[12:00] <[WaZ] > Oswy: lsmod | grep orinoco
[12:00] <ROnewbie> eduhat: should we go on private ?
[12:00] <eduhat> ROnewbie: i dont care
[12:01] <Oswy> I got a result.
[12:01] <eduhat> ROnewbie: why not
[12:01] <[WaZ] > Oswy: can you paste it?
[12:01] <Oswy> orinoco_pci             8320  0
[12:01] <Oswy> orinoco                45076  1 orinoco_pci
[12:01] <Oswy> hermes                  9472  2 orinoco_pci,orinoco
[12:02] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sorry, tought u said 1 result
[12:02] <Oswy> Oh, sorry.
[12:02] <[WaZ] > Oswy: try sudo rmmod orinoco
[12:02] <palbuddy> help please!  I bought a new canon 460 I was wondering if there was a way for ubuntu to recognize it?
[12:02] <palbuddy> sorry a460
[12:02] <[WaZ] > then modprobe ndiswrapper again
[12:02] <Oswy> Error.
[12:02] <[WaZ] > Oswy: try sudo rmmod orinoco_pci
[12:02] <Oswy> k
[12:03] <Oswy> k
[12:03] <Oswy> Still no wireless extensions
[12:03] <[WaZ] > then orinoco
[12:03] <Oswy> Oh, OK.
[12:03] <[WaZ] > then hermes
[12:03] <Oswy> Done.
[12:03] <jedidor> anyone know how to mount bin/cue files in a virtual drive?
[12:03] <nexusvr> pradalover: try http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[12:03] <Oswy> k
[12:03] <bruenig> !iso
[12:03] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[12:03] <[WaZ] > then sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:03] <duranxx> Hey guys, i just installed ubuntu but how do i find my other hard drives?
[12:04] <bruenig> duranxx, sudo fdisk -l
[12:04] <Oswy> Nope, still the same problem.
[12:04] <duranxx> in terminal?
[12:04] <[WaZ] > grrrr
[12:04] <Oswy> ><
[12:04] <Lord_Vader> nexusvr, no luck :*(
[12:04] <ROnewbie> eduhat: so, private ?
[12:04] <baktaah> Does VNC comes as default with Ubuntu, and I need version 4.1.1
[12:05] <eduhat> ROnewbie: im there dude
[12:05] <Lord_Vader> nexusvr, do you know how to change that using gconf?
[12:05] <nexusvr> Lord_Vader: thak you. Was just a try ...
[12:05] <[WaZ] > Oswy: rmmod orinoco_cs ?
[12:05] <Qball> baktaah: Filename: pool/universe/v/vnc/vncserver_3.3.7-13ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[12:05] <Oswy> Module does not exist.
[12:05] <ROnewbie> eduhat: dude, me too ... I sent you several lines
[12:05] <[WaZ] > k
[12:05] <eduhat> ROnewbie: me too
[12:05] <[WaZ] > lsmod?
[12:05] <ROnewbie> eduhat: ????
[12:06] <[WaZ] > lsmod | grep orinoco
[12:06] <eduhat> ROnewbie: i see all of them... you dont see myne?
[12:06] <Oswy> OK...
[12:06] <nexis> hi anyone alive?
[12:06] <ROnewbie> eduhat: none
[12:06] <Voldemort> alguien habla espaol
[12:06] <Tw1sted> (eduhat): i cant see your either
[12:06] <nexis> i keep getting this msg when i connect my camera.. An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device
[12:06] <Alonea> !es
[12:06] <JollyJester> hey everyone! Anyone ever get a Broadcom wireless card to work? I'm having trouble with one.
[12:06] <eduhat> ROnewbie: then we can talk here
[12:06] <[WaZ] > Oswy: are they gone?
[12:06] <ROnewbie> ok
[12:06] <nexis> anyone know what the problem is
[12:06] <ROnewbie> eduhat: k
[12:06] <nexis> ?
[12:06] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:06] <Oswy> No result.
[12:06] <Oswy> So I assume so.
[12:06] <[WaZ] > yeah
[12:06] <eduhat> i like the edubuntu :D
[12:07] <ROnewbie> eduhat: so how do I start ?
[12:07] <ferronica> how do i upgrade nicotine???
[12:08] <eduhat> ROnewbie: what do you want to do? connect to your wireless AP?
[12:08] <ferronica_> how to upgrade my NICOTINE
[12:08] <Tw1sted> so can any 1 help me with ubuntu 6.10 isntal issues
[12:08] <ROnewbie> eduhat: yes
[12:08] <eduhat> Tw1sted: i can...
[12:08] <mon^rch> hey ppl! is there an easy dvd ripper for ubuntu? a couple a clicks and I got a nice rip with no audio lag?
[12:08] <[WaZ] > Oswy: try blacklisting the two orinoco module (orinoco and orinoco_pci)
[12:08] <Oswy> How do I do that?
[12:08] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:08] <Tw1sted> (eduhat): yeah but i cant see ur pm's or cant u see mine :P
[12:08] <eduhat> ROnewbie: is your card recognized by ubunut?
[12:08] <nexusvr> Lord_Vader: not found... hmm... only a "gnome foot icon" ...
[12:08] <[WaZ] > then add "blacklist orinoco"
[12:09] <ferronica_> [WaZ] : hi
[12:09] <Oswy> Just tack it on at the end?
[12:09] <[WaZ] > ferronica_: hey
[12:09] <eduhat> Tw1sted: i dont think you can see mine... i could see all of yours
[12:09] <PriceChild> !es | Voldemort
[12:09] <[WaZ] > Oswy: yes
[12:09] <ubotu> Voldemort: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:09] <Lord_Vader> nexusvr, k..
[12:09] <Oswy> Done.
[12:09] <[WaZ] > sudo depmod -a
[12:09] <ferronica_> [WaZ] : how to upgrade my NICOTINE
[12:09] <ROnewbie> eduhat: I really don't think so ... I'm no expert, but no
[12:09] <eduhat> ROnewbie: is your card recognized by ubuntu
[12:09] <[WaZ] > ferronica_: smoking is bad
[12:09] <ferronica_> [WaZ] : lol
[12:09] <ROnewbie> eduhat: how can I find that out for sure ? I don't think so
[12:09] <eduhat> ROnewbie: sudo iwconfig
[12:10] <JollyJester> I'm trying to get a Broadcom 4311 wireless card to work. I've followed several wiki's and howto's to no avail. Anyone have any idea how to install one of these. I've got ndiswrapper saying driver and hardware present, but modprobe ndiswrapper gives an error
[12:10] <ROnewbie> eduhat: lo        no wireless extensions.
[12:10] <ROnewbie> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"
[12:10] <ROnewbie>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[12:10] <ROnewbie>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[12:10] <ROnewbie>           Encryption key:off
[12:10] <ROnewbie>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[12:10] <ROnewbie>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[12:10] <Tw1sted> (eduhat): did u get my last mesege?
[12:10] <[WaZ] > ferronica_: it should upgrade automatically if its from ubuntu repos
[12:10] <ROnewbie>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[12:10] <cables> !paste | ROnewbie
[12:10] <ubotu> ROnewbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:10] <ROnewbie> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[12:10] <ferronica_> [WaZ] : tell me please
[12:10] <ROnewbie> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[12:10] <[WaZ] > !paste ROnewbie
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste ronewbie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <eduhat> Tw1sted: yes i did
[12:10] <ROnewbie> ubotu: MY BAD
[12:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about my bad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:10] <crimsun> JollyJester: pastebin the error, please, and tell us the url
[12:10] <ROnewbie> sorry
[12:10] <[WaZ] > !paste > ROnewbie
[12:11] <ROnewbie> SORRY, SORRY
[12:11] <ROnewbie> first time user
[12:11] <[WaZ] > lol didn't see cables
[12:11] <eduhat> ROnewbie: so your card is recognized by ubuntu... try dhclient eth1
[12:11] <sorcere12> how do i register to send messages privately ?
[12:11] <cables> !register | sorcere12
[12:11] <ubotu> sorcere12: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:11] <eduhat> **sudo dhclient eth1
[12:11] <Tw1sted> soucere12: /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[12:11] <sorcere12> !register | sorcerer12
[12:11] <ubotu> sorcerer12: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[12:11] <[WaZ] > Oswy: any luck?
[12:11] <Oswy> Oh.
[12:12] <Oswy> Should I iwconfig again?
[12:12] <[WaZ] > Oswy: yeah ;-)
[12:12] <Oswy> Heh.
[12:12] <Oswy> Still none.
[12:12] <ROnewbie> eduhat: how do I paste ?
[12:12] <[WaZ] > grrrr
[12:12] <eduhat> Tw1sted: allright, i sent you a request
[12:12] <eduhat> ROnewbie: www.pastebin.ca
[12:12] <cables> eduhat, ubuntu has one
[12:12] <[WaZ] > Oswy: im starting to think theres a problem with your driver
[12:12] <cables> !paste | ROnewbie
[12:12] <ubotu> ROnewbie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <Tw1sted> (eduhat): on which 1 :P
[12:12] <khermans> i am getting -> "error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-xlib.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:12] <Oswy> Hmm.
[12:12] <Oswy> How could that be, though/
[12:12] <khermans> but it exists!
[12:12] <Oswy> ?
[12:12] <ROnewbie> !paste Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4
[12:12] <ROnewbie> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[12:12] <ROnewbie> All rights reserved.
[12:12] <ROnewbie> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
[12:12] <ROnewbie> can't create /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.leases: Permission denied
[12:12] <ROnewbie> Can't create /var/run/dhclient.pid: Permission denied
[12:12] <eduhat> Tw1sted: on xfire
[12:12] <Oswy> I just followed all the instructions.
[12:12] <ROnewbie> drop_privileges: could not set group id: Operation not permitted
[12:12] <ROnewbie> ionut@ionut-laptop:~$
[12:13] <ROnewbie> SORRY AGAIN
[12:13] <ROnewbie> god damn
[12:13] <Oswy> ...
[12:13] <eduhat> ROnewbie: dont paste here..
[12:13] <JollyJester> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper(/lib.modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers.net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[12:13] <mon^rch> relax
[12:13] <Oswy> I mean, I think I tried with the win2k and other drivers, none of which worked, IIRC.
[12:13] <eduhat> ROnewbie: sudo dhclient eth1
[12:13] <ROnewbie> I know, I know, I sent it to you too, but it doesn't seem to reach you
[12:13] <Draconicus> Ugh... So...... much.....
[12:13] <leiar_> I need help to add audio to a video with ffmepg, if possible
[12:13] <baktaah> What ports to open for Remote Desktop?
[12:14] <crdlb> leiar_, that would probably be possible with mencoder
[12:14] <Draconicus> I just don't understand what's going on. dmesg doesn't report a problem. Hell, nothing reports a problem. The system, or at least X, inexplicably locks up every time I try to play any kind of video, and I'm rather sick of it at this point.
[12:14] <leiar_> crdlb: I'll try #ffmpeg
[12:14] <eduhat> ROnewbie: i cant help you past this point
[12:14] <Draconicus> I'm going to try changing my video card, only because I'm a little wary of this one. All the same, I don't think that's the porblem.
[12:14] <eduhat> i need to read up on wifi as it is
[12:14] <jetscreamer> try #mplayer
[12:14] <crdlb> Draconicus, what if you use X11 output?
[12:14] <eduhat> but i thought you needed your card recognized
[12:14] <[WaZ] > Oswy: im looking into Prism 2.5
[12:14] <OuZo> i have windows codes but totem cant play wmv, but vlc can. is there a way to fix this?
[12:14] <Lewix> how do i update amsn
[12:14] <crdlb> Draconicus, mplayer -vo x11 movie.avi
[12:15] <Jeeva> whats the default phpGaAdmin login ?
[12:15] <cables> !botsnack
[12:15] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:15] <baktaah> What ports to open for Remote Desktop - And what VNC is required to connect to it?
[12:15] <ROnewbie> eduhat: I'm gettin something along the lines "the network is doesn"
[12:15] <ROnewbie> every 8 secs or so
[12:15] <eduhat> ROnewbie: the network what?
[12:15] <eduhat> ROnewbie: join /eduhat
[12:15] <JollyJester> small error, so I didn't think pastebin was necessary. sorry
[12:15] <ferronica> [WaZ] : can you tell me??
[12:15] <ferronica> [WaZ] : how do i update it
[12:16] <Oswy> [WaZ] : OK. Don't know what this, haha, but I trust you. :)
[12:16] <Oswy> Is it just a driver?
[12:16] <[WaZ] > Oswy: yeah
[12:16] <[WaZ] > Oswy: remove the lines I told you to blacklist
[12:16] <ROnewbie> eduhat: "is down", sorry, fast typing
[12:16] <Jeeva> Login to PostgreSQL
[12:16] <Jeeva> whats the default login
[12:16] <Jeeva> ?
[12:16] <[WaZ] > Oswy: then blacklist the ons listed in this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288649
[12:16] <delsvr> ROnewbie, if your card is already recognized, it's best you use gnome's NetworkManager to establish your connections
[12:16] <Oswy> So unblacklist orinoco?
[12:17] <Oswy> k
[12:17] <eduhat> ROnewbie: there you go
[12:17] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[12:17] <ROnewbie> join /eduhat
[12:17] <Oswy> k
[12:17] <eduhat> ROnewbie: /join eduhat
[12:17] <[WaZ] > done?
[12:17] <corevette> how do you change the splash screen before you log on....?
[12:18] <Oswy> OK, done.
[12:18] <ferronica> [WaZ] : how do i update it
[12:18] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo rmmod ndiswraper
[12:18] <ROnewbie> eduhat: it doesn't work; but here's the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13435/
[12:18] <Jawshie> Ok. This is an insanely large community... certainly somebody will be willing to help me :P      I want to install Feisty beta or RC when it comes out on my machine to get its usability asap but dont want to have to completely reinstall when the final comes out. Is there an upgrade path or an apt-get for it when it comes out or does anybody know?
[12:18] <[WaZ] > ferronica: don't know
[12:18] <delsvr> corevette, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:18] <Oswy> OK, done.
[12:18] <[WaZ] > ferronica: I don't know everything
[12:18] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo depmod -a
[12:18] <delsvr> corevette, remove "splash" from whichever entry you use to boot
[12:18] <Oswy> k
[12:19] <[WaZ] > Oswy: then iwconfig again
[12:19] <JollyJester> paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13438
[12:19] <Oswy> Nope.
[12:19] <Oswy> ><
[12:19] <LjL> !bot > cables    (cables, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:19] <[WaZ] > Oh come on!
[12:19] <delsvr> Jawshie, you'd just update your sources.list, and then: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:19] <Oswy> I know, seriously.
[12:19] <Oswy> This is really pissing me off.
[12:20] <Jawshie> Delsvr, update sources.list with what exactly? :P
[12:20] <JollyJester> crimsun: did you get a chance to look at that?
[12:21] <delsvr> Jawshie, just direct the mirrors to look at Feisty
[12:21] <[WaZ] > Oswy: are you using Feisty by any chance?
[12:21] <Oswy> Edgy.
[12:21] <Jawshie> Ah ok
[12:21] <Jawshie> by the time it comes around I will probably screw it up somehoq
[12:21] <Jawshie> how*
[12:22] <delsvr> Jawshie, are you on Dapper now?
[12:22] <XanSama> Is there an effective difference between the install CD and the install DVD?
[12:22] <Jawshie> no unfortunatly
[12:22] <crimsun> JollyJester: looking
[12:22] <Jawshie> darn the luck
[12:23] <Jawshie> But explain it anyways
[12:23] <Jawshie> If you like hehe
[12:23] <JollyJester> crimsun: thanks
[12:23] <delsvr> XanSama, swapping media
[12:23] <DesertEagle> hello people!
[12:24] <DesertEagle> :D
[12:24] <DesertEagle> has anyone had experience with the ubuntu compilation of gimpshop?
[12:24] <DesertEagle> it tosses files to the doc directory... which is weird
[12:24] <XanSama> delsvr: swapping media?
[12:24] <Bennie> Hi, can anyone tell me how to use WINE on Ubuntu?
[12:25] <[WaZ] > Oswy: unblacklist everything
[12:25] <delsvr> XanSama, changing CDs during installation
[12:25] <Oswy> The entire blacklist file?
[12:25] <delsvr> XanSama, so effectively, no there is no real difference
[12:25] <j3g> any fast video converter for linux? avi/etc -> dvd .... transcode works fine but it is converting at 1/5 the speed I get on winavi for windows :(
[12:25] <Oswy> Or just those four?
[12:25] <[WaZ] > Oswy: no the ones i told you
[12:25] <crimsun> JollyJester: please add `dmesg' output to that paste
[12:25] <Oswy> k
[12:25] <[WaZ] > Oswy: then try this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/63989
[12:26] <Jawshie> Bennie, its really quite simple. Typically EXE files are defaulted to wine. Otherwise you can use Alt+F2 and type:  wine /dire/ctor/y
[12:26] <Jawshie> Anything you install should appear on your Applications menu
[12:26] <XanSama> delsvr: haha alright. thanks.
[12:27] <JollyJester> crimsun: done
[12:27] <Oswy> [WaZ] : Put all 4 in.
[12:27] <Bennie> Jawshie, I keep getting a "module not found message"
[12:27] <crimsun> JollyJester: url?
[12:27] <[WaZ] > Oswy: where?
[12:27] <Jawshie> Bennie, how did you install WINE?
[12:27] <Oswy> Terminal
[12:28] <[WaZ] > Oswy: iwconfig?
[12:28] <Oswy> OMG IT WORKS
[12:28] <JollyJester> crimsun: paste.ubuntu.org/13441
[12:28] <[WaZ] > YES!
[12:28] <[WaZ] > :D
[12:28] <Oswy> Thanks so much!
[12:28] <JollyJester> crimsun: sorry about that, zoned a minute
[12:28] <[WaZ] > Oswy: wanna get network manager?
[12:28] <xenubuntu> ive got samba up and running and i am able to access files in both directions from linux to windows and windows to linux, but why is it that i cant open a file over the network from my linux box, but my windows box can open a file on my linux box over the network?  limitation of samba? or setting?
[12:28] <[WaZ] > Oswy: easier to connect to wifi networks
[12:28] <Oswy> Hmm, what?
[12:28] <Oswy> Oh.
[12:29] <Oswy> I already set up my network.
[12:29] <Oswy> Actually.
[12:29] <[WaZ] > Oswy: okay then
[12:29] <Oswy> Let me disable the ethernet and see if it works.
[12:29] <Oswy> But thanks.
[12:29] <[WaZ] > Oswy: allright
[12:29] <xenubuntu> i have to copy the file over first if i want to watch a video for instnace. instead of just opening it up over the network
[12:29] <fr500_> xenubuntu: with what program?
[12:29] <Bennie> I think it was already installed in the Office apps - at least it show it in the install dialog as checked, but it does not appear in the Applications dropdown list
[12:29] <fr500_> xenubuntu: not all programs support gnome-vfs
[12:29] <crimsun> JollyJester: ok, now please add `tail /var/log/syslog'
[12:29] <xenubuntu> any media player im pretty sure, but ive tried vlc
[12:29] <fr500_> xenubuntu: try totem
[12:30] <fr500_> xenubuntu: you should hard mount the shares if you want access from any app
[12:30] <DesertEagle> grub can't have games like LILO can it?
[12:30] <fr500_> xenubuntu: not all apps support gnome-vfs as i say
[12:30] <subliminal727> i have a problem with firefox 2.0 and feisty,  im at the beryl-themes.org site and when i click on download links for images its trying to download a download.php file instead of the actual image... anyone know anything about this?
[12:30] <xenubuntu> fr500, oh cool thanks
[12:30] <fr500_> DesertEagle: games?
[12:30] <Qball> games in boot manager is so lame
[12:30] <DesertEagle> fr500_: like pong and stuff
[12:30] <DesertEagle> hey! >=( i happen to like them
[12:30] <DesertEagle> :D
[12:31] <JollyJester> crimsun: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13442
[12:32] <DesertEagle> subliminal727: no issue here
[12:33] <coldboot> Where can I find a list of the Ubuntu kernel patches?
[12:34] <subliminal727> yeah Desert it works for everyone else it seems, i must have something configured wrong
[12:34] <crimsun> coldboot: see our git trees.
[12:34] <Draconicus> crdlb: Well, I tried xv for output. I'll try x11 and let you know how it goes. Maybe after that I'll give fbdev or directfb a try.
[12:34] <crimsun> coldboot: hera.kernel.org/git/   (see ubuntu-*.git)
[12:34] <Draconicus> In any event, what good will it do? It won't fix my problem if I find the one that works...
[12:34] <crimsun> coldboot: in any case, you won't find an explicit list. Walk the commits.
[12:34] <crdlb> Draconicus, I can /almost/ guarantee you that x11 will not crash X
[12:34] <hole_> is there a way to make glxgears spit out the fps
[12:35] <crdlb> Draconicus, because if it did, you'd be getting crashes all the time in other apps
[12:35] <coldboot> crimsun: I'm trying to install a Vanilla 2.6.19.1 kernel, but I thought it might be important to get some Ubuntu patches. I have Edgy. Should I worry about it that much?
[12:36] <crimsun> coldboot: depends on your hardware.
[12:36] <crimsun> JollyJester: which version of ndiswrapper is this?
[12:36] <Lewix> how do I go back from a directory
[12:36] <Lewix> How do I erase a directory again??
[12:36] <Jenn> I get this error: "Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/Jenn/0/numlock_on": ` ' is an invalid character in key/directory names." how do I disable this? I had followed the ubuntu wiki guide to solve this.
[12:36] <mon^rch> cd ..
[12:37] <Lewix> mon^rch, ohh so cd..
[12:37] <Lewix> doesnt work
[12:37] <DGMurdockIII> hi
[12:37] <mon^rch> cd (space) ..
[12:37] <DGMurdockIII> can you see this
[12:37] <Lewix> that space is stupid
[12:37] <Lewix> ^^
[12:37] <Lewix> mon^rch, how do I delette a directory?
[12:37] <hole_> is there a way to make glxgears display  the fps its running
[12:37] <Jenn> I get this error when I press the numberlock key: "Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/Jenn/0/numlock_on": ` ' is an invalid character in key/directory names." how do I disable this? I had followed the ubuntu wiki guide to solve a numberlock issue but I keep getting this error ever since.
[12:38] <Lewix> how to I install a *deb from the cmd?
[12:38] <mon^rch> sudo rm -R <dir>
[12:38] <Lewix> hole_, yes
[12:38] <DGMurdockIII> hi
[12:38] <Lewix> hole_,  glxgears -printfps
[12:38] <Lewix> mon^rch, thanks
[12:38] <JollyJester> crimsun: I'm not sure, I used apt-get to install it
[12:38] <hole_> thx
[12:38] <Draconicus> AHA!
[12:38] <mon^rch> Lewix: np dude
[12:38] <Draconicus> I found the problem, and it is, in fact, what I hoped it would not be.
[12:39] <DGMurdockIII> my dad is going to be asking you guys some qustions in a in like 20 min or so
[12:39] <DGMurdockIII> about dual booting
[12:39] <Lewix> mon^rch, any idea how do I install a *deb from the command line? apt-get install *deb?
[12:39] <[WaZ] > wb Oswy_
[12:39] <Oswy> Thanks.
[12:39] <[WaZ] > worked?
[12:39] <Oswy> I still have a problem.
[12:39] <[WaZ] > ah
[12:39] <DGMurdockIII> he will be on my computer
[12:39] <crimsun> JollyJester: depending on your wifi hardware, you _may_ need a newer version of ndiswrapper than what's available in edgy
[12:39] <Oswy> But this should be easier.
[12:39] <syberdave> hmm, how do i get an ipod to automount? the filesystem doesn't identify itself as fat32
[12:39] <Draconicus> The awesome nVidia TX-something video card that miraculously started working when I put it in my brother's computer (never worked before) is to blame. Either it's been overheating or it's not working right anymore. Either way, it's the problem.
[12:39] <syberdave> and i ahve to mount using -t vfat
[12:40] <[WaZ] > okay
[12:40] <Oswy> [WaZ] : It's recognizing it as eth1.
[12:40] <hole_> it looks like they arent moving very fast but 693 frames in 5.9 seconds = 118.363 FPS is this good?
[12:40] <Jawshie> Lewix:  sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[12:40] <JollyJester> crimsun: I'll download/compile the latest from the website and see what happens
[12:40] <[WaZ] > sudo gedit /etc/networkin/interfaces
[12:40] <Jenn> I get this error when I press the numberlock key: "Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/Jenn/0/numlock_on": ` ' is an invalid character in key/directory names." how do I disable this? I had followed the ubuntu wiki guide to solve a numberlock issue but I keep getting this error ever since.
[12:40] <Oswy> I dunno if that's a problem, but then it seems to be connected and all, but it still won't work for it being read still, I think, as ethernet.
[12:40] <[WaZ] > networking
[12:40] <Oswy> hole_: Yes, that's very good.
[12:40] <Oswy> k
[12:40] <hole_> even though it does not appear to work well?
[12:41] <Jawshie> Hole_: your eyes cant even see that fast
[12:41] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:41] <NickGarvey> when I run "df -h", it says a partition is 91GB, but when I run parted or cfdisk, it says it is 211GB, I had resized it from 91GB to 211GB recently, but I am not sure why it has not updated, I have rebooted
[12:41] <sabotai> does anyone know the link for troubleshootin ati graphics driver?
[12:41] <hole_> k i gotcha
[12:41] <[WaZ] > change it there
[12:41] <[WaZ] > to wlan0
[12:42] <DGMurdockIII> hi
[12:42] <tonyrome> is their a way for me to see what version  of drivers i have running on my ubuntu install to see if i have the newest ones ?
[12:42] <neil__> which are you after? graphics?
[12:42] <eduhat> can someone help me get hostap working with ubuntu for my wireless card... right now its using orinoco
[12:42] <Oswy> OK, wtf, [WaZ] .
[12:42] <Oswy> It says there's eth0 and wlan0.
[12:42] <tonyrome> ya i have a 7800gt oc i want to make sure i have the newest nvida graphic cards in
[12:43] <neil__> glxinfo|grep "OpenGL version string"
[12:43] <[WaZ] > Oswy: yeah thats normal
[12:43] <faeryNatsuki> somebody used UCK?
[12:43] <Jenn>  I get this error when I press the numberlock key: "Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/Jenn/0/numlock_on": ` ' is an invalid character in key/directory names." how do I disable this? I had followed the ubuntu wiki guide to solve a numberlock issue but I keep getting this error ever since.
[12:43] <Lewix> mon^rch, 10x
[12:43] <[WaZ] > Oswy: wait, before or after you changed it?
[12:43] <faeryNatsuki> i ned to know if the modifications you made tio a live CD are installed from that live CD
[12:43] <neil__> faeryNatsuki: no
[12:43] <Jawshie> faery, no
[12:43] <sorcere12> how do i change my refresh rate using the ubunut live cd?
[12:43] <neil__> faeryNatsuki: its all stored in ram, temporary
[12:43] <Oswy> What was I supposed to change?
[12:43] <[WaZ] > Oswy: lol okay
[12:43] <mon^rch> Lewix: 10X???
[12:44] <Oswy> Heh.
[12:44] <[WaZ] > Oswy: so before
[12:44] <Oswy> Yeah.
[12:44] <sabotai> does any1 know why my screen goes black everytime i open planet penguin racer or screensaver?
[12:44] <[WaZ] > Oswy: mind if I make you install network-manager?
[12:44] <faeryNatsuki> mmm, but if i launch the setup tool from the Live CD the become reflected in the installed disk?
[12:44] <Oswy> I guess.
[12:44] <[WaZ] > Oswy: you'll be able to connect to wifi networks on the fly
[12:44] <faeryNatsuki> mm maybe i made the wrong question
[12:44] <Jenn>  I get this error when I press the numberlock key: "Bad key or directory name: "/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/Jenn/0/numlock_on": ` ' is an invalid character in key/directory names." how do I disable this? I had followed the ubuntu wiki guide to solve a numberlock issue but I keep getting this error ever since.
[12:44] <binfalse> hello
[12:45] <tonyrome> last questoin is i went to system pref desktop effects and i clicked that cube thing ... my question is how do i use it ... lol
[12:45] <tonyrome> like my windows do the crazy things
[12:45] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[12:45] <faeryNatsuki> I want to know, supose i made a customized live CD, i added amarok to an Ubuntu Live CD
[12:45] <Lewix> mon^rch, : thanks
[12:45] <tonyrome> like do i hold alt or something to get it to flip around
[12:45] <faeryNatsuki> I want to know if this amarok become installed on disk if i launch the install tool from the Live CD
[12:46] <neil__> faeryNatsuki: no
[12:46] <Jawshie> tony, ctrl + alt + hold mouse and move it around
[12:46] <neil__> I installed graphics drivers in the live cd to test them out
[12:46] <neil__> didnt touch my pc :)
[12:46] <Oswy> [WaZ] : Heh, guess I'm getting it after all.
[12:46] <Oswy> Anyway, finished install.
[12:46] <tonyrome> hmm what if that dnst work ? is their another option i have to turn on ?
[12:46] <faeryNatsuki> just the changes become reflected to the Live CD but does not affect the installation process
[12:46] <binfalse> not sure
[12:46] <faeryNatsuki> :(
[12:46] <[WaZ] > Oswy: after sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and put a # in front of everything except the two first lines which should refer to l0
[12:46] <dimeotane> anyone know if my usb keyboard should show up if I do a lsusb?
[12:47] <cables> dimeotane, it should
[12:47] <Jawshie> dimeo, do it and find out
[12:47] <dimeotane> it doesn't
[12:47] <Jawshie> does it work?
[12:47] <dimeotane> it's one of those cool flexible keyboards
[12:47] <Oswy> Oh crap.
[12:47] <[WaZ] > Oswy: after save and exit
[12:47] <Oswy> I just found a whole lot of other stuff.
[12:47] <[WaZ] > Oswy: what?
[12:47] <Oswy> eth1 was there all along.
[12:48] <Jawshie> dimeotane: does the keyboard work?
[12:48] <dimeotane> nope
[12:48] <Meph> hi there
[12:48] <[WaZ] > Oswy: network-manager is much easier to use
[12:48] <delcoyote> hi all, need help with a samba issue, cant uninstall it, and cant update packages because of samba
[12:48] <Oswy> Should I rename eth1 as wlan0 and try again?
[12:48] <Oswy> Oh, k.
[12:48] <Jawshie> dimeotane: did you try a different usb port
[12:48] <[WaZ] > Oswy: just comment them out
[12:48] <[WaZ] > Oswy: exept the two lines about l0
[12:48] <Oswy> k
[12:48] <eduhat> can someone help me get hostap working with ubuntu for my wireless card... right now its using orinoco
[12:48] <Oswy> Done.
[12:48] <[WaZ] > save and exit
[12:49] <Oswy> Yup.
[12:49] <[WaZ] > then press alt-f2 and type nm-applet
[12:49] <dimeotane> the caps lock light does come on at first
[12:49] <devin_> Just wondering, is there a way to replace konqueror with krusader if so how?
[12:49] <[WaZ] > Oswy: you should have a new icon
[12:49] <str4`> hi
[12:49] <Oswy> Yup.
[12:49] <[WaZ] > Oswy: left click on it
[12:49] <delcoyote> is it possible to unistall samba with rescue mode at boot?
[12:49] <delcoyote> im running out of ideas
[12:49] <\\Sav\\> hi all
[12:49] <[WaZ] > Oswy: should show your wifi network
[12:50] <Oswy> Only the wired.
[12:50] <faeryNatsuki> did somebody used Reconstructor?
[12:50] <sangre> hi, everybody, how do I set a program to start at startup?  I want to run a program that can run in a terminal (but I don't need to se it)
[12:50] <[WaZ] > Oswy: what does it show when you left click on it?
[12:50] <str4`> you tell me
[12:50] <Pollywog> sangre: kde?
[12:50] <Oswy> h/o a sec
[12:50] <[WaZ] > does it show enable wireless
[12:50] <[WaZ] > ?
[12:50] <Oswy> Nope.
[12:50] <sangre> Pollywog: gnome
[12:50] <[WaZ] > okay
[12:51] <Pollywog> oh I don't know how in Gnome
[12:51] <[WaZ] > depmod -a then redo the for lines i last gave you
[12:51] <[WaZ] > Oswy: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/63989
[12:51] <Oswy> Hmm?
[12:51] <[WaZ] > those 4
[12:51] <Oswy> You mean put all the #s again?
[12:51] <Pollywog> I think it would work if you put an exec line in ~/.xsession but it is not the best solution
[12:51] <[WaZ] > Oswy: no, the 4 in link
[12:51] <Oswy> Oh.
[12:51] <Oswy> k
[12:52] <\\Sav\\> i have problems with large files of swf , they get all my memory in my ubuntu Edgy Eft , im using flash 9... any idea about this??
[12:52] <Guest72508> [WaZ]  takes it up the ass
[12:52] <Oswy> Done.
[12:52] <[WaZ] > Oswy: left click the icon again
[12:52] <cables> @lart doesthisworkhere me
[12:52] <Oswy> Still nothing.
[12:52] <[WaZ] > oh come one
[12:52] <[WaZ] > on
[12:52] <tonyrome> ya for some reason pressing ctrl alt and my mouse button dose not make my cube work ... anybody have any ideas ?
[12:52] <[WaZ] > alt-f2 killall nm-applet
[12:53] <cables> tonyrome, you have to set that in beryl manager
[12:53] <[WaZ] > then alt-f2 nm-applet
[12:53] <tonyrome> you want me to hit alt-f2 nm-applet?
[12:53] <Pollywog> what is the best way to send URL's from one machine to another on a LAN?
[12:53] <Oswy> No dice.
[12:53] <tonyrome> where is the beryl manager?
[12:53] <[WaZ] > iwconfig?
[12:53] <Oswy> tonyrome: That was for me.
[12:53] <Oswy> Still eth1...
[12:53] <cables> tonyrome, are you using compiz or beryl?
[12:54] <Jawshie> Sangre: Just add your program to the Startup Programs tab in System -> Preferences -> Sessions and delete the programs you don't want to start from the same tab.
[12:54] <tonyrome> ubuntu
[12:54] <tonyrome> 7.02
[12:54] <cables> tonyrome, Feisty's built in effects, or Beryl?
[12:54] <tonyrome> i guess built in effects
[12:54] <tonyrome> i just went to system
[12:54] <cables> tonyrome, go to #ubuntu-effects
[12:54] <[WaZ] > Oswy: in System>Administration>Networking is it enabled?
[12:54] <tonyrome> desktop effects
[12:54] <tonyrome> and clicked cube
[12:54] <cables> tonyrome, #ubuntu-effects for compiz or beryl help
[12:54] <tonyrome> k
[12:54] <sangre> Jawshie: i don't see a startup programs tab
[12:55] <Oswy> No, but neither is eth0.
[12:55] <Draconicus> crdlb: It wasn't the video card. It still locks up. Just not as soon.
[12:55] <madman91>  i know this isnt stricly linux related.. but is there some sort of hub i can use to connect my one mouse - one keyboard - one monitor .. to two computers..
[12:55] <[WaZ] > Oswy: yeah thats normal
[12:55] <Jawshie> Sangre which version are you using my bad
[12:55] <Oswy> OK...
[12:55] <Pollywog> madman a kvm
[12:55] <Draconicus> madman91: It's called a KVM switch.
[12:55] <[WaZ] > Oswy: I guess that's why it didn't work sooner
[12:55] <ardchoille> madman91: Buy a kvm switch
[12:55] <madman91> kvm? thanks Draconicus + ardchoille
[12:55] <Oswy> Well, it was enabled before.
[12:55] <Draconicus> madman91: They're generally expensive, but damned handy. Little box with a switch or button.
[12:55] <sangre> Jawshie: ubuntu 6.10
[12:56] <TSCHAK> how can I get automake-1.5 on edgy
[12:56] <delcoyote> madman91:  you can connect as far as 4 computers as far as i know
[12:56] <tonyrome> #ubuntu-effects
[12:56] <Draconicus> maddler: Good ones do four or more. Cheaper ones do two.
[12:56] <Pollywog> sudo apt-get install automake1.5
[12:56] <tonyrome> sorry trying to figure out how to get their
[12:56] <madman91> delcoyote: thats insane !
[12:56] <TSCHAK> Pollywog, doesn't existr
[12:56] <[WaZ] > Oswy: it is disabled because you commented the lines in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:56] <Pollywog> oic
[12:56] <Draconicus> Purple soup.
[12:56] <Draconicus> Okay, so...
[12:56] <delcoyote> madman91: with kvm switch, well i am insane then
[12:56] <TSCHAK> I just need to get the cvs version of lirc compiled :-(
[12:56] <faeryNatsuki> help for your help
[12:56] <faeryNatsuki> :)
[12:56] <edivaldo> fabio?
[12:57] <faeryNatsuki> sorry
[12:57] <faeryNatsuki> thanks for your help
[12:57] <faeryNatsuki> take care
[12:57] <Pollywog> and automke 1.6 or newer won't work?
[12:57] <faeryNatsuki> ;)
[12:57] <Jawshie> sangre: are you trying to do it at boot or when you log in?
[12:57] <[WaZ] > Oswy: when you depmoded, you did sudo depmod -a right?
[12:57] <Draconicus> VIDEO FILES. They all stopped working. In fact, just about everything that uses a certain kind of video output has stopped working, so I'm just gonna figure out what it is and leave you alone.
[12:57] <[WaZ] > or just depmod -a
[12:57] <sangre> Jawshie: either way
[12:57] <edivaldo> o fabio nogueira est nesse chat?
[12:57] <Oswy> Done, and un-#'d.
[12:57] <nickk> does anyone know how to load a script (self written) on startup?
[12:57] <crimsun> nickk: see /etc/rc.local
[12:57] <dimas> does anybody knows if "creative live! cam vista IM" WORKS ON UBUNTU? IS A WEBCAM
[12:57] <[WaZ] > Oswy: you didn't have to ;-)
[12:58] <Oswy> Oh.
[12:58] <Oswy> Heh.
[12:58] <Oswy> Oh well.
[12:58] <bruenig> !webcam | dimas
[12:58] <ubotu> dimas: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:58] <bruenig> !english | dimas
[12:58] <ubotu> dimas: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:58] <[WaZ] > Oswy: the whole point is to make network-manager use it
[12:58] <nickk> crimsun, i'm looking at it right now... should I just add my code at the end of whatever is already there?
[12:58] <Oswy> Oh, k.
[12:58] <Oswy> Let me re-put it in, then.
[12:58] <[WaZ] > Oswy: okay
[12:58] <Jawshie> sangre: this should do it.... http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_run_programs_on_startup_when_login_into_GNOME
[12:58] <Oswy> Done.
[12:59] <[WaZ] > Oswy: then sudo depmod -a
[12:59] <Jawshie> sangre: I think its the same thing but worded differently... maybe I didnt say it correctly
[12:59] <devin_> Just wondering, is there a way to replace konqueror with krusader if so how?
[12:59] <[WaZ] > Oswy: then sudo rmmod prism2_pci hostap_pci hostap orinoco_pci orinoco hermes
[12:59] <crimsun> nickk: before the `exit 0'
[12:59] <[WaZ] > Oswy: then sudo modprobe orinoco_pci
[12:59] <bruenig> !info krusader | devin_
[12:59] <[WaZ] > then left click the icon again
[12:59] <ubotu> devin_: krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[12:59] <nickk> crimsun, there is no `exit 0` in the file
[12:59] <Oswy> Hmm, three of those don't exist in /proc/modules.
[01:00] <[WaZ] > Oswy: tsok
[01:00] <crimsun> nickk: ...there should be at the end
[01:00] <Oswy> k
[01:00] <[WaZ] > Oswy: shows anything?
[01:00] <nickk> nope
[01:00] <Oswy> Did the modprobe.
[01:00] <nickk> crimsun, it ends with `esac`
[01:00] <crimsun> nickk: dapper? edgy? feisty?
[01:00] <Oswy> In what?
[01:00] <nickk> crimsun, edgy
[01:00] <[WaZ] > icon, left click
[01:00] <sangre> Jawshie: thanks!
[01:00] <Jawshie> sangre: that did it? great
[01:01] <Varsendaggr> hey I just installed steam!!!
[01:01] <RxDx> is Kompozer a good HTML editor?
[01:01] <sangre> Jawshie: no, thanks for the referal, will read now  :)
[01:01] <Pollywog> Varsendaggr: on WINE?
[01:01] <JollyJester> crimsun : I haven't left, so you know. I'm having trouble installing the latest ndiswrapper. I'm going to go back one version and try it
[01:01] <Jawshie> sangre: darn got my hopes up ;)
[01:01] <billboforealdoe> can wine play windows games?
[01:01] <[WaZ] > Oswy: icon, left click
[01:01] <bruenig> !games | billboforealdoe
[01:01] <ubotu> billboforealdoe: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[01:01] <Pollywog> billboforealdoe: not many
[01:01] <Oswy> Still just wired.
[01:01] <jetscreamer> depends on the game
[01:01] <Varsendaggr> yeah...   haven't ever used it so i can't tell for sure if it really works
[01:01] <nickk> crimsun, any ideas?
[01:01] <Pollywog> billboforealdoe: Cedega
[01:01] <[WaZ] > Oswy: what does iwlist scan give you?
[01:01] <billboforealdoe> it costs :/
[01:01] <crimsun> nickk: can you pastebin your /etc/rc.local, please?
[01:01] <Pollywog> billboforealdoe: www.transgaming.com
[01:02] <billboforealdoe> any other options than cedega?
[01:02] <Pollywog> the prepackaged version costs
[01:02] <Oswy> eth1 is the only one that supports scanning.
[01:02] <Varsendaggr> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Steam&back=HOWTO+INDEX+Wine+Games
[01:02] <nickk> crimsun, how do i pastebin... what is that? (sorry i'm pretty new)
[01:02] <[WaZ] > Oswy: but does it show anything?
[01:02] <Oswy> It has a mac address and everything.
[01:02] <bruenig> !paste | nickk
[01:02] <Oswy> Yea.h
[01:02] <ubotu> nickk: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:02] <billboforealdoe> so how would i get the unprepackaged?
[01:02] <Jawshie> billboforealdoe: they can do some. http://appdb.winehq.org/
[01:02] <madman91> Is it possible to ssh into a windows machine on my network and copy paste files to/from my machine to the windows box
[01:03] <Pollywog> billboforealdoe: at the same place, transgaming.com
[01:03] <crimsun> madman91: if the windows machine is currently running an sshd, yes
[01:03] <RoundyT1> how do i start a process with ubuntu? on a server like....mysql?
[01:03] <Pollywog> billboforealdoe: but it is not as good
[01:03] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  (you might get disconnected)
[01:03] <crimsun> RoundyT1: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[01:03] <Varsendaggr> is there an opensource flash editor?
[01:03] <bruenig> Varsendaggr, no
[01:03] <nickk> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13448/
[01:03] <madman91> crimsun: sshd .. so i install that into my windows computer.. thanks!
[01:03] <Oswy> k, done
[01:03] <[WaZ] > any luck?
[01:04] <billboforealdoe> hm i swore i found a free cedega the other day. lost it cleaning the hard drive
[01:04] <[WaZ] > (icon)
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> RxDx: Re: KompoZer - it's just Nvu with a lot of bugfixes.  New features are by policy usually implemented via extensions instead of in the core.  So, if you think Nvu is good, KompoZer is somewhat better.
[01:04] <crimsun> nickk: err, you can't be looking at /etc/rc.local
[01:04] <[WaZ] > Oswy: (icon)
[01:04] <RxDx> tonyyarusso, thanks
[01:04] <nickk> crimsun, not so sure what you mean
[01:04] <crimsun> nickk: that file that you pastebinned references /etc/rc.local in a shell command, so checking for the existence of itself is meaningless...
[01:04] <Pollywog> the free one does not contain some dll files that make Cedega run more games
[01:04] <Oswy> Nope.
[01:05] <[WaZ] > ifup eth1 ?
[01:05] <Oswy> Wait, do it in the icon or something?
[01:05] <UbuntuNewbieMan> hey how do i find which kernel I have
[01:05] <crimsun> nickk: you need to look at /etc/rc.local  (the file)
[01:05] <Oswy> Hmm, lemme try.
[01:05] <Pollywog> btw VMware will not run games well
[01:05] <UbuntuNewbieMan> im trying to install my Nvidia drivers
[01:05] <Oswy> Ignoring unknown interface.
[01:05] <madman91> IS it possible to ssh (or any type of link) into a windows box on my network.. and see its desktop on mine? ... so I can launch programs, etc..
[01:05] <[WaZ] > Oswy no
[01:05] <bruenig> UbuntuNewbieMan, uname -r
[01:05] <billboforealdoe> is it possible to add dlls that it doesnt come with
[01:05] <kitche> UbuntuNewbieMan: uname -r tells you the version
[01:05] <Oswy> Hmm?
[01:05] <UbuntuNewbieMan> thanks alot
[01:05] <Pollywog> madman91: VNC
[01:05] <nickk> crimsun, i'm in /etc/init.d/ right now
[01:05] <sangre> Jawshie: hey, it did work
[01:05] <sangre> thanks!
[01:05] <Jawshie> sangre: yay :P Np
[01:05] <eternaljoy> whats a newsgroup reader for Edgy pls?
[01:05] <Pollywog> and also ssh with -X option
[01:05] <madman91> Pollywog: vnc.. server on windows box .. and client on mine?
[01:05] <[WaZ] > Oswy: icon is there just to see if it gets networks
[01:05] <crimsun> nickk: cat /etc/rc.local
[01:06] <AIChains> my account is a nis login, i cant use sound
[01:06] <whatspy> hi, I'm definitely switching to linux, it's all great, but one thing's missing: a file manager with the look & feel of my good old "total commander"
[01:06] <Oswy> Right.
[01:06] <eternaljoy> !newsgroup reader
[01:06] <Pollywog> madman91: yes
[01:06] <whatspy> what's the ubuntu equivalence ?
[01:06] <DesertEagle> has anyone around here used gimpshop?
[01:06] <AIChains> ive added the audio group to my nis server, with the same gid as the ubuntu /etc/group
[01:06] <madman91> Pollywog: vnc in google pulls up  tightvnc realvnc.. which one?
[01:06] <nickk> oh
[01:06] <Oswy> !paste
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[01:06] <lostsync_> DesertEagle: i have but only on OS X
[01:06] <AIChains> id -nG username shows that i am a member of all the necessary groups
[01:06] <nickk> crimsun, i see... how do I edit that? when i open it with gedit thats not the code i see
[01:06] <Pollywog> !vnc
[01:06] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[01:06] <DesertEagle> lostsync: so close :P
[01:06] <AIChains> however, i still cannot use the sound card
[01:06] <DesertEagle> lostsync: thanks though
[01:07] <volks> a question!
[01:07] <crimsun> nickk: gksu 'gedit /etc/rc.local'
[01:07] <DesertEagle> an answer!
[01:07] <bruenig> !info krusader | whatspy
[01:07] <Jawshie> !freenx
[01:07] <Pollywog> I use xnvcviewer but the tight one is good too
[01:07] <Oswy> [WaZ] : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13449/ Does that help?
[01:07] <bruenig> !info mc | whatspy
[01:07] <nickk> crimsun, thank you so much :)
[01:07] <volks> im trying to install soldier of fortune and i run the .sh file and when i need to choose an installation directory it says i have no permission?
[01:07] <lostsync_> DesertEagle: np
[01:07] <bruenig> !info gnome-commander | whatspy
[01:07] <Jawshie> poo I aint that priveledged
[01:07] <ubotu> whatspy: krusader: twin-panel (commander-style) file manager for KDE (and other desktops). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.70.1-1 (edgy), package size 2547 kB, installed size 6940 kB
[01:07] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[01:07] <ubotu> whatspy: mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[01:07] <ubotu> whatspy: gnome-commander: nice and fast file manager for the GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 860 kB, installed size 9064 kB
[01:07] <Jawshie> ah there he is
[01:07] <DesertEagle> volks: under what user are you installing?
[01:07] <volks> my own user
[01:08] <[WaZ] > Oswy: not really
[01:08] <volks> Volks
[01:08] <volks> lol
[01:08] <Oswy> Heh, OK.
[01:08] <volks> i added my self to the root group
[01:08] <DesertEagle> volks: try it again under root
[01:08] <[WaZ] > Oswy: killall nm-applet
[01:08] <Oswy> I mean, it seems to be sending packets.
[01:08] <DesertEagle> oic
[01:08] <bimberi> Jawshie: sure you are, ubotu's just being lazy :)
[01:08] <lostsync_> er...how do you switch windows in irssi?
[01:08] <DesertEagle> either way :P
[01:08] <volks> through the user/group management tab
[01:08] <Oswy> OK.
[01:08] <[WaZ] > Oswy: alt-f2 nm-aplet
[01:08] <jrib> lostsync_: alt-NUMBER
[01:08] <DesertEagle> what dir anyways?
[01:08] <volks> but i donno
[01:08] <volks> err
[01:08] <bimberi> lostsync_: /win 23 (or whatever)
[01:08] <[WaZ] > applet*
[01:08] <volks> trie dloads of dirs
[01:08] <lostsync_> thanks both
[01:08] <volks> shall i pastebin?
[01:08] <volks> !pastebin
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[01:08] <lostsync_> thought it was ctl+#
[01:09] <Oswy> Still only Wired.
[01:09] <junmin> hi, which is the feisty channel?? please
[01:09] <jimmio> Hello
[01:09] <[WaZ] > erf
[01:09] <Pollywog> #ubuntu+1
[01:09] <jimmio> I need some help getting Frostwire to run
[01:09] <bimberi> junmin: #ubuntu+1
[01:09] <DesertEagle> volks: aren't you installing it to a single dir?
[01:09] <volks> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13451/
[01:09] <volks> i dont know
[01:09] <junmin> bimberi, thx
[01:09] <volks> just look >_>
[01:09] <bruenig> jimmio, frostwire is garbage
[01:09] <venox> hey... is there anyway to run an application using a single core? I have a core 2 duo and I want to run the game savage on a single core...
[01:10] <bimberi> junmin: np :)
[01:10] <jimmio> bruenig, no it isn't
[01:10] <bruenig> jimmio, tis
[01:10] <Pollywog> bruenig: that is like saying someone is a jerk, it's subjective
[01:10] <jimmio> how so?
[01:10] <whatspy> ubotu: thanks, the screenshots are more than convincing :-) krusader will largely respond to my needs
[01:10] <bruenig> jimmio, can you get it running?
[01:10] <DesertEagle> volks: try sudo /media/iso/setup.sh
[01:10] <DesertEagle> =\
[01:10] <jimmio> it opens and closes a few seconds later
[01:11] <Pollywog> oh okay then it's garbage  ;)
[01:11] <bruenig> jimmio, oh, then it performs well
[01:11] <bimberi> lol Pollywog
[01:11] <volks> lol that does nothing >_>
[01:11] <bimberi> (and bruenig)
[01:11] <AIChains> any ideas about nis+audio in ubuntu ?
[01:11] <sephy> helo
[01:12] <whatspy> is it safe to enable the "universe" repository? why isn't it enabled by default ?
[01:12] <sephy> where can I find the Drivers for a BT voyager network card
[01:12] <jimmio> when I run from terminal it says Something went wrong with FrostWire
[01:12] <bruenig> whatspy, yeah its safe
[01:12] <sephy> for Ubuntu
[01:12] <DesertEagle> volks: what did it say?
[01:12] <bruenig> whatspy, to add all the extra official repositories and install krusader, make sure synaptic, update-manager, or any other package managers are closed, open a terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and copy and paste the following all at once:
[01:12] <bruenig> sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install krusader
[01:12] <[WaZ] > Oswy: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[01:12] <volks> it asked for my password which i entered
[01:12] <volks> then nothing
[01:12] <Oswy> In terminal, right?
[01:12] <[WaZ] > Oswy: yup
[01:12] <Oswy> k
[01:12] <volks> just back to the normal volks@synth:~$
[01:12] <bimberi> whatspy: yes, and it is in feisty.  it contains community supported software so it's a tricky one to decide
[01:12] <jimmio> it also says it wrote more info in a log file, but, I don't know where the file is located....
[01:13] <darksoule> I have ubuntu on another computer. I cannot get many programs because it does not have KDE. I cannot get online yet but have been taking downloads over via usbdrive. I have Kubuntu. I want to get the KDE off of that. I tried to add cd rom to the reposatory but it unmounts the cd. what am I doing wrong? http://www.pastebin.ca/420201
[01:13] <richw> darksoule: get the DVD
[01:13] <volks> you can install KDE apps on Gnome you realise that right?
[01:13] <richw> darksoule: dvd has more packages
[01:13] <NJigelli> has anyone got sound working on a P5N32-E-SLI-Plus motherboard with ubuntu?
[01:13] <[WaZ] > Oswy: any luck (icon)
[01:14] <whatspy> thank you for helping
[01:14] <volks> no ideas anybody?
[01:14] <darksoule> so, would the DVD work addint it to the reposatory like that?
[01:14] <spyke_> does the new codec manager download the needed codecs to play real files. it only gets one codec for me but its not enough to play the file
[01:14] <nathan__> brasilians here?
[01:15] <RyanRyan52> Hi, I got my computer last week and ever since then my room feels like a mini-desert, is there any way to undervolt?(not sure what the correct word would be)
[01:15] <nickk> is it possible to run an application from a script?
[01:15] <volks> drop the voltage?
[01:15] <RyanRyan52> yes
[01:15] <bimberi> darksoule: those messages are fine.  If it's the desktop cd you can't use it to install kde on an existing system.  Alternate CD or the DVD.
[01:15] <bruenig> nickk, yes
[01:15] <volks> hmm
[01:15] <volks> bios.
[01:15] <richw> RyanRyan52: go in the bios
[01:15] <nickk> bruenig, how would I go about it?
[01:15] <volks> but that would lead to hardware damage would it not?
[01:15] <bruenig> nickk, what are you trying to do
[01:15] <volks> not having enough juice to run?
[01:15] <RyanRyan52> i dont see the setting there
[01:15] <SpacePuppy> yup.. RyanRyan52 get a fan
[01:15] <therealnanotube> RyanRyan52: return the comp, and get a laptop. :)
[01:15] <richw> or water cooling :D
[01:15] <RyanRyan52> i made the computer
[01:16] <spyke_> ln2
[01:16] <StoneNote> how would I go about determining my PATH to perl or ruby or python?  Is there a comparable command to windows echo %PATH%?
[01:16] <volks> well obviously somethings creating laods of heat
[01:16] <jimmio> I think I found the problem.... it failed on executing some kind of text .so... so I need to reinstall that somehow?
[01:16] <bimberi> !startup | nickk
[01:16] <nickk> bruenig, well.. my beryl loads slower than kiba dock.. so kiba dock loads without transparency all ugly.. so i thought.. maybe write a script to load xcompmgr first.. load kiba dock.. then beryl.. then close xcompmgr... but maybe there is a better solution heh
[01:16] <RyanRyan52> the processor is doing it
[01:16] <ubotu> nickk: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[01:16] <baktaah__> Could someone help me setup my VNC?
[01:16] <richw> RyanRyan52: You should have a fan blowing air in and a fan blowing air out on your case
[01:16] <therealnanotube> StoneNote: echo $PATH to determine your path variable
[01:16] <Jawshie> spyke if you are having problems try this:   sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-* mozilla-plugin-vlc
[01:16] <RyanRyan52> ok
[01:16] <RyanRyan52> thanks
[01:16] <therealnanotube> StoneNote: but even better, try "which perl"
[01:16] <StoneNote> therealnanotube, thank you
[01:16] <madmax> Hello all
[01:16] <bruenig> nickk, yeah you can do that just create a script and put those commands in that order
[01:16] <bobrobon> yo yo yo
[01:16] <volks> turn one fan the otherway round
[01:16] <SpacePuppy> StoneNote: use the which command ie which perl  which python
[01:17] <RyanRyan52> ok
[01:17] <Jawshie> spyke_: it should have all the codecs you need
[01:17] <nickk> bruenig, okay.. so i can just run the command straight...? no exec () or something like that?
[01:17] <PyroMessiah> If someone could help me with this I would be forever grateful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398847
[01:17] <bruenig> nickk, right, just list the commands
[01:17] <baktaah__> Could someone help me setup my VNC?
[01:17] <spyke_> its installing now
[01:17] <volks> is nobody going to help me?
[01:17] <spyke_> thanks jawshie
[01:18] <madmax> I am VERY new to this whole linux os experience and was wondering which is the most popular desktop version?
[01:18] <richw> baktaah__: just say what your having problems with
[01:18] <nickk> bruenig, okay thanks a lot... one last question.. whats the command to completely terminate a process... say if i load xcompmgr.. and then i need to kill it..  which command would i use?
[01:18] <richw> baktaah__: dont ask to ask
[01:18] <[WaZ] > madmax: Ubuntu
[01:18] <volks> im trying to install soldier of fortune linux version. but i cant choose a directory...because i dont "have" write privileges
[01:18] <Oswy_> So it's recognizing the wireless network, I just can't connect.
[01:18] <Oswy_> I can take it from here, though.
[01:18] <volks> whats the problem?
[01:18] <Oswy_> Thanks for all the help!
[01:18] <baktaah__> richw there is no problem, but I don't know how to setup my VNC
[01:18] <madmax> that is what I am running now
[01:18] <bruenig> nickk, something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13454/
[01:18] <jrib> madmax: I would guess that Ubuntu (default with GNOME) is the most popular mostly because it's default :).  Just try them all and go with the one you like best, they all have their strong points
[01:18] <[WaZ] > Oswy: great!
[01:18] <Jawshie> nickk: use the top command to find what the process ID is, then use  :    kill PID
[01:19] <bruenig> nickk, not sure on the kiba and beryl commands, but you get the idea
[01:19] <Jawshie> if it wont let you use: sudo kill pid
[01:19] <madmax> how is freespire?
[01:19] <richw> baktaah__: system --> preferences --> remote desktop ?
[01:19] <baktaah__> richw yeah but my friends cant c onnect :/
[01:19] <Pollywog> Freespire is good
[01:19] <nickk> bruenig, Jawshie, thank you :)
[01:19] <Pollywog> I have used it
[01:19] <volks> guys?
[01:19] <richw> baktaah__: it should listen on 5800 then you have to route the port
[01:19] <volks> =(
[01:19] <madmax> and xandros
[01:19] <richw> baktaah__: assuming you have a router
[01:19] <spyke_> the new freespire version is going to be based on ubuntu too :D
[01:19] <PyroMessiah> Anyone?
[01:19] <Pollywog> Xandros is good too
[01:19] <[WaZ] > madmax: Try Ubuntu, you'll have lots of help here
[01:19] <madmax> which one are you all using
[01:19] <Pollywog> Pyromancer: there is hardware that does what you want to do
[01:20] <baktaah__> richw isnt it 5900 or 5901?
[01:20] <Pollywog> and one old software that I do not recall the name of
[01:20] <Jawshie> madmax: freespire and xandros are great but they are out to get your money :P
[01:20] <[WaZ] > madmax: this is the Ubuntu help channel, so Ubuntu ;-)
[01:20] <PyroMessiah> Thanks, that doesn't really help me.
[01:20] <Pollywog> PyroMessiah: I meant
[01:20] <richw> baktaah__: i think so my bad but experiment ;)
[01:20] <madmax> i know, and i am sorry
[01:20] <baktaah__> doesnt matter richw I dont have a router or a firewall
[01:20] <just-this-time> f-spot is a gnome prog howto use it from kde to export to picasaweb.google.com
[01:20] <bruenig> just-this-time, you can use gnome programs on kde
[01:20] <madmax> like i said, i am using ubuntu and it seems to be fine
[01:21] <darksoule> so which would you suggest? Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper Drake) or Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)?
[01:21] <sangre> i am trying to get the folding@home client to start on startup. i thought I had it setup, but when i try 'top' i don't see it running
[01:21] <[WaZ] > madmax: live of install?
[01:21] <spyke_> i'm using ubuntu. I like xubuntu but it is still missing some features i like. i'm waiting for xubuntu to mature more.
[01:21] <Pollywog> how does one get music fron a cassette to mp3 format?
[01:21] <richw> darksoule: edgy seems good to me
[01:21] <bruenig> spyke_, like...
[01:21] <Pollywog> is it possible?
[01:21] <madmax> it is on my hard drive
[01:21] <PyroMessiah> Maybe I'll just have to switch to another distro, nobody seems to be able to help me.
[01:21] <volks> no man
[01:21] <[WaZ] > madmax: good
[01:21] <volks> pyro
[01:21] <volks> i wanna help
[01:21] <PyroMessiah> Pollywog: if you'd read my post you would know that it is.
[01:21] <volks> ;] 
[01:21] <Pollywog> Pyro that won't change the problem
[01:21] <bruenig> PyroMessiah, bye
[01:21] <richw> spyke_: you can learn to program and contribute?
[01:21] <just-this-time> f-spot is a gnome prog howto use it from kde to export to picasaweb.google.com
[01:21] <volks> bruenig shut up man
[01:22] <just-this-time> bruenig OK
[01:22] <bruenig> just-this-time, you can use gnome programs on kde
[01:22] <Pollywog> PyroMessiah: I read what you posted
[01:22] <volks> i reckon its to do with your soundcard
[01:22] <PyroMessiah> Don't take it personally
[01:22] <spyke_> thats what i'm planning on doing for xubuntu :D
[01:22] <Pollywog> in the forums
[01:22] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:22] <just-this-time> bruenig what about gnome keyring ?
[01:22] <volks> PyroMessiah try to find some drivers for your soundcard or something.
[01:22] <umpah> gnome from wow?
[01:22] <baktaah__> Could someone with VNC try to connect to my desktop?
[01:22] <spyke_> working on some code right now :D
[01:22] <PyroMessiah> volks:  ok
[01:22] <just-this-time> bruenig what about gnome keyring  daemon? f-spot complains about it
[01:22] <PyroMessiah> thanks
[01:22] <baktaah__> Would anyone voulenteet to see if they can connect to my desktop, through VNC?
[01:22] <volks> it could be a driver problem =/
[01:23] <bruenig> just-this-time, hmmm, should be in the package if it is necessary
[01:23] <PyroMessiah> I have on board audio, works for everything but this
[01:23] <volks> i donno im very inexperianced with linux and ubuntu but its a guess =)
[01:23] <madmax> how about some help with the message "out of range" when booting up?
[01:23] <Pollywog> PyroMessiah: this is how it is in Linux, sometimes the solution to a problem is not readily available you have to hunt it down
[01:23] <Pollywog> and I did not take offense at what you said earlier
[01:23] <PyroMessiah> Pollywog: That's what I'm trying to do.  So suggestions like "buy some hardware that does it" are a bit insulting.
[01:23] <Pollywog> k
[01:24] <Pollywog> I will try to locate the name of the software I mentioned
[01:24] <just-this-time> f-spot is the only ubuntu packaged app said to be able to post to picaasaweb (that i know of)
[01:24] <PyroMessiah> Thanks
[01:24] <Pollywog> I used it for that very purpose
[01:24] <bruenig> PyroMessiah, well some hardware won't work in linux, not that yours wont perhaps but you need to remember that
[01:24] <madman91> How do I find out which program was written in which language?
[01:24] <richw> baktaah__: send me your ip
[01:24] <PyroMessiah> bruenig:  True, I guess that must be the case.  It just stinks because I want to dump windows forever, but I can't because I have to be able to do this.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> madman91: look at the source code or look for docs on it
[01:25] <volks> is anybody going to help me yet?
[01:25] <Jawshie> Pyro: its always handy to have a vmware windows so if something is not supported in linux yet you can do it in windows. everybody makes handware for windows .... poo
[01:25] <bruenig> PyroMessiah, if on board works, I would just go with on board
[01:25] <hole_> when i try to run quake3 X crashes can anyone help?
[01:25] <just-this-time> volks repeat
[01:25] <nickk> bruenig, i added the code to run the commands in /etc/rc.local but nothing worked... any ideas?
[01:25] <richw> volks: say question again?
[01:25] <PyroMessiah> bruenig:  It works with everything but what I'm looking for help for.
[01:25] <madman91> gnomefreak: i tried.. there must be an easier way
[01:25] <gnomefreak> hole_: are you using beryl or compiz?
[01:25] <hole_> sarge
[01:25] <gnomefreak> madman91: what program?
[01:26] <volks> trying to install soldier of fortune and it wont let me choose a directory to write the files to because i dont have privileges
[01:26] <volks> but i do
[01:26] <bruenig> nickk, it should be run from startup programs, in system>preferences>sessions
[01:26] <volks> im the only user on this ubuntu installation
[01:26] <madmax> please help with "out of range" message while booting
[01:26] <gnomefreak> hole_: we dont support sarge try #debian
[01:26] <hole_> i got an ubuntu unleashed book and installed from the dvd
[01:26] <nickk> bruenig, meaning i should run rc.local from there?
[01:26] <hole_> i may be mistaken
[01:26] <madman91> gnomefreak: well.. lets say.. xchat
[01:26] <madman91> gnomefreak: or gaim
[01:26] <bruenig> nickk, meaning you should run that script from there
[01:26] <gnomefreak> hole_: did you enable 3d?
[01:26] <nickk> hmm okay
[01:27] <bruenig> nickk, rc.local should not be used at all
[01:27] <PyroMessiah> Alright well thanks anyway
[01:27] <hole_> glxgears ran
[01:27] <richw> volks: what directory you putting it in?
[01:27] <gnomefreak> madman91: pick an app but i believe both are C or C++
[01:27] <nickk> bruenig, okay i'll try that thanks
[01:27] <volks> richw ive tried so many
[01:27] <gnomefreak> hole_: glxinfo | grep direct
[01:27] <bruenig> nickk, you may wish to try #ubuntu-effects for beryl advice
[01:27] <hole_> k
[01:27] <gnomefreak> hole_: what does that say?
[01:27] <madman91> gnomefreak: is there a definite way to know?
[01:27] <richw> volks: ok i dont have the game sorry.
[01:27] <madman91> gnomefreak: like a database?
[01:27] <volks> richw http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13456/
[01:28] <gnomefreak> madman91: look at the source code. alot of apps are not written in one lang.
[01:28] <baktaah__> richw
[01:28] <vvv> i have a windows parition on my computer... but kubuntu won't let me mount it.. ubuntu let's me mount my other harddrives without a problem
[01:28] <vvv> how do i fix this issue?
[01:28] <Lucifel> 16:28 < gnomefreak> madman91: look at the source code. alot of apps are not written
[01:28] <hole_> direct rendering: No
[01:28] <hole_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:28] <gnomefreak> madman91: no no database that im aware of
[01:28] <madman91> Lucifel: ?
[01:28] <richw> volks: use sudo /bin/bash /media/iso/setup.sh
[01:28] <Lucifel> gah sorry
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Lucifel: ?
[01:28] <madman91> gnomefreak: .. so one program can be made of many languages? ... twisted...
[01:28] <volks> err one sec guys i cant pm you
[01:28] <gnomefreak> madman91: yes
[01:28] <madmax> I cannot find help regarding this issue "out of range" on the ubuntu help forums
[01:28] <richw> volks: linux runs in userland by default.. you are only permitted to write to /home/username if you are not root
[01:28] <volks> richw i tried that!
[01:29] <richw> volks: you need to sudo to root to write outside your home directory
[01:29] <volks> richw when i use sudo the program doesnt launch at all
[01:29] <hole_> gnomefreak
[01:29] <hole_> direct rendering: No
[01:29] <hole_> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:29] <gnomefreak> madman91: most likely its your Usplash configuration (i cant think of the usplash folder off hand)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> hole_: you dont have 3d enabled
[01:29] <gnomefreak> hole_: ati or nvidia?
[01:29] <Voldemort_> [WaZ] : hi, i have another question, i have an hp dv2225la laptop, and it comes with the multi card reader, and i can read the sd cards, and mmc's ones but i can't read my memorystick, do you know anything??
[01:29] <Twiztr> What are my options for a firewall?
[01:29] <hole_> nvidia
[01:29] <madman91> gnomefreak: ? usplash ?
[01:29] <dt_> how do i upgrade ubuntu feisty herd 4 to feisty beta?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> or one of the 1000 other cards :)
[01:29] <hole_> gnomefreak nvidia
[01:29] <Pollywog> PyroMessiah: http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l18/lesson18e.html look at that
[01:30] <gnomefreak> hole_: what nvidia card
[01:30] <hole_> oh nvidia geforce4 440go
[01:30] <richw> volks: cant you tell it to install inside your home directory.. possibly edit the script if needed
[01:30] <cafuego_> dt_: the usual dist-upgrade
[01:30] <parag0n> dt_, apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:30] <dt_> ok im going to try that...
[01:30] <Pollywog> it is not Ubuntu specific but it is a start
[01:30] <volks> richw it gives you an option and ive tried but it wont even let me in my home directory
[01:30] <gnomefreak> madman91: yes usplash. madman91 please run sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:30] <just-this-time> exit
[01:30] <Jawshie> vvv: do you know what the name of your hd is in /dev/?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> hole_: what does uname -r say?
[01:31] <madman91> gnomefreak: but where did you get usplash from? ... i didnt ask anything about booting
[01:31] <hole_> i'll check
[01:31] <hole_> gnomefreak 2.6.15-27-386
[01:31] <richw> volks: you should seek support from people that are more knowlegeable about the game... including the company that made the game
[01:31] <gnomefreak> madman91: 99% of time when you boot you get that because the usplash is at a higher rate than your monitor
[01:31] <madmax> anyone know how to resolve the issue of "out of range" while booting?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> hole_: ok cool
[01:32] <gnomefreak> hole_: install nvidia-glx
[01:32] <dt_> when i try dist-upgrade i get: bash: dist-upgrade: command not found
[01:32] <gnomefreak> madman91: i told you what to do
[01:32] <hole_> with apt-get?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> madman91: while booting == im betting you never see usplsh
[01:32] <dt_> ill try apt-get
[01:32] <gnomefreak> usplash
[01:32] <gnomefreak> hole_: yes
[01:32] <gnomefreak> hole_: use aptitude
[01:32] <madman91> gnomefreak: NO.. it was madmax .. not madman91
[01:32] <madman91> gnomefreak: :)
[01:33] <gnomefreak> hole_: sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[01:33] <hole_> already did apt-get
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ah damn it
[01:33] <dt_> its getting files now
[01:33] <shooters> Bug #95002, a diff.gz was submitted in the bug report, how do I install that patch?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> madmax: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:33] <hole_> why should i remove it and use aptitude?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> shooters: you dont
[01:34] <Pollywog> some ppl give up too easily :(
[01:34] <gnomefreak> shooters: you wait for it to be added and respun
[01:34] <gnomefreak> hole_: just install it please
[01:34] <hole_> just did
[01:34] <rfdparker2002> hello
[01:34] <gnomefreak> hole_: ok good now sudo gedit /etc/X11/org.conf
[01:34] <hole_> now to enable it
[01:34] <Crazytom> what
[01:34] <hole_> k
[01:35] <spyke_> https://activision.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/activision.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=10271&p_created=1042500825&p_sid=RKUs22yi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MSZwX3Byb2RzPTEsMjc3JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0yLjI3NyZwX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9bGludXg*&p_li=&p_topview=1
[01:35] <jrib> spyke_: tinyurl!
[01:35] <dt_> ok i did apt-get dist-update and its downloading 870MBs of files
[01:35] <spyke_> it seems the company will not help
[01:35] <sangre> if i want to add a program to start as a service, can i just append a line at the end of /etc/init/rc.local ?
[01:35] <sangre> is that ok to do in ubuntu?
[01:35] <dt_> will that get my version to 7.04 beta?
[01:35] <darksoule> does the ubuntu DVD have KDE? or do I need Kubuntu?
[01:35] <madmax> I am sorry for bothering you all with my problem. I guess I will have to leave my computer on 24/7
[01:35] <Crazytom> what program should i use to install a shared printer?  The printer is shared off my windows machine.  how do i access it with ubuntu?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> hole_: look for Section "Device"
[01:35] <Pollywog> spyke which game is that?
[01:35] <hole_> k
[01:35] <spyke_> sry jrib
[01:35] <spyke_> sof2
[01:35] <hole_> change from nv to nvidia?
[01:36] <volks> spyke Loki games were the ones that released the game for linux
[01:36] <gnomefreak> madmax: i told you what to do
[01:36] <gnomefreak> hole_: wait
[01:36] <jrib> dt_: it depends on how you are doing it.  Also, it is recommended that you use update-manager
[01:36] <spyke_> i see
[01:36] <Pollywog> spyke doesn't that run on Cedega?
[01:36] <volks> but i cant find any support from them either..
[01:36] <gnomefreak> hole_: in another terminal type lspci please
[01:36] <volks> i just have problem witht he way my system is set up
[01:36] <volks> i think i might downgrade back to 6.10
[01:36] <gnomefreak> hole_: i need the info on the video card line
[01:36] <madmax> gnome freak: I am sorry, I kept seeing madman91
[01:36] <dt_> jrib: how do i ensure i get 7.04 beta? I am currently running 7.04 herd 4
[01:36] <Jawshie> Volks: thats why Feisty is in beta :P
[01:36] <hole_> k
[01:36] <jrib> dt_: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[01:36] <gnomefreak> madmax: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:37] <hole_> would it be easier if i pasted it on pastebin?
[01:37] <billybobmac> 
[01:37] <Pollywog> I remember a sof game came with my soundcard and it ran well in WineX
[01:37] <dt_> dang im horrible at this... how do i get to #ubuntu+1 or whatever it is?
[01:37] <jrib> dt_: /join #ubuntu+1
[01:37] <gnomefreak> billybobmac: english please
[01:37] <cafuego_> My thai isn't great
[01:38] <gnomefreak> hole_: if that works for you
[01:38] <Pollywog> except when at a restaurant?
[01:38] <hole_> k
[01:38] <delcoyote> need help to get rid of samba, cant use dpkg and it wont let me install packages properly
[01:38] <gnomefreak> hole_: i just need that one line
[01:38] <Puppy> has anyone had any experience with the samsung k5 on ubuntu? It says on the box that it needs Windows Media Player (10 or higher) and windows XP. Will it work in ubuntu or will my computer crash or somthing?
[01:38] <billybobmac> Aye, Thai fonts are not displaying correctly.
[01:38] <delcoyote> is it possible to unistall samba with rescue mode at boot?
[01:38] <delcoyote> is it possible to unistall samba with rescue mode at boot?
[01:38] <crdlb> Puppy, that's a music player? you need libmtp
[01:38] <dying_sphynx> hi guys
[01:38] <delcoyote> sorry for repeating
[01:38] <madmax> gomefreak: I guess you do this with the terminal command?  As I said , I am VERY new at this.
[01:39] <billybobmac> Some programmes, work fine, others it's broken and others it not display.
[01:39] <Puppy> crdib, ok thanks! I will check it out.
[01:39] <hole_> # /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
[01:39] <hole_> #
[01:39] <hole_> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[01:39] <hole_> # values from the debconf database.
[01:39] <hole_> #
[01:39] <hole_> # Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
[01:39] <hole_> # (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
[01:39] <Pollywog> delcoyote: is samba preventing your machine from booting?
[01:39] <hole_> #
[01:39] <gnomefreak> madmax: are you in a desktop atm? gnome? kde? xfce?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> hole_: no
[01:39] <MLimburg> hole_, use pastebin
[01:39] <hole_> oops
[01:39] <hole_> i did
[01:39] <gnomefreak> hole_: i need the output of lspci in p[astebin
[01:39] <volks> o ffs
[01:39] <volks> i hate this
[01:39] <volks> -.-
[01:39] <madmax> what ever is default
[01:40] <darksoule> does the ubuntu DVD have KDE? or do I need Kubuntu?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> madmax: do you have 1 or 2 panels
[01:40] <madmax> i have not changed anything
[01:40] <Jawshie> dark, it does have kde
[01:40] <madmax> 2 panels
[01:40] <Jawshie> at least I read that somewhere
[01:40] <darksoule> kewl!
[01:40] <barronvonparadox> does ubuntu have out of the box wireless networking support and support for pcmcia wifi cards?
[01:40] <woodyn87> baktaah, did you get an answer to your question?
[01:40] <Jawshie> barronvonparadox: on some it does
[01:40] <delcoyote> Pollywog: no it isnt could i use the rescue mode to uninstall it?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> madmax: you have 2 that you see. than what is your problem if you have desktop showing? when you get the out of range error you dont get a desktop running
[01:40] <Jawshie> barronvonparadox: depends on the card
[01:40] <richw> volks: i think loki went out of business
[01:41] <hole_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13462/
[01:41] <baktaah> woodyn87 no :(
[01:41] <nickk> which channel should I go to for some beryl advice?
[01:41] <baktaah> my system crasched
[01:41] <jrib> nickk: #ubuntu-effects
[01:41] <hole_> again to the WHOLE room i'm very sorry
[01:41] <Pollywog> delcoyote: not sure if that will work but why not just boot the machine normally and then remove it?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> hole_: in terminal type lspci and paste output to pastebin
[01:41] <Jawshie> nick: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[01:41] <Pollywog> loki did go out of business
[01:42] <hole_> k
[01:42] <delcoyote> i've tryied to remove it
[01:42] <madmax> how to turn off 2 panels?
[01:42] <woodyn87> Baktaah, what is your IP address?
[01:42] <sipher> any ideas on how to get nvidia tv out working?
[01:42] <nickk> jrib, thanks
[01:42] <sipher> i've installed nvtv
[01:42] <jrib> madmax: right click on one of them and delete it
[01:42] <madmax> thank you very much!
[01:42] <sipher> and I'm using the latest nvidia drivers...
[01:42] <delcoyote> Pollywog: i tryed dpkg -configure --reconfigure and also synaptic but i always get an error with samba
[01:42] <gnomefreak> madmax: since your that new to ubuntu i advise keeping them both. but you still havent answered my question
[01:42] <Pollywog> apt-get remove samba did not remove it?
[01:43] <hole_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13464/
[01:43] <Pollywog> sudo apt-get remove samba did not remove it?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> delcoyote: thats been an issue
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Pollywog: no uninstall script error im betting
[01:43] <mdurham> /leave
[01:43] <Puppy> crdib, thanks it looks like my mp3 player does work with it. Thnaks again!
[01:43] <Pollywog> delcoyote you might need to make a fake package to overwite the samab deb
[01:43] <gnomefreak> delcoyote: did you try to kill samba before removing it
[01:43] <delcoyote> gnomefreak: that means i will have to reinstall edgy eft?
[01:43] <Pollywog> delcoyote you might need to make a fake package to overwite the samba deb
[01:43] <LinuxProbie> Hey folks/
[01:44] <billboforealdo1> might i get some reasons not to leave ubuntu and go to suse?
[01:44] <madmax> gnomefreak: I am sorry, what was your original question?
[01:44] <LinuxProbie> Can someone help me get my laptop touchpad working propery?
[01:44] <Pollywog> then remove the fake after installing it over the original
[01:44] <gnomefreak> delcoyote: no
[01:44] <delcoyote> i tryied to kill the daemons, or do i have to kill the daemons to get rid of samba?
[01:44] <baktaah> woodyn87
[01:44] <baktaah> did it work
[01:44] <gnomefreak> madmax: you had the out of range error on boot?
[01:44] <LjL> billboforealdo1: how would we know? it's your system.
[01:44] <Jawshie> billboforealdo1: theres 1000 people in this room. thats about all I got :P   Linux is all about choice
[01:44] <madmax> yes
[01:44] <jrib> billboforealdo1: try both and choose the one that works best for *you*
[01:44] <gnomefreak> madmax: hint you wouldnt have a gui
[01:44] <Pollywog> delcoyote: make a fake samba package and install it
[01:44] <hole_> i switched from suse
[01:44] <madmax> gnomefreak: yes
[01:44] <gnomefreak> madmax: how did you get into gnome with that error?
[01:44] <delcoyote> gnomefreak: smb.conf?
[01:44] <Pollywog> then remove the fake samba package
[01:44] <billboforealdo1> im just tired of incompatability with my computer
[01:44] <woodyn87> Yes Im sorry didn't see it.back in a min
[01:45] <hole_> gnomefreak http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13464/
[01:45] <gnomefreak> delcoyote: psaux
[01:45] <madmax> i just kept rebooting
[01:45] <Jawshie> billboforealdo1: which version are you using
[01:45] <Draconicus> crdlb: Well, the x11 codec worked fine. It wasn't hardware after all, by the way. Other cards freeze too. I reinstalled the xv codecs and everything associated, and it still locks up when I use them. What now?
[01:45] <delcoyote> thanks gnomefreakILLSEE WHAT I CAN DO
[01:45] <Jawshie> billboforealdo1: also, is this your first linux distro?
[01:45] <delcoyote> upps sry
[01:45] <madmax> that is why i made the comment of leaving on 24/7
[01:45] <billboforealdo1> im in dapper, went to edgy and lost my wireless connection and then tried fiesty and my computer just stopped so i went back down to dapper
[01:45] <gnomefreak> hole_: ok now in your xorg.conf that is still open right?
[01:45] <crdlb> Draconicus, if it works with "X11" then it is hardware/driver related
[01:45] <billboforealdo1> this is my first distro yes
[01:46] <dougie> how do you add support for rar files?
[01:46] <LjL> billboforealdo1: and what incompatibilities do you have with dapper?
[01:46] <madmax> it happens right after to first splash screen
[01:46] <LjL> !rar > dougie    (dougie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:46] <crdlb> Draconicus, because X11 is completely unaccelerated
[01:46] <dougie> like the spliot rar's
[01:46] <hole_> no but i will open it back up
[01:46] <Pollywog> delcoyote: if that does not work, make a fake samaba package and install it.  Use the equivs package to make the fake
[01:46] <sipher> tv out using s-video any ideas?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> hole_: please do
[01:46] <billboforealdo1> no freaking sound unless i turn acpi off everytime
[01:46] <delcoyote> Pollywog: gnomefreakthanks ill try that
[01:46] <hole_> done
[01:46] <Pollywog> it's very easy to do
[01:46] <gnomefreak> hole_: look for Section "Device" it will list driver identifier and busid
[01:46] <Jawshie> billboforealdo1: there is the idea of using the live cd to test your hardware first. I like suse alright. Try it and if you dont like it try something else.... distrowatch.com    There may not be support for some of your hardware
[01:46] <gnomefreak> line 100 give or take
[01:46] <woodyn87> Baktaah  I received a connection closed unexpectedly error, my guess is your machine isn't listening on port 5900?
[01:47] <baktaah> woodyn87 it is
[01:47] <LjL> billboforealdo1: having to turn ACPI off appears to be a common occurrence, however i'm not sure switching to another distribution will help, unless it ships with a very different version of the kernel
[01:47] <baktaah> woodyn87
[01:47] <baktaah> try again now
[01:47] <hole_> i have my xorg.conf pasted http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13462/
[01:47] <billboforealdo1> so i would probably have the same incompatibilities with the differ distros?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> do you see it?
[01:47] <Pollywog> LjL how does one turn off acpi during install, is it in GRUB menu?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> hole_: im looking at yours but you have to change it in the file i cant
[01:47] <Pollywog> and how does one get the GRUB menu
[01:48] <hole_> and also yes i do
[01:48] <woodyn87> Baktaah  Now it says "Connection refused"
[01:48] <madmax> gnomefreak: I am sorry but my typing is terrible
[01:48] <LjL> billboforealdo1, as other rightly suggested - try and see. live cds are useful for that. but i do believe requiring "acpi=off" is a kernel issue
[01:48] <Jawshie> billboforealdo1: try Mepis... it has a live cd to see if all your hardware is compatable. People seem to like it pretty well
[01:48] <Draconicus> crdlb: Alright... well... what do I do? ._.
[01:48] <billboforealdo1> yeah i have to edit it in the beginning
[01:48] <gnomefreak> hole_: good on the BUSID line you should see BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"  right?
[01:48] <woodyn87> Baktaah Are you on that machine?
[01:48] <Draconicus> crdlb: Ooh! Ooh! Do I reinstall nvidia drivers?! :D
[01:49] <crdlb> Draconicus, what happens if you use "nv" ?
[01:49] <hole_> gnomefreak section device near my nvidia stuff?
[01:49] <LjL> Pollywog: it's not right in the menu, but you just hit "e" to edit, then select the kernel command line, then "e" again, add "acpi=off" (or whatever options you want to add, like for instance "profile", which might make your bootup a little faster), and then "b" to boot
[01:49] <baktaah> woodyn87 yes
[01:49] <Draconicus> crdlb: I'll find out.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> hole_: yes
[01:49] <baktaah> Anyone
[01:49] <billboforealdo1> i will try. i know this is a very dumb thing to base on but which is the most popular distro?
[01:49] <baktaah> Does anyone know of a VNC with a GUI
[01:49] <baktaah> a VNC server with GUI
[01:49] <woodyn87> Baktaah, I'm told a user has to be signed in for this to work
[01:49] <gnomefreak> hole_: do you see the line that starts with BusID?
[01:49] <hole_> yes
[01:49] <Pollywog> LjL thanks, I had to do that when I installed Linspire 5.0
[01:49] <hole_> under nv
[01:49] <Jawshie> baktaah: is pretty simple with CLI.... if you need help I can help you
[01:49] <crdlb> baktaah, like vino-server ?
[01:49] <baktaah> Jawshie sure
[01:49] <gnomefreak> hole_: ok good make the numbers look like 1:00:0
[01:49] <Pollywog> because the VIA chipset is buggy on one laptop
[01:50] <godtvisken> Hey.. I'm trying to swap Caps lock and the Left control key in my xmodmap. I switched them, and then did `xmodmap .Xmodmap', but it didn't work. All of the other changes I made to the map did work, though. I am in Xubuntu, so I can't just go to Preferences -> Keyboard and swap it like in normal Ubuntu. What can I do?
[01:50] <baktaah> crdlb VNC
[01:50] <sangre> hi, i have a hard drive i have connected to my computer via an IDE to USB cable.  What should I do to mount the drive?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:50] <crdlb> baktaah, vino-server is vnc
[01:50] <gnomefreak> hole_: make them look like 1:00:0
[01:50] <baktaah> crdlb well It doesnt work for me.. (remote desktop huh) ?
[01:50] <eduhat> how can i get my ubuntu box to recognize my wireless card as hostap instead of orinoco_cs?
[01:50] <hole_> so "PCI:1:00:0
[01:50] <LjL> Pollywog: it won't stick, however, if you just do it from the GRUB menu (which is what you want with "profile", but usually not what you want with "acpi=off" for example), you'll have to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it stay, i think
[01:50] <sorush20> in grub boot except the menu.lst is there anywhere else where the location of the boots are listed like the (0,0)
[01:50] <chasetoys> how can i install *just enough* java so that i can run eclipse?
[01:50] <gnomefreak> hole_: all your doing is adding a second 0 in the middle of it
[01:50] <madmax> gnomefreak: did you see my answer to your question?
[01:50] <baktaah> Jawshie sure help me man
[01:50] <Jawshie> baktaah: what are you trying to do to start with
[01:50] <parag0n> billboforealdo1, ubuntu is
[01:50] <gnomefreak> madmax: no
[01:50] <hole_> on all of them?
[01:50] <madmax> I just keep rebooting
[01:50] <hole_> no nm
[01:50] <GuySof1> um, hello i get the following dmesg error: http://sial.org/pbot/23935 , when connecting this card: http://www.engeniustech.com/datacom/products/details.aspx?id=150 . is there a way to get the driver to work? using debian here.. but the debian channel is too bussy
[01:50] <baktaah> Jawshie  I want to put up a VNC server so I can connect to it from school
[01:51] <gnomefreak> hole_: ok nevermind close that without saving
[01:51] <Jawshie> Okay
[01:51] <baktaah> Jawshie school has tightVNC and ultraVNC and.. VNC++
[01:51] <LjL> sorush20: i guess /boot/grub/device.map
[01:51] <Pollywog> LjL on my laptop I had to set vesa to get the machine to install Linux but once done it booted normally
[01:51] <hole_> done sure?
[01:51] <billboforealdo1> ok, off topic question, do torrents download at the same speed on operas torrent thing than say utorrent?
[01:51] <madmax> gnomefreak: i just keep rebooting
[01:51] <gnomefreak> hole_: than in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:51] <cliebow_> nx''
[01:51] <hole_> k
[01:51] <Jawshie> Baktaah: open your terminal and type this:   sudo apt-get install vnc-server
[01:51] <gnomefreak> madmax: did you run sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst yet?
[01:51] <sorush20> LjL: the device map is corret.. I have hdc map to hd0 and hdd hd1
[01:51] <LjL> sorush20: the second number is simply the partition, so if (hd0) is /dev/hda, (hd0,0) will be /dev/hda1
[01:52] <madmax> gnomefreak: no not yet
[01:52] <parag0n> billboforealdo1, you can install utorrent under wine
[01:52] <Draconicus> crdlb: AHA! My framebuffer's totally missing! I was wondering why fb0 didn't exist when I tried to use mplayer -vo fbdev or some such in console. Why is my framebuffer gone, and how do I get it back? D:
[01:52] <baktaah> Jawshie vnc-server has no installation candidate
[01:52] <Jawshie> err
[01:52] <|Jason8|> Hey all.  is there a way I can make the audio buffer larger?  Running 6.10
[01:52] <sorush20> LjL: I have managed to install grub again onto the right partition the first haddisk
[01:52] <Jawshie> lemme try to figure out what it is lol
[01:52] <gnomefreak> madmax: can you?
[01:52] <hole_> k autodetect?
[01:52] <crdlb> Draconicus, you don't need a framebuffer necessarily
[01:52] <billboforealdo1> ive yet to figure out how to work wine at all. i have it though
[01:52] <LjL> sorush20: if those are the only drives you have... you should probably connect them to the primary IDE, though, not secondary
[01:52] <WhiteNoise> hey guys - when click on some video feeds from the web (say CNN.com videos), everything desplays properly but I get "(no video)" in center.  I have mozilla-mplayer mozilla-plugin-vlc, totem-mozilla all installed as well as the proprietary flash plugin.  What am I missing?  thanks.
[01:52] <Jawshie> baktaah: sudo apt-get update
[01:52] <bimberi> baktaah: vncserver (no -)
[01:52] <gnomefreak> hole_: yes
[01:52] <Twiztr> I need a program like Alcohol 120% for Ubuntu.
[01:52] <sipher> anybody get tv out working? With nvidia...svideo?
[01:52] <madmax> gnomefreak: I did not want to take the chance of loosing this connection
[01:52] <sorush20> LjL: I only have two devices..
[01:52] <Draconicus> crdlb: nv fails because it can't open up a framebuffer. Apparently that driver uses fb stuff.
[01:52] <Jawshie> bimberi: lol thanks :P
[01:52] <gnomefreak> hole_: when it gets to the driver part choose nvidia
[01:52] <Ireclan> I don't suppose anyone could help me with my mouse, could they? I've already asked in here once, and don't want to be unseemly...
[01:52] <LjL> sorush20: having the HDs connected to the secondary IDE controller is, well... i guess there's nothing intrinsically bad, but why not just connect them to the primary?
[01:52] <hole_> it suggested nv
[01:53] <parag0n> billboforealdo1, in gnome, you should just be able to double click a .exe file and it'll run in wine
[01:53] <bimberi> Jawshie: np :)
[01:53] <Twiztr> And ideas?
[01:53] <LjL> sorush20: i'm sure a few installers will get confused by that
[01:53] <hole_> should be nvidia right?
[01:53] <baktaah> Jawshie  and bimberi done now
[01:53] <Jawshie> ok
[01:53] <gnomefreak> hole_: choose nvidia
[01:53] <chasetoys> how can i install *just enough* java so that i can run eclipse? (runninb ubuntu 6.10)
[01:53] <Draconicus> hole_: If you want acceleration, yes.
[01:53] <Jawshie> in terminal type : vncserver
[01:53] <billboforealdo1> .. how do i run gnome .. :)
[01:53] <Jawshie> or vnc-server one of the two
[01:53] <Jawshie> XD
[01:53] <parag0n> feisty might not have worked because your computer could need a 386 kernel
[01:53] <Draconicus> billboforealdo1: Should run automatically. It doesn't?
[01:53] <parag0n> try installing from the alternate install CD
[01:53] <sorush20> hdd1-4 with 1 being the root kubuntu and hdc being the main windows hdd
[01:53] <PoofDaddy> Can somebody tell me how I may open my Opera browser in 2 different desktops?  I'm using Edgy.
[01:53] <baktaah> Jawshie  and bimberi done now
[01:53] <gnomefreak> madmax: opening it isnt gonna hurt yet but please find another way if you wish. ill be back in a bit
[01:53] <LjL> chasetoys: what's wrong with just installing the eclipse package and trusting the dependencies it lists? :P
[01:54] <Jawshie> baktaah: it should ask you to set passwords and suck
[01:54] <billboforealdo1> i just wasnt sure what it was
[01:54] <baktaah> Jawshie after what?
[01:54] <Jawshie> such**
[01:54] <madmax> gnomefreak: thank you
[01:54] <chasetoys> LjL:  well i did that... (sudo apt-get install eclipse)
[01:54] <parag0n> billboforealdo1, its the user interface
[01:54] <baktaah> Jawshie make sure u write baktaah everytime u write something I cant see it otherwise
[01:54] <chasetoys> but eclipse is telling me theres no java installed on my machine
[01:54] <billboforealdo1> :) lol ok
[01:54] <Jawshie> baktaah: in terminal type : vncserver     it should ask for passwords to connect
[01:54] <LjL> chasetoys: do you have Universe and Multiverse enabled?
[01:54] <billboforealdo1> why dont we just say user interface instead of gnome?
[01:54] <chasetoys> LjL: yes
[01:54] <Ireclan> Mouse trouble here...
[01:54] <parag0n> because some people use different user interfaces
[01:54] <baktaah> Jawshie
[01:54] <baktaah> baktaah@baktaah:~$ vncserver
[01:54] <baktaah> New 'X' desktop is baktaah:3
[01:54] <baktaah> Starting applications specified in /home/baktaah/.vnc/xstartup
[01:54] <baktaah> Log file is /home/baktaah/.vnc/baktaah:3.log
[01:55] <hole_> should i make my bus identifier 1:00:0 ?
[01:55] <parag0n> for example, kubuntu comes with kde, and xubuntu comes with xfce
[01:55] <baktaah> Jawshie it didnt ask
[01:55] <parag0n> ubuntu's default user interface is gnome though
[01:55] <hole_> gnomefreak should i make my bus identifier 1:00:0 ?
[01:55] <spyke_> nice to see no April fools jokes here :D
[01:55] <bimberi> baktaah: set a password with 'vncpasswd'
[01:55] <Jawshie> baktaah: gimme a sec let me do it lol havent done it in a while
[01:55] <|Jason8|> Hey all.  is there a way I can make the audio buffer larger? when I listen to music, it gets glitchy... a lot. Running 6.10
[01:55] <Jawshie> bimberi you are a lifesaver!
[01:55] <admelica> Enter text here...
[01:55] <hole_> gnomefreak or leave it be
[01:56] <LjL> chasetoys: look at the Suggests line, it lists eclipse-gcj, that will probably do the trick - although it's not Java from Sun, but a compiler from the GCC collection
[01:56] <Jawshie> I've done it a million times... like a year ago
[01:56] <gnomefreak> madmonkey: the problem you are having is a well known problem the way im askiing you to fix it is a work around since i cant remember the file name atm i think its /etc/splash.conf but cant remember but feel free to live with it the way it is. I cant help people that dont want help
[01:56] <gnomefreak> hole_: 1:00:0
[01:56] <gnomefreak> brb again
[01:56] <hole_> k
[01:56] <bimberi> Jawshie: lol, was that the issue all along?   sorry, I came in late on it :)
[01:56] <Ireclan> I have mouse problems I need help with...
[01:56] <baktaah> bimberi then what?
[01:56] <Jawshie> bimberi nah it was just you came in at the right time
[01:57] <chasetoys> anchasetoys@LilArooni:/etc/apt$ searching for compatible vm... testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...not found testing /usr/lib/kaffe/pthreads...not found testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun...not found testing /usr/lib/j2se/1.5...not found testing /usr/lib/j2se/1.4...not found testing /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-ibm...not found testing /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-ibm...not found testing /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun...not...
[01:57] <chasetoys> ...found testing /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun...not found
[01:57] <chasetoys> LjL: which should i install
[01:57] <Jawshie> baktaah: you should be ready to go.. do you have another box to test on?
[01:57] <smo> how can i erase first and last character from a awk command return ??
[01:57] <baktaah> Jawshie no.. ready to go what.. all I did was setting up a password
[01:57] <hole_> should i Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[01:57] <sorush20> I'm still getting the message cannot mount root file system (0,0) even though I logged into live cd found the menu list and edited it to the right partition ...  but grub is still trying to load the wrong partition..
[01:57] <bimberi> baktaah: i'm not up to date with the issue, what do you want to do, connect from another pc?  if so, run your vnc client and connect to <address of your pc>:3
[01:58] <baktaah> bimberi  I want to put up a server so I can connect from school (school got tightvn, Ultravnc, and vnc++)
[01:58] <sorush20> my linux system is on the second hdd first partition so its h1,0 right? LjL
[01:58] <edivaldo> o fabio nogueira est nesse chat?
[01:58] <Jawshie> baktaah: you should be ready to go if I remember correctly. you will have to set up your router or whatever if you have one, if not and are connected to the internet you will have to know your IP ... use ifconfig
[01:58] <LjL> !pt | edivaldo
[01:58] <ubotu> edivaldo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[01:58] <baktaah> Jawshie I ahvent done anything except the password
[01:58] <Jawshie> baktaah: when you did vncserver it should have started running
[01:58] <LjL> chasetoys: i don't really know... installing eclipse-gcj will probably work, and it's going to install java-gcj i assume
[01:58] <edivaldo> #ubuntu-br
[01:58] <LjL> edivaldo: /join #ubuntu-br
[01:59] <edivaldo>  /join #ubuntu-br
[01:59] <LjL> sorush20: should be
[01:59] <hole_> wow cool
[01:59] <LjL> edivaldo: sin espacio
[01:59] <sorush20> well why do I still get that silly error..
[01:59] <hole_> gnomefreak: should i Use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[01:59] <sorush20> LjL: this is why I'm asking to see if that 0,0 is stored anywhere else except..
[01:59] <Jawshie> baktaah: what is your pc's name?
[01:59] <ssstormy> hello, I have installed eagle (the pcb design software) and all the characters show up as squares
[01:59] <Puppy> does anyone know how to configure gDesklets so that weather desklet will work. When I try it says: Retrieval Failed N/A. When I try to configure the desklet it still does not work! Can anyone help me?
[01:59] <ssstormy> how do I fix that?
[01:59] <eduhat> how can i get my ubuntu box to recognize my wireless card as hostap instead of orinoco_cs?
[02:00] <sangre> if i plug in an external usb hard drive, what command should i use to mount it?  Specifically, what device should i show up as?  /dev/usb?
[02:00] <sangre> or will it be /dev/hd?
[02:00] <Ireclan> I have mouse problems...(gee, doesn't that sound familiar?!)...
[02:01] <ssstormy> sangre: it will be something like /dev/sda1
[02:01] <cliebow_> Eduhat..this a prism card per chance?
[02:01] <cliebow_> eduhat..this a prism card per chance?
[02:01] <len> can any1 help me with a USB MicroSystem?
[02:01] <HymnToLife> sangre, /dev/sdX
[02:01] <HymnToLife> with X being a number of course ;)
[02:02] <LadyNikon> !ntfs
[02:02] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:02] <smo> if a cript return [something]  how can i remove the []  in the result???
[02:02] <smo> script*
[02:02] <len> nobody?
[02:02] <HymnToLife> what kind of script ?
[02:02] <bruenig> smo, pastebin the script
[02:02] <bruenig> !pastebin | smo
[02:02] <ubotu> smo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:02] <LjL> sorush20: look at your menu.lst, and make sure the UUID that is listed for root (root=UUID=blahblah) matches the actual UUID of your partition. use  blkid  to get a list of your partitions' UUID (if you can access a working system, that is...)
[02:03] <gnomefreak> hole_: yes use frambuffer
[02:03] <smo> i know pastebin...
[02:03] <sangre_> wow, i just plugged in the usb hard drive, and ubuntu recognized it right away, just opened a window on my desktop
[02:03] <sangre_> that is awesome!
[02:03] <bruenig> !offtopic | sangre
[02:03] <ubotu> sangre: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:03] <Draconicus> crdlb: nv fails because it can't open up a framebuffer. Apparently that driver uses fb stuff. (repeating - you seemed absent)
[02:03] <LadyNikon> how was that off topic?
[02:03] <smo> you don t need to see the script ...
[02:03] <PoofDaddy> Can anyone tell me how i can use different Opera browsers on different desktops?  The default seems to prohit this.
[02:03] <Puppy> can anyone help with gdesklets?
[02:03] <sangre_> ubotu: where should i go for ubuntu help then?
[02:03] <bruenig> smo, yeah, because we need to know what is causing the output
[02:03] <Draconicus> PoofDaddy: Play around with Opera settings so that it allows more than one instance.
[02:04] <Ireclan> Some help with my mouse would be appreciated...
[02:04] <LadyNikon> sangre_: that would be bruenig who sent you that message
[02:04] <HymnToLife> Ireclan, what's up with your mouse ?
[02:04] <bruenig> smo, is it an echo, if it is an echo then you should be able to simply modify the echo command, if it is something else it would require something else
[02:04] <LadyNikon> ubotu only talks when someone talks to it
[02:04] <smo> it is
[02:04] <HymnToLife> !ubotu
[02:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:04] <sangre_> LadyNikon: thanks
[02:04] <madmax> gnomefreak: are you still here?
[02:04] <LadyNikon> np
[02:04] <crdlb> Draconicus, if you dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, it will give you the option of enabling a framebuffer
[02:04] <eduhat> cliebow_: sorry, but yes it is a prism card
[02:04] <bruenig> it is offtopic because it is neither requesting support nor providing it, it is random chatter
[02:05] <gnomefreak> madmax: i am
[02:05] <Draconicus> crdlb: I thought I enabled that... but alright. Thanks. I knew that. Wasn't sure how it went away in the first place...
[02:05] <len> does any1 has a Phillips Mcm595 Sound System and got it working with linux?
[02:05] <cliebow_> eduhat:havnt got mine to work either..i have blacklisted orinoco_pci..but hostap_pcidoes no better
[02:05] <madmax> gnomefreak: I did what you said, but i am not sure what it did
[02:05] <gnomefreak> hole_: did you just restartX?
[02:05] <bruenig> smo, well if you will pastebin the script, I will help, I don't feel comfortable blindly telling you how to modify a script
[02:05] <gnomefreak> madmax: did it open a file?
[02:06] <madmax> gnomefreak: yes
[02:06] <hole_> no my puter froze when it tried autodetect my monitor
[02:06] <Puppy> please, can anyone help with desklets?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> #            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
[02:06] <eduhat> cliebow_: i know in debian all i had to do was to apt-get the module and restart.
[02:06] <gnomefreak> madmax: are those the first 2 lines
[02:06] <hole_> what was that command to configure everything again
[02:06] <eduhat> doesnt ubuntu use debian packages?
[02:06] <Jawshie> eduhat, yes
[02:06] <hole_> eduhat some
[02:06] <smo> ok bruenig wait
[02:06] <HymnToLife> more or less
[02:06] <eduhat> i have an idea
[02:06] <sangre_> ok, my usb hard drive shows up fine when i plug it in, detects it and everything, but i looks empty.  i am pretty sure i have files on it.  any idea why that would be the case?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> hole_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:06] <Ireclan> HymnToLife: It works like crap in Ubuntu. It stutters across the screen, moves slow, and sometimes my clicks aren't recognized. This is only if I boot with it. If, on the other hand, I boot with my HP mouse, then hot-swap my other mouse, it works as the HP mouse does (perfectly).
[02:06] <crdlb> Draconicus, you may need to: sudo modprobe nvidiafb , but I don
[02:06] <hole_> k
[02:06] <gnomefreak> hole_: did it not work?
[02:06] <cliebow_> eduhat:ine hasnt worked since kernel 2.6.17-7 where it worked perfectlyu
[02:06] <madmax> gnomefreak: I really did not see anything
[02:07] <Jawshie> Eduhat: let me rephrase that.... kinda
[02:07] <crdlb> Draconicus, don't think that's necessary
[02:07] <eduhat> what if i were to put a debian repo in my sources.list .... just for one module?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> madmax: make sure you typed in the file name path right
[02:07] <hole_> up until i tried to configure my monitor everything went smoothly
[02:07] <Jawshie> Eduhat: Ubuntu is BASED on debian but has a lot of changes... some will work some wont and some are made specifically for ubuntu and wont work on debian
[02:07] <HymnToLife> eduhat, you don't want to do that
[02:07] <crdlb> eduhat, that would be bad
[02:07] <Draconicus> crdlb: Right. Also, I was a little confused. You want me to DISABLE kernel framebuffer bits in X. Of course. I want framebuffer though. It's handy.... Ah well. Hang on.
[02:07] <gnomefreak> eduhat: may experinence issues in future
[02:07] <HymnToLife> eduhat, what's the module in question ?
[02:07] <madmax> gnomefreak: I am pretty sure, not sure of # of spaces though
[02:07] <gnomefreak> hole_: but you saw the nvidia splash?
[02:07] <LadyNikon> i didnt know there was an ubuntu 7.04
[02:07] <DGMurdockIII> can you see this
[02:08] <cliebow_> the  odule Does  load in 2.6.20-13
[02:08] <crdlb> Draconicus, no based on what you're saying, you do need to enable the framebuffer
[02:08] <bruenig> !feisty | LadyNikon
[02:08] <ubotu> LadyNikon: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:08] <gnomefreak> madmax: close it and retype sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:08] <LadyNikon> ...
[02:08] <`Omega> !feisty
[02:08] <`Omega> !feisty | `Omega
[02:08] <DesertEagle> guys, i'm trying to compile something and it says gimp-print >= 4.2 not found, synaptic says i have version 5 but i can't find the gimpprint-config anywhere
[02:08] <gnomefreak> `Omega: #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[02:08] <hole_> no
[02:08] <DesertEagle> any ideas?
[02:08] <DesertEagle> =\
[02:08] <Ireclan> So, can anyone help me with my mouse?
[02:08] <hole_> no splash screen
[02:08] <cliebow_> eduhat: the  module Does  load in 2.6.20-13
[02:08] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: You mean gksudo gedit?
[02:08] <Jawshie> ireclan whats the problem...
[02:08] <bruenig> DesertEagle, what are you compiling
[02:08] <smo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13470/
[02:09] <DesertEagle> gimpshop
[02:09] <smo> bruenig
[02:09] <`Omega> I am just curious to see what that says.
[02:09] <cliebow_> eduhat:shows as a wired card in network-mangler?
[02:09] <smo> i added what i "want"
[02:09] <LadyNikon> hmm
[02:09] <gnomefreak> hole_: ok run the reconfugure command again let it auto detect and this time leave the ZBusID alone
[02:09] <smo> or what i search..
[02:09] <Draconicus> crdlb: No. I need to tell X not to use the framebuffer, which is what I did. nv seems to load the desktop bits a lot faster than the nvidia driver did. Interesting. Anyway, now to test the video.
[02:09] <Ireclan> It works like crap in Ubuntu. It stutters across the screen, moves slow, and sometimes my clicks aren't recognized. This is only if I boot with it. If, on the other hand, I boot with my HP mouse, then hot-swap my other mouse, it works as the HP mouse does (perfectly).
[02:09] <DesertEagle> bruenig: gimpshop, the supposedly ubuntu debian binary on their site doesn't work
[02:09] <gnomefreak> !feisty > `Omega  | `Omega please read your pm from ubotu
[02:09] <`Omega> gnomefreak - I already got it, thanks.
[02:09] <Jawshie> Ire: what version of Ubuntu are you using
[02:09] <crdlb> Draconicus, I believe "nv" still supports Xv
[02:10] <LadyNikon> anyone use ubuntu 6.10 and views their windows partition? if so.. how stable is it?
[02:10] <Ireclan> Jawshie, 6.10.
[02:10] <madmax> gnomefreak: I wrote down what you said to type and it did open an empty folder
[02:10] <Jawshie> Lady: I do it and its fine
[02:10] <LadyNikon> Jawshie: sweet.
[02:10] <Draconicus> crdlb: Works fine and dandy straight into vlc, which always crashed. Lemme just reinstall nvidia drivers and hope that fixes it. Cross your fingers and chew some gum.
[02:10] <Jawshie> Ireclan: gimme just a sec ok?
[02:10] <Lo0gan> good night
[02:10] <HymnToLife> LadyNikon, 100% stable and safe
[02:10] <Adlai> LadyNikon: ntfs-3g is a good package
[02:10] <HymnToLife> as long as you don't want to write to it :)
[02:10] <macd> LadyNikon, seconded, read/write is pretty good.
[02:11] <DesertEagle> why won't find "/home" -name "my goddamn eraser" work? =(
[02:11] <crdlb> Draconicus, gum is bad for your teeth
[02:11] <gnomefreak> madmax: it shouldnt have. try copying and pasting the command
[02:11] <alexnb185> hey guys
[02:11] <bruenig> smo, where is the problem
[02:11] <alexnb185> i have a question i have a feeling like ll of yall know
[02:11] <macd> DesertEagle, whitespace
[02:11] <Dave-ubu> LadyNikon: reading NTFS partitions is very stable - writing to it gives mixed results - some say that alls ok - some say that it can corrupt - FAT32 is fine though for read and write
[02:11] <Jawshie> LadyNikon: I think in Ubuntu if you want to write to your ntfs drive you will have to edit fstab or rightclick > properties
[02:11] <smo> just i have [Radeon 9200]  for exmeple now on my pc i just want Radeon 9200
[02:11] <macd> "my/ goddamn/ eraser"
[02:11] <smo> not the [] 
[02:11] <DesertEagle> ah! thanks :D
[02:11] <jrib> DesertEagle: do you have any files named "my goddamn eraser"?
[02:11] <madmax> gnomefreak: I am sorry, I must have missed something, which command?
[02:11] <DesertEagle> lol no, i was j/k
[02:11] <dauoalagio2> Hello is there a program that works like a stopwatch?
[02:12] <LamerC> How can I get a new program to run on a slightly older OS (GIMP 2.2.13 on Ubuntu 6.06)
[02:12] <DesertEagle> can't find my eraser anywhere :(
[02:12] <alexnb185> Can any of you guys tell me how to make a daul boot xp and unbuntu machine without having to lose my info and back it up... like I have xp alreaddy installed....
[02:12] <LadyNikon> ah
[02:12] <DesertEagle> i need it
[02:12] <eduhat> so how could i get the hostap module to work?
[02:12] <gnomefreak> madmax: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:12] <macd> DesertEagle, wait, actualy "my/ goddamn/ eraser\"
[02:12] <bruenig> smo, right but where is that in the script, what line
[02:12] <macd> but yeah thats it ;)
[02:12] <gnomefreak> madmax: and that is not a typo
[02:12] <HymnToLife> LamerC, build from source
[02:12] <LadyNikon> im reading the guide on NTFS.. but wanted personal options thanks all!
[02:12] <jrib> DesertEagle: look on the side of your desk
[02:12] <cliebow_> eduhat:it shows in network-mangler as a wired card?
[02:12] <smo> look 15 and 17
[02:12] <eduhat> cliebow_: what???
[02:12] <cliebow_> eduhat:it shows in network-manager as a wired card?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: i know ty
[02:13] <bruenig> smo, so you want the ATIMOD to not have brackets?
[02:13] <alexnb185> CAN I GET SOME HELP FROM SOMEONE WHO IS OR KNOWS HOW TO RUN XP AND UBUNTU ON THE SAME MACHINE???
[02:13] <smo> yeah
[02:13] <DesertEagle> OMG SURE!
[02:13] <DesertEagle> O_O
[02:13] <gnomefreak> alexnb185: lose the caps please
[02:13] <alexnb185> =] 
[02:13] <alexnb185> i kno
[02:13] <alexnb185> no one was answering
[02:13] <alexnb185> ok
[02:13] <Jawshie> Ireclan: can you post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf on pastelib?
[02:13] <madmax> gnomefreak: i did type that, nothing is there
[02:13] <EnderTheThird> Anyone know how to force Myth to use Zap2It guide info for a channel if it doesn't automatically use it?  I have some DT/HD channels that aren't shown in Zap2It, but the regular channel info is available
[02:13] <gnomefreak> madmax: are you using ubuntu?
[02:13] <EnderTheThird> I'd like to use the SD channel guide info for the HD channel
[02:13] <LadyNikon> !fluxbox
[02:13] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[02:13] <madmax> gnomefreak: yes
[02:14] <macd> alexnb185, do you want to run them at the same time, or just be able to choose when you power on?
[02:14] <avvalon> Can someone tell me the fastest file transfer from Ubuntu to Windows from a remote Ubuntu box?
[02:14] <Ireclan> Jawshie: On WHERE?
[02:14] <alexnb185> my question is i have xp on the machine already, and I want to know how to install ubuntu as a os choice on my HDD without losing any info on the HDD
[02:14] <gnomefreak> madmax: are you using grub?
[02:14] <DesertEagle> why do i have "I will survive" playing? i'm not gay :(
[02:14] <madmax> gnomefreak: yes
[02:14] <avvalon> Security is not important btw.
[02:14] <alexnb185> choose when i power on
[02:14] <gnomefreak> madmax: default boot loader
[02:14] <Syska> Hi, I have a snmp cable router, and it says in the manual that I can monitor via a snmp client ... my question is ... what program can i use monitor ?
[02:14] <Jawshie> Ireclan: my bad just a sec
[02:14] <gnomefreak> madmax: than the file is there
[02:14] <_nick> Is there a gnome users/group app that shows me ALL of my users?... the one bundled kind of sucks
[02:14] <DesertEagle> alexnb185: partition magic
[02:14] <macd> alexnb185, put the CD in, resize the windows partition, and let it install.
[02:14] <gnomefreak> madmax: try cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:14] <DesertEagle> or that
[02:14] <bruenig> smo, this should work, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13474/
[02:14] <macd> alexnb185, the LiveCD.
[02:14] <alexnb185> ok well whats a good size for hte patition
[02:14] <cliebow_> alexnb185, it will do it almost automatically..but BACK uo your stuff
[02:14] <smo> i try thx :)
[02:14] <madmax> gnomefreak: yes, but there is still an empty folder
[02:14] <gnomefreak> theres also a grbu livecd i beileve
[02:15] <eduhat> cliebow_: what do you mean?? the module that it has works find... its just that it is supposed to use hostap
[02:15] <gnomefreak> grub
[02:15] <LamerC> Off topic q?  Are there any undergoing projects/standards that would help make precompiled biniries of a software more standard/universal?
[02:15] <DesertEagle> LamerC: since 1994 :P
[02:15] <gnomefreak> madmax: it cant be empty or you wouldnt be booting at all
[02:15] <macd> alexnb185, you have to choose a size b/t say 1.6gb and <
[02:15] <Jawshie> Ireclan: go here and paste it and give me the resulting link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:15] <gnomefreak> LamerC: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:15] <bimberi> alexnb185: 1. Backup.  2. Defrag.  3. Install Ubuntu - it will offer resizing of your Windows partition.  Did I mention _Back-Up_ though!
[02:15] <alexnb185> ok
[02:15] <alexnb185> ok and macd i think u mentioned running them symultanisouly??
[02:16] <_nick_> is there a gnome users/groups app that lets me manage ALL of my users? the one bundled sucks.
[02:16] <cliebow_> eduhat;if it works..just leave it....what kernel are you running..
[02:16] <gnomefreak> hole_: work?
[02:16] <eduhat> cliebow_: what did you mean when you said something about it being mangled as wired?
[02:16] <macd> alexnb185, thats prolly not a attainable goal for you yet
[02:16] <hole_> gnomefreak i got my splash screen but quake3 still crashes x
[02:16] <eduhat> cliebow_: 2.6.17-11
[02:16] <alexnb185> lol ok
[02:16] <DesertEagle> so like... why does synaptic say i have gimp-print 5 but i can't find gimpprint-config?
[02:16] <tuxub> hi, i had my cups-pdf working and not its not working after some update i made :( how can i make it work again?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> hole_: than that is a quake issue sorry
[02:16] <hole_> and glxgears works well now
[02:16] <cliebow_> eduhat:my wireless card shows innetwork-manager as a wired card
[02:17] <gnomefreak> hole_: best way to tell is glxinfo | grep direct
[02:17] <alexnb185> so you guys want me to defrag, backup, and hten put the live cd int he comptuer and let it boot, then choose install ont eh desktop and partition at least 1.6gb of space????
[02:17] <sipher> any idea why I can't get tv out working?
[02:17] <eduhat> cliebow_: are there features that some modules are limited to? like are there any advantages the hostap has over orinoco_cs?
[02:17] <PoofDaddy> Draconicus: I'm not finding anything with the keywords "workspace" or "instance" on opera:config.  Are you familiar with Opera?  Can you give me any other suggestions?
[02:17] <cliebow_> yep
[02:17] <hole_> direct rendering yes
[02:17] <macd> alexnb185, thats the idea, I'd go at least 5 gb myself
[02:17] <cliebow_> eduhat, i think not
[02:17] <sipher> it needs direct rendering?
[02:17] <alexnb185> ok thanks a lot you guys were a big help
[02:17] <Ireclan> Jawshie, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13475/
[02:17] <alexnb185> =] 
[02:18] <gnomefreak> hole_: ok good 3d is working. quake is than crashing because of quake not ubuntu
[02:18] <shinichizio> Is there a way to check what kind of system resources I'm using?
[02:18] <DesertEagle> tuxub: look for cups-pdf in synaptic and reinstall it?
[02:18] <gnomefreak> sipher: his card has it with 3d drivers
[02:18] <eduhat> so... there are advanteges or none?
[02:18] <_nick_> can anyone recommend a good gnome users-groups admin tool?
[02:18] <Joebu[NoR] > any nvidia gurus in here tonight?
[02:18] <cliebow_> i think no advantage
[02:18] <gnomefreak> with nvidia cards you will get direct rendering using the nvidia-glx drivers
[02:18] <gnomefreak> Joebu[NoR] : depends what you want?
[02:18] <Jawshie> Ireclan: what type of mouse are you having problems with exactly? USB ?    BTW: Why dont you just use the hp one? :P
[02:19] <tuxub> DesertEagle, already did that a few times
[02:19] <madmax> gnimefreak: i tried cat /boot/grub/menu.1st: no such file
[02:19] <shinichizio> !system manager
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <shinichizio> :/
[02:19] <DesertEagle> tuxub: no clue as to the last thing you installed?
[02:19] <grantgm> shinichizio: System->Administration->System monitor
[02:19] <gnomefreak> madmax: lst not 1st
[02:19] <grantgm> is that what you're looking for?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> madmax: its an "el" not a "one"
[02:19] <tuxub> DesertEagle, i think it stopped working after an regular update
[02:19] <bruenig> shinichizio, top
[02:19] <shinichizio> grantgm: Is there a way to launch that from the terminal? The system menu seems to not want to launch it.
[02:19] <safer> OK - I need serious help on something that may seem a little bit off "ubuntu" topic
[02:19] <madmax> gnomefreak: i tried again< gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st still empty
[02:19] <shinichizio> Okay, now it's not wanting to launch the terminal. THIS is fun.
[02:20] <DesertEagle> safer: #ubuntu-offtopic?
[02:20] <eduhat> cliebow_: allright, then im satified with orinoco
[02:20] <gnomefreak> madmax: you are typing a one not an l
[02:20] <madmax> gnomefreak: sorry
[02:20] <DesertEagle> tuxub: looked for all CUPS stuff to make sure they were there?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> madmax: and use sudo
[02:20] <cliebow_> eduhat, keep a wether eye on it when you upgrade to fisty
[02:20] <grantgm> shinichizio: "gnome-system-monitor"?
[02:20] <madmax> gnomefreak: back soon
[02:20] <Ireclan> Jawshie: PS/2. And I can't because I'm trading the HP one for the one I want to use. The guy I'm trading with let me keep both until such time as I can get the one I want to work.
[02:20] <DGMurdockIII> hi
[02:20] <sipher> gnomefreak any ideas why tv out isn't working?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> sipher: no
[02:21] <tuxub> DesertEagle, yes. the printer is there. i print to it, no error appear but no file appears in ~/PDF
[02:21] <grantgm> that does it for me
[02:21] <sipher> gnomefreak theres no errors in the xorg logs
[02:21] <gnomefreak> sipher: not paying attention to that issue sorry.
[02:21] <_nick_> that doesnt have a user manager does it?
[02:21] <grantgm> or are you looking for something that will show up in the terminal?
[02:21] <sipher> gnomefreak fine.
[02:21] <sipher> thanks anyway
[02:21] <gnomefreak> sipher: i dont do tv sorry
[02:21] <SG_Dirka> hi there, im kind of a noob, but i am running dapper drake server editon on another computer and im trying to run a vsftpd server, and i am confused how to edit the /etc/vsftpd.conf file
[02:21] <Jawshie> Ireclan: PS/2 is not really meant to be plugged in while the plug is "hot" so to speak lol  but anyways i'll try to find something to help you
[02:21] <DesertEagle> tuxub: any app or just a specific one?
[02:22] <eduhat> cliebow_: fisty???
[02:22] <gnomefreak> ok going to bed now.
[02:22] <cliebow_> Balls..feisty
[02:22] <SG_Dirka> anyone gonna answer?
[02:22] <cliebow_> feisty is 7.04
[02:22] <delcoyote> sorry to bother again how do i know wich version is samba?
[02:23] <delcoyote> using equivs uses 1.0 as default
[02:23] <cliebow_> dpkg -l|grep samba
[02:23] <delcoyote> cliebow_: thanks
[02:23] <cliebow_> 8~)
[02:23] <SG_Dirka> agh! how do i edit a file!
[02:23] <cliebow_> might even be right!
[02:23] <grantgm> SG_Dirka: are you on the server right now?
[02:23] <tuxub> DesertEagle, any app
[02:23] <DGMurdockIII> I hae been trying to dual boot xp pro and ubuntu. oonce i install linux neither OS will boot unless I modify the grub at boot
[02:23] <madmax> gnomefreak: I have the file open now, I sorry, what is it i am looking for?
[02:23] <SG_Dirka> Grantgm: Yup, right next to me
[02:24] <Jawshie> Ireclan: is it optical or ball mouse btw? If its ball you may try cleaning it out on the wheels inside just in case.
[02:24] <DesertEagle> tuxub: maybe the files are being saved somewhere else?
[02:24] <grantgm> ok...what is on the screen?
[02:24] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, has anyone helped you yet?
[02:24] <grantgm> are you logged in?
[02:24] <superdummy> anyone else having trouble out of Xchat??
[02:24] <tuxub> DesertEagle, like where?
[02:24] <DesertEagle> tuxub: locate .pdf ? ^_~
[02:25] <just-this-time> how do I change language of icons in gnome ? have greek and english now english icons
[02:25] <SG_Dirka> crazytom: Nope, not really
[02:25] <Ireclan> Jawshie: It's a ball mouse, and I KNOW it isn't a hardware issue, because it works just fine on Windows.
[02:25] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, what text editing program do you use?
[02:25] <madmax> gnomefreak: i am seeing something about floopy drives, I do not even have one
[02:25] <Jawshie> Ireclan: I see.
[02:25] <grantgm> SG_Dirka: whats on the screen? have you logged in?
[02:26] <DGMurdockIII> I hae been trying to dual boot xp pro and ubuntu. oonce i install linux neither OS will boot unless I modify the grub at boot
[02:26] <xnitex> i have a question about installing themes and such
[02:26] <xnitex> well first off
[02:26] <SG_Dirka> I have logged in, and i have whatever is built in for text editor
[02:26] <bimberi> SG_Dirka: 'sudo nano /etc/vsftpd.config' (for example)
[02:26] <xnitex> how can i update kde 3.5.5 to kde 3.5.6 i've searched everywhere?
[02:26] <Crazytom> vi /etc/vsftpd.conf
[02:26] <SammyF> help! XMMS and Audacity don't have any fonts in the menus anymore
[02:27] <linxeh> with knetworkmanager how do I tell it to use a static IP ?
[02:27] <pirea> Anyone know how to specify what resolution you want to start X in? Assuming there's a line I need to add to .Xdefaults.
[02:27] <madmax> gnomefreak: are you still here?
[02:27] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, vi /etc/vsftpd.conf
[02:27] <Jawshie> Ireclan: on line  58 try changing Explorerps/2 to PS/2 and see if that helps.
[02:27] <bimberi> vi? for a noob? hmm.
[02:27] <_nick> what user does apache /php run as?
[02:27] <SammyF> SG_Dirka, instead of vi type nano
[02:27] <DGMurdockIII> I hae been trying to dual boot xp pro and ubuntu. oonce i install linux neither OS will boot unless I modify the grub at boot
[02:28] <Crazytom> bimberi, i don't know what is installed by default i use joe
[02:28] <SG_Dirka> ok, i did
[02:28] <SG_Dirka> and i get a blank document
[02:28] <SammyF> Crazytom, nano is installed by default
[02:28] <Ireclan> Jawshie: Is that an actual protocol you found?
[02:28] <grantgm> SG_Dirka: you'll need to do "sudo vi /etc/vsftpd.conf". Then press "i" to be able to edit. when you want to leave, press "Esc" then ":x" and enter
[02:28] <Crazytom> SammyF, thanks
[02:28] <_nick> gaaah
[02:28] <Jawshie> Ireclan: yes.   You will need to restart x for it to take effect.
[02:28] <SammyF> Crazytom, it's relatively noob friendly
[02:28] <mycroftiv> DGMurdockIII: it sounds like you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst to match the options you need to enter while booting
[02:28] <SammyF> Crazytom, at least way friendlier than VI ;)
[02:29] <bimberi> Crazytom: kk.  nano is there too.  It's a bit more 'familiar' than vi :)
[02:29] <madmax> gnomefreak: still here?
[02:29] <_nick> does anyone know what user apache2/php5 will run as?
[02:29] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, ok then sudo nano /etc/vsftpd.conf
[02:29] <grantgm> vi's not _that_ bad (as long as you know how to get out of it :)
[02:29] <SG_Dirka> am i supposed to get a blank one?
[02:29] <bimberi> grantgm: and how to insert text :)
[02:29] <DGMurdockIII> yes but when I try to edit the file I can't get save teh modification. I tried to log into root but the passwor won't work
[02:30] <DesertEagle> grantgm: hehehe, i've been using linux for like 6 years now (although not constantly) and just now learned how to use the delete and backspace keys appropriately
[02:30] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, not if the file is supposed to be there
[02:30] <linxeh> _nick: www-data here
[02:30] <grantgm> bimberi: lol...true. I don't think my instructions were too bad though: "sudo vi /etc/vsftpd.conf". Then press "i" to be able to edit. when you want to leave, press "Esc" then ":x" and enter
[02:30] <Jawshie> grantgm: I find vi is not the best choice in ubuntu but all other distros are great :P    Ubuntu use gedit
[02:30] <madmax> gnomefreak: did I upset you?
[02:31] <grantgm> Jawshie: he's on a server though, so only command line
[02:31] <DesertEagle> grantgm: Esc = Ctrl+D? :|
[02:31] <Jawshie> ooooooh
[02:31] <_nick> hmmm.. i have that user, and i gave it group access to a directory (770), but my web server still wont show it
[02:31] <madmax> gnomefreak: if I did, i am sorry
[02:31] <DesertEagle> :x = :wq? :|
[02:31] <bruenig> grantgm, use vim instead of vi
[02:31] <bimberi> grantgm: spot on! :)
[02:31] <Crazytom> i use joe
[02:31] <cliebow_> madman; he must be thicker skinned than that
[02:32] <DGMurdockIII> yes but when I try to edit the file I can't get save teh modification. I tried to log into root but the passwor won't work
[02:32] <bimberi> madmax: 10:22 < gnomefreak> ok going to bed now.
[02:32] <grantgm> bruenig: for a quick edit it doesn't make much difference...and vi saves you one key stroke!
[02:32] <madmax> gnomefreak: I still have an open file and I dont know what to do with it
[02:33] <Jordan_U> I need to back up my entire HD as an image to multiple DVD's , what would be the esiest way to do this?
[02:33] <Jawshie> Ireclan: you ok bud? Lol
[02:34] <Crazytom> DGMurdockIII, just use sudo in front of the command and then use your own password
[02:34] <n-iCe> Hii
[02:34] <n-iCe> i can't connect to internet
[02:34] <bimberi> SG_Dirka: the file is vsftpd.conf
[02:34] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, Wifi or wired?
[02:34] <Jawshie> n-iCe: Seems to be working to me :P
[02:34] <DesertEagle> n-iCe: hmmm.... somehow i doubt that
[02:34] <DGMurdockIII> can youb explain more
[02:34] <DesertEagle> :P
[02:34] <mycroftiv> DGMurdockIII: can you tell your system to boot in single-user mode, then edit the file from root?
[02:34] <Ireclan> Jawshie: I googled for ALL the possible protocols. I'm currently writing them down, so if PS/2 doesn't work, I have options.
[02:34] <n-iCe> Jordan_U dsl
[02:34] <Crazytom> Jawshie, i wanted to say that soo bad
[02:34] <Jawshie> Ireclan: lol ok
[02:35] <Jawshie> Crazytom: :P
[02:35] <mycroftiv> DGMurdockIII: you can also reset your password while in single-user mode
[02:35] <matt_> i am looking to securely wipe a hard disk, like 30 times, how would i do that in edgy? any good tools?
[02:35] <n-iCe>  DSL coNNECTIOn how can i add it
[02:35] <madmax> anyone know what to do with an open "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" file
[02:35] <DesertEagle> close it?
[02:35] <DGMurdockIII> I'm new to linux can you explain more
[02:35] <delcoyote> gnomefreak: Pollywog: thanks a million it seems that samba is not there anymore, y used equivs thanks again for your time and help
[02:36] <madmax> i need to fix something according to gnomefreak
[02:36] <DesertEagle> ooooh yeah
[02:36] <grantgm> what are you trying to fix?
[02:36] <DesertEagle> you're trying to dual-boot right?
[02:36] <madmax> he has left the scene
[02:36] <n-iCe> I have  DSL coNNECTIOn i can't get connect to internet
[02:36] <SammyF> sigh .. GTK1 apps don't have any font anymore.. any help??
[02:36] <cliebow_> madmax:what are you into?
[02:36] <DesertEagle> SammyF: have you tried switching themes?
[02:36] <Crazytom> DGMurdockIII, about sudo?
[02:36] <DGMurdockIII> yes
[02:36] <Jawshie> n-iCe: What kind of dsl exactly... meaning is it JUST a modem with one connection or is it a small router?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, Ethernet cable directly to your DSL modem?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, Or through a router?
[02:37] <SG_Dirka> ...
[02:37] <Jawshie> Jordan_U: You take it :P
[02:37] <SG_Dirka> oops wrong box
[02:37] <SammyF> DesertEagle, not yet
[02:37] <madmax> cliebow: trying to fix a "out of range" message when booting
[02:37] <SammyF> DesertEagle, gonna give it a try .. one sec
[02:37] <n-iCe> Jordan_U: ethernet cable from my pc to my dsl modem
[02:37] <venox> hey.. is there anyway to run an application using a single core? I'm having speed issues with dual core and some games... they seem to be too fast and I have synchronization issues with sound and networking. any ideas?
[02:37] <kingcobra> does anybody know a good download manager that integrates well into firefox and gnome
[02:38] <SG_Dirka> wait, crazy tom: i am confused, what do i do? enter that command then when i get there i just hit "i"?
[02:38] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, did you type sudo vi  or sudo nano?
[02:38] <doc|> http://mail.google.com/mail/help/paper/more.html
[02:39] <SG_Dirka> hello? did i disconnect again?
[02:39] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, And what have you tried so far to get it connected?
[02:39] <kingcobra> doc|, its good isnt it
[02:39] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, no you're still here
[02:39] <Jordan_U> SG_Dirka, I see you
[02:39] <madmax> cliebow: are you there?
[02:39] <Crazytom> SG_Dirka, are you logged into the machine you're trying to edit the file on?
[02:40] <DGMurdockIII> do i put sudo in fron of my user name
[02:40] <cliebow_> yes/: so you are commenting out splash in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:40] <madmax> cliebow: after first splash screen
[02:41] <LadyNikon> !ubuntu
[02:41] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:41] <LadyNikon> opps
[02:41] <LadyNikon> !ntfs
[02:41] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:41] <roachclit> okay guys I just did that update and now I can't get GAIM to work and I can't get TERMINAL or konsole to work
[02:41] <roachclit> anyone got any clues?
[02:41] <n-iCe> Jordan_U: to share my connection with my virtual one
[02:41] <_nnx_> I've just upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, and I seem to have an utter glut of old packages in my APT cache.  How do I purge those for Dapper WITHOUT purging those for Edgy, if there's a way?
[02:41] <Crazytom> DGMurdockIII, no just in front of the command
[02:41] <hateyla> i want to change my Mac address how can i change it?
[02:41] <DGMurdockIII> what command
[02:42] <cliebow_> madmax:hmm i dont have grub on this ppc..
[02:42] <madmax> cliebow: I now have open " sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst" as per gnomefreak
[02:42] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, So you are running Ubuntu in a virtual machine? What do you mean by "share my connection with my virtual one"?
[02:42] <Dirka> hello?
[02:42] <roachclit> has anyone had any problems with updating at all?
[02:42] <cliebow_> need to move to other machine
[02:42] <_nnx_> Furthermore, how do I go about backing up my apt cache?
[02:42] <SammyF> DesertEagle, sigh .. changing the theme didn't help
[02:42] <roachclit> two of my programs won't even open now
[02:42] <Jawshie> Jordan_U: I think he means windows in a vm
[02:42] <Jordan_U> cliebow_, Then you have yaboot
[02:42] <Dirka> is anyone there? (this is SGDirka, on another program)
[02:42] <madmax> cliebow; he did not say what to edit here
[02:42] <cliebow_> madmax:what kernel are you running
[02:42] <cliebow_> yaboot
[02:42] <KurtKraut> _nnx_, sudo aptitude autoclean does that.
[02:43] <cliebow_> i just want to look at mine
[02:43] <KurtKraut> _nnx_, but you have to do and sudo aptitude update before running that
[02:43] <madmax> cliebow: all i know is that it is ubuntu
[02:43] <hateyla> i want to change my Mac address how can i change it? plz someone help me i m new? i just install edgy my system and want to update it from net? but my admin set ip/mac setting.. so my pc mac is different address so how can i change it?
[02:43] <_nnx_> Kurtkraut: It'll kill the Dapper packages without killing the Edgy packages?
[02:43] <_nnx_> Dirka: We can hear you.
[02:43] <Jawshie> hateyla: you dont
[02:43] <Dirka> okey, geuss there are ppl, crazytom: Wat do i do
[02:43] <madmax> cliebow: kds maybe, grub yes
[02:43] <dirkson> Hey all. Just did a feisty fawn install.... It automatically adds the CDROM as a repo, and there doesn't seem to be a GUI option to turn it off. Easy enough to fix, if you know how, but is this desirable behavior? WHY would you force people to keep their CDs around after the install??
[02:43] <KurtKraut> _nnx_, yes. Or at least, this is what I understood from the documentation: man aptitude
[02:44] <hateyla> Jawshie: But i ChAnged it in Windows so In Edgy there is no option?
[02:44] <cliebow_> madmaz:ineed to know what kernel you run so you can comment out spalsh and quiet
[02:44] <n-iCe> Jordan_U: yes well, the virtual one makes new connections and before i installed Fedora Core, it was shared and i didnt have to change anything, i just had internet nothin else..
[02:44] <dimas> guys i am trying to use "creative live! cam vista im" and when i try to test it with camorama it saids "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) please check connection"...what should i do?...i already check ubuntu forum
[02:44] <_nnx_> KurtKraut: Excellent.  Also, do you know how I can back up the entire cache? I'd kind of like to burn the whole thing to DVD before I obliterate it.
[02:44] <cliebow_> jn the stanza for that kernel
[02:44] <Jawshie> hateyla: a MAC address is burned into the NIC card. it can't be chanced per se
[02:44] <madmax> cliebow: how do you know which kernal
[02:44] <roachclit> Does anyone know why I would have a problem with opening up TERMINAL and GAIM after I just updated my ubuntu?
[02:44] <Jawshie> hateyla: you must have used a third party spoofing program.
[02:44] <Jordan_U> dirkson, That is offtopic for this channel, try #ubuntu+1 or #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:44] <cliebow_> admax..at commandline..uname -r
[02:44] <cliebow_> madmax..at commandline..uname -r
[02:45] <dirkson> Jordan_U, Thank you
[02:45] <KurtKraut> _nnx_, the cache is in /var/cache/apt/archives ... just burn those files.
[02:45] <kingcobra> does anybody know a good download manager that integrates well into firefox and gnome
[02:45] <Jawshie> hateyla: I dont think anybody here would be willing to help you spoof your mac address...
[02:45] <Jordan_U> I need to back up my entire HD as an image to multiple DVD's , what would be the easiest way to do this?
[02:45] <roachclit> Does anyone know why I would have a problem with opening up TERMINAL and GAIM after I just updated my ubuntu?
[02:45] <LamerC> If I compile a newer version of the GTK2 libraries directly from the GTK2 sources at GTK.org, this won't break other ubuntu GTK2 apps, or will it?
[02:45] <_nnx_> KurtKraut: Is there any special index or anything I need to burn as well, so that if I were to drop the .deb's back in there should I have to, say, do a complete reinstall, apt/synaptic/etc. wouldn't throw up?
[02:45] <mjr> Jordan_U, to rethink your needs
[02:45] <hateyla> Jawshie: no in Windows I dont have any third party programe.. well leave the windows. Is any way to change mac address in Edgy? well i want to just Update my edgy..
[02:45] <KurtKraut> kingcobra, you'll only find that as a Firefox extension
[02:46] <FirstStrike> is there anyway to get an external USB cd/dvd drive to be recognized as bootable? my bios sees it. i set it as the first bootable device..stick the ubuntu cd in the drive and..it still doesn't boot from the disk.
[02:46] <madmax> cliebow: 2.6.17-11 generic
[02:46] <n-iCe> Jordan_U ?
[02:46] <KurtKraut> _nnx_, no, just drop the .deb files in this directory and they'll be recognized
[02:46] <verma> hello people, how do I specify multiple include files in a pkgconfig file?
[02:46] <hateyla> Jawshie: nevamind.. its ok. Is There anyway to get Updates in this pc then i will transfer and install it to another one?
[02:46] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, Yes?
[02:46] <_nnx_> KurtKraut: Excellent.  Thank you VERY much.
[02:46] <roachclit> Does anyone know why I would have a problem with opening up TERMINAL and GAIM after I just updated my ubuntu?
[02:46] <cliebow_> madmax:so you have a stanza in menu.lst that controls booting of that kernel
[02:46] <Harkonnen> Hello everyone. I keep getting an X server error when I try to boot using the Ubuntu live CD of 6.06. I have a thread started on ubuntu forums with more information and pictures. If someone could help that would be awesome. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2384282#post2384282
[02:46] <ardchoille> Jordan_U: PartImage
[02:46] <cliebow_> scroll down til you find it
[02:46] <n-iCe> Jordan_U: yes well, the virtual one makes new connections and before i installed Fedora Core, it was shared and i didnt have to change anything, i just had internet nothin else..
[02:46] <dimas> why my webcam light doesnt go on when i plug it in the usb port?
[02:47] <Jawshie> hateyla: there is nothing from my "vast" knowledge of the Microsoft seed that allows you to spoof your mac address. You can not change your mac address because it is not possible. It is part of the NIC card and cannot be changed.
[02:47] <madmax> cliebow: i dont know what that is
[02:47] <verma> ah, forget it .. I figured
[02:47] <kingcobra> KurtKraut, there is only 1 firefox extension download manager and it doesnt do what i want
[02:47] <roachclit> Does anyone know why I would have a problem with opening up TERMINAL and GAIM after I just updated my ubuntu?
[02:47] <Crazytom> Jawshie, yes you can
[02:47] <hateyla> Jawshie: i can show ya .. Without Using Anything Thirdparty Software.. in Windows.
[02:47] <Jawshie> Crazytom: I'm curious now.
[02:47] <Crazytom> Jawshie, with linux anyway
[02:47] <cliebow_> madmax: and oneline ends with quiet slash...or the other way around
[02:47] <Jawshie> It shouldn't be possible.
[02:48] <kingcobra> KurtKraut, in windows there are tons of download managers like dap getright fdm gozilla
[02:48] <hateyla> Jawshie: it is possible :)
[02:48] <dimas>  guys i am trying to use "creative live! cam vista im" and when i try to test it with camorama it saids "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) please check connection"...what should i do?...i already check ubuntu forum
[02:48] <DGMurdockIII> what the command for sudo for editing the menu list
[02:48] <Jordan_U> Jawshie, It shouldn't, but it is.
[02:48] <Jawshie> bah
[02:48] <Jawshie> I'm curious now! lol
[02:48] <roachclit> Would someone help me with this update issue?  Gaim and Terminal will not open up now after I have downloaded the updates for ubuntu
[02:48] <ardchoille> DGMurdockIII: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:48] <Jordan_U> DGMurdockIII, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <Jawshie> I made myself look like a complete idiot... sorry :P
[02:49] <KurtKraut> kingcobra, linux has too... but I can't remember one that integrates straight over a browser.
[02:49] <kingcobra> KurtKraut, ok
[02:49] <n-iCe> Jordan_U:  how can i check in my device manager in the ubuntu one , what is unknown ?
[02:49] <kingcobra> thanks though
[02:49] <Harkonnen> Hello everyone. I keep getting an X server error when I try to boot using the Ubuntu live CD of 6.06. I have a thread started on ubuntu forums with more information and pictures. If someone could help that would be awesome(use my nickname so I can see your reply in this channel). http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2384282#post2384282
[02:49] <madmax> cliebow: what is a stanza
[02:49] <roachclit> Would someone help me with this update issue?  Gaim and Terminal will not open up now after I have downloaded the updates for ubuntu
[02:49] <kingcobra> does anybody know a good download manager that integrates well into firefox and gnome
[02:49] <Ireclan> Jawshie: Is there only one mouse diver in Linux?
[02:50] <DGMurdockIII> thanks ill try that
[02:50] <Jawshie> Ireclan: theres others but you shouldn't need them....
[02:50] <cliebow_> madmax:a section if you will of that file
[02:50] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, I don't understand the question?
[02:50] <madmax> cliebow: forgive me, I am not a programmer
[02:50] <Jawshie> Ireclan: did you try all those protocols
[02:50] <dimas>  guys i am trying to use "creative live! cam vista im" and when i try to test it with camorama it saids "could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) please check connection"...what should i do?...i already check ubuntu forum
[02:51] <Ireclan> Jawshie: Not yet. Just trying to be prepared.
[02:51] <cliebow_> madmax:lets fet out of this traffic.
[02:51] <madmax> cliebow: i dont know what i am supposed to fix
[02:51] <cliebow_> hang a sec
[02:51] <madmax> cliebow: ok
[02:52] <Jordan_U> n-iCe, If English is not your first language there are ubuntu channels for many languages
[02:52] <chasetoys> how can i instlal a JVM for eclipse to work (i have ubuntu 6.10)
[02:52] <madmax> cliebow: what next?
[02:52] <cliebow> ok
[02:52] <Jordan_U> !java | chasetoys
[02:52] <ubotu> chasetoys: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:52] <chasetoys> aren't backports a bad idea?
[02:53] <Jordan_U> chasetoys, No, why would they be?
[02:53] <chasetoys> and about how big is the sun-java6-jre ?  and the 5 version?
[02:53] <chasetoys> Jordan_U: i guess i'm not sure what a backport is...
[02:53] <chasetoys> i thought it was old software
[02:53] <tombow> how big?
[02:53] <Harkonnen> Hello everyone. I keep getting an X server error when I try to boot using the Ubuntu live CD of 6.06. I have a thread started on ubuntu forums with more information and pictures. If someone could help that would be awesome(use my nickname so I can see your reply in this channel). http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2384282#post2384282
[02:53] <roachclit> Would someone help me with this update issue?  Gaim and Terminal will not open up now after I have downloaded the updates for ubuntu
[02:54] <KurtKraut> roachclit, press ALT+F2 and them type: xterm
[02:54] <Jordan_U> chasetoys, No, it is a newer version of the software than what was available when Edgy was first released
[02:54] <KurtKraut> roachclit, inside of xterm type: gaim
[02:54] <cliebow> madmax: you have a line sort of like this in that file
[02:54] <KurtKraut> roachclit, and tell us what error messages will appear
[02:54] <cliebow> kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-386 root=UUID=11e672f5-799d-4e54-a95a-997bfe578afb ro quiet splash
[02:55] <chasetoys> Jordan_U: which version of java should i install?
[02:55] <chasetoys> 5 or 6?
[02:55] <madmax> cliebow: i did not see one in the file that is open
[02:55] <Jawshie> hateyla: sorry for making a complete ass of myself.
[02:55] <roachclit> okay Kurt, when I type alt+f2, it will allow me to type xterm, but nothing happens when I hit run
[02:56] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, You probably just need to install the proprietary ATI drivers for your card
[02:56] <roachclit> so I don't even get to the part where I type gaim
[02:56] <chasetoys> Jordan_U: suggestions :P?
[02:56] <KurtKraut> roachclit, what you did before was an upgrade or update ?
[02:56] <cliebow> madmax..see the quiet splash at the nd of the line
[02:56] <Jordan_U> chasetoys, No idea, whatever Eclipse suggests
[02:56] <roachclit> nothing, I just talked on gaim
[02:56] <Harkonnen> I just want to run the live cd...
[02:56] <roachclit> nothing, added no programs or anything like that
[02:57] <hot`loaded> hello guys
[02:57] <Jordan_U> roachclit, use alt+f2 to run xterm
[02:57] <hot`loaded> i ot some quick question whats beryl and xgl?
[02:57] <hot`loaded> :)
[02:57] <roachclit> trying that Jordan it isn't working
[02:57] <roachclit> so I just tried to re-add it
[02:57] <KurtKraut> Jordan_U, it seems that no more programs will run
[02:57] <roachclit> terminal
[02:57] <roachclit> and it still does nothing
[02:57] <bruenig> !beryl | hot`loaded
[02:57] <ubotu> hot`loaded: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:57] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, OK, does booting in safe graphics mode work?
[02:57] <Harkonnen> no
[02:58] <cliebow> madmax: ok lets use a big hammer
[02:58] <chasetoys> Jordan_U: ; Package sun-java5-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:58] <chasetoys> Jordan_U: any suggestions on what to type in
[02:58] <Jordan_U> chasetoys, Did you enable multiverse?
[02:58] <madmax> cliebow: i am sorry, i dont know where that is
[02:59] <KurtKraut> roachclit, are you running Edgy or Feisty ?
[02:59] <bruenig> chasetoys, to add all the extra official repositories and install sun-java5-jre, make sure synaptic, update-manager, or any other package managers are closed, open a terminal (applications>accessories>terminal) and copy and paste the following all at once:
[02:59] <bruenig> sudo sed -e 's/# deb/deb/g' -e 's/universe$/universe multiverse/g' -i.backup /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:59] <cliebow> wherever you see quiet splash in that file put a # in front of it so it looks like # quiet splash
[02:59] <roachclit> How do I know the difference?
[02:59] <roachclit> I just ran what the cd came with lol
[02:59] <chasetoys> Jordan_U: yes multiverse is enaled
[02:59] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, OK, do you mind going into the terminal to get it working?
[02:59] <madmax> cliebow: i have been all through the file that is open and i did not see that file you talked about
[02:59] <cliebow> madmax:tghen save the file
[02:59] <KurtKraut> roachclit, you've installed... you should know what version you did :D With a terminal we could check that, but it is unable to open.
[03:00] <chasetoys> bruenig: what did that line just do :P?
[03:00] <jason4067> how do i set the mysql password?
[03:00] <roachclit> I ordered the cd from the site, I just did the full install
[03:00] <KurtKraut> roachclit, is your hard disk reliable ? I had a similar behaviour when my hard drive was dying
[03:00] <Harkonnen> well its kinda hard to talk to you and run commands on the live cd on my one pc :P
[03:00] <madmax> cleibow: I have not changed anything
[03:00] <zach89909>  where do I get elf
[03:00] <roachclit> man I haven't had problems with it
[03:00] <bruenig> chasetoys, did it work?
[03:00] <roachclit> however, with LINUX I wouldn't know if I was having a problem even how to check it
[03:00] <cliebow> madmax:before you reboot..pastebot that file to pastebot.ltsp.org
[03:01] <KurtKraut> roachclit, backup any important file you have. It seems that will be hard to fix what is going on there.
[03:01] <Ireclan> Jawshie: How do I restart X?
[03:01] <Harkonnen> did you read the part in the forum thread about the conflict with my intel integrated?
[03:01] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, No, I'll look...
[03:01] <madmax> cliebow: ok, thanks for the help
[03:01] <Jawshie> Ireclan: CtrlAltBkspace
[03:01] <Harkonnen> more information in that thread to give you an idea
[03:01] <KurtKraut> roachclit, there is one approach we can try... that is reboot... but nothing may open then and things get worse or just fixed.
[03:01] <cliebow> sure
[03:01] <zach89909> !floppy
[03:01] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[03:02] <roachclit> let's do it
[03:02] <chasetoys> bruenig: yes!!!!!!!!
[03:02] <roachclit> I have another windows pc I can get iIRC with
[03:02] <bruenig> chasetoys, you didn't have multiverse enabled
[03:02] <roachclit> I'll reboot
[03:02] <cliebow> use gedit and copy/paste that file topastebot.ltsp.org
[03:02] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, My advice would be to enable the intel card, ATi's drivers are horrific.
[03:02] <zach89909> How do I get elf?
[03:02] <compilerwriter> I have screwed up a bit of courage to try to compile from source.  Now I need a bit of help.  Is there someone willing to spend a few minutes with me?
[03:03] <Harkonnen> yeah but then I have to switch back and forth all the time when i boot back into windows
[03:03] <chasetoys> bruenig: but i have it uncommented
[03:03] <shmeelAway> hi, i'm on a laptop but want to use a external monitor, but the only way i can get to the external is by restarting, the key fnf6 won't work. can anyone helP?
[03:03] <bruenig> chasetoys, just uncommenting all the repos in there doesn't enable multiverse, you have to actually add the word multiverse
[03:03] <chasetoys> bruenig: oh rly???
[03:04] <zach89909> !food
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about food - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <bruenig> !botsnack
[03:04] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:05] <zach89909> How do I execute an elf file?
[03:05] <sorush20> how do I fix my computer.. . grub is messing me about.. have changed the details in menu.list ot point to the right partition but still it dosen't remember the new settings and keeps giving me details about the old partition
[03:05] <mon^rch> !ubuntu
[03:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:05] <bruenig> zach89909, just type the path to it
[03:05] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, Easiest thing to do ( if you are not confortable with the terminal yet ) would be to temporarily enable your intel card, install the ATi drivers, then disable the intel card again.
[03:06] <Harkonnen> Jordan_U How can I install drivers on a Live CD?
[03:06] <Jordan_U> sorush20, Did you move the drive? Is that why you needed to change GRUB?
[03:06] <bruenig> compilerwriter, what is it
[03:06] <Harkonnen> Im not looking to install at this point in time
[03:07] <compilerwriter> bruenig:  I got the tarball for the most recent stable release of ktorrent.
[03:07] <bruenig> compilerwriter, and...
[03:07] <andyrak>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[03:07] <compilerwriter> bruenig:  I followed their instructions on ktorrent.org for compiling.
[03:07] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, Just like you install on a regular system ( any app you install will run from RAM, including new drivers ) if you have enough RAM.
[03:08] <compilerwriter> now configure is complaining about not being able to find my Xlibs
[03:08] <Harkonnen> got 512
[03:08] <andyrak> Can anybody help me with my LVM setup?
[03:08] <bruenig> compilerwriter, are you talking about 2.1.1 or 2.1.2
[03:08] <zach89909> bruenig: command not found when sudoed, When not sudoed, permission denied!
[03:08] <compilerwriter> 2.1.2
[03:08] <bruenig> zach89909, what are you talking about?
[03:08] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, Probably enough. Can't guarentee though
[03:09] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, Either way it can't hurt to try
[03:09] <bruenig> compilerwriter, ok do "sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent" and then start at ./configure and finish it out
[03:09] <Harkonnen> Seems alot of people have had this problem
[03:09] <Harkonnen> conflicts with integrated and standalone
[03:09] <zach89909> bruenig: open86.elf
[03:10] <bruenig> zach89909, where is it?
[03:10] <dimas> i did fallow the steps to install a webcam on ubuntu but i am having problems is there anybody able to help me?
[03:10] <compilerwriter> Thank you bruenig.
[03:10] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, Probably more likely a problem with the ATi drivers.
[03:10] <bruenig> zach89909, is it on the desktop or what?
[03:10] <compilerwriter> How does apt-get know about the depenedencies for ktorrent?
[03:10] <nikin> why there is no libmysqlclient.so in Ubuntu?
[03:11] <SeveredCross> MySQL isn't installed vy default.
[03:11] <zach89909> bruenig: /home/zach/Desktop/unix/open86.elf
[03:11] <Harkonnen> doesn't safe mode use the "vesa" drivers Jordan_U
[03:11] <bruenig> compilerwriter, because ktorrent is in the repos
[03:11] <Harkonnen> ?
[03:11] <SeveredCross> nikin: sudo apt-get install mysql5-client or something like that.
[03:11] <bruenig> zach89909, ok do file ~/Desktop/unix/open86.elf and paste the output
[03:11] <compilerwriter> Because an older version was there it knows the lib dependencies.
[03:11] <nikin> ServeredCro: i installed mysql-server-5.0 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-admin and mysql-query-browser
[03:12] <Jordan_U> Harkonnen, True, I have had those not work on my ATi card though, but with that in mind you are probably right that it is more likely a conflict with the other card.
[03:12] <compilerwriter> Why did I not have them installed before now.  Did I simply have the binary?
[03:12] <Journeyman> hey
[03:12] <zach89909> bruenig: To where?
[03:12] <bruenig> compilerwriter, it is building the dependencies that would be necessary to compile the version in the repo from source. As those are probably the same dependencies as the new one, it works out
[03:12] <Journeyman> what is good cd burning software?
[03:12] <bruenig> zach89909, just do that command
[03:12] <bruenig> zach89909, I want to make sure it is what I think it is
[03:13] <bruenig> zach89909, oh paste it here
[03:13] <[Hyarion] > has anyone had Ubuntu lock up on them? It does it to me several times a day and I'm forced to manually restart.
[03:13] <Jordan_U> Journeyman, I like the one that comes by default with Gnome.
[03:13] <Harkonnen> Jordan_U I was also having another problem other than the x server error. When trying to boot using the 6.10 or 7.04 live cd's my CPU fan will turn off.
[03:13] <Harkonnen> Still get x server error too :P
[03:14] <Journeyman> does it burn nrg and iso files
[03:14] <nikin> SeveredCross: i made a symlink from libmysqlclient.so.15 , and it seems to work, but anytime i try to pass a query from Lazarus to mysql... it returns SQL syntax error
[03:14] <zach89909> Bruenig: What did that do?
[03:14] <horohe> hi people exist one channel of ubuntu in spanish
[03:14] <nick_> i recently installed kubuntu desktop over my ubuntu is there anyway I can remove all fo the package that came with ubuntu
[03:14] <Jordan_U> Journeyman, Yup, just right click the file and choose burn to disk
[03:14] <compilerwriter> bruenig:  Do I now, most likely, have most of the libs to compile most things?
[03:14] <bruenig> zach89909, just paste the output,
[03:14] <bimberi> !es | horohe
[03:14] <ubotu> horohe: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:15] <bruenig> compilerwriter, yes, ./configure will tell you if you don't
[03:15] <Drac|BComp> crdlb: Howdy. I'm back. Sorry 'bout my absence. So yeah, x11 works. Nothing else. Switched to NV driver. That worked. Reinstalled nvidia drivers. That didn't fix it.
[03:15] <SeveredCross> nikin: It might be a syntax error then.
[03:15] <SeveredCross> If it couldn't find the lib, it would have another error.
[03:15] <compilerwriter> God bless bruenig.
[03:15] <zach89909> bruenig paste is geryed out and to where
[03:15] <compilerwriter> Thank you.
[03:15] <nikin> SeveredCross: "show databases;" cant be syntax error
[03:15] <SeveredCross> Might even segfault if the error checking is bad.
[03:15] <SeveredCross> Hmm.
[03:15] <bruenig> zach89909, to here
[03:16] <Jordan_U> Drac|BComp, How did you install the Nvidia drivers in the first place?
[03:16] <SeveredCross> I still don't think it would be a syntax error if there was something bad about the lib.
[03:16] <bruenig> zach89909, what irc client are you using?
[03:16] <crdlb> Drac|BComp, maybe you could use the nvidia driver with the gl output
[03:16] <nikin> SeveredCross: its just some kind of last hope :( i have to do it til 8 am .... :(:(:( nad i had no other idea why it should not work
[03:17] <zach89909> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped
[03:17] <harry_> is there a website I can go to that tells me my ip adress
[03:17] <Jawshie> www.whatismyip.com
[03:18] <zach89909> bruenig:       ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped
[03:18] <Jordan_U> harry_, http://whatsmyip.org/
[03:18] <kitche> harry_: if you wanted you can make a shell script to query that website whenever you want
[03:18] <bruenig> zach89909, ok, then do "chmod +x ~/Desktop/unix/open86.elf && ~/Desktop/unix/open86.elf"
[03:18] <briank> I recently learned that using vi to read log files is a bad idea, because vi locks the file. I also like using less to read files, does this also lock files, or is this safe to use?
[03:19] <Harkonnen> Jordan_U thanks for trying to help. Guess ubuntu just isn't for me. Not gonna keep dealing with all this crap.
[03:19] <cliebow> tail -f
[03:19] <Journeyman> I don't think less does
[03:19] <bruenig> harry_, or from the terminal ifconfig | sed 's/addr://' | awk '/Bcast/ {print $2}'
[03:19] <Zewey> what's a good C/C++ IDE in ubuntu, other than anjuta or eclipse cdt?
[03:19] <Journeyman> I am pretty sure less puts it all in cache, its like cat with pages
[03:19] <briank> ok great
[03:20] <aild> how can I unmount a cdrom? lol
[03:20] <briank> I like that less has some similar commands as vi
[03:20] <aild> by comand line
[03:20] <bruenig> aild, sudo umount /dev/whatever
[03:20] <sorush20> I installed windows on a new hard and changed the old hdd to the secondary.. which ment that my root had changed from hd0,0 to hd1,0 so I changed these details in the menulits of grub but I still get error that the kernal panic and unknown block (0,0) unable to load root fs
[03:21] <zach89909> bruenig: here's the output     6.elf
[03:21] <zach89909> Nothing to do
[03:21] <zach89909> Args supported are: ?L_com:"comfile.com" --it will load a com file
[03:21] <zach89909> ?L_bin:"binfile.bin" --it will load a bin file, the default "tester" file is in bin format
[03:21] <zach89909> ?log:"logfile.txt"   --it will use this as the log file
[03:21] <aild> bruenig, it says >> device is busy
[03:21] <aild> :S
[03:21] <bruenig> zach89909, ok it needs parameters, is there some sort of README or howto or what
[03:21] <compilerwriter> Well, bruenig, it would seem that make is spewing forth its stuff.  I guess we shall see how it does eventually.
[03:21] <Jordan_U> sorush20, You don't need to edit it by hand, just chroot in and run "update-grub"
[03:21] <zach89909> bruenig what do you mean?
[03:21] <DGMurdockIII> what is the command you need to run after instsling the vieos driver for nividia
[03:22] <DGMurdockIII> video card
[03:22] <mikedoty> Anyone have a clock problem with ubuntu today?  Mine's an hour fast right now
[03:22] <zach89909> bruenig: what do you mean?
[03:22] <bruenig> zach89909, it needs something to run, it is akin to doing "apt-get" apt-get doesnt do anything without apt-get install or apt-get remove
[03:22] <Drac|BComp> crdlb: My goal is to use vlc for this. Lemme try tweaking vlc to use that.
[03:22] <SeveredCross> zach89909, what are you trying to use that program for?
[03:22] <bruenig> zach89909, look at the documentation for this particular program and learn how to use it
[03:22] <Jordan_U> mikedoty, Do you have the correct time zone entered?
[03:23] <zach89909> SeveredCross: open86.elf
[03:24] <bruenig> zach89909, read the documentation
[03:24] <Jordan_U> DGMurdockIII, sudo nvidia-xconfig if you are on Edgy
[03:24] <craigbass1976> mikedoty, remember that daylight savings was messed up this year?
[03:24] <SeveredCross> zach89909: That tells me nothing about what it is...What is it?
[03:24] <mikedoty> I've never changed my time zone, it's always been right (even auto updated properly at the early time change)
[03:24] <SeveredCross> What's it do?
[03:24] <mikedoty> Yeah, just checked, it's on the right time zone
[03:25] <zach89909> SeveredCross: x86 emulator
[03:25] <Drac|BComp> crdlb: Hey! I can set vlc to use X11! Score one. :D
[03:25] <atiredmachine> Hello, I'm running 64-bit Feisty Fawn and I'm trying to install energyXT2, but I really don't know how.  Double clicking on the binary doesn't do anything.
[03:25] <SeveredCross> Oh.
[03:25] <compilerwriter> bruenig make is still spewing forth.  How long before I should get concerned?  There weren't that many files in the tarball to deal with.
[03:25] <DGMurdockIII> ok
[03:25] <bruenig> atiredmachine, #ubuntu+1 for feisty
[03:25] <atiredmachine> thanks!
[03:26] <compilerwriter> At least I don't have messages about "Core Dumped" yet.
[03:26] <bruenig> compilerwriter, if ./configure didn't error, then there will be no problems. make shouldn't ever concern you unless it fails
[03:26] <Jawshie> Oh! Heres a question! I know there can be problems using 32 bit programs on 64 bit windows... is it the same problem with linux?
[03:26] <bruenig> !chroot | Jawshie
[03:26] <ubotu> Jawshie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:26] <str4`> sup
[03:26] <HymnToLife> Jawshie, no, there is no problem
[03:27] <HymnToLife> they just down't work :)
[03:27] <DGMurdockIII> even if i ued automatrix to install the driver
[03:27] <bruenig> !automatix | DGMurdockIII
[03:27] <ubotu> DGMurdockIII: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:27] <Jawshie> Ty bruenig
[03:27] <jrib> Jawshie: the only issues you might have is with closed source stuff really
[03:28] <HymnToLife> did they ?
[03:28] <alexnb185> hey guys im back
[03:28] <harry_> what would you guys say would be the minimum requirements for a computer to be used mainly for running Openoffice on Xubuntu?
[03:28] <str4`> ok
[03:28] <Pelo> HymnToLife,  what day is it today ?
[03:28] <Jawshie> What about with the repositories? Will they be the same and they will be mostly compatable or what? Apt-get is god but will it mess me up? I badly want to use 64 bit ubuntu
[03:29] <alexnb185> is anyone in here form before who aas helping me
[03:29] <Pelo> harry_,  have you considered gnome-office ?
[03:29] <sorush20> Jordan_U: how do I chroot
[03:29] <HymnToLife> hmm, Pelo has a point here :p
[03:29] <Drac|BComp> How can I find out how much memory my video card has? The lspci dump only gives the generic chipset ID thing.
[03:29] <Wiseguy> Pelo, what kind of deal? do you have a link?
[03:29] <compilerwriter> alexnb185: what were they helping you with?  If they are not here Bruenig will surely be able to help you.
[03:29] <Journeyman> harry_, I ran it on a P3-750Mhz 128MB ram and it ran fine
[03:29] <harry_> well, I like openoffice. it's nice.
[03:29] <alexnb185> macd you in here?
[03:30] <bruenig> compilerwriter, you should calm down a bit
[03:30] <HymnToLife> Drac|BComp, what kind of card is it ?
[03:30] <compilerwriter> if it is really simple I might be able to aid.
[03:30] <sorush20> !chro
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about chro - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <sorush20> !chroot
[03:30] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[03:30] <Drac|BComp> HymnToLife: nVidia Ti 4200
[03:30] <HymnToLife> nvidias have a tool to find that but I don't know about others
[03:30] <alexnb185> hey can anyone help me with my ubuntu install?
[03:30] <Pelo> Wiseguy,  Canonical has agreed to let MS sue all ubuntu users ...
[03:30] <Drac|BComp> HymnToLife: GeForce, that is.
[03:30] <Drac|BComp> HymnToLife: GeForce4*
[03:30] <Journeyman> alexnb185, just ask
[03:30] <alexnb185> ok
[03:30] <Wiseguy> Pelo, huh?
[03:31] <Pelo> Wiseguy,  what day is it ?
[03:31] <HymnToLife> Drac|BComp, it's there in the Nvidia control panel
[03:31] <Drac|BComp> HymnToLife: Oh. Right. Forgot about that. :P
[03:31] <Wiseguy> bah :P
[03:31] <compilerwriter> Well make did fine.  Now lets see if make install worked.
[03:31] <Drac|BComp> Ooh! Goodie. It's 128MB
[03:31] <alexnb185> well I am installign ubuntu and want to run xp and it on my computer(choose when I boot which one i want) but I am having trouble and don't want to mess up my computer... I have xp installed and wanted to know how I should partition my HDD space using the ubuntu install form the live disk
[03:31] <naknomik> I'm trying to create a new RAID1 array and I get /dev/md0 device not fiound err, what's wrong?
[03:31] <Drac|BComp> Kickass. ^.^
[03:31] <striker1> Hi all
[03:32] <compilerwriter> It seems to have.
[03:32] <Pelo> harry_,  I beleive that openoffice has it's own system requirements on their site,  should not vary with the os or the distro
[03:32] <Journeyman> alexnb185, how big is your harddrive?
[03:32] <striker1> Is there a program like Premiere pro for Linux?
[03:32] <foobah> anyone know prolog?
[03:32] <alexnb185> i want to say 120g maybe 160g
[03:32] <prateekg> Where can I find IRC logs of #ubuntu ?
[03:32] <bruenig> cinellera or something like that
[03:32] <HymnToLife> striker1, Cinelerra
[03:32] <GaiaX11> Pelo: Which is the link about canonical and MS?
[03:32] <HymnToLife> or at least it tries to be :p
[03:33] <compilerwriter> striker1 What is premiere pro?
[03:33] <Pelo> striker1, http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[03:33] <striker1> Thanks I will check it out
[03:33] <Journeyman> alexnb185, well do you plan on putting a lot of stuff on your ubuntu parition?
[03:33] <Pelo> GaiaX11,  there isn'T one , I was saying it would have been a good prank
[03:33] <HymnToLife> !logs
[03:33] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:33] <striker1> Premier is a movie making program
[03:33] <alexnb185> uh well not more than my xp but 30g or so
[03:33] <Journeyman> k
[03:33] <Journeyman> that should be fine
[03:34] <harry_> Pelo, If you're running xfce rather than gnome, won't that be less work for it to do on the side?
[03:34] <Journeyman> you will want about a gig for /swap
[03:34] <Journeyman> and the rest can be /
[03:34] <Pelo> harry_,  that means that you'll have less resources used by your os so more for the apps
[03:34] <alexnb185> well how do I go about doing this ( i am runnign my other comp off the cd right now and double clicked the desktop icon install and am at step 5 which is this)
[03:35] <prateekg> !logs
[03:35] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[03:35] <gmn> what is a good mp3 player for ubuntu?
[03:35] <prateekg> thanks ubotu
[03:35] <squee_> gmn xmms
[03:35] <gmn> is it like winamp?
[03:35] <hateyla> gmn yes
[03:35] <gmn> sounds good
[03:35] <gmn> thanks
[03:36] <tonyrome> can anybody help me pull up the nvida controll panel .... i dont know how to do .. and i wana set up both of my monitors
[03:36] <kitche> gmn: audaicous is good also since xmms is so old
[03:36] <Pelo> harry_,  http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_20.html
[03:36] <squee_> gmn: or listen, i use that
[03:36] <alexnb185> journyman? did you see my last im
[03:36] <gmn> ok..poll...Audaicous or XMMS
[03:36] <harry_> ok, thanks.
[03:36] <Journeyman> when I do ls -s it shows directories as 4kb how can I display the full size, including everything inside
[03:36] <Pelo> tonyrome,  have you tried typing  nvidia in the terminal ?
[03:36] <binfalse> you tell me ;)
[03:37] <HymnToLife> tonyrome, nvidia-settings
[03:37] <tonyrome> ya
[03:37] <HymnToLife> in a terminal
[03:37] <tonyrome> ahh
[03:37] <tonyrome> -settings
[03:37] <Pelo> Journeyman,  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[03:37] <tonyrome> thank you very much
[03:38] <mon^rch> what's the dpkg reconfigure command? I want to reinstall an app....
[03:38] <alexnb185> journyman i still need your help please
[03:38] <Pelo> dpgk-reconfigure
[03:38] <thepumpkin1979> Amazing.... http://www.google.com/tisp
[03:38] <gmn> hahah.  check this out...   http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page
[03:38] <thepumpkin1979> Take a look!
[03:38] <compilerwriter> Bruenig:  I have a ktorrent created today in my /usr/bin/  So have I clobbered the older version with the new one?
[03:39] <alexnb185> CAN ANY ONE HELP ME WITH PARTITIONING?
[03:39] <ferret_0568> Is JMicron chips supported in Edgy and above?
[03:39] <craigbass1976> WHen I mount up an nfs share, there's quite a pause. How come?
[03:39] <alexnb185> i need some help
[03:39] <bruenig> compilerwriter, probably, you should have uninstalled that first
[03:39] <bruenig> !caps | alexnb185
[03:39] <ubotu> alexnb185: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:39] <alexnb185> ok sorry
[03:39] <Pelo> alexnb185,  what's the problem ?
[03:39] <ferret_0568> !jmicron
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jmicron - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <craigbass1976> alexnb185, you still trying to install?
[03:39] <compilerwriter> !attitude |alexb185
[03:39] <cry0> Hey, I need some help with my distro.  Anybody know how to open 7z files in hoary?
[03:39] <ubotu> alexb185: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:39] <ferret_0568> !sata
[03:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:39] <Journeyman> Pelo, that doesn't answer my question
[03:39] <compilerwriter> I had a copy of it running actually.
[03:40] <Pelo> Journeyman,  the ls command is explained on that guide,  with what you can do with it
[03:40] <alexnb185> ok I am in mid install ong ubuntu on my other computer and i want to run xp(already installed) and ubuntu on the same  comnputer (you choose which one u nwat at start-u p)
[03:40] <ferret_0568> Does anybody know? JMicron is on the Intel Core 2 Duo compatible boards not based on the NVIDIA chipset
[03:40] <Journeyman> Pelo, it gives the very basic of ls and the man page
[03:40] <alexnb185> and I don't know how i should partition my HDD space suing the install icon in the live cd install
[03:40] <Journeyman> Pelo, posting general information websites don't really help that much
[03:41] <compilerwriter> Don't blame you ferret_0568
[03:41] <Pelo> alexnb185,   first you need to defrag your hdd in windows and backup your data
[03:41] <naknomik_> I'm trying to create a software RAID but mdadm fails with error '/dev/md0' no such file or directory.... I'm using following command mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sda1
[03:41] <razzorz> hey folks...
[03:41] <alexnb185> i did that
[03:41] <Pelo> alexnb185,  ok  step back to the ubuntu live cd desktop
[03:41] <otakumark> I have a question, is there a program that allows me to rick click tar.bz2 files and select to install them??
[03:41] <alexnb185> ok
[03:41] <craigbass1976> alexnb185, well, I haven't run Widnows for quite a while, but you may just want to make a 15-20 gig partition of free space and put Ubuntu there, without writing grub to the MBR
[03:42] <Pelo> otakumark,  no , you have to do it manualy    http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:42] <alexnb185> d you know hwo to do that
[03:42] <razzorz> trying to install GStreamer, and i get this error... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check,, anyone have a clue?
[03:42] <Pelo> alexnb185,  are you miss install ?  use the back button
[03:42] <Pelo> brb
[03:42] <ferret_0568> JMicron says: http://www.jmicron.com/PDF/OSSupport/OS_Support.pdf
[03:42] <alexnb185> no lol i was talkign to the other guy
[03:42] <ferret_0568> I'd guess so
[03:42] <chasetoys> oh noes:
[03:43] <chasetoys> 74% [4 sun-java5-bin 22134784/22.3MB 99%]                                                  24.4kB/s 5m14sQuit (core dumped)
[03:43] <chasetoys> what am i supposed to do?
[03:43] <craigbass1976> alexnb185, manually partition when asked I think.  The only dual boots I set up were using Knoppix to prepare everything.  I used qtparted, which may be simiilar to gparted
[03:43] <Pelo> alexnb185,  please use the nick of the person you are talking to , so we can keep track , let me know when you are ready for the next step
[03:43] <cry0> I dont mean to be rude an double-post, but does anybody know a program that opens 7z files?  I am running Hoary so p7zip wont work...
[03:43] <alexnb185> i am ready
[03:43] <alexnb185> he was jsut saying something
[03:44] <razzorz> trying to install GStreamer, and i get this error... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check,, anyone have a clue?
[03:44] <Journeyman> Pelo, just so you know I found my answer du -sh file/
[03:44] <Pelo> cry0,   use synaptic  and search for archive you'll find a package for it
[03:44] <Pelo> alexnb185,  menu > system > admin > gnome partition manager
[03:44] <bimberi> chasetoys: was that an apt-get?  try re-running it.
[03:44] <Pelo> Journeyman,  good for you
[03:45] <chasetoys> bimberi: i'm worried it will core dump again
[03:45] <alexnb185> ok im there
[03:45] <KurtKraut> cry0, Hoary is quite old... you should do a clean install of Edgy when you'll be able to do that.
[03:45] <Pelo> alexnb185,  select the partition in the window , and in the menu > partiton > resize
[03:45] <bimberi> chasetoys: but it might not
[03:46] <chasetoys> hehe
[03:46] <bimberi> :)
[03:46] <KurtKraut> cry0, install the following packages: p7zip xarchiver
[03:46] <bimberi> chasetoys: it should resume downloading from where it left off
[03:46] <alexnb185> ok i did that now what
[03:46] <chasetoys> bimberi: oh but its not
[03:46] <chasetoys> ;(  another hour
[03:46] <razzorz> boy,,, great responce
[03:46] <Pelo> alexnb185,  did you specify the new size for your window partition ?
[03:47] <razzorz> trying to install GStreamer, and i get this error... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check,,........
[03:47] <bimberi> chasetoys: :(  (i was defensive using "should" because I don't know whether the core dump means it won't)
[03:47] <cry0> Sorry, I ordered a newer version, but I am still waiting on it.  I had this distro for a while.  It wont let me install p7zip, it needs libc6 2.3.6
[03:47] <alexnb185> well how do I do that...? it says there arbrbr pelo
[03:48] <alexnb185> brb pelo***
[03:48] <Pelo> what ?
[03:48] <chasetoys> bimberi: core dumps scare me...... reminds of college days
[03:49] <bimberi> chasetoys: alternatively, get a URL via packages.ubuntu.com and download using 'wget -c <url>'
[03:49] <razzorz> hey well thanks for the help... i will try that...
[03:49] <chasetoys> bimberi: well ive already downloaded ecipse form their site.. but notw its a matter of dloading jVM
[03:49] <Sherlockian> easy one....what command do i use to shutdown an Xserver from the a shell?
[03:50] <Sherlockian> i know ctrl-alt-backspace works....but what command can i use
[03:50] <Pelo> ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:50] <KurtKraut> Sherlockian, just pull its carpet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:50] <kitche> Sherlockian: kill -9 Xserver maybe?
[03:50] <ferret_0568> Good news: some mobos have their JMicron chip listed
[03:50] <NickGarvey> yeah, I'd do what KurtKraut said
[03:50] <cry0> I couldnt find xarchiver
[03:50] <lucifiel> Pelo: wow, good to see you here. =)
[03:50] <Journeyman> Sherlockian, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:50] <ferret_0568> What would be a good motherboard manufacturer?
[03:50] <Sherlockian> im running fluxbox, and no gdm
[03:50] <bimberi> chasetoys: you can install eclipse via the package manager (unless there is a later version you want)
[03:51] <NickGarvey> Sherlockian: then /etc/inti.d/xdm stop
[03:51] <Pelo> Lucifel,  damn you saw me ,  and I thought I was so well hidden
[03:51] <Journeyman> Sherlockian, kill the process for xserver
[03:51] <DGMurdockIII> i ddid the command to get the video card set up
[03:51] <Journeyman> killall xorg
[03:51] <Journeyman> or somthing
[03:51] <chasetoys> bimberi: well i tped: sudo apt-get install eclispe-sdk .... and i was left without a JVM
[03:51] <enajeirak> is there anyone here that wants to help a linux retarded person go from ubuntu to xubunto off an edgy select DVD???
[03:51] <DGMurdockIII> but it still wont let me change the scren res
[03:51] <Journeyman> Sherlockian, you use startx ?
[03:51] <KurtKraut> cry0, Hoary is so old that xarchiver is not availuable for that.
[03:51] <Sherlockian> thx guyz, yea i do
[03:51] <gmn> what are some must have apps for linux.  I have recently switched from windows to linux and wanted some recommendations.
[03:51] <razzorz> trying to install GStreamer, and i get this error... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check,,........
[03:51] <razzorz> trying to install GStreamer, and i get this error... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check,,........
[03:51] <Sherlockian> i had to kill Xorg processs
[03:51] <Sherlockian> that did it
[03:51] <Pelo> enajeirak,  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <Sherlockian> thx journet
[03:52] <bimberi> chasetoys: yes it probably only brings in the jre as a dependency
[03:52] <enajeirak> Pelo...i have the dvd..isnt that all i need
[03:52] <alexnb185> ok pelo i see threee drop down menus
[03:52] <DGMurdockIII> i have a nividia
[03:52] <alexnb185> which one do you wnat me to use
[03:52] <KurtKraut> gmn, there is a great site where you say the Windows app you are used to use and it will tell you the linux equivalent, but I cant remember the name... but there are many sites or lists for that.
[03:52] <DGMurdockIII> video card
[03:52] <Pelo> alexnb185,  rightclick on the partition listed in the windows and select  move/resize
[03:52] <gmn> oh, that sounds great
[03:53] <alexnb185> yes i did
[03:53] <gmn> does anyone know this site?
[03:53] <Pelo> alexnb185,  now select a new size for your windows partition
[03:53] <DGMurdockIII> http://www.osalt.com/
[03:53] <cry0> Whats the average wait for a distro to mail?
[03:53] <DGMurdockIII> is that the site
[03:53] <KurtKraut> osalt ! That's it !
[03:53] <macd> KurtKraut, linuxeq.com
[03:53] <enajeirak> if you google linuz equivalents it will bring lots up
[03:53] <gmn> thanks
[03:53] <razzorz> wow you guys ROCK.. hey thanks For the acknowledgement..... i see how it is
[03:53] <KurtKraut> gmn, osalt.com, linuxeq.com and many more
[03:53] <alexnb185> wait... so what i am entering now is goin to split the old partition (windows) and make a new one for whatever amount i put in??
[03:54] <KurtKraut> macd, thanks for the good memory :P
[03:54] <macd> ;)
[03:54] <lucifiel> Pelo: oh come on lol... you're giving advice to so many people, how is this considered hiding? :P
[03:54] <NickGarvey> razzorz: sarcasm is a good way to get help
[03:54] <Pelo> razzorz,  did you notice the traffic in this channel ????
[03:54] <razzorz> Well ya been asking a simple QUESTION for 20 mins and your the first responce.. so i guess it worked righ
[03:54] <Pelo> Lucifel,  I'm in disguise as a helpfull person
[03:54] <razzorz> right***
[03:54] <DGMurdockIII> i ddid the command to get the video card set up
[03:54] <DGMurdockIII> but it still wont let me change the scren res
[03:54] <Journeyman> razzorz, whats up man? whats the problem
[03:54] <alexnb185> pelo did you see my last im?
[03:54] <DGMurdockIII> i have a nividia
[03:55] <razzorz> trying to install GStreamer, and i get this error... configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check,,........
[03:55] <Pelo> razzorz,  you can look up error msg in the forum, it usualy brings up a fix or a howto
[03:55] <razzorz> thats my issue
[03:55] <DGMurdockIII> video card
[03:55] <razzorz> hey thanks Pelo
[03:55] <DGMurdockIII> do i have to restart after i do the commandty
[03:55] <enajeirak> anyone...anyone that would be willing to chat with me about installing xubuntu I would be incredibly in debt to.
[03:55] <Pelo> alexnb185,  more or less,  what you do is specify the new size for the partition you alrady have, then we will use the unassigned space to install ubuntu on
[03:56] <ferret_0568> Is a ASUS P5B motherboard really good?
[03:56] <alexnb185> ohhh ok thanks.. ill go do that then brb
[03:56] <Pelo> razzorz,   try installing gstreamer from synaptic,  and not by compiling it yourself
[03:56] <macd> razzorz, make sure you have build-essential , xorg-dev , kde-devel installed.
[03:56] <jexdawg13> i have the latest version of firefox. i have mplayer and mplayer-mozilla (or mozilla-mplayer, can't remember) installed, and totem-mozilla uninstalled (all via synaptic). in firefox about:plugins though, it still says its using "Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.16.2" to handle most of my multimedia. what else do i need to do to make firefox forget totem and recognize mplayer? please help, its really bugging me
[03:56] <Pelo> alexnb185,  might take a while
[03:56] <Journeyman> razzorz, reinstall cpp
[03:57] <compilerwriter> enajeirak what do you need to know?
[03:57] <Sherlockian> is it possible to run startx from ssh?? with Xforwarding enable --??
[03:57] <DGMurdockIII> any help
[03:57] <compilerwriter> I don't believe sho sherlockian
[03:57] <Pelo> enajeirak, didn't I answer that question a minute ago ?
[03:57] <DarkED> how do i find out which version of ubuntu is running on a particular system?
[03:57] <Sherlockian> ok, i get this error xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/rx/.Xauthority
[03:57] <Sherlockian> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[03:57] <Sherlockian> xinit:  Server error.
[03:57] <KurtKraut> DarkED, cat /etc/issue
[03:57] <DarkED> KurtKraut, thanks
[03:57] <SeveredCross> Sherlockian: sudo?
[03:57] <Sherlockian> cat /proc/isue
[03:57] <jexdawg13> darked system --> about ubuntu
[03:57] <enajeirak> I currently use ubuntu and would like to switch to xubuntu and i have the dvd..and I click on the icon on the desktop and it does nothing.
[03:57] <Sherlockian> cat /proc/issue
[03:58] <Pelo> DarkED,   menu > system > about ubuntu
[03:58] <enajeirak> pelo...sorry i wasnt specific enough
[03:58] <SeveredCross> enajeirak: You can just do sudo apt-get install xubuntu_desktop
[03:58] <SeveredCross> That should install all the Xubuntu packages..
[03:58] <DarkED> im not in gnome so it wouldnt work :) i use e17
[03:58] <Pelo> enajeirak,  boot up your regular ubuntu install and type  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:58] <enajeirak> sorry I am stupic what is sudo apt-get..you mean in the filer roller
[03:58] <KurtKraut> karakara, your nickname means 'face to face' in portuguese.. quite funny
[03:58] <Sherlockian> severedcross - yea it works
[03:58] <enajeirak> on sorry..i get it
[03:58] <suterfugio> #codigolibre
[03:58] <DGMurdockIII> i need help installing my video driver i gess them
[03:58] <compilerwriter> terminal enajeirak
[03:58] <DarkED> ahh nice, edgy :)
[03:59] <DarkED> well thanks everybody
[03:59] <Pelo> enajeirak,  you type that command in the terminal and it will install xubuntu
[03:59] <Pelo> DGMurdockIII,  what is your video card ?
[03:59] <jexdawg13> how do i force firefox to recognize mplayer instead of totem? besides uninstallting totem-mozilla (i already did that)
[03:59] <DGMurdockIII> nividia
[03:59] <enajeirak> Thank you...i  have been without a computer for about a year while i worked in yellowstone and i have become stupid!!
[03:59] <Pelo> !nvidia | DGMurdockIII
[03:59] <ubotu> DGMurdockIII: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:59] <Sherlockian> SeveredCross: how would i add my normal user 'rx' so he would have rights to startx from ssh???
[04:00] <Sherlockian> SeveredCross:sudo startx worked from ssh
[04:00] <SeveredCross> Uh, I don't know that you can to be totally honest.
[04:00] <KurtKraut> jexdawg13, lets pretend that it is Windows: remove both totem-mozilla and mozilla-mplayer with PURGE and then just install mozila-mplayer... check if that works
[04:00] <Sherlockian> ok thx u
[04:00] <SeveredCross> I think starting x requires superuser privileges.
[04:00] <jexdawg13> kurtkraut, i'll give it a go
[04:00] <kitche> SeveredCross: well X runs as root really
[04:00] <kitche> SeveredCross: it uses a setuid
[04:00] <shwag> what is the name of the package that does the auto mounting of usb drives ?
[04:00] <SeveredCross> Yep.
[04:01] <Shai> HI all
[04:01] <Pelo> shwag,  it should do that automaticaly out of the box
[04:01] <shwag> Pelo: i know, but i need to file a bug.
[04:01] <Shai> does someone play Ragnarok online under linux please ? :)
[04:01] <Pelo> shwag,  udev I think
[04:01] <Sherlockian> so kitche, would u knw why ssh will not let me startx as my normal user, and only starts with sudo startx?
[04:01] <shwag> Pelo: I thought it was HAL maybe
[04:02] <Pelo> shwag,  possibly
[04:02] <kitche> Sherlockian: it should
[04:02] <compilerwriter> I log in as myself via ssh and fire off xcommands from the terminal they get forwareded as individual windows on the machine I am using.
[04:02] <KurtKraut> Or you can tunnel VNC over SSH, I think this is more simple.
[04:02] <sorush20> I'm still getting kernel panic and unable to load
[04:02] <Sherlockian> kitche: i get this error....
[04:02] <Sherlockian> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[04:02] <Sherlockian> xinit:  Server error.
[04:02] <Sherlockian> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/rx/.Xauthority
[04:02] <Sherlockian> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[04:03] <sorush20> Jordan_U: ch root is notworking
[04:03] <sorush20> eithre
[04:03] <kitche> Sherlockian: do this sudo xhost +
[04:03] <cry0> Ok, I know I was just in here, but I accidentally deleted the bar at the top of my screen... how do I get that back?
[04:03] <kitche> Sherlockian: then try and run an X program and the program should show up on your screen
[04:03] <compilerwriter> Sherlockian: are you doing this over the net, or are you running x forwarding over a network.
[04:03] <Jordan_U> sorush20, Do you know how to do a chroot?
[04:03] <Sherlockian> xforwarding over local network
[04:03] <KurtKraut> cry0, click over the remaining bar and there will be an option like 'add a panel'
[04:04] <Pelo> cry0,  do you still have the bar at the bottom ?  rightclick on it and add a new pannel,  then move it to the top, right click on that , add to the pannel, you'll get a list of applet you can put on it
[04:04] <youkilldkennedy> Hi, can anyone help me set up TV-OUT through the S-Video port? I'm using a nvidia mobile card.
[04:04] <cry0> ok, thanks.  I was freaking out for a second,
[04:04] <cry0> I'm a little bit of a newb
[04:04] <compilerwriter> Are you on a M$ machine or another linux machine?
[04:04] <sorush20> I did Jordan_U just the chroot /directory that your system is mounted on
[04:04] <KurtKraut> cry0, no problem... it is just a matter of experience... I did the same mistake and I took a long time to find out how to fix it :P
[04:05] <Pelo> compilerwriter,  use the nick of the person you are talking to in your line
[04:05] <sorush20> update-grub Jordan_U was assuming /dev/hda
[04:05] <jexdawg13> bah! i purged totem-mozilla and mozilla-mplayer then reinstalled mozilla-mplayer and swiftfox STILL recognizes totem instead of mplayer. whyyyyy?
[04:05] <compilerwriter> Sorry pelo forgto to add that last time.
[04:05] <Sherlockian> kitche: i get this error when i run your command whilte using an xterm, with Xserver running
[04:05] <KurtKraut> jexdawg13, bad swiftfox... hmmm... do the following: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mozilla-mplayer
[04:05] <compilerwriter> Sherlockian are you doing it on an M$ machine, or another *nix box?
[04:05] <Sherlockian> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[04:05] <Jordan_U> sorush20, Ahh, forgot to tell you you need to mount -t /dev /yoursystem/dev and mount -t /proc /dev/yoursystem/proc before you chroot
[04:05] <kitche> Sherlockian: ok that's good
[04:05] <KurtKraut> jexdawg13, close swiftfox before that and open after that
[04:05] <Sherlockian> Mac box, with ssh
[04:06] <jexdawg13> ok
[04:06] <Jordan_U> sorush20, I mean mount -o bind
[04:06] <alexnb185> ok
[04:06] <alexnb185> pelo i put 16g of free space
[04:06] <alexnb185> now what should I do
[04:06] <GreshP> Hi guys ... I was using apt-get to upgarde and it told me of lots of packages that I should run "autoremove" to remove them ... seems dangerous, should I do it?
[04:06] <Pelo> alexnb185, ok, now,  in the partition editor,   menu > edit > apply
[04:07] <KurtKraut> GreshP, probably not
[04:07] <jimbo0> anyone know how you change boot from kdm to gdm?
[04:07] <Jordan_U> GreshP, You don't need to, they are just programs that were automatically installed but may not be needed
[04:07] <jexdawg13> kurtkraut - no luck. still recognizes totem instead of mplayer
[04:07] <compilerwriter> GreshP: Did it say something about they were automatically installed but are no longer needed?
[04:07] <GreshP> Ok, cool, I'll leave it be ... everythings working!!
[04:07] <Jordan_U> jimbo0, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:08] <youkilldkennedy> Anyone know how to set up TV-OUT with a NVidia card?
[04:08] <alexnb185> ok pelo i have 2 more questions
[04:08] <Pelo> alexnb185,  yes ?
[04:08] <KurtKraut> jexdawg13, the next step is to change the file or the link that points to the default player. And I cant remember how to do it. Try asking in ubuntuforums.org - probably, someone already answered that there.
[04:08] <KurtKraut> jexdawg13, and this I'm certain that should fix the problem
[04:08] <LadyNikon> wooo
[04:08] <LadyNikon> did it
[04:08] <jexdawg13> the file or the link that points to the default player? you mean in swiftfox, or in all of ubuntu?
[04:08] <jimbo0> wait
[04:08] <LadyNikon> got this thing on the netz
[04:08] <alexnb185> the first is if i ahve a wireless receiver for my internet and other external devices.. do I need to basically start all over and reinstall those drivers in linux?
[04:08] <GreshP> jordan_U: Yes something like that
[04:08] <jimbo0> Jordan_U: I want to go to gdm
[04:08] <macd> jexdawg13, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-mplayer-in-firefox-under-ubuntu-is-not-working.html
[04:08] <macd> baddaboom.
[04:09] <jimbo0> Jordan_U: not to kdm
[04:09] <compilerwriter> Sherlockian:  Did you get your xwindows thing solved?
[04:09] <KurtKraut> jexdawg13, the link/pointer to the default player for all browsers, not other programs.
[04:09] <Jordan_U> jimbo0, It will ask you which you want to use
[04:09] <GreshP> Jimbo0: It should ask you to select which one
[04:09] <KurtKraut> jexdawg13, the default 'embeded' player for browsers
[04:09] <Sherlockian> veryclose, ill get back to you compilerwriter
[04:09] <jexdawg13> i see kurt. thank you.. i'll check out that link
[04:09] <GreshP> ok thanks again guys
[04:09] <Pelo> alexnb185,  you won,T be using your driver cd, you'll be using a proceedure we can give you a link to here
[04:09] <otakumark> What's the process manager in ubuntu?
[04:09] <Pelo> !wireless | alexnb185
[04:09] <ubotu> alexnb185: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:10] <crazycoffeedude> does anyone on here know how to dual boot?
[04:10] <Pelo> crazycoffeedude,  install grub
[04:10] <alexnb185> ok .. also when i get to step 5 again should i manually slect the partition i should use and then choose the free space
[04:10] <crazycoffeedude> what is grub
[04:10] <Jordan_U> otakumark, System -> Administration -> Process Manager
[04:10] <macd> !grub
[04:10] <Pelo> alexnb185,  just choose the avalable space for your ubuntu install ,  the prog will take care of the rest
[04:11] <FreeKFC_guy> im using xubuntu 6.10 - my mouse is working all wrong - when i try to mocve left it goes right and crazy - help plz
[04:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:11] <sorush20> Jordan_U: so I should loginto my comlive cd then mount the /root as some direcotyr on the livecd then mount the reset on where? in the /hdd1/root/
[04:11] <c_lisp> is there a program where you can make flash videos like micromedia flash?
[04:11] <Jordan_U> !dualboot | crazycoffeedude
[04:11] <ubotu> crazycoffeedude: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[04:11] <sorush20> Jordan_U: so I should loginto my comlive cd then mount the /root as some direcotyr on the livecd then mount the reset on where? in the /hdd1/root/
[04:11] <alexnb185> ok .... brb
[04:11] <Sherlockian> compilerwriter: i took all your advice and found a forum with the answer
[04:11] <jimbo0> Jordan_U: thanks man!
[04:11] <Pelo> c_lisp, http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[04:11] <Crell> Hi all.  Can anyone recommend a good PHP 5.2 backport for Edgy?  I am running into various segfault issues with PHP 5.1.6 that are apparently "known issues fixed in later versions". :-/
[04:11] <Sherlockian> compilerwriter: in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[04:11] <andyrak> Can anybody help me with trouble shooting LVM?
[04:11] <c_lisp> ty
[04:11] <crazycoffeedude> thanks ubotu
[04:12] <Sherlockian> is a line allowed_users=console
[04:12] <Sherlockian> to
[04:12] <Sherlockian> allowed_users=anybody
[04:12] <Sherlockian> then it works
[04:12] <KurtKraut> Crell, is your site PHP5 dependent ? Try downgrading for a while to PHP4 and when Feisty is release, you can migrate to Feisty.
[04:12] <alexnb185> ok pelo it says make sure you allows 256mb for swap space or somehting.. do I need to do anyhting with that if i have 16g of free space i am using for ubuntu
[04:12] <otakumark> For some reason I don't have a process manager listed, guess i need to install a thirdparty one
[04:12] <Crell> KurtKraut: I'm doing stuff with PDO.  PHP 4 doesn't even exist for me. :-)
[04:13] <ant-> otakumark : use the ps command
[04:13] <Sherlockian> compilerwriter: then all is well
[04:13] <Sherlockian> thx guyz
[04:13] <Pelo> alexnb185,  you got me lost a bit here,  did you ask to select the partitions yourself ? or did you tell the prog to use the free space ?
[04:13] <ant-> otakumark : type man ps for all its uses
[04:13] <KurtKraut> Crell, I think the official backport will be only opened after Feisty's release.
[04:13] <ant-> otakumark : ps -e is a common one
[04:13] <Jordan_U> mount your root partition ( the one Ubuntu is installed on ) on /chroot to make things easy, then run: sudo mount -o bind /dev /chroot/dev && sudo mount -o bind /proc /chroot/proc && sudo chroot /chroot
[04:14] <compilerwriter> ok then Sherlockian.  I just didn't want to pack it in without having attempted to get you squared a way.  It was a thing I know a bit about.
[04:14] <LadyNikon> !fluxbox
[04:14] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[04:14] <KurtKraut> Crell, try compiling the newest PHP
[04:14] <Crell> KurtKraut: Damn.  Do you know of a vaguely reliable unofficial backport?
[04:14] <LadyNikon> ok so..
[04:14] <HipotermiA> Quien es de argentinaa ?
[04:14] <quaal> what is the package to install ipv6 capability
[04:14] <LadyNikon> i got ntfs mounted.. but i cant seem to get the permissions correct
[04:14] <LadyNikon> i set it in fstab for my userid
[04:14] <Jordan_U> quaal, ipv6 is enabled by default
[04:14] <KurtKraut> quaal, Ubuntu is IPv6 ready
[04:14] <Crell> Oh I hate compiling stuff myself.  So nasty and un-packageish. :-(
[04:14] <quaal> LadyNikon, chmod 777
[04:14] <LadyNikon> but its still saying permission denied
[04:14] <cafuego_> !es
[04:14] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:14] <quaal> oh, ok
[04:14] <LadyNikon> quaal: no worky
[04:14] <KurtKraut> Crell, hmm... cant remeber
[04:15] <hole_> does anyone here run quake3 on ubuntu?
[04:15] <quaal> LadyNikon, hmm.. that should work..
[04:15] <Sherlockian> TO EVERYONE: Ubuntu and linux amazes me everyday the things you can do!
[04:15] <KurtKraut> Crell, tell your problem in #ubuntu-server
[04:15] <macd> Sherlockian, ubuntu = linux ;P
[04:15] <jimbo0> how do I make an application default for a given filetype?
[04:15] <Sherlockian> realllyyy =P
[04:15] <hole_> sherlockian you aint lyin
[04:15] <LadyNikon> quaal: here ill show you the error.. chmod: changing permissions of `/home/ladynikon/Desktop/windows': Read-only file system
[04:15] <ant-> !ntfs-3g | LadyNikon
[04:15] <ubotu> LadyNikon: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[04:15] <Crell> KurtKraut: I'll do so, thanks.
[04:15] <ant-> LadyNikon : you see that
[04:16] <LadyNikon> ant-: i know about that
[04:16] <quaal> LadyNikon, cant change permissions of RO
[04:16] <LadyNikon> but i wanted to manually mount it
[04:16] <cafuego_> jimbo0: Right click one of the files, go to the 'Open With' tab.
[04:16] <Sherlockian> my 600mhz loves ubuntu and fluxbox
[04:16] <LadyNikon> quaal: i took out ro of the fstab
[04:16] <LadyNikon> i still get that error.
[04:16] <quaal> LadyNikon, you dont wantto do that.
[04:16] <quaal> writing to ntfs is unstable
[04:16] <FreeKFC_guy> im having trouble with optical  mouse in xubuntu
[04:16] <LadyNikon> im not trying to write to it
[04:16] <quaal> just backup your data and convert to ext3 or something
[04:17] <KurtKraut> Crell, I've remember one reliable non-official repository: 'Seveas'
[04:17] <LadyNikon> i just took it out so that i can change the perm
[04:17] <quaal> LadyNikon, not sure where you're going wrong.. i've mounted ntfs before and been able to read from it fine
[04:17] <LadyNikon> ant-: i also had no internet connection at the time..
[04:17] <LadyNikon> but i got that working :D
[04:18] <LadyNikon> EVDO + linux ftw
[04:18] <FreeKFC_guy> is there a room for xubuntu users
[04:18] <Crell> KurtKraut: http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/ - That site?
[04:18] <FreeKFC_guy> i mean channel*
[04:18] <LadyNikon> !xbuntu
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xbuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <FreeKFC_guy> ty
[04:18] <LadyNikon> !xubuntu
[04:18] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[04:18] <hole_> where can i find installation repositories
[04:18] <ant-> FreeKFC_guy : you should know what the name would be
[04:18] <LadyNikon> ah..never heard of it
[04:18] <hole_> like for emule
[04:18] <KurtKraut> !seveas
[04:18] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:18] <hole_> i mean amule
[04:18] <Crell> Ahhh...
[04:18] <FreeKFC_guy> my mouse is eating my brain
[04:19] <heath> Linux freakin rocks!
[04:19] <LadyNikon> Xcfe.. is that like the lighter side of windows managers
[04:19] <hole_> i wanna put my mixes on p2p
[04:19] <ant-> LadyNikon : yes
[04:19] <artzneo> hi
[04:19] <heath> I'm so glad i shed myself from windows!
[04:19] <LadyNikon> they should make a fluxubuntu :D
[04:19] <ant-> LadyNikon : they do
[04:19] <LadyNikon> oh?
[04:19] <ant-> yes maam
[04:19] <LadyNikon> sweet
[04:20] <KurtKraut> Crell, I've checked here and it looks like Seveas repository is aimed for desktop packages
[04:20] <LadyNikon> meh i already installed it from ubuntu
[04:20] <artzneo> i have a problem whit da X  =(
[04:20] <LadyNikon> maybe when they come out with a stable fiesty
[04:20] <ant-> LadyNikon : i love flux
[04:20] <ant-> !fluxbuntu > LadyNikon
[04:20] <LadyNikon> when you set it up from here.. you haveto do everything manually
[04:20] <LadyNikon> ant-: please dont trigger me..
[04:21] <ant-> sorry
[04:21] <LadyNikon> es ok.. i just hate them  :D
[04:21] <artzneo> what room ubuntu spanish????
[04:21] <Crell> KurtKraut: Someone in the server channel suggests dotdeb.org
[04:21] <LadyNikon> !es
[04:21] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:21] <artzneo> thnks xD
[04:21] <madman91> !fr
[04:21] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:21] <madman91> !de
[04:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:21] <madman91> lol
[04:21] <madman91> thats pretty pimp
[04:21] <LadyNikon> madman91: ...
[04:22] <ant-> whats funny
[04:22] <LadyNikon> dont abuse ubotu it works hard enough as it is.
[04:22] <madman91> lol.. don't worry I'm done
[04:22] <heath> anyone know any good linux games?
[04:22] <ant-> doom3
[04:22] <LadyNikon> world of warcraft :D
[04:22] <hole_> how can you tell if youhave dapper,edgy,etc
[04:22] <Crell> Unreal Tournament 2k4.
[04:22] <heath> free games ;)
[04:22] <LadyNikon> hmm
[04:22] <Crell> Frozen Bubble.
[04:23] <Crell> PlanetPenguin Racer.
[04:23] <hole_> i like armagetron
[04:23] <ant-> crawl
[04:23] <hole_> veryaddictive
[04:23] <LadyNikon> hole_: to bad ver or version doesnt work
[04:23] <heath> you guys know any arcade scrolling shooter games?
[04:23] <FreeKFC_guy> if you wanna play games than you will miss windows
[04:23] <heath> similar to powermanga but not powermanga
[04:23] <FreeKFC_guy> *mis
[04:23] <LadyNikon> heath: this is a help channel please take your convo to ubuntu-offtopic
[04:24] <heath> I just want a few games to play in it
[04:24] <heath> Lady: Sorry
[04:24] <hole_> ladynikon what?
[04:24] <catid> hello..  why is it that some of the menu items in Edit Menus are italic and cannot be enabled?
[04:24] <quaal> how do you run a script file
[04:24] <Flannel> !games | heath
[04:24] <ubotu> heath: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:24] <quaal> ./scriptfile.so i thoght ?
[04:24] <Sherlockian> hole_:  cat /proc/issue
[04:24] <quaal> er
[04:24] <hole_> quaal "sh script.sh"
[04:24] <quaal> ./scriptfile.sh
[04:24] <heath> quaal: you need to make the script executable first
[04:24] <quaal> ahh
[04:25] <sbalneav> quaal: If it ends in a ".so" it's not a script.
[04:25] <hole_> sherlockian no i have quake3 problems
[04:25] <quaal> yea i meant sh
[04:25] <sbalneav> ah, ok
[04:25] <quaal> thanks guys
[04:25] <jetscreamer> there are no problems with quake
[04:25] <Sherlockian> hole_: ok nvm
[04:25] <heath> Flannel: thanks :D
[04:25] <hole_> quake3 kills x
[04:26] <Sherlockian> hole_: what does it take to play quake3...i heard something of u can use a windowsCD?
[04:26] <quaal> hello there jetscreamer
[04:26] <jetscreamer> hole_: i believe if you do glxinfo that too will probably kill your xwindows
[04:26] <jetscreamer> reinstall your driver
[04:26] <jetscreamer> if it does
[04:26] <jetscreamer> hey quaal
[04:26] <hole_> yea with wine but i'm trying to wein conpletelyoff of exe"s
[04:27] <hole_> it doesn't
[04:27] <grosminet> hi all :)
[04:27] <deftonesgirl> i need help with ubuntu
[04:27] <Steil> Is anyone else having a problem with gaim randomly crashing?
[04:27] <grosminet> gasp!... :  you may not power on a virtual machine in a virtual machine!
[04:27] <lucifiel> ant: hey good to see you, ant! I reinstalled ubuntu and fixed my problems with ubuntu crashing.
[04:27] <NickGarvey> deftonesgirl: you are in the right place
[04:28] <logocide> Hey, I Keep getting a Black screen everytime i "log out" of ubuntu.. any ideas?
[04:28] <eXcAliBuR> i need mail server help
[04:28] <FreeKFC_guy> how i configure my mouse
[04:29] <hole_> try xorgconfig
[04:29] <deftonesgirl> sweet, i was adding the trash applet to my bottom panels, when the program froze and i had to force quit it, then when I restarted both the panels have dissapeared and i don't know how to get them back
[04:30] <logocide> xorgconfig unknown command
[04:30] <eXcAliBuR> how to configure my mail server?
[04:30] <harley> !feisty
[04:30] <eXcAliBuR> anyone
[04:30] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:30] <eXcAliBuR> pls help
[04:30] <hole_> sudo xorgconfig
[04:30] <heath> deftonesgirl: in a terminal try typing "gnome-panel &"
[04:30] <deftonesgirl> will do
[04:30] <logocide> hole, unkown command
[04:31] <hole_> what version
[04:31] <logocide> 6.10\
[04:31] <Pelo> logocide,  dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[04:31] <jetscreamer> try exim4-config maybe
[04:32] <logocide>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg
[04:32] <logocide> Package `xserver.xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[04:32] <bimberi> - (hyphen), not - (dot)
[04:32] <Pelo> logocide,  could be xserver-xorg
[04:32] <hole_> then sudo apt-get install xorg-base
[04:32] <deftonesgirl> ok, i can't seem to get an terminal to open no matter what I do
[04:32] <bimberi> er, .
[04:33] <con-man> !wow
[04:33] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:33] <Pelo> defendguin,  try alt-f2   xterm
[04:33] <heath> defttonesgirl: have you tried logging out? ctrl+alt+backspace?
[04:33] <logocide> could find packeage xorg-base
[04:33] <logocide> couldnt"
[04:33] <Pelo> logocide,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:34] <deftonesgirl> yes i've logged out and then logged back in, the panels are still gone and can't get a terminal open
[04:34] <squee_> Does anyone know how I can pipe a festival command to and then leave the festival shell?
[04:34] <heath> defttonesgirl: if you right click on your desktop can u create a launcher?
[04:34] <deftonesgirl> yea
[04:35] <Pelo> deftonesgirl, did you try  alt+f2  and type  xterm
[04:35] <deftonesgirl> i did try alt-f2 to no avail
[04:35] <deftonesgirl> that usually works
[04:35] <deftonesgirl> but not this time
[04:35] <heath> I would try creating a launcher to "gnome-terminal" or "xterm"
[04:36] <Pelo> deftonesgirl,  try rebooting in recovery mode  when you get to the command line  type  sudo apt-get intall ubuntu-desktop
[04:36] <hikenboot> greetings all - I just upgraded to ubuntu 7.0.4Beta...I made the error of desiging my / drive to be too small i have separate /usr /var swap /tmp and /home any recommends?
[04:36] <Pelo> hikenboot,   I recommend you ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:36] <deftonesgirl> thanks pelo, will try asap
[04:36] <hikenboot> thanks Pelo
[04:37] <jetscreamer> !thank pelo
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thank pelo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <jetscreamer> gah
[04:37] <jetscreamer> whatabot
[04:37] <jetscreamer> !botsnack
[04:37] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:37] <bimberi> !thanks | jetscreamer
[04:37] <ubotu> jetscreamer: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:38] <joebonni__> does anyone use xchat
[04:38] <Pelo> joebob777as7,  most ppl in here
[04:38] <jetscreamer> yes
[04:38] <KurtKraut> Pelo, I hate too
[04:38] <squee_> Does anyone here know how to use festival
[04:39] <jetscreamer> i made it talk before but forget how
[04:39] <Crazytom> joebonni__, i do
[04:39] <joebonni__> i turned off my file bar or command bar accident how do i turn it back on
[04:39] <squee_> jetscreamer: I can make it talk but i want to automate it through a script
[04:39] <jetscreamer> i think you just festival somefile but i forget
[04:39] <jetscreamer> ah beyond me
[04:39] <lucifiel> Pelo: PINK??! roflmao!!! I'm female but i don't really like pink either. :p
[04:39] <Pelo> squee_,  man festival or try their site ( you can probably get there using wikipedia if you can't otherwise)
[04:39] <squee_> Pelo I've been doing that for the past 20 minutes and it isn't working like i thought it should
[04:40] <Pelo> !wireless > alexnb185
[04:40] <Pelo> Lucifel,  it was cheap
[04:41] <joebonni__> how do you turn on the commmand bar in xchat
[04:41] <Pelo> joebob777as7,  what do you mean command bar ?
[04:41] <Pelo> joebonni,  what do you mean command bar ?
[04:41] <joebonni__> the file view help bar
[04:41] <joebonni__> i turned it off on accident
[04:41] <Pelo> oh
[04:42] <Toma-> anyone how to resolve latency issues with audacity?
[04:42] <Pelo> joebonni,   ctrl+f9
[04:42] <joebonni__> thank you pelo
[04:42] <joebonni__> amen
[04:44] <nfearnley> Does anyone know where I can get help with settings for openal?
[04:44] <squee_> Toma- I've never been able to get audacity working from the repositories.  Compiling it myself always works though
[04:44] <shawnr> can i get help for 7.04 in here?
[04:45] <squee_> shawnr: /join #ubuntu+x :P
[04:45] <squee_> er
[04:45] <shawnr> thanks
[04:45] <squee_> shawnr: /join #ubuntu+1 *
[04:45] <Pelo> shawnr,  no , #ubuntu+1
[04:45] <squee_> heh sorry typo
[04:46] <Megaqwerty> My friend has an Ubuntu Server, and he would like to configure some of it himself, but he needs a GUI (he isn't that great with the command line yet) so I have installed ubuntu-desktop on his box, along with vncserver so that he can view his server in a GUI remotely. Now, this works fine, until the box is rebooted, in which case, he or I have to ssh in and start vncserver. Is there a way that I can have ubuntu automatically start vncse
[04:46] <squee_> Megaqwerty: Is there an init script for it?
[04:48] <Megaqwerty> squee_: I have made a shell script with all of the parameters for starting (i.e. screen resolution, etc.) and put it in /etc/init.d
[04:48] <KurtKraut> Megaqwerty, it is extremely unsafe running vncserver all the time.
[04:48] <Megaqwerty> KurtKraut: This is only until it is configured
[04:48] <ant-> Megaqwerty : if its edgy or up it'll use upstart instead of inittab (upstart.ubuntu.com)
[04:48] <KurtKraut> Megaqwerty, I recoment you only running SSH with ssh-keys to increase security and once you log in into SSH, you can manually run VNC when needed and close after that.
[04:48] <Megaqwerty> ant-: It is Dapper
[04:49] <ant-> lol
[04:49] <squee_> Megaquerty: Try sudo rc-update add (scriptname) defaults
[04:49] <Anima> Hello. I am having issues with Ubuntu right now. I am dual booting with Win XP (I am on XP right now). I installed Ubuntu Eft. It boots straight into XP. Any tips?
[04:50] <Megaqwerty> squee_: I have already tried sudo ln -s /home/username/vncstart.sh /etc/rc2.d/S99vncstart
[04:50] <squee_> Anima: You installed windows xp second I take it?
[04:50] <Anima> nope
[04:50] <Crell> Anima: You need to have a functioning boot loader.
[04:50] <Anima> first
[04:50] <Pelo> Anima, do you get a grub boot menu ?
[04:50] <bimberi> Megaqwerty: try adding this to /etc/rc.local (before 'exit 0'):   su - <username> -c vncserver
[04:50] <Anima> nope
[04:50] <Crell> Did you tell the installer to setup grub when you installed Ubuntu?
[04:50] <Pelo> Anima,  are xp and ubuntu installed on the same hdd ?
[04:50] <squee_> Megaquerty: chmod +x ?
[04:50] <Anima> yes but different partitions
[04:51] <Anima> ummm I cant remember now Crell
[04:51] <Pelo> Anima,  have you ever been able to boot ubuntu ?
[04:51] <squee_> Anima: Boot into the cd and run grub-install
[04:51] <Megaqwerty> squee_: the script itself (not the symbolic link) has been chmod'ed with +x
[04:51] <Anima> Pelo: only from the cd
[04:51] <Anima> squee_: i guess i have to try that
[04:51] <Pelo> Anima,  do what sqee suggested
[04:51] <Anima> Alright.
[04:52] <Anima> I should add this to autojoin. I am going to need a lot of help xD
[04:52] <squee_> Anima: That will likely remove xp from the list, but look into the menu.lst and you should see a good example to put xp back in there
[04:52] <Pelo> there is a direct link in xchat in ubuntu
[04:52] <Anima> eep
[04:52] <deftonesgirl> pelo, that didn't work
[04:52] <squee_> Megaqwerty: Are you running dapper or edgy?
[04:53] <joebonni> this is a very big channel
[04:53] <Megaqwerty> squee_: dapper
[04:53] <tyler_d> need help with my radeon 9600... drivers won't install... framerate sucks
[04:53] <Anima> Another problem is I have D-Link WUA-1340 wireless usb and I do not have internet access
[04:53] <deftonesgirl> but I did figure out how to get a terminal open (im edgy btw)
[04:53] <squee_> Megaqwerty: Have you heard of freenx?
[04:53] <Megaqwerty> squee_: no
[04:53] <Pelo> deftonesgirl, ok do you have a desktop right now ?
[04:54] <squee_> Megaqwerty: It's like vnc accelerated for X (alot easier to set up in dapper).  Try setting that up instead if you can
[04:54] <deftonesgirl> yes
[04:54] <heath> deftonesgirl try making a launcher
[04:54] <alexnb185> hey does anyone know how to make a wireless receiver work on a linux computer.. cna i install the driver or what
[04:54] <thecort> hey everyone, I'm having a problem using ndiswrapper on my Broadcom wireless card. I can't seem to see wlan0 when I use ifconfig
[04:54] <squee_> alexbn185: Do you know what wireless card?
[04:54] <Megaqwerty> squee_: and this can be accessed by "vncviewer" ?
[04:54] <Pelo> !wireless | alexnb185
[04:54] <ubotu> alexnb185: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:54] <squee_> squee: Nope : / freenx client
[04:54] <Pelo> deftonesgirl, holdon
[04:55] <squee_> Megaqwerty: (typo i talked to myself) nope you have to use the freenx client
[04:55] <Megaqwerty> squee_: yeah, can't do that. Unless there is a Windows version as well.
[04:55] <alexnb185> it is an extermail receiver.. by zyxel
[04:55] <Pelo> sqee do you have a minute, I need you to get the keyboard short cut for the terminal from   menu > system > prefs > keyboard short cut
[04:55] <Pelo> sqee it's for deftonesgirl
[04:55] <squee_> alexnb185: pcmcia or usb?
[04:56] <Megaqwerty> squee_: thanks for the suggestion though
[04:56] <alexnb185> usb
[04:56] <Crazytom> thecort, what kind of chipset do you have?
[04:56] <chasetoys> how can i get commands i set with alias to be saved across terminal sessions (and restarts)?
[04:56] <Megaqwerty> bimberi: can I change vncserver to /path/to/my/script ?
[04:56] <squee_> pelo: I'm not sure what you're asking for... ctrl alt f1?
[04:56] <otakumark> How do I get permissions to make directories, etc, in Ubuntu? "Cannot create directory `/usr/X11R6/lib/modules': Permission denied
[04:56] <otakumark> "
[04:56] <thecort> CrazyTom: BCM4311
[04:57] <squee_> chasetoys: look into xmodmap
[04:57] <alexnb185> squee it is usb
[04:57] <heath> chasetoys: you edited your .bashrc?
[04:57] <squee_> otakutype sudo
[04:57] <Megaqwerty> otakumark: by putting "sudo" in front of your command i.e. sudo mkdir /usr/X11R6/lib/modules
[04:57] <Pelo> squee_,  look in the menu, in the prfts  there is an app to set kb shorcuts,  I need to know the default for the terminal
[04:57] <chasetoys> heath: ive done that befofre.. just sock em in there huh
[04:57] <HymnToLife> otakumark, why do you want to do that ?
[04:57] <Pelo> deftonesgirl,  try ctrl+alt+f1
[04:57] <heath> chasetoys: yeah
[04:58] <otakumark> working on installing beryl and opengl is not enabled so I need to fix my video drivers :>
[04:58] <squee_> Pelo: Disabled by default, but you can push alt+f2 and type gnome-terminal
[04:58] <chasetoys> how do i install GVIM (my best ffriendf) ....?  sudo apt-get install gvim doesnt work;  nor does vim-common (i want my gvim ! :P)
[04:58] <heath> chasetoys: that file gets read everytime you open a terminal
[04:58] <Megaqwerty> bimberi: you still here?
[04:58] <alexnb185> does anyone know how to set up a usb wireless internet receiver???
[04:58] <Pelo> squee_,  it,s not for me,  deftonesgirl  lost all her pannels and is stuck
[04:58] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search vim
[04:58] <heath> chasetoys: sudo aptitude install gvim
[04:59] <chasetoys> heath: whats with aptitude versus apt-get?
[04:59] <otakumark> brb
[04:59] <Pelo> alexnb185,  look up you model number in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.con
[04:59] <squee_> Pelo: If the panels are stuck, ctrl alt backspace?
[04:59] <bimberi> Megaqwerty: perhaps. what does the script do?
[04:59] <Pelo> squee_,  not stuck,, removed
[04:59] <Pelo> deftonesgirl,  how are you doing ?
[04:59] <Megaqwerty> bimberi: I'll pastebin it
[04:59] <bimberi> Megaqwerty: k
[04:59] <deftonesgirl> still trying
[04:59] <heath> chasetoys: one is gui one is command line
[04:59] <deftonesgirl> i'm a noob, but I'm tryin
[04:59] <squee_> Pelo: Then just use alt+f2, that is run.  From there you should be able to run gnome-terminal
[05:00] <chasetoys> heath: well aptitude didnt require any gui.; just looked like a command line command to me
[05:00] <deftonesgirl> ok
[05:00] <heath> chasetoys: type "aptitude" by itself on the command line ;)
[05:00] <deftonesgirl> i have a terminal
[05:00] <deftonesgirl> now what
[05:00] <Pelo> good girl
[05:00] <Crazytom> thecort, are you sure that it's wlan0?
[05:00] <heath> lol pelo
[05:00] <Pelo> deftonesgirl,   gnome-pannel
[05:00] <Megaqwerty> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13483/
[05:01] <thecort> well, it should, I used modprobe ndiswrapper and it said it set up as wlan0
[05:01] <squee_> deftonesgirl: type "ps auxwww |grep -i panel"  Does it return anything?
[05:01] <Megaqwerty> bimberi: it's a really simple script, basically because I don't want to type all of that every time I launch vncserver
[05:02] <bimberi> Megaqwerty: yep, that would be:  su - <username> -c /path/to/your/script
[05:02] <ud-> any tips to make suspend/hibernate work on my laptop? they just freeze with a black screen when I try to resume
[05:02] <deftonesgirl> ok, i'm having another prob, that i need to shut down the comp and restart
[05:02] <deftonesgirl> will be back
[05:02] <deftonesgirl> thanks so far though
[05:02] <Megaqwerty> bimberi: thanks.
[05:02] <bimberi> Megaqwerty: in /etc/rc.local, before 'exit 0'
[05:02] <bimberi> Megaqwerty: np :)
[05:03] <mortici> how do i add my self to a group without loosing previous groups?
[05:03] <squee_> deftonesgirl: right click on the panel on any side of the screen it is at, and click add to panel.  You should find a shutdown button in there
[05:03] <jrib> mortici: system > administration > users and groups    or use "adduser"
[05:03] <thecort> Crazytom: when I use ndiswrapper -l I get bcmwl6 : driver installed device(14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[05:04] <crimsun> thecort: ndiswrapper renames wlan0 -> eth0
[05:04] <PanzerMKZ> [Back]  Duration:[21 Hours 17 Minutes and 55 Seconds]  Reason:[auto away after 30 minutes of inactivity]  Syris 1.9.1
[05:04] <crimsun> thecort: note that you have bcm43xx loaded currently
[05:04] <squee_> deftonesgirl:the button is called "Quit..."
[05:04] <mortici> jrib
[05:04] <Crazytom> thecort have you installed fwcutter?
[05:04] <thecort> Crazytom: no
[05:04] <crimsun> -fwcutter is not necessary for ndiswrapper.
[05:05] <thecort> I read somewhat that it can interfere with ndiswrapper
[05:05] <thecort> somwhere*
[05:05] <crimsun> thecort: that's because it's only necessary for the native driver, bcm43xx
[05:05] <Crazytom> yes it will
[05:06] <thecort> crimsun: should I disable bcm43xx?
[05:06] <crimsun> thecort: you must blacklist it if you plan to use ndiswrapper
[05:06] <thecort> I have it on the blacklist
[05:06] <crimsun> thecort: have you rebooted yet?
[05:06] <thecort> crimsun: yeah
[05:07] <crimsun> thecort: grep -i bcm43xx /etc/modprobe.d/*
[05:07] <thecort> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist:blacklist bcm43xx
[05:07] <thecort> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist~:blacklist bcm43xx
[05:08] <crimsun> thecort: lsmod |grep ^bcm43xx
[05:09] <crimsun> note that bcmwl6 doesn't work under ndiswrapper yet; you need to use bcmwl5
[05:09] <thecort> crimsun: no return
[05:09] <crimsun> thecort: see above note about bcmwl6
[05:09] <thecort> crimsun: I tried bcmwl5, it said invalid driver
[05:10] <crimsun> thecort: what's your SSID for the broadcom device?
[05:11] <brent> hey guys, I've popped in a xubuntu live cd and now I'm at the GDM and it's asking me for a username and password.
[05:11] <thecort> crimsun: where do I find that?
[05:11] <brent> it may be the same as the username/password for ubuntu live cd, does anyone know the default?
[05:12] <Pelo> brent, if you are in the live cd just   click enter
[05:12] <brent> Pelo: GDM is demanding a username/password, there is nothing to do but enter username and pass
[05:12] <brent> it's kinda weird for a live cd
[05:13] <crimsun> thecort: lspci -vvn
[05:13] <crimsun> thecort: use pastebin
[05:15] <smo> how can i do to tell in bash for exemple if $foo is equal or higher than X1000 then.....
[05:15] <smo> boring me
[05:15] <thecort> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13485/
[05:15] <Pelo> brent,  are you sure you booted the live cd and not your regular hdd by mistake ?
[05:15] <deftonesgirl_> ok i tried what you guys said about "gnome-panel" and it said that a gnome panel is already running when its obviously not
[05:15] <lucifiel> bah
[05:15] <Pelo> smo,  I have a bash guide if you want ot look i tup
[05:15] <brent> Pelo: yep this is a Windows ME machine I just received
[05:16] <smo> i m on ggoogle since few hours so now i m tired...
[05:16] <brent> I'm rebooting to see if it does it again
[05:16] <Pelo> smo, http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[05:16] <smo> need more direct help
[05:16] <aild> how can I load other WM installed on my machine?
[05:16] <lucifiel> !ubuntu
[05:16] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[05:16] <lucifiel> bah
[05:17] <aild> I use ubuntu on my computer.. but im trying to run other WM on slackware.. @ a pentium 166 lol
[05:17] <crimsun> thecort: which HP Pavilion?
[05:17] <brent> Pelo: well, after rebooting it went straight to the environment like it should, I guess it was just a bug
[05:17] <jetscreamer> win-dow man-a-ger
[05:17] <thecort> crimsun: dv2214us
[05:17] <ud-> fvwm or something even lighter
[05:18] <Pelo> brent,  computers, go figure
[05:18] <jetscreamer> !info icewm
[05:18] <ubotu> icewm: wonderful Win95-OS/2-Motif-like window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.28-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 666 kB, installed size 1696 kB
[05:18] <reckless_> brent: must be a  mac
[05:18] <crimsun> thecort: right, you definitely need to use bcmwl5. I have a dv6205us with that precise wireless chipset.
[05:18] <lucifiel> Pelo: if Ubuntu has crashed about 2 times so far(3rd day on a fresh installation), should i be concerned.
[05:18] <thecort> okay
[05:19] <smo> if [ $ATIMOD |grep "X1.*" ] ;then...  can t i do something like that???
[05:19] <Pelo> Lucifel,  only if you know what you are doing
[05:19] <smo> the ATIMOd return X1600 for exemple or 9200 on another pc
[05:19] <thecort> crimsun: I'll try to remove the bcml6 from ndiswrapper, do you know how to do that completely?
[05:19] <KyleYankan> Hey, does anyone know how-to make the clock applet's calendar sync to sunbird?
[05:19] <Pelo> Lucifel,  you don't know what you are doing it's reseanoble that you messed things up
[05:19] <Pelo> Lucifel,  what were you doing when it crashed ?
[05:20] <reckless_> lucifiel: depends what you mean by crash, does all the hardware work fine on anther install or distro?
[05:20] <Pelo> KyleYankan,  did you try the forum ?
[05:20] <lucifiel> pelo: i was taking a look at history.dat from Firefox
[05:20] <craigbass1976> I've got java installed (downloaded sun's and ran the binary) but how do I get firefox to use it?  I'm on edgy
[05:20] <lucifiel> reckless_ : uhhh though I've dual-booted WinXP with ubuntu, i haven't logged in much into WinxP
[05:21] <smo> sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:21] <Pelo> Lucifel,  and how did it crash ? what exactly happened
[05:21] <lucifiel> reckless_ : so no, i don't know...
[05:21] <bulmer> craigbass1976:  what do you get  when you type java -version?
[05:21] <lucifiel> pelo: screen went totally black and i was kicked into the user login screen. that means X crashed, right?
[05:21] <bulmer> smo wrong answer to his questions
[05:21] <KyleYankan> Pelo: Either the posts are unanswered, or the user is told the clock applet only provides support with evolution. I didn't know if there was another clock applet
[05:21] <smo> yeah i know ...
[05:22] <smo> sorry
[05:22] <craigbass1976> bulmer, 1.4.2
[05:22] <brent> wow, this thing has 13 GB harddrive, 450mh proc, and 96MB of ram!
[05:22] <Pelo> Lucifel, it was like that with me,  I installed ubuntu to check it out and booted windows only 5 days later to grab my email account info
[05:22] <reckless_> lucifiel: a good way to see if its a hardware crash is to toggle the caps lock on/off, if its non responsive, that means something big is eating up the cpu or it has hard crashed
[05:22] <bulmer> craigbass1976: is that the version you downloaded and installed most recently?
[05:22] <brent> Win ME was barely making it
[05:22] <crimsun> thecort: rm -r /etc/ndiswrapper
[05:22] <crimsun> thecort: make sure you use http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=ob-45290-1&lc=en&cc=sg&dlc=en&product=3245619&os=228&lang=en
[05:22] <jetscreamer> i thought you said you loved winme and would never ever run any other os
[05:22] <cables> Is there any way to embed Document Viewer in Firefox for PDFs?
[05:23] <Crazytom> brent, what?  your coffee maker?
[05:23] <lucifiel> reckless_ : okay, i'll try that next time it crashes.
[05:23] <craigbass1976> bulmer, /jdk1.5.0_08 is what I grabbed.  This is the environment I install to get OOBase running with MySQL
[05:23] <Pelo> Lucifel,  crtl+alt+backspace  restarts  Xwindows manager in linux,  if you were use to that combination of key in windows for some other function that might have been the problem
[05:23] <brent> Crazytom: lol no my gf's dad just gave me two ancient computers
[05:23] <lucifiel> Pelo: well, maybe i should upgrade from dapper to edgy. Perhaps, it's some bug within the o/s that's causing ubuntu to crash.
[05:24] <bulmer> craigbass1976: you need to run update-alternatives
[05:24] <Pelo> Lucifel,  dapper is pretty stable, but edgy does have a few fixes and extras
[05:24] <craigbass1976> Lucifel, if dapper crashing is your problem, I don't know as edgy is your answer
[05:24] <lucifiel> Pelo: oh no, i didn't even touch those keys. LOL.
[05:24] <craigbass1976> but maybe
[05:24] <craigbass1976> bulmer, sudo update-alternatives?
[05:24] <lucifiel> craigbass1976: oh i see.  hmmm
[05:25] <ant-> there is a lucifel and a lucifiel...
[05:25] <thecort> crimsun: I have it
[05:25] <bulmer> craigbass1976: there are options to it.. I dont know off hand you have to man update-alternatives
[05:25] <craigbass1976> Lucifel, jsut because edgy is a bit more...edgy.  Experimental maybe?
[05:25] <lucifiel> ant: what, really?
[05:25] <craigbass1976> bulmer, ok
[05:25] <atoponce> question asked to me in my loco channel, and i don't know the answer:
[05:25] <atoponce> "how long have the UUIDs for partitions been incorperated into the kernel?"
[05:25] <ant-> craigbass1976: lucifel is someone else
[05:25] <Lucifel> craigbass1976: please address the right person
[05:25] <crimsun> thecort: SP34152A? ok.
[05:25] <NefariousPrior> Anyone know what I can do about this?? --->  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:26] <lucifiel> craigbass1976: hmmmmmmmm i see, thank you for the information. :p
[05:26] <crimsun> NefariousPrior: that's expected if you use Nvidia drivers.
[05:26] <lucifiel> okay wait, i'll change my nick...
[05:26] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  I think you take the name at face value too much
[05:26] <atoponce> he likes the idea, and is just curious when it was implemented
[05:26] <atoponce> anyone?
[05:26] <NefariousPrior> crimsun, I don't use nvidia.
[05:26] <hidan> okay, i think it'd be a bit easier to tell me apart now. :p
[05:26] <ant-> its an easy mistake, the name is different only by one letter
[05:26] <duri> what is considered the value-add of ubuntu-server vs  a debian testing (for a server install) ? thanks
[05:27] <hidan> ant: yeah, so hidan is a better nick, i think. ^^;;
[05:27] <mdasilva> wow i suck
[05:27] <ant-> hidan : you still having problems after a clean install?
[05:27] <mdasilva> how can i get sendmail to listen for incoming mail on a specific interface/
[05:27] <mdasilva> ?
[05:28] <hidan> ant: well, except for X crashing, not many other problems.
[05:28] <crimsun> NefariousPrior: which graphics chipset?
[05:28] <craigbass1976> Pelo, Hasn't edgy got newer stuff that maybe hasn't been tested so much?  While I'll still take it over windows any day, that was my understanding.
[05:28] <NefariousPrior> crimsun: Ati Radeon 9000
[05:28] <ant-> hidan : its still a big problem
[05:28] <hidan> ant: hmmm... except that i kinda need to disable one of my ethernet cards. one is an on-board lan chip and could be responsible for X crashing.
[05:28] <cables> Is there any way to get PDFs to open in Firefox, but without installing Adobe Reader? i.e. I want to be able to embed Document Viewer inside a Firefox tab. Is there a tool to do that?
[05:28] <aabrahao> Hi, Ive installed ubuntu 6.10 server, and kubuntu-desktop, but in serverx I did not found webserver applications like apache, mysql, email, etc. Any tip?
[05:29] <hidan> ant: yeah, it's annoying... =/
[05:29] <ant-> i feel for you bro
[05:29] <cyris> Hey everyone. Good article on hardening SSH. http://enterprise.linux.com/enterprise/07/03/26/1423232.shtml?tid=129&tid=100&tid=35
[05:29] <maxxism> hey all.  anyone good with NFS?   I am having some speed issues mounting NFS shares over 100MB network.  it takes over 3 minutes a share to mount.  they mount and work ok.  but it never used to take this long.
[05:29] <PanzerMKZ> aabraho: you apt-get the servers that you need?
[05:29] <brent> this other machine I just got has a 2GB harddrive and 96 MB of ram, perfect for linux :)
[05:29] <thecort> crimsun: I installed the bcmwl5. It says the same thing when I use ndiswrapper -l
[05:29] <hidan> ant: call me sis, please. :P I don't think my genders switched while i was sleeping. =D
[05:29] <KonquerHer> is there an ATI equivalent of Envy?
[05:29] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  that is what I thought it was then I first upgraded but after 6 months of use I think I was mistaken,  it does have a lot of new stuff in it compared to dapper but I am not so sure about untested
[05:30] <brent> KonquerHer: the radeon drivers that are built into x.org
[05:30] <Pelo> KonquerHer,  I think envy handles  ati to
[05:30] <KonquerHer> brent: You mean x.org is already configured for ati card?
[05:30] <brent> KonquerHer: sorry I thought you typed nouveau, nevermind!
 I imagine the ubunru server is with all applications, dont?
[05:31] <craigbass1976> Pelo, ok.  I put dapper on my desktop because I thought it'd be more stable, but edgy (yesterday--finally giving fedora the heave ho) on my lappy because I wanted the newer kernel and other stuff
[05:31] <KonquerHer> envy is for nvidia i think... Geforce stuff
[05:31] <NefariousPrior> crimsun: Any ideas?
[05:31] <hidan> ant: nah, no problem... hmm, is there an utility that will identify my eth0 and eth1 devices? see, i need to disable the via onboard lan but can't figure it out.
[05:31] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  ther is nothing wrong with dapper
[05:31] <craigbass1976> Pelo, with the understanding that it might break more than dapper
[05:31] <crimsun> NefariousPrior: are you using the proper radeon driver?
[05:31] <ant-> hidan : maybe device manager
[05:31] <MTecknology> How can I run the top command in the background? w/o using ctrl+z
[05:31] <binfalse> sup
[05:32] <binfalse> confidential
[05:32] <craigbass1976> Pelo, if I'm wrong and edgy is plenty stable (can't be any worse than windows) then WOOHOO
[05:32] <NefariousPrior> crimsun: Yes. The error leads me to believe I'm missing something in the config.
[05:32] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  I realy don't recall an official position,  but it hasn't been my experience that edgy breaks more
[05:32] <ant-> hidan : you might be able to disable it through iwconfig as well
[05:32] <hidan> ant: ooh okay device manager doesn't seem to allow that but maybe iwconfig will, thank you. :)
[05:32] <craigbass1976> Pelo, I'll call it good then.
[05:32] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  I can vouch for that , it is better then windows
[05:32] <ant-> hidan : do a man iwconfig
[05:32] <|rt|> edgy has been solid for me here
[05:32] <crimsun> NefariousPrior: like Load "dri"?
[05:32] <otakumark> So I installed Skype, it was working fine, then I accidentally shut off my computer while using it to talk to someone else. I start back up my computer, and when I click the skype icon to start it nothing happens, several skype reinstalls later still the same problem. Anyone familiar with this?
[05:32] <deftonesgirl> I finally figured out what the problem was and fixed it, thanks for all your help though guys!
[05:33] <Khymaera> Anyone know about high res versions of the Ubuntu Logo
[05:33] <hidan> ant: eh, wait, mine's not a wireless connection.
[05:33] <ant-> hidan :ohhh i misunderstood i'm sorry, then its ifconfig
[05:33] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  in the interest of full disclosure,  I do get an odd HAL problem that forces me to boot again , but that only happens after I have rebooted from windows
[05:33] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm trying to compile a program but get this error (note that I have the python-dev package installed): checking for headers required to compile python extensions... not found
[05:34] <NefariousPrior> crimsun: I think "XFree86-DRI" ??  --->  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:34] <crimsun> NefariousPrior: no, Load "dri"
[05:34] <thecort> crimsun: I'm going to try rebooting
[05:34] <craigbass1976> Pelo, Ahh, see I quit my windows habit over a year ago (went to rehab, you see) and wouldn't have run into that.
[05:34] <Pelo> kkerwin,  what is the exact msg ?
[05:34] <kkerwin> Pelo: That's it. It's a configure message.
[05:34] <NefariousPrior> crimsun: I already have that.  I tried using the driver from the ATI website, but the damn thing won't even extract.
[05:34] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  I am down to one window apps and I barely use it these days anyway
[05:34] <hidan> ant: hmmmm i don't see anything referring to my devices from ifconfig. hmmm
 I imagine the ubunru server is with all applications, dont? If dont what is the real difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[05:35] <craigbass1976> Pelo, what are you still using?
[05:35] <crimsun> NefariousPrior: I don't think the 9000 uses fglrx. What does BinaryDriverHowto say?
[05:35] <Pelo> kkerwin,  could be the wrong version of python ,  can't you find a deb package ?
[05:35] <kkerwin> Pelo: I cannot, no. It's an SVN program and is still pretty alpha.
[05:35] <NefariousPrior> crimsun: it does use fglrx afaik.  BinaryDriverHowto ?
[05:36] <kkerwin> Pelo: I was wondering if there was a $PATH problem or something ...
[05:36] <crimsun> NefariousPrior: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <craigbass1976> Pelo, Is there no alternative?  I looked once but couldn't find one.  There was some app the government used to design a tank or something, but I didn't look too far into it.
[05:36] <lovloss> how come the repositories for ubuntu doesnt have the newest version of blender?
[05:36] <Pelo> kkerwin,  I would check with the makers of the prog,  in their channel if they have one,  they are probably aware of the problem and know how to fix it , check their forrum to if they have one
[05:36] <kkerwin> Pelo: Also, dpkg -L python-dev just returns a doc directory: /usr/share/doc/python-dev
[05:36] <lovloss> *don't
[05:37] <atoponce> lovloss: when was the newest version released?
[05:37] <lovloss> atoponce: A few months ago i think
[05:37] <kkerwin> Pelo: It doesn't list any libraries at all.
[05:37] <NefariousPrior> crimsun: I'll check there. thanks
[05:37] <crimsun> lovloss: do you mean for edgy or feisty?
[05:37] <lovloss> feisty has different repos?
[05:37] <Compaq_Administr> hi
[05:37] <atoponce> lovloss: that's why then. if there are any new releases after ubuntu freezes it's version, then you won't see it until the next release
[05:38] <Pelo> craigbass1976,  there are a couple but they arent, up to scratch yet,  I am not too bothered,  I don't need it much these days and if I do it's work so it is a good thing that I donT' have my toys at hand
[05:38] <atoponce> lovloss: the only thing that gets updated are security bugs
[05:38] <Mersault> anyone in here happen to know which filesystems can be defraged while mounted? I building a box, and I don't expect any filesystem to be able to handle the application I'm using it for without fragmenting substantially
[05:38] <thecort> crimsun: nothing has changed after an install of bcmwl5 and a reboot
[05:38] <lovloss> oh... so ill have to relearn all the aptitude names again when i get feisty
[05:38] <Pelo> kkerwin,  I don't know then , you could also check the ubuntuforums,   maybe someone else had that problem
[05:38] <crimsun> thecort: did you `sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' ?
[05:38] <kkerwin> Pelo: Thank you.
[05:38] <atoponce> lovloss: no. the names will most likely be the same
[05:38] <hidan> ant: i looked in syslog and this is what i found. Apr  2 11:13:43 lucifiel gconfd (lucifiel-5118): Received signal 15, shutting down cleanly
[05:38] <hidan> Apr  2 11:13:43 lucifiel gconfd (lucifiel-5118): Exiting
[05:38] <hidan> Apr  2 11:13:43 lucifiel gdm[4680] : Error reinitilizing server
[05:38] <Pelo> kkerwin,  np
[05:38] <crimsun> thecort: (or do you have ndiswrapper listed in /etc/modules ?)
[05:38] <nickle98> hey, what program do you recommend to burn the iso image onto a disk?
[05:38] <atoponce> lovloss: just the version #'s will be different
[05:38] <testify> I'm having some problems with one of my drives giving me some errors on bootup. I've posted my dmesg log here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13486/ . I've tried going through e2fsck, but I can't seem to get a good lock on the superblock. Any help would be appreciated.
[05:39] <ant-> hidan : i'm assuming you didnt tell it to do that?
[05:39] <lovloss> atoponce: I made a big list of aptitude install names so that i can quickly reinstall all my favorite programs when i get feisty set up on the new computer
[05:39] <hidan> ant: uhh no?
[05:39] <nickle98> what program should i use to burn the iso image on a disk?
[05:39] <atoponce> lovloss: you shouldn't have any problems
[05:39] <ant-> hidan : did you press ctrl+alt+bcksp
[05:39] <Pelo> Mersault,  reisfer I think
[05:39] <hidan> ant: nope, i wasn't pressing any keys.
[05:39] <Pelo> crimsun,  gnomebaker
[05:39] <bimberi> nickle98: In Ubuntu? Just right-click and select Write to CD
[05:40] <thecort> crimsun: yes to both
[05:40] <Pelo> sorry,   nickle98  gnomebaker
[05:40] <nickle98> o.O
[05:40] <ant-> hidan : thats not a crash
[05:40] <Oswy> Hey, what's that command for saving modprobe changes so that they're applied automatically at startup.
[05:40] <Oswy> ?
[05:40] <nickle98> ok thanks
[05:40] <ant-> hidan : something told it to shutdown
[05:40] <lovloss> Does anyone know what the best libraries for QT and freeglut are?
[05:40] <hidan> ant: ... ...
[05:40] <lovloss> apt-cache lists tons
[05:40] <hidan> ant: you GOTTa be kidding!
[05:40] <ant-> hidan : does it happen a lot?
[05:40] <Pelo> Oswy,  I beleive they are saved automaticaly
[05:40] <Oswy> Hmm, really?
[05:41] <craigbass1976> isn't it mod -m?  modprobe ndiswrapper adds it until reboot, but ndiswrapper -m I think makes it load permanently at boot
[05:41] <Oswy> mod m?
[05:41] <hidan> ant: no, this is the 2nd time i got a black screen and likely the first time it's "shut down"
[05:41] <Oswy> OK, thanks.
[05:41] <craigbass1976> Oswy, where mod is the name of the module.
[05:41] <Oswy> k
[05:41] <aabrahao> Hi, Ive installed ubuntu 6.10 server, and kubuntu-desktop, but in serverx I did not found webserver applications like apache, mysql, email, etc. Any tip?
[05:41] <aabrahao> I imagine the ubunru server is with all applications, dont? If dont what is the real difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[05:41] <Oswy> k, thanks.
[05:41] <hidan> ant: hmmm, perhaps i ought to disable all power management features too and also my onboard lan chip.
[05:41] <craigbass1976> Oswy, I think.  Poke aroudn the forums before you bork your box.
[05:41] <Oswy> Heh.
[05:42] <Oswy> Not that big a deal; I hardly reboot.
[05:42] <ant-> hidan : good idea
[05:42] <Joebu[NoR] > greetings, had a boot question
[05:42] <atoponce> aabrahao: the real difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is the desktop manager and window manager installed
[05:42] <SpeakerMania> Hello everyone. I have a small question
[05:42] <craigbass1976> aabrahao, I believe you have to install them.
[05:42] <aabrahao> how?
[05:42] <SpeakerMania> Where can I download LexMark printer drivers?
[05:43] <hidan> ant: yep...
[05:43] <atoponce> aabrahao: what do you want to install?
[05:43] <craigbass1976> sudo apt-get install apache (there's more to apache, but it starts with apache.  I think you hit tab twice and a list will pop up)
[05:43] <cfedde> anyone else have trouble booting ubuntu on a Panasonic Tough Book? cf-72?
[05:43] <testify> Does an error like "ata1: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }" usually mean it's uncorrectable...like REALLY uncorrectable?
[05:43] <Pelo> SpeakerMania,  aren'T they in CUPS already ?
[05:43] <SpeakerMania> Not my printer version.
[05:43] <bimberi> SpeakerMania: try searching for a PPD file via lexmark.com
[05:43] <thecort> crimsun: any ideas?
[05:43] <craigbass1976> SpeakerMania, which printer?  Lexmark I hear has been pretty good about giving their drivers to Linux folks.
[05:43] <aabrahao> the applications to use the ubuntu as webserver with mysql, etc
[05:44] <crimsun> thecort: which version of ndiswrapper is this?
[05:44] <SpeakerMania> It is an X3350
[05:44] <Pelo> testify,  I assume it would mean that it cannot be corrected by the computer at this time and needs to be corrected manaualy
[05:44] <thecort> crimsun: 1.41
[05:44] <crimsun> thecort: I've only used 1.39.
[05:44] <atoponce> aabrahao: then 'sudo aptitude install apache2 mysql5 php5' should get you started
[05:44] <craigbass1976> aabrahao,  sudo apt-get install apache (there's more to apache, but it starts with apache.  I think you hit tab twice and a list will pop up)
[05:44] <Joebu[NoR] > if I am running 4 monitors via 2 graphics cards, is it possible to have a script auto start one thing in one set of 2 monitors and another thing in the other 2?
[05:44] <hidan> ant: any specific packages you can recommend that're similar to device manager and allow to disable devices?
[05:44] <Pelo> testify,  search for the excact error msg in the forum
[05:44] <dimas> i need some help with my webcam...and i did read already the ubuntu forum
[05:44] <crimsun> thecort: I'm using i386, not amd64, BTW
[05:45] <thecort> crimsun: I've tried a couple of different versions
[05:45] <Geoffrey2> what is the linux euqivalent of ipconfig?
[05:45] <crimsun> ifconfig
[05:45] <atoponce> Geoffrey2: ifconfig
[05:45] <alexnb185> s anyone here familar with ndisgtk???
[05:45] <Steil_> does anyone use kopete with OTR?
[05:46] <aabrahao> thanks, So why I used the ubuntu server and not kubuntu?
[05:46] <thecort> crimsun: I just don't understand why bcm43xx is still showing
[05:46] <dimas> need some help with my webcam...
[05:46] <atoponce> aabrahao: if you used the ubuntu server, then apache and mysql should already be installed
[05:46] <RedPlantain> I've got a NetGear WG311v2 card in my Ubuntu box, and although I see it under ifconfig, nothing ever happens :'(
[05:46] <alexnb185> is anyone here familar wiht ndsigtk?
[05:46] <SpeakerMania> Also, is there a way to build a driver for my dial-up modem with the kernel or are my friends stupid?
[05:46] <dimas> i am using crative live cam vista
[05:46] <crimsun> thecort: is it loaded?
[05:46] <Pelo> SpeakerMania,  I suggest you try another printer selection in the lexmark list , one that is close to the printer you have ,  it doesn'T have exactly mine either (bj-230) but the bj 200 one works properly
[05:47] <RedPlantain> I've got to the point I think I can ping it, but It can't get on the net
[05:47] <thecort> crimsun: I have it blacklisted, but it shows up as alternate in ndiswrapper -l
[05:47] <SpeakerMania> Okay, thanks for the tip
[05:47] <ant-> if you can ping that means your connected
[05:47] <dimas> when i test it with camorama saids it cant connect to the video device
[05:47] <craigbass1976> SpeakerMania, linuxprinting says you have a paperweight, or did you know that already?
[05:47] <maxxism> hey all.  anyone good with NFS?   I am having some speed issues mounting NFS shares over 100MB network.  it takes over 3 minutes mount a share.  they mount and work ok.  but it never used to take this long.
[05:47] <RedPlantain> ant-: But firefox does nothing
[05:47] <dimas> what should i do?
[05:47] <ant-> maybe a firewall issue?
[05:48] <SpeakerMania> What is a paperweight?
[05:48] <crimsun> thecort: that's fine. Does it say the driver is loaded?
[05:48] <Pelo> dimas,   use the hardware manager , find where you camera is connected and check the info for the chip set ,  use that in your forum search
[05:48] <crimsun> thecort: "the driver" -> bcmwl5
[05:48] <RedPlantain> ant-: I haven't configured any firewalls :S
[05:48] <craigbass1976> maxxism, I just ran into the same problem today.  Are you mounting a big export?
[05:48] <Pelo> SpeakerMania,   a computer running  windows 2000
[05:48] <dimas> thank you pelo
[05:48] <Joebu[NoR] > how do you autostart a program, can you do it in services?
[05:48] <ant-> RedPlantain : is it wireless?
[05:48] <thecort> it says driver installed device(14E4:4311) present
[05:48] <SpeakerMania> Yes, I have two hard drives; one Windows 2K and one Ubunntu
[05:48] <maxxism> craigbass1976  one is 120GB.  the other one is 40.
[05:48] <dimas> nice to see you again
[05:48] <crimsun> thecort: ok, do you have an eth0 and an eth1?
[05:48] <craigbass1976> SpeakerMania, it's linuxprinting's nice way of saying "Forget it, it doesn't work in Linux."
[05:49] <Pelo> Joebu[NoR] ,   menu > system > prefs > sessions
[05:49] <SpeakerMania> Crap.
  I used ubuntu 6.10 server, where are apache and mysql? Is possible I did not installed it?
[05:49] <shmeelAway> hi, i'm on a laptop but want to use a external monitor, but the only way i can get to the external is by restarting, the key fnf6 won't work. can anyone helP?
[05:49] <thecort> crimsun: just lo and eth0
[05:49] <Joebu[NoR] > pelo, can i autostart in 2 different monitors?
[05:49] <maxxism> craigbass1976  i recently upgraded the client side to feisty.  the server is still edgy
[05:49] <RedPlantain> ant-: Yes
[05:49] <Pelo> Joebu[NoR] ,  no idea
[05:49] <crimsun> thecort: dpkg --print-architecture
[05:49] <Joebu[NoR] > i'll give it a try, thanks
[05:49] <Pelo> Joebu[NoR] ,  have you consulted the forum ?
[05:49] <atoponce> aabrahao: the config files are both in /etc and the binaries are in /etc/init.d
[05:49] <ant-> RedPlantain : have you looked at iwconfig to see if your associated with the ESSID
[05:49] <atoponce> aabrahao: to see if they are installed:
[05:50] <craigbass1976> maxxism, hmmm.  Well, I had the exact same setup in Fedora5 (on server and client) and today when I finally set it up again (dapper server and edgy client) it's slow as hell.
[05:50] <atoponce> aabrahao: ps aux | grep apache
[05:50] <atoponce> aabrahao: ps aux | grep mysql
[05:50] <RedPlantain> ant-: Yes, looks like I am
[05:50] <thecort> crimsun: i386
[05:50] <RedPlantain> ant-: It's even resolving the IP's not, but it never connects
[05:50] <Pelo> SpeakerMania,  I mean, you asked what a paperweight was,  answer :  a comp running win2k is a paperwieght
[05:50] <atoponce> aabrahao: if you have processes running for those binaries, then they are installed
[05:50] <RedPlantain> *now
[05:50] <maxxism> craigbass1976  yeah.  its odd.  It was wicked fast before with edgy edgy.
[05:50] <SpeakerMania> I understand...
[05:50] <craigbass1976> maxxism, I also notice real slow ssh logins at first too.  Takes forever after taking the password.  But now it's ok.
[05:50] <crimsun> thecort: ok, and `dmesg'?
[05:51] <SpeakerMania> So my printer won't work in ubuntu?
[05:51] <maxxism> craigbass1976  ssh is fine here.
[05:51] <craigbass1976> maxxism, wick fast?  Are you up here in the NE with me?
[05:51] <aj_> I am having a problem with the internet I know I am conected and fire fox lets me go to any page but when I log in it shuts down
[05:51] <RedPlantain> ant-: Never mind, I've got *something* working now :< But it's hidiously slow
[05:51] <Pelo> SpeakerMania,  try alternate models in the printer list , one of them may work
[05:51] <ant-> RedPlantain : can you ping google.com?
 Im in kde now, how Can I check if the apache and mysql are installed and running?
[05:51] <maxxism> craigbass1976  canada west
[05:51] <RedPlantain> Like, 2 minutes to load google slow
[05:51] <RedPlantain> ant-: Yes, but with huge pings :<
[05:51] <atoponce> aabrahao: i thought you installed ubuntu-server?
[05:51] <SpeakerMania> I tried all of the models, none of them worked. I'm on the Lexmark web site right now, so hang on. :)
[05:51] <craigbass1976> maxxism, I didn't know they said wicked out there too.  Us Mainahs get made fun of for it.
[05:52] <ant-> RedPlantain : maybe just a lot of noise/bad connection.. you can use iwconfig to get that info
[05:52] <maxxism> craigbass1976 funny.
[05:52] <aj_> yes I am a newbie
[05:52] <atoponce> aabrahao: even if you didn't just type the commands i just gave you: 'ps aux | grep <package_name>'
[05:52] <atoponce> aabrahao: where <package_name> = apache or mysql
[05:53] <SpeakerMania> Kidding.
[05:53] <SpeakerMania> :D
[05:53] <Pelo> thank you SpeakerMania
 installed ubuntu-6.10-server-i386.iso
[05:53] <SpeakerMania> Anytime.
[05:53] <maxxism> craigbass1976 i wonder if problem is feisty based for me..
[05:53] <ant-> tomboy...
[05:53] <atoponce> aabrahao: ok. then just type the commands i gave you
[05:53] <thecort> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13488/
[05:53] <Pelo> aj_,  what do you mean you get disconnected when you login ?
[05:54] <craigbass1976> maxxism, I don't know.  Like I said, dapper server and edgy client are slow here on mounting.  After that I'm ok, but mounting takes forever.
[05:54] <aj_> like to yahoo I signin like normal and then firefox just closes
[05:54] <Pelo> aj_,  are you using ubuntu right now to chat with us ?
[05:54] <aj_> yes
[05:55] <maxxism> craigbass1976 before it was like mounting a drive in the machine.  hmmm maybe my exports file is buggared
[05:55] <Pelo> aj_,  try reinstalling firefox from synaptic  menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager,  search for firefox and reinstall all the programs checked in green
[05:55] <Geoffrey2> atoponce, thanks :)
[05:55] <atoponce> Geoffrey2: np
[05:56] <testify> I'm having issues with a SATA drive, giving me a lot of errors on bootup and such. The most noticeable of the problems is that there is so /dev/sda1 partition for the /dev/sda device. When I fdisk /dev/sda it lists the partition, but nothing in the actual filesystem itself. Anyone have ideas?
[05:56] <Squeee> Is there a way to make fortune insult you? (or another command line program that can do it?)
[05:56] <k0rnz> can ubuntu be installed from 1 CDR disc?
[05:56] <aj_> even though I just instaled the whole ubuntu maybe three days ago
[05:56] <testify> so* no
[05:56] <crimsun> thecort: ndiswrapper version 1.22 loaded (preempt=no,smp=yes)    <-- from line 350
[05:56] <craigbass1976> maxxism, I'm not used to this weird exports (UUID blahblah) file.  I wonder if they have anything to do with it.
[05:56] <Pelo> k0rnz,  cdr disc ?
[05:56] <crimsun> thecort: that's definitely not 1.41
[05:56] <k0rnz> Can ubunu be installed from 1 CDR installer disc?
[05:56] <dimas> pelo>> this is where my cam is:Bus 001 Device 005: ID 041e:4052 Creative Technology, Ltd
[05:56] <craigbass1976> k0rnz, yep
[05:57] <Squeee> k0rnz: yes
[05:57] <thecort> crimsun: that's weird, because I just downloaded and compiled it from the website
[05:57] <k0rnz> thanks brothers
[05:57] <jay> !help
[05:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:57] <maxxism> craigbass1976 I didnt use UUID
[05:57] <Pelo> k0rnz,   ubuntu will install all defaults from one cd , other packages and uptades are available on the internet
[05:57] <maxxism> craigbass1976 I didnt use UUID's  i think thats the new fstabs
[05:58] <jay> !about
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about about - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <jay> !me
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about me - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <jay> !info
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about info - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <Pelo> jay,  please stop messing with the bot
[05:58] <atoponce> jay: can we help you?
[05:58] <Squeee> craigbass1976: I came into this conv late but if you want to generate the uuid "sudo vol_id /dev/(device)"
[05:58] <PanzerMKZ> bad bot
[05:58] <jay> yeah i waNNA KNOW WHAT THAT BOT IS
[05:58] <atoponce> jay: it's a bot
[05:58] <aabrahao> is possible install that packgages thru kde?
[05:58] <dimas> pelo i found the device..
[05:58] <dimas> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 041e:4052 Creative Technology, Ltd
[05:58] <craigbass1976> maxxism, well, I've never seen them before today.  When I went into exports I said "wtf is this" and then found out that you don't have to have that line
[05:58] <Pelo> jay, #ubuntu-uboto
[05:59] <Pelo> wrong channel
[05:59] <craigbass1976> exit
[05:59] <craigbass1976> oops, not in a terminal anymore
[05:59] <Pelo> dimas,   look that up in the forum, you should get instructions for it
[05:59] <maxxism> craigbass1976 i am gonna take another look.
[05:59] <dimas> pelo is that what you said?
[05:59] <craigbass1976> curious, does anyone use mysql a lot and find themselves ending bash commands with ; ?
[05:59] <thecort> crimsun: how can I uninstall that version of ndiswrapper?
[05:59] <SpeakerMania> Does the same CD hold both the Desktop version and the Server version?
[05:59] <Pelo> dimas,   the chipset
[05:59] <crimsun> thecort: by removing ndiswrapper*
[06:00] <dimas> the chipset?
[06:00] <thecort> crimsun: Sorry for the simple question, I haven't been using linux very long
[06:00] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell jay about yourself
[06:00] <Pelo> dimas, hold on, I will get you a link
[06:00] <maxxism> craigbass1976  yeah man.   I dont see any UUID stuff in my exports
[06:00] <jay> i want that bot
[06:00] <PanzerMKZ> !ubotu
[06:00] <Madpilot> jay, he's open-source, help yourself :)
[06:01] <jay> from where and windows comatable?
[06:01] <Pelo> dimas,   the packages listed at the top of this list , ( which you can install with synaptic)  work for all the cameras listed in hte rest of the page    http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[06:01] <kkerwin> !ubotu | jay
[06:01] <ubotu> jay: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:01] <atoponce> jay: he's a python bot, so, if python is installed on windows, not a problem
[06:02] <SpeakerMania> Does the same CD hold both the Desktop version and the Server version?
[06:02] <Madpilot> jay, check the bot's homepage, there are links there to the sourcecode repo
[06:02] <atoponce> SpeakerMania: no. it's one or the other
[06:02] <Pelo> dimas,  http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html this will also help
[06:02] <Brylie> jay: check out supybot.com
[06:02] <SpeakerMania> Where can I order the Server version? Can I get it free thu ShipIt?
[06:02] <SpeakerMania> *through
[06:03] <Pelo> SpeakerMania,  downlaod it ,  save canonical a couple of dolars,
[06:03] <kkerwin> Hmm. So it seems that python-dev doesn't actually contain header files, only python documentation. Is this correct?
[06:03] <PoofDaddy> Does anyone here use Opera?
[06:03] <kkerwin> And if so, where can I find a .deb full of python header files?
[06:03] <crimsun> kkerwin: it's a metapackage. You need python2.X-dev, where X is an integere
[06:03] <SpeakerMania> AOL will love me, what is it? 700 megs? On Dial-up? Not gonna happen.
[06:04] <atoponce> SpeakerMania: no. the shipit disks are desktop disks, afaix
[06:04] <crimsun> kkerwin: for instance, python2.4-dev, python2.5-dev, etc.
[06:04] <Pelo> kkerwin,  python website ????
[06:04] <atoponce> *afaik
[06:04] <kkerwin> crimsun: Ah-ha! Thank you very much!
[06:04] <kkerwin> Pelo: Yes, but I would like a .deb package.
[06:04] <Pelo> SpeakerMania,   try a freind maybe
[06:04] <Pelo> kkerwin,  they might have one
[06:04] <froyd> can anybody help me with media player for firefox ?
[06:04] <jay> I WANT THE BOT
[06:04] <jay> WHERE CAN I GET IT
[06:05] <Pelo> jay,  get a life
[06:05] <froyd> i always get (no video)
[06:05] <SpeakerMania> I'll hit ubuntu-colroado, FunnyLookinHat sent me some 6.10 CDs, brb
[06:05] <atoponce> jay: no caps please
[06:05] <dimas> pelo i did install spca5xx already with automatix2
[06:05] <atoponce> jay: and stay on topic
[06:05] <kkerwin> crimsun: Does that meta package automagically detect and install the headers for whichever version of python that I have?
[06:05] <crimsun> kkerwin: no.
[06:05] <Pelo> froyd,   remove the totem-mozilla package and install  mplayer-mozilla
[06:05] <crimsun> kkerwin: it's always a good idea to use python-all-dev in that case.
[06:05] <froyd> Pelo: thx ill try this
[06:05] <kkerwin> crimsun: Thank you. There is my problem. Thanks for clarifying.
[06:06] <SpeakerMania> No one on, I'll have to try again later.
[06:06] <Madpilot> jay, we've told you where to go get the bot's code. Now go fetch.
[06:06] <Pelo> dimas,  not with automatix  and you need the other one the gpca one,   also insstall camorama from synaptic that should give you an interface
[06:06] <thecort> crimsun: what do you mean when you say ndiswrapper*
[06:06] <dimas> ok
[06:06] <dimas> let me try
[06:07] <daycrawler> so who loves windows?
[06:07] <Pelo> froyd,  don't worry when it tells you that it will remove ubuntu-desktop, that's just a bogus package for installation purpose
[06:07] <crimsun> thecort: ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils, and any other packages with ndiswrapper in the package string
[06:07] <SpeakerMania> Me. It is the only fricking OS right now that supports my modem.
[06:07] <Pelo> daycrawler,   bill maybe
[06:07] <froyd> Pelo: : is it called mplayer-mozilla ?
[06:07] <froyd> cant find that package
[06:07] <daycrawler> Honestly though
[06:07] <FunnyLookinHat> SpeakerMania, still here?
[06:07] <Pelo> froyd,  might be called  mozilla-mplayer and mozilla-totem
[06:07] <daycrawler> whats so bad about mircosoft
[06:07] <daycrawler> besides
[06:07] <daycrawler> the pointless os
[06:08] <daycrawler> Oh, I have a funny story to tell you
[06:08] <kkerwin> daycrawler: Are you trying to pick a fight? Please stay on topic.
[06:08] <daycrawler> no
[06:08] <daycrawler> I have an actual funny story
[06:08] <Pelo> daycrawler,  nothing is bad about windows, it got a lot of ppl to use computers who wouldn't have otherwise, but the time as come to move on
[06:08] <atoponce> daycrawler: stay on topic
[06:08] <cfedde> "do you realy want to abort the installation?: <cancel> <quit>"
[06:08] <daycrawler> its about windows, can i share the story?
[06:08] <EADG> Anybody know of a program that will keep track of my up & download stats?
[06:08] <daycrawler> it'll take like two secs
[06:08] <Pelo> daycrawler,  #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:08] <FunnyLookinHat> !offtopic
[06:08] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:08] <forham> Hello, i have a question
[06:08] <Madpilot> daycrawler, on #ubuntu-offtopic you can tell stories, not here.
[06:09] <dimas> pelo gpca is not in synaptic
[06:09] <atoponce> daycrawler: this is an ubuntu channel, not a windows story telling channel. #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[06:09] <daycrawler> oh soz
[06:09] <daycrawler> i fucking got it ok geez
[06:09] <Pelo> dimas,  enable the extra repos,  restricted and multiverse
[06:09] <Madpilot> daycrawler, language, thanks.
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> atoponce, if SpeakerMania comes back from being AFK, tell him to ping me again in our IRC channel...  I missed him by like a minute, heh.
[06:09] <froyd> Pelo: Didnt help, still get no video :(
[06:09] <forham> hello can someone help me please
[06:09] <atoponce> FunnyLookinHat: will do
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> ty
[06:09] <atoponce> np
[06:09] <Madpilot> forham, just ask, don't ask to ask...
[06:09] <thecort> crimsun: I think I've done that, but I still see ndiswrapper version 1.22 in the dmesg
[06:10] <Pelo> froyd,  did you restart firefox ?
[06:10] <forham> I want to install ubuntu inside of vmware but i have no idea which version i should download and how to set it up so i have internet and all
[06:10] <froyd> yes sr
[06:10] <froyd> :D
[06:10] <DarkED> how can i get fstab to mount my windows ntfs partition so that i have access to read it?
[06:10] <froyd> i did about:plugins
[06:10] <froyd> and shows all kinds of plugins there
[06:10] <froyd> everything enabled
[06:10] <DarkED> i can mount it but it gives me 'permission denied' when i try to open the mount point
[06:10] <froyd> all files imtrying to play are tere
[06:10] <froyd> still shows no video
[06:10] <FunnyLookinHat> SpeakerMania, just join #ubuntu-colorado
[06:10] <froyd> only plays flash
[06:11] <Pelo> dimas,  install if from this site  http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[06:11] <forham> i downloaded the vmware appliance for ubuntu but sound and internet werent working so i want to install it inside of vmare
[06:11] <DarkED> hey forham :) just get ubuntu 6.10 Edgy
[06:11] <Pelo> froyd,  did you install the codecs ?
[06:11] <forham> hey dark_light
[06:11] <forham> DarkED,
[06:11] <forham> lol
[06:11] <froyd> yes sr Pelo, i can play anything in almost all players
[06:11] <DarkED> forham, or 7.04 if you want to be bleeding edge beta
[06:11] <Crazytom> DarkED, use these parameterssudo mount -t smbfs //dysfunctional/Downloads /mnt/downloads -o username=you,password=password
[06:11] <trenton> DarkED: sounds like you don't have the permission settings right on the mount point. Try changing them
[06:11] <froyd> just can get toplay as plugin in firefox
[06:11] <froyd> :(
[06:11] <crimsun> thecort: err, then it's not possible for you to have fully removed all the older versions
[06:12] <Pelo> froyd,  I am lost , try asking in #mplayer  maybe they have an idea
[06:12] <DarkED> Crazytom, i could try that but i want to do it in fstab
[06:12] <mdasilva> man postfix is so much better then sendmail
[06:12] <mdasilva> i hope sendmail gets lost in the woods
[06:12] <forham> i dont need bleeding edge hehe i just want ubuntu for vmware because it gives almost native speeds as opposed to kubuntu and other distros plus i like that orange theme
[06:12] <DarkED> trenton, yes, what should i have for the switch? ro,user=darked ?
[06:12] <forham> its very nice
[06:12] <forham> ubuntu is really well made
[06:12] <Crazytom> DarkED, there is a good tutorial for that let me find it
[06:12] <thecort> crimsun: I'm not sure where else to look. I did a make uninstall and an apt-get remove(having tried the apt-get version before
[06:12] <Pelo> ok sorry folks but I gotta go,  see you all tomorrow
[06:12] <Pelo> g'night
[06:13] <forham> Pelo are you a penguin?
[06:13] <froyd> Pelo:  thx dude
[06:13] <forham> a real life one?
[06:13] <noodles12> i do " sudo ifdown eth1" to try and turn off my wireless but it says "ifdown: interface eth1 not configured"    .   When i right click my network manager adn turn off wireless networking. the light on my laptop for wireless is still on so i am not sure if wireless is really off or not.
[06:13] <DarkED> forham, yeah, go with 6.10 Edgy then. I'm not sure whether you want the livecd or the alternate though
[06:13] <Pelo> forham,  a penguin ?
[06:13] <forham> lol your nick
[06:13] <forham> reminds me of a penguin
[06:13] <Crazytom> DarkED, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[06:13] <forham> i have an active imagination |Pelo
[06:13] <Pelo> forham,  explain that one to me
[06:13] <trenton> sounds like Crazytom has a link to get ya going.
[06:13] <forham> i mean it well though :)
[06:13] <DarkED> Crazytom, thanks :)
[06:13] <SpeakerMania> I'm off, thanks for the help
[06:14] <Crazytom> np
[06:14] <forham> to much absinthe
[06:14] <forham> ;o
[06:14] <DarkED> Crazytom, whoa, no not samba :)
[06:14] <DarkED> i dont want to network them - it's a local ntfs partition
[06:14] <forham> lol
[06:14] <forham> he pm'd me
[06:14] <DarkED> ubuntu just wont let me access it once it's mounted
[06:14] <forham> funny
[06:14] <Crazytom> DarkED, oh sorry hold on
[06:15] <EADG> noodles12: type ifconfig that should tell you if yer wireless is on or off.
[06:15] <forham> ok may i ask another question is it possible to install ubuntu inside of parallels on vista?
[06:15] <DarkED> Crazytom, no problem, sorry, and thanks heh
[06:16] <DarkED> forham, i'm not sure but i don't see why not
[06:16] <trenton> DarkED: here is a link to ntfs-config ...use that and it'll have you set up.   http://flomertens.free.fr/ntfs-config/
[06:16] <DarkED> forham, if you want to do that, why not just install ubuntu to a real partition?
[06:16] <DarkED> forham, it only NEEDS about 10gig total
[06:17] <sciron> and run windows as a vmware server...
[06:17] <forham> because i want to run it on one side of my cube :)
[06:17] <forham> in vista
[06:17] <DarkED> trenton, hey thanks! isn't this for NTFS-3g?
[06:17] <sciron> forham: your cube?
[06:17] <DarkED> forham, meh, thats overrated ;)
[06:17] <Crazytom> DarkED, i believe there is a flag to mount a partition under a certain users id
[06:17] <dimas> dont know how to change repositories properties
[06:18] <trenton> DarkED: err, it's the package ntfs-config ....i don't know what 3g is, sorry lol
[06:18] <ant-> !ntfs-3g
[06:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[06:18] <trenton> ah ok
[06:18] <trenton> :)
[06:18] <dimas> pelo are you still around?
[06:18] <atoponce> nope. he left
[06:19] <trenton> hrm, yep it is
[06:19] <chasetoys> how do i make a terminal window appear at startup
[06:19] <atoponce> chasetoys: add it to System -> Preference -> Sessions
[06:19] <sciron> how do you configure a remote desktop server w/ Ubuntu that ISNT slow..like the vino one that comes on it
[06:19] <DarkED> trenton, read the page - this is for the ntfs-3g driver, which only enables write support for ntfs
[06:19] <chasetoys> atoponce: but what is the program name for the terminal
[06:19] <chasetoys> if i run 'terminal' inside a terminal, nothing happens
[06:19] <DarkED> trenton, it wont solve my permission issue :)
[06:20] <atoponce> chasetoys: gnome-terminal or konsole depending on if you're running ubuntu or kubuntu respectively
[06:20] <dimas> he told me to install gpca drve from syniptic but i dont find it
[06:20] <DarkED> trenton, not sure what you know about it but it's only for configuring the ntfs-3g driver :)
[06:20] <sciron> how to speed up vnc server, vino?
[06:21] <dub> what package provides 'mail
[06:21] <DarkED> if someone could just copy and paste the relevant line out of their fstab i'd be set :)
[06:21] <bimberi> dub: mailx
[06:21] <bulmer> sciron have you tried freeNX ? they are fast
[06:21] <RedPlantain> How do I upgrade to a more appropriate kernel? (Instead of generic, P4 for example?)
[06:21] <sciron> freenx?  Ill check it out now
[06:21] <dub> thanks
[06:21] <bimberi> !freenx
[06:21] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[06:21] <thecort> crimsun: I've got it to say driver installed hardware present only
[06:23] <Crazytom> DarkED, look at man mount under the flag -U
[06:23] <trenton> check out this page...this guy explains how to get it set up for ya on permissions and such:  http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/58921-fstab-entry-windows-partition.html
[06:23] <verma> anybody running firefox32 on amd64 here ?
[06:23] <DarkED> Crazytom, okay, will do so now, one sec
[06:23] <Crazytom> DarkED, UUID=C098C03F98C03626 /mnt/hda1       ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:24] <trenton> DarkED: did ya get that link....they have everything needed in it
[06:24] <thecort> crimsun: I now get an error when I try to modprobe
[06:24] <DarkED> awesome, got it!
[06:25] <hidan> ant: okay bah i've done enough troubleshooting for now. hopefuly, i can find a solution 'cos from searching on the net, i found that everyone who's getting error 15 messages are having different problems.
[06:25] <PoofDaddy> Lexmark X2350.  Can anyone help me to install it.  Do i need the original installation CD for this?
[06:25] <DarkED> thanks everyone :)
[06:25] <zyth> PoofDaddy, ummm
[06:25] <ant-> hidan : yea from what i know the 15 is a code for a "clean" shutdown, as opposed to an ugly one (crash)
[06:26] <Cheyenne> Does anyone have an easy to follow Samba Setup Guide?
[06:26] <meme4> Hello, I am having a problem with the GUI login (ubuntu). The GUI login no longer recognizes my account OR the admin account. Just flashes the screen and asks the question again. I can open a terminal session and login. However, starting gnome-terminal gives a "cannot open display" warning. Any hints about what happened and how to fix?
[06:26] <zyth> PoofDaddy, Lexmark x2350
[06:26] <zyth> Color inkjet printer, this is a Paperweight 	- doesn't work in linux
[06:26] <zyth> PoofDaddy, http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-x2350
[06:26] <Crazytom> Cheyenne, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[06:26] <hidan> ant: too bad ubuntu dapper doesn't have more comprehensive logs.
[06:26] <PoofDaddy> zyth: I looked at a tutrial a while ago and I can't find it again, but this model was not on the list of supprted printers
[06:26] <ant-> hidan did you check dmesg?
[06:26] <Crazytom> how do i pipe a !samba to someone?
[06:26] <zyth> PoofDaddy, that printer is listed as NOT working in Linux.
[06:27] <bimberi> Crazytom: !samba | nick
[06:27] <trenton> here's a q all, i'm currently using grip to rip and encode my cd's to mp3 ....when i try to use soundjuicer or rythmbox, it'll make the mp3 files, but it doesn't hadd the id3 tags, and the file is unplayable in any player. here is what i was using...maybe i have it set wrong?   audio/x-raw-int, rate=44100, channels=2 ! lame name=enc vbr=0 bitrate=320 ! id3v2mux
[06:28] <TaintedWorks> i cant get my laptop running ubuntu edgy eft to connect through the integrated wireless
[06:28] <Crazytom> bimberi, i meant in a priv message... how do you do that
[06:28] <PoofDaddy> Thats what I thought.  On the tutorial, i read that i could install the drivers with the install CD, but it was not recommended.
[06:28] <ant-> hidan : that or /var/log/auth.log
[06:28] <bimberi> Crazytom: !samba > nick
[06:28] <aj_> I am having a problem with logging into secure sites through firefox I have a fresh install. and just reinstalled the firefox w/synaptic anyone have any ideas
[06:28] <Crazytom> thanks
[06:28] <PoofDaddy> zyth Thats what I thought. On the tutorial, i read that i could install the drivers with the install CD, but it was not recommended.
[06:28] <hidan> ant: oh, i'm looking now at dmesg. auth.log didn't have anything.
[06:29] <Crazytom> !samba > Cheyenne
[06:29] <PoofDaddy> zyth: Is there any hope or do i have to boot to Wind-Blows to use it?
[06:29] <zyth> PoofDaddy, I don't see any way windows printer drivers would function in linux
[06:29] <ant-> hidan : dmesg is for the current time, dmesg just reads whats in /var/log/messages
[06:29] <hidan> ant: ahhhh so i'm supposed to look at messages.log then ?
[06:29] <hatdragon_> my feisty install autodetected the wireless card on my Thinkpad t40 laptop as an Atheros card, so it automatically enabled the restricted driver; however, my wireless nic shouldn't be an atheros
[06:29] <ant-> hidan : yes maam, its all the messages the kernel spits out
[06:30] <ant-> hidan : although i dont know that it will help you
[06:30] <arooni> what is the best way of accesing my gmail when i'm offline?
[06:30] <sciron> how is feisty, btw
[06:30] <PoofDaddy> zyth: I'm pretty new to Linux, but how do I know in the future that hardware is compatible or not with Linux, other than having Tux on the package?
[06:30] <TaintedWorks> i cant get onto my wireless network using ubuntu edgy eft and i need help configuring it (essid: MayberryLand no security)
[06:30] <atoponce> arooni: setting access to your gmail with a mail client, like thunderbird
[06:30] <trenton> arooni: use it as a pop3 account
[06:30] <arooni> ok this begs the question:  which is the BEST outlook replacement
[06:30] <arooni> for linux?
[06:31] <meme4> PoofDaddy: Lots of trouble with FF here too! Esp. ASP - Active-X type sites.
[06:31] <berent> !sendmail
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sendmail - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <zyth> PoofDaddy, there are online databases that list known working hardware; actually, except for printers, more stuff works than doesn't.  HP is a good supporter of linux printing, btw
[06:31] <atoponce> arooni: either thunderbird or evolution
[06:31] <hidan> ant: yeah well... there wasn't anything useful in messages.log other than the error messages i already saw in syslog
[06:31] <zyth> 
[06:31] <ant-> TaintedWorks : what wireless card do you have?
[06:31] <arooni> syncing with ical ... contacts, email everything
[06:31] <atoponce> arooni: probably leaning towards evolution too
[06:31] <trenton> arooni: well, i use evolution...
[06:31] <sciron> poofdaddy: http://www.linux.org/vendor/hardware/index.html
[06:31] <atoponce> although i like thunderbird better
[06:31] <berent> i am unable to send messages with sendmail from php.i get no error but no mail is sent
[06:31] <arooni> awesome
[06:31] <noodles12> !networkmanager
[06:31] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[06:31] <TaintedWorks> ant: hp built in wireless
[06:31] <arooni> man i love the knowledge here
[06:32] <ant-> TaintedWorks : you need to know your chipset
[06:32] <ant-> !wifi | TaintedWorks
[06:32] <ubotu> TaintedWorks: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:32] <meme4> Hello, I am having a problem with the GUI login (ubuntu). The GUI login no longer recognizes my account OR the admin account. Just flashes the screen and asks the question again. I can open a terminal session and login. However, starting gnome-terminal gives a "cannot open display" warning. Any hints about what happened and how to fix?
[06:32] <|rt|> noodles12: in feisty networkmanager makes networking just break :)
[06:32] <berent> i am unable to send messages with sendmail from php.i get no error but no mail is sent
[06:32] <TaintedWorks> ant: broadcom 4311 is what it says the name is
[06:32] <|rt|> noodles12: but feisty is still in beta for a reason
[06:32] <noodles12> meme4: that happend to me, you might not have any memory left?
[06:32] <ant-> TaintedWorks : you have to use ndiswrapper
[06:33] <ant-> !bcm43xx | TaintedWorks
[06:33] <ubotu> TaintedWorks: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[06:33] <aabrahao> Can I use kubuntu and install packages instead of ubuntu?
[06:33] <noodles12> |rt|: i see. networkmanager works great in edgy for me =). I am really looking forward to fiesty. I hope it fixes a lot of the annoyances i have with linux in general.
[06:33] <sciron> yes
[06:33] <mzuverink> Anyone know how to make conky not disappear when you hit show desktop?
[06:33] <trenton> aabrahao: yep
[06:33] <ant-> TaintedWorks goto that link
[06:33] <brasael> Hello
[06:33] <LinuxProbie> Hey, I got the following error when trying to run the touchpad thing I just installed:
[06:33] <LinuxProbie> GSynaptics couldn't initialize.
[06:33] <LinuxProbie> You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics
[06:33] <loretta> The only thing rite now is firefox will not load web pages and Konquor will not play the FOX NEWS Video Player
  so why ubuntu?
[06:33] <ant-> hidan : can i have that error again?
[06:33] <TaintedWorks> ant: that's not working for me
[06:33] <|rt|> noodles12: yeah in feisty at the moment for some reason networkmanager takes down a perfectly good wireless connection on boot
[06:34] <TaintedWorks> er
[06:34] <ant-> TaintedWorks : thats the best i can do
[06:34] <TaintedWorks> nvm
[06:34] <meme4> noodle12: no memory is fine in my case. HD >2gb
[06:34] <berent> i am unable to send messages with sendmail from php.i get no error but no mail is sent
[06:34] <hidan> ant: hang on.
[06:34] <TaintedWorks> i havent tried the last thing you said
[06:34] <LinuxProbie> so I added the following line: "Option		"SHMConfig"		"true"" in xorg conf under the synaptics touchpad.
[06:34] <trenton> aabrahao: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde ...just a personal choose
[06:34] <loretta> and other web pages wont work with wireless card
[06:34] <LinuxProbie> but it didn't work
[06:34] <|rt|> noodles12: you have to do some hoop jumping to get the connection working again...or just uninstall networkmanager
[06:34] <sciron> how to get fglrx drivers working w/ x1950 pro?
[06:34] <hidan> ant: Apr  2 09:37:39 lucifiel syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.
[06:34] <hidan> Apr  2 09:37:39 lucifiel anacron[4917] : Job `cron.daily' terminated
[06:34] <hidan> Apr  2 09:37:39 lucifiel anacron[4917] : Normal exit (1 job run)
[06:34] <loretta> this xchat works
[06:34] <hidan> ant: that's from syslog
[06:35] <noodles12> |rt|: Otherthan that, i hear the way codecs are installed is kind of nice. You play the file and if you don't have the driver's something will pop up telling you how to install it?
 how start gnome? before install kde I tryed startx but nothin happened?
[06:35] <loretta> hhhhheeeeeelllllp
[06:35] <NickGarvey> loretta: not the way to get attention
[06:35] <loretta> this xchat works
[06:35] <loretta> The only thing rite now is firefox will not load web pages and Konquor will not play the FOX NEWS Video Player
[06:35] <trenton> aabrahao: ok...are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[06:35] <|rt|> noodles12: I've heard that but i upgraded from edgy which had all the codecs already taken care of so I haven't run into that situation with feisty
[06:35] <berent> i am unable to send messages with sendmail from php.i get no error but no mail is sent
[06:35] <loretta> and other web pages wont work with wireless card
[06:35] <PoofDaddy> What's the best program on Gnome to use for ripping CDx?
[06:35] <ant-> blah
[06:35] <zyth> loretta, good, fox news is evil.
[06:36] <meme4> aabrahao: gnome-terminal
[06:36] <loretta> the other thingy is that i cant do my online banking
[06:36] <meme4> PoofDaddy: K3D
[06:36] <noodles12> |rt|: is networking with window shares made easier? kind of automatic?
[06:36] <|rt|> noodles12: feisty is looking to be a good release though once they get a couple of issues worked out
[06:36] <aabrahao> Im using ubuntu, but I need to install kde, apache, mysql, php, usualy how start gnome?
[06:37] <loretta> Firefox is useless
[06:37] <|rt|> noodles12: not sure....i could test that but the only share i access I already have mapped to the desktop on my laptop
[06:37] <NickGarvey> thats the additude..
[06:37] <loretta> only Konquor works some what good for som web pages
[06:37] <mzuverink> PoofDaddy, go to mrbass.com and follow the instructions for dvdshrink and decrypter, it uses wine but works well.  make sure if you install it, and dont have wine to run winecfg first
[06:37] <PoofDaddy> meme4: Splendid!  I already have it.
[06:37] <LinuxProbie> loretta, do you have flash and java installed?
[06:38] <trenton> aabrahao: http://library.n0i.net/linux-unix/applications/x/gnome/faq/x503.html
[06:38] <loretta> yes
[06:38] <trenton> aabrahao: that'll tell ya
[06:38] <PoofDaddy> mzuverink: I've used DVD shrink on Wind-Blows.  But it works for CDs as well?
[06:38] <noodles12> |rt|: i see. Are they still on schedule for a release on april 19th? 29th? ( forgot which one?). I guess i can wait and find out. i'm currently just opening up smb4k everytime i access my window shares
[06:38] <Daverocks> PoofDaddy: did you want to rip music CDs?
[06:38] <otakumark> How do I use a .run file?
[06:38] <mzuverink> PoofDaddy, sorry misread, for cd the best in my opinion is grip
[06:38] <meme4> PoofDaddy: Sorry, I cannot remember if K3D rips.  But it is the best for general burning CD/DVD.  I can't confirm right now because I can't get into ubuntu!
[06:38] <|rt|> noodles12: I'm assuming they are still on schedule
[06:39] <NickGarvey> otakumark: chmod +x file.run
[06:39] <NickGarvey> otakumark: ./file.run
[06:39] <Daverocks> otakumark: chmod a+x whatever.run && ./whatever.run
[06:39] <loretta> i actually am using Mepis 6.5rc3 and the wireless card is working pretty good except for browesing
[06:39] <Daverocks> SteveRocks: grip is great for music CDs.
[06:39] <noodles12> mzuverink: if they are ripping the image. can't you just right click and select copy to image?
[06:39] <otakumark> thankies
[06:40] <SteveRocks> Daverocks mzuverink meme4 : I want to rip, not burn.
[06:40] <loretta> it uses Ubuntu stuff rite?
[06:40] <Daverocks> SteveRocks: yes, grip rips audio off music CDs.
[06:40] <aabrahao> I need to make a new installation, Is better install kubuntu instead of unbutu?
[06:40] <mzuverink> noodles12, rip to mp3...or burn mp3s to disk?
[06:40] <bimberi> aabrahao: if you want kde, then yes
[06:40] <enajeirak> Hello, I was here earlier having a problem updating my ubuntu to xumbuntu....anyone have time to assist me?
[06:40] <loretta> aabra was that ment for me
[06:40] <meme4> PoofDaddy: I wouldn't call Windows "winblows" I am having more luck with Windows XP than I am with Linix. I can't load the GUI anymore... worse.... no one seems to know why! At least with Windows, I've never come across a problem I could not solve.
[06:41] <Daverocks> meme4: X doesn't start?
[06:41] <bimberi> !ask | enajeirak
[06:41] <ubotu> enajeirak: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:41] <mzuverink> PoofDaddy, which is it?
[06:41] <enajeirak> okay...sorry
[06:41] <noodles12> mzuverink: oh. ignore my comment. that was just to rip as an image. not as mp3 to disc sorry.
[06:41] <enajeirak> i asked my computer to install it and it says that it cannot find it...it is on a dvd i received from the linux store
[06:42] <RoundyT1> i can't see my gpg keys...
[06:42] <aabrahao> thank all, bye
[06:42] <SteveRocks> meme4: my friend DaveSucks told me that same thing about K3D and he likes Grip.
[06:42] <enajeirak> I cannot seem to install it off the desktop when i run it live...the computer locs up on me
[06:42] <loretta> gota go have had fun with linux but MS Windows XP Home Edition Rules
[06:42] <Daverocks> loretta: at least get XP pro, lol
[06:42] <Daverocks> loretta: it's a lot better than home
[06:42] <RoundyT1> when i type "gpp --list-keys" nothing happens
[06:42] <loretta> got that too
[06:43] <mzuverink> PoofDaddy, after installing grip google ubuntuforums grip, a good howto to make quality mp3s, vbr the works, the default is cbr, unless you are a lame guru then Ill just shut up
[06:43] <RoundyT1> any reason for that?
[06:43] <hidan> oh dear, where did ant go?
[06:43] <Steil_> anyone offer advice for siphoning gas?
[06:43] <Daverocks> RoundyT1: you mean "gpg"?
[06:43] <SteveRocks> meme4: i changed my name from PoofDaddy.  but I;m in the same chalupa as far as having troubles with Penguins.
[06:43] <RoundyT1> Daverocks, yes
[06:43] <loretta> well do Just i got the HP omnibook 4150 and its old but still runs
[06:43] <genii> Steil_: Don't swallow any
[06:43] <ant-> hidan : do you have any cron jobs going?
[06:43] <Daverocks> RoundyT1: k, just checking you had the right binary. :P i don't know much about gpg
[06:44] <SteveRocks> mzuverink: keep talking, no guru here.
[06:44] <bimberi> enajeirak: it's not clear what you are doing.  The way to install xubuntu on an existing installation is to install the xubuntu-desktop metapackage
[06:44] <mzuverink> loretta, hp laptops seem to run for ever and run linux quite nicely
[06:44] <enajeirak> yes...i tried that...in the command line
[06:44] <hidan> ant: cron jobs, uhmmm do i check for them from logs?
[06:44] <loretta> yes i a gree some what
[06:44] <RoundyT1> when i type "gpg --list-keys" nothing happens  Anyone want to help?
[06:44] <enajeirak> bimberi..i did "sudo apt-get install xumbuntu-desktop"
[06:45] <enajeirak> that did not work.
[06:45] <mzuverink> SteveRocks, ubuntuforums has an entry on how to comfigure grip the right way, read the whole thread though
[06:45] <loretta> why cant i get the browsers to work rite with wireless card
[06:45] <bimberi> enajeirak: 'did not work' is very vague
[06:45] <berent> does sendmail requires some daemon to run to send mails
[06:45] <berent> does sendmail requires some daemon to run to send mails
[06:45] <berent> does sendmail requires some daemon to run to send mails
[06:45] <SteveRocks> mzuverink: i don't know how to read.
[06:45] <hidan> ant: Apr  2 09:37:39 lucifiel syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart.
[06:45] <hidan> Apr  2 09:37:39 lucifiel anacron[4917] : Job `cron.daily' terminated
[06:45] <hidan> Apr  2 09:37:39 lucifiel anacron[4917] : Normal exit (1 job run)
[06:45] <hidan> Apr  2 09:38:12 lucifiel dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
[06:45] <hidan> Apr  2 09:38:18 lucifiel dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 10
[06:45] <loretta> i can down load files
[06:45] <thecort> crimsun: are you still here?
[06:45] <RoundyT1> !repeat | berent
[06:45] <ubotu> berent: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:45] <ant-> hidan : it would be crontab, i would look it up to learn a little about it, basically it schedules tasks for your computer to do automitically, maybe something is running and shutting down.
[06:45] <Madpilot> !paste | hidan
[06:45] <ubotu> hidan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <mzuverink> SteveRocks, sol then,lol
[06:46] <berent> !patience
[06:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <enajeirak> bimberi-it says couldnt find package xumbuntu-desktop
[06:46] <brasael> Hello world
[06:46] <SteveRocks> mzuverink: i'll get my highly paid interpreter.
[06:46] <berent> !patience
[06:46] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:46] <bimberi> enajeirak: xubuntu-desktop (no "m")
[06:46] <mzuverink> anyone ever install an sl-modem and actually get it to work, and if so got a few minutes?
[06:47] <meme4> Hello, I am having a problem with the GUI login (ubuntu). The GUI login no longer recognizes my account OR the admin account. Just flashes the screen and asks the question again. I can open a terminal session and login. However, starting gnome-terminal gives a "cannot open display" warning. Any hints about what happened and how to fix? So far, no one seems to know.
[06:47] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, the package should be xubuntu-deskto
[06:47] <berent> does sendmail requires some daemon to run to send mails
[06:47] <loretta> !patience
[06:47] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:47] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, the package should be xubuntu-desktop
[06:47] <loretta> !patience
[06:47] <Draconicus> What's the channel for Feisty discussion?
[06:47] <enajeirak> roundy and bemberi oh yes...sorry i mistyped on this skreen
[06:47] <otakumark> Are there non-FGLRX drivers for ati cards that have opengl and 3d acceleration?
[06:47] <loretta> !patience
[06:47] <mzuverink> Draconicus, #ubuntu+1
[06:47] <berent> ok loretta
[06:47] <Draconicus> Oh. Right.
[06:47] <Draconicus> I remember that from Dapper. :P
[06:47] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, im a noob, ha, i've done that many times.
[06:47] <enajeirak> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop is what i typed in command line
[06:48] <RoundyT1> when i type "gpg --list-keys" nothing happens  Anyone want to help?
[06:48] <mzuverink> Draconicus, always the same for upcoming releases
[06:48] <Crazytom> does the bot not respond if you're not registered?
[06:48] <thepumpkin1979> goodnight everyone!
[06:48] <loretta> did you read what i have problem with
[06:48] <berent> what problem do u have loretta. pm me
[06:49] <mzuverink> !topic
[06:49] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[06:49] <enajeirak> does anyone think I got a bad dvd from linux store??
[06:49] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, where did you get the DVD exactly?
[06:50] <enajeirak> the linux store online.. i have a slow interned connection so i couldnt download it
[06:50] <berent> does sendmail requires some daemon to run to send mails
[06:50] <berent> does sendmail requires some daemon to run to send mails
[06:50] <bulmer> yes
[06:50] <ant-> berent : quit spamming and just google it
[06:50] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, I used "ShipIt" and i got them a few weeks later...I now have around 20 ubuntu 6.06 disks just lying around :-D
[06:50] <berent> bulmer - which daemon
[06:50] <bulmer> man sendmail
[06:51] <tombow> does apache requires some daemon to run to serve web pages?
[06:51] <berent> bulmer - is it smtpd?
[06:51] <illwolf> hi i have just installed my new kernel 2.6.20 now how do i  apply the 20.6.20.1 patch to it?
[06:51] <thunderbolt> tombow: Yes, httpd.
[06:51] <RoundyT1> tombow, i don't think it does...mine just work (i use wordpress - sudoaptget.com)
[06:51] <enajeirak> roundyt1...Yeah..i have alot of those too but i got the edgy disk so i could get xumbuntu, its aparently lighter...but i am having alot of trouble accually upgrading to it
[06:51] <foutrelis> good morning :)
[06:52] <berent> bulmer - is it smtpd?
[06:52] <k0rnz> does ubuntu desktop version come with cd/dvd burning program preinstalled?
[06:52] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, i should just download it and send it to you. It would be faster haha.
[06:52] <thunderbolt> berent: smtpd is the postfix daemon.
[06:52] <enajeirak> roundtyt1..so you think i have a bad disk then???
[06:52] <loretta> gota go be back tomorrow maybe
[06:52] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, its possible but i wouldn't count on it.
[06:53] <bulmer> berent sendmail
[06:53] <loretta> GOD BLESS ALL HERE TILL THE NEXT TIME
[06:53] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, course i've never bought from Linux store, so im not exactly sure.
[06:53] <illwolf> hi i have just installed my new kernel 2.6.20 now how do i  apply the 20.6.20.1 patch to it?
[06:53] <enajeirak> roundyt1..yeah it runs on live...just reaaaaaaallly slow..but this computer usually dosnt have speed issues.
[06:53] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, how much ram does it have/
[06:54] <berent> thunderbolt - then why my sendmail queues up(have checked with mailq)- but mail doesnt reach destination
[06:54] <berent> bulmer and thunderbolt
[06:54] <hidan> ant: okay thank you so much for your help . i'll go look up crontab later. for now, my head is spinning... @__@ i really did a lot of configuring in ubuntu and learning about command lines in the previous 2 days.
[06:54] <berent> ??
[06:54] <k0rnz> does ubuntu desktop come with preinstalled cd/dvd burner?
[06:54] <enajeirak> roundyt1...no clue..i dont remember and i dont know how to check on ubuntu.
[06:54] <raecchi_> Can anyone rec a program that opens .doc files besides openoffice?
[06:54] <RoundyT1> oh, i should know the command
[06:54] <foutrelis> raecchi_: Abiword maybe
[06:54] <k0rnz> microsoft word does that
[06:55] <thunderbolt> raecchi_: Openoffice does the best job, abiword takes less ram, though.
[06:55] <k0rnz> and i think wordpad
[06:55] <Nergar> how can i unistall a .rpm???
[06:55] <modology> hi
[06:55] <k0rnz> rpm -e program
[06:55] <Daverocks> raecchi_: i think there's a command-line .doc viewer called antiword... but i recommend openoffice.org ;)
[06:56] <Nergar> i can use the rpm command in ubuntu??
[06:56] <raecchi_> Thanks -- I just want something that isn't an msword clone
[06:56] <modology> I dont think so
[06:56] <thecort> hey anyone, how do I reinstall the kernel source?
[06:56] <foutrelis> Nergar: No. How did you install a rpm in the first place?
[06:56] <az-ubuntu> can anybody tell me why sounds get distorted when I play or record midi in rosegarden ? i am using timidity and jack is not running
[06:56] <Daverocks> Nergar: well, it's assumed you have "rpm" installed on ubuntu if you installed an rpm on ubuntu
[06:57] <Nergar> foutrelis, alien -i package
[06:57] <genii> Nergar You are best to find a .deb package first. If you can't find a .deb package then compile from source. If no source is available the very last resort would be some rpm file installed with Alien
[06:57] <aabrahao> Hi again, I installed php5, apache2 and mysql-server, but I cant find then in kde
[06:57] <foutrelis> Nergar: I have used alien to convert a rpm to deb.
[06:57] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, type free -m in a console
[06:57] <enajeirak> well...if no one can help me with my xubuntu issue maybe you guys know what the linux version of photoshop is??
[06:57] <thunderbolt> enajeirak: The GIMP.
[06:57] <modology> -__
[06:57] <Daverocks> enajeirak: gimp?
[06:57] <EADG> gimp
[06:57] <modology> GIMp
[06:57] <enajeirak> oh cool thanks
[06:57] <modology> or you can try AMAZON PAINT 3D
[06:57] <bulmer> aabrahao: you installed those and you expect them to be where?
[06:57] <modology> which is commercial version
[06:58] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, Gimp and Inkscape is pretty sweet to
[06:58] <Nergar> genii, well, now i realize why alien is the last resort
[06:58] <Daverocks> inkscape is great for vector graphics
[06:58] <enajeirak> roundy...sorry to sound stupid but what is a console?
[06:58] <posingaspopular> enajeirak,
[06:58] <Daverocks> enajeirak: a terminal which usually runs a command-line shell like bash
[06:58] <modology> is that Inkscape formal sefl is derived from XARA XTREME?
[06:58] <enajeirak> ahhh gocha
[06:58] <posingaspopular> what Daverocks said
[06:58] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, no problem...its late right? haha. ... terminal is the Proper term im sorry
[06:59] <genii> Nergar: :)
[06:59] <bulmer> enajeirak: in the golden days, there were such thing as terminals with basically a keyboard and monitor attached to the main computer via serial ports
[06:59] <Nergar> ok, but how do i unistall a rpm installed with alien???
[06:59] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, it should show the "total" amount
[06:59] <enajeirak> roundy..here is what i got =total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:59] <enajeirak> Mem:           124        121          2          0          4         60
[06:59] <enajeirak> -/+ buffers/cache:         56         67
[06:59] <enajeirak> Swap:          352         70        282
 in kde
[06:59] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, haha, next time....use a pastebin...
[07:00] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, you know what that is?
[07:00] <Nergar> enajeirak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:00] <Cheyenne> When I try to add a new user to my Samba Shares I get a Can not connect to unix- something message, What can I do?
 where are there?
[07:00] <Zenerek> quick question, I changed kernels from 386 to 686 and now the tty device is gone,no prob i can reinstall that except that some or all(can't remember) of the drivers say 386, will i have to download all new new drivers for 686?and will it be for just my modem or every otherdriver or package that that came from a package with 386 in the title?
[07:00] <enajeirak> looks like memory...
[07:00] <Daverocks> Cheyenne: could you be more specific about what the message says? ;)
[07:00] <bulmer> aabrahao: in kde? kde is a desktop manager..you have to use find or locate to locate those files
[07:00] <Cheyenne> Daverocks: Give me a min to post it.
[07:00] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, it looks like you're only running 128...so running a live cd is gonna kill performance and speed
[07:00] <Daverocks> Cheyenne: k
[07:01] <enajeirak> ah ha!!
[07:01] <enajeirak> what is that swap 352 mean????
[07:01] <enajeirak> did i split my computer in half when i installed ubuntu??
[07:01] <Madpilot> What file format is Epiphany looking for when you try to import bookmarks "From File"?
[07:01] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, do you know what Page File is in Windows?
[07:01] <Daverocks> Zenerek: 386 drivers _should_ work under a 686 kernel, but it would be preferable to get 686
[07:01] <Nergar> enajeirak, swap partition
[07:01] <bulmer> Zenerek: there should be a MAKEDEV in the /dev/ directory
[07:01] <Nergar> !swap
[07:01] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[07:01] <enajeirak> right....the partition its coming back to me now
[07:02] <genii> Daverocks: Well, I have some restricted drivers that only like a 386 kernel. Agere modem drivers for instance
[07:02] <enajeirak> roundy..page file..refresh me
[07:02] <Zenerek> what do you mean bulmer?
[07:02] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, it is kind of a "save" or "cache" area, that is somewhat used for a temporary "ram" setup...but that's a very bad explanation
[07:02] <Daverocks> genii: ohh. hmm.
[07:02] <Varsendaggr> ubuntu chat room !help
[07:02] <Varsendaggr> !
[07:02] <Nergar> how do i tell ubotu to say soemthing to someone?
[07:02] <bulmer> Zenerek look for the file /dev/MAKEDEV and then run it
[07:03] <enajeirak> roundy...i think i can comprehend what your trying to convey
[07:03] <maxagaz> is there a nice soft on ubuntu to compare two text file ?
[07:03] <foutrelis> Nergar: Write !something | someone
[07:03] <foutrelis> :)
[07:03] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, it uses the hard drive instead of the RAM itself
[07:03] <Daverocks> Nergar: !command | nick    to publicly say it, addressed to them, or !command > nick   to PM it to them
[07:03] <Nergar> foutrelis, thanx
[07:03] <bulmer> maxagaz: use diff
[07:03] <Nergar> thanx Daverocks
[07:04] <enajeirak> roundy..so what your trying to tell me is that there is no way to install this from the live version right?
[07:04] <anonymeeee> I'm trying to get console access to a cisco box using a console cable plugged into a db9 connector on my computer....
[07:04] <bulmer> maxagaz: it is also used for patches
[07:04] <anonymeeee> anyone know how to adjust the terminal settings to make it talk to my router?
[07:04] <foutrelis> g2g bye :)
[07:04] <bulmer> anonymeeee: normally cisco default is 9600 8bit no parity
[07:04] <bulmer> no stop
[07:04] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, i've installed before with low ram, after the installation, it should run A LOT better....you should be able to install it, however, running the distro from the cd...you probably won't get too far
[07:05] <maxagaz> bulmer: there's no gui for diff ?
[07:05] <anonymeeee> thank you Bulmer, and where do I find those settings?
[07:05] <anonymeeee> in which terminal program?
[07:05] <Ryan`> ..0.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[07:05] <bulmer> maxagaz: come on have the guts to start using command line..its simple
[07:05] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, so, in summary, yes it is possible to install, and you shouldn't have a problem installing, though, it will be slow, if that makes sense
[07:05] <maxagaz> bulmer: ok, thanks
[07:05] <posingaspopular> Ryan`, that's just annoying
[07:06] <bulmer> anonymeeee: go see cisco docs
[07:06] <Varsendaggr> help    does anyone have an idea
[07:06] <berent> bulmer - then why my sendmail queues up(have checked with mailq)- but mail doesnt reach destination
[07:06] <RoundyT1> posingaspopular, haha! yeah, it is.
[07:06] <tdn> How do I disable my USB cd-rom drive in my Thinkpad laptop? I want to save the power of keeping it on.
[07:06] <Cheyenne> I am trying to get Samba shares to work on my 6.10 machine for a file server and I keep getting this error message: dealc@hsrvr-001:~$ sudo smbpasswd -a hsrvr-main
[07:06] <Cheyenne> New SMB password:
[07:06] <Cheyenne> Retype new SMB password:
[07:06] <Cheyenne> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user hsrvr-main. Does this user
[07:06] <Cheyenne> exist in the UNIX password database ?
[07:06] <RoundyT1> tdn, thinkwiki.org
[07:06] <enajeirak> roundyt1..yes..makes sense..however its been 11 hours of trying everything i have looked up to do..and nada..:)and my sanity is hanging from a thread :)
[07:06] <Cheyenne> Failed to modify password entry for user hsrvr-main
[07:06] <bulmer> berent what do i know of your setup? why are you asking me?
[07:06] <Ryan`> ....................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[07:07] <posingaspopular> !ops
[07:07] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth or jrib
[07:07] <RoundyT1> tdn, thinkwiki is amazing, i have a thinkpad
[07:07] <Nergar> Ryan`, please stop
[07:07] <tdn> RoundyT1, already there, but I haven't been able to find any wiki entry about this.
[07:07] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, dang...what kind of machine are you installing on
[07:07] <anonymeeee> bulmer: where/which ubuntu terminal lets you set 9600 8bit no parity...how do I do that?
[07:07] <tdn> RoundyT1, I know. I love it too :)
[07:07] <Cheyenne> I am trying to get Samba shares to work on my 6.10 machine for a file server and I keep getting this error message: dealc@hsrvr-001:~$ sudo smbpasswd -a hsrvr-main
[07:07] <bulmer> anonymeeee: man setserial
[07:07] <aabrahao> to locate php do I need special access? I try find but just appears root with floppy, cd and home. where the programs are instaleld?
[07:07] <RoundyT1> tdn, dang, yeah, sometimes .... you can't find everything *sigh* haha
[07:08] <Cheyenne> I am trying to get Samba shares to work on my 6.10 machine for a file server and I keep getting this error message:
[07:08] <Cheyenne> dealc@hsrvr-001:~$ sudo smbpasswd -a hsrvr-main
[07:08] <Cheyenne> New SMB password:
[07:08] <Cheyenne> Retype new SMB password:
[07:08] <Cheyenne> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user hsrvr-main. Does this user
[07:08] <Cheyenne> exist in the UNIX password database ?
[07:08] <Cheyenne> Failed to modify password entry for user hsrvr-main
[07:08] <RedPlantain> Does ubuntu have any services turned on by default? (Like ssh or telnet?)
[07:08] <berent> bulmer-i thought u were wise enuf for this!!
[07:08] <ssaa> hello . please i need some help. Feisty isn't detecting wifi networks. what can i do?
[07:08] <thoreauputic> RedKrieg: no
[07:08] <thoreauputic> RedPlantain: no
[07:08] <RoundyT1> !pastebin | Cheyenne
[07:08] <ubotu> Cheyenne: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:08] <thoreauputic> sorry RedKrieg
[07:08] <enajeirak> roundy..i dont think its my machine like i said..it says it cant find the package...IM confused by that because i can open the cd..is there a text only way of running the live version that wont lock up my computer???
[07:08] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:08] <Nergar> i guess no one has any idea on how to uninstall a rpm installed with alien
[07:08] <bulmer> berent i didnt not setup your servers, how would i know that?
[07:08] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, good questions
[07:09] <ssaa> please someone help me
[07:09] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, good question* ...haha.
[07:09] <tdn> RoundyT1, but do you know how to do it? You do understand, what I want to do, right?
[07:09] <enajeirak> roundy...im a pain in the butt...im sorry
[07:09] <Re|ent|ess> !alien | Re|ent|ess
[07:09] <thoreauputic> ssaa: try #ubuntu+1 fpr feisty
[07:09] <berent> ssaa -what do u want
[07:09] <thecort> how can I tell what version of the kernel I'm using?
[07:09] <bulmer> nergar i would assume similar to de-install
[07:09] <RoundyT1> tdn, hm...kind of. explain in a pm?
[07:09] <Zenerek> ok found and tried it by typing MAKEDEV in the prompt,i did do it right?well i heard the cpu doing something brief but i saw no feedback from the shell
[07:09] <Re|ent|ess> !raid | Re|ent|ess
[07:09] <berent> ssaa ask bulmer
[07:09] <thoreauputic> thecort: uname -a or uname -r
[07:09] <Zenerek> i was in dev by the way
[07:09] <Cheyenne> I am trying to get Samba shares to work on my 6.10 machine for a file server and I keep getting this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13490/
[07:09] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, nah, i am myself. im really new to ubuntu actually....just been messing with it for only a few weeks now...
[07:09] <Cheyenne> What do I do?
[07:09] <ssaa> ok i will thanks
[07:10] <poningru> Nergar: just dpkg -r that package
[07:10] <poningru> Nergar: you there?
[07:10] <Nergar> yes
[07:10] <enajeirak> roundy..well i guess you catch on faster than i do!
[07:10] <Cheyenne> Daverocks: Are you still here?
[07:11] <thecort> anyone know why I would get this error: FATAL: Could not open'/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[07:11] <thecort>  when I try to modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:11] <EADG> enajeirak: Have you installed ubuntu onto your computer or are you just running off the live cd?
[07:11] <enajeirak> well..thank you all very much for your input and insight.....i unfortunately must move on to my pillow!
[07:11] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, you will soon, though i use it at work...soo....maybe that's why. idk. anyways...let me check that question
[07:11] <Nergar> poningru, thanx, it worked like a charm
[07:11] <Cheyenne> I am trying to get Samba shares to work on my 6.10 machine for a file server and I keep getting this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13490/
[07:11] <Cheyenne> Daverocks: Are you still here?
[07:11] <enajeirak> roundy..i will wait for your response..
[07:11] <thecort> I thought it may be that I'm using a different kernel, but that'sthe same
[07:11] <grndslm> question...why is it that ubuntu devs still push apt-get over aptitude??  isn't aptitude supposed to be better/smarter??
[07:11] <bulmer> thecort: uname -a
[07:12] <thoreauputic> grthey don't push it
[07:12] <Nergar> whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> grndslm: aptitude is mostly better though
[07:12] <bulmer> google for it please
[07:12] <thecort> bulmer: Linux thecort-laptop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:12] <Nergar> i thought it was the same
[07:12] <bulmer> thecort theres your clue on which kernel version you use
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Nergar: aptitude is smarter in some ways - sometimes a bit too much so IMO :)
[07:13] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, can you explain one more time in a pm to me....what the "initial problem" is?
[07:13] <thecort> bulmer: right, it matches the one in the wrror, I can't figure out why I'm getting that error
[07:13] <kofler> I'm trying to do static IP configuration. The machine is currently DHCP'd and I am remotely SSH'd from home to the network. If I /etc/init.d/networking restart, will I lose all connectivity positively?
[07:13] <tdn> RoundyT1, did you get my pm?
[07:13] <thoreauputic> Nergar: better dependency handling etc
[07:13] <grndslm> thoreauputic: http://microwavebiscuit.wordpress.com/2007/03/28/shame-on-me/ is an example where feisty has some new feature...and when you type "tilda" in a terminal on a pc that doesn't have tilda installed, it suggests to use apt-get
[07:13] <Nergar> thoreauputic, smarter in which way
[07:13] <bulmer> thecort i dont know what error you're getting i missed your pasting
[07:13] <Nergar> thoreauputic, ok, i get it
[07:13] <grndslm> apt-get response is very prevalent around here as well
[07:14] <enajeirak> roundy..how do i pm?
[07:14] <grndslm> Nergar:  when it comes to removing unused dependencies also
[07:14] <RoundyT1> tdn, read it...did you just read my reply?
[07:14] <kofler> Anyone?
[07:14] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, what IRC client are you using?
[07:14] <Nergar> enajeirak, /querry nick
[07:14] <Zenerek> nerger appitude as i recall will remove packages you are not using(somone confirm?)anyway i would rather keep packages as i am on a dialup and as such downloading can be a chore
[07:14] <RoundyT1> or ya.
[07:14] <enajeirak> xchat
[07:14] <thoreauputic> Nergar: it is better at resolving conflicts etc
[07:14] <thecort> bulmer: FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[07:14] <thecort>  when I modprobe ndiswrapper
[07:14] <dealc> I am trying to get Samba shares to work on my 6.10 machine for a file server and I keep getting this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13490/
[07:14] <dealc> What do I do?
[07:14] <Nergar> thanx thoreauputic
[07:14] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, just type "/querry RoundyT1 and type your message here"
[07:14] <tdn> RoundyT1, I have received no pm from you. Are you registered at nickserv?
[07:15] <RoundyT1> shiz
[07:15] <grndslm> i also hate having to type apt-cache search....i'd rather have one command for aptitude search and aptitude install/remove...i also hate having to stretch my pinky for that hyphen!
[07:15] <thoreauputic> grndslm: well, that sounds like the new command-not-found package - you can uninstall it if it bothers you
[07:15] <bulmer> thecort did you look in that dir if that file really exist?
[07:15] <RoundyT1> tdn, dangit, how do i do that?
[07:15] <enajeirak> "/querry RoundyT1
[07:15] <enajeirak> shit
[07:15] <RoundyT1> enajeirak, lol
[07:15] <enajeirak> i did it wrong
[07:15] <dealc> Can anyone help me?
[07:15] <grndslm> thoreauputic:  i like the idea of it....ubuntu's always got great ideas...just curious why i don't see aptitude more often
[07:16] <tdn> RoundyT1, msg NickServ
[07:16] <thoreauputic> grndslm: I don't really know t be honest :)
[07:16] <shmeelAway> hi, i'm on a laptop but want to use a external monitor, but the only way i can get to the external is by restarting, the key fnf6 won't work. can anyone helP?
[07:16] <Flannel> dealc: does hsrvr-main exist as a user on your box?
[07:16] <bulmer> kofler: yes there is a chance you will lose connectivity if it gets a new ip address from dhcp server
[07:17] <thecort> bulmer: there is nothing in the /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/misc$
[07:17] <thecort> directory
[07:17] <kofler> bulmer: It's static IP configuration....
[07:17] <tdn> RoundyT1, /msg NickServ REGISTER RoundyT1
[07:17] <dealc> Flannel: I was trying to add it as a user.
[07:17] <thecort> bulmer: but I don't know what to put in there
[07:17] <bulmer> thecort: thats why it complains it can not find it
[07:17] <RoundyT1> yay
[07:17] <enajeirak> ***i feel inferior!
[07:17] <Flannel> dealc: you're trying to add it as a samba user.  Does it exist as a normal user on your machine?  (login from a fresh TTY?)
[07:17] <dealc> tdn: its /msg nickserv register <password>
[07:17] <binfalse> Hi
[07:17] <str4`> sup?
[07:17] <tdn> dealc, ok.
[07:18] <bulmer> kofler: am lost, you said its dhcp? and now static, maybe i missed your first posting
[07:18] <Zenerek> bulmer i typed MAKEDEV while in dev and nothing happened except some sound from the cpu and then well nothing,i got no feed back from the shell
[07:18] <RoundyT1> dealc, try using the user hsrvr instead of hsrvr-main
[07:18] <aj_> any one have any idea why I cant login to sites like yahoo or myspace
[07:18] <dealc> Flannel: No, I am new at Samba and am getting really confused
[07:18] <thecort> bulmer: any idea what I should put in there to get this thing working?
[07:18] <bulmer> Zenerek that would only re-create missing device files
[07:19] <aj_> it just makes fire fox close
[07:19] <Flannel> dealc: to have a samba password for a particular user, you need to have that username exist on your box.  So, like, 'dealc' could have a samba password.
[07:19] <bulmer> thecort how did you get that SMP kernel installed? maybe it does not have ndiswrapper?
[07:19] <dealc> RoundyT1: The name of my main computer (WIN XP)  is HSRVR-MAIN
[07:19] <binfalse> I'll find out
[07:19] <kofler> bulmer: Yeah obviously, don't worry about it though, I figured it out and was able to restart networking without losing connectivity entirely.
[07:19] <Flannel> dealc: but, if I wanted to have a samba account on your box, I'd have to first create a 'flannel' user on your normal linux, and then give myself a samba password
[07:19] <slavik> gnome-baker does not want to add an obcenely large file to a data dvd project
[07:20] <Zenerek> so tty should be back?sorry but you never explained what MAKEDEV did,using the 386 kernel right now
[07:20] <slavik> could it be because the file is larger than what a dvd can fit?
[07:20] <bulmer> kofler alright..you' solved it yourself
[07:20] <thecort> bulmer: I installed ndiswrapper. As far as the kernel, this is the standard edgy install
[07:20] <thadthudpucker> how s it going?
[07:20] <str4`> out of interest
[07:20] <bulmer> thecort your error says its looking for the Kernel version of ndiswrapper not a loadable module noh?
[07:21] <bulmer> the .ko is the clue
[07:21] <thadthudpucker> need help converting a m4a file to mp3
[07:22] <thecort> bulmer: it says no such file or directory
[07:22] <bulmer> Zenerek kindly prefix a nick on your responses, its easy to miss
[07:22] <Symmetria> heh
[07:22] <bulmer> thecort yeah, do you know for sure that the SMP version of the  kernel have an ndiswrapper.ko module?
[07:22] <Zenerek> bulmer sorry,i never really used irc much,very new at this
[07:22] <Symmetria> man I've seen some sneaky crap by vendors of hardware and software
[07:22] <Symmetria> but netapps takes the cake
[07:23] <Megaqwerty> is there a way to pass the output of a command to wget kind of like grep (i.e. something like echo "http://url.com" | wget) so that wget then downloads the results of echo (in this case http://url.com)
[07:23] <FunnyLookinHat> shmeelAway, Did anyone help you with your problem above?
[07:23] <ssaa> Please help me:  ubuntu isnt detecting wifi networks . What can i do?
[07:23] <bulmer> Symmetria: whats netapps?
[07:23] <shmeelAway> funnylookinhat: no
[07:23] <FunnyLookinHat> shmeelAway, if not, i would strongly suggest searching ubuntuforums.org   Because it's a hardware specific issue, it's nothing that anyone w/o that laptop could probably help with  : (
[07:23] <thecort> bulmer: no
[07:24] <thoreauputic> MegaQuark__: you might like to put your url s in a file and use the -i option:  wgat -i <filename>
[07:24] <bulmer> Megaqwerty: yes, you have to try and test it though so you get the correct url
[07:24] <dealc> Flannel: Thanks, Now it Works.
[07:24] <shmeelAway> funnylookinhat: i was thinking that maybe even a good keyboard shortcut program could do the triclk
[07:24] <thoreauputic> ssaa: your question is way too general
[07:24] <bulmer> thecort well go do a research on it
[07:24] <Megaqwerty> bulmer: can you give me an example of the correct syntax?
[07:25] <RoundyT1> dealc, but because you're making a new user try it and see?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> ssaa: also if you are running feisty, you should ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:25] <thecort> bulmer: someone in a forum said they had the same problem and reinstalled the kernel source and it worked. I'm not sure if that says anything about the issue. If so, how would I go about doing that?
[07:25] <RoundyT1> dealc, because you're not on your xp machine you're on your *nix machin
[07:25] <ssaa> Please help me:  ubuntu isnt detecting wifi networks . It detects my card and everything but its not showing the available connections. What can i do?
[07:25] <dealc> RoundyT1: I added the user an now it works.
[07:25] <RoundyT1> anyone know the command to disable/shut off a device?
[07:25] <FunnyLookinHat> shmeelAway, it's very possible.  Also, if other people with your model of laptop are having this issue there is a good chance someone has created a simple program or script to fix it.  best way to fin dout is to search via google or on ubuntuforums.org for you laptop model number and a few keywords related to the issue
[07:25] <RoundyT1> dealc, ok.
[07:25] <aj_> can anyone help me Ihave asked a couple times, I guess my question just has been overlooked
[07:26] <ssaa> thoreauputic: had the same problem with all versions in my laptop
[07:26] <RoundyT1> aj_, what's the quesiton?
[07:26] <shmeelAway> funnylookinhat, i've tried
[07:26] <shmeelAway> come up with very little
[07:26] <dealc> ssaa: Do you have any Wifi programs on you box?
[07:26] <casemods_> anybody know of a good DVD to 700bm cd ready file conveter?
[07:26] <RoundyT1> anyone know the command to disable/shut off a device?
[07:26] <Megaqwerty> bulmer: ?
[07:26] <bulmer> thecort you have do download the SMP kernel and then compile it
[07:26] <FunnyLookinHat> shmeelAway, then at the least you should report it as a bug on launchpad.net and then the developers will fix the issue (hopefully in time for feisty's release)
[07:27] <shmeelAway> mmk
[07:27] <aj_> ROundyT1 everytime I go to log into pages like yahoo or myspace for example firefox just closes down
[07:27] <bulmer> Megaqwerty: can you visit #bash channel they are better at scripting..it may take me a while to do trial and error
[07:27] <aj_> I have tried to reinstall
[07:27] <Megaqwerty> bulmer: okay, thanks
[07:27] <thadthudpucker> is there a channel dealing with multimedia questions?
[07:28] <RoundyT1> aj_, i had that happen once, it may be because of flash or some plugin is pooping itself....try just removing the package and re-adding it?
[07:28] <aj_> Roundy: I think flash is the only plugin I have installed
[07:29] <aj_> I just instaled everything like three days ago
[07:29] <thadthudpucker> is there a channel dealing with multimedia questions?
[07:30] <aj_> Roundy  when you say package do you mean fire fox  or the flash plug in
[07:30] <|Nihil|> Hey, how can I specify what ALSA uses as the default output?
[07:30] <grndslm> casemods_:  k9copy
[07:30] <RoundyT1> trial by error, try the plugins first obviously....less work
[07:31] <RoundyT1> aj_, read ^
[07:31] <grndslm> thadthudpucker:  alsa perhaps?  depends on what kinda multimedia question
[07:31] <crimsun> |Nihil|: yes, see asoundconf(1) set-default-card
[07:31] <RoundyT1> |Nihil|, umm....do you have your "volume control" up in the top right?
[07:31] <aj_> Roundy T1 cause I already tried to re install firefox with synaptic
[07:31] <thadthudpucker> it deals with converting a sound file from one format to another.
[07:32] <ffd21> hi
[07:32] <aj_> Roundy T1 I seen it
[07:32] <RoundyT1> aj_, hmm weird...see if it works with another browser
[07:32] <thadthudpucker> an m4a to mp3
[07:32] <ffd21> how are u
[07:32] <aj_> Roundy T1 any suggestions, I am new with linux
[07:32] <slavik> !paste > slavik
[07:32] <|Nihil|> crims: I'll look at that...
[07:33] <crimsun> !info soundconverter
[07:33] <|Nihil|> RoundyT1: Yes...?  What about it ?
[07:33] <RoundyT1> aj_, next time you need help--try not to mention myspace (i learned that the hard way) people around here are weird about it, from my experience lol...(don't worry i have one too)
[07:33] <ubotu> soundconverter: convert sound files to other formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 300 kB
[07:33] <livenicely> How i can get .mp3 codec for rythm box
[07:33] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: see ^
[07:33] <ffd21> help me
[07:33] <grndslm> thadthudpucker:  dunno if a program like that exists...but i know that you can download a plugin to play it like xmms-mp4
[07:33] <ffd21> my system no sound
[07:33] <grndslm> soundconverter converts m4a to mp3??
[07:33] <aj_> Roundy T1 I only have it cause my 13 yr old daughter
[07:33] <ffd21> my computer system lenovo 3000 n100
[07:33] <RoundyT1> |Nihil|, right click and hit preferences and click the "driver" or whatever from the drop down window
[07:34] <slavik> is tracker better than beagle?
[07:34] <RoundyT1> aj_, ah, cool cool...just wondering.
[07:34] <crimsun> grndslm: it can. It uses GSt plugins.
[07:34] <dealc> !samba
[07:34] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:34] <|Nihil|> crims: Got it, thanks.
[07:34] <thadthudpucker> ok thanks...what about playing it out of one program and into another?
[07:34] <|Nihil|> Round: That just lets me choose which device is controlled by that knob, right?
[07:34] <grndslm> crimsun:  that's friggin awesome
[07:34] <dealc> !swat
[07:34] <drew> how do i remotely connect to a windows xp machine, is there a program in ubuntu for that?
[07:34] <RoundyT1> |Nihil|, kind of...
[07:34] <aj_> Roundy T1 any suggestions on alt browsers
[07:34] <ffd21> 
[07:34] <ffd21> 
[07:35] <Re|ent|ess> drew  samba
[07:35] <dealc> RoundyT1: What is SWAT?
[07:35] <Re|ent|ess> !samba > drew
[07:35] <genii> Samba Web Admin Tool
[07:35] <Re|ent|ess> !samba | drew
[07:35] <ubotu> drew: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:35] <grndslm> thadthudpucker: could you elaborate on the last question please?
[07:35] <RoundyT1> aj_, not really, just pick one-- anything really...i can't think off the top of my head
[07:36] <RoundyT1> |Nihil|, did you go into the gnome sounds menu?
[07:36] <aj_> Roundy T1 thanks for your help
[07:36] <RoundyT1> aj_, let me know what happens...
[07:36] <drew> Re|ent|ess: ty.
[07:37] <thadthudpucker> is there a way to play a song put out of one program and have another record it at the same time?
[07:37] <|Nihil|> RoundyT1: I looked there, yeah...
[07:37] <|Nihil|> that lets me pick to use ALSA
[07:37] <slavik> thadthudpucker: read about pipes :D
[07:37] <Supaplex> thadthudpucker: play from which program?
[07:37] <|Nihil|> but not which output on which soundcard ALSA is using as the default output
[07:37] <dealc> RoundyT1: How do I add write permitions to samba shares?
[07:37] <|Nihil|> unless i'm mistaken...
[07:37] <RoundyT1> aj_, not saying yahoo and myspace do, but some pages require IE ... you could try installing that (its useful every once in a while) IE4Linux --but i have to warn you, its not Ubuntu software nor does ubuntu support it
[07:37] <thadthudpucker> how about out of VLC and into...?
[07:37] <grndslm> thadthudpucker:  well, i think the tricky part would be getting your sound card to record anything at all
[07:38] <grndslm> i've never been able to record jack with linux
[07:38] <thadthudpucker> i already noticed that!!! :P
[07:38] <RoundyT1> |Nihil|, you should be able to select it in there?
[07:38] <thadthudpucker> that was the next thing i was going to ask
[07:38] <aj_> Roundy T1 I will try tomorrow iI have been trying differant things tonight and sitting here trying to get someone to answer me has been agervating it just sux that I have been ignored just for mentioning myspace
[07:38] <thadthudpucker> is there a way to configure the sound card tyo be able to record?
[07:39] <grndslm> thadthudpucker:  *that* might be a question for #alsa
[07:39] <RoundyT1> aj_, nah, that's not why you were ignored....i was just saying i "think" i've been ignored because of it....haha. nah, people are fine its just personal opinon
[07:39] <thadthudpucker> ok then..
[07:39] <thadthudpucker> thanks!
[07:40] <RoundyT1> exit
[07:40] <RoundyT1> oops
[07:40] <coder> i have a dvd that was burnt on a windows box, that I can't view the content for on ubuntu.  how can i get it to mount successfully?
[07:40] <coder> it is a dvd of files.
[07:40] <|Nihil|> RoundyT1: I don't believe so...?
[07:41] <|Nihil|> I have an option for just the 1st card
[07:41] <|Nihil|> then just the 2nd card
[07:41] <|Nihil|> then options for ESD, OSS or ALSA
[07:41] <|Nihil|> but if I choose alsa, I don't believe there's a way (from there at least) to specify which of the two cards alsa uses as the default output, as it recognies both.
[07:41] <|Nihil|> i think Crimsun's terminal solution worked though
[07:41] <aj_> ROundy T1 I do tech support for verizon but it is windows based I decided to try linux because I kinda like the idea of open source I understand personal oppinion I just try not tolet it get in my way of helping those i can, again thanks for your help
[07:42] <grndslm> coder:  there should be no problem reading data dvds...either you didn't close the disc or you turned automounting off
[07:42] <grndslm> i'd presume
[07:42] <coder> i didnt turn off automounting
[07:42] <coder> and from vmware windows xp, i can view the files fine
[07:42] <grndslm> finalize the disc?
[07:42] <coder> how can i verify that?
[07:43] <grndslm> hmm...that's beyond me
[07:43] <aj_> Blessed Be All
[07:43] <coder> grndslm: it is finalized.  i check in windows.  free space = 0
[07:44] <grndslm> coder:  that does sound like an ubuntu issue...one that i am unfamiliar with
[07:44] <coder> k
[07:44] <coder> thx
[07:45] <Feengur> !hi
[07:45] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[07:46] <Feengur> I just downloaded a .run installation file for a program, but it keeps trying to open with gedit.  How do i get it to run and actually install the app?
[07:46] <Feengur> never had this problem before
[07:46] <nf4> what is the best way for a freind to send me a 24gb file she is using osX and i am on ubuntu
[07:46] <vegiVamp> Feengur: probably not set executeable
[07:47] <Feengur> well, i checked the properties and it's set to open with text editors
[07:47] <Feengur> but not actually execute as a script
[07:47] <vegiVamp> Feengur: check the mode bits
[07:48] <vegiVamp> there should be an "is executable" permission
[07:48] <vegiVamp> (I'm on K so can't really compare)
[07:49] <pigeonflight> nf4: could try mediafire.com
[07:49] <Feengur> thanks :)
[07:50] <Feengur> i don't know why it wasn't set up properly...
[07:50] <Feengur> never had to set it before
[07:50] <nf4> it limits 100mb per file and the file i need is 24gb
[07:50] <pigeonflight> nf4: ah
[07:50] <nf4> is there a way to set up a sever on my machine to allow her to direct connect
[07:50] <Feengur> nf4, you can both set up ftp
[07:50] <pigeonflight> nf4: 24gb is alot
[07:51] <grndslm> nf4: send 3 dual layered dvds in the mail!
[07:51] <pigeonflight> grndslm: for real
[07:51] <nf4> that will be hard she is in the thrid world
[07:51] <grndslm> what kinda internet connection does she have?
[07:51] <macd> nf4, well at avg DSL speeds, that 24gb would take a month.
[07:52] <nf4> i think she is on isdn
[07:52] <Feengur> woah..
[07:52] <Feengur> lol
[07:52] <pigeonflight> macd: was thinking the same thing
[07:52] <hectorheadgear> ok so I'm trying to make an ubuntu server and I'm running into difficulties installing it
[07:52] <grndslm> hahahhaha
[07:52] <macd> lol, even slower
[07:52] <macd> isdn = 1/10th the avg dsl line
[07:52] <macd> upstream would eb the same ;P
[07:52] <pigeonflight> nf4: shipping it to here is going to be faster
[07:52] <Lowe> nf4: ship it on dvd or an harddrive
[07:52] <macd> if nigerians can ship fake cashier checks then she can mail a dvd or 3
[07:52] <grndslm> nf4:  even if she had to go buy the new drive & dvds
[07:53] <nf4> so how do i set up a ftp
[07:53] <hectorheadgear> so can anyone give me a hand with this ubuntu install>
[07:53] <grndslm> nf4: you really wanna wait 10 months?
[07:53] <macd> hectorheadgear, well how about telling us your problem
[07:53] <pigeonflight> nf4: you understand that 24gb will take more than 6 months for someone on isdn
[07:53] <grndslm> what if you need to reboot??
[07:53] <hectorheadgear> ok, just makin' sure someone noticed ;)
[07:53] <nf4> well it cant be that then
[07:53] <macd> ftp supports resume ;P
[07:54] <hectorheadgear> i'm running the installation, it finds the network fine, and then it comes time to set up the partitions
[07:54] <nf4> she can download at 300-1000k a second
[07:54] <hectorheadgear> and that's where i have my trouble
[07:54] <nf4> i dont know her upload it think it is 30-50K
[07:54] <grndslm> nf4:  upload is definitely the killer
[07:54] <hectorheadgear> it just sort of pauses there and does nothing when the partition menu is supposed to come up
[07:54] <catxk> nf4: where she living?
[07:54] <nf4> singapor
[07:54] <macd> at 100K your looking at 240K minutes.
[07:54] <catxk> oh, that's not the third world :P
[07:54] <Lowe> nf4: 300 - 1000 kBytes per second on a isdn-line?
[07:55] <nf4> i must be mistaken
[07:55] <macd> hectorheadgear, are you using a scsi or sata disk?
[07:55] <grndslm> seriously tho, can you recover from a broken ftp transfer?
[07:55] <hectorheadgear> regular old IDE
[07:55] <macd> grndslm, if the ftpd supports it
[07:55] <macd> hectorheadgear, wierd, Id try reburning the ISO.
[07:55] <catxk> nf4: have her send it by mail, takes a week or so... I'm in Malaysia, I've tried it myself :>
[07:55] <Crazytom> you could probably break up the file and then reassemble it
[07:55] <grndslm> k, so proftpd or the like would prolly do it
[07:55] <hectorheadgear> a hell. alright, thanks for the advice.
[07:55] <macd> grndslm, proftpd does, yes
[07:56] <grndslm> nf4:  general consensus is that snail mail is your only practical option
[07:56] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: so you need the soundconverter, gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse packages installed
[07:56] <nf4> these guys that run the internet need to speed things up
[07:56] <catxk> blame taiwan
[07:56] <grndslm> google's working on it
[07:56] <nf4> 24gb should be uploaded in 24 minutes
[07:57] <thadthudpucker> crimsun: im installing soundconverter right now.
[07:57] <grndslm> or 24 seconds
[07:57] <nf4> yes
[07:57] <shatrat> Im pretty sure the guys running the internet are wishing you would use smaller files.
[07:57] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: from there, it's fairly self-explanatory that you need to use soundconverter to "convert m4a to mp3"
[07:57] <dougie> whats your guys favorite ftp clients? is gFTP pretty good?
[07:57] <LoneWolf1066> Question: can you install a dapper package in edgy?
[07:57] <Lowe> nf4: can be done, if you pay enough ;)
[07:57] <nf4> internet should be free
[07:57] <thadthudpucker> crimsun: one would think...
[07:57] <grndslm> gftp is good
[07:57] <shatrat> nf4, nothing is free
[07:57] <arejay> filezilla is ok to
[07:57] <beergutxl> Anybody have an idea as to why prelink might be causing a kernel panic like crash on edgy?
[07:57] <nf4> i mean i pay for it and every thing in it is still illegal
[07:57] <Lowe> nf4: why? nothing is free
[07:57] <macd> 84 Days 21 Hours 36 Minutes 40.54 Seconds
[07:57] <macd> thats your estimatd transfer time.
[07:58] <shatrat> nf4, only the interesting parts are illegal
[07:58] <macd> beergutxl, generic or 386 kernel?
[07:58] <nf4> i mean the tv i watch  and pay for is legal but if i watch the same tv show on the net it is illegal for some reson
[07:58] <jeduan> you might also want to check filezilla, although i haven't checked it in a while, gftp is sometimes buggy
[07:58] <beergutxl> madc: 2.6.17-11-generic
[07:59] <macd> nf4, thats what the whole content delivery market is about, money.
[07:59] <shatrat> nf4, that is changing.  You can watch all the NBC prime time shows on their website.  The Black Donnellys in particular is pretty good
[07:59] <macd> beergutxl, is this on boot (during init)? or while the system is running
[07:59] <Madpilot> jeduan, is there a *nix version of Filezilla yet? There wasn't last I checked, but that was months ago
[08:00] <dougie> whats the standard port for ftp?
[08:00] <macd> 21
[08:00] <shatrat> blackjack
[08:00] <shatrat> pay the man
[08:00] <grndslm> Madpilot: filezilla is in the repos
[08:00] <thadthudpucker> crimsun: thank you for your tolerance of a newbie!
[08:01] <beergutxl> macd: It's while prelink is running from cron.daily
[08:01] <Madpilot> grndslm, awesome news. That's (seriously!) the only app I've missed from the Windows side of things...
[08:02] <macd> beergutxl, you dont by change have one of those PIC development boards and your working with that in gcc?
[08:02] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: np.
[08:02] <dougie> hmm ok gFTP is giving me probs.....just crashed
[08:02] <grndslm> Madpilot:  congrats...I forget which apps I missed from windows...been too long
[08:03] <beergutxl> macd: No nothing like that
[08:03] <jeduan> the last time i tried there was some beta, i think, from version 3
[08:03] <thadthudpucker> crimsun: ok, new problem...the mp3 option is not selectable in preferences of soundconverter.
[08:04] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: are those three packages that I mentioned above installed?
[08:04] <thadthudpucker> three?
[08:04] <thadthudpucker> i only saw two
[08:04] <crimsun> please, please, please, please, PLEASE read.
[08:04] <grndslm> i saw 3
[08:04] <thadthudpucker> ok i see three now
[08:04] <thadthudpucker> and yes
[08:05] <thadthudpucker> soundconverter, and the two scary looking ones
[08:05] <macd> beergutxl, do you have anything in lastlog, syslog?
[08:05] <LoneWolf1066> is it safe to install a dapper package on an edgy installation? The package maintainer discontinued support and the dapper package is the last he has made available.
[08:05] <grndslm> thadthudpucker:  make sure you write these down in your own little howto!
[08:05] <thadthudpucker> yes, definitely!
[08:05] <macd> LoneWolf1066, chances are, it will fail to install from dependencies
[08:05] <LoneWolf1066> macd: Thanks
[08:07] <thadthudpucker> i copied and pasted the names into the package manager, installe them, and the mp3 option is grey.
[08:07] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: after restarting soundconverter?
[08:07] <beergutxl> macd: No nothing they all logs just stop at the same time until the system is reset on the base. I ran it from the console last time and the output looked similar to a kernel panic output but there was too much too fast so I couldn't see the first few lines.
[08:07] <thadthudpucker> restarted, still grey.
[08:08] <macd> beergutxl, well first Id try dpkg-reconfigure prelink
[08:08] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: try the version in edgy-backports
[08:08] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: (it's newer)
[08:09] <beergutxl> macd: Done it didn't take long
[08:09] <macd> well, now just wait and see if it locks again
[08:10] <thadthudpucker> crimsun: sorry, have no idea how to install an edgy backport...
[08:11] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: System> Administration> Software Sources
[08:11] <Zues_63> hey guys what is the Berry IRC
[08:12] <thadthudpucker> crimsun: look, thank you very much for your tolerance, but i need to go.
[08:12] <crimsun> thadthudpucker: in the "Updates" tab, make sure "Unsupported updates"  (edgy-backports)  is ticked, then click Close
[08:12] <Zues_63> does anyone knw ???????????
[08:12] <thadthudpucker> ok ill stay...
[08:12] <Tim> Hello, i need some help
[08:12] <Tim> is this the right place?
[08:12] <Zues_63> so do i whats up tim
[08:12] <Zues_63> ya it is
[08:12] <Zues_63> whats the problem
[08:13] <Tim> ok, to mount a partition, wou click system => administration => disks right?
[08:13] <Crazytom> !ask
[08:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:13] <Tim> you*
[08:13] <Tim> well, when i click system => administration there is no "disks"
[08:14] <Zues_63> as in the menus tim?
[08:14] <Tim> and i yes, at the top of the screen
[08:14] <ardchoille> Tim: sudo mount <type> <device> <mountpoint>
[08:14] <Zues_63> opps me bad i shld of said that lol
[08:14] <Zues_63> cya guys
[08:14] <theozard> Ok, i just downloded ubuntu
[08:14] <Tim> i have little if any experience in the terminal, so i would like to have the disks thing working
[08:15] <theozard> I am using windows eight now...how should i exactly go about using ubuntu?I have a .iso file
[08:15] <thoreauputic> !install
[08:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[08:15] <Tim> what do i need to do to make "disks" appear?
[08:16] <tombow> windows eight?
[08:16] <ardchoille> Tim: That is not how you mount file systems.
[08:16] <beergutxl> macd:I purged then reinstalled prelink, then ran /etc/cron.daily/prelink and it finishes almost instantly
[08:16] <Tim> thats what i read on the forums..
[08:16] <ardchoille> Tim: That is not how you mount file systems.
[08:17] <tombow> theozard, burn it as an image to a CD using your favorite burning software, reboot from it, run it as a live cd
[08:17] <Tim> ardchoille: that is the GUI way the forum told me to do
[08:17] <Tim> ardchoille: and i have little experience in the terminal
[08:17] <macd> beergutxl, so after you dpkg-reconfigure it still locked up, but after a purge/reinstall its fine?
[08:17] <ardchoille> Tim: You need to have a mountpoint to mount the file system in question, you can make a directory anywhere you want and then mount a file system to that directory.
[08:17] <theozard> tombow, live cd as in?Will there be a setup or will it just run?
[08:17] <tombow> theozard, just burn it and reboot
[08:17] <ardchoille> Tim: You really need to learn the terminal, it's best in the long run.
[08:18] <ardchoille> !bash
[08:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:18] <tombow> theozard, you'll get a menu when you boot up, choose live
[08:18] <stevieb> i am trying to install xgl but when i log in i just get a background with a cursor and nothing else. i think there is something wrong with my login script. can someone help me please?
[08:18] <Tim> ardchoille: ok, i will learn. so i make a folder anywhere, and then mount the partition to that folder?
[08:18] <beergutxl> macd : I didn't try after dpkg-reconfigure wanted to try and avoid crshing again
[08:19] <macd> beergutxl, well dpkg-reconfigure just reinstates the package maintainers config (I think) whereas purging/reinstalling is a complete removal+ configuration delete
[08:19] <ardchoille> Tim: Yes, for example, "sudo mkdir /mnt/mymount" to make the directory (change mymount with the name you want) and then "sudo mount /dev/device /mnt/mymount" to mount the file system to that mount point.
[08:19] <theozard> Amazing, thanks tombow. One more question...Since i am not that experienced, i got some questions about running it live 1)Will it be slower than if i actually install it?Wha's the difference? 2)Are there any chances of my windows getting crashed
[08:19] <macd> beergutxl, none the less, glad to hear it solved your problem
[08:19] <Tim> ardchoille: ok, thankyou
[08:20] <Tim> is there a way to make it mount everytime i boot up?
[08:20] <mneptok> Tim: research fstab
[08:20] <Crazytom> !fstab
[08:20] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[08:20] <Tim> fstab, thankyou
[08:20] <ardchoille> Tim: Yes, you can add the device to /etc/fstab so it will automount at boot.
[08:20] <Tim> thanks eveyrone for your help
[08:21] <mneptok> Tim: when editing files like fstab remember that if you have problems the first thing you'll be asked is "you made a backup before you edited, right?" ;)
[08:21] <tombow> theozard, it'll be slower to boot up and slower to load applications, but once they're in memory it shouldn't be that much slower. and it won't do anything to your windows installation unlress you specifically mount your windows partition and screw around with it
[08:21] <beergutxl> macd: Me too hopefully I won't be waking up to a crashed system again anytime soon. Thanks I didn't expect the problem to be quite so simple to fix
[08:21] <Tim> ardchoille: ok, i will back it up first
[08:21] <M4Sh> hm
[08:22] <M4Sh> how do I run a .bin installer? :O
[08:22] <stevieb> ummm
[08:22] <stevieb> .bin is a cd image isnt it?
[08:22] <ardchoille> Tim: mneptok has a very good point, backups are your friends.
[08:22] <sanityx> simple
[08:22] <sanityx> bin can be cd but also an installer
[08:22] <sanityx> just do ./binfile
[08:22] <stevieb> kk
[08:22] <Tim> lol, ok then
[08:22] <theozard> Thanks tombow , but would you advice me to actually install it instead of running it live or not really?
[08:22] <M4Sh> permission denied :(
[08:22] <beergutxl> you might have to set the executable bit first
[08:22] <sanityx> M4Sh, chmod +x binfile
[08:23] <sanityx> then ./binfile
[08:23] <M4Sh> done that
[08:23] <M4Sh> still, permission denied
[08:23] <sanityx> so do it as root
[08:23] <ardchoille> M4Sh: You might need sudo: sudo ./binfile
[08:23] <M4Sh> done too
[08:23] <M4Sh> :(
[08:23] <M4Sh> ah
[08:23] <sanityx> Permission denied as root?
[08:23] <sanityx> try this
[08:23] <sanityx> chmod 777 binfile
[08:23] <sanityx> or rather
[08:23] <sanityx> sudo chmod 777 binfile
[08:23] <macd> M4Sh, sudo chown root:root -R binfile && sudo chmod u+x binfile
[08:23] <macd> then sudo ./binfile
[08:23] <M4Sh> kk gonna try
[08:24] <ardchoille> macd: Why would you need to chown root:root -R just to run a .bin file?
[08:24] <sanityx> ardchoille, To fix the flux capacitor.
[08:25] <ardchoille> hahaha
[08:25] <void^> just do 'file binfile'
[08:25] <macd> ardchoille, b/c Im betting its permissions are prolly whack.
[08:25] <stevieb> lol
[08:25] <chipbuddy> can anyone tell me the name of a simple calendar for gnome that i can find in the repositories?
[08:25] <macd> think of all the things that people type trying to get something to work in a terminal
[08:25] <stevieb> chipbuddy: evolution mail has a built in calendar i think
[08:25] <ardchoille> Ownership shouldn't matter to root
[08:25] <M4Sh> worked :D thx
[08:25] <sanityx> M4Sh, sudo fluxcapacitor --fix
[08:25] <macd> yeah it shouldnt but this way we know the problem was fixed.
[08:26] <chipbuddy> stevieb, yeah i found that one... do you know of a simpler one?
[08:26] <tombow> theozard, if you have nothing important on your windows drive, go for it and install :-)
[08:28] <theozard> tombow, oh no, i sure do. I think i'll run it live....I'll restart it and run it right now :D
[08:28] <Priest-of-Psi>  nautilus is more unstable then explorer :P
[08:29] <ardchoille> lol
[08:29] <sanityx> Priest-of-Psi, I actually agree, unfortunately.
[08:29] <mrigns> is there a tool to build your own live cd/dvd in the repos?
[08:29] <sanityx> mrigns, Yes.
[08:29] <macd> mrigns, reconstructor
[08:29] <mrigns> thx
[08:29] <Priest-of-Psi> sanityx: atleast if does not bluescreen
[08:30] <sanityx> I've never had a bluescreen under windows XP ever.
[08:30] <sanityx> I've seen tons. But never on my own pc.
[08:30] <duffyd> hi, I've followed the brief howto here: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Japanese/Computing_in_Japanese#Ubuntu to enable Japanese support in ubuntu but it hasn't worked :-(
[08:30] <sanityx> Except from hardware fail
[08:30] <macd> It would be nice if nautilus had better handling concerning non-available NFS mounts.
[08:30] <duffyd> anyone got any clues on how to get it to work?
[08:30] <Hellevator> I'm having this weird problem. I have two monitors and when GDM comes up everything seems fine, resoution wise.  Then when I log in my second monitor goes black and my first monitor reverts to a lower resolution.  I am using the same xorg file I was using a couple weeks ago and it worked fine then. What could be causing this?
[08:30] <sanityx> Hellevator, fluxcapacitor --fix
[08:31] <duffyd> basically, if I hit 'ctrl+space' nothing happens
[08:31] <duffyd> I've manually started scim and it's running in the systray
[08:31] <lagge> Moin alle zusammen, spricht hier wer deutsch?
[08:31] <macd> !de
[08:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:31] <Priest-of-Psi> sanityx: what is a fluxcapacitor?
[08:31] <tombow> duffyd, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput?highlight=%28japanese%29
[08:32] <macd> Priest-of-Psi, the holy grail of time travel of course
[08:32] <duffyd> tombow: thanks :-)
[08:32] <Priest-of-Psi> lol
[08:32] <sanityx> Priest-of-Psi, google flux capacitor
[08:32] <Hellevator> sanityx, I searched ubuntuforums and didn't find anything on fluxcapacitor.  Can you elaborate?
[08:32] <tombow> duffyd, basically, you just install uim-anthy and they other stuff they mention in that page, and load the uim-anthy applet
[08:32] <macd> sanityx, now youve done it ;)
[08:32] <duffyd> tombow: ahh, cool
[08:32] <sp_mfilter> rofl fluxcapacitor
[08:32] <sanityx> Hellevator, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flux_capacitor
[08:33] <tombow> and perhaps restart gnome if necessary
[08:33] <tombow> duffyd, nihonjin desuka
[08:33] <tombow> ?
[08:33] <mrigns> how can i create deb packages not containing sources or stuff. in example some artwork
[08:33] <Priest-of-Psi> it made me think of fluxbox
[08:33] <sanityx> lol
[08:33] <duffyd> iie. Demo nihonjin no okusan ga iru
[08:33] <sanityx> dude, if i had written fluxbox id call the windowmanager fluxcapacitor
[08:33] <duffyd> tombow: ima nihon ni iru yo!
[08:34] <Priest-of-Psi> sanityx: I wish beryl worked with flux
[08:34] <stevieb> broady_, hello
[08:34] <tombow> lucky bastard :-P
[08:34] <duffyd> tombow: I'm running kde (i.e. kubuntu) so hopefully there'll be no problems?
[08:34] <Hellevator> sanityx, so you are saying this is too complicated to try and fix over IRC?
[08:34] <duffyd> tombow: jealousy isn't a nice quality ;-)
[08:34] <ardchoille> mrigns: Look into dpkg-deb --build debian  that's what I use.
[08:34] <sanityx> Hellevator, no, I'm just messing with you, and also I have no idea.
[08:34] <macd> Hellevator, he was joking with you, fluxcapacitor wont help your X problem ;P
[08:34] <ardchoille> mrigns: dpkg-deb --build
[08:34] <sanityx> But honestly, it sounds to me like your hardware is going bad, if the config hasn't changed and you havent changed any drivers or anything
[08:35] <mrigns> ardchoille: is there a usefull manpage?
[08:35] <sanityx> But what do I know
[08:35] <broady_> stevieb: !!!!
[08:35] <ardchoille> mrigns: Yep, man dpkg-deb
[08:35] <B123> hey
[08:35] <Hellevator> sanityx, well I switched to 1 monitor for a week and now im trying to put my second monitor back in and this is happening.
[08:35] <stevieb> broady_, wassup? when are u coming home?
[08:35] <B123> I just switched to ubuntu
[08:35] <B123> from debian
[08:35] <tombow> duffyd, hmmm.... doesn't KDE have it's own internationalization system? try installing language-pack-kde-ja or something
[08:35] <mrigns> ardchoille: thx
[08:35] <B123> and im having problems with video playback, i get sound but no video
[08:35] <B123> any idea?
[08:35] <macd> Hellevator, did you restart X?
[08:35] <ardchoille> mrigns: You're welcome :)
[08:35] <sanityx> Hellevator, oooooo. Nice. Do you have a backup of your old xorg.conf?
[08:35] <Hellevator> yeah
[08:36] <Hellevator> im using the backup
[08:36] <sanityx> heh
[08:36] <duffyd> tombow: I've selected the language support option, which is what's recommended on the website I posted earlier
[08:36] <duffyd> it went away and installed a whole lot of stuff, which included kde stuff too iirc
[08:36] <ardchoille> mrigns: Of course you will want to use debhelper/pbuilder for complicated packages.
[08:36] <Priest-of-Psi> <[08:36] <arooni> where is this 'xorg.conf' file i keep hearing about?  ALSO... how can i search my system from the command line (and do i need to run a command to update an cache so this is...... FAST)
[08:37] <glguy_> Is there a repository I can add to my allowed sources to run newer versions of software (say GHC 6.6)
[08:37] <Priest-of-Psi> arooni: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:37] <sanityx> arooni, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:37] <Hellevator> like i said, everything seems fine at the GDM screen. The resolutions look right but when i log in something happens and the right screen goes blank and the left screen reverts to 1280x1024
[08:37] <sanityx> JINX!!!!
[08:37] <duffyd> tombow: where are you?
[08:37] <tombow> california
[08:37] <Priest-of-Psi> arooni: sudo updatedb && locate <filename>
[08:37] <tombow> duffyd, hmmm, sorry, not sure how it works in kde
[08:38] <duffyd> tombow: cool. np, thanks
[08:38] <Priest-of-Psi> ok time for me to continue working
[08:38] <arooni> Priest-of-Psi: if i add a file after i do updatedb..... will it not be found?
[08:38] <Priest-of-Psi> no you had to run updatedb again
[08:38] <Priest-of-Psi> arooni: you could use sudo find /* |grep <filename>
[08:39] <B123> how do i use root in a terminal on ubuntu i dont remember setting up a root password even lol
[08:39] <Priest-of-Psi> arooni: you should get a book on bash
[08:39] <Broady> stevieb: you here?
[08:39] <Priest-of-Psi> B123: sudo command
[08:39] <Priest-of-Psi> then type you users password
[08:39] <B123> alright..
[08:39] <B123> kk
[08:39] <detectiveinspekt> how do I find what version of mysql I am using?
[08:39] <Priest-of-Psi> detectiveinspekt: which mysql
[08:39] <stevieb> broady_, yeah i am..
[08:40] <Broady> stevieb: look at PM or go on MSN.
[08:40] <B123> alright.
[08:40] <Piratero> hi guys!
[08:40] <B123> Im having a issue
[08:40] <B123> with my video.
[08:40] <B123> it will play the sound, but no display
[08:40] <stevieb> broady, no you look at pm
[08:40] <B123> any idea...
[08:40] <Piratero> does anyone know of a music player that is able to integrate within the root window?
[08:40] <Broady> stevieb: i'm not broady_ anymore....
[08:40] <Piratero> something that is transparent to the background?
[08:40] <stevieb> broady, i know :P
[08:40] <Priest-of-Psi> detectiveinspekt:
[08:40] <Priest-of-Psi> jeanre@setric:~$ mysql --version
[08:40] <Priest-of-Psi> mysql  Ver 14.12 Distrib 5.0.22, for pc-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 5.1
[08:40] <detectiveinspekt> ok thanks
[08:41] <dougie> i setup port forwarding on my router for my ftp app and yet the port is still being blocked....
[08:41] <Piratero> i'm pretty tired of running mplayer to play my music
[08:41] <EADG> Piratero: mpg123
[08:41] <arooni> for people who have synaptic touchpads..... which i s better?  xorg's built in driver.... or: #apt-get install xfree86-driver-synaptics
[08:41] <Priest-of-Psi> B123: install gstreamer ugly package
[08:41] <Priest-of-Psi> arooni: the synaptics driver is best
[08:42] <B123> did that
[08:42] <Piratero> EADG: yeah, but is there an x11 app out there that'll "blend" into the background
[08:42] <Priest-of-Psi> B123: also the wiki has a nice entry on restricted formats
[08:42] <B123> i installed all gstreamer plugins/
[08:42] <B123> its a AVI and mp4.
[08:42] <Piratero> Priest-of-Psi: no titlebar, resizebar, etc
[08:42] <B123> i tired
[08:42] <dougie> anyone know why my ports would still be blocked if they are forwarded on my router?
[08:42] <B123> tried those*
[08:42] <sanityx> Piratero, you could use VLC to play music
[08:42] <Priest-of-Psi> Piratero: what kind of app?
[08:43] <Piratero> Priest-of-Psi: a music player
[08:43] <Priest-of-Psi> mpd++
[08:43] <Piratero> sanityx: i'll google for that
[08:43] <EADG> Piratero: Ahh, you could do mpg123 foo.mp3 &
[08:43] <sanityx> Piratero, youve never heard of vlc? apt-cache search vlc
[08:43] <Piratero> alright
[08:43] <Priest-of-Psi> Piratero: you could run mpd and use concky to display the song
[08:43] <EADG> Piratero: That will force it to the background freeing up your prompt.
[08:43] <Piratero> EADG: i see what you mean, but i'm looking for a more elegant approach
[08:43] <Piratero> Priest-of-Psi: i'll try that too, thanks!
[08:44] <Priest-of-Psi> Piratero: just use Rhythmbox 0.9.6
[08:44] <arooni> how can i play back WMV files in firefox?  (ubuntu 6.10)
[08:44] <sanityx> arooni, There's a plugin. Unfortunately I forget what it's called.
[08:45] <kichgo> Any software that will make your webcam quality clear?
[08:45] <sanityx> kichgo, mac os x :-P
[08:46] <B123> Okay i installed all the gstreamer packs and its still happening?
[08:46] <B123> any idea?
[08:46] <kichgo> sanityx MAC is best for video editting, no doubt .. but I was asking about Webcam =)
[08:46] <_Hug[o] _> what shell is /bin/sh?
[08:46] <sanityx> kichgo, I know
[08:47] <kichgo> sanityx I want to know, if there is a software that can increase webcam quality , maybe by 10-15% ?
[08:47] <sanityx> its sh
[08:48] <kichgo> ??
[08:48] <sanityx> _Hug[o] _, its just sh, thats what its called
[08:48] <sanityx> kichgo, Donnu, I don't have a webcam
[08:48] <_Hug[o] _> sanityx: like shush :)
[08:48] <_Hug[o] _> shhh
[08:49] <ardchoille> _Hug[o] _: It's a quiet shell.. for use in libraries :P
[08:51] <B123> hmph
[08:52] <sabayonuser_> hi there, anyone know why grub doesn't load? (Grub loading, please wait) with Sata drives?
[08:52] <B123> Alright, I installed the gstream packs, and when i open a video it will display the video for a second then it will just show black screen and only play sound. whats wrong?
[08:53] <Ollie> have you tried VLC?
[08:53] <quaal> does anyone have mdadm raid running properly in ubuntu?
[08:54] <B123> im using vlc lmao
[08:54] <otakumark> How can I find out what driver my video card is currently using? I just installed XGL but I want to verify it's installation.
[08:54] <posingaspopular> otakumark, listpci
[08:54] <posingaspopular> but im most likely wrong
[08:55] <B123> so anyone know whats up?
[08:55] <otakumark> command not found
[08:55] <crimsun> B123: you don't happen to be using compiz or beryl, do you?
[08:55] <posingaspopular> really, thats strange
[08:56] <posingaspopular> listpci should output your pci connections, which should tell you what pci card you  have
[08:56] <B123> I have the 7.04 beta, and i enabled the visual effects on it, so if its using the compiz program then yep!
[08:56] <crimsun> B123: ok, right, so you're using compiz
[08:56] <B123> I guess so =D
[08:57] <B123> any ideas on how to make it work with it?
[08:58] <crimsun> do you have Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:59] <B123> lets take a look
[08:59] <_nino> whats the path to gnome display manager?
[08:59] <crimsun> _nino: `which gdm`
[08:59] <_nino> and filename if you know it :)
[08:59] <_nino> ok
[08:59] <kichgo> _nino for it's service?
[08:59] <_nino> yes
[08:59] <B123> crimsun im not really seeing that line at all in the file
[08:59] <crimsun> /etc/init.d/gdm
[09:00] <_nino> ty much
[09:00] <crimsun> B123: try adding it to the Device section
[09:00] <crimsun> B123: you'll need to restart gdm afterward
[09:00] <Crazytom> posingaspopular, lspci?
[09:00] <B123> so what do you want me to type
[09:00] <B123> just
[09:00] <B123> XAANoOffscreenPixmap "true" in devices?
[09:01] <crimsun> you need the entire string I gave you.
[09:01] <_nino> hmm.. what i want to do is change my startup splash screen
[09:01] <_nino> but i've deleted my title bar
[09:01] <_nino> don't ask :/
[09:01] <B123> ah so you did.
[09:02] <B123> soo is restarting the gdm the same as
[09:02] <B123> in debian
[09:02] <crimsun> yes.
[09:02] <crimsun> (/etc/init.d/gdm restart)
[09:02] <B123> kk
[09:03] <posingaspopular> yea thats the command
[09:03] <posingaspopular> somethinglike that
[09:03] <posingaspopular> i said i was most likely wrong
[09:04] <xircx> hmm
[09:11] <PoofDaddy> Does Grip take that long of a time to rip CDs?  I must have the settings for low speed.  It must be the default, so would it be wise to change it?
[09:11] <ardchoille> PoofDaddy: It does take a while for a full cd, yes.
[09:13] <B123> hey
[09:13] <B123> I did the edit you told me too, and the gdm would not load
[09:13] <B123> so i had to edit the line out, and restart it
[09:14] <PoofDaddy> ardchoille: That's odd.  I used to use Nero under Windows and it didn't take a long time.  5 mins.
[09:14] <B123> any idea's
[09:14] <B123> crimsun?
[09:14] <B123> are you here?
[09:15] <crimsun> B123: where did you add it?
[09:15] <B123> devices.
[09:15] <B123> here ill show you 1 min
[09:16] <con-man> does anyone here have an issue with a 5 second lag when visiting a website, almost like going through a proxy?
[09:17] <B123> crimsun, i messaged you with the details.
[09:17] <crimsun> B123: I cannot receive or respond to messages.
[09:17] <B123> Section "Device"
[09:17] <B123>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AQ [Radeon 9600] "
[09:17] <B123>         Driver          "ati"
[09:17] <B123>         BusID           "PCI:2:0:0"
[09:17] <B123> EndSection
[09:17] <B123> thats where i put it, sorry everyone for the long message
[09:17] <crimsun> B123: err, next time please use pastebin.ca
[09:18] <B123> will do.
[09:18] <B123> did i make a mistake?
[09:18] <_nino> is there a cmd to make a certain kdm theme default?
[09:18] <_nino> or a file to edit
[09:18] <crimsun> B123: what did you add?
[09:19] <B123> the line you told me, i just pasted something about pixels true
[09:19] <B123> dont remember all the way
[09:19] <crimsun> Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"  <-- ?
[09:20] <B123> maybe i miss understood what i was supposed to add.
[09:20] <Ind[y] > "gnome-volume-manager --sm-disable" is on startup, but I can't see it on the Panel. Any help?
[09:21] <B123> Was that the correct place?
[09:22] <crimsun> B123: like http://tinyurl.com/37c72l
[09:23] <B123> so should i just Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true" at the end of devices?
[09:23] <crimsun> before the endsection
[09:24] <B123> ill restart
[09:24] <B123> and let you know how it goes
[09:25] <Matt4781581> hi
[09:25] <Matt4781581> hi
[09:25] <Matt4781581> hi
[09:27] <B123> crimsun i didnt have any luck
[09:28] <B123> the gdm did boot, but no luck
[09:28] <freakabcd> hi all
[09:29] <freakabcd> whats the best method for japanese language input/support on edgy?
[09:29] <freakabcd> is it still canna/kinput2 ?
[09:29] <B123> any new idea's?
[09:30] <B123> Is there another option i should add?
[09:31] <janos> cs
[09:31] <stjepan_> !tisp
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tisp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <crimsun> B123: change the video output to x11?
[09:32] <stjepan_> Free internet access by Google, 8x faster than DSL!! www.google.com/tisp
[09:32] <stjepan_> looks great :D
[09:32] <B123> output in what?
[09:33] <stjepan_> "Congratulations, you're online! (Please wash your hands before surfing.)" looooool
[09:34] <B123> idk what you want me to change?
[09:34] <Crazytom> how fast is googles wifi?
[09:34] <B123> In VLC or the xorg?
[09:34] <crimsun> B123: in vlc.
[09:34] <stjepan_> Crazytom, http://www.google.com/tisp/faq.html 8Mbps
[09:34] <stjepan_> ah, it's 10x faster :D
[09:35] <stjepan_> but, "Users with low-flow toilets may simultaneously experience a saving-the-environment glow and slower-data-speed blues." lol
[09:35] <Ind[y] > I want to run 3 commands (I can make them one with &&) after everything else runs, on boot. How can I do this?
[09:35] <B123> im trying to find somewhere that will let me change to x11
[09:36] <xuo> ls
[09:36] <ball> Does ubuntu support 802.11g PCI cards?
[09:36] <Crazytom> that's funny shit
[09:36] <thoreauputic> Ind[y] : put them in /etc/rc.local (and make the file executable)
[09:37] <B123> crimsun
[09:37] <B123> I cant find where to change that option
[09:37] <Ind[y] > thoreauputic: ok
[09:37] <ball> I'm giving serious thought to installing tomorrow
[09:37] <Ind[y] > thx
[09:37] <void^> ball: yes.
[09:37] <ball> void^: thanks
[09:37] <Crazytom> ball, what chipset do you use
[09:37] <ball> Crazytom: VIA Apollo MVP3 I think it was.
[09:37] <void^> ball: if it works out of the box depends on which chipset it is.
[09:38] <ball> Oh, the one on the Wifi card?  Atheros.
[09:38] <ball> ...iirc
[09:38] <thoreauputic> Ind[y] : since runlevel 2 is the only multiuser runlevel in Ubuntu, that should do it
[09:38] <crimsun> B123: video preferences. Make sure advanced options is enabled.
[09:38] <void^> ball: atheros should work fine.
[09:38] <Ind[y] > thoreauputic: It says it runs on the end of each runlevel.
[09:38] <Ind[y] > ok then
[09:39] <ball> Is Ubuntu demanding in terms of memory and processing power?
[09:39] <cwill1> ball: depends
[09:39] <B123> still dont see it
[09:39] <B123> tobe honest
[09:39] <PoofDaddy> Harvested!  I'm so pissed off.  How do I avoid them?  Other than not giving your email away, the best bet is to use nonsense names as an email address to thwart the dictionary attackers, right?
[09:39] <B123> just some cropping stuff
[09:39] <cwill1> ball: can be, but it can be pretty light too
[09:39] <B123> and options for greystyle output
[09:39] <ball> Okay.  I have a 450 MHz AMD K6-2+
[09:39] <void^> ball: should have 256mb memory for the default desktop install.
[09:39] <cwill1> ball: how much memory?
[09:39] <ball> 128 Mbytes
[09:39] <sabayonuser_> anyone knows anything about Ubuntu/grub/sata-drives? I have Ubuntu installed on my Sata drive, but grub is stuck at "grub loading, please wait"
[09:39] <thoreauputic> Ind[y] : the end of each *multiuser* runlevel
[09:39] <cwill1> ball: xubuntu is probably a better fit
[09:40] <ball> Let me see what I have discs for.
[09:40] <Ind[y] > k
[09:40] <cwill1> print head cleaning and stuff:  where do I find that in ubuntu?
[09:40] <xuo> part
[09:40] <ball> Oh that's not good.
[09:40] <JoeMauch> hi can someone help me with wireless? i have a broadcom airforce one chipset, Ubuntu sees it, it's just it doesn't see my wifi
[09:41] <ball> The box that I thought had Ubuntu in it seems to contain "Yellow Dog Linux"
[09:41] <cwill1> lol @ ball
[09:41] <Crazytom> JoeMauch, do lspci -v and find your wireless card and tell us what chipset you have
[09:41] <JoeMauch> BCM4318
[09:42] <digits> Where do I configure which locales that are generated? I only want to generate en_GB.utf8 not all en_* locales...
[09:42] <B123> ?
[09:43] <B123> what option are you refering too?
[09:43] <Crazytom> JoeMauch, have you installed ndiswrapper?
[09:43] <ball> They're around here somewhere.
[09:44] <JoeMauch> Crazytom, i was told that the newest kernel supporrted my chipset, and it's weird that ubntu has the wifi connection deal in the sys-tray, it just doesn't list the avaliable networks, or is that normal?
[09:44] <Squeee> Is it possible to put out sound from initramfs?
[09:45] <crimsun> Squeee: well, if you load the appropriate kernel modules, yes.
[09:45] <anthony_> Hi, Somehow in the trash, a file with a really long path has surfaced.. and when i try to delete it it tells me Error "Name too long" while deleting . what can i do?
[09:45] <anthony_> JoeMauch have you instalel the "network manager" ?
[09:45] <Crazytom> JoeMauch, in a terminal do iwlist eth1 scan
[09:45] <ball> anthony_: can you delete it from the command line?
[09:46] <anthony_> hmmm havent tried, let me see
[09:46] <Squeee> crimsum:In the initramfs, would I have to do the whole copy_exec and get the alsa binaries?  Or just modprobe the necessary modules?
[09:46] <JoeMauch> Crazytom, no results
[09:46] <JoeMauch> "No scan results"
[09:47] <anthony_> ball: yes it worked .. how come nautilus couldnt delete it..?
[09:47] <ball> No idea, I've never used ubuntu ;-)
[09:47] <anthony_> ball: hehe .. okay 10q very much
[09:47] <Crazytom> JoeMauch, have you installed ndiswrapper yet?
[09:47] <ball> I can't even find my install CD!
[09:47] <JoeMauch> Crazytom, i believe so
[09:48] <Crazytom> JoeMauch, do ndiswrapper -l as in long
[09:49] <JoeMauch> Crazytom, brb
[09:49] <Crazytom> JoeMauch, you may need to use sudo
[09:49] <dead_end> firefox
[09:51] <sabayonuser_> anyone knows anything about Ubuntu/grub/sata-drives? I have Ubuntu installed on my Sata drive, but grub is stuck at "grub loading, please wait"
[09:51] <Shafto> Whens Feisty released?
[09:52] <Crazytom> april 17
[09:52] <Venki> hello all,
[09:53] <Crazytom> Shafto, beta is out now though
[09:53] <Venki> can any one tell me that, will ubuntu can be installed on Hp DC 7700SFF Server
[09:53] <pyenos> wtf
[09:53] <ball> Venki: have you tried it?
[09:53] <Shafto> Crazytom, I can wait for another like 15 days
[09:54] <Venki> not yet still.......but before installing, i need to know whether can sit on this hardware
[09:54] <umops> i try start ubuntu in recovery mode and get to the part where it says to press ctrl-d or enter root pw, i press ctrl-d then the screen just goes black, what can i do?
[09:54] <Crazytom> Shafto, i'm using it now and it's working well for me
[09:54] <Shafto> Crazytom, Say i updated to beta now though, from edgy, would i loose all my drivers etc?
[09:54] <Shafto> Crazytom, Like nvidia
[09:55] <digits> anybody have any ideas on where i can alter which locales that are generated?
[09:55] <Venki> will it work on Hp DC 7700SFF HP Hardware...any one plz help me
[09:55] <Crazytom> Shafto, i don't know about that.  I didn't have to install any video drivers
[09:55] <Venki> hello crazytom......will Ubuntu installs on Hp DC 7700SFF Hardware
[09:56] <mkquist> hey all, anyone know why i suddenly could not boot from a live cd? get kernel panic from hd boot and live cd boot...
[09:56] <umops> Venki, noone knows the specs of that box, see if the live cd box
[09:56] <Crazytom> since no one here has installed on that particular hardware we don't know what particular issues it might have
[09:56] <Shafto> Venki, Well it will install on like most servers providing you dont really have elaborate hardware appearently
[09:57] <Crazytom> Venki, what would it hurt to try?
[09:57] <Shafto> Whats support channel for Feisty?
[09:57] <digits> feisty worked like a charm on my old farts obsolete computer... a tad sluggish thouh ;P
[09:57] <ivx> i'm sorry i just got here what hardware are we asking about
[09:57] <Flannel> Shafto: #ubuntu+1
[09:57] <zanpakuto> just curious, where can I find docs for building packages. found a package for amd64,  want to build it for i386
[09:58] <Venki> Intel(r) 965Q Express chipset
[09:58] <Venki> Intel(r) Pentium(r) D Processor 820 / 915 / 925 / 945 (2.8 to 3.4 GHz, 2 x 1
[09:58] <Venki> or 2 x 2 MB L2 cache, 800 MHz FSB) or Intel(r) Core(tm) 2 Duo Processor
[09:58] <Venki> E6300 / E6400 / E6600 / E6700 (1.86 to 2.66 GHz, 2 or 4 MB L2 cache, 1066
[09:58] <Venki> MHz FSB)
[09:58] <ball> digits: I probably qualify as an old fart.
[09:58] <ball> ...but I don't know what Feisty is.
[09:58] <gortba> Hi. I just bought a belkin wireless G Router. Does anyone know how to set the WPA password using Ubuntu?
[09:58] <digits> ball: it's ubuntus beta version
[09:59] <ball> digits: thanks
[09:59] <digits> np
[09:59] <ball> Okay, it's my bed time.
[09:59] <ivx> gortba, i don't know about belkin but there should be a web interface, look at the ip it gave you and type that in ff
[09:59] <ball> Goodnight everyone.
[09:59] <digits> nite ball
[10:00] <tarzeau> it's interesting, ubuntu has 35383 popularity contest participants. (about 3000 more than debian)
[10:00] <Crazytom> i think belkin is 192.168.1.1
[10:00] <Venki> thanks guys
[10:01] <ivx> crazytom, linksys is that for sure... i don't think they would use the same... maybe they do though
[10:02] <Crazytom> i've only setup three or four belkins but you could always just check what your gateway is
[10:02] <gortba> ivx: I'm not sure I understand. What is ff?
[10:02] <ivx> gortba fire fox
[10:02] <ardchoille> Firefox
[10:02] <gortba> Kind of a newbie here...
[10:02] <gortba> oh...hehe
[10:03] <ivx> gortba, #wifi might be able to help more, i think there is a #wireless too
[10:03] <gortba> got it...where would I find the ip?
[10:03] <Squeee> Can anyone explain how i could have just created a "circle dependency" in my in initramfs?  (I kept a backup before I played with the scripts  but still, i'm curious)
[10:03] <Jeeva> ff more like failedfox
[10:04] <Flannel> gortba: the routers IP is either 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.0.1, unless you've got some funky stuff going on
[10:04] <Crazytom> gortba, looks like the ip is going to be 192.168.1.1 and the user is admin and the password is blank as in nothing
[10:04] <ivx> gortba, type ifconfig in the terminal
[10:04] <ivx> crazytom, isn't the passwrd admin and user blank?
[10:04] <gortba> ok...trying that now. BTW--how did you guys know that's the ip?
[10:05] <Squeee> its generally standard to that
[10:05] <Crazytom> ivx, http://sg.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070329133834AAObvw3
[10:05] <ivx> crazytom i was jw i'm not arguing with ya :)
[10:06] <Crazytom> ivx, jw?
[10:06] <ivx> crazytom just wondering, i have only played with linksys
[10:07] <dulce> ola alda
[10:08] <Alda> uhm, hi :)
[10:08] <e_> hi
[10:09] <e_> i have a little prob with xqf
[10:10] <hdxx> e_ ...
[10:10] <e_> http://pastebin.ca/420596
[10:10] <e_> like this
[10:11] <e_> i have kubuntu feisty
[10:11] <Crazytom> gortba, also if that doesn't work try 192.168.2.1
[10:11] <xtheblack9x> i don't know anything about xqf :(
[10:11] <xtheblack9x> im a noob
[10:11] <hdxx> e_: did you install from repos.
[10:11] <e_> yep
[10:11] <gortba> Ok I'll try that crazytom
[10:12] <umops> i try start ubuntu in recovery mode and get to the part where it says to press ctrl-d or enter root pw, i press ctrl-d then the screen just goes black, what can i do?
[10:12] <forha1> Hi how can i install amarok on ubuntu?
[10:12] <elite__> lol
[10:12] <Squeee> umops: Do you not have the root password?
[10:12] <Crazytom> sudo apt-get install amorak
[10:12] <Crazytom> *amarok
[10:12] <umops> Squeee, I do, what do i do from there?
[10:13] <forha1> Crazytom: thats the exact command i used in terminal didnt seem to work
[10:13] <Squeee> depends, why are you booting into recovery mode?
[10:13] <delcoyote> morning all, anyone knows about issues with beyl, xgl and ati making CPU to reach high temperatures?
[10:13] <umops> Squeee, it 'locks up' when the starting bar is like 1/10th of the way through
[10:14] <delcoyote> beryl*
[10:14] <narg> X is randomly changing ctrl+alt+f1 to ctrl+alt+f11 (and so on), anyone know how to remove this behavior?
[10:14] <Crazytom> forha1, have you tried looking for it in synaptic?
[10:14] <forha1> Couldn't find package amarok
[10:14] <forha1> Couldn't find package amarok
[10:14] <forha1> thats the message
[10:14] <Squeee> umops: Check your logs, see why it is crashing
[10:14] <forha1> i get
[10:14] <elite__> install kubuntu-desktop
[10:14] <forha1> yes thats what i did first Crazytom
[10:14] <forha1> it
[10:14] <forha1> wasnt there
[10:14] <umops> Squeee, ok what shouldi look for, some particular log?
[10:15] <Equilibrix> hi all! Somebody in here who understands networking? I can't connect to internet since yesterday's update of xserver
[10:15] <Crazytom> forha1, is that install connected to the internet?
[10:15] <Squeee> umops: /var/log/dmesg |grep -i error
[10:15] <forha1> yes
[10:15] <hdxx> forha1: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[10:15] <forha1> i dont exactly know what you mean btw
[10:15] <forha1> i am not on edgy
[10:15] <hdxx> dapper?
[10:16] <forha1> i am on feisty fawn 7.04 inside vmare for vista
[10:16] <elite__> heh
[10:16] <forha1> yeah
[10:16] <Squeee> umops: if you JUST installed, it couldn't hurt to get upgrades while you are in recovery mode, it might fix your issues
[10:16] <forha1> lol
[10:16] <elite__> 7.04?
[10:16] <swam> nothing but the newest
[10:16] <forha1> yes
[10:16] <elite__> hmm
[10:16] <Equilibrix> hi all! Somebody in here who understands networking? I can't connect to internet since yesterday's update of xserver
[10:16] <forha1> but that shouldnt matter
[10:17] <Squeee> Equilibrix: xserver has nothing to do with your internet connection
[10:17] <forha1> how can i install amarok now
[10:17] <Squeee> forhal: sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:17] <Crazytom> Squeee, already told him that
[10:17] <umops> Squeee, hmm just as a test i chaned my drivers back to 'nv' and gnome started ok.  I nw login and get a "HAL could not initialise"
[10:17] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I know.. But after that update my X window doesn't run and I can't recover it from console, because I can't connect to internet from there
[10:18] <Squeee> umops: I have the HAL error on one of my computers, i've just been ignoring it because it is a server that rarely runs x.  It works fine with the error, though i suppose that isn't really a fix : /
[10:19] <umops> Squeee, ok then thanks, its annoying tho
[10:19] <Squeee> Equilibrix: go into a console, and change your driver to "vesa" instead of whatever you have
[10:19] <forha1> Squeee: i already tried that
[10:19] <forha1> it isnt working
[10:19] <delcoyote> morning all, anyone knows about issues with beyl, xgl and ati making CPU to reach high temperatures? or could it be a hardware failure with a Sata drive?
[10:19] <Squeee> forhal:what does it say?  And did you alter your repositories?
[10:19] <delcoyote> making the comp to shutdown
[10:19] <forha1> nope i didnt it says it cant be found
[10:20] <forha1> i just installed this 2 hours ago
[10:20] <forha1> havent changed a single thing
[10:20] <Crazytom> forha1, is that computer connected to the internet?
[10:20] <Valygar> rt
[10:20] <forha1> yes i am chatting here now hehe
[10:20] <forha1> lol
[10:20] <Squeee> forhal: go to ubuntuguide.org, add their repositories, apt-get update, then install
[10:20] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I've read several instructions in forum, that I should just downgrade my xserver to that previous version from console
[10:21] <forha1> good question though Tom since i am using the opensource highway of Richard Stallman
[10:21] <Squeee> Equilibrix: you shouldn't have to downgrade to get it to work
[10:21] <Squeee> decolyte: if beryl is causing your cpu to heat up dont use it.  Make sure the fan is working.  Also, boot into the bios and monitor your temps for a while
[10:21] <forha1> Squeee: can you elaborate on that adding their repositories ???
[10:21] <swam> can someone explain to me how a file path can have a "." as the first path in a directories name? for example "/home/brian/.vnc/xstartup"
[10:22] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I also tried to use my original clean xorg.conf, but it didn't work
[10:22] <forha1> which repositories
[10:22] <Squeee> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[10:22] <Equilibrix> swam: "." means it is an invisible file / directory
[10:22] <swam> anyone?
[10:22] <delcoyote> thanks Squeee ill do that,btw whats the other name,not beryl the other one cant remember it
[10:22] <swam> oh
[10:23] <swam> so if .vnc is a file
[10:23] <Squeee> decoyote: good luck, (compiz)
[10:23] <Equilibrix> then it's an invisible file - these files are used often as config files
[10:23] <delcoyote> yep! thanks :-)
[10:23] <swam> how can it have can it have /xstartup?
[10:23] <swam> .../.vnc/xstartup
[10:24] <forha1> Squeee:  i have no idea where to find these repositories
[10:25] <StoneNote> !repositories
[10:25] <Squeee> if you follow the instructions word for word, it tells you exactly how to add the extra repositories, and update them
[10:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[10:25] <swam> does "../.words" also denote invid directories?
[10:25] <Equilibrix> swam: no, if .vnc is a file
[10:25] <swam> invis^
[10:25] <Equilibrix> Squeee: do you know where is stored information about ethernet devices? I'm now on liveCD and internet is working and I want to find any differences in configuration
[10:26] <shutdownrunner> Hi.How do I prevent a given kernel module not to be loaded on boot? Probably some configuration file in /etc, but which one?
[10:26] <Equilibrix> Squeee: for example /etc/network/interfaces is the same
[10:26] <Squeee> Equilibrix: What exactly are you looking for?
[10:27] <NJigelli> i installed 6.10, my onboard lan shows up in the network config window, but firefox has no connection
[10:27] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I just dont know why it can't find my eth0 interface in console
[10:27] <NJigelli> 7.04 works fine on the same pc
[10:27] <NJigelli> how can i fix this?
[10:27] <Equilibrix> Squeee: and here, on the liveCD, is everything ok
[10:27] <xtheblack9x> is there a command to see all the irc channels in FreeNode?
[10:27] <NJigelli> /list
[10:27] <xtheblack9x> thank you
[10:27] <swam> how can a file have a sub-directory? eg: /home/brian/.vnc/xstartup
[10:28] <Squeee> equilibrix: so what happens when you run ifconfig eth0 normally
[10:28] <Equilibrix> swam: perhaps it's a directory, not a file
[10:28] <swam> but I thought that the "." denoted it was a file
[10:28] <Equilibrix> Squeee: if I run ifconfig, there's no eth0, only local loopback
[10:29] <ardchoille> swam: the "." denotes that it's hidden, could be a file or a directory
[10:29] <swam> thanks
[10:29] <Equilibrix> swam: nope, the "." only denotes it's hidden
[10:29] <Squeee> swam: files do not have subdirectories.  if it starts with a . it just means it is hidden from normal listings such as ls.  If you type ls -a it includes them
[10:29] <swam> thanks guys
[10:29] <Squeee> Equilibrix ifconfig -a?
[10:30] <Equilibrix> Squeee: .. same.. no eth0
[10:30] <Squeee> boot back into your system (not livecd) real quick
[10:30] <forha1> Squeee: which specific repository should i add to be able to download kde applications in Synaptic???
[10:30] <NJigelli> i installed 6.10, my onboard lan shows up in the network config window, but firefox has no connection?
[10:30] <forha1> that site is so confusing to me english isnt my first language
[10:31] <Squeee> forhal: Use their entire list, replace it with yours.  I'm not sure which one specifically is required
[10:31] <Equilibrix> Squeee: but I can get only to console
[10:31] <cwill1> how do I clean a printer's printheads on ubuntu?
[10:31] <NJigelli> in ifconfig eth0 is listed
[10:31] <forha1> no Squeee i prefer to do it via Synaptic
[10:31] <forha1> and do just what i need now
[10:31] <Squeee> forhal: look around in synaptic you can add repositories through that too
[10:32] <Squeee> forhal: I'm not sure on how exactly, i dont use synaptec anymore
[10:32] <Squeee> NJigelli: type sudo dhclient
[10:32] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I just need to know where is stored information or configuration of ethernet devices.. Because in console it seems that it can't find my ethernet device
[10:32] <forha1> Squeeee i know but what is the repository i should add to be able to download amarok so the kde one but where can i find the adress ???
[10:32] <RainCT> Hello, how can I delete a partition from the desktop and rename the others? thx
[10:33] <Squeee> Equilibrix: It isn't a configureation file.  It's most likely a problem loading the module
[10:33] <NJigelli> it just sites there doing DHCPDISCOVER forever
[10:33] <Squeee> Equilibrix: get back into your normal system and type "dmesg |grep -i error"
[10:33] <NJigelli> there is 2 onboard lans, and it switches between eth0 and eth1
[10:33] <NJigelli> if i remove the lan cable ubuntu locks up completely
[10:33] <Digital|O> can i get some help with networking on linux?
[10:34] <NJigelli> but on 7.04 everything works by default
[10:34] <Squeee> NJigellli: are you sure your cable is hooked up right?  (or could it be a bad cable?)
[10:34] <NJigelli> everything is exactly the same as when i ran it on 7.04
[10:34] <Squeee> NJigellli: hold on... you remove the cable... and the system locks up?
[10:34] <NJigelli> and that worked
[10:34] <NJigelli> yes
[10:35] <NJigelli> its very weird
[10:35] <Squeee> ....yes..... yes it is
[10:35] <NJigelli> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2247668
[10:35] <NJigelli> this guy, same mobo, same problem
[10:35] <Squeee> i'm... stumped... I have no idea
[10:35] <thadthudpucker> is there a package for codecs that includes support for .rm extension (for vlc)
[10:35] <NJigelli> but i have to use 6.10 for linuxmce
[10:35] <Equilibrix> Squeee: the error is something like SIOCSIFADDR: No such Device
[10:36] <Squeee> thadthudpucker: I've had veryl little luck getting vlc to play RM, try the realplayer for linux
[10:36] <Crazytom> what's with this eth1:avah
[10:36] <thadthudpucker> and what is that called?
[10:36] <thadthudpucker> i mean the package names
[10:36] <Equilibrix> Squeee: when I list all devices using lspci, I can see the ethernet controller.. but when I use arp to get it's MAC address, nothing is listed
[10:37] <Equilibrix> Squeee: when I try to restart networking, I got this "SIOCSIFADDR: No such Device" error
[10:38] <Squeee> Equilibrix: ok type "dmesg | more" and look through it.  Find that error in there and see what is loaded that is giving that error
[10:38] <thadthudpucker> Squeee: thank you
[10:38] <Squeee> Equilibrix: I'm pretty sure it is networking, but I just wanna see what driver
[10:38] <NJigelli> guess ill be putting xp back on my boxen
[10:38] <forha1> DOes someone know the repository i need to add to be able to download kde applications?
[10:38] <forha1> in synaptic
[10:38] <NJigelli> cos, it kinda works
[10:38] <crimsun> forha1: it's enabled by default.
[10:38] <elite__> :S xp
[10:39] <Squeee> thadthudpucker: no problem
[10:39] <forha1> no its not
[10:39] <thoreauputic> forha1: yes it is :)
[10:39] <Squeee> forhal: yea... it is
[10:39] <crimsun> forha1: yes it is - unless you had absolutely no network connection during that probe step in the installer.
[10:39] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok
[10:39] <forha1> Squeee why did you send me to add repositories then?
[10:39] <forha1> i am confused
[10:39] <Digital|O> HELP: i have very llimited knowledge of ubuntu, ive been trying to get it on the net for 3 weeks, everyting is right the dhcp server, ifconfig seems to be ok, i can ping google in a terminal window, but idont have anything on firefox :S
[10:40] <thadthudpucker> Squeee: ok i just tried to install realplayer from synaptic but it says it is not installable.
[10:40] <Squeee> forhal: Because if you use that list it will contain the originals and a few more.  That way you would be able to install amarok
[10:40] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I'll try to connect here on irc from another computer so I can work with you interactively :)
[10:40] <Matt4781581> my gnome theme is awesome
[10:40] <RainCT> Digital|O: On Firefox: Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Network
[10:41] <Squeee> Equilibrix: ok
[10:41] <Crazytom> Equilibrix, what chipset do you have?
[10:41] <Matt4781581> anyone know how to change the ubuntu main menu icon
[10:41] <crimsun> Matt4781581: see distributor-logo
[10:41] <thadthudpucker> Squeee: never mind, found it, thanks again!
[10:41] <Squeee> thadthudpucker:: http://www.real.com/linux/
[10:41] <Squeee> heh ok
[10:41] <Squeee> np
[10:41] <elite__> damn
[10:42] <Squeee> Digital: type "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf" in a terminal
[10:42] <Matt4781581> where is distributor logo
[10:42] <elite__> this xqf make me mad
[10:43] <RainCT> Matt4781581: http://linfo.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/custom-ubuntu-menu-logo/
[10:43] <Squeee> Digital: When the window comes up, remove any lines that say nameserver.  then add one that says "nameserver 4.2.2.1" to the bottom
[10:43] <xircx> dose eny one use GYach?
[10:43] <Digital|O> it doesnt have any lines :S
[10:43] <Digital|O> its blank!
[10:43] <xircx> i cant get the voice to load for chat rooms
[10:44] <Squeee> Digital: that would probably be your problem.  Close that window and type "sudo dhclient"
[10:44] <Equilibrix> Crazytom: ATI Radeon 9800 PRO
[10:45] <thadthudpucker> Squeee: i just went to the realplayer site and downloaded a bin file, how do i "un-bin" it?
[10:45] <Digital|O> lol...
[10:45] <Crazytom> Equilibrix, that's your video card
[10:45] <anonymousircuser> ./realplayer.bin
[10:46] <Squeee> thadthudpucker: You have to run the .bin.  allow it to execute "chmod a+x realplayer.bin" and then "sudo ./realplayer.bin"
[10:46] <cwill1> !print
[10:46] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[10:46] <Crazytom> Equilibrix, need your wireless chipset
[10:46] <Equilibrix> Crazytom: im not on wireless connection
[10:47] <thadthudpucker> Squeee: ok, trying
[10:47] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, im in the console now, dmesg gives no error related to networking - only some usb 1.1
[10:47] <Squeee> Digital|O, Did that work for you?
[10:48] <Squeee> Equilibrix: type lcpci, what does it say for the ethernet adapter?
[10:48] <Digital|O> Squeee, its saying its sending on a mac address and listening and stuff, also its bound to my routers address
[10:48] <forha1> HELP i did what you suggested Squeee now i get this error:The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:48] <forha1>   amarok: Depends: python-qt3 but it is not going to be installed
[10:48] <forha1> E: Broken packages
[10:49] <Squeee> Digital|O, can you ping google.com? (or visit it in firefox)
[10:49] <Squeee> forhal; "sudo apt-get install -f"
[10:49] <jicecruncher> can anyone tell me how to enable tabs in nautilus? (I'm using feisty)
[10:49] <forha1> ok ty Squeee what does -f mean?
[10:49] <Digital|O> i can ping it
[10:49] <Squeee> fix
[10:49] <Digital|O> but i get a timeout on FF
[10:49] <PloneDudez> hey guys, how can give a collegue of mine sudo access
[10:50] <Equilibrix> Squeee: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8001 Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 13)
[10:50] <ELITE_x> how to fix this prob ? http://pastebin.ca/420616
[10:50] <Squeee> forhal: check out "man apt-get", running ubuntu it is something you should take the time to learn inside and out
[10:50] <thadthudpucker> ok! got it!
[10:50] <Squeee> cool :D
[10:50] <thoreauputic> PloneDudez: ad his username to the admin group
[10:50] <thoreauputic> *add
[10:51] <forha1> Squeee:  -f doesnt work i still get the same eroro
[10:51] <forha1> wrror*
[10:52] <forha1> error*
[10:52] <jenda> Any suggestions for a searching tool? I'm trying Beagle now...
[10:52] <jenda> but don't really like it.
[10:52] <mkquist> hey peeps, anyone know have any idea on how to fix a corrupted partition? fsck says superblock is ccorrupt...
[10:52] <mkquist> *corrupt
[10:52] <Squeee> forhal: try "sudo apt-get install python-qt3"
[10:53] <Equilibrix> Squeee: what next? Ethernet adapter is there, but no eth0 in ifconfig
[10:53] <forha1> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:53] <forha1>   python-qt3: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[10:53] <forha1>               Depends: python-sip4 (>= 4.4.3-1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[10:53] <forha1> E: Broken packages
[10:53] <haku> o, da
[10:53] <Squeee> forhal: are you running edgy or dapper
[10:53] <haku> ooop ssprry
[10:53] <forha1> lol Squeee it keeps getting better
[10:53] <forha1> Squeee:  i am running feisty fawn 7.04
[10:54] <Squeee> equilibrix: sorry i'm just googling for it at the moment, do you know what module is loaded for your wired connection?
[10:54] <haku>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[10:54] <Equilibrix> Squeee: nope, how do I find it out?
[10:54] <Digital|O> Squeee, its still not working, i get a ping reply in a terminal, but a timeout on FireFox
[10:54] <Squeee> >_< forha1 If you dont know how to use apt-get properly you shouldn't be running a development version.  These things break often
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !feisty
[10:54] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:54] <PloneDudez> thoreauputic: i tried adding but the system says he is already in the list.. but when the fellars try to login... It reports that he is not sudoers file
[10:55] <Squeee> Digital|O, try "sudo apt-get update", does that update correctly?
[10:55] <forha1> thats a low blow and really uncalled for because most people that come in  here are solely depending on your wisdom
[10:55] <thoreauputic> PloneDudez: sudo adduser <hisname> admin
[10:55] <Squeee> Equilibrix, I'm looking up the card to find the driver, that should say it
[10:55] <thoreauputic> PloneDudez: then he logs out and in again and he should be OK
[10:55] <forha1> so its you who doesnt know it sionce all i do is ask and follow instructions Squeee
[10:56] <forha1> and you messed it up man
[10:56] <forha1> if you cant help me just say so in  the beginning lol
[10:56] <thoreauputic> PloneDudez: unless your /etc/sudoers is different in some way from default
[10:56] <Digital|O> i get E: unable to lock the list directory
[10:56] <Equilibrix> Squeee: i tried to get the card
[10:56] <Assimilator2> how do i reinstal synaptic it seems to have become unstable ?
[10:57] <haku> hello ... I have a sound card issue I need to resolve ... anybody willing to help? query?
[10:57] <Squeee> forhal: 7.04 is a development version.  Get 6.10, then I can help you.  For all I can tell right now that python-qt3 package is broken or removed right now
[10:57] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: sudo apt-get install --reinstall synaptic
[10:57] <Equilibrix> Squeee: i tried to get the card's MAC address and then tried ifconfig eth0 hw ether my:card's:address but it said No such device
[10:57] <SlimeyPete> Assimilator2: go into a terminal, then type "sudo apt-get remove synaptic ; sudo apt-get install synaptic". It'll ask you for your user password.
[10:57] <Assimilator2> oh two ways
[10:58] <StoneNote> !feisty | forha1
[10:58] <ubotu> forha1: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:58] <Assimilator2> wich is the best way ?
[10:58] <Squeee> Equilibrix, the mac address shouldn't make a difference.
[10:58] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: there are more than two ways actually ")
[10:58] <Assimilator2> heh
[10:58] <SlimeyPete> Assimilator2: both ways will do the same thing. thoreauputic's way involves less typing so I'd go for that ;)
[10:58] <Assimilator2> sweet ok cheers
[10:59] <Equilibrix> Squeee: but it seems the system simply can't find the ethernet device.. the strange thing is that lspci lists it
[10:59] <forha1> well Squeee ubuntu is the n00b os distro of linux thats why i am using it
[10:59] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: if you want to purge the configuration, you can do sudo apt-get remove --putge synaptic && sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:59] <jicecruncher> hi... how can you disable nautilus opening new windows?
[10:59] <thoreauputic> umm s/putge/purge
[10:59] <Digital|O> Squeee i have an E: unable to lock the list dir error
[10:59] <Squeee> Digital|O, Run it as root
[10:59] <Digital|O> how do i do that?
[10:59] <forha1> sudo
[11:00] <Squeee> forhal, By all means, use Ubuntu, it is great, but run ubuntu edgy not ubuntu fiesty, your running something that is known to be unstable right now.
[11:00] <Assimilator2> i get this E: Malformed line 3 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[11:00] <Assimilator2> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[11:00] <Squeee> Digital|O, type "sudo apt-get update"
[11:00] <forha1> ok Squeee
[11:00] <senthil> ?
[11:00] <Assimilator2> should i try thr purge ?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: your /etc/apt/sources.list has a typo or somthing
[11:00] <Squeee> forha1, I can point you in the direction of hte iso for 6.10 if that would help
[11:01] <forha1> i'll just use the gnome one
[11:01] <haku>  I have a sound card issue I need to resolve ... anybody willing to help? query?
[11:01] <crimsun> what issue?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: fix your sources list first
[11:01] <Digital|O> Squeee it wont even connect
[11:01] <haku> i cannot configure 5.1
[11:01] <forha1> i know where to get it
[11:01] <forha1> np
[11:01] <Equilibrix> Squeee: when I restart networking (etc/init.d/networking restart), I get SIOCSIFADDR: No such device error
[11:01] <Assimilator2> how can i do that ?
[11:01] <Squeee> Digital|O, type "ping 4.2.2.1", does t hat show up right?
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2:  gksudo gedit "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[11:02] <Equilibrix> Squeee: eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[11:02] <senthil> Hi can someone tell me the right way to try out the correct screen resolution for my laptop ? I do not know what resolution my laptop screen supports
[11:02] <Squeee> Equilibrix, alright hold on, i'm still trying to find what driver it uses
[11:02] <Digital|O> Squeee yes, i get a ping reply on that
[11:02] <ELITE_x> Squeee please check this : http://pastebin.ca/420628
[11:02] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, thank you
[11:03] <thoreauputic> !easysource | Assimilator2
[11:03] <ubotu> Assimilator2: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:03] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: or reas that
[11:03] <thoreauputic> *read
[11:03] <Squeee> Elite_x try gksu instead of sudo
[11:04] <Squeee> Digital|O, ok, type "sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf"  In that file add the line "nameserver 4.2.2.1" at the end
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: don't forget to reload your sources after fixing them
[11:04] <Squeee> Digital|O, save that and see if you can connect on firefox
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: I think the sources.list is the problem, not synaptic :)
[11:06] <Assimilator2> hmm what kind of typo am i looking for ?
[11:06] <crimsun> haku: I can't receive or respond to messages.
[11:06] <Digital|O> Squeee
[11:06] <Digital|O> it wont let me save it
[11:06] <Digital|O> file not found
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list so we can read it
[11:06] <thoreauputic> !paste | Assimilator2
[11:06] <ubotu> Assimilator2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:07] <Squeee> Equilibrix, It would seem to be a bug in the driver that was recently 'upgraded'.  the best advice I can give you is to follow this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397762&highlight=88E8001
[11:07] <senthil>   hi can someone help me with choosing the correct screen resolution ?
[11:08] <Squeee> Equilibrix, If it takes too long for them to fix, you can manually revert it, but doing that when it isn't really desperately needed will create a headache later
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: I'm on feisty or I'd copy mine for you
[11:08] <Equilibrix> Squeee: thank you, I'll read through that post
[11:08] <Squeee> Equilibrix, your welcome, good luck
[11:08] <xircx> eny one know what Gtk-2 is?
[11:09] <Assimilator2> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13499/
[11:09] <thoreauputic> xircx: GUI toolkit for gnome etc
[11:09] <StoneNote> !grk2 | xircx
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <StoneNote> !gtk2 | xircx
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <xircx> what is Gtk-2 for?
[11:09] <eyalw> looking for a dock and widgets like OSX, i saw a few but they looked bad
[11:09] <xircx> like what dose it do
[11:09] <Squeee> Digital|O, ok try this "sudo su" (type your password and you should now have a # instead of a $).  Now type (echo "nameserver 4.2.2.1" >> /etc/resolv.conf)
[11:10] <StoneNote> !gtk  xircx
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk  xircx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <Squeee> gtk is basically what is used to draw windows in gnome, gtk2 is just a later version of gtk
[11:10] <sorush20> I'm tthinking I shuold get parid support since no one can help me here.. .
[11:10] <thoreauputic> !info libgtk2.0-0
[11:10] <StoneNote> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[11:10] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.6-0ubuntu3.1 (edgy), package size 2420 kB, installed size 5304 kB
[11:11] <Squeee> sorush20 /
[11:11] <Squeee> sorush20 /
[11:11] <dv_> also, gtk is one popular reason for flame wars
[11:11] <dv_> :)
[11:11] <roland_> how do i acces some shared folders i have on a win xp pc from my ubuntu pc(they're connected trough lan)
[11:11] <roland_> smbclient
[11:11] <roland_> ?
[11:11] <Squeee> sorush20, ?
[11:11] <sorush20> Squeee: I have a grub problem..
[11:11] <xircx> well i have gyach and the voice chat dont work
[11:11] <xircx> it wont load
[11:11] <Squeee> sorush20: how so
[11:11] <sorush20> I keep getting the message that kernel panic
[11:11] <Digital|O> Squeeem no such file or directory
[11:11] <forham> Squeee,
[11:11] <forham> ;p
[11:11] <Digital|O> :P
[11:12] <Assimilator2> thoreap: did you get the pastebin
[11:12] <Squeee> forha1, eh?
[11:12] <Digital|O> sorry i over tabbed :P
[11:12] <forham> lol
[11:12] <forham> yeah
[11:12] <sorush20> Squeee: I have a primary hdd with windows and secondary hdd with ubuntu on which hdd should I install the mbr?
[11:12] <forham> i turned my cube to vista againm
[11:12] <forham> ubuntu is on the other side
[11:13] <Squeee> forham: ok
[11:13] <Squeee> sorush20, that depends on which one your bios points to
[11:13] <Squeee> sorush20, If you are getting grub at all, then it is set up right
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: sorry was afk
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: looking now
[11:13] <Assimilator2> cheers
[11:13] <roland_> what is command to install samba server + client on ubuntu
[11:13] <sorush20> Squeee: I'm getting grub but the root file system address is incorrect.
[11:14] <roland_> apt-get ?
[11:14] <Equilibrix> Squeee: the problem with that post is that there's no advice how to solve it :)
[11:14] <Squeee> roland_, You can do samba through "Network servers" in "places" in gnome
[11:14] <Squeee> Equilibrix, It is fairly recent, i'm saying follow it until there is : /
[11:14] <sorush20> I have changed it to (1,0) but grub is still trying to load the (0,0
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: you used automatix - all bets are off, sorry
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: anything could happen from here on
[11:15] <Digital|O> Squeee, there is no such file or dir
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: try commenting out line 2
[11:15] <Assimilator2> ok
[11:15] <roland_> Squeee: Trough that thing gui i can also set up the shares on linux for windows to acces and also acces the windwos shares right?
[11:15] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: line 2 is wrong - dunno how that got there
[11:16] <Squeee> Digital|O, echo >> should replace it or create it if it doesn't exist, are you sure you typed exactly what I said?
[11:16] <Equilibrix> Squeee: maybe it would be more efficient to reinstall.. :(
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: *do not use automatix*
[11:16] <Digital|O> yes
[11:16] <Assimilator2> one or two #'s
[11:16] <Squeee> roland_, as long as it is samba and not nfs
[11:16] <thoreauputic> !automatix | Assimilator2
[11:16] <ubotu> Assimilator2: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:16] <Digital|O> Squeee, i shall try again
[11:17] <Assimilator2> lol did not know automatix was that bad
[11:17] <Squeee> Equilibrix, If you went to fiesty, it might fix it.  but if you reinstall and use edgy, it will upgrade and the same problem will happen again
[11:17] <Squeee> Equilibrix, If possible... I reccomend you wait it out
[11:17] <Assimilator2> guy at work told me to use it
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: it's beenthe bane of our lives ever since it appeared
[11:18] <bjohan> any ideas why the distribution upgrade process is really slow?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: I personally have wasted hours trying to help unfortunate people who used it
[11:18] <Squeee> bjohan: large upgrades?
[11:18] <StoneNote> Digital|O, is your prompt a $ or a #
[11:18] <bjohan> Squeee: most of the cpu is idle and the network connection is hardly used at all :(
[11:19] <Squeee> sorush20, i'm really not sure what to do, if (0,0) or (1,0) dont work, i'm kinda clueless
[11:19] <haku> hi guys! I have a problem with my sound. I wrote it down here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13500/ so when someone has time please peek.
[11:19] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I've heard that the bad xserver update was fixed the same day in the evening.. But I was that unlucky that I updated the system in the morning and then started the computer again the next day..
[11:20] <Squeee> Equilibrix, then upgrade now (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y )
[11:20] <Squeee> Equilibrix, >_< i'm tired, forgot you dont have internet there
[11:20] <johntramp>  hey what can I use to capture from a tv card to avi ?
[11:20] <Equilibrix> Squeee: but I can't connect to internet  :D
[11:20] <Squeee> bjohan, its probably low priority so most users can keep it going in the background
[11:20] <Equilibrix> Squeee: hehe, that's the problem :)
[11:21] <Squeee> Equilibrix, ok, put in the ubuntu livecd (i'm sending you in circles now)
[11:21] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, then what? Reinstall? :)
[11:21] <sorush20> I've changed the menu list to thoes
[11:21] <bjohan> Squeee: it started out quick, the first 100 packages or so in about a minute
[11:21] <Squeee> Equilibrix, you can upgrade the ubuntu installed on your hard drive using the livecd , no reinstall needed
[11:21] <Digital|O> Squeee my prompt is a @ and i typed that line and all i have now on the next line is a > then the cursor
[11:21] <sorush20> where do I buy ubuntu support ?
[11:21] <Squeee> bjohan, Probably a slow mirror then
[11:21] <sorush20> !support
[11:21] <ubotu> The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu (whether you get a response there or not). Please be aware that this channel is mainly for idle chatter.
[11:21] <Equilibrix> Squeee: really, how?
[11:22] <bjohan> Squeee: might be...
[11:22] <Squeee> Digital|O, sorry can you paste back in there exactly what you are typing?
[11:22] <thoreauputic> sorush20: support is linked from the ubuntu.com page
[11:22] <thoreauputic> sorush20: including paid support
[11:22] <Squeee> Equilibrix, heh, get into the cd, its not a one line process
[11:22] <Squeee> Equilibrix, essentially, its called chroot (change root)
[11:23] <Enselic`> Anyone know of a good hardware discussion IRC network/channel?
[11:23] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, system is loading from LiveCD, that will be a while...
[11:23] <Digital|O> (echo "nameserver 4.2.2.1" >> /ect/resolv.conf)
[11:24] <Digital|O> thats what im typing Squeee
[11:24] <Squeee> Digital|O, Heh sorry, do it without the () around it
[11:24] <thoreauputic> Enselic`: there's a #hardware on this network
[11:24] <Digital|O> lol ok!
[11:25] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: that's etc not ect
[11:25] <Digital|O> eh
[11:26] <haku> when someone has time, please peek on my problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13500/
[11:26] <Squeee> Digital|O, lol, if i made that typo when i said it to you that would explain alot
[11:26] <Digital|O> lol
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: the problem with editing /etc/resolv.conf like that is that if you are using dhcp it will be replaced on the next lease
[11:26] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, it's loaded, i'm ready for your instructions
[11:26] <AchiL> Anann Am.
[11:26] <AchiL> Szin
[11:27] <AchiL> Alaynzn Anasn Sikeyim.
[11:27] <Squeee> thoreauputic, yes, but this way we can see if it is his dns server
[11:27] <AchiL> KApatcam Buray
[11:27] <AchiL> Sikiecm kitabnz
[11:27] <AchiL> Squeee
[11:27] <Squeee> thoreauputic, and it can be added permanently if it is a fix
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Squeee: true
[11:27] <AchiL> Tarihini sikeyim.
[11:27] <AchiL> senin
[11:27] <AchiL> p.
[11:27] <AchiL> o.
[11:27] <Squeee> AchiL,  eh?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> anyone know what language that was ?
[11:27] <Squeee> I'm quite curious myself
[11:27] <haku> seems turkish to me
[11:27] <thoreauputic> !tr
[11:27] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:28] <Digital|O> Its turkish :D
[11:28] <Squeee> heh
[11:28] <delcoyote> thanks Squee im following some howto's this looks promising
[11:28] <Squeee> delcoyote, heh no problem
[11:29] <delcoyote> 1 question Sqeee does beryl use CPU till it explodes? :-D
[11:29] <Digital|O> ok Squeee i typed that line in, and it seemed to have entered, what do i do now?
[11:29] <linux1> anybody know how to get lightscribe working on ubuntu?
[11:29] <Squeee> delcoyote, Depends, if you use nvidia or intel for your video card, then no, it puts the weight on the video card, if you use ati, then yes
[11:29] <emo> hi guys anybody know a pdf reader free that I can use in my smartphone apart from adobe ?
[11:29] <Squeee> Digital|O, test firefox
[11:30] <delcoyote> ati :-( anyway thanks a million Sqeee
[11:30] <Digital|O> Squeee, negitive
[11:30] <Equilibrix> Squeee: im ready waiting for instructions
[11:30] <Squeee> Digital|O, ok, I've got one more thing to try before i'm clueless.  Open up a terminal and type "gksu firefox".  This will run firefox as root which probably hasn't been done before, so it uses default settings (dont do that normally)
[11:31] <Squeee> Equilibrix, heh sorry
[11:31] <Squeee> Equilibrix, ok, type sudo mkdir /mnt/target
[11:31] <Squeee> Equilibrix, do you know what device your hard drive is?
[11:31] <haku> when someone has time, please peek at my problem, I wrote it down here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13500/
[11:32] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, I have to mount my linux hard drive, ok? I can manage that
[11:32] <Squeee> yea, mount your hard drive in /mnt/target, and if you have a boot partition /mnt/target/boot
[11:32] <Digital|O> Squeee, thats a no
[11:32] <Equilibrix> Squeee: no, I have everything in one partition
[11:32] <Digital|O> Would it be some kind of firewall?
[11:33] <Squeee> Digital|O, sorry i'm really clueless then.  Unless it is a firewall somehow stopping http traffic i'm not sure
[11:33] <Digital|O> eh
[11:33] <Digital|O> im thinking its a firewall :(
[11:33] <Equilibrix> Squee: done, what next?
[11:34] <Assimilator2> somthing in synaptic is still broken but it's loaded all the packs this time
[11:34] <Squeee> Equilibrix, then you have to mount your /dev/ and your /proc (sudo mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/target/dev/) and (sudo mount -o bind /proc /mnt/target/proc/)
[11:34] <Tarsinion1> HI guys, i'm searching for a nice ogg / mp3 player for ubuntu. Something like an winamp clone. Small gui, easy to use ;-) ... any idea ?
[11:34] <Digital|O> Squeee, i just installed ubuntu with the default settings... im just as puzzled as you are
[11:34] <Squeee> Tarsinion1, xmms i guess
[11:35] <Tarsinion1> Squeee: thanks, will try xmms :-)
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Tarsinion1: try beep media player ( xmms / winamp clone)
[11:35] <sorush20> how do I fix my error can someone help please?
[11:35] <ELITE_x> xmms is rly good
[11:35] <Assimilator2> i have ubuntu and kunbuntu installed it it possile that adept and synaptic have clashed too ?
[11:35] <Squeee> Digital|O, in a terminal what happens if you try to upgrade your system?  I asked you this a second ago but its like 2am here and i'm starting to go braindead
[11:35] <thoreauputic> Tarsinion1: neep is prettier ( otherwise very similar)
[11:35] <thoreauputic> *beep
[11:36] <Squeee> Digital|O, (sudo apt-get update)
[11:36] <Equilibrix> Squeee: it says it cant find /mnt/hda5/dev in fstab or mtab
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: unlikely
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: more likely to be residual evil from aitomatix
[11:36] <ELITE_x> boring :X    http://pastebin.ca/420616
[11:36] <Squeee> Equilibrix, After you type "sudo mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/target/dev/" ?
[11:37] <Equilibrix> Squeee: sorry, I forgot to type in the keyword "bind" :)
[11:37] <Digital|O> Squeee, No route to host
[11:37] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, done, what next?
[11:37] <DARKMAN_DEV> HI all, here is may first question: Why I cannot use "man" (in konsole) for "C/C++" languages
[11:37] <Squeee> Digital|O, If you ping other things like yahoo.com, it actually is saying you get responses right?
[11:38] <Squeee> Equilibrix, "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/target/etc/resolv.conf"
[11:38] <Tarsinion1> Thanks guys, xmms is really nice ;-)
[11:38] <Tarsinion1> will have a look at beep now
[11:38] <Digital|O> Squeee, i just pinged my dedicated server, and yes its ping that, im getting a matching ip back for that serverr
[11:38] <Assimilator2> ok now for my last noob question for tonight on my next ubuntu if i want the stuff that automatix has can i simply put is repo in to synaptic as a third party repo rather than installing automatix?
[11:38] <Squeee> Tarsinion1, Check out listen, that is my favorite (more like itunes though)
[11:39] <freakabcd> DARKMAN_DEV, umm.. thats strange. cos man should by default look in /usr/share/man
[11:39] <RainCT> hi, what's the partition configuration file (where it says what partitions you have, what file format...)?
[11:39] <haku> my sound problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13500/       please peek!
[11:39] <Equilibrix> Squeee: is this safe? Shouldn't I backup that file first?
[11:39] <stian> anybody have a minute to help me out here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398909
[11:39] <bambie> guys i've downloaded ubuntu from pretty much all the mirrors on ubuntu's site and md5 doesn't compares?
[11:39] <bambie> why is that?
[11:39] <Squeee> Assimilator2, check out ubuntuguide.org :P they have instructions to do it without automatix
[11:39] <RainCT> ok found it
[11:39] <freakabcd> DARKMAN_DEV, try this: export MANPATH=/usr/share/man; man printf
[11:39] <Squeee> Equilibrix, dont worry about it, it gets reset every time you restart your computer or recieve a new ip address
[11:40] <Assimilator2> ok will do
[11:40] <Tarsinion1> Squeee: I'm not a fan of itunes to be honest ;-). but will have a look at listen as well.
[11:40] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: on feisty a lot of this becomes unnecessary - you get a gui prompt if the system can't find a codec etc
[11:40] <stian> i gotta, go get the phone for a minute, but if anyone has an idea about my following problem (see link), i'd really appreciate it if you could PM me (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398909)
[11:40] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, done
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[11:40] <thoreauputic> !restricted | Assimilator2
[11:40] <ubotu> Assimilator2: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:40] <Squeee> Equilibrix, resolv.conf tells your computer where to look for its dns server.  This is taking the one that the livecd has generated and putting it in your drive
[11:40] <Tarsinion1> I just love that, joining the channel and getting answers and hints! :-D
[11:40] <Squeee> Equilibrix, ok now type "sudo chroot /mnt/target"
[11:41] <Tarsinion1> Elite_x: cool!
[11:41] <ELITE_x> :)
[11:41] <Equilibrix> Squeee: great, i'm in, what now?
[11:41] <Enselic`> Hello, can I mount a mATX motherboard in a ATX chassi?
[11:41] <Assimilator2> sweet being a noob to linux i tryed fiesty kubuntu but it was unstable so in installed edgy ubuntu/kubuntu
[11:41] <Zubbb> hello, do I need something special to copy double layer dvds or dd+growisofs are enough?
[11:41] <ELITE_x> Tarsinion1 few gtk theme have xmms skin too
[11:42] <Assimilator2> very much looking foward to a stable rls pf fiesty
[11:42] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: yes, feisty is not for newbies - but it is almost there now :)
[11:42] <Squeee> Digital|O, the point i'm trying to get across, is your network turning yahoo.com into an ip address to ping?
[11:42] <chrismhampson> a dual boot windows and ubuntu. I installed the apparently brilliant comodo firewall that passes all known leak tests. Would the ubuntu firewall do the same or can it only deal with incoming attacks?
[11:42] <ELITE_x> anyone tired fluxbuntu ?
[11:42] <Digital|O> Squeee yes it is
[11:42] <Squeee> Digital|O, Actually, in firefox try to go to http://64.233.167.99 where does that take you?
[11:42] <thoreauputic> ELITE_x: yes - OK but a bit rough around the edges IMO
[11:43] <ELITE_x> heh
[11:43] <Digital|O> HAHAAH!
[11:43] <ELITE_x> i use fluxbuntu on my lappy
[11:43] <Squeee> chrismhampson, check out iptables, you can take complete control of what goes in and out of your system
[11:43] <xircx> why when i try to inport a folder to music player from a flash drive i get errors?
[11:43] <Tarsinion1> Elite_X: how do i install the skins for xmms ?
[11:44] <Assimilator2> being a windows nerd for 15 years and an amiga/c64 nerd before that i've found that switch to linux not that painfull this time around
[11:44] <chrismhampson> Squeee: is this all configurable through a frontend like firestarter?
[11:44] <Squeee> Equilibrix, "type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:44] <Digital|O> Squeee, it takes me to the google hopepage
[11:44] <ELITE_x> download it and put it to .xmms/skins
[11:44] <Tarsinion1> kk thanks :-)
[11:44] <Squeee> chrismhampson, I may be wrong... but I thought firestarter was a frontend to configure iptables
[11:44] <Squeee> Digital|O, ok, then your problem is that your dns server is bad.
[11:44] <forha1> http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=feistyvistaos5.jpg <-- this is what i meant earlier Squeee
[11:44] <chrismhampson> Squeee: then we agree!
[11:45] <Digital|O> Squeee, how do i fix that
[11:45] <ELITE_x> or use synaptic to get more skin there is a skinpack
[11:45] <Squeee> chrismhampson, heh i suppose
[11:45] <xircx> the gstreaner plugins to decode "mp3"files cannot be found
[11:45] <benoitc> hi
[11:45] <xircx> what the hell
[11:45] <Squeee> xircx: look through ubuntuguide.org
[11:45] <haku> >_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13500/ <_<
[11:45] <chrismhampson> Squeee: it's just on other distros like PCLinuxOS it seems like all that I can configure is incoming internet connections (web server, file server etc)...nothing about outgoing
[11:46] <Squeee> Digital, type in a terminal "gksu network-admin"
[11:46] <Squeee> chrismhampson, I dont use firestarter, but It should be possible to directly control iptables and do that
[11:46] <benoitc> i'm trying to install edgy on computer with nvidia card. It start but I have a blank screen after the load of kernel
[11:46] <benoitc> any idee ?
[11:46] <benoitc> I tried noapic nolapic but it changed nothing
[11:47] <Digital|O> Squeee. and then?
[11:47] <Squeee> Digital|O, type "gksu network-admin"
[11:47] <chrismhampson> Squeee: thanks for your help...I'll check out iptables
[11:47] <Squeee> chrismhampson, your welcome
[11:47] <Digital|O> Squeee, done that :P
[11:47] <Squeee> go to the DNS tab
[11:47] <Equilibrix> Squeee: done, now I should restart, right?
[11:47] <Squeee> Equilibrix,  yep
[11:47] <Tarsinion1> beep is nice as well, trough.
[11:47] <Digital|O> Squeee, it says 10.1.1.1
[11:48] <Squeee> Digital|O, click on it and click delete
[11:48] <Digital|O> Squeee, done
[11:48] <Squeee> Digital|O, then click add and type in 4.2.2.1
[11:48] <txabi> Hi, i can't get working a BenQ FP202W LCD monitor with intel 915G at 1680x1050. I get a out of sync error. Tried modelines, faked bios native resolutions with 915resolution. Any hint? Anyone has had success? Thnx.
[11:48] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I had to run dist-upgrade with -f parameter, because of some dependencies.. I hope it did everything right
[11:48] <Squeee> Digital|O, firefox should work now
[11:48] <ubuntu_noob> partition
[11:49] <quick_nick> has same problem had to tinker with xorg.conf
[11:49] <Squeee> Equilibrix, If you left it so that you could type in "sudo apt-get install -f" and it made no more changes then you should be fine
[11:49] <Digital|O> Squeee, yes it does.... thank you so much :D
[11:49] <Squeee> your welcome :D
[11:50] <Squeee> Does anyone know how to fix circle dependencies in an initramfs script?
[11:50] <Equilibrix> Squeee: it's bad, it doesn't work :(
[11:50] <Squeee> How so?
[11:50] <Squeee> same problem? or more problems?
[11:50] <Equilibrix> Squeee: maybe I should try downgrading that xserver-xorg
[11:51] <DARKMAN_DEV> some help for me?
[11:51] <Equilibrix> Squeee: same problem
[11:51] <Squeee> Equilibrix, X crash?
[11:51] <Equilibrix> Squeee: yes
[11:51] <DARKMAN_DEV> some help for me?
[11:51] <Squeee> ok, go into a terminal (ctrl alt f1)
[11:51] <Squeee> DARKMAN_DEV: just ask, dont ask to ask
[11:51] <forham> Squeee,
[11:51] <Assimilator2> any word on if beryl is going to be put into the feisty rls ?
[11:52] <Squeee> forham: yes?
[11:52] <forham> hi
[11:52] <safer> How do I get a dc client?
[11:52] <Squeee> hi
[11:52] <varka> is the asus p5b-vm with intel G965 chipset and ALC883 HD-audio fully compatible to ubuntu at least 7.04??
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: Compiz is in - Beryl is amazing but an unstable lady  :)
[11:52] <haku> oh well I see people are busy. have a nice day, I'll try again later if I do not succeed. *crawls back to his lair*
[11:52] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: both work fine here though
[11:52] <Squeee> varka, burn the livecd and find out
[11:53] <varka> Squeee: i want to know before i buy :P
[11:53] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: beryl is in universe for feisty
[11:53] <Assimilator2> yeah beryl seem to be more stable under gnome rather than kde
[11:53] <Squeee> varka: I would imagine it would, ubuntu is the most compaitble os i've ever used
[11:53] <DARKMAN_DEV> crtl+alt+f1 = it is dead
[11:53] <safer> How can I acquire a DC client??
[11:53] <Digital|O> Squeee, next problem.... i would like to set up a webserver :P where do istart?
[11:53] <Squeee> Digital|O, lol
[11:53] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: beryl on ppc is ... umm .. interestingly unpredictable :)
[11:54] <Assimilator2> ppc ?
[11:54] <Squeee> Digital|O, on this same computer?
[11:54] <varka> Squeee: i need a definite answer from somebody who uses it himself
[11:54] <Digital|O> Squeee, yes
[11:54] <Squeee> varka, Try posting in the forums, you will get more views that way
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: ppc arch - mac before intel ( iBook G4)
[11:54] <freakabcd> ohayou gozai
[11:54] <freakabcd> wtf!
[11:54] <freakabcd> sorry
[11:54] <Squeee> Digital|O, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Apache_HTTP_Server
[11:54] <thoreauputic> Assimilator2: I run feisty on my laptop :)
[11:54] <Assimilator2> ahh
[11:54] <freakabcd> this scim is driving me crazy
[11:54] <Squeee> Digital|O, actually scratch taht
[11:55] <Digital|O> Squeee ok
[11:55] <freakabcd> 
[11:55] <Assimilator2> yeah i'm doing all my linux testing on my lappy
[11:55] <Equilibrix> Squeee: too bad, I was really hoping that will help :( I'll try that chroot thing again, maybe I forgot something..
[11:55] <Squeee> Digital|O, Apache php mysql?
[11:55] <Assimilator2> have a medion 95400
[11:55] <safer> dc client............. how to get one?? am I invisible here? lol
[11:56] <Terrasque> safer: yes, noone can see what you type
[11:56] <Equilibrix> Squeee: How can I find out what xserver-xorg version I have installed? I suppose it
[11:56] <Digital|O> Squeee, i would just like to be able to run a small website from home!
[11:56] <Squeee> Equilibrix, hold on, x crashed, but go into a terminal we should be able to change to the backup driver
[11:56] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I suppose it's some parameter in apt-get
[11:56] <thoreauputic> safer: apt-cache search dcc client ( or search in synaptic)
[11:57] <Squeee> Digital|O, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:57] <Digital|O> Squeee, thank you :D
[11:57] <Squeee> Digital|O, your welcome :D
[11:57] <Squeee> Equilibrix, on that computer right now, p push ctrl+alt+f1
[11:57] <Squeee> then login
[11:57] <thoreauputic> safer: any decent irc clinet does dcc anyway
[11:57] <thoreauputic> *client
[11:57] <ELITE_x> squeee du u code?
[11:58] <ELITE_x> Squeee
[11:58] <ELITE_x> sorry
[11:58] <Assimilator2> my desktop is abit old and has a 3 year old xp instal on it and acts a media server for my xboxes XBMC :-)
[11:58] <thoreauputic> !enter
[11:58] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:58] <safer> thx alot
[11:58] <Terrasque> thoreauputic: direct connect, as in DC, as in DC++ maybe?
[11:58] <Assimilator2> would like to switch it to linux
[11:58] <thoreauputic> Terrasque: ah
[11:58] <Squeee> ELITE_x, I know some c and a bit of python, what is your question
[11:58] <safer> that's what i meant
[11:59] <Assimilator2> is samba share easy to set up ?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> safer: OK sory I misread
[11:59] <eyeonus> I'm having a problem booting my computer- I've taken a look at the drive with the Live CD and everything appears to be there. Anyway to fix the boot sequence from the Live login?
[11:59] <thoreauputic> *sorry
[11:59] <safer> its fine
[11:59] <ELITE_x> if u have time connect here : irc.rizon.net #nixcoders or www.nixcoders.org
[11:59] <Squeee> Assimilator2, ubuntuguide.org, look for samba, they have a really good guide to setting it up
[11:59] <safer> i just  know i can't use valknut
[12:00] <thoreauputic> ELITE_x: you seem to have trouble typing the word "you" ....
[12:00] <Assimilator2> cheers
[12:00] <ELITE_x> ok :S
[12:00] <thoreauputic> ;p
[12:00] <therapy> is there a good video editor for linux?
[12:01] <Squeee> therapy, Kino cinelerrar or even blender
[12:01] <Squeee> cinelerra*
[12:01] <thoreauputic> therapy: short and easy answer: no longer answer: yes, but it isn't user firendly ( cinelerra )
[12:01] <ELITE_x> rly nice chenal
[12:01] <ELITE_x> lol
[12:02] <Squeee> ELITE_x, Why did I join the other channel?
[12:02] <rpc> any ideas why would cp command eat up to 100% of my dual core? just when moving files between disks
[12:02] <jburd> Apparently, ELITE_x has problems *typing.*
[12:02] <Squeee> rpc: if you dont have dma enabled, it passes everything through your cpu
[12:02] <therapy> sorry, just had a problem with xchat
[12:02] <thoreauputic> ELITE_x: lolz u rly R rticulate rnt u ? ;P
[12:02] <rpc> Squeee those are sata drives, ain't udma enabled by default?
[12:03] <therapy> so i'll have to ask again, is there a good video editor for linux?
[12:03] <ELITE_x> :P
[12:03] <stian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398909
[12:03] <thoreauputic> :)
[12:03] <rpc> Squeee i'm going crazy about this problem, any ideas how to debug it?
[12:03] <rpc> [11:59:06]  <rpc> 1  [#*************************************************100.0%]      Tasks: 54 total, 1 running
[12:03] <rpc> [11:59:06]  <rpc>   2  [**************************************************100.0%]      Load average: 0.39 0.35 1.12
[12:03] <mwe> !paste | rpc
[12:03] <ubotu> rpc: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:03] <rpc> that's what i get when running cp... while cp is 0.7% itself...
[12:04] <rpc> mwe note: LARGE texts
[12:04] <Squeee> rpc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[12:04] <rpc> Squeee hmm thank you, checking..
[12:04] <genii> !kino
[12:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <eyeonus> Anyone here capable of helping me fix my computer? It refuses to boot up, I'm using the installation disk to run the 'test OS'.
[12:04] <Digital|O> Squeee, what the hell is 4.2.2.1 (question from out head IT guy at work)
[12:04] <genii> hmm
[12:04] <ELITE_x> spam?
[12:04] <mwe> rpc: any text. you've been warned. ops are usually picky about it
[12:04] <Squeee> Digital|O, 4.2.2.1 is the level3 dns server, it is what I use as my failsafe for dns servers
[12:04] <rpc> mwe and who the hell are you?
[12:04] <rpc> damn moron.
[12:05] <Squeee> Digital|O, 4.2.2.2 is the backup :p
[12:05] <Digital|O> ok thank you
[12:05] <Squeee> Digital|O, your welcome
[12:05] <BQuadra> salve a tutti
[12:05] <BQuadra> salve a tutti :)
[12:05] <eyeonus> Hello? Am I being ignored? Is there a line I need to wait in?
[12:05] <rpc> absolutely disgusting
[12:05] <apokryphos> ubotu: coc | rpc
[12:05] <ubotu> rpc: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[12:06] <rpc> apokryphos you really think that pasting TWO LINES is a PROBLEM?
[12:06] <rpc> apokryphos and if i made it one liner, would it be a problem still?
[12:06] <thoreauputic> rpc: cool it please
[12:06] <apokryphos> rpc: the problem is your reaction to what was said.
[12:06] <rpc> apokryphos that idiot just quit
[12:06] <rpc> so he was simply playing with me thus my reaction
[12:06] <apokryphos> rpc: stop
[12:06] <rpc> later.
[12:06] <rpc> no help here, just wasting time..
[12:07] <ELITE_x> lol
[12:07] <basia> czesc
[12:08] <Squeee> eyeonus what goes wrong exactly?
[12:08] <Assimilator2> is there a gui for samba  i'd dont feel comftable with all that command line i'm likely to give the whole world access :D
[12:09] <Matic`Makovec> Hrm...this maybe isn't completly Ubuntu question but still...Does anyone know how could I turn off that speaker inside computer that does that annoying beep sound?
[12:09] <eyeonus> When I start up the computer, is locks up at the point when GRUB should be running. Instead, there is nothing but a blinking _
[12:09] <Matic`Makovec> I noticed it's only so annoying on Ubuntu
[12:09] <Squeee> Matic`Makovec, "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr" (temporary solution)
[12:09] <Matic`Makovec> It never did so much sound on Debian :x
[12:09] <Terrasque> Matic`Makovec: Take a hammer. Apply to speaker.
[12:09] <Matic`Makovec> Squeee, thank you
[12:09] <Squeee> Matic`Makovec, that is what I do to kill it
[12:09] <Squeee> Matic`Makovec, Your welcome :P
[12:10] <Matic`Makovec> Terrasque, sounds like a permanent solution!
[12:10] <Terrasque> a good one :)
[12:10] <Equilibrix> Squeee: sorry, Im here again, sorry for the delay.. ok, im in console now
[12:11] <Squeee> Equilibrix, heh ok type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:11] <ELITE_x> damn i cant play on kubuntu feisty with xqf :S
[12:11] <thoreauputic> Matic`Makovec: in X , do xset b off
[12:11] <genii> !info kinoplus
[12:12] <ubotu> kinoplus: effect plug-ins for kino. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.5-3build1 (edgy), package size 81 kB, installed size 280 kB
[12:12] <genii> !info kino
[12:12] <ubotu> kino: Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 0.90-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1093 kB, installed size 3860 kB
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Matic`Makovec: in a tty, setterm -blength 0  if I remember correctly
[12:12] <Equilibrix> Squeee: I prefer vim, but ok, im there :)
[12:12] <Squeee> Equilibrix, whichever works,
[12:12] <chrismhampson> is it possible to update system via NTP behind a NAT router?
[12:12] <mneptok> yes
[12:12] <Squeee> Equilibrix, search for Section "Device"
[12:12] <genii> !info kino > therapy
[12:13] <Equilibrix> Squeee: done
[12:13] <Squeee> Equilibrix, change whatever is in driver "(drivername" to driver "vesa"
[12:13] <eyeonus> So, any help?
[12:13] <h3x0r> hey does anyone know hoe to install cedega?
[12:13] <Equilibrix> Squeee: ok, then reboot? Or just type "gdm" ?
[12:13] <Squeee> Equilibrix, "startx"
[12:14] <Squeee> h3x0r, Pay for it, they release a free version but you have to be a master coder to fix all the bugs they purposely put in.  Buy it or use wine
[12:14] <Matic`Makovec> thoreauputic, I'll check what's there about it, thank you
[12:14] <h3x0r> thanks Squee, do you know if wine can play Battlefield 2142 ?
[12:15] <Equilibrix> Squeee: Fatal server error
[12:15] <thoreauputic> Matic`Makovec: those command should work as temporary silencers anyway
[12:15] <Equilibrix> Squeee: failed to initialize core devices
[12:15] <Squeee> Equilibrix, I'm not sure : /
[12:15] <Squeee> h3x0r, http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2424 Yes it can
[12:15] <Digital|O> Squeee, how do i install unrealircd on my linux machine?
[12:15] <thoreauputic> Matic`Makovec: you can also turn off the "bell" in gnome-terminal ( edit your profile there)
[12:15] <Matic`Makovec> Good idea :)
[12:15] <Matic`Makovec> Thanks
[12:16] <Equilibrix> I'll try rebooting
[12:16] <h3x0r> Thanks Squee :)
[12:16] <Squeee> Digital|O, is that an irc server?
[12:16] <eyeonus> If it helps, I have Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.
[12:17] <Digital|O> Squeee
[12:17] <Digital|O> yes
[12:17] <Equilibrix> Squeee: nothing.. still crashes, even with vesa
[12:17] <Squeee> Digital|O, Setting irc servers up really sucks... I've had success with ircd-hybrid and that one is installable by sudo apt-get install ircd-hybrid
[12:17] <girley> hey there
[12:17] <Squeee> Equilibrix, I'm not sure then : /
[12:18] <girley> what
[12:18] <Digital|O> Squeee, i know how to config them i dont know how to install the program tho
[12:18] <girley> your mad
[12:18] <SlimeyPete> Digital|O: look on the project website for a .deb file. You can download that and install it with dpkg.
[12:18] <girley> i know
[12:18] <girley> git
[12:19] <Squeee> Digital|O, Install packages (sudo apt-get install <packagename>)  Search for packages (sudo apt-cache search <packagename>) Update package lists (sudo apt-get update)
[12:19] <girley> got it
[12:19] <Equilibrix> Squeee: you did your best, man, I really appreciate that very much! I wish there were more people like you! But it seems there's no other way than reinstalling the system
[12:19] <Digital|O> thank you
[12:19] <thoreauputic> Squeee: actually apt-cache search doesn't need sudo :)
[12:19] <girley> what do you do
[12:19] <Squeee> Equilibrix, your very welcome... I'm not normally one to recommend it, but try fiesty if you are reinstalling... it works better on a few of my computers with hardware support
[12:20] <Squeee> thoreauputic, habit ^_^
[12:20] <girley> slimy gits
[12:20] <thoreauputic> Squeee: yes, harmless enough :)
[12:20] <Squeee> girley: ?
[12:20] <girley> very good
[12:20] <jhaig> On a laptop, is it possible to have a dual head monitor using the external connector, instead of just having two copies of the same desktop?
[12:20] <thoreauputic> girley: umm - do you have something on-topic to ask or say?
[12:21] <girley> i like you,squee
[12:21] <girley> yes i do
[12:21] <Squeee> ok
[12:21] <Equilibrix> Squeee: but EE was running great till that unlucky update
[12:21] <girley> what is liopn king
[12:21] <Squeee> Equilibrix, Yes, but if you ever upgrade i'm afraid it will do the exact same thing and put you in that same situation
[12:22] <girley> lion king
[12:22] <ELITE_x> fast one :D
[12:22] <xircx> why dont my side pannel on my desktop show the song im play'in in rythmbox
[12:22] <SlimeyPete> jhaig: I believe so. In Kubuntu there's an option in system settings -> monitor, not sure about standard Ubuntu.
[12:22] <Equilibrix> Squeee: and it's possible to upgrade from FF beta to the final, which should be released on 19.4 without reinstalling the whole system?
[12:22] <baktaah> xircx u need a plugin
[12:22] <Squeee> xircx: depends on what side panel you have
[12:22] <Squeee> Equilibrix, Yes
[12:23] <xircx> where do i get the plugins
[12:23] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and then do a "grub-install /dev/hda" (if hda is your primary hard disk)
[12:23] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: you may have to tell the CD to boot from your existing linux installation first, though
[12:23] <jhaig> SlimeyPete: Thanks.
[12:23] <ELITE_x> still cant fix it :X http://pastebin.ca/420700
[12:23] <Squeee> Equilibrix, I would warn you that fiesty can lead to random crashes and errors but you've got worse on your edgy there then i've had on my feisty machineds
[12:24] <fwedew> hello, anyone knows how can i troubleshoot google earth running VERY slow? i have core due 2ghz and 1gb ram
[12:24] <Equilibrix> Squeee: because I really don't want to reinstall it again from scratch :)
[12:24] <stian> guys, come on??
[12:24] <stian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2390068#post2390068
[12:24] <xircx> i have sidecandy rhythmbox 0.71
[12:24] <Squeee> fwedew, you need 3d accelleration
[12:24] <Squeee> Equilibrix, You shouldn't have to
[12:24] <eyeonus> It won't boot that way, either. It says "Booting from Hard Drive", and on a new line there's just a blinking '_'.
[12:24] <thoreauputic> fwedew: graphics card issue
[12:24] <pokingfun> fwedew: somebody said c2d wass the god
[12:24] <baktaah> Could someone please help me put up a VNC server so i can login and see my computer from school (view it graphically)
[12:24] <Squeee> I'm going to bed... its like 3:30 am here, bye all
[12:25] <fwedew> how can i check for 3d accelleration?
[12:25] <Fujitsu> baktaah: System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[12:25] <baktaah> Fujitsu it doesnt work
[12:25] <stefg> baktaah: if using gnome: sudo aptitude install vino
[12:25] <thoreauputic> fwedew:  glxinfo | grep direct
[12:25] <pokingfun> fwedew: glxgears? what did you et?
[12:25] <Fujitsu> fwedew: Open up a terminal, and type `glxinfo | grep direct'. If there's a yes, it's on.
[12:25] <pokingfun> s/et/get
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: hmm, odd. Are you sure you're using the correct livecd for your hardware?
[12:25] <Fujitsu> baktaah: That's not a very useful explanation.
[12:25] <fwedew> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[12:25] <fwedew> direct rendering: Yes
[12:25] <baktaah> stefg got vino, how do I put it up?
[12:25] <Fujitsu> fwedew: You have 3D acceleration.
[12:25] <pokingfun> ...
[12:25] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Are you behind a router?
[12:26] <eyeonus> It's the exact CD I used to install it in the first place.
[12:26] <fwedew> yea.. i installed gfx driver
[12:26] <pokingfun> Fujitsu: what's a router?
[12:26] <baktaah> Fujitsu not any more
[12:26] <fwedew> but for some reason when i just simply zoom on google earth
[12:26] <Fujitsu> baktaah: How are you connected to the internet?
[12:26] <baktaah> Fujitsu ..ofc
[12:26] <thoreauputic> fwedew: what fps  does   glxgears -printfps  report ?
[12:26] <baktaah> Fujitsu how do I test my remote desktop?
[12:26] <fwedew> it just gets  stuck for a 15 seconds
[12:26] <stefg> baktaah: then you have the server component already running on your home box. You'll need vncviewer on the remote box and the IP of your home ox to be able to see it
[12:26] <fwedew> 5311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1062.073 FPS
[12:26] <pokingfun> Fujitsu: a wi-fi card and a free wireless network?
[12:27] <baktaah> stefg am I able to try it via my own computer?
[12:27] <thoreauputic> fwedew: that should be enough ...
[12:27] <fwedew> 20345 frames in 5.0 seconds = 4068.632 FPS
[12:27] <pokingfun> fwedew: 0.0 1062fps, hahahahaha
[12:27] <thoreauputic> fwedew: that's more than enough :)
[12:27] <fwedew> so... what do u say? :\
[12:27] <stefg> baktaah: no... you'd need a separate (possibly virtual) computer
[12:27] <pokingfun> 0.0 4068fps? hahahahaha
[12:27] <thoreauputic> fwedew: no idea then
[12:27] <baktaah> stefg wanna see if it works for me?
[12:27] <baktaah> Fujitsu  wanna try and see if it works for me
[12:28] <fwedew> :(
[12:28] <pokingfun> fwedew: are you using a fx5200 or something?
[12:28] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Is it turned on properly?
[12:28] <fwedew> i'm using intel card
[12:28] <baktaah> Fujitsu yes
[12:28] <stefg> baktaah: http://www.realvnc.com/faq.html
[12:28] <Fujitsu> It drops by connection.
[12:28] <Fujitsu> *my
[12:29] <fwedew> dell inspiron laptop
[12:29] <pokingfun> does intel know what a gpu is?
[12:29] <fwedew> i think its intel gma 950
[12:29] <baktaah> stefg that doesnt help much
[12:29] <fwedew> or 945
[12:29] <Fujitsu> fwedew: That should be fine... I have an i915 and it's fine.
[12:29] <pokingfun> oh
[12:29] <stefg> baktaah: how is your home box connected? Router with firewall?
[12:29] <baktaah> stefg that doesnt help at all
[12:29] <baktaah> stefg omfg...... it doesnt matter I dont got a router or a firewall
[12:29] <Fujitsu> baktaah: It sends me a response, then drops the connection...
[12:29] <jhaig> SlimeyPete: Regarding the question about dual head monitors on a laptop, will the feature be available if I install kubuntu-desktop onto ubuntu?  I think that it should, but I've not tried.
[12:29] <pokingfun> fwedew: does it eat your main memory?
[12:29] <stefg> baktaah: so how?
[12:29] <fwedew> i know it should be fine fujitsu
[12:29] <fwedew> but its not working
[12:30] <baktaah> Fujitsu how do u know thje IP ?
[12:30] <SlimeyPete> jhaig: I've not tried either, but installing kubuntu-desktop shouldn't break anything so you may as well try it and see :)
[12:30] <fwedew> it is using 145mb of ram
[12:30] <pokingfun> O.o
[12:30] <Fujitsu> baktaah: I can see it in your hostname...
[12:30] <eyeonus> Um, hello?
[12:30] <baktaah> Fujitsu okay
[12:30] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: hi
[12:30] <fwedew> too much?
[12:30] <baktaah> Fujitsu and stefg how do kill all VNC ?
[12:30] <eyeonus> Um, help?
[12:30] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: I'm not sure what's going wrong for you tbh
[12:30] <Fujitsu> baktaah: killall vino
[12:30] <baktaah> Fujitsu  no.. ALL VNC?=
[12:30] <jhaig> SlimeyPete: OK, I may try that.  I might reinstall when Feisty comes out anyway.
[12:31] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: 's a difficult problem to help with, given that there are no error messages or anything
[12:31] <Fujitsu> baktaah: What do you mean?
[12:31] <baktaah> 'vino: no process killed
[12:31] <baktaah> even though I have remote desktop on
[12:31] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: have you tried Ubuntu Fiesty? It has a newer kernel so it might work better
[12:31] <thoreauputic> baktaah: ps aux | grep vnc ; kill <pid>
[12:31] <baktaah> thoreauputic wjhats pid?
[12:31] <eyeonus> Is there a way to replace the bootloader from within the Live OS demo?
[12:31] <Tarsinion1> One question, i just deleted some files on my usb-stick but there is still space in use ...
[12:32] <thoreauputic> baktaah: process ID number
[12:32] <baktaah> omfg that this is so hard to put up a VNC
[12:32] <Fujitsu> baktaah: `lsof | grep 5900' will show you what is running instead of vino.
[12:32] <fwedew> pokingfun, do u know what might be the issue?
[12:32] <Fujitsu> baktaah: It seems that another VNC server is running.
[12:32] <Tarsinion1> how can i format or delete the files on my usb disk so that all space is available again ?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> baktaah: Fujitsu 's idea is better
[12:32] <pokingfun> fwedew: not sure
[12:32] <baktaah> vino-serv 5741    baktaah   17u     IPv4      13719                 TCP *:5900 (
[12:32] <Tarsinion1> the usb disk is empty but still 84 mb from 512 available :(
[12:32] <Fujitsu> OK, that looks fine :(
[12:32] <fwedew> should it take 140mb of ram?
[12:32] <fwedew> or its too much?
[12:32] <fwedew> cause i have 500 free at the moment
[12:33] <stefg> Tarsinion1: even an empty filesystem needs some space for metadata (e.g. a FAT and a backup of it on FAT32)
[12:33] <Fujitsu> Tarsinion1: It's probably in the .Trash directory on the USB disk.
[12:33] <thoreauputic> baktaah: so if you want to kill it kill 5741
[12:33] <StoneNote> Tarsinion1, see if it put it into a hidden directory called .Trash-001 or something similar. from the command lin cd to your usb and type ls -la
[12:33] <Tarsinion1> ahh
[12:33] <baktaah> thoreauputic how?
[12:33] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Try killall vino-serv
[12:33] <Tarsinion1> right, there was a .trash folder ;-).
[12:33] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Then disable and reenable it in System->Preferences
[12:33] <Tarsinion1> good to know :P
[12:33] <StoneNote> yup
[12:33] <thoreauputic> baktaah: umm -  kill command - see   man signal
[12:33] <baktaah> Fujitsu done
[12:33] <eyeonus> It's not a problem with the OS, it's a problem with the boot. Is there a way to replace the bootloader from within the Live OS demo?
[12:34] <baktaah> baktaah@baktaah:~$ ps aux | grep vnc ; kill 5741
[12:34] <baktaah> baktaah   5916  0.0  0.0   2800   760 pts/0    S+   12:34   0:00 grep vnc
[12:34] <baktaah> bash: kill: (5741) - No such process
[12:34] <pokingfun> eyeonus: what's the reason to do that?
[12:34] <Tarsinion1> Thanks ;-D
[12:34] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Is the internet connection plugged directory into your computer?
[12:34] <Fujitsu> baktaah: That's all fine, it must be another problem.
[12:34] <baktaah> Fujitsu  I am not an idiot.
[12:34] <Tarsinion1> mhm now there is 195 MB from 512 avaialble ...
[12:34] <Tarsinion1> any other hints ;-D ?
[12:34] <thoreauputic> baktaah: you misunderstood
[12:34] <baktaah> I AM on the computer
[12:34] <stefg> baktaah: iirc it's 'vino-server'
[12:34] <baktaah> Im talking with u as we speak
[12:34] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: there might be. You'll need to look for info on grub-install and see if there's a way to specify which config files it should use. You could then boot the liveCD, create your own config files and use grub-install to install them to your hd
[12:34] <baktaah> stefg yeah I killed that too
[12:34] <eyeonus> BECAUSE MY COMPUTER WON'T BOOT, AS I'VE SAID MANY TIMES.
[12:34] <baktaah> no proccess
[12:35] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Connected DIRECTLY, not via a network or anything?
[12:35] <rambo3> eyeonus, try booting your computer
[12:35] <thoreauputic> !caps
[12:35] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:35] <baktaah> Fujitsu yes
[12:35] <_creepyz0r> does unrar-free support extracting multiple rar files ( r00 , r01 , r02 . ..... etc)
[12:35] <eyeonus> @SlimeyPete: thank you, I'll try that.
[12:35] <Fujitsu> baktaah: It's possible that your ISP is blocking it.
[12:35] <baktaah> holy shit windows is so much better then this with a gui and no problems
[12:35] <baktaah> Fujitsu  Fuck no?!
[12:35] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: please don't get angry. Remember that we're all volunteers here - people are giving up their time in order to try to help you.
[12:35] <baktaah> Fujitsu  listen
[12:35] <baktaah> its not an internet problem
[12:35] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Please keep the channel family-friendly.
[12:35] <baktaah> its an application problem
[12:35] <baktaah> Fujitsu  will do
[12:35] <thoreauputic> !language baktaah
[12:35] <safer> hey how come when I load a cd I don't see the data in /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1
[12:36] <_creepyz0r> does unrar-free support extracting multiple rar files ( r00 , r01 , r02 . ..... etc)
[12:36] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Try `telnet localhost 5900' and see if you get disconnected.
[12:36] <safer> and it doesn't auto play
[12:36] <rambo3> _creepyz0r, it does
[12:36] <_creepyz0r> rambo3, what switch
[12:36] <rambo3> _creepyz0r, use file-roller
[12:36] <_creepyz0r> file-roller ?
[12:36] <baktaah> baktaah@baktaah:~$ telnet localhost 5900
[12:36] <baktaah> Trying 127.0.0.1...
[12:36] <baktaah> Connected to localhost.
[12:36] <baktaah> Escape character is '^] '.
[12:36] <baktaah> RFB 003.007
[12:36] <baktaah> Connection closed by foreign host.
[12:36] <baktaah> sorry
[12:36] <baktaah> pastebin
[12:36] <Fujitsu> OK, so vino is doing strange things.
[12:36] <Fujitsu> Never seen that before.
[12:36] <thoreauputic> baktaah: grrrr
[12:37] <stefg> baktaah: Port 5900 needs to be open and forwarded
[12:37] <baktaah> stefg in router or in linux?
[12:37] <stefg> everywhere
[12:37] <StoneNote> both
[12:37] <baktaah> since I dont got a router and even If I did I know how to open the port.
[12:37] <Fujitsu> stefg: Note the localhost bit.
[12:37] <_creepyz0r> rambo3, what was that you said before ?
[12:37] <Fujitsu> stefg: It's a problem with vino.
[12:37] <rambo3> _creepyz0r, type file-roller in terminal and you ll know
[12:38] <Tarsinion1> What is the best way to manage .trash folders ?
[12:38] <IMYojimbo> hi
[12:38] <h3x0r> ubuto sudo
[12:38] <stian> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398909
[12:38] <eyeonus> Okay, I found the man page for grub-install, anyone here able to help me determine what command to issue? I have my hard drive mounted to the Live OS on /media/master
[12:38] <h3x0r> ubunto, usr
[12:39] <Fujitsu> h3x0r: Please use a PM for this sort of thing.
[12:39] <_creepyz0r> rambo3, it doesnt work
[12:39] <rambo3> !ethtool | stian
[12:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethtool - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <rambo3> !info  ethtool
[12:40] <ubotu> ethtool: Display or change ethernet card settings. In component main, is important. Version 3-1 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 160 kB
[12:40] <hacosta> i want to customize an ubuntu install iso, is there any documentation for that?
[12:40] <_creepyz0r> does unrar-free support extracting multiple rar files ( r00 , r01 , r02 . ..... etc), file-roller isnt working , unrar isnt working ? anyone know of a solution
[12:40] <Fujitsu> baktaah: If you killall vino-server, then run /usr/lib/vino/vino-server in a terminal, then telnet into it again, does vino-server tell you anything useful?
[12:41] <baktaah> Fujitsu Remote Desktop server already running; exiting ...
[12:41] <baktaah> (i am not running it)
[12:41] <baktaah> so it must be on in the background
[12:41] <eyeonus> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda1
[12:41] <eyeonus> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[12:41] <eyeonus> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[12:41] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Oh, it'll be relaunching... Turn it off in System->Preferences.
[12:42] <stian> allright, so got ethtool
[12:42] <baktaah> Fujitsu  done it already :/
[12:42] <Fujitsu> Then try that again.
[12:42] <stian> how do i use it to try and fix my issue?
[12:42] <Fujitsu> baktaah: You might have to wait 30 seconds for the sockets to clear.
[12:42] <baktaah> thansen Fujitsu for being patently
[12:42] <baktaah> I've been trying since yesterday (all day)
[12:42] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: you want /dev/hda not hda1
[12:42] <Fujitsu> baktaah: No problem. I'm interested to see why this isn't working.
[12:42] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: hda1 is a partition, hda is the drive itself
[12:42] <safer> I'm new to linux so I'm sorry if this is a grossly newb question but....... I'm trying to load data off a cd onto the computer ---- when I put the cd in, nothing auto plays, nothing appears in /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1 ---- how do I solve this please
[12:42] <eyeonus> Ah, my mistake. Thanks
[12:42] <baktaah> so frustrated that it has to be so complicated.. WIndows is easier in many ways
[12:43] <Fujitsu> baktaah: It'
[12:43] <dj-fu> safer: mount it
[12:43] <dj-fu> safer: if it didn't do it manually, do pmount /dev/cdrom
[12:43] <eyeonus> Same error.
[12:43] <Fujitsu> *It's normally just clicking on the checkbox, but something seems broken in your case.
[12:43] <rambo3> stian man ethtool
[12:43] <baktaah> Fujitsu dont I have to activate something in Login screen?
[12:43] <rambo3> look for speed
[12:43] <Fujitsu> baktaah: No.
[12:43] <Plantain> Are there any Rage 128 drivers for Ubuntu?
[12:43] <_creepyz0r> !curse shout
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curse shout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <_creepyz0r> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[12:43] <_creepyz0r> does unrar-free support extracting multiple rar files ( r00 , r01 , r02 . ..... etc), file-roller isnt working , unrar isnt working ? anyone know of a solution
[12:43] <rambo3> stian look for speed and full duplex
[12:43] <baktaah> Fujitsu  XDMCP?
[12:43] <Fujitsu> !caps
[12:43] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[12:44] <jicecruncher> help, my terminal tells me "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:44] <jicecruncher> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?" what can i do?
[12:44] <Fujitsu> baktaah: That has nothing to do with VNC.
[12:44] <markvandenborre> is there a daily image of the normal ubuntu installer?
[12:44] <IdleOne> !patience | _creepyz0r
[12:44] <baktaah> Fujitsu okay
[12:44] <ubotu> _creepyz0r: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:44] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: I'm out of ideas, tbh, sorry
[12:44] <rambo3> _creepyz0r, from terminal unrar -e file.01
[12:44] <Fujitsu> jicecruncher: Close Synaptic or the update manager.
[12:44] <baktaah> Fujitsu ** (vino-server:6669): WARNING **: Remote Desktop server already running; exiting ...
[12:44] <stian> speed says 100mb/s, and duplex: full
[12:44] <Fujitsu> markvandenborre: Of Feisty? Try cdimage.ubuntu.com
[12:44] <jicecruncher> don't have one open
[12:44] <Chris|OUT> Help!
[12:44] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Does lsof | grep 5900 say anything useful now?
[12:44] <Fujitsu> !helpme
[12:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <rambo3> stian, can it be ipv6 problem
[12:45] <_creepyz0r> rambo3, mehhhhhhhh i already tryied everything :)
[12:45] <baktaah> vino-serv 6246    baktaah   17u     IPv4      15836                 TCP *:5900 (LISTEN)
[12:45] <markvandenborre> Fujitsu, thx...
[12:45] <baktaah> Fujitsu  remote desktop isnt on.. so how can it be on while it isnt?
[12:45] <baktaah> much be a glitch/crasch
[12:45] <stian> ipv6, perhaps....
[12:45] <delcoyote> hi all, was trying to install compiz, and i did , but xserver crashes at start, not sure if i feked up the gdm.conf file with vim, should i use dpkg --reconfigure ???? what else?
[12:45] <Fujitsu> baktaah: kill 6246, and see if it comes back.
[12:45] <stian> ive wasnt able to disable it
[12:45] <_creepyz0r> THIS IS BULL CURD
[12:45] <Fujitsu> delcoyote: -> #ubuntu-effects
[12:45] <rambo3> stian, ask ubotu in priv ipv6
[12:45] <baktaah> kill 6246,
[12:45] <Fujitsu> _creepyz0r: Please be pleasant.
[12:46] <delcoyote> thanks Fujitsu
[12:46] <baktaah> Fujitsu how.. just kill 6246=
[12:46] <StoneNote> !rar | _creepyz0r
[12:46] <ubotu> _creepyz0r: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:46] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Correct.
[12:46] <baktaah> Fujitsu nothing happends
[12:46] <safer> safer@safer-environment:~$ pmount /dev/cdrom
[12:46] <safer> Error: device /dev/cdrom does not exist
[12:46] <safer> safer@safer-environment:~$ pmount /dev/cdrom0
[12:46] <safer> Error: device /dev/cdrom0 does not exist
[12:46] <Fujitsu> baktaah: lsof | grep 5900 again
[12:46] <Fujitsu> !paste
[12:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:46] <XenSA> any one here can help with webilder desktop please?
[12:46] <Fujitsu> safer: ^^
[12:46] <baktaah> Fujitsu everytime I do /usr/lib/vino/vino-server it just gives me new ports
[12:46] <Fujitsu> OK.
[12:46] <ubuntu_noob> Hi all, I am planning to format my hard drives then repartitioning them. My questions is should I use gpart or part. magic to do task ?
[12:46] <baktaah> vino-serv 6778    baktaah   17u     IPv4      16686                 TCP *:5900 (LISTEN)
[12:46] <safer> I see the folders in /media
[12:46] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Head into Remote Desktop perferences again, turn it on, then off again.
[12:47] <Fujitsu> ubuntu_noob: gparted.
[12:47] <stian> rambo3, I've tried what uboto suggests
[12:47] <ubuntu_noob> fuji, thanks
[12:47] <stian> but it wont disable ipv6
[12:47] <baktaah> Okay done
[12:47] <baktaah> Fujitsu  ehm
[12:48] <baktaah> there is no on/off button
[12:48] <Fujitsu> baktaah: Is there still something on 5900?
[12:48] <stian> ip a | grep inet6 gives me outup, when it shouldnt
[12:48] <baktaah> Fujitsu  i did
[12:48] <baktaah> lsof | grep 5900
[12:48] <baktaah> and everytime I killed the new one
[12:48] <baktaah> a new port showed up
[12:48] <baktaah> after 4-5 times
[12:48] <baktaah> no one showed up
[12:48] <baktaah> meaning I killed them all
[12:48] <baktaah> (except a firefox port)
[12:48] <baktaah> now I open up the remote desktop
[12:48] <baktaah> and got a new port
[12:49] <IdleOne> !enter | baktaah
[12:49] <ubotu> baktaah: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:49] <baktaah> IdleOne roger sorry =)
[12:49] <baktaah> vino-serv 6892    baktaah   17u     IPv4      17169                 TCP *:5900 (LISTEN)
[12:49] <h3x0r> hey i have win installed, any ideas how i run it? i cant find it in my menu :(
[12:49] <LadyNikon> win?
[12:49] <h3x0r> wine*
[12:49] <LadyNikon> oh
[12:49] <Fujitsu> baktaah: If you turn it off again, and you get nothing further listening on 5900, run /usr/lib/vino/vino-server, and telnet in.
[12:49] <Fujitsu> h3x0r: You run it by opening a .exe.
[12:49] <LadyNikon> h3x0r: wine <program>
[12:50] <x`0ff> hey guys, I've got a problem with my screen
[12:50] <h3x0r> oh yea dats right thanks guys
[12:50] <M3G4crux> hi to all
[12:50] <x`0ff> when I scroll down/up, it's being cut like in frames
[12:50] <LadyNikon> ahem "guys"
[12:50] <M3G4crux> I am having a problem with gnome panel
[12:50] <LadyNikon> :p
[12:50] <x`0ff> it does not scrolll smoothly
[12:50] <dj-fu> x`0ff: install the drivers
[12:50] <dj-fu> for your video card
[12:50] <M3G4crux> I have tried to solve it removing gnome dirs under home directory unsuccessfully
[12:51] <LadyNikon> M3G4crux: define "problem"
[12:51] <M3G4crux> when gnome-panel runs it crashes continously
[12:51] <M3G4crux> it pops a message saying something regarding gtkmanager.c
[12:52] <M3G4crux> I close the message and it keeps on relaunching the gnome-panel and crashing. I have killed it from the terminal and launch it by had. I have removed gnome-panel and gnome-applets and gnome-session several times and installed again unsuccessfully
[12:53] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: does the same thing happen if you make a new userand log in as the new user?
[12:53] <M3G4crux> with root it does not happen
[12:54] <M3G4crux> but I havent check with another user
[12:54] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: if so, I would move all the .gconf and .gnome* stuff and try again with a clean slate
[12:54] <jicecruncher> does anyone know how to use xtraceroute?
[12:54] <thoreauputic> oh and .gtk*
[12:54] <M3G4crux> thoreauputic, thats a pity. I can try it but i will not know the reason of the problem :(
[12:54] <thoreauputic> jicecruncher: i tried it but I prefer tcptracerote and mtr in a terminal
[12:55] <jicecruncher> k
[12:55] <Priest-of-Work> is there a decent download manager for gnome that allows mutlipul connections?
[12:55] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: yes you will - you move things back until it breaks again
[12:55] <M3G4crux> was there a way to add a user directly with x windows execution, etc.
[12:55] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: that narrows it down to the bit you moved back :)
[12:55] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux:  sudo adduer foo
[12:56] <M3G4crux> ok
[12:56] <x`0ff> dj-fu: well, there's no faq about my graphic card, it's a SiS card and I've got no idea of how to install the drivers ;/
[12:56] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: if you want the new user to be in various groups ( like audio etc) use adduser foo <name-of-group>
[12:56] <M3G4crux> ok, how do I list me current groups
[12:57] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: after creating the user of course :)
[12:57] <M3G4crux> done
[12:57] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: type id  or groups
[12:57] <thoreauputic> as your user
[12:58] <Digital|O> can someone help
[12:58] <Digital|O> the dns for my network settings wont stay put!
[12:58] <Digital|O> they keep changing
[12:58] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: no, all 1008 of us refuse to help :)
[12:58] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: you are using dhcp right?
[12:58] <Durtro> hi
[12:59] <Digital|O> yes
[12:59] <Pntkl> sup?
[12:59] <M3G4crux> thoreauputic, name of group one at a time?
[12:59] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: dhcp is overwriting /etc/resolv.conf most likely
[12:59] <Smotang> Digital|O: DHCP automatically assigns your DNS, that is probably why they keep changing
[12:59] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: sudo adduser foo audio  for example
[12:59] <Digital|O> how do i change that :(
[01:00] <Pntkl> good
[01:00] <M3G4crux> I tried 9 groups at the same time but it didnt work, need to add one by one
[01:00] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: you can edit the dhcp3 enter hooks I think
[01:00] <binfalse> Hi
[01:00] <GaiaX11> So. What does Feisty mean? feisty
[01:00] <GaiaX11>      adj 1: showing courage; "the champion is faced with a feisty
[01:00] <GaiaX11>             challenger" [syn: {plucky}, {spunky}] 
[01:00] <GaiaX11>      2: irritable and looking for trouble; "too touchy to make
[01:00] <GaiaX11>         judicious decisions" [syn: {touchy}] 
[01:00] <GaiaX11>      [also: {feistiest}, {feistier}] . Is this the right meaning?
[01:00] <binfalse> that's a secret
[01:00] <thoreauputic> M3G4crux: yes, with adduser
[01:00] <thoreauputic> GaiaX11: grr
[01:00] <M3G4crux> well see you in a couple of seconds ok?
[01:00] <thoreauputic> GaiaX11: don't paste
[01:01] <GaiaX11> thoreauputic: Sorry. I did not mean that. I know the rules
[01:01] <thoreauputic> GaiaX11: OK :)
[01:01] <GaiaX11> thoreauputic: But my question still has a point
[01:02] <thoreauputic> GaiaX11: sure
[01:02] <thoreauputic> GaiaX11: currently feisty fits the definition pretty well :)
[01:03] <GaiaX11> thoreauputic: do you mean the definition above?
[01:03] <thoreauputic> GaiaX11: yes
[01:03] <Digital|O> thoreauputic, i loged into my modem and maully set it in the dhcp to the one in the dns section... which was working when i changed it in the network admin on the linux machine
[01:03] <GaiaX11> thoreauputic: courage?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> GaiaX11: well, feisty includes some pretty cutting edge stuff
[01:04] <mzuverink> I used the live gparted disk to resize hda1, so that I could put /home on a seperate partition.  From the cli what do I need to do, the fstab had strange UUID's Ive never seem before and i dont know what  the UUID is for on the new partiton?
[01:04] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: yes, I know the problem - I found a way - hang on a minute while I grep through stuff on my other install
[01:04] <Digital|O> ok
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: /join #flood
[01:06] <thoreauputic> Digital|O: I have the file
[01:06] <SubMOA> hello!
[01:06] <joebonni_> is there a user group for the ubuntu christian version
[01:07] <baktaah> I got two Ubuntus when I get into GRUB at start, one of them is .10 and the other .11, is it possible to remove the old one?
[01:07] <SubMOA> joebonni_, the christian version?  Can you send me a link, please?
[01:07] <Emanuele> buongiorno
[01:07] <joebonni_> sure
[01:07] <SubMOA> thank you
[01:07] <baktaah> Why do you want a christian version of ubuntu?
[01:07] <joebonni_> wait
[01:07] <JiBEsH> Hi, I just installed windows and he overwrite my MBR, how can I reinstall grub with all mount points and a live cd ?
[01:07] <joebonni_> i am a pastor
[01:07] <baktaah> Is there a muslim or jewish version of ubuntu?
[01:07] <joebonni_> there is muslim
[01:07] <eyeonus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows <-- I'm going to see if this does what I'm looking for, I'll be back.
[01:07] <Emanuele> stavo cercando di installare yahoo messenger per linux, nel mentre mi vengono richieste delle dipendenze
[01:07] <rambo3> baktaah, muslim yes
[01:08] <dv_> really?
[01:08] <baktaah> why?!
[01:08] <SubMOA> joebonni_, you don't say... that is very interesting
[01:08] <dv_> omg
[01:08] <_creepyz0r> ROFLLOLOcopter
[01:08] <joebonni_> yes very insteresting
[01:08] <baktaah> why in hell does someone want a religios version of a OS.
[01:08] <Emanuele> una in particolare sui repository di ubuntu non  adatta al caso mio
[01:08] <SubMOA> ut-oh...
[01:08] <baktaah> logic != religion
[01:08] <joebonni_> well its suited to our needs
[01:08] <Emanuele> sichiama
[01:08] <rambo3> baktaah, becouse they can
[01:08] <baktaah> Emanuele  please leave
[01:08] <dv_> to be honest I dont like the sound of this.
[01:08] <JiBEsH> eyeonus ty :D
[01:08] <dv_> an OS should not be religious
[01:08] <joebonni_> it has bibles and stuff there for christians
[01:08] <h3x0r> ubuntu rules :)
[01:09] <rambo3> no off-topic here
[01:09] <StoneNote> !es | Emanuele
[01:09] <ubotu> Emanuele: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:09] <Emanuele> xlibs (>> 3.3.6)
[01:09] <baktaah> I got two Ubuntus when I get into GRUB at start, one of them is .10 and the other .11, is it possible to remove the old one?
[01:09] <_creepyz0r> God rules !
[01:09] <IdleOne> !it | Emanuele
[01:09] <ubotu> Emanuele: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:09] <joebonni_> its not religious
[01:09] <IdleOne> !offtopic | all
[01:09] <ubotu> all: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:09] <Emanuele> cappero
[01:09] <Emanuele> :D
[01:09] <_creepyz0r> God loves ubuntu
[01:09] <SubMOA> dv_, why not, though?  It can be anything you want it to be, why not anything anybody else wants it to be?  It can be a "hacking" platform, a video editing platform, etc.?  Just a thought... not trying to start a flame war or anything...
[01:09] <IdleOne> _creepyz0r, get off the god topic please
[01:09] <Emanuele> pensavo fosse italiano
[01:09] <SubMOA> opps, sorry idleone
[01:10] <baktaah> SubMOA  I would love a hacking platform
[01:10] <bimberi> !it
[01:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:10] <_creepyz0r> IdleOne, are you muslim ?
[01:10] <dv_> SubMOA, well its ok by me if there are versions for several religions
[01:10] <dv_> not just muslim or christian
[01:10] <rambo3> _creepyz0r, continue and you ll be baned
[01:10] <IdleOne> _creepyz0r, this is a support channel not a religious debate channel stay on topic please
[01:10] <baktaah> I got two Ubuntus when I get into GRUB at start, one of them is .10 and the other .11, is it possible to remove the old one?
[01:10] <StoneNote> _creepyz0r, they're ops
[01:11] <_creepyz0r> and ? im here seeking help are they gonna help crush thier community
[01:11] <_creepyz0r> they shouldnt ban me
[01:11] <_creepyz0r> kthx
[01:11] <preaction> baktaah: they're two different kernels. you don't really need to, but otherwise you can remove the .10 kernel package if you want (i think)
[01:11] <IdleOne> _creepyz0r, you need help with anything ubuntu related?
[01:11] <_creepyz0r> yes
[01:11] <IdleOne> then ask
[01:11] <_creepyz0r> does unrar-free support extracting multiple rar files ( r00 , r01 , r02 . ..... etc), file-roller isnt working , unrar isnt working ?
[01:11] <dv_> baktaah, the old one is kept in case the new one doesnt work
[01:11] <baktaah> preaction U think I can remove the .10 kernel package?
[01:11] <baktaah> dv_ okay but what if I want to remove it
[01:11] <dv_> so if it works correctly you can remove the .10 one
[01:11] <joebonni_> submoa /////// its www.christianubantu.com
[01:11] <IdleOne> _creepyz0r, I dont think so
[01:12] <_creepyz0r> meh just comment it out in the grub conf
[01:12] <_creepyz0r> IdleOne, so i have to go do it on a windows machine ?
[01:12] <SubMOA> joebonni_, thanks you
[01:12] <preaction> baktaah: yes, you can. if you're sure the .11 kernel works fine. but kernel images are only a few megabytes, you don't really need to remove them
[01:12] <rambo3> _creepyz0r, install unrar
[01:12] <_creepyz0r> rambo3, i did
[01:12] <IdleOne> _creepyz0r, no there must be a way in linux
[01:12] <rambo3> you installed unrar-free
[01:12] <joebonni_> submoa i have the edgy version its newer nicer desktop
[01:12] <_creepyz0r> Extracting  prevail.xvid.wildhogs.avi                                 Failed
[01:12] <dv_> preaction, the grub menu can get messy after several updates though :)
[01:12] <baktaah> preaction I still would like it to be gone because the new kernel is here soon
[01:13] <SubMOA> joebonni_, I do, also... I am running beryl... flashy and a waste of electricity, but fun :O)
[01:13] <linkri> anyone know why smbfs is much slower than the smbclient ? and if there is something that can be done to fix it ?
[01:13] <NekoKun> Is it possible to... "run the X-Server in background"?
[01:13] <joebonni_> submoa wow that cool
[01:13] <arkaitz> Hey is there any program like vmware but for ubuntu so I can simulate Win XP there?
[01:13] <dv_> SubMOA, actually gl-accelerated desktops could reduce power consumption, if correctly used
[01:13] <preaction> arkaitz: there are vmware for linux
[01:13] <SlimeyPete> dv_: Yes. VMWare. Also Qemu, VirtualBox.
[01:13] <StoneNote> arkaitz, I run vmware under ubuntu
[01:13] <arkaitz> preaction:  thx
[01:14] <bimberi> !vmware | arkaitz
[01:14] <ubotu> arkaitz: VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[01:14] <forham> sudo apt-get install vmware
[01:14] <linkri> !virtualizers
[01:14] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[01:14] <SubMOA> dv_ is that so... do you mind a personal IM thing and telling me about it?
[01:14] <joebonni_> submoa it is not your standard gnome look has more of the windows kinda look but if you have a slow processor it will look like the gnome you know now
[01:14] <SubMOA> ohhhh
[01:14] <_creepyz0r> FSCKING unrar-free
[01:15] <rambo3> _creepyz0r, i just tested and it works , unrar e file.01
[01:15] <_creepyz0r> yeah
[01:15] <_creepyz0r> unrar-free sucks
[01:16] <joebonni_> christian software usually is very bad not made well at all but ubuntu changed that
[01:16] <SubMOA> joebonni_, well that is good
[01:16] <joebonni_> yeah finally
[01:16] <joebonni_> now we need a good accounting system
[01:17] <joebonni_> ok i am gone see you later
[01:17] <SubMOA> joebonni_, I thtink the link you gave me was a joke link
[01:17] <h3x0r> hey i have the file FarCry.exe on my desktop and when i type wine FarCry.exe i get wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\FARCRY_1.exe":  help?
[01:17] <IdleOne> h3x0r, #winehq
[01:17] <rambo3> http://www.whatwouldjesusdownload.com/
[01:18] <h3x0r> hey whats #winehq?
[01:18] <IdleOne> Wine support channel
[01:18] <rambo3> for wine questions , wine is still beta and buggy
[01:18] <thunkt> it's a channel for Wine
[01:19] <CheshireViking> SubMOA, what link did he give you, I saw the comments about christian software so wondered if it was a link for the Ubuntu Christian edition you were looking for?
[01:19] <AzMoo_> Is there a package for the Firefox DOM Inspector?
[01:20] <Sp4rKy> [WaZ] : around ?
[01:20] <Fujitsu> AzMoo: firefox-dom-inspector
[01:20] <mtha> hi
[01:20] <AzMoo> Fujitsu, cheers.
[01:20] <SubMOA> CheshireViking, I went to a spoof blog about it... it said "For the 40 days of lent, will work in text mode only" and other jokes and stuff
[01:20] <h3x0r> hey im very noobish so i dont understand but what do you mean by #winehq, as in channel support?
[01:20] <[WaZ] > Sp4rKy: yeah, but busy, didn't work?
[01:20] <rambo3> AzMoo, firebug is extention for dom
[01:20] <mtha> can anyone tell me how to find the temperature of a motherboard which has no sensors at all?
[01:21] <AzMoo> Ah, can't install because my packages are still broken.
[01:21] <CheshireViking> SubMOA, rite, that comes up first on google searchs i think when you look for for the official site
[01:21] <rambo3> AzMoo, its firefox addon
[01:21] <IdleOne> h3x0r, #ubuntu ( where you are now ) is for ubuntu support if you need help with Wine type /join #winehq and ask for help
[01:21] <mtha> anyone please?
[01:21] <SubMOA> CheshireViking, yes... and then on that page I found the link to the real site
[01:21] <AzMoo> rambo3, is it the same thing?
[01:21] <Fujitsu> mtha: A thermometer?
[01:21] <[WaZ] > mtha: how can you measure temperature without a sensor?
[01:21] <safer> OK  back to my problem ------ when you install ubuntu/kubuntu you need to mount the cd/dvd rom drives  before they'll read disks?  Even though they seem to  be already mounted in /media?
[01:21] <CheshireViking> SubMOA, rite ok,
[01:21] <rambo3> AzMoo, http://www.getfirebug.com/
[01:22] <mtha> fujitsu, my fan remains switched on all the time, btw im on a laptop
[01:22] <mtha> fujitsu, Lenovo 3000 C100, 0761 D7A
[01:22] <mzuverink> from cli how do I mount a new partiton that I resized of to make room for a new partition for /home, then move /home to the new part, I cant get in a gui, says no space left...
[01:22] <mtha> Fujitsu, Lenovo 3000 C100, 0761 D7A
[01:23] <mtha> Fujitsu, my fan remains switched on all the time, btw im on a laptop
[01:23] <Sp4rKy> [WaZ] : so, i activated dbe, know i can have a clone of my screen on the video. When i display my slideshow with OOo, no issue. Anyway, when i try to see a video with both mplayer or vlc, the video works fine on my screen but on the video projector i only get a black square in place of the picture
[01:23] <lcandell> i have one of those
[01:23] <mtholdenss> when does 7.04 get released?
[01:23] <safer> How do I mount a cd drive?
[01:23] <[WaZ] > mtha: make sure the fans are not obstruated
[01:23] <CheshireViking> mtholdenss, 19th april i think
[01:23] <mtholdenss> ok thanks
[01:24] <lcandell> a lenovo c3000 n100
[01:24] <mtha> WaZ, they are not, i am using dapper btw
[01:24] <[WaZ] > Sp4rKy: > fr
[01:24] <AzMoo> rambo3, awesome, thanks.
[01:24] <lcandell> you get your sound working?
[01:24] <Sp4rKy> [WaZ] : ??
[01:24] <mtholdenss> atleast its not delayed till june like last yr..
[01:24] <lupusbeta> safer, normally it is auto-mounted due to autostart of the cd
[01:25] <maina> i need a quick help, i want to install a browser
[01:25] <[dive] >   .
[01:25] <safer> well it looks to be auto mounted
[01:25] <safer> but when I put a cd in the drive nothing happens
[01:25] <maina> i have firefox ver 2. downloaded
[01:25] <lupusbeta> safer, so there is no CD icon on desktop?
[01:25] <safer> and when I got to /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1 no data is there
[01:25] <safer> no
[01:26] <mtholdenss> maina why download firefox when its already installed and all you have to do is update whenever there is a update
[01:26] <maina> i tried to upgrade from the previous firefox 1.5 but now its not even opening
[01:26] <arkaitz> bimberi: one question about vmware, when I try to download the package sudo apt-get install vmware-player it says it doesnt exist. And I got the multiverse repository activated
[01:27] <mtholdenss> maina what distro of ubuntu do you have?
[01:27] <lupusbeta> safer, check /etc/fstab for your cdrom drive <cat /etc/fstab>
[01:27] <bimberi> arkaitz: what architecture are you on (i386?, amd64?, ppc?)
[01:27] <arkaitz> bimberi: i386
[01:28] <bimberi> arkaitz: Ubuntu version?
[01:28] <vvv> what do i need to run active wallpaper? like wallpaper that moves might be called x wallpaper
[01:28] <safer> /dev/scd1       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:28] <safer> /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:29] <arkaitz> bimberi: 6.10
[01:29] <bimberi> !info vmware-player edgy
[01:29] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[01:29] <safer> does that mean they're mounted ?
[01:29] <palco> Guys, is NetworkManager installed in Ubuntu 7.04 by default?
[01:29] <maina> hi
[01:29] <safer> I obviously have 2 cd rom drives
[01:29] <bimberi> arkaitz: 'apt-get update' done?
[01:30] <NekoKun> Can I install X-Server through ssh?
[01:30] <palco> Does one need to install NetworkManager from repos or it comes on Live-CD ? PLS
[01:30] <vvv> vmware-player for running active wallpaper?
[01:31] <lupusbeta> safer, then try <mount /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0> but before you do that you could hit mount return to see what is currently mounted
[01:31] <lucciolina> escuse.me, do you know  linux's correspondents of cabri gomtre and pascal (which are for windows)?
[01:31] <bimberi> palco: it's on the Feisty LiveCD, which is in beta.  Prior versions require install from repos
[01:32] <palco> bimberi, thank you very much!
[01:32] <safer> what do you mean "hit mount  return"?
[01:32] <bimberi> palco: yw :)
[01:32] <bimberi> safer: type 'mount' as a command by itself
[01:32] <maina> hi
[01:32] <bimberi> !hi | maina
[01:33] <ubotu> maina: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:33] <palco> bimberi, what about windows partitions mounting? Is there a GUI tool to do it easily?
[01:33] <lupusbeta> safer, just mount then it tells you which devices are mounted
[01:33] <safer> ok
[01:33] <theozard> where can i dwonload ubunu from?
[01:33] <xircx> where can i find plugins for rhythmbox
[01:33] <theozard> ubuntu*
[01:33] <YogSothoth> HI!
[01:33] <theozard> hey
[01:34] <safer> ok I don't see anything regarding scd0 or scd1
[01:34] <bimberi> palco: not since disk-manager (or whatever it was called) was removed after Dapper.
[01:34] <bimberi> !download
[01:34] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[01:34] <TeReL5O> if u cant find a link tio download ubuntu, u better stick to windhoze.
[01:35] <lupusbeta> safer, then try the line as i said before mount </dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0>
[01:35] <palco> pitty
[01:35] <lupusbeta> safer, then try the line as i said before <mount /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0>
[01:35] <StoneNote> TeReL5O, everyone started out as a beginner. even you and me
[01:35] <theozard> thnx a ton
[01:35] <duncan1> Quick one: How do I get Ubuntu (Dapper) to remember my DNS choices in Network Settings? (Keeps resetting to my original ones at boot). :)
[01:35] <theozard> 1 think suzi is better or ubuntu
[01:35] <theozard> ??
[01:35] <TeReL5O> StoneNote:  come on, there are questions, and there are stupid questions
[01:35] <theozard> ??
[01:35] <theozard> suzi's better
[01:35] <theozard> or ubuntu
[01:35] <theozard> ?
[01:36] <thunkt> TeReL5O: There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots :P
[01:36] <StoneNote> TeReL5O, there are no stupid questions. only foolish superior attitudes
[01:36] <StoneNote> !offtopic } StoneNote
[01:36] <StoneNote> !offtopic |StoneNote
[01:37] <thunkt> anyone around here use an igp345M notebook video card?
[01:37] <bimberi> duncan1: 'sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf' will make the file immutable so not even root can change it (until a chattr -i is done on it)
[01:38] <safer> safer@safer-environment:~$ mount /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0
[01:38] <safer> mount: only root can do that
[01:38] <duncan1> bimberi: THANKS! :)
[01:38] <bimberi> duncan1: make sure resolv.conf has what you want in it first
[01:38] <mtholdenss> IDE channel seeing nothing , can't boot into ubuntu, saying disk bot failure, insert system disk and press enter, any help?
[01:38] <bimberi> duncan1: np :)
[01:38] <safer> root@safer-environment:~# mount /dev/scd1 /media/cdrom0
[01:38] <safer> mount: special device /dev/scd1 does not exist
[01:39] <palco> Is there a GUI to mount/unmount partitions in Edgy, Feisty ?!
[01:40] <dj-fu> palco: gnome-terminal
[01:41] <svg> palco: yes, storage manager
[01:41] <safer> how could it not exist?
[01:41] <lupusbeta> safer, maybe your cdrom is something like /dev/hdc?
[01:41] <safer> how would I find out?
[01:41] <lupusbeta> safer, could it be a link or are you sure the the cd is in the right cd drive?
[01:41] <palco> svg, is it a default application? or one needs to install it?
[01:42] <safer> I got to setting>disk&filesystems and see nothing like....hdc
[01:42] <lupusbeta> safer, but scd1?
[01:42] <svg> palco: can't remember i installed it manually, it's under system, administration
[01:43] <safer> yeah I see scd1
[01:43] <safer> the hard drive is  sda
[01:43] <safer> and cdrom is scd
[01:44] <lupusbeta> safer, hm did it ever worked your cd-drive?
[01:44] <safer> well I just installed the OS
[01:45] <safer> so I've never used it on the os before
[01:45] <safer> only to install the os
[01:45] <lupusbeta> safer, ok i am at the end of my knowledge good luck
[01:46] <safer> well thanks alot
[01:46] <safer> good day
[01:46] <arkaitz> How can I install a package and all its dependences from terminal? I write down "sudo apt-get install vmware-player" but it needs some other packages to work
[01:46] <safer> Anyone else knows the basis of my current doom?
[01:47] <crdlb> arkaitz, that should pull everything needed
[01:47] <crdlb> arkaitz, what exactly was missing?
[01:48] <arkaitz> crdlb:
[01:48] <arkaitz> ## Multiverse Repository
[01:48] <arkaitz> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[01:49] <arkaitz> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse
[01:49] <arkaitz> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[01:49] <arkaitz> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe multiverse
[01:49] <arkaitz> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[01:49] <arkaitz> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates universe multiverse
[01:49] <arkaitz> sorry
[01:49] <arkaitz> :'(
[01:49] <mtholdenss> IDE channel seeing nothing , can't boot into ubuntu, saying disk bot failure, insert system disk and press enter, any help?
[01:49] <arkaitz>  crdlb: vmware-player: Depends on: vmware-player-kernel-modules but wont be installed
[01:49] <lupusbeta> !pastebin > arkaitz
[01:49] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: check ur jumpers
[01:50] <librecour> connect irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[01:50] <arkaitz> lupusbeta:  it has been a confussion, I didnt copied correctly what I wanted to paste. I already said I was sorry
[01:50] <librecour> erf sorry
[01:50] <lupusbeta> safer, maybe try to mount /dev/scd not /dev/scd1
[01:50] <mtholdenss> zulfajuniadi_  can the jumpers become loose?
[01:51] <lupusbeta> arkaitz, allright
[01:51] <linkri> /whois safer
[01:51] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: i wouldn't think so. did it happen just recently? can bios detect ur hdd?
[01:51] <linkri> mt
[01:51] <crdlb> arkaitz, pastebin your entire sources.list
[01:52] <_max> anyone know why for example when firefox pops something up (like a yes/no certificate dialog) it appears BEHIND firefox so that i dont notice?
[01:52] <_max> iv got beryl installed, wondering if this is affecting stuff =/
[01:52] <mtholdenss> zulfajuniadi_  only lately been playing up, going in and out of this process, and now nothing, bios can't seem to pick up my hard drive or cd drive..
[01:53] <baktaah> Is there an easy way to change The Loading Screen, the login screen and the splash screen?
[01:53] <bimberi> svg: found the Storage Manager package (unfortunately palco has gone though). It's...
[01:53] <bimberi> !pysdm
[01:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pysdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:53] <bimberi> !info pysdm
[01:53] <ubotu> pysdm: Graphical Storage Device Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 26 kB, installed size 280 kB
[01:54] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: it seems that your motherboard maybe the cause. have you tried replacing the ide cables?
[01:54] <StoneNote> safer you have a scsi cdrom?  when I bring up hal-device-manger I see my dvdrom as /dev/hdc and my dvd writer as /dev/hdd
[01:54] <StoneNote> sata?
[01:55] <mtholdenss> zulfajuniadi_  never tried replacing the cables, replaced the hard drive to a smaller one a while back probably 2 months ago and everything was good
[01:55] <eyalw> hey, is there any good lookin Widgets app?
[01:55] <lupusbeta> StoneNote, safer the hard drive is  sda
[01:55] <lupusbeta> safer and cdrom is scd
[01:55] <baktaah> Is there an easy way to change The Loading Screen, the login screen and the splash screen with a program with GUI or does it all have to be done by hand?
[01:55] <StoneNote> lupusbeta, not for me. that's why I asked him
[01:55] <mtholdenss> i have a strong feeling its a motherboard failure and may have to go out purchase a new one
[01:56] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: it's kinda hard to imagine that all ur hdisks and cdroms died all at the same time.
[01:56] <lupusbeta> StoneNote, that's what he told me so i guess it's a sata cdrom and harddisk
[01:57] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: yes, i believe that's the problem. but to be more sure, try checking ur power supply and ide cables first
[01:57] <eyalw> hey, is there any good lookin Widgets app?
[01:57] <arkaitz> crdlb: http://rafb.net/p/HE33EJ34.html
[01:57] <eyalw> is there a Dashboard like app?
[01:57] <mtholdenss> zulfajuniadi_ like when it comes up with disk boot failure, insert system disk and press enter, i press enter and its trying to find something from a floppy
[01:58] <predaeus> baktaah, there is a GUI login screen see System/Administration/Login Window
[01:58] <StoneNote> lupusbeta, once again, that's why I asked him.
[01:58] <mtholdenss> oh score its working! all of the sudden its back to normal
[01:58] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: yes, that is what all motherboards do. Once it cannot find hardisks, it will try to boot from floppy, but this usually can be disabled in bios
[01:58] <baktaah> predaeus thank you, where can one download differend logins?
[01:58] <mor> hello everyone
[01:58] <StoneNote> !hi
[01:58] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:59] <mor> hello StoneNote
[01:59] <predaeus> baktaah, art.gnome.org and gnome-look.org   GDM themes are the login screen themes
[01:59] <lupusbeta> shame on me
[01:59] <mtholdenss> back to normal and booting up ubuntu but making some clicking noise every now and then from the case..
[01:59] <baktaah> predaeus ther are none login themes at gnome-look (i've looked)
[01:59] <baktaah> Or wait
[01:59] <baktaah> GDM
[01:59] <baktaah> thanks man
[02:00] <mor> I am running edgy, AMD64.. I installed a new mboard which has onboard graphics GeForce6150..
[02:01] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: aaaa.... that's ur problem. better check your harddisk. Try checking your power supply too, over voltage over long periods causes the hddisks to click
[02:01] <mor> now the problem is when I install drivers which I downloaded from nvidia site, it builds a kernel module to suit the OS as it cant find any downloadable one on nvidia FTP
[02:01] <mor> everything works and goes smoothly until I reboot the system..
[02:01] <crdlb> arkaitz, use this sources.list: http://rafb.net/p/BLMmvI66.html
[02:02] <baktaah> predaeus the splash, is it the one after GRUB or the one after Login in
[02:02] <mor> it just fails to get the X started, it gives me a message that API mismatched, kernel module is of version 1.0-74 where as graphics driver version is 1.0-9755
[02:02] <predaeus> baktaah, splash is the one after gdm
[02:02] <mor> so everytime I have to use X, I have to reinstall drivers for the card..
[02:02] <mor> anyone has a solution for the please ?
[02:02] <predaeus> baktaah, on these themes pages at least
[02:02] <zulfajuniadi_> mor, why would you want to install drivers from the original nvidia website? there is already drivers where you can download from the repositories
[02:03] <baktaah> predaeus  roger.
[02:03] <mtholdenss> zulfajuniadi_ what you mean check my hard disk, the hard disk i replaced it with was one from a mac, a 40 gig one, i had a 80 gig one in there but my mac needed more space.. how could i get over voltage..
[02:03] <zulfajuniadi_> mor, try googling easybuntu
[02:03] <mor> ok zulfajuniadi_, trying that :)
[02:03] <StoneNote> !easyubuntu
[02:03] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:03] <mor> easyubuntu should contain the repos ?
[02:04] <zulfajuniadi_> mor, easybuntu helps you install the drivers.
[02:04] <predaeus> baktaah, I just realized they seem to be intermixed with grub splash screens
[02:04] <mor> ooh.. ok, cool :))
[02:04] <baktaah> predaeus intermixed means :) ?
[02:04] <predaeus> baktaah, it seems there are both under splash screens
[02:04] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: if your power supply is faulty, it can cause over voltage, thus can damage your harddisks
[02:04] <predaeus> grub ones and gnome ones
[02:04] <crdlb> mor, you can follow this guide to install them manually: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[02:05] <baktaah> predaeus does both work with  splashcreen manager?
[02:05] <mor> thanks ubotu and crdlb =)
[02:05] <mtholdenss> zulfajuniadi_  so how would i know if my power supply is faulty?
[02:05] <predaeus> baktaah, what splash screen manager do you mean? I don't know of any
[02:06] <xtknight> !usplash
[02:06] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[02:06] <zulfajuniadi_> mtholdenss: it's kinda hard to tell really. I burned 3 80gb maxtor hard disks until i realised that it was my power supply. bad luck maybe
[02:06] <baktaah> predaeus how do u install splashscreens without gnome-splashscreen-manager
[02:06] <lHck> anyway to share the active desktop via VNC ?
[02:06] <eyalw> hey, is there any good lookin Widgets app?
[02:06] <predaeus> baktaah, I do not :-) I disabled them *g*
[02:06] <xtknight> lHck: use vino
[02:07] <xtknight> system->prefs->remote desktop
[02:07] <predaeus> baktaah, look at ubotu's message aove about usplash
[02:07] <xtknight> eyalw: gdesklets
[02:07] <lHck> xtknight, thanks, so VNC has no way to do it ?
[02:07] <zulfajuniadi_> eyalw: tried gdesklets?
[02:07] <predaeus> baktaah, that is the grub splash screens
[02:07] <xtknight> usplash isnt gnome splash
[02:07] <xtknight> it's bootup time
[02:07] <xtknight> lHck: you need to use Xvnc
[02:07] <baktaah> thanks predaeus
[02:07] <bimberi> !sphash
[02:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sphash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:07] <baktaah> xtknight ehm huh?
[02:07] <bimberi> !splash
[02:07] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[02:08] <bimberi> got there eventually
[02:08] <ubuntu_noob> Hi, How do I uninstall ubuntu ?
[02:08] <xtknight> baktaah: see above
[02:08] <baktaah> xtknight How do I know what splash I download is for what... the grub or after the GDM
[02:08] <ubuntu_noob> or formatting the hard drives that contains ubuntu
[02:08] <xtknight> ubuntu_noob: wipe the mbr
[02:08] <xtknight> and delete root partition
[02:08] <baktaah> I dont want to change the splash after GRUB, just the one after loging in.
[02:09] <xtknight> baktaah: oh the small window
[02:09] <xtknight> ?
[02:09] <ubuntu_noob> xtknight, How would I do so ?
[02:09] <xircx> where can i get ESound
[02:09] <predaeus> baktaah, then look at ubotu's message above that bimberi showed you
[02:09] <xtknight> ubuntu_noob: usually by installing windows back over it.
[02:09] <IdleOne> ubuntu_noob, you popiin your windows cd and have it format the drive and reinstall windows. make sure you back up any important files before doing so
[02:09] <xircx> sudu atp-get install ESound
[02:09] <xircx> :S
[02:09] <xtknight> xircx: sudo apt-get install esound ?
[02:09] <predaeus> baktaah, oh well nm you already knew that
[02:09] <xtknight> !find esound
[02:09] <ubotu> Found: esound, esound-clients, esound-common, zinf-plugin-esound
[02:10] <pisi> Hi. How can I disable to annoying (and not working) ubuntu network 'helper' ?
[02:10] <xtknight> network manager, pisi?
[02:10] <pisi> I had/have a perfectly working network setup that does not work with feisty any more.
[02:10] <xtknight> isnt that only in Feisty by default?  i'd ask #ubuntu+1
[02:10] <lHck> xtknight,  which way is better XNVC or VINO ?
[02:10] <baktaah> xtknight yeah
[02:10] <pisi> ups, ok.
[02:10] <xtknight> lHck: they are basically the same thing.  vino is gnome's RDP
[02:11] <xircx> !esound-clients
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esound-clients - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <ubuntu_noob> xtknight, thx
[02:11] <xtknight> !find esound-clients | xircx
[02:11] <ubotu> xircx: Found: esound-clients
[02:11] <xtknight> !info esound-clients | xircx
[02:11] <ubotu> xircx: esound-clients: Enlightened Sound Daemon - clients. In component main, is optional. Version 0.2.36-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 34 kB, installed size 164 kB
[02:11] <crdlb> lHck, vino works very well for remote access to a gnome desktop
[02:11] <lHck> crdlb, xtknight , what about xfce desktop ?
[02:12] <xtknight> lHck: i dont know, check the gnome prefs list
[02:12] <xtknight> er not gnome, xfce prefs***
[02:12] <crdlb> lHck, vino is integrated directly into gnome, so I don't know that it would be a good choice for xfce
[02:12] <xtknight> lHck: prolly Xvnc for xfce..
[02:13] <xtknight> Xvnc is a generic X sharing via VNC prog.
[02:13] <lHck> xtknight, crdlb , looks like my xfce4 is managed by GDM, not sure is it gnome or what ?
[02:13] <xtknight> lHck: no it is Xfce.
[02:13] <xtknight> gdm is gnome display manager, can be used to boot any session
[02:15] <mor> brb.. trying the new drivers provided by easyubuntu
[02:15] <lHck> apt-get didnt find any package named xvnc
[02:16] <xircx> eny one use gyach yahoo client?
[02:16] <suryan> hi
[02:16] <lHck> crdlb, apt-get didnt find any pakcage named xvnc
[02:16] <lHck> crdlb, what's the package name please ?
[02:17] <zulfajuniadi_> lHck: have you enabled all repositories?
[02:17] <Bonez56> hi, i just installed ubuntu on my desktop PC, which has 1x sata HDD and 1x IDE hdd... I partitioned the SATA drive and installed Ubuntu onto it, now when I reboot it says "Missing operating system" does anyone know how I can fix this?
[02:17] <suryan> how to fix broken packages in ubuntu
[02:18] <lupusbeta> Bonez56, install ubuntu on the ide hdd
[02:18] <zulfajuniadi_> Bonez56: try setting your bios to boot from sata
[02:18] <lHck> zulfajuniadi_, not sure what's "all"
[02:18] <Bonez56> lupusbeta, i can't.. the IDE drive is full and it's not able to be used for OS... the drive is already set to boot. why won't it work?
[02:18] <lHck> zulfajuniadi_, which source i need for it please ?
[02:19] <suryan> how to fix broken packages
[02:19] <IdleOne> suryan, sudo apt-get install -f
[02:19] <zulfajuniadi_> lHck: lemme check
[02:19] <lHck> Bonez56, which one is the hd your bios is booting from ?
[02:19] <Bonez56> lHck, The sata drive
[02:20] <lHck> Bonez56, and on which harddisk did you installed your mbr?
[02:20] <crdlb> !find xvnc
[02:20] <lHck> !find xvnc
[02:20] <Bonez56> lHck, i just used the default... hd0
[02:20] <zulfajuniadi_> lHck: all hddisk has mbr, it's just a matter of where the bios boots from
[02:20] <lHck> Bonez56, that's the problem.
[02:20] <zulfajuniadi_> lHck: go to synaptic -> settings -> repositories, mark all
[02:21] <Bonez56> lHck, what does it need to be installed on?
[02:21] <xtknight> does the bios always boot off the mbr? when does it boot off the active partition's boot sector?  or is that stage2???
[02:21] <Feelfiesty> Bonze boot from the live cd and choose the option boot from first hard drive to make sure every thing is installed ok
[02:22] <zulfajuniadi_> actually, when you install a grub on a partition, it will automatically be flagged boot partition, thus bios will boot from that partition
[02:22] <lHck> Bonez56, when install grub, you specify a place where to write the mbr, and you should let your bios know to boot from this mbr
[02:22] <Bonez56> Feelfiesty, i don't have the liveCD, i have alternate CD. also I tried "Boot from first hard disk" option and it does the same thing... "Missing operating system"
[02:22] <xtknight> zulfajuniadi_: right, but the mbr is written
[02:22] <zulfajuniadi_> xtknight: yes, thankyou
[02:22] <Bonez56> lHck, how can I fix grub without having to re-install?
[02:22] <xtknight> or does the mbr point to the active boot partition?
[02:23] <zulfajuniadi_> xtknight: i think so
[02:23] <xtknight> sarcasm?  i dont really understand the proces
[02:23] <lHck> do a grub mbr install only
[02:23] <xtknight> heh
[02:23] <zulfajuniadi_> xtknight: not sarcasm. the mbr point to the partition, i think.
[02:23] <xtknight> afaik, grub is written to bytes 1-440 in mbr (latter 180 or so is partition table).
[02:24] <Bonez56> lHck, how do I do this? I can;t boot
[02:24] <xtknight> stage1 is in mbr, and the mbr code with regards to grub (stage1) is all in that 440 bytes.  it then boots up, loads a small driverset and accesses an ext2 filesystem.  it reads /boot/grub* conf
[02:24] <zulfajuniadi_> 440 bytes is kinda small for grub (under 1 kb!) maybe it just points to the /boot ?
[02:25] <PirateHead> Hooray for Feisty -- can't wait for the official release.
[02:25] <xtknight> yeah so im thinking somewhere inbetween there it accesses something else.  but i guess not
[02:25] <zulfajuniadi_> i see. thankyou for sharing that xtknight
[02:25] <lHck> zulfajuniadi_, that's right, it's pointing to /boot
[02:25] <lHck> his problem is the 1st booting device doesnt have a correct link to the /boot
[02:25] <xtknight> stage1 is in 440.  stage 2 is started from there somehow.  stage 3 is the graphical menu
[02:25] <suryan> Idleone i got Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:25] <xtknight> suryan ya close synaptic
[02:25] <suryan> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:26] <lHck> Bonez56, you have to find a way to boot to allow you run grub
[02:26] <zulfajuniadi_> lHck: if he has installed it correctly, the problem can easily be fixed in bios, just tell bios to boot from the sata
[02:26] <xtknight> Bonez56: so what exactly is happening?
[02:26] <Bonez56> lHck, yeah so if I boot from the CD, what command do I run?
[02:26] <IdleOne> suryan, do you have update manager running?
[02:26] <lHck> zulfajuniadi_, that's right. but looks he have no way to fix bios
[02:26] <Bonez56> xtknight, when I boot, it says "Missing operating system", I think I have installed grub to the wrong location during the ubuntu install
[02:26] <Bonez56> xtknight, now I want to boot from alternate CD and fix grub somehow
[02:27] <xtknight> Bonez56: grub did not get installed in the proper place.  what drive do you have set as boot?
[02:27] <Bonez56> xtknight, but I don't know how
[02:27] <suryan> IDLE One After unpacking 311kB of additional disk space will be used.
[02:27] <suryan> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ?
[02:27] <suryan> shall i give yes
[02:27] <xtknight> Bonez56 you can use the LIVEcd
[02:27] <xtknight> to fix a grub problem
[02:27] <Bonez56> xtknight, I have my 300gb Sata drive set as boot
[02:27] <IdleOne> suryan, yes
[02:27] <suryan> ok
[02:27] <Bonez56> xtknight, i don't have a liveCD, I only have alternate
[02:27] <xtknight> Bonez56 ok what other drives do you have
[02:27] <xtknight> Bonez56 and on which is linux installed
[02:27] <zulfajuniadi_> Bonez56: if you cant install ubuntu on your ide, just a small 100 mb partition would be enough for boot, then the rest in your sata?
[02:27] <Bonez56> xtknight, I have a 120gb IDE drive
[02:27] <lucciolina> does someone know the correspondent of cathy (that is a windows' application) in linux?
[02:27] <xtknight> i dont believe the problem is a separate /boot for now
[02:27] <Bonez56> xtknight, Ubuntu is installed on the SATA
[02:28] <PirateHead> lucciolina: What does cathy do?
[02:28] <suryan> Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 DVD Binary-1 20070311-23:41'
[02:28] <suryan> in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[02:28] <suryan>  whats this
[02:28] <xtknight> Bonez56 swap the boot order and try again.
[02:28] <Bonez56> zulfajuniadi_, i'd much rather just get it working on the SATA instead of having to screw around
[02:28] <Bonez56> xtknight, so you want me to set the IDE drive to boot instead of the SATA?
[02:28] <xtknight> suryan you have debian?  or is this feisty
[02:28] <xtknight> Bonez56 yes i do;P
[02:28] <daggerr_> are most (all) of the binarys in ubuntu i386?
[02:28] <suryan> i installed ubuntu live cd
[02:28] <zulfajuniadi_> xtknight: thats what i told him todo, change the boot order
[02:28] <xtknight> mbr was installed to (hd0) someway along the way.  apparently IDE is (ihd0)
[02:28] <Bonez56> xtknight, roger that captain, lemme have a try and i'll get back to you in a couple of mins
[02:28] <xtknight> zulfajuniadi_ good we agree
[02:28] <zulfajuniadi_> xtknight: yes :D
[02:29] <lucciolina> PirateHead it finds files, directory and application from all the pc also if they have been deleted
[02:29] <suryan>  xtknight i installed live ubuntu cd
[02:29] <xtknight> sosrry gotta go
[02:29] <xtknight> hour's over lol
[02:29] <PirateHead> lucciolina: I'm looking at advertised features on the web as well, and I don't really know of one comprehensive program that does all that stuff. However, various linux administration tools seem to handle many of the features.
[02:30] <Bonez56> xtknight, the only options I have in my BIOS are: 1) Disabled 2) Floppy 3) CD/DVD Pioneer 4) WDC SATA HDD 5) BBS-1 Realtek boot agent, there is no IDE drive
[02:30] <xtknight> suryan sounds like a problem it should not be askiong for etch
[02:30] <xtknight> Bonez56 hmmm i dont know
[02:30] <xtknight> maybe ide is on a different controller
[02:30] <xtknight> good luck though.  i have to run
[02:30] <Bonez56> xtknight, i just realised that my IDE drive was not set up in the BIOS, lol. i've set it now and I will try and boot from it
 yes? can you tell me someones of them?
[02:30] <suryan>  what is solution for this
[02:31] <PirateHead> lucciolina: I don't know about a program that searches for deleted files, but certianly there are programs for Linux that let you search your computer. Beagle is a "desktop search engine" that indexes your computer and lets you find things very quickly.
[02:31] <lHck> Bonez56, run the alternative install CD
[02:31] <lHck> Bonez56, and run grub
[02:31] <zulfajuniadi_> Bonez56: you installed it in sata rite? you should set bios to boot of sata
[02:31] <PirateHead> lucciolina: There's also the "find" program, which runs from the command line and is easy to use. Type "man find" at the command line to learn about that one.
[02:32] <eyeonus> I'm currently using the demo OS from the 6.06 install CD, when starting up, after mem check my computer displays a blinking '_' and nothing else. What can I do to fix this short of re-installing? I've attempted re-installing GRUB, as well as using the CD's 'boot from first hard drive' option, but neither works.
[02:32] <Bonez56> zulfajuniadi_, yes, the sata was always set as primary boot drive, but it still says missing OS
 oh yes.. i knew "find" but it's a little slow for me.. i will try with beagle!
[02:32] <duncan1> lucciolina: Also, try "locate" at the command line -- fast! :)
[02:32] <PirateHead> lucciolina: "locate" is faster than "find" I think, and Beagle is highly rated by many users for being easy and fast.
[02:32] <zulfajuniadi_> Bonez56: try too boot off ide, if that doesn't work, then it seems that your installation is problematic
[02:33] <lHck> Bonez56, in grub, input root(hd1,0)   setup (hd1) and quit
[02:33] <Bonez56> zulfajuniadi_, when I boot from IDE it says "Grub 1.5 loading stage 1Read error"
[02:33] <Bonez56> lHck, ok I will try this now
[02:33] <zulfajuniadi_> Bonez56: does it have error 17 or something?
[02:33] <Bonez56> zulfajuniadi_, no error number
[02:33] <lHck> Bonez56, the above is assume your ide is hd0 and sata is hd1
[02:33] <CNU> how can i add sata_sil24.ko to initrd.img? i got my ubuntu partition on a controller using that driver, and that driver isn't loaded so it won't boot.
[02:33] <Bonez56> lHck, ok thanks i will try that now
[02:34] <zulfajuniadi_> Bones, yes set /boot/grub/device.map as lHck stated
[02:34] <Bonez56> zulfajuniadi_, ok i will try now, just booting from CD wont be long
[02:34] <zulfajuniadi_> CNU: sata_sil24 is default already. I'm using it now.
[02:35] <eyeonus> I'm currently using the demo OS from the 6.06 install CD, when starting up, after mem check my computer displays a blinking '_' and nothing else. What can I do to fix this short of re-installing? I've attempted re-installing GRUB, as well as using the CD's 'boot from first hard drive' option, but neither works.
[02:35] <zulfajuniadi_> eyeonus: have you tried booting off the cd?
[02:35] <eyeonus> Yes
[02:35] <duncan1> eyeonus: Just the memcheck? nothing else? (If so Ram problem?)
[02:36] <zulfajuniadi_> eyeonus: sound like initramfs? does the grub even show?
[02:36] <eyeonus> It's after the mem check, after it has detected the drives, when the boot loader should be starting.
[02:36] <eyeonus> No, grub doesn't appear.
[02:37] <eyeonus> Just a blinking '_'
[02:37] <Bonez56> lHck, when I type 'grub' at the shell it says "Error opening terminal: bterm"
[02:37] <duncan1> eyeonus: Sounds really, really dumb, but leave it at the blinking cursor for a LONG time (like 24-48 hours) -- worked for a dead MythTV box some time ago.
[02:37] <zulfajuniadi_> eyeonus: does bios detect your hddisk properly?
[02:38] <eyeonus> It detects the master, not the slave. This wasn't a problem before, though.
[02:38] <duncan1> eyeonus: Have you installed a new Hard Drive or have a USB stick/CD in?
[02:38] <zulfajuniadi_> eyeonus: duncan1 has a point. happened to me too once while using xp
[02:38] <eyeonus> The master is detected properly.
[02:38] <duncan1> eyeonus: Oh, OK. Master should be enough.
[02:38] <lHck> error number ?
[02:38] <eyeonus> I had it on for a few hours before I realized there was a problem.
[02:38] <crazy_penguin> Good afternoon to all!
[02:38] <lHck> Bonez56, error number ?
[02:38] <movi> i installed ubuntu on a removable usb drive, and it doesnt see my internal sata disk!
[02:39] <zulfajuniadi_> crazy_penguin: it 9 pm here :D
[02:39] <Bonez56> lHck, that is *exactly* what it says
[02:39] <movi> (and i dont mean partitions, i mean the whole sda/sdb is gone)
[02:39] <duncan1> eyeonus: Maybe open the machine, unplug the slave and reboot?
[02:40] <eyeonus> I'll be trying that once I've downloaded the iso for virtualization.
[02:40] <lHck> export TERM=linux
[02:40] <zulfajuniadi_> eyeonus: yes, seems like a hardware problem more than a os.
[02:40] <eyeonus> Well, finished DL'ing.
[02:40] <lHck> Bonez56, export TERM=linux and try grub again
[02:40] <zulfajuniadi_> eyeonus: goodluck!
[02:41] <duncan1> eyeonus: I got a new SATA and took 2 days to realise my machine was not SATA II compat -- one pin jumper change!  :)
[02:41] <hypn0> movi: can't you mount the drive :-/
[02:41] <duncan1> eyeonus: Yes, goodluck!
[02:41] <Bonez56> lHck, on the alternate CD, there is an option in the rescue menu that says "reinstall grub" when I do this, I get a red screen and it says: "Unable to install grub in (hda1,0) Executing Grub-install (hda1,0) failed. This is a fatal error.
[02:41] <movi> hypn0, no, because the drive is not there. not sda/sdbsdwahtever, hal doesnt see it, gparted doesnt see it
[02:41] <movi> the controller is there, but not the drive
[02:42] <eyeonus> All I did was disconnect both drives, hook up the slave as master, install Windows on it, and reconnect the drives as they were before. I honestly don't see what could be the problem.
[02:42] <movi> and yes, the drive is working, because thats what i boot off normally
[02:42] <eyeonus> Alternate CD?
[02:42] <duncan1> eyeonus: AhA! Windows XP and Vista re-write the boot sector on install?
[02:43] <duncan1> eyeonus: I read this in a nerd magazine.. wait...
[02:43] <zulfajuniadi_> movi, does bios recognize the drive?
[02:43] <movi> zulfajuniadi_, i dont have a BIOS, i use a mac (intel)
[02:43] <movi> and its a laptop, and yes, the drive works
[02:43] <zulfajuniadi_> movi: sorry dude, never used macs before :D
[02:43] <movi> zulfajuniadi_, no matter. the old kernel in herd5 works
[02:43] <eyeonus> Win XP, but that shouldn't affect the master's boot sector- it wasn't even plugged in when I installed Win.
[02:43] <movi> zulfajuniadi_, its only when i upgraded it stopped seeing the drive
[02:44] <lHck> Bonez56, fdisk /dev/sda to check if it is really sda1
[02:44] <smilem> hi all
[02:44] <xircx> would a xp recovery cd rewrite the boot log?
[02:44] <Bonez56> lHck, yes, /dev/sda3 = linux, and /dev/sda4 = swap
[02:44] <zulfajuniadi_> movi: then revert to the old kernal. I'm having trouble with the new kernal as well. my processor usage is 100% ALL the time. lol.
[02:44] <xircx> cuz my cd dont come with the boot loader
[02:44] <lHck> sda3 ...
[02:44] <Bonez56> lHck,  (btw, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 = windows vista, im duel booting
[02:44] <movi> blah
[02:45] <duncan1> eyeonus: "If you install Windows Vista (or XP) ona machine already running Linux, it will overwrtie the Master Boot Record (MBR) without prompting. "  Linux Magazine Issue 75
[02:45] <lHck> Bonez56, ok, that's it
[02:45] <zulfajuniadi_> duncan1: yes i can confirm that.
[02:45] <smilem> anyone kind enough to answer a few questions in pm?
[02:45] <movi> somebody tell me the name for the intel sata module
[02:45] <lHck> grub-install hd(1,3)
[02:45] <Bonez56> lHck, what can I do?
[02:45] <smilem> <-- newbie
[02:45] <movi> AHCI one
[02:46] <zulfajuniadi_> lHck: or just edit the /boot/grub/device.map and change hd(0) to /dev/sda ?
[02:46] <dominator> hello, can one use text mode installer if he has livecd? (I have 7.04 beta)
[02:47] <zulfajuniadi_> dominator: linux text?
[02:47] <eyeonus> Okay, so is the MBR located on the drive itself or somewhere else? The Linux drive wasn't hooked up to the computer when I installed WinXP to the other drive.
[02:47] <xircx> gyach sucks
[02:47] <xircx> ;\
[02:47] <lHck> zulfajuniadi_, his case is sdc
[02:47] <lHck> his linux is on sdc
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> eyeonus: it's installed on the first 63 sectors of the hard disk
[02:47] <Bonez56> lHck, i just did grub-install /dev/sda3 and it's fixed it, thank you so much!
 strange... beagle dosent find titles' word! as well.. if i search "home" it finds me for example, messenger's conversations where i said "home", but it didnt find a file that i have on desktop that is named "home sweet home"!
[02:47] <dominator> zulfajuniadi_: I want standard debian installer, like one available on alternate cd's
[02:47] <duncan1> eyeonus: Linux Mag article only says how to save the MBR before you install Windows. Yikes. Nothing on resetting. Maybe Grub re-install?
[02:47] <zulfajuniadi_> dominator: i don't know it it works in ubuntu, but i tried
[02:48] <erUSUL> !pm | smilem
[02:48] <zulfajuniadi_> dominator: i don't know it it works in ubuntu, but i tried in fedora
[02:48] <JosefK> are there any variables available in a logrotate 'postrotate' block, like the filename of the rotated log?
[02:48] <Bonez56> lHck, actually I spoke to soon, now I have a grub error that says "Error 22: No such partition"
[02:48] <zulfajuniadi_> dominator: just type "linux text" on grub (if i'm not mistaken)
[02:48] <xircx> whats the name of the boot loader for xp mrb?
[02:48] <PirateHead> lucciolina: Perhaps it is configured strangely. I don't use Beagle myself, but I'm now downloading it so I can try it out.
[02:48] <eyeonus> Then that shouldn't be my problem- the boot sector on the Linux drive is unaffected, having not been connected to the computer at the time.
 thank youuuuuu ^^
[02:49] <duncan1> eyeonus: Sorry -- mis-read your earlier comments. :)
[02:49] <lHck> Bonez56, u need to specify a boot partion's mounting point
[02:49] <eyeonus> I tried a GRUB re-install
[02:49] <Bonez56> lHck, how do I do this?
[02:50] <duncan1> If you can LiveCD boot, it might point to one of the drives.....?
[02:50] <eyeonus> It didn't work. I may not have done it correctly.
[02:50] <zulfajuniadi_> -away-
[02:50] <ada`ubuntu> I have a serious problem with the 6.10 server (LAMP choosen), port 80 and 993 are NOT responding to the outside. Ofc they are opened on firewall, this is a clean install, but works perfectly with the same firewall on another 6.10 which got updated from an older version. Any idea how to solve it?
[02:50] <eyeonus> I have my Linux drive mounted at /media/master right now.
[02:50] <duncan1> eyeonus: Maybe use knoppix to save your /home/ then upgrade to Fiesty? (Sorry, out of other ideas!)
[02:50] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: by firewall do you mean iptables?
[02:51] <eyeonus> The other drive is detected by Ubuntu, bot not currently mounted.
[02:51] <eyeonus> knoppix?
[02:51] <piedoggie> how can one change Firefox so that when you click the "send link" menu item it sends the link using Thunderbird and not evolution
[02:51] <lHck> Bonez56, in grub, type root (hd1,3)
[02:51] <Bonez56> ok
[02:51] <duncan1> eyeonus: Knoppix = LiveCD with k3b for burning disks of data....
[02:52] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, by firewall I mean a little script which handles the rules, and opening ports I need. Again, its working on the other ubuntu (dist-upgraded one), but fails to work on the clean install. If I make Apache running on 443 port its all perfect
[02:52] <Bonez56> lHck, i get "23: Error while parsing number"
[02:52] <duncan1> Knoppix tries damn hard to hardware detect and fail-over.
[02:52] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: try iptables -L
[02:52] <eyeonus> So you're saying make a backup of my /home and re-install?
[02:52] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, 80, 443 and 993 all opened
[02:52] <duncan1> eyeonus: After trying all else -- !
[02:52] <lHck> Bonez56, that's an error given by grub ?
[02:53] <eyeonus> Yeah, it's that all else, I want to do first.
[02:53] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: localhost:80 in browser can?
[02:53] <duncan1> eyeonus: Maybe there's a Grub expert here? lHck..?
[02:53] <Bonez56> lHck, yesa
[02:53] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, its even fails to work if I delete all iptables chain and make INPUT OUTPUT FORWARD stuff to Accept all. yes localhost and from lan its perfect
[02:53] <lHck> Bonez56, in grub, type root(hd1,  and "tab" key
[02:54] <lHck> Bonez56, to find the possible partions
[02:54] <duncan1> eyeonus: I trust you've visited the BIOS to check boot order?
[02:54] <lgk> Hello im trying to install Ubuntu (from text mode) but when it tries to start the partitioner it says "Device /dev/sdb/ has a logical sector size of 2048" and then the installer doesnt get further than that
[02:54] <Bonez56> lHck, nothing happens, it does not fill anything in
[02:54] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: howbout (your internal ipnumber):80?
[02:54] <eyeonus> CD, Floppy, Primary Master
[02:54] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, nmap fails even from outside, no matter what application im running on the 80 and 993 ports. As soon as I config imaps to 443, its perfect
[02:54] <lHck> Bonez56, hd0 instead
[02:55] <Bonez56> lHck, nothing happens either..,. the shell i am using is all screwed up and grub does not appear to be acting normal, its all weird
[02:55] <eyeonus> I don't have knoppix on the Live OS
[02:55] <PirateHead> lucciolina: on my computer, it's only finding folders and stuff... it is strange. For example, it doesn't find a code file called KotO.c in my home directory, which is certianly something I might want to find. It's probably possible to configure Beagle somehow or other to find things differently, so I'll be looking into it.
[02:55] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: if you configure apache to run at port 8080, does it work?
[02:55] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, works with localhost, 192.168.1.1 (port 80)
[02:56] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: from other computers in your local network?
[02:56] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, yes, local works _prefectly_ without any additional config - its the same the LAMP install configd
[02:56] <eyeonus> I was hoping someone could connect to my system and find out what's wrong first hand.
[02:57] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: by LAMP you mean friends of apache's llamp?
[02:58] <predaeus> !find matypes.h
[02:58] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, by LAMP I mean you can choose the LAMP install during 6.10 server which installs apache2 php5 and mysqlxx by default, and all configured
[02:58] <lgk> Hello im trying to install Ubuntu (from text mode) but when it tries to start the partitioner it says "Device /dev/sdb/ has a logical sector size of 2048" and then the installer doesnt get further than that..
[02:58] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: stupid question, but i assume you restarted apache once you changed the settings right?
[02:59] <Bonez56> lHck, it still is saying "error 22; no such partition"
[02:59] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, ofc, as I told you its working on 443 :). changed the server 10 minutes ago to try out and ports 80 and 993 are opened for sure
[02:59] <lHck> http://www.openbg.net/sto/os/xml/grub.html#multiboot
[02:59] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, only this ubuntu blocks it for some reason (totally same firewall script, ports opened)
[02:59] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: did it happen once you used upgraded the kernal?
[02:59] <lHck> Bonez56, get clear what's the hd number of your disks, where is the kernel, and set it correctly.
[03:00] <Bonez56> lHck, but I can not set it... grub will not listen to me
[03:00] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: did it happen once you upgraded the kernal?
[03:00] <Bonez56> lHck, linux is installed on /dev/sda3, but i can not tell it to boot from that
[03:00] <timbo8> hi everyone, cna i have some help installing abyss webserver?
[03:00] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, no its broken from default (the fresh install is not working). the old upgraded one perfect
[03:00] <timbo8> also, i need some help with panels
[03:00] <levander> Doesn't google report browser market share stats by platform somewhere?  I thought it was part of their zeitgeist stuff, but I just looked and it wasn't in there.
[03:00] <lHck> Bonez56, maybe try mount and chroot and run the grub ?
[03:01] <timbo8> i would appreciate some help with panels first
[03:01] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: maybe you installed (by accident) some other programs that uses the port 80?
[03:01] <Bonez56> lHck, ok i will try that
[03:01] <timbo8> ok, this is my situation
[03:01] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, 8080 not working but I know why, its blocked by central (provider called Sulinet - you have to ask for each port to open)
[03:01] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: have you tried changing the ftp port to port 80, just to see whether apache is the problem?
[03:02] <timbo8> i added a new panel and deleted an old one, but now, the panel i made wont display the little icon for some programs i have running (eg Amorok) so now i cant stop it
[03:03] <timbo8> and i ahve added the right pabel (i think)
[03:03] <timbo8> panel*
[03:03] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, I doubt I install any other app that using port 80, its almost a clean install with updates - no, only tried to run the Apache on port 443 (and courier-imaps). Both working fine on 443 and fails to work on their original port. Let me check this FTP thing
[03:03] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: right click -> add to panel -> window list
[03:03] <timbo8> is that the only one?
[03:03] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, i believe so
[03:04] <timbo8> hmm, it doesnt show Amorok
[03:04] <timbo8> i have put in notification area, but that isnt working either
[03:04] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: usually, you have to resize the window list
[03:04] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: try sudo killall gnome-panel
[03:05] <timbo8> oh, i already ahve a windows list, its jsut the program doesnt appear there
[03:05] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: ok, ill try that now
[03:05] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: thanks, that worked
[03:05] <timbo8> !!!
[03:05] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: then if the panel doesn't restart, type gnome-panel
[03:06] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: thanks a lot
[03:06] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: sure :)
[03:06] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, FTP runs at port 80 now, cant access from outside. nmap cant see that opened either
[03:06] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, its like this ubuntu is blocking port 80 and 993 for some reason to outside :S
[03:06] <eyeonus> Anyone have any ideas for fixing grub I haven't tried yet?
[03:07] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: i seriously think it's a firewall problem. outside do you mean in your LAN or outside from the internet?
[03:07] <timbo8> ok, does anyone here run abyss webserver? because i need help setting it up
[03:07] <Bonez56> what other text editors are available in a recovery shell other than nano and vi
[03:07] <crdlb> Bonez56, what else would there be?
[03:07] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, internet. the server is 280km away from me
[03:07] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: why not apache? or lighttpd?
[03:07] <Bonez56> crdlb, i dont know but neither of them work properly l,they dont format the text and scrolling is fucked
[03:08] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i use abyss on my windows XP, so i thought i should use it on this because i am familiar with it
[03:08] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: wow! try check the router, see if its routig port 80 to your server correctly
[03:08] <crdlb> Bonez56, language, but can you be more specific about the problem?
[03:09] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: it seems that its not in ubuntu repositories. build from source?
[03:09] <crdlb> Bonez56, I know that nano is recommended to be run as: nano -w
[03:09] <lgk> does anyone know alot about harddrives? having problems installing ubuntu
[03:09] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, yes it is because my father switched this server to the old one 20 mins ago, and the old apache was working perfectly
[03:09] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i'd rather jsut install it easily
[03:10] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: tuff luck dude, even the original server (http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/download.php) only serve sources for linux. no binaries
[03:10] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i am trying lighttpd now
[03:10] <ss374>   .
[03:10] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: so does that mean i cant use abyss?
[03:10] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: good luck with that!
[03:10] <Bonez56> crdlb, "Error 22: no such partition" grub error
[03:10] <eyeonus> Well I'll be back if the current suggestions don't work.
[03:11] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, but you have to build from source
[03:11] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: thinking....
[03:11] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: ok, i have just installed through package manager, now how do i run it?
[03:12] <zulfajuniadi_> lighttpd, if im not mistaken, if that doesn't work, try httpd
[03:12] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, I was thinking about the firewall problem aswell but its very strange that it shows opened and SMTP and imap just working fine - btw just realised that ifconfig -a have this: 'sit0      Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4' - can it be the prob?
[03:12] <zulfajuniadi_> no, i wouldn't think so, that's just encapsulation of ipv6 in v4. it shouldn't have anything to do with open ports
[03:13] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: does it come with php built in?
[03:14] <lucifiel> !crontab
[03:14] <lucifiel> hmmm
[03:15] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: if you want php intergration, cgi, perl and all goodies, with minimal effort, try this, http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[03:15] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: ok, thanks, but when i go "localhost", and apache page comes up
[03:16] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: do you have ANY other firewall(s) installed? maybe running as background service?
[03:16] <timbo8> an apache page*
[03:16] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, no, its just a small script editet by me which autorunning in rc2.d - thats all - nothing that should hurt
[03:17] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: stop the apache service
[03:17] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_:how do i do that? (sory if i sound like a noob)
[03:17] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: removing the script and restart?
[03:17] <pokingfun> hello
[03:17] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: apache 1 or 2?
[03:17] <lucifiel> eh does anyone here know how i can find out what're all the cronjobs that're running? also any chance of doing that with GUI ? =/
[03:18] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, total same - 80 and 993 seems closed
[03:18] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: it should say in your localhost
[03:18] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_:im not sure.. the latest one
[03:18] <zulfajuniadi_> try sudo apache2 -k stop
[03:18] <atoponce> the new launchpad beta looks nice
[03:19] <Oliver> <-lucifel less /etc/crontab
[03:19] <dj-fu> Lucifel: crontab -e <user>
[03:19] <dj-fu> also, ls /etc/cron.*/
[03:19] <pokingfun> could somebody arrange there codenames for me: breezy, hoary and worty?
[03:19] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: does XAMPP have apache, php, mysql etc?
[03:19] <Ubuntu_noob> mount partition
[03:19] <dj-fu> timbo8: yea, it's got all that
[03:19] <pokingfun> which is the first?
[03:19] <lucifiel> oh okay thanks guys :)
[03:19] <timbo8> ok, thanks
[03:19] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, all preinstalled
[03:19] <timbo8> but i dont see why apache is running...
[03:20] <dj-fu> warty->hoary->breezy->dapper->edgy->feisty
[03:20] <Oliver> Problems compiling htdig on
[03:20] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: remove it
[03:20] <pokingfun> ty
[03:20] <timbo8> just delete the etc/apache folder?
[03:20] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: no, from synaptic
[03:20] <SlimeyPete> nonono, never do things like that. Always use Synaptic or apt-get or Adept to remove things if possible.
[03:21] <kr0n1x> hi, what is the default software to view pictures in Ubuntu?
[03:21] <timbo8> ok, sorry to sound stupid, im just new to this
[03:21] <kr0n1x> i've erased it, and i would reinstall it now
[03:21] <goomie> how do I mount a mac formatted floppy disk??
[03:21] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: blanko... seriously
[03:21] <kr0n1x> but i don't remember the name...
[03:21] <SlimeyPete> timbo8: synaptic will ensure that all files/links are removed correctly
[03:21] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes, been there :D
[03:22] <fransman> how do i apt-get nvu in feisty ?
[03:22] <timbo8> in synapptic, do i just search for apache then unselect it?
[03:22] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes
[03:22] <timbo8> ok, thanks
[03:22] <Oliver> Problems compiling htdig on Linux susi 2.6.15-28-server   configure: error: To compile ht://Dig, you will need a C++ library. Try installing libstdc++. did installed libstdc++6-dev any suggestions?
[03:22] <zulfajuniadi_> fransman: enable all repos then search in synaptiv
[03:22] <zulfajuniadi_> fransman: enable all repos then search in synaptic
[03:22] <fransman> zulfajuniadi_: i did
[03:22] <lucifiel> oh dear this is oh so confusing :( i'm actually trying to figure out whether it's a cron job that's shutting down Ubuntu.
[03:23] <zulfajuniadi_> sudo apt-cache search nvu?
[03:23] <milan> hey i get errors when running "make all" for my Ralink RT61 drivers... :S
[03:23] <fransman> zulfajuniadi_: take a look here
[03:23] <milan> under feisty
[03:23] <atoponce> kr0n1x: eye-of-gnome
[03:23] <atoponce> kr0n1x: 'eog' in the terminal
[03:23] <kr0n1x> thanks atoponce
[03:23] <atoponce> np
[03:23] <fransman> zulfajuniadi_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nvu&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[03:24] <fransman> it's not there
[03:24] <freeware_xp> hey room
[03:24] <Hidan> oh well... if i can't figure out the issue, i guess it's back to WinXP.
[03:24] <dj-fu> pwned by lack of adventurism
[03:24] <freeware_xp> hidan whats the question?
[03:24] <binfalse> hey
[03:24] <dj-fu> figuring out the issue != being spoon fed, also
[03:24] <Durtro> Hi
[03:24] <Durtro> tell me
[03:24] <binfalse> not sure
[03:25] <goomie> are mac floppys the HFS filesystem?
[03:25] <zulfajuniadi_> fransman: yes, it seems that no nvu
[03:25] <dj-fu> yes, or hfs+
[03:25] <timbo8> ok, i am removing it now
[03:25] <timbo8> and then it wont appear when i go to "localhost?"
[03:26] <Hidan> freeware_xp : well, something's causing Ubuntu to shut down. Could be a faulty onboard lan chip or even a cronjob(someone told me to read up about crontab)
[03:26] <dj-fu> I doubt it's a cronjob.
[03:26] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: apache2 -k stop
[03:26] <freeware_xp> I tried a ubuntu distro called "linux mint" its live and a cd install cd, man it worked nice and had the ubuntu software package installer with over 20 000 packages, very nice
[03:26] <dj-fu> Does it shut down (goes through the init script "Ubuntu is shutting down" etc)
[03:26] <timbo8> thankyou zulfajuniadi
[03:26] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: np
[03:27] <dj-fu> or does it just die?
[03:27] <dj-fu> if it dies, it's not a cronjob
[03:27] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi: i get an error
[03:27] <freeware_xp> hidan i would try a different flavour, like mint
[03:27] <timbo8> root@tim-desktop:~# apache2 -k stop
[03:27] <timbo8> bash: apache2: command not found
[03:27] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: yes.
[03:27] <Ind[y] > Terminal, Home Folder, and Computer start *very* slowly. Why? How can I fix this?
[03:27] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: if just apache?
[03:27] <Hidan> freeware_xp : oh i see, but why?
[03:27] <dj-fu> Ind[y] : welcome to Ubuntu
[03:28] <atoponce> timbo8: /etc/init.d/apache2 -k stop
[03:28] <timbo8> ulfajuniadi_: ok, ill try that
[03:28] <Ind[y] > dj-fu: No, this started to happen since a random boot.
[03:28] <ada`ubuntu> Ind[y] , are you sure your hard drive is healthy?
[03:29] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: i am told that there is no such directory
[03:29] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: dont you need to restart your system when you uninstall programs?
[03:29] <zulfajuniadi_> you have uninstalled apache right? just restart it
[03:29] <freeware_xp> hidan every flavour is different, different drivers etc, it might just be a driver issue, hey mint is a live / install cd, so you try before install
[03:29] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: no, usually no
[03:29] <atoponce> timbo8: no. only for a kernel update
[03:30] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: well, apache has left behind it's index page
[03:30] <timbo8> woudl that be it?
[03:30] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: no, try this system -> administration -> services
[03:31] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: done
[03:31] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: stop apache/apache2/lighttpd/httpd
[03:31] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: none of those are there
[03:31] <zulfajuniadi_> if you http://localhost is apache still there?
[03:31] <milan> hi i get these errors while compiling drivers for my ralink RT61 chip http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13508/
[03:32] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: yes it is
[03:32] <freeware_xp> i've tried fedora a lot of times and my feelings on it is thats its over sized, 4 cd+ and linux mint is just as good , if not better
[03:32] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: try this system -> administration -> system monitor
[03:32] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: try finding it in processes
[03:32] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: done
[03:33] <ALL4N> hi everyone. I want to connect to my work VPN but am not able to find a decent client for linux for this VPN, so I was thinking of letting my laptop have the VPN client running and sharing that connection with Ubuntu. Does anyone have any experience with using a windows computer as gateway for their linux box?
[03:33] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: nope, none are there
[03:33] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: seriously?
[03:33] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: yes
[03:33] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: this is weird
[03:34] <rickcr> what's a good app to use to stream audio from http://www.shoutcast.com ? The default choice in firefox is for rhythmbox... but clicking to allow it to open in that application never seems to do anything. I don't see the url even trying to be played.
[03:34] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: last resort... restart. lol
[03:34] <ALL4N> I tried just sharing the VPN connection on the laptop(with windows) and setting it as gateway on my desktop but it did not work..
[03:34] <timbo8> ok, i will brb
[03:34] <zulfajuniadi_> ok
[03:34] <Solive> I've noticed that there is desktop and server for ubuntu.  Is there a combination of the two?
[03:34] <zulfajuniadi_> Solive: yes, you can install server thingis in desktop
[03:34] <SlimeyPete> Solive: you can just install one of them and then install the appropriate packages to meet your needs
[03:35] <compilerwriter> all4n I connect to my box all the time via M$
[03:35] <zulfajuniadi_> SlimeyPete: i think he should go with gui first, then install server
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> Solive: they're the same OS - they just have different packages installed by default
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> zulfajuniadi_: yeah, that'd be best
[03:35] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: do you do the same way as I described?
[03:35] <Hidan> freeware_xp : okay however, i really don't know if it's worth all the effort. =/ i seem to be getting even more problems now.  *sighs*
[03:36] <angelo92> :)
[03:36] <ada`ubuntu> rickcr, so far I found ONE application thats handleing shoutcast streams well under ubuntu - app called 'mpg123'
[03:37] <ada`ubuntu> rickcr, it has no GUI, but working at least :)
[03:37] <timbo8> ok, im back
[03:37] <Solive> ok thnx
[03:37] <zulfajuniadi_> ada`ubuntu: isn't there like an xmms plugin that can handle shoutcast?
[03:37] <timbo8> and now when i go localhost i get an erro "cant be found"
[03:37] <zulfajuniadi_> yes timbo8
[03:37] <compilerwriter> ALL4n I connect to my box via a windows machine on my home network.   Are you trying to connect to a M$ box or a linux one.
[03:37] <timbo8> which is good XD
[03:37] <rickcr> ok ill try that...  have you tried this (found googling) vlc http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/category/media/
[03:37] <zulfajuniadi_> nice timbo8, nw u can install xamoo
[03:37] <timbo8> ok, cool
[03:37] <timbo8> i will download it now
[03:37] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi_, tried it but not working for me and lot reported not working at forums - dont like XMMS tho :)
[03:37] <timbo8> but, im going to bed now
[03:38] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: I am trying to connect to my work VPN. Its not only the computer but the whole network. There are some intranet sites for instance that I want access to
[03:38] <timbo8> its 11.37 pm here in Aus
[03:38] <Nikolas> amaroK plays shoutcast
[03:38] <Solive> Now is there way to do stuff offline and get all packages needed on install CD
[03:38] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: hehe, still 10 here in Malaysia =D
[03:38] <compilerwriter> all4n rdesktop didn't work for you?
[03:38] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: well, im on school holidays so it doesnt matter much
[03:38] <SlimeyPete> Solive: yes, but I forget what it's called. Hang on.
[03:38] <freeware_xp> rickcr   try this   http://www.lyra.org/pipermail/neon/2006-February/002182.html
[03:39] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: does XAMPP install easily?
[03:39] <zulfajuniadi_> Solive: maybe the dvd is for you?
[03:39] <IMYojimbo> i have intel graphic card, u think i need aglx?
[03:39] <timbo8> do i need to assemble code or anything?
[03:39] <rickcr> can i set a proxy for it to use as well for mpg123?
[03:39] <zulfajuniadi_> timbo8: real easy...
[03:39] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: ok, thanks for your help
[03:39] <timbo8> could i have an email address in case i need any more help?
[03:39] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: or an msn address
[03:39] <ada`ubuntu> rickcr, dont know, check google for more info I guess
[03:40] <krampo> hello, has anyone had a problem with printing from default picture viewer and getting solid black sheet of paper? If  I insert picture into openoffice, it prints ok.
[03:40] <zulfajuniadi_> i have yahoo... zulfajuniadi@yahoo.com
[03:40] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: I don't need access to my computer at work. I want to be able to surf my work network from my linux box
[03:40] <SlimeyPete> Solive: I think there are jigdo images available for Ubuntu, but I don't know where to find them
[03:40] <ALL4N> I don't like working through VNC  :p
[03:40] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi@yahoo.com, ok, thanks
[03:40] <timbo8> i might be intouch, maybe not
[03:40] <ada`ubuntu> How can I check that what groups are a user in? hehe forgot it :)
[03:41] <Solive> Or what I mean is can I get Ubuntu with everything on DVD, including devel.
[03:41] <Ind[y] > Since a random boot, Terminal, Home Folder and Computer load very slowly. Also, the Metacity window manager loads very slowly and the "window" that displays what loads at login (Metacity, The Panel, Nautilus) disappears after a long time. What can I do? Any ideas? Some help, please?
[03:41] <ALL4N> since I bring my work computer(the laptop) to home every night I would like to use it as a gateway to my work network, so I can surf it from my linux box
[03:41] <Ind[y] > Since a random boot, Terminal, Home Folder and Computer load very slowly. Also, the Metacity window manager loads very slowly and the "window"
[03:41] <Ind[y] > that displays what loads at login (Metacity, The Panel, Nautilus) disappears after a long time. What can I do? Any ideas? Some help, please?
[03:41] <SlimeyPete> Solive: check out http://nginyang.uvt.nl/
[03:41] <timbo8> zulfajuniadi_: what is your name? i am tim
[03:41] <ada`ubuntu> Ind[y] , does your hard drive working well? Any service that eating proctime badly? (check with 'top')
[03:42] <zulfajuniadi_> zulfa
[03:42] <compilerwriter> I see what you are getting at all4n I am googling.
[03:42] <zulfajuniadi_> :D
[03:42] <drcode> hi all
[03:42] <timbo8> ok, thanks zulfa
[03:42] <zulfajuniadi_> np tim,
[03:42] <drcode> I have problem installing nvidia
[03:42] <Ind[y] > ada`ubuntu: proctime is ok
[03:42] <dooglus> Ind[y] : try switching to a virtual console and killing 'esd'.  does that speed it up?
[03:42] <Ind[y] > hard drive, I don't know
[03:42] <timbo8> ok, good night everyone
[03:42] <lucifiel> sorry i restarted
[03:42] <Ind[y] > how can I check?
[03:42] <drcode> after I install the driver in xorg.conf and boot , I get black screen
[03:42] <Ind[y] > w8
[03:42] <timbo8> *Bye everybody!*
[03:42] <Ind[y] > virtual console = terminal?
[03:42] <timbo8> *bye doctor Tim!*
[03:42] <drcode> I have laptop with geforce 6100
[03:42] <compilerwriter> all4n what kind of vpn are we talking about perchance.
[03:43] <dooglus> Ind[y] : control-alt-F1 is a virtual console.  alt-f7 takes you back to your desktop
[03:43] <zulfajuniadi_> Ind[y] : is the original terminal alt+ctrl+f1 functioning normally?
[03:43] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: not entirely sure..  the client I use is AT&T networking client
[03:43] <Ind[y] > zulfajuniadi_: what do you mean functioning normally? of course it does
[03:44] <Ind[y] > dooglus: Oh, a console (the term "virtual" confused me)
[03:44] <ooglaboogla> can anyone tell me how to find out what filesystem (ext2, ext3, reiserfs, ufs, etc) is on a partition ? fdisk -l shows the partition in question as Linux type 83, i believe it to be UFS made by bsd how can i confirm this
[03:44] <rickcr> thanks all for the different suggestions. trying them out now.
[03:44] <zulfajuniadi_> Ind[y] : i mean does it take a while to change terminal to gui vice versa?
[03:44] <dooglus> Ind[y] : a console is a physical terminal connected to your computer.  alt-f1 through alt-f6 are virtual consoles, since they're not physically real
[03:44] <compilerwriter> all4n:  Let me see if I have this correct.  Your work computer, your laptop, has access via vpn to the work intranet.  You want to surf the intranet from the console on your linux box.
[03:45] <sogen> #ubuntu-pl
[03:45] <Ind[y] > zulfajuniadi_: no
[03:45] <zulfajuniadi_> dooglus: thanks for sharing that with us dooglus,
[03:45] <Ind[y] > dooglus: ok
[03:45] <Ind[y] > How do I kill esd?
[03:45] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: yepps, thats how I want it.
[03:45] <Ind[y] > I don't find it with ps -aux
[03:45] <dooglus> Ind[y] : "pkill -9 esd"
[03:45] <Ind[y] > thx
[03:45] <IMYojimbo> i have intel graphic card, u think i need aglx?
[03:46] <dooglus> Ind[y] : strange.  are you running GNOME?
[03:46] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: I am not intending to surf from the console though  :p
[03:46] <Ind[y] > dooglus: yes
[03:46] <Ind[y] > killed esd
[03:46] <Ind[y] > *slightly* faster
[03:46] <compilerwriter> all4n: I am not sure how to do that precisely; but I have an idea.
[03:46] <Ind[y] > what is esd?
[03:46] <dooglus> Ind[y] : it's a sound daemon
[03:47] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: shoot, I'm all open for suggestions
[03:47] <dooglus> Ind[y] : is the problem you have only at startup?  or all the time?
[03:47] <Solive> thnx
[03:47] <compilerwriter> all4n: you can fire up a browser on your laptop at home and surf your works intranet correct?
[03:47] <_aricz> What kind of text-/graphicsmode is the console ? (ctrl+alt+f1).. and how do I change it? :)
[03:47] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: yes
[03:47] <Ind[y] > dooglus: Terminal, Home Folder and Computer all the time load slow
[03:47] <aj_> I have been having problems while logging into yahoo with fire fox, it will just close down, so I instaled moe to install "PSM' I can not find this anywhere any help would be awesomezzila browser last night and it gave me the messag
[03:48] <Ind[y] > at startup, the "what-is-loading-at-boot" window disappears after a long time
[03:48] <compilerwriter> What you may have to do is rsh into your laptop from the linux box and then fire up a browser on it the contents of which are displayed on your *nix box.
[03:50] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: hmmm.. it would still have some lag
[03:50] <Ind[y] > dooglus: may mysqld slow things down?
[03:50] <digitalspaghetti> hey folks, does Ubuntu come with a standard mail server?  i am developing applications on my local desktop and i need to be able to send email through PHP
[03:50] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: it would be better with same access on my ubuntu box to the vpn as my laptop has
[03:50] <digitalspaghetti> but it doesn't seem to work out the box
[03:50] <dooglus> Ind[y] : only if the database is busy
[03:50] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti: exim4, sendmail postfix all do that function
[03:50] <Ind[y] > dooglus: It isn't.
[03:51] <zulfajuniadi_> digitalspaghetti: check this out : http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[03:51] <digitalspaghetti> i thought sendmail and exim4 were on here
[03:51] <compilerwriter> all4n: I agree with you completely, but without knowing what sort of vpn you are dealing with getting a vpn client configured on *nix is a crap shoot.
[03:51] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti:  but you have to configure them to use a smart relay
[03:51] <digitalspaghetti> ahh, ook
[03:51] <digitalspaghetti> well i'll have a look at these docs
[03:51] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti: *might* have to.
[03:51] <Shamrock_hh> digitalspaghetti: postfix is supposed to be better
[03:52] <inatel> tem algum brasileiro ai??
[03:52] <dooglus> Ind[y] : what if you run "gnome-terminal" from a terminal window?  does that open quickly?  and if not, how long (in seconds) does it take?
[03:52] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: hmm.. I understand that. You don't think its possible to share the VPN on the laptop and use it as a gateway to the VPN for the ubuntu box though?
[03:52] <inatel> tem algum brasileiro ai??
[03:52] <razo1> ALC880
[03:52] <digitalspaghetti> ahh, looking at that it might just be quicker to put on to a remote server and test then :/
[03:52] <digitalspaghetti> thanks anyway folks
[03:53] <Ind[y] > dooglus: w8 please
[03:53] <razo1> How do i run an executable file as root user?
[03:53] <Bluedog> Is there a way to make MS Office 2007 run under ubuntu?
[03:53] <Ind[y] > dooglus: 15-17 seconds
[03:53] <Bluedog> Wine doesnt seem to support it..
[03:53] <xtknight> Bluedog: Wine can/will eventually
[03:54] <xtknight> razo1: sudo <cmd>
[03:54] <dooglus> Ind[y] : what if you run "xterm" instead of "gnome-terminal"?
[03:54] <Bluedog> 2003/2007 both show as 'garbage' on app db currently :(
[03:54] <compilerwriter> all4n:  let me see if I can figure out the vpn stuff from the web.  I honestly don't know how one would do the share the vpn thing.  It is probably possible, but I am not the person who has that answer.  I am just doing my best to come up with another solution.
[03:54] <xtknight> razo1: rathher, sudo "./file"
[03:54] <concept10> Anyone know if I could remove the package locales on a -server install safely?
[03:54] <xtknight> Bluedog give them some time or use cedega
[03:54] <razo1> like sudo "./home/desktop/hereisthefile"  ???
[03:54] <xtknight> concept10 is there a particular reason youd want to
[03:54] <Bluedog> xtknight: does cedega do office?
[03:55] <xtknight> razo1: no not ./ if specifying the whole path.  . means current dir
[03:55] <razo1> ok
[03:55] <razo1> thanks
[03:55] <razo1> now i get it :)
[03:55] <concept10> xtknight: I speak english only, im trying to get the most minimum system that works
[03:55] <xtknight> Bluedog: or the other one.  transoffice or something.  i cant remember
[03:55] <hidan> xtknight: wow, you're still here?!
[03:55] <kishore> i am gettting an error at login--no servers mentioned in configaration file, so a default server is started for you
[03:55] <freakynl> is ubuntu blocking ctrl+c or something over ssh? :P have started several apps remote over SSH and can't break out of any of them with ctrl+c
[03:55] <xtknight> concept10: localepurge u can try maybe
[03:55] <Ind[y] > dooglus: same
[03:55] <xtknight> hidan: sure im here off and on.
[03:56] <dooglus> Ind[y] : xterm takes 15 seconds to start up?
[03:56] <freakynl> strange thing is, breaking out of for loops etc works fine
[03:56] <Ind[y] > dooglus: yes
[03:56] <dooglus> Ind[y] : which version of ubuntu are you using?
[03:56] <Ind[y] > dooglus: Edgy Eft
[03:56] <Ind[y] > 6.10
[03:57] <dooglus> Ind[y] : this reminds me of a bug I raised 18 months ago
[03:57] <hidan> xtknight: hey can i ask you a question? since i seem to be getting more and more problems(again!), people've advised me to try a different flavour. Or, should i just go back to WinXP?
[03:57] <xtknight> xterm or gnome-terminal?>
[03:57] <dooglus> Ind[y] : the 15 seconds delay is indicitive of a bad bookmark.  do you have any bookmarks in nautilus?
[03:57] <Ind[y] > dooglus: btw, the command "mysqld" is the same as /etc/init.d/mysql start?
[03:57] <Ind[y] > dooglus: bookmark?
[03:57] <Ind[y] > dooglus: bookmarks?
[03:57] <xtknight> hidan: which problems
[03:57] <dooglus> Ind[y] : /etc/init.d/mysql will check whether it's already running, and run it with the correct flag
[03:57] <xtknight> !ask | hidan
[03:57] <ubotu> hidan: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:58] <Ind[y] > dooglus: ok. what do you mean bookmarks?
[03:58] <dooglus> Ind[y] : in nautilus, the 5th menu along the top is 'bookmarks'
[03:58] <Ind[y] > yes
[03:58] <dooglus> Ind[y] : do you have any?
[03:58] <Ind[y] > no
[03:58] <xtknight> wipe home folder prefs for nautilus maybe
[03:59] <xtknight> ~/.nautilus ?
[03:59] <hidan> xtknight: lol... well, i'm not sure if you were the one who asked me to look up a crontab. Well, about 20 mins ago, syslog keeps spitting out plenty of error messages. let me find them. And also, I can't seem to access "Disks" anymroe from System.
[03:59] <Ind[y] > xtknight: sorry?
[03:59] <dooglus> Ind[y] : if you run "strace xterm", you'll see a bunch of stuff scroll up the screen
[03:59] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: thats all right, thanks anyways. I am looking on the web myself
[03:59] <dooglus> Ind[y] : but after a while it'll slow down.  what's the last line while it's being slow starting?
[03:59] <xtknight> hidan: nope havent said anything about cron.  k pastebin syslog,  preferably klog (dmesg) actually.  it's easier to read
[04:00] <hidan> !pastebin
[04:00] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:00] <xtknight> Ind[y] : wait, so bash is taking long to load? or xterm?
[04:00] <xtknight> go in an xterm and type bash after it loads.  see if that bash command is instantenous
[04:00] <Ind[y] > dooglus: write(4, "\1\1\1\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 16
[04:00] <Ind[y] > read(4,
[04:00] <robinlinth> guys, I am looking for support for a problem that i have a year now! Yes, a year. The problem is a very slow computer. Upon reinstall, it is snappy and fast, but after a few months it becomes slower and slower. My specs are not bad, so it's not that. Somebody suggested that it could be X. Okay, so, maybe it is X. Can anyone please help me with this problem? Specs: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250, RAM: 512MB, HDD: Maxtor
[04:00] <robinlinth> 80GB
[04:00] <xtknight> strace is greek
[04:00] <dooglus> Ind[y] : ok.  what if you do as xtknight asks - just type "bash" - does that give you a new prompt quickly?
[04:01] <xtknight> ltrace can be more helpful imho
[04:01] <Ind[y] > 0.5-1 second delay
[04:01] <crayzee> How do I make a process use just 1 core of my dual core processor?
[04:01] <Ind[y] > so, yes. quickly
[04:01] <dooglus> xtknight: nautilus is slow starting up, too, and that doesn't use bash...
[04:01] <xtknight> crayzee: the keyword is "affinity".  not sure how to do it.  maybe lookup a program called "nice".  "nice" does priority,.
[04:01] <dooglus> xtknight: I'm stuck for any more ideas...
[04:01] <Ind[y] > I think the problem is about Metacity.
[04:02] <xtknight> dooglus: so what happens when you type bash in an xtertm
[04:02] <xtknight> slow?
[04:02] <crayzee> xtknight, thanks
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: Ind[y]  has the problem, not me
[04:02] <xtknight> oh sorry i'm confusing you guys's problems
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: but he says bash is fast to start up
[04:02] <xtknight> dooglus: what's your issue with nailus?
[04:02] <xtknight> nautilus*
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: I don't have an issue
[04:02] <xtknight> oh :)
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: I'm just trying to help Ind[y] 
[04:02] <Ind[y] > I think everything is Metacity's fault.
[04:02] <xtknight> Ind[y] : nautilus and xterm are slow right?
[04:02] <robinlinth> Can anyone help me with that one?
[04:02] <hidan> xtknight: well, it's uploading now into pastebin.
[04:02] <Ind[y] > But I am not sure.
[04:02] <dooglus> xtknight: I fixed all my ubuntu problems by reformatting the hard disk :)
[04:02] <Ind[y] > xtknight: yes
[04:03] <Levh-i> Selam, Hello!
[04:03] <xtknight> Ind[y]  it could be metacity or gtk.  i wouldnt have any reason to think it's metacity over gtk
[04:03] <robinlinth> Please?
[04:03] <dooglus> xtknight: xterm doesn't use gtk?
[04:03] <Ind[y] > I think, that all started since I added the splash image.
[04:03] <xtknight> metacity just draws your window borders.  gtk is the engine that draws, and additionally it's the basis of many ghnome apps as it handles some low levl calls
[04:03] <Ind[y] > But it just may be coincidence.
[04:03] <xtknight> i dont think xterm uses metacity either but i could be wrong
[04:04] <hidan> xtknight: bah it's taking a long time to send to pastebin. =/
[04:04] <compilerwriter> all4n I have found a white paper that is rendering clues, but honestly you might have to talk to AT&T support to find out which protocols etc.
[04:04] <crimsun> xterm doesn't use gtk, no.
[04:04] <xtknight> hidan you can always try another pastebin
[04:04] <dooglus> xtknight: all windows have their borders drawn by metacity
[04:04] <xtknight> dooglus: in gnome yes
[04:04] <robinlinth> Hello?
[04:04] <hidan> xtknight : huh? where?
[04:04] <StoneNote> robinlinth,  I fix all my problems by rebooting a windows box. j/k.  I've never experienced any severe slowdowns except when some java tries to hijjack firefox, and usually I get a warning about a runaway script and an option to cancel it, which I do. end of problem
[04:04] <hidan> !pastebin
[04:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:04] <sogen> wiehttp://www.maxior.pl/?p=index&id=51332&17
[04:04] <xtknight> dooglus xterm is not a gnome program, though.  if it;s the one i'm thinking of
[04:04] <Ind[y] > But the "loading window" stacks at Metacity for a long time.
[04:04] <StoneNote> robinlinth, run htop and see if you can isolate what is eating up the cpu
[04:04] <compilerwriter> all4n in the mean time the rsh to your laptop is a kludgy thing that I am certain will work.
[04:04] <concept10> How much longer will dapper be supported?
[04:05] <xtknight> Ind[y]  hrm, what do you mean?
[04:05] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: just ask ask the question
[04:05] <crimsun> concept10: until june 2009.
[04:05] <robinlinth> StoneNote, Hm.. well, firefox is definetly not the cause here. Even without anything running, it is slow. Well, GNOME is running.
[04:05] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: okay, I'll try that
[04:05] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, okay:
[04:05] <xtknight> hidan i dont know...pastebin.com , rafb.net, etc
[04:05] <robinlinth> guys, I am looking for support for a problem that i have a year now! Yes, a year. The problem is a very slow computer. Upon reinstall, it is snappy and fast, but after a few months it becomes slower and slower. My specs are not bad, so it's not that. Somebody suggested that it could be X. Okay, so, maybe it is X. Can anyone please help me with this problem? Specs: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250, RAM: 512MB, HDD: Maxtor
[04:05] <robinlinth> 80GB
[04:05] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: windows support rsh or I need to install something?
[04:05] <xtknight> !repeat | robinlinth
[04:05] <ubotu> robinlinth: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:05] <robinlinth> That's what I said.
[04:05] <Ind[y] > xtknight: When I login, a window appears that shows what is loaded. Right? (Metacity, The Panel, Nautilus)
[04:05] <vali> Hello. Help. How do I make x.org/xfce automatically load the "ro winkeys" keymap ? I do it by writing "setxkbmap ro winkeys" in a terminal, but want it done at startup.
[04:05] <robinlinth> xtknight, I had to repeat, zulfajuniadi said so.
[04:05] <concept10> !dapper
[04:05] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th release of Ubuntu.  Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake".
[04:05] <xtknight> robinlinth: that's pretty vague.  maybe disable file indexing (updatedb).  did you try xfce
[04:05] <xtknight> sorry
[04:06] <robinlinth> xtknight, No, i'm in GNOME. Xfce doesn't provide enough features for me
[04:06] <crimsun> win 39
[04:06] <xtknight> Ind[y] : ohh
[04:06] <Ind[y] > dooglus: So, any ideas?
[04:06] <StoneNote> robinlinth, somethings got to be running and eating up the cpu.  htop is a pretyt nice app you can run and minimize. if you machine starts slowing down you can take a look and see what's doing the damage
[04:06] <dooglus> xtknight: I think you're getting confused.  xterm isn't a Gtk app, but if you run it in gnome, metacity will draw borders around it;  the same goes for any app you run in gnome, even KDE apps
[04:06] <xtknight> Ind[y]  the splash screen freezes at metacity?
[04:06] <Underlin3> how do I mount a .img or .iso file to run as a cd???
[04:06] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: maybe it's too bloated, checked your free memory lately?
[04:06] <Ind[y] > xtknight: yes
[04:06] <dooglus> Ind[y] : no!  what if you run "xclock"?  fast or slow?
[04:06] <xtknight> dooglus: i suppose i wasnt aware...gtk!=metacity though
[04:07] <Bluedog> If I want to use crossover linux, should I use the debian version?
[04:07] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, Free memory is okay.
[04:07] <compilerwriter> all4n I think there is a client that is compatible with windows remote desktop out there.  You will have to install that.  There was someone else with that issue a while back.  Unfortunately for you, I can't remember the proggy's name.
[04:07] <Snottle> Hey guys, I was wondering is it more difficult than usual to get ubuntu running on a laptop? I just bought my first laptop and it comes preinstalled with Vista, which I have no interest in using at all
[04:07] <dooglus> xtknight: gtk is a toolkit for making apps (widgets, etc) and metacity is a window manager that draws the frames around windows
[04:07] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, I tend not to use heavy programs like Azureus. Cos, like I said, i've been trying to solve this for years now
[04:07] <xtknight> Bluedog if they dont have an ubuntu yea
[04:07] <Underlin3> !info .img
[04:07] <Ind[y] > dooglus: 7-8 seconds
[04:07] <ubotu> Package .img does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:07] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: no worries, I'll research it
[04:07] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: thanks anyways
[04:07] <xtknight> dooglus: i had thought that metacity drew the pretty gnome borders only, not the harsh normal X borders.  didnt know
[04:07] <Bluedog> xtknight: thanks, its a .deb anyhow
[04:07] <compilerwriter> sorry I can't be of more use. all4n
[04:07] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: processor on idle is at ? %
[04:08] <Underlin3> !info .iso
[04:08] <ubotu> Package .iso does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:08] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, minimum 4%, but it is on 18% often
[04:08] <compilerwriter> all4n stay on irc if you can.  If I can somehow jog my memory I will message you.
[04:08] <xtknight> dooglus i really dont think it does.  are you sure xterm is using metacity?  it looks the same when you use metacity and beryl.  it seemed to be independent for me.  xterm deoesnt have any borders that look like metacity themes
[04:08] <robinlinth> and when i move my mouse it's on 25%
[04:09] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: examples of slowness?
[04:09] <Underlin3> how do I mount a .img or .iso file??
[04:09] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: sure, I think there might be a linux client I can use, I just did a search on the intranet and a few hits came up
[04:09] <xtknight> Underlin3 for iso, mount -t iso9660 -o loop ./isofile /mnt/point
[04:09] <Ind[y] > xtknight, dooglus: Any suggestion?
[04:09] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, slow respond times, apps don't open as fast as they used to, firefox doesn't respond too fast, all actions go slow, like, you want to open a tab, and it opens a second afterwards.
[04:09] <Underlin3> thanks ill try it:)
[04:09] <Snottle> any opinions at all about the laptop thing?
[04:09] <xtknight> Ind[y]  all i can suggest is that it's something in your home folder ( A hidden settings ~/.* folder)
[04:09] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, It doesn't do what you want to do, on the time you want it do do what you want it to do.
[04:09] <hidan> xtknight: sorry, i'm taking kinda long 'cos there're some nasty issues with firefox. hang on.
[04:10] <aurax> hello
[04:10] <aurax> does anyone knows of a way to create a voip system that uses directly a modem?
[04:10] <xtknight> hidan that's ok im busy
[04:10] <jimmy20013> Hi, I just install Dapper Drake on my box and I am trying to get it to see my agp card but it is not working. Any suggestions?
[04:10] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: yeah, that was easy to understand. :D. is it just firefox, or other apps also?
[04:10] <hidan> xtknight: yeah well, firefox seems to be chewing up a lot of cpu and the whole system's lagging.
[04:10] <jimmy20013> *AGP video card
[04:10] <xtknight> hidan big file i gues
[04:10] <Ind[y] > xtknight: Will it help if I empty it?
[04:11] <hidan> xtknight: yeah... it's kinda long...
[04:11] <xtknight> Ind[y]  its not exactly safe.  basically youd have to create anew user acct or risk liosing personal prefs/data
[04:11] <badserii> how to uninstall in ubuntu something that was installed from a package (Opera)?
[04:11] <xtknight> sorry for my keyboara, im on a lapto'
[04:11] <hidan> xtknight: i hope the file sends through.
[04:11] <Ind[y] > xtknight: which directories should I erase (I will take the risk)?
[04:12] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, Other apps also.
[04:12] <newubun> hey guys
[04:12] <newubun> can i get some help with partitioning a dualboot
[04:12] <newubun> ???
[04:12] <xtknight> Ind[y]  alright i hope you know how to use the virtual terminals if gnome fails
[04:12] <Ind[y] > xtknight: :P
[04:13] <zulfajuniadi> do you have beryl or other eye-candies installed robinlinth?
[04:13] <hidan> xtknight: holy moly it's STILL sending lol... oh well, i'll give it another 5 to 10 mins.
[04:13] <xtknight> Ind[y]  rm -rf ~/.gnome* && rm -rf ~/.nautilus && rm -rf ~/.themes && rm -rf ~/.icons && rm -rf ~/.metacity
[04:13] <StoneNote> robinlinth, almost sounds like a windows zombie machine.  while it's pretty rare for your linux box to get hijacked, it's not impossible.  just so you can check it off your list, "apt-get install chkrootkit rkhunter" and make sure next time you run into this situation
[04:13] <xtknight> hidan dont wory bout it
[04:13] <ReTyPe> my package python-uno is broken
[04:13] <newubun> i'm trying to partition a primary drive for a dual boot and it wont let me partition a primary... only logical
[04:13] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, I installed Compiz yesterday, and I disabled it. BUT, it was slow BEFORE i installed Compiz. Just as slow.
[04:13] <newubun> i'm trying to partition a primary drive for a dual boot and it wont let me partition a primary... only logical
[04:13] <robinlinth> StoneNote, Well, I had windows on it for like 3 years or something. It's off my machine now
[04:14] <ReTyPe> newubun: is the drive in use ?
[04:14] <newubun> yes
[04:14] <newubun> i have winxp on it now
[04:14] <Ind[y] > xtknight: looks dangerous. I won't do it :P
[04:14] <StoneNote> robinlinth, I can't see where one would have anything to do with the other
[04:14] <xtknight> Ind[y]  haha
[04:14] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: try running, let say firefox, from the terminal, see what warnings and errors are hidden
[04:14] <newubun> any ideas??
[04:14] <xtknight> Ind[y]  create a new user see if it has the same issues
[04:14] <newubun> can i dual boot if i only make it logical?
[04:15] <aurax> does anyone knows of a way to create a voip system that uses directly a modem?
[04:15] <ALL4N> compilerwriter: hmm..  I realise when I read the instructions here that I should be able to connect properly using freeswan and something called agn-dialer
[04:15] <xtknight> logical/primary has nothing to do with dualboot
[04:15] <xtknight> lower level
[04:15] <Jumbola> is there any third party package installer app for edgy? i m new linux user.  can someone help me thanks.
[04:15] <Ind[y] > xtknight: ok. thanks :)
[04:15] <robinlinth> StoneNote, well, maybe it infected some part in my computer while windows was on it.
[04:15] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, alright.
[04:15] <newubun> ok so xtknight if i make a partition logical drive then i can still dual boot from it then?
[04:15] <newubun> is that what your saying?
[04:15] <xtknight> Jumbola third party?  are you looking for something synaptic/apt do not have?
[04:15] <StoneNote> robinlinth, I guess the most important question: are you having this trouble right now? if you are then zulfajuniadi is making a good suggestion. if not then you'll be spinning your wheels
[04:15] <xtknight> newubun absolutely
[04:15] <Gorlis1> Hi, quick question gys - ive accidentally deleted a folder from the lib directory as root
[04:15] <Gorlis1> is their anyhow I can restore it?
[04:15] <xtknight> newubun if you install grub on the mbr.  really old bios may not be able to use >4 primaries
[04:16] <xtknight> i dont know
[04:16] <adamh> Gorlis1: not directly, no. Deleted files are deleted.
[04:16] <quaal> does anyone know about mdadm? my raid array will not remain assembled after a reboot. does anyone know what the problem could be?http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2389651#post2389651
[04:16] <newubun> no no i'm not using grub for bootloader
[04:16] <adamh> Unless you used Nautilus, in which case they'll be in the trash can.
[04:16] <newubun> i'm using ntldr
[04:16] <newubun> windows
[04:16] <robinlinth> StoneNote, My PC is slow as we speak, yes.
[04:16] <xtknight> um
[04:16] <quaal> newubun, bad idea.
[04:16] <Gorlis1> well ive only just deleted it, doesn't it go into a recycling bin?
[04:16] <xtknight> interesting you're in this channel for Windows :PP
[04:16] <erUSUL> Gorlis1: no, no an easy one...
[04:16] <xtknight> bu tit should work
[04:16] <newubun> i've done it before for other distros
[04:16] <newubun> and it worked
[04:16] <erUSUL> Gorlis1: rm is forever
[04:16] <zulfajuniadi> quaal: actually my raid wasn't assembled after updating kernal
[04:16] <xtknight> but it should*
[04:16] <varaonaid> I'm new to ubuntu and have a couple of quick questions.  is edgy upgradeable to feisty?
[04:16] <adamh> Gorlis1: How did you delete the files?
[04:16] <zulfajuniadi> *kernel
[04:16] <adamh> varaonaid: yes
[04:17] <xtknight> varaonaid yes it is.
[04:17] <Jumbola> xtknight:  i have synaptic .. but want to ask is there another one like synaptic? well Apt not working on my pc..
[04:17] <xtknight> !update | varaonaid
[04:17] <Gorlis1> hmm well I was removing a fault game - glest
[04:17] <quaal> zulfajuniadi, i'm on 2.6.17-11-generic
[04:17] <ubotu> varaonaid: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:17] <xtknight> Jumbola that's deadly.  let's fix apt
[04:17] <quaal> zulfajuniadi, i've never updated
[04:17] <Gorlis1> and i deleted it, then accidentally removed another folder
[04:17] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi, breaking news: its working now. after 4 days of reading and googling and testing, I just found that I was forwarding the port80 to 3128 for proxy.... how lame :)
[04:17] <xtknight> Jumbola apt is almost the basis of your system...dangerous if it doesn;'t work
[04:17] <Gorlis1> something "gnome-xxxx"
[04:17] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: gaa!!
[04:18] <adamh> Gorlis1: How did you delete it?
[04:18] <Gorlis1> through sudo nautilus
[04:18] <Gorlis1>  :(
[04:18] <Jumbola> xtknight:  i tried to install Apt. but when i select it for install its gave me error in return
[04:18] <newubun> ok so can we conclude this cuz i'm getting mixed messages... Can I or can i not dual boot ubuntu with just a logical drive?? When i'm trying to partiion using qparted i can only create logical drive for some reason... Can i get a final answer to this please?? :(
[04:18] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: never thought of that, thanks for sharing ada`ubuntu
[04:18] <adamh> Gorlis1: Then it should be in a Trash can.
[04:18] <varaonaid> ubotu: thanks.  one more question.  when I install, do I get the option to keep the files in my /home partition?
[04:18] <hidan> xtknight: hmmm i think i'll zip up the file and upload the zip somewhere instead. it's obvious the file can't send since it's so huge.
[04:18] <zulfajuniadi> varaonaid: ubotu is a bot
[04:18] <Gorlis1> well, thats what i thought
[04:18] <xtknight> hidan sorry i can't open zips.. im on an ibook :(
[04:18] <xtknight> :P
[04:18] <xtknight> i dont know how at least
[04:18] <Gorlis1> but its not their in my (user) trash can?
[04:18] <bjohan> When i try to install acroread i get a complaint about the architecture (i386) not being supported, obviously im using another arch :) but how do i change it so that the package manager understands?
[04:19] <Gorlis1> how can I view the root trash?
[04:19] <newubun> ???
[04:19] <robinlinth> StoneNote, The rootkit scanners all gave the result: 0
[04:19] <robinlinth> AKA no rootkits found
[04:19] <varaonaid> dumb me, thanks!
[04:19] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi, I copied fwall script from old computer and used transparent proxy there but couldbt be arsed so far to setup squid on this so far. and.. doh. :) *vanishing*
[04:19] <xtknight> Gorlis1: gksu nautilus trash:///\
[04:19] <Askar> How do i run fortune so that it is offensive?
[04:19] <xtknight> without hte \
[04:19] <StoneNote> robinlinth, that's a good thing.
[04:19] <hidan> xtknight: it's okay... i'll try uploading the text file itself then.
[04:19] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: so simple ye so complicated :D
[04:19] <Gorlis1> nothing their..
[04:19] <xtknight> Gorlis1 or maybe /root/.trash (with show hidden folders)
[04:20] <newubun> ummmm... so can i dual boot with just a logical partition or not guys?
[04:20] <newubun> or does it have to be primary?
[04:20] <xtknight> newubun either
[04:20] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, Firefox gave no errors.
[04:20] <newubun> xtknight are u sure bro?
[04:20] <ada`ubuntu> zulfajuniadi, thanks (and sorry) for your time its me being lame. cya
[04:20] <newubun> this is major surgery here
[04:20] <xtknight> newubun 99%
[04:20] <newubun> lol
[04:20] <newubun> ok
[04:20] <xtknight> no not 100
[04:20] <newubun> just set the boot flag right?
[04:20] <xtknight> with ntldr i dont know
[04:20] <xtknight> ask in a windows chcannel
[04:20] <zulfajuniadi> ada`ubuntu: yes, i lernt something new today, so not-so-lame at all
[04:20] <Gorlis1> lucky puppy
[04:20] <newubun> ok
[04:20] <xtknight> pretty sure grub can
[04:20] <Gorlis1>  - gnome-applets
[04:20] <genii> robinlinth:  I'm pretty certain your general slowing-down issue is related to some stupid little cyclic error whic does not really impact the machine's operation but which does preoccupy it in writing to the logs about it.
[04:21] <Gorlis1> yes thanks, root/trash
[04:21] <Gorlis1> unhid folders
[04:21] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: kde or gnome?
[04:21] <robinlinth> genii: /var/messages contains no suspicious messages.
[04:21] <robinlinth> zulfajuniadi, GNOME
[04:21] <[WaZ] > could be artsd
[04:21] <Askar> How do i run fortune so that it is offensive?
[04:21] <genii> robinlinth Please not how many different files are in that directory /var/log   and how any of them could be the culprit
[04:22] <kane77> Askar, fortune -o
[04:22] <amc> hi. on manual partitioning in 7.04 live cd i get "WINDOWSSYSTEM32CONFIGSYSTEM.LOG is 1k, but it has 215 clusters (1720k)." w/ options - "ignore" and "cancel"
[04:22] <amc> what should i do?
[04:23] <Jumbola> xtknight0: well sorry dude its not Apt. its Adept Manager.  how can i install Apt ? sorry i m new so asking basic questions :<
[04:23] <Gorlis1> anyhow, problem resolved - thanks for the help
[04:23] <xtknight> Jumbola not synaptic but it's apt.  adept is kde's front-end
[04:24] <xtknight> Jumbola apt is already installed.  what's wrong with it?
[04:24] <robinlinth> genii, I don't have any understanding of that directory. Maybe you do, so i made a screenshot of it: http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6994/varlogbj1.png
[04:24] <JBond2> What's the recommended program to compose and edit videos? I'm looking for one which should be simple to use. Only need some basic functionality, such as fade in fade out pictures, and join multiple videos to single one.
[04:24] <JBond2> Please, give me your recommendation.
[04:24] <Jumbola> xtknight:  There is no Apt kinda name anything in system Admistration ? where i can found Apt?
[04:24] <xtknight> kino possibly, JBond2.  bubt i have never used it.  i know it is t
[04:24] <xtknight> it is the only one i know*
[04:24] <zulfajuniadi> robinlinth: try system->administration->system log
[04:25] <bjohan> anyone knows how to change the arch from i386 to the actual?
[04:25] <xtknight> Jumbola apt is a system  componenet.  what are you trying to do?
[04:25] <JBond2> thanks, xtknight.
[04:25] <Aqwis> anyone using a P5B motherboard got the integrated NIC to work with Ubuntu?
[04:25] <xtknight> bjohan actual?
[04:25] <Andeh> Hello
[04:25] <Andeh> I updated firefox
[04:25] <xtknight> Aqwis new marvell chipset huh?
[04:25] <JBond2> anyone more than kino?
[04:25] <Aqwis> realtek chipset
[04:25] <Jumbola> xtknight:  looking for softwares installer like Synaptic
[04:25] <Aqwis> RTL8111B
[04:25] <xtknight> !find cinema
[04:25] <Andeh> Now it often tries to download the page when i click on the link. Seems to only happen with php files.
[04:25] <xtknight> Aqwis ah sorry dont know
[04:25] <Andeh> Anyone know whats going on?
[04:26] <xtknight> Jumbola lol Adept is the synaptic for kde
[04:26] <Aqwis> shows up in Networking and ifconfig etc but dhclient doesn't find any leaves
[04:26] <genii> robinlinth: Please, in the future text pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  would be preferable. for instance to do:   ls -l /var/log                in a konsole/terminal then cut and paste the results there.
[04:26] <ubotu> File cinema found in fortunes-fr
[04:26] <thriller> hi, anyone has experience on using beryl on ATI rv250 card?
[04:26] <Jumbola> xtknight:  hahh well i m using Gnome :S
[04:26] <JBond2> Any video clip manipulate program, other than kino?
[04:26] <robinlinth> genii, Okay, but that list is fine right?
[04:26] <bjohan> xtknight: yes, im not using a 386 computer so i want to be able to install packages which requires more such as acroread, and also optimized binaries if there are such for ubuntu :)
[04:26] <hidan> xtknight: file's uploading now... a few mins left.
[04:26] <xtknight> Jumbola ahaha
[04:26] <genii> robinlinth: The picture quality is such that no text on that shot is readable so it's moot
[04:26] <xtknight> Jumbola what??? synaptic then :P
[04:26] <Jumbola> xtknight:  well dude how can i add some third party repos.. in source file?
[04:27] <xtknight> bjohan you are using an amd64?
[04:27] <Jumbola> xtknight:  ya sorry get it.. what u are saying :)
[04:27] <genii> robinlinth: Yes, thats the list
[04:27] <zulfajuniadi> genii: i can read in his screenshot ok...
[04:27] <xtknight> jumbola oooh... goto Software Sources
[04:27] <dealc> How Do I add a Samba share that is not in my home directory?
[04:27] <genii> zulfajuniadi: Mine must be resizing
[04:27] <Andeh> Has anyone else had this problem? My firefox will often download php pages when i click on a link to them. Never happened before the update.
[04:27] <bjohan> xtknight: dont know really i wanted to go for i686 or something just to get acroread going :)
[04:27] <xtknight> bjohan i doubt it needs a new kernel
[04:27] <robinlinth> genii, In what are you viewing it? I'd zoom in if i were you.
[04:27] <Jubei> guys how do I stop a kernel module that's causing me problems from loading at boot?
[04:27] <zulfajuniadi> genii: zoom in firefox :)
[04:27] <xtknight> !blacklist | Jubei
[04:27] <ubotu> Jubei: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[04:27] <robinlinth> genii, It's a png.
[04:28] <Jubei> xtknight: thanks:D
[04:28] <xtknight> dealc edit samba config
[04:28] <dealc> How Do I add a Samba share that is not in my home directory?
[04:28] <bjohan> xtknight: no but the package manager refuses to install acroread because it thinks im using a giant 386 :) i want to tell it otherwise :D
[04:28] <dealc> xtknight: I tried but with no sucess. :(
[04:28] <xtknight> bjohan again i dont think so.  type "sudo apt-get install acroread" then what happens?
[04:28] <xtknight> dealc restart samba init.d service?
[04:29] <Jumbola> xtknight:  well Automatix is suitable for Edgy? can i use it?
[04:29] <xtknight> Jumbola no it's a bad idea
[04:29] <Andeh> So, nobody has this problem??
[04:29] <Jumbola> xtknight:  .. ok.!
[04:29] <xtknight> Jumbola just add some 3rd party repos that you need and  manually apt-get
[04:29] <|Tommy|> some dutch folks arround ?
[04:29] <Andeh> Must be me then. I didnt mess with the settings though.
[04:29] <xtknight> !nl | |Tommy|
[04:29] <ubotu> |Tommy|: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[04:29] <genii> robinlinth: At any rate, info that would be useful for giagnosis is missing. For example, how large the files are. Who owns them. This sort of deal. The command I gave earlier will recursively list out all the files under /var/log plus show exact sizes and owners. So it is more useful
[04:29] <hidan> xtknight: here you go! http://rapidshare.com/files/23976552/syslog.txt
[04:29] <odium> I need a proggie to edit and contribute entries to my LiveJournal.
[04:29] <|Tommy|> ty
[04:29] <robinlinth> gene__, Alright.
[04:29] <genii> diagnosis, not giagnosis
[04:29] <robinlinth> genii: Alright..
[04:29] <bjohan> xtknight: then it appears to work, but why does the gui-stuff not work? allthough i'm used to another distro and ubuntu confuses me a bit :)
[04:30] <genii> LOL
[04:30] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: does the php file have actual scripts in them, cause that would be cool!
[04:30] <xtknight> haha
[04:30] <bjohan> xtknight: but thanks anyway now i can read my datasheets!
[04:31] <xtknight> bjohan weird.  what happens with "sudo apt-get -f install"?
[04:31] <robinlinth> genii, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13520/
[04:31] <bjohan> xtknight: apt-get works without the -f option
[04:31] <genii> robinlinth: Looking
[04:32] <odium> anyone know an app for Controlling a livejournal?
[04:32] <xtknight> bjohan what happens with the exact cmd i typed
[04:32] <xtknight> ( nothing more ntohing less )
[04:32] <xtknight> nothing after 'instal'
[04:32] <bjohan> xtknight: but can i change the cpu-type som where so that i can get optimized packages? at home i use a source based distro so i just change a few flags in a file, but now i need to use the mouse and stuff :)
[04:32] <zulfajuniadi> odium: gnome-blog
[04:32] <hidan> xtknight: did you get the url ? ^___^
[04:32] <odium> thanks
[04:32] <xtknight> !find kernel | bjohan
[04:32] <ubotu> bjohan: Found: kernel-package, kernel-wedge, klogd, nfs-kernel-server, nvidia-kernel-common (and 73 others)
[04:32] <xtknight> hidan yeah one sec
[04:32] <bjohan> xtknight: sorry, did not read you there
[04:32] <bjohan> xtknight: before
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan: type "sudo apt-get -f install".  and what happens?
[04:33] <robinlinth> genii, What did you find?
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan: yes there are 686 and generic kernel packages.  i recommend generic, it autodetects.  386 is juts old
[04:33] <genii> robinlinth:  Well for instance "faillog" seems large
[04:33] <bjohan> xtknight: then it tells me about some old packages that i should remove
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan: maybe that's why the gui was getting confused
[04:33] <xtknight> bjohan i'd solve package problems first
[04:34] <bjohan> xtknight: wierd bug then :)
[04:34] <xtknight> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic
[04:34] <xtknight> for a generic kernel
[04:34] <xtknight> !info linux-image-generic
[04:34] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[04:34] <dooglus> xtknight: sorry, I lost my net connection for a while there.
[04:34] <bjohan> xtknight: "apt-get remove pkg1 pkg2" etc?
[04:34] <dooglus> xtknight: you were talking about window borders, and I'm not clear what you mean
[04:34] <xtknight> hidan looks like hard drive problems
[04:34] <NET||abuse> hi all,,, i have a hp nc6000 laptop, ther's a little sd card reader on the side of it, but wondering how i can use it,, anyone have any idea?
[04:34] <dooglus> xtknight: here are the borders I see: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/windows.png  note that gnome-terminal, xterm and xclock all have the same kind of border - they're all drawn by metacity
[04:34] <xtknight> bjohan uhhh i guess
[04:34] <robinlinth> genii, It's binary, i can't read it.,
[04:35] <kenthomson> HELP; When i go to beryl's official site and download a ton of themes from there, and than open the emerald theme manager and "import" the themes one by one, i get "error calling tar" for all the themes, and i can't get any of them installed. Can someone help?/tell me the right way to install it?
[04:35] <trev_> can anyone tell me how to use wget to retreive all files past a certain subdirector on a FTP server?
[04:35] <bjohan> xtknight: apt told me about autoremove :) well now i have to work
[04:35] <Jubei> xtknight: blacklist will just stop them from loading at boot time, right? not prevent them from loading alltogether :)
[04:35] <bjohan> xtknight: thanks again!
[04:35] <xtknight> autoremove removes depends too
[04:35] <trev_> *subdirectory
[04:35] <xtknight> unused automatically downloaded tihngs, rather
[04:35] <NET||abuse> i'm trying to see if it appears anywhere in media or floppy or what.. but i don't know.
[04:35] <genii> robinlinth: The idea here is: examone the dates. Look closer at ones which are being modified today. the second criteria is: How big is the log? How many times has it been rotated? (eg: how many somename.0.gz)
[04:35] <xtknight> Jubei right
[04:35] <xtknight> Jubei just modprobe later
[04:35] <BeniGZL> is there any israelian pepole here?
[04:35] <xtknight> jubei oh wait'
[04:35] <hidan> xtknight: yeah however, i don't seem to have any device called hdc2 or whatever that device seems to be...  also, when i googled for the issue, there was a possibility it was related to the ntfs tools i'd installed.
[04:35] <xtknight> Jubei sorry.  i think it blocks it for good.  im not 100% sure
[04:36] <robinlinth> genii, apport.log.7.gz is the max of apport.log
[04:36] <dealc> I have a problem with my Defalt Gnome login screen, It crashes everytime i restart my computer. What can I do to fix this?
[04:36] <xtknight> Jubei remoev it from blacklist when you need to modprobe? heh
[04:36] <kenthomson> Can someone please do help me?
[04:36] <robinlinth> genii, syslog.6.gz the max of syslog
[04:36] <xtknight> hidan error seems to be on sdb
[04:36] <Jubei> xtknight: that blacklist doesn't exist, I just create it right?
[04:36] <aj_> where do I find a personal security manager for ubuntu 5.1
[04:36] <xtknight> jubei yha
[04:36] <xtknight> ya
[04:36] <dealc> kenthomson: What's your question
[04:36] <wedgeV> when i use NetworkManager to setup a PPTP VPN my /etc/resolv.conf is empty
[04:37] <kenthomson> dealc, HELP; When i go to beryl's official site and download a ton of themes from there, and than open the emerald theme manager and "import" the themes one by one, i get "error calling tar" for all the themes, and i can't get any of them installed. Can someone help?/tell me the right way to install it?
[04:37] <NET||abuse> so anyone have a clue how to get at the sd card reader in my laptop?
[04:37] <xtknight> hidan, those are the msgs i'm concerned about
[04:37] <neozen> meep
[04:37] <hidan> xtknight: hmmm yeah... sdb. i do have some partitions called sda5, sad8, etc.
[04:37] <hidan> xtknight: but nothing under sdb
[04:37] <dealc> kenthomson: You try the defalt theme manager in Ubuntu?
[04:37] <aj_> ! psm
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <xtknight> hidan perhaps a controller problem?  i really have absoultely no idea.
[04:38] <kenthomson> dealc, you don't anything you are talking about, thanks for sounding courteus anyways ;)
[04:38] <aj_> ! personal security manager
[04:38] <genii> robinlinth: Exactly. So then it6 points us to the idea that whatever creates these logs makes many of them and that they are often being rotated. So then we like to look at the last part of the current log for that thing, perhaps something like:      tail apport.log   shows us the end of that one
[04:38] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: yes, that would be cool. I doubt it does, though. Almost certainly the php output.
[04:38] <Andeh> My question is, though, how do i tell it not to?
[04:38] <dealc> I have a problem with my Defalt Gnome login screen, It crashes everytime i restart my computer. What can I do to fix this?
[04:38] <hidan> xtknight: hmmmm i wonder if this is related to my printer. let me turn it off and see if it stops logging that error. 'cos i know that my printer has some memory card port.
[04:38] <xtknight> hidan i doubt it
[04:38] <xtknight> hidan it's sdb..harddrive related I/o hardwre errors
[04:39] <xtknight> ohh
[04:39] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: ON every PAGE?
[04:39] <xtknight> hidan it may be.  i thought you meant the printer itself.
[04:39] <robinlinth> genii, The first apport.log is empty. The second has all kinds of complaints about Compiz.
[04:39] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: oops...caps
[04:39] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: No. php pages, and some of them.
[04:39] <kenthomson> dealc, Did you recently add any program in Start>Preferences>Session, Autostart program? Than remove it. Else, go to System>Administration>Login Screen and select another one and see if problem persists
[04:39] <hidan> xtknight: well viola the errors stopped. O_o;; oh that's 'cos somehow, that "memory slot" shows up as scsi device even in windows.
[04:39] <genii> robinlinth: This is all sniffing for clues as to what program has some issue that is not obvious since it likely appears to operate fine but is giving some underlying errors which are using a lot of system resources to write about
[04:39] <aj_> Can anyone help me
[04:40] <genii> robinlinth: So, then, see, we are getting ideas now about what is bogging down the entire deal
[04:40] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: most prolly its the webserver, not your firefox. try mnohd.dyndns.org, see if outputs a php file...
[04:40] <robinlinth> genii, But, the problem was there even before I installed Compiz.
[04:40] <hidan> xtknight: so, i assume that since there's no memory card inserted, ubuntu's trying to access a non-existent "hard disk".
[04:40] <Andeh> Ok. Ill try. What a stupid server for sending the file as a download :D
[04:41] <xtknight> hiden ya i guess
[04:41] <zulfajuniadi> Andeh: it happens if the php module in apache is broken :D
[04:41] <xtknight> hidan maybe automount/hal problem
[04:41] <genii> robinlinth: I hate to repeat, but: Please note how many logs get generated. Please note that any of them could be indicating this type of issue I speak of.
[04:41] <wo0lverine> salut
[04:41] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: well, clicking it again gets it to open normally...
[04:41] <hidan> xtknight: huh? what do you mean by hal? :P
[04:41] <Andeh> Ok its not firefox thats causing it
[04:41] <xtknight> !fr | wo0lverine
[04:41] <ubotu> wo0lverine: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:41] <genii> robinlinth: The most suspect ones I have just shown you how to identify and examine for clues
[04:42] <xtknight> hidan hardware abstract layer, having to do with the kerenl
[04:42] <Andeh> zulfajuniadi: thanks
[04:42] <robinlinth> genii, Xorg.20.log.old is the maximum of Xorg.log
[04:42] <hidan> xtknight: ... .... sorry, let me look that up.
[04:42] <dwright> checking in...is this thing on?
[04:42] <aj_> I found the personal security manager, but I am not able to open an rpm file
[04:43] <neozen> dwright: I believe so ;)
[04:43] <genii> robinlinth: The "tail" command I showed you only shows the last few lines of the file. To get a real idea of the size of these things and what they contain, open one up in a text editor
[04:43] <xtknight> hidan you might have to configure automuont to ignore sdb.  not sure, just a clue
[04:43] <xtknight> automount*
[04:43] <atamyrat> hi, i get following error when i try to run anything uses opengl.
[04:43] <StoneNote> robinlinth, do you have a NetVista M42?
[04:44] <dooglus> xtknight: sorry, I got booted again.  did you reply?
[04:44] <aj_> I am sorry if i am asking dumb questions, but I am a new ubuntu user trying to get away from windows
[04:44] <atamyrat> /usr/games/armagetron.real: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:44] <robinlinth> StoneNote, no, and i don't know what that is.
[04:44] <xtknight> dooglus dont think so.  sorry not sure.  u were the one with the gnome problems?  metaciry..xterm
[04:44] <xtknight> atamyrat sudo apt-get install libgl1
[04:44] <xtknight> !find libgl
[04:44] <ubotu> Found: freeglut3, freeglut3-dev, gle-doc, libgl1-mesa-dev, libgl1-mesa-dri (and 76 others)
[04:44] <rickjones> guys, i have a needy question, whats the command to rename a file ? i gotta return to a bak file and the command escapes me .
[04:44] <neozen> aj_: no worries
[04:44] <hidan> xtknight: geez, okay that's another problem solved lol... =P
[04:44] <xtknight> i've gotta run.  later
[04:44] <dooglus> xtknight: you were telling me about 'pretty' borders and 'plain' ones, whereas they all look the same to me: http://dooglus.rincevent.net/random/windows.png ;  what is a 'pretty' border?
[04:44] <hidan> xtknight: okay see you later! =)
[04:45] <xtknight> dooglus sorry.  pretty i mean like with a skinned theme
[04:45] <xtknight> xterm afaik doesnt have that
[04:45] <Aaronformchina> Should I install XGL before Compiz on Dapper? Where I can find a Howto? Thanks.
[04:45] <aj_> neozen can you help me I have been having problems with finding a psm personal security manager to install with ubuntu
[04:45] <dejand> re
[04:45] <Slick_> hey guys, I'm new to ubuntu and I'm trying to use a proxy server to access the internet, how do I set that up?
[04:45] <dejand> why cant i export DISPLAY on my fresh install ubuntu
[04:45] <dejand> ?
[04:46] <genii> robinlinth: Note that logs which are large, have been rotated often and have been updated todaymust number at least 20:
[04:46] <dwright> dejand...what error are you gettting?
[04:46] <dooglus> dejand: you can set whatever you want to set
[04:46] <StoneNote> robinlinth, I found a "Sparodically slow system clock" bug which suggests "Boot with the noapic kernel option" as a workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/71023
[04:46] <dooglus> dejand: ubuntu's X server doesn't listen for incoming TCP connections though, if that's what you're asking
[04:46] <jimmy20013> How do I get dual heads to work in Ubuntu?
[04:46] <hectorUbu> hello, just wondering if anyone here know how to activate the Bluetooth on a Acer Aspire 5570 laptop?
[04:46] <robinlinth> StoneNote, I am on a VIA computer, so no.
[04:46] <dooglus> jimmy20013: Zaphod, is that you?
[04:46] <neozen> aj_: with rpm's you have 2 options: 1) if you just want the files out of the thing, open it with Xarchiver, if you want to Install that RPM (the way you would with a debian package from the repositories, 2) convert it with alien
[04:47] <dwright> jimmy...what type of displays ?
[04:47] <neozen> !alien|asj_
[04:47] <ubotu> asj_: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:47] <dwright> both the same resolution or different?
[04:47] <genii> StoneNote: He has more a case of overall slowdown that keeps encroaching until the machine is frustrating to use then he reinstalls
[04:47] <jimmy20013> dooglus:No
[04:47] <robinlinth> genii, You got it.
[04:47] <suryan> hi
[04:47] <StoneNote> gene__, yes, I read his posts. thanks for the recap
[04:47] <jimmy20013> dwright: Onboard video and AGP card for projector
[04:47] <dooglus> jimmy20013: dual heads: http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/SBHarvest/Harvest00/ZaphodPlaysHitchhikers.gif
[04:48] <neozen> aj_: what is a personal security manager?
[04:48] <StoneNote> genii, , yes, I read his posts. thanks for the recap
[04:48] <aj_> neozen convert it to what
[04:48] <jimmy20013> dooglus: lol
[04:48] <dejand> cannon open display: ip:0
[04:48] <dejand> this is what i get
[04:49] <aj_> mozzila says I need it too login to yahoo and other sites
[04:49] <jimmy20013> dwright: Same resolutions for both
[04:49] <neozen> aj_: with alien you can convert RPM packages (which are usually for redhat-based distros) to .deb packages which are used in debian... and all ubuntu-based distros
[04:49] <robinlinth> genii, StoneNote: Please, join #solveslowdown so we can speak without all the messages scrolling across.
[04:49] <neozen> aj_: but that seems like a big waste of time if you are just looking for a specific kind of program
[04:49] <dwright> ATI...NVIDIA?
[04:49] <genii> robinlinth I have no interest currently in going there
[04:49] <neozen> aj_: what is this psm supposed to do?
[04:50] <neozen> aj_: remember passwords and the like?
[04:50] <robinlinth> genii, StoneNote is there too. C'mon, my Xchat client removes messages by the second so i'll keep missing em if you don't join that channel.
[04:50] <kishore> ubotu, ogle
[04:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ogle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <dwright> jimmy20013:ATI? NVIDIA?
[04:50] <jimmy20013> dwright: the AGP card is  S3 Inc. Savage 4 (rev 02) with single head and I want to use that for the projector
[04:50] <dejand> dwright and dooglus  cannot open display (taking about LAN, but this box isnt on dhcp so it doesnt have its hostname)
[04:50] <kishore> ubotu,Ogle
[04:50] <dejand> so i put, export DISPLAY="192....:0"
[04:50] <kishore> ubotu,Ogle
[04:50] <dejand> and run e.g. xeyes
[04:50] <dejand> and get cannon open display
[04:50] <dwright> dejand...try typing xhost + at a terminal prompt
[04:51] <crdlb> !info ogle | kishore
[04:51] <ubotu> kishore: ogle: DVD player with support for DVD menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-5 (edgy), package size 240 kB, installed size 804 kB
[04:51] <aj_> neozen I am not sure I try to login to yahoo and firefox just closes, so I tried a differant browser, mozzila and it gave me the psm message then it closed too
[04:51] <suryan> Could not upgrade the system!
[04:51] <suryan> Fix broken packages first.
[04:51] <genii> robinlinth I've already given you enough of a starting point to begin deducing what is the issue. I'm not going to go thru your logs 1 by 1 and try to decide what is the exact cause. You can do that :)
[04:51] <suryan> means what
[04:51] <robinlinth> genii, Alright.
[04:51] <crdlb> suryan, run: sudo apt-get -f install
[04:51] <jimmy20013> dwright: What do you suggest?
[04:52] <dejand> dwright same
[04:52] <dooglus> dejand: are you trying to display on the ubuntu machine's display?
[04:52] <aj_> neozen this is a 4 day old install of ubuntu 5.1 am just trying to get my feet wet with linux
[04:52] <dejand> nop
[04:52] <dejand> ups
[04:52] <dwright> jimmy20013:I'm not sure I follow..you have a single head card?
[04:53] <sogen> can someone help me?
[04:53] <aj_> neozen and it is making my head work, have been windows dependant for too long
[04:53] <SlimeyPete> sogen: don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[04:53] <dwright> dejand: just for clarity...start over...logout of remote session. open new terminal window...type xhost + then login to remote
[04:53] <jimmy20013> dwright: Yeah because my dual head is not detected. So I am trying to use onboard head and a AGP card with single head. Is that not possible?
[04:53] <cdavis> what command can I use to get a list of installed packages?
[04:53] <dwright> dejand: then export your display and try to launch app
[04:53] <crdlb> cdavis, dpkg -l
[04:53] <cdavis> crdlb, Thanks
[04:54] <sogen> SlimeyPete: my cuputer is stoping
[04:54] <sogen> SlimeyPete: computer*
[04:54] <dwright> jimmy20013....typically, once you install a card in AGP slot, the onboard video is disabled
[04:54] <SlimeyPete> sogen: how do you mean? Is it freezing, or does it give you an error message? What are you trying to make it do?
[04:54] <neozen> aj_: I still don't know what you're looking for when you say psm..... I've never had that behavior in firefox
[04:54] <jimmy20013> dwright:Well I guess then I have to buy a new dual head
[04:54] <batusays> hi
[04:54] <sogen> SlimeyPete: freezing
[04:55] <batusays> who can help me with samba
[04:55] <dejand> okeoj
[04:55] <SlimeyPete> sogen: when does it freeze?
[04:55] <aj_> neozen mozzila gave me the psm message, firefox just closed
[04:55] <dejand> wait please.
[04:55] <dejand> br
[04:55] <dejand> b
[04:55] <jimmy20013> batusays: What do you need?
[04:55] <dwright> anyone else know of a system where onboard will work with AGP card installed?
[04:55] <sogen> SlimeyPete: 5-20 mins after start
[04:55] <sogen> SlimeyPete: here is some log http://wklej.org/id/c1039edb69
[04:55] <dooglus> dwright: has this 'xhost +' ever worked for you in ubuntu?
[04:56] <dwright> dooglus: Yes I use it all the time
[04:56] <bezibaerchen> it has for me too
[04:56] <aj_> neozen dang if you are not sure I guess I have my research cut out for me, better get a bottle of asprin
[04:56] <user_> hi
[04:56] <dooglus> dwright: ok
[04:56] <SlimeyPete> sogen: do you have Windows installed? Does it do the same thing in Windows?
[04:56] <user_> i have 1 question if anyone can help
[04:56] <bezibaerchen> had to use it for installing cxlinux e.g.
[04:56] <neozen> aj_: how much ram do you have?
[04:56] <kbrosnan> aj_: close firefox and mozilla, rename your ~/.mozilla folder and restart firefox, does it crash?
[04:56] <jimmy20013> dwright: What can be the reason that my dual agp card is not being detected? It worked in my other machine
[04:57] <neozen> aj_: firefox can be a hungry beastie
[04:57] <bezibaerchen> neozen: it IS :-)
[04:57] <sogen> SlimeyPete: i do not have windows atm but it didnt hengs on windows
[04:57] <dooglus> user_: just ask
[04:57] <user_> i installed ubuntu from an alternate cd  version 6.10 and did the OEM install
[04:57] <rambo3> !twinview
[04:57] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:57] <aj_> neozen I have a 233 celeron mmx w/128 mb
[04:57] <user_> now my question
[04:57] <user_> what's the username
[04:57] <dooglus> user_: you should write thrillers.  that suspense is killing me
[04:57] <aj_> neozen old dell laptop
[04:57] <user_> i put a password.. but not an username
[04:57] <jimmy20013> thanks rambo3
[04:57] <neozen> aj_: yeah... you're right at the bottom of the firefox bracket
[04:58] <dejand> re
[04:58] <neozen> aj_: look into dillo
[04:58] <dejand> (16:57) dejand@ran:~$ xhost +
[04:58] <dejand> xhost:  unable to open display ""
[04:58] <pavan>  i had a Problem with GDM
[04:58] <neozen> aj_: its in the repositories.... and might be more your speed
[04:58] <neozen> !dillo
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dillo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <pavan> at Login screen it gives a error messege that No servers defined in configuration file and XCMP is disabled. GDM started single server for you
[04:58] <pavan>  i had a Problem with GDM
[04:58] <dejand> same error
[04:58] <dwright> xhost + needs to be run on your local machine
[04:58] <kenthomson> !dilo
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <dwright> not remote session
[04:58] <dejand> when i want to stary xeyes
[04:58] <dejand> wait
[04:58] <neozen> aj_: lightweight web  browser
[04:58] <pavan> at Login screen it gives a error messege that No servers defined in configuration file and XCMP is disabled. GDM started single server for you
[04:58] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[04:58] <dejand> access control disabled, clients can connect from any host
[04:58] <dwright> good
[04:59] <suryan> how to fix the packages
[04:59] <SlimeyPete> sogen: it might be that the linux kernel doesn't fully support your hardware. Google for your motherboard / graphics card / sound card etc and check whether there are any forum posts saying that others are having trouble
[04:59] <aj_> neozen I had win xp on here running firefox just fine, does that matter?
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: did you try 'root' as the username?
[04:59] <user_> yes
[04:59] <dwright> now login to remote console and export display
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: and 'ubuntu'?
[04:59] <user_> and the password.. still didn't work
[04:59] <ferronica> New GNOME 2.18 released how to install it???
[04:59] <sogen> SlimeyPete: okie dokie
[04:59] <dejand> so what do i do now
[04:59] <dejand> ?
[04:59] <user_> ubuntu yes.. v 6.10 from alternate cd
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: (I'm guessing; I've not done an OEM install)
[04:59] <kbrosnan> aj_: no that does not matter
[04:59] <dwright> dejand: login into remote and export display
[04:59] <albertolempira> hey guys how can i burn *.wma songs with GnomeBaker? thx
[04:59] <kbrosnan> aj_: close firefox and mozilla, rename your ~/.mozilla folder and restart firefox, does it crash?
[04:59] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[04:59] <dooglus> user_: can you boot into 'rescue mode' or some such and look at /etc/passwd?
[05:00] <dooglus> user_: use 'adduser' to make a user account if there isn't one
[05:00] <neozen> aj_: well.... yes actually.... take a look @ the suggestion from kbrosnan: aj_: close firefox and mozilla, rename your ~/.mozilla folder and restart firefox, does it crash?
[05:00] <user_> i guess i could do that
[05:00] <suryan> how to fix the broken packages in the system
[05:00] <NET||abuse> ANyone have a hp nc6000 laptop and know if the sdcard reader can be used?? I have an sd card with stuff on it i need to get at :)
[05:00] <dooglus> user_: not nice, I know, but may help
[05:00] <Bluedog> ferronica: wait for feisty :)
[05:00] <Bluedog> it has gnome 2.18
[05:00] <neozen> aj_: he'd probably be more help then me
[05:00] <dejand> Error: Can't open display: 192.168.24.187:0
[05:00] <user_> how do i get there..
[05:00] <dooglus> dejand: can you ping it?
[05:00] <kenthomson> HELP; What version of Ubuntu do i need if i have a core 2 duo (1.8GHZ)? Please help
[05:00] <dejand> yes
[05:00] <user_> like in win was f8 in ubuntu ??
[05:00] <dwright> export DISPLAY=192.168.24.187:0.0
[05:00] <dejand> 64 bytes from 192.168.24.187: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.179 ms
[05:00] <dooglus> dejand: ubuntu's X server doesn't accept incoming connections
[05:01] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[05:01] <ferronica> Bluedog: i am using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Dapper Drake
[05:01] <dooglus> dejand: so you won't be able to use its display by exporting DISPLAY=...
[05:01] <dejand> same error but 0.0 at the end
[05:01] <neozen> kenthomson: the standard 386 kernel should detect your multi-cores
[05:01] <ferronica> Bluedog: Is there any problem??
[05:01] <aj_> kbrosan I tried to uninstall firefox last night and it wouldnt let me
[05:01] <dejand> how do i do that then?
[05:01] <aj_> neozen thanks
[05:01] <dwright> dooglus: I use incoming connections all the time
[05:01] <user_> how do i get in rescuemode in ubuntu?
[05:01] <dooglus> dejand: use ssh to connect to the remote machine with display forwarding
[05:02] <suryan> how to fix the broken packages in synaptic
[05:02] <dejand> -X ?
[05:02] <albertolempira> hey guys how can i burn *.wma songs with GnomeBaker? thx
[05:02] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[05:02] <user_> suryan  delete and then download new packets
[05:02] <dyrne> user_: hit esc when computer first boots
[05:02] <kenthomson> neozen, are you sure? Should i get the generic-kernel, tell me the 64-bit people need seperate kernel, than why don't I? Will i loose some of my potential performance?
[05:02] <neozen> ferronica: ::hoists beer:: all hail dapper!
[05:02] <aj_> kbrosnan I tried to uninstall firefox last night and it wouldnt let me
[05:02] <dooglus> dejand: if you 'ssh -Y' onto the remote host, DISPLAY will be set for you
[05:02] <kbrosnan> aj_: don't reinstall, in your home folder there is a hidden folder called .mozilla, i need you to find it and rename it while firefox is closed
[05:02] <user_> ok thx
[05:02] <user_> going to try that
[05:02] <neozen> kenthomson: no
[05:02] <waseidel> hi
[05:02] <dejand> works
[05:02] <dejand> thanks
[05:02] <suryan> i have installed live cd
[05:02] <neozen> kenthomson: running 64 bit kernel HUGE pain
[05:02] <Morfar2_> When I try to install Nvidia drivers it says I need libc development package. Wtf is that? And how do I get it?
[05:03] <dejand> biiig thanks
[05:03] <dealc> How do I get my nVidia card to do s-video out in 6.10?
[05:03] <dooglus> dwright: did you have to enable listening in the X server config?  or do you use ssh -Y?
[05:03] <ferronica> neozen: what you mean? :(
[05:03] <aj_> kbrosnan give me a sec
[05:03] <waseidel> plz help me
[05:03] <suryan>  i have installed live cd
[05:03] <dwright> dooglus I just use xhost +
[05:03] <dwright> but I had forgotten about the -Y
[05:03] <dooglus> dwright: what's DISPLAY set to on the remote machine?
[05:03] <waseidel> who can help me?
[05:03] <kenthomson> neozen, you are not sure?
[05:03] <neozen> kenthomson: just get the 386 version and it will install the proper SMP (simple multi-processor) kernel
[05:03] <dealc> Morfar2: Its in synaptic.
[05:03] <dwright> dooglus: export DISPLAY=x.x.x.:0.0
[05:03] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[05:04] <dealc> How do I get my nVidia card to do s-video out in 6.10?
[05:04] <dwright> -Y is easier :)
[05:04] <dwright> dejand: did the -Y work for you?
[05:04] <kenthomson> neozen, and that means i will be able to use all my processor's performance without loosing anything?
[05:04] <dooglus> dwright: it seems to have done, yes
[05:04] <albertolempira> hey guys how can i burn *.wma songs with GnomeBaker?
[05:04] <dooglus> dwright: exporting DISPLAY to be x.x.x.x shouldn't work
[05:04] <neozen> kenthomson: you don't want the amd64 kernel.... its only for certain finicky amd chipsets
[05:04] <neozen> kenthomson: yes... you will get the right performance
[05:05] <dwright> dooglus: I use it all the time but I connect to Solaris
[05:05] <dooglus> dwright: that's different.  he was wanting to connect to ubuntu.
[05:05] <dyrne> albertolempira: why, in gods name would you want wma?
[05:05] <dwright> dooglus: right I wasn't thinking
[05:05] <neozen> kenthomson: after you install do an update & upgrade, and uname -r (on the terminal) should have SMP in the name
[05:06] <albertolempira> dyrne: 'cause i got some old songs from my windows partition that i ripped a time ago in wma format
[05:06] <rambo3> or degeneric
[05:06] <neozen> kenthomson: that should give you peace of mind
[05:07] <kenthomson> neozen, and by that we mean that i can simply pop-in a ubuntu live cd and carry on as usual, and the generic-kernel would utilise the full potential of my PC?
[05:07] <albertolempira> dyrne: maybe i didn't write the question right... i got some wma's songs that i want to burn into an audio cd
[05:08] <neozen> kenthomson: thats the experience my friends with core duo's have seen
[05:08] <Morfar2_> dealc: Thanks, found it
[05:08] <kenthomson> neozen, thank you, you have been really helpful.
[05:08] <neozen> kenthomson: but a livecd won't give you the speed a full install would
[05:08] <rambo3> !info nautilus-script-audio-convert
[05:08] <ubotu> nautilus-script-audio-convert: A nautilus audio converter script. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB
[05:08] <neozen> kenthomson: no problem
[05:09] <aj_> kbrosnan no it actually created another .mozzila folder, I tried it twice
[05:09] <dyrne> albertolempira: id consider converting them to wav
[05:09] <waseidel> HELP!!!
[05:10] <kbrosnan> aj_: it should create another .mozilla folder when you start firefox
[05:10] <waseidel> how I do with an static IP
[05:10] <albertolempira> dyrne: and how can i do that? which app should i use?
[05:10] <waseidel> I can't connect to internet
[05:10] <dyrne> albertolempira: manually .. lemme check forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37793
[05:10] <neozen> waseidel: man interfacess
[05:10] <aj_> kborsnan I like that that is pretty cool
[05:10] <waseidel> ok grax
[05:11] <jimmy20013> drwright: Ok, I got my dual head card to work and both heads are working. Now do I stretch the desktop between the two screens?
[05:11] <waseidel> tnkz
[05:11] <neozen> waseidel: you'll need to have the numbers for you dns servers handy... just as you would under windows
[05:11] <dyrne> albertolempira: if youre going to burn an audio cd dont convert em to wma -->wav-->mp3-->wav just wav
[05:11] <kbrosnan> aj_: did firefox get to yahoo without crashing?
[05:11] <neozen> waseidel: you'll also need the numbers for your gateway and your netmask
[05:12] <albertolempira> dyrne: sure!...thanks!
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[05:12] <waseidel> [neozen]  the problen it's i do ping to ny gateway and netmask and they answer but my dns not
[05:12] <aj_> kbrosnan it goes to yahoo, but when I try to login it crashes
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[05:12] <neozen> !op>hiush
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[05:12] <neozen> !ops
[05:12] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, or mneptok
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[05:12] <elkbuntu> i win
[05:13] <kbrosnan> aj_: still after making a new profile
[05:13] <neozen> danke ops
[05:13] <genii> !ops save us in #ubuntu from hiush
[05:13] <Hobbsee> that you do.  damn chanserv
[05:13] <aj_> kbrosnan it goes to yahoo, only crashes when I try to login
[05:13] <pokingfun> ...
[05:13] <ferronica> hey what happening in channel?
[05:13] <ferronica> Is there any bot???
[05:13] <neozen> ferronica: some moron just got punted
[05:13] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:13] <tyoung> Anybody have a recommendation on what nvidia chipset is the 'best' to pick for a new ubuntu system?
[05:14] <crimsun> competition between the gals!
[05:14] <neozen> !best
[05:14] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:14] <ferronica> neozen: hey is there any channel where i can discuss about Theme or to design my ubuntu? :)
[05:14] <chuckhazard> ok so I had a windows share mounted with smbclient.  Then I hibernated.
[05:14] <chuckhazard> Now the mount directory /media is inaccessible.  ls /media/mountpoint gives error
[05:14] <chuckhazard> "input/output error".
[05:14] <aj_> kbrosnan you are a god
[05:14] <neozen> ferronica: as in ...customize the look?
[05:14] <kbrosnan> aj_: it works now with the new .mozilla?
[05:14] <tyoung> ubotu: good point.
[05:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about good point. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <aj_> kbrosnan why was that happening
[05:15] <ferronica> neozen: yeah look i get bored with one look
[05:15] <neozen> ferronica: you'll probably find details on gnome-look.org
[05:15] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:15] <neozen> ferronica: they've got a metric ton of themes
[05:15] <ferronica> neozen: what theme do you use??/
[05:15] <rellik> is there a better way of saving a processes PID to a file than ps .. | awk ... > file ?
[05:16] <kbrosnan> aj_: the most likely reason is a confilicting problem with the free flash plugin and the adobe flash plugin. Having both makes firefox very unstable
[05:16] <aj_> kbrosnan it worked with firefox
[05:16] <neozen> ferronica: I'm a fan of darker styled themes (ie.. lighttext on black)
[05:16] <tyoung> Better question: Is Ubuntu more stable under nforce4, 570 or 590 chipsets, or does it make no difference?
[05:16] <chuckhazard> how can I correct "ls: /media/mountpoint: input/output error" ?
[05:16] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:16] <jbernhardt> hey, it won't let me change my screen resolution
[05:16] <jbernhardt> does anyone know how to
[05:17] <neozen> ferronica: I've been using neutronium for what seems like forever
[05:17] <kbrosnan> aj_: if you need to recover some of the data in your old profile http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile is a very helpful article
[05:17] <aj_> kbrosnan I didnt really want the mozzila browser I just wanted to try an alternate browser to see if I got the same result
[05:17] <neozen> ferronica: http://neozen.no-ip.info/ss.png
[05:17] <ferronica> neozen: okay
[05:17] <rambo3> aj_ opera
[05:17] <dyrne> rellik: well depending on what youre doing echo $$ will give the pid
[05:17] <jbernhardt> Kazehakase
[05:17] <tyoung> jbernhardt: You can always edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file if the xrandr isn't working.
[05:18] <aj_> kbrosnan nah I just installed 4 days ago havent really done anything yet
[05:18] <neozen> ferronica: there's two main components to a 'look' on a linux gui
[05:18] <aj_> ranmbo3 have heard of opera never really used it yet
[05:18] <ferronica> neozen: what???
[05:19] <aj_> rambo3 what is the benifits of opera
[05:19] <rambo3> aj_ try it , its realy good browser and lighter then ff
[05:19] <neozen> ferronica: the first (on ubuntu and xubuntu) is the window manager theme this determines what window borders look like, and then there's the gtk theme... that determines background of windows, foreground color, and all other stuff)
[05:19] <LjL> and proprietary.
[05:20] <neozen> ferronica: if you're using ubuntu's original theme manager, you want themes for metacity
[05:20] <aj_> kbrosnan thanx for all your help I was getting pretty frustrated with that problem
[05:20] <neozen> ferronica: that clear things up a bit?
[05:20] <Mnemonica> Mmmk. Would this be the correct channel to ask about partitioning a hard-drive so that I can load ubuntu onto a dell machine that is currently running vista? <-- no idea what he's doing
[05:21] <ferronica> neozen: i am using THEME manager included in ubuntu 6.
[05:21] <dyrne> aj_: and Norwegian *shudders*
[05:21] <ferronica> neozen: 6.06 LTS Dapper
[05:21] <aj_> rambo3 I will check it out tonight, I have to go to work and help 90 yr old women get on the internet
[05:21] <neozen> ferronica: ::nods:: take a look on gnome-look.org ... it should provide what you seek
[05:21] <odium> What comes after Dapper?
[05:22] <neozen> !edgy
[05:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[05:22] <rambo3> so she can tell people to get of her lawn on internet ?
[05:22] <neozen> odium: edgy
[05:22] <aj_> rambo3 my computer even though it is ancient runs ff pretty smooth
[05:22] <hectorUbu> hello, just wondering if anyone here know how to activate the Bluetooth on a Acer Aspire 5570 laptop?
[05:22] <chuckhazard> so basically I think hibernation screws up existing samba mounts
[05:22] <neozen> chuckhazard: among other things
[05:22] <chuckhazard> but I don't want to have to unmount everything before hibernating
[05:22] <aj_> dyrne what is norwegian
[05:22] <rambo3> opera
[05:23] <neozen> chuckhazard: you should be able to modify your hibernation scripts to do this automatically
[05:23] <pokingfun> is opera still alive?
[05:23] <chuckhazard> neozen: just what i was about to ask.  where are they?
[05:23] <neozen> chuckhazard: I think they're in /etc/acpi-support
[05:23] <chuckhazard> neozen: cool thanks
[05:23] <neozen> chuckhazard: let me check
[05:23] <dyrne> aj_: opera is a nice alterative but i prefer open projects.  theyve been a good influence on browsers though i guess
[05:23] <Mnemonica> I repeat... Mmmk. Would this be the correct channel to ask about partitioning a hard-drive so that I can load ubuntu onto a dell machine that is currently running vista? <-- no idea what he's doing
[05:24] <neozen> chuckhazard: correction /etc/acpi on my system (xubuntu dapper.. ymmv)
[05:24] <vnt87> hi all, first time here
[05:24] <neozen> vnt87: welcome
[05:24] <coolness9> Mnemonica, you ca download Ubuntu and burn the image to a CD. Start it up
[05:24] <neozen> vnt87: you've got questions?
[05:24] <aj_> dyrne yea that is why I am going to linux, have been microsoft dependant for too many years,
[05:24] <vnt87> yep
[05:24] <chuckhazard> neozen: super thanks
[05:24] <vnt87> just wondering if X-Chat can handle the irc protocol
[05:25] <neozen> aj_: well.. welcome to the fold mate
[05:25] <vnt87> doesn't look like it does here
[05:25] <coolness9> and follow the instructions. You can allocate harddrive space to Ubunto and dual-boot
[05:25] <Mnemonica> I've already got the burned cd, I'd like to be able to dual boot vista and ubuntu, or at least go back and forth between the two.
[05:25] <coolness9> becareful not to delete your harddrive partition though
[05:25] <neozen> chuckhazard: hibernation is iffy on a lot of systems (mine included) ... I just don't hibernate
[05:25] <neozen> chuckhazard: so I couldn't tell you whether modifying those scripts will do what you want
[05:25] <aj_> well I just want to thank you all, Neozen, kbrosnan, rambo3, and dyrne for all of the advise and help
[05:26] <neozen> aj_: you are welcome
[05:26] <coolness9> Menonica, it will give you the option to create and resize your existing partition. I don't know enough about it to really help thoguh, sorry.
[05:26] <neozen> aj_: community support is what linux is all about (unless you have the mega-bucks to shell out to redhat)
[05:27] <chuckhazard> neozen: its a good place to start though
[05:27] <aj_> I am sure i will be back in here bothering you all again
[05:27] <coolness9> i just reformatted my computer and installed windows. I created a partition about 75% of my HD, and then installed Ubunto on the other 25%
[05:27] <neozen> chuckhazard: yeah
[05:27] <Mnemonica> My problem is that I don't know what any of this means...
[05:27] <neozen> chuckhazard: started messing around with the acpi stuff when I was trying to get the next, previous, play, etc buttons to work on my keyboard
[05:27] <aj_> Neozendefinately dont have megabucks remember 233 mmx/128mb
[05:28] <baggy1> i loose device files after reboot...  i.e., /dev/ttyS0, /dev/ttyS1, etc  I recreate them via MAKEDEV, but is there away to do this automatically so I don't have to after reboots?
[05:28] <rambo3> I am just saying , opera is closest when it comes to css /html standard
[05:28] <neozen> aj_: yeah... I remember...
[05:28] <Mnemonica> What does partitioning do? Will it affect my windows os? that sort of thing.
[05:28] <neozen> aj_: how the heck did you have firefox working on the old girl?
[05:28] <aj_> neozen I have a nicer machine too but am using this to learn on first
[05:28] <neozen> aj_: ahhh
[05:28] <baktaah> I need a PowerPoint and Word but for linux (Word should have swedish correction and a synonymous list)
[05:28] <quaal> does anyone know of any audio applications for linux? simillar to cubase or reason, even fruityloops, etc?
[05:29] <quaal> something i could use with vst instruments
[05:29] <coolness9> you should just boot up Ubuntu using your CD, and it will give you the option to resize your partition. A partition is an allocated disk space on your harddrive. you can have many partitions with many OS's installed on it.
[05:29] <quaal> and a midi controller
[05:29] <aj_> I am pretty good a tweaking windows, just new to linnux
[05:29] <neozen> baktaah: openoffice.org should set you up
[05:29] <LjL> baktaah: err, you noticed there's OpenOffice installed by default?
[05:29] <coolness9> Usually computers come with 1 or 2 Partitions.
[05:29] <rambo3> baktaah, ooo and install spellcheck ,
[05:29] <baktaah> spellcheck to open office?
[05:29] <aj_> neozen everyone told me I would never get win xp on here
[05:29] <neozen> aj_: don't worry... you'll be up to speed in a few weeks if you keep using it
[05:30] <coolness9> using the ubuntu CD, you should be able to resize your existing partition without effecting your windows partition. I never tried it though
[05:30] <LjL> baktaah: also installed by default. thesaurus (synonyms) not sure, though
[05:30] <neozen> coolness9: I just had success doing it under knoppix 5.1.1
[05:30] <aj_> neozen definately not a quitter
[05:30] <LjL> baktaah: no, i'm afraid thesaurus isn't available for swedish - though spell checking certainly is
[05:30] <Mnemonica> I wouldn't be so picky about it except for the fact that I just got a new computer and it's the only thing holding all of my music and word docs and such.
[05:30] <aj_> neozen anything to help open source
[05:30] <neozen> coolness9: you need to tell it to leave your swap partition alone if it exists
[05:31] <Mnemonica> And I want to fool around with linux, but I don't want to screw anything up.
[05:31] <aj_> neozen always hated the game monopoly
[05:31] <coolness9> thanks Neozzen, but I was talking to Mnemica
[05:31] <neozen> coolness9: qtparted (using ntfsresize) worked like a champ
[05:31] <baktaah> LjL thanks man.
[05:31] <neozen> coolness9: ahhhhh... sorry
[05:31] <baktaah> LjL no hard feeling for yesterday huh?
[05:31] <coolness9> np
[05:31] <baktaah> from*
[05:31] <coolness9> Mnemonica, you should be safe :)
[05:31] <aj_> Everyone have a great day
[05:32] <coolness9> just don't delete the exisiting partition. it will give you that option in the Ubuntu install
[05:33] <Mnemonica> alright... I'll give it a whirl then. Hopefully I'll be back on in a few minutes. - One last question though, if I need to remove ubuntu for any reason, what do I have to do? delete the partition that ubuntu is installed on? Or just get rid of the os?
[05:34] <matt_> nick Journeyman
[05:34] <matt_> erm
[05:34] <Journeyman> when I try to burn an .iso file I get ..."is not a valid disk image"
[05:34] <SlimeyPete> Mnemonica: remove the partition, then do an fdisk /mbr under windows and resize your windows partition to fill the space. But hopefully you won't have to do that :)
[05:34] <Journeyman> yet the image burns just fine on windows with nero
[05:34] <compilerwriter> all4n you still around?
[05:35] <Mnemonica> ^_^ Hopefully not. Alright, thanks peoples.
[05:35] <baktaah> Ehm
[05:35] <baktaah> does anyone know what the swedish packets for Open office is called?
[05:35] <Starshooot> bonjour a tous
[05:36] <LjL> baktaah: openoffice.org-l10n-sv
[05:36] <LjL> baktaah: but perhaps you might just install the whole language-support-sv
[05:36] <baktaah> LjL the language-support-sv does not contain spellchecking
[05:37] <neozen> LjL: tell me you looked that up somewhere
[05:37] <LjL> neozen: of course i did, it's called "apt-cache search" you know :P
[05:37] <gergr> hi
[05:37] <neozen> lol
[05:37] <neozen> gergr: hoallo there
[05:37] <LjL> baktaah: actually, it seems to contain it...
[05:38] <gergr> hi neozen
[05:38] <LjL> baktaah: it depends on myspell-sv-se, aspell-sv, wswedish, iswedish
[05:38] <LjL> baktaah: i guess you just need to configure it? (select either myspell or aspell, but not hspell or whatever else there is)
[05:38] <neozen> gergr: how goes your linux'ing today?
[05:38] <mrj> how do i get gaim-text?
[05:38] <baktaah> LjL roger thanks
[05:39] <neozen> mrj: its in the repositories
[05:39] <pavan>  i had a Problem with GDM
[05:39] <pavan> at Login screen it gives a error messege that No servers defined in configuration file and XCMP is disabled. GDM started single server for you
[05:39] <gergr> neozen, haha fine, as usual, how r u doing? xD
[05:39] <baktaah> LjL and no it does not contain it, language-support-sv does not contain spellchecking
[05:39] <gergr> does anyone knows an application to control fan speed?
[05:39] <Toma-> !info cruft
[05:39] <neozen> mrj: should be able to install just like any other package
[05:39] <ubotu> cruft: Find any cruft built up on your system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-0.15 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 1096 kB
[05:39] <neozen> Toma-: cruft???
[05:39] <LjL> baktaah: i'm on Feisty, perhaps it's different. what does  apt-cache show language-support-sv | grep Depends  show?
[05:39] <neozen> Toma-: interesting
[05:40] <Toma-> it clears garbage, apparently
[05:40] <ud> anyone make ati binary drivers work with feisty?
[05:40] <baktaah> LjL no such file/dir
[05:40] <SlimeyPete> ud: yes, me
[05:40] <ppj> neozen: gaim-text as opposed to gaim? its in the reps?
[05:40] <ud> slimey did you have to patch them to make them work with 2.6.20?
[05:40] <LjL> baktaah: uh?! you sure you typed that correctly? that's not an error it should give. at worst, it should be "no such package".
[05:40] <neozen> ppj: yeah.... I believe there is a gaim-text package
[05:40] <LjL> baktaah: apt-cache show language-support-sv
[05:41] <ppj> hm
[05:41] <LjL> baktaah: look at the Depends line
[05:41] <baktaah> LjL nevermind I was the wrong package.
[05:41] <neozen> ppj: doh... guess not
[05:41] <baktaah> I was on the
[05:41] <neozen> ppj: was certain I saw one...
[05:41] <ppj> yeah
[05:41] <ppj> i cant find it
[05:41] <LjL> baktaah: try also  sudo apt-get install myspell-dictionary-sv 
[05:41] <SlimeyPete> ud: nope. They worked first time (I used the Ubuntu fglrx package from synaptic). Incidentally this conversation would be better suited to #ubuntu+1
[05:41] <baktaah> LjL pelling dictionaries, hyphenation patterns, thesauri and help are not
[05:41] <baktaah> included in this package.
[05:41] <ud> slimey ok, thank you
[05:41] <baktaah> LjL  I already got what I wanted so it's cool :)
[05:42] <rambo3> !nordic
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nordic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <LjL> ?
[05:42] <rambo3> there is nordic ubuntu edition that includes all files by default
[05:42] <LjL> if you just select Swedish everywhere when installing, i'm quite positive everything is included by default as well
[05:43] <rambo3> language ones are downloaded after install , so if you have no net its simpler to get noric ubuntu
[05:43] <LjL> i see
[05:43] <hectorUbu> hello, just wondering if anyone here know how to activate the Bluetooth on a Acer Aspire 5570 laptop?
[05:43] <zulfajuniadi2> anyone knows how to add cdrom in repositories, and no, i cannot use apt-cdrom, or the synaptics gui
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> hello
[05:44] <dyrne> hectorUbu: you might get better info from the forums. id try a google search like 'site:ubuntuforums.org bluetooth laptopmodel'
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> who can i ask questions regarding ubuntu LTS??
[05:44] <LjL> !ask
[05:44] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> ah okies
[05:44] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks
[05:45] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: stick a line "cdrom" at the top of your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[05:45] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: no quotes
[05:45] <hectorUbu> dyrne: thanks, I've googled a lot and also checked the forums... I posted there so I'll wait to see if I get any help
[05:45] <n0cTurNuLL> i do have a laptop and it has only 256 of ram
[05:45] <n0cTurNuLL> and running in 1.40 Ghz
[05:45] <zulfajuniadi2> neozen, do i have to point it to my cdrom drive, like /media/cdrom?
[05:45] <n0cTurNuLL> can i install the dapper drake in it??
[05:45] <rambo3> i have ubuntu feisy on 800 Mhz 192 MB ram
[05:46] <LjL> n0cTurNuLL: it will work fairly. won't be lightening-like.
[05:46] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: it should just use the first cdrom drive on the system I think
[05:46] <n0cTurNuLL> ok thanks
[05:46] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: internet connection too slow?
[05:46] <zulfajuniadi2> thanks neozen
[05:46] <LjL> zulfajuniadi2: also it won't really be of any use if you have the Desktop CD
[05:46] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: yeah.. that too
[05:47] <zulfajuniadi2> owh, thanks for the heads up :D
[05:47] <neozen> zulfajuniadi: the repo on the alternate cd is larger
[05:47] <LjL> is there a repo on the desktop CD at  all?
[05:48] <neozen> LjL: ..........a reaaaaaaaaaaaaally minimal one
[05:48] <baktaah> LjL Myspell doesn't work
[05:49] <jamiethehutt> would anyone know a way to run simple commands on boot (such as fusesmb)? like gentoo's /etc/init.d/local script, and not using auto started applications, is /etc/<runlevel>/S99rc.local the only way?
[05:49] <LjL> baktaah: like what?
[05:49] <LjL> !boot > jamiethehutt    (jamiethehutt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:49] <neozen> !boot
[05:49] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[05:49] <neozen> bootscipts are majical whee!
[05:50] <baktaah> LjL myspell-sv doesn't work, I installed it and it doesnt correct.
[05:50] <wendigo> hola
[05:50] <wendigo> alguien habla espaol
[05:50] <LjL> !es | wendigo
[05:50] <ubotu> wendigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:50] <rambo3> myspell-sv-se
[05:50] <LjL> baktaah: but, do all words appear as mispelled (i.e. underlined), or no words?
[05:50] <baktaah> baktaah no... not that either
[05:51] <baktaah> seems like its stuck on English
[05:51] <baktaah> i change it to Swedish then it has no suggestion, I check again it is back at English
[05:51] <psycho78> !acpi
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:52] <jamiethehutt> all the bots stuff on boot ups is for grub. i mean as part of the init system?
[05:52] <Aaronformchina> howto install compiz on dapper?
[05:52] <LjL> jamiethehutt: erm, it does mention /etc/rc.local, doesn't it?
[05:52] <LjL> compiz > Aaronformchina
[05:52] <neozen> Aaronformchina: get thee to #ubuntu-effects !!
[05:52] <Aaronformchina> LjL, That's great!
[05:52] <neozen> lol
[05:53] <baktaah> LjL i change it to Swedish then it has no suggestion, I check again it is back at English
[05:53] <LjL> baktaah: i'm checking
[05:53] <Aaronformchina> LjL, Hopefully the next version of ubuntu has this command. Cheers! :)
[05:54] <NET||abuse> I'm soo loowww,, i can't find any articles on how to setup my sdcardreader slot from my laptop in linux :(
[05:54] <[WaZ] > KUL!
[05:54] <baktaah> LjL thanks man
[05:54] <zulfajuniadi2> is there any difference between 7.04 alpha and beta? i'd like to see if it's worth waiting 4 hours to download the beta version. I already have the alpha
[05:54] <Aaronformchina> neozen, thanks. :)
[05:54] <rambo3> baktaah, har du openoffice.org-l10n-sv ?
[05:55] <concept10> What config file do you blacklist modules in?
[05:55] <LjL> !english
[05:55] <[WaZ] > !feisty | zulfajuniadi
[05:55] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[05:55] <ubotu> zulfajuniadi: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:55] <PriceChild> !feisty > zulfajuniadi2 (see the pm from ubotu)
[05:55] <PriceChild> zulfajuniadi2, I advise you not to use feisty until release, it is not released yet.
[05:55] <wendigo> instale el beryl y no se ven los fondos de mis otros escritorios
[05:55] <LjL> baktaah: it seems that openoffice only tries to use hunspell - and not myspell -... but there is no valid hunspell package for swedish (at least here on feisty)
[05:55] <LjL> !es
[05:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:55] <wendigo> alguien sabe por que
[05:56] <zulfajuniadi2> PriceChild, I'm using it right now on my desktop, seems stable enough ;)
[05:56] <wendigo> en los canales en espaol no me responden
[05:56] <baktaah> LjL so I might as well get that language support that translate the entire program?
[05:56] <Agrajag> wendigo: pero no hablamos espaol aqui
[05:56] <n0cTurNuLL> and another, about is where can i get those AIGXL or GXL
[05:56] <[WaZ] > wendigo: habla ingles?
[05:56] <PriceChild> !es | wendigo Agrajag
[05:56] <ubotu> wendigo Agrajag: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:56] <wendigo> no se
[05:56] <wendigo> no
[05:56] <LjL> baktaah: not sure it'll be of much use for getting the spell checker to work
[05:56] <Agrajag> PriceChild: I'm trying to explain to him that we do not speak Spanish here.
[05:57] <PriceChild> Agrajag,  haha sorry :) Keep it up! :)
[05:57] <Qpid_> does anyone know how to setup dual monitors with a intel chipset
[05:57] <wendigo> i dont speak english
[05:57] <PriceChild> wendigo, /join #ubuntu-es
[05:57] <[WaZ] > I had the chance to say all I know in spanish without looking foolish
[05:57] <facugaich> How do I add an item to the applications menu?
[05:58] <[WaZ] > facugaich: System>Preferences>Menu Layout
[05:58] <concept10> What config file do you blacklist modules in?
[05:58] <wendigo> i need help beryl
[05:58] <Qpid_> facugaich or right click the menu
[05:58] <jamiethehutt> Qpid_ i do for 855m, just give me 5 minutes, fixing a phone :P
[05:59] <Qpid_> jamiethehutt sweet
[05:59] <pokingfun> phone?
[05:59] <LjL> baktaah: ok, make sure you have Swedish selected in *both* Tools / Options / Languages / Western *and* Tools / Options / Writing Aids / Hunspell -> Edit
[05:59] <concept10> What config file do you blacklist modules in?
[05:59] <concept10> can anyone see this?
[05:59] <crimsun> concept10: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[05:59] <concept10> crimsun: oh, thanks
[06:00] <baktaah> LjL thanks
[06:00] <LjL> !blacklist > concept10    (concept10, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:01] <ferronica> neozen: ~/.icons
[06:01] <ferronica> neozen: how to open it??
[06:01] <ferronica> LjL: ~/.icons
[06:01] <n0cTurNuLL> can the dapper drake can detect the network immediately??
[06:01] <ferronica> LjL: how to open this location???
[06:01] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: it should
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> cool
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> sorry for these noob questions
[06:02] <neozen> yay for the blacklist.... it pulls the crack pipe out of my bios ::dances::
[06:02] <[WaZ] > ferronica: open File Browser then Ctrl-H
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> coz i am about to change to ubuntu
[06:02] <n0cTurNuLL> i had already requested CD's of dapper drake
[06:02] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: try the Live CD, it doesn't install and you get to see it before installing it
[06:02] <neozen> nocTurNuLL: we were all noobs once
[06:02] <jamiethehutt> Qpid_ right have you done any dual head stuff with linux before (can you edit xorg.conf basically)?
[06:03] <[WaZ] > neozen: that's deep
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks
[06:03] <neozen> [WaZ] : lol
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> i am wet-mouthed to those screenies that i saw
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> in youtube
[06:03] <ferronica> [WaZ] : nothing happend
[06:03] <neozen> noc that's probably for beryl
[06:03] <n0cTurNuLL> yup
[06:03] <LjL> ferronica: hit Alt+F2 and type  nautilus ~/.icons , if you're on GNOME and .icons is a directory. if it's a file, type  gedit ~/.icons 
[06:04] <[WaZ] > ferronica: it should show hidden files, so you should be able to enter ./icons
[06:04] <neozen> you have fun installing beryl now
[06:04] <n0cTurNuLL> where can i get those AIGXL
[06:04] <neozen> I've heard its lots of fun
[06:04] <n0cTurNuLL> yes it is
[06:04] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: I think you'll need edgy
[06:05] <n0cTurNuLL> it will not included to those CD that i requested??
[06:05] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: edgy is the latest release of Ubuntu, but its not Long Term Support
[06:05] <CoRnJuLiOx> can anyone recommend a good download accelerator that'll pull a single file from four sources(HTTP or FTP) to increase speed (ala bittorrent, but w/out the torrent)?
[06:05] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: no, you will have to install it
[06:05] <Toma-> CoRnJuLiOx: aget
[06:05] <dyrne> n0cTurNuLL: you can upgrade once you install dapper. you have an ati or nvidia card?
[06:05] <mssnlayam> on feisty, NetworkManager stops working whenever my laptop goes to standby (or screensaver comes up). it doesn't start working again. I have to do killall -9 NetworkManager and run it again. Is this a known problem?
[06:05] <n0cTurNuLL> wait
[06:05] <baktaah> LjL under Hunspell there is no Swedish
[06:06] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: doesn't do it here
[06:06] <n0cTurNuLL> i really don't remember
[06:06] <n0cTurNuLL> =)
[06:06] <LjL> baktaah: uh? meaning that the "Swedish" item does not have an icon next to it?
[06:06] <jamiethehutt> LjL rc.local is run at the start of each run level, so any command will be run a bunch of times when the system boots and i cant set stuff to stop when the system stops (in the case of smbfuse to unmount the filesystem at shutdown). its something gentoo has and is rather handy, if its not there i'll write up a script+tutorial+bug report/please add this request :P
[06:06] <mssnlayam> [WaZ] : what should I do now? this is reproducible.
[06:06] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: its not a problem just come here or to #beryl for help
[06:06] <mssnlayam> I don't know if this has been reported as a bug already
[06:06] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: send a bug report?
[06:06] <n0cTurNuLL> S3 graphic twister
[06:07] <Nom-> Hi Guys, can anyone help me with this...I cant find where to disable the option which keeps turning s into  ?
[06:07] <odium> I'm having difficulty configuring my audio card. I have an ensonique audiopci. Is there a utility to make this work or should I being with getting the modules for alsa and compiling a new kernel?
[06:07] <baktaah> LjL nope... myspell is not correct it doesnt work
[06:07] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks
[06:07] <odium> sp/being/begin.
[06:07] <n0cTurNuLL> can i register here?
[06:07] <lobtoc> damn
[06:07] <mssnlayam> [WaX] : is there a way to file a bug report without having an account?
[06:07] <[WaZ] > !register > n0cTurNuLL
[06:07] <LjL> jamiethehutt: well, if you want that level of control, i think you *will* need to write your own /etc/init.d/blah script, and then use update-rc.d to activate it. there is /etc/init.d/skeleton that is provided as an example
[06:07] <deepfreez> Hellom i runnning ubuntu, i need a player+codec for see movie
[06:08] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: never filed a bug report for NetworkManager
[06:08] <neozen> mssnlayam: not to my knowledge
[06:08] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: actually never encountered a new bug
[06:08] <neozen> mssnlayam: what's your problem?
[06:08] <mssnlayam> [WaZ] : neozen: okay
[06:08] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks Waz
[06:08] <_Jaak_> why does totem-gstreamer handle dvd menu's crappy?
[06:08] <LjL> baktaah: look i'm not following you. what with myspell now? you said Swedish is not listed under Hunspell.  but *every* language is listed there, even those that are not available
[06:08] <deepfreez> Hello i runnning ubuntu, i need a player+codec for see movie
[06:08] <mssnlayam> neozen: pasting again: (11:05:31 AM) mssnlayam: on feisty, NetworkManager stops working whenever my laptop goes to standby (or screensaver comes up). it doesn't start working again. I have to do killall -9 NetworkManager and run it again. Is this a known problem?
[06:09] <[WaZ] > !dvd > _Jaak_
[06:09] <deepfreez> ! player
[06:09] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:09] <neozen> mssnlayam: wait.... stuff dies on standby? ......all bad stuff that happens on standby is a known issue.... standby is borked on a lot of stuff
[06:09] <[WaZ] > mssnlayam: got to #ubuntu+1 , this is stable ubuntu channel
[06:09] <ubuntuEdgy> do i need to set a jumper on the mother board in order for it to keep the eth1 on when the computer is turned of ,so i can wol it back on ? did this make sense ?
[06:09] <neozen> mssnlayam: certainly on mine
[06:09] <n0cTurNuLL> where can i get edgy?
[06:09] <baktaah> LjL under hunspel-> no
[06:09] <wendigo> alguien habla espaol
[06:09] <WindowsUser> deepfreez: enable the multiverse and universe stuff, and try VLC?
[06:09] <mssnlayam> [WaZ] : all right, going there
[06:09] <LjL> baktaah: Tools / Options, then select Language Settings, then Writing Aids, then hit the top "Edit" button (Hunspell is the default selection, leave it so), then change "English (USA)" into "Swedish"
[06:09] <LjL> !es | wendigo
[06:09] <ubotu> wendigo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:10] <neozen> ubuntuEdgy: keep eth1 on?
[06:10] <jamiethehutt> LjL well i want to be able to run commands at start up and shut down just by adding them each to a file, gentoo has an init script that does this and runs /etc/conf.d/local.start and local.stop on boot up and halt. its just a nice simple way of running commands at boot/shutdown
[06:10] <wendigo> es que en los canales en espaol nadie me responde
[06:10] <LjL> wendigo: lo siento pero aqui tenemos que hablar en ingls
[06:10] <deepfreez> WindowsUser, tnx
[06:10] <jamiethehutt> i dont want to make an init script/tutorial/bug report if something like it exists :P
[06:10] <wendigo> ni modods ok gracias
[06:10] <neozen> wendigo: type /join #ubuntu-es
[06:10] <baktaah> LjL done still doesnt correct
[06:10] <LjL> baktaah: then *also* select Swedish in Language Settings / Languages, "Default language for documents"
[06:10] <ubuntuEdgy> neozen: so it can be woled over a lan ,i been told it should have a green light when the computer is on ?
[06:11] <ubuntuEdgy> i mean off!!!!!!!!!!
[06:11] <neozen> wol.... wol is a new beast to me
[06:11] <ubuntuEdgy> i so need it
[06:11] <WindowsUser> jamiethehutt: I know theres an rc.local, could write a script and link it for shutdown, but then you'd need info on runlevels
[06:11] <_Jaak_> Gstreamer willl play intro of my dvd but stops after the first clip, i don't get to see the menu, what can i do about it besides using xine?
[06:11] <concept10> crimsun: do you know if it's alright to disable the module _lp_ in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (there are a couple of files)
[06:11] <SlimeyPete> _Jaak_: use VLC?
[06:11] <SlimeyPete> ;)
[06:11] <ubuntuEdgy> wol is wakeon lan by the way
[06:12] <choongii> hi. I have installed java6 and am trying to run a webstart app, .jnlp. when I double click it, I get some sort of webstart settings window. I can run it with javaws bla.jnlp from terminal. how do I make it so that I can run the .jnlp by doubleclicking it?
[06:12] <_Jaak_> why can't i just use gstreamer and totem?
[06:12] <[WaZ] > _Jaak_: workds without a problem here, have you tried installing codecs?
[06:12] <jamiethehutt> WindowsUser rc.local is run at the start of each run level meaning the command will be run a bunch of times unless i tell it only on these levels, it seems a long way round.
[06:12] <[WaZ] > !codecs > _Jaak_
[06:12] <rambo3> jamiethehutt, man update-rc.d
[06:12] <Nom-> Ah, it dead keys that my problem...how do I disable it? :/
[06:12] <Aw0L> how can I set up exclusion rules for dhcp?
[06:12] <WindowsUser> hmm really?
[06:12] <erUSUL> jamiethehutt: less /etc/rc.local
[06:12] <neozen> choongii: right click... and select open with another program (at least... under thunar)
[06:12] <_Qpid> jamiethehutt: you done with that phone yet?
[06:13] <Popoi> Hi, I'm trying to run Lineage II C4 on Wine 0.9.34 under Ubuntu 6.10. When I execute the game I get the following message: "The game may not be consistant because AGP is deactivated. Please activate AGP for consistancy". -- My videocard is an ATI Radeon X1300 and is perfectly configured on Ubuntu with fglrx drivers. What's wrong?
[06:13] <odium> no card is avail in the "Default Sound Card:" from the Sound Preferences, what should I do?
[06:13] <choongii> neozen, works, thanks. any idea how to set it as default?
[06:13] <erUSUL> jamiethehutt: create a script under /etc/init.d/ and add it to the desired runlevels with update-rc.d
[06:13] <jamiethehutt> _qpid yeah, you ever edited xorg.conf before or setup a dual head on a single graphics card beffore?
[06:13] <WindowsUser> jamiethehutt: jamiethehutt its at the end of every multiuser runlevel, do you switch runlevels? ;)
[06:13] <neozen> choongii: should be a checkbox
[06:13] <[WaZ] > Popoi: #winehq
[06:13] <wo0lverine> a+
[06:13] <neozen> choongii: near the bottom
[06:13] <jamiethehutt> oh lol
[06:13] <choongii> neozen, thanks
[06:14] <_Jaak_> gstreamer can't play DVD's
[06:14] <_Jaak_> that's it
[06:14] <jamiethehutt> that'll do what i want :-P
[06:14] <_Qpid> jamiethehutt: never but I do know how to go in and edit it
[06:14] <neozen> choongii: again.... under thunar on xubuntu... your mileage may vary
[06:14] <LjL> jamiethehutt, the closest thing is /etc/init.d/rc.local, which however can only call /etc/rc.local in the way you described (i.e. not at shutdown, for instance). you really will have to make your own script i think - it's not really difficult though, just take /etc/init.d/rc.local and tweak it so that it also executes some script on shutdown
[06:14] <neozen> *I'm under
[06:14] <WindowsUser> jamiethehutt: if they get you to right a script, make sure it responds to script stop/start, they might forget to tell you that
[06:14] <guillem101> I'm installing ubuntu feisty at my sister's laptop. I've reserved a partition where she may install XP (if I cannot avoid it). When XP be installed, MBR will be overwritten by XP. How can I restore grub afterwards?
[06:14] <LjL> jamiethehutt: (but give it a *different* name, don't just edit rc.local, otherwise it'll be overwritten on updates)
[06:14] <choongii> neozen, it's working, thanks
[06:15] <SlimeyPete> guillem101: use the install CD to boot from the hard disk, then run grub-install from there.
[06:15] <WindowsUser> guillem101: make a copy of it? install xp first?
[06:15] <[WaZ] > guillem101: feisty is still beta
[06:15] <n0cTurNuLL> is the dapper drake is a good version too?
[06:15] <jamiethehutt> yeah ive written them before. its something i feel ubuntu could do with doing a little obiously so ill suggest it and see if others like the idea, ill sort _qpid first
[06:15] <concept10> is it okay to disable any module under /etc/modprode.d/blacklist?
[06:15] <n0cTurNuLL> for noobie like me??
[06:15] <neozen> nocturnall: I run dapper
[06:15] <guillem101> [WaZ] : but it works pretty well here
[06:15] <WindowsUser> n0cTurNuLL: go with edgy if you're downloading, dapper if you have it right there
[06:15] <[WaZ] > guillem101: not here ;-)
[06:15] <neozen> ncoturnull: has some older versions of stuff... but is rock solid
[06:15] <umop> What can I use to play .flv files?
[06:15] <guillem101> WindowsUser: nope, XP is optional- perhaps it is not even installed
[06:16] <guillem101> [WaZ] : :-P
[06:16] <n0cTurNuLL> ok i understand
[06:16] <[WaZ] > !grub > guillem101
[06:16] <WindowsUser> guillem101: then save a copy of the mbr, or do the boot live cd, grub-install thing
[06:16] <n0cTurNuLL> maybe i will go to higher versions when i buy a new laptop
[06:16] <guillem101> SlimeyPete: Will I be able to select which partition to start from?
[06:16] <n0cTurNuLL> i just experiment for the dapper
[06:16] <neozen> nocturnull: I can vouch for dapper
[06:17] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: Edgy is supposed to be faster then Dapper because of new memory management
[06:17] <jamiethehutt> _Qpid: right your going to have to open xorg.conf and first duplicate the device section first
[06:17] <neozen> nocturnull: you don't get firefox 2 out of the box though
[06:17] <SlimeyPete> guillem101: you may have to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst to add Windows to the list, but that's fairly straightforward.
[06:17] <baktaah> LjL Done and done figured out the problem is that it does automaticly change back to English when I press okay and exit etc.
[06:17] <_Qpid> jamiethehutt: ok
[06:17] <[WaZ] > than*
[06:17] <neozen> nocturnull: meh.... you can update the kernel through apt-get
[06:17] <guillem101> SlimeyPete: I was aware of it.
[06:17] <n0cTurNuLL> so you wants to say that i must install edgy instead
[06:18] <LjL> baktaah: does Swedish have an icon next to it, in the two lists where you select it?
[06:18] <neozen> nocturnull: no... the decision is yours.... I went with xubuntu dapper
[06:18] <deepfreez> ! kde
[06:18] <guillem101> SlimeyPete: I know that the easy order is first to install windows and later on Linux... but I cannot follow that order this time
[06:18] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[06:18] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: no, all im saying is that performance wise, they are comparable
[06:18] <danny> I'm using an USB headset but I'm having trouble playing things through flash like youtube? no sound is coming out? any ideas?
[06:18] <n0cTurNuLL> i see
[06:18] <baktaah> LjL abc ?
[06:18] <Nom-> grr...anyone have any ideas?  It seems no matter which keyboard layouts I have setup and active, dead keys are always on...it is driving me nuts
[06:18] <n0cTurNuLL> you guys helping me a lot here
[06:18] <LjL> baktaah: yes
[06:18] <n0cTurNuLL> ^^
[06:18] <neozen> nocturnull: its why the room exists mon
[06:19] <n0cTurNuLL> you guys are really a help for non-ubuntu user like me
[06:19] <n0cTurNuLL> ^^
[06:19] <n0cTurNuLL> wait up
[06:19] <Adam300> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Dell Optiplex Gx60
[06:19] <jamiethehutt> _Qpid: then you'll have to change the Identifier in the second to "secondhead" or something. your going to have to add the Screen option, the line will read "Screen 0" in the first device (without "s) and "Screen 1" for the second
[06:19] <guillem101> [WaZ] : the ubotu link is just what I was looking for. Thanks very much to all of you, guys.
[06:19] <baktaah> LjL it has but everytime I press okand exit it has reseted back to English
[06:19] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: these guyz are usually even better help for ubuntu users ;-)
[06:19] <Adam300> when the system boots up it starts the Linux boot and then just reboots it'self
[06:19] <[WaZ] > guillem101: np
[06:19] <neozen> baktaah: there should be some kind of global preferences window
[06:20] <neozen> baktaah: that makes the changes more permanent
[06:20] <n0cTurNuLL> [WaZ]  can i send you a picture of my system??
[06:20] <neozen> baktaah: if there isn't..... file a bug report... since that sounds serious
[06:20] <LjL> baktaah: not sure, it works fine here. you don't have "For the current document only" selected, of course? also, did you have OpenOffice already open before installing the dictionaries? if so, close it and reopen it
[06:20] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: ? why?
[06:20] <n0cTurNuLL> my hardware i mean
[06:20] <baktaah> LjL i did close and reopen several time
[06:21] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: what would I do with it?
[06:21] <n0cTurNuLL> so that you can advise me what ubuntu should i go for
[06:21] <burkmat> !./configure
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <umop> What can I use to play .flv files?  VLC appearas to play them, it counts the seconds, but there is no video.
[06:21] <n0cTurNuLL> if you want to
[06:21] <danny> How do I select my default sound devic
[06:21] <baktaah> LjL I fixed it
[06:21] <joea65> i've no problems with VLC and .flv
[06:21] <joea65> hm
[06:21] <LjL> baktaah: how?
[06:21] <baktaah> LjL myspell package didnt work.
[06:21] <erUSUL> umop: mplayer works for me
[06:21] <baktaah> uninstalled it
[06:21] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: what ubuntu you use isn't really the question, what Window Manager you use might
[06:21] <neozen> burkmat: let me guess... you're attempting to compile from source
[06:21] <Adam300> How do I trouble shoot Ubuntu's boot process from cd?
[06:21] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: xubuntu uses a lighter Window Manager
[06:21] <_Qpid> jamiethehutt: where is the confid file again?
[06:21] <LjL> baktaah: uninstalled "myspell", or uninstalled "myspell-sv-se"?
[06:22] <rambo3> baktaah, here is my list of programs  : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13536/
[06:22] <burkmat> neozen, Yeah.
[06:22] <n0cTurNuLL> ahhh
[06:22] <n0cTurNuLL> i see
[06:22] <CoRnJuLiOx> i can't figure out how to get wget to do what i want to do, it seems that i need to use curl and then i 'cat' all of the portions together, but is there an easier way?
[06:22] <neozen> nocturnull: but just as capable imho
[06:22] <burkmat> neozen, Known bug or something?
[06:22] <joea65> oops, i think i just did /who #ubuntu
[06:22] <joea65> that was bad
[06:22] <baktaah> LjL yeah -sv-se and got language support instead
[06:22] <baktaah> Got the same as rambo3
[06:22] <baktaah> thanks guys
[06:22] <neozen> burkmat: lol..... not necessarily... what are you attempting to compile?
[06:22] <n0cTurNuLL> so i can even change my dapper looks
[06:23] <n0cTurNuLL> sorry for my bad englisgh
[06:23] <burkmat> neozen At the moment it's Kismet, but I've had this same error on every other run of /configure...
[06:23] <neozen> nocturnull: yes.... there are themes... they are magical
[06:23] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: you can change about everything
[06:23] <n0cTurNuLL> cool
[06:23] <joea65> how do i use the Emerald Theme Manager?
[06:23] <neozen> nocturnull: kde-look.org xfce-look.org gnome-look.org
[06:23] <joea65> i can see the themes, but I can't apply them
[06:23] <n0cTurNuLL> even in dapper??
[06:23] <Nom-> oh thank god...finally found it...had to run a command line option to turn off dead keys
[06:23] <neozen> nocturnull: they all use the same themes
[06:23] <Nom-> Why on earth isn't it available in the system control panel thingy???
[06:24] <[WaZ] > joea65: click reload window decorator in beryl menu
[06:24] <SlimeyPete> joea65: you need to use the Beryl Manager to enable beryl & emerald first
[06:24] <neozen> burkmat: ok... what error
[06:24] <n0cTurNuLL> is it easy to install?
[06:24] <atamyrat> can smbd help my pliz? i got following error when i try to install nvidia-glx
[06:24] <atamyrat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13537/
[06:24] <n0cTurNuLL> the dapper i mean
[06:24] <Rictoo> who wants to play IRC UNO? (we need a couple more ppl) pm me
[06:24] <burkmat> neozen: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[06:24] <jamiethehutt> _Qpid: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but back it up sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.befforeifuckedit
[06:24] <Rictoo> who wants to play IRC UNO? (we need a couple more ppl) pm me
[06:24] <neozen> burkmet: ahhhh
[06:24] <sorush20> what wireless pci card works seamlessly with ubuntu out of the box
[06:24] <neozen> burkmet: have you installed a c compiler?
[06:24] <n0cTurNuLL> i saw a screeny from youtube installing the dapper
[06:24] <Nom-> oh for the love of god...where do i pose a suggestion?  forums?
[06:24] <neozen> burkmet: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:25] <neozen> burkmet: that'll do
[06:25] <burkmat> neozen, Thanks ^^
[06:25] <n0cTurNuLL> its look like the installation of winsuck too
[06:25] <SlimeyPete> n0cTurNuLL: why use dapper? Edgy is newer, and Feisty is about to be released.
[06:25] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: type Ubuntu edgy beryl in youtube
[06:25] <jkimball4> Could someone send me dappers default sources.list file?
[06:25] <n0cTurNuLL> its free that's why
[06:25] <SlimeyPete> n0cTurNuLL: so's edgy
[06:25] <SlimeyPete> n0cTurNuLL: all ubuntu releases are free
[06:25] <n0cTurNuLL> and i don't have money to buy one
[06:25] <n0cTurNuLL> ^^
[06:25] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: you can download the ISOs
[06:25] <SlimeyPete> n0cTurNuLL: you don't have to buy anything...
[06:26] <n0cTurNuLL> and i am using my father's connection
[06:26] <neozen> slimeypete: originally... I got confused by edgy's being angry at my graphics card.... now I know I have to blacklist video and it works just fine
[06:26] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: all you have to do is burn them
[06:26] <SlimeyPete> n0cTurNuLL: Ubuntu will send you a CD for free
[06:26] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: okay ;-)
[06:26] <SlimeyPete> n0cTurNuLL: as in, they'll send you a CD in the post.
[06:26] <joea65> IRC! It's like a support forum in fastforward!!
[06:26] <[WaZ] > SlimeyPete: I think he did
[06:26] <neozen> joea65: yeah.... room moves fast
[06:26] <n0cTurNuLL> he will be mad if the bandwidth is losty
[06:27] <neozen> joea65: you get used to it after a while
[06:27] <mrsieb> Hello maybe someone could help me please installing mldonkey on ubuntu ?
[06:27] <n0cTurNuLL> yup SlimeyPete  but those are dapper
[06:27] <n0cTurNuLL> ^^
[06:27] <joea65> i thought i was, then i joined this room
[06:27] <PasNox> evening all
[06:27] <joea65> 1081 users!
[06:27] <SlimeyPete> n0cTurNuLL: oh... good point
[06:27] <joea65> granted not all of them are active...
[06:27] <n0cTurNuLL> i just requested them
[06:27] <PasNox> i have problem with my nvidia card
[06:27] <n0cTurNuLL> 10 CD
[06:27] <joea65> but it's still fast
[06:27] <neozen> mrsieb: should be an emule client in the repositories... will be alot easier to install
[06:27] <n0cTurNuLL> ^^
[06:27] <neozen> !emule
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about emule - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <PasNox> it was supported with glx drivers
[06:28] <neozen> mrsieb: might need to add the universe repository
[06:28] <n0cTurNuLL> how big is the edgy??
[06:28] <^^CatTuX^^> Can anyone provide me a full fledged offline installation of Alien in deb file?
[06:28] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: 1 CD, so around 700 megz
[06:28] <mrsieb> @ neozen i know i have alleready installed the emule client but i need mldonkey for e special alt torrent net
[06:28] <PasNox> but since the last driver 9755, my card was drop and they say use old legacy 96xx
[06:28] <PasNox> but on the webpage, the legacy are 7184 :|
[06:28] <PasNox> any idea ?
[06:28] <neozen> nocturnull: lol..... bummer dude
[06:28] <neozen> s/nocturnull/mrsieb/
[06:29] <PasNox> os is kubuntu feisty / nvidia geforce 4 ti 4200
[06:29] <joea65> n00b irc question: what's hop?
[06:29] <neozen> joea65: hop... in what context?
[06:29] <n0cTurNuLL> ??
[06:29] <umop> erUSUL, ok will try that
[06:29] <n0cTurNuLL> what was that??
[06:29] <neozen> nocturnull: a search and replace (typed something by mistake)
[06:29] <n0cTurNuLL> the 700 megs is the full intall?
[06:29] <joea65> slash hop # room
[06:29] <joea65> oh
[06:30] <neozen> nocturnull: yeah.... full install of the OS and what it includes by default..... all the other stuff is in the repositories.... which make it easy to install them
[06:30] <sisko> my local server runs in port 8090 but the clients are accessing the service from port 80. so i am PREROUTEing it with REDIRECTion from iptables 80 to 8090. is it a true approach indeed?
[06:31] <neozen> sisko: we'll have an answer for you in a bit.... once one of our admin-type-guru's puts down his beer
[06:31] <sogen> ubuntu-pl
[06:31] <sisko> :-) ok
[06:31] <asymptonic> Anyone know why I'd lose video on Ubuntu Server install on a Sun x2200 M2?
[06:32] <joea65> hm, when i try to reload window manager into beryl, it flashes, then goes back to metacity
[06:32] <asymptonic> Happens after kernel boots (before the language prompt)
[06:32] <n0cTurNuLL> neozen can you send me the direct DL site for edgy?
[06:32] <n0cTurNuLL> please
[06:32] <neozen> nocturnull: if you look on the pages for ubuntu, xubuntu, and kubuntu, they all have documents which tell you what they come with
[06:33] <neozen> nocturnull: you want the install for ubuntu edgy, kubuntu edgy, or xubuntu edgy?
[06:33] <genii> asymptonic: You mean a SunFire X2200 ?
[06:33] <asymptonic> yes
[06:33] <n0cTurNuLL> BRB
[06:33] <n0cTurNuLL> phone
[06:33] <asymptonic> Edgy, AMD64
[06:34] <neozen> nocturnull: well... there's a huge list of mirrors on the site for each distro
[06:34] <neozen> nocturnull: you'll probably want one close to you
[06:34] <joea65> quick question... is there a BSOD equivalent for 'buntu? granted i won't see it as much, if at all. just wondering
[06:35] <asymptonic> Its as if the frame buffer isn't working
[06:35] <Lowe> Rhythmbox is very slow here, skipping to next number will take up to 20 secs...
[06:35] <genii> asymptonic We had no issues on a x2100 opteron 165  system. This with dapper
[06:35] <[WaZ] > joea65: no
[06:35] <neozen> joea65: two words.... kernel panic
[06:35] <jkimball4> Could someone send an untouched sources.list for Dapper?
[06:35] <preaction> joea65: no, but if you see a "segmentation fault" that's probably as close as you'll get
[06:35] <neozen> joea65: if you don't see those words...... you are still chugging
[06:35] <dnl> What is the recommended method for installation of ubuntu without network access?  Is there an automated way to make a DVD with all ubuntu non-universe packages?
[06:35] <zulfajuniadi> does anyone hav that ubuntu-nl page where it automatically generates repositories according to your country? i forgot to bookmark it
[06:35] <genii> asymptonic You may want to try "notsc" kernel option at boot.
[06:36] <joea65> where would it say that? new dialog? or would my DE close?
[06:36] <[WaZ] > dnl: all of them?
[06:36] <asymptonic> okay
[06:36] <asymptonic> what does that do?
[06:36] <neozen> dnl: to my knowledge.... no... but that would rule
[06:36] <[WaZ] > neozen: how many DVDs would that be?
[06:36] <dnl> [WaZ] : Not all... as many as I could get in 4.7GB
[06:36] <preaction> joea65: you'll usually only see "segfault" or "segmentation fault" when you run your program in a terminal. otherwise you'll see that friendly gnome error dialog (if it's enabled)
[06:37] <genii> asymptonic Basically prevents 1 cpu/core from losing sync with the other one
[06:37] <asymptonic> ok
[06:37] <joea65> gotcha, thanks.
[06:37] <dnl> [WaZ] : Basically, I would like to select a few packages and get those - plus all their dependencies.
[06:37] <Marthin> Hi. got problem with proftpd in ubuntu (Or more a problem with fileaccess) Anyone that have time to help me?
[06:37] <abccba_> does putting the /boot and grub folders inside an extended partition causes any problem?
[06:37] <LjL> what do i reconfigure to tell my hardware clock to stay set to UTC?
[06:37] <preaction> joea65: there's no true "blue screen of death", but there are error messages. Kernel panic is one, segfault is another. those are the two big ones
[06:37] <asymptonic> doesn't seem frozen though, I can use the sysreq and ctl-alt-del keys
[06:37] <neozen> [WaZ] : a metric a55load... or a sh*t-ton.... depending upon your unit of measure
[06:37] <[WaZ] > dnl: Id apt-get fech what you need on another pc then copy paste them from /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:37] <preaction> LjL: booting into windows screws things up?
[06:37] <[WaZ] > fetch*
[06:37] <zulfajuniadi> nvm... found it... if anyone is interested, its located at http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:38] <joea65> ah
[06:38] <asymptonic> got it, either video=vesa or notsc did it
[06:38] <LjL> preaction: err, no, booting into another Ubuntu install (which has the clock set as UTC, while this one doesn't), does :-) since i don't have any Windows installed, i guess i'd rather just set both to UTC
[06:38] <gnomefreak> LjL: tz... something god mind just went blank.
[06:38] <dnl> [WaZ] : Would that work from a non-debian machine?  (I use gentoo and Red Hat Enterprise at home)
[06:38] <[WaZ] > dnl: no it wouldn't
[06:39] <FordCortina> erm, i can't stop my mysql database server using /etc/init.d/mysql stop, what should I look into?
[06:39] <dnl> [WaZ] : Ok, I will probably install Ubuntu in vmware to test everything first.
[06:39] <[WaZ] > dnl: ok
[06:39] <dnl> [WaZ] : It would probably be easier to do that than to install apt on a gentoo machine and get it all configured.
[06:39] <LjL> gnomefreak: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata tells me to run tzconfig (what? can't it run it itself? :P), though when simulating it as non-root, it didn't ask about the hardware clock
[06:39] <neozen> dnl: I know the alternate install has a somewhat larger on-board repository though
[06:40] <happy_broccoli> how can i migrate from other thunderbird to debian thunderbird? i copied .thunderbird and named it .mozilla-thunderbird
[06:40] <Marthin> Not sure if its allowed, but i even pay 20$ (paypal) if someone can help me with this proftpd problem, have played with it for 8 hours now and i'm getting frustrated :)
[06:40] <dnl> neozen: Is there a package list for each ISO image?  (I will be using the 7.10 beta)
[06:40] <asymptonic> video=vesa actually
[06:40] <siggij> i have a dd 606.1 server but my language and keyboard is off anyone know how to config this
[06:40] <[WaZ] > dnl: could be a way to do it, but there might be a more efficient way of doing it, like downloading edgy DVD
[06:40] <neozen> dnl: yes... there is...... but I don't know where it is
[06:40] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i'm trying to find a download accelerator that'll let me download one file from four different servers to speed it up because each server has a downstream cap on it. i've tried wget, kget, axel and prozilla and i can't seem to figure out how to get it to do what i want it to do, at least i don't think its doing what i want it to. can anyone help?
[06:41] <neozen> dnl: feisty is in heavy beta..... might want to go with edgy if you're just going to be running in a vm
[06:41] <batusays> hi
[06:41] <batusays> who can help me with samba???
[06:41] <digits> I am doing a really small install (pekwm, firefox and thunderbird), using the mingetty "hack" for autologin and startx, but how can i tell ubuntu to do a shutdown when X is closed?
[06:41] <preaction> !anyone | batusays
[06:41] <ubotu> batusays: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:41] <neozen> dnl: its going to be rough until the c22 or 23
[06:41] <neozen> *22
[06:41] <gnomefreak> LjL: i have never ran it but i see it everytime i set up a chroot (i think i have 6 chroots set up atm)
[06:42] <dnl> neozen/[WaZ] : I need xgl/compiz and the ability to compile the latest versions of Kino and Cinelerra.
[06:42] <Adam300> How can I troubleshoot a ubuntu system that reboots on bootup?
[06:42] <Adam300> is there a recovery program on the live cd?
[06:42] <deepfreez> Hi, i have a question , how i can install driver for Video, i have GeForce N7600 Gs
[06:42] <digits> Adam300: hit escape when grub first show, choose failsafe login and check the logs?
[06:42] <Adam300> right on thank you digits
[06:42] <[WaZ] > dnl: yeah id do what you said, install ubuntu in vmware and get everything from there
[06:43] <zulfajuniadi> !easybuntu | deepfreez
[06:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easybuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:43] <neozen> dnl: you have fun with that...... #ubuntu-effects should be able to help you with xgl and compiz
[06:43] <ferronica> [WaZ] :  "clock/themes folder" how to open this directory???
[06:43] <genii> asymptonic: You may also want to check out https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/88417 for another issue
[06:43] <zulfajuniadi> deepfreez: google easybuntu
[06:43] <deepfreez> zulfajuniadi, tnx
[06:43] <LjL> gnomefreak:   The Debian GNU/Linux system gains its knowledge of this setting from the file /etc/default/rcS.  This file contains either the line  UTC=yes,  which  indicates that  the  hardware  clock is set to UTC, or it contains the line UTC=no, which declares the hardware clock is set to Local Time  (from the tzconfig manpage). could be a tad less involved, i guess... especially since setup, somehow, asks using debconf
[06:43] <neozen> dnl: be aware.... you won't be able to get those advanced graphics effects when running in a VM
[06:43] <Adam300> digits I only have three options safe mode regular and mem test
[06:43] <gortba> Hi. I want to set up a home network where all of my computers share information. For example, I'd like to be able to look at any computer's hardrive from any other computer in my home. Can someone tell me what keyword or keywords I should search for in google to try to do this?
[06:43] <Adam300> safe mode provides me with the same results
[06:44] <Drel3> is there any NfO file reader for ubuntu
[06:44] <Adam300> it reboots it self
[06:44] <digits> Adam300: safemode it is
[06:44] <neozen> gortba: samba
[06:44] <preaction> Drel3: what's an "NfO" file?
[06:44] <Adam300> sorry recovery mode
[06:44] <Drel3> extension
[06:44] <LjL> Adam300: tried booting with acpi=off, or noapic?
[06:44] <Adam300> no I haven't
[06:44] <dnl> neozen: I should be able to use mesa with software rendering in VMWare, though.
[06:44] <LjL> !boot > Adam300    (Adam300, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:44] <neozen> gortba: look in the ubuntu guides.... and in the ubuntuforums.org.... there's a ton of info out there
[06:44] <Adam300> is that in the grub command?
[06:44] <neozen> dnl: perhaps
[06:44] <gnomefreak> LjL: im sure there is an easier way that was first thing that came to mind
[06:45] <Drel3> i need it to open some files
[06:45] <LjL> Adam300: yes, hit "e" and then edit the command line. the links should explain with screenshots too
[06:45] <neozen> ok... time to go to college
[06:45] <neozen> farewell all
[06:45] <[WaZ] > farewell neozen
[06:45] <Drel3> anyone know?
[06:45] <gortba> neozen: thanks. The problem is that I'm not really sure what to search for. I tried stuff like networking etc...but these searches bring up stuff that I'm not exactly looking for
[06:45] <n0cTurNuLL> neozen
[06:45] <preaction> Drel3: if you're talking about the same "nfo" files that I think you mean, you open them with a text editor
[06:45] <n0cTurNuLL> wait up dude
[06:46] <LjL> Drel3: right, but what sort of files are they? i never met that extension. type "file filename" to (hopefully) know what kind of file it is.
[06:46] <digits> What is the smartest way to have the computer shutdown when the X session ends? (I don't use gnome, but pekwm started with startx)
[06:46] <Adam300> hmm I am using BitchX and don't know how to see private messages
[06:46] <[WaZ] > gortba: samba is what your looking for
[06:46] <Adam300> a little new to this
[06:46] <LjL> !boot | Adam300
[06:46] <ubotu> Adam300: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[06:46] <Adam300> cool thanks
[06:46] <Drel3> i cant open them with any text editor
[06:46] <gortba> neozen: this might sound like a stupid question but is what I'm trying do actually "networking" my home computers or is it setting up a server of some sort?
[06:46] <[WaZ] > Adam300: ctrl-+ / ctrl-- i believe
[06:46] <joea65> i love how you can still interact with a window even after an error dialog (or other) has popped up. that's one thing in particular that i didnt like about windoze
[06:46] <dnl> neozen/[WaZ] : The person I am setting this up for needs a good user experience, so I guess I will try to do this with the Edgy DVD.  If I did it with the 7.10 beta, would updates via apt-get be able to eventually turn it into the final release?
[06:47] <LjL> Drel3: so, what does "file <filename>" say?
[06:47] <[WaZ] > dnl: yes
[06:47] <joea65> we should go around the room and all say what we're thankful for in ubuntu..... . . .
[06:47] <joea65> :P
[06:47] <joea65> sorry, i'm done
[06:47] <preaction> Drel3: and "it doesn't work" is useless. what happens?
[06:47] <[WaZ] > dnl: but Feisty being beta, i wouldn't recommend it
[06:47] <LjL> dnl: yes, unless some update or another breaks it in the process
[06:47] <Drel3> editor open it but nothing is displayed
[06:47] <n0cTurNuLL> [WaZ]  can you tell me the direct DL site for the edgy?
[06:47] <n0cTurNuLL> please
[06:47] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: where do you live?
[06:47] <preaction> Drel3: is it possible that there's nothing in there?
[06:48] <neozen> gortba: you're trying to share folders across multiple machines..... thats more like setting up a samba server on that box.. and using samba clients on all the others to connect to that share
[06:48] <LjL> Drel3, would you just kindly tell me what "file filename" says?
[06:48] <Drel3> no it must be somthing
[06:48] <fogos> its there a way to install ubuntu from  a live cd at boot, without enter to the gdm. thanks..
[06:48] <Drel3> something
[06:48] <fogos> ?
[06:48] <preaction> Drel3: how big is the file?
[06:48] <Billly> hi guys, i set the rox-filer up but every time i have to right on the terminal rox -p=0, i put that command in the startup but it didnt change... does any1 know whats the problem?
[06:48] <n0cTurNuLL> neozen can you send me the direct DL site for edgy?
[06:48] <LjL> fogos: no, use the alternate CD for that
[06:48] <n0cTurNuLL> neozen can you send me the direct DL site for edgy?
[06:48] <neozen> fogos: yeah.... you use the alternate install
[06:48] <genii> Drel3: Text is the correct type
[06:48] <gortba> neozen: Thanks! I will give samba a shot and see what I can come up with.
[06:48] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: WHERE do you live (approximatively)
[06:48] <[WaZ] > oops caps
[06:48] <joea65> n0cTurNuLL: do you want the .iso? i'm assuming for i386
 ok, i have to download again,
[06:49] <Drel3> file size is 6kb
[06:49] <dnl> By the way, are the Edgy DVD images updated at all with new versions that go into the APT repository for Edgy?  I need to do this install on a computer with only dialup internet.
[06:49] <neozen> nocturnull.... someone else can get you that... I must go
[06:49] <LjL> n0cTurNuLL can't you just fire up a browser and click the 2 or three very clear links?
[06:49] <LjL> !minimal > fogos    (fogos, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:49] <LjL> dnl: no
[06:49] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[06:49] <n0cTurNuLL> sorry if i annoy you LjL
[06:49] <Adam300> I added noapic and nolapic to my recovery mode grub boot options still same reslut
[06:50] <selim_a> anyway get unbuntu 6.10 working with KTDMS's PEAR ldap implementation ?
[06:50] <joea65> http://ftp.citylink.co.nz/ubuntu-releases/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[06:50] <Drel3> i need program like in windows NFO file reader
[06:50] <LjL> dnl: at least, i don't think. i always use the CDs, but i don't think it's any different with the DVDs
[06:50] <joea65> i picked new zealand
[06:50] <dnl> LjL: Is there a way to update the DVD image with apt-get?
[06:50] <n0cTurNuLL> i just wanna know if what ubuntu is fit for my laptop
[06:50] <LjL> Drel3, are you ignoring me?
[06:50] <Drel3> no dude
[06:51] <joea65> n0cTurNuLL: what kind of laptop? 32bit?
[06:51] <Adam300> Oh new errors now
[06:51] <n0cTurNuLL> coz i only got 1.4ghz
[06:51] <n0cTurNuLL> 224 of ram
[06:51] <[WaZ] > joea65: i think he means performance wise
[06:51] <LjL> Drel3: then would you please type  file filename  in a shell, where filename is the name of your file, and paste the output that you get into here?
[06:51] <n0cTurNuLL> or 256
[06:51] <joea65> and yeah, seconding [WaZ] ... what continent are you on
[06:51] <my-nick> hello
[06:51] <n0cTurNuLL> yeah
[06:51] <Adam300> unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address HEXHEXHEX
[06:51] <n0cTurNuLL> it is a 32 bit
[06:51] <dnl> What would happen, for example, if I mounted the alternate live dvd, updated the packages, and recreated the ISO image?
[06:51] <my-nick> how do I customize cairo-dock
 thank you vm..
[06:52] <selim_a> anyway get unbuntu 6.10 working with KTDMS's PEAR ldap implementation ?  please msg me...
[06:52] <my-nick> fdefault bottom
[06:52] <joea65> IMO, n0cTurNuLL, you could run any of the 'buntu projects
[06:52] <LjL> dnl: the live CD doesn't contain packages (i.e. no .deb files), it just contains the full installation (and that is why you can't use it as a repository, by the way)
[06:52] <joea65> only 1.4GHz is quite a bit
[06:52] <joea65> not a lot, but definitely enough
[06:52] <Drel3> ljL: funny dont know how pls explain
[06:52] <LjL> dnl: the alternate CD would contain .debs, but then it's not a good idea to just change them under its nose, since the database wouldn't be changed accordingly
[06:53] <[WaZ] > joea65: live cd will run pretty slowly though
[06:53] <dnl> LjL: Is this the same with the regular instal CD?
[06:53] <joea65> [WaZ] : oh? whats recommended for that?
[06:53] <n0cTurNuLL> so i can go to ny ubuntu projects?
[06:53] <dnl> s/instal/install/
[06:53] <LjL> Drel3: do you know what the terminal is and, more or less, how it's used?
[06:53] <my-nick>  anybody familiar with cairo-dock customizing?
[06:53] <[WaZ] > joea65: alternate CD?
[06:53] <joea65> live cd
[06:53] <kleinweby> hello, i have read from the intel mac support. The wiki says thats ubuntu supports isight and i need a extractor. I use the extractor from the pathed version of uvcvideo. So i extract the firmware. But ekiga dost found my buildin isight :( any idea?
[06:53] <LjL> dnl: the "regular install CD" is the Desktop CD, which is the "live" CD. the other one (text-mode only installation) is the Alternate CD.
[06:53] <[WaZ] > joea65: that was a reply
[06:53] <joea65> heh, i meant what is recommened to run the live cd
[06:54] <Drel3> i know that
[06:54] <joea65> oh, gotcha
[06:54] <LjL> Drel3: then open a terminal please, then go to the directory where your file is, and type  file filename , filename being your file
[06:54] <my-nick> :((
[06:54] <[WaZ] > joea65: not sure but if i remember well it didnt run too fast on live cd with only 256MB ram...
[06:54] <xLoial> anyone know how I can get update notification when using a non-gnome environment? (currently testing enlightenment DR17, however with all gnome-stuff installed))
[06:54] <my-nick> help with customizing cairo-dock
[06:55] <gazuuu> hi everybody
[06:55] <Drel3> file is from torrent : 88.Minutes.DVDSCR.XviD-ReCode.nfo
[06:55] <CoRnJuLiOx> has anyone here used axel? how do i know where it saves the file to when its complete?
[06:55] <dnl> LjL: Are there tutorials on how to build one of these CDs from packages?  (I really need this install to take place without connecting to the Internet)
[06:55] <gazuuu> how i do when i want to mount a samba sharedd
[06:55] <gazuuu> in an user account
[06:55] <n0cTurNuLL> that is my system joea65
[06:55] <erUSUL> CoRnJuLiOx: in the directory you launched it from
[06:55] <LjL> Drel3: right, but i want the *output* of that "file 88.Minutes.DVDSCR.XviD-ReCode.nfo" command. (anyway, the filename tells me it's most, most probably a text file).
[06:55] <joea65> it didn't go thru... not sure why
[06:56] <CoRnJuLiOx> erUSUL: thanks a bunch
[06:56] <LjL> Drel3: (and if it's empty, then it means it didn't download from the torrent yet)
[06:56] <LjL> dnl: there's a tutorial on how to build a Desktop CD
[06:56] <[WaZ] > Drel3: nfos are text files like LjL says
[06:56] <LjL> dnl: not sure about Alternate
[06:56] <my-nick> help with cairo-dock settings
[06:57] <LjL> dnl: hold on, the bot is lagging
[06:57] <Drel3> I finished that download, maybe file is realy empty
[06:57] <LjL> !customlivecd > dnl    (dnl, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:57] <Bluedog> !customlivecd > Bluedog
[06:57] <erUSUL> CoRnJuLiOx: no problem
[06:58] <joea65> n0cTurNuLL: try mediafire.com or something. photobucket? i'm not sure why it didn't send
[06:58] <n0cTurNuLL> ok
[06:58] <[WaZ] > !customlivecd > [WaZ] 
[06:58] <n0cTurNuLL> wait up
[06:58] <dnl> LjL: I just read that guide.  It looks like it supports updating the DVD image via apt-get will work.
[06:58] <Drel3> ljL thx dude
[06:59] <dnl> Ok, I think I will use the live cd, as that will let me easily customize the packages and test everything on vmware.  I can't find any DVD images on releases.ubuntu.com... are there any official DVD images with extra packages?
[07:00] <joea65> hahah, i can hear my harddrive in my server clicking along. its pretty loud :P
[07:00] <n0cTurNuLL> http://www.mediafire.com/?bnn22ijonmn
[07:00] <selim_a> anyone get unbuntu 6.10 working with KTDMS's PHP:PEAR openldap implementation ?  please msg me...
[07:00] <manopulus> hello, i've installed Feisty and so happy :) but - i have made openvpn connection in network manager and cannot be connected (but can with same files by sudo openvpn --client config.ovpn). what i can dig and where?
[07:00] <n0cTurNuLL> thre it is
[07:00] <joea65> gotcha
[07:00] <n0cTurNuLL> there it is
[07:00] <n0cTurNuLL> ^^
[07:00] <[WaZ] > joea65: bad sign, you should back up
[07:00] <joea65> damn. i gotta get a new HD first
[07:01] <joea65> its only 20GB. the server is about 3 days old. but the HDD is .... old
[07:01] <[WaZ] > joea65: little ticking sounds usually mean physicall damage
[07:01] <deepfreez> how i can install: easyubuntu_latest.deb
[07:01] <joea65> and by server i mean i build a computer and made it a server (LAMP and whatnot)
[07:01] <gazuuu> hi
[07:01] <joea65> thanks, [WaZ] 
[07:01] <bigjohnto> how would i process the mimedefang queue?
[07:01] <bigjohnto> seems to be getting stuck
[07:01] <deepfreez> ! .deb
[07:02] <Centaur5> Does anybody know the best e-mail address to reach the right people at ATI about Linux driver support?
[07:02] <bigjohnto> I just want to send specific messages through .. example /var/spool/MIMEDefang/mime-blalalalal <--- how can i just process those to email right away
[07:02] <gazuuu> how can an user mount a smb shared
[07:02] <gazuuu> ?
[07:02] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[07:02] <dnl> Centaur5: Snail mail.
[07:02] <digits> Any ideas on how to shutdown the computer when X is closed? Trying to make a thin foolproof install for my father, and when he exits X i want the computer to do a "shutdown -h now" automagically (i'm using pekwm)
[07:03] <Centaur5> dnl: Alright, that's how I'll send it.  Thanks.
[07:03] <HymnToLife> digits, sudo shutdown -hP now
[07:03] <selim_a> gazuuu use /etc/fstab
[07:03] <selim_a> or smbmount
[07:03] <gazuuu> yes i do, but as a  user the ubuntu don't let me mount
[07:03] <HymnToLife> you want it to be done utomatically when X closes ?
[07:04] <[WaZ] > digits: sudo shutdown -h now
[07:04] <selim_a> sudo smbmount
[07:04] <dnl> Centaur5: Preferably, send it to AMD's corporate headquarters.
[07:04] <selim_a> sudo = superuser do
[07:04] <digits> HymnToLife: Yeah, and preferrably without any user interaction
 how i do them
[07:04] <[WaZ] > digits: pull the plug?
[07:05] <digits> [WaZ] : hehe
[07:05] <[WaZ] > digits: what problem are you trying to solve?
[07:05] <selim_a> smbmount //SERVERNAME/SHAREDNAME /mnt/location -o lfs,guest
[07:05] <Ks_Jeppe> hey guys... I'm new to unbuntu (actually haven't started using it yet), and i'm having some problems burning the dvd iso... When i try to add it in Nero, it says that the file is larger than 2 gig and therefore can't be stored in an ISO system. Any idea what i should do? :)
[07:06] <digits> [WaZ] : I'm trying to make a foolproof surfstation for my father, it's on an ancient computer - thus gnome is out of the picture
[07:06] <manopulus> hello, i've installed Feisty and so happy :) but - i have made openvpn connection in network manager and cannot be connected (but can with same files by sudo openvpn --client config.ovpn). what i can dig and where?
[07:06] <selim_a> gazuu: sudo smbmount //SERVERNAME/SHAREDNAME /mnt/location -o lfs,guest (for everyone accessed drive)
[07:06] <[WaZ] > digits: gotcha
[07:06] <fiXXXerMet> I really like how Evolution ties in with the Ubuntu calendar/clock, except that I hate Evolution.  Is there a way to tie in Thunderbird or something similar with it?  Or any alternative calendar/task/memo program that can interface with the ubuntu clock/calendar?
[07:06] <digits> [WaZ] : This far I'm running pekwm for him wich autoload firefox on start (and i'm also using mingetty to autologin and start x for him on boot)
[07:07] <miles_> Hi there !
[07:07] <[WaZ] > digits: you could use gdm without gnome
[07:07] <digits> [WaZ] : Now I want the computer to halt when he exits X, without and user interaction
[07:07] <[WaZ] > digits: and set up Windowmaker or something
[07:07] <joea65> n0cTurNuLL: the ubuntu live CD would run slowly (it needs 256MB ram), but xubuntu only needs 128MB.
[07:08] <burkmat> When trying to use ./configure - "configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses". Anyone know if this has something to do with the specific stuff i'm compiling or if it's the script itself?
[07:08] <miles_> I got a problem: i tried to install an icon theme, but it didn't work and my session no longer starts (it displays the splash and stays here). I tried to remove ~/.gnome and ~./.gnome2 but it didn't fix anything
[07:08] <miles_> How could I revert to the defaut Ubuntu icon theme?
[07:08] <selim_a> makesur libcurses is in installed or in PATH
[07:09] <roadfish> I know that I can hot-swap USB-drives. Can I also hot-swap external eSATA drives? Or do I need to power-down before plugging in the eSATA drive?
[07:09] <n0cTurNuLL> so i must go for xubuntu  to install in my laptop??
[07:09] <digits> [WaZ] : yeah, if feels overkill to install 30megs of apps for an auto-shutdown...
[07:09] <burkmat> selim_a, and what exactly is "libcurses"? Is it something I can download or is it unique to the software I'm compiling?
[07:09] <dnl> When the LiveCD is customized, are all these customizations installed when the LiveCD is used for a hard drive installation?  (i.e. are the entire /usr and /etc copied to the hard drive, complete with any and all changes?)
[07:09] <digits> [WaZ] : is it possible to "stack" commands in xinitrc or something?
[07:09] <[WaZ] > digits: true
[07:09] <Mnemonica> Query: what are the advantages of dual booting a windows os and ubuntu os? I have the ubuntu live cd, and I like it.... I suppose I'd just like to mess around with it the os, simply because I'd like to introduce myself to linux...  But I suppose I don't understand why I'd want to dual boot them both from my hard-drive.\
[07:09] <n0cTurNuLL> joea65 so i must go for xubuntu  to install in my laptop??
[07:10] <selim_a> burk: find / -name "libcurses" -print
[07:10] <nightsun> Does anyone know how or if there is a way to make sound output louder than max volume on MacBook with 6.10? OS X seems to have louder max volume than linux has.
[07:10] <n0cTurNuLL> joea65: so i must go for xubuntu  to install in my laptop??
[07:10] <[WaZ] > digits: I have never tried
[07:10] <joea65> that or kubuntu
[07:10] <n0cTurNuLL> ok thanks a lot joea65
[07:10] <digits> [WaZ] : well, gonna have a beer and be a tad social with the folk... then on with the carnage ;P
[07:10] <joea65> yup
[07:10] <[WaZ] > digits: lol have fun
[07:11] <burkmat> selim_a, find didn't return anything useful... Any chance the extract forgot a file or something?
[07:11] <joea65> if/when i fix my 9 year old Gateway solo 2300 laptop... (yeah) i'm going to put xubuntu on it
[07:11] <bigjohnto> any ideas
[07:11] <joea65> it's pentium I
[07:11] <bigjohnto> how to process mimedefang mail queue
[07:11] <bigjohnto> please?
[07:12] <selim_a> burk hang on
[07:12] <Aaronformchina> hi
[07:12] <burkmat> Ok
[07:12] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks a lot everyone ima catch some sleep
[07:12] <Aaronformchina> could you help me install compiz on dapper?
[07:12] <[WaZ] > joea65: not sure your old comp is powerfull enough
[07:12] <n0cTurNuLL> thanks a lot, joea65, [WaZ] 
[07:12] <[WaZ] > n0cTurNuLL: no problem
[07:13] <Aaronformchina> I've got xgl work. but cann't apt-get install compiz............
[07:13] <joea65> [WaZ] : seriously? jeez... maybe DSL then
[07:13] <joea65> it runs win98 just fine
[07:13] <joea65> maybe i'll reinstall that
[07:13] <Mnemonica> I repeat! What are the advantages of dual booting a windows os and ubuntu os? I have the ubuntu live cd, and I like it.... I suppose I'd just like to mess around with it the os, simply because I'd like to introduce myself to linux...  But I suppose I don't understand why I'd want to dual boot them both from my hard-drive.
[07:13] <joea65> HAHAHAH
[07:13] <craigbass1976> trying to get lamp up and running on my laptop to use in test driving something.  I have apache2, php4, and mysql-server5 installed.  What's left?  I get an error when navigating to install.php in my browser.
[07:13] <[WaZ] > joea65: try xubuntu
 the smb share only work as a root
[07:13] <[WaZ] > joea65: not sure thats all ;-)
[07:14] <Aaronformchina> could you help me install compiz on dapper?
[07:14] <[WaZ] > joea65: don't be mean to your old comps
[07:14] <gazuuu> and with the users ask for passwd every time
[07:14] <Bluedog> Mnemonica: How about the fact lots of games wont work in linux? :)
[07:14] <joea65> :)
[07:14] <[WaZ] > joea65: install vista ;-)
[07:14] <joea65> oh yeah, forgot about that one
[07:14] <craigbass1976> Mnemonica, You could just take the plunge and wipe windows.  Most people keep windows around for gaming or other apps thatdon't have a linux alternative
[07:14] <joea65> as long as i find a big enough flash drive for speedbooster
[07:14] <[WaZ] > Mnemonica: Try getting SPSS to run in linux ;-)
[07:14] <joea65> i should be fine!
[07:15] <Mnemonica> bluedog: Hmm... That's a pretty fine point. I actually hadn't thought of that out of all things.
[07:15] <selim_a> Burk: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libdevel/libncurses5-dev
[07:15] <[WaZ] > joea65: youll be fine, not your computer ;-)
[07:15] <joea65> i still have windoze, and i haven't gone back to it...
[07:15] <joea65> :)
[07:15] <jusama14> i used package manager to install wine
[07:15] <joea65> yup
[07:15] <Bluedog> Mnemonica: MS Office doesnt work perfectly I don't think either, there arelinux alternatives though...
[07:15] <tuxmaniac> !sha256sum
[07:15] <burkmat> selim_a: Thank you very much ^^
[07:15] <jusama14> but how do i launch wine??
[07:15] <Aaronformchina> could you help me install compiz on dapper?
[07:15] <joea65> OOO
[07:15] <Bluedog> I keep windows around just in case
[07:15] <Mnemonica> So why have linux?
[07:15] <joea65> s/OOO/OpenOffice.Org
[07:15] <joea65> because it doesnt crash
[07:15] <Mnemonica> heh.
[07:16] <Bluedog> Reliability, different software, more efficient
[07:16] <joea65> since december, i got about 30 BSODs with winxp
[07:16] <jusama14> anyone know how to launch wine after installing it usine package manager?
[07:16] <Toma-> Mnemonica: no-ones telling you to use it.
[07:16] <[WaZ] > Mnemonica: the thousands of free apps? The control you get over your system?
[07:16] <Bluedog> Customisable :)
[07:16] <PriceChild> jusama14, wine /path/to/app.exe
[07:16] <selim_a> gazuu: it's generally a command only root would issue
[07:16] <burkmat> ver
[07:16] <joea65> oh, and apt-get is great!
[07:16] <burkmat> Oops...
[07:16] <genii> Bluedog shame! OpenOffice is *better* than MS Office!
[07:16] <Bluedog> :D
[07:16] <Aaronformchina> I want windows because I can't figure out ubuntu..........................................
[07:16] <farflungfish> jusama14:  wine *.exe
[07:16] <jusama14> wine/path?? how do i get there?
[07:16] <joea65> what's to figure out?
[07:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sha256sum - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:16] <Bluedog> Aaronformchina: What dont you get? :/
[07:16] <[WaZ] > genii: but but the ribbons!
[07:16] <joea65> s/start menu/applications
[07:16] <CoRnJuLiOx> jusama14: head for the console and type in 'wine *path to the installer of the program you want to install*'
[07:17] <Aaronformchina> Bluedog, I've got xgl work.
[07:17] <joea65> click the top left instead of bottom (but that can be changed)
[07:17] <jusama14> i've already installed the app
[07:17] <genii> [WaZ] : Hah! Weakling! ROFL
[07:17] <Aaronformchina> Bluedog, and start to install compiz and compiz-gnome
[07:17] <[WaZ] > genii: lol
[07:17] <Mnemonica> Alrighty then... I suppose it's just something that I've got to install and find out about.
[07:17] <joea65> oops
[07:17] <jusama14> just trying to launch wine so i can browse to program files
[07:17] <Bluedog> Aaronformchina: Uh huh?
[07:17] <PriceChild> jusama14, for example if you have an exe called "application.exe" in your home directory, then it would be "wine ~/application.exe"
[07:17] <Aaronformchina> Bluedog, sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-gnome. it pops   compiz: Depends: compiz-plugins (>= 0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:17] <Toma-> Mnemonica: now youre on the right path :)
[07:17] <baktaah> Does Americas Army work on Linux, and if so could someone give me some information on how it works out (glitches or hard to install)?
[07:18] <Mnemonica> ^_^
[07:18] <jusama14> pricechild, any way i can navigate to the program files directory?
[07:18] <PriceChild> Aaronformchina, compiz/beryl are NOT for beginners. support in #ubuntu-effects
[07:18] <[WaZ] > jusama14: in your .wine folder
[07:18] <Mnemonica> Well, I'll be back then... I'll install it from the live cd.
[07:18] <jusama14> lol where is that?
[07:18] <Mnemonica> Toodles.
[07:18] <PriceChild> jusama14, jusama14 on an existing partition or wine's fake folder?
[07:18] <[WaZ] > ~/.wine/
[07:18] <craigbass1976> Mnemonica, have fun.  Takes less than an hour
[07:18] <jusama14> wine's fake folder
[07:18] <Aaronformchina> Bluedog, finally I say: sudo apt-get install compiz compiz-gnome compiz-plugins compiz-core csm
[07:19] <jusama14> i guess
[07:19] <jusama14> i just double clicked on the app
[07:19] <[WaZ] > its njot fake, its hidden
[07:19] <jusama14> and it said that it'll install on program files
[07:19] <genii> jusama14: I think you're under the mistaken belief that wine allows you to now browse to your windows applications you had under the other partition and run them like that
[07:19] <craigbass1976> trying to get lamp up and running on my laptop to use in test driving something.  I have apache2, php4, and mysql-server5 installed.  What's left?  I get an error when navigating to install.php in my browser.
[07:19] <Bluedog> Aaronformchina: They will help you more that I can, in #ubuntu-effects
[07:19] <PriceChild> jusama14, what app are you trying to use?
[07:19] <joea65> haha .folders ARE fake!
[07:19] <lHck> any way to start GDM without start local display ?
[07:19] <Aaronformchina> Bluedog, they say: Depends: compiz-core (>= 0.0.13.54) but 0.0.13.38-0ubuntu3 is to be installed                  Depends: csm (>= 0.5) but it is not installable
[07:19] <joea65> :p
[07:19] <jusama14> a game
[07:19] <jusama14> counter-strike
[07:19] <Aaronformchina> Bluedog, they are sleeping. :(
[07:19] <Toma-> baktaah: http://tinyurl.com/2d9o5v
[07:19] <Aaronformchina> PriceChild, ....
[07:19] <Intangir> where do i find the mouse cursor icons on linux..? like i want to find some of the cursors icon files
[07:20] <[WaZ] > jusama14: where is that game installed?
[07:20] <Aaronformchina> Bluedog, OK. thanks . try there
[07:20] <jusama14> it says, c:/program files/Valve
[07:20] <jusama14> when i was installing it
[07:20] <Bluedog> Aaronformchina: sorry, good luck :)
[07:20] <sandig> i want to install ubuntu on a machine which can only boot from a floppy and has no cd drive. i have a large usb drive so i guess i just need a boot floppy to kick things off. any ideas?
[07:20] <[WaZ] > jusama14: how did you install it?
[07:20] <jusama14> i just double clicked on the exe
[07:20] <jusama14> and it booted up
[07:20] <[WaZ] > in linux?
[07:20] <joea65> anyone know much about repairing a Gateway Solo 2300?
[07:20] <sayers> I have a MAJOR problem... LMSensors can not find my fan, which according to the forums, for my machine, is the only way to fix my fan problem....
[07:20] <beoba> hi, i'm running feisty, how do i disable "that command was not found, install this package to enable it" when an unknown command is run at a prompt?
[07:21] <lHck> anyone let me know how to start GDM without a local graphics interface ?
[07:21] <LjL> !feisty > beoba    (beoba, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:21] <genii> [WaZ] :  "IN LINUX" WAS THE CRUCIAL QUESTION
[07:21] <lHck> allow XDMCP remote session
[07:21] <LjL> beoba: uninstall the "command-not-found" package
[07:21] <genii> Sorry, capslock by mistake
[07:21] <[WaZ] > genii: i was trying to get him to say that
[07:21] <beoba> okay
[07:21] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[07:21] <[WaZ] > genii: don't mind me i like the ribbons! :D
[07:21] <zulfajuniadi> beoba: yes,  lmsensors does not support all motherboards, i'm using asus, and it doesn't support mine :(
[07:21] <PriceChild> sayers, have you run sensors-detect ?
[07:22] <genii> heh
[07:22] <jansson_> hej
[07:22] <sayers> PriceChild, Yes and it couldnt find any fans
[07:22] <PriceChild> sayers, how is a sensors program going to fix any fan problems?
[07:22] <sayers> PriceChild, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75972
[07:22] <Bluedog> sayers: Can you find them in windows?
[07:22] <jansson_> hej e det en svensk
[07:22] <[WaZ] > jusama14: to run a windows program in wine, you have to install that program using wine in linux
[07:22] <Bluedog> Sure they are detectable/controllable?
[07:22] <genii> PriceChild: Because it's those sensors on your motherboard which report when to tutrn the fan on and off according to temperature there and so on
[07:22] <jusama14> yeah that's what it did i guess
[07:23] <sayers> Bluedog, The problem is my fan runs at full speed on Ubuntu, but on windows it was scaled .
[07:23] <fbn> how can I enable the new Gnome start menue? (the novell one)
[07:23] <fbn> on feisty
[07:23] <[WaZ] > jusama14: okay then it should be in your ~/.wine folder
[07:23] <PriceChild> genii, but its not lm-sensors that's used afaik...
[07:23] <jerb> durring the apt-get upgrade my system keeps getting seg faults durning the unpacking of libc6_2.4-1 any one have any ideas?
[07:23] <jusama14> where is that?
[07:23] <sayers> Bluedog, Might be something in my Bios but I'd think Ubuntu could fix it
[07:23] <genii> PriceChild: If I recall correctly it's libsnsors3
[07:23] <zulfajuniadi> fbn: is there such a thing, where did you see it?
[07:24] <genii> libsensors3 rather
[07:24] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[07:24] <[WaZ] > jusama14: nautilus ~/.wine/
[07:24] <samurayx> hi, i have problems mounting samba shares
[07:24] <jusama14> i type that into terminal?
[07:24] <[WaZ] > jusama14: press alt-f2 then nautilus ~/.wine/
[07:24] <Bluedog> dealc: Can you write to them from /any/ machine?
[07:24] <mweichert> hi! I'm trying to preseed my ubuntu installations with my NetworkManager configuration.  What configuration files does NetworkManager modify?
[07:24] <Bluedog> dealc: have you checked permissions?
[07:24] <samurayx> who can help me?
[07:24] <fbn> zulfajuniadi: I had it on breezy but with unofficial packages. I heard that it's in the repos on feisty
[07:24] <fbn> zulfajuniadi: but i can not find/enable it
[07:24] <dealc> Bluedog: How do I check permitions
[07:24] <Intangir> where do i find the mouse cursor icons on linux..? like i want to find some of the cursors icon files
[07:24] <Bluedog> samurayx: Tell us the problem then maybe somebody can help :)
[07:25] <samurayx> i can mount in fstab
[07:25] <samurayx> using a root account
[07:25] <[WaZ] > jusama14: then its in drive_c
[07:25] <samurayx> but when i try to mount using a user accoun
[07:25] <jusama14> yeah
[07:25] <fiXXXerMet> Is there a way to tie in Mozilla Sunbird with Ubuntu's calendar/clock, the way Evolution is?
[07:25] <jusama14> i see it
[07:25] <jusama14> i see the game
[07:25] <samurayx> it every time ask me for the password
[07:25] <jusama14> but when i try to launch it
[07:25] <tomy-ds> hi how do i setup a dns server
[07:25] <jusama14> it asks if i want to debug it
[07:26] <Bluedog> Dealc: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=305039
[07:26] <Bluedog> see if this helps you
[07:26] <[WaZ] > jusama14: try #winehq
[07:26] <EADG> Will the www.cnr.com plugin work with Dapper when they go live? (Can't check DHCP web site DHCP is down)
i try as i read in ubuntu.comjunity
[07:26] <zulfajuniadi> fbn: whats the difference anyhow?
[07:26] <sayers> PriceChild, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75972 According to this I have the same errors, Acpi cant be found and all that great stuff.
[07:26] <samurayx> i try to vi /etc/samba/user
[07:26] <tomy-ds> hi how do i setup a dns server
[07:27] <PriceChild> sayers, hmm.... but I didn't realise acpi was related to lm-sensors... I thought they were seperate. Anyway...
[07:27] <Intangir> ok i found the icon files, but they arent recognized as being openable
 but i dont know how to save the file
[07:27] <fbn> zulfajuniadi: huh? the new gnome menu from novell is a huge difference to the default gnome menu
[07:27] <PriceChild> sayers, so you've run sensors-detect, told it to add modules on load
[07:27] <PriceChild> sayers, then rebooted/ probed required modules
[07:28] <sayers> PriceChild, Yes but it couldn't find any fans.
[07:28] <genii> tomy-ds: Your machine needfs some dns info to connect to your ISP, or you are running a Domain Name Serverver of your own?
[07:28] <PriceChild> sayers, then run the next command, and finally when you try and use fancontrol it says there's nothing?
[07:28] <zulfajuniadi> EADG :yes, it should work for all ubuntu releases
[07:29] <EADG> :)
[07:29] <jusama14> lol wish someone was there
[07:29] <dm_>  there is a section in Add/Remove programs that says "xilisoft" how do i get rid of that
[07:29] <tomy-ds> no i just want to setup my own dns
[07:29] <Bluedog> samurayx: Are you doing sudo vi yes?
[07:30] <Bluedog> If you dont like vi, try sudo nano, its a little nicer
[07:30] <zulfajuniadi> EADG: seriously, i cant wait for it to come out. i have tried cnr before. its really good.
[07:30] <Bluedog> ctrl-o saves, all the shortcuts are at the bottom of the window..
[07:30] <voraistos> hey have u seen that ? apple will charge more for emi's tunes without the DRM !!!
[07:30] <samurayx> yes i am on root account
[07:31] <jerb> durring the apt-get upgrade my system keeps getting seg faults durning the unpacking of libc6_2.4-1 any one have any ideas?
[07:31] <EADG> zulfajuniadi: I looked at the site a couple days ago... I'm really looking forward to it too... if only for the user recomendations and ratings.
[07:31] <Intangir> i need a mouse cursor viewer
[07:31] <Intangir> that lets me view all my mouse cursor files
[07:32] <dogmeat> is there fax software so that i can receive faxes from this computer, which has a modem?
[07:32] <Chadwick359> Hey, can anybody give me the switch to do version updae from term?
[07:32] <dnl> When the Live CD is installed during a regular installation, is the entire contents of the cloop image copied to the hard drive?
[07:32] <voraistos> jerb: unpacking something should not create seg faults. it is possible that dpkg had compiling errors
[07:32] <coty> is there a programe that can read prx extentions
[07:32] <jerb> voraistos: something like Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ?
[07:33] <sogen> http://www.virango.pl/node/996?terms=kredyt%20hipoteczny+zegarki+rower+kredyty+zakopane
[07:33] <shwag> how can I get a description of package before installing it with apt-get ?
[07:33] <tomy-ds> how do i setup a dns server
[07:33] <mathrick> hi, why doesn't Feisty let me eject mounted CDs anymore? It was there in edgy, and disappeared in feisty
[07:33] <mathrick> pretty annoying
[07:33] <voraistos> jerb: thats not a seg fault :P
[07:33] <Intangir> i need a mouse cursor viewer, that lets me view all my mouse cursor files
[07:33] <zulfajuniadi> EADG: i actually like the 1-click install. it lets you do multiple installation with just one click...
[07:33] <jerb> voraistos: I know that was the error from dpkg
[07:34] <jerb> voraistos: dpkg: warning - old post-removal script killed by signal (Segmentation fault)
[07:34] <PriceChild> sayers, after a reboot "sensors" gives output on various temperatures correctly?
[07:34] <sayers> PriceChild, Let me reboot then
[07:34] <deepfreez> ! wime
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <tomy-ds> anyone who can help me to setup a dns
[07:34] <benkong2> anyone know how to update the SLED menu with newly installed apps in Edgy?
[07:34] <Cesare> my eciadsl connection is stopping on waiting for ppp0...
[07:34] <voraistos> jerb: i dunno whats going on, but dont mess up with libc, if you do, then you can format and reinstall.
[07:35] <Cesare> i can use the connection but it goes up and down
[07:35] <Cesare> any solution?
[07:35] <mzuverink> I repartitioned my drive to include a seperate partition for /home.  Now how do I put /home on that new partition?
[07:35] <EADG> zulfajuniadi: finding cool programs like iFTop & HTop will be _alot_ easier. One click will make post-loading a fresh install a breeze too.
[07:35] <jerb> voraistos: it is on an install, after installing the base packages then I get theat running apt-get upgrade
[07:35] <jerb> s/theat/that
[07:35] <PriceChild> Cesare, I found I had to do a "sudo su -" then start eciadsl instead of "sudo foo" back when i used it... how are you trying to start it?
[07:36] <voraistos> jerb: it seems dpkg failed to do something at some point, and then you try to "force" it to continue or something like that.
[07:36] <Cesare> nothig special i'm just trying with eciadsl-start
[07:36] <jerb> voraistos: ok something like apt-get -f upgrade ?
[07:36] <B123> what's better? Compiz or Beryl?
[07:36] <Cesare> could be a synch problem?
[07:36] <mzuverink> Beryls
[07:36] <voraistos> jerb: i dont get what youre trying to do ...
[07:36] <deepfreez> ! wine
[07:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:37] <cX-kads> is there a way to start the live cd without a gui like gnome or KDE
[07:37] <voraistos> jerb: i havent touched ubuntu for a while, i dont even know if the new version was released yet :P
[07:37] <B123> right now im using the compiz that just came with ubuntu so beryl would be better?
[07:37] <cX-kads> I am using xubuntu live cd but my old laptop still can't handle it
[07:37] <voraistos> jerb: after a fresh install you should apt-get update, not upgrade
[07:37] <lajos> anybody knows is it possible to use utorrent on my ubuntu?
[07:37] <efface> anyone here know how to get linux to recognize and mount a nforce4 strip raid configuration ntfs
[07:37] <cX-kads> lajos use wine
[07:37] <mathrick> lajos: yes
[07:38] <mzuverink> B123, I think so, more features and stuff like eyecandy
[07:38] <voraistos> lajos: wine, but u should find another nice lient
[07:38] <lajos> ok thanks
[07:38] <mathrick> lajos: it works very well, save for a file DnD bug (which I'm writing a patch for)
[07:38] <cX-kads> is there a way to start the live cd without a gui like gnome or KDE I am using xubuntu live cd but my old laptop still can't handle it
[07:38] <B123> alright, also the compiz likes to leave little lines on my desktop from time to time, and if i dont like beryl i can just go back!
[07:38] <jerb> voraistos: hmm that may be my problem. not a ubunto user here just trying to trouble shoot.
[07:38] <voraistos> jerb: ure not using ubuntu ?
[07:38] <jerb> voraistos: yes I am
[07:38] <mathrick> lajos: but be sure to use 0.9.33 (wine that is), otherwise it'll cause seizures by blinking
[07:39] <GekiBlue> Something I've been wondering about, I have some DVDs I put files on when I was still on windows, and I made them multi-session... Will I be able to add to them from Ubuntu?
[07:39] <tomy-ds> anyone who can help me to setup a dns
[07:39] <mzuverink> Anyone know how to move /home from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hda3?  Im really stuck
[07:39] <jerb> voraistos: after update then what?
[07:39] <mathrick> mzuverink: what's the problem?
[07:39] <lajos> wine 0.9.33 is the latest?
[07:39] <mathrick> yes
[07:39] <lajos> ok
[07:39] <s1ryn> mzuverink, mount the drive and copy the home to the new partition
[07:39] <Pelo> lajos,   0.9.34
[07:40] <mathrick> mzuverink: copy home over (mounted at another mountpoint), then change fstab and remount
[07:40] <freddy> golla
[07:40] <lajos> all right
[07:40] <mzuverink> mathrick, I repartitioned my drive to make a /home now I do not know how to move it there or how to tell linux its moved
[07:40] <jerb> voraistos: after update then run upgrade?
[07:40] <voraistos> jerb: apt can be a pain when it fails, but what i would do is: clean up apt by unselecting all repos, then there must be some clean up option (check the man page), then reactivate the repos and then run sudo apt-get update.
[07:40] <mathrick> Pelo: .34 is out? I didn't even notice :)
[07:40] <voraistos> jerb: clean up the cache as well
[07:40] <mathrick> mzuverink: have you copied the data?
[07:41] <jerb> voraistos: ok
[07:41] <Pelo> mathrick,   middle of last week,  the ubuntu package got uploaded yesterday
[07:41] <mzuverink> mathrick, what about the ftp user in /home, will I be able to do that?
[07:41] <piglit> hello there i am trying to install a tv-card but if i start tvtime -v i get the videoinput: Using video4linux2 driver 'cx8800', card 'UNKNOWN/GENERIC' (bus PCI:0000:01:08.0).           error when i try to do(as discribed here: http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/problems.html#undetected   point 6):          sudo modprobe -v cx8800 card=12    i get a error:    FATAL: Error inserting cx8800 (/lib/modules/2.6.15-28-386/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88
[07:41] <piglit> /cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)         does annyone know what to do ? i tried modinfo and there is no card option listed there while the howto tels me there must be a card option
[07:41] <jerb> voraistos: I ran the update and it exited clean.
[07:41] <mzuverink> mathrick, no, wanted to make sure I didn fsck up , so I thought Id ask first
[07:41] <voraistos> ok. do you actually need to upgrade ?
[07:41] <mathrick> mzuverink: hmm? you just do sudo cp -a /home/* /mnt/newpart/
[07:41] <voraistos> jerb
[07:42] <Pelo> piglit,  did you consult the forum for info ?   try searching for your card model and number
[07:42] <jerb> voraistos: ya
[07:42] <deepfreez> sorry i don't understand how i can install driver for video , i have Geforce N7600 Gs
[07:42] <tomy-ds> anyone who can help me to setup a dns
[07:42] <mathrick> mzuverink: then you verify stuff (I can give you a script I wrote the last time I did that)
[07:42] <muysa> im trying to install ubuntu server edition, is there a way to do it without having to load the live test in 6.10
[07:42] <voraistos> jerb: ok so now you can/ should be able to run apt-get upgrade.
[07:42] <iGama> Hy
[07:42] <piglit> Pelo: yes i did i tried google for more then 10 hours now ... and i posted my question on 2 forums but no one seems to react
[07:42] <mzuverink> mathrick, ok, trying now...
[07:42] <mathrick> mzuverink: and then, if everything is intact, you just change mountpoints around (whilst logged out, it's unhealthy to do this otherwise)
[07:42] <muysa> i got a p2 and it doesnt load the desktop enviorment, and i need just the server edition
[07:43] <jerb> voraistos: ok Ill ty
[07:43] <mzuverink> mathrick, thanks
[07:43] <Pelo> tomy-ds,   be patient,  ppl here a volunteers who help with what they know,  and the level of knowledge varies at different tiped of day,
[07:43] <mathrick> mzuverink: no problem
[07:43] <jerb> voraistos: same error
[07:43] <Pelo> different times of day
[07:43] <jerb> voraistos: any idea where the apt cache is?
[07:43] <muysa> anybody know?
[07:44] <voraistos> jerb: hmmm...something related to a killed process...
[07:44] <EADG> Do apt-get, aptitude and synaptic "talk" to each other, in that each knows what the other has installed + dependancies?
[07:44] <iGama> im what to give rwx accesso to a folder only to a group, so i did chmod ug+rxw /usr/locar/folder and aded user1 to that group, when i try to execute someting on that folder has user1 i cant :S
[07:44] <voraistos> jerb. go visit man apt
[07:44] <iGama> i need to user ugo+rwx
[07:44] <Bluedog> EADG: Yes, its global
[07:44] <piglit> i cant simpely tell the driver what card i am using .... i red a howto whitch tell's me what card i have its number 12 but i cant tell the driver that ...
[07:44] <voraistos> it will tell you all about all that.
[07:44] <Pelo> piglit,  something in there might help  http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84
[07:44] <EADG> Dunke
[07:44] <jerb> ok I will, was hoping I didnt have to read. :(
[07:44] <jerb> lol
[07:44] <voraistos> and i think apt stores stuff in /etc/apt
[07:44] <jerb> voraistos: yeah i found /etc/apt
[07:44] <lajos> my last question "now" :) i have fujitsu siemens amilo m1437G -ATI mobility X700 card- Can i use compiz? I nver tried yet
[07:45] <voraistos> jerb: dont remove anything that is not .deb !
[07:45] <Pelo> lajos,   ask in #ubuntu-effects or #compiz
[07:45] <mathrick> mzuverink: http://mathrick.org/files/verify_copy.sh
[07:45] <jerb> ok
[07:45] <cX-kads> is there a way to start the live cd without a gui like gnome or KDE I am using xubuntu live cd but my old laptop still can't handle it
[07:45] <mzuverink> mathrick, thanks
[07:45] <voraistos> lajos: you can use aiglx with the ati radeon open source driver
[07:45] <jerb> ls
[07:45] <mathrick> mzuverink: it might even have some rudimentary usage info printed if you it wrong :)
[07:46] <roadfish> #ubuntu-effects
[07:46] <razo1> How do i get my realtek alc880 sound card to work?
[07:46] <dnl> If I customize/configure a live cd, will all the changes be on the installed system when the live cd is installed to a hard drive?
[07:46] <zebuntu> join #ubuntu-french
[07:46] <lajos> ok thanks i go there
[07:46] <voraistos> lajos go visit the wiki page  called radeon or radeondriver on help.ubuntu.com
[07:47] <jerb> voraistos: /var/cache/apt/archives sound right?
[07:47] <Pelo> zebuntu,   /join  #ubuntu-fr
[07:47] <bigjohnto> again anyone know how to process mimedefang /var/spool directory seems stuck
[07:47] <zebuntu> yes thanks (i missed the '/', oops)
[07:47] <voraistos> jerb: hmmm i dunno... i have been running lfs for a while with no package manager, so.... just make sure you remove .deb only files. and dont remove directories
[07:48] <jerb> voraistos: ok so only the .deb files. rgr
[07:48] <mathrick> so, back to my question: why doesn't Feisty let me eject mounted CDs anymore? It was there in edgy, and disappeared in feisty
[07:48] <voraistos> and it should be ubuntu-fr, no ?
[07:48] <B123> omg
[07:48] <B123> you were not kiddin
[07:48] <fiXXXerMet> Sweet, looks like the Mozilla Calender package is Sunbird.  Now can this be tied into the calendar on the ubuntu task bar?
[07:48] <B123> beryl is much better
[07:48] <jerb> voraistos: then update? or upgrade?
[07:49] <jerb> df
[07:49] <voraistos> jerb nope, not yet.
[07:49] <jerb> voraistos: ok
[07:49] <Pelo> jerb,  update  updates the pakcage list,  upgrade updates the programs
[07:49] <Qball> fiXXXerMet: no
[07:49] <jerb> ahhh
[07:49] <voraistos> jerb. edit sources.list and comment everyth line with a #
[07:50] <fiXXXerMet> Qball: No?  Is there a way to?  How does Evolution integrate with it, then?
[07:50] <jerb> voraistos: every line?
[07:50] <voraistos> yep. every line
[07:50] <Qball> fiXXXerMet: the applet on the bar uses evolutions backend
[07:50] <Qball> aka eds (evolution data server)
[07:50] <fiXXXerMet> There isn't a way to make that applet work with sunbird?
[07:50] <voraistos> in /etc/apt/sources.list (im quite sure that where it is)
[07:51] <Pelo> fiXXXerMet,  evolution is part of gnome,  and so is that calender,  you can probably find a pannel-applet calendar for thunderbird
[07:51] <fiXXXerMet> Oh, I see what you mean.
[07:51] <Bluedog> I don't have a floppy, but floppy-1 shows up in all of my nautilus windows..
[07:51] <Bluedog> anyway to remove it
[07:51] <Yorgos> can anyone help me with a problem i have installing ubuntu?
[07:51] <Pelo> fiXXXerMet,  ask the ppl who make your app,  in their channel or faq or forum
[07:52] <Pelo> Yorgos,   we don't play guessing games,  just state your problem
[07:52] <voraistos> Bluedog: it seems that floppy-1 is being mouted, or has a mount point somewhere.
[07:52] <deepfreez> ! nvidia
[07:52] <anandanbu> I have installed the beta version of ubuntu 7.04 and its really awesome
[07:52] <Bluedog> yeah.. if I click it, it says unable to mount selected floppy drive : mount: /dev/ is not a block device
[07:52] <Yorgos> Pelo: i am trying to install ubuntu but when it comes to partitioning it doesnt find my HDD.i guess it is not formatted cause it is a new one.what can i do?
[07:52] <voraistos> Bluedog: actually if it is on the side bar thingy, you might be able to remove it just by pressing "delete"
[07:52] <Pelo> anandanbu,   #ubuntu+1 for feisty stuff
[07:53] <jerb> voraistos: ok
[07:53] <anandanbu> but my windows drives have not been mounted
[07:53] <jerb> voraistos: ok done
[07:53] <[WaZ] > Yorgos: it should see it, formatted or not
[07:53] <Bluedog> voraistos: tried, doesnt work :(
[07:53] <s1ryn> anyone know anything about squid_session
[07:53] <Pelo> Yorgos,   doesn'T find it at all ?
[07:53] <s1ryn> ?? #squid is asleep :P
[07:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:53] <cherva> i have a little problem activating swap
[07:53] <cherva> cherva@a21101:~$ cat /etc/fstab
[07:53] <cherva> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[07:53] <cherva> #
[07:53] <cherva> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[07:53] <cherva> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[07:53] <cherva> # /dev/hda3
[07:53] <cherva> UUID=af858113-94f1-451a-80d7-ec2e8cefd69e /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[07:53] <benkillin> I have a floppydisk utility that I need to use on a linux box to set up a RAID array with my SCSI controller. I have 2 problems: 1) the box has not flopy disk drive, can I somehow burn the flopy image to a CD and use the windows utilities on that as part of a windows boot disk to configure the array? and 2) is there a way I can set up the RAID array without using this specific utility?
[07:53] <cherva> # /dev/hda1
[07:53] <cherva> UUID=76B86BBFB86B7C8D /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:53] <[WaZ] > !paste | cherva
[07:53] <ubotu> cherva: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:53] <cherva> # /dev/hda5
[07:53] <cherva> UUID=31458131-6e53-43ba-9f25-edddb16b8745 /media/hda5     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[07:53] <cherva> # /dev/hda4
[07:53] <cherva> /dev/hda4   none   swap   sw   0   0
[07:53] <cherva> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:53] <cherva> /dev/cdemu/0    /media/cdemu0   iso9660         ro,user,noauto                  0       0
[07:53] <cX-kads> I have 64 mb of memory on my laptop how can I use the live cd on it?
[07:53] <Bluedog> cherva: stop
[07:53] <[WaZ] > cherva: STOP
[07:53] <cherva> /dev/cdemu/1    /media/cdemu1   iso9660         ro,user,noauto                  0       0
[07:54] <voraistos> jerb: ok now you apt-get update, then you reboot, then you uncomment your lines, the you run apt-get update again, apt-get upgrade and you give me the uotput :)
[07:54] <Yorgos> Pelo it says manually edit partition table and when i press next at the prepare partitions table it has no drive.no devices detected
[07:54] <Pelo> Yorgos,   boot up the live cd then  > menu > system > admin > gnome partition manager >  your hdd should be listed in the list at the right of the tool bar and you should see it in the window as well
[07:54] <[WaZ] > !paste > cherc
[07:54] <[WaZ] > !paste > cherva
[07:54] <Bluedog> my bad: /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0 <-- found this in my etc fstab
[07:54] <Bluedog> thats the problem obviously :)
[07:54] <Yorgos> let me see Pelo and tell u
[07:54] <jerb> ok you will need to hang on.
[07:54] <czajkoz> If colors don't work, and you know you're not going to use some weird non-VT compatible terminal (you most probably aren't), just say:
[07:54] <czajkoz> If colors don't work, and you know you're not going to use some weird non-VT compatible terminal (you most probably aren't), just say:
[07:54] <voraistos> cX-kads you cant, so dont try :P
[07:54] <burkmat> When trying to run Kismet it returns "FATAL: Support for capture source type 'rt8180' was not built.  Check the output from 'configure' for more information about why it might not have been compiled in." - How exactly do I recompile it WITH the proper support for rt8180?
[07:54] <Bluedog> is there a way to /refresh/ my fstab, reload it as it were?
[07:54] <dogmeat> how can i determine what my modem device is configured for?
[07:54] <czajkoz> If colors don't work, and you know you're not going to use some weird non-VT compatible terminal (you most probably aren't), just say:
[07:54] <Bluedog> commented out a line, need it to be reflected in the system
[07:54] <czajkoz> If colors don't work, and you know you're not going to use some weird non-VT compatible terminal (you most probably aren't), just say:
[07:54] <jerb> voraistos: so update; reboot ; uncomment ; update ; and upgrade?
[07:55] <voraistos> jerb: yeah :)
[07:55] <Yorgos> Pelo it says no devices detected
[07:55] <jerb> ok
[07:55] <Pelo> burkmat,   search for your error msg in the forum
[07:55] <burkmat> ok
[07:55] <Pelo> Yorgos,   how many hdd do you have on this computer ?
[07:55] <yo> hola
[07:55] <cherva> i can't activate swap  this is the output of free and fstab
[07:55] <cherva> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13548/
[07:55] <jerb> ok rebooting
[07:55] <Bluedog> Anyone know how to reload my fstab, and reflect any changes made immediately?
[07:56] <Yorgos> one.all others i have removed the power cable.but i guess the error is that it is not formatted.how can i do that?
[07:56] <Pelo> blue,  crtl + ald + backspace
[07:56] <[WaZ] > Yorgos: that is not the problem
[07:56] <_aricz> Anyone know how to change graphics-mode used in the terminal/shell ?
[07:56] <Bluedog> Pelo: That restarts the whole of X tho, is there a way to do it without logging myself out?
[07:57] <voraistos> _aricz thats in the /boot directory ....
[07:57] <Pelo> Yorgos,   ubuntu install will format befor installing, you don,t have to worry about that ,   make sure what this hdd is plugged in as a master
[07:57] <digen> Bluedog : mount -a ?
[07:57] <_aricz> voraistos: thanks:)
[07:57] <Pelo> Bluedog,  not that I know of
[07:57] <Yorgos> i am sure but i will check again and come back Pelo.thx
[07:57] <voraistos> _aricz have fun down there, and you better take a look to a vga modes page to know which resolution you want
[07:57] <Bluedog> digen: That won't unmount anything not listed though surely..
[07:57] <Bluedog> No prob anyhow, ill just reboot
[07:57] <Pelo> Yorgos,  make sure your bios sees the hdd
[07:58] <Animatic> Hello, I am looking for a filesystem that can be used with Ubuntu, Mac OS X, and Windows. It must support large files.
[07:58] <Yorgos> ok Pelo i will brb
[07:58] <Pelo> Animatic,   ext3
[07:58] <voraistos> animatic: etx3
[07:58] <Animatic> Do you know if ext3 is natively supported by OS x?
[07:58] <voraistos> shouldnt be a problem.
[07:59] <Animatic> Ok, thanks
[07:59] <Pelo> Animatic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[07:59] <dyrne> Animatic: ntfs? honestly id trust linux to handle win format before the ext driver in windows. ideally youd use fat32 id think
[07:59] <[WaZ] > ext3 is not natively supported by windows tho
[07:59] <_aricz> I just want the standard textmode, 8025..
[07:59] <voraistos> and as for windows, you can install microsoft unix services for windows. it makes windows completly posix compliant.
[07:59] <Animatic> Well, but Mac OS does not write to NTFS
[08:00] <Animatic> And I need to install drivers on ubuntu, if that's not supported
[08:00] <[WaZ] > Animatic: Id go for Fat32 aswell
[08:00] <Animatic> Fat32 does not support large files
[08:00] <voraistos> animatic unix services you can find it on the MS website, and it makes it completly native for win, and supported by MS
[08:00] <Animatic> I see
[08:00] <Pelo> Animatic,   fat32 supporst files up to 4gigs I beleive
[08:00] <Animatic> Yes, that's too small
[08:01] <dyrne> Animatic: named pipes and split is what i use but.. that isnt ideal for daily stuff
[08:01] <voraistos> Animatic otherwise there is just some kind of free tool that makes it run on windows, and as much integrated as ntfs or others, but it doesnt make the system posix compliant, which sucks.
[08:01] <Nik> first time in here, it wouldn't connect until I unticked SSL....is this okay?
[08:01] <Nik> register
[08:01] <Pelo> Nik,  we see you
[08:01] <efface> i am mounting a drive with sudo but when i use my normal user, i cannot read the drive, says i do not have permissions, i triied changing it with chown but it doesnt work, can someone tell me whats up
[08:02] <Pelo> efface,   sudo chmod  755 /path/drive/wathever
[08:02] <burkmat> Pelo, the thread told me I needed to compile Kismet from source, that's what I did. Do I have to manually add something to the source to make it accept my interface?
[08:02] <Animatic> I rarely use Windows, but I want the posibility to transfer files to that system as well
[08:02] <Animatic> and vice versa
[08:03] <Pelo> burkmat,  shoudln'T  are you sure you have all the dependencies ?
[08:03] <voraistos> hey has anyone seen jerb ? he was messing about libc, i told him to reboot and ....
[08:03] <cX-kads> how do I install ubuntu on a laptop with 64 mb ram
[08:03] <efface> Pelo: still says permission denied
[08:03] <jerb> voraistos: im here
[08:03] <slavik> how do I lock some packages to not be upgraded?
[08:03] <cX-kads> I can't run live cd on it
[08:03] <Pelo> Animatic,  you could make a  share partition in fat32 just for that purpose
[08:03] <bruenig> !pinning | slavik
[08:03] <burkmat> Pelo, If I didn't wouldn't I get the usual Error: Blahblah?
[08:03] <jerb> voraistos: im here running upgrade now.
[08:03] <voraistos> jerb: nice to see your box is not completly doomed
[08:03] <dyrne> cX-kads: only way id install ubuntu is either the server or alternate installer with that little mem. look into xubuntu
[08:03] <slavik> !pinning
[08:03] <Adam300> has anyone seen agpgart reboot a system on boot?
[08:03] <slavik> !ask
[08:04] <maxagaz> what bbs software should I use with ubuntu ?
[08:04] <voraistos> jerb: so you dont get any errors ?
[08:04] <gRaCiOsO> what is the command to munt a usb memory flash in a ubuntu hoary server ?
[08:04] <ubotu> slavik: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[08:04] <jerb> voraistos: he eh no this is my workstation
[08:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:04] <cX-kads> I am using the xubuntu live cd but donno what boot options I need
[08:04] <Animatic> I can't transfer files over 4 gigabytes to Fat32, so that would be obsolete
[08:04] <Pelo> burkmat,  the error msg told you to look at a file for more info,  have you looked at that file ?
[08:04] <craigbass1976> trying to get lamp up and running on my laptop to use in test driving something.  I have apache2, php4, and mysql-server5 installed.  What's left?  I get an error when navigating to install.php in my browser.
[08:04] <gRaCiOsO> what is the command to mount a usb memory flash in a ubuntu hoary server ?
[08:04] <slavik> ubotu is slow today ...
[08:04] <jerb> voraistos: yeah I did a bit diffrent this time
[08:04] <Animatic> I can use samba to transfer files I get any problems though
[08:04] <Animatic> if I*
[08:04] <cX-kads> dyrne: I am using the xubuntu live cd but donno what boot options I need
[08:04] <efface> i still cannot access the folder
[08:04] <jerb> voraistos: hang on Ill paste it to pastebin
[08:04] <craigbass1976> sounds like the problem might be the host name, but localhost and the actual host name both don't work
[08:04] <voraistos> kk
[08:04] <burkmat> Pelo, Where would I find the output from configure? Wouldn't that have been erased when I closed bash after running ./configure?
[08:05] <dyrne> gRaCiOsO: i usually plug it in then do dmesg| tail and if it says sda or sdb i do sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt  where /mnt can be whatever directory
[08:05] <voraistos> slavik: ubotu got raped i heard, so dont expect much for today
[08:05] <hateyla> !source
[08:05] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[08:05] <Alessandro> Hi, i have a problem
[08:06] <Alessandro> ERROR: NV-CONTROL extension not found on this Display.
[08:06] <voraistos> so do we :P
[08:06] <sogen> ho wi can restart alsa?
[08:06] <Pelo> I have to go ,  see you all later folks
[08:06] <sogen> how i can restart alsa
[08:06] <voraistos> nvidia proprietary driver  ? Alessandro
[08:06] <mjhasbach> anyone think they can help me with my wireless internet in ubuntu 6.10? I have a topic in Beginner talk and I have had to bump it twice
[08:06] <dyrne> cX-kads: i dont know the livecd sorry. id use the server installer  then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop personally.
[08:06] <cX-kads> ok thx
[08:06] <jerb> voraistos: its at http://sial.org/pbot/23947
[08:06] <Alessandro> voraistos,  i need install nvidia drivers
[08:07] <cX-kads> will do that
[08:07] <gRaCiOsO> dyrne,  it doesnt appear there
[08:07] <Alessandro> voraistos,  i have GeForce N7600 GS
[08:07] <mark489> Anyone know how I can switch openoffice.org Draw to pixel mode instead of inches?  (to make it more useful for web work"
[08:07] <cellojoe> inches are the new pixel
[08:07] <dyrne> cX-kads: note: you might need to update sources.list after install. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list; save changes after you remove the # from the urls and sudo apt-get update
[08:07] <voraistos> Alessandro i never used an nvidia card, so i cant tell, but it seems that your error is related to an nvidia driver that is already there. could be the nv open source driver.
[08:08] <dyrne> gRaCiOsO: you unplugged and replugged then right away typed dmesg| tail ?
[08:08] <Alessandro> :/
[08:08] <gRaCiOsO> dyrne,  yes
[08:08] <Adam300> what is the default root password after a fresh install
[08:08] <Adam300> to su
[08:08] <voraistos> jerb: it cant find rm
[08:08] <cX-kads> dyrne: what stuff does server cd install that I wouldn't want like apache and other servers
[08:08] <cellojoe> none
[08:08] <dyrne> gRaCiOsO: try 'ls -t /dev | head' does an sda1 or sdb1 show up there?
[08:08] <bruenig> !sudo | Adam300
[08:08] <voraistos> jerb: thats terrible
[08:08] <ubotu> Adam300: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:09] <cellojoe> sudo passwd <your new passwd>
[08:09] <Adam300> su
[08:09] <bruenig> Adam300, there is no su
[08:09] <Adam300> is much easier to do lost of things
[08:09] <jerb> voraistos: yeah I thought so also .  any idea why not??
[08:09] <Adam300> it asked for authentication
[08:09] <happytron> anyone ever have su/sudo become totally unresponsive?
[08:09] <dyrne> cX-kads: its just a slimmed down desktop install. no servers by default. only diff is the kernel so you might apt-get a new kernel later
[08:09] <Mnemonica> Alright, I'm ready to install ubuntu from the live CD, I'm at the drive partition (step five). I just got this computer about a month ago and it came with windows vista. I want to keep windows. How would I backup my hard-drive, or would you recommend it? The instal lsays its a good idea, but I'm wondering if you guys think its something to worry about.
[08:09] <jerb> ls
[08:09] <dyrne> happytron: did you change the hostname?
[08:09] <voraistos> jerb: i dont know wether rm is part of binutils or bash or something else....
[08:10] <cellojoe> Adam300: try... sudo passwd  then enter your password, then enter the new root pw
[08:10] <cX-kads> dyrne: thx
[08:10] <happytron> dyrne: no
[08:10] <voraistos> jerb however try to rm something yourself
[08:10] <gRaCiOsO> dyrne, no sdX there in ls -t /dev | head
[08:10] <cellojoe> when it says "password:" it wants the current users password
[08:10] <Adam300> alright well if you do sudo passwd
[08:10] <jerb> voraistos: all of my frikin /usr/bin is GONE :P
[08:10] <Adam300> and put your user password in
[08:10] <cellojoe> then it asks for a new one
[08:10] <Adam300> and then type a 'root' password you can su
[08:10] <cellojoe> should be able to yes
[08:11] <voraistos> jerb just by trying using rm, then /bin/rm and /user/bin rm . do the same again replacing bin by sbin
[08:11] <dyrne> gRaCiOsO: try lsusb if that doesnt show a connection id try another port. if that doesnt work.. it gets complicated
[08:11] <happytron> dyrne: if i use sudo or su, and type the password in, nothing happens
[08:11] <Adam300> oh no I mean I just did
[08:11] <voraistos> jerb
[08:11] <voraistos> what
[08:11] <cellojoe> oh, cool
[08:11] <voraistos> damn
[08:11] <voraistos> wtf
[08:11] <jerb> voraistos: lol same thing happend last time I tried muking around in there.
[08:11] <Alessandro> ! NVIDIA-Linux
[08:11] <jerb> voraistos: ok
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-linux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <voraistos> jerb: yeah thats bad
[08:11] <happytron> i think my kernel may be in a very unhappy state...
[08:11] <voraistos> jerb thats the very base of the system that is in there
[08:12] <dyrne> happytron: there is always the option of booting to recovery to fix or enable the root account. id check /etc/sudoers but to be hones i usually dont use sudo. i enable root
[08:12] <jerb> voraistos: yeah, dammit I wonder what is going on in there
[08:12] <Animatic> What about ext4?
[08:12] <jerb> centos went on just fine.
[08:12] <gRaCiOsO> dyrne,  i did it and doesnt show anything but i tryied with a cd and it the same case i thing my kernel is broke im trying to connect the usb couse there a have the new kernel source to reinstall it i dont have inet conexion ther either couse it doesnt recognize my net interfacez
[08:12] <craigbass1976> Mnemonica, I've never bothered, but you could theorectically lose everything.
[08:12] <Animatic> Anybody has any information on that filesystem?
[08:12] <happytron> dyrne: i think i will have to reboot.  like i said, su doesn't work, nor can i login as root
[08:12] <cX-kads> dyrne: another question in edgy when I put in a cd I have to mount manually with sudo, how do I get it to mount automatically
[08:12] <lesshaste> is there a repo for secondlife?
[08:13] <happytron> dyrne: whenever i try, that terminal becomes totally unresponsive
[08:13] <[WaZ] > Animatic: ext4 is uite young
[08:13] <voraistos> jerb u really have a big problem going on. i would consider reinstalling the system
[08:13] <[WaZ] > quite
[08:13] <jerb> voraistos: lol that I know
[08:13] <Bluedog> How do you find out which group a user belongs to?
[08:13] <dyrne> cX-kads: sorry my boss is giving me a funny look i have to act like im working for a while.  if im here later just /msg me or something
[08:13] <peweeh> Bluedog: sudo cat /etc/passwd | grep username
[08:13] <peweeh> should work
[08:13] <peweeh> but i don't really know :D
[08:13] <Bluedog> thanks peweeh :)
[08:13] <SlimeyPete> bluedog: cat /etc/group | grep <username> will work
[08:13] <[WaZ] > Animatic: I didn't switch from etx2 to ext3 before 2002-2003
[08:14] <Therock_> How can i get back the standard ubuntu profil for my first user?
[08:14] <Adam300> Bluedog a google search
[08:14] <jerb> voraistos: I come from RH-fedora-CentOS land and this apt-get stuff is new to me
[08:14] <gooZe> Hey guys, any of you have used patch-o-matic on Ubuntu, and succeded ?
[08:14] <voraistos> jerb thats not an apt probelm. that an usr/bin emptiness problem.
[08:14] <Mnemonica> Alright, so theoretically of course I could lose everything. But would you recommend that I backup? Or do you think that its a waste of time.
[08:14] <bruenig> goodkiwiboy, path-o-matic is...
[08:14] <[WaZ] > Mnemonica: always better to backip
[08:14] <[WaZ] > nackup
[08:15] <[WaZ] > erf
[08:15] <makhan> anyone here can help me with cross compiling for ARM
[08:15] <cX-kads> dyrne: np thx a lot for the help
[08:15] <Mnemonica> Alright then. Do I do that in windows?
[08:15] <Animatic> But it seems that ext2 is more platform-friendly. Is it adviseable to consider ext2?
[08:15] <voraistos> jerb: btw why did you talk about installing "base package" sounds like youre installing debian, not ubuntu.
[08:15] <jerb> voraistos: yeah /usr/bin was fine untill i mucked around in /var/cache/apt/whatever. same thing happend last time
[08:15] <bruenig> Animatic, what do you mean more platform-friendly
[08:15] <Animatic> Never mind
[08:15] <Animatic> I was wrong about something
[08:16] <burkmat> Trying to start Kismet. "Source 0 (keg): Enabling monitor mode for rt8180 source interface eth0 channel 6...
[08:16] <burkmat> FATAL: mode get ioctl failed 95:Operation not supported" - Interpretation from anyone who understands it?
[08:16] <crane_work> gooZe, I have not heard if it, link?
[08:16] <voraistos> jerb. thats super strange. which version are u using ?
[08:16] <jerb> voraistos: IIRC its 64 bit edgy
[08:16] <jerb> voraistos: my uname is lost or Id tell you the kernel
[08:16] <[WaZ] > Animatic: ext2 isn't journalized
[08:16] <craigbass1976> Mnemonica, do you have a usb flash drive or something you can back up to?  If you can, you can just do it from Ubuntu as long as you can read ntfs from the livecd.  I've not done it for a while, so I don't know.
[08:16] <jerb> voraistos: IIRC its 2.6.17 or somefink
[08:17] <Bluedog> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2068741
[08:17] <Bluedog> just found that
[08:17] <Bluedog> oh dear :)
[08:17] <Bluedog> lol
[08:17] <jerb> voraistos: AFK for a bit. ill be back
[08:17] <gRaCiOsO> what is the command to mount a cdrom in ubuntu hoary ?
[08:17] <sayers> PriceChild, Uh. I just like took apart my power supply and cleaned. Still loud, just a differnt sound
[08:17] <gooZe> crane_work: Netfilter.org  is a tool to patch kernel and iptables source to ad funcionality
[08:17] <gooZe> add
[08:18] <B123> When i use beryl sometimes when i go to maximize a window it lags fora moment, and idea why?
[08:18] <voraistos> jerb: i have no idea whats going on. try dling apt.deb, and remove the current apt with dpkg, install the new apt with dpkg and see how it is doing. but if after a reboot, var causes /usr/bin not to exist, then, damn i dunno
[08:18] <vieirar> Is there any way to have a sound play when emptying the trash?
[08:18] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, hoary wow. sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/whatever /mount/point
[08:18] <matjan> hi, has anyone already tried to install vmgl or perhaps even packaged it (for dapper preferably)?
[08:18] <Auhromio> hi
[08:18] <vieirar> Sound Preference does not have any way to configure this
[08:19] <B123> any ideas on how i could configre it better?
[08:19] <sayers> PriceChild,  and yes sensors now pulls up information
[08:19] <tim167> hi, can someone help me?: i was importing video and left the computer alone, when i came back apparently the battery was empty so the computer shut down, now when i try to start it up it doesnt accept my password anymore...help!!
[08:19] <PriceChild> sayers, now following the rest of the steps?
[08:19] <addams> how can i record live streams?
[08:20] <sayers> PriceChild, Doubt they will work tho :(
[08:20] <PriceChild> sayers, well yuo'll never know then?
[08:21] <arruah>      ?
[08:21] <lesshaste> is there a repo for secondlife?
[08:21] <bruenig> lesshaste, no
[08:21] <lesshaste> bruenig: :(
[08:21] <Pici> !ru | arruah
[08:21] <PriceChild> lesshaste, just download it, extract and run
[08:21] <ubotu> arruah:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:21] <bruenig> :|
[08:21] <PriceChild> lesshaste, no compilation needed
[08:21] <lesshaste> PriceChild: ok
[08:21] <sayers> PriceChild, Your right it worked :O
[08:21] <voraistos> Pici im not sure that dude was russian
[08:21] <sayers> PriceChild, I <3 your determination :)
[08:22] <tim167> my computer doesnt accept my password anymore, but i didnt change it...what can i do ?
[08:22] <AndyCR> hi, how do i tell if ubuntu is utilizing my dual core cpu correctly? system monitor in gnome only shows one cpu
[08:22] <bruenig> tim167, that sounds like a pretty big problem
[08:22] <bruenig> tim167, obviously recovering passwords should not be an easy thing to do as making such a thing easy would negate the very idea of passwords
[08:23] <baktaah> Any cool Linux games?
[08:23] <Pici> voraistos: Looked like russian/cyrillic to me
[08:23] <bruenig> !frozen-bubble | baktaah
[08:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frozen-bubble - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:23] <Qball> Is humming along with: 'It's Probably Me' - 'STING' (Hit Collection)
[08:23] <sayers> PriceChild, The only other loud fan is my Nvidia fan but that is a lot easier to fix I assume
[08:23] <PriceChild> sayers, Nope... I just remember reading instructions (and know the reasons) why t he reboot is needed.
[08:23] <bruenig> !info frozen-bubble | baktaah
[08:23] <ubotu> baktaah: frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[08:23] <voraistos> AndyCR, you dont tell, you enjoy :P default kernel supports all that.
[08:23] <tim167> bruenig: it does still accept my password in non-graphical mode...
[08:23] <PriceChild> sayers, what card?
[08:23] <Auhromio> hi room
[08:23] <Qball> hi fleshy thing
[08:24] <voraistos> Pici: it all look the same but i think that was polish. anyway, the dude doesnt talk anymore, so .... :P
[08:24] <bruenig> tim167, well use passwd to change it
[08:24] <sayers> PriceChild, Geforce 6800
[08:24] <baktaah> Any multiplayer linux games right now?
[08:24] <Pici> voraistos: oh well ;p
[08:24] <matjan> hi, has anyone already tried to install vmgl or perhaps even packaged it (for dapper preferably)?
[08:24] <PriceChild> sayers, with that beast stop complaing ;)
[08:24] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  it says kind of filesystem unrecognized
[08:24] <PriceChild> *complaining
[08:24] <voraistos> baktaah there is planeshift !
[08:24] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, well your cd is messed up then
[08:25] <PriceChild> sayers, seriously though... I'm not sure why that would be powered up so much....
[08:25] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  so what can i do?
[08:25] <tim167> bruenig hmm,i guess ai can tru,  but how could it have changed when i didnt change it ?
[08:25] <voraistos> or UT, or other free games that can be quite fun like ET and ... and ...
[08:25] <tim167> *try
[08:25] <baktaah> voraistos how much a month and is it in rep?
[08:25] <xLoial> voraistos: polish don't use kyrillic letters, lol :P
[08:25] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, get a cd that isn't screwed up
[08:25] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  but that cd works
[08:25] <sayers> PriceChild, Because Sony with their bios and such is Windows lovers due to any contract they sign forcing them to work with windows :(
[08:25] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, clearly it does not
[08:26] <motivator> adios
[08:26] <PriceChild> sayers, but nvidia isn't sony and should be fine?
[08:26] <voraistos> xLoial: they use letters that look like it, well wich are not in my char set anyway
[08:26] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  i could install dapper with that cd on yesterday
[08:26] <bruenig> gRaCiOsO, perhaps it corrupted, but I can tell you that iso9660 is the cd filesystem
[08:26] <sayers> PriceChild, And it will
[08:26] <voraistos> baktaah it wont be in rep, and planeshift, ET and others are free. PLaneshift is alpha software so its not that great but its still nice
[08:27] <stillme> hi guys
[08:27] <papillon> hello everyone
[08:27] <sayers> PriceChild, What is a good number for this : Enter the low temperature (C)
[08:27] <sayers> at which the fan should be switched off (0):
[08:27] <papillon> can some one help me about locales
[08:27] <stillme> i dont understand ubuntu firewall
[08:27] <bruenig> !firewall | stillme
[08:27] <ubotu> stillme: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[08:27] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  ok thanks
[08:27] <arruah> can some one help me about medecine ? :)
[08:27] <gRaCiOsO> bruenig,  i know the problem is the kernel now
[08:27] <stillme> if i do iptables -F  does it mean that my ubuntu is now vulnerable??
[08:27] <HeMan> Hi! How could I get feisty to get ipv6 adress from my radvd router?
[08:27] <PriceChild> sayers, I think when you start getting to 70 degrees things get dangerous, although should be safe till 100... either way my machine stays around 40 all the time
[08:27] <sayers> stillme, Firestart works great
[08:28] <voraistos> baktaah: there are many (yeah ok, some) windows games which can run on linux natively, as long as they use openGL there is no problem to port those.
[08:28] <bruenig> stillme, by default ubuntu has all the ports open so
[08:28] <sayers> PriceChild, So what should I have the low number be?
[08:28] <baktaah> anyway Im tired of MMO just want a tacical shooter
[08:28] <hub_> hi
[08:28] <stillme> i cant use firestarter with my dialup
[08:28] <PriceChild> sayers, why are you changing it?
[08:28] <HeMan> the ipv6 module is blacklisted with the comment "never load ipv6 automatically. ifupdown will do it for on request." but i can't find how to tell interfaces to get inet6 adress dynamicly
[08:28] <Mnemonica> How do i backup my hard-drive to insure that I don't lose any information while partitioning my hard-drive in order to install ubuntu?
[08:28] <stillme> it cant find my modem a huaweii wireless modem
[08:28] <papillon> i have ? caracter instead of  can someone help me?
[08:28] <bruenig> Mnemonica, you can put the files on a cd or something
[08:28] <Mnemonica> or something.
[08:29] <bruenig> Mnemonica, dvd
[08:29] <bruenig> Mnemonica, flash drive
[08:29] <bruenig> Mnemonica, another hard drive
[08:29] <PriceChild> stillme, system> prefs > keyboard and choose the correct one :)
[08:29] <stillme> so how do i make my ubuntu secure??
[08:29] <hub_> i hav e a bug in ubuntu themes found
[08:29] <bruenig> stillme, I wouldn't worry about it
[08:29] <sayers> stillme, Ubuntu is pretty secure as it is.
[08:29] <sayers> stillme, Very secure indeed
[08:29] <stillme> so i could go ahead and do iptables save??
[08:29] <PriceChild> stillme, ubuntu ships with no ports open by default and uses sudo instead of a root account. All you need to do is know what you are doing when you use sudo.
[08:30] <AlbertoP> hello
[08:30] <bruenig> stillme, just don't worry about it, go on with whatever you do
[08:30] <Rocha> hello, anyone here with a sony vaio?
[08:30] <h3x0r> hey what do i need to play a game off a CD with Wine, someone said i need a patch but not sure what they meant, a no cd patch?
[08:30] <stillme> i tried using firestarter to do internet sharing
[08:30] <Rocha> i can't change the screen brightness
[08:30] <Rocha> i have sony_acpi module loaded
[08:30] <stillme> it ended up not allowing me to browse internet
[08:30] <hub_> when i set a theme then go terminal and type gedit the come a bug "dont found color bla bla"......
[08:30] <stillme> unless i do iptables -F
[08:31] <Rocha> and brightness doesn't change writing to /proc/acpi/sony/brightness
[08:31] <stillme> so i kicked firestarter out
[08:31] <bruenig> stillme, you are probably configuring it poorly
[08:31] <fuzzy_logic> does anyone know a good alternative to ms media center for linux? so not a linux distribution, but just a program that runs under ubuntu for example
[08:31] <papillon> what i must do to get help?
[08:31] <PriceChild> fuzzy_logic, mythtv maybe
[08:31] <stillme> it doesnt list my modem that was the problem
[08:31] <fuzzy_logic> papillon: just ask a question :P
[08:31] <fuzzy_logic> PrinceChild: i understood that that is a special distribution.. right?
[08:31] <stillme> my modem is in /dev/ttyUSB0
[08:31] <sayers> PriceChild,  Where is this file : rc.local
[08:31] <stillme> i dont see it in firestarter list of modems
[08:32] <papillon> in nautilus i have ? caracter instead of  so i can't execute many scripts
[08:32] <PriceChild> sayers, /etc
[08:32] <stillme> anyways i got the internet sharing to work by doing apt-get install dnsmasq ipmasq
[08:32] <dealc> I have a problem, I can connect ot my samba shares but I can not write to them from the other side. What Can I do?
[08:32] <stillme> and everything is working fine now
[08:33] <dealc> I am using a windows machine to connect to my linux samba shares.
[08:33] <tim167> i suspect my problem isnt password related but that there isnt enough space left on harddisk to start graphica environment, how do i remove files correctly to make room? rm? or should i add an arguement to it (cant man rm because 'not enough room left on device')
[08:34] <tim167> *graphical
[08:34] <stillme> dealc set permission for the folder
[08:34] <hub_> sry for spam :::  a bug in a theme ;  Gtk-Message: (for origin information, set GTK_DEBUG): failed to retrieve property `GtkWidget::cursor-color' of type `GdkColor' from rc file value "((GString*) 0x84bf040)" of type `GString'
[08:34] <dealc> stilme: How Do I do that?
[08:34] <hub_> i type gedit
[08:34] <papillon> fuzzy_logic: i have problem with locales. the  frensh caracters are displayed as ? caracter
[08:34] <hub_> in terminal with a slim heme
[08:35] <dealc> stillme: How Do I do that?
[08:35] <stillme> where does ubuntu save iptables conf when u do iptables-save
[08:35] <stillme> use chmod
[08:36] <papillon> any one can help me fixing frensh locales. thanks
[08:36] <HeMan> found it! in interfaces i had to add "iface eth0 inet6 manual"
[08:36] <stillme> chmod 755 <your directory>
[08:37] <papillon> in nautilus i have files name displayed with ? caracter instead of  one. can any one help me fix the problem
[08:37] <stefg> papillon: are you on feisty?
[08:37] <papillon> yes stefg
[08:38] <stefg> papillon: so /j ubuntu+1, although they might simply be broken and not ready yet
[08:38] <baktaah> Is there a good java compiler that I can use ( like Jcreator, easylike)
[08:38] <stefg> !feisty
[08:38] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:39] <papillon> stefg: so what can i do
[08:39] <stefg> papillon: wait
[08:39] <sayers> PriceChild, It works :O OMG OMG OMG OMG ME SO HAPPY
[08:39] <papillon> lol
[08:39] <PriceChild> sayers, wooo well done :)
[08:39] <papillon> stefg: thank you
[08:39] <sayers> PriceChild, I have used linux for like 3 months and have always had this problem
[08:40] <sayers> PriceChild, Gonna re-configure it tho to be more perfect :)
[08:40] <rysiek|pl> guys, I have got a laptop (with an Ati - and beryl working) that I have today connected to my home LCD screen. I want to see the movie on the home LCD screen, but the movie player window is blue - the film is only shown on the laptop's screen. I remember there WAS a way to change this, butt I can't find it (googled, help.ubuntu.com'ed, etc...)
[08:40] <cX-kads> When I try to partition with a server install cd I get I/O error on hda
[08:40] <cX-kads> what can I do
[08:40] <lebron> jest tu ktos z gdyni?? ;P
[08:40] <dnl> When the Live CD is installed during a regular installation, is the entire contents of the cloop image copied to the hard drive?
[08:41] <CheshireViking> !pl | lebron
[08:41] <baktaah> Is there a good java compiler that I can use ( like Jcreator, easylike) for ubuntu?
[08:41] <ubotu> lebron: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:41] <stefg> cX-kads: buy a new drive, that is not broken? :-)
[08:41] <cX-kads> I know but its in a laptop
[08:41] <rysiek|pl> lebron: wejd na ubuntu.pl; this is an english speaking channel
[08:41] <cX-kads> is there a fix for the hdrive
[08:41] <rysiek|pl> lebron: #ubuntu.pl
[08:41] <lebron> ok ok ... sorry :] 
[08:41] <rysiek|pl> nop
[08:42] <abccba_> booting kernel vmlinuz-2.6.20-12-386 is failing but vmlinuz-2.6.20-8-386 is ok... looks like the first cant mount a partition... whats wrong?
[08:42] <stefg> cX-kads: so chances are that it'll break soon... no use in installing a new OS on it, will die anyway
[08:42] <cX-kads> stefg: I just need to see if the laptop works
[08:42] <cX-kads> stefg: I can replace the harddrive
[08:43] <stefg> cX-kads: so get the Desktop CD... that's what it is meant for
[08:43] <stefg> !download
[08:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[08:43] <cX-kads> stefg: It has only 64mb ram so can't live cd
[08:44] <cX-kads> stefg: Is there a live cd out there that uses less than 64 ram
[08:44] <stefg> cX-kads: forget ubuntu on that.... DSL might run
[08:44] <cX-kads> stefg: ok
[08:44] <cX-kads> stefg: thx
[08:45] <baktaah> What javaeditor + compiler is good for Ubuntu (easy looking GUI) ?
[08:45] <Pici> baktaah: You could try Eclipse.
[08:45] <baktaah> Pici okay just code and press compile or?
[08:45] <stefg> !feisty | abccba_:
[08:45] <ubotu> abccba_:: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:46] <reggie> siema
[08:46] <jerb> ! apt
[08:46] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[08:46] <abccba_> stefg, ??
[08:46] <Pici> baktaah: Kinda.  Once you get a project started it easy to use, plus it pulls the javadoc into it.
[08:46] <stefg> abccba_: feisty question in #ubuntu+1 please
[08:47] <reggie> how install beryl in ubuntu 6.12 edgy
[08:47] <abccba_> stefg, oh ok
[08:47] <baktaah> Pici thanks man :)
[08:47] <baktaah> Pici do u got others for C++ and C# ?
[08:47] <deepfreez> I have a problem i install " wine " and i play a game ... this game give me this error:
[08:47] <deepfreez> You have triggered a bug in the DirectX 9.0 runtime. Please install DirectX 8.1b (or later) for a fix. See Release Notes for instructions on how to obtain it.
[08:47] <stefg> deepfreez: ask in #winehq
[08:48] <sayers> PriceChild, To bad features such as Suspend don't work. :(
[08:48] <PriceChild> sayers, using binary nvidia drivers?
[08:48] <nikin> what is the console command to see the overall size of more files?
[08:48] <sayers> PriceChild, I just reinstalled ubuntu today so not yet
[08:48] <sayers> PriceChild, think if I install that Suspend will work?
[08:49] <PriceChild> sayers, no, binary drivers break things
[08:49] <_aricz> Mmmm.. apt-get rewlez! =) oh yeah
[08:50] <sayers> PriceChild, Well now that my fan works I can deal with the 1 minute boot time :)
[08:50] <sayers> PriceChild, What's the alternative to BInary Drivers?
[08:50] <nikin> is there any console command to see the combined size of more files? or just one?
[08:50] <PriceChild> sayers, a whole minute? :) The alternative to binary drivers is open source ones, which you are using right now. They just don't provide 3d acceleration
[08:51] <stefg> nikin: man du
[08:51] <sayers> PriceChild, Well I bought the card for the 3d :)
[08:51] <firsm> Hi.
[08:52] <sayers> PriceChild, Is feisty stable enough to be worth the transition ?
[08:52] <firsm> I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers on ubuntu feisty, but when I set my xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver Xorgs says (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0). Any ideas (Yes, I have the nvidia modules installed)
[08:52] <dogmeat> how do i build a kernel module in debian?
[08:52] <dogmeat> s/debian/ubuntu
[08:52] <PriceChild> sayers, feisty is not stable :) Release around 19th
[08:52] <sayers> PriceChild, I will wait then :)
[08:52] <dogmeat> have sl-modem-source, want to build a kernel module, how can i do this?
[08:52] <PriceChild> dogmeat, why do you want to build one?
[08:52] <bsp> I seem to be having trouble making grub show a splashimage for the menu. Followed the how-to step for step, even double checked the menu.lst file and all looks in order according to the how-to, but still no splash/grub menu background. Even tried different images from the package and so far the 3 I've tried doesn't work.. Any suggestions? I'm using feisty fawn beta
[08:52] <Animatic> 19th what?
[08:53] <PriceChild> firsm, how did you install?
[08:53] <dogmeat> PriceChild: cause it isn't available otherwise
[08:53] <CheshireViking> Animatic, April
[08:53] <PriceChild> dogmeat, what isn't?
[08:53] <firsm> PriceChild: apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia nivida-restricted...-lowlatency
[08:53] <Animatic> Great
[08:53] <dogmeat> sl-modem
[08:53] <firsm> PriceChild: they do load fine with modprobe
[08:54] <PriceChild> dogmeat, afaik you don't need to recompile the entire kernel... use module-assistant
[08:54] <igor> the virtualization support in feisty is Xen Source right?
[08:54] <sayers> PriceChild, Is that beryl thing really neat ?
[08:54] <igor> sayers: yes. it is
[08:54] <sayers> Sorry to keep bothering you meant that to go to all
[08:54] <PriceChild> sayers, /me loves beryl
[08:54] <sayers> igor, Think it will impress non-linux people
[08:54] <PriceChild> sayers, not for beginners
[08:55] <dogmeat> right, wasn't going to build the kernel, only trying to use module-assistant to build the sl-modem-source, but the module-assistant was failing with some diagnostics
[08:55] <igor> sayers: yeah.. will do
[08:55] <PriceChild> sayers, don't get or give the impression that beryl is stable
[08:55] <sayers> PriceChild, Well I am not a beginner, but then again not a Guru
[08:55] <igor> sayers: far from stable ;-)
[08:55] <dogmeat>  tried to build the sl-modem-source using module-assistant, but it failed, im running ubuntu, diagnostics msg was '/usr/src/modules/sl-modem/drivers/amrmo_init.c:704: error: expected ) before string constant'. that line of code is '    704 MODULE_PARM(debug,"i");' i suspected that the function macro #define MODULE_PARAM isn't defined, so i looked to see if right kernel-headers, and other packages were installed correctly for
[08:55] <dogmeat>  the m-a build environment, but can't really tell.
[08:55] <sayers> Then why would I want it :)
[08:55] <igor> sayers: its nice ;-)
[08:55] <PriceChild> sayers, support in #ubuntu-effects Some find it unstable, i find it rock soliud
[08:55] <makkk> can someone tell me what "Message from syslogd@baikal at Mon Apr  2 13:53:10 2007 ...
[08:55] <makkk> baikal kernel: [18044190.536000]  Disabling IRQ #58
[08:55] <makkk> " mean?
[08:56] <igor> PriceChild: did you have sucess running gl apps with beryl?
[08:56] <PriceChild> igor, I use nvidia's 9*** aiglx so of course
[08:56] <sayers> What one is the best, I just want to impress some people and possibly use it...
[08:56] <igor> PriceChild: and about multiple displays in a nvidia card?
[08:56] <PriceChild> igor, nvidia-settings handles that
[08:56] <igor> PriceChild: gimme a lot bugs here..
[08:56] <stefg> dogmeat: with dapper and edgy (?) you have to use the -386 kernel flavor to get the sl-modem driver to work. my Lappie's modem worked 'out of the box' with the 386 kernel, but not with generic or -686
[08:57] <igor> PriceChild: then I removed.. did you know if is it on feisty repository?
[08:57] <PriceChild> igor, beryl is in universe for feisty
[08:57] <Lord_Vader> Ok, for all of you that want to know: Feisty does only support svg panel icons so if you want to replace those icons, they should be in the svg format.. took me 3 days to figure out how to change that icon in feisty :P
[08:58] <Lord_Vader> the icon names you should look for are: start-here.svg
[08:58] <Lord_Vader> they are the ones you should replace if you want a costum icon
[08:58] <Spliffster> question: looking for a simple backup solution (scriptable) which backups a couple of unix computers over the network to an external hdd (ftp/ssh/nfs/cfis) ... what are you guys using ?
[08:58] <dogmeat> stefg: im running edgy 2.6.17-11-generic kernel
[08:59] <Animatic> Does Ubuntu support the filesystem, Mac OSx Extended (journaled) by the way?
[08:59] <sayers> I would put my money on there is somthing that does.
[08:59] <stefg> dogmeat: feisty is a building site, a.) /j #ubuntu+1, b.) don't expect anything like that to work in a beta
[08:59] <ferronica> what is Gtk-engine??
[08:59] <firsm> Hmm, anybody know where xorg is expecting the nvidia module if not in /lib/modules/...?
[09:00] <ferronica> i found it in themes
[09:00] <ferronica> !gtk
[09:00] <ubotu> GTK is the !GIMP toolkit, which forms the base of !GNOME and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI
[09:01] <Spliffster> firsm: AFAIK /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[09:01] <stefg> dogmeat: blah... got to learn to read... edgy has a 386 kernel as well
[09:01] <r3zon8> anyone familiar with the newer hp printers that use compact flash to store fonts? can i make my own compcatflash-font card by just copying over some pcl fonts to an empty card and sticking it in there
[09:01] <erisco> I need to do audio editing, slicing and dicing song tracks, what are some software packages I could use?
[09:01] <Lord_Vader> erisco, audacity
[09:02] <stefg> !info linux-kernel-image-386 edgy
[09:02] <ubotu> Package linux-kernel-image-386 does not exist in edgy
[09:02] <ferronica> Is there ay profit to upgarde ubuntu 6.06 LTA dapper to ubuntu latest not Beta???
[09:02] <erisco> Thanks Lord_Vader, I will give that a whirl
[09:02] <Lord_Vader> erisco, good luck ;)
[09:02] <ferronica> Is there any profit to upgarde ubuntu 6.06 LTA dapper to ubuntu latest not Beta??? :)
[09:02] <erisco> do you find it difficult Lord_Vader?
[09:02] <Spliffster> erisco: yes Audacity is a nice wave editor
[09:02] <Lord_Vader> ferronica, of course there is, newer is always better
[09:03] <stefg> ferronica: I'd wait until Feisty is stable and take that. To my expereince edgy isn't worth it
[09:03] <Lord_Vader> erisco, haven't used it myself but it's supposed to be really great.. like virtualdub for windows, only this one is for editing audio :P
[09:03] <crane_work> Ferronica: I would just hold out until Fiesty'
[09:03] <erisco> edgy was worth it for me, personally
[09:03] <ferronica> Lord_vader: which one is latest one
[09:03] <PriceChild> !ts | ferronica
[09:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:03] <h4wk_> Ive recently installed (today) and im on 6.10 atm
[09:03] <PriceChild> !lts | ferronica
[09:03] <ubotu> ferronica: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[09:03] <h4wk_> Worth updating to beta?
[09:04] <stefg> no
[09:04] <PriceChild> ferronica, Dapper is solid and will be supported longer than edgy
[09:04] <Lord_Vader> ferronica, like crane_work said, wait for feisty to get released (7.04)
[09:04] <Spliffster> ferronica: if you need a stable system go for dapper, if you have unsupported hardware go for edgy, if you love to play with new features and the latest&greates go for feisty
[09:04] <PriceChild> !worksforme > Lord_Vader (see pm from ubotu)
[09:04] <zulfajuniadi> wait for feisty lts then upgrade tothet :)
[09:04] <crane_work> h4wk: I would not suggest beta unless you are ok wiht your system breaking
[09:04] <crane_work> not that it will but it could
[09:04] <Villhaubuntu> Is there any way of installing Ubuntu from my cd without going to the desktop in the liveCD?
[09:04] <PriceChild> ferronica, If it ain't broke then don't fix it.
[09:05] <zulfajuniadi> i've been using it since alpha, no breakage here :)
[09:05] <Supaplex> http://www.google.com/tisp/ ahhh so nice.
[09:05] <zulfajuniadi> Supaplex: damn! i wish they had that here...
[09:05] <Lord_Vader> PriceChild, I like new drivers, that's why I told him to go for feisty when it's released :P
[09:05] <Oritemis> hello guys. Do you know a way to convert a odb (openoffice database) to a mysql database?
[09:05] <relia> Is there a good QT-based front-end to vim like gvim is to GTK?
[09:05] <ferronica> Spliffster: ok i will wait for feisty. when it going to release?
[09:05] <stefg> !feisty
[09:05] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:06] <PriceChild> Lord_Vader, please read !worksforme :) There is no reason to upgrade if everything is currently fine
[09:06] <ferronica> Spliffster: feisty is stable like dapper?
[09:06] <stefg> !schedule
[09:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[09:06] <PriceChild> ferronica, definitely not
[09:06] <crane_work> Ferronica: 2 1/2 weeks
[09:06] <zulfajuniadi> ferronica: not yet :(
[09:06] <Spliffster> ferronica: i do not know the release date of feisty .. should be soon ... check #ubuntu+1 they have up to date infos
[09:06] <PriceChild> ferronica, dapper is "LTS", feisty isn't even released. When it is released it won't be supported as long either
[09:06] <crane_work> Unless it's pushed for some reason
[09:06] <ferronica> feisty is not stable like dapper???
[09:06] <Lord_Vader> PriceChild, well, I don't agree. things could always work better. with linux especially
[09:06] <ercari_> nas
[09:06] <PriceChild> ferronica, no
[09:07] <stefg> ferronica: the kernel is still under heavy development.... expect your system to randomly break when using feisty beta
[09:07] <PriceChild> Lord_Vader, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
[09:07] <ercari_> hola a tod@s
[09:07] <Oritemis> hello guys. Do you know a way to convert a odb (openoffice database) to a mysql database?
[09:07] <Lord_Vader> PriceChild, I know
[09:07] <PriceChild> Lord_Vader, In this channel please try and save people LOTS of trouble by upgrading.
[09:07] <freezey> anybody have any experience with tivoli?
[09:08] <ferronica> PriceChild: no no  i dont use beta, i will use full release.
[09:08] <Spliffster> ferronica: well, AFAIK dapper is a more conservative release with the goal of stability over functionaliy/new features. all late releases are here to supprt more hardware, incorporate new features ... this is not the mosty secure approach. i wouldn't call it unstable but i would not like such things an a system i must rely on (like a server)
[09:08] <ferronica> PriceChild: final release of feisty is stable??
[09:08] <Lord_Vader> PriceChild, why make a new ubuntu if you don't want anyone to use it? I'm not arguing with you, just a question
[09:08] <sisplau> what is ubuntu?
[09:08] <aricz> :))
[09:08] <Jen1> hi, how do I extract  part(1).rar/part(2).rar files so it makes it an iso like it does in windows?
[09:08] <ompaul> !ubuntu
[09:08] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:08] <PriceChild> ferronica, yes, but dapper is an LTS release.
[09:08] <PriceChild> Lord_Vader, I didn't say that :)
[09:08] <sisplau> :O
[09:08] <Lord_Vader> PriceChild, k :P
[09:08] <sisplau> like windows but much better
[09:09] <crane_work> Lets help and not debate
[09:09] <ferronica> PriceChild: then you too using dapper??/
[09:09] <PriceChild> sisplau, Linux is NOT windows.
[09:09] <ompaul> sisplau, ehh wrong, nothing like windows
[09:09] <Spliffster> ferronica: all releases are stable, bt well .. what stable means will be defined by the distro and this can differ :)
[09:09] <PriceChild> ferronica, Nope I'm on Feisty :)
[09:09] <sisplau> ok
[09:09] <zea> hey, i have a big problem... i try to install the conexant driver and now i need to unistall it, but i have a error
[09:09] <sisplau> thanks
[09:09] <ferronica> PriceChild: why???
[09:09] <Oritemis> guys? do you know about odb converters?
[09:09] <PriceChild> ferronica, "do as I say, not as I do" comes to mind ;) I use feisty to find, test and help with bugs. I don't require a stable system with a graphical desktop
[09:09] <Jen1> hi, how do I extract  part(1).rar/part(2).rar files so it makes it an iso like it does in windows?
[09:09] <ompaul> ferronica, are you sure you did not come here about a year ago?
[09:09] <zea> and i cant install or remove anything
[09:10] <ferronica> ompaul: what you mean??
[09:10] <stefg> zea: sudo apt-get -f install ?
[09:10] <bruenig> Jen1, to extract rar, do unrar e whatever.rar
[09:10] <ompaul> there was a user here a year ago with that nick
[09:11] <ferronica> ompaul: if  dapper is stable and good i will go with dapper for 3 years ;)
[09:11] <stefg> ferronica: dapper is stable and good :-)
[09:12] <zea> stefg, it works..
[09:12] <ferronica> PriceChild: is there any site where i can learn about ubuntu system file. like what is etc, fstab like that???
[09:12] <ferronica> PriceChild: so that i can do some research on it
[09:12] <Villhaubuntu> can I install feisty fawn without loging on to the desktop?
[09:12] <PriceChild> ferronica, erm...
[09:12] <ferronica> PriceChild: after all linux is free to do anything
[09:12] <PriceChild> !feisty > Villhaubuntu (see the pm from ubotu)
[09:13] <ferronica> PriceChild: what???
[09:13] <PriceChild> ferronica, I don't know any guides off the top of my head sorry
[09:13] <joumetal> My friend doesn't have shutdown button in logout window. How could I add it. (dapper)
[09:13] <ompaul> ferronica, commit install read the man pages and the info pages and the look at the manuals pages on help.ubuntu.com
[09:13] <ferronica> PriceChild: can you tell me why you are using linux
[09:14] <Lord_Vader> joumetal, does he have beryl or something like it running? that could cause the shutdown button to dissapear
[09:14] <bruenig> joumetal, system>administration>login window make sure "Show actions menu" is checked
[09:14] <ompaul> ferronica, that is way off topic
[09:14] <ferronica> PriceChild: sorry
[09:15] <ferronica> ompaul: sorry
[09:15] <bzaks> Anyone else having problems with Wine since the last update? It won't run at all
[09:15] <Binuts> Bonsoir
[09:15] <bzaks> and google can't find anything on the error code
[09:15] <ompaul> !fr
[09:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:15] <[WaZ] > ! fr | Binuts
[09:15] <ubotu> Binuts: please see above
[09:15] <Binuts> sorry
[09:15] <forga> hola
[09:15] <bruenig> !es | forga
[09:15] <ubotu> forga: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:16] <Lord_Vader> lol
[09:16] <name> Hello
[09:16] <name> Where do I put truetype fonts?
[09:16] <[WaZ] > !fonts > name
[09:16] <bruenig> !info msttcorefonts
[09:16] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[09:16] <bzaks> !jp | bzaks
[09:16] <forga> hi
[09:16] <bzaks> oh that is so sweet
[09:17] <joumetal> bruenig Thanks I think it is what I am looking for.  I will mail him.
[09:17] <ferronica> how to control my 5.1 channel speakers???
[09:17] <kahrytan> Hello
[09:17] <stefg> !hello
[09:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:18] <bruenig> !hi
[09:18] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:18] <ferronica> with creative sound sound blaster audigy card????
[09:18] <stefg> ahhh!...
[09:18] <samurayx> why the smbmount put ubuntu superslow
[09:18] <bruenig> or !howdy
[09:18] <bzaks> so umm. again, anyone with any idea on wine?
[09:18] <ferronica> what is the command??/
[09:18] <ferronica> !alsa
[09:18] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:18] <stefg> bzaks:ask  #winehq ?
[09:19] <bzaks> good idea :) I just thought this might ubuntu related since you guys tell me what to upgrade
[09:19] <sayers> With compiz PriceChild I can start it when I want ?
[09:19] <stefg> wine works for me, so probably not ubuntu related
[09:19] <kahrytan> This just a help channel?
[09:19] <PriceChild> sayers, >  #ubuntu-effects
[09:19] <bruenig> kahrytan, yea
[09:19] <bruenig> h
[09:19] <zea> stefg, didn't work
[09:19] <PriceChild> kahrytan, yes. Offtopic in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:20] <bruenig> !offtopic | kahrytan for random chatter
[09:20] <ubotu> kahrytan for random chatter: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:20] <aricz> Quick question, how do I 'Switch between workspaces' using the keyboard.. ?
[09:20] <bruenig> aricz, I think you define that in system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts
[09:20] <ferronica> !compiz
[09:20] <kahrytan> This is a so much easier then ubuntu forums.
[09:20] <stefg> zea: so put your error to pastebin
[09:20] <aricz> Ouhh, thank you
[09:20] <stefg> !paste
[09:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:21] <Binuts> bye
[09:21] <Binuts> #quit
[09:22] <dogmeat> will pkg linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-11-386  work for kernel version 2.6.17-11-generic?
[09:23] <bruenig> dogmeat, probably not, why not install the generic modules?
[09:23] <kahrytan> Are Compiz and Beryl two seperate projects?
[09:23] <bruenig> kahrytan, beryl is a fork of compiz, go to #ubuntu-effects for more info
[09:24] <stefg> dogmeat: won't work. but don't be afraid to use the -386 kernel, you'll hardly notice a difference
[09:24] <kahrytan> I'm just asking if they are separate. or together. Don't need help on it.
[09:25] <eetfuk> my annoying mousepointer, it disappears when hovering over some containers.. Like the actual game part of KBounce.. Running a freshly installation of Ubuntu.
[09:25] <[WaZ] > kahrytan: seperate
[09:25] <dogmeat> stefg: how can i install/replace my generic kernel with the -386 one?
[09:25] <eetfuk> On a Fujitsu Siemens Amilio Laptop(Via)
[09:26] <stefg> dogmeat: just install the linux-image-386 meta package + restricted modules-386. you'll get a menu entry in the boot menu, with the -386 on top
[09:26] <zea> stefg, http://www.pasteserver.net/833
[09:27] <[WaZ] > eetfuk: synaptics touchpad?
[09:27] <eetfuk> yes
[09:27] <[WaZ] > !synaptics | eetfuk
[09:27] <ubotu> eetfuk: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[09:27] <eetfuk> thanks
[09:27] <dogmeat> stefg: thanks
[09:28] <pokingfun> eetfuk: wait wait... fujitsu + siemens? o.o
[09:28] <stefg> zea: have you tried to reboot?
[09:28] <[WaZ] > pokingfun: they merged
[09:29] <zea> not now.. but yerterday i have the same message
[09:30] <Jen1> ok.... let me get this straight. I can install windows xp by making a partition off of the same drive which has ubuntu install. And laster, just mount it for ubuntu to boot?...
[09:31] <eetfuk> thanks people.. So happy with my Ubuntu installation now. Had debian before.. Never got the screen drivers, power management or sound to work properly.
[09:31] <eetfuk> With Ubuntu it worked like a charm.
[09:31] <rene-> hello, iam getting "Error detected while processing /usr/share/vim/vimrc ...." every time i want to start vim 7, i didnt change anything in my vimrc files it is very weird, has anyone experienced this before?
[09:31] <mwe> Jen1: I think it will overwrite grub so you can't boot ubuntu. that is fixable, though.
[09:32] <lebron> #polska
[09:32] <stefg> zea: dpkg --force-help
[09:32] <lebron> oups :P
[09:32] <rene-> i need to issue a Ctrl-c and of course it wont read anything of my old config files
[09:32] <Jen1> mwe, I will need to restore grub, am I correct?
[09:32] <mwe> !grub | Jen1
[09:32] <ubotu> Jen1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:32] <mwe> Jen1: yeah, see the link ubotu provided
[09:32] <Jen1> mwe, you rock.
[09:33] <[WaZ] > Jen1: make sure you have a livecd to restore grub with
[09:33] <Jen1> [WaZ] : will alternate work?
[09:34] <[WaZ] > Jen1: can you access bash with alternate?
[09:34] <[WaZ] > (never used alternate)
[09:34] <Jen1> [Waz] : sorry for this, but I don't know what that is. :(
[09:34] <erisco> audacity is working like crap....
[09:34] <[WaZ] > Jen1: command line
[09:34] <sayers> ERM ! M/B Temp:    -48C  (high =  +103C, hyst =    -1C)   sensor = thermistor ?
[09:35] <erisco> all I am trying to do is cut out pieces of songs and put them together... It cannot seem to "copy" and "paste" and move bits around... at all
[09:35] <Jen1> [WaZ] : I can get to the command line through the recovery mode.
[09:35] <erisco> for example I am trying to cut out one second of a song... cannot find any way how
[09:35] <sayers> PriceChild, that is messing with my Motherboard fan, I think I have to manualy set the info for that
[09:35] <Jen1> [Waz] :... on the alternate CD.
[09:35] <mwe> erisco: using audacity?
[09:35] <erisco> yes, audacity
[09:35] <da_man_2007> '''from what i have seen on our bug report, bug that requires a gdb backtrace are quite rare''' < I wont say who is telling me this to avoid controvery atm, but its coming from a developer on another distro..I was asking about why they dont use a 'crash handler' like ubuntu and this is their reply, so I am fairly wondering if this  crash handle code is in place for nothing  ???
[09:35] <[WaZ] > Jen1: then you should be able to
[09:35] <mwe> erisco: hmm.
[09:36] <Jen1> [WaZ] : thank you... for your help.
[09:36] <[WaZ] > Jen1: run it and see if 'grub' works
[09:36] <erisco> "cut" and "copy" will not work most of the time... and no clue why
[09:36] <[WaZ] > Jen1: im 99% convinced it will
[09:36] <mwe> erisco: I wish I could help. It works for me ...
[09:36] <ubuntuEdgy> hi guys,
[09:36] <erisco> just my luck then
[09:37] <ubuntuEdgy> do i need not worry about anti virus ?
[09:37] <erisco> everything from cut to paste is grayed out...
[09:37] <NickGarvey> erisco: try a program like.. klipper or something (not sure wha the gnome equivilant is)
[09:37] <NickGarvey> ubuntuEdgy: not really, no
[09:37] <PriceChild> ubuntuEdgy, if you're on a network you may want to scan files to check y ou don't pass infected files on
[09:37] <NickGarvey> !antivirus | ubuntuEdgy
[09:37] <ubuntuEdgy> just making sure im not compromising my computer
[09:37] <ubotu> ubuntuEdgy: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[09:38] <sisplau> antivirus in linux?
[09:38] <sisplau> o_O
[09:38] <HymnToLife> sisplau, yes
[09:38] <ubuntuEdgy> yeh we all make mistakes , i just made one :)
[09:38] <HymnToLife> they're mostly needed for ail servers
[09:38] <[WaZ] > sisplau: many mail servers run on linux ;-)
[09:38] <sisplau> ah ok
[09:38] <HymnToLife> or machines Windows users copy stuff to :p
[09:39] <erisco> audacity is sucking SO much that the exit button for my tracks doesn't even work
[09:39] <Jen1> How much space should windows xp pro require plus some other 2 gb games?
[09:39] <erisco> so I have to close and open the app again
[09:39] <HymnToLife> Jen1, give it 10 G, just to be sure
[09:39] <[WaZ] > Jen1: 10-15G
[09:39] <Jen1> I see, thanks.
[09:40] <ubuntuEdgy> thanks for the straight forward answer guys ,and not bashing me on the head:-D
[09:40] <erisco> is there ANYTHING other than audacity??
[09:41] <Arrick> hey guys, with a ubuntu 6.06.1 Server LAMP install, I have ssh installed, how do I go about making it where I can put files into the dir from WinSCP? it tells me access is denied, when I try copying files to /var/www/www.arrick.org
[09:41] <MM2> How I can change characterencoding of textfile?
[09:41] <parag0n> erisco, you could try installing audacity from source
[09:42] <parag0n> Arrick, you should be able to already
[09:42] <erisco> parag0n, I don't think it is broken, I think it is just clunky
[09:42] <stefg> Arrick: sudo apt-get install openssh-server sshfs
[09:42] <parag0n> Arrick, make sure the permissions are right too
[09:42] <HymnToLife> Arrick, chown /var/www to you
[09:42] <Arrick> stefg, read the question please?
[09:42] <Arrick> HymnToLife, whats the syntax, im not used to windows.
[09:43] <HymnToLife> Arrick, sudo chown -R $(whoami) /var/www
[09:43] <wo0lverine> re
[09:43] <Arrick> and they will still be able to see the site right HymnToLife ?
[09:43] <zea> stefg, http://www.pasteserver.net/835
[09:43] <Animatic> He could use sudo cp though
[09:44] <Arrick> uhmm, you dont get good commands with winSCP there animal_
[09:44] <Arrick> Animatic, ^
[09:44] <HymnToLife> Arrick, yes
[09:44] <Arrick> ok thanks HymnToLife
[09:44] <Animatic> ok, my mistake
[09:44] <samurayx> hi
[09:44] <samurayx> how i do with slow samba
[09:44] <samurayx> ?
[09:45] <baktaah> How does one install a .bin file?
[09:45] <PriceChild> baktaah, what is it?
[09:45] <stefg> zea: well, that clamps seriously.... so maybe try what dpkg suggests? sudo apt-get install --reinstall conexant && sudo dpkg -r conexant --force-all ?
[09:45] <baz> i am having a problem with metacity and key-bindings using 7,04 feisty????
[09:45] <baktaah> PriceChild netbeans-5_5-linux.bin
[09:46] <PriceChild> baz, > #ubuntu+1
[09:46] <baktaah> PriceChild btw you dont know a SIMPLE GUI  java editor with a button that I can press for compiling
[09:46] <baz> i set the key value for command 1 to "] " as a string
[09:46] <n0cTurNuLL> where can i get beryl??
[09:46] <arke> greetings
[09:46] <baktaah> PriceChild netbeans-5_5-linux.bin
[09:46] <spiderfire> hello, anyone know how to create a floppy.img file?
[09:46] <NickGarvey> !beryl | n0cTurNuLL
[09:46] <ubotu> n0cTurNuLL: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:46] <LjL> baktaah, netbeans 5.5 will be available as a native package in Feisty, perhaps you might want to wait until it's released
[09:46] <napster> how do i get my wireless card to work?
[09:46] <baktaah> LjL nah I kinda need to program now
[09:47] <n0cTurNuLL> i mean where can i DL it??
[09:47] <LjL> and you don't know how to run the .bin file, i see. try ./filename.bin.
[09:47] <baktaah> LjL done that already
[09:47] <LjL> baktaah: and?
[09:47] <baz> then i set the command 1 key_binding command to "/usr/bin/3ddesk" when i press the key marked ]  nothing happens, ???? anyone
[09:47] <mwe> chmod +x file.bin first maybe
[09:48] <PriceChild> baz, feisty in #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <baktaah> sudo: ./netbeans-5_5-linux.bin: command not f
[09:48] <mwe> baktaah: chmod +x netbeans-5_5-linux.bin first
[09:48] <whatspy> hey, good evening, I really like workiong with "midnight commander", but the builtin editor doesn't suit my needs: I'm almost certain I can use vim instead but I don't have a clue how to proceed... ;)
[09:49] <LjL> baktaah: type  ls -l netbeans-5_5-linux.bin  please
[09:49] <baktaah> mwe Im already there as root
[09:49] <whatspy> (working
[09:49] <whatspy> (builtin Text editor
[09:49] <zea> stefg, http://www.pasteserver.net/838
[09:49] <mwe> baktaah: you need to make it executable it's not about root or not
[09:49] <baktaah> mwe OH
[09:50] <mwe> baktaah: and use tab to complete the name to make sure you get it rigt
[09:50] <baktaah> mwe got u loud and clear
[09:50] <baktaah> mwe yeah im not stupid
[09:50] <baktaah> mwe rightclick-> permission-> execute as program right?
[09:50] <mwe> baktaah: I didn't suggest you were stupid ;)
[09:50] <LjL> or just chmod +x filename
[09:50] <baktaah> No Java Development Kit(JDK) was found on this system.
[09:50] <baktaah> damn it.
[09:50] <baktaah> I got a JDK on my system
[09:50] <mwe> !java | baktaah
[09:50] <ubotu> baktaah: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[09:51] <napster> s0nix, are u here?
[09:51] <spiderfire> how do i make a floppy image .img
[09:51] <whatspy> almost there... how do we 'click' the options button in Midnight commander ?
[09:51] <spiderfire> !floppy
[09:51] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[09:51] <spiderfire> !img
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about img - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <xtknight> whatspy try clicking it with your mouse in the terminal window
[09:51] <mwe> baktaah: java -version confirms sun-java?
[09:52] <spiderfire> !image
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about image - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <whatspy> xtknight: this old buddy doesn't even have a mouse :(
[09:52] <xtknight> :O
[09:52] <n0cTurNuLL> ubotu cqn you give me the direct DL site for beryl please??
[09:53] <xtknight> n0cTurNuLL go to #Beryl
[09:53] <baktaah> mwe java version "1.4.2"
[09:53] <PriceChild> n0cTurNuLL, beryl is not for beginners. support in #ubuntu-effects
[09:53] <n0cTurNuLL> yeah i know
[09:53] <acknopper__> how can i be able to connect to my winxp comp inside network
[09:53] <mwe> baktaah: you probably need to 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and choose sun-java
[09:53] <n0cTurNuLL> but i just wanna know where can i DL it
[09:53] <PriceChild> n0cTurNuLL, then ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:53] <mwe> baktaah: that is if you're sure you already have sun-jave installed
[09:54] <baktaah> sudo update-aternatives --config java and choose?
[09:54] <mwe> baktaah: from multiverse
[09:54] <mwe> baktaah: yes
[09:54] <spiderfire> !iso
[09:54] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:54] <mwe> baktaah: how did you install sun-java?
[09:54] <baktaah> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[09:54] <mwe> baktaah: good
[09:54] <baktaah> btw...wich one is the latest?
[09:54] <LjL> n0cTurNuLL: you realize that programs, and especially software libraries that interact heavily with your system, are not simply "downloaded" by pointing a web browser somewhere, but instead repositories are used, of course.
[09:54] <mwe> baktaah: 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and choose sun-java
[09:55] <arke> i have a compaq presario v2000 laptop (broadcom wireless adapter). I'm rnning winXP, wireless works fine. i got the ubuntu CD and am trying to connect to teh wireless (I know the SSID). I fired up the network settings within ubuntu, enabled the wireless interface, set the SSID to the known value, and began hoping ... nope. :). I tried the console tools, am not too familiar with them though ... read through some man pages for the wireless tools, but failed. what are t
[09:55] <mwe> baktaah: that is the '/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/jre/bin/java' option
[09:55] <baktaah> yeah done
[09:55] <baktaah> its marked now
[09:55] <LinuxProbie> Hey, I think I blew up my xorg.conf while trying to install my nvidia card. how do I load my backup from the commandline?
[09:55] <mwe> baktaah: now run the .bin again
[09:55] <baktaah> roger that mwe
[09:56] <gooZe> hello guys im trying to patch iptables with p-o-m and layer7 patch but make spits error with connbyte.c any ideas? (Dapper drake server iptables-1.3.3, kernel 2.6.15)
[09:56] <PriceChild> !xconfig >LinuxProbie (See pm from ubotu)
[09:56] <KnowledgEngineer> hello
[09:56] <LinuxProbie> PriceChild, Will that fix X crashing?
[09:56] <baktaah> mwe suggestion on where I should install or is /opt/netbeans-5.5 fine?
[09:56] <PriceChild> LinuxProbie, the second command will help you reset it to defauts
[09:56] <mwe> baktaah: yeah that's fine
[09:57] <LinuxProbie> PriceChild, Ahh, excellent, thanks
[09:57] <mwe> baktaah: /opt is a good place to keep things that's not in the distro
[09:57] <baktaah> mwe cool
[09:57] <baktaah> but ehm
[09:57] <baktaah> How come netbeans is like 220 mb
[09:57] <Ulixes> hi
[09:57] <baktaah> Jcreator for windows was like 60 mb..
[09:57] <jatt> bloat
[09:57] <baktaah> Im not looking for something advanced.
[09:57] <Ulixes> how to know if my rendering is active?
[09:57] <baktaah> Just an editor to edit and a button to compile.
[09:58] <Ulixes> what's the command?
[09:58] <eetfuk> think that netbeans got some large Javadoc file
[09:58] <LjL> baktaah: then get an editor, not a fancy flagship-product Java development suite...
[09:58] <gztech> how i do
[09:58] <LjL> baktaah: just about any editor will syntax-highlight java, including i'm sure gedit
[09:58] <xtknight> i hate eclipse
[09:58] <baktaah> LjL the problem is that I kinda want an editor with button to compile, and a error that show what lines the error are
[09:58] <NickGarvey> :syntax on
[09:58] <baktaah> xtknight ME TOO
[09:58] <gztech> to do that the nonroot users can mount smb shares
[09:58] <gztech> ?
[09:58] <arke> eclipse is good for java tho :P
[09:59] <NickGarvey> netbeans kicks.. butt
[09:59] <xtknight> visual J under wine or something
[09:59] <xtknight> heh
[09:59] <KnowledgEngineer> for update a kernel: apt-get install xxxx ?
[09:59] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, too vague.  what do you mean?
[09:59] <KnowledgEngineer> what xxxx ???
[09:59] <LinuxProbie> PriceChild, Which X server driver should I select?
[09:59] <NickGarvey> KnowledgEngineer: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:59] <jetscreamer> either linux-image or kernel-image
[09:59] <mwe> netbeans is cools if you use java 1.6 to get proper fonts
[09:59] <gooZe> hello guys im trying to patch iptables with p-o-m and layer7 patch but make spits error with connbyte.c any ideas? (Dapper drake server iptables-1.3.3, kernel 2.6.15)
[09:59] <PriceChild> LinuxProbie, what card do you have?
[09:59] <jetscreamer> apt-cache search linux-image KnowledgEngineer
[09:59] <xtknight> !info linux-image-generic | KnowledgEngineer
[09:59] <ubotu> knowledgengineer: linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:59] <LinuxProbie> PriceChild, It's an Nvidia FX Go5800
[10:00] <LjL> !ingo geany | baktaah
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ingo geany - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <LjL> !info geany | baktaah
[10:00] <PriceChild> LinuxProbie, choose nv
[10:00] <LinuxProbie> I think...
[10:00] <baktaah> yes
[10:00] <ubotu> baktaah: geany: A fast and lightweight IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (edgy), package size 1076 kB, installed size 3664 kB
[10:00] <baktaah> NETBEANS  doesnt work
[10:00] <LinuxProbie> PriceChild, There's nv and nvidia...
[10:00] <PriceChild> LinuxProbie, choose nv
[10:00] <mwe> baktaah: doesn't work?
[10:00] <xtknight> geany is for java?
[10:00] <baktaah> mwe nope.. got a grey window.
[10:00] <mwe> baktaah: how so?
[10:00] <baktaah> thats about it
[10:00] <mwe> baktaah: odd
[10:00] <LjL> xtknight: the description claims java is among the supported languages
[10:00] <mwe> baktaah: works here
[10:00] <xtknight> cool, trying it now
[10:01] <baktaah> mwe it talked about modules and crap
[10:01] <LinuxProbie> how to I make it start X now, PriceChild?
[10:01] <pierre_> im having problems seeing my windows computer in the network. any ideas?
[10:01] <PriceChild> LinuxProbie, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:01] <napster> how do i get my wireless card to work?
[10:01] <baktaah> LjL did u say geany?
[10:01] <mwe> baktaah: modules and crap?
[10:01] <xtknight> !wireless | napster
[10:01] <ubotu> napster: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:01] <flodine> can some tell me if ubuntu will see a 500 gig drive?
[10:01] <xtknight> baktaah, yes it's a package
[10:01] <xtknight> flodine, no problem
[10:01] <baktaah> omfg LjL  Geany is PERFECT.
[10:01] <MikeW> I installed ubuntu 6.10 on my computer but when I switch to 800*600, the max refresh rate it will allow me to set is 60hz. How do I allow the refresh rate to be more than 60hz?
[10:01] <LinuxProbie> YAY!
[10:01] <flodine> thxs
[10:01] <baktaah> html, php, c, java everything
[10:01] <LinuxProbie> Thanks
[10:01] <xtknight> just wish it had autocomplete or sometihng
[10:02] <mwe> !fixres | MikeW
[10:02] <ubotu> MikeW: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:02] <KnowledgEngineer> i need to make a small modific in the kernel
[10:02] <baktaah> mwe can u help me uninstall/remove netbeans :) ?
[10:02] <napster> xtkbight
[10:02] <KnowledgEngineer> i need to download the source
[10:02] <xtknight> flodine, if your bios and HD controller supports 48- LBA, 500 gig disks are no problem
[10:02] <xtknight> napster, yes?
[10:02] <MikeW> mwe: also how do I find my root password?
[10:02] <Kaue> connect netclass.4linux.com.br
[10:02] <mwe> baktaah: sudo rm -rf /opt/netbeans<tab>
[10:02] <xtknight> Kaue, /server probably
[10:02] <Kaue> Ok
[10:02] <mwe> MikeW: you you dont ;)
[10:02] <KnowledgEngineer> i need just to change tha timer frequency
[10:02] <napster> xtknight, i have a wireless adapter but cant find it.help
[10:02] <Kaue> thks
[10:02] <mwe> !root | MikeW
[10:02] <ubotu> MikeW: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:02] <xtknight> interesting
[10:03] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, current ubuntu kernel or new vanilla one?
[10:03] <mwe> MikeW: sudo -i to get a root prompt
[10:03] <pokingfun> !vesa | MikeW
[10:03] <ubotu> MikeW: vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[10:03] <pierre_> I cant see my other windows computer through the network when in ubuntu, any ideas?
[10:03] <baktaah> mwe so its pretty much remove the folder and etc?
[10:03] <pokingfun> !modeline | MikeW
[10:03] <ubotu> MikeW: A Modeline is a configuration line in the X server configuration file that provides information about a connected computer monitor or television and how to drive it at a specified display resolution. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFree86_Modeline for more details. Here is 2 links to generate modelines which fit your monitor: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/ and http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[10:03] <xtknight> !wireless | napster, did you try this?
[10:03] <ubotu> napster, did you try this?: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:04] <xtknight> napster,  if so and if the failure persists i need a less vague description of the problem
[10:04] <KnowledgEngineer> current ubuntu kernel
[10:04] <Kaue> Hey Somebody help me?
[10:04] <eetfuk> sure
[10:04] <gooZe> anyone have sucedded with patching iptables on ubuntu?
[10:04] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, sudo apt-get install linux-source
[10:04] <eetfuk> someone can.. im surfe
[10:04] <eetfuk> sure*
[10:04] <dfgas> anyone use he wireless card that uses the rt818x driver?
[10:04] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer,  then use make-kpkg, see "Master Kernel Thread" on Ubuntu forums for easy instructions.
[10:05] <Kaue> i have the new ubuntu
[10:05] <baktaah> mwe what about the shortcut in the application list
[10:05] <Kaue> 7.04
[10:05] <xtknight> Kaue, they can help you under #ubuntu+1, the Feisty support channel
[10:05] <mwe> baktaah: remove that too.
[10:05] <Kaue> ok
[10:05] <LinuxProbie> PriceChild, any advice for properly setting up an nvidia card in feisty?
[10:05] <xtknight> LinuxProbie,  restricted-manager, #ubuntu+1 for more info
[10:06] <newbie123> hello
[10:06] <xtknight> !hi | newbie123
[10:06] <ubotu> newbie123: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:06] <baktaah>  mwe how?
[10:06] <LinuxProbie> xtknight, noone in +1 is answering me.
[10:06] <newbie123> yea um i need some help
[10:06] <newbie123> setting up ubuntu
[10:06] <newbie123> on my thinkpad t22 laptop
[10:06] <napster> xtknight, my machine can't detect it
[10:06] <LinuxProbie> newbie123, ask away
[10:06] <xtknight> !enter
[10:06] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:07] <newbie123> ok so installed 6.10 but when i boot up the screen pretty much goes blank
[10:07] <xtknight> napster, what can it not detect?  the HW?  the driver?  the interface?  the wireless access point?
[10:07] <newbie123> kernal loads
[10:07] <newbie123> and everything
[10:07] <newbie123> ubuntu boots up then at the login screen my screen is blank
[10:07] <newbie123> i can hear it working the sound and everything
[10:08] <napster> xtknight, my machine cant find the wireless card
[10:08] <newbie123> but the screen is just black
[10:08] <xtknight> newbie123, what kind of monitor?  does it appear to have gone in amber-light standby mode?
[10:08] <xtknight> if lcd, has the backlight gone off?
[10:08] <ikonia> newbie123: what video card do you have ?
[10:08] <newbie123> oh its a laptop
[10:08] <newbie123> ibm t22
[10:08] <newbie123> its quite old
[10:08] <ikonia> newbie123: what video card do you have
[10:08] <newbie123> i know it works
[10:08] <KnowledgEngineer> xtknight, i need this: cp /boot/config-2.6.17-11-generic /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17/.config
[10:08] <newbie123> cuz i actualyl see the ubuntu logo
[10:08] <ikonia> newbie123: what video card do you have
[10:08] <newbie123> but when it actually starts to load it goes black
[10:08] <newbie123> um
[10:08] <LjL> !enter
[10:09] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:09] <newbie123> i think its a savage
[10:09] <baktaah> mwe what folder are is the application in?
[10:09] <newbie123> s3 savage
[10:09] <Kaue> Somebody from brazil?
[10:09] <ikonia> newbie123: are you certain of that
[10:09] <xtknight> !br | Kaue
[10:09] <LjL> !br | Kaue
[10:09] <ubotu> Kaue: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[10:09] <mwe> baktaah: use alacarte to remove the menu entry
[10:09] <newbie123> i know its a savage
[10:09] <newbie123> but im not sure of the exact model name
[10:09] <baktaah> alacarte
[10:09] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, yea
[10:09] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, if you want current config, that sounds right
[10:09] <ikonia> newbie123: ok - here is what to do. boot into "rescue" mode from the grub boot loader, then let me know when its booted into safe mode
[10:09] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, the ngo make menuconfig, set timer Hz, etc...
[10:10] <mwe> baktaah: right. install it if you don't have it
[10:10] <Jumbola> is there any source example of source.list for edgy? or can i make source.list file ? my Self with selected repos.. like main , restricted , multiverse. or whatever?
[10:10] <LjL> !easysource > Jumbola    (Jumbola, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:10] <newbie123> oh btw this is my first time using linux
[10:10] <baktaah> mwe got it thanks thanks fortheh elp.
[10:10] <newbie123> so i dont know how to do anything
[10:10] <TheVault> Got a small little problem. I'm download Wrestle Mania 23 and its in NSV format. I was wondering if anyone could help which player I should use to play this. I tried VLC player and it just plays the Audio but not the video. I tried XINE, Mplayer, Totem Player & none of those work....I really need help
[10:10] <mwe> !easysource | Jumbola
[10:10] <newbie123> im gonna need very detailed instructions
[10:10] <ubotu> Jumbola: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:10] <baktaah> mwe geany is perfect but cant get it to compile java
[10:10] <Jumbola> okie thanks Lkl And mwe
[10:10] <ikonia> newbie123: if you read and listen to what I'm saying you'll be fine. "boot into safe/rescue mode" from the grub boot menu
[10:11] <LjL> baktaah: you probably need to point it to some java compiler (/usr/bin/javac, or something) in the preferences. not on GNOME right now.
[10:11] <ikonia> newbie123: it says "recovery mode" when you first boot
[10:11] <newbie123> ok
[10:11] <newbie123> oh i found out the graphics card name
[10:11] <newbie123> S3 SuperSavage/IX - 8 MB
[10:11] <newbie123> thats it
[10:11] <mwe> baktaah: I don't know geany, sorry.
[10:11] <ikonia> !enter >newbie123
[10:11] <skarpa> Hello! I've installed Xubuntu on my computer and exploring the configurations, I've changed the screen resolution to 800x600 pixels. I would like to change it back to 1024x768, but this resolution doesn't appear in the display configuration window. Does anybody know how I can do that?
[10:11] <Jumbola> LjL: in Which directory can i get source.list  file?
[10:11] <baktaah> mwe nah its cool
[10:11] <xtknight> napster, ok type "sudo lshw -class network" and pastebin the output
[10:11] <TheVault> How do I play NSV format in Ubuntu?
[10:11] <KnowledgEngineer> make[2] : *** [scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/checklist.o]  Error 1
[10:11] <KnowledgEngineer> make[1] : *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[10:11] <KnowledgEngineer> make: *** [menuconfig]  Error 2
[10:11] <KnowledgEngineer> gh!!!
[10:12] <xtknight> TheVault, it's nullsoft , VP6 codec i believe.  i dont know.
[10:12] <baktaah> but mwe is compiling also known as Make or Print Command
[10:12] <KnowledgEngineer> this is the output of: make menuconfig
[10:12] <IdleOne> Jumbola, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <stefg> !fixres | skarpa
[10:12] <ubotu> skarpa: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:12] <Jumbola> okie thanks
[10:12] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, sudo make clean?
[10:12] <ikonia> KnowledgEngineer: why are you trying to build a kernel ?
[10:12] <NickGarvey> KnowledgEngineer, that is not enough information to properly diagnose the problem, could you paste bin where the error first occurs?
[10:12] <TheVault> xknight: Oh. Is there a way to get Winamp working in Ubuntu?
[10:12] <xtknight> TheVault, via wine, sort of
[10:12] <mwe> baktaah: the tools I use call it 'compile'
[10:12] <xtknight> TheVault, i had some luck playing aol online radio via wine
[10:12] <xtknight> compiling is Make
[10:12] <TheVault> xknight: Heck thats even better. Know of a tutorial on how to get winamp running in Wine?
[10:13] <stefg> !info xmms | TheVault
[10:13] <ubotu> thevault: xmms: Versatile X audio player. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20060429-1ubuntu2.1 (edgy), package size 1084 kB, installed size 7248 kB
[10:13] <xtknight> xmms can't do NSV afaik
[10:13] <KnowledgEngineer> ikonia, becouse i need to chage the timer frequency
[10:13] <Animatic> TheVault, Winamp works over Wine
[10:13] <ikonia> KnowledgEngineer: what timer frequency ?
[10:13] <xtknight> TheVault, maybe #winehq  it was sort of buggy for me
[10:13] <TheVault> Alright, Imma try that then
[10:13] <newbie123> ikonia: ok i did recoverymode
[10:13] <xtknight>  ikonia  interrupt timer Hz, 250 500 or 1000 hz
[10:13] <TheVault> Well I'll take my changes then with Wine
[10:13] <Animatic> But yes, buggy and unstable
[10:13] <jeeves_Moss> can anyone help me recover my GRUB bootloader?
[10:13] <ikonia> xtknight: isn't that a module
[10:13] <TheVault> Thnx guys :)
[10:13] <xtknight> dunno
[10:13] <Yggdrasil> hello, can somone tell me why things like this happen ? : pesticides
[10:14] <xtknight> Yggdrasil, what?
[10:14] <Yggdrasil> from a web site supposed to say pestisides
[10:14] <ikonia> newbie123: ok - edit the fule /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:14] <baktaah> Anyone here that has experience with using Geany?
[10:14] <xtknight> Yggdrasil, oh poor encoding.  choose unicode or utf8 or sometihng
[10:14] <ikonia> fule should read "file"
[10:14] <KnowledgEngineer> ikonia, cpu time frequency
[10:14] <Yggdrasil> xtknight where ?
[10:14] <ikonia> KnowledgEngineer: thats differnt to what xtknight said
[10:14] <xtknight> what's the cpu time frequency?
[10:14] <xtknight> i assumed he meant the interrupts
[10:14] <jeeves_Moss> anyone?  GRUB help?
[10:14] <xtknight> thats the only thing in kernel config with timer Hz
[10:14] <ikonia> KnowledgEngineer: what do you want to do
[10:15] <xtknight> Yggdrasil, firefox couldnt detect it properly.  mess around view->character encoding
[10:15] <ikonia> KnowledgEngineer: very basicly
[10:15] <newbie123> ikonia: it says root@ubuntu: ~# and i typed in what you said and it says no such file or directory
[10:15] <matt_> how can i easily rip songs from a cd to 256 bit/s in mp3? im using edgy.
[10:15] <napster> xtknight, my machine is behaving funny.i want to restart it ok. so i will be back ok.
[10:15] <felixhummel> jeeves_Moss, !grub
[10:15] <felixhummel> !grub
[10:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:15] <ikonia> newbie123: type "ls -la /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:16] <CheshireViking> TheVault, nsv is supposed to be playable in mplayer - http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design6/info.html
[10:16] <KnowledgEngineer> ikonia, i want to change the CPU timer frequency becouse i need a Low-Latency kernel!!
[10:16] <jeeves_Moss> felixhummel:  all I need to do is recover it.  I installed Windows in the wrong order.
[10:16] <xtknight> napster, funny?
[10:16] <xtknight> napster, ok though
[10:16] <ikonia> KnowledgEngineer: are you sure you confident with what you're saying
[10:16] <felixhummel> jeeves_Moss, !grub in this channel, the first link
[10:16] <xtknight> napster, if there's any other problems let us know ;P
[10:16] <KnowledgEngineer> last year i rebuild the kernel
[10:17] <jeeves_Moss> felixhummel:  ok, thanks.
[10:17] <ikonia> xtknight: do you understand what KnowledgEngineer wants to do with cpu timer frequency to create a low latency kernel ?
[10:17] <PR1xT1S> can I ask a question here?
[10:17] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, maybe you want tickless realtime patches or sometihng
[10:17] <stefg> KnowledgEngineer: http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/
[10:17] <mwe> jeeves_Moss: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:17] <KnowledgEngineer> no
[10:17] <baktaah> Anyone here that has experience with using Geany?
[10:17] <napster> xtknight, when i launch some application like text editor they dnt run
[10:17] <quatre_quart> hi
[10:17] <felixhummel> PR1xT1S, no. Noone is allowed to do that! :D (sure, just ask)
[10:17] <xtknight> ikonia, i dont know
[10:17] <KnowledgEngineer> i solved the problem last year changing the timer frequency
[10:17] <newbie123> ikonia: still no luck i typed in ls -la /etc/x11/xorg.conf and it still gives me ls: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: no such file or directory
[10:17] <tuqann> hi, anyone knows how to bring back GRUB after a WinXP installation
[10:17] <ikonia> newbie123: as I said earlier - pay close attention to whats been said
[10:17] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, erm... <what> problem?
[10:18] <ikonia> newbie123: "/etc/X11" not "/etc/x11"
[10:18] <bensode> Is PHP4 still supported on 6.10 ?
[10:18] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, you mean like the one that says 125,250 , 1000 Hz?
[10:18] <jusama14> how do i find out what ubuntu version i have...my teacher installed it on the class computers
[10:18] <xtknight> napster, hmm well i've had that happen
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[10:18] <xtknight> stupid kids
[10:19] <zulfajuniadi> fuckers
[10:19] <xtknight> shouldnt they be in 1st grade
[10:19] <ikonia> bye zulfajuniadi
[10:19] <Pricey> zulfajuniadi, keep the language out thankyou
[10:19] <hypn0> now that's just messed up me following things :-|
[10:19] <xtknight> napster, root/sudo or something.  reboot is prolly the best.
[10:19] <CheshireViking> xtknight, nah, they're not that advanced
[10:19] <zulfajuniadi> yw
[10:19] <xtknight> napster, i mean it's a root./sudo progblem i think.  like gksudo gedit sometimes fials to start
[10:19] <KnowledgEngineer> some people that do not like ubuntu was tring to create problems here?
[10:20] <xtknight> probably not just ubuntu, every irc channel.
[10:20] <bensode> sheesh
[10:20] <KnowledgEngineer> tipical lamers
[10:20] <Pricey> !offtopic
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> was that a bot?
[10:20] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:20] <Pricey> Back to support please.
[10:20] <LinuxProbie> holey spam...
[10:20] <xtknight> alright yeah
[10:20] <mwe> KnowledgEngineer: probably just people who don't have anything better to do
[10:20] <hypn0> !ask
[10:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:20] <bensode> making me stretch back on how to use nickserv
[10:21] <bensode> anyway ... trying to install PHP4 and it looks like it's no longer on the 6.10 repositories anymore?
[10:21] <Seveas> bensode, correct
[10:21] <spiderfire> hi my sound wont play multiple apps...how do i fix this?
[10:21] <Seveas> php4 is removed
[10:21] <spiderfire> !sound
[10:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[10:21] <Explosif> hey all, what types of applications do you use to organize your music library?
[10:21] <jusama14> do you guys recommend installing the wine that's already in packagemanger when ubuntu was installed
[10:21] <Explosif> I tried rhythmbox bt it seemed a little laggy
[10:21] <CheshireViking> jusama14, if you're using gnome, click  System & about Ubuntu
[10:21] <xtknight> Explosif, rytyhmbox
[10:21] <xtknight> sorry i can't spell
[10:21] <Pricey> jusama14, yes
[10:21] <jusama14> or should i go to the winehq site and add the repository
[10:21] <newbie123> ikonia: can you advise me further?
[10:22] <xtknight> ehh rhythmbox has been good for me
[10:22] <safer> Hello ------- I have a problem such as this ------- I installed kubuntu yesterday and when I put a cd/dvd in either of the 2 drives nothing happens, nothing appears on the desktop, and when I got to /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1, no data is there.  But when I got to Settings>Sys.Admin.>disk&filesystems I see scd1 and scd0 as devices for /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 and the right hard drive sda1.  But, when I got to /dev/ I only see sda, nothing about scd
[10:22] <safer> ----- how do I mount my cd rom drives?
[10:22] <jusama14> the one that they give me?
[10:22] <ardchoille> Explosif: gcstart to manage and xmms to play
[10:22] <ikonia> newbie123: sorry I missed your last message due to the flood
[10:22] <xtknight> Explosif,  lag, like from a samba share?
[10:22] <KnowledgEngineer> mwe, i do not think it
[10:22] <xtknight> or nfs
[10:22] <xtknight> or just local mp3s?
[10:22] <kahrytan> What is the release date for the next ubuntu?
[10:22] <newbie123> ikonia: yea i typed in with cap X and it worked
[10:22] <xtknight> !feisty | kahrytan
[10:22] <KnowledgEngineer> mut i'm sure that is a stupid bheaviour
[10:22] <ubotu> kahrytan: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:22] <jusama14> thx chesireviking, pricy the one in packagemanger is the latest right?
[10:22] <ardchoille> kahrytan: April 19th iirc
[10:22] <ikonia> newbie123: ok - so edit the file with your text editor of choice
[10:22] <xtknight> ya 19th
[10:22] <underdog5004> Anyone ever try to get a Phillips GoGear MP3 player working? I plugged it in, but it gets misdetected as a USB Imaging Interface...
[10:22] <bensode> thanks for the info ... keep up the good work!
[10:23] <newbie123> ikonia: how do i edit it?
[10:23] <carpediem> underdog5004: is that a MTP device?
[10:23] <KnowledgEngineer> xtknight, http://rafb.net/p/PaU1bK89.html
[10:23] <ikonia> newbie123: nano, vi, emacs, your text editor of choice
[10:23] <underdog5004> carpediem, mtp?
[10:23] <KnowledgEngineer> strange output of make menuconfig
[10:23] <carpediem> underdog5004: (aka PlayForSure)
[10:23] <KnowledgEngineer> can you look please?
[10:23] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h:31:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory
[10:23] <newbie123> ikonia: i have no idea how to do that
[10:23] <Explosif> xtknight I set up an rsync with my desktop, but im not playing directly from the share.  My music is on both my computers.
[10:23] <safer> Hello ------- I have a problem such as this ------- I installed kubuntu yesterday and when I put a cd/dvd in either of the 2 drives nothing happens, nothing appears on the desktop, and when I got to /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1, no data is there.  But when I got to Settings>Sys.Admin.>disk&filesystems I see scd1 and scd0 as devices for /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 and the right hard drive sda1.  But, when I got to /dev/ I only see sda, nothing about scd
[10:23] <safer> ---- help?
[10:23] <mwe> !schedule
[10:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:23] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, follow the 'sudo apt-get' at beginning of 'Master Kernel Thread'. follow all steps
[10:23] <ikonia> KnowledgEngineer: thats not strange your missing headers
[10:23] <Seveas> !repeat | safer
[10:23] <ubotu> safer: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:23] <Jumbola> well i just update my sources file.. now when i type sudo apt-get update.. then many urls show like this. " Ign http://deb.opera.com etch Release    "
[10:23] <Seveas> !kernelcompile | KnowledgEngineer
[10:23] <ubotu> KnowledgEngineer: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[10:23] <underdog5004> carpediem, I don't know. It's got a little windows icon on the back that says Plays Windows Media
[10:24] <Explosif> xtknight, what do you use for tagging?
[10:24] <xtknight> best kernel thread hands down:http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[10:24] <carpediem> underdog5004: inverted yellow triangle logo?
[10:24] <xtknight> Explosif, hrm, id3?
[10:24] <underdog5004> carpediem, nope
[10:24] <xtknight> Explosif, i dont really organize my music much.  dont have tons of it, i'm mostly a net radio ugy
[10:24] <underdog5004> just the window windows icon
[10:24] <Explosif> xtknight yea, a lot of my songs have crazy numbers and junk I dont need.
[10:24] <xtknight> they never really affected me
[10:24] <Explosif> xtknight, I like radio too, ever use pandora?
[10:24] <skarpa> Hello! I've installed Xubuntu on my computer and exploring the configurations, I've changed the screen resolution to 800x600 pixels. I would like to change it back to 1024x768, but this resolution doesn't appear in the display configuration window. Does anybody know how I can do that?
[10:25] <xtknight> Explosif, nope.  streambox+audacity here
[10:25] <carpediem> underdog5004: well, if it's recent, it's probably PlayForSure.  Might try installing libmtp2, but it's not real mature yet.
[10:25] <jusama14> thx guys, cya
[10:25] <CheshireViking> jusama14, just found a command for use in a terminal as well "cat /etc/issue" hope it helps
[10:25] <Explosif> xtknight, omg.  go and take a look.
[10:25] <Explosif> xtknight, www.pandora.com
[10:25] <xtknight> Explosif, pandora is fo r*nix ?
[10:25] <carpediem> Pandora is the bomb
[10:25] <underdog5004> carpediem, ok, I also found a site called opengogear.sarovar.org that's dedicated to this stuff...
[10:25] <Explosif> xtknight, its web based.
[10:25] <EADG> Is anybody using Bandwidthd? I need the .conf file (i deleted it and it don't make a new .conf on reinstall)
[10:25] <Jumbola> can someone help whts the problem with my source.list file? i just created with The Url which one ubotu give me :<
[10:26] <newbie123> ikonia: how am i supposed to load up the text editor and such oh btw im on a different computer trying to trouble shoot this laptop
[10:26] <carpediem> I don't even listen to my music collection anymore.  Pandora is just too perfect.
[10:26] <IdleOne> skarpa, in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure zserver-xorg and follow the instructions ( if not sure go with default )
[10:26] <underdog5004> lol
[10:26] <IdleOne> skarpa, in terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow the instructions ( if not sure go with default )
[10:26] <ikonia> newbie123: you need to learn how to use a text editor - the easiest is "nano"
[10:26] <Explosif> xtknight, try it, you'll thank me, I promise
[10:26] <LjL> Jumbola: pastebin it
[10:26] <xtknight> Explosif,  aight
[10:26] <Jumbola> LjL:  okie man
[10:26] <carpediem> underdog5004: yeah, I know nothing about that site.  I just know a little about libmtp and Microsoft MTP (PlayForSure) protocol.
[10:27] <carpediem> underdog5004: always possible that device doesn't use mtp.
[10:27] <napster> xtknight, i will be back soon
[10:27] <newbie123> ikonia: yea im on the gnu nano website and im instructed to get it but what im saying is how do i upload it onto my laptop so i can use it on their
[10:27] <Jumbola> LjL:  the source.list file ?
[10:28] <LjL> Jumbola: yes, put it into the pastebin so i'll check it
[10:28] <safer> can someone help me out with my cdrom drives please?
[10:28] <Jumbola> LjL:  okie thanks wait a minute
[10:28] <baktaah> Could someone help me it seems like my version has a problem with java
[10:28] <baktaah> It seems like I dont hava java on :/
[10:28] <IdleOne> !java | baktaah
[10:28] <ikonia> newbie123: nano should be on there already
[10:28] <ubotu> baktaah: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:29] <dooglus> I just moved my laptop from one room to another.  when I opened it, the screen was locked, and unresponsive.  I rebooted, but now apparently I have no hard disk drive at all, only CD
[10:29] <__Shawn__> !java
[10:29] <baktaah> IdleOne its not a compiler issue
[10:29] <crimsun> newbie123: err, you don't have nano installed by default?
[10:29] <dooglus> is there anything I can do when the BIOS doesn't detect a hard disk?
[10:29] <ikonia> dooglus: sounds like your hard disk has failed
[10:29] <ikonia> dooglus: probably because you moved it while on
[10:29] <dooglus> ikonia: laptops aren't supposed to be moved?
[10:29] <jetscreamer> dooglus: linux should still be able to access/use it
[10:29] <mwe> dooglus: was it hibernated?
[10:29] <newbie123> ikonia: like i said i have totally no knowledge of linux just trying to learn now
[10:30] <IdleOne> baktaah, sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre if on edgy and sun-java5-jre if on dapper
[10:30] <dooglus> mwe: no, it was on
[10:30] <safer> Do I need  to install ntfs-3g for my cdrom drives to be detected?
[10:30] <ikonia> newbie123: like I said - pay attention
[10:30] <crimsun> safer: ...no.
[10:30] <jetscreamer> no safer
[10:30] <sirkism> how do i re-install just the grub? windows system restore wiped it out
[10:30] <ikonia> dooglus: no hard disks are
[10:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:30] <dooglus> jetscreamer: I found an old xubuntu 6.06 live cd, so I'm using that now.  how (if at all) can I get linux to see the hard disk?
[10:30] <jetscreamer> grub-install hd0 might work
[10:30] <newbie123> ikonia: what do i need to edit and how do i get into this nano from root
[10:30] <mwe> safer: ntfs-3g is for writing to ntfs, so no.
[10:30] <sirkism> !grub
[10:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:30] <safer> o ok
[10:30] <xtknight> Explosif, im already thanking you for this :P
[10:30] <safer> Well how do I get them to start working then?
[10:31] <ikonia> newbie123: 1.) you shoud not be root at this moment in time 2.) I've told you to go and read up on how to use a basic text editor 3.) I've told you nano should already be installed on your ubuntu laptop
[10:31] <safer> I don't see them in /dev/
[10:31] <Jumbola> LjL:  dude i pasted there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13577/
[10:31] <kestaz_> how which to search for java plugin_path  ?
[10:31] <kestaz_> where*
[10:31] <xtknight> safer, don't see what in /dev ?
[10:31] <LinuxProbie> how do I install the synaptics driver?
[10:31] <kestaz_> i need to export it
[10:31] <aricz> Is there any particular reason we should not login as root? .. enlighten me please :)
[10:32] <xtknight> sometimes stuff is in /dev/.static/dev
[10:32] <IdleOne> !touchpad | LinuxProbie
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <baktaah> IdleOne that one doesnt install it for me
[10:32] <mwe> should cds automount, usually?
[10:32] <xtknight> mwe, yes, via gnome and HAL
[10:32] <Pricey> aricz, because its easy to break things
[10:32] <IdleOne> baktaah, what did you type exactly and what error did it give if any?
[10:32] <baktaah> IdleOne it told me to go to sun and download
[10:32] <Pricey> !sudo > aricz (see pm from ubotu)
[10:32] <LjL> Jumbola: what is not working, when using that list?
[10:32] <safer> well i got to Setting>Admin>disk&filesystems and I see /dev/scd1 and /dev/scd0 as devices for /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1
[10:33] <xtknight> safer, sounds fine to me so far
[10:33] <safer> but I don't see  scd0 or scd1 in /dev
[10:33] <aricz> yup
[10:33] <xtknight> safer, odd but why would you need to?
[10:33] <Jumbola> LjL: let me paste those logs too ok??
[10:33] <LjL> Jumbola: sure
[10:33] <safer> well- i dunno - just that my disks are not being read
[10:33] <xtknight> safer, oh you mean the nodes don't exist, thus you cannot mount the drives?
[10:33] <safer> I guess
[10:34] <xtknight> safer, can you re-explain the problem
[10:34] <xtknight> the /big/ one
[10:34] <LjL> aricz: is there any particular reason you *should* login as root? :P
[10:34] <safer> Hello ------- I have a problem such as this ------- I installed kubuntu yesterday and when I put a cd/dvd in either of the 2 drives nothing happens, nothing appears on the desktop, and when I got to /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1, no data is there.  But when I got to Settings>Sys.Admin.>disk&filesystems I see scd1 and scd0 as devices for /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 and the right hard drive sda1.  But, when I got to /dev/ I only see sda, nothing about scd
[10:34] <aricz> hehe, not really, but why not? :)
[10:35] <xtknight> safer, pastebin "sudo lshw -class disk"
[10:35] <newbie123> ikonia: ah okay im in nano now
[10:35] <upd> wine client error:1f: version mismatch 280/289.
[10:35] <upd> Your wineserver binary was not upgraded correctly,
[10:35] <upd> or you have an older one somewhere in your PATH.
[10:35] <upd> Or maybe the wrong wineserver is still running?
[10:35] <upd> how fix that
[10:35] <LjL> !paste > upd    (upd, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:35] <dfgas> anyone use he wireless card that uses the rt818x driver?
[10:35] <xtknight> upd, #winehq
[10:35] <shea> so, the gnome window list (taskbar thing) doesn't seem to like kde window events -- kde apps are constantly flashing after switching desktops and stuff
[10:35] <dooglus> can I download and burn a more recent live CD while running an old live CD?
[10:35] <aricz> ljl, but uhm, root gives full access.. so do sudo I guess?
[10:35] <xtknight> !anyone | dfgas
[10:35] <shea> anything I can do?
[10:36] <Bluedog> How can I update to the newest version of rhythmbox, its not in the repositories... am i ok to just download it from gnome.org, or should I wait till its in the repos?
[10:36] <ubotu> dfgas: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:36] <newbie123> ikonia: and i loaded up xorg.conf
[10:36] <safer> ok I did that - what now?
[10:36] <dooglus> (I've only got one CD drive - so I need some way to remove the live CD that's running)
[10:36] <xtknight> shea, same thing happens here.  i would also like to know.  such as k3b always flashing
[10:36] <LjL> aricz: because anything you do has the power to affect the whole system. and that can be a problem because of 1) human error 2) executing malicious code 3) running software with bugs that can be exploited by malicious people
[10:36] <safer> I only see hard  drive stuff
[10:36] <shea> yep :(
[10:36] <shea> kate/kdevelop/amarok always flash
[10:36] <xtknight> doesnt happen always though
[10:36] <aricz> Ljl, sounds perfect to me.. I don't trade freedom for paranoia.. muhahaha
[10:36] <shea> i tried disabling animations in gconf-editor but no effect
[10:36] <LjL> aricz, why would you need "full access" except when you do need it?
[10:36] <compengi> blue, you can download it from the official site, compile it and it will work fine :)
[10:37] <Bluedog> compengi: ty
[10:37] <Jumbola> LjL:  Check this one when i try to sudo apt-get update.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13578/
[10:37] <SlimeyPete> dooglus: once the CD is booted you should be able to remove it AFAIK
[10:37] <aricz> Ljl, I want to live in this enviroment knowing I can do anything I want to do.. hehe
[10:37] <compengi> Bluedog, np
[10:37] <dfgas> i am having problems getting rt818x to work with wpa, can someone help?
[10:37] <newbie123> ikonia: after loading up xorg.conf in nano is there something specific i need to look out for?
[10:37] <aricz> Ljl, but yeah, I get your picture, hopefulle you get mine as well.. we all want to be God right? ;)
[10:37] <safer> only listings for /dev/sda /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2
[10:37] <LjL> aricz: when you need to (say) install software, you tell you system "hey, look, i'm going to make a system-wide change, i'll be root for a while". that's what sudo is about. why would anyone in their sane mind *login* as root? mind you: ubuntu uses sudo by default, but most other distributions, too, do *not* allow graphical root logins
[10:37] <dooglus> SlimeyPete: I ran 'eject' and it ejected - and I still seem to be here...
[10:37] <sirkism> if i had to, all i would have to do is use the live cd and re-partition the root for a larger size and that would not damage any system files already in place, correct?
[10:37] <SlimeyPete> dooglus: :)
[10:38] <samurayx> hi
[10:38] <dooglus> SlimeyPete: I wonder what happens next time I run a command that's not cached in RAM...
[10:38] <SlimeyPete> only one way to find out ;)
[10:38] <LjL> aricz: uh, maybe, but being root doesn't necessarily make me feel like any supernatural entity. i'd rather use my system sanely.
[10:38] <samurayx> i need help with samba
[10:38] <LjL> aricz, you *can* do whatever you want to. you have the password.
[10:38] <safer> Why is it that I see /dev/scd0 and /dev/scd1 in Settings>Admin>disk&filesystems?
[10:38] <xtknight> safer, you'll have to prefix your messages with xtknight:    did you get the pastebin yet?
[10:38] <dooglus> SlimeyPete: what seems to happen is the shell hangs, but the system doesn't
[10:38] <safer> yes
[10:38] <aricz> Ljl, yup, so that's why I don't see why not just login as root in the first place
[10:38] <xtknight> safer, i need the url for the pastbin
[10:38] <Bluedog> Even tho rhythmbox is sat in synaptic, am i ok to build a new version from source?
[10:39] <Bluedog> will synaptic realise?
[10:39] <cvk77> !info banshee
[10:39] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1460 kB, installed size 4388 kB
[10:39] <safer> url? ok maybe I dont' understand
[10:39] <sirkism> !ati
[10:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:39] <xtknight> safer, the link to the paste
[10:39] <sirkism> !install grub
[10:39] <aricz> Ljl, sure, you may fuck up, but it's all your blame, and hopefulle you'll learn from your mistake.. lets not discuss this anymore, I get the point with not being root.. I'm just not afraid I'll twinkle with something and crash the system:p
[10:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <compengi> Bluedog, yeah sure :)
[10:39] <LjL> aricz: alright, we'll talk about this again when you come here from a live CD after some 12 years old guy has hacked into your machien :)
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> Bluedog: synaptic won't realise, no. Synaptic only knows about packages which are provided by the ubuntu repositories.
[10:39] <xtknight> !language
[10:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:39] <LjL> aricz: then suit yourself (and watch your language)
[10:39] <SlimeyPete> Bluedog: unless you mean you're downloading a source package
[10:39] <aricz> LjL, ah, sorry..
[10:39] <KnowledgEngineer> for low latency kernel i must change the timer frequency 250 to 100 or 250 to 1000 Hz ??
[10:39] <Joebu[NoR] > anyone know anything about mplayer config file?
[10:40] <compengi> Bluedog, as i said download it from the official site and compile it :)
[10:40] <baktaah> Could someone please help me with my java issue I cant get it to work
[10:40] <Suurorca> Joebu[NoR] : something
[10:40] <crimsun> KnowledgEngineer: the latter.
[10:40] <kahrytan> SlimeyPete, Synaptic works with any repositories.
[10:40] <crimsun> KnowledgEngineer: and enable full preempt.
[10:40] <safer> xtknight: all I did was paste "sudo lshw -class disk" in shell
[10:40] <Bluedog> compengi: Will synaptic / apt realise though?
[10:40] <cvk77> KnowledgEngineer: 1000
[10:40] <safer> I don't know about a "url"
[10:40] <SlimeyPete> kahrytan: well yes... by "ubuntu repositories" I meant "repositories of ubuntu packages" ;)
[10:40] <Joebu[NoR] > suurorca: i need to have mplayer play specific files into different displays, i am running 2 video cards
[10:40] <xtknight> !pastebin | safer
[10:40] <xtknight> safer: i need the output of the command.
[10:40] <KnowledgEngineer> cvk77, tks
[10:41] <safer> !pastebin
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> Bluedog: if you're downloading the source from the site then no, synaptic won't realise. It has no way of knowing.
[10:41] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, low latency is not 1000hz
[10:41] <ubotu> safer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:41] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, low latency is another option
[10:41] <Bluedog> Slimeypete: yeah.. so maybe I should just leave it
[10:41] <cvk77> !lowlatency | KnowledgEngineer
[10:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lowlatency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:41] <Bluedog> Im quite new and dont want to mess things up :)
[10:41] <xtknight> dynticks/realtime patches are full lowlatency
[10:41] <compengi> Bluedog, well there is no need to mess up :)
[10:41] <SlimeyPete> Bluedog: you can always just uninstall the package first via synaptic, then try compiling the source... if you fail, then just re-install the package :)
[10:41] <Bluedog> ah :) ok
[10:42] <Bluedog> thanks guys!
[10:42] <napster> xtknight, i am back
[10:42] <baktaah> !jav
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jav - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <compengi> Bluedog, just download and compile, are you familiar with it?
[10:42] <baktaah> !java
[10:42] <EnsignRedshirt> bluedog: Synaptic/apt will not know anything if about it if you download and compile the source code.  Where you might run into a problem is if you install it in the default install directory, which is probably /usr/bin.  Running "make install" might overwrite files that were installed by synaptic/apt.
[10:42] <baktaah> !java
[10:42] <LjL> Jumbola: there's nothing too bad there. the WINE repository cannot be contacted - i guess it's just down right now - and there's another repository that doesn't really exist anymore, just remove it. the rest of the warnings is merely about GPG keys. you can ignore it or (better) follow the instructions at the beginning of your new sources.list to add the keys
[10:42] <baktaah> !java
[10:42] <LjL> !botabuse
[10:42] <cvk77> KnowledgEngineer: remember to enable preempt
[10:42] <newbie123> ikonia seems to be afk so can anybody else help me to get my laptop lcd screen to work? im in xorg.conf right now and i dunno what to do
[10:42] <xtknight> napster, wireless problem right?  get the pastebin?
[10:42] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:42] <safer> xtknight: extremely new to linux i'm sorry
[10:42] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:42] <napster> xtknight, nope
[10:42] <xtknight> safer, oh no problem
[10:42] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: what wrong with ur lcd?
[10:43] <xtknight> safer, so do you understand ?
[10:43] <Jumbola> LjL: sir you want to say better i delete those ?
[10:43] <safer> yes I"m at the site now
[10:43] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: well i installed ubuntu onto my ibm t22 and the monitor wont work at all
[10:43] <xtknight> safer, type "sudo lshw -class disk" and then copy the output from the terminal.  paste it to the pastebin and give me the URL
[10:43] <xtknight> napster, type "sudo lshw -class network" and pastebin it
[10:43] <Suurorca> Joebu[NoR] : I guess that's done with "display"... I'm not really sure of the syntax, prolly something laong the line -display foo:0
[10:43] <LjL> Jumbola: i mean the media.blutkind.org repositories. they don't seem to exist anymore - yes, you can delete them. or let them stay, they won't do any harm aside from those warnings.
[10:43] <zulfajuniadi> in the device section, what driver are you using?
[10:43] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: in the device section, what driver are you using?
[10:44] <KnowledgEngineer> cvk77, in what submenu i can enable preempt?
[10:44] <Jumbola> LjL: Okie Sir thanks
[10:44] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: after the screen with the ubuntu logo and progress bar the screen just goes blank
[10:44] <baktaah> Could someone please help me (this is so frustrating) I cant install java 5
[10:44] <joebonni> how do you recover your nickserv password if you forgot it
[10:44] <baktaah> it tells me to roo.root and go to a website and etc.
[10:44] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: i says s3 savage IX-mv
[10:44] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: you said ur in xorg.cong right now
[10:44] <LjL> baktaah: ?! how are you installing it?
[10:44] <pantalaimon_> #math
[10:44] <Pollywog> baktaah: get java-package
[10:45] <LjL> !java
[10:45] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[10:45] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: yes im in xorg.conf
[10:45] <Pricey> joebonni, type "/stats p" to find a list of online staff and pm one of them.... unless you set an email they may not let you reset it.
[10:45] <Pollywog> use that to install java
[10:45] <Cesare> someone can help me with an eciadsl problem
[10:45] <baktaah> holy .. LjL I have done what that website says
[10:45] <xtknight> !pastebin
[10:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:45] <cvk77> KnowledgEngineer: dunno. option name is CONFIG_PREEMPT
[10:45] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: got o section 'device'
[10:45] <xtknight> safer, ok so you do not know how to use the pastebin right?
[10:45] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: under driver, what does it say?
[10:45] <xtknight> safer, type in a name, select anything for the second one.  it doesn't mater.  and paste in the third box.  press submit.  give me the URL that comes up.
[10:45] <Pollywog> I installed java-package and use that to install the jre from sun
[10:46] <safer> I got it
[10:46] <LjL> baktaah, i don't really know what part of it you're following. all you need to do is type  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre  with multiverse enabled.
[10:46] <kostkon> Hi. Has anyone tested this --> http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/  with Feisty Fawn?!
[10:46] <spasticteapot> You need to add an additional package for a Firefox plugin, IIRC.
[10:46] <xtknight> safer, also please prefix messages with my name ("xtknight").  it is busy here
[10:46] <TIRC_669> ola
[10:46] <LjL> baktaah: what is telling you to roo.root whatever that means? what directs you to go to a website?
[10:46] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: im there says identifier s3 inc. 86c270-294 savage/ix-mv  and Driver: savage and busid: pci:1:0:0
[10:46] <safer> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13579/
[10:46] <xtknight> thanks
[10:46] <napster> xtknight, this is i got  *-network
[10:46] <napster>        description: Ethernet interface
[10:46] <napster>        product: 3c556B CardBus [Tornado] 
[10:46] <napster>        vendor: 3Com Corporation
[10:46] <napster>        physical id: 3
[10:46] <napster>        bus info: pci@00:03.0
[10:46] <napster>        logical name: eth0
[10:46] <xtknight> !paste | napster
[10:46] <napster>        version: 20
[10:46] <xtknight> :(
[10:46] <ubotu> napster: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:46] <napster>        serial: 00:01:03:83:ee:06
[10:46] <napster>        size: 100MB/s
[10:46] <napster>        capacity: 100MB/s
[10:46] <napster>        width: 32 bits
[10:46] <compengi> !paste | napster
[10:46] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: try changing savage to vesa
[10:46] <napster>        clock: 33MHz
[10:46] <napster>        capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegociation
[10:47] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: save and restart
[10:47] <spasticteapot> ..upgrade time!
[10:47] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: the driver name?
[10:47] <baktaah> !pastebin
[10:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:47] <spasticteapot> Seriously, I can give you something better than a VESA savage for free.
[10:47] <spasticteapot> Honestly, that's just kinda sad.
[10:47] <ompaul> baktaah, that person is not in the channel
[10:47] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: just rename it vesa?
[10:47] <newbie123> hey i'll take free stuff
[10:47] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: yes, rename to vesa
[10:47] <spasticteapot> :)
[10:47] <xtknight> safer, looks like your dvd drives are not detected
[10:48] <xtknight> safer, not at /all/
[10:48] <Yggdrasil> xtknight thanks for your help earlier
[10:48] <spasticteapot> newbie123: Hmm...I wish I remembered the IRC command to get your IP address.
[10:48] <baktaah> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13580/
[10:48] <Steil_> is there a way way to tile windows in gnome
[10:48] <LjL> spasticteapot: ifconfig
[10:48] <spasticteapot> ifconfig
[10:48] <spasticteapot> ?
[10:48] <spasticteapot> WTF?
[10:48] <LjL> spasticteapot: ah sorry, the irc command. /whois
[10:48] <Bluedog> How can I play a .avi with subtitles in linux?
[10:48] <spasticteapot> That's the Linux command!
[10:48] <dooglus> SlimeyPete: I don't recommend ejecting the live CD you're running from...  everything eventually dies :(
[10:48] <LjL> no need to what-the-whatever, i just messed up some.
[10:48] <Bluedog> I cant get the subtitles to show
[10:49] <shea> xtknight: well i found a work-around :P
[10:49] <chibiace> http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[10:49] <spasticteapot> newbie123: Why on earth, if you can afford NYC's taxes, are'nt you using anything better?
[10:49] <shea> replace the gnome panel you use the window list in with kicker (kde's panel)
[10:49] <LjL> baktaah: ehm, and this happens after typing *what*? don't give output without input :)
[10:49] <spasticteapot> And don't tell me you smoke...
[10:49] <SideshowMel> hello there... total n00b here.
[10:49] <dooglus> Bluedog: I use mplayer.  just put the .sub or .srt in the same folder as the .avi, with the same filename (apart from the last 3 letters)
[10:49] <xtknight> shea, interesting
[10:49] <shea> if you turn off the background image, set the size to 'tiny' and remove all of the extra crap
[10:49] <spasticteapot> SideshowMel: Welcome!
[10:49] <newbie123> spasticteapot: cuz im a poor college student
[10:49] <baktaah> what u told me  sudo apt-get jdk5 package
[10:49] <xtknight> shea, thanks for the report
[10:49] <shea> it looks exactly like the gnome panel
[10:49] <Bluedog> thanks
[10:49] <spasticteapot> newbie123: Pfah.
[10:49] <shea> *and* behaves properly
[10:49] <Pricey> !offtopic | spasticteapot
[10:49] <SideshowMel> so I have a question about ubuntu
[10:49] <ubotu> spasticteapot: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:49] <baktaah> LjL sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:49] <napster> xtkhight, u there?
[10:49] <xtknight> napster: please pastebin next time.  i'm afraid your paste got cut off when you got kicked so i'll need the whole thing on pastebin again.
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Pricey: I'm encouraging him to use Ubuntu-supported hardware. :)
[10:50] <spasticteapot> SideshowMel: So, what's the quandrary?
[10:50] <colbert> how do I install java on ubuntu ??
[10:50] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: still no luck
[10:50] <LjL> !java > colbert    (colbert, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:50] <MetalWolf> hi.  I seem to be having a bad today, and can't remember how to do this.  I use Window Maker under ubuntu and one of my programs (netbeans) has taken to starting off the screen so I can only see the bottom bar.  Any idea's how i get it back on screen
[10:50] <xtknight> colbert, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[10:50] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: after changing and rebooting it still shows nothing after the logo and progress bar screen
[10:51] <SlimeyPete> dooglus: duly noted, thanks ;)
[10:51] <SideshowMel> I'm a linux n00b, even though I've been running Fedora Core 6 for almost a year now, I don't really know jack... anyways, does Ubuntu have the ability to "schedule tasks" like in Windoze? basically, I want to have an app run after the machine has been idle for 10 minutes.
[10:51] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: does it say that xorg cannot start?
[10:51] <colbert> thanks
[10:51] <spasticteapot> SideshowMel: That's integrated into the kernel, IIRC.
[10:51] <baktaah> LjL did u see it, god this is frustrating
[10:51] <spasticteapot> I believe it's called a "Cron".
[10:51] <Pricey> !cron > SideshowMel (see the pm from ubotu)
[10:51] <LjL> baktaah: well, i don't recall getting that warning when installing it, but after all it's just a warning about documentation, isn't it? it's not saying it did not install.
[10:51] <spasticteapot> I'm still reading the O'Riley Guide to Linux...and have'nt gotten that far yet.
[10:51] <ppda> Hi. Anyone can help me to modifiy poweroff behavior in gnome ? Smthg related to gnome-power-manager I guess
[10:51] <napster> xtkhight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13582/
[10:51] <ompaul> MetalWolf, can you shrink it from the bottom up?
[10:51] <delcoyote> hi all trying to install compiz and i crashed the xserver, how can i get back the old gdm.conf?
[10:52] <Pollywog> Is there a front-end for cron for Gnome?  I think kde has kcron
[10:52] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: well the progress bar finishes and it begins to load the next screen but i've yet to see what the next screen is cuz it just makes a sound and the screen remains blank
[10:52] <MetalWolf> yeah but the top still doesn't come down onto my screen
[10:52] <Pollywog> maybe I imagined it in my sleep
[10:52] <Arcad3> witch command shall i use to sincronyze my clock?
[10:52] <baktaah> LjL well I cant install
[10:52] <spasticteapot> Pollywog: KChron should probbably work.
[10:52] <baktaah> it asks me
[10:52] <colbert> Pollywog, Schedule, it's in the menu
[10:52] <EnsignRedshirt> MetalWolf: Hold the Alt key down, then click and drag.  That works in metacity/gnome, anyway... I don't know about window maker.
[10:52] <delcoyote> btw thanks Pollywog the fake samba worked
[10:52] <LjL> !info loadwatch > SideshowMel
[10:52] <MetalWolf> lemme try
[10:52] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: unless you want me to go BACK to recovery mode and try something in tehre with xorg.conf
[10:52] <SideshowMel> cool... so that's like kindof an add-on for Ubuntu? I'm thikning of switching from Fedora, but I'm hoping I won't have to, but if this can be done, that's a good reason to switch.
[10:52] <Pollywog> delcoyote: :)
[10:52] <LaNCeloT_RW> how do I install a package i386 on a x86_64 system?
[10:53] <LaNCeloT_RW> dpkg - i --force packege.deb ?
[10:53] <ompaul> Arcad3,  ntpdate
[10:53] <baktaah> LjL he file should be owned by root.root and be copied o /tmp.[Press RETURN to try again, 'no' + RETURN to abort] 
[10:53] <zulfajuniadi> try pluggin in a monitor at the output vga, see if it routes the display there
[10:53] <xtknight> napster, sorry i didnt catch it as you mistyped my name and it didn't highlight
[10:53] <spasticteapot> LaNCeloT_RW: Umm....download the .tar.gz and compile it?
[10:53] <Arcad3> thanks
[10:53] <MetalWolf> oooh that works thanks EnsignRedshirt
[10:53] <zulfajuniadi> newbie123: try pluggin in a monitor at the output vga, see if it routes the display there
[10:53] <LaNCeloT_RW> spasticteapot:  okey, i'll try this way :-)
[10:53] <xtknight> napster, ok your wireless is not being detected righT?
[10:53] <EnsignRedshirt> MetalWolf: Groovy.
[10:53] <Pricey> LaNCeloT_RW, chroot perhaps?
[10:53] <napster> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13582
[10:53] <Pollywog> the equivs package is very handy sometimes
[10:53] <Pricey> LaNCeloT_RW, if you want to use --force then you shouldn't be doing it
[10:53] <napster> xtknight, no its not
[10:54] <xtknight> napster, doesn't even have a PCI ID for it
[10:54] <xtknight> napster, what's the wireless adapter?
[10:54] <Arcad3> napster are u from Romania?
[10:54] <CHORUSS> hello, I have a problem: I want try Ubuntu 6.10, during loading the installation I get a brown screen and starting hangs... could anyone help me?
[10:54] <LjL> baktaah: so an "ls /tmp", do you see anything that looks like a java-related file? (such as j2sdksomething)
[10:54] <spasticteapot> CHORUSS: Can you boot from a LiveCD?
[10:54] <napster> xtknight, no  from Ghana
[10:54] <bluefox> having serious problems with a system, the mbr seems to be hosed, how can i fix it? what package is "fixmbr" in?
[10:54] <xtknight> napster, Arcad3 asked
[10:54] <CHORUSS> it is Live cd
[10:54] <baktaah> LjL n o
[10:54] <xtknight> Arcad3, ^^ :P
[10:54] <ppda> howto execute a command when pushing the poweroff button ?
[10:55] <napster> xtknight, the card is branded airlink
[10:55] <bluefox> !fixmbr
[10:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:55] <|thunder> hey all, The free shared web server from godaddy.com is adding this:
[10:55] <|thunder> <script language='javascript' src='https://a12.alphagodaddy.com/hosting_ads/gd01.js'></script>
[10:55] <|thunder> to the end of my htmls. and thoughts on how to block it ?
[10:55] <xtknight> ppda, acpi event i believe
[10:55] <gortba> Can anyone lead me to a GOOD forum or guide to networking the computers in my home? I can't seem to figure this out/
[10:55] <LaNCeloT_RW> Pricey:  i'll try with --force-acrhtecture .. if doesnt work, i'll try to compile it
[10:55] <bluefox> that didn't help a bit...
[10:55] <Pricey> LaNCeloT_RW, DON'T do it
[10:55] <xtknight> |thunder, this isn't the place to ask i'm afraid
[10:55] <Pricey> LaNCeloT_RW, you are asking for breakage.
[10:55] <sirkism> thanks for the link bluefox
[10:56] <xtknight> napster, so what is this card
[10:56] <LjL> baktaah: they "no" and so exit. type "sudo apt-get update" and then "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre" again, and please pastebin the entire thing - input, output, prompts, everything.
[10:56] <Pricey> LaNCeloT_RW, either install into a chroot, find 64bit package or build yourself
[10:56] <|thunder> xtknight; i answer off-topic questions ALL the time here for folks.
[10:56] <xtknight> napster, pci, usb, pcmcia.  laptop or pc?
[10:56] <napster> Arcad3, from ghana
[10:56] <Pricey> !offtopic > |thunder (see the pm from ubotu)
[10:56] <spasticteapot> |thunder: What's the meaning of life?
[10:56] <LaNCeloT_RW> Pricey:  ok, i'll search for a 64bit package tar.gz and compile it
[10:56] <bluefox> how do i fix a broken mbr from inside the installer disk?
[10:56] <napster> xtknight, laptop
[10:56] <Arcad3> i have a friend nicknamed napster here in ro
[10:57] <baktaah> !pastebin
[10:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:57] <xtknight> bluefox, would you like to restore the GURB mbr
[10:57] <spasticteapot> LaNCeloT_RW: You should'nt need to - any .tar.gz should compile as necessary.
[10:57] <spasticteapot> I think.
[10:57] <napster> Arcad3,  ok
[10:57] <xtknight> napster, is this a usb or pcmcia card on the laptop?
[10:57] <baktaah> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13583/
[10:57] <SideshowMel> ok, so I'm a n00b to IRC, too.
[10:57] <napster> Arcad3,  are u in romania?
[10:57] <bluefox> no, restoring grub doesn't work it gives an error code of 20 and then everything freezes
[10:57] <dougsko> ppda: what are you trying to make it do?
[10:57] <xtknight> napster, any other details you can provide?  manufacturer? airlink.  chipset? ???? model? ???
[10:57] <gortba> Can anyone lead me to a GOOD forum or guide to networking the computers in my home? I can't seem to figure this out.
[10:57] <napster> xtknight, pcmcia
[10:57] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi: i cant hook it up to a monitor cuz i dont have the proper cables
[10:57] <underdog5004> anyone ever use golb? if so, can you help me?
[10:58] <KnowledgEngineer> for low latency kernel what i need enable about preempt
[10:58] <KnowledgEngineer> 1) ( ) No Forced Preemption (Server)
[10:58] <KnowledgEngineer> 2) ( ) Voluntary Kernel Preemption (Desktop)
[10:58] <KnowledgEngineer> 3) ( ) Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop)
[10:58] <xtknight> napster, see if you can find it in "sudo lspci -vv".  and then paste the block of code to pastebin
[10:58] <SideshowMel> spasticteapot I sent you pm.
[10:58] <LaNCeloT_RW> spasticteapot:  im downloading gimpshop-x-x-x.tar.bz2 to compile it and test :-)
[10:58] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, low latency desktop...preemptible kernel
[10:58] <Toran> OK, I have my grandfather set up with ubuntu. Normal everything works great for him today, but he just called with a problem where firefox was only printing half of a page. He doesn't live near me, so I couldn't see it for myself, and it was fairly hard to get details. Has anyone ever had this problem
[10:58] <j3g> i have installed ubuntu 64 bits... what is the 32bit emulation libraries package name? i can't find it on the apt-cache
[10:58] <SideshowMel> could it be the print settings in Firefox?
[10:58] <xtknight> j3g, ia32-* and linux32
[10:58] <newbie123> zulfajuniadi still around?
[10:58] <Arcad3> one happy ubuntu user (Desktop and server) 1 year of use...gaming programming chatting no need for windows as OS (just some softwares) :)
[10:58] <underdog5004> j3g, chroot
[10:58] <underdog5004> I think
[10:58] <spasticteapot> SideshowMel: No, you did'nt.
[10:58] <SideshowMel> if you "print preview" you can set the % to "fit to page"
[10:59] <vlt|home> Hello. Are there any known problems with the last securuty update and initrd?
[10:59] <LjL> baktaah: the package that is refusing to install is *not* sun-java5-bin, but another package (j2sdk1.4-doc) that you must have fiddled with earlier. sun-java5-bin is installed.
[10:59] <Pricey> !gimpshop | LaNCeloT_RW
[10:59] <ubotu> LaNCeloT_RW: gimpshop is a hack that makes The Gimp look and feel more like Photoshop.  A .deb for Ubuntu is available via http://plasticbugs.com/?page_id=294
[10:59] <LjL> baktaah: try  sudo apt-get --purge remove j2sdk1.4-doc 
[10:59] <safer> xtknight: could it be that I have i386 installed?
[10:59] <SideshowMel> Sapticteapot did you get that pm?
[10:59] <ppda> dougsko: I have a tablet pc. When I have no access to the keyboerd, the only active button available is poweroff. I would like to add an icon in the menu that appears when pushing poweroff or forcing a alt-tab keystroke.
[10:59] <xtknight> safer, no
[10:59] <xtknight> safer, i dont think so.  you're the one with the missing dvd drives?
[10:59] <napster> xtknight, model: AWLC3026T manufacturer: Airlink
[10:59] <baktaah> LjL done
[10:59] <SideshowMel> spasticteapot did you get my pm?
[10:59] <xtknight> napster, ok that helps a lot
[11:00] <spasticteapot> Nope.
[11:00] <baktaah> LjL  but baktaah@baktaah:~$ java version
[11:00] <baktaah> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: version
[11:00] <safer> xtknight: as far as I  know..........
[11:00] <dougsko> ppda: well, you can set it up pretty easily to run scripts and stuff during shutdown
[11:00] <spasticteapot> SideshowMel: Try #spasticteapot
[11:00] <LaNCeloT_RW> Pricey:  yeah, there's a Ubuntu package on the site, but it is only i386
[11:00] <dooglus> SlimeyPete: maybe if the whole live CD was in cache, *then* it would be safe to remove it.
[11:00] <ppda> dougsko: afaik it's related to gnome-poweror-manager
[11:00] <lcng^bastl> hi is there anything i can to against the white screen when i want to start desktop effect?
[11:00] <spasticteapot> SideshowMel: Have you registered?
[11:00] <bluefox> are there any helpful tools for fixing an mbr on the installer disk?
[11:00] <SideshowMel> #spasticteapot so if a task scheduler is built into kernel, that means I could use it after installing Ubuntu without finding add-on packages?
[11:00] <LjL> baktaah: ... and? "java version" is a command that would try to execute the "version" class. of course, no such class exists.
[11:00] <UNDERsoN> Which packeages I sould install for compiling kernel
[11:00] <ppda> dougsko: I don't want to shutdown, just use this button to wake up my pc
[11:01] <SideshowMel> balh... what am I doing wrong... I'm a total IRC n00b
[11:01] <baktaah> LjL how does one find out the version of the java..
[11:01] <LjL> baktaah: try "java -version", i'm guessing that's what you really wanted to type.
[11:01] <spasticteapot> SideshowMel: #spasticteapot is a channel.
[11:01] <baktaah> LjL yeah thanks
[11:01] <spasticteapot> Do "/join #spasticteapot"
[11:01] <spasticteapot> And yes, there should be a way to do configure this stuff through the terminal.
[11:01] <xtknight> napster, it might be this driver. http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php?title=Downloads
[11:01] <dougsko> ppda: http://synapse.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/run-a-script-on-startup-shutdown-in-linux/
[11:01] <Slart> Are there any software for ubuntu/linux to reencode a dvd movie, from dvd9 to dvd5 ? basically I want to copy a movie and burn it on a single layer dvd
[11:02] <vany1> I have a dist upgrade question and I've never used IRC before - should I just fire away?
[11:02] <UNDERsoN> Which packeages I should install for compiling kernel ( I have error when making make menuconfig
[11:02] <Malachi> I seem to have lost my swap partition....is there any way to get it back?
[11:02] <safer> xtknight: what should I do? reconnect the drives?
[11:02] <LjL> vany1: yes
[11:02] <dooglus> vany1: you should
[11:02] <xtknight> !info dvd::rip | Slart
[11:02] <SideshowMel> sorry guys, I'm figuring it out...
[11:02] <xtknight> i /think/ that should do it
[11:02] <LjL> Malachi: how might you have "lost" it?
[11:02] <xtknight> safer, i'd suggest that
[11:02] <CHORUSS> hello, I have a problem: I want try Ubuntu 6.10, during loading the installation I get a brown screen and starting hangs... could anyone help me?
[11:02] <ubotu> slart: dvdrip: perl front end for transcode. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:0.98.1-0.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 718 kB, installed size 2084 kB
[11:02] <Malachi> It used to be /dev/hda5, now it doesn't mount, LjL.
[11:02] <carlosqueso> UNDERsoN: build-essential kernel-package and initramfs-tools
[11:02] <Malachi> I tried mounting it manually.
[11:02] <xtknight> safer, do the drives work in windows, or anything else
[11:02] <LjL> Malachi: and the error is?
[11:02] <Malachi> Hold on.
[11:02] <safer> xtknight: yes they do
[11:02] <vlt|home> Yesterday I ran the current update (including initrd) using aptitiude. During that update the disks hde and hdf (not mentioned in fs/mtab) were accessed. Now the system doesn't boot anymore unless I chose 2.6.17-10 manually. What could be wrong here?
[11:03] <Slart> xtknight: oh. it does dvd to dvd also? I've only used it for dvd to avi
[11:03] <napster> xtknight, i pasted the info at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13584/
[11:03] <Malachi> LjL, while I try to find the command, where can I post my /etc/fstab?
[11:03] <xtknight> safer, ubuntu is not picking up your controller then
[11:03] <dougsko> ppda: oh ok, well, the gnome-power-manager is just a backend to gnome's power manager menu. im pretty sure its not meant to be used by itself
[11:03] <safer> xtknight: I even used them to install this os lol
[11:03] <xtknight> Slart, not sure
[11:03] <LjL> !pastebin > Malachi    (Malachi, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:03] <LjL> Malachi: post the output of  sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda  while you're there
[11:03] <xtknight> safer, hmm.  well i stil think it's a module problem
[11:03] <ppda> dougsko: hosto modify the content of this menu ?
[11:03] <baktaah> LjL thanks btw is it /usr/bin/javac "%f"
[11:04] <dougsko> ppda: im not sure. thats some serious gnome hacking
[11:04] <xtknight> napster, hmm doesn't seem to be much pertinent info on the airlink pcmcia there
[11:04] <xtknight> cardbus = pcmcia? or no
[11:04] <Malachi> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13585/
[11:04] <KnowledgEngineer> ho fatto una piccola modifica alla configurazione del kernel
[11:04] <gortba> Can anyone lead me to a GOOD forum or guide to networking the computers in my home? I can't seem to figure this out. Im a newbie. All my machines have some distro of linux.
[11:04] <Malachi> I'll do the fdisk now.
[11:04] <LjL> !it | KnowledgEngineer
[11:04] <ubotu> KnowledgEngineer: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:04] <safer> xtknight: so still the only thing to do is power down........I think it must be something other that the drives cause BOTH of them are not detected
[11:04] <KnowledgEngineer> hosp
[11:04] <napster> xtknight, i havent inserted it since i rebooted
[11:04] <KnowledgEngineer> hops
[11:04] <dougsko> ppda: there's probably an easier way, but im still kind of confused as to what youre trying to do. you have a power-off button, but you dont want it to power off, just wake up?
[11:04] <CHORUSS> hello, I have a problem: I want try Ubuntu 6.10, during loading the installation I get a brown screen and starting hangs... could anyone help me, please?
[11:04] <safer> xtknight: I dont' know what the controller is that you speak of but that is most likely the problem
[11:04] <LjL> Malachi: post the output of  blkid  too
[11:05] <xtknight> safer, you're right.  the controller to which both of the drives is connected, is not being detected properly by linux.
[11:05] <KnowledgEngineer> i copied the /boot/configurationfile in /kernelsourcedirecto/.config
[11:05] <vany1> Cool - I'm dist. upgrading a fresh herd 5 install and I had to look at the differences in a gdm.conf file, but now I have no prompt in the terminal and so no way to choose how to proceed.  Should I kill the dist upgrader and try again?
[11:05] <ompaul> CHORUSS, likely that is bad ram
[11:05] <KnowledgEngineer> i endabled some support
[11:05] <xtknight> napster, i would suggest inserting it for a start :)
[11:05] <KnowledgEngineer> now how can i build it?
[11:05] <LjL> vany1: "q" to exit that view
[11:05] <xtknight> napster, i suppose it's good you didn't immediately.  this way we can watch events as you plug in the pcmcia
[11:05] <CHORUSS> no, it isnt
[11:05] <baktaah> is it /usr/bin/javac "%f" ?
[11:05] <LjL> vany1: for feisty support, though, you should use #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <baktaah> for ubuntu?
[11:05] <LjL> baktaah: i think it is
[11:05] <Malachi> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13586/
[11:06] <napster> xtknight, when i insert it then i have problems runnning some things
[11:06] <ompaul> CHORUSS, I had a box where it would install that other thing - but would not deal with ubuntu and that was the issue
[11:06] <safer> xtknight: and with this said ---- how to I attempt to solve this then? I hope I dont have to reinstall linux
[11:06] <vany1> Thanks all, I'll use the proper channel in the future.
[11:06] <DevLaVaca> Hi, I'm trying to write a script that will launch Gaim after a delay and then close itself.  I have this script:  "sleep 20s && gaim && exit 0", but the script persists in my process list.  What do I need to do?
[11:06] <baktaah> LjL okay how come it doesnt compile then :/
[11:06] <carlosqueso> CHORUSS: you could try to install from the alternate CD
[11:06] <dooglus> DevLaVaca: "sleep 20 && nohup gaim & exit 0"
[11:06] <xtknight> napster, i would suggest doing it anyway.  we may be able to fix it all
[11:07] <napster> xtknight, problem i was encoutering before rebooting
[11:07] <DevLaVaca> Thanks!
[11:07] <xtknight> safer, uhhh i dont know, to be honest.  Edgy or Feisty?
[11:07] <dooglus> DevLaVaca: it's just an estimate
[11:07] <LjL> Malachi: hm, ok, how do you know it isn't working though?
[11:07] <safer> Edgy
[11:07] <xtknight> napster, well you only need xchat and pasteibn and terminal.  start everything you need now so you dont have issues starting apps
[11:07] <Malachi> LjL: 1) I can't hibernate anymore.
[11:07] <vlt|home> I just tried booting in "recovery mode": Everything goes fine until "Starting RAID devices. Please wait -- this could take a LONG time!!!" (or similar). Then nothing happens. no disk access, nothing. About 400 ml of Hagen-Dasz later booting contiues. Any idea why this takes so long now?
[11:07] <KnowledgEngineer> xtknight, i added the support in the configuration file using make menuconfig
[11:07] <ppda> dougsko: to be complete, I would like to use my tablet pc in my car for the children. I use Ogle to play dvd. When I switch to full screen mode, I have no way to switched back to window mode.  The pen cannot interact with ogle.  If I could find a way to display the power manager menu and be able to launch a simple 'alt-tab' keystroke, I would be able to get the control of Ogle.
[11:07] <LjL> baktaah: i don't know
[11:07] <KnowledgEngineer> how can i build the kernel now?
[11:07] <delcoyote> LjL: IS THERE ANOTHER WAY? DIDNT BACK UP THE GDM.CONF
[11:07] <xtknight> !capps
[11:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about capps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:07] <delcoyote> SRY CAPS
[11:07] <Malachi> LjL: 2) It doesn't show up in the File Systems under the System Monitor
[11:07] <napster> xtknight, ok. i have terminal running
[11:07] <delcoyote> sry again
[11:08] <Malachi> 3) It doesn't mount when I mount it automatically.
[11:08] <napster> xtknight, and i ahve inserted it
[11:08] <delcoyote> ymy fingers like sausages
[11:08] <Malachi> manuall*
[11:08] <LjL> delcoyote: yeah, undo the changes you made... i can't know which changes you made.
[11:08] <vlt|home> btw.: There are no RAID devices in the system right now.
[11:08] <KnowledgEngineer> make bzImage && make modules_install ?
[11:08] <xtknight> napster, plug the card in now
[11:08] <Malachi> manually* not automatically or manuall
[11:08] <OuZo> how do i use my yahoo with gaim as a IM? thanks
[11:08] <napster> xtknight, and i ahve inserted it
[11:08] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, i don't know, dude.  follow the tutorial.  it has everything you need.
[11:08] <safer> xtknight: Edgy
[11:08] <delcoyote> ok thanks LjL
[11:08] <xtknight> make-kpkg is easier than bzImage..
[11:08] <Malachi> OuZo: Just add a new account with your Yahoo credentials.
[11:08] <ppda> dougsko: I have other buttons to rotate the screen on the tablet, but using showkey it seems that they are not recognized or trapped under dapper
[11:08] <xtknight> napster, alright.  now type 'dmesg'
[11:09] <xtknight> napster, please pastebin the whole thing
[11:09] <LjL> Malachi: swap partitions don't "mount", though, when you do swapon -a, that's not mounting. but anyway, what about  sudo swapon /dev/hda5  ?
[11:09] <Malachi> Oh.
[11:09] <xtknight> safer, so did the cd drive work before in any form of Edgy (live,installed)?
[11:09] <xtknight> safer, you said you installed off the drive?
[11:09] <KnowledgEngineer> i think that make-kpkg do not build the kernel
[11:09] <safer> yes
[11:09] <xtknight> KnowledgEngineer, yes, it does.  it makes a deb which you install.
[11:09] <vlt|home> What does "[17179569.184000] " mean in syslog's "Apr  2 22:29:46 hostname kernel: [17179569.184000]  Linux version 2.6.17-11-generic ..."?
[11:09] <Malachi> LjL: "swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument
[11:09] <Malachi> "
[11:10] <safer> xtknight: i'm even almost sure i used it once before when I had the os installed on my other hard drive
[11:10] <xtknight> vlt|home, it's a timestamp.  cpu tick number to be 100% accurate
[11:10] <dooglus> vlt|home: it's the number of seconds since 1970
[11:10] <xtknight> or maybe it's not the cpu ticks
[11:10] <xtknight> safer, post a "dmesg"
[11:10] <vlt|home> dooglus: Only 17179569 seconds? When do you live?
[11:11] <dooglus> vlt|home: I'm still in the 70's
[11:11] <dooglus> vlt|home: why, where are you?
[11:11] <aricz> hehe
[11:11] <xtknight> install time-machine package, it will solve the problem
[11:11] <piglit> what is the relase date of ubunto 7.04 and what is the kernel version of this release??
[11:11] <LjL> Malachi: the one strange thing i can see in your blkid output is that it says type "swsuspend", not "swap". but i guess that's just because you used it for hibernation
[11:11] <xtknight> piglit, april 19th.  kernel is 2.6.20-xxxx right now
[11:11] <Jumbola> Well if i left my pc alone.. not doing any work..  then my HD going sleep :< i want to keep alive HD or system .. if i dont use pc. is it possible? HD or pc not going sleep ?
[11:12] <dooglus> piglit: 04/07
[11:12] <xtknight> 2.6.20-13 actually
[11:12] <vlt|home> dooglus: I'm in TZ Europe/Berlin. From when does this timestamp count?
[11:12] <piglit> thanx
[11:12] <xtknight> i dont know if they've freezed the kernel yet though
[11:12] <LjL> Malachi: i'd try  sudo mkswap /dev/hda5  WARNING make sure there's really not something else than swap on /dev/hda5, this command will wipe anything that is on the partition
[11:12] <xtknight> dooglus, it might be the number of cpu ticks
[11:12] <napster> xtknight, here is the info http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13588/
[11:12] <Malachi> Mkay.
[11:12] <Malachi> LjL: How would I be sure of that?
[11:12] <safer> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13589/
[11:12] <Malachi> I can't mount it to be sure.
[11:12] <gRaCiOsO> does exist the way to put more than only one ip addres in a network interface?
[11:12] <dooglus> xtknight: it might indeed :)
[11:13] <xtknight> gRaCiOsO, not that i know of.
[11:13] <baktaah> LjL u dont happend to know where to put javac "%e" and  javac "%f", I can't compile in geany :)
[11:13] <gRaCiOsO> xtknight,  so only one per interface ?
[11:13] <vlt|home> gRaCiOsO: Yes: `ifconfig eth0:0 <another ip>`
[11:13] <xtknight> napster, ...6000]  pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1000-0x103f could not be reserved
[11:13] <xtknight> napster, may be apic problems i dont know
[11:13] <vlt|home> gRaCiOsO: `ifconfig eth0:1 <yet another ip>`
[11:13] <LjL> Malachi:  mount /dev/hda5 /some/mount/point , if it refuses to mount it's probably swap :) the disclaimer was due, though. another useful program is the "volumeid" package, which can tell you quite precisely what is on any partition
[11:14] <dooglus> vlt|home: could it be the number of seconds since the kernel was built?
[11:14] <gRaCiOsO> vlt|home,  their will be in the same interface ?
[11:14] <dooglus> 17179569.184000 seconds is about 6 months
[11:14] <napster> xtknight, wat d u suggest
[11:14] <vlt|home> dooglus: No, kernel build time was Feb 2007, seconds go back to Sep 2006
[11:15] <dooglus> vlt|home: I give up then
[11:15] <xtknight> napster, umm.  well it says try pci=routeirq   and perhaps irqpoll
[11:15] <koriel> ubuntu 6.06 finds only one cpu how can I change that?
[11:15] <vlt|home> gRaCiOsO: eth0:0 and eth0:1 are different interfaces, but on the same physical device.
[11:15] <AlCantara> getting boot messages: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup. Differences: (offset:original/backup)" for fat32 partitions. could these be corrected via dosfsck without data-loss?
[11:15] <baktaah> Anyone here uses Geany?
[11:15] <Slart> xtknight: nope.. couldn't make dvd:rip a new dvd.. only avi's or ogg's.. any other suggestions?
[11:15] <Jumbola> Well someone can help? when ever i left my pc. for 1 or 2 hours. my pc or hd goes sleep.. well i dont want this? i just want my pc alive howlong i want?
[11:16] <ppda> screen rotation buttons on my tablet PC are not recognized. Anyone can help ?
[11:16] <russe11> Hi - I have ubuntu on my desktop and my laptop. I have several shares on my desktop (using the "shared folders"), and I can read them on my laptop, but not write to them. How can I give myself write permissions?
[11:16] <Pricey> How do I take a screen capture from the command line? (I'm running fluxbox)
[11:16] <imme> Anyone in here familliar with the sashroot user?
[11:16] <LjL> baktaah: it says "javac: not found" when you try to compile from geany?
[11:16] <xtknight> safer, "[17179608.284000]  ide0: I/O resource 0x1F0-0x1F7 not free." might be a problem other than that i dont know
[11:16] <xtknight> Slart, not sure
[11:16] <dooglus> Pricey: 'import' does it I think, from ImageMagick
[11:16] <LjL> baktaah: keep in mind that sun-java5-jre is the java *runtime*, it's not a java *compiler*.
[11:17] <baktaah> LjL oh
[11:17] <imme> Jumbola: Tried System > Prefs > Powermanagement already?
[11:17] <xtknight> !info sun-java5-jdk
[11:17] <Pricey> dooglus, any chance of spoonfeeding me? :)
[11:17] <vlt|home> dooglus: So if it's kind of time measurement, wtf happened between "[17179577.132000]  Probing IDE interface ide3..." and "[17179865.796000]  kjournald starting ..."?				
[11:17] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4918 kB, installed size 11412 kB
[11:17] <xtknight> vlt|home, well, NOP hapepned between then and then
[11:17] <xtknight> no operation..
[11:17] <CHORUSS> I need advice how to set a different graphic driver at bootup options, thx
[11:17] <dooglus> Pricey: I've got an alias that does it, but it's on my hard disk, and my hard disk won't talk to me at the moment :(
[11:17] <xtknight> no error i mean
[11:17] <Jumbola> imme: ya i tried that option
[11:17] <LjL> baktaah: what happens if you type "javac" (which is not "java" for a reason...) in a console?
[11:17] <baktaah> LjL okay for compiler?
[11:17] <Pricey> dooglus, ah ok nevermind :) /me continues to attempt accomplishing this basic and trivial thing
[11:17] <AlCantara> dooglus: bios powermanagement?
[11:17] <safer> xtknight: ok thanks for your help
[11:18] <LjL> baktaah: see the factoid xtknight just called.
[11:18] <xtknight> i'm very sure it's the CPU's TSC (time stamp counter)
[11:18] <baktaah> LjL ac <options> <source files>
[11:18] <vlt|home> xtknight: What does it wait for since the last initrd update that came from edgy-security?
[11:18] <dooglus> Pricey: first step:  sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[11:18] <xtknight> vlt|home, what do you mean?
[11:18] <napster> xtknight, u der?
[11:18] <xtknight> napster, i am
[11:18] <baktaah> LjL what about the factoid, should I download it?
[11:18] <LjL> baktaah: then you have some sort of java compiler installed, it would seem. still, geany gives "not found"?
[11:18] <dooglus> AlCantara: I moved the laptop while it was on.  it froze.  upon reboot, the BIOS sees no hard disk...
[11:18] <xtknight>  baktaah  sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[11:18] <napster> xtknight, u no wat it used to work
[11:19] <xtknight> or java6 from backports for 1.6
[11:19] <OuZo> Malachi: thanks
[11:19] <napster> xtknight, the card used to be recognised
[11:19] <xtknight> napster, oh, really?
[11:19] <LjL> baktaah: you probably want to, since i guess the javac that you do have is really GCJ, which, while being a very good compiler (it's from the GNU compiler collection), isn't really 100% compatible with Sun's java, i believe.
[11:19] <baktaah> LjL depends... it just says javac.
[11:19] <napster> xtknight, dnt know what happend
[11:19] <LjL> baktaah: ?
[11:19] <xtknight> napster, cardbus IRQ conflicts.  (IO APIC problem )
[11:19] <baktaah> LjL nevermind I intalled
[11:19] <russe11> !samba
[11:19] <baktaah> installed now
[11:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:19] <LjL> baktaah: i mean when you click the "Build" menu and then "Compile", in geany. what does it say.
[11:20] <xtknight> napster, boot kernel with "pci=routeirq irqpoll nolapic noapic acpi=verbose"
[11:20] <napster> xtknight, oh really
[11:20] <baktaah> LjL javac "untitled.java" (in directory: /home/baktaah)
[11:20] <napster> xtknight, oh really
[11:20] <baktaah> LjL untitled.java:2: ';' expected
[11:20] <xtknight> napster, really :)
[11:20] <napster> xtknight, wats that?
[11:20] <xtknight> napster, debug commands.  you have to make a new entry in the GRUB boot loader
[11:20] <Malachi> OuZo: Work?
[11:20] <napster> xtknight, in recovery mode?
[11:21] <xtknight> napster, nope... i'll show you
[11:21] <xtknight> napster, "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[11:21] <sogen> #ubuntu-pl
[11:21] <napster> xtknight, ok the menu.lst
[11:21] <xtknight> sogen, /join #ubuntu-pl
[11:21] <xtknight> napster, yes, it is open?
[11:21] <safer> Why is it that a lot of times, when using linux, and I click shutdown or restart, the screen goes black,  but the computer keeps running and doesn't shutdown or restart?
[11:21] <napster> xtknight, give me a sec
[11:22] <OuZo> Malachi: yes thanks
[11:22] <dooglus> Pricey: after installing package 'imagemagick', type "import file.png" and drag a region with the mouse
[11:22] <vlt> xtknight: Sorry, I was disconnected for the last 3 minutes: What does it wait for since the last initrd update that came from edgy-security?
[11:22] <xtknight> vlt, sorry i didn't understand that question
[11:22] <Pricey> dooglus, ok cool... i'm still waiting for this old machine to install :)
[11:22] <Pricey> thanks
[11:22] <napster> xtknight, no.
[11:22] <rollercoaster> Suppose one line of a kernel patch reads @@ -318,7 +345,15 @@, what does 345 stand for here?
[11:23] <xtknight> vlt,  it is always the number of ticks on the CPU's timestamp counter (or some multiple of it if not the exact counter).  it's an absolute value.  since the CPU started
[11:23] <AlCantara> getting boot messages: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup. Differences: (offset:original/backup)" for fat32 partitions. could these be corrected via dosfsck without data-loss?
[11:23] <xtknight> vlt, since the last reboot, rather i believe
[11:23] <LjL> baktaah: erm, then the problem is that your java source code has errors... :) the compiler is fine.
[11:23] <xtknight> napster, no?
[11:23] <xtknight> napster, what do you mean?
[11:23] <xtknight> napster, do you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[11:23] <napster> xtknight, wat about this // sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:24] <baktaah> LjL okay its pitty thought that it doesnt show w hat line the error is on
[11:24] <safer> Can someone tell me why when I'm using kubuntu the computer often does not restart or shutdown completely, and I have to hold down the power button?
[11:24] <ypSami> anyone know how to full screen vncviewer?
[11:24] <Malachi> LjL: Sorry, I accidentally hit Ctrl+L in XChat instead of the term, what did you want me to do?
[11:24] <xtknight> napster, oh gedit is having trouble starting again?
[11:24] <amendt> If I install feisty beta now is it just an automatic upgrade to Feisty in 22 more days?
[11:24] <LjL> baktaah: "untitled.java:2: ';' expected" means that the error is in line 2.
[11:24] <ypSami> and how to disable control temporarily in vncviewer
[11:24] <xtknight> amendt, yes
[11:24] <napster> xtknight, i use ubuntu
[11:24] <fifer_> Any quick tips on installing 6.10 with Matrox g450?
[11:24] <xtknight> safer, maybe #kubuntu can
[11:24] <fifer_> I see there is a bug on the issue but can't find a definitive answer on what to do
[11:24] <baktaah> LjL thanks
[11:25] <dooglus> Pricey: to snap the whole screen instead of a region, "import -window root file.png"
[11:25] <fifer_> Or some indication, but no specific steps
[11:25] <napster> xtknight, this isnt starting either
[11:25] <Slart> xtknight: I found a howto on how to make a dvd5 from a dvd9.. I'm going to give it a try http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/DVD9_to_DVD5_guide
[11:25] <xtknight> napster, nano isnt?
[11:25] <xtknight> napster, hrm i dont know what's up with your ubuntu
[11:25] <pingpongboss> does anyone have experience with a creative zen vision: m?
[11:25] <xtknight> Slart, cool
[11:25] <pingpongboss> i need to make folders and stuff
[11:26] <napster> xtknight, honestly i am thinking of formatting my hard drive
[11:26] <AlCantara> pingpongboss: i have zen touch. whats your problem?
[11:26] <Pricey> dooglus, thanks :)
[11:26] <xtknight> napster, lol sounds good
[11:26] <dooglus> !flash
[11:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:26] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[11:26] <pingpongboss> alcantara, I cant figure out how to put my videos/photos into folders instead of the default Photos or Video folder
[11:26] <xtknight> napster, i dont know about formatting.  but reinstalling ubuntu isn't such a bad idea if it's not much trouble.  apps not starting is not a good isgn
[11:26] <ypSami> How do you fullscreen VNCViewer?
[11:26] <xtknight> sign*
[11:26] <dooglus> !livecd
[11:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[11:26] <ferronica> hi room
[11:26] <napster> xtknight, will need to back up my stuff
[11:26] <pingpongboss> alcantara, i dont konw if the zen touch has that oO
[11:26] <xtknight> napster, next time make a separate /home partition
[11:26] <fifer_> One post sugests using mga driver 1.4.2 - How would I do that at install?
[11:27] <ferronica> any one tell me which theme to use
[11:27] <LjL> napster, do you have any non-official repositories enabled in your sources.list?
[11:27] <ferronica> not getting right theme :(
[11:27] <napster> LjL, dnt get u?????
[11:27] <KnowledgEngineer> root@ubuntu:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.17# make-kpkg --revision-1 --append-to-version=LowLatency kernel_image kernel_headers
[11:27] <KnowledgEngineer> Unknown option: revision-1
[11:27] <jrib> fifer_: have you tried using the alternate cd to install?
[11:27] <vendett1> hi all, I cant boot ubuntu, on the startup it loads everything until no IPv6 routers present, and then it just stays there...
[11:27] <ferronica> LjL: how to join ubuntu off-topic??
[11:27] <LjL> napster: have you used automatix, or otherwise added repositories that were not official ubuntu ones?
[11:27] <napster> xtknight, wats that?
[11:27] <xtknight> !offtopic | ferronica
[11:27] <ubotu> ferronica: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:28] <LjL> ferronica: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <fifer_> jrib: Not familure with the alternate cd
[11:28] <AlCantara> pingpongboss - zen touch does no photos + videos. but all the crappytive player cant use folders.
[11:28] <LjL> KnowledgEngineer: just guessing, perhaps it's --revision=1 ?
[11:28] <napster> LjL, i dnt know if i did
[11:28] <baktaah> LjL nope its not the code its the compiler
[11:28] <pingpongboss> alcantara, i tried mtpfs and finally made a folder, so i know it's possible
[11:28] <jrib> fifer_: cdimages.ubuntu.com  it's the text-based install, won't require X
[11:28] <Pricey> dooglus, wow worked perfectly, thanks loads :)
[11:28] <pingpongboss> alcantara, i just cant seem to copy anything onto it
[11:28] <napster> LjL, but dnt think i would do that
[11:28] <xtknight> napster, a /home partition separates your data from your system files.
[11:28] <LjL> napster: try  cat /etc/apt/sources.list , does it output stuff, or crash?
[11:28] <xtknight> i always just nuke my / fearlessly
[11:28] <pingpongboss> alcantara, just read somewhere that i should try the cp command
[11:28] <jrib> fifer_: arg, wrong link sorry.  This is the right one: releases.ubuntu.com
[11:28] <napster> xtknight, wats that?
[11:28] <pingpongboss> alcantara, thx for ur help
[11:28] <LjL> napster: if it outputs stuff, please pastebin it whatever it outputs
[11:29] <AlCantara> pingpongboss - these folders seem to be for file-transfer like an usb-stick.
[11:29] <napster> xtknight, really? how is that  done?
[11:29] <xtknight> napster, respond to LjL's question
[11:29] <KnowledgEngineer> I note that you are using the --revision flag with the value
[11:29] <KnowledgEngineer>    1.
[11:29] <KnowledgEngineer> However, the ./debian/changelog file exists, and has a different value
[11:29] <KnowledgEngineer>    2.6.17-10.33.
[11:29] <KnowledgEngineer> I am confused by this discrepancy, and am halting.
[11:29] <napster> xtknight, ok
[11:29] <AlCantara> pingpongboss - so the software for media-transfers cant use them
[11:29] <KnowledgEngineer> hops
[11:29] <solomarv> my wlan0 has mac 00:00:00:00:00:00. what to do?
[11:29] <xtknight> napster, it is done during install.  you make a mount point for /home
[11:30] <fifer_> jrib: Thanks, I'll take a look. I was hoping to just add a boot option during the install to take care of it, but I'm not in familure waters
[11:30] <xtknight> solomarv, "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up" doesnt do anything?
[11:30] <pingpongboss> alcantara, ah ic
[11:30] <vlt|home2> xtknight: What happens during the 288 seconds break between "[17179577.132000]  Probing IDE interface ide3..." and "[17179865.796000]  kjournald starting ..." since initrd was changed in the last security update?
[11:30] <sirkism> is there a gnome equivalent to the k3b cd burner program?
[11:30] <KnowledgEngineer> for compile tha kernel: make bzImage && make modules && make modules_install ??
[11:30] <LjL> sirkism: gnome-baker i suppose
[11:30] <xtknight> vlt|home2, initrd doesnt have anything to do with it
[11:30] <LjL> !kernel > KnowledgEngineer    (KnowledgEngineer, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:31] <sirkism> LjL~ can that burn isos?
[11:31] <LjL> sirkism: unsure
[11:31] <napster> LjL, give me s
[11:31] <solomarv> xtknight: it outputs "SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device" and nothing has changed
[11:31] <LjL> !burniso > sirkism    (sirkism, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:31] <carlosqueso> sirkism: yes it can
[11:31] <xtknight> vlt|home2, maybe im not understanding the question still.  initrd doesnt have anything to do with the timestamp.  between those times, no errors have been reported, that is all
[11:31] <raintheory> hey all...   can anyone help me with a feisty/udev situation?
[11:31] <iarwain> anyone knows of a dvdripper that hardcodes subtitles to mkv?
[11:31] <crane_work> Well, time to go home!
[11:31] <xtknight> raintheory, #ubuntu+1
[11:31] <LjL> napster: ?
[11:31] <crane_work> Later gus, cya tonight.
[11:31] <sirkism> thank you
[11:31] <napster> LjL, give me a sec
[11:31] <solomarv> raintheory: just ask
[11:31] <carlosqueso> yw
[11:31] <xtknight> solomarv, pastebin "sudo lshw -class network"
[11:31] <vendett1> does anyone know why i get 2 ubuntu boots?
[11:31] <napster> xtknight, hold on plssss
[11:32] <xtknight> vendett1, define "boot"
[11:32] <raintheory> xtknight, thx..  i'll try there
[11:32] <napster> LjL, this is it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13591/
[11:32] <vendett1> like i have ubuntu sometiing.something and its safe mode and then another ubuntu something.something
[11:32] <Slart> How can I chose what soundcard the default "beep" goes to?.. I mean the one the computer makes if a press backspace on an empty line in the terminal
[11:32] <vendett1> on the boot screen
[11:32] <napster> xtknight, during setup?
[11:32] <Slart> It's not going to the default soundcard
[11:33] <carlosqueso> vendett1: those are just old kernels
[11:33] <LjL> napster: it looks fine, which means your problem lies somewhere else. i'd give a thought about the possibility that your hardware is bad
[11:33] <xtknight> napster, LjL: doesn't look like he has any foreign repositories
[11:33] <vendett1> old kernels?
[11:33] <baktaah> LjL how do I remove GCJ and use Suns javac, and isthere a way to see wich one it is, and yes it is a compiler error
[11:33] <vendett1> so i have 2?
[11:33] <jrib> !multijava > baktaah    (baktaah, see the private message from ubotu)
[11:33] <carlosqueso> vendett1: they update the kernel from time to time, so you do have 2
[11:33] <LjL> napster: while on a live CD, install the "smartmontools" package and run "smartctl -H /dev/yourHD", check that it reports good health. run a memtest (available from the live CD boot menu), as well
[11:33] <xtknight> napster, during setup you specify a /home partition
[11:33] <vendett1> ok
[11:34] <xtknight> napster, let's not go there for now.  let's try and fix it
[11:34] <carlosqueso> vendett1: it's good to keep at least one old one just in case the newer is screwed up
[11:34] <dyrne> Slart: try 'nohup /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp&'
[11:34] <napster> xtknight, LjL, u think so? i gave it to my windows friend today and it worked fine
[11:34] <xtknight> personally i think it's a silly SW problem or acpi problem
[11:34] <vendett1> yea one of em doesnt work
[11:34] <Askar> http://hem.bredband.net/birgandr/bild.png
[11:34] <Askar> Does someone know what this mean? Its in swedish but maybe someone recognize it anyway?
[11:34] <Askar> I can try to translate if needed
[11:34] <LjL> baktaah: no need to remove gcj, just do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure javac" if i remember correctly, and "javac -version" should tell you which one you're using (or do "which javac")
[11:34] <carlosqueso> then I'd boot to the one that does
[11:34] <xtknight> napster, so what happens when you type "gedit" ?  It just doesn't starT?
[11:35] <vendett1> how do i find out which one is the latest?
[11:35] <carlosqueso> vendett1, it's the one with the highest numbers
[11:35] <Slart> dyrne: that didn't work..'cannor run command '/dev/urandom': Permission denied
[11:35] <xtknight> vendett1, latest kernel for edgy, or feisty?
[11:35] <dyrne> Slart: ok that was wrong and in the wrong channel and to the wrong person. your sound question threw me. sorry
[11:35] <lnxmomo> hi, i have been using firefox for 2 years and i have decided to install swiftfox. After install, it did not detect any of my codecs and mplayer-plugin does not work in it. Any suggestions (they worked in firefox btw)
[11:35] <baktaah> LjL both commands didnt work, javac-version does work
[11:35] <napster> xtknight, it appears to be starting but just goes off
[11:36] <xtknight> !info linux-image-generic | vendett1
[11:36] <ubotu> vendett1: linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[11:36] <Slart> dyrne: no worries. thanks anyway
[11:36] <xtknight> vendett1,   it's updated via apt.
[11:36] <LjL> baktaah: and tells you you're using...?
[11:36] <napster> LjL, didnt get u???????
[11:36] <Askar> http://hem.bredband.net/birgandr/bild.png
[11:36] <Askar> What does the thing in lower right corner mean? Its in swedish but maybe you recognize it from the picture
[11:36] <vendett1> ok, so my latest 1 doesnt work, and im using the old one, how do i update the new one so that its the same as the old one?
[11:36] <LjL> napster: what didn't you get?
[11:36] <xtknight> napster, type " ldd /usr/bin/gedit "
[11:36] <BlueStrider> How do you set programs to start up automatically on boot?
[11:37] <fifer_> Is there a way I can force the use of this http://buntudot.org/people/~jdong/backports/edgy/58721/xserver-xorg-video-mga_1.4.4.dfsg.1-1jdong1~6.10prevu1_i386.deb
[11:37] <xtknight> BlueStrider, system->prefs->Sessions
[11:37] <LjL> !startup > BlueStrider    (BlueStrider, see the private message from Ubotu)
[11:37] <fifer_> during installation?
[11:37] <baktaah> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13592
[11:37] <carlosqueso> vemdett1, are you on edgy or fiesty?
[11:37] <vendett1> edgy
[11:37] <solomarv> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13593/ is output of "sudo lshw -class network"
[11:37] <carlosqueso> hmm...and what doesn't work?
[11:38] <xtknight> solomarv, interesting: *-network:1 DISABLED
[11:38] <LjL> baktaah: right, i didn't remember that one correctly, but you said "javac -version" works, what does it tell you you're using?
[11:38] <vendett1> i just recently installed ati driver and compiled new kernel, n after reboot the latest kernel cant start
[11:38] <baktaah> LjL i mean which javac
[11:38] <keeters> does anyone know how to set the primary network interface?
[11:38] <napster> LjL, napster: while on a live CD, install the "smartmontools" package and run "smartctl -H /dev/yourHD", check that it reports good health. run a memtest (available from the live CD boot menu), as wel
[11:38] <LjL> baktaah: ok what does *that* tell you then
[11:38] <baktaah> LjL this is the output from "which java" /usr/bin/javac
[11:38] <sugarriot> hi
[11:38] <xtknight> vendett1, you must recompile ati for the new kernel.
[11:38] <baktaah> /usr/bin/javac <-
[11:38] <xtknight> vendett1, you have to either that or use the 'fglrx' in the restricted drivers
[11:38] <LjL> baktaah: type "ls -l /usr/bin/javac"
[11:38] <solomarv> xtknight: "echo 1 > /proc/driver/acerhk/wirlessled" used to enable the device, but not since eth1 was replaced by wlan0
[11:39] <xtknight> solomarv, i have no idea
[11:39] <LjL> napster: alright, which part of that did you not get?
[11:39] <baktaah> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 2007-04-02 22:42 /usr/bin/javac -> /etc/alternatives/javac
[11:39] <Askar>  http://hem.bredband.net/birgandr/bild.png
[11:39] <Askar> What does the thing in lower right corner mean? Its in swedish but maybe you recognize it from the picture
[11:39] <xtknight> napster, output of 'ldd' please?
[11:39] <napster> xtknight, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13595/
[11:39] <nf4> is there  a reson why  when there is a update  that it wants to install gnome screensaver even if i dont have gnome screensaver
[11:39] <eternaljoy> im on adsl2+ broadband.  I sometimes get up to 2MB/s.  Whats that in Megabits per second?
[11:39] <LjL> baktaah: annoying symlinks. try "sudo update-alternatives javac", let's see if i remember this one right
[11:40] <eternaljoy> whats 2MB megabytes equal in Megabits?
[11:40] <Slart> Is there a way to do a 'slow copy' in console? ie limit bandwidth or processor usage?
[11:40] <napster> LjL, can u explain how its done again?
[11:40] <xtknight> napster, alright.  you may just try creating a new user account instead of reinstalling the whole thing
[11:40] <vendett1> how do i recompile it for the new kernel when im on the old kernel?, is it the same as how i did
[11:40] <xtknight> napster, something in your gnome/user prefs is messed.
[11:40] <LjL> eternaljoy: multiply by 10, roughly
[11:40] <baktaah> LjL unknown argument `javac'
[11:40] <carlosqueso> !se | Askar
[11:40] <ubotu> Askar: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:40] <dougsko> eternaljoy: type this in google: 2MB to Mb
[11:40] <eternaljoy> LjL: really? ok
[11:40] <eternaljoy> dougsko: cheers
[11:41] <LjL> baktaah: "sudo update-alternatives --config javac"
[11:41] <dougsko> <3 google
[11:41] <dooglus> nf4: probably because you have ubuntu-desktop, and ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-screensaver?  or something like that.
[11:41] <lnxmomo> how do i get mplayer plug-in to work in swiftfox?
[11:41] <merj> Hi all , a quick question
[11:41] <napster> xtknight, so a new user will solve it?
[11:41] <eternaljoy> dougsko: it says: 2 megabytes = 16 megabits   could that right?
[11:41] <baktaah> LjL now it's between 2
[11:41] <xtknight> napster, probably
[11:41] <merj> Im trying out ubuntu from cd
[11:41] <bruenig> lnxmomo, make sure it is in the swiftfox plugins folder
[11:41] <baktaah> LjL 1.4 or 1.5.0
[11:41] <napster> xtknight, will i be able to use my card?
[11:41] <xtknight> eternaljoy, the multiplier is 8.  8 bits per byte.
[11:41] <baktaah> *+        1    /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/javac          2    /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/javac
[11:41] <lnxmomo> where is that?
[11:41] <bruenig> lnxmomo, how did you install swiftfox?
[11:41] <dougsko> eternaljoy: what xtknight said
[11:41] <Malachi> LjL: Sorry, I accidentally hit Ctrl+L in XChat instead of the term, what did you want me to do?
[11:41] <nf4> well it allows me to uninstall it
[11:41] <xtknight> napster, probably not.  but gedit will be fixed
[11:41] <eternaljoy> xtknight: thanks
[11:41] <LjL> napster: 1) boot from the Live CD    2) at the menu, select Test Memory (or whatever it's called)  3) let it run for an hour or two. this will check your RAM
[11:41] <merj> I would like to run wings3d modeling program, can I do so ?
[11:41] <lnxmomo> through automatix bruenig
[11:41] <Malachi> [I don't know if you answered, I left.] 
[11:42] <bruenig> !automatix | lnxmomo
[11:42] <ubotu> lnxmomo: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[11:42] <nf4> also it always wants to install the mozilla-totem  plugin when i use the mplayer plugin
[11:42] <eternaljoy> xtknight: so i get 16megabits per second on my adsl2+ plan, which can dowmoload 2Megabytes per second at max speed?
[11:42] <LjL> napster: the other thing is  1) boot from the Live CD again, but this time just let it start up normally  2) open a terminal, and type  sudo apt-get install smartmontools   3) type  sudo smartctl -H /dev/the-device-name-of-your-HD 
[11:42] <xtknight> eternaljoy, yea
[11:42] <eternaljoy> xtknight: cool :)
[11:42] <lnxmomo> oh sorry ubotu and bruenig
[11:42] <LjL> Malachi: last thing i told you was, <LjL> Malachi:  mount /dev/hda5 /some/mount/point , if it refuses to mount it's probably swap :) the disclaimer was due, though. another useful program is the "volumeid" package, which can tell you quite precisely what is on any partition
[11:42] <napster> LjL, then wat?
[11:42] <lnxmomo> how can i get round it without reinstalling ubuntu
[11:43] <LjL> Malachi: but basically, i want you to type sudo mkswap yourswappartition
[11:43] <Malachi> Thanks.
[11:43] <nf4> that cant be right becouse i have 12Mega bit max and i get 1megabyte down max
[11:43] <xtknight> napster, well login as a new user and see if gedit works, etc.
[11:43] <LjL> napster: then nothing, this is just to test your hardware (memory and HD) and see if it's OK.
[11:43] <bruenig> lnxmomo, if you can figure out where the swiftfox folder is, you should be able to link the plugins to it
[11:43] <delcoyote> I have a problem need to solve, is there a way to mount ide drive from sata drive, both have edgy eft installed, so i can copy files from one to the other?
[11:43] <LjL> nf4: ?
[11:43] <bruenig> delcoyote, yeah...
[11:44] <hekar> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[11:44] <dougsko> nf4: 12/8 = 1.something
[11:44] <vendett1> is edgy Linux 2.6.19 or lower?
[11:44] <xtknight> the drive from which you're executing 'mount' has no bearing on what it can mount
[11:44] <bruenig> vendett1, 2.6.17
[11:44] <napster> xtknight, ok. wat about wat u were suggesting at first.
[11:44] <vendett1> k ty
[11:44] <delcoyote> thanks
[11:44] <xtknight> napster, irqpoll, et al?
[11:45] <AnObfuscator> are there significant xorg differences between Ubuntu and kubuntu? for some reason, whenever I put an ubuntu live CD into my desktop and try to boot from it, the gnome session becomes completely scrambled
[11:45] <AnObfuscator> it's not the CD, and it does this with both 6.10 and 7.04 beta
[11:45] <xtknight> napster, i've got to run now.  may be able to help later.  these are kernel boot parameters "irqpoll pci=routeirq nolapic noapic acpi=verbose".  perhaps someone else can help you add them to grub.
[11:45] <xtknight> just tell them you have IRQ/apic problems
[11:45] <napster> xtknight, i have only one user to this machine and that what i am using
[11:45] <xtknight> napster, adding another takes less than 10M
[11:46] <xtknight> for debug
[11:46] <hacosta> hi, im trying to make a custom ubuntu cd (default packages, configuration files) is there any documentation on how to do this?
[11:46] <hekar> An0bfuscator try pressing f6 at the boot menu of the ubuntu cd
[11:46] <tux> hi all, does anyone know where to find the IPW3945 drivers for intel wireless?
[11:46] <xtknight> hacosta, by modifying casper  i believe
[11:46] <hekar> then remove quiet splash and insert verbose
[11:46] <xtknight> tux, should be native kernel module
[11:46] <bruenig> !customlivecd
[11:46] <ubotu> Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[11:46] <xtknight> my 3945abg works great
[11:46] <AnObfuscator> hekar: I did, and it still didn't work
[11:46] <tux> well it isnt xtknight
[11:46] <napster> xtknight, will i see u tomorrow?
[11:46] <xtknight> napster, youll see me in about an hour probably
[11:46] <AnObfuscator> so I installed from the alt CD
[11:46] <xtknight> napster, and probably tomorrow..
[11:46] <Ryugin> Hello. Gparted can't detect my drives. Can someone help?
[11:47] <hekar> hmmm what video card do you have?
[11:47] <Ryugin> Me?
[11:47] <xtknight> tux, odd.  i have to go now though.  look at "sudo lshw -class network" output and look at the configuration: driver= line
[11:47] <baktaah> LjL Done and DONE <- sealed :) thanks mate :)
[11:47] <hekar> no An0bfuscator
[11:47] <Ryugin> Oh.
[11:47] <napster> xtknight, can u help me register my id here so i can have a password on it?
[11:47] <tux> xtknight: what should the output be?
[11:47] <bruenig> !register | napster
[11:47] <ubotu> napster: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:47] <hacosta> capser?
[11:48] <AnObfuscator> hekar: 6600 GT
[11:48] <Ryugin> Hello. Gparted and the Ubuntu installer can't detect my drives. Can someone help?
[11:48] <xtknight> hacosta,  casper is the squashed filesystem for the livecd.  see ubotu's link above for custom livecds.
[11:48] <hekar> aww i had the same problem with my 6600le
[11:48] <xtknight> napster, via Nickserv?
[11:48] <AnObfuscator> heckar: what did you do?
[11:48] <hacosta> thanks!
[11:48] <madmike_> Ryugin, new install or rescuing a installation?
[11:48] <tux> xtknight: the wlan card is recognised
[11:48] <napster> xtknight, yep
[11:49] <xtknight> tux, what driver does it say ?
[11:49] <Ryugin> Madmike, New install
[11:49] <xtknight> napster, /msg nickserv HELP register
[11:49] <madmike_> Ryugin, what is currently on your drive?
[11:49] <tux> xtknight: resources?
[11:49] <hekar> i installed the nvidia-glx drivers from the terminal
[11:49] <tux> ooh
[11:49] <Ryugin> What do you mean? The OS? Windows Vista.
[11:49] <hekar> and it worked perfectly after
[11:49] <tux> driver=ipw3945
[11:49] <xtknight> i accidentally hid the menu bar in xchat.  any idea how to get it back?  funny i hit the OK button too
[11:49] <AnObfuscator> heckar: I'll try that now
[11:49] <napster>  /msg nickserv HELP register
[11:49] <xtknight> never mind.  right click view->menubar
[11:49] <xtknight> napster, just type it without the space in front
[11:50] <madmike_> Ryugin, what does gparted say when you start it up?
[11:50] <xtknight> tux, it is detected.  its interface may just need to be started.
[11:50] <pierre_> how come ubuntu cant detect my usb memory stick? rather redicilous if you ask me
[11:50] <Ryugin> It says "No devices detected"
[11:50] <xtknight> tux, it should say wlan0 ath0 or eth0 or something for interface name
[11:50] <bruenig> pierre_, detects mine
[11:50] <xtknight> pierre_, it can most of the time
[11:50] <xtknight> automounts too
[11:50] <madmike_> Ryugin, did you boot up with a live-cd? If yes, which one?
[11:50] <bruenig> pierre_, perhaps you should look at dmesg after you put it in
[11:50] <napster> REGISTER <abourdanza>
[11:51] <bruenig> napster, pick a new password
[11:51] <pierre_> bruenig, can you tell me how?
[11:51] <xtknight> napster, you left your PW in this channel.
[11:51] <Ryugin> I booted up with a Live cd. Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
[11:51] <bruenig> napster, and you don't need brackets around it
[11:51] <xtknight> napster, you must type /msg nickserv register PASSWORD
[11:51] <Ryugin> For Standard computers
[11:51] <tux> hm xtknight description is network controller, the wired one is a Ethernet interface
[11:51] <bruenig> pierre_, like I said, plug it in and dmesg | tail to see what is going on
[11:51] <nexous> Hi, How do I find out the IP of my notebook?
[11:51] <napster> xtknight, im not getting the command
[11:51] <xtknight> tux, i need this part of lshw "logical name:  "
[11:51] <tux> nexous: ifconfig
[11:51] <madmike_> Ryugin, open a terminal-window and run "cfdisk", what does it say?
[11:52] <Ryugin> Ok one moment.
[11:52] <nexous> tux: okay thanks.
[11:52] <bruenig> nexous, ifconfig | sed 's/addr://' | awk '/Bcast/ {print $2}'
[11:52] <xtknight> what's the help channel for this IRC network
[11:52] <bruenig> probably #freenode
[11:52] <MLimburg> its #support i think
[11:52] <tux> that's missing at the wireless interface xtknight
[11:52] <xtknight> napster, go to #support then.  apparently i'm not describing it in a way you can understand
[11:52] <whta> hi. if i run an update to the feisty beta on my current edgy install, should i expect to have to make any changes to old settings to have it run properly?
[11:52] <kkerwin> Hi, I'm trying to compile a package from source, but the package is having trouble locating the python headers. Error output and more precise description of the problem available here: http://rafb.net/p/1Du8r599.html.
[11:52] <kkerwin> I'm wondering if this is a bug that I should file?
[11:53] <Ryugin> Madmike, When I run "cfdisk", the terminal turned black and it says. "Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write.
[11:53] <AnObfuscator> hekar: do you know what "nvram" is? I keep seeing notes in my apt upgrade that it's not found.
[11:53] <NickGarvey> kkerwin, I'd do a little more work before you called it a bug
[11:53] <kkerwin> That is, with Ubuntu.
[11:53] <xtknight> napster, visit the #freenode channel.  they can help you Register.
[11:53] <nexous> How would I go about setting up an ftp for my pc? So on my network I can access 192.168.1.105 and ftp files to /var/www/?
[11:53] <xtknight> tux, odd
[11:53] <xtknight> tux, i'm afraid i dont know
[11:54] <tux> xtknight:  only one interface at the network settings
[11:54] <Ryugin> Madmike, When I run "cfdisk", the terminal turned black and it says. "Opened disk read-only - you have no permission to write.
[11:54] <xtknight> Ryugin, sudo cfdisk
[11:54] <hekar> uhh i no what it is, i just dont understand why it's complaining about it
[11:54] <madmike_> Ryugin, thats okay, do you see any partitions now?
[11:54] <AnObfuscator> What is it?
[11:54] <kkerwin> NickGarvey: It appears that the debian package installs the python libraries in /usr/include, rather than /usr/local/include as indicated by sys.prefix.
[11:54] <xtknight> gotta go
[11:55] <kkerwin> NickGarvey: I'm wondering if the package was built incorrectly.
[11:55] <hekar> its a type of random access memory like flash
[11:55] <whta> hi. if i run an update to the feisty beta on my current edgy install, should i expect to have to make any changes to old settings to have it run properly?
[11:56] <Ryugin> Ok. When I type "sudo cfdisk", it says the same thing. And when I check gparted, it still says "No devices detected".
[11:56] <jrib> kkerwin: are you using a python that you compiled yourself to /usr/local?
[11:56] <AnObfuscator> hmm, it says that the nvidia module has a different version from the x version
[11:56] <Ryugin> (By the way, I'm really thankful for you helping me)
[11:56] <kkerwin> jrib: No. It is the standard Ubuntu package.
[11:56] <madmike_> Ryugin, do you use a tutorial to install ubuntu and vista for dual-boot?
[11:56] <nexous> How do I remove a folder in terminal? sudo rm -f folder/?
[11:56] <jrib> nexous: rm -r
[11:56] <Ryugin> No. I haven't.
[11:57] <AnObfuscator> is there not a nvidia driver for 7.04 yet?
[11:57] <hekar> have you updated the xserver, if not type sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:57] <kkerwin> jrib: I'm wondering if the package was incorrectly built?
[11:57] <nexous> jrib: oh okay, thanks
[11:57] <AnObfuscator> yeah, I just did that
[11:57] <madmike_> Ryugin, Try this one http://www.eloff.se/tutorials.php?ubuntu_vista_dualboot
[11:57] <EADG> !curses
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about curses - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <hekar> i havent tried 7.04
[11:57] <AnObfuscator> hmm, ok
[11:57] <Ryugin> Ok thanks. I'll give it a try.
[11:58] <whta> on my xgl session, the shut down and restart buttons are gone from the shutdown menu..
[11:58] <jrib> kkerwin: on feisty sys.prefix is /usr, might want to see if anyone here is willing to test on their edgy install to make sure it is a package issue
[11:58] <Ryugin> MADMILKE, The tutorial says that it's for installing vista after you have Ubuntu.
[11:58] <AnObfuscator> I'll download the 6.10 alt cd and see how that works
[11:58] <napster> xtknight, i will probably use ewurah as my name the next time. most likely
[11:59] <kkerwin> Anyone willing to run a few commands on Edgy's python for me? No programming experience neccessary.
[11:59] <hekar> okay sorry i cant be of much help, im searching your problem
[11:59] <madmike_> Ryugin, do you have the CD's to install it afterwards?
[11:59] <Ryugin> Install which? Vista? No. My computer didn't come with the install CD.
[11:59] <kkerwin> Please try in python: import sys; print sys.prefix
[12:00] <kkerwin> On edgy, please.
[12:00] <madmike_> Ryugin, recover CD's only i guess then?
[12:00] <NickGarvey> well um
[12:00] <Ryugin> Not even that. It has some sort of built in System recovery program.
[12:00] <NickGarvey> kkerwin, on feisty.. it is /usr
[12:00] <Ryugin> Before anything boots....
[12:00] <kkerwin> NickGarvey: Yes. jrib pointed that out. I am using Edgy and am wondering if it's a problem with Edgy.