[12:12] is there a way to check SHA1SUM's like md5sum command for md5's? [12:12] gnomefreak: Yeah there is the sha1sum command. [12:13] sweet :) [12:13] ty [12:19] np === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@unaffiliated/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:59] If one needs to update a native source package from Debian with a fix for Ubuntu, and the Debian package does not have a debian revision number, i.e -1 or whatever, should one use the same version number with -0ubuntu1 on the end? dpkg --compare-versions says that the version-0ubuntu1 is greater, but is that the best way to go version number wise? [01:02] In this case, I'm reviewing a debdiff for the sbuild package. Bug 84183 [01:02] Malone bug 84183 in sbuild "sbuild depends on grep-dctrl, which is a transition package" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84183 [01:05] it'd be 0.52 -> 0.52ubuntu1 [01:06] crimsun: I was wondering that. Thanks. I'll ask for it to be re-created, as it patch doesn't apply without manual entring of files to patch anyway. [01:06] i.e, attempt to patch, cannot find file at line blah. === jamyskis [n=dlecount@dslb-084-061-034-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:15] hi, is there an overview how the whole ubuntu provess works? [01:15] phaidros: There may be something on the wiki. [01:15] I mean I just got told in another chat, that ubuntu syncs with debian at the begin of a lifecycle. [01:16] but is there something which covers ubuntu-debian, universe, multiverse, motu, who is volounteer, who is canonical (just in general) and such? [01:16] what the process of packages from one group to the others is .. [01:16] ahm its TheMuso , hehe :) [01:17] heya [01:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment [01:18] start there, and spider outward [01:18] phaidros: You also may find this worth reading. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [01:18] thanks TheMuso [01:18] np === jml [n=jml@220-253-100-63.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] Amaranth: around? === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@unaffiliated/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] night all === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === acacs [n=acacs@20132137148.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] Heya gang === lupine_raeped [i=lupine@nick.lupine.me.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] hey bddebian [03:15] Hello fernando === lupine_raeped is now known as lupine_85 === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] hey bddebian [03:20] Hi RAOF [03:34] d'oh [03:34] missed pochu [03:37] Theres always the goold ol' email. :p === Lathiat [n=lathiat@ubuntu/member/pdpc.basic.lathiat] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === illovae [n=illovae@unaffiliated/illovae] has joined #ubuntu-motu === matt_good [n=matt@ip24-255-125-63.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] === asantoni_ is now known as asantoni === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] keescook: seen http://blog.drinsama.de/erich/en/linux/selinux/2007040302-ubuntu-gets-apparmor.html ? :) [04:46] ah I see erich commented on your blog anyway [04:46] ajmitch: kees blogged it on Planet? [04:47] oh nvm [04:47] screw me for saying before reading. [04:47] no thanks [04:47] but I still think Apparmor is better than nothing.... [04:47] ajmitch: Did you ever write a translator for Hurd? :-) [04:48] bddebian: why would I want to? [04:48] Dunno, I'm trying to write my second one and I'm lost :'-( === ajmitch shrugs [04:48] jdong: I think there's too many apparmor/lids/selinux/grsecurity stuff laying around alerady :( [04:50] apparmor's path weakness has been a serious issue..... [04:50] it's been complained about a lot before [04:50] apparmor uses paths instead of xattr [04:50] ? [04:57] yeah [04:57] symlinking to a binary will neuter apparmor. 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If I've got a couple of patches to fix a couple of bugs, one of which is a trivial patch while the second patch is much less trivial, is it a good idea to lump them together into a single debdiff? [08:40] RAOF: depends on the person which is going to sponsor your upload ;) [08:41] 15LOC vs. 2KLOC :) [08:42] Eh, they're both patches. I suppose it'd be easy enough for the sponsor to remove the larger one if they want? === RAOF is a bit curious as to the process debdiff -> archive :) [08:43] is there a compelling reason to be applying a 2KLOC patch at this point to a source package for feisty? [08:43] Probably not. [08:43] sounds like your question is resolved ;) [08:43] It allows banshee to import wavpack files that it has itself created, which would be nice. [08:44] oh, that bug. [08:44] But not critical, certainly. [08:44] Yup. Upstream decided to refactor to solve it :S [08:45] Ok, I'll give the 15 line patch a test tonight, and debdiff that one. [08:45] crimsun: has anyone thought of setting up pts for ubuntu? [08:46] joejaxx: I don't know offhand (but...LP?) [08:46] yeah that is true too === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs27009116.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:02] crimsun: Can I somehow convince you to bless bug #83539? [09:02] Malone bug 83539 in kqemu "Update to GPL'ed version 1.3.0pre11" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83539 [09:04] looks sane, approved. [09:05] Thanks. [09:05] np [09:06] Fujitsu: qemu is in universe is it not? [09:07] TheMuso: It is. [09:07] Whats the approval needed for then? [09:07] Is that an SRU? [09:08] TheMuso: It's a new upstream version. [09:08] ah right [09:08] (and it's kqemu, not qemu) [09:08] And kqemu is currently in multiverse, though soon to be universe. === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] evening [09:17] Hi ajmitch. === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] yay, another debian box setup [09:18] ajmitch: For what? [09:18] Hi Hobbsee. [09:18] for work [09:18] because debian is good [09:18] The latter was assumed. [09:18] & supports sw raid in the installer, along with various other useful things [09:19] ajmitch: yeah that too [09:19] So does Ubuntu's alternative CD. [09:19] StevenK: I thought so. === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F75E2C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:19] StevenK: however it's a little easier to get an etch netinst iso [09:20] hey jussi01 [09:20] hey Fujitsu [09:20] either that or get a dapper alternate cd [09:20] hi Hobbsee === Fujitsu finds something that doesn't resemble RT at all, and starts fixing bugs in it. === jussi01 waves [09:20] hi Hobbsee, dholbach === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-1-38.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] heya ajmitch [09:22] morning! [09:22] Hi pochu. [09:22] hey Fujitsu [09:23] hello Hobbsee dholbach ajmitch Fujitsu and * [09:23] hi imbrandon [09:23] Hi imbrandon. [09:23] So many greetings! === Fujitsu 's head explodes. === StevenK adds to it and waves to imbrandon [09:24] good morning [09:24] hey ajmitch, hey imbrandon [09:24] hi imbrandon [09:24] hello imbrandon [09:25] dholbach, hi [09:26] hey jussi01 [09:26] dholbach, I think I have to nuke that gsopcast... :( [09:26] jussi01: let me know if you have something i should look at again === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:27] because while the frontend is open source, the backend (sp-sc file you were missing) doesnt seem to be... [09:30] jussi01: oh ok - would it be an alternative to get it into multiverse or something? [09:30] dholbach, is that allowed? whats the proccedure? [09:31] you can depend on nonfree elements [09:31] ok, so how do I package a single file then? [09:32] maybe both have to be in multiverse then [09:32] I dunno [09:32] dholbach, the package you looked at just needs the sp-sc file to be in usr/bin, thats all that was missing... [09:33] right [09:34] sp-sc is a binary [09:34] best to ask if sp-sc is redistributable at all - maybe in multiverse === did447 [n=didier@mon75-2-81-57-110-167.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] ok - who would I be asking about that? === Fujitsu kicks LP for being stupid and confusing two tasks. [09:34] :D [09:35] dholbach, the people who made sopcast gave me authority to have it put into repos if I want... [09:36] jussi01: best to prod them and the ubuntu-archive people about it [09:37] dholbach, thanks [09:37] Fujitsu: if there is a sync request what is the proper method of handling it? [09:37] joejaxx: ubuntu-archive performs the syncs. [09:37] Fujitsu: oh ok [09:38] btw, can someone help me with a nasty printer driver in feisty? here is the read me... I go up to the modprobe bit, that worked, but the next instruction doesnt... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13634/ [09:39] !uvf [09:39] uvf is Upstream Version Freeze. For an exception, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#head-9523bc4076ff011324d67cddc97969ec609618d6 [09:40] jussi01: Are you sure you're root? [09:41] slomo: liferea uvfe approved, can you take a look at it please? :) bug 102114 [09:41] Malone bug 102114 in liferea "[UVFe] Liferea 1.2.10c" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102114 [09:41] yeah, jussi@jussi-laptop:~$ sudo chmod a+rw /dev/usb/lp0 [09:41] Password: [09:41] chmod: cannot access `/dev/usb/lp0': No such file or directory [09:41] Fujitsu: what is the proper way to handle upgrade requests? [09:41] joejaxx: Wait until Feisty+1, probably. === StevenK gets sick of uni work. [09:41] Fujitsu: oh === StevenK looks for a bug to fix. === Hobbsee is about to fix 10 or so [09:43] By Rejecting them? :-P [09:44] StevenK, fix my printer... !!! === Fujitsu looks for something to cleanse his mind of RT. [09:44] Wow, launchpad is changed. [09:44] Debugging it is not the most pleasant of tasks. [09:44] micahcowan: Indeedily. [09:44] And bugged up, of course. === Fujitsu complains about some of the Ubuntu bugtasks becoming immutable. [09:46] nice.... === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:46] rt? [09:46] Request Tracker [09:46] StevenK: nope. [09:46] jmg: A really nasty Perl thing we use at work. [09:47] It's enormous. [09:47] yuk [09:48] surely a consideration in reworking lp was to make it load faster. [09:48] Can somebody head over to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kexi/+bug/61850/+editstatus and try and reject it? [09:48] Malone bug 61850 in koffice "Kexi cannot access PostgreSQL databases anymore" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:48] it loads slower for me :( [09:48] jmg: You'd think so, but apparently not. [09:49] it just look =s like its been whitewashed in web2.0 [09:49] and not even === Prezu [i=patryk@dug.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] if it was ajaxified maybeit wouldnt be so slow [09:49] Fujitsu: done. [09:49] hello motus [09:49] Hobbsee: Did it work? [09:49] yes [09:49] Gr. [09:50] Hobbsee, really? I get the equivalent of a 404 when I try. [09:50] what were the deficiencies in launchd that required the creation of upstart? [09:50] "Page Not Found" === Hobbsee had to force it, though [09:50] Hobbsee: ? [09:50] dont seem to here [09:50] I got a 404 as well [09:50] oh yeah, now i am === Hobbsee didnt the first time she clicked it, though [09:50] OK. [09:50] It's doing strange things. [09:50] So my bug is sorta valid. [09:51] When I attempted to reject it, it decided that the package field wanted to automagically change to koffice, so it complained that it was already filed there. [09:51] neat. apparently motu-uvf only requires one person now [09:51] For you it seems to have just obliterated the package. [09:51] Hobbsee: oh? [09:51] crimsun: you here? [09:51] Hobbsee: Did you manually blank the package field? [09:52] Hobbsee: when did that happen? [09:52] Once one of the [WWW] team members marks the bug as Confirmed you can proceed with uploading. [09:52] Fujitsu: yes [09:52] Hobbsee: No, that's still two. [09:52] Hobbsee: Did it work if you left it alone. [09:52] ah [09:52] Fujitsu: no [09:52] Hobbsee: The last of them will mark it as Confirmed. [09:52] Hobbsee: OK, thanks. [09:52] ajmitch: could you ack https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/basket/+bug/102252 please? [09:52] Malone bug 102252 in basket "UVFe - Sync Basket 1.0.1 from experimental" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] Fujitsu: what do you think xchm should be under menu wise? [09:53] debian/patches/98_buildprep.diff |94914 ----------------------------- [09:53] joejaxx: Whatever gnochm is under, I guess. [09:53] well that's a large patch dropped [09:53] Fujitsu: ahh that is the name of it [09:53] ajmitch: indeed. [09:53] ajmitch: ... rather. [09:53] just autocrap? [09:53] i think so, yeah [09:53] k [09:53] Fujitsu: i could not remember the name of that similar app [09:54] any other info about it? [09:54] no NEWS or ChangeLog? [09:54] kchm also exists [09:54] yep, it's autohell [09:54] svn log? [09:54] Hobbsee: hi === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:54] ajmitch: points to the incorrect website link. the correct website link is attached, and that's the chagnelog [09:54] imbrandon: yeah kchmviewer [09:54] i need to look at that as well [09:55] ajmitch: it's only those fixes that were there - upstream is gearing up to do a bigger release in a while, but i requested the bugfixing be done pre-feisty-release [09:55] k [09:55] ajmitch: basket doesnt do svn, bugtrackers, etc. [09:55] ugh [09:55] well, it might do svn [09:55] doesnt really have a bugtracker [09:55] sounds like a moderately crap upstream [09:55] ajmitch: I have to agree. [09:55] Of course, it's a KDE app [09:55] looks like they do have svn [09:55] well, if it's only one or two people, then why go to all that effort? === StevenK hides. [09:55] No bugtracker? That's insane. === Hobbsee beats StevenK [09:56] Fujitsu: the ML, apparently === StevenK grins. [09:56] Hobbsee: Urgh. [09:56] Fujitsu: gnochm just has a debian menu entry [09:56] ajmitch: from what i see, its' still relatively new, too. so i'd expect them to, eventually [09:56] joejaxx: What about kchmviewer? [09:56] let me check kchmviewer [09:56] Fujitsu: yeah i am doing that now [09:56] kchmviewer's a direct sync from debian, isnt it? [09:57] doesn't look like they bother with things like svn tags, either [09:57] Hobbsee: That's irrelevant. [09:57] quite likely === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-227-252.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] svn ls http://basket.linux62.org/svn/basket/tags gives nothing [09:57] Fujitsu: oh, sorry. misread - thought you were wanting to make changes to it [09:57] that also only has a debian menu entry [09:58] that one is under Apps/Editors [09:58] gnochm is under Apps/Viewers [09:58] Hobbsee: confirmed [09:58] xchm is Applications;Viewers;Graphics [09:58] hmm [09:58] ajmitch: thanks. i need crimsun or someone to do the same nwo? [09:59] no [09:59] dholbach gave +1 === joejaxx tries to think of other similar apps [09:59] oh, excellent, thanks dholbach! [09:59] Hobbsee: np [09:59] joejaxx: I'm thinking Accessories. === cassidy [n=cassidy@239.161-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] dholbach: what do you think about ldap-account-manager? [10:00] last comment in bug 95328 [10:00] Malone bug 95328 in ldap-account-manager "[UVFe Sync Request] ldap-account-manager 1.2.0-1" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95328 [10:00] Fujitsu: yeah [10:00] it'd be ok to have, but the security bug can be fixed from testing-proposed-updates [10:00] Fujitsu: too bad there is not a "Viewers" entry like on the debian menu === joejaxx goes to create a patch for it [10:02] ajmitch: the changes are not really huge and I thought it the update had its benefits anyway - if you disagree, put in a -1 - I don't feel that strongly about it [10:02] ajmitch: but good you checked [10:02] I'm ok with it, just had to clarify on the bug === jmg read the spec page for upstart - interesting === cypher1 [i=cypher1@nat/hp/x-1e21f97ec22a720b] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs27009116.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:13] dholbach: what's special & blingy about accerciser? === ajmitch hugs codebrowse [10:13] ajmitch: it's dogtail-ng [10:14] actively worked on - etc :) [10:14] ah :) [10:14] hm, IBM [10:15] looks sane [10:15] do we need another +1 or not? [10:15] dunno [10:15] gah IBM. [10:15] They always have to bring out different stuff. === TheMuso shuts up. [10:16] Duplicate work annoys me greatly. [10:16] TheMuso: Lintian and Linda? [10:17] heh [10:17] hm [10:17] bug 101988 === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:17] Malone bug 101988 in irqbalance "irqbalance universe UVFe" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/101988 [10:17] StevenK, use your DD powa's and get me the scripts from lintian.debian.org [10:17] quite a big version jump, but I trust kylem fairly well [10:17] imbrandon: Why? [10:17] ajmitch: can you assign the bugs you confirm to the people who filed the bugs? [10:17] small package, etc [10:17] dholbach: yeah, will do === ajmitch thinks irqbalance would be ok to have, given it's been tested by someone we know [10:18] StevenK, so i can setup a ubuntu {lintian,linda}.ubuntuwire.com for the whole archive [10:18] StevenK: Sorry, but that is quite different IMO. Accessibility is such a small field, that we can't have people going off and re-inventing the damn wheel. [10:18] TheMuso: Ah. [10:18] hi viviersf [10:18] imbrandon: I'd rather you didn't use the lintian.d.o scripts. They suck. :-) [10:19] StevenK, hehe ok, wanna write some ? lol [10:19] imbrandon: I tried, and have about 3 versions somewhere. [10:19] I got caught up not having Linda choke on certain packages. [10:20] ahh [10:20] ok, UVF backlog is slowly coming down [10:20] And then I got distracted by this whole Ubuntu thing. [10:20] ;) === did447 [n=didier@mon75-2-81-57-110-167.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F7799B.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] wb dholbach :) [10:25] :) === simpg [n=simon@202.130.180.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:26] hm, a few uvf bugs that can't be approved just yet === ajmitch doesn't know about 94962 [10:28] (bug 94962, mr ubotu) [10:28] Malone bug 94962 in sysv-rc-bootsplash "[UVFe Sync Request] sysv_rc_bootsplash" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/94962 [10:30] does this look good? http://fluxbuntu.org/bug83400.patch [10:31] dholbach: yay, 6 open uvf bugs for universe now [10:31] yay :) [10:31] :) [10:32] NICE [10:35] anyone want to look at bug 83400? i uploaded a patch [10:35] Malone bug 83400 in xchm "chm applications in different submenus" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83400 [10:35] is two ack's enough for a UVFe? [10:35] tepsipakki: yes [10:35] ajmitch: ya [10:35] +y [10:35] :) [10:35] :) [10:35] :) [10:35] hi ajmitch [10:36] all the intel-lovers will get a new driver, then [10:36] ajmitch: did you already upgrade your raid/lvm system? [10:36] hey siretart [10:36] tepsipakki: i810-modesetting? [10:36] no, I haven't rebooted yet [10:36] is it horribly broken? [10:36] Hahah, I saw that bug, siretart. [10:37] Looks quite broken. [10:37] uh oh [10:37] Fujitsu: yes, although that one should be removed when -intel is uploaded [10:37] ajmitch: booting now works, but the new devmapper upload makes problems for me. wanted to ask you if you can confirm this [10:37] tepsipakki: We're getting -intel now? [10:37] siretart: I'm not brave enough to reboot right now ;) [10:37] Fujitsu: yes, but it won't replace -i810 yet [10:37] tepsipakki: into universe still? [10:37] yes [10:37] ajmitch: ^^ [10:38] ajmitch: keybuk asked for additional informations. since I have the machine only at home, there are some rather large roundtrips for that :/ === ajmitch would like the modesetting driver on the cd :) [10:38] siretart: ah :( === Fujitsu is surprised that beryl and its various window decorators and settings things only make up 2% of the universe bugs. [10:38] ajmitch: That would be great... hopefully for Feisty+1. [10:38] 1.9.94 was released two hours ago, but I'll upload .93 now [10:38] and wait for debian to release .94 [10:39] Fujitsu: definately for feisty+1 [10:39] for feisty+1 it ought to be default [10:39] tepsipakki: I'm sure they've been saying that since Dapper. [10:39] tepsipakki: is that the one which does the lovely xrandr 1.2 crack? [10:39] Fujitsu: it hasnt been there that long yet. [10:39] `no, we won't promote 915resolution, because i810-modesetting will be fine for Edgy' or similar. [10:39] siretart: yes, although that requires xorg-server-1.3 [10:40] Hobbsee: True... [10:40] do we even have an uptodate xrandr 1.2 binary? [10:40] I only see the 1.0.2 binary in feisty === Fujitsu can't wait for xrandr 1.2... It looks like it's going to make monitor/resolution switching actually bearable. [10:40] siretart: No, we don't. [10:40] siretart: are you able to work around your devmapper issues & finally get it booting? [10:41] ajmitch: yes, by downgrading to ubuntu5, as stated in the bugreport [10:41] ugh [10:41] so you need to boot with a live cd & all [10:41] ajmitch: nah [10:41] ajmitch: pressing Sysreq-i helps [10:41] siretart: no we don't, but that wouldn't work right anyway since we have xorg-server-1.2 [10:42] ajmitch: this way I have to mount my home volume by hand, but at least I have a root shell [10:42] oh that's not so bad [10:42] tepsipakki: does debian have an xorg-server-1.3 in experimental? [10:42] siretart: yes === Fujitsu backports it and tries it out. [10:43] sounds lovely :) [10:43] it works fine, but too late for feisty [10:43] we discussed about it a week ago [10:43] well, I've heared there will be another release after feisty after all ;) === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-227-252.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:44] siretart: oh really? :) [10:44] siretart: you'll dist-upgrade when feisty+1 opens, so.. :) [10:44] :) === pochu too :) [10:45] also, the new server would have required a rebuild of all the drivers === ajmitch will probably wait a few days [10:46] tepsipakki: how is this rebuild enforced? by binary package rename? [10:47] ABI changes [10:47] siretart: Probably an ABI change... [10:48] siretart: by having lots of users complaining [10:48] ajmitch has it right. [10:48] so the packages will be renamed, so that the outdated servers needing a rebuild will become uninstallable? [10:48] no, just change the Provides in control [10:49] now all the drivers provide xserver-xorg-video-1.0 [10:49] glx seemed to have missed the rebuild === afflux [i=k@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x6E18D3C4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-074-004-189.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] Can UVF requests and syncs be combined into one bug report, or must they be separate? === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:02] slomo: thanks :) [11:02] lol hey ajmitch [11:03] TheMuso: i've done together, never been yelled at [11:03] Ok. === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [i=zenrox@pool-71-115-227-252.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lotusleaf [n=gesture@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamyskis [n=dlecount@dslb-084-061-034-140.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] hello MOTU world [11:34] hi gpocentek [11:34] hi ajmitch [11:35] heya gpocentek [11:35] hi imbrandon [11:36] Hi gpocentek. [11:37] hey gpocentek [11:38] hey Hobbsee, hey Fujitsu === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] hey gpocentek === sacater [n=sacater@82-70-75-246.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:51] hello dholbach :) === sacater grins evilly [11:51] muahahaha [11:52] sorry [11:52] not me [11:52]