[12:40] <crimsun> newz2000: if you're still present, I need /proc/asound/card0/codec* pastebinned/added to #92171
[12:40] <newz2000> crimsun: you just caught me, sure thing
[12:40] <newz2000> crimsun: there are no codec*
[12:41] <newz2000> oh wait
[12:41] <crimsun> there must be.
[12:41] <newz2000> I forgot the ls at the beginning and tab completion was looking for executable files
[12:43] <newz2000> crimsun: done
[12:44] <newz2000> if you need more, let me know, I'll be back for just a little bit in 30 min, then again for longer in a few hours
[12:44] <crimsun> ok, looking now.
[12:44] <crimsun> I'll likely need you to test some kernel modules
[01:10] <crimsun> newz2000: please ping me when you return, thanks.
[02:27] <pradalover> I need some help
[02:27] <pradalover> my sound isn't working
[04:37] <newz2000> crimsun: I'm here, are you still around?
[04:43] <crimsun> newz2000: hi
[04:43] <crimsun> give me a sec to log in
[04:43] <newz2000> crimsun: hey! sure
[04:48] <crimsun> newz2000: can you try the following, please?  kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[04:48] <newz2000> crimsun: do I need to save my work before I do this?
[04:48] <crimsun> newz2000: it's a good idea, yes, but I don't anticipate it exploding
[04:49] <newz2000> ok, two things hapened...
[04:50] <newz2000> volume control applet died unexpectedly...
[04:50] <crimsun> the mixer applet should pop up a notification bubble
[04:50] <crimsun> right
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error running install command for snd
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error running install command for snd
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error inserting snd_timer (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-timer.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd_pcm (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/core/snd-pcm.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error running install command for snd_pcm
[04:50] <newz2000> WARNING: Error inserting snd_hda_codec (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <newz2000> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-13-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[04:50] <crimsun> ah, blarg
[04:50] <newz2000> wow, tht's a lot
[04:51] <crimsun> kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}') && sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=auto
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/audio*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/mixer*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof: status error on /dev/snd/*: No such file or directory
[04:52] <newz2000> lsof 4.77
[04:52] <newz2000>  latest revision: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/
[04:52] <newz2000>  latest FAQ: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/FAQ
[04:52] <newz2000>  latest man page: ftp://lsof.itap.purdue.edu/pub/tools/unix/lsof/lsof_man
[04:52] <newz2000>  usage: [-?abhlnNoOPRstUvVX]  [+|-c c]  [+|-d s]  [+D D]  [+|-f] 
[04:52] <newz2000>  [-F [f] ]  [-g [s] ]  [-i [i] ]  [+|-L [l] ]  [+m [m] ]  [+|-M]  [-o [o] ] 
[04:52] <newz2000>  [-p s]  [+|-r [t] ]  [-S [t] ]  [-T [t] ]  [-u s]  [+|-w]  [-x [fl] ]  [--]  [names] 
[04:52] <newz2000> Use the ``-h'' option to get more help information.
[04:52] <crimsun> yeah, that's ok.
[04:52] <newz2000> kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec]  pid | jobspec ... or kill -l [sigspec] 
[04:52] <crimsun> it should still continue with modprobe -r
[04:52] <crimsun> you can verify with:  lsmod |grep ^snd_hda_intel
[04:53] <newz2000> yeah, I got a line returned from that
[04:53] <newz2000> snd_hda_intel          21912  0 
[04:53] <crimsun> great.
[04:53] <crimsun> Is `aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav' audible?  (It may not be; you may need to adjust the element levels using `alsamixer')
[04:54] <newz2000> I got audible sound!
[04:54] <crimsun> ok, how is the perceptive loudness?
[04:55] <newz2000> ooh, more sounds
[04:56] <crimsun> i.e., is it 2.6.20-8.14-"loud"?
[04:57] <newz2000> Fortunately my laptop has a physical volume control. :-)
[04:57] <crimsun> sorry, but I can't interpret whether that means the perceptive loudness regression is still present with model=auto
[04:58] <newz2000> sorry, I thought you were making a joke... I think the sounds is excellent now
[04:58] <crimsun> ok, then that's a fairly straightforward one-line revert. Thanks for confirming.
[04:59] <newz2000> sweet
[05:02] <crimsun> (Sorry it has taken so long; I've been swamped with work.)
[05:02] <newz2000> no problem, I'lm glad to have a solution in the pipe line. Thought I might have to live with edgy for ever. :-)
[05:23] <dac_> when online, after 10 mins. or so, the page freezes up, WHY?
[07:09] <xipietotec> I have a bad bug related to updating kernel images in feisty I'm not sure how to resolve
[07:11] <xipietotec> but 98911
[07:11] <xipietotec> bug 98911
[07:12] <xipietotec> pfft....okay https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/98911
[04:57] <BenC> mjg59: ping
[04:58] <mjg59> BenC: Hi
[05:18] <gicmo> Any news on: bug 96480 ? Is there something missing?
[06:00] <_ion> benc: How are you planning to implement the nvidia thing? I'm thinking something like this, but you probably have a better idea: have libgl1-mesa-glx, nvidia-glx etc. put libGL.so.1 etc. to /usr/lib/glx/mesa, /usr/lib/glx/nvidia-9631, /usr/lib/glx/nvidia-9755 and so on. Link /usr/lib/glx/default via /etc/alternatives to /usr/lib/glx/$foo and link /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 etc. to the equivalent files under /usr/lib/glx. Then have a program call ...
[06:00] <_ion> ... update-alternatives appropriately based on connected hardware on bootup. The same program should link nvidia.ko to nvidia-$version.ko as well.
[06:05] <_ion> benc: By the way, would it be helpful if i split the l-r-m debian/rules to debian/rules.d/{nvidia,fglrx,...} and have debian/rules include them? It seems to me that it would make things much easier to change.
[06:22] <kkubasik> hey, is someone on top of the 2.6.20-14 bump for restricted-modules?
[10:10] <_ion> benc: Online? :-)
[10:44] <Ng> is there anything I can do to get useful information about why my r8169 powered NIC has stopped sending any traffic?
[10:44] <Ng> not seen this before, so I don't want to bounce it or reboot if I can get something useful
[10:45] <kylem> ethtool -S eth0
[10:49] <Ng> kylem: ta. sadly that's hanging in an ioctl :/
[10:50] <kylem> r8169 is an utter shit driver. :\
[10:54] <Ng> kylem: heh, great!
[10:55] <Ng> I'll dial up debugging for r8169 in case it happens again
[10:55] <Ng> but I am distressed that my spendy new desktop has a realtek in it, despite using intel for seemingly everything else
[10:55] <kylem> rmmod/modprobe might help it.
[10:57] <Ng> kylem: or it might make it oops
[10:57] <kylem> indeed.
[11:00] <Ng> ah well, reboot and debugging it is :)