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Yorokobibill__k, if you set the schema to a transparent one, click the Save button, then click Settings -> Save as default, then yes12:11
bill__kYorokobi: looks like it's working.  thanks for the help!12:12
Yorokobinp bill__k12:12
Lewixhow do i update it to a newer version12:13
Lewixamsn12:13
tulio__how do I add the multiverso to adept package manager?12:13
tulio__*multiverse12:13
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leiar_ I need help to add audio to a video with ffmepg, if possible12:13
Chemicalvamphmmm just finished installing eclipse, now when i start it, i get the busy mouse icon and nothing12:14
dwidmanntulio__: in adept, go to manage repositories, find the line that looks like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy main" or similar, and put multiverse on the end of the line after main, simple as that12:14
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dwidmannif you have the update, security, and/or backports repositories enabled, you'll need to add it to those too12:14
Yorokobitulio__, may as well add universe while you're at it12:14
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Lewixdwidmann, how do i update it12:15
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tulio__there is only br.archive.ubuntu12:15
tulio__is there any difference?!12:15
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dwidmannHmm, that would be trickier lewix12:15
dwidmanntulio__: that's just what mirror you're using, no problem therer12:15
Yorokobitulio__, it should look like deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted universe multiverse12:16
ragnorkanyone knows how to install the Kernel Headers?12:16
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Lewixdwidmann, alrigth how do I install the newer version and get rid of what i just installed12:16
boblenythanks dwidmann, I found it, I will see how this works...12:16
dwidmannLewix: well, first, just sudo apt-get remove amsn to remove what you just installed.12:16
Chemicalvampanybody know why eclipse isnt running?12:16
bill__kYorokobi: is it normal that konsole transparenc only shows the background under it, and not other windows12:16
dwidmannTo get the newer you'll either have to pull the one from the feisty repos along with all dependencies, or compile from source. Pick your poison, neither way is particularly fun.12:16
YorokobiChemicalvamp, do you get any output when you try running it from a shell (konsole) ?12:16
Yorokobibill__k, yes.12:17
bill__kok12:17
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dwidmannChemicalvamp: run it in konsole and tell us what errors you're getting12:17
Chemicalvampi see12:17
Yorokobibill__k, you need the konsole-alpha package from the beryl/trevino repo and beryl working to get full transparency12:17
ragnorkAnyone knows where to get/how to install Linux Kernel headers for kubuntu?12:17
boblenyYeah, this is better it isn't eating my ram so fast!12:17
boblenythanks, bye12:17
Lewixdwidmann, thanks its done. now?12:18
bill__kYorokobi: maybe later.  I'm guessing that will create a whole new set of problems as I have 2 screens and am using ati's bigdesktop12:18
tulio__no difference12:18
dwidmannbobleny, should be sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname-r`12:18
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Yorokobiragnork, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic (for the generic kernel package)12:18
Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13437/ so whats my corse of action here?12:18
Yorokobibill__k, true enough :)12:18
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Chemicalvampsudo apt-get install java?12:19
YorokobiChemicalvamp, yes, install the java jdk12:19
Yorokobisun-java-jdk????12:19
dwidmannlewix: which part? The removing of the old is done, but I'm supposing you haven't installed a newer version yet12:19
Chemicalvampi got jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin sitting here on my desktop12:19
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Chemicalvampim new.. i THINK i know how to install it, but im not sure12:20
SanneChemicalvamp: java ist in the ubuntu repositories, better install software from there if it's available.12:20
dwidmannChemicalvamp: pull up konsole, chmod +x jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin12:21
dwidmannthen run it with ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin12:21
Lewixdwidmann, the old is removed ..now I want to install the newer ersion12:21
YorokobiChemicalvamp, you may have to run it as root (sudo ./jre...12:22
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dwidmannYorokobi: it extracts in the same directory, so running it as root shouldn't be necessary12:22
Chemicalvampsudo chmod +x jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin -->  chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.b': No such file or directory12:23
ragnorkWhat is GCC?12:23
dwidmannlewix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+package/amsn here is where you can find the latest12:23
Yorokobidwidmann, running as root allows a global install instead of a user-specific install IIRC12:23
dwidmannragnork: gnu compiler collection12:23
Sanneragnork: gnu c compiler12:23
ragnorkkk thanks12:23
Lewixdwidmann, edgy12:23
Sannedwidmann: ah12:23
dwidmannlewix, there won't be any other upgrades for edgy, so if you want something newer you'll have to pull from feisty or compile from source12:24
Lewixdwidmann, how do I do that please and is it going to work properly12:24
Yorokobilewix, alternatively, you can use other chat clients that support the MSN messenger transport (Gaim, Kopete, Psi)12:24
Chemicalvampsudo chmod +x ~/desktop/jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin didnt work either....12:25
LewixYorokobi, im looking for the best one12:25
LewixYorokobi, similar to msn12:25
ragnorkUmm. a last one, how to see the content of a dir from the Konsole?12:25
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Yorokobiheh, best and similar are not always the same :)12:25
Chemicalvampls isnt it?12:25
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Yorokobiragnork, ls12:25
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Moby_DickGood afternoon12:26
dwidmannlewix: well, after you've downloaded the *.deb, right click it, and go to kubuntu package menu -> install12:26
SanneChemicalvamp: so, again, you could just enable multiverse and install sun-java5-jre from adept/synaptic/apt.12:27
dwidmannif it fails, then you're going to have to start downloading some of its dependencies from the feisty branch also, which will likely be a bit tedious, but should work12:27
Lewixhow do I do that from the cmd dwidmann  and thank you. aligato12:27
YorokobiSanne, unless Chemicalvamp wants to use the 64bit Java libraries12:27
dwidmannfrom cmd? dpkg --install thefilename.deb12:27
Chemicalvampyes i need 64 bit12:27
dwidmann64-bit ftw!12:27
Chemicalvamp32-bit FTL12:28
SanneChemicalvamp, Yorokobi: sun java is avaliable for 64 bit. The mozilla plugin may be not, though.12:28
YorokobiChemicalvamp, are you going to have Java access more than 4 GB of memory? That's about the only reason I've seen anyone use 64bit java12:29
dwidmannSanne: the plugin isn't.12:29
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Sannedwidmann: yeah, as I said ;). But for eclipse I guess it isn't needed.12:29
Moby_Dickdoes anybody here know good cd burning software for kde?12:29
SanneMoby_Dick: k3b12:29
YorokobiMoby_Dick, k3b12:30
Chemicalvampi dont know, i run an amd64 notebook, a bug fix for eclipse said to use 64 bit.. i guess12:30
dwidmannYorokobi: unless you need to use closed source legacy applications that haven't been ported to amd64, I can see no viable reason why you would want to take a performance hit (i386 doesn't win in any category except memory consumption)12:30
Moby_Dickk3b seems to ruin a lot of cds12:30
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Chemicalvampi just want it to work! lol12:30
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dwidmannk3b is the best one out. If you're having trouble with it, then upgrade to k3b 1.012:30
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dwidmannDefinitely make sure to get dvd+rwtools version 7.0 also12:31
YorokobiMoby_Dick, you could try cdrecord but k3b is better IMHO12:31
SanneChemicalvamp: well, I don't use eclipse, but I have sun java installed from the repositories, and I'm also on amd64, to run some java software. You can try, I guess.12:31
tarelerulzHow do you unrar stuff ?12:31
dwidmannYorokobi: k3b is a frontend to cdrecord ...12:31
Yorokobitarelerulz, install the unrar package and use either ark or 'unrar ??.rar'12:31
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Yorokobidwidmann, haha, I did not know that.12:32
Aldatarelerulz if you have ark just click the .rar12:32
tarelerulzI use the free unrar and all ,but it don't ahve it in ark12:32
Moby_Dickokay k3b 1.0, mine  is 0.12, and it does not upgrade with the apt-get update12:32
Sesshoumarumy hdd won't mount.. HELP12:33
dwidmannYorokobi: it can also use cdrdao, I think it uses cdrdao by default though now that I think about it12:33
Lewixdwidmann, so how do i do that from the command line? apt-get install *.deb?12:33
Mantishello all....I'm new and I have a question about boot loaders12:33
tulio__does anyone know why my kaffeine play avi files but there no image or sound appearing?12:33
dwidmannMoby_Dick: yeah ... easiest way is probably to fetch from source, unless you're in the mood to upgrade to feisty :P12:33
tarelerulzKaffieine does that to me too tulio12:33
dwidmanntulio__: avi is just a container format. It's all dependant on what video and audio codecs are used, and if you have support for those12:34
Sesshoumarutry vlc player12:34
tarelerulzvlc don't seem to do menus12:34
dwidmannI can play virtually anything in kaffeine. Especially with the kmplayer backend, hehehe12:34
Chemicalvampsudo chmod +x /home/bott/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin worked12:34
tulio__dwidmann: i think a have installed all the packages necessary for playing that12:34
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Sesshoumaru? menus12:34
MantisWhen I installed Kubuntu the bootloader automatically boots into linux after a few seconds, is there an easy way to change this?  I'd kinda like it to go to windows until I'm more comfortable with linux12:34
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Sesshoumarui play alot of different formats on it12:35
tulio__tarelerulz: does vlc play on your pc?12:35
dwidmanntulio__: wouldn't happen to know what video and audio codecs that particular avi uses would you?12:35
YorokobiMantis, grub should give you a menu if it detected a Windows install12:35
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gravespkDwidmann: Ok, OS installed... system boots fine.... how can I check the status of the disks?12:35
Lewixhmm and how do I delette a folder from the cmd line again?12:35
tarelerulzYes it vlc plays on my pc .12:35
tulio__dwidmann: dont know12:35
tarelerulzI read iso file for jap movie and it don't read the menu12:35
tulio__ill try vlc12:36
Lewixand how to I go back from a directory12:36
tarelerulzIt does see iso file which is hot for movies12:36
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dwidmanngravespk: I think it's mdadm-monitor or something, I'd have to look it up. I don't really have much use for RAID myself (I do have a nice lvm setup though)12:36
MantisI did get a menu, I didn't see anything about which OS it would boot into though12:36
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YorokobiMantis, usually, the last one in the list is Windows12:36
Yorokobi!grub | Mantis12:36
ubotuMantis: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:36
MantisAll right, I'll look arround a bit12:37
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Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13437/ AGAIN12:37
dwidmanngravespk: also, you can look at /proc/mdstat12:37
Mantisthanks, I'll pop back in if I can't figure it out12:37
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SanneMantis: you can edit the default os grubboots into in /boot/grub/menu.lst (make a backup first)12:37
dwidmanngraves: http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-6.html12:38
dwidmannTells you a way to test via software too12:38
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SanneMantis: if you want, I can help you do that.12:38
Sesshoumaruwow.. i didn't know that vlc could play iso12:39
dwidmannLewix: dpkg --install to install, "cd .." to go up a directory12:39
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Lewixdwidmann, thanks12:39
LewixI was doind cd..12:39
Lewixit's stupid^^ (the space)12:39
tarelerulzdoes vlc have problem read smbmount ?12:40
MantisSanne:  thanks for the offer, If I run into any trouble, I'll get back with you12:40
Moby_Dicknow when I upgrade k3b ... should I uninstall the one that comes with edgy12:40
SanneMantis: ok, good luck :)12:40
Chemicalvampwhy must i run something 2 time before it actually loads?12:40
dwidmannMoby_Dick: I would, b ut you don't really need to12:40
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Chemicalvamphad to run adept 3 times before it loaded that tome12:41
Moby_Dickwhat about the back end, cdrecord and cdrao?12:41
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Moby_Dickshould those be upgraded automatically?12:42
Lewixdwidmann, and once it's done?12:42
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SanneChemicalvamp: sometimes apps that you run as admin, like adept or synaptic, fail to start the first time. It has to do with kdesu confusing itself. It's a known bug, as far as I understood, and hopefully worked on.12:43
Chemicalvampok glad its not just me...12:43
Sesshoumarucan someone help me with nvidia12:43
SanneChemicalvamp: yup, it's not you :)12:43
tarelerulzI have had all sorts of problem with kubuntu when I installed it12:43
Chemicalvampone more: from time to time when i type, it spontaniously pastes is that everybody too?12:44
YorokobiChemicalvamp, are you hitting Shift-Insert or Ctrl-V on accident?12:44
Chemicalvampnope12:44
Sesshoumarucome on theres like 362 people in here..12:45
tarelerulzI had ark go out on me the first time  installed kubuntu12:45
SanneChemicalvamp: no, not here. That may be you, after all ;)12:45
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Chemicalvampnooo12:45
YorokobiSesshoumaru, can you be more specific than "help [you]  with nvidia"?12:45
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dwidmannLewix: well, try to run amsn, supposing it installed okay?12:45
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Sesshoumarumy resolution settings never saves12:45
Sesshoumaruit resets when i restart12:46
Munro_I see I'm not the only one with GFX problems12:46
dwidmannSesshoumaru: run  "sudo nvidia-settings"12:46
Lewixdwidmann, loool...thanks it was stupid of me12:46
YorokobiSesshoumaru, can you paste you xorg.conf to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so we can look at it?12:46
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Chemicalvamp!ati12:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:46
Chemicalvampi had that issue too12:47
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Moby_DickIs t worth upgrading to 7.04?12:47
Sesshoumaruhold on firefox is acting retarded12:47
Munro_I have 28k dial up. How the world can I get my drivers???12:47
dwidmannMoby_Dick: I t hink it is, it would all depend on your reaons for wanting to do so, and how much bandwidth you have (seeing as it is a rather large download)12:48
tulio__it is still not playing avi images12:48
tulio__does anyone knows why?12:48
dwidmannMoby_Dick:  here's how - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade12:48
Moby_DickI was looking at that.12:48
Yorokobitulio__, you may need to get the w32codecs from the seveas repositories12:48
tulio__seveas?12:48
tarelerulzget mplayer tulio that works great12:48
dwidmann!seveas | tulio__12:48
tulio__i have it from another repo12:48
ubotutulio__: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:49
Sesshoumaruwhich syntax?12:49
Moby_DickBut so far 6.10 is going well for me, just the cd burning  software12:49
YorokobiMoby_Dick, I've had the upgrade work both times but it was a serious pain on my server/workstation (a breeze on my laptop)12:49
tulio__tarelerulz: im using vlc12:49
tarelerulzreally I don't know what to say It just worked for me,but I have not try avi yet12:49
tarelerulzI have been use for move iso12:49
gravespkARGH... this whole linux raid idea is starting to become more trouble than its worth12:50
dwidmannAVI is just a container. It is a completely open format. The problems people run into are with copyrighted vidoe and audio codecs12:50
dwidmanngravespk: what's up now?12:50
tulio__audio is fine, but the video sometimes appear and sometimes it dont12:51
tulio__can it be because of xgl?12:51
tarelerulzthat is why  I use mplayer it read wma,wmv , avi ogg and couple I can't remember12:51
Yorokobitulio__, quite possibly12:51
YorokobiI've had problems with xine in Xgl12:52
dwidmanntulio__: not likely at all12:52
dwidmannwell, maybe, try switching its video out driver ...12:52
gravespkWell I ran cat /proc/mdstat (per instructions on a linux md raid setup guide) to see the status of my RAID.... 1)It's confusing, completely unuserfriendly (I saw the status of my raid but have NO CLUE what any of it meant).... beyond that.... in their example both parts of the raid (the source & mirror partitions) were listed.... in mine its only listing one, making me think that maybe my raid isnt working12:52
tulio__dwidmann: how?12:52
dwidmannsettings -> configure xine engine12:52
dwidmannvideo tab12:53
Sesshoumaruok. i paste the xorg.conf12:53
tulio__there is only GL Desktop in the Settings option12:53
dwidmannxv is best, but if it's not working try other things12:53
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what's the URL (or number at the end)12:53
Moby_DickWhich is easier on the resources gnome or kde12:53
dwidmanntulio__: I mean in kaffeine12:53
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dwidmannMoby_Dick: they're about the same really12:53
Sesshoumaruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13447/12:53
tarelerulzmplayer is fun like that swith  video out and sound out12:54
Moby_DickI can't really tell the difference, I guess gnome doesn't have a "start" menu12:54
tulio__dwidmann: ok12:54
tulio__sorry12:54
YorokobiSesshoumaru, wow, that's as bare-boned a config as you can get :) ... one sec12:55
YorokobiMoby_Dick, Gnome's "start" menu is the Applications menu12:55
dwidmannOption         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" <--- this line looks like it was one added by nvidia-settings, right?12:55
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mervteckcan anyone tell me how to repartition the unused space on my drive?12:57
dwidmannmervteck: well, you can use something like fdisk, parted, or qtparted12:57
mervteckin running Kubuntu Edgy12:57
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dwidmannmervteck: preferably from a live cd if you're using the disk in any way12:57
mervteckso... boot from live cd then repartition it?12:58
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dwidmannyeah12:58
mervteckk brb gonna boot on live cd12:58
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calamarihi01:00
tarelerulzGod I love VLC when it works right. I am watching jap movie with english subtitles01:00
calamarican I set my desktop as my home directory?  I created a symliunk but I don't see to have any icons on the desktop yet01:00
HymnToLifetarelerulz, same here but I don't use it cause I don't like when it does _not_ work right :p01:01
Tm_Tcalamari: no you can,t and you never wan't01:01
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HymnToLifecalamari, you don't want to do that01:01
tarelerulzThat is lame ,but I am donig good so far01:01
calamariHymnToLife: yes, I do01:01
tarelerulzIf mplayer would read iso I would be use it01:02
Tm_Tcalamari: if you manage to do that some way, you end up to have, well, pile of poopoo01:02
calamarithat's how I had it in gnome, and it was great01:02
Tm_TIF I understood what you mean01:02
calamarierr.. maybe I said it backwards01:02
calamariI'd like my home directory to be my desktop01:03
calamariso that when I put stuff in the home dir it shows up on the desktop01:03
Tm_Tuff01:03
gravespkis SATA hot-swappable?01:03
Yorokobicalamari, not a good idea01:03
HymnToLifegravespk, in theory, yes01:03
calamariYorokobi: why not?01:03
dwidmannmake /home/blah/desktop a symlink to /home/blah, then pull up konsole, "killall kdesktop && kdesktop"01:03
gravespkSo, "IN THEORY" what happens if I unplug one of my hard drives?01:04
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calamarithanks.. just need to do the killall then01:04
HymnToLifedunno, I never dared to try :p01:04
Tm_Tcalamari: no, don't do killall01:04
Tm_Tcalamari: there's cleaner way, I'm sure01:04
dwidmanngravespk: in theory it would work, but I'd be damned if I'd want to try it and find out01:04
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HymnToLifeyep01:04
HymnToLifelogout and log back in01:04
calamarican someone who is telling me not to do this, please kindly tell me WHY?01:04
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calamari:)01:05
HymnToLifebecause usually, you put lots of stuff in your home01:05
calamariahh, so the clutter issue01:05
HymnToLifeso if all that appears on the desktop, it will be insanely full01:05
calamariit's fine as long as it hides dot files01:05
YorokobiIf you set you Desktop to the home its fine. If you try to set your home to Desktop (yes, semantically different) then you could have problems.01:05
gravespkGod I hope a terrorist never kidnaps my girlfriend and threatens to kill her if I don't build them a working Linux Raid............. My girlfriend would be sooo dead01:05
Tm_Tcalamari: "dcop kdesktop MainApplication-Interface quit" should shut it down clean01:05
calamarithanks01:06
HymnToLifeRAid is overrated01:06
calamaribrb01:06
Yorokobigravespk, are you using software RAID or hardware?01:06
gravespk*Trying* to use software.... I bought a motherboard with onboard RAID..... little did I know that it requires Windows to function01:06
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Chemicalvampyay adept has been installing for like an hour now.. still 28%01:07
Yorokobigravespk, yeah. My MB has that option, I chose to go without RAID01:07
Jisaogravespk, you're screwed when you have that type of raid and the mobo dies.  Often the hardware is then obsolete.01:07
dwidmanngravespk: you can get the motherboards sort to function still, sort of, in reality it's just an eased interface to software raid01:07
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gravespkWait a second01:08
YorokobiRAID with Linux works great, so long as you're using a hardware controller (ie, Adaptec)01:08
dwidmannjisao, but he's using pure software with mdadm ...01:08
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Moby_Dickwith the k3b which is a newer version.  ubuntu 0.12.17 or the k3b 1.0 ?01:08
SesshoumaruYorokobi did you find anything wrong with the cfg?01:08
gravespkis there a way in linux to make 2 folders continually mirrored... i.e. if I have a folder such as /home/pgraves/Stuff ..... does linux have a function to monitor changes to that folder and mirror it at another location (i.e. /home/pgraves/stuff2)01:08
dwidmannMoby_Dick: 1.0 is hot off the press, only about a week old :)01:09
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HymnToLifeMoby_Dick, as far as I know, 1.0 > 0.12 :p01:09
YorokobiSesshoumaru, :) I was waiting for you to answer dwidmann's question about the "metamodes" entry01:09
Sesshoumarui didn't see it :(01:09
dwidmannOption         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" <--- this line looks like it was one added by nvidia-settings, right?01:10
vvvhow do i get kubuntu to auto start beryl everytime i log in.. i folllowed the instructions on beryl's website but it doesn't seem to work01:10
YorokobiSesshoumaru, I have two suggestions. Try it with the metamodes entry commented out. If that fails, try it with the DPMS entry commented out, then try it with both commented out.01:10
YorokobiI guess that's three suggestions01:11
vvvi don't see to have the beryl manager? should i install that? the script i used said it should auto launch01:11
vvvbut it doesn't even seem to be installed01:11
Sesshoumarui also have nv disabled in linux-restricted-modules-common..01:11
Yorokobivvv, yes, install beryl-manager01:11
dwidmannthe metamodes entry *should* force the resolution that is listed first, at least it gets the WorksForMe stamp of approval01:11
JisaoKubuntu crashed on me now and then.  What is the best way to discover what is really going on?01:11
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you're using the nvidia driver so nv shouldn't be used.01:12
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Sesshoumaru>.<   i have no idea what your talking about01:12
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Moby_DickHas anybody here install k3b 1.0 on edgy?01:12
Sesshoumaruyeah i thought so01:12
vvvok yorokobi i'll try and come back if it doesn't help. .thanks for the confirmation though. just wasnt' sure what to do01:12
Chemicalvamphow do i killall adept?01:12
YorokobiChemicalvamp, sudo killall adept_manager01:13
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dwidmannJisao: I'd check the logs in /var/log, particularly dmesg01:13
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Sesshoumaruso i should have only one resolution in the cfg like 1440 x 900 ?01:14
Jisaook01:14
YorokobiSesshoumaru, the resolutions should go from the highest supported to the lowest supported01:14
dwidmannSesshoumaru: I'm betting it was written in by nvidia-settings, and you're saying it's not taking that resolution right (that's the one you want, correct?)01:14
Sesshoumaruumm.. sure01:15
Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13453/ please, what do i have to kill to upgrade to 7.04?01:15
mervteckhey dwid i was in qtpartition or somthing like that in live cd and it would only let me reformat the whole chunk not jsut make the one smaller01:15
dwidmannSesshoumaru: so what resolution are you running at right now?01:15
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Sesshoumaru1440 x 900 but i have to set this every time i start the computer01:15
sketchb0xkubuntu is going to take over the world01:16
YorokobiChemicalvamp, 'ps wax | grep adept' then sudo kill -9 <pid>01:16
sketchb0xwatch01:16
Sesshoumaruit starts in 1240 or whatever01:16
dwidmannmervteck: what's your current partition setup? (You can get a pretty nice printout by running the command sudo "parted /dev/<device> print" substituting the device name of course01:16
N6REJanyone know how to remove a program from wine?01:16
Sesshoumarui have ubuntu .. theres no real difference right?01:16
Sesshoumarufrom kubuntu01:17
compilerwriterI am about to compile ktorrent from source.  I have torrents running.  I should be able to stop them compile the latest version and then have it pick up where I left off should I not?01:17
YorokobiSesshoumaru, only the X window manager (Gnome v KDE)01:17
dwidmannSesshoumaru: I have an idea01:17
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dwidmannSesshoumaru: on the line   Modes      "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"01:18
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vvvcould anyone link me to a how to install mplayer guide a current one01:18
vvvi'm a linux newb and i don't know about compilers and everything01:18
dwidmannremove 1600x1200 and 1280x1024, and add 1440x900 in their place01:18
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Jisaoany clue in particular I am looking for, dwidmann ?01:18
calamaridesktop is good now, thanks :)01:19
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dwidmannvvv: first, download the source, then run this command: "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer", you have to have the deb-src repositories enabled though01:19
mervtecki dont rember the name of the hd i got>.<01:19
dwidmannafter t hat, extract the source, run "./configure && make && sudo make install"01:19
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dwidmannmervteck: probably hda or sda01:20
vvvi see ty thats the command i was missing01:20
Sesshoumaru        Modes      "1440x900" "1440x900" "1440x900" "800x600" "640x480"01:20
Sesshoumaru800x600 640x80 too?01:20
Chemicalvampyorokobi: still didnt work01:20
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you only need one entry for each resolution01:20
gravespkDoes Ubuntu have a function for continually mirroring folders? (I.e. ensuring that any changes made to /home/pgraves/stuff1 is also made to /home/pgraves/stuff2)01:20
dwidmannSesshoumaru: no no no, you only need one entry of 1440x90001:20
Yorokobi!adept | Chemicalvamp01:20
ubotuChemicalvamp: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:20
vvvwill that install the plugins to media player as well dwidmann01:20
Sesshoumaruok i'll try it01:20
just-this-timef-spot is a gnome prog howto use it from kde to export to picasaweb.google.com01:20
vvvcause i can install it. but i can't install the codec to make it work01:21
Yorokobiargh, that didn't have all the info I was looking for ...01:21
dwidmannSesshoumaru:  something lke "Modes      "1440x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480""01:21
Sesshoumaruwhat about metamode01:21
Sesshoumaru    Option         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"01:21
dwidmannSesshoumaru: leave metamode alone, it looks okay01:21
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mervteckDisk /dev/hdb: 160GB01:22
Yorokobi!adept_manager > Yorokobi01:22
mervteckSector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B01:22
mervteckPartition Table: msdos01:22
mervteckNumber  Start   End    Size    Type      File system  Flags01:22
mervteck 1      32.3kB  154GB  154GB   primary   ext3         boot01:22
mervteck 2      154GB   160GB  6169MB  extended01:22
dwidmannvvv: no, you'd need to download the w32codecs seperately and put them in /usr/lib/win3201:22
mervteck 5      154GB   160GB  6169MB  logical   linux-swap01:22
mervtecksorry for the spam >.<01:22
dwidmannI've gotta go, I'll be back later01:22
Sesshoumaruok.. i'm restarting. if x doesn't start ,, i'm suing you!  lol :P01:22
vvvwhen i try and put it into the directory it says i dont' have premission01:22
gravespkANYONE?01:23
gravespksee ya Dwidmann01:23
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vvvcya dwid and thanks01:23
Yorokobigravespk, you could make one a symlink to the other01:23
hyumahello guys01:23
hyumadoes anyone knows if there is a fix fo kopete bug with DCC request?01:24
hyumaserver irc.darksin.net01:24
Moby_DickQt4 seems to be in ubuntu, but it says my version isn't new enough?  Has anybody here had to manually install Qt4?01:24
mervteckcan anyone help me get my repartition to work?01:24
vvvi have a windows parition on my computer... but kubuntu won't let me mount it.. ubuntu let's me mount my other harddrives without a problem01:25
vvvhow do i fix this issue?01:25
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dugi have been looking into my issue for awhile, and theres many people saying to fix it many ways. I was using 6.06 kubuntu live cd, liked it so I got edgy and installed it. My wireless card worked fine with 6.06 but with edgy I cant get it to work. It sees networks but wont connect to them, even open networks.01:27
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ubuntuhello i have a problem01:27
ubuntuWHo can help me please01:27
Yorokobiubuntu, depends on what your problem is01:28
Yorokobidug, what wifi chipset is your wifi card?01:28
ubuntui am on kubuntu trying to listen to an online radiostream01:28
Yorokobithat was redundant :)01:28
ubuntubut i hear no audio01:28
vvvdoes anyone know what i have to install to be able to mount harddrives?01:28
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Yorokobiubuntu, what's the URL for the radio station?01:29
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Moby_Dickdug, what are you using to "see" networks01:29
ubuntuYorokobi: its one of the coolstreams in amarok01:29
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dugtried wireless assistant and kwlan whats the cmd again to show what my chipset is again01:30
ubuntui cant hear mp3 only ogg01:30
dugi think its along the line of lipsc01:30
SesshoumaruYorokobi: its still in 1024x76801:30
Moby_Dickdug, with both of my wireless cards, the gui assistant wouldn't work so I would have to type sudo iwconfig eth0 essid 'linksys'01:30
Moby_Dickor whatever the name of the network you want is.01:30
dugso it would be ath001:30
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Moby_Dickdug, your using an atheros card?01:31
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YorokobiSesshoumaru, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say ?01:31
dugyes01:31
Chemicalvamptrying to fix dependancies.... got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13458/ in konsole and i dont know how to get past it please01:31
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dugi cant remember the cmd to show what it is01:31
hyumawhat's the better IRC client for kubuntu?01:31
Moby_Dickdug, I have one of those and I had to install mad wifi to get it to work.01:31
ubuntui am a major n00b01:31
ubuntuthat scares me all01:31
dugyea i came across them and was wondering if it would work01:32
YorokobiChemicalvamp, tab :)01:32
Yorokobithen enter01:32
duggreat i have the install page01:32
Moby_Dickdug, and when I upgraded my kernal I had to reinstall mad wifi01:32
Chemicalvamptyvm again01:32
Moby_Dickdug, do both of the lights flash on your network card?01:32
dugok thanks moby i just wanted to be sure it worked so i wouldnt be trying out 100s of different ways01:32
dugyes they are flashing01:32
ubuntucan i get hacked on linux?01:32
Moby_Dickboth of them?01:32
dugyes they go back and forth01:32
jhutchinshyuma: I like konversation, kopete will do IRC, and xchat is available as well.  I think those are the most popular.01:32
dugit sees networks and what not but wont get on them01:33
compilerwriterWould someone be kind enough to take me by the hand on a compile of ktorrent.  I think I might be messing something up.01:33
Yorokobiubuntu, which version of amarok are you using ?01:33
hyumajhutchins:  thanks, but konversation is bugged with dcc chat01:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi i see nothing about nvidia errors..01:33
Moby_Dicktry typing from a terminal, sudo ath0 essid 'networkname'01:33
hyumaI've noticed problem with fserve triggers01:33
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Moby_Dickthen; sudo dhclient ath001:33
vit_hey men01:33
YorokobiSesshoumaru, paste them to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please01:33
vit_i have a problem01:33
ubuntuall i want is to hear audio from amarok why is it so hard Chemicalvamp you totally confused me instead of helped me01:34
Moby_Dickbecause when both my lights flash, my card is working.01:34
jhutchinscompilerwriter: If you're having trouble compiling it might be best to stick to .deb packages for a while.01:34
ubuntui am in panic niw01:34
ubuntunow01:34
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Moby_DickBut mad wifi did get it to work.01:34
hyumamaybe xchat is better for dcc'ing01:34
ubuntuamarok 1.4.301:34
Yorokobidug, do you have the linux-kerner-restricted-? package installed?01:34
Yorokobiubuntu, do you also have amarok-xine installed?01:35
dugsudo ath0 essid linux01:35
dugPassword:01:35
dugsudo: ath0: command not found01:35
duggot that error01:35
hyumajhutchins: do you use beryl?01:35
Moby_DickI'm sorry, iwconfig01:35
Moby_DickI'm sorry, iwconfig ath0 essid linux01:35
ubuntui dont know what that means even Yorokobi01:35
SesshoumaruYorokobi how do i copy all with nano01:35
Sesshoumarui can't highlight it all with my nouse01:35
jhutchinshyuma: No.  I have an old video card that does what I need, but probably would just be frustrating with beryl.01:35
hyumaI've old video card too01:36
YorokobiSesshoumaru, I dunno. I rarely use nano. Try highlighting it with the mouse then copy&paste01:36
dugiwconfig ath0 essid linux01:36
dugError for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :01:36
dug    SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not permitted.01:36
hyumamine is geforce 2 gts with 32MB RAM01:36
Sesshoumarunevermind i'll use a defferent editor01:36
Yorokobioh01:36
hyumabut beryl is crazy01:36
hyumaand works well01:36
Yorokobiubuntu, in konsole, type 'sudo apt-get install amarok-xine'01:36
dugits enabled01:37
dugive tried about everything but ill give madwifi a shot01:37
Moby_Dicksudo dhclient ath001:37
dugk01:37
vvvis thier away to mount  ntfs harddrives in kubuntu? like you can in ubuntu01:37
jhutchinshyuma: Actually, for a great many people beryl does not work at all.01:37
hyumaah really?01:37
ubuntuit says amarok0-xine is already the latest Yorokobi01:37
jhutchinshyuma: I don't think it's even ready for a beta release yet, but it's out there.01:38
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jhutchins!ntfs | vvv01:38
ubotuvvv: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:38
dugits trying to discover01:38
compilerwriterjhutchins:  I am not sure if I have a problem or not.  I would just like someone to walk me through it.  The directions on ktorrent.org look simple enough.  I just need a bit of advice on some configure output.01:38
vvvty01:38
Chemicalvampgksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf command for kubuntu please?01:38
vvvty ubotu01:38
Sesshoumaruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13461/01:38
YorokobiChemicalvamp, subst gedit with kate01:38
ubuntuYorokobi:  so why am i not hearing sound?01:38
Moby_Dickdid you get the network name correct?01:38
dugyes01:39
hyumajhutchins: test the aalib with xine01:39
Yorokobiubuntu, I dunno ... there may be another package that is required01:39
eilker!eudora01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eudora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:39
hyumajhutchins: and open an avi file01:39
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jhutchinscompilerwriter: Standard advice for this channel is that working within the package manager is the best way to avoid problems.  Compiling your own software should be done by people who understand what they're doing, and why.  Other than the following:01:39
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jhutchins!build | compilerwriter01:39
ubotucompilerwriter: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:39
jhutchins!packages01:39
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!01:39
ubuntuif windows sucks so much and linux  is supposed to be so good why isnt it working such a simple thing as hearing sound01:39
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Yorokobiubuntu, I've never had a problem with Amarok and MP3s01:40
hyumadoes the ntfsck is ready for linux?01:40
ubuntuthats what they all say01:40
jhutchinsubuntu: Because of updated soundcard chipsets and volunteers developing new drivers for alsa in the kernel.01:40
ubuntui cant hear the music01:40
ubuntuwho can help me :(01:40
vvvkubuntu doesn't even pick up my 5.101:40
vvvonly 2.1 in kubuntu and ubuntu01:40
jhutchinshyuma: Have you followed this?01:41
jhutchins!audio | ubuntu01:41
ubotuubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:41
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jhutchinsvvv: Your sound card manufacturer has not provided the specs so that someone could write a 5.1 driver.01:41
ubuntuwhy is this so hard to do01:41
jhutchinsvvv: You may find some help in the troublshooting file above though.01:42
hyumawhat's jhutchins ?01:42
ubuntuwindows has trojans but at least stuff just works01:42
Yorokobiubuntu, 'sudo apt-get install libxine1'01:42
SesshoumaruYorokobi did you get the link?01:42
Minatakuubuntu: Windows' tendency to "just work" is typically why things are so hard in Linux01:42
jhutchinsubuntu: That's because you pay people to write the drivers.01:42
hitmanWillyubuntu: at least until vista came along01:43
YorokobiSesshoumaru, sorry, I missed it ... one sec01:43
jhutchinsWhen things don't work in Linux, I can fix them.  In windows, I have to wait for someone to fix them for me.01:43
Minatakujhutchins: If that ever happens01:43
jhutchinsMinataku: Right.01:43
ubuntulibxine1 is already installed Yorokobi01:43
MinatakuAnd asking if you can fix them yourself gets you "No, this is our intellectual property blah blah trade secrets blah proprietary"01:43
MinatakuIt's all money poisoning01:43
jhutchinsMinataku: Sometimes the "we know what's best for you" fix is worse than the problem.01:44
MinatakuForget cyanide, forget ricin, money is the strongest poison known to man01:44
Yorokobiubuntu, what audio chipset do you have?01:44
MinatakuIt's effects also reach far beyond just humans01:44
ubuntucreative live 5.1101:44
vvvdo i need to have wine installed to install mplayer codec?01:44
ubuntu5.101:44
YorokobiSesshoumaru, I see /dev/wacom errors, not nvidia errors01:44
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jhutchinsvvv: No.01:44
MinatakuMoney poisoning can damage anything, biological or synthetic, living or dead01:44
vvvhow do i get premission to add files into usr  folder?01:44
jhutchins!mp3 | vvv01:45
ubotuvvv: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:45
jhutchinsvvv: Start with the first one, that should get you going.01:45
vvvty01:45
Yorokobiubuntu, you may benefit from !mp3 as well01:45
jhutchinsubuntu: Do you know what kernel you have?01:45
SesshoumaruYorokobi.. maybe i should manualy edit the cfgs.. cause there back to the original01:46
ubuntu2.601:46
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jhutchinsubuntu: which 2.6?01:46
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ubuntukernel01:46
Minataku...01:46
Jarn!lua01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lua - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
JarnAnyone know a program that can be used to edit lua files?01:46
ubuntu!mp301:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:46
jhutchinsubuntu: uname -r in a console.01:46
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YorokobiSesshoumaru, I had to get rid of the stylus and other entries in my xorg.conf when I nuked all the wacom Device entries01:46
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hyumajhutchins:  can you help me please how to write in NTFS HDD ?01:47
ubuntuwhat does a kernel have to do with the mp3 being unhearable?01:47
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jhutchins!ntfs-3g | hyuma01:47
ubotuhyuma: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)01:47
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ubuntunow i realize how good windows is01:47
mrandI'm looking for a (k)ubuntu package equivalent to lxdvdrip01:48
Minatakuubuntu: Perhaps your mixer settings have the volume turned down?01:48
jhutchinsubuntu: The alsa drivers which handle sound cards are part of the kernel.  There is an update in the pipeline that fixes a number of problems.01:48
mranddoes anyone know of one?01:48
soulriderhi everyone01:48
ubuntuMinataku:  i check all that already01:48
vvvjhutchins which media player allows me to run my movie as my desktop? or is that another program all together?01:48
jhutchins!dvd | mrand01:48
ubotumrand: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:48
Minatakuubuntu: Saying that over and over doesn't make anyone want to help you01:48
soulridermrand: how about k9copy ?01:48
mrandjhutchins: thanks01:48
jhutchinsSorry guys, I gotta go.  Later.01:48
soulriderubuntu is a bot guys, dont talk to him!01:48
voorhees86what is te best msn software?01:48
vvvlater and thanks again jhut01:48
Minatakusoulrider: That's ubotu01:48
ubuntuthis is the reason why windows will always remain dominant linux isnt helping its forcing people to use windows because they dont want to spend so much time to get simple things to work01:49
hyumathank you ubotu and jhutchins01:49
hyuma:))01:49
dwidmanndefine simple01:49
Moby_Dickmrdlouisd, when my network card works, both lights flash at the same time01:49
Minatakuubuntu: No, when people refuse to listen to suggestions or recieve help, that's where the problem arises01:50
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Minatakuubuntu: Either knock it off and calm down, or just go away01:50
ubuntuyou guys are supposed to be so smart and 1337 adn all yet cant help me to hear audio01:50
Moby_Dickmrdlouisd, and I used mad wifi then it work01:50
Aloneaubuntu: you have checked your mixer right?01:50
ubuntuyes01:50
MinatakuAnd insulting us is hardly going to get you anywhere01:50
dwidmann!attitude | ubuntu01:50
ubotuubuntu: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:50
hyumaubotu: I've problem with NTFS HDD and I can't read it in windows because I've page fault error, so I'm triyng to do some fsck from linux for this hard disk.... do you have idea?01:50
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hyuma!ntfsck01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
Minatakuubuntu: Linux can be easy, but it requires you to learn01:51
MinatakuYou seem to be completely unwilling to learn, so of course it's going to be difficult01:51
ubuntuits helping me get over my sadness that linux isnt that good afterall01:51
Moby_Dickubuntu do you get any sounds out of your speakers01:51
hyuma!beryl01:51
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:51
ubuntuonly ogg i hear01:52
MinatakuDrop the "Do it all for me" attitude01:52
ubuntuwelcome sound01:52
voorhees86what is te best msn software?01:52
Moby_Dickyou hear ogg?01:52
hyumavoorhees86: I'm using kopete01:52
hyumait's ok01:52
Aloneaubuntu: Ok, so you are having trouble playing mp3s?01:52
Minatakuubuntu: In that case, it sounds like you don't have any MP3 decoding support if you can play OGG files01:52
dwidmann!codecs | ubuntu01:52
ubotuubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:52
voorhees86my kopete not work very well01:52
MinatakuWhich is completely different from sound not working at all01:52
HaSH!iso01:52
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.01:52
ubuntui told you all that in the beginning :/01:52
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Yorokobivoorhees86, alternatives for MSN : amsn, gaim, psi, kopete, possibly others01:53
MinatakuThen why did you complain that your audio wasn't working at all?01:53
ubuntuhow do i install codecs01:53
ubuntufrom konsole?01:53
Aloneaubuntu: when you try to play an MP3 on amarok it should say something about installing mp3 support. just let it do its thing and you will be fine.01:53
Moby_Dickubuntu what installer are you using, synaptic, kynaptic or adept?01:53
hyumaubuntu with apt-get01:53
vvvdoes anyone know what i need to play a movie as my background?01:53
ubuntuit doesnt do that Alonea orelse i woudlnt have been here01:53
hyumavvv what?01:53
voorhees86yeah i know , but im asking what is the best?01:53
dwidmannvoorhees86: that's a matter of opinion01:54
hyumavoorhees86: gaim01:54
mrandhyuma: vvv wants his X wallpaper to be the output of mplayer01:54
mrdlouisdi registered moby thats why my name changed01:54
vit_alguien que hable espaol!!!01:54
mrdlouisdthanks for the help01:54
Moby_Dickubuntu what package manager are you using?01:54
vvvyeah thats what  i want mrand01:54
vvvdo you know the name of a program that could do that?01:54
Aloneaubuntu: ok, so then you are missing libraries. lets see Mplayer has a bunch of binaries. dunno if the package in adept installs those too as I have always done it myself01:54
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ubuntuwhats the command to install the codes for mp3: sudo apt-get .... ???01:54
hyumado you want take a video capture of your desktop, vvv?01:54
ubuntuthis is very complex01:55
ubuntufor me01:55
mrandhyuma: he wants his wallpaper to be a movie01:55
ubuntui dont understand01:55
dwidmannubuntu: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs01:55
Moby_Dickubuntu, you need to know the codec name, unless you tell me what package manager you are using01:55
Alonea!adept01:55
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:55
ubuntuok ty01:55
vvvi want to make my desktop run movies instead of the movie player01:55
ubuntuits too much information01:55
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hyumavvv why?01:55
Hirvinen!mp3 | ubuntu01:55
ubotuubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:55
ubuntulibxinel already is the lastest version it says dwidmann01:56
Aloneaubuntu: linux can be a bit dazzling at first, but you got to be patient. I know its frustrating. I was frustrated at first too.01:56
dwidmannubuntu: what program are you using to (attempt to) play the mp3s?01:56
ubuntui dont want much just sound is so basic01:56
Yorokobidwidmann, ubuntu is using amarok01:56
Moby_Dickubuntu, go to the kde menu then, go to system, do you have synaptic or kynaptic in the list?01:56
vvvhyuma i dual screen and i see alot of people doing it01:57
ubuntui dont even know if mp3 codecs is causing it its just that\01:57
mrandvvv: even if there was a way to do it, it wouldn't work with transparent applications, so the only way you'd be able to see the movie is if you weren't running any programs, but then you'd have your icons in the way of the movie.  X.Org is not windows 9501:57
dwidmannYorokobi: wouldn't happen to know if he's running dapper or edgy would you?01:57
ubuntui dont hear audio in amarok01:57
Minatakuubuntu: Perhaps Amarok isn't configured correctly01:57
dwidmannubuntu: it's not muted or something silly like that is it?01:57
Yorokobi2.6 kernel so edgy or feisty01:57
Hirvinenubuntu: Have you followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP301:57
ubuntuno its not muted both master and pcm slides are in the green01:57
Aloneaubuntu: mp3 codec isn't installed by default I dont think01:57
dwidmannYorokobi: 2.6 kernel would also include breezy hoary and warty01:57
ubuntuin mixer01:57
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Yorokobi*shrug*01:58
hyumavvv :O01:58
vvvi see mrand01:58
vit_holas!!!!01:58
dwidmann If it's pre-edgy, ubuntu could possibly be using the GStreamer engine instead of the Xine engine, especially in a GNOME setup01:58
Yorokobivvv, vlc supports using the desktop as a movie player01:58
vvvah i will download that01:59
hyumavvv maybe VLC do it?01:59
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mrandYorokobi: but does it work with transparent applications too?01:59
vvvah hyuma i just want to be able to spin my cube and look at movies on every side while its spinning. just for fun01:59
Aloneaubuntu: I think the packaged you need is libxine-extracodecs01:59
vvvi will download vlc through add/remove01:59
hyumavvv do you have beryl so?01:59
vvvbut i am having one problem with beryl.. i can't seem to add different wallpapers to different sides of the cube01:59
Yorokobimrand ... um, keep the desktop clear of apps ? :)01:59
Yorokobior use Beryl01:59
mrand:-P02:00
Moby_DickWhat about the repositories, he probably doesn't have his sources.list file setup to get restricted files02:00
vvvi see in general  options, desktop background desktop manager support viewports02:00
vvvwhen i turn that on.. my other desktops are transparent02:00
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YorokobiKDE does not support viewports (very well)02:00
vvvah i see02:00
YorokobiYou end up with one desktop via KDE and 4+ viewports with beryl02:00
hyumahey anyone knows audio program like adobe audition ?02:01
dwidmannubuntu, can you check something for me? in amarok go to settings -> configure amarok -> engine ->. What engine is selected?02:01
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vvvi can't reply to you hyuma in private02:02
hyumaok vvv02:02
hawk_hello eveyone nice to see you all02:02
dwidmannHi hawk_02:02
hyuma!audition02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
hyuma!audio editor02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audio editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
dwidmannhyuma: what does adobe audition do . .. I've never used it02:02
hyumaaudition is for mixing audio02:03
dwidmannThe only audio editing program I've heard about that gets any hype in FOSS-land is audacity02:03
hawk_anyone know of a good fps or stradigy game for linux with or with out wine02:03
hyumait's advanced audio editor audition02:03
dwidmann!audacity | hyuma02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
Yorokobihawk_, any of the Quake games02:03
vvvso basically as long as i use beryl i'm limited to one wallpaper on my desktop for every side of the cube?02:03
hyuma!audacity02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
dwidmann!info audicity02:04
dwidmanngah,02:04
ubotuPackage audicity does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas02:04
Yorokobivvv, oh sure, make me move to my desktop so I can use beryl :)02:04
hawk_Yorokobi: thanks, dos that work in native linux or wine02:04
dwidmann!info audacity02:04
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB02:04
hyumammm02:04
dwidmannthere we go02:04
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Yorokobihawk_, both. But they work better with the linux native binaries02:04
hyumadwidmann: I try it now and i tell you if it's good02:05
hawk_Yorokobi ok thanks for your help, do you know where i can get a how to on seting it up native02:05
dwidmannThe Doom games and UT games work also hawk_02:05
vvvyoro =)02:05
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vvvah, i'm such a linux newb i don't even know how to get that matrix wallpaper =(**02:06
dwidmannhawk_: at any rate, you have to buy the game(s) (it's not free, should be relatively cheap), as you'll be needing a license number or something of that nature02:06
hyumadwidmann: no, audacity is very poor program, I need something more professional02:06
Chemicalvampi think i broke adept! :((02:06
mrandhyuma: lol02:06
NightBirdquestion, can I resize my ntfs partition in the live cd so that I can make space to install kubuntu?02:06
dwidmannhyuma, that's the only one I k now of, sorry :(02:07
mrandhyuma: that is an april fools joke??02:07
pagansmindwww.ardour.org daw02:07
hyumano mrand02:07
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hyumawait I show you what I'm looking for02:07
pagansmindrosegarden i like02:07
Moby_DickI am trying to install Qt from the source files on their website, does anybody think this could cause conflicts with my current Qt installation?02:07
hitmanWillyhyuma: try mixx02:07
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dwidmannMoby_Dick: no, not if you install them somewhere "safe", put them somewhere like /opt/ and th ey won't interfere with anything02:08
vvvi don't think my sound will ever work well in linux.. only my 2 front speakers work its so annoying02:08
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hawk_dwidmann: have the game quake 1,2 and doom 95 now i just need to find them02:08
hyumaok hitmanWilly02:09
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Yorokobihawk_, check the repositories (quake, q2, q3a are there) but you need the game CD/DVD as well02:09
Moby_DickI am installing them so I can install k3b 1.0, so when I configure k3b how do I find the new Qt.02:09
hyumahttp://www.softmag.no/bilder/adobe_audition_s3.jpg02:09
hyumathis is adobe audition02:09
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calamarihow do I set the default web browser to firefox?02:10
SesshoumaruYorokobi: could it be that i have the legacy GPU? my card is BFG nVidia GeForce 7950 GT OC02:11
hawk_Yorokobi: thanks02:11
Yorokobicalamari, Kmenu -> System Settings -> Default Applications02:11
Chemicalvampyup i broke it... please look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13472/02:11
mrandhyuma: if audacity does not have a feature you want, there may be a plug-in that provides it.02:11
YorokobiSesshoumaru, a 7950 is not legacy02:11
dwidmannSesshoumaru: that's no legacy GPU! that things still very fresh02:11
calamariYorokobi: thanks a lot!02:11
pagansmindhttp://linux-sound.org/02:11
SesshoumaruYorokobi: LOL02:12
hyumamrand: I don't think that audacity will have a plugin that will load video on multitrack mode with audio to sync both02:12
pagansmindcinderella02:12
dwidmannThe latest one that support was pullef ro in the main driver is the GeForce4 GPUs02:12
MinatakuYeah, only ATI cards are "legacy" in Linux after 6 months, not nVidia cards02:12
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i didn't know that legacy meant "old"02:12
leiarcinelerra02:12
Yorokobiheh02:13
Chemicalvampi messed it up huh?02:13
pagansmindfor video editing02:13
hawk_ok what do i do after i have installed the packege02:13
dik,     ,   ,      ?=)02:13
leiarpagansmind: cinerella02:13
YorokobiOkay, who remembers the ubotu command to bring up the adept fix ?02:13
Yorokobi!ru | dik02:13
ubotudik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:13
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dik!ru02:14
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:14
vvvhow do i bring my sound icon back to to the system tray?02:14
Chemicalvampi know what i did.. umm "deb [WWW]  http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/" is on line 102:14
Sesshoumarui swear.. i have the worst compatible computer for linux02:14
dwidmannwhen it comes to video editing, it's looking like Kdenlive has a ton of potential02:14
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Yorokobivvv, open kmix02:14
vvvah ty02:14
Chemicalvampand tis is the error E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)02:15
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avvalon Can someone tell me the fastest file transfer from Ubuntu to Windows from a remote Ubuntu box?02:15
ubuntuhttp://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuandvistamf2.jpg02:15
vvvi enabled surround center and side sound. and still only front sound works02:15
Chemicalvampso if i delete line 1 im all good again right?02:15
mranddik: `/j #ubuntu-ru`02:15
leiardwidmann: what about cinerella? I'm about to pick out a programme to use on my pupils. I thought cinerella was the one..02:15
YorokobiChemicalvamp, what does the first line look like ?02:15
dwidmannthought its name was cinelerra .... I couldn't get it to compile last I tried ...02:16
compilerwriterI am getting a gtk warning about can't open a terminal on  "192.168.0.104:0.0".  Am I correct in believing that this is because my box is headless and I am having an xsession via XDCMP?02:16
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Chemicalvampwell in the first field "deb" second is "http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/" and i put edgy in distro field02:16
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vvvis thier a link that would help me get my sound card working correctly02:16
avvalonOh and security isn't important for my file transfer02:17
soulridervv theres probably something on the forums, have you ever been there?02:17
dwidmannvvv: go into kmix and turn on "duplicate front"02:17
soulridertheres tons of help02:17
leiardwidmann: Cinerella is a princess cinelerra is a video editing programme..02:17
vvvi have tried findins stuff on ubuntu forums but i couldn't find anything that helped me02:17
compilerwriterThat and I am getting a warning about being unable to find X libraries.02:17
vvvmost of the stuff i find is very outdated02:17
soulrideraww vv, that sucks02:18
YorokobiChemicalvamp, it should be deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main02:18
dwidmannleiar: and that means I was right? Hurray02:18
vvvyeah the two speakers tha work work nicely but only those 2 work =(02:18
Chemicalvampi sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:18
Yorokobiavvalon, does the remote ubuntu box have SSH server?02:18
dwidmannvvv: did you try turning on the duplicate front switch in kmix?02:18
avvalonYorokobi, yes but it's INCREDIBLY slow even on a cable connection on that end and a 3MB DSL connection on this end02:19
leiardwidmann: did I say cinerella? Well, it's late in Norway. I'd better go to bed..02:19
dwidmannnight then leiar02:19
vvvdwid is that the green light close to the top?02:19
dwidmannyeah02:19
Yorokobivvv, sometimes you have to use alsamixer to enable the other channels02:19
dwidmannone of many02:19
leiarnight02:19
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Yorokobiavvalon, you could use scp or sftp (ssh ftp)02:20
vvvyeah thats the only one that works it was enabled by default, then i turned on the other ones surround, center, side02:20
Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13476/ is my sorces.list02:20
vvvbut i stil only get sound through my front02:20
Yorokobiavvalon, the slowness is due to <1MB upstream on the remote end if it is using cable02:20
avvalonArg.. that would explain the slow speed.02:20
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avvalonDoes that apply to any kind of transfer?02:20
YorokobiIt applies to most cable/dsl connections02:21
Chemicalvampok now adept will load02:21
vvvwhat does mux do? its at 002:21
avvalonSo even setting my particular directory as an FTP server isn't going to fix it?02:21
YorokobiEg. I have a 7MB down and 1MB up with my DSL (faster than the cable comcast offers in my area) :)02:21
Yorokobiavvalon, nothing is going to change it if the remote is on cable ... except getting a T1 or better02:22
avvalonLOL, alright thanks Yorokobi.. I guess I'm going to be here awhile on my 4 gig directory02:22
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Yorokobihaha, yes, you will02:23
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vvvare their any settings i have off that i should have on or the other way around?02:23
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ChemicalvampYorokobi: i did fetch update, but there are no upgrades like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade says there should02:23
YorokobiChemicalvamp, what exactly are you trying to do?02:23
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Yorokobiupgrade to feisty or upgrade KDE to 3.5.6 ?02:24
Chemicalvampupdate my edgy 6.10 to 7.0402:24
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YorokobiChemicalvamp, deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main02:25
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YorokobiThat should be the first line of the sources.list02:25
N6REJanyone know how to "map" a smb folder so it always shows up mounted on the desktop?02:25
soulriderhey N6REJ, i got no idea02:25
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N6REJI wnat k3b to always store my mp3's on the server02:25
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N6REJhey soul02:25
Sesshoumarudoes anyone know where to get a windows font pack? (for wine)02:26
YorokobiN6REJ, add the mount + options to /etc/fstab02:26
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compilerwriterHow would one go about finding out where there X Libraries are kept?02:26
N6REJYorokobi: explain more pleasE?02:26
soulriderfstab works with smb shares ?02:26
Yorokobi!fstab02:26
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions02:26
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N6REJYorokobi: these are smb shares02:26
soulridercompilerwriter: are you missing libraries ?02:26
YorokobiShould work ... test it and see02:26
N6REJweird, ok.02:27
ChemicalvampYorokobi: still no updates (cant do full upgrade)02:27
Yorokobiahh maybe not02:27
hitmanWillymount it as type samba02:27
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compilerwriterNo soulrider I don't think I am missing them.02:27
N6REJhitmanWilly: how?02:27
soulriderok compilerwriter02:27
philphotook folks, I need someone with some powerful magic.02:27
N6REJhitmanWilly: smbclient shows them fine.02:27
compilerwritersoulrider I have come across a configure that can't find them.02:28
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N6REJphilphoto: you change your nick again?02:28
soulridercompilerwriter: i guess if you know the name of one fo them you can just do a "locate <name>" and see where they are02:28
philphotoN6REJ:  I'm formerly philfo02:28
YorokobiN6REJ, it should work if the network is started before the disks/partitions are mounted02:28
soulridercompilerwriter: maybe you just dont have them installed02:28
philphotoyeah, did another install.  clean, on a clean drive02:28
N6REJlol figures.02:28
soulridertry to apt-get install them02:28
hitmanWillyin /etc/fstab where you normally put the filesystem type, just put samba02:28
N6REJphilphoto: cool, btw fiesty is great02:28
philphotoi did a bad thing02:28
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YorokobiChemicalvamp, *shrug*02:28
soulrideranyone here tried arch linux ?02:29
philphotoI loaded feisty & it was buggy as hell02:29
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N6REJhitmanWilly: ok, so if I have a folder on the server named /home/mp3 the I put that in /etc/fstab?02:29
icetbrhello, is it possible to remove the Actions entry from kmenu?02:29
N6REJhitman the servers name is "driftwood"02:29
compilerwriterI did apt-get install xlibs-dev and the others already.02:29
N6REJphilphoto: no way, it solved all my problems :D02:29
philphotoI tried to load up winxp on my old 40GB drive, but wasn't aware that location was where my master boot record was.02:29
YorokobiChemicalvamp, I am the type to glance over instructions so I missed a key part of the upgrade when I tried it (both times :) ), are you following those instructions exactly?02:29
N6REJphilphoto: lol easy fix.02:30
philphotoso now I'm talking with you all from the live CD02:30
philphotoand need a walk thru02:30
philphotoif that's possible.02:30
N6REJ!grub | philphoto02:30
ubotuphilphoto: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:30
philphotothanks, back in a sec02:30
soulriderphilphoto: whata re you having trouble doing ? maybe i can help02:30
ChemicalvampIn Adept Manager go to Manage Repositories and enable edgy-proposed.. what is this one?02:30
philphotoread my previous msg's02:31
YorokobiChemicalvamp, it should be feisty-proposed02:31
N6REJsoulrider: he lost linux grub boot record because he installed xp after nix lol02:31
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YorokobiI think ... let me checj02:31
soulriderChemicalvamp: you upgrading ?02:31
Chemicalvamp have edgy02:31
N6REJbtdt02:31
compilerwritersoulrider so I should apt-get install what pray tell.02:31
Yorokobicheck02:31
philphotowell, the best way to learn is to fail02:31
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Chemicalvampright now i have edgy 6.10 fully upgraded02:31
dwidmannphilphoto: at what point did you load feisty? Doesn't seem too buggy right now :302:31
N6REJphilphoto: yep, you may have to do it a couple of times to get it right phil02:31
philphotonot so much fail, but learn how to pull yourself out of the bad situations02:31
soulriderphilphoto: recovering grub is rather easy, read hte guide, but if you dont understand something just ask us02:31
philphotook, give me a minute02:32
YorokobiChemicalvamp, I'm wrong. edgy-proposed is correct02:32
philphototehn I'll talk with you about my feisty beef02:32
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dwidmannphilphoto: more specifically, to pull yourself out of the bad situations without reinstalling02:32
philphotoha ha ha ha, I just realized what I said....02:32
philphotoexactly02:32
vvvanyone here happen to use a dell and a problem with audio?02:32
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dwidmannvvv: my little brothers computer (formerly mine) had issues with audio ... it was some for integrated sound, used the intel8x0 driver02:33
Chemicalvampno we're BOTH wrong.. look close it says "/"02:33
hitmanWillyits //<windows box name>/<shared folder name> <mount point> smbfs02:33
dwidmannwhat channel controlled what was really messy02:33
Chemicalvampfor amd6402:33
vvvi have intergrated sound also sigmatel though.. what did you do to fix it dwid?02:34
Yorokobi64 ... oooooh. Small detail, that.02:34
dwidmannvvv: ran my head through a wall, built a new computer02:34
philphotoactually, I need to change the first IDE master in my BIOS if possible.  OR install GRUB on my drive where this build of Kubuntu is loaded02:34
Chemicalvamphow was http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuandvistamf2.jpg this done02:34
vvvhaha, i figured i might as well just buy a new audio card02:34
vvvsince i'm running off intergrated at the moment anyways02:35
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dwidmannvvv: I'd recommend this as the least stressful thing to do02:35
Yorokobiokay Chemicalvamp, so you have "deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ ./" (notice the ./) ??02:35
Chemicalvampyeah im already upgrading now02:35
Yorokobiso ... its working ?02:36
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vvvits been killing me. thats what i'll do then.. its the only reason i go back to windows to watch movies and so on02:36
dwidmannYorokobi: I can remember three things about that dist-upgrade process that really annoyed me :(02:36
xnitexokay i'm trying to update kde 3.5.5 to 3.5.602:36
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xnitexand i am at the  announcement page and i copy and paste deb with the link to it in terminal and it gives me a bash: deb: command not found return?02:37
xnitex>.<02:37
xnitexhelp?02:37
Yorokobidwidmann, me too. Postfix, sasl2-bin, and adept being a poor replacement for dselect :)02:37
Yorokobioh yeah, beryl02:37
dwidmann1) You upgrade all of kde (150mb? ...) so you can upgrade everything again, woohoo 2) it runs apt-get update not once (ideal), not twice (gah), but three times!! 3) when it runs into problems it doesn't let you know, and when it reboots with those problems, you can run into things like say, kernel panics and other fun like I did :( Took me hours to fix that ....02:38
Yorokobiouch, dwidmann. Your pain makes mine look like a carpet burn02:38
philphotoin konsole at the grub prompt I show grub file in two locations: hd1,0  and hd2,002:38
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philphotoany opinions on which I use?02:39
jhutchinsvvv: Did you try that troubleshooting page?  Did anything there help?02:39
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dwidmannYorokobi: and I waited a week for the upgrades to download before I did it, that's what made it burn worse :(02:39
jhutchinsphilphoto: How did you arrive at this dual installation?02:39
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philphotoI got greedy02:40
jhutchinsphilphoto: Doesn't seem like a very common problem, only solution I can imagine is to try each one and see what they do.02:40
jhutchinsphilphoto: Where is your kubuntu install?02:40
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philphotothe one I've put the most development into is on /sdb02:41
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Yorokobifdisk, format, re-instaaaall, doo-dah, doo-dah02:41
jhutchinsphilphoto: Which is mostlikely hd202:41
philphotogotcha.02:41
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philphotoworst case scenario, I boot up here again & switch.02:42
jhutchinsphilphoto: Yep.02:42
philphotothanks, all02:42
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philphotonow, my hd2 is not 1st IDE master though which is where the master boot record WAS before WinXP formatted then didn't complete the install.02:43
pollyoDo they have anything that will allow firefox to run activex?02:43
philphotois there going to be a problem with that?02:43
jhutchinspollyo: Not that I know of.02:43
hitmanWillypollyo, why would u want to do that?02:43
ChemicalvampYorokobi: !source-o-matic is what i needed for the adept fix02:44
jhutchinspollyo: That's a feature, by the way.02:44
jhutchinspollyo: Makes it much more secure.02:44
Yorokobijhutchins, noscript ?02:44
Yorokobi:)02:44
Yorokobipollyo, this is probably as close to getting activex as you can get: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page02:44
pollyojhutchins: I wanted it for my sister.  She uses walgreens to do photos and on windows she was able to use an activex feature.02:45
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jhutchinsxnitex: Right, deb is not a comand.  What are you working from?02:45
pollyoYorokobi: Yes.  I have that installed but the photos do not come up with the activex photo uploader that it installs.02:45
xnitexubuntu edgy on kde session02:45
jhutchinspollyo: Possibly gimp or picassa would please her.02:46
xnitexi'm just did a request install on kubuntu-desktop02:46
jhutchinsxnitex: I mean what instructions?02:46
hitmanWillyactivex = please come crack my computer02:46
pollyojhutchins: She is happy with the applications on the linux just not the web setup on walgreens without the activex.02:46
xnitexthe Http://wiki.kubuntu.org02:46
pollyohitmanWilly: They have an option to only allow activex from sites you trust.02:47
Yorokobijavascript = pdf = jpg = activex = make me vulnerable02:47
Chemicalvamp!botsnack02:47
ubotuYum!02:47
jhutchinsxnitex: c'mon, man, which page?02:47
hitmanWillypollyo: until someone gets you with a phishing site02:47
xnitexhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade02:48
jhutchinsxnitex: Basically you just add the 3.5.6 repo and do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.02:48
pollyohitmanWilly: PHishing sites would they also get someone downloading a debian package?02:48
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hitmanWillypollyo: true...02:48
xnitexand i've also been having problems installing and compiling themes and such from http://kde-look.org02:48
xnitexbut i'll get on to that after this is finished02:48
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philphotook, GRUB has been placed somewhere that BIOS will see it.  wish me luck.  see   you all in a few02:49
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vvv_i need to add something to  /etc/modprobe.d/options, but it says i don't have premission02:50
vvv_how do i get premission?02:50
Yorokobiprefix the command with sudo02:50
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vvv_sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/options02:50
vvv_like that?02:50
Yorokobiyep02:50
nosrednaekimno..."kdesu"02:50
hitmanWillypollyo: but with a deb pkg, you have to actively install it whereas with activex all you would have to do is agree to run it02:50
nosrednaekiminstead of sudo02:50
vvv_kdesu?02:50
vvv_ok i'll try that02:50
Yorokobidochidemo02:50
Yorokobiboth work02:51
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nosrednaekimno..... not with x programs..02:51
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nosrednaekim*X and KDE02:51
xnitexok i did what you said after adding the respositories from the kubuntudisupgrade wiki page02:51
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Yorokobinosrednaekim, try it: sudo kate /something02:51
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Yorokobiit works fine02:51
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Yorokobi... so long as you do it from konsole :)02:52
nosrednaekimhmm... you are right...I apologize...most KDE apps don't wok that way02:52
xnitexand during the dist upgrade preparing the upgrade it came back with an error during update and i dont understand why i'm using wifi and right next to the router but it gave me a failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:52
oicu812went from suse 10.1 to ubuntu 6.1 today02:52
vvv_kdesu worked for me.. i'm sure the other one would too =) gonna restart and see if it helped02:53
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Chemicalvampoicu812, wich do you now preffer?02:53
xnitex:[02:53
Chemicalvamp!ping02:53
ubotupong02:53
Yorokobi!fortune02:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:53
oicu812ubuntu02:54
oicu812finally i dont have to tar02:54
oicu812and compile02:54
Chemicalvamplol i still like !botsnack most02:54
oicu812and have it not work02:54
peanutboicu812, i esecially hated RPMs02:54
hitmanWillyoicu812, kinda sux when ur distro's in bed with the enemy, too02:54
oicu812i got redhat rps to work though02:54
oicu812oh jah enemy eh02:54
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pollyo! reaktivate02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reaktivate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
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oicu812i thought that i had erased my back -up partition but i didnt even screw that up02:55
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oicu812still got all my bsg episodes02:56
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forhamhi02:58
forhamYorokobi,02:58
forhamyou here02:58
forhamChemicalvamp,02:58
Yorokobiscary02:58
Chemicalvampuh huh02:58
forhamthanks for your help02:58
forhamhttp://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuvistaxglry1.jpg02:58
forhamthats a screenshot02:59
forhamof me in here :)02:59
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YorokobiCool02:59
Chemicalvamphow is that done? lol02:59
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forham;P02:59
forhammagic02:59
Chemicalvamp!magic03:00
NightBirdwhoa03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about magic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
NightBirdso is that one screen a copy of vmware running full screen with vista installed on it?03:00
Chemicalvampohh vmware03:00
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Chemicalvamp!vmware03:00
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers03:00
NightBirdor one of the other accelerations?03:01
NightBirder... not accelerations, but virtual machines03:01
azmodeanexit03:01
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forhamNightBird, nice try but that doesnt explain the rotating cube huh :)03:02
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NightBirdforham: that's easy03:02
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NightBirdthat would be beryl03:03
pollyoAnyone familiar with compiz?03:03
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forhamnot when the host os is vista :)03:03
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NightBirdpollyo: I know of it.... but the only experience i have is with beryl which is a branch of it03:03
NightBirdforham: I was assuming a guest os of Vista03:04
pollyoNighBird: Thanks.03:04
forhamkubuntu yes03:04
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nosrednaekimwait a sec... there was just some OSS project to port the rotating cube to vista03:04
forhamkubunti as guest03:04
azmodeanI'm trying to compile and install the latest stable kernel build on kubuntu, would this be the place to ask for help, or shoud I look for a kernel-oriented channel?03:04
forhamthat doesnt explain the cube tho NightBird03:04
NightBirdhm.... maybe xgl in cygwin?  But I think that would only affect the X windows and not regular windows programs so that's out03:05
forhamlol03:05
NightBirdyeah, some open source version available for windows vista/xp that duplicates the same effect03:05
forhamsee not see easy afterall huh ;')03:05
Yorokobiazmodean, you want to compile your own kernel ?03:05
forhamits still pretty kewl ;)03:05
nosrednaekimyeah,,,03:06
azmodeanwell I've compiled it, but I seem to be running into an initrd issue03:06
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azmodeanmy symptoms match an issue that seems to have come up with yaird a year or so ago, but the reccommended fixes don't do anything for me03:07
forhamNightBird,  xgl is opensource :)03:07
vvvwhat do i do to make vlc play a movie as my x wallpaper03:07
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NightBirdforham: yeah, I know...03:07
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NightBirdforham: I also know that there is a cygwin implementation of it03:07
forhamyeah but that one has issue like you said03:08
NightBirdwhat, that it doesn't handle the windows desktop as well?03:08
NightBirdof course not.... it's sitting ontop of the windows desktop as an extension03:08
forhamyeah03:09
NightBirdso it's some rotating cube effect for vista with kubuntu running in a virtual machine?03:09
NightBirdhm...03:09
forhambut stardock the company that made the vista ui is working on an xgl clone03:09
NightBirdoh really03:09
NightBirdI wonder if that's included in the package that I bought...03:09
forhamyeah03:09
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forhamyou are right nightbird03:09
pollyoAnyone running KVM?03:10
forhamits an app that clones xgl on windows03:10
forhambut not as rich of course03:10
xnitexokay how do i remove a link from the source line03:10
vvvdoes anyone know how to make vlc play a movie as my wallpaper?03:10
nosrednaekimpollyo: tried... it didn't work..03:10
xnitexthat i put into it and now it won't let me run adept03:10
xnitex>.<03:10
pollyononsrednaekim: Do you run qemu/kqemu ?03:10
forhamnice emo of pinching eyes z03:11
forhamxnitex,03:11
nosrednaekimpollyo: I was trying...03:11
NightBirdforham: what's the name?03:11
nosrednaekimdidn't work (at least for botting a cd03:11
nosrednaekim*booting03:12
pollyonosrednaekim: I've had success with the qemu/kqemu.03:12
nosrednaekimok..03:12
pollyonosrednaekim: This machine can not run kvm.03:12
xnitext not as rich of course03:12
xnitex[20:10:24]  <xnitex> okay how do i remove a link from the source line03:12
xnitex[20:10:25]  <vvv> does anyone know how to make vlc play a movie as my wallpaper?03:12
xnitex[20:10:29]  <nosrednaekim> pollyo: tried... it didn't work..03:12
xnitex[20:10:30]   Signoff: ubuntu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))03:12
xnitex[20:10:30]  <xnitex> that i put into it and now it won't let me run adept03:12
xnitex[20:10:33]  <xnitex> >.<03:12
xnitex[20:10:58]  <pollyo> nonsrednaekim: Do you run qemu/kqemu ?03:12
xnitex[20:11:25]  <forham> nice emo of pinching eyes z03:12
xnitex[20:11:27]  <forham> xnitex,03:12
xnitex[20:11:51]  <nosrednaekim> pollyo: I was trying...03:12
xnitex[20:11:54]   Signoff: pauljw ("Leaving")03:12
xnitex[20:11:56]  <NightBird> forham: what's the name?03:12
xnitex[20:11:59]  <nosrednaekim> didn't work (at least for botting a cd03:12
xnitex[20:12:10]  <nosrednaekim> *booting03:12
xnitexshit sorry03:12
NightBird>_>03:12
xnitex:[[[[03:13
xnitexi was trying to paste the error gyahh03:13
xnitexE: Type 'http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list03:13
xnitexE: Unable to lock the list directory03:13
xnitexthere?03:13
NightBirdbe more careful next time03:13
xnitex:[[[03:13
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xnitexhelp?03:13
intelikey!help03:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:13
Betzeferany 1 knows how to put the network connection icon in the tray bar when connected ?03:13
forhamthe name NightBird03:13
NightBirdxnitex: post your /etc/apt/sources.list in one of the paste sites03:13
Betzeferany 1 knows how to put the network connection icon in the tray bar when connected ?03:13
vvvxnitex i'm not sure what your reply was to my question03:13
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nosrednaekimBetzefer: wlanassistant?03:14
Betzeferwhat ?03:14
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Betzeferdont u know the 2 little computers in the taskbar ?03:14
Betzeferlike in windows03:15
Betzefer?03:15
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pollyonosrednaekim: You can boot from the actual CD drive or from an ISO file.03:15
pollyonosrednaekim: Using qemu.03:15
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moby_pythonBetzefer are you using a dial up connection?03:15
intelikeyBetzefer which window ?03:16
Betzeferrouter03:16
Betzeferhmm the two little computers in the traybar03:16
Betzeferwhen u are connected to the web03:16
Betzeferjust like windows03:16
Betzeferi have it on my backtrack cd03:16
Betzeferit uses kde 203:16
xnitexokay i took out the repository entry i incorrectly typed in in kedit03:16
xnitexand its not letting me save it03:16
Betzeferas well03:16
xnitex???03:16
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sandihi03:17
intelikeyxnitex kdesu03:17
sandidoes anybody knows http://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html ?03:17
xnitexsorry - kedit unable to make a backup of the original file and just lets me click ok?03:17
xnitexi dont understand what u mean by kdesu?03:18
intelikey!kdesu > xnitex03:18
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Betzeferno one knows how to ?03:18
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wolferineBetzefer, knows what (just walked in) ?03:19
Betzefernope03:19
Betzeferi asked a couple of minuts ago03:19
Betzeferu know the two little computers down in the taskbar ?03:19
Betzeferwhen u connect to the web03:19
Betzefer?03:19
YorokobiBetzefer, no03:20
moby_pythonIt must be a specific program.03:20
YorokobiI'm not familiar with that03:20
Betzeferlike in windows03:20
xnitexThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by an incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem?03:20
wolferineBetzefer, in windows or ubuntu/kubuntu ?03:20
intelikeywolferine he's wanting to minimize the connection app to the taskbar03:20
Betzeferkubuntu03:20
wolferineBetzefer, what about it?03:20
Betzeferhow do i make it to apper03:20
Betzefer?03:20
Betzefercause i dont have it now03:21
wolferineBetzefer, why do you want it?03:21
Betzeferi have it when i use my kse backtrack cd03:21
Betzeferi like it03:21
wolferineBetzefer, u wireless?03:21
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Betzeferinstead of doing ifconfig03:21
wolferineBetzefer, u wireless?03:21
xnitexok i just took out the line and it loaded up03:21
Betzefernope03:21
wolferinehmm03:21
Betzeferlan03:21
moby_pythontry running kppp03:21
xnitexbut when i try to upgrade the distro it gives me an error03:21
wolferinewell, you can add a icon in your taskbar I think03:21
wolferinethat will monitor your network03:21
wolferineright click the area, then see if you can add03:22
wolferineif you want something more advanced, there is lots out there03:22
Betzeferi donsent have an option that talks about networks03:22
xnitexan error during update menu pops up after it offers me to upgrade the distro03:22
xnitexFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)03:22
Betzeferlike what ?03:22
xnitex??? :[[[03:22
wolferineBetzefer, on the app bar, or at the end?03:22
wolferinewell, I use gDesklets, cause I have ubuntu03:23
Betzefernext 2 the clock03:23
wolferinebut I am sure it will work in KDE as well03:23
Betzeferwhats that ?03:23
xnitexhelp?03:23
wolferinegoogle it man :)03:23
xnitexplz?03:23
moby_pythonBetzefer do you have kppp in your kmenu > internet> kppp?03:23
wolferinexnitex, one at a time please03:23
Betzeferya03:24
wolferineBetzefer, its just not worth waste time on that one little thing, if you want more, google gDEsktlets03:24
wolferineits cool03:24
moby_pythonhave you tried running that?03:24
wolferinenot like Beryl cool, but its nice03:24
Betzeferthat would help me ?03:24
wolferinexnitex, so you need to edit your sources.list03:24
xnitexno i'm past that part03:24
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wolferinewell, you need to edit it again03:24
xnitexokay with what and for?03:25
wolferinetake out the us in us.archive03:25
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wolferineget it from a different site03:25
wolferineor wait a day or two03:25
xnitexin every entry?03:25
wolferinejust the one that matches the error03:25
xnitexand i got it from the wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade03:26
xnitex?03:26
xnitexi've already passed that part03:26
xnitexi'm on the gzip error part?03:26
xnitex:[03:26
wolferineget it from a different site...03:26
xnitexyeah like my n00b ass knows where to get a diff site when thats from the official site03:26
xnitex:[03:27
wolferinei already told you03:27
xnitexa different site is what u told me03:27
wolferinetake out the us03:27
xnitexin every repo entry in the list?03:28
xnitex:O03:28
wolferinejust the ONE that gave the error03:28
wolferinei hate repeating myself03:28
xnitexdude okay you're still on my first prob03:28
xnitexand you aren't listening to me03:28
wolferineyou should read what I wrote03:28
xnitexi finished that03:28
xnitexperhaps you should listen to what i write03:28
wolferineyou tried another sire?03:28
wolferinesite*03:28
xnitexno i took out the bad entry03:28
intelikeyxnitex perhaps you should.03:28
xnitexfrom the jriddel one03:28
wolferinegood luck03:28
xnitexi load adept03:29
Yorokobixnitex, are you using Kubuntu 64 ?03:29
xnitexit runs now03:29
xnitexi am using edgy03:29
xnitexubuntu03:29
xnitexwith kde 3.5.5 running03:29
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xnitexusing adept and i do fetch updates03:29
Yorokobiwhy are you using the jriddel repo?03:29
philfo1oh goodness.03:29
xnitexi'm not i took it out03:29
BluesKajI have no fglrx drivers on the system...they were wiped off ...need to reinstall ...tried to go back to an earlier date xserver-xorg but no luck ...any ideas ?03:29
xnitexafter i do fetch updates it brings up upgrade wizard03:29
xnitexa new version of kubuntu is available click next if you wish to upgrade, and i do so03:30
wolferineah, I think I understand you now03:30
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wolferinebut you still dont have to remove the entire line03:30
xnitexget to downloading and verying the upgrade took that works03:30
philfo1ok, I happened to get most of this back up & running, BUT I'm not on the install or hd that I want to be.03:30
wolferineand you werent clear on what EXACTLY the issue was03:30
YorokobiBluesKaj, synaptic has a roll-back option you could try03:30
xnitexclick finish to close adept package manager03:30
xnitexdistrobution upgrade pops up03:30
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xnitexupdating kubuntu to 7.0403:30
BluesKajno way to get to X ...I'm on TTY , Yorokobi03:31
xnitexon the preparing upgrade part when its fetching everything03:31
xnitexit comes up with an error03:31
xnitexa problem occured during the update, this is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry03:31
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Chemicalvampsame fetching file 115 of 855 at 50kb/s 5 hours remaining03:31
xnitexand i have done that 029203920390239023902390239 times already03:31
xnitexand i'm on it right now, so i dont see the problem being there03:31
YorokobiBluesKaj, do you want to get the fglrx drivers or roll-back X or both?03:31
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xnitexFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) is what pops up03:32
intelikey!feisty | xnitex03:32
ubotuxnitex: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)03:32
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i got the resolution fixed!03:32
Sesshoumaruthanks03:32
xnitexuhm okay?03:32
Yorokobixnitex, replace the us with gb and try it again03:32
xnitexok03:32
BluesKajtried rolling back X , it wont' work without the fglrx drivers03:32
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what did you do?03:32
xnitexgb.archive is the second entry in the repo list03:33
xnitexso its ALREADY there?03:33
Sesshoumaruerr.. not sure.. chnaged the resolution with a different thing..03:33
Sesshoumarubut it worked cause of the cfgs03:33
YorokobiBluesKaj, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx03:33
Yorokobixnitex, so remove the us one03:34
xnitexalmost everyone of them is a us one03:34
xnitex???03:34
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xnitexso i should remove all of them is what you are saying besides the http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-propsed main one?03:35
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Yorokobidude, xnitex : your problem is with the edgy-proposed with us. Nuke it03:35
Yorokobinot the others03:35
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intelikeysudo sed 's/us.archive/nl.archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list03:35
Yorokobiintelikey, too many changes there03:36
xnitexthats the only one that closely matches deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe03:36
LINI_IXhy can nybody help me pls my screen resolution changed to 640x480 and i cant change it back03:36
Chemicalvampi might be of some help i JUST did this03:36
xnitex??? and there is no us in front of it?03:36
xnitex:[[[03:36
Yorokobixnitex, deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main is the ONLY edgy-proposed entry you need. The others (just edgy) don't change03:37
pagansmindhumm03:37
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Chemicalvampare you doing genaric, i386, or am64?03:37
Yorokobior need to be removed03:37
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intelikeyLINI_IX did you change the vidio driver ?03:39
xnitexok so yeah03:39
Chemicalvampxnitex: it should look like this deb - http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ - / for i386 ! - seperates fields03:39
LINI_IXnon it changed bi itself03:39
xnitexi took out that line i pasted03:39
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xnitexand it still gives me the same error when fetching packages to upgrade kubuntu03:40
pollyoAnyone familiar with Reaktivate?03:40
Chemicalvamp!paste03:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:40
Yorokobixnitex, well then. prefix it with #03:40
Chemicalvampshow it to me03:40
xnitexhrm?03:40
ubuntuHello all.....I just installed Kubuntu and restarted and windows loaded and GRUB didn't show up...so I followed the various guides teling me to use the terminal to mess with grub, but when I use the find command it can't it can't find anything.03:40
Chemicalvampshow me the error03:40
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Chemicalvampuse the website to paste it03:40
Yorokobiubuntu, what are you using for find ?03:41
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ubuntuterminal>grub   "find /boot/grub/stage1" is what the guide said to do03:41
xnitexChemicalVamp : Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)03:41
intelikeyLINI_IX   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    is how to redefine the vidio settings.  then restarting the xserver ( [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]  )    should make it to where you can adjust the settings from within the gui app.03:41
xnitexhrm?03:42
Yorokobiubuntu, try find / -name stage1 ... but /boot/grub/ is where stage1 is located03:42
xnitexi'm a cunt hair away from having no hair left or walking away because i dont understand?03:42
xnitexperhaps someone could rd with me to help fix this?03:42
forhamYorokobi, i still have the same issue :(03:42
forhamlet me start up kubuntu at the far side of the kube03:42
forhamand ask again as ubuntu03:42
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Chemicalvampxnitex, type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:43
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intelikeyChemicalvamp no.03:43
intelikeykdesu   not sudo03:43
Chemicalvampthats just what i did03:43
intelikey!kdesu | Chemicalvamp03:43
ubotuChemicalvamp: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo03:43
m4ntisyoro:  I tried exactly that and I still got an Error 15: file not found03:44
freezadoes anyone know how to make an alias to have my eth0 which is my wireless to go to wlan0?03:44
xnitexokay either way03:44
xnitexits opened now03:44
intelikey!worksforme | Chemicalvamp03:44
ubotuChemicalvamp: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:44
xnitexnow what chemical?03:44
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Chemicalvampopen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it, click paste and copy the link here and show it to us03:45
taz_Hello. I'm new Linux user and I'm looking for a full transparency shell.03:45
Chemicalvampi agree with intelikey . im new didnt know thanks intelikey03:45
Yorokobim4ntis, try ' ls /boot/grub' is there a stage1 there ? i03:45
m4ntiswell that may be a problem...."no such directory"03:46
Yorokobitaz_, if you have beryl up and running you can use konsole-alpha or tweak beryl to give the same effect to yukuake03:46
m4ntismaybe the isntall didn't work right03:46
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Chemicalvampbut paste the sorces.list in that site and click paste, and give us the link03:47
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xnitexdude i pasted the error in here chemicalvamp without having to use that03:47
taz_Yorokobi: Erf... Does beryl need lot of RAM?03:47
xnitexand i dont even know what syntax to use03:47
Yorokobim4ntis, yeah. No /boot/grub is not good unless you're using a different boot loader (LILO ??)03:47
intelikeyChemicalvamp welcome.    saves trying to sort out the problems with permissions if you don't tell them to do things that will muck up perms.   less stress for all.03:47
xnitexIM A NEWBIE?03:47
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flaccidi have permission denied/cannot access my optical drive, what should i do03:47
Yorokobitaz_, it needs a decent video card03:47
intelikeyflaccid what is the fs on it ?03:47
Chemicalvampxnitex, did you already add the repository for the update?03:47
taz_Yorokobi: I have ATI Radeon Xpress200M.03:47
xnitexwhat repository, CHRIST03:48
Yorokobitaz_, you can get a partial transparency with konsole03:48
xnitexI have all the repos in there03:48
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xnitexThe upgrade distro is already to the point of "preparing the upgrade"03:48
flaccidintelikey: it seems that only kde/hald has problems mounting it. doing a mount /media/cdrom0 works as a normal user03:48
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intelikeytaz looked at eterm ?03:48
xnitexand it is fetching and says fetching complete and brings up the error window03:48
taz_Yorokobi: yeah I know03:48
taz_intelikey: nop, only use Konsole03:49
m4ntiswell, let me walk through what I did...I have a partition 20gb partition that I split into a swap and a ext2 partition, then I mounted them as the swap and /, where should I have mounted /boot?03:49
xnitexdo you understand where i'm at now?03:49
LINI_IXhy i cant change my screen resolution pls help me03:49
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m4ntisbecause I'm guessing that's what happened03:49
YorokobiEterm's transparency is similar to konsole's except that eterm has a harder time keeping up with changes to the desktop background03:49
Chemicalvampwich repository did you use?03:49
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xnitexthe ones you all told me to03:50
intelikeyflaccid sorry then i might be able to help with the other end but kde is more than i care to try to learn...      "dog too old to learn new tricks."03:50
xnitex?03:50
kaiIm using ktorrent I'm having a seeding issue03:50
Chemicalvampi didnt get that error, but i used the correct repo03:50
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Yorokobim4ntis, /boot should be created with /03:50
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Chemicalvampthere are three choices on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade03:50
kaiI have all my ports opnede and everything is there anything I might be missing03:50
xnitexwhy dont you tell me again that i should delete every repo03:50
xnitexand just give me the repo i need thats the "correct" one03:50
Chemicalvampyou ony need one03:50
xnitexsince i guess the upgrade distro03:50
xnitexand all that is WRONG03:50
m4ntisweird...is there any way to go about redoing that without messing with the entire install?03:50
xnitexsince its already fetching03:51
Chemicalvampnotice the or:03:51
xnitexand all of that?03:51
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xnitexhrm? whats the correct and ONLY repo i need in the list then chemical i'm sorry for being so frustrated03:51
xnitexits just really pissing me off03:51
Chemicalvampwhats your archeticture? pentium or amd03:52
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xnitexpentium03:52
Chemicalvampok then you need i38603:52
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Yorokobim4ntis, what happens when you run sudo update-grub ?03:52
xnitexokay well i dont think any of you are understanding me03:53
xnitexi'm using adept03:53
xnitexand i only need to have the gb repo active03:53
xnitexand disable every other one?03:53
xnitexmaybe that will work?03:53
m4ntisno grub directory found and the commands to install/create03:53
ufo_How can i know where is configurated the modem usb?03:53
ufo_tty003:53
ufo_tty103:53
Sneakhey guys, i'm trying to ./configure an app but i'm getting "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" not sure exactly what i'm missing03:53
ufo_etc etc03:53
intelikey!patience03:54
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:54
Chemicalvampso your only added repository should be "deb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ (next field) /03:54
Yorokobim4ntis, how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub ??03:54
flaccidintelikey: i dunno br0. i think the problem is kubuntu but yeah03:54
YorokobiChemicalvamp, that's the AMD 64 repo, not the i38603:54
LINI_IXis there anybody who can help me here03:54
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Chemicalvampack your right03:55
m4ntisYorokobi:  didn't appear to do anything03:55
xnitexokay so which repo?03:55
xnitexaahaha03:55
Chemicalvampdeb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ (next field) /03:55
xnitexhttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?03:55
intelikeyflaccid ummm if you can mount it from the command line without issue but kde (kioslave) is not working for you... it's ubuntu yeah but it's in the kde department.  not in the kernel/fs/base_system   department.03:56
Yorokobim4ntis, I don't know03:56
Chemicalvampdont use http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, you should use archectecture specific03:56
m4ntisyorokobi:  fair enough, do you think I should mess with trying to manually install grub?03:57
intelikeyLINI_IX did you reconfigure xorg ?03:57
YorokobiLINI_IX, when you click on Kmenu -> System Settings -> Monitor & Display then Administrator mode you should be able to change the resolution03:57
Yorokobi!fixres | LINI_IX03:57
ubotuLINI_IX: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:57
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Yorokobim4ntis, that's up to you. I'd back up everything you need first though :)03:58
SneakCan anyone tell me what i'm missing to fix a "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" error when configuring apps03:58
YorokobiSneak, what are you trying to compile ?03:58
SneaktransKode specifically03:59
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esaymwhat protocol and cipher uses the least amount of cpu cycles?03:59
flaccidintelikey: i don't think its that easily abstracted. ubuntu userland could be responsible because i have no problem on same box with freebsd and kde same kde version03:59
flaccid!cdrom03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
flaccid!hald04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
flaccidah well04:00
esaymI can only transfer to a box I have at 1mbs because the cpu is maxed....04:00
YorokobiSneak, have you read through http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?Building_Transcode04:00
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flaccidintelikey: i'll see if #kde can shed light thanks br004:00
m4ntisoh well, I may try a reinstall, I have the time to blow :)  thanks anyway yorokobi04:01
Yorokobim4ntis, if you do, create a 100MB ext3 partition specifically for /boot04:01
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intelikeyflaccid sorry i can't do anything to really help there...04:01
Sneakthats a different transcode Yorokobi :)04:01
Sneaki'm trying to configure transKode with a K04:01
m4ntisyorokobi:  is there a large difference between ext2 and ext3?04:02
SneakI'm assuming i'm missing something in general to ./configure applications04:02
Yorokobijournaling v non-journaling04:02
ufo_why modem is busy on tty0-1-2-304:02
ufo_?04:02
ufo_help me!04:02
Chemicalvamp!helpme04:03
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:03
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Yorokobiufo_, tty1-12 is the local tty, not a modem04:03
intelikey!b-e | Sneak04:03
ubotuSneak: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:03
Yorokobia USB modem might be /dev/usb???04:03
intelikey!modem04:04
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto04:04
Sneakthere we go, intelikey always comes through ;)04:04
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taz_when I open Konqueror, I see /home and /media only. Where are /bin, /etc, /usr  etc etc?04:05
tarelerulzHow would you set up a twm session?04:05
Yorokobitaz_, type /etc or /bin in the location bar04:06
ufo_if i use /dev/usb it can't find the directory!!!04:06
ufo_and so?04:06
Sneakyay for build-essential, I always forget to install that, thanks :)04:06
taz_Yokorobi : arf :/04:06
tarelerulzI just see home and media too04:06
intelikeySneak np.04:06
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tarelerulzwhen I go into the konqueror or any file manager04:07
taz_Yorokobi: thanks. Why can't i see them directly?04:07
intelikey!hidden | taz_04:07
ubotutaz_: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:07
YorokobiThere you go ^^04:07
flaccidlol04:07
taz_Aaaahhhh.... moarf04:07
flaccidwhy did they introduce it then04:07
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intelikeyflaccid actually i think that was my fault....04:08
Chemicalvampxnitex, is it working?04:08
taz_To keep noob away from sensitives files I guess04:08
Yorokobithat'd be my guess04:08
intelikeytaz_ yes04:08
flaccidlol04:09
flaccidthats what fs perms/posix is for hehe04:09
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m4ntismy partitions are acting weird now,  I have my 20gb partition, when I partition 18gb for the ext3 it won't let me manipulate the left over portion so I can't make a swap or a /boot partition04:09
Yorokobiand SELinux for those who go through the trouble04:09
taz_erf, can't open internet site with Konqueror now... damn04:10
flaccidi would of thought a firewall for ubuntu would of been a bigger priority04:10
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Yorokobim4ntis, make the small partitions first04:10
intelikeyflaccid i was blabbering about how i had hidden the root fs by ching perms    chmod 751 /   while they were gathering ideas for edgy "before dapper released"   and lo and behold there it is....04:10
intelikeychanging ^04:10
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flaccidah fair enough04:11
intelikeyflaccid firewall ?   linux has one.  called iptables   built into the kernel04:11
flaccidi know04:11
intelikeydid you mean a configurator ?04:11
flaccidubuntu installer doesn't ask if you want it does it? ie. no firewall by default on ubuntu04:11
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intelikeyno firewall needed by default.   no services running04:12
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utnubukmy screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick04:12
flaccidsecurity engineers would disagree with you on that04:12
Yorokobiflaccid, not like RHEL/CentOS/FC5|6, no04:12
hitmanWillyflaccid: try lokkit04:12
utnubukanybody else run into a similar problem?04:12
flaccidi'm just saying ubuntu has no firewall native/default04:13
flaccidi do know how to configure a firewall..04:13
m4ntisyorokobi:  doesn't resolve the problem the second chunk won't give me the option to edit it04:13
intelikeyflaccid security engineers would disagree with making a root jr. account and calling it safer than a root password too...04:13
m4ntiswould being a primary partion be the problem?04:13
Yorokobim4ntis, maybe ... this is why I don't like the gui installer :)04:14
m4ntishaha, I'd be up for non-gui, but I'm a total newbie04:14
intelikeyflaccid heh could do an iptables reject all  by default...  :)04:14
Yorokobiintelikey, that'd be bad04:15
Yorokobi:)04:15
intelikeyYorokobi it'd be safe04:15
Yorokobibut bad04:15
Yorokobiunless ESTABLISHED rules were in place04:15
flaccidyes ubuntu is not exactly a security related distro04:15
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taz_Could someone tell me how to see hidden files and directories? (can't connect to any site, don't know why)04:15
intelikeysafty is normally bad   in a very general sense04:15
hitmanWillyjust unplug your network cable, thats the safest of all04:16
hitmanWilly:)04:16
pagansmindls -a04:16
Yorokobitaz_ in konqueror or konsole ?04:16
intelikeyhitman yep no box is safe if it's pluged in (or ran on battery)04:17
taz_Yorokobi: in konqueror04:17
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Yorokobitaz_, click on View then Show Hidden Files04:17
intelikeytaz_ in konqueror's menu ^04:17
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pollyointelikey: So solar power is secure? <grin>04:17
intelikeytaz_ they are not hidden from the konsole tho04:17
taz_Yorokobi: grmf, I saw it earlier and I did't remember where04:18
intelikeypollyo as long as it's dark.  </grin>04:18
pollyolol04:18
m4ntisI think I'm going to boot into windows and partition magic it04:18
soulriderhi everyone :)04:18
m4ntisthanks again yorokobi :)04:18
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Yorokobisorry m4ntis its not usually so difficult04:18
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m4ntisyea, it was really easy last time, which is why I was so perplexed.  Oh well...I'm patient04:19
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YorokobiOf course, Yorokobi has more experience installing RHEL/CentOS than Kubuntu ... disk partitioning is more flexible with those installers04:19
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taz_Free from windows.... yahaaaa!!!04:20
SesshoumaruYorokobi can you tell me how to compile a wifi driver?04:20
Yorokobioy04:20
intelikeyflaccid ubuntu is a little like M$ Windows (R)  in that respect.  by default, it's not nearly as secure as it can be.   the user is "expected" to add security measures that parallel their needs.04:20
Sesshoumarui'm about free from M$   :)04:20
pollyoDo they have a voice recognition program for kde?04:20
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YorokobiWhat wifi card/chipset do you have Sesshoumaru ?04:20
tarelerulzI have the mplayer plugin for firefox and it does not play all the file mplayer covers04:21
soulridertaz_: being free form widnows is the best!!04:21
SesshoumaruYorokobi: Belkin F5D7000.. i already have the correct driver. but i have to compile it04:21
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intelikeybeing free from M$ and all non-free code   is the best.04:21
soulriderintelikey: its still really secure though IMHO04:21
flaccidintelikey: yeah its in oxymoron, however ubuntu goals are not really that clear04:22
tarelerulzIt gives me the option to save it to the hard drive04:22
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you've confirmed this with Belkin and/or the ubuntu wiki ?04:22
taz_soulrider: I agree! I just keep it for games04:22
soulridertaz_: like me :P04:22
taz_soulrider: ^^04:22
soulridertaz_: i actually have a 20 GB partition with win just to play Command and Conquer and Lineage II, but with college i dont really have time to play anyore04:22
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SesshoumaruYorokobi: what do you mean?... i have the source code for the correct driver04:23
soulriderright now im using an empty hard drive, which i installed arch on04:23
elitehackerhey i am having problems in decieding wich java files do i use on my "os" and PC?04:23
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soulriderand im trying to figure out how to install xorg and GNOME now :P04:23
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what I mean is, is that chipset supported by the 2.6 kernel?04:23
taz_soulrider: Huuu college.... I'm french, there's not same meaning here.04:23
SesshoumaruYorokobi: er.. i haven't checked,...where can i find out?04:24
soulridertaz_: university, whatever, im busy! :P04:24
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soulrideri wish irssi had a bit more colors :P04:24
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Carutsuby any chance do anyone knows if there's a plugin for Konqueror for mutting flash apps?04:24
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intelikeyflaccid if i understand the origenal goal at all,  the basic plan is to put linux in the list of choices when you go to a site and start to dl something and it says   for   windows 9x,me click here   for windows nt,xp click here   or for mac click here          </end of list>       and in that respect the basic idea is "compeet with M$ for popularity"   which is not the best course imo.04:25
soulriderCarutsu: cant you right click them and disable sounds ?04:25
taz_soulrider : Oh ok.04:25
elitehackerhey which file do i download for my kubuntu Linux RPM or LINUX self extract. i am trying to donwload java04:25
Carutsuelitehacker: wait a second... never tryed04:25
elitehackerheres the link04:25
Yorokobielitehacker, Kubuntu is not RPM friendly04:25
soulriderelitehacker: for the 999999999th time, read the friggin wiki!04:25
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elitehackerhttp://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.co04:25
Carutsuelitehacker: nope04:26
elitehackerwich one thou?04:26
Carutsuelitehacker: doesn't have that option04:26
intelikeybut it's not my distro.  it's marks and his opention trumps mine.04:26
elitehackeri know its not RPM04:26
intelikeyopenion04:26
elitehackerbut theres some there that are x68? when mine is x8604:26
soulriderintelikey: ubuntu is what got me into linux04:26
Jucatoopinion04:26
soulriderlol Jucato04:26
Jucato:)04:26
soulriderhow are you today Jucato  ?04:26
pollyoelitehacker: You still working on java?04:26
elitehackeryes04:27
pollyoelitehacker: Start up adept.04:27
elitehackerlol i got frost to install but it wont open04:27
soulriderpollyo: he wont read the damn wikis!04:27
elitehackerk04:27
intelikeyJucato will you never learn to speek intelikey'ish  ?04:27
elitehackerk i have it started04:27
pollyosoulrider: He will not even listen to suggestions.04:27
soulrideryeah04:27
SesshoumaruYorokobi: what program can i compile this with?04:27
Jucatopollyo, elitehacker: unless you are on Feisty *do not* install Java using Adept04:27
elitehackerhey i have adept strated04:27
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elitehackerwhats feisty?04:28
pollyoelitehacker: :click VIEW04:28
Jucato!java | elitehacker04:28
ubotuelitehacker: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:28
YorokobiSesshoumaru, where'd you get the driver from ?04:28
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soulriderJucato: this has been going on for the last 36 hours04:28
intelikey!feisty > elitehacker04:28
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SesshoumaruYorokobi: http://madwifi.org04:28
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soulriderJucato: we already gave him all sort of links to wikis about installing software, package management, but he wont listen to suggestions or anything04:28
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pollyoelitehacker: Did you click View?04:28
elitehackeryes but the wont work04:28
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i think i get a deb04:28
elitehackeryes04:28
pollyoelitehacker: : What were the options?04:29
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soulriderok, im gonna go try to install xorg, bbl! :P04:29
elitehackerwhy are u giving me links to beta version?04:29
pollyoelitehacker: What were the options when you clicked view?04:29
taz_because feisty is in beta version04:29
elitehackeron what i am just veiwing the first link about the ubuntu fourms04:29
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taz_release is... 14 of april (?)04:30
YorokobiSesshoumaru, that's an Atheros-based card. It should work out of the box (no compiling necessary)04:30
pollyoelitehacker: I was discussing adept.  I thought you said you had started it.04:30
elitehackeryeah04:30
pollyoelitehacker: Ok then... What are the options under the VIEW option?04:30
elitehackeri did but then i closed becuase u sayed i needed fiesty but i dont so u told me not to install java threw adept04:30
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soulriderdamn, xorg is onlt 23mB ?04:31
pollyoelitehacker: I never said feisty.  That was someone else in the room suggesting feisty.04:31
elitehackerohh lol04:31
pollyoelitehacker: At the very least they were discussing it.04:31
elitehackerk i will start it again04:31
intelikeysoulrider xorg is not that big is it?  you must mean x + it's deps ???04:31
elitehackeris it true there is no viruses for kubuntu?04:31
soulriderintelikey: yeah04:31
soulriderintelikey: a craplaod pf packages actually04:32
pollyoelitehacker: Stick to one concern at a time please.04:32
elitehackerlol i have it opend04:32
soulriderlol pollyo04:32
Yorokobielitehacker, someone wrote a virus for linux years ago but it won't work now.04:32
pollyoelitehacker: Ok.  What did it show when you clicked VIEW04:32
Jucatopollyo: you can modify the sources.list from Adept. but do not install Java through adept. you won't be able to accept the license agreement in Adept04:32
Jucatojust a note as you walk him through it. good luck04:32
intelikeySize: 3529126 soulrider04:32
elitehackershow package list show last download04:33
intelikey3.5M04:33
pollyoJucato: I just want to have him extend the Sources using the GUI04:33
soulriderwe need to modify konversation so that when grammar starts getting terrible, it zaps people through their keyboards :P04:33
elitehackershow dpkg run04:33
flaccidouch04:33
flaccidthat hurt04:33
soulriderintelikey: thats tiny!04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)04:33
flaccidsorry i'm testing a konversation zap beta04:33
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pollyosoulrider: I could have used that when I was a kid.  You can not teach an old dog new tricks.04:33
elitehackeri have great grammar unlike some ppl its like giberish04:33
xnitexin adept distibution upgrade why does it say this error and how can i fix it? Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/Release Unable to find expected entry  [WWW] /binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)04:33
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pollyoelitehacker: Click VIEW and then Manage Repositories04:34
soulriderelitehacker: thats what they tell you :P04:34
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what was reporting the signal strength?04:34
intelikeythat's it's size   plus a few k of modules for your kb and mouse and vidio card.  about 4M in all.04:34
Sesshoumaru Yorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away04:34
SesshoumaruYorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)04:34
elitehackeralll rite i did04:34
philphotoany reliability problems with feisty?04:34
pollyoelitehacker: What happened after you did that?04:34
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elitehackerits shows faded txt comment## inuvirse will not recive and all that04:35
soulriderintelikey: the binaries in the arch repos are 23mB total which i find 100% acceptable :P04:35
soulriderJucato: indeed :P04:35
flaccidintelikey: heh i found the bug for cdrom i think. kde wants to mount as /media/dvdrecorder which does not exist04:35
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elitehackerhey now what do i do pollyo04:35
intelikeyflaccid hmmm is it actually a burner ?04:35
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what was reporting the signal strength?04:35
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flaccidyeah04:35
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soulriderthis is funny, i have an ATA hard drive, and its appearing as 'sda'04:36
flaccidhmm still say 'Permissions denied'04:36
pollyoelitehacker: Did a window titled Software Sources open?04:36
Sesshoumarulike 30-40 a foot away from the router04:36
elitehackerno..nothing04:36
tarelerulzin firefox I seem to have the option to change what it use to open file to out side program04:36
intelikeyflaccid ;/04:36
pollyoelitehacker: Do you see "Software Sources" listed in the bar at the bottom of the screen?04:36
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what reported the signal strength?04:36
tarelerulzI don't have the option to change it so all media is play with mplayer plugin04:37
Sesshoumarui just told you04:37
flaccidintelikey: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=7nW&q=kde+%22permissions+denied%22+cdrom&btnG=Search04:37
intelikeyi think i'll install debian so i can be leet.04:37
SesshoumaruYorokobi, he signal is crap04:37
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you told me what the signal strength was but not what reported it04:37
elitehackerpollyo: cant we just share dsktop and u can see what i see instead of talking it would be alot simpler04:37
utnubukmy screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick04:37
soulriderintelikey: i jave a question, when someone pastes a link here on IRC, how do you copy it so you can open it up on links or some browser in another console ?04:37
pollyoelitehacker: It is bad enough I am attempting to spoon feed you.04:37
Sesshoumarureported.. how do i find that out? lol04:37
utnubukanybody else run into a similar problem?04:37
YorokobiSesshoumaru, kwifimanager ? knetworkmanager? wlassistant?04:38
taz_Is it easy to change KDE env. for Gnome?04:38
flaccidintelikey: maybe this http://archive.kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=125156 but tis a dif distro04:38
pollyoelitehacker: If you want me to login to your desktop you are going to have to change your screen name.04:38
intelikeysoulrider gpm.04:38
soulriderintelikey: youre more than leet :P you dont have xorg (or was that comment sarcastic?)04:38
elitehackerpollyo: why?04:38
intelikeyflaccid k looking.04:38
elitehackerpollyo: cuz it says hacker?04:38
pollyoelitehacker: Elitehackers do not have people remote login to configure the system.04:38
Sesshoumarui have kwifimanager04:38
intelikeysoulrider no it's not crsksm04:39
utnubuklmao04:39
soulriderpollyo: i dont think he is either elite, nor hacker04:39
Sesshoumaruthe card isn't currently in right now04:39
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elitehackerpollyo: i know but i wouldnt do anything if i cant even install java if it was windows then that would be diff.04:39
soulriderintelikey: uhm, ok04:39
soulriderelitehacker: you cant install anything because you dont want to read anything or listen to anything04:39
YorokobiSesshoumaru, how is it you're getting a signal strength with no wifi card in use?04:39
intelikeyand no login either.   "that doesn't mean just autologin,  it means that login is not at all possable piriod"04:40
SesshoumaruYorokobi: LOL.. i just took it out like 5 mins ago04:40
soulriderbesides, your "you copy windows" and "im only gonna use linux for a week, then go back to win" comments werent helpful at all.04:40
elitehackerpollyo: yeah true but since i know windows to good i think of linux as windows (BAD IDEA) and rush evreything04:40
Yorokobioh04:40
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pollyoelitehacker: Ok.  Click VIEW and then Manage repository and tell me what it does again?04:40
elitehackerit shows lists of comments04:40
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elitehackercomment## followed buy random things04:40
pollyoelitehacker: Tell me what is on the bar above View.04:41
elitehackeri can add a new repo or reset or apply on the bottom04:41
intelikeyflaccid heh you did see the  "be sure there is nothing in fstab about the cdrom" didn't you ?    just a thought.04:41
YorokobiSesshoumaru, so aside from the reportedly low signal strength, your wifi works ?04:41
elitehackerit says FETCH UPDATES or PREVIEW CHANGES and the rest is faded out so i cant click on it04:42
intelikeyi have three boot loaders installed.04:42
pollyoelitehacker: Look above those things...04:42
Jucatopollyo: he's seeing the old (pre-feisty) manage repositories window04:42
SesshoumaruYorokobi, uhh no04:42
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pollyoelitehacker: Above "Fetch Updates" , "Preview Changes"... That is where Adept, Edit, View is....04:42
SesshoumaruYorokobi, thats why i wanted a clean driver04:42
elitehackeryeah04:42
pollyoelitehacker: I asked what was above view and you told me "Fetch Updates"04:43
elitehackerpollyo: so now what04:43
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pollyoelitehacker: That is below View.04:43
elitehackerohhh04:43
elitehackerno04:43
YorokobiSesshoumaru, not working at all or not working well enough ?04:43
elitehackernothing just the title bar04:43
pollyoelitehacker: You are beyond my help.04:43
pollyoelitehacker: You will have to find a fellow Elite hacker.04:43
pollyoelitehacker: Good day and Good luck.04:44
elitehackerit shows the title bar ADEPT MANAGER04:44
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i never got internet connection yet it did say it was connected04:44
pollyoelitehacker: Friend.  I can not help you.04:44
soulrideri dont know why, but i feel like i already seen thise lines before pollyo04:44
Jucatolooks like someone gave up too...04:44
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Yorokobielitehacker, skip adept. open konsole and sudo apt-get install synaptic and use that (or use dselect in the terminal)04:44
pollyosoulrider: I didn't believe in ADD medication before today.04:45
elitehackerwont work tried04:45
Jucatoyay! another one to add in to the confusion :)04:45
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soulriderpollyo: theres ADD medication ?04:45
YorokobiSesshoumaru, remind me ... edgy or feisty ?04:45
soulridermy english teacher said i had ADD, and she was kidna right04:45
Yorokobior dapper?04:45
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pollyosoulrider: ADHD and ADD medications.04:45
SesshoumaruYorokobi, edgy 6.1004:45
soulriderwhats ADHD ?04:45
Jucatopollyo: fwiw, what you were looking for, the "Software Sources" window, is only something that is Feisty.04:45
flaccidintelikey: yeah thats what i'm trying now after i get off the phone04:45
Jucatoand since he's on Edgy, he won't see it04:45
elitehackeru sayed what was above VIEW??? obv the title bar??? like what else is supposed to be there?04:45
pollyosoulrider: I couldn't tell you what they stand for exactly.04:46
soulriderk\04:46
intelikeyJucato do my eyes decieve me ?    are you heckeling ?04:46
elitehackeris there a rainbow i click on and java installs?04:46
pollyoJucato: Really...04:46
flaccidintelikey: bbl i'll let you know04:46
intelikeyflaccid k04:46
Jucatopollyo: yes. and I think I've mentioned that 2x already...04:46
YorokobiSesshoumaru, is knetworkmanager installed?04:46
pollyoJucato: OH my... My comment stands... He needs an Elite hacker type to help him.04:46
Jucatosoulrider: Attention-deficit Hyperactivity disorder btw04:47
soulriderpollyo: is that what you call miracles ?04:47
pollyoJucato: Thank you.04:47
SesshoumaruYorokobi, no04:47
bogdanhello, do you know when Feisty will be officialy released, I know that it's in April, but I don't know the day, thnks04:47
soulriderJucato: i SO have that! :P the only thing i can concentrate on is my computer, and not for that long actually04:47
Jucatobogdan: schedule says April 19. but 20+ might be a good estimate too04:47
elitehackeri only got this installed 2days ago i obv dont know what everything is i use this as a backup os04:47
intelikeyhe is heckeling....  tisk tisk04:47
Jucatosoulrider: yeah I think I have that,... ooh pretty wallpaper04:47
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soulriderJucato: i dont realize, but someimtes i keep opening and closing the same window04:48
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SesshoumaruYorokobi, i'll install knetworkmanager now04:48
bogdanJucato: thanks04:48
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soulriderlike, i look at my buddy list from kopete, close it and re open it agan just to read it04:48
Jucato:)04:48
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soulriderlike 2 years ago my teacher said i had ADD, i kind of ignored her, but now when i try to study i realize how right she was04:49
soulriderintelikey: i dont driver04:49
soulriderdrive*04:49
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soulriderbut thats mainly because i cant see crap04:49
elitehackerso why do i open VIEW manage reposistories in adept when i need java? :s04:49
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soulriderand because i know im allways too distracted to drive04:49
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intelikeysoulrider good on ya then.04:50
intelikeysoulrider cause i walk,  and i really don't like getting ran over.04:50
Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: gee, probably to enable the repositories you need to install java.04:50
soulriderintelikey: i just take the bus everywhere, although i tend to miss osme busses ebcause i cant rea the numbers until its too late :P04:50
soulriderint i walk a lot too04:50
elitehackeryeah so why did pollyo tell me to do that then u tell me help" that doesnt help then i get comments form otehr ppl tell the first person that ur help was no good :S COnfusion04:51
soulrider!installing | elitehacker04:51
ubotuelitehacker: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues04:51
soulrider!repos | elitehacker04:51
ubotuelitehacker: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:51
soulriderafter you read all that, ill help you04:51
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intelikeyok we're off topic and jucato will be....     well, Jucato  :)04:51
Daisuke_Idonot exactly the most descriptive of nicks, i take it?04:52
soulriderlol intelikey, he was offtopic himself though04:52
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Jucatoelitehacker: because you've already been given instructions to read and follow. if you read and follow them carefully, you will have already solved your problem04:52
intelikeyssshhh04:52
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intelikeywould have04:52
soulriderhahaha intelikey, youre gonna piss him off :P04:53
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Jucato:P04:53
intelikey:)04:53
sketchb0xim trying to run ubuntu on a laptop as a server, how do i turn off the suspend feature so i can close the laptops lcd04:53
soulriderJucato's grammar is failing!!04:53
Jucatonah. he already did that last month04:53
intelikeymess with my spelling04:53
intelikey:)04:53
Jucatooh, it's a new month!04:53
sketchb0xany idears would help alot.04:53
sketchb0xim almost done!04:53
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elitehackeryes but ppl give me help rite i follow it blah blah blah i read and stuff then someone says in order to do that uneed java WELL NO DUH i need java in the first place so then i follow them in then i get lost in between04:53
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Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: i told you you needed the repositories to INSTALL java.  read what people tell you.04:54
LeeJunFansketchb0x: see the little green battery in the tray? click it - bottom option - when lid is closed - do nothing.04:54
Daisuke_Idoagain, not a descriptive nick :\04:54
intelikeysketchb0x there should be info on the forums about how to enable it    the reverse might work.04:54
soulriderlol Daisuke_Ido04:54
sketchb0xits ubuntu-server04:54
sketchb0xso i have no gui04:54
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LeeJunFansketchb0x: oh, you need to edit powernowd settings then.04:54
soulridersketchb0x: does it suspend or you ahvnt tried it, also, why would you use a laptop as a server ?04:55
intelikeysketchb0x is powernowd  what watches that ?04:55
intelikeyerr LeeJunFan ^04:55
vit_hey como hago para correr un editor de php?!!04:55
sketchb0xits an old laptop04:55
elitehackerk i red the link u gave me04:55
sketchb0xsmall footprint04:55
Daisuke_Ido!es | vit_04:55
ubotuvit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:55
soulrider!es | vit_04:55
sketchb0xampache music server04:55
sketchb0xits gonna be hiding behind my entertainment center04:55
LeeJunFanintelikey: well, maybe I thought it was installed on feisty but I'm not seeing the usual configs.04:55
sketchb0x:)04:56
LeeJunFansketchb0x: what version of ubuntu you using?04:56
Yorokobisketchb0x, I'll sell you my dual PIII 700MHz 1U server :)04:56
elitehackernow how do i enable java in the main res. when a java site is not in the screen?04:56
LeeJunFanintelikey: doh, I was thinking powersaved. heheh04:56
utnubukomg04:56
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sketchb0xhow much yorokobi?04:56
sketchb0xand what are its dimensions?04:57
elitehackerk i am installing updates04:57
sketchb0xim using dapper04:57
sketchb0xbtw04:57
Daisuke_Idoi think i just peed myself04:57
Yorokobisketchb0x, 1U high, full length (not by Dell's standard)04:57
elitehackeri am using adept i went to main repos. and enabled the ones with dapper now i clicked fecth updates hopefully this will auto update java for me04:58
Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: did you read the material posted for you?04:58
LeeJunFansketchb0x: trying to remember dappers power control, I think the standard on that was powersaved, see if you have /etc/powersaved - in there you'll find the configs you need to edit for acpi events.04:58
Daisuke_Idobecause...  you're just not getting it.04:58
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elitehackerDaisuke_Ido: what materials the links then yes i did....04:59
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sketchb0xive got an /etc/acpi04:59
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utnubukmy screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick05:01
pollyo!xen05:01
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy05:01
utnubukanybody else run into a similar problem?05:01
pollyoAnyone using Xen?05:01
morticihow do i add my self to a group?05:01
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taz_utnubuk : maybe ur graphic card does not support ur screen saver05:02
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emostar_well.05:03
utnubuktaz_: i dont think thats it, if i click on 'test' the screensaver works fine05:03
emostar_i installed feisty kubuntu05:03
ffffuis there a GUI app for resizing partitions etc?05:03
emostar_and when it mounts my ntfs directories it complains that its not ntfs 3 and turns off sparse file creation05:03
emostar_!_! how can i fix that05:03
soulriderffffu: try qtparted or gparted05:03
utnubuktaz_: i even set the time to just one minute so i could make sure it works, and nothing happens when one minute is up.05:03
taz_utnubuk : can't help you :/05:04
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ffffuis it possible to resize my ext3 partition?05:04
sketchb0xLeeJunFan: how much?05:04
soulriderffffu: i think si05:04
utnubuktaz_: cool thanks for offering up some advid05:04
soulriderso*05:04
utnubukadvice*05:04
sketchb0xLeeJunFan: and how much ram?05:04
elitehackerany one have x-link kai working on linux?05:05
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elitehackerhey does anyone have X-LINK kai'd on Kubuntu?05:06
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utnubukelitehacker: no.05:07
elitehackerhave u heard of it?05:08
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=== intelikey would install gentoo again but i don't want a gui
elitehackerhow old is every one in here?05:10
elitehackerim prb the youngest one lmao05:10
Daisuke_Idothat question is completely irrelevant05:10
elitehacker14!!!05:10
peanutbsorry i win, im 1305:10
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soulriderintelikey: i tried installing gentoo, but almost died :P05:10
elitehackeryeah notice how its only a year off lol IM FROM CANADA05:11
pollyoI see they did change adept a bit now that I am looking at how to change repositories on the older version.05:11
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soulriderintelikey: right now im installing arch, theres a hard drive i need to test so i figured i would try somehting new while on it05:11
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elitehackerseee ppl flip out on me for something abouta program when the tell me directions to a program that i dont have05:11
intelikeyelitehacker 345 * 25 = 8625    so every one here is  8625 years old or there about.05:11
PersonANewbie to linux/ubuntu in general,. Looking for a lil help with an nvidia gefore 5200 video card. Installing of the updated drivers. Already downloaded. And running america's army. Already downloaded and installed.05:11
Daisuke_Idono one "flipped out on you"05:12
elitehackerintelikey: Uhhhh???? what05:12
Chemicalvamp!ati05:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:12
elitehackerwell not flipped out but like gave up and i got frusturated05:12
Daisuke_Idoyou can't follow simple directions.  enable universe.  install java.05:12
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intelikeysoulrider sounds like a plan man.05:12
elitehackeryeah but they wont give me rite links or eplain stuff that works on my PC and OS not theres05:13
PersonAty for the help url.. reading05:13
taz_I'm only 10100 years old05:13
pollyoelitehacker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:13
pollyoCan't get more specific then that.05:13
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soulriderintelikey: youre gonna try arch out ?05:13
soulriderthe base CD doesnt even come with xorg05:13
elitehackeri have it now that i followed myy instructions05:13
soulriderperfect for you :P05:13
intelikeysoulrider no.  dial up.   not likely that i'll be "trying anything out"    :)05:14
soulriderim 10010 years old05:14
elitehackerwow i gotta go to bed i have school in the morning05:14
soulriderintelikey: youre on dial-up?! really?! isnt it really expensive?05:14
PersonAI must say.. I love Ubuntu over windoze already !05:14
soulriderPersonA: damn right!05:14
taz_Arf we can manage repo in adept.... always edit sources.list with kate -_-05:15
pollyoPersonA: I enjoy it though there are some difficulties that I am encountering.05:15
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PersonAI'm quite sure you will overcome those issues however pollyo !05:15
pollyoPersonA: I doubt it (at least in the near future)05:16
PersonAI am in learning phase now.05:16
PersonAAh05:16
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pollyoPersonA: Somethings that Linux just doesn't have support for as of yet.05:16
Daisuke_Idopollyo: what difficulties?05:16
soulriderPersonA: yeah, but youll get used in no time05:16
PersonANo doubt05:16
pollyoPersonA: :Thought overall I am VERY pleased with Linux.05:16
PersonASame here pollypo05:16
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soulrider<3 Linux05:17
PersonATons more stable for me. And easier to install05:17
Daisuke_Idothere's nothing i can do in windows (that i would normally do anyway) than i can't do in linux05:17
soulrideryeah!05:17
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soulriderwhen i isnatll linux05:17
PersonAAs cheesy as it sounds. I mainly wanna chat and surf. And play AA05:17
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: The main problem being lack of support for a Lexmark X6170.  Lexmark makes Linux Driver Development Kit but no one appears to make use of it.05:17
soulrideri dont need to install 30 additional programs just to do basic stuff05:17
Daisuke_Idoooh05:17
soulrideri dont have to worry about spy/malware, viruses an stuff like that05:17
Daisuke_Idoyeah, lexmarks aren't the nicest printers in linux05:17
soulriderits stable, secure, doesnt get slow with time05:17
PersonAYeah soulrider... that's my main reason i liked ubuntu05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Go out and pick up a printer that you want to use for windows, a video card, an IPOD, without checking compatibility lists and you will run into trouble.05:18
soulriderits just easy!05:18
Daisuke_Idobut to be perfectly honest, you're better off buying an HP or something.  the ink tends to be cheaper, and better upport :)05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Will not run into trouble.05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Though on linux you have to check lists.05:18
Daisuke_Idoi didn't check any on this one05:18
crazy_busI'm trying to install something with checkinstall but I get this error "dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `/var/tmp/iAAJPAGPrXfmDSqfPQJAS/package/DEBIAN/control' near line 8 package `trunk':newline in field name `1.5'"05:18
soulrideractually, i can say my hardware works better in Linux than in windows05:18
Daisuke_Idoi just got *really* lucky05:18
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soulriderand its the truth, im not exagerating05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Don't get me wrong.  I think Linux is amazing,05:18
soulriderelitehacker os finaly gone!05:19
Daisuke_Idolike my wireless.  i just happened to have replaced a broadcom with an rt2500 about 3 weeks before going to linux05:19
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: I hear people say that but I noticed they have driver kits.  I never see people reference how difficult the development kit is.,,, Only that they do not have great support.05:19
Daisuke_Idosoulrider: thank god.05:19
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soulrideryeah05:20
soulriderhe should be spanked05:20
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: . o 0 The room cheers...05:20
hitmanWillyyeah05:20
taz_Is someone get a Broadcom wlan car and using aircrack?05:20
Daisuke_Idomay i speak very frankly and not at all flatteringly05:20
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: When Linux finally gets mass driver support it will be great!05:21
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Well amazing... It is great now.05:21
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soulridermy audio works a lot better in linux without drivers than it does in windows with drivers that only work for SP205:21
soulriderand my webcam rarely works in windows, it works out of the box in linux05:21
pollyosoulrider: I have a HP 712c that prints better in windows.  The linux drivers just aren't that great for this printer.05:22
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Daisuke_Idoi love the fact that more and more people are migrating to linux to get away from windows.  but i had a hard enough time explaining how to use the start menu to these people in windows, explaining the repositories and such is a nightmare and makes lesser men cry05:22
ricgood night05:22
soulriderlol Daisuke_Ido05:22
taz_lol05:22
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: <grin>05:23
ricbuenas05:23
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Daisuke_Idofeisty is a step in the right direction with having universe enabled by default05:23
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Repositories are much easier then when I looked at Linux 10 years ago...05:23
Daisuke_Idopollyo: oh god yes, but still not ready for the influx of technologically paralyzed "05:24
Daisuke_Idotypical windows users05:24
Daisuke_Idomeh, dumb enter key05:24
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: It has come a long way and needs a good amount more done.  Great work so far though.05:24
Daisuke_Idoas i see it now, linux serves two groups extremely well05:24
Daisuke_Ido1) the tech savvy, that goes without saying.05:25
taz_savvy?05:25
Daskreechsaviie?05:25
pollyotaz_: It is a tech term. <grin>05:25
VR_savvy is right05:26
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DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: repos aren't that hard once you understand open source05:26
Daisuke_Ido2) the completely clueless.  those that see a computer as the web and email (say, grandma.)05:26
Daskreechsince most people understand support05:26
taz_Ok. I'm here to : 1) find some help 2) practice my english ^^05:26
Daskreechtaz_: i can help with one05:26
Daskreechunless it's pyshlogical help05:26
Daskreech i need that too05:26
taz_lol05:27
Daisuke_Idothose in the middle -- the windows "knowledgeable" -- can figure out just enough in linux to be dangerous and likely hose their entire system.05:27
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pollyoI wouldn't know without my spell checker.  BTW that is one thing I LOVE about Kubuntu... Just about everywhere I type in KDE it is spellchecking for me.05:27
Daskreechpollyo: you are going to freak over sonnet05:27
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pollyoDaisuke_Ido: I'm n the dangerous realm... <grin>05:28
pollyoDaskreech: Sonnet?05:28
Daisuke_Idopollyo: but you're not.  you ask for help *before* doing something stupid :P05:28
pollyoDaskreech: Thanks... I'm not sure if that is Luck or some type of skill on my part.05:29
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Daskreechhttp://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/01/193523805:29
DaskreechLinux.com | KDE 4's Sonnet will turbocharge language processing for pollya05:29
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: What gets me is something like Yahoo messenger.  Yahoo started out developing a messenger that works for Linux then they drop the ball with future versions.05:30
pollyoDaskreech: Will it check my grammar?05:30
pollyoDaskreech: I need auto correction on that sometime.05:30
Daisuke_Idoi can see how it would go either way.  90% of users are on windows, and it's free05:31
pollyoDaskreech: Checking it now.05:31
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Daisuke_Idowriting it to be portable would be the smart thing, but nooooo05:31
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pollyoWow... Sonnet ...05:32
pollyoWhen will that be out?05:33
taz_question : would x-chat work with KDE?05:33
hitmanWillytaz_: using it in KDE right now05:33
Daisuke_Idointelikey: yahoo messenger's new versions are FOSS?05:33
Daskreechintelikey: yahoo messenger is foss?05:34
taz_hitmanWilly: thanks. :)05:34
intelikeytaz_ the question is not will "blah" work on my desktop environment,  the question is will it work on this system  yes it will05:34
taz_I read somewhere xchat need GTK+ lib05:34
Daisuke_Idotaz_: yes but that doesn't mean you can't use it in kde05:35
Daskreechpollyo: kde405:35
vit_soulrider solo una pregunta y no mas.... como hago para instalar el netbean ya lo tengo descargado ahora debo ejecutarlo pero no se como... solo esa pregunta no mas...05:35
taz_and I don't know if gnome lib and KDE env. can works together  (I'm not sure i'm clear)05:35
Daskreech1es | vit_05:35
Daisuke_Ido!es | vit_05:35
ubotuvit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:35
Daskreech!es | vit_05:35
intelikeyDaskreech and Daisuke_Ido i wasn't talking about some new "yahoo messenger"   just the idea in particular.   made for GNU/linux implies  FOSS  does it not ?05:35
Daskreechdamn I technically won05:35
Daisuke_Idointelikey: nvidia's drivers say no05:35
Daskreechintelikey: since when?05:35
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irahanhi05:36
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jhutchinsYou must first understand the motivations for writing non-free, non-open software, and why this is the default for the industry.05:36
intelikeywell observed.    ok anything shipped with a "GNU/linux" distro would imply that then.   seeing that the gnu-gpl applies to "most if not all" distro's05:37
jhutchinsYou must accept that this is the normal model for ripping off the common shill who thinks he can get something for nothing.05:37
Daskreechintelikey: true but I must have missed when he said it shipped with a distro05:37
intelikeythat's why ubuntu didn't ship with mp3 support05:37
Daisuke_Idognu doesn't apply to a distro05:37
Daskreechtechnically05:37
jhutchinsYou must allow those who are the best at this to continue in their trade.05:37
Daisuke_Idonor does the gpl05:37
Daskreechgnewsense05:38
intelikeyDaskreech i said you were right.  and ammended my rattle05:38
jhutchinsMeanwhile, we may offer a powerfull suite of software for those who are willing to learn to control it, free and open, better than the rest.05:38
DaskreechFOSS always wins in the end05:38
Daskreechwell ... mostly05:38
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DaskreechIt does lose in some areas05:39
Daisuke_Idothe gpl can apply to software included with a distro, of course, but there are a lot of other licenses in wide use too (BSD-style, CC)05:39
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intelikeyDaskreech yeah  the  money game.05:39
jhutchinsfoss is power. Windows is the least common denominator.05:39
jhutchinsWe don't want that.05:39
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Daskreechyea i was trying to explain that to chalmer05:39
jhutchinsWe want the people who think about what they do.05:39
Daskreechor at least understand the non thinking05:39
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jhutchinsWe want linux to be the thinking user's OS.05:40
jhutchinsWe want SOMETHING ELSE to be the idiot's OS.05:40
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intelikeyjhutchins not in ubuntu05:40
jhutchinsSomething else = Windows.05:40
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jhutchinsintelikey: That is a potential problem.05:40
jhutchinsintelikey: Some developers are misguided.05:41
intelikeyjhutchins i agree with the permice but that's debian philosophy  not ubuntu's05:41
jhutchinsGNOME.05:41
Daskreechshut your mouth!05:41
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jhutchinsI want full control of my system.  Linux gives me that.05:42
lovlosswhat should i apt-get for the libraries for QT and freeglut?05:42
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jhutchins!find freeglut05:42
ubotuFound: freeglut3, freeglut3-dbg, freeglut3-dev05:42
fuel!qt05:42
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications05:42
Jucatolovloss: libqt3-mt-dev and freeglut3-dev05:42
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jhutchins!freeglut05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freeglut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
Jucato(presuming you need Qt 3)05:42
lovlosswell ill be!!! thank you05:42
jhutchins!botsnack05:43
ubotuYum!05:43
kalorinok so what is it exactly about the ATI drivers that are such a complete pain in the ass?05:43
Daisuke_Idowell, it's bedtime05:43
kalorinI mean, I'm just trying to do two monitors off the two outputs and make them 1 desktop05:43
jhutchinskalorin: Ah. Erhmn.05:43
kalorinthis should be cake05:43
Daisuke_Idokalorin: they're poorly written and a blight on the face of software development, especially compared to nvidia's offerings05:43
lovlossjust get envy and let it do it for you05:43
kalorinenvy/05:43
lovlossqt3 is good enough. qt4 is still not open source05:44
tarelerulzmadia player that see inside rar so you could see movie broken up to mulitple rars?05:44
Daisuke_Idouh05:44
lovlosskalorin: envy automatically sets up your drivers05:44
Daskreech!botsmack05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
jhutchinskalorin: Well. the thing is, they can't afford to target all 257+ flavors of linus.05:44
Daisuke_Idoqt4 is gpl on all platforms05:44
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BartSimpsonI am getting a bigger hard drive. Currently, I am dual booting kubuntu and windows, with windows on /dev/hda and linux on /dev/hdb. Now, since the hard drive will be bigger, i want to merge my 2 current hard drives on to the bigger one. So the / on linux will become /dev/hda2 instead of hdb1. Where will this create issues that i need to fix? ie which files do i need to change? And my...05:44
BartSimpson.../etc/fstab has a UUID=something for /, will this be affected? I don't know if this is a kubuntu, ubuntu, or linux question, so if I am in the wrong channel can someone point me to the right place?05:44
kalorinjhutchins: I did everything including building the Ubuntu/edgy package and doing all the install stuff05:44
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kalorincompiled fine installed fine05:44
lovlossi think only the not-recent versions are closed source05:44
intelikeykalorin they are writen by M$ ?     no not really  but the same school of thought   "protect our propritary interests"05:44
kalorinI can even do DRI now05:44
lovlossi could be wrong, though. qt3 is fine then05:44
kalorinI see two monitors05:44
DaskreechBartSimpson: lvm?05:45
kalorinI just can't get the 2nd to light up, even in clone mode05:45
wolferineBartSimpson, one part at a time...05:45
kalorinwell it does light up until it gets past the splash screen05:45
Daisuke_Idoqt3 and earlier are closed source on non-*nix platforms05:45
kalorinthen it goes into power savings mode05:45
jhutchinskalorin: Ok, hang in there, maybe about 10 hrs from now...05:45
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Daisuke_Idoqt4 is open all around, meaning easy porting of qt4 apps to windows.  oh joy.05:45
Daisuke_Idonight!05:45
BartSimpsonI what will I need to change to allow for the new drive? I know fstab is one place05:45
lovlossOh. thank you05:45
Daskreechnight05:45
kalorinhe05:45
kalorineh05:45
lovlosswell i guess ill probably need to use four :P05:46
kalorinseems like it's almost displaying both screens out the same output?05:46
lovlossthough id love to be able to pretend windows doesnt exist05:46
wolferineBartSimpson, first, you will lose some data, unless your careful05:46
tarelerulzIf you all want free software to really take off . Get it to as many people as you cand and that my be windows user as well05:46
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wolferineBartSimpson, second, if you add a new drive, you need it in fstab, u will need to mount it05:47
intelikeylovloss windows ?    what windows ?     i don't see any windows here mate.05:47
Daskreechlovloss: It's not that hard once you forget about games05:47
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pollyoI think they need a call your hardware manufacturer day for linux.05:47
lovlossDarkskreech : thats the problem. im hoping to be a game programmer05:47
lovlossand im an addict myself05:47
Daskreechlovloss: join #ps3dev :-)05:48
taz_PS3? yerk05:48
lovlossplaystation 3?05:48
tarelerulzHave you all heard much about the ps3 and linux?05:48
wolferinehow can I check .sfv files?05:48
intelikeylovloss FOSS game programing doesn't pay much.   but it sure would draw the kids to the os.05:48
lovlossim listening05:48
Daskreechtarelerulz: IT works05:48
pollyotarelerulz: Only that Sony locks out much of the hardware functions.05:48
Daskreechwell not much05:48
Daskreechthe video card05:48
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lovlossintelikey: i like game design, its what i enjoy doing05:49
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tarelerulzI read about that myself lame ? sony should go all the way or not at all05:49
DaskreechI'm of the opinion that it's legal :-(05:49
BartSimpsonwolferine: I'm thinking about just adding the new drive in, using qtparted to partition it properly, use a disk cloning program to copy all the partitions, and finally edit the fstab to work appropriatly. then remove the other 2 drives. Is this feasible?05:49
kalorinsony is the m$ of A/V stuff05:49
kalorinhate sony05:49
Daskreechi've spoken to a bunch of PS3 developers and they are confused over it as well05:49
pollyotarelerulz: They make money on selling the machines to people who want to play games.  They only get licensing fees back from developers when people are buying games.05:49
wolferineyou have two other drives?05:49
lovlosssony's complicated. It has so many divisions its ridiculous05:49
Daskreechyeah but at least they let you install linux on their stuff05:49
wolferineor partitions?05:49
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DaskreechThey even have a button for it :-)05:50
soulrideri wanna get a Wii05:50
intelikeyBartSimpson why trubble with making partitions if you are cloning the disk ?05:50
tarelerulzUnless they do something big I don't see the ps3 really doing as well as it should05:50
intelikeyBartSimpson man dd05:50
kkerwinI've noticed that the python-dev package doesn't contain the header files that the description claims to: on both dpkg -L python-dev and in the files listed for the package on the Ubuntu package website, all that are listed are just the python documentation files. Anyone know where I can find python header files?05:50
pollyosoulrider: I tried out the wii just the other day.  It was a neat system.05:50
tarelerulzIf I was them I would take all the help I could05:50
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soulriderpollyo: my friend has one and its so awesome, tons of fun!05:50
pollyotarelerulz: Sony is getting bad press allover.05:51
soulrideri only enjoyed a few PS games05:51
soulridermost of them suck05:51
lovlossI hate them more for their influence on the music industry than anything05:51
tarelerulzI thought it was great to have game system that would run linux easy and no real hacking to do so05:51
soulrideryeah05:51
tarelerulzand playing games too05:51
wolferinehow can I check .sfv files?05:51
pollyotarelerulz: Can its memory be expanded?05:51
BartSimpsonwolferine: I have windows on one drive, linux on the second. I want to get a new, bigger one and merge both on to the one.05:52
lovlossi was really upset when firewall was bought by Sony, and suddenly my favorite bands were owned by the giant05:52
wolferinedrives or partitions?05:52
BartSimpsonintelikey: problem is, I can only use 2 drives at once, so if i wanted to clone both disks into one, how would i do that with dd?05:52
tarelerulzI don't know the specs . It may not need more05:52
DaskreechBartSimpson: that's not that hard05:53
Daskreechit's not that bad05:53
Daskreechlovloss: what kind of games are you trying to make?05:53
BartSimpsonwolferine: I have 2 drives. One has windows, 1 partition. The other has linux, partition1=/, 2="extended", 3=/home, 4=a second ntfs thing for windows, and 5=swap05:53
soulriderdamn, the arch linux repos are so slow!05:53
Daskreechlovloss: or maybe #gametome05:53
DaskreechBartSimpson: what are you going to use the old drives for?05:54
wolferineanswering partition or drive is sufficient05:54
intelikeyBartSimpson  yeah you'd need to make partitions to dd to05:54
lovlossDaskreech: We'll see. Mostly the RPG and Adventuring sort. I do not like working with games that have a worthless story05:54
lovlossDaskreech: I wasnt an english major for 4 years for nothing :P05:55
Daskreechsoooo tetris?05:55
intelikeyBartSimpson you were saying clone the disk  i was thinking you meant clone the disk   my bad.    should have known you meant clone the partitions.05:55
tarelerulzI have heard of some rpg that are open souce05:55
soulriderlovloss: what do you think about the story in metal gear games ?05:55
lovlosslol tetris rules though05:55
taz_raaaahhh Eclipse does'nt work....05:55
soulridertetris is the best game ever05:55
Daskreechlovloss: oh sweet :) I was thinking of a rpg story versioning system two months ago05:55
Daskreech#freedroid-rg05:55
lovlosssoulrider: i only played the first one and i really liked it05:55
BartSimpsonDaskreech: i'm going to put them in another computer or whatever. Since one (windows) is 37 gb, and the other (linux) is 110, I want to move both of them onto one huge one and forget about the others.05:55
Daskreech#freedroidrpg05:55
lovlossDaskreech: thats cool :)05:55
DaskreechBartSimpson: you can dd them05:55
BartSimpsonintelikey: I want to basically clone 2 disks onto one, and still keep the partitions intact05:56
lovlossI was big in the RP servers of Neverwinter Nights for something like 2 years05:56
soulriderintelikey: i havnt had xorg for the last 2 hours and i realise that my computer is still usable! :P05:56
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soulriderintelikey: its a waste to have this computer and not use a WM though05:56
intelikeyBartSimpson can't do that really.   to clone a disk means to make an exact copy.  i.e. same mbr, same partition table, same data,      so that's not what you want.05:57
BartSimpsonDaskreech: but the problem is, that i need to do it one at a time. my computer only has 2 connectors for an hd, so i will need to first clone one, then clone the other onto another partition of the one i just cloned that one.05:57
soulriderintelikey: how long does it take you to compile your kernel05:57
BartSimpsonyeah i might be using the word clone wrong sorry05:57
BartSimpsonintelikey: is "copy" more appropriate?05:57
flaccidintelikey: yeah that article was right. take it out of fstab and its cool. i'll look it at another time in terms of where the fault it05:57
flaccidis05:57
DaskreechBartSimpson: you'd have to cut up the new drive first05:58
intelikeysoulrider i haven't built a kernel in several months.   and i normally let the thing make while i sleep.05:58
Daskreechwhat's wrong with reinstalling?05:58
soulrideri see intelikey05:58
lovlossI love reinstalling linux05:58
soulriderlol, it is kinda fun, isnt it ?05:58
lovlossa fresh new operating system is always better than an old one. Things just pile up05:58
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lovlossand yeah its fun05:58
DaskreechI'm going to reinstall after KDE4.1 comes out05:58
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jay:D05:58
soulrideri like it when i do a more advanced installation than before, and i can actually understand what the stuff means05:58
intelikeyflaccid hmm   ok.    i have a few thoughts on that but nothing worth sharing yet.05:58
jay!help05:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:59
DaskreechI was going to do KDE4.0 but I figure I'll still neeed qt3 stuff05:59
flaccidintelikey: ok cool yh005:59
hawk_intelikey:hello my good budy05:59
lovlossi wish i could browse my brain05:59
flaccidi mean y005:59
BartSimpsonI heard you can only have 5 partitions on one disk, but i would need 6 to merge these disks. is it possible to use > 5?05:59
hawk_lovloss:dont we all05:59
intelikeyhawk_ what do you want ?05:59
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hawk_intelikey:just saying hello05:59
soulrideruhm, i havnt seen hawkwind in a while, does he ever come on ?06:00
intelikeyanything that starts with  friend,buddy,or pal.  triggers the "what do you want" attatude    :)06:00
hawk_intelikey: i would think so06:00
jayi want that bot06:00
intelikeyhawk_ but   ok.   how !06:00
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intelikeyor shalom06:01
intelikeyheck i can even say howdy.06:01
hawk_intelikey:lol06:01
martalliI am trying to run an install program, but it claims I am not running a JVM.  As far as I know, this install of kubuntu has both sun jre 5 and 6.06:01
intelikeythe first two by birth the last by local06:01
martalliI can see them both in the menus06:01
lovlossInstallation goes quick if you save all your apt-get names. YOu can just put in a big pasted paragraph of them and go make a sandwhich06:01
martalliIs there a way to check that>06:01
jaymartalli: you have to set your paths for it06:02
jaytype in a shell $path06:02
jayand see ion you jre is there06:02
martalliok06:02
intelikeyjay  $path ?06:02
jayyes06:02
intelikey?06:02
Dragon_LegionLaughing Out Loud06:02
jayi had to do that for limwire06:02
Dragon_Legiontry echo $path06:02
jaynah06:02
jayyou dont need the echo06:02
intelikeyDragon_Legion  echo $path  ?06:02
martallino $PATH06:03
intelikeylol06:03
martalliall caps06:03
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intelikeyyep06:03
jayyeah06:03
lovlosssomeone in one of my classes asked me if linux was available for i386 systems06:03
lovlosslol06:03
jayyes06:03
jayit is06:03
jayxD06:03
lovlossi thought that was a hillarious question06:03
martalliis anyone still using 386 systems?  Tell you classmate they shoudl really be usding a p4 at least06:03
DaskreechBartSimpson: you can have as many as you want I would not advise over 200 though06:03
pollyoDo that have a distribution that will run on an older system that only has 64 meg or ram?06:03
jayim using 386 >_>06:03
Dragon_Legionecho $PATH doesnt retrun an error on my system the way $PATH does06:03
lovlossa lot of people use 38606:04
jayDragon_Legion what distreo you using06:04
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lovlossthis computer im using now is i38606:04
lovlossthough my new one is 6406:04
intelikeylovloss did you answer "i don't know, i'll have to check the list of supported arch. and get back to you; because it's not possable to remember what all linux will run on. "  ?06:04
martallipath = bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory06:04
lovlossintelikey: no, i just said "yes" ^_^ i just found it odd since the 64bit stuff is what's specialty06:05
martalliAnd java appears to be /usr/bin/java06:05
intelikey"oh, but the list of things it wont run on is short enough _____ . "   :)06:05
martalliSo I guess that java is in my path06:05
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jayyou have to put is in your $path06:05
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lovloss:306:05
kalorinmkay06:05
kalorinnow i have it doing mirrored mode06:05
kalorinso that's nice06:05
jay!PATH06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
jay!$PATH06:06
lovlossif i suggest anything about new technology, its that you get a SATA card and set up a raid array for your hard drive/s ^_^06:06
jayhmm06:06
Dragon_Legionmartalli: use which java06:06
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lovlossbest thing i ever did06:06
Dragon_Legionif that doesnt work use which jre06:06
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martalliWhat's the command line for jre?06:07
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intelikeylovloss i still prefer scsi  but ok yeah.06:07
jaymartalli: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch11.html < look here06:07
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intelikeymartalli i don't know but   j[tab]      might help.06:08
lovlossi g2g06:08
jayjava -version06:08
lovlosscya all06:08
martalliintelikey: Why didn't I think of that?06:08
Dragon_Legiontry gij06:08
jaymartalli: it just java ._.06:08
Dragon_Legiongij -jar really06:08
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soulriderim going to bed06:09
martalliI think "java_vm"06:09
soulridersee ya guys!06:09
Dragon_Legionmartalli: I dont have my linux connected to this system but when I put in java it told me to use gij -jar06:09
jayDragon_Legion have you used kubuntu?06:09
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jayMake sure your giving command for a debian based system06:10
tazouch, Kubuntu need a lot of RAM. Is it normal?06:10
Dragon_Legionkago....I am OVER kubuntu06:10
jayyes06:10
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Dragon_Legionessentially the same thing06:10
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intelikeytaz it doesn't "need" a lot of ram.06:10
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jaynot really..06:11
intelikeyubuntu kde will run in less than 64M06:11
martalliActually - gij -jar claims to work06:11
jayMake sure you have a swap06:11
Dragon_LegionI hardly use any RAM on my system06:11
intelikeyno swap06:11
Dragon_Legionand I have about 100 ps running06:11
tazgot 384Mb and use 357 with only Konversation06:11
pollyointelikey: ubuntu will run in less than 64M?06:11
intelikeypollyo yes06:11
intelikeyand no swap06:11
jayi know for a fact you need a linux swap partition06:12
eeanmtaz: linux always uses almost all of your memory, it caches hard disk06:12
pollyointelikey: Great.  I've been looking for something to put on my other machine.  It only has 64M.06:12
intelikeyi did not say that you had a lot of ram for apps   i said kde doesn't need that much.     mozilla-browser and an irc client an konsole  will just about max out that 64M06:13
pollyointelikey: Do you know of any other distributions that are good for older computers?06:13
jayKnoppix06:13
jayknoppix is good for thoes with no ram06:13
eeanmlol06:13
Carutsujay: mmm, i need that!06:13
jay!knoppix06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
martallifor very little ram, I woudl suggest puppy linux.06:13
Carutsujay: good to know, bur how about packages?06:13
pollyojay: Ok. Are they still developing for knoppix and is it based on anything?06:13
jay:/06:13
pollyojay: As far as packages?06:14
jaylike what do you mean06:14
intelikeypollyo slackware   still has all it's releases avalable.   you can put a slackware system in 16M ram 100M hd .06:14
jaylike what it has >_>06:14
jayintelikey: mandriva one can do the same thing06:14
jayand it has a better base06:14
Carutsujay: finding software for k/ubuntu is so easy because of the repostories, are the knopix repostories as well mantained as k/ubuntu's06:14
jaywith rpm :D06:14
pollyoI'm going to have to look around a bit.06:14
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intelikeyjay yes but not quite so easily.   he asked about a distro that was "good for older boxes"06:15
jayCarutsu: knoppix goes directly to the Debians sorces for its packages06:15
martalliHow do I set a cl variable?  how do I set $JAVA_HOME='/usr/bin' (or something liek that?06:15
intelikeypollyo dsl also.06:15
tazIs Katapult really usefull? (try to close some process)06:15
Carutsujay: that's good enough for me06:15
martalliif you "install knoppix", you get a vanilla install06:15
intelikeypollyo assuming you have a cd drive in it.06:15
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Carutsutaz i just love it!06:16
pollyoThanks for all the sugestions.06:16
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pollyoI do have CD on the machine.06:16
jayy/w06:16
martallifor older computers: puppy linux, dsl, austrumi06:16
jaylol06:16
jayslax does it too06:16
jayand feather06:16
philphotoquestion06:16
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jayyes?06:16
pollyoCan tooo many options be a bad thing? <grin>06:16
jayxD06:16
martalliHow do I set a cl variable?  how do I set $JAVA_HOME='/usr/bin' (or something like that?06:17
intelikeypollyo sure.   the question is how many are too many06:17
pollyointelikey: True.06:17
jaymartalli : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch11.html<tell you how06:17
martallignome sure thinks so (as in, you can't change any options witht he gnoe-screensaver)06:17
philphotois it possible and/or something reasonable to do to to load up feisty on my PATA 40GB drive then creade a RAID array with two 80GB drives purely for starage?06:17
jay!java06:17
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:17
intelikeymartalli in your  ~/.profile   i would think would be a good place06:17
jay!rais06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rais - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:18
jay!raid06:18
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:18
jaythere ya go06:18
intelikeymartalli or the system wide   /etc/profile06:18
philphotoI don't want to make it bootable RAID06:18
philphotothanks, I'll be right back06:18
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pollyoIs it possible to have a volume control for each application?06:18
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intelikeywithout hacking things... i'd have to say no.06:19
jay=D06:19
pollyoI always wondered why they didn't have that option.06:19
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jay!ubuntustudio06:19
ubotuubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio06:19
intelikeyit should be possable to modulate the output pre-arts  but i've never seen it done.06:20
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kaloringrrrrrrrr06:22
utnubukjay is there a beta available to play with?06:22
kalorinI can get two screens that mirror each other06:22
philphotook, so I read the ubotu's RAID page as for boot disks but I only want to have a mountable storage volume.06:22
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intelikeypollyo one reason is that it would require a secnodary sound filter for every app     sound would flow through the volume filter then into the arts server (filter) to get to the hardware....  the more you process it the slower it gets06:22
utnubukfor ubuntu studio i mean06:22
kalorinand I can get two screens that are two completely seperate desktops06:22
philphotoand I want to play.  to learn what I can do06:22
kalorinI can't get two screens that are one desktop06:22
kalorinOMG06:23
pollyointelikey: I see.06:23
kalorinit worked06:23
kalorinnow I'm afraid to reboot06:23
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jaymartalli do you still need help06:23
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DaskreechDragon_Legion: how is it?06:23
Dragon_LegionDaskreech: what?06:24
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Re|ent|ess* services. sets mode: +e <lol06:24
Daskreechpollyo: deli and vector06:24
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philphotook.  I think I'm going over to Feisty.  looks like a lot of my slow comp issues might be taken care of.06:25
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pollyoDaskreech:  deli and vector?06:26
philphotoare there any more fixes for the ATI GC in feisty?06:26
Daskreechpollyo: light distros06:27
Daskreechdeli more so than vector06:27
pollyoDaskreech: Thank you.06:27
Daskreech it is very minimial though i thik they just upgraded to linux kernel 2.206:27
intelikeypollyo it's a little like doing    printf "`echo blah | cat`\n"     to get blah to the stdout.   it will get there but so will   echo blah    and it doesn't have to go through two other processes to get there so it is faster.   even though you may not be able to measure it.    if the streem was big enough you could.06:27
pollyointelikey: Looking at the website now.06:27
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peanutbcan anyone point me to a good guide for doing a low level format on a toshiba hard drive? possibly with ubuntu?06:31
peanutbor kubuntu06:32
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Daskreechpeanutb: check the toshiba site they will most likely have an ISO for the tools that will do it for you06:32
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Daskreechpretty dangerous at this point in time to do low level formats by yourself06:33
peanutbthe drive has bad sectors. Toshiba dosnt provide any utilities06:33
Daskreechwait is this a laptop?06:34
peanutbthe hd is from a laptop06:34
peanutbbut in a regular pc right now.06:34
intelikeypeanutb you can try   sudo cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda  (assuming hda)   then partition/format06:35
intelikeypeanutb that's about as close as you get without a real bios call.   some bios's have a low level format opetion.06:35
intelikeyoption06:36
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peanutbintelikey, ok thanks, i doubt my bios has that option (it is a cheap ECS motherboard)06:36
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intelikeyop shun06:37
Daskreechpeanutb: and toshiba makes the had drive?06:37
Daskreechintelikey: evvery day06:37
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intelikeylol06:38
peanutbDaskreech, i pulled it out of a laptop.06:38
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Daskreechyea yes I understand that. But I doubt that toshiba made the drive itself06:38
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DaskreechWoah deja vu06:39
intelikeyseagate wd maxtor ....06:39
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BartSimpsonBack to my previous partition problem, I have one last question: My fstab has / mounted as UUID=something_that_looks_like_a_md5. will I need to change this "UUID" when i move my thing to a different partion on the new hard drive?06:39
peanutbit was from a tosiba computer with toshiba written all over it.06:39
maymemooi cant join #ubuntu-offtopic06:39
maymemoo>=|06:39
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peanutbmaymemoo, register your nick06:40
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Daskreechmaymemoo: boo-hoo :) join #kubuntu-offtopic :-)06:40
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Re|ent|essi forgot -RN is on06:41
Re|ent|ess:x06:41
Re|ent|essthis server is bad with modes06:41
Agent_bobyou don't have to regester to join #ubuntu-offtopic06:41
Re|ent|essim banned06:42
Re|ent|ess:D06:42
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Re|ent|esssome op on a power trip did it06:42
Re|ent|ess:p06:42
Agent_bobRe|ent|ess should i tell them you are in here now so they can do the same ?  :)06:43
Re|ent|esslol06:43
Jucatothere's #kubuntu-offtopic too06:43
Jucatow/c reminds me...06:43
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Agent_bobyeah you can get banned from there too06:43
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JucatoRe|ent|ess: #ubuntu-ops for operator questions (bans, etc)06:44
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Carutsu!inkscape06:45
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more06:45
Daskreechit has a k in the name. it must be good106:46
pollyo!busybox06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
JucatoDaskreech: non sequitur... you have a K in your name as well :P06:46
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DaskreechWell .... I'm good06:46
Jucatonon verum est06:47
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Daskreech:-06:50
Daskreech)06:50
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vbgunzI have an issue with Firefox on Kubuntu. I click on a mailto link and my Thunderbird setup does not try to open a window at all. If I launch a link from Thunderbird, it opens that link in Konqueror... but Firefox is my default browser... whats going on? anyone know?06:51
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Daskreechthunderbid isn't a kde app I don't think it respects the KDE default app choice06:53
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vbgunzthis blows, I swear I would switch to KDE apps Konqueror and Kmail *but* no web developer and other useful extensions for Konqueror and well, Thunderbird I am seriously considering doing without...06:54
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philphotohas there been any change (positive) in how ATI graphics cards act with Feisty?06:55
philphotoor do I have to go through the rigamarole again?06:56
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Daskreechrigmarole?06:56
CarutsuDaskreech but as far as i know Thunderbird does a system call calling for a browser the system then loads the browser06:56
DaskreechCarutsu: if you say so06:56
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philphotoordeal, however slight, of reconfiguring xorg.conf to better apply my GC for speed06:57
CarutsuDaskreech: tell me if im wrong but that's what i though06:57
philphotoI swear I'm just going to get another vendor's GC.06:57
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Daskreechphilphoto: Oh that's what was making things run so slow?06:58
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philphotoon that note, should I be able to switch graphics cards when I get my new one in & not have to do a complete new install?06:58
philphotoyeah, that's why it was slow.06:58
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philphotodaskreech: today I tried to do a dual-boot with winXP so I could run my Epson scanner, but in the process things went bad.06:59
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Daskreechoh?07:00
Daskreechhow so?07:00
philphotonot a problem, I have everything saved on my external hd.  and the feisty install took way less time than the upgrade07:00
Daskreechphilphoto: tell me about it.07:00
posingaspopularDaskreech, migration manager is amazing.07:00
Jucatovbgunz: "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" to set your default browser across the whole system07:00
Daskreechposingaspopular: still slow :-)07:00
posingaspopularhmmm07:01
posingaspopularstrange07:01
philphotosomething happened with one of the partitions on the hd that had edgy installed & i just said to heck with it.07:01
Jucatovbgunz: as for clicking mailto links in firefox to launch thunderbird, I think you'll have to use about:config there07:01
philphotoit WOULD NOT boot.07:01
philphotono matter what I tried.07:01
philphotoevery setting in BIOS wouldn't let that thing boot to save it's life.  i went & restored grub again even to see if it was an issue with that.  nope.07:02
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skarfaceJucato: kcontrol > KDE Components > Default Applications will set thunderbird as the default07:02
philphotothunderstorm outside.  I should get off this machine.07:02
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Jucatoskarface: yes, but only for KDE apps07:03
Jucatoskarface: and since firefox is not a kde app, it may not (or may) follow that07:03
vbgunzJucato: thank you very much though I think I am really going to make a gunho effort to switch to kmail07:03
skarfaceJucato: it will07:03
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skarfaceno reason to use kmail or thunderbird really07:03
vbgunzJucato: what you use?07:03
skarfacewebmail is more convenient07:04
JucatoI'm sure about the default browser part though07:04
Jucatovbgunz: konqueror and kmail07:04
philphotoso has anyone here (with an ATI graphics card)  noticed any performance advantage over edgy?07:04
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vbgunzJucato: thats what I mean, I am thinking about switching from Tbird to kmail... Konqueror not so easy for me... Firefox got some killer extensions :(07:04
Daskreechphilphoto: I'll tell you tomorrow when feisty finished installing07:05
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pollyois ubuntu-desktop the gnome desktop?07:05
philphotooh man.07:05
Jucatopollyo: no07:05
pollyoHmm....07:05
Jucatoubuntu-desktop is the metapackage that installs the default Ubuntu packages.07:05
skarfaceI really dislike konqueror... kde I like, konqueror not so much. but as far as email, gmail wins. then just add its feed to akregator to check your mail periodically.07:05
philphotoyou should free up some bandwidth on your machine & get off the IRC07:05
Jucatognome-desktop-environment is the GNOME desktop metapackage07:05
Daskreechpollyo: it will install a gnome desktop yes07:05
skarfaceirc takes about .002% of my bandwidth... it's the torrents...07:06
pollyoI went to remove compiz and it says removing ubuntu-desktop07:06
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Daskreechpollyo: that's cool07:06
skarfacepollyo: that's strange07:06
Daskreechno big loss07:06
philphotoyou know what?  I think I notice a difference right now.07:06
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philphotohas Feisty's xorg.conf been changed to run better with specific radeon GC's?  this thing is kicking @$$07:07
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skarfaceall I've noticed so far is that I don't have to add repositories for beryl07:07
pollyoWhat are considered the top video cards for linux right now.  Do they have a website that discussess videocards for use on linux?07:07
skarfaceoh and the splashes got kind of blurry and strange looking07:07
Daskreechphilphoto: well a new ati driver came out yesterday i think07:08
Daskreechthat may make a difference07:08
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philphotoreally!?07:08
kalorinanother new one yesterday?07:08
kalorinI have like 8.5.55 or something07:08
philphotothat's good.07:08
Daskreechwasn't it yesterday?07:08
Daskreechyeah that one07:08
kalorin8.35.507:08
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philphotoeither way, this machine hasn't been this fast since I installed my new CPU & 3 more GBram a month ago07:09
philphotobut I was on WInXP then, so I can't judge :)07:09
Daskreech:-)07:09
Daskreechkubuntu is normally pretty quick07:09
skarfacejust about anything would scream with more than 3gb of ram07:09
philphotoI'll get my peripherals configured, scan an image in Xsane & then I'll tell you if it's working better.07:09
kalorinI so want to go E6600 w/ 2gb of ram07:10
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philphotoyeah, I wish I had an athlon6407:10
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kalorinhave a 64 3200+ single core now07:10
kalorinit's fast enough07:10
skarfaceI have yet to see any compelling reason that 64-bit is better07:10
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skarfaceunless you want to compile everything for 6407:11
pollyoI guess compiz is required for ubutun-desktop07:11
philphotothe arch is better than pentium for graphics processing like I do07:11
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pollyo!ubuntu-desktop07:12
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nicochola07:13
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.07:13
skarfaceit's just a metapackage... the only problem you'll have is that if you want to use apt-get autoremove it'll try to nuke your gnome07:13
skarfaceand apparently it might screw up updates :)07:13
pollyoAt the same time does it also slow my computer down?07:14
skarfaceno07:14
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skarfacenot if you're not running beryl07:14
koflerI'm trying to do static IP configuration. The machine is currently DHCP'd and I am remotely SSH'd from home to the network. If I /etc/init.d/networking restart, will I lose all connectivity positively?07:14
skarfaceit just takes a little hd space07:14
Daskreechskarface: yeah it assumes you have the basic meta package and the desktop meta package07:14
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pollyoskarface: compiz itself isn't going to slow it down without beryl?07:14
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philphotogoodness, this has a lot of updates.  bah07:14
skarfacepollyo: uh did you install compiz?07:15
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koflerAnyone?07:15
pollyoskarface: I believe at one point I did.  I was attempting to remove it and it removed ubuntu-desktop at the same time.07:15
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kalorinwhat's the real advantage of this beryl deal anyway?07:15
intelikeykofler ?07:15
Daskreechphilphoto: honestly if you don't like updating then please close your eyes07:15
kalorinjust to have pretty 3d objects to map your desktop onto?07:15
pollyoskarface: When I went to put ubuntu-desktop back it reinstalled compiz.07:15
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Daskreechkalorin: envy07:15
philphotoI'm thinking of just going to bed.07:15
kalorinenvy?07:16
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skarfacepollyo: weird. compiz has never been part of ubuntu-desktop as far as I know07:16
pollyoskarface: I doubt my video card is fast enough to really work with compiz though.07:16
Daskreechpollyo: that's wrong07:16
philphotobut this new face to the OS is like a christmas present.07:16
Daskreechphilphoto: if you update there will be just as many when you wake up07:16
philphotoi want to get everythign configured NOW07:16
philphotoyou serious?!07:16
Daskreechphilphoto: really just leave it alone for the month :)07:16
Daskreechyep07:16
Daskreechno joke07:16
philphotodang.07:16
pollyoDid they change something on feisty?07:16
philphotowell, I'm 32% into it07:16
skarfacewell fesity includes beryl, nothing about compiz though07:17
Daskreechphilphoto: until it releases you'll have a ton of updates every day07:17
skarfaceI don't know what that's all about07:17
philphotoright, right.07:17
pollyoI have a NV TNT2 crard.07:17
Daskreechphilphoto: well let it up date then. but you don't HAVE to do everyupdate07:17
pollyoI have NV drivers running but I think compiz and beryl need newer cards.07:17
Daskreech by the time the update is done they will have more07:17
DaskreechIt's crazy07:17
skarfacepollyo: what kind of card do you have?07:17
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philphotook, I'll just shut off the adept notification deal until the 20th07:18
DaskreechI've updated a package and by the time it's downloaded and installed the same package had an update07:18
intelikeyDaskreech that's why i stick with LTS07:18
philphotoha ha ha ha ha ha!07:18
Daskreechit's addicitive if you don't have stuff to do07:18
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philphotoLTS?07:18
pollyoskarface: It is an older card in my Dell Optiplex Gx300 with a PIII07:18
Daskreechintelikey: LTS had it as well :-p07:18
skarfacephilphoto: well you could always remove compiz or whatever and then install ubuntu-desktop again. it won't really install anything but it should get rid of the annoyance.07:18
Daskreechdon't be acting like it didn't07:18
pollyoskarface: It is a NV TNT2 is all I know.07:18
intelikeydoesn't now07:18
Daskreechwell neither will feisty when it ships07:19
philphotoit's not an annoyance.07:19
pollyoskarface: That is what I did.  Then it reinstalled compiz.07:19
skarfaceuh well considering beryl/compiz will run on my lame intel cards, it should run on that07:19
intelikeyDaskreech there have been maybe 10 packages updated in a month07:19
pollyoskarface: Really?07:19
skarfacepollyo: that's a rather odd little fluke07:19
philphotonow that I have feisty, am I running beryl?07:19
skarfaceno07:19
intelikeyDaskreech and the longer it goes the less there are.   the "bugs are being worked out"07:19
philphotook.07:19
pollyoskarface: I would like to look at some of the effects in compiz.07:19
pollyoskarface: Any idea how I active them?07:20
Daskreechintelikey: you'd love delli linux :-)07:20
skarfaceyeah07:20
Daskreech2.2 kernel07:20
philphotonot that i want beryl.  just wondering what big apps are being put on the OS automatically07:20
skarfaceinstall beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes07:20
skarfacethen run beryl-manager07:20
intelikeyDaskreech na  2.4 is good07:20
pollyoskarface: I think compiz has some type of windows manager.07:20
Daskreechdebian? :-)07:20
skarfacewell beryl is a fork of compiz07:21
philphoto72% complete07:21
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skarfacepretty much the same stuff, only it seems to have more development going on07:21
pollyoMaybe I need to install compiz-kde to activate it.07:22
skarfacenah07:22
pollyocompiz-core and compiz (and a slew of others are already installed)07:22
philphotook, now that I'm up with the feisty, with no more windowz crud on my computer, I have more storage.07:22
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kalorinso feisty is going to be really different?07:23
philphotodo I just go into a partition manager to create one big ext3 partition in my spare drive?07:23
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intelikeykalorin no.07:23
skarfacephilphoto: if you like07:23
philphotobut is it just that simple?07:23
skarfaceyou'll have to add it to /etc/fstab also07:23
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kalorinintelikey think I'll still have a TON of issues with the ATI video drivers there?07:23
skarfaceif you want it to mount automatically07:23
philphotohow to do that?07:23
philphotocertainly07:23
kalorin(in feisty I mean)07:23
skarfacesudo nano /etc/fstab07:23
skarfacebrb07:24
philphotoand edit fstab with?  is it obvious?07:24
intelikeykalorin i would hope not as many.  but probably still some.  until we see some actual change in the modus operandus of ati (it was bought out by amd) then don't expect any miricales07:25
philphotoI'm meaning, I'll add the volume label to fstab, correct?07:26
Re|ent|ess!tell philphoto abot fstab07:26
Re|ent|ess!tell philphoto about fstab07:26
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Re|ent|ess!fstab07:26
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions07:26
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Re|ent|ess!partitons07:27
kalorinyeah I just wish when I did an install off the cd I didn't have to drop to a shell and install the xorg-driver-ati package and then dot he aticonfig --initial and so on07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partitons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
DaskreechBartSimpson: how goes?07:27
kalorinin order to just get it to give me a desktop07:27
kalorinthen do it again after the install07:27
philphotothanks.07:27
kalorinand then try to upgrade the drivers to something more current and you get a few hours of banging your head against the desk07:27
kalorinjust aggrevatin07:27
BartSimpsonDaskreech: still looking for a new hard drive :)07:28
kalorinat least my new workstation at work has a quadra 5something in it, worked right out of the box07:28
kalorinthought it wouldn't see my dell 20" 1600x1200 FP until I redid the monitor profile07:28
kalorinthat was silly07:28
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!07:29
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MilhousePunkRockWhat is responsible for the cpu speed bar in the tooltip of the power manager?07:30
Daskreechksysguard07:31
Daskreechoh wait :)07:31
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Daskreechread that rong07:31
Daskreechwrong07:31
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: Well, let's just take the emptiness of that bar as an indicator that speedstepping is not working here anymore...07:32
pollyoI installed beryl.  Do I have to reboot or restart to use it?07:32
Daskreechpollyo: just x07:32
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kalorinI liked the one that was in xbuntu better than that ksysguard deal07:33
pollyoDaskreech: Cant I type CTRL-something-something to do that or should I log out and relogin to restart x?07:33
kalorin3 verticle bars, cpu, memory, and disk/io/ethernet/whatever07:33
Daskreechpollyo: have anythign to save?07:33
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace07:33
philphotowhat is the partition editor built into feisty?  I can't find one.07:33
pollyoDaskreech: I'm writing an ISO file to CD but after that I do not have anything to save.07:34
Daskreechqtparted07:34
Daskreechpollyo: when that's done just ctrl+alt+bkspc07:34
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: So you should wait until that's done07:34
pollyoOk.  Thanks.07:34
philphotogotcha.  its just not in the app menu07:34
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Jucatophilphoto: it's only installed by default on the Desktop CD07:35
philphotoaha!07:35
philphotoso now i can choose?07:35
JucatoGParted, QtParted or command line? sure07:36
philphotoI like gparted.  is there any benefit of one over the other?07:36
Daskreech!partition07:36
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter07:36
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pollyoOk.07:37
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: good idea07:37
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Got your eye candy now?07:37
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: No07:37
pollyoA program closed unexpectedly. "artsd" any idea what that is?07:38
MilhousePunkRockphilphoto: If you need more than four partitions, you will most likely need to go to the cli and deal with fdisk or cfdisk07:38
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: The KDE sound system07:38
pollyoHmmmm....07:38
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pollyoShould the eye candy have started automatically?07:38
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MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Did you at least see the beryl splash?07:39
MilhousePunkRockI dont really remember how much of beryl is started by default07:39
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I did not take notice of any new splash.07:39
MilhousePunkRockwhat about Alt-F2 and "beryl-manager", pollyo?07:39
pollyoWill I find any Beryl config programs in the K menu?07:39
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MilhousePunkRockpollyo: IIRC it was in the system tray07:39
Daskreechintelikey: you know that stuff rots your retinas right?07:40
intelikeybacking up at a whooping rate of  2.85 MB/s    hehhe07:40
MilhousePunkRockintelikey!07:40
pollyoSomething crashed...07:40
intelikeyDaskreech is that why i need glasses ?07:40
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock :)07:40
Daskreechno the cli is why ou need glasses07:40
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: We need glasses because we are nerds...07:40
Daskreech what resolution does that run at anyway?07:40
pollyoI do see the beryl in the taskbar now07:40
Daskreechpollyo: right click it07:40
Daskreechyou can choose your window manager07:40
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: I think you can switch the windows manager from KWin to Beryl there07:41
Daskreechsee if it has a choice of beryl07:41
MilhousePunkRockIIRC it would be called "emerald"07:41
DaskreechJucato: does kubuntu have the one touch desktop effects as well?07:41
pollyoI have four choices for windows manager07:41
JucatoDaskreech: nope07:41
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: One touch desktop?07:41
DaskreechJucato: was it planned to?07:41
pollyoBeryl, Compiz, Metacity, Kwin...07:42
philphotoI really want to create a separate profile here and make it identical to Vista.  I can be the first cool person on my block to have a WORKING version when they come over.  muahahaha07:42
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: there's a menu in Ubuntu to enable Compiz07:42
intelikeyDaskreech resolution ?    anything from  50 columns by 12 lines    to  180 columns by 70 lines   on this box.07:42
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JucatoDaskreech: not sure. probably not07:42
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: That's overload for sure07:42
Daskreechintelikey: how do you change that?07:42
MilhousePunkRockBut you can pick beryl from there07:42
pollyoCan I do away with a few of those?07:42
intelikeySvgaTextMode07:42
DaskreechJucato: man I'm so going to get laughed at in the office07:42
pollyoAre they slowing my system down having those 4 options listed?07:43
Daskreechintelikey: command?07:43
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Jucatopollyo: no. because you can't have more than 1 window manager running at one time07:43
pollyoJucato: Ok.  Thank you.07:43
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Probably not, but why would you need both metacity and kwin? or compiz and beryl? make up your mind07:43
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pollyoI have two Adept Notifer in the bar at the bottom.  One is a green orb and the other is a crash symbol07:43
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: he probably has GNOME/Ubuntu installed as well07:43
intelikeyDaskreech you have to install it first.    and edit /etc/Textconfig  for your hardware  then it's     stm <size>07:43
MilhousePunkRockThe basic linux rule is still KISS, isn't it?07:43
Daskreechintelikey: neat so I cam make things too small for me to read and change it back?07:44
Jucatoand Compiz and Beryl aren't technically "duplicates"... but well...07:44
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: The "crash" symbol is a notifier that updates are available07:44
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: no that's the unix rule07:44
pollyoJucato: Yes, I have Gnome ubuntu installed as well.07:44
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Daskreechthe linux rule is penguins chhhaaarrggee111107:44
Daskreechs/1111/!!!!!/07:44
intelikeyDaskreech yes.   but i sujest you make a restore script   cause you can select modes that don't work.07:44
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: s/!!!!/oneoneeleven07:45
MilhousePunkRock;-)07:45
Daskreechintelikey: how do you run the restore script if thigns don't  work?07:45
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: Ever noticed there are no penguins in Kubuntu?07:45
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: heh hang out here more and see some of the crazy thigns I get up to07:45
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: there are no anythings on kubuntu07:45
MilhousePunkRockGears!07:46
pollyoWhy isn't the green ball where it was before?  Now it is in the list of windows when before it was over with the sound and network connection information.07:46
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Enabled beryl by now?07:46
MilhousePunkRockIf so, that's what you get... It's still not mature...07:46
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: The gem is in the taskbar.07:46
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I haven't done anything with it yet though.07:47
Daskreechnot even gears for the past few releases07:47
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: I used to be a regular here...07:47
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intelikeyDaskreech assuming 80x25 works for you   echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nstm 80x25' > ~/x ;chmod 755 ~/x       and if you blank your screen just do ~/x07:47
intelikeyoh better add   -a in the stm line of that.07:47
pollyoI do not think that beryl is going to run with my current setup though.07:47
pollyoI will have to check my drivers.07:48
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: You should have done that before...07:48
Daskreechintelikey: ah I'd probably ~/bin/gdit07:48
pollyoMaybe my video card is toooo old or not powerful enough.07:48
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: What are your system specs?07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Yes.  true.07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Old. <grin>07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I am sure it is way below specs.07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: PIII, NV TNT2 ....07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: 256 Megs Ram07:48
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intelikeyDaskreech if that's in you path.  just a way to get      stm -a 80x25   or what ever, without having to guess at what you typed.07:49
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MilhousePunkRockAlthough they say berly is not that demanding, I used to run it on my desktop (Athlon XP 2400+, 1 GB RAM, GeForce 6600 GT 128 MB) and it was just plain unuseable07:50
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Haha... Good luck...07:50
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intelikeyDaskreech the config file is long   but don't just think it will work without editing     it wont07:50
Daskreechintelikey: aight :-)07:51
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pollyoOk.. Beryl was a bad idea to jump into without looking at it first. <grin>07:52
kalorinheh07:52
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MilhousePunkRockping07:53
MilhousePunkRockping07:53
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posingaspopularMilhousePunkRock, who are you pingin?07:53
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I wanted to start with compiz...07:53
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: <Grin>07:54
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pollyoAnyone know about NV drivers?07:54
Agent_bobDaskreech can you grab that script ?07:54
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pollyoOpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.8407:55
Daskreechapparently not07:55
posingaspopular!nvidia07:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:55
pollyo  If your version is 9631 (see above) or higher then you can skip this and move on to the section entitled "Modifying your xorg.conf file".07:55
Moby_pythonhas anybody here gotten an atheros wireless card to work07:55
Agent_bobfirewall in the way i guess07:55
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pollyoI'm going to have to wait and look at this another day.07:56
pollyoIt is suggesting some serous changes.07:56
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Moby_pythonI cannot load mad wifi with the kubuntu feisty upgrade07:57
pollyoBBL07:57
Daskreechnight all!!!07:58
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Mantishello all...I just did a fresh install of kubuntu 6.06 on another partition so I could dual boot, and I gan't get the linux bootloader to show up instead of booting immediatly to windows07:58
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Agent_bob!grub07:59
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:59
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Agent_bobsee the first link ^ it's apropos07:59
Mantisthanks07:59
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Moby_pythonWell my desktop wont let me install k3b 1.0, probably will work if I install feisty.08:05
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Moby_pythonMy laptop won't let me use my wifi card because I installed feisty08:05
Agent_bobda feisty grips channel is  #ubuntu+1   :)08:07
Agent_bobgripes08:07
Agent_bobgropes ?08:07
poningru...08:07
Agent_bobgroups ?08:07
poningruAgent_bob: lets not go farther08:07
Agent_bobok.08:08
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Agent_bobah in the dark.08:09
Agent_bob:)08:09
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dwidmannMoby_python: if you really need k3b 1.0 in edgy, you could compile it yourself.08:10
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Moby_pythondwidmann I am trying, first it was qt, now I"ve got qt okay and it is complaining about my kde prefix08:11
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M4ntisokay, I tried to fix grub using the live cd terminal trick, but when I try to do find /boot/grub/stage1 it says file not found.....this happened the last time I installed08:12
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Erb_can somebody please tell me how I can register for a channel (##php)?08:14
Rictoohey08:14
Rictoowho wants to play a game of uno with a java irc bot I just made?08:14
Admiral_Chicago!register08:14
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:14
Rictoowho wants to play a game of uno with a java irc bot I just made?08:14
Rictoo=D08:14
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philphotook, i'm just about to get this mount command down.  now, I want to mount /dev/sdc1 in media.  would that look like mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/media  ?08:17
M4ntisIs there any manual solution to grub not installing with kubuntu?  Grub didn't load into linux because it is apparently not there08:17
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philphotoI've looked at the page & it's not straigtforward about it08:17
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philphotoM4ntis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveryAfterInstallingWindows08:21
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M4ntisyea, I tried the standard stuff, I think I need to install grub manually though08:22
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philphotooh, it didn't find it?08:22
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M4ntisyea /boot/grub/stage1 wasn't found08:22
philphotonot at all, huh?08:23
M4ntisthis hapened when I installed earlier, and I have no idea why08:23
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philphotohow many drives do you have?08:23
M4ntistwo08:23
philphotodo you know your BIOS well?08:23
M4ntissomewhat08:24
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philphotowhat is loaded on hd0?08:24
philphotoWindows?08:24
M4ntisyea08:24
philphotoany RAID devices?08:25
M4ntisnope08:25
philphotoyour grub should be in hd0.  did you recently do a clean install of everything?08:26
M4ntisI've had windows installed for a long time, I was going to try to add kubuntu, and this is where I am08:26
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philphotoI'd say just re-install if you haven't gotten anywhere with kubuntu configurations08:27
philphotoare you using feisty?08:27
chipbuddydoes anyone know of a simple calendar program for gnome? i found the evolution one, but i'd prefer something simpler08:27
M4ntiswell, this is the second install of kubuntu today :(08:27
philphotooh man.  sorry.08:27
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philphotoI'm linux n00b as well, but have learned way too much over the last week.08:28
M4ntissame problem both times. so I have no idea :-/08:28
philphotobut I hear you.08:28
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philphotohave you done a cd check of the live cd?08:28
M4ntisyep, its fine08:28
philphotowierd.08:28
M4ntiswell08:29
M4ntislooking at fdisk linux got installed on my second harddrive so that could be the problem08:29
philphotobut you should have been able to find grub08:30
philphotoand it should have been in hd0 if you did a standard install08:30
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philphotoI tried a windows install today.  it overwrote my grub.  then there was some problem that made it so I could not boot my linux drive.08:32
philphotoI did a clean sweep & then reinstall of feisty, not that I recommend that though08:32
M4ntisIf I didn't have so much data I'd do a totally clean instal, but I can afford that right now :(08:33
philphotoI have everything saved on an external drive08:33
philphotototally.08:33
M4ntishey this guide is giving me commands that are actualyl making the terminal do something, maybe I'm getting somewhere08:34
philphotowhich one?08:34
Chemicalvampshould i close everything while im upgrading from edgy to fiesty fawn?08:34
M4ntisusing the live CD to overwrite the windows bootloader heh08:35
philphotoyou want a dual bootable system though, correct?08:35
M4ntisyea, I don't think this will work :(08:36
philphotoyou might want to, it's a really big leap08:36
Chemicalvampi ran duel boot for a little while08:36
Chemicalvampbut i didnt have to change any settings08:36
philphotodid you get much saved on edgy?08:37
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Chemicalvampphilphoto, me?08:37
philphotochemicalvamp:  yes.  I mean, did you configure it all to your likings?08:37
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Chemicalvampyeah i said screw it, formatted everything wiped it all out08:38
M4ntiswhat's teh difference between /dev/hda and /dev/sda?08:38
philphotobecause it took me 2 hours to do the upgrade, I'd recommend the very quick full install of the iso image from cd08:38
Chemicalvampbut like i was going to tell m4ntis, while i had that "system restore volume" kubuntu asked me what i wanted to boot08:38
ffffu!replacement08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about replacement - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:38
ffffu!applications08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about applications - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
Chemicalvamp!botsnack08:39
ubotuYum!08:39
ffffu!photoshop08:39
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant08:39
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M4ntiswell...I installed grub...I think lol08:39
M4ntisthis is like some twisted puzzel, its kinda fun despite the fact that I may have just wiped out windows08:39
philphotono, windows is still probably there08:40
Chemicalvampwell if you dont have any attachment who cares?08:40
philphotoexactly08:40
Chemicalvampi dont miss windows08:40
M4ntismy homework cares haha08:40
philphotoI definitely don't08:40
M4ntisbut it's backed up so its okay08:40
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ffffuany nice games for kde like bowling etc?08:41
philphotoM4ntis: hda is what a hard drive will be labelled as when it has other than ext partitions, I believe08:41
Chemicalvampwhat i would try is boot a desktop cd, install do partitions 200mb boot/ 2-3gb swap/ 40gb root/ 30gb windoze08:41
forhamChemicalvamp,08:42
Chemicalvampyeah08:42
philphotosda will be a hd with full ext partition and linux-swap08:42
forhamhi08:42
M4ntiswell, I'm going to try to reboot again.  If not I'll play with it after class tomorrow.  Thanks guys08:42
Chemicalvamphello08:42
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philphotonno prob08:42
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philphotoif I can help someone by telling my recent stories of mistakes, I've done good08:43
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M4ntishaha, :)08:43
Chemicalvampso yeah phil after all that "trying to keep my backups" i realized there was c onflict with my hda2 (vfat windows partition) and decided it was all fubar08:43
M4ntiswell here's hoping it helped!  night!08:43
philphotoI had the same thing08:44
philphotonight08:44
Chemicalvamp77% installed fiestyfawn08:44
philphotonice08:44
philphotoyou mean 77% downloaded?08:44
Chemicalvampno installed08:44
Chemicalvampit took like 4 hours to dl it08:44
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Chemicalvamp855 packages lol08:45
philphotosweet.  once you reboot, you'll notice a big difference if you thought edgy was slow (it was horrible slow here)08:45
philphotooh my goodness08:45
Chemicalvampit was like 3 removed, 60 new, 765 upgraded08:45
philphotooh you did the upgrade.  the slow route.08:45
philphotothe install takes like 20 minutes.08:46
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Chemicalvampeh? i dk.. i just did https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade08:46
philphotoyup, that's the long one.08:46
philphotono worries.08:46
Chemicalvampoh wellz lol08:46
philphotoit's a good update08:46
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philphotoI'm liking feisty.  I have to configure my scanners and printer again, but it seems a bunch faster than edgy kubuntu08:47
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duffydhowdy, just following the tutorial here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput?highlight=%28japanese%29 to setup Japanese support in kubuntu08:48
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philphotoso I have this spare CPU & 1gb ram.  I'm going to get a new mobo & make myself a terabyte+ server for my photography08:48
Chemicalvampi wont know what i need to do till its done, this is after i installed eclipse and tried (tried being the operative word) to get it to work08:48
duffydjust wondering if there's something I should be aware of - i.e. is the uim_anthy input method the recommended approach for kde?08:48
philphotodo you have an ATI graphics card?08:48
Chemicalvampi got 2.2ghz 1g ram 80gb hdd and yes i have ati radeon 200m video card08:49
philphotodon't know duffyd.  apologies08:49
duffydphilphoto: np08:49
philphotochemicalvamp: was edgy slow for you?08:49
Chemicalvampno not realy08:50
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philphotoit was horrible over here.  I have an older ati radeon though so perhaps that was it.08:50
philphotolike 30 seconds to open an app08:50
Chemicalvampmines a laptop amd6408:50
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Chemicalvampgonna try that vmware with my windows mce08:51
philphotoah, nice.    you had no problem because of the amd64 arch08:51
duffydI'm on edgy on a Dell 640m with 2Gb RAM and a dual core - runs nice08:51
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supernixI have a problem I did a upgrade a while back and now my Kubuntu dist is trying to use the gdm instead of the kdm08:52
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philphotofeisty is running really well so far here.08:52
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Chemicalvampman its late work is gonna suck!08:53
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philphotoI have to get up in a few hours too.  yuk08:54
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Chemicalvampawe cmon installer has been at 2 mintes remaining for like 5 minutes08:54
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philphotothat stinks.08:54
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Chemicalvamp99% is always the longest % lol08:56
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philphotolike that last dollar at the gas pump is the longest 2 minutes of your life.08:57
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Chemicalvampawe man08:58
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Chemicalvampwindow title.. "upgrader crashed"08:58
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robertobuenas08:59
robertoalguien tiene un manual de comandos para la consola de linux08:59
roberto?08:59
robertoque estoy empezando ahora y lo necesito09:00
Chemicalvamp!es09:00
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:00
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robertogracias09:00
krautmoin09:01
Chemicalvampes nada09:01
Chemicalvampbrb09:02
ffffu!suse09:03
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)09:03
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c1|freaky!linux09:04
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux09:04
ffffucan i ask something about sources.list ?09:04
ffffuwhy do i have to edit the souces.list manually after installation to remove the # beside some of the deb ?09:04
ffffuare they there for some purposes?09:05
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Admiral_Chicagoffffu: yes some repositories don't need to be on by default09:06
philphotoyou are allowing adept, synaptic, whatever   to access the universe/multiverse in order to have access to thousands more applications.09:06
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Admiral_Chicagofor example, backports is a repo that can cause dependency issues but has useful applications like Flash 909:07
philphotook folks, it's 3am.  oy.09:07
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ffffuare ther special reasons?09:11
ffffuoh09:11
ffffubecause by default i would uncomment them all09:11
ffffuand add a mujltiverse09:11
ffffubehind09:11
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: that might cause a lot of issues09:12
ffffuanyway, i saw screenshots on others desktop..they have a icon apps selection thing that they rollover their mouse and the icon turns big..what is it?09:12
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ffffuwhat issues?09:13
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: i think you are thinking about the new Feisty action09:13
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: dependency issues for one09:13
BoomshikiHey, I am installing Kubuntu on a friends computer. On mine, I could apt-get kpackage but on his computer it's not finding it. What's the deal?09:13
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Admiral_ChicagoBoomshiki: that package is in universe09:14
ffffuno infact those screenshots are taken awhile back..i think they were saying its under gnome environment..but could i have that on kde?09:14
Admiral_Chicagoits new in KDE, not sure which screenshots you are refering to though09:15
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ffffuhttp://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2gc9.png09:16
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ffffuis that gdesklets?09:16
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BoomshikiDo you know why Kpackage would not come up in a search in Universe is like a default repo?09:18
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ffffuwhy?09:18
ubuntu_alright. so that sucked09:18
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chemicalvampinstalled the 6.10 - 7.04 upgrade and reboted to a comand line..09:19
BoomshikiAlright. Thanx.09:19
Admiral_ChicagoBoomshiki: unless you have universe enabled, it wont09:19
tarelerulz_What linux did everyone start out with? mine was Gentooxon on my xbox and then Fedora Core 4 on my computer09:19
Admiral_Chicagoalso, you may need to sudo apt-get update09:20
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic | tarelerulz_09:20
ubotutarelerulz_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:20
chemicalvampwhat command am i supposed to run to start / fix my fiesty install?09:21
ubuntu_Hi all09:21
chemicalvamp!hi09:21
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:21
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ffffuhttp://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2gc9.png <-- the thing at bottom what is it called?09:21
tarelerulz_What up ubuntu09:21
BaJLkaTai am from bulgaria ^^09:22
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: that is a modified panel09:22
BaJLkaTawhat is he bulgarian network,do you know ?09:22
BaJLkaTathe*09:22
ffffucan i do it in kde? i'm using kunbutu edgy now09:22
ffffuthat looks cool09:22
BaJLkaTai think yes09:22
Admiral_Chicagoprobably want an OS theming guide or something09:23
chemicalvampAdmiral_Chicago, what distro do you run?09:23
Admiral_Chicagochemicalvamp: Kubuntu.09:23
chemicalvampgot any knowlage on the 7.04 upgrade?09:24
Admiral_ChicagoI run Feisty atm, no issues, it is a solid release but thats just my opinion09:24
Admiral_Chicagomay not work for you09:24
ffffu!theme09:25
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:25
chemicalvampi followed all the instructions on the site09:25
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firecrotchAnyone know of a way to get a transparent background for kooldock ?09:29
MetaMorfoziSberyl.09:29
ubuntuarkadalar09:30
ubuntumerhaba09:30
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firecrotchMetaMorfoziS: I'm using beryl, and I can't find a way to make it transparent09:31
ubuntukubuntu kurdum ama grup ayarlarn nasl aabilirim  u anda alan cd deyim yardmc olurmusunuz09:31
ubuntu????09:31
MetaMorfoziSalt and mouse wheel09:31
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MetaMorfoziSthat can set anything to transparent09:31
MetaMorfoziSiirc09:31
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firecrotchkooldock isn't like a normal window though09:32
ubuntutrke bilen yokmu yardm edecek09:32
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MetaMorfoziSoh, shit.. true.. then i don't know:)09:32
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manu_hi @ all09:33
firecrotchHi, manu_09:33
manu_i made the driver for my webcam working but i have noc picture in camorama :(09:34
manu_firecrotch: http://paste.debian.net/24833 here dmesg09:35
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Ind[y] I want to run 3 commands (I can make them one with &&) after everything else runs, on boot. How can I do this?09:35
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Admiral_ChicagoKonversation is sweet09:43
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firecrotchWhat's so "sweet" about it, Admiral_Chicago09:43
Admiral_Chicagofirecrotch: On Screen Display really09:43
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ffffu!hi09:52
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:52
dromerhi, can anyone recomend me mathematical/thermodynamics-software for linux?09:53
manu_no one can help me?09:53
ffffumanu_: what webcam?09:53
manu_ffffu: aiptek slim320009:53
manu_ http://paste.debian.net/2483309:53
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shinigami!webcam09:57
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:57
shinigamidromer: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html <scroll down to section 9..or search for math09:57
supernixhelp gnome has robbed me of my kde09:58
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firecrotchsupernix: What do you mean?10:00
supernixwell I have been trying my best to restore kdm to be the default login manager it was changed after a upgrade a month back and I decided to correct the problem10:01
dromerthnx shinigami !10:01
supernixbut now all my attempts have left me with a text boot screen and gnome as the default window manager10:02
shinigamidromer: welcome!10:02
shinigamisupernix: hi do u check the rcX.d ?10:02
shinigami!rc.d10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
shinigami!startup10:02
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup10:02
supernixnope10:02
shinigamiso u want kdm to start up?10:03
supernixyes10:03
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supernixkdm with the default desktop being Kubuntu10:03
supernixum kde10:03
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dromershinigami: not much on chemical thermodynamics though ;)10:04
shinigamican u try startx first supernix?10:05
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shinigamidromer: haha..sorry..10:05
supernixyes that is the only way I get any desktop going10:05
supernixI have to login term style then run startx10:05
shinigamisupernix: alright.. does it have gnome running?10:05
supernixyes10:05
supernixit shoots gnome right up after I type it10:05
shinigamiso u need to remove the gnome screen by using update-rc.d10:06
shinigamii know how to remove kdm by update-rc.d -f kdm remove10:06
shinigamiand adding back using update-rc.d kdm start 99 5 . stop 01 0 1 2 3 4 6 .10:06
supernixso you type update-rc.d kdm start 99 5 . stop 01 0 1 2 3 4 6 to restore kdm ?10:07
shinigamiwait gimmi a moment10:07
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nargKDE is detecting ctrl+alt+f1-f11 as fx+10 (aka f1 is f11), and it is messing with my vt's. Anyone seen this problem before?10:09
shinigamisupernix: u need to update-rc.d -f gdm remove (do this in root)10:11
shinigamisupernix: after that update-rc.d kdm defaults10:12
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phantom20can anyone tell me how can i get winmodems working on kubuntu?10:12
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supernixGosh thanks shinigami I sure hope this nukes it10:14
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supernixwill reboot wish me luck10:14
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shinigamihaha..good luck10:16
shinigami!modem10:17
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto10:17
shinigami!modem > phantom2010:17
shinigami!modem | phantom2010:18
ubotuphantom20: please see above10:18
phantom20yeah,winmodems10:18
shinigamiyeah10:18
shinigamigo to that link10:18
shinigaminarg: rephrase the problem?10:18
phantom20thanks10:18
shinigamiwelcome10:19
nargshinigami: basicly X is translating ctrl+alt+f1 into ctrl+alt+f11 and I don't know why10:19
mrigns!bug#110:19
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:19
shinigamiu mean u see something else when u press ctrl-alt-f1 instead ?10:20
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shinigami!tty10:20
ubotuTo get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).10:20
shinigaminarg: what do u see ps aux | grep tty ? do u see ur tty1 ?10:21
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nargyes...10:21
nargThe problem isn't the ttys, the problem is x isn't letting me use the f1-f6 stortcuts10:21
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nargHrm, even xev detects it as f1110:22
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shinigamioooooo u using beryl under aiglx?10:22
nargnerp10:22
nargvanilla x10:22
shinigamisorry i'm not familiar with that..i only know kde and gnome..10:23
nargThanks anyway ;)10:23
shinigamibut erm if i'm logging in a aiglx session in kde i would face the problem too10:23
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nargIts a lower level problem than I thought10:23
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shinigamisupernix: how? can't?10:23
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phantom20thnks guys,keep up the good work.we love u10:24
supernixshinigami: after I rebooted I still got a text mode login screen10:25
server__I just installed my first linux ever :P10:25
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server__bbl10:26
shinigamisupernix: it used to boot up in gnome?10:26
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intelikeywell debian is too big of a down load for me to install now.   i guess i'll use what i've got  dog gone it.10:29
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shinigami2ops10:32
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Tm_Tshinigami2: obs?10:33
intelikeyoos ?10:34
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Tm_Tintelikey: hmm, maybe oops10:34
shinigami2shinigami: <-- dc10:34
intelikeyyeah it was.10:34
shinigami2!ping10:34
ubotupong10:34
intelikey!pong10:35
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!10:35
server__does anyone know how I you use the 3d desktop? do I have to set it or just hold in some buttons?10:35
shinigami2!games10:35
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org10:35
shinigami2ahh..entertainment10:35
shinigami2don't they have bowling game or something10:37
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seven11what is the default path for the desktop trash10:40
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intelikey.local/*   i think10:41
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intelikeyi don't use a desktop so i really don't know10:42
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intelikeycp -ax /* /mnt/10:43
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seven11yes ~/.local/share10:44
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intelikeyi thought   i didn't know       <<< figure that one out any way you like.10:44
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intelikeykrap .    cp: cannot copy a directory, `/mnt', into itself, `/mnt/mnt'10:46
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intelikeycp -ax /* /mnt/    should not do that.10:46
intelikeygenii thanks.10:46
adrian99Im having a slight problem, when I try to go to the phpmyadmin page or my forums page it opens a download of a php file rather then loading the page any idea why?10:47
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geniiintelikey Heh! It's not for cleaning your equipment10:47
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intelikeyoh !10:47
manu_wo kann ich hilfe zu camorama bekommen?10:48
ffffuzz /.local/share/Trash/files10:48
adrian99Im having a slight problem, when I try to go to the phpmyadmin page or my forums page it opens a download of a php file rather then loading the page any idea why?10:48
manu_ops sry wrong chan10:48
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manu_where can i get help for camorama?10:48
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geniiadrian99: A few things. It may be no php is installed. Maybe the file is not executable or not in an apache dir where things get executed.10:48
adrian99well its the weirdest thing Ive seen and first time its happened to me10:49
intelikeyor some "setup" script needs ran10:49
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geniiintelikey: No, it would still try to execute the php10:50
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geniijust without any kind of default values for the phpmyadmin10:50
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adrian99hmm brb I gotta restart kdm10:51
vvvi tried to enter this command.. echo 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list                into my terminal.. but it says premission denied.. does anyone know the reason for this?10:51
intelikeygenii was it you that told me that i had to use  --one-file-system  cause -x is not working ?10:52
geniiintelikey: Nope :)10:52
intelikeywell make a note of it.      it's true.10:52
geniiwill do10:53
intelikeycp does not recognize -x10:53
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supernixHi I have the idea that maybe if I upgrade to Kubuntu 6.10 that might solve my kdm issue10:54
supernixanyone know how to upgrade from 6.06 lts to the 6.10 ?10:54
intelikey!upgrade10:54
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:54
vvvthanks tutuff i'll try another command10:54
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geniiadrian99: Anyhow, for php test make a file containing:10:56
genii<?php10:56
geniiphpinfo();10:56
genii?>10:56
geniiThen save it as something like test.php to /var/www and chmod +x the file. Then see what it does when you point your browser at it10:56
geniiDarn he left10:56
adrian99k10:56
adrian99lol10:56
geniiAh yer back10:56
adrian99yea I just installed my vid drive to I had to restart kdm lol10:57
geniiIf you still get where it shows as text or wants to d/l it lemme know10:57
vvvhow do i become the root tutuff?10:57
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adrian99yea it wants to save it....Im thinking something got left out when I mass installed the packages10:59
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vvvcould anyone tell me how to become the root user?11:00
geniiadrian99: try sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php511:00
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genii(if apache2 is the server)11:00
adrian99yeps11:01
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adrian99ah there we go works now lol11:02
adrian99thanks for the help : )11:03
geniinp11:03
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adrian99Im used to using the server install so Ive never really had to configure much but my PSU for my server fried so Im running my site off my main machine11:03
geniiadrian99: Yeah you may get some weirdnesses then. you likely want to install the perl module for apache as well11:04
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adrian99yea Im not even sure lol11:05
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intelikeywell i just installed boot loaders on four disks i should now be able to play musical boot loaders as long is desired.....11:06
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intelikeyas is ^11:06
intelikeythink i'll test them all right quick.11:07
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geniiadrian99 If you have some dev directory you put php or perl code in you may want to make an alias for it also in : /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default   file (as root edit)11:08
vvvdoes anyone know what i have to do.. to get a movie to play as my desktop wallpaper11:08
geniiwith +ExecCGI11:08
geniiwhy the hell would you even want to do that???11:08
adrian99wow that would be ram intensive lol11:09
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manu_http://paste.debian.net/2483911:09
vvvi have dual monitors always thought it would be fun to do.. saw a few videos of people doing it11:09
manu_i've installed my webcam correctly but i cant get any pciture11:09
manu_also not in camorama11:09
adrian99crap lol of course phpnuke is gonna make me re-install before I can restore the DB11:10
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geniiadrian99:  I hope you did a dumpdb11:10
adrian99oh yea11:10
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geniigood11:10
adrian99Ive learned the hard way lol11:10
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geniivvv I'm not so sure they are using a movie as the background rather than just using the second monitor to just play movies in full-screen mode11:11
intelikeyhmmmm  hdb failed to boot...   got the ole   lololololololololol11:12
adrian99Ive used phpBB, smf and could not figure out drupal but phpNuke seems pretty decent overall11:12
geniiadrian99: I'm not crazy about drupal either. phpbb is nice tho11:12
adrian99yea Im curious to see the final release of phpBB311:13
geniiadrian If you like php based stuff check out phprojekt11:13
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adrian99will have to look into it11:14
geniiAlso Horde framework11:14
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adrian99Im always interested in trying new softwares : )11:15
adrian99with a DB dump so long as the original directory is kept my forum should work once the DB is imported shouldn't it11:17
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geniiadrian99 With a raw dump you should even be able to import the table into whatever db program not neccesarily mysql11:18
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adrian99hmm well it appears everything is running lamp settings so its odd that I get a blank page from my forums even after importing the DB11:20
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geniiadrian99:  Did you restart the db server?11:21
adrian99hmm that may be it11:21
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adrian99nope didn't fix it11:22
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adrian99* Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ ok ] 11:23
adrian99 * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ ok ] 11:23
adrian99 * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.11:23
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geniirestart apache as well11:25
adrian99didn't work :S11:25
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geniiThere is some initital mysql command to create the initial dirs etc but I forget which atm11:25
geniiinitdb ?? Somesuch11:26
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geniino I think thats postgre11:27
geniiintelikey Any interesting finds? LOL11:27
adrian99Im not sure but its not working :S11:27
intelikeyi didn't know that was in there....11:28
intelikeya few grey hair11:28
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geniiadrian99: Does the dir /var/db/mysql exist?11:30
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adrian99nope11:31
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crazy_buscan anyone recommend a program that converts images into tiff files?11:31
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chijinwhy would you do that?11:32
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geniiadrian then you need to do the "create first database thing" but i forget atm. It may be somewhere in "man mysqladmin"11:32
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geniiadrian99: I am always getting postgre and mysql commands mixed up11:33
DARKMAN_DEVHI all, here is may first question: Why I cannot use "man" i konsole for "C/C++" languages11:33
crazy_buschijin: were you asking me?11:33
chijinyeah :-p11:34
DARKMAN_DEVI meen that "man printf" or "man cout" does not work11:34
adrian99hmm I think theres something I may have to config in the php.ini file so it works with mysql properly11:34
crazy_busbecause tiff is cool :) (and the ocr program only works with them)11:35
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geniiDARKMAN_DEV: The manpages are for *commands* available on the system (and some configuration files etc). For command syntax on C/C++ download a reference manual for it11:37
intelikeyDARKMAN_DEV may not be what you want,  but     libstdc++6-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)11:38
geniiintelikey Thx11:38
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DARKMAN_DEVThanks a lot.11:39
intelikeythe package manager is the place to look.11:39
intelikeyfor all your ubuntu needs see dpkg11:39
intelikeyvia any frontend you choose of course.11:40
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adrian99ok its still not working ....this is quite frustrating :S11:41
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geniiadrian99: I'm pretty sure you gotta start off with somethin like su mysql -c "mysqladmin --createdb somedbname "    or so11:42
geniiI know if you run the sql commands as not mysql user there is big probs11:43
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CarinArradrian99: have you look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP11:43
adrian99yeps11:44
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intelikeybutton borked...11:44
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geniiadrian99: You have libapache2-mod-auth-mysql   installed?11:47
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adrian99as far as I know yeps11:47
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txabiHi, i can't get working a BenQ FP202W LCD monitor with intel 915G at 1680x1050. I get a out of sync error. Tried modelines, faked bios native resolutions with 915resolution. Any hint? Anyone has had success? Thnx.11:48
Thomas`How do I configure Konqueror so that a single click in the location bar will select all the text in it?11:48
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geniiadrian99: How about php5-mysql    ?11:50
adrian99I believe so11:50
geniiadrian99:  Well, for kicks try sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql  php5-mysql       then restart apache11:52
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makihow can i clean the outdated versions of pakages from /var/cache/apt/arhives11:52
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adrian99I got a dist upgrade going at the moment but I just finished installing phpBB3 beta and it seems to be fine but I can't get my main forum to work11:54
geniidpkg --forget-old-unavail      might clean em out a little bit for you11:54
genii^maki^11:54
intelikeymaki  sudo apt-get clean11:55
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intelikeyjust get the coffee11:56
intelikey:)11:56
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adrian99this is the one thing I like better about phpBB2, its so much easier to get things setup and restored11:57
geniiadrian I think I'm still running phpbb 2.14 or so11:58
makiintelikey:this will clear all data from  /var/cache/apt/arhives or only the old pakages11:58
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genii2.015 rather :)11:58
intelikeyall11:59
adrian99I hade been using the most up to date before I swaped to phpNuke but I can deff see the advantages of phpBB over it in the DB area11:59
makii dont need that11:59
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intelikeys/clean/autoclean/12:00
intelikeyi must have misunderstood your Q12:00
adrian99well update finished and I checked those packages and they are installed12:00
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intelikeyJucato12:01
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Jucatohi intelikey12:02
adrian99crap I need the c header files for vmware12:03
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Jucatogenii: please pass me one :)12:04
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adrian99None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your12:04
adrian99running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for12:04
adrian99your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?12:04
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geniiheh :)12:06
myTB|Tanuvais /etc/rc.local executed as root? (so will starting xampp from there work?)12:07
Jucatoadrian99: you need to install 1) build-essential and 2) the linux-headers for your kernel12:07
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myTB|TanuvaOh I see, it must be executed as root. okay ;D12:07
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myTB|Tanuva(because it belongs to him)12:07
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intelikeymyTB|Tanuva yes everything that init starts has uid 012:09
intelikeyor -1  :)   but we don't talk about that.12:09
geniishh!12:09
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myTB|Tanuvalol12:10
intelikey:)12:10
adrian99thanks Jucato that did the trick : )12:10
Jucato:)12:11
hyumahello all!12:11
hyumaI've a question, how can I unpack a file.deb to see what there is inside?12:11
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adrian99it will be much easier to get my server back up if I use vmware with a server install lol12:12
mrignshyuma: just use ark12:12
Jucatohyuma: just click on it in Konqueror and it will open it in ark12:12
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geniiYes, it's just tarred12:14
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intelikeywhat is  Zeese  Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386 ?12:16
myTB|Tanuvahas anyone of you tried running windows using a xen kernel?12:17
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intelikeyi have no idea why  installing  ubuntu-base would be erroring out with that     Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-38612:18
geniiintelikey You can likely fix it by installing linux-image-2.6.15-28-38612:19
intelikeygenii   it's installed12:20
intelikeythat's what is running.12:20
intelikeyCannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386-sda12:21
intelikeydpkg: error processing udev (--configure):12:21
intelikey subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 112:21
intelikeyLinux 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT12:21
geniithe -sda  part is interesting12:21
hyumathanks mrigns and Jucato, now I try12:22
Thomas`How do I configure Konqueror so that a single click in the location bar will select all the text in it?12:22
intelikeyyeah i appended that on the initramfs.img file to distinguish it from the one that doesn't support scsi  that boots hda12:22
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geniiintelikey: Well just make another one12:24
intelikeyanother one what ?12:24
intelikeygenii that's a dpkg error   trying to setup  ubuntu-base12:24
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geniiintelikey Looks like it wants just xxxx-2.6.15-28-386   and not -sda12:25
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geniieg: Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-38612:25
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CarinArror /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-38612:26
CarinArrer12:26
intelikey:)12:26
intelikeyls  /lib/modules/12:26
CarinArror /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386 exists and it's looking for one with appended -sda12:26
CarinArrwhich does not12:26
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x`0ffhey guys, I've got a problem since I installed my kubunty a couple of days ago..12:26
intelikeynothing named initram anything exists in there....12:26
intelikeynever has12:27
x`0ffwhen I scroll down/up, my screen is like being cut in frames, it does not scroll smoothly12:27
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x`0ffanybody knows what this can be caused by ?12:27
geniiintelikey: Put a symlink there to /boot/ initrd.img-2.6.15-28-386 then12:28
intelikeygenii hehhe it's looking for kernel modules   i fixed it.  but why it was adding initramfs.img   i have no clur.12:29
intelikeyclue12:29
giangivaDid anybody try compiz on the latest Feisty (with kde-window-decorator)? It seems the magnetic borders are not working anymore... :-(12:29
geniiinteresting12:30
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adrian99well vm lamp install in progress now lol12:30
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CarinArrgiangiva: well i'm using beryl and things seem to be working okay for me12:31
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CarinArrapart from for some reason my window menues (when you right click menu bar)  don't have any beryl options12:32
geniiintelikey: I suspect because you have no usplash etc12:32
agani got this error when i start x, "API mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this x module has the version 1.0-9631 please..bla..bla..have the same version" how do i fix it? currently i have to reinstall the driver to make x start12:32
giangivaCarinArr: I'm trying to reinstall Feisty from scratch. It used to work some time ago.12:32
CarinArrgiangiva: i installed mine just a few days ago12:33
CarinArrand it has latest packages12:33
aganbut when i reboot the pc, the mismatch api come out again12:33
CarinArragan: you on edgy?12:33
aganyup12:33
giangivaCarinArr: My one is updated too but I have some mess in it. I'll try again this afternoon.12:34
geniiintelikey On my server box for instance nothing like that exists either. but on a stock dapper box it does12:34
CarinArragan: how did you install the driver?12:34
aganmanually from console12:34
CarinArrso not using the ubuntu package?12:34
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aganrunning "sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run  "12:35
intelikeygenii you mean there are files or links in /lib/modules/  with initram* names ?12:35
CarinArragan: i'd try using envy, it should clean things up for you12:35
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geniiintelikey: Yup12:35
CarinArr!envy | agan12:35
ubotuagan: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia912:35
intelikeyi've never seen that.    and did do default  (live CD) install a few times.12:35
CarinArrit's pretty good cause it finds previously installed bits and bobs and removes them properly before installing the new driver12:35
aganCarinArr, i was have tried envy, it will automatically install the latest nvidia driver, and currently the latest driver didnot support my nvidia card12:36
geniiintelikey A (gentoo-centric) explanation http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Initramfs12:36
CarinArragan: ah.. did you have nvidia-glx installed before?12:36
aganCarinArr, nope, but after i run the installation, nvidia-glx is installed automatically12:38
CarinArragan: you'll probably need to uninstall it completely12:38
CarinArrthere're howtos on the forum on how to go about it12:39
intelikeygenii ?    Search string 'modules/initram' not found12:39
CarinArrthere're quite a few packages that need to be purged12:39
aganhmm..ok i try it now...brb12:39
CarinArrproblem is if you don't purge them properly there're leftovers in the system, which is why you're getting the api mismatch thing12:39
CarinArri had it on dapper, exactly the same symptoms as well, worked fine before you rebooted it, then gave that message on new bootup, reinstalled the nvidia driver and all worked fine, until next reboot12:40
x`0ff  /J #ubuntu12:40
aganok..now it nvidia-glx has removed..now i'm booting..brb12:40
geniiintelikey All I can tell you is on my non-gui 6.06 box they aren't there but exact same kernel (non -server) on standard 6.06 it is there when the usplash is there12:40
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intelikeyin  /lib/modules/    hmmmm   ok.12:41
_root_hello guys12:41
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geniiintelikey I have a non usplash and a usplash and it appears on the usplash box but not the other one , thats with a gui12:41
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_root_hello12:42
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intelikeyi'm installing usplash to see if that's the cause12:42
_root_how can i upload files to my ftp server ??12:42
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smilehi12:43
genii_root_ Does the ftp server work?12:43
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_root_i have domine in ftp.members.lycos.co.uk and i have user name and password12:44
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_root_i want to upload files to this ftp12:44
genii_root_ Then some ftp client like maybe the fireftp extension for firefox12:44
charlesHKGhow can i resize my monitor resolution?  for some reason I booted my computer and now I have 640 X 480 resolution, but before I was at 1024 X 768.  The  in system settings the slide bar  wont change to a higher resolution...I cant see .....sssshh...12:44
_root_i try to use konsole12:44
CarinArrcharlesHKG: sounds like there's a problem with the x server12:44
_root_ftp and Open12:44
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_root_but when i connect i cant upload a thing12:45
CarinArrcharlesHKG: did you install a new graphics driver or anything else that might have caused that?12:45
genii_root_ Then put or get12:45
_root_if i try to upload a file only the empty file will be uploaded12:45
_root_sure i use put12:45
charlesHKGnope.....just switched over from kubuntu to windows then back12:45
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genii_root_: You may need to put it in binary mode first then12:45
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_root_i try in windows and kubuntu12:45
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_root_what is the binary mode /??12:46
CarinArr_root_: you can't resize it in either windows or ubuntu?12:46
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CarinArrer sorry12:46
CarinArrheh12:46
CarinArrconfused you with charlesHKG12:46
_root_what is the binary mode ?/12:46
_root_1010010112:46
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_root_??12:47
genii_root_:  after you have a ftp prompt put "binary"12:47
charlesHKGso you suggest try resizing in windows...Il try anything...12:47
charlesHKGat least once.12:47
charlesHKGbrb12:47
genii_root_:  It tells to use binary mode and not ascii to transfer files12:47
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CarinArrerrr. that's not what i meant;) oh well.. he's off12:47
_root_ftp> open ftp.members.lycos.co.uk12:48
_root_Connected to ftp.members.lycos.co.uk.12:48
_root_220 212.78.204.231 FTP server ready12:48
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_root_Name (ftp.members.lycos.co.uk:root): hola197312:48
_root_331 Password required for hola1973.12:48
_root_Password:12:48
CarinArr!paste | _root_12:48
ubotu_root_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:48
_root_230 Welcome to Tripod UK.12:48
genii_root_:  Also if you try to "put" a file that is not in the directory from where you ran ftp it will make an empty one on the server12:48
_root_Remote system type is UNIX.12:48
_root_Using binary mode to transfer files.12:48
_root_ftp> binary12:48
_root_200 Type set to I12:48
_root_i try this12:48
_root_what to do now ???12:48
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geniiAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGG12:48
intelikeynice flood12:48
intelikeyremarkable deluge12:49
geniiWell not put something like     put /my/path/filename.ext12:49
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geniieg:     put /home/me/index.html12:50
_root_can i compile visual software with gcc ???12:50
geniiputs the file index.html onto the remote server now12:50
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aganCarinArr, still not work12:50
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_root_ can i compile visual software with gcc ???12:51
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_root_????????/12:51
CarinArragan: i didn't quite mean fo ryou to try in windows, i confused you with root and though you said it didn't work in windows either12:51
genii_root_ the short answer is yes12:51
_root_but how ?12:51
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genii_root_  That is beyond the scope of this channel to explain12:52
_root_ok thank you genii12:52
CarinArragan: do you remember what you had been doing in kubuntu before you rebooted into windows ? (i,e before it stopped working)12:52
genii_root_  If you know how to program in C/C++ then you create a graphical program for some gui like KDE or Gnome etc then you use gcc to create the binary. This is the basic idea12:53
aganCarinArr, yes, it stop working since i installed nvidia driver12:53
CarinArragan: that's what i asked you about earlier;)12:53
CarinArrone sec12:53
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CarinArragan: you might want to try searching www.ubuntuforums.org and see if anyone has the same problem12:55
geniiintelikey Ahh quiet again :) I wonder how long this will last12:55
solomon_i had the same problem12:55
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intelikeymodprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/modules.dep: No such12:55
intelikeyfile or directory12:55
intelikeyabout that long12:55
charlesHKGMy resolution in windows is fine....kubuntu.....640 X 480....HeLp!!!12:56
aganok..i guess i know why this api mismatch is happen, when i installing nvidia driver i saw a warning, it said "nvidia installer has unable to determine the correct x library installation path and will install the nvidia x library to /usr/lib"12:56
intelikeyi think the package management system is totally borked.12:56
aganand it said "please correct any pkg-config"12:56
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geniiintelikey Somethings definitely messed12:56
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CarinArrsorry agan now i confused YOU with charlesHKG12:57
intelikeyyep.   and it's all in the   .postinst scripts12:57
CarinArragan: you'll probably need to purge more than nvidia-glx12:57
intelikeyand postrm  but not as bad.12:57
CarinArri.e. nvidia-kernel-common, and other packages related to the nvidia install12:58
CarinArractually, ubuntuforums have more than one thread regarding this, and that's what they suggest.. they're also a bit more specific about what needs removing12:58
CarinArrbefore i add more confusion i'm going to go paint my garage12:59
aganok then12:59
intelikeysome script writer needs to lay off the crack, or off the keyboard they don't mix very well.12:59
geniiI suggest dayglo orange as a nice lively alternative for a garage colour :)12:59
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geniiscares off intruders and gets the neighbours talking01:00
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h0axanyone familiar with metasploit on linux ?01:00
solomon_agan: i'm new to ubuntu, but when I (tried) to install the nvidia driver on slackware, it took the liberty of reconfiguring X for me, making a new xorg.conf, which didn't work, but it DID make a backup of my original01:00
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_root_can i compile windows software from linux ???01:01
geniiYes when you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it likes to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:01
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genii_root_ If it's written in C/C++ sure01:02
agansolomon, i was once installed nvidia driver on another cpu..and yup it took me days to make it work, but the result satisfied me coz i have a nice 3d desktop cube with beryl01:02
genii_root_ It's called cross-platform compiling01:02
leiarAnybody with audacity experience here?01:02
solomon_agan: i decided it was more trouble than it was worth for me, and use the "nv" driver, but I'm sure nvidia xorg-config made a backup of your original.  you can just mv it back01:03
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leiarI want to record several tracks, but I need to listen to track one when I record track two. Is that possible, in Audacity?01:03
intelikey_root_ question is not can you but why would you01:03
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aganyup..i know that, but if i move it back then i can't run beryl ;)01:04
solomon_not even with the "nv" driver?01:04
agannv driver give me direct rendering=no01:04
genii_root_  If you want to get laughed at go to channel ##C and ask about that :)01:04
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solomon_well, crap...sorry, but I didn't spend much time on the nvidia driver.  i thought u just lost your config file and wanted it back.  I gave up on it :(01:05
intelikeygenii is the /lib/modules/initramfs*   a link or dir or file ?01:05
geniiintelikey Heh :) He did go there01:05
aganok..anyway thanks01:05
geniiintelikey lemme look01:06
intelikey:)01:06
intelikeysome people like being abused i guess01:06
geniiintelikey directories. Not links either01:06
intelikeyk01:07
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geniiintelikey a buncha files under em01:07
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geniiyou want a list01:07
genii?01:07
aganbtw, what is the minimum specification for kubuntu 6.10?01:07
just-this-timebig problem ubuntu edgy alternateCD cannot mount CDROm while in rescue mode01:08
geniiagan I'd suggest 128 Mb ram, a P2-266 and about 4Gb HD01:08
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intelikeyoh    no...   well that's definitely the offending portion01:08
intelikeyRemoving usplash ...01:08
intelikeyCannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386-sda01:08
intelikeydpkg: error processing usplash (--purge):01:08
twiztrHey everyone.01:08
agangenii, thanks01:09
geniiagan You're welcome01:09
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just-this-timenew coreduo MB a challenge  for liinux01:09
geniijust-this-time: Locks up booting livecd?01:10
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just-this-timeis there an updated alternate edgy suitable with new MB?01:11
aganxubuntu can run on P1 200mmx, but it said that its strongly recommended 128 mb ram..hmmm01:11
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intelikeygenii i can make /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386-sda    a symlink to   /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386     and it seems to satisfy the package manager  but that's quite, unusual01:11
just-this-timeshould I go native or legacy on bios01:11
just-this-timeno genii just doesnot detect cdrom although boots from it so I cannot chroot from CD01:12
just-this-timeneed to fix grub after cloning01:12
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intelikeyagan "P1 200mmx"  hehhe   kubuntu can run, does run on a p1 mmx 100mhz box here.01:13
just-this-timenow mbr is MSwXP maybe I put grub with supergrub01:13
geniijust-this-time: Good idea is to go legacy on bios for sata controller so it gets seen as an IDE device01:13
crubeI need a little help. I'm trying to burn an iso image with K3b. I have an RW DVD, and K3b doesn't format it. It says "Formatted in DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite mode" and says "No need to format..." "It may simply be overwritten", but when I try to burn an iso image it says "Please insert empty DVD"01:13
crubeIt doesn't format it even if I use "Force" mode01:13
aganhmm...01:14
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just-this-timegenii problem cloning was cluster changed from 32k(on 160gb) to 16k( 80 gb) now grub wont start01:14
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geniiThats a tricky one01:16
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just-this-timegenii: no avail legacy in bios did not help resue disk mount the cdrom01:17
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geniijust-this-time: How did you "clone" your drive? dd or something?01:17
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just-this-timeacronis01:18
_root__hello01:18
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intelikeyi think the best way for me to fix this thing is change a whole bunch of update- scripts into symlinks to /bin/true01:19
joheyI have made something bad with KDE. Now, when clicking System Settings->Users and Groups (or whatever the English name is), I get an error telling me the module Users and Groups cannot be loaded.01:19
just-this-timeI guess cloning to same size 160 gb > 160 gb wouldnot be a problem in my case geometry changed01:19
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geniijust-this-time: Thats usually the mistake ppl make when copying a smaller driver to alarger drive01:20
joheyAnd I get two suggestions that are totally irrelevant.01:20
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johey(Something about some error at last KDE update or something about having old third party modules left)01:21
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geniijust-this-time: There's not much you can do now, unfortunately01:21
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just-this-time160gb still boots ok genii01:22
just-this-timeIam experimenting here for cloning efficiently01:22
agandamn!! i fix it,somebody in #beryl remind me..i forget disabling nv driver in linux-restricted module...01:22
_root__hello01:22
agannever told so easy01:22
_root__i nid help!01:22
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genii!ask | _root__01:23
ubotu_root__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:23
Jucatojohey: not really sure if this will work, but try reinstalling the kde-guidance package01:23
twiztrIs there any good starter guides like ubuntuguide.org anyone knows of?01:23
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just-this-timewhat disk cloning app  in linux env can be used ?01:23
_root__asking for private msg01:23
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joheyJucato: A-ha... Hm. dpkg-reconfigure, or what?01:24
geniijust-this-time: And you can't boot even to livecd now??01:24
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just-this-timegenii I have alternateCD01:24
Jucatojohey: just plain reinstall. either in Adept or sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance01:24
just-this-timedunno about liveCD01:24
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vvvwhat do i need to run active wallpaper? like wallpaper that moves might be called x wallpaper01:25
intelikeyproblem solved !01:25
geniijust-this-time: The livecd is the default installation cd. It boots up to kde off the cdrom. Sorta like knoppix etc. Very useful for reinstalling grub and so on01:25
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intelikeyalmost as good as the alternate install cd01:26
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just-this-timegenii MB is DG96501:26
agani install kubuntu 6.10 using livecd01:26
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just-this-timeeven 160gb had trouble mounting CDS from within KDE01:26
intelikeygenii not a chance.01:26
intelikeyi think i just made it the most stable ubuntu box running.01:27
just-this-timealternateCD gives more flexibility01:27
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vvv.join ubuntu01:27
joheyJucato: Hm. It sais reinstallation of kde-guidance isn't possible because it cannot be fetched (warning for bad translation).01:27
vvvops01:27
just-this-timestill it is not 965intel ready01:27
wimpiesFor some reason I can no longer format DVD-RW in k3b ... anybody suggestions ?01:27
joheyJucato: However, my apt source is just fine.01:28
just-this-timeis feisty 965intel ready ?01:28
intelikeywimpies device is not listed in /etc/fstab is it?01:28
geniijust-this-time I can't remember if there is a rescue kernel on that one. If so you can boot  to "rescue"   then reinstall grub01:28
wimpiesno it isn't01:29
intelikeyyou can boot to install and switch tty's and install grub too genii01:29
wimpiesintelikey : it shouldn't (and needn't)01:29
geniiintelikey Ah yeah forgot about busybox01:29
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intelikeywimpies k01:30
just-this-timegenii: now put 80gbhitachi as secondary sata to perfectly booting 160gb WD can I clone from KDE ? jucato genii anyone ?01:30
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joheyJucato: I get a similar message when using Adept.01:31
intelikeyjust-this-time cloning partitions ?01:31
geniibetter not to "clone" between different size drives. Safer to just mount both and then copy the crap over01:31
cotyhey can someone tell me why kubuntu wont mount my psp01:31
cotyIt used to01:31
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cotybut now i get an error01:31
just-this-timenope intelikey cloning entire disk so it boots as the original01:31
coty[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab01:32
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just-this-timeintelikey: just as acronis and ghost do it01:32
intelikeyjust-this-time size differs...  not a good call.01:32
cotymount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:32
geniiThere *is* a linux ghost01:32
cotyintelikey: Do you have any idea of why this is?01:33
intelikeycoty mount /dev/sda1 /media/<something>01:33
intelikeysudo that01:33
cotyok01:33
just-this-timenow 80gb is at sdb01:33
just-this-timesda is the booted (sda7) (sda1 is the windows)01:34
Thomas`How do I type arbitrary characters? I want to type 0x1F (unit separator) but I can't work out how.01:34
cotyintelikey: do i put <something> on the end01:34
intelikeyyes and coty if that's usb it can move from sda to sdb ...01:34
intelikeycoty no01:34
joheyJucato: If it matters, I think I know what sequence of steps I did to accieve this problem. I first clicked System Settings->Personal->User account, then I clicked the icon to change my avatar. It said that the system admistrator won't allow me to change picture. I made other settings and clicked apply. Then I tried Users and Groups, but it was no longer working.01:34
intelikeyyou interpret the <something>01:34
cotyintelikey: hmm?01:35
just-this-timeintelikey: size differs I know but ghost windows combination worked ok with differrent sizes01:35
intelikeyjust-this-time so use ghost01:35
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intelikeycoty as in /media/sda1   or media/disk  or what ever is there.01:35
cotyok01:36
cotyi see01:36
intelikeycoty  the mount point is just an empty dirrectory.01:36
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cotyintelikey: am i to get output01:36
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intelikeywhen you mount a file system on the empty dir then what ever is in the fs is seen in that dir,01:36
intelikeycoty not if it mounts.01:36
intelikeycoty in linux   no error   means  no error.01:37
cotyintelikey: will i got no output and it did not mount01:37
cotyintelikey: and i still get an error01:37
intelikeycoty how do you know it did not ?    ls /media/<something>01:37
cotyintelikey: one sec01:37
cotyintelikey: it does not show that my psp is connected01:38
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intelikeywhere ?01:38
cotyintelikey: i get cdrom  cdrom001:38
intelikeyok.     #  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/cdrom  #01:39
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cotyi get the same error01:40
intelikeyif no output      # ls /media/cdrom  #     any output from that ?01:40
intelikeyok what error ?01:40
coty[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab01:40
cotymount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:40
geniiaha01:40
intelikeywrong device node.01:41
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cotyintelikey: so what should i do01:42
intelikeysee if    # sudo fdisk -l #      will list it for you.     or   # lsusb #   maybe?01:42
intelikeyi'm not sure i can tell the device node from the output of lsusb.....01:43
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cotyBus 001 Device 003: ID 054c:01c8 Sony Corp01:43
cotythat would be my psp im sure01:43
intelikeysdc  ?01:43
intelikeytry changing the sda1 to sdc101:44
cotyok01:44
cotyso what should i put in01:44
cotysudo /mount/sdc101:44
intelikey#  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/cdrom  #01:44
cotyintelikey: I got this kimsommer is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.01:45
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intelikeywell  i suppose that you didn't use sudo befor ?      and that explains the problem.01:46
intelikey!sudo | coty01:47
ubotucoty: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:47
bcnethelp me plss01:47
hw_has (k)ubuntu an own console package management client? (besides dselect)01:47
bcnettoday i install kubuntu 6.1001:47
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cotyintelikey; i have done that01:47
intelikeycoty what is the account that you setup when you installed the system ?    use it and add your new account name to the admin group.01:48
bcnetbut i do not know the username01:48
cotyok01:48
cotyim using my moms01:48
manu_hi when i change the color settings for my webcam they are resetet after a restart of kopete :( can you help?01:48
cotybut my account is the first one01:48
bcnetso i cann't login01:48
bcnethelp me01:48
joheyhw_: apt-get?01:48
cotyso i should use it?01:48
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joheybcnet: You was asked to choose a user name when you installed Kubuntu. Use that user name.01:49
hw_johey: That is from debian as well =)01:49
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intelikeycoty only the first account created can do things like mounting fs's   and other admin type things.    you would be better off to setup something like  "pmount" genii could help you with that i think.01:49
joheyhw_: Yes. Kubuntu is based on Debian.01:49
Betzeferit is debian01:50
Betzeferjust better01:50
joheyNo. It's Kubuntu. :)01:50
Betzeferlol01:50
cotyintelikey: ok thanks01:50
intelikeygenii can you walk coty through setting up pmount ?01:50
geniicoty If you want to mount something from all users, put the option "user" in the fstab file where it has like rw,auto01:50
intelikeyi all done in for the day.01:50
cotygenii: were is that01:50
intelikeygenii this is about his third day in linux.  but he can copy and paste like a mad man.01:51
intelikey:)01:51
cotylol01:51
cotydont make fun of me :)01:51
intelikeyi wasn't.  that last part is a complement.01:52
bcnetjohey: the installation didn't offer any username to fill, just password01:52
cotyim learning01:52
cotyi know sudo01:52
coty:)01:52
intelikeyi'm out.   later all.01:52
cotycya01:52
geniicoty Every hard drive and so on you can mount (and external ones like what a psp would get recognised as) have an entry in a file called /etc/fstab     To edit this file you need to change it as root user controlling the text editor.01:52
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cotygenii: ok01:53
geniicoty A thing like ps for instance would get recognised as /dev/sda1  normally01:53
bcnetany one help pls01:53
cotyyea it is01:54
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geniicoty So you open the file in some text editor and look for the line having /dev/sda1 in it. At the end of the line will be some things like rw,auto      like that. You want to make rw,auto   into rw,auto,user01:54
cotyok01:54
cotycould you give the command i need to put in01:54
geniicoty This will let any user mount and use the drive01:54
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DeepoHI01:55
cotyhello01:55
mrignss-ata is regognised as sda too01:55
DeepoI have a problem with kubuntu01:55
geniicoty Sure. in Konsole type:     sudo nano /etc/fstab01:55
jervinebcnet: you could always boot from your CD (maybe DVD) again, mount the filesystem you have installed kubuntu to, and then cat the /etc/passwd file to see the username that has been created01:55
cotyok01:55
Deepothe netword doesn't work at start01:55
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geniicoty did it open the file in a command-line text editor now?01:56
Deepoif I do /etc/init.d/networking restart it works, but starting normally I don't have network01:56
cotygenii: no01:56
cotygenii: should i do it from the first user01:56
bcnetjervine: how to mount the filesystem01:56
geniicoty Well, you need sudo privelege, so yes :)01:56
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cotyXD01:56
cotyok01:56
bcnetjervine: i dont have live cd01:56
DeepoIm trying kubuntu 7.0401:57
jervinebcnet: ok - so mounting from the liv CD is no good... how did you install kubuntu?01:57
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vvvhow do i become a root user?01:58
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apokryphosvvv: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.01:58
geniicoty A quick way to toggle back and forth between KDE and a terminal is:   ctrl-alt-f1 (for terminal)    then alt-f7   to get back into KDE. You can login to this termianl as any user01:59
vvvty01:59
bcnetjervine: just install it like usually, the step : first choose language> keyboard> hostname> then password >and the rest. there isn't any username01:59
genii!sudo > vvv01:59
jervinebcnet: ok, but the computer had to boot from 'something'?01:59
bcnetjervine: from the cd01:59
vvvthanks for the link u01:59
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manuel_hi02:00
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manuel_i have installed wine on 64-bit-kubuntu but when i start a game it is only in the top left corner and not fullscreen but it schould be02:00
geniivvv Yer welcome :)02:00
bcnetjervine: i've cd kubuntu-alternate-6.1002:00
geniicoty Are you still with me?02:01
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jervinebcnet: ok, I've not seen that one... does it not offer some kind of rescue mode/livCD as a boot option?02:01
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manuel_the guys from winehq says that my x is not good configured02:02
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bcnetjervine: the options : install with text mode, install with oem mode, install with command-line, repair the broken filesystem, boot from the hardisk02:02
cotygenii: XD02:03
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bcneti'm so confuse with this kubuntu version02:03
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jervinebcnet: just out of interest which option did you choose?02:03
geniicoty OK... did you see what I said anout ctrl-alt-f1 alt-f7 ?02:03
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cotygenii: i know that already02:03
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bcnetjervine: install with oem mode02:03
geniicoty Good :)02:03
cotygenii: daskreech taught me02:03
geniicoty So you now changed the /etc/fstab file as some user with sudo rights by doing sudo nano /etc/fstab02:04
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genii?02:04
cotygenii: yea02:04
cotygenii: be right back02:04
jervinebcnet: is there a reason you're installing with this disk rather than a liveCD?02:04
geniicoty OK02:04
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malcherhi02:05
geniiI'm getting a coffee, back in 2-3 minutes02:05
malcheris there a way to pass any options to packages in adept... e.g. if you want certain modules to be included or so?02:06
bcnetjervine: no02:06
cotygenii: Could not enter folder /media/sda102:06
cotygenii: i get that now02:06
malcheror, to explain it in another way... something alike "flags"02:06
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jervinebcnet: ok :) I'm not sure if the password you set during the install will give you access to runlevel1. basically what you want to do is get the PC booted so that you can read the /etc/passwd file on the partition you installed kubuntu to02:07
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jervinebcnet: when you boot it at the moment, does it just get to the KDE login screen?02:07
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bcnetjervine: ok, thanks for your help! now i'm trying to reinstall the kubuntu, if i have same problem, i'll back to dapper 'n my mi**sft02:09
cotygenii: today i am hoping is going to be a good day for the psp hacking scen if dark-alex ( a well know psp hacker) releases his custom firmware02:09
vvvwhat i need to do is move codec into a user folder.. but when i try and drag it doesn't work.. could someone give me a example.. of the commands i'd use to move a folder into another folder02:09
bcnetjervine: thanks for the info02:09
vvvlike sudo move <file name> to <folder name>  would that work?02:09
bcnetjervine: yes kde login02:10
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jervinebcnet: no users listed on the left hand side I guess...02:10
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bcnetjervine: u're wright02:10
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bcnetjervine: so i should i do next02:11
mrignsvvv: sudo mv <file> <target>02:11
cntb!ssh02:11
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:12
vvvty mrigns02:12
jervinebcnet: either reinstall, or see if you can get the root partition mounted somehow to inspect the /etc/passwd file02:13
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bcnetjervine: ok,02:13
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Betzeferhow do i see what kernel am i ?02:17
Betzeferwhat version02:17
mrignsuname -r02:18
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manu_ehere can i get kopete support?02:18
mrigns#kopete02:18
manu_my sttings for webcam color, brightness etc arent saved, after restarting kopete they have other positions02:18
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mrignsmanu_ /j #kopete02:19
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geniiOK I have new coffee now and am returned :)02:21
geniicoty OK I have new coffee now and am returned :)02:21
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geniiDurn, musta got tired o waiting02:22
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cotygenii: im here02:22