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Murrlin'ello12:59
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Jester45Hello01:06
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H264Hi01:19
H264kinda looks like Ubuntu (and others) are shorthanded as far as 56K modems go01:21
H264I have a selection of 56K modems to choose from...01:25
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H264is anyone around?01:27
PuMpErNiCkLe!anyone01:30
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?01:30
H264heh01:31
H264I just want somebody to hold my hand while I try stuff out01:31
H264lol :P01:31
H264hmm, this is an older 3Com modem01:33
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PuMpErNiCkLehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto is probably a better resource.01:36
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H264hmm01:58
H26456K modem support in Linux sucks01:58
Jester45becuase 56k modems suck02:00
H264I know...02:00
H264but I don't have a choice :(02:00
H264bbl02:01
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SyskaHi, I have a snmp cable router, and it says in the manual that I can monitor via a snmp client ... my question is ... what program can i use to monitor it?02:16
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Jester45!snmp02:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about snmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:20
Naughtyboy!smp02:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:21
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H264can I install RPM packages on Xubuntu just like I would on red had?02:26
Jester45kinda02:28
Jester45!rpm02:28
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)02:28
Jester45!alien02:28
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H264hmm02:28
H264http://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=561002:28
H264how should I install it?02:32
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Jester45install alien? sudo apt-get install alien02:32
KurtKrautIn Xubuntu, I cannot record my voice thru the microphone but I can hear myself thru the speakers. In Gnome, I have no problem. Anyone can tell my how to make my mic recording work in Xubuntu ?02:33
H264bbl02:36
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PuMpErNiCkLe!info snmp02:57
ubotusnmp: NET SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) Apps. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 891 kB, installed size 1260 kB02:57
PuMpErNiCkLeSyska: It's probably a useless feature.  Small networks can't make decent use of it, and there are better tools for monitoring large ones.02:58
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FreeKFC_guyim having trouble with mouse04:21
FreeKFC_guyits working all crazy04:21
FreeKFC_guyi move it to left it goes right04:21
FreeKFC_guy76 ppl but nobody wanna talk?04:32
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wjoe2003Has anybody tried to get their mediakeys working in xubuntu 6.1004:50
wjoe2003I have a microsoft keyboard that worked in gnome, but I didn't know if it was possible to get it working in xfce04:50
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brenthey guys, I've popped in a xubuntu live cd and now I'm at the GDM and it's asking me for a username and password.  what do I do now?05:07
brentthis 7.04 beta, btw05:07
wjoe2003not to say the obvious, but are you sure you didn't load from the hard drive?05:25
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naughtyboymornin..09:07
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MaxFrameshello12:24
MaxFrameswhen is 7.04 due to release?12:24
ormiretMaxFrames: April 19th according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule12:31
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MaxFrames:/ i'd changed the language of the session to italian and now it won't change back to us english01:10
MaxFrameshalf of the menu items are now italia, half english... do i have to remove the italian language support to fix this?01:14
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MaxFramesi don't understand... i've removed the italian language support, i've set the default language to english, i've set the session language to english, and yet most of the menu items are still in italian :(01:17
MaxFramesis it a bug?01:17
graziebuon giorno MaxFrames. I dunno if it's a bug...have you searched launchpad?01:19
MaxFramessei italiano?01:20
grazieno. sono inglese01:22
MaxFramesok01:23
MaxFramesi think the xfce menu file must be recreated?01:23
graziewhy?01:23
MaxFramesit contains mixed language items01:23
MaxFrameshalf italian half english01:24
graziethat sounds like a definite bug!01:24
MaxFrameschanging the language to english did not restore it01:24
MaxFrameswhat i did was this:01:24
MaxFrames1) add support for italian in the language support panel01:24
MaxFrames2) make italian the default language for new users01:25
MaxFrames3) make italian the current language for my current user01:25
MaxFramesimmediately, i noticed that not all the menu items and choices had been translated... some were still in english01:25
MaxFramesso I changed back the default language to english, both for my current user and for new users01:26
MaxFramesthis reset most things to english, except for the xfce menu which still contains items in both languages01:26
ormirethave you logged put and back in? (in case there is a cache that needs cleared)01:26
MaxFramesyes, multiple times01:26
grazieI think you should search launchpad for a bug that describes this...there may be a solution. If one is not already raised, report it yourself01:27
grazieMaxFrames: are you using edgy 6.10?01:27
MaxFramesis launchpad a bug reporting system=01:27
MaxFrames?01:28
grazie!launchpad01:28
ubotulaunchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/01:28
MaxFramesgrazie: yes01:28
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graziehow odd.01:29
MaxFramesthat i'm using 6.10? :P01:29
grazieno. odd you've got that problem on edgy...should have been sorted by now01:30
MaxFramesbrb01:31
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MaxFramesre02:35
f0rmathello i have just installed xubuntu 6.06 but when i boot up after it reboots it stalls just before the login screen :S i have used the upgrade facility on the disk to update from the xubuntu release i had installed before.02:35
_grazief0rmat: you had this problem immediately after upgrading?02:37
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MaxFramesgrazie: re my problem, i deleted the /.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml file and it was recreated, solving the mixed language problem02:38
grazieMaxFrames: it was disk cache problem then02:39
MaxFramesbut i rebooted02:39
grazieMaxFrames: seems to happen quite often on xfce. glad you sorted it02:39
f0rmaterm i did have the problem imediatley after rebooting02:39
grazieyeah but rebooting didn't clear the disk cache02:40
MaxFramesbye02:40
graziebye02:40
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f0rmati have had to boot into the live disk02:40
f0rmati have xubuntu 6.06 on disk02:40
grazief0rmat: so this is a fresh install that has never work correctly?02:42
f0rmatno it is an upgrade from the previous lts release of xubuntu02:42
f0rmat*LTS release02:42
grazieso it worked fine before the upgrade?02:42
f0rmatyes02:43
f0rmatit just doesn't allow me to login now02:43
f0rmati get past the boot screen but that's it02:43
ormiretf0rmat: can you get a text login with ctrl-alt-F1 ?02:43
graziedo you get to the login screen?02:43
f0rmatno02:44
f0rmatnot at all02:44
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f0rmatcan't ctrl + alt + f1 or f3 f4 f5 etc02:44
grazief0rmat: ctrl+alt+f102:44
f0rmatnothing works02:44
ormiretwhat about recovery mode?02:44
f0rmatjust light blue screen02:44
f0rmatno recovery app on disk apparently02:44
f0rmatit just says that there may be a way of using the live disk function to recover the install02:45
f0rmatlike the terminal L:S02:45
f0rmat:S02:45
ormiretthere is a recovery mode from the boot menu - you might have to press escape to get the menu if xubuntu is your only OS02:45
f0rmatit is not the only os and what should i do after going into recovery mode ?02:46
ormiretreconfigure X would be the first thing I'd try.02:47
f0rmatok erm LOL how do i do that ?02:47
f0rmatstartx02:47
ormiretdpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg02:49
f0rmatthankyuo02:49
ormiretI think...02:49
f0rmatthankyou02:49
f0rmat:)02:49
f0rmatill go now Thankyou all :)02:51
grazief0rmat: just do 'lspci | grep -i vga' to check the video card in another console (alt+f2)02:51
f0rmatoh02:51
f0rmatokl02:51
f0rmatthankyou02:52
f0rmatbye02:52
ormirethope it works...02:52
f0rmat:)02:52
f0rmatthanks02:52
f0rmatsee you later02:53
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f0rmathello again03:18
f0rmati am using console irc at the moment03:18
f0rmatcouldn't get the x server to work03:19
grazief0rmat: did you do 'lspci | grep -i vga' ?03:25
f0rmaterm03:26
f0rmat:(03:26
f0rmatfor some reason the keyboard is wrong and the : thing won't come out properly03:26
f0rmaterm03:27
grazief0rmat: just do 'lspci' and look for VGA in the output03:28
f0rmatit just prints my graphic cards name on the screen03:28
f0rmatthe command before i mean03:28
graziewhich is?03:28
f0rmatnot lspci03:28
f0rmatNVIDIA03:28
f0rmatNVIDIA GEFORCE ******03:29
f0rmatcan't remembver the rest i keep having to switch workspaces03:29
graziethat shouldn't be giving you any problems03:29
f0rmati dunno the ctrl + alt + f7 is just grey now03:30
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grazief0rmat: ctrl+alt+f7 returns to the gui....but you're not running the gui03:32
f0rmatCern03:32
f0rmaterm03:32
f0rmatbut it' grey with a mouse in the center03:32
f0rmatand i can move the mouse03:33
f0rmatjust nothing else03:33
graziedid you start X?03:33
f0rmati have had theis problem before and it was also upgrade related but in that one i downloaded the updates off the web directly thjs time i burnt the entire os to disk03:34
f0rmat:S03:34
f0rmatand yes i did03:34
f0rmatit goes grey then redirects to f703:34
grazielooks like X is running with a bad config03:34
f0rmat:03:34
f0rmatoh03:34
f0rmatwhere is the configs or how could i restart the Upgrade03:35
f0rmat?03:35
grazief0rmat: I'd boot the live cd....if X works ok on that copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try that on the hd installation03:36
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crdlbf0rmat, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh03:36
crdlbyou can run that from recovery mode03:36
f0rmatoh03:36
f0rmat:)03:36
grazief0rmat: you've already done that and failed03:36
f0rmatwait  a moment :)03:36
crdlbnm then :D03:36
f0rmatit looks different than the code before03:36
f0rmatit looks different than the code before03:36
f0rmatdifferent order03:37
crdlbsame thing though03:37
crdlbf0rmat, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -pcritical03:37
crdlbif you do that, it will make the config exactly as on the livecd03:37
grazie.me that sounds good to me03:38
f0rmat:)03:38
f0rmatwhat the03:39
f0rmat:(03:39
f0rmatit says xserver not installed03:39
crdlbyou typed "xserver-xorg" ?03:40
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f0rmatno03:40
crdlb!test03:40
f0rmatxserver.org03:40
ubotuFailed.03:40
crdlbyay :D03:40
f0rmat:)03:41
crdlbf0rmat, you need to type the command exactly as I posted it03:41
f0rmati did03:41
crdlbyou just said that you typed xserver.org03:42
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f0rmatand xserver-org03:42
crdlbxserver-xorg03:42
f0rmatoh03:42
f0rmat:)03:42
crdlbdebian/ubuntu has odd package naming03:43
f0rmat:)03:43
f0rmatyay03:43
f0rmatit says overwritten03:43
f0rmaterm ill reboot03:45
f0rmatsee you in a bit03:45
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f0rmatI am back but no xserver :(03:56
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robinlinth guys, I am looking for support for a problem that i have a year now! Yes, a year. The problem is a very slow computer. Upon reinstall, it is snappy and fast, but after a few months it becomes slower and slower. My specs are not bad, so it's not that. Somebody suggested that it could be X. Okay, so, maybe it is X. Can anyone please help me with this problem? Specs: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250, RAM: 512MB, HDD: Maxto04:04
robinlinthr  80GB04:04
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naughtyboyrobinlinth, : I'm not an expert in anyway..is till consider my self a n00b..but you got to be more specifik.... slow in what way...slw 3D or slow file transfer or slow booting.....be more specifik04:13
robinlinthnaughtyboy, everything's basically slow. from opening applications to opening a new tab.04:16
naughtyboyok....do you very long uptimes...with out rebooting e.t.c ..?04:17
robinlinthnope, i reboot often.04:17
robinlinthMy parents don't want me draining the electricity.04:18
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naughtyboyOK....have you checked your memory usage...04:23
naughtyboyin konsole type   free -m04:23
robinlinth             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached04:24
robinlinthMem:           503        478         25          0         33        24804:24
robinlinth-/+ buffers/cache:        196        30704:24
robinlinthSwap:         1474         21       145304:24
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naughtyboyok.....have u tried to disable servicec and startup scripts that you are not using...??04:27
robinlinthYes.04:29
robinlinthBy the way, I'm in GNOME04:29
naughtyboywell...it seemse to me that you have something eating your memory and/or swap...since you don't much ram you are using you swap pretty much...and in time both swap and memory will bu ful....04:33
naughtyboyI'm sorry that I can't give an exact answer...04:33
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naughtyboyhave you considerd running a liter window manager mabye..04:34
naughtyboyor changing you DE totally..04:34
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robinlinthGNOME is the only DE for me that feels right, and has all the features I need. Xfce doesn't have all those features, and I don't like KDE04:41
TheSheeprobinlinth: then use ubuntu not xubuntu04:46
robinlinthI AM on Ubuntu, but i'm looking for support wherever i can, because i've been trying to solve this for months.04:47
TheSheeprobinlinth: do you know how to use top to see which processes use your cpu?04:47
robinlinthTheSheep, Yes.04:47
robinlinthTheSheep, please join #solveslowdown. Lots of people are trying to help me right now04:50
robinlinthnaughtyboy, please do too.04:51
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delirusHello04:52
delirusDoes anyone know why Xubuntu (on a machine with two sound cards) would switch sound cards after every reboot?04:54
crimsunbecause pci device enumeration is nondeterministic.04:54
delirusAnd there's no way to pick a specific one?04:54
crimsunfor default? sure.04:55
delirusnothing resembling alsaconf?04:55
crimsunwe don't ship alsaconf; it's broken.04:55
delirusah04:55
crimsunsee asoundconf(1) set-default-card  and/or use negative index masks04:55
delirusah-ha! much thanks 8)04:55
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hyper_ch!repository05:41
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource05:41
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R2J2when i try to install xubuntu 6,10 live, it takes me to the partitionmanager but when i click next it freeze/not going forward, ive tested the cd and its ok. What could possible be wrong?06:32
somerville32How much ram do you have?06:33
R2J2somerville32: 512mb06:33
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somerville32R2J2, How are you trying to setup your partions?06:40
R2J2somerville32: i tried both with automatic resize, and custom resizing/adding ex3 and a swap. But now when i tried to run the manager from the gnome panel it said my hardriver contained a error, that could be corrected from windows running chkdsk06:42
somerville32Try the alternative cd?06:42
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R2J2somerville32: k i could try, strange tho cuz i shud have enough for system requirements06:44
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grazieR2J2: freezes while running the partitioner from the installer don't seem that uncommon....I've seen it myself. You could maybe try setting up the partitions before starting the installatiion?06:45
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null_lspci lists 4 usb controllers, one which is USB 2.0.  how can I tell which of my USB devices are connected to it?06:57
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null_solution: cat /proc/bus/usb/07:10
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=== hyper_ch needs professional help about a "home entertainment media server" :)
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hyper_chbasically what I was thinking off today is that I get some computer with a video out and network it also07:22
hyper_chthen I can plugin the tv at the computer07:22
hyper_chand then I rip all the DVD on the harddisks in there07:22
hyper_chso I that I won't need to use the dvd player anymore but can view whatever I want from the computer07:23
maxamillionhyper_ch: mythTV?07:23
hyper_chmaxamillion: what does it do? *smile*07:24
maxamillion!mythtv07:24
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV07:24
hyper_chmaxamillion: the reason for this is that I lend my dvd to people and I don't keep track who got what and I'm quite missing a few dvds07:24
maxamillion:)07:24
maxamillionoh ... that's no good07:25
hyper_chso I thought why not get some computer and have it hooked up with the tv and then just rip all the DVDs onto the harddisks07:25
hyper_chthey don't cost much07:25
maxamilliontrue ... very true07:26
hyper_chmythtv is like watching tv through the computer?07:26
maxamillionhyper_ch: yes, but you can also stream saved video to the tv ... its like a linux tivo implementation with more flexabiltiy07:27
hyper_chI dno't know what tivo is07:27
maxamillionoh ...07:27
maxamillionhyper_ch: you know what a DVR is?07:27
hyper_chmaxamillion: nope...07:28
maxamillionhyper_ch: oh ... uhmmm... yeah, just read about MythTV, i think it will do what you want and a little more07:28
maxamillionhyper_ch: or check out GeexBox (its a linux distro all its own)07:28
hyper_chmaxamillion: and what tv/graphic card is required?07:29
maxamillionhyper_ch: no clue ... never done it myself07:29
maxamillionhyper_ch: they should have documentation on their site07:29
R2J2it really doesnt work to set partitions to install xubuntu :( tried running chkdsk as it told me, also running the disk partitioner before starting the installation.. what more can i try?07:29
hyper_chmaxamillion: cool :) thx for the info07:29
maxamillionR2J2: what version?07:29
maxamillionhyper_ch: anytime :)07:29
hyper_chR2J2: what system are you using? dapper? edgy? feisty? and what install? live/desktop? server? alternate?07:30
grazieR2J2: the alternate cd does seem to be much more reliable07:30
R2J2hyper_ch: 6.10 live07:31
grazieR2J2: the minimal cd is also good if you've got fast connection07:31
hyper_chgrazie: not on feisty :) the altnerate is still bugged with the partitioner I think07:31
R2J2hm, k ill try alternate07:31
grazieno we're edgy here07:31
hyper_chR2J2: did you do the "check cd for faults" at bootup?07:31
hyper_chfor defects :)07:31
R2J2hyper_ch: ye it was ok07:32
hyper_chR2J2: then try the alternate :)07:32
hyper_chthe text based install means only not to have such fancy graphics as in the livecd :)07:32
hyper_chR2J2: but not that you need to enter commands yourself :)07:32
R2J2yea well, just rly strange the it behave that way :( hehe07:34
grazieR2J2: think it took me 3 tries to install xubuntu from the live cd on x8607:35
hyper_chwell, for me the livecd always worked... but I know quite a few others who had troubles07:36
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Naughtyboyjust going to try my sysinfo script once....hope you guys don't mind..08:01
Naughtyboyos[Linux 2.6.20-13-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[2 x Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 170    @ 2.70GHz]  mem[Physical : 2026MB, 90.7% free]  disk[Total : 949.91GB, 48.30% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 7900 GT]  sound[] 08:01
Naughtyboyyeaah...finaly..08:01
maxamillionNaughtyboy: please do that in #xubuntu-offtopic :)08:03
NaughtyboyOK....sorry dude...won't happend again  ;=)08:03
maxamillionno worries, just a friendly suggestion ;)08:03
Naughtyboyyeah no problem..totally understand08:04
Naughtyboymaxamillion, : starting to get my system sortet and konfigured as I want....got my networking/ network browsing working today...and linked in thunar....works great..08:06
maxamillionNaughtyboy: awesome!!! glad to hear it08:07
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j1mcmaxamillion: i got samba with thunar/fusesmb set up this weekend.  it works ok, but it doesn't prompt me for passwords to more secured shares like kubuntu does.08:36
j1mc. . . it just doesn't let me in to them.08:36
j1mcdo you think i'm missing something, or is the functionality just not there yet?08:36
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posingaspopularhey j1mc, how's tricks?08:37
maxamillionj1mc: not sure, i actually had the same problems because i work in a completely windows based network and all our windows shares are secured and i couldn't ever get it to connect08:38
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j1mcposingaspopular: tricks?08:38
posingaspopularj1mc, we really need to work on your lingo. tricks=business08:39
posingaspopularhow are things with you? etc.08:39
j1mcmaxamillion: i installed konqueror and nautilus to see if their network support would help me out.  (if could connect by them, but not by thunar, then i knew my prob was in my thunar / fusesmb setup).08:40
j1mckonqueror handled the connections the best . . .   it would prompt for usernames/passwords where nautilus and thunar would just deny entry.08:41
j1mcposingaspopular: i'm good.  :-)08:41
j1mcjust got back from lunch08:41
posingaspopularj1mc, i just had my first meal of the day. now im reading 'man-computer symbiosis' by j.c.r. licklider08:42
j1mcwhat's that about, posingaspopular?08:43
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posingaspopularummm its an article that he wrote in the 40's or so about the future of computers, the internet etc. before any of it existed.08:45
j1mcneato . . .08:46
posingaspopularj1mc, hang on while i find the information.. http://news.com.com/Lickliders+vision+of+the+Digital+Age/2010-1012_3-6167919.html08:48
posingaspopularthats where i found it08:48
j1mccool.  thx, posingaspopular08:48
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slow-motionhallo09:02
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posingaspopularthere are x-rays on my computer desk...09:28
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kalikianahwody09:30
kalikiana*Howdy09:30
Howdy125Howdy back09:30
kalikiana'did not feel like thinkin of a name'-syndrom, eh?09:31
Howdy125I can join and say howdy at the same time.09:32
totalwormagemagical09:39
Howdy125Not really09:46
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skarpaHello! I've installed Xubuntu on my computer and exploring the configurations, I've changed the screen resolution to 800x600 pixels. I would like to change it back to 1024x768, but this resolution doesn't appear in the display configuration window. Does anybody know how I can do that?10:05
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posingaspopularhi, i just installed xubuntu feisty fawn beta and i cant seem to connect to the internet or figure out how. i tried sudo pppoeconf but that didnt work out too well10:14
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spasticteapotHello!10:45
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spasticteapot'ello?10:47
posingaspopular!hello10:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:48
kalikiana!welcome10:48
ubotuHello and welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions or help others. If you'd like to chit-chat, please visit #xubuntu-offtopic and for developer discussion, see #xubuntu-devel :)10:48
spasticteapotHeh.10:50
posingaspopular#xubuntu-offtopic10:50
posingaspopularopps10:50
spasticteapotAnyone else using Fiesty Xubuntu yet?10:50
spasticteapotIt rules!10:50
kalikianas/opps/ops ;)10:50
spasticteapotFaster, and GORGEOUS.10:50
posingaspopularspasticteapot, yea i just installed it the other night10:51
spasticteapotI swear....it's awesome!10:51
spasticteapotStill can't click-drag-select on the desktop, though.10:52
posingaspopulari wonder how kubuntu feisty will look10:52
posingaspopularand feel10:53
spasticteapotEh.10:53
spasticteapotKDE?10:53
spasticteapotSloow.10:53
kalikianaspasticteapot, planned for xfce4.6 ;)10:53
spasticteapotAnd kinda annoying.10:53
spasticteapot?10:53
posingaspopularyea i like kde much more than gnome10:53
posingaspopularim mostly new to xfce10:53
spasticteapotkalikiana: Are you one of the devs?10:53
spasticteapotposingaspopular: It rocks.10:53
spasticteapotVery elegant - kinda like Mac OSX, which I used quite a bit.10:54
kalikianaspasticteapot, Not quite, only testing and bug filing :)10:54
posingaspopularit's pretty good, havent gotten to the net on feisty xubuntu yet, my modem hates linux10:54
spasticteapotkalikiana: Well, thanks anyways!10:54
spasticteapotposingaspopular: What's up with your modem?10:54
spasticteapotDial-up, I presume?10:55
posingaspopularspasticteapot, no its dsl, it just hates linux or ubuntu, not sure which one it is10:55
spasticteapot?10:55
spasticteapotEthernet or USB connection?10:55
posingaspopularit drops my connection to the internet all the time and is just weird10:55
posingaspopulare-net10:55
kalikianaI have a dsl modem which will freeze usb detection, too :/10:55
spasticteapotkalikiana: What are the keys that allow me to tile my windows?10:55
spasticteapotposingaspopular: That should'nt happen.10:55
spasticteapotTry ifconfig.10:55
kalikianaspasticteapot, alt+f6 and alt+f7 you mean?10:56
spasticteapot...that's probbably it.10:56
posingaspopularspasticteapot, i did, i tried that and it didn't return anything in the terminal10:57
spasticteapotThat's a problem, then.10:57
posingaspopularwell no i tried 'sudo pppoconf' then i did 'pon dsl -provider' 'poff' 'plog' and 'ifconfig ppp0'10:57
spasticteapotOy vey.10:57
posingaspopularand the last four commands didn't return anything10:57
posingaspopularthats all i tried10:57
spasticteapotposingaspopular: I'd try getting a modem with a built-in router.10:58
spasticteapotThey're standard issue over here.10:58
spasticteapotYou configure all the DSL stuff through a browser-based menu, and don't need to worry about any configuration on the actual PC.10:58
posingaspopularspasticteapot, i have another router. gonna try to piggyback off the modem and see what happens. imj just waiting for my brother to come and help me out later this week10:58
spasticteapotNot gonna work.10:59
spasticteapotSome modems require config information and such from a PC. Others can send it themselves.10:59
spasticteapotOne of the reasons I like cable is that the modems act as gateways.10:59
posingaspopularyea i really just want to get all my comptuers online11:03
spasticteapotposingaspopular: Get a cheapo machine (P1 or even a 486 should do it) and have it act as a gateway for your system.11:03
posingaspopularwhat do you mean by gateway?11:04
spasticteapotHave the router connected to it, and make sure that all the settings are correct - run windows, if necessary.11:04
spasticteapotIt's the computer on the network that all the other computers connect through.11:04
spasticteapotYou'll need to set up Masquerade for IPtables postrouting...which is a huge pain in the kiester.11:04
spasticteapotHowever, it's the best way to get internet on your network - I spent three weeks before I found out how to do it.11:04
spasticteapotPlus, there are dozens of tutorials.11:05
posingaspopularahh see, i was just going to hack the systems to ninja the internet through the router i have11:06
posingaspopularthat i have to set up11:06
posingaspopulari duno11:06
posingaspopularthis wouldn't be an issue11:06
spasticteapot?11:06
posingaspopularbut i REFUSE to run windows anywhere11:06
spasticteapotI don't blame you.11:06
spasticteapotThe problem with your type of modem is that it needs to be connected directly to a computer - not to a router or switch.11:07
spasticteapotHence, one computer can share the internet with the others.11:07
spasticteapotHowever, if that computer is not on 24/7, you're stuck. And it will slow it down a bit.11:07
posingaspopulari'll figure something out11:07
spasticteapotWell, the best solution is just to have a PC that's on 24/7 for the sole purpose of connecting to your modem - a Gateway.11:08
spasticteapotI spent a few weeks on this exact problem.11:08
spasticteapotAs an added bonus, using a seperate PC as a gateway will let you also add a firewall to your system, which is dandy.11:08
posingaspopularyea well the comp im on is always on. and its an xp machine, but i want to get rid of it for obvious reasons11:09
spasticteapotHeh.11:09
spasticteapotWell, then I'd set up an old machine with Linux (no GUI) and configure it.11:09
posingaspopularit would be alot easier if people would support linux11:09
spasticteapotYep.11:09
spasticteapotNot enough money in it, though.11:09
posingaspopularspasticteapot, yea im going to install server ubuntu on a box and use that11:10
posingaspopularbecause i need a server for a project im working on11:10
spasticteapotThat'll do it.11:10
posingaspopularneed to get a stable connection though...11:10
spasticteapotYou can set up a combined gateway/firewall.11:10
spasticteapotOr just get a new modem.11:10
spasticteapot(I like option #2.)11:10
maxamillioncan also make it a router with GNU/Zebra ;)11:10
posingaspopularspasticteapot, im going to have to pm you for real info in a few days, when i have all my stuff together11:10
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spasticteapotOkay.11:11
spasticteapotI spent three weeks setting up something identical to this - I'm no expert on Linux, but you managed to find the one thing I DO know how to do.11:11
posingaspopularspasticteapot, ha, yea i love when that happens11:11
posingaspopulari usually end up doing a !command in the support channels11:11
spasticteapotHeh.11:12
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