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Yorokobibill__k, if you set the schema to a transparent one, click the Save button, then click Settings -> Save as default, then yes12:11
bill__kYorokobi: looks like it's working.  thanks for the help!12:12
Yorokobinp bill__k12:12
Lewixhow do i update it to a newer version12:13
Lewixamsn12:13
tulio__how do I add the multiverso to adept package manager?12:13
tulio__*multiverse12:13
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leiar_ I need help to add audio to a video with ffmepg, if possible12:13
Chemicalvamphmmm just finished installing eclipse, now when i start it, i get the busy mouse icon and nothing12:14
dwidmanntulio__: in adept, go to manage repositories, find the line that looks like "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy main" or similar, and put multiverse on the end of the line after main, simple as that12:14
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dwidmannif you have the update, security, and/or backports repositories enabled, you'll need to add it to those too12:14
Yorokobitulio__, may as well add universe while you're at it12:14
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Lewixdwidmann, how do i update it12:15
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tulio__there is only br.archive.ubuntu12:15
tulio__is there any difference?!12:15
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dwidmannHmm, that would be trickier lewix12:15
dwidmanntulio__: that's just what mirror you're using, no problem therer12:15
Yorokobitulio__, it should look like deb http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu main restricted universe multiverse12:16
ragnorkanyone knows how to install the Kernel Headers?12:16
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Lewixdwidmann, alrigth how do I install the newer version and get rid of what i just installed12:16
boblenythanks dwidmann, I found it, I will see how this works...12:16
dwidmannLewix: well, first, just sudo apt-get remove amsn to remove what you just installed.12:16
Chemicalvampanybody know why eclipse isnt running?12:16
bill__kYorokobi: is it normal that konsole transparenc only shows the background under it, and not other windows12:16
dwidmannTo get the newer you'll either have to pull the one from the feisty repos along with all dependencies, or compile from source. Pick your poison, neither way is particularly fun.12:16
YorokobiChemicalvamp, do you get any output when you try running it from a shell (konsole) ?12:16
Yorokobibill__k, yes.12:17
bill__kok12:17
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dwidmannChemicalvamp: run it in konsole and tell us what errors you're getting12:17
Chemicalvampi see12:17
Yorokobibill__k, you need the konsole-alpha package from the beryl/trevino repo and beryl working to get full transparency12:17
ragnorkAnyone knows where to get/how to install Linux Kernel headers for kubuntu?12:17
boblenyYeah, this is better it isn't eating my ram so fast!12:17
boblenythanks, bye12:17
Lewixdwidmann, thanks its done. now?12:18
bill__kYorokobi: maybe later.  I'm guessing that will create a whole new set of problems as I have 2 screens and am using ati's bigdesktop12:18
tulio__no difference12:18
dwidmannbobleny, should be sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname-r`12:18
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Yorokobiragnork, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic (for the generic kernel package)12:18
Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13437/ so whats my corse of action here?12:18
Yorokobibill__k, true enough :)12:18
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Chemicalvampsudo apt-get install java?12:19
YorokobiChemicalvamp, yes, install the java jdk12:19
Yorokobisun-java-jdk????12:19
dwidmannlewix: which part? The removing of the old is done, but I'm supposing you haven't installed a newer version yet12:19
Chemicalvampi got jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin sitting here on my desktop12:19
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Chemicalvampim new.. i THINK i know how to install it, but im not sure12:20
SanneChemicalvamp: java ist in the ubuntu repositories, better install software from there if it's available.12:20
dwidmannChemicalvamp: pull up konsole, chmod +x jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin12:21
dwidmannthen run it with ./jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin12:21
Lewixdwidmann, the old is removed ..now I want to install the newer ersion12:21
YorokobiChemicalvamp, you may have to run it as root (sudo ./jre...12:22
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dwidmannYorokobi: it extracts in the same directory, so running it as root shouldn't be necessary12:22
Chemicalvampsudo chmod +x jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin -->  chmod: cannot access `jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.b': No such file or directory12:23
ragnorkWhat is GCC?12:23
dwidmannlewix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+package/amsn here is where you can find the latest12:23
Yorokobidwidmann, running as root allows a global install instead of a user-specific install IIRC12:23
dwidmannragnork: gnu compiler collection12:23
Sanneragnork: gnu c compiler12:23
ragnorkkk thanks12:23
Lewixdwidmann, edgy12:23
Sannedwidmann: ah12:23
dwidmannlewix, there won't be any other upgrades for edgy, so if you want something newer you'll have to pull from feisty or compile from source12:24
Lewixdwidmann, how do I do that please and is it going to work properly12:24
Yorokobilewix, alternatively, you can use other chat clients that support the MSN messenger transport (Gaim, Kopete, Psi)12:24
Chemicalvampsudo chmod +x ~/desktop/jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin didnt work either....12:25
LewixYorokobi, im looking for the best one12:25
LewixYorokobi, similar to msn12:25
ragnorkUmm. a last one, how to see the content of a dir from the Konsole?12:25
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Yorokobiheh, best and similar are not always the same :)12:25
Chemicalvampls isnt it?12:25
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Yorokobiragnork, ls12:25
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Moby_DickGood afternoon12:26
dwidmannlewix: well, after you've downloaded the *.deb, right click it, and go to kubuntu package menu -> install12:26
SanneChemicalvamp: so, again, you could just enable multiverse and install sun-java5-jre from adept/synaptic/apt.12:27
dwidmannif it fails, then you're going to have to start downloading some of its dependencies from the feisty branch also, which will likely be a bit tedious, but should work12:27
Lewixhow do I do that from the cmd dwidmann  and thank you. aligato12:27
YorokobiSanne, unless Chemicalvamp wants to use the 64bit Java libraries12:27
dwidmannfrom cmd? dpkg --install thefilename.deb12:27
Chemicalvampyes i need 64 bit12:27
dwidmann64-bit ftw!12:27
Chemicalvamp32-bit FTL12:28
SanneChemicalvamp, Yorokobi: sun java is avaliable for 64 bit. The mozilla plugin may be not, though.12:28
YorokobiChemicalvamp, are you going to have Java access more than 4 GB of memory? That's about the only reason I've seen anyone use 64bit java12:29
dwidmannSanne: the plugin isn't.12:29
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Sannedwidmann: yeah, as I said ;). But for eclipse I guess it isn't needed.12:29
Moby_Dickdoes anybody here know good cd burning software for kde?12:29
SanneMoby_Dick: k3b12:29
YorokobiMoby_Dick, k3b12:30
Chemicalvampi dont know, i run an amd64 notebook, a bug fix for eclipse said to use 64 bit.. i guess12:30
dwidmannYorokobi: unless you need to use closed source legacy applications that haven't been ported to amd64, I can see no viable reason why you would want to take a performance hit (i386 doesn't win in any category except memory consumption)12:30
Moby_Dickk3b seems to ruin a lot of cds12:30
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Chemicalvampi just want it to work! lol12:30
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dwidmannk3b is the best one out. If you're having trouble with it, then upgrade to k3b 1.012:30
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dwidmannDefinitely make sure to get dvd+rwtools version 7.0 also12:31
YorokobiMoby_Dick, you could try cdrecord but k3b is better IMHO12:31
SanneChemicalvamp: well, I don't use eclipse, but I have sun java installed from the repositories, and I'm also on amd64, to run some java software. You can try, I guess.12:31
tarelerulzHow do you unrar stuff ?12:31
dwidmannYorokobi: k3b is a frontend to cdrecord ...12:31
Yorokobitarelerulz, install the unrar package and use either ark or 'unrar ??.rar'12:31
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Yorokobidwidmann, haha, I did not know that.12:32
Aldatarelerulz if you have ark just click the .rar12:32
tarelerulzI use the free unrar and all ,but it don't ahve it in ark12:32
Moby_Dickokay k3b 1.0, mine  is 0.12, and it does not upgrade with the apt-get update12:32
Sesshoumarumy hdd won't mount.. HELP12:33
dwidmannYorokobi: it can also use cdrdao, I think it uses cdrdao by default though now that I think about it12:33
Lewixdwidmann, so how do i do that from the command line? apt-get install *.deb?12:33
Mantishello all....I'm new and I have a question about boot loaders12:33
tulio__does anyone know why my kaffeine play avi files but there no image or sound appearing?12:33
dwidmannMoby_Dick: yeah ... easiest way is probably to fetch from source, unless you're in the mood to upgrade to feisty :P12:33
tarelerulzKaffieine does that to me too tulio12:33
dwidmanntulio__: avi is just a container format. It's all dependant on what video and audio codecs are used, and if you have support for those12:34
Sesshoumarutry vlc player12:34
tarelerulzvlc don't seem to do menus12:34
dwidmannI can play virtually anything in kaffeine. Especially with the kmplayer backend, hehehe12:34
Chemicalvampsudo chmod +x /home/bott/Desktop/jre-1_5_0_11-linux-amd64.bin worked12:34
tulio__dwidmann: i think a have installed all the packages necessary for playing that12:34
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Sesshoumaru? menus12:34
MantisWhen I installed Kubuntu the bootloader automatically boots into linux after a few seconds, is there an easy way to change this?  I'd kinda like it to go to windows until I'm more comfortable with linux12:34
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Sesshoumarui play alot of different formats on it12:35
tulio__tarelerulz: does vlc play on your pc?12:35
dwidmanntulio__: wouldn't happen to know what video and audio codecs that particular avi uses would you?12:35
YorokobiMantis, grub should give you a menu if it detected a Windows install12:35
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gravespkDwidmann: Ok, OS installed... system boots fine.... how can I check the status of the disks?12:35
Lewixhmm and how do I delette a folder from the cmd line again?12:35
tarelerulzYes it vlc plays on my pc .12:35
tulio__dwidmann: dont know12:35
tarelerulzI read iso file for jap movie and it don't read the menu12:35
tulio__ill try vlc12:36
Lewixand how to I go back from a directory12:36
tarelerulzIt does see iso file which is hot for movies12:36
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dwidmanngravespk: I think it's mdadm-monitor or something, I'd have to look it up. I don't really have much use for RAID myself (I do have a nice lvm setup though)12:36
MantisI did get a menu, I didn't see anything about which OS it would boot into though12:36
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YorokobiMantis, usually, the last one in the list is Windows12:36
Yorokobi!grub | Mantis12:36
ubotuMantis: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:36
MantisAll right, I'll look arround a bit12:37
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Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13437/ AGAIN12:37
dwidmanngravespk: also, you can look at /proc/mdstat12:37
Mantisthanks, I'll pop back in if I can't figure it out12:37
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SanneMantis: you can edit the default os grubboots into in /boot/grub/menu.lst (make a backup first)12:37
dwidmanngraves: http://unthought.net/Software-RAID.HOWTO/Software-RAID.HOWTO-6.html12:38
dwidmannTells you a way to test via software too12:38
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SanneMantis: if you want, I can help you do that.12:38
Sesshoumaruwow.. i didn't know that vlc could play iso12:39
dwidmannLewix: dpkg --install to install, "cd .." to go up a directory12:39
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Lewixdwidmann, thanks12:39
LewixI was doind cd..12:39
Lewixit's stupid^^ (the space)12:39
tarelerulzdoes vlc have problem read smbmount ?12:40
MantisSanne:  thanks for the offer, If I run into any trouble, I'll get back with you12:40
Moby_Dicknow when I upgrade k3b ... should I uninstall the one that comes with edgy12:40
SanneMantis: ok, good luck :)12:40
Chemicalvampwhy must i run something 2 time before it actually loads?12:40
dwidmannMoby_Dick: I would, b ut you don't really need to12:40
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Chemicalvamphad to run adept 3 times before it loaded that tome12:41
Moby_Dickwhat about the back end, cdrecord and cdrao?12:41
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Moby_Dickshould those be upgraded automatically?12:42
Lewixdwidmann, and once it's done?12:42
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SanneChemicalvamp: sometimes apps that you run as admin, like adept or synaptic, fail to start the first time. It has to do with kdesu confusing itself. It's a known bug, as far as I understood, and hopefully worked on.12:43
Chemicalvampok glad its not just me...12:43
Sesshoumarucan someone help me with nvidia12:43
SanneChemicalvamp: yup, it's not you :)12:43
tarelerulzI have had all sorts of problem with kubuntu when I installed it12:43
Chemicalvampone more: from time to time when i type, it spontaniously pastes is that everybody too?12:44
YorokobiChemicalvamp, are you hitting Shift-Insert or Ctrl-V on accident?12:44
Chemicalvampnope12:44
Sesshoumarucome on theres like 362 people in here..12:45
tarelerulzI had ark go out on me the first time  installed kubuntu12:45
SanneChemicalvamp: no, not here. That may be you, after all ;)12:45
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Chemicalvampnooo12:45
YorokobiSesshoumaru, can you be more specific than "help [you]  with nvidia"?12:45
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dwidmannLewix: well, try to run amsn, supposing it installed okay?12:45
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Sesshoumarumy resolution settings never saves12:45
Sesshoumaruit resets when i restart12:46
Munro_I see I'm not the only one with GFX problems12:46
dwidmannSesshoumaru: run  "sudo nvidia-settings"12:46
Lewixdwidmann, loool...thanks it was stupid of me12:46
YorokobiSesshoumaru, can you paste you xorg.conf to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org so we can look at it?12:46
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Chemicalvamp!ati12:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:46
Chemicalvampi had that issue too12:47
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Moby_DickIs t worth upgrading to 7.04?12:47
Sesshoumaruhold on firefox is acting retarded12:47
Munro_I have 28k dial up. How the world can I get my drivers???12:47
dwidmannMoby_Dick: I t hink it is, it would all depend on your reaons for wanting to do so, and how much bandwidth you have (seeing as it is a rather large download)12:48
tulio__it is still not playing avi images12:48
tulio__does anyone knows why?12:48
dwidmannMoby_Dick:  here's how - https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade12:48
Moby_DickI was looking at that.12:48
Yorokobitulio__, you may need to get the w32codecs from the seveas repositories12:48
tulio__seveas?12:48
tarelerulzget mplayer tulio that works great12:48
dwidmann!seveas | tulio__12:48
tulio__i have it from another repo12:48
ubotutulio__: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages12:49
Sesshoumaruwhich syntax?12:49
Moby_DickBut so far 6.10 is going well for me, just the cd burning  software12:49
YorokobiMoby_Dick, I've had the upgrade work both times but it was a serious pain on my server/workstation (a breeze on my laptop)12:49
tulio__tarelerulz: im using vlc12:49
tarelerulzreally I don't know what to say It just worked for me,but I have not try avi yet12:49
tarelerulzI have been use for move iso12:49
gravespkARGH... this whole linux raid idea is starting to become more trouble than its worth12:50
dwidmannAVI is just a container. It is a completely open format. The problems people run into are with copyrighted vidoe and audio codecs12:50
dwidmanngravespk: what's up now?12:50
tulio__audio is fine, but the video sometimes appear and sometimes it dont12:51
tulio__can it be because of xgl?12:51
tarelerulzthat is why  I use mplayer it read wma,wmv , avi ogg and couple I can't remember12:51
Yorokobitulio__, quite possibly12:51
YorokobiI've had problems with xine in Xgl12:52
dwidmanntulio__: not likely at all12:52
dwidmannwell, maybe, try switching its video out driver ...12:52
gravespkWell I ran cat /proc/mdstat (per instructions on a linux md raid setup guide) to see the status of my RAID.... 1)It's confusing, completely unuserfriendly (I saw the status of my raid but have NO CLUE what any of it meant).... beyond that.... in their example both parts of the raid (the source & mirror partitions) were listed.... in mine its only listing one, making me think that maybe my raid isnt working12:52
tulio__dwidmann: how?12:52
dwidmannsettings -> configure xine engine12:52
dwidmannvideo tab12:53
Sesshoumaruok. i paste the xorg.conf12:53
tulio__there is only GL Desktop in the Settings option12:53
dwidmannxv is best, but if it's not working try other things12:53
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what's the URL (or number at the end)12:53
Moby_DickWhich is easier on the resources gnome or kde12:53
dwidmanntulio__: I mean in kaffeine12:53
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dwidmannMoby_Dick: they're about the same really12:53
Sesshoumaruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13447/12:53
tarelerulzmplayer is fun like that swith  video out and sound out12:54
Moby_DickI can't really tell the difference, I guess gnome doesn't have a "start" menu12:54
tulio__dwidmann: ok12:54
tulio__sorry12:54
YorokobiSesshoumaru, wow, that's as bare-boned a config as you can get :) ... one sec12:55
YorokobiMoby_Dick, Gnome's "start" menu is the Applications menu12:55
dwidmannOption         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" <--- this line looks like it was one added by nvidia-settings, right?12:55
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mervteckcan anyone tell me how to repartition the unused space on my drive?12:57
dwidmannmervteck: well, you can use something like fdisk, parted, or qtparted12:57
mervteckin running Kubuntu Edgy12:57
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dwidmannmervteck: preferably from a live cd if you're using the disk in any way12:57
mervteckso... boot from live cd then repartition it?12:58
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dwidmannyeah12:58
mervteckk brb gonna boot on live cd12:58
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calamarihi01:00
tarelerulzGod I love VLC when it works right. I am watching jap movie with english subtitles01:00
calamarican I set my desktop as my home directory?  I created a symliunk but I don't see to have any icons on the desktop yet01:00
HymnToLifetarelerulz, same here but I don't use it cause I don't like when it does _not_ work right :p01:01
Tm_Tcalamari: no you can,t and you never wan't01:01
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HymnToLifecalamari, you don't want to do that01:01
tarelerulzThat is lame ,but I am donig good so far01:01
calamariHymnToLife: yes, I do01:01
tarelerulzIf mplayer would read iso I would be use it01:02
Tm_Tcalamari: if you manage to do that some way, you end up to have, well, pile of poopoo01:02
calamarithat's how I had it in gnome, and it was great01:02
Tm_TIF I understood what you mean01:02
calamarierr.. maybe I said it backwards01:02
calamariI'd like my home directory to be my desktop01:03
calamariso that when I put stuff in the home dir it shows up on the desktop01:03
Tm_Tuff01:03
gravespkis SATA hot-swappable?01:03
Yorokobicalamari, not a good idea01:03
HymnToLifegravespk, in theory, yes01:03
calamariYorokobi: why not?01:03
dwidmannmake /home/blah/desktop a symlink to /home/blah, then pull up konsole, "killall kdesktop && kdesktop"01:03
gravespkSo, "IN THEORY" what happens if I unplug one of my hard drives?01:04
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calamarithanks.. just need to do the killall then01:04
HymnToLifedunno, I never dared to try :p01:04
Tm_Tcalamari: no, don't do killall01:04
Tm_Tcalamari: there's cleaner way, I'm sure01:04
dwidmanngravespk: in theory it would work, but I'd be damned if I'd want to try it and find out01:04
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HymnToLifeyep01:04
HymnToLifelogout and log back in01:04
calamarican someone who is telling me not to do this, please kindly tell me WHY?01:04
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calamari:)01:05
HymnToLifebecause usually, you put lots of stuff in your home01:05
calamariahh, so the clutter issue01:05
HymnToLifeso if all that appears on the desktop, it will be insanely full01:05
calamariit's fine as long as it hides dot files01:05
YorokobiIf you set you Desktop to the home its fine. If you try to set your home to Desktop (yes, semantically different) then you could have problems.01:05
gravespkGod I hope a terrorist never kidnaps my girlfriend and threatens to kill her if I don't build them a working Linux Raid............. My girlfriend would be sooo dead01:05
Tm_Tcalamari: "dcop kdesktop MainApplication-Interface quit" should shut it down clean01:05
calamarithanks01:06
HymnToLifeRAid is overrated01:06
calamaribrb01:06
Yorokobigravespk, are you using software RAID or hardware?01:06
gravespk*Trying* to use software.... I bought a motherboard with onboard RAID..... little did I know that it requires Windows to function01:06
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Chemicalvampyay adept has been installing for like an hour now.. still 28%01:07
Yorokobigravespk, yeah. My MB has that option, I chose to go without RAID01:07
Jisaogravespk, you're screwed when you have that type of raid and the mobo dies.  Often the hardware is then obsolete.01:07
dwidmanngravespk: you can get the motherboards sort to function still, sort of, in reality it's just an eased interface to software raid01:07
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gravespkWait a second01:08
YorokobiRAID with Linux works great, so long as you're using a hardware controller (ie, Adaptec)01:08
dwidmannjisao, but he's using pure software with mdadm ...01:08
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Moby_Dickwith the k3b which is a newer version.  ubuntu 0.12.17 or the k3b 1.0 ?01:08
SesshoumaruYorokobi did you find anything wrong with the cfg?01:08
gravespkis there a way in linux to make 2 folders continually mirrored... i.e. if I have a folder such as /home/pgraves/Stuff ..... does linux have a function to monitor changes to that folder and mirror it at another location (i.e. /home/pgraves/stuff2)01:08
dwidmannMoby_Dick: 1.0 is hot off the press, only about a week old :)01:09
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HymnToLifeMoby_Dick, as far as I know, 1.0 > 0.12 :p01:09
YorokobiSesshoumaru, :) I was waiting for you to answer dwidmann's question about the "metamodes" entry01:09
Sesshoumarui didn't see it :(01:09
dwidmannOption         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0" <--- this line looks like it was one added by nvidia-settings, right?01:10
vvvhow do i get kubuntu to auto start beryl everytime i log in.. i folllowed the instructions on beryl's website but it doesn't seem to work01:10
YorokobiSesshoumaru, I have two suggestions. Try it with the metamodes entry commented out. If that fails, try it with the DPMS entry commented out, then try it with both commented out.01:10
YorokobiI guess that's three suggestions01:11
vvvi don't see to have the beryl manager? should i install that? the script i used said it should auto launch01:11
vvvbut it doesn't even seem to be installed01:11
Sesshoumarui also have nv disabled in linux-restricted-modules-common..01:11
Yorokobivvv, yes, install beryl-manager01:11
dwidmannthe metamodes entry *should* force the resolution that is listed first, at least it gets the WorksForMe stamp of approval01:11
JisaoKubuntu crashed on me now and then.  What is the best way to discover what is really going on?01:11
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you're using the nvidia driver so nv shouldn't be used.01:12
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Sesshoumaru>.<   i have no idea what your talking about01:12
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Moby_DickHas anybody here install k3b 1.0 on edgy?01:12
Sesshoumaruyeah i thought so01:12
vvvok yorokobi i'll try and come back if it doesn't help. .thanks for the confirmation though. just wasnt' sure what to do01:12
Chemicalvamphow do i killall adept?01:12
YorokobiChemicalvamp, sudo killall adept_manager01:13
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dwidmannJisao: I'd check the logs in /var/log, particularly dmesg01:13
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Sesshoumaruso i should have only one resolution in the cfg like 1440 x 900 ?01:14
Jisaook01:14
YorokobiSesshoumaru, the resolutions should go from the highest supported to the lowest supported01:14
dwidmannSesshoumaru: I'm betting it was written in by nvidia-settings, and you're saying it's not taking that resolution right (that's the one you want, correct?)01:14
Sesshoumaruumm.. sure01:15
Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13453/ please, what do i have to kill to upgrade to 7.04?01:15
mervteckhey dwid i was in qtpartition or somthing like that in live cd and it would only let me reformat the whole chunk not jsut make the one smaller01:15
dwidmannSesshoumaru: so what resolution are you running at right now?01:15
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Sesshoumaru1440 x 900 but i have to set this every time i start the computer01:15
sketchb0xkubuntu is going to take over the world01:16
YorokobiChemicalvamp, 'ps wax | grep adept' then sudo kill -9 <pid>01:16
sketchb0xwatch01:16
Sesshoumaruit starts in 1240 or whatever01:16
dwidmannmervteck: what's your current partition setup? (You can get a pretty nice printout by running the command sudo "parted /dev/<device> print" substituting the device name of course01:16
N6REJanyone know how to remove a program from wine?01:16
Sesshoumarui have ubuntu .. theres no real difference right?01:16
Sesshoumarufrom kubuntu01:17
compilerwriterI am about to compile ktorrent from source.  I have torrents running.  I should be able to stop them compile the latest version and then have it pick up where I left off should I not?01:17
YorokobiSesshoumaru, only the X window manager (Gnome v KDE)01:17
dwidmannSesshoumaru: I have an idea01:17
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dwidmannSesshoumaru: on the line   Modes      "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"01:18
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vvvcould anyone link me to a how to install mplayer guide a current one01:18
vvvi'm a linux newb and i don't know about compilers and everything01:18
dwidmannremove 1600x1200 and 1280x1024, and add 1440x900 in their place01:18
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Jisaoany clue in particular I am looking for, dwidmann ?01:18
calamaridesktop is good now, thanks :)01:19
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dwidmannvvv: first, download the source, then run this command: "sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer", you have to have the deb-src repositories enabled though01:19
mervtecki dont rember the name of the hd i got>.<01:19
dwidmannafter t hat, extract the source, run "./configure && make && sudo make install"01:19
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dwidmannmervteck: probably hda or sda01:20
vvvi see ty thats the command i was missing01:20
Sesshoumaru        Modes      "1440x900" "1440x900" "1440x900" "800x600" "640x480"01:20
Sesshoumaru800x600 640x80 too?01:20
Chemicalvampyorokobi: still didnt work01:20
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you only need one entry for each resolution01:20
gravespkDoes Ubuntu have a function for continually mirroring folders? (I.e. ensuring that any changes made to /home/pgraves/stuff1 is also made to /home/pgraves/stuff2)01:20
dwidmannSesshoumaru: no no no, you only need one entry of 1440x90001:20
Yorokobi!adept | Chemicalvamp01:20
ubotuChemicalvamp: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:20
vvvwill that install the plugins to media player as well dwidmann01:20
Sesshoumaruok i'll try it01:20
just-this-timef-spot is a gnome prog howto use it from kde to export to picasaweb.google.com01:20
vvvcause i can install it. but i can't install the codec to make it work01:21
Yorokobiargh, that didn't have all the info I was looking for ...01:21
dwidmannSesshoumaru:  something lke "Modes      "1440x900" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480""01:21
Sesshoumaruwhat about metamode01:21
Sesshoumaru    Option         "metamodes" "1440x900_60 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"01:21
dwidmannSesshoumaru: leave metamode alone, it looks okay01:21
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mervteckDisk /dev/hdb: 160GB01:22
Yorokobi!adept_manager > Yorokobi01:22
mervteckSector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B01:22
mervteckPartition Table: msdos01:22
mervteckNumber  Start   End    Size    Type      File system  Flags01:22
mervteck 1      32.3kB  154GB  154GB   primary   ext3         boot01:22
mervteck 2      154GB   160GB  6169MB  extended01:22
dwidmannvvv: no, you'd need to download the w32codecs seperately and put them in /usr/lib/win3201:22
mervteck 5      154GB   160GB  6169MB  logical   linux-swap01:22
mervtecksorry for the spam >.<01:22
dwidmannI've gotta go, I'll be back later01:22
Sesshoumaruok.. i'm restarting. if x doesn't start ,, i'm suing you!  lol :P01:22
vvvwhen i try and put it into the directory it says i dont' have premission01:22
gravespkANYONE?01:23
gravespksee ya Dwidmann01:23
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vvvcya dwid and thanks01:23
Yorokobigravespk, you could make one a symlink to the other01:23
hyumahello guys01:23
hyumadoes anyone knows if there is a fix fo kopete bug with DCC request?01:24
hyumaserver irc.darksin.net01:24
Moby_DickQt4 seems to be in ubuntu, but it says my version isn't new enough?  Has anybody here had to manually install Qt4?01:24
mervteckcan anyone help me get my repartition to work?01:24
vvvi have a windows parition on my computer... but kubuntu won't let me mount it.. ubuntu let's me mount my other harddrives without a problem01:25
vvvhow do i fix this issue?01:25
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dugi have been looking into my issue for awhile, and theres many people saying to fix it many ways. I was using 6.06 kubuntu live cd, liked it so I got edgy and installed it. My wireless card worked fine with 6.06 but with edgy I cant get it to work. It sees networks but wont connect to them, even open networks.01:27
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ubuntuhello i have a problem01:27
ubuntuWHo can help me please01:27
Yorokobiubuntu, depends on what your problem is01:28
Yorokobidug, what wifi chipset is your wifi card?01:28
ubuntui am on kubuntu trying to listen to an online radiostream01:28
Yorokobithat was redundant :)01:28
ubuntubut i hear no audio01:28
vvvdoes anyone know what i have to install to be able to mount harddrives?01:28
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Yorokobiubuntu, what's the URL for the radio station?01:29
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Moby_Dickdug, what are you using to "see" networks01:29
ubuntuYorokobi: its one of the coolstreams in amarok01:29
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dugtried wireless assistant and kwlan whats the cmd again to show what my chipset is again01:30
ubuntui cant hear mp3 only ogg01:30
dugi think its along the line of lipsc01:30
SesshoumaruYorokobi: its still in 1024x76801:30
Moby_Dickdug, with both of my wireless cards, the gui assistant wouldn't work so I would have to type sudo iwconfig eth0 essid 'linksys'01:30
Moby_Dickor whatever the name of the network you want is.01:30
dugso it would be ath001:30
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Moby_Dickdug, your using an atheros card?01:31
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YorokobiSesshoumaru, what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say ?01:31
dugyes01:31
Chemicalvamptrying to fix dependancies.... got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13458/ in konsole and i dont know how to get past it please01:31
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dugi cant remember the cmd to show what it is01:31
hyumawhat's the better IRC client for kubuntu?01:31
Moby_Dickdug, I have one of those and I had to install mad wifi to get it to work.01:31
ubuntui am a major n00b01:31
ubuntuthat scares me all01:31
dugyea i came across them and was wondering if it would work01:32
YorokobiChemicalvamp, tab :)01:32
Yorokobithen enter01:32
duggreat i have the install page01:32
Moby_Dickdug, and when I upgraded my kernal I had to reinstall mad wifi01:32
Chemicalvamptyvm again01:32
Moby_Dickdug, do both of the lights flash on your network card?01:32
dugok thanks moby i just wanted to be sure it worked so i wouldnt be trying out 100s of different ways01:32
dugyes they are flashing01:32
ubuntucan i get hacked on linux?01:32
Moby_Dickboth of them?01:32
dugyes they go back and forth01:32
jhutchinshyuma: I like konversation, kopete will do IRC, and xchat is available as well.  I think those are the most popular.01:32
dugit sees networks and what not but wont get on them01:33
compilerwriterWould someone be kind enough to take me by the hand on a compile of ktorrent.  I think I might be messing something up.01:33
Yorokobiubuntu, which version of amarok are you using ?01:33
hyumajhutchins:  thanks, but konversation is bugged with dcc chat01:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi i see nothing about nvidia errors..01:33
Moby_Dicktry typing from a terminal, sudo ath0 essid 'networkname'01:33
hyumaI've noticed problem with fserve triggers01:33
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Moby_Dickthen; sudo dhclient ath001:33
vit_hey men01:33
YorokobiSesshoumaru, paste them to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org please01:33
vit_i have a problem01:33
ubuntuall i want is to hear audio from amarok why is it so hard Chemicalvamp you totally confused me instead of helped me01:34
Moby_Dickbecause when both my lights flash, my card is working.01:34
jhutchinscompilerwriter: If you're having trouble compiling it might be best to stick to .deb packages for a while.01:34
ubuntui am in panic niw01:34
ubuntunow01:34
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Moby_DickBut mad wifi did get it to work.01:34
hyumamaybe xchat is better for dcc'ing01:34
ubuntuamarok 1.4.301:34
Yorokobidug, do you have the linux-kerner-restricted-? package installed?01:34
Yorokobiubuntu, do you also have amarok-xine installed?01:35
dugsudo ath0 essid linux01:35
dugPassword:01:35
dugsudo: ath0: command not found01:35
duggot that error01:35
hyumajhutchins: do you use beryl?01:35
Moby_DickI'm sorry, iwconfig01:35
Moby_DickI'm sorry, iwconfig ath0 essid linux01:35
ubuntui dont know what that means even Yorokobi01:35
SesshoumaruYorokobi how do i copy all with nano01:35
Sesshoumarui can't highlight it all with my nouse01:35
jhutchinshyuma: No.  I have an old video card that does what I need, but probably would just be frustrating with beryl.01:35
hyumaI've old video card too01:36
YorokobiSesshoumaru, I dunno. I rarely use nano. Try highlighting it with the mouse then copy&paste01:36
dugiwconfig ath0 essid linux01:36
dugError for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) :01:36
dug    SET failed on device ath0 ; Operation not permitted.01:36
hyumamine is geforce 2 gts with 32MB RAM01:36
Sesshoumarunevermind i'll use a defferent editor01:36
Yorokobioh01:36
hyumabut beryl is crazy01:36
hyumaand works well01:36
Yorokobiubuntu, in konsole, type 'sudo apt-get install amarok-xine'01:36
dugits enabled01:37
dugive tried about everything but ill give madwifi a shot01:37
Moby_Dicksudo dhclient ath001:37
dugk01:37
vvvis thier away to mount  ntfs harddrives in kubuntu? like you can in ubuntu01:37
jhutchinshyuma: Actually, for a great many people beryl does not work at all.01:37
hyumaah really?01:37
ubuntuit says amarok0-xine is already the latest Yorokobi01:37
jhutchinshyuma: I don't think it's even ready for a beta release yet, but it's out there.01:38
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jhutchins!ntfs | vvv01:38
ubotuvvv: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:38
dugits trying to discover01:38
compilerwriterjhutchins:  I am not sure if I have a problem or not.  I would just like someone to walk me through it.  The directions on ktorrent.org look simple enough.  I just need a bit of advice on some configure output.01:38
vvvty01:38
Chemicalvampgksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf command for kubuntu please?01:38
vvvty ubotu01:38
Sesshoumaruhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13461/01:38
YorokobiChemicalvamp, subst gedit with kate01:38
ubuntuYorokobi:  so why am i not hearing sound?01:38
Moby_Dickdid you get the network name correct?01:38
dugyes01:39
hyumajhutchins: test the aalib with xine01:39
Yorokobiubuntu, I dunno ... there may be another package that is required01:39
eilker!eudora01:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eudora - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:39
hyumajhutchins: and open an avi file01:39
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jhutchinscompilerwriter: Standard advice for this channel is that working within the package manager is the best way to avoid problems.  Compiling your own software should be done by people who understand what they're doing, and why.  Other than the following:01:39
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jhutchins!build | compilerwriter01:39
ubotucompilerwriter: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)01:39
jhutchins!packages01:39
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!01:39
ubuntuif windows sucks so much and linux  is supposed to be so good why isnt it working such a simple thing as hearing sound01:39
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Yorokobiubuntu, I've never had a problem with Amarok and MP3s01:40
hyumadoes the ntfsck is ready for linux?01:40
ubuntuthats what they all say01:40
jhutchinsubuntu: Because of updated soundcard chipsets and volunteers developing new drivers for alsa in the kernel.01:40
ubuntui cant hear the music01:40
ubuntuwho can help me :(01:40
vvvkubuntu doesn't even pick up my 5.101:40
vvvonly 2.1 in kubuntu and ubuntu01:40
jhutchinshyuma: Have you followed this?01:41
jhutchins!audio | ubuntu01:41
ubotuubuntu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP301:41
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jhutchinsvvv: Your sound card manufacturer has not provided the specs so that someone could write a 5.1 driver.01:41
ubuntuwhy is this so hard to do01:41
jhutchinsvvv: You may find some help in the troublshooting file above though.01:42
hyumawhat's jhutchins ?01:42
ubuntuwindows has trojans but at least stuff just works01:42
Yorokobiubuntu, 'sudo apt-get install libxine1'01:42
SesshoumaruYorokobi did you get the link?01:42
Minatakuubuntu: Windows' tendency to "just work" is typically why things are so hard in Linux01:42
jhutchinsubuntu: That's because you pay people to write the drivers.01:42
hitmanWillyubuntu: at least until vista came along01:43
YorokobiSesshoumaru, sorry, I missed it ... one sec01:43
jhutchinsWhen things don't work in Linux, I can fix them.  In windows, I have to wait for someone to fix them for me.01:43
Minatakujhutchins: If that ever happens01:43
jhutchinsMinataku: Right.01:43
ubuntulibxine1 is already installed Yorokobi01:43
MinatakuAnd asking if you can fix them yourself gets you "No, this is our intellectual property blah blah trade secrets blah proprietary"01:43
MinatakuIt's all money poisoning01:43
jhutchinsMinataku: Sometimes the "we know what's best for you" fix is worse than the problem.01:44
MinatakuForget cyanide, forget ricin, money is the strongest poison known to man01:44
Yorokobiubuntu, what audio chipset do you have?01:44
MinatakuIt's effects also reach far beyond just humans01:44
ubuntucreative live 5.1101:44
vvvdo i need to have wine installed to install mplayer codec?01:44
ubuntu5.101:44
YorokobiSesshoumaru, I see /dev/wacom errors, not nvidia errors01:44
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jhutchinsvvv: No.01:44
MinatakuMoney poisoning can damage anything, biological or synthetic, living or dead01:44
vvvhow do i get premission to add files into usr  folder?01:44
jhutchins!mp3 | vvv01:45
ubotuvvv: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:45
jhutchinsvvv: Start with the first one, that should get you going.01:45
vvvty01:45
Yorokobiubuntu, you may benefit from !mp3 as well01:45
jhutchinsubuntu: Do you know what kernel you have?01:45
SesshoumaruYorokobi.. maybe i should manualy edit the cfgs.. cause there back to the original01:46
ubuntu2.601:46
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jhutchinsubuntu: which 2.6?01:46
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ubuntukernel01:46
Minataku...01:46
Jarn!lua01:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lua - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:46
JarnAnyone know a program that can be used to edit lua files?01:46
ubuntu!mp301:46
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:46
jhutchinsubuntu: uname -r in a console.01:46
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YorokobiSesshoumaru, I had to get rid of the stylus and other entries in my xorg.conf when I nuked all the wacom Device entries01:46
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hyumajhutchins:  can you help me please how to write in NTFS HDD ?01:47
ubuntuwhat does a kernel have to do with the mp3 being unhearable?01:47
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jhutchins!ntfs-3g | hyuma01:47
ubotuhyuma: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)01:47
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ubuntunow i realize how good windows is01:47
mrandI'm looking for a (k)ubuntu package equivalent to lxdvdrip01:48
Minatakuubuntu: Perhaps your mixer settings have the volume turned down?01:48
jhutchinsubuntu: The alsa drivers which handle sound cards are part of the kernel.  There is an update in the pipeline that fixes a number of problems.01:48
mranddoes anyone know of one?01:48
soulriderhi everyone01:48
ubuntuMinataku:  i check all that already01:48
vvvjhutchins which media player allows me to run my movie as my desktop? or is that another program all together?01:48
jhutchins!dvd | mrand01:48
ubotumrand: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:48
Minatakuubuntu: Saying that over and over doesn't make anyone want to help you01:48
soulridermrand: how about k9copy ?01:48
mrandjhutchins: thanks01:48
jhutchinsSorry guys, I gotta go.  Later.01:48
soulriderubuntu is a bot guys, dont talk to him!01:48
voorhees86what is te best msn software?01:48
vvvlater and thanks again jhut01:48
Minatakusoulrider: That's ubotu01:48
ubuntuthis is the reason why windows will always remain dominant linux isnt helping its forcing people to use windows because they dont want to spend so much time to get simple things to work01:49
hyumathank you ubotu and jhutchins01:49
hyuma:))01:49
dwidmanndefine simple01:49
Moby_Dickmrdlouisd, when my network card works, both lights flash at the same time01:49
Minatakuubuntu: No, when people refuse to listen to suggestions or recieve help, that's where the problem arises01:50
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Minatakuubuntu: Either knock it off and calm down, or just go away01:50
ubuntuyou guys are supposed to be so smart and 1337 adn all yet cant help me to hear audio01:50
Moby_Dickmrdlouisd, and I used mad wifi then it work01:50
Aloneaubuntu: you have checked your mixer right?01:50
ubuntuyes01:50
MinatakuAnd insulting us is hardly going to get you anywhere01:50
dwidmann!attitude | ubuntu01:50
ubotuubuntu: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines01:50
hyumaubotu: I've problem with NTFS HDD and I can't read it in windows because I've page fault error, so I'm triyng to do some fsck from linux for this hard disk.... do you have idea?01:50
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hyuma!ntfsck01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfsck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
Minatakuubuntu: Linux can be easy, but it requires you to learn01:51
MinatakuYou seem to be completely unwilling to learn, so of course it's going to be difficult01:51
ubuntuits helping me get over my sadness that linux isnt that good afterall01:51
Moby_Dickubuntu do you get any sounds out of your speakers01:51
hyuma!beryl01:51
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:51
ubuntuonly ogg i hear01:52
MinatakuDrop the "Do it all for me" attitude01:52
ubuntuwelcome sound01:52
voorhees86what is te best msn software?01:52
Moby_Dickyou hear ogg?01:52
hyumavoorhees86: I'm using kopete01:52
hyumait's ok01:52
Aloneaubuntu: Ok, so you are having trouble playing mp3s?01:52
Minatakuubuntu: In that case, it sounds like you don't have any MP3 decoding support if you can play OGG files01:52
dwidmann!codecs | ubuntu01:52
ubotuubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:52
voorhees86my kopete not work very well01:52
MinatakuWhich is completely different from sound not working at all01:52
HaSH!iso01:52
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.01:52
ubuntui told you all that in the beginning :/01:52
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Yorokobivoorhees86, alternatives for MSN : amsn, gaim, psi, kopete, possibly others01:53
MinatakuThen why did you complain that your audio wasn't working at all?01:53
ubuntuhow do i install codecs01:53
ubuntufrom konsole?01:53
Aloneaubuntu: when you try to play an MP3 on amarok it should say something about installing mp3 support. just let it do its thing and you will be fine.01:53
Moby_Dickubuntu what installer are you using, synaptic, kynaptic or adept?01:53
hyumaubuntu with apt-get01:53
vvvdoes anyone know what i need to play a movie as my background?01:53
ubuntuit doesnt do that Alonea orelse i woudlnt have been here01:53
hyumavvv what?01:53
voorhees86yeah i know , but im asking what is the best?01:53
dwidmannvoorhees86: that's a matter of opinion01:54
hyumavoorhees86: gaim01:54
mrandhyuma: vvv wants his X wallpaper to be the output of mplayer01:54
mrdlouisdi registered moby thats why my name changed01:54
vit_alguien que hable espaol!!!01:54
mrdlouisdthanks for the help01:54
Moby_Dickubuntu what package manager are you using?01:54
vvvyeah thats what  i want mrand01:54
vvvdo you know the name of a program that could do that?01:54
Aloneaubuntu: ok, so then you are missing libraries. lets see Mplayer has a bunch of binaries. dunno if the package in adept installs those too as I have always done it myself01:54
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ubuntuwhats the command to install the codes for mp3: sudo apt-get .... ???01:54
hyumado you want take a video capture of your desktop, vvv?01:54
ubuntuthis is very complex01:55
ubuntufor me01:55
mrandhyuma: he wants his wallpaper to be a movie01:55
ubuntui dont understand01:55
dwidmannubuntu: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs01:55
Moby_Dickubuntu, you need to know the codec name, unless you tell me what package manager you are using01:55
Alonea!adept01:55
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto01:55
ubuntuok ty01:55
vvvi want to make my desktop run movies instead of the movie player01:55
ubuntuits too much information01:55
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hyumavvv why?01:55
Hirvinen!mp3 | ubuntu01:55
ubotuubuntu: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:55
ubuntulibxinel already is the lastest version it says dwidmann01:56
Aloneaubuntu: linux can be a bit dazzling at first, but you got to be patient. I know its frustrating. I was frustrated at first too.01:56
dwidmannubuntu: what program are you using to (attempt to) play the mp3s?01:56
ubuntui dont want much just sound is so basic01:56
Yorokobidwidmann, ubuntu is using amarok01:56
Moby_Dickubuntu, go to the kde menu then, go to system, do you have synaptic or kynaptic in the list?01:56
vvvhyuma i dual screen and i see alot of people doing it01:57
ubuntui dont even know if mp3 codecs is causing it its just that\01:57
mrandvvv: even if there was a way to do it, it wouldn't work with transparent applications, so the only way you'd be able to see the movie is if you weren't running any programs, but then you'd have your icons in the way of the movie.  X.Org is not windows 9501:57
dwidmannYorokobi: wouldn't happen to know if he's running dapper or edgy would you?01:57
ubuntui dont hear audio in amarok01:57
Minatakuubuntu: Perhaps Amarok isn't configured correctly01:57
dwidmannubuntu: it's not muted or something silly like that is it?01:57
Yorokobi2.6 kernel so edgy or feisty01:57
Hirvinenubuntu: Have you followed these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP301:57
ubuntuno its not muted both master and pcm slides are in the green01:57
Aloneaubuntu: mp3 codec isn't installed by default I dont think01:57
dwidmannYorokobi: 2.6 kernel would also include breezy hoary and warty01:57
ubuntuin mixer01:57
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Yorokobi*shrug*01:58
hyumavvv :O01:58
vvvi see mrand01:58
vit_holas!!!!01:58
dwidmann If it's pre-edgy, ubuntu could possibly be using the GStreamer engine instead of the Xine engine, especially in a GNOME setup01:58
Yorokobivvv, vlc supports using the desktop as a movie player01:58
vvvah i will download that01:59
hyumavvv maybe VLC do it?01:59
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mrandYorokobi: but does it work with transparent applications too?01:59
vvvah hyuma i just want to be able to spin my cube and look at movies on every side while its spinning. just for fun01:59
Aloneaubuntu: I think the packaged you need is libxine-extracodecs01:59
vvvi will download vlc through add/remove01:59
hyumavvv do you have beryl so?01:59
vvvbut i am having one problem with beryl.. i can't seem to add different wallpapers to different sides of the cube01:59
Yorokobimrand ... um, keep the desktop clear of apps ? :)01:59
Yorokobior use Beryl01:59
mrand:-P02:00
Moby_DickWhat about the repositories, he probably doesn't have his sources.list file setup to get restricted files02:00
vvvi see in general  options, desktop background desktop manager support viewports02:00
vvvwhen i turn that on.. my other desktops are transparent02:00
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YorokobiKDE does not support viewports (very well)02:00
vvvah i see02:00
YorokobiYou end up with one desktop via KDE and 4+ viewports with beryl02:00
hyumahey anyone knows audio program like adobe audition ?02:01
dwidmannubuntu, can you check something for me? in amarok go to settings -> configure amarok -> engine ->. What engine is selected?02:01
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vvvi can't reply to you hyuma in private02:02
hyumaok vvv02:02
hawk_hello eveyone nice to see you all02:02
dwidmannHi hawk_02:02
hyuma!audition02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audition - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
hyuma!audio editor02:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audio editor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:02
dwidmannhyuma: what does adobe audition do . .. I've never used it02:02
hyumaaudition is for mixing audio02:03
dwidmannThe only audio editing program I've heard about that gets any hype in FOSS-land is audacity02:03
hawk_anyone know of a good fps or stradigy game for linux with or with out wine02:03
hyumait's advanced audio editor audition02:03
dwidmann!audacity | hyuma02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
Yorokobihawk_, any of the Quake games02:03
vvvso basically as long as i use beryl i'm limited to one wallpaper on my desktop for every side of the cube?02:03
hyuma!audacity02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audacity - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
dwidmann!info audicity02:04
dwidmanngah,02:04
ubotuPackage audicity does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas02:04
Yorokobivvv, oh sure, make me move to my desktop so I can use beryl :)02:04
hawk_Yorokobi: thanks, dos that work in native linux or wine02:04
dwidmann!info audacity02:04
ubotuaudacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB02:04
hyumammm02:04
dwidmannthere we go02:04
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Yorokobihawk_, both. But they work better with the linux native binaries02:04
hyumadwidmann: I try it now and i tell you if it's good02:05
hawk_Yorokobi ok thanks for your help, do you know where i can get a how to on seting it up native02:05
dwidmannThe Doom games and UT games work also hawk_02:05
vvvyoro =)02:05
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vvvah, i'm such a linux newb i don't even know how to get that matrix wallpaper =(**02:06
dwidmannhawk_: at any rate, you have to buy the game(s) (it's not free, should be relatively cheap), as you'll be needing a license number or something of that nature02:06
hyumadwidmann: no, audacity is very poor program, I need something more professional02:06
Chemicalvampi think i broke adept! :((02:06
mrandhyuma: lol02:06
NightBirdquestion, can I resize my ntfs partition in the live cd so that I can make space to install kubuntu?02:06
dwidmannhyuma, that's the only one I k now of, sorry :(02:07
mrandhyuma: that is an april fools joke??02:07
pagansmindwww.ardour.org daw02:07
hyumano mrand02:07
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hyumawait I show you what I'm looking for02:07
pagansmindrosegarden i like02:07
Moby_DickI am trying to install Qt from the source files on their website, does anybody think this could cause conflicts with my current Qt installation?02:07
hitmanWillyhyuma: try mixx02:07
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dwidmannMoby_Dick: no, not if you install them somewhere "safe", put them somewhere like /opt/ and th ey won't interfere with anything02:08
vvvi don't think my sound will ever work well in linux.. only my 2 front speakers work its so annoying02:08
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hawk_dwidmann: have the game quake 1,2 and doom 95 now i just need to find them02:08
hyumaok hitmanWilly02:09
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Yorokobihawk_, check the repositories (quake, q2, q3a are there) but you need the game CD/DVD as well02:09
Moby_DickI am installing them so I can install k3b 1.0, so when I configure k3b how do I find the new Qt.02:09
hyumahttp://www.softmag.no/bilder/adobe_audition_s3.jpg02:09
hyumathis is adobe audition02:09
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calamarihow do I set the default web browser to firefox?02:10
SesshoumaruYorokobi: could it be that i have the legacy GPU? my card is BFG nVidia GeForce 7950 GT OC02:11
hawk_Yorokobi: thanks02:11
Yorokobicalamari, Kmenu -> System Settings -> Default Applications02:11
Chemicalvampyup i broke it... please look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13472/02:11
mrandhyuma: if audacity does not have a feature you want, there may be a plug-in that provides it.02:11
YorokobiSesshoumaru, a 7950 is not legacy02:11
dwidmannSesshoumaru: that's no legacy GPU! that things still very fresh02:11
calamariYorokobi: thanks a lot!02:11
pagansmindhttp://linux-sound.org/02:11
SesshoumaruYorokobi: LOL02:12
hyumamrand: I don't think that audacity will have a plugin that will load video on multitrack mode with audio to sync both02:12
pagansmindcinderella02:12
dwidmannThe latest one that support was pullef ro in the main driver is the GeForce4 GPUs02:12
MinatakuYeah, only ATI cards are "legacy" in Linux after 6 months, not nVidia cards02:12
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i didn't know that legacy meant "old"02:12
leiarcinelerra02:12
Yorokobiheh02:13
Chemicalvampi messed it up huh?02:13
pagansmindfor video editing02:13
hawk_ok what do i do after i have installed the packege02:13
dik,     ,   ,      ?=)02:13
leiarpagansmind: cinerella02:13
YorokobiOkay, who remembers the ubotu command to bring up the adept fix ?02:13
Yorokobi!ru | dik02:13
ubotudik:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:13
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dik!ru02:14
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke02:14
vvvhow do i bring my sound icon back to to the system tray?02:14
Chemicalvampi know what i did.. umm "deb [WWW]  http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/" is on line 102:14
Sesshoumarui swear.. i have the worst compatible computer for linux02:14
dwidmannwhen it comes to video editing, it's looking like Kdenlive has a ton of potential02:14
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Yorokobivvv, open kmix02:14
vvvah ty02:14
Chemicalvampand tis is the error E: Malformed line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)02:15
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avvalon Can someone tell me the fastest file transfer from Ubuntu to Windows from a remote Ubuntu box?02:15
ubuntuhttp://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuandvistamf2.jpg02:15
vvvi enabled surround center and side sound. and still only front sound works02:15
Chemicalvampso if i delete line 1 im all good again right?02:15
mranddik: `/j #ubuntu-ru`02:15
leiardwidmann: what about cinerella? I'm about to pick out a programme to use on my pupils. I thought cinerella was the one..02:15
YorokobiChemicalvamp, what does the first line look like ?02:15
dwidmannthought its name was cinelerra .... I couldn't get it to compile last I tried ...02:16
compilerwriterI am getting a gtk warning about can't open a terminal on  "192.168.0.104:0.0".  Am I correct in believing that this is because my box is headless and I am having an xsession via XDCMP?02:16
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Chemicalvampwell in the first field "deb" second is "http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/" and i put edgy in distro field02:16
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vvvis thier a link that would help me get my sound card working correctly02:16
avvalonOh and security isn't important for my file transfer02:17
soulridervv theres probably something on the forums, have you ever been there?02:17
dwidmannvvv: go into kmix and turn on "duplicate front"02:17
soulridertheres tons of help02:17
leiardwidmann: Cinerella is a princess cinelerra is a video editing programme..02:17
vvvi have tried findins stuff on ubuntu forums but i couldn't find anything that helped me02:17
compilerwriterThat and I am getting a warning about being unable to find X libraries.02:17
vvvmost of the stuff i find is very outdated02:17
soulrideraww vv, that sucks02:18
YorokobiChemicalvamp, it should be deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356 edgy main02:18
dwidmannleiar: and that means I was right? Hurray02:18
vvvyeah the two speakers tha work work nicely but only those 2 work =(02:18
Chemicalvampi sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list02:18
Yorokobiavvalon, does the remote ubuntu box have SSH server?02:18
dwidmannvvv: did you try turning on the duplicate front switch in kmix?02:18
avvalonYorokobi, yes but it's INCREDIBLY slow even on a cable connection on that end and a 3MB DSL connection on this end02:19
leiardwidmann: did I say cinerella? Well, it's late in Norway. I'd better go to bed..02:19
dwidmannnight then leiar02:19
vvvdwid is that the green light close to the top?02:19
dwidmannyeah02:19
Yorokobivvv, sometimes you have to use alsamixer to enable the other channels02:19
dwidmannone of many02:19
leiarnight02:19
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Yorokobiavvalon, you could use scp or sftp (ssh ftp)02:20
vvvyeah thats the only one that works it was enabled by default, then i turned on the other ones surround, center, side02:20
Chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13476/ is my sorces.list02:20
vvvbut i stil only get sound through my front02:20
Yorokobiavvalon, the slowness is due to <1MB upstream on the remote end if it is using cable02:20
avvalonArg.. that would explain the slow speed.02:20
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avvalonDoes that apply to any kind of transfer?02:20
YorokobiIt applies to most cable/dsl connections02:21
Chemicalvampok now adept will load02:21
vvvwhat does mux do? its at 002:21
avvalonSo even setting my particular directory as an FTP server isn't going to fix it?02:21
YorokobiEg. I have a 7MB down and 1MB up with my DSL (faster than the cable comcast offers in my area) :)02:21
Yorokobiavvalon, nothing is going to change it if the remote is on cable ... except getting a T1 or better02:22
avvalonLOL, alright thanks Yorokobi.. I guess I'm going to be here awhile on my 4 gig directory02:22
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Yorokobihaha, yes, you will02:23
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vvvare their any settings i have off that i should have on or the other way around?02:23
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ChemicalvampYorokobi: i did fetch update, but there are no upgrades like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade says there should02:23
YorokobiChemicalvamp, what exactly are you trying to do?02:23
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Yorokobiupgrade to feisty or upgrade KDE to 3.5.6 ?02:24
Chemicalvampupdate my edgy 6.10 to 7.0402:24
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YorokobiChemicalvamp, deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main02:25
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YorokobiThat should be the first line of the sources.list02:25
N6REJanyone know how to "map" a smb folder so it always shows up mounted on the desktop?02:25
soulriderhey N6REJ, i got no idea02:25
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N6REJI wnat k3b to always store my mp3's on the server02:25
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N6REJhey soul02:25
Sesshoumarudoes anyone know where to get a windows font pack? (for wine)02:26
YorokobiN6REJ, add the mount + options to /etc/fstab02:26
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compilerwriterHow would one go about finding out where there X Libraries are kept?02:26
N6REJYorokobi: explain more pleasE?02:26
soulriderfstab works with smb shares ?02:26
Yorokobi!fstab02:26
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions02:26
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N6REJYorokobi: these are smb shares02:26
soulridercompilerwriter: are you missing libraries ?02:26
YorokobiShould work ... test it and see02:26
N6REJweird, ok.02:27
ChemicalvampYorokobi: still no updates (cant do full upgrade)02:27
Yorokobiahh maybe not02:27
hitmanWillymount it as type samba02:27
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compilerwriterNo soulrider I don't think I am missing them.02:27
N6REJhitmanWilly: how?02:27
soulriderok compilerwriter02:27
philphotook folks, I need someone with some powerful magic.02:27
N6REJhitmanWilly: smbclient shows them fine.02:27
compilerwritersoulrider I have come across a configure that can't find them.02:28
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N6REJphilphoto: you change your nick again?02:28
soulridercompilerwriter: i guess if you know the name of one fo them you can just do a "locate <name>" and see where they are02:28
philphotoN6REJ:  I'm formerly philfo02:28
YorokobiN6REJ, it should work if the network is started before the disks/partitions are mounted02:28
soulridercompilerwriter: maybe you just dont have them installed02:28
philphotoyeah, did another install.  clean, on a clean drive02:28
N6REJlol figures.02:28
soulridertry to apt-get install them02:28
hitmanWillyin /etc/fstab where you normally put the filesystem type, just put samba02:28
N6REJphilphoto: cool, btw fiesty is great02:28
philphotoi did a bad thing02:28
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YorokobiChemicalvamp, *shrug*02:28
soulrideranyone here tried arch linux ?02:29
philphotoI loaded feisty & it was buggy as hell02:29
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N6REJhitmanWilly: ok, so if I have a folder on the server named /home/mp3 the I put that in /etc/fstab?02:29
icetbrhello, is it possible to remove the Actions entry from kmenu?02:29
N6REJhitman the servers name is "driftwood"02:29
compilerwriterI did apt-get install xlibs-dev and the others already.02:29
N6REJphilphoto: no way, it solved all my problems :D02:29
philphotoI tried to load up winxp on my old 40GB drive, but wasn't aware that location was where my master boot record was.02:29
YorokobiChemicalvamp, I am the type to glance over instructions so I missed a key part of the upgrade when I tried it (both times :) ), are you following those instructions exactly?02:29
N6REJphilphoto: lol easy fix.02:30
philphotoso now I'm talking with you all from the live CD02:30
philphotoand need a walk thru02:30
philphotoif that's possible.02:30
N6REJ!grub | philphoto02:30
ubotuphilphoto: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:30
philphotothanks, back in a sec02:30
soulriderphilphoto: whata re you having trouble doing ? maybe i can help02:30
ChemicalvampIn Adept Manager go to Manage Repositories and enable edgy-proposed.. what is this one?02:30
philphotoread my previous msg's02:31
YorokobiChemicalvamp, it should be feisty-proposed02:31
N6REJsoulrider: he lost linux grub boot record because he installed xp after nix lol02:31
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YorokobiI think ... let me checj02:31
soulriderChemicalvamp: you upgrading ?02:31
Chemicalvamp have edgy02:31
N6REJbtdt02:31
compilerwritersoulrider so I should apt-get install what pray tell.02:31
Yorokobicheck02:31
philphotowell, the best way to learn is to fail02:31
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Chemicalvampright now i have edgy 6.10 fully upgraded02:31
dwidmannphilphoto: at what point did you load feisty? Doesn't seem too buggy right now :302:31
N6REJphilphoto: yep, you may have to do it a couple of times to get it right phil02:31
philphotonot so much fail, but learn how to pull yourself out of the bad situations02:31
soulriderphilphoto: recovering grub is rather easy, read hte guide, but if you dont understand something just ask us02:31
philphotook, give me a minute02:32
YorokobiChemicalvamp, I'm wrong. edgy-proposed is correct02:32
philphototehn I'll talk with you about my feisty beef02:32
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dwidmannphilphoto: more specifically, to pull yourself out of the bad situations without reinstalling02:32
philphotoha ha ha ha, I just realized what I said....02:32
philphotoexactly02:32
vvvanyone here happen to use a dell and a problem with audio?02:32
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dwidmannvvv: my little brothers computer (formerly mine) had issues with audio ... it was some for integrated sound, used the intel8x0 driver02:33
Chemicalvampno we're BOTH wrong.. look close it says "/"02:33
hitmanWillyits //<windows box name>/<shared folder name> <mount point> smbfs02:33
dwidmannwhat channel controlled what was really messy02:33
Chemicalvampfor amd6402:33
vvvi have intergrated sound also sigmatel though.. what did you do to fix it dwid?02:34
Yorokobi64 ... oooooh. Small detail, that.02:34
dwidmannvvv: ran my head through a wall, built a new computer02:34
philphotoactually, I need to change the first IDE master in my BIOS if possible.  OR install GRUB on my drive where this build of Kubuntu is loaded02:34
Chemicalvamphow was http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuandvistamf2.jpg this done02:34
vvvhaha, i figured i might as well just buy a new audio card02:34
vvvsince i'm running off intergrated at the moment anyways02:35
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dwidmannvvv: I'd recommend this as the least stressful thing to do02:35
Yorokobiokay Chemicalvamp, so you have "deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ ./" (notice the ./) ??02:35
Chemicalvampyeah im already upgrading now02:35
Yorokobiso ... its working ?02:36
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vvvits been killing me. thats what i'll do then.. its the only reason i go back to windows to watch movies and so on02:36
dwidmannYorokobi: I can remember three things about that dist-upgrade process that really annoyed me :(02:36
xnitexokay i'm trying to update kde 3.5.5 to 3.5.602:36
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xnitexand i am at the  announcement page and i copy and paste deb with the link to it in terminal and it gives me a bash: deb: command not found return?02:37
xnitex>.<02:37
xnitexhelp?02:37
Yorokobidwidmann, me too. Postfix, sasl2-bin, and adept being a poor replacement for dselect :)02:37
Yorokobioh yeah, beryl02:37
dwidmann1) You upgrade all of kde (150mb? ...) so you can upgrade everything again, woohoo 2) it runs apt-get update not once (ideal), not twice (gah), but three times!! 3) when it runs into problems it doesn't let you know, and when it reboots with those problems, you can run into things like say, kernel panics and other fun like I did :( Took me hours to fix that ....02:38
Yorokobiouch, dwidmann. Your pain makes mine look like a carpet burn02:38
philphotoin konsole at the grub prompt I show grub file in two locations: hd1,0  and hd2,002:38
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philphotoany opinions on which I use?02:39
jhutchinsvvv: Did you try that troubleshooting page?  Did anything there help?02:39
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dwidmannYorokobi: and I waited a week for the upgrades to download before I did it, that's what made it burn worse :(02:39
jhutchinsphilphoto: How did you arrive at this dual installation?02:39
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philphotoI got greedy02:40
jhutchinsphilphoto: Doesn't seem like a very common problem, only solution I can imagine is to try each one and see what they do.02:40
jhutchinsphilphoto: Where is your kubuntu install?02:40
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philphotothe one I've put the most development into is on /sdb02:41
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Yorokobifdisk, format, re-instaaaall, doo-dah, doo-dah02:41
jhutchinsphilphoto: Which is mostlikely hd202:41
philphotogotcha.02:41
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philphotoworst case scenario, I boot up here again & switch.02:42
jhutchinsphilphoto: Yep.02:42
philphotothanks, all02:42
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philphotonow, my hd2 is not 1st IDE master though which is where the master boot record WAS before WinXP formatted then didn't complete the install.02:43
pollyoDo they have anything that will allow firefox to run activex?02:43
philphotois there going to be a problem with that?02:43
jhutchinspollyo: Not that I know of.02:43
hitmanWillypollyo, why would u want to do that?02:43
ChemicalvampYorokobi: !source-o-matic is what i needed for the adept fix02:44
jhutchinspollyo: That's a feature, by the way.02:44
jhutchinspollyo: Makes it much more secure.02:44
Yorokobijhutchins, noscript ?02:44
Yorokobi:)02:44
Yorokobipollyo, this is probably as close to getting activex as you can get: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page02:44
pollyojhutchins: I wanted it for my sister.  She uses walgreens to do photos and on windows she was able to use an activex feature.02:45
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jhutchinsxnitex: Right, deb is not a comand.  What are you working from?02:45
pollyoYorokobi: Yes.  I have that installed but the photos do not come up with the activex photo uploader that it installs.02:45
xnitexubuntu edgy on kde session02:45
jhutchinspollyo: Possibly gimp or picassa would please her.02:46
xnitexi'm just did a request install on kubuntu-desktop02:46
jhutchinsxnitex: I mean what instructions?02:46
hitmanWillyactivex = please come crack my computer02:46
pollyojhutchins: She is happy with the applications on the linux just not the web setup on walgreens without the activex.02:46
xnitexthe Http://wiki.kubuntu.org02:46
pollyohitmanWilly: They have an option to only allow activex from sites you trust.02:47
Yorokobijavascript = pdf = jpg = activex = make me vulnerable02:47
Chemicalvamp!botsnack02:47
ubotuYum!02:47
jhutchinsxnitex: c'mon, man, which page?02:47
hitmanWillypollyo: until someone gets you with a phishing site02:47
xnitexhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade02:48
jhutchinsxnitex: Basically you just add the 3.5.6 repo and do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.02:48
pollyohitmanWilly: PHishing sites would they also get someone downloading a debian package?02:48
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hitmanWillypollyo: true...02:48
xnitexand i've also been having problems installing and compiling themes and such from http://kde-look.org02:48
xnitexbut i'll get on to that after this is finished02:48
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philphotook, GRUB has been placed somewhere that BIOS will see it.  wish me luck.  see   you all in a few02:49
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vvv_i need to add something to  /etc/modprobe.d/options, but it says i don't have premission02:50
vvv_how do i get premission?02:50
Yorokobiprefix the command with sudo02:50
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vvv_sudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/options02:50
vvv_like that?02:50
Yorokobiyep02:50
nosrednaekimno..."kdesu"02:50
hitmanWillypollyo: but with a deb pkg, you have to actively install it whereas with activex all you would have to do is agree to run it02:50
nosrednaekiminstead of sudo02:50
vvv_kdesu?02:50
vvv_ok i'll try that02:50
Yorokobidochidemo02:50
Yorokobiboth work02:51
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nosrednaekimno..... not with x programs..02:51
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nosrednaekim*X and KDE02:51
xnitexok i did what you said after adding the respositories from the kubuntudisupgrade wiki page02:51
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Yorokobinosrednaekim, try it: sudo kate /something02:51
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Yorokobiit works fine02:51
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Yorokobi... so long as you do it from konsole :)02:52
nosrednaekimhmm... you are right...I apologize...most KDE apps don't wok that way02:52
xnitexand during the dist upgrade preparing the upgrade it came back with an error during update and i dont understand why i'm using wifi and right next to the router but it gave me a failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)02:52
oicu812went from suse 10.1 to ubuntu 6.1 today02:52
vvv_kdesu worked for me.. i'm sure the other one would too =) gonna restart and see if it helped02:53
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Chemicalvampoicu812, wich do you now preffer?02:53
xnitex:[02:53
Chemicalvamp!ping02:53
ubotupong02:53
Yorokobi!fortune02:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fortune - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:53
oicu812ubuntu02:54
oicu812finally i dont have to tar02:54
oicu812and compile02:54
Chemicalvamplol i still like !botsnack most02:54
oicu812and have it not work02:54
peanutboicu812, i esecially hated RPMs02:54
hitmanWillyoicu812, kinda sux when ur distro's in bed with the enemy, too02:54
oicu812i got redhat rps to work though02:54
oicu812oh jah enemy eh02:54
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pollyo! reaktivate02:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about reaktivate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:55
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oicu812i thought that i had erased my back -up partition but i didnt even screw that up02:55
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oicu812still got all my bsg episodes02:56
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forhamhi02:58
forhamYorokobi,02:58
forhamyou here02:58
forhamChemicalvamp,02:58
Yorokobiscary02:58
Chemicalvampuh huh02:58
forhamthanks for your help02:58
forhamhttp://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kubuntuvistaxglry1.jpg02:58
forhamthats a screenshot02:59
forhamof me in here :)02:59
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YorokobiCool02:59
Chemicalvamphow is that done? lol02:59
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forham;P02:59
forhammagic02:59
Chemicalvamp!magic03:00
NightBirdwhoa03:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about magic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:00
NightBirdso is that one screen a copy of vmware running full screen with vista installed on it?03:00
Chemicalvampohh vmware03:00
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Chemicalvamp!vmware03:00
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers03:00
NightBirdor one of the other accelerations?03:01
NightBirder... not accelerations, but virtual machines03:01
azmodeanexit03:01
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forhamNightBird, nice try but that doesnt explain the rotating cube huh :)03:02
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NightBirdforham: that's easy03:02
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NightBirdthat would be beryl03:03
pollyoAnyone familiar with compiz?03:03
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forhamnot when the host os is vista :)03:03
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NightBirdpollyo: I know of it.... but the only experience i have is with beryl which is a branch of it03:03
NightBirdforham: I was assuming a guest os of Vista03:04
pollyoNighBird: Thanks.03:04
forhamkubuntu yes03:04
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nosrednaekimwait a sec... there was just some OSS project to port the rotating cube to vista03:04
forhamkubunti as guest03:04
azmodeanI'm trying to compile and install the latest stable kernel build on kubuntu, would this be the place to ask for help, or shoud I look for a kernel-oriented channel?03:04
forhamthat doesnt explain the cube tho NightBird03:04
NightBirdhm.... maybe xgl in cygwin?  But I think that would only affect the X windows and not regular windows programs so that's out03:05
forhamlol03:05
NightBirdyeah, some open source version available for windows vista/xp that duplicates the same effect03:05
forhamsee not see easy afterall huh ;')03:05
Yorokobiazmodean, you want to compile your own kernel ?03:05
forhamits still pretty kewl ;)03:05
nosrednaekimyeah,,,03:06
azmodeanwell I've compiled it, but I seem to be running into an initrd issue03:06
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azmodeanmy symptoms match an issue that seems to have come up with yaird a year or so ago, but the reccommended fixes don't do anything for me03:07
forhamNightBird,  xgl is opensource :)03:07
vvvwhat do i do to make vlc play a movie as my x wallpaper03:07
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NightBirdforham: yeah, I know...03:07
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NightBirdforham: I also know that there is a cygwin implementation of it03:07
forhamyeah but that one has issue like you said03:08
NightBirdwhat, that it doesn't handle the windows desktop as well?03:08
NightBirdof course not.... it's sitting ontop of the windows desktop as an extension03:08
forhamyeah03:09
NightBirdso it's some rotating cube effect for vista with kubuntu running in a virtual machine?03:09
NightBirdhm...03:09
forhambut stardock the company that made the vista ui is working on an xgl clone03:09
NightBirdoh really03:09
NightBirdI wonder if that's included in the package that I bought...03:09
forhamyeah03:09
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forhamyou are right nightbird03:09
pollyoAnyone running KVM?03:10
forhamits an app that clones xgl on windows03:10
forhambut not as rich of course03:10
xnitexokay how do i remove a link from the source line03:10
vvvdoes anyone know how to make vlc play a movie as my wallpaper?03:10
nosrednaekimpollyo: tried... it didn't work..03:10
xnitexthat i put into it and now it won't let me run adept03:10
xnitex>.<03:10
pollyononsrednaekim: Do you run qemu/kqemu ?03:10
forhamnice emo of pinching eyes z03:11
forhamxnitex,03:11
nosrednaekimpollyo: I was trying...03:11
NightBirdforham: what's the name?03:11
nosrednaekimdidn't work (at least for botting a cd03:11
nosrednaekim*booting03:12
pollyonosrednaekim: I've had success with the qemu/kqemu.03:12
nosrednaekimok..03:12
pollyonosrednaekim: This machine can not run kvm.03:12
xnitext not as rich of course03:12
xnitex[20:10:24]  <xnitex> okay how do i remove a link from the source line03:12
xnitex[20:10:25]  <vvv> does anyone know how to make vlc play a movie as my wallpaper?03:12
xnitex[20:10:29]  <nosrednaekim> pollyo: tried... it didn't work..03:12
xnitex[20:10:30]   Signoff: ubuntu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))03:12
xnitex[20:10:30]  <xnitex> that i put into it and now it won't let me run adept03:12
xnitex[20:10:33]  <xnitex> >.<03:12
xnitex[20:10:58]  <pollyo> nonsrednaekim: Do you run qemu/kqemu ?03:12
xnitex[20:11:25]  <forham> nice emo of pinching eyes z03:12
xnitex[20:11:27]  <forham> xnitex,03:12
xnitex[20:11:51]  <nosrednaekim> pollyo: I was trying...03:12
xnitex[20:11:54]   Signoff: pauljw ("Leaving")03:12
xnitex[20:11:56]  <NightBird> forham: what's the name?03:12
xnitex[20:11:59]  <nosrednaekim> didn't work (at least for botting a cd03:12
xnitex[20:12:10]  <nosrednaekim> *booting03:12
xnitexshit sorry03:12
NightBird>_>03:12
xnitex:[[[[03:13
xnitexi was trying to paste the error gyahh03:13
xnitexE: Type 'http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list03:13
xnitexE: Unable to lock the list directory03:13
xnitexthere?03:13
NightBirdbe more careful next time03:13
xnitex:[[[03:13
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xnitexhelp?03:13
intelikey!help03:13
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots03:13
Betzeferany 1 knows how to put the network connection icon in the tray bar when connected ?03:13
forhamthe name NightBird03:13
NightBirdxnitex: post your /etc/apt/sources.list in one of the paste sites03:13
Betzeferany 1 knows how to put the network connection icon in the tray bar when connected ?03:13
vvvxnitex i'm not sure what your reply was to my question03:13
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nosrednaekimBetzefer: wlanassistant?03:14
Betzeferwhat ?03:14
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Betzeferdont u know the 2 little computers in the taskbar ?03:14
Betzeferlike in windows03:15
Betzefer?03:15
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pollyonosrednaekim: You can boot from the actual CD drive or from an ISO file.03:15
pollyonosrednaekim: Using qemu.03:15
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moby_pythonBetzefer are you using a dial up connection?03:15
intelikeyBetzefer which window ?03:16
Betzeferrouter03:16
Betzeferhmm the two little computers in the traybar03:16
Betzeferwhen u are connected to the web03:16
Betzeferjust like windows03:16
Betzeferi have it on my backtrack cd03:16
Betzeferit uses kde 203:16
xnitexokay i took out the repository entry i incorrectly typed in in kedit03:16
xnitexand its not letting me save it03:16
Betzeferas well03:16
xnitex???03:16
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sandihi03:17
intelikeyxnitex kdesu03:17
sandidoes anybody knows http://www.crossmeta.com/crossmeta.html ?03:17
xnitexsorry - kedit unable to make a backup of the original file and just lets me click ok?03:17
xnitexi dont understand what u mean by kdesu?03:18
intelikey!kdesu > xnitex03:18
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Betzeferno one knows how to ?03:18
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wolferineBetzefer, knows what (just walked in) ?03:19
Betzefernope03:19
Betzeferi asked a couple of minuts ago03:19
Betzeferu know the two little computers down in the taskbar ?03:19
Betzeferwhen u connect to the web03:19
Betzefer?03:19
YorokobiBetzefer, no03:20
moby_pythonIt must be a specific program.03:20
YorokobiI'm not familiar with that03:20
Betzeferlike in windows03:20
xnitexThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by an incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem?03:20
wolferineBetzefer, in windows or ubuntu/kubuntu ?03:20
intelikeywolferine he's wanting to minimize the connection app to the taskbar03:20
Betzeferkubuntu03:20
wolferineBetzefer, what about it?03:20
Betzeferhow do i make it to apper03:20
Betzefer?03:20
Betzefercause i dont have it now03:21
wolferineBetzefer, why do you want it?03:21
Betzeferi have it when i use my kse backtrack cd03:21
Betzeferi like it03:21
wolferineBetzefer, u wireless?03:21
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Betzeferinstead of doing ifconfig03:21
wolferineBetzefer, u wireless?03:21
xnitexok i just took out the line and it loaded up03:21
Betzefernope03:21
wolferinehmm03:21
Betzeferlan03:21
moby_pythontry running kppp03:21
xnitexbut when i try to upgrade the distro it gives me an error03:21
wolferinewell, you can add a icon in your taskbar I think03:21
wolferinethat will monitor your network03:21
wolferineright click the area, then see if you can add03:22
wolferineif you want something more advanced, there is lots out there03:22
Betzeferi donsent have an option that talks about networks03:22
xnitexan error during update menu pops up after it offers me to upgrade the distro03:22
xnitexFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)03:22
Betzeferlike what ?03:22
xnitex??? :[[[03:22
wolferineBetzefer, on the app bar, or at the end?03:22
wolferinewell, I use gDesklets, cause I have ubuntu03:23
Betzefernext 2 the clock03:23
wolferinebut I am sure it will work in KDE as well03:23
Betzeferwhats that ?03:23
xnitexhelp?03:23
wolferinegoogle it man :)03:23
xnitexplz?03:23
moby_pythonBetzefer do you have kppp in your kmenu > internet> kppp?03:23
wolferinexnitex, one at a time please03:23
Betzeferya03:24
wolferineBetzefer, its just not worth waste time on that one little thing, if you want more, google gDEsktlets03:24
wolferineits cool03:24
moby_pythonhave you tried running that?03:24
wolferinenot like Beryl cool, but its nice03:24
Betzeferthat would help me ?03:24
wolferinexnitex, so you need to edit your sources.list03:24
xnitexno i'm past that part03:24
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wolferinewell, you need to edit it again03:24
xnitexokay with what and for?03:25
wolferinetake out the us in us.archive03:25
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wolferineget it from a different site03:25
wolferineor wait a day or two03:25
xnitexin every entry?03:25
wolferinejust the one that matches the error03:25
xnitexand i got it from the wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade03:26
xnitex?03:26
xnitexi've already passed that part03:26
xnitexi'm on the gzip error part?03:26
xnitex:[03:26
wolferineget it from a different site...03:26
xnitexyeah like my n00b ass knows where to get a diff site when thats from the official site03:26
xnitex:[03:27
wolferinei already told you03:27
xnitexa different site is what u told me03:27
wolferinetake out the us03:27
xnitexin every repo entry in the list?03:28
xnitex:O03:28
wolferinejust the ONE that gave the error03:28
wolferinei hate repeating myself03:28
xnitexdude okay you're still on my first prob03:28
xnitexand you aren't listening to me03:28
wolferineyou should read what I wrote03:28
xnitexi finished that03:28
xnitexperhaps you should listen to what i write03:28
wolferineyou tried another sire?03:28
wolferinesite*03:28
xnitexno i took out the bad entry03:28
intelikeyxnitex perhaps you should.03:28
xnitexfrom the jriddel one03:28
wolferinegood luck03:28
xnitexi load adept03:29
Yorokobixnitex, are you using Kubuntu 64 ?03:29
xnitexit runs now03:29
xnitexi am using edgy03:29
xnitexubuntu03:29
xnitexwith kde 3.5.5 running03:29
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xnitexusing adept and i do fetch updates03:29
Yorokobiwhy are you using the jriddel repo?03:29
philfo1oh goodness.03:29
xnitexi'm not i took it out03:29
BluesKajI have no fglrx drivers on the system...they were wiped off ...need to reinstall ...tried to go back to an earlier date xserver-xorg but no luck ...any ideas ?03:29
xnitexafter i do fetch updates it brings up upgrade wizard03:29
xnitexa new version of kubuntu is available click next if you wish to upgrade, and i do so03:30
wolferineah, I think I understand you now03:30
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wolferinebut you still dont have to remove the entire line03:30
xnitexget to downloading and verying the upgrade took that works03:30
philfo1ok, I happened to get most of this back up & running, BUT I'm not on the install or hd that I want to be.03:30
wolferineand you werent clear on what EXACTLY the issue was03:30
YorokobiBluesKaj, synaptic has a roll-back option you could try03:30
xnitexclick finish to close adept package manager03:30
xnitexdistrobution upgrade pops up03:30
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xnitexupdating kubuntu to 7.0403:30
BluesKajno way to get to X ...I'm on TTY , Yorokobi03:31
xnitexon the preparing upgrade part when its fetching everything03:31
xnitexit comes up with an error03:31
xnitexa problem occured during the update, this is usually some sort of network problem, please check your network connection and retry03:31
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Chemicalvampsame fetching file 115 of 855 at 50kb/s 5 hours remaining03:31
xnitexand i have done that 029203920390239023902390239 times already03:31
xnitexand i'm on it right now, so i dont see the problem being there03:31
YorokobiBluesKaj, do you want to get the fglrx drivers or roll-back X or both?03:31
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xnitexFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) is what pops up03:32
intelikey!feisty | xnitex03:32
ubotuxnitex: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)03:32
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i got the resolution fixed!03:32
Sesshoumaruthanks03:32
xnitexuhm okay?03:32
Yorokobixnitex, replace the us with gb and try it again03:32
xnitexok03:32
BluesKajtried rolling back X , it wont' work without the fglrx drivers03:32
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what did you do?03:32
xnitexgb.archive is the second entry in the repo list03:33
xnitexso its ALREADY there?03:33
Sesshoumaruerr.. not sure.. chnaged the resolution with a different thing..03:33
Sesshoumarubut it worked cause of the cfgs03:33
YorokobiBluesKaj, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx03:33
Yorokobixnitex, so remove the us one03:34
xnitexalmost everyone of them is a us one03:34
xnitex???03:34
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xnitexso i should remove all of them is what you are saying besides the http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-propsed main one?03:35
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Yorokobidude, xnitex : your problem is with the edgy-proposed with us. Nuke it03:35
Yorokobinot the others03:35
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intelikeysudo sed 's/us.archive/nl.archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list03:35
Yorokobiintelikey, too many changes there03:36
xnitexthats the only one that closely matches deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed restricted main multiverse universe03:36
LINI_IXhy can nybody help me pls my screen resolution changed to 640x480 and i cant change it back03:36
Chemicalvampi might be of some help i JUST did this03:36
xnitex??? and there is no us in front of it?03:36
xnitex:[[[03:36
Yorokobixnitex, deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main is the ONLY edgy-proposed entry you need. The others (just edgy) don't change03:37
pagansmindhumm03:37
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Chemicalvampare you doing genaric, i386, or am64?03:37
Yorokobior need to be removed03:37
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intelikeyLINI_IX did you change the vidio driver ?03:39
xnitexok so yeah03:39
Chemicalvampxnitex: it should look like this deb - http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ - / for i386 ! - seperates fields03:39
LINI_IXnon it changed bi itself03:39
xnitexi took out that line i pasted03:39
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xnitexand it still gives me the same error when fetching packages to upgrade kubuntu03:40
pollyoAnyone familiar with Reaktivate?03:40
Chemicalvamp!paste03:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:40
Yorokobixnitex, well then. prefix it with #03:40
Chemicalvampshow it to me03:40
xnitexhrm?03:40
ubuntuHello all.....I just installed Kubuntu and restarted and windows loaded and GRUB didn't show up...so I followed the various guides teling me to use the terminal to mess with grub, but when I use the find command it can't it can't find anything.03:40
Chemicalvampshow me the error03:40
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Chemicalvampuse the website to paste it03:40
Yorokobiubuntu, what are you using for find ?03:41
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ubuntuterminal>grub   "find /boot/grub/stage1" is what the guide said to do03:41
xnitexChemicalVamp : Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)03:41
intelikeyLINI_IX   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    is how to redefine the vidio settings.  then restarting the xserver ( [ctrl] +[alt] +[backspace]  )    should make it to where you can adjust the settings from within the gui app.03:41
xnitexhrm?03:42
Yorokobiubuntu, try find / -name stage1 ... but /boot/grub/ is where stage1 is located03:42
xnitexi'm a cunt hair away from having no hair left or walking away because i dont understand?03:42
xnitexperhaps someone could rd with me to help fix this?03:42
forhamYorokobi, i still have the same issue :(03:42
forhamlet me start up kubuntu at the far side of the kube03:42
forhamand ask again as ubuntu03:42
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Chemicalvampxnitex, type sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:43
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intelikeyChemicalvamp no.03:43
intelikeykdesu   not sudo03:43
Chemicalvampthats just what i did03:43
intelikey!kdesu | Chemicalvamp03:43
ubotuChemicalvamp: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo03:43
m4ntisyoro:  I tried exactly that and I still got an Error 15: file not found03:44
freezadoes anyone know how to make an alias to have my eth0 which is my wireless to go to wlan0?03:44
xnitexokay either way03:44
xnitexits opened now03:44
intelikey!worksforme | Chemicalvamp03:44
ubotuChemicalvamp: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.03:44
xnitexnow what chemical?03:44
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Chemicalvampopen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste it, click paste and copy the link here and show it to us03:45
taz_Hello. I'm new Linux user and I'm looking for a full transparency shell.03:45
Chemicalvampi agree with intelikey . im new didnt know thanks intelikey03:45
Yorokobim4ntis, try ' ls /boot/grub' is there a stage1 there ? i03:45
m4ntiswell that may be a problem...."no such directory"03:46
Yorokobitaz_, if you have beryl up and running you can use konsole-alpha or tweak beryl to give the same effect to yukuake03:46
m4ntismaybe the isntall didn't work right03:46
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Chemicalvampbut paste the sorces.list in that site and click paste, and give us the link03:47
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xnitexdude i pasted the error in here chemicalvamp without having to use that03:47
taz_Yorokobi: Erf... Does beryl need lot of RAM?03:47
xnitexand i dont even know what syntax to use03:47
Yorokobim4ntis, yeah. No /boot/grub is not good unless you're using a different boot loader (LILO ??)03:47
intelikeyChemicalvamp welcome.    saves trying to sort out the problems with permissions if you don't tell them to do things that will muck up perms.   less stress for all.03:47
xnitexIM A NEWBIE?03:47
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flaccidi have permission denied/cannot access my optical drive, what should i do03:47
Yorokobitaz_, it needs a decent video card03:47
intelikeyflaccid what is the fs on it ?03:47
Chemicalvampxnitex, did you already add the repository for the update?03:47
taz_Yorokobi: I have ATI Radeon Xpress200M.03:47
xnitexwhat repository, CHRIST03:48
Yorokobitaz_, you can get a partial transparency with konsole03:48
xnitexI have all the repos in there03:48
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xnitexThe upgrade distro is already to the point of "preparing the upgrade"03:48
flaccidintelikey: it seems that only kde/hald has problems mounting it. doing a mount /media/cdrom0 works as a normal user03:48
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intelikeytaz looked at eterm ?03:48
xnitexand it is fetching and says fetching complete and brings up the error window03:48
taz_Yorokobi: yeah I know03:48
taz_intelikey: nop, only use Konsole03:49
m4ntiswell, let me walk through what I did...I have a partition 20gb partition that I split into a swap and a ext2 partition, then I mounted them as the swap and /, where should I have mounted /boot?03:49
xnitexdo you understand where i'm at now?03:49
LINI_IXhy i cant change my screen resolution pls help me03:49
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m4ntisbecause I'm guessing that's what happened03:49
YorokobiEterm's transparency is similar to konsole's except that eterm has a harder time keeping up with changes to the desktop background03:49
Chemicalvampwich repository did you use?03:49
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xnitexthe ones you all told me to03:50
intelikeyflaccid sorry then i might be able to help with the other end but kde is more than i care to try to learn...      "dog too old to learn new tricks."03:50
xnitex?03:50
kaiIm using ktorrent I'm having a seeding issue03:50
Chemicalvampi didnt get that error, but i used the correct repo03:50
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Yorokobim4ntis, /boot should be created with /03:50
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Chemicalvampthere are three choices on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade03:50
kaiI have all my ports opnede and everything is there anything I might be missing03:50
xnitexwhy dont you tell me again that i should delete every repo03:50
xnitexand just give me the repo i need thats the "correct" one03:50
Chemicalvampyou ony need one03:50
xnitexsince i guess the upgrade distro03:50
xnitexand all that is WRONG03:50
m4ntisweird...is there any way to go about redoing that without messing with the entire install?03:50
xnitexsince its already fetching03:51
Chemicalvampnotice the or:03:51
xnitexand all of that?03:51
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xnitexhrm? whats the correct and ONLY repo i need in the list then chemical i'm sorry for being so frustrated03:51
xnitexits just really pissing me off03:51
Chemicalvampwhats your archeticture? pentium or amd03:52
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xnitexpentium03:52
Chemicalvampok then you need i38603:52
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Yorokobim4ntis, what happens when you run sudo update-grub ?03:52
xnitexokay well i dont think any of you are understanding me03:53
xnitexi'm using adept03:53
xnitexand i only need to have the gb repo active03:53
xnitexand disable every other one?03:53
xnitexmaybe that will work?03:53
m4ntisno grub directory found and the commands to install/create03:53
ufo_How can i know where is configurated the modem usb?03:53
ufo_tty003:53
ufo_tty103:53
Sneakhey guys, i'm trying to ./configure an app but i'm getting "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" not sure exactly what i'm missing03:53
ufo_etc etc03:53
intelikey!patience03:54
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:54
Chemicalvampso your only added repository should be "deb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356/ (next field) /03:54
Yorokobim4ntis, how about sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub ??03:54
flaccidintelikey: i dunno br0. i think the problem is kubuntu but yeah03:54
YorokobiChemicalvamp, that's the AMD 64 repo, not the i38603:54
LINI_IXis there anybody who can help me here03:54
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Chemicalvampack your right03:55
m4ntisYorokobi:  didn't appear to do anything03:55
xnitexokay so which repo?03:55
xnitexaahaha03:55
Chemicalvampdeb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ (next field) /03:55
xnitexhttp://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?03:55
intelikeyflaccid ummm if you can mount it from the command line without issue but kde (kioslave) is not working for you... it's ubuntu yeah but it's in the kde department.  not in the kernel/fs/base_system   department.03:56
Yorokobim4ntis, I don't know03:56
Chemicalvampdont use http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/, you should use archectecture specific03:56
m4ntisyorokobi:  fair enough, do you think I should mess with trying to manually install grub?03:57
intelikeyLINI_IX did you reconfigure xorg ?03:57
YorokobiLINI_IX, when you click on Kmenu -> System Settings -> Monitor & Display then Administrator mode you should be able to change the resolution03:57
Yorokobi!fixres | LINI_IX03:57
ubotuLINI_IX: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:57
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Yorokobim4ntis, that's up to you. I'd back up everything you need first though :)03:58
SneakCan anyone tell me what i'm missing to fix a "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check" error when configuring apps03:58
YorokobiSneak, what are you trying to compile ?03:58
SneaktransKode specifically03:59
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esaymwhat protocol and cipher uses the least amount of cpu cycles?03:59
flaccidintelikey: i don't think its that easily abstracted. ubuntu userland could be responsible because i have no problem on same box with freebsd and kde same kde version03:59
flaccid!cdrom03:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:59
flaccid!hald04:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hald - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:00
flaccidah well04:00
esaymI can only transfer to a box I have at 1mbs because the cpu is maxed....04:00
YorokobiSneak, have you read through http://www.transcoding.org/cgi-bin/transcode?Building_Transcode04:00
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flaccidintelikey: i'll see if #kde can shed light thanks br004:00
m4ntisoh well, I may try a reinstall, I have the time to blow :)  thanks anyway yorokobi04:01
Yorokobim4ntis, if you do, create a 100MB ext3 partition specifically for /boot04:01
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intelikeyflaccid sorry i can't do anything to really help there...04:01
Sneakthats a different transcode Yorokobi :)04:01
Sneaki'm trying to configure transKode with a K04:01
m4ntisyorokobi:  is there a large difference between ext2 and ext3?04:02
SneakI'm assuming i'm missing something in general to ./configure applications04:02
Yorokobijournaling v non-journaling04:02
ufo_why modem is busy on tty0-1-2-304:02
ufo_?04:02
ufo_help me!04:02
Chemicalvamp!helpme04:03
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:03
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Yorokobiufo_, tty1-12 is the local tty, not a modem04:03
intelikey!b-e | Sneak04:03
ubotuSneak: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:03
Yorokobia USB modem might be /dev/usb???04:03
intelikey!modem04:04
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto04:04
Sneakthere we go, intelikey always comes through ;)04:04
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taz_when I open Konqueror, I see /home and /media only. Where are /bin, /etc, /usr  etc etc?04:05
tarelerulzHow would you set up a twm session?04:05
Yorokobitaz_, type /etc or /bin in the location bar04:06
ufo_if i use /dev/usb it can't find the directory!!!04:06
ufo_and so?04:06
Sneakyay for build-essential, I always forget to install that, thanks :)04:06
taz_Yokorobi : arf :/04:06
tarelerulzI just see home and media too04:06
intelikeySneak np.04:06
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tarelerulzwhen I go into the konqueror or any file manager04:07
taz_Yorokobi: thanks. Why can't i see them directly?04:07
intelikey!hidden | taz_04:07
ubotutaz_: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)04:07
YorokobiThere you go ^^04:07
flaccidlol04:07
taz_Aaaahhhh.... moarf04:07
flaccidwhy did they introduce it then04:07
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intelikeyflaccid actually i think that was my fault....04:08
Chemicalvampxnitex, is it working?04:08
taz_To keep noob away from sensitives files I guess04:08
Yorokobithat'd be my guess04:08
intelikeytaz_ yes04:08
flaccidlol04:09
flaccidthats what fs perms/posix is for hehe04:09
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m4ntismy partitions are acting weird now,  I have my 20gb partition, when I partition 18gb for the ext3 it won't let me manipulate the left over portion so I can't make a swap or a /boot partition04:09
Yorokobiand SELinux for those who go through the trouble04:09
taz_erf, can't open internet site with Konqueror now... damn04:10
flaccidi would of thought a firewall for ubuntu would of been a bigger priority04:10
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Yorokobim4ntis, make the small partitions first04:10
intelikeyflaccid i was blabbering about how i had hidden the root fs by ching perms    chmod 751 /   while they were gathering ideas for edgy "before dapper released"   and lo and behold there it is....04:10
intelikeychanging ^04:10
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flaccidah fair enough04:11
intelikeyflaccid firewall ?   linux has one.  called iptables   built into the kernel04:11
flaccidi know04:11
intelikeydid you mean a configurator ?04:11
flaccidubuntu installer doesn't ask if you want it does it? ie. no firewall by default on ubuntu04:11
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intelikeyno firewall needed by default.   no services running04:12
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utnubukmy screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick04:12
flaccidsecurity engineers would disagree with you on that04:12
Yorokobiflaccid, not like RHEL/CentOS/FC5|6, no04:12
hitmanWillyflaccid: try lokkit04:12
utnubukanybody else run into a similar problem?04:12
flaccidi'm just saying ubuntu has no firewall native/default04:13
flaccidi do know how to configure a firewall..04:13
m4ntisyorokobi:  doesn't resolve the problem the second chunk won't give me the option to edit it04:13
intelikeyflaccid security engineers would disagree with making a root jr. account and calling it safer than a root password too...04:13
m4ntiswould being a primary partion be the problem?04:13
Yorokobim4ntis, maybe ... this is why I don't like the gui installer :)04:14
m4ntishaha, I'd be up for non-gui, but I'm a total newbie04:14
intelikeyflaccid heh could do an iptables reject all  by default...  :)04:14
Yorokobiintelikey, that'd be bad04:15
Yorokobi:)04:15
intelikeyYorokobi it'd be safe04:15
Yorokobibut bad04:15
Yorokobiunless ESTABLISHED rules were in place04:15
flaccidyes ubuntu is not exactly a security related distro04:15
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taz_Could someone tell me how to see hidden files and directories? (can't connect to any site, don't know why)04:15
intelikeysafty is normally bad   in a very general sense04:15
hitmanWillyjust unplug your network cable, thats the safest of all04:16
hitmanWilly:)04:16
pagansmindls -a04:16
Yorokobitaz_ in konqueror or konsole ?04:16
intelikeyhitman yep no box is safe if it's pluged in (or ran on battery)04:17
taz_Yorokobi: in konqueror04:17
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Yorokobitaz_, click on View then Show Hidden Files04:17
intelikeytaz_ in konqueror's menu ^04:17
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pollyointelikey: So solar power is secure? <grin>04:17
intelikeytaz_ they are not hidden from the konsole tho04:17
taz_Yorokobi: grmf, I saw it earlier and I did't remember where04:18
intelikeypollyo as long as it's dark.  </grin>04:18
pollyolol04:18
m4ntisI think I'm going to boot into windows and partition magic it04:18
soulriderhi everyone :)04:18
m4ntisthanks again yorokobi :)04:18
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Yorokobisorry m4ntis its not usually so difficult04:18
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m4ntisyea, it was really easy last time, which is why I was so perplexed.  Oh well...I'm patient04:19
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YorokobiOf course, Yorokobi has more experience installing RHEL/CentOS than Kubuntu ... disk partitioning is more flexible with those installers04:19
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taz_Free from windows.... yahaaaa!!!04:20
SesshoumaruYorokobi can you tell me how to compile a wifi driver?04:20
Yorokobioy04:20
intelikeyflaccid ubuntu is a little like M$ Windows (R)  in that respect.  by default, it's not nearly as secure as it can be.   the user is "expected" to add security measures that parallel their needs.04:20
Sesshoumarui'm about free from M$   :)04:20
pollyoDo they have a voice recognition program for kde?04:20
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YorokobiWhat wifi card/chipset do you have Sesshoumaru ?04:20
tarelerulzI have the mplayer plugin for firefox and it does not play all the file mplayer covers04:21
soulridertaz_: being free form widnows is the best!!04:21
SesshoumaruYorokobi: Belkin F5D7000.. i already have the correct driver. but i have to compile it04:21
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intelikeybeing free from M$ and all non-free code   is the best.04:21
soulriderintelikey: its still really secure though IMHO04:21
flaccidintelikey: yeah its in oxymoron, however ubuntu goals are not really that clear04:22
tarelerulzIt gives me the option to save it to the hard drive04:22
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you've confirmed this with Belkin and/or the ubuntu wiki ?04:22
taz_soulrider: I agree! I just keep it for games04:22
soulridertaz_: like me :P04:22
taz_soulrider: ^^04:22
soulridertaz_: i actually have a 20 GB partition with win just to play Command and Conquer and Lineage II, but with college i dont really have time to play anyore04:22
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SesshoumaruYorokobi: what do you mean?... i have the source code for the correct driver04:23
soulriderright now im using an empty hard drive, which i installed arch on04:23
elitehackerhey i am having problems in decieding wich java files do i use on my "os" and PC?04:23
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soulriderand im trying to figure out how to install xorg and GNOME now :P04:23
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what I mean is, is that chipset supported by the 2.6 kernel?04:23
taz_soulrider: Huuu college.... I'm french, there's not same meaning here.04:23
SesshoumaruYorokobi: er.. i haven't checked,...where can i find out?04:24
soulridertaz_: university, whatever, im busy! :P04:24
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soulrideri wish irssi had a bit more colors :P04:24
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Carutsuby any chance do anyone knows if there's a plugin for Konqueror for mutting flash apps?04:24
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intelikeyflaccid if i understand the origenal goal at all,  the basic plan is to put linux in the list of choices when you go to a site and start to dl something and it says   for   windows 9x,me click here   for windows nt,xp click here   or for mac click here          </end of list>       and in that respect the basic idea is "compeet with M$ for popularity"   which is not the best course imo.04:25
soulriderCarutsu: cant you right click them and disable sounds ?04:25
taz_soulrider : Oh ok.04:25
elitehackerhey which file do i download for my kubuntu Linux RPM or LINUX self extract. i am trying to donwload java04:25
Carutsuelitehacker: wait a second... never tryed04:25
elitehackerheres the link04:25
Yorokobielitehacker, Kubuntu is not RPM friendly04:25
soulriderelitehacker: for the 999999999th time, read the friggin wiki!04:25
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elitehackerhttp://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.co04:25
Carutsuelitehacker: nope04:26
elitehackerwich one thou?04:26
Carutsuelitehacker: doesn't have that option04:26
intelikeybut it's not my distro.  it's marks and his opention trumps mine.04:26
elitehackeri know its not RPM04:26
intelikeyopenion04:26
elitehackerbut theres some there that are x68? when mine is x8604:26
soulriderintelikey: ubuntu is what got me into linux04:26
Jucatoopinion04:26
soulriderlol Jucato04:26
Jucato:)04:26
soulriderhow are you today Jucato  ?04:26
pollyoelitehacker: You still working on java?04:26
elitehackeryes04:27
pollyoelitehacker: Start up adept.04:27
elitehackerlol i got frost to install but it wont open04:27
soulriderpollyo: he wont read the damn wikis!04:27
elitehackerk04:27
intelikeyJucato will you never learn to speek intelikey'ish  ?04:27
elitehackerk i have it started04:27
pollyosoulrider: He will not even listen to suggestions.04:27
soulrideryeah04:27
SesshoumaruYorokobi: what program can i compile this with?04:27
Jucatopollyo, elitehacker: unless you are on Feisty *do not* install Java using Adept04:27
elitehackerhey i have adept strated04:27
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elitehackerwhats feisty?04:28
pollyoelitehacker: :click VIEW04:28
Jucato!java | elitehacker04:28
ubotuelitehacker: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.04:28
YorokobiSesshoumaru, where'd you get the driver from ?04:28
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soulriderJucato: this has been going on for the last 36 hours04:28
intelikey!feisty > elitehacker04:28
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SesshoumaruYorokobi: http://madwifi.org04:28
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soulriderJucato: we already gave him all sort of links to wikis about installing software, package management, but he wont listen to suggestions or anything04:28
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pollyoelitehacker: Did you click View?04:28
elitehackeryes but the wont work04:28
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i think i get a deb04:28
elitehackeryes04:28
pollyoelitehacker: : What were the options?04:29
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soulriderok, im gonna go try to install xorg, bbl! :P04:29
elitehackerwhy are u giving me links to beta version?04:29
pollyoelitehacker: What were the options when you clicked view?04:29
taz_because feisty is in beta version04:29
elitehackeron what i am just veiwing the first link about the ubuntu fourms04:29
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taz_release is... 14 of april (?)04:30
YorokobiSesshoumaru, that's an Atheros-based card. It should work out of the box (no compiling necessary)04:30
pollyoelitehacker: I was discussing adept.  I thought you said you had started it.04:30
elitehackeryeah04:30
pollyoelitehacker: Ok then... What are the options under the VIEW option?04:30
elitehackeri did but then i closed becuase u sayed i needed fiesty but i dont so u told me not to install java threw adept04:30
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soulriderdamn, xorg is onlt 23mB ?04:31
pollyoelitehacker: I never said feisty.  That was someone else in the room suggesting feisty.04:31
elitehackerohh lol04:31
pollyoelitehacker: At the very least they were discussing it.04:31
elitehackerk i will start it again04:31
intelikeysoulrider xorg is not that big is it?  you must mean x + it's deps ???04:31
elitehackeris it true there is no viruses for kubuntu?04:31
soulriderintelikey: yeah04:31
soulriderintelikey: a craplaod pf packages actually04:32
pollyoelitehacker: Stick to one concern at a time please.04:32
elitehackerlol i have it opend04:32
soulriderlol pollyo04:32
Yorokobielitehacker, someone wrote a virus for linux years ago but it won't work now.04:32
pollyoelitehacker: Ok.  What did it show when you clicked VIEW04:32
Jucatopollyo: you can modify the sources.list from Adept. but do not install Java through adept. you won't be able to accept the license agreement in Adept04:32
Jucatojust a note as you walk him through it. good luck04:32
intelikeySize: 3529126 soulrider04:32
elitehackershow package list show last download04:33
intelikey3.5M04:33
pollyoJucato: I just want to have him extend the Sources using the GUI04:33
soulriderwe need to modify konversation so that when grammar starts getting terrible, it zaps people through their keyboards :P04:33
elitehackershow dpkg run04:33
flaccidouch04:33
flaccidthat hurt04:33
soulriderintelikey: thats tiny!04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away04:33
SesshoumaruYorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)04:33
flaccidsorry i'm testing a konversation zap beta04:33
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pollyosoulrider: I could have used that when I was a kid.  You can not teach an old dog new tricks.04:33
elitehackeri have great grammar unlike some ppl its like giberish04:33
xnitexin adept distibution upgrade why does it say this error and how can i fix it? Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy-proposed/Release Unable to find expected entry  [WWW] /binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)04:33
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pollyoelitehacker: Click VIEW and then Manage Repositories04:34
soulriderelitehacker: thats what they tell you :P04:34
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what was reporting the signal strength?04:34
intelikeythat's it's size   plus a few k of modules for your kb and mouse and vidio card.  about 4M in all.04:34
Sesshoumaru Yorokobi: i didn't get a good signal (like 30-40) with the router like a foot away04:34
SesshoumaruYorokobi: you have to know something.. i'm a noob. (<_<)04:34
elitehackeralll rite i did04:34
philphotoany reliability problems with feisty?04:34
pollyoelitehacker: What happened after you did that?04:34
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elitehackerits shows faded txt comment## inuvirse will not recive and all that04:35
soulriderintelikey: the binaries in the arch repos are 23mB total which i find 100% acceptable :P04:35
soulriderJucato: indeed :P04:35
flaccidintelikey: heh i found the bug for cdrom i think. kde wants to mount as /media/dvdrecorder which does not exist04:35
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elitehackerhey now what do i do pollyo04:35
intelikeyflaccid hmmm is it actually a burner ?04:35
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what was reporting the signal strength?04:35
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flaccidyeah04:35
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soulriderthis is funny, i have an ATA hard drive, and its appearing as 'sda'04:36
flaccidhmm still say 'Permissions denied'04:36
pollyoelitehacker: Did a window titled Software Sources open?04:36
Sesshoumarulike 30-40 a foot away from the router04:36
elitehackerno..nothing04:36
tarelerulzin firefox I seem to have the option to change what it use to open file to out side program04:36
intelikeyflaccid ;/04:36
pollyoelitehacker: Do you see "Software Sources" listed in the bar at the bottom of the screen?04:36
YorokobiSesshoumaru, what reported the signal strength?04:36
tarelerulzI don't have the option to change it so all media is play with mplayer plugin04:37
Sesshoumarui just told you04:37
flaccidintelikey: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=7nW&q=kde+%22permissions+denied%22+cdrom&btnG=Search04:37
intelikeyi think i'll install debian so i can be leet.04:37
SesshoumaruYorokobi, he signal is crap04:37
YorokobiSesshoumaru, you told me what the signal strength was but not what reported it04:37
elitehackerpollyo: cant we just share dsktop and u can see what i see instead of talking it would be alot simpler04:37
utnubukmy screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick04:37
soulriderintelikey: i jave a question, when someone pastes a link here on IRC, how do you copy it so you can open it up on links or some browser in another console ?04:37
pollyoelitehacker: It is bad enough I am attempting to spoon feed you.04:37
Sesshoumarureported.. how do i find that out? lol04:37
utnubukanybody else run into a similar problem?04:37
YorokobiSesshoumaru, kwifimanager ? knetworkmanager? wlassistant?04:38
taz_Is it easy to change KDE env. for Gnome?04:38
flaccidintelikey: maybe this http://archive.kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=125156 but tis a dif distro04:38
pollyoelitehacker: If you want me to login to your desktop you are going to have to change your screen name.04:38
intelikeysoulrider gpm.04:38
soulriderintelikey: youre more than leet :P you dont have xorg (or was that comment sarcastic?)04:38
elitehackerpollyo: why?04:38
intelikeyflaccid k looking.04:38
elitehackerpollyo: cuz it says hacker?04:38
pollyoelitehacker: Elitehackers do not have people remote login to configure the system.04:38
Sesshoumarui have kwifimanager04:38
intelikeysoulrider no it's not crsksm04:39
utnubuklmao04:39
soulriderpollyo: i dont think he is either elite, nor hacker04:39
Sesshoumaruthe card isn't currently in right now04:39
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elitehackerpollyo: i know but i wouldnt do anything if i cant even install java if it was windows then that would be diff.04:39
soulriderintelikey: uhm, ok04:39
soulriderelitehacker: you cant install anything because you dont want to read anything or listen to anything04:39
YorokobiSesshoumaru, how is it you're getting a signal strength with no wifi card in use?04:39
intelikeyand no login either.   "that doesn't mean just autologin,  it means that login is not at all possable piriod"04:40
SesshoumaruYorokobi: LOL.. i just took it out like 5 mins ago04:40
soulriderbesides, your "you copy windows" and "im only gonna use linux for a week, then go back to win" comments werent helpful at all.04:40
elitehackerpollyo: yeah true but since i know windows to good i think of linux as windows (BAD IDEA) and rush evreything04:40
Yorokobioh04:40
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pollyoelitehacker: Ok.  Click VIEW and then Manage repository and tell me what it does again?04:40
elitehackerit shows lists of comments04:40
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elitehackercomment## followed buy random things04:40
pollyoelitehacker: Tell me what is on the bar above View.04:41
elitehackeri can add a new repo or reset or apply on the bottom04:41
intelikeyflaccid heh you did see the  "be sure there is nothing in fstab about the cdrom" didn't you ?    just a thought.04:41
YorokobiSesshoumaru, so aside from the reportedly low signal strength, your wifi works ?04:41
elitehackerit says FETCH UPDATES or PREVIEW CHANGES and the rest is faded out so i cant click on it04:42
intelikeyi have three boot loaders installed.04:42
pollyoelitehacker: Look above those things...04:42
Jucatopollyo: he's seeing the old (pre-feisty) manage repositories window04:42
SesshoumaruYorokobi, uhh no04:42
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pollyoelitehacker: Above "Fetch Updates" , "Preview Changes"... That is where Adept, Edit, View is....04:42
SesshoumaruYorokobi, thats why i wanted a clean driver04:42
elitehackeryeah04:42
pollyoelitehacker: I asked what was above view and you told me "Fetch Updates"04:43
elitehackerpollyo: so now what04:43
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pollyoelitehacker: That is below View.04:43
elitehackerohhh04:43
elitehackerno04:43
YorokobiSesshoumaru, not working at all or not working well enough ?04:43
elitehackernothing just the title bar04:43
pollyoelitehacker: You are beyond my help.04:43
pollyoelitehacker: You will have to find a fellow Elite hacker.04:43
pollyoelitehacker: Good day and Good luck.04:44
elitehackerit shows the title bar ADEPT MANAGER04:44
SesshoumaruYorokobi: i never got internet connection yet it did say it was connected04:44
pollyoelitehacker: Friend.  I can not help you.04:44
soulrideri dont know why, but i feel like i already seen thise lines before pollyo04:44
Jucatolooks like someone gave up too...04:44
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Yorokobielitehacker, skip adept. open konsole and sudo apt-get install synaptic and use that (or use dselect in the terminal)04:44
pollyosoulrider: I didn't believe in ADD medication before today.04:45
elitehackerwont work tried04:45
Jucatoyay! another one to add in to the confusion :)04:45
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soulriderpollyo: theres ADD medication ?04:45
YorokobiSesshoumaru, remind me ... edgy or feisty ?04:45
soulridermy english teacher said i had ADD, and she was kidna right04:45
Yorokobior dapper?04:45
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pollyosoulrider: ADHD and ADD medications.04:45
SesshoumaruYorokobi, edgy 6.1004:45
soulriderwhats ADHD ?04:45
Jucatopollyo: fwiw, what you were looking for, the "Software Sources" window, is only something that is Feisty.04:45
flaccidintelikey: yeah thats what i'm trying now after i get off the phone04:45
Jucatoand since he's on Edgy, he won't see it04:45
elitehackeru sayed what was above VIEW??? obv the title bar??? like what else is supposed to be there?04:45
pollyosoulrider: I couldn't tell you what they stand for exactly.04:46
soulriderk\04:46
intelikeyJucato do my eyes decieve me ?    are you heckeling ?04:46
elitehackeris there a rainbow i click on and java installs?04:46
pollyoJucato: Really...04:46
flaccidintelikey: bbl i'll let you know04:46
intelikeyflaccid k04:46
Jucatopollyo: yes. and I think I've mentioned that 2x already...04:46
YorokobiSesshoumaru, is knetworkmanager installed?04:46
pollyoJucato: OH my... My comment stands... He needs an Elite hacker type to help him.04:46
Jucatosoulrider: Attention-deficit Hyperactivity disorder btw04:47
soulriderpollyo: is that what you call miracles ?04:47
pollyoJucato: Thank you.04:47
SesshoumaruYorokobi, no04:47
bogdanhello, do you know when Feisty will be officialy released, I know that it's in April, but I don't know the day, thnks04:47
soulriderJucato: i SO have that! :P the only thing i can concentrate on is my computer, and not for that long actually04:47
Jucatobogdan: schedule says April 19. but 20+ might be a good estimate too04:47
elitehackeri only got this installed 2days ago i obv dont know what everything is i use this as a backup os04:47
intelikeyhe is heckeling....  tisk tisk04:47
Jucatosoulrider: yeah I think I have that,... ooh pretty wallpaper04:47
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soulriderJucato: i dont realize, but someimtes i keep opening and closing the same window04:48
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SesshoumaruYorokobi, i'll install knetworkmanager now04:48
bogdanJucato: thanks04:48
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soulriderlike, i look at my buddy list from kopete, close it and re open it agan just to read it04:48
Jucato:)04:48
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soulriderlike 2 years ago my teacher said i had ADD, i kind of ignored her, but now when i try to study i realize how right she was04:49
soulriderintelikey: i dont driver04:49
soulriderdrive*04:49
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soulriderbut thats mainly because i cant see crap04:49
elitehackerso why do i open VIEW manage reposistories in adept when i need java? :s04:49
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soulriderand because i know im allways too distracted to drive04:49
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intelikeysoulrider good on ya then.04:50
intelikeysoulrider cause i walk,  and i really don't like getting ran over.04:50
Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: gee, probably to enable the repositories you need to install java.04:50
soulriderintelikey: i just take the bus everywhere, although i tend to miss osme busses ebcause i cant rea the numbers until its too late :P04:50
soulriderint i walk a lot too04:50
elitehackeryeah so why did pollyo tell me to do that then u tell me help" that doesnt help then i get comments form otehr ppl tell the first person that ur help was no good :S COnfusion04:51
soulrider!installing | elitehacker04:51
ubotuelitehacker: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues04:51
soulrider!repos | elitehacker04:51
ubotuelitehacker: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:51
soulriderafter you read all that, ill help you04:51
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intelikeyok we're off topic and jucato will be....     well, Jucato  :)04:51
Daisuke_Idonot exactly the most descriptive of nicks, i take it?04:52
soulriderlol intelikey, he was offtopic himself though04:52
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Jucatoelitehacker: because you've already been given instructions to read and follow. if you read and follow them carefully, you will have already solved your problem04:52
intelikeyssshhh04:52
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intelikeywould have04:52
soulriderhahaha intelikey, youre gonna piss him off :P04:53
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Jucato:P04:53
intelikey:)04:53
sketchb0xim trying to run ubuntu on a laptop as a server, how do i turn off the suspend feature so i can close the laptops lcd04:53
soulriderJucato's grammar is failing!!04:53
Jucatonah. he already did that last month04:53
intelikeymess with my spelling04:53
intelikey:)04:53
Jucatooh, it's a new month!04:53
sketchb0xany idears would help alot.04:53
sketchb0xim almost done!04:53
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elitehackeryes but ppl give me help rite i follow it blah blah blah i read and stuff then someone says in order to do that uneed java WELL NO DUH i need java in the first place so then i follow them in then i get lost in between04:53
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Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: i told you you needed the repositories to INSTALL java.  read what people tell you.04:54
LeeJunFansketchb0x: see the little green battery in the tray? click it - bottom option - when lid is closed - do nothing.04:54
Daisuke_Idoagain, not a descriptive nick :\04:54
intelikeysketchb0x there should be info on the forums about how to enable it    the reverse might work.04:54
soulriderlol Daisuke_Ido04:54
sketchb0xits ubuntu-server04:54
sketchb0xso i have no gui04:54
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LeeJunFansketchb0x: oh, you need to edit powernowd settings then.04:54
soulridersketchb0x: does it suspend or you ahvnt tried it, also, why would you use a laptop as a server ?04:55
intelikeysketchb0x is powernowd  what watches that ?04:55
intelikeyerr LeeJunFan ^04:55
vit_hey como hago para correr un editor de php?!!04:55
sketchb0xits an old laptop04:55
elitehackerk i red the link u gave me04:55
sketchb0xsmall footprint04:55
Daisuke_Ido!es | vit_04:55
ubotuvit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:55
soulrider!es | vit_04:55
sketchb0xampache music server04:55
sketchb0xits gonna be hiding behind my entertainment center04:55
LeeJunFanintelikey: well, maybe I thought it was installed on feisty but I'm not seeing the usual configs.04:55
sketchb0x:)04:56
LeeJunFansketchb0x: what version of ubuntu you using?04:56
Yorokobisketchb0x, I'll sell you my dual PIII 700MHz 1U server :)04:56
elitehackernow how do i enable java in the main res. when a java site is not in the screen?04:56
LeeJunFanintelikey: doh, I was thinking powersaved. heheh04:56
utnubukomg04:56
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sketchb0xhow much yorokobi?04:56
sketchb0xand what are its dimensions?04:57
elitehackerk i am installing updates04:57
sketchb0xim using dapper04:57
sketchb0xbtw04:57
Daisuke_Idoi think i just peed myself04:57
Yorokobisketchb0x, 1U high, full length (not by Dell's standard)04:57
elitehackeri am using adept i went to main repos. and enabled the ones with dapper now i clicked fecth updates hopefully this will auto update java for me04:58
Daisuke_Idoelitehacker: did you read the material posted for you?04:58
LeeJunFansketchb0x: trying to remember dappers power control, I think the standard on that was powersaved, see if you have /etc/powersaved - in there you'll find the configs you need to edit for acpi events.04:58
Daisuke_Idobecause...  you're just not getting it.04:58
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elitehackerDaisuke_Ido: what materials the links then yes i did....04:59
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sketchb0xive got an /etc/acpi04:59
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utnubukmy screen saver isnt working, after a few minutes of no activity the screen displays weird colors and lines but moving the mouse fixes the problem real quick05:01
pollyo!xen05:01
ubotuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy05:01
utnubukanybody else run into a similar problem?05:01
pollyoAnyone using Xen?05:01
morticihow do i add my self to a group?05:01
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taz_utnubuk : maybe ur graphic card does not support ur screen saver05:02
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emostar_well.05:03
utnubuktaz_: i dont think thats it, if i click on 'test' the screensaver works fine05:03
emostar_i installed feisty kubuntu05:03
ffffuis there a GUI app for resizing partitions etc?05:03
emostar_and when it mounts my ntfs directories it complains that its not ntfs 3 and turns off sparse file creation05:03
emostar_!_! how can i fix that05:03
soulriderffffu: try qtparted or gparted05:03
utnubuktaz_: i even set the time to just one minute so i could make sure it works, and nothing happens when one minute is up.05:03
taz_utnubuk : can't help you :/05:04
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ffffuis it possible to resize my ext3 partition?05:04
sketchb0xLeeJunFan: how much?05:04
soulriderffffu: i think si05:04
utnubuktaz_: cool thanks for offering up some advid05:04
soulriderso*05:04
utnubukadvice*05:04
sketchb0xLeeJunFan: and how much ram?05:04
elitehackerany one have x-link kai working on linux?05:05
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elitehackerhey does anyone have X-LINK kai'd on Kubuntu?05:06
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utnubukelitehacker: no.05:07
elitehackerhave u heard of it?05:08
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=== intelikey would install gentoo again but i don't want a gui
elitehackerhow old is every one in here?05:10
elitehackerim prb the youngest one lmao05:10
Daisuke_Idothat question is completely irrelevant05:10
elitehacker14!!!05:10
peanutbsorry i win, im 1305:10
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soulriderintelikey: i tried installing gentoo, but almost died :P05:10
elitehackeryeah notice how its only a year off lol IM FROM CANADA05:11
pollyoI see they did change adept a bit now that I am looking at how to change repositories on the older version.05:11
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soulriderintelikey: right now im installing arch, theres a hard drive i need to test so i figured i would try somehting new while on it05:11
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elitehackerseee ppl flip out on me for something abouta program when the tell me directions to a program that i dont have05:11
intelikeyelitehacker 345 * 25 = 8625    so every one here is  8625 years old or there about.05:11
PersonANewbie to linux/ubuntu in general,. Looking for a lil help with an nvidia gefore 5200 video card. Installing of the updated drivers. Already downloaded. And running america's army. Already downloaded and installed.05:11
Daisuke_Idono one "flipped out on you"05:12
elitehackerintelikey: Uhhhh???? what05:12
Chemicalvamp!ati05:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:12
elitehackerwell not flipped out but like gave up and i got frusturated05:12
Daisuke_Idoyou can't follow simple directions.  enable universe.  install java.05:12
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intelikeysoulrider sounds like a plan man.05:12
elitehackeryeah but they wont give me rite links or eplain stuff that works on my PC and OS not theres05:13
PersonAty for the help url.. reading05:13
taz_I'm only 10100 years old05:13
pollyoelitehacker: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:13
pollyoCan't get more specific then that.05:13
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soulriderintelikey: youre gonna try arch out ?05:13
soulriderthe base CD doesnt even come with xorg05:13
elitehackeri have it now that i followed myy instructions05:13
soulriderperfect for you :P05:13
intelikeysoulrider no.  dial up.   not likely that i'll be "trying anything out"    :)05:14
soulriderim 10010 years old05:14
elitehackerwow i gotta go to bed i have school in the morning05:14
soulriderintelikey: youre on dial-up?! really?! isnt it really expensive?05:14
PersonAI must say.. I love Ubuntu over windoze already !05:14
soulriderPersonA: damn right!05:14
taz_Arf we can manage repo in adept.... always edit sources.list with kate -_-05:15
pollyoPersonA: I enjoy it though there are some difficulties that I am encountering.05:15
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PersonAI'm quite sure you will overcome those issues however pollyo !05:15
pollyoPersonA: I doubt it (at least in the near future)05:16
PersonAI am in learning phase now.05:16
PersonAAh05:16
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pollyoPersonA: Somethings that Linux just doesn't have support for as of yet.05:16
Daisuke_Idopollyo: what difficulties?05:16
soulriderPersonA: yeah, but youll get used in no time05:16
PersonANo doubt05:16
pollyoPersonA: :Thought overall I am VERY pleased with Linux.05:16
PersonASame here pollypo05:16
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soulrider<3 Linux05:17
PersonATons more stable for me. And easier to install05:17
Daisuke_Idothere's nothing i can do in windows (that i would normally do anyway) than i can't do in linux05:17
soulrideryeah!05:17
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soulriderwhen i isnatll linux05:17
PersonAAs cheesy as it sounds. I mainly wanna chat and surf. And play AA05:17
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: The main problem being lack of support for a Lexmark X6170.  Lexmark makes Linux Driver Development Kit but no one appears to make use of it.05:17
soulrideri dont need to install 30 additional programs just to do basic stuff05:17
Daisuke_Idoooh05:17
soulrideri dont have to worry about spy/malware, viruses an stuff like that05:17
Daisuke_Idoyeah, lexmarks aren't the nicest printers in linux05:17
soulriderits stable, secure, doesnt get slow with time05:17
PersonAYeah soulrider... that's my main reason i liked ubuntu05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Go out and pick up a printer that you want to use for windows, a video card, an IPOD, without checking compatibility lists and you will run into trouble.05:18
soulriderits just easy!05:18
Daisuke_Idobut to be perfectly honest, you're better off buying an HP or something.  the ink tends to be cheaper, and better upport :)05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Will not run into trouble.05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Though on linux you have to check lists.05:18
Daisuke_Idoi didn't check any on this one05:18
crazy_busI'm trying to install something with checkinstall but I get this error "dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `/var/tmp/iAAJPAGPrXfmDSqfPQJAS/package/DEBIAN/control' near line 8 package `trunk':newline in field name `1.5'"05:18
soulrideractually, i can say my hardware works better in Linux than in windows05:18
Daisuke_Idoi just got *really* lucky05:18
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soulriderand its the truth, im not exagerating05:18
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Don't get me wrong.  I think Linux is amazing,05:18
soulriderelitehacker os finaly gone!05:19
Daisuke_Idolike my wireless.  i just happened to have replaced a broadcom with an rt2500 about 3 weeks before going to linux05:19
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: I hear people say that but I noticed they have driver kits.  I never see people reference how difficult the development kit is.,,, Only that they do not have great support.05:19
Daisuke_Idosoulrider: thank god.05:19
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soulrideryeah05:20
soulriderhe should be spanked05:20
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: . o 0 The room cheers...05:20
hitmanWillyyeah05:20
taz_Is someone get a Broadcom wlan car and using aircrack?05:20
Daisuke_Idomay i speak very frankly and not at all flatteringly05:20
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: When Linux finally gets mass driver support it will be great!05:21
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Well amazing... It is great now.05:21
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soulridermy audio works a lot better in linux without drivers than it does in windows with drivers that only work for SP205:21
soulriderand my webcam rarely works in windows, it works out of the box in linux05:21
pollyosoulrider: I have a HP 712c that prints better in windows.  The linux drivers just aren't that great for this printer.05:22
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Daisuke_Idoi love the fact that more and more people are migrating to linux to get away from windows.  but i had a hard enough time explaining how to use the start menu to these people in windows, explaining the repositories and such is a nightmare and makes lesser men cry05:22
ricgood night05:22
soulriderlol Daisuke_Ido05:22
taz_lol05:22
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: <grin>05:23
ricbuenas05:23
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Daisuke_Idofeisty is a step in the right direction with having universe enabled by default05:23
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: Repositories are much easier then when I looked at Linux 10 years ago...05:23
Daisuke_Idopollyo: oh god yes, but still not ready for the influx of technologically paralyzed "05:24
Daisuke_Idotypical windows users05:24
Daisuke_Idomeh, dumb enter key05:24
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: It has come a long way and needs a good amount more done.  Great work so far though.05:24
Daisuke_Idoas i see it now, linux serves two groups extremely well05:24
Daisuke_Ido1) the tech savvy, that goes without saying.05:25
taz_savvy?05:25
Daskreechsaviie?05:25
pollyotaz_: It is a tech term. <grin>05:25
VR_savvy is right05:26
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DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: repos aren't that hard once you understand open source05:26
Daisuke_Ido2) the completely clueless.  those that see a computer as the web and email (say, grandma.)05:26
Daskreechsince most people understand support05:26
taz_Ok. I'm here to : 1) find some help 2) practice my english ^^05:26
Daskreechtaz_: i can help with one05:26
Daskreechunless it's pyshlogical help05:26
Daskreech i need that too05:26
taz_lol05:27
Daisuke_Idothose in the middle -- the windows "knowledgeable" -- can figure out just enough in linux to be dangerous and likely hose their entire system.05:27
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pollyoI wouldn't know without my spell checker.  BTW that is one thing I LOVE about Kubuntu... Just about everywhere I type in KDE it is spellchecking for me.05:27
Daskreechpollyo: you are going to freak over sonnet05:27
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pollyoDaisuke_Ido: I'm n the dangerous realm... <grin>05:28
pollyoDaskreech: Sonnet?05:28
Daisuke_Idopollyo: but you're not.  you ask for help *before* doing something stupid :P05:28
pollyoDaskreech: Thanks... I'm not sure if that is Luck or some type of skill on my part.05:29
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Daskreechhttp://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/01/193523805:29
DaskreechLinux.com | KDE 4's Sonnet will turbocharge language processing for pollya05:29
pollyoDaisuke_Ido: What gets me is something like Yahoo messenger.  Yahoo started out developing a messenger that works for Linux then they drop the ball with future versions.05:30
pollyoDaskreech: Will it check my grammar?05:30
pollyoDaskreech: I need auto correction on that sometime.05:30
Daisuke_Idoi can see how it would go either way.  90% of users are on windows, and it's free05:31
pollyoDaskreech: Checking it now.05:31
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Daisuke_Idowriting it to be portable would be the smart thing, but nooooo05:31
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pollyoWow... Sonnet ...05:32
pollyoWhen will that be out?05:33
taz_question : would x-chat work with KDE?05:33
hitmanWillytaz_: using it in KDE right now05:33
Daisuke_Idointelikey: yahoo messenger's new versions are FOSS?05:33
Daskreechintelikey: yahoo messenger is foss?05:34
taz_hitmanWilly: thanks. :)05:34
intelikeytaz_ the question is not will "blah" work on my desktop environment,  the question is will it work on this system  yes it will05:34
taz_I read somewhere xchat need GTK+ lib05:34
Daisuke_Idotaz_: yes but that doesn't mean you can't use it in kde05:35
Daskreechpollyo: kde405:35
vit_soulrider solo una pregunta y no mas.... como hago para instalar el netbean ya lo tengo descargado ahora debo ejecutarlo pero no se como... solo esa pregunta no mas...05:35
taz_and I don't know if gnome lib and KDE env. can works together  (I'm not sure i'm clear)05:35
Daskreech1es | vit_05:35
Daisuke_Ido!es | vit_05:35
ubotuvit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:35
Daskreech!es | vit_05:35
intelikeyDaskreech and Daisuke_Ido i wasn't talking about some new "yahoo messenger"   just the idea in particular.   made for GNU/linux implies  FOSS  does it not ?05:35
Daskreechdamn I technically won05:35
Daisuke_Idointelikey: nvidia's drivers say no05:35
Daskreechintelikey: since when?05:35
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irahanhi05:36
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jhutchinsYou must first understand the motivations for writing non-free, non-open software, and why this is the default for the industry.05:36
intelikeywell observed.    ok anything shipped with a "GNU/linux" distro would imply that then.   seeing that the gnu-gpl applies to "most if not all" distro's05:37
jhutchinsYou must accept that this is the normal model for ripping off the common shill who thinks he can get something for nothing.05:37
Daskreechintelikey: true but I must have missed when he said it shipped with a distro05:37
intelikeythat's why ubuntu didn't ship with mp3 support05:37
Daisuke_Idognu doesn't apply to a distro05:37
Daskreechtechnically05:37
jhutchinsYou must allow those who are the best at this to continue in their trade.05:37
Daisuke_Idonor does the gpl05:37
Daskreechgnewsense05:38
intelikeyDaskreech i said you were right.  and ammended my rattle05:38
jhutchinsMeanwhile, we may offer a powerfull suite of software for those who are willing to learn to control it, free and open, better than the rest.05:38
DaskreechFOSS always wins in the end05:38
Daskreechwell ... mostly05:38
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DaskreechIt does lose in some areas05:39
Daisuke_Idothe gpl can apply to software included with a distro, of course, but there are a lot of other licenses in wide use too (BSD-style, CC)05:39
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intelikeyDaskreech yeah  the  money game.05:39
jhutchinsfoss is power. Windows is the least common denominator.05:39
jhutchinsWe don't want that.05:39
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Daskreechyea i was trying to explain that to chalmer05:39
jhutchinsWe want the people who think about what they do.05:39
Daskreechor at least understand the non thinking05:39
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jhutchinsWe want linux to be the thinking user's OS.05:40
jhutchinsWe want SOMETHING ELSE to be the idiot's OS.05:40
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intelikeyjhutchins not in ubuntu05:40
jhutchinsSomething else = Windows.05:40
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jhutchinsintelikey: That is a potential problem.05:40
jhutchinsintelikey: Some developers are misguided.05:41
intelikeyjhutchins i agree with the permice but that's debian philosophy  not ubuntu's05:41
jhutchinsGNOME.05:41
Daskreechshut your mouth!05:41
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jhutchinsI want full control of my system.  Linux gives me that.05:42
lovlosswhat should i apt-get for the libraries for QT and freeglut?05:42
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jhutchins!find freeglut05:42
ubotuFound: freeglut3, freeglut3-dbg, freeglut3-dev05:42
fuel!qt05:42
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications05:42
Jucatolovloss: libqt3-mt-dev and freeglut3-dev05:42
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jhutchins!freeglut05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about freeglut - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
Jucato(presuming you need Qt 3)05:42
lovlosswell ill be!!! thank you05:42
jhutchins!botsnack05:43
ubotuYum!05:43
kalorinok so what is it exactly about the ATI drivers that are such a complete pain in the ass?05:43
Daisuke_Idowell, it's bedtime05:43
kalorinI mean, I'm just trying to do two monitors off the two outputs and make them 1 desktop05:43
jhutchinskalorin: Ah. Erhmn.05:43
kalorinthis should be cake05:43
Daisuke_Idokalorin: they're poorly written and a blight on the face of software development, especially compared to nvidia's offerings05:43
lovlossjust get envy and let it do it for you05:43
kalorinenvy/05:43
lovlossqt3 is good enough. qt4 is still not open source05:44
tarelerulzmadia player that see inside rar so you could see movie broken up to mulitple rars?05:44
Daisuke_Idouh05:44
lovlosskalorin: envy automatically sets up your drivers05:44
Daskreech!botsmack05:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:44
jhutchinskalorin: Well. the thing is, they can't afford to target all 257+ flavors of linus.05:44
Daisuke_Idoqt4 is gpl on all platforms05:44
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BartSimpsonI am getting a bigger hard drive. Currently, I am dual booting kubuntu and windows, with windows on /dev/hda and linux on /dev/hdb. Now, since the hard drive will be bigger, i want to merge my 2 current hard drives on to the bigger one. So the / on linux will become /dev/hda2 instead of hdb1. Where will this create issues that i need to fix? ie which files do i need to change? And my...05:44
BartSimpson.../etc/fstab has a UUID=something for /, will this be affected? I don't know if this is a kubuntu, ubuntu, or linux question, so if I am in the wrong channel can someone point me to the right place?05:44
kalorinjhutchins: I did everything including building the Ubuntu/edgy package and doing all the install stuff05:44
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kalorincompiled fine installed fine05:44
lovlossi think only the not-recent versions are closed source05:44
intelikeykalorin they are writen by M$ ?     no not really  but the same school of thought   "protect our propritary interests"05:44
kalorinI can even do DRI now05:44
lovlossi could be wrong, though. qt3 is fine then05:44
kalorinI see two monitors05:44
DaskreechBartSimpson: lvm?05:45
kalorinI just can't get the 2nd to light up, even in clone mode05:45
wolferineBartSimpson, one part at a time...05:45
kalorinwell it does light up until it gets past the splash screen05:45
Daisuke_Idoqt3 and earlier are closed source on non-*nix platforms05:45
kalorinthen it goes into power savings mode05:45
jhutchinskalorin: Ok, hang in there, maybe about 10 hrs from now...05:45
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Daisuke_Idoqt4 is open all around, meaning easy porting of qt4 apps to windows.  oh joy.05:45
Daisuke_Idonight!05:45
BartSimpsonI what will I need to change to allow for the new drive? I know fstab is one place05:45
lovlossOh. thank you05:45
Daskreechnight05:45
kalorinhe05:45
kalorineh05:45
lovlosswell i guess ill probably need to use four :P05:46
kalorinseems like it's almost displaying both screens out the same output?05:46
lovlossthough id love to be able to pretend windows doesnt exist05:46
wolferineBartSimpson, first, you will lose some data, unless your careful05:46
tarelerulzIf you all want free software to really take off . Get it to as many people as you cand and that my be windows user as well05:46
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wolferineBartSimpson, second, if you add a new drive, you need it in fstab, u will need to mount it05:47
intelikeylovloss windows ?    what windows ?     i don't see any windows here mate.05:47
Daskreechlovloss: It's not that hard once you forget about games05:47
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pollyoI think they need a call your hardware manufacturer day for linux.05:47
lovlossDarkskreech : thats the problem. im hoping to be a game programmer05:47
lovlossand im an addict myself05:47
Daskreechlovloss: join #ps3dev :-)05:48
taz_PS3? yerk05:48
lovlossplaystation 3?05:48
tarelerulzHave you all heard much about the ps3 and linux?05:48
wolferinehow can I check .sfv files?05:48
intelikeylovloss FOSS game programing doesn't pay much.   but it sure would draw the kids to the os.05:48
lovlossim listening05:48
Daskreechtarelerulz: IT works05:48
pollyotarelerulz: Only that Sony locks out much of the hardware functions.05:48
Daskreechwell not much05:48
Daskreechthe video card05:48
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lovlossintelikey: i like game design, its what i enjoy doing05:49
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tarelerulzI read about that myself lame ? sony should go all the way or not at all05:49
DaskreechI'm of the opinion that it's legal :-(05:49
BartSimpsonwolferine: I'm thinking about just adding the new drive in, using qtparted to partition it properly, use a disk cloning program to copy all the partitions, and finally edit the fstab to work appropriatly. then remove the other 2 drives. Is this feasible?05:49
kalorinsony is the m$ of A/V stuff05:49
kalorinhate sony05:49
Daskreechi've spoken to a bunch of PS3 developers and they are confused over it as well05:49
pollyotarelerulz: They make money on selling the machines to people who want to play games.  They only get licensing fees back from developers when people are buying games.05:49
wolferineyou have two other drives?05:49
lovlosssony's complicated. It has so many divisions its ridiculous05:49
Daskreechyeah but at least they let you install linux on their stuff05:49
wolferineor partitions?05:49
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DaskreechThey even have a button for it :-)05:50
soulrideri wanna get a Wii05:50
intelikeyBartSimpson why trubble with making partitions if you are cloning the disk ?05:50
tarelerulzUnless they do something big I don't see the ps3 really doing as well as it should05:50
intelikeyBartSimpson man dd05:50
kkerwinI've noticed that the python-dev package doesn't contain the header files that the description claims to: on both dpkg -L python-dev and in the files listed for the package on the Ubuntu package website, all that are listed are just the python documentation files. Anyone know where I can find python header files?05:50
pollyosoulrider: I tried out the wii just the other day.  It was a neat system.05:50
tarelerulzIf I was them I would take all the help I could05:50
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soulriderpollyo: my friend has one and its so awesome, tons of fun!05:50
pollyotarelerulz: Sony is getting bad press allover.05:51
soulrideri only enjoyed a few PS games05:51
soulridermost of them suck05:51
lovlossI hate them more for their influence on the music industry than anything05:51
tarelerulzI thought it was great to have game system that would run linux easy and no real hacking to do so05:51
soulrideryeah05:51
tarelerulzand playing games too05:51
wolferinehow can I check .sfv files?05:51
pollyotarelerulz: Can its memory be expanded?05:51
BartSimpsonwolferine: I have windows on one drive, linux on the second. I want to get a new, bigger one and merge both on to the one.05:52
lovlossi was really upset when firewall was bought by Sony, and suddenly my favorite bands were owned by the giant05:52
wolferinedrives or partitions?05:52
BartSimpsonintelikey: problem is, I can only use 2 drives at once, so if i wanted to clone both disks into one, how would i do that with dd?05:52
tarelerulzI don't know the specs . It may not need more05:52
DaskreechBartSimpson: that's not that hard05:53
Daskreechit's not that bad05:53
Daskreechlovloss: what kind of games are you trying to make?05:53
BartSimpsonwolferine: I have 2 drives. One has windows, 1 partition. The other has linux, partition1=/, 2="extended", 3=/home, 4=a second ntfs thing for windows, and 5=swap05:53
soulriderdamn, the arch linux repos are so slow!05:53
Daskreechlovloss: or maybe #gametome05:53
DaskreechBartSimpson: what are you going to use the old drives for?05:54
wolferineanswering partition or drive is sufficient05:54
intelikeyBartSimpson  yeah you'd need to make partitions to dd to05:54
lovlossDaskreech: We'll see. Mostly the RPG and Adventuring sort. I do not like working with games that have a worthless story05:54
lovlossDaskreech: I wasnt an english major for 4 years for nothing :P05:55
Daskreechsoooo tetris?05:55
intelikeyBartSimpson you were saying clone the disk  i was thinking you meant clone the disk   my bad.    should have known you meant clone the partitions.05:55
tarelerulzI have heard of some rpg that are open souce05:55
soulriderlovloss: what do you think about the story in metal gear games ?05:55
lovlosslol tetris rules though05:55
taz_raaaahhh Eclipse does'nt work....05:55
soulridertetris is the best game ever05:55
Daskreechlovloss: oh sweet :) I was thinking of a rpg story versioning system two months ago05:55
Daskreech#freedroid-rg05:55
lovlosssoulrider: i only played the first one and i really liked it05:55
BartSimpsonDaskreech: i'm going to put them in another computer or whatever. Since one (windows) is 37 gb, and the other (linux) is 110, I want to move both of them onto one huge one and forget about the others.05:55
Daskreech#freedroidrpg05:55
lovlossDaskreech: thats cool :)05:55
DaskreechBartSimpson: you can dd them05:55
BartSimpsonintelikey: I want to basically clone 2 disks onto one, and still keep the partitions intact05:56
lovlossI was big in the RP servers of Neverwinter Nights for something like 2 years05:56
soulriderintelikey: i havnt had xorg for the last 2 hours and i realise that my computer is still usable! :P05:56
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soulriderintelikey: its a waste to have this computer and not use a WM though05:56
intelikeyBartSimpson can't do that really.   to clone a disk means to make an exact copy.  i.e. same mbr, same partition table, same data,      so that's not what you want.05:57
BartSimpsonDaskreech: but the problem is, that i need to do it one at a time. my computer only has 2 connectors for an hd, so i will need to first clone one, then clone the other onto another partition of the one i just cloned that one.05:57
soulriderintelikey: how long does it take you to compile your kernel05:57
BartSimpsonyeah i might be using the word clone wrong sorry05:57
BartSimpsonintelikey: is "copy" more appropriate?05:57
flaccidintelikey: yeah that article was right. take it out of fstab and its cool. i'll look it at another time in terms of where the fault it05:57
flaccidis05:57
DaskreechBartSimpson: you'd have to cut up the new drive first05:58
intelikeysoulrider i haven't built a kernel in several months.   and i normally let the thing make while i sleep.05:58
Daskreechwhat's wrong with reinstalling?05:58
soulrideri see intelikey05:58
lovlossI love reinstalling linux05:58
soulriderlol, it is kinda fun, isnt it ?05:58
lovlossa fresh new operating system is always better than an old one. Things just pile up05:58
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lovlossand yeah its fun05:58
DaskreechI'm going to reinstall after KDE4.1 comes out05:58
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jay:D05:58
soulrideri like it when i do a more advanced installation than before, and i can actually understand what the stuff means05:58
intelikeyflaccid hmm   ok.    i have a few thoughts on that but nothing worth sharing yet.05:58
jay!help05:59
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots05:59
DaskreechI was going to do KDE4.0 but I figure I'll still neeed qt3 stuff05:59
flaccidintelikey: ok cool yh005:59
hawk_intelikey:hello my good budy05:59
lovlossi wish i could browse my brain05:59
flaccidi mean y005:59
BartSimpsonI heard you can only have 5 partitions on one disk, but i would need 6 to merge these disks. is it possible to use > 5?05:59
hawk_lovloss:dont we all05:59
intelikeyhawk_ what do you want ?05:59
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hawk_intelikey:just saying hello05:59
soulrideruhm, i havnt seen hawkwind in a while, does he ever come on ?06:00
intelikeyanything that starts with  friend,buddy,or pal.  triggers the "what do you want" attatude    :)06:00
hawk_intelikey: i would think so06:00
jayi want that bot06:00
intelikeyhawk_ but   ok.   how !06:00
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intelikeyor shalom06:01
intelikeyheck i can even say howdy.06:01
hawk_intelikey:lol06:01
martalliI am trying to run an install program, but it claims I am not running a JVM.  As far as I know, this install of kubuntu has both sun jre 5 and 6.06:01
intelikeythe first two by birth the last by local06:01
martalliI can see them both in the menus06:01
lovlossInstallation goes quick if you save all your apt-get names. YOu can just put in a big pasted paragraph of them and go make a sandwhich06:01
martalliIs there a way to check that>06:01
jaymartalli: you have to set your paths for it06:02
jaytype in a shell $path06:02
jayand see ion you jre is there06:02
martalliok06:02
intelikeyjay  $path ?06:02
jayyes06:02
intelikey?06:02
Dragon_LegionLaughing Out Loud06:02
jayi had to do that for limwire06:02
Dragon_Legiontry echo $path06:02
jaynah06:02
jayyou dont need the echo06:02
intelikeyDragon_Legion  echo $path  ?06:02
martallino $PATH06:03
intelikeylol06:03
martalliall caps06:03
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intelikeyyep06:03
jayyeah06:03
lovlosssomeone in one of my classes asked me if linux was available for i386 systems06:03
lovlosslol06:03
jayyes06:03
jayit is06:03
jayxD06:03
lovlossi thought that was a hillarious question06:03
martalliis anyone still using 386 systems?  Tell you classmate they shoudl really be usding a p4 at least06:03
DaskreechBartSimpson: you can have as many as you want I would not advise over 200 though06:03
pollyoDo that have a distribution that will run on an older system that only has 64 meg or ram?06:03
jayim using 386 >_>06:03
Dragon_Legionecho $PATH doesnt retrun an error on my system the way $PATH does06:03
lovlossa lot of people use 38606:04
jayDragon_Legion what distreo you using06:04
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lovlossthis computer im using now is i38606:04
lovlossthough my new one is 6406:04
intelikeylovloss did you answer "i don't know, i'll have to check the list of supported arch. and get back to you; because it's not possable to remember what all linux will run on. "  ?06:04
martallipath = bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory06:04
lovlossintelikey: no, i just said "yes" ^_^ i just found it odd since the 64bit stuff is what's specialty06:05
martalliAnd java appears to be /usr/bin/java06:05
intelikey"oh, but the list of things it wont run on is short enough _____ . "   :)06:05
martalliSo I guess that java is in my path06:05
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jayyou have to put is in your $path06:05
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lovloss:306:05
kalorinmkay06:05
kalorinnow i have it doing mirrored mode06:05
kalorinso that's nice06:05
jay!PATH06:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:06
jay!$PATH06:06
lovlossif i suggest anything about new technology, its that you get a SATA card and set up a raid array for your hard drive/s ^_^06:06
jayhmm06:06
Dragon_Legionmartalli: use which java06:06
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lovlossbest thing i ever did06:06
Dragon_Legionif that doesnt work use which jre06:06
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martalliWhat's the command line for jre?06:07
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intelikeylovloss i still prefer scsi  but ok yeah.06:07
jaymartalli: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch11.html < look here06:07
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intelikeymartalli i don't know but   j[tab]      might help.06:08
lovlossi g2g06:08
jayjava -version06:08
lovlosscya all06:08
martalliintelikey: Why didn't I think of that?06:08
Dragon_Legiontry gij06:08
jaymartalli: it just java ._.06:08
Dragon_Legiongij -jar really06:08
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soulriderim going to bed06:09
martalliI think "java_vm"06:09
soulridersee ya guys!06:09
Dragon_Legionmartalli: I dont have my linux connected to this system but when I put in java it told me to use gij -jar06:09
jayDragon_Legion have you used kubuntu?06:09
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jayMake sure your giving command for a debian based system06:10
tazouch, Kubuntu need a lot of RAM. Is it normal?06:10
Dragon_Legionkago....I am OVER kubuntu06:10
jayyes06:10
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Dragon_Legionessentially the same thing06:10
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intelikeytaz it doesn't "need" a lot of ram.06:10
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jaynot really..06:11
intelikeyubuntu kde will run in less than 64M06:11
martalliActually - gij -jar claims to work06:11
jayMake sure you have a swap06:11
Dragon_LegionI hardly use any RAM on my system06:11
intelikeyno swap06:11
Dragon_Legionand I have about 100 ps running06:11
tazgot 384Mb and use 357 with only Konversation06:11
pollyointelikey: ubuntu will run in less than 64M?06:11
intelikeypollyo yes06:11
intelikeyand no swap06:11
jayi know for a fact you need a linux swap partition06:12
eeanmtaz: linux always uses almost all of your memory, it caches hard disk06:12
pollyointelikey: Great.  I've been looking for something to put on my other machine.  It only has 64M.06:12
intelikeyi did not say that you had a lot of ram for apps   i said kde doesn't need that much.     mozilla-browser and an irc client an konsole  will just about max out that 64M06:13
pollyointelikey: Do you know of any other distributions that are good for older computers?06:13
jayKnoppix06:13
jayknoppix is good for thoes with no ram06:13
eeanmlol06:13
Carutsujay: mmm, i need that!06:13
jay!knoppix06:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about knoppix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:13
martallifor very little ram, I woudl suggest puppy linux.06:13
Carutsujay: good to know, bur how about packages?06:13
pollyojay: Ok. Are they still developing for knoppix and is it based on anything?06:13
jay:/06:13
pollyojay: As far as packages?06:14
jaylike what do you mean06:14
intelikeypollyo slackware   still has all it's releases avalable.   you can put a slackware system in 16M ram 100M hd .06:14
jaylike what it has >_>06:14
jayintelikey: mandriva one can do the same thing06:14
jayand it has a better base06:14
Carutsujay: finding software for k/ubuntu is so easy because of the repostories, are the knopix repostories as well mantained as k/ubuntu's06:14
jaywith rpm :D06:14
pollyoI'm going to have to look around a bit.06:14
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intelikeyjay yes but not quite so easily.   he asked about a distro that was "good for older boxes"06:15
jayCarutsu: knoppix goes directly to the Debians sorces for its packages06:15
martalliHow do I set a cl variable?  how do I set $JAVA_HOME='/usr/bin' (or something liek that?06:15
intelikeypollyo dsl also.06:15
tazIs Katapult really usefull? (try to close some process)06:15
Carutsujay: that's good enough for me06:15
martalliif you "install knoppix", you get a vanilla install06:15
intelikeypollyo assuming you have a cd drive in it.06:15
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Carutsutaz i just love it!06:16
pollyoThanks for all the sugestions.06:16
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pollyoI do have CD on the machine.06:16
jayy/w06:16
martallifor older computers: puppy linux, dsl, austrumi06:16
jaylol06:16
jayslax does it too06:16
jayand feather06:16
philphotoquestion06:16
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jayyes?06:16
pollyoCan tooo many options be a bad thing? <grin>06:16
jayxD06:16
martalliHow do I set a cl variable?  how do I set $JAVA_HOME='/usr/bin' (or something like that?06:17
intelikeypollyo sure.   the question is how many are too many06:17
pollyointelikey: True.06:17
jaymartalli : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch11.html<tell you how06:17
martallignome sure thinks so (as in, you can't change any options witht he gnoe-screensaver)06:17
philphotois it possible and/or something reasonable to do to to load up feisty on my PATA 40GB drive then creade a RAID array with two 80GB drives purely for starage?06:17
jay!java06:17
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:17
intelikeymartalli in your  ~/.profile   i would think would be a good place06:17
jay!rais06:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rais - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:18
jay!raid06:18
ubotuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO06:18
jaythere ya go06:18
intelikeymartalli or the system wide   /etc/profile06:18
philphotoI don't want to make it bootable RAID06:18
philphotothanks, I'll be right back06:18
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pollyoIs it possible to have a volume control for each application?06:18
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intelikeywithout hacking things... i'd have to say no.06:19
jay=D06:19
pollyoI always wondered why they didn't have that option.06:19
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jay!ubuntustudio06:19
ubotuubuntustudio is a site is for the musician who wishes to use Ubuntu as their Digital Audio Workstation, at  http://www.ubuntustudio.com. Or visit  #ubuntu-studio06:19
intelikeyit should be possable to modulate the output pre-arts  but i've never seen it done.06:20
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kaloringrrrrrrrr06:22
utnubukjay is there a beta available to play with?06:22
kalorinI can get two screens that mirror each other06:22
philphotook, so I read the ubotu's RAID page as for boot disks but I only want to have a mountable storage volume.06:22
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intelikeypollyo one reason is that it would require a secnodary sound filter for every app     sound would flow through the volume filter then into the arts server (filter) to get to the hardware....  the more you process it the slower it gets06:22
utnubukfor ubuntu studio i mean06:22
kalorinand I can get two screens that are two completely seperate desktops06:22
philphotoand I want to play.  to learn what I can do06:22
kalorinI can't get two screens that are one desktop06:22
kalorinOMG06:23
pollyointelikey: I see.06:23
kalorinit worked06:23
kalorinnow I'm afraid to reboot06:23
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jaymartalli do you still need help06:23
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DaskreechDragon_Legion: how is it?06:23
Dragon_LegionDaskreech: what?06:24
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Re|ent|ess* services. sets mode: +e <lol06:24
Daskreechpollyo: deli and vector06:24
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philphotook.  I think I'm going over to Feisty.  looks like a lot of my slow comp issues might be taken care of.06:25
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pollyoDaskreech:  deli and vector?06:26
philphotoare there any more fixes for the ATI GC in feisty?06:26
Daskreechpollyo: light distros06:27
Daskreechdeli more so than vector06:27
pollyoDaskreech: Thank you.06:27
Daskreech it is very minimial though i thik they just upgraded to linux kernel 2.206:27
intelikeypollyo it's a little like doing    printf "`echo blah | cat`\n"     to get blah to the stdout.   it will get there but so will   echo blah    and it doesn't have to go through two other processes to get there so it is faster.   even though you may not be able to measure it.    if the streem was big enough you could.06:27
pollyointelikey: Looking at the website now.06:27
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peanutbcan anyone point me to a good guide for doing a low level format on a toshiba hard drive? possibly with ubuntu?06:31
peanutbor kubuntu06:32
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Daskreechpeanutb: check the toshiba site they will most likely have an ISO for the tools that will do it for you06:32
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Daskreechpretty dangerous at this point in time to do low level formats by yourself06:33
peanutbthe drive has bad sectors. Toshiba dosnt provide any utilities06:33
Daskreechwait is this a laptop?06:34
peanutbthe hd is from a laptop06:34
peanutbbut in a regular pc right now.06:34
intelikeypeanutb you can try   sudo cat /dev/zero > /dev/hda  (assuming hda)   then partition/format06:35
intelikeypeanutb that's about as close as you get without a real bios call.   some bios's have a low level format opetion.06:35
intelikeyoption06:36
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peanutbintelikey, ok thanks, i doubt my bios has that option (it is a cheap ECS motherboard)06:36
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intelikeyop shun06:37
Daskreechpeanutb: and toshiba makes the had drive?06:37
Daskreechintelikey: evvery day06:37
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intelikeylol06:38
peanutbDaskreech, i pulled it out of a laptop.06:38
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Daskreechyea yes I understand that. But I doubt that toshiba made the drive itself06:38
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DaskreechWoah deja vu06:39
intelikeyseagate wd maxtor ....06:39
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BartSimpsonBack to my previous partition problem, I have one last question: My fstab has / mounted as UUID=something_that_looks_like_a_md5. will I need to change this "UUID" when i move my thing to a different partion on the new hard drive?06:39
peanutbit was from a tosiba computer with toshiba written all over it.06:39
maymemooi cant join #ubuntu-offtopic06:39
maymemoo>=|06:39
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peanutbmaymemoo, register your nick06:40
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Daskreechmaymemoo: boo-hoo :) join #kubuntu-offtopic :-)06:40
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Re|ent|essi forgot -RN is on06:41
Re|ent|ess:x06:41
Re|ent|essthis server is bad with modes06:41
Agent_bobyou don't have to regester to join #ubuntu-offtopic06:41
Re|ent|essim banned06:42
Re|ent|ess:D06:42
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Re|ent|esssome op on a power trip did it06:42
Re|ent|ess:p06:42
Agent_bobRe|ent|ess should i tell them you are in here now so they can do the same ?  :)06:43
Re|ent|esslol06:43
Jucatothere's #kubuntu-offtopic too06:43
Jucatow/c reminds me...06:43
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Agent_bobyeah you can get banned from there too06:43
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JucatoRe|ent|ess: #ubuntu-ops for operator questions (bans, etc)06:44
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Carutsu!inkscape06:45
ubotuInkscape is a powerful vector graphics drawing application - see http://www.inkscape.org/ for more06:45
Daskreechit has a k in the name. it must be good106:46
pollyo!busybox06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about busybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
JucatoDaskreech: non sequitur... you have a K in your name as well :P06:46
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DaskreechWell .... I'm good06:46
Jucatonon verum est06:47
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Daskreech:-06:50
Daskreech)06:50
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vbgunzI have an issue with Firefox on Kubuntu. I click on a mailto link and my Thunderbird setup does not try to open a window at all. If I launch a link from Thunderbird, it opens that link in Konqueror... but Firefox is my default browser... whats going on? anyone know?06:51
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Daskreechthunderbid isn't a kde app I don't think it respects the KDE default app choice06:53
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vbgunzthis blows, I swear I would switch to KDE apps Konqueror and Kmail *but* no web developer and other useful extensions for Konqueror and well, Thunderbird I am seriously considering doing without...06:54
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philphotohas there been any change (positive) in how ATI graphics cards act with Feisty?06:55
philphotoor do I have to go through the rigamarole again?06:56
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Daskreechrigmarole?06:56
CarutsuDaskreech but as far as i know Thunderbird does a system call calling for a browser the system then loads the browser06:56
DaskreechCarutsu: if you say so06:56
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philphotoordeal, however slight, of reconfiguring xorg.conf to better apply my GC for speed06:57
CarutsuDaskreech: tell me if im wrong but that's what i though06:57
philphotoI swear I'm just going to get another vendor's GC.06:57
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Daskreechphilphoto: Oh that's what was making things run so slow?06:58
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philphotoon that note, should I be able to switch graphics cards when I get my new one in & not have to do a complete new install?06:58
philphotoyeah, that's why it was slow.06:58
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philphotodaskreech: today I tried to do a dual-boot with winXP so I could run my Epson scanner, but in the process things went bad.06:59
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Daskreechoh?07:00
Daskreechhow so?07:00
philphotonot a problem, I have everything saved on my external hd.  and the feisty install took way less time than the upgrade07:00
Daskreechphilphoto: tell me about it.07:00
posingaspopularDaskreech, migration manager is amazing.07:00
Jucatovbgunz: "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser" to set your default browser across the whole system07:00
Daskreechposingaspopular: still slow :-)07:00
posingaspopularhmmm07:01
posingaspopularstrange07:01
philphotosomething happened with one of the partitions on the hd that had edgy installed & i just said to heck with it.07:01
Jucatovbgunz: as for clicking mailto links in firefox to launch thunderbird, I think you'll have to use about:config there07:01
philphotoit WOULD NOT boot.07:01
philphotono matter what I tried.07:01
philphotoevery setting in BIOS wouldn't let that thing boot to save it's life.  i went & restored grub again even to see if it was an issue with that.  nope.07:02
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skarfaceJucato: kcontrol > KDE Components > Default Applications will set thunderbird as the default07:02
philphotothunderstorm outside.  I should get off this machine.07:02
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Jucatoskarface: yes, but only for KDE apps07:03
Jucatoskarface: and since firefox is not a kde app, it may not (or may) follow that07:03
vbgunzJucato: thank you very much though I think I am really going to make a gunho effort to switch to kmail07:03
skarfaceJucato: it will07:03
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skarfaceno reason to use kmail or thunderbird really07:03
vbgunzJucato: what you use?07:03
skarfacewebmail is more convenient07:04
JucatoI'm sure about the default browser part though07:04
Jucatovbgunz: konqueror and kmail07:04
philphotoso has anyone here (with an ATI graphics card)  noticed any performance advantage over edgy?07:04
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vbgunzJucato: thats what I mean, I am thinking about switching from Tbird to kmail... Konqueror not so easy for me... Firefox got some killer extensions :(07:04
Daskreechphilphoto: I'll tell you tomorrow when feisty finished installing07:05
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pollyois ubuntu-desktop the gnome desktop?07:05
philphotooh man.07:05
Jucatopollyo: no07:05
pollyoHmm....07:05
Jucatoubuntu-desktop is the metapackage that installs the default Ubuntu packages.07:05
skarfaceI really dislike konqueror... kde I like, konqueror not so much. but as far as email, gmail wins. then just add its feed to akregator to check your mail periodically.07:05
philphotoyou should free up some bandwidth on your machine & get off the IRC07:05
Jucatognome-desktop-environment is the GNOME desktop metapackage07:05
Daskreechpollyo: it will install a gnome desktop yes07:05
skarfaceirc takes about .002% of my bandwidth... it's the torrents...07:06
pollyoI went to remove compiz and it says removing ubuntu-desktop07:06
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Daskreechpollyo: that's cool07:06
skarfacepollyo: that's strange07:06
Daskreechno big loss07:06
philphotoyou know what?  I think I notice a difference right now.07:06
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philphotohas Feisty's xorg.conf been changed to run better with specific radeon GC's?  this thing is kicking @$$07:07
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skarfaceall I've noticed so far is that I don't have to add repositories for beryl07:07
pollyoWhat are considered the top video cards for linux right now.  Do they have a website that discussess videocards for use on linux?07:07
skarfaceoh and the splashes got kind of blurry and strange looking07:07
Daskreechphilphoto: well a new ati driver came out yesterday i think07:08
Daskreechthat may make a difference07:08
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philphotoreally!?07:08
kalorinanother new one yesterday?07:08
kalorinI have like 8.5.55 or something07:08
philphotothat's good.07:08
Daskreechwasn't it yesterday?07:08
Daskreechyeah that one07:08
kalorin8.35.507:08
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philphotoeither way, this machine hasn't been this fast since I installed my new CPU & 3 more GBram a month ago07:09
philphotobut I was on WInXP then, so I can't judge :)07:09
Daskreech:-)07:09
Daskreechkubuntu is normally pretty quick07:09
skarfacejust about anything would scream with more than 3gb of ram07:09
philphotoI'll get my peripherals configured, scan an image in Xsane & then I'll tell you if it's working better.07:09
kalorinI so want to go E6600 w/ 2gb of ram07:10
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philphotoyeah, I wish I had an athlon6407:10
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kalorinhave a 64 3200+ single core now07:10
kalorinit's fast enough07:10
skarfaceI have yet to see any compelling reason that 64-bit is better07:10
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skarfaceunless you want to compile everything for 6407:11
pollyoI guess compiz is required for ubutun-desktop07:11
philphotothe arch is better than pentium for graphics processing like I do07:11
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pollyo!ubuntu-desktop07:12
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nicochola07:13
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.07:13
skarfaceit's just a metapackage... the only problem you'll have is that if you want to use apt-get autoremove it'll try to nuke your gnome07:13
skarfaceand apparently it might screw up updates :)07:13
pollyoAt the same time does it also slow my computer down?07:14
skarfaceno07:14
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skarfacenot if you're not running beryl07:14
koflerI'm trying to do static IP configuration. The machine is currently DHCP'd and I am remotely SSH'd from home to the network. If I /etc/init.d/networking restart, will I lose all connectivity positively?07:14
skarfaceit just takes a little hd space07:14
Daskreechskarface: yeah it assumes you have the basic meta package and the desktop meta package07:14
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pollyoskarface: compiz itself isn't going to slow it down without beryl?07:14
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philphotogoodness, this has a lot of updates.  bah07:14
skarfacepollyo: uh did you install compiz?07:15
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koflerAnyone?07:15
pollyoskarface: I believe at one point I did.  I was attempting to remove it and it removed ubuntu-desktop at the same time.07:15
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kalorinwhat's the real advantage of this beryl deal anyway?07:15
intelikeykofler ?07:15
Daskreechphilphoto: honestly if you don't like updating then please close your eyes07:15
kalorinjust to have pretty 3d objects to map your desktop onto?07:15
pollyoskarface: When I went to put ubuntu-desktop back it reinstalled compiz.07:15
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Daskreechkalorin: envy07:15
philphotoI'm thinking of just going to bed.07:15
kalorinenvy?07:16
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skarfacepollyo: weird. compiz has never been part of ubuntu-desktop as far as I know07:16
pollyoskarface: I doubt my video card is fast enough to really work with compiz though.07:16
Daskreechpollyo: that's wrong07:16
philphotobut this new face to the OS is like a christmas present.07:16
Daskreechphilphoto: if you update there will be just as many when you wake up07:16
philphotoi want to get everythign configured NOW07:16
philphotoyou serious?!07:16
Daskreechphilphoto: really just leave it alone for the month :)07:16
Daskreechyep07:16
Daskreechno joke07:16
philphotodang.07:16
pollyoDid they change something on feisty?07:16
philphotowell, I'm 32% into it07:16
skarfacewell fesity includes beryl, nothing about compiz though07:17
Daskreechphilphoto: until it releases you'll have a ton of updates every day07:17
skarfaceI don't know what that's all about07:17
philphotoright, right.07:17
pollyoI have a NV TNT2 crard.07:17
Daskreechphilphoto: well let it up date then. but you don't HAVE to do everyupdate07:17
pollyoI have NV drivers running but I think compiz and beryl need newer cards.07:17
Daskreech by the time the update is done they will have more07:17
DaskreechIt's crazy07:17
skarfacepollyo: what kind of card do you have?07:17
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philphotook, I'll just shut off the adept notification deal until the 20th07:18
DaskreechI've updated a package and by the time it's downloaded and installed the same package had an update07:18
intelikeyDaskreech that's why i stick with LTS07:18
philphotoha ha ha ha ha ha!07:18
Daskreechit's addicitive if you don't have stuff to do07:18
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philphotoLTS?07:18
pollyoskarface: It is an older card in my Dell Optiplex Gx300 with a PIII07:18
Daskreechintelikey: LTS had it as well :-p07:18
skarfacephilphoto: well you could always remove compiz or whatever and then install ubuntu-desktop again. it won't really install anything but it should get rid of the annoyance.07:18
Daskreechdon't be acting like it didn't07:18
pollyoskarface: It is a NV TNT2 is all I know.07:18
intelikeydoesn't now07:18
Daskreechwell neither will feisty when it ships07:19
philphotoit's not an annoyance.07:19
pollyoskarface: That is what I did.  Then it reinstalled compiz.07:19
skarfaceuh well considering beryl/compiz will run on my lame intel cards, it should run on that07:19
intelikeyDaskreech there have been maybe 10 packages updated in a month07:19
pollyoskarface: Really?07:19
skarfacepollyo: that's a rather odd little fluke07:19
philphotonow that I have feisty, am I running beryl?07:19
skarfaceno07:19
intelikeyDaskreech and the longer it goes the less there are.   the "bugs are being worked out"07:19
philphotook.07:19
pollyoskarface: I would like to look at some of the effects in compiz.07:19
pollyoskarface: Any idea how I active them?07:20
Daskreechintelikey: you'd love delli linux :-)07:20
skarfaceyeah07:20
Daskreech2.2 kernel07:20
philphotonot that i want beryl.  just wondering what big apps are being put on the OS automatically07:20
skarfaceinstall beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes07:20
skarfacethen run beryl-manager07:20
intelikeyDaskreech na  2.4 is good07:20
pollyoskarface: I think compiz has some type of windows manager.07:20
Daskreechdebian? :-)07:20
skarfacewell beryl is a fork of compiz07:21
philphoto72% complete07:21
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skarfacepretty much the same stuff, only it seems to have more development going on07:21
pollyoMaybe I need to install compiz-kde to activate it.07:22
skarfacenah07:22
pollyocompiz-core and compiz (and a slew of others are already installed)07:22
philphotook, now that I'm up with the feisty, with no more windowz crud on my computer, I have more storage.07:22
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kalorinso feisty is going to be really different?07:23
philphotodo I just go into a partition manager to create one big ext3 partition in my spare drive?07:23
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intelikeykalorin no.07:23
skarfacephilphoto: if you like07:23
philphotobut is it just that simple?07:23
skarfaceyou'll have to add it to /etc/fstab also07:23
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kalorinintelikey think I'll still have a TON of issues with the ATI video drivers there?07:23
skarfaceif you want it to mount automatically07:23
philphotohow to do that?07:23
philphotocertainly07:23
kalorin(in feisty I mean)07:23
skarfacesudo nano /etc/fstab07:23
skarfacebrb07:24
philphotoand edit fstab with?  is it obvious?07:24
intelikeykalorin i would hope not as many.  but probably still some.  until we see some actual change in the modus operandus of ati (it was bought out by amd) then don't expect any miricales07:25
philphotoI'm meaning, I'll add the volume label to fstab, correct?07:26
Re|ent|ess!tell philphoto abot fstab07:26
Re|ent|ess!tell philphoto about fstab07:26
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Re|ent|ess!fstab07:26
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions07:26
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Re|ent|ess!partitons07:27
kalorinyeah I just wish when I did an install off the cd I didn't have to drop to a shell and install the xorg-driver-ati package and then dot he aticonfig --initial and so on07:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about partitons - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:27
DaskreechBartSimpson: how goes?07:27
kalorinin order to just get it to give me a desktop07:27
kalorinthen do it again after the install07:27
philphotothanks.07:27
kalorinand then try to upgrade the drivers to something more current and you get a few hours of banging your head against the desk07:27
kalorinjust aggrevatin07:27
BartSimpsonDaskreech: still looking for a new hard drive :)07:28
kalorinat least my new workstation at work has a quadra 5something in it, worked right out of the box07:28
kalorinthought it wouldn't see my dell 20" 1600x1200 FP until I redid the monitor profile07:28
kalorinthat was silly07:28
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!07:29
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MilhousePunkRockWhat is responsible for the cpu speed bar in the tooltip of the power manager?07:30
Daskreechksysguard07:31
Daskreechoh wait :)07:31
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Daskreechread that rong07:31
Daskreechwrong07:31
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: Well, let's just take the emptiness of that bar as an indicator that speedstepping is not working here anymore...07:32
pollyoI installed beryl.  Do I have to reboot or restart to use it?07:32
Daskreechpollyo: just x07:32
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kalorinI liked the one that was in xbuntu better than that ksysguard deal07:33
pollyoDaskreech: Cant I type CTRL-something-something to do that or should I log out and relogin to restart x?07:33
kalorin3 verticle bars, cpu, memory, and disk/io/ethernet/whatever07:33
Daskreechpollyo: have anythign to save?07:33
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Ctrl-Alt-Backspace07:33
philphotowhat is the partition editor built into feisty?  I can't find one.07:33
pollyoDaskreech: I'm writing an ISO file to CD but after that I do not have anything to save.07:34
Daskreechqtparted07:34
Daskreechpollyo: when that's done just ctrl+alt+bkspc07:34
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: So you should wait until that's done07:34
pollyoOk.  Thanks.07:34
philphotogotcha.  its just not in the app menu07:34
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Jucatophilphoto: it's only installed by default on the Desktop CD07:35
philphotoaha!07:35
philphotoso now i can choose?07:35
JucatoGParted, QtParted or command line? sure07:36
philphotoI like gparted.  is there any benefit of one over the other?07:36
Daskreech!partition07:36
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter07:36
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pollyoOk.07:37
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: good idea07:37
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Got your eye candy now?07:37
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: No07:37
pollyoA program closed unexpectedly. "artsd" any idea what that is?07:38
MilhousePunkRockphilphoto: If you need more than four partitions, you will most likely need to go to the cli and deal with fdisk or cfdisk07:38
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: The KDE sound system07:38
pollyoHmmmm....07:38
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pollyoShould the eye candy have started automatically?07:38
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MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Did you at least see the beryl splash?07:39
MilhousePunkRockI dont really remember how much of beryl is started by default07:39
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I did not take notice of any new splash.07:39
MilhousePunkRockwhat about Alt-F2 and "beryl-manager", pollyo?07:39
pollyoWill I find any Beryl config programs in the K menu?07:39
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MilhousePunkRockpollyo: IIRC it was in the system tray07:39
Daskreechintelikey: you know that stuff rots your retinas right?07:40
intelikeybacking up at a whooping rate of  2.85 MB/s    hehhe07:40
MilhousePunkRockintelikey!07:40
pollyoSomething crashed...07:40
intelikeyDaskreech is that why i need glasses ?07:40
intelikeyMilhousePunkRock :)07:40
Daskreechno the cli is why ou need glasses07:40
MilhousePunkRockintelikey: We need glasses because we are nerds...07:40
Daskreech what resolution does that run at anyway?07:40
pollyoI do see the beryl in the taskbar now07:40
Daskreechpollyo: right click it07:40
Daskreechyou can choose your window manager07:40
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: I think you can switch the windows manager from KWin to Beryl there07:41
Daskreechsee if it has a choice of beryl07:41
MilhousePunkRockIIRC it would be called "emerald"07:41
DaskreechJucato: does kubuntu have the one touch desktop effects as well?07:41
pollyoI have four choices for windows manager07:41
JucatoDaskreech: nope07:41
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: One touch desktop?07:41
DaskreechJucato: was it planned to?07:41
pollyoBeryl, Compiz, Metacity, Kwin...07:42
philphotoI really want to create a separate profile here and make it identical to Vista.  I can be the first cool person on my block to have a WORKING version when they come over.  muahahaha07:42
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: there's a menu in Ubuntu to enable Compiz07:42
intelikeyDaskreech resolution ?    anything from  50 columns by 12 lines    to  180 columns by 70 lines   on this box.07:42
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JucatoDaskreech: not sure. probably not07:42
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: That's overload for sure07:42
Daskreechintelikey: how do you change that?07:42
MilhousePunkRockBut you can pick beryl from there07:42
pollyoCan I do away with a few of those?07:42
intelikeySvgaTextMode07:42
DaskreechJucato: man I'm so going to get laughed at in the office07:42
pollyoAre they slowing my system down having those 4 options listed?07:43
Daskreechintelikey: command?07:43
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Jucatopollyo: no. because you can't have more than 1 window manager running at one time07:43
pollyoJucato: Ok.  Thank you.07:43
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Probably not, but why would you need both metacity and kwin? or compiz and beryl? make up your mind07:43
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pollyoI have two Adept Notifer in the bar at the bottom.  One is a green orb and the other is a crash symbol07:43
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: he probably has GNOME/Ubuntu installed as well07:43
intelikeyDaskreech you have to install it first.    and edit /etc/Textconfig  for your hardware  then it's     stm <size>07:43
MilhousePunkRockThe basic linux rule is still KISS, isn't it?07:43
Daskreechintelikey: neat so I cam make things too small for me to read and change it back?07:44
Jucatoand Compiz and Beryl aren't technically "duplicates"... but well...07:44
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: The "crash" symbol is a notifier that updates are available07:44
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: no that's the unix rule07:44
pollyoJucato: Yes, I have Gnome ubuntu installed as well.07:44
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Daskreechthe linux rule is penguins chhhaaarrggee111107:44
Daskreechs/1111/!!!!!/07:44
intelikeyDaskreech yes.   but i sujest you make a restore script   cause you can select modes that don't work.07:44
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: s/!!!!/oneoneeleven07:45
MilhousePunkRock;-)07:45
Daskreechintelikey: how do you run the restore script if thigns don't  work?07:45
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: Ever noticed there are no penguins in Kubuntu?07:45
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: heh hang out here more and see some of the crazy thigns I get up to07:45
DaskreechMilhousePunkRock: there are no anythings on kubuntu07:45
MilhousePunkRockGears!07:46
pollyoWhy isn't the green ball where it was before?  Now it is in the list of windows when before it was over with the sound and network connection information.07:46
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Enabled beryl by now?07:46
MilhousePunkRockIf so, that's what you get... It's still not mature...07:46
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: The gem is in the taskbar.07:46
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I haven't done anything with it yet though.07:47
Daskreechnot even gears for the past few releases07:47
MilhousePunkRockDaskreech: I used to be a regular here...07:47
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intelikeyDaskreech assuming 80x25 works for you   echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\nstm 80x25' > ~/x ;chmod 755 ~/x       and if you blank your screen just do ~/x07:47
intelikeyoh better add   -a in the stm line of that.07:47
pollyoI do not think that beryl is going to run with my current setup though.07:47
pollyoI will have to check my drivers.07:48
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: You should have done that before...07:48
Daskreechintelikey: ah I'd probably ~/bin/gdit07:48
pollyoMaybe my video card is toooo old or not powerful enough.07:48
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: What are your system specs?07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Yes.  true.07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Old. <grin>07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I am sure it is way below specs.07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: PIII, NV TNT2 ....07:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: 256 Megs Ram07:48
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intelikeyDaskreech if that's in you path.  just a way to get      stm -a 80x25   or what ever, without having to guess at what you typed.07:49
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MilhousePunkRockAlthough they say berly is not that demanding, I used to run it on my desktop (Athlon XP 2400+, 1 GB RAM, GeForce 6600 GT 128 MB) and it was just plain unuseable07:50
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Haha... Good luck...07:50
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intelikeyDaskreech the config file is long   but don't just think it will work without editing     it wont07:50
Daskreechintelikey: aight :-)07:51
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pollyoOk.. Beryl was a bad idea to jump into without looking at it first. <grin>07:52
kalorinheh07:52
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MilhousePunkRockping07:53
MilhousePunkRockping07:53
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posingaspopularMilhousePunkRock, who are you pingin?07:53
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I wanted to start with compiz...07:53
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: <Grin>07:54
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pollyoAnyone know about NV drivers?07:54
Agent_bobDaskreech can you grab that script ?07:54
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pollyoOpenGL version string: 1.5.3 NVIDIA 71.8407:55
Daskreechapparently not07:55
posingaspopular!nvidia07:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:55
pollyo  If your version is 9631 (see above) or higher then you can skip this and move on to the section entitled "Modifying your xorg.conf file".07:55
Moby_pythonhas anybody here gotten an atheros wireless card to work07:55
Agent_bobfirewall in the way i guess07:55
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pollyoI'm going to have to wait and look at this another day.07:56
pollyoIt is suggesting some serous changes.07:56
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Moby_pythonI cannot load mad wifi with the kubuntu feisty upgrade07:57
pollyoBBL07:57
Daskreechnight all!!!07:58
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Mantishello all...I just did a fresh install of kubuntu 6.06 on another partition so I could dual boot, and I gan't get the linux bootloader to show up instead of booting immediatly to windows07:58
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Agent_bob!grub07:59
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:59
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Agent_bobsee the first link ^ it's apropos07:59
Mantisthanks07:59
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Moby_pythonWell my desktop wont let me install k3b 1.0, probably will work if I install feisty.08:05
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Moby_pythonMy laptop won't let me use my wifi card because I installed feisty08:05
Agent_bobda feisty grips channel is  #ubuntu+1   :)08:07
Agent_bobgripes08:07
Agent_bobgropes ?08:07
poningru...08:07
Agent_bobgroups ?08:07
poningruAgent_bob: lets not go farther08:07
Agent_bobok.08:08
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Agent_bobah in the dark.08:09
Agent_bob:)08:09
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dwidmannMoby_python: if you really need k3b 1.0 in edgy, you could compile it yourself.08:10
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Moby_pythondwidmann I am trying, first it was qt, now I"ve got qt okay and it is complaining about my kde prefix08:11
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M4ntisokay, I tried to fix grub using the live cd terminal trick, but when I try to do find /boot/grub/stage1 it says file not found.....this happened the last time I installed08:12
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Erb_can somebody please tell me how I can register for a channel (##php)?08:14
Rictoohey08:14
Rictoowho wants to play a game of uno with a java irc bot I just made?08:14
Admiral_Chicago!register08:14
ubotuInformation about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration08:14
Rictoowho wants to play a game of uno with a java irc bot I just made?08:14
Rictoo=D08:14
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philphotook, i'm just about to get this mount command down.  now, I want to mount /dev/sdc1 in media.  would that look like mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/media  ?08:17
M4ntisIs there any manual solution to grub not installing with kubuntu?  Grub didn't load into linux because it is apparently not there08:17
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philphotoI've looked at the page & it's not straigtforward about it08:17
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philphotoM4ntis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveryAfterInstallingWindows08:21
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M4ntisyea, I tried the standard stuff, I think I need to install grub manually though08:22
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philphotooh, it didn't find it?08:22
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M4ntisyea /boot/grub/stage1 wasn't found08:22
philphotonot at all, huh?08:23
M4ntisthis hapened when I installed earlier, and I have no idea why08:23
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philphotohow many drives do you have?08:23
M4ntistwo08:23
philphotodo you know your BIOS well?08:23
M4ntissomewhat08:24
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philphotowhat is loaded on hd0?08:24
philphotoWindows?08:24
M4ntisyea08:24
philphotoany RAID devices?08:25
M4ntisnope08:25
philphotoyour grub should be in hd0.  did you recently do a clean install of everything?08:26
M4ntisI've had windows installed for a long time, I was going to try to add kubuntu, and this is where I am08:26
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philphotoI'd say just re-install if you haven't gotten anywhere with kubuntu configurations08:27
philphotoare you using feisty?08:27
chipbuddydoes anyone know of a simple calendar program for gnome? i found the evolution one, but i'd prefer something simpler08:27
M4ntiswell, this is the second install of kubuntu today :(08:27
philphotooh man.  sorry.08:27
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philphotoI'm linux n00b as well, but have learned way too much over the last week.08:28
M4ntissame problem both times. so I have no idea :-/08:28
philphotobut I hear you.08:28
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philphotohave you done a cd check of the live cd?08:28
M4ntisyep, its fine08:28
philphotowierd.08:28
M4ntiswell08:29
M4ntislooking at fdisk linux got installed on my second harddrive so that could be the problem08:29
philphotobut you should have been able to find grub08:30
philphotoand it should have been in hd0 if you did a standard install08:30
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philphotoI tried a windows install today.  it overwrote my grub.  then there was some problem that made it so I could not boot my linux drive.08:32
philphotoI did a clean sweep & then reinstall of feisty, not that I recommend that though08:32
M4ntisIf I didn't have so much data I'd do a totally clean instal, but I can afford that right now :(08:33
philphotoI have everything saved on an external drive08:33
philphotototally.08:33
M4ntishey this guide is giving me commands that are actualyl making the terminal do something, maybe I'm getting somewhere08:34
philphotowhich one?08:34
Chemicalvampshould i close everything while im upgrading from edgy to fiesty fawn?08:34
M4ntisusing the live CD to overwrite the windows bootloader heh08:35
philphotoyou want a dual bootable system though, correct?08:35
M4ntisyea, I don't think this will work :(08:36
philphotoyou might want to, it's a really big leap08:36
Chemicalvampi ran duel boot for a little while08:36
Chemicalvampbut i didnt have to change any settings08:36
philphotodid you get much saved on edgy?08:37
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Chemicalvampphilphoto, me?08:37
philphotochemicalvamp:  yes.  I mean, did you configure it all to your likings?08:37
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Chemicalvampyeah i said screw it, formatted everything wiped it all out08:38
M4ntiswhat's teh difference between /dev/hda and /dev/sda?08:38
philphotobecause it took me 2 hours to do the upgrade, I'd recommend the very quick full install of the iso image from cd08:38
Chemicalvampbut like i was going to tell m4ntis, while i had that "system restore volume" kubuntu asked me what i wanted to boot08:38
ffffu!replacement08:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about replacement - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:38
ffffu!applications08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about applications - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
Chemicalvamp!botsnack08:39
ubotuYum!08:39
ffffu!photoshop08:39
ubotuA comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant08:39
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M4ntiswell...I installed grub...I think lol08:39
M4ntisthis is like some twisted puzzel, its kinda fun despite the fact that I may have just wiped out windows08:39
philphotono, windows is still probably there08:40
Chemicalvampwell if you dont have any attachment who cares?08:40
philphotoexactly08:40
Chemicalvampi dont miss windows08:40
M4ntismy homework cares haha08:40
philphotoI definitely don't08:40
M4ntisbut it's backed up so its okay08:40
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ffffuany nice games for kde like bowling etc?08:41
philphotoM4ntis: hda is what a hard drive will be labelled as when it has other than ext partitions, I believe08:41
Chemicalvampwhat i would try is boot a desktop cd, install do partitions 200mb boot/ 2-3gb swap/ 40gb root/ 30gb windoze08:41
forhamChemicalvamp,08:42
Chemicalvampyeah08:42
philphotosda will be a hd with full ext partition and linux-swap08:42
forhamhi08:42
M4ntiswell, I'm going to try to reboot again.  If not I'll play with it after class tomorrow.  Thanks guys08:42
Chemicalvamphello08:42
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philphotonno prob08:42
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philphotoif I can help someone by telling my recent stories of mistakes, I've done good08:43
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M4ntishaha, :)08:43
Chemicalvampso yeah phil after all that "trying to keep my backups" i realized there was c onflict with my hda2 (vfat windows partition) and decided it was all fubar08:43
M4ntiswell here's hoping it helped!  night!08:43
philphotoI had the same thing08:44
philphotonight08:44
Chemicalvamp77% installed fiestyfawn08:44
philphotonice08:44
philphotoyou mean 77% downloaded?08:44
Chemicalvampno installed08:44
Chemicalvampit took like 4 hours to dl it08:44
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Chemicalvamp855 packages lol08:45
philphotosweet.  once you reboot, you'll notice a big difference if you thought edgy was slow (it was horrible slow here)08:45
philphotooh my goodness08:45
Chemicalvampit was like 3 removed, 60 new, 765 upgraded08:45
philphotooh you did the upgrade.  the slow route.08:45
philphotothe install takes like 20 minutes.08:46
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Chemicalvampeh? i dk.. i just did https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade08:46
philphotoyup, that's the long one.08:46
philphotono worries.08:46
Chemicalvampoh wellz lol08:46
philphotoit's a good update08:46
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philphotoI'm liking feisty.  I have to configure my scanners and printer again, but it seems a bunch faster than edgy kubuntu08:47
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duffydhowdy, just following the tutorial here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput?highlight=%28japanese%29 to setup Japanese support in kubuntu08:48
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philphotoso I have this spare CPU & 1gb ram.  I'm going to get a new mobo & make myself a terabyte+ server for my photography08:48
Chemicalvampi wont know what i need to do till its done, this is after i installed eclipse and tried (tried being the operative word) to get it to work08:48
duffydjust wondering if there's something I should be aware of - i.e. is the uim_anthy input method the recommended approach for kde?08:48
philphotodo you have an ATI graphics card?08:48
Chemicalvampi got 2.2ghz 1g ram 80gb hdd and yes i have ati radeon 200m video card08:49
philphotodon't know duffyd.  apologies08:49
duffydphilphoto: np08:49
philphotochemicalvamp: was edgy slow for you?08:49
Chemicalvampno not realy08:50
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philphotoit was horrible over here.  I have an older ati radeon though so perhaps that was it.08:50
philphotolike 30 seconds to open an app08:50
Chemicalvampmines a laptop amd6408:50
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Chemicalvampgonna try that vmware with my windows mce08:51
philphotoah, nice.    you had no problem because of the amd64 arch08:51
duffydI'm on edgy on a Dell 640m with 2Gb RAM and a dual core - runs nice08:51
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supernixI have a problem I did a upgrade a while back and now my Kubuntu dist is trying to use the gdm instead of the kdm08:52
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philphotofeisty is running really well so far here.08:52
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Chemicalvampman its late work is gonna suck!08:53
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philphotoI have to get up in a few hours too.  yuk08:54
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Chemicalvampawe cmon installer has been at 2 mintes remaining for like 5 minutes08:54
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philphotothat stinks.08:54
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Chemicalvamp99% is always the longest % lol08:56
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philphotolike that last dollar at the gas pump is the longest 2 minutes of your life.08:57
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Chemicalvampawe man08:58
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Chemicalvampwindow title.. "upgrader crashed"08:58
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robertobuenas08:59
robertoalguien tiene un manual de comandos para la consola de linux08:59
roberto?08:59
robertoque estoy empezando ahora y lo necesito09:00
Chemicalvamp!es09:00
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:00
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robertogracias09:00
krautmoin09:01
Chemicalvampes nada09:01
Chemicalvampbrb09:02
ffffu!suse09:03
ubotuOther !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)09:03
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c1|freaky!linux09:04
ubotuLinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux09:04
ffffucan i ask something about sources.list ?09:04
ffffuwhy do i have to edit the souces.list manually after installation to remove the # beside some of the deb ?09:04
ffffuare they there for some purposes?09:05
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Admiral_Chicagoffffu: yes some repositories don't need to be on by default09:06
philphotoyou are allowing adept, synaptic, whatever   to access the universe/multiverse in order to have access to thousands more applications.09:06
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Admiral_Chicagofor example, backports is a repo that can cause dependency issues but has useful applications like Flash 909:07
philphotook folks, it's 3am.  oy.09:07
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ffffuare ther special reasons?09:11
ffffuoh09:11
ffffubecause by default i would uncomment them all09:11
ffffuand add a mujltiverse09:11
ffffubehind09:11
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: that might cause a lot of issues09:12
ffffuanyway, i saw screenshots on others desktop..they have a icon apps selection thing that they rollover their mouse and the icon turns big..what is it?09:12
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ffffuwhat issues?09:13
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: i think you are thinking about the new Feisty action09:13
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: dependency issues for one09:13
BoomshikiHey, I am installing Kubuntu on a friends computer. On mine, I could apt-get kpackage but on his computer it's not finding it. What's the deal?09:13
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Admiral_ChicagoBoomshiki: that package is in universe09:14
ffffuno infact those screenshots are taken awhile back..i think they were saying its under gnome environment..but could i have that on kde?09:14
Admiral_Chicagoits new in KDE, not sure which screenshots you are refering to though09:15
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ffffuhttp://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2gc9.png09:16
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ffffuis that gdesklets?09:16
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BoomshikiDo you know why Kpackage would not come up in a search in Universe is like a default repo?09:18
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ffffuwhy?09:18
ubuntu_alright. so that sucked09:18
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chemicalvampinstalled the 6.10 - 7.04 upgrade and reboted to a comand line..09:19
BoomshikiAlright. Thanx.09:19
Admiral_ChicagoBoomshiki: unless you have universe enabled, it wont09:19
tarelerulz_What linux did everyone start out with? mine was Gentooxon on my xbox and then Fedora Core 4 on my computer09:19
Admiral_Chicagoalso, you may need to sudo apt-get update09:20
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic | tarelerulz_09:20
ubotutarelerulz_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:20
chemicalvampwhat command am i supposed to run to start / fix my fiesty install?09:21
ubuntu_Hi all09:21
chemicalvamp!hi09:21
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:21
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ffffuhttp://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2gc9.png <-- the thing at bottom what is it called?09:21
tarelerulz_What up ubuntu09:21
BaJLkaTai am from bulgaria ^^09:22
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: that is a modified panel09:22
BaJLkaTawhat is he bulgarian network,do you know ?09:22
BaJLkaTathe*09:22
ffffucan i do it in kde? i'm using kunbutu edgy now09:22
ffffuthat looks cool09:22
BaJLkaTai think yes09:22
Admiral_Chicagoprobably want an OS theming guide or something09:23
chemicalvampAdmiral_Chicago, what distro do you run?09:23
Admiral_Chicagochemicalvamp: Kubuntu.09:23
chemicalvampgot any knowlage on the 7.04 upgrade?09:24
Admiral_ChicagoI run Feisty atm, no issues, it is a solid release but thats just my opinion09:24
Admiral_Chicagomay not work for you09:24
ffffu!theme09:25
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:25
chemicalvampi followed all the instructions on the site09:25
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firecrotchAnyone know of a way to get a transparent background for kooldock ?09:29
MetaMorfoziSberyl.09:29
ubuntuarkadalar09:30
ubuntumerhaba09:30
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firecrotchMetaMorfoziS: I'm using beryl, and I can't find a way to make it transparent09:31
ubuntukubuntu kurdum ama grup ayarlarn nasl aabilirim  u anda alan cd deyim yardmc olurmusunuz09:31
ubuntu????09:31
MetaMorfoziSalt and mouse wheel09:31
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MetaMorfoziSthat can set anything to transparent09:31
MetaMorfoziSiirc09:31
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firecrotchkooldock isn't like a normal window though09:32
ubuntutrke bilen yokmu yardm edecek09:32
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MetaMorfoziSoh, shit.. true.. then i don't know:)09:32
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manu_hi @ all09:33
firecrotchHi, manu_09:33
manu_i made the driver for my webcam working but i have noc picture in camorama :(09:34
manu_firecrotch: http://paste.debian.net/24833 here dmesg09:35
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Ind[y] I want to run 3 commands (I can make them one with &&) after everything else runs, on boot. How can I do this?09:35
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Admiral_ChicagoKonversation is sweet09:43
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firecrotchWhat's so "sweet" about it, Admiral_Chicago09:43
Admiral_Chicagofirecrotch: On Screen Display really09:43
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ffffu!hi09:52
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:52
dromerhi, can anyone recomend me mathematical/thermodynamics-software for linux?09:53
manu_no one can help me?09:53
ffffumanu_: what webcam?09:53
manu_ffffu: aiptek slim320009:53
manu_ http://paste.debian.net/2483309:53
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shinigami!webcam09:57
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras09:57
shinigamidromer: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html <scroll down to section 9..or search for math09:57
supernixhelp gnome has robbed me of my kde09:58
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firecrotchsupernix: What do you mean?10:00
supernixwell I have been trying my best to restore kdm to be the default login manager it was changed after a upgrade a month back and I decided to correct the problem10:01
dromerthnx shinigami !10:01
supernixbut now all my attempts have left me with a text boot screen and gnome as the default window manager10:02
shinigamidromer: welcome!10:02
shinigamisupernix: hi do u check the rcX.d ?10:02
shinigami!rc.d10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rc.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:02
shinigami!startup10:02
ubotuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup10:02
supernixnope10:02
shinigamiso u want kdm to start up?10:03
supernixyes10:03
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supernixkdm with the default desktop being Kubuntu10:03
supernixum kde10:03
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dromershinigami: not much on chemical thermodynamics though ;)10:04
shinigamican u try startx first supernix?10:05
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shinigamidromer: haha..sorry..10:05
supernixyes that is the only way I get any desktop going10:05
supernixI have to login term style then run startx10:05
shinigamisupernix: alright.. does it have gnome running?10:05
supernixyes10:05
supernixit shoots gnome right up after I type it10:05
shinigamiso u need to remove the gnome screen by using update-rc.d10:06
shinigamii know how to remove kdm by update-rc.d -f kdm remove10:06
shinigamiand adding back using update-rc.d kdm start 99 5 . stop 01 0 1 2 3 4 6 .10:06
supernixso you type update-rc.d kdm start 99 5 . stop 01 0 1 2 3 4 6 to restore kdm ?10:07
shinigamiwait gimmi a moment10:07
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nargKDE is detecting ctrl+alt+f1-f11 as fx+10 (aka f1 is f11), and it is messing with my vt's. Anyone seen this problem before?10:09
shinigamisupernix: u need to update-rc.d -f gdm remove (do this in root)10:11
shinigamisupernix: after that update-rc.d kdm defaults10:12
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phantom20can anyone tell me how can i get winmodems working on kubuntu?10:12
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supernixGosh thanks shinigami I sure hope this nukes it10:14
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supernixwill reboot wish me luck10:14
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shinigamihaha..good luck10:16
shinigami!modem10:17
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto10:17
shinigami!modem > phantom2010:17
shinigami!modem | phantom2010:18
ubotuphantom20: please see above10:18
phantom20yeah,winmodems10:18
shinigamiyeah10:18
shinigamigo to that link10:18
shinigaminarg: rephrase the problem?10:18
phantom20thanks10:18
shinigamiwelcome10:19
nargshinigami: basicly X is translating ctrl+alt+f1 into ctrl+alt+f11 and I don't know why10:19
mrigns!bug#110:19
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents10:19
shinigamiu mean u see something else when u press ctrl-alt-f1 instead ?10:20
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shinigami!tty10:20
ubotuTo get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).10:20
shinigaminarg: what do u see ps aux | grep tty ? do u see ur tty1 ?10:21
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nargyes...10:21
nargThe problem isn't the ttys, the problem is x isn't letting me use the f1-f6 stortcuts10:21
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nargHrm, even xev detects it as f1110:22
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shinigamioooooo u using beryl under aiglx?10:22
nargnerp10:22
nargvanilla x10:22
shinigamisorry i'm not familiar with that..i only know kde and gnome..10:23
nargThanks anyway ;)10:23
shinigamibut erm if i'm logging in a aiglx session in kde i would face the problem too10:23
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nargIts a lower level problem than I thought10:23
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shinigamisupernix: how? can't?10:23
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phantom20thnks guys,keep up the good work.we love u10:24
supernixshinigami: after I rebooted I still got a text mode login screen10:25
server__I just installed my first linux ever :P10:25
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server__bbl10:26
shinigamisupernix: it used to boot up in gnome?10:26
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intelikeywell debian is too big of a down load for me to install now.   i guess i'll use what i've got  dog gone it.10:29
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shinigami2ops10:32
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Tm_Tshinigami2: obs?10:33
intelikeyoos ?10:34
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Tm_Tintelikey: hmm, maybe oops10:34
shinigami2shinigami: <-- dc10:34
intelikeyyeah it was.10:34
shinigami2!ping10:34
ubotupong10:34
intelikey!pong10:35
ubotupong is an old atari game. It's fun!10:35
server__does anyone know how I you use the 3d desktop? do I have to set it or just hold in some buttons?10:35
shinigami2!games10:35
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org10:35
shinigami2ahh..entertainment10:35
shinigami2don't they have bowling game or something10:37
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seven11what is the default path for the desktop trash10:40
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intelikey.local/*   i think10:41
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intelikeyi don't use a desktop so i really don't know10:42
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intelikeycp -ax /* /mnt/10:43
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seven11yes ~/.local/share10:44
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intelikeyi thought   i didn't know       <<< figure that one out any way you like.10:44
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intelikeykrap .    cp: cannot copy a directory, `/mnt', into itself, `/mnt/mnt'10:46
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intelikeycp -ax /* /mnt/    should not do that.10:46
intelikeygenii thanks.10:46
adrian99Im having a slight problem, when I try to go to the phpmyadmin page or my forums page it opens a download of a php file rather then loading the page any idea why?10:47
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geniiintelikey Heh! It's not for cleaning your equipment10:47
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intelikeyoh !10:47
manu_wo kann ich hilfe zu camorama bekommen?10:48
ffffuzz /.local/share/Trash/files10:48
adrian99Im having a slight problem, when I try to go to the phpmyadmin page or my forums page it opens a download of a php file rather then loading the page any idea why?10:48
manu_ops sry wrong chan10:48
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manu_where can i get help for camorama?10:48
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geniiadrian99: A few things. It may be no php is installed. Maybe the file is not executable or not in an apache dir where things get executed.10:48
adrian99well its the weirdest thing Ive seen and first time its happened to me10:49
intelikeyor some "setup" script needs ran10:49
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geniiintelikey: No, it would still try to execute the php10:50
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geniijust without any kind of default values for the phpmyadmin10:50
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adrian99hmm brb I gotta restart kdm10:51
vvvi tried to enter this command.. echo 'deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list                into my terminal.. but it says premission denied.. does anyone know the reason for this?10:51
intelikeygenii was it you that told me that i had to use  --one-file-system  cause -x is not working ?10:52
geniiintelikey: Nope :)10:52
intelikeywell make a note of it.      it's true.10:52
geniiwill do10:53
intelikeycp does not recognize -x10:53
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supernixHi I have the idea that maybe if I upgrade to Kubuntu 6.10 that might solve my kdm issue10:54
supernixanyone know how to upgrade from 6.06 lts to the 6.10 ?10:54
intelikey!upgrade10:54
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:54
vvvthanks tutuff i'll try another command10:54
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geniiadrian99: Anyhow, for php test make a file containing:10:56
genii<?php10:56
geniiphpinfo();10:56
genii?>10:56
geniiThen save it as something like test.php to /var/www and chmod +x the file. Then see what it does when you point your browser at it10:56
geniiDarn he left10:56
adrian99k10:56
adrian99lol10:56
geniiAh yer back10:56
adrian99yea I just installed my vid drive to I had to restart kdm lol10:57
geniiIf you still get where it shows as text or wants to d/l it lemme know10:57
vvvhow do i become the root tutuff?10:57
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adrian99yea it wants to save it....Im thinking something got left out when I mass installed the packages10:59
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vvvcould anyone tell me how to become the root user?11:00
geniiadrian99: try sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php511:00
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genii(if apache2 is the server)11:00
adrian99yeps11:01
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adrian99ah there we go works now lol11:02
adrian99thanks for the help : )11:03
geniinp11:03
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adrian99Im used to using the server install so Ive never really had to configure much but my PSU for my server fried so Im running my site off my main machine11:03
geniiadrian99: Yeah you may get some weirdnesses then. you likely want to install the perl module for apache as well11:04
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adrian99yea Im not even sure lol11:05
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intelikeywell i just installed boot loaders on four disks i should now be able to play musical boot loaders as long is desired.....11:06
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intelikeyas is ^11:06
intelikeythink i'll test them all right quick.11:07
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geniiadrian99 If you have some dev directory you put php or perl code in you may want to make an alias for it also in : /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default   file (as root edit)11:08
vvvdoes anyone know what i have to do.. to get a movie to play as my desktop wallpaper11:08
geniiwith +ExecCGI11:08
geniiwhy the hell would you even want to do that???11:08
adrian99wow that would be ram intensive lol11:09
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manu_http://paste.debian.net/2483911:09
vvvi have dual monitors always thought it would be fun to do.. saw a few videos of people doing it11:09
manu_i've installed my webcam correctly but i cant get any pciture11:09
manu_also not in camorama11:09
adrian99crap lol of course phpnuke is gonna make me re-install before I can restore the DB11:10
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geniiadrian99:  I hope you did a dumpdb11:10
adrian99oh yea11:10
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geniigood11:10
adrian99Ive learned the hard way lol11:10
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geniivvv I'm not so sure they are using a movie as the background rather than just using the second monitor to just play movies in full-screen mode11:11
intelikeyhmmmm  hdb failed to boot...   got the ole   lololololololololol11:12
adrian99Ive used phpBB, smf and could not figure out drupal but phpNuke seems pretty decent overall11:12
geniiadrian99: I'm not crazy about drupal either. phpbb is nice tho11:12
adrian99yea Im curious to see the final release of phpBB311:13
geniiadrian If you like php based stuff check out phprojekt11:13
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adrian99will have to look into it11:14
geniiAlso Horde framework11:14
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adrian99Im always interested in trying new softwares : )11:15
adrian99with a DB dump so long as the original directory is kept my forum should work once the DB is imported shouldn't it11:17
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geniiadrian99 With a raw dump you should even be able to import the table into whatever db program not neccesarily mysql11:18
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adrian99hmm well it appears everything is running lamp settings so its odd that I get a blank page from my forums even after importing the DB11:20
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geniiadrian99:  Did you restart the db server?11:21
adrian99hmm that may be it11:21
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adrian99nope didn't fix it11:22
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adrian99* Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ ok ] 11:23
adrian99 * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ ok ] 11:23
adrian99 * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables.11:23
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geniirestart apache as well11:25
adrian99didn't work :S11:25
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geniiThere is some initital mysql command to create the initial dirs etc but I forget which atm11:25
geniiinitdb ?? Somesuch11:26
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geniino I think thats postgre11:27
geniiintelikey Any interesting finds? LOL11:27
adrian99Im not sure but its not working :S11:27
intelikeyi didn't know that was in there....11:28
intelikeya few grey hair11:28
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geniiadrian99: Does the dir /var/db/mysql exist?11:30
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adrian99nope11:31
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crazy_buscan anyone recommend a program that converts images into tiff files?11:31
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chijinwhy would you do that?11:32
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geniiadrian then you need to do the "create first database thing" but i forget atm. It may be somewhere in "man mysqladmin"11:32
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geniiadrian99: I am always getting postgre and mysql commands mixed up11:33
DARKMAN_DEVHI all, here is may first question: Why I cannot use "man" i konsole for "C/C++" languages11:33
crazy_buschijin: were you asking me?11:33
chijinyeah :-p11:34
DARKMAN_DEVI meen that "man printf" or "man cout" does not work11:34
adrian99hmm I think theres something I may have to config in the php.ini file so it works with mysql properly11:34
crazy_busbecause tiff is cool :) (and the ocr program only works with them)11:35
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geniiDARKMAN_DEV: The manpages are for *commands* available on the system (and some configuration files etc). For command syntax on C/C++ download a reference manual for it11:37
intelikeyDARKMAN_DEV may not be what you want,  but     libstdc++6-doc - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (documentation files)11:38
geniiintelikey Thx11:38
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DARKMAN_DEVThanks a lot.11:39
intelikeythe package manager is the place to look.11:39
intelikeyfor all your ubuntu needs see dpkg11:39
intelikeyvia any frontend you choose of course.11:40
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adrian99ok its still not working ....this is quite frustrating :S11:41
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geniiadrian99: I'm pretty sure you gotta start off with somethin like su mysql -c "mysqladmin --createdb somedbname "    or so11:42
geniiI know if you run the sql commands as not mysql user there is big probs11:43
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CarinArradrian99: have you look at this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP11:43
adrian99yeps11:44
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intelikeybutton borked...11:44
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geniiadrian99: You have libapache2-mod-auth-mysql   installed?11:47
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adrian99as far as I know yeps11:47
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txabiHi, i can't get working a BenQ FP202W LCD monitor with intel 915G at 1680x1050. I get a out of sync error. Tried modelines, faked bios native resolutions with 915resolution. Any hint? Anyone has had success? Thnx.11:48
Thomas`How do I configure Konqueror so that a single click in the location bar will select all the text in it?11:48
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geniiadrian99: How about php5-mysql    ?11:50
adrian99I believe so11:50
geniiadrian99:  Well, for kicks try sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-auth-mysql  php5-mysql       then restart apache11:52
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makihow can i clean the outdated versions of pakages from /var/cache/apt/arhives11:52
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adrian99I got a dist upgrade going at the moment but I just finished installing phpBB3 beta and it seems to be fine but I can't get my main forum to work11:54
geniidpkg --forget-old-unavail      might clean em out a little bit for you11:54
genii^maki^11:54
intelikeymaki  sudo apt-get clean11:55
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intelikeyjust get the coffee11:56
intelikey:)11:56
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adrian99this is the one thing I like better about phpBB2, its so much easier to get things setup and restored11:57
geniiadrian I think I'm still running phpbb 2.14 or so11:58
makiintelikey:this will clear all data from  /var/cache/apt/arhives or only the old pakages11:58
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genii2.015 rather :)11:58
intelikeyall11:59
adrian99I hade been using the most up to date before I swaped to phpNuke but I can deff see the advantages of phpBB over it in the DB area11:59
makii dont need that11:59
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intelikeys/clean/autoclean/12:00
intelikeyi must have misunderstood your Q12:00
adrian99well update finished and I checked those packages and they are installed12:00
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intelikeyJucato12:01
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Jucatohi intelikey12:02
adrian99crap I need the c header files for vmware12:03
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Jucatogenii: please pass me one :)12:04
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adrian99None of the pre-built vmmon modules for VMware Workstation is suitable for your12:04
adrian99running kernel.  Do you want this program to try to build the vmmon module for12:04
adrian99your system (you need to have a C compiler installed on your system)?12:04
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geniiheh :)12:06
myTB|Tanuvais /etc/rc.local executed as root? (so will starting xampp from there work?)12:07
Jucatoadrian99: you need to install 1) build-essential and 2) the linux-headers for your kernel12:07
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myTB|TanuvaOh I see, it must be executed as root. okay ;D12:07
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myTB|Tanuva(because it belongs to him)12:07
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intelikeymyTB|Tanuva yes everything that init starts has uid 012:09
intelikeyor -1  :)   but we don't talk about that.12:09
geniishh!12:09
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myTB|Tanuvalol12:10
intelikey:)12:10
adrian99thanks Jucato that did the trick : )12:10
Jucato:)12:11
hyumahello all!12:11
hyumaI've a question, how can I unpack a file.deb to see what there is inside?12:11
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adrian99it will be much easier to get my server back up if I use vmware with a server install lol12:12
mrignshyuma: just use ark12:12
Jucatohyuma: just click on it in Konqueror and it will open it in ark12:12
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geniiYes, it's just tarred12:14
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intelikeywhat is  Zeese  Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386 ?12:16
myTB|Tanuvahas anyone of you tried running windows using a xen kernel?12:17
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intelikeyi have no idea why  installing  ubuntu-base would be erroring out with that     Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-38612:18
geniiintelikey You can likely fix it by installing linux-image-2.6.15-28-38612:19
intelikeygenii   it's installed12:20
intelikeythat's what is running.12:20
intelikeyCannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386-sda12:21
intelikeydpkg: error processing udev (--configure):12:21
intelikey subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 112:21
intelikeyLinux 2.6.15-28-386 #1 PREEMPT12:21
geniithe -sda  part is interesting12:21
hyumathanks mrigns and Jucato, now I try12:22
Thomas`How do I configure Konqueror so that a single click in the location bar will select all the text in it?12:22
intelikeyyeah i appended that on the initramfs.img file to distinguish it from the one that doesn't support scsi  that boots hda12:22
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geniiintelikey: Well just make another one12:24
intelikeyanother one what ?12:24
intelikeygenii that's a dpkg error   trying to setup  ubuntu-base12:24
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geniiintelikey Looks like it wants just xxxx-2.6.15-28-386   and not -sda12:25
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geniieg: Cannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-38612:25
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CarinArror /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-38612:26
CarinArrer12:26
intelikey:)12:26
intelikeyls  /lib/modules/12:26
CarinArror /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386 exists and it's looking for one with appended -sda12:26
CarinArrwhich does not12:26
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x`0ffhey guys, I've got a problem since I installed my kubunty a couple of days ago..12:26
intelikeynothing named initram anything exists in there....12:26
intelikeynever has12:27
x`0ffwhen I scroll down/up, my screen is like being cut in frames, it does not scroll smoothly12:27
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x`0ffanybody knows what this can be caused by ?12:27
geniiintelikey: Put a symlink there to /boot/ initrd.img-2.6.15-28-386 then12:28
intelikeygenii hehhe it's looking for kernel modules   i fixed it.  but why it was adding initramfs.img   i have no clur.12:29
intelikeyclue12:29
giangivaDid anybody try compiz on the latest Feisty (with kde-window-decorator)? It seems the magnetic borders are not working anymore... :-(12:29
geniiinteresting12:30
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adrian99well vm lamp install in progress now lol12:30
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CarinArrgiangiva: well i'm using beryl and things seem to be working okay for me12:31
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CarinArrapart from for some reason my window menues (when you right click menu bar)  don't have any beryl options12:32
geniiintelikey: I suspect because you have no usplash etc12:32
agani got this error when i start x, "API mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has the version 1.0-7184 but this x module has the version 1.0-9631 please..bla..bla..have the same version" how do i fix it? currently i have to reinstall the driver to make x start12:32
giangivaCarinArr: I'm trying to reinstall Feisty from scratch. It used to work some time ago.12:32
CarinArrgiangiva: i installed mine just a few days ago12:33
CarinArrand it has latest packages12:33
aganbut when i reboot the pc, the mismatch api come out again12:33
CarinArragan: you on edgy?12:33
aganyup12:33
giangivaCarinArr: My one is updated too but I have some mess in it. I'll try again this afternoon.12:34
geniiintelikey On my server box for instance nothing like that exists either. but on a stock dapper box it does12:34
CarinArragan: how did you install the driver?12:34
aganmanually from console12:34
CarinArrso not using the ubuntu package?12:34
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aganrunning "sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run  "12:35
intelikeygenii you mean there are files or links in /lib/modules/  with initram* names ?12:35
CarinArragan: i'd try using envy, it should clean things up for you12:35
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geniiintelikey: Yup12:35
CarinArr!envy | agan12:35
ubotuagan: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia912:35
intelikeyi've never seen that.    and did do default  (live CD) install a few times.12:35
CarinArrit's pretty good cause it finds previously installed bits and bobs and removes them properly before installing the new driver12:35
aganCarinArr, i was have tried envy, it will automatically install the latest nvidia driver, and currently the latest driver didnot support my nvidia card12:36
geniiintelikey A (gentoo-centric) explanation http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Initramfs12:36
CarinArragan: ah.. did you have nvidia-glx installed before?12:36
aganCarinArr, nope, but after i run the installation, nvidia-glx is installed automatically12:38
CarinArragan: you'll probably need to uninstall it completely12:38
CarinArrthere're howtos on the forum on how to go about it12:39
intelikeygenii ?    Search string 'modules/initram' not found12:39
CarinArrthere're quite a few packages that need to be purged12:39
aganhmm..ok i try it now...brb12:39
CarinArrproblem is if you don't purge them properly there're leftovers in the system, which is why you're getting the api mismatch thing12:39
CarinArri had it on dapper, exactly the same symptoms as well, worked fine before you rebooted it, then gave that message on new bootup, reinstalled the nvidia driver and all worked fine, until next reboot12:40
x`0ff  /J #ubuntu12:40
aganok..now it nvidia-glx has removed..now i'm booting..brb12:40
geniiintelikey All I can tell you is on my non-gui 6.06 box they aren't there but exact same kernel (non -server) on standard 6.06 it is there when the usplash is there12:40
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intelikeyin  /lib/modules/    hmmmm   ok.12:41
_root_hello guys12:41
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geniiintelikey I have a non usplash and a usplash and it appears on the usplash box but not the other one , thats with a gui12:41
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_root_hello12:42
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intelikeyi'm installing usplash to see if that's the cause12:42
_root_how can i upload files to my ftp server ??12:42
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smilehi12:43
genii_root_ Does the ftp server work?12:43
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_root_i have domine in ftp.members.lycos.co.uk and i have user name and password12:44
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_root_i want to upload files to this ftp12:44
genii_root_ Then some ftp client like maybe the fireftp extension for firefox12:44
charlesHKGhow can i resize my monitor resolution?  for some reason I booted my computer and now I have 640 X 480 resolution, but before I was at 1024 X 768.  The  in system settings the slide bar  wont change to a higher resolution...I cant see .....sssshh...12:44
_root_i try to use konsole12:44
CarinArrcharlesHKG: sounds like there's a problem with the x server12:44
_root_ftp and Open12:44
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_root_but when i connect i cant upload a thing12:45
CarinArrcharlesHKG: did you install a new graphics driver or anything else that might have caused that?12:45
genii_root_ Then put or get12:45
_root_if i try to upload a file only the empty file will be uploaded12:45
_root_sure i use put12:45
charlesHKGnope.....just switched over from kubuntu to windows then back12:45
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genii_root_: You may need to put it in binary mode first then12:45
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_root_i try in windows and kubuntu12:45
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_root_what is the binary mode /??12:46
CarinArr_root_: you can't resize it in either windows or ubuntu?12:46
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CarinArrer sorry12:46
CarinArrheh12:46
CarinArrconfused you with charlesHKG12:46
_root_what is the binary mode ?/12:46
_root_1010010112:46
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_root_??12:47
genii_root_:  after you have a ftp prompt put "binary"12:47
charlesHKGso you suggest try resizing in windows...Il try anything...12:47
charlesHKGat least once.12:47
charlesHKGbrb12:47
genii_root_:  It tells to use binary mode and not ascii to transfer files12:47
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CarinArrerrr. that's not what i meant;) oh well.. he's off12:47
_root_ftp> open ftp.members.lycos.co.uk12:48
_root_Connected to ftp.members.lycos.co.uk.12:48
_root_220 212.78.204.231 FTP server ready12:48
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_root_Name (ftp.members.lycos.co.uk:root): hola197312:48
_root_331 Password required for hola1973.12:48
_root_Password:12:48
CarinArr!paste | _root_12:48
ubotu_root_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:48
_root_230 Welcome to Tripod UK.12:48
genii_root_:  Also if you try to "put" a file that is not in the directory from where you ran ftp it will make an empty one on the server12:48
_root_Remote system type is UNIX.12:48
_root_Using binary mode to transfer files.12:48
_root_ftp> binary12:48
_root_200 Type set to I12:48
_root_i try this12:48
_root_what to do now ???12:48
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geniiAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGG12:48
intelikeynice flood12:48
intelikeyremarkable deluge12:49
geniiWell not put something like     put /my/path/filename.ext12:49
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geniieg:     put /home/me/index.html12:50
_root_can i compile visual software with gcc ???12:50
geniiputs the file index.html onto the remote server now12:50
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aganCarinArr, still not work12:50
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_root_ can i compile visual software with gcc ???12:51
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_root_????????/12:51
CarinArragan: i didn't quite mean fo ryou to try in windows, i confused you with root and though you said it didn't work in windows either12:51
genii_root_ the short answer is yes12:51
_root_but how ?12:51
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genii_root_  That is beyond the scope of this channel to explain12:52
_root_ok thank you genii12:52
CarinArragan: do you remember what you had been doing in kubuntu before you rebooted into windows ? (i,e before it stopped working)12:52
genii_root_  If you know how to program in C/C++ then you create a graphical program for some gui like KDE or Gnome etc then you use gcc to create the binary. This is the basic idea12:53
aganCarinArr, yes, it stop working since i installed nvidia driver12:53
CarinArragan: that's what i asked you about earlier;)12:53
CarinArrone sec12:53
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CarinArragan: you might want to try searching www.ubuntuforums.org and see if anyone has the same problem12:55
geniiintelikey Ahh quiet again :) I wonder how long this will last12:55
solomon_i had the same problem12:55
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intelikeymodprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/modules.dep: No such12:55
intelikeyfile or directory12:55
intelikeyabout that long12:55
charlesHKGMy resolution in windows is fine....kubuntu.....640 X 480....HeLp!!!12:56
aganok..i guess i know why this api mismatch is happen, when i installing nvidia driver i saw a warning, it said "nvidia installer has unable to determine the correct x library installation path and will install the nvidia x library to /usr/lib"12:56
intelikeyi think the package management system is totally borked.12:56
aganand it said "please correct any pkg-config"12:56
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geniiintelikey Somethings definitely messed12:56
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CarinArrsorry agan now i confused YOU with charlesHKG12:57
intelikeyyep.   and it's all in the   .postinst scripts12:57
CarinArragan: you'll probably need to purge more than nvidia-glx12:57
intelikeyand postrm  but not as bad.12:57
CarinArri.e. nvidia-kernel-common, and other packages related to the nvidia install12:58
CarinArractually, ubuntuforums have more than one thread regarding this, and that's what they suggest.. they're also a bit more specific about what needs removing12:58
CarinArrbefore i add more confusion i'm going to go paint my garage12:59
aganok then12:59
intelikeysome script writer needs to lay off the crack, or off the keyboard they don't mix very well.12:59
geniiI suggest dayglo orange as a nice lively alternative for a garage colour :)12:59
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geniiscares off intruders and gets the neighbours talking01:00
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h0axanyone familiar with metasploit on linux ?01:00
solomon_agan: i'm new to ubuntu, but when I (tried) to install the nvidia driver on slackware, it took the liberty of reconfiguring X for me, making a new xorg.conf, which didn't work, but it DID make a backup of my original01:00
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_root_can i compile windows software from linux ???01:01
geniiYes when you do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it likes to backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:01
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genii_root_ If it's written in C/C++ sure01:02
agansolomon, i was once installed nvidia driver on another cpu..and yup it took me days to make it work, but the result satisfied me coz i have a nice 3d desktop cube with beryl01:02
genii_root_ It's called cross-platform compiling01:02
leiarAnybody with audacity experience here?01:02
solomon_agan: i decided it was more trouble than it was worth for me, and use the "nv" driver, but I'm sure nvidia xorg-config made a backup of your original.  you can just mv it back01:03
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leiarI want to record several tracks, but I need to listen to track one when I record track two. Is that possible, in Audacity?01:03
intelikey_root_ question is not can you but why would you01:03
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aganyup..i know that, but if i move it back then i can't run beryl ;)01:04
solomon_not even with the "nv" driver?01:04
agannv driver give me direct rendering=no01:04
genii_root_  If you want to get laughed at go to channel ##C and ask about that :)01:04
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solomon_well, crap...sorry, but I didn't spend much time on the nvidia driver.  i thought u just lost your config file and wanted it back.  I gave up on it :(01:05
intelikeygenii is the /lib/modules/initramfs*   a link or dir or file ?01:05
geniiintelikey Heh :) He did go there01:05
aganok..anyway thanks01:05
geniiintelikey lemme look01:06
intelikey:)01:06
intelikeysome people like being abused i guess01:06
geniiintelikey directories. Not links either01:06
intelikeyk01:07
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geniiintelikey a buncha files under em01:07
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geniiyou want a list01:07
genii?01:07
aganbtw, what is the minimum specification for kubuntu 6.10?01:07
just-this-timebig problem ubuntu edgy alternateCD cannot mount CDROm while in rescue mode01:08
geniiagan I'd suggest 128 Mb ram, a P2-266 and about 4Gb HD01:08
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intelikeyoh    no...   well that's definitely the offending portion01:08
intelikeyRemoving usplash ...01:08
intelikeyCannot find /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386-sda01:08
intelikeydpkg: error processing usplash (--purge):01:08
twiztrHey everyone.01:08
agangenii, thanks01:09
geniiagan You're welcome01:09
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just-this-timenew coreduo MB a challenge  for liinux01:09
geniijust-this-time: Locks up booting livecd?01:10
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just-this-timeis there an updated alternate edgy suitable with new MB?01:11
aganxubuntu can run on P1 200mmx, but it said that its strongly recommended 128 mb ram..hmmm01:11
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intelikeygenii i can make /lib/modules/initramfs.img-2.6.15-28-386-sda    a symlink to   /lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386     and it seems to satisfy the package manager  but that's quite, unusual01:11
just-this-timeshould I go native or legacy on bios01:11
just-this-timeno genii just doesnot detect cdrom although boots from it so I cannot chroot from CD01:12
just-this-timeneed to fix grub after cloning01:12
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intelikeyagan "P1 200mmx"  hehhe   kubuntu can run, does run on a p1 mmx 100mhz box here.01:13
just-this-timenow mbr is MSwXP maybe I put grub with supergrub01:13
geniijust-this-time: Good idea is to go legacy on bios for sata controller so it gets seen as an IDE device01:13
crubeI need a little help. I'm trying to burn an iso image with K3b. I have an RW DVD, and K3b doesn't format it. It says "Formatted in DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite mode" and says "No need to format..." "It may simply be overwritten", but when I try to burn an iso image it says "Please insert empty DVD"01:13
crubeIt doesn't format it even if I use "Force" mode01:13
aganhmm...01:14
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just-this-timegenii problem cloning was cluster changed from 32k(on 160gb) to 16k( 80 gb) now grub wont start01:14
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geniiThats a tricky one01:16
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just-this-timegenii: no avail legacy in bios did not help resue disk mount the cdrom01:17
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geniijust-this-time: How did you "clone" your drive? dd or something?01:17
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just-this-timeacronis01:18
_root__hello01:18
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intelikeyi think the best way for me to fix this thing is change a whole bunch of update- scripts into symlinks to /bin/true01:19
joheyI have made something bad with KDE. Now, when clicking System Settings->Users and Groups (or whatever the English name is), I get an error telling me the module Users and Groups cannot be loaded.01:19
just-this-timeI guess cloning to same size 160 gb > 160 gb wouldnot be a problem in my case geometry changed01:19
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geniijust-this-time: Thats usually the mistake ppl make when copying a smaller driver to alarger drive01:20
joheyAnd I get two suggestions that are totally irrelevant.01:20
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johey(Something about some error at last KDE update or something about having old third party modules left)01:21
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geniijust-this-time: There's not much you can do now, unfortunately01:21
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just-this-time160gb still boots ok genii01:22
just-this-timeIam experimenting here for cloning efficiently01:22
agandamn!! i fix it,somebody in #beryl remind me..i forget disabling nv driver in linux-restricted module...01:22
_root__hello01:22
agannever told so easy01:22
_root__i nid help!01:22
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genii!ask | _root__01:23
ubotu_root__: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:23
Jucatojohey: not really sure if this will work, but try reinstalling the kde-guidance package01:23
twiztrIs there any good starter guides like ubuntuguide.org anyone knows of?01:23
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just-this-timewhat disk cloning app  in linux env can be used ?01:23
_root__asking for private msg01:23
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joheyJucato: A-ha... Hm. dpkg-reconfigure, or what?01:24
geniijust-this-time: And you can't boot even to livecd now??01:24
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just-this-timegenii I have alternateCD01:24
Jucatojohey: just plain reinstall. either in Adept or sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance01:24
just-this-timedunno about liveCD01:24
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vvvwhat do i need to run active wallpaper? like wallpaper that moves might be called x wallpaper01:25
intelikeyproblem solved !01:25
geniijust-this-time: The livecd is the default installation cd. It boots up to kde off the cdrom. Sorta like knoppix etc. Very useful for reinstalling grub and so on01:25
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intelikeyalmost as good as the alternate install cd01:26
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just-this-timegenii MB is DG96501:26
agani install kubuntu 6.10 using livecd01:26
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just-this-timeeven 160gb had trouble mounting CDS from within KDE01:26
intelikeygenii not a chance.01:26
intelikeyi think i just made it the most stable ubuntu box running.01:27
just-this-timealternateCD gives more flexibility01:27
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vvv.join ubuntu01:27
joheyJucato: Hm. It sais reinstallation of kde-guidance isn't possible because it cannot be fetched (warning for bad translation).01:27
vvvops01:27
just-this-timestill it is not 965intel ready01:27
wimpiesFor some reason I can no longer format DVD-RW in k3b ... anybody suggestions ?01:27
joheyJucato: However, my apt source is just fine.01:28
just-this-timeis feisty 965intel ready ?01:28
intelikeywimpies device is not listed in /etc/fstab is it?01:28
geniijust-this-time I can't remember if there is a rescue kernel on that one. If so you can boot  to "rescue"   then reinstall grub01:28
wimpiesno it isn't01:29
intelikeyyou can boot to install and switch tty's and install grub too genii01:29
wimpiesintelikey : it shouldn't (and needn't)01:29
geniiintelikey Ah yeah forgot about busybox01:29
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intelikeywimpies k01:30
just-this-timegenii: now put 80gbhitachi as secondary sata to perfectly booting 160gb WD can I clone from KDE ? jucato genii anyone ?01:30
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joheyJucato: I get a similar message when using Adept.01:31
intelikeyjust-this-time cloning partitions ?01:31
geniibetter not to "clone" between different size drives. Safer to just mount both and then copy the crap over01:31
cotyhey can someone tell me why kubuntu wont mount my psp01:31
cotyIt used to01:31
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cotybut now i get an error01:31
just-this-timenope intelikey cloning entire disk so it boots as the original01:31
coty[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab01:32
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just-this-timeintelikey: just as acronis and ghost do it01:32
intelikeyjust-this-time size differs...  not a good call.01:32
cotymount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:32
geniiThere *is* a linux ghost01:32
cotyintelikey: Do you have any idea of why this is?01:33
intelikeycoty mount /dev/sda1 /media/<something>01:33
intelikeysudo that01:33
cotyok01:33
just-this-timenow 80gb is at sdb01:33
just-this-timesda is the booted (sda7) (sda1 is the windows)01:34
Thomas`How do I type arbitrary characters? I want to type 0x1F (unit separator) but I can't work out how.01:34
cotyintelikey: do i put <something> on the end01:34
intelikeyyes and coty if that's usb it can move from sda to sdb ...01:34
intelikeycoty no01:34
joheyJucato: If it matters, I think I know what sequence of steps I did to accieve this problem. I first clicked System Settings->Personal->User account, then I clicked the icon to change my avatar. It said that the system admistrator won't allow me to change picture. I made other settings and clicked apply. Then I tried Users and Groups, but it was no longer working.01:34
intelikeyyou interpret the <something>01:34
cotyintelikey: hmm?01:35
just-this-timeintelikey: size differs I know but ghost windows combination worked ok with differrent sizes01:35
intelikeyjust-this-time so use ghost01:35
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intelikeycoty as in /media/sda1   or media/disk  or what ever is there.01:35
cotyok01:36
cotyi see01:36
intelikeycoty  the mount point is just an empty dirrectory.01:36
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cotyintelikey: am i to get output01:36
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intelikeywhen you mount a file system on the empty dir then what ever is in the fs is seen in that dir,01:36
intelikeycoty not if it mounts.01:36
intelikeycoty in linux   no error   means  no error.01:37
cotyintelikey: will i got no output and it did not mount01:37
cotyintelikey: and i still get an error01:37
intelikeycoty how do you know it did not ?    ls /media/<something>01:37
cotyintelikey: one sec01:37
cotyintelikey: it does not show that my psp is connected01:38
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intelikeywhere ?01:38
cotyintelikey: i get cdrom  cdrom001:38
intelikeyok.     #  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/cdrom  #01:39
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cotyi get the same error01:40
intelikeyif no output      # ls /media/cdrom  #     any output from that ?01:40
intelikeyok what error ?01:40
coty[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab01:40
cotymount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:40
geniiaha01:40
intelikeywrong device node.01:41
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cotyintelikey: so what should i do01:42
intelikeysee if    # sudo fdisk -l #      will list it for you.     or   # lsusb #   maybe?01:42
intelikeyi'm not sure i can tell the device node from the output of lsusb.....01:43
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cotyBus 001 Device 003: ID 054c:01c8 Sony Corp01:43
cotythat would be my psp im sure01:43
intelikeysdc  ?01:43
intelikeytry changing the sda1 to sdc101:44
cotyok01:44
cotyso what should i put in01:44
cotysudo /mount/sdc101:44
intelikey#  sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/cdrom  #01:44
cotyintelikey: I got this kimsommer is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.01:45
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intelikeywell  i suppose that you didn't use sudo befor ?      and that explains the problem.01:46
intelikey!sudo | coty01:47
ubotucoty: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:47
bcnethelp me plss01:47
hw_has (k)ubuntu an own console package management client? (besides dselect)01:47
bcnettoday i install kubuntu 6.1001:47
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cotyintelikey; i have done that01:47
intelikeycoty what is the account that you setup when you installed the system ?    use it and add your new account name to the admin group.01:48
bcnetbut i do not know the username01:48
cotyok01:48
cotyim using my moms01:48
manu_hi when i change the color settings for my webcam they are resetet after a restart of kopete :( can you help?01:48
cotybut my account is the first one01:48
bcnetso i cann't login01:48
bcnethelp me01:48
joheyhw_: apt-get?01:48
cotyso i should use it?01:48
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joheybcnet: You was asked to choose a user name when you installed Kubuntu. Use that user name.01:49
hw_johey: That is from debian as well =)01:49
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intelikeycoty only the first account created can do things like mounting fs's   and other admin type things.    you would be better off to setup something like  "pmount" genii could help you with that i think.01:49
joheyhw_: Yes. Kubuntu is based on Debian.01:49
Betzeferit is debian01:50
Betzeferjust better01:50
joheyNo. It's Kubuntu. :)01:50
Betzeferlol01:50
cotyintelikey: ok thanks01:50
intelikeygenii can you walk coty through setting up pmount ?01:50
geniicoty If you want to mount something from all users, put the option "user" in the fstab file where it has like rw,auto01:50
intelikeyi all done in for the day.01:50
cotygenii: were is that01:50
intelikeygenii this is about his third day in linux.  but he can copy and paste like a mad man.01:51
intelikey:)01:51
cotylol01:51
cotydont make fun of me :)01:51
intelikeyi wasn't.  that last part is a complement.01:52
bcnetjohey: the installation didn't offer any username to fill, just password01:52
cotyim learning01:52
cotyi know sudo01:52
coty:)01:52
intelikeyi'm out.   later all.01:52
cotycya01:52
geniicoty Every hard drive and so on you can mount (and external ones like what a psp would get recognised as) have an entry in a file called /etc/fstab     To edit this file you need to change it as root user controlling the text editor.01:52
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cotygenii: ok01:53
geniicoty A thing like ps for instance would get recognised as /dev/sda1  normally01:53
bcnetany one help pls01:53
cotyyea it is01:54
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geniicoty So you open the file in some text editor and look for the line having /dev/sda1 in it. At the end of the line will be some things like rw,auto      like that. You want to make rw,auto   into rw,auto,user01:54
cotyok01:54
cotycould you give the command i need to put in01:54
geniicoty This will let any user mount and use the drive01:54
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DeepoHI01:55
cotyhello01:55
mrignss-ata is regognised as sda too01:55
DeepoI have a problem with kubuntu01:55
geniicoty Sure. in Konsole type:     sudo nano /etc/fstab01:55
jervinebcnet: you could always boot from your CD (maybe DVD) again, mount the filesystem you have installed kubuntu to, and then cat the /etc/passwd file to see the username that has been created01:55
cotyok01:55
Deepothe netword doesn't work at start01:55
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geniicoty did it open the file in a command-line text editor now?01:56
Deepoif I do /etc/init.d/networking restart it works, but starting normally I don't have network01:56
cotygenii: no01:56
cotygenii: should i do it from the first user01:56
bcnetjervine: how to mount the filesystem01:56
geniicoty Well, you need sudo privelege, so yes :)01:56
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cotyXD01:56
cotyok01:56
bcnetjervine: i dont have live cd01:56
DeepoIm trying kubuntu 7.0401:57
jervinebcnet: ok - so mounting from the liv CD is no good... how did you install kubuntu?01:57
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vvvhow do i become a root user?01:58
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apokryphosvvv: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic.01:58
geniicoty A quick way to toggle back and forth between KDE and a terminal is:   ctrl-alt-f1 (for terminal)    then alt-f7   to get back into KDE. You can login to this termianl as any user01:59
vvvty01:59
bcnetjervine: just install it like usually, the step : first choose language> keyboard> hostname> then password >and the rest. there isn't any username01:59
genii!sudo > vvv01:59
jervinebcnet: ok, but the computer had to boot from 'something'?01:59
bcnetjervine: from the cd01:59
vvvthanks for the link u01:59
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manuel_hi02:00
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manuel_i have installed wine on 64-bit-kubuntu but when i start a game it is only in the top left corner and not fullscreen but it schould be02:00
geniivvv Yer welcome :)02:00
bcnetjervine: i've cd kubuntu-alternate-6.1002:00
geniicoty Are you still with me?02:01
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jervinebcnet: ok, I've not seen that one... does it not offer some kind of rescue mode/livCD as a boot option?02:01
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manuel_the guys from winehq says that my x is not good configured02:02
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bcnetjervine: the options : install with text mode, install with oem mode, install with command-line, repair the broken filesystem, boot from the hardisk02:02
cotygenii: XD02:03
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bcneti'm so confuse with this kubuntu version02:03
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jervinebcnet: just out of interest which option did you choose?02:03
geniicoty OK... did you see what I said anout ctrl-alt-f1 alt-f7 ?02:03
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cotygenii: i know that already02:03
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bcnetjervine: install with oem mode02:03
geniicoty Good :)02:03
cotygenii: daskreech taught me02:03
geniicoty So you now changed the /etc/fstab file as some user with sudo rights by doing sudo nano /etc/fstab02:04
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genii?02:04
cotygenii: yea02:04
cotygenii: be right back02:04
jervinebcnet: is there a reason you're installing with this disk rather than a liveCD?02:04
geniicoty OK02:04
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malcherhi02:05
geniiI'm getting a coffee, back in 2-3 minutes02:05
malcheris there a way to pass any options to packages in adept... e.g. if you want certain modules to be included or so?02:06
bcnetjervine: no02:06
cotygenii: Could not enter folder /media/sda102:06
cotygenii: i get that now02:06
malcheror, to explain it in another way... something alike "flags"02:06
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jervinebcnet: ok :) I'm not sure if the password you set during the install will give you access to runlevel1. basically what you want to do is get the PC booted so that you can read the /etc/passwd file on the partition you installed kubuntu to02:07
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jervinebcnet: when you boot it at the moment, does it just get to the KDE login screen?02:07
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bcnetjervine: ok, thanks for your help! now i'm trying to reinstall the kubuntu, if i have same problem, i'll back to dapper 'n my mi**sft02:09
cotygenii: today i am hoping is going to be a good day for the psp hacking scen if dark-alex ( a well know psp hacker) releases his custom firmware02:09
vvvwhat i need to do is move codec into a user folder.. but when i try and drag it doesn't work.. could someone give me a example.. of the commands i'd use to move a folder into another folder02:09
bcnetjervine: thanks for the info02:09
vvvlike sudo move <file name> to <folder name>  would that work?02:09
bcnetjervine: yes kde login02:10
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jervinebcnet: no users listed on the left hand side I guess...02:10
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bcnetjervine: u're wright02:10
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bcnetjervine: so i should i do next02:11
mrignsvvv: sudo mv <file> <target>02:11
cntb!ssh02:11
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/02:12
vvvty mrigns02:12
jervinebcnet: either reinstall, or see if you can get the root partition mounted somehow to inspect the /etc/passwd file02:13
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bcnetjervine: ok,02:13
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Betzeferhow do i see what kernel am i ?02:17
Betzeferwhat version02:17
mrignsuname -r02:18
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manu_ehere can i get kopete support?02:18
mrigns#kopete02:18
manu_my sttings for webcam color, brightness etc arent saved, after restarting kopete they have other positions02:18
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mrignsmanu_ /j #kopete02:19
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geniiOK I have new coffee now and am returned :)02:21
geniicoty OK I have new coffee now and am returned :)02:21
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geniiDurn, musta got tired o waiting02:22
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cotygenii: im here02:22
cotygenii: my dumb computer keeps on shutting off02:22
Jucatoor just wanted you to repeat yourself :)02:22
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cotygenii: the screen gets all sorts of colors02:23
cotygenii: then i have to tun it off02:23
geniiJucato I blame it on the lack of caffeine02:23
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Jucatogenii: or excess of it :D02:23
scion_hello all02:23
geniiJucato Perhaps, perhaps02:23
cotyIm hiped up on caffenine02:23
cotyi drink it straight black02:23
scion_<--- Jolt02:23
coty4 spoons of coffee for each cup02:24
scion_fuel of champions02:24
geniicoty Me too LOL. Anyhow now you get "Could not enter folder /media/sda1" ?02:24
cotyyes02:24
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geniicoty does:   ls /media show that   sda1  exists?02:25
cotyone sec02:25
cotyyes02:25
geniicoty OK 1 minute :)02:25
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vvvwhen i'm trying to install adobe flash player it says it doesn't support 6402:27
vvv-_-02:27
geniicoty But now it comes up with some notification you pluggede it in etc?02:27
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cntbcan you help me with vncserver02:28
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cotygenii: well im not on my moms account anymore02:29
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cotygenii: so it works on mine02:29
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cotygenii: I guess if i want to use it i just need to switch02:29
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cotygenii: but what really makes me mad is how my computer freezes then the screen gets all sorts of colors02:30
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cotygenii: then i have to restart my compuer02:30
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geniicoty That sounds like some other issue entirely02:31
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geniicoty Does it get weird letters and symbols that flash on and off?02:31
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cotygenii: no02:31
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cotygenii: it does green type of colors02:32
cotygenii: then i get a message02:32
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cotygenii: saying i need to check my pc display settings02:32
bulcasal02:32
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cotygenii: it happens when i have a lot running02:32
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geniicoty Likely your video card borrows memory off the motherboard to run instead of having it's own ram onboard. So when you have lots of stuff going the video fails02:33
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cotygenii: oh02:34
cotygenii: is there a way to fix that02:34
geniicoty If you don't need trillions of colours etc you could set in the bios to use whatever the minimum ram is for the onboard video card02:34
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geniilikely 64 or so02:35
cotygenii: ok02:35
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geniicoty More system ram also can't hurt much02:35
cotygenii: lol02:35
cotygenii: this computer is 7 years old02:35
cotygenii: the most it can have is 128 mb02:36
pollyoDoes remote desktop only recognize IP addressess or can I set it up to recognize Windows Networks and Machine names?02:36
pollyo!rdesktop02:36
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geniicoty Ahhhhhh. The OS needs pretty much all the 128. So any the video borrows is *extremely* problemmatic in marginal setups like that02:36
cotyok02:37
cotygenii: I guess it is time to go and buy a nice computer02:37
cotygenii: then wipe out windows and put my kubuntu on02:37
geniicoty If you have some old PCI video card layin around and a free slot, disable the onboard video and use the pci one.02:38
Dasnipa`coty, or you can wait til dell releases its preinstalled linux line02:38
cotyreally02:38
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cotythere going to release a computer with linux on it02:38
geniicoty Yes02:38
cotysweeeeeeeet02:38
crazy_penguinGood afternoon to all!02:38
cotythat means it will be cheap02:38
Dasnipa`coty, yes, a bunch of them... its going to take a bit though they have to train their support staff and all02:38
cotyright02:38
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cotyDasnipa`: why do they have to be trianed02:39
Admiral_Chicago!offtopic02:39
cotytraind02:39
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cotyDasnipa`: what are they training for?02:39
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geniiFor more info on Dell and Linux see http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&l=en&s=gen02:40
cotyDasnipa`: And will this lower the cost of the computer02:40
Dasnipa`coty, likely...02:40
cotycool02:40
Dasnipa`and coty they have to be trained so that when people have problems the support team can troubleshoot02:40
cotyDasnipa`: ah02:40
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geniiquote: "Majority of survey respondents said that existing community-based support forums would meet their technical support needs for a tested and validated Linux operating system on a Dell system."02:41
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Dasnipa`Admiral_Chicago, hey now its semi- ontopic ubuntu is one of the OS's under heavy dell consideration02:41
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cotyAdmiral_Chicago: were not to off topic02:41
Admiral_Chicagobut this channel is for people looking for support, not the future of it02:42
geniiDefinite gray area there LOL02:42
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geniicoty At any rate for the video issue keep what I said in mind :)02:44
cotyok\02:44
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JuJuBeeMorning, anybody know what to do when openoffice wont open properly "Another instance of OO is accessing your personal settings or your personal settings are locked..."?02:48
JuJuBeeWon't let me save anything...02:48
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geniiDo you have more than 1 instance open?02:50
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os2macsup ya'll02:51
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JuJuBeegenii : no.02:52
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geniiJuJuBee: Did you run it before as root or with sudo/kdesu/gksu and edit some files?02:52
JuJuBeeNope.02:52
JuJuBeeOne of my students is trying to use OO.  Last time he used it was last Thursday.02:53
JuJuBeeWhere are the prefs stored?02:53
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geniiAre the files stored in home dir or on a network?02:54
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JuJuBeeFound the prefs... Everything stored on fileserver on network.02:55
geniiJuJuBee: Theres yer problem02:55
JuJuBeeDon't understand?02:55
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geniiJuJuBee: User A opens OO and does something. User B opens OO on another machine but the share on the network which holds the OO settings is being used by user A. So user B is SOL02:56
geniiJuJuBee: User A must close OO before user B can open it02:57
JuJuBeeBut there are prefs for each user in their /home dir02:57
JuJuBeeNo, never had to do that before.02:57
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JuJuBee.openoffice.org2 folder in each users home dir.02:57
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geniiJuJuBee: In this case make sure that ownership of the files agree with the user whose home dir it is then. If user A edits user B's files for instance, the ownership change will not allow user B to open them again.02:58
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geniiJuJuBee: This happens when someone with sudo privelege for instance uses OO02:59
JuJuBeeHe does not have sudo privs and they cannot edit each others files.02:59
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geniiJuJuBee: Did you for instance (as a user who is in sudoers file) open up even perhaps once any files in any of their home directories then resave them. This will cause it.03:00
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geniiJuJuBee: At any rate, the quick fix would be to just change ownership on it all back to the user it originally belonged to.03:02
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JuJuBeeI tried that and it told me that there is another instance of OO running for this user on WS-2 (another computer), but that computer is off.03:05
JuJuBeeWeird.03:05
shinigamihi.. i want to load saa7134-oss automatically next time i boot up, so i put saa7134-oss in modprobe.conf.. now i'm getting WARNING: /etc/modprobe.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'saa7134-oss'03:06
shinigamiwhy?03:06
JuJuBeeI just mv'd the .openoffice.org2 folder to a .bak and re-ran OO and it loaded.  Don't know what is up, the ownership of all files in  the .openoffice.org2 folder and beyond are fine.03:06
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geniishinigami: Put it in /etc/modules instead and remove it from modprobe.conf03:06
jefftoHello everybody03:07
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geniiJuJuBee: What can happen is if the share is mounted with some certain options also like nosync    it will still think files are open when they are not03:07
shinigamibut /etc/modules is a directory03:08
shinigamihow do i insert03:08
shinigamiOh03:08
geniiNo, it is not a directory03:08
shinigamiok03:08
shinigamiso do i remove the file modprobe.conf ?03:08
shinigamiits empty03:08
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geniishinigami: Yeah you can delete it03:09
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vvvi need to move a folder over to my windows partition.. i installed the software to do so.. but i can't figure out how to give myself premission to write on my windows partition03:10
geniishinigami: At any rate, open the file /etc/modules with (from Konsole):    kdesu kate      then just add the name of the module you want on a line of its own at the bottom. Then save it and every time after the module will always load.03:10
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geniishinigami: kdesu kate /etc/modules                        even03:11
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geniivvv Is this some ntfs partition?03:12
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vvvyes03:13
vvvi just want to transfer over a few files.. but i can't seem to get the premission to do so03:13
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harolIs there a way to remove jobs from apt-get's quene?03:14
harolI currently have "Conf vmware-player (1.0.2-2 Ubuntu:6.10/edgy)" pending03:15
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harolAnd running that breaks everything...03:15
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geniivvv And you installed ntfs-3g    package?03:15
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vvvyes03:16
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geniivvv Please make sure the /etc/fstab entry then looks like:03:19
genii /dev/<your partition>     /media/<mount point>     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    003:19
geniiFor the partition you are trying to mount. Replace en_US with your locale if it is different. Also remember that <your partition> should be the thing like hda4   or whataver partition that is the ntfs one of course. Same thing with <mountpoint> ... some dir that exists under /media03:19
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harolWhere does aptitude keep it's logs?03:21
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embrapaexit03:21
Jucatoharol: in /var/log/03:21
vvvthanks again genii03:22
vvvi saved what you wrote i'm gonna pass out.. and work on linux again tomorrow =)03:22
NiceGuyUKdespite having disabled the screensaver in KControl and turning off all Power Management, my laptop still blanks the screen when unattended for a few minutes - anywhere else I should be looking?03:23
geniivvv np. I would suggest for a better solution to have an ext3 partition and then use windoze ext2/3 driver from http://www.fs-driver.org/03:23
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tuxis there any way to write on NTFS partitions yet?03:23
NiceGuyUKtux : I believe the ntfs-3g drivers allow this03:24
tuxcool03:24
geniitux There is the ntfs-3g  ... however it is often temeramental depending on original ntfs codepages nls  etc etc etc03:24
tuxnot stable enough jet then03:25
geniiAnd there seems so far little info as to how it interacts with the newest ntfs which vista will use03:25
NiceGuyUKVista users deserve all they get :P03:25
tuxno self respecting computer user will install vista anyway, so dont mind that03:26
geniiNiceGuyUK: BTW maybe check your bios settings for screen off type powersaving settings :)03:26
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NiceGuyUKI thought maybe that, but it didn't happen under a gnome desktop in the past...hence I think its in Kubuntu somewhere03:27
tuxmight be bios settings, would be strange anyway, normally the operating system manages the screen03:27
Ayandeanyone that knows were do get the correct version of apache and php?03:27
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NiceGuyUKIs it possible that gnome's screen saver settings would interfere with KDE, given that I have both desktops installed?03:28
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tuxfor linux?03:28
tuxwww.php.net?03:28
Ayandeyes03:28
Ayandekubuntu03:28
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tuxhm stupid question, why use windows as a webserver03:28
tux:p03:28
Ayandewell i did first lol03:28
geniiAyande:   do:   sudo apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php503:28
tuxnooooo03:28
tuxIIS sucks03:28
PhinnFortwtf use windows for anything mission critical?;)03:29
geniitux Yes, it royally sucks03:29
PhinnFortIIS has been and still is bad03:29
tuxthe only way my linux webserver could get ANY downtime was power issues03:29
Ayandeim first time linux user03:29
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NiceGuyUKPhinnFort: I support several large financial organisations that do just that!03:29
Ayandeill try that genii thanks03:29
PhinnFortNiceGuyUK: well, i guess I'm getting rich tonight, then;)03:29
NiceGuyUKlol03:29
geniiAyande: To see if it installed after, point our web browser at 127.0.0.103:30
NiceGuyUKor just "localhost" ;-)03:30
Ayandemm that i know :P03:30
Ayandebut im not sure i know how to install things on linux yet03:30
Ayandehope its not harder then i think :P03:31
wargoth_~paste03:31
PhinnFortAyande: it's easier than in windows03:31
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PhinnFort!paste | wargoth_03:31
NiceGuyUKwith ubuntu its extremely easy03:31
wargoth_where can I paste a code?03:31
Ayandei see03:31
PhinnFortwargoth_: rafb.net/paste03:31
geniiAyande I gave you the command-line way. There are also the package managers in the gui such as adept and aptitude. For me the command-line way is simplest03:31
NiceGuyUKaptitude has a gui?03:32
PhinnFortcommand line is much quicker, for pretty much anythin03:32
Jucatogenii: aptitude GUI?03:32
PhinnFortg03:32
Jucatoncurses GUI probably :)03:32
PhinnFortNiceGuyUK: i thought it had a gtk gui03:32
PhinnForttoo03:32
Ayandei see03:32
Ayandethanks03:32
geniiOK OK no aptitude "pretty" gui ROFL03:32
Ayandei pm if it wont work :P03:32
NiceGuyUKI started using aptitude over apt-get cos it seems to handle dependencies better03:33
geniiEven better, use dpkg03:33
NiceGuyUKAyande: better to ask in the main channel instead of PN - that way other people can learn from the answer you get at the same time03:33
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PhinnFortNiceGuyUK: that's what the debian people recommend03:33
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PhinnFortheh, i can't see my karma on the new and improved launchpad...03:33
Ayandeah i see03:33
Ayandei will03:33
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Ayandebrb gonna give it a try03:34
NiceGuyUKfor real karma, don't be obsessed with your karma ;-)03:34
PhinnFort;)03:34
PhinnFortkarmaholic03:35
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user_\o03:36
geniiIs the ubotu still down?03:36
genii!ping03:36
user_!ssh03:36
PhinnFort!w00t03:36
geniiHmm looks like03:36
user_apparently03:36
PhinnFortub-tab, doesn't do anything03:36
PhinnForthe isn't here03:36
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user_call LjL03:36
wargoth_!paste03:37
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genii!ops ubotu seems down in #kubuntu03:37
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geniiCept it sorta needs the bot to work ROFL03:38
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Jucatogenii: we already know :)03:38
shinigamiwhy do i still get missing plugin in firefox even after apt-get install sun-java5-jre sre plugin ?03:38
shinigami!java03:38
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Jucatoshinigami: bot's down03:38
easytigershinigami: install it manuall?03:38
Jucatoshinigami: have you checked about:plugins in Firefox? how did you install firefox?03:38
PhinnFortcome back03:38
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easytigermanually? its just a symlink in your firefox plugin directory03:38
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shinigamihmm what's the proper package to install java for my necessary rowsing?03:38
shinigamiapt-get install mozilla-firefox03:39
geniiJucato Interestingly however, when i do /msg ubotu hello      it opens a window etc and works there03:39
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Jucato!ping03:39
=== genii thinks perhaps the ubotu is going on strike for longer hours and less snacks
jsroy_I have a problem with my splashscreen: After I enter my password in kdm, I get no splash screen. Also, I get the following error: "No background. Try to put a Background.jpg in theme folder" in a small dialog. When I press the OK button, my kde desktop is replaced with my kdm background until I press a mouse button. When I do, my kde comes back. I dont know what to do... Using Kubuntu 6.10, Linux 2.6.17, KDE 3.5.5. Thanks03:40
PhinnFortwho is handling ubotu?03:40
Jucatohm... seems to be back but lagging03:40
ubotupong03:40
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PhinnFort!kdm03:40
harolIm having a problem with adept. adept_manager dies silently on startup.03:40
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:41
PhinnFortjsroy_: go to System Settings -> Splash Screen, and try switching to another splash03:41
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freeware_xphey room , i have a question , whats the smallest ubuntu distro with the software packagemanger included?03:41
haroladept_installer works when i start it, but if i switch from "KDE" packages to "Any Suite", it too instantly dies.03:41
PhinnFortfreeware_xp: probably xubuntu03:41
shinigamii need java runtime envirnment ..hoich package shd i d/l03:41
PhinnFort!java | shinigami03:42
ubotushinigami: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:42
geniiYes xubuntu03:42
jsroy_I dont think my problem is related with kdm though, it has to do with the slash screen I think.03:42
PhinnFortjsroy_: did you do as i said?03:42
shinigamihuh?03:42
geniiBut for truly minimalistic install of some linux you should look into Damn Small Linux03:42
shinigamii don't get it. i installed sun-java5-jre03:42
shinigamiis it becoz i need java6?03:42
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jsroy_Yes, I am looking03:43
freeware_xpis xubuntu smaller than 700 mb _mint linux ?03:43
geniifreeware_xp: No.03:43
user_can I instruct grub to find boot partition after cluster size changed from 32k to 16k ?03:43
PhinnFortmy sister uses Darn Small Linux03:43
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user_shinigami: uncomment backport in /etc/apt/sources.list03:44
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jsroy_I have tried many times changing splash screen, but none will appear. When I enter my password, I am directly brought to the KDE desktop with the error message. I have tried many splash screen without any success03:44
geniifreeware_xp: However, there are some hacks which will let you for instance put the casper (livecd image) on something like a hd or usb key and use that.03:44
shinigamialready did!03:44
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geniifreeware_xp: It's ~700Mb03:44
freeware_xpthanks genii03:45
user_genii: still no joy with cloning dual boot install03:45
freeware_xpi just thought their was a ubuntu small distro like 70mb puppy linux03:45
PhinnForttry DeLi linux03:45
geniiuser_ It might help to know what name you had earlier when we discussed this issue :)03:45
freeware_xpdeli ? is it indian linux,?03:46
PhinnFortfreeware_xp: no, Deskop Linux03:46
PhinnFortextremely lightweight03:46
PhinnForti run it on my Pentium (1)03:46
IamBoblol... indian linux ^^03:47
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freeware_xpdeli linux sounds like new deli , might as well call it "curry muncher ubunutu linux"03:48
geniiI used to run at one time MuLinux (microLinux) It ran X off of floppies actually03:48
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shinigamii don't get it..03:50
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shinigami!java03:50
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.03:50
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nico_hi03:50
shinigamii already did the steps but what's the problem03:50
PhinnForthi03:50
nico_does one of you know where to download ATI drivers for feisty?03:50
PhinnFortnico_: !ati03:51
PhinnFort!ati | nico03:51
ubotunico: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:51
PhinnForti mean;)03:51
geniiPhinnFort: I'm pretty sure there are some fglrx drivers in the feisty repos03:51
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PhinnFortgenii: well, i don't think fglrx is any good;)03:51
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PhinnFortnico_: what video card do you have?03:52
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nico_ATI X1600 mobility03:52
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PhinnFortnico_: follow that link, then03:52
nico_jep03:52
nico_that's even easier then i thought03:52
PhinnFort;)03:52
nico_driver installed03:52
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PhinnFortheh03:52
nico_aargh, linux cant get any easier03:53
PhinnForthehehehe;)03:53
PhinnFortI just wait for thought control03:53
eagles0513875nico do u have open gl03:53
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PhinnFortas in, just wish what the computers want03:53
nico_remote desktop at persons03:53
eagles0513875nico_: does open gl work for ya03:53
crubeIs windows key disablet at default? I need it in Beryl.03:53
crubedisabled*03:53
BluesKajHowdy all :)03:53
nico_how do i test it03:53
PhinnFortcrube: no03:53
nico_perhaps i have to restart X eagles051387503:53
PhinnFortnico_: remote desktop or gl?03:53
crubePhinnFort: Alright. Then there must be some other reason it doesn't work.03:54
eagles0513875nico_: u want to test opengl03:54
PhinnFortnico_: you need to restart X to get DRI03:54
eagles0513875nico u registered03:54
nico_gl PhinnFort03:54
geniinico_ You may find some help here as well. Just skip down tot he parts dealing with the fglrx drivers for the correct order and syntax of commands. http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide03:54
eagles0513875open shell and do glxgears03:54
eagles0513875if it works the gears wont lag that means u have it03:54
eagles0513875if they lag then u dont have open gl03:54
PhinnFortgenii: I believe the ubuntu wiki is better than ATI's thingy03:54
eagles0513875ya that is what i used to get my open gl to work03:54
PhinnFortnico_: reboot or ctrl+alt+backspace, and run "glxinfo | grep ire"03:55
nico_i think i have to reboot after installing the drivers03:55
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eagles0513875yes nico03:55
PhinnFortnico_: if that returns "Direct Rendering: Yes", then you have hardware accelerated OpenGL03:55
nico_ok PhinnFort im gonna restart X, please repeat that command when i get back03:55
nico_brb03:55
PhinnFortnico_: ok03:55
PhinnFortglhf03:55
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nico_x restarted03:56
PhinnFortnico_: glxinfo | grep ire03:56
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PhinnFortyes or no?03:56
nico_hm no protocol specified03:57
nico_i think i really have to reboot03:57
nico_brb03:57
PhinnFortmaybe03:57
PhinnFortnico_: wait03:57
PhinnFortjust "sudo modprobe fglrx"03:57
PhinnFort....03:57
PhinnFortcrap03:57
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jsroy_does someone know which file KSplash modifies to keep track of user selected splash screen?03:57
PhinnFortjsroy_: probably under .kde/config/ksplash03:57
PhinnFortor something03:57
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PhinnFort.kde/share/config03:58
PhinnFortmaybe03:58
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eagles0513875i know this is goign to freeze my comp so ill brb03:58
cntb\o03:58
PhinnFort.kde/share/apps/ksplash/03:58
cntbhi LjL03:58
PhinnFortjsroy_: peek around under .kde/share/apps/ksplash/03:58
cntbhaha I did it03:58
PhinnFortcntb: what?03:58
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PhinnFortnico_: all wel?03:59
PhinnFort*well03:59
nico_ok03:59
PhinnFortglxinfo | grep ire03:59
nico_hm not really03:59
cntbcloned in ghost8 a dual boot xp+ Kedgy03:59
LjLhi03:59
jsroy_thanks, I found it :-)03:59
nico_no direct rendering03:59
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nico_and also only low resolution03:59
PhinnFortnico_: can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:59
PhinnFort!paste04:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:00
cntbhad 160gb cloned to 80gb sata was on blinking grub , dd-ed the boot sector to ubuntu.bin invoked from boot.ini and voila04:00
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cntbcloned DUAL BOOT PC on SATA on 965intel04:00
felipe_hi! i need to run 32bit applications in kubuntu 64... does anybody know how to do it?04:01
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PhinnFortfelipe_: search for "ia32"04:01
PhinnFortin packages04:01
felipe_hm04:01
felipe_thanks! i'll try that04:01
PhinnFort!ia3204:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ia32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:01
cntbsatisfied now will save a separate sata160gb image  and aseparate sata80gb image then hopefully soon make a 250gb clone04:01
cntbubotu is back04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is back - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
PhinnFort!remember is back is good04:02
cntbubotu is OK04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about is ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
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PhinnFort:P04:02
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nico_lol04:02
nico_stupid ubotu bot04:02
cntb!remember ok is ok04:02
razo1How do i run Konqueror as root?04:02
PhinnForthe /msg'ed me04:02
Jucatorazo1: kdesu konqueror04:02
PhinnFortcntb: don't, some op is going to get pissed...04:02
PhinnFortrazo1: alt+f2, "kdesu konqueror"04:03
cntbPhinnFort: you are right04:03
cntbyou joked right04:03
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PhinnFort:P04:03
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nico_my logfile is pretty big PhinnFort04:03
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PhinnFortnico_: paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/04:04
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nico_http://www.pastebin.ca/42088804:05
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nico_PhinnFort: 3836 lines04:06
PhinnFortnico_: try cleaning out your xorg.conf04:06
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PhinnFortnico_: paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:06
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Yorokobinico_, (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable04:06
nico_hm strange since it did work in edgy04:07
nico_i think i'm missing some drivers here04:07
YorokobiAIGLX is built into Xorg in feisty04:07
nico_libgl1-mesa-dri ??04:07
PhinnFortnico_: paste the config, mkay?04:08
PhinnFort"(WW) VESA(0): No valid modes left.  Trying less strict filter..."04:08
razo1Linux(Kernal version 2.2.14 or 2.4) <<<does that match ubuntu 6.10??04:08
eagles0513875would the edgy ati wiki help out at all04:08
PhinnFortrazo1: from where is that?04:08
razo1realteks driver download site04:08
razo1i need to know withc driver to install04:09
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PhinnFortnico_: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"04:09
felipe_is there some kind of 32bit emulation package or kernel module for kubuntu 64?04:09
PhinnFortrazo1: why do you download drivers?04:09
cotyI just pluged in a new hard drive how do i mount it?04:09
PhinnFortcoty: didn't a funny message pop up?04:09
Yorokobirazol, edgy uses the 2.6 kernel. You can check yours by running 'uname -a' at a terminal (konsole)04:09
razo1http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#2  someone please go to that link and tell me what driver to download and install04:09
cotyPhinnFort: no04:10
PhinnFortcoty: try alt+f2, type in "media:/"04:10
PhinnFortrazo1: none04:10
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[pyro] hey guys04:10
razo1but my sound card isnt working04:10
PhinnFortrazo1: you sholdn't download drivers separately04:10
Yorokobicoty, is this drive already formatted and does it have data on it or is it a raw drive ?04:10
razo1then how should i get it to work04:10
PhinnFortrazo1: can you paste the output of "dmesg" to a pastebin?04:10
PhinnFort!paste | razo104:10
uboturazo1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:10
cotyYorokobi: its formatted04:10
PhinnFortcoty: did you open "media:/"?04:11
cotyyes04:11
nico_PhinnFort:  with the dpkg-reconfigure i get the error that xserver-org is not installed04:11
Yorokobicoty, connected via USB/firewire or SATA/IDE ?04:11
razo1dmesg?04:11
cotyit sata/ide04:11
PhinnFortcoty: found it?04:11
nico_im running feisty btw if that's any help04:11
razo1i dont have the time..04:11
cotyphinnfort: no04:11
razo1bye and thanks for your help04:11
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PhinnFortrazo1: turn up the volume04:11
cotyphinnfort: it does not show uup04:11
PhinnFortcoty: then it hasn't be recognised04:12
PhinnFortcoty: is it powered on?04:12
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Yorokobicoty, sata/ide drives don't auto-mount if they were not present during the OS install04:12
PhinnFortnico_: xserver-xorg04:12
PhinnFortremeber the second X04:12
PhinnFortnot xserver-org04:12
cotyPhinnFort: Yorokobi: so what should i do?04:12
nico_lol04:12
PhinnFortcoty: paste dmesg?04:12
PhinnFort!paste | coty04:12
ubotucoty: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:12
nico_PhinnFort:  i think you hit the nail on the head there04:12
cotywhat msg04:12
Yorokobicoty, do you know what the dev name is ? /dev/hd?04:13
nico_vesa PhinnFort ?04:13
PhinnFortcoty: type "dmesg" in a console04:13
cotyok04:13
PhinnFortnico_: no vesa, find ati or fglrx04:13
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PhinnFort:D04:13
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Yorokobicoty, you may need to pipe dmesg through a pager : 'dmesg | less' then you can use the arrow keys to go up and down and us '/' and '?' to search04:13
PhinnFortYorokobi: not if just pasting...04:14
PhinnFortit's for my reading delight04:14
PhinnFort:D04:14
nico_Video card's bus indentifier, how do i find out wich bus it is on04:14
YorokobiPhinnFort, aye, true04:14
cotywow04:14
PhinnFortnico_: try just hitting enter04:14
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cotyso you want me to past this04:14
PhinnFortnico_: defaults are mostly sensible04:14
jsroyI found my bug. Some junk files where in my ./kde/share/apps/ksplash/Themes folder. Removing them solved my problem. Thanks for the help.04:14
PhinnFortcoty: it's the kernel's log04:14
cotyoh04:14
PhinnFortjsroy: yw04:14
PhinnFort:D04:14
nico_PhinnFort:04:14
PhinnFortyes04:15
nico_PhinnFort: Framebuffer device interface yes or no04:15
nico_default n04:15
nico_o04:15
PhinnFortno04:15
PhinnForttry no04:15
PhinnFortif it doesn't work, you can always go back and change it04:15
nico_hm keyboard variant04:15
PhinnFortnico_: where in the world are you?04:15
nico_the netherlands, but normally i use US international keyboard settings04:16
nico_acer notebook04:16
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PhinnFortone of the topmost, then04:16
PhinnFortyou find anything sensible?04:16
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nico_PhinnFort: some modules to select here04:17
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nico_bitmap, dbe, ddc, dri, extmod, fretype, glx, int10, vbe04:17
PhinnFortnico_: just leave the defaults04:17
nico_and not default selected record and v4l04:17
PhinnFortit looks sensible04:18
gabbahhey guys, does apt-get dist-upgrade install the latest ubuntu release, ubuntu edgy?04:18
BruceLeeds2hier leute - wie siehts aus? ich moechte gerne einen "HP Laser Jet 4200" mit einem pc verbinden, aber er erzaehlt mir als einen von wegen driver waere nicht da. muss ich da noch ienen driver installieren, oder sollten alle driver bereits standartmaessig fuer den HPLJ4200 da sein?04:18
nico_ok04:18
BruceLeeds2ups sorry04:18
PhinnFortnico_: what video driver did oyu choose?04:18
BruceLeeds2not german - sorry04:18
cotyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13518/04:18
gabbahi have dapper right now i think04:18
nico_glx04:19
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PhinnFortnico_: i mean in the beginning04:19
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maurohi everyone!04:19
PhinnForti think "ati" was the default04:19
cotyphinnfort did you get that04:19
nico_gabbah: i think it will install feisty, the newer verseion04:19
nico_version04:19
PhinnFortcoty: roger04:19
nico_yes04:19
cotyPhinnFort: 10-404:19
nico_im gonna restart X04:19
nico_brb04:19
PhinnFortcoty: i think this is the error here: "[17182279.656000]  sd 0:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to device being removed"04:20
PhinnFortcheck the cable04:20
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cotyPhinnFort: it is ok04:20
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PhinnFortcoty: do you have scsi-disks?04:20
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cotyPhinnFort: i dont know04:20
PhinnFortcoty: then you probably don't have04:20
PhinnFortscsi04:20
cotyata04:20
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Yorokobicoty, how about SATA ?04:20
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cotyi think ata04:21
PhinnFortcoty: try "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt"04:21
cotyok04:21
YorokobiAlso, coty, type just 'mount' and paste that to another pastebin, please04:21
cotymount: you must specify the filesystem type04:21
PhinnFortcoty: are you sure you formatted the drive?04:21
cotyyes04:22
PhinnFortcoty: what comes from "dmesg | tail"?04:22
PhinnFortwhat is the last line?04:22
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cotyhold on04:22
cotylet me past the mount04:22
PhinnFortok04:22
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luckyonesup foo's04:23
cotyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13519/04:23
PhinnFortPSP04:23
Yorokobibreakfast, luckyone04:23
PhinnFort?04:23
cotyyes04:23
PhinnFortdinner, soon, i hope04:23
cotyPhinnFort: that is my psp04:23
PhinnFortit's the psp that's troublesome?04:23
cotyPhinnFort: no04:23
PhinnForthuh04:24
luckyonemy question of the day, what wireless card should I buy for my new PC?04:24
cotyPhinnFort: It is my hard drive04:24
luckyoneI bought a belkin window.open('','_parent','');04:24
luckyonewindow.opener = self;04:24
Yorokobicoty,would /media/sdb be the new drive?04:24
luckyonewoop04:24
luckyones04:24
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PhinnFortYorokobi: i believe that's the psp04:24
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kEEGAnhi04:24
cotyYorokobi: i dont know04:24
cotyYorokobi: nothing at all is showing up04:25
luckyoneI bought a Belkin F5D705004:25
kEEGAncan i voice chat on yahoo messenger with GAIM can you suggest some other software04:25
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YorokobiI'm going to have to borrow by bro's PSP and try it out.04:25
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PhinnFortcoty: is it an internal harddrive, or external?04:25
cotyYorokobi: try what out04:25
nico_PhinnFort: that didnt go verry well04:25
cotyPhinnFort: internal04:25
PhinnFortcoty: there's something buggy with it... "[17186071.476000]  ide: failed opcode was: unknown"04:26
PhinnFortnico_: huh?04:26
Yorokobiluckyone, that card may be a bit too new ... I can't find anything on the madwifi site for it04:26
cotyPhinnFort: it worked when i had windows04:26
Yorokobiluckyone, you can always plug it in and see what happens :)04:27
luckyoneYorokobi: what 54G card would you recommend getting04:27
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nico_PhinnFort: my system acted verry strange after reboot, i got the load bar for booting and afterwards i saw it again and then it only gave errors about a camera thing04:27
Yorokobiluckyone, I use an older DLink G65004:27
luckyoneYorokobi: I plugged it in, I have a w-master00 and a wlan004:27
YorokobiI don't know if you can find that anymore04:27
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PhinnFortnico_: feisty?04:27
nico_PhinnFort: i had to recover xorg.conf to getr my system back running04:27
nico_yes04:27
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PhinnFortnico_: this is weird04:27
luckyoneYorokobi: I have that card in PCMIA format, I need usb or PCI for the desktop04:27
nico_and im already sick of feisty04:27
PhinnFortyou should try removing as much as possible from the xorg.conf04:27
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PhinnFortcan you paste it, and i'll look at it when I get back?04:28
PhinnFortor maybe someone else here?04:28
PhinnForti need to eat now...;)04:28
nico_ok04:28
nico_see you later04:28
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eeanmheh so don't update04:28
luckyoneeeam or don't run the beta...04:28
eeanmthe beta is fine04:29
nico_im sick of the beta already04:29
nico_nothing works good enough here04:29
Yorokobiluckyone, peruse http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility04:30
eeanmah well04:30
cotyPhinnFort: so what do i do with my hd04:30
eeanmsuspend works well for me now04:30
cotyphinnfort: i need it04:30
eeanmthat was the main reason I wanted to upgradee04:30
nico_coty: phinfort is out eating04:30
cotyoh04:30
cotyYorokobi: so can you tell me04:30
Yorokobicoty, is there nothing in /media/sdb ?04:30
cotynothing04:30
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cotyYorokobi: could it be that it is not reconized because i did not have it pluged in at start up04:32
nico_im gonna try another feisty install with the altrnate CD04:32
nico_eh Edgy04:32
Yorokobicoty, what interface is the drive? IDE? SATA? external SATA? USB?04:32
cotysata04:32
nico_what is installing a OEM thing04:33
luckyoneanother thing, what is the best graphical frontend for managing wireless in KDE?04:33
cotyi dont really know XD04:33
cotyhow would i know?04:33
Yorokobicoty, um ... yeah, try booting the computer with it already connected.04:33
nico_luckyone: wireless assistant04:33
cotyok04:33
cotyI'll do that as im done dumping my umd04:33
Daisuke_IdoKNetworkManager04:33
luckyonenico_: can wlassistant do WPA though?04:33
Yorokobiluckyone, or knetworkmanager (when it works)04:33
nico_yep04:33
nico_easy04:33
Daisuke_Idothis is ridiculous04:33
Daisuke_Idoberyl worked JUST fine yesterday.04:34
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Daisuke_Idono updates, no changes to my config, and today it white-screens me04:34
cotyDaisukd_Ido: it is buggy04:34
luckyonenico_: really, I must have an old version or something, mine only supports WEP04:34
Daisuke_Idono, REALLY?04:34
Daisuke_Idosorry04:34
cotyDaisuke_Ido: XD04:34
Daisuke_Idojust peeved04:34
nico_luckyone: you even get a wizzard when connecting to a network the first time and then it remembers the settings for example DHCP or static IP so you dont have to change that all the time04:34
Yorokobiluckyone, you have to use wpa_supplicant with wlassistant04:34
cotyDaisuke_Ido: : it does not work for me anyway04:34
Daisuke_Idoworked fine until whatever this is04:35
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luckyoneYorokobi: so you manually configure wpa_supplicant, then you can use wlassistant04:35
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Yorokobiluckyone, 1 part yes, 1 part no. Manually config wpa_supp, run it (or daemon it with -B) then use wlassistant04:36
luckyoneI have read some forums where people got the belkin usb dongle I have working with ndsiwrapper04:36
Yorokobior use knetworkmanager04:36
nico_Yorokobi: knetworkmanager has DHCP issues04:36
luckyonedoes knetworkmanager automatically configure wpa_supplicant04:36
cotyis there a program that can compress an iso into a cso04:37
Yorokobinico_, I know. Oh, how I know.04:37
nico_so Yorokobi, knetworkmanager sucks04:37
Yorokobinico_, it works well, when it works. I end up restarting my AP sometimes04:38
nico_:D04:38
nico_well im sick of feisty, im gonna wait for the real deal to come out04:38
nico_and then i'l upgrade04:38
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LjLmyself i wonder why knetworkmanager insists on choosing the *wrong* network interface, since i've got two04:39
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LjLi also wonder why it "chooses" at all, since both are configured statically and should stay that way >:04:39
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soulrideri cant understand why everyone is upgrading to feisty04:40
soulriderits a beta!04:40
soulriderjust wait a few more days until it comes out and you wont have any issued with it04:40
LjLhm, want to bet on that? :)04:41
Yorokobiand all us beta users won't either.04:41
cotydoes anyone know what i can use to edit my iso and save it as a cso04:41
nico_LjL: thats why wireless-assistant is so cool, it remembers wich networks use static and wich dynamic settings and when you select a network it automaticly switches and configure it04:41
soulriderLjL:  =/04:41
soulriderLjL: its gonna take longer ?04:41
knubbeid like to reinstall my laptop (its running kubuntu). i have backed up the things id like to keep. how do you suggest i continue from here?04:41
LjLsoulrider, feisty is beta, and anyone using it should know it's beta and it's got issues. but thinking every single issue will be solved once is released, that's a bit simplicistic04:42
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Yorokobisoulrider, feisty will probably need another 3 months to work out the kinks ... maybe more04:42
soulriderahh LjL i know that, but lots of bugs will be fixed04:42
LjLnico_, maybe, but for starters i don't have wireless, and anyway i'd like whatever comes *with* ubuntu to not garble my network settings ;)04:42
nico_ooh ok04:42
nico_:p04:42
cotyYorokobi: do you know of a iso compresser04:42
soulriderso feisty isnt gonna be that great after all ?04:42
Yorokobiknubbe, download an ISO and re-install04:42
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nico_soulrider: it's gonna be great, but there has to be done some work first04:43
Yorokobicoty, I do not, unless you want to gzip it04:43
cotyno04:43
cotylike make it a cso04:43
LjLsoulrider, not sure this one i'm talking about is even considered a "bug"... actually, i haven't quite understood what network-manager means by "selecting an interface". i mean - my /etc/network/interfaces lists two interfaces, both statically configured, and *working* with that configuration. i haven't got a clue why network-manager would decide one interface is being used, and the other isn't04:43
soulrideras we speak im installing arch :P well, its installed im just installing GNOME04:43
LjLit just shouldn't override whatever i set in /e/n/i04:43
knubbeYorokobi: ok, thanks04:43
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Yorokobicoty, http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ISO+-+DAX+-+CSO+Converter?content=4967404:44
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cotythanks04:44
soulriderLjL: i think im like the only one who has had better hardware experiences in ubuntu than in wondows :P04:44
Yorokobicoty, you may want to check the repositories for that program04:44
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cotyi am04:44
soulrideri have hardware that works better in linux than in windows04:44
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Yorokobicoty, oh, and thank google :)04:44
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cotylol04:44
cotyYorokobi: i have been looking for one on adept04:45
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LjLsoulrider, my hardware works fine in ubuntu - well, except for the kernel that needs noapic -, this is totally a software problem. (ok, all hardware problems are software problems, but here the network driver itself is working fine)04:45
soulridercoty: program to do that ?04:45
soulriderfor me too LjL04:45
LjLi bet if i just purge network-manager everything will work as it should, but it should work without doing that04:45
cotyyes04:45
cotyi need my umd games for my psp that i dumped into an iso to be compress to fit on my memory stick04:46
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soulridercoty: isnt that illegal? :P04:46
Yorokobisoulrider, not if he bought the games04:46
cotyno04:46
cotynot if you own them04:46
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cotythere called backups04:46
Yorokobibut what's the point? If you have the UMD, why put it on a memory stick ?04:47
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soulrideri dont really care anyways, i </3 sony, so you can steal from them asll you want as far as im concerned04:47
YorokobiUMD will last longer that flash (over time)04:47
soulriderwhats UMD?04:47
Yorokobis/that/than/ ^^04:47
cotylol04:47
cotywell....04:47
coty.....04:47
cotysome times04:47
cotywhen i dont have money at the tiem04:47
cotytime04:47
YorokobiUMD is the itty-bitty optical disk PSPs use04:47
Flare183does anyone know how to make gtk application look like kde applications04:48
cotybut i end up paying for htem04:48
soulriderYorokobi: havnt seen any PSPs in my life :P04:48
cotyumd stands for unerversal media disk04:48
YorokobiFlare183, :) Gnome04:48
cotythey hold 1.8 gb04:48
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BluesKajforgotten how to add minimized windows to the panel ... installed the new kernel and upgraded kde04:48
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soulriderBluesKaj: the application list applet ?04:48
Flare183I am using KDE right now, I have just switched from gnome and i want to know how to make them look like KDE applications04:49
soulriderflare, i dont think youy can make GTK apps look like QT apps04:49
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YorokobiFlare183, there's an option in the Display settings for tweaking GTK apps but its kinda iffy04:49
BluesKajno, when you minimize a browser or app page , it doesn't minimize to the panel04:49
YorokobiBluesKaj, I think soulrider had it. You need to add the app list applet to the panel04:50
soulriderBluesKaj: where does it minimize to? =/04:50
YorokobiIts called Taskbar in the applets menu04:50
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soulriderBluesKaj: or you mean the tray? like when you close amarok, it just sits on the tray04:51
BluesKajit minimizes to menubar art the top , but doesn't show the icon , which i prefer04:51
Jucatosoulrider, Flare183: Kubuntu comes with a GTK2 engine that tries to mimic KDE/Qt widget styles.04:51
soulriderJucato: i had no idea04:52
BluesKajsoulrider , yes the tray thepanel or whatever it's supposed to be called04:52
aaroncampbellI switched back to my bluetooth kb/mouse (couldn't use it during install).  As soon as I plugged in the USB key, it worked great.  Now, everytime I reboot, I have to unplug the usb key, and plug it back in before the KB or mouse work04:52
Jucatosoulrider, Flare183: the control for it is in System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK+ Style and Fonts04:52
Flare183i don't really want that i just want to get rid of gnome all togetther04:52
cotyhow do i install this app04:53
soulriderFlare183: just use QT apps then04:53
JucatoFlare183: what do you mean? it has nothing to do w/ GNOME except that it tries to make GTK/GNOME apps look like KDE apps. isn't that what you're asking for?04:53
soulridercoty: what app ?04:53
nico_does anyone know what a OEM install is at the alternate CD?04:53
jervineFlare183: so which GNOME apps did you want to make look like KDE? there might well be suitable KDE alternatives?04:53
Flare183nevermind i figured it out04:53
JucatoBluesKaj: right-click on the Panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> look for Taskbar?04:53
nico_!OEM04:54
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues04:54
Jucatoabattoir: ^^^^^04:54
abattoirnico_: it's meant for vendor/companies who sell pcs with kubuntu pre-installed04:54
soulrider:O abattoir is here, i havnt seen you in a while...04:55
abattoirhi soulrider :)04:55
abattoiryeah, busy with exams :(04:55
soulrideraww :(04:55
nico_abattoir: what's the best way to get a basic kubuntu system04:55
Jucatosoulrider: you need to open your eyes more :)04:55
soulrideri got one on wed next week, i need to start studying04:55
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abattoirnico_: depends on what you mean by 'basic' really04:56
Yorokobicoty, the install instructions are on the page I gave you04:56
YorokobiGood luck04:56
abattoirnico_: a typical livecd install gives you a 'basic' kubuntu installation04:56
nico_abattoir: not to much software, just enoug to get going. the other stuff i need can be installed later04:56
soulriderJucato: indeed :P04:57
soulriderdamn, my friend just messaged me saying his kubuntu installation locks up after 10 minutes of use04:57
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roothello04:57
Jucatonico_: the Desktop/Live CD or the default installation on the Alternate Install CD does exactly that. a basic installation. basic desktop stuff04:57
abattoirnico_: i'd say kubuntu is pretty lean, considering some distros come with 3 or more cds04:58
nico_abattoir: that's tru04:58
nico_e04:58
nico_abattoir: what about SuSe: 5CD's, Fedora core 5 or 604:58
abattoirsoulrider: best of luck for your exams :)04:58
Yorokobinico_, that's when you get the DVD ISO :)04:58
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rootwhen i run my system (kubuntu) the kde desktop start automatic i want to make my system start only console04:58
soulriderto you to abattoir04:58
abattoirnico_: each have their own audience, advantages etc.04:59
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rootand i will start kde by type (startkde) or startx04:59
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Yorokobiroot, put 'exit 0' on the 2nd line of /etc/init.d/kdm04:59
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nico_im gonna install edgy now05:00
nico_feisty is not stable enough yet05:00
rootin my system i dont have kdm in the /etc/init.d05:01
rootwhat to do ??05:01
soulridercan snyone think of a reason why my kubuntu installation used 17 mb or swap all the time ?05:01
Yorokobiroot, what about gdm ?05:01
soulriderroot: gdm ?05:01
nico_see you later05:01
rooti dont have gdm too05:02
rooti have ldm05:02
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Yorokobiroot ... um, xdm ?05:02
rootno05:02
Yorokobiroot, ldm then05:03
Yorokobichange ldm05:03
Yorokobi!ldm05:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ldm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:03
rootldm is default-display-manager ???05:04
Yorokobiroot, are you making X connections via SSH?05:04
Yorokobiroot, yes ldm is a (k|d|x)dm alternative05:04
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Yorokobildm is an X11 display manager similar to xdm, gdm and kdm, but unlike those it wraps the X11 traffic within an ssh tunnel to provide a secure login mechanism for remote X sessions.  ldm provides access only through SSH, not locally. It is technically possible to use ldm to connect to the same host, but probably a waste of CPU power.05:04
charlesHKGMy screen resolution went from 1600 X 1280 to 640 X 480 and I cant change the resolution to what it should be.  no new Hardware, the video card is ok, as windows resolution is still 1600 X 1280.....hElP05:05
rootnow i did i can edit ldm ??05:05
rootor not05:05
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Yorokobiroot, sudo (vim|nano|pico|emacs) /etc/init.d/ldm05:05
rootYorokobi can i edit ldm ??05:05
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rootnow i open ldm but i have in the end exit 005:06
rootwhat to do ??05:07
Yorokobiroot, add it to line #205:07
Yorokobiline #1: #!/bin/sh05:07
Yorokobiline #2: exit 005:07
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Yorokobileave the rest alone05:07
rootnow i have to restart my computer05:08
Yorokobiroot, nope05:08
rooti will back05:08
rootwhat ?05:08
Yorokobiroot, sudo pkill ldm05:08
Yorokobior 'ps wax | grep ldm' then sudo kill -9 <pid>05:08
eagles0513875i need a flac decoder for amarok05:08
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charlesHKGMy screen resolution went from 1600 X 1280 to 640 X 480 and I cant change the resolution to what it should be.  no new Hardware, the video card is ok, as windows resolution is still 1600 X 1280.....hElP05:10
Yorokobieagles0513875, do an adept/synaptic/dselect search for libflac05:10
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rootsudo: unable to lookup PhpHack via gethostbyname()05:10
rootwhat to do ??05:10
eagles0513875ty Yorokobi05:10
Yorokobieagles0513875, and liboggflac305:10
Yorokobiroot, what is PhpHack? your login name or the computer's host name?05:11
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Yorokobi!fixres | charlesHKG05:12
ubotucharlesHKG: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:12
eagles0513875those didnt work05:12
eagles0513875i just tried to play the file in amarok and it says there is no available decoder05:12
Yorokobieagles0513875, which engine are you using?05:13
eagles0513875what u mean05:13
eagles0513875im using the latest version of amarok05:13
eagles0513875i am using amarok 1.4.505:13
charlesHKGthanks ubotu05:13
Yorokobieagles0513875, 1s05:13
eagles0513875?05:13
PF-Awayeagles0513875: go to amarok settings05:13
PF-Awayeagles0513875: engine05:13
eagles0513875ok05:13
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eagles0513875ok im there05:14
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eagles0513875im using the xine engine05:14
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Yorokobieagles0513875, do you have libxine-extracodecs installed ?05:14
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eagles0513875i believe so05:14
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eagles0513875the extra codecs r installed05:15
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eagles0513875yet its still not workin05:16
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rootYorokobi thank you very very very much05:18
rootyou are the best05:18
Yorokobino prob, root05:18
rootreally you help me a lot05:18
rootnow when i start my system the first thing start console05:18
rootbut when i type"startx" the kde starting automatic05:19
rootcan i staxt x non start kde05:19
root??????????05:19
eagles0513875Yorokobi: what other decoders r there that will work with amarok05:19
dwidmannin my experience startx always worked much more consistently than than startkde05:19
eagles0513875cuz flac decoder still isnt showing up05:20
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Yorokobieagles0513875, honestly, I'm not sure. I always convert flac to mp3 when I get them05:20
rootYorokobi but i have kde and gnome05:20
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rootand want to start x at the first after this i start kde or gnome05:21
eagles0513875so should i encode as mp3s with bit rate 320 and smapling at 48,00005:21
dwidmanneagles0513875: you can't play flac in amarok ... well, you might be able to with a patch05:21
dwidmannI'm not sure, but I looked into that the other day05:21
Yorokobiroot, you'll want a display manager to pick and choose ... or modify your .xinitrc manually every time :)05:21
dwidmanneagles0513875: The folks in #amarok might know05:21
eagles0513875ty dwidmann05:21
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Yorokobieagles0513875, how about that. Amarok does not play flac05:22
eagles0513875it says no available decoder05:22
Yorokobioh, dwidmann beat me to it (again :)05:23
eagles0513875Yorokobi: should i convert them to high quality mp3s05:23
eagles0513875320 bitrate 48000 sampling05:23
dwidmanneagles0513875: you could always use ogg :P05:23
Yorokobieagles0513875, amarok does play mp3s so ...05:23
eagles0513875i have them in ogg right now and audio quality suxs balls05:23
Yorokobieagles0513875, or try XMMS05:23
eagles0513875ok Yorokobi ill do mp3s05:24
eagles0513875xmms??05:24
eagles0513875!xmms05:24
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs05:24
dwidmanneagles0513875: use quality 6+ with ogg, the quality is nice05:24
eagles0513875i think im going to stick with mp3s05:24
Ash-Foxthe mp4 audio support in xmms is rather buggy.05:24
dwidmannThe "blade" mp3 codec is very nice for archiving also05:24
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Yorokobieagles0513875, http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/play-flac-files-in-amarok-on-ubuntu/05:25
Yorokobiif you really want to play flac in amarok05:25
eagles0513875ty Yorokobi05:25
eagles0513875im goign to convert to high quality mp3s05:25
roothow to connect using user name and password by pppoe ??05:25
Yorokobi!pppoe05:25
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE05:25
eagles0513875mp4 isnt that rather itunes specific05:27
jkkjHi all! I know nano supports syntax highlighting but it wob't highlight anything i open. Do i need to do anything special to get this working on kubuntu ?05:28
LjLjkkj, do you really *want* to? nano's syntax highlighting is so slow... =)05:28
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sampanweird, my amarok plays flac files fine without that patch.  is that for edgy or feisty?05:28
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Ryiel!bluetooth05:28
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup05:28
LjLjkkj: anyway, yeah, you need to do some things to enable it, though right now i don't quite remember what. i'll check05:28
jkkjLjL: Well i would at least like to try it :)05:29
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ubuntuYorokobi:05:29
eagles0513875edgy samp05:29
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ubuntuhelp05:29
ubuntume05:29
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ubuntui am a conanicalian05:30
Yorokobiubuntu, whazzup ?05:30
sampaneagles0513875  odd ... i remember trying to help someone who couldn't get flac working in flac a couple weeks ago and giving up because it "just worked" for me :X  nice to know there's a patch for this when it crops up05:30
ubuntuhi05:30
eagles0513875what kinda patch05:30
eagles0513875and where05:30
sampanerrr couldn't get flac working in amarok -- too early in the morning05:30
rootthe pppoe working in all kde desktops but in gnome (ubuntu) dont work05:30
Yorokobiconanicalian ... so many possibilities with that word05:30
sampaneagles0513875   http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/play-flac-files-in-amarok-on-ubuntu/05:30
rootthe software work but i dont have connection05:30
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dec_does anyone know of a good easy to use c++ developer tool I am using kdevelop and i am having some problems05:31
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rootthe best c++ console develop package is gcc05:32
sampaneagles0513875  but maybe that patch is for dapper?  just checked the forum post link he gives and it's pretty old.  even stranger05:32
eagles0513875ok05:32
rootand the best visual c++ packages is qt405:32
dec_is qt4 available from synaptics05:32
MK_MikeHey All, if i'm runing a termanal program how can like make it go into the background?05:33
YorokobiMK_Mike, add & to the end of the command05:33
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rootdec_ i dont uderstand you05:33
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Yorokobidec_, are you looking for an IDE?05:34
dec_yes an ide05:34
Yorokobieclipse is okay05:34
YorokobiVim has some good plugins for C++05:34
sebbarhi, I've got an mp3 player which gets mounted but when I try to delete a song it says the filesystem was mounted read only so how do I mount it with rw permissions?05:35
eagles0513875what mp3 encoder and decoder do i need to download05:35
ubuntuDoes mozilla have their own distro?05:35
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dec_thank you I will try05:35
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rootdec_ try qt designer05:35
Admiral_Chicagoubuntu: not at all05:35
Yorokobieagles0513875, lame is a decent encoder05:35
eagles0513875ok what bout decoder05:35
rootdec_ http://packages.debian.org/stable/devel/qt3-designer05:36
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dec_i just installed qt4 and now i cannot find it to run it is not under development05:37
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abattoirdec_: did you install qt4-designer?05:39
dec_yes05:39
abattoirdec_: try Alt+F2 and enter designer05:39
eagles0513875what thing do i need for mp3 replay gain05:39
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dec_abattoir that did it it is up, do I have to do that all the time to open the program05:40
rootdec_ see near the red leds (in debian packages website) this packages you have to install it before you install qt designer05:41
abattoirdec_: i'd expect it to be in the menus, wonder what went wrong05:41
abattoirdec_: installed it through adept?05:41
dec_i used synaptics to install it05:41
rootwhat is synaptics ??05:42
dec_package manager for kde05:42
abattoir!synaptic | root05:42
uboturoot: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto05:42
Jucatoit's not for KDE though05:42
abattoirdec_: adept is what kubuntu uses by default05:42
dec_whats not for kde - qt405:42
abattoirdec_: kynaptic is it's 'equivalent' for KDE05:42
rootaaa ok05:42
eagles0513875Yorokobi: what pkg do i download for mp3 replay gain05:43
dec_how do i install kynaptic05:43
abattoirdec_: i'd recommend giving adept a try first though, if you haven't already done so05:43
LjL!info kynaptic05:43
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ubotuPackage kynaptic does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas05:43
LjLdec_: afraid you don't, use Adept05:43
abattoirdec_: since it's already installed05:43
Admiral_Chicagoeagles0513875: libxine-extracodecn05:43
LjLkynaptic is quite outdated i think05:43
Yorokobieagles0513875, for what? Amarok? XMMS? Banshee? I think libxine-extracodecs is all you need for amarok05:43
matzetake synaptic05:43
dec_i suppose i will just use at f2 to use it for now05:44
eagles0513875no for soundkonverter05:44
eagles0513875its for soundkonverter Yorokobi05:44
abattoirdec_: you could also create a desktop shortcut/panel shortcut if you want to05:44
Yorokobieagles0513875, I've not used that before05:44
eagles0513875anyone use sound konverter before05:44
dec_i will try that thank you all05:44
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ranjani use a kommander script for sound / media conversion05:45
pjesican someone tell me why I cannot control the cpu level as in other districutions with kde?05:45
eagles0513875ok05:45
eagles0513875nm now its saying built in05:46
Yorokobipjesi, control how?05:46
eagles0513875i think he wants to control cpu frequency05:46
Yorokobilaptop or desktop?05:46
ranjankommander script media conversion : http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+media+converter?content=5355505:46
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pjesiYorokobi: for instance run on less mhz, pentium-m05:47
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Yorokobipjesi, laptop then? There should be a battery icon in the systray. Right-click and there'll be an option (somewhere :)) that'll let you set the frequency to dynamic05:47
Yorokobior to whatever you want05:48
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pjesiYorokobi: well that is how is should be, but it is not05:48
pjesiit only offers suspend, hibernate, restore and quit05:48
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Yorokobipjesi, no options?05:49
pjesino05:49
eagles0513875to enable mp3 support in amarok what pkg do i download05:49
Yorokobipjesi, feisty, edgy, dapper? or older?05:49
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Daisuke_Idoeagles0513875: libxine-extracodecs05:49
eagles0513875i have that installed and its still not happy05:49
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Daisuke_Idolibmad005:50
eagles0513875?>05:50
Daisuke_Idoshould have been installed with libxine-extracodecs though05:50
pjesiedgy05:50
eagles0513875ok ill check05:50
Daisuke_Idoyou will need to restart amarok though05:50
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eagles0513875ahhh ok then ill restart it05:51
supernixwhich apache server do you recommend the 2.0 or the older one ?05:51
eagles0513875its workin05:51
eagles0513875lol its funny how alot of the problems r so stupid and simple ones05:51
cotycan someone tell me how i would mount a new hd05:51
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pjesiYorokobi: I http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/9489/ff7jb1.png05:52
cotyI'm not sure it is reconized05:52
cotyYorokobi: i restarted the computer05:52
Yorokobipjesi, use Restore05:52
varaonaidhi, I'm trying to run the livedvd of kubuntu 6.10 and it won't boot into x.  It seems to have problems loading the bcm43xx mod or something and gives those errors but eventually just goes to command prompt.05:52
Yorokobithat should really be relabeled to Options05:53
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varaonaidI really want to try it out, any suggestions?05:53
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pjesiYorokobi: well they dont include any options to control the cpu05:53
cotyis dvd drive first in bios boot05:53
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pjesionly what to do when the lid is closed and what to do when battery is empty05:53
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varaonaidyes, I get the boot options and such, I chose typical startup (first on the list)05:54
Yorokobipjesi, I guess I upgraded my laptop to feisty too early :)05:54
cotythen what happens it just goes to command prompt?05:54
YorokobiThe feisty one has CPU frequency options05:54
Yorokobivaraonaid, SLI ??05:54
pjesiYorokobi: ok that is great, too bad I cant upgrate atm05:54
varaonaidyes, it tries to boot twice, I see the kubuntu logo then the bcm errors, then the logo again then the prompt05:55
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cotyvaraonaid: maybe it is a disk problem05:55
varaonaidYorokibi: I don't know what SLI is, sorry05:55
pjesistill sucks, have been using this in other distros for over a year05:55
Yorokobipjesi, sorry ... maybe someone else here has a laptop with edgy ??05:55
cotyvaraonaid: run the disk check05:55
Yorokobivaraonaid, that answers my question :)05:55
varaonaidOK, is that in the boot options?05:56
cotyyes05:56
varaonaidYorokobi: not sure how that answered it but that's good :)05:56
pjesiand yes, they should definitely change it to Option, restore makes no sense05:57
cotyvaraonaid: when you get to the menu and you see run underneath you should see disk check05:57
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varaonaidcoty: thanks.  I'll do that05:57
cotyok05:57
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cotyvaraonaid: is this on a second computer you have05:58
Yorokobi!sli > yorokobi05:59
varaonaidno, the one I'm currently using, why?05:59
cotybecause you have not loged out05:59
cotyXD05:59
varaonaidyeah, I'm about to.  I'll bbiab.06:00
cotyok06:00
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frojndSetting up nvidia-glx (1.0.9755+2.6.20.4-13.14) ..    I've upgraded packages and looks like nvidia-glx is also upgraded or does that mean that only package got newr version and I have to install the new package nvidia-glx by myself?06:04
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frojndand why the ** system works so sloow after I upgraded!?!?06:05
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Yorokobifrojnd, if 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' says you already have the newest version then its installed06:06
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rob__hello everybody06:06
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dwidmannfrojnd: should have upgrade fine, you're running feisty right?06:07
dwidmann*upgraded06:07
frojndthis is annoying... my system works alot slower than before sudo apt-get upgrade, despite there wasn't any erors..06:07
frojnddwidmann: feisty yes06:07
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manu_hi06:09
rob__im a ubuntu dapper user with a kubuntu-desktop installed06:09
manu_i have no sound with my tv tuner card, somone knows the reason?06:09
manu_the picture is fine06:09
billytwowillydapper. old school.06:09
rob__i like it06:10
BluesKajmanu, ATI card ?06:10
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manu_BluesKaj: nvidia06:10
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rob__most stable OS ive ever seen06:10
manu_BluesKaj:  graphics card nvidia tv median, phillips chip06:10
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BluesKajthen yer in luck06:11
BluesKaj!nvidia06:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:11
BluesKaj!nvidea-tv06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidea-tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
BluesKaj!nvidia-tv06:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-tv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:12
rob__does anybody know how to fix this >>>> warzone2100: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by /usr/lib/libphysfs-1.0.so.1)06:12
Daisuke_Idoit's funny how "old school" now refers to something less than a year old06:12
manu_BluesKaj: i've allready 3d support installed,, but kopete e.g. freezes sometimes with webcam...06:13
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BluesKajmanu , there are tv tuner help sites on the net , most video help here is for graphics cards ..tv tuner cards are too specific for general help here, in most cases06:15
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tictricHi folks, having a look at feisty. How do I get rid of that desktop search icon in the taskbar? I'm already using kerry.06:15
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manu_BluesKaj: hm ok thx and do you know why my whole system freezes sometimes with webcam & kopete? i had it 2 times06:16
BluesKajmanu , no I'm sorry ... Yorokobi ?06:17
varaonaidhi, I'm back.  the disc check showed no problems. 0 checksums failed.06:17
YorokobiI have no idea.06:17
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Yorokobimanu_,  you may want to google it and see if some of the support forums have any suggestions06:18
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crubeWhat's the command for running .run files?06:18
YorokobiTry the Ubuntu wiki, too (wiki.ubuntu.com)06:18
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Yorokobicrube, try 'file <therunfile.run> and paste back the results06:19
manu_Yorokobi: as i can remeber i had with nvidia 3d and kubuntu never a hard freeze (whole system) but since today with my installed webcam :(06:19
blueyedDoes somebody also use beryl and can test, if selecting "Log out..." in the KDE menu works? The action dialog with the buttons gets hidden here.06:19
crubeYorokobi: "ufoai-2.1-linux.run: Bourne shell script text executable"06:19
Yorokobicrube, 'sh ufoai-2.1-linux.run'06:19
crubeYorokobi: Alright, thanks :)06:19
manu_Yorokobi: have you ever heared something abot this? i thought freezes with nvidia isnt possible^^ (my old ati card made because of the driver kernel panics)06:19
Yorokobimanu_, the freeze seems to be the province of the webcam, yesno?06:20
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manu_Yorokobi: 99%06:20
manu_yes06:20
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mauro!xorg06:21
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:21
YorokobiIs the webcam listed as compatible with Linux (or the 2.6 kernel)? and/or with Kopete?06:21
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Yorokobivaraonaid, is your wifi a PCI card, PCMCIA or integrated?06:22
varaonaidintegrated into my laptop06:22
jhutchinsHeh, I just got spam on undernet to join the Romanian nvidia channel.06:23
Yorokobivaraonaid, well, I don't see why X would be crashing because of the wifi card ... what does the /var/log/Xorg.0.log say (look at the bottom for EE entries)06:23
Yorokobi!pastebin06:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:24
Yorokobivaraonaid, or paste the log to ^^06:24
varaonaidYorokobi: how do I get to view  that file during the startup?06:24
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Yorokobivaraonaid, during startup? that's tricky but possible ... does X start at all ?06:24
jhutchinsvaraonaid: Edit the boot command to eliminate "splash" and "quiet"/06:25
jhutchins.06:25
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stonerrob420yo06:25
cotyI just read some were about updating the bios06:25
varaonaidYorokobi: no, X doesn't start.  I end up at the ubuntu prompt06:25
cotyhow would i do that06:25
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jhutchinscoty: You need the bios update file from the manufacturer of your motherboard, and the bios flash utility from them as well. It will usually only run in DOS.06:26
cotyoh06:26
jhutchinscoty: It's a really good idea to do it though.06:26
cotyso were would i get this06:26
jhutchinscoty: You can get dos boot floppy/cd images on the 'net.06:26
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cotyok06:26
jhutchinscoty: From the manufacturer's web site.06:26
cotywhich one06:26
cotyintel06:27
cotyor emacine06:27
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cotycant speel06:27
cotyspell06:27
cotyXD06:27
jhutchinscoty: Asus is notorious for shipping motherboards with early bioses that need to be update.06:27
YorokobiDoes anyone know if the livecd version of exim is set to mail to outside (not just local delivery)?06:27
jhutchinscoty: Motherboard, not PC.  Intell?06:27
cotylol06:27
jhutchinscoty: Also not CPU.06:27
cotyhow do i know who made my motherboard06:27
cotyok06:28
varaonaidbiab06:28
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jhutchinscoty: It might display something when it starts to boot, you might need to look at the motherboard in the case, or you might need to check with eMachines. eMachines MIGHT also have the updates for your model.06:28
cotyok06:29
jhutchinsYou will need the EXACT model number, and it's a good idea to have the serial number of the bios from when it starts to boot.06:29
cotyso it is a good idea to update06:29
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jhutchinsYou can usually pause the boot process at that point with the "Pause (Break)" key.06:29
manu_Yorokobi: it is compatible with spca5xx and i loaded the module with modprobe, kopete shows the nme of the camera aiptek slim3200 and all is fine till the freeze06:29
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blueyedIs somebody using beryl+Feisty here?!06:29
just-this-timemake it 2 jhutchins06:30
Yorokobiblueyed, yep06:30
Yorokobimanu_, I'd search around with google and the ubuntu wikis/forums06:30
blueyedYorokobi: does "Log out..." in the KDE menu work? I mean: do you see the action buttons? With me, they get hidden and I have to press Escape to get back from the greyed out screen.06:30
jhutchinsjust-this-time: Sorry, you'll have to make another pot, I got the last of it.06:31
manu_Yorokobi: searched a lot... :(06:31
cotyI dont see anywere on the motherboard on how made it06:31
YorokobiAs far as I know. Now that I think about it ... I haven't restarted/logged out since I got beryl working06:31
blueyedI have not found a bug report about this yet and it would be nice if somebody could confirm this.06:31
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Yorokobiblueyed, Xgl or AIGLX ?06:32
knubbedo you recommend me to install swiftfox via their installation script or should i add their apt repository?06:32
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blueyedYorokobi: force-aiglx, because of the nvidia black window bug.06:33
blueyedYorokobi: does the "Log out..." dialog work for you?06:33
Yorokobiblueyed, AIGLX is built-in to Xorg with feisty ... I couldn't get Xgl to work06:33
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Yorokobiblueyed, if NX supported Xgl/AIGLX then I could test it but I'm at work and my feisty box is at home06:34
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blueyedYorokobi: ah, ok.06:34
blueyedSomeone else here using Feisty + Beryl?06:34
blueyed(currently :)06:34
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Yorokobiblueyed, have you checked the beryl-project.org forums?06:36
nico_and i'm BACK06:36
crubeblueyed: Yeah. I'm using Feisty+Beryl and it's working great06:36
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fuel!codeblocks06:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about codeblocks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:37
fuelis code blocks available in repository ?06:37
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nico__hm almost everything then :p06:38
blueyedcrube: Can you please check the "Log out..." dialog in the KDE menu? Are the buttons visible to you after the screen got grey? (use Escape to come back, if the buttons are not visible anymore)06:38
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crubeblueyed: Visible06:38
nico__does someone know how to upgrade to the latest KDE version?06:39
blueyedcrube: thanks. Then I have to figure out why it gets hidden here.. :) Are you using nvidia-binary driver?06:39
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Yorokobinico__, edgy or feisty ?06:39
nico__edgy06:39
nico__thank goodness06:39
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Yorokobinico__, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php06:40
crubeblueyed: No. I have an integrated graphic card, and I didn't have to install any graphic drivers, so it might be your drivers.06:40
nico__tnx06:40
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nico__they sure were not joking when they were talking about the 'ubuntu community'06:41
nico__much support here06:42
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blueyedcrube: now I've changed the window decorator from Aquamarine to GTK window decorator and back to Aquamarine and the dialog stays visible. Strange.06:42
Yorokobiblueyed, try emerald instead of aquamarine06:43
Yorokobiif its a decoration issue06:43
Yorokobi<-- never had success with aquamarine06:43
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inteliwaspyl06:44
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nico__w00t upgrading to the latest06:44
nico__KDE06:44
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Yorokobi!ro > Yorokobi06:48
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blueyedYorokobi: it now works also with Aquamarine.. I just had to toggle it.06:48
andreas_Hallo und einen schnen guten Tag zusammen06:48
wolferinehow do I use/install sshd in server editition?06:48
Yorokobiblueyed, congrats06:49
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Yorokobiwolferine, install: 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'06:49
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wolferinetx06:50
AcidBurnin feisty did they fix the wireless driver issues.. with Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller ?06:50
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eagles0513875supposidly06:51
eagles0513875but for me it didnt work06:51
jhutchinsAcidBurn: They might know in #ubuntu+106:51
trentonHrm, here's a dumb quick question. How do I go about deleting the "Cool-Streams" folder under the Radio Streams playlist in Amarok?06:51
jhutchinstrenton: #amarok might know.  I'm not sure you can.06:51
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trentonjhutchins: Ah I see, now I don't feel as stupid :)   ...Thanks06:52
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jhutchinsOk, supposedly my ancient Radeon 7000 is supported, I'm going to try beryl.06:54
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varaonaidjust for kicks I tried to boot the live cd of ubuntu 7.04.  I got more errors and x still wouldn't start.  I was able to get a few error messages when it allowed me to view them:06:58
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varaonaid(WW) I810: No matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found06:58
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varaonaid(EE) I810(0): No video BIOS modes found for chosen depth06:59
varaonaid(EE) Screen(s) found but none have a usable configuration06:59
varaonaidFatal screen error: no screens found.06:59
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trentonvaraonaid: Did you check the md5sum of the cd before you used it?07:00
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varaonaidthe weird thing is that when I viewed the xorg file which it allowed, it correctly detected my inted 950 graphics chip and the correct resolution of 1400x90007:00
varaonaidtrenton: yes, md5summed the iso and checked the cd for problems through the boot menu07:01
varaonaidI couldn't get it to md5sum the actual burn, though07:01
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trentonvaraonaid: That might be a bad sign... Did you use K3b to burn it? It should have checked it for you.07:02
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trentonvaraonaid: You can also check it manually... Lemme look real quick what the command is.07:03
varaonaidno, I used nero in windows.  then I ued md5summer to check the iso.  when i try to check the cd, it no longer sees the iso image but rather all the individual files.  I didn't think it would work then to check all those files for the md5sum07:03
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gdiebelvaraonaid: check this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/i915Driver07:04
geniivaraonaid: There is an option on the cd itself when you boot it to "check the CD"07:05
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geniivaraonaid: If the md5 sum before you burned the iso was good and no error msgs while making it odds are it's fine07:06
trentonAhh, well yeah I forgot about the cd being able to check itself.07:06
varaonaidso is the 915res not included with edgy?  I know that when I tried to boot feisty, it loaded the 915res, detected the correct graphics chip and 1400x900 res07:06
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tictricafter upgrade to feisty I have no cd or dvd drives and k3b doesn't see them either. How can I fix that?07:06
varaonaidbut I've tried dapper, edgy (kubuntu), and feisty, and none of them will boot into X.  I don't have an unusual laptop, it's a dell e140507:07
geniiAny Dell is unusual to Linux LOL07:07
genii(at least for the moment)07:07
varaonaidone of the ubuntu "child" distros boots perfectly but I want to try the "original".  it has a newer kernel07:07
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strog_hi guys07:11
strog_how can i restore my start menu07:11
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strog_u know where all the program shortcuts are?07:11
BonBonTheJonstrog_: you can edit the menu07:11
strog_but not restore the menu back to default?07:12
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BonBonTheJonstrog_: not that I know, there is a package that will set up the menu, something like debian-menu07:12
eeanmstrog_: try mv ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker /tmp07:13
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eeanmand then07:13
strog_so search from something  "debian-menu"07:13
eeanmdcop kicker kicker restart07:13
eeanmthat may or may not work :)07:13
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t-raxhi07:14
t-raxfriends07:14
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victor_hi all! I've got a problem since i've installed xgl. My shutdown (and other) buttons have dissapeared. I've followed the instructions in beryl wiki, but i cannot recover them07:16
neofoxhallo07:16
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BonBonTheJon!de | neofox07:17
neofox!de??? O.o was heist das??07:17
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LjL!de | neofox07:18
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wolferinewhat is the most logical way to share dirs on my ubuntu server box with my GUI box?07:19
wolferinesamba?07:19
wolferineor nfs07:19
BonBonTheJonwolferine: if they are both linux, nfs is good07:19
ubotuneofox: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:19
wolferineok, and how do I enable a shared folder in a cli ?07:20
wolferineor is there an nfs.conf to edit?07:20
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BonBonTheJonwolferine: on the server, you need to edit /etc/exports07:20
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victor_anybody knows how to get those buttons back?07:20
BonBonTheJonwolferine: look for a tutorial, I dont remember off the top of my head07:20
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Mirrakordoes the kubuntu liveCD automatically set up the network while booting?07:21
BonBonTheJonMirrakor: it should07:21
BluedogMirrakor: yup07:21
BluedogIf it can07:21
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Mirrakora generic eth device should be able?07:22
wolferinecan I mount the dir remotely? (using nfs)07:22
BluedogYup, It worked fine with my onboard LAN07:22
BonBonTheJonwolferine: yes, the client will mount the share07:22
Mirrakorit's a PCI card, will that cause any troubles?07:22
BluedogMirrakor: I doubt it :) To be certain, look up the model number perhaps on google07:23
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LeeJunFanwolferine: man exports and man mount will be your friends with nfs, remember to run sudo exportfs -va after changing exports.07:25
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nico_hello all07:25
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nico_i need some help with compiling a progtram07:26
jhutchinswolferine: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo07:26
gvegashi nico what's the matter?07:26
nico_when i do ./configure i get the error configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check07:27
jhutchinsnico_: Have you searched thoroughly for a .deb package for it?07:27
nico_yep cant find it07:27
jhutchins!build | nico_07:27
ubotunico_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)07:27
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jhutchinsnico_: Sounds like you might have a package meant for a different architecture.07:27
nico_aah ok07:28
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wolferinethanks jhutchins07:29
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jhutchinsGlad to help.07:30
geniinico_ What is the program you are trying to compile?07:30
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cotyis there a programe that can read prx extentions'07:30
nico_domino, a theme program from kde-look.org07:30
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nico_btw, feisty really has driver issues, installed edgy and everything works again07:31
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knubbe-im trying to install mysql-query-browser, but apt wants to install of gnome-related packages. are those necessary for mysql-query-browser to run?07:38
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knubbe-"..but apt wants to install some gnome-related.."07:39
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supernixanyone know which is the best FTP server for running on Kubuntu ?07:41
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supernixI have heard of proftp not sure if it is the best though07:41
geniinico_: Weird, a Dapper deb exists but not Edgy yet it appears07:41
nico_ok07:42
nico_perhaps i can try the dapper one07:42
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frojndE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.   How can I fix this?!07:43
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nico_genii: where can i find the deb07:43
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geniinico_ I'm not sure I'd try installing it on Edgy :) But if you want to try07:43
nico_:p07:43
geniihttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino+for+Kubuntu+x86+%28Dapper%29?content=5478207:43
cotyis the ipod reconizable on linux07:43
nico_what can go wrong, it's linux :p07:43
nico_yes07:43
Bluedogcoty: Yes07:43
cotyit is not for me07:43
nico_coty: easy as dell07:43
BluedogWhat happens when you plug it in? USB or firewire also?07:44
nico_you plug it in and it appears on your desktop, at least here it does07:44
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cotynothing07:44
BluedogYou on edgy?07:44
cotyhold on i think it did reconize it07:44
BluedogMine appears on my desktop07:45
BluedogMight be as I have disk-mode turned on on the ipod however07:45
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BluedogI put stuff onto it using amaroK07:45
cotyok it did07:46
cotyit reconized it07:46
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cotyYou know what i really want to do is put linux on my ipod07:46
BluedogI've done that too07:46
Bluedoggoogle ipodlinux..07:46
cotyok07:47
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cotyi heard though that it only works on gen 107:47
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nico_nope not gonna work genii07:47
nico_wont even install07:47
geniinico_ Likely KDE version mismatch07:48
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cotyBluedog: i have a nano 2ng gen will it work on that07:48
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nico_some packages missing07:49
genii!info kdelibs edgy07:49
ubuntu__hi!07:49
nico_and im not even gonna try to get all the packages07:49
ubotukdelibs: core libraries from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.1.1 (edgy), package size 36 kB, installed size 88 kB07:49
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ubuntu__help07:49
Bluedogcoty: This isnt really anything to do with kubuntu, I'm not sure. There is a table on their wiki.07:49
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geniiHmm no , 3.5.5 is what it was compiled against apparently07:49
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frojndE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.   How can I fix this?!07:51
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cntbwhat was the name of the project to start ubuntu install from within windows and what state is it in  now ?07:51
geniicntb http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33827907:52
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cntbchecking genii07:53
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cntbbtw how do you find so quickly in forum genii07:53
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geniicntb I an very good at searching07:54
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NicoVgenii: now i can chat, had to register first07:54
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luapvcntb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows07:56
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genii:)07:56
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cntbluapv, tyvm I tried debian installer  from windows cant recall link will google it in ajitwhich seems tried and tested07:57
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TehTechGuyI just installed kubuntu, but when I restart it stalls with a message saying "loading grub from stage2"08:03
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rysiek|plguys, what do I need to change in xorg.conf to get the movie being played - be visible on the *other* of the two monitors?08:04
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TehTechGuyanyone here?  [18:03]  <TehTechGuy> I just installed kubuntu, but when I restart it stalls with a message saying "loading grub from stage2"08:07
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rysiek|plI think they're all dead, TehTechGuy08:08
calamarihi08:08
rysiek|plhi08:08
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vontuxhow do you get the about:config window to open in firefox?08:09
harmentalhey guys...08:09
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harmentalany latex guru around?08:09
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os2macok I have a really stupid question.08:09
calamariI have no idea whether this is KDE related or not: The very dark colors in an image show up too bright, so I see weird colors where I know they shouldn't be there.  Any ideas what might be causing this?  I'm using the NVidia Geforce 7800GT with nonfree driver.08:10
os2macI am in konquerer looking at /usr/share/sounds which is owned by root. I am unable to drop files into that directory because I in my user account08:10
Lynoureharmental: None was to be found on #latex?08:10
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os2macHow do I, through the GUI change the perms on that directory so that I can put files in it?08:11
os2macI know I can chmod the directory... I want to learn how to do it from the GUI in KDE.08:11
luapvvontux: open a new tab in firefox, and in the address line type about:config08:11
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vontuxluapv: thx :)08:12
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harmentalLynoure: there is nobody there....08:12
dhqhow do i set up wpa security for my linuxbox08:12
Lynoureos2mac: you could use sudo and commandline instead. or  kdesu konqueror  to have konq as root08:12
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luapvos2mac: are you trying to copy the file in a terminal or through konquerer?08:12
Lynoureharmental: hmm, I got a list of tens of users on that channel...08:12
os2macLuapv... trying to learn the GUI way of doing things. so through konquerer08:13
Lynoureharmental: you included, actually.08:13
os2macI am a commandline sort of person.. but i want to be to teach others the GUI way.08:13
harmentalLynoure: i mean NOBODY is responding...08:13
Lynoureos2mac: then kdesu konqueror  is the best way... changing the permissions of a system directory in usually not08:14
harmentalLynoure: its not the most active channel AT ALL....08:14
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geniiNicoV Found it. See PM08:14
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luapvos2mac: did you try running "kdesu konqueror"? this will grant you root privilages, so be careful08:14
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os2macOK so change the link on my konqueror to be kdesu konqueror or create another link that does the same thing?08:15
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TehTechGuy I just installed kubuntu, but when I restart it stalls with a message saying "loading grub from stage2"08:15
luapvos2mac: it would be better to create a new link, and use it only when required08:16
os2macwhat is command completion keystroke in kde?08:17
Lynoureos2mac: on commandline? tab.08:17
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harmentalLynoure: you see?08:18
Lynoureharmental: see what?08:18
BluedogWhen you create the first user in ubuntu, what group is it put into?08:18
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atidemhello08:18
LynoureBluedog: admin, I think08:18
BluedogLynoure: thanks08:19
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harmentalLynoure: nobody is answering.......thats what i call a dead channel...08:19
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geniiLynoure Yes, admin08:20
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Lynoureharmental: I'm not on that channel... The way you asked about latex here ruled out every non-guru-ego person, if you ask them with the question, maybe someone of them might answer?08:20
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harmentalLynoure: ok....maybe you're right...here i go...08:21
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harmentalim trying to make a bibliographic references with Kile+Tetex using IEEE formats.....but i wont work...08:21
harmentalany hints?08:21
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shawhow can I install the w32codecs package? Which repos do I need to enable?08:24
dwidmannshaw: multiverse08:25
dwidmann!multiverse08:25
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:25
aussiemanshaw look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu?highlight=%28apt%29%7C%28Feisty%29%7C%28sources%2908:25
shawthank you08:25
luapvshaw: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs08:25
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shawthanks a lot everyone, goodbye08:26
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Lynoureharmental: why not bibtex? (sorry, not a guru of any kind...)08:28
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harmentalim trying to use the IEEEtran class for bibliographic references (its for a paper)08:29
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eagles0513875has anyone setup pxe boot before08:32
Lynoureharmental: Read http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/IEEEtran/bibtex/IEEEtran_bst_HOWTO.pdf ?08:33
Lynoureharmental: I mean, did you read it already?08:33
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eagles0513875anyone know how to setup pxe or have a wiki on how to do that08:33
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harmentalyou know...thats why i asked for a guru ;o) ......it seems that ieeetran have some issues with tetex....08:34
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harmentalLynoure: and yes ive read the howto.....08:34
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luapveagles0513875: check this out http://wiki.koeln.ccc.de/index.php/Ubuntu_PXE_Install08:34
harmentalLynoure: ive managed to get it working in a not so fancy manner....but hey ...it works....08:35
harmentalso thx anyways!08:35
Lynoureharmental: :)08:35
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TehTechGuyhey all, I'm having some issues....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2391999#post239199908:46
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strahi08:48
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AMSmith42USB flash drive reading is slow. Common?08:50
utnubukthe original diablo wont work thru wine for me :(08:50
ArwenAMSmith42, yes08:50
AMSmith42Bummer.08:50
ArwenAMSmith42, the cheap flash cells in thumb drives are not very fast08:50
AMSmith42Yes, but shouldn't it at least be as fast as Windoze?08:51
Arwenyes08:52
Arwenand there's no such thing as "Windoze"08:52
AMSmith42lol08:52
AMSmith42There is on bad days.08:52
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AMSmith42How to drag-create a soft link/shortcut?08:55
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LeeJunFanAMSmith42: just drag and drop - a menu will pop up asking if you want to link/copy/move08:56
LeeJunFanAMSmith42: no right click required.08:57
AMSmith42Thank you08:57
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soulriderhi everyone08:58
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berndhi&hello08:59
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slow-motionhallo09:02
tominglishello, i have two hard drives, the second is ext3 mounted into my filesystem as /backup during alternate install, i would like to dismount it and use it for a windoze xp or vista install and get it to be loaded with grub, could someone tell me how?09:02
berndhi slow motion, was geht ab?09:02
calamariI have a keyboard with all those extra buttons on it.. any chance of getting those to work?09:02
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Yorokobitominglis, take it out of /etc/fstab then install windoze then ...09:04
Yorokobi!grub | tominglis09:04
ubotutominglis: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto09:04
Lynourecalamari: try through the various keyboard models for starters09:04
Mirrakorwhat's the root password on the kubuntu liveCD? (or do I have to use, sudo passwd ? )09:04
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chijinthere's no password09:04
Mirrakorjust enter?09:05
Mirrakoror sudo passwd?09:05
calamariLynoure: good idea09:05
chijinjust enter yes09:05
chijindoing sudo something shouldn't even ask for a password afaik09:05
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tominglisYorokobi: there is no folder called /etc/fstab? also, if i am installing windoze on another hard drive, will it still overwrite grub on my first hard drive?09:07
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Yorokobitominglis, fstab is a file, not a dir. And yes, Windows will nuke the MBR of the primary HDD09:08
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calamariLynoure: cool, found something, LinEAK09:08
dugwhere is the startup programs folder located?09:08
tominglisYorokobi: if i take the hard drive out of the machine, presumably it will be OK?09:08
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fantasyhallo wie gehts ?09:09
haydenhi all i have a G4 ibook with an Ati Radeon graphics card. The bootsplash is colored fine and normally, but once the KDE login manager starts almost all icons are discolored with little red dots on them. I was just wondering if anyone else has had this probelem and knows what to do?09:09
SolidSourceK3B 1.0 is awesome, the features are immense....also for all you that don't use DVD burners yet, theres is VCD now and various other features09:09
Yorokobitominglis, the one with Linux? Probably, but you won't be able to boot to Win after you put it back09:09
tominglisYorokobi: can't i point to is from grub somehow?09:09
ArwenSolidSource, VCDs suck...09:10
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SolidSourcehayden: restart Xserver and also ensure kubuntu-desktop09:10
SolidSourcehayden: is installed09:10
freexqfhow can i select the kernel modules to be loaded on start?09:10
Yorokobitominglis, if you install Windows _after_ installing linux you have to recover grub (see !grub again for a link to the guide). If you install Windows then Linux you don't have that problem.09:10
haydenensure?09:10
YorokobiWindows *always* nukes the MBR09:10
fantasyund auf deutsch ?09:11
neptunepinkWhats the program that kdm runs when you log in?09:11
LeeJunFan!de09:11
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:11
SolidSourceArwen: yes they do, I just know there has been people that ask about them and such09:11
Arwen:-\09:11
LeeJunFanneptunepink: X or kdeinit?09:11
neptunepinkthatone, I guess09:11
Yorokobineptunepink, take a look at /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc09:11
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dughow would a add an app to startup?09:12
LeeJunFanneptunepink: actually it runs startkde09:12
neptunepinkah....09:12
straboot live  linux cd install grub09:12
frojndE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.   How can I fix this?! this was during apt-get update09:12
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YorokobiIn kdmrc: ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br09:12
LeeJunFanneptunepink: whish is a script you can edit. what kdm runs depends on what session type you choose.09:12
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neptunepinkhow can you add sessions?09:13
Yorokobifrojnd, run the update again until it works or pick a different mirror for the repos09:13
LeeJunFanneptunepink: you can have a look at the /usr/share/xsessions folder for what it runs AND how to add them.09:13
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dughow would i add beryl-manager to startup?09:15
LeeJunFandug: you can make a link in ~/.kde/Autostart09:15
dugthank you09:15
LeeJunFandug: ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart/.09:15
Yorokobidug, 'ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Auto ... ^^^09:15
YorokobiLeeJunFan, beat me to it09:15
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blueyedRiddell: is there any chance that taskbar-compiz (also for beryl) would get included in kubuntu? See http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4948409:16
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haydendoes anyone know how to get rid of icon discoloration in edgy09:16
Yorokobiblueyed, you can get them from http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/09:17
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ArwenYorokobi, what's suspend2?09:17
YorokobiArwen, dunno ... where'd you get it from?09:18
ArwenYorokobi, that link you posted09:18
Arwenit's the only thing in it09:18
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Yorokobiwhich time?09:18
Yorokobito who?09:18
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Arwenhttp://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb09:18
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Yorokobioh ... the deb|deb-src is http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/ edgy beryl-svn09:19
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MenaHi, I missed up My /etc/sudoers file and i want to use the backup ..How to do09:19
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Menai am on fiesty09:19
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neptunepinkMena: you have a backup file?09:19
YorokobiArwen, I didn't paste the whole thing09:19
Arwenah...09:20
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Menaneptunepink, i talked you on fiesty09:22
busfahrerHi, I'm using Kubuntu 6.10 (KDE 3.5.5), and about half of the time a tooltip pops up, the text (i.e. the font) looks very 'unsmooth', what could be a cause for that?09:22
Menaneptunepink, i mean ubuntu +109:22
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Arwenbusfahrer, lake of anti-aliasing/09:23
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busfahrerArwen: Yes, but half of the time?09:23
Arwenah... hmm, no idea09:24
busfahrerI hate it when computers behave indeterministic :-)09:24
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Yorokobibusfahrer, have you tried enabling the RGB anti-aliasing feature?09:25
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busfahrerYorokobi: Where do I find that?09:25
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YorokobiKmenu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts09:25
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tominglisYorokobi: so all i need to do to unmount /backup is to remove the relevant hard drive from fstab and restart?09:26
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tominglisYorokobi: there is no command or anything?09:26
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forhamYorokobi,  hi09:26
Yorokobibusfahrer, in the Fonts option, check "use anti-aliasing" then the Configure button then "Use sub-pixel hinting" set to RGB09:27
forhamYorokobi,  you work for ubuntu right?09:27
Yorokobihaha09:27
forhami mean the company that owns the name09:27
Yorokobisorry, forham. :) I do not. Thanks for the vote of confidence :)09:27
forhamand gives support09:27
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forhamamagawd normally i hate it when someone wakes me up during a dream not this time i was able to retain it so kewl09:28
Yorokobitominglis, I meant remove the entry for the drive in the fstab file. You may want to unmount it first but it'll be okay if you don't as it won't be mounted after a reboot.09:29
forhamonly problem its werder than memento09:29
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forhamtrying to make sense of it for a stupid person i do have interesting dreams09:29
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Yorokobiforham, for the record. I do not work for Canonical.09:29
forhamok09:29
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forhammy dreams are werder than Richard Stallmans gpl09:30
forhamlol09:30
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forhamwhats that new stuff he is writing about distritbution having to be online09:31
fdoving!offtopic | forham09:31
ubotuforham: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:31
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forhamthat would mean smaller distros that couldnt afford hosting would have to go illegal with open source or stop09:31
forhamthanks fdoving09:32
fdovingyou're welcome :)09:32
fdovingand thanks for understanding :)09:32
forhami just hope i wasnt to boring in offtopic mode09:32
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forhamoh geeez the best part was my dream about linux :(09:33
forhamok fdoving helpo me then09:34
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PLChi'09:34
forhami want to mount my ntfs partition in kubuntu09:34
fdoving!ntfs | forham09:34
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forhaminside vmware on vista09:34
fdovinginside vmware?09:34
ubotuforham: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse09:34
Black_Catforham: ntfs is read only, be aware of that09:35
fdovingi don't know anything about vmware nor vista.09:35
forhamrunning on vmware with vista as host os so kubuntu as guest os09:35
adydasuse ntfs-3g09:35
adydasi found it piss easy to use09:35
fdovingi belive vmware supports sharing disks somehow.09:35
forhamvmware appliances09:35
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neptunepinkyou can use a virtualized toaster? w/ virtual toast?09:36
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forhami think i am going to write a short story09:36
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forham:p09:36
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posingaspopularforham, stories are hard to write09:37
posingaspopularim beating my head against the wall to finish one myself09:37
forhamnot when i can just write about my werd ass dreams09:37
posingaspopularfair enough09:38
posingaspopularmy dreams are never logical/sequential enough to write about09:38
forhamposingaspopular maybe i can help :p09:38
posingaspopularand they always end up with me doding/running from the police09:38
forhamposingpopular thats whats so great about it09:38
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forhamwhy do stories have to be logical and sequential09:38
forhamdreams never bore09:39
forhamwhy is that you think09:39
posingaspopularforham, i have the basic premise down, i just need to sketch out the dialogue and come up with an ending09:39
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forhamcorrect because you can zap09:39
forhamto something else09:39
posingaspopularwell my new story is about raptors and arcades...09:39
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posingaspopularthe premise is strange enough...09:40
forhamare you selling it to a magazine ?09:40
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posingaspopularno its for a writing class09:40
forhamoh ok09:40
Yorokobi!offtopic | posingaspopular forham09:40
ubotuposingaspopular forham: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:40
forhamoh oops sorry09:41
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cafreamoroso_anybody uses lastfm?09:41
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chijini do09:42
metty_hi! which package will i have to install for the "mail" funktion pls?09:43
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Yorokobimetty_, the command-line mail or some client (such as Thunderbird)?09:43
Black_Catmetty_: a php function? search for sendmail i guess09:43
cafreamoroso_or the server sendmaiil?09:44
metty_Yorokobi, Black_Cat, the commandmine mail09:44
qsuis there a kde gui for irda09:44
metty_line*09:44
Yorokobimetty_, is it not installed already?09:45
metty_Yorokobi: no :(09:45
metty_Yorokobi:  i am using edgy 6.1009:45
cafreamoroso_he just wants to be able to use the sendmail function from a php script09:45
Yorokobimetty_, do you have the mailx package installed? If not, it may be in there09:45
Yorokobicafreamoroso_, sendmail is different from that metty_ is looking for09:45
Yorokobimetty_, is this for PHP?09:46
metty_Yorokobi: no i just want to send mails through the commandline09:46
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Yorokobimetty_, okay 'sudo apt-get install mailx'09:47
metty_Yorokobi: ok thx a lot09:47
Yorokobinp09:47
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metty_Yorokobi: will i have to run the configuration of mailx??09:49
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Yorokobimetty_, I don't think there is one. It may depend on an MTA like sendmail/exim4/postfix though, which you will have to configure.09:50
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metty_Yorokobi: is there a possibility to send anonymous email through mailx?09:50
forhamYorokobi,  how do you store all that information inside of your brain?09:51
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Yorokobimetty_, if you don't specify a from address it'll use root@yourhostname09:51
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metty_Yorokobi: thx09:51
BluesKajif actually minimize the app icon shows in the taskbar , but if its hidden by a another app or webpage , it's truly hidden and the instructions read like a riddle in "configure panel"09:51
Yorokobiforham, years of repetitive tasks :)09:51
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Hrontorewhat does "BERYL" do?09:53
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Yorokobi!beryl | Hrontore09:53
HymnToLifelets you show off09:53
ubotuHrontore: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects09:53
forhamok i see Yorokobi09:53
forhamYorokobi,  would you mind to keep doing this for 300 years longer?09:54
forhamyour brain in a jar connected to IRC09:54
Yorokobiforham, I have been working with Debian since 1998. I hope to retire before I reach 330 years old09:54
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forhamlol09:54
aaroncampbellcan you get opera from a repo, or should I download it from their site?09:54
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tominglisYorokobi: awesome, i will try that now then, thanks loads! are you sure i canne just install vista on the second hard drive having removed the first, and then remove the mbr from the second hard drive?09:54
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tominglisYorokobi: and then edit grub09:55
excitatorymy computer is behaving in a rather peculiar manner.. almost every time it drops into some sort of 'power saving' mode (i.e., monitor turning off, or stopping of hard disk) the usb mouse fails to resume the system.  Sometimes the keyboard fails too, but usually i can hit a key and the monitor will turn back on.  When that is the case, the mouse is frozen until i unplug and plug it back in.  I also think something strange is up with09:55
excitatoryusb in general, since my external hard drive exhibits similar behavior in the sense that it only works 1/2 the time when i plug it in.09:55
Yorokobitominglis, if by remove you mean from fstab and not physically09:55
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chijin!info k3b09:56
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ubotuk3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB09:56
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BluesKajhmm...sounds like an fstab prob , usb isn't loading on reboot , excitatory09:56
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metty_Yorokobi:  if i chose "bla" as a postfix, is there a possibility for u to find out that the email came from me? (or just "metty@bla")09:59
Yorokobimetty_, "bla" as a host name for postfix?10:00
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YorokobiIf yes, then emails will be FROM: <metty@blah>10:00
metty_Yorokobi:  yep, and will there be a possibility to find out my ip adress or something similiar?10:00
excitatoryBluesKaj: no, everything works on reboot.. it's just after my monitor turns off from power saving mode.10:00
Yorokobimetty_, yes.10:01
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metty_Yorokobi: how?10:01
Yorokobimetty_, Postfix is a good MTA. It'll add your IP like its supposed to.10:01
DaSkreech!adept crash fix10:02
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 10:02
metty_Yorokobi: "good MTA" sry i don't get the point, i am relatively new to linux :)10:02
Yorokobimetty_, by good MTA I mean RFC compliant (standards compliant)10:02
YorokobiMTA: Mail Transport Agent (as opposed to MUA: Mail User Agent [Thunderbird/Outlook/etc.] )10:03
Black_Cathey i've installed libxine-extracodecs, but no mp3 support yet though sound in video is okay. should i restart xserver or reboot for changes to take effect? or i must configure anything manually?10:03
metty_Yorokobi: thx for ur engagement, but can u pls explain it for a dump noob? g10:03
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Yorokobimetty_, sure. Which part do you want me to start with?10:04
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metty_Yorokobi: if i open my kmail (for instance) i just will see the metty@bla  , so how can u find out where from the mail is originally pls?10:05
YorokobiIn kmail, click View -> Headers -> Full headers10:05
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Lars_GHey, is anyone in here the packager for kde4 for kubuntu?10:06
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Tm_TLars_G: why?10:06
Lars_GTm_T: I'd like to know if he'd share any scripts and debian dirs he uses for it, so I could try to compile today's SVN pull into packages10:06
forhamis it possible to get a dissease that causes you to lose taste?10:07
Tm_TLars_G: take sourcepackages, or are those missing?10:07
Lars_Gforham: very possible.10:07
Yorokobiforham, smoking10:07
Yorokobi:)10:07
Tm_TLars_G: apt-get source foofoo10:07
Tm_T;)10:07
Lars_GTm_T: Hmm I'll check. but ripping off the sources to apply to the lattest.. oh well I'll see10:07
forhamoops i thought i was in offtopic10:07
Lars_Gforham: but, looking for medical help in irc is very VERY counter productive10:08
forhamno sorry it was meant for offtopic10:08
metty_Yorokobi: ahh ok thx a lot ;) and is there a possibility to write such a mail anonymous?10:08
Yorokobimetty_, its possible but I'm not going to be the one to tell you how.10:08
Black_Catforham: angina can cause it afaik.10:08
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Tm_TLars_G: that's how it should do by the books10:09
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Tm_TLars_G: should be done even (:10:09
elitehackerhey, how do u change the coluor of the task abr in kbuntu?10:09
maurohi everyone10:09
Lars_Gforham: My response still stands10:09
ubuntulol ok10:09
Black_Cati've installed libxine-extracodecs, but no mp3 support yet though sound in video is okay. should i restart xserver or reboot for changes to take effect? or i must configure anything manually?10:09
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ubuntui dont smoke but the food i just ordered is tasteless to me10:10
mauroBlack_Cat: just close and re open amarok10:10
ubuntuthats why i asked10:10
Yorokobielitehacker, right click the panel -> configure panel10:10
Lars_Gforham: going to irc for medical advice is equivalent to asking your junkyard representative to help you with your nuclear bomb10:10
metty_Yorokobi: k thx though, would it be circumstantial to do this?10:10
mauroubuntu: please change your nick >.<10:10
elitehackerthanx10:10
Yorokobielitehacker, then Appearance10:10
Powerking89670(/nick [new nick] )10:11
Yorokobimetty_, circumstantial? Depends on your motives.10:11
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tominglisYorokobi: no i meant physically from the machine, so that vista's installer can't overwrite the mbr on the first drive10:11
Lars_Gubuntulog: Btw I PRAY you changed the default live-cd password before you laid foot on irc10:11
metty_Yorokobi: just wanted to know if this would be hard for a noob10:12
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metty_Yorokobi: ;) but let's stop here - thx for ur help ;)10:12
kubuntuonsteroidPowerking89670:  i used the panel on the left of the text input box to change my nick10:12
kubuntuonsteroidi am using konversation10:12
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Black_Catmauro: thank you! it really worked out, but only at 2nd attempt for some reason :)10:12
Yorokobitominglis, if you do that (and if Windows installs on a slave with no master present), and /then/ you put the master (w/Linux) back you won't be able to boot to windows10:12
|capiirahmm hi does 6.10 have kde 3.5.6 ?10:12
Yorokobinp, metty_10:12
mauro|capiira: i don think its there by default, 3.5.5 might be10:14
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maurobut it will be downloaded with the updates10:14
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Yorokobi|capiira, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php10:14
Black_Cati guess someone can consider this question as offtopic, but i dare to ask it anyway :) if someone knows a win32 program called Total Commander, tell me pls: is there something similar for kubuntu?10:15
soulrideri guess no one here uses GNOME, right ?10:15
|capiirathx10:15
soulriderBlack_Cat: yes10:15
soulridertry krusader10:15
elitehackerhow do u change the coulor on the task bar? in kbuntu yorokobi, Or can i??10:15
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Black_Catsoulrider: okay, thanks, can i find it in repository or should i google?10:16
soulriderBlack_Cat: i believe its in the repos10:16
soulrider!info krusader10:16
ubotukrusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB10:16
elitehackeri tried aperance in confiure o taskbar but its only for popup menus in the K menu and not the task abr itslef10:16
Yorokobielitehacker, so I know I've understood you correctly, you're referring to the panel/bar typically found at the bottom of the screen ?10:16
elitehackeryes10:16
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Yorokobielitehacker, its in Appearance at the bottom (under the drop boxes)10:16
tominglisYorokobi: even if you delete the windows mbr from the second drive?10:17
elitehackerokay10:17
Yorokobitominglis, The BIOS won't look at the MBR for the 2nd drive if there's a master on ide010:17
Black_Catsoulrider: erm... it says "edgy" there, doesn't it mean that i can't have if for dapper drake release?10:17
elitehackerhas anyone changed the panel to a windows taskbar lmao i would love that10:17
soulriderBlack_Cat: youre on dapper? just try to apt-get it anyways10:18
soulrideri think it is for dapper too10:18
soulriderits in*10:18
underdog5004Anyone ever try to get a Phillips GoGear MP3 player working? I plugged it in, but it gets misdetected as a USB Imaging Interface...10:18
Powerking89670I got linux to get away from windows. I dont want to make it look more like windows >.<10:18
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elitehackerlol10:18
tominglisYorokobi: but does it need an mbr? can't grub on the first drive point to the windows installation on the second drive in the boot menu?10:18
metty_when does it make sense to send a binary file?10:18
Yorokobielitehacker, now that I'm looking a bit closer, you can change the /image/ for the panel and "colorize" it to match the bg image but you can't choose a color that way10:19
Black_Catsoulrider: ty10:19
elitehackerohh10:19
soulriderno prob Black_Cat, were here to help ;)10:19
Black_CatPowerking89670: same here :)10:19
Yorokobitominglis, yes, if you don't mind altering the /boot/grub/menu.lst by hand10:19
soulriderelitehacker: could you install java? :P10:19
elitehackersee when i change the thing it only has default settings ex. blue wood KDE button Line gray?? i need it to change to a solid coulor as light black10:19
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Powerking89670I decided to make the jump to linux as opposed to that bucket of crap (can we swear in here?) Vista10:19
elitehackeryeah i did i updated kbuntu10:19
elitehackerto get java10:20
tominglisYorokobi: immense! so that would work? i shall do that!10:20
Yorokobitominglis, an MBR (master boot record) is required. Otherwise the BIOS will give you the "Operating system not found" error10:20
BluesKajfree internet from google  ;)   http://www.google.com/tisp/10:20
Powerking89670I decided not to swear so I didnt get in trouble for swearing in a no swear chan10:20
Yorokobitominglis, good luck :)10:20
tominglisYorokobi: so i will remove the ubuntu drive, install vista, then replace the drive and delete the mbr on the vista drive? and the alter grub to load the windows install?10:21
soulriderlol Powerking89670 swearing is not something nice to do here, but i guess if youre talking about vista, you can :P10:21
elitehackerall my windows are light black with dark blue like the default desktop image i have is set as "3d gears" and i would like the taskbar or PANEL to be that coulor too... anyone here change the panel to a solid coulor "black"?10:21
Powerking89670Ok let me set myself NOT to swear, even know its part of my common vocab when talking about M$10:21
Black_CatPowerking89670: if i were you i'd look for 3ddesktop for KDE, it's much better than vista :)10:21
Powerking89670Thats not a surprized. There isnt much out there that is WORSE then vista10:22
Powerking89670damn it why I cant I type today10:22
soulriderlol10:22
Yorokobielitehacker, there are themes (kde-look.org) you can try. You can also mess with the colors in System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors10:22
elitehackeralrite10:22
Powerking89670perhaps its the lack of sleep and the constant need to get shit working on this comp10:22
soulrideri used it for a bit and it was such a piece of crap, but i musta dmit i thought the eye candy was fab10:22
Powerking89670Anyway. Im tring to see if the fact that sound does not work is a driver issue10:23
Powerking89670or if its a software issue10:23
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Black_CatPowerking89670: what sound? mp3?10:24
Black_Cator any sound at all?10:24
Powerking89670Well. as far as I know I havent tried to play any sound10:24
Powerking89670But pretty much no sound works ya10:24
elitehackerwow is the google-tisp internet free?? that would be sweet, but like other services? do i have to be near a starbucks???10:24
Powerking89670I tried playing a wav file yesterday10:25
Yorokobielitehacker, just near your toilet10:25
Black_Catdon't you even have logging in/out sound?10:25
Tm_Telitehacker: yup, just flush10:25
Yorokobielitehacker, on April Fool's day10:25
Powerking89670*cough* its a joke*cough&10:25
Powerking89670there is a logging in and out sound?10:25
elitehackeri knwo lol10:25
Powerking89670based on this convo, its a gd driver issue10:25
elitehackerobv it was fake lol10:25
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Powerking89670as usual the hard way never fails10:26
YorokobiPowerking89670, what sound card/chipset do you have?10:26
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Powerking89670Its running off my MOBO10:26
YorokobiBrand & model?10:26
Powerking89670lol. no idea...dont tell me I have to open the case (again)10:27
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YorokobiPowerking89670, is it an OEM (Dell, Gateway, NEC. etc)?10:27
Powerking89670Its an Emachines10:27
YorokobiModel ?10:27
Powerking89670T416010:27
elitehackerall rite thats what i have emachine Emonster10:27
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BluesKajPowerking89670  type lspci in the konsole10:28
mhbhi folks10:28
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Powerking89670u want me to PM you what it gives me?10:28
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Powerking89670irc.freenode.com10:29
Powerking89670oops10:29
Powerking89670gd it10:29
mhbdo you know if there is a Kicker applet that can insert text in it? Like "Places" or "system" in Ubuntu...10:29
Powerking89670this is the audio line10:29
Powerking89670ill pm you10:29
Pollywoganyone know how I can get back the trash icon in Edgy?10:29
Black_Cat!apache10:29
Powerking89670apperently I cant pm10:29
Powerking89670is it alright to post two lines in the chan?10:30
motwPollywog, do you mean an icon on the desktop or an applet on the panel?10:30
Powerking89670know what10:30
Powerking89670better idea10:30
Pollywogyou have to identify to Nickserv to send pm's10:30
Black_CatPollywog: create a new location link to trash:/10:30
Pollywogicon on desktop10:30
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:30
BluesKajPowerking89670, your soundcard , graphics and ethernet cards should all be listed by brand and model #10:30
Powerking89670You want just the sound?10:30
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Powerking89670http://www.swgemods.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20070402163015-855610:30
Powerking89670thats just the sound10:30
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YorokobiI can't find anything other than "integrated sound" in any of the descriptions of Powerking89670's machine10:31
testmanhi folks10:31
Powerking89670Yea thats because its a POS10:31
PollywogBlack_Cat: I don't know where the trash is, that is the problem10:31
testmanhow can i use fsck? when i try to run it i get the error that running fsck on a mounted fs can cause damage. so how can i fsck my root filesystem?10:31
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lauritsHey all10:31
LeeJunFantestman: boot into single mode.10:32
LeeJunFan!single10:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about single - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:32
BluesKajntel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio10:32
Pollywogoh I think I remember where it might be10:32
Yorokobiah, thanks for the link, Powerking89670. That should be supported "out of the box" in Ubuntu10:32
LeeJunFan!recovery10:32
ubotuTo rescue a broken system, boot the alternate install CD and select "Rescue a broken system"10:32
testmanLeeJunFan: how?10:32
Black_CatPollywog: you don't have to. just hit right mouse button on desktop, create a link and type the URL trash:/10:32
Pollywogah thanks10:32
testmanah ok, thx i'll try that10:32
Powerking89670Ok, so it SHOULD work then?10:32
elitehackeranyone know how to get Diablo1 on Kbuntu ?10:32
Powerking89670you see I dont have the best of luck. So ill be back when it doesnt10:32
LeeJunFantestman: when you get to grub, hit esc to get the menu, choose your kernel, hit e, go to the kernel line hit e again, add single to the list of options there, hit enter, then b.10:33
YorokobiPowerking89670, it *should* yes :)10:33
Powerking89670:p10:33
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testmanok thx buddy10:33
lauritsHey i'm new on kubuntu...second time i try to do something on it...but dont understand how to install stuff...10:33
laurits8-)10:33
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adydashow to install what stuff10:33
adydasthe OS its self or programs for it?10:33
lauritsamsn10:33
lauritshmm some games10:33
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adydasever used apt-get before?10:34
lauritsxhat10:34
lauritsnop10:34
adydasyou know kubuntu comes with a MSN messanger eh?10:34
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elitehackerKopete10:34
adydasKopete10:34
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LeeJunFanI wish ubuntu would add the option to force fsck on / to upstart as a shutdown option.10:34
Powerking89670I hated Kopete so I just did a switch with it and gaim :D10:34
BluesKajPowerking89670 , make sure you have your alsamixer settings enabled ..type 'alsamixer' in the konsole and make sure the sliders are at atleast 67%10:34
Mirrakorwtf o.O10:35
elitehackerus messenger.msn.com its a webbased msn No need to install i use it on computers some times when they dont have MSN"10:35
BluesKaj!aMSN10:35
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about amsn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:36
elitehackerwhy do ppl say M$? instead of the MS or the full name is it a copyright issue?10:36
BluesKaj!IM10:36
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.10:36
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stra!automatix10:36
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:36
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Powerking89670Thank you, some of them were down, so I turned them up :D10:37
BluesKajare they working ?10:37
Black_Catelitehacker: i believe it's because they want to underline heavy costs :) when it's all licensed of course :)10:37
elitehackeryeah10:37
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strog_hi10:37
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elitehackerbill gates must make like ? 5,000 a sec.? maybe10:38
strog_i wanted to install a CAD program through alien10:38
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strog_it is a .rpm file10:38
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strog_and i get the following message:10:38
Yorokobi!rpm | strog_10:38
ubotustrog_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:38
strog_i use alien to convert it10:38
strog_i get the following message:10:38
munzirstrog_: what's that CAD you want? are you sure it's not in ubuntu?10:38
strog_Warning: Skipping conversion of scripts in package eagle-lin-eng: postinst prerm10:38
strog_Warning: Use the --scripts parameter to include the scripts.10:38
adydaslaurits: still stuck?10:39
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strog_it is the eagle cad program10:39
David_Hi, I have two cpus but only work one, I'm using kubuntu 7.04.10:39
LeeJunFan!smp10:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:39
LeeJunFanstupid bot :)10:39
YorokobiDavid_, which kernel? generic?10:40
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LeeJunFanI thought the default kernel now supported smp?10:40
mrignsDavid_: they work both, but the sensors dont10:40
David_Yorokobi: Linux kerwonz-laptop 2.6.20-13-386 #2 Sun Mar 25 00:18:53 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux10:40
LeeJunFan!away | Sea_Master10:40
ubotuSea_Master: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines10:40
YorokobiDavid_, try the generic instead of the i386 kernel10:40
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David_Yorokobi: okay, let me do that.10:41
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YorokobiThen you'll get : Linux sodium 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux10:41
David_Yorokobi: linux-image-2.6.20-13-generic10:41
elitehackerHow do u install games on kubuntu? I have diablo but its an .exe ?10:41
Powerking89670Does anyone in here know anything about Wine? If so where does it install the programs to (If you use a windows Installer)10:42
strog_ubotu: this is the link of the CAD program, http://www.cadsoft.de/cgi-bin/download.pl?page=/home/cadsoft/html_public/download.htm.en&dir=eagle/program/4.110:42
elitehackerthats what i need10:42
YorokobiDavid_, you're using feisty so the kernel version will be 2.6.2010:42
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elitehackerineed the program "wine" for diablo in order for it to insta;;10:42
David_Yorokobi: okay, let me try.10:42
Yorokobi!wine | Powerking8967010:42
ubotuPowerking89670: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:42
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adydasPowerking89670: try home.wine10:42
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elitehackerwhere do u get "wine"10:42
BluesKajstrog_,   ftp://ftp.cadsoft.de/eagle/program/4.16r2/eagle-lin-eng-4.16r2.tgz10:43
LjL!bot > strog_    (strog_, see the private message from Ubotu)10:43
LeeJunFan!info wine10:43
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB10:43
adydasadydas@adydas:~/.wine/drive_c$ ls10:43
adydasProgram Files  windows10:43
elitehackeri need wine to install diablo110:43
BluesKajtheres a linuc version of CAD10:43
Powerking89670Yes, Wine was not hard to install. Directions are on the site10:43
adydasit installs to .wine/10:44
LjL!wine > elitehacker    (elitehacker, see the private message from Ubotu)10:44
BluesKajya don't need wine to run CAD10:44
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adydashe wants wine to run diablo the game not CAD10:44
BluesKajyeah , iknow but others were talking about CAD in wine10:44
adydasoh ok10:45
adydasmy bad10:45
Yorokobihmmm ... looks like Compiz and Beryl will be joining forces10:45
BluesKajdouble whammy for the "eyecandy set" :)10:45
YorokobiYup10:45
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CaptainApathywoo apparently I managed to install kubuntu after all...10:47
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yoopernatehas anyone tried putting linux on a palm TX?10:48
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elitehackeris there an easyier way to select all the topic in adept to install and undate instead of clicking and holding and scrolling up??10:50
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Black_Catwhat is the chance that debian/kde package will not work in kubuntu?10:50
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YorokobiBlack_Cat, is the package not included in Kubuntu?10:50
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Black_CatYorokobi: it's not about one package, it's about package collection for debian on DVD.10:51
YorokobiBlack_Cat, the packages will probably work. Sometimes all that changes between Debian and Ubuntu is the artwork ... sometimes compile options. *shrug*10:52
elitehackerOMG i keep on trying to select 192 topics and udpates in adept uhhh i keep acciedently click the rigth button and deslecteting them all!! >:(10:52
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Black_Catokay, thanx :)10:53
Yorokobielitehacker, have you tried selecting the first, scrolling to the last, then shift-select the last? (hold down shift and click on the last one)10:53
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elitehackerlol man i am dumb10:54
elitehackerthanx that helped alot10:54
Yorokobiheh, I'm surprised it worked.10:55
elitehackerlol wow that would of took me an hour to select them all10:55
sinpathhey can some one tell me how to access my E drive on the linuxs side of my pc?10:55
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Yorokobisinpath, is your E a Windows drive/partition?10:56
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sinpathno i have a dule boot & just put in a new drive10:57
aargon997Hallo world!!10:57
Yorokobisinpath, what interface is the new drive? USB? IDE? SATA? Firewire?10:57
sinpathide no fire wall10:58
underdog5004Anyone ever use golb? If so, can you help me?10:58
chijin:-P10:58
Black_Cathey-hey! Language selector installer downloads gtk libs, but i'm using KDE! What's going on? why does it download so much?10:58
aargon997No i don't know what is it10:58
Yorokobiheh, Fire/wire/ (IEEE1394) not Fire Wall10:58
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aargon997Anyone can tell me how to improove memory usage of my l box?10:59
sinpathlol sorry just ide hook up10:59
lauritssomeone have time for me :) pme !10:59
Yorokobisinpath, is it formatted?10:59
sinpathyes10:59
Yorokobisinpath, what filesystem? vfat? NTFS? ext3?11:00
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elitehackerwow does every one seem to run linux on a 500-700Mhz Pentium 3 pc with about 256mb ram lol every fourm and thing i go to that seems to be the best pc for it11:00
sinpathNTFS i beleive11:00
Yorokobilaurits, you can start with Add/Remove Programs in the K menu but you may want to look at ...11:00
Yorokobi!repositories > laurits11:00
Yorokobilaurits, ... the PM from ubotu11:00
Yorokobi!ntfs > sinpath11:01
Yorokobi!ntfs-3g > sinpath11:01
Black_Catelitehacker: i got p3-700-128 :)11:01
elitehackerlol11:01
elitehackermine is a 731Mhz 455Mb of ram lol with only a 3gig HD lol and a Dvd burner11:01
LeeJunFanhehe. minimalists!11:02
sinpaththanks yorokobi11:02
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Black_Cati wonder how many MBs this language selector is going to download?11:02
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LeeJunFanI feel like a glutton, I've got 600G of hd space and 2G of ram.11:02
Black_Catit's pretty tough for dialup....11:02
elitehackeri wonder how u make a server pc ? i would really need for for my windows xp pc so i can stop viruses with a better firewall11:02
LeeJunFanelitehacker: firewalls dont' stop viruses, only worms.11:03
elitehacker600Gb holy11:03
elitehackeryeah i had like 3 anit-viruses one time but HOLY that slows down cpu time a memorey11:03
LeeJunFanelitehacker: external HD's. I'm on a laptop with a 60G, 300G external attached to it, and 2 120's sitting on the floor - not hooked up right now.11:03
YorokobiLeeJunFan, Athlon 64 X2 (@2GHz) w/2GB RAM, 750 GB HDD (SATA2)11:04
LeeJunFanyou should never run more than one Antivirus program at a time on windows, not only does it slow down the system horribly and consume too many resouces, but the AV software can hook into the same points in windows and make the system unbootable.11:04
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YorokobiI suppose I shouldn't list my Windows box stats in a Linux chat room ... :D11:05
elitehackeri have a dell XPS p4 thats the one i run windows on11:05
LeeJunFanYorokobi: athlon here too. 2.2GHz, not x2 though.11:05
elitehacker3.6Ghz i think mine is11:06
elitehackeronly 1 proseccor thou11:06
Black_CatLeeJunFan: i've read an article telling how two antiviruses fought tearing each other to pieces...11:06
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LeeJunFanI'm waiting until I pass 1yr uptime on my mailserver to upgrade that. hehe11:06
Yorokobi!offtopic > Yorokobi11:06
LeeJunFan14 days 6.5hrs to 1 year uptime :)11:07
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elitehackerwow Leejun i only have 320gb of HDD thats 2 of em put toghther and u still beat me :( im getting a terabyte!!!11:08
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LeeJunFanelitehacker: well the 2 120's are empty. One of them is going in my kid's computer. The other I just use for backing up other peoples data when I work on their systems.11:09
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sinpathumm yorokobi im having a bit of a problem11:09
Yorokobiokay sinpath, hit me with it.11:09
LeeJunFanmy 300G has backups of my servers, my laptop, misc crap, and I always keep a local mirror of the current stable and devel i386 versions of ubuntu repos.11:09
frojndaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa11:10
frojndcan't get my samba working right11:10
elitehackerholy crap11:10
sinpathwell when i put the comand line in the term like it says i get an error11:10
sinpathbash: gksu: command not found11:10
Yorokobisinpath, subst sudo for gksu11:10
elitehackeri am 14 allrite prob have the fastest pc in welland ?? :) maybe that i know of11:10
sinpathok thanks11:11
elitehackerfor a youngage11:11
frojndI installed samba. make new unix user with password of XP also this same password for samba user make folders to share in K system settings -> sharing and still I AM NOT ABLE TO SEE XP SHARES... help11:11
frojndI also restart samba..11:11
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Yorokobifrojnd, did you set samba up to the same workgroup as XP ?11:11
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elitehackerwell i gtg let my adpet install 192 files once i get back it should be done!! :)11:12
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frojndYorokobi: no... I have workgroup and XP has mshome I think..11:12
sinpathgrr this is getting tiresome11:12
sinpathsudo: gedit: command not found11:12
Yorokobifrojnd, the workgroup names need to match11:12
frojndlemme check11:12
Yorokobisinpath, okay ... try kdesu kate instead of gksu gedit11:13
ubuntuwhere are the german peoples11:13
Yorokobi!de | ubuntu11:13
Yorokobibot lag ?11:13
ubotuubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:13
Black_Catbot death :)11:14
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aaroncampbellI switched back to my bluetooth kb/mouse (couldn't use it during install).  As soon as I plugged in the USB key, it worked great.  Now, everytime I reboot, I have to unplug the usb key, and plug it back in before the KB or mouse work11:14
Black_Cat!ru | ubuntu11:14
ubotuubuntu:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke11:14
aaroncampbellThis is the kb/mouse: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682312617711:14
Yorokobioooh11:14
Yorokobi!ja > Yorokobi11:14
Yorokobisweet11:14
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frojndis it workgrup or workgroup11:15
Yorokobifrojnd, in samba?11:15
frojndyes11:15
frojndworkgroup = MSHOME ?11:15
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Yorokobifrojnd, that looks right11:16
Yorokobifrojnd, you may already know this but just in case: you have to restart samba after changing the /etc/samba/smb.conf file11:17
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frojndYorokobi: Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall :s11:19
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Yorokobifrojnd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba11:20
sinpathok i think i got it but ...not sure11:20
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rstancahow can I fix a broken MBR from kubuntu live-cd? chroot on installed partition /dev/hda2, then grub-install /dev/hda but it says "/dev/hda: Not found or not a block device."  what am i missing?11:20
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Yorokobi!mbr > rstanca11:21
tuxhi all11:21
Powerking89670I apologize for asking another wine question in the Kubuntu channel. However could someone explain to me exactly where to go for wine11:21
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Powerking89670for the wine dir11:22
Powerking89670where it stores the gd installations :p....(Im a nooblet, yes I know)11:22
TheMolegd?11:22
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Powerking89670first word is god11:22
TheMoleGod installations?11:22
Powerking89670no11:22
YorokobiPowerking89670, typically ~/.wine/11:22
Powerking89670god d***11:23
TheMoleAh.11:23
TheMolelol11:23
Powerking89670so I just...put that in?11:23
rstancathanks Yorokobi11:23
YorokobiPowerking89670, that's where wine puts installed programs, etc.11:23
Yorokobinot where you put things :)11:23
Yorokobirstanca, np11:24
Powerking89670I know11:24
Powerking89670I mean11:24
Powerking89670I put that in the navigation bar to goto that directory11:24
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Powerking89670to remove a program11:24
YorokobiI think wine has its own removal system but I'm not certain11:24
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TheMoleIf wine has made a Kmenu entry for you, Add/Remove is under there.11:25
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kalorin_uninstall11:25
_benjo-hi can someone please help me troubleshoot my wireless connection??11:25
kalorin_for win11:25
kalorin_wine11:25
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YorokobiPowerking89670, have you tried #winehq ?11:25
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frojndI have one qustion: is it possible that I can share files to another computer via network card: my compiuter gets connection through a router, can also my computer be connected with an external newtork card to another computer??11:26
saferWhy is it that a lot of times, when using linux, and I click shutdown or restart, the screen goes black,  but the computer keeps running and doesn't shutdown or restart?  And then I have to hold down the power button to shutdown completely.......11:26
frojndso my computer become somekind of server..?11:26
Yorokobifrojnd, NIC to NIC? no router in between ?11:26
crookshankscan anyone point me to a howto about embedding media into firefox?  everything i've found doesn't really work11:27
frojndYorokobi: my computer has router, but yes for this second computer no router between, my computer woul supply with connection if that's even possible11:27
TheMolecrookshanks: Install the mplayer-mozilla package11:27
trentoncrookshanks: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html11:27
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crookshankstrenton: thanks11:28
Yorokobifrojnd, you'll need a ... I forgot what they're called, patch cable? (not straight through)11:28
TheMoleYorokobi: Yes, patch cable.11:28
frojndYorokobi: from my computer to another?11:28
saferDoes anyone know possible reasons/answer to my question above??11:28
Yorokobi!wifi > _benjo-11:28
Yorokobifrojnd, yep11:29
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_benjo-Yorkobi, what do you mean !wifi?11:29
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YorokobiYorokobi, if you're going to have 2 network cards (NICs) then you'll need to do some tricks with (D)NAT and iptables, too most likely11:29
frojndYorokobi: is this cable's name crossover?11:29
Yorokobi_benjo-, you should have another tab/window from ubotu about wifi11:30
sinpathok i think its installed right  so now how do i find my e drive??11:30
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_benjo-yorokobo, got it..thks11:30
Yorokobifrojnd, crossover ... patch ... same thing I believe11:31
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Yorokobisinpath, did the instructions tell you how to mount the drive ?11:31
Yorokobi(I have not read them)11:31
sinpathumm let me check11:31
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frojndYorokobi: great, so I will avoid 15m extra cable, just an extra network card and 2m of newtork cable :>11:32
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Yorokobifrojnd, if that's the distance between the computers11:32
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frojndYorokobi: mhm11:32
sinpathnot sure if i understand how to mount the drive11:32
Yorokobisinpath, 'sudo mount /mnt/somedir /dev/hd? -t ntfs' is the basics of the command.11:33
Powerking89670Either AraroK is being....itself. Or im still having sound issues11:33
sinpathok put that in kterm?11:34
alphi_hey guys, i am trying to install comedi on 6.10 (edgy) and am having some problems ( it doesn't like the linux kernel), so i tried to get a vanilla kernel and patch it with RTAI, but i can't find any of the distributions that have a patch for 2.6.15 . Could anyone help me out or point me in the direction of a guide that might be able to help ( i have been quite unsuccessful in my attempts to find one)11:34
pollyoAnyone know if the Reaktivate activeX for Konqueror is still being worked on anywhere?11:34
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alphi_would it be worth going back to one of the older distributions (6.06) and just using that ?11:35
Yorokobisinpath, not that exactly. You'll need to 'sudo mkdir /mnt/windows' (or whatever you want to call it) and subst /dev/hd? with whatever the drive is connected to.11:35
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sinpathhmm ok i'll try11:36
_benjo-Yorokobi, I think I found my problem..but I didn't see the resolution in the docs..I'm getting AccwssPoint: Not Associated error11:36
Yorokobi!paste | sinpath11:37
ubotusinpath: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:37
Yorokobisinpath, paste 'dmesg' to ^^^ then post the URL here11:37
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Yorokobisinpath, more precisely, paste the output of 'dmesg' to ^^^ :)11:37
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sinpaththe d mesg?11:38
Yorokobisinpath, dmesg is a command11:38
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Yorokobi!info dmesg > Yorokobi11:38
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henry_good night. Someone is brazilian?11:39
BluesKaj!br11:40
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.11:40
PLCbye11:40
PLC+11:40
tuxdoes one of you know where to vind the IPW3945 drivers? for intell wireless device11:40
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sinpathok i pasted it now what?11:41
KassanHello !11:41
Yorokobisinpath, what is the URL of the pasted-to site?11:41
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pollyoAnyone use Reaktivate within the last few years?11:41
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sinpathhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13596/11:42
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Kassani have a question : i can't start kubuntu, on logging it re boot... but in console mode it works ...11:42
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alphi_did you mess with the kernel ?11:42
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tuxthe're something wrong with the login manager Kassan11:43
alphi_i did that in my first attempted patch and it was unable to boot properly after that11:43
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tuxhad the same problem here11:43
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Yorokobisinpath, is the NTFS drive the Maxtor or the Seagate ?11:43
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Kassantux,  i think there's a problem with xhost !11:44
sinpathim not sure i understand the question11:44
tuxcould be11:44
tuxone of you know where to find IPW3945 drivers btw?11:44
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Powerking89670Lol. I just found out what my Sound problem was....problem exists between keyboard and chair apprently...11:44
Yorokobisinpath, okay. Type 'mount' and paste it to a new http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11:45
sinpath& if i dont get this problem fixed in the next 10 minutes i will have to swich over to windows to dj11:45
BluesKajforgot to connect the speakers , Powerking89670 ? :)11:45
Powerking89670no11:45
Powerking89670Im not sure what caused the sound that worked to work11:45
Powerking89670but I heard SOMETHING from the speakers11:45
sinpathhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13597/11:46
Yorokobisinpath, let's get it done before then (as I will be going home in 15 minutes :) )11:46
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sinpathlol  we will try hun11:46
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Yorokobisinpath, okay. 'sudo mkdir /mnt/windows' then 'sudo mount /mnt/windows /dev/hdd1 -t ntfs'11:47
Yorokobithat should work ... :)11:47
pollyoYorokobi: What does the -t do?11:47
Yorokobidid I just get "hun"ed?11:47
Yorokobipollyo, tells mount which filesystem to use11:47
pollyoYorokobi: Does ntfs give you read only?11:48
sinpathmkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/windows': File exists is what i get11:48
Powerking89670ntfs is always readonly, as any other way is unsafe11:48
pollyoYorokobi: I setup ntfs-3g for read and write to my ntfs.11:48
Yorokobisinpath, then skip that part and run the sudo mount... command11:48
Yorokobipollyo, I had sinpath run through that as well. Is there a different -t option for rw on ntfs ?11:49
pollyoYorokobi: I am not familiar so much with the inner workings of fstab and the configuration options.  I searched on some websites for the answers.11:49
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sinpathsays special device /mntwindows does not exist11:50
pollyoYorokobi: Though the ntfs-3g website had some straight forward suggestions for the fstab settings.11:50
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Yorokobisinpath, you need a / between /mnt and windows (/mnt/windows)11:50
sinpathhmm all i can think is it may be fat32 format but i know my windows is NTFs11:50
Yorokobipollyo, I should probably read that one of these days11:50
Yorokobisinpath, did it give you an error?11:51
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pollyoYorokobi: <grin>11:51
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karel-janhello11:51
karel-jancan someone help me?11:51
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Yorokobi!ask | karel-jan11:51
ubotukarel-jan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:51
sinpathi got this now11:51
sinpathmount: /mnt/windows is not a block device11:52
karel-janif the website states to add something to the repository, can someone tell me where?11:52
karel-jani'm new to linux11:52
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Yorokobisinpath, I may have mixed up the order ... try 'sudo moun /dev/hdd1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs'11:52
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Yorokobi!source-o-matic > karel-jan11:53
Yorokobikarel-jan, you've been PM'd by ubotu with instructions11:53
Kassando you know where are saved the information about the last session ?11:53
Yorokobi!repositories > karel-jan11:53
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`AnDy`how to get codecs on11:54
`AnDy`8-)11:54
sinpathmount: special device /mntwindows does not exist11:54
sinpath(rw,errors=remount-ro)11:54
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sinpathrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd1,11:55
Yorokobisinpath, try it without the '-t ntfs'11:55
_benjo-I just installle Kubuntu 6.10...whats up with Adept installer..its not showing any software for installation...I can't even find firefox to install??11:55
tuke__sinpath sudo fdisk -l11:55
Black_Cat_benjo-: did you enable repositories?11:56
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sinpathmount: you must specify the filesystem type11:56
Yorokobisinpath, try tuke__'s suggestion and look for the /dev/hdd entry11:56
sinpath*sigh*11:56
sinpathsudo: fdisk-l: command not found11:57
_benjo-Black_Cat, no I just installed it 20 mins ago. I have to "enable" repos??? HOw do I do that?11:57
pollyohttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_Windows_partitions_(DOS,_FAT,NTFS)11:57
pollyoWait that is for gentoo...11:57
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Yorokobiseparate fdisk and -l, sinpath11:57
pollyoThe info is straightforward though.11:57
karel-janthanx11:57
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_benjo-Black_Cat, I never had this issue when I installed 6.06...the first time i fired up adept it showed everything that was installed...this isn't even showing that11:58
nosrednaeki1what is wrong with KDE apps in fiesty and the internet? kmail and konqieror both won't get stuff(netowrk and everything is working..I'm typing this in GAIM)11:58
sinpathDisk /dev/hda: 61.4 GB, 61492838400 bytes11:58
zaki just downloaded the recent kubuntu beta, and i opened amarok and built the collection before i installed mp3 codecs [my collection being mostly mp3] , and now amarok will not open [and it was a little unstable before i closed it] ... i thought it might of been because the library is mostly mp3 so i installed the codec and still the same... suggestions?11:58
sinpathi think it worked11:58
_benjo-Black_Cat, I must be doing something wrong., but I don't know what..11:58
Black_Cat_benjo-: go to KMenu-System-Adept, then goto Manage repositories and enable (uncomment) all the lines starting with deb or deb-src11:58
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zaknosrednaeki1: same here - i gotta screw with konqueror and kopete to make them use the net [i thought it was just some strange dialup specific thing] 11:59
sinpathok now what do i do ?11:59
nosrednaeki1zak: erase your .kde/share/apps/amarok11:59
Yorokobisinpath, type mount again, what is the last line ?11:59
nosrednaeki1zak: I also am on dial up... but over ethernet...so that shouldn't be a problem12:00
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_benjo-Black_Cat, I know what I was doing wrong..I was clicking on Add/Remove programs....it looks just like Adept..12:00
nosrednaeki1zak: and install libxine-extracodecs(if you haven't already)12:00
Black_Cat_benjo-: it is adept, the other part of it to be exact :) best of luck to you.12:01
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sinpath   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System12:01
sinpath/dev/hdd1   *           1         523     4200966    b  W95 FAT3212:01
Yorokobisinpath, try 'ls /mnt/windows'12:02
nosrednaeki1links can also browse the web...just not konqueror...12:02
nosrednaeki1I should probably get the updated package...12:02
zakthanks nosrednaeki1 [i thought deleting the config/database might help, but i thought there might be some quick & simple solution too] 12:02
sinpathmount & then ls /mnt?12:02
trentonis there a way i can get the main menu bar to only display what is opened in that current desktop and not all the desktops?12:02
nosrednaeki1zak: right... well if you had settings left over from a previous instal.l..12:02
_benjo-Black_Cat, thanks12:02
nosrednaeki1it sometimes messes things up(did for me)12:03
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nosrednaeki1maybe there is a bug report..12:03
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Yorokobisinpath, if you type mount, the last line should be similar to /dev/sdb2 on /mnt/windows (extra stuff)12:03
Yorokobibut12:03
sinpathount: only root can do that12:03
sinpath$ mount ls /mnt/windows12:04
YorokobiIt looks like its fat32, not ntfs so ... if its not mounted 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/windows' should do it12:04
trentonanybody have an idea?12:04
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sinpathi got nothing that time12:04
nosrednaeki1trenton:yes12:05
leiaranybody experience with xvidcap or ffmpeg?12:05
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Yorokobisinpath, that may be good. :) try 'ls /mnt/windows' now12:05
leiarI can't record sound.  My error message: http://pastebin.ca/42155512:05
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sinpathok got some thing12:05
trentonnosrednaeki1: so how would i go about doing this?12:06
nosrednaeki1trenton: right click on the taskbar and say "configure" or whatever12:06
BluesKajleiar, ffmeg with tovid ..works well12:06
sinpathits everything on my drive12:06
sinpathwoot12:06
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Yorokobisinpath, if you want a Windows Explorer type interface, open Konqueror and type /mnt/windows in the location bar.12:07
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nosrednaeki1What the....12:07
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nosrednaeki1ummm...ok12:08
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nosrednaeki1trenton did you get my message?12:08
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Yorokobisinpath, did you get my pm (in a different tab or window)?12:08
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trenton_nosrednaeki1: ah, i've been in there numerous times and never saw that lol12:08
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nosrednaeki1ahh..12:08
LeeJunFanArgh! that at 100% of my cpu for a few mins :)12:08
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BluesKajsplittsville12:09
trenton_nosrednaeki1: guess i need to pay more attention lol12:09
leiarBluesKaj: It works with xvidcap too, but the error message given when i try to record aith both motion and sound, doesn't say me anything12:09
nosrednaeki1trenton_: it's no problem..12:09
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BluesKajsorry leiar, no experience with xvidcap ..I use tovid in the Konsole12:10
BluesKajwhat kind of file , leiar?12:10
trenton_so, what happened with the room? the server get overloaded or something?12:11
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BluesKajwe got a reroute notice just previous to the split12:11
trenton_ah ok12:11
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`AnDy`how can i wath movie :S..need codecs or something ?12:11
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BluesKaj!codecs | `AnDy`12:12
ubotu`AnDy`: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:12
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