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itayHi all, how can I disable loading a kde session in vncserver ?12:17
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wimpiesAdjust date and time of my clock refuses to connect to any time server pool. ntpd is able to connect to the pool but AFAIK returns the wrong date.  Timezone seems to be OK12:18
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Black_Cati'm trying to use Ark to open a 7z archive, but it says i don't have a util for that. same about unrar. how do i fix it, what should i download?12:27
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BluesKaj7z ?12:29
kristjanwhy does my laptop occasionaly become so slow that i have to shut it down with the power button? it usually happens when browsing the internet or viewing/editing larger images.12:29
Black_Cat7-zip :)12:30
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Black_Cat.7z is the extension12:30
tuxkristjan: java or flash?12:30
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BluesKaj!zip12:30
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression12:30
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kristjantux: both or neither12:30
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tuxwebsites with flash or java will slow the pc down12:31
kristjantux: it can become slow when receiving a message with kopete12:31
tuxhappens here to12:31
kristjaneven pure text message12:31
tuxhm no that's not supposed to happen kristjan12:31
Black_Catliars :) it can NOT be opened with ark :) but i'll check that link, thanks :)12:31
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kristjanit happened today. i was browsing the internet and chatting at the same time. someone sent me 4 lines of text in kopete and it took about 30 seconds to switch the tab12:32
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BluesKajBlack_Cat, it can be extracted , but it may need to be installes, which is different12:32
BluesKajerr installed12:32
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karel-janwhere can I find this on kubuntu? System > Preferences > Sessions12:33
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tuxhow much RAM do you have kristjan12:34
kristjan512 minus the integrated video12:34
kristjanwhich is 6412:34
tuxthat could be a problem12:34
kristjanthe integrated video or 512 ram?12:34
alphi_512 ram12:34
tuxthe RAM12:34
kristjanhm12:34
karel-janunder system in the startupmenu are no preferences12:35
tuxperhaps i could make a internet share with extra RAM :p12:35
kristjani'd think that there would be problem if i had under 25612:35
alphi_karel why do you need it ?12:35
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karel-janto add beryl to the startup session12:36
Black_Catkarel-jan: go to System settings - panels - menu, add a "settings" option and you will find it :)12:36
kristjani used to have a celeron 300 with 196 ram on windows xp running gta312:36
SSJ_GZ512 MB is *plenty* of RAM for Kubuntu.12:36
kristjani would think so too12:36
tuxreally?12:36
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SSJ_GZtux: Yep.  I ran it for ages on 256MB.12:37
tuxSSJ_GZ: with integrated video memory12:37
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SSJ_GZSSJ_GZ: With a Savage S3!12:37
tuxyeah, and after those ages, it was finally booted?12:37
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karel-janwhere do I find panels?12:38
kristjani used to have xp before, i had no problems with it's performance.12:38
kristjanits*12:38
SSJ_GZtux: Yes.  256MB is not a small amount of memory.12:38
tuxthinks about a Core duo laptop with 512mb video mem and 2gb ram12:38
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tuxi even have double the video memory12:39
tuxand 8 times the ram12:39
tuxw00y12:39
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tuxw00t12:39
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Black_Catkarel-jan: it's uppermost tab of System settings: appearance, _PANEL_, desktop...12:40
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kristjanthe main thing i am annoyed about that kubuntu doesn't reserve any memory so i could close the applications12:40
kristjanabout is that kubuntu*12:40
tuxgood recovery kristjan :D12:41
SSJ_GZkristjan: Something odd going on there.  How many apps do you have open at once? What kind? Do you use Firefox or Azureus?12:41
karel-janBlack_Cat:  I'm using kubuntu 7.04 beta12:41
karel-janthere are no tabs12:41
kristjanusually i have firefox, kopete, amarok, konqueror and gimp running at once12:42
Black_Catkarel-jan: oops sorry, got 6.06 here...12:42
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karel-jannp Black_Cat12:42
kristjanand kane noo12:42
kristjankate*12:42
kristjanand konversation12:42
karel-jancan someone else help me with this problem?12:42
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pingvenoI'm having a bit of a problem with event scheduling on Kontact. There isn't an AM/PM, so whenever I try to set the time to, say, 3:00 in the afternoon it moves the event to 3:00 AM.12:43
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Aldawrite 15:00 :D12:43
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zorglu_q. i did 'move to trash' by mistake, and would like to get my files back ? where are they ? where is the 'trash' ?12:44
pingvenoAlda: I think I already tried that, but I'll check again12:44
Black_Catzorglu_: just type an URL trash:/12:44
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zorglu_thanks12:45
pingvenoIt just says that the start time is invalid12:45
alphi_karel-jan, i just googled your problem and the solution on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397132 seems to be "ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart"12:45
Black_Catsorry for offt12:45
mefisto_gofishmmm I do love my beryl12:45
Aldapingveno: then I'm afriad I have no clue, never used the program myself12:46
pingvenoYeah12:46
alphi_no idea if it will work, but it's worth a shot12:46
kristjani wish i could use beryl too, but that would make my laptop's performance even worse12:46
pingvenoAlda:No surprises there12:46
mefisto_gofishkristjan: too bad12:47
pingvenoIt's not really high profile in the general Linux world.12:47
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mefisto_gofishpingveno: This is in kontact where you're having this problem?12:48
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pingvenoyup12:49
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pingvenoI just started using it a few days ago, so I don't have much knowledge of it12:49
mefisto_gofishpingveno: hmm... here kontact has a little am/pm dropdown next to the box where times are entered12:49
pingvenoWeird12:49
pingvenoMy version doesn't12:49
mefisto_gofishpingveno: perhaps you haven't set up your kde time and date preferences for that12:50
Black_Catspeaking of witch... how can i disable korganizer so it won't appear in tray when i've launched kontact?12:50
pingvenoThe times are repeated in the drop down box twice12:50
geekytrentwhat's a good notebook to get that has suspend/hibernate working correctly?12:52
pingvenoMy laptop, a Thinkpad T43, works perfectly12:52
geekytrentso thinkpad's are the way to go?12:53
pingvenowell, they're *one* way to go12:53
pingvenoThey're pretty expensive, though12:53
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pingvenoSturdy, though12:53
pingvenogreat keyboard12:53
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geekytrenthaha, right....i've been reading for a while on what works/doesn't work from tuxmobil, and just having a hard time finding one that "just works" or that I know I can get to work12:54
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`AnDy`what good i can do with kubuntu and with one is better kubuntu or ubuntu ?12:57
geekytrent`AnDy`: either will do, it's just a personal choice of gnome (ubuntu) or kde (kubuntu)12:58
`AnDy`ok12:58
`AnDy`so no difference ?12:58
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Black_Catonly about desktop manager12:58
`AnDy`ok12:59
geekytrent`AnDy`: nope, in fact, you can have both kde and gnome on either12:59
Black_Catand little specific things you are unlikely to run into :)12:59
`AnDy`:)12:59
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`AnDy`8-) i thout i can install linux and make game server but now i see its not so easy01:00
`AnDy`dont understand shit...to be unest01:00
vithola a todos!!!01:01
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`AnDy`hmm i dint understand that movie stuff :S...how to get codecs01:02
troyhey guys, I'm looking for a package that contains a very specific file - is there any way to search for this somehow?01:02
vitbuenas alguien sabo que debo hacer para ir al canal en espaol?01:02
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Black_Cat!es ! ubuntu01:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about es ! ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:03
troyit used to be in the ia32libs stuff, and now it's gone...01:03
Black_Cat!es | ubuntu01:03
ubotuubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:03
saferHow do I solve the problem of pc not shutting down completely?01:03
Black_Catvt, ^^^01:03
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`AnDy`btw i think you know the problem...when i turn my PC off from kubuntu then its not turning PC off )01:04
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`AnDy`whats wrong ?01:04
Powerking89670Is there anyway to change the icon of the "Shortcuts" you make?01:05
utnubukl01:05
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troynevermind, I just snagged the x86 packages, did dpkg -x, and manually copied the lib into /lib32 :/01:06
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geekytrentPowerking89670: yep, go to properties of the shortcuts, click on the icon01:06
Black_Cati have downloaded 10 games or so, but they won't appear in Kmenu, though i can launch them thru Alt-F2. What's wrong?01:06
Powerking89670doh, why didnt I do that :p01:06
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geekytrentPowerking89670: don't feel bad...i've been missing obvious stuff today too ;P01:07
Black_CatPowerking89670: you mean the bottom-left arrow or the icon itself?01:07
Powerking89670Well after doing hard stuff for hours, I didnt exspect it to be so easy01:07
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Powerking89670I got it black_cat, but thanks for offering help :d01:08
Black_Cat:)01:08
Powerking89670:D*01:08
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Black_Catyw01:08
Black_Cati just don't get it - why don't icons appear in Kmenu right after install? weird.01:09
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Powerking89670Who here hates writing reports as much as I do?01:12
mefisto_gofishI love it.  I've got a little script that lets me plug in an outline and it generates nonsensical babble to fill the rest in01:13
mefisto_gofishbest reports ever01:13
Powerking89670lol01:13
Black_Catnot me. I just love it. especially bugreports :)01:13
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ergergI need help...I installed ATI drivers and I gues I set resolution too high and now I cant get my monitor to work again under Kubuntu..01:13
ergerg is there any way to reconfigure xorg server to previous state?01:14
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Black_Catergerg: but you can get to terminal?01:14
ergergnot at all01:14
knappDoes anyone know what the deal is with flash videos not playing after being paused? or is this problem specific to me?01:14
ergergat this point i cant reach graphical interface01:14
Powerking89670Is there a way to make it so when u click a link it opens firefox instead of Konqueror?01:15
Powerking89670because I hate Konqueror, plain and simple01:15
Black_Catergerg: graphical interface is not required, you need to hit Ctrl-Alt-F101:15
ergergbecause my monitor is telling that resolution is not optimal01:15
Black_Catergerg: enter your login and password there, and try something like: startx -- -depth=1601:16
Black_Cati had the same situation01:16
ergergok01:16
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geekytrenthrm, i'm thinking about getting the 3000 series from lenovo ...cheap and seems have pretty good support.01:16
ergerg i just wot tp present my problem corectly01:16
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Black_Catand if you get to virtual terminal, you can edit xorg server configuration by: sudo edit text/plain:/etc/X11/xorg.conf01:19
ergergtnx I try to set my monitor res as You told me to but if You have a lint to help page dealing to that specific ishue pls tell me.01:19
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ergergthx to You all...:=)01:20
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karel-janhow do you do a hard kill?01:21
Dasnipa`karel-jan, hard kill?01:22
karel-janlike a ctrl alt del- end program01:23
karel-janwhen a program crached01:23
Dasnipa`well theres xkill, and also you could obtain the process id of the app you want to kill and kill -9 <process id>01:23
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Black_Catkarel-jan: or Alt-F2, type "xkill" and you get skull with bones cursor to kill any window you like.01:24
Dasnipa`in console if the app the graphical xkill and then click on the crashed app and it dies. otherwise ps -aux | grep <program> to find PID and then kill -9 <PID>01:24
geniikarel-jan: Try first ctrl-C01:24
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karel-jankill doesn't work01:25
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karel-janI'll try a restart01:25
Dasnipa`heh01:25
Dasnipa`silly ex-windows users OMG program crash restart needed01:25
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Black_Catmaybe not "ex" even :)))) btw, doesn't ctrl-alt-backspace stops all tasks in progress?01:26
geniiJust kills X server01:26
Dasnipa`yeah01:27
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Black_Catbut tasks remain?01:27
geniiany daemons etc keep right on running01:27
Dasnipa`Black_Cat, my favorite windows user using linux question is 'how do i defrag?'01:27
geniiDasnipa`: Yeah thats a classic :)01:28
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Black_CatDasnipa`: ROFL!01:28
geniior: How do I rename files?01:28
Dasnipa`i swear i argued with this one dude for 30 minutes he was absolutely convinced he had to defrag so his install wouldnt slow down and no matter how many times i explained it to him he was like 'so how do i do it?'01:28
geniiDasnipa`: Same deal here but the guy kept wanting to know what the rename command was. you couldn't wrap around the idea that mv IS rename01:29
Black_Catin my case it's "how to get adobe photoshop working under linux"... job-specific, you know...01:29
Dasnipa`genii, shoulda made him a custom .bashrc where you did something like alias rename='mv'01:30
MuJhrrmpph01:30
Black_Catgenii: really strange because on win32 filemanagers rename IS move :)01:30
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Dasnipa`Black_Cat, in soviet russia fsck you ;)01:31
MuJdoes it actually say:"move?"01:31
geniiBlack_Cat: I remember it used to be in DOS   ren     or something01:31
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Black_CatMuJ: well, i meant it said "Rename/Move" in things like FAR manager or TotalCmdr01:32
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MuJthose aren't default.. most people don't even know what those are01:33
MuJbut if it says "rename" on default windows file manager then it IS rename.. no matter how it works.. that's how people see it in their minds :P01:33
Black_Cathere in "soviet russia" it's much more popular than default explorer :)01:33
geniiYes, the new command must be named like the old one01:34
MuJand in norhtern korea cats eat people? :)01:34
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Black_Catlol01:34
Black_Catgot to sleep a few hours. see you later guyz!01:35
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geekytrentso anything new going on?01:37
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MuJsooo.. not really01:38
geekytrentexciting lol01:39
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karel-janmy audio is not working01:40
gost87no saben espaol01:41
karel-jancan i download some audio drivers for creative on kubuntu 7.0401:41
karel-jan,01:41
karel-jan?01:41
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MuJ!es01:41
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:41
jhutchinskarel-jan: 7.04 is in #ubuntu+101:42
jhutchinskarel-jan: I understand that there is a new kernel in the pipeline that will solve some of the common sound problems.01:42
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Dasnipa`karel-jan, well that explains a few things... if you dont know a lot about linux then you shouldnt be using a feisty until its out of beta01:44
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geniikarel-jan: Do you see a speaker in the bottom right?01:46
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geniiif so, if no red X over it then the system sees it properly already. You may need to just right-click on it, open the mixer and un-mute whatever PCM devices01:48
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Dasnipa`Re|ent|ess, oh my that is quite enough of that01:49
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Re|ent|essso active @ night but now it dead01:51
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:51
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chemicalvamphowdy all02:02
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chemicalvampis there a md5sum checker already installed with fresh 6.10 cd install?02:03
ebotvinekatani, yeah, ethernet02:03
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koflerIs there a way to get w to print out the full user names just as who does? With w, after six or seven letters, the usernames get chopped off.02:08
chemicalvampcan u see them in user managment?02:08
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kofler?02:09
ebotvineweedar: I could, though. try dystopianray's suggestion02:09
chemicalvampwat you mean in the konversation?02:09
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koflerchemicalvamp: Are you talking to me?02:10
ebotvineforemost doesnt do the job02:10
chemicalvampyeah02:10
sound_fxHello, I'm having trouble installing the flashplugin-nonfree, it seems to fail every time for me, could someone help?02:10
chemicalvampkofler, sorry nevermind i dont know what you mean02:10
ebotvinecan anyone here use flightgear02:11
kofler:(02:11
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chemicalvampsound_fx, what archetecture?02:11
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sound_fxUm, I'm using Kubuntu x86?02:11
ebotvineJucato: new libs?02:11
sound_fxIs that what you wanted to know?02:11
SolidSourcesound_fx: in konsole type "sudo apt-get install -f"02:11
Yorokobisound_fx, what error do you get?02:11
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chemicalvampSolidSource, so you use a pentium processor02:12
kkerwinDoes Kubuntu's default edgy install include a firewall, or is that an optional package?02:12
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Yorokobikkerwin, it comes with iptables but you have to configure it.02:12
ebotvinecatid: which applet? the one for the process...02:12
kkerwinYorokobi: Thank you.02:12
kkerwinYorokobi: Can you recommend a good KDE gui?02:12
SolidSourcesound_fx: then type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" .....if you have the repo, it should install or give error message02:12
Yorokobikkerwin, lokkit or shorewall are good tools. Neither is a gui02:13
sound_fxok02:13
sound_fxI have blue screen02:13
ebotvineweedar: I can do  in Konsole... check Konsole's Settings -> and setup LAMP02:13
sound_fxSaying install? I'm going to pick yes02:13
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sound_fx"automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"02:13
SolidSourcesound_fx: huh? how are you trying to install?02:14
tmbgkofler, did you try w/ -s (short)? since it cuts out other information it might print the full usernames02:14
ebotvinesubone: cool..i myself dont take the patience thing too seriously ;)02:14
sound_fxSolidSource: I did your commands, and selected "yes"02:14
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Yorokobikkerwin, guarddog is the iptables gui for KDE02:14
ebotvinelol02:14
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sound_fxYou want me to paste everything?02:15
kkerwinYorokobi: Thank you very much. I'll look into it, as well as KMyFirewall.02:15
SolidSourcesound_fx: paste-bin02:15
koflertmbg: It doesn't, I tried that.02:15
sound_fxpaste-bin02:15
ebotvineok waylandbill do i view ONLY the packages on the dvd in the BACKGROUND?02:15
sound_fxhow does that work?02:15
Yorokobi!paste02:15
SolidSourcesound_fx: http://pastebin.sk/en/02:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:15
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Re|ent|ess!paste | sound_fx02:16
ubotusound_fx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:16
SolidSource....02:16
Re|ent|essi just wanted to do that02:16
Re|ent|ess:D02:16
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ebotvineany idea?02:16
sound_fxSolidSouce: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13611/02:16
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sound_fxThat obviously doesn't show the accept screen02:17
ebotvinecrazyrobot: change your console font to the retailers. what ever walmart carries that's what i was asking....02:17
kumamotowhat is the deal with kubuntu using gstreamer?02:17
SolidSourcesound_fx: thats fine, do you have firefox installed?02:17
sound_fxNo02:18
ebotvinebut yeah at any rate, cygwin is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the MBR02:18
Re|ent|esssound_fx  use the source02:18
ebotvinelook at the blinking cursor02:18
sound_fxRe|ent|ess, could you go to more detail about that?02:19
kumamotocan't seem to find a gstreamer engine for amarok or streaming with konqueror02:19
Yorokobisound_fx, download the tar.gz from the adobe website02:19
Re|ent|esssound_fx do you know how to compile ?02:19
SolidSourcesound_fx: yeah just do it by source, its as easy as copy-paste02:19
ebotvineprepares an umbrella for eventual explosion02:19
Re|ent|esssound_fx: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Download_Mozilla_Source_Code02:20
sound_fxOk02:20
sound_fxI have downloaded tar.gz from Adobe website02:20
SolidSourceRe|ent|ess: thats not what we are doing02:20
Yorokobiwhy would he want to download the Mozilla source, Re|ent|ess ?02:20
ebotvineok02:20
SolidSourceRe|ent|ess: and no compile necessary for flash02:20
Re|ent|essi talking firfox02:20
Re|ent|essflash = sux02:21
Yorokobisound_fx, tar xzvf the.tar.gz to uncompress it02:21
ebotvineif you man tar or man rsync they have a font for the types of setups I just ran e2fsck on my laptop earlier with no in the Commands field02:21
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ebotvinegotcha..02:22
SolidSourcesound_fx: konqueror shouldn't even need that plugin anyway, it has its own plugin for flash and java02:22
sound_fxI uncompressed the file02:22
SolidSourcesound_fx: so if firefox isn't installed, there won't be a place for you to copy the files to02:22
kumamotoanyone know where I can find gstreamer engine02:22
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YorokobiAn alternative to flash is gnash or klash02:22
Arwennot that they're much of an alternative02:22
SolidSourceYorokobi: not what I am talking about02:23
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sound_fxI am reaching websites requesting I install flash 9. I installed some sort of flash thing for Konqueror on the page, but I guess it wasn't new enough.02:23
Yorokobisound_fx, cd to the new directory, then sudo ./INSTALL (or whatever it is :))02:23
Re|ent|esskumamoto: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/extragear-multimedia/amarok/faq13.html02:23
ebotvinei did that befor i will try again02:23
sound_fxOk, asking to close all browsers, I did that. hitting "enter"02:24
sound_fxAsking to install in /home/user/.mozilla, I will hit "yes"02:25
kumamotothanks for that I need to get the engine itself02:25
ebotvinei'll setup a test system with special mountpoints and see the full user names just as it also changes in word?02:25
Yorokobisound_fx, follow the instructions. If you don't have firefox installed then the /home/yourname works02:25
Re|ent|esskumamoto yvw02:25
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sound_fxAsks perform another installation, I will hit "no"02:26
Re|ent|esslol02:26
ebotvinesound_fx: thats fine, do you install linux on ipod but i suppose i still have to?02:26
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sound_fxebotvine: what?02:27
ebotvine:-)02:27
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sound_fxOk, seems to have worked! Thanks.02:27
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sound_fxIt says to exit session02:27
Yorokobisound_fx, np02:27
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sound_fxI will log out and log in again, hopefully I won't be back in this channel. :)02:28
ebotvineJucato: I mean why they haven't packaged it for you the way the app works the settings files store the personal changes you make from within the running app.02:28
Yorokobisound_fx, depends on what you log out of02:28
sound_fxYorokobi: What do you mean by that?02:29
ebotvine!screensavers02:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:29
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Yorokobisound_fx, if you log out of KDE, it'll close the IRC program (and everything else in X).02:29
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sound_fxYorokobi: Ah, ok. :)02:30
chemicalvampquick question, http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/ would the files in the links in the top, have the exact same checksums as the same filename at the bottom of the page?02:30
ebotvineis that a little more. but i can find the cygwim02:30
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Yorokobichemicalvamp, yes, they should02:32
ebotvineSorry, I don't see that option02:33
YorokobiAre you having a conversation with yourself ebotvine ?02:33
philphotoanyone out there recently switch to feisty?  have any problems?02:33
ebotvineI think is the same problems with different characters?02:33
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chemicalvampphilphoto, i had some issues lol02:33
Yorokobiphilphoto, yes and yes and no02:33
philphotoI'm having some issues right now.02:34
chemicalvampwhats that02:34
ebotvinechuckles at riuken.02:34
philphotoError: KDesktop: "the process for the fild protocol died unexpectedly"02:34
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chemicalvampdid i tell yu what happned to mine?02:36
philphotoI just got on here, no02:36
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chemicalvampcompleted the 5 hour download, and at the end of the 2 hour install i got "upgrade tool crashed" when i rebooted... all i got was a command prompt02:37
philphotoaw man that's horrible.02:37
chemicalvampdownloading te iso now02:37
ebotvinehelp!!02:37
chemicalvamp!help02:37
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kumamotodamned gstreamer02:38
ebotvineanyone have any problems?02:38
chemicalvampyes lol02:38
chemicalvampi need to verify this iso's checksum when its done.. and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto makes now sense to me02:39
ebotvineok02:39
firecrotch!pdf02:39
Yorokobiheh, chemicalvamp : md5sum <filename>02:39
kumamotoyes if anyone can direct me to a gstreamer engine package I would be grateful02:39
ubotupdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)02:39
ebotvinelaptop yeah i do like nice terrasync -p 5500 -d //usr/share/games/FlightGear/Scenery02:39
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chemicalvampgracias02:40
Yorokobikumamoto, for what? Amarok?02:40
ebotvinebut almost 2x faster cp time... with cp i'll consider the options there. do you use a /boot partition. before grub can reinstall i'll have to configure it.02:40
kumamotofor everything that can stream since xine can't stream for shit02:41
kumamotofrom kaffeine to konqueror02:41
chemicalvamptrue xine has never worked for me, but do mind your labguage02:41
ebotvinecrackhead_25 not intrepted. just as who does? With w, after six or seven letters, the usernames get chopped off.02:41
Yorokobikumamoto, use either adept or synaptic (or, my favorite, dselect) to search for gstreamer02:42
kumamotoI found some but don't seem to work am just getting frustrated02:42
chemicalvampwhats dselect?02:43
ebotvinewell thats not what we are doing02:43
Yorokobi!info dselect02:43
ubotudselect: user tool to manage Debian packages. In component main, is standard. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 1848 kB02:43
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chemicalvampahh i tried !dselect anf got nothin02:43
ericsh??02:44
ebotvineso is more :)02:44
ericsh:)02:44
firecrotchI can't find the Adobe reader plugin for Firefox at all02:44
Yorokobifirecrotch, feisty or edgy?02:44
firecrotchfeisty02:45
Yorokobifirecrotch, it doesn't exist :)02:45
YorokobiI downloaded it from adobe and manually installed it.02:46
ebotvineArwen: i cant get it to drop this work and help in here ?02:46
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firecrotchYorokobi: How did you manually install it?02:48
ebotvineorange1 that's what sells the most02:48
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Aloneaumm, how do I get permissions for my other harddrive? says owner is root...02:48
Yorokobifirecrotch, I downloaded the .tar.gz from the Adobe website, untar/gz'd it, ran the install ... tada02:48
firecrotchYorokobi: Oh, I figured it would be more complicated than that...02:48
HymnToLife`Yorokobi, I apt-get install'ed flashplugin-nonfree ... tada :p02:49
ebotvineorange1: you could build it.02:49
YorokobiHymnToLife`, me too02:50
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soulriderhi everyone!02:51
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ebotvinemischko that was possible02:51
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soulrideri was using arch linux for the while day, its fast, but the repos are slow and its so badly documented02:52
darrylI am using Webmin on my ubuntu server.  I was setting up my DHCP and I got an error:   "Starting DHCP server DHCPD3 .... failed.  Can I get some help?02:54
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Yorokobidarryl, does dhcpd3 log to /var/log/something? If so, check the log02:56
ebotvineno i have not; *nux is not an issue.02:56
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darrylI will check02:56
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CaptainApathyhow do I configure kubuntu to use my 4th and 5th buttons no my mouse?  I want firefox and konqueror to both treat them as go-forward and go-back02:57
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dekinonomy only guess is an OS reload03:01
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YorokobiCaptainApathy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons03:02
SesshoumaruYorokobi, can you help me mount a ntfs hdd ?  ;)03:02
ebotvineit isn't. flaccid set | less03:02
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YorokobiSesshoumaru, I feel like I've been down that road before. hehe03:03
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SesshoumaruYorokobi, i'm dying here, my external hdd works but not the internal03:04
ebotvine!kicker03:04
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YorokobiSesshoumaru, paste the results of 'fdisk -l' to pastebin03:04
Yorokobi!paste | Sesshoumaru03:04
ubotuSesshoumaru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:04
SesshoumaruYorokobi, the hdd has my life in it.. (WoW),(Counter-Strike),(GTA)  ;)03:05
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SesshoumaruYorokobi, i did fdisk -l   nothing showed up03:06
Menaehhhhhhhhhhh its the third time happened with me ... i cant conect to the intenet on Linux and i can On Xp03:06
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Menathough i am using The Same settings for all03:06
Yorokobiokay Sesshoumaru 'cat /proc/partitions'03:07
SesshoumaruYorokobi, the hdd in not installed right now >.<  sorry brb03:08
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ebotvineLinux_Galore: trough ftp03:08
cpk1Sesshoumaru: sometimes you need to use sudo when you use fdisk to get everything to show up03:08
Yorokobicpk1, good call03:08
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cpk1hope he saw that haha03:09
ebotvinexubuntu will not install it goes to all black screen03:09
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erich_Greetings, I'm having a problem getting jini to install on a kubuntu 64bit VMware installation... I get loads of libc dependency problems when I try to start up the jini services...03:09
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erich_no one's actually in the java channel...03:09
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erich_I tried stripping export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL from the install .bin... still no dice.03:10
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kgx0has anyone here anywork with php and openid? which would be the best library to use?03:11
ebotvineHow to change the host name03:12
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kemixtryis there any method to force kate underline misspelled words?03:19
ebotvineintelikey, k03:19
SesshoumaruYorokobi, here is both cat /proc/partitions and sudo fdisk -l    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13613/03:19
YorokobiSesshoumaru, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/c' then 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/c'03:20
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Sesshoumarumount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist03:22
ebotvinethat another good thing to try if that doesn't guarantee you'll have the exact same checksums as the same machine im currently logged into??03:22
YorokobiSesshoumaru, well, that was a guess (/dev/hdb1 ... is the fdisk -l with the ntfs drive plugged in or no?03:23
adydasyour not trying to mount a usb harddrive are you?03:24
Powerking89670lol, I am having so much fun. I am part of some project, and a rival project is spamming us lol03:24
Sesshoumaruno.. the usb hdd works03:24
Yorokobiadydas, nope03:24
ebotvineyou are on? Or is the mac hwaddr in ifconfig?03:24
adydasoh ok03:25
SesshoumaruYorokobi, the hdd doesn't even show up in fdisk03:25
ebotvineKool: no i made a slight joke. if you want from KSysGuard to the same luck.03:25
YorokobiSesshoumaru, is windows using the whole disk ?03:26
ebotvinei was told to go to more detail about that?03:26
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kemixtryis there any method to force kate underline misspelled words?03:26
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Yorokobikemixtry, install kate-plugins03:27
ebotvinechuckles at riuken.03:27
kemixtryYorokobi: oh03:27
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kemixtryYorokobi: didn't know something like that existed03:27
Apollo^101hai all03:27
ebotvinei have 78% of the 2 hour install i got "upgrade tool crashed" when i rebooted... all i got "upgrade tool crashed" when i type PS x.. I get this on the dvd in the field where it says "Ready" (booting live) it hangs with just a blinking cursor right now?03:27
Apollo^101how to get the latest kernel in kubuntu?03:28
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YorokobiApollo^101, for edgy or feisty?03:29
Apollo^101iam using kubuntu 6.1003:29
Apollo^101i dont know its edgy or fiesy03:29
ebotvineflaccid: yeah, env is cleaner. filename completion is built into bash in the c source and compiled as part of the floor when you turn the computer starts and it worked03:29
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Apollo^101Yorokobi, what is it03:30
ebotvineSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
liamdoes anyone know the path of the configuration file for the x server?03:30
YorokobiApollo^101, the latest for 6.10 is 2.6.13 so the package to have installed is linux-generic03:31
Yorokobiliam, /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:32
ebotvineHow*03:32
liamthanks Yorokobi! I just couldnt remember03:32
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Apollo^101Yorokobi, no. iam already using 2.6.17-1003:33
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Yorokobioh ... heh, that's what I get for using my memory :)03:34
ebotvinecatid: everything, whole new version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be fine as frog hair split four ways then.03:34
Apollo^101Yorokobi, 2.3.13 is not latest03:34
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YorokobiApollo^101, if you want 2.6.20+ you'll have to roll your own or upgrade to feisty (7.04 beta)03:35
ebotvinemischko the last guy who cut in front of him." She never said a word, just stayed right there.03:35
kalorin`ok so how come after I put in the ati drivers and a background image all the nice icons for disks are now gone?03:35
kalorin`that's "bothersome"03:35
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SesshoumaruYorokobi, is there a program that manages hard drives?03:35
Apollo^101Yorokobi, betas are not good. are they?03:36
ebotvinehow do i set the permission to run dhcl eth0 :)03:36
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YorokobiSesshoumaru, probably. I'd have to look to know for sure03:36
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YorokobiApollo^101, I'm using it on 2 of 3 of my Kubuntu boxes. It seems okay03:37
Sesshoumaruwww.AskYorokobi.com (^_^)03:37
Sesshoumarui'll look around for something..03:38
YorokobiSesshoumaru, haha ... I may have to register that domain now.03:38
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Apollo^101Yorokobi, how to upgrade to fiesty by internet?03:38
ebotvinewhy dont like ease of use?03:39
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YorokobiApollo^101, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade03:39
sayersHow do I make it so each workspace doesnt carry out little applicication things in the system tray thing...  In other words how do I make each new virtual desktop contain its-self rather than having all this crap mixed together making the other 3 dekstops useless?03:39
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Yorokobisayers, 1) switch to the other desktop /then/ launch the app or 2) right-click the title bar and "Move to Desktop"03:40
ebotvineBeryl are using bash_completion set will show you that idea?03:40
Yorokobisayers, or do you want each desktop to only list the apps specific to that desktop?03:41
knappWhere might I find logs for updates/aptitude?03:41
ebotvineok...03:41
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sayersYorokobi: Even if I send them to another desktop the button to re-maximize them is still there03:42
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Yorokobisayers, I don't follow?03:43
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Yorokobis/?/./03:43
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ebotvineand KDE is running, yay. it's great when things go this smooth03:43
Apollo^101Yorokobi, ok03:43
kemixtryknapp: synaptic/file/history03:43
kemixtryknapp: oh, don't know about aptitude03:43
sayersYorokobi: In gnome if you go to another desktop none of the launched icons are there. Here they are on each desktop.03:44
ebotvineyes03:44
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vit_hola a todos!!!!03:44
Yorokobisayers, are you referring to the task bar or system tray?03:44
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sayersTask bar03:44
ebotvinecause it will write to $MOUNTPOINT/boot/grub/* and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a configuration file.03:44
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asauphi all03:45
vit_como esta la gente!?!?!?03:45
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sayersYorokobi: The taskbar, thing is I didnt have that word in my mouth at the moment03:45
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knappIn aptitude theres an option in the toolbar that says "Show Last Download" but it's greyed out.03:45
ebotvineYorokobi: Ah, ok. :)03:45
yurimxpxmanis there any way to use Word documents in koffice?03:45
asauphow can i save the resolv.conf because every time i restart it changes03:46
Yorokobisayers, right click the panel, go to "Configure panel" then click on the Taskbar option on the left.03:46
kemixtrysayers: it's easy to fix this: in konsole run "kcontrol" and then navigate to desktop/taskbar and uncheck everything except "show applications icons" then "group similar tasks" NEVER03:46
knappDoes anyone know where I can find aptitude logs or what updates were last done??03:46
vit_ necesito instalar NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!03:46
kemixtryknapp: i don't think aptitude logs anything that you do03:46
ebotvineis evolution a gnome product?03:46
yurimxpxmanebotvine: yes03:46
Yorokobiasaup, remove the resolvconf package03:46
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sayerskemixtry: thanks03:47
vit_ I need to install NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!03:47
vit_ I need to install NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!03:47
ebotvineintelikey: that's why it's called "Auto" Identify03:47
asaupno no i mean the resolve.conf where i put the nameserver03:47
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kemixtrysayers: np03:47
intelikeyebotvine ?03:48
Yorokobiasaup, yeah, believe me. Remove the resolvconf package03:48
sayerskemixtry: that is the ONLY reason I didnt like KDE and used gnome so now I am very happy.03:48
ebotvinethe source is source of course.03:48
kemixtrysayers: i added some more fixes to make it look more like windows03:48
YorokobiIt won't remove /etc/resolv.conf03:48
intelikeyebotvine03:48
intelikeyebotvine03:48
kemixtrysayers: heh, cool03:48
sayerskemixtry: Like?03:48
asaupok03:48
asaupi'll try it03:48
kemixtrysayers: "never group similar tasks"03:48
ebotvinesec looking up the page that has a few places there, but that's the intention anyway. ;-)03:48
sayerskemixtry: I do like the feel of SOME parts of windows, others agrivate me03:48
asaupYorokobi: thanx03:48
Yorokobiintelikey, I don't know what the deal is with ebotvine03:48
vit_ I need to install NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!03:49
sayersvit_: I can03:49
kemixtrysayers: well, i just thought you were a newbye so that's why i thought you wanted kde to be a little more windows-like03:49
intelikeywho's opped around here ?03:49
vit_ I need to install NETBEANS!!! anybody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!03:49
intelikeyops ?03:49
ebotvineAbortD: no03:49
Yorokobivit_, try the #java or google03:49
sayerskemixtry: Well no I have been using ubuntu for a total of 3 months and linux for atleast 4 months.03:49
os2macStop with the updates to fiesty already :)03:49
kemixtrysayers: still quite new to *nix, anyway :)03:50
ebotvineriuken: which one them?03:50
os2maceverytime I have logged into Kubuntu since I did the dist upgrade I have had updates03:50
intelikey!ops   ebotvine needs to go03:50
sayerskemixtry: true :S03:50
vit_ Yorokobi I tryed it!!!!03:50
vit_ Yorokobi please install it and teach me how to install!!!!03:51
Yorokobivit_, netbeans is off topic for this channel03:51
ebotvinethey do not appear as tables03:51
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sayerskemixtry: the best part about linux, which is because of open-source, is all the programs for free. With windows you have to pay for a damn MP3 converter and all this junk where on linux besides games it has everything. And the games part is slowly getting decent03:51
vit_%c4 Yorokobi I need it..... please03:51
vit_ Yorokobi I need it..... please03:52
ebotvinein the Adept Installer and nothing.03:52
intelikey!ops03:52
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal03:52
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kemixtrysayers: right03:53
naliothintelikey: yes?03:53
intelikeyebotvine  !03:53
ebotvineKool: no i have been tested to work on getting X to work.03:53
Yorokobivit_, my personal mantra regarding Java: Java has its place but I have no place for Java. I don't know anything about NetBeans unless you want to talk WebLogic, in which case, you can ask BEA.03:53
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intelikeynalioth see ebotvine the confusion making bot.03:54
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sayersvit_: Why not use eclipse?03:54
intelikeythank you.03:54
vit_ Yorokobi thanks men03:54
Yorokobiby all03:54
chemicalvampbb03:54
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sayersvit_: and there is a wiki that knows all . Or a lot of things03:54
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vito sayers ok... let me see03:55
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sayersWhat the hell. Sensors-detect doesnt work...03:55
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intelikeynalioth thanks.   i do hate artifical stupidty bots...03:56
eeanmsayers: yea I've seen that on boot up03:56
eeanmI don't know what it means ;)03:56
sayersNo its a manual terminal thing03:56
sayersand I need it to continue with fan editing03:56
sayerslet me see , I think the updates *may* have fixed it.03:57
naliothintelikey: i'm hunting the artificially stupid owner now . . .03:57
intelikeyhappy hunting.03:57
asaupadept has found some feisty packages for me but it says that i have to open the kubuntu update to upgrade to feisty03:57
asaupwhat do i have to do to upgrade03:59
intelikey!upgrade | asaup04:00
ubotuasaup: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:00
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asaupintelikey: i have upgraded to edgy04:00
sayersAh simple error, I wasnt su04:00
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sayersIn a few days you will upgrade to Feisty :?04:01
asaupbut i get an upgrade wizard now to upgrade to feisty04:01
sayersrawr another reboot04:01
intelikeyasaup when feisty is released there is supposed to be a simple "install this package and it sets up the auto upgrade"  thingy04:01
asaupintelikey: thanx04:02
intelikeyasaup yes that's the one.    feisty support is in   #ubuntu+104:02
chemicalvampintelikey, thats cool, any info on it?04:02
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intelikeychemicalvamp i'm sure there will be plenty.   you can ask in #ubuntu+1  now.04:02
ironcladloueven though my power settings are configured to "do nothing" when the lid is closed or when idle, if i leave my laptop lid closed for a while, my screen remains blank when i open it back up. can't wake up KDE, can't shut down X... all i can do is cold boot. what gives? (kubunty 7.04)04:03
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ironcladloui experienced the same thing with Ubuntu feisty, also04:04
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intelikeyironcladlou until it releases  7.4 questions are in  #ubuntu+104:04
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ironcladlouintelikey: alrighty04:05
sayersIs Konqurer a good web browser?04:05
intelikeysayers yes04:05
sayersintelikey: should I get used to it?04:05
intelikeyif you like it.04:05
intelikeythere are lots of browesrs avalable04:05
enzoHello everyone04:06
sayersWell KDE is cool but weird, I am so used to Gnome04:06
enzoI'm trying to figure out why Kubuntu won't read my friend's mp3 player.04:06
intelikeypeople say that about gnome04:06
enzoIt's a Philips GoGear hdd1630/17 6gb player04:06
intelikey!mp3 | enzo04:07
ubotuenzo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:07
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enzointelikey: But what if I can't even view the contents of the mp3 player?04:07
intelikeyummm that might be a different matter.04:07
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intelikeyenzo can you play mp3's that you can 'view' ?04:08
vito I need to install NETBEANS!!! anybody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!04:08
sayersstop repeating your self!04:08
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sayersvito: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans?highlight=%28netbeans%2904:09
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billok, I'm am seriously getting mad....I cannot manually write partition tables to this compact flash card04:10
billI could before, then I upgraded everything04:10
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intelikeybill nothing accessing it is there ?04:11
billand someone told me to try to use the LiveCD, but that didnt help because the LiveCD wouldn't load my hard drive so I could write the table.sct file to the CF card04:11
billhere, let me pastebin it04:11
intelikeylsof /dev/<devicenode>04:12
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asaupwhere do i find my repositories list ??04:13
asaupsorry but i am newbie04:14
intelikeyasaup /etc/apt/sources.list04:14
asaupintelikey: thanx04:14
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intelikeyasaup then i should advice you that files in /etc are restricted to root access for writing.    you will have to be root to change anything.04:15
intelikey!root | asaup04:15
ubotuasaup: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:15
intelikey!kdesu | asaup04:15
ubotuasaup: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo04:15
chemicalvampright but i hear you really must use kdesu04:15
tedbrewhello04:16
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chemicalvampkdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:16
intelikeyor sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:16
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chemicalvampi thoguth sudo was bad for that kinda thing04:16
intelikeyor  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   if they are installed  (gnome)04:16
Apollo^101can i upgrade kubuntu 6.10 from a live cd of kubuntu fiesty ?04:16
intelikeychemicalvamp read the bot posts again.  ^04:17
chemicalvamphttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php04:17
intelikeyApollo^101 no.04:17
billintelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13621/04:17
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jujujuwhat package do i download to get the mp3 and avi support?04:18
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billI really need this....I need to get my Palm fixed ASAP04:19
Apollo^101which is the latest kernel that kubuntu edgy and fiesty supports?04:19
MenaI need to make Fiesty conect to the internet but i cant ehhhhh i can conect on Xp but linux not04:19
jujuju!avi04:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:19
MenaThought all setting are the same04:19
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Menano help on ubuntu +104:20
Menaand also thi shappned befor with edgy04:20
Menathis04:20
chemicalvampis it wireless?04:20
chemicalvampmena, ^04:20
Menano04:21
Menaeth004:21
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enzointelikey: Sorry, I had to answer the door. Yes, I can listen to the mp3s from my mp3 player, but not my friends.04:22
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soulriderhey everyone04:23
soulriderenzo: DRM ?04:24
enzosoulrider: DRM???04:24
firecrotchcan anyone point me towards a good guide for setting up an email server?04:24
soulriderdigital rights management04:24
Apollo^101can i upgrade kubuntu 6.10 from a live cd of kubuntu fiesty ?04:24
soulriderenzo: maybe they music is 'protected' and you cant play it04:25
soulriderApollo^101: im not sure04:25
enzosoulrider: maybe. It's from a Philips 6GB GoGear player04:25
soulriderApollo^101: you wanna wait though04:25
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soulriderits still beta04:25
soulriderenzo: imean if the mp3 files ar protected04:25
soulridernot the player04:25
soulrider!drm04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
enzoShouldn't be04:25
soulrideroh04:26
soulriderits kinda strange04:26
enzoyup04:26
soulrideryour mp3s play fine on kubuntu right ?04:26
enzoyup04:26
Mena!ipv604:26
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soulrideri guess thats hte problem, i really dont know04:26
soulridertheya re probably protected or something, i cant think of another reason04:26
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Apollo^101solomon_, from where can i know04:27
intelikeybill where is the system installed      and  does grep sda /proc/mounts     say anything ?04:27
enzoEven the mp3's from my mp3 player. His mp3 player doesn't even load04:27
soulriderApollo^101: feisty is still in beta, upgrading isnt a very good idea04:27
soulriderenzo: hios mp3 player wont load your mp3s ?04:27
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intelikeyApollo^101 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php04:28
Apollo^101soulrider, ok. but how can i have the latest kerenl. i mean by the package manager. the easy way. not compiling it04:28
enzohis mp3 player won't load into my desktop04:28
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soulriderApollo^101: if you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it will downlaod the latest kernel int he edgy repos04:28
billydoes anyone know what the linux equivelent to the DOS command "ipconfig" is?04:29
soulriderthe onyl way to get a newer one is compiling or installing feisty, but again, feisty is still beta, unless you REALLY NEED a new kernel, i wouldnt go for it04:29
intelikeyApollo^101 the latest kernel for your release should be installed   if not so   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     should install it.04:29
enzobilly: ifconfig04:29
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billythank you04:29
Apollo^101soulrider, apt dist upgrade, will upgrade the whole distribution to 7.03....  right?04:29
enzonp04:29
soulriderApollo^101: nope04:29
soulriderit will update all packages04:30
soulriderbut not upgrade to feisty04:30
soulriderthats a whole different process04:30
Apollo^101ok04:30
sayersWhy are so many obessed with Feisty today?04:30
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soulridersayers: thats been going on for hte past week04:30
soulrideri guess its all the excitement04:30
intelikeyApollo^101 no.  apt-get dist-upgrade   only upgrades to the version that is set in the sources.list.  if you change that then it changes the upgrade prosess04:30
soulrideri hope its relatively bug free when it come sout04:31
oriis there a way to disable kde's notification about application crashes that occured?04:31
sayersThere is like 2 things to be kinda exited about04:31
soulrideri wish i could do more coding and help ouy04:31
soulriderout*04:31
soulridersayers: there are lots of minor changes04:31
sayersNone that I saw , just a lot of dumb problems04:31
intelikeyrelatively bug free <<<   heh04:31
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sayersbut that was a month ago04:31
intelikeyrelative to what ?04:31
sayersNvidia04:31
sayersOn the 19th when it's released I will probably get it :)04:32
billydoes anyone know how to refer to windows network paths in linux?  for example, if I wanted to copy a file \\server\share\foo.txt from the command line04:32
soulriderintelikey: to a perfect system :P04:32
billintelikey : grep sda /proc/mounts doesn't do anything....it just brings up another cammand line. And this Linux is installed on hda5.04:32
intelikeysoulrider then not a "chian man's chance."   as they say.04:33
Apollo^101soulrider, apt-get upgrade will also upgrade all packages?04:33
soulriderApollo^101: yueah, im not sure about the exact difference though04:33
soulriderjust do an apt-get dist-upgrade04:33
intelikeybill ok then the input/output error "should not be caused by a partition being mount on the disk"  unless it's usb....    it is usb isn't it?04:34
Apollo^101ok04:34
intelikeybill are there any related icons on the desktop ?04:34
billyes, it is the card reader in my printer over USB04:35
billnope04:35
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sayerswhat was the Kde config command where I messed with the taskbar?04:35
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chemicalvampkconfig i believe04:35
billsee, that's the thing....my partition tables became corrupt last week, so I installed linux on a new partition borrowing space from the first partition because the first partition was the only one that wasn't corrupt04:35
os2machow do I re autodetect my monitor/video settings...04:35
billanyways, now whenever I plug in any USB disc, it never pops up or anything04:36
os2macI have managed to screw them up and can't get them to reset correctly04:36
sayersos2mac: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver I believe it is04:36
billand it doesn't show it under the media folder, and I can't access it in /dev/04:36
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billthe same with the hard drive04:36
intelikeybill    lsmod | grep usb04:36
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os2macsayers: didn't work04:38
__bill__sorry, internet cut out...last thing I saw was "grep sda /proc/mounts"04:38
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intelikeybill  any output ?04:38
__bill__er, not that04:38
intelikeybill    lsmod | grep usb04:39
__bill__the last thing I saw was "<-- billy has left this server (Remote closed the connection)."04:39
__bill__ok, let me pastebin04:39
soulriderdamn beryl, it wont load my decorations!04:39
intelikeysoulrider yes yes  cursed be that beryl04:40
soulriderlol04:40
os2macanyone. help.... trying to reconfigure x automatically04:40
intelikeya hex upon it,  never again shall it function on your system....04:40
soulriderit allways worked nicely for me04:40
__bill__intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13622/04:40
soulriderintelikey: youre just jelous :P04:41
intelikeyi don't thinks.   sarcastic, often;  facious, maybe.  jelous no.04:41
soulrideri was just joking04:42
soulriderits not like you have any use for it (not like we have any either :P)04:42
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Apollo^101thanks all. gtg04:43
soulriderbye!04:43
sayersGood night or have a good lunch or whatever04:43
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intelikey__bill__    dd if=/dev/sda count=1 | less      see if you can read from the device at all.04:44
Apollo^101thanke :)04:44
intelikeybill and a simple yes or no will suffice on that.04:44
billno04:44
sayersWith the time format how do I make it the Time format America uses?04:44
intelikeycheck sdb  same process bill04:45
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DJAnubishey04:45
DJAnubisone quick question04:45
billNo file or directory04:45
billso no04:45
intelikeysdc ?04:46
intelikeysame ?04:46
billnope04:46
intelikeysame ?04:46
DJAnubisdo I need to emerge or setup a GUI, or does kubuntu come with one when installed?04:46
billyeah, same04:46
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sayersDJAnubis: Nope no work at all04:47
DJAnubiswoah,04:47
DJAnubisI may have to use this then04:47
intelikeyok unplug it(the usb cable) and replug then     dmesg   and see if anything wierd is in the last two/three lines  bill04:47
sayersDJAnubis: For the basic install just the cd and a mouse, and eh... the ubuntu family strives for awesomeness and ease at the same time04:47
DJAnubisI've been trying to emerge Gnome on Gentoo for like...days04:47
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sayersGentoo is for people who like to stick dry ice in their computer to develop a new way of Cooling04:48
sayersThose are crazy people...04:48
DJAnubislol04:48
sayersVery smart crazy people04:48
DJAnubisI like the word gentoo though :P04:48
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DJAnubisanyways04:48
DJAnubisvoorhees?04:48
sayersKuwbootwo04:48
intelikeyDJAnubis  sudo apt-get install gentoo04:48
sayersthat is very cool04:48
DJAnubisintelikey...what?04:49
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billok, so it says unable to read partition table04:49
DJAnubisyeah, kubuntu sounds awesome04:49
crazy_buscan anyone tell me of software to make and print a invoice?04:49
billhmmm...its probably because I had to write a special partition table so the Palm would read it04:49
intelikeybill in the dmesg output ?04:49
billis there a way I can just wipe the card and start over?04:49
sayersbe right back04:49
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DJAnubisyeah, I'll go with this because I hate command-line04:49
billyeah: "sda: unable to read partition table"04:50
DJAnubisanyways, how long is a full-blown CD installation, like, all extras installed04:50
intelikeybill   yeah.   i wont recomend it but i will tell you how.    cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda04:50
DJAnubislike, an hour?04:50
billwell, it is basically my only option04:51
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billcuz it won't but on my palm04:51
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billso I'll just write the custom partition table again after I wipe it, then create a rom imae04:51
soulrider!paste04:51
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:51
intelikeybill if you do that you should be able to write to it with dd  but i make no promices04:51
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billhmmm04:52
geebAnyone think they can help a new guy with what may be a stupid question?04:52
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billthat doesn't work anyways....it says "No space left on device"04:52
intelikeyoh and it has to be done as root  bill04:52
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sayersWhere is a list of the most Awesome themes for KDe04:52
philphotohas the MP3 bug in Feisty been taken care of?04:52
sayersthis blue is blargish and purple and yes04:52
billlol, I forgot about that04:52
billlet me try it04:52
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inteliwaspis there a way to reset the timestamp for sudo?04:52
intelikeybill  to gain a root shell   sudo -i04:52
DJAnubisshouldn't it be in the desktop properties?04:53
billnope, still tells me there is no space on the device04:53
intelikeybill  sudo cat **  wont work.    it has to be done as root.04:53
DJAnubis(from what I remember from fedora with KDE"04:53
DJAnubisgod fedora was bloody slow04:53
billI know04:53
billI'm doing it as root04:53
billit still tells me the device has no space04:53
intelikeybill   and yes it  will end with no space left.   that's the close of the write.04:54
DJAnubishey sayers, is a full install from CD image like, an hour? more?04:54
intelikeybill   now try your dd command.04:54
philphoto20 m inutes usually04:54
sayersDJAnubis: I think it takes like 20 minutes I'd agree04:55
sayersNot including download time for the disk and assuming your on cable04:55
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geebI'm really new to this so I don't know what I'm doing but I just want to install firefox.  It's in my add remove programs but it's grayed out04:55
sayersI would say in 1:30 you could have your video card hooked up, some cool software installed, and listing to your music.04:55
sayersIt's as painless as your reading skills make it.04:56
intelikeybill   all the " no space left "  message is telling you is that  /dev/zero  contains more data than /dev/sda can hold.    and it should  /dev/zero will repete 00000000 for ever.04:56
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intelikeyi'm out for a while.    rounds.04:57
billbut it isn't telling me that way04:57
billit's saying error04:57
bill"cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda"04:57
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billoops04:57
abortd!envy04:57
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia904:57
billI hate how it I can't ctrl-c in konsole04:57
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philphotoanyone know what kind of utility will open either a .dbf or a .dbt file?04:57
billroot@Boys-Room-desktop:~# cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda04:57
billcat: write error: No space left on device04:57
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sayersKcontrol doesnt seem to appear in my Application Menu :O why not?04:58
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nickv111Hey guys. I'm having issues with playing media. Whenever I watch a movie in mplayer, for example, it's like it's perpetually paused. I can advance with the arrow keys, and see the frames, but nothing ever plays. The same thing happens when playing music in xmms and amaroK04:59
nickv111Also, no sound comes out of gaim04:59
philphotoneither will Kmail appear.04:59
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sayersnickv111: Well there is something I cant explain with the sound driver and some times things die while using sound, a long story short as of my knowledge you can only some times run more than one sound thing at once05:00
sayers:S05:00
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nickv111Oops. Sorry about that05:01
soulriderxorg killed himself :P05:01
nickv111Anyway, I don't understand why my media won't play. It was working just fine earlier. . .05:01
sayersnickv111: Well there is something I cant explain with the sound driver and some times things die while using sound, a long story short as of my knowledge you can only some times run more than one sound thing at once05:01
nickv111sayers: But nothing plays. Besides, doesn't ALSA handle that?05:01
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nickv111And when I open a video, it plays momentarily, and then the times for the audio and video stop05:02
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scubastevehey all05:03
DJAnubisam I going to be able to use any type of binary files?05:03
DJAnubisif so, what type?05:03
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DJAnubisI'm used to .rpm so, I don't want to download RPMs and not be able to install wine05:04
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mastermanxany one know how to install wine05:05
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DJAnubislol, just asked that05:05
eeanm!mp305:05
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sayersDJAnubis:  .deb and .bin I know of05:06
sayersDJAnubis: A LOT of things come in debian format or bin's so you wont be left out, plus there is a packet manager thing that has a lot of stuff already so you wont always have to go downloading somthing by keyboard05:07
DJAnubisdownloading by keyboard?05:08
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sayersDJAnubis: With all the commands like cd / and sh and sudo and stuff that can get agrivating over time05:09
DJAnubisOH05:11
DJAnubiswow05:11
DJAnubisyeah, I see05:11
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bronze_0_1gee, yeah. all those commands...05:11
DJAnubiswell, copy+paste for the win05:11
sayersNot if you have to do somthing of your knowledge.05:11
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sayersBut anyway Ubuntu is in my oppinion accutaly productive.05:12
BluesKajsayers , that's what adept and synaptic are for..ppl who would rather not use the CLI05:12
DJAnubiswell05:13
billwell05:13
DJAnubisit's time to install, cya later05:13
sayersBlueKaj: Some parts of linux require manual stuff. Like my fan problem I had. You cant click your way out of that05:13
billsince I still can't get this CF card formatted05:13
Sesshoumaruanybody know a good photoshop alternative05:13
DJAnubiserr05:13
sayersCya DJAnubis good luck, doubt you will need it tho, so easy :(05:13
billwhich means I can't fix my palm pilot05:13
DJAnubisfan problem?05:13
sayers:) ***05:13
sayersIts a Sony Vaio thing05:13
DJAnubiso05:13
DJAnubisthat's sony then05:13
sayersYes05:14
billI need a graphing calculator program for kubuntu05:14
billanyone know of one?05:14
sayersthey signed a contract with windows pretty much saying "WE WONT SUPPORT LINUX DAMN IT 'now where is my 20000 Grand'05:14
Sesshoumaruanyone know a good photoshop alternative05:14
billSesshoumaru: GIMP05:14
sayersGimp :)05:14
bill!GIMP05:15
ubotugimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.05:15
Sesshoumarui have gimp.. its the best?05:15
billlol05:15
sayersGimp is a pain to learn, takes a few hours of tinkering. But so is Photoshop05:15
mastermanxhow do u sitnlal wine05:15
billI know ppl on windows that prefer gimp over photoshop05:15
mastermanxnot working for me05:15
billso yeah, its pretty good05:15
sayersGive it a chance, remember when you first went in Photoshop, it took a long time to learn I bet05:15
Sesshoumarui can do gimp.. i just wanted to know if there were any better05:16
sayersSesshoumaru: Well its the best for what your probably gonna use it for05:16
mastermanxanyone05:16
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sayersFancy logos and stuff...05:17
mastermanxto intall wine05:17
billok, I either need a way of formatting my CF card, or I need a graphing calculator program05:17
eeanmpfft ain't this #kubuntu ?05:17
billanyone?05:17
eeanmSesshoumaru: check out Krita05:17
sayerseeanm: Yes it is :>05:17
xanithwhy does kaffeine play some wmv files and not others?05:17
eeanmKrita is gimp that doesn't look like crap05:17
billxanith: The others are probably protected with DRM.05:17
Sesshoumarui mostly remove watermarks and fix the quality of pictures..05:17
mastermanxi guess no one can help me05:18
mastermanxinstall wine05:18
mastermanxthen05:18
Sesshoumaruwhat is sitnal wine?05:18
sayersmastermanx: sudo apt-get install wine05:18
mastermanxinstall05:18
xanithbill, how do u get kaffeine to play those05:19
xanithbill, or can you?05:19
sayersgoogle ? Wiki? These things are much better than irc most of the time...05:19
Sesshoumarujust use synaptic package manager05:19
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mastermanxErr http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy/main wine 0.9.33~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-205:19
mastermanx  404 Not Found05:19
mastermanxFailed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.33~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-2_i386.deb  404 Not Found05:19
mastermanxE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?05:19
mastermanxmastermanx@mastermanx-desktop:~$ apt-get update05:19
mastermanxE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:20
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sayersmastermanx: it even tells you the error!05:20
sayers(13 Permission denied)05:20
mastermanxyeah05:20
mastermanxim new to this05:20
cpk1mastermanx: use sudo05:20
mastermanxi did05:20
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ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:20
sayersno you didnt05:20
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ubotuntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)05:20
sayerstype sudo apt-get update05:20
billxanith: I'm pretty sure you can't...to my knowledge anyways. If we could crack the DM protection, then it would be possible.05:21
bill*DRM05:21
mastermanxo ok05:21
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xanithso like what if wine emulated WMP?05:21
sayersmastermanx: there are doccuments that are like an hour's read that will make linux so easy .05:21
Re|ent|esslol05:22
Re|ent|ess!wine05:22
mastermanxok thier05:22
Re|ent|esshm05:22
Re|ent|ess!wine05:22
mastermanxi heard you can play wow with wine05:22
Re|ent|ess-_-05:22
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:22
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xanithmastermanx: i have actually played wow with wine05:22
Re|ent|essbot lag05:22
xanithmastermanx: it's true05:22
mastermanxreally05:22
mastermanxhow is it05:22
mastermanxcan u pm me05:22
Re|ent|essno05:22
sayersmastermanx: but mind you , linux isnt a game platform.05:22
Re|ent|ess!privite05:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about privite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:22
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xanithmastermanx: actually, sorry i can't. im about to go to bed.05:23
mastermanxso how did it work05:23
xanithmastermanx: for the most part it does a good job on my computer05:23
Re|ent|esshi os2mac05:23
mastermanxdid it work ok05:23
Re|ent|essbrb05:23
Re|ent|essrestarting in linux05:23
xanithmastermanx: just for the installation i think to do the updates i had to run it in windows 2000/NT mode..05:23
mastermanxdo you know how to install it cuz im nto sure i heard get wine and then05:23
mastermanxinstall wow05:23
sayersIf all you want to do on linux is like play games, eh... I guess it can :S05:23
xanithmastermanx: other than that, everything else was smooth05:23
sayersbut you would be playing a lot of Pengiun racer05:23
Sesshoumaruits not that linux is not a gaming platform,. most games are designed for windows05:24
sayersSesshoumaru: yeah true05:24
mastermanxwas it hard to install05:24
Tm_Tebotvine: ping05:24
mastermanxi installed wine right now what do i do now xanith05:24
sayersI play a tale in the desert. Played it on windows and now I play it on linux. But mostly I do that / Java / tink around05:24
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xanithmastermanx: i just loaded the cd and executed the setup file05:25
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xanithmastermanx: it installed fine, like i said the only thing you are gonna have to change is the compatibility mode to windows 2000/NT when it does the updates05:25
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mastermanxhow do you do that05:26
sayersSesshoumaru: I think linux will take over, now that vista sucks and ubuntu is becoming easier05:26
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mastermanxso frist i got to get into wine05:26
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Visitor_wonderful05:26
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mastermanxrun commmand05:26
mastermanxwine05:26
=== inteliwasp make not not to make Tm_T mad...
xanithmastermanx: you'll have to read the wine manual05:27
xanithmastermanx: i have to get up in 6 hours for work05:27
AmyRosesayers: It won't happen. People think Microsoft is the best05:27
mastermanxdan you cant tel me real quick05:27
xanithmastermanx: so i have to go to sleep05:27
Tm_Tinteliwasp: why not?05:27
inteliwasper "note not to make him mad05:27
sayersAmyRose: it wont take over but it will become more than 1% some day05:27
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AmyRosePeople even claim Bill Gates invented the Internet.05:27
Visitor_LMAO05:27
xanithmastermanx: good luck and sorry i can't be more help tonight05:27
Visitor_bill gates05:27
Visitor_ha05:27
AmyRoseThey think the guy is a genius.05:27
AmyRoseI'm serious.05:28
Visitor_LMAO05:28
sayersHe is a smart guy...05:28
Tm_TAmyRose: and that's also offtopic ;)05:28
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inteliwaspi bet they did not see pirates of silicon valley05:28
Visitor_what is the topic?05:28
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ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:28
AmyRoseVisitor_: Let's bring that into #kubuntu-offtopic05:28
sayersif he wasnt smart he wouldnt be the richest man in the world05:28
AmyRose!offtopic | sayers05:28
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Visitor_support huh05:29
Visitor_hmmm05:29
Visitor_sorry im REALLY new to this05:29
billno05:29
billmy friend invented the internet05:29
billcoded the whole thing in HTML and binary05:29
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Sesshoumaruyeah and I created the C language   :P05:30
AmyRoseVisitor_: /j #kubuntu-offtopic05:30
Visitor_amy05:31
Visitor_are u mocking me?05:31
Tm_TVisitor_: nope, he's not05:31
crazy_penguinGood morning! (it's 6.30 am here)05:31
Visitor_so lost05:31
SesshoumaruGood Night here05:31
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Tm_TVisitor_: he's only pointing you a place where you can talk more freely, if you wish05:31
Visitor_ahh05:32
AmyRoseVisitor_: I'm trying to help you join the channel where you can talk about this05:32
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Visitor_well my nephew gave me a copy of this---- he said here play around with it----05:32
Visitor_LoL    i dont know where to start05:33
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Visitor_so i found this05:33
DarkEDwhats a good app to use if i just want to resize a few pictures?05:33
Tm_TVisitor_: heh, no worries, it's a start :)05:33
DarkEDi guess i'm looking for something kinda like irfanview for windows05:33
Tm_TDarkED: Krita or Gimp05:33
Visitor_file:///usr/share/applications/kde/gwenview.desktop05:33
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DarkEDTm_T: thanks05:34
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AmyRoseDarkED: A good choice is Gwenview if you use KDE. It can resize pictures05:34
Visitor_;)05:34
danije,je05:34
daniHI ALL!!05:34
Tm_TAmyRose: hmm, I never used it to that, should try some day05:34
daniTHis is my very first time using IRC05:34
AmyRoseTm_T: I have, and it's convenient05:34
Tm_Tdani: congrats, new addiction gained ;)05:35
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danihey they say that you can download things over here... just by using commands... IS THAT RIGHT???05:35
daniIs everybody using Linux?05:35
pollyodani: are you using kubuntu?05:35
daniNo I don think so... -_-!05:35
Visitor_i am05:35
Tm_Tok, I'm heading to work so see you later kids ->05:35
daniOH YEAH I must be stupid I forgot I was on kubuntu channel05:36
Visitor_i need to get limewire-----   or gnutella to work05:36
DarkEDAmyRose: hey thanks05:36
daninop, actually I'm using Kubuntu 6.10...05:36
Visitor_also wondering if i could get a  program for my ipod05:36
AmyRoseYou're welcome, DarkED. I missed IrfanView too until Gwenview came out05:36
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daniI just migrated from the 64bit version, I had some problems with audio and Flash...05:37
daninow 32bit, full support!05:37
daniThe world is not prepared for the 64bit I think though...05:37
daniALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL05:37
daniJA,JA,JA,JA05:37
daniq lo quera esta gente no me entiende nada d nada05:37
voorhees86eu falo portugues05:37
AmyRose!es | dani05:38
danicon lo locazo q estoy!05:38
voorhees86cerve?05:38
daniEH VOCE!?05:38
Visitor_neat05:38
daniOI05:38
daniCOMO TAIS?05:38
voorhees86oii05:38
Visitor_i  got the newest gnutella     just not understanding how to replace the old one05:38
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voorhees86estais falando comigo?05:38
dani!es??? HEY DO u SPEAK IN C ???05:38
AmyRoseWhat the heck?05:38
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daniHey we have people all around the world!!!05:39
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AmyRoseyo hablo el castellano pero gente que necesita hablar en castellano necesitan usar #kubuntu-es05:39
daniI love this stuff05:39
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daniJA,JA,JA05:39
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DarkED:)05:39
DarkEDAmyRose: yeah, irfanview is by far my favorite image processing app05:39
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danioiga enserio!?05:39
daniq bien!!!05:39
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daniEWN TODAS!!!05:39
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daniY hablas en C++  TAMBIEN!!!05:39
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Visitor_WOW05:40
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dani!es !dani05:40
danibueno fue un OR05:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about es !dani - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:40
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AmyRoseVisitor_: Netsplit05:40
daniWTF!!!???05:40
SesshoumaruW00T!05:40
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Visitor_netsplit05:40
Visitor_?05:40
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Visitor_LoL05:41
Visitor_o0ok05:41
Sesshoumarusplitting of net05:41
daniwhat's that? A websearcher!?05:41
Visitor_again im a virgin at this05:41
daniCOME ON IS IT BETTER THAT GOOGLE???05:41
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daniWow05:41
danireally05:41
dani?05:41
danija,ja,ja05:41
danime troo05:41
daniBELIEVE!!!05:41
daniBELIEVE ME!05:41
AmyRoseVisitor_: The network lost sync, causing it to split up. That's what a netsplit is05:41
daniIT my first time as well05:41
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Visitor_ahh05:41
daniHey Amymine where R U from??05:42
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danisi hablas como yo, no creo q de Estados05:42
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supernixI am confused everytime I install anything using adept manager like phpmyadmin it gets the root user as the owner which means practically nobody can access the files05:42
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supernixlooks like they would fix that05:43
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daniAS THE OWNER OF WHAT?05:43
daniof the application?05:43
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supernixfiles like phpmyadmin05:43
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pbcustom98hi05:43
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daniWell you can allow root access to users, as well as edit the permissions manually05:43
Visitor_amyrose    thank you for your   ummm words of wisdom!   its been a learning experiance!  wish i had more time--  but gotta do the work thing at 9 am---     so again thank you  and hope to see u again05:44
daniU know, read, write, EXECUTE permissions05:44
danithat's why I love Linux05:44
DJAnubisho05:44
AmyRoseVisitor_: You'll see me again. Just remind me who you are if you want to talk to me again.05:44
daniNO .EXE05:44
DJAnubissayers: woah05:44
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Visitor_LoL    i will and thank you !05:44
AmyRoseand you're welcome Visitor_05:44
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supernixdani: that would not even be close to a fix for the situation05:44
Visitor_:p05:44
danibueno no entendi05:44
daniEh Mi amigo no Brasil!!!!05:45
daniON TA VOCE!!!????05:45
DJAnubisthis  like live  user thingg  i  sssss awesssssssssmmooooo05:45
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daniNO?05:45
daniwhy not... U can manually change permissions on a file!05:45
DJAnubisI am so bloody oout of it!05:45
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daniWhy it wouldn't??05:46
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duane_amy rose  -- its visitor_       i have a question -- in hopes u can help05:46
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danino prob U know, you're the expert I was just saying somethign I read before...05:47
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chemicalvampahh lol.. i accidently changed k3b so now it thinks my dvd writer has max write speed of 70... please tell me how to make it re-detect05:47
daniAmy ROse? Then visitor probably habla espaol tambien???05:47
danino?05:48
daniDamn05:48
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chemicalvampnevermind, just clicked refresh05:48
Sesshoumaruanybody know of a free video editor/producer05:48
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duane_hmmmm05:49
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Sesshoumarulike a alternative of pinnacle studio05:49
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Sesshoumaruand its free^ :)05:50
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daniI have to apologize this is a support chat... WOW! That's great05:51
daniI was using it as a chat05:51
daniI just figured out...05:51
_kiwi_identify05:51
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daniOK anyway, I entered here 'cause I wanted to know what's IRC for? I mean, is it like another chat room? What's the difference? Can U send commands to a server for downloads or something like that?05:52
AmyRosedani: uh...05:52
daniThis is my first time using IRC and is on Linux...05:52
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AmyRosedani: IRC is a real-time chat protocol05:53
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daniok05:53
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eeanmfreenode is used for open source projects05:53
AmyRosedani: It's much more powerful than Java- or Flash-based crap ;P05:53
sayersAmyRose: java is good :(05:53
eeanmdani: freenode is the irc network your on05:53
danije,je,je... What do U mean by powerful???05:53
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eeanmsayers: java-based chat?05:53
daniI like Java too...05:53
AmyRosesayers: I disagree. It's slow. I prefer IRC over Java05:53
sayersAmyRose: Java is .1 times slower than C++05:54
eeanmjava applet chat05:54
eeanmhave you even used java applet chat sayers :P05:54
AmyRosesayers: Well, if compiled in GCJ, you're probably right05:54
sayersApplets suck05:54
eeanmthats what AmyRose was talking about05:54
eeanmkeep up sayers ;)05:54
kubuntuonsteroidAmyRose:  i lub uz05:54
daniyeah I agree... Applets are too slow sometimes05:54
AmyRoseHuh?05:54
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eeanmwell not that, they just suck sometimes05:54
AmyRosekubuntuonsteroid: What the hell?05:54
eeanmcompared to an irc cloient05:54
kubuntuonsteroidi dreamed abiut you05:54
AmyRosekubuntuonsteroid: Please don't hit on me... o.o05:55
daniSomehow I llove the programming language tough05:55
NightBirdso I'm trying to install beryl, but it depends on libdbus-1-2, anyo05:55
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NightBirdne know how to fix that?05:55
danijust install the dependenci05:55
danie05:55
daniits a repository, isn't it?05:55
NightBirddani, no05:55
NightBirdthat's the problem05:55
daniok05:55
eeanm...there is a repo for it05:55
kubuntuonsteroidAmyRose:  i am not hitting on you i just love you05:55
eeanmstfu kubuntuonsteroid05:56
AmyRoseuh, I don't even know you, kubuntuonsteroid05:56
kubuntuonsteroidwhy cant i love people05:56
eeanmcause its creepy05:56
kubuntuonsteroidi love all humans05:56
AmyRosekubuntuonsteroid: It's freaky if I don't know who you are.05:56
kubuntuonsteroidso05:56
kubuntuonsteroidnot true05:56
kubuntuonsteroidwe are all the same05:56
eeanmso shut the fuck up05:56
NightBirder... ok, the repo I'm pulling beryl from doesn't have the library, and neither does the normal05:56
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daniI though that Ubuntu/Kubuntu automatically download the repos automatically05:56
kubuntuonsteroideeanm even you and me are the same person05:56
eeanmNightBird: you sure you have the right repo then?05:57
kubuntuonsteroideeanm i love you05:57
reli1Is there any option for a panel (QT, pref) other than kicker?05:57
kubuntuonsteroidreli1 i love you05:57
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daniWHERE RADICATES THE POWER OF THE IRC????05:57
chemicalvampkubuntuonsteroid, are you under the influence of extasy?05:57
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kubuntuonsteroidopen source is about love eeanm05:57
eeanmlol dani05:57
kubuntuonsteroidopensource=love05:57
daniPretty much the little and minusculus speed difference with Java?05:57
eeanmis everyone high tonight?05:57
AmyRosedani: Please don't use all caps05:58
daniI'M with Ganja!05:58
pollyoHello05:58
kubuntuonsteroidw./o love you guys wouldnt have linux05:58
daniReally!05:58
AmyRoseeeanm: No, I'm not05:58
chemicalvampno.. just kubuntuonsteroid05:58
daniand learning05:58
kubuntuonsteroidand yet you arent aware of it05:58
daniExcuse me05:58
NightBirdeeanm: I think so... let me try something05:58
kubuntuonsteroidi love you dani05:58
daniyeah for americans is like a cry...05:58
danino no no05:58
danihey backoff!05:58
kubuntuonsteroidi love you05:58
eeanmdani: IRC is 25 years old05:58
daniAmy pls tellme then, if possible..05:58
eeanmabout05:58
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eeanmwhy not google05:58
daniwhere is the power05:59
chemicalvamp!love05:59
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.05:59
kubuntuonsteroidi love you nixternal05:59
daniyeah you're right05:59
kubuntuonsteroidi love you ubotu05:59
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AmyRose@lart kubuntuonsteroid05:59
daniHere I go Wiki!!!05:59
daniTHNX FOR THE HELP!05:59
kubuntuonsteroidyw dani we help because we love you05:59
chemicalvamp!botsnack05:59
ubotuYum!05:59
daniJust looking for a site to download using IRC05:59
daniand the commands05:59
kubuntuonsteroidi love you chemicalvamp05:59
pbcustom98how do i add a GPG authentication using konsole?05:59
kubuntuonsteroidi love you pbcustom9805:59
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chemicalvampubot loves me, cuz im the only one who feeds him06:00
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danija,ja,ja,ja,ja06:00
daniit can't be06:00
eeanmpbcustom98: you mean for ssh authentication?06:00
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daniyou're not high! But yeah I think it's extasis06:00
NightBirdok, it's installing now06:00
AmyRoseuh, nixternal, don't you have to kick him too?06:00
danibye06:00
nixternalnope, just a quiet will work06:00
drew_I'm trying to use roadsend to compile a PHP script in Kubuntu FF, I'm getting an error about scintilla_new, does anyone know what package would contain this symbol?06:01
pbcustom98eeanm: no for beryl06:01
AmyRosehmm, on EsperNet, you have to kick them too, that's why I asked06:01
eeanmpbcustom98: usually they give the command right there...06:01
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pbcustom98eeanm: its giving me a broken pipe error. however i have downloaded the GPG key, and would like to add it06:02
reli1pbcustom98: sudo apt-key add06:02
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pbcustom98reli1: thanks, worked nicely :)06:03
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nixternalAshfire908: welcome Elmhurst :)06:04
pollyoAnyone here ever used the package that adds some activeX support to konqueror?06:04
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pollyoI found reference to it on kde page but could not find it in any downloadable package.06:04
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nixternalpollyo: I can't say that I have ever heard of it06:04
pollyoIt appears to be listed in a KDE news for 2002.06:04
pollyonixternal: Let me get the name.06:05
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pollyoKonqueror - Reaktivate Released06:05
pollyoReaktivate06:05
pollyohttp://www.konqueror.org/announcements/reaktivate.php06:06
pollyoI can't even find a website that says the package is dead or alive.06:06
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philphotohas the MP3 file bug been taken care of in any of the recent updates of feisty?06:08
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pollyoWhat is the mp3 bug?06:08
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nixternalpollyo: did you click on the test links? it seems it works06:09
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pollyonixternal: The links on that page weren't working the otherday.  Let me give it another try.06:10
pbcustom98anyone use aquamarine?06:10
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nixternalLivePics isn't working06:10
drew_I'm trying to use roadsend to compile a PHP script in Kubuntu FF, I'm getting an error about scintilla_new, does anyone know what package would contain this symbol?06:10
unix_infidel!fiesty06:10
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)06:10
DJAnubiswhaaa06:11
DJAnubisI'm backz06:11
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nixternalgrrr06:12
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nixternalthat was close06:13
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pbcustom98anyone use beryl ?06:13
nixternalyay!06:13
NightBirdI do06:13
NightBirdnow06:13
firecrotchpbcustom98: I do06:13
nickv111Hey. I recently put a floppy drive in my computer, but I can't tell if it's being recognized06:13
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pbcustom98you use aquamarine or emerald?06:14
NightBirdI'm using emerald06:14
DJAnubiswhy can't I click any links to download things in konquer06:14
nickv111I'm running Kubuntu 6.1006:14
pbcustom98im trying to set it up via terminal...but im getting errors saying the packages arent found...06:14
nickv111pbcustom98: In fact, I just installed Beryl06:14
NightBirdpbcustom98: libdbus-1-2?06:14
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nickv111Great. We should form a club06:15
NightBirdhttp://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Adding_Beryl_repository06:15
pbcustom98what is libdbus-1-2?06:15
NightBirdthat's what I used for instructions06:15
pbcustom98thats actually the guide im using hehe06:15
DJAnubiscan I fucking download things in Konqueror or not?06:16
nixternal!language > DJAnubis06:16
NightBirdDJAnubis: yes06:16
DJAnubisyeah yeah, language06:16
DJAnubiswhy can't I download then???06:16
NightBirdyou should be able to download things just fine using konqueror06:16
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DJAnubisI click on a filefront link and it does diddly squat06:16
nixternalDJAnubis: are you getting an error at all when you try?06:16
carutsufile:///home/carutsu/carutsu/.aMule/Incoming/Luis Miguel - O tu o ninguna.mp306:16
carutsufile:///home/carutsu/carutsu/.aMule/Incoming/Ricky Martin y Chambao- Tu Recuerdo.mp306:16
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carutsusorry06:17
carutsusorry06:17
carutsusorry06:17
nixternalone sorry is enough :)06:17
carutsunixternal i pasted in the wrong window, sorry06:17
DJAnubisnix, no06:17
pbcustom98i am still getting an error message saying that the package isnt found..06:17
nixternalcarutsu: however, you just shared with the world that you listen to Ricky Martin ;p06:17
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daniyes U can download with IRC... mIRC and INVISION are two applications that are used for IRC Downloads. Somehow I can't find how to do it in Linux...06:17
carutsunixternal: well yes only that one06:18
nixternalsure ;)06:18
carutsunixternal xD!06:18
carutsu!language > carutsu06:18
nixternalDJAnubis: I would say there is an issue with Filefront, because I can't download either06:18
carutsu!ares06:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:19
nixternalDJAnubis: do you have a "download key" for Filefront? I just got some warning that says I do no06:19
carutsuwhat program is ares-like in linux?06:19
DJAnubiscan someone give me steaminstall.exe then???06:19
firecrotchcarutsu: What is ares? What does it do?06:20
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DJAnubisausgamers looks promising06:20
toferradoI did install the j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin package using sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin command... how do I full uninstall it?06:20
nixternaldownloads fine with Firefox, but not with Konqi. DJAnubis you found a bug my friend, get to reporting :)06:20
carutsufirecrotch is a p2p client like aMule (or eMule) but a lot faster06:21
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carutsufirecrotch: it works if you want, say, 1 or 2 songs06:21
firecrotchcarutsu: You could try running it in Wine06:21
carutsufirecrotch: of course for pure backups porpuses, xD!!06:21
DJAnubisnix, do the honors, I'm on lunesta and being yelled at06:22
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DJAnubisplease report06:22
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carutsufirecrotch yep i'll do that i love the wine-tools included in feisty06:22
DJAnubisfirecrotch, that sounds like an infection06:22
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firecrotchDJAnubis: :-P06:22
thill2708is there really no valid kde-way of getting desktop effects a la the gnome ubuntu?06:22
nickv111firecrotch: You should get that checked out06:23
DJAnubisanyways, nixternal please report for me06:23
nixternalDJAnubis: I can do that. I will report it on LP and KDE06:23
firecrotchthill2708: Huh?  You mean beryl?06:23
thill2708firecrotch: well, sure, but that or compiz. Whatever's best supported06:23
DJAnubisthank you much06:23
DJAnubisI'll be on next week06:23
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firecrotch!beryl | thill270806:24
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ubotuthill2708: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:24
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haydendoes any one else have this probelem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2392288#post239228806:24
thill2708!compiz06:24
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:24
thill2708thanks, firecrotch06:25
firecrotchthill2708:  You're welcome :)06:25
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sayersNow an item in the taskbar stays in the taskbar on each Desktop in Beryl :*06:25
firecrotchthill2708: BTW, I recommend Beryl over compiz06:25
thill2708firecrotch; whyzat?06:26
sayersHow do I have unique items in the taskbar each desktop on Beryl06:26
thill2708I headr compiz was more stable06:26
firecrotchthill2708: Better configuration system06:26
hitmanWilly___speaking of beryl, does anyone know how to get the titlebars back after starting it?06:26
pollyoI was reading about the possibility of compiz and beryl joining forces.06:26
firecrotchthill2708: I could never get compiz to work06:26
firecrotchpollyo: They are indeed merging06:27
thill2708firecrotch; does beryl crash on you?06:27
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firecrotchthill2708: Not once06:27
thill2708well, it's being talked about06:27
thill2708firecrotch; sounds good, then06:27
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hitmanWilly___pollyo: slashdot's got a story up that they in fact are06:27
sayersI just wish my Taskbar items were unique rather than having one huge ass taskbar which is like 4 of the same desktops06:27
pollyofirecrotch: I hope we see even more impressive results from them working together.06:27
carutsuhey i have a werid behavior, my taskbar is in two rows and the icons in the system tray align very nicely but when i open too many the just break to one row and takes too much space@06:27
carutsucan i fix this?06:28
pollyohitmanWilly___: The story wasn't published the 1st was it?06:28
hitmanWilly___pollyo: nope, saw it today06:28
hitmanWilly___i think06:28
pollyoGoogle started its new Tisp service on the first of April.06:28
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hitmanWilly___pollyo: yes i know about google's and slashdot's april fools stuff06:29
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pollyo<grin>06:29
hitmanWilly___pollyo: and tisp was hillarious06:29
[pyro] how many more days untill the next version of kubuntu comes out?06:30
pollyo[pyro] : To many?  Not enough?06:30
thill2708pyro; I'm running feisty kubuntu now, it's totally fine for me06:30
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nonudai'm reconfiguring x server on hp vectra vl, right now i can't start x, i believe it was because the vga driver in the xorg.conf is not setup correctly, how do i enable x? btw hp website said the vga is instegrated s3 trio, i have choose s3 driver in reconfiguring x but it said "s3(0): no valid modes found"06:30
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pollyoBRB06:31
dwidmannthill2708: I've noticed only two annoying problems so far in Feisty :(06:31
pbcustom98can i send someone a /msg as a test?06:31
dwidmannpbcustom98: probably06:32
firecrotchpbcustom98: use ubotu :)06:32
thill2708dwidmann: wassat?06:32
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dwidmannI seem to have run into a bug in gwenview such that scaling is pathetically slow. Seems Konqueror is a bit slower also, but that's just an annoyance (particualarly when rendering the bookmarks toolbar I notice a hit)06:33
philphotoanyone running GIMP in Feisty?06:34
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firecrotchphilphoto:  yep06:35
philphotofirecrotch: does it work well?06:35
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philphotoany bugs?06:35
firecrotchphilphoto: I don't do much with it, but I haven't had any issues06:36
philphotovery cool.06:36
dwidmannphilphoto: I used it but just to resize and recompress an image. Not a very comprehensive test but it at least shows that it runs06:36
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philphotofirecrotch: funny that you use that nick.  i'm a redhead06:37
philphotodwidmann: thanks.  I'm going to be using it regularly for some intensive photo work.06:37
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ivan_!ru06:38
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:38
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darryl_ok this has been driving me nuts all night - usually I am good on google, but I can not for the life of me find out how to make xmms my default mp3 player.... can someone please help?06:41
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dwidmanndarryl_ you can probably do it from konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> file assocations->06:43
nixternaldarryl_: you can go into Konqueror, go to an MP3 file, right click it, select "Open With", then select "Other". In the dialog window, select XMMS and then select the "Remember application association of for this type of file06:43
nixternalor what dwidmann said :)06:43
hitmanWillyeither way works06:43
darryl_nixterna: I already tried that with no luck06:43
darryl_dwidmann: ok checking now06:43
darryl_wahoooo06:45
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darryl_I been looking on google forever for that06:45
sayerswhy does when I start up Kubuntu it runs what I ran last time I was on my computer?06:45
hitmanWillysayers: its a setting06:46
sayersWhere can I edit this setting?06:46
dwidmann:D06:46
Yorokobisayers, you probably logged out of KDE with those apps running.06:46
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darryl_thanks again dwidmann06:46
dwidmannYou're welcome06:46
sayershitmanWilly: How can I disable it?06:46
philphotoso, has feisty been fixed so we can use MP3's yet?06:46
darryl_I changed from Windoze to Linux today :) :)06:47
sayersdarryl_ +106:47
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philphotodarryl_:  WELCOME TO FREEDOM!06:47
hitmanWillysayers: go into system settings -> advanced ->session manager06:47
darryl_now my mp3's are working im a happy camper06:47
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philphotodarryl_: what version are you using?06:48
darryl_Kubuntu06:48
darryl_I think Edgy?06:48
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philphotoedgy 6.10?  earlier? or did you jump right in to Feisty 7.04?06:49
darryl_Linux darryl-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux06:49
darryl_that was my uname -a06:49
philphotoyeah, edgy06:49
darryl_I think its edgy06:49
dwidmannYep, that's edgy06:49
darryl_yea06:49
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philphotoit works well.  you'll like it, hopefully06:49
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darryl_Oh I do thats why I scraped windoze06:50
darryl_I feel more incontrol with this than Windoze06:50
philphotoI moved over about 10 days ago & I love it despite all my frustration at times.06:50
philphotototally.06:50
darryl_plus now I dont need to run that Norton crap06:50
darryl_my computer was soooooo slow06:50
darryl_now its fast06:50
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hitmanWillynorton ram sucker 300006:50
dwidmannHeck, I wouldn't be surprised if things like Norton or mcaffee contained malware themselves06:50
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darryl_and I run WIndows in Virtual machine just for Outlook - and I plan on changing that soon too06:51
philphotoI DO have to make a dual-boot drive with a windows partition on it to use one of my film scanners, but besides that, I'm not going back.06:51
darryl_yea norton sucks big resource user06:51
philphotonorton is totally malware.06:51
hitmanWillyi still use windows for poser, and thats about it06:51
philphotonorton + wondows = less than half of your ram available for real use.06:51
sayershitmanWilly: That is not there06:51
scubastevehow come everytime i restart my computer, my resolution gets fubar-ed06:51
darryl_hahahaha06:51
dwidmannI forget where that one funny thing was, stating how windows was not a virus, because virus's are actually designed better than windows, I should dig that up.06:52
darryl_yea im done with norton06:52
sayersFudged up beyond all repair :)06:52
hitmanWillysayers: oh wait, you probably are on edgy06:52
philphotoha ha ha06:52
sayershitmanWilly: Yes I am gonna wait on feisty06:52
hitmanWillysayers: open system settings06:52
philphotothe windows boot.ini loads like avirus & writes over anything in it path.06:52
dwidmannhttp://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-11506:52
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sayershitmanWilly: Like KControl?06:53
hitmanWillysayers: yeah06:53
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sayershitmanWilly: Okay what now?06:53
sayershitmanWilly: Found it thanks06:53
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hitmanWillysayers: kewl, harkening back to my edgy days06:54
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sayershitmanWilly: Is feisty stable enough yet?06:54
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hitmanWillysayers: i have yet to have any serious problems06:54
hitmanWillysayers: the actual production release comes out this month06:55
haydendoes anyone in here know how to get rid of those little red dots that show up on  all the icons06:55
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sayershitmanWilly: Yes, what features does it have?06:55
carutsufirecrotch: just for the record, Ares runs perfectly with wine and if you want a Linux-based solution you can instal Frostwire instead it can conect with near any p2p networs06:55
carutsu*network06:55
hitmanWillysayers: better wifi support, slightly improved look and feel, updated kernel, etc.06:56
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firecrotchcarutsu: Cool.  Make sure you add it to winehq's compatibility list if it's not already there06:56
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carutsusayers: i must tell you the system feels somehow faster, Konqueror takes >1 second to start (in this same machine it could take up to 3 secs)06:57
hitmanWillysayers: plus beryl and compiz are in the repos now, if you want to use that06:57
carutsusayers: i like it very much overall06:57
scubasteveKDE is pissing me off lol06:57
sayersIll do it ... sooner or later :)06:58
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dwidmannscubasteve: in what way?06:58
sayersI am going to go to bed now. Beryl was cool but I am not going to accutely use it. To used to static desktops :P06:58
carutsuscubasteve: if kde is too much for you you might want to give a try to GNOME ther 2.18 release is quite good actually, its slogan is "Simply beautifull" and i gotta admit Gnome is quite nice because it feels a lot more ordered06:59
haydenwhere do you get kubuntu fiesty?06:59
carutsu!feisty|hayden06:59
ubotuhayden: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)06:59
scubastevebasically, KDE doesnt save my settings at all06:59
carutsuscubasteve, i think is a problem with your system it saves my settings over here, ALL of them ;)07:00
dwidmannhayden: look at the channel topic07:00
scubastevewell it probably is, but i cant figure out how to save them :)07:00
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dwidmannscubasteve, the best way to set the resolution is in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file07:01
hitmanWillyscubasteve: that should be in kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Session Manager07:01
pollyoI installed Gnome and I think it looks sharp.07:02
hitmanWillydont really care for gnome07:02
scubastevewell, since i installed emerald, it is the only thing in settings.07:02
pollyoI'm trying to figure out why the text to speech comes and goes in chat.07:03
firecrotchHow can list all users with their UIDs?07:04
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terryscohi,all07:04
hitmanWillyfirecrotch: user management under system settings07:04
firecrotchhitmanWilly: Command line :)07:05
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haydenfiesty powerpc?07:05
terryscois there some download soft on kubuntu?07:05
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hitmanWillyfirecrotch: all that info is in /etc/passwd07:08
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hayden??fiesty powerpc???07:08
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firecrotchhayden: what about it?07:09
MilhousePunkRockAnyone experiencing problems with ICQ in Kopete currently?07:09
chipbuddydoes anyone know the command in vim to turn line wrapping off?07:09
haydendoes it exist?07:09
chipbuddyyeah, i was able to do it at work07:10
sayersSome times the terminal is  so much easier07:10
chipbuddybut i've forgotten07:10
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sayersI sure hope this is upgrading right07:10
chipbuddyah... lame... ok i got it07:10
firecrotchhayden: I don't see an ISO for it anywhere07:11
firecrotch!ppc07:11
ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port.07:11
akrushello everyone07:12
sayersHowdy07:12
akruscould someone tell me if it's possible to use Bluetooth Modem in Linux (mobile phone/Pocket PC)? :)07:12
nixternalchipbuddy: set wrapoff07:13
sayersYes it is07:13
nixternalchipbuddy: sorry07:13
nixternalchipbuddy: set nowrap07:13
chipbuddythanks nixternal07:13
nixternalno problem07:13
sayersakrus: if your phone supports it and you have the parts07:13
akrusphone supports it, under Windows it worked well :)07:14
akrusany guide on this? :)07:14
haydenso there won't be any official help for fiesty powerpc07:14
pollyoAren't they making Ubuntu for Wii?07:14
sayersThen it will work well most likely on Ubuntu07:14
pollyoDoesn't that use PPC?07:14
drew_I'm trying to use roadsend to compile a PHP script in Kubuntu FF, I'm getting an error about scintilla_new, does anyone know what package would contain this symbol?07:14
hitmanWillypollyo: a variant of it07:14
hitmanWillypollyo: i think07:15
sstchurUsing Kate, how can I replace all ; with ; [line-break]  ?07:15
MilhousePunkRockHEy pollyo... How's beryl advancing? ;-)07:15
sayersakrus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup I think this would work07:15
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I didn't do much with it today.07:15
firecrotchsstchur:  replace with ;/n  (I think that will work)07:15
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: But you got it working?07:15
sayersIs it possible that the feisty upgrade only contained 46 upgrades?07:16
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I have it installed.  Working is another issue. <grin>07:16
MilhousePunkRocksayers: Today, yes...07:16
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I do not beleive my current drivers will run it.07:16
sayersMilhousePunkRock: Still dont think it installed, how can I check?07:16
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I am not sure if I can install any other drivers for the NV TNT2 but I will check.07:16
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: I don't believe your current hardware will run it...07:17
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Either do I/07:17
MilhousePunkRocksayers: When did you upgrade?07:17
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Though I will be running it in a few weeks.07:17
sayersMilhousePunkRock: 5 secconds ago07:17
MilhousePunkRocksayers: For the first time?07:17
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: When the "Official" Feisty is out I will be putting it on my main computer.  I've been playing with it on this machine for a few weeks.07:17
MilhousePunkRocksayers: Use the dist-upgrade tool, like the channel topic says07:18
sayersMilhousePunkRock: never mind I got the upgrader to start, it had to upgrade before it could upgrade :)07:18
sstchurfirecrotch: it's literally putting "/n" in the file07:18
MilhousePunkRocksayers: Things you will notice: More kernels in the grub menu, brand new ones, and a slightly bigger usplash screen07:19
firecrotchsstchur: Hmm... I dunno then.  At least it's easy to change it back07:19
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I have to research one more program before putting it on the other computer.  That is a program that will allow me to see the Kubuntu drive from Windows.07:19
hitmanWillypollyo: samba07:19
sayersMilhousePunkRock: eww an hour or so download at 1:20 AM, ill do this today, but later :)07:19
sstchurtrue07:19
pollyohitmanWilly: From a dual boot system.07:19
pollyohitmanWilly: When I boot into windows I want to be able to access the Linux drive.07:20
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hitmanWillypollyo: oh07:20
hitmanWillypollyo: my bad07:20
pollyohitmanWilly: I think someone said there was a mount utility for windows.07:20
MilhousePunkRocksayers: You cannot abort the dist upgrader07:20
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hitmanWillypollyo: probably somewhere07:21
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: NTFS3G07:21
haydenhas anyone gotten that lockfile error in Amarok when trying to mount an iPod?07:21
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Isn't that for Linux to read NTFS?  I'm looking for Windows to read EXT2 or 3... I think it is called EXT07:21
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: At least that is what I use in Gentoo to access the XP drive07:21
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sstchurwhat does everyone (anyone) recommend as a good all purpose editor (primarily, javascript, html, css, php, etc...) ?  I've been using Kate, which I really like, but it seems to have some limitations07:22
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I use NTFS-3g on this machine to access my Windows XP partition.07:22
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Oh, that way... There is something too... Can't remember the nama though, but I can google that in no time07:22
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I just want to be able to access files both ways. So I do not have to keep rebooting just to get data files beteen the two OSes.07:23
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sonoftheclayrpollyo: ext2ifs will let you view ext2 in windows07:24
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Ext2-IFS.shtml07:24
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MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: :-P07:24
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pollyoThank you.07:24
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: You can even write on them, but be careful, nasty windows viruses could destroy your linux this way07:24
firecrotchsstchur:  I use kate, it does what I need it to do07:24
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Thanks for the warning.07:25
MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: Ext3 too, by the way07:25
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I should make a small partition for Windows --> Linux07:25
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Or do I have to mount all or nothing?07:25
sstchurfirecrotch: well... me to actually, except this replace line break thing...07:25
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: That's a good idea...07:25
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MilhousePunkRockpollyo: No, ext2ifs will have an entry in window's system settings, where you can choose which drives should appear in "my computer"07:26
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mehboobhi, can anyone tell how can I allow root to login , in kubuntu07:26
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Great.07:26
firecrotchsstchur: Just wondering... are you needing this because the file has windows linefeeds?07:27
sstchurfirecrotch: yeah.... and in the future it won't be a problem07:27
sstchurfirecrotch: still, it'd be nice to know how to resolve the issue for now07:27
MilhousePunkRockmehboob: What do you need root for, sudo does the job...07:28
firecrotchsstchur:  IIRC, there's an option that will let you view windows linefeeds as unix style linefeeds, and then save it with unix style07:28
haydenok, if I come back after this reboot than I upgraded to fiesty succesfully! if not, actually don't even think i won't "bad vibes"07:29
sstchurfirecrotch: yeah, I saw that -- but it didn't seem to show the line breaks07:29
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pollyoIts a small feature but I love it..07:29
pollyoHaving the ability to select new background images and have them autodownloaded and installed.07:30
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firecrotchsstchur: Silly me.... dos2unix   will do it for you07:30
firecrotch!dos2unix07:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:30
firecrotchWhich is conveniently NOT in the repos07:31
pollyoWhat are you attempting to convert a text file?07:31
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sstchurfirecrotch: where is that?07:32
mehboobi want to login into kde with the root account07:32
firecrotchsstchur: Install the package 'tofrodos'07:33
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pollyomehboob: Why is that?07:33
ubuntu#ubuntu+107:33
mehboobI cant write to protected directories , using kde07:33
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pollyomehboob: Can't you use something like gksu or something like that to load an application with root access to write such things??07:35
sstchurfirecrotch: and then, dos2unix myfile.txt ?07:35
pollyomehboob: Or :kdsu konqueror"07:35
firecrotchsstchur:  Yep07:35
mehboobwhat does kdsu do?07:35
firecrotch!kdesu | mehboob07:36
ubotumehboob: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo07:36
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pollyoCan GKSU in kde mess up permissions?07:36
pollyo!gksudo07:37
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 07:37
chemicalvampanybody here familiar with fiesty (i know fiesty is #ubuntu+1)07:37
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chemicalvamp i need help getting my wireless to work on a fresh install of fiesty (using my old edgy desktop cd now)07:37
sstchurfirecrotch: and if that doesn't work, does it mean that the windows/unix thing isn't actually the problem then?07:37
pollyochemicalvamp: I've been using it for about three weeks.  Can't say I know much about it overall though.07:38
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firecrotchsstchur:  Yep.  My guess is that that is the problem though.  Was it written on a windows machine?07:38
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: What's the problem?07:38
pollyochemicalvamp: That I couldn't help you with.07:38
pollyo72 updates today.... Crossing my finges.07:39
chemicalvampnetwork manager is not working, i dont have internet, unless i set it up myself...07:39
mehboobthanks: I think this will do07:39
pollyofingers even.07:39
firecrotchchemicalvamp: are you using wlassistant?  If so, use knetworkmanager07:39
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sstchurfirecrotch: yes07:39
firecrotchsstchur:  Then I'd put money on it being exactly that problem.07:40
mehboobso, has anyone been using kubuntu for some time07:40
chemicalvampfirecrotch, we're talkin fiesty.. i dont believe wlassistant is installed07:40
firecrotchchemicalvamp:  If you upgraded, I think it will be07:40
chemicalvampagain, i dont have internet unless i set the ip, gateway, dhcp, dns myself07:41
sstchurfirecrotch: so how can I get the formatting back?  dos2unix didn't seem to work07:41
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chemicalvampi cannot even find ANYthing that has anything to do with wireless07:41
firecrotchchemicalvamp:  sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager07:42
carutsuwhen i try to download something (a deb file) kate gets in the way!07:42
chemicalvampfirecrotch, does that require internet?07:43
firecrotchsstchur:  you could try using awk to do it07:43
firecrotchchemicalvamp:  Yes07:43
carutsui must click a link of a damn download.php so i cant use save link as, any clues07:43
chemicalvampagain, i dont have internet unless i set the ip, gateway, dhcp, dns myself07:43
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firecrotchchemicalvamp: then set it yourself :)07:43
chemicalvampyes :) im here to find out how07:44
firecrotch!info knetworkmanager07:44
ubotuknetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB07:44
firecrotchHrm... I have an idea07:45
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chemicalvampfirecrotch, all that does on my install is lets me enable/disable my wireless, does not detect networks, does not have any settings at all (pffft... User friendly KDE frontend)07:47
haydenhi all im back in what is supposedly fiesty, but how do i know that it really is?07:47
haydencause their don't seem to be any changes so far07:47
sstchurI give up07:48
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grego_Hi all, i have small problem, i've lost ability to choose and setup screensaver and my monitor isnt waking up anymore, i think i turned one service by mistake :/ which one it can be?07:48
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grego_turned of*07:48
underdog5004how can I check which version of a program I have installed? It's gotta be a command, cause I'm ssh'ing in...07:49
hayden407:49
carutsui dont know why Kate is making his way into opening a deb package! i already checked the file asosiations what else shouls i check?07:50
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underdog5004Anyone know how to enable encryption using rtorrent? I've included the line that says:encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,try_outgoing, but I just get an error saying that Variable "encryption" is not defined.07:55
chemicalvampis there ANYway at ALL to mount a hard drive while running off of a desktop cd?07:55
underdog5004chemicalvamp, yes07:55
underdog5004chemicalvamp, what filesystem is it?07:55
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chemicalvampex307:55
underdog5004chemicalvamp, ok, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdx /mnt/hdx07:56
grego_carutsu i have similar problem with tars.. i just switched to optimized firefox..07:56
underdog5004where the x is the letter/number combo07:56
chemicalvampits a fiesty install (that will not cofigure my wireless) and im runing edgy (cuz i can make it work)07:56
underdog5004I think that'll work07:56
chemicalvampunderdog5004, mount: mount point /mnt/hdx does not exist07:56
carutsugrego_ i really wanted to give konqueror a try i like it very much but this is annoying07:56
chemicalvampohh lol07:57
underdog5004chemicalvamp, hmmm, try sudo mkdir /mnt/hdx then try the mount again07:58
chemicalvampsudo mount -a dont work07:59
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underdog5004chemicalvamp, uh... mount -a?08:00
underdog5004chemicalvamp, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdx /mnt/hdx08:00
chemicalvampi heard sudo mount -a mounts everything, but yeah im trying08:01
underdog5004chemicalvamp,  I would recommend downloading a better liveCD for (data recovery?). www.damnsmalllinux.org08:01
[pyro] more /media/home | grep bed >> /media/work ; sleep08:01
underdog5004what are you trying to do?08:01
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grego_carutsu , i know... konqueror is fast08:03
chemicalvampOKAY... i did sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 then went to //mnt/hda1 in konkeror08:03
underdog5004chemicalvamp, what are you trying to do?08:03
underdog5004chemicalvamp, did it work?08:04
chemicalvampunderdog5004, yeah i did properties of the //mnt/hda1 and it shows 65.2 gigs of free space08:04
chemicalvampnow where would i put somehting so when i boot this, it will be on my desktop08:05
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underdog5004from...the liveCD?08:05
grego_anyone?  i've lost ability to choose and setup screensaver and my monitor isnt waking up properly anymore , i think i turned of one service by mistake :/ which one it can be?08:05
underdog5004chemicalvamp, I think that you can allow persistent links, but why?08:05
underdog5004why not just install the distro?08:05
chemicalvamphere? /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp08:05
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chemicalvampit IS installed, fiesty will not let me cofigure my wireless internet as-is.. so i have to get what i need on this desktop cd, and now i can save it to my hdd.. so i can install it on fiesty08:06
chemicalvampget it?08:07
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underdog5004Anyone know how to enable encryption using rtorrent? I've included the line that says:encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,try_outgoing, but I just get an error saying that Variable "encryption" is not defined.08:07
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chemicalvampunderdog5004, what is persistent links08:09
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underdog5004chemicalvamp, it's a persistent (after you reboot) link to a folder...just google around for persistent ubuntu livecd08:10
underdog5004that'll probably help08:10
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akrushello everyone once again :)08:13
chemicalvamperrrmm Access denied to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/08:13
Admiral_Chicagoi need a solution to rip CD data08:13
akrushow to unmount a disk drive when it's telling 'device busy'? :)08:13
akrusAdmiral_Chicago: music or plain data?08:14
Admiral_Chicagoplain data into an iso08:14
akrusAdmiral_Chicago: K3b? :)08:14
Admiral_Chicagonope08:14
akrusgenisoimage08:14
akrusin Konsole08:15
chemicalvampnow that i have my hda1 mounted, where can i put packages so i may install them after i boot the drive?08:15
akruschemicalvamp: ?08:16
Tm_Thi kids08:16
akruschemicalvamp: what do you mean?08:16
akrusTm_T: hm, are there any kids? o_O08:16
Tm_Tsure08:16
underdog5004Anyone know how to enable encryption using rtorrent? I've included the line that says:encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,try_outgoing, but I just get an error saying that Variable "encryption" is not defined.08:16
akrushmm08:16
akruskids -> using linux? o_O08:17
grego_i am 1108:17
Tm_Takrus: why not?08:17
akrusunderdog5004: which version? :)08:17
underdog5004lol, how do I check?08:17
underdog5004that was my first question, but it was ignored...bleagh08:17
akrusunderdog5004: rtorrent --version08:17
akrusyou wasn't ignored, just everyone here is mostly away from PC :)08:18
chemicalvampim running off of a desktop cd so i can install wireless packages (that fiesty does not have) and the only way i have internet is with edgy08:18
akrusTm_T: well, just anyway linux needs user's experience08:18
Tm_Takrus: just like any OS (:08:18
chemicalvampfiesty 7.04 is installed on my hard drive im on 6.10 desktop cd08:18
akrusTm_T: so it's a bit harder to understand when you're less than 14 :)08:18
Tm_Takrus: and young people learn fast08:18
akrusTm_T: hm... that's just maybe because i've started with windows08:18
underdog5004akrus, bad option...08:19
chemicalvamphda1 is mounted, but i cant seem to do anything with it08:19
akrusTm_T: it took about two months to forget about windows & understand linux is better :)08:19
Tm_Takrus: trust me, Linux is just as easy/hard as Windows :)08:19
akrusunderdog5004: lemme check :)08:19
chemicalvampread only*08:19
underdog5004rtorrent: Invalid/unknown option flag "--". See rtorrent -h for more information08:19
grego_yeah.. start under windows is bad experience..08:19
akrusTm_T: it's just another :)08:19
akrusoh08:19
akrususe -h then lol :)08:19
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grego_:D08:19
underdog5004akrus, I did...no version identifier08:19
akrusjust with every version windows gets worse and worse08:19
grego_lol08:19
akruswhereas Linux is getting better08:20
akrusWindows is only improving eye-candy08:20
Tm_Tbut that's enough ranting, back to support, shall we08:20
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chemicalvampakrus, very true..08:20
grego_no really08:20
grego_dont forget about beryl08:20
akrusberyl <3 :)08:20
MilhousePunkRockIn that respect I could tell a funny/sad story about Linux vs Windows, but that is slightly OT08:20
underdog5004akrus, windows is copying some of the tamer parts of beryl....08:21
akrusunderdog5004: really? o_O08:21
akrusright the source?08:21
underdog5004MilhousePunkRock, go for it08:21
akrusor just an idea?08:21
chemicalvampi dont have to do anything like running konquerer in kdesu or anything like that to access my drive do i?08:21
Tm_Takrus: underdog5004: enough about windows, stick in topic ;)08:21
underdog5004akrus, no, just the look08:21
underdog5004ok, sorry, Tm_T08:21
akrusTm_T: okay, windows sucks, that's all now :)08:22
Tm_Tthanks08:22
akrusso back to rtorrent08:22
underdog5004yes08:22
akrusTm_T: oh by the way08:22
Tm_Tyes?08:22
akrusTm_T: how to unmount a disk drive? xD08:22
chemicalvampbill gates is rich enough... support linux!08:22
akruseven with -f it's busy~08:22
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underdog5004yes, back to rtorrent08:22
MilhousePunkRockLast week in university, we had to do some presentations. Everyone had their usb drives, i had my laptop, so I distributed the results08:22
underdog5004akrus, sudo eject /dev/cdrom?08:22
akrusunderdog5004: not cdrom :)08:22
MilhousePunkRockOne of the usb drives had a physical write protection, and no matter what it was set to, i could not write on it08:23
akrusunderdog5004: last ntfs volume xD08:23
akrusoh yeah08:23
akrusunmounted08:23
underdog5004akrus, sudo eject /dev/hda08:23
akrusunderdog5004: lol :)08:23
MilhousePunkRock"you do not have permission to write to /media/USB DRIVE"08:23
underdog5004anyway...08:23
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akrussudo umount /dev/sda208:23
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grego_lol at ejecting hda ( i can imagine that)08:24
akrusunderdog5004: encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,prefer_plaintext08:24
akrusis it like this?08:24
Tm_Takrus: hmm, fuser /dev/sda208:24
underdog5004akrus, yep08:24
akrusTm_T: nvm, already unmounted :)08:24
underdog5004but I still get an error, unless I comment that line out, which defeats the purpose08:24
Tm_Takrus: fuser is command to find out what is using files etc08:24
Tm_Takrus: ah, good08:24
akrushm, thanks :)08:24
akrusfinally i have everything in ext308:25
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akrusnow editing fstab :308:25
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underdog5004akrus, lol, just when NTFS write support was supported!08:25
akrusit's supported08:25
akrusbut has problems with unicode08:25
akruswith ntfs-3g08:25
grego_yeah08:26
underdog5004I was talking about ntfs-3g...08:26
grego_it have full write support..08:26
underdog5004but anyway, back to _my_ problem...08:26
akrusok08:26
akrushow to checkout UUID?08:26
akrusof hdd08:26
akrusthere was a command...08:26
akruslikely lspci08:26
chemicalvampeveryone gave up on me?08:26
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underdog5004chemicalvamp, what you're trying to do is extremely weird and unnecessary08:27
grego_carrots are tasty..08:27
underdog5004chemicalvamp, just do a dualboot08:27
grego_****!08:27
chemicalvampunderdog5004, using a desktop cd (wich has the tools i need to set my internet) to get the tools i need for my hdd boot to get internet is unnecessary?08:28
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underdog5004I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstand...you want to downgrade your system to get support for your network card?08:29
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chemicalvampno i want to get upgrades my install cd was released without.. so i can get on my internet08:29
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Wireless CAN work in Feisty, it does here... You are best of to start from scratch though08:30
chemicalvampand do updates and all that fun stuff08:30
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: What CD are you using?08:30
chemicalvampmy fiesty install is brand-spankin new08:30
grego_chemicalvamp, but do you know which packages you need? why you don't just burn them?08:30
wolferinewhat is the main part (besides mount), needed to use nfs to share network drives?08:30
underdog5004chemicalvamp, oh, then you just need to burn the updates to a cd, then do a sudo apt-get update/upgrade from that...you'll need to edit your sources.list file08:30
chemicalvampcant get my wireless to ork though08:30
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: What encryption is used? SSID hidden?08:30
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, whaaa?08:31
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chemicalvampi have one cdrom drive... on laptop08:31
chemicalvampcant eject my desktop cd now can i? :)08:31
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Not done your homework, eh?08:31
chemicalvampim kinda new08:31
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chemicalvampim worried about getting the correct package, and missing dependancies08:32
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Let's assume that it really is YOUR wifi you are connecting to... As you seem to be connected right now in Edgy, you might want to head over to the configuration page of your wireless AP. Most likely that is 192.168.1.1 in your web browser08:33
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, yes that is my gateway08:33
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: So actually you should know about the encryption...08:34
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chemicalvampthat isnt my problem MilhousePunkRock.. iwconfig says i dont have a wireless card08:37
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chemicalvampon fiesty*08:37
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: What chipset does your card have?08:39
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chemicalvampwhats the command to check that again?08:40
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darryl_chemicalvamp: lspci08:42
darryl_should give you a bit more info08:42
wolferinenfs anyone?08:42
darryl_wolerine: what bout it?08:43
wolferinegive me the quick run down (before I mount)08:43
darryl_what is your question?08:43
krautmoin08:43
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wolferinewhat do I need to setup?08:45
darryl_it  may help if you actualy explain what you are trying to do08:45
wolferinei have ubuntu server on the other box08:46
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wolferinejust wanted to share between the two08:46
darryl_simply use SCP08:46
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darryl_you definatly do NOT need NFS for that08:46
darryl_just use SCP08:46
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darryl_especially on a server install08:46
_rootthere is a channel for hackers ???08:46
wolferinejust scp?08:47
darryl_yep here :p08:47
wolferinethats just a copy command08:47
darryl_wolferine: yes just use SCP08:47
MilhousePunkRock_root: want them to enter your machine as you seem to use your root account? ;-)08:47
darryl_wolferine: is that not what you want???? to copy files????08:47
underdog5004lol, _root is _so_ 1337!08:48
wolferineno08:48
wolferinethat is not what I want08:48
underdog5004good night all08:48
wolferinei said share, not copy08:48
_rootunderdog5004 i dont understand you !!!08:48
darryl_so you want to make  a "share folder"08:48
darryl_??08:48
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_roothow c i add new fonts to my system !?!??!08:49
chemicalvampdarryl_ did you see the paste?08:49
darryl_chemicalvamp: nope08:49
chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13631/08:50
wolferinei want to mount a folder on this machine, that is on my remote machine08:50
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wolferinethus, sharing it08:50
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darryl_wolferine: what i suggest use samba and smfbs08:50
darryl_very simple08:50
darryl_very stright forward08:50
darryl_and it will do what you want08:50
wolferinei dont want to use samba08:50
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wolferinei want to use nfs08:50
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darryl_wolferine: in my honest opinion nfs sucks08:51
wolferineok, sounds good08:52
darryl_its old, its not secure .... it sucks08:52
wolferinewhy is that exactly?08:52
darryl_there are so many better approaches08:52
wolferinewhy is it not secure?08:52
darryl_google :D08:52
wolferineedit /etc/hosts.deny08:52
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darryl_wolferine: why you so set on nfs?08:53
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darryl_there are so many better ways08:53
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wolferinei was asking you why its no good08:53
chemicalvampdarryl_, when i run iwconfig (on fiesty) no adapters have any Wireless Extensions08:53
wolferineyour changing the topic08:53
darryl_nah08:53
darryl_im just trying to show you a bettery way08:53
darryl_you dont have to take my advise08:54
wolferinei realize that08:54
wolferineand your avoiding the question08:54
wolferinethanks though08:54
darryl_chemicalvamp: do you have a wifi card installed?08:55
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darryl_wolferine: no prob good luck08:55
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chemicalvampimWireless Extension on woreless right now (using a desktop cd of edgy)08:55
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henrik_morning08:55
chemicalvamp-Wireless Extension paste glitch i have : /08:56
darryl_evening08:56
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darryl_chemicalvamp: i looked at your paste and i dont see any errors?????08:56
chemicalvampi pasted cuz i cant find my wireless card on it, somebody asked me what it was, and i thought if i needed to know it could help me find it08:58
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Mena http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13628/ some see this and i have a problem in conectting to the net with linux but i can with Xp although i use the same settings for both ...so plz see it if you can help08:58
holastickboyanyone play world of warcraft on linux?08:58
Menasome one (08:59
Mena*08:59
Mena!cadega08:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cadega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:59
Mena!cedega08:59
ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega08:59
wolferinemena, chill man08:59
darryl_Mena: your not getting an IP from the DHCP08:59
chemicalvamp!info cedega08:59
ubotuPackage cedega does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas08:59
Menadarryl_, and this way09:00
holastickboyi know, just wanted know about people's experience, like if they got banned09:00
Menadarryl_, i tried the LiveCd and it conected09:00
_rootcedega is a free (open source)package ?????????/09:00
Menaway>>Why*09:00
Menano i guess its not free09:01
darryl_Mena: clearly explain your question09:01
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Menai use the same setting for conectecting to the internet in linux and Xp09:01
darryl_and by "setting" you mean what exactly????09:02
Menadarryl_, but on linux i cant conect to the Internet09:02
MenaIp And DNS and Gateway09:02
pollyoMena: You could have a driver issue though.09:02
darryl_Mena: was your paste from ifconfig in Linux?09:02
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darryl_pollyo: good point09:03
Menadarryl_, no from this sudo dhclient09:03
Menaand route -n09:03
Menadarryl_, but it was working befor09:03
darryl_Mena: when your on the linux box and you ifconfig what do you see?09:03
darryl_also are you set STATIC or DHCP on the Linux box?09:03
darryl_Mena: becase likely your XP box is DHCP09:04
chemicalvampdarryl_, all i really need is a package (like wlassistant) and a how-to to copy it onto my hdd, my hdd IS mounted, but i get access denied when i try to copy somthing onto it09:04
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Menadarryl_, DHCP not static09:04
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Menadarryl_, and i tried this ifconfig i guess i get nothing09:04
darryl_Mena: in this case you are either configure your adapter wrong, or your missing driver09:04
Menadarryl_, not exist as i guess09:05
darryl_chemicalvamp: paste me your exact error09:05
_rootsosan is sharmota09:05
Menadarryl_, i didnt configure my adapter or any thing09:05
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darryl_Mena: you must get something....09:05
Menadarryl_, befor i had the ability to conect09:05
Menadarryl_, but when i change the ip i cant09:06
pollyoMena: Before in what sense?09:06
darryl_Mena: is your network card detcted?09:06
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Menayes09:06
darryl_Mena: how did you configure your network settings?09:06
Menapollyo, befor changing the IP09:07
Menadarryl_, for kcontrol center09:07
pollyoMena: When was it working and what changes did you make?09:07
Menafrom*09:07
darryl_Mena: I should ask, please describe how your computers connect09:07
Menajust the ip09:07
darryl_Mena: are you direct from the modem into the PC?09:07
Menawith cable09:07
Menayou mean the router09:08
chemicalvampdarryl_ it says i dont have write permission09:08
Menai am not the router09:08
pollyoMena: Are you connected directly to the cable modem or a router?09:08
darryl_chemicalvamp: do a ls -la on the share and paste me the results09:08
Menano from switch09:08
bartenewhen a package (like firefox) is frezed how to close it ????????09:08
darryl_Mena:: if  your direct you need to unplug the router first09:08
chemicalvampon the share?09:08
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darryl_chemicalvamp: on whatever is giving you the permission error09:09
Menabartene, ctrl+Esc09:09
pollyobartene: run xkill and click on the window for firefox.09:09
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Menadarryl_, not direct09:09
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darryl_Mena: paste your newtork settings for the card09:09
pollyochemicalvamp: What are you attempting to do?09:10
Menadarryl_, ? sorry didnt get you09:10
darryl_pollyo: I think he is tryign to do 2 things09:10
darryl_Mena: paste the settings you have for your network card09:10
darryl_so i can see them09:10
Menadarryl_, etho09:11
chemicalvampdarryl_, im in konqueror /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp tryed to make a new folder to store what i need and i get Access denied to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/New Folder09:11
darryl_chemicavamp: ls -la /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp09:11
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: If that isn't a typo, you are a missing a space there...09:12
Menadarryl_, you mean the IP and this Things09:12
darryl_Mena: YES everything!!!09:12
Menadarryl_, Why i use them on Xp and they works :)09:13
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Menaevery thiing09:13
darryl_Mena: in this case you force me to say use XP09:13
Menahmmm :(09:13
darryl_your not doing what i asked you to09:13
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chemicalvampdarryl_, what will that do?09:14
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darryl_chemicalvamp it will show me your permissions09:14
chemicalvampi did sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store (to put the files i need inside of) but i still dont have permission to copy stuff to it09:14
darryl_im betting you need a simple chmod09:15
darryl_bleh im going to bed - no one listening tonight :s09:15
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pollyochemicalvamp: Can't you simply mkdir /home/chemicalvamp/store09:15
soonIm trying to get a new bluetooth mouse running. When I start System settings / Bluetooth I get : DCOP error when calling services(0)09:15
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soonWhat does that mean?09:16
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chemicalvamppollyo look up at the last thing i said09:16
chemicalvampdarryl_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13632/09:16
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darryl_chemicalvamp: type whoami09:17
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rubertwhen i start x (startx) the kde desktop wll start automatic how to make X start non start kde ??????09:17
chemicalvampi am ubuntu09:17
darryl_your username is ubuntu?09:17
chemicalvampim running a desktop cd09:17
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darryl_what folder are you getting denied on?09:18
pollyochemicalvamp: I do not understand why you are using /mnt/hda1/....09:18
Tm_Trubert: one ? is enough09:18
chemicalvamp /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store09:18
darryl_chemicalvamp: i dont see that in your paste???09:18
chemicalvamppollyo because im running off of a desktop cd09:18
MilhousePunkRockHi Hobbsee!09:19
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darryl_oh09:19
pollyochemicalvamp: Ok.  Did you mount the directory from anyother machine?09:19
rubertwhat you mean one ??09:19
darryl_store???09:19
manu_hi09:19
chemicalvampmy recent fiest install does not have wireless internet configuration.. so i have no internet and no way to install the needed packages09:19
darryl_in this case sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu store09:19
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Menadarryl_They are (IP : 192.168.16.32 , subnet mask : 255.255.255.0 , Defult Gateway: 192.168.16.1Physical Address: 00-15-F2-6B-CB-2709:19
MenaIP Address: 192.168.16.3209:19
MenaSubnet Mask: 255.255.255.009:19
MenaDefault Gateway: 192.168.16.1 ,DNS Servers: 213.131.65.20, 213.131.66.24609:19
Mena )09:19
chemicalvamp /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store is my fiesty install09:19
manu_yesterday i wanted to shut down my system (kubuntu edgy), but then it stopped with the message "file system is not clean", i had to push the on/off button09:20
manu_is this bad?09:20
Hobbseehey MilhousePunkRock!09:20
manu_now  i've bootet the system and all seems to be normally09:20
Mirrakormanu_: well it doesn't make your filesystem cleaner ;) run fsck09:20
manu_what should i do?09:20
rubertTm_T what you mean one ??09:20
Menadarryl_, SO09:20
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darryl_Mena: was that from ifconfig?09:21
Menano09:21
manu_Mirrakor: what can be the reason? i had 2 times hard freezers and had to put my pc aout via button (because of a webcam)09:21
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chemicalvampMena, wow you ip is very similar to mine09:21
manu_Mirrakor: can i run fsck with my root filesystem, or have i to boot another linux09:21
Menaheheh ok :)09:21
pollyochemicalvamp: They are local network addresses.09:22
rubertwhen i start x (startx) the kde desktop wll start automatic how to make X start non start kde ??????09:22
Menadarryl_, So09:22
chemicalvampoh hehe, i was gonna say.. mines acomplete match, except one key is +609:23
Mirrakormanu_: that could be the reason - The thing is Linux doesn't write everything immediatly, it uses a harddisk cache, where it can buffers write proccesses and write them down, when it has the time and capacety. When you have a hard freeze not everything is writen to hdd, which makes it "unclean"09:23
pollyochemicalvamp: How did you mount /mnt/hda1/... ?09:23
Mirrakormanu_: the disks should be unmounted when you run fsck09:23
Mirrakorso, gotta go now (work :( ) cu later09:23
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pollyochemicalvamp: Could it be you mounted read onliny?09:23
chemicalvampsudo mkdir /mnt/hda109:23
pollyoonly.09:23
manu_Mirrakor: one minute plz09:23
Tm_Trubert: I mean don't do '?????'09:23
darryl_chemicalvamp: the question was how did you MOUNT09:23
chemicalvampsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda109:23
darryl_ok thats better09:24
rubertTm_T i have gnome and kde !!!!09:24
chemicalvampyeah its  2 part thing.. needed to do both09:24
manu_Mirrakor: so a unclean system is bad? because of the unwritten things? what could have been lost?09:24
darryl_chemicalvamp and your gettin access denied?09:24
Menadarryl_, i tried the ifconfig  on terminal but ist unkwon command09:24
Menaits*09:24
Tm_Trubert: yes, but don't write multiple question marks09:24
Tm_Trubert: one is enough :)09:25
darryl_Mena: you need to specify the full path09:25
rubertTm_T ok09:25
Tm_Trubert: thanks :)09:25
darryl_Mena: /sbin/ifconfig09:25
chemicalvampaccess denied, could not write to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store/text file09:25
Menaokay then09:25
manu_so a unclean system is bad? because of the unwritten things? what could have been lost?09:26
darryl_chemicalvamp: i need to see the permissions for the mount09:26
pollyochemicalvamp: Would it make a difference if you did sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/dha1 ext3 defaults 0 009:26
Menaok i will try BRB09:26
pollyowait... typo09:26
darryl_pollyo: his issue is permissions09:26
chemicalvamppollyo lol i dont know... would it? (im not being sarcastic eiter)09:26
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darryl_pollyo: if he had error mounting it would not give acccess denied09:26
darryl_his issue is permissions09:27
chemicalvampit is currently mounted09:27
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darryl_yes thats my point09:27
pollyodarryl_: Would it say if he only have read access?09:27
darryl_your issue is permissions09:27
pollyodarryl_: I thought it was a permssion problem read only...09:27
darryl_ppollyo: yea his mount is fine09:27
pollyodarryl_:Ok09:27
chemicalvampwhat if i did a sudo move09:27
darryl_he just has permssion issue now09:27
rubertTm_T you joke and tell me to do stupid things sure you dont know how to do this09:27
darryl_chemicalvamp: dont get off topic09:28
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darryl_you need to correct your permssions09:28
chemicalvampit may be a shortcut, but if you got an idea.. im down09:28
pollyodarryl_: Even with the sudo he has permissions?  If it was mounted read only sudo still would not allow him to create a directory....09:28
darryl_im still waiting to see the permissions on your mount09:28
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chemicalvampoh.. how do i get that for you?09:29
darryl_pollyo: im still wiating for his ls -la09:29
chemicalvampwas this it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13632/ i sent this before09:29
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darryl_yep and your question was on the "store" folder right?09:30
chemicalvampyes i had to do sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store to get that09:30
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chemicalvampmade *09:30
darryl_chemicalvamp: did you do the chown command I told you to??????09:31
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chemicalvampno i must have missed it09:31
darryl_well....09:31
darryl_you said your whoami is ubuntu correct?09:31
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chemicalvampyes09:31
darryl_so...........09:31
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darryl_sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu store09:32
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chemicalvampok i successfully made a text doc in store, but now will i be able to modifie /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store when i log into fiesty?09:33
chemicalvampor even read only09:33
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pollyoHow does that paste website work?09:34
pollyonevermind.  I see.09:35
darryl_chemicalvamp: so did it work what i told you?09:35
nonuda_in my xubuntu system, in desktop setting, theres no others resolution setting i can choose, i see only "default", why? and i believe the default resolution is 480x640, i want to change it into 800x60009:35
chemicalvampdarryl_ yes i can add files, but will i be able to use this folder when i run fiesty (username=chemicalvamp)09:36
darryl_one step at a time09:37
pollyononuda_: I noticed that my monitor was not recognized correctly and I was unable to select higher res screens.09:37
chemicalvampok then09:37
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darryl_before you could make NO files right???????????09:37
chemicalvampyes sir09:37
darryl_and now you can09:37
pollyononuda_: You might want to check your video card and monitor settings.09:37
chemicalvampyes09:37
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darryl_so the lesson here is PERMSISSON PERMSSIONS PERMISSIONS09:37
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darryl_in otherwords.........09:37
darryl_on your other installl......09:37
darryl_if your not ubuntu:ubuntu09:38
darryl_you will need to chmod to the user that you are to access the files09:38
darryl_or09:38
darryl_you need to make a ubuntu user on the other system09:38
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darryl_make sense???09:38
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chemicalvampin ubuntu:ubuntu (one is the user and the other is the computer correct?)09:39
darryl_no09:39
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darryl_user:group09:39
Menadarryl_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13635/09:39
chemicalvampk09:39
MenaHope this helps09:39
darryl_so you good now?09:39
chemicalvampnow i need a good wireless config package (wlassistant would work)09:40
Admiral_Chicagohow can I check if I am running Java SDK09:40
Admiral_Chicagoi may not be09:40
darryl_ok i solved one problem thats all you get from me for tonight09:40
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Menadarryl_, So09:41
darryl_Mena: So what????????????09:41
Menadarryl_, I give the pastebin what is wrong : :|09:42
nonuda_ok, i believe that would be the problem, but in xubuntu i cant find the setting for my vga and monitor09:42
Admiral_Chicagogot it nvm09:42
Menaheee??09:42
pollyononuda_: Click K and then System Settings09:42
darryl_Mena: i dont know what your question is09:43
Menai was user who was here befor09:43
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Menathe user*09:43
cptcarrothello09:43
Menasence a few minutes09:43
Menasince*09:43
pollyononuda_: Then look at Computer Administration and click Monitor and Display09:43
darryl_Mena: im doing about 30 things right now - be more specific09:43
Menacant conect to Internet with linux09:44
darryl_i see you pasted some network settings09:44
darryl_oh yea i remembe ryou now09:44
pollyononuda_: Then click hardware tab.09:44
darryl_your not getting an IP right?09:44
cptcarrotanyone here use pidentd?09:44
Menadarryl_, Thanks GOD09:44
Menayes09:44
Menaand this why ...then you told to check ifconfig09:45
Mename*(09:45
darryl_can you check your /etc/resolve.conf09:45
darryl_tell me what you see in there09:45
Menaehh i will reboot agian09:45
pollyodarryl_: How long have you been using linux?09:45
darryl_why?09:45
Menai am onXp09:45
darryl_you dont need to reboot09:45
darryl_oh09:45
cptcarroti am having trouble getting pidentd working - previously under mandriva and now under kubuntu09:45
darryl_pollyo: not long enuf hehehe09:45
pollyoMena: Was the internet working for you just now in XP?09:46
pollyoDid Mena already leave?09:46
darryl_pollyo: my guess is thats where he was talking to us from09:46
Menano all the times09:46
nonuda_thee no system setting, i'm using xubuntu, its xfce desktop environment, seem looks loke gnome09:46
pollyoGood point...09:46
darryl_pollyo: my bet is his resolv.conf09:46
Menayes o logged out then i came agian and here i am09:46
Menai*09:46
pollyoBut if Mena is in Ubuntu then how will he chat with us without a network?09:47
darryl_he is not pointed to his gateway09:47
Menaheeeeee i m XP09:47
chemicalvamp*same problem i have!09:47
darryl_BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO09:47
darryl_chemicalvamp:?????????????????? what??????????09:47
darryl_i just helped you fix your issue09:48
Menadarryl_, ok so you need the resolve.cnofig to fix the Gateway09:48
MenaYes09:48
Mena?09:48
MilhousePunkRockHow come I don't have any sound, the modules are loaded, kmixer is working and master is not muted in alsaconfig?09:48
darryl_Mena: show me what you ahve in there09:48
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MenaOkay BRB i will ogg out now :)09:48
Menalogg*09:48
chemicalvampdarryl_, the reason i have been doing all this permissions stuff is so i cant get the packages i need to set up my wireless connection to put in my dhcp, dns, and gateway09:48
Menawhat ever09:48
darryl_chemcialvamp: ok so you have the access now09:49
darryl_so google the rest??????????09:49
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cptcarrotcan anyone assist me in getting identd working?09:51
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darryl_if Mena dont get back soon im out for th enight09:52
darryl_late here09:52
darryl_4:00am09:52
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cptcarrotugh great, adept won't even run now09:52
pollyodarryl_: Yes it is late...09:53
pollyodarry_: Or should we be saying early?09:53
darryl_pollyo: same timezone?09:53
pollyodarryl_: Yes09:53
darryl_yea that too09:53
David_Hi, I have libmad0 installed but k3b doesn't work to decode mp3s. I have 7.04beta.09:54
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darryl_some times i get over generous and stay late to help on various channels where i can09:54
pollyodarryl_: I see you are very helpful.09:54
pollyodarryl_: I'm 3 weeks into Linux.09:54
darryl_i been here asking questions too09:54
darryl_i like this community09:54
pollyodarryl_: It is very friendly.09:55
darryl_thats why I like it09:55
MilhousePunkRockIMHO the community has been much better before edgy...09:55
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darryl_its also the reason this community does not need MicroCRAP :)09:55
chemicalvampanybody have a favorite wireless utility?09:55
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: You would not want to hear that, but I like Feisty's network manager a lot09:56
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: How have things changed?09:56
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Besides that: cli09:56
darryl_MillhousePunkRock: your nick is way too long :p09:56
pollyodarryl_: Are you typing out the entire name?09:57
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darryl_and yes im with pollyo: what changed so much?09:57
darryl_polllyo: yea im anit mouse09:57
neonlinuxhey all09:57
darryl_anti09:57
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: To me it seems there are more questions than answers here by now. And too many people just ask about beryl. maybe that scared away the regulars09:57
darryl_pollyo: how you doing it?09:57
MilhousePunkRockdarryl_: Ever heard of tab completion?09:57
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock ide love to use network manager but it doesnt wanna work09:57
pollyodarryl_: I'm spoiled with typing tab to autocomplete the name.  Works in Gaim...09:57
darryl_hahahah09:57
darryl_tab is too far for my finger LOL09:58
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: If things are wrong under the the hood, it wont work, yes...09:58
neonlinuxdoes anyone know when feisty will be released?? is there a date?09:58
Admiral_Chicagoneonlinux: April 19th most likely09:58
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: It does seem like alot of people are interested in Berly recently.09:58
darryl_MilhousePunkRock: that just means the community is growing09:58
Admiral_Chicagomaybe few days off though09:58
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock if the problem is "under the hood" why did i never have any problems with edgy?09:58
darryl_MilhousePunkRock: also - it depends what time of day / night the questions are being asked09:59
darryl_MilhousePunkRock: also depens if people are in the mood to answer the questions09:59
neonlinuxAdmiral_Chicago: cool.. thanks.. ill have the holidays to install it :) ... i hope in the release the problem im having will be fixed09:59
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Wonder if it has anything to do with all the beryl videos on YouTube.09:59
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: No offense, since this may includes you09:59
pollyoMilhousePunkRock:  No offense taken.09:59
MilhousePunkRockDamn, backspace and return are too close here...09:59
MilhousePunkRockI wasnt done typing09:59
darryl_even still10:00
darryl_worse case10:00
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: No offense, since this may include you as well, but I really dislike people that "try" linux because they want to check out beryl...10:00
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I am interested in Beryl... Though it was after I got just about everything I was really interested in working.10:00
Admiral_Chicagoneonlinux: i hope so too. gotta run now10:00
darryl_the support here is so much better than paid M$ support10:00
ffffuare there any viruses that will infect linux?10:00
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neonlinuxAdmiral_Chicago: ok.. thanks.. bye10:00
Admiral_Chicagoffffu: no10:01
darryl_ffffu: yes TONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS10:01
MilhousePunkRockffffu: AFAIK, no10:01
darryl_too many to imagine :p :p :p10:01
darryl_break out the Norton :P10:01
ffffuwhat about trojan scripts etc?10:01
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pollyoffffu: Don't run them as root.10:01
MilhousePunkRockThe only reason that AV programs for Linux exist is that Linux servers are often used in Windows networks...10:01
darryl_ffffu: not really bud10:01
neonlinuxffffu: only if you want them too... im not sure wine is compatible with virus's though... has anyone ever tried using wine on a virus?10:02
ffffuok cool.. so i'm on kuunbtu now..no need virus scanner?10:02
MilhousePunkRockneonlinux: lol, nice thought.. it would only damage wine though, i guess10:02
ffffuhaha10:02
MilhousePunkRockffffu: no10:02
darryl_ffffu: no correct10:02
darryl_you dont need10:02
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pollyoI read an article on a virus for linux.10:02
darryl_unless you allow a .sh to rm -rf * heheheheh10:02
pollyoThough they were discussing the debate over what a virus really was.10:03
ffffuone question..are there viruses or harmful scripts written to harm linux?10:03
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: That was probably a proof of concept...10:03
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Yes.10:03
darryl_ffffu: it was  prolly written my Microsoft :p10:03
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neonlinuxMilhousePunkRock: wine wont truly be a complete windows api implementation until it can run all windows features lol10:03
MilhousePunkRockffffu: They would hardly work if you do the right thing and keep root usage to the absolute minimum10:03
chemicalvampdoes anybody know of any other wireless apps other then wlassistant / networkmanager10:04
darryl_neonlinux: yea and now with vista crap out it will be even longer before "full" API implemntation10:04
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MilhousePunkRockneonlinux: Waiting for bluescreens or what "features" do you refer to?10:04
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: wifi radar10:04
ffffuso i have no problems surfing any websites, no fear of getting spyware or adware or whatever?10:04
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: You never told me about your encryption though, or the chipset10:04
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darryl_ffffu: correct to some extent10:05
darryl_dont make that your rule for life10:05
neonlinuxMilhousePunkRock: i was thinking that aside from bsod's those nice popups that lag my net connection are sooo helpful in bringing me relevent advertising information...10:05
darryl_but your safer than on M$ crap10:05
pollyoffffu: You may notice some difficulties with websites.10:05
cypher1how do i enable remote X tcp connections in KDE (Kubuntu)10:05
ffffuok just want to know if i'm safe from all harm10:05
ffffuhehe10:05
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darryl_ffffu: your NOT10:05
darryl_yoru as secure as you make yoruself10:06
pollyoffffu: From ALL harm?10:06
sh4rk0bonjour10:06
darryl_dont get over confident10:06
sh4rk0y a t il des franais here ??10:06
darryl_sh4rk0: comon sava???????????10:06
sh4rk0hello10:06
neonlinuxffffu: if you ever see "sudo rm -f /" anywhere... dont run it10:06
sh4rk0salut darryl10:06
pollyoI need protection from myself.  I wiped out a partition when I first went to make a dual boot system. <grin>10:06
sh4rk0tres bien merci et toi ?10:06
darryl_bien merci10:06
ffffui saw somebody logging in by ssh (i checked the auth.log) in as guest..and i checked the .bashhistory.. he's running some "fuck" something10:06
ffffui don't know what's he doing..after that i delete the guest account10:07
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock i beive i have a broadcom chipset10:07
darryl_ffffu: LOL LOL10:07
sh4rk0dit moi tu connais bien ce system d exploitation ? Je suis un news et je ne sais comment installer wine10:07
Tm_T!fr | sh4rk010:07
ubotush4rk0: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:07
darryl_sh4rk0: use vmware :)10:07
sh4rk0kubuntu10:08
chemicalvampvmware is sick looking10:08
Tm_Tsh4rk0: english here thanks10:08
darryl_vmware is nice10:08
chemicalvampim going to get it after i sort this stuff out10:08
sh4rk0ok, thanks10:08
pollyoDoes vmware run faster then kvm at this point?10:08
darryl_pollyo: i use it remote10:09
darryl_so  in otherwords I remote dekstop into it10:09
darryl_and its fast10:09
darryl_really fast10:09
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Were you smart enough to back up your /etc/network/interfaces before the upgrade?10:10
pollyoI was thinking about setting up a VM on my other machine when I put kubuntu on it.  I was looking at how you can run windows while you have kubuntu running.10:10
chemicalvampi could get a working one right now10:10
darryl_MilhousePunkRock: thats just evil :p10:10
darryl_pollyo: i have that running right now just for Outlook10:10
ffffu!virus10:11
ubotuA/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=2110:11
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pollyodarryl_: Are you using VMware or KVM?10:11
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darryl_pollyo: vmware10:11
darryl_works very well10:11
darryl_and i remote the winBLOWS install10:12
neonlinuxanyone had experience with ati and feisty?10:12
pollyodarryl_: I have to find out if kvm allows windows to see the hardware.10:12
darryl_and only for Outlook10:12
darryl_neonlinux: yes i did that earlier tonight10:12
pollyodarryl_: I want to find out if I will be able to connect external hardware that linux can not recognize and use it with windows running through virtualization.10:12
darryl_neonlinux: whats your issue?10:12
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darryl_pollyo: so far i been successful with that10:13
pollyodarryl_: Great10:13
Menadarryl_,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13641/10:13
darryl_Mena: took you long enough :p10:13
pollyoDell is saying that it will sell desktops with linux on them.10:13
Menadarryl_,  Sorry10:13
Mena:)10:13
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: What kind of hardware are you talking about?10:13
sh4rk0what has is useful wmware ?10:14
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I have a printer that prints great under windows but not so good from linux.10:14
neonlinuxdarryl: well... im running the alpha atm... herd 5.. it installs fine (has issues with wvdial.. but im not worried about that atm) and i can use it... but when i install the beta it hangs in initialising the gui10:14
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: That is the main thing that comes to mind.10:14
Menadarryl_, ohh i added the GateWay as DNs10:14
sh4rk0it is one server10:14
Menadarryl_, try to make it work10:14
sh4rk0?10:14
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I also want to be able to connect something that might come out that has no support for linux at first.10:14
Menadarryl_, but befor with out the Gate IP it wasnt working10:15
darryl_Mena: ofcourse not10:15
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: Why not just dual boot for that rare case?10:15
Menadarryl_, ok10:15
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I also have one or two applicatoins that I still use that are under windows.10:16
Menadarryl_, so is there soemthing wrong bec .... is there any file you want to open10:16
darryl_Mena: do this10:16
darryl_search local10:16
darryl_nameserver 192.168.16.110:16
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: I just want the option of not having to reboot unless I really need to do alot under windows.10:16
darryl_Mena: i assume your DNS is set by the gateway10:16
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Menadarryl_, i guess i remove it10:16
chemicalvampdarryl_, im gonna go try this out, hopefully it works.. thanks alot for helping10:16
Menadarryl_, its a bout more 10 hours tho10:17
Menaand i am tring10:17
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: If windows wasn't such a pain I would have the VM boot from the windows partition.  I am still reading to find out if it is possible to do that or not.10:17
Mena:)10:17
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darryl_most times when you cant connect your resolve.conf is to blame10:17
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Everything I have read said windows will see that as hardware changes and give you all types of difficulties.10:17
Menadarryl_, it wasnt withe just reolv.conf10:17
darryl_Mena: huh?10:18
Menai couldnt find with resolve.conf10:18
Menaresolv.conf*10:18
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Menanever mind10:18
Menadarryl_, after the command what to do10:18
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Menadarryl_, or you must first know the result10:19
darryl_Mena: i dont know what your asking agin10:19
darryl_again10:19
darryl_and i need to go to bed so make your question VERY clear10:19
Menadarryl_, he after doing this search local ameserver 192.168.16.110:20
Menaafter*10:20
ffffu!bliss10:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bliss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:20
Menadarryl_, Never mod ehhh i will try the command and give the result and i am on Xp10:20
Menadarryl_, mind*10:21
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MilhousePunkRockffffu: Ignorance is bliss, knowledge is power... You choose...10:21
darryl_Mena: i give you one more try10:21
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Menadarryl_, hee ??10:21
darryl_Mena: tell me CLEARLY what your issue is cuz i need to go to bed10:21
Menadarryl_, the problem with conecting on linux10:22
darryl_Mena: ask me a SPECIFIC CLEAR question or im out for the night10:22
Menaohhh GOD10:22
darryl_Mena: i know that already10:22
Menaok10:22
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ffffui choose power10:23
Menayou give this after i give the ersult from /etc/resolve.conf    search local nameserver 192.168.16.110:23
Menaresult*10:23
darryl_I need a beer or a pillow10:23
darryl_Mena: yes thats what I have10:23
Black_Catdarryl: why beer, not coffee? :)10:24
ffffudo mcafee write viruses?10:24
darryl_Back_Cat: coffe is for thos that have slept already10:24
darryl_errr10:24
darryl_Black_Cat:10:24
darryl_sorry bout that10:24
Menadarryl_, brb plz wait tell this plz ok or if you cant never mind :)10:24
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pollyoBlack_Cat: The guy wants to go to bed not stay up all night/day..10:25
Black_Catdarryl: about what? :))10:25
Menatell me now if you cant stay with this pro10:25
darryl_Mena: you need to reboot again??????10:25
Menayeeeeees10:25
MilhousePunkRockdarryl_: What IRC client do you use?10:25
darryl_Black_Cat:  bout the typo on your name10:25
MenaSo10:25
darryl_MilhousePunkRock: depends on the day hehe10:25
Black_Catpollyo: why drinking beer than... it will lead to toilet not to bed :)10:25
MilhousePunkRockright now10:25
pollyoMena: They have an application that lets you see your linux files from windows.10:26
Black_Catdarryl: nevermind, funny even :)10:26
Menaokay10:26
darryl_Black_Cat: LOL10:26
pollyomena: You will not have to keep rebooting to look at the config files.10:26
Menai have the apps and i mounted it10:26
Menaokay10:26
Menagive me the name10:26
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Menabut he is telling me to search local10:26
darryl_Mena: I would love to help you out bud - but your consant need to reboot is too much10:26
darryl_its 4:30 am for me here10:27
darryl_I help you as much as i can10:27
pollyoMena: What version of kubuntu are you working with?10:27
darryl_but your setup makes it very difficult10:27
Menaand its 10:28 here and i didnt sleep since 8:0 pm10:27
darryl_pollyo: your on more beer than me :p10:27
Menafiesty10:27
pollyodarryl_: I'm drinking warm milk right now. <grin>10:27
Menathere is no help on fiesty channel10:28
darryl_ekkkkkkkkkk10:28
pollyodarrl_: If this doesn't make me tired I'm going to have to take a sleeping pill.10:28
darryl_Mena: becase its ubuntu10:28
darryl_pollyo: im gonna need a wakeup pill soon hahaha10:28
pollyolol10:28
Menano they offer there also help for kubuntu but thre is no help10:28
MilhousePunkRockdarryl_: No... Besides the desktop enviroment all *untus are the same10:28
Menain any way10:28
darryl_MilhousePunkRock: yep yep10:29
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pollyoMena: Yes you have to go to #ubuntu+1 for feisty help10:29
Menano help there ehhh :(10:29
MenaIn any way Never mind derrrtl_10:29
pollyoMena: Did you say at one point your network connection was working under feisty?10:29
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MenaSOrry derryl_10:29
Menaits was working10:29
darryl_Mena: try again :P10:30
Menadarryl_10:30
MenaSorry :)10:30
darryl_there you go!10:30
pollyoMena: It was working and did you do any type of update to feisty?10:30
Black_Cat3rd time is a charm ;)10:30
darryl_hahaha10:30
Menano10:30
darryl_and i didnt even get my own name10:30
darryl_there is another darrly here10:30
darryl_go figure10:30
Menai just chnged the ip10:30
darryl_LOL cant even spell my own name10:31
pollyoMena: Your router assigned you a different IP address for your local network?10:31
Menai guess i made an update but after this i aksed the router if the Conection is working he told me not so10:31
Black_Catdarryl: go to sleep... go to sleep... ;)10:31
Menayes10:31
darryl_hahaha10:31
darryl_good plan10:31
MilhousePunkRockMena: Are you using DHCP or static IP?10:31
darryl_you guys been a blast10:31
MenaDHCP10:31
darryl_take care folks hope to see you all again soon!!!!10:32
pollyodarryl_: Go get some rest...10:32
MilhousePunkRockSleep well darryl_10:32
Menai really thanks you darryl_ For helpping me :)10:32
darryl_thanks :) :)10:32
pollyodarryl: I'm out of here in 15 mins as well.10:32
darryl_Mena: your welcome bud - good luck10:32
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darryl_cheers!!! im out folks!10:32
MenaTo you too10:32
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pollyoMena: When you are at your desktop in KDE does that little icon sit there and turn?10:33
MilhousePunkRockMena: So basically all you need to do in Feisty is click on the network manager icon and connect...10:33
Menayes10:33
pollyoMena: If you click on it then you can have it re-establish your IP information.10:33
pollyoMena: I have to do that from time to time.10:33
MenaMilhousePunkRock, i already enabled the conection10:33
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Menapollyo, hey i did many times  ;)10:34
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pollyoMena: It cycled through the information about getting IP address and what not?10:34
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Menapollyo, its checking the ip and the says device actvated10:35
Black_Catis it any way to prevent Korganizer from launching in tray when i start Kontact?10:35
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pollyoMena: When I right click it I can then click on wireless network and watch it go out and get an ipaddress... It cylces through a few steps.10:37
pollyoMena: I noticed that it doesn't alway automatically work when I boot up.10:37
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pollyoMena: Is it much different for a wired connection?10:38
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MilhousePunkRockpollyo: IIRC that can be set in the options though10:38
MilhousePunkRockMena: Go and check the options if they are set for DHCP10:38
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MenaMilhousePunkRock, yes its10:39
MenaMilhousePunkRock, i configure the ip my self10:40
MenaMilhousePunkRock, i am sure10:40
Menaits not static10:40
MilhousePunkRockMena: If you do that, it is NOT DHCP10:40
MenaMilhousePunkRock, he?10:40
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MenaMilhousePunkRock, ok and this called10:40
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MilhousePunkRockDHCP means that you get an IP assigned from your router10:40
MenaSorry i realy didnt sleep since yester day10:41
chemicalvampFAILED.. booo10:41
MenaMilhousePunkRock, ok10:41
MenaMilhousePunkRock, now what is the problem10:41
Menapollyo, no i dont think so10:41
MilhousePunkRockMena: Make up your mind: DHCP or configuring the IP yourself10:41
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ubuntu!fr10:42
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:42
MenaMilhousePunkRock, First the router gives the ip10:42
MilhousePunkRockMena: If you are on a DHCP network, setting an IP yourself won't work10:42
MenaMilhousePunkRock, then i changed it thats all10:42
Black_Cat!lamp10:42
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)10:42
MenaSo10:42
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Menaits DHCP right10:42
MilhousePunkRockMena: You cannot change the IP yourself on a DCHP network10:42
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Menain any way the main thing router give me an ip then i change mine according to it10:43
Menaok10:43
MilhousePunkRockMena: Of course you can, client-sided, but that disconnects you. Look where you are now. Turn DHCP back on and you will be online again10:43
chemicalvampdarryl_ the only package i installed that worked (no missing dependancies) was wlassistant, when i started it.. it never poped up. when i ran it with command line it said "no useable network devices"10:43
lukedoes anyone know of a channel for Baghira?10:43
MenaMilhousePunkRock, you mean to trun it from manual10:44
MenaMilhousePunkRock, to auto10:44
MenaMilhousePunkRock, or what10:44
MenaMilhousePunkRock, Sorry :(10:44
MilhousePunkRockMena: Yes10:44
Menaif i tried10:44
Menasorry10:44
Menai tried befor10:44
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Menanothing happened10:45
chemicalvampsudo ifconfig wlan0 up (failed it could not detect my card)10:45
MilhousePunkRockMena: All the other info about gateway and DNS and such is provided by DHCP10:45
pollyoMena: Configure Device TCP/IP Auto  DHCP and Activate when computer starts.10:45
Menapollyo, its makrked10:45
Menamarked*10:45
pollyoMena: Is this one computer?10:45
MenaMilhousePunkRock, yes10:45
pollyoMena: Or do you have two machines there?10:46
Menapollyo, no one10:46
MilhousePunkRockhow are you here then?10:46
Menapollyo, but i remeber my setting !10:46
Menaon Xp10:46
Menai hace To OS10:46
Menato>>>2 :)10:46
MenaSo10:46
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, can you make any sense of this?10:46
Menai was telling you all befor i am on Xp10:46
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Did you check if the card maybe got renamed?10:47
pollyochemicalvamp: Does your computer also have a wired port?10:47
chemicalvamppollyo be more specific10:47
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock it isnt beng shown in ifconfig at all10:47
Menaand i have already linux10:47
MilhousePunkRockMena: Go to network enviroment and all connections and tell me what you see in the lower right of that window when you hover over your ethernet card10:47
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pollyochemicalvamp: A standard network card (not wifi)10:47
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MilhousePunkRockpollyo, chemicalvamp: What we call "ethernet" card... ;-)10:48
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Thank you.10:48
MenaMilhousePunkRock, establisid10:48
MenaMilhousePunkRock, as i remeber10:48
Menafrom last time10:49
chemicalvamppollyo you think my wlan0 is being turned into eth0?10:49
MilhousePunkRockMena: In the lower left, sorry10:49
Menaand evert time10:49
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Menaok10:49
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: No10:49
Menaevery*10:49
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock then what could it be?10:49
MilhousePunkRockMena: There must be something about the IP.10:49
MenaMilhousePunkRock, and i also installed KNemo10:49
pollyochemicalvamp: I was thinking that if you are in need of additional packages you could connect using your eth0 for now until you get the packages you need to get the other card working.10:49
MenaMilhousePunkRock, which show me much inf10:49
MilhousePunkRockMena: I am referring to Windows right now10:49
MenaMilhousePunkRock,  i dont know but i tried the live CD with same setting and its working10:50
pollyochemicalvamp: I did that on another computer my wireless card would not work so I connected with the wired eth0.10:50
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: pollyo has a good point there10:50
Menaso maybe its from the Fiesty its self10:50
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chemicalvamppollyo yeah i already thought of that, i just thought i could get them here10:51
MilhousePunkRockMena: If you messed with the settings, it sure won't work. Boot back into Feisty and turn DHCP back on!10:51
pollyochemicalvamp: I've been on for a few hours tonight and it looks like it has turned into a bigger project for you.10:51
pollyochemicalvamp: I would suggest at this point going with the eth0 for now if you have the connections close.10:52
chemicalvamppollyo if you only knew... lol10:52
pollyochemicalvamp: Just an idea. <grin>10:52
MenaMilhousePunkRock, this is what i did on the LiveCd i just turn it to manual and i add the inf like ip Gateway Dns, .....etc and then the conection worked ...ok           those are the saem i did on fiesty10:52
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: If you can wire up your laptop, do so. Maybe something did not get installed properly... You could as well chroot into Feisty from a Live CD10:52
pollyoMena: Do you have a live CD"?10:52
MenaYEs10:52
pollyoMena: Boot with your Live CD and see if you can get here.10:52
chemicalvamppollyo but i dont lol its campus internet10:53
MilhousePunkRockMena: YOU DO NOT NEED TO ENTER ANYTHING THERE WHEN YOU USE DHCP!!!!!!!10:53
pollyoMena: We can see if it is Feisty or your setup.10:53
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, unless your stealin it right?10:53
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: So there for sure is some kind of encryption or authentification10:53
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Menapollyo, so if used the LiveCd i will not nedd to restart to use Fiesty bec the one i have its kubuntu10:54
Menai mean no more restarts10:54
Mena!!!!!10:54
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Menaedgy10:54
Menaedgy*10:54
pollyoMena: The liveCD what version is that?10:54
Menaedgy10:54
pollyoOh... Your live CD is edgy,,10:54
pollyoYou updated to feisty and it stopped?10:55
chemicalvampMena are you trying to get your wireless to work on edgy?10:55
MenaMilhousePunkRock, ok i will try your point again and we will see10:55
Menano fiesty10:55
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: No, he is trying a wired network10:55
chemicalvampoh10:55
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MenaBRB and here i am leaving the room10:55
Menaok10:55
pollyoMena: Are you saying that you initially installed the LiveCD of Edgy and then after you upgraded to Feisty it stopped working?10:55
Menapollyo, no10:56
Menapollyo, i normaly upgraded to fiesty10:56
pollyoMena: How do you come to have the Edgy liveCD and Feisty on your system?10:56
MilhousePunkRockMena: Boot into your installed Feisty and enable DHCP10:56
Menapollyo, and every thing wa s fine10:56
MenaMilhousePunkRock, ok10:56
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pollyoMena: I see.  So you upgraded to Feisty and it was working for quite some time?  Did you reboot after you upgraded to feisty and the network was working?10:57
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: What about chrooting into your feisty now10:57
MenaMilhousePunkRock, ohh by the way i installed guarddog but i didnt change any thing and i remove it but after this the conection was working as i remeber so ...no no its not the reason10:57
chemicalvampwhen i went from windows to desktop cd to try it. wlassistant wouldnt auto connect to my network, so i had to go into windows and write down my IP,subnet,gateway,dhcp,dns and manualy enter it into wlassistant, maybe something similar would help you mena10:57
Menapollyo, yes10:57
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, explain?10:57
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: No, he is using DHCP, but he changed stuff there. I believe his problem is hand mase10:58
MilhousePunkRockmade*10:58
Menachemicalvamp, i already did10:58
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: You already created a folder and mounted /dev/hda1 to it, IIRC, yes?10:58
MenaMilhousePunkRock, okay Brb10:58
chemicalvampi c.. maybe we're in the same boat mena10:58
Menaany more thing10:58
Menathings*10:59
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock yes10:59
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MilhousePunkRockMena: Reactivate DHCP and and leave everything as is, that should be it10:59
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pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Is there a there a dpkg reconfig to reset network settings?10:59
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: To the original?11:00
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, are you saying i could try upgrading my fiesty install using this desktop cd? o.011:00
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: So basically now you would open a console and chroot into your installed feisty11:00
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Yes11:00
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, i like that idea11:00
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock continue :)11:00
MilhousePunkRockBut I need some assistance from a more experienced user to achieve a clean chroot11:00
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: I did that when my initial update to Feisty failed, or rather I made it fail11:01
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock what does it involve me doing? and is there like a wiki for it or something?11:01
MilhousePunkRockI think you would have to mount /dev and /proc too, but I am not really sure.. So I would want one of the gurus to step in here11:02
chemicalvampdo we have some gurus?11:02
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Well, basically it's just one command, but I am sure the way I did it is not 100% proper...11:02
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Hobbsee!chroot11:03
ubotuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box11:03
chemicalvampstdin is kinda like a guru :) HI!11:03
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock are we doing a fiesty or edgy chroot?11:04
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Good question, I would say Feisty, as you CHange the ROOT from edgy to feisty11:05
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Thanks, but I am unsure if we need that debootstrap thing11:05
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock woah, wich one.. i run amd64, heres the link http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/11:06
Black_Cataren't there wmv/asf codecs for kubuntu?11:06
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: you do11:06
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: I succeeded without that, but as I said, I am pretty sure that was kinda unclean11:07
Hobbseechemicalvamp: are you just trying to upgrade to feisty?11:07
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: He is trying to get his wireless back up in Feisty, from an Edgy LiveCD.11:07
Hobbseechemicalvamp: you can test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade11:07
Hobbseeahh11:07
Hobbseehang on a sec then11:07
Hobbseehow do you plan to get the wireless back up?11:07
chemicalvampHobbsee nope, i got fiesty, trying to get it upgraded (hoping it will fix my internet) im running live cd of edgy11:08
chemicalvamphttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade BLOWS! it fubared my last install11:08
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: For now, chroot into Feisty and checking if there is a update missing11:08
Hobbseechemicalvamp: run "sudo chroot /mnt/feisty su"11:08
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chemicalvampHobbsee do i need to install the package on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/?11:09
Hobbseechemicalvamp: no11:09
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Like I said... :-D11:09
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: heh.  i didnt understand what you were trying to do11:09
chemicalvampchroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/feisty: No such file or directory11:09
Hobbseebut msot people dont need chroots, in normal situations11:09
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: OK, that is probably not even there yet11:10
Hobbseechemicalvamp: of course not.  wherever you've mounted the feisty partition.11:10
MilhousePunkRockUnmount the first mount again11:10
chemicalvampmy hda1 is mounted to /mnt/hda111:10
Hobbseethen use /mnt/hda111:10
MilhousePunkRockfair enough, just replace that11:10
Hobbseeinstead of /mnt/feisty11:10
ravanare kde packages in kubuntu compiled --without-arts ?11:10
chemicalvampso sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su?11:10
Hobbseeravan: dont think so, why?11:10
MilhousePunkRockravan: Unlikely11:11
Hobbseechemicalvamp: yes11:11
Hobbseeyou'll probably have to install the package "chroot" first11:11
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: No, edgy's live CD has that11:11
chemicalvampHobbsee done11:11
chemicalvamproot@ubuntu:/#11:11
Hobbseechemicalvamp: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade11:11
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: You are inside your installed Feisty now in the Konsole window11:11
Hobbseeie, execute update as normal11:12
ravanHobbsee: i wanted to thinking of shifting to kubuntu and don't like using arts as alsa can server the purpose11:12
chemicalvampahh thats pimp11:12
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Does that mean I can leave now? ;-)11:12
natsume_i dont see any different between fiesty and dapper11:12
natsume_it still same,11:12
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: no.  :P11:12
chemicalvampHobbsee do i need to substitute anything? or exactly like you said?11:12
MilhousePunkRockravan: Shift from where? Sounds like you use a meta distro now?!?! You usually don't compile stuff yourself in Kubuntu11:12
Hobbseenatsume_: it's not.  you've probably got your own config still there11:12
Hobbseechemicalvamp: you dont need to substitute11:13
natsume_actually what is the different11:13
chemicalvampfailed, want me to !paste it?11:13
MilhousePunkRocknatsume_: Really? Kernel 5 steps newer, KDE newer, slighty different look, upstart instead of init11:13
natsume_ohh ya11:13
Hobbseechemicalvamp: yes, pastebin please11:14
natsume_hahaha did notice it coz i'm just open my lappie then leave it11:14
natsume_after a while come back11:14
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chemicalvampHobbsee its biiig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13643/11:15
MilhousePunkRocknatsume_: You will need to reboot though, kernels cant be changed in a running system yet11:15
natsume_MilhousePunkRock:11:15
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natsume_i already upgrade to fiesty last 2 week ago11:15
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Yet...Is that something they are working on?11:15
MenaMilhousePunkRock,11:16
natsume_natsume@natsume:~$ uname -r11:16
natsume_2.6.20-13-38611:16
MilhousePunkRockpollyo: From what I heard, yes11:16
pollyoMilhousePunkRock: Great.11:16
MilhousePunkRocknatsume_: That sounds like feisty to me11:16
chemicalvampHobbsee do i have to enable universe or multiverse for this? i havent run adept on the live cd this session11:16
MenaMilhousePunkRock,i swithced to it and it chosse's the right Ip11:16
MilhousePunkRockMena: WB. Did not work, I assume11:16
MenaMilhousePunkRock, yes11:16
Menadidnt11:16
Mena:( :( :( :( :( :(11:16
Hobbseechemicalvamp: no.  and you're using apt-get to update, not adept11:17
MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: Maybe he needs to copy his resolv.conf over to the other enviroment?11:17
MenaMilhousePunkRock, ? what Can i Do mooooooooooooore :) ehehheheh ?11:18
MilhousePunkRockMena: I am out of knowledge for now, sorry11:18
HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: it'll still be using all the edgy live cd configs to connect to the internet.  shouldnt be needed11:18
Menaok11:18
Menano prob11:18
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MenaThanks for you help :)11:18
chemicalvampMena wish i could help, havent had that issue... yet11:19
natsume_seriously11:19
Menachemicalvamp, ok no pro :)11:19
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natsume_nothing different between fiesty and dapper (noob say) hehehehe11:19
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natsume_the kde may be had a changes, but lil bit11:20
MilhousePunkRocknatsume_: That's because if you customized the look of KDE, it won't touch it. There are many changes "under the hood"11:20
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Try to ping something in that chroot konsole... like google.com11:20
chemicalvampping: unknown host www.google.com11:21
pollyocan you boot a VM from a partition in QEMU?11:21
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chemicalvamproot@ubuntu:/# ifconfig11:21
chemicalvampWarning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.11:22
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Menapollyo, Thanks For help chemicalvamp, thanks for tring to help me thanks all )11:22
Mena:)11:22
chemicalvamp(wanted to see if my wlan0 was in there)11:22
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: That's what I meant with "unclean". I think you would have to mount /proc and /dev properly too11:22
Hobbseepollyo: ask in #qemu11:23
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chemicalvampHobbsee do you know how to do what MilhousePunkRock is proposing?11:23
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Hobbseechemicalvamp: not offhand, no, sorry11:24
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Like suggested here, but no guarantees: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade11:25
chemicalvampsudo chroot /mnt/hda1/proc su wouldnt work for proc?11:25
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Leave the chroot again: "exit"11:26
MilhousePunkRockand mount the three folders like they say on the dist upgrade instruction11:26
chemicalvampu mean close the cli?11:26
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: No, type "exit"11:26
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chemicalvampmkay so i need to install kubuntu-desktop... the instructions on the bottom right?11:27
MilhousePunkRockyeah, well, almost, just the three mount command, chemicalvamp11:28
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chemicalvampJUST the mount commands?11:28
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Yes, according to your mount point, of course11:29
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natsume_*sigh* i'm hate my teeth,11:31
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chemicalvampubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t none -o bind /tmp edgy/tmp ......mount: mount point edgy/tmp does not exist11:31
chemicalvampi added the .......11:31
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Didnt you say you mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1?11:32
chemicalvampyes11:32
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MilhousePunkRockso it would go to /mnt/hda1/tmp and /mnt/hda1/dev and /mnt/hda1/proc11:32
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chemicalvampshow me an example.. mount -t none -o bind /tmp edgy/tmp11:33
chemicalvampreplace edgy?11:33
MilhousePunkRockmount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/hda1/tmp11:34
chemicalvampdone11:35
MilhousePunkRockfor all three directories?11:35
chemicalvampyup11:35
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pollyoIf I knew the boot from partition worked in qemu then I would have a neat idea.  You could have started a VM inside Edgy and have it boot from your harddrive it would then emulate a standard eth0 and you could update from within Feisty itself.11:35
chemicalvamppollyo lol are you trying to confuse me?11:36
pollyolol11:36
MilhousePunkRock /ignore pollyo11:36
MilhousePunkRock;-)11:36
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, now what? apt-get?11:36
pollyo<grin>11:36
chemicalvamplol thats evil11:36
MilhousePunkRockchrooted again?11:36
chemicalvamplemme find the command again11:37
MilhousePunkRockif not: sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su11:37
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chemicalvampnow the apt-get command?11:37
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Yes11:37
lotusleafI followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?11:38
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chemicalvampapt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade11:38
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Yes11:38
chemicalvampdidnt work11:38
MilhousePunkRocksame resolve issue?11:38
chemicalvampyeah11:38
MilhousePunkRockhmm11:39
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Let me try something11:39
ffffuwhat's the problem11:40
chemicalvamphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13643/11:40
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chemicalvampffffu, do you know what im trying to do?11:41
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ffffuyeah..are you on the network?11:42
ffffuifconfig11:42
ffffuor ping www.google.com11:42
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chemicalvampyes my wlan0 is showing, but ping www.google.com failed11:43
ffffuyou using wireless ?11:43
chemicalvampyes11:43
ffffuiwlist wlan0 scanning11:43
ffffudo u see anything11:43
chemicalvampyes, the network im connected to11:44
ffffuhaha u are not conencted yet11:44
ffffubut you see the network right..hmm what wireless card u using11:44
chemicalvampokie11:44
ffffulspci11:44
chemicalvampoh god that command.. 1 sec11:44
ffffudo you find your wireless card's name in the list?11:44
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chemicalvampive never seen it in tere11:44
ffffuits a pci wireless card right?11:45
chemicalvamp<--- laptop11:45
chemicalvampso i dk11:45
ffffuokok nvmind11:45
ffffuyou want manual way or gui way11:46
ffffumanual way to set up your network11:46
ffffusudo vi /etc/network/interfaces11:46
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chemicalvampmy network needs to be manualy set up with wlassistant.. so manual i guess.. i have all the stuff i need to do it11:46
ffffusudo nano /etc/network/interfaces (nano easier to use)11:47
ffffufind the line auto wlan011:47
ffffuiface wlan0 inet dhcp11:47
ffffuput in "wireless-essid xxxxxxxx"11:47
ffffuand "wireless-key xxxxxxxx"11:47
ffffuessid is where u see in iwlist wlan0 scanning11:48
ffffufollowing so far?11:48
chemicalvampso substitute the x's with what i find in the scanning ting?11:48
ffffuyes.. hey does the network have WEP key on ?11:48
ffffuif it does, you must get the key its in hexidecimal format or acsi11:49
chemicalvampencryption key:off11:49
ffffuoh ok then don't need to put the line wireless-key xxxx11:49
ffffujust put wireless-essid11:49
ffffuxxx11:49
ffffuwireless-essid xxxx11:49
ffffuafter that sudo ifdown wlan011:50
ffffusudo ifup wlan011:50
chemicalvampone sec, how do i add that first thing in11:50
ffffuare u in vi or nano?11:50
ffffuuse nano11:50
chemicalvampnano11:50
ffffuvi us difficult11:50
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ffffupress enter on the line below iface wlan0 inet dhcp11:50
ffffupress Ctrl X to save and exit11:51
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: ffffu has a point there, why not just copy edgy's /etc/network/interfaces over to Feisty?11:51
chemicalvampcuz this info isnt in either11:51
ffffu!!! u have one? that's easier11:51
chemicalvampthere both identical11:51
chemicalvampi checked it11:52
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chemicalvampESSID:"gilley network" is whats displayed n scanning11:52
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roothello11:52
ffffuwireless assistance manager doesn't edit the file /etc/network/interfaces11:52
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: In that case it's not an issue with the network/interfaces11:52
ffffuwhich mean to say u need to run wireless assistance manger to connect everytime..until u edit that file11:52
chemicalvampso we continue?11:52
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chemicalvampESSID:"gilley network" quotes no quotes?11:53
ffffutry ifup and ifdown to see if u can accquire network ip11:53
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: I think it doesnt even matter...11:53
ffffuno qutes11:53
ffffuput11:53
se7en11anybody know how to play vcd files .dat ?11:53
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chemicalvampok whats after that?11:53
ffffuwireless-essid gilley network11:53
dany_21se7en11: give vlc a try11:53
ffffuhey maybe got quote11:54
se7en11no11:54
ubunturase7en11 using kplayer software11:54
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Let me check mine, one second11:54
chemicalvampok quotes in11:54
chemicalvampwhat next11:54
ffffusudo ifdown wlan011:55
ffffusudo ifup wlan011:55
ffffuthen ifconfig11:55
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chemicalvampsave this and run those or put those in it?11:55
ffffuchemicalvamp: without quote11:55
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ffffuchemicalvamp: its wireless-essid gilley network11:55
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Confirmed, no quotes11:55
ffffusave it11:55
ffffunooooooooo11:56
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ffffuchemicalvamp: save it.. don't put the sudo ifdown and up into the file11:56
MilhousePunkRockI doubt that spaces are allowed, not sure though11:56
ffffudo it at the terminal11:56
se7en11ubuntura: kplayer11:56
chemicalvampgot that11:56
ubunturase7en11 kplayer (the media player for linux kde desktop)11:57
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chemicalvamproot@ubuntu:/# sudo ifdown wlan0 (displayed) ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory11:57
ffffuchemicalvamp: don't worry about that11:58
ffffuchemicalvamp: sudo ifup wlan011:58
chemicalvampsaid the same thing11:58
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: I think you need to exit the chroot again and mount /var like you mounted the other directories11:58
dettoaltrimentiis there a program that lets a linux computer show up on My Network Places in windows?11:58
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MilhousePunkRockdettoaltrimenti: Samba11:59
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ffffunot sure if you got the drivers installed..hm11:59
MilhousePunkRock!samba11:59
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT11:59
dettoaltrimentithanks11:59
chemicalvampso type exit?11:59
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Yes11:59
ffffuiwlist (tab tab) whos what?11:59
ffffuiwlist (tab tab) shows what?11:59
ffffui mean11:59
ffffunvmind11:59
ffffuifup (tabtab)11:59
chemicalvamphuh?12:00
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Mount /var12:00
MilhousePunkRockand chroot again12:00
ffffutype that command and press tab without pressing enter12:00
ffffudoes it show ath0   eth0   eth1   eth2   lo     wlan0 or something12:01
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chemicalvampmount -t none -o bind /var /mnt/hda1/proc    ?12:01
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chemicalvampvar* not proc12:01
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Yes12:01
joheyHow can I make digiKam start when inserting my camera into a USB port? Currently, it just offers me to open in new window or do nothing. However, the icon is a camera and KDE-demon calls the device "USB Imaging Interface".12:01
chemicalvampdone12:02
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Chroot again12:02
pollyojohey: Isn't there an option to add programs to the selection it gives you?12:02
chemicalvampsudo chroot /mnt/hda112:02
chemicalvampnow what12:03
MilhousePunkRocksu12:03
chemicalvampoops12:03
joheypollyo: Yes there is... Hm.12:03
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joheypollyo: I can try that one.12:03
chemicalvamplol exit and do it again12:03
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: nvm, just type su12:03
MilhousePunkRock"su"12:03
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chemicalvampsudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su entered12:04
ubunturawhen i start x the kde will start automaitic how to make x (startx) start non start kde ????12:05
chemicalvampi dont get it.. i ping google in root@ubuntu:/# and i get nothing12:05
pollyoBBL12:05
ffffuchemicalvamp: i think u need to first find out what's ur wireless card by typing lspci ..12:05
chemicalvampbut ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dies it perfectly12:05
ffffuchemicalvamp: seems to me its not detected12:06
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chemicalvampare we encountering the same problems i had running fiesty?12:06
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ffffuhuh what's the situation? u using edgy or fiesty12:06
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ffffuupgrade or12:06
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ffffufresh installation12:06
chemicalvampfiesty is /mnt/hda112:07
Dusk_my kaffeine player doesn't show subtitles12:07
chemicalvampright now im talking to you thru a live cd12:07
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Dusk_ it's chosen but it doesn't show12:07
Dusk_it used to show12:07
ffffuoic12:07
Dusk_but all of a sudden it stopped showing subtitles12:07
ffffuwhy are u connecting to net first during installation12:07
natsume_Dusk12:08
chemicalvamplspci = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13646/12:08
natsume_reinstall kaffiene12:08
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Dusk_natsume_: i reinstalled12:08
MilhousePunkRockjohey: What you are looking for might be in the notifications section in settings12:08
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Dusk_natsume_: but it's same12:08
ubunturawhat is *.so files ?12:08
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ffffu05:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)12:08
chemicalvampah k12:09
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Since it's recognised as an ethernet card, do you maybe have eth1?12:09
natsume_just want to ask him same questio12:10
natsume_hehehe12:10
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: type "ifconfig"12:10
ubunturawhat is *.so files ?12:10
chemicalvampi have in if config eth0 lo and wlan012:10
ffffucould it be the modules not loaded12:10
lotusleafI followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?12:10
ffffufor the wireless?12:10
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chemicalvampin fiesty, wlan0 isnt even there12:11
natsume_ubuntu iso = image12:11
chemicalvamptyping ifconfig wlan0 up says device not found or somehting like that12:11
natsume_ubuntu iso =complete image of cdirom12:11
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natsume_try ifconfig eth112:11
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ffffulemme figure out what are the modules for this card12:12
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: type just "ifconfig" that should show you all cards12:12
chemicalvampifconfig eth0 does not disply the right MAC address12:12
joheyWhen choosing to start digiKam on camera connection, it automatically makes this command line: 'digikam -caption "%c" %i %m'. However, when launching that, I just get an error message (translated into English from Swedish) "Error - Kio run: The file or directory / doesn't exist".12:12
chemicalvampwlan0 shows the right MAC (i know)12:13
ubunturanot iso12:13
ubunturaso12:13
joheyWhat are those %i and %m options?12:13
ubunturathe so files12:13
ffffuchemicalvamp: can u type lsmod | grep rtl818712:13
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ffffuchemicalvamp: if nothing type lsmod | grep rtl12:13
ffffuif nothign means your rtl8187 module not loaded12:13
chemicalvampdone, didnt display anything12:13
ffffucan try typing modprobe rtl818712:14
ffffuand try lsmod | grep rtl12:14
ffffuif its loaded12:14
ffffutry sudo ifup wlan012:14
chemicalvampFATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory12:14
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ffffuah12:14
ffffudid u sudo ?12:14
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: I really wonder why the network won't work inside the chroot, I am just upgrading my gentoo from kubuntu12:14
ffffusudo modprobe rtl818712:14
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chemicalvampsudo sad the same thing12:15
natsume_it's a dynamic shared object12:15
natsume_i guess12:15
natsume_hehehe12:15
MilhousePunkRockffffu: Remember he is chroot'ed12:15
natsume_not really sure12:15
ffffudo a modprobe -l | grep rtl12:15
chemicalvampsame12:15
ffffuooooo12:15
ffffucan he chroot to default?12:15
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cucochemicalvamp: resolv.conf available on the chroot? /proc?12:16
ffffuMihousePu: how do u chroot back to default ?12:16
MilhousePunkRockexit12:17
ffffusomehow.. u need to modprobe rtl818712:17
ffffuthat could enable ur wireless..12:17
MilhousePunkRockffffu: But outside the chroot he is on the live cd, where the wifi works12:18
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chemicalvampdo you want the !paste of my ls /proc?12:18
ffffuOh12:18
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chemicalvampi dont see a resolv in ls /proc12:19
cucochemicalvamp: /etc/resolv.conf12:27
chemicalvampu want me to nano it or what12:27
cucodoes it exists?12:27
cucoit should containt the same as the one outside the chroot12:27
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chemicalvampresolvconf12:27
cucochemicalvamp: in the chroot, ping 64.233.187.99 (i want to see if this is a dns problem)12:27
hnsnhello friends!!12:27
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chemicalvampnano /etc/resolv.conf brings up an empty12:27
yaccinyay tastymenu 0.7 \o/12:27
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themijsamai amai12:27
chemicalvampits pining12:27
chemicalvampping is spamming me, how do i make it stop?12:27
ffffuctrl - c12:27
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Ctrl-C12:27
chemicalvampk12:27
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chemicalvamp--- 64.233.187.99 ping statistics ---12:27
chemicalvamp52 packets transmitted, 0 received, +48 errors, 100% packet loss, time 51009ms12:27
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: 100% packet loss doesn't sound too good12:27
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chemicalvampor the 48 errors12:27
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: We could copy your edgy's resolv.conf over to feisty and chroot again12:28
chemicalvampworth a try i say12:29
chemicalvampi dont know the commands tho12:29
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ffffuwhat are u doing, why are u trying to load you fiesty setting when in a live cd?12:30
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MilhousePunkRockffffu: His wifi does not work in the installed Feisty, but inside his Live Edgy12:30
chemicalvampno we wanna put the live cd setting into fiesty right?12:30
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ffffuoic12:31
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MilhousePunkRockis it /etc/resolv.conf?12:31
joheyWhen trying to start digiKam by inserting the camera, it says it cannot start because file or directory / doesn't exist. Why? What is the difference from starting it by the K menu?12:32
ffffuhmm sounds like a funny way to troubleshoot his wifi12:32
chemicalvampthere is one line in live cd's resolv.conf12:32
chemicalvampnameserver12:32
ffffui would boot in fiesty and see if its a drivers/modules problem, or is it settings12:32
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Exit12:33
chemicalvampfiesty resolv.conf is empty12:33
chemicalvampshoud i paste the line from live cd?12:33
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: And then "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/hda1/etc/resolv.conf"12:34
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chemicalvampk now sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su   ?12:34
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Yup12:35
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MilhousePunkRockHobbsee: DoomStick?12:35
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HobbseeMilhousePunkRock: the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  rules!12:35
linopilany one using virtualization with INTEL VT MB?12:35
nazgjunkhey, how'd i get applications to open web links in firefox instead of in konqueror?12:35
nazgjunkcopy/pasting is getting a bit annoying12:36
c1|freakyhi all. where can i change the behaviour when clicking on symbols like the ones on the desktop? i dont want one-click-execution ... instead i want it like in windows with doubleclick so i have the chance to press DEL to remove icons etc.12:36
linopilnazgjunk,  you mean from chat app12:36
linopilor?12:36
MilhousePunkRocknazgjunk: Default applications in the settings centre12:36
nazgjunklinopil, for instance12:36
linopil!alternatives12:36
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.12:36
nazgjunklooks like fun12:36
linopil^^12:36
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ffffuc1|freaky: go systems-->mouse/keyboard-->singleclick change to doubleclick12:37
MilhousePunkRockc1|freaky: I think that's in the settings too12:37
ffffuc1|freaky: go system settings -->mouse/keyboard-->singleclick change to doubleclick12:37
c1|freakythx :D12:37
chemicalvampok now what?12:38
MilhousePunkRockc1|freaky: Alternatively, you can "draw" little squares around obkects to highlight them12:38
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: apt-get update12:38
chemicalvamphey there we go12:39
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: PLEEEEEASE tell me it's resolving now12:39
chemicalvampoh yes its going xD12:39
MilhousePunkRock\o/12:40
chemicalvampso this is all fiesty then huh?12:40
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chemicalvampwe should document what we did dont you think?12:40
nazgjunkyay, it's working just fine12:40
MilhousePunkRockwell, one problem solved, a thousand remaining...12:40
liamlol12:40
chemicalvamponly a thousand?12:40
ffffuhey goodluck12:40
ffffui gtg12:40
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chemicalvampi bet i hit every one of them12:40
chemicalvampthvvm12:41
chemicalvampthanks very very much12:41
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: No, _I_ wanted to use your edgy's resolv.conf in the first place, Hobbsee said we wouldn't need to12:41
liami hit all the problems when i installed fiesty12:41
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chemicalvampits all good12:41
chemicalvampok updates are in12:41
MilhousePunkRockWhy the hedge is everyone saying "Fiesty" when it's called "Feisty"?12:41
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: apt-get dist-upgrade12:42
liamcause i cant spell :)12:42
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chemicalvamperm lol12:42
chemicalvamp739 upgraded 78 new 3 removed12:42
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chemicalvampE: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.12:43
MilhousePunkRockliam: You are not alone with that..12:43
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: LoL12:43
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liamthat makes me feel better!12:43
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock 692mb it comes to12:44
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: sure you cant install anything on the live CD12:44
chemicalvampyou can install stuff on live cd, it goes to ram.. but you lose it all when you reboot12:44
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: What about exiting once again, and unmounting /var again?12:45
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chemicalvampmaybe its permisions?12:45
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: But as we mounted the cd's /var, you cannot... because you cant write on the cd12:45
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: no12:45
chemicalvampok then tell me what to do12:45
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MilhousePunkRockPermissions are not the answer to all Linux questions... ;-)12:45
MilhousePunkRockexit12:46
chemicalvampk12:46
MilhousePunkRocksudo umount /dev/hda1/var12:46
MilhousePunkRocksudo chroot /dev/hda1 su12:46
MilhousePunkRockapt-get update12:46
chemicalvampumount: /dev/hda1/var: Not a directory12:46
MilhousePunkRockapt-get dist-upgrade12:46
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Right... sudo umount /mnt/hda1/var12:47
MilhousePunkRockBetter?12:47
chemicalvampif we used the cds var, it wouldnt be hda would it?12:47
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chemicalvampyes lol12:47
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chemicalvampok well i say somebody with this in mind should write it down and post it12:49
chemicalvamp209 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded12:51
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viohiya guys12:54
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viois this the place i can ask for help?12:54
MilhousePunkRockvio: Yes, go ahead... I am in a helpy mood...12:54
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viojust need to know what to type to get the "unofficial ati drivers" the kind i need is  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 12:55
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: There is no guarantee that it will work after the updates though...12:55
MilhousePunkRock!ati12:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:55
viothx ^^,12:55
vioanother quicky.. berly and compiz.. how do i install that?12:55
chemicalvampyeah well it'de be less of a wase of time then the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade i did12:55
MilhousePunkRock!beryl12:56
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:56
viothx :DD12:56
violol12:56
MilhousePunkRockvio: The bot is triggered with !keyword12:56
vioyeah i figured it out12:56
chemicalvamp!botsnack12:56
ubotuYum!12:56
ded_dans kdevelop comment regenerer ma classe de dialog quand j ai modifier le .ui dans qt sans effacer mes slots deja implementer?12:56
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MilhousePunkRock!beer12:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
MilhousePunkRockded_: English please12:57
chemicalvampthis one is funny12:57
MilhousePunkRock!fr12:57
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:57
chemicalvamp!love12:57
ubotuLove is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.12:57
ded_sorry12:57
vioi've used it before just wasted lots of time finding drivers.. so i figured i'd ask this time12:57
chijin!sex12:57
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:57
Jucato!botabuse12:57
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...12:57
viohow can i check what kind of version i have of ubuntu?12:57
vionot sure if it is 6.1012:58
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: You know about the Firefox/Iceweasel issue in Debian?12:58
Jucatovio: "lsb_release -a" in Konsole12:58
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock no im pretty new12:58
vioty12:59
viodamn.. u guys are helpful ^^,12:59
supernixanyone know of a good gui for configuring apache or something free that is like cpanel ?12:59
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock what was it>01:00
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Well, Firefox and/or the Mozilla foundation does not fit Debian's license... So they renamed Firefox Iceweasel01:00
ded_ in kdevelop how to regenerate dialog underclass from qt ui without delete implemented slot?01:00
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chemicalvampweird01:01
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chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock, so you think you'll write a how-to for what we did?01:03
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: How's the download going?01:03
viohow do i become root?01:03
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: No01:03
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chemicalvamp16%01:03
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MilhousePunkRockvio: Why would you want to do that?01:03
vioin console01:03
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vioto install beryl01:03
liamsudo before your command01:03
MilhousePunkRockvio: sudo command01:03
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock you should, you remember what we had to do right?01:04
viothx01:04
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mefisto__anyone using amarok to download podcasts?01:04
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Well, that's plain linux basics... And still, we don't know if it will help at all...01:04
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: I am much to lazy to write howto's01:04
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock well lets say it does :)01:04
vioi get chmod 755 beryl-setup01:05
vioi mean i get opearation not permitted01:05
viowhen i type that01:05
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MilhousePunkRockI always thought about putting up some kind of blog or something to keep track of what I did with Linux so far01:05
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chemicalvampsudo chmod 755 beryl-setup?01:05
MilhousePunkRockvio: Try "sudo chmod 755 beryl-setup" instead01:05
viotryin*01:05
viook.. i think i worked..01:06
MilhousePunkRockisnt beryl in the repos by now?01:06
chemicalvampwell i have to work in 4 hours.. so looks like i pulled an all nighter lol01:06
mefisto__whenever amarok is downloading a podcast, the progress meter stops at 44%, although it seems to continue downloading. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?01:06
vio!xgl01:06
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:06
viowhat is xgl?01:06
vio^01:07
sonoftheclayrmefisto__: #amarok01:07
mefisto__thanks sonoftheclayr01:07
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chemicalvampdoes linux have a .wmv player?01:08
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: You got jabber, msn, icq or aim? Unlike most others, I am not here all day, in case more issues appear...01:08
MilhousePunkRock!multimedia01:08
ubotuFor multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications01:08
vioquestion: can i use the installer from atiamd.com ?01:08
chemicalvampi got yahoo, msn and aim01:08
MilhousePunkRockvio: You shouldn't, I am sure there is a kubuntu package for your ATI card01:10
chemicalvamp!ati01:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:12
chemicalvampi had to do it too01:12
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chemicalvampits pretty easy to do01:13
vio!ati01:13
viohmm01:13
viostrange01:13
vio!ati01:13
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:13
chemicalvampbot like me more01:13
chemicalvamp^01:13
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sonoftheclayrdoes anyone have their wireless set to connect on startup in feisty?01:19
MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: Me01:20
chemicalvampsonoftheclayr.. grrr mine never detected it01:21
sonoftheclayri have to set the essid every time i boot up and connect it01:21
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MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: I think you can set that in the options, on the other hand, someone said the network manager does not touch your /etc/network/interfaces01:22
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock you think that could have been what kept mine from going all those times?01:22
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Unlikely, since your device wasn't even there01:22
sonoftheclayrMilhousePunkRock i have but it doesn't work, it does inedgy though, i think i should file a bug report01:23
chemicalvampoh right lol01:23
MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: Do you have your ESSID hidden?01:23
sonoftheclayryeah01:23
MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: Well, I don't. No use anyway, since a scan will reveal that...01:23
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sonoftheclayri only made it hidden because they were picking it up at the community house and it must've been confusing some non-techno people01:24
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MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: That's not your problem, is it?01:24
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sonoftheclayrno01:24
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Progress?01:24
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chemicalvamp42%01:24
chemicalvampdownload is steady 60.301:25
steven_hello01:25
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: That's kinda slow...01:25
chemicalvampnot my internet so i dont care :)01:25
sonoftheclayrwill knetworkmanager automatically connect it?01:26
steven_has anybody managed to use a dlink wireless network adapter who can help me please01:26
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chemicalvamptheres a campus router within range from tere library, bad signal01:27
MilhousePunkRockOh, no, more wireless troubles...01:27
steven_indeed01:27
chemicalvamplol01:27
MilhousePunkRocksteven_: What chipset01:27
MilhousePunkRock?01:27
sonoftheclayrsteven_: i have a dlink dwl g630 firmware e1 (i think) i connected it using the madwifi drivers01:27
steven_the usb dongle is a d-link DWL-G122 hardware version C101:28
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MilhousePunkRocksteven_: Let's start simple, type "lsusb" and look for "DLink" in the output01:28
steven_ok lets go01:28
MilhousePunkRockI have pretty high hopes that DLink uses Atheros chips in all their devices, so it shouldn't be too hard with madwifi01:29
steven_Bus 002 Device 002: ID 07d1:3c03 D-Link System01:29
sonoftheclayrMilhousePunkRock: my other wireless card wich is the same as mine but diferent firmware uses ralink01:30
steven_from what ive seen on the net its a railink chip01:30
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sonoftheclayrsteven_: i've configure a ralink chip before, what version of ubuntu are you running?01:30
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steven_the thing works and i get a list of available networks with wireless assistant on kde01:31
steven_but cant connect to any of them01:31
steven_version 6.1001:31
hansIs there any special consideration that I must take with regard to Kubuntu when shopping for a camcorder?01:31
chemicalvampohh i know how to fix this lol01:32
steven_kubuntu01:32
MilhousePunkRocksteven_: What about this: http://www.hotubuntunews.com/blog_2.shtml01:32
steven_let me check the link hold on01:32
sonoftheclayrthere's a good post on how to configure a ralink card in the forums, let me find it01:32
steven_is there a command i can use to find out what my ubuntu is cos i think its edgy but not sure how to find out01:33
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MilhousePunkRocksteven_: We've just had that, let me scroll up and find it01:34
MilhousePunkRock"lsb_release -a" in Konsole01:34
sonoftheclayryou can just go in to tty and it tells you at the login prompt, much faster01:34
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sonoftheclayrthat post was for dapper though :'(01:35
MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: Indeed01:35
linopilhow do I force after install a 3 runlevel because of bad resolution?01:35
MilhousePunkRockI dont think it matters much, the /etc/network/interfaces is still the place to go01:35
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steven_ok its 6.10 edgy01:36
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hansIs there any special consideration that I must take with regard to Kubuntu when shopping for a camcorder?01:36
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linopilhow do I catch stepbystep boot01:37
steven_like i said it lists networks in wireless assitant it will connect but i then lose my usb modem connectio so how do i set up to use usb modem and wireless network as seperat things but both connected at same time01:37
steven_if that makes sense01:37
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chemicalvampsteven_ i dont know if it will help but i can tell you how i fixed that on my notebook01:38
MilhousePunkRocksteven_: No, it does not. You cannot be connected with two devices at the same time, AFAIK01:38
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vio:(01:39
steven_bummer01:39
steven_:(01:39
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vio!repositories01:40
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu01:40
steven_thanks for the advice to all those that spoke to me on this you are to kind01:40
lukeanother thing, every now and again my card disconnects and i have to mess about reconnecting it -sonoftheclayr, im going to get my nickname back brb01:41
chemicalvampsteven_ did you get that?01:41
MilhousePunkRocksteven_: I might be wrong though. But since noone corrected, I guess I am not01:41
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steven_i thought i read somewhere about configuring 2 connections but dont remeber the prob seems to be with domains01:42
MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: That might be a router thing, not sure if you can fix that01:42
vio  Currently, there are only unstable SVN packages for Edgy Eft.?01:42
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steven_my isp gives me one whe i connect and my wireless connection uses a fixed domain01:43
MilhousePunkRocksteven_: OK, within the same domain you cannot be connected twice for sure01:43
sonoftheclayrit's not a router thing, the card connects fine in edgy and stays connected in edgy, this is the second time it's happened today and it always gets me at a bad time!01:43
steven_so when i connect wireless i lose my isp domain and hence internet connection01:43
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MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: Until the final release, Feisty is testing... :-)01:43
sonoftheclayrMilhousePunkRock: i know but it's just so fast and easy and cool and better01:44
sonoftheclayri'll file a bug report or two and see if it can be fixed before april 19 :)01:44
MilhousePunkRocksonoftheclayr: Good luck...01:44
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Progress?01:44
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sonoftheclayrhmmm...i have to figure out this new launchpad design first01:45
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock about another half hour and it should be done01:45
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: OK, I will check back then01:45
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chemicalvamphopefully i wont be stuck at the dreadfull commnd prompt like i was before01:46
viowhy can't some1 make a easy gui for beryl?!01:46
sayersit comes with one01:46
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vioit does?01:47
sayersyes...01:47
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alexandrehello all01:47
vioany link?01:47
sayersiti s built in01:47
alexandrewhen is kubuntu going to be released?01:47
steven_hello alexandre01:47
viohow do i execute?01:47
alexandrethe final version?01:47
sayersIt is already stable alexandre01:48
steven_im using kubuntu 6.10 edgy and its stable01:48
viosame... its good01:48
sonoftheclayri think it might be a problem with the madwifi drivers, i'll poke around there a bit01:48
alexandresu it is worthy upgrade my 6.0?01:48
steven_havnt use 6.001:48
chemicalvamptry a 7.04 desktop cd01:48
alexandreok01:49
sayersIs there any built in tool that can alarm me after X amount of time ?01:49
sonoftheclayri'll be back, i'm recompiling some drivers01:49
waylandbillfeisty is still in beta. if you don't want beta instabilities, don't upgrade yet.01:49
alexandrethanks for your advice01:49
chemicalvamp!kalarm01:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kalarm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:49
chemicalvamp!info kalarm01:49
ubotukalarm: KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 642 kB, installed size 1892 kB01:49
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sayersalexandre: Feisty has only a few little bugs. It's comming out pretty soon to be our new stable release :)01:50
MilhousePunkRockalexandre: There is no 6.001:50
[pyro] woo setting up kubuntu on a 6 drive raid 5 :)01:50
[pyro] weeee01:50
alexandresorry 6.1001:50
steven_anybody know what this means? X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 17001:50
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MilhousePunkRockalexandre: Stick with that for another 3 weeks, then 7.04 is released01:51
chemicalvamphow did you get that?01:51
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steven_typing in console sudo kedit /etc/network/interfaces01:51
waylandbillI agree with MilhousePunkRock. Unless you're looking to be one of the bug triage persons, just hold off.01:52
vio!beryl01:52
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:52
waylandbillI have to go to install this 1GB memory chip. WOOO!01:52
MilhousePunkRocksteven_: kedit seems to be a kde tool, either you use a cli editor or use "kdesu foo bar" on "run command" in kde01:52
steven_i tried beryl but my graphics card is to crap01:52
holastickboyanyone actually tried beryl01:53
sayersyes its cool but not accutely productive.01:53
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MilhousePunkRockholastickboy: I did, next to unusable, but pretty01:53
holastickboylol, might give it a go01:53
steven_thanks millhouse i think i need a decent graphics card anyway as i get a lot of xserver errors01:53
sayersits good to impress some one01:54
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MilhousePunkRocksteven_: Getting better hardware to make things work is the windows approach, just work on making the existing hardware work in linux01:54
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steven_i managed to get glx working after 2 days at command line but its an old ati card and ati dont release the driver for it01:55
sayerssteven_: The ubuntu / kubuntu wiki couldve probably got you working in 20 minutes tops01:56
sayersunless this is a really old card01:56
steven_its radeon 7000 with 64 meg memory agp 8X01:56
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sayersHell that aint old01:57
sayersa 8mb card is old01:57
smilehello linuxians01:58
sayersHio01:58
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smiledid any one here use Cedega ?01:58
steven_ati drivers start at the 9200 i think but it works good enough now01:58
sayerssteven_: there is a magical page and I will show you as long as you promise to love the Ubuntu wiki01:58
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steven_apart from occasionally i get sent back to the login screen for no reason01:58
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steven_tell me where the ubuntu wiki is as im new to ubuntu after getting fed up with mandriva01:59
sayerssteven_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:59
sayersthere is the link to what you want too :)01:59
holastickboysmile: i have used it before01:59
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steven_a link to a wad of cash?01:59
smileholastickboy: how to install and use it ?02:00
sayersno better a working graphics card that costed you a wad of caash02:00
holastickboysmile: i used the cvscedega about 1 1/2 years ago and i used it like i did wine, cvscedega programname.exe02:01
smileholastickboy: wich games did u try ?02:02
holastickboysmile: www.linux-gamers.net02:02
steven_thanks sayers will try it out later but the fglrx driver was giving me probs when i used it before02:02
holastickboysmile: at the time i was wanting to run steam on Linux, which actually worked nicely02:02
JuJuBeeI need help with iptables.  Im a noob.  I have squid/dansguarding/iptables on a server. One computer is set to use the server as gateway and all works fine (blocking, filtering...).  I set a second computer to use the server as gateway and cannot http to google, but can ping it.02:02
jannhi. i'm having trouble with my power manager. there is the logo in the system tray, but it doesnt show the battery status. when i click on it, it opens but everything is gray and seems to be disabled. a while ago i did some acpi configuration with help of others here in the channel because (i thought) my fan wasnt working properly. the problem is that i dont know what we changed... any ideas how i can get back my power manager?02:02
sayerssteven_: I think you fubar-ed it to where it'd be easier to start fresh02:02
sayersjann: Who made your computer?02:03
smileholastickboy: can i play NFS and GTA ?02:03
holastickboysmile: http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page02:03
holastickboysmile: i dont know, i havent been current with cedega for some time now02:03
steven_i totally removed fglrx so will follow giude on the link you gave me02:03
smileholastickboy: ok .. thx a lot :-)02:04
sayerscedega should be free :(02:04
jannsayers: another problem, it was set together from different parts02:04
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sayersjann: Hm, well I will find the link that fixed my fan problem02:04
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jannsayers: cool, thanks02:05
sayersjann: Towards the very bottom02:05
sayershttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7597202:05
renatohi, I am having a problem with all usb thum drives, as soon as I plug them in, Kubuntu (6.10) automatically mounts them, but they are all readonly...??02:05
sayerschange its permissions ?02:06
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holastickboysayers: i would like cedega to be free too, but they do a lot of work and its only $502:06
sonoftheclayrrenato: what filesystem?02:06
holastickboysayers: if u want a free cedega, try http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page02:06
sayersholastickboy: is there a list of all the games it works for?02:06
renatoI guess they are FAT, I can go and double check...02:06
jannsayers: i think lm-sensors was what i installed the last time. before, the power manager worked...02:06
renatothis applies to everything from an USB key to a SD card... everything02:07
renatoI never formatted them, but I would be surprised  if it was something else than FAT02:07
sayersholastickboy: you mean Wine?02:07
renato(a camera does nto handle NTFS)02:07
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sayersjann: Run sudo pwmconfigure02:09
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jannsayers: ok02:09
holastickboysayers: well, cedega is slightly modified version of wine02:09
jannsayers: pwmconfigure: command not found02:09
holastickboysmile: sayers: here is a list of supported games for Cedega http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/02:09
sayerswait I might of typed it wrong02:09
sayerscedgea supoorts direct x and such not sure if wine does02:10
smileholastickboy: so cedega isnt free!02:10
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sayersjann: sudo pwmconfig02:10
sonoftheclayrrenato: well?02:11
holastickboysmile: not the binary version of Cedega, but the version that u can compile urself is,  http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page02:11
jannsayers: same02:11
jannsayers: With PwManager you can easily manage your passwords. (?)02:11
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sayersjann: sudo pwmconfig02:11
sayersexactly that02:12
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jannsayers: pwmconfig: command not found02:12
Ind[y] What are the bad points of enabling Universe?02:12
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sayersjann: did you use sudo and have you installed lm-sensors to check type sensors-detect or sensors02:12
renatosonoftheclayr: for some strange reason, now I can read and write from those thumb drives... this makes little sense02:13
renatome <- puzzled02:13
sonoftheclayrrenato weird, im puzzled too02:13
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jannsayers: i ran it in sudo, lm-sensors is not installed though. do i need to use the power manager?02:13
sayersjann: yes02:14
jannok02:14
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jannsayers: ok, now pwmconfig says this: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed02:16
jannand sensors: Can't access procfs/sysfs file02:16
sayersjann: you have to run sudo for all this A and b you must run sudo sensors-detect first02:16
jannok02:17
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jannsayers: sensors-detect: Sorry, no chips were detected. (after answering yes everytime)02:19
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sayersjann: none at all?02:19
jannsayers: thats what it says02:19
jannsayers: the only thing is: Client found at address 0x6902:20
jannon SMBus I801 adapter at 140002:20
sayersDid it ask you to write that to a file?02:20
jannno02:21
sayers"Do you want to add these lines to /etc/modules automatically? (yes/NO)"02:21
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lotusleafI followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?02:21
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jannsayers: seems that i didnt get to that question02:21
sayersjann: try it again make sure to use sudo. there has to be atleast ONE thing it finds or I have no clue how your computer is even on right now02:22
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emil_p8hello all02:24
jannsayers: Module `i2c-i801' already loaded.02:24
jann(running it agai)02:24
jannagain02:24
chemicalvampwoot chroot feisty update is complete02:25
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sayersjann: now type sensors -f if you use Ferinheit or sensors02:26
sayerschemicalvamp: i am doing that right now ;)02:26
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vio!beryl02:27
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:27
chemicalvamphehe i think mine may have been a lil more complex.. i dk tho02:27
emil_p8I have a problem with my edgy>feisty update. I get no more the desktop device icons, except if i mount them manually. BTW all my /dev/hd* became /dev/sd*. Any help?02:27
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chemicalvampnope mine was custom02:27
sayersWhat is the command to make somthing a .sh , what is the first line I mean, what does it have to import / include?02:28
chemicalvampi didnt follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade02:28
sayers# !bin or somthing like that?02:28
jannsayers: Can't access procfs/sysfs file | Unable to find i2c bus information;02:28
chemicalvampi dk, i had 2 gurus helpme02:28
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viofuck... i installed the "xorg-driver-fglrx" drivers ...02:28
sayersjann: oh wait you have to restart the computer so it loads the module02:29
sayersvio: uninstall them :S02:29
viohow?02:29
jannsayers: but i think i didnt change anything so far02:29
sayersvio: look further on the down the page02:29
viok02:29
jannsayers: it just said "Module `i2c-i801' already loaded."02:29
sayersjann: I dont know it's worth a try02:29
jannok02:29
sayersjann: You can pray02:29
jann;)02:29
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chemicalvampsayers i had to mount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/hda1/tmp same with dev, proc, and var02:30
jannsayers: which file was it where the entries are written to?02:30
sayersjann: /etc/modules02:31
sayerschemicalvamp: heh02:31
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soonMy IBM T60 laptop has a bluetooth integrated. I can find it in the BIOS setup (its enabled), I can see it in #dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13654/ but I cannot find it anywhere else, such as lsusb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13638/  and finally hcitool dev is empty (no devices). Im STUCK !!!02:31
chemicalvampsayers, by the way, i had feisty installed on hda1, only had internet on live cd02:31
soonI'm not having any luck and not much help - any BT gurus around?02:32
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chemicalvampsayers it was in total like a 10 hour ordeal02:33
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vioi have succesfully installed beryl but i installed the wrong driver (xorg-driver-fglrx), i can uninstall it by: " sudo apt-get remove fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-kernel fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r) " what drivers do i then need to get the beryl working?02:34
vioyeah.. im a newbie02:35
lotusleafvio, #ubuntu-effects may prove useful02:35
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Photonhi02:36
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Photonive downloaded KDevelop on my desktop02:36
Photonhow can i install it on Kubuntu?02:36
viothey seem not to answer02:36
Photontell me Step By Step02:37
lotusleafvio, repeat your question every 30 mins to 1 hr until they do :)02:37
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Is there no package for it in adept?02:37
lotusleafvio, see also ubuntuforums.org02:37
Photonno....02:37
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Photonplease just tell me step by step02:37
clemyeatsvio: did you try envy ?02:37
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vioclemyeats, nope02:37
MilhousePunkRockdid you search for a different repo that might have it, Photon?02:38
clemyeatsPhoton: try "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"02:38
Photoni tried..doesnt work....02:38
clemyeatsvio: check "Alberto Milone"'s website on the internet. He's written envy 0.9.1 (with a GUI).. it downloads and installs the latest ATI/Nvidia drivers for your card.02:38
vioah.. yeah.. heard about it.. but will it work with beryl?02:39
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Photonhow can i install a thing that i downloaded?????!?!?!??!?02:39
clemyeatsPhoton: you need to come with error messages, you can't just say "it didn't work".02:39
Photon.....02:39
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Basically untar, configure, make, make install02:39
PhotonReading package lists... Done02:39
PhotonBuilding dependency tree02:39
PhotonReading state information... Done02:39
PhotonE: Couldn't find package kdevelop02:39
sayersPhoton: if you have to ask #irc for each question how are you going to catch your own fish02:39
MilhousePunkRockAnyone noticed when chemicalvamp left?02:39
Photonu happy?02:40
clemyeatsyes02:40
Photonnice02:40
clemyeatsand you ?02:40
Photonyep....02:40
clemyeatscool.. now you might not have the right repositories set up..02:40
Photontell me step by step02:40
linopil\o02:40
Photon\o/02:40
linopilI installed ubuntu on MSvirtualPC200702:41
Eyelessis there a handy app for synchronizing my laptop with my desktop-computer? (ie i want both computers to have the latest versions of the files in my work-folder)02:41
Eyelessprefably with the least possible amount of work :D02:41
MilhousePunkRock!info kdevelop02:41
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB02:41
clemyeatsPhoton: kdevelop is in the Ubuntu repositories, so it's just a matter of having these right. Can you check the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?02:41
Photoninstalling an application in linux is really a pain...02:41
sayersPhoton: Yep it sucks , now stop complaining and leave.02:42
EyelessPhoton: no it isnt :P02:42
clemyeatsPhoton: on the contrary, it's quite trivial.02:42
Photonam a linux noob, ive just installed it yesturaday...and now i want an IDE which is KDevelop02:42
sayersThe problem is you cant read02:42
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: No, always use what your package manager offers. See, it is there, in universe. Just enable that and off you go02:42
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: If you don't know how to set up something from source, don't02:42
sayersLinux is more doccumented then anything you will ever see. use it to your advantage02:43
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Photonpeople, just tell me how to install? thanks...02:43
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clemyeatsPhoton: you need to uncomment the universe repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then update APT then you can install kdevelop.02:43
Photonhow? step by step02:43
EyelessPhoton: go into aptitude, search for kdevelop, klick install and of you go02:43
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MilhousePunkRockEyeless: Tell me if you find something, would be a nice extra if it synched mails too...02:43
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MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Kubuntu I assume?02:44
Photonyup02:44
clemyeatsPhoton: you need basic knowledge about APT, Adept and repositories, let me find a tutorial.02:44
Photonstep by step in numbers please02:44
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Click on the K in the lower left, click on system and there on adept manager02:44
Photondone02:45
EyelessMilhousePunkRock: yep,  it could be done with some scripts and rsync, but thats more work than i want to do atm.02:45
MilhousePunkRockEyeless: If you ever feel like creating it, let me know, I'd be the happiest guy to test it02:45
renatohi, I have tried to install ntfs-3g in order to install an external NTFS formatted drive. the posint is that, even when I have installed it, the new drive still gets recognised as of thype ntfs, at the opposite of fuse and it is still read only. Has anybody nay ewxperience with that?02:45
Photonwhats next???...02:45
MilhousePunkRockClick on the adept menu, and "manage sources" or whatever sounds alike...02:46
Photonok then...02:46
sayersIs there an alarm for the Terminal? I do not have acess to Apt right now02:46
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: I assume you are not on Feisty yet with the latest adept?02:46
clemyeatsPhoton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:47
MilhousePunkRockIf so, someone else needs to tell you how to enable the universe repository, I see there were changes here so I cannot guide you step by step on this one02:47
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Photonk nevermind forget it....02:48
Photonthanks anyway for the help02:48
Photon:)02:48
Photonbye02:48
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: It's simple, hang on02:48
Photon...02:49
MilhousePunkRockCould someone with the old fashioned adept please tell Photon how to enable universe?02:49
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Photoni have downloaded the new kubuntu yesturday...02:49
clemyeatsPhoton: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu (isn't that guide good enough ?)02:49
Photoni have adept 2.102:50
clemyeatsoh...02:50
clemyeatswell I can guide you through the command line.02:50
Photonthx02:50
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keyoHi, do any of you know about tv capture cards02:50
MilhousePunkRockclemyeats: Probably not...02:50
clemyeatsPhoton: you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list02:50
renatohi, anybody knows how to use ntfs-3g?02:50
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MilhousePunkRockPhoton: 2.1 Cruiser? That sounds like mine...02:50
MilhousePunkRockrenato: What do you need to know?02:50
Photonyup02:51
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Photon2.1 cruiser02:51
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MilhousePunkRockrenato: IIRC you run it as a module and it enables you to mount NTFS drives with write access02:51
renatowell, I have installed it using apt-get, but my drives are still type ntfs (and readonly) unstead of fuse02:51
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MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Did you find that "manage sources"?02:51
renatowhat is the module name supposed to be?02:51
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Photonmanage repositories...02:52
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MilhousePunkRockrenato: Honestly, I don't know, I have never added any modules manually to Kubuntu02:52
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Great, click on it, what does it bring up02:52
Photonlinks..02:52
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MilhousePunkRockPhoton: See, your adept is older than mine. Nevertheless, do you see anything greyed out?02:53
Photonyep02:53
Photoncomments02:54
MilhousePunkRockshould be a complete line, containing universe02:54
Photonyup found that02:54
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Highlight it and click enable at the bottom02:54
Photonthere are two links: dep and dep-src02:55
Photoni mean deb*02:55
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MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Take both of them. I assume the -src will get the source codes for you too. Won't harm02:56
Photonok done enabled them both02:56
Photonnow...02:56
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Now click on that green arrow circle that says "Get updates"02:56
MilhousePunkRockOr whatever it is02:57
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Photonclicked..02:57
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: That's gonna take a moment, after that, you can search for kdevelop in that search field02:57
Photonok :D02:57
MilhousePunkRockMost likely a warning sign will show up next to the clock, telling you there are updates02:58
Photonyup02:58
Photonill Full Upgrade02:58
Photonbut i still didnt find Kdevelop i searched02:59
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MilhousePunkRockPhoton: So you did not click on apply after you enabled universe?!?!02:59
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Photonops...hehe03:00
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crazy_busis there a quick way to convert multiple images into tiff images?03:00
Photonsorry... :P now checking for updates03:00
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grunthi there03:01
malcherhi i want to install alsa, but i need it with the option --with-cards=intel8x0... how can i say this to adept?03:01
Photonhi grunt03:02
malcheror, generally spoken... how can i give adept a flag?03:02
gruntim having problem with kubuntu installer. it refuses to detect my sata2 hdd03:02
PhotonMilhousePunkRock: hes the man03:02
grunti dl-ed latest dvd installer, i'd really like to use it :/03:03
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MilhousePunkRockmalcher: Adept does not compile stuff03:03
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Working now?03:03
Photonstill downloading...03:04
malcheri know MilhousePunkRock.. but is it possible with which flags the packages from adept where compiled MilhousePunkRock?03:04
malcher+to see :D03:04
MilhousePunkRockmalcher: Probably, but I wouldnt know how03:04
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: But you found kdevelop by now?03:04
Photonwait...03:04
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malcherokay.. but thanks anyway... i accidently uninstalled my alsa ans since that it doesn't work anymore.. even if i reinstall it..03:05
PhotonYAY Found it03:05
malcherbut as it worked before, i'm convinced the packages offered by adept are configured for my soundcard03:05
Photoni should download kdevelop3? or just kdevelop?03:06
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PhotonTHANKS A BILLION MilhousePunkRock03:06
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malcherhm, it seems my system is missing the right module, i see...03:07
gruntanyone had problems with sata2 and kubuntu installer?03:07
malchergrunt: sry, i use pata on my laptop :/03:07
gruntworth to notice that some other distros fail the same way as well03:08
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: You are welcome... Since you just started, time to get familiar with the wiki, it will have answers to most of your questions... Always try to install stuff from adept/apt-get03:08
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Photonokay... :D :D :D03:08
sh4rk0hello03:08
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Photonhello sh4rk003:09
Photonhow are you03:09
sh4rk0fine thk you. And you Photon ??03:10
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Photonam good :D03:11
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PhotonMilhousePunkRock: ive just started using linux but not computers ;P03:12
Photon;)03:13
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: Yeah, I figured that. Downloading an "installer" and installing it is really the windows-way.03:13
MilhousePunkRockPhoton: What you got was probably a tarball of the source code, sure you could have compiled it yourself, but it's not something I would recommend to begin with.03:13
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp!03:14
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock hey03:14
sh4rk0#kubuntu fr ?03:15
MilhousePunkRock!fr03:15
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.03:15
sh4rk0merci03:15
chemicalvampMilhousePunkRock well im all updated, but still dont have a wireless card03:15
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chemicalvampwhat did we do in chroot that fixed the internet?03:16
MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: so you are live again?03:16
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chemicalvampyup03:16
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MilhousePunkRockchemicalvamp: Well, the resolv.conf should still be there. And even if not, that can't be the reason why your card isnt there03:17
Photonok i gtg Thanks MilhousePunkRock for all the help :D03:17
Photonbye...03:17
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chemicalvampi checked that, it didnt chage03:17
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jannsayers: back again. another guess: acpi gives me "No support for device type: battery" could it be that the battery module is not loaded? what would i have to do to load it manually?03:18
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chemicalvamp#ubuntu+103:18
MilhousePunkRockrc-update battery add, jann03:18
neonlinuxhi all03:18
neonlinuxwhats the wrapper used to make gtk apps look like kde apps in kubuntu?03:18
MilhousePunkRockif things work like that in kbuntu too03:18
jannMilhousePunkRock: i didnt understand that03:19
jannis that a command line?03:19
MilhousePunkRockon a shell, type "rc-update battery add default"03:19
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jannah ok03:19
MilhousePunkRockjann: Not sure if that works though03:19
jannMilhousePunkRock: rc-update: command not found03:20
MilhousePunkRockjann: maybe with a sudo infront03:20
jannMilhousePunkRock: nope...03:20
MilhousePunkRockjann: OK, things roll differently here then...03:20
jann;)03:21
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jannanybody else03:23
jann?03:23
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malcherjann: in kubuntu, it is calles update-rc.d03:26
malcherrc-update is gentoo (at least it is implemented in gentoo)03:26
jannah03:26
malchersee the help/man page for further instructions03:26
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jannmalcher: but this has to do with acpi?03:27
malcheri don't know... i just saw you weren't finding rc-update :)03:28
malcherbut sry, i have to go now :/03:28
jannok, thanks03:29
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rouxhi03:29
rouxnessuno parla italiano?03:29
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ubuntu__hallo03:31
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MilhousePunkRock!it > roux03:31
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rouxciao amici kubuntisti03:33
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jann#kubuntu-de03:34
jannoops03:34
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DJAnubisman03:35
gissiGood day all. Anyone had problems with Kontact on Feisty? I'm using IMAP and every now and then I get some of my messages are being showed as "No Subject" but using a webmail for example I can read no problem.03:35
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DJAnubisI wonder if that bug that I found last night got reported03:36
grego_my all screensavers dissapeared from screensaver options...03:36
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grego_which package can be responsible for this?03:37
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gissiBoth subject and body are empty on Kontact by displayed on webmail (roundcube)03:37
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VincentMXhi03:37
grego_anyone?03:37
DJAnubishello!03:37
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DJAnubisKonqueror has trouble with php download scripts, as those on http://www.filefront.com reflect03:38
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Mena WHen i do route flush i get (NOt SUPPorettd)03:39
DJAnubisthat needs to be fixed, but I'm going to use ff now03:39
MenaWhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?03:39
PhinnFortDJAnubis: file a bug03:40
Mena :(  :(  :(  :(  :(03:40
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linopilhas anyone succeded doing DVD repos for fast app installing?03:40
PhinnFortMena: stfu, and explain, mkay? ;)03:40
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DJAnubisPhinnFort: where can I do that?/03:41
JuJuBeeCan anybody here assist me with some basic iptables config?  #iptables is dormant...03:41
PhinnFortDJAnubis: either at bugs.launchpad.net or bugs.kde.org03:41
DJAnubiscrap03:41
DJAnubisI have no time, I'm about to leave for florida03:41
PhinnFortJuJuBee: i messed with iptables some time ago, but I don't know more than what is in the man page03:41
Menaok , it i had a problem on my conection on linux and i do some commands and then when i do route flush to reset every thing its says NOT SUPPORTED03:42
PhinnFortDJAnubis: maybe ask someone in #kde to do it?03:42
Menai needed to reset and clear bec i had an error03:42
JuJuBeePhinnFort : if you were successful, then that is more than me...03:42
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MenaSo03:42
PhinnFortMena: sure you're flushing the right interface?03:43
PhinnFortJuJuBee: i was not succesfull, but that was mainly because of a bad NIC03:43
PhinnFort:P03:43
Menaohhh do i must do route flush eth003:43
JuJuBeeI have squid/dansguarding/iptables running on my server.  One of the workstations uses the server as its gateway successfully, but another does not.03:43
EyelessMilhousePunkRock: Unison seems like the best program if you want to synchronize folders between computers03:43
PhinnFortMena: maybe03:43
PhinnFortMena: and remember sudo in front03:43
Menaok03:43
Menabut if didnt work03:44
PhinnFortJuJuBee: isn't that a problem with the client/workstation03:44
Menawhat the heck i suppoded to do ?03:44
Menas*03:44
Menareinstall kubuntu03:44
Menaehhhhhhhh03:44
JuJuBeeThe workstation that is not successful can ping google.com but not http.03:44
PhinnFortMena: reboot should do the same as route flush03:44
PhinnFortMena: could you please explain a bit more?03:44
JuJuBeeI am not blocking google.03:44
Menaheeeeehehe ok03:45
PhinnFortMena: like how do you connect (dhcp, static ip, etc)03:45
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JuJuBeeI can access all web servers in the classroom, but nothing outside.03:45
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Menai usualy use static03:45
PhinnFortJuJuBee: maybe use Wireshark/KSniffer to see what happens03:45
Menalet me tell you i will try the command and if didnt work i will come ok03:45
PhinnFortMena: ok03:45
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Menabec its a bout 10 hours or more more to solve this prolem03:46
Menabeleive me03:46
JuJuBeePhinnFort : I will look into them.03:46
Menai am not kedding03:46
PhinnFortJuJuBee: good luck :)03:46
MenaBRB03:46
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JuJuBeePhinnFort : Do I install those on server?03:46
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PhinnFortJuJuBee: depends03:47
PhinnFortJuJuBee: you should, to see what passes through03:47
linopilhas anyone succeded doing DVD repos for fast app installing?03:47
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PhinnFort!repeat03:47
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience03:47
PhinnFort!botsnack03:47
ubotuYum!03:47
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PhinnFort!iptables | JuJuBee03:48
ubotuJuJuBee: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).03:48
PhinnFortJuJuBee: look there too03:49
Daisuke_Idoso when is the re-merged beryl-compiz going to be added to the feisty repos?  (i'm guessing once they get a package together)03:49
PhinnFortDaisuke_Ido: when they release a merged package maybe?03:49
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Daisuke_Idoyeah, but sometimes it takes a while longer than that :)03:49
PhinnFortDaisuke_Ido: i don't think they've even decided on a name03:49
Daisuke_Idono matter03:50
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hub_hi03:50
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In[d] yHow do I set root's password for MySQL?03:50
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PhinnFort!hi | hub_03:50
ubotuhub_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!03:50
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PhinnFort!mysql03:50
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:50
hub_:)03:50
Daisuke_IdoCoryl :)03:50
PhinnForthub_: ;)03:50
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hub_I installed Kubuntu is this beter than ubuntu ????03:51
PhinnForthub_: in my humble opinion, yes03:51
Daisuke_Idobetter is subjective, but if you prefer kde over gnome, you'll probably enjoy it more03:51
Daisuke_Idoi know i do03:51
PhinnForthub_: the difference between plain ubuntu and Kubuntu, is that Kubuntu comes with KDE as default03:51
PhinnFortand KDE is, as everyone should know by now, superior03:52
hub_i have no Programs in very litle "Add/remove Program" who can i find a good source list ???????03:52
PhinnForthub_: use Adept manager or something instead03:52
PhinnFortit's under "SYstem" i think03:52
janncan i uninstall and reinstall acpi without problems?03:52
hub_*sry for my bad englisch > wat is adept03:53
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PhinnForthub_: Adept is the package manager for Kubuntu03:53
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PhinnFortjann: you should03:53
hub_hmm i look03:53
PhinnFortjann: can't think of a reason it shouldn't work, if you do it without rebooting03:53
PhinnForthub_: you can always hit alt+f2 and type in "kdesu adept_manager"03:54
hub_ok03:54
hub_okay but i installed from a kubuntu "CD"03:55
hub_not DVD03:55
PhinnForthub_: ...and?03:55
dromer_hi all, I just got my external usb-case and put a sata disk in it, connected it and it showes up in lsusb, but no automount, could it be I have the pins set wrong? (should be to master I think)03:55
hub_and wen i add  a programs then is litle bit there03:55
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hub_by ubuntu is very viel.03:55
hub_more*03:55
jannPhinnFort: ok, thanks03:56
PhinnForthub_: what do you mean?03:56
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PhinnForthub_: i'm sorry, my main language isn't english03:56
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PhinnFort!no03:56
ubotuHvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!03:56
hub_wat do you speak ?03:56
PhinnForthub_: norwegian03:57
hub_German ?03:57
PhinnFort:D03:57
hub_:(03:57
hub_^^03:57
jannhub_: do you speak german?03:57
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hub_yes03:57
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jann-> #kubuntu-de03:57
hub_okay thx03:57
SlimGMy 3Com 3crusb20075 wireless usb dongle won't work out-of-box with kubuntu beta install althou the wiki says it should work, it uses the zd1211 driver, anyone got a clue on what I have to do to make it work (ndiswrapper?)?03:59
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PhinnFort!ndiswrapper04:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:00
PhinnFortSlimG: you on amd64?04:00
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hub_bay bay ^^04:00
SlimGPhinnFort: i38604:01
PhinnForthub_: bye;)04:01
PhinnFortok04:01
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SlimGPhinnFort: is ndiswrapper the only solution to that dongle?04:01
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PhinnFortSlimG: i'm not sure04:01
MenaPhinnFort, see this plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13674/04:01
PhinnFortSlimG: edgy?04:02
PhinnFortor feisty=04:02
SlimGFeisty04:02
SlimGthe new beta installation04:03
PhinnFortMena: 192.168.16.1 is your router?04:03
PhinnFortSlimG: ok04:03
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Menayes04:03
PhinnFortMena: then i don't see any problems with your route's04:03
PhinnFortSlimG: did you follow this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%2904:03
Menaokay but i cant conect04:03
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PhinnFortMena: wireless or wired?04:04
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Menawhy although i use same setting for xp and kubuntu04:04
Menawired04:04
Menai am not the router by the way04:04
PhinnFortMena: and youre sure your router isn't blocking certain mac's?04:04
PhinnFortMena: can you ping?04:05
PhinnFort*you're04:05
Menayes the router04:05
PhinnFortMena: how about the interwebs?04:05
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Menai tried to ping google but unkown host04:05
PhinnFortMena: i think your DNS is broken04:06
PhinnFortMena: try pinging 64.233.187.9904:06
PhinnFortit's google04:06
Menayyou mean the numbers or else04:06
Menaok04:06
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PhinnFortMena: DNS is the service that translates addresses like google.com into numbers like 64.233.187.9904:06
Menaok04:07
PhinnFortMena: if it works, can you please look into /etc/resolv.conf04:07
SlimGPhinnFort: I haven't tried ndiswrapper yet since it seems like the zd1211 driver should do the trick, I've found some info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd1211?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29, seems like there's some known fixable error in the driver, I'll have a look at it...04:07
PhinnFortSlimG: can you do "dmesg | grep zd1211"04:08
PhinnFortor just paste the output of dmesg04:08
Menahere http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13677/04:08
kiwi__what audio player plays mp3?04:08
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PhinnFortkiwi__: amarok04:08
PhinnFortor juk04:08
PhinnFortor noatun04:08
PhinnFortnoatun or amarok is recommended04:09
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kiwi__my amarok keeps crashing when i try to play my songs04:09
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PhinnFortkiwi__: ask in #amarok for help, or try another player, like juk or noatun04:09
PhinnFortMena: try pinging 213.131.66.24604:09
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kiwi__kk thnx04:09
taniusachisinau04:09
PhinnFortfrom the b0rked box04:09
PhinnForttaniusa: heh?04:10
Menaok then bec i must to reboot to linux04:10
PhinnFortMena: ah, ok04:10
PhinnFortMena: wait a sec, then04:10
taniusahthfhfhf04:10
Menaok04:10
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PhinnFortMena: get the ip's from http://www.opendns.com/start/ and type them in /etc/resolv.conf if you still can't get connected in Linux04:10
PhinnFortand then try to run "dig google.com" in linux04:11
PhinnFortok?04:11
Menaok04:11
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SlimGPhinnFort: usbcore: registered new interface driver zd1211rw (i believe this is the result from when i modprobed the zd1211rw driver to try make it work)04:11
PhinnFortSlimG: does it work after you modprobe'd it?04:12
PhinnFortSlimG: for some obscure reason, i have to modprobe the module for my wireless card now04:12
MenaPhinnFort, but the dns i use on xp is the as on linux an the he gives me  it but if it was okay to chnge i will04:12
PhinnForteven though it seems to have loaded every other known module in the universe04:12
dromer_can someone tell me what jumper setting I need for my saat disk to be master? (fooling around with my new external-usb-case and first even sata-disk)04:12
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PhinnFortMena: just try to "dig google.com"04:13
PhinnFortit should check the DNS thingies04:13
Menahe>>> router04:13
Menaok04:13
PhinnFortdromer_: sorry, i don't have a sata disk04:13
PhinnFortif you give me one, i'll be happy to help you;)04:13
dromer_hmm, wait, the manual only speaks of IDE jumper needing to be master04:13
PhinnFortbut try to google04:13
dromer_hehe, sure PhinnFort ;)04:13
dromer_PhinnFort: I think I read something about sata not having master/slave since it's connected to the motherboard directly04:14
MilhousePunkRockMena: Still having issues, huh?04:14
dromer_but I'm not sure, and there _is_ a jumper on it ..04:14
SlimGPhinnFort: nope04:15
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PhinnFortSlimG: can you paste the output of dmesg?04:15
PhinnFortjust for my personal amousement04:15
dromer_anyway, my pc did see the usb-case, but didn't mount the drive .. but perhaps it's because the drive isn't formated yet, anybody know what it could be?04:15
Menayes but i gues  it will be solve04:15
PhinnFortdromer_: if it isn't formatted, that's probably it04:16
dromer_hmm, but how could I format it :S04:16
=== ..[topic/#kubuntu:solomon_] : dromer_ did you mount it manually?
dromer_I don't have a sata inteface on my motherboard04:16
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PhinnFortdromer_: mkfs.xfs /dev/sd something04:16
PhinnFortdromer_: try to run "dmesg | grep sd"04:16
dromer_solomon_: you didn't have to change tho topic :P04:17
solomon_haha04:17
PhinnFort:P04:17
dromer_yeah I'm putting the case back together first ;)04:17
solomon_i used /t instead of /msg04:17
solomon_my bad04:17
solomon_getting mirc and bitchx confused04:17
PhinnFort:P04:17
dromer_haha04:17
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PhinnFortsomeone should protect the topic04:18
PhinnFort!ops04:18
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal04:18
PhinnFortprotect the topic, mkay?04:18
apokryphosPhinnFort: please do not abuse that; only use that in emergencies04:18
PhinnFortok...04:19
solomon_i did feel powerful for those few seconds, I admit04:19
PhinnFortdid it set off a loud alarm or something?04:19
solomon_:P04:19
PhinnFort;)04:19
PhinnFortme too04:19
solomon_hehe04:19
MenaPhinnFort, i will try now :) , Sorry i was busy04:19
PhinnFortMena: np;)04:19
MenaOk04:19
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apokryphosPhinnFort: yes04:20
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apokryphosand we won't lock the topic (people can generally be trusted in here)04:20
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PhinnFortapokryphos: i'm sorry, then04:20
PhinnForto04:20
PhinnFortk04:20
apokryphos!enter | PhinnFort04:20
ubotuPhinnFort: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:20
MenaBrB04:20
dromer_PhinnFort: ok, dmesg gives back some things04:20
viowhere can i dl open source drivers for a ati 9700 mobility?04:20
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vioaka "radeon" drivers04:20
PhinnFortapokryphos: bad keyboard...:P04:21
vio!beryl04:21
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:21
PhinnFortdromer_: can you paste them?04:21
PhinnFort!paste | dromer_04:21
ubotudromer_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)04:21
dromer_ubuntu-nl \o/04:21
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PhinnFort:P04:21
PhinnFortyou don't like ze netherlands?04:21
dromer_hehe, I live there ;)04:22
dromer_hence the \o/04:22
PhinnFortah, ok;)04:22
dromer_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13681/04:22
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PhinnFortdromer_: to format it, using xfs, do "mkfs.xfs /dev/sda1"04:22
dromer_I think I want to format it FAT32 so I can use it both on windows as wel as on linux04:23
PhinnFortmkfs.vfat then04:23
vioany1?04:23
dromer_ok, thnx PhinnFort04:23
dromer_sorry vio, only nvidia here ;)04:23
PhinnFortvio: your installation should come with open source drivers as default04:23
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dromer_PhinnFort: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory04:24
HobbseePhinnFort: everything OK/04:24
Hobbsee?04:24
jhutchins!ati | vio04:24
ubotuvio: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:24
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Daisuke_Idokillall amarok04:29
Daisuke_Idomeh, sorry about that, focus-stealing :\04:29
dromer_haha04:29
dromer_why kill amarok? :(04:29
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Daisuke_Idohaving problems launching04:30
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PhinnFortbad amarok04:30
Daisuke_Idoah.  there we go04:30
dromer_PhinnFort: read my error?04:30
PhinnFortnope04:31
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PhinnFortdromer_: i disappeared04:31
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dromer_ok, didn't notice :P (think I have parts/joins disabled on this channel ;)04:31
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Levo_75Hello04:31
PhinnFortLevo_75: hi04:31
dromer_16:24.25 < dromer_> PhinnFort: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory04:31
dromer_hi Levo_7504:31
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PhinnFortdromer_: do "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda" first then04:31
PhinnFort!hi | Levo_7504:32
ubotuLevo_75: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:32
dromerPhinnFort: hmm, I've never used cfdisk before04:32
Levo_75Ugh.. I just installed Kubuntu ( first time linux user) and i can't seem to be able to play mp304:32
PhinnFortdromer: it's easy04:32
PhinnFortdromer: you could also install qtparted and use it instead04:32
dromerLevo_75: yes you need to install the drivers for it first!04:32
Levo_75How gay04:33
dromer!mp3 | Levo_7504:33
ubotuLevo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:33
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PhinnFortLevo_75: i think amarok should pop up a message asking to help you04:33
Levo_75Thatk you!04:33
dromerLevo_75: yes, it's one of the weaknesses of ubuntu ;)04:33
Levo_75*thnx04:33
PhinnFortLevo_75: i think the next version of ubuntu is fixing this (hopefully Kubuntu too)04:33
Levo_75It does feel alot faster then winxp04:34
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dromerPhinnFort: not sure which filesystem to use though, W95 FAT32 or W95 FAT32 (LBA) ?04:34
dromerLevo_75: it _is_ !04:34
PhinnFortdromer: LBA04:34
PhinnFortif you want it bigger than 4GB or something04:34
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dromerPhinnFort: aah, right, it's a 200gb disk ;)04:35
Daisuke_Ido32gb (afaik), though fat32 can't handle individual files larger than 4gb04:35
PhinnFortdromer: then it's lba;)04:35
PhinnFortDaisuke_Ido: LBA04:35
PhinnFortdromer: there are some04:35
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PhinnFortnever got the hang of them though04:35
Daisuke_IdoPhinnFort: right, this is without LBA04:35
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vio!beryl04:35
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:35
PhinnFort!vj04:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:35
PhinnFortdromer: tried lives?04:36
PhinnFort!lives04:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:36
PhinnFortfsck you, ubotu04:36
dromerPhinnFort: no idea what that is04:36
Daisuke_Ido!info lives04:36
dromerok, and the bootable flag?04:36
ubotuPackage lives does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas04:36
PhinnForthttp://lives.sourceforge.net/04:36
Daisuke_Idoaww04:36
PhinnFort!remember lives http://lives.sourceforge.net/04:36
Levo_75So i have to convert my entire 40 gb database of mp3 into ogg vorbis?04:36
PhinnFort!remember lives is http://lives.sourceforge.net/04:36
dromerLevo_75: ofcaurse not04:36
PhinnFortdromer: don't enable it04:36
Daisuke_IdoLevo_75: nope04:36
Levo_75ok04:36
dromerPhinnFort: ok04:36
Daisuke_Idoinstall libxine-extracodecs (from universe) and you'll be good to go04:37
dromerPhinnFort: aah for VJ-ing, no haven't tried it yet, though it doesn't look supreme like OpenTZT is ;)04:37
Daisuke_Idoanother new version of xorg...04:37
PhinnFortdromer: also, look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VJ_Software04:37
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Daisuke_Ido!libxine-extracodecs > Levo_7504:37
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dromerPhinnFort: yeah I've skimmed over it a few times, found a greatlooking ap somewhere, but couldn't compile it :S (and everything was in spanish :S )04:38
dromerok, /me create partition now ;)04:38
Levo_75http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libmad0 this correct?04:38
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PhinnFortdromer: :P04:38
Daisuke_IdoLevo_75: that's part of the libxine-extracodecs package04:38
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Daisuke_Idobut yes, that's the mp3 decoder04:39
dromerPhinnFort: ok, I think cfdisk is done now, what do I do now?04:39
PhinnFortdromer: write changes and exit04:39
dromeryes did it04:39
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PhinnFortdromer: then mkfs.vfat /dev/sda104:39
dromerok, and why do I need to do this again?04:39
PhinnFortdromer: first you create partitions, then you format them04:40
Daisuke_Idoanywho, yet another new version of xorg, who knows if it's going to work properly right off :\04:40
dromerah ok, but cfdisk already made the partition as FAT32 (LBA) didn't it?04:40
loader007hello i have install this driver for my gforce grafic chip it is nvidia NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run after the install boot my kde at the system is running ok after the reboot i must install new it then the boot from xserver is fail  what can i do for fix this bug04:40
Daisuke_Idomade, not formatted :)04:40
endyhi04:40
PhinnFortdromer: it didn't format it04:40
dromerPhinnFort: ah ok, it's still FAT32 (LBA) now?04:40
dromerok, now for mounting :)04:40
PhinnFortdromer: after you format it04:40
PhinnFortdromer: yeah;)04:41
Daisuke_Idoloader007: what card are you using?04:41
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dromerPhinnFort: or could I try and toke it out/put it back in the usb-port and automount will detect it now?04:41
Daisuke_Idoand i'm struggling to make sense of the last part of that comment04:41
PhinnFortdromer: hopefully;)04:41
loader007its a gefore go 760004:42
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Daisuke_Ido!nvidia > loader00704:42
dromerPhinnFort: w000t, automount got it :D04:42
PhinnFortdromer: great:D:D:D04:42
PhinnFort!smileyabuse | PhinnFort04:42
Daisuke_Idolol04:43
dromerPhinnFort: now to get everything off my old ntfs-partition, make it ext3 and put everything back on it :S04:43
loader007yes nvidia04:43
PhinnFortdromer: sounds like fun04:43
Daisuke_Idoloader007: follow the directions at that link, loader00704:43
Levo_75Where can i see what my pc stats are, like in windows xp you can see the cpu and ram usage when you press ctrl alt del04:43
PhinnFortLevo_75: KInfoCenter04:43
PhinnFortLevo_75: under System04:43
Levo_75thnx04:44
dromerPhinnFort: hehe, really I should get a new pc with sata interface and reportition my entire hd :S this one is a mess :S (with too many primary partitions)04:44
loader007kernel modul not fout driver not fount it save not i think04:44
PhinnFortdromer: same here... I'm going to buy a new laptop in the summer, and an external terabyte disk:D04:44
PhinnFortit should be fun04:45
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dromerPhinnFort: nice, I wih I had money for a laptop, would make VJ-ing a hell of alot easier :P04:45
PhinnFortdromer: I'm saving to afford it;)04:45
dromerhmz, I thought it was a 200gb disk, it only shows up as 189,9 gb :(04:46
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PhinnFortdromer: someone fooled you;)04:46
bronze_0_1dromer: in which utility?04:46
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Menaehhhhaa04:46
dromerPhinnFort: I don't have any income (no job, only student-support-thingy, barely enough to live from ;) )04:46
MenaPhinnFort, i guess i will reinstall kubuntu04:46
dromerbronze_0_1: konqueror properties04:46
Menabec of this small small issue04:46
dromerMena: why?04:46
bronze_0_1dromer:  its correct.04:46
loader007how can i save all moment using settings04:46
PhinnFortdromer: time to find a job?;)04:47
bronze_0_1dromer: There is some overhead associated with creating afile system on the disk04:47
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dromerPhinnFort: heh, yeah :( though I don't have that much time (busy student-life ;) )04:47
dromerbronze_0_1: damn, and that's 11gb worth? o.O04:47
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Menadromer, ehhh i realy get tired from telling this porblem to every one agian and agian and .....etc04:48
PhinnFortyeah, i see;)04:48
dromeror is the 200gb in bits?04:48
dromerMena: ok n/m then ;)04:48
PhinnFortMena: what did dig google.com say?04:48
MenaThanks04:48
bronze_0_1dromer: yup.  Inodes and stuff. all precreated sao tha tthe entire rest of the drive can be used04:48
Mena:)04:48
bronze_0_1*pre-created so04:48
MenaPhinnFort, timed out04:48
Menadidnt conect to it04:48
dromerok, weird stuff, hope I can get it all on the disk then :P04:48
PhinnFortMena: could you ping it?04:48
PhinnFortthe dns?04:48
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Menaohhh i fogot to ping it04:49
Menaforgot*04:49
PhinnFort:P04:49
Menabut what this will do04:49
PhinnFortMena: did you try to replace with the other DNS's?04:49
Menaif i cant even ping google !04:49
Menayes i did04:49
PhinnFortMena: and still no fun?04:49
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Menano no no at allllllllllllllllllllll ehhh04:49
Menaehhh ehhh ehhh04:49
PhinnFortMena: what is in your resolv.conf now?04:50
loader007#kubuntu-de04:50
Menasec04:50
Menanameserver 208.67.222.22204:51
Menanameserver 208.67.220.22004:51
MenaThis is the new one04:51
PhinnForthmmm04:51
PhinnFortMena: have you tried using DHCP?04:51
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MenaPhinnFort, many times befor but not this time04:51
Menabe i used to conect with static04:52
PhinnFortMena: does it work with dhcp?04:52
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Menatimes befor now04:52
Menano*04:52
dromerhmm, weird, automount finds the usb-drive, but there is no umount-option in konqueror>r-mouse-button04:52
PhinnFortdromer: try going to "media:/"04:52
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Menai will install edgy then i will wait till full fiesty ehhhhh after all thi ssomething like this miss up all04:53
dromerPhinnFort: ahhh right, thnx, forgot about that :$04:53
crazy_busI was doing something in the terminal and then it came up with a message on a blackscreen with the two lines message at the bottom.  How can I get back to all the previous messages to read them?04:54
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PhinnFortcrazy_bus: try holding shift and apply pressure to the "up" key04:54
MenaThanks PhinFort04:54
MenaThanks all04:54
PhinnFortnp04:54
MenaGod Bless you all04:55
MenaBye!04:55
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PhinnFortGod bless you too04:55
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ubuntuHi people. please i need help quick... i today rearranged my from the montherboard.... but now grub loads up..bbut when i select a installiation to login ito it wont boot up the operating system??? im dualbooting WIndows XP and Kubuntu04:57
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Smurphy[ACS] ubuntu: calm down first - then rearticulate your question please. didn't get it ...04:58
PhinnFortubuntu: are your cables correctly order thingy?04:58
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Smurphy[ACS] ubuntu: What ? is not working ?04:59
vio!beryl04:59
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:59
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crazy_busthanks PF-Away04:59
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Levo_75Beryl looks pretty fucking awesome05:03
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ubuntuHi guys, today i rearranged my hardrives physically from ide cables... anyways now i get no grub on bootup and so i put in my livecd, i did find /root/grub/stage1 and said its on hd0 , so i root (hd0,0) and now grub boots up and shows Kubuntu and Windows XP ... however when i choose any of them nothing boots up05:04
russ33allo05:04
ubuntuplease hellp05:04
ubuntusorry for the bad english05:05
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MilhousePunkRock!language | Levo_7505:06
ubotuLevo_75: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:06
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ubuntuHi guys, today i rearranged my hardrives physically from ide cables... anyways now i get no grub on bootup and so i put in my livecd, i did find /root/grub/stage1 and said its on hd0 , so i root (hd0,0) and now grub boots up and shows Kubuntu and Windows XP ... however when i choose any of them nothing boots up05:08
MilhousePunkRockubuntu: If noone knows how to help you, repeating your question over and over again won't bring you far...05:08
russ33might be the jumpers on the back of the hard drive itself05:08
ubunturuss33: ?05:09
ubuntuit was working before05:09
russ33one was master, and one was slave05:09
ubuntuyes..05:09
russ33yeah but youve swopped them round..05:09
russ33also cold reset your bios05:09
ubuntubut now i rearrange them, since on of them is PIO mode and was slowing other HD down05:09
firecrotc1russ33: They could be on "cable select"05:09
russ33because your bios may still think they are the same way round05:09
russ33maybe, just an idea05:09
russ33ive had similar issues before05:10
ubuntuso i should reset bios to default?05:10
ubuntutry again?05:10
firecrotc1ubuntu: all you have to do it use a live CD to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst05:10
russ33if you change Hd cables over the bios wont recognise it until you do a reset of the bios05:10
ubuntui am on a live cd now05:10
russ33no dont set it to default - you have to manually flash the bios05:10
ubuntufirecrotc1: can you walk me through it please05:10
ubuntuone second let me open that file05:10
russ33usually by a jumper on the motherboard05:10
russ33sorry - not flash it - wrong wording :p05:10
soulrider_ubuntu: please,change your nick, its gonna eb a lot easier to answer05:11
ubuntufirecrotc1: that file /boot/grub/menu.lst is empty05:11
russ33actually - first try going into your bios and re-detecting your HD's05:11
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soulrider_ubuntu: what error do you get exactky ?05:12
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jackson_mwell no error05:12
jackson_mit says Starting up....05:12
jackson_mand nothing happens05:12
soulrider_i see05:12
russ33maybe its wot firecrotc1 said :)05:12
jackson_mfor both windows XP and kubuntu05:12
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russ33sounded like a prob ive had in the past tho thats all05:12
soulrider_well, grub is working fine then i guess05:12
jackson_mwell i opened that file /boot/grub/menu.lst ... its empty.. how should i edit it05:12
soulrider_maybe you screwed up the installations05:13
soulrider_the kernel might be looking for the files int he wrong partition05:13
jackson_mit was working 10 minutes ago untill i switched the hd's around05:13
firecrotc1jackson_m: are you sure you're opening the one from the hard drive?05:13
jackson_moh05:13
jackson_mno05:13
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jackson_mhow do i open from harddrive?05:13
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soulrider_jackson_m: try swaping the cabled back and see if ti works fine05:13
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jackson_mit works fine05:13
jackson_mbut i dont want it that way05:14
soulrider_uhm05:14
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firecrotc1jackson_m: mount the drive, then find the file05:14
soulrider_i think that could be the problem05:14
jackson_mbecause its an old hd on same channel as a new one.. so they boith are stuck on PIO mode05:14
jackson_mwhich is damn slow05:14
soulrider_at least for kubuntu, i dont think you can do that05:14
soulrider_since allt he partition names will change05:14
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jackson_mfirecrotc1: how do i open that file from HD if im on a livecd?05:15
firecrotc1jackson_m: what live CD are you using? A ubuntu one, or Knoppix, or what?05:15
jackson_mKubuntu05:15
newtokubuntuhey im trying to install nx .. says i need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.205:15
jackson_m6.1005:15
newtokubuntuhow do i sintall that?05:16
newtokubuntuerr install05:16
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soulrider_newtokubuntu: youre not installing from the repos are you?05:16
soulrider_newtokubuntu: you know about the repos right ?05:16
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jackson_mfirecrotc1: ??05:16
firecrotc1jackson_m: Open Konqueror, and put media:/ in the address bar, the hard drive should show up there05:17
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comp05nick serii05:17
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BluesKajnewtokubuntu, it's in synaptic , if you have the right repos05:17
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Xehhttp://www.voinaroz.lv/?auk=2i1i18g2oxz Check it out ;)05:17
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jackson_mmedia:/ no such file or directory05:18
jackson_min disk manager i see the partition as /dev/hda1 ...05:18
jackson_mi think i just need to mount it05:18
soulrider_newtokubuntu: it would be a GOOD idea for you to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware it explains how software is installed on ubuntu05:18
jackson_mbut how? i forget im a noob05:18
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firecrotc1jackson_m: mount /dev/hda1 /somefolder05:19
jackson_mroot@ubuntu:~# mount /dev/hda1 /drive05:19
jackson_mmount: mount point /drive does not exist05:19
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smilehi linuxians05:20
dac_can this be read?05:20
firecrotc1jackson_m: you need to make the folder that you're mountign it to05:20
smilehow to get MacOS icones in kubuntu ?05:20
soulrider_jackson_m: you need to create the folder first05:20
jackson_mok done..05:20
soulrider_smile: download a pack of icons and in the control center go to apearance > icons05:20
fuelsmile: check out http://kde-look.org05:20
firecrotc1jackson_m: once you have it mounted, just go to the folder that you mounted it to05:21
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smilesoulrider_: where can i find this pack ?05:21
dac_tell me something,please05:21
fuelsmile: under the icon section05:21
soulrider_smile: try http://kde-look.org05:21
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sdlnxgkanyone have issues with Edgy while trying to share files?05:22
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fuelsmile : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Aqua_Project?content=5512005:22
soulrider_sdlnxgk: with a windows PC ?05:22
sdlnxgkeither05:22
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soulrider_uhm05:23
sdlnxgkI can't even share it's all gray05:23
soulrider_maybe you got a firewall in your router thats not letting you share via the internet05:23
sdlnxgklike something is missing but not sure what05:23
soulrider_but you might wanna read this :05:23
soulrider_!samba | sdlnxgk05:23
ubotusdlnxgk: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:23
smilefuel: the dwnload link dont work05:23
sdlnxgksamba is working and up and running05:23
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fuelsmile : it works http://www.deviantart.com/download/51449438/05:24
sdlnxgksoulrider_, let me rephrase... the problem is I can't share a directory05:24
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soulrider_ahh i see05:25
soulrider_uhm, you know, i never tried ot share one =/05:26
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soulrider_check out the forums, someone probably tried before and asked05:26
soulrider_theres tons of info there05:26
smilefuel: that link dont work too05:26
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fuelsmile: your connection is flawed.05:26
fueli am downloading it right now05:27
fuelor lets try another icon set wait05:27
sdlnxgkonly reason I do is because my cell phone holds some MP3's so when I ride my motorcycle and I grap them from the laptop which has xp on it05:27
smilefuel: really ?05:27
fuelsmile: why dont you try browsing the website link i gave you ?05:27
fuelit has so many icon sets ....05:27
smilefuel: i'll try05:28
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smilefuel: i tried http://www.deviantart.com but nothing ?!05:29
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fuelsmile: try http://kde-look.org05:29
newtokubuntusorry i was afk05:29
newtokubuntuAnd no i am not installing from the repros ..  NX needs 04/03/07<br>05:29
newtokubuntu8:24:00 AM - PST05:29
newtokubuntu<br>Southern California Outage<br>05:29
newtokubuntu<br> Some End users routing out of the Covad network in Southern California Are currently unable to connect to the internet at this time.05:29
newtokubuntu<br> Engineers are aware of the issue and are currently working on a resolution.05:29
newtokubuntu<br>05:29
newtokubuntuThere is no estimated time of repair at this time<br>05:29
newtokubuntuwhoops05:29
newtokubuntuhahaha05:29
newtokubuntusorry guys05:29
newtokubuntu:))05:29
newtokubuntucan u tell im @ work lol05:29
fuelnewtokubuntu: dont paste here05:29
fuelx(05:29
newtokubuntuyea i didnt mean to05:29
newtokubuntuI was trying to paste the lib i need05:29
smilefuel: i tried the link in http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Glossy_Project?content=55119 but nothing too !05:29
newtokubuntuI can not get nx installed05:30
fuelsmile : then i dont know what the problem is . try a different browser05:30
newtokubuntuNeeds libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ... how would i go about installing this LIB05:30
firecrotchHow can I find the GID of a group from the command line?05:30
fuelor try pinging the website through konsole05:30
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smilefuel: i used konqueror & firefox05:30
dromer!pixbuf05:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pixbuf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:30
fuelsmile: then the problem must be with your connection.05:31
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fuelbe sure to configure your browsers properly.05:31
smilemy connexion is fine .. i can open other page05:31
smilefuel: all protocols are fine !05:31
fuelsmile: really strange ...05:31
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smilefuel: yea05:31
fuelsmile: probably you could check out those websites later .05:31
smilefuel: maybe05:32
smilefuel: the ping of http://www.deviantart.com dont work too05:32
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dromerhi all, I'm trying to get all dependencies for LiVES figured out, but I'm not sure wha libmjpegtools I need ( the -dev or the 0c2a package)05:34
newtokubuntuNeeds libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ... how would i go about installing this LIB ?05:35
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logicushey05:35
logicusi a new n00b05:36
logicus:-)05:36
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logicushas anyone installed the new feisty05:36
dromernewtokubuntu: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.205:36
dromerlogicus: if your a newb, don't install feisty05:36
jhutchinslogicus: Feisty is #ubuntu+105:36
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logicusah.. yes.. i thought a much05:37
logicusbetter wait05:37
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dromerlogicus: feisty is testing, current stable is edgy05:37
newtokubuntuwhen i try to install i get libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 has no installation candidate05:37
newtokubuntuedgy rules :))05:37
dromernewtokubuntu: hmm, that sucks05:37
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logicusthanks :-)05:37
newtokubuntui tried that a while ago didnt work heh05:37
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jhutchins!find libstdc++05:37
ubotuFound: libstdc++5, libstdc++5-3.3-dev, libstdc++6, libstdc++6-4.1-dbg, libstdc++6-4.1-dev (and 16 others)05:37
jhutchins!findglibc05:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about findglibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:38
jhutchins!find glibc05:38
ubotuFound: glibc-doc-reference, libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, glibc-doc, libc6 (and 1 others)05:38
jhutchins!info libstdc++2.10-glibc2.205:38
ubotulibstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: The GNU stdc++ library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.95.4-24 (edgy), package size 321 kB, installed size 1352 kB05:38
jhutchinsnewtokubuntu: My guess would be you don't have universe enabled.05:39
newtokubuntuhow would i go about enabling it05:39
sdlnxgkanyone have issues with doing upgrades on open office??05:40
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jhutchinsnewtokubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories05:40
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sdlnxgksoulrider_, I really feel bad now I guess samba didn't install right when I first did it and now after reinstalling it it's working ;)05:44
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newtokubuntusweet it was just commented out05:48
newtokubuntu:) yay05:48
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budcan one get shisen-sho game kubuntu?05:48
tuxget it with apt-get bud05:50
tuxsudo apt-get install kshisen05:50
newtokubuntuw00t.. i just got nx installed w00t to the w00t :))05:50
budok05:50
tuxif you type 'sudo apt-get install kshisen' it will be installed automaticly05:51
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budok,thanks05:51
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tuxi get a error all the time at konqueror now05:51
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tuxhm and now i want to look for the error and i dont get any errors05:52
smilehow tried Koffice ?05:52
budthanks tux05:52
tuxim installing it now to bud05:52
tuxsee if it's any fun05:52
budthank you05:53
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tuxhm, looks addicting that shisen game05:53
smileis here anyone how tried Koffice ??05:53
budi'm gone05:53
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tuxi only use openoffice smile05:54
smiletux: me too .. but i want know if Koffice is better that Openoffice or no !05:54
tuxok05:54
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tuxyou reminded me i had to fix a file and put it on a FTP smile, tnx :p05:56
smiletux: really ?? .. welcome :-)05:57
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tuxthat wasnt really hard to do, remind me.. just ask a question :D05:57
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budtux, it isn't there yet, also there's no item for games on my Kmenu06:00
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Levo_75Guys i fail at installing the extra codecs06:01
melkorAlright I"m in a bit of a bind with feisty06:01
melkormy laptop doesn't have any thing now, sound card mouse, wireless card.06:02
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budtime for lunch06:03
moby_pythonhow would I reconfigure the kernel?06:03
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TBagDoes anyone know if this channel is logged anywhere?06:03
jhutchinsTBag: I doubt it, that would be a pretty massive log.06:04
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookis there any way to set my motd to report uptime and current path?06:05
knappDoes anyone know if there is a fix for the mp3 dialogue bug in Amarok? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/5861706:05
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samir85Hey guys. How can I add a task to kcron so that it is executed everytime the computer boots ?06:07
TBaghttp://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/06:07
TBagSurpirse.06:07
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smilesamir85: je pense t arabe !06:07
cox377just a question, if i have linux on an old machine and had a really large HDD on it say 500gb could i potentially have issues the same as in windows of on reconizing 133gb?06:08
samir85na i'm not arab, im iranian @ smile ^06:08
smilewelcome Muslim friend :-)06:08
itch^Hello people. I have a little problem. I`ve installed the nVidia driver in Kubuntu, and now, each time I start my coputer, my refresh rate it`s set to 60 Hz. If I try to modify the refresh rate from the Monitor section of System Settings, the maximum value I can se it`s 79 Hz. Now I know for sure that my monitor can du 1280X1024@100 Hz, but how cand I persuate it to do so?06:08
samir85thanks.,06:08
smileu can do that with Gnome06:08
t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: you can try to set the defaults laso06:09
samir85yeah, but im using kubuntu06:09
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: by, from command line, running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:09
t3hwiz0rd-ibookand set your default refresh rate to higher06:09
smilesamir85: sorry I didnt use Kcron before06:09
samir85ok, nevermind ...06:09
Levo_75I can't see gif images?06:09
Levo_75Wtf?06:09
t3hwiz0rd-ibookLevo_75: well nice going man06:10
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Levo_75At failing?06:10
itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : I`ve already added the corect vertical and hoz. values to xorg.conf. Still no good.06:10
Levo_75Yeas06:10
Levo_75*yes06:10
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: thats odd cos the only thing that i can recall doing that is that xorg is being overwritten on boot with the "correct" configuration. did you change it by running the dpkg-reconfigure command? cos if you change xorg in kubuntu it sometimes will change itself back to default.06:11
itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Should I mention that the only way I can set my refresh rate it`s via the Nvidia Settings apllication ?06:11
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: hmmm.. sounds like a xorg issue to me really06:11
t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: how did you modify xorg?06:12
t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: just in say vim or another editor?06:12
ohmbrhi, how do i change the charset from utf-8 to iso 8859-1?06:12
itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : when i boot, I go to the nVidia Setting app. and set my rez. to 85 Hz. The only problem is that the configuration doesent` preserv. The next time I boot I have to do it all over again.06:13
t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: right. but how did you append this information to xorg? did you do it manually?06:13
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itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : I`ve tryid reconfiguring xserver-org by dpkg, editing it by hand. But no good.06:13
knappDoes anyone know if there is a fix for the mp3 dialogue bug in Amarok? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/5861706:13
t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: thats odd......06:13
t3hwiz0rd-ibookgive me a second to boot into linux06:14
itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Yup. I know.06:14
itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Sure06:14
t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: does the resolution show in your xorg configuration at all?06:14
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itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : The maximum value displayed it`s 85 Hh06:14
hub_hello06:15
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hub_i search a how to for my radeon 9200 se06:15
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samir85Hey, anybody here who has experience with kcron ?06:15
jhutchins!ati | hub_06:15
ubotuhub_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:15
itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Damn. I think I`ve missunderstood the question. Can you pls reformulate ?06:15
hub_is that with 3d06:15
aaroncampbellI'm wondering if someone could lend me a hand building a printer driver.  Before I used redhat, and Konica Minolta supplies rpms (or .tar.gz http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ).  This is what I get when I try to ./configure : http://paste-bin.com/1131906:16
aaroncampbellI assume I need other packages installed, but I'm not sure what06:16
aaroncampbellThere *is* a /debian directory in that .tar.gz, but it doesn't contain a .deb ...it has a couple Makefiles, etc...and I'm not sure what to do with it06:16
jhutchinshub_: If 3d is available, yes.  You may also want to see beryl:06:16
moby_pythonany suggestions.  I don't have a sound card or mouse.  Last night it worked and this morning they don't I think it has to do with upgrades to the kernel06:16
jhutchins!beryl | hub_06:16
ubotuhub_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:16
ohmbrhow do i change the charset from utf-8 to iso 8859-1?06:16
hub_yes beryl but my driver must go^^06:16
t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: you may have stumbled on a bug i think06:17
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbecause itch^, mine reverts as well.. however, it reverts to what i keep it at so i enver noticed06:17
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itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Will it help if you take a look at my xorg.conf file ?06:18
MilhousePunkRockmoby_python: Try running an apt-get dist-upgrade from a Live CD06:18
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookitch^: you can paste it to a pastebin but if you're using the dpkg-reconfigure, its really hard to say that you've done anything wrong06:18
jhutchinsMilhousePunkRock: Um, seriously, how is a live CD supposed to update it's sofware?06:19
hub_hmm when this driver work i happy =)06:19
MilhousePunkRockjhutchins: mount and chroot06:19
itch^t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Here`s the link to my pastebin: http://pastebin.4programmers.net/176906:19
hub_NO_PUBKEY A714EB87D1B1F41506:19
hub_????06:19
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moby_pythonLive CD?06:20
hub_i must aktuality my source list but wie ?06:20
MilhousePunkRockhub, do you know about the existance of #kubuntu-de ? you seem to be struggling a bit... ;-)06:21
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itch__t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Did you said something? Cuz I disconnected :(06:24
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookiNiku: i can't see anything signifigently incorrect with the xorg config06:25
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itch__clear06:25
linopilhowtoinstall xen virtualization on ubuntu06:25
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moby_pythonwell now none of the kernels that I can select from grub will load the root file system, so it looks like I might have to reboot the system06:26
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Vixlahttp://www.voinaroz.lv/?auk=2i1i18g2oxz   Go in :) Check for prizes ;)06:30
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newtokubuntucan you install beryl with just nvida drivers or do u need to use aiglx /  xgl ?06:35
t3hwiz0rd-ibookxgl is just the xserver06:36
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newtokubuntusame with aiglx?06:36
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookmmhmm06:36
HymnToLifeno06:36
HymnToLifeAIGLX is js a layer on top of Xorg06:36
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HymnToLifewhile XGL is a completely different X server06:36
newtokubuntuahh .. so i need both.. sorry im a n3wb06:36
t3hwiz0rd-ibookyou need to have the nvidia drivers to run beryl or xgl in general06:36
HymnToLifeno06:36
atidemciao06:36
HymnToLifeyou need either one06:36
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eagles0513875anyone know how i can improve my framerates in world of warcraft06:37
t3hwiz0rd-ibooknewtokubuntu: otherwise it'll likely crash06:37
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HymnToLifeeagles0513875, buy a better graphics card06:37
t3hwiz0rd-ibookhahahahaha06:37
eagles0513875wish i could its a laptop06:37
t3hwiz0rd-ibookeagles0513875: or make sure wine is configured properly06:37
eagles0513875its integrated06:37
t3hwiz0rd-ibookew06:38
t3hwiz0rd-ibookintel integrated?06:38
eagles0513875is there a way i can disable d3d06:38
eagles0513875ati integrated06:38
t3hwiz0rd-ibookif its ati you can still upgrade it06:38
t3hwiz0rd-ibookit just takes some craftiness06:38
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eagles0513875its integrated though06:38
sreckoeagles0513875: lower resolution, lower colors, disable landscape :)06:39
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bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: in a laptop? Upgrade from ati card? how? I'd love to upgrade my radeon 9000 to nvidia-anything....06:39
sreckoeagles0513875: look for optimisations on internet06:39
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: depends on if they solder it to the board or not06:39
t3hwiz0rd-ibookmy asus isn't soldered so i can replacei t06:39
sreckoif it's integrated, you get one that isnt, if I'm right...06:40
c1|freakyI love kubuntu :D06:40
srecko...06:40
eagles0513875wine optimisations06:40
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: so check your laptop model and see if you have the ability to06:41
bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: interesting.... i should look inside my dell06:41
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: some dells can do it :-)06:41
bipolar600m?06:41
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moby_pythonokay I have feisty on my laptop, but it wont boot.  I have a breezy cd and I can boot from that, can I reconfigure feisty from a shell?06:41
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sreckoOk, anyone here running kubuntu in vmware ?06:42
newtokubuntuI got another question. I need to physically load my wifi program and start my card on boot..06:42
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: not sure exactly which ones but i know the d820 can be06:42
c1|freakycan i find the logo from kubuntu (feisty) somewhere so i can put it on my website?06:42
t3hwiz0rd-ibookit uses a quadro tho, ewwy for gaming06:42
newtokubuntuwith out loggin in is there a way to have it login to my wifi ?06:42
underdog5004I need help getting my philips hdd082 2Gb mp3 player to be recognized correctly. Right now, kubuntu is seeing it as a camera, and I can't do anything with it...06:42
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titovhi all...wondering if someone knows how I can install domainname command on kubuntu06:44
titovor what repos is it part of?06:44
soulrider_ !domainname06:44
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about domainname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:44
voicuif am logged in through ssh how can i start an X program that displays on the local machine?06:44
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: though now i am intrigued... why would you buy a dell? lol06:44
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soulrider_=/ you might wanna look int he forums06:44
HymnToLife!find domainname06:45
bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: they are inexpensive and most of them have good linux support :)06:45
t3hwiz0rd-ibookvoicu: you can use -X to forward X applications06:45
t3hwiz0rd-ibookor you can use NX to launch an rdp-like desktop06:45
ubotuFile domainname found in gnulib, hostname, nis06:45
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: so does asus tho :-)06:45
HymnToLifetitov, ^^06:45
bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: eh.... ;)06:45
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: and they're much more reliable little boxen :-)06:45
titovok let me check that out06:46
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: if i had the money to piss away i'd buy a nice big lenovo06:46
voicut3hwiz0rd-ibook: that's for ssh, right?06:46
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bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: me too06:46
t3hwiz0rd-ibookvoicu: yes but launching a full kde desktop is very unstable thru that06:46
voicuok, thanks06:46
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: except they use intel integrated... and i do play video games like a fiend.06:46
voicui just need a few programs06:46
ligeti_test06:46
t3hwiz0rd-ibookvoicu: sure, just during SSH login run -X <program name>06:47
t3hwiz0rd-ibookvoicu: i used to do it at work to chat on gaim without getting caught ;-)06:47
voicuhehe06:47
voicunice06:47
bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: looks like it's solderd onto the mb06:47
bipolar:((06:47
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: ahh then upgrading isn't really a posibility06:47
bipolarnope06:48
t3hwiz0rd-ibooktho i have heard dell mobos are generally interchangable.. have you just looked into buying a dell mobo with a larger gpu?06:48
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bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: not really... probbly not worth the effort :\06:48
titovhmmm...I can't find the domainname in that link06:48
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titovdo u know which repos it is part of?06:49
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: or looked into a new laptop?06:49
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: i just bought a new asus, one of their smaller 14 inch ones, thats quite a little beast for its size06:49
bipolart3hwiz0rd-ibook: looked? yep :P06:49
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookbipolar: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834220157 << not badly priced on there either :-P06:50
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Hrontoreall right i need help trouble shooting the ati binary driver06:51
=== t3hwiz0rd-ibook ducks from the Ati word
bentob0xI'd like to have some applications on different desktops without showing them on my Taskbar if I'm not on that desktop06:52
t3hwiz0rd-ibookHrontore: my virgin nvidia ears! :-P06:52
Hrontorelol06:52
MinceR:D06:52
bentob0xbasically, only the applications that are on the desktop are showing on the taskbar06:52
Hrontoret3gwizOrd-ibook: my virgin wallet06:53
t3hwiz0rd-ibookHrontore: what about your wallet? lol06:53
t3hwiz0rd-ibookim confused06:53
t3hwiz0rd-ibookHrontore: you can't thro fast ones on me, im naturally blonde.06:53
Hrontoret3hwizOrd-ibook: the card was cheap, im cheap...06:53
BluesKajHrontore, try 'Envy" ...it worked for me with my ATI drivers ...it's a bit risky but it's the best solution I've found so far.06:53
t3hwiz0rd-ibookohhh... Hrontore you'll regret that :-P06:54
HrontoreBluesKaj: what is Envy?06:54
BluesKaj!Envy06:54
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia906:54
HrontoreOHHHH Goody, disclamers06:55
BluesKajwell, I managed to get DRI and Tvtime working by using the latest driver setup thru envy , which I couldn't do previously06:56
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BluesKajone has to take a few calculated risks with ATI in Linux I'm afraid ...it's just afact of life :)06:57
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Hrontoretrue true06:57
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Hrontoremy first nvidia card bit the dust from esd06:58
BluesKajgot tired of searching for solutions , so I went with the devil I know06:58
Hrontoredont we all06:58
CarinArractually none of the nvidia cards i've had have broken on me06:59
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CarinArrwhcih is quite an achievement as everything else seems to have at some point or other06:59
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HrontoreBluesKaj: could you walk me through the install?07:00
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voicuwiz0rd, ssh -X doesn't work: i still get 'cannot connect to X server' or 'not authorized to start X'07:04
t3hwiz0rd-ibookare you on windows doing this?07:05
voiculol, no07:05
t3hwiz0rd-ibookokay07:05
t3hwiz0rd-ibookthats odd07:05
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookthe only time ie ver got that was whne i was sshing thru windows07:05
sayersThe upgrade didn't work :(07:06
sayersHad to reinstall kubuntu07:06
Yorokobivoicu, have you looked at NX? http://www.nomachine.com/07:07
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epDesktop question. Somehow errant fingers accidently launched the KDE Katapult app.  know nothing about this and never use it.  Now "alt-f2"  no longer opens "Run".  How to fix?07:07
voicuuh, what port is X transmitting?07:08
posingaspopularep, katapult is alt+spacebar+typing the name of the app07:08
voicui have a firewall07:08
posingaspopularduno about the rest of the question07:08
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Yorokobivoicu, 'cat /etc/services | grep X'07:08
voicunice, thanks :D07:09
Levo_75I now have this file : libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb07:09
Levo_75What do i do with it?07:09
Levo_75* it's for the mp3 codec07:10
epah, the katapult thing might be irrelevant then.  The rest of the question is what i need a clue on.07:10
posingaspopular!mp307:10
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:10
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Yorokobi!info libc607:12
ubotulibc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9992 kB07:12
Admiral_ChicagoLevo_75: follow the first two links07:12
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animimotusis it a bug in kate for desindent with ctrl + shift + i ? I'm on edgy07:13
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Yorokobianimimotus, that's by design.07:13
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sayersDoes anyone know why my Upgrade didnt work?07:14
YorokobiIn kate, Settings -> Configure Shortcuts if you want to change the shortcut keys.07:14
sayersroot: You want to not run irc in SU or Sudo07:14
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animimotusYorokobi: sure I have checked, it's the same by default07:15
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sayersI think I have this one : or if you have KDE 3.5.6 Edgy packages installed add this one for i386:07:15
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Levo_75How do i install software outside the list in adept?07:15
YorokobiLevo_75, 'sudo dpkg -i <debfile.deb>07:16
sayersLevo_75: with aptitude07:16
epI wonder if my keyboard quit working for either the alt or f2.  Anyway to test this key combination?07:16
Yorokobi'07:16
animimotusYorokobi: ctrl + i is the same than ctrl + altgr + i :\07:16
Levo_75?07:16
sayersYorokobi: no ...07:16
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Levo_75Where do i type that?07:16
sayersLevo_75: what are you trying to install07:16
Levo_75Opera browser, mp3 codecs07:16
c1|freakyis there any explanation of the copy&pasting under kde?07:17
sayersYou can do that with aptitude07:17
sayersLevo_75: open your terminal07:17
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DarphBobolol #hardware has only 2 users07:17
Levo_75Yes07:17
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DarphBoboone of them is chanserv07:17
sreckoDarphBobo... :\07:17
sreckonot really :)07:17
sayersLevo_75: now type sudo aptitude search opera07:17
Levo_75I opened terminal ( Commando uitvoeren) in dutch07:17
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srecko##hardware does07:17
sreckobut #hardware is crowded07:17
c1|freakywhy do u all use aptitude instead of apt-get and apt-cache?07:18
DarphBobosrecko, sorry wrong channel :D07:18
smile_anyone can help me .. i want install MacOS icones07:18
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sayersc1|freaky: because aptitude is better and allows more stuff07:18
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srecko;)07:18
c1|freakysayers: what for example?07:19
bodotrivia :P07:19
bodohello07:19
sayersc1|freaky: I dont think you can install drivers with apt-get07:19
sayersyou dont get all the packages I believe07:19
Levo_75Nothing happens :s07:19
bodowhat drivers?07:19
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bodo:D07:19
sayersLevo_75: you might have to type it in german or russia or whatever07:19
c1|freakyi think u get all packages with apt-get07:19
Levo_75Dutch07:20
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Levo_75Now what the fuck?07:20
tominglishi guys, i have a problem with kubuntu feisty (latest) and my wireless router - networkmanager assigns my router's ip address as the top dns server, and this causes dns lookups to be really really slow, but when i remove this ip manually from the list (each time i restart the computer, or refresh the network connection), then lookup speeds return to normal07:20
Levo_75English commands don't work in the dutch version?07:20
tomingliscan anyone help me?07:20
sayershm, well any way aptitude is better07:20
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epah solved the mystery.  It's this new Microsoft ergonomic keyboard.  It has a function lock key and it was off, wtf.07:21
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jhutchinstominglis: Feisty is in #ubuntu+1 - still beta.07:22
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Levo_75Guess what07:22
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Levo_75Nothing happens :(07:22
jhutchinssayers: aptitude is just a gui shell for apt-get.07:22
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookjhutchins: not entireellyyy07:22
t3hwiz0rd-ibookit handles metapackages a little different07:22
jhutchinssayers: You can actually do more with the command line tools than you can with the GUI.07:22
jhutchinst3hwiz0rd-ibook: True.07:23
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jhutchinst3hwiz0rd-ibook: You should get the same results though.07:23
sayersjhutchins: aptitude install blah is not GUI07:23
t3hwiz0rd-ibookit was what was supposed to be the successor of apt-get... but apt-get is just still too hott to stop07:23
t3hwiz0rd-ibooksayers: vim is gui :-P07:24
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookslapped*07:24
c1|freakygvim is gui07:24
epKarma getting me. It took all my willpower to force myself to buy  a Microsoft brand keyboard.  I liked the way it felt and it was on sale at Best Buy.  I never loaded the kernel module for it cause I don't care about all the extra keys and gizmos.07:24
sayerst3hwiz0rd-ibook: I believe Vim is UI not GUI07:24
t3hwiz0rd-ibookmicrosoft makes a sexy keyboard.07:24
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t3hwiz0rd-ibooksayers: i know... i was acting stupid lol07:24
soulrider_!printer07:25
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows07:25
t3hwiz0rd-ibookep: i've been using microsux keyboard and mice since i was 807:25
epYeah, it's growning on me.07:25
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voicuin case you want to know, ssh -X works, i just had to restart the connection after accepting the X ports07:27
voicuthanks for the help07:27
t3hwiz0rd-ibookvoicu: no problemo07:27
t3hwiz0rd-ibooki accept credit cards and money orders :-)07:28
voicuhehe07:28
sayersI have a nice microsoft ergonomic keyboard. They cant make an OS that graet but they can make a very comfortable keyboard07:28
t3hwiz0rd-ibooksayers: ironic eh?07:28
t3hwiz0rd-ibooklol07:28
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t3hwiz0rd-ibooktheir lowest selling point is the only thing they ever got right07:28
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epsayers, did you use hte extra keys?  You have to load a kernel module for that right?07:30
t3hwiz0rd-ibookyou can just assign the keys in edgy07:30
t3hwiz0rd-ibookit worked for me07:30
sayersNo I dont use the extra keys07:30
t3hwiz0rd-ibookbut again07:30
t3hwiz0rd-ibooki have an old old microsoft wireless natural07:30
epi agree, it's really comfortable.  At least the model I bought.  After two days or so of using it, I was hooked.07:31
sayersIt took two days of typing to get used to it ;)\07:32
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epyep07:32
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sayersYorokobi: ?07:32
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Yorokobisayers, !07:33
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sayers!07:33
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Yorokobisayers, I use the dvorak-us keyboard layout instead of qwerty. It has saved me from a lot of pain.07:33
t3hwiz0rd-ibookep: what kernel app needs to be installed07:33
t3hwiz0rd-ibook?07:33
prakdoes anyone know how to fix kubuntu os that can't get past the login screen07:34
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prakafter the correct login information?07:34
sayersYorokobi: what do those look like?07:34
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Yorokobisayers, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard07:34
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sinkorswimhow can I enable the multiverse repository?07:35
sinkorswimi have directions for ubuntu but dont seem to have the same options in my start menu07:35
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Yorokobi!source-o-matic > sinkorswim07:35
sayersYorokobi: that is weird. How does it save you pain?07:35
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Yorokobisayers, qwerty caused tendonitis <sp?> and I had to get periodic deep tissue massages on my forearms and wear wrist braces. I don't need that now.07:36
CarinArrsinkorswim: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories07:37
sayersYorokobi: I get that , before I got my Keyboard.07:37
CarinArrsinkorswim: just change the "gedit" to "kate"07:37
sinkorswimthanks all07:37
sinkorswimCarinArr: actually I like vim :)07:37
cytI am curious why my friends use Debian for a long time think (K)Ubunut is bug-prone than Debian? Is that ture or any misunderstanding?07:37
ept3hwiz0rd-ibook: Can't recall. I just read something on the forums.  non-standard keys07:37
t3hwiz0rd-ibookdoes anyone have any ideas what the official kde 4 desktop is gonna look like?07:38
epI don't really care about em, so I didn't look into it07:38
t3hwiz0rd-ibookor is that under tight lock and key during development?07:38
Yorokobiep, t3hwiz0rd-ibook there are packages available that allow the use of extra keys07:38
CarinArrsinkorswim: then replace the gedit with vim;)07:38
cytAt least I think there are big improves from edgy to feisty beta.07:38
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sayersYorokobi: It's all about posture and your equipment and this program called work rave ;)07:39
sayersAnywho cya later.07:39
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Levo_75Why can't i install anything?07:41
prakdoes anyone know how to fix kubuntu os that can't get past the login screen after typing in the correct login information?07:42
c1|freakycheck numlock and capslock07:43
t3hwiz0rd-ibookprak: did you merge a homefolder from a previous computer or install?07:43
prakt3hwiz0rd-ibook07:43
prak: i'm not sure07:43
praki don't think so07:44
t3hwiz0rd-ibookwhat happens after you log in?07:44
t3hwiz0rd-ibookor attempt to?07:44
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gaedoes anyone have Cedega TransGaming? I need some help07:46
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookgae: whats up?07:46
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gaeI have a prob with KOTOR: the character moves too quickly, like on E07:47
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Levo_75This channel doesn't have mods?07:47
t3hwiz0rd-ibookLevo_75: all channels have mods07:47
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookfreenode philosophy is to not remain in op status unless enforcing rules07:47
t3hwiz0rd-ibookkeeps the temperature of chat more mild07:47
Levo_75cool07:47
solomon_Levo_75: i accidentally changed the topic in here, and i'm not a mod.  I felt really powerful for 2 seconds, FYI07:48
t3hwiz0rd-ibookgae: honestly the first thing i'd do is try regular WINE07:48
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t3hwiz0rd-ibooki must say that the day of cedega being better than wine is much far over... and wine runs fantabulous and "just works" for most stuff supported07:49
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solomon_t3hwiz0rd-ibook: how does it run games?  i haven't tried it in YEARS...maybe i'll have to07:49
gaeknew Wine was about apps, not gaimes...07:50
t3hwiz0rd-ibooksolomon_:  i play hl2 coutnerstrike source and day of defeat source flawlessly with settings maxed in full screen on standard wine07:50
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Levo_75I want to use dual boot, but i obly have a 40 gb hdd07:52
t3hwiz0rd-ibookis there any text-based browsers better than lynx07:52
Levo_75:(07:52
prakdoes anyone know how to remove kde?07:53
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t3hwiz0rd-ibooksudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop07:53
Levo_75How do i install opera browser?07:53
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mrdlouisdid like to remote desktop to my win32 server, any recommendations on what app i should use?07:53
Levo_75How do i install anything?07:53
Photonhi, ok ive got a new issue07:53
sreckosudo apt-get install07:53
mrdlouisdid like to transfer files also07:53
Yorokobimrdlouisd, rdesktop and tsclient07:54
Photoni need to install real player07:54
sreckoLevo_75: start Kadept07:54
Levo_75kadept?07:54
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookmrdlouisd: using the standard rdp protocal?07:54
Levo_75i have adept07:54
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sreckoLevo_75: run it :)07:54
Levo_75Running07:54
Levo_75Now?07:54
sreckoSee the packages?07:54
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sep1318Photon: your issue is?...07:54
Levo_75Opera isn't in there07:55
sreckook07:55
waylandbillmrdlouisd: realvnc, tightvnc, ms terminal services, etc.07:55
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Photoni want to download and install real player07:55
mrdlouisdthanks going to look into them07:55
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookmrdlouisd: well wait a second here07:55
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookmrdlouisd: are you trying to access it thru terminal services?07:55
Levo_75I have to register for pm man07:55
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sep1318real is in the commercial repositories.07:56
mrdlouisdjust trying to remote to it, im new to linux. I used to just use remote desktop connectoin07:56
t3hwiz0rd-ibookif you use rdc07:56
mrdlouisdwas looking for something similar07:56
t3hwiz0rd-ibookjust sudo apt-get install rdesktop07:56
t3hwiz0rd-ibookthats the linux implimentation of rdc07:56
Yorokobiand tsclient07:56
mrdlouisdwould i have to install anything on my server?07:56
t3hwiz0rd-ibookyes and tsclient07:56
t3hwiz0rd-ibookmrdlouisd: does your server already accept rdc's?07:56
Yorokobimrdlouisd, enable remote rdp connections is all07:57
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mrdlouisdyes07:57
t3hwiz0rd-ibookmrdlouisd: then no07:57
mrdlouisdsweet thanks07:57
waylandbillmrdlouisd: install rdesktop and use krdc07:57
mrdlouisdok07:57
Tm_Tarr07:57
t3hwiz0rd-ibookTm_T: right when you did that the song i was listening to did it07:57
t3hwiz0rd-ibookcreepy07:57
Tm_Tt3hwiz0rd-ibook: no, it was me07:57
Photoni dont have a commercial deposites link07:57
t3hwiz0rd-ibooklmao07:58
sep1318right.07:58
Photoni have downloaded realplayerGOLD10.bin07:58
sep1318ok.07:58
Photonand i have another one which is in RPM extension07:58
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waylandbillPhoton: why not just get the one from medibuntu?07:59
Levo_75srecko nothing shows up07:59
t3hwiz0rd-ibookYorokobi: i didn't know krdc connected to windows terminal servers07:59
t3hwiz0rd-ibookYorokobi: thats pretty spiffy07:59
waylandbill!medibuntu07:59
ubotumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/07:59
BluesKajanyone here familiar with creating torrent files ...I keep getting errors when trying to install a "createtorrent utility" ..error error no open ssh ...why would that be required ?07:59
Yorokobit3hwiz0rd-ibook, krdc is not nearly as friendly as tsclient, but yes, it works07:59
t3hwiz0rd-ibooktsclient eh?07:59
sreckoLevo_75: enable all repositories that have 'deb' prefix07:59
t3hwiz0rd-ibooki am so disconnected from the remote desktop world07:59
sep1318Photon: or you can follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-9a7a4519857af012ff775e9c0f15fbce6017367607:59
t3hwiz0rd-ibookssh for life07:59
sreckonot necesicary to enable those with 'deb-src'08:00
sep1318...and get it from the commercial repository08:00
waylandbillBluesKaj: for the crypto libraries most likely.08:00
Photonk checking...08:00
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sparrwkonqueror is not providing the password to kate when i try to open a remote file.  help?08:00
BluesKajit doesn't specify what libs are required tho, waylandbill08:00
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waylandbillBluesKaj: what utility is it and what's the error? are you trying to compile it?08:01
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BluesKajwaylandbill, it's CreateTorrent tarball08:02
Levo_75srecko i fail at doing that08:03
BluesKajhttp://www.createtorrent.com/08:03
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waylandbillBluesKaj: ktorrent can create torrents. If you are getting errors about missing openssh during a configure you probably need openssh-dev08:03
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Photoni cant find real player...08:03
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Ash-Fox!realplayer08:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:04
sep1318Photon, where/how are you looking?08:04
BluesKajok, waylandbill, thx I'll check it out ...didn't really look around ktorrent for the make torrent option08:04
Photonadept manager08:04
Photoni have put the commercial link08:05
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Photonand fetched updates then searched for real player08:05
sep1318did you just copy/paste the link i gave you?08:05
waylandbillftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb08:06
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sep1318cuz you shouldn't have.08:06
sep1318:)08:06
sgumbyis there a way to install kubuntu from the live cd but not from the graphical installer ?08:07
Photoni have kubuntu08:07
Photonno i didnt copy paste08:07
Photoni opened the link08:07
sep1318ok good.08:07
Photonthen went to the link down08:07
Photonthe commercial one08:07
sep1318right, so you put it in your list and updated, like it said?08:07
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Photonwaylandbill: no such file or directory08:08
knappDoes anyone know a work-around for this bug? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58617) I posted the crash report (at the very bottom)08:08
sep1318except replacing dapper with edgy if your using it?08:08
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Yorokobisgumby, if there's a way to add kernel options to the LiveCD boot, use 'linux text' ... I can't confirm that'll work at the moment08:08
haloguys what a strange thing... *_* I've ever used suse, I installed now latest edgy kubuntu on my laptop and I can't find a root08:08
haloif I've something to do, for example with adept, kde ask me for a password08:09
Photonnow what should i do to get real player tell me step by step08:09
sgumbywill y have to download the alternate install cd ?08:09
PhinnFortYorokobi: there is a way, there's a menu option that says "extra options" or something08:09
halowhich password I give him?? I tried setting root password in konsole, and is now set, but it seems like it's not good for KDE privilege access08:10
sep1318if you did everything, it should be there.08:10
halocan you help me please?08:10
PhinnForthalo: don't use the root password08:10
PhinnForthalo: use your own password08:10
PhinnForthalo: your account08:10
Yorokobisgumby, probably not.08:10
Photoni changed it to edgy, still didnt find real player08:10
PhinnForthalo: you should randomize your root password again, or just set it to something really hard08:10
haloPhinnFort:  it means that a user can install and uninstall software?08:10
PhinnForthalo: yes, using something called "sudo"08:11
sep1318Photon: what's the line you put into your list?08:11
PhinnForthalo: with Ubuntu's patches, it's much more secure08:11
sgumbyYorokobi:it say linux:2/vmlinux: unable to open file, Invalid device08:11
haloPhinnFort: can I disable this orrible thing? how?08:11
Photonhttp://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu08:11
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PhinnForthalo: which horrible thing?08:11
Photondeb before it08:11
PhinnForthalo: i think you must remove your user from the wheel group if you don't want to be able to to administrative thing08:11
PhinnForts08:11
sreckoLevo_75: read some manual, man :D08:11
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Photondapper-commercial after it08:11
Photoni changed dapper to edgy08:11
haloPhinnFort: that a user can do everything with adept08:12
PhinnFort!sudo08:12
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:12
sep1318Photon: so edgy-commercial main after the addy?08:12
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PhinnForthalo: go to system settings -> user management, and select your user08:12
PhinnFortbut first select administrator mode08:12
Photoni just changed dapper-commercial to edgy-commercial08:13
PhinnFortand create a new backup user, and then remove your normal user from the "admin" group08:13
Yorokobisgumby, try 'vmlinux text'  ... you may have to get the alternate (non-Live) CD08:13
Levo_75I'm gonna use windows xp again, i can't even install a simple browser :(08:13
PhinnForthalo: then you won't be able to "sudo"08:13
PhinnFortLevo_75: what's your problem?08:13
ubuntuCIAO08:13
PhinnFortciao08:13
PhinnFortvaia con Dios08:13
sgumbynot working :( alternate cd is on the way08:14
Photonfirst of all, are u sure real player exists?08:14
PhinnFort:D08:14
Levo_75I'm failing at installing programs08:14
sgumbybut it boot08:14
PhinnFortLevo_75: how?08:14
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sep1318yeah08:14
PhinnFortLevo_75: go to Add/remove Programs, and install away08:14
ubuntuis there an italian person???08:14
PhinnFort!it08:14
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:14
sgumbyand the graphical mode works too but the installer is way too slow08:14
Photondo u have it installed08:14
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Photonwhy dont u try08:14
soulrider_Photon: real player is on one fo the repos08:15
sep1318yeah, gimme a sec to see if i can find it, then we can try to figure out why you can't see it.08:15
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soulrider_its int he cannonical commercial repo08:15
Levo_75I downloaded the install file of opera08:15
sep1318that's where i've been trying to lead him, but it isn't coming up.08:15
Photonbut i cant find it08:15
Levo_75How do i find that with opera?08:15
sep1318right, hold on.08:15
sep1318:)08:15
PhinnFortLevo_75: amd64?08:15
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jbaloulhi all08:15
haloPhinnFort: excuse me... for example, I'm trying to set my screen resolution, inside System Settings... there's a button with "Administrator Mode"... if I click it, it asks me a password... which password I give it?08:15
soulrider_p   realplay                                                                          - RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.08:15
Levo_75No i38608:15
Levo_75I don't have a 64 bitc cpu08:15
PhinnForthalo: your user's password08:15
jbalouli am trying to save stream in kaffeine and it seems to be brocken since this last upgrade08:15
PhinnFortLevo_75: ok08:15
Photonohh08:15
soulrider_Levo_75: you want to install opera ?08:16
Photonit starts with p08:16
Levo_75Yes08:16
soulrider_install it from the repos08:16
Levo_75Yes i do08:16
PhinnFortubuntu edgy?08:16
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Levo_75repos? kubuntu08:16
PhinnFortLevo_75: i'll walk you through it08:16
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Levo_75kubuntu 6.06 dapper drake08:16
soulrider_!repos | Levo_7508:16
PhinnFortLevo_75: do you use the old Dapper, the normal Edgy, or beta Feisty08:16
PhinnFort?08:16
ubotuLevo_75: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:16
PhinnFortok08:16
Levo_75Dapper drake ubotu i know08:16
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PhinnFortLevo_75: follow the guide the bot posted08:17
sep1318Photon: search for realplayer, without the space08:17
YorokobiLevo_75, have you looked through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser08:17
Levo_75Ok08:17
soulrider_Photon: real player si int he cannonical comemrcial repo, you can get a custom sources.list built for you with that repo08:17
sep1318it should be the only thing that shows08:17
soulrider_!easysource | Photon08:17
ubotuPhoton: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic08:17
PhotonTHANKS ALOT08:17
PhinnFortLevo_75: after you've done that, then i will tell you how to install opera08:17
sep1318did that work?08:17
Photoni FOUND IT!!!08:17
Photonyup08:18
soulrider_awesome Photon!08:18
PhotonTHANKS FOR BOTH OF YOU08:18
sep1318schweet08:18
sep1318np08:18
sep1318:)08:18
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PhinnFortsep1318: what happened september 1318?08:18
Photonok then i want to make it the default player08:18
Levo_75Locate the .deb package and double click on it to start the Gdebi .deb installer.08:18
PhinnFortPhoton: alt+f2 -> "kcontrol" -> enter08:18
Levo_75What now?08:18
Levo_75Gdebi.deb?08:18
sep1318he put the repo in right, but he was searching with the space, which doesn't pull up anything08:18
PhinnFortLevo_75: what did you do?08:18
PhinnFortLevo_75: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:19
PhinnFortLevo_75: scroll down to the commercial repos08:19
PhinnFortLevo_75: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-9a7a4519857af012ff775e9c0f15fbce6017367608:19
Photonk08:19
sep1318cuz the space doesn't exist in the description either, apparently08:19
jbaloulis there a fix for recording a wmv stream with kaffeine?08:19
PhinnFortheh08:19
Photonyup08:19
sep1318silly companies and screwing up spelling for the generations to come.08:20
PhinnFort;P08:20
jhutchinsjbaloul: Try streamripper.08:20
sep1318exactly, phinn08:20
PhotonPhinnFort: now what should i do to make it default08:20
PhinnFortPhoton: did you go to control center?08:20
Photonyup08:21
jbalouljhutchins will do thanks, so i assume that there isn't a fix for this in kaffeine08:21
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PhinnFortPhoton: search for "assoc"08:21
jhutchinsjbaloul: Never could get kaffeine to run well for me, I don't bother with it.08:21
PhinnFortPhoton: click on file associoations08:21
ionussomeone tell me how i can play cs in kubuntu08:21
PhinnFort!cs08:21
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
ionussomeone tell me how i can play cs in kubuntu08:21
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PhinnFort!winegaming08:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about winegaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:21
PhinnFort!repeat | ionus08:21
ionus!cs08:21
ubotuionus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience08:21
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Photonk then08:21
haloso in this moment halo is a root?08:22
ionuscounter strike on kubuntu08:22
jbalouljhutchins, gotcha, thanks man08:22
haloI'm logged in my kde with a root user08:22
PhinnForthalo: you can say that, yes08:22
ionusi  can play cs on kub08:22
ionus?08:22
PhinnForthalo: sudo means that your user can do certain stuff with root priviliges08:22
jhutchinshalo: You shouldn't be, you especially shouldn't be running irc as root.08:22
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jhutchins!sudo | halo08:22
ubotuhalo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:22
PhinnForthalo: su = switch user, sudo = switch user do08:22
jhutchins!kdesu | halo08:22
ubotuhalo: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo08:22
Photon....08:23
PhinnForthalo: probably08:23
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PhinnForti mean...08:23
PhinnFortionus: probablyu08:23
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ionushow08:23
ionus?08:23
jhutchins!wine | ionus08:23
ubotuionus: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:23
PhinnFortionus: run the install program for steam08:23
jhutchinsionus: Start there.08:23
PhinnFortionus: have you installed wine?08:23
ionusi haw instaled but no worc08:23
ionusi haw instaled but no work08:24
Photonhow can i make it universal: i am inside file accos08:24
PhinnFortionus: try running "winecfg"08:24
ionusand?08:24
PhinnFortionus: does it work?08:24
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Photonstop drinking wine :P :P08:24
ionuswait08:24
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Levo_75Ah finally it's installing opera08:24
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PhinnFortionus: then download steam install, and then double click it, or right click, run with, type in "wine" and hit enter08:24
PhinnFortLevo_75: great!08:24
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PhinnFortPhoton: i think you have to do it manually08:25
PhinnFortPhoton: but ask in #kde, they might know08:25
Photonokay...08:25
PhotonThanks everyone08:25
Photonbye08:25
ionuswhat08:25
ionus?08:25
PhinnFortionus: did winecfg run?08:26
ionusyes08:26
PhinnFortionus: if it did, locate the install program for cs08:26
sgumbyonce i'm in textmode what should i do to install ?08:26
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PhinnFortionus: double click on it08:26
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ionusok wait08:26
PhinnFortsgumby: install what?08:26
sgumbykubuntu on my laptop08:26
sgumbyfrom the live cd08:26
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ionusi cant find it08:27
ionus?08:27
PhinnFortionus: can't find what?08:27
ionusisee only dick c08:27
ionus?08:27
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ionusonly disk c08:27
ionus?08:27
PhinnFortionus: i don't understand08:27
PhinnFortwhere do you have the install stuff for cs?08:27
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ionusisee only disk c:\\08:27
jbalouljhutchins does streamripper do video? it seems to be choking08:27
john_hello from holland08:27
Levo_75Hoi john08:28
PhinnFortionus: you on kubuntu?08:28
ionusyes08:28
ionus?08:28
john_hai levo08:28
ionusyes08:28
jhutchinsjbaloul: Hm, not sure.  I've only used it for audio.08:28
ionus6.1008:28
Levo_75john do you happen to be a totsean?08:28
PhinnFortionus: and what is C:?08:28
aaroncampbellI'm wondering if someone could lend me a hand building a printer driver.  Before I used redhat, and Konica Minolta supplies rpms (or .tar.gz http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ).  This is what I get when I try to ./configure : http://paste-bin.com/1131908:28
jbaloulyeah thats my problem...audio works , i need to save a wmv stream08:28
aaroncampbellI assume I need other packages installed, but I'm not sure what08:28
aaroncampbellThere *is* a /debian directory in that .tar.gz, but it doesn't contain a .deb ...it has a couple Makefiles, etc...and I'm not sure what to do with it08:28
jbalouland kaffeine used to work but now its breaking08:29
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ubuntuWhat is the minimum harware for kubuntu ???08:29
ionusin wine cfg. i see only disc c: for exe location08:29
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PhinnFort!requirements08:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:29
jhutchinsjbaloul: Did you upgrade something?08:29
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Levo_75Well all i need now is to install the mp3 sound codex08:29
Levo_75How do i do that?08:29
ionusin wine cfg. i see only disc c: for exe location08:29
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jbaloulyeah...both edgy and feisty don't work....it used to work on dapper08:29
jhutchinsPhinnFort: Requirements for what?08:29
ionusin wine cfg. i see only disc c: for exe location08:30
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jhutchinsjbrice_: Have you installed the stuff for the restricted formats?08:30
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jhutchinsjbaloul: ^08:30
devianceOk, has this worked?08:30
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jbaloulyeah i got everything...i can view just not save08:30
PhinnFortionus: just close winecfg08:30
PhinnFortionus: that was just to check that wine works08:31
PhinnFortsorry08:31
ionusok08:31
PhinnFortionus: use the normal file manager to locate it08:31
jbaloulthis is the bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1242970&group_id=86937&atid=58140608:31
ionushow08:31
jbaloulwas wondering if anyone had a fix yet?08:31
ionusi im new in linux08:31
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ionusplease tell me08:31
PhinnFortionus: click on the little house08:31
ionusi im new in linux08:31
ionusplease tell me08:31
ionusaha home08:31
ionus?08:31
PhinnFortionus: where have you placed your install?08:31
PhinnFortionus: are you using steam?08:31
Levo_75I need help with getting mp3's to play08:31
ionus /home/ionus08:32
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ionusno08:32
jhutchinsjbaloul: Might check in #kde08:32
PhinnFortionus: double click on the install file in the file manager08:32
PhinnFortok?08:32
jhutchinsjbaloul: I have no idea, but VLC seems to be fairly versitile, it might be able to capture a video stream.08:32
ionuswhere08:32
ionus?08:32
PhinnFortionus: where you have your install file08:33
jbalouljhutchins, PhinnFort told me to come here from the #kde channel :)08:33
jhutchinsHeh.08:33
PhinnFort:P08:33
jbaloulcan't figure out how to do it with vlc08:33
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ionuswait08:33
PhinnFortjbaloul: i said go to the devs08:33
ubunturequirements minimun08:33
PhinnFort:D08:33
jhutchinsPhinnFort: Do you think it's a kubuntu specific bug?08:33
PhinnFortjhutchins: probably08:33
PhinnFortsince i believe it came with a ubuntu minor version08:33
ubunturequiremnet essential08:34
ubuntu08:34
PhinnFortubuntu6 to ubuntu708:34
ubuntuubuntu708:34
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PhinnFortubuntu: 64megs of ram08:34
ubuntuand ptocessor08:35
ubuntuand processor08:35
PhinnFort500 mhz, maybe?08:35
jhutchinsjbaloul: http://geocities.com/majormms/08:35
PhinnFort!repeat | ubuntu08:35
ubotuubuntu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience08:35
ubuntuthank you08:35
PhinnFortnp08:35
jhutchinsjbaloul: Or mplayer:08:35
jhutchinsjbaloul: mplayer.exe -dumpstream mms://somehost.com/somedirectory/somefile.wmv08:35
ionus <PhinnFort>?08:36
PhinnFortjbaloul: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_Streams_With_MPlayer08:36
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PhinnFortionus: did you manage to find your install program?08:36
ionushey08:36
ionusare u here08:36
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jbaloulhmmm....thanks guys, i'll try those...will stick around to let you know08:36
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ionusno please tell me step by step from the begining08:36
PhinnFortionus: hit alt+f2 and type in ~08:37
PhinnFortand hit enter08:37
ionuswhat type?08:37
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ionuswhat08:37
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Betzefersup guys ?08:38
PhinnFortionus: press the buttons ALT and F2 simultanously08:38
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ionusok ai open08:38
PhinnFortionus: then type in "~" in the box that pops up, and apply pressure to ENTER08:38
PhinnFortionus: now you should see your home folder08:38
ionusdone08:38
ionusyes i see08:38
PhinnFortionus: do you see your install file?08:38
ionusyes08:38
PhinnFortdouble click it08:38
PhinnFortor single click, depends08:39
PhinnFortjust run it08:39
PhinnFortmkay?08:39
ionusnot open08:39
ionusits not open08:39
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ionusthis its my problem08:39
PhinnFortthen right click, and select "open with"08:39
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PhinnFortis wine there?08:39
PhinnFortif not, select "Other" and type in "wine" and hit enter08:39
ionusno i dont see wine08:40
PhinnFortthen click "other"08:40
ionusmebe it is in subgrouops08:40
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ionusno i can see08:40
PhinnFortionus: select "Other" and type in "wine" and hit enter08:40
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ionuswait08:41
PhinnFortok08:41
PhinnForti will08:41
ionusloading wine....08:41
ionusbut no open08:41
ionus!!!08:42
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ionusno work no eror08:42
smilehi linuxians .. how can i put grub in a floppy ?08:42
ionus <PhinnFort>08:42
ionus?08:42
PhinnFortionus: click on the Window menu08:42
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PhinnFortand "Show terminal emulator"08:42
ionusok08:42
smilecoz i will reinstall windows ..so i will lose grub08:42
ionusdone08:42
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technikk<ionus> i havee a same problem but with mplayer :\08:42
PhinnFortionus: type in "wine" and the beginning of the file name of the install file, and hit "tab"08:43
PhinnFortand enter08:43
ionusi dont now i am new in kubuntu08:43
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chijinsmile: grub is easily recoverable08:44
ionuswine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\cs16full.exe": Module not foun08:44
ionuswine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\cs16full.exe": Module not found08:44
smilechijin: how ?08:44
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styleHello everyone. I installed beryl on my kubuntu 7.04. My graficcard is a nvidia 7400 go. Since about 3 hours I'm tring to get the window decoretion to run but when I start beryl they cut out on me. I've addedOption "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" to my xorg.conf but no changes. dose somebody know a solution?08:44
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PhinnFortionus: type in "wine cs16full"08:44
PhinnFortand hit enter08:44
chijinsmile: i've used the super grub boot disk many times and it works. google for it08:45
ionusThreads:08:45
ionusprocess  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)08:45
ionus00000008 (D) Z:\home\ionus\cs16full.exe08:45
PhinnFortionus: i think the installer you are using might be buggy08:45
ionuswhere i can found new instaler08:45
ionus>08:45
ionus?08:45
PhinnFortionus: you could try asking in #wine08:45
smilechijin: how to modify grub in kubuntu ?08:46
PhinnFortionus: i only have experience with installing Steam08:46
PhinnFortsmile: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst08:46
PhinnFort:D08:46
ionuswhat is steam08:46
ionus?08:46
PhinnFortionus: Steam is the program you use to buy and install CS and other games08:46
ionusi play cs on linux?08:46
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ionustell me with steam08:47
ionusplease08:47
PhinnForthttp://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=24008:47
PhinnFortdownload and double click08:47
smilechijin: can i make a rescue floppy in kubuntu .. in Mandriva it's easy08:47
ionusok wait 1min08:47
chijin!grub | smile08:47
ubotusmile: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:47
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Levo_75What were the codecs i need for mp3 support?08:48
ionusbut free :)08:48
PhinnFort!mp3 | Levo_7508:48
ubotuLevo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:48
knappProblem, I can't play Mp3s. I've installed "libxine-extracodecs", been to the RestrictedFormats wiki page, read. Still cannot play Mp3's... Any ideas?08:48
PhinnFortionus: borrow an account from someone, maybe?08:48
PhinnFortionus: but ask in #wine, they might be able to help you with the errors you are getting08:48
styleknapp: what application?08:49
ionusok08:49
knappamarok, totum, others.08:49
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knappVLC is the only app that will actually play mp3s08:49
Chr1831Hello08:49
smilePhinnFort: try to play mp3 in Amarok and it will install libxine-extra automaticlly08:49
Chr1831how can i make kde use double click?08:49
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ionusthx08:49
stylerestartet amarok right?08:49
knappstyle, yes many times :)08:49
stylewell you never know :)08:49
PhinnFortChr1831: System Settings -> Mouse and KEyboard -> Mouse08:50
stylehere it worked that way just fine08:50
PhinnFortChr1831: under "icons" on that page08:50
jhutchinsknapp: Maybe you missed one of the steps from the Restricted Formats page.08:50
stylex reboot08:50
Chr1831thanks :D08:51
PhinnFortnp;)08:51
PhinnFortknapp: what engine is amarok using?08:51
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Chr1831also how can i make window key + d = show desktop?08:51
PhinnFortknapp: make sure it utilises the xine engine08:51
ArwenChr1831, in beryl?08:51
jhutchinsknapp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP308:51
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Chr1831nope beryl + my computer + kubuntu 7.04 = not so good lol08:51
PhinnFortChr1831: same place, just "Keybord Shortcuts"08:51
knappYeah, I have all of those installed :/08:51
PhinnFortChr1831: search for "desktop"08:52
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PhinnFortChr1831: found it?08:52
Chr1831what ever happened to kcontrol?08:52
Chr1831yeah thanks :D08:53
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Levo_75What repository do i go to for wine?08:54
jbalouljust got it...the only way it would work....  from cli:  vlc <url>--sout file/avi:filename.avi08:55
PhinnFort!info wine | Levo_7508:55
Levo_75Can i just give the filepath?08:55
ubotulevo_75: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB08:55
PhinnFortLevo_75: in universe08:55
jbaloulthanks guys for the direction08:55
jbaloultake care08:55
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Levo_75Umz08:56
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Levo_75How do i gain acces to universe?08:56
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PhinnFort!universe08:56
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:56
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PhinnFortwtf... the gnutella rfc has disappeared...08:57
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PhinnFortor at least large parts of it08:57
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Arwenzzz... hammered by updates again08:58
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PhinnFortwhat is the recommended desktop search for KDE/Kubuntu?09:02
PhinnFortstrigi?09:02
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PhinnFortlike beagle for gnome09:02
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PhinnFort!beagle09:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beagle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:05
SSJ_GZPhinnFort: Strigi is now a dependency for KDE4, but I'm not sure how well it works for KDE309:05
YorokobiNote to self: Do *not* remove networkmanager remotely09:05
PhinnFortSSJ_GZ: one of the kde devs adviced for using beagle instead09:05
SSJ_GZPhinnFort: Kerry is a KDE front-end to Beagle.09:05
eric__It works well for KDE309:06
PhinnForti know09:06
SSJ_GZPhinnFort: Seriously?09:06
PhinnFortSSJ_GZ: in KDE 3, he said Beagle with Kerry probably was better09:06
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SSJ_GZPhinnFort: Oh right - that makes more sense =)09:06
PhinnFortyeah;(09:06
PhinnFort*;)09:06
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Photonok i have real player installed but i cant play anyfile09:07
Photoni have this error: Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.09:07
Photoneveryother player is closed09:07
Levo_75So yeah i got the mp3 to work09:07
Levo_75Thanx guys09:07
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sreckoNAT doesnt work with my kubuntu anymore (after vmware-tools installation), please help me09:08
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Photonso what should i do?09:08
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ErunnoGood evening all. Is it possible to make Konsole proxy-aware (like the gnome terminal) ?09:09
PhinnFortis it possible to install beagle without having to pull down half of gnome?09:09
Photoni have this error: Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.09:09
Photonok i have real player installed but i cant play anyfile09:09
eco_HELLO09:09
Photonhello09:10
eco_ALGUNA ME KIERE COMER LA POLLA09:10
Photonlol09:10
eco_Q DICES09:10
PhotonENGLISH ONLY09:10
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soulrider_eco_: deja de decir esas cosas o llamo a un op09:10
PhinnFort!es09:10
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:10
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eco_YESSSSSSSS09:11
pappy_hi all09:11
eco_HELLO M09:11
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pappy_can someone help me with a problem i have with beryl?09:11
eco_ALGUN ESPAOL XAI09:11
soulrider_pappy_: maybe its better to ask in #ubuntu-effects09:11
soulrider_!es |eco09:11
ubotueco: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:11
pappy_how i go there?09:12
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carrot_trying to compile Xchat and get "configure:2454: error: C compiler cannot create executables".  since ubuntu didn't install gcc i had to do it manually with apt-get.  what else am i missing?09:12
eco_Q OS FOLLEN09:12
PhinnForttechnikk`: i don't care09:12
kiwi__lol09:12
soulrider_just click on #ubuntu-effects09:12
PhinnFort:D09:12
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aaroncampbellI'm wondering if someone could lend me a hand building a printer driver.  Before I used redhat, and Konica Minolta supplies rpms (or .tar.gz http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ).  This is what I get when I try to ./configure : http://paste-bin.com/1131909:12
aaroncampbellI assume I need other packages installed, but I'm not sure what09:12
aaroncampbellThere *is* a /debian directory in that .tar.gz, but it doesn't contain a .deb ...it has a couple Makefiles, etc...and I'm not sure what to do with it09:12
jhutchinsaaroncampbell: You could try using alien to convert the rpm to a deb.09:12
soulrider_aaroncampbell: go int he debian directory and do make and see what happen09:12
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cpk1aaroncampbell: use those makefiles when you make09:13
jhutchins!build | aaroncampbell09:13
ubotuaaroncampbell: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)09:13
aaroncampbellsoulrider_: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.09:13
soulrider_uhn, dunno reallt, google and see if you can find a deb file for those drivers09:14
aaroncampbelljhutchins: I've built some things before, but I'm lost on the one dependency of this one: configure: error: Could not find liblcms.a09:14
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ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!09:15
soulrider_!find libcms09:15
ubotuPackage/file libcms does not exist in edgy09:15
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Photon#kds09:15
aaroncampbell!adept09:15
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:15
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carrot_hmmm apt-get install build-essential.  that might be my problem.  i used apt-get install gcc.09:16
soulrider_build essential includes gcc and other compilers and tools09:16
aaroncampbell!find liblcms09:16
ubotuFound: liblcms1, liblcms1-dev, liblcms-utils09:16
soulrider_build-essential is better than just installing gcc09:16
carrot_hope so :)09:16
carrot_thanks09:17
aaroncampbellsee, I h*have* liblcms1, but that's not good enough it seems09:17
carrot_gotta wait for the updates to complete before i can do it, though.  the packages dir is locked.09:17
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carrot_has anyone gotten identd working under ubuntu?  most of the efnet servers i can connect to require a identd response, and although i have pidentd installed, it doesn't seem to work.  port 113 is forwarded because identd works in XP.09:18
Arwencarrot_, try oidentd09:20
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Arwenit's easy enough to use09:20
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carrot_Arwen: i have tried oidentd and still didn't work09:21
Arwenhmm, well, dunno - works for me09:21
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carrot_using a how-to i found, i tried the troubleshooting and it works if i telnet to myself and do the ident query, but does not work from outside the lan09:22
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turnerhello09:25
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PhinnForthow can i delete old kernels?09:29
PhinnFortthey seem to clog up my /boot partitiob09:29
PhinnFort*partition09:29
Levo_75Umz format?09:30
PhinnForthum?09:30
fdovingPhinnFort: remove the old kernel packages.09:30
PhinnFortwhat should i remove?09:30
PhinnFortand must i do it manually?09:31
fdovingPhinnFort: 'dpkg -l linux-image*09:31
fdoving'09:31
PhinnFortit's like 3 old09:31
PhinnFortdoes the modules disappear when i take down the images?09:31
fdovingyes.09:31
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PhinnFortok09:31
fdovingthe packages with modules depend on the kernel-image.09:31
PhinnForthappy me09:32
PhinnFortthis is weird...09:32
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PhinnFortwhenever i try to install something, i get this: "E: I wasn't able to locate file for the python-apt package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package."09:32
PhinnFortand then "E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?"09:32
fdovingfind the packages you want to remove in the list produced by the command i gave you, then use 'aptitude remove list-of-kernel-images-to-remove' or 'apt-get remove list-of-kernel-images-to-remove'.09:32
fdovingPhinnFort: oh. nice.09:32
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fdovingPhinnFort: so what does 'sudo dpkg -P python-apt'09:33
fdovingPhinnFort: do?09:33
PhinnFortit purges python-app09:33
pollyoPhinnFort: Are you using "sudo"09:33
PhinnFortor at least that's what it should09:33
PhinnFortpollyo: yeah09:33
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PhinnFortdpkg: error processing python-apt (--purge):  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.09:34
fdovingPhinnFort: you might need to fore that with --force-all.. yeah, i'd try to 'sudo dpkg --force-depends -P python-apt && sudo apt-get -f install'09:34
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budtuz09:34
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budtux?09:35
fdovingPhinnFort: ok, it's in that state, then i'd go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the proper python-apt package download it manually and use 'dpkg -i <pkg>' to install it.09:35
PhinnForti did a force-all, and it seems to have purged it09:35
fdovingPhinnFort: ok, then you can try to re-install it wiht 'sudo apt-get -f install'09:36
PhinnFortdoing it now09:36
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malcheri'm trying to install the sun jre on my system... but during the install adept shows me (when clicking on "show details") a console window within itself with some eula i have to agree to... the problem is i can't enter anything into that window... :/ does somebody know how i could fix that?09:38
budhow does one do away with unencrypted noticeson email?09:38
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Yorokobimalcher, don't use adept to install the Sun Java packages09:38
malcherYorokobi: instead? apt-get?09:39
Yorokobimalcher, yep. Or synaptic or dselect09:39
fdovingmalcher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-489a0f56b430f0162fead679b5d72f41ce7a397609:39
malcher...okay, than i'll do that. tnx Yorokobi09:39
Yorokobimalcher, its probably already downloaded so you can go to /var/cache/apt/archives and 'sudo dpkg -i <package>09:40
Yorokobi'09:40
malcherah thank you fdoving09:40
fdovingyou're welcome :)09:40
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voicua command for viewing the installed users?09:42
voicunvm09:42
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budplease help unencrypt my email09:44
Yorokobibud, how is it encrypted? PGP?09:44
budI don't know09:44
budPGP is unknown to me09:45
matthew_bud, who encrypted it?09:45
Yorokobibud, most encryption methods throw a header at the beginning identifying what encrypted it, the version, etc.09:46
budI am the only one using this computer09:46
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budI'll have to check next time I do email09:47
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sgumbyROT-1309:47
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voicui reinstate the question :D, command to see what users are installed/added/whatever?09:48
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Yorokobivoicu, you can look at /etc/passwd09:48
Yorokobivoicu, or 'ls /home'09:49
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voicuwell, there might be users with the home somewhere else09:49
fdovingvoicu: 'getent passwd'09:49
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Yorokobivoicu, or Kmenu -> System Settings -> User Management09:50
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voicuyeah but i need to administrate users through ssh09:50
voicui could try to use ssh -X but it's slow as hell09:51
Levo_75Is wine in universe?09:51
Yorokobi!info wine09:51
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB09:51
Levo_75With the !09:51
Levo_75?09:51
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Levo_75I have the .deb installation file09:52
Levo_75What now?09:52
Black_CatLevo_75: click it :)09:53
YorokobiLevo_75, where are you getting the debs? Are you downloading them from the web or are you using a package manager (Adept/Aptitude/Synaptic/dselect)?09:53
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voicuif i change the entry in /etc/shadow the password will change, right? it's the only place the hash is09:55
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voicu?09:55
fdovingvoicu: i don't recommend editing /etc/shadow by hand, but yes.09:56
Yorokobivoicu, why would you manually change /etc/shadow?09:56
Yorokobisudo passwd username09:56
voicuit's just that i want to disable the ftp user from login... writing ! instead of the hash09:56
voicuthat's all09:56
Yorokobivoicu, edit /etc/passwd and change /bin/(ba)sh to /bin/falselogin09:57
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fdovingvoicu: atleast use 'vipw -s' to edit the file.09:57
Yorokobier, /bin/false or /bin/nologin09:57
fdovingvoicu: you can lock the password, 'passwd -l username'09:57
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fdovingYorokobi, voicu, instead of editing /etc/passwd to change the shell, use 'chsh username'09:58
budemail has no encryption ID about it09:58
fdovingvoicu: to unlock the password: 'passwd -u username'09:58
voicuhehe, thanks for the suggestions09:58
Yorokobifdoving, huh ... learn something new every day :)09:58
voicubut it's too late09:58
voiculocking the password means no login?09:59
voicuor the password can't change?09:59
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wheggeHello everyone.  Hoping someone here can help me.  I am looking for the snmpwalk command.  I have installed tinysnmpwalk but I have a problem with tinysnmp.  The problem is that tinysnmpwalk only uses SNMP v1.  The product I am attempting to use this on only know version 2.  Any ideas where I can get the orignal snmp-tools deb file that will work on feisty?09:59
cox377why when i minimize azureus into the task bar do i get a white square opposed to the azureus icon?10:00
voicucox377: java bug probably, happens to me too10:00
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voicumight i suggest ktorrent? it's lighter, reliable and maybe faster10:01
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cox377voicu: anyway of fixing it?10:01
apokryphosktorrent's awesome10:01
cox377gonna try it now10:01
fdovingwhegge: get the 'snmp' package.10:02
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cox377another thing, does anyone here use thunderbird?10:03
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Yorokobicox377, yes10:03
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voicucox377: i think it would be complicated to fix, who knows how many things you have to fix in kicker or java or something like that10:04
cox377or any applicatio, that when shown along the bottom only has an "X inbox - Thunderbird" opposed to having an icon like say firefox does10:04
carrot_configure: error: "Cannot find glib" <- what am i missing now?10:05
fdovingthat's because kicker doesn't find a icon matching the app-name in /usr/share/icons/10:05
fdovingcox377: ^^10:05
voicumaybe thunderbird didn't set an icon and defaulted to the X icon10:05
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carrot_apt-get install glib finds nothing10:05
Levo_75How do i installed do wine in kubuntu 6.06 dapper drake?10:05
Tm_T!wine | Levo_7510:05
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ubotuLevo_75: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:06
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fdovingcarrot_: you need the -dev packages, libglib2.0-dev or libglib1.2-dev depending on the major-version you want.10:06
wheggefdoving:  Thanks!  Not sure why I could not find that package to begin with.10:06
voicucarrot_: the package is libglib2.0-dev10:06
cox377fdoving: is that responce to the question aboiut thunderbird for example?10:07
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fdovingcox377: general response to the X icons issue for any app, yes.10:07
carrot_voicu: thanks10:08
cox377fdoving: ok, how do i find out the icon name that the app is looking for?10:08
sayersAre there any Ubuntu apps where you can burn lets say a Console game to make a backup?10:08
carrot_ah finally configure worked10:09
carrot_thanks10:09
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fdovingcox377: i'm not sure. is this thunderbird?10:09
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cox377uyup10:10
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fdovingcox377: hang on, i'll install it and test.. then give you feedback.10:10
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cox377fdoving: lol mate iu wouldn't go to that much trouble10:11
cox377cheers anyway10:11
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fdovingcox377: it's not trouble, i'll learn something :)10:11
cox377:)10:12
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fdovingcox377: do you have /usr/share/app-install/icons/mozilla-thunderbird.png or /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-thunderbird.png ?10:13
pollyo_Anyone know why I might be getting an error from mysql? Something about socks?10:13
pollyo_Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)10:13
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pollyo_Could it be a guarddog setting?10:13
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fdovingpollyo_: guarddog doesn't block socket connections.10:14
pollyo_fdoving: OK.  Thanks.10:14
Yorokobipollyo_, its looking for a unix socket, not a TCP/UDP connection. ^^^10:14
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fdovingcox377: i belive the icon name should reflect the name on the binary used to execute the program, mozilla-thunderbird.png in this case.10:14
pollyo_Yorokobi: I wish that made sense to me.10:15
iakopo_ciao a tutti10:15
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cox377fdoving: yeh i have the latter10:16
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cox377"/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-thunderbird.png ?"10:17
Yorokobipollyo_, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=223313710:17
fdovingcox377: the latter is used for for example the kmenu -> run command dialog. (if you write mozilla-thunderbird into it you'll see the icon).10:17
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pollyo_Yorokobi: Thank you.  Bringing the page up now.10:18
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jnowkahello10:18
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jnowkaI have a question about my laptop touchpad10:19
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pollyo_Yorokobi: Looks like it would help if I installed the server.10:21
Yorokobipollyo_, lol10:21
pollyo_lol10:21
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jnowkaEverytime I turn it on, it brings up the KDE Help Center.  I have checked the shortcut key for the Help Menu and it shows that it is not assigned any buttons.10:22
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avvalonCan someone explain to me how I could start a remote desktop session to a computer I only have SSH access too right now?10:22
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cox377is there a command to show hdd usage / freespace?10:24
Yorokobicox377, df10:24
cox377avvalon: is it a linux machine?10:24
PF-Awaydf -h10:24
cox377thats a good command, it takes so long if you right click on the drive, properties then calculate10:25
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PF-Awayi think there's a program called kdf, for KDE10:26
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cox377PF-Away: whats kdf?10:26
PF-Awaycox377: the "df" command for KDE10:26
PF-Awayi think10:26
fdoving!kdf10:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:27
avvalonYes cox :nods:10:27
PF-Away!info kdf10:27
ubotukdf: disk space utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 964 kB10:27
fdovingkdf is in kdeutils, it's a disk space utility.10:27
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cox377PF-Away: lol already have it installed10:27
carrot_"/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl" during a compile.  what do i need to do?  perl is installed.10:27
q_L10:27
fdovingcarrot_: try to get libperl-dev10:27
Levo_75I still can't figure out how to install things in kubuntu without adept10:27
fdovingLevo_75: anything special you want to install?10:28
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Levo_75Yes10:28
Levo_75Frostwire10:28
fdoving!frostwire | levo_7510:28
Levo_75And flash plugins10:28
ubotulevo_75: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire10:28
fdoving!flash | levo_7510:28
ubotulevo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:28
PF-Away!flash | Levo_7510:28
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash10:28
ubotuLevo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:28
PF-Away:P10:28
Levo_75Hehe10:29
PF-Awayfdoving: paper, rock, scissors?10:29
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PF-Awaynext time10:29
fdovingheh :)10:29
jnowka Everytime I turn on my touchpad, it brings up the KDE Help Center.  I have checked the shortcut key for the Help Menu and it shows that it is not assigned any buttons.10:30
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fdovingthe default shortcut to khelpcenter is F1.10:30
avvalonIs that possbile? TO use ssh to view the Gui?10:31
Yorokobiavvalon, yes. The SSH server needs to allow X11 forwarding, though10:31
fdovingavvalon: yes, do you need a full blown desktop or does it do with just one and one application?10:31
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Yorokobi... and X running on the server :)10:31
jnowkaYes, but I have a special button to turn on my touchpad, but each time I turn on my touchpad it brings up KHelpCenter.  The button is not F110:31
Apollo^101isnt there an easy way. (may be by package manager) to install the latest kernel?10:32
YorokobiApollo^101, which "latest kernel" are you looking for?10:32
fdovingjnowka: please report a bug with that. and give me the bugnumber. i'll contact our special-keys-guru.10:33
jnowkaok will do, will you be here in an hour?10:33
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jnowkahow do you put in a bug report?10:34
fdovingApollo^101: if you just update regularily you will get the latest kernel available for your release. if you mean the latest kernel from kernel.org, no, there is no easy way to get that. ubuntu-kernels are slightly modified to fit our needs better than the kernel.org kernels does by default.10:34
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fdovingjnowka: go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs - find "Report a bug" and follow the instructions.10:35
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fdovingjnowka: you might need to register to launchpad first.10:35
fdovingi belive you will get instructions on how to do that on the page.10:36
fdovingif not please ask.10:36
Apollo^101Yorokobi, 2.6.2010:36
Powerking89670Does anyone know how to get araroK to play files off an ipod?10:36
melkorI just had a copy of feisty fail, so I partitioned my hard drive and put edgy back on.  After I back up my data, can I use rm -R on my old partition10:36
Apollo^101fdoving, you mean i have to compile my own. any easy way?10:36
Powerking89670I mean, It says it SHOULD, but it doesnt since all the files are mp310:36
fdovingApollo^101: may I ask why you do need a fresh from kernel.org kernel in the first place?10:37
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noaXesshow do i clear the swap space, cause i think any app would allways fill my swap space?10:37
Black_CatPowerking89670: did you install libxine-extracodecs from the Multiverse?10:37
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Powerking89670no...10:37
YorokobiPowerking89670, my system auto-mounts my ipod (4th gen) to /media/ipod ... I had to open Amarok then manually add the files from the ipod to the amarok playlist10:37
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fdovingnoaXess: you don't clear the swapspace, that's handled by the kernel, if your swapspace is full there is probably some application leaking memory.10:38
Black_CatPowerking89670, amarok requires those to play mp3s10:38
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Apollo^101fdoving, the latest is always the greatest10:38
terran4000Hey all. Does anyone have any problems with raid (Linux raid autodetect partitions) in Feisty?10:38
Powerking89670Can I get them off the Adept Manager?10:38
Tm_TnoaXess: why you need to clear swap?10:38
Stormzoekergoodevenig everyone10:38
YorokobiApollo^101, if its build correctly10:38
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Yorokobis/build/built/10:38
Black_CatPowerking89670: of course, when multiverse repo is enabled10:38
noaXessfdoving: i think, on ech reboot, my hd run's over.. for 2 minutes.. reading and reading.. and then all is ok..10:39
Powerking89670which is done how?10:39
Apollo^101Yorokobi, hmm. so can i build it10:39
Apollo^101?10:39
Tm_TnoaXess: swap is "erased" in shutdown so ...10:39
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Powerking89670im new to having to do a million tihngs to get one something to work correctly so bear with me :-/10:40
YorokobiApollo^101, can, yes. Want to, though? I haven't built my own kernel since I switched to Ubuntu from Debian.10:40
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YorokobiApollo^101, ... and started using grub instead of LILO10:40
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Black_CatPowerking89670: choose "Manage repositories" from Adept menu, you will get a content of  /etc/apt/sources.list file. You should check all the uncommented lines ending with universe, and click this word to add a space and a multiverse word10:41
Black_Catit looks like this for me: deb http://debian.charite.de/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse10:41
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Apollo^101Yorokobi, which kernel are you using right now?10:41
YorokobiApollo^101, the latest one for my release.10:41
noaXesshm.. ok just a reboot10:42
Black_Catof course you can edit the file itself, using Alt-F2 and type: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list10:42
YorokobiApollo^101, which, in the case of my current workstation, is edgy (2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP)10:42
Black_CatPowerking89670: hope this helps10:42
Powerking89670It does (I think) lemme follow my instinct :p10:43
Black_CatPowerking89670: end when you perform "Fetch updates", enter search filter libxine-extracodecs, they should be there10:43
Powerking89670Im fetching now :D10:43
Black_Cat:)10:44
unix_infidelanyone here done an feisty alpha to beta upgrade with dist-upgrade and noticed any problems?10:44
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sparrwwhats a good gui diff tool that can handle remote files (sftp specifically) and can do per-line merging?10:44
Black_Cat(i discovered that stuff for myself 2 days ago, so it's fresh and hot in memory :))10:44
jhutchins!away > technikk`10:44
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Apollo^101Yorokobi, iam using the same10:45
Powerking89670I tried libxine but didnt see one that looked anyware similar to libxine-extracodecs10:45
q_,10:45
Yorokobisparrw, hsftp10:45
Powerking89670I seen some libxine10:45
Apollo^101ok10:45
fdovingjnowka: more info on how we can resolve your problem is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLaptopKeycodes10:45
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Black_CatPowerking89670: maybe you didn't have multiverse yet10:45
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melkoris the 2.6.20-13 kernel a stable release?10:46
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terran4000melkor: works fine for me on my laptop ... but breaks on my desktop10:46
Apollo^101does any body knows when kubuntu fiesty (non beta) the reall final one, will be released?10:46
YorokobiApollo^101, sometime this month10:47
Powerking89670I see libxine-main10:47
Yorokobiprobably10:47
jnowkafdoving are you still here10:47
fdovingjnowka: yes.10:47
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jnowkathe bug-report is #10255810:47
fdovingjnowka: ok. thanks.10:47
Black_CatPowerking89670: can you pastebin you sources.list? maybe somekinda problem there10:47
jnowkafdoving: np10:47
Apollo^101Yorokobi, are you sure?10:47
YorokobiApollo^101, the version is 7.04. 04 for April, 7 for 200710:48
melkormy laptop went down with feisty, and I think I got that kernel from the unstable repositories10:48
Apollo^101Yorokobi, ok. how will i be able to upgrade to fiesty if i am using edgy 6.10?   through live cd?10:48
Powerking89670hold on Black_Cat10:48
Powerking89670gimme a sec10:48
jnowkaI have got to get to class, ty for your help10:48
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Black_CatPowerking89670: i'm not going anywhere withing next couple of hours10:49
terran4000melkor: heh, from what I have seen. the newest feisty kernel is pretty good ... except it lacks support for some slightly older hardware (like my motherboard)10:49
Black_Cat:)10:49
YorokobiApollo^101, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade (for now)10:49
carrot_thanks for the help.  things are compiling nicely now.10:49
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YorokobiApollo^101, that may change when feisty is actually released.10:49
Powerking89670http://www.swgemods.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20070403164929-296310:49
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chr1831how can i let knetworkmanager use my wallet without my password everyboot?10:50
melkorterran4000, what is the latest feisty kernel?10:50
terran4000Yorokobi: I wouldn't recommend upgrading to feisty from stable on slightly older hardware ... no offense ment.10:50
terran4000melkor: latest? no idea ... I just use whatever the repo's have. .13 I think10:50
Apollo^101Yorokobi, no. i dont want to upgrade by internet. i prefer by cd. if i corrupt my installation. i could reinstall any time by c10:51
Apollo^101cd10:51
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YorokobiApollo^101, dunno10:51
chr1831anyone?10:51
Powerking89670I aggree Apollo. I always feel good knowing I have my LiveCDs :D10:51
Apollo^101ok10:51
ThalanoxDoes feisty have Beryl pre-installed on it?10:51
chr1831not yet?10:51
fdovingjnowka: can you please try to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch ?10:51
ThalanoxliveCDs are fun.10:51
melkorterran4000, so do I, but I included the unstable repository to try and get madwifi and then I had a couple hundred new updates10:52
Powerking89670liveCDs make my job at annoying my IT's at school so much easier10:52
ThalanoxI've got around 4. 5 if you count the ubuntu and kubuntu as different10:52
Powerking89670if they are dumb enough to leave the bios unpassworded and ready to boot to disk before HD. I see it as my right to boot to Kubuntu in school :D10:52
melkorterran4000, I think that is what killed my computer, I put an unstable kernel on...10:52
Powerking89670Black_Cat: In case you missed it10:53
Powerking89670http://www.swgemods.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20070403164929-296310:53
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terran4000melkor: including the unstable repo's will do that. The stable repos are ... well, stable! Thus they won't kill your computer. Unstable are generally usable but are bug prone and can easily break something10:53
Powerking89670I love breaking things. Windows was always made of glass and I was always throwing rocks :D10:54
Black_CatPowerking89670: sorry, i did miss it. checking it now...10:54
Powerking89670its cool10:54
Powerking89670:D10:54
Powerking89670it was my fault10:54
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terran4000unstable repos have constant updates to them. It's kinda like: "OHH! I fixed this lets submit it!" Unstable isn't well tested and it's sometimes just a quick patch10:54
melkorI have two bootable partitions now, I don't want one to be a bootable partition.10:54
Mynthonhttp://www.voinaroz.lv/?auk=2i1i18g2oxz10:55
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melkorcan I just delete the files off of it?10:55
terran4000two bootable partitions? you mean you have two partitions with two os'es installed on em?10:55
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Black_CatPowerking89670: multiverse was NOT enabled10:56
chr1831can i have knetworkmanager use the wallet without the password?10:56
melkorone is fiesty, that broke...and the other is fiesty that I just installed.10:56
Black_CatPowerking89670: make sure every adept instance including apt-get is not working10:56
Powerking89670really?10:56
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Black_Catand fix this file manually10:56
melkorI didn't want to erase all of my data.10:56
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jhutchinsmelkor: Just don't boot to it.10:57
Powerking89670can u paste me what it SHOULD look like?10:57
fdovingchr1831: not without the wallet password, no.10:57
Powerking89670because I dont see how I enable/disable things in the file10:57
Black_CatPowerking89670: you added it in some places, but the thing is - you missed really important places10:57
chr1831im tired of typing in my password every login.......10:57
melkorI want to tie up the loose ends though.10:57
terran4000melkor: you can also just remove the line from /boot/grub/menu.lst that boots to that10:57
Powerking89670I used Adept to Enable/Disable10:57
Black_CatPowerking89670: check the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"10:58
Yorokobichr1831, security is not convenient all the time10:58
chr1831i don't care about security :)10:58
fdovingchr1831: that's kinda the idea behind the wallet.10:58
chr1831(when it comes to my wep key)10:58
Apollo^101thanks all10:58
Yorokobichr1831, use windows10:58
Black_CatPowerking89670: this one will be enough to make things right.10:58
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chr1831i mean i care but i don't care :D10:58
chr1831cant i just give kwifimanager my password and it access it without asking me?10:59
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melkorDamn when I did the feisty update with only the standard repositories uncommented it was 1/3 of the d/load size.10:59
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fdovingchr1831: try. i'm not sure it's that easy. maybe kwlan can do that. not sure.11:00
Yorokobichr1831, if its WEP (and not WPA) then, yes. You can keep knetworkmanager "offline" and use wlassistant11:00
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Powerking89670ok, but how exactly do I uncomment it IE what makes it a comment11:00
Yorokobichr1831, which does not use the wallet11:00
chr1831its wpa :D11:00
fdovingPowerking89670: a # at the beginning of the line makes the line a comment.11:00
Black_CatPowerking89670: it is not commented now, just add multiverse word after the universe word in the end11:01
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Yorokobichr1831, you could configure/use wpa_supplicant then kwifimanager ... good luck though. It took me two hours to get it working11:02
Black_CatPowerking89670: it's Enable/Disable right-click menu option in Adept.11:02
Black_Cat(uncomment/comment respectively)11:02
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budfdoving,how do I encrypt my email11:02
Yorokobi!info kgpg11:03
ubotukgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 445 kB, installed size 1404 kB11:03
Yorokobi!info kgpg > bud11:04
Yorokobibud, that's one way11:04
fdovingbud, checkout kmenu -> run command, input 'help:/kmail/pgp.html' and run.11:04
livingdaylightI came across this site http://www.undergroundsatellite.com/index-2.html its about having sattelite televion through one's computer using their software, but Alas, it is for windows users only AGAIN. I wondered if there is any way I can as a Linux user also get Sattelite televsion through my computer?11:04
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Powerking89670yay it worked thanks Black_Cat :D11:05
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Black_CatPupenoR: glad to help. you can't imagine the extent i was happy to when i heard mp3 playing :)11:06
Black_Catsorry11:06
fdovinglivingdaylight: do a search for satellite on packges.ubuntu.com , we don't support underground activities though.11:06
Black_CatPowerking89670:  glad to help. you can't imagine the extent i was happy to when i heard mp3 playing :)11:06
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Powerking89670I imagine ill be the same :d11:06
terran4000"Need to get 103MB of updates ... 1003KB will be fried" heh, I love debian ^^11:06
Powerking89670ive been lost without my music!11:06
Levo_75In what repository is wine?11:07
Powerking89670Sweet, it works :D11:07
Yorokobiterran4000, fried or freed?11:07
Powerking89670I love this channel :p11:07
terran4000haha >< both work :-)11:07
Black_CatPowerking89670: well i've converted 100+ tracks to .ogg and survived the silence :)11:07
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Powerking89670I love everyone who helped me :D11:07
Levo_75You have to buy a ticket for this channel though11:07
livingdaylightfdoving: lol, the site is called undergroundsattelite.. not sure why...but basically it is to do with being able to get satttelite tv via a pc. HAve we got that in Linux?11:07
Powerking89670I dont personally like .ogg11:08
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livingdaylightfdoving: i thought Linux was an underground activity? :D11:08
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t3hwiz0rd-ibooklivingdaylight: all you need is a tv tuner11:08
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YorokobiLevo_75, wine is part of the universe repo11:08
Powerking89670One step closer in my quest to bring down the M$11:08
fdovinglivingdaylight: no idea, probably. have you tried to search google? linux is on top of the world,  not underground at all :)11:08
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t3hwiz0rd-ibooklivingdaylight: a tv tuner and a reciever near by11:08
t3hwiz0rd-ibooki watch satellite tv all the time on my nix box11:08
Black_CatPowerking89670: but it's supported in (k)ubuntu by default. opensource roxx.11:08
Levo_75Yorokobi how do i install it?11:08
livingdaylightt3hwiz0rd-ibook: but this particular software has over 1000 channels from 84 coutnries11:09
Levo_75I have the .deb in my filesystem11:09
Black_Catand .ogg files are generally smaller than .mp3 of the same quality.11:09
t3hwiz0rd-ibooklivingdaylight: oh, if you're looking for specific software that may be different11:09
matthew_can you hear me?11:09
fdovinglivingdaylight: then there is probably nothing similar for linux.11:09
Powerking89670Yes11:09
fdovingmatthew_: yes, we can.11:09
melkorme?11:09
Powerking89670we can hear you matthew_11:09
YorokobiLevo_75, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine11:09
Powerking89670melkor we can hear you too :p11:09
matthew_thanks...our internet access is down right now...I'm thinking it's the DNS servers11:09
Powerking89670Wine is not difficult to install. I did it and I am a nooblet11:09
matthew_cause obviously I can talk to you all11:10
fdovingmatthew_: you can try 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as backups. easy to remember.11:10
matthew_ok,thanks11:10
Black_CatPowerking89670, btw - how much MBs to download for Wine to be installed?11:10
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Yorokobi!info wine > Black_Cat11:11
matthew_fdoving, have you heard of openDNS?11:11
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Powerking89670Im not sure It makes u add an entry to Adept11:11
fdovingmatthew_: yes, briefly.11:11
Powerking89670I can look11:11
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Black_CatYorokobi, thanks i have the link already :)11:12
Powerking89670Ive thought about helping wine. believe it or not I can crack formats in my sleep11:12
Black_Catjust 9Mb. cool.11:12
Powerking89670says 42M install size11:12
Powerking89670im assumeing thas MB11:12
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Black_CatPowerking89670: it's the installation size on HDD, not the download MBs :)11:13
terran4000damn you beryl! tempting me so11:13
Powerking89670yes I know11:13
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Powerking89670well 42M tarballed is like what. 31?11:13
terran4000depends what's in it11:14
Powerking89670im assuming the download is in tarball11:14
haloapt-get install msttcorefonts11:14
halodoesn't work!11:14
Black_Catplaintext may be tarballed even with better ratio :)11:14
fdovinghalo: chekc that you have the multiverse repository enabled.11:14
fdoving!multiverse | halo11:14
ubotuhalo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:14
Powerking89670Im sure its on www.winehq.org lemme look11:15
Powerking89670....if FF will open it11:15
Powerking89670of cource I use .org and its .com11:15
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Black_Catand if it won't than the site isn't worth it :)11:15
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Black_Catah11:15
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Powerking89670Must be down or something11:16
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Powerking89670it wont load....11:16
haloif I click on Adept in the menubar I have only the exit option!11:16
Powerking89670this is the part where I would normally suspect winsock, but that cant be right :p11:16
jagerso i tried feisty earlier today11:16
jagerit loaded but my keyboard completely didn't work at all11:16
jagerany clues as to why that may be?11:16
jagerreverted to edgy for the nonce11:16
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jagerits a standard ps2 jobby11:17
melkormy mouse/sound card/wireless card stopped working.11:17
Black_Catjager: /etc/X11/xorg.conf i bet11:17
jageryar wifi stopped was well11:17
melkorwhich kernel are you using?11:17
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haloI don't have Manage repositories while clicking on Adept in the menubar... +_+11:17
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terran4000feisty has too many issues for me to use it on something that I 'need'11:17
jageron edgy?  2.6.17-10-generic11:18
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maurohalo: did you just install ?11:18
mauroterran4000: feisty is still beta :P11:18
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fdovinghalo: what about the view menu?11:18
jagerthe disk i had was one of the release cantidates for edgy from many moons ago11:18
jagerupdating now11:18
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soulriderlol, jager , isnt it better to just download a new iso ?11:19
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jageralso tried sabayon (gentoo) just for kicks and i couldn't get wifi working there either11:19
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haloit's in Italian, I can try a translation, there's "Review modification"11:19
terran4000haha, I know it's beta ... but they stil didn't fix the raid issue, and they managed to remove drivers for my network cards. I'm currently going to Arch linux on my desktop11:19
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jagerwell i would have but i didn't have net access in either sabayon or feisty11:19
melkorjager, I need madwifi to get wireless working11:19
jagerand no other PC11:19
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haloI checked the box with "unsupported software" and "proprietary software"11:19
soulriderterran4000: right now im on Arch11:19
gaesorry guys, need some hand with wine and possibly the attention of a person enough for a PM11:19
malcherah thank you fdoving11:19
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haloand now I can see mstruetype-..11:20
gaedon't worry, no porno11:20
malcheroops :P11:20
soulriderterran4000: the people on IRC seem to be mostly a55holes though11:20
malcherwhrong shell11:20
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jagerproblem was no wifi and thus no way to research fixes on sabayon, similarly on feisty but with the added problem of no keyboard11:20
soulriderterran4000: my fonts look kinda weird on arch though11:20
soulridersome sites are unreadable11:20
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jageri've never had a linux fail to use a ps2 keyboard11:20
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terran4000soulrider: haha, great .... well, I just want it to work and some 'new-ish' features and be costumized for my desktop11:20
soulriderterran4000: you are aware you have to install everything right ?11:21
terran4000soulrider: as long as Arch works (functionally), I can deal with the looks later11:21
soulridereven xorg11:21
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terran4000soulrider: yeah, not a problem11:21
soulrideroh, i suggest11:21
soulridercopy the kubuntu corg.conf11:21
soulridersave it to use on arch11:21
soulrideri couldnt do it myself, so i copied my kubuntu config over11:21
soulrider:P11:21
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terran4000soulrider: I started out with pure beg ages ago11:21
soulrideroh, i see11:22
terran4000lol, yeah. I'm saving a lot of config data now.11:22
gaeSorry if I repeat, I need a hand with wine, anybody knows it but good?11:22
soulriderive been using linux for less than a year11:22
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soulridergae all i know is i can use it to load utorrent :P11:22
terran4000only reason I went to kubuntu was because I'm tired of configuring EVERY thing my self in linux and kubuntu seemed to mostly do things for me. Though beryl sucked and I wanted it ^^11:22
soulridermaybe if you ask in #wine ?11:22
jagerdoesn't utorrent have a linux native client?11:22
gaesoulrider: winehq11:23
soulriderterran4000: you can have beryl on kubuntu no problem11:23
Powerking89670why not use KTorrent?11:23
soulriderktortent isnt good enough for me11:23
gaeindeed why not Ktorrent11:23
Powerking89670its in the Adept Package Manager, couldnt get any easier to install things11:23
jagerktorrent is pretty nice11:23
soulrideri installed deluge on Arch, but for some reason it wont load11:23
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terran4000soulrider: oh I know ... I still have it running on my semi-working system. it's just that Feisty broke my desktop. No network, no working raid, no video acceleration ... ect ect11:23
maki_i can remove all the kernels exept that what grub loads?!11:24
terran4000Kubunty Edgy worked just fine ... except for beryl.11:24
soulriderterran4000: its still beta!! :P11:24
soulridereveryone upgrades to feisty and then complains, i got a feeling that feisty will be a bit too buggy for my taste11:24
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soulridermaki yes11:24
terran4000soulrider: yeah yeah ... though from my I've seen so far, feisty is going the wrong way in terms of compatibility with older hardware11:24
maki_ok thatnks11:24
soulrideryes terran4000 i feel the same way11:25
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fdovingterran4000: that's actually not just feisty, the entire 2.6.x series of the linux kernel is going that way.11:25
jagerterran4000: i got beryl running on edgy last time i had this loaded11:25
Stormzoekerterron4000: got feisty up and running on a very old Dell GX1 :P11:25
terran4000I run Feisty on this laptop and it rans damn well. only issues I ran into were also with beryl when I really started messing with it :-)11:25
jagerof course now i have to start over but it seemed trivial enough11:25
soulrideri have berylk on edgy! :P11:25
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terran4000jager: yeah, beryl on edgy works damn well I have to admit ... except with kde >_>11:26
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raindo1In Kubuntu FIrefox and Thunderbird work perfectly.  In my Gnome session Firefox can't do dns lookups, and Thunderbird won't connect at all.  What could be causing this?  (It's not my firewall as Konqueror works perfectly in both sessions.)11:26
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jageri had it running under kde11:26
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jagerwhat didn't work for you?11:26
terran4000jager: I could never get the kicker and taskbar to work right. even with the 'compiz' patches for both11:26
jagerweird11:27
PhinnFortworks here11:27
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terran4000it's a known bug actually ...11:27
terran4000some people have it, some don't11:27
jagerseemed to work as expected for me11:27
jagerweird11:27
terran4000agreed.11:27
soulrideri allways sued KDE and it worked like charm for me11:27
PhinnForti want to sue KDE too!11:27
jagerlol11:27
terran4000lol11:27
PhinnFort;P11:27
Black_Cat%)))11:28
jageri wanna know why my wifi card doesn't seem to work under anything but edgy out of the box11:28
jager00:09.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)11:28
Black_Catwhy sueing someone who makes real good stuff though :)11:28
jagerthat's a pretty generic card, no?11:28
terran4000edgy is stable and proven to be so ... like debian stable is damn stable on all hardware ...11:28
gaeterran4000: not true11:29
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gaeDapper is the stable one11:29
jagerdoesn't that card use the orinoco module?11:29
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gaeterran4000: edgy is good11:29
terran4000gae: ah you, you are correct, my apologies.11:29
terran4000*ah yes11:29
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jagerubuntu on the desktop, debian on the servers11:29
jagerthat's how i roll11:29
terran4000same11:29
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PhinnFortubuntu on the desktop, kein server;)11:30
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terran4000never had a problem with my two deb servers. ^^ so much less work on those two once I set up em11:30
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terran4000speaking of problems ... is this a known problem: you boot your laptop with the 2nd battery (module bay) in, then decide you want to burn something so you swap in your cd-rom .. but it doesn't work/show up11:31
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terran4000thus you have to reboot to have it show up in /dev ...11:32
terran4000is this common? or just me being an idiot somehow?11:32
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raindo1I get the following error in my gnome session when starting Firefox but not in my kde session.11:34
raindo1/usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7KGlobal23unregisterStaticDeleterEP18KStaticDeleterBase11:34
raindo1/usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/domino.so could not be unloaded11:34
raindo1gedit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN7KGlobal23unregisterStaticDeleterEP18KStaticDeleterBase11:34
raindo1Why would domino.so be throwing this error in gnome?11:34
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terran4000raindo1: seems FF (and the like) are using your KDE libs for most things11:36
terran4000did you install kubuntu originally?11:36
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raindo1terran4000:  no.  I have always had ubuntu installed initially and installed a kde session afterwards.11:36
raindo1This behavior just started recently.11:37
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raindo1In KDE Firefox works just fine, but now, in gnome it can't even do dns lookups correctly.11:37
t3hwiz0rd-ibookheh theres irony11:37
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookits rebeling against its makers11:37
raindo1hehe11:38
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookfirefox fights the system: catch it in theatres this month!11:38
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raindo1If I wasn't on dialup I'd just download Feisty beta and proceed with a clean install to take care of the problem.11:39
jhutchinsraindo1: Is the firefox on your system from ubuntu, or from Mozilla?11:39
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raindo1jhutchins:  it's from ubuntu.11:39
jhutchinsraindo1: You could just try reinstalling.  I'd do it either from the console or within gnome, see if it helps.11:40
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Black_Catpity there wasn't firefox in kubuntu :(11:40
jhutchinsBlack_Cat: Um, yeah, there is.11:40
terran4000Black_Cat: there is ....11:40
Black_Caterm11:40
raindo1jhutchins:  I have considered that.  I guess I'll have to bite that bullet.11:40
Black_Cati used kubuntu6.06 liveCD, and it had NO firefox there...11:40
terran40006.10 would have it11:41
jhutchins!info mozilla-firefox11:41
ubotumozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.3+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 55 kB, installed size 116 kB11:41
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raindo1My other option is to simply forget my gnome session and stay in kde until I can get a Feisty iso.11:42
jhutchinsBlack_Cat: Live CD's have limited resources, and since konqueror is part of KDE, they chose not to duplicate it's function.11:43
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makiwhere can i configure autostarted apps11:43
weedarI can't seem to find my two Sony Ericsson W810i cell phones via the Bluetooth OBEX Client, any suggestions as to why?11:43
Black_Catjhutchins: quite reasonable, but still sad a bit11:43
weedarI got one of the phones to work the other day (this is the first time I've tried the second one)11:43
fdoving!autostart | maki11:43
ubotumaki: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.11:43
jhutchinsBlack_Cat: Oh, I don't think so.  I don't think firefox is all that great.11:43
Black_Catjhutchins: firefox isn't. but i miss those webdev-plugins.11:44
jhutchinsI use konqueror for 99% of what I do.11:44
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jhutchinsQuanta's great for development.11:45
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Hrontore!envy11:46
arihi.11:46
Hrontorehi11:47
terran4000Hiya11:47
ubotuenvy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia911:47
Hrontoreha there it is11:47
Hrontore^^11:47
__huzzah__/close11:47
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AmyRoseI'm curious--does anyone in here know if Konversation can display the background colors of formatted text? I ask because I'm in a channel where people make use of that.11:47
arii'm trying to record my voice with audacity but it doesn't work although i can hear my voice with my speakers11:47
terran4000blarg ... sometimes, I think Feisty is turning into something similar to Vista >_>11:48
arihow could i fix that !%!11:48
ari*!?!11:48
jhutchinsari: Read the audacity docs.11:48
AmyRose!rtfm | jhutchins11:48
PhinnFortterran4000: how so?11:48
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jhutchinsAmyRose: I think that's a configurable option in the settings menu.11:49
arii read them but i didn't find what i was looking for.11:49
terran4000it's removeing older hardware support left and right, thus the min-specs just keep on increasing greatly11:49
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AmyRosejhutchins: I can't find that. I can turn on foreground colors but not background colors11:49
arii might look again...11:49
jhutchinsari: Do you have capture enabled for the mic in your mixer?11:49
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ariin kmixer, yes it is enabled. but audacity doesn't record it.11:50
jhutchinsAmyRose: You're right, I see "Allow colored text", but nothing about backgrounds.11:50
AmyRosejhutchins: I find that odd because the color dialog lets you pick a background color11:51
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AmyRoseLooks like I'll just stick to XChat11:51
Hrontorehow do i use envy11:51
Hrontore?11:51
AmyRoseHrontore: You installed it, right?11:51
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Hrontoreuhh11:51
jhutchinsari: I have two buttons on my mixer, one for "Mute" and one for "Record".11:52
AmyRoseHrontore: Did you download the deb file?11:52
Hrontoreno i dont know how to mess with the deb file11:52
AmyRoseHrontore: Can you use the terminal?11:52
Hrontoreyes11:52
arioh i thought you were talking about kmix wich has more than 2 buttons...11:52
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Hrontoreamyrose: im trying to figure out why my windows games aren't work properly11:53
AmyRoseHrontore: Then just do "sudo dpkg -i name-of-the-deb.deb"11:53
jhutchinsHrontore: What part of "This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here." did you not understand?11:53
AmyRoseHrontore: Linux isn't designed to run Windows games.11:53
Hrontoretrue11:53
AmyRoseHrontore: jhutchins is right.11:53
Hrontorek11:54
Black_CatHrontore: but there are many games for linux :)11:54
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HrontoreI know11:54
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Hrontorefound a lot of them11:54
maki_i dont have nothing in /.kde/Autostart/ and still kopete konversation and amarok are autostarted11:54
AmyRoseHrontore: Do you have an nvidia card?11:54
Hrontorehaha, no, ati11:54
fdovingmaki_: that's because they are saved in the session, ie. you left them running when you logged out.11:55
jhutchinsmaki_: Close them, then log off and log back on again.11:55
maki_il try11:55
AmyRoseI always start with a blank session...11:55
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maki_no11:56
maki_its the same11:56
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AmyRosemaki_: Try going into the System Settings dialog, advanced, and Session manager. Set it to start a blank session11:57
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WopRsalut11:59
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maki_simple as that11:59
maki_i'm realy a n00b11:59
t3hwiz0rd-ibookif not for newbism, could one ever achieve professionalism?12:00
t3hwiz0rd-ibookif not for a beginning, do all things not end? maki_ philosophy!!12:00
t3hwiz0rd-ibookits okay to be new12:00
t3hwiz0rd-ibookrelax12:00
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maki_that's the problem12:01
maki_i'm not new12:01
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maki_i use linux for 6 monts now12:01
terran4000I think there should be a addition to that philosophy: being new is ok, and welcome even ... if you are open minded and willing to learn :-)12:01
Gtwyis there a website i can search packages on12:01
Gtwybesides using the adept package manager12:01
Gtwyi am not on kubuntu right now but i want to see if a few packages are on there or not12:02
t3hwiz0rd-ibookterran4000: that was what i was going at12:02
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookand trust me maki_ at 6 months in12:02
t3hwiz0rd-ibookyou are still new.. i am 4 years in12:02
t3hwiz0rd-ibookan still new12:02
maki_:)12:02
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maki_it develops to fast12:02
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookuntil i can compile from source a stinger missile to launch at my ex gf's house that runs off of open-source rocket fuel... i'll always be new12:02
budemail is still unencrypted, any ideas?12:02
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terran4000aye ... 5 years here and I still ask plenty of questions about this or that >_>12:03
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terran4000t3hwiz0rd-ibook: lol12:03
t3hwiz0rd-ibookdoh! it kernel paniced!12:03
jhutchinspaclages | Gtwy12:03
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jhutchins!packages | Gtwy12:03
ubotuGtwy: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!12:03
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maki_you have search engine for mozzila12:04
Gtwythanks\12:04
t3hwiz0rd-ibookterran4000: you gave it vodka?12:04
terran4000no .. I drank it. So now I've just kicking it randomly hoping it will work.12:05
terran4000s/drank it/drank that/12:05
t3hwiz0rd-ibookwell if you'll excuse me.. this is one linux nerd who needs a suntan12:06
terran4000traitor!12:06
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookwhat? i like being pale and all but when i try to hide in the dark im sick of people calling me radioactive boy12:07
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t3hwiz0rd-ibookim so white that i radiate darkness! blaah12:07
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terran4000that just means you not using correct monitors!12:08
PhinnFortadjust your gamma, mkay?12:08
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karel-janhello12:10
karel-jancan someone help me with this error? The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.12:10
wolferinekarel-jan, did you?12:10
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karel-jandoes someone know how to fix this,12:11
karel-jan?12:11
wolferinekarel-jan, did you?12:11
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Yorokobikarel-jan, have you tried "running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem"?12:12
karel-jandid I do what wolferine?12:12
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karel-janyes12:12
chalcednyi'm back trying to help my husband with his kubuntu box. if this is not the right place, tell me, but what he has now is it froze and won't reboot.12:12
makiwhat is usplash12:12
wolferinekarel-jan, if you READ it, it tells you what you need to do12:12

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