[01:01] <jackr> is it possible to edit the date of a (past) release?
[01:02] <kiko-afk> yes
[01:03] <jackr> ok ... how?
[01:03] <kiko-afk> +edit
[01:03] <kiko-afk> lol
[01:03] <kiko-afk> what product, jackr, and what release?
[01:04] <jackr> https://launchpad.net/scplugin/trunk   
[01:04] <kiko-afk> that's not a release
[01:04] <kiko-afk> that's a series
[01:04] <jackr> release is 0.6
[01:04] <jackr> (which are the only one, so far)
[01:05] <kiko-afk> gotcha
[01:05] <jackr> but the "date" of which I speak is the one displayed on the series "releases" list
[01:06] <kiko-afk> wow, it seems to be missing
[01:06] <kiko-afk> in the form
[01:06] <kiko-afk> can you file a bug on that jackr?
[01:06] <kiko-afk> it's pretty serious
[01:06] <jackr> um. yeah.  sure.  I don't know what's broken yet, tho....
[01:06] <jackr> what's missing?
[01:07] <jackr> I see a date, but it's actually the date when I registered the release; no one ever asked me for the actual release date
[01:07] <kiko-afk> a field to allow you to edit ProductRelease.datereleased
[01:07] <kiko-afk> horrible bug
[01:07] <jackr> ah, yes, that makes sense.
[01:08] <kiko-afk> it defaults to UTC_NOW which is also kinda a bug
[01:08] <kiko-afk> jesus
[01:08] <jackr> I would expect it to default to UTC something ... translating to my TZ upon display ...
[01:08] <kiko-afk> well..
[01:08] <kiko-afk> what I meant is that it defaults to /now/
[01:08] <kiko-afk> but very rarely do you register a release for /now/
[01:11] <ubotu> Malone bug 102153 in malone "No "date-edit" field in the +edit page" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102153
[01:12] <jackr> ah, looks like there's a 'bot for that. 
[01:14] <kiko-afk> indeed
[01:14] <welshbyte> help.launchpad.net still says it's a private beta at the top
[01:14] <kiko-afk> welshbyte, I think that template is being updated RSM
[01:14] <kiko-afk> err RSN
[01:14] <kiko-afk> man I need some bed
[01:14] <kiko-afk> catch you guys later :)
[01:14] <welshbyte> ok
[01:14] <kiko-zzz> thanks for the bug, jackr 
[01:14] <jackr> np
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #102153 in malone "No "date-edit" field in the +edit page" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102153
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #102155 in malone "breadcrumb layout problems in Safari" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102155
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #102156 in launchpad "Page for leaving a team has two headings and no other text" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102156
[02:02] <sharms> I just wanted to let anyone involved with LP know that the beta looks fantastic.  The theme is top notch
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #102160 in launchpad "An @property replacement that reports AttributeErrors as PropertyFailedErrors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102160
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #102175 in launchpad-bazaar "Test page flow for unlogged in user registering a branch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102175
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #102180 in launchpad "Unclear who can add adminstrators to teams" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102180
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #102182 in launchpad "Why can I send a comment when changing a team membership, but not when adding one?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102182
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #102204 in launchpad "UbuntuForums username in Launchpad Profile" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102204
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #102215 in launchpad "Translations overview page is batched, but allows column sorting" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102215
[06:51] <ubotu> New bug: #102216 in malone "[malone]  Still finds an error when chosen dont know for package name" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102216
[08:49] <popey> woooooooooooah
[08:49] <popey> boatload of emails from support tracker
[08:50] <popey> someone expired a load of tickets by the look of it
[08:53] <popey> root@bishop:~# grep 2007-04-03 /var/log/exim4/mainlog | grep adelie.ubuntu.com | wc -l
[08:53] <popey> 254
[09:16] <carlos> morning!
[09:17] <mdke> morning carlos 
[09:22] <BjornT> popey: there's a script that automatically expires old tickets. previously it wasn't running, but it was started again now, so it had some tickets to expire.
[09:23] <popey> i suspected as much :)
[10:15] <sadleder> hi, any registry administrator there who can offer help?
[10:28] <imbrandon> jamesh, ping
[10:29] <jamesh> imbrandon: hi
[10:29] <imbrandon> heya
[10:29] <imbrandon> w.r.t 100079 makin a LP rdf namespace shouldnt be a blocker correct ?
[10:29] <Kuhrscher> carlos: Nice to see that k3b now uses the correct template in Rosetta. That's great. Are the upstream translations already in the import queue?
[10:30] <carlos> Kuhrscher: I think there were imported, but we didnt't import the .pot files 
[10:30] <carlos> so new translations were imported but hidden because obsolete .pot files
[10:31] <jamesh> imbrandon: we've already got an RDF ontology used by the product/project RDF dumps: https://launchpad.net/rdf
[10:31] <carlos> at least, I didn't see any .po file pending to be imported
[10:31] <Kuhrscher> carlos: I remember you said that, but actaully old translations are used...
[10:32] <jamesh> imbrandon: what I am saying is that if we want to add ssh public keys to the person/team RDF dump, then we'd either add the new properties to our ontology or find an existing ontology that can represent the data
[10:32] <Kuhrscher> carlos: The translations look quite incomplete atm and at least for german I know that this is incorrect.
[10:32] <jamesh> imbrandon: the wot ontology doesn't seem to cover SSH keys, so it would be incorrect to export data in the form you suggested
[10:33] <imbrandon> jamesh, ahh right, ok, i'm mainly just after the SSH info like me and jml and Fujitsu talked about yesterday
[10:33] <Kuhrscher> carlos: And I know about some strings we changend, which are still the old ones.
[10:33] <imbrandon> he sugested the bug, as far as the wot, thats not a big deal, only an ilistration
[10:33] <Fujitsu> jamesh: I looked last night for an existing namespace that might cover it, but I couldn't see one.
[10:34] <Kuhrscher> (changed upstream of course)
[10:34] <Fujitsu> Can somebody please confirm/prioritise/something bug #102253?
[10:34] <ubotu> Malone bug 102253 in malone "Tasks in some multi-task bugs now immutable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102253
[10:37] <imbrandon> jamesh, but yea, basicly it would cut down our requests from 90+ to 1 and also stop us from html screen scraping the team pages 
[10:37] <imbrandon> per sync
[10:43] <jamesh> Fujitsu/imbrandon: there isn't a problem with adding it to our own namespace (since we control it)
[10:43] <Fujitsu> jamesh: That's what I would have thought.
[10:44] <jamesh> if there is a suitable standard way of defining the property, we may be able to say that our representation is equivalent in the ontology
[10:47] <dholbach> heya
[10:48] <ajmitch> daniel!
[10:49] <dholbach> i get timeouts from bazaar.launchpad.net - anything known about that?
[10:49] <dholbach> (pulling from ~calamandrei/tangerine-icon-theme/ubuntu)
[10:49] <spiv> dholbach: http?
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #102273 in launchpad "product search shows description instead of summary" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102273
[10:51] <dholbach> spiv: sorry - it was a https link, works with http now
[10:51] <dholbach> thanks
[10:51] <imbrandon> jamesh, ok
[10:51] <spiv> dholbach: ah :)
[10:51] <jamesh> we should probably RT that
[10:52] <jamesh> I got https://codebrowse.launchpad.net fixed to redirect to http://codebrowse.launchpad.net
[10:52] <jamesh> which fixes a similar gotcha
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #102275 in launchpad "help.notepad not editable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102275
[10:58] <mitsuhiko> question to the developers :D
[10:58] <mitsuhiko> are you happy with ZOPE?
[11:07] <schwuk> mitsuhiko: are you not?
[11:07] <mitsuhiko> schwuk: well. i don't use it
[11:08] <mitsuhiko> but i heard terrible things in the german python channel :)
[11:08] <schwuk> mitsuhiko: I'm starting to explore it, so wondered why you asked
[11:14] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: first of all, we are using the Zope 3 component framework as a basis to build Launchpad.
[11:14] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: so if people were talking about experiences with Zope 2, they wouldn't necessarily apply
[11:15] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: that said, it does seem to have a steeper learning curve than some of the other frameworks
[11:15] <jamesh> however, I've run into limitations more frequently with some of the other frameworks
[11:16] <mitsuhiko> well. i'm used to run into limitations when working with frameworks. that's no news :)
[11:16] <mitsuhiko> jamesh: but you would recommend zope3?
[11:17] <mitsuhiko> well. learning curve is not the problem
[11:17] <mitsuhiko> it's important how something scales and if it's easy to maintain the sourcecode
[11:18] <Fujitsu> That's scaling.
[11:18] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: sure.
[11:18] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: note that for Launchpad we aren't using the ZODB for data storage
[11:19] <jamesh> instead using sqlobject to map data from Postgres to Python objects
[11:19] <jamesh> which we can then publish and hang views off of
[11:19] <mitsuhiko> sqlobject?
[11:19] <mitsuhiko> oh
[11:19] <jamesh> an object relational mapper
[11:19] <mitsuhiko> yeah. know it
[11:19] <mitsuhiko> i replaced with with sqlalchemy some time ago :)
[11:19] <Kuhrscher> carlos: If you take a look at the following page, you see that many languages have about 533 untranslated strings in Rosetta. That's quite exactly the number of new or changed strings in k3b 1.0.
[11:20] <jamesh> same principle
[11:20] <Kuhrscher> carlos: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/k3b/+pots/k3b
[11:20] <carlos> Kuhrscher: I got disconnected so I'm not sure whether you saw my answer...
[11:20] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: make your SQL classes implement appropriate interfaces, register views for those interfaces, and set up traversal to publish those objects
 Kuhrscher: I still don't see any .po file for k3b as pending
[11:20] <carlos> Kuhrscher: I will do a manual upload then
[11:21] <Kuhrscher> carlos: Ahh,ok, thanks :)
[11:21] <mitsuhiko> jamesh: sounds like a clean design
[11:21] <mitsuhiko> how many servers are working for launchpad?
[11:22] <carlos> Kuhrscher: I guess 0.12.17-1 is latest version with translations, right?
[11:22] <carlos> at least, that's the version we have in Feisty
[11:22] <Kuhrscher> No. The most recent is 1.0
[11:22] <carlos> and it matches k3b package
[11:22] <Kuhrscher> also in Feisty and it is 100% translated.
[11:22] <carlos> is it?
[11:22] <Fujitsu> I believe there are two running it, one as a frontend load-balancer, a postgres server, drescher for Soyuz...
[11:23] <Fujitsu> *running Zope
[11:23] <carlos> oh, bad source list in my sources.list
[11:23] <Kuhrscher> Carlos, on my fresh install it is.
[11:23] <carlos> fetching latest version
[11:23] <carlos> Kuhrscher: I found the problem
[11:23] <mitsuhiko> Fujitsu: so 4 in total?
[11:24] <Kuhrscher> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/k3b/k3b-i18n-1.0.tar.bz2?download
[11:24] <carlos> k3b-i18n was not updated
[11:24] <Fujitsu> I listed 5 there, but there are a heap more.
[11:24] <carlos> Kuhrscher: let me check with Riddell whether we could get that package updated
[11:25] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: there are 2 front end servers, each running two 6-thread app servers
[11:25] <spiv> mitsuhiko: "launchpad" is a large system.  There's more than just the webapp.
[11:25] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: there is a separate machine running as a database server, and there is a load balancer in front of the app servers
[11:25] <spiv> mitsuhiko: I guess you're just asking about the https://launchpad.net/ website that runs on zope 3, rather than the other bits?
[11:26] <mitsuhiko> spiv: well. i just referred to the zope part
[11:26] <spiv> mitsuhiko: right.  In that case, see jamesh's answer. :)
[11:27] <mitsuhiko> yeah. that sounds like zope3 is a major improvement or you guys just know how to handle the system
[11:27] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: for testing purposes, I just run a single app server instance locally
[11:28] <mitsuhiko> __doc__ from #python.de told me that they used 30 servers for a music webshop with about the same size as launchpad
[11:28] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: but you can fairly easily improve performance with more app server processes
[11:29] <mitsuhiko> jamesh: thanks for the information
[11:30] <jamesh> mitsuhiko: it's hard to say whether the webshop is comparable though.
[11:30] <jamesh> without knowing more details about how they had things set up
[11:30] <Kuhrscher> Carlos: Thank you, I have to leave now.
[11:31] <carlos> Kuhrscher: ok, cheers.
[11:32] <ajmitch> hm, codebrowse.lp.net broken, or am I just unlucky?
[11:35] <ubotu> New bug: #102253 in malone "Tasks in some multi-task bugs now immutable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102253
[11:35] <spiv> ajmitch: it just worked for me.  Sometimes the first view of a branch can be quite slow.
[11:36] <ajmitch> spiv: right, but timing out on a relatively small project branch isn't a good thing
[11:36] <Fujitsu> Gee, thanks ubotu. I only filed that 2 hours ago.
[11:52] <Fujitsu> jamesh: Bug #102253 has some more comments now, and it is getting stranger...
[11:52] <ubotu> Malone bug 102253 in malone "Tasks in some multi-task bugs now immutable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102253
[11:53] <mitsuhiko> hmmm. http://imagepaste.nulldigital.net/viewimage.php?id=154
[11:53] <mitsuhiko> got that screenshot a few minutes ago
[11:53] <mitsuhiko> is it supposed to look like this in swift? :)
[11:54] <Fujitsu> mitsuhiko: That's what you get for using browsers that I've never heard of.
[11:54] <jamesh> spiv: just listening to Mary on the radio
[11:55] <ajmitch> Fujitsu: I believe swiftfox is a mangled, non-free firefox
[11:55] <mitsuhiko> Fujitsu: according to the swift webpage it's webkit for windows
[11:55] <mitsuhiko> so, the safari engine
[11:55] <ajmitch> so not swiftfox?
[11:55] <ajmitch> confusing
[11:56] <Fujitsu> ajmitch: That's Swiftfox, and it's really wrong, and lots of people install it on Ubuntu, and then the world explodes.
[11:57] <Fujitsu> You learn horrible, horrible things from reading the fora.
[11:57] <ajmitch> and we get the bugs, yay
[11:57] <carlos> see you later
[11:57] <Fujitsu> Bye carlos.
[11:57] <mitsuhiko> Fujitsu: what's the problem with swiftfox?
[11:57] <Fujitsu> mitsuhiko: ... it's non-free and stupid.
[11:57] <mitsuhiko> well. i never tried it
[11:57] <Fujitsu> Is there a loophole in one of the Mozilla licenses that allows them to do that?
[11:58] <mitsuhiko> Fujitsu: allows them to what. build it?
[11:58] <Fujitsu> mitsuhiko: Not distribute source.
[11:58] <Kmos> mitsuhiko: the problem is.. it sucks :-) Mozilla Firefox r0x!
[11:58] <mitsuhiko> Fujitsu: oh. didn't know that
[11:58] <Fujitsu> No, Firefox sucks too.
[11:58] <Fujitsu> Epiphany is better.
[11:59] <mitsuhiko> well. i suppose they don't alter the source
[12:01] <mitsuhiko> Fujitsu: http://getswiftfox.com/source.htm
[12:02] <Fujitsu> They must be changing the source, because the title is different.
[12:03] <Fujitsu> How is it legal to distribute the binaries under another license!?
[12:04] <Kmos> Fujitsu: it uses gecko :)
[12:04] <jamesh> Fujitsu: commented on the bug
[12:04] <Fujitsu> jamesh: Thanks.
[12:04] <jamesh> I'm pretty sure it is a dupe too.
[12:05] <jamesh> I've marked it as duplicate of bug 81014
[12:05] <ubotu> Malone bug 81014 in malone "Don't assume entered package is a binary package" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81014
[12:06] <Fujitsu> jamesh: Indeed, though it really should leave the assigned package alone when changing things on the task.
[12:07] <Fujitsu> Strange coincidence that it was duplicated and reported again today...
[12:10] <mitsuhiko> Fujitsu: apparently the webkit rendering engine has a problem with the amount of nested divs
[12:11] <mitsuhiko> no idea if that happens on os x too, but i doubt it
[12:27] <ubotu> New bug: #102296 in malone "Bug in Screenshot during using Google Earth" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102296
[12:36] <kalikiana_> Er.. the design has changed a 'bit' it seems?
[12:37] <Hobbsee> yes.  beta became public
[12:37] <kalikiana_> May I say that I liked the old design way better.
[12:39] <kalikiana_> Not only because of the looks, also about usability.
[12:40] <jsgotangco> oh yeah?
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #102301 in blueprint "Border around dependency tree doesn't look good" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102301
[12:45] <Fujitsu> kalikiana_: What usability issues have you found with the new one?
[12:47] <kalikiana_> For example the font looks washed out.
[12:48] <kalikiana_> And I miss all the now hidden links around the page which were available immediately before.
[12:54] <pochu> kalikiana_: known issues :)
[12:54] <pochu> kalikiana_: bug 82344
[12:54] <ubotu> Malone bug 82344 in launchpad "The beta's font size is too small" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/82344
[12:55] <pochu> kalikiana_: and bug 88342
[12:55] <ubotu> Malone bug 88342 in launchpad "portlets should be expanded by default" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88342
[12:55] <pochu> kalikiana_: feel free to comment them :)
[12:56] <kalikiana_> pochu, Now I'm a bit releaved :)
[12:56] <pochu> kalikiana_: cool :)
[12:57] <pochu> btw, I love the new design
[12:59] <kalikiana_> I guess the overall design choice depends on personal taste. Maybe after those two issues are fixed one can have a simple skin support?
[01:00] <Fujitsu> kalikiana_: http://err.no/src/lp_expandportlets.user.js is a greasemonkey script for expanding the portlets.
[01:03] <kalikiana_> Fujitsu, Thank you - but I'll rather wait for a change in launchpad.
[01:04] <SteveA> we'll probably make your browser remember each portlet's state of visibility
[01:04] <SteveA> so, you need to expand the ones you want just once
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> how do you reassign a bug to a different package? I filed mine under the wrong package - need to move it now to kdesktop binary for ubuntu.
[01:05] <Fujitsu> LeeJunFan: Click on the name of the package on the bug, and type the name.
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> Fujitsu: you mean under "Affects" to change the source package?
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> I thought I could just click the name in the title, but that doesn't seem to work any more.
[01:08] <Fujitsu> LeeJunFan: Under Affects, yes. I don't think you could ever do the latter of those.
[01:29] <cprov> good morning, folks.
[01:30] <Fujitsu> Hi cprov.
[01:40] <carlos> cprov: morning
[01:41] <cprov> carlos: morning, dude
[01:47] <carlos> LaserJock: btw I forgot to tell you that edubuntu's templates are now available: https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/edubuntu-docs/
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> on the new launchpad UI for bugs, is it posilbe to jump to a bug report?
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> the options been taken off the front page, and the default 'bugs' page doesnt have it either
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> (bugs. also breaks quite horribly at 600x800)
[02:09] <carlos> Kamping_Kaiser: https://launchpad.net/bugs/bug-number still works here
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> carlos, thanks. i never seem to remember that url though :/
[02:10] <Kamping_Kaiser> *uses it for this one*
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> filed a bug on the UI... it should appeaer here soon?
[02:18] <BjornT> Kamping_Kaiser: you can also jump to a bug by searching for the bug number on https://bugs.launchpad.net/
[02:19] <Kamping_Kaiser> BjornT, but where?
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> i get what you mean
[02:21] <BjornT> Kamping_Kaiser: the bug you filed should show up here, but it might take a while since the mail servers seem a bit busy.
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> BjornT, they were taking a while yesterday, its no rush, it'll get dealt with somehow
[02:25] <ubotu> New bug: #102331 in launchpad "Launchpad 1.0 UI breaks at 800x600" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102331
[02:25] <totalwormage> grin
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe
[02:28] <indraveni> mrevell, hi
[02:28] <indraveni> mrevell, I dint get any mail from anyone?
[02:31] <jb-home> How do I remove a person from a group that I accidentally added?
[02:31] <jb-home> It claims today's date is in the past, and I don't want him to have write access to the glibc packaging for a day.
[02:31] <mrevell> indraveni: Hi.
[02:32] <matsubara> jb-home: disable his membership
[02:32] <matsubara> jb-home: $team/+member/$membername I think
[02:33] <jb-home> Weird, I was trying that a moment ago, and it was telling me that I had an invalid date, so I tried adding one.
[02:33] <jb-home> matsubara: Thanks!
[02:33] <indraveni> mrevell, I want to use launchpad, but ?
[02:33] <mrevell> indraveni: I spoke to Elliot (statik) and he assured me he assured me he'd get in contact with you.
[02:33] <indraveni> mrevell, ok
[02:34] <mrevell> indraveni: I'm sorry you haven't received an email yet. When he is at his desk (as he is in the USA) I'll speak to him again.
[02:34] <indraveni> mrevell, thankyou very much.
[02:35] <bac>  indraveni:  i work closely with elliot and will bring your matter to his attention.  can you tell me briefly what the issue is?
[02:36] <indraveni> bac, I want to know how to use launchpad
[02:37] <indraveni> bac, I already registered our distro with launchpad, but I am not knowing what are the features allowed to me and how to use them
[02:38] <bac> indraveni: ah, so it is a distro question.
[02:38] <indraveni> bac, yes, 
[02:38] <bac> indraveni: i'll chat with elliot as soon as he arrives today and we'll be back in touch.  are you going to be around this channel for a while?
[02:38] <indraveni> bac, I am working for a debian based distribution in India, and interested to use launchapd for pachakge versioning, bug tracking etc
[02:39] <indraveni> bac, I am from India, and so, by 7:00 Pm, I will quit
[02:40] <bac> indraveni: please remind me of your UTC time offset
[02:40] <indraveni> bac, 12 hrs forward to US timings
[02:41] <galdor> Hi there.  Is this the correct channel to discuss a problem with the ubuntu wikiname created for me when I registered an account on launchpad?
[02:41] <matsubara> galdor: yes. what's up?
[02:42] <bac> indraveni: as you know there are four time zones in the continental US.  let's simplify, please tell me how much longer you will be around today.  20 minutes?
[02:43] <indraveni> bac, oops sorry
[02:43] <indraveni> bac, I will be for another hour
[02:43] <popey> is it possible to get my wiki wiki name changed to be camel case?
[02:43] <galdor> Thanks matsubara.  My Launchpad account name is ChrisSchoonbee but the generated wikiname is Chrisschoonbee.  I would like to change it to ChrisSchoonbee
[02:43] <popey> heh, I have the same issue galdor :)
[02:44] <bac> indraveni: we'll be back in touch either before you take off for the night or via email.  thanks!
[02:44] <popey> although we have different names of course
[02:44] <indraveni> bac, bac thankyou
[02:44] <galdor> I see :)
[02:47] <matsubara> galdor: I think you can't change that.
[02:48] <galdor> That's irritating.  I wonder why not?
[02:50] <galdor> popey: Did you also try to use "Update wiki names"  on your launchpad homepage?
[02:50] <popey> can an admin not poke the database directly?
[02:51] <matsubara> galdor: I don't know the rationale. You're welcome to file a bug about it.
[02:51] <popey> galdor: yes
[02:51] <popey> it fixed it :)
[02:52] <popey> thanks
[02:54] <galdor> popey: How did you do it exactly?  
[02:54] <crane_work> Grettings
[02:54] <galdor> Did you leave any of the fields blank?
[02:54] <crane_work> I have a request for the launch admins.
[02:55] <crane_work> Not sure if this is the place to ask or if I need to contact someone via email
[02:55] <popey> galdor: i went to https://launchpad.net/~alanpope then clicked "update wiki names", there is only one entry "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/"  "Alanpope", I changed it to "AlanPope" and clicked Save. Went to launchpad and in the top right it now says "AlanPope" and not "Alanpope"
[02:56] <ubotu> New bug: #102257 in rosetta "Add a TranslationKarmaCache table" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102257
[02:58] <galdor> popey: Thanks. I think I have managed to do it.  The screen is not very intuitive to my mind.  I assumed the fields underneath the title "New wiki name" are where I
[02:59] <SteveA> crane_work: this is a good place to ask about it.
[02:59] <galdor> should put the new name and the section above was just giving me my current name, not that I should change it there.
[03:01] <galdor> popey: and I got an error message about not being able to have two wikinames.  Any way, alls well that ends well.
[03:01] <popey> :)
[03:05] <crane_work> SteveA: Thanks, I was in the process of creating aLoCo team page for Alabama last night and got off track
[03:05] <crane_work> I actually created a project page instead of a team page.
[03:06] <crane_work>  I did find the correct place to create the team page but I do not know how to remove the project page 
[03:06] <crane_work> Is it possible for me to do this or will if have to be someone from Launchpad?
[03:06] <SteveA> what is the project?
[03:07] <crane_work> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-us-alabama
[03:07] <crane_work> I created the team under ubuntu-us-al
[03:09] <indraveni> crane_work, do you have any idea whethe we need to pay for using some of the features of launchapd or not?
[03:09] <SteveA> crane_work: okay, I just made that project "inactive"
[03:09] <SteveA> crane_work: I'm interested that you initially thought that registering a project was the right thing to do
[03:10] <SteveA> crane_work: what can we do to help others avoid that misapprehension?
[03:10] <welterde> SteveA: could you please turn inactive the project xia?
[03:11] <SteveA> welterde: why?
[03:11] <SteveA> it looks like a legitimate project, and not a team mistakenly registered as a project
[03:11] <welterde> it turned out to be useless, because i wanted that to be an umrella project
[03:12] <welterde> but it turned out, that this is impossible
[03:12] <SteveA> if you're the owner of the project, please change its description to "please make this project inactive"
[03:12] <SteveA> and then I'll know that the owner of the project has requested it
[03:12] <SteveA> rather than some random person on irc :-)
[03:12] <welterde> moment...
[03:12] <welterde> done
[03:13] <SteveA> welterde: ok, done
[03:13] <welterde> great
[03:13] <SteveA> crane_work: I need to go.  If you have any feedback for me on this issue, please talk with matsubara about it.
[03:14] <crane_work> SteveA: when I went to register the project I started at the home page and clicked register. My thinking was that the group would be considered a project in general from launchpad.
[03:16] <welterde> now just creating the umbrella project xia-project is left
[03:17] <matsubara> welterde: did you request that in the ticket? if yes, it's better to leave it open.
[03:17] <welterde> no i didnt
[03:17] <welterde> i was about to create an new one for that
[03:17] <crane_work> I found the way to create a team after some searching under people>list all teams>register a team
[03:17] <welterde> at least not directly
[03:20] <matsubara> crane_work: I think you're right. It's indeed not very obvious how to register a new team.
[03:21] <crane_work> I hope I did not cause any trouble with my mistake
[03:21] <matsubara> crane_work: not at all. Your feedback is much appreciated.
[03:22] <welterde> matsubara: created a new ticket for that umbrella project
[03:24] <matsubara> crane_work: just to make it clear, you thought that the projects in launchpad were another terminology for group or you thought that registering a new project would automatically register a new group?
[03:24] <matsubara> welterde: do you have the URL handy?
[03:25] <welterde> matsubara: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/4595
[03:28] <matsubara> welterde: which projects do you want under that project group?
[03:30] <welterde> currently xia-core
[03:30] <welterde> missing are some, which i didnt enter to lp right now
[03:32] <crane_work> matsubara: When I went to register of the front page, I noticed that it said project but thought the group would be considered a project. I did not  know launchpad would consider them different. 
[03:32] <crane_work> I thought I would be able to specify after I had it set up.
[03:33] <crane_work> May setting an option when one selects register. An option to register a project or group.
[03:34] <crane_work> That's jsut a suggestion, I thiink launchpad is awsome and maybe I jsut plain screwed up and missed something when I started. If so just rightme off as an idiot
[03:34] <crane_work> lol
[03:38] <matsubara> crane_: I'll file a bug and include your suggestion. thanks for the feedback. 
[03:39] <statik> indraveni: ping
[03:39] <indraveni> statik, yes
[03:41] <statik> hi indraveni, I sent mail yesterday but I see in the IRC log that you did not get any mail from me
[03:41] <statik> indraveni: could you privmsg me your email address so I can check it?
[03:41] <statik> indraveni: I supposed I should introduce myself, I am Elliot Murphy :)
[03:44] <indraveni> statik, I dint receive any mail
[03:45] <indraveni> statik, I knew you, as mreval informed me about you
[03:45] <indraveni> statik, my mail address is indraveni@yahoo.co.in
[03:46] <indraveni> statik, please add a CC t indravenik@cdac.in 
[03:46] <statik> indraveni: ok great, I will try again
[03:46] <statik> indraveni: have you been able to try out the bug tracking system now that BOSS is registered as a distro?
[03:47] <statik> https://launchpad.net/boss
[03:47] <indraveni> statik, no, actually I am not finding a way to startup
[03:47] <statik> indraveni: also, now that the beta has launched there are some very nice options for branding your pages in launchpad, so if you have official logos or anything for BOSS you can upload those and they will be displayed
[03:48] <statik> indraveni: are you able to login to launchpad.net and look at the BOSS page?
[03:49] <indraveni> statik, oh yeah, its a complete different look displayed here
[03:49] <indraveni> statik, yes
[03:49] <statik> indraveni: I see that you are an administrator for the BOSS team in launchpad, and you have 6 members signed up already, so you should be all set to start adding bugs to the system
[03:50] <statik> indraveni: or new specifications/blueprints https://blueprints.launchpad.net/boss/
[03:50] <indraveni> statik, ya I am checking, but statik, initially.. I am interested in packages list
[03:51] <indraveni> statik, yes I am able to add a bluerpint for BOSS
[03:51] <indraveni> statik, how to upload our packages list
[03:52] <indraveni> statik, ok, you please send a mail to me regarding all these, I need to attend a meeting now,
[03:52] <statik> indraveni: I'm not sure about how to upload the packages list, I'll have to look into that and get back to you
[03:53] <statik> indraveni: enjoy your meeting! glad we got to chat finally
[03:53] <indraveni> statik, ok, please let me know about package uploading also
[03:53] <indraveni> statik, yes :)
[03:53] <indraveni> statik, thankyou very much
[03:53] <indraveni> statik, expecting a mail tomorrow morning
[03:53] <indraveni> statik, thankyou again
[03:53] <indraveni> statik, bye
[03:55] <crane_> one more question: is the any way to link ubuntu-us-alabama with ubuntu-us-al?
[03:55] <ubotu> New bug: #102357 in launchpad-answers "TypeError when requesting +tickets on an empty project" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102357
[03:55] <cprov> indraveni: I'm attending a meeting now, but send me an email with all your question about pkg uploading. I will deal with it ASAP
[03:56] <indraveni> cprov, please give me your email address
[03:57] <matsubara> crane_: I filed bug 102361 and subscribed you to it. If you had anything else to add, please add a comment there. thanks again.
[03:57] <ubotu> Malone bug 102361 in launchpad "It's not obvious how to register a team" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102361
[03:57] <cprov> indraveni: cprov@canonical.com 
[03:57] <indraveni> cprov, ok, thanks
[03:57] <cprov> indraveni: np
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #102361 in launchpad "It's not obvious how to register a team" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102361
[04:01] <crane_> matsubara: thanks!
[04:03] <indraveni> statik, how can I upload boss logo in launchpad
[04:03] <indraveni> ?
[04:03] <statik> indraveni: when you are logged in, you should be able to set logos for the team on one of the admin pages
[04:04] <statik> indraveni: it's on the +branding page
[04:05] <crane_> matsubara:  will I be able to link the two addresses? If not it's no big deal, just thought it would help people looking for the Alabama team
[04:05] <statik> indraveni: you should see a link in the Actions box on the left when you are at the BOSS team page
[04:05] <indraveni> statik, yes , its there, but how did you find this? from main how to come to this page, (not by url editing)
[04:06] <indraveni> statik, yes got it
[04:06] <statik> indraveni: I went to the BOSS distro page, then to your page, then clicked on the link for the BOSS team
[04:06] <matsubara> crane_: sorry, don't understand what you mean. Which addresses?
[04:07] <crane_> matsubara: ubuntu-us-al and ubuntu-is-alabama in launchpad.
[04:09] <matsubara> crane_: right, ubuntu-us-alabama is now inactive, which means nobody will be able to access that page and it shouldn't return in search results. If people search for ubuntu alabama they will get a link to the ubuntu-us-al team only.
[04:10] <crane_> Thanks so much for your help.
[04:11] <crane_> I really enjoy being envolved with launchpad and ubuntu
[04:14] <welterde> matsubara: so how will things further progress on the umbrella project xia-project, do you know that?
[04:16] <matsubara> welterde: I assigned the ticket to one of the LP admins. He'll likely create the requested project group and assign the ownership to you. After that you can add other projects under it.
[04:19] <welterde> matsubara: ah, ok
[04:22] <Yoe> hi! I'd like to point out that 1) the "home page" listed at http://launchpad.net/nbd is incorrect (should be http://nbd.sourceforge.net), and 2) nbd switched to subversion from cvs a while back (so you may want to update your "code import" stuff, however that works)
[04:22] <Yoe> HTH, HAND :)
[04:44] <matsubara> Yoe: do you want to own that project (in Launchpad)?
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #102381 in rosetta "Tarballs containing more than po/pot-files cannot be uploaded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102381
[04:50] <ubotu> New bug: #102382 in rosetta "Translations are getting marked as "needing review" on each upload, preventing complete translation of Ubuntu for the release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102382
[04:55] <newz2000> Something happened and I can't figure out how to see a list of bugs for ubuntu-website... when I go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/ I see a pie chart and things don't work like I'm expecting.
[04:55] <newz2000> can anyone suggest how I can see a list of bugs that aren't closed?
[04:56] <salgado> newz2000, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bugs
[04:57] <newz2000> ah. Is there a link on that page somewhere that goes there?
[04:57] <salgado> I can't see it, but doing an empty search should have the same effect
[04:57] <newz2000> ok, thanks
[05:00] <Lumiere> how would one point out a typo in a link that was user entered in LP?
[05:00] <Lumiere> (the link to the external website on https://launchpad.net/sprints/ues-sevilla-2007/ )
[05:02] <SteveA> Lumiere: look at the portlet that says "Meeting details"
[05:02] <SteveA> open that, look at the registrant
[05:03] <SteveA> contact the registrant and tell that person
[05:03] <Lumiere> ok
[05:03] <Lumiere> I was just hoping for something central :)
[05:06] <ignas> hi
[05:06] <Lumiere> hi ignas 
[05:06] <ignas> a buglet report - https://launchpad.net/~ignas , what did you do with my picture?
[05:09] <bdmurray> I just noticed that support tracker can auto-expire tickets.  Is that feature planned for lp at all?
[05:11] <Lumiere> ignas: looks like the pic you put up doesn't match the size that they now require
[05:12] <ignas> i know
[05:12] <ignas> but still, deprecating all the user uploaded images is a funny thing to do
[05:12] <Lumiere> I have to agree
[05:12] <ignas> ok, not deprecating, scaling it ...
[05:29] <ddaa> wow, help.launchpad.net is themed!
[05:35] <ignas> "This is a private beta. Please do not post screenshots publicly. Bug reports and feedback welcome." is this still true?
[05:35] <ignas> if not - why can i see it in help.launchpad.net?
[05:35] <ddaa> oh, well, that's a bug...
[05:35] <ddaa> also the wheres-my-looking-glass font size
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #102392 in launchpad "search for a person popup runs off the end of the screen" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102392
[05:36] <ddaa> but it's still much more shiny than vanilla moin
[05:37] <ignas> ubotu: hi
[05:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #launchpad!
[05:38] <ddaa> ignas: don't you know it's a bot? Or are you just bored?
[05:38] <ignas> ddaa: just testing :) does it have a personality?
[05:39] <ignas> and is it open source?
[05:39] <ddaa> I do not think it actually has a psychiatrist feature...
[05:39] <ddaa> it's almost certainly free software, it's community stuff
[05:39] <ddaa> seveas wrote it
[05:39] <ddaa> he's not around apparently
[05:53] <welterde> kiko: you there?
[05:58] <LarstiQ> ignas: iirc it's a supybot
[05:58] <LarstiQ> but I might be wrong
[05:58] <ignas> LarstiQ: seems so
[05:58] <ignas> LarstiQ: i hoped it was something better :/
[05:59] <welterde> ignas: like?
[05:59] <ignas> welterde: no idea, that's the problem
[05:59] <kiko> hey welterde 
[05:59] <kiko> how goes it
[05:59] <welterde> well well
[06:00] <welterde> kiko: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+ticket/4595
[06:02] <welterde> would be nice if you could create that now :)
[06:10] <cromo> Hi. I am struggling to search for a bug report by just having its number. I was easy with prev layout, now I can't manage to do it.
[06:10] <cromo> Am I blind or you missed something?
[06:10] <cromo> *It was easy(...)
[06:11] <matsubara> cromo: launchpad.net/bugs/$bug-number should redirect to the right place
[06:11] <spiv> cromo: from https://launchpad.net/, click on the big "Bugs" icon, and then enter the number in the search field.
[06:11] <cromo> I AM blind, indeed
[06:12] <kiko> matsubara, bug and oops: https://answers.launchpad.net/xia-project
[06:12] <kiko> damn
[06:12] <welterde> hu?
[06:13] <kiko> world hold on
[06:13] <welterde> k
[06:14] <kiko> welterde, tell me a product name?
[06:14] <kiko> you're the owner of the project now
[06:14] <welterde> kiko: yeah
[06:14] <welterde> thx
[06:15] <cromo> ok thanks guys. keep up the good work. bye.
[06:15] <welterde> workx
[06:15] <kiko> welterde, add some products to it to stop it from crashing when viewed from the answers application
[06:16] <welterde> already added one
[06:16] <kiko> thanks
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #102441 in malone "Web interface to reply to a comment" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102441
[06:56] <ubotu> New bug: #102449 in rosetta "upstream translations doesn't update rosetta ones when it should" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102449
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #102455 in launchpad "codebrowse.launchpad.net times out" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102455
[07:26] <mitsuhiko> hmm. interesting
[07:26] <mitsuhiko> their logo looks like the ubuntu one, their concept like facebook: http://studi.net/
[07:26] <mitsuhiko> who wants to sue them?
[07:27] <mitsuhiko> :D
[07:59] <kiko> not me!
[08:02] <LaserJock> hi kiko 
[08:03] <kiko> hey LaserJock 
[08:03] <kiko> how's life?
[08:03] <LaserJock> decent
[08:03] <LaserJock> really busy at work, etc.
[08:03] <LaserJock> pretty excited about Beta going public
[08:03] <LaserJock> I loved seeing all the "Fix Released" bugmails :-)
[08:04] <kiko> yeah, very cool
[08:04] <kiko> have you noticed the bugmail footer going out?
[08:19] <LaserJock> kiko: oh yes
[08:20] <LaserJock> kiko: I was pretty excited about that one
[08:20] <LaserJock> I went through my misc LP bugmail folder and looked at where they were coming from :-)
[08:20] <kiko> heh
[08:20] <kiko> cool :)
[08:20] <LaserJock> usually it's pretty obvious
[08:21] <LaserJock> but there were a number that I really didn't know why
[08:21] <LaserJock> unfortunately right now I belong to 15 teams
[08:21] <LaserJock> luckily I don't get bugmail from all of them
[08:22] <LaserJock> but sometimes it's confusing
[08:22] <LaserJock> especially if somebody misassigns/misfiles a bug
[08:58] <mongolito404> How should I update a translation template in Rosetta ? Simply re-upload the .pot file using the "Upload a file" page ?
[09:01] <kiko> mongolito404, yes. you can upload to different product series if it applies
[09:01] <mongolito404> kiko: no, same serie (trunk), I want to update the existing template. Wouldn't it erase existing translation ?
[09:02] <kiko> mongolito404, existing translations will remain there associated to strings which have not changed.
[09:02] <kiko> so it's basically safe
[09:11] <mongolito404> My file is flagged as "Needs Review" in the Rosetta Import queue ? Does all template update needs manual review ?
[09:13] <kiko> sometimes
[09:25] <orospakr> New beta looks pretty spiffy! although, is there a plan for making it Free Software?
[09:26] <manchicken> I just wanted to stop by to say that launchpad is looking incredible.
[09:26] <radix> orospakr: https://launchpad.net/faq <-- see the question "Is Launchpad open source? Will it be?"
[09:27] <manchicken> It works beautifully on konq.
[09:27] <manchicken> Just wanted to say thanks.
[09:27] <orospakr> radix: ah, OK. thanks! :)
[09:33] <Yoe> matsubara: no, thanks :)
[09:46] <fabbione> any LP admin around?
[09:48] <fabbione> kiko: consigliere... 
[09:48] <kiko> yo!
[09:48] <kiko> on the phone
[09:49] <fabbione> kiko: hey.. no problem - no rush.. i need to know who should i contact to get an LP account closed/removed because the user lost his password
[09:49] <fabbione> kiko: it's a dear friend of mine that created another one.. so one can be removed
[09:49] <kiko> he should merge them
[09:49] <fabbione> what's the url to merge with beta?
[09:49] <fabbione> there is no direct link to people from the main page
[09:49] <kiko> look at /people/
[09:51] <fabbione> kiko: thanks a lot my consigliere.. the family will not forget your help
[09:52] <kiko> found the link?
[09:52] <kiko> off the phone now
[09:52] <kiko> yeah, good point -- no navigation to people from the front page. 
[09:52] <kiko> but it's easy to get to people from the user's home page
[09:52] <kiko> and from there merge away
[09:52] <fabbione> assuming you know that there is one
[09:53] <kiko> there is one..?
[09:53] <fabbione> sorry.. that you know about a persone home page
[09:53] <fabbione> if you are new to LP you might not know about ~user
[09:54] <kiko> well
[09:54] <kiko> you can click on your name in the green bar
[09:54] <kiko> that takes you to your home page
[09:54] <kiko> indeed it is not entirely obvious but it could be much worse :)
[09:55] <fabbione> yeah it could be worst.. it could be in Launchpad!
[09:55] <fabbione> oh hold on.. this is lp
[09:56] <kiko> don fabbione, we have a long running friendship between the families...
[09:56] <fabbione> kiko: i would never think otherwise
[09:57] <fabbione> our families.. my family is your family
[10:02] <bac> kiko: you pinged me a while back.  did you want something?
[10:02] <kiko> bac, I wanted to say hi. :)
[10:02] <bac> kiko: mission accomplished
[10:10] <gnomefreak> can Lp users set up a repo on LP or is it stricly bzr?
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #102542 in malone "marking a bug as a duplicate doesn't hide it from searches" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102542
[10:12] <kiko> gnomefreak, I don't think I quite understand what you mean.
[10:12] <gnomefreak> kiko: i would like a repo where i can upload packages to. i havent found an easy way tot set one up with my personal site so i was asking if LP had something like that
[10:13] <gnomefreak> s/tot/to
[10:13] <kiko> gnomefreak, oh, you mean a package repository. the answer is Not Yet. :)
[10:13] <gnomefreak> kiko: ty :) not yet is good ;)
[10:25] <ubotu> New bug: #102545 in launchpad "TraversalError when sourcepackage doesn't have packaging information for older distroreleases." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102545
[10:52] <bytefoo> how can i delete my launchpad account?
[10:53] <LaserJock> bytefoo: I think you need to file a request ticket
[10:54] <bytefoo> Ohh ok, thanks.
[11:01] <blueyed_> IMHO the filter (e.g. on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=usability, where it's tag=usability) should get displayed in the page itself.
[11:01] <blueyed_> I could not find a bug for Malone about it. Should I file it?
[11:03] <kiko> blueyed_, what do you mean?
[11:04] <blueyed_> kiko: there's no hint that a filter is used.
[11:04] <kiko> oh
[11:04] <kiko> you mean that the search terms being used should be displayed on the search page?
[11:04] <blueyed_> The same when using "Advanced search". If it says "No open bugs found.." this is not really true.. :)
[11:04] <kiko> there's a bug filed for that.
[11:04] <kiko> yeah, that's a reported bug
[11:05] <kiko> matsubara might know which one
[11:05] <blueyed_> yes, that's what I mean.
[11:05] <matsubara> blueyed_: bug 28697
[11:06] <kiko> is it private mebbe?
[11:06] <blueyed_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/28697 :) thanks.
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #102567 in launchpad-bazaar "Broken branch traversal in Person context" [Low,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102567
[11:06] <matsubara> kiko: no, it's not private. LP timed out on ubotu.
[11:07] <kiko> that's depressing
[11:07] <ubotu> Malone bug 28697 in malone "Bug lists should show current search filter" [Medium,Confirmed]  
[11:07] <matsubara> I thought it used a cache or something
[11:08] <matsubara> maybe it didn't have that one in the cache anyway.
[11:27] <ubotu> New bug: #102575 in malone "main bug page for Projects points to the overview one" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102575
[11:29] <LaserJock> man, we sure got past 100000 in a hurry
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #102599 in malone "totem-mozilla won't play mpg movies in firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102599