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| Xenocide | majoridiot, do you use mplayer or xine | 03:20 |
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| Xenocide | hm, im having a problem where when i use mplayer, i have 0 volume | 03:22 |
| majoridiot | when launched by itself, from mythvideo or both? | 03:23 |
| Xenocide | mythvideo | 03:26 |
| Xenocide | have not tried anything else | 03:26 |
| majoridiot | regular desktop install or minimal? | 03:27 |
| Xenocide | minimal | 03:27 |
| Xenocide | using openbox | 03:27 |
| majoridiot | ah | 03:27 |
| majoridiot | ok | 03:27 |
| majoridiot | what command line are you launching with in mythvideo? | 03:27 |
| Xenocide | worked fine for a bit | 03:27 |
| Xenocide | not sure | 03:27 |
| Xenocide | default | 03:27 |
| Xenocide | im not sure if something was hit or what | 03:27 |
| majoridiot | inadvertently muted? | 03:28 |
| Xenocide | possibly | 03:29 |
| billbrasky | f9 or l is mute i believe | 03:35 |
| billbrasky | hey major... i was gonna try another myth install attempt with edgy - at the point where you configure sql, and have to log out & log back in - do you do any of that with the mythtv user (created by the mythtv package) | 03:39 |
| billbrasky | or with your regular ID created during ubuntu install? | 03:39 |
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| majoridiot | the is not a mythtv "user" created, per se. | 03:40 |
| majoridiot | ALWAYS use your main user. | 03:40 |
| majoridiot | that is where people get screwed up- thinking the mythtv user needs to be used. | 03:40 |
| billbrasky | k | 03:41 |
| billbrasky | i wasn't using it | 03:41 |
| billbrasky | but i saw another walk-thru, on another page (by superm1 i believe) | 03:41 |
| majoridiot | so as soon as the synaptic package manager closes... | 03:41 |
| billbrasky | saying to login as the mythtv user | 03:41 |
| majoridiot | to the user add command | 03:41 |
| majoridiot | log out, back in and continue | 03:41 |
| billbrasky | adding your main ID to the mythtv group, i believe... | 03:41 |
| billbrasky | yea | 03:41 |
| majoridiot | in fact... | 03:42 |
| billbrasky | i need to sort out if i'm doing some part of that wrong | 03:42 |
| majoridiot | i'm at that stage atm on a feisty install... | 03:42 |
| billbrasky | ah | 03:42 |
| billbrasky | i just recreated a vm for me to sort out what i'm doing wrong | 03:42 |
| billbrasky | i'll figure it out sooner or later :) | 03:42 |
| majoridiot | (and it just worked like a charm) | 03:43 |
| majoridiot | well the first thing to know is that if you bork an instal once, you pretty much have to remove EVERY SINGLE trace of mythtv and mysql permanently | 03:44 |
| billbrasky | yea | 03:46 |
| billbrasky | i started from scratch on a vm and still ran into the database permissions issues like i did on a physical box | 03:46 |
| majoridiot | ok... | 03:46 |
| majoridiot | in a nutshell... | 03:47 |
| majoridiot | install the myth setup you desire | 03:47 |
| majoridiot | sudo usermod -a -G mythtv yourusername | 03:47 |
| majoridiot | logout | 03:47 |
| majoridiot | log back in as yourusername | 03:47 |
| majoridiot | mythtv-setup | 03:47 |
| billbrasky | yea | 03:48 |
| billbrasky | that's about where i get the rolling terminal screen with errors :-/ | 03:49 |
| billbrasky | i think the setup window does pop up | 03:49 |
| billbrasky | but i usually kill it before it does | 03:49 |
| billbrasky | cuz obviously something gets borked | 03:49 |
| majoridiot | is this from a FRESH format... after the borked attempt? | 03:49 |
| billbrasky | that was last night on a freshly installed vm | 03:50 |
| majoridiot | what mythtv packages are you installing? | 03:50 |
| billbrasky | just as the guide says | 03:50 |
| billbrasky | mythtv-frontend,-backend, database mysql-server, and all of the dependencies | 03:51 |
| billbrasky | i think i can try it again (gotta walk out the door in 2 minutes tho) | 03:51 |
| majoridiot | try the feisty install | 03:51 |
| majoridiot | working AWESOMELY | 03:52 |
| billbrasky | yea? | 03:52 |
| majoridiot | yes | 03:52 |
| majoridiot | what tuner are you using? | 03:53 |
| billbrasky | well, on the one box i'm gonna use a pvr500 | 03:53 |
| majoridiot | :) | 03:53 |
| billbrasky | on the other i'm gonna try firewire | 03:53 |
| majoridiot | give feisty a shot | 03:53 |
| majoridiot | the 500 should work right outta the box | 03:53 |
| billbrasky | shit, heading out the door... type atcha later | 03:53 |
| majoridiot | k | 03:53 |
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| majoridiot | hm. quiet night. | 06:23 |
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| billbrasky | i just did mythtv install in that vm, seemed to go ok this time | 06:27 |
| billbrasky | :shrug: | 06:27 |
| billbrasky | i'm gonna download feisty and give it a try anyways | 06:27 |
| billbrasky | i'll take your word that it's stable | 06:27 |
| billbrasky | :) | 06:27 |
| majoridiot | :) | 06:28 |
| majoridiot | sure... so you can blame the idiot. | 06:28 |
| superm1 | good evenin kids | 06:29 |
| majoridiot | 'lo superm1 | 06:29 |
| billbrasky | heya | 06:29 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, did you straighten out your issues with ubiquity making a mess of paritions? | 06:29 |
| majoridiot | i was just calling it quits for guidework for the day. | 06:29 |
| superm1 | ah | 06:29 |
| billbrasky | what are you guys using for remotes? | 06:29 |
| superm1 | me, mceusb2 and mceusb | 06:29 |
| majoridiot | no... it will NOT manually partition a single, pre-installed srive. | 06:29 |
| majoridiot | mceusb and the PVR-150 blaster pack | 06:30 |
| majoridiot | (i2c remote) | 06:30 |
| billbrasky | either of the mce remotes work better than one another? | 06:30 |
| superm1 | mceusb2 >>>>> mceusb | 06:30 |
| billbrasky | i was using the mceusb2 receiver with a harmony | 06:30 |
| superm1 | ah | 06:30 |
| billbrasky | but i gotta get a remote for this other setup i think | 06:30 |
| billbrasky | my parents don't think the ati remote wonder is too intuitive | 06:31 |
| superm1 | yea i wasnt a fan of it either | 06:31 |
| superm1 | a roomate had one | 06:31 |
| billbrasky | i like that it's rf | 06:31 |
| billbrasky | and works fairly quick/smooth | 06:31 |
| billbrasky | i was hoping someone would have a way to simply map the MCE quick access buttons to myth (my pictures etc) | 06:32 |
| majoridiot | the mceusb2 is plenty responsive enough for me | 06:32 |
| billbrasky | might have been done already, i dunno | 06:32 |
| majoridiot | the key is to put the .lircrc in your home and make the lircrc in .mythtv a symlink to it... that seemed to speed the plow more than sticking lircrc directly in ,mythtv | 06:33 |
| billbrasky | i see | 06:34 |
| majoridiot | take the button name as defined in lircd.conf or reported buy irw and link it up to what you want it to do in the mythtv section of lircrc | 06:34 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, was jetsradiem in this evenin? | 06:34 |
| majoridiot | i do not beleieve so, superm1. | 06:34 |
| majoridiot | if so, silent. | 06:34 |
| superm1 | i touched bases earlier today with him | 06:34 |
| superm1 | but still having lots of glade related issues | 06:34 |
| superm1 | with ubiquity | 06:34 |
| majoridiot | a tough nut to crack, eh> | 06:35 |
| superm1 | yes | 06:35 |
| superm1 | well if he doesn't have it figured out in the next few weeks, i've only got roughly a month of school left | 06:35 |
| superm1 | so i'll have free time evenings then | 06:35 |
| majoridiot | thaz all cool :) | 06:36 |
| majoridiot | made some nice guide improvements... | 06:36 |
| superm1 | i'll have a look in a few min | 06:37 |
| majoridiot | feisty and backported (LOL) them to edgy as well | 06:37 |
| superm1 | backported.... | 06:38 |
| superm1 | oh you mean the text | 06:38 |
| superm1 | not the packages | 06:38 |
| superm1 | lol | 06:38 |
| majoridiot | i think i may just reformat the backend tomorrow night and put in a feisty backend for permanent. | 06:38 |
| majoridiot | hehe... yeah, the text | 06:38 |
| superm1 | i moved my edgy backend to feisty | 06:38 |
| majoridiot | didn't have time to do the packages... LOL | 06:38 |
| superm1 | still have a dapper one chugging along though :) | 06:38 |
| majoridiot | :) | 06:38 |
| majoridiot | been wanting to drop the db and start from scratch for awhile... | 06:39 |
| superm1 | i think i might reformat the feisty one though. its been oopsing since i put edgy 64 in | 06:39 |
| superm1 | i might just put 32 | 06:39 |
| majoridiot | and i'm liking the feisty packages. | 06:39 |
| superm1 | and see if its more stable | 06:39 |
| majoridiot | plus, with feisty i can WOL that board, since the driver is fixed. | 06:39 |
| superm1 | ah nice | 06:39 |
| majoridiot | i quit running 64 altogether | 06:40 |
| majoridiot | about four or five months ago. too unstable for me. | 06:40 |
| superm1 | yea i hope thats all it is, this is all brand new hardware from newegg | 06:40 |
| superm1 | since sept | 06:40 |
| superm1 | so i dont want to have to deal with rma again | 06:41 |
| === majoridiot bets 32bit will run like a charm | ||
| superm1 | well i wish there was a way to easily reinstall remotely | 06:42 |
| superm1 | because i dont have a head hooked up to it | 06:42 |
| superm1 | or a keyboard to use with it | 06:42 |
| majoridiot | tat sucks | 06:42 |
| majoridiot | i picked up a little usb micro-keyboard for my backend for $16 | 06:43 |
| majoridiot | tucks away nicely. | 06:43 |
| majoridiot | still have to lug out a monitor, tho. | 06:43 |
| superm1 | well once its up and running i dont have a need for one. i'll probably wait until i move in a month, and then just move my lcd out there for a day | 06:43 |
| superm1 | to get it up and redone | 06:44 |
| majoridiot | have you had any luck making multiple mythtv sources from one zap2it account and attaching them to inividual cards? | 06:45 |
| majoridiot | e.g. 2-99 tune to pvr150 by default, 105-+ to firewire? | 06:46 |
| superm1 | no i haven't. i've just always made sources for each card | 06:46 |
| superm1 | for a short period of time, i had 3 zap2it accounts since i had so many sources | 06:46 |
| superm1 | and they overlapped zip codes | 06:46 |
| majoridiot | hehe | 06:46 |
| majoridiot | so seperate sources from seperate accounts? | 06:47 |
| superm1 | yes | 06:47 |
| === majoridiot would prefer not to abuse tribune's good graces if he doesn't have to | ||
| superm1 | haha | 06:47 |
| superm1 | i can see that | 06:47 |
| majoridiot | one would think that if they all shared the same account... | 06:48 |
| majoridiot | but each had different channels, then it should work. | 06:48 |
| majoridiot | but it gets really pissed if i try that. | 06:48 |
| majoridiot | LOL | 06:48 |
| majoridiot | do you think zap2it will ever become a pay service? | 06:49 |
| superm1 | they considered it last year | 06:50 |
| superm1 | they offered a pay verison | 06:50 |
| superm1 | with additional data and such | 06:50 |
| majoridiot | additional data? | 06:51 |
| superm1 | yes | 06:51 |
| superm1 | like more detailed data | 06:51 |
| superm1 | that went further out | 06:51 |
| superm1 | it was like 15 bucks for 6 months | 06:51 |
| superm1 | but they decided against it after their test phase | 06:52 |
| majoridiot | not enough interest? | 06:52 |
| superm1 | excatly | 06:52 |
| majoridiot | too expensive. | 06:52 |
| majoridiot | 19.95 a year would be pushing it. | 06:53 |
| superm1 | well i think thats what the price point was | 06:54 |
| superm1 | i dont remember | 06:54 |
| superm1 | it might have been cheaper | 06:54 |
| superm1 | it was all discussed on the mailing list way back when | 06:54 |
| majoridiot | they just got bought | 06:55 |
| majoridiot | s'why i'm wondering. | 06:55 |
| superm1 | oh no... | 06:55 |
| superm1 | by who? | 06:55 |
| majoridiot | actually, not that bad | 06:55 |
| majoridiot | sec | 06:55 |
| majoridiot | sam zell | 06:56 |
| majoridiot | real estate mogul, supposed to be a pretty upstanding guy. | 06:56 |
| superm1 | he bought TMS? | 06:57 |
| majoridiot | selling the cubs. LOL | 06:57 |
| superm1 | alone?? | 06:57 |
| majoridiot | $13 billion | 06:57 |
| superm1 | wow | 06:57 |
| majoridiot | http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9293474 | 06:57 |
| superm1 | amazing | 06:58 |
| majoridiot | yeah | 06:58 |
| superm1 | well from their perspective - | 06:58 |
| superm1 | its better to do it this way | 06:58 |
| superm1 | because previously all these projects scrapped their websites | 06:58 |
| superm1 | and wasted bandwidth | 06:58 |
| majoridiot | great pr too | 06:58 |
| majoridiot | if need be, sell ad space on the zap2it pages. no need to charge. | 06:59 |
| majoridiot | kinda flipped when i read that this morning. | 06:59 |
| superm1 | well we'll have to see | 07:02 |
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| superm1 | k | 07:05 |
| majoridiot | family guy and cheerios... awhat better way to wind down? | 07:06 |
| superm1 | well Heroes and cheerios | 07:07 |
| superm1 | :) | 07:07 |
| majoridiot | i haven't checked that out yet. figured i'd grab season one | 07:07 |
| superm1 | oh you should for sure | 07:08 |
| superm1 | def one of my favorite series yet | 07:08 |
| superm1 | i look forward to catching up on the tv shows that i'm missing right now due to this overload of last minute school work | 07:10 |
| majoridiot | myth building you a nice baklog? | 07:10 |
| superm1 | yes sir | 07:12 |
| superm1 | i've never had this much back logged recordings | 07:12 |
| majoridiot | lol | 07:12 |
| superm1 | its to the point where autoexpire might expire them before i watch some :) | 07:12 |
| majoridiot | do you commercial flag as you record? | 07:12 |
| superm1 | yes | 07:12 |
| superm1 | from one of the other backends on the network | 07:12 |
| superm1 | my master backend could never keep up | 07:13 |
| majoridiot | do you find it less accurate? as in more sensitive? | 07:13 |
| superm1 | no not at all | 07:13 |
| majoridiot | i recently changed mine to flag as it records and it gets a lot of false flags. running it after is dead-on. | 07:13 |
| superm1 | oh thats really odd | 07:14 |
| majoridiot | hm. | 07:14 |
| superm1 | i find it more inaccurate when that amd64 edgy box does the flagging though | 07:14 |
| superm1 | rather than my 3rd backend | 07:14 |
| superm1 | oddly enoug | 07:14 |
| majoridiot | hehe | 07:14 |
| majoridiot | myth has got the cutest lil' quirks... | 07:14 |
| majoridiot | LOL | 07:14 |
| superm1 | yes it sure does | 07:14 |
| superm1 | oh i came across something interesting today | 07:15 |
| superm1 | dont have a link, | 07:15 |
| superm1 | but 5C is being pulled from a lot of comcast markets | 07:15 |
| majoridiot | really? | 07:16 |
| majoridiot | why so? | 07:16 |
| superm1 | because they were getting enough complaints i'd guess | 07:16 |
| majoridiot | sweet | 07:16 |
| superm1 | this could really be the holy grail if other cable co's start to follow suit | 07:16 |
| majoridiot | afaik my insight has no 5C channels. | 07:17 |
| superm1 | so lucky :) | 07:17 |
| superm1 | this would make myth the universal holy grail country wide | 07:17 |
| majoridiot | indeed and agreed! :) | 07:17 |
| majoridiot | agreed again. | 07:17 |
| majoridiot | i freaked out a friend the other night... | 07:17 |
| majoridiot | ran 3 different X sessions on my main comp, with a mythfrontend in each... | 07:18 |
| majoridiot | one D | 07:18 |
| majoridiot | HD | 07:18 |
| superm1 | wow | 07:18 |
| superm1 | and it handled that? | 07:18 |
| majoridiot | and the other two sd | 07:18 |
| majoridiot | backend never got over .2 load | 07:18 |
| majoridiot | frontend just laughed. | 07:18 |
| majoridiot | he FREAKED. | 07:19 |
| superm1 | just laughed? | 07:19 |
| majoridiot | couldn't believe it was that powerful and that free. | 07:19 |
| superm1 | as in at how easy it was to do | 07:19 |
| majoridiot | swapped between processors... but never worse than 100% on one and 20-ish on another. | 07:20 |
| superm1 | thats incredible | 07:20 |
| majoridiot | plenty of legroom left. | 07:20 |
| majoridiot | the video cards help a LOT, but the core duo 2 is a nice processor. | 07:20 |
| superm1 | my desktop freaks at one HD show | 07:20 |
| superm1 | oh a core 2 duo | 07:20 |
| majoridiot | i am impressed. my first intel chip ever. | 07:20 |
| superm1 | man i need to get me one of those :) | 07:21 |
| superm1 | my comp arch prof talked about them too | 07:21 |
| superm1 | and how many strides ahead they are | 07:21 |
| majoridiot | and dual 7600GTKO SLIs running the video, so that helps. | 07:21 |
| superm1 | wow | 07:21 |
| superm1 | that is a mighty bad ass frontened | 07:21 |
| superm1 | s/frontened/frontend/ | 07:22 |
| majoridiot | i am very impressed with it. and i guess the one i got is known for great ovewrclocking. | 07:22 |
| majoridiot | LOL at fe/fe/fe | 07:22 |
| majoridiot | he was more impressed that the backend handled it so well | 07:22 |
| majoridiot | well, as am i. | 07:22 |
| majoridiot | it a great software package. | 07:23 |
| superm1 | :) | 07:23 |
| superm1 | well hopefully for feisty+1, mythbuntu will be much closer to ready | 07:23 |
| superm1 | and user friendly | 07:23 |
| superm1 | for non linux people to jump in | 07:23 |
| superm1 | so your friend can set up his own box :) | 07:23 |
| majoridiot | looking forward to that. :) | 07:23 |
| majoridiot | i could see the wheels turning in his head LOL | 07:24 |
| superm1 | okay i've just got a few more things to finish with this lab | 07:26 |
| superm1 | and then back home and bed for me | 07:26 |
| superm1 | much earlier then yesterdays freaking 4AM :) | 07:27 |
| majoridiot | i would say so | 07:27 |
| majoridiot | i'm out soon myself | 07:27 |
| superm1 | okay you have a good night. i'll take a look at the backported changes for edgy and see what i think :) | 07:27 |
| majoridiot | k. ttyl | 07:28 |
| superm1 | later | 07:28 |
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| tgm4883 | Where's the log file for the backend server? I was watching a show being recorded and my backend server crashed | 07:58 |
| superm1 | /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log | 08:16 |
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| superm1 | mornin Daviey | 02:59 |
| superm1 | long time no see | 02:59 |
| Daviey | superm1, grr! | 02:59 |
| Daviey | I had my laptop stolen | 03:00 |
| superm1 | omg | 03:00 |
| superm1 | seriously? | 03:00 |
| Daviey | yeah | 03:00 |
| superm1 | wow so sorry dude | 03:00 |
| Daviey | luckily i had only *just* backed everything of value up | 03:00 |
| superm1 | did u have anything personable on therer that you wouldnt want in someone else's hands? | 03:00 |
| Daviey | not really.... i suspect they wouldn't know how to mount a ext3 fs anyway | 03:01 |
| superm1 | haha | 03:01 |
| Daviey | On that thought tho, i will be seriously looking at encrypting it | 03:01 |
| superm1 | is insurance going to cover it or anything? | 03:01 |
| Daviey | oh yeah... | 03:01 |
| superm1 | encrypting it is a lot of work from what i've looked | 03:02 |
| Daviey | in someways i'm happy... I put a meaty scratch into the lid | 03:02 |
| superm1 | i thought about it for mine too | 03:02 |
| superm1 | a hard drive lock is probably a better bet | 03:02 |
| superm1 | (at least my thinkpad supports a hard drive locking password) | 03:02 |
| Daviey | Well i have already purchased a new one - and the insurance will cover it all.. :) | 03:03 |
| superm1 | the drive won't spin up until its entered - and it only works in computers supporting a hard drive lock) | 03:03 |
| superm1 | wow nice | 03:03 |
| superm1 | well i would have offered - i will have an IBM/lenovo discount avail to me within the next 1.5 months if this happened a little later | 03:03 |
| Daviey | technically there is an 'excess' to pay - but ebaying the MS licences will cover that ;) | 03:03 |
| superm1 | hehe | 03:04 |
| superm1 | well either that or attempting to get the cost of the license back from the manufacturer | 03:04 |
| superm1 | i've read about both dell and lenovo doing it | 03:05 |
| superm1 | Daviey, so once you get the new machine back, you going to join back with us in mythbuntu efforts? | 03:13 |
| Daviey | sorry, had a phone call - let me catch up | 03:23 |
| Daviey | yes! definitely! | 03:23 |
| Daviey | I'm really keen to get this out | 03:23 |
| superm1 | well the way things are looking, its not going to be at feisty release | 03:27 |
| superm1 | but it will have to be staggered | 03:27 |
| superm1 | due to a variety of reasons | 03:27 |
| superm1 | -jetsariem ran into lots of difficulties with ubiquity, and i can't work much with him on it | 03:27 |
| superm1 | -imbrandon hasnt gotten me my acct setup properly | 03:28 |
| superm1 | he "made" it and set up a server for us | 03:28 |
| superm1 | but my ssh key isn't working and i have been bugging him about it daily | 03:28 |
| Daviey | hehe | 03:28 |
| Daviey | What domain are we getting? | 03:29 |
| superm1 | well mythbuntu.org was just bought by someone else apparently right before imbrandon was about to get it | 03:29 |
| superm1 | so i really don't know | 03:29 |
| superm1 | i was figuring that part would be irrelevant until the website is prepared | 03:29 |
| Daviey | Have we made contact with the person who did? | 03:29 |
| superm1 | we were going to use drupal for content management | 03:29 |
| Daviey | *cough* Joomla *cough* | 03:30 |
| superm1 | no we haven't - i've considering phoning him. he is registered as living in indiana, and google turns up a mobile phone number in addition to his business number | 03:30 |
| superm1 | Joomla? | 03:30 |
| Daviey | http://www.joomla.org/ | 03:31 |
| Daviey | superm1, pm | 03:32 |
| superm1 | so Daviey what does Joomla have going for it above drupal? | 03:35 |
| Daviey | I threw together a quick joomla webpage and was quite impressed with it | 03:36 |
| Daviey | i haven't tried drupal so can't really comment | 03:36 |
| superm1 | well i have seen several drupal sites, and saying sexy is an understatement | 03:36 |
| Daviey | mind you, isn't there a drupal theme for 'ubuntu' we could adapt? | 03:36 |
| superm1 | fluxbuntu.org and ubuntu.com use it | 03:37 |
| Daviey | have a look at fluxbuntu ;) | 03:37 |
| superm1 | this might be interesting, http://forum.joomla.org/index.php?topic=4364.msg35306 | 03:37 |
| superm1 | ha, Site off line | 03:38 |
| Daviey | sounds like a +1 for drupal then | 03:39 |
| superm1 | well the thing that sticks out from that is that drupal is focused around community sites though | 03:41 |
| superm1 | eg logins and such | 03:41 |
| superm1 | which for our purposes, i don't know will be necessary | 03:41 |
| Daviey | tbh. we can experiment. It's easy to install either. We can just save the content | 03:42 |
| superm1 | sounds like a good idea | 03:42 |
| superm1 | once imbrandon gets me the shell account to this box eventually i'll get basic installs of both on and give you an acct to toy with too | 03:42 |
| Daviey | What needs doing with actual development? Have i missed much? | 03:43 |
| superm1 | not too much, a few minor bug fixes that had to get in, lots of work on the guide, and i think that the live disk script is pretty much done at this point | 03:43 |
| superm1 | i mean of course there will be other things that will still come up | 03:44 |
| superm1 | but i think ubiquity is the big thing right now that needs work | 03:44 |
| Daviey | what needs doing? | 03:45 |
| superm1 | some of the uglier things i was doing on the live disk script have been pulled upstream (like user-setup) | 03:45 |
| Daviey | with ubiquity? | 03:45 |
| superm1 | well jetsariem has been running into a variety of glade issues | 03:45 |
| superm1 | afaik | 03:45 |
| superm1 | and after he sorts out the gui, all the debconf that happens behind the scenes needs to be setup | 03:45 |
| Daviey | any idea when he'll be back? | 03:46 |
| superm1 | he is on mid afternoons and late evenings (central time) | 03:46 |
| superm1 | from what i've noticed | 03:46 |
| Daviey | good stuff | 03:46 |
| superm1 | i wish i had the time atm to help more with it too, but its the last month of school and you know how that goes | 03:46 |
| Daviey | :) | 03:47 |
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| Daviey | get the data postponed :P | 03:48 |
| Daviey | s/data/date | 03:48 |
| superm1 | haha | 03:48 |
| superm1 | well i'm going to stick to the view though, that we are better just delaying our release rather than release something that would be a hack anyhow | 03:48 |
| superm1 | no use rushing right now | 03:48 |
| Daviey | agreed | 03:50 |
| Daviey | If it doesn't 'just work' then it'll get a bashing | 03:50 |
| superm1 | exactly | 03:50 |
| Daviey | furthermore, we need to advertise the fact that it is extremely simple to update when a new myth version is released | 03:51 |
| superm1 | but in a month once school is wrapped up, i'll have much more time anyhow | 03:51 |
| superm1 | well to do that, we need our own repository that supplements the ubuntu repos | 03:51 |
| superm1 | i think | 03:51 |
| Daviey | thats what i thought initially - but weren't we going to try and squeeze everything into universe? | 03:52 |
| superm1 | yes | 03:52 |
| superm1 | but what if say 0.21 is released | 03:52 |
| superm1 | right after for example feisty | 03:52 |
| superm1 | and everyone wants to jump onto that boat | 03:53 |
| superm1 | it will be at least 2-3 weeks until the package is made, packaged for feisty, and then backported | 03:53 |
| superm1 | longer if there are any new dependencies introduced | 03:53 |
| Daviey | oic | 03:53 |
| superm1 | but thats another detail that can be sorted out later | 03:53 |
| superm1 | but if you want to help jetsadiem with ubiquity atm, i'm sure it would be greatly appreciated | 03:56 |
| superm1 | i understand that he poked cjwatson and others in ubuntu-devel for some info | 03:57 |
| superm1 | but i havent gotten a transcript of what he found out yet | 03:57 |
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| tgm4883 | Being that im not use to looking at logs, does mythtv log just errors, or lots of normal things too? | 04:57 |
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| tgm4883 | Does mythtv backend og normal activity or just problems? | 10:02 |
| tgm4883 | log | 10:02 |
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| tgm4883 | majoridiot, does mythtv backend log normal activity? | 10:09 |
| tgm4883 | or just problems | 10:09 |
| gardengnome | i suppose it's the normal log level. | 10:10 |
| majoridiot | both by default | 10:10 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 10:10 |
| gardengnome | it should tell you the log level at the beginning of the log file | 10:10 |
| tgm4883 | wanted to make sure that I wasn't having huge problems as my logs are quite large | 10:10 |
| majoridiot | you can set the log level | 10:10 |
| tgm4883 | set it to errors only? | 10:11 |
| majoridiot | to log only error events, etc. | 10:11 |
| tgm4883 | im trying to pin down my crash | 10:11 |
| majoridiot | i *think* it has a number of levels | 10:11 |
| majoridiot | xine? | 10:11 |
| tgm4883 | was watching a show that was being recorded at the same time (through manage recordings or whatever, not live tv) and my backend crashec | 10:12 |
| majoridiot | k | 10:13 |
| majoridiot | should be one of the last events in the backend log then | 10:13 |
| majoridiot | if it was recorded, that is. | 10:13 |
| tgm4883 | can i post where I think the problem is in the log file? | 10:15 |
| majoridiot | sure | 10:15 |
| tgm4883 | this is a snip from my log where I believe it is, heres the link as it also is quite large. I have many more of the mpeg2video lines before this and can post the whole log file if necessary. | 10:18 |
| tgm4883 | http://linux.weilandhomes.com/mythtverror.txt | 10:18 |
| majoridiot | ok... | 10:20 |
| majoridiot | you were recording a program... | 10:20 |
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| tgm4883_ | my desktop just froze, when it rains, it pours | 10:21 |
| majoridiot | start over LOL... | 10:21 |
| majoridiot | ok... | 10:21 |
| tgm4883_ | if you replied after I sent the link i didn't see it | 10:21 |
| majoridiot | you were recording a program... | 10:21 |
| tgm4883_ | ok | 10:21 |
| majoridiot | and then tried to watch it while it was still recording... | 10:21 |
| majoridiot | did it ever start the video or just error out? | 10:22 |
| tgm4883_ | i have my schedule setup to record programs, and while they record i usually go into media library and start watching it so i can skip commercials | 10:22 |
| majoridiot | right | 10:23 |
| majoridiot | what i'm asking... | 10:23 |
| tgm4883_ | yea i was about halfway through a show when it gave the error about not being able to connect to the backend | 10:23 |
| tgm4883_ | which is the same machine | 10:23 |
| majoridiot | ah | 10:23 |
| majoridiot | and that is the snippet of log that you posted? | 10:23 |
| tgm4883_ | yea, i can post the whole thing if necessary | 10:24 |
| majoridiot | not necessary, i don't believe | 10:25 |
| tgm4883_ | ok | 10:25 |
| majoridiot | ok | 10:25 |
| majoridiot | now... | 10:25 |
| majoridiot | did you restart the backend or just restart the frontend? | 10:25 |
| tgm4883_ | I had to restart the backend to get it working again | 10:26 |
| tgm4883_ | I actually ended up restarting the computer | 10:26 |
| majoridiot | ah. k | 10:26 |
| tgm4883_ | but i feel that a backend restart would have done the trick | 10:26 |
| majoridiot | i saw a 3-4 minute gap. | 10:26 |
| majoridiot | is there another remote frontend or is this your only machine? | 10:26 |
| tgm4883_ | as i couldn't access either from mythweb either | 10:26 |
| tgm4883_ | i have a remote frontend on my laptop that i use occasionally | 10:27 |
| majoridiot | ok | 10:27 |
| tgm4883_ | but i wasn't using it last night | 10:27 |
| majoridiot | is the backend address 192.168.0.4? | 10:27 |
| tgm4883_ | yes | 10:27 |
| majoridiot | did the program being recorded finish correctly? | 10:28 |
| tgm4883_ | the backend had also been running about 8 days, not sure if that matters | 10:28 |
| tgm4883_ | hmm, let me check | 10:28 |
| majoridiot | also... pls post the last few time-stamped log entries from right before the last log you posted. (you can pm it to me if you want) | 10:30 |
| tgm4883_ | no didn't finish recording | 10:30 |
| majoridiot | probably because of your reboot. | 10:31 |
| majoridiot | it looks like it was still recording when you stopped it. | 10:31 |
| tgm4883_ | just a sec | 10:32 |
| tgm4883_ | i think i can explain that | 10:32 |
| majoridiot | mysql died for some reason. | 10:32 |
| tgm4883_ | it crashed during the black donnellys, didn't finish recording that (last 8 minutes) | 10:32 |
| majoridiot | yup. right when mysql died. | 10:33 |
| majoridiot | is there anything in your /var/log/mysql.err? | 10:33 |
| tgm4883_ | I think i restarted it after that show, and it started recording the tonight show, but only recorded 7 minutes, stopped ( i think this is when i restarted) and started recording again (so i have 2 parts to the tonight show) | 10:34 |
| tgm4883_ | let me check | 10:34 |
| tgm4883_ | mysql.err is empty | 10:36 |
| majoridiot | what about mysql.log? | 10:37 |
| tgm4883_ | is there a good program for looking through log files? im using gedit | 10:37 |
| majoridiot | gnome log viewer | 10:37 |
| majoridiot | gnome-system-log | 10:38 |
| tgm4883_ | mysql.log is empty also, i opened up mysql.log.1 which is dated yesterday and it also is empty | 10:38 |
| majoridiot | when was your crash? | 10:38 |
| tgm4883_ | last night at about 10:58 pm | 10:38 |
| majoridiot | k | 10:39 |
| majoridiot | well... the problem is mysql died for some reason | 10:39 |
| majoridiot | or myth had a problem connecting to it for some reason out of the blue | 10:39 |
| majoridiot | i don't know much about mysql | 10:39 |
| tgm4883_ | perhaps needs updating? | 10:39 |
| majoridiot | is it available to update on your system? | 10:40 |
| tgm4883_ | yea | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | might not hurt | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | back up your database first, tho | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | just to be safe | 10:40 |
| tgm4883_ | will do | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | vg. | 10:40 |
| tgm4883_ | how large is too large for a log file (for mythtv), it looks quite large to me, but i suppose it could be average | 10:41 |
| tgm4883_ | i just like to worry | 10:41 |
| majoridiot | dunno | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | lemme look at mine | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | $ ls -l /var/log/mythtv | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | total 1020 | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 18499 2007-04-03 15:30 mythbackend.log | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 41078 2007-03-03 14:03 mythbackend.log~ | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 129387 2007-04-03 08:41 mythbackend.log.1 | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 119430 2007-04-02 08:23 mythbackend.log.2 | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 119275 2007-04-01 15:25 mythbackend.log.3 | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 104585 2007-03-31 13:21 mythbackend.log.4 | 10:42 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 105381 2007-03-30 11:02 mythbackend.log.5 | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 220661 2007-03-29 11:02 mythbackend.log.6 | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 135439 2007-03-28 09:15 mythbackend.log.7 | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | however... | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | keep in mind that my backend turns itself on and off... yours apparently runs for weeks ;) | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | so your log files are likely 10-20MB? | 10:44 |
| tgm4883_ | well each log file is for 1 day it seems | 10:44 |
| majoridiot | ah... that's nice. | 10:44 |
| majoridiot | so your logs are 3-5MB? | 10:44 |
| tgm4883_ | yea 5.2 mb for yesterday, 101000 lines | 10:45 |
| majoridiot | that's about right, i think. | 10:45 |
| tgm4883_ | thats why its a PITA to look through | 10:45 |
| majoridiot | k... | 10:46 |
| majoridiot | you can set the log level to just log "important" events | 10:47 |
| tgm4883_ | well i guess i need to let it run another week to see if it still has problems. good think i kept the tivo as a backup incase something goes harry | 10:47 |
| majoridiot | it is set to log "general" as well by default | 10:47 |
| majoridiot | that would cut down the log size for you. | 10:47 |
| tgm4883_ | ill change it to errors only | 10:47 |
| majoridiot | want help with that? | 10:48 |
| tgm4883_ | wouldn't hurt, it's probably in the doc's right? | 10:48 |
| majoridiot | yes and no | 10:48 |
| majoridiot | LOL | 10:49 |
| tgm4883_ | ah | 10:49 |
| majoridiot | you need to modify the init script | 10:49 |
| majoridiot | no biggy | 10:49 |
| tgm4883_ | i do have another question, but not sure if I should wait to see if this crashing problem is sorted out first | 10:49 |
| majoridiot | sudo nano /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend | 10:49 |
| majoridiot | look for: DAEMON=/usr/bin/mythbackend near the top after comments | 10:50 |
| tgm4883_ | there is a small line of (static i guess) at the top of my analog recordings. Probably covered by overscan on most tv's but i have no overscan | 10:50 |
| majoridiot | change it to: DAEMON=/usr/bin/mythbackend -v important | 10:50 |
| tgm4883_ | ok changed | 10:51 |
| tgm4883_ | i need to restart the backend correct? | 10:51 |
| majoridiot | correct. | 10:51 |
| majoridiot | the overscan settings in frontend setup won't fix it? | 10:52 |
| tgm4883_ | lol, didn't even look as my tv doesn't have overscan | 10:52 |
| tgm4883_ | let me try | 10:52 |
| majoridiot | the overscan is internal to the capture device ;) | 10:53 |
| tgm4883_ | uh oh | 10:53 |
| tgm4883_ | thomas@athena:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart | 10:54 |
| tgm4883_ | /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend: 12: -v: not found | 10:54 |
| tgm4883_ | Restarting MythTV server: mythbackendstart-stop-daemon: unrecognized option `--daemon' | 10:54 |
| tgm4883_ | Try `start-stop-daemon --help' for more information. | 10:54 |
| tgm4883_ | thats the right command right? | 10:54 |
| tgm4883_ | i tried just stop too, but didn't work either | 10:54 |
| majoridiot | LOL sec. | 10:54 |
| majoridiot | sorry... phone | 11:00 |
| majoridiot | ok undo that change... take the -v important off of the DAEMON | 11:00 |
| majoridiot | and add | 11:00 |
| majoridiot | damn phone, sorry. | 11:01 |
| majoridiot | -v important to the end of the ARGS= | 11:02 |
| majoridiot | a few lines down | 11:02 |
| majoridiot | (forgot i had changed my init script so much, sorry) | 11:02 |
| tgm4883_ | that works much better thanks | 11:03 |
| majoridiot | that should start it logging only "important" msgs | 11:03 |
| majoridiot | yvw | 11:03 |
| tgm4883_ | now the overscan setting, are you talking in mythtv-setup? or in the mythtv frontend settings? | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | frontend | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | setup>>tv >> playback | 11:04 |
| tgm4883_ | isn't that global for the frontend? will it change my HD viewing | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | same tuner? | 11:05 |
| tgm4883_ | different | 11:05 |
| tgm4883_ | one pvr-150, one pcHDTV 5500 | 11:05 |
| majoridiot | hm. try it and see | 11:05 |
| tgm4883_ | ok | 11:05 |
| majoridiot | i have overscan set on my 150... | 11:05 |
| majoridiot | and haven't noticed a change in my firewire picture | 11:06 |
| tgm4883_ | did you change the displacement or the percentage? | 11:06 |
| majoridiot | sec | 11:07 |
| tgm4883_ | sorry to make you keep looking these things up | 11:07 |
| majoridiot | you want percentage | 11:08 |
| majoridiot | horizontal | 11:08 |
| majoridiot | if you have nooise at the top | 11:08 |
| tgm4883_ | k | 11:08 |
| tgm4883_ | i do | 11:08 |
| majoridiot | (np helping... i'll let you know when i've had enuf) | 11:08 |
| tgm4883_ | small number like 5? | 11:08 |
| majoridiot | (i'm working on the guides, anyway) | 11:08 |
| tgm4883_ | its a very small line | 11:08 |
| tgm4883_ | iwill try it | 11:09 |
| majoridiot | try 1 or 2 to begin | 11:09 |
| majoridiot | it won't take much | 11:09 |
| tgm4883_ | do i need to restart the frontend? | 11:11 |
| majoridiot | no | 11:11 |
| majoridiot | you can bounce back and forth | 11:12 |
| tgm4883_ | hmm | 11:15 |
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| tgm4883_ | horizontal? cause it seems the noise doesn't change, but the people are getting fatter | 11:16 |
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| majoridiot | vert | 11:16 |
| majoridiot | LMAO | 11:16 |
| majoridiot | H side to side, v up and down. idiot. | 11:17 |
| tgm4883_ | ah much better, and 2 works this time. Where i still had the line at 25 on horzontal | 11:17 |
| majoridiot | yeah... you wouldn't have fixed it listening to me. | 11:18 |
| majoridiot | hehe | 11:18 |
| tgm4883_ | you going to hate me, but the longer im on here fixing these things the more questions i come up with | 11:19 |
| majoridiot | s'kinda why i'm here. to help when i can. | 11:19 |
| majoridiot | :) | 11:19 |
| tgm4883_ | ok, i *think* i only have two more, and i really do appreciate the help | 11:20 |
| tgm4883_ | whoops didn't like that | 11:20 |
| tgm4883_ | ah | 11:21 |
| tgm4883_ | much better | 11:21 |
| tgm4883_ | tried changeing it to 1 instead of 2 and had a very bouncy picture | 11:21 |
| tgm4883_ | now to my last two questions (i hope) | 11:21 |
| tgm4883_ | do you use a remote? I have the pvr-150 remote and it feels cheesy and sometime i have to press the buttons repeatly to get it to work right. Im looking for a better remote to use | 11:23 |
| majoridiot | it it usb sensor or plug into card? | 11:24 |
| tgm4883_ | plug into card | 11:24 |
| majoridiot | where is your lircrc located? | 11:24 |
| tgm4883_ | um | 11:24 |
| tgm4883_ | lol | 11:25 |
| majoridiot | k | 11:25 |
| majoridiot | do: | 11:25 |
| tgm4883_ | wherever the guide told me to put it | 11:25 |
| majoridiot | ls -a in your home directory to see if it is a hidden file there (.lircrc) | 11:25 |
| majoridiot | or | 11:25 |
| majoridiot | k | 11:26 |
| majoridiot | what is the result of ls -l .mythtv | 11:26 |
| tgm4883_ | i have a .lircrc file in my home directory and ls -l .mythtv give me | 11:27 |
| tgm4883_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-03-24 09:20 channels | 11:27 |
| tgm4883_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 thomas thomas 20 2007-03-24 14:57 lircrc -> /home/thomas/.lircrc | 11:27 |
| tgm4883_ | drwxr-xr-x 3 thomas thomas 4096 2007-03-24 15:09 themecache | 11:27 |
| tgm4883_ | but.. | 11:27 |
| tgm4883_ | my home directory is thomas, where as the computer auto logs in as user mythtv | 11:27 |
| majoridiot | k | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | and i dont have a .lircrc file in there | 11:28 |
| majoridiot | do: | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | thomas@athena:/home/mythtv$ ls -l .mythtv | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | total 36 | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2007-03-25 18:36 channels | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2007-03-24 15:09 lircrc -> /home/thomas/.lircrc | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 939 2007-03-24 09:42 mysql.txt | 11:28 |
| majoridiot | ln -s /home/mythtv/.mythtv/lircrc /home/thomas/.lircrc | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2007-03-28 22:46 MythNews | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2007-04-01 22:12 MythWeather | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 16384 2007-04-03 14:21 osdcache | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | drwxr-xr-x 3 mythtv mythtv 4096 2007-03-24 15:05 themecache | 11:28 |
| tgm4883_ | file exists | 11:29 |
| majoridiot | ah | 11:29 |
| majoridiot | k | 11:29 |
| majoridiot | you set it up correctly :) | 11:29 |
| majoridiot | dunno why it is sluggish. mine works great. | 11:30 |
| tgm4883_ | well whoever wrote the guide did an excellent job ;) | 11:30 |
| majoridiot | lirc? | 11:30 |
| majoridiot | that one is pretty much superm1's baby | 11:30 |
| majoridiot | and yes, it is very good. | 11:30 |
| tgm4883_ | its not always sluggish, just sometime i have to press a few times to get it to work | 11:30 |
| tgm4883_ | other times it works real quick | 11:31 |
| tgm4883_ | so i was thinking it was the remote | 11:31 |
| tgm4883_ | and i figured it would be nice to have a remote that was multifunction for turning the tv on and controlling other things too | 11:31 |
| majoridiot | might check to see if some of the keys need the repeat setting asjusted. | 11:31 |
| majoridiot | or maybe it's losing focus every now and then? | 11:32 |
| tgm4883_ | maybe | 11:32 |
| tgm4883_ | its a backend/frontend setup with no desktop | 11:32 |
| majoridiot | ah- no guarantee that the ir sensor will read a universal remote correctly... according to hauppauge. | 11:32 |
| majoridiot | then it shouldn't lose focus. nothing to switch to. | 11:33 |
| tgm4883_ | figured as much, is there somewhere i can get a usb ir receiver? (I assume usb would be a good one to get as opposed to say, serial) | 11:33 |
| tgm4883_ | then i could use any remote right? | 11:34 |
| tgm4883_ | with the correct lirc file that is | 11:34 |
| majoridiot | you might try to see if you can get the hauppauge to read another remote before buying another receiver | 11:35 |
| majoridiot | that is their *claim* in the docs... dunno if it is true or not. | 11:35 |
| tgm4883_ | ok | 11:35 |
| majoridiot | the instructions for reading raw codes is on the lirc page | 11:35 |
| tgm4883_ | i will check it out | 11:36 |
| majoridiot | k | 11:36 |
| tgm4883_ | see now i have thought of another question | 11:36 |
| tgm4883_ | its neverending | 11:36 |
| tgm4883_ | :( | 11:36 |
| majoridiot | k... one more and then i need to concentrate for a little bit. | 11:37 |
| tgm4883_ | ok | 11:37 |
| majoridiot | need to make a few guide changes without distraction, but then i'll be available. | 11:37 |
| majoridiot | so shoot :) | 11:37 |
| tgm4883_ | where is the adjustment for the font size for things like backend status (or for the listing of recorded tv shows) it's really small on my tv | 11:38 |
| majoridiot | setup>>tv settings>>appearance | 11:39 |
| majoridiot | no | 11:39 |
| majoridiot | sorry | 11:39 |
| majoridiot | setup >> appearace | 11:40 |
| majoridiot | k... i'll bbiab | 11:41 |
| tgm4883_ | k | 11:41 |
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