[12:59] <Murrlin> 'ello
[01:06] <Jester45> Hello
[01:19] <H264> Hi
[01:21] <H264> kinda looks like Ubuntu (and others) are shorthanded as far as 56K modems go
[01:25] <H264> I have a selection of 56K modems to choose from...
[01:27] <H264> is anyone around?
[01:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !anyone
[01:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:31] <H264> heh
[01:31] <H264> I just want somebody to hold my hand while I try stuff out
[01:31] <H264> lol :P
[01:33] <H264> hmm, this is an older 3Com modem
[01:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto is probably a better resource.
[01:58] <H264> hmm
[01:58] <H264> 56K modem support in Linux sucks
[02:00] <Jester45> becuase 56k modems suck
[02:00] <H264> I know...
[02:00] <H264> but I don't have a choice :(
[02:01] <H264> bbl
[02:16] <Syska> Hi, I have a snmp cable router, and it says in the manual that I can monitor via a snmp client ... my question is ... what program can i use to monitor it?
[02:20] <Jester45> !snmp
[02:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snmp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:21] <Naughtyboy> !smp
[02:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:26] <H264> can I install RPM packages on Xubuntu just like I would on red had?
[02:28] <Jester45> kinda
[02:28] <Jester45> !rpm
[02:28] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[02:28] <Jester45> !alien
[02:28] <H264> hmm
[02:28] <H264> http://www.usr.com/support/product-template.asp?prod=5610
[02:32] <H264> how should I install it?
[02:32] <Jester45> install alien? sudo apt-get install alien
[02:33] <KurtKraut> In Xubuntu, I cannot record my voice thru the microphone but I can hear myself thru the speakers. In Gnome, I have no problem. Anyone can tell my how to make my mic recording work in Xubuntu ?
[02:36] <H264> bbl
[02:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !info snmp
[02:57] <ubotu> snmp: NET SNMP (Simple Network Management Protocol) Apps. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 891 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[02:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Syska: It's probably a useless feature.  Small networks can't make decent use of it, and there are better tools for monitoring large ones.
[04:21] <FreeKFC_guy> im having trouble with mouse
[04:21] <FreeKFC_guy> its working all crazy
[04:21] <FreeKFC_guy> i move it to left it goes right
[04:32] <FreeKFC_guy> 76 ppl but nobody wanna talk?
[04:50] <wjoe2003> Has anybody tried to get their mediakeys working in xubuntu 6.10
[04:50] <wjoe2003> I have a microsoft keyboard that worked in gnome, but I didn't know if it was possible to get it working in xfce
[05:07] <brent> hey guys, I've popped in a xubuntu live cd and now I'm at the GDM and it's asking me for a username and password.  what do I do now?
[05:07] <brent> this 7.04 beta, btw
[05:25] <wjoe2003> not to say the obvious, but are you sure you didn't load from the hard drive?
[09:07] <naughtyboy> mornin..
[12:24] <MaxFrames> hello
[12:24] <MaxFrames> when is 7.04 due to release?
[12:31] <ormiret> MaxFrames: April 19th according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[01:10] <MaxFrames> :/ i'd changed the language of the session to italian and now it won't change back to us english
[01:14] <MaxFrames> half of the menu items are now italia, half english... do i have to remove the italian language support to fix this?
[01:17] <MaxFrames> i don't understand... i've removed the italian language support, i've set the default language to english, i've set the session language to english, and yet most of the menu items are still in italian :(
[01:17] <MaxFrames> is it a bug?
[01:19] <grazie> buon giorno MaxFrames. I dunno if it's a bug...have you searched launchpad?
[01:20] <MaxFrames> sei italiano?
[01:22] <grazie> no. sono inglese
[01:23] <MaxFrames> ok
[01:23] <MaxFrames> i think the xfce menu file must be recreated?
[01:23] <grazie> why?
[01:23] <MaxFrames> it contains mixed language items
[01:24] <MaxFrames> half italian half english
[01:24] <grazie> that sounds like a definite bug!
[01:24] <MaxFrames> changing the language to english did not restore it
[01:24] <MaxFrames> what i did was this:
[01:24] <MaxFrames> 1) add support for italian in the language support panel
[01:25] <MaxFrames> 2) make italian the default language for new users
[01:25] <MaxFrames> 3) make italian the current language for my current user
[01:25] <MaxFrames> immediately, i noticed that not all the menu items and choices had been translated... some were still in english
[01:26] <MaxFrames> so I changed back the default language to english, both for my current user and for new users
[01:26] <MaxFrames> this reset most things to english, except for the xfce menu which still contains items in both languages
[01:26] <ormiret> have you logged put and back in? (in case there is a cache that needs cleared)
[01:26] <MaxFrames> yes, multiple times
[01:27] <grazie> I think you should search launchpad for a bug that describes this...there may be a solution. If one is not already raised, report it yourself
[01:27] <grazie> MaxFrames: are you using edgy 6.10?
[01:27] <MaxFrames> is launchpad a bug reporting system=
[01:28] <MaxFrames> ?
[01:28] <grazie> !launchpad
[01:28] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[01:28] <MaxFrames> grazie: yes
[01:29] <grazie> how odd.
[01:29] <MaxFrames> that i'm using 6.10? :P
[01:30] <grazie> no. odd you've got that problem on edgy...should have been sorted by now
[01:31] <MaxFrames> brb
[02:35] <MaxFrames> re
[02:35] <f0rmat> hello i have just installed xubuntu 6.06 but when i boot up after it reboots it stalls just before the login screen :S i have used the upgrade facility on the disk to update from the xubuntu release i had installed before.
[02:37] <_grazie> f0rmat: you had this problem immediately after upgrading?
[02:38] <MaxFrames> grazie: re my problem, i deleted the /.config/xfce4/desktop/menu.xml file and it was recreated, solving the mixed language problem
[02:39] <grazie> MaxFrames: it was disk cache problem then
[02:39] <MaxFrames> but i rebooted
[02:39] <grazie> MaxFrames: seems to happen quite often on xfce. glad you sorted it
[02:39] <f0rmat> erm i did have the problem imediatley after rebooting
[02:40] <grazie> yeah but rebooting didn't clear the disk cache
[02:40] <MaxFrames> bye
[02:40] <grazie> bye
[02:40] <f0rmat> i have had to boot into the live disk
[02:40] <f0rmat> i have xubuntu 6.06 on disk
[02:42] <grazie> f0rmat: so this is a fresh install that has never work correctly?
[02:42] <f0rmat> no it is an upgrade from the previous lts release of xubuntu
[02:42] <f0rmat> *LTS release
[02:42] <grazie> so it worked fine before the upgrade?
[02:43] <f0rmat> yes
[02:43] <f0rmat> it just doesn't allow me to login now
[02:43] <f0rmat> i get past the boot screen but that's it
[02:43] <ormiret> f0rmat: can you get a text login with ctrl-alt-F1 ?
[02:43] <grazie> do you get to the login screen?
[02:44] <f0rmat> no
[02:44] <f0rmat> not at all
[02:44] <f0rmat> can't ctrl + alt + f1 or f3 f4 f5 etc
[02:44] <grazie> f0rmat: ctrl+alt+f1
[02:44] <f0rmat> nothing works
[02:44] <ormiret> what about recovery mode?
[02:44] <f0rmat> just light blue screen
[02:44] <f0rmat> no recovery app on disk apparently
[02:45] <f0rmat> it just says that there may be a way of using the live disk function to recover the install
[02:45] <f0rmat> like the terminal L:S
[02:45] <f0rmat> :S
[02:45] <ormiret> there is a recovery mode from the boot menu - you might have to press escape to get the menu if xubuntu is your only OS
[02:46] <f0rmat> it is not the only os and what should i do after going into recovery mode ?
[02:47] <ormiret> reconfigure X would be the first thing I'd try.
[02:47] <f0rmat> ok erm LOL how do i do that ?
[02:47] <f0rmat> startx
[02:49] <ormiret> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[02:49] <f0rmat> thankyuo
[02:49] <ormiret> I think...
[02:49] <f0rmat> thankyou
[02:49] <f0rmat> :)
[02:51] <f0rmat> ill go now Thankyou all :)
[02:51] <grazie> f0rmat: just do 'lspci | grep -i vga' to check the video card in another console (alt+f2)
[02:51] <f0rmat> oh
[02:51] <f0rmat> okl
[02:52] <f0rmat> thankyou
[02:52] <f0rmat> bye
[02:52] <ormiret> hope it works...
[02:52] <f0rmat> :)
[02:52] <f0rmat> thanks
[02:53] <f0rmat> see you later
[03:18] <f0rmat> hello again
[03:18] <f0rmat> i am using console irc at the moment
[03:19] <f0rmat> couldn't get the x server to work
[03:25] <grazie> f0rmat: did you do 'lspci | grep -i vga' ?
[03:26] <f0rmat> erm
[03:26] <f0rmat> :(
[03:26] <f0rmat> for some reason the keyboard is wrong and the : thing won't come out properly
[03:27] <f0rmat> erm
[03:28] <grazie> f0rmat: just do 'lspci' and look for VGA in the output
[03:28] <f0rmat> it just prints my graphic cards name on the screen
[03:28] <f0rmat> the command before i mean
[03:28] <grazie> which is?
[03:28] <f0rmat> not lspci
[03:28] <f0rmat> NVIDIA
[03:29] <f0rmat> NVIDIA GEFORCE ******
[03:29] <f0rmat> can't remembver the rest i keep having to switch workspaces
[03:29] <grazie> that shouldn't be giving you any problems
[03:30] <f0rmat> i dunno the ctrl + alt + f7 is just grey now
[03:32] <grazie> f0rmat: ctrl+alt+f7 returns to the gui....but you're not running the gui
[03:32] <f0rmat> Cern
[03:32] <f0rmat> erm
[03:32] <f0rmat> but it' grey with a mouse in the center
[03:33] <f0rmat> and i can move the mouse
[03:33] <f0rmat> just nothing else
[03:33] <grazie> did you start X?
[03:34] <f0rmat> i have had theis problem before and it was also upgrade related but in that one i downloaded the updates off the web directly thjs time i burnt the entire os to disk
[03:34] <f0rmat> :S
[03:34] <f0rmat> and yes i did
[03:34] <f0rmat> it goes grey then redirects to f7
[03:34] <grazie> looks like X is running with a bad config
[03:34] <f0rmat> :
[03:34] <f0rmat> oh
[03:35] <f0rmat> where is the configs or how could i restart the Upgrade
[03:35] <f0rmat> ?
[03:36] <grazie> f0rmat: I'd boot the live cd....if X works ok on that copy the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and try that on the hd installation
[03:36] <crdlb> f0rmat, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[03:36] <crdlb> you can run that from recovery mode
[03:36] <f0rmat> oh
[03:36] <f0rmat> :)
[03:36] <grazie> f0rmat: you've already done that and failed
[03:36] <f0rmat> wait  a moment :)
[03:36] <crdlb> nm then :D
[03:36] <f0rmat> it looks different than the code before
[03:36] <f0rmat> it looks different than the code before
[03:37] <f0rmat> different order
[03:37] <crdlb> same thing though
[03:37] <crdlb> f0rmat, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -pcritical
[03:37] <crdlb> if you do that, it will make the config exactly as on the livecd
[03:38] <grazie> .me that sounds good to me
[03:38] <f0rmat> :)
[03:39] <f0rmat> what the
[03:39] <f0rmat> :(
[03:39] <f0rmat> it says xserver not installed
[03:40] <crdlb> you typed "xserver-xorg" ?
[03:40] <f0rmat> no
[03:40] <crdlb> !test
[03:40] <f0rmat> xserver.org
[03:40] <ubotu> Failed.
[03:40] <crdlb> yay :D
[03:41] <f0rmat> :)
[03:41] <crdlb> f0rmat, you need to type the command exactly as I posted it
[03:41] <f0rmat> i did
[03:42] <crdlb> you just said that you typed xserver.org
[03:42] <f0rmat> and xserver-org
[03:42] <crdlb> xserver-xorg
[03:42] <f0rmat> oh
[03:42] <f0rmat> :)
[03:43] <crdlb> debian/ubuntu has odd package naming
[03:43] <f0rmat> :)
[03:43] <f0rmat> yay
[03:43] <f0rmat> it says overwritten
[03:45] <f0rmat> erm ill reboot
[03:45] <f0rmat> see you in a bit
[03:56] <f0rmat> I am back but no xserver :(
[04:04] <robinlinth>  guys, I am looking for support for a problem that i have a year now! Yes, a year. The problem is a very slow computer. Upon reinstall, it is snappy and fast, but after a few months it becomes slower and slower. My specs are not bad, so it's not that. Somebody suggested that it could be X. Okay, so, maybe it is X. Can anyone please help me with this problem? Specs: CPU: AMD Athlon 2800+, Videocard: ATI Radeon 9250, RAM: 512MB, HDD: Maxto
[04:04] <robinlinth> r  80GB
[04:13] <naughtyboy> robinlinth, : I'm not an expert in anyway..is till consider my self a n00b..but you got to be more specifik.... slow in what way...slw 3D or slow file transfer or slow booting.....be more specifik
[04:16] <robinlinth> naughtyboy, everything's basically slow. from opening applications to opening a new tab.
[04:17] <naughtyboy> ok....do you very long uptimes...with out rebooting e.t.c ..?
[04:17] <robinlinth> nope, i reboot often.
[04:18] <robinlinth> My parents don't want me draining the electricity.
[04:23] <naughtyboy> OK....have you checked your memory usage...
[04:23] <naughtyboy> in konsole type   free -m
[04:24] <robinlinth>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[04:24] <robinlinth> Mem:           503        478         25          0         33        248
[04:24] <robinlinth> -/+ buffers/cache:        196        307
[04:24] <robinlinth> Swap:         1474         21       1453
[04:27] <naughtyboy> ok.....have u tried to disable servicec and startup scripts that you are not using...??
[04:29] <robinlinth> Yes.
[04:29] <robinlinth> By the way, I'm in GNOME
[04:33] <naughtyboy> well...it seemse to me that you have something eating your memory and/or swap...since you don't much ram you are using you swap pretty much...and in time both swap and memory will bu ful....
[04:33] <naughtyboy> I'm sorry that I can't give an exact answer...
[04:34] <naughtyboy> have you considerd running a liter window manager mabye..
[04:34] <naughtyboy> or changing you DE totally..
[04:41] <robinlinth> GNOME is the only DE for me that feels right, and has all the features I need. Xfce doesn't have all those features, and I don't like KDE
[04:46] <TheSheep> robinlinth: then use ubuntu not xubuntu
[04:47] <robinlinth> I AM on Ubuntu, but i'm looking for support wherever i can, because i've been trying to solve this for months.
[04:47] <TheSheep> robinlinth: do you know how to use top to see which processes use your cpu?
[04:47] <robinlinth> TheSheep, Yes.
[04:50] <robinlinth> TheSheep, please join #solveslowdown. Lots of people are trying to help me right now
[04:51] <robinlinth> naughtyboy, please do too.
[04:52] <delirus> Hello
[04:54] <delirus> Does anyone know why Xubuntu (on a machine with two sound cards) would switch sound cards after every reboot?
[04:54] <crimsun> because pci device enumeration is nondeterministic.
[04:54] <delirus> And there's no way to pick a specific one?
[04:55] <crimsun> for default? sure.
[04:55] <delirus> nothing resembling alsaconf?
[04:55] <crimsun> we don't ship alsaconf; it's broken.
[04:55] <delirus> ah
[04:55] <crimsun> see asoundconf(1) set-default-card  and/or use negative index masks
[04:55] <delirus> ah-ha! much thanks 8)
[05:41] <hyper_ch> !repository
[05:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:32] <R2J2> when i try to install xubuntu 6,10 live, it takes me to the partitionmanager but when i click next it freeze/not going forward, ive tested the cd and its ok. What could possible be wrong?
[06:33] <somerville32> How much ram do you have?
[06:33] <R2J2> somerville32: 512mb
[06:40] <somerville32> R2J2, How are you trying to setup your partions?
[06:42] <R2J2> somerville32: i tried both with automatic resize, and custom resizing/adding ex3 and a swap. But now when i tried to run the manager from the gnome panel it said my hardriver contained a error, that could be corrected from windows running chkdsk
[06:42] <somerville32> Try the alternative cd?
[06:44] <R2J2> somerville32: k i could try, strange tho cuz i shud have enough for system requirements
[06:45] <grazie> R2J2: freezes while running the partitioner from the installer don't seem that uncommon....I've seen it myself. You could maybe try setting up the partitions before starting the installatiion?
[06:57] <null_> lspci lists 4 usb controllers, one which is USB 2.0.  how can I tell which of my USB devices are connected to it?
[07:10] <null_> solution: cat /proc/bus/usb/
[07:22] <hyper_ch> basically what I was thinking off today is that I get some computer with a video out and network it also
[07:22] <hyper_ch> then I can plugin the tv at the computer
[07:22] <hyper_ch> and then I rip all the DVD on the harddisks in there
[07:23] <hyper_ch> so I that I won't need to use the dvd player anymore but can view whatever I want from the computer
[07:23] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: mythTV?
[07:24] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: what does it do? *smile*
[07:24] <maxamillion> !mythtv
[07:24] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[07:24] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: the reason for this is that I lend my dvd to people and I don't keep track who got what and I'm quite missing a few dvds
[07:24] <maxamillion> :)
[07:25] <maxamillion> oh ... that's no good
[07:25] <hyper_ch> so I thought why not get some computer and have it hooked up with the tv and then just rip all the DVDs onto the harddisks
[07:25] <hyper_ch> they don't cost much
[07:26] <maxamillion> true ... very true
[07:26] <hyper_ch> mythtv is like watching tv through the computer?
[07:27] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: yes, but you can also stream saved video to the tv ... its like a linux tivo implementation with more flexabiltiy
[07:27] <hyper_ch> I dno't know what tivo is
[07:27] <maxamillion> oh ...
[07:27] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: you know what a DVR is?
[07:28] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: nope...
[07:28] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: oh ... uhmmm... yeah, just read about MythTV, i think it will do what you want and a little more
[07:28] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: or check out GeexBox (its a linux distro all its own)
[07:29] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: and what tv/graphic card is required?
[07:29] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: no clue ... never done it myself
[07:29] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: they should have documentation on their site
[07:29] <R2J2> it really doesnt work to set partitions to install xubuntu :( tried running chkdsk as it told me, also running the disk partitioner before starting the installation.. what more can i try?
[07:29] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: cool :) thx for the info
[07:29] <maxamillion> R2J2: what version?
[07:29] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: anytime :)
[07:30] <hyper_ch> R2J2: what system are you using? dapper? edgy? feisty? and what install? live/desktop? server? alternate?
[07:30] <grazie> R2J2: the alternate cd does seem to be much more reliable
[07:31] <R2J2> hyper_ch: 6.10 live
[07:31] <grazie> R2J2: the minimal cd is also good if you've got fast connection
[07:31] <hyper_ch> grazie: not on feisty :) the altnerate is still bugged with the partitioner I think
[07:31] <R2J2> hm, k ill try alternate
[07:31] <grazie> no we're edgy here
[07:31] <hyper_ch> R2J2: did you do the "check cd for faults" at bootup?
[07:31] <hyper_ch> for defects :)
[07:32] <R2J2> hyper_ch: ye it was ok
[07:32] <hyper_ch> R2J2: then try the alternate :)
[07:32] <hyper_ch> the text based install means only not to have such fancy graphics as in the livecd :)
[07:32] <hyper_ch> R2J2: but not that you need to enter commands yourself :)
[07:34] <R2J2> yea well, just rly strange the it behave that way :( hehe
[07:35] <grazie> R2J2: think it took me 3 tries to install xubuntu from the live cd on x86
[07:36] <hyper_ch> well, for me the livecd always worked... but I know quite a few others who had troubles
[08:01] <Naughtyboy> just going to try my sysinfo script once....hope you guys don't mind..
[08:01] <Naughtyboy> os[Linux 2.6.20-13-generic i686]  distro[Debian 4.0]  cpu[2 x Dual Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 170    @ 2.70GHz]  mem[Physical : 2026MB, 90.7% free]  disk[Total : 949.91GB, 48.30% Free]  video[nVidia Corporation GeForce 7900 GT]  sound[] 
[08:01] <Naughtyboy> yeaah...finaly..
[08:03] <maxamillion> Naughtyboy: please do that in #xubuntu-offtopic :)
[08:03] <Naughtyboy> OK....sorry dude...won't happend again  ;=)
[08:03] <maxamillion> no worries, just a friendly suggestion ;)
[08:04] <Naughtyboy> yeah no problem..totally understand
[08:06] <Naughtyboy> maxamillion, : starting to get my system sortet and konfigured as I want....got my networking/ network browsing working today...and linked in thunar....works great..
[08:07] <maxamillion> Naughtyboy: awesome!!! glad to hear it
[08:36] <j1mc> maxamillion: i got samba with thunar/fusesmb set up this weekend.  it works ok, but it doesn't prompt me for passwords to more secured shares like kubuntu does.
[08:36] <j1mc> . . . it just doesn't let me in to them.
[08:36] <j1mc> do you think i'm missing something, or is the functionality just not there yet?
[08:37] <posingaspopular> hey j1mc, how's tricks?
[08:38] <maxamillion> j1mc: not sure, i actually had the same problems because i work in a completely windows based network and all our windows shares are secured and i couldn't ever get it to connect
[08:38] <j1mc> posingaspopular: tricks?
[08:39] <posingaspopular> j1mc, we really need to work on your lingo. tricks=business
[08:39] <posingaspopular> how are things with you? etc.
[08:40] <j1mc> maxamillion: i installed konqueror and nautilus to see if their network support would help me out.  (if could connect by them, but not by thunar, then i knew my prob was in my thunar / fusesmb setup).
[08:41] <j1mc> konqueror handled the connections the best . . .   it would prompt for usernames/passwords where nautilus and thunar would just deny entry.
[08:41] <j1mc> posingaspopular: i'm good.  :-)
[08:41] <j1mc> just got back from lunch
[08:42] <posingaspopular> j1mc, i just had my first meal of the day. now im reading 'man-computer symbiosis' by j.c.r. licklider
[08:43] <j1mc> what's that about, posingaspopular?
[08:45] <posingaspopular> ummm its an article that he wrote in the 40's or so about the future of computers, the internet etc. before any of it existed.
[08:46] <j1mc> neato . . .
[08:48] <posingaspopular> j1mc, hang on while i find the information.. http://news.com.com/Lickliders+vision+of+the+Digital+Age/2010-1012_3-6167919.html
[08:48] <posingaspopular> thats where i found it
[08:48] <j1mc> cool.  thx, posingaspopular
[09:02] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:28] <posingaspopular> there are x-rays on my computer desk...
[09:30] <kalikiana> hwody
[09:30] <kalikiana> *Howdy
[09:30] <Howdy125> Howdy back
[09:31] <kalikiana> 'did not feel like thinkin of a name'-syndrom, eh?
[09:32] <Howdy125> I can join and say howdy at the same time.
[09:39] <totalwormage> magical
[09:46] <Howdy125> Not really
[10:05] <skarpa> Hello! I've installed Xubuntu on my computer and exploring the configurations, I've changed the screen resolution to 800x600 pixels. I would like to change it back to 1024x768, but this resolution doesn't appear in the display configuration window. Does anybody know how I can do that?
[10:14] <posingaspopular> hi, i just installed xubuntu feisty fawn beta and i cant seem to connect to the internet or figure out how. i tried sudo pppoeconf but that didnt work out too well
[10:20] <slow-motion> n8
[10:45] <spasticteapot> Hello!
[10:47] <spasticteapot> 'ello?
[10:48] <posingaspopular> !hello
[10:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:48] <kalikiana> !welcome
[10:48] <ubotu> Hello and welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions or help others. If you'd like to chit-chat, please visit #xubuntu-offtopic and for developer discussion, see #xubuntu-devel :)
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Heh.
[10:50] <posingaspopular> #xubuntu-offtopic
[10:50] <posingaspopular> opps
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Anyone else using Fiesty Xubuntu yet?
[10:50] <spasticteapot> It rules!
[10:50] <kalikiana> s/opps/ops ;)
[10:50] <spasticteapot> Faster, and GORGEOUS.
[10:51] <posingaspopular> spasticteapot, yea i just installed it the other night
[10:51] <spasticteapot> I swear....it's awesome!
[10:52] <spasticteapot> Still can't click-drag-select on the desktop, though.
[10:52] <posingaspopular> i wonder how kubuntu feisty will look
[10:53] <posingaspopular> and feel
[10:53] <spasticteapot> Eh.
[10:53] <spasticteapot> KDE?
[10:53] <spasticteapot> Sloow.
[10:53] <kalikiana> spasticteapot, planned for xfce4.6 ;)
[10:53] <spasticteapot> And kinda annoying.
[10:53] <spasticteapot> ?
[10:53] <posingaspopular> yea i like kde much more than gnome
[10:53] <posingaspopular> im mostly new to xfce
[10:53] <spasticteapot> kalikiana: Are you one of the devs?
[10:53] <spasticteapot> posingaspopular: It rocks.
[10:54] <spasticteapot> Very elegant - kinda like Mac OSX, which I used quite a bit.
[10:54] <kalikiana> spasticteapot, Not quite, only testing and bug filing :)
[10:54] <posingaspopular> it's pretty good, havent gotten to the net on feisty xubuntu yet, my modem hates linux
[10:54] <spasticteapot> kalikiana: Well, thanks anyways!
[10:54] <spasticteapot> posingaspopular: What's up with your modem?
[10:55] <spasticteapot> Dial-up, I presume?
[10:55] <posingaspopular> spasticteapot, no its dsl, it just hates linux or ubuntu, not sure which one it is
[10:55] <spasticteapot> ?
[10:55] <spasticteapot> Ethernet or USB connection?
[10:55] <posingaspopular> it drops my connection to the internet all the time and is just weird
[10:55] <posingaspopular> e-net
[10:55] <kalikiana> I have a dsl modem which will freeze usb detection, too :/
[10:55] <spasticteapot> kalikiana: What are the keys that allow me to tile my windows?
[10:55] <spasticteapot> posingaspopular: That should'nt happen.
[10:55] <spasticteapot> Try ifconfig.
[10:56] <kalikiana> spasticteapot, alt+f6 and alt+f7 you mean?
[10:56] <spasticteapot> ...that's probbably it.
[10:57] <posingaspopular> spasticteapot, i did, i tried that and it didn't return anything in the terminal
[10:57] <spasticteapot> That's a problem, then.
[10:57] <posingaspopular> well no i tried 'sudo pppoconf' then i did 'pon dsl -provider' 'poff' 'plog' and 'ifconfig ppp0'
[10:57] <spasticteapot> Oy vey.
[10:57] <posingaspopular> and the last four commands didn't return anything
[10:57] <posingaspopular> thats all i tried
[10:58] <spasticteapot> posingaspopular: I'd try getting a modem with a built-in router.
[10:58] <spasticteapot> They're standard issue over here.
[10:58] <spasticteapot> You configure all the DSL stuff through a browser-based menu, and don't need to worry about any configuration on the actual PC.
[10:58] <posingaspopular> spasticteapot, i have another router. gonna try to piggyback off the modem and see what happens. imj just waiting for my brother to come and help me out later this week
[10:59] <spasticteapot> Not gonna work.
[10:59] <spasticteapot> Some modems require config information and such from a PC. Others can send it themselves.
[10:59] <spasticteapot> One of the reasons I like cable is that the modems act as gateways.
[11:03] <posingaspopular> yea i really just want to get all my comptuers online
[11:03] <spasticteapot> posingaspopular: Get a cheapo machine (P1 or even a 486 should do it) and have it act as a gateway for your system.
[11:04] <posingaspopular> what do you mean by gateway?
[11:04] <spasticteapot> Have the router connected to it, and make sure that all the settings are correct - run windows, if necessary.
[11:04] <spasticteapot> It's the computer on the network that all the other computers connect through.
[11:04] <spasticteapot> You'll need to set up Masquerade for IPtables postrouting...which is a huge pain in the kiester.
[11:04] <spasticteapot> However, it's the best way to get internet on your network - I spent three weeks before I found out how to do it.
[11:05] <spasticteapot> Plus, there are dozens of tutorials.
[11:06] <posingaspopular> ahh see, i was just going to hack the systems to ninja the internet through the router i have
[11:06] <posingaspopular> that i have to set up
[11:06] <posingaspopular> i duno
[11:06] <posingaspopular> this wouldn't be an issue
[11:06] <spasticteapot> ?
[11:06] <posingaspopular> but i REFUSE to run windows anywhere
[11:06] <spasticteapot> I don't blame you.
[11:07] <spasticteapot> The problem with your type of modem is that it needs to be connected directly to a computer - not to a router or switch.
[11:07] <spasticteapot> Hence, one computer can share the internet with the others.
[11:07] <spasticteapot> However, if that computer is not on 24/7, you're stuck. And it will slow it down a bit.
[11:07] <posingaspopular> i'll figure something out
[11:08] <spasticteapot> Well, the best solution is just to have a PC that's on 24/7 for the sole purpose of connecting to your modem - a Gateway.
[11:08] <spasticteapot> I spent a few weeks on this exact problem.
[11:08] <spasticteapot> As an added bonus, using a seperate PC as a gateway will let you also add a firewall to your system, which is dandy.
[11:09] <posingaspopular> yea well the comp im on is always on. and its an xp machine, but i want to get rid of it for obvious reasons
[11:09] <spasticteapot> Heh.
[11:09] <spasticteapot> Well, then I'd set up an old machine with Linux (no GUI) and configure it.
[11:09] <posingaspopular> it would be alot easier if people would support linux
[11:09] <spasticteapot> Yep.
[11:09] <spasticteapot> Not enough money in it, though.
[11:10] <posingaspopular> spasticteapot, yea im going to install server ubuntu on a box and use that
[11:10] <posingaspopular> because i need a server for a project im working on
[11:10] <spasticteapot> That'll do it.
[11:10] <posingaspopular> need to get a stable connection though...
[11:10] <spasticteapot> You can set up a combined gateway/firewall.
[11:10] <spasticteapot> Or just get a new modem.
[11:10] <spasticteapot> (I like option #2.)
[11:10] <maxamillion> can also make it a router with GNU/Zebra ;)
[11:10] <posingaspopular> spasticteapot, im going to have to pm you for real info in a few days, when i have all my stuff together
[11:11] <spasticteapot> Okay.
[11:11] <spasticteapot> I spent three weeks setting up something identical to this - I'm no expert on Linux, but you managed to find the one thing I DO know how to do.
[11:11] <posingaspopular> spasticteapot, ha, yea i love when that happens
[11:11] <posingaspopular> i usually end up doing a !command in the support channels
[11:12] <spasticteapot> Heh.
[11:24] <spasticteapot> Helo?