[12:17] <itay> Hi all, how can I disable loading a kde session in vncserver ?
[12:18] <wimpies> Adjust date and time of my clock refuses to connect to any time server pool. ntpd is able to connect to the pool but AFAIK returns the wrong date.  Timezone seems to be OK
[12:27] <Black_Cat> i'm trying to use Ark to open a 7z archive, but it says i don't have a util for that. same about unrar. how do i fix it, what should i download?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> 7z ?
[12:29] <kristjan> why does my laptop occasionaly become so slow that i have to shut it down with the power button? it usually happens when browsing the internet or viewing/editing larger images.
[12:30] <Black_Cat> 7-zip :)
[12:30] <Black_Cat> .7z is the extension
[12:30] <tux> kristjan: java or flash?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> !zip
[12:30] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[12:30] <kristjan> tux: both or neither
[12:31] <tux> websites with flash or java will slow the pc down
[12:31] <kristjan> tux: it can become slow when receiving a message with kopete
[12:31] <tux> happens here to
[12:31] <kristjan> even pure text message
[12:31] <tux> hm no that's not supposed to happen kristjan
[12:31] <Black_Cat> liars :) it can NOT be opened with ark :) but i'll check that link, thanks :)
[12:32] <kristjan> it happened today. i was browsing the internet and chatting at the same time. someone sent me 4 lines of text in kopete and it took about 30 seconds to switch the tab
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Black_Cat, it can be extracted , but it may need to be installes, which is different
[12:32] <BluesKaj> err installed
[12:33] <karel-jan> where can I find this on kubuntu? System > Preferences > Sessions
[12:34] <tux> how much RAM do you have kristjan
[12:34] <kristjan> 512 minus the integrated video
[12:34] <kristjan> which is 64
[12:34] <tux> that could be a problem
[12:34] <kristjan> the integrated video or 512 ram?
[12:34] <alphi_> 512 ram
[12:34] <tux> the RAM
[12:34] <kristjan> hm
[12:35] <karel-jan> under system in the startupmenu are no preferences
[12:35] <tux> perhaps i could make a internet share with extra RAM :p
[12:35] <kristjan> i'd think that there would be problem if i had under 256
[12:35] <alphi_> karel why do you need it ?
[12:36] <karel-jan> to add beryl to the startup session
[12:36] <Black_Cat> karel-jan: go to System settings - panels - menu, add a "settings" option and you will find it :)
[12:36] <kristjan> i used to have a celeron 300 with 196 ram on windows xp running gta3
[12:36] <SSJ_GZ> 512 MB is *plenty* of RAM for Kubuntu.
[12:36] <kristjan> i would think so too
[12:36] <tux> really?
[12:37] <SSJ_GZ> tux: Yep.  I ran it for ages on 256MB.
[12:37] <tux> SSJ_GZ: with integrated video memory
[12:37] <SSJ_GZ> SSJ_GZ: With a Savage S3!
[12:37] <tux> yeah, and after those ages, it was finally booted?
[12:38] <karel-jan> where do I find panels?
[12:38] <kristjan> i used to have xp before, i had no problems with it's performance.
[12:38] <kristjan> its*
[12:38] <SSJ_GZ> tux: Yes.  256MB is not a small amount of memory.
[12:38] <tux> thinks about a Core duo laptop with 512mb video mem and 2gb ram
[12:39] <tux> i even have double the video memory
[12:39] <tux> and 8 times the ram
[12:39] <tux> w00y
[12:39] <tux> w00t
[12:40] <Black_Cat> karel-jan: it's uppermost tab of System settings: appearance, _PANEL_, desktop...
[12:40] <kristjan> the main thing i am annoyed about that kubuntu doesn't reserve any memory so i could close the applications
[12:40] <kristjan> about is that kubuntu*
[12:41] <tux> good recovery kristjan :D
[12:41] <SSJ_GZ> kristjan: Something odd going on there.  How many apps do you have open at once? What kind? Do you use Firefox or Azureus?
[12:41] <karel-jan> Black_Cat:  I'm using kubuntu 7.04 beta
[12:41] <karel-jan> there are no tabs
[12:42] <kristjan> usually i have firefox, kopete, amarok, konqueror and gimp running at once
[12:42] <Black_Cat> karel-jan: oops sorry, got 6.06 here...
[12:42] <karel-jan> np Black_Cat
[12:42] <kristjan> and kane noo
[12:42] <kristjan> kate*
[12:42] <kristjan> and konversation
[12:42] <karel-jan> can someone else help me with this problem?
[12:43] <pingveno> I'm having a bit of a problem with event scheduling on Kontact. There isn't an AM/PM, so whenever I try to set the time to, say, 3:00 in the afternoon it moves the event to 3:00 AM.
[12:43] <Alda> write 15:00 :D
[12:44] <zorglu_> q. i did 'move to trash' by mistake, and would like to get my files back ? where are they ? where is the 'trash' ?
[12:44] <pingveno> Alda: I think I already tried that, but I'll check again
[12:44] <Black_Cat> zorglu_: just type an URL trash:/
[12:45] <zorglu_> thanks
[12:45] <pingveno> It just says that the start time is invalid
[12:45] <alphi_> karel-jan, i just googled your problem and the solution on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=397132 seems to be "ln -s /usr/bin/beryl-manager ~/.kde/Autostart"
[12:45] <Black_Cat> sorry for offt
[12:45] <mefisto_gofish> mmm I do love my beryl
[12:46] <Alda> pingveno: then I'm afriad I have no clue, never used the program myself
[12:46] <pingveno> Yeah
[12:46] <alphi_> no idea if it will work, but it's worth a shot
[12:46] <kristjan> i wish i could use beryl too, but that would make my laptop's performance even worse
[12:46] <pingveno> Alda:No surprises there
[12:47] <mefisto_gofish> kristjan: too bad
[12:47] <pingveno> It's not really high profile in the general Linux world.
[12:48] <mefisto_gofish> pingveno: This is in kontact where you're having this problem?
[12:49] <pingveno> yup
[12:49] <pingveno> I just started using it a few days ago, so I don't have much knowledge of it
[12:49] <mefisto_gofish> pingveno: hmm... here kontact has a little am/pm dropdown next to the box where times are entered
[12:49] <pingveno> Weird
[12:49] <pingveno> My version doesn't
[12:50] <mefisto_gofish> pingveno: perhaps you haven't set up your kde time and date preferences for that
[12:50] <Black_Cat> speaking of witch... how can i disable korganizer so it won't appear in tray when i've launched kontact?
[12:50] <pingveno> The times are repeated in the drop down box twice
[12:52] <geekytrent> what's a good notebook to get that has suspend/hibernate working correctly?
[12:52] <pingveno> My laptop, a Thinkpad T43, works perfectly
[12:53] <geekytrent> so thinkpad's are the way to go?
[12:53] <pingveno> well, they're *one* way to go
[12:53] <pingveno> They're pretty expensive, though
[12:53] <pingveno> Sturdy, though
[12:53] <pingveno> great keyboard
[12:54] <geekytrent> haha, right....i've been reading for a while on what works/doesn't work from tuxmobil, and just having a hard time finding one that "just works" or that I know I can get to work
[12:57] <`AnDy`> what good i can do with kubuntu and with one is better kubuntu or ubuntu ?
[12:58] <geekytrent> `AnDy`: either will do, it's just a personal choice of gnome (ubuntu) or kde (kubuntu)
[12:58] <`AnDy`> ok
[12:58] <`AnDy`> so no difference ?
[12:58] <Black_Cat> only about desktop manager
[12:59] <`AnDy`> ok
[12:59] <geekytrent> `AnDy`: nope, in fact, you can have both kde and gnome on either
[12:59] <Black_Cat> and little specific things you are unlikely to run into :)
[12:59] <`AnDy`> :)
[01:00] <`AnDy`> 8-) i thout i can install linux and make game server but now i see its not so easy
[01:00] <`AnDy`> dont understand shit...to be unest
[01:01] <vit> hola a todos!!!
[01:02] <`AnDy`> hmm i dint understand that movie stuff :S...how to get codecs
[01:02] <troy> hey guys, I'm looking for a package that contains a very specific file - is there any way to search for this somehow?
[01:02] <vit> buenas alguien sabo que debo hacer para ir al canal en espaol?
[01:03] <Black_Cat> !es ! ubuntu
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es ! ubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <troy> it used to be in the ia32libs stuff, and now it's gone...
[01:03] <Black_Cat> !es | ubuntu
[01:03] <ubotu> ubuntu: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:03] <safer> How do I solve the problem of pc not shutting down completely?
[01:03] <Black_Cat> vt, ^^^
[01:04] <`AnDy`> btw i think you know the problem...when i turn my PC off from kubuntu then its not turning PC off )
[01:04] <`AnDy`> whats wrong ?
[01:05] <Powerking89670> Is there anyway to change the icon of the "Shortcuts" you make?
[01:05] <utnubuk> l
[01:06] <troy> nevermind, I just snagged the x86 packages, did dpkg -x, and manually copied the lib into /lib32 :/
[01:06] <geekytrent> Powerking89670: yep, go to properties of the shortcuts, click on the icon
[01:06] <Black_Cat> i have downloaded 10 games or so, but they won't appear in Kmenu, though i can launch them thru Alt-F2. What's wrong?
[01:06] <Powerking89670> doh, why didnt I do that :p
[01:07] <geekytrent> Powerking89670: don't feel bad...i've been missing obvious stuff today too ;P
[01:07] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: you mean the bottom-left arrow or the icon itself?
[01:07] <Powerking89670> Well after doing hard stuff for hours, I didnt exspect it to be so easy
[01:08] <Powerking89670> I got it black_cat, but thanks for offering help :d
[01:08] <Black_Cat> :)
[01:08] <Powerking89670> :D*
[01:08] <Black_Cat> yw
[01:09] <Black_Cat> i just don't get it - why don't icons appear in Kmenu right after install? weird.
[01:12] <Powerking89670> Who here hates writing reports as much as I do?
[01:13] <mefisto_gofish> I love it.  I've got a little script that lets me plug in an outline and it generates nonsensical babble to fill the rest in
[01:13] <mefisto_gofish> best reports ever
[01:13] <Powerking89670> lol
[01:13] <Black_Cat> not me. I just love it. especially bugreports :)
[01:13] <ergerg> I need help...I installed ATI drivers and I gues I set resolution too high and now I cant get my monitor to work again under Kubuntu..
[01:14] <ergerg>  is there any way to reconfigure xorg server to previous state?
[01:14] <Black_Cat> ergerg: but you can get to terminal?
[01:14] <ergerg> not at all
[01:14] <knapp> Does anyone know what the deal is with flash videos not playing after being paused? or is this problem specific to me?
[01:14] <ergerg> at this point i cant reach graphical interface
[01:15] <Powerking89670> Is there a way to make it so when u click a link it opens firefox instead of Konqueror?
[01:15] <Powerking89670> because I hate Konqueror, plain and simple
[01:15] <Black_Cat> ergerg: graphical interface is not required, you need to hit Ctrl-Alt-F1
[01:15] <ergerg> because my monitor is telling that resolution is not optimal
[01:16] <Black_Cat> ergerg: enter your login and password there, and try something like: startx -- -depth=16
[01:16] <Black_Cat> i had the same situation
[01:16] <ergerg> ok
[01:16] <geekytrent> hrm, i'm thinking about getting the 3000 series from lenovo ...cheap and seems have pretty good support.
[01:16] <ergerg>  i just wot tp present my problem corectly
[01:19] <Black_Cat> and if you get to virtual terminal, you can edit xorg server configuration by: sudo edit text/plain:/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:19] <ergerg> tnx I try to set my monitor res as You told me to but if You have a lint to help page dealing to that specific ishue pls tell me.
[01:20] <ergerg> thx to You all...:=)
[01:21] <karel-jan> how do you do a hard kill?
[01:22] <Dasnipa`> karel-jan, hard kill?
[01:23] <karel-jan> like a ctrl alt del- end program
[01:23] <karel-jan> when a program crached
[01:23] <Dasnipa`> well theres xkill, and also you could obtain the process id of the app you want to kill and kill -9 <process id>
[01:24] <Black_Cat> karel-jan: or Alt-F2, type "xkill" and you get skull with bones cursor to kill any window you like.
[01:24] <Dasnipa`> in console if the app the graphical xkill and then click on the crashed app and it dies. otherwise ps -aux | grep <program> to find PID and then kill -9 <PID>
[01:24] <genii> karel-jan: Try first ctrl-C
[01:25] <karel-jan> kill doesn't work
[01:25] <karel-jan> I'll try a restart
[01:25] <Dasnipa`> heh
[01:25] <Dasnipa`> silly ex-windows users OMG program crash restart needed
[01:26] <Black_Cat> maybe not "ex" even :)))) btw, doesn't ctrl-alt-backspace stops all tasks in progress?
[01:26] <genii> Just kills X server
[01:27] <Dasnipa`> yeah
[01:27] <Black_Cat> but tasks remain?
[01:27] <genii> any daemons etc keep right on running
[01:27] <Dasnipa`> Black_Cat, my favorite windows user using linux question is 'how do i defrag?'
[01:28] <genii> Dasnipa`: Yeah thats a classic :)
[01:28] <Black_Cat> Dasnipa`: ROFL!
[01:28] <genii> or: How do I rename files?
[01:28] <Dasnipa`> i swear i argued with this one dude for 30 minutes he was absolutely convinced he had to defrag so his install wouldnt slow down and no matter how many times i explained it to him he was like 'so how do i do it?'
[01:29] <genii> Dasnipa`: Same deal here but the guy kept wanting to know what the rename command was. you couldn't wrap around the idea that mv IS rename
[01:29] <Black_Cat> in my case it's "how to get adobe photoshop working under linux"... job-specific, you know...
[01:30] <Dasnipa`> genii, shoulda made him a custom .bashrc where you did something like alias rename='mv'
[01:30] <MuJ> hrrmpph
[01:30] <Black_Cat> genii: really strange because on win32 filemanagers rename IS move :)
[01:31] <Dasnipa`> Black_Cat, in soviet russia fsck you ;)
[01:31] <MuJ> does it actually say:"move?"
[01:31] <genii> Black_Cat: I remember it used to be in DOS   ren     or something
[01:32] <Black_Cat> MuJ: well, i meant it said "Rename/Move" in things like FAR manager or TotalCmdr
[01:33] <MuJ> those aren't default.. most people don't even know what those are
[01:33] <MuJ> but if it says "rename" on default windows file manager then it IS rename.. no matter how it works.. that's how people see it in their minds :P
[01:33] <Black_Cat> here in "soviet russia" it's much more popular than default explorer :)
[01:34] <genii> Yes, the new command must be named like the old one
[01:34] <MuJ> and in norhtern korea cats eat people? :)
[01:34] <Black_Cat> lol
[01:35] <Black_Cat> got to sleep a few hours. see you later guyz!
[01:37] <geekytrent> so anything new going on?
[01:38] <MuJ> sooo.. not really
[01:39] <geekytrent> exciting lol
[01:40] <karel-jan> my audio is not working
[01:41] <gost87> no saben espaol
[01:41] <karel-jan> can i download some audio drivers for creative on kubuntu 7.04
[01:41] <karel-jan> ,
[01:41] <karel-jan> ?
[01:41] <MuJ> !es
[01:41] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:42] <jhutchins> karel-jan: 7.04 is in #ubuntu+1
[01:42] <jhutchins> karel-jan: I understand that there is a new kernel in the pipeline that will solve some of the common sound problems.
[01:44] <Dasnipa`> karel-jan, well that explains a few things... if you dont know a lot about linux then you shouldnt be using a feisty until its out of beta
[01:46] <genii> karel-jan: Do you see a speaker in the bottom right?
[01:47] <Re|ent|ess> :D
[01:47] <Re|ent|ess> LAWLS
[01:48] <genii> if so, if no red X over it then the system sees it properly already. You may need to just right-click on it, open the mixer and un-mute whatever PCM devices
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> :D
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> :D
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> :D
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> :D
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> :D
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> :o
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> sorry
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> /amsg :D
[01:49] <Re|ent|ess> lol
[01:49] <Dasnipa`> Re|ent|ess, oh my that is quite enough of that
[01:50] <Re|ent|ess> ok
[01:50] <Re|ent|ess> sry
[01:51] <Re|ent|ess> so active @ night but now it dead
[01:51] <Re|ent|ess> ECHO
[01:51] <Re|ent|ess> !help
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[01:52] <Re|ent|ess> !feisty
[01:52] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> howdy all
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> is there a md5sum checker already installed with fresh 6.10 cd install?
[02:03] <ebotvine> katani, yeah, ethernet
[02:08] <kofler> Is there a way to get w to print out the full user names just as who does? With w, after six or seven letters, the usernames get chopped off.
[02:08] <chemicalvamp> can u see them in user managment?
[02:09] <kofler> ?
[02:09] <ebotvine> weedar: I could, though. try dystopianray's suggestion
[02:09] <chemicalvamp> wat you mean in the konversation?
[02:10] <kofler> chemicalvamp: Are you talking to me?
[02:10] <ebotvine> foremost doesnt do the job
[02:10] <chemicalvamp> yeah
[02:10] <sound_fx> Hello, I'm having trouble installing the flashplugin-nonfree, it seems to fail every time for me, could someone help?
[02:10] <chemicalvamp> kofler, sorry nevermind i dont know what you mean
[02:11] <ebotvine> can anyone here use flightgear
[02:11] <kofler> :(
[02:11] <chemicalvamp> sound_fx, what archetecture?
[02:11] <sound_fx> Um, I'm using Kubuntu x86?
[02:11] <ebotvine> Jucato: new libs?
[02:11] <sound_fx> Is that what you wanted to know?
[02:11] <SolidSource> sound_fx: in konsole type "sudo apt-get install -f"
[02:11] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, what error do you get?
[02:12] <chemicalvamp> SolidSource, so you use a pentium processor
[02:12] <kkerwin> Does Kubuntu's default edgy install include a firewall, or is that an optional package?
[02:12] <Yorokobi> kkerwin, it comes with iptables but you have to configure it.
[02:12] <ebotvine> catid: which applet? the one for the process...
[02:12] <kkerwin> Yorokobi: Thank you.
[02:12] <kkerwin> Yorokobi: Can you recommend a good KDE gui?
[02:12] <SolidSource> sound_fx: then type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" .....if you have the repo, it should install or give error message
[02:13] <Yorokobi> kkerwin, lokkit or shorewall are good tools. Neither is a gui
[02:13] <sound_fx> ok
[02:13] <sound_fx> I have blue screen
[02:13] <ebotvine> weedar: I can do  in Konsole... check Konsole's Settings -> and setup LAMP
[02:13] <sound_fx> Saying install? I'm going to pick yes
[02:13] <sound_fx> "automatic installation failed due to network problems or upstream changes"
[02:14] <SolidSource> sound_fx: huh? how are you trying to install?
[02:14] <tmbg> kofler, did you try w/ -s (short)? since it cuts out other information it might print the full usernames
[02:14] <ebotvine> subone: cool..i myself dont take the patience thing too seriously ;)
[02:14] <sound_fx> SolidSource: I did your commands, and selected "yes"
[02:14] <Yorokobi> kkerwin, guarddog is the iptables gui for KDE
[02:14] <ebotvine> lol
[02:15] <sound_fx> You want me to paste everything?
[02:15] <kkerwin> Yorokobi: Thank you very much. I'll look into it, as well as KMyFirewall.
[02:15] <SolidSource> sound_fx: paste-bin
[02:15] <kofler> tmbg: It doesn't, I tried that.
[02:15] <sound_fx> paste-bin
[02:15] <ebotvine> ok waylandbill do i view ONLY the packages on the dvd in the BACKGROUND?
[02:15] <sound_fx> how does that work?
[02:15] <Yorokobi> !paste
[02:15] <SolidSource> sound_fx: http://pastebin.sk/en/
[02:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:16] <Re|ent|ess> !paste | sound_fx
[02:16] <ubotu> sound_fx: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:16] <SolidSource> ....
[02:16] <Re|ent|ess> i just wanted to do that
[02:16] <Re|ent|ess> :D
[02:16] <ebotvine> any idea?
[02:16] <sound_fx> SolidSouce: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13611/
[02:17] <sound_fx> That obviously doesn't show the accept screen
[02:17] <ebotvine> crazyrobot: change your console font to the retailers. what ever walmart carries that's what i was asking....
[02:17] <kumamoto> what is the deal with kubuntu using gstreamer?
[02:17] <SolidSource> sound_fx: thats fine, do you have firefox installed?
[02:18] <sound_fx> No
[02:18] <ebotvine> but yeah at any rate, cygwin is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the MBR
[02:18] <Re|ent|ess> sound_fx  use the source
[02:18] <ebotvine> look at the blinking cursor
[02:19] <sound_fx> Re|ent|ess, could you go to more detail about that?
[02:19] <kumamoto> can't seem to find a gstreamer engine for amarok or streaming with konqueror
[02:19] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, download the tar.gz from the adobe website
[02:19] <Re|ent|ess> sound_fx do you know how to compile ?
[02:19] <SolidSource> sound_fx: yeah just do it by source, its as easy as copy-paste
[02:19] <ebotvine> prepares an umbrella for eventual explosion
[02:20] <Re|ent|ess> sound_fx: http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Download_Mozilla_Source_Code
[02:20] <sound_fx> Ok
[02:20] <sound_fx> I have downloaded tar.gz from Adobe website
[02:20] <SolidSource> Re|ent|ess: thats not what we are doing
[02:20] <Yorokobi> why would he want to download the Mozilla source, Re|ent|ess ?
[02:20] <ebotvine> ok
[02:20] <SolidSource> Re|ent|ess: and no compile necessary for flash
[02:20] <Re|ent|ess> i talking firfox
[02:21] <Re|ent|ess> flash = sux
[02:21] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, tar xzvf the.tar.gz to uncompress it
[02:21] <ebotvine> if you man tar or man rsync they have a font for the types of setups I just ran e2fsck on my laptop earlier with no in the Commands field
[02:22] <ebotvine> gotcha..
[02:22] <SolidSource> sound_fx: konqueror shouldn't even need that plugin anyway, it has its own plugin for flash and java
[02:22] <sound_fx> I uncompressed the file
[02:22] <SolidSource> sound_fx: so if firefox isn't installed, there won't be a place for you to copy the files to
[02:22] <kumamoto> anyone know where I can find gstreamer engine
[02:22] <Yorokobi> An alternative to flash is gnash or klash
[02:22] <Arwen> not that they're much of an alternative
[02:23] <SolidSource> Yorokobi: not what I am talking about
[02:23] <sound_fx> I am reaching websites requesting I install flash 9. I installed some sort of flash thing for Konqueror on the page, but I guess it wasn't new enough.
[02:23] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, cd to the new directory, then sudo ./INSTALL (or whatever it is :))
[02:23] <Re|ent|ess> kumamoto: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/extragear-multimedia/amarok/faq13.html
[02:23] <ebotvine> i did that befor i will try again
[02:24] <sound_fx> Ok, asking to close all browsers, I did that. hitting "enter"
[02:25] <sound_fx> Asking to install in /home/user/.mozilla, I will hit "yes"
[02:25] <kumamoto> thanks for that I need to get the engine itself
[02:25] <ebotvine> i'll setup a test system with special mountpoints and see the full user names just as it also changes in word?
[02:25] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, follow the instructions. If you don't have firefox installed then the /home/yourname works
[02:25] <Re|ent|ess> kumamoto yvw
[02:26] <sound_fx> Asks perform another installation, I will hit "no"
[02:26] <Re|ent|ess> lol
[02:26] <ebotvine> sound_fx: thats fine, do you install linux on ipod but i suppose i still have to?
[02:27] <sound_fx> ebotvine: what?
[02:27] <ebotvine> :-)
[02:27] <sound_fx> Ok, seems to have worked! Thanks.
[02:27] <sound_fx> It says to exit session
[02:27] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, np
[02:28] <sound_fx> I will log out and log in again, hopefully I won't be back in this channel. :)
[02:28] <ebotvine> Jucato: I mean why they haven't packaged it for you the way the app works the settings files store the personal changes you make from within the running app.
[02:28] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, depends on what you log out of
[02:29] <sound_fx> Yorokobi: What do you mean by that?
[02:29] <ebotvine> !screensavers
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about screensavers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <Yorokobi> sound_fx, if you log out of KDE, it'll close the IRC program (and everything else in X).
[02:30] <sound_fx> Yorokobi: Ah, ok. :)
[02:30] <chemicalvamp> quick question, http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/7.04/ would the files in the links in the top, have the exact same checksums as the same filename at the bottom of the page?
[02:30] <ebotvine> is that a little more. but i can find the cygwim
[02:32] <Yorokobi> chemicalvamp, yes, they should
[02:33] <ebotvine> Sorry, I don't see that option
[02:33] <Yorokobi> Are you having a conversation with yourself ebotvine ?
[02:33] <philphoto> anyone out there recently switch to feisty?  have any problems?
[02:33] <ebotvine> I think is the same problems with different characters?
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> philphoto, i had some issues lol
[02:33] <Yorokobi> philphoto, yes and yes and no
[02:34] <philphoto> I'm having some issues right now.
[02:34] <chemicalvamp> whats that
[02:34] <ebotvine> chuckles at riuken.
[02:34] <philphoto> Error: KDesktop: "the process for the fild protocol died unexpectedly"
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> did i tell yu what happned to mine?
[02:36] <philphoto> I just got on here, no
[02:37] <chemicalvamp> completed the 5 hour download, and at the end of the 2 hour install i got "upgrade tool crashed" when i rebooted... all i got was a command prompt
[02:37] <philphoto> aw man that's horrible.
[02:37] <chemicalvamp> downloading te iso now
[02:37] <ebotvine> help!!
[02:37] <chemicalvamp> !help
[02:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:38] <kumamoto> damned gstreamer
[02:38] <ebotvine> anyone have any problems?
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> yes lol
[02:39] <chemicalvamp> i need to verify this iso's checksum when its done.. and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto makes now sense to me
[02:39] <ebotvine> ok
[02:39] <firecrotch> !pdf
[02:39] <Yorokobi> heh, chemicalvamp : md5sum <filename>
[02:39] <kumamoto> yes if anyone can direct me to a gstreamer engine package I would be grateful
[02:39] <ubotu> pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/gpdf, evince and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[02:39] <ebotvine> laptop yeah i do like nice terrasync -p 5500 -d //usr/share/games/FlightGear/Scenery
[02:40] <chemicalvamp> gracias
[02:40] <Yorokobi> kumamoto, for what? Amarok?
[02:40] <ebotvine> but almost 2x faster cp time... with cp i'll consider the options there. do you use a /boot partition. before grub can reinstall i'll have to configure it.
[02:41] <kumamoto> for everything that can stream since xine can't stream for shit
[02:41] <kumamoto> from kaffeine to konqueror
[02:41] <chemicalvamp> true xine has never worked for me, but do mind your labguage
[02:41] <ebotvine> crackhead_25 not intrepted. just as who does? With w, after six or seven letters, the usernames get chopped off.
[02:42] <Yorokobi> kumamoto, use either adept or synaptic (or, my favorite, dselect) to search for gstreamer
[02:42] <kumamoto> I found some but don't seem to work am just getting frustrated
[02:43] <chemicalvamp> whats dselect?
[02:43] <ebotvine> well thats not what we are doing
[02:43] <Yorokobi> !info dselect
[02:43] <ubotu> dselect: user tool to manage Debian packages. In component main, is standard. Version 1.13.22ubuntu7 (edgy), package size 98 kB, installed size 1848 kB
[02:43] <chemicalvamp> ahh i tried !dselect anf got nothin
[02:44] <ericsh> ??
[02:44] <ebotvine> so is more :)
[02:44] <ericsh> :)
[02:44] <firecrotch> I can't find the Adobe reader plugin for Firefox at all
[02:44] <Yorokobi> firecrotch, feisty or edgy?
[02:45] <firecrotch> feisty
[02:45] <Yorokobi> firecrotch, it doesn't exist :)
[02:46] <Yorokobi> I downloaded it from adobe and manually installed it.
[02:46] <ebotvine> Arwen: i cant get it to drop this work and help in here ?
[02:48] <firecrotch> Yorokobi: How did you manually install it?
[02:48] <ebotvine> orange1 that's what sells the most
[02:48] <Alonea> umm, how do I get permissions for my other harddrive? says owner is root...
[02:48] <Yorokobi> firecrotch, I downloaded the .tar.gz from the Adobe website, untar/gz'd it, ran the install ... tada
[02:48] <firecrotch> Yorokobi: Oh, I figured it would be more complicated than that...
[02:49] <HymnToLife`> Yorokobi, I apt-get install'ed flashplugin-nonfree ... tada :p
[02:49] <ebotvine> orange1: you could build it.
[02:50] <Yorokobi> HymnToLife`, me too
[02:51] <soulrider> hi everyone!
[02:51] <ebotvine> mischko that was possible
[02:52] <soulrider> i was using arch linux for the while day, its fast, but the repos are slow and its so badly documented
[02:54] <darryl> I am using Webmin on my ubuntu server.  I was setting up my DHCP and I got an error:   "Starting DHCP server DHCPD3 .... failed.  Can I get some help?
[02:56] <Yorokobi> darryl, does dhcpd3 log to /var/log/something? If so, check the log
[02:56] <ebotvine> no i have not; *nux is not an issue.
[02:56] <darryl> I will check
[02:57] <CaptainApathy> how do I configure kubuntu to use my 4th and 5th buttons no my mouse?  I want firefox and konqueror to both treat them as go-forward and go-back
[03:01] <dekinono> my only guess is an OS reload
[03:02] <Yorokobi> CaptainApathy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[03:02] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, can you help me mount a ntfs hdd ?  ;)
[03:02] <ebotvine> it isn't. flaccid set | less
[03:03] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, I feel like I've been down that road before. hehe
[03:04] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, i'm dying here, my external hdd works but not the internal
[03:04] <ebotvine> !kicker
[03:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:04] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, paste the results of 'fdisk -l' to pastebin
[03:04] <Yorokobi> !paste | Sesshoumaru
[03:04] <ubotu> Sesshoumaru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:05] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, the hdd has my life in it.. (WoW),(Counter-Strike),(GTA)  ;)
[03:06] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, i did fdisk -l   nothing showed up
[03:06] <Mena> ehhhhhhhhhhh its the third time happened with me ... i cant conect to the intenet on Linux and i can On Xp
[03:06] <Mena> though i am using The Same settings for all
[03:07] <Yorokobi> okay Sesshoumaru 'cat /proc/partitions'
[03:08] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, the hdd in not installed right now >.<  sorry brb
[03:08] <ebotvine> Linux_Galore: trough ftp
[03:08] <cpk1> Sesshoumaru: sometimes you need to use sudo when you use fdisk to get everything to show up
[03:08] <Yorokobi> cpk1, good call
[03:09] <cpk1> hope he saw that haha
[03:09] <ebotvine> xubuntu will not install it goes to all black screen
[03:09] <erich_> Greetings, I'm having a problem getting jini to install on a kubuntu 64bit VMware installation... I get loads of libc dependency problems when I try to start up the jini services...
[03:09] <erich_> no one's actually in the java channel...
[03:10] <erich_> I tried stripping export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL from the install .bin... still no dice.
[03:11] <kgx0> has anyone here anywork with php and openid? which would be the best library to use?
[03:12] <ebotvine> How to change the host name
[03:19] <kemixtry> is there any method to force kate underline misspelled words?
[03:19] <ebotvine> intelikey, k
[03:19] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, here is both cat /proc/partitions and sudo fdisk -l    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13613/
[03:20] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/c' then 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/c'
[03:22] <Sesshoumaru> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[03:22] <ebotvine> that another good thing to try if that doesn't guarantee you'll have the exact same checksums as the same machine im currently logged into??
[03:23] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, well, that was a guess (/dev/hdb1 ... is the fdisk -l with the ntfs drive plugged in or no?
[03:24] <adydas> your not trying to mount a usb harddrive are you?
[03:24] <Powerking89670> lol, I am having so much fun. I am part of some project, and a rival project is spamming us lol
[03:24] <Sesshoumaru> no.. the usb hdd works
[03:24] <Yorokobi> adydas, nope
[03:24] <ebotvine> you are on? Or is the mac hwaddr in ifconfig?
[03:25] <adydas> oh ok
[03:25] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, the hdd doesn't even show up in fdisk
[03:25] <ebotvine> Kool: no i made a slight joke. if you want from KSysGuard to the same luck.
[03:26] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, is windows using the whole disk ?
[03:26] <ebotvine> i was told to go to more detail about that?
[03:26] <kemixtry> is there any method to force kate underline misspelled words?
[03:27] <Yorokobi> kemixtry, install kate-plugins
[03:27] <ebotvine> chuckles at riuken.
[03:27] <kemixtry> Yorokobi: oh
[03:27] <kemixtry> Yorokobi: didn't know something like that existed
[03:27] <Apollo^101> hai all
[03:27] <ebotvine> i have 78% of the 2 hour install i got "upgrade tool crashed" when i rebooted... all i got "upgrade tool crashed" when i type PS x.. I get this on the dvd in the field where it says "Ready" (booting live) it hangs with just a blinking cursor right now?
[03:28] <Apollo^101> how to get the latest kernel in kubuntu?
[03:29] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, for edgy or feisty?
[03:29] <Apollo^101> iam using kubuntu 6.10
[03:29] <Apollo^101> i dont know its edgy or fiesy
[03:29] <ebotvine> flaccid: yeah, env is cleaner. filename completion is built into bash in the c source and compiled as part of the floor when you turn the computer starts and it worked
[03:30] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, what is it
[03:30] <ebotvine> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <liam> does anyone know the path of the configuration file for the x server?
[03:31] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, the latest for 6.10 is 2.6.13 so the package to have installed is linux-generic
[03:32] <Yorokobi> liam, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:32] <ebotvine> How*
[03:32] <liam> thanks Yorokobi! I just couldnt remember
[03:33] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, no. iam already using 2.6.17-10
[03:34] <Yorokobi> oh ... heh, that's what I get for using my memory :)
[03:34] <ebotvine> catid: everything, whole new version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be fine as frog hair split four ways then.
[03:34] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, 2.3.13 is not latest
[03:35] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, if you want 2.6.20+ you'll have to roll your own or upgrade to feisty (7.04 beta)
[03:35] <ebotvine> mischko the last guy who cut in front of him." She never said a word, just stayed right there.
[03:35] <kalorin`> ok so how come after I put in the ati drivers and a background image all the nice icons for disks are now gone?
[03:35] <kalorin`> that's "bothersome"
[03:35] <Sesshoumaru> Yorokobi, is there a program that manages hard drives?
[03:36] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, betas are not good. are they?
[03:36] <ebotvine> how do i set the permission to run dhcl eth0 :)
[03:36] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, probably. I'd have to look to know for sure
[03:37] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, I'm using it on 2 of 3 of my Kubuntu boxes. It seems okay
[03:37] <Sesshoumaru> www.AskYorokobi.com (^_^)
[03:38] <Sesshoumaru> i'll look around for something..
[03:38] <Yorokobi> Sesshoumaru, haha ... I may have to register that domain now.
[03:38] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, how to upgrade to fiesty by internet?
[03:39] <ebotvine> why dont like ease of use?
[03:39] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[03:39] <sayers> How do I make it so each workspace doesnt carry out little applicication things in the system tray thing...  In other words how do I make each new virtual desktop contain its-self rather than having all this crap mixed together making the other 3 dekstops useless?
[03:40] <Yorokobi> sayers, 1) switch to the other desktop /then/ launch the app or 2) right-click the title bar and "Move to Desktop"
[03:40] <ebotvine> Beryl are using bash_completion set will show you that idea?
[03:41] <Yorokobi> sayers, or do you want each desktop to only list the apps specific to that desktop?
[03:41] <knapp> Where might I find logs for updates/aptitude?
[03:41] <ebotvine> ok...
[03:42] <sayers> Yorokobi: Even if I send them to another desktop the button to re-maximize them is still there
[03:43] <Yorokobi> sayers, I don't follow?
[03:43] <Yorokobi> s/?/./
[03:43] <ebotvine> and KDE is running, yay. it's great when things go this smooth
[03:43] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, ok
[03:43] <kemixtry> knapp: synaptic/file/history
[03:43] <kemixtry> knapp: oh, don't know about aptitude
[03:44] <sayers> Yorokobi: In gnome if you go to another desktop none of the launched icons are there. Here they are on each desktop.
[03:44] <ebotvine> yes
[03:44] <vit_> hola a todos!!!!
[03:44] <Yorokobi> sayers, are you referring to the task bar or system tray?
[03:44] <sayers> Task bar
[03:44] <ebotvine> cause it will write to $MOUNTPOINT/boot/grub/* and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a configuration file.
[03:45] <asaup> hi all
[03:45] <vit_> como esta la gente!?!?!?
[03:45] <sayers> Yorokobi: The taskbar, thing is I didnt have that word in my mouth at the moment
[03:45] <knapp> In aptitude theres an option in the toolbar that says "Show Last Download" but it's greyed out.
[03:45] <ebotvine> Yorokobi: Ah, ok. :)
[03:45] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to use Word documents in koffice?
[03:46] <asaup> how can i save the resolv.conf because every time i restart it changes
[03:46] <Yorokobi> sayers, right click the panel, go to "Configure panel" then click on the Taskbar option on the left.
[03:46] <kemixtry> sayers: it's easy to fix this: in konsole run "kcontrol" and then navigate to desktop/taskbar and uncheck everything except "show applications icons" then "group similar tasks" NEVER
[03:46] <knapp> Does anyone know where I can find aptitude logs or what updates were last done??
[03:46] <vit_>  necesito instalar NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!
[03:46] <kemixtry> knapp: i don't think aptitude logs anything that you do
[03:46] <ebotvine> is evolution a gnome product?
[03:46] <yurimxpxman> ebotvine: yes
[03:46] <Yorokobi> asaup, remove the resolvconf package
[03:47] <sayers> kemixtry: thanks
[03:47] <vit_>  I need to install NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!
[03:47] <vit_>  I need to install NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!
[03:47] <ebotvine> intelikey: that's why it's called "Auto" Identify
[03:47] <asaup> no no i mean the resolve.conf where i put the nameserver
[03:47] <kemixtry> sayers: np
[03:48] <intelikey> ebotvine ?
[03:48] <Yorokobi> asaup, yeah, believe me. Remove the resolvconf package
[03:48] <sayers> kemixtry: that is the ONLY reason I didnt like KDE and used gnome so now I am very happy.
[03:48] <ebotvine> the source is source of course.
[03:48] <kemixtry> sayers: i added some more fixes to make it look more like windows
[03:48] <Yorokobi> It won't remove /etc/resolv.conf
[03:48] <intelikey> ebotvine
[03:48] <intelikey> ebotvine
[03:48] <kemixtry> sayers: heh, cool
[03:48] <sayers> kemixtry: Like?
[03:48] <asaup> ok
[03:48] <asaup> i'll try it
[03:48] <kemixtry> sayers: "never group similar tasks"
[03:48] <ebotvine> sec looking up the page that has a few places there, but that's the intention anyway. ;-)
[03:48] <sayers> kemixtry: I do like the feel of SOME parts of windows, others agrivate me
[03:48] <asaup> Yorokobi: thanx
[03:48] <Yorokobi> intelikey, I don't know what the deal is with ebotvine
[03:49] <vit_>  I need to install NETBEANS!!! somebody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!
[03:49] <sayers> vit_: I can
[03:49] <kemixtry> sayers: well, i just thought you were a newbye so that's why i thought you wanted kde to be a little more windows-like
[03:49] <intelikey> who's opped around here ?
[03:49] <vit_>  I need to install NETBEANS!!! anybody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!
[03:49] <intelikey> ops ?
[03:49] <ebotvine> AbortD: no
[03:49] <Yorokobi> vit_, try the #java or google
[03:49] <sayers> kemixtry: Well no I have been using ubuntu for a total of 3 months and linux for atleast 4 months.
[03:49] <os2mac> Stop with the updates to fiesty already :)
[03:50] <kemixtry> sayers: still quite new to *nix, anyway :)
[03:50] <ebotvine> riuken: which one them?
[03:50] <os2mac> everytime I have logged into Kubuntu since I did the dist upgrade I have had updates
[03:50] <intelikey> !ops   ebotvine needs to go
[03:50] <sayers> kemixtry: true :S
[03:50] <vit_>  Yorokobi I tryed it!!!!
[03:51] <vit_>  Yorokobi please install it and teach me how to install!!!!
[03:51] <Yorokobi> vit_, netbeans is off topic for this channel
[03:51] <ebotvine> they do not appear as tables
[03:51] <sayers> kemixtry: the best part about linux, which is because of open-source, is all the programs for free. With windows you have to pay for a damn MP3 converter and all this junk where on linux besides games it has everything. And the games part is slowly getting decent
[03:51] <vit_> %c4 Yorokobi I need it..... please
[03:52] <vit_>  Yorokobi I need it..... please
[03:52] <ebotvine> in the Adept Installer and nothing.
[03:52] <intelikey> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[03:53] <kemixtry> sayers: right
[03:53] <nalioth> intelikey: yes?
[03:53] <intelikey> ebotvine  !
[03:53] <ebotvine> Kool: no i have been tested to work on getting X to work.
[03:53] <Yorokobi> vit_, my personal mantra regarding Java: Java has its place but I have no place for Java. I don't know anything about NetBeans unless you want to talk WebLogic, in which case, you can ask BEA.
[03:54] <intelikey> nalioth see ebotvine the confusion making bot.
[03:54] <sayers> vit_: Why not use eclipse?
[03:54] <intelikey> thank you.
[03:54] <vit_>  Yorokobi thanks men
[03:54] <Yorokobi> by all
[03:54] <chemicalvamp> bb
[03:54] <sayers> vit_: and there is a wiki that knows all . Or a lot of things
[03:55] <vito>  sayers ok... let me see
[03:55] <sayers> What the hell. Sensors-detect doesnt work...
[03:56] <intelikey> nalioth thanks.   i do hate artifical stupidty bots...
[03:56] <eeanm> sayers: yea I've seen that on boot up
[03:56] <eeanm> I don't know what it means ;)
[03:56] <sayers> No its a manual terminal thing
[03:56] <sayers> and I need it to continue with fan editing
[03:57] <sayers> let me see , I think the updates *may* have fixed it.
[03:57] <nalioth> intelikey: i'm hunting the artificially stupid owner now . . .
[03:57] <intelikey> happy hunting.
[03:57] <asaup> adept has found some feisty packages for me but it says that i have to open the kubuntu update to upgrade to feisty
[03:59] <asaup> what do i have to do to upgrade
[04:00] <intelikey> !upgrade | asaup
[04:00] <ubotu> asaup: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:00] <asaup> intelikey: i have upgraded to edgy
[04:00] <sayers> Ah simple error, I wasnt su
[04:01] <sayers> In a few days you will upgrade to Feisty :?
[04:01] <asaup> but i get an upgrade wizard now to upgrade to feisty
[04:01] <sayers> rawr another reboot
[04:01] <intelikey> asaup when feisty is released there is supposed to be a simple "install this package and it sets up the auto upgrade"  thingy
[04:02] <asaup> intelikey: thanx
[04:02] <intelikey> asaup yes that's the one.    feisty support is in   #ubuntu+1
[04:02] <chemicalvamp> intelikey, thats cool, any info on it?
[04:02] <intelikey> chemicalvamp i'm sure there will be plenty.   you can ask in #ubuntu+1  now.
[04:03] <ironcladlou> even though my power settings are configured to "do nothing" when the lid is closed or when idle, if i leave my laptop lid closed for a while, my screen remains blank when i open it back up. can't wake up KDE, can't shut down X... all i can do is cold boot. what gives? (kubunty 7.04)
[04:04] <ironcladlou> i experienced the same thing with Ubuntu feisty, also
[04:04] <intelikey> ironcladlou until it releases  7.4 questions are in  #ubuntu+1
[04:05] <ironcladlou> intelikey: alrighty
[04:05] <sayers> Is Konqurer a good web browser?
[04:05] <intelikey> sayers yes
[04:05] <sayers> intelikey: should I get used to it?
[04:05] <intelikey> if you like it.
[04:05] <intelikey> there are lots of browesrs avalable
[04:06] <enzo> Hello everyone
[04:06] <sayers> Well KDE is cool but weird, I am so used to Gnome
[04:06] <enzo> I'm trying to figure out why Kubuntu won't read my friend's mp3 player.
[04:06] <intelikey> people say that about gnome
[04:06] <enzo> It's a Philips GoGear hdd1630/17 6gb player
[04:07] <intelikey> !mp3 | enzo
[04:07] <ubotu> enzo: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:07] <enzo> intelikey: But what if I can't even view the contents of the mp3 player?
[04:07] <intelikey> ummm that might be a different matter.
[04:08] <intelikey> enzo can you play mp3's that you can 'view' ?
[04:08] <vito>  I need to install NETBEANS!!! anybody can teachme how to?!?!??!!?!
[04:08] <sayers> stop repeating your self!
[04:09] <sayers> vito: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Netbeans?highlight=%28netbeans%29
[04:10] <bill> ok, I'm am seriously getting mad....I cannot manually write partition tables to this compact flash card
[04:10] <bill> I could before, then I upgraded everything
[04:11] <intelikey> bill nothing accessing it is there ?
[04:11] <bill> and someone told me to try to use the LiveCD, but that didnt help because the LiveCD wouldn't load my hard drive so I could write the table.sct file to the CF card
[04:11] <bill> here, let me pastebin it
[04:12] <intelikey> lsof /dev/<devicenode>
[04:13] <asaup> where do i find my repositories list ??
[04:14] <asaup> sorry but i am newbie
[04:14] <intelikey> asaup /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:14] <asaup> intelikey: thanx
[04:15] <intelikey> asaup then i should advice you that files in /etc are restricted to root access for writing.    you will have to be root to change anything.
[04:15] <intelikey> !root | asaup
[04:15] <ubotu> asaup: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:15] <intelikey> !kdesu | asaup
[04:15] <ubotu> asaup: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[04:15] <chemicalvamp> right but i hear you really must use kdesu
[04:16] <tedbrew> hello
[04:16] <chemicalvamp> kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:16] <intelikey> or sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:16] <chemicalvamp> i thoguth sudo was bad for that kinda thing
[04:16] <intelikey> or  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   if they are installed  (gnome)
[04:16] <Apollo^101> can i upgrade kubuntu 6.10 from a live cd of kubuntu fiesty ?
[04:17] <intelikey> chemicalvamp read the bot posts again.  ^
[04:17] <chemicalvamp> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php
[04:17] <intelikey> Apollo^101 no.
[04:17] <bill> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13621/
[04:18] <jujuju> what package do i download to get the mp3 and avi support?
[04:19] <bill> I really need this....I need to get my Palm fixed ASAP
[04:19] <Apollo^101> which is the latest kernel that kubuntu edgy and fiesty supports?
[04:19] <Mena> I need to make Fiesty conect to the internet but i cant ehhhhh i can conect on Xp but linux not
[04:19] <jujuju> !avi
[04:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:19] <Mena> Thought all setting are the same
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> !multimedia
[04:20] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[04:20] <Mena> no help on ubuntu +1
[04:20] <Mena> and also thi shappned befor with edgy
[04:20] <Mena> this
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> is it wireless?
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> mena, ^
[04:21] <Mena> no
[04:21] <Mena> eth0
[04:21] <Mena> ethernet*
[04:22] <enzo> intelikey: Sorry, I had to answer the door. Yes, I can listen to the mp3s from my mp3 player, but not my friends.
[04:23] <soulrider> hey everyone
[04:24] <soulrider> enzo: DRM ?
[04:24] <enzo> soulrider: DRM???
[04:24] <firecrotch> can anyone point me towards a good guide for setting up an email server?
[04:24] <soulrider> digital rights management
[04:24] <Apollo^101> can i upgrade kubuntu 6.10 from a live cd of kubuntu fiesty ?
[04:25] <soulrider> enzo: maybe they music is 'protected' and you cant play it
[04:25] <soulrider> Apollo^101: im not sure
[04:25] <enzo> soulrider: maybe. It's from a Philips 6GB GoGear player
[04:25] <soulrider> Apollo^101: you wanna wait though
[04:25] <soulrider> its still beta
[04:25] <soulrider> enzo: imean if the mp3 files ar protected
[04:25] <soulrider> not the player
[04:25] <soulrider> !drm
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <enzo> Shouldn't be
[04:26] <soulrider> oh
[04:26] <soulrider> its kinda strange
[04:26] <enzo> yup
[04:26] <soulrider> your mp3s play fine on kubuntu right ?
[04:26] <enzo> yup
[04:26] <Mena> !ipv6
[04:26] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[04:26] <soulrider> i guess thats hte problem, i really dont know
[04:26] <soulrider> theya re probably protected or something, i cant think of another reason
[04:27] <Apollo^101> solomon_, from where can i know
[04:27] <intelikey> bill where is the system installed      and  does grep sda /proc/mounts     say anything ?
[04:27] <enzo> Even the mp3's from my mp3 player. His mp3 player doesn't even load
[04:27] <soulrider> Apollo^101: feisty is still in beta, upgrading isnt a very good idea
[04:27] <soulrider> enzo: hios mp3 player wont load your mp3s ?
[04:28] <intelikey> Apollo^101 http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-beta.php
[04:28] <Apollo^101> soulrider, ok. but how can i have the latest kerenl. i mean by the package manager. the easy way. not compiling it
[04:28] <enzo> his mp3 player won't load into my desktop
[04:28] <soulrider> Apollo^101: if you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade it will downlaod the latest kernel int he edgy repos
[04:29] <billy> does anyone know what the linux equivelent to the DOS command "ipconfig" is?
[04:29] <soulrider> the onyl way to get a newer one is compiling or installing feisty, but again, feisty is still beta, unless you REALLY NEED a new kernel, i wouldnt go for it
[04:29] <intelikey> Apollo^101 the latest kernel for your release should be installed   if not so   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     should install it.
[04:29] <enzo> billy: ifconfig
[04:29] <billy> thank you
[04:29] <Apollo^101> soulrider, apt dist upgrade, will upgrade the whole distribution to 7.03....  right?
[04:29] <enzo> np
[04:29] <soulrider> Apollo^101: nope
[04:30] <soulrider> it will update all packages
[04:30] <soulrider> but not upgrade to feisty
[04:30] <soulrider> thats a whole different process
[04:30] <Apollo^101> ok
[04:30] <sayers> Why are so many obessed with Feisty today?
[04:30] <soulrider> sayers: thats been going on for hte past week
[04:30] <soulrider> i guess its all the excitement
[04:30] <intelikey> Apollo^101 no.  apt-get dist-upgrade   only upgrades to the version that is set in the sources.list.  if you change that then it changes the upgrade prosess
[04:31] <soulrider> i hope its relatively bug free when it come sout
[04:31] <ori> is there a way to disable kde's notification about application crashes that occured?
[04:31] <sayers> There is like 2 things to be kinda exited about
[04:31] <soulrider> i wish i could do more coding and help ouy
[04:31] <soulrider> out*
[04:31] <soulrider> sayers: there are lots of minor changes
[04:31] <sayers> None that I saw , just a lot of dumb problems
[04:31] <intelikey> relatively bug free <<<   heh
[04:31] <sayers> but that was a month ago
[04:31] <intelikey> relative to what ?
[04:31] <sayers> Nvidia
[04:32] <sayers> On the 19th when it's released I will probably get it :)
[04:32] <billy> does anyone know how to refer to windows network paths in linux?  for example, if I wanted to copy a file \\server\share\foo.txt from the command line
[04:32] <soulrider> intelikey: to a perfect system :P
[04:32] <bill> intelikey : grep sda /proc/mounts doesn't do anything....it just brings up another cammand line. And this Linux is installed on hda5.
[04:33] <intelikey> soulrider then not a "chian man's chance."   as they say.
[04:33] <Apollo^101> soulrider, apt-get upgrade will also upgrade all packages?
[04:33] <soulrider> Apollo^101: yueah, im not sure about the exact difference though
[04:33] <soulrider> just do an apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:34] <intelikey> bill ok then the input/output error "should not be caused by a partition being mount on the disk"  unless it's usb....    it is usb isn't it?
[04:34] <Apollo^101> ok
[04:34] <intelikey> bill are there any related icons on the desktop ?
[04:35] <bill> yes, it is the card reader in my printer over USB
[04:35] <bill> nope
[04:35] <sayers> what was the Kde config command where I messed with the taskbar?
[04:35] <chemicalvamp> kconfig i believe
[04:35] <bill> see, that's the thing....my partition tables became corrupt last week, so I installed linux on a new partition borrowing space from the first partition because the first partition was the only one that wasn't corrupt
[04:35] <os2mac> how do I re autodetect my monitor/video settings...
[04:36] <bill> anyways, now whenever I plug in any USB disc, it never pops up or anything
[04:36] <os2mac> I have managed to screw them up and can't get them to reset correctly
[04:36] <sayers> os2mac: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver I believe it is
[04:36] <bill> and it doesn't show it under the media folder, and I can't access it in /dev/
[04:36] <bill> the same with the hard drive
[04:36] <intelikey> bill    lsmod | grep usb
[04:38] <os2mac> sayers: didn't work
[04:38] <__bill__> sorry, internet cut out...last thing I saw was "grep sda /proc/mounts"
[04:38] <intelikey> bill  any output ?
[04:38] <__bill__> er, not that
[04:39] <intelikey> bill    lsmod | grep usb
[04:39] <__bill__> the last thing I saw was "<-- billy has left this server (Remote closed the connection)."
[04:39] <__bill__> ok, let me pastebin
[04:39] <soulrider> damn beryl, it wont load my decorations!
[04:40] <intelikey> soulrider yes yes  cursed be that beryl
[04:40] <soulrider> lol
[04:40] <os2mac> anyone. help.... trying to reconfigure x automatically
[04:40] <intelikey> a hex upon it,  never again shall it function on your system....
[04:40] <soulrider> it allways worked nicely for me
[04:40] <__bill__> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13622/
[04:41] <soulrider> intelikey: youre just jelous :P
[04:41] <intelikey> i don't thinks.   sarcastic, often;  facious, maybe.  jelous no.
[04:42] <soulrider> i was just joking
[04:42] <soulrider> its not like you have any use for it (not like we have any either :P)
[04:43] <Apollo^101> thanks all. gtg
[04:43] <soulrider> bye!
[04:43] <sayers> Good night or have a good lunch or whatever
[04:44] <intelikey> __bill__    dd if=/dev/sda count=1 | less      see if you can read from the device at all.
[04:44] <Apollo^101> thanke :)
[04:44] <intelikey> bill and a simple yes or no will suffice on that.
[04:44] <bill> no
[04:44] <sayers> With the time format how do I make it the Time format America uses?
[04:45] <intelikey> check sdb  same process bill
[04:45] <DJAnubis> hey
[04:45] <DJAnubis> one quick question
[04:45] <bill> No file or directory
[04:45] <bill> so no
[04:46] <intelikey> sdc ?
[04:46] <intelikey> same ?
[04:46] <bill> nope
[04:46] <intelikey> same ?
[04:46] <DJAnubis> do I need to emerge or setup a GUI, or does kubuntu come with one when installed?
[04:46] <bill> yeah, same
[04:47] <sayers> DJAnubis: Nope no work at all
[04:47] <DJAnubis> woah,
[04:47] <DJAnubis> I may have to use this then
[04:47] <intelikey> ok unplug it(the usb cable) and replug then     dmesg   and see if anything wierd is in the last two/three lines  bill
[04:47] <sayers> DJAnubis: For the basic install just the cd and a mouse, and eh... the ubuntu family strives for awesomeness and ease at the same time
[04:47] <DJAnubis> I've been trying to emerge Gnome on Gentoo for like...days
[04:48] <sayers> Gentoo is for people who like to stick dry ice in their computer to develop a new way of Cooling
[04:48] <sayers> Those are crazy people...
[04:48] <DJAnubis> lol
[04:48] <sayers> Very smart crazy people
[04:48] <DJAnubis> I like the word gentoo though :P
[04:48] <DJAnubis> anyways
[04:48] <DJAnubis> voorhees?
[04:48] <sayers> Kuwbootwo
[04:48] <intelikey> DJAnubis  sudo apt-get install gentoo
[04:48] <sayers> that is very cool
[04:49] <DJAnubis> intelikey...what?
[04:49] <bill> ok, so it says unable to read partition table
[04:49] <DJAnubis> yeah, kubuntu sounds awesome
[04:49] <crazy_bus> can anyone tell me of software to make and print a invoice?
[04:49] <bill> hmmm...its probably because I had to write a special partition table so the Palm would read it
[04:49] <intelikey> bill in the dmesg output ?
[04:49] <bill> is there a way I can just wipe the card and start over?
[04:49] <sayers> be right back
[04:49] <DJAnubis> yeah, I'll go with this because I hate command-line
[04:50] <bill> yeah: "sda: unable to read partition table"
[04:50] <DJAnubis> anyways, how long is a full-blown CD installation, like, all extras installed
[04:50] <intelikey> bill   yeah.   i wont recomend it but i will tell you how.    cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda
[04:50] <DJAnubis> like, an hour?
[04:51] <bill> well, it is basically my only option
[04:51] <bill> cuz it won't but on my palm
[04:51] <bill> so I'll just write the custom partition table again after I wipe it, then create a rom imae
[04:51] <soulrider> !paste
[04:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:51] <intelikey> bill if you do that you should be able to write to it with dd  but i make no promices
[04:52] <bill> hmmm
[04:52] <geeb> Anyone think they can help a new guy with what may be a stupid question?
[04:52] <bill> that doesn't work anyways....it says "No space left on device"
[04:52] <intelikey> oh and it has to be done as root  bill
[04:52] <sayers> Where is a list of the most Awesome themes for KDe
[04:52] <philphoto> has the MP3 bug in Feisty been taken care of?
[04:52] <sayers> this blue is blargish and purple and yes
[04:52] <bill> lol, I forgot about that
[04:52] <bill> let me try it
[04:52] <inteliwasp> is there a way to reset the timestamp for sudo?
[04:52] <intelikey> bill  to gain a root shell   sudo -i
[04:53] <DJAnubis> shouldn't it be in the desktop properties?
[04:53] <bill> nope, still tells me there is no space on the device
[04:53] <intelikey> bill  sudo cat **  wont work.    it has to be done as root.
[04:53] <DJAnubis> (from what I remember from fedora with KDE"
[04:53] <DJAnubis> god fedora was bloody slow
[04:53] <bill> I know
[04:53] <bill> I'm doing it as root
[04:53] <bill> it still tells me the device has no space
[04:54] <intelikey> bill   and yes it  will end with no space left.   that's the close of the write.
[04:54] <DJAnubis> hey sayers, is a full install from CD image like, an hour? more?
[04:54] <intelikey> bill   now try your dd command.
[04:54] <philphoto> 20 m inutes usually
[04:55] <sayers> DJAnubis: I think it takes like 20 minutes I'd agree
[04:55] <sayers> Not including download time for the disk and assuming your on cable
[04:55] <geeb> I'm really new to this so I don't know what I'm doing but I just want to install firefox.  It's in my add remove programs but it's grayed out
[04:55] <sayers> I would say in 1:30 you could have your video card hooked up, some cool software installed, and listing to your music.
[04:56] <sayers> It's as painless as your reading skills make it.
[04:56] <intelikey> bill   all the " no space left "  message is telling you is that  /dev/zero  contains more data than /dev/sda can hold.    and it should  /dev/zero will repete 00000000 for ever.
[04:57] <intelikey> i'm out for a while.    rounds.
[04:57] <bill> but it isn't telling me that way
[04:57] <bill> it's saying error
[04:57] <bill> "cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda"
[04:57] <bill> oops
[04:57] <abortd> !envy
[04:57] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[04:57] <bill> I hate how it I can't ctrl-c in konsole
[04:57] <philphoto> anyone know what kind of utility will open either a .dbf or a .dbt file?
[04:57] <bill> root@Boys-Room-desktop:~# cat /dev/zero > /dev/sda
[04:57] <bill> cat: write error: No space left on device
[04:58] <sayers> Kcontrol doesnt seem to appear in my Application Menu :O why not?
[04:59] <nickv111> Hey guys. I'm having issues with playing media. Whenever I watch a movie in mplayer, for example, it's like it's perpetually paused. I can advance with the arrow keys, and see the frames, but nothing ever plays. The same thing happens when playing music in xmms and amaroK
[04:59] <nickv111> Also, no sound comes out of gaim
[04:59] <philphoto> neither will Kmail appear.
[05:00] <sayers> nickv111: Well there is something I cant explain with the sound driver and some times things die while using sound, a long story short as of my knowledge you can only some times run more than one sound thing at once
[05:00] <sayers> :S
[05:01] <nickv111> Oops. Sorry about that
[05:01] <soulrider> xorg killed himself :P
[05:01] <nickv111> Anyway, I don't understand why my media won't play. It was working just fine earlier. . .
[05:01] <sayers> nickv111: Well there is something I cant explain with the sound driver and some times things die while using sound, a long story short as of my knowledge you can only some times run more than one sound thing at once
[05:01] <nickv111> sayers: But nothing plays. Besides, doesn't ALSA handle that?
[05:02] <nickv111> And when I open a video, it plays momentarily, and then the times for the audio and video stop
[05:03] <scubasteve> hey all
[05:03] <DJAnubis> am I going to be able to use any type of binary files?
[05:03] <DJAnubis> if so, what type?
[05:04] <DJAnubis> I'm used to .rpm so, I don't want to download RPMs and not be able to install wine
[05:05] <mastermanx> any one know how to install wine
[05:05] <DJAnubis> lol, just asked that
[05:05] <eeanm> !mp3
[05:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:05] <DJAnubis> !wine
[05:05] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:06] <sayers> DJAnubis:  .deb and .bin I know of
[05:07] <sayers> DJAnubis: A LOT of things come in debian format or bin's so you wont be left out, plus there is a packet manager thing that has a lot of stuff already so you wont always have to go downloading somthing by keyboard
[05:08] <DJAnubis> downloading by keyboard?
[05:09] <sayers> DJAnubis: With all the commands like cd / and sh and sudo and stuff that can get agrivating over time
[05:11] <DJAnubis> OH
[05:11] <DJAnubis> wow
[05:11] <DJAnubis> yeah, I see
[05:11] <bronze_0_1> gee, yeah. all those commands...
[05:11] <DJAnubis> well, copy+paste for the win
[05:11] <sayers> Not if you have to do somthing of your knowledge.
[05:12] <sayers> But anyway Ubuntu is in my oppinion accutaly productive.
[05:12] <BluesKaj> sayers , that's what adept and synaptic are for..ppl who would rather not use the CLI
[05:13] <DJAnubis> well
[05:13] <bill> well
[05:13] <DJAnubis> it's time to install, cya later
[05:13] <sayers> BlueKaj: Some parts of linux require manual stuff. Like my fan problem I had. You cant click your way out of that
[05:13] <bill> since I still can't get this CF card formatted
[05:13] <Sesshoumaru> anybody know a good photoshop alternative
[05:13] <DJAnubis> err
[05:13] <sayers> Cya DJAnubis good luck, doubt you will need it tho, so easy :(
[05:13] <bill> which means I can't fix my palm pilot
[05:13] <DJAnubis> fan problem?
[05:13] <sayers> :) ***
[05:13] <sayers> Its a Sony Vaio thing
[05:13] <DJAnubis> o
[05:13] <DJAnubis> that's sony then
[05:14] <sayers> Yes
[05:14] <bill> I need a graphing calculator program for kubuntu
[05:14] <bill> anyone know of one?
[05:14] <sayers> they signed a contract with windows pretty much saying "WE WONT SUPPORT LINUX DAMN IT 'now where is my 20000 Grand'
[05:14] <Sesshoumaru> anyone know a good photoshop alternative
[05:14] <bill> Sesshoumaru: GIMP
[05:14] <sayers> Gimp :)
[05:15] <bill> !GIMP
[05:15] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[05:15] <Sesshoumaru> i have gimp.. its the best?
[05:15] <bill> lol
[05:15] <sayers> Gimp is a pain to learn, takes a few hours of tinkering. But so is Photoshop
[05:15] <mastermanx> how do u sitnlal wine
[05:15] <bill> I know ppl on windows that prefer gimp over photoshop
[05:15] <mastermanx> not working for me
[05:15] <bill> so yeah, its pretty good
[05:15] <sayers> Give it a chance, remember when you first went in Photoshop, it took a long time to learn I bet
[05:16] <Sesshoumaru> i can do gimp.. i just wanted to know if there were any better
[05:16] <sayers> Sesshoumaru: Well its the best for what your probably gonna use it for
[05:16] <mastermanx> anyone
[05:17] <sayers> Fancy logos and stuff...
[05:17] <mastermanx> to intall wine
[05:17] <bill> ok, I either need a way of formatting my CF card, or I need a graphing calculator program
[05:17] <eeanm> pfft ain't this #kubuntu ?
[05:17] <bill> anyone?
[05:17] <eeanm> Sesshoumaru: check out Krita
[05:17] <sayers> eeanm: Yes it is :>
[05:17] <xanith> why does kaffeine play some wmv files and not others?
[05:17] <eeanm> Krita is gimp that doesn't look like crap
[05:17] <bill> xanith: The others are probably protected with DRM.
[05:17] <Sesshoumaru> i mostly remove watermarks and fix the quality of pictures..
[05:18] <mastermanx> i guess no one can help me
[05:18] <mastermanx> install wine
[05:18] <mastermanx> then
[05:18] <Sesshoumaru> what is sitnal wine?
[05:18] <sayers> mastermanx: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:18] <mastermanx> install
[05:19] <xanith> bill, how do u get kaffeine to play those
[05:19] <xanith> bill, or can you?
[05:19] <sayers> google ? Wiki? These things are much better than irc most of the time...
[05:19] <Sesshoumaru> just use synaptic package manager
[05:19] <mastermanx> Err http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy/main wine 0.9.33~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-2
[05:19] <mastermanx>   404 Not Found
[05:19] <mastermanx> Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.33~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-2_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[05:19] <mastermanx> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[05:19] <mastermanx> mastermanx@mastermanx-desktop:~$ apt-get update
[05:20] <mastermanx> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:20] <sayers> mastermanx: it even tells you the error!
[05:20] <sayers> (13 Permission denied)
[05:20] <mastermanx> yeah
[05:20] <mastermanx> im new to this
[05:20] <cpk1> mastermanx: use sudo
[05:20] <mastermanx> i did
[05:20] <NightBird> !ntfs
[05:20] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:20] <sayers> no you didnt
[05:20] <NightBird> !ntfs-3g
[05:20] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:20] <sayers> type sudo apt-get update
[05:21] <bill> xanith: I'm pretty sure you can't...to my knowledge anyways. If we could crack the DM protection, then it would be possible.
[05:21] <bill> *DRM
[05:21] <mastermanx> o ok
[05:21] <xanith> so like what if wine emulated WMP?
[05:21] <sayers> mastermanx: there are doccuments that are like an hour's read that will make linux so easy .
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> lol
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> !wine
[05:22] <mastermanx> ok thier
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> hm
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> !wine
[05:22] <mastermanx> i heard you can play wow with wine
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> -_-
[05:22] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> omg
[05:22] <xanith> mastermanx: i have actually played wow with wine
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> bot lag
[05:22] <xanith> mastermanx: it's true
[05:22] <mastermanx> really
[05:22] <mastermanx> how is it
[05:22] <mastermanx> can u pm me
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> no
[05:22] <sayers> mastermanx: but mind you , linux isnt a game platform.
[05:22] <Re|ent|ess> !privite
[05:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about privite - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <Re|ent|ess> lol
[05:23] <xanith> mastermanx: actually, sorry i can't. im about to go to bed.
[05:23] <mastermanx> so how did it work
[05:23] <xanith> mastermanx: for the most part it does a good job on my computer
[05:23] <Re|ent|ess> hi os2mac
[05:23] <mastermanx> did it work ok
[05:23] <Re|ent|ess> brb
[05:23] <Re|ent|ess> restarting in linux
[05:23] <xanith> mastermanx: just for the installation i think to do the updates i had to run it in windows 2000/NT mode..
[05:23] <mastermanx> do you know how to install it cuz im nto sure i heard get wine and then
[05:23] <mastermanx> install wow
[05:23] <sayers> If all you want to do on linux is like play games, eh... I guess it can :S
[05:23] <xanith> mastermanx: other than that, everything else was smooth
[05:23] <sayers> but you would be playing a lot of Pengiun racer
[05:24] <Sesshoumaru> its not that linux is not a gaming platform,. most games are designed for windows
[05:24] <sayers> Sesshoumaru: yeah true
[05:24] <mastermanx> was it hard to install
[05:24] <Tm_T> ebotvine: ping
[05:24] <mastermanx> i installed wine right now what do i do now xanith
[05:24] <sayers> I play a tale in the desert. Played it on windows and now I play it on linux. But mostly I do that / Java / tink around
[05:25] <xanith> mastermanx: i just loaded the cd and executed the setup file
[05:25] <xanith> mastermanx: it installed fine, like i said the only thing you are gonna have to change is the compatibility mode to windows 2000/NT when it does the updates
[05:26] <Tm_T> agh
[05:26] <mastermanx> how do you do that
[05:26] <sayers> Sesshoumaru: I think linux will take over, now that vista sucks and ubuntu is becoming easier
[05:26] <mastermanx> so frist i got to get into wine
[05:26] <Visitor_> wonderful
[05:26] <Visitor_> LoL
[05:26] <mastermanx> run commmand
[05:26] <mastermanx> wine
[05:27] <xanith> mastermanx: you'll have to read the wine manual
[05:27] <xanith> mastermanx: i have to get up in 6 hours for work
[05:27] <AmyRose> sayers: It won't happen. People think Microsoft is the best
[05:27] <mastermanx> dan you cant tel me real quick
[05:27] <xanith> mastermanx: so i have to go to sleep
[05:27] <Tm_T> inteliwasp: why not?
[05:27] <inteliwasp> er "note not to make him mad
[05:27] <sayers> AmyRose: it wont take over but it will become more than 1% some day
[05:27] <AmyRose> People even claim Bill Gates invented the Internet.
[05:27] <Visitor_> LMAO
[05:27] <xanith> mastermanx: good luck and sorry i can't be more help tonight
[05:27] <Visitor_> bill gates
[05:27] <Visitor_> ha
[05:27] <AmyRose> They think the guy is a genius.
[05:28] <AmyRose> I'm serious.
[05:28] <Visitor_> LMAO
[05:28] <sayers> He is a smart guy...
[05:28] <Tm_T> AmyRose: and that's also offtopic ;)
[05:28] <inteliwasp> i bet they did not see pirates of silicon valley
[05:28] <Visitor_> what is the topic?
[05:28] <Tm_T> !topic
[05:28] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:28] <AmyRose> Visitor_: Let's bring that into #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <sayers> if he wasnt smart he wouldnt be the richest man in the world
[05:28] <AmyRose> !offtopic | sayers
[05:29] <Visitor_> support huh
[05:29] <Visitor_> hmmm
[05:29] <Visitor_> sorry im REALLY new to this
[05:29] <bill> no
[05:29] <bill> my friend invented the internet
[05:29] <bill> coded the whole thing in HTML and binary
[05:30] <Visitor_> bill
[05:30] <Visitor_> LoL
[05:30] <Sesshoumaru> yeah and I created the C language   :P
[05:30] <AmyRose> Visitor_: /j #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <Visitor_> amy
[05:31] <Visitor_> are u mocking me?
[05:31] <Tm_T> Visitor_: nope, he's not
[05:31] <crazy_penguin> Good morning! (it's 6.30 am here)
[05:31] <Visitor_> so lost
[05:31] <Sesshoumaru> Good Night here
[05:31] <Tm_T> Visitor_: he's only pointing you a place where you can talk more freely, if you wish
[05:32] <Visitor_> ahh
[05:32] <AmyRose> Visitor_: I'm trying to help you join the channel where you can talk about this
[05:32] <Visitor_> well my nephew gave me a copy of this---- he said here play around with it----
[05:33] <Visitor_> LoL    i dont know where to start
[05:33] <Visitor_> so i found this
[05:33] <DarkED> whats a good app to use if i just want to resize a few pictures?
[05:33] <Tm_T> Visitor_: heh, no worries, it's a start :)
[05:33] <DarkED> i guess i'm looking for something kinda like irfanview for windows
[05:33] <Tm_T> DarkED: Krita or Gimp
[05:33] <Visitor_> file:///usr/share/applications/kde/gwenview.desktop
[05:34] <DarkED> Tm_T: thanks
[05:34] <AmyRose> DarkED: A good choice is Gwenview if you use KDE. It can resize pictures
[05:34] <Visitor_> ;)
[05:34] <dani> je,je
[05:34] <dani> HI ALL!!
[05:34] <Tm_T> AmyRose: hmm, I never used it to that, should try some day
[05:34] <dani> THis is my very first time using IRC
[05:34] <AmyRose> Tm_T: I have, and it's convenient
[05:35] <Tm_T> dani: congrats, new addiction gained ;)
[05:35] <dani> hey they say that you can download things over here... just by using commands... IS THAT RIGHT???
[05:35] <dani> Is everybody using Linux?
[05:35] <pollyo> dani: are you using kubuntu?
[05:35] <dani> No I don think so... -_-!
[05:35] <Visitor_> i am
[05:35] <Tm_T> ok, I'm heading to work so see you later kids ->
[05:36] <dani> OH YEAH I must be stupid I forgot I was on kubuntu channel
[05:36] <Visitor_> i need to get limewire-----   or gnutella to work
[05:36] <DarkED> AmyRose: hey thanks
[05:36] <dani> nop, actually I'm using Kubuntu 6.10...
[05:36] <Visitor_> also wondering if i could get a  program for my ipod
[05:36] <AmyRose> You're welcome, DarkED. I missed IrfanView too until Gwenview came out
[05:37] <dani> I just migrated from the 64bit version, I had some problems with audio and Flash...
[05:37] <dani> now 32bit, full support!
[05:37] <dani> The world is not prepared for the 64bit I think though...
[05:37] <dani> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL
[05:37] <dani> JA,JA,JA,JA
[05:37] <dani> q lo quera esta gente no me entiende nada d nada
[05:37] <voorhees86> eu falo portugues
[05:38] <AmyRose> !es | dani
[05:38] <dani> con lo locazo q estoy!
[05:38] <voorhees86> cerve?
[05:38] <dani> EH VOCE!?
[05:38] <Visitor_> neat
[05:38] <dani> OI
[05:38] <dani> COMO TAIS?
[05:38] <voorhees86> oii
[05:38] <Visitor_> i  got the newest gnutella     just not understanding how to replace the old one
[05:38] <voorhees86> estais falando comigo?
[05:38] <dani> !es??? HEY DO u SPEAK IN C ???
[05:38] <AmyRose> What the heck?
[05:39] <dani> Hey we have people all around the world!!!
[05:39] <AmyRose> yo hablo el castellano pero gente que necesita hablar en castellano necesitan usar #kubuntu-es
[05:39] <dani> I love this stuff
[05:39] <dani> JA,JA,JA
[05:39] <DarkED> :)
[05:39] <DarkED> AmyRose: yeah, irfanview is by far my favorite image processing app
[05:39] <dani> oiga enserio!?
[05:39] <dani> q bien!!!
[05:39] <dani> EWN TODAS!!!
[05:39] <dani> Y hablas en C++  TAMBIEN!!!
[05:40] <AmyRose> netsplit!
[05:40] <Visitor_> WOW
[05:40] <dani> !es !dani
[05:40] <dani> bueno fue un OR
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es !dani - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <AmyRose> Visitor_: Netsplit
[05:40] <dani> WTF!!!???
[05:40] <Sesshoumaru> W00T!
[05:40] <Visitor_> netsplit
[05:40] <Visitor_> ?
[05:41] <Visitor_> LoL
[05:41] <Visitor_> o0ok
[05:41] <Sesshoumaru> splitting of net
[05:41] <dani> what's that? A websearcher!?
[05:41] <Visitor_> again im a virgin at this
[05:41] <dani> COME ON IS IT BETTER THAT GOOGLE???
[05:41] <dani> Wow
[05:41] <dani> really
[05:41] <dani> ?
[05:41] <dani> ja,ja,ja
[05:41] <dani> me troo
[05:41] <dani> BELIEVE!!!
[05:41] <dani> BELIEVE ME!
[05:41] <AmyRose> Visitor_: The network lost sync, causing it to split up. That's what a netsplit is
[05:41] <dani> IT my first time as well
[05:41] <Visitor_> ahh
[05:42] <dani> Hey Amymine where R U from??
[05:42] <dani> si hablas como yo, no creo q de Estados
[05:42] <supernix> I am confused everytime I install anything using adept manager like phpmyadmin it gets the root user as the owner which means practically nobody can access the files
[05:43] <supernix> looks like they would fix that
[05:43] <dani> AS THE OWNER OF WHAT?
[05:43] <dani> of the application?
[05:43] <supernix> files like phpmyadmin
[05:43] <pbcustom98> hi
[05:43] <dani> Well you can allow root access to users, as well as edit the permissions manually
[05:44] <Visitor_> amyrose    thank you for your   ummm words of wisdom!   its been a learning experiance!  wish i had more time--  but gotta do the work thing at 9 am---     so again thank you  and hope to see u again
[05:44] <dani> U know, read, write, EXECUTE permissions
[05:44] <dani> that's why I love Linux
[05:44] <DJAnubis> ho
[05:44] <AmyRose> Visitor_: You'll see me again. Just remind me who you are if you want to talk to me again.
[05:44] <dani> NO .EXE
[05:44] <DJAnubis> sayers: woah
[05:44] <Visitor_> LoL    i will and thank you !
[05:44] <AmyRose> and you're welcome Visitor_
[05:44] <supernix> dani: that would not even be close to a fix for the situation
[05:44] <Visitor_> :p
[05:44] <dani> bueno no entendi
[05:45] <dani> Eh Mi amigo no Brasil!!!!
[05:45] <dani> ON TA VOCE!!!????
[05:45] <DJAnubis> this  like live  user thingg  i  sssss awesssssssssmmooooo
[05:45] <dani> NO?
[05:45] <dani> why not... U can manually change permissions on a file!
[05:45] <DJAnubis> I am so bloody oout of it!
[05:46] <dani> Why it wouldn't??
[05:46] <duane_> amy rose  -- its visitor_       i have a question -- in hopes u can help
[05:47] <dani> no prob U know, you're the expert I was just saying somethign I read before...
[05:47] <chemicalvamp> ahh lol.. i accidently changed k3b so now it thinks my dvd writer has max write speed of 70... please tell me how to make it re-detect
[05:47] <dani> Amy ROse? Then visitor probably habla espaol tambien???
[05:48] <dani> no?
[05:48] <dani> Damn
[05:48] <chemicalvamp> nevermind, just clicked refresh
[05:48] <Sesshoumaru> anybody know of a free video editor/producer
[05:49] <duane_> hmmmm
[05:49] <Sesshoumaru> like a alternative of pinnacle studio
[05:50] <Sesshoumaru> and its free^ :)
[05:51] <dani> I have to apologize this is a support chat... WOW! That's great
[05:51] <dani> I was using it as a chat
[05:51] <dani> I just figured out...
[05:51] <_kiwi_> identify
[05:52] <dani> OK anyway, I entered here 'cause I wanted to know what's IRC for? I mean, is it like another chat room? What's the difference? Can U send commands to a server for downloads or something like that?
[05:52] <AmyRose> dani: uh...
[05:52] <dani> This is my first time using IRC and is on Linux...
[05:53] <AmyRose> dani: IRC is a real-time chat protocol
[05:53] <dani> ok
[05:53] <eeanm> freenode is used for open source projects
[05:53] <AmyRose> dani: It's much more powerful than Java- or Flash-based crap ;P
[05:53] <sayers> AmyRose: java is good :(
[05:53] <eeanm> dani: freenode is the irc network your on
[05:53] <dani> je,je,je... What do U mean by powerful???
[05:53] <eeanm> sayers: java-based chat?
[05:53] <dani> I like Java too...
[05:53] <AmyRose> sayers: I disagree. It's slow. I prefer IRC over Java
[05:54] <sayers> AmyRose: Java is .1 times slower than C++
[05:54] <eeanm> java applet chat
[05:54] <eeanm> have you even used java applet chat sayers :P
[05:54] <AmyRose> sayers: Well, if compiled in GCJ, you're probably right
[05:54] <sayers> Applets suck
[05:54] <eeanm> thats what AmyRose was talking about
[05:54] <eeanm> keep up sayers ;)
[05:54] <kubuntuonsteroid> AmyRose:  i lub uz
[05:54] <dani> yeah I agree... Applets are too slow sometimes
[05:54] <AmyRose> Huh?
[05:54] <eeanm> well not that, they just suck sometimes
[05:54] <AmyRose> kubuntuonsteroid: What the hell?
[05:54] <eeanm> compared to an irc cloient
[05:54] <kubuntuonsteroid> i dreamed abiut you
[05:55] <AmyRose> kubuntuonsteroid: Please don't hit on me... o.o
[05:55] <dani> Somehow I llove the programming language tough
[05:55] <NightBird> so I'm trying to install beryl, but it depends on libdbus-1-2, anyo
[05:55] <NightBird> ne know how to fix that?
[05:55] <dani> just install the dependenci
[05:55] <dani> e
[05:55] <dani> its a repository, isn't it?
[05:55] <NightBird> dani, no
[05:55] <NightBird> that's the problem
[05:55] <dani> ok
[05:55] <eeanm> ...there is a repo for it
[05:55] <kubuntuonsteroid> AmyRose:  i am not hitting on you i just love you
[05:56] <eeanm> stfu kubuntuonsteroid
[05:56] <AmyRose> uh, I don't even know you, kubuntuonsteroid
[05:56] <kubuntuonsteroid> why cant i love people
[05:56] <eeanm> cause its creepy
[05:56] <kubuntuonsteroid> i love all humans
[05:56] <AmyRose> kubuntuonsteroid: It's freaky if I don't know who you are.
[05:56] <kubuntuonsteroid> so
[05:56] <kubuntuonsteroid> not true
[05:56] <kubuntuonsteroid> we are all the same
[05:56] <eeanm> so shut the fuck up
[05:56] <NightBird> er... ok, the repo I'm pulling beryl from doesn't have the library, and neither does the normal
[05:56] <dani> I though that Ubuntu/Kubuntu automatically download the repos automatically
[05:56] <kubuntuonsteroid> eeanm even you and me are the same person
[05:57] <eeanm> NightBird: you sure you have the right repo then?
[05:57] <kubuntuonsteroid> eeanm i love you
[05:57] <reli1> Is there any option for a panel (QT, pref) other than kicker?
[05:57] <kubuntuonsteroid> reli1 i love you
[05:57] <dani> WHERE RADICATES THE POWER OF THE IRC????
[05:57] <chemicalvamp> kubuntuonsteroid, are you under the influence of extasy?
[05:57] <kubuntuonsteroid> open source is about love eeanm
[05:57] <eeanm> lol dani
[05:57] <kubuntuonsteroid> opensource=love
[05:57] <dani> Pretty much the little and minusculus speed difference with Java?
[05:57] <eeanm> is everyone high tonight?
[05:58] <AmyRose> dani: Please don't use all caps
[05:58] <dani> I'M with Ganja!
[05:58] <pollyo> Hello
[05:58] <kubuntuonsteroid> w./o love you guys wouldnt have linux
[05:58] <dani> Really!
[05:58] <AmyRose> eeanm: No, I'm not
[05:58] <chemicalvamp> no.. just kubuntuonsteroid
[05:58] <dani> and learning
[05:58] <kubuntuonsteroid> and yet you arent aware of it
[05:58] <dani> Excuse me
[05:58] <NightBird> eeanm: I think so... let me try something
[05:58] <kubuntuonsteroid> i love you dani
[05:58] <dani> yeah for americans is like a cry...
[05:58] <dani> no no no
[05:58] <dani> hey backoff!
[05:58] <kubuntuonsteroid> i love you
[05:58] <eeanm> dani: IRC is 25 years old
[05:58] <dani> Amy pls tellme then, if possible..
[05:58] <eeanm> about
[05:58] <eeanm> why not google
[05:59] <dani> where is the power
[05:59] <chemicalvamp> !love
[05:59] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[05:59] <kubuntuonsteroid> i love you nixternal
[05:59] <dani> yeah you're right
[05:59] <kubuntuonsteroid> i love you ubotu
[05:59] <AmyRose> @lart kubuntuonsteroid
[05:59] <dani> Here I go Wiki!!!
[05:59] <dani> THNX FOR THE HELP!
[05:59] <kubuntuonsteroid> yw dani we help because we love you
[05:59] <chemicalvamp> !botsnack
[05:59] <ubotu> Yum!
[05:59] <dani> Just looking for a site to download using IRC
[05:59] <dani> and the commands
[05:59] <kubuntuonsteroid> i love you chemicalvamp
[05:59] <pbcustom98> how do i add a GPG authentication using konsole?
[05:59] <kubuntuonsteroid> i love you pbcustom98
[06:00] <chemicalvamp> ubot loves me, cuz im the only one who feeds him
[06:00] <dani> ja,ja,ja,ja,ja
[06:00] <dani> it can't be
[06:00] <eeanm> pbcustom98: you mean for ssh authentication?
[06:00] <dani> you're not high! But yeah I think it's extasis
[06:00] <NightBird> ok, it's installing now
[06:00] <AmyRose> uh, nixternal, don't you have to kick him too?
[06:00] <dani> bye
[06:00] <nixternal> nope, just a quiet will work
[06:01] <drew_> I'm trying to use roadsend to compile a PHP script in Kubuntu FF, I'm getting an error about scintilla_new, does anyone know what package would contain this symbol?
[06:01] <pbcustom98> eeanm: no for beryl
[06:01] <AmyRose> hmm, on EsperNet, you have to kick them too, that's why I asked
[06:01] <eeanm> pbcustom98: usually they give the command right there...
[06:02] <pbcustom98> eeanm: its giving me a broken pipe error. however i have downloaded the GPG key, and would like to add it
[06:02] <reli1> pbcustom98: sudo apt-key add
[06:03] <pbcustom98> reli1: thanks, worked nicely :)
[06:04] <nixternal> Ashfire908: welcome Elmhurst :)
[06:04] <pollyo> Anyone here ever used the package that adds some activeX support to konqueror?
[06:04] <pollyo> I found reference to it on kde page but could not find it in any downloadable package.
[06:04] <nixternal> pollyo: I can't say that I have ever heard of it
[06:04] <pollyo> It appears to be listed in a KDE news for 2002.
[06:05] <pollyo> nixternal: Let me get the name.
[06:05] <pollyo> Konqueror - Reaktivate Released
[06:05] <pollyo> Reaktivate
[06:06] <pollyo> http://www.konqueror.org/announcements/reaktivate.php
[06:06] <pollyo> I can't even find a website that says the package is dead or alive.
[06:08] <philphoto> has the MP3 file bug been taken care of in any of the recent updates of feisty?
[06:08] <pollyo> What is the mp3 bug?
[06:09] <nixternal> pollyo: did you click on the test links? it seems it works
[06:10] <pollyo> nixternal: The links on that page weren't working the otherday.  Let me give it another try.
[06:10] <pbcustom98> anyone use aquamarine?
[06:10] <nixternal> LivePics isn't working
[06:10] <drew_> I'm trying to use roadsend to compile a PHP script in Kubuntu FF, I'm getting an error about scintilla_new, does anyone know what package would contain this symbol?
[06:10] <unix_infidel> !fiesty
[06:10] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:11] <DJAnubis> whaaa
[06:11] <DJAnubis> I'm backz
[06:12] <nixternal> grrr
[06:13] <nixternal> that was close
[06:13] <pbcustom98> anyone use beryl ?
[06:13] <nixternal> yay!
[06:13] <NightBird> I do
[06:13] <NightBird> now
[06:13] <firecrotch> pbcustom98: I do
[06:13] <nickv111> Hey. I recently put a floppy drive in my computer, but I can't tell if it's being recognized
[06:14] <pbcustom98> you use aquamarine or emerald?
[06:14] <NightBird> I'm using emerald
[06:14] <DJAnubis> why can't I click any links to download things in konquer
[06:14] <nickv111> I'm running Kubuntu 6.10
[06:14] <pbcustom98> im trying to set it up via terminal...but im getting errors saying the packages arent found...
[06:14] <nickv111> pbcustom98: In fact, I just installed Beryl
[06:14] <NightBird> pbcustom98: libdbus-1-2?
[06:15] <nickv111> Great. We should form a club
[06:15] <NightBird> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install_Beryl_on_Ubuntu_Edgy_with_nVidia#Adding_Beryl_repository
[06:15] <pbcustom98> what is libdbus-1-2?
[06:15] <NightBird> that's what I used for instructions
[06:15] <pbcustom98> thats actually the guide im using hehe
[06:16] <DJAnubis> can I fucking download things in Konqueror or not?
[06:16] <nixternal> !language > DJAnubis
[06:16] <NightBird> DJAnubis: yes
[06:16] <DJAnubis> yeah yeah, language
[06:16] <DJAnubis> why can't I download then???
[06:16] <NightBird> you should be able to download things just fine using konqueror
[06:16] <DJAnubis> I click on a filefront link and it does diddly squat
[06:16] <nixternal> DJAnubis: are you getting an error at all when you try?
[06:16] <carutsu> file:///home/carutsu/carutsu/.aMule/Incoming/Luis Miguel - O tu o ninguna.mp3
[06:16] <carutsu> file:///home/carutsu/carutsu/.aMule/Incoming/Ricky Martin y Chambao- Tu Recuerdo.mp3
[06:17] <carutsu> sorry
[06:17] <carutsu> sorry
[06:17] <carutsu> sorry
[06:17] <nixternal> one sorry is enough :)
[06:17] <carutsu> nixternal i pasted in the wrong window, sorry
[06:17] <DJAnubis> nix, no
[06:17] <pbcustom98> i am still getting an error message saying that the package isnt found..
[06:17] <nixternal> carutsu: however, you just shared with the world that you listen to Ricky Martin ;p
[06:17] <dani> yes U can download with IRC... mIRC and INVISION are two applications that are used for IRC Downloads. Somehow I can't find how to do it in Linux...
[06:18] <carutsu> nixternal: well yes only that one
[06:18] <nixternal> sure ;)
[06:18] <carutsu> nixternal xD!
[06:18] <carutsu> !language > carutsu
[06:18] <nixternal> DJAnubis: I would say there is an issue with Filefront, because I can't download either
[06:19] <carutsu> !ares
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ares - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <nixternal> DJAnubis: do you have a "download key" for Filefront? I just got some warning that says I do no
[06:19] <carutsu> what program is ares-like in linux?
[06:19] <DJAnubis> can someone give me steaminstall.exe then???
[06:20] <firecrotch> carutsu: What is ares? What does it do?
[06:20] <DJAnubis> ausgamers looks promising
[06:20] <toferrado> I did install the j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin package using sudo apt-get install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin command... how do I full uninstall it?
[06:20] <nixternal> downloads fine with Firefox, but not with Konqi. DJAnubis you found a bug my friend, get to reporting :)
[06:21] <carutsu> firecrotch is a p2p client like aMule (or eMule) but a lot faster
[06:21] <carutsu> firecrotch: it works if you want, say, 1 or 2 songs
[06:21] <firecrotch> carutsu: You could try running it in Wine
[06:21] <carutsu> firecrotch: of course for pure backups porpuses, xD!!
[06:22] <DJAnubis> nix, do the honors, I'm on lunesta and being yelled at
[06:22] <DJAnubis> please report
[06:22] <carutsu> firecrotch yep i'll do that i love the wine-tools included in feisty
[06:22] <DJAnubis> firecrotch, that sounds like an infection
[06:22] <firecrotch> DJAnubis: :-P
[06:22] <thill2708> is there really no valid kde-way of getting desktop effects a la the gnome ubuntu?
[06:23] <nickv111> firecrotch: You should get that checked out
[06:23] <DJAnubis> anyways, nixternal please report for me
[06:23] <nixternal> DJAnubis: I can do that. I will report it on LP and KDE
[06:23] <firecrotch> thill2708: Huh?  You mean beryl?
[06:23] <thill2708> firecrotch: well, sure, but that or compiz. Whatever's best supported
[06:23] <DJAnubis> thank you much
[06:23] <DJAnubis> I'll be on next week
[06:24] <firecrotch> !beryl | thill2708
[06:24] <ubotu> thill2708: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:24] <hayden> does any one else have this probelem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2392288#post2392288
[06:24] <thill2708> !compiz
[06:24] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:25] <thill2708> thanks, firecrotch
[06:25] <firecrotch> thill2708:  You're welcome :)
[06:25] <sayers> Now an item in the taskbar stays in the taskbar on each Desktop in Beryl :*
[06:25] <firecrotch> thill2708: BTW, I recommend Beryl over compiz
[06:26] <thill2708> firecrotch; whyzat?
[06:26] <sayers> How do I have unique items in the taskbar each desktop on Beryl
[06:26] <thill2708> I headr compiz was more stable
[06:26] <firecrotch> thill2708: Better configuration system
[06:26] <hitmanWilly___> speaking of beryl, does anyone know how to get the titlebars back after starting it?
[06:26] <pollyo> I was reading about the possibility of compiz and beryl joining forces.
[06:26] <firecrotch> thill2708: I could never get compiz to work
[06:27] <firecrotch> pollyo: They are indeed merging
[06:27] <thill2708> firecrotch; does beryl crash on you?
[06:27] <firecrotch> thill2708: Not once
[06:27] <thill2708> well, it's being talked about
[06:27] <thill2708> firecrotch; sounds good, then
[06:27] <hitmanWilly___> pollyo: slashdot's got a story up that they in fact are
[06:27] <sayers> I just wish my Taskbar items were unique rather than having one huge ass taskbar which is like 4 of the same desktops
[06:27] <pollyo> firecrotch: I hope we see even more impressive results from them working together.
[06:27] <carutsu> hey i have a werid behavior, my taskbar is in two rows and the icons in the system tray align very nicely but when i open too many the just break to one row and takes too much space@
[06:28] <carutsu> can i fix this?
[06:28] <pollyo> hitmanWilly___: The story wasn't published the 1st was it?
[06:28] <hitmanWilly___> pollyo: nope, saw it today
[06:28] <hitmanWilly___> i think
[06:28] <pollyo> Google started its new Tisp service on the first of April.
[06:29] <hitmanWilly___> pollyo: yes i know about google's and slashdot's april fools stuff
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[06:29] <hitmanWilly___> pollyo: and tisp was hillarious
[06:30] <[pyro] > how many more days untill the next version of kubuntu comes out?
[06:30] <pollyo> [pyro] : To many?  Not enough?
[06:30] <thill2708> pyro; I'm running feisty kubuntu now, it's totally fine for me
[06:30] <nonuda> i'm reconfiguring x server on hp vectra vl, right now i can't start x, i believe it was because the vga driver in the xorg.conf is not setup correctly, how do i enable x? btw hp website said the vga is instegrated s3 trio, i have choose s3 driver in reconfiguring x but it said "s3(0): no valid modes found"
[06:31] <pollyo> BRB
[06:31] <dwidmann> thill2708: I've noticed only two annoying problems so far in Feisty :(
[06:31] <pbcustom98> can i send someone a /msg as a test?
[06:32] <dwidmann> pbcustom98: probably
[06:32] <firecrotch> pbcustom98: use ubotu :)
[06:32] <thill2708> dwidmann: wassat?
[06:33] <dwidmann> I seem to have run into a bug in gwenview such that scaling is pathetically slow. Seems Konqueror is a bit slower also, but that's just an annoyance (particualarly when rendering the bookmarks toolbar I notice a hit)
[06:34] <philphoto> anyone running GIMP in Feisty?
[06:35] <firecrotch> philphoto:  yep
[06:35] <philphoto> firecrotch: does it work well?
[06:35] <philphoto> any bugs?
[06:36] <firecrotch> philphoto: I don't do much with it, but I haven't had any issues
[06:36] <philphoto> very cool.
[06:36] <dwidmann> philphoto: I used it but just to resize and recompress an image. Not a very comprehensive test but it at least shows that it runs
[06:37] <philphoto> firecrotch: funny that you use that nick.  i'm a redhead
[06:37] <philphoto> dwidmann: thanks.  I'm going to be using it regularly for some intensive photo work.
[06:38] <ivan_> !ru
[06:38] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[06:41] <darryl_> ok this has been driving me nuts all night - usually I am good on google, but I can not for the life of me find out how to make xmms my default mp3 player.... can someone please help?
[06:43] <dwidmann> darryl_ you can probably do it from konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> file assocations->
[06:43] <nixternal> darryl_: you can go into Konqueror, go to an MP3 file, right click it, select "Open With", then select "Other". In the dialog window, select XMMS and then select the "Remember application association of for this type of file
[06:43] <nixternal> or what dwidmann said :)
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> either way works
[06:43] <darryl_> nixterna: I already tried that with no luck
[06:43] <darryl_> dwidmann: ok checking now
[06:45] <darryl_> wahoooo
[06:45] <darryl_> I been looking on google forever for that
[06:45] <sayers> why does when I start up Kubuntu it runs what I ran last time I was on my computer?
[06:46] <hitmanWilly> sayers: its a setting
[06:46] <sayers> Where can I edit this setting?
[06:46] <dwidmann> :D
[06:46] <Yorokobi> sayers, you probably logged out of KDE with those apps running.
[06:46] <darryl_> thanks again dwidmann
[06:46] <dwidmann> You're welcome
[06:46] <sayers> hitmanWilly: How can I disable it?
[06:46] <philphoto> so, has feisty been fixed so we can use MP3's yet?
[06:47] <darryl_> I changed from Windoze to Linux today :) :)
[06:47] <sayers> darryl_ +1
[06:47] <philphoto> darryl_:  WELCOME TO FREEDOM!
[06:47] <hitmanWilly> sayers: go into system settings -> advanced ->session manager
[06:47] <darryl_> now my mp3's are working im a happy camper
[06:48] <philphoto> darryl_: what version are you using?
[06:48] <darryl_> Kubuntu
[06:48] <darryl_> I think Edgy?
[06:49] <philphoto> edgy 6.10?  earlier? or did you jump right in to Feisty 7.04?
[06:49] <darryl_> Linux darryl-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:49] <darryl_> that was my uname -a
[06:49] <philphoto> yeah, edgy
[06:49] <darryl_> I think its edgy
[06:49] <dwidmann> Yep, that's edgy
[06:49] <darryl_> yea
[06:49] <philphoto> it works well.  you'll like it, hopefully
[06:50] <darryl_> Oh I do thats why I scraped windoze
[06:50] <darryl_> I feel more incontrol with this than Windoze
[06:50] <philphoto> I moved over about 10 days ago & I love it despite all my frustration at times.
[06:50] <philphoto> totally.
[06:50] <darryl_> plus now I dont need to run that Norton crap
[06:50] <darryl_> my computer was soooooo slow
[06:50] <darryl_> now its fast
[06:50] <hitmanWilly> norton ram sucker 3000
[06:50] <dwidmann> Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if things like Norton or mcaffee contained malware themselves
[06:51] <darryl_> and I run WIndows in Virtual machine just for Outlook - and I plan on changing that soon too
[06:51] <philphoto> I DO have to make a dual-boot drive with a windows partition on it to use one of my film scanners, but besides that, I'm not going back.
[06:51] <darryl_> yea norton sucks big resource user
[06:51] <philphoto> norton is totally malware.
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> i still use windows for poser, and thats about it
[06:51] <philphoto> norton + wondows = less than half of your ram available for real use.
[06:51] <sayers> hitmanWilly: That is not there
[06:51] <scubasteve> how come everytime i restart my computer, my resolution gets fubar-ed
[06:51] <darryl_> hahahaha
[06:52] <dwidmann> I forget where that one funny thing was, stating how windows was not a virus, because virus's are actually designed better than windows, I should dig that up.
[06:52] <darryl_> yea im done with norton
[06:52] <sayers> Fudged up beyond all repair :)
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> sayers: oh wait, you probably are on edgy
[06:52] <philphoto> ha ha ha
[06:52] <sayers> hitmanWilly: Yes I am gonna wait on feisty
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> sayers: open system settings
[06:52] <philphoto> the windows boot.ini loads like avirus & writes over anything in it path.
[06:52] <dwidmann> http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-115
[06:53] <sayers> hitmanWilly: Like KControl?
[06:53] <hitmanWilly> sayers: yeah
[06:53] <sayers> hitmanWilly: Okay what now?
[06:53] <sayers> hitmanWilly: Found it thanks
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> sayers: kewl, harkening back to my edgy days
[06:54] <sayers> hitmanWilly: Is feisty stable enough yet?
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> sayers: i have yet to have any serious problems
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> sayers: the actual production release comes out this month
[06:55] <hayden> does anyone in here know how to get rid of those little red dots that show up on  all the icons
[06:55] <sayers> hitmanWilly: Yes, what features does it have?
[06:55] <carutsu> firecrotch: just for the record, Ares runs perfectly with wine and if you want a Linux-based solution you can instal Frostwire instead it can conect with near any p2p networs
[06:55] <carutsu> *network
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> sayers: better wifi support, slightly improved look and feel, updated kernel, etc.
[06:56] <firecrotch> carutsu: Cool.  Make sure you add it to winehq's compatibility list if it's not already there
[06:57] <carutsu> sayers: i must tell you the system feels somehow faster, Konqueror takes >1 second to start (in this same machine it could take up to 3 secs)
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> sayers: plus beryl and compiz are in the repos now, if you want to use that
[06:57] <carutsu> sayers: i like it very much overall
[06:57] <scubasteve> KDE is pissing me off lol
[06:58] <sayers> Ill do it ... sooner or later :)
[06:58] <dwidmann> scubasteve: in what way?
[06:58] <sayers> I am going to go to bed now. Beryl was cool but I am not going to accutely use it. To used to static desktops :P
[06:59] <carutsu> scubasteve: if kde is too much for you you might want to give a try to GNOME ther 2.18 release is quite good actually, its slogan is "Simply beautifull" and i gotta admit Gnome is quite nice because it feels a lot more ordered
[06:59] <hayden> where do you get kubuntu fiesty?
[06:59] <carutsu> !feisty|hayden
[06:59] <ubotu> hayden: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[06:59] <scubasteve> basically, KDE doesnt save my settings at all
[07:00] <carutsu> scubasteve, i think is a problem with your system it saves my settings over here, ALL of them ;)
[07:00] <dwidmann> hayden: look at the channel topic
[07:00] <scubasteve> well it probably is, but i cant figure out how to save them :)
[07:01] <dwidmann> scubasteve, the best way to set the resolution is in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> scubasteve: that should be in kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Session Manager
[07:02] <pollyo> I installed Gnome and I think it looks sharp.
[07:02] <hitmanWilly> dont really care for gnome
[07:02] <scubasteve> well, since i installed emerald, it is the only thing in settings.
[07:03] <pollyo> I'm trying to figure out why the text to speech comes and goes in chat.
[07:04] <firecrotch> How can list all users with their UIDs?
[07:04] <terrysco> hi,all
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> firecrotch: user management under system settings
[07:05] <firecrotch> hitmanWilly: Command line :)
[07:05] <hayden> fiesty powerpc?
[07:05] <terrysco> is there some download soft on kubuntu?
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> firecrotch: all that info is in /etc/passwd
[07:08] <hayden> ??fiesty powerpc???
[07:09] <firecrotch> hayden: what about it?
[07:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Anyone experiencing problems with ICQ in Kopete currently?
[07:09] <chipbuddy> does anyone know the command in vim to turn line wrapping off?
[07:09] <hayden> does it exist?
[07:10] <chipbuddy> yeah, i was able to do it at work
[07:10] <sayers> Some times the terminal is  so much easier
[07:10] <chipbuddy> but i've forgotten
[07:10] <sayers> I sure hope this is upgrading right
[07:10] <chipbuddy> ah... lame... ok i got it
[07:11] <firecrotch> hayden: I don't see an ISO for it anywhere
[07:11] <firecrotch> !ppc
[07:11] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up until edgy, and is now a community port.
[07:12] <akrus> hello everyone
[07:12] <sayers> Howdy
[07:12] <akrus> could someone tell me if it's possible to use Bluetooth Modem in Linux (mobile phone/Pocket PC)? :)
[07:13] <nixternal> chipbuddy: set wrapoff
[07:13] <sayers> Yes it is
[07:13] <nixternal> chipbuddy: sorry
[07:13] <nixternal> chipbuddy: set nowrap
[07:13] <chipbuddy> thanks nixternal
[07:13] <nixternal> no problem
[07:13] <sayers> akrus: if your phone supports it and you have the parts
[07:14] <akrus> phone supports it, under Windows it worked well :)
[07:14] <akrus> any guide on this? :)
[07:14] <hayden> so there won't be any official help for fiesty powerpc
[07:14] <pollyo> Aren't they making Ubuntu for Wii?
[07:14] <sayers> Then it will work well most likely on Ubuntu
[07:14] <pollyo> Doesn't that use PPC?
[07:14] <drew_> I'm trying to use roadsend to compile a PHP script in Kubuntu FF, I'm getting an error about scintilla_new, does anyone know what package would contain this symbol?
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: a variant of it
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: i think
[07:15] <sstchur> Using Kate, how can I replace all ; with ; [line-break]  ?
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> HEy pollyo... How's beryl advancing? ;-)
[07:15] <sayers> akrus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup I think this would work
[07:15] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I didn't do much with it today.
[07:15] <firecrotch> sstchur:  replace with ;/n  (I think that will work)
[07:15] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: But you got it working?
[07:16] <sayers> Is it possible that the feisty upgrade only contained 46 upgrades?
[07:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I have it installed.  Working is another issue. <grin>
[07:16] <MilhousePunkRock> sayers: Today, yes...
[07:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I do not beleive my current drivers will run it.
[07:16] <sayers> MilhousePunkRock: Still dont think it installed, how can I check?
[07:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I am not sure if I can install any other drivers for the NV TNT2 but I will check.
[07:17] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: I don't believe your current hardware will run it...
[07:17] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Either do I/
[07:17] <MilhousePunkRock> sayers: When did you upgrade?
[07:17] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Though I will be running it in a few weeks.
[07:17] <sayers> MilhousePunkRock: 5 secconds ago
[07:17] <MilhousePunkRock> sayers: For the first time?
[07:17] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: When the "Official" Feisty is out I will be putting it on my main computer.  I've been playing with it on this machine for a few weeks.
[07:18] <MilhousePunkRock> sayers: Use the dist-upgrade tool, like the channel topic says
[07:18] <sayers> MilhousePunkRock: never mind I got the upgrader to start, it had to upgrade before it could upgrade :)
[07:18] <sstchur> firecrotch: it's literally putting "/n" in the file
[07:19] <MilhousePunkRock> sayers: Things you will notice: More kernels in the grub menu, brand new ones, and a slightly bigger usplash screen
[07:19] <firecrotch> sstchur: Hmm... I dunno then.  At least it's easy to change it back
[07:19] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I have to research one more program before putting it on the other computer.  That is a program that will allow me to see the Kubuntu drive from Windows.
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: samba
[07:19] <sayers> MilhousePunkRock: eww an hour or so download at 1:20 AM, ill do this today, but later :)
[07:19] <sstchur> true
[07:19] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: From a dual boot system.
[07:20] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: When I boot into windows I want to be able to access the Linux drive.
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: oh
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: my bad
[07:20] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: I think someone said there was a mount utility for windows.
[07:20] <MilhousePunkRock> sayers: You cannot abort the dist upgrader
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: probably somewhere
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: NTFS3G
[07:21] <hayden> has anyone gotten that lockfile error in Amarok when trying to mount an iPod?
[07:21] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Isn't that for Linux to read NTFS?  I'm looking for Windows to read EXT2 or 3... I think it is called EXT
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: At least that is what I use in Gentoo to access the XP drive
[07:22] <sstchur> what does everyone (anyone) recommend as a good all purpose editor (primarily, javascript, html, css, php, etc...) ?  I've been using Kate, which I really like, but it seems to have some limitations
[07:22] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I use NTFS-3g on this machine to access my Windows XP partition.
[07:22] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: Oh, that way... There is something too... Can't remember the nama though, but I can google that in no time
[07:23] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I just want to be able to access files both ways. So I do not have to keep rebooting just to get data files beteen the two OSes.
[07:24] <sonoftheclayr> pollyo: ext2ifs will let you view ext2 in windows
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Ext2-IFS.shtml
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: :-P
[07:24] <pollyo> Thank you.
[07:24] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: You can even write on them, but be careful, nasty windows viruses could destroy your linux this way
[07:24] <firecrotch> sstchur:  I use kate, it does what I need it to do
[07:25] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Thanks for the warning.
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Ext3 too, by the way
[07:25] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I should make a small partition for Windows --> Linux
[07:25] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Or do I have to mount all or nothing?
[07:25] <sstchur> firecrotch: well... me to actually, except this replace line break thing...
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: That's a good idea...
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: No, ext2ifs will have an entry in window's system settings, where you can choose which drives should appear in "my computer"
[07:26] <mehboob> hi, can anyone tell how can I allow root to login , in kubuntu
[07:26] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Great.
[07:27] <firecrotch> sstchur: Just wondering... are you needing this because the file has windows linefeeds?
[07:27] <sstchur> firecrotch: yeah.... and in the future it won't be a problem
[07:27] <sstchur> firecrotch: still, it'd be nice to know how to resolve the issue for now
[07:28] <MilhousePunkRock> mehboob: What do you need root for, sudo does the job...
[07:28] <firecrotch> sstchur:  IIRC, there's an option that will let you view windows linefeeds as unix style linefeeds, and then save it with unix style
[07:29] <hayden> ok, if I come back after this reboot than I upgraded to fiesty succesfully! if not, actually don't even think i won't "bad vibes"
[07:29] <sstchur> firecrotch: yeah, I saw that -- but it didn't seem to show the line breaks
[07:29] <pollyo> Its a small feature but I love it..
[07:30] <pollyo> Having the ability to select new background images and have them autodownloaded and installed.
[07:30] <firecrotch> sstchur: Silly me.... dos2unix   will do it for you
[07:30] <firecrotch> !dos2unix
[07:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dos2unix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <firecrotch> Which is conveniently NOT in the repos
[07:31] <pollyo> What are you attempting to convert a text file?
[07:32] <sstchur> firecrotch: where is that?
[07:32] <mehboob> i want to login into kde with the root account
[07:33] <firecrotch> sstchur: Install the package 'tofrodos'
[07:33] <pollyo> mehboob: Why is that?
[07:33] <ubuntu> #ubuntu+1
[07:33] <mehboob> I cant write to protected directories , using kde
[07:35] <pollyo> mehboob: Can't you use something like gksu or something like that to load an application with root access to write such things??
[07:35] <sstchur> firecrotch: and then, dos2unix myfile.txt ?
[07:35] <pollyo> mehboob: Or :kdsu konqueror"
[07:35] <firecrotch> sstchur:  Yep
[07:35] <mehboob> what does kdsu do?
[07:36] <firecrotch> !kdesu | mehboob
[07:36] <ubotu> mehboob: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[07:36] <pollyo> Can GKSU in kde mess up permissions?
[07:37] <pollyo> !gksudo
[07:37] <ubotu> If you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 
[07:37] <chemicalvamp> anybody here familiar with fiesty (i know fiesty is #ubuntu+1)
[07:37] <chemicalvamp>  i need help getting my wireless to work on a fresh install of fiesty (using my old edgy desktop cd now)
[07:37] <sstchur> firecrotch: and if that doesn't work, does it mean that the windows/unix thing isn't actually the problem then?
[07:38] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I've been using it for about three weeks.  Can't say I know much about it overall though.
[07:38] <firecrotch> sstchur:  Yep.  My guess is that that is the problem though.  Was it written on a windows machine?
[07:38] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What's the problem?
[07:38] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: That I couldn't help you with.
[07:39] <pollyo> 72 updates today.... Crossing my finges.
[07:39] <chemicalvamp> network manager is not working, i dont have internet, unless i set it up myself...
[07:39] <mehboob> thanks: I think this will do
[07:39] <pollyo> fingers even.
[07:39] <firecrotch> chemicalvamp: are you using wlassistant?  If so, use knetworkmanager
[07:39] <sstchur> firecrotch: yes
[07:40] <firecrotch> sstchur:  Then I'd put money on it being exactly that problem.
[07:40] <mehboob> so, has anyone been using kubuntu for some time
[07:40] <chemicalvamp> firecrotch, we're talkin fiesty.. i dont believe wlassistant is installed
[07:40] <firecrotch> chemicalvamp:  If you upgraded, I think it will be
[07:41] <chemicalvamp> again, i dont have internet unless i set the ip, gateway, dhcp, dns myself
[07:41] <sstchur> firecrotch: so how can I get the formatting back?  dos2unix didn't seem to work
[07:41] <chemicalvamp> i cannot even find ANYthing that has anything to do with wireless
[07:42] <firecrotch> chemicalvamp:  sudo apt-get install knetworkmanager
[07:42] <carutsu> when i try to download something (a deb file) kate gets in the way!
[07:43] <chemicalvamp> firecrotch, does that require internet?
[07:43] <firecrotch> sstchur:  you could try using awk to do it
[07:43] <firecrotch> chemicalvamp:  Yes
[07:43] <carutsu> i must click a link of a damn download.php so i cant use save link as, any clues
[07:43] <chemicalvamp> again, i dont have internet unless i set the ip, gateway, dhcp, dns myself
[07:43] <firecrotch> chemicalvamp: then set it yourself :)
[07:44] <chemicalvamp> yes :) im here to find out how
[07:44] <firecrotch> !info knetworkmanager
[07:44] <ubotu> knetworkmanager: User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 213 kB, installed size 1448 kB
[07:45] <firecrotch> Hrm... I have an idea
[07:47] <chemicalvamp> firecrotch, all that does on my install is lets me enable/disable my wireless, does not detect networks, does not have any settings at all (pffft... User friendly KDE frontend)
[07:47] <hayden> hi all im back in what is supposedly fiesty, but how do i know that it really is?
[07:47] <hayden> cause their don't seem to be any changes so far
[07:48] <sstchur> I give up
[07:48] <grego_> Hi all, i have small problem, i've lost ability to choose and setup screensaver and my monitor isnt waking up anymore, i think i turned one service by mistake :/ which one it can be?
[07:48] <grego_> turned of*
[07:49] <underdog5004> how can I check which version of a program I have installed? It's gotta be a command, cause I'm ssh'ing in...
[07:49] <hayden> 4
[07:50] <carutsu> i dont know why Kate is making his way into opening a deb package! i already checked the file asosiations what else shouls i check?
[07:55] <underdog5004> Anyone know how to enable encryption using rtorrent? I've included the line that says:encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,try_outgoing, but I just get an error saying that Variable "encryption" is not defined.
[07:55] <chemicalvamp> is there ANYway at ALL to mount a hard drive while running off of a desktop cd?
[07:55] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, yes
[07:55] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, what filesystem is it?
[07:55] <chemicalvamp> ex3
[07:56] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, ok, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdx /mnt/hdx
[07:56] <grego_> carutsu i have similar problem with tars.. i just switched to optimized firefox..
[07:56] <underdog5004> where the x is the letter/number combo
[07:56] <chemicalvamp> its a fiesty install (that will not cofigure my wireless) and im runing edgy (cuz i can make it work)
[07:56] <underdog5004> I think that'll work
[07:56] <chemicalvamp> underdog5004, mount: mount point /mnt/hdx does not exist
[07:56] <carutsu> grego_ i really wanted to give konqueror a try i like it very much but this is annoying
[07:57] <chemicalvamp> ohh lol
[07:58] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, hmmm, try sudo mkdir /mnt/hdx then try the mount again
[07:59] <chemicalvamp> sudo mount -a dont work
[08:00] <[pyro] > could do with a few more hrs sleep
[08:00] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, uh... mount -a?
[08:00] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdx /mnt/hdx
[08:01] <chemicalvamp> i heard sudo mount -a mounts everything, but yeah im trying
[08:01] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp,  I would recommend downloading a better liveCD for (data recovery?). www.damnsmalllinux.org
[08:01] <[pyro] > more /media/home | grep bed >> /media/work ; sleep
[08:01] <underdog5004> what are you trying to do?
[08:03] <grego_> carutsu , i know... konqueror is fast
[08:03] <chemicalvamp> OKAY... i did sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 then sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 then went to //mnt/hda1 in konkeror
[08:03] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, what are you trying to do?
[08:04] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, did it work?
[08:04] <chemicalvamp> underdog5004, yeah i did properties of the //mnt/hda1 and it shows 65.2 gigs of free space
[08:05] <chemicalvamp> now where would i put somehting so when i boot this, it will be on my desktop
[08:05] <underdog5004> from...the liveCD?
[08:05] <grego_> anyone?  i've lost ability to choose and setup screensaver and my monitor isnt waking up properly anymore , i think i turned of one service by mistake :/ which one it can be?
[08:05] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, I think that you can allow persistent links, but why?
[08:05] <underdog5004> why not just install the distro?
[08:05] <chemicalvamp> here? /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp
[08:06] <chemicalvamp> it IS installed, fiesty will not let me cofigure my wireless internet as-is.. so i have to get what i need on this desktop cd, and now i can save it to my hdd.. so i can install it on fiesty
[08:07] <chemicalvamp> get it?
[08:07] <underdog5004> Anyone know how to enable encryption using rtorrent? I've included the line that says:encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,try_outgoing, but I just get an error saying that Variable "encryption" is not defined.
[08:09] <chemicalvamp> underdog5004, what is persistent links
[08:10] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, it's a persistent (after you reboot) link to a folder...just google around for persistent ubuntu livecd
[08:10] <underdog5004> that'll probably help
[08:13] <akrus> hello everyone once again :)
[08:13] <chemicalvamp> errrmm Access denied to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> i need a solution to rip CD data
[08:13] <akrus> how to unmount a disk drive when it's telling 'device busy'? :)
[08:14] <akrus> Admiral_Chicago: music or plain data?
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> plain data into an iso
[08:14] <akrus> Admiral_Chicago: K3b? :)
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> nope
[08:14] <akrus> genisoimage
[08:15] <akrus> in Konsole
[08:15] <chemicalvamp> now that i have my hda1 mounted, where can i put packages so i may install them after i boot the drive?
[08:16] <akrus> chemicalvamp: ?
[08:16] <Tm_T> hi kids
[08:16] <akrus> chemicalvamp: what do you mean?
[08:16] <akrus> Tm_T: hm, are there any kids? o_O
[08:16] <Tm_T> sure
[08:16] <underdog5004> Anyone know how to enable encryption using rtorrent? I've included the line that says:encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,try_outgoing, but I just get an error saying that Variable "encryption" is not defined.
[08:16] <akrus> hmm
[08:17] <akrus> kids -> using linux? o_O
[08:17] <grego_> i am 11
[08:17] <Tm_T> akrus: why not?
[08:17] <akrus> underdog5004: which version? :)
[08:17] <underdog5004> lol, how do I check?
[08:17] <underdog5004> that was my first question, but it was ignored...bleagh
[08:17] <akrus> underdog5004: rtorrent --version
[08:18] <akrus> you wasn't ignored, just everyone here is mostly away from PC :)
[08:18] <chemicalvamp> im running off of a desktop cd so i can install wireless packages (that fiesty does not have) and the only way i have internet is with edgy
[08:18] <akrus> Tm_T: well, just anyway linux needs user's experience
[08:18] <Tm_T> akrus: just like any OS (:
[08:18] <chemicalvamp> fiesty 7.04 is installed on my hard drive im on 6.10 desktop cd
[08:18] <akrus> Tm_T: so it's a bit harder to understand when you're less than 14 :)
[08:18] <Tm_T> akrus: and young people learn fast
[08:18] <akrus> Tm_T: hm... that's just maybe because i've started with windows
[08:19] <underdog5004> akrus, bad option...
[08:19] <chemicalvamp> hda1 is mounted, but i cant seem to do anything with it
[08:19] <akrus> Tm_T: it took about two months to forget about windows & understand linux is better :)
[08:19] <Tm_T> akrus: trust me, Linux is just as easy/hard as Windows :)
[08:19] <akrus> underdog5004: lemme check :)
[08:19] <chemicalvamp> read only*
[08:19] <underdog5004> rtorrent: Invalid/unknown option flag "--". See rtorrent -h for more information
[08:19] <grego_> yeah.. start under windows is bad experience..
[08:19] <akrus> Tm_T: it's just another :)
[08:19] <akrus> oh
[08:19] <akrus> use -h then lol :)
[08:19] <grego_> :D
[08:19] <underdog5004> akrus, I did...no version identifier
[08:19] <akrus> just with every version windows gets worse and worse
[08:19] <grego_> lol
[08:20] <akrus> whereas Linux is getting better
[08:20] <akrus> Windows is only improving eye-candy
[08:20] <Tm_T> but that's enough ranting, back to support, shall we
[08:20] <chemicalvamp> akrus, very true..
[08:20] <grego_> no really
[08:20] <grego_> dont forget about beryl
[08:20] <akrus> beryl <3 :)
[08:20] <MilhousePunkRock> In that respect I could tell a funny/sad story about Linux vs Windows, but that is slightly OT
[08:21] <underdog5004> akrus, windows is copying some of the tamer parts of beryl....
[08:21] <akrus> underdog5004: really? o_O
[08:21] <akrus> right the source?
[08:21] <underdog5004> MilhousePunkRock, go for it
[08:21] <akrus> or just an idea?
[08:21] <chemicalvamp> i dont have to do anything like running konquerer in kdesu or anything like that to access my drive do i?
[08:21] <Tm_T> akrus: underdog5004: enough about windows, stick in topic ;)
[08:21] <underdog5004> akrus, no, just the look
[08:21] <underdog5004> ok, sorry, Tm_T
[08:22] <akrus> Tm_T: okay, windows sucks, that's all now :)
[08:22] <Tm_T> thanks
[08:22] <akrus> so back to rtorrent
[08:22] <underdog5004> yes
[08:22] <akrus> Tm_T: oh by the way
[08:22] <Tm_T> yes?
[08:22] <akrus> Tm_T: how to unmount a disk drive? xD
[08:22] <chemicalvamp> bill gates is rich enough... support linux!
[08:22] <akrus> even with -f it's busy~
[08:22] <underdog5004> yes, back to rtorrent
[08:22] <MilhousePunkRock> Last week in university, we had to do some presentations. Everyone had their usb drives, i had my laptop, so I distributed the results
[08:22] <underdog5004> akrus, sudo eject /dev/cdrom?
[08:22] <akrus> underdog5004: not cdrom :)
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> One of the usb drives had a physical write protection, and no matter what it was set to, i could not write on it
[08:23] <akrus> underdog5004: last ntfs volume xD
[08:23] <akrus> oh yeah
[08:23] <akrus> unmounted
[08:23] <underdog5004> akrus, sudo eject /dev/hda
[08:23] <akrus> underdog5004: lol :)
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> "you do not have permission to write to /media/USB DRIVE"
[08:23] <underdog5004> anyway...
[08:23] <akrus> sudo umount /dev/sda2
[08:24] <grego_> lol at ejecting hda ( i can imagine that)
[08:24] <akrus> underdog5004: encryption = allow_incoming,enable_retry,prefer_plaintext
[08:24] <akrus> is it like this?
[08:24] <Tm_T> akrus: hmm, fuser /dev/sda2
[08:24] <underdog5004> akrus, yep
[08:24] <akrus> Tm_T: nvm, already unmounted :)
[08:24] <underdog5004> but I still get an error, unless I comment that line out, which defeats the purpose
[08:24] <Tm_T> akrus: fuser is command to find out what is using files etc
[08:24] <Tm_T> akrus: ah, good
[08:24] <akrus> hm, thanks :)
[08:25] <akrus> finally i have everything in ext3
[08:25] <akrus> now editing fstab :3
[08:25] <underdog5004> akrus, lol, just when NTFS write support was supported!
[08:25] <akrus> it's supported
[08:25] <akrus> but has problems with unicode
[08:25] <akrus> with ntfs-3g
[08:26] <grego_> yeah
[08:26] <underdog5004> I was talking about ntfs-3g...
[08:26] <grego_> it have full write support..
[08:26] <underdog5004> but anyway, back to _my_ problem...
[08:26] <akrus> ok
[08:26] <akrus> how to checkout UUID?
[08:26] <akrus> of hdd
[08:26] <akrus> there was a command...
[08:26] <akrus> likely lspci
[08:26] <chemicalvamp> everyone gave up on me?
[08:27] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, what you're trying to do is extremely weird and unnecessary
[08:27] <grego_> carrots are tasty..
[08:27] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, just do a dualboot
[08:27] <grego_> ****!
[08:28] <chemicalvamp> underdog5004, using a desktop cd (wich has the tools i need to set my internet) to get the tools i need for my hdd boot to get internet is unnecessary?
[08:29] <underdog5004> I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstand...you want to downgrade your system to get support for your network card?
[08:29] <chemicalvamp> no i want to get upgrades my install cd was released without.. so i can get on my internet
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Wireless CAN work in Feisty, it does here... You are best of to start from scratch though
[08:30] <chemicalvamp> and do updates and all that fun stuff
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What CD are you using?
[08:30] <chemicalvamp> my fiesty install is brand-spankin new
[08:30] <grego_> chemicalvamp, but do you know which packages you need? why you don't just burn them?
[08:30] <wolferine> what is the main part (besides mount), needed to use nfs to share network drives?
[08:30] <underdog5004> chemicalvamp, oh, then you just need to burn the updates to a cd, then do a sudo apt-get update/upgrade from that...you'll need to edit your sources.list file
[08:30] <chemicalvamp> cant get my wireless to ork though
[08:30] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What encryption is used? SSID hidden?
[08:31] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, whaaa?
[08:31] <chemicalvamp> i have one cdrom drive... on laptop
[08:31] <chemicalvamp> cant eject my desktop cd now can i? :)
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Not done your homework, eh?
[08:31] <chemicalvamp> im kinda new
[08:32] <chemicalvamp> im worried about getting the correct package, and missing dependancies
[08:33] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Let's assume that it really is YOUR wifi you are connecting to... As you seem to be connected right now in Edgy, you might want to head over to the configuration page of your wireless AP. Most likely that is 192.168.1.1 in your web browser
[08:33] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, yes that is my gateway
[08:34] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: So actually you should know about the encryption...
[08:37] <chemicalvamp> that isnt my problem MilhousePunkRock.. iwconfig says i dont have a wireless card
[08:37] <chemicalvamp> on fiesty*
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What chipset does your card have?
[08:40] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to check that again?
[08:42] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: lspci
[08:42] <darryl_> should give you a bit more info
[08:42] <wolferine> nfs anyone?
[08:43] <darryl_> wolerine: what bout it?
[08:43] <wolferine> give me the quick run down (before I mount)
[08:43] <darryl_> what is your question?
[08:43] <kraut> moin
[08:45] <wolferine> what do I need to setup?
[08:45] <darryl_> it  may help if you actualy explain what you are trying to do
[08:46] <wolferine> i have ubuntu server on the other box
[08:46] <wolferine> just wanted to share between the two
[08:46] <darryl_> simply use SCP
[08:46] <darryl_> you definatly do NOT need NFS for that
[08:46] <darryl_> just use SCP
[08:46] <darryl_> especially on a server install
[08:46] <_root> there is a channel for hackers ???
[08:47] <wolferine> just scp?
[08:47] <darryl_> yep here :p
[08:47] <wolferine> thats just a copy command
[08:47] <darryl_> wolferine: yes just use SCP
[08:47] <MilhousePunkRock> _root: want them to enter your machine as you seem to use your root account? ;-)
[08:47] <darryl_> wolferine: is that not what you want???? to copy files????
[08:48] <underdog5004> lol, _root is _so_ 1337!
[08:48] <wolferine> no
[08:48] <wolferine> that is not what I want
[08:48] <underdog5004> good night all
[08:48] <wolferine> i said share, not copy
[08:48] <_root> underdog5004 i dont understand you !!!
[08:48] <darryl_> so you want to make  a "share folder"
[08:48] <darryl_> ??
[08:49] <_root> how c i add new fonts to my system !?!??!
[08:49] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ did you see the paste?
[08:49] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: nope
[08:50] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13631/
[08:50] <wolferine> i want to mount a folder on this machine, that is on my remote machine
[08:50] <wolferine> thus, sharing it
[08:50] <darryl_> wolferine: what i suggest use samba and smfbs
[08:50] <darryl_> very simple
[08:50] <darryl_> very stright forward
[08:50] <darryl_> and it will do what you want
[08:50] <wolferine> i dont want to use samba
[08:50] <wolferine> i want to use nfs
[08:51] <darryl_> wolferine: in my honest opinion nfs sucks
[08:52] <wolferine> ok, sounds good
[08:52] <darryl_> its old, its not secure .... it sucks
[08:52] <wolferine> why is that exactly?
[08:52] <darryl_> there are so many better approaches
[08:52] <wolferine> why is it not secure?
[08:52] <darryl_> google :D
[08:52] <wolferine> edit /etc/hosts.deny
[08:53] <darryl_> wolferine: why you so set on nfs?
[08:53] <darryl_> there are so many better ways
[08:53] <wolferine> i was asking you why its no good
[08:53] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, when i run iwconfig (on fiesty) no adapters have any Wireless Extensions
[08:53] <wolferine> your changing the topic
[08:53] <darryl_> nah
[08:53] <darryl_> im just trying to show you a bettery way
[08:54] <darryl_> you dont have to take my advise
[08:54] <wolferine> i realize that
[08:54] <wolferine> and your avoiding the question
[08:54] <wolferine> thanks though
[08:55] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: do you have a wifi card installed?
[08:55] <darryl_> wolferine: no prob good luck
[08:55] <chemicalvamp> imWireless Extension on woreless right now (using a desktop cd of edgy)
[08:55] <henrik_> morning
[08:56] <chemicalvamp> -Wireless Extension paste glitch i have : /
[08:56] <darryl_> evening
[08:56] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: i looked at your paste and i dont see any errors?????
[08:58] <chemicalvamp> i pasted cuz i cant find my wireless card on it, somebody asked me what it was, and i thought if i needed to know it could help me find it
[08:58] <Mena>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13628/ some see this and i have a problem in conectting to the net with linux but i can with Xp although i use the same settings for both ...so plz see it if you can help
[08:58] <holastickboy> anyone play world of warcraft on linux?
[08:59] <Mena> some one (
[08:59] <Mena> *
[08:59] <Mena> !cadega
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cadega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <Mena> !cedega
[08:59] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:59] <wolferine> mena, chill man
[08:59] <darryl_> Mena: your not getting an IP from the DHCP
[08:59] <chemicalvamp> !info cedega
[08:59] <ubotu> Package cedega does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:00] <Mena> darryl_, and this way
[09:00] <holastickboy> i know, just wanted know about people's experience, like if they got banned
[09:00] <Mena> darryl_, i tried the LiveCd and it conected
[09:00] <_root> cedega is a free (open source)package ?????????/
[09:00] <Mena> way>>Why*
[09:01] <Mena> no i guess its not free
[09:01] <darryl_> Mena: clearly explain your question
[09:01] <Mena> i use the same setting for conectecting to the internet in linux and Xp
[09:02] <darryl_> and by "setting" you mean what exactly????
[09:02] <Mena> darryl_, but on linux i cant conect to the Internet
[09:02] <Mena> Ip And DNS and Gateway
[09:02] <pollyo> Mena: You could have a driver issue though.
[09:02] <darryl_> Mena: was your paste from ifconfig in Linux?
[09:03] <darryl_> pollyo: good point
[09:03] <Mena> darryl_, no from this sudo dhclient
[09:03] <Mena> and route -n
[09:03] <Mena> darryl_, but it was working befor
[09:03] <darryl_> Mena: when your on the linux box and you ifconfig what do you see?
[09:03] <darryl_> also are you set STATIC or DHCP on the Linux box?
[09:04] <darryl_> Mena: becase likely your XP box is DHCP
[09:04] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, all i really need is a package (like wlassistant) and a how-to to copy it onto my hdd, my hdd IS mounted, but i get access denied when i try to copy somthing onto it
[09:04] <Mena> darryl_, DHCP not static
[09:04] <Mena> darryl_, and i tried this ifconfig i guess i get nothing
[09:04] <darryl_> Mena: in this case you are either configure your adapter wrong, or your missing driver
[09:05] <Mena> darryl_, not exist as i guess
[09:05] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: paste me your exact error
[09:05] <_root> sosan is sharmota
[09:05] <Mena> darryl_, i didnt configure my adapter or any thing
[09:05] <darryl_> Mena: you must get something....
[09:05] <Mena> darryl_, befor i had the ability to conect
[09:06] <Mena> darryl_, but when i change the ip i cant
[09:06] <pollyo> Mena: Before in what sense?
[09:06] <darryl_> Mena: is your network card detcted?
[09:06] <Mena> yes
[09:06] <darryl_> Mena: how did you configure your network settings?
[09:07] <Mena> pollyo, befor changing the IP
[09:07] <Mena> darryl_, for kcontrol center
[09:07] <pollyo> Mena: When was it working and what changes did you make?
[09:07] <Mena> from*
[09:07] <darryl_> Mena: I should ask, please describe how your computers connect
[09:07] <Mena> just the ip
[09:07] <darryl_> Mena: are you direct from the modem into the PC?
[09:07] <Mena> with cable
[09:08] <Mena> you mean the router
[09:08] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ it says i dont have write permission
[09:08] <Mena> i am not the router
[09:08] <pollyo> Mena: Are you connected directly to the cable modem or a router?
[09:08] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: do a ls -la on the share and paste me the results
[09:08] <Mena> no from switch
[09:08] <bartene> when a package (like firefox) is frezed how to close it ????????
[09:08] <darryl_> Mena:: if  your direct you need to unplug the router first
[09:08] <chemicalvamp> on the share?
[09:09] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: on whatever is giving you the permission error
[09:09] <Mena> bartene, ctrl+Esc
[09:09] <pollyo> bartene: run xkill and click on the window for firefox.
[09:09] <Mena> darryl_, not direct
[09:09] <darryl_> Mena: paste your newtork settings for the card
[09:10] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: What are you attempting to do?
[09:10] <Mena> darryl_, ? sorry didnt get you
[09:10] <darryl_> pollyo: I think he is tryign to do 2 things
[09:10] <darryl_> Mena: paste the settings you have for your network card
[09:10] <darryl_> so i can see them
[09:11] <Mena> darryl_, etho
[09:11] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, im in konqueror /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp tryed to make a new folder to store what i need and i get Access denied to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/New Folder
[09:11] <darryl_> chemicavamp: ls -la /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: If that isn't a typo, you are a missing a space there...
[09:12] <Mena> darryl_, you mean the IP and this Things
[09:12] <darryl_> Mena: YES everything!!!
[09:13] <Mena> darryl_, Why i use them on Xp and they works :)
[09:13] <Mena> every thiing
[09:13] <darryl_> Mena: in this case you force me to say use XP
[09:13] <Mena> hmmm :(
[09:13] <darryl_> your not doing what i asked you to
[09:14] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, what will that do?
[09:14] <darryl_> chemicalvamp it will show me your permissions
[09:14] <chemicalvamp> i did sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store (to put the files i need inside of) but i still dont have permission to copy stuff to it
[09:15] <darryl_> im betting you need a simple chmod
[09:15] <darryl_> bleh im going to bed - no one listening tonight :s
[09:15] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Can't you simply mkdir /home/chemicalvamp/store
[09:15] <soon> Im trying to get a new bluetooth mouse running. When I start System settings / Bluetooth I get : DCOP error when calling services(0)
[09:16] <soon> What does that mean?
[09:16] <chemicalvamp> pollyo look up at the last thing i said
[09:16] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13632/
[09:17] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: type whoami
[09:17] <rubert> when i start x (startx) the kde desktop wll start automatic how to make X start non start kde ??????
[09:17] <chemicalvamp> i am ubuntu
[09:17] <darryl_> your username is ubuntu?
[09:17] <chemicalvamp> im running a desktop cd
[09:18] <darryl_> what folder are you getting denied on?
[09:18] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I do not understand why you are using /mnt/hda1/....
[09:18] <Tm_T> rubert: one ? is enough
[09:18] <chemicalvamp>  /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store
[09:18] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: i dont see that in your paste???
[09:18] <chemicalvamp> pollyo because im running off of a desktop cd
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi Hobbsee!
[09:19] <darryl_> oh
[09:19] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Ok.  Did you mount the directory from anyother machine?
[09:19] <rubert> what you mean one ??
[09:19] <darryl_> store???
[09:19] <manu_> hi
[09:19] <chemicalvamp> my recent fiest install does not have wireless internet configuration.. so i have no internet and no way to install the needed packages
[09:19] <darryl_> in this case sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu store
[09:19] <Mena> darryl_They are (IP : 192.168.16.32 , subnet mask : 255.255.255.0 , Defult Gateway: 192.168.16.1Physical Address: 00-15-F2-6B-CB-27
[09:19] <Mena> IP Address: 192.168.16.32
[09:19] <Mena> Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
[09:19] <Mena> Default Gateway: 192.168.16.1 ,DNS Servers: 213.131.65.20, 213.131.66.246
[09:19] <Mena>  )
[09:19] <chemicalvamp>  /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store is my fiesty install
[09:20] <manu_> yesterday i wanted to shut down my system (kubuntu edgy), but then it stopped with the message "file system is not clean", i had to push the on/off button
[09:20] <manu_> is this bad?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> hey MilhousePunkRock!
[09:20] <manu_> now  i've bootet the system and all seems to be normally
[09:20] <Mirrakor> manu_: well it doesn't make your filesystem cleaner ;) run fsck
[09:20] <manu_> what should i do?
[09:20] <rubert> Tm_T what you mean one ??
[09:20] <Mena> darryl_, SO
[09:21] <darryl_> Mena: was that from ifconfig?
[09:21] <Mena> no
[09:21] <manu_> Mirrakor: what can be the reason? i had 2 times hard freezers and had to put my pc aout via button (because of a webcam)
[09:21] <chemicalvamp> Mena, wow you ip is very similar to mine
[09:21] <manu_> Mirrakor: can i run fsck with my root filesystem, or have i to boot another linux
[09:21] <Mena> heheh ok :)
[09:22] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: They are local network addresses.
[09:22] <rubert> when i start x (startx) the kde desktop wll start automatic how to make X start non start kde ??????
[09:22] <Mena> darryl_, So
[09:23] <chemicalvamp> oh hehe, i was gonna say.. mines acomplete match, except one key is +6
[09:23] <Mirrakor> manu_: that could be the reason - The thing is Linux doesn't write everything immediatly, it uses a harddisk cache, where it can buffers write proccesses and write them down, when it has the time and capacety. When you have a hard freeze not everything is writen to hdd, which makes it "unclean"
[09:23] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: How did you mount /mnt/hda1/... ?
[09:23] <Mirrakor> manu_: the disks should be unmounted when you run fsck
[09:23] <Mirrakor> so, gotta go now (work :( ) cu later
[09:23] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Could it be you mounted read onliny?
[09:23] <chemicalvamp> sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[09:23] <pollyo> only.
[09:23] <manu_> Mirrakor: one minute plz
[09:23] <Tm_T> rubert: I mean don't do '?????'
[09:23] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: the question was how did you MOUNT
[09:23] <chemicalvamp> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:24] <darryl_> ok thats better
[09:24] <rubert> Tm_T i have gnome and kde !!!!
[09:24] <chemicalvamp> yeah its  2 part thing.. needed to do both
[09:24] <manu_> Mirrakor: so a unclean system is bad? because of the unwritten things? what could have been lost?
[09:24] <darryl_> chemicalvamp and your gettin access denied?
[09:24] <Mena> darryl_, i tried the ifconfig  on terminal but ist unkwon command
[09:24] <Mena> its*
[09:24] <Tm_T> rubert: yes, but don't write multiple question marks
[09:25] <Tm_T> rubert: one is enough :)
[09:25] <darryl_> Mena: you need to specify the full path
[09:25] <rubert> Tm_T ok
[09:25] <Tm_T> rubert: thanks :)
[09:25] <darryl_> Mena: /sbin/ifconfig
[09:25] <chemicalvamp> access denied, could not write to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store/text file
[09:25] <Mena> okay then
[09:26] <manu_> so a unclean system is bad? because of the unwritten things? what could have been lost?
[09:26] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: i need to see the permissions for the mount
[09:26] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Would it make a difference if you did sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/dha1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[09:26] <Mena> ok i will try BRB
[09:26] <pollyo> wait... typo
[09:26] <darryl_> pollyo: his issue is permissions
[09:26] <chemicalvamp> pollyo lol i dont know... would it? (im not being sarcastic eiter)
[09:26] <darryl_> pollyo: if he had error mounting it would not give acccess denied
[09:27] <darryl_> his issue is permissions
[09:27] <chemicalvamp> it is currently mounted
[09:27] <darryl_> yes thats my point
[09:27] <pollyo> darryl_: Would it say if he only have read access?
[09:27] <darryl_> your issue is permissions
[09:27] <pollyo> darryl_: I thought it was a permssion problem read only...
[09:27] <darryl_> ppollyo: yea his mount is fine
[09:27] <pollyo> darryl_:Ok
[09:27] <chemicalvamp> what if i did a sudo move
[09:27] <darryl_> he just has permssion issue now
[09:27] <rubert> Tm_T you joke and tell me to do stupid things sure you dont know how to do this
[09:28] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: dont get off topic
[09:28] <darryl_> you need to correct your permssions
[09:28] <chemicalvamp> it may be a shortcut, but if you got an idea.. im down
[09:28] <pollyo> darryl_: Even with the sudo he has permissions?  If it was mounted read only sudo still would not allow him to create a directory....
[09:28] <darryl_> im still waiting to see the permissions on your mount
[09:29] <chemicalvamp> oh.. how do i get that for you?
[09:29] <darryl_> pollyo: im still wiating for his ls -la
[09:29] <chemicalvamp> was this it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13632/ i sent this before
[09:30] <darryl_> yep and your question was on the "store" folder right?
[09:30] <chemicalvamp> yes i had to do sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store to get that
[09:30] <chemicalvamp> made *
[09:31] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: did you do the chown command I told you to??????
[09:31] <chemicalvamp> no i must have missed it
[09:31] <darryl_> well....
[09:31] <darryl_> you said your whoami is ubuntu correct?
[09:31] <chemicalvamp> yes
[09:31] <darryl_> so...........
[09:32] <darryl_> sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu store
[09:33] <chemicalvamp> ok i successfully made a text doc in store, but now will i be able to modifie /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store when i log into fiesty?
[09:33] <chemicalvamp> or even read only
[09:34] <pollyo> How does that paste website work?
[09:35] <pollyo> nevermind.  I see.
[09:35] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: so did it work what i told you?
[09:35] <nonuda_> in my xubuntu system, in desktop setting, theres no others resolution setting i can choose, i see only "default", why? and i believe the default resolution is 480x640, i want to change it into 800x600
[09:36] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ yes i can add files, but will i be able to use this folder when i run fiesty (username=chemicalvamp)
[09:37] <darryl_> one step at a time
[09:37] <pollyo> nonuda_: I noticed that my monitor was not recognized correctly and I was unable to select higher res screens.
[09:37] <chemicalvamp> ok then
[09:37] <darryl_> before you could make NO files right???????????
[09:37] <chemicalvamp> yes sir
[09:37] <darryl_> and now you can
[09:37] <pollyo> nonuda_: You might want to check your video card and monitor settings.
[09:37] <chemicalvamp> yes
[09:37] <darryl_> so the lesson here is PERMSISSON PERMSSIONS PERMISSIONS
[09:37] <darryl_> in otherwords.........
[09:37] <darryl_> on your other installl......
[09:38] <darryl_> if your not ubuntu:ubuntu
[09:38] <darryl_> you will need to chmod to the user that you are to access the files
[09:38] <darryl_> or
[09:38] <darryl_> you need to make a ubuntu user on the other system
[09:38] <darryl_> make sense???
[09:39] <chemicalvamp> in ubuntu:ubuntu (one is the user and the other is the computer correct?)
[09:39] <darryl_> no
[09:39] <darryl_> user:group
[09:39] <Mena> darryl_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13635/
[09:39] <chemicalvamp> k
[09:39] <Mena> Hope this helps
[09:39] <darryl_> so you good now?
[09:40] <chemicalvamp> now i need a good wireless config package (wlassistant would work)
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> how can I check if I am running Java SDK
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i may not be
[09:40] <darryl_> ok i solved one problem thats all you get from me for tonight
[09:41] <Mena> darryl_, So
[09:41] <darryl_> Mena: So what????????????
[09:42] <Mena> darryl_, I give the pastebin what is wrong : :|
[09:42] <nonuda_> ok, i believe that would be the problem, but in xubuntu i cant find the setting for my vga and monitor
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> got it nvm
[09:42] <Mena> heee??
[09:42] <pollyo> nonuda_: Click K and then System Settings
[09:43] <darryl_> Mena: i dont know what your question is
[09:43] <Mena> i was user who was here befor
[09:43] <Mena> the user*
[09:43] <cptcarrot> hello
[09:43] <Mena> sence a few minutes
[09:43] <Mena> since*
[09:43] <pollyo> nonuda_: Then look at Computer Administration and click Monitor and Display
[09:43] <darryl_> Mena: im doing about 30 things right now - be more specific
[09:44] <Mena> cant conect to Internet with linux
[09:44] <darryl_> i see you pasted some network settings
[09:44] <darryl_> oh yea i remembe ryou now
[09:44] <pollyo> nonuda_: Then click hardware tab.
[09:44] <darryl_> your not getting an IP right?
[09:44] <cptcarrot> anyone here use pidentd?
[09:44] <Mena> darryl_, Thanks GOD
[09:44] <Mena> yes
[09:45] <Mena> and this why ...then you told to check ifconfig
[09:45] <Mena> me*(
[09:45] <darryl_> can you check your /etc/resolve.conf
[09:45] <darryl_> tell me what you see in there
[09:45] <Mena> ehh i will reboot agian
[09:45] <pollyo> darryl_: How long have you been using linux?
[09:45] <darryl_> why?
[09:45] <Mena> i am onXp
[09:45] <darryl_> you dont need to reboot
[09:45] <darryl_> oh
[09:45] <cptcarrot> i am having trouble getting pidentd working - previously under mandriva and now under kubuntu
[09:45] <darryl_> pollyo: not long enuf hehehe
[09:46] <pollyo> Mena: Was the internet working for you just now in XP?
[09:46] <pollyo> Did Mena already leave?
[09:46] <darryl_> pollyo: my guess is thats where he was talking to us from
[09:46] <Mena> no all the times
[09:46] <nonuda_> thee no system setting, i'm using xubuntu, its xfce desktop environment, seem looks loke gnome
[09:46] <pollyo> Good point...
[09:46] <darryl_> pollyo: my bet is his resolv.conf
[09:46] <Mena> yes o logged out then i came agian and here i am
[09:46] <Mena> i*
[09:47] <pollyo> But if Mena is in Ubuntu then how will he chat with us without a network?
[09:47] <darryl_> he is not pointed to his gateway
[09:47] <Mena> heeeeee i m XP
[09:47] <chemicalvamp> *same problem i have!
[09:47] <darryl_> BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:47] <darryl_> chemicalvamp:?????????????????? what??????????
[09:48] <darryl_> i just helped you fix your issue
[09:48] <Mena> darryl_, ok so you need the resolve.cnofig to fix the Gateway
[09:48] <Mena> Yes
[09:48] <Mena> ?
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> How come I don't have any sound, the modules are loaded, kmixer is working and master is not muted in alsaconfig?
[09:48] <darryl_> Mena: show me what you ahve in there
[09:48] <Mena> Okay BRB i will ogg out now :)
[09:48] <Mena> logg*
[09:48] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, the reason i have been doing all this permissions stuff is so i cant get the packages i need to set up my wireless connection to put in my dhcp, dns, and gateway
[09:48] <Mena> what ever
[09:49] <darryl_> chemcialvamp: ok so you have the access now
[09:49] <darryl_> so google the rest??????????
[09:51] <cptcarrot> can anyone assist me in getting identd working?
[09:52] <darryl_> if Mena dont get back soon im out for th enight
[09:52] <darryl_> late here
[09:52] <darryl_> 4:00am
[09:52] <cptcarrot> ugh great, adept won't even run now
[09:53] <pollyo> darryl_: Yes it is late...
[09:53] <pollyo> darry_: Or should we be saying early?
[09:53] <darryl_> pollyo: same timezone?
[09:53] <pollyo> darryl_: Yes
[09:53] <darryl_> yea that too
[09:54] <David_> Hi, I have libmad0 installed but k3b doesn't work to decode mp3s. I have 7.04beta.
[09:54] <darryl_> some times i get over generous and stay late to help on various channels where i can
[09:54] <pollyo> darryl_: I see you are very helpful.
[09:54] <pollyo> darryl_: I'm 3 weeks into Linux.
[09:54] <darryl_> i been here asking questions too
[09:54] <darryl_> i like this community
[09:55] <pollyo> darryl_: It is very friendly.
[09:55] <darryl_> thats why I like it
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> IMHO the community has been much better before edgy...
[09:55] <darryl_> its also the reason this community does not need MicroCRAP :)
[09:55] <chemicalvamp> anybody have a favorite wireless utility?
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You would not want to hear that, but I like Feisty's network manager a lot
[09:56] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: How have things changed?
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Besides that: cli
[09:56] <darryl_> MillhousePunkRock: your nick is way too long :p
[09:57] <pollyo> darryl_: Are you typing out the entire name?
[09:57] <darryl_> and yes im with pollyo: what changed so much?
[09:57] <darryl_> polllyo: yea im anit mouse
[09:57] <neonlinux> hey all
[09:57] <darryl_> anti
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: To me it seems there are more questions than answers here by now. And too many people just ask about beryl. maybe that scared away the regulars
[09:57] <darryl_> pollyo: how you doing it?
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> darryl_: Ever heard of tab completion?
[09:57] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock ide love to use network manager but it doesnt wanna work
[09:57] <pollyo> darryl_: I'm spoiled with typing tab to autocomplete the name.  Works in Gaim...
[09:57] <darryl_> hahahah
[09:58] <darryl_> tab is too far for my finger LOL
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: If things are wrong under the the hood, it wont work, yes...
[09:58] <neonlinux> does anyone know when feisty will be released?? is there a date?
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> neonlinux: April 19th most likely
[09:58] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: It does seem like alot of people are interested in Berly recently.
[09:58] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: that just means the community is growing
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe few days off though
[09:58] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock if the problem is "under the hood" why did i never have any problems with edgy?
[09:59] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: also - it depends what time of day / night the questions are being asked
[09:59] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: also depens if people are in the mood to answer the questions
[09:59] <neonlinux> Admiral_Chicago: cool.. thanks.. ill have the holidays to install it :) ... i hope in the release the problem im having will be fixed
[09:59] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Wonder if it has anything to do with all the beryl videos on YouTube.
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: No offense, since this may includes you
[09:59] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock:  No offense taken.
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Damn, backspace and return are too close here...
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I wasnt done typing
[10:00] <darryl_> even still
[10:00] <darryl_> worse case
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: No offense, since this may include you as well, but I really dislike people that "try" linux because they want to check out beryl...
[10:00] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I am interested in Beryl... Though it was after I got just about everything I was really interested in working.
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> neonlinux: i hope so too. gotta run now
[10:00] <darryl_> the support here is so much better than paid M$ support
[10:00] <ffffu> are there any viruses that will infect linux?
[10:00] <neonlinux> Admiral_Chicago: ok.. thanks.. bye
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> ffffu: no
[10:01] <darryl_> ffffu: yes TONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: AFAIK, no
[10:01] <darryl_> too many to imagine :p :p :p
[10:01] <darryl_> break out the Norton :P
[10:01] <ffffu> what about trojan scripts etc?
[10:01] <pollyo> ffffu: Don't run them as root.
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> The only reason that AV programs for Linux exist is that Linux servers are often used in Windows networks...
[10:01] <darryl_> ffffu: not really bud
[10:02] <neonlinux> ffffu: only if you want them too... im not sure wine is compatible with virus's though... has anyone ever tried using wine on a virus?
[10:02] <ffffu> ok cool.. so i'm on kuunbtu now..no need virus scanner?
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> neonlinux: lol, nice thought.. it would only damage wine though, i guess
[10:02] <ffffu> haha
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: no
[10:02] <darryl_> ffffu: no correct
[10:02] <darryl_> you dont need
[10:02] <pollyo> I read an article on a virus for linux.
[10:02] <darryl_> unless you allow a .sh to rm -rf * heheheheh
[10:03] <pollyo> Though they were discussing the debate over what a virus really was.
[10:03] <ffffu> one question..are there viruses or harmful scripts written to harm linux?
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: That was probably a proof of concept...
[10:03] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Yes.
[10:03] <darryl_> ffffu: it was  prolly written my Microsoft :p
[10:03] <neonlinux> MilhousePunkRock: wine wont truly be a complete windows api implementation until it can run all windows features lol
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: They would hardly work if you do the right thing and keep root usage to the absolute minimum
[10:04] <chemicalvamp> does anybody know of any other wireless apps other then wlassistant / networkmanager
[10:04] <darryl_> neonlinux: yea and now with vista crap out it will be even longer before "full" API implemntation
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> neonlinux: Waiting for bluescreens or what "features" do you refer to?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: wifi radar
[10:04] <ffffu> so i have no problems surfing any websites, no fear of getting spyware or adware or whatever?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You never told me about your encryption though, or the chipset
[10:05] <darryl_> ffffu: correct to some extent
[10:05] <darryl_> dont make that your rule for life
[10:05] <neonlinux> MilhousePunkRock: i was thinking that aside from bsod's those nice popups that lag my net connection are sooo helpful in bringing me relevent advertising information...
[10:05] <darryl_> but your safer than on M$ crap
[10:05] <pollyo> ffffu: You may notice some difficulties with websites.
[10:05] <cypher1> how do i enable remote X tcp connections in KDE (Kubuntu)
[10:05] <ffffu> ok just want to know if i'm safe from all harm
[10:05] <ffffu> hehe
[10:05] <darryl_> ffffu: your NOT
[10:06] <darryl_> yoru as secure as you make yoruself
[10:06] <pollyo> ffffu: From ALL harm?
[10:06] <sh4rk0> bonjour
[10:06] <darryl_> dont get over confident
[10:06] <sh4rk0> y a t il des franais here ??
[10:06] <darryl_> sh4rk0: comon sava???????????
[10:06] <sh4rk0> hello
[10:06] <neonlinux> ffffu: if you ever see "sudo rm -f /" anywhere... dont run it
[10:06] <sh4rk0> salut darryl
[10:06] <pollyo> I need protection from myself.  I wiped out a partition when I first went to make a dual boot system. <grin>
[10:06] <sh4rk0> tres bien merci et toi ?
[10:06] <darryl_> bien merci
[10:06] <ffffu> i saw somebody logging in by ssh (i checked the auth.log) in as guest..and i checked the .bashhistory.. he's running some "fuck" something
[10:07] <ffffu> i don't know what's he doing..after that i delete the guest account
[10:07] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock i beive i have a broadcom chipset
[10:07] <darryl_> ffffu: LOL LOL
[10:07] <sh4rk0> dit moi tu connais bien ce system d exploitation ? Je suis un news et je ne sais comment installer wine
[10:07] <Tm_T> !fr | sh4rk0
[10:07] <ubotu> sh4rk0: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:07] <darryl_> sh4rk0: use vmware :)
[10:08] <sh4rk0> kubuntu
[10:08] <chemicalvamp> vmware is sick looking
[10:08] <Tm_T> sh4rk0: english here thanks
[10:08] <darryl_> vmware is nice
[10:08] <chemicalvamp> im going to get it after i sort this stuff out
[10:08] <sh4rk0> ok, thanks
[10:08] <pollyo> Does vmware run faster then kvm at this point?
[10:09] <darryl_> pollyo: i use it remote
[10:09] <darryl_> so  in otherwords I remote dekstop into it
[10:09] <darryl_> and its fast
[10:09] <darryl_> really fast
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Were you smart enough to back up your /etc/network/interfaces before the upgrade?
[10:10] <pollyo> I was thinking about setting up a VM on my other machine when I put kubuntu on it.  I was looking at how you can run windows while you have kubuntu running.
[10:10] <chemicalvamp> i could get a working one right now
[10:10] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: thats just evil :p
[10:10] <darryl_> pollyo: i have that running right now just for Outlook
[10:11] <ffffu> !virus
[10:11] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:11] <pollyo> darryl_: Are you using VMware or KVM?
[10:11] <darryl_> pollyo: vmware
[10:11] <darryl_> works very well
[10:12] <darryl_> and i remote the winBLOWS install
[10:12] <neonlinux> anyone had experience with ati and feisty?
[10:12] <pollyo> darryl_: I have to find out if kvm allows windows to see the hardware.
[10:12] <darryl_> and only for Outlook
[10:12] <darryl_> neonlinux: yes i did that earlier tonight
[10:12] <pollyo> darryl_: I want to find out if I will be able to connect external hardware that linux can not recognize and use it with windows running through virtualization.
[10:12] <darryl_> neonlinux: whats your issue?
[10:13] <darryl_> pollyo: so far i been successful with that
[10:13] <pollyo> darryl_: Great
[10:13] <Mena> darryl_,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13641/
[10:13] <darryl_> Mena: took you long enough :p
[10:13] <pollyo> Dell is saying that it will sell desktops with linux on them.
[10:13] <Mena> darryl_,  Sorry
[10:13] <Mena> :)
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: What kind of hardware are you talking about?
[10:14] <sh4rk0> what has is useful wmware ?
[10:14] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I have a printer that prints great under windows but not so good from linux.
[10:14] <neonlinux> darryl: well... im running the alpha atm... herd 5.. it installs fine (has issues with wvdial.. but im not worried about that atm) and i can use it... but when i install the beta it hangs in initialising the gui
[10:14] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: That is the main thing that comes to mind.
[10:14] <Mena> darryl_, ohh i added the GateWay as DNs
[10:14] <sh4rk0> it is one server
[10:14] <Mena> darryl_, try to make it work
[10:14] <sh4rk0> ?
[10:14] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I also want to be able to connect something that might come out that has no support for linux at first.
[10:15] <Mena> darryl_, but befor with out the Gate IP it wasnt working
[10:15] <darryl_> Mena: ofcourse not
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: Why not just dual boot for that rare case?
[10:15] <Mena> darryl_, ok
[10:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I also have one or two applicatoins that I still use that are under windows.
[10:16] <Mena> darryl_, so is there soemthing wrong bec .... is there any file you want to open
[10:16] <darryl_> Mena: do this
[10:16] <darryl_> search local
[10:16] <darryl_> nameserver 192.168.16.1
[10:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I just want the option of not having to reboot unless I really need to do alot under windows.
[10:16] <darryl_> Mena: i assume your DNS is set by the gateway
[10:16] <Mena> darryl_, i guess i remove it
[10:16] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, im gonna go try this out, hopefully it works.. thanks alot for helping
[10:17] <Mena> darryl_, its a bout more 10 hours tho
[10:17] <Mena> and i am tring
[10:17] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: If windows wasn't such a pain I would have the VM boot from the windows partition.  I am still reading to find out if it is possible to do that or not.
[10:17] <Mena> :)
[10:17] <darryl_> most times when you cant connect your resolve.conf is to blame
[10:17] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Everything I have read said windows will see that as hardware changes and give you all types of difficulties.
[10:17] <Mena> darryl_, it wasnt withe just reolv.conf
[10:18] <darryl_> Mena: huh?
[10:18] <Mena> i couldnt find with resolve.conf
[10:18] <Mena> resolv.conf*
[10:18] <Mena> never mind
[10:18] <Mena> darryl_, after the command what to do
[10:19] <Mena> darryl_, or you must first know the result
[10:19] <darryl_> Mena: i dont know what your asking agin
[10:19] <darryl_> again
[10:19] <darryl_> and i need to go to bed so make your question VERY clear
[10:20] <Mena> darryl_, he after doing this search local ameserver 192.168.16.1
[10:20] <Mena> after*
[10:20] <ffffu> !bliss
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bliss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Mena> darryl_, Never mod ehhh i will try the command and give the result and i am on Xp
[10:21] <Mena> darryl_, mind*
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: Ignorance is bliss, knowledge is power... You choose...
[10:21] <darryl_> Mena: i give you one more try
[10:21] <Mena> darryl_, hee ??
[10:21] <darryl_> Mena: tell me CLEARLY what your issue is cuz i need to go to bed
[10:22] <Mena> darryl_, the problem with conecting on linux
[10:22] <darryl_> Mena: ask me a SPECIFIC CLEAR question or im out for the night
[10:22] <Mena> ohhh GOD
[10:22] <darryl_> Mena: i know that already
[10:22] <Mena> ok
[10:23] <ffffu> i choose power
[10:23] <Mena> you give this after i give the ersult from /etc/resolve.conf    search local nameserver 192.168.16.1
[10:23] <Mena> result*
[10:23] <darryl_> I need a beer or a pillow
[10:23] <darryl_> Mena: yes thats what I have
[10:24] <Black_Cat> darryl: why beer, not coffee? :)
[10:24] <ffffu> do mcafee write viruses?
[10:24] <darryl_> Back_Cat: coffe is for thos that have slept already
[10:24] <darryl_> errr
[10:24] <darryl_> Black_Cat:
[10:24] <darryl_> sorry bout that
[10:24] <Mena> darryl_, brb plz wait tell this plz ok or if you cant never mind :)
[10:25] <pollyo> Black_Cat: The guy wants to go to bed not stay up all night/day..
[10:25] <Black_Cat> darryl: about what? :))
[10:25] <Mena> tell me now if you cant stay with this pro
[10:25] <darryl_> Mena: you need to reboot again??????
[10:25] <Mena> yeeeeees
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> darryl_: What IRC client do you use?
[10:25] <darryl_> Black_Cat:  bout the typo on your name
[10:25] <Mena> So
[10:25] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: depends on the day hehe
[10:25] <Black_Cat> pollyo: why drinking beer than... it will lead to toilet not to bed :)
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> right now
[10:26] <pollyo> Mena: They have an application that lets you see your linux files from windows.
[10:26] <Black_Cat> darryl: nevermind, funny even :)
[10:26] <Mena> okay
[10:26] <darryl_> Black_Cat: LOL
[10:26] <pollyo> mena: You will not have to keep rebooting to look at the config files.
[10:26] <Mena> i have the apps and i mounted it
[10:26] <Mena> okay
[10:26] <Mena> give me the name
[10:26] <Mena> but he is telling me to search local
[10:26] <darryl_> Mena: I would love to help you out bud - but your consant need to reboot is too much
[10:27] <darryl_> its 4:30 am for me here
[10:27] <darryl_> I help you as much as i can
[10:27] <pollyo> Mena: What version of kubuntu are you working with?
[10:27] <darryl_> but your setup makes it very difficult
[10:27] <Mena> and its 10:28 here and i didnt sleep since 8:0 pm
[10:27] <darryl_> pollyo: your on more beer than me :p
[10:27] <Mena> fiesty
[10:27] <pollyo> darryl_: I'm drinking warm milk right now. <grin>
[10:28] <Mena> there is no help on fiesty channel
[10:28] <darryl_> ekkkkkkkkkk
[10:28] <pollyo> darrl_: If this doesn't make me tired I'm going to have to take a sleeping pill.
[10:28] <darryl_> Mena: becase its ubuntu
[10:28] <darryl_> pollyo: im gonna need a wakeup pill soon hahaha
[10:28] <pollyo> lol
[10:28] <Mena> no they offer there also help for kubuntu but thre is no help
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> darryl_: No... Besides the desktop enviroment all *untus are the same
[10:28] <Mena> in any way
[10:29] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: yep yep
[10:29] <pollyo> Mena: Yes you have to go to #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[10:29] <Mena> no help there ehhh :(
[10:29] <Mena> In any way Never mind derrrtl_
[10:29] <pollyo> Mena: Did you say at one point your network connection was working under feisty?
[10:29] <Mena> SOrry derryl_
[10:29] <Mena> its was working
[10:30] <darryl_> Mena: try again :P
[10:30] <Mena> darryl_
[10:30] <Mena> Sorry :)
[10:30] <darryl_> there you go!
[10:30] <pollyo> Mena: It was working and did you do any type of update to feisty?
[10:30] <Black_Cat> 3rd time is a charm ;)
[10:30] <darryl_> hahaha
[10:30] <Mena> no
[10:30] <darryl_> and i didnt even get my own name
[10:30] <darryl_> there is another darrly here
[10:30] <darryl_> go figure
[10:30] <Mena> i just chnged the ip
[10:31] <darryl_> LOL cant even spell my own name
[10:31] <pollyo> Mena: Your router assigned you a different IP address for your local network?
[10:31] <Mena> i guess i made an update but after this i aksed the router if the Conection is working he told me not so
[10:31] <Black_Cat> darryl: go to sleep... go to sleep... ;)
[10:31] <Mena> yes
[10:31] <darryl_> hahaha
[10:31] <darryl_> good plan
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Are you using DHCP or static IP?
[10:31] <darryl_> you guys been a blast
[10:31] <Mena> DHCP
[10:32] <darryl_> take care folks hope to see you all again soon!!!!
[10:32] <pollyo> darryl_: Go get some rest...
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Sleep well darryl_
[10:32] <Mena> i really thanks you darryl_ For helpping me :)
[10:32] <darryl_> thanks :) :)
[10:32] <pollyo> darryl: I'm out of here in 15 mins as well.
[10:32] <darryl_> Mena: your welcome bud - good luck
[10:32] <darryl_> cheers!!! im out folks!
[10:32] <Mena> To you too
[10:33] <pollyo> Mena: When you are at your desktop in KDE does that little icon sit there and turn?
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: So basically all you need to do in Feisty is click on the network manager icon and connect...
[10:33] <Mena> yes
[10:33] <pollyo> Mena: If you click on it then you can have it re-establish your IP information.
[10:33] <pollyo> Mena: I have to do that from time to time.
[10:33] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, i already enabled the conection
[10:34] <Mena> pollyo, hey i did many times  ;)
[10:34] <pollyo> Mena: It cycled through the information about getting IP address and what not?
[10:35] <Mena> pollyo, its checking the ip and the says device actvated
[10:35] <Black_Cat> is it any way to prevent Korganizer from launching in tray when i start Kontact?
[10:37] <pollyo> Mena: When I right click it I can then click on wireless network and watch it go out and get an ipaddress... It cylces through a few steps.
[10:37] <pollyo> Mena: I noticed that it doesn't alway automatically work when I boot up.
[10:38] <pollyo> Mena: Is it much different for a wired connection?
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: IIRC that can be set in the options though
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Go and check the options if they are set for DHCP
[10:39] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, yes its
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, i configure the ip my self
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, i am sure
[10:40] <Mena> its not static
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: If you do that, it is NOT DHCP
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, he?
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok and this called
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> DHCP means that you get an IP assigned from your router
[10:41] <Mena> Sorry i realy didnt sleep since yester day
[10:41] <chemicalvamp> FAILED.. booo
[10:41] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok
[10:41] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, now what is the problem
[10:41] <Mena> pollyo, no i dont think so
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Make up your mind: DHCP or configuring the IP yourself
[10:42] <ubuntu> !fr
[10:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:42] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, First the router gives the ip
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: If you are on a DHCP network, setting an IP yourself won't work
[10:42] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, then i changed it thats all
[10:42] <Black_Cat> !lamp
[10:42] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:42] <Mena> So
[10:42] <Mena> its DHCP right
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: You cannot change the IP yourself on a DCHP network
[10:43] <Mena> in any way the main thing router give me an ip then i change mine according to it
[10:43] <Mena> ok
[10:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Of course you can, client-sided, but that disconnects you. Look where you are now. Turn DHCP back on and you will be online again
[10:43] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ the only package i installed that worked (no missing dependancies) was wlassistant, when i started it.. it never poped up. when i ran it with command line it said "no useable network devices"
[10:43] <luke> does anyone know of a channel for Baghira?
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, you mean to trun it from manual
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, to auto
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, or what
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, Sorry :(
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Yes
[10:44] <Mena> if i tried
[10:44] <Mena> sorry
[10:44] <Mena> i tried befor
[10:45] <Mena> nothing happened
[10:45] <chemicalvamp> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up (failed it could not detect my card)
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: All the other info about gateway and DNS and such is provided by DHCP
[10:45] <pollyo> Mena: Configure Device TCP/IP Auto  DHCP and Activate when computer starts.
[10:45] <Mena> pollyo, its makrked
[10:45] <Mena> marked*
[10:45] <pollyo> Mena: Is this one computer?
[10:45] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, yes
[10:46] <pollyo> Mena: Or do you have two machines there?
[10:46] <Mena> pollyo, no one
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> how are you here then?
[10:46] <Mena> pollyo, but i remeber my setting !
[10:46] <Mena> on Xp
[10:46] <Mena> i hace To OS
[10:46] <Mena> to>>>2 :)
[10:46] <Mena> So
[10:46] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, can you make any sense of this?
[10:46] <Mena> i was telling you all befor i am on Xp
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Did you check if the card maybe got renamed?
[10:47] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Does your computer also have a wired port?
[10:47] <chemicalvamp> pollyo be more specific
[10:47] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock it isnt beng shown in ifconfig at all
[10:47] <Mena> and i have already linux
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Go to network enviroment and all connections and tell me what you see in the lower right of that window when you hover over your ethernet card
[10:47] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: A standard network card (not wifi)
[10:48] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo, chemicalvamp: What we call "ethernet" card... ;-)
[10:48] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Thank you.
[10:48] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, establisid
[10:48] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, as i remeber
[10:49] <Mena> from last time
[10:49] <chemicalvamp> pollyo you think my wlan0 is being turned into eth0?
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: In the lower left, sorry
[10:49] <Mena> and evert time
[10:49] <Mena> ok
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No
[10:49] <Mena> every*
[10:49] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock then what could it be?
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: There must be something about the IP.
[10:49] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, and i also installed KNemo
[10:49] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I was thinking that if you are in need of additional packages you could connect using your eth0 for now until you get the packages you need to get the other card working.
[10:49] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, which show me much inf
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: I am referring to Windows right now
[10:50] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock,  i dont know but i tried the live CD with same setting and its working
[10:50] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I did that on another computer my wireless card would not work so I connected with the wired eth0.
[10:50] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: pollyo has a good point there
[10:50] <Mena> so maybe its from the Fiesty its self
[10:51] <chemicalvamp> pollyo yeah i already thought of that, i just thought i could get them here
[10:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: If you messed with the settings, it sure won't work. Boot back into Feisty and turn DHCP back on!
[10:51] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I've been on for a few hours tonight and it looks like it has turned into a bigger project for you.
[10:52] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I would suggest at this point going with the eth0 for now if you have the connections close.
[10:52] <chemicalvamp> pollyo if you only knew... lol
[10:52] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Just an idea. <grin>
[10:52] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, this is what i did on the LiveCd i just turn it to manual and i add the inf like ip Gateway Dns, .....etc and then the conection worked ...ok           those are the saem i did on fiesty
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: If you can wire up your laptop, do so. Maybe something did not get installed properly... You could as well chroot into Feisty from a Live CD
[10:52] <pollyo> Mena: Do you have a live CD"?
[10:52] <Mena> YEs
[10:52] <pollyo> Mena: Boot with your Live CD and see if you can get here.
[10:53] <chemicalvamp> pollyo but i dont lol its campus internet
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: YOU DO NOT NEED TO ENTER ANYTHING THERE WHEN YOU USE DHCP!!!!!!!
[10:53] <pollyo> Mena: We can see if it is Feisty or your setup.
[10:53] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, unless your stealin it right?
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: So there for sure is some kind of encryption or authentification
[10:54] <Mena> pollyo, so if used the LiveCd i will not nedd to restart to use Fiesty bec the one i have its kubuntu
[10:54] <Mena> i mean no more restarts
[10:54] <Mena> !!!!!
[10:54] <Mena> edgy
[10:54] <Mena> edgy*
[10:54] <pollyo> Mena: The liveCD what version is that?
[10:54] <Mena> edgy
[10:54] <pollyo> Oh... Your live CD is edgy,,
[10:55] <pollyo> You updated to feisty and it stopped?
[10:55] <chemicalvamp> Mena are you trying to get your wireless to work on edgy?
[10:55] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok i will try your point again and we will see
[10:55] <Mena> no fiesty
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, he is trying a wired network
[10:55] <chemicalvamp> oh
[10:55] <Mena> BRB and here i am leaving the room
[10:55] <Mena> ok
[10:55] <pollyo> Mena: Are you saying that you initially installed the LiveCD of Edgy and then after you upgraded to Feisty it stopped working?
[10:56] <Mena> pollyo, no
[10:56] <Mena> pollyo, i normaly upgraded to fiesty
[10:56] <pollyo> Mena: How do you come to have the Edgy liveCD and Feisty on your system?
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Boot into your installed Feisty and enable DHCP
[10:56] <Mena> pollyo, and every thing wa s fine
[10:56] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok
[10:57] <pollyo> Mena: I see.  So you upgraded to Feisty and it was working for quite some time?  Did you reboot after you upgraded to feisty and the network was working?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What about chrooting into your feisty now
[10:57] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ohh by the way i installed guarddog but i didnt change any thing and i remove it but after this the conection was working as i remeber so ...no no its not the reason
[10:57] <chemicalvamp> when i went from windows to desktop cd to try it. wlassistant wouldnt auto connect to my network, so i had to go into windows and write down my IP,subnet,gateway,dhcp,dns and manualy enter it into wlassistant, maybe something similar would help you mena
[10:57] <Mena> pollyo, yes
[10:57] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, explain?
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, he is using DHCP, but he changed stuff there. I believe his problem is hand mase
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> made*
[10:58] <Mena> chemicalvamp, i already did
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You already created a folder and mounted /dev/hda1 to it, IIRC, yes?
[10:58] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, okay Brb
[10:58] <chemicalvamp> i c.. maybe we're in the same boat mena
[10:58] <Mena> any more thing
[10:59] <Mena> things*
[10:59] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock yes
[10:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Reactivate DHCP and and leave everything as is, that should be it
[10:59] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Is there a there a dpkg reconfig to reset network settings?
[11:00] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: To the original?
[11:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, are you saying i could try upgrading my fiesty install using this desktop cd? o.0
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: So basically now you would open a console and chroot into your installed feisty
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, i like that idea
[11:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock continue :)
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> But I need some assistance from a more experienced user to achieve a clean chroot
[11:01] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I did that when my initial update to Feisty failed, or rather I made it fail
[11:01] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock what does it involve me doing? and is there like a wiki for it or something?
[11:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I think you would have to mount /dev and /proc too, but I am not really sure.. So I would want one of the gurus to step in here
[11:02] <chemicalvamp> do we have some gurus?
[11:02] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, basically it's just one command, but I am sure the way I did it is not 100% proper...
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !chroot
[11:03] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:03] <chemicalvamp> stdin is kinda like a guru :) HI!
[11:04] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock are we doing a fiesty or edgy chroot?
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Good question, I would say Feisty, as you CHange the ROOT from edgy to feisty
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Thanks, but I am unsure if we need that debootstrap thing
[11:06] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock woah, wich one.. i run amd64, heres the link http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/
[11:06] <Black_Cat> aren't there wmv/asf codecs for kubuntu?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: you do
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I succeeded without that, but as I said, I am pretty sure that was kinda unclean
[11:07] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: are you just trying to upgrade to feisty?
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: He is trying to get his wireless back up in Feisty, from an Edgy LiveCD.
[11:07] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: you can test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[11:07] <Hobbsee> ahh
[11:07] <Hobbsee> hang on a sec then
[11:07] <Hobbsee> how do you plan to get the wireless back up?
[11:08] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee nope, i got fiesty, trying to get it upgraded (hoping it will fix my internet) im running live cd of edgy
[11:08] <chemicalvamp> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade BLOWS! it fubared my last install
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: For now, chroot into Feisty and checking if there is a update missing
[11:08] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: run "sudo chroot /mnt/feisty su"
[11:09] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do i need to install the package on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/?
[11:09] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: no
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Like I said... :-D
[11:09] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: heh.  i didnt understand what you were trying to do
[11:09] <chemicalvamp> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/feisty: No such file or directory
[11:09] <Hobbsee> but msot people dont need chroots, in normal situations
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: OK, that is probably not even there yet
[11:10] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: of course not.  wherever you've mounted the feisty partition.
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Unmount the first mount again
[11:10] <chemicalvamp> my hda1 is mounted to /mnt/hda1
[11:10] <Hobbsee> then use /mnt/hda1
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> fair enough, just replace that
[11:10] <Hobbsee> instead of /mnt/feisty
[11:10] <ravan> are kde packages in kubuntu compiled --without-arts ?
[11:10] <chemicalvamp> so sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su?
[11:10] <Hobbsee> ravan: dont think so, why?
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> ravan: Unlikely
[11:11] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: yes
[11:11] <Hobbsee> you'll probably have to install the package "chroot" first
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: No, edgy's live CD has that
[11:11] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee done
[11:11] <chemicalvamp> root@ubuntu:/#
[11:11] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You are inside your installed Feisty now in the Konsole window
[11:12] <Hobbsee> ie, execute update as normal
[11:12] <ravan> Hobbsee: i wanted to thinking of shifting to kubuntu and don't like using arts as alsa can server the purpose
[11:12] <chemicalvamp> ahh thats pimp
[11:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Does that mean I can leave now? ;-)
[11:12] <natsume_> i dont see any different between fiesty and dapper
[11:12] <natsume_> it still same,
[11:12] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: no.  :P
[11:12] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do i need to substitute anything? or exactly like you said?
[11:12] <MilhousePunkRock> ravan: Shift from where? Sounds like you use a meta distro now?!?! You usually don't compile stuff yourself in Kubuntu
[11:12] <Hobbsee> natsume_: it's not.  you've probably got your own config still there
[11:13] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: you dont need to substitute
[11:13] <natsume_> actually what is the different
[11:13] <chemicalvamp> failed, want me to !paste it?
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: Really? Kernel 5 steps newer, KDE newer, slighty different look, upstart instead of init
[11:13] <natsume_> ohh ya
[11:14] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: yes, pastebin please
[11:14] <natsume_> hahaha did notice it coz i'm just open my lappie then leave it
[11:14] <natsume_> after a while come back
[11:15] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee its biiig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13643/
[11:15] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: You will need to reboot though, kernels cant be changed in a running system yet
[11:15] <natsume_> MilhousePunkRock:
[11:15] <natsume_> i already upgrade to fiesty last 2 week ago
[11:15] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Yet...Is that something they are working on?
[11:16] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock,
[11:16] <natsume_> natsume@natsume:~$ uname -r
[11:16] <natsume_> 2.6.20-13-386
[11:16] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: From what I heard, yes
[11:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Great.
[11:16] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: That sounds like feisty to me
[11:16] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do i have to enable universe or multiverse for this? i havent run adept on the live cd this session
[11:16] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock,i swithced to it and it chosse's the right Ip
[11:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: WB. Did not work, I assume
[11:16] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, yes
[11:16] <Mena> didnt
[11:16] <Mena> :( :( :( :( :( :(
[11:17] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: no.  and you're using apt-get to update, not adept
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Maybe he needs to copy his resolv.conf over to the other enviroment?
[11:18] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ? what Can i Do mooooooooooooore :) ehehheheh ?
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: I am out of knowledge for now, sorry
[11:18] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: it'll still be using all the edgy live cd configs to connect to the internet.  shouldnt be needed
[11:18] <Mena> ok
[11:18] <Mena> no prob
[11:18] <Mena> Thanks for you help :)
[11:19] <chemicalvamp> Mena wish i could help, havent had that issue... yet
[11:19] <natsume_> seriously
[11:19] <Mena> chemicalvamp, ok no pro :)
[11:19] <natsume_> nothing different between fiesty and dapper (noob say) hehehehe
[11:20] <natsume_> the kde may be had a changes, but lil bit
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: That's because if you customized the look of KDE, it won't touch it. There are many changes "under the hood"
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Try to ping something in that chroot konsole... like google.com
[11:21] <chemicalvamp> ping: unknown host www.google.com
[11:21] <pollyo> can you boot a VM from a partition in QEMU?
[11:21] <chemicalvamp> root@ubuntu:/# ifconfig
[11:22] <chemicalvamp> Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.
[11:22] <Mena> pollyo, Thanks For help chemicalvamp, thanks for tring to help me thanks all )
[11:22] <Mena> :)
[11:22] <chemicalvamp> (wanted to see if my wlan0 was in there)
[11:22] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: That's what I meant with "unclean". I think you would have to mount /proc and /dev properly too
[11:23] <Hobbsee> pollyo: ask in #qemu
[11:23] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do you know how to do what MilhousePunkRock is proposing?
[11:24] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: not offhand, no, sorry
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Like suggested here, but no guarantees: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[11:25] <chemicalvamp> sudo chroot /mnt/hda1/proc su wouldnt work for proc?
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Leave the chroot again: "exit"
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> and mount the three folders like they say on the dist upgrade instruction
[11:26] <chemicalvamp> u mean close the cli?
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, type "exit"
[11:27] <chemicalvamp> mkay so i need to install kubuntu-desktop... the instructions on the bottom right?
[11:28] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, well, almost, just the three mount command, chemicalvamp
[11:28] <chemicalvamp> JUST the mount commands?
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes, according to your mount point, of course
[11:31] <natsume_> *sigh* i'm hate my teeth,
[11:31] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t none -o bind /tmp edgy/tmp ......mount: mount point edgy/tmp does not exist
[11:31] <chemicalvamp> i added the .......
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Didnt you say you mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1?
[11:32] <chemicalvamp> yes
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> so it would go to /mnt/hda1/tmp and /mnt/hda1/dev and /mnt/hda1/proc
[11:33] <chemicalvamp> show me an example.. mount -t none -o bind /tmp edgy/tmp
[11:33] <chemicalvamp> replace edgy?
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> mount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/hda1/tmp
[11:35] <chemicalvamp> done
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> for all three directories?
[11:35] <chemicalvamp> yup
[11:35] <pollyo> If I knew the boot from partition worked in qemu then I would have a neat idea.  You could have started a VM inside Edgy and have it boot from your harddrive it would then emulate a standard eth0 and you could update from within Feisty itself.
[11:36] <chemicalvamp> pollyo lol are you trying to confuse me?
[11:36] <pollyo> lol
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock>  /ignore pollyo
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> ;-)
[11:36] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, now what? apt-get?
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[11:36] <chemicalvamp> lol thats evil
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> chrooted again?
[11:37] <chemicalvamp> lemme find the command again
[11:37] <MilhousePunkRock> if not: sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su
[11:37] <chemicalvamp> now the apt-get command?
[11:37] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:38] <lotusleaf> I followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?
[11:38] <chemicalvamp> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:38] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:38] <chemicalvamp> didnt work
[11:38] <MilhousePunkRock> same resolve issue?
[11:38] <chemicalvamp> yeah
[11:39] <MilhousePunkRock> hmm
[11:39] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Let me try something
[11:40] <ffffu> what's the problem
[11:40] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13643/
[11:41] <chemicalvamp> ffffu, do you know what im trying to do?
[11:42] <ffffu> yeah..are you on the network?
[11:42] <ffffu> ifconfig
[11:42] <ffffu> or ping www.google.com
[11:43] <chemicalvamp> yes my wlan0 is showing, but ping www.google.com failed
[11:43] <ffffu> you using wireless ?
[11:43] <chemicalvamp> yes
[11:43] <ffffu> iwlist wlan0 scanning
[11:43] <ffffu> do u see anything
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> yes, the network im connected to
[11:44] <ffffu> haha u are not conencted yet
[11:44] <ffffu> but you see the network right..hmm what wireless card u using
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> okie
[11:44] <ffffu> lspci
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> oh god that command.. 1 sec
[11:44] <ffffu> do you find your wireless card's name in the list?
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> ive never seen it in tere
[11:45] <ffffu> its a pci wireless card right?
[11:45] <chemicalvamp> <--- laptop
[11:45] <chemicalvamp> so i dk
[11:45] <ffffu> okok nvmind
[11:46] <ffffu> you want manual way or gui way
[11:46] <ffffu> manual way to set up your network
[11:46] <ffffu> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[11:46] <chemicalvamp> my network needs to be manualy set up with wlassistant.. so manual i guess.. i have all the stuff i need to do it
[11:47] <ffffu> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces (nano easier to use)
[11:47] <ffffu> find the line auto wlan0
[11:47] <ffffu> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[11:47] <ffffu> put in "wireless-essid xxxxxxxx"
[11:47] <ffffu> and "wireless-key xxxxxxxx"
[11:48] <ffffu> essid is where u see in iwlist wlan0 scanning
[11:48] <ffffu> following so far?
[11:48] <chemicalvamp> so substitute the x's with what i find in the scanning ting?
[11:48] <ffffu> yes.. hey does the network have WEP key on ?
[11:49] <ffffu> if it does, you must get the key its in hexidecimal format or acsi
[11:49] <chemicalvamp> encryption key:off
[11:49] <ffffu> oh ok then don't need to put the line wireless-key xxxx
[11:49] <ffffu> just put wireless-essid
[11:49] <ffffu> xxx
[11:49] <ffffu> wireless-essid xxxx
[11:50] <ffffu> after that sudo ifdown wlan0
[11:50] <ffffu> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:50] <chemicalvamp> one sec, how do i add that first thing in
[11:50] <ffffu> are u in vi or nano?
[11:50] <ffffu> use nano
[11:50] <chemicalvamp> nano
[11:50] <ffffu> vi us difficult
[11:50] <ffffu> press enter on the line below iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[11:51] <ffffu> press Ctrl X to save and exit
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: ffffu has a point there, why not just copy edgy's /etc/network/interfaces over to Feisty?
[11:51] <chemicalvamp> cuz this info isnt in either
[11:51] <ffffu> !!! u have one? that's easier
[11:51] <chemicalvamp> there both identical
[11:52] <chemicalvamp> i checked it
[11:52] <chemicalvamp> ESSID:"gilley network" is whats displayed n scanning
[11:52] <root> hello
[11:52] <ffffu> wireless assistance manager doesn't edit the file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: In that case it's not an issue with the network/interfaces
[11:52] <ffffu> which mean to say u need to run wireless assistance manger to connect everytime..until u edit that file
[11:52] <chemicalvamp> so we continue?
[11:53] <chemicalvamp> ESSID:"gilley network" quotes no quotes?
[11:53] <ffffu> try ifup and ifdown to see if u can accquire network ip
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I think it doesnt even matter...
[11:53] <ffffu> no qutes
[11:53] <ffffu> put
[11:53] <se7en11> anybody know how to play vcd files .dat ?
[11:53] <chemicalvamp> ok whats after that?
[11:53] <ffffu> wireless-essid gilley network
[11:53] <dany_21> se7en11: give vlc a try
[11:54] <ffffu> hey maybe got quote
[11:54] <se7en11> no
[11:54] <ubuntura> se7en11 using kplayer software
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Let me check mine, one second
[11:54] <chemicalvamp> ok quotes in
[11:54] <chemicalvamp> what next
[11:55] <ffffu> sudo ifdown wlan0
[11:55] <ffffu> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:55] <ffffu> then ifconfig
[11:55] <chemicalvamp> save this and run those or put those in it?
[11:55] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: without quote
[11:55] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: its wireless-essid gilley network
[11:55] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Confirmed, no quotes
[11:55] <ffffu> save it
[11:56] <ffffu> nooooooooo
[11:56] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: save it.. don't put the sudo ifdown and up into the file
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> I doubt that spaces are allowed, not sure though
[11:56] <ffffu> do it at the terminal
[11:56] <se7en11> ubuntura: kplayer
[11:56] <chemicalvamp> got that
[11:57] <ubuntura> se7en11 kplayer (the media player for linux kde desktop)
[11:57] <chemicalvamp> root@ubuntu:/# sudo ifdown wlan0 (displayed) ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory
[11:58] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: don't worry about that
[11:58] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: sudo ifup wlan0
[11:58] <chemicalvamp> said the same thing
[11:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I think you need to exit the chroot again and mount /var like you mounted the other directories
[11:58] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a program that lets a linux computer show up on My Network Places in windows?
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> dettoaltrimenti: Samba
[11:59] <ffffu> not sure if you got the drivers installed..hm
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> !samba
[11:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:59] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks
[11:59] <chemicalvamp> so type exit?
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:59] <ffffu> iwlist (tab tab) whos what?
[11:59] <ffffu> iwlist (tab tab) shows what?
[11:59] <ffffu> i mean
[11:59] <ffffu> nvmind
[11:59] <ffffu> ifup (tabtab)
[12:00] <chemicalvamp> huh?
[12:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Mount /var
[12:00] <MilhousePunkRock> and chroot again
[12:00] <ffffu> type that command and press tab without pressing enter
[12:01] <ffffu> does it show ath0   eth0   eth1   eth2   lo     wlan0 or something
[12:01] <chemicalvamp> mount -t none -o bind /var /mnt/hda1/proc    ?
[12:01] <chemicalvamp> var* not proc
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[12:01] <johey> How can I make digiKam start when inserting my camera into a USB port? Currently, it just offers me to open in new window or do nothing. However, the icon is a camera and KDE-demon calls the device "USB Imaging Interface".
[12:02] <chemicalvamp> done
[12:02] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Chroot again
[12:02] <pollyo> johey: Isn't there an option to add programs to the selection it gives you?
[12:02] <chemicalvamp> sudo chroot /mnt/hda1
[12:03] <chemicalvamp> now what
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> su
[12:03] <chemicalvamp> oops
[12:03] <johey> pollyo: Yes there is... Hm.
[12:03] <johey> pollyo: I can try that one.
[12:03] <chemicalvamp> lol exit and do it again
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: nvm, just type su
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> "su"
[12:04] <chemicalvamp> sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su entered
[12:05] <ubuntura> when i start x the kde will start automaitic how to make x (startx) start non start kde ????
[12:05] <chemicalvamp> i dont get it.. i ping google in root@ubuntu:/# and i get nothing
[12:05] <pollyo> BBL
[12:05] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: i think u need to first find out what's ur wireless card by typing lspci ..
[12:05] <chemicalvamp> but ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dies it perfectly
[12:06] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: seems to me its not detected
[12:06] <chemicalvamp> are we encountering the same problems i had running fiesty?
[12:06] <ffffu> huh what's the situation? u using edgy or fiesty
[12:06] <ffffu> upgrade or
[12:06] <ffffu> fresh installation
[12:07] <chemicalvamp> fiesty is /mnt/hda1
[12:07] <Dusk_> my kaffeine player doesn't show subtitles
[12:07] <chemicalvamp> right now im talking to you thru a live cd
[12:07] <Dusk_>  it's chosen but it doesn't show
[12:07] <Dusk_> it used to show
[12:07] <ffffu> oic
[12:07] <Dusk_> but all of a sudden it stopped showing subtitles
[12:07] <ffffu> why are u connecting to net first during installation
[12:08] <natsume_> Dusk
[12:08] <chemicalvamp> lspci = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13646/
[12:08] <natsume_> reinstall kaffiene
[12:08] <Dusk_> natsume_: i reinstalled
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> johey: What you are looking for might be in the notifications section in settings
[12:08] <Dusk_> natsume_: but it's same
[12:08] <ubuntura> what is *.so files ?
[12:08] <ffffu> 05:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[12:09] <chemicalvamp> ah k
[12:09] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Since it's recognised as an ethernet card, do you maybe have eth1?
[12:10] <natsume_> just want to ask him same questio
[12:10] <natsume_> hehehe
[12:10] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: type "ifconfig"
[12:10] <ubuntura> what is *.so files ?
[12:10] <chemicalvamp> i have in if config eth0 lo and wlan0
[12:10] <ffffu> could it be the modules not loaded
[12:10] <lotusleaf> I followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?
[12:10] <ffffu> for the wireless?
[12:11] <chemicalvamp> in fiesty, wlan0 isnt even there
[12:11] <natsume_> ubuntu iso = image
[12:11] <chemicalvamp> typing ifconfig wlan0 up says device not found or somehting like that
[12:11] <natsume_> ubuntu iso =complete image of cdirom
[12:11] <natsume_> try ifconfig eth1
[12:12] <ffffu> lemme figure out what are the modules for this card
[12:12] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: type just "ifconfig" that should show you all cards
[12:12] <chemicalvamp> ifconfig eth0 does not disply the right MAC address
[12:12] <johey> When choosing to start digiKam on camera connection, it automatically makes this command line: 'digikam -caption "%c" %i %m'. However, when launching that, I just get an error message (translated into English from Swedish) "Error - Kio run: The file or directory / doesn't exist".
[12:13] <chemicalvamp> wlan0 shows the right MAC (i know)
[12:13] <ubuntura> not iso
[12:13] <ubuntura> so
[12:13] <johey> What are those %i and %m options?
[12:13] <ubuntura> the so files
[12:13] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: can u type lsmod | grep rtl8187
[12:13] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: if nothing type lsmod | grep rtl
[12:13] <ffffu> if nothign means your rtl8187 module not loaded
[12:13] <chemicalvamp> done, didnt display anything
[12:14] <ffffu> can try typing modprobe rtl8187
[12:14] <ffffu> and try lsmod | grep rtl
[12:14] <ffffu> if its loaded
[12:14] <ffffu> try sudo ifup wlan0
[12:14] <chemicalvamp> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[12:14] <ffffu> ah
[12:14] <ffffu> did u sudo ?
[12:14] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I really wonder why the network won't work inside the chroot, I am just upgrading my gentoo from kubuntu
[12:14] <ffffu> sudo modprobe rtl8187
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> sudo sad the same thing
[12:15] <natsume_> it's a dynamic shared object
[12:15] <natsume_> i guess
[12:15] <natsume_> hehehe
[12:15] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: Remember he is chroot'ed
[12:15] <natsume_> not really sure
[12:15] <ffffu> do a modprobe -l | grep rtl
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> same
[12:15] <ffffu> ooooo
[12:15] <ffffu> can he chroot to default?
[12:16] <cuco> chemicalvamp: resolv.conf available on the chroot? /proc?
[12:16] <ffffu> MihousePu: how do u chroot back to default ?
[12:17] <MilhousePunkRock> exit
[12:17] <ffffu> somehow.. u need to modprobe rtl8187
[12:17] <ffffu> that could enable ur wireless..
[12:18] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: But outside the chroot he is on the live cd, where the wifi works
[12:18] <chemicalvamp> do you want the !paste of my ls /proc?
[12:18] <ffffu> Oh
[12:19] <chemicalvamp> i dont see a resolv in ls /proc
[12:27] <cuco> chemicalvamp: /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> u want me to nano it or what
[12:27] <cuco> does it exists?
[12:27] <cuco> it should containt the same as the one outside the chroot
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> resolvconf
[12:27] <cuco> chemicalvamp: in the chroot, ping 64.233.187.99 (i want to see if this is a dns problem)
[12:27] <hnsn> hello friends!!
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> nano /etc/resolv.conf brings up an empty
[12:27] <yaccin> yay tastymenu 0.7 \o/
[12:27] <themijs> amai amai
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> its pining
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> ping is spamming me, how do i make it stop?
[12:27] <ffffu> ctrl - c
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Ctrl-C
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> k
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> --- 64.233.187.99 ping statistics ---
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> 52 packets transmitted, 0 received, +48 errors, 100% packet loss, time 51009ms
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: 100% packet loss doesn't sound too good
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> or the 48 errors
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: We could copy your edgy's resolv.conf over to feisty and chroot again
[12:29] <chemicalvamp> worth a try i say
[12:29] <chemicalvamp> i dont know the commands tho
[12:30] <ffffu> what are u doing, why are u trying to load you fiesty setting when in a live cd?
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: His wifi does not work in the installed Feisty, but inside his Live Edgy
[12:30] <chemicalvamp> no we wanna put the live cd setting into fiesty right?
[12:31] <ffffu> oic
[12:31] <MilhousePunkRock> is it /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:32] <johey> When trying to start digiKam by inserting the camera, it says it cannot start because file or directory / doesn't exist. Why? What is the difference from starting it by the K menu?
[12:32] <ffffu> hmm sounds like a funny way to troubleshoot his wifi
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> there is one line in live cd's resolv.conf
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> nameserver
[12:32] <ffffu> i would boot in fiesty and see if its a drivers/modules problem, or is it settings
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Exit
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> fiesty resolv.conf is empty
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> shoud i paste the line from live cd?
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: And then "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/hda1/etc/resolv.conf"
[12:34] <chemicalvamp> k now sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su   ?
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yup
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: DoomStick?
[12:35] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  rules!
[12:35] <linopil> any one using virtualization with INTEL VT MB?
[12:35] <nazgjunk> hey, how'd i get applications to open web links in firefox instead of in konqueror?
[12:36] <nazgjunk> copy/pasting is getting a bit annoying
[12:36] <c1|freaky> hi all. where can i change the behaviour when clicking on symbols like the ones on the desktop? i dont want one-click-execution ... instead i want it like in windows with doubleclick so i have the chance to press DEL to remove icons etc.
[12:36] <linopil> nazgjunk,  you mean from chat app
[12:36] <linopil> or?
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> nazgjunk: Default applications in the settings centre
[12:36] <nazgjunk> linopil, for instance
[12:36] <linopil> !alternatives
[12:36] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[12:36] <nazgjunk> looks like fun
[12:36] <linopil> ^^
[12:37] <ffffu> c1|freaky: go systems-->mouse/keyboard-->singleclick change to doubleclick
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> c1|freaky: I think that's in the settings too
[12:37] <ffffu> c1|freaky: go system settings -->mouse/keyboard-->singleclick change to doubleclick
[12:37] <c1|freaky> thx :D
[12:38] <chemicalvamp> ok now what?
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> c1|freaky: Alternatively, you can "draw" little squares around obkects to highlight them
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: apt-get update
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> hey there we go
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: PLEEEEEASE tell me it's resolving now
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> oh yes its going xD
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> \o/
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> so this is all fiesty then huh?
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> we should document what we did dont you think?
[12:40] <nazgjunk> yay, it's working just fine
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> well, one problem solved, a thousand remaining...
[12:40] <liam> lol
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> only a thousand?
[12:40] <ffffu> hey goodluck
[12:40] <ffffu> i gtg
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> i bet i hit every one of them
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> thvvm
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> thanks very very much
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, _I_ wanted to use your edgy's resolv.conf in the first place, Hobbsee said we wouldn't need to
[12:41] <liam> i hit all the problems when i installed fiesty
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> its all good
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> ok updates are in
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Why the hedge is everyone saying "Fiesty" when it's called "Feisty"?
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:42] <liam> cause i cant spell :)
[12:42] <chemicalvamp> erm lol
[12:42] <chemicalvamp> 739 upgraded 78 new 3 removed
[12:43] <chemicalvamp> E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> liam: You are not alone with that..
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: LoL
[12:43] <liam> that makes me feel better!
[12:44] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock 692mb it comes to
[12:44] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: sure you cant install anything on the live CD
[12:44] <chemicalvamp> you can install stuff on live cd, it goes to ram.. but you lose it all when you reboot
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What about exiting once again, and unmounting /var again?
[12:45] <chemicalvamp> maybe its permisions?
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: But as we mounted the cd's /var, you cannot... because you cant write on the cd
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: no
[12:45] <chemicalvamp> ok then tell me what to do
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Permissions are not the answer to all Linux questions... ;-)
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> exit
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> k
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo umount /dev/hda1/var
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo chroot /dev/hda1 su
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> apt-get update
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> umount: /dev/hda1/var: Not a directory
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Right... sudo umount /mnt/hda1/var
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Better?
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> if we used the cds var, it wouldnt be hda would it?
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> yes lol
[12:49] <chemicalvamp> ok well i say somebody with this in mind should write it down and post it
[12:51] <chemicalvamp> 209 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[12:54] <vio> hiya guys
[12:54] <vio> is this the place i can ask for help?
[12:54] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: Yes, go ahead... I am in a helpy mood...
[12:55] <vio> just need to know what to type to get the "unofficial ati drivers" the kind i need is  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: There is no guarantee that it will work after the updates though...
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> !ati
[12:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <vio> thx ^^,
[12:55] <vio> another quicky.. berly and compiz.. how do i install that?
[12:55] <chemicalvamp> yeah well it'de be less of a wase of time then the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade i did
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> !beryl
[12:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:56] <vio> thx :DD
[12:56] <vio> lol
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: The bot is triggered with !keyword
[12:56] <vio> yeah i figured it out
[12:56] <chemicalvamp> !botsnack
[12:56] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:56] <ded_> dans kdevelop comment regenerer ma classe de dialog quand j ai modifier le .ui dans qt sans effacer mes slots deja implementer?
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> !beer
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> ded_: English please
[12:57] <chemicalvamp> this one is funny
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> !fr
[12:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:57] <chemicalvamp> !love
[12:57] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[12:57] <ded_> sorry
[12:57] <vio> i've used it before just wasted lots of time finding drivers.. so i figured i'd ask this time
[12:57] <chijin> !sex
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <Jucato> !botabuse
[12:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:57] <vio> how can i check what kind of version i have of ubuntu?
[12:58] <vio> not sure if it is 6.10
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You know about the Firefox/Iceweasel issue in Debian?
[12:58] <Jucato> vio: "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[12:58] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock no im pretty new
[12:59] <vio> ty
[12:59] <vio> damn.. u guys are helpful ^^,
[12:59] <supernix> anyone know of a good gui for configuring apache or something free that is like cpanel ?
[01:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock what was it>
[01:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, Firefox and/or the Mozilla foundation does not fit Debian's license... So they renamed Firefox Iceweasel
[01:00] <ded_>  in kdevelop how to regenerate dialog underclass from qt ui without delete implemented slot?
[01:01] <chemicalvamp> weird
[01:03] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, so you think you'll write a how-to for what we did?
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: How's the download going?
[01:03] <vio> how do i become root?
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No
[01:03] <chemicalvamp> 16%
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: Why would you want to do that?
[01:03] <vio> in console
[01:03] <vio> to install beryl
[01:03] <liam> sudo before your command
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: sudo command
[01:04] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock you should, you remember what we had to do right?
[01:04] <vio> thx
[01:04] <mefisto__> anyone using amarok to download podcasts?
[01:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, that's plain linux basics... And still, we don't know if it will help at all...
[01:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I am much to lazy to write howto's
[01:04] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock well lets say it does :)
[01:05] <vio> i get chmod 755 beryl-setup
[01:05] <vio> i mean i get opearation not permitted
[01:05] <vio> when i type that
[01:05] <MilhousePunkRock> I always thought about putting up some kind of blog or something to keep track of what I did with Linux so far
[01:05] <chemicalvamp> sudo chmod 755 beryl-setup?
[01:05] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: Try "sudo chmod 755 beryl-setup" instead
[01:05] <vio> tryin*
[01:06] <vio> ok.. i think i worked..
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> isnt beryl in the repos by now?
[01:06] <chemicalvamp> well i have to work in 4 hours.. so looks like i pulled an all nighter lol
[01:06] <mefisto__> whenever amarok is downloading a podcast, the progress meter stops at 44%, although it seems to continue downloading. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
[01:06] <vio> !xgl
[01:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:06] <vio> what is xgl?
[01:07] <vio> ^
[01:07] <sonoftheclayr> mefisto__: #amarok
[01:07] <mefisto__> thanks sonoftheclayr
[01:08] <chemicalvamp> does linux have a .wmv player?
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You got jabber, msn, icq or aim? Unlike most others, I am not here all day, in case more issues appear...
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:08] <vio> question: can i use the installer from atiamd.com ?
[01:08] <chemicalvamp> i got yahoo, msn and aim
[01:10] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: You shouldn't, I am sure there is a kubuntu package for your ATI card
[01:12] <chemicalvamp> !ati
[01:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:12] <chemicalvamp> i had to do it too
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> its pretty easy to do
[01:13] <vio> !ati
[01:13] <vio> hmm
[01:13] <vio> strange
[01:13] <vio> !ati
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> bot like me more
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> ^
[01:19] <sonoftheclayr> does anyone have their wireless set to connect on startup in feisty?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Me
[01:21] <chemicalvamp> sonoftheclayr.. grrr mine never detected it
[01:21] <sonoftheclayr> i have to set the essid every time i boot up and connect it
[01:22] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: I think you can set that in the options, on the other hand, someone said the network manager does not touch your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock you think that could have been what kept mine from going all those times?
[01:22] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Unlikely, since your device wasn't even there
[01:23] <sonoftheclayr> MilhousePunkRock i have but it doesn't work, it does inedgy though, i think i should file a bug report
[01:23] <chemicalvamp> oh right lol
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Do you have your ESSID hidden?
[01:23] <sonoftheclayr> yeah
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Well, I don't. No use anyway, since a scan will reveal that...
[01:24] <sonoftheclayr> i only made it hidden because they were picking it up at the community house and it must've been confusing some non-techno people
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: That's not your problem, is it?
[01:24] <sonoftheclayr> no
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Progress?
[01:24] <chemicalvamp> 42%
[01:25] <chemicalvamp> download is steady 60.3
[01:25] <steven_> hello
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: That's kinda slow...
[01:25] <chemicalvamp> not my internet so i dont care :)
[01:26] <sonoftheclayr> will knetworkmanager automatically connect it?
[01:26] <steven_> has anybody managed to use a dlink wireless network adapter who can help me please
[01:27] <chemicalvamp> theres a campus router within range from tere library, bad signal
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, no, more wireless troubles...
[01:27] <steven_> indeed
[01:27] <chemicalvamp> lol
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: What chipset
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> ?
[01:27] <sonoftheclayr> steven_: i have a dlink dwl g630 firmware e1 (i think) i connected it using the madwifi drivers
[01:28] <steven_> the usb dongle is a d-link DWL-G122 hardware version C1
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: Let's start simple, type "lsusb" and look for "DLink" in the output
[01:28] <steven_> ok lets go
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I have pretty high hopes that DLink uses Atheros chips in all their devices, so it shouldn't be too hard with madwifi
[01:29] <steven_> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 07d1:3c03 D-Link System
[01:30] <sonoftheclayr> MilhousePunkRock: my other wireless card wich is the same as mine but diferent firmware uses ralink
[01:30] <steven_> from what ive seen on the net its a railink chip
[01:30] <sonoftheclayr> steven_: i've configure a ralink chip before, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:31] <steven_> the thing works and i get a list of available networks with wireless assistant on kde
[01:31] <steven_> but cant connect to any of them
[01:31] <steven_> version 6.10
[01:31] <hans> Is there any special consideration that I must take with regard to Kubuntu when shopping for a camcorder?
[01:32] <chemicalvamp> ohh i know how to fix this lol
[01:32] <steven_> kubuntu
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: What about this: http://www.hotubuntunews.com/blog_2.shtml
[01:32] <steven_> let me check the link hold on
[01:32] <sonoftheclayr> there's a good post on how to configure a ralink card in the forums, let me find it
[01:33] <steven_> is there a command i can use to find out what my ubuntu is cos i think its edgy but not sure how to find out
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: We've just had that, let me scroll up and find it
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[01:34] <sonoftheclayr> you can just go in to tty and it tells you at the login prompt, much faster
[01:35] <sonoftheclayr> that post was for dapper though :'(
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Indeed
[01:35] <linopil> how do I force after install a 3 runlevel because of bad resolution?
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> I dont think it matters much, the /etc/network/interfaces is still the place to go
[01:36] <steven_> ok its 6.10 edgy
[01:36] <hans> Is there any special consideration that I must take with regard to Kubuntu when shopping for a camcorder?
[01:37] <linopil> how do I catch stepbystep boot
[01:37] <steven_> like i said it lists networks in wireless assitant it will connect but i then lose my usb modem connectio so how do i set up to use usb modem and wireless network as seperat things but both connected at same time
[01:37] <steven_> if that makes sense
[01:38] <chemicalvamp> steven_ i dont know if it will help but i can tell you how i fixed that on my notebook
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: No, it does not. You cannot be connected with two devices at the same time, AFAIK
[01:39] <vio> :(
[01:39] <steven_> bummer
[01:39] <steven_> :(
[01:40] <vio> !repositories
[01:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:40] <steven_> thanks for the advice to all those that spoke to me on this you are to kind
[01:41] <luke> another thing, every now and again my card disconnects and i have to mess about reconnecting it -sonoftheclayr, im going to get my nickname back brb
[01:41] <chemicalvamp> steven_ did you get that?
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: I might be wrong though. But since noone corrected, I guess I am not
[01:42] <steven_> i thought i read somewhere about configuring 2 connections but dont remeber the prob seems to be with domains
[01:42] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: That might be a router thing, not sure if you can fix that
[01:42] <vio>   Currently, there are only unstable SVN packages for Edgy Eft.?
[01:43] <steven_> my isp gives me one whe i connect and my wireless connection uses a fixed domain
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: OK, within the same domain you cannot be connected twice for sure
[01:43] <sonoftheclayr> it's not a router thing, the card connects fine in edgy and stays connected in edgy, this is the second time it's happened today and it always gets me at a bad time!
[01:43] <steven_> so when i connect wireless i lose my isp domain and hence internet connection
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Until the final release, Feisty is testing... :-)
[01:44] <sonoftheclayr> MilhousePunkRock: i know but it's just so fast and easy and cool and better
[01:44] <sonoftheclayr> i'll file a bug report or two and see if it can be fixed before april 19 :)
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Good luck...
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Progress?
[01:45] <sonoftheclayr> hmmm...i have to figure out this new launchpad design first
[01:45] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock about another half hour and it should be done
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: OK, I will check back then
[01:46] <chemicalvamp> hopefully i wont be stuck at the dreadfull commnd prompt like i was before
[01:46] <vio> why can't some1 make a easy gui for beryl?!
[01:46] <sayers> it comes with one
[01:47] <vio> it does?
[01:47] <sayers> yes...
[01:47] <alexandre> hello all
[01:47] <vio> any link?
[01:47] <sayers> iti s built in
[01:47] <alexandre> when is kubuntu going to be released?
[01:47] <steven_> hello alexandre
[01:47] <vio> how do i execute?
[01:47] <alexandre> the final version?
[01:48] <sayers> It is already stable alexandre
[01:48] <steven_> im using kubuntu 6.10 edgy and its stable
[01:48] <vio> same... its good
[01:48] <sonoftheclayr> i think it might be a problem with the madwifi drivers, i'll poke around there a bit
[01:48] <alexandre> su it is worthy upgrade my 6.0?
[01:48] <steven_> havnt use 6.0
[01:48] <chemicalvamp> try a 7.04 desktop cd
[01:49] <alexandre> ok
[01:49] <sayers> Is there any built in tool that can alarm me after X amount of time ?
[01:49] <sonoftheclayr> i'll be back, i'm recompiling some drivers
[01:49] <waylandbill> feisty is still in beta. if you don't want beta instabilities, don't upgrade yet.
[01:49] <alexandre> thanks for your advice
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !kalarm
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kalarm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !info kalarm
[01:49] <ubotu> kalarm: KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 642 kB, installed size 1892 kB
[01:50] <sayers> alexandre: Feisty has only a few little bugs. It's comming out pretty soon to be our new stable release :)
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> alexandre: There is no 6.0
[01:50] <[pyro] > woo setting up kubuntu on a 6 drive raid 5 :)
[01:50] <[pyro] > weeee
[01:50] <alexandre> sorry 6.10
[01:50] <steven_> anybody know what this means? X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
[01:51] <MilhousePunkRock> alexandre: Stick with that for another 3 weeks, then 7.04 is released
[01:51] <chemicalvamp> how did you get that?
[01:51] <steven_> typing in console sudo kedit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:52] <waylandbill> I agree with MilhousePunkRock. Unless you're looking to be one of the bug triage persons, just hold off.
[01:52] <vio> !beryl
[01:52] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:52] <waylandbill> I have to go to install this 1GB memory chip. WOOO!
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: kedit seems to be a kde tool, either you use a cli editor or use "kdesu foo bar" on "run command" in kde
[01:52] <steven_> i tried beryl but my graphics card is to crap
[01:53] <holastickboy> anyone actually tried beryl
[01:53] <sayers> yes its cool but not accutely productive.
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> holastickboy: I did, next to unusable, but pretty
[01:53] <holastickboy> lol, might give it a go
[01:53] <steven_> thanks millhouse i think i need a decent graphics card anyway as i get a lot of xserver errors
[01:54] <sayers> its good to impress some one
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: Getting better hardware to make things work is the windows approach, just work on making the existing hardware work in linux
[01:55] <steven_> i managed to get glx working after 2 days at command line but its an old ati card and ati dont release the driver for it
[01:56] <sayers> steven_: The ubuntu / kubuntu wiki couldve probably got you working in 20 minutes tops
[01:56] <sayers> unless this is a really old card
[01:56] <steven_> its radeon 7000 with 64 meg memory agp 8X
[01:57] <sayers> Hell that aint old
[01:57] <sayers> a 8mb card is old
[01:58] <smile> hello linuxians
[01:58] <sayers> Hio
[01:58] <smile> did any one here use Cedega ?
[01:58] <steven_> ati drivers start at the 9200 i think but it works good enough now
[01:58] <sayers> steven_: there is a magical page and I will show you as long as you promise to love the Ubuntu wiki
[01:58] <steven_> apart from occasionally i get sent back to the login screen for no reason
[01:59] <steven_> tell me where the ubuntu wiki is as im new to ubuntu after getting fed up with mandriva
[01:59] <sayers> steven_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:59] <sayers> there is the link to what you want too :)
[01:59] <holastickboy> smile: i have used it before
[01:59] <steven_> a link to a wad of cash?
[02:00] <smile> holastickboy: how to install and use it ?
[02:00] <sayers> no better a working graphics card that costed you a wad of caash
[02:01] <holastickboy> smile: i used the cvscedega about 1 1/2 years ago and i used it like i did wine, cvscedega programname.exe
[02:02] <smile> holastickboy: wich games did u try ?
[02:02] <holastickboy> smile: www.linux-gamers.net
[02:02] <steven_> thanks sayers will try it out later but the fglrx driver was giving me probs when i used it before
[02:02] <holastickboy> smile: at the time i was wanting to run steam on Linux, which actually worked nicely
[02:02] <JuJuBee> I need help with iptables.  Im a noob.  I have squid/dansguarding/iptables on a server. One computer is set to use the server as gateway and all works fine (blocking, filtering...).  I set a second computer to use the server as gateway and cannot http to google, but can ping it.
[02:02] <jann> hi. i'm having trouble with my power manager. there is the logo in the system tray, but it doesnt show the battery status. when i click on it, it opens but everything is gray and seems to be disabled. a while ago i did some acpi configuration with help of others here in the channel because (i thought) my fan wasnt working properly. the problem is that i dont know what we changed... any ideas how i can get back my power manager?
[02:02] <sayers> steven_: I think you fubar-ed it to where it'd be easier to start fresh
[02:03] <sayers> jann: Who made your computer?
[02:03] <smile> holastickboy: can i play NFS and GTA ?
[02:03] <holastickboy> smile: http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page
[02:03] <holastickboy> smile: i dont know, i havent been current with cedega for some time now
[02:03] <steven_> i totally removed fglrx so will follow giude on the link you gave me
[02:04] <smile> holastickboy: ok .. thx a lot :-)
[02:04] <sayers> cedega should be free :(
[02:04] <jann> sayers: another problem, it was set together from different parts
[02:04] <sayers> jann: Hm, well I will find the link that fixed my fan problem
[02:05] <jann> sayers: cool, thanks
[02:05] <sayers> jann: Towards the very bottom
[02:05] <sayers> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75972
[02:05] <renato> hi, I am having a problem with all usb thum drives, as soon as I plug them in, Kubuntu (6.10) automatically mounts them, but they are all readonly...??
[02:06] <sayers> change its permissions ?
[02:06] <holastickboy> sayers: i would like cedega to be free too, but they do a lot of work and its only $5
[02:06] <sonoftheclayr> renato: what filesystem?
[02:06] <holastickboy> sayers: if u want a free cedega, try http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page
[02:06] <sayers> holastickboy: is there a list of all the games it works for?
[02:06] <renato> I guess they are FAT, I can go and double check...
[02:06] <jann> sayers: i think lm-sensors was what i installed the last time. before, the power manager worked...
[02:07] <renato> this applies to everything from an USB key to a SD card... everything
[02:07] <renato> I never formatted them, but I would be surprised  if it was something else than FAT
[02:07] <sayers> holastickboy: you mean Wine?
[02:07] <renato> (a camera does nto handle NTFS)
[02:09] <sayers> jann: Run sudo pwmconfigure
[02:09] <jann> sayers: ok
[02:09] <holastickboy> sayers: well, cedega is slightly modified version of wine
[02:09] <jann> sayers: pwmconfigure: command not found
[02:09] <holastickboy> smile: sayers: here is a list of supported games for Cedega http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[02:09] <sayers> wait I might of typed it wrong
[02:10] <sayers> cedgea supoorts direct x and such not sure if wine does
[02:10] <smile> holastickboy: so cedega isnt free!
[02:10] <sayers> jann: sudo pwmconfig
[02:11] <sonoftheclayr> renato: well?
[02:11] <holastickboy> smile: not the binary version of Cedega, but the version that u can compile urself is,  http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page
[02:11] <jann> sayers: same
[02:11] <jann> sayers: With PwManager you can easily manage your passwords. (?)
[02:11] <sayers> jann: sudo pwmconfig
[02:12] <sayers> exactly that
[02:12] <jann> sayers: pwmconfig: command not found
[02:12] <Ind[y] > What are the bad points of enabling Universe?
[02:12] <sayers> jann: did you use sudo and have you installed lm-sensors to check type sensors-detect or sensors
[02:13] <renato> sonoftheclayr: for some strange reason, now I can read and write from those thumb drives... this makes little sense
[02:13] <renato> me <- puzzled
[02:13] <sonoftheclayr> renato weird, im puzzled too
[02:13] <jann> sayers: i ran it in sudo, lm-sensors is not installed though. do i need to use the power manager?
[02:14] <sayers> jann: yes
[02:14] <jann> ok
[02:16] <jann> sayers: ok, now pwmconfig says this: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[02:16] <jann> and sensors: Can't access procfs/sysfs file
[02:16] <sayers> jann: you have to run sudo for all this A and b you must run sudo sensors-detect first
[02:17] <jann> ok
[02:19] <jann> sayers: sensors-detect: Sorry, no chips were detected. (after answering yes everytime)
[02:19] <sayers> jann: none at all?
[02:19] <jann> sayers: thats what it says
[02:20] <jann> sayers: the only thing is: Client found at address 0x69
[02:20] <jann> on SMBus I801 adapter at 1400
[02:20] <sayers> Did it ask you to write that to a file?
[02:21] <jann> no
[02:21] <sayers> "Do you want to add these lines to /etc/modules automatically? (yes/NO)"
[02:21] <lotusleaf> I followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?
[02:21] <jann> sayers: seems that i didnt get to that question
[02:22] <sayers> jann: try it again make sure to use sudo. there has to be atleast ONE thing it finds or I have no clue how your computer is even on right now
[02:22] <soon> join #wireless
[02:24] <emil_p8> hello all
[02:24] <jann> sayers: Module `i2c-i801' already loaded.
[02:24] <jann> (running it agai)
[02:24] <jann> again
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> woot chroot feisty update is complete
[02:26] <sayers> jann: now type sensors -f if you use Ferinheit or sensors
[02:26] <sayers> chemicalvamp: i am doing that right now ;)
[02:27] <vio> !beryl
[02:27] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> hehe i think mine may have been a lil more complex.. i dk tho
[02:27] <emil_p8> I have a problem with my edgy>feisty update. I get no more the desktop device icons, except if i mount them manually. BTW all my /dev/hd* became /dev/sd*. Any help?
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> nope mine was custom
[02:28] <sayers> What is the command to make somthing a .sh , what is the first line I mean, what does it have to import / include?
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> i didnt follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[02:28] <sayers> # !bin or somthing like that?
[02:28] <jann> sayers: Can't access procfs/sysfs file | Unable to find i2c bus information;
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> i dk, i had 2 gurus helpme
[02:28] <vio> fuck... i installed the "xorg-driver-fglrx" drivers ...
[02:29] <sayers> jann: oh wait you have to restart the computer so it loads the module
[02:29] <sayers> vio: uninstall them :S
[02:29] <vio> how?
[02:29] <jann> sayers: but i think i didnt change anything so far
[02:29] <sayers> vio: look further on the down the page
[02:29] <vio> k
[02:29] <jann> sayers: it just said "Module `i2c-i801' already loaded."
[02:29] <sayers> jann: I dont know it's worth a try
[02:29] <jann> ok
[02:29] <sayers> jann: You can pray
[02:29] <jann> ;)
[02:30] <chemicalvamp> sayers i had to mount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/hda1/tmp same with dev, proc, and var
[02:30] <jann> sayers: which file was it where the entries are written to?
[02:31] <sayers> jann: /etc/modules
[02:31] <sayers> chemicalvamp: heh
[02:31] <soon> My IBM T60 laptop has a bluetooth integrated. I can find it in the BIOS setup (its enabled), I can see it in #dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13654/ but I cannot find it anywhere else, such as lsusb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13638/  and finally hcitool dev is empty (no devices). Im STUCK !!!
[02:31] <chemicalvamp> sayers, by the way, i had feisty installed on hda1, only had internet on live cd
[02:32] <soon> I'm not having any luck and not much help - any BT gurus around?
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> sayers it was in total like a 10 hour ordeal
[02:34] <vio> i have succesfully installed beryl but i installed the wrong driver (xorg-driver-fglrx), i can uninstall it by: " sudo apt-get remove fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-kernel fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r) " what drivers do i then need to get the beryl working?
[02:35] <vio> yeah.. im a newbie
[02:35] <lotusleaf> vio, #ubuntu-effects may prove useful
[02:36] <Photon> hi
[02:36] <Photon> ive downloaded KDevelop on my desktop
[02:36] <Photon> how can i install it on Kubuntu?
[02:36] <vio> they seem not to answer
[02:37] <Photon> tell me Step By Step
[02:37] <lotusleaf> vio, repeat your question every 30 mins to 1 hr until they do :)
[02:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Is there no package for it in adept?
[02:37] <lotusleaf> vio, see also ubuntuforums.org
[02:37] <Photon> no....
[02:37] <Photon> please just tell me step by step
[02:37] <clemyeats> vio: did you try envy ?
[02:37] <vio> clemyeats, nope
[02:38] <MilhousePunkRock> did you search for a different repo that might have it, Photon?
[02:38] <clemyeats> Photon: try "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"
[02:38] <Photon> i tried..doesnt work....
[02:38] <clemyeats> vio: check "Alberto Milone"'s website on the internet. He's written envy 0.9.1 (with a GUI).. it downloads and installs the latest ATI/Nvidia drivers for your card.
[02:39] <vio> ah.. yeah.. heard about it.. but will it work with beryl?
[02:39] <Photon> how can i install a thing that i downloaded?????!?!?!??!?
[02:39] <clemyeats> Photon: you need to come with error messages, you can't just say "it didn't work".
[02:39] <Photon> .....
[02:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Basically untar, configure, make, make install
[02:39] <Photon> Reading package lists... Done
[02:39] <Photon> Building dependency tree
[02:39] <Photon> Reading state information... Done
[02:39] <Photon> E: Couldn't find package kdevelop
[02:39] <sayers> Photon: if you have to ask #irc for each question how are you going to catch your own fish
[02:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Anyone noticed when chemicalvamp left?
[02:40] <Photon> u happy?
[02:40] <clemyeats> yes
[02:40] <Photon> nice
[02:40] <clemyeats> and you ?
[02:40] <Photon> yep....
[02:40] <clemyeats> cool.. now you might not have the right repositories set up..
[02:40] <Photon> tell me step by step
[02:40] <linopil> \o
[02:40] <Photon> \o/
[02:41] <linopil> I installed ubuntu on MSvirtualPC2007
[02:41] <Eyeless> is there a handy app for synchronizing my laptop with my desktop-computer? (ie i want both computers to have the latest versions of the files in my work-folder)
[02:41] <Eyeless> prefably with the least possible amount of work :D
[02:41] <MilhousePunkRock> !info kdevelop
[02:41] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[02:41] <clemyeats> Photon: kdevelop is in the Ubuntu repositories, so it's just a matter of having these right. Can you check the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[02:41] <Photon> installing an application in linux is really a pain...
[02:42] <sayers> Photon: Yep it sucks , now stop complaining and leave.
[02:42] <Eyeless> Photon: no it isnt :P
[02:42] <clemyeats> Photon: on the contrary, it's quite trivial.
[02:42] <Photon> am a linux noob, ive just installed it yesturaday...and now i want an IDE which is KDevelop
[02:42] <sayers> The problem is you cant read
[02:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: No, always use what your package manager offers. See, it is there, in universe. Just enable that and off you go
[02:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: If you don't know how to set up something from source, don't
[02:43] <sayers> Linux is more doccumented then anything you will ever see. use it to your advantage
[02:43] <Photon> people, just tell me how to install? thanks...
[02:43] <clemyeats> Photon: you need to uncomment the universe repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then update APT then you can install kdevelop.
[02:43] <Photon> how? step by step
[02:43] <Eyeless> Photon: go into aptitude, search for kdevelop, klick install and of you go
[02:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Eyeless: Tell me if you find something, would be a nice extra if it synched mails too...
[02:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Kubuntu I assume?
[02:44] <Photon> yup
[02:44] <clemyeats> Photon: you need basic knowledge about APT, Adept and repositories, let me find a tutorial.
[02:44] <Photon> step by step in numbers please
[02:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Click on the K in the lower left, click on system and there on adept manager
[02:45] <Photon> done
[02:45] <Eyeless> MilhousePunkRock: yep,  it could be done with some scripts and rsync, but thats more work than i want to do atm.
[02:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Eyeless: If you ever feel like creating it, let me know, I'd be the happiest guy to test it
[02:45] <renato> hi, I have tried to install ntfs-3g in order to install an external NTFS formatted drive. the posint is that, even when I have installed it, the new drive still gets recognised as of thype ntfs, at the opposite of fuse and it is still read only. Has anybody nay ewxperience with that?
[02:45] <Photon> whats next???...
[02:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Click on the adept menu, and "manage sources" or whatever sounds alike...
[02:46] <Photon> ok then...
[02:46] <sayers> Is there an alarm for the Terminal? I do not have acess to Apt right now
[02:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: I assume you are not on Feisty yet with the latest adept?
[02:47] <clemyeats> Photon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:47] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, someone else needs to tell you how to enable the universe repository, I see there were changes here so I cannot guide you step by step on this one
[02:48] <Photon> k nevermind forget it....
[02:48] <Photon> thanks anyway for the help
[02:48] <Photon> :)
[02:48] <Photon> bye
[02:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: It's simple, hang on
[02:49] <Photon> ...
[02:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Could someone with the old fashioned adept please tell Photon how to enable universe?
[02:49] <Photon> i have downloaded the new kubuntu yesturday...
[02:49] <clemyeats> Photon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu (isn't that guide good enough ?)
[02:50] <Photon> i have adept 2.1
[02:50] <clemyeats> oh...
[02:50] <clemyeats> well I can guide you through the command line.
[02:50] <Photon> thx
[02:50] <keyo> Hi, do any of you know about tv capture cards
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> clemyeats: Probably not...
[02:50] <clemyeats> Photon: you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:50] <renato> hi, anybody knows how to use ntfs-3g?
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: 2.1 Cruiser? That sounds like mine...
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> renato: What do you need to know?
[02:51] <Photon> yup
[02:51] <Photon> 2.1 cruiser
[02:51] <MilhousePunkRock> renato: IIRC you run it as a module and it enables you to mount NTFS drives with write access
[02:51] <renato> well, I have installed it using apt-get, but my drives are still type ntfs (and readonly) unstead of fuse
[02:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Did you find that "manage sources"?
[02:51] <renato> what is the module name supposed to be?
[02:52] <Photon> manage repositories...
[02:52] <MilhousePunkRock> renato: Honestly, I don't know, I have never added any modules manually to Kubuntu
[02:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Great, click on it, what does it bring up
[02:52] <Photon> links..
[02:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: See, your adept is older than mine. Nevertheless, do you see anything greyed out?
[02:53] <Photon> yep
[02:54] <Photon> comments
[02:54] <MilhousePunkRock> should be a complete line, containing universe
[02:54] <Photon> yup found that
[02:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Highlight it and click enable at the bottom
[02:55] <Photon> there are two links: dep and dep-src
[02:55] <Photon> i mean deb*
[02:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Take both of them. I assume the -src will get the source codes for you too. Won't harm
[02:56] <Photon> ok done enabled them both
[02:56] <Photon> now...
[02:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Now click on that green arrow circle that says "Get updates"
[02:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Or whatever it is
[02:57] <Photon> clicked..
[02:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: That's gonna take a moment, after that, you can search for kdevelop in that search field
[02:57] <Photon> ok :D
[02:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Most likely a warning sign will show up next to the clock, telling you there are updates
[02:58] <Photon> yup
[02:58] <Photon> ill Full Upgrade
[02:59] <Photon> but i still didnt find Kdevelop i searched
[02:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: So you did not click on apply after you enabled universe?!?!
[03:00] <Photon> ops...hehe
[03:00] <crazy_bus> is there a quick way to convert multiple images into tiff images?
[03:00] <Photon> sorry... :P now checking for updates
[03:01] <grunt> hi there
[03:01] <malcher> hi i want to install alsa, but i need it with the option --with-cards=intel8x0... how can i say this to adept?
[03:02] <Photon> hi grunt
[03:02] <malcher> or, generally spoken... how can i give adept a flag?
[03:02] <grunt> im having problem with kubuntu installer. it refuses to detect my sata2 hdd
[03:02] <Photon> MilhousePunkRock: hes the man
[03:03] <grunt> i dl-ed latest dvd installer, i'd really like to use it :/
[03:03] <MilhousePunkRock> malcher: Adept does not compile stuff
[03:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Working now?
[03:04] <Photon> still downloading...
[03:04] <malcher> i know MilhousePunkRock.. but is it possible with which flags the packages from adept where compiled MilhousePunkRock?
[03:04] <malcher> +to see :D
[03:04] <MilhousePunkRock> malcher: Probably, but I wouldnt know how
[03:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: But you found kdevelop by now?
[03:04] <Photon> wait...
[03:05] <malcher> okay.. but thanks anyway... i accidently uninstalled my alsa ans since that it doesn't work anymore.. even if i reinstall it..
[03:05] <Photon> YAY Found it
[03:05] <malcher> but as it worked before, i'm convinced the packages offered by adept are configured for my soundcard
[03:06] <Photon> i should download kdevelop3? or just kdevelop?
[03:06] <Photon> THANKS A BILLION MilhousePunkRock
[03:07] <malcher> hm, it seems my system is missing the right module, i see...
[03:07] <grunt> anyone had problems with sata2 and kubuntu installer?
[03:07] <malcher> grunt: sry, i use pata on my laptop :/
[03:08] <grunt> worth to notice that some other distros fail the same way as well
[03:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: You are welcome... Since you just started, time to get familiar with the wiki, it will have answers to most of your questions... Always try to install stuff from adept/apt-get
[03:08] <Photon> okay... :D :D :D
[03:08] <sh4rk0> hello
[03:09] <Photon> hello sh4rk0
[03:09] <Photon> how are you
[03:10] <sh4rk0> fine thk you. And you Photon ??
[03:11] <Photon> am good :D
[03:12] <Photon> MilhousePunkRock: ive just started using linux but not computers ;P
[03:13] <Photon> ;)
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Yeah, I figured that. Downloading an "installer" and installing it is really the windows-way.
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: What you got was probably a tarball of the source code, sure you could have compiled it yourself, but it's not something I would recommend to begin with.
[03:14] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp!
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock hey
[03:15] <sh4rk0> #kubuntu fr ?
[03:15] <MilhousePunkRock> !fr
[03:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:15] <sh4rk0> merci
[03:15] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock well im all updated, but still dont have a wireless card
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> what did we do in chroot that fixed the internet?
[03:16] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: so you are live again?
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> yup
[03:17] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, the resolv.conf should still be there. And even if not, that can't be the reason why your card isnt there
[03:17] <Photon> ok i gtg Thanks MilhousePunkRock for all the help :D
[03:17] <Photon> bye...
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> i checked that, it didnt chage
[03:18] <jann> sayers: back again. another guess: acpi gives me "No support for device type: battery" could it be that the battery module is not loaded? what would i have to do to load it manually?
[03:18] <chemicalvamp> #ubuntu+1
[03:18] <MilhousePunkRock> rc-update battery add, jann
[03:18] <neonlinux> hi all
[03:18] <neonlinux> whats the wrapper used to make gtk apps look like kde apps in kubuntu?
[03:18] <MilhousePunkRock> if things work like that in kbuntu too
[03:19] <jann> MilhousePunkRock: i didnt understand that
[03:19] <jann> is that a command line?
[03:19] <MilhousePunkRock> on a shell, type "rc-update battery add default"
[03:19] <jann> ah ok
[03:19] <MilhousePunkRock> jann: Not sure if that works though
[03:20] <jann> MilhousePunkRock: rc-update: command not found
[03:20] <MilhousePunkRock> jann: maybe with a sudo infront
[03:20] <jann> MilhousePunkRock: nope...
[03:20] <MilhousePunkRock> jann: OK, things roll differently here then...
[03:21] <jann> ;)
[03:23] <jann> anybody else
[03:23] <jann> ?
[03:26] <malcher> jann: in kubuntu, it is calles update-rc.d
[03:26] <malcher> rc-update is gentoo (at least it is implemented in gentoo)
[03:26] <jann> ah
[03:26] <malcher> see the help/man page for further instructions
[03:27] <jann> malcher: but this has to do with acpi?
[03:28] <malcher> i don't know... i just saw you weren't finding rc-update :)
[03:28] <malcher> but sry, i have to go now :/
[03:29] <jann> ok, thanks
[03:29] <roux> hi
[03:29] <roux> nessuno parla italiano?
[03:31] <ubuntu__> hallo
[03:31] <MilhousePunkRock> !it > roux
[03:33] <roux> ciao amici kubuntisti
[03:34] <jann> #kubuntu-de
[03:34] <jann> oops
[03:35] <DJAnubis> man
[03:35] <gissi> Good day all. Anyone had problems with Kontact on Feisty? I'm using IMAP and every now and then I get some of my messages are being showed as "No Subject" but using a webmail for example I can read no problem.
[03:36] <DJAnubis> I wonder if that bug that I found last night got reported
[03:36] <grego_> my all screensavers dissapeared from screensaver options...
[03:37] <grego_> which package can be responsible for this?
[03:37] <gissi> Both subject and body are empty on Kontact by displayed on webmail (roundcube)
[03:37] <VincentMX> hi
[03:37] <grego_> anyone?
[03:37] <DJAnubis> hello!
[03:38] <DJAnubis> Konqueror has trouble with php download scripts, as those on http://www.filefront.com reflect
[03:39] <Mena>  WHen i do route flush i get (NOt SUPPorettd)
[03:39] <DJAnubis> that needs to be fixed, but I'm going to use ff now
[03:39] <Mena> Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[03:40] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: file a bug
[03:40] <Mena>  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(
[03:40] <linopil> has anyone succeded doing DVD repos for fast app installing?
[03:40] <PhinnFort> Mena: stfu, and explain, mkay? ;)
[03:41] <DJAnubis> PhinnFort: where can I do that?/
[03:41] <JuJuBee> Can anybody here assist me with some basic iptables config?  #iptables is dormant...
[03:41] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: either at bugs.launchpad.net or bugs.kde.org
[03:41] <DJAnubis> crap
[03:41] <DJAnubis> I have no time, I'm about to leave for florida
[03:41] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: i messed with iptables some time ago, but I don't know more than what is in the man page
[03:42] <Mena> ok , it i had a problem on my conection on linux and i do some commands and then when i do route flush to reset every thing its says NOT SUPPORTED
[03:42] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: maybe ask someone in #kde to do it?
[03:42] <Mena> i needed to reset and clear bec i had an error
[03:42] <JuJuBee> PhinnFort : if you were successful, then that is more than me...
[03:42] <Mena> So
[03:43] <PhinnFort> Mena: sure you're flushing the right interface?
[03:43] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: i was not succesfull, but that was mainly because of a bad NIC
[03:43] <PhinnFort> :P
[03:43] <Mena> ohhh do i must do route flush eth0
[03:43] <JuJuBee> I have squid/dansguarding/iptables running on my server.  One of the workstations uses the server as its gateway successfully, but another does not.
[03:43] <Eyeless> MilhousePunkRock: Unison seems like the best program if you want to synchronize folders between computers
[03:43] <PhinnFort> Mena: maybe
[03:43] <PhinnFort> Mena: and remember sudo in front
[03:43] <Mena> ok
[03:44] <Mena> but if didnt work
[03:44] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: isn't that a problem with the client/workstation
[03:44] <Mena> what the heck i suppoded to do ?
[03:44] <Mena> s*
[03:44] <Mena> reinstall kubuntu
[03:44] <Mena> ehhhhhhhh
[03:44] <JuJuBee> The workstation that is not successful can ping google.com but not http.
[03:44] <PhinnFort> Mena: reboot should do the same as route flush
[03:44] <PhinnFort> Mena: could you please explain a bit more?
[03:44] <JuJuBee> I am not blocking google.
[03:45] <Mena> heeeeehehe ok
[03:45] <PhinnFort> Mena: like how do you connect (dhcp, static ip, etc)
[03:45] <JuJuBee> I can access all web servers in the classroom, but nothing outside.
[03:45] <Mena> i usualy use static
[03:45] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: maybe use Wireshark/KSniffer to see what happens
[03:45] <Mena> let me tell you i will try the command and if didnt work i will come ok
[03:45] <PhinnFort> Mena: ok
[03:46] <Mena> bec its a bout 10 hours or more more to solve this prolem
[03:46] <Mena> beleive me
[03:46] <JuJuBee> PhinnFort : I will look into them.
[03:46] <Mena> i am not kedding
[03:46] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: good luck :)
[03:46] <Mena> BRB
[03:46] <JuJuBee> PhinnFort : Do I install those on server?
[03:47] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: depends
[03:47] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: you should, to see what passes through
[03:47] <linopil> has anyone succeded doing DVD repos for fast app installing?
[03:47] <PhinnFort> !repeat
[03:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:47] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[03:47] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:48] <PhinnFort> !iptables | JuJuBee
[03:48] <ubotu> JuJuBee: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:49] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: look there too
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> so when is the re-merged beryl-compiz going to be added to the feisty repos?  (i'm guessing once they get a package together)
[03:49] <PhinnFort> Daisuke_Ido: when they release a merged package maybe?
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, but sometimes it takes a while longer than that :)
[03:49] <PhinnFort> Daisuke_Ido: i don't think they've even decided on a name
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> no matter
[03:50] <hub_> hi
[03:50] <In[d] y> How do I set root's password for MySQL?
[03:50] <PhinnFort> !hi | hub_
[03:50] <ubotu> hub_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:50] <PhinnFort> !mysql
[03:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:50] <hub_> :)
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Coryl :)
[03:50] <PhinnFort> hub_: ;)
[03:51] <hub_> I installed Kubuntu is this beter than ubuntu ????
[03:51] <PhinnFort> hub_: in my humble opinion, yes
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> better is subjective, but if you prefer kde over gnome, you'll probably enjoy it more
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i know i do
[03:51] <PhinnFort> hub_: the difference between plain ubuntu and Kubuntu, is that Kubuntu comes with KDE as default
[03:52] <PhinnFort> and KDE is, as everyone should know by now, superior
[03:52] <hub_> i have no Programs in very litle "Add/remove Program" who can i find a good source list ???????
[03:52] <PhinnFort> hub_: use Adept manager or something instead
[03:52] <PhinnFort> it's under "SYstem" i think
[03:52] <jann> can i uninstall and reinstall acpi without problems?
[03:53] <hub_> *sry for my bad englisch > wat is adept
[03:53] <PhinnFort> hub_: Adept is the package manager for Kubuntu
[03:53] <PhinnFort> jann: you should
[03:53] <hub_> hmm i look
[03:53] <PhinnFort> jann: can't think of a reason it shouldn't work, if you do it without rebooting
[03:54] <PhinnFort> hub_: you can always hit alt+f2 and type in "kdesu adept_manager"
[03:54] <hub_> ok
[03:55] <hub_> okay but i installed from a kubuntu "CD"
[03:55] <hub_> not DVD
[03:55] <PhinnFort> hub_: ...and?
[03:55] <dromer_> hi all, I just got my external usb-case and put a sata disk in it, connected it and it showes up in lsusb, but no automount, could it be I have the pins set wrong? (should be to master I think)
[03:55] <hub_> and wen i add  a programs then is litle bit there
[03:55] <hub_> by ubuntu is very viel.
[03:55] <hub_> more*
[03:56] <jann> PhinnFort: ok, thanks
[03:56] <PhinnFort> hub_: what do you mean?
[03:56] <PhinnFort> hub_: i'm sorry, my main language isn't english
[03:56] <PhinnFort> !no
[03:56] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[03:56] <hub_> wat do you speak ?
[03:57] <PhinnFort> hub_: norwegian
[03:57] <hub_> German ?
[03:57] <PhinnFort> :D
[03:57] <hub_> :(
[03:57] <hub_> ^^
[03:57] <jann> hub_: do you speak german?
[03:57] <hub_> yes
[03:57] <jann> -> #kubuntu-de
[03:57] <hub_> okay thx
[03:59] <SlimG> My 3Com 3crusb20075 wireless usb dongle won't work out-of-box with kubuntu beta install althou the wiki says it should work, it uses the zd1211 driver, anyone got a clue on what I have to do to make it work (ndiswrapper?)?
[04:00] <PhinnFort> !ndiswrapper
[04:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:00] <PhinnFort> SlimG: you on amd64?
[04:00] <hub_> bay bay ^^
[04:01] <SlimG> PhinnFort: i386
[04:01] <PhinnFort> hub_: bye;)
[04:01] <PhinnFort> ok
[04:01] <SlimG> PhinnFort: is ndiswrapper the only solution to that dongle?
[04:01] <PhinnFort> SlimG: i'm not sure
[04:01] <Mena> PhinnFort, see this plz http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13674/
[04:02] <PhinnFort> SlimG: edgy?
[04:02] <PhinnFort> or feisty=
[04:02] <SlimG> Feisty
[04:03] <SlimG> the new beta installation
[04:03] <PhinnFort> Mena: 192.168.16.1 is your router?
[04:03] <PhinnFort> SlimG: ok
[04:03] <Mena> yes
[04:03] <PhinnFort> Mena: then i don't see any problems with your route's
[04:03] <PhinnFort> SlimG: did you follow this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[04:03] <Mena> okay but i cant conect
[04:04] <PhinnFort> Mena: wireless or wired?
[04:04] <Mena> why although i use same setting for xp and kubuntu
[04:04] <Mena> wired
[04:04] <Mena> i am not the router by the way
[04:04] <PhinnFort> Mena: and youre sure your router isn't blocking certain mac's?
[04:05] <PhinnFort> Mena: can you ping?
[04:05] <PhinnFort> *you're
[04:05] <Mena> yes the router
[04:05] <PhinnFort> Mena: how about the interwebs?
[04:05] <Mena> i tried to ping google but unkown host
[04:06] <PhinnFort> Mena: i think your DNS is broken
[04:06] <PhinnFort> Mena: try pinging 64.233.187.99
[04:06] <PhinnFort> it's google
[04:06] <Mena> yyou mean the numbers or else
[04:06] <Mena> ok
[04:06] <PhinnFort> Mena: DNS is the service that translates addresses like google.com into numbers like 64.233.187.99
[04:07] <Mena> ok
[04:07] <PhinnFort> Mena: if it works, can you please look into /etc/resolv.conf
[04:07] <SlimG> PhinnFort: I haven't tried ndiswrapper yet since it seems like the zd1211 driver should do the trick, I've found some info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd1211?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29, seems like there's some known fixable error in the driver, I'll have a look at it...
[04:08] <PhinnFort> SlimG: can you do "dmesg | grep zd1211"
[04:08] <PhinnFort> or just paste the output of dmesg
[04:08] <Mena> here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13677/
[04:08] <kiwi__> what audio player plays mp3?
[04:08] <PhinnFort> kiwi__: amarok
[04:08] <PhinnFort> or juk
[04:08] <PhinnFort> or noatun
[04:09] <PhinnFort> noatun or amarok is recommended
[04:09] <kiwi__> my amarok keeps crashing when i try to play my songs
[04:09] <PhinnFort> kiwi__: ask in #amarok for help, or try another player, like juk or noatun
[04:09] <PhinnFort> Mena: try pinging 213.131.66.246
[04:09] <kiwi__> kk thnx
[04:09] <taniusa> chisinau
[04:09] <PhinnFort> from the b0rked box
[04:10] <PhinnFort> taniusa: heh?
[04:10] <Mena> ok then bec i must to reboot to linux
[04:10] <PhinnFort> Mena: ah, ok
[04:10] <PhinnFort> Mena: wait a sec, then
[04:10] <taniusa> hthfhfhf
[04:10] <Mena> ok
[04:10] <PhinnFort> Mena: get the ip's from http://www.opendns.com/start/ and type them in /etc/resolv.conf if you still can't get connected in Linux
[04:11] <PhinnFort> and then try to run "dig google.com" in linux
[04:11] <PhinnFort> ok?
[04:11] <Mena> ok
[04:11] <SlimG> PhinnFort: usbcore: registered new interface driver zd1211rw (i believe this is the result from when i modprobed the zd1211rw driver to try make it work)
[04:12] <PhinnFort> SlimG: does it work after you modprobe'd it?
[04:12] <PhinnFort> SlimG: for some obscure reason, i have to modprobe the module for my wireless card now
[04:12] <Mena> PhinnFort, but the dns i use on xp is the as on linux an the he gives me  it but if it was okay to chnge i will
[04:12] <PhinnFort> even though it seems to have loaded every other known module in the universe
[04:12] <dromer_> can someone tell me what jumper setting I need for my saat disk to be master? (fooling around with my new external-usb-case and first even sata-disk)
[04:13] <PhinnFort> Mena: just try to "dig google.com"
[04:13] <PhinnFort> it should check the DNS thingies
[04:13] <Mena> he>>> router
[04:13] <Mena> ok
[04:13] <PhinnFort> dromer_: sorry, i don't have a sata disk
[04:13] <PhinnFort> if you give me one, i'll be happy to help you;)
[04:13] <dromer_> hmm, wait, the manual only speaks of IDE jumper needing to be master
[04:13] <PhinnFort> but try to google
[04:13] <dromer_> hehe, sure PhinnFort ;)
[04:14] <dromer_> PhinnFort: I think I read something about sata not having master/slave since it's connected to the motherboard directly
[04:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Still having issues, huh?
[04:14] <dromer_> but I'm not sure, and there _is_ a jumper on it ..
[04:15] <SlimG> PhinnFort: nope
[04:15] <PhinnFort> SlimG: can you paste the output of dmesg?
[04:15] <PhinnFort> just for my personal amousement
[04:15] <dromer_> anyway, my pc did see the usb-case, but didn't mount the drive .. but perhaps it's because the drive isn't formated yet, anybody know what it could be?
[04:15] <Mena> yes but i gues  it will be solve
[04:16] <PhinnFort> dromer_: if it isn't formatted, that's probably it
[04:16] <dromer_> hmm, but how could I format it :S
[04:16] <dromer_> I don't have a sata inteface on my motherboard
[04:16] <PhinnFort> dromer_: mkfs.xfs /dev/sd something
[04:16] <PhinnFort> dromer_: try to run "dmesg | grep sd"
[04:17] <dromer_> solomon_: you didn't have to change tho topic :P
[04:17] <solomon_> haha
[04:17] <PhinnFort> :P
[04:17] <dromer_> yeah I'm putting the case back together first ;)
[04:17] <solomon_> i used /t instead of /msg
[04:17] <solomon_> my bad
[04:17] <solomon_> getting mirc and bitchx confused
[04:17] <PhinnFort> :P
[04:17] <dromer_> haha
[04:18] <PhinnFort> someone should protect the topic
[04:18] <PhinnFort> !ops
[04:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[04:18] <PhinnFort> protect the topic, mkay?
[04:18] <apokryphos> PhinnFort: please do not abuse that; only use that in emergencies
[04:19] <PhinnFort> ok...
[04:19] <solomon_> i did feel powerful for those few seconds, I admit
[04:19] <PhinnFort> did it set off a loud alarm or something?
[04:19] <solomon_> :P
[04:19] <PhinnFort> ;)
[04:19] <PhinnFort> me too
[04:19] <solomon_> hehe
[04:19] <Mena> PhinnFort, i will try now :) , Sorry i was busy
[04:19] <PhinnFort> Mena: np;)
[04:19] <Mena> Ok
[04:20] <apokryphos> PhinnFort: yes
[04:20] <apokryphos> and we won't lock the topic (people can generally be trusted in here)
[04:20] <PhinnFort> apokryphos: i'm sorry, then
[04:20] <PhinnFort> o
[04:20] <PhinnFort> k
[04:20] <apokryphos> !enter | PhinnFort
[04:20] <ubotu> PhinnFort: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:20] <Mena> BrB
[04:20] <dromer_> PhinnFort: ok, dmesg gives back some things
[04:20] <vio> where can i dl open source drivers for a ati 9700 mobility?
[04:20] <vio> aka "radeon" drivers
[04:21] <PhinnFort> apokryphos: bad keyboard...:P
[04:21] <vio> !beryl
[04:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:21] <PhinnFort> dromer_: can you paste them?
[04:21] <PhinnFort> !paste | dromer_
[04:21] <ubotu> dromer_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:21] <dromer_> ubuntu-nl \o/
[04:21] <PhinnFort> :P
[04:21] <PhinnFort> you don't like ze netherlands?
[04:22] <dromer_> hehe, I live there ;)
[04:22] <dromer_> hence the \o/
[04:22] <PhinnFort> ah, ok;)
[04:22] <dromer_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13681/
[04:22] <PhinnFort> dromer_: to format it, using xfs, do "mkfs.xfs /dev/sda1"
[04:23] <dromer_> I think I want to format it FAT32 so I can use it both on windows as wel as on linux
[04:23] <PhinnFort> mkfs.vfat then
[04:23] <vio> any1?
[04:23] <dromer_> ok, thnx PhinnFort
[04:23] <dromer_> sorry vio, only nvidia here ;)
[04:23] <PhinnFort> vio: your installation should come with open source drivers as default
[04:24] <dromer_> PhinnFort: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[04:24] <Hobbsee> PhinnFort: everything OK/
[04:24] <Hobbsee> ?
[04:24] <jhutchins> !ati | vio
[04:24] <ubotu> vio: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> killall amarok
[04:29] <Daisuke_Ido> meh, sorry about that, focus-stealing :\
[04:29] <dromer_> haha
[04:29] <dromer_> why kill amarok? :(
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> having problems launching
[04:30] <PhinnFort> bad amarok
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> ah.  there we go
[04:30] <dromer_> PhinnFort: read my error?
[04:31] <PhinnFort> nope
[04:31] <PhinnFort> dromer_: i disappeared
[04:31] <dromer_> ok, didn't notice :P (think I have parts/joins disabled on this channel ;)
[04:31] <Levo_75> Hello
[04:31] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: hi
[04:31] <dromer_> 16:24.25 < dromer_> PhinnFort: /dev/sda1: No such file or directory
[04:31] <dromer_> hi Levo_75
[04:31] <PhinnFort> dromer_: do "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda" first then
[04:32] <PhinnFort> !hi | Levo_75
[04:32] <ubotu> Levo_75: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:32] <dromer> PhinnFort: hmm, I've never used cfdisk before
[04:32] <Levo_75> Ugh.. I just installed Kubuntu ( first time linux user) and i can't seem to be able to play mp3
[04:32] <PhinnFort> dromer: it's easy
[04:32] <PhinnFort> dromer: you could also install qtparted and use it instead
[04:32] <dromer> Levo_75: yes you need to install the drivers for it first!
[04:33] <Levo_75> How gay
[04:33] <dromer> !mp3 | Levo_75
[04:33] <ubotu> Levo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:33] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: i think amarok should pop up a message asking to help you
[04:33] <Levo_75> Thatk you!
[04:33] <dromer> Levo_75: yes, it's one of the weaknesses of ubuntu ;)
[04:33] <Levo_75> *thnx
[04:33] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: i think the next version of ubuntu is fixing this (hopefully Kubuntu too)
[04:34] <Levo_75> It does feel alot faster then winxp
[04:34] <dromer> PhinnFort: not sure which filesystem to use though, W95 FAT32 or W95 FAT32 (LBA) ?
[04:34] <dromer> Levo_75: it _is_ !
[04:34] <PhinnFort> dromer: LBA
[04:34] <PhinnFort> if you want it bigger than 4GB or something
[04:35] <dromer> PhinnFort: aah, right, it's a 200gb disk ;)
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> 32gb (afaik), though fat32 can't handle individual files larger than 4gb
[04:35] <PhinnFort> dromer: then it's lba;)
[04:35] <PhinnFort> Daisuke_Ido: LBA
[04:35] <PhinnFort> dromer: there are some
[04:35] <PhinnFort> never got the hang of them though
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> PhinnFort: right, this is without LBA
[04:35] <vio> !beryl
[04:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:35] <PhinnFort> !vj
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vj - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <PhinnFort> dromer: tried lives?
[04:36] <PhinnFort> !lives
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lives - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <PhinnFort> fsck you, ubotu
[04:36] <dromer> PhinnFort: no idea what that is
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> !info lives
[04:36] <dromer> ok, and the bootable flag?
[04:36] <ubotu> Package lives does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:36] <PhinnFort> http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> aww
[04:36] <PhinnFort> !remember lives http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[04:36] <Levo_75> So i have to convert my entire 40 gb database of mp3 into ogg vorbis?
[04:36] <PhinnFort> !remember lives is http://lives.sourceforge.net/
[04:36] <dromer> Levo_75: ofcaurse not
[04:36] <PhinnFort> dromer: don't enable it
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> Levo_75: nope
[04:36] <Levo_75> ok
[04:36] <dromer> PhinnFort: ok
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> install libxine-extracodecs (from universe) and you'll be good to go
[04:37] <dromer> PhinnFort: aah for VJ-ing, no haven't tried it yet, though it doesn't look supreme like OpenTZT is ;)
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> another new version of xorg...
[04:37] <PhinnFort> dromer: also, look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VJ_Software
[04:37] <Daisuke_Ido> !libxine-extracodecs > Levo_75
[04:38] <dromer> PhinnFort: yeah I've skimmed over it a few times, found a greatlooking ap somewhere, but couldn't compile it :S (and everything was in spanish :S )
[04:38] <dromer> ok, /me create partition now ;)
[04:38] <Levo_75> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/libs/libmad0 this correct?
[04:38] <PhinnFort> dromer: :P
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> Levo_75: that's part of the libxine-extracodecs package
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> but yes, that's the mp3 decoder
[04:39] <dromer> PhinnFort: ok, I think cfdisk is done now, what do I do now?
[04:39] <PhinnFort> dromer: write changes and exit
[04:39] <dromer> yes did it
[04:39] <PhinnFort> dromer: then mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1
[04:39] <dromer> ok, and why do I need to do this again?
[04:40] <PhinnFort> dromer: first you create partitions, then you format them
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> anywho, yet another new version of xorg, who knows if it's going to work properly right off :\
[04:40] <dromer> ah ok, but cfdisk already made the partition as FAT32 (LBA) didn't it?
[04:40] <loader007> hello i have install this driver for my gforce grafic chip it is nvidia NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run after the install boot my kde at the system is running ok after the reboot i must install new it then the boot from xserver is fail  what can i do for fix this bug
[04:40] <Daisuke_Ido> made, not formatted :)
[04:40] <endy> hi
[04:40] <PhinnFort> dromer: it didn't format it
[04:40] <dromer> PhinnFort: ah ok, it's still FAT32 (LBA) now?
[04:40] <dromer> ok, now for mounting :)
[04:40] <PhinnFort> dromer: after you format it
[04:41] <PhinnFort> dromer: yeah;)
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> loader007: what card are you using?
[04:41] <dromer> PhinnFort: or could I try and toke it out/put it back in the usb-port and automount will detect it now?
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> and i'm struggling to make sense of the last part of that comment
[04:41] <PhinnFort> dromer: hopefully;)
[04:42] <loader007> its a gefore go 7600
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> !nvidia > loader007
[04:42] <dromer> PhinnFort: w000t, automount got it :D
[04:42] <PhinnFort> dromer: great:D:D:D
[04:42] <PhinnFort> !smileyabuse | PhinnFort
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> lol
[04:43] <dromer> PhinnFort: now to get everything off my old ntfs-partition, make it ext3 and put everything back on it :S
[04:43] <loader007> yes nvidia
[04:43] <PhinnFort> dromer: sounds like fun
[04:43] <Daisuke_Ido> loader007: follow the directions at that link, loader007
[04:43] <Levo_75> Where can i see what my pc stats are, like in windows xp you can see the cpu and ram usage when you press ctrl alt del
[04:43] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: KInfoCenter
[04:43] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: under System
[04:44] <Levo_75> thnx
[04:44] <dromer> PhinnFort: hehe, really I should get a new pc with sata interface and reportition my entire hd :S this one is a mess :S (with too many primary partitions)
[04:44] <loader007> kernel modul not fout driver not fount it save not i think
[04:44] <PhinnFort> dromer: same here... I'm going to buy a new laptop in the summer, and an external terabyte disk:D
[04:45] <PhinnFort> it should be fun
[04:45] <dromer> PhinnFort: nice, I wih I had money for a laptop, would make VJ-ing a hell of alot easier :P
[04:45] <PhinnFort> dromer: I'm saving to afford it;)
[04:46] <dromer> hmz, I thought it was a 200gb disk, it only shows up as 189,9 gb :(
[04:46] <PhinnFort> dromer: someone fooled you;)
[04:46] <bronze_0_1> dromer: in which utility?
[04:46] <Mena> ehhhhaa
[04:46] <dromer> PhinnFort: I don't have any income (no job, only student-support-thingy, barely enough to live from ;) )
[04:46] <Mena> PhinnFort, i guess i will reinstall kubuntu
[04:46] <dromer> bronze_0_1: konqueror properties
[04:46] <Mena> bec of this small small issue
[04:46] <dromer> Mena: why?
[04:46] <bronze_0_1> dromer:  its correct.
[04:46] <loader007> how can i save all moment using settings
[04:47] <PhinnFort> dromer: time to find a job?;)
[04:47] <bronze_0_1> dromer: There is some overhead associated with creating afile system on the disk
[04:47] <dromer> PhinnFort: heh, yeah :( though I don't have that much time (busy student-life ;) )
[04:47] <dromer> bronze_0_1: damn, and that's 11gb worth? o.O
[04:48] <Mena> dromer, ehhh i realy get tired from telling this porblem to every one agian and agian and .....etc
[04:48] <PhinnFort> yeah, i see;)
[04:48] <dromer> or is the 200gb in bits?
[04:48] <dromer> Mena: ok n/m then ;)
[04:48] <PhinnFort> Mena: what did dig google.com say?
[04:48] <Mena> Thanks
[04:48] <bronze_0_1> dromer: yup.  Inodes and stuff. all precreated sao tha tthe entire rest of the drive can be used
[04:48] <Mena> :)
[04:48] <bronze_0_1> *pre-created so
[04:48] <Mena> PhinnFort, timed out
[04:48] <Mena> didnt conect to it
[04:48] <dromer> ok, weird stuff, hope I can get it all on the disk then :P
[04:48] <PhinnFort> Mena: could you ping it?
[04:48] <PhinnFort> the dns?
[04:49] <Mena> ohhh i fogot to ping it
[04:49] <Mena> forgot*
[04:49] <PhinnFort> :P
[04:49] <Mena> but what this will do
[04:49] <PhinnFort> Mena: did you try to replace with the other DNS's?
[04:49] <Mena> if i cant even ping google !
[04:49] <Mena> yes i did
[04:49] <PhinnFort> Mena: and still no fun?
[04:49] <Mena> no no no at allllllllllllllllllllll ehhh
[04:49] <Mena> ehhh ehhh ehhh
[04:50] <PhinnFort> Mena: what is in your resolv.conf now?
[04:50] <loader007> #kubuntu-de
[04:50] <Mena> sec
[04:51] <Mena> nameserver 208.67.222.222
[04:51] <Mena> nameserver 208.67.220.220
[04:51] <Mena> This is the new one
[04:51] <PhinnFort> hmmm
[04:51] <PhinnFort> Mena: have you tried using DHCP?
[04:51] <Mena> PhinnFort, many times befor but not this time
[04:52] <Mena> be i used to conect with static
[04:52] <PhinnFort> Mena: does it work with dhcp?
[04:52] <Mena> times befor now
[04:52] <Mena> no*
[04:52] <dromer> hmm, weird, automount finds the usb-drive, but there is no umount-option in konqueror>r-mouse-button
[04:52] <PhinnFort> dromer: try going to "media:/"
[04:53] <Mena> i will install edgy then i will wait till full fiesty ehhhhh after all thi ssomething like this miss up all
[04:53] <dromer> PhinnFort: ahhh right, thnx, forgot about that :$
[04:54] <crazy_bus> I was doing something in the terminal and then it came up with a message on a blackscreen with the two lines message at the bottom.  How can I get back to all the previous messages to read them?
[04:54] <PhinnFort> crazy_bus: try holding shift and apply pressure to the "up" key
[04:54] <Mena> Thanks PhinFort
[04:54] <Mena> Thanks all
[04:54] <PhinnFort> np
[04:55] <Mena> God Bless you all
[04:55] <Mena> Bye!
[04:55] <PhinnFort> God bless you too
[04:57] <ubuntu> Hi people. please i need help quick... i today rearranged my from the montherboard.... but now grub loads up..bbut when i select a installiation to login ito it wont boot up the operating system??? im dualbooting WIndows XP and Kubuntu
[04:58] <Smurphy[ACS] > ubuntu: calm down first - then rearticulate your question please. didn't get it ...
[04:58] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: are your cables correctly order thingy?
[04:59] <Smurphy[ACS] > ubuntu: What ? is not working ?
[04:59] <vio> !beryl
[04:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:59] <crazy_bus> thanks PF-Away
[05:03] <Levo_75> Beryl looks pretty fucking awesome
[05:04] <ubuntu> Hi guys, today i rearranged my hardrives physically from ide cables... anyways now i get no grub on bootup and so i put in my livecd, i did find /root/grub/stage1 and said its on hd0 , so i root (hd0,0) and now grub boots up and shows Kubuntu and Windows XP ... however when i choose any of them nothing boots up
[05:04] <russ33> allo
[05:04] <ubuntu> please hellp
[05:05] <ubuntu> sorry for the bad english
[05:06] <MilhousePunkRock> !language | Levo_75
[05:06] <ubotu> Levo_75: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:08] <ubuntu> Hi guys, today i rearranged my hardrives physically from ide cables... anyways now i get no grub on bootup and so i put in my livecd, i did find /root/grub/stage1 and said its on hd0 , so i root (hd0,0) and now grub boots up and shows Kubuntu and Windows XP ... however when i choose any of them nothing boots up
[05:08] <MilhousePunkRock> ubuntu: If noone knows how to help you, repeating your question over and over again won't bring you far...
[05:08] <russ33> might be the jumpers on the back of the hard drive itself
[05:09] <ubuntu> russ33: ?
[05:09] <ubuntu> it was working before
[05:09] <russ33> one was master, and one was slave
[05:09] <ubuntu> yes..
[05:09] <russ33> yeah but youve swopped them round..
[05:09] <russ33> also cold reset your bios
[05:09] <ubuntu> but now i rearrange them, since on of them is PIO mode and was slowing other HD down
[05:09] <firecrotc1> russ33: They could be on "cable select"
[05:09] <russ33> because your bios may still think they are the same way round
[05:09] <russ33> maybe, just an idea
[05:10] <russ33> ive had similar issues before
[05:10] <ubuntu> so i should reset bios to default?
[05:10] <ubuntu> try again?
[05:10] <firecrotc1> ubuntu: all you have to do it use a live CD to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:10] <russ33> if you change Hd cables over the bios wont recognise it until you do a reset of the bios
[05:10] <ubuntu> i am on a live cd now
[05:10] <russ33> no dont set it to default - you have to manually flash the bios
[05:10] <ubuntu> firecrotc1: can you walk me through it please
[05:10] <ubuntu> one second let me open that file
[05:10] <russ33> usually by a jumper on the motherboard
[05:10] <russ33> sorry - not flash it - wrong wording :p
[05:11] <soulrider_> ubuntu: please,change your nick, its gonna eb a lot easier to answer
[05:11] <ubuntu> firecrotc1: that file /boot/grub/menu.lst is empty
[05:11] <russ33> actually - first try going into your bios and re-detecting your HD's
[05:12] <soulrider_> ubuntu: what error do you get exactky ?
[05:12] <jackson_m> well no error
[05:12] <jackson_m> it says Starting up....
[05:12] <jackson_m> and nothing happens
[05:12] <soulrider_> i see
[05:12] <russ33> maybe its wot firecrotc1 said :)
[05:12] <jackson_m> for both windows XP and kubuntu
[05:12] <russ33> sounded like a prob ive had in the past tho thats all
[05:12] <soulrider_> well, grub is working fine then i guess
[05:12] <jackson_m> well i opened that file /boot/grub/menu.lst ... its empty.. how should i edit it
[05:13] <soulrider_> maybe you screwed up the installations
[05:13] <soulrider_> the kernel might be looking for the files int he wrong partition
[05:13] <jackson_m> it was working 10 minutes ago untill i switched the hd's around
[05:13] <firecrotc1> jackson_m: are you sure you're opening the one from the hard drive?
[05:13] <jackson_m> oh
[05:13] <jackson_m> no
[05:13] <jackson_m> how do i open from harddrive?
[05:13] <soulrider_> jackson_m: try swaping the cabled back and see if ti works fine
[05:13] <jackson_m> it works fine
[05:14] <jackson_m> but i dont want it that way
[05:14] <soulrider_> uhm
[05:14] <firecrotc1> jackson_m: mount the drive, then find the file
[05:14] <soulrider_> i think that could be the problem
[05:14] <jackson_m> because its an old hd on same channel as a new one.. so they boith are stuck on PIO mode
[05:14] <jackson_m> which is damn slow
[05:14] <soulrider_> at least for kubuntu, i dont think you can do that
[05:14] <soulrider_> since allt he partition names will change
[05:15] <jackson_m> firecrotc1: how do i open that file from HD if im on a livecd?
[05:15] <firecrotc1> jackson_m: what live CD are you using? A ubuntu one, or Knoppix, or what?
[05:15] <jackson_m> Kubuntu
[05:15] <newtokubuntu> hey im trying to install nx .. says i need libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[05:15] <jackson_m> 6.10
[05:16] <newtokubuntu> how do i sintall that?
[05:16] <newtokubuntu> err install
[05:16] <soulrider_> newtokubuntu: youre not installing from the repos are you?
[05:16] <soulrider_> newtokubuntu: you know about the repos right ?
[05:16] <jackson_m> firecrotc1: ??
[05:17] <firecrotc1> jackson_m: Open Konqueror, and put media:/ in the address bar, the hard drive should show up there
[05:17] <comp05> nick serii
[05:17] <BluesKaj> newtokubuntu, it's in synaptic , if you have the right repos
[05:17] <Xeh> http://www.voinaroz.lv/?auk=2i1i18g2oxz Check it out ;)
[05:18] <jackson_m> media:/ no such file or directory
[05:18] <jackson_m> in disk manager i see the partition as /dev/hda1 ...
[05:18] <jackson_m> i think i just need to mount it
[05:18] <soulrider_> newtokubuntu: it would be a GOOD idea for you to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware it explains how software is installed on ubuntu
[05:18] <jackson_m> but how? i forget im a noob
[05:19] <firecrotc1> jackson_m: mount /dev/hda1 /somefolder
[05:19] <jackson_m> root@ubuntu:~# mount /dev/hda1 /drive
[05:19] <jackson_m> mount: mount point /drive does not exist
[05:20] <smile> hi linuxians
[05:20] <dac_> can this be read?
[05:20] <firecrotc1> jackson_m: you need to make the folder that you're mountign it to
[05:20] <smile> how to get MacOS icones in kubuntu ?
[05:20] <soulrider_> jackson_m: you need to create the folder first
[05:20] <jackson_m> ok done..
[05:20] <soulrider_> smile: download a pack of icons and in the control center go to apearance > icons
[05:20] <fuel> smile: check out http://kde-look.org
[05:21] <firecrotc1> jackson_m: once you have it mounted, just go to the folder that you mounted it to
[05:21] <smile> soulrider_: where can i find this pack ?
[05:21] <dac_> tell me something,please
[05:21] <fuel> smile: under the icon section
[05:21] <soulrider_> smile: try http://kde-look.org
[05:22] <sdlnxgk> anyone have issues with Edgy while trying to share files?
[05:22] <fuel> smile : http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Aqua_Project?content=55120
[05:22] <soulrider_> sdlnxgk: with a windows PC ?
[05:22] <sdlnxgk> either
[05:23] <soulrider_> uhm
[05:23] <sdlnxgk> I can't even share it's all gray
[05:23] <soulrider_> maybe you got a firewall in your router thats not letting you share via the internet
[05:23] <sdlnxgk> like something is missing but not sure what
[05:23] <soulrider_> but you might wanna read this :
[05:23] <soulrider_> !samba | sdlnxgk
[05:23] <ubotu> sdlnxgk: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:23] <smile> fuel: the dwnload link dont work
[05:23] <sdlnxgk> samba is working and up and running
[05:24] <fuel> smile : it works http://www.deviantart.com/download/51449438/
[05:24] <sdlnxgk> soulrider_, let me rephrase... the problem is I can't share a directory
[05:25] <soulrider_> ahh i see
[05:26] <soulrider_> uhm, you know, i never tried ot share one =/
[05:26] <soulrider_> check out the forums, someone probably tried before and asked
[05:26] <soulrider_> theres tons of info there
[05:26] <smile> fuel: that link dont work too
[05:26] <fuel> smile: your connection is flawed.
[05:27] <fuel> i am downloading it right now
[05:27] <fuel> or lets try another icon set wait
[05:27] <sdlnxgk> only reason I do is because my cell phone holds some MP3's so when I ride my motorcycle and I grap them from the laptop which has xp on it
[05:27] <smile> fuel: really ?
[05:27] <fuel> smile: why dont you try browsing the website link i gave you ?
[05:27] <fuel> it has so many icon sets ....
[05:28] <smile> fuel: i'll try
[05:29] <smile> fuel: i tried http://www.deviantart.com but nothing ?!
[05:29] <fuel> smile: try http://kde-look.org
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> sorry i was afk
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> And no i am not installing from the repros ..  NX needs 04/03/07<br>
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> 8:24:00 AM - PST
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[05:29] <newtokubuntu> There is no estimated time of repair at this time<br>
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> whoops
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> hahaha
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> sorry guys
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> :))
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> can u tell im @ work lol
[05:29] <fuel> newtokubuntu: dont paste here
[05:29] <fuel> x(
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> yea i didnt mean to
[05:29] <newtokubuntu> I was trying to paste the lib i need
[05:29] <smile> fuel: i tried the link in http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Glossy_Project?content=55119 but nothing too !
[05:30] <newtokubuntu> I can not get nx installed
[05:30] <fuel> smile : then i dont know what the problem is . try a different browser
[05:30] <newtokubuntu> Needs libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ... how would i go about installing this LIB
[05:30] <firecrotch> How can I find the GID of a group from the command line?
[05:30] <fuel> or try pinging the website through konsole
[05:30] <smile> fuel: i used konqueror & firefox
[05:30] <dromer> !pixbuf
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pixbuf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:31] <fuel> smile: then the problem must be with your connection.
[05:31] <fuel> be sure to configure your browsers properly.
[05:31] <smile> my connexion is fine .. i can open other page
[05:31] <smile> fuel: all protocols are fine !
[05:31] <fuel> smile: really strange ...
[05:31] <smile> fuel: yea
[05:31] <fuel> smile: probably you could check out those websites later .
[05:32] <smile> fuel: maybe
[05:32] <smile> fuel: the ping of http://www.deviantart.com dont work too
[05:34] <dromer> hi all, I'm trying to get all dependencies for LiVES figured out, but I'm not sure wha libmjpegtools I need ( the -dev or the 0c2a package)
[05:35] <newtokubuntu> Needs libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 ... how would i go about installing this LIB ?
[05:35] <logicus> hey
[05:36] <logicus> i a new n00b
[05:36] <logicus> :-)
[05:36] <logicus> has anyone installed the new feisty
[05:36] <dromer> newtokubuntu: sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[05:36] <dromer> logicus: if your a newb, don't install feisty
[05:36] <jhutchins> logicus: Feisty is #ubuntu+1
[05:37] <logicus> ah.. yes.. i thought a much
[05:37] <logicus> better wait
[05:37] <dromer> logicus: feisty is testing, current stable is edgy
[05:37] <newtokubuntu> when i try to install i get libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 has no installation candidate
[05:37] <newtokubuntu> edgy rules :))
[05:37] <dromer> newtokubuntu: hmm, that sucks
[05:37] <logicus> thanks :-)
[05:37] <newtokubuntu> i tried that a while ago didnt work heh
[05:37] <jhutchins> !find libstdc++
[05:37] <ubotu> Found: libstdc++5, libstdc++5-3.3-dev, libstdc++6, libstdc++6-4.1-dbg, libstdc++6-4.1-dev (and 16 others)
[05:38] <jhutchins> !findglibc
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about findglibc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <jhutchins> !find glibc
[05:38] <ubotu> Found: glibc-doc-reference, libg++2.8.1.3-glibc2.2, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, glibc-doc, libc6 (and 1 others)
[05:38] <jhutchins> !info libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[05:38] <ubotu> libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2: The GNU stdc++ library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.95.4-24 (edgy), package size 321 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[05:39] <jhutchins> newtokubuntu: My guess would be you don't have universe enabled.
[05:39] <newtokubuntu> how would i go about enabling it
[05:40] <sdlnxgk> anyone have issues with doing upgrades on open office??
[05:40] <jhutchins> newtokubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories
[05:44] <sdlnxgk> soulrider_, I really feel bad now I guess samba didn't install right when I first did it and now after reinstalling it it's working ;)
[05:48] <newtokubuntu> sweet it was just commented out
[05:48] <newtokubuntu> :) yay
[05:48] <bud> can one get shisen-sho game kubuntu?
[05:50] <tux> get it with apt-get bud
[05:50] <tux> sudo apt-get install kshisen
[05:50] <newtokubuntu> w00t.. i just got nx installed w00t to the w00t :))
[05:50] <bud> ok
[05:51] <tux> if you type 'sudo apt-get install kshisen' it will be installed automaticly
[05:51] <bud> ok,thanks
[05:51] <tux> i get a error all the time at konqueror now
[05:52] <tux> hm and now i want to look for the error and i dont get any errors
[05:52] <smile> how tried Koffice ?
[05:52] <bud> thanks tux
[05:52] <tux> im installing it now to bud
[05:52] <tux> see if it's any fun
[05:53] <bud> thank you
[05:53] <tux> hm, looks addicting that shisen game
[05:53] <smile> is here anyone how tried Koffice ??
[05:53] <bud> i'm gone
[05:54] <tux> i only use openoffice smile
[05:54] <smile> tux: me too .. but i want know if Koffice is better that Openoffice or no !
[05:54] <tux> ok
[05:56] <tux> you reminded me i had to fix a file and put it on a FTP smile, tnx :p
[05:57] <smile> tux: really ?? .. welcome :-)
[05:57] <tux> that wasnt really hard to do, remind me.. just ask a question :D
[06:00] <bud> tux, it isn't there yet, also there's no item for games on my Kmenu
[06:01] <Levo_75> Guys i fail at installing the extra codecs
[06:01] <melkor> Alright I"m in a bit of a bind with feisty
[06:02] <melkor> my laptop doesn't have any thing now, sound card mouse, wireless card.
[06:03] <bud> time for lunch
[06:03] <moby_python> how would I reconfigure the kernel?
[06:03] <TBag> Does anyone know if this channel is logged anywhere?
[06:04] <jhutchins> TBag: I doubt it, that would be a pretty massive log.
[06:05] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> is there any way to set my motd to report uptime and current path?
[06:05] <knapp> Does anyone know if there is a fix for the mp3 dialogue bug in Amarok? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58617
[06:07] <samir85> Hey guys. How can I add a task to kcron so that it is executed everytime the computer boots ?
[06:07] <TBag> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[06:07] <TBag> Surpirse.
[06:07] <smile> samir85: je pense t arabe !
[06:08] <cox377> just a question, if i have linux on an old machine and had a really large HDD on it say 500gb could i potentially have issues the same as in windows of on reconizing 133gb?
[06:08] <samir85> na i'm not arab, im iranian @ smile ^
[06:08] <smile> welcome Muslim friend :-)
[06:08] <itch^> Hello people. I have a little problem. I`ve installed the nVidia driver in Kubuntu, and now, each time I start my coputer, my refresh rate it`s set to 60 Hz. If I try to modify the refresh rate from the Monitor section of System Settings, the maximum value I can se it`s 79 Hz. Now I know for sure that my monitor can du 1280X1024@100 Hz, but how cand I persuate it to do so?
[06:08] <samir85> thanks.,
[06:08] <smile> u can do that with Gnome
[06:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: you can try to set the defaults laso
[06:09] <samir85> yeah, but im using kubuntu
[06:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: by, from command line, running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> and set your default refresh rate to higher
[06:09] <smile> samir85: sorry I didnt use Kcron before
[06:09] <samir85> ok, nevermind ...
[06:09] <Levo_75> I can't see gif images?
[06:09] <Levo_75> Wtf?
[06:10] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Levo_75: well nice going man
[06:10] <Levo_75> At failing?
[06:10] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : I`ve already added the corect vertical and hoz. values to xorg.conf. Still no good.
[06:10] <Levo_75> Yeas
[06:10] <Levo_75> *yes
[06:11] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: thats odd cos the only thing that i can recall doing that is that xorg is being overwritten on boot with the "correct" configuration. did you change it by running the dpkg-reconfigure command? cos if you change xorg in kubuntu it sometimes will change itself back to default.
[06:11] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Should I mention that the only way I can set my refresh rate it`s via the Nvidia Settings apllication ?
[06:11] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: hmmm.. sounds like a xorg issue to me really
[06:12] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: how did you modify xorg?
[06:12] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: just in say vim or another editor?
[06:12] <ohmbr> hi, how do i change the charset from utf-8 to iso 8859-1?
[06:13] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : when i boot, I go to the nVidia Setting app. and set my rez. to 85 Hz. The only problem is that the configuration doesent` preserv. The next time I boot I have to do it all over again.
[06:13] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: right. but how did you append this information to xorg? did you do it manually?
[06:13] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : I`ve tryid reconfiguring xserver-org by dpkg, editing it by hand. But no good.
[06:13] <knapp> Does anyone know if there is a fix for the mp3 dialogue bug in Amarok? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58617
[06:13] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: thats odd......
[06:14] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> give me a second to boot into linux
[06:14] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Yup. I know.
[06:14] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Sure
[06:14] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: does the resolution show in your xorg configuration at all?
[06:14] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : The maximum value displayed it`s 85 Hh
[06:15] <hub_> hello
[06:15] <hub_> i search a how to for my radeon 9200 se
[06:15] <samir85> Hey, anybody here who has experience with kcron ?
[06:15] <jhutchins> !ati | hub_
[06:15] <ubotu> hub_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:15] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Damn. I think I`ve missunderstood the question. Can you pls reformulate ?
[06:15] <hub_> is that with 3d
[06:16] <aaroncampbell> I'm wondering if someone could lend me a hand building a printer driver.  Before I used redhat, and Konica Minolta supplies rpms (or .tar.gz http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ).  This is what I get when I try to ./configure : http://paste-bin.com/11319
[06:16] <aaroncampbell> I assume I need other packages installed, but I'm not sure what
[06:16] <aaroncampbell> There *is* a /debian directory in that .tar.gz, but it doesn't contain a .deb ...it has a couple Makefiles, etc...and I'm not sure what to do with it
[06:16] <jhutchins> hub_: If 3d is available, yes.  You may also want to see beryl:
[06:16] <moby_python> any suggestions.  I don't have a sound card or mouse.  Last night it worked and this morning they don't I think it has to do with upgrades to the kernel
[06:16] <jhutchins> !beryl | hub_
[06:16] <ubotu> hub_: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:16] <ohmbr> how do i change the charset from utf-8 to iso 8859-1?
[06:16] <hub_> yes beryl but my driver must go^^
[06:17] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: you may have stumbled on a bug i think
[06:17] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> because itch^, mine reverts as well.. however, it reverts to what i keep it at so i enver noticed
[06:18] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Will it help if you take a look at my xorg.conf file ?
[06:18] <MilhousePunkRock> moby_python: Try running an apt-get dist-upgrade from a Live CD
[06:18] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> itch^: you can paste it to a pastebin but if you're using the dpkg-reconfigure, its really hard to say that you've done anything wrong
[06:19] <jhutchins> MilhousePunkRock: Um, seriously, how is a live CD supposed to update it's sofware?
[06:19] <hub_> hmm when this driver work i happy =)
[06:19] <MilhousePunkRock> jhutchins: mount and chroot
[06:19] <itch^> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Here`s the link to my pastebin: http://pastebin.4programmers.net/1769
[06:19] <hub_> NO_PUBKEY A714EB87D1B1F415
[06:19] <hub_> ????
[06:20] <moby_python> Live CD?
[06:20] <hub_> i must aktuality my source list but wie ?
[06:21] <MilhousePunkRock> hub, do you know about the existance of #kubuntu-de ? you seem to be struggling a bit... ;-)
[06:24] <itch__> t3hwiz0rd-ibook : Did you said something? Cuz I disconnected :(
[06:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> iNiku: i can't see anything signifigently incorrect with the xorg config
[06:25] <itch__> clear
[06:25] <linopil> howtoinstall xen virtualization on ubuntu
[06:26] <moby_python> well now none of the kernels that I can select from grub will load the root file system, so it looks like I might have to reboot the system
[06:30] <Vixla> http://www.voinaroz.lv/?auk=2i1i18g2oxz   Go in :) Check for prizes ;)
[06:35] <newtokubuntu> can you install beryl with just nvida drivers or do u need to use aiglx /  xgl ?
[06:36] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> xgl is just the xserver
[06:36] <newtokubuntu> same with aiglx?
[06:36] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> mmhmm
[06:36] <HymnToLife> no
[06:36] <HymnToLife> AIGLX is js a layer on top of Xorg
[06:36] <HymnToLife> while XGL is a completely different X server
[06:36] <newtokubuntu> ahh .. so i need both.. sorry im a n3wb
[06:36] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> you need to have the nvidia drivers to run beryl or xgl in general
[06:36] <HymnToLife> no
[06:36] <atidem> ciao
[06:36] <HymnToLife> you need either one
[06:37] <eagles0513875> anyone know how i can improve my framerates in world of warcraft
[06:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> newtokubuntu: otherwise it'll likely crash
[06:37] <HymnToLife> eagles0513875, buy a better graphics card
[06:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> hahahahaha
[06:37] <eagles0513875> wish i could its a laptop
[06:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> eagles0513875: or make sure wine is configured properly
[06:37] <eagles0513875> its integrated
[06:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ew
[06:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> intel integrated?
[06:38] <eagles0513875> is there a way i can disable d3d
[06:38] <eagles0513875> ati integrated
[06:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> if its ati you can still upgrade it
[06:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it just takes some craftiness
[06:38] <eagles0513875> its integrated though
[06:39] <srecko> eagles0513875: lower resolution, lower colors, disable landscape :)
[06:39] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: in a laptop? Upgrade from ati card? how? I'd love to upgrade my radeon 9000 to nvidia-anything....
[06:39] <srecko> eagles0513875: look for optimisations on internet
[06:39] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: depends on if they solder it to the board or not
[06:39] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> my asus isn't soldered so i can replacei t
[06:40] <srecko> if it's integrated, you get one that isnt, if I'm right...
[06:40] <c1|freaky> I love kubuntu :D
[06:40] <srecko> ...
[06:40] <eagles0513875> wine optimisations
[06:41] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: so check your laptop model and see if you have the ability to
[06:41] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: interesting.... i should look inside my dell
[06:41] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: some dells can do it :-)
[06:41] <bipolar> 600m?
[06:41] <moby_python> okay I have feisty on my laptop, but it wont boot.  I have a breezy cd and I can boot from that, can I reconfigure feisty from a shell?
[06:42] <srecko> Ok, anyone here running kubuntu in vmware ?
[06:42] <newtokubuntu> I got another question. I need to physically load my wifi program and start my card on boot..
[06:42] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: not sure exactly which ones but i know the d820 can be
[06:42] <c1|freaky> can i find the logo from kubuntu (feisty) somewhere so i can put it on my website?
[06:42] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it uses a quadro tho, ewwy for gaming
[06:42] <newtokubuntu> with out loggin in is there a way to have it login to my wifi ?
[06:42] <underdog5004> I need help getting my philips hdd082 2Gb mp3 player to be recognized correctly. Right now, kubuntu is seeing it as a camera, and I can't do anything with it...
[06:44] <titov> hi all...wondering if someone knows how I can install domainname command on kubuntu
[06:44] <titov> or what repos is it part of?
[06:44] <soulrider_>  !domainname
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domainname - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <voicu> if am logged in through ssh how can i start an X program that displays on the local machine?
[06:44] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: though now i am intrigued... why would you buy a dell? lol
[06:44] <soulrider_> =/ you might wanna look int he forums
[06:45] <HymnToLife> !find domainname
[06:45] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: they are inexpensive and most of them have good linux support :)
[06:45] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> voicu: you can use -X to forward X applications
[06:45] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> or you can use NX to launch an rdp-like desktop
[06:45] <ubotu> File domainname found in gnulib, hostname, nis
[06:45] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: so does asus tho :-)
[06:45] <HymnToLife> titov, ^^
[06:45] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: eh.... ;)
[06:45] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: and they're much more reliable little boxen :-)
[06:46] <titov> ok let me check that out
[06:46] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: if i had the money to piss away i'd buy a nice big lenovo
[06:46] <voicu> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: that's for ssh, right?
[06:46] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: me too
[06:46] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> voicu: yes but launching a full kde desktop is very unstable thru that
[06:46] <voicu> ok, thanks
[06:46] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: except they use intel integrated... and i do play video games like a fiend.
[06:46] <voicu> i just need a few programs
[06:46] <ligeti_> test
[06:47] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> voicu: sure, just during SSH login run -X <program name>
[06:47] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> voicu: i used to do it at work to chat on gaim without getting caught ;-)
[06:47] <voicu> hehe
[06:47] <voicu> nice
[06:47] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: looks like it's solderd onto the mb
[06:47] <bipolar> :((
[06:47] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: ahh then upgrading isn't really a posibility
[06:48] <bipolar> nope
[06:48] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> tho i have heard dell mobos are generally interchangable.. have you just looked into buying a dell mobo with a larger gpu?
[06:48] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: not really... probbly not worth the effort :\
[06:48] <titov> hmmm...I can't find the domainname in that link
[06:49] <titov> do u know which repos it is part of?
[06:49] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: or looked into a new laptop?
[06:49] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: i just bought a new asus, one of their smaller 14 inch ones, thats quite a little beast for its size
[06:49] <bipolar> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: looked? yep :P
[06:50] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> bipolar: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16834220157 << not badly priced on there either :-P
[06:51] <Hrontore> all right i need help trouble shooting the ati binary driver
[06:52] <bentob0x> I'd like to have some applications on different desktops without showing them on my Taskbar if I'm not on that desktop
[06:52] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Hrontore: my virgin nvidia ears! :-P
[06:52] <Hrontore> lol
[06:52] <MinceR> :D
[06:52] <bentob0x> basically, only the applications that are on the desktop are showing on the taskbar
[06:53] <Hrontore> t3gwizOrd-ibook: my virgin wallet
[06:53] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Hrontore: what about your wallet? lol
[06:53] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> im confused
[06:53] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Hrontore: you can't thro fast ones on me, im naturally blonde.
[06:53] <Hrontore> t3hwizOrd-ibook: the card was cheap, im cheap...
[06:53] <BluesKaj> Hrontore, try 'Envy" ...it worked for me with my ATI drivers ...it's a bit risky but it's the best solution I've found so far.
[06:54] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ohhh... Hrontore you'll regret that :-P
[06:54] <Hrontore> BluesKaj: what is Envy?
[06:54] <BluesKaj> !Envy
[06:54] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[06:55] <Hrontore> OHHHH Goody, disclamers
[06:56] <BluesKaj> well, I managed to get DRI and Tvtime working by using the latest driver setup thru envy , which I couldn't do previously
[06:57] <BluesKaj> one has to take a few calculated risks with ATI in Linux I'm afraid ...it's just afact of life :)
[06:57] <Hrontore> true true
[06:58] <Hrontore> my first nvidia card bit the dust from esd
[06:58] <BluesKaj> got tired of searching for solutions , so I went with the devil I know
[06:58] <Hrontore> dont we all
[06:59] <CarinArr> actually none of the nvidia cards i've had have broken on me
[06:59] <CarinArr> whcih is quite an achievement as everything else seems to have at some point or other
[07:00] <Hrontore> BluesKaj: could you walk me through the install?
[07:04] <voicu> wiz0rd, ssh -X doesn't work: i still get 'cannot connect to X server' or 'not authorized to start X'
[07:05] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> are you on windows doing this?
[07:05] <voicu> lol, no
[07:05] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> okay
[07:05] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> thats odd
[07:05] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> the only time ie ver got that was whne i was sshing thru windows
[07:06] <sayers> The upgrade didn't work :(
[07:06] <sayers> Had to reinstall kubuntu
[07:07] <Yorokobi> voicu, have you looked at NX? http://www.nomachine.com/
[07:07] <ep> Desktop question. Somehow errant fingers accidently launched the KDE Katapult app.  know nothing about this and never use it.  Now "alt-f2"  no longer opens "Run".  How to fix?
[07:08] <voicu> uh, what port is X transmitting?
[07:08] <posingaspopular> ep, katapult is alt+spacebar+typing the name of the app
[07:08] <voicu> i have a firewall
[07:08] <posingaspopular> duno about the rest of the question
[07:08] <Yorokobi> voicu, 'cat /etc/services | grep X'
[07:09] <voicu> nice, thanks :D
[07:09] <Levo_75> I now have this file : libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb
[07:09] <Levo_75> What do i do with it?
[07:10] <Levo_75> * it's for the mp3 codec
[07:10] <ep> ah, the katapult thing might be irrelevant then.  The rest of the question is what i need a clue on.
[07:10] <posingaspopular> !mp3
[07:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:12] <Yorokobi> !info libc6
[07:12] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.4-1ubuntu12.3 (edgy), package size 4032 kB, installed size 9992 kB
[07:12] <Admiral_Chicago> Levo_75: follow the first two links
[07:13] <animimotus> is it a bug in kate for desindent with ctrl + shift + i ? I'm on edgy
[07:13] <Yorokobi> animimotus, that's by design.
[07:14] <sayers> Does anyone know why my Upgrade didnt work?
[07:14] <Yorokobi> In kate, Settings -> Configure Shortcuts if you want to change the shortcut keys.
[07:14] <sayers> root: You want to not run irc in SU or Sudo
[07:15] <animimotus> Yorokobi: sure I have checked, it's the same by default
[07:15] <sayers> I think I have this one : or if you have KDE 3.5.6 Edgy packages installed add this one for i386:
[07:15] <Levo_75> How do i install software outside the list in adept?
[07:16] <Yorokobi> Levo_75, 'sudo dpkg -i <debfile.deb>
[07:16] <sayers> Levo_75: with aptitude
[07:16] <ep> I wonder if my keyboard quit working for either the alt or f2.  Anyway to test this key combination?
[07:16] <Yorokobi> '
[07:16] <animimotus> Yorokobi: ctrl + i is the same than ctrl + altgr + i :\
[07:16] <Levo_75> ?
[07:16] <sayers> Yorokobi: no ...
[07:16] <Levo_75> Where do i type that?
[07:16] <sayers> Levo_75: what are you trying to install
[07:16] <Levo_75> Opera browser, mp3 codecs
[07:17] <c1|freaky> is there any explanation of the copy&pasting under kde?
[07:17] <sayers> You can do that with aptitude
[07:17] <sayers> Levo_75: open your terminal
[07:17] <DarphBobo> lol #hardware has only 2 users
[07:17] <Levo_75> Yes
[07:17] <DarphBobo> one of them is chanserv
[07:17] <srecko> DarphBobo... :\
[07:17] <srecko> not really :)
[07:17] <sayers> Levo_75: now type sudo aptitude search opera
[07:17] <Levo_75> I opened terminal ( Commando uitvoeren) in dutch
[07:17] <srecko> ##hardware does
[07:17] <srecko> but #hardware is crowded
[07:18] <c1|freaky> why do u all use aptitude instead of apt-get and apt-cache?
[07:18] <DarphBobo> srecko, sorry wrong channel :D
[07:18] <smile_> anyone can help me .. i want install MacOS icones
[07:18] <sayers> c1|freaky: because aptitude is better and allows more stuff
[07:18] <srecko> ;)
[07:19] <c1|freaky> sayers: what for example?
[07:19] <bodo> trivia :P
[07:19] <bodo> hello
[07:19] <sayers> c1|freaky: I dont think you can install drivers with apt-get
[07:19] <sayers> you dont get all the packages I believe
[07:19] <Levo_75> Nothing happens :s
[07:19] <bodo> what drivers?
[07:19] <bodo> :D
[07:19] <sayers> Levo_75: you might have to type it in german or russia or whatever
[07:19] <c1|freaky> i think u get all packages with apt-get
[07:20] <Levo_75> Dutch
[07:20] <Levo_75> Now what the fuck?
[07:20] <tominglis> hi guys, i have a problem with kubuntu feisty (latest) and my wireless router - networkmanager assigns my router's ip address as the top dns server, and this causes dns lookups to be really really slow, but when i remove this ip manually from the list (each time i restart the computer, or refresh the network connection), then lookup speeds return to normal
[07:20] <Levo_75> English commands don't work in the dutch version?
[07:20] <tominglis> can anyone help me?
[07:20] <sayers> hm, well any way aptitude is better
[07:21] <ep> ah solved the mystery.  It's this new Microsoft ergonomic keyboard.  It has a function lock key and it was off, wtf.
[07:22] <jhutchins> tominglis: Feisty is in #ubuntu+1 - still beta.
[07:22] <Levo_75> Guess what
[07:22] <Levo_75> Nothing happens :(
[07:22] <jhutchins> sayers: aptitude is just a gui shell for apt-get.
[07:22] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> jhutchins: not entireellyyy
[07:22] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it handles metapackages a little different
[07:22] <jhutchins> sayers: You can actually do more with the command line tools than you can with the GUI.
[07:23] <jhutchins> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: True.
[07:23] <jhutchins> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: You should get the same results though.
[07:23] <sayers> jhutchins: aptitude install blah is not GUI
[07:23] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it was what was supposed to be the successor of apt-get... but apt-get is just still too hott to stop
[07:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sayers: vim is gui :-P
[07:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> slapped*
[07:24] <c1|freaky> gvim is gui
[07:24] <ep> Karma getting me. It took all my willpower to force myself to buy  a Microsoft brand keyboard.  I liked the way it felt and it was on sale at Best Buy.  I never loaded the kernel module for it cause I don't care about all the extra keys and gizmos.
[07:24] <sayers> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: I believe Vim is UI not GUI
[07:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> microsoft makes a sexy keyboard.
[07:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sayers: i know... i was acting stupid lol
[07:25] <soulrider_> !printer
[07:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ep: i've been using microsux keyboard and mice since i was 8
[07:25] <ep> Yeah, it's growning on me.
[07:25] <daftman> hi
[07:27] <voicu> in case you want to know, ssh -X works, i just had to restart the connection after accepting the X ports
[07:27] <voicu> thanks for the help
[07:27] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> voicu: no problemo
[07:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i accept credit cards and money orders :-)
[07:28] <voicu> hehe
[07:28] <sayers> I have a nice microsoft ergonomic keyboard. They cant make an OS that graet but they can make a very comfortable keyboard
[07:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sayers: ironic eh?
[07:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> lol
[07:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> their lowest selling point is the only thing they ever got right
[07:30] <ep> sayers, did you use hte extra keys?  You have to load a kernel module for that right?
[07:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> you can just assign the keys in edgy
[07:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it worked for me
[07:30] <sayers> No I dont use the extra keys
[07:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> but again
[07:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i have an old old microsoft wireless natural
[07:31] <ep> i agree, it's really comfortable.  At least the model I bought.  After two days or so of using it, I was hooked.
[07:32] <sayers> It took two days of typing to get used to it ;)\
[07:32] <ep> yep
[07:32] <sayers> Yorokobi: ?
[07:33] <Yorokobi> sayers, !
[07:33] <sayers> !
[07:33] <Yorokobi> sayers, I use the dvorak-us keyboard layout instead of qwerty. It has saved me from a lot of pain.
[07:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ep: what kernel app needs to be installed
[07:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ?
[07:34] <prak> does anyone know how to fix kubuntu os that can't get past the login screen
[07:34] <prak> after the correct login information?
[07:34] <sayers> Yorokobi: what do those look like?
[07:34] <Yorokobi> sayers, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard
[07:35] <sinkorswim> how can I enable the multiverse repository?
[07:35] <sinkorswim> i have directions for ubuntu but dont seem to have the same options in my start menu
[07:35] <Yorokobi> !source-o-matic > sinkorswim
[07:35] <sayers> Yorokobi: that is weird. How does it save you pain?
[07:36] <Yorokobi> sayers, qwerty caused tendonitis <sp?> and I had to get periodic deep tissue massages on my forearms and wear wrist braces. I don't need that now.
[07:37] <CarinArr> sinkorswim: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[07:37] <sayers> Yorokobi: I get that , before I got my Keyboard.
[07:37] <CarinArr> sinkorswim: just change the "gedit" to "kate"
[07:37] <sinkorswim> thanks all
[07:37] <sinkorswim> CarinArr: actually I like vim :)
[07:37] <cyt> I am curious why my friends use Debian for a long time think (K)Ubunut is bug-prone than Debian? Is that ture or any misunderstanding?
[07:37] <ep> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Can't recall. I just read something on the forums.  non-standard keys
[07:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> does anyone have any ideas what the official kde 4 desktop is gonna look like?
[07:38] <ep> I don't really care about em, so I didn't look into it
[07:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> or is that under tight lock and key during development?
[07:38] <Yorokobi> ep, t3hwiz0rd-ibook there are packages available that allow the use of extra keys
[07:38] <CarinArr> sinkorswim: then replace the gedit with vim;)
[07:38] <cyt> At least I think there are big improves from edgy to feisty beta.
[07:39] <sayers> Yorokobi: It's all about posture and your equipment and this program called work rave ;)
[07:39] <sayers> Anywho cya later.
[07:41] <Levo_75> Why can't i install anything?
[07:42] <prak> does anyone know how to fix kubuntu os that can't get past the login screen after typing in the correct login information?
[07:43] <c1|freaky> check numlock and capslock
[07:43] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> prak: did you merge a homefolder from a previous computer or install?
[07:43] <prak> t3hwiz0rd-ibook
[07:43] <prak> : i'm not sure
[07:44] <prak> i don't think so
[07:44] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> what happens after you log in?
[07:44] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> or attempt to?
[07:46] <gae> does anyone have Cedega TransGaming? I need some help
[07:46] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> gae: whats up?
[07:47] <gae> I have a prob with KOTOR: the character moves too quickly, like on E
[07:47] <Levo_75> This channel doesn't have mods?
[07:47] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Levo_75: all channels have mods
[07:47] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> freenode philosophy is to not remain in op status unless enforcing rules
[07:47] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> keeps the temperature of chat more mild
[07:47] <Levo_75> cool
[07:48] <solomon_> Levo_75: i accidentally changed the topic in here, and i'm not a mod.  I felt really powerful for 2 seconds, FYI
[07:48] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> gae: honestly the first thing i'd do is try regular WINE
[07:49] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i must say that the day of cedega being better than wine is much far over... and wine runs fantabulous and "just works" for most stuff supported
[07:49] <solomon_> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: how does it run games?  i haven't tried it in YEARS...maybe i'll have to
[07:50] <gae> knew Wine was about apps, not gaimes...
[07:50] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> solomon_:  i play hl2 coutnerstrike source and day of defeat source flawlessly with settings maxed in full screen on standard wine
[07:52] <Levo_75> I want to use dual boot, but i obly have a 40 gb hdd
[07:52] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> is there any text-based browsers better than lynx
[07:52] <Levo_75> :(
[07:53] <prak> does anyone know how to remove kde?
[07:53] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[07:53] <Levo_75> How do i install opera browser?
[07:53] <mrdlouisd> id like to remote desktop to my win32 server, any recommendations on what app i should use?
[07:53] <Levo_75> How do i install anything?
[07:53] <Photon> hi, ok ive got a new issue
[07:53] <srecko> sudo apt-get install
[07:53] <mrdlouisd> id like to transfer files also
[07:54] <Yorokobi> mrdlouisd, rdesktop and tsclient
[07:54] <Photon> i need to install real player
[07:54] <srecko> Levo_75: start Kadept
[07:54] <Levo_75> kadept?
[07:54] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> mrdlouisd: using the standard rdp protocal?
[07:54] <Levo_75> i have adept
[07:54] <srecko> Levo_75: run it :)
[07:54] <Levo_75> Running
[07:54] <Levo_75> Now?
[07:54] <srecko> See the packages?
[07:54] <sep1318> Photon: your issue is?...
[07:55] <Levo_75> Opera isn't in there
[07:55] <srecko> ok
[07:55] <waylandbill> mrdlouisd: realvnc, tightvnc, ms terminal services, etc.
[07:55] <Photon> i want to download and install real player
[07:55] <mrdlouisd> thanks going to look into them
[07:55] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> mrdlouisd: well wait a second here
[07:55] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> mrdlouisd: are you trying to access it thru terminal services?
[07:55] <Levo_75> I have to register for pm man
[07:56] <sep1318> real is in the commercial repositories.
[07:56] <mrdlouisd> just trying to remote to it, im new to linux. I used to just use remote desktop connectoin
[07:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> if you use rdc
[07:56] <mrdlouisd> was looking for something similar
[07:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> just sudo apt-get install rdesktop
[07:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> thats the linux implimentation of rdc
[07:56] <Yorokobi> and tsclient
[07:56] <mrdlouisd> would i have to install anything on my server?
[07:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> yes and tsclient
[07:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> mrdlouisd: does your server already accept rdc's?
[07:57] <Yorokobi> mrdlouisd, enable remote rdp connections is all
[07:57] <mrdlouisd> yes
[07:57] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> mrdlouisd: then no
[07:57] <mrdlouisd> sweet thanks
[07:57] <waylandbill> mrdlouisd: install rdesktop and use krdc
[07:57] <mrdlouisd> ok
[07:57] <Tm_T> arr
[07:57] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Tm_T: right when you did that the song i was listening to did it
[07:57] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> creepy
[07:57] <Tm_T> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: no, it was me
[07:57] <Photon> i dont have a commercial deposites link
[07:58] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> lmao
[07:58] <sep1318> right.
[07:58] <Photon> i have downloaded realplayerGOLD10.bin
[07:58] <sep1318> ok.
[07:58] <Photon> and i have another one which is in RPM extension
[07:59] <waylandbill> Photon: why not just get the one from medibuntu?
[07:59] <Levo_75> srecko nothing shows up
[07:59] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Yorokobi: i didn't know krdc connected to windows terminal servers
[07:59] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Yorokobi: thats pretty spiffy
[07:59] <waylandbill> !medibuntu
[07:59] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[07:59] <BluesKaj> anyone here familiar with creating torrent files ...I keep getting errors when trying to install a "createtorrent utility" ..error error no open ssh ...why would that be required ?
[07:59] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd-ibook, krdc is not nearly as friendly as tsclient, but yes, it works
[07:59] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> tsclient eh?
[07:59] <srecko> Levo_75: enable all repositories that have 'deb' prefix
[07:59] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i am so disconnected from the remote desktop world
[07:59] <sep1318> Photon: or you can follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-9a7a4519857af012ff775e9c0f15fbce60173676
[07:59] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ssh for life
[08:00] <srecko> not necesicary to enable those with 'deb-src'
[08:00] <sep1318> ...and get it from the commercial repository
[08:00] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: for the crypto libraries most likely.
[08:00] <Photon> k checking...
[08:00] <sparrw> konqueror is not providing the password to kate when i try to open a remote file.  help?
[08:00] <BluesKaj> it doesn't specify what libs are required tho, waylandbill
[08:01] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: what utility is it and what's the error? are you trying to compile it?
[08:02] <BluesKaj> waylandbill, it's CreateTorrent tarball
[08:03] <Levo_75> srecko i fail at doing that
[08:03] <BluesKaj> http://www.createtorrent.com/
[08:03] <waylandbill> BluesKaj: ktorrent can create torrents. If you are getting errors about missing openssh during a configure you probably need openssh-dev
[08:03] <Photon> i cant find real player...
[08:04] <Ash-Fox> !realplayer
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <sep1318> Photon, where/how are you looking?
[08:04] <BluesKaj> ok, waylandbill, thx I'll check it out ...didn't really look around ktorrent for the make torrent option
[08:04] <Photon> adept manager
[08:05] <Photon> i have put the commercial link
[08:05] <Photon> and fetched updates then searched for real player
[08:05] <sep1318> did you just copy/paste the link i gave you?
[08:06] <waylandbill> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[08:06] <sep1318> cuz you shouldn't have.
[08:06] <sep1318> :)
[08:07] <sgumby> is there a way to install kubuntu from the live cd but not from the graphical installer ?
[08:07] <Photon> i have kubuntu
[08:07] <Photon> no i didnt copy paste
[08:07] <Photon> i opened the link
[08:07] <sep1318> ok good.
[08:07] <Photon> then went to the link down
[08:07] <Photon> the commercial one
[08:07] <sep1318> right, so you put it in your list and updated, like it said?
[08:08] <Photon> waylandbill: no such file or directory
[08:08] <knapp> Does anyone know a work-around for this bug? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/58617) I posted the crash report (at the very bottom)
[08:08] <sep1318> except replacing dapper with edgy if your using it?
[08:08] <Yorokobi> sgumby, if there's a way to add kernel options to the LiveCD boot, use 'linux text' ... I can't confirm that'll work at the moment
[08:08] <halo> guys what a strange thing... *_* I've ever used suse, I installed now latest edgy kubuntu on my laptop and I can't find a root
[08:09] <halo> if I've something to do, for example with adept, kde ask me for a password
[08:09] <Photon> now what should i do to get real player tell me step by step
[08:09] <sgumby> will y have to download the alternate install cd ?
[08:09] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: there is a way, there's a menu option that says "extra options" or something
[08:10] <halo> which password I give him?? I tried setting root password in konsole, and is now set, but it seems like it's not good for KDE privilege access
[08:10] <sep1318> if you did everything, it should be there.
[08:10] <halo> can you help me please?
[08:10] <PhinnFort> halo: don't use the root password
[08:10] <PhinnFort> halo: use your own password
[08:10] <PhinnFort> halo: your account
[08:10] <Yorokobi> sgumby, probably not.
[08:10] <Photon> i changed it to edgy, still didnt find real player
[08:10] <PhinnFort> halo: you should randomize your root password again, or just set it to something really hard
[08:10] <halo> PhinnFort:  it means that a user can install and uninstall software?
[08:11] <PhinnFort> halo: yes, using something called "sudo"
[08:11] <sep1318> Photon: what's the line you put into your list?
[08:11] <PhinnFort> halo: with Ubuntu's patches, it's much more secure
[08:11] <sgumby> Yorokobi:it say linux:2/vmlinux: unable to open file, Invalid device
[08:11] <halo> PhinnFort: can I disable this orrible thing? how?
[08:11] <Photon> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[08:11] <PhinnFort> halo: which horrible thing?
[08:11] <Photon> deb before it
[08:11] <PhinnFort> halo: i think you must remove your user from the wheel group if you don't want to be able to to administrative thing
[08:11] <PhinnFort> s
[08:11] <srecko> Levo_75: read some manual, man :D
[08:11] <Photon> dapper-commercial after it
[08:11] <Photon> i changed dapper to edgy
[08:12] <halo> PhinnFort: that a user can do everything with adept
[08:12] <PhinnFort> !sudo
[08:12] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:12] <sep1318> Photon: so edgy-commercial main after the addy?
[08:12] <PhinnFort> halo: go to system settings -> user management, and select your user
[08:12] <PhinnFort> but first select administrator mode
[08:13] <Photon> i just changed dapper-commercial to edgy-commercial
[08:13] <PhinnFort> and create a new backup user, and then remove your normal user from the "admin" group
[08:13] <Yorokobi> sgumby, try 'vmlinux text'  ... you may have to get the alternate (non-Live) CD
[08:13] <Levo_75> I'm gonna use windows xp again, i can't even install a simple browser :(
[08:13] <PhinnFort> halo: then you won't be able to "sudo"
[08:13] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: what's your problem?
[08:13] <ubuntu> CIAO
[08:13] <PhinnFort> ciao
[08:13] <PhinnFort> vaia con Dios
[08:14] <sgumby> not working :( alternate cd is on the way
[08:14] <Photon> first of all, are u sure real player exists?
[08:14] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:14] <Levo_75> I'm failing at installing programs
[08:14] <sgumby> but it boot
[08:14] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: how?
[08:14] <sep1318> yeah
[08:14] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: go to Add/remove Programs, and install away
[08:14] <ubuntu> is there an italian person???
[08:14] <PhinnFort> !it
[08:14] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:14] <sgumby> and the graphical mode works too but the installer is way too slow
[08:14] <Photon> do u have it installed
[08:14] <Photon> why dont u try
[08:15] <soulrider_> Photon: real player is on one fo the repos
[08:15] <sep1318> yeah, gimme a sec to see if i can find it, then we can try to figure out why you can't see it.
[08:15] <soulrider_> its int he cannonical commercial repo
[08:15] <Levo_75> I downloaded the install file of opera
[08:15] <sep1318> that's where i've been trying to lead him, but it isn't coming up.
[08:15] <Photon> but i cant find it
[08:15] <Levo_75> How do i find that with opera?
[08:15] <sep1318> right, hold on.
[08:15] <sep1318> :)
[08:15] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: amd64?
[08:15] <jbaloul> hi all
[08:15] <halo> PhinnFort: excuse me... for example, I'm trying to set my screen resolution, inside System Settings... there's a button with "Administrator Mode"... if I click it, it asks me a password... which password I give it?
[08:15] <soulrider_> p   realplay                                                                          - RealPlayer 10 for Linux is based on the open source Helix player.
[08:15] <Levo_75> No i386
[08:15] <Levo_75> I don't have a 64 bitc cpu
[08:15] <PhinnFort> halo: your user's password
[08:15] <jbaloul> i am trying to save stream in kaffeine and it seems to be brocken since this last upgrade
[08:15] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: ok
[08:15] <Photon> ohh
[08:16] <soulrider_> Levo_75: you want to install opera ?
[08:16] <Photon> it starts with p
[08:16] <Levo_75> Yes
[08:16] <soulrider_> install it from the repos
[08:16] <Levo_75> Yes i do
[08:16] <PhinnFort> ubuntu edgy?
[08:16] <Levo_75> repos? kubuntu
[08:16] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: i'll walk you through it
[08:16] <Levo_75> kubuntu 6.06 dapper drake
[08:16] <soulrider_> !repos | Levo_75
[08:16] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: do you use the old Dapper, the normal Edgy, or beta Feisty
[08:16] <PhinnFort> ?
[08:16] <ubotu> Levo_75: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:16] <PhinnFort> ok
[08:16] <Levo_75> Dapper drake ubotu i know
[08:17] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: follow the guide the bot posted
[08:17] <sep1318> Photon: search for realplayer, without the space
[08:17] <Yorokobi> Levo_75, have you looked through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[08:17] <Levo_75> Ok
[08:17] <soulrider_> Photon: real player si int he cannonical comemrcial repo, you can get a custom sources.list built for you with that repo
[08:17] <sep1318> it should be the only thing that shows
[08:17] <soulrider_> !easysource | Photon
[08:17] <ubotu> Photon: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:17] <Photon> THANKS ALOT
[08:17] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: after you've done that, then i will tell you how to install opera
[08:17] <sep1318> did that work?
[08:17] <Photon> i FOUND IT!!!
[08:18] <Photon> yup
[08:18] <soulrider_> awesome Photon!
[08:18] <Photon> THANKS FOR BOTH OF YOU
[08:18] <sep1318> schweet
[08:18] <sep1318> np
[08:18] <sep1318> :)
[08:18] <PhinnFort> sep1318: what happened september 1318?
[08:18] <Photon> ok then i want to make it the default player
[08:18] <Levo_75> Locate the .deb package and double click on it to start the Gdebi .deb installer.
[08:18] <PhinnFort> Photon: alt+f2 -> "kcontrol" -> enter
[08:18] <Levo_75> What now?
[08:18] <Levo_75> Gdebi.deb?
[08:18] <sep1318> he put the repo in right, but he was searching with the space, which doesn't pull up anything
[08:18] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: what did you do?
[08:19] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:19] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: scroll down to the commercial repos
[08:19] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu#head-9a7a4519857af012ff775e9c0f15fbce60173676
[08:19] <Photon> k
[08:19] <sep1318> cuz the space doesn't exist in the description either, apparently
[08:19] <jbaloul> is there a fix for recording a wmv stream with kaffeine?
[08:19] <PhinnFort> heh
[08:19] <Photon> yup
[08:20] <sep1318> silly companies and screwing up spelling for the generations to come.
[08:20] <PhinnFort> ;P
[08:20] <jhutchins> jbaloul: Try streamripper.
[08:20] <sep1318> exactly, phinn
[08:20] <Photon> PhinnFort: now what should i do to make it default
[08:20] <PhinnFort> Photon: did you go to control center?
[08:21] <Photon> yup
[08:21] <jbaloul> jhutchins will do thanks, so i assume that there isn't a fix for this in kaffeine
[08:21] <PhinnFort> Photon: search for "assoc"
[08:21] <jhutchins> jbaloul: Never could get kaffeine to run well for me, I don't bother with it.
[08:21] <PhinnFort> Photon: click on file associoations
[08:21] <ionus> someone tell me how i can play cs in kubuntu
[08:21] <PhinnFort> !cs
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <ionus> someone tell me how i can play cs in kubuntu
[08:21] <PhinnFort> !winegaming
[08:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about winegaming - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:21] <PhinnFort> !repeat | ionus
[08:21] <ionus> !cs
[08:21] <ubotu> ionus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:21] <Photon> k then
[08:22] <halo> so in this moment halo is a root?
[08:22] <ionus> counter strike on kubuntu
[08:22] <jbaloul> jhutchins, gotcha, thanks man
[08:22] <halo> I'm logged in my kde with a root user
[08:22] <PhinnFort> halo: you can say that, yes
[08:22] <ionus> i  can play cs on kub
[08:22] <ionus> ?
[08:22] <PhinnFort> halo: sudo means that your user can do certain stuff with root priviliges
[08:22] <jhutchins> halo: You shouldn't be, you especially shouldn't be running irc as root.
[08:22] <jhutchins> !sudo | halo
[08:22] <ubotu> halo: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:22] <PhinnFort> halo: su = switch user, sudo = switch user do
[08:22] <jhutchins> !kdesu | halo
[08:22] <ubotu> halo: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:23] <Photon> ....
[08:23] <PhinnFort> halo: probably
[08:23] <PhinnFort> i mean...
[08:23] <PhinnFort> ionus: probablyu
[08:23] <ionus> how
[08:23] <ionus> ?
[08:23] <jhutchins> !wine | ionus
[08:23] <ubotu> ionus: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:23] <PhinnFort> ionus: run the install program for steam
[08:23] <jhutchins> ionus: Start there.
[08:23] <PhinnFort> ionus: have you installed wine?
[08:23] <ionus> i haw instaled but no worc
[08:24] <ionus> i haw instaled but no work
[08:24] <Photon> how can i make it universal: i am inside file accos
[08:24] <PhinnFort> ionus: try running "winecfg"
[08:24] <ionus> and?
[08:24] <PhinnFort> ionus: does it work?
[08:24] <Photon> stop drinking wine :P :P
[08:24] <ionus> wait
[08:24] <Levo_75> Ah finally it's installing opera
[08:24] <PhinnFort> ionus: then download steam install, and then double click it, or right click, run with, type in "wine" and hit enter
[08:24] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: great!
[08:25] <PhinnFort> Photon: i think you have to do it manually
[08:25] <PhinnFort> Photon: but ask in #kde, they might know
[08:25] <Photon> okay...
[08:25] <Photon> Thanks everyone
[08:25] <Photon> bye
[08:25] <ionus> what
[08:25] <ionus> ?
[08:26] <PhinnFort> ionus: did winecfg run?
[08:26] <ionus> yes
[08:26] <PhinnFort> ionus: if it did, locate the install program for cs
[08:26] <sgumby> once i'm in textmode what should i do to install ?
[08:26] <PhinnFort> ionus: double click on it
[08:26] <ionus> ok wait
[08:26] <PhinnFort> sgumby: install what?
[08:26] <sgumby> kubuntu on my laptop
[08:26] <sgumby> from the live cd
[08:27] <ionus> i cant find it
[08:27] <ionus> ?
[08:27] <PhinnFort> ionus: can't find what?
[08:27] <ionus> isee only dick c
[08:27] <ionus> ?
[08:27] <ionus> only disk c
[08:27] <ionus> ?
[08:27] <PhinnFort> ionus: i don't understand
[08:27] <PhinnFort> where do you have the install stuff for cs?
[08:27] <ionus> isee only disk c:\\
[08:27] <jbaloul> jhutchins does streamripper do video? it seems to be choking
[08:27] <john_> hello from holland
[08:28] <Levo_75> Hoi john
[08:28] <PhinnFort> ionus: you on kubuntu?
[08:28] <ionus> yes
[08:28] <ionus> ?
[08:28] <john_> hai levo
[08:28] <ionus> yes
[08:28] <jhutchins> jbaloul: Hm, not sure.  I've only used it for audio.
[08:28] <ionus> 6.10
[08:28] <Levo_75> john do you happen to be a totsean?
[08:28] <PhinnFort> ionus: and what is C:?
[08:28] <aaroncampbell> I'm wondering if someone could lend me a hand building a printer driver.  Before I used redhat, and Konica Minolta supplies rpms (or .tar.gz http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ).  This is what I get when I try to ./configure : http://paste-bin.com/11319
[08:28] <jbaloul> yeah thats my problem...audio works , i need to save a wmv stream
[08:28] <aaroncampbell> I assume I need other packages installed, but I'm not sure what
[08:28] <aaroncampbell> There *is* a /debian directory in that .tar.gz, but it doesn't contain a .deb ...it has a couple Makefiles, etc...and I'm not sure what to do with it
[08:29] <jbaloul> and kaffeine used to work but now its breaking
[08:29] <ubuntu> What is the minimum harware for kubuntu ???
[08:29] <ionus> in wine cfg. i see only disc c: for exe location
[08:29] <PhinnFort> !requirements
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <jhutchins> jbaloul: Did you upgrade something?
[08:29] <Levo_75> Well all i need now is to install the mp3 sound codex
[08:29] <Levo_75> How do i do that?
[08:29] <ionus> in wine cfg. i see only disc c: for exe location
[08:29] <jbaloul> yeah...both edgy and feisty don't work....it used to work on dapper
[08:29] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: Requirements for what?
[08:30] <ionus> in wine cfg. i see only disc c: for exe location
[08:30] <jhutchins> jbrice_: Have you installed the stuff for the restricted formats?
[08:30] <jhutchins> jbaloul: ^
[08:30] <deviance> Ok, has this worked?
[08:30] <jbaloul> yeah i got everything...i can view just not save
[08:30] <PhinnFort> ionus: just close winecfg
[08:31] <PhinnFort> ionus: that was just to check that wine works
[08:31] <PhinnFort> sorry
[08:31] <ionus> ok
[08:31] <PhinnFort> ionus: use the normal file manager to locate it
[08:31] <jbaloul> this is the bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1242970&group_id=86937&atid=581406
[08:31] <ionus> how
[08:31] <jbaloul> was wondering if anyone had a fix yet?
[08:31] <ionus> i im new in linux
[08:31] <ionus> please tell me
[08:31] <PhinnFort> ionus: click on the little house
[08:31] <ionus> i im new in linux
[08:31] <ionus> please tell me
[08:31] <ionus> aha home
[08:31] <ionus> ?
[08:31] <PhinnFort> ionus: where have you placed your install?
[08:31] <PhinnFort> ionus: are you using steam?
[08:31] <Levo_75> I need help with getting mp3's to play
[08:32] <ionus>  /home/ionus
[08:32] <ionus> no
[08:32] <jhutchins> jbaloul: Might check in #kde
[08:32] <PhinnFort> ionus: double click on the install file in the file manager
[08:32] <PhinnFort> ok?
[08:32] <jhutchins> jbaloul: I have no idea, but VLC seems to be fairly versitile, it might be able to capture a video stream.
[08:32] <ionus> where
[08:32] <ionus> ?
[08:33] <PhinnFort> ionus: where you have your install file
[08:33] <jbaloul> jhutchins, PhinnFort told me to come here from the #kde channel :)
[08:33] <jhutchins> Heh.
[08:33] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:33] <jbaloul> can't figure out how to do it with vlc
[08:33] <ionus> wait
[08:33] <PhinnFort> jbaloul: i said go to the devs
[08:33] <ubuntu> requirements minimun
[08:33] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:33] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: Do you think it's a kubuntu specific bug?
[08:33] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: probably
[08:33] <PhinnFort> since i believe it came with a ubuntu minor version
[08:34] <ubuntu> requiremnet essential
[08:34] <ubuntu> 
[08:34] <PhinnFort> ubuntu6 to ubuntu7
[08:34] <ubuntu> ubuntu7
[08:34] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: 64megs of ram
[08:35] <ubuntu> and ptocessor
[08:35] <ubuntu> and processor
[08:35] <PhinnFort> 500 mhz, maybe?
[08:35] <jhutchins> jbaloul: http://geocities.com/majormms/
[08:35] <PhinnFort> !repeat | ubuntu
[08:35] <ubotu> ubuntu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:35] <ubuntu> thank you
[08:35] <PhinnFort> np
[08:35] <jhutchins> jbaloul: Or mplayer:
[08:35] <jhutchins> jbaloul: mplayer.exe -dumpstream mms://somehost.com/somedirectory/somefile.wmv
[08:36] <ionus>  <PhinnFort>?
[08:36] <PhinnFort> jbaloul: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Rip_Streams_With_MPlayer
[08:36] <PhinnFort> ionus: did you manage to find your install program?
[08:36] <ionus> hey
[08:36] <ionus> are u here
[08:36] <jbaloul> hmmm....thanks guys, i'll try those...will stick around to let you know
[08:36] <ionus> no please tell me step by step from the begining
[08:37] <PhinnFort> ionus: hit alt+f2 and type in ~
[08:37] <PhinnFort> and hit enter
[08:37] <ionus> what type?
[08:37] <ionus> what
[08:38] <Betzefer> sup guys ?
[08:38] <PhinnFort> ionus: press the buttons ALT and F2 simultanously
[08:38] <ionus> ok ai open
[08:38] <PhinnFort> ionus: then type in "~" in the box that pops up, and apply pressure to ENTER
[08:38] <PhinnFort> ionus: now you should see your home folder
[08:38] <ionus> done
[08:38] <ionus> yes i see
[08:38] <PhinnFort> ionus: do you see your install file?
[08:38] <ionus> yes
[08:38] <PhinnFort> double click it
[08:39] <PhinnFort> or single click, depends
[08:39] <PhinnFort> just run it
[08:39] <PhinnFort> mkay?
[08:39] <ionus> not open
[08:39] <ionus> its not open
[08:39] <ionus> this its my problem
[08:39] <PhinnFort> then right click, and select "open with"
[08:39] <PhinnFort> is wine there?
[08:39] <PhinnFort> if not, select "Other" and type in "wine" and hit enter
[08:40] <ionus> no i dont see wine
[08:40] <PhinnFort> then click "other"
[08:40] <ionus> mebe it is in subgrouops
[08:40] <ionus> no i can see
[08:40] <PhinnFort> ionus: select "Other" and type in "wine" and hit enter
[08:41] <ionus> wait
[08:41] <PhinnFort> ok
[08:41] <PhinnFort> i will
[08:41] <ionus> loading wine....
[08:41] <ionus> but no open
[08:42] <ionus> !!!
[08:42] <ionus> no work no eror
[08:42] <smile> hi linuxians .. how can i put grub in a floppy ?
[08:42] <ionus>  <PhinnFort>
[08:42] <ionus> ?
[08:42] <PhinnFort> ionus: click on the Window menu
[08:42] <PhinnFort> and "Show terminal emulator"
[08:42] <ionus> ok
[08:42] <smile> coz i will reinstall windows ..so i will lose grub
[08:42] <ionus> done
 i havee a same problem but with mplayer :\
[08:43] <PhinnFort> ionus: type in "wine" and the beginning of the file name of the install file, and hit "tab"
[08:43] <PhinnFort> and enter
[08:43] <ionus> i dont now i am new in kubuntu
[08:44] <chijin> smile: grub is easily recoverable
[08:44] <ionus> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\cs16full.exe": Module not foun
[08:44] <ionus> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\cs16full.exe": Module not found
[08:44] <smile> chijin: how ?
[08:44] <style> Hello everyone. I installed beryl on my kubuntu 7.04. My graficcard is a nvidia 7400 go. Since about 3 hours I'm tring to get the window decoretion to run but when I start beryl they cut out on me. I've addedOption "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" to my xorg.conf but no changes. dose somebody know a solution?
[08:44] <PhinnFort> ionus: type in "wine cs16full"
[08:44] <PhinnFort> and hit enter
[08:45] <chijin> smile: i've used the super grub boot disk many times and it works. google for it
[08:45] <ionus> Threads:
[08:45] <ionus> process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
[08:45] <ionus> 00000008 (D) Z:\home\ionus\cs16full.exe
[08:45] <PhinnFort> ionus: i think the installer you are using might be buggy
[08:45] <ionus> where i can found new instaler
[08:45] <ionus> >
[08:45] <ionus> ?
[08:45] <PhinnFort> ionus: you could try asking in #wine
[08:46] <smile> chijin: how to modify grub in kubuntu ?
[08:46] <PhinnFort> ionus: i only have experience with installing Steam
[08:46] <PhinnFort> smile: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:46] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:46] <ionus> what is steam
[08:46] <ionus> ?
[08:46] <PhinnFort> ionus: Steam is the program you use to buy and install CS and other games
[08:46] <ionus> i play cs on linux?
[08:47] <ionus> tell me with steam
[08:47] <ionus> please
[08:47] <PhinnFort> http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=240
[08:47] <PhinnFort> download and double click
[08:47] <smile> chijin: can i make a rescue floppy in kubuntu .. in Mandriva it's easy
[08:47] <ionus> ok wait 1min
[08:47] <chijin> !grub | smile
[08:47] <ubotu> smile: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:48] <Levo_75> What were the codecs i need for mp3 support?
[08:48] <ionus> but free :)
[08:48] <PhinnFort> !mp3 | Levo_75
[08:48] <ubotu> Levo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:48] <knapp> Problem, I can't play Mp3s. I've installed "libxine-extracodecs", been to the RestrictedFormats wiki page, read. Still cannot play Mp3's... Any ideas?
[08:48] <PhinnFort> ionus: borrow an account from someone, maybe?
[08:48] <PhinnFort> ionus: but ask in #wine, they might be able to help you with the errors you are getting
[08:49] <style> knapp: what application?
[08:49] <ionus> ok
[08:49] <knapp> amarok, totum, others.
[08:49] <knapp> VLC is the only app that will actually play mp3s
[08:49] <Chr1831> Hello
[08:49] <smile> PhinnFort: try to play mp3 in Amarok and it will install libxine-extra automaticlly
[08:49] <Chr1831> how can i make kde use double click?
[08:49] <ionus> thx
[08:49] <style> restartet amarok right?
[08:49] <knapp> style, yes many times :)
[08:49] <style> well you never know :)
[08:50] <PhinnFort> Chr1831: System Settings -> Mouse and KEyboard -> Mouse
[08:50] <style> here it worked that way just fine
[08:50] <PhinnFort> Chr1831: under "icons" on that page
[08:50] <jhutchins> knapp: Maybe you missed one of the steps from the Restricted Formats page.
[08:50] <style> x reboot
[08:51] <Chr1831> thanks :D
[08:51] <PhinnFort> np;)
[08:51] <PhinnFort> knapp: what engine is amarok using?
[08:51] <Chr1831> also how can i make window key + d = show desktop?
[08:51] <PhinnFort> knapp: make sure it utilises the xine engine
[08:51] <Arwen> Chr1831, in beryl?
[08:51] <jhutchins> knapp: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3
[08:51] <Chr1831> nope beryl + my computer + kubuntu 7.04 = not so good lol
[08:51] <PhinnFort> Chr1831: same place, just "Keybord Shortcuts"
[08:51] <knapp> Yeah, I have all of those installed :/
[08:52] <PhinnFort> Chr1831: search for "desktop"
[08:52] <PhinnFort> Chr1831: found it?
[08:52] <Chr1831> what ever happened to kcontrol?
[08:53] <Chr1831> yeah thanks :D
[08:54] <Levo_75> What repository do i go to for wine?
[08:55] <jbaloul> just got it...the only way it would work....  from cli:  vlc <url>--sout file/avi:filename.avi
[08:55] <PhinnFort> !info wine | Levo_75
[08:55] <Levo_75> Can i just give the filepath?
[08:55] <ubotu> levo_75: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[08:55] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: in universe
[08:55] <jbaloul> thanks guys for the direction
[08:55] <jbaloul> take care
[08:56] <Levo_75> Umz
[08:56] <Levo_75> How do i gain acces to universe?
[08:56] <PhinnFort> !universe
[08:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:57] <PhinnFort> wtf... the gnutella rfc has disappeared...
[08:57] <PhinnFort> or at least large parts of it
[08:58] <Arwen> zzz... hammered by updates again
[09:02] <PhinnFort> what is the recommended desktop search for KDE/Kubuntu?
[09:02] <PhinnFort> strigi?
[09:02] <PhinnFort> like beagle for gnome
[09:05] <PhinnFort> !beagle
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beagle - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <SSJ_GZ> PhinnFort: Strigi is now a dependency for KDE4, but I'm not sure how well it works for KDE3
[09:05] <Yorokobi> Note to self: Do *not* remove networkmanager remotely
[09:05] <PhinnFort> SSJ_GZ: one of the kde devs adviced for using beagle instead
[09:05] <SSJ_GZ> PhinnFort: Kerry is a KDE front-end to Beagle.
[09:06] <eric__> It works well for KDE3
[09:06] <PhinnFort> i know
[09:06] <SSJ_GZ> PhinnFort: Seriously?
[09:06] <PhinnFort> SSJ_GZ: in KDE 3, he said Beagle with Kerry probably was better
[09:06] <SSJ_GZ> PhinnFort: Oh right - that makes more sense =)
[09:06] <PhinnFort> yeah;(
[09:06] <PhinnFort> *;)
[09:07] <Photon> ok i have real player installed but i cant play anyfile
[09:07] <Photon> i have this error: Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.
[09:07] <Photon> everyother player is closed
[09:07] <Levo_75> So yeah i got the mp3 to work
[09:07] <Levo_75> Thanx guys
[09:08] <srecko> NAT doesnt work with my kubuntu anymore (after vmware-tools installation), please help me
[09:08] <Photon> so what should i do?
[09:09] <Erunno> Good evening all. Is it possible to make Konsole proxy-aware (like the gnome terminal) ?
[09:09] <PhinnFort> is it possible to install beagle without having to pull down half of gnome?
[09:09] <Photon> i have this error: Cannot open the audio device. Another application may be using it.
[09:09] <Photon> ok i have real player installed but i cant play anyfile
[09:09] <eco_> HELLO
[09:10] <Photon> hello
[09:10] <eco_> ALGUNA ME KIERE COMER LA POLLA
[09:10] <Photon> lol
[09:10] <eco_> Q DICES
[09:10] <Photon> ENGLISH ONLY
[09:10] <srecko> ubuntu-es
[09:10] <soulrider_> eco_: deja de decir esas cosas o llamo a un op
[09:10] <PhinnFort> !es
[09:10] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:11] <eco_> YESSSSSSSS
[09:11] <pappy_> hi all
[09:11] <eco_> HELLO M
[09:11] <pappy_> can someone help me with a problem i have with beryl?
[09:11] <eco_> ALGUN ESPAOL XAI
[09:11] <soulrider_> pappy_: maybe its better to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[09:11] <soulrider_> !es |eco
[09:11] <ubotu> eco: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:12] <pappy_> how i go there?
[09:12] <carrot_> trying to compile Xchat and get "configure:2454: error: C compiler cannot create executables".  since ubuntu didn't install gcc i had to do it manually with apt-get.  what else am i missing?
[09:12] <eco_> Q OS FOLLEN
[09:12] <PhinnFort> technikk`: i don't care
[09:12] <kiwi__> lol
[09:12] <soulrider_> just click on #ubuntu-effects
[09:12] <PhinnFort> :D
[09:12] <aaroncampbell> I'm wondering if someone could lend me a hand building a printer driver.  Before I used redhat, and Konica Minolta supplies rpms (or .tar.gz http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ).  This is what I get when I try to ./configure : http://paste-bin.com/11319
[09:12] <aaroncampbell> I assume I need other packages installed, but I'm not sure what
[09:12] <aaroncampbell> There *is* a /debian directory in that .tar.gz, but it doesn't contain a .deb ...it has a couple Makefiles, etc...and I'm not sure what to do with it
[09:12] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: You could try using alien to convert the rpm to a deb.
[09:12] <soulrider_> aaroncampbell: go int he debian directory and do make and see what happen
[09:13] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: use those makefiles when you make
[09:13] <jhutchins> !build | aaroncampbell
[09:13] <ubotu> aaroncampbell: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:13] <aaroncampbell> soulrider_: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[09:14] <soulrider_> uhn, dunno reallt, google and see if you can find a deb file for those drivers
[09:14] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I've built some things before, but I'm lost on the one dependency of this one: configure: error: Could not find liblcms.a
[09:15] <aaroncampbell> !packages
[09:15] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:15] <soulrider_> !find libcms
[09:15] <ubotu> Package/file libcms does not exist in edgy
[09:15] <Photon> #kds
[09:15] <aaroncampbell> !adept
[09:15] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:15] <Photon> #kde
[09:16] <carrot_> hmmm apt-get install build-essential.  that might be my problem.  i used apt-get install gcc.
[09:16] <soulrider_> build essential includes gcc and other compilers and tools
[09:16] <aaroncampbell> !find liblcms
[09:16] <ubotu> Found: liblcms1, liblcms1-dev, liblcms-utils
[09:16] <soulrider_> build-essential is better than just installing gcc
[09:16] <carrot_> hope so :)
[09:17] <carrot_> thanks
[09:17] <aaroncampbell> see, I h*have* liblcms1, but that's not good enough it seems
[09:17] <carrot_> gotta wait for the updates to complete before i can do it, though.  the packages dir is locked.
[09:18] <carrot_> has anyone gotten identd working under ubuntu?  most of the efnet servers i can connect to require a identd response, and although i have pidentd installed, it doesn't seem to work.  port 113 is forwarded because identd works in XP.
[09:20] <Arwen> carrot_, try oidentd
[09:20] <Arwen> it's easy enough to use
[09:21] <carrot_> Arwen: i have tried oidentd and still didn't work
[09:21] <Arwen> hmm, well, dunno - works for me
[09:22] <carrot_> using a how-to i found, i tried the troubleshooting and it works if i telnet to myself and do the ident query, but does not work from outside the lan
[09:25] <turner> hello
[09:29] <PhinnFort> how can i delete old kernels?
[09:29] <PhinnFort> they seem to clog up my /boot partitiob
[09:29] <PhinnFort> *partition
[09:30] <Levo_75> Umz format?
[09:30] <PhinnFort> hum?
[09:30] <fdoving> PhinnFort: remove the old kernel packages.
[09:30] <PhinnFort> what should i remove?
[09:31] <PhinnFort> and must i do it manually?
[09:31] <fdoving> PhinnFort: 'dpkg -l linux-image*
[09:31] <fdoving> '
[09:31] <PhinnFort> it's like 3 old
[09:31] <PhinnFort> does the modules disappear when i take down the images?
[09:31] <fdoving> yes.
[09:31] <PhinnFort> ok
[09:31] <fdoving> the packages with modules depend on the kernel-image.
[09:32] <PhinnFort> happy me
[09:32] <PhinnFort> this is weird...
[09:32] <PhinnFort> whenever i try to install something, i get this: "E: I wasn't able to locate file for the python-apt package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package."
[09:32] <PhinnFort> and then "E: Couldn't lock list directory..are you root?"
[09:32] <fdoving> find the packages you want to remove in the list produced by the command i gave you, then use 'aptitude remove list-of-kernel-images-to-remove' or 'apt-get remove list-of-kernel-images-to-remove'.
[09:32] <fdoving> PhinnFort: oh. nice.
[09:33] <fdoving> PhinnFort: so what does 'sudo dpkg -P python-apt'
[09:33] <fdoving> PhinnFort: do?
[09:33] <PhinnFort> it purges python-app
[09:33] <pollyo> PhinnFort: Are you using "sudo"
[09:33] <PhinnFort> or at least that's what it should
[09:33] <PhinnFort> pollyo: yeah
[09:34] <PhinnFort> dpkg: error processing python-apt (--purge):  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[09:34] <fdoving> PhinnFort: you might need to fore that with --force-all.. yeah, i'd try to 'sudo dpkg --force-depends -P python-apt && sudo apt-get -f install'
[09:34] <bud> tuz
[09:35] <bud> tux?
[09:35] <fdoving> PhinnFort: ok, it's in that state, then i'd go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the proper python-apt package download it manually and use 'dpkg -i <pkg>' to install it.
[09:35] <PhinnFort> i did a force-all, and it seems to have purged it
[09:36] <fdoving> PhinnFort: ok, then you can try to re-install it wiht 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[09:36] <PhinnFort> doing it now
[09:38] <malcher> i'm trying to install the sun jre on my system... but during the install adept shows me (when clicking on "show details") a console window within itself with some eula i have to agree to... the problem is i can't enter anything into that window... :/ does somebody know how i could fix that?
[09:38] <bud> how does one do away with unencrypted noticeson email?
[09:38] <Yorokobi> malcher, don't use adept to install the Sun Java packages
[09:39] <malcher> Yorokobi: instead? apt-get?
[09:39] <Yorokobi> malcher, yep. Or synaptic or dselect
[09:39] <fdoving> malcher: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#head-489a0f56b430f0162fead679b5d72f41ce7a3976
[09:39] <malcher> ...okay, than i'll do that. tnx Yorokobi
[09:40] <Yorokobi> malcher, its probably already downloaded so you can go to /var/cache/apt/archives and 'sudo dpkg -i <package>
[09:40] <Yorokobi> '
[09:40] <malcher> ah thank you fdoving
[09:40] <fdoving> you're welcome :)
[09:42] <voicu> a command for viewing the installed users?
[09:42] <voicu> nvm
[09:44] <bud> please help unencrypt my email
[09:44] <Yorokobi> bud, how is it encrypted? PGP?
[09:44] <bud> I don't know
[09:45] <bud> PGP is unknown to me
[09:45] <matthew_> bud, who encrypted it?
[09:46] <Yorokobi> bud, most encryption methods throw a header at the beginning identifying what encrypted it, the version, etc.
[09:46] <bud> I am the only one using this computer
[09:47] <bud> I'll have to check next time I do email
[09:47] <sgumby> ROT-13
[09:48] <voicu> i reinstate the question :D, command to see what users are installed/added/whatever?
[09:48] <Yorokobi> voicu, you can look at /etc/passwd
[09:49] <Yorokobi> voicu, or 'ls /home'
[09:49] <voicu> well, there might be users with the home somewhere else
[09:49] <fdoving> voicu: 'getent passwd'
[09:50] <Yorokobi> voicu, or Kmenu -> System Settings -> User Management
[09:50] <voicu> yeah but i need to administrate users through ssh
[09:51] <voicu> i could try to use ssh -X but it's slow as hell
[09:51] <Levo_75> Is wine in universe?
[09:51] <Yorokobi> !info wine
[09:51] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[09:51] <Levo_75> With the !
[09:51] <Levo_75> ?
[09:52] <Levo_75> I have the .deb installation file
[09:52] <Levo_75> What now?
[09:53] <Black_Cat> Levo_75: click it :)
[09:53] <Yorokobi> Levo_75, where are you getting the debs? Are you downloading them from the web or are you using a package manager (Adept/Aptitude/Synaptic/dselect)?
[09:55] <voicu> if i change the entry in /etc/shadow the password will change, right? it's the only place the hash is
[09:55] <voicu> ?
[09:56] <fdoving> voicu: i don't recommend editing /etc/shadow by hand, but yes.
[09:56] <Yorokobi> voicu, why would you manually change /etc/shadow?
[09:56] <Yorokobi> sudo passwd username
[09:56] <voicu> it's just that i want to disable the ftp user from login... writing ! instead of the hash
[09:56] <voicu> that's all
[09:57] <Yorokobi> voicu, edit /etc/passwd and change /bin/(ba)sh to /bin/falselogin
[09:57] <fdoving> voicu: atleast use 'vipw -s' to edit the file.
[09:57] <Yorokobi> er, /bin/false or /bin/nologin
[09:57] <fdoving> voicu: you can lock the password, 'passwd -l username'
[09:58] <fdoving> Yorokobi, voicu, instead of editing /etc/passwd to change the shell, use 'chsh username'
[09:58] <bud> email has no encryption ID about it
[09:58] <fdoving> voicu: to unlock the password: 'passwd -u username'
[09:58] <voicu> hehe, thanks for the suggestions
[09:58] <Yorokobi> fdoving, huh ... learn something new every day :)
[09:58] <voicu> but it's too late
[09:59] <voicu> locking the password means no login?
[09:59] <voicu> or the password can't change?
[09:59] <whegge> Hello everyone.  Hoping someone here can help me.  I am looking for the snmpwalk command.  I have installed tinysnmpwalk but I have a problem with tinysnmp.  The problem is that tinysnmpwalk only uses SNMP v1.  The product I am attempting to use this on only know version 2.  Any ideas where I can get the orignal snmp-tools deb file that will work on feisty?
[10:00] <cox377> why when i minimize azureus into the task bar do i get a white square opposed to the azureus icon?
[10:00] <voicu> cox377: java bug probably, happens to me too
[10:01] <voicu> might i suggest ktorrent? it's lighter, reliable and maybe faster
[10:01] <cox377> voicu: anyway of fixing it?
[10:01] <apokryphos> ktorrent's awesome
[10:01] <cox377> gonna try it now
[10:02] <fdoving> whegge: get the 'snmp' package.
[10:03] <cox377> another thing, does anyone here use thunderbird?
[10:03] <Yorokobi> cox377, yes
[10:04] <voicu> cox377: i think it would be complicated to fix, who knows how many things you have to fix in kicker or java or something like that
[10:04] <cox377> or any applicatio, that when shown along the bottom only has an "X inbox - Thunderbird" opposed to having an icon like say firefox does
[10:05] <carrot_> configure: error: "Cannot find glib" <- what am i missing now?
[10:05] <fdoving> that's because kicker doesn't find a icon matching the app-name in /usr/share/icons/
[10:05] <fdoving> cox377: ^^
[10:05] <voicu> maybe thunderbird didn't set an icon and defaulted to the X icon
[10:05] <carrot_> apt-get install glib finds nothing
[10:05] <Levo_75> How do i installed do wine in kubuntu 6.06 dapper drake?
[10:05] <Tm_T> !wine | Levo_75
[10:06] <ubotu> Levo_75: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:06] <fdoving> carrot_: you need the -dev packages, libglib2.0-dev or libglib1.2-dev depending on the major-version you want.
[10:06] <whegge> fdoving:  Thanks!  Not sure why I could not find that package to begin with.
[10:06] <voicu> carrot_: the package is libglib2.0-dev
[10:07] <cox377> fdoving: is that responce to the question aboiut thunderbird for example?
[10:07] <fdoving> cox377: general response to the X icons issue for any app, yes.
[10:08] <carrot_> voicu: thanks
[10:08] <cox377> fdoving: ok, how do i find out the icon name that the app is looking for?
[10:08] <sayers> Are there any Ubuntu apps where you can burn lets say a Console game to make a backup?
[10:09] <carrot_> ah finally configure worked
[10:09] <carrot_> thanks
[10:09] <fdoving> cox377: i'm not sure. is this thunderbird?
[10:10] <cox377> uyup
[10:10] <fdoving> cox377: hang on, i'll install it and test.. then give you feedback.
[10:11] <cox377> fdoving: lol mate iu wouldn't go to that much trouble
[10:11] <cox377> cheers anyway
[10:11] <fdoving> cox377: it's not trouble, i'll learn something :)
[10:12] <cox377> :)
[10:13] <fdoving> cox377: do you have /usr/share/app-install/icons/mozilla-thunderbird.png or /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-thunderbird.png ?
[10:13] <pollyo_> Anyone know why I might be getting an error from mysql? Something about socks?
[10:13] <pollyo_> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[10:13] <pollyo_> Could it be a guarddog setting?
[10:14] <fdoving> pollyo_: guarddog doesn't block socket connections.
[10:14] <pollyo_> fdoving: OK.  Thanks.
[10:14] <Yorokobi> pollyo_, its looking for a unix socket, not a TCP/UDP connection. ^^^
[10:14] <fdoving> cox377: i belive the icon name should reflect the name on the binary used to execute the program, mozilla-thunderbird.png in this case.
[10:15] <pollyo_> Yorokobi: I wish that made sense to me.
[10:15] <iakopo_> ciao a tutti
[10:16] <cox377> fdoving: yeh i have the latter
[10:17] <cox377> "/usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-thunderbird.png ?"
[10:17] <Yorokobi> pollyo_, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2233137
[10:17] <fdoving> cox377: the latter is used for for example the kmenu -> run command dialog. (if you write mozilla-thunderbird into it you'll see the icon).
[10:18] <pollyo_> Yorokobi: Thank you.  Bringing the page up now.
[10:18] <jnowka> hello
[10:19] <jnowka> I have a question about my laptop touchpad
[10:21] <pollyo_> Yorokobi: Looks like it would help if I installed the server.
[10:21] <Yorokobi> pollyo_, lol
[10:21] <pollyo_> lol
[10:22] <jnowka> Everytime I turn it on, it brings up the KDE Help Center.  I have checked the shortcut key for the Help Menu and it shows that it is not assigned any buttons.
[10:22] <avvalon> Can someone explain to me how I could start a remote desktop session to a computer I only have SSH access too right now?
[10:24] <cox377> is there a command to show hdd usage / freespace?
[10:24] <Yorokobi> cox377, df
[10:24] <cox377> avvalon: is it a linux machine?
[10:24] <PF-Away> df -h
[10:25] <cox377> thats a good command, it takes so long if you right click on the drive, properties then calculate
[10:26] <PF-Away> i think there's a program called kdf, for KDE
[10:26] <cox377> PF-Away: whats kdf?
[10:26] <PF-Away> cox377: the "df" command for KDE
[10:26] <PF-Away> i think
[10:27] <fdoving> !kdf
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <avvalon> Yes cox :nods:
[10:27] <PF-Away> !info kdf
[10:27] <ubotu> kdf: disk space utility for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 964 kB
[10:27] <fdoving> kdf is in kdeutils, it's a disk space utility.
[10:27] <cox377> PF-Away: lol already have it installed
[10:27] <carrot_> "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl" during a compile.  what do i need to do?  perl is installed.
[10:27] <q_> L
[10:27] <fdoving> carrot_: try to get libperl-dev
[10:27] <Levo_75> I still can't figure out how to install things in kubuntu without adept
[10:28] <fdoving> Levo_75: anything special you want to install?
[10:28] <Levo_75> Yes
[10:28] <Levo_75> Frostwire
[10:28] <fdoving> !frostwire | levo_75
[10:28] <Levo_75> And flash plugins
[10:28] <ubotu> levo_75: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:28] <fdoving> !flash | levo_75
[10:28] <ubotu> levo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <PF-Away> !flash | Levo_75
[10:28] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[10:28] <ubotu> Levo_75: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:28] <PF-Away> :P
[10:29] <Levo_75> Hehe
[10:29] <PF-Away> fdoving: paper, rock, scissors?
[10:29] <PF-Away> next time
[10:29] <fdoving> heh :)
[10:30] <jnowka>  Everytime I turn on my touchpad, it brings up the KDE Help Center.  I have checked the shortcut key for the Help Menu and it shows that it is not assigned any buttons.
[10:30] <fdoving> the default shortcut to khelpcenter is F1.
[10:31] <avvalon> Is that possbile? TO use ssh to view the Gui?
[10:31] <Yorokobi> avvalon, yes. The SSH server needs to allow X11 forwarding, though
[10:31] <fdoving> avvalon: yes, do you need a full blown desktop or does it do with just one and one application?
[10:31] <Yorokobi> ... and X running on the server :)
[10:31] <jnowka> Yes, but I have a special button to turn on my touchpad, but each time I turn on my touchpad it brings up KHelpCenter.  The button is not F1
[10:32] <Apollo^101> isnt there an easy way. (may be by package manager) to install the latest kernel?
[10:32] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, which "latest kernel" are you looking for?
[10:33] <fdoving> jnowka: please report a bug with that. and give me the bugnumber. i'll contact our special-keys-guru.
[10:33] <jnowka> ok will do, will you be here in an hour?
[10:34] <jnowka> how do you put in a bug report?
[10:34] <fdoving> Apollo^101: if you just update regularily you will get the latest kernel available for your release. if you mean the latest kernel from kernel.org, no, there is no easy way to get that. ubuntu-kernels are slightly modified to fit our needs better than the kernel.org kernels does by default.
[10:35] <fdoving> jnowka: go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs - find "Report a bug" and follow the instructions.
[10:35] <fdoving> jnowka: you might need to register to launchpad first.
[10:36] <fdoving> i belive you will get instructions on how to do that on the page.
[10:36] <fdoving> if not please ask.
[10:36] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, 2.6.20
[10:36] <Powerking89670> Does anyone know how to get araroK to play files off an ipod?
[10:36] <melkor> I just had a copy of feisty fail, so I partitioned my hard drive and put edgy back on.  After I back up my data, can I use rm -R on my old partition
[10:36] <Apollo^101> fdoving, you mean i have to compile my own. any easy way?
[10:36] <Powerking89670> I mean, It says it SHOULD, but it doesnt since all the files are mp3
[10:37] <fdoving> Apollo^101: may I ask why you do need a fresh from kernel.org kernel in the first place?
[10:37] <noaXess> how do i clear the swap space, cause i think any app would allways fill my swap space?
[10:37] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: did you install libxine-extracodecs from the Multiverse?
[10:37] <Powerking89670> no...
[10:37] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, my system auto-mounts my ipod (4th gen) to /media/ipod ... I had to open Amarok then manually add the files from the ipod to the amarok playlist
[10:38] <fdoving> noaXess: you don't clear the swapspace, that's handled by the kernel, if your swapspace is full there is probably some application leaking memory.
[10:38] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670, amarok requires those to play mp3s
[10:38] <Apollo^101> fdoving, the latest is always the greatest
[10:38] <terran4000> Hey all. Does anyone have any problems with raid (Linux raid autodetect partitions) in Feisty?
[10:38] <Powerking89670> Can I get them off the Adept Manager?
[10:38] <Tm_T> noaXess: why you need to clear swap?
[10:38] <Stormzoeker> goodevenig everyone
[10:38] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, if its build correctly
[10:38] <Yorokobi> s/build/built/
[10:38] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: of course, when multiverse repo is enabled
[10:39] <noaXess> fdoving: i think, on ech reboot, my hd run's over.. for 2 minutes.. reading and reading.. and then all is ok..
[10:39] <Powerking89670> which is done how?
[10:39] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, hmm. so can i build it
[10:39] <Apollo^101> ?
[10:39] <Tm_T> noaXess: swap is "erased" in shutdown so ...
[10:40] <Powerking89670> im new to having to do a million tihngs to get one something to work correctly so bear with me :-/
[10:40] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, can, yes. Want to, though? I haven't built my own kernel since I switched to Ubuntu from Debian.
[10:40] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, ... and started using grub instead of LILO
[10:41] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: choose "Manage repositories" from Adept menu, you will get a content of  /etc/apt/sources.list file. You should check all the uncommented lines ending with universe, and click this word to add a space and a multiverse word
[10:41] <Black_Cat> it looks like this for me: deb http://debian.charite.de/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[10:41] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, which kernel are you using right now?
[10:41] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, the latest one for my release.
[10:42] <noaXess> hm.. ok just a reboot
[10:42] <Black_Cat> of course you can edit the file itself, using Alt-F2 and type: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:42] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, which, in the case of my current workstation, is edgy (2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP)
[10:42] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: hope this helps
[10:43] <Powerking89670> It does (I think) lemme follow my instinct :p
[10:43] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: end when you perform "Fetch updates", enter search filter libxine-extracodecs, they should be there
[10:43] <Powerking89670> Im fetching now :D
[10:44] <Black_Cat> :)
[10:44] <unix_infidel> anyone here done an feisty alpha to beta upgrade with dist-upgrade and noticed any problems?
[10:44] <sparrw> whats a good gui diff tool that can handle remote files (sftp specifically) and can do per-line merging?
[10:44] <Black_Cat> (i discovered that stuff for myself 2 days ago, so it's fresh and hot in memory :))
[10:44] <jhutchins> !away > technikk`
[10:45] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, iam using the same
[10:45] <Powerking89670> I tried libxine but didnt see one that looked anyware similar to libxine-extracodecs
[10:45] <q_> ,
[10:45] <Yorokobi> sparrw, hsftp
[10:45] <Powerking89670> I seen some libxine
[10:45] <Apollo^101> ok
[10:45] <fdoving> jnowka: more info on how we can resolve your problem is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuLaptopKeycodes
[10:45] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: maybe you didn't have multiverse yet
[10:46] <melkor> is the 2.6.20-13 kernel a stable release?
[10:46] <terran4000> melkor: works fine for me on my laptop ... but breaks on my desktop
[10:46] <Apollo^101> does any body knows when kubuntu fiesty (non beta) the reall final one, will be released?
[10:47] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, sometime this month
[10:47] <Powerking89670> I see libxine-main
[10:47] <Yorokobi> probably
[10:47] <jnowka> fdoving are you still here
[10:47] <fdoving> jnowka: yes.
[10:47] <jnowka> the bug-report is #102558
[10:47] <fdoving> jnowka: ok. thanks.
[10:47] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: can you pastebin you sources.list? maybe somekinda problem there
[10:47] <jnowka> fdoving: np
[10:47] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, are you sure?
[10:48] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, the version is 7.04. 04 for April, 7 for 2007
[10:48] <melkor> my laptop went down with feisty, and I think I got that kernel from the unstable repositories
[10:48] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, ok. how will i be able to upgrade to fiesty if i am using edgy 6.10?   through live cd?
[10:48] <Powerking89670> hold on Black_Cat
[10:48] <Powerking89670> gimme a sec
[10:48] <jnowka> I have got to get to class, ty for your help
[10:49] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: i'm not going anywhere withing next couple of hours
[10:49] <terran4000> melkor: heh, from what I have seen. the newest feisty kernel is pretty good ... except it lacks support for some slightly older hardware (like my motherboard)
[10:49] <Black_Cat> :)
[10:49] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade (for now)
[10:49] <carrot_> thanks for the help.  things are compiling nicely now.
[10:49] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, that may change when feisty is actually released.
[10:49] <Powerking89670> http://www.swgemods.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20070403164929-2963
[10:50] <chr1831> how can i let knetworkmanager use my wallet without my password everyboot?
[10:50] <melkor> terran4000, what is the latest feisty kernel?
[10:50] <terran4000> Yorokobi: I wouldn't recommend upgrading to feisty from stable on slightly older hardware ... no offense ment.
[10:50] <terran4000> melkor: latest? no idea ... I just use whatever the repo's have. .13 I think
[10:51] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, no. i dont want to upgrade by internet. i prefer by cd. if i corrupt my installation. i could reinstall any time by c
[10:51] <Apollo^101> cd
[10:51] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, dunno
[10:51] <chr1831> anyone?
[10:51] <Powerking89670> I aggree Apollo. I always feel good knowing I have my LiveCDs :D
[10:51] <Apollo^101> ok
[10:51] <Thalanox> Does feisty have Beryl pre-installed on it?
[10:51] <chr1831> not yet?
[10:51] <fdoving> jnowka: can you please try to follow this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HotkeyResearch ?
[10:51] <Thalanox> liveCDs are fun.
[10:52] <melkor> terran4000, so do I, but I included the unstable repository to try and get madwifi and then I had a couple hundred new updates
[10:52] <Powerking89670> liveCDs make my job at annoying my IT's at school so much easier
[10:52] <Thalanox> I've got around 4. 5 if you count the ubuntu and kubuntu as different
[10:52] <Powerking89670> if they are dumb enough to leave the bios unpassworded and ready to boot to disk before HD. I see it as my right to boot to Kubuntu in school :D
[10:52] <melkor> terran4000, I think that is what killed my computer, I put an unstable kernel on...
[10:53] <Powerking89670> Black_Cat: In case you missed it
[10:53] <Powerking89670> http://www.swgemods.com/paste/viewp.php?id=20070403164929-2963
[10:53] <terran4000> melkor: including the unstable repo's will do that. The stable repos are ... well, stable! Thus they won't kill your computer. Unstable are generally usable but are bug prone and can easily break something
[10:54] <Powerking89670> I love breaking things. Windows was always made of glass and I was always throwing rocks :D
[10:54] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: sorry, i did miss it. checking it now...
[10:54] <Powerking89670> its cool
[10:54] <Powerking89670> :D
[10:54] <Powerking89670> it was my fault
[10:54] <terran4000> unstable repos have constant updates to them. It's kinda like: "OHH! I fixed this lets submit it!" Unstable isn't well tested and it's sometimes just a quick patch
[10:54] <melkor> I have two bootable partitions now, I don't want one to be a bootable partition.
[10:55] <Mynthon> http://www.voinaroz.lv/?auk=2i1i18g2oxz
[10:55] <melkor> can I just delete the files off of it?
[10:55] <terran4000> two bootable partitions? you mean you have two partitions with two os'es installed on em?
[10:56] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: multiverse was NOT enabled
[10:56] <chr1831> can i have knetworkmanager use the wallet without the password?
[10:56] <melkor> one is fiesty, that broke...and the other is fiesty that I just installed.
[10:56] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: make sure every adept instance including apt-get is not working
[10:56] <Powerking89670> really?
[10:56] <Black_Cat> and fix this file manually
[10:56] <melkor> I didn't want to erase all of my data.
[10:57] <jhutchins> melkor: Just don't boot to it.
[10:57] <Powerking89670> can u paste me what it SHOULD look like?
[10:57] <fdoving> chr1831: not without the wallet password, no.
[10:57] <Powerking89670> because I dont see how I enable/disable things in the file
[10:57] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: you added it in some places, but the thing is - you missed really important places
[10:57] <chr1831> im tired of typing in my password every login.......
[10:57] <melkor> I want to tie up the loose ends though.
[10:57] <terran4000> melkor: you can also just remove the line from /boot/grub/menu.lst that boots to that
[10:57] <Powerking89670> I used Adept to Enable/Disable
[10:58] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: check the line "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe"
[10:58] <Yorokobi> chr1831, security is not convenient all the time
[10:58] <chr1831> i don't care about security :)
[10:58] <fdoving> chr1831: that's kinda the idea behind the wallet.
[10:58] <chr1831> (when it comes to my wep key)
[10:58] <Apollo^101> thanks all
[10:58] <Yorokobi> chr1831, use windows
[10:58] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: this one will be enough to make things right.
[10:58] <chr1831> i mean i care but i don't care :D
[10:59] <chr1831> cant i just give kwifimanager my password and it access it without asking me?
[10:59] <melkor> Damn when I did the feisty update with only the standard repositories uncommented it was 1/3 of the d/load size.
[11:00] <fdoving> chr1831: try. i'm not sure it's that easy. maybe kwlan can do that. not sure.
[11:00] <Yorokobi> chr1831, if its WEP (and not WPA) then, yes. You can keep knetworkmanager "offline" and use wlassistant
[11:00] <Powerking89670> ok, but how exactly do I uncomment it IE what makes it a comment
[11:00] <Yorokobi> chr1831, which does not use the wallet
[11:00] <chr1831> its wpa :D
[11:00] <fdoving> Powerking89670: a # at the beginning of the line makes the line a comment.
[11:01] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: it is not commented now, just add multiverse word after the universe word in the end
[11:02] <Yorokobi> chr1831, you could configure/use wpa_supplicant then kwifimanager ... good luck though. It took me two hours to get it working
[11:02] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: it's Enable/Disable right-click menu option in Adept.
[11:02] <Black_Cat> (uncomment/comment respectively)
[11:02] <bud> fdoving,how do I encrypt my email
[11:03] <Yorokobi> !info kgpg
[11:03] <ubotu> kgpg: GnuPG frontend for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 445 kB, installed size 1404 kB
[11:04] <Yorokobi> !info kgpg > bud
[11:04] <Yorokobi> bud, that's one way
[11:04] <fdoving> bud, checkout kmenu -> run command, input 'help:/kmail/pgp.html' and run.
[11:04] <livingdaylight> I came across this site http://www.undergroundsatellite.com/index-2.html its about having sattelite televion through one's computer using their software, but Alas, it is for windows users only AGAIN. I wondered if there is any way I can as a Linux user also get Sattelite televsion through my computer?
[11:05] <Powerking89670> yay it worked thanks Black_Cat :D
[11:06] <Black_Cat> PupenoR: glad to help. you can't imagine the extent i was happy to when i heard mp3 playing :)
[11:06] <Black_Cat> sorry
[11:06] <fdoving> livingdaylight: do a search for satellite on packges.ubuntu.com , we don't support underground activities though.
[11:06] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670:  glad to help. you can't imagine the extent i was happy to when i heard mp3 playing :)
[11:06] <Powerking89670> I imagine ill be the same :d
[11:06] <terran4000> "Need to get 103MB of updates ... 1003KB will be fried" heh, I love debian ^^
[11:06] <Powerking89670> ive been lost without my music!
[11:07] <Levo_75> In what repository is wine?
[11:07] <Powerking89670> Sweet, it works :D
[11:07] <Yorokobi> terran4000, fried or freed?
[11:07] <Powerking89670> I love this channel :p
[11:07] <terran4000> haha >< both work :-)
[11:07] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: well i've converted 100+ tracks to .ogg and survived the silence :)
[11:07] <Powerking89670> I love everyone who helped me :D
[11:07] <Levo_75> You have to buy a ticket for this channel though
[11:07] <livingdaylight> fdoving: lol, the site is called undergroundsattelite.. not sure why...but basically it is to do with being able to get satttelite tv via a pc. HAve we got that in Linux?
[11:08] <Powerking89670> I dont personally like .ogg
[11:08] <livingdaylight> fdoving: i thought Linux was an underground activity? :D
[11:08] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> livingdaylight: all you need is a tv tuner
[11:08] <Yorokobi> Levo_75, wine is part of the universe repo
[11:08] <Powerking89670> One step closer in my quest to bring down the M$
[11:08] <fdoving> livingdaylight: no idea, probably. have you tried to search google? linux is on top of the world,  not underground at all :)
[11:08] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> livingdaylight: a tv tuner and a reciever near by
[11:08] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i watch satellite tv all the time on my nix box
[11:08] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: but it's supported in (k)ubuntu by default. opensource roxx.
[11:08] <Levo_75> Yorokobi how do i install it?
[11:09] <livingdaylight> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: but this particular software has over 1000 channels from 84 coutnries
[11:09] <Levo_75> I have the .deb in my filesystem
[11:09] <Black_Cat> and .ogg files are generally smaller than .mp3 of the same quality.
[11:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> livingdaylight: oh, if you're looking for specific software that may be different
[11:09] <matthew_> can you hear me?
[11:09] <fdoving> livingdaylight: then there is probably nothing similar for linux.
[11:09] <Powerking89670> Yes
[11:09] <fdoving> matthew_: yes, we can.
[11:09] <melkor> me?
[11:09] <Powerking89670> we can hear you matthew_
[11:09] <Yorokobi> Levo_75, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[11:09] <Powerking89670> melkor we can hear you too :p
[11:09] <matthew_> thanks...our internet access is down right now...I'm thinking it's the DNS servers
[11:09] <Powerking89670> Wine is not difficult to install. I did it and I am a nooblet
[11:10] <matthew_> cause obviously I can talk to you all
[11:10] <fdoving> matthew_: you can try 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 as backups. easy to remember.
[11:10] <matthew_> ok,thanks
[11:10] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670, btw - how much MBs to download for Wine to be installed?
[11:11] <Yorokobi> !info wine > Black_Cat
[11:11] <matthew_> fdoving, have you heard of openDNS?
[11:11] <Powerking89670> Im not sure It makes u add an entry to Adept
[11:11] <fdoving> matthew_: yes, briefly.
[11:11] <Powerking89670> I can look
[11:12] <Black_Cat> Yorokobi, thanks i have the link already :)
[11:12] <Powerking89670> Ive thought about helping wine. believe it or not I can crack formats in my sleep
[11:12] <Black_Cat> just 9Mb. cool.
[11:12] <Powerking89670> says 42M install size
[11:12] <Powerking89670> im assumeing thas MB
[11:13] <Black_Cat> Powerking89670: it's the installation size on HDD, not the download MBs :)
[11:13] <terran4000> damn you beryl! tempting me so
[11:13] <Powerking89670> yes I know
[11:13] <Powerking89670> well 42M tarballed is like what. 31?
[11:14] <terran4000> depends what's in it
[11:14] <Powerking89670> im assuming the download is in tarball
[11:14] <halo> apt-get install msttcorefonts
[11:14] <halo> doesn't work!
[11:14] <Black_Cat> plaintext may be tarballed even with better ratio :)
[11:14] <fdoving> halo: chekc that you have the multiverse repository enabled.
[11:14] <fdoving> !multiverse | halo
[11:14] <ubotu> halo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:15] <Powerking89670> Im sure its on www.winehq.org lemme look
[11:15] <Powerking89670> ....if FF will open it
[11:15] <Powerking89670> of cource I use .org and its .com
[11:15] <Black_Cat> and if it won't than the site isn't worth it :)
[11:15] <Black_Cat> ah
[11:16] <Powerking89670> Must be down or something
[11:16] <Powerking89670> it wont load....
[11:16] <halo> if I click on Adept in the menubar I have only the exit option!
[11:16] <Powerking89670> this is the part where I would normally suspect winsock, but that cant be right :p
[11:16] <jager> so i tried feisty earlier today
[11:16] <jager> it loaded but my keyboard completely didn't work at all
[11:16] <jager> any clues as to why that may be?
[11:16] <jager> reverted to edgy for the nonce
[11:17] <jager> its a standard ps2 jobby
[11:17] <melkor> my mouse/sound card/wireless card stopped working.
[11:17] <Black_Cat> jager: /etc/X11/xorg.conf i bet
[11:17] <jager> yar wifi stopped was well
[11:17] <melkor> which kernel are you using?
[11:17] <halo> I don't have Manage repositories while clicking on Adept in the menubar... +_+
[11:17] <terran4000> feisty has too many issues for me to use it on something that I 'need'
[11:18] <jager> on edgy?  2.6.17-10-generic
[11:18] <mauro> halo: did you just install ?
[11:18] <mauro> terran4000: feisty is still beta :P
[11:18] <fdoving> halo: what about the view menu?
[11:18] <jager> the disk i had was one of the release cantidates for edgy from many moons ago
[11:18] <jager> updating now
[11:19] <soulrider> lol, jager , isnt it better to just download a new iso ?
[11:19] <jager> also tried sabayon (gentoo) just for kicks and i couldn't get wifi working there either
[11:19] <halo> it's in Italian, I can try a translation, there's "Review modification"
[11:19] <terran4000> haha, I know it's beta ... but they stil didn't fix the raid issue, and they managed to remove drivers for my network cards. I'm currently going to Arch linux on my desktop
[11:19] <jager> well i would have but i didn't have net access in either sabayon or feisty
[11:19] <melkor> jager, I need madwifi to get wireless working
[11:19] <jager> and no other PC
[11:19] <halo> I checked the box with "unsupported software" and "proprietary software"
[11:19] <soulrider> terran4000: right now im on Arch
[11:19] <gae> sorry guys, need some hand with wine and possibly the attention of a person enough for a PM
[11:19] <malcher> ah thank you fdoving
[11:20] <halo> and now I can see mstruetype-..
[11:20] <gae> don't worry, no porno
[11:20] <malcher> oops :P
[11:20] <soulrider> terran4000: the people on IRC seem to be mostly a55holes though
[11:20] <malcher> whrong shell
[11:20] <jager> problem was no wifi and thus no way to research fixes on sabayon, similarly on feisty but with the added problem of no keyboard
[11:20] <soulrider> terran4000: my fonts look kinda weird on arch though
[11:20] <soulrider> some sites are unreadable
[11:20] <jager> i've never had a linux fail to use a ps2 keyboard
[11:20] <terran4000> soulrider: haha, great .... well, I just want it to work and some 'new-ish' features and be costumized for my desktop
[11:21] <soulrider> terran4000: you are aware you have to install everything right ?
[11:21] <terran4000> soulrider: as long as Arch works (functionally), I can deal with the looks later
[11:21] <soulrider> even xorg
[11:21] <terran4000> soulrider: yeah, not a problem
[11:21] <soulrider> oh, i suggest
[11:21] <soulrider> copy the kubuntu corg.conf
[11:21] <soulrider> save it to use on arch
[11:21] <soulrider> i couldnt do it myself, so i copied my kubuntu config over
[11:21] <soulrider> :P
[11:21] <terran4000> soulrider: I started out with pure beg ages ago
[11:22] <soulrider> oh, i see
[11:22] <terran4000> lol, yeah. I'm saving a lot of config data now.
[11:22] <gae> Sorry if I repeat, I need a hand with wine, anybody knows it but good?
[11:22] <soulrider> ive been using linux for less than a year
[11:22] <soulrider> gae all i know is i can use it to load utorrent :P
[11:22] <terran4000> only reason I went to kubuntu was because I'm tired of configuring EVERY thing my self in linux and kubuntu seemed to mostly do things for me. Though beryl sucked and I wanted it ^^
[11:22] <soulrider> maybe if you ask in #wine ?
[11:22] <jager> doesn't utorrent have a linux native client?
[11:23] <gae> soulrider: winehq
[11:23] <soulrider> terran4000: you can have beryl on kubuntu no problem
[11:23] <Powerking89670> why not use KTorrent?
[11:23] <soulrider> ktortent isnt good enough for me
[11:23] <gae> indeed why not Ktorrent
[11:23] <Powerking89670> its in the Adept Package Manager, couldnt get any easier to install things
[11:23] <jager> ktorrent is pretty nice
[11:23] <soulrider> i installed deluge on Arch, but for some reason it wont load
[11:23] <terran4000> soulrider: oh I know ... I still have it running on my semi-working system. it's just that Feisty broke my desktop. No network, no working raid, no video acceleration ... ect ect
[11:24] <maki_> i can remove all the kernels exept that what grub loads?!
[11:24] <terran4000> Kubunty Edgy worked just fine ... except for beryl.
[11:24] <soulrider> terran4000: its still beta!! :P
[11:24] <soulrider> everyone upgrades to feisty and then complains, i got a feeling that feisty will be a bit too buggy for my taste
[11:24] <soulrider> maki yes
[11:24] <terran4000> soulrider: yeah yeah ... though from my I've seen so far, feisty is going the wrong way in terms of compatibility with older hardware
[11:24] <maki_> ok thatnks
[11:25] <soulrider> yes terran4000 i feel the same way
[11:25] <fdoving> terran4000: that's actually not just feisty, the entire 2.6.x series of the linux kernel is going that way.
[11:25] <jager> terran4000: i got beryl running on edgy last time i had this loaded
[11:25] <Stormzoeker> terron4000: got feisty up and running on a very old Dell GX1 :P
[11:25] <terran4000> I run Feisty on this laptop and it rans damn well. only issues I ran into were also with beryl when I really started messing with it :-)
[11:25] <jager> of course now i have to start over but it seemed trivial enough
[11:25] <soulrider> i have berylk on edgy! :P
[11:26] <terran4000> jager: yeah, beryl on edgy works damn well I have to admit ... except with kde >_>
[11:26] <raindo1> In Kubuntu FIrefox and Thunderbird work perfectly.  In my Gnome session Firefox can't do dns lookups, and Thunderbird won't connect at all.  What could be causing this?  (It's not my firewall as Konqueror works perfectly in both sessions.)
[11:26] <jager> i had it running under kde
[11:26] <jager> what didn't work for you?
[11:26] <terran4000> jager: I could never get the kicker and taskbar to work right. even with the 'compiz' patches for both
[11:27] <jager> weird
[11:27] <PhinnFort> works here
[11:27] <terran4000> it's a known bug actually ...
[11:27] <terran4000> some people have it, some don't
[11:27] <jager> seemed to work as expected for me
[11:27] <jager> weird
[11:27] <terran4000> agreed.
[11:27] <soulrider> i allways sued KDE and it worked like charm for me
[11:27] <PhinnFort> i want to sue KDE too!
[11:27] <jager> lol
[11:27] <terran4000> lol
[11:27] <PhinnFort> ;P
[11:28] <Black_Cat> %)))
[11:28] <jager> i wanna know why my wifi card doesn't seem to work under anything but edgy out of the box
[11:28] <jager> 00:09.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)
[11:28] <Black_Cat> why sueing someone who makes real good stuff though :)
[11:28] <jager> that's a pretty generic card, no?
[11:28] <terran4000> edgy is stable and proven to be so ... like debian stable is damn stable on all hardware ...
[11:29] <gae> terran4000: not true
[11:29] <gae> Dapper is the stable one
[11:29] <jager> doesn't that card use the orinoco module?
[11:29] <gae> terran4000: edgy is good
[11:29] <terran4000> gae: ah you, you are correct, my apologies.
[11:29] <terran4000> *ah yes
[11:29] <jager> ubuntu on the desktop, debian on the servers
[11:29] <jager> that's how i roll
[11:29] <terran4000> same
[11:30] <PhinnFort> ubuntu on the desktop, kein server;)
[11:30] <terran4000> never had a problem with my two deb servers. ^^ so much less work on those two once I set up em
[11:31] <terran4000> speaking of problems ... is this a known problem: you boot your laptop with the 2nd battery (module bay) in, then decide you want to burn something so you swap in your cd-rom .. but it doesn't work/show up
[11:32] <terran4000> thus you have to reboot to have it show up in /dev ...
[11:32] <terran4000> is this common? or just me being an idiot somehow?
[11:34] <raindo1> I get the following error in my gnome session when starting Firefox but not in my kde session.
[11:34] <raindo1> /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN7KGlobal23unregisterStaticDeleterEP18KStaticDeleterBase
[11:34] <raindo1> /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/styles/domino.so could not be unloaded
[11:34] <raindo1> gedit: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1: undefined symbol: _ZN7KGlobal23unregisterStaticDeleterEP18KStaticDeleterBase
[11:34] <raindo1> Why would domino.so be throwing this error in gnome?
[11:36] <terran4000> raindo1: seems FF (and the like) are using your KDE libs for most things
[11:36] <terran4000> did you install kubuntu originally?
[11:36] <raindo1> terran4000:  no.  I have always had ubuntu installed initially and installed a kde session afterwards.
[11:37] <raindo1> This behavior just started recently.
[11:37] <raindo1> In KDE Firefox works just fine, but now, in gnome it can't even do dns lookups correctly.
[11:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> heh theres irony
[11:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its rebeling against its makers
[11:38] <raindo1> hehe
[11:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> firefox fights the system: catch it in theatres this month!
[11:39] <raindo1> If I wasn't on dialup I'd just download Feisty beta and proceed with a clean install to take care of the problem.
[11:39] <jhutchins> raindo1: Is the firefox on your system from ubuntu, or from Mozilla?
[11:39] <raindo1> jhutchins:  it's from ubuntu.
[11:40] <jhutchins> raindo1: You could just try reinstalling.  I'd do it either from the console or within gnome, see if it helps.
[11:40] <Black_Cat> pity there wasn't firefox in kubuntu :(
[11:40] <jhutchins> Black_Cat: Um, yeah, there is.
[11:40] <terran4000> Black_Cat: there is ....
[11:40] <Black_Cat> erm
[11:40] <raindo1> jhutchins:  I have considered that.  I guess I'll have to bite that bullet.
[11:40] <Black_Cat> i used kubuntu6.06 liveCD, and it had NO firefox there...
[11:41] <terran4000> 6.10 would have it
[11:41] <jhutchins> !info mozilla-firefox
[11:41] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.0.3+0dfsg-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 55 kB, installed size 116 kB
[11:42] <raindo1> My other option is to simply forget my gnome session and stay in kde until I can get a Feisty iso.
[11:43] <jhutchins> Black_Cat: Live CD's have limited resources, and since konqueror is part of KDE, they chose not to duplicate it's function.
[11:43] <maki> where can i configure autostarted apps
[11:43] <weedar> I can't seem to find my two Sony Ericsson W810i cell phones via the Bluetooth OBEX Client, any suggestions as to why?
[11:43] <Black_Cat> jhutchins: quite reasonable, but still sad a bit
[11:43] <weedar> I got one of the phones to work the other day (this is the first time I've tried the second one)
[11:43] <fdoving> !autostart | maki
[11:43] <ubotu> maki: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[11:43] <jhutchins> Black_Cat: Oh, I don't think so.  I don't think firefox is all that great.
[11:44] <Black_Cat> jhutchins: firefox isn't. but i miss those webdev-plugins.
[11:44] <jhutchins> I use konqueror for 99% of what I do.
[11:45] <jhutchins> Quanta's great for development.
[11:46] <Hrontore> !envy
[11:46] <ari> hi.
[11:47] <Hrontore> hi
[11:47] <terran4000> Hiya
[11:47] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[11:47] <Hrontore> ha there it is
[11:47] <Hrontore> ^^
[11:47] <__huzzah__> /close
[11:47] <AmyRose> I'm curious--does anyone in here know if Konversation can display the background colors of formatted text? I ask because I'm in a channel where people make use of that.
[11:47] <ari> i'm trying to record my voice with audacity but it doesn't work although i can hear my voice with my speakers
[11:48] <terran4000> blarg ... sometimes, I think Feisty is turning into something similar to Vista >_>
[11:48] <ari> how could i fix that !%!
[11:48] <ari> *!?!
[11:48] <jhutchins> ari: Read the audacity docs.
[11:48] <AmyRose> !rtfm | jhutchins
[11:48] <PhinnFort> terran4000: how so?
[11:49] <jhutchins> AmyRose: I think that's a configurable option in the settings menu.
[11:49] <ari> i read them but i didn't find what i was looking for.
[11:49] <terran4000> it's removeing older hardware support left and right, thus the min-specs just keep on increasing greatly
[11:49] <AmyRose> jhutchins: I can't find that. I can turn on foreground colors but not background colors
[11:49] <ari> i might look again...
[11:49] <jhutchins> ari: Do you have capture enabled for the mic in your mixer?
[11:50] <ari> in kmixer, yes it is enabled. but audacity doesn't record it.
[11:50] <jhutchins> AmyRose: You're right, I see "Allow colored text", but nothing about backgrounds.
[11:51] <AmyRose> jhutchins: I find that odd because the color dialog lets you pick a background color
[11:51] <AmyRose> Looks like I'll just stick to XChat
[11:51] <Hrontore> how do i use envy
[11:51] <Hrontore> ?
[11:51] <AmyRose> Hrontore: You installed it, right?
[11:51] <Hrontore> uhh
[11:52] <jhutchins> ari: I have two buttons on my mixer, one for "Mute" and one for "Record".
[11:52] <AmyRose> Hrontore: Did you download the deb file?
[11:52] <Hrontore> no i dont know how to mess with the deb file
[11:52] <AmyRose> Hrontore: Can you use the terminal?
[11:52] <Hrontore> yes
[11:52] <ari> oh i thought you were talking about kmix wich has more than 2 buttons...
[11:53] <Hrontore> amyrose: im trying to figure out why my windows games aren't work properly
[11:53] <AmyRose> Hrontore: Then just do "sudo dpkg -i name-of-the-deb.deb"
[11:53] <jhutchins> Hrontore: What part of "This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here." did you not understand?
[11:53] <AmyRose> Hrontore: Linux isn't designed to run Windows games.
[11:53] <Hrontore> true
[11:53] <AmyRose> Hrontore: jhutchins is right.
[11:54] <Hrontore> k
[11:54] <Black_Cat> Hrontore: but there are many games for linux :)
[11:54] <Hrontore> I know
[11:54] <Hrontore> found a lot of them
[11:54] <maki_> i dont have nothing in /.kde/Autostart/ and still kopete konversation and amarok are autostarted
[11:54] <AmyRose> Hrontore: Do you have an nvidia card?
[11:54] <Hrontore> haha, no, ati
[11:55] <fdoving> maki_: that's because they are saved in the session, ie. you left them running when you logged out.
[11:55] <jhutchins> maki_: Close them, then log off and log back on again.
[11:55] <maki_> il try
[11:55] <AmyRose> I always start with a blank session...
[11:56] <maki_> no
[11:56] <maki_> its the same
[11:57] <AmyRose> maki_: Try going into the System Settings dialog, advanced, and Session manager. Set it to start a blank session
[11:59] <WopR> salut
[11:59] <maki_> simple as that
[11:59] <maki_> i'm realy a n00b
[12:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> if not for newbism, could one ever achieve professionalism?
[12:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> if not for a beginning, do all things not end? maki_ philosophy!!
[12:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its okay to be new
[12:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> relax
[12:01] <maki_> that's the problem
[12:01] <maki_> i'm not new
[12:01] <maki_> i use linux for 6 monts now
[12:01] <terran4000> I think there should be a addition to that philosophy: being new is ok, and welcome even ... if you are open minded and willing to learn :-)
[12:01] <Gtwy> is there a website i can search packages on
[12:01] <Gtwy> besides using the adept package manager
[12:02] <Gtwy> i am not on kubuntu right now but i want to see if a few packages are on there or not
[12:02] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> terran4000: that was what i was going at
[12:02] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> and trust me maki_ at 6 months in
[12:02] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> you are still new.. i am 4 years in
[12:02] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> an still new
[12:02] <maki_> :)
[12:02] <maki_> it develops to fast
[12:02] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> until i can compile from source a stinger missile to launch at my ex gf's house that runs off of open-source rocket fuel... i'll always be new
[12:02] <bud> email is still unencrypted, any ideas?
[12:03] <terran4000> aye ... 5 years here and I still ask plenty of questions about this or that >_>
[12:03] <terran4000> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: lol
[12:03] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> doh! it kernel paniced!
[12:03] <jhutchins> paclages | Gtwy
[12:03] <jhutchins> !packages | Gtwy
[12:03] <ubotu> Gtwy: You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[12:04] <maki_> you have search engine for mozzila
[12:04] <Gtwy> thanks\
[12:04] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> terran4000: you gave it vodka?
[12:05] <terran4000> no .. I drank it. So now I've just kicking it randomly hoping it will work.
[12:05] <terran4000> s/drank it/drank that/
[12:06] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> well if you'll excuse me.. this is one linux nerd who needs a suntan
[12:06] <terran4000> traitor!
[12:07] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> what? i like being pale and all but when i try to hide in the dark im sick of people calling me radioactive boy
[12:07] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> im so white that i radiate darkness! blaah
[12:08] <terran4000> that just means you not using correct monitors!
[12:08] <PhinnFort> adjust your gamma, mkay?
[12:10] <karel-jan> hello
[12:10] <karel-jan> can someone help me with this error? The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[12:10] <wolferine> karel-jan, did you?
[12:11] <karel-jan> does someone know how to fix this,
[12:11] <karel-jan> ?
[12:11] <wolferine> karel-jan, did you?
[12:12] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, have you tried "running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem"?
[12:12] <karel-jan> did I do what wolferine?
[12:12] <karel-jan> yes
[12:12] <chalcedny> i'm back trying to help my husband with his kubuntu box. if this is not the right place, tell me, but what he has now is it froze and won't reboot.
[12:12] <maki> what is usplash
[12:12] <wolferine> karel-jan, if you READ it, it tells you what you need to do