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nixternal | hey, I would like to create a "Welcome to Kubuntu" wiki page that will act like a one-stop shop that we can also link to in #kubuntu in order to shrink down that massive topic. That or fix /Kubuntu up a little bit. Comments? | 06:14 |
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freeflying | nixternal: cool :) | 06:21 |
nixternal | there is one :) | 06:21 |
jsgotangco | should work nicely too | 06:21 |
nixternal | oh man, they just come out of the wood work around here ;p | 06:22 |
nixternal | jsgotangco: Chicago is actually having a nice 2 day open source event for once | 06:22 |
nixternal | this weekend. I am being urged to talk, however Chris DiBona and Mike Brown are talking, impossible for me to follow that act | 06:22 |
jsgotangco | why not | 06:23 |
jsgotangco | just say a few words or something | 06:23 |
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crimsun | nixternal: err, you're in an excellent position to speak about open source | 06:44 |
nixternal | I sit on IRC all day, how is that an excellent position ;) | 06:44 |
crimsun | speak about your doc work with edubuntu and kubuntu | 06:44 |
crimsun | you're part of the doc team for arguably the most popular distro(s) ever | 06:45 |
nixternal | about time someone realizes that Kubuntu is the most popular :) | 06:45 |
crimsun | I'd say that despite their pedigrees, they have nothing to your actual involvement | 06:45 |
nixternal | ya, it definitely won't be the first time for sure, but that is a powerful lineup | 06:45 |
nixternal | so I shouldn't talk about my mad packaging skills then :) | 06:46 |
crimsun | people will remember your enthusiasm far longer than they will your place in the speaking lineup | 06:46 |
nixternal | crimsun: and lets not forget that I am also apart of KDE now as well, which is w/o a doubt teh greatest DE in the world! | 06:47 |
nixternal | we are doing distro-wars as well. There will be Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, and Kubuntu going against SUSE, Fedora, and Linspire. That should be easy | 06:47 |
nixternal | the entire Chicago group is going, about 20 deep to win that battle | 06:48 |
giangy | 'morning guy | 06:51 |
giangy | +s | 06:51 |
manchicken_ | Does anybody know why libmjs-dev conflicts with libnss3, firefox, and evolution? | 07:00 |
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manchicken_ | yuriy: I'm gonna look at bug #62475 really quick. | 07:09 |
ubotu | Malone bug 62475 in adept "view menu disabled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62475 | 07:09 |
manchicken_ | I haven't been able to pay attention to free software work lately. Sorry I've been so absent. heh | 07:09 |
nixternal | no excuses please ;p | 07:21 |
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manchicken_ | Nice. | 07:44 |
manchicken_ | Quiet you! I just submitted a patch ;) | 07:44 |
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manchicken_ | And I may submit a second one. | 07:50 |
manchicken_ | :P | 07:50 |
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manchicken_ | nixternal: There. I've submitted two patches tonight. Consider yourself silenced ;) | 08:04 |
manchicken_ | With that, I do believe I'll crash for the night. | 08:04 |
manchicken_ | Nighty night. | 08:05 |
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asyd | "/S 12 | 09:52 |
asyd | oups | 09:53 |
Hobbsee | basket done. yay :) | 10:00 |
apokryphos | basket's awesome 8) | 10:00 |
Hobbsee | it is :D | 10:00 |
Hobbsee | and this version fixes major crashers | 10:00 |
apokryphos | ubotu: info basket | 10:01 |
ubotu | basket: User-friendly way to run programs and manage links in KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.0-6 (edgy), package size 334 kB, installed size 1176 kB | 10:01 |
apokryphos | ubotu: info basket feisty | 10:01 |
ubotu | basket: a multi-purpose note-taking application for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (feisty), package size 4797 kB, installed size 7360 kB | 10:01 |
apokryphos | yeah, the guy started adding features waaay too fast and it picked up loads of crashes. Pretty good these days though :D | 10:01 |
apokryphos | I deluded myself thinking into it would be _the_ app for my revision, but it did at least help a lot with note-taking from different texts | 10:02 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 10:02 |
Hobbsee | it's not bad - i dont think iv'e fully "gotten" it yet -but i'm getting there | 10:03 |
Hobbsee | keep discovering neat bits that i use - makes a great todo list | 10:03 |
apokryphos | yeah; it's still got so many features though; fortunately things you won't use don't get in your way at all | 10:04 |
apokryphos | I think he's the same developer that's working on kirocker | 10:04 |
apokryphos | which is also great 8) | 10:05 |
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Hobbsee | apokryphos: ack'd. will be done on archive day | 10:43 |
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apokryphos | Hobbsee: eh? | 10:54 |
Hobbsee | apokryphos: the sync request, sorry | 10:54 |
Hobbsee | for 1.0.1 for feisty | 10:54 |
apokryphos | ah, I see | 10:54 |
_StefanS_ | hey Hobbsee | 10:56 |
Hobbsee | hi _StefanS_ :) | 10:57 |
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kwwii | when you resize a window with the mouse it resizes in both directions | 11:07 |
Hobbsee | neat | 11:08 |
kwwii | so when I grab the side of a window and make it bigger it gets bigger not only on the side you grabbed, but also on the opposite side | 11:08 |
kwwii | so it does scale, just not as one would expect | 11:08 |
Hobbsee | fun | 11:10 |
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apachelogger | kwwii: not sure whether this is a bug | 11:11 |
apachelogger | happens with beryl as well IIRC | 11:11 |
kwwii | apachelogger: yeah, I am running compiz | 11:12 |
apokryphos | same issue with kwin? | 11:12 |
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apachelogger | anyone knows how to set the mail address 'dch' is using? | 11:16 |
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Hobbsee | apachelogger: in .bashrc | 11:18 |
apachelogger | Hobbsee: thx | 11:20 |
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Jucato | :D | 12:28 |
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Jucato | lol | 12:28 |
greeneggsandham | hahaha | 12:28 |
giangy | yawn | 12:29 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco: :P | 12:29 |
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Jucato | @schedule | 12:29 |
ubotu | Schedule for Etc/UTC: 03 Apr 11:00: Community Council | 03 Apr 15:00: Kernel Team | 03 Apr 18:00: Mozilla Team | 04 Apr 12:00: Edubuntu | 05 Apr 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 12:29 |
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jsgotangco | spa? | 12:30 |
Jucato | what's the trigger again to show the meetings schedule in local time? | 12:30 |
jsgotangco | not bad combo | 12:30 |
jsgotangco | @schedule foo | 12:30 |
purpleeggsandham | freenode nick limit | 12:30 |
giangy | I'm preparing an 8-pages article about KDE 4 for an Italian Linux magazine, hooray \o/ :) | 12:30 |
DoomStick | there. | 12:31 |
jsgotangco | hmmm | 12:33 |
jsgotangco | i should think of something better | 12:33 |
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Jucato | :D | 12:39 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco: heh. Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is taken | 12:39 |
jsgotangco | ha ha ha | 12:40 |
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Riddell | Tonio_: how was Zagreb? | 12:45 |
Jucato | hi Tonio_, hi Riddell! | 12:46 |
Jucato | CC meeting in 15 minutes? | 12:46 |
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Hobbsee | Jucato: seems so | 12:47 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: does the CC meeting include ubuntu members that got accepted through the KCC? (like me?) | 12:48 |
Riddell | it's open to anyone | 12:48 |
Jucato | ah ok :) | 12:48 |
Riddell | anything on the agenda we should care about? | 12:48 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: but they're not going to ack you for membership again, or anything | 12:49 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: world domination. if it's nto there, i'll add it by osmosis | 12:49 |
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Jucato | oh nothing. just wondering what happened to jsgotangco's nomination :D | 12:49 |
jsgotangco | hrmmm? | 12:49 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco's a member, isnt he? | 12:49 |
Jucato | I mean nominated to the council... whatever you call it :D | 12:50 |
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jsgotangco | ahh that, perhaps its just waiting for launchpad 2.0 | 12:52 |
jsgotangco | or LP Reloaded whatever its called now | 12:53 |
jsgotangco | oh wait LP isn't even on 1.0 | 12:53 |
jsgotangco | is it? | 12:53 |
Jucato | :) | 12:53 |
Hobbsee | it is now, yes | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | iirc | 12:54 |
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Hobbsee | oh yes, | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | that, then | 12:54 |
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Jucato | ooh apokryphos is finally going to be a member :) | 12:56 |
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kwwii_ | Riddell: ping? | 12:58 |
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Riddell | hi kwwii | 12:59 |
ded_ | in kdevelop how to regenerate dialog underclass from qt ui without delete implemented slot? | 01:00 |
kwwii | Riddell: I am working on the example-content stuff (oo-presenting-kubuntu.odp)... who can tell me the "highlights" of Feisty | 01:00 |
kwwii | or do we want to remove that slide? | 01:00 |
Tonio__ | hey kwwii | 01:01 |
kwwii | hi Tonio__ | 01:01 |
Riddell | kwwii: pick whatever jumps out at your from https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FeistyFawn/Beta/Kubuntu and the previous herd pages | 01:02 |
kwwii | Riddell: great, will do...thanks :-) | 01:02 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: no tips for k3b, be happy :) | 01:02 |
Riddell | yay | 01:02 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll review yury's mail for bgs with solutions posted | 01:03 |
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Riddell | bgs? | 01:04 |
Tonio_ | bugs | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | bugs that are decreasing in size, hence have less letters. | 01:05 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I just have sometimes problems with the macbook keyboard :) | 01:06 |
Tonio_ | missing some letters since the keys are not exactly at the same place | 01:06 |
Tonio_ | ;) | 01:06 |
Tonio_ | are we in freeze atm ? | 01:22 |
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Riddell | no | 01:25 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: great, let's go then | 01:26 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I also removed the multimedia things from k3b, it is now nativelly supported | 01:27 |
Tonio_ | with konqueror integration and everything | 01:27 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adept/+bug/74262 | 02:10 |
ubotu | Malone bug 74262 in adept "Two "Manage Repositories" entries under different menus in Adept Manager" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:10 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: patch looks to fix this, are you okay so that I can upload this ? | 02:10 |
Tonio_ | I don't see any reason that we have duplicate entry... | 02:11 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: unless that's your decision :) | 02:12 |
asyd | hello Tonio_ | 02:13 |
Tonio_ | hi asyd :) | 02:14 |
Tonio_ | asyd: as announced, someone had to shake me up in the train when arrived orlans :) | 02:14 |
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asyd | ahahah | 02:16 |
Tonio_ | asyd: you may have seen that in my eyes | 02:20 |
Tonio_ | "reguard bovin" mode :) | 02:20 |
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Tonio_ | lots of patches to merge from launchpad | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | yay :) | 02:30 |
giangy | wey Tonio_ :) | 02:30 |
Tonio_ | hi giangy ;) | 02:30 |
dandel | hello hobbsee. | 02:31 |
Hobbsee | hi dandel | 02:32 |
dandel | hobbsee, you got the recent qt update right? | 02:33 |
Hobbsee | dont know, havent looked | 02:33 |
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dandel | ah, well there is an updated version of that now. | 02:33 |
asyd | 15 | 02:34 |
asyd | oups | 02:34 |
Hobbsee | right | 02:34 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: I was looking at bug 90445 | 02:53 |
ubotu | Malone bug 90445 in pbbuttonsd "powerprefs problems with touchpad "tap" and function key settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90445 | 02:53 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: that requires a patch to be applied to HAL (see bug 90451) | 02:53 |
ubotu | Malone bug 90451 in hal "Add Tablet PC support (patch included)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/90451 | 02:53 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'd like to go with this, what's your opinion ? | 02:54 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll ping pitti | 02:55 |
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giangy | Tonio_: http://blog.fubar.dk/?p=86 (have you read it?) | 03:01 |
Tonio_ | giangy: not yet, gimme a moment :) | 03:01 |
giangy | np | 03:02 |
Tonio_ | giangy: interesting :) | 03:02 |
Tonio_ | giangy: I'll ping pitti who is in change of hal | 03:02 |
Tonio_ | giangy: would be nice to improve tablet pc support according to what opensuse does... | 03:02 |
Tonio_ | giangy: but I won't do the hal part without pitti's approval... then I'll do the kdebase/libs part | 03:03 |
giangy | the maintainer seems to be pitti | 03:03 |
giangy | Tonio_: is awesome if the taplet pc support works :) | 03:03 |
giangy | *tablet | 03:03 |
Tonio_ | of course it os | 03:04 |
Tonio_ | s/os/is | 03:04 |
Tonio_ | giangy: I'm just affraid that'll eventually break the feature freeze.... | 03:04 |
Tonio_ | technically that's a new feature, not a bugfix | 03:04 |
giangy | mh, true | 03:04 |
giangy | better to wait pitti :)) | 03:05 |
Tonio_ | giangy: yep | 03:06 |
Tonio_ | giangy: good point is that I thik I think we can go with this as no risk | 03:06 |
Tonio_ | giangy: that's been widelly tested at suse side so...... | 03:06 |
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giangy | wait :) | 03:08 |
Tonio_ | giangy: yeah, that's to do before pitti comes back :) | 03:08 |
jeroenvrp | k3b-i18n (0.12.17-2) | 03:08 |
Tonio_ | giangy: I have other fixes to review | 03:08 |
jeroenvrp | that one is not needed anymore | 03:08 |
Tonio_ | giangy: will you be there when I ask pitti ? | 03:08 |
giangy | Tonio_: I think yes | 03:09 |
Tonio_ | giangy: cool | 03:09 |
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giangy | Tonio_: nothing about. | 03:10 |
giangy | Tonio_: the only is related to Qt3 tablet support that was/is missing, but related to Suse only. ( https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=253392 ) | 03:11 |
ubotu | Novell bug 253392 in Other "qt3 tablet support missing" [Normal,Needinfo] | 03:11 |
Tonio_ | giangy: there are also patches for kdebase/libs against this | 03:12 |
giangy | our qt-package contains tablet support? | 03:12 |
Tonio_ | giangy: no but our kde packages can do so | 03:12 |
Tonio_ | giangy: only thing is that I need hal to be patched first to test those | 03:12 |
Tonio_ | giangy: therefore I don't want to waste time testing if patching hal is to late | 03:13 |
giangy | ah okey | 03:13 |
giangy | now I understand :) | 03:13 |
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giangy | mh, I have to edit http://k3b.plainblack.com/download on the Kubuntu section (at least update the branch that contains the latest packages -> feisty) | 03:21 |
giangy | for the Maintainer field what can I insert? (Ubuntu Core Developers ? or some names?) | 03:22 |
Riddell | giangy: Ubuntu Core Developers or Kubuntu Members | 03:24 |
giangy | ok | 03:24 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: what do you suggest about the "repo manager" link in adept menus ? | 03:34 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: should I patch to remove it from "view" ? | 03:34 |
giangy | btw guys, I have to say that after 7-8 days that I'm staying here in channel I very like the kubuntu team :) | 03:35 |
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Tonio_ | giangy: thanks ;) | 03:35 |
Tonio_ | giangy: you have been very appreciated too :) | 03:35 |
giangy | heh thanks :)) | 03:35 |
Tonio_ | ;) | 03:35 |
Riddell | Tonio_: that whole view menu can go | 03:36 |
Tonio_ | hum okay, let's patch then ! | 03:36 |
giangy | but I'm (was..) working in the Slackware packaging team but now is the time to search other places. | 03:36 |
Tonio_ | giangy: hehe :) | 03:36 |
Tonio_ | giangy: yes I saw you where the k3b maintainer in slack | 03:37 |
Tonio_ | giangy: well we need packagers for kde apps, so if you have time......... I'd be glad to help you with the specifics of debian/kde packaging if you want | 03:37 |
giangy | well, I tried.. but behind Slackware there is *one man*, *one decision*, this breaks my balls. | 03:38 |
Tonio_ | giangy: hum, I can understand this | 03:38 |
giangy | Tonio_: well, I have time, but I don't know any debian packaging specifics, I have to read something about (hint for myself: google is my friend :>) | 03:38 |
Tonio_ | giangy: we here are your friends too :) | 03:38 |
Tonio_ | no rtfm here | 03:39 |
giangy | oki | 03:39 |
Tonio_ | giangy: ust ask if you have questions | 03:43 |
Tonio_ | giangy: aknowledged people are more efficient than google at some points | 03:44 |
giangy | Tonio_: ok, I have to finish an article about KDE4 and I'll start to read something about :) | 03:44 |
imbrandon | moins all | 03:45 |
Tonio_ | giangy: sure | 03:45 |
Tonio_ | hi mr brandon | 03:45 |
imbrandon | heya papa | 03:45 |
imbrandon | :) | 03:45 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: not yet :'( | 03:45 |
Tonio_ | unfortunately | 03:45 |
imbrandon | hehe | 03:45 |
Tonio_ | gf comes back today, so maybe tomorrow I'll be a potential papa :) | 03:45 |
giangy | gh | 03:46 |
imbrandon | sounds like a good plan :) | 03:46 |
Tonio_ | depends the amount of bugs to fix lol | 03:46 |
imbrandon | lol | 03:46 |
imbrandon | gf> bugs | 03:46 |
Tonio_ | imbrandon: obsously yes :) | 03:46 |
Tonio_ | obviously | 03:46 |
imbrandon | hehe | 03:46 |
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Hobbsee | damn thing just freezes most of the time, when the kill switch isnt enabled on my 3945 wifi card. | 03:53 |
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bddebian | Morning | 04:06 |
Tm_T | moin | 04:06 |
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Hobbsee | right. we have edgy | 04:09 |
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manchicken | WHY does amarok have their lists.sf.net email address hard-coded into amarok crashes if it isn't working? | 04:25 |
vprints | Good afternoon! | 04:26 |
manchicken | nowdy | 04:26 |
manchicken | howdy* | 04:26 |
manchicken | Goodness, that was a bad typo. | 04:26 |
manchicken | Riddell: Dionne Wheeler got back to me on travel stuff. | 04:26 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: yay, lucky | 04:26 |
manchicken | Riddell: Does she handle hotel accommodations as well? | 04:26 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: My passport is pretty :) | 04:27 |
Hobbsee | manchicken: mine's terrible - i'm not using that as a form of ID more than i have to! | 04:27 |
vprints | Is there any specific reason why does firefox use Kghostview instead of Kpdf ? | 04:27 |
manchicken | Hobbsee: Mine has all sorts of pretty colors and holograms and such. | 04:27 |
Hobbsee | neat | 04:27 |
manchicken | vprints: Is there any specific reason why you're using firefox instead of konqueror? :P | 04:28 |
manchicken | heh | 04:28 |
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vprints | ye, it is familiar for people i convert from windows | 04:28 |
Hobbsee | vprints: we dont set that. is kghostview regarded as the default pdf app? | 04:29 |
Riddell | manchicken: no, canonical books the hotel | 04:30 |
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manchicken | Riddell: Okay. If I go through Dionne Wheeler, does Canonical directly handle the bill for the flight? | 04:31 |
vprints | kpdf is the default, but not for firefox | 04:32 |
Jucato | about:config or something... | 04:32 |
vprints | firefox still uses kghostview | 04:32 |
vprints | i think it should be changed generally to use kpdf | 04:33 |
vprints | because kghostview fails to show previews of pages | 04:33 |
Hobbsee | vprints: afaik, we dont actually set the firefox preffered apps | 04:33 |
manchicken | vprints: Konq is pretty darn easy to pick up. | 04:33 |
vprints | ok, sorry i asked | 04:34 |
Hobbsee | last i saw, anyway | 04:34 |
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kwwii | Tonio_: if you're busy fixing bugs, let me know and I'll take care of your other duties :p | 04:41 |
kwwii | manchicken: yes, if you do it that way they will pay for it directly | 04:43 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: sure :) | 04:44 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: I fixed the font size on kdm | 04:44 |
kwwii | Tonio_: what was the problem with the font? | 04:44 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: as you know french is the language with largest words, so it might be okay for everyone now | 04:44 |
kwwii | hehe | 04:44 |
kwwii | cool | 04:44 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: too large... | 04:44 |
kwwii | line wrapping | 04:44 |
Tonio_ | I changes from 12 to 11 | 04:44 |
Tonio_ | kwwii: exactly | 04:44 |
Tonio_ | I have to go for a moment, brb | 04:45 |
Hobbsee | oh, spain details here too | 04:47 |
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claydoh | I am in a foul mood today | 04:51 |
claydoh | oops oops | 04:51 |
claydoh | sorry | 04:51 |
Hobbsee | heh | 04:51 |
claydoh | not meant for here | 04:51 |
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Jucato | :) | 04:53 |
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LongPointyStick | kde black looks quite nice | 04:53 |
LongPointyStick | heh | 04:53 |
Jucato | :) | 04:53 |
Jucato | goodnight LongPointyStick/Hobbsee | 04:53 |
claydoh | Jucato: I would *never* let it show here, in public so to speak | 04:53 |
LongPointyStick | :) | 04:53 |
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claydoh | night LongPointyStick\ | 04:54 |
Jucato | ah | 04:54 |
LongPointyStick | ahh | 04:55 |
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Jucato | ?? | 04:55 |
LongPointyStick | a month till spain :) | 04:56 |
Jucato | aah :) | 04:56 |
Jucato | the next one will be in Boston right? :D | 04:56 |
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LongPointyStick | :) | 04:56 |
LongPointyStick | yeah | 04:57 |
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Jucato | aw... :( | 04:57 |
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Jucato | anyway, let me not keep you from your beauty sleep :P | 04:57 |
LongPointyStick | why wouldnt you be? | 04:58 |
Jucato | hm... dunno... the future is always uncertain :) | 04:58 |
Jucato | I might be on Windows... :D | 04:58 |
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LongPointyStick | heh | 04:59 |
Jucato | and if (only if) I do... I will always be doing Kubuntu work :) | 04:59 |
Tm_T | my eyes... | 05:03 |
LongPointyStick | :) | 05:03 |
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Tm_T | it really does take some time before eyes gets used to it | 05:03 |
LongPointyStick | heh, yes. | 05:04 |
LongPointyStick | you had none before? | 05:04 |
apokryphos | Riddell: I see irssi have that old ban problem you were talking about in their faq, btw: http://irssi.org/documentation/faq | 05:23 |
Jucato | hi apokryphos!! how did the membership go? :) | 05:23 |
apokryphos | Jucato: I completely forgot it was today, actually :o | 05:24 |
apokryphos | pictured it some time further in the future 8). Hopefully I'll be around next time.. | 05:24 |
Jucato | oh... :P | 05:24 |
Riddell | apokryphos: interesting | 05:26 |
Riddell | if not very enlightening | 05:26 |
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apokryphos | 'people say they have this, I'm guessing what it would be, but we don't know why it happens' :P | 05:27 |
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ded_ | hi is there somone who know if there is a soft to install a packet in beta without destroy the system if it is bad | 05:46 |
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DaSkreech | ded_: Sorry? | 05:47 |
DaSkreech | ded_: You want to install something without harming your system? | 05:47 |
ded_ | DaSkreech: excuse my english | 05:47 |
DaSkreech | ded_: I figured ;-) | 05:47 |
DaSkreech | Is that correct though? | 05:47 |
ded_ | harming ? | 05:47 |
ded_ | i did nt understand | 05:48 |
Jucato | apt-get with the -s (simulate) switch? | 05:48 |
DaSkreech | ded_: Which packet in beta do you want to install? | 05:48 |
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ded_ | in reality this is not for beta packet | 05:49 |
DaSkreech | ah What is it for? | 05:49 |
ded_ | this is rmp packets transform whith alien | 05:49 |
ded_ | in deb | 05:49 |
DaSkreech | ok | 05:49 |
ded_ | but i don't want to destroy system if they are bad | 05:50 |
DaSkreech | For which program? | 05:50 |
ded_ | this is for develop a prog doing this automatiquely | 05:50 |
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DaSkreech | :-) Wouldn't it be easier to make a deb? | 05:51 |
ded_ | yes i make deb from rpm | 05:51 |
DaSkreech | No make a deb from the source code :) | 05:52 |
ded_ | all right but this is for install packet found on the web | 05:52 |
DaSkreech | Which packet? | 05:52 |
ded_ | everyone | 05:52 |
DaSkreech | What is it's name? | 05:53 |
ded_ | not one in particular | 05:53 |
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ded_ | i am developing on kedevelop a prog for installing local package | 05:56 |
apachelogger | Riddell: would be nice if you could upload these changes http://aplg.kollide.net/debdiff_amarok_1.4.5-6to7.diff | 05:56 |
DaSkreech | Ah | 05:56 |
DaSkreech | !chroot | 05:56 |
ubotu | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box | 05:56 |
DaSkreech | ded_: Read that. It will give you a way to test without hurting your system | 05:57 |
ded_ | thanks i will do it | 06:01 |
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manchicken | What is IB? A Train or an airline? | 06:48 |
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Tm_T | hmmh, shame, I think I cancel my aKademy plans from this year | 06:58 |
Tm_T | that means have to be ready next year :) | 06:58 |
claydoh | manchicken: probably Iberia Airlines, if it's Spain yer looking at | 06:59 |
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manchicken | Yeah. | 07:07 |
manchicken | Okay. cool. | 07:07 |
Lure | alleeEdgy32_: ping | 07:13 |
kwwii | Riddell: the example-content package has been updated - you might want to check it out to see if I missed anything or if we should add anything | 07:27 |
nixternal | someone told me I was violating the CoC and bashing/disrespecting Microsoft on my blog. That angers me ;) | 07:29 |
nixternal | I didn't disrespect them, I just made it known they have yet another stupid security exploit involving animated mouse cursors. if that isn't stupid, then I don't know what is | 07:30 |
nixternal | lovely, like you all wanted to hear that, silly irssi had the wrong window open | 07:30 |
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fdoving | nixternal: i totally agree anyway. :) | 07:44 |
nixternal | hehe, why thank you | 07:44 |
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manchicken | nixternal: You should know by now that when you disagree with Microsoft, you have disgraced yourself, your family, and your country. How unamerican. | 07:47 |
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nixternal | I am sorry Lord Ballmer | 07:47 |
manchicken | That's better. | 07:47 |
manchicken | Now scream excitedly in line to buy an autographed copy of Vista! | 07:47 |
nixternal | Gates I can somewhat respect as he wasn't *as* dirty as Ballmer, plus he does distribute a lot of money to underfunded educational centers around the world | 07:48 |
nixternal | I respect that | 07:48 |
manchicken | Totally. | 07:48 |
nixternal | manchicken: umm, can't do that one now | 07:48 |
nixternal | although the bookstore here on campus has Vista on sale | 07:48 |
manchicken | But he also undermines their freedom. And I think he should be held accountable for that. | 07:48 |
nixternal | I asked how many they have sold in the 2 months they have been on the shelf, and they said 1 | 07:49 |
manchicken | My new employer had a Vista OEM machine shipped to me for use in testing. | 07:49 |
nixternal | I will admit though, Vista packaging is very nice, so Microsoft's marketing team was working hard for this one | 07:49 |
manchicken | It'll sit in the box for a little while. | 07:49 |
nixternal | tell you new employer they need documentation experts (doxygen and docbook/xml/sgml), hell I can even do some C++, or Marketing or Management | 07:50 |
manchicken | heh | 07:50 |
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nixternal | soon I will learn Java, c#, ASP (eww), more C++, oh and I am doing my Qt books as well, which makes writing KDE stuff way easier than say, using the STL | 07:51 |
nixternal | forgot about Python and PyQt | 07:52 |
nixternal | although my Python books refer to GTK quite a bit | 07:52 |
fdoving | don't forget lisp :) | 07:53 |
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nixternal | fdoving: please no more. I have played around with that and ocaml because the glug guys in Chicago always talk about it | 07:54 |
nixternal | those will come later when I have spare time on my hands. oh wait, I already do ;o | 07:54 |
fdoving | nixternal: http://norvig.com/21-days.html and http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html are good. | 07:58 |
nixternal | haha, teach yourself programming in 10 years | 07:58 |
fdoving | read it all :) | 07:59 |
Riddell | apachelogger: the changelog mentions kio but I don't see anything else in the diff about kio | 08:03 |
apachelogger | Riddell: description of package amarok was talking about playback support from kio | 08:03 |
apachelogger | though that only worked for arts | 08:03 |
apachelogger | and xine is still working on kio support | 08:03 |
nixternal | man, this is some good reading | 08:05 |
mhb | good evening folks | 08:08 |
fdoving | are there any remote chances to get new upstream versions of packages into feisty at this time? | 08:15 |
fdoving | universe, that is. | 08:15 |
Riddell | apachelogger: oh, I see it | 08:15 |
apachelogger | :) | 08:16 |
Riddell | apachelogger: uploaded | 08:16 |
apachelogger | thx | 08:16 |
Lure | fdoving: yes. mailody? | 08:18 |
fdoving | Lure: that's what i have in mind, yes. | 08:19 |
fdoving | 0.5.0 have huge improvements. | 08:19 |
Lure | fdoving: it might be good to poke in #ubuntu-motu first just to have some hope | 08:19 |
Riddell | fdoving: possibly, if you're fast | 08:19 |
Riddell | yes | 08:19 |
nixternal | fdoving: has it moved out of playground yet? | 08:19 |
fdoving | nixternal: no, not yet. i belive the process is ongoing. | 08:19 |
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Lure | fdoving: I am just doing digikam-doc UVFe, but this is documentation only | 08:19 |
fdoving | Lure: ok. | 08:20 |
nixternal | ahh, OK, and then you or toma will get it tagged and rock-and-rollin' I take it :) | 08:20 |
Lure | fdoving: will you prepare the package? | 08:24 |
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fdoving | Lure: yes. | 08:25 |
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Lure | fdoving: ok, you can ping me if you need upload | 08:28 |
fdoving | Lure: mailody is actually in incoming.debian.org, can one request syncs at this time? | 08:29 |
\sh | cd12vf34 | 08:29 |
\sh | argl | 08:29 |
Lure | fdoving: yep, just fill in bug and reference what to sync | 08:29 |
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Lure | fdoving: when you get +1 for UVFe, just susbcribe archive-admin to process the sync | 08:30 |
fdoving | so it's no difference from a normal sync from debian, just an UVF-sync. | 08:30 |
fdoving | thanks. | 08:30 |
fdoving | i'll go make the debdiffs etc. | 08:30 |
Lure | fdoving: nope, just need to get from incoming to unstable/expiremental to be able to request sync | 08:31 |
fdoving | Lure: yes, i'll fetch the package anyhow, so if it doesn't make it i'll just have it uploaded with an ubuntu version, doesn't matter that much, it's a pretty simple package and we keep track of it pretty well. | 08:32 |
Lure | fdoving: yep, just write in bug that is already in incoming and that sync may be possible | 08:32 |
Tonio_ | hum no pitti arround...... | 08:33 |
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yuriy | hey Tonio_ | 08:41 |
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Tonio_ | yuriy: ;) | 08:41 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: thanks for the nice bug triage, that helps a lot | 08:42 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: everything okay except the hal and tablet pc stuff | 08:42 |
yuriy | Tonio_: the patch to bug 47312 as is isn't violating string freeze? | 08:42 |
ubotu | Malone bug 47312 in kdebase "Message partially hidden in "File Sharing"" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/47312 | 08:42 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: no | 08:42 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: that's not a new string | 08:42 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: just reuse of reexisting one | 08:42 |
yuriy | Tonio_: the message box part | 08:42 |
yuriy | oh | 08:42 |
yuriy | ok : ) | 08:42 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: not a problem in that case | 08:43 |
yuriy | hmm i need to find some bugs i can fix. then figure out this debdiff thing...again | 08:44 |
\sh | Tonio_: dude, I just managed to get holidays, for linuxtag :) | 08:49 |
Tonio_ | \sh: ho nice :) | 08:50 |
Tonio_ | \sh: the point is I'm unsure I can be there.... | 08:50 |
Tonio_ | \sh: I may have a new job very soon.... | 08:51 |
Tonio_ | and I'll already have to negociate for the uds | 08:51 |
\sh | Tonio_: well, I'll be there for kubuntu/ubuntu and for FAI | 08:51 |
Tonio_ | \sh: maybe I can come for the WE | 08:51 |
\sh | and at some stage also for lpi ;) | 08:51 |
Tonio_ | \sh: very nice :) | 08:51 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: if you manage to debdiff yourself, would be nice, just ping me for review and upload | 08:52 |
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yuriy | Tonio_: did i understand right, you removed the view menu from adept? | 09:01 |
manchicken | Okay, so does anybody have any idea why libsmjs-dev conflicts with evolution, firefox, libnss3, etc? | 09:03 |
yuriy | !info libsmjs-dev | 09:04 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: yes | 09:04 |
ubotu | libsmjs-dev: Migration package for the Mozilla SpiderMonkey JavaScript library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.0.5-4.2 (edgy), package size 31 kB, installed size 92 kB | 09:04 |
yuriy | "This package exists solely for the purpose of migrating from the old package naming to the new one." | 09:05 |
yuriy | Tonio_: but didn't manchicken fix the show last dpkg view option? | 09:05 |
manchicken | Okay, so what package holds jsapi.h these days? | 09:05 |
manchicken | Tonio_: I submitted a patch for that last night. | 09:06 |
Tonio_ | manchicken: yes but we discussed with Riddell and well.... that's not very usefull | 09:06 |
manchicken | That depends whether or not the last dpkg run was successful or not. | 09:06 |
Tonio_ | honnestly the people interested in show last dpkg action are using apt-get in the shell.... | 09:06 |
Tonio_ | hum, let's consider it works then :) | 09:07 |
manchicken | If it failed to install something then the last dpkg run thing is useful. | 09:07 |
yuriy | there's a bug somewhere requesting that option.. | 09:07 |
Tonio_ | manchicken: better ask Riddell his plan, I wanted to use your patch and he told me to remove the menu, so....... | 09:07 |
Tonio_ | :) | 09:07 |
yuriy | i think it's useful just because adept has a tendency to show that "something went wrong" message and not tell you anything else | 09:07 |
manchicken | Tonio_: heh | 09:08 |
yuriy | so it's a workaround of sorts | 09:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: your opinion ? | 09:09 |
Riddell | what are we talking about? | 09:10 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: you told me remove the all "view" menuj in adept, which I did | 09:11 |
manchicken | My view menu patch | 09:11 |
Tonio_ | but looks like some of the option are interesting to keep | 09:11 |
Riddell | best keep them then | 09:11 |
yuriy | manchicken: the show list option in there wasn't working either right? that needs to be fixed too if the menu is to go back | 09:11 |
manchicken | show list? | 09:11 |
Tonio_ | hum okay | 09:11 |
yuriy | i think that's what else was in there.. there were 4 options iirc | 09:11 |
Tonio_ | manchicken: will reupload with your patch toonight, and only keep access to the repos management in the "adept" menu | 09:12 |
yuriy | one of them always said "show list" and was disabled. should probably be show list when in details view and show details when in list view | 09:12 |
Riddell | more important is getting the list item arrow back | 09:12 |
yuriy | Riddell: reject bug 92979 or change description according to your comment? | 09:15 |
ubotu | Malone bug 92979 in adept "adept on kubuntu feisty manage repositories does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92979 | 09:15 |
manchicken | Okay... | 09:17 |
manchicken | I'll focus on that then. | 09:17 |
Riddell | yuriy: change description | 09:17 |
yuriy | is the dist-upgrade tool in LP? | 09:18 |
yuriy | bug 93677 | 09:19 |
ubotu | Malone bug 93677 in adept "adept-manager (v2.1 cruiser) shows weird message" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93677 | 09:19 |
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Erunno | Good evening. Is it too late to ask for skipping the filesystem check on ext2/3 systems when a laptop is running on battery ? | 09:21 |
Erunno | Gentoo did that too and it's really beneficial towards the lifespan of a battery ;-) | 09:21 |
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yuriy | manchicken: fix released for bug 80618? | 09:25 |
ubotu | Malone bug 80618 in adept "adept-installer crashes when clicking next on 'there seems to be an update' dialog" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80618 | 09:25 |
manchicken | I believe so. | 09:26 |
manchicken | I should go thank the LP team. | 09:26 |
yuriy | Riddell: so is 92979 an adept or software-properties or sudo bug? | 09:27 |
Majost | does anyone have the i386 daily iso for 20070327? | 09:29 |
Majost | or perhaps a torrent file? | 09:29 |
manchicken | yuriy: could you assign that on with the arrow missing from the adept display to me? I'll try to find the number. | 09:30 |
yuriy | manchicken: woulda done it already if i could find it | 09:31 |
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yuriy | manchicken: want bug 68949? | 09:32 |
ubotu | Malone bug 68949 in adept "Package descriptions are sometimes incorrect and do not match descriptions stored in the package database" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68949 | 09:32 |
manchicken | Ooh, I'm not sure I should say yes to that one. | 09:32 |
manchicken | heh | 09:32 |
manchicken | Riddell: Is there a bug posted for the expanding icon missing issue? | 09:32 |
manchicken | yuriy: Do we know if 68949 is happening on feisty still? | 09:33 |
yuriy | manchicken: how about bug 52461? that one _looks innocent enough | 09:34 |
ubotu | Malone bug 52461 in adept "Fix expanding item description at bottom of table so it no longer expands out of view" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52461 | 09:34 |
yuriy | manchicken: not for sure | 09:34 |
manchicken | yuriy: That one (52461) seems like it could be done better by switching it to a scrollable widget... | 09:35 |
Lure | Riddell, Tonio_: can you sponsor one bugfix upload for me: http://muse.19inch.net/~lure/digikam.debdiff | 09:47 |
manchicken | Does someone have the most up-to-date adept bzr branch? | 09:49 |
Lure | interesting bug 102532 with k3b in gnome... | 09:54 |
ubotu | Malone bug 102532 in Ubuntu "k3b does not run in gnome ubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102532 | 09:54 |
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manchicken | This is frustrating. I can't figure out which package has jsapi.h in it. | 09:57 |
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fdoving | manchicken: doesn't packages.ubuntu.com help you? | 09:58 |
manchicken | Let me try. | 09:59 |
fdoving | firefox-dev, mozilla-thunderbird-dev, libmozjs-dev | 09:59 |
Tonio_ | Lure: will do toonight | 09:59 |
manchicken | fdoving: Very nicely put RTFM :) It's nice to know which documentation to go for :) | 09:59 |
fdoving | !find jsapi.h | 10:00 |
ubotu | File jsapi.h found in firefox-dev, libmozjs-dev, mozilla-dev, mozilla-thunderbird-dev, nvu-dev | 10:00 |
fdoving | there you go, ubotu is smart :) | 10:00 |
Tm_T | smarter than manchicken? | 10:00 |
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manchicken | Nice. | 10:01 |
Lure | Tonio_: thanks | 10:01 |
manchicken | !find jsobj.h | 10:04 |
ubotu | File jsobj.h found in firefox-dev, libmozjs-dev, mozilla-dev, mozilla-thunderbird-dev, nvu-dev | 10:04 |
manchicken | !find jsinterp.h | 10:05 |
ubotu | File jsinterp.h found in firefox-dev, libmozjs-dev, mozilla-dev, mozilla-thunderbird-dev, nvu-dev | 10:05 |
manchicken | Hmm... | 10:06 |
manchicken | libmozjs-dev conflicts with the same things that libsmjs-dev did..... | 10:06 |
DaSkreech | manchicken: New employer? | 10:10 |
manchicken | DaSkreech: Yup. | 10:10 |
manchicken | DaSkreech: Where have you been? :P | 10:10 |
DaSkreech | Lunch | 10:10 |
vprints | bug 102544 | 10:16 |
ubotu | Malone bug 102544 in kdegraphics "Firefox uses not fully functional Kghostview to open PDF's in KDE instead of the system default KPDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102544 | 10:16 |
ScottK | vprints: Why did you file that bug against kdegraphics? | 10:22 |
vprints | cause it didn't let me to do that against kpdf nor kghostview | 10:23 |
ScottK | But isn't the issue that Firefox is calling the 'wrong' application? | 10:23 |
vprints | no, it is the mailcap entry of KPDF | 10:25 |
vprints | mailcap value | 10:26 |
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ScottK | Ah. OK. Thankns | 10:26 |
ScottK | Thanks... | 10:26 |
vprints | np | 10:27 |
Riddell | yuriy: sudo | 10:29 |
manchicken | Grumble... | 10:39 |
manchicken | I'm just gonna work off of the deb-src adept package. | 10:40 |
fdoving | where is the bzr branch? should i fetch it and tar it for you? | 10:41 |
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fdoving | Lure: i have a user in #kubuntu with special-key-problems. nick: 'jnowka' if you have anything special you want him to add to the bugreport. | 10:43 |
fdoving | his 'enable touchpad button' launches khelpcenter. | 10:44 |
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Lure | fdoving: probably wrong mapping, we can follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLaptopKeycodes | 10:45 |
fdoving | ok. | 10:45 |
Lure | fdoving: and LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch for the keys that do not work | 10:45 |
fdoving | great, thanks. | 10:46 |
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DaSkreech | Whoot Debtags work again :) | 10:49 |
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Tonio_ | Lure: patching digikam, fyi | 11:16 |
Lure | Tonio_: thanks | 11:17 |
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DaSkreech | hi jjesse | 11:25 |
giangy | 'evening guys | 11:30 |
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Tonio_ | manchicken: uploading adept with your changes | 11:43 |
manchicken | Tonio_: Groovy. | 11:43 |
Tonio_ | manchicken: sorry for the misscomprehension :) | 11:44 |
manchicken | Totally not a problem :) | 11:44 |
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Tonio_ | is that correct ? misscomprehension ? | 11:44 |
manchicken | So many moving pieces, I'm surprised this is the first misunderstanding of the sort with me :) | 11:44 |
manchicken | Tonio_: Misunderstanding | 11:44 |
Tonio_ | okay ;) | 11:44 |
manchicken | Both make sense. | 11:44 |
manchicken | Automated testing rant: http://blog.notsosoft.net/ | 11:49 |
DaSkreech | manchicken: manchicken's house of hacking? | 11:53 |
manchicken | DaSkreech: Yup. | 11:53 |
DaSkreech | New job/ | 11:53 |
DaSkreech | ? | 11:53 |
manchicken | Yup. | 11:54 |
manchicken | You already asked that. | 11:54 |
DaSkreech | No I asked if you had a new job | 11:54 |
DaSkreech | I didn't ask if the manchicken house of hacking was the new job | 11:54 |
manchicken | Oh, nope. | 11:55 |
DaSkreech | manchicken: Oh Welcome to the nut house | 11:55 |
manchicken | Thanks. | 11:55 |
jjesse | hi DaSkreech | 11:55 |
jjesse | was out running | 11:55 |
manchicken | The new job is actually just an old job, but better this time around :) | 11:55 |
DaSkreech | the new job has nothing to do with your house of hacking? | 11:55 |
DaSkreech | jjesse: :-) | 11:55 |
DaSkreech | manchicken: So still doubleclick? | 12:00 |
DaSkreech | Just ... faster? | 12:00 |
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DaSkreech | hey kwwii | 12:01 |
kwwii | howdy DaSkreech | 12:02 |
manchicken | No. | 12:02 |
manchicken | Not doubleclick anymore. | 12:02 |
manchicken | Back to DigitalWork. | 12:02 |
DaSkreech | kwwii: Feisty got someone to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu cause it was so much prettier | 12:02 |
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DaSkreech | manchicken: Ok what do they do? | 12:02 |
kwwii | hehe, kool | 12:02 |
kwwii | :-) | 12:03 |
manchicken | DaSkreech: http://www.zoomshare.com | 12:03 |
kwwii | so my work on Ubuntu is paying off in a different way :p | 12:03 |
DaSkreech | manchicken: Other than give you OEM great views (tm) ? | 12:03 |
manchicken | DaSkreech: Great views? | 12:03 |
DaSkreech | kwwii: Other than Pay? :-) | 12:03 |
DaSkreech | Youknow | 12:03 |
DaSkreech | like a Vista (tm) almost | 12:03 |
kwwii | I am secretly trying to Konvert people | 12:04 |
kwwii | from now I writing everything with K | 12:04 |
manchicken | DaSkreech: Making me run windows isn't a benefit :) | 12:04 |
manchicken | DaSkreech: It's a concession :) | 12:04 |
DaSkreech | Kool keep it up | 12:05 |
DaSkreech | *koff* | 12:05 |
manchicken | *skratch* | 12:05 |
DaSkreech | Tikks? | 12:05 |
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DaSkreech | manchicken: So just Live CD till they admit that' it's much much more practical | 12:09 |
manchicken | Except that they want internet exploder testing. | 12:09 |
DaSkreech | So Install it under Wine | 12:10 |
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