=== Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-49-5.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === welshbyte [n=nnwelshb@ubuntu/member/welshbyte] has joined #launchpad === sm is now known as sm-afk === jackr [n=jrepenni@nat1.sp.collab.net] has joined #launchpad === radix [n=radix@70.91.133.157] has joined #launchpad [01:01] is it possible to edit the date of a (past) release? [01:02] yes [01:03] ok ... how? [01:03] +edit === jackr suspects kiko-afk has assumed I know more than I do [01:03] lol [01:03] what product, jackr, and what release? [01:04] https://launchpad.net/scplugin/trunk [01:04] that's not a release [01:04] that's a series [01:04] release is 0.6 [01:04] (which are the only one, so far) [01:05] gotcha [01:05] but the "date" of which I speak is the one displayed on the series "releases" list [01:06] wow, it seems to be missing [01:06] in the form [01:06] can you file a bug on that jackr? [01:06] it's pretty serious [01:06] um. yeah. sure. I don't know what's broken yet, tho.... [01:06] what's missing? [01:07] I see a date, but it's actually the date when I registered the release; no one ever asked me for the actual release date [01:07] a field to allow you to edit ProductRelease.datereleased [01:07] horrible bug [01:07] ah, yes, that makes sense. === jackr starts filing [01:08] it defaults to UTC_NOW which is also kinda a bug [01:08] jesus [01:08] I would expect it to default to UTC something ... translating to my TZ upon display ... [01:08] well.. [01:08] what I meant is that it defaults to /now/ [01:08] but very rarely do you register a release for /now/ === jackr figured the idea was to encourage people to update launchpad in a timely manner === jackr files: Bug #102153, first reported 1 seconds ago by Jack Repenning [01:11] Malone bug 102153 in malone "No "date-edit" field in the +edit page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102153 [01:12] ah, looks like there's a 'bot for that. [01:14] indeed [01:14] help.launchpad.net still says it's a private beta at the top [01:14] welshbyte, I think that template is being updated RSM [01:14] err RSN [01:14] man I need some bed [01:14] catch you guys later :) === kiko-afk is now known as kiko-zzz [01:14] ok [01:14] thanks for the bug, jackr [01:14] np === jackr wanders back to playing with this new toy [01:20] New bug: #102153 in malone "No "date-edit" field in the +edit page" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102153 [01:31] New bug: #102155 in malone "breadcrumb layout problems in Safari" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102155 [01:31] New bug: #102156 in launchpad "Page for leaving a team has two headings and no other text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102156 === jml [n=jml@220-253-100-63.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #launchpad [02:02] I just wanted to let anyone involved with LP know that the beta looks fantastic. The theme is top notch [02:10] New bug: #102160 in launchpad "An @property replacement that reports AttributeErrors as PropertyFailedErrors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102160 === welshbyte [n=nnwelshb@ubuntu/member/welshbyte] has left #launchpad [] === mdke_ [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === radix [n=radix@70.91.133.157] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [03:16] New bug: #102175 in launchpad-bazaar "Test page flow for unlogged in user registering a branch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102175 === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #launchpad [03:30] New bug: #102180 in launchpad "Unclear who can add adminstrators to teams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102180 [03:35] New bug: #102182 in launchpad "Why can I send a comment when changing a team membership, but not when adding one?" 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[09:17] morning carlos === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.34.218] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #launchpad === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #launchpad [09:22] popey: there's a script that automatically expires old tickets. previously it wasn't running, but it was started again now, so it had some tickets to expire. [09:23] i suspected as much :) === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.12.212.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-130-40.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === mrevell [n=matthew@62-30-68-94.cable.ubr05.wolv.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === leoquant [n=leonquan@g234019.upc-g.chello.nl] has joined #launchpad === leoquant [n=leonquan@g234019.upc-g.chello.nl] has left #launchpad [] === sadleder [n=sadleder@p50813a08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad === mimilus [n=davy@ADijon-257-1-5-239.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #launchpad === schwuk [n=dave@ubuntu/member/schwuk] has joined #launchpad [10:15] hi, any registry administrator there who can offer help? === bigjools [n=ed@82-71-93-254.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === mtaylor [n=mtaylor@dsl231-061-195.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #launchpad === Kuhrscher [n=jannick@91.64.1.251] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [10:28] jamesh, ping [10:29] imbrandon: hi [10:29] heya [10:29] w.r.t 100079 makin a LP rdf namespace shouldnt be a blocker correct ? [10:29] carlos: Nice to see that k3b now uses the correct template in Rosetta. That's great. Are the upstream translations already in the import queue? [10:30] Kuhrscher: I think there were imported, but we didnt't import the .pot files [10:30] so new translations were imported but hidden because obsolete .pot files [10:31] imbrandon: we've already got an RDF ontology used by the product/project RDF dumps: https://launchpad.net/rdf [10:31] at least, I didn't see any .po file pending to be imported [10:31] carlos: I remember you said that, but actaully old translations are used... === tokj [n=tokj@151.82.7.245] has joined #launchpad [10:32] imbrandon: what I am saying is that if we want to add ssh public keys to the person/team RDF dump, then we'd either add the new properties to our ontology or find an existing ontology that can represent the data [10:32] carlos: The translations look quite incomplete atm and at least for german I know that this is incorrect. [10:32] imbrandon: the wot ontology doesn't seem to cover SSH keys, so it would be incorrect to export data in the form you suggested [10:33] jamesh, ahh right, ok, i'm mainly just after the SSH info like me and jml and Fujitsu talked about yesterday [10:33] carlos: And I know about some strings we changend, which are still the old ones. [10:33] he sugested the bug, as far as the wot, thats not a big deal, only an ilistration [10:33] jamesh: I looked last night for an existing namespace that might cover it, but I couldn't see one. [10:34] (changed upstream of course) [10:34] Can somebody please confirm/prioritise/something bug #102253? [10:34] Malone bug 102253 in malone "Tasks in some multi-task bugs now immutable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102253 === Spads_ [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [10:37] jamesh, but yea, basicly it would cut down our requests from 90+ to 1 and also stop us from html screen scraping the team pages [10:37] per sync === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [10:43] Fujitsu/imbrandon: there isn't a problem with adding it to our own namespace (since we control it) [10:43] jamesh: That's what I would have thought. [10:44] if there is a suitable standard way of defining the property, we may be able to say that our representation is equivalent in the ontology === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #launchpad [10:47] heya === Fujitsu waves to dholbach. [10:48] daniel! === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [10:49] i get timeouts from bazaar.launchpad.net - anything known about that? [10:49] (pulling from ~calamandrei/tangerine-icon-theme/ubuntu) [10:49] dholbach: http? [10:50] New bug: #102273 in launchpad "product search shows description instead of summary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102273 === Spads_ [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [10:51] spiv: sorry - it was a https link, works with http now [10:51] thanks [10:51] jamesh, ok [10:51] dholbach: ah :) [10:51] we should probably RT that [10:52] I got https://codebrowse.launchpad.net fixed to redirect to http://codebrowse.launchpad.net [10:52] which fixes a similar gotcha === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-074-004-189.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad [10:55] New bug: #102275 in launchpad "help.notepad not editable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102275 === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [10:58] question to the developers :D [10:58] are you happy with ZOPE? === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === Spads_ [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [11:07] mitsuhiko: are you not? [11:07] schwuk: well. i don't use it [11:08] but i heard terrible things in the german python channel :) [11:08] mitsuhiko: I'm starting to explore it, so wondered why you asked === totalwor1age [n=worm@flits102-83.flits.rug.nl] has joined #launchpad === sadleder [n=sadleder@p50813a08.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #launchpad [] === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad [11:14] mitsuhiko: first of all, we are using the Zope 3 component framework as a basis to build Launchpad. [11:14] mitsuhiko: so if people were talking about experiences with Zope 2, they wouldn't necessarily apply [11:15] mitsuhiko: that said, it does seem to have a steeper learning curve than some of the other frameworks [11:15] however, I've run into limitations more frequently with some of the other frameworks [11:16] well. i'm used to run into limitations when working with frameworks. that's no news :) [11:16] jamesh: but you would recommend zope3? === Fujitsu would certainly recommend Zope 3, even though there is a steep learning curve. [11:17] well. learning curve is not the problem [11:17] it's important how something scales and if it's easy to maintain the sourcecode === Fujitsu points at LP. [11:18] That's scaling. [11:18] mitsuhiko: sure. [11:18] mitsuhiko: note that for Launchpad we aren't using the ZODB for data storage [11:19] instead using sqlobject to map data from Postgres to Python objects [11:19] which we can then publish and hang views off of [11:19] sqlobject? [11:19] oh [11:19] an object relational mapper [11:19] yeah. know it [11:19] i replaced with with sqlalchemy some time ago :) [11:19] carlos: If you take a look at the following page, you see that many languages have about 533 untranslated strings in Rosetta. That's quite exactly the number of new or changed strings in k3b 1.0. [11:20] same principle [11:20] carlos: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/k3b/+pots/k3b [11:20] Kuhrscher: I got disconnected so I'm not sure whether you saw my answer... === totalwor1age is now known as totalwormage [11:20] mitsuhiko: make your SQL classes implement appropriate interfaces, register views for those interfaces, and set up traversal to publish those objects [11:20] Kuhrscher: I still don't see any .po file for k3b as pending [11:20] Kuhrscher: I will do a manual upload then [11:21] carlos: Ahh,ok, thanks :) [11:21] jamesh: sounds like a clean design [11:21] how many servers are working for launchpad? [11:22] Kuhrscher: I guess 0.12.17-1 is latest version with translations, right? [11:22] at least, that's the version we have in Feisty [11:22] No. The most recent is 1.0 [11:22] and it matches k3b package [11:22] also in Feisty and it is 100% translated. [11:22] is it? [11:22] I believe there are two running it, one as a frontend load-balancer, a postgres server, drescher for Soyuz... [11:23] *running Zope [11:23] oh, bad source list in my sources.list [11:23] Carlos, on my fresh install it is. [11:23] fetching latest version [11:23] Kuhrscher: I found the problem [11:23] Fujitsu: so 4 in total? [11:24] http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/k3b/k3b-i18n-1.0.tar.bz2?download [11:24] k3b-i18n was not updated [11:24] I listed 5 there, but there are a heap more. [11:24] Kuhrscher: let me check with Riddell whether we could get that package updated [11:25] mitsuhiko: there are 2 front end servers, each running two 6-thread app servers [11:25] mitsuhiko: "launchpad" is a large system. There's more than just the webapp. [11:25] mitsuhiko: there is a separate machine running as a database server, and there is a load balancer in front of the app servers [11:25] mitsuhiko: I guess you're just asking about the https://launchpad.net/ website that runs on zope 3, rather than the other bits? [11:26] spiv: well. i just referred to the zope part [11:26] mitsuhiko: right. In that case, see jamesh's answer. :) [11:27] yeah. that sounds like zope3 is a major improvement or you guys just know how to handle the system [11:27] mitsuhiko: for testing purposes, I just run a single app server instance locally [11:28] __doc__ from #python.de told me that they used 30 servers for a music webshop with about the same size as launchpad [11:28] mitsuhiko: but you can fairly easily improve performance with more app server processes === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-73.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-137-137.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad [11:29] jamesh: thanks for the information [11:30] mitsuhiko: it's hard to say whether the webshop is comparable though. [11:30] without knowing more details about how they had things set up [11:30] Carlos: Thank you, I have to leave now. === danilo_ [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [11:31] Kuhrscher: ok, cheers. [11:32] hm, codebrowse.lp.net broken, or am I just unlucky? === ajmitch got a 502 proxy error trying to view http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ajmitch/network-authentication/authtool after a long time waiting [11:35] New bug: #102253 in malone "Tasks in some multi-task bugs now immutable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102253 [11:35] ajmitch: it just worked for me. Sometimes the first view of a branch can be quite slow. [11:36] spiv: right, but timing out on a relatively small project branch isn't a good thing [11:36] Gee, thanks ubotu. I only filed that 2 hours ago. === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.138.132.235] has joined #launchpad [11:52] jamesh: Bug #102253 has some more comments now, and it is getting stranger... [11:52] Malone bug 102253 in malone "Tasks in some multi-task bugs now immutable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102253 [11:53] hmmm. http://imagepaste.nulldigital.net/viewimage.php?id=154 [11:53] got that screenshot a few minutes ago [11:53] is it supposed to look like this in swift? :) === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [11:54] mitsuhiko: That's what you get for using browsers that I've never heard of. [11:54] spiv: just listening to Mary on the radio === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [11:55] Fujitsu: I believe swiftfox is a mangled, non-free firefox [11:55] Fujitsu: according to the swift webpage it's webkit for windows [11:55] so, the safari engine [11:55] so not swiftfox? [11:55] confusing === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad [11:56] ajmitch: That's Swiftfox, and it's really wrong, and lots of people install it on Ubuntu, and then the world explodes. [11:57] You learn horrible, horrible things from reading the fora. === carlos -> bank [11:57] and we get the bugs, yay [11:57] see you later [11:57] Bye carlos. === ajmitch gets food [11:57] Fujitsu: what's the problem with swiftfox? [11:57] mitsuhiko: ... it's non-free and stupid. [11:57] well. i never tried it [11:57] Is there a loophole in one of the Mozilla licenses that allows them to do that? [11:58] Fujitsu: allows them to what. build it? [11:58] mitsuhiko: Not distribute source. [11:58] mitsuhiko: the problem is.. it sucks :-) Mozilla Firefox r0x! [11:58] Fujitsu: oh. didn't know that [11:58] No, Firefox sucks too. [11:58] Epiphany is better. [11:59] well. i suppose they don't alter the source [12:01] Fujitsu: http://getswiftfox.com/source.htm [12:02] They must be changing the source, because the title is different. [12:03] How is it legal to distribute the binaries under another license!? [12:04] Fujitsu: it uses gecko :) [12:04] Fujitsu: commented on the bug [12:04] jamesh: Thanks. [12:04] I'm pretty sure it is a dupe too. [12:05] I've marked it as duplicate of bug 81014 [12:05] Malone bug 81014 in malone "Don't assume entered package is a binary package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014 === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad [12:06] jamesh: Indeed, though it really should leave the assigned package alone when changing things on the task. [12:07] Strange coincidence that it was duplicated and reported again today... === bac [n=bac@cpe-065-190-191-245.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #launchpad [12:10] Fujitsu: apparently the webkit rendering engine has a problem with the amount of nested divs [12:11] no idea if that happens on os x too, but i doubt it === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad === poolie [n=mbp@ppp112-44.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad [12:27] New bug: #102296 in malone "Bug in Screenshot during using Google Earth" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102296 === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-213-168-120-218.netcologne.de] has joined #launchpad [12:36] Er.. the design has changed a 'bit' it seems? [12:37] yes. beta became public [12:37] May I say that I liked the old design way better. [12:39] Not only because of the looks, also about usability. [12:40] oh yeah? [12:41] New bug: #102301 in blueprint "Border around dependency tree doesn't look good" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102301 === _thumper_ is now known as thumper [12:45] kalikiana_: What usability issues have you found with the new one? [12:47] For example the font looks washed out. === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #launchpad [12:48] And I miss all the now hidden links around the page which were available immediately before. [12:54] kalikiana_: known issues :) [12:54] kalikiana_: bug 82344 [12:54] Malone bug 82344 in launchpad "The beta's font size is too small" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82344 === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [12:55] kalikiana_: and bug 88342 [12:55] Malone bug 88342 in launchpad "portlets should be expanded by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88342 [12:55] kalikiana_: feel free to comment them :) [12:56] pochu, Now I'm a bit releaved :) [12:56] kalikiana_: cool :) [12:57] btw, I love the new design [12:59] I guess the overall design choice depends on personal taste. Maybe after those two issues are fixed one can have a simple skin support? === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #launchpad [01:00] kalikiana_: http://err.no/src/lp_expandportlets.user.js is a greasemonkey script for expanding the portlets. === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #launchpad [01:03] Fujitsu, Thank you - but I'll rather wait for a change in launchpad. === zwn1 [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad [01:04] we'll probably make your browser remember each portlet's state of visibility [01:04] so, you need to expand the ones you want just once [01:04] how do you reassign a bug to a different package? I filed mine under the wrong package - need to move it now to kdesktop binary for ubuntu. [01:05] LeeJunFan: Click on the name of the package on the bug, and type the name. [01:06] Fujitsu: you mean under "Affects" to change the source package? [01:07] I thought I could just click the name in the title, but that doesn't seem to work any more. [01:08] LeeJunFan: Under Affects, yes. I don't think you could ever do the latter of those. === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db440f8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === cprov-out is now known as cprov === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-80-193.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad [01:29] good morning, folks. [01:30] Hi cprov. === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === tokj [n=tokj@151.82.1.179] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #launchpad [01:40] cprov: morning === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad [01:41] carlos: morning, dude [01:47] LaserJock: btw I forgot to tell you that edubuntu's templates are now available: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/edubuntu-docs/ === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@89-180-147-194.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === tiagoboldt_ [n=tiagobol@87-196-27-185.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #launchpad [02:05] on the new launchpad UI for bugs, is it posilbe to jump to a bug report? [02:05] the options been taken off the front page, and the default 'bugs' page doesnt have it either [02:05] (bugs. also breaks quite horribly at 600x800) === carlos -> lunch [02:09] Kamping_Kaiser: https://launchpad.net/bugs/bug-number still works here [02:10] carlos, thanks. i never seem to remember that url though :/ [02:10] *uses it for this one* === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.212.225.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [02:17] filed a bug on the UI... it should appeaer here soon? === kalikiana__ [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-23-76.netcologne.de] has joined #launchpad [02:18] Kamping_Kaiser: you can also jump to a bug by searching for the bug number on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ [02:19] BjornT, but where? [02:20] ah [02:20] i get what you mean [02:21] Kamping_Kaiser: the bug you filed should show up here, but it might take a while since the mail servers seem a bit busy. [02:22] BjornT, they were taking a while yesterday, its no rush, it'll get dealt with somehow === caravena [n=caravena@199-45-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #launchpad [02:25] New bug: #102331 in launchpad "Launchpad 1.0 UI breaks at 800x600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102331 [02:25] grin [02:26] hehe === indraveni [n=indraven@bosslinux.in] has joined #launchpad [02:28] mrevell, hi [02:28] mrevell, I dint get any mail from anyone? === jb-home [n=jbailey@2002:4a38:aa9:1:20d:93ff:fe5a:87c0] has joined #launchpad [02:31] How do I remove a person from a group that I accidentally added? [02:31] It claims today's date is in the past, and I don't want him to have write access to the glibc packaging for a day. [02:31] indraveni: Hi. [02:32] jb-home: disable his membership [02:32] jb-home: $team/+member/$membername I think [02:33] Weird, I was trying that a moment ago, and it was telling me that I had an invalid date, so I tried adding one. [02:33] matsubara: Thanks! [02:33] mrevell, I want to use launchpad, but ? [02:33] indraveni: I spoke to Elliot (statik) and he assured me he assured me he'd get in contact with you. [02:33] mrevell, ok [02:34] indraveni: I'm sorry you haven't received an email yet. When he is at his desk (as he is in the USA) I'll speak to him again. [02:34] mrevell, thankyou very much. [02:35] indraveni: i work closely with elliot and will bring your matter to his attention. can you tell me briefly what the issue is? [02:36] bac, I want to know how to use launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad [02:37] bac, I already registered our distro with launchpad, but I am not knowing what are the features allowed to me and how to use them === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [02:38] indraveni: ah, so it is a distro question. [02:38] bac, yes, [02:38] indraveni: i'll chat with elliot as soon as he arrives today and we'll be back in touch. are you going to be around this channel for a while? [02:38] bac, I am working for a debian based distribution in India, and interested to use launchapd for pachakge versioning, bug tracking etc === galdor [n=chris@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #launchpad [02:39] bac, I am from India, and so, by 7:00 Pm, I will quit === TeTeT_ [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [02:40] indraveni: please remind me of your UTC time offset [02:40] bac, 12 hrs forward to US timings [02:41] Hi there. Is this the correct channel to discuss a problem with the ubuntu wikiname created for me when I registered an account on launchpad? [02:41] galdor: yes. what's up? [02:42] indraveni: as you know there are four time zones in the continental US. let's simplify, please tell me how much longer you will be around today. 20 minutes? [02:43] bac, oops sorry [02:43] bac, I will be for another hour [02:43] is it possible to get my wiki wiki name changed to be camel case? [02:43] Thanks matsubara. My Launchpad account name is ChrisSchoonbee but the generated wikiname is Chrisschoonbee. I would like to change it to ChrisSchoonbee [02:43] heh, I have the same issue galdor :) [02:44] indraveni: we'll be back in touch either before you take off for the night or via email. thanks! [02:44] although we have different names of course [02:44] bac, bac thankyou [02:44] I see :) === tiagoboldt_ [n=tiagobol@87-196-84-32.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad [02:47] galdor: I think you can't change that. === jb-home [n=jbailey@2002:4a38:aa9:1:20d:93ff:fe5a:87c0] has left #launchpad ["Can't] [02:48] That's irritating. I wonder why not? [02:50] popey: Did you also try to use "Update wiki names" on your launchpad homepage? [02:50] can an admin not poke the database directly? [02:51] galdor: I don't know the rationale. You're welcome to file a bug about it. === tiagoboldt_ is now known as tiagoboldt [02:51] galdor: yes [02:51] it fixed it :) [02:52] thanks [02:54] popey: How did you do it exactly? === crane_work [n=chatzill@adsl-065-015-159-088.sip.bhm.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad [02:54] Grettings [02:54] Did you leave any of the fields blank? [02:54] I have a request for the launch admins. [02:55] Not sure if this is the place to ask or if I need to contact someone via email [02:55] galdor: i went to https://launchpad.net/~alanpope then clicked "update wiki names", there is only one entry "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/" "Alanpope", I changed it to "AlanPope" and clicked Save. Went to launchpad and in the top right it now says "AlanPope" and not "Alanpope" [02:56] New bug: #102257 in rosetta "Add a TranslationKarmaCache table" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102257 [02:58] popey: Thanks. I think I have managed to do it. The screen is not very intuitive to my mind. I assumed the fields underneath the title "New wiki name" are where I [02:59] crane_work: this is a good place to ask about it. === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [02:59] should put the new name and the section above was just giving me my current name, not that I should change it there. === tiagoboldt_ [n=tiagobol@87-196-52-37.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad [03:01] popey: and I got an error message about not being able to have two wikinames. Any way, alls well that ends well. [03:01] :) === tiagoboldt_ is now known as tiagoboldt === galdor [n=chris@vc-196-207-32-232.3g.vodacom.co.za] has left #launchpad ["Ex-Chat"] [03:05] SteveA: Thanks, I was in the process of creating aLoCo team page for Alabama last night and got off track [03:05] I actually created a project page instead of a team page. [03:06] I did find the correct place to create the team page but I do not know how to remove the project page [03:06] Is it possible for me to do this or will if have to be someone from Launchpad? [03:06] what is the project? [03:07] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-us-alabama [03:07] I created the team under ubuntu-us-al [03:09] crane_work, do you have any idea whethe we need to pay for using some of the features of launchapd or not? [03:09] crane_work: okay, I just made that project "inactive" [03:09] crane_work: I'm interested that you initially thought that registering a project was the right thing to do [03:10] crane_work: what can we do to help others avoid that misapprehension? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [03:10] SteveA: could you please turn inactive the project xia? [03:11] welterde: why? [03:11] it looks like a legitimate project, and not a team mistakenly registered as a project [03:11] it turned out to be useless, because i wanted that to be an umrella project [03:12] but it turned out, that this is impossible [03:12] if you're the owner of the project, please change its description to "please make this project inactive" [03:12] and then I'll know that the owner of the project has requested it [03:12] rather than some random person on irc :-) [03:12] moment... [03:12] done [03:13] welterde: ok, done [03:13] great [03:13] crane_work: I need to go. If you have any feedback for me on this issue, please talk with matsubara about it. === welterde closes his question on launchpad regarding that [03:14] SteveA: when I went to register the project I started at the home page and clicked register. My thinking was that the group would be considered a project in general from launchpad. === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable252.1-202-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [03:16] now just creating the umbrella project xia-project is left [03:17] welterde: did you request that in the ticket? if yes, it's better to leave it open. [03:17] no i didnt [03:17] i was about to create an new one for that [03:17] I found the way to create a team after some searching under people>list all teams>register a team [03:17] at least not directly === tiagoboldt_ [n=tiagobol@87-196-52-37.net.novis.pt] has joined #launchpad [03:20] crane_work: I think you're right. It's indeed not very obvious how to register a new team. [03:21] I hope I did not cause any trouble with my mistake [03:21] crane_work: not at all. Your feedback is much appreciated. [03:22] matsubara: created a new ticket for that umbrella project [03:24] crane_work: just to make it clear, you thought that the projects in launchpad were another terminology for group or you thought that registering a new project would automatically register a new group? [03:24] welterde: do you have the URL handy? [03:25] matsubara: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/4595 [03:28] welterde: which projects do you want under that project group? [03:30] currently xia-core [03:30] missing are some, which i didnt enter to lp right now [03:32] matsubara: When I went to register of the front page, I noticed that it said project but thought the group would be considered a project. I did not know launchpad would consider them different. [03:32] I thought I would be able to specify after I had it set up. [03:33] May setting an option when one selects register. An option to register a project or group. [03:34] That's jsut a suggestion, I thiink launchpad is awsome and maybe I jsut plain screwed up and missed something when I started. If so just rightme off as an idiot [03:34] lol === crane_work is now known as crane_ === statik [n=emurphy@unaffiliated/statik] has joined #launchpad [03:38] crane_: I'll file a bug and include your suggestion. thanks for the feedback. [03:39] indraveni: ping [03:39] statik, yes === sinzui [n=Curtis@pool-70-17-122-50.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad [03:41] hi indraveni, I sent mail yesterday but I see in the IRC log that you did not get any mail from me [03:41] indraveni: could you privmsg me your email address so I can check it? [03:41] indraveni: I supposed I should introduce myself, I am Elliot Murphy :) === yap1 [n=soyapi@196.216.13.206] has joined #launchpad [03:44] statik, I dint receive any mail [03:45] statik, I knew you, as mreval informed me about you [03:45] statik, my mail address is indraveni@yahoo.co.in [03:46] statik, please add a CC t indravenik@cdac.in [03:46] indraveni: ok great, I will try again [03:46] indraveni: have you been able to try out the bug tracking system now that BOSS is registered as a distro? [03:47] https://launchpad.net/boss [03:47] statik, no, actually I am not finding a way to startup [03:47] indraveni: also, now that the beta has launched there are some very nice options for branding your pages in launchpad, so if you have official logos or anything for BOSS you can upload those and they will be displayed [03:48] indraveni: are you able to login to launchpad.net and look at the BOSS page? [03:49] statik, oh yeah, its a complete different look displayed here [03:49] statik, yes [03:49] indraveni: I see that you are an administrator for the BOSS team in launchpad, and you have 6 members signed up already, so you should be all set to start adding bugs to the system [03:50] indraveni: or new specifications/blueprints https://blueprints.launchpad.net/boss/ [03:50] statik, ya I am checking, but statik, initially.. I am interested in packages list [03:51] statik, yes I am able to add a bluerpint for BOSS [03:51] statik, how to upload our packages list [03:52] statik, ok, you please send a mail to me regarding all these, I need to attend a meeting now, [03:52] indraveni: I'm not sure about how to upload the packages list, I'll have to look into that and get back to you [03:53] indraveni: enjoy your meeting! glad we got to chat finally [03:53] statik, ok, please let me know about package uploading also [03:53] statik, yes :) [03:53] statik, thankyou very much [03:53] statik, expecting a mail tomorrow morning [03:53] statik, thankyou again [03:53] statik, bye === indraveni is away [03:55] one more question: is the any way to link ubuntu-us-alabama with ubuntu-us-al? [03:55] New bug: #102357 in launchpad-answers "TypeError when requesting +tickets on an empty project" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102357 [03:55] indraveni: I'm attending a meeting now, but send me an email with all your question about pkg uploading. I will deal with it ASAP === indraveni is back [03:56]