[12:12] <karel-jan> yes and if that doesn't work?
[12:12] <terran4000> maki: usplash can change the ubuntu splash image
[12:12] <terran4000> er .. the boot logo splash screen thingy
[12:13] <maki> i dont need this as sistem service
[12:13] <wolferine> then you need to backup a file, and delete, let me look it up
[12:13] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, use the reset or power button on the computer chassis (tower)
[12:13] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, what happens when you run the suggested apt-get commands?
[12:13] <chalcedny> Yorokobi he tried pusshing the power button.. it starts and then doesn't work
[12:13] <karel-jan> nothing
[12:13] <Yorokobi> !paste | karel-jan
[12:14] <ubotu> karel-jan: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:14] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to ^^^ and give us the link
[12:14] <wolferine> its not the .list
[12:14] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, at what point does it stop working?
[12:14] <wolferine> its the database file synaptic uses
[12:14] <Hrontore> how do i fix blank screen on resume or coming out of hibernation?
[12:14] <Yorokobi> probably true, wolferine
[12:15] <wolferine> but I dont know its name
[12:15] <Yorokobi> !fix adept > Yorokobi
[12:15] <wolferine> i had the same issue
[12:15] <Yorokobi> !fix adept > karel-jan
[12:16] <chalcedny> Yorokobi trying it again to write down the error msg.
[12:16] <Black_Cat> damn... how do i get proper russian encoding in konsole, mc and vimtutor? it shows nonsence, and i can't find place where to fix it; it's not settings->encoding...
[12:17] <wolferine> !fix adept > wolferine
[12:17] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, in case you didn't catch it, ubotu PM'd you a possible fix for your problem to a new tab or window
[12:17] <chalcedny> Invalid System Disk
[12:17] <chalcedny> won't see the keyboard
[12:17] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, is there a floppy disk in the floppy drive?
[12:17] <karel-jan> idd Yorokobi but it doesn't work
[12:17] <karel-jan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13756/
[12:18] <karel-jan> the problem is on the last two or 3 lines I think
[12:18] <karel-jan> but how can I remove that?
[12:18] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, just the last line.
[12:18] <karel-jan> can be
[12:18] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:18] <Yorokobi> '
[12:19] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, and you don't need deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org edgy main if you're using feisty
[12:19] <chalcedny> Yorokobi no there is no cd in the drive
[12:20] <chalcedny> it has a floppy drive in the box.. but he wouldn't be using that in forever.
[12:20] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, how about a floppy disk? (3.5" ... most computers don't ship with them now)
[12:20] <karel-jan> ok problem solved thanx
[12:20] <Yorokobi> karel-jan, np
[12:20] <karel-jan> what does kdesu stands for?
[12:21] <Yorokobi> !kdesu > karel-jan
[12:21] <chalcedny> Yorokobi no stuff in drives.
[12:21] <Hrontore> unable to resume after hibernation/ standby, help plz
[12:21] <maki> where can i add a comand that will run on startup
[12:22] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, that error means the BIOS can't find the Master Boot Record on the boot device (probably the hard drive in this case).
[12:22] <Yorokobi> !autostart > maki
[12:22] <karel-jan> ok thanx
[12:22] <karel-jan> I learned something today
[12:22] <karel-jan> thanx
[12:22] <chalcedny> Yorokobi that's bad, right?
[12:22] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, you may be able to use the LiveCD to fix grub ...
[12:22] <Yorokobi> !grub > yorokobi
[12:23] <karel-jan> does someone here have experience with running photoshop on kubuntu?
[12:23] <Yorokobi> !grub > chalcedny
[12:23] <chalcedny> Yorokobi interesting concept.. wonder if we could make a cd with this ancient lappy...?
[12:23] <eilker> !er > eilker
[12:23] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, how did Kubuntu get installed on the desktop?
[12:25] <chalcedny> Yorokobi i don't know.. my son did that
[12:26] <chalcedny> we have the ubuntu  5.0 cd here.. but if it's not booting .. how?
[12:26] <Yorokobi> ah, and he didn't leave the CD for you I bet
[12:26] <chalcedny> we have the ubuntu  5.10 cd here.. but if it's not booting .. how?
[12:26] <chalcedny> 5.10 not 5.0 <g.
[12:27] <chalcedny> Yorokobi my husband has a desktop computer.
[12:27] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, how to get it to boot from the CD is done in the BIOS/CMOS
[12:30] <chalcedny> we pressed del to enter setup, at the Ubuntu menu, says to boot as a live DVD press Enter, normalinstallatioin press Install, enter, to install only the base system, type 'server' enter.
[12:30] <chalcedny> sigh.. laptop isn't where i type best.
[12:31] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, is there a rescue option?
[12:31] <Yorokobi> I haven't seen the 5.10 installer ...
[12:31] <chalcedny> Yorokobi where do i look ? it has 'help' press 1 and advanced installation options.
[12:32] <chalcedny> i am *very* not an expert with these things.
[12:32] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, ah ... it sounds like the Debian-style installer. Type 'linux rescue'
[12:32] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, it may want 'linux rescue boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda'
[12:32] <lenscape> !xv
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:33] <chalcedny> Yorokobi it's goig to be more difficult .. it won't see the keyboard now.
[12:33] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, is it plugged in tightly? (I have a tendency to kick them out sometimes :?)
[12:36] <chalcedny> Yorokobi i jiggled all the plugs.. don't see any difference with the keyboard. The last line on the monitor is boot: _ and it does not respond to any keypresses.
[12:36] <philphoto> any tricks to playing MP3's using Amarok in Feisty?
[12:36] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, that makes things pretty difficult.
[12:37] <Yorokobi> (to state the obvious)
[12:37] <terran4000> does anyone know a way to get linux to recognize a new laptop cd-rom without having to reboot .... assuming you didn't boot with the cd-rom drive inserted?
[12:37] <chalcedny> Yorokobi would i bring you a simple problem?
[12:37] <philphoto> mount it
[12:38] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, I like simple problems. I can get a sense of accomplishments with those in far less time. :)
[12:38] <kiwi__> Im trying to play music from samba in amarok and it keeps shutting down whenever i choose to play it, what do i need to download in order to fix this?
[12:38] <chalcedny> Yorokobi i may wait until genius son wakes up, but he's been too sick to walk, lately.
[12:38] <terran4000> philphoto: ... no mounting simply doesn't work
[12:39] <terran4000> with my experience so far .. it won't even detect the drive unless I have the drive in the laptop when it boots
[12:39] <chalcedny> Yorokobi the sense of accomplishment is far greater when you help someone with nearly insurmountable problems.
[12:39] <philphoto> dang, I'm out of ideas. doesn't even recognize the drive...
[12:40] <kiwi__> anyone?
[12:40] <philphoto> kiwi__: are you trying to play mp3's?
[12:40] <kiwi__> yeah
[12:40] <terran4000> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:40] <kiwi__> from my network
[12:40] <terran4000> or something like that
[12:40] <chalcedny> kiwi__ better music? ;)
[12:40] <philphoto> !mp3
[12:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:40] <philphoto> kiwi__: are you using 7.04?
[12:41] <kiwi__> yea
[12:41] <philphoto> it's a known bug in Feisty.  I wish it would get fixed
[12:42] <chalcedny> Yorokobi thank you very much for all your help.  we really do appreciate you and everyone here.
[12:42] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, you're welcome.
[12:42] <philphoto> you can go into your repositories & enable universe / multiverse to get you acess to the codecs that will allow you to play them.
[12:42] <Yorokobi> Sorry, Chemlawn called :)
[12:43] <phreak_03> Anyone had anyluck getting Beryl to work under Feisty Fawn?
[12:43] <terran4000> phreak_03: worked for me
[12:43] <kiwi__> ok thnx for the help
[12:43] <terran4000> I broke it myself, but yes it works
[12:43] <phreak_03> lol
[12:43] <tmbg> what's a good usenet client similar to Xnews for windows?
[12:44] <terran4000> klibido
[12:44] <Yorokobi> chalcedny, I hope your son gets better soon.
[12:44] <Yorokobi> Ciao, all
[12:44] <Stormzoeker> tmbg: try pan
[12:44] <terran4000> tmbg: klibido also works decently
[12:45] <unix_infidel> anyone here done an feisty alpha to beta upgrade with dist-upgrade and noticed any problems?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> unfortunately I have an onboard ATI IXP soundcard , with a digital out that works in windows but not Kubuntu ...I can't seem to find a fix ...any ideas or suggestions ?
[12:46] <tmbg> Stormzoeker & terran4000 thanks!
[12:46] <tmbg> for some odd reason when I searched synaptic for usenet those didn't pop up
[12:46] <terran4000> unix_infidel: I did one upgrade like that a while ago, it worked out mostly .. though there were a few broken things due to changes in packages/updates/ect
[12:46] <philphoto> <--- hates ATI because of their driver issues
[12:46] <terran4000> tmbg: sudo apt-get install klibido
[12:47] <terran4000> philphoto: agreed ... but once it works it works almost normally :-)
[12:47] <tmbg> terran4000, yeah I found it what I'm saying is when I was searching for usenet tools I only found a couple and not stuff like pan/klibido.
[12:48] <tmbg> I guess I  should have searched for nntp instead of usenet
[12:48] <terran4000> ah, heh ^^ sorry, I must have misread :-)
[12:48] <BluesKaj> yeah , i guess I'm stretching the ATI's envelope by asking the for the digital output to work in edgy :)
[12:48] <philphoto> I have an ATI video card and it's the only thing holding me back from having a screaming fast computer
[12:48] <darryl> iI am trying to install the DHCP server in webmin.  I checked to /var/webmin/miniserver.error and theis is the error ---No Ipv4 or Ipsec zone--- how do I fix this?
[12:49] <terran4000> my desktop have a ATI x1900 ... works perfectly fine in linux. I dont' game though
[12:49] <vnchelper> Can someone explain to me how I can set up a VNC server on my machine (in another locaton) using SSH?
[12:49] <vnchelper> Or some other remote desktop solution?
[12:50] <tmbg> darryl, isn't webmin no longer supported?
[12:50] <darryl> I do not know
[12:51] <Powerking89670> anyone have a list of networking commands
[12:51] <Powerking89670> for example ipconfig in Windows shows Ip
[12:51] <Powerking89670> any equivilents?
[12:51] <vnchelper> ifconfig powerking
[12:51] <darryl> Is there another program that I can use
[12:51] <vnchelper> Webmin is no longer supported
[12:51] <kalorin`> I'm still here
[12:51] <kalorin`> ?
[12:51] <kalorin`> interesting
[12:51] <Powerking89670> thank you
[12:53] <darryl> If Webmin is no longer supported, then what is out there that I can use like Webmin?
[12:55] <whopper_> hi
[12:55] <unix_infidel> terran4000: thanks for your input, i'll hold off.
[12:55] <whopper_> why does it happen when i open my system and boot it, the screen resolution is at the biggest setting without my consent?
[12:55] <whopper_> (sometimes)
[12:55] <whopper_> smallest setting*
[12:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> whopper_: cos roots viodeo settings are set to that
[12:56] <vnchelper> Is there anything I can use aside from VNC to remotely access my gui?
[12:56] <whopper_> oh
[12:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> whopper_: you can change that by changing root users display size
[12:56] <whopper_> ok
[12:56] <whopper_> how?
[12:56] <terran4000> unix_infidel: :-) no prob
[12:56] <cpk1> whopper_: you should be able to change the terminal resolution in the menu.lst
[12:56] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> kcontrol somewhere
[12:56] <unix_infidel> terran4000: i'm really anxious about the next release
[12:57] <unix_infidel> honeslty because i've been using windows mostly, and i dont wanna setup dapper only to have fiesty release a week later.
[12:57] <cpk1> you mean setup edgy? =P
[12:57] <unix_infidel> i've been hearing of some serious problems with edgy.
[12:57] <whopper_> hmm
[12:57] <whopper_> i dont use edgy myself
[12:57] <terran4000> unix_infidel: feisty isn't really any special when it comes to graphic drivers. Both Feisty and Edgy have good enough drivers in their repo's to use.
[12:57] <unix_infidel> so i've basically skipped upgrading to that release, and since then i've wiped my hd.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> the latest fiesty isn't the same as the upcoming release tho, is it ?
[12:57] <cpk1> I havent had a single problem with dapper edgy or fiesty
[12:57] <tmbg> unix_infidel, edgy is mostly cool for me.
[12:58] <unix_infidel> well i'm not talking about graphics drivers, i'm not going to be using much of anything gpu intensive.
[12:58] <terran4000> edgy works very well for me :-)
[12:58] <tmbg> the nvidia driver is a little flaky w/ the color depth but stability is good
[12:58] <BluesKaj> take a bow cpk1
[12:58] <unix_infidel> tmbg: right, i dont have hours to play with "mostly cool" it has to work within a few hours or its gone.
[12:58] <unix_infidel> and by "work" i mean setup to where i like it and configured ready to go.
[12:58] <tmbg> the only issue I've had really was the color depth.
[12:58] <cpk1> unix_infidel: the only thing I had to do with edgy was use vesa until I could get the restricted video drivers installed
[12:59] <cpk1> which means I had to use vesa for all of 5 minutes
[12:59] <tmbg> everything else has all been rather straightforward.
[12:59] <tmbg> I haven't messed with the printer stuff yet, but that's a tough one, because I think my printer is actually broken. the printer itself.
[12:59] <darryl> is there an ubuntu server administration program to manage my servers?
[12:59] <unix_infidel> darryl: what do you want to administrate?
[01:00] <unix_infidel> cpk1: i'll be using default radeon drivers.
[01:00] <darryl> my ubuntu servers -- newb
[01:00] <unix_infidel> like i said, i run flux with a basic theme and basically no gpu intensive widgets.
[01:00] <unix_infidel> all in all my used disk space will be less than a 1.5gb
[01:00] <whopper_> thanks guys
[01:01] <cpk1> my root partition is bigger than that
[01:01] <cpk1> =P
[01:01] <darryl> I am having a difficult time understanding how to set up my server.  Is  there a guide?
[01:01] <unix_infidel> cpk1: well i'll be creating a partition about 5gb for root and the rest storage.
[01:02] <unix_infidel> i've never had an install go over 5gb.
[01:03] <Stormzoeker> darryl: take a look at http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_ubuntu_6.06
[01:03] <darryl> Thank You Stormzoeker
[01:04] <jarle> is there a non-gui version of the kubuntu update tool? No gui seems to be opened here...
[01:04] <sayers> I got a fresh install of ubuntu++; Thankfully it worked :)
[01:06] <jarle> When I select "Version Upgrade" form adept manager I get a lot of output to stdout, but I am not able to control the program...
[01:06] <jxs67> hello
[01:07] <sayers> Hello
[01:07] <PhinnFort> !hi | jxs67
[01:07] <ubotu> jxs67: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:07] <jxs67> hi
[01:07] <Stormzoeker> jxs67 hello ;)
[01:07] <sayers> PhinnFort: arent you Mr/s cool
[01:07] <sayers> :P
[01:07] <PhinnFort> sayers: no, i'm Martin
[01:08] <PhinnFort> whatever
[01:08] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:08] <sayers> :{
[01:08] <DarphBobo> sayers, dude wher ur mouth?? i can c the mustache
[01:08] <jxs67> ??
[01:08] <PhinnFort> :S?
[01:08] <sayers> :}O
[01:09] <sayers> hehe
[01:09] <sayers> I like this feisty a lot
[01:09] <PhinnFort> are you a feisty guy?
[01:09] <jxs67> yer
[01:09] <jxs67> lol
[01:09] <sayers> Just switched today
[01:10] <sayers> Its not Fiesty
[01:10] <PhinnFort> feisty
[01:11] <cpk1> !away | mluser-work
[01:11] <ubotu> mluser-work: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[01:11] <sayers> 1.  full of animation, energy, or courage; spirited; spunky; plucky: The champion is faced with a feisty challenger. [01:12] <sayers> PhinnFort: they are spelt differnt
[01:12] <PhinnFort> who?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[01:13] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:13] <sayers> Yes I know that...
[01:13] <sayers> FIESTY is not feisty . feisty is the new distro upgrade. Fiesty is wanting to fight
[01:14] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sayers: sounds like something you dowith no pants
[01:14] <PhinnFort> sayers: fiesty is the new distro, and wanting to fight
[01:14] <PhinnFort> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/feisty
[01:14] <PhinnFort> *feisty
[01:14] <PhinnFort> typing too fast too late;)
[01:15] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[01:15] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:15] <sayers> Check dictionary...
[01:15] <PhinnFort> sayers: i just linked to wiktionary
[01:15] <sayers> PhinnFort: I before E , except after C
[01:15] <sketchb0x> hey ive built a media server that im going to be accessing remotely via vnc, anyone got any good ideas on whats the best window manager for this?
[01:15] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> oh boy english class
[01:15] <PhinnFort> sayers: go whine to the wiktionary people, not me
[01:16] <sketchb0x> lightweight yet stable and can play my music/video?
[01:16] <PhinnFort> sketchb0x: xfce?
[01:16] <PhinnFort> xubuntu
[01:16] <PhinnFort> sketchb0x: or just TWM with MythTV
[01:17] <sayers> Use the built in terminal :)
[01:17] <PhinnFort> sayers: did you check the wiktionary link? no fiesty, though
[01:17] <linescanner> hi guys.  Just trying to install kubuntu 7.04 beta and get /bin/sh can't access tty.  Now what ???
[01:17] <sayers> did you check the DICTIONARY
[01:17] <PhinnFort> http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/feisty
[01:17] <PhinnFort> yeah
[01:17] <linescanner> 6.10 works fine
[01:17] <PhinnFort> http://dictionary.reference.com/cite.html?qh=feisty&ia=luna
[01:18] <sayers> PhinnFort: Then you win :)
[01:18] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:18] <PhinnFort> i'm not even a native inglirs speaker
[01:18] <PhinnFort> linescanner: where do you get that?
[01:18] <Ace2016> Hi all
[01:19] <PhinnFort> hi
[01:19] <PhinnFort> !hi | Ace2016
[01:19] <ubotu> Ace2016: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:19] <sketchb0x> i was under the impression mythtv was for video only, i will be playing mostly music and some video.
[01:19] <linescanner> PhinnFort after the initial splash screen
[01:19] <PhinnFort> sketchb0x: mythtv is for multimedia computers connected to tv's, mainly
[01:19] <Ace2016> hi PhinnFort
[01:19] <sinpath> hey
[01:20] <Ace2016> hi sinpath
[01:20] <PhinnFort> linescanner: dunno what your problem is, then
[01:20] <sinpath>  whats going on?
[01:20] <Ace2016> Does anyone know how to create a custom option in grub which will get me to the command line login, no xserver+kdm being started, a minimal login session
[01:20] <terran4000> sinpath: the world is turning into binary and being compiled against it's will.
[01:21] <linescanner> PhinnFort: :(
[01:21] <sinpath> oh crap  then im out of luck
[01:21] <PhinnFort> terran4000: i think you're wrong
[01:21] <PhinnFort> it's getting reverse engineered
[01:21] <PhinnFort> disassembled, you might say
[01:22] <sayers> I wonder if someone made a .sh for a computer to run a days of downloading / processes and turns off just for the fun of it
[01:22] <PhinnFort> sayers: i'm looking into making my computer turn off automatically after playing my good-night amarok playlist, does that count?
 that'd be the option that's automatically installed called (failsafe)
[01:23] <sayers> Not really
[01:23] <MadMatt> how do I upgrade to feisty?
[01:23] <PhinnFort> sayers: it turns on automatically to play my good morning playlist too
[01:23] <PhinnFort> MadMatt: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[01:23] <sinpath> wiw thats intresting
[01:23] <PhinnFort> MadMatt: be aware of broken stuff, though
[01:23] <MadMatt> thanks PhinnFort
[01:23] <PhinnFort> np
[01:23] <MadMatt> is it bad?
[01:24] <PhinnFort> MadMatt: i use it
[01:24] <PhinnFort> it's not that bad
[01:24] <Ace2016> kalorin`: that asks me to press ctrl+D for maintainance, doesn't that need root access? i want to just play games, since i use xgl with kdm
[01:25] <MadMatt> probably going to have hard time with video card drivers
[01:26] <sinpath> can any one tell me the comand line to mount a windows drive?
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !windows
[01:27] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !partitions
[01:27] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !windows-partitions
[01:27] <Stormzoeker> !ntfs
[01:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:28] <Ace2016> or you could install kdf, then run kwikdisk, if is says no permissions, then try kdesu kwikdisk, it appears in the system tray, right click on it and pick the partition from the list
[01:28] <sinpath> oh no i have to go through that again?
[01:29] <cpk1> sinpath: try mount -t ntfs /dev/wherethehdpartis /media/somefolderimade
[01:29] <cpk1> assuming it is ntfs
[01:29] <cpk1> it will be read only iirc though
[01:30] <sinpath> ok thanks
[01:33] <philphoto> my desktop settings in Feisty keep disappearing.  Is this yet another documented bug?
[01:35] <jack> hi
[01:36] <terran4000> hi
[01:36] <Stormzoeker> hi
[01:36] <PF-Away> hi
[01:36] <jack> i've got the problem that once i am idle (i dont use a screensaver but it doesnt make a difference) my xorg cpu luad goes up, fan is loud its reayll bad, even though a dual core processor
[01:37] <PF-Away> !hi | jack
[01:37] <ubotu> jack: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:37] <jack> hi man
[01:37] <eilker> may "lsb_release -a" be used for all distros ?
[01:38] <PF-Away> eilker: all self-respecting distro's, i suppose
[01:41] <eilker> PF-Away: thanx
[01:41] <luis__> hola a todos.
[01:41] <PyroMessiah> Hi everyone, I have a minor issue I need help with.  I have installed kubuntu on my computer, but it will not recognize my external usb drive.  Any ideas how to fix this?  It also won't recognize cd roms
[01:42] <luis__> hola a todos.
[01:42] <luis__> hablan espaol
[01:42] <PF-Away> eilker: yw
[01:42] <eilker> !es > luis__
[01:45] <PyroMessiah> Anyone?
[01:46] <terran4000> PyroMessiah: which version of Kubuntu did you install?
[01:47] <PyroMessiah> terran4000: Feisty
[01:47] <PyroMessiah> terran4000:  I'm a newbie.  Do I have to turn on usb capability somewhere or something?
[01:47] <terran4000> hmm, random question then ... is your computer new or old-ish?
[01:47] <PyroMessiah> terran4000:  About a year old
[01:48] <terran4000> huh ... 'should' have been fine then.
[01:49] <terran4000> as for your question, no ... such stuff is already enabled by default. Or at least should have been
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> okay, dumb mistake, I was trying to use a dvd in the cdrom, the cdrom works fine, but I can't get the usb drive to work
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> hmfff
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> ok
[01:49] <PyroMessiah> that isn't good news
[01:50] <terran4000> usb has usually been touch and go for me
[01:50] <terran4000> especially in linux
[01:50] <terran4000> it is possible that you key might just not work with linux
[01:51] <terran4000> you could try booting the the live cd again, and see'ing if the usb drive then seen then
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> hi everyone
[01:52] <terran4000> hi
[01:52] <FiRaRdA> java problem!
[01:52] <Stormzoeker> hi
[01:52] <FiRaRdA> sudo apt-get install java-common
[01:52] <chemicalvamp> #java
[01:52] <Powerking89670> how do I force close an app?
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> ctrl+alt+escape
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> then click the window
[01:53] <terran4000> you could also be sadistic and try > kill -9 <PID>
[01:53] <chemicalvamp> yup that too
[01:53] <chijin> that's not sadistic
[01:53] <PhinnFort> http://www.monzy.com/intro/killdashnine_lyrics.html
[01:54] <chemicalvamp> now how do you restart the desktop lol
[01:54] <sinpath> what kinda java do you need to play java games?
[01:54] <terran4000> chijin: people are mostly scared of the command line, or what I have experienced in the world
[01:54] <terran4000> chemicalvamp: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:54] <chijin> terran4000: but other people love it
[01:54] <terran4000> chijin: :-)
[01:54] <chijin> <3
[01:55] <PhinnFort> !java
[01:55] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[01:56] <sinpath> how do i know what virson of kubuntu i have? >.<
[01:56] <posingaspopular> !version
[01:56] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[01:57] <ubuntu> I need the command to completely wipe a CF card plugged into usb
[01:57] <ubuntu> anyone?
[01:57] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: mkfs.vfat /dev/sd[something] 
[01:58] <PhinnFort> replace [somthing]  with a1 or something
[01:58] <ubuntu> well, I don't want to make it a vfat file system
[01:58] <sinpath> hmm no LSB modules are availbale wtf?
[01:58] <ubuntu> like, I want to erase everything and leave it unpartitioned
[01:58] <Powerking89670> Guess wahat I did :p
[01:58] <ubuntu> so I can write my own custom partition table
[01:58] <Powerking89670> I accidently hit the taskbar at the bottom with cltr alt esc
[01:58] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda1
[01:59] <PhinnFort> ubuntu: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/sda
[01:59] <ubuntu_> #kubuntu+1
[01:59] <PhinnFort> i mean
[01:59] <Powerking89670> and being me I didnt know how to start it again
[01:59] <ubuntu_> #ubuntu+1
[01:59] <PhinnFort> Powerking89670: alt+f2 "kicker" enter
[02:01] <Powerking89670> Thank you PhinnFort :D
[02:01] <Powerking89670> I just tried it :D
[02:01] <PhinnFort> you are welcome:D
[02:02] <wossi> :D
[02:03] <Betzefer> any  uses slax ?
[02:03] <Betzefer> any 1 uses slax ?
[02:03] <wolferine> can I get some samba spoonfeeding pls, I have made a VERY simple smb.conf, but i cannot get it working
[02:04] <PhinnFort> Betzefer: this is a kubuntu channel
[02:04] <wossi> join ##slax, Betzefer
[02:05] <terran4000> wolferine: your trying to setup a samba server right?
[02:07] <sinpath> ok i need a mount command for the e drive anyone?
[02:08] <PhinnFort> eeeeh, what?
[02:08] <PhinnFort> e?
[02:08] <terran4000> wonder if we could make a Bash.org auto-submit script. A bot would sit in here and anytime someone says something stupid it'll automagically post it to Bash
[02:08] <PhinnFort> terran4000: you mean everytime someone says anything?
[02:08] <sinpath> i have a windows e drive i need the mount comand for it >.<
[02:09] <terran4000> PhinnFort: =^_^=
[02:09] <bronze_0_1> terran4000: so you just want to pipe the channel log into it?  :)
[02:09] <PhinnFort> sinpath: sorry, i don't do windows
[02:09] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:09] <terran4000> sinpath: this is easy .. but we'll need some information first
[02:09] <sinpath> haha ok  wish i could remeber it >.<
[02:09] <PhinnFort> sinpath: you have a hard drive you want to mount?
[02:09] <sinpath> oh like what?
[02:10] <terran4000> sinpath: do you have two or more physical hard drives?
[02:10] <sinpath> yes i have a dule boot & an e drive
[02:10] <PhinnFort> sinpath: how many physical drives?
[02:11] <sinpath> 2
[02:11] <PhinnFort> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[02:11] <PhinnFort> sudo in front, maybe
[02:11] <sinpath> the main & then the  E drive
[02:11] <txwikinger> sinpath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:11] <terran4000> that is assuming that the hard drives are IDE and not SATA
[02:11] <PhinnFort> terran4000: i also assume it's in the currently known universe, following our basic laws of physics
[02:11] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:12] <PhinnFort> i will stop now, and go to bed
[02:12] <PhinnFort> gnight
[02:12] <terran4000> heh, strange man
[02:12] <wolferine> sorry
[02:12] <wolferine> terran4000, yes
[02:12] <wolferine> i have two linux boxes, trying to share between
[02:13] <terran4000> hmm ... if it's two linux boxes and no windows boxes, samba is not recommended ... but anyway
[02:13] <wolferine> not recommended?
[02:13] <wolferine> why?
[02:14] <wolferine> what else would I use, nfs (isnt that secure I hear)
[02:14] <terran4000> samba is more of a "let us make something that windows can also try to use" type thing. it was a compatibility thing
[02:14] <terran4000> I would personally recommend just using sshfs or so
[02:14] <terran4000> then again
[02:14] <wolferine> which does what?
[02:14] <terran4000> I dont' know your setup
[02:15] <wolferine> server/workstation
[02:15] <terran4000> hmm ...
[02:15] <terran4000> if it is going to be serving stuff to more people ...
[02:15] <wolferine> keeping a HD on the server, wanting to share it with the work.
[02:15] <terran4000> ah well
[02:15] <terran4000> that changes a few things ^^
[02:15] <terran4000> samba is fine enough then
[02:16] <wolferine> im fine with the mounting
[02:16] <wolferine> just cannot get the connection between
[02:16] <wolferine> really messed up smb
[02:16] <terran4000> kk, well give me one min to access the conf file
[02:16] <wolferine> its not my .conf thats the issue though
[02:16] <terran4000> ???
[02:17] <wolferine> as I was saying, its a minimal .conf
[02:17] <terran4000> hmm ... so what doesn't work then? anyone connecting to those shares?
[02:17] <Mena> kubuntu-7.04-beta-desktop-i386.manifest What is this
[02:18] <terran4000> Mena: ... not 100% sure, but manifests are usually just a listing of what's inside
[02:18] <wolferine> workgroup = ubuntu  security = share [home]  path = home read only = yes
[02:18] <wolferine> thats about it
[02:18] <wolferine> path = /home *
[02:19] <terran4000> hmm ...
[02:19] <Mena> terran4000		, ok
[02:19] <terran4000> wolferine: not to sound mean or what not ... but are you sure the config file is properaly formatted and all?
[02:19] <sinpath> hey yorokobi
[02:20] <Mena> Thanks
[02:20] <Yorokobi> konnichi wa, sinpath
[02:20] <terran4000> np
[02:20] <terran4000> ohayoo Yorokobi
[02:20] <wolferine> yes, its formatted fine
[02:21] <sinpath> you know  that cmand line to mount the e drive again?
[02:21] <Yorokobi> ohayou gozaimasu, terran4000
[02:21] <terran4000> mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[02:21] <Yorokobi> sinpath, yeah
[02:21] <wolferine> well anyways, thanks for the help
[02:21] <sinpath> terran4000 that one dosnt work
[02:21] <terran4000> ogenki desuka Yorokobi-san?
[02:21] <Yorokobi> sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/c  (or similar)
[02:21] <sinpath> i need it again >.<
[02:22] <Yorokobi> terran4000, genki desu. Arigatou
[02:22] <Arwen> STOP TALKING IN JAPANESE...
[02:22] <Arwen> k thx
[02:22] <Yorokobi> heh
[02:22] <Jucato> !caps
[02:22] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:22] <Jucato> k thx
[02:22] <aaroncampbell> I have a RAID that is nearly 2 TB (RAID 5, 5*500G drives).  What FS should I use on it?  Ext2?  Ext3? ReiserFS?
[02:22] <sinpath> mount: mount point /mnt/c does not exist
[02:23] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, whichever one you like
[02:23] <aaroncampbell> What works well on large drives?
[02:23] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, ext2/3 have scalability issues, so maybe xfs or reiserfs?
[02:23] <fignew> aaroncampbell: I like XFS :)
[02:23] <Arwen> xfs and reiserfs have reliability issues though
[02:23] <Yorokobi> sinpath, did you end up creating /mnt/c or just /mnt/windows ?
[02:23] <fignew> Arwen: excuse me?
[02:24] <sinpath> just the mnt windows after what we did yesterday
[02:24] <Arwen> fignew, yes... xfs writes data out of sync, which means that if you crash, you can end up with old data
[02:24] <aaroncampbell> Arwen: well, it's a RAID so I can have reliability, but that won't help if the FS dies :|
[02:24] <terran4000> I also heard RFS has longevity issues .. shorter life spans for drives with it than with ext3 (for example).
[02:24] <Yorokobi> sinpath, 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/windows' maybe
[02:24] <sinpath> but i tryed putting mnt/windows
[02:24] <bud> jucato, how does one get kubuntuto encrypted?
[02:24] <fignew> Arwen: that's a feature ;)
[02:24] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, it's really a matter or choice, ext2/3 don't scale terribly well, but oh well
[02:24] <posingaspopular> Jucato, what is kubuntuto?
[02:24] <Arwen> fignew, yes, but also a possible vulnerability
[02:25] <Jucato> bud: um.. sorry... don't know... and it's "kubuntu" :)
[02:25] <fignew> well, if you want speed, XFS is the only way ;)
[02:25] <Arwen> it kind of counters the point of RAID
[02:25] <dwidmann> bud: pull up konqueror, and type "uwiki encryption" and see what you get
[02:25] <Jucato> posingaspopular: hehe. :)
[02:25] <bud> yes
[02:25] <Arwen> fignew, bah, ZFS :-)
[02:25] <aaroncampbell> Arwen: can you expound on that?  Does that mean they perform poorly on large drives?  Have a max driver size?
[02:25] <posingaspopular> bud, just reinstall it
[02:25] <Arwen> aaroncampbell, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2#File_system_limits
[02:25] <terran4000> to fix all our file system problems we should all just use GFS
[02:25] <sinpath> uootoo ..... i think i have a new problem
[02:25] <Jucato> kubuntuto... sounds like a kubuntu dog from the wizard of oz :D
[02:25] <Yorokobi> sinpath, :| I was at work when I helped you last, I don't have the logs available ... can you paste 'sudo fdisk -l' to pastebin again for me?
[02:25] <Arwen> nothing major, but at 2TB, some of those seem less theoretical
[02:26] <terran4000> wolferine: still here?
[02:26] <sinpath> sure
[02:26] <sinpath> need past bin again
[02:26] <bud> each time I go email a pop up notice saying this email is unencryped
[02:26] <sinpath> >.<
[02:26] <Yorokobi> !paste > sinpath
[02:27] <bud> is there a fix
[02:27] <Yorokobi> bud, delete the email message
[02:27] <dwidmann> bud, well, you'd need the person recieving your emails to be able to decrypt the emails upon reciept, but you can use something like gpg
[02:27] <adrian99> Im havin a prob with my xorg, my driver was working fine and then I accidently bumped my power switch and it restarted my computer into cli and wouldn't allow me to enter the graphical until I restored the backup xorg
[02:27] <dwidmann> bud:, come to think of it, you have to have their public key also
[02:28] <sinpath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13800/
[02:28] <bud> what is gpg please?
[02:28] <dwidmann> gnu privacy guard (or something), a play on pgp  (pretty good privacy).
[02:28] <terran4000> Generously Public Geeks!
[02:28] <Jucato> !gpg
[02:28] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[02:28] <Yorokobi> sinpath, hmmm ... 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/windows' should have worked.
[02:29] <bud> ok...thanks
[02:29] <sinpath> well i got a funny message when i copy pasted it from what you put then when i typed it
[02:29] <adrian99> so why would restarting my computer frag the xorg
[02:29] <Yorokobi> sinpath, funny how? (What was the message?)
[02:30] <sinpath> mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /mnt/windows busy
[02:30] <sinpath> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /mnt/windows
[02:30] <Yorokobi> sinpath, okay ... what's in /mnt/windows? 'ls /mnt/windows'
[02:30] <Powerking89670> is Alien (command to convert .RPM to .Deb supported by Kubuntu?
[02:30] <dwidmann> Powerking89670: yes
[02:30] <scotty> When I view a PHP file in my localhost with Firefox, it tries to download the PHP file.
[02:30] <Yorokobi> sinpath, a synopsis will work rather than a file listing :)
[02:31] <scotty> How do I fix that?
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: you need to install apache
[02:31] <Gtwy> hmm ... what is wlanconfig called now?
[02:31] <Gtwy> the command doesnt seem to work
[02:31] <sinpath> ok whats a synopsis?
[02:31] <Gtwy> and i cant find it in the packages
[02:31] <scotty> I have Apache2 installed, Powerking89670
[02:31] <Yorokobi> sinpath, quick summary
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: you need to configure it, as do I
[02:31] <Jucato> sinpath: synopsis = summary
[02:31] <scotty> Powerking89670: How?
[02:31] <Jucato> !alien > Powerking89670
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: I dont know lol
[02:31] <Powerking89670> scotty: thats why I havent done it yet :D
[02:32] <sinpath> ok...so how do i do that ....
[02:32] <adrian99> hey Jucato why would an accidental restart from hitting the power button on my pc frag my xorg?
[02:32] <Yorokobi> scotty. sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.* /etc/apache2/mods-enabled' then 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart'
[02:32] <Powerking89670> My Console does not recognize the Alien command
[02:33] <Arwen> Powerking89670, sudo apt-get install alien
[02:33] <Yorokobi> sinpath, is /mnt/windows your C drive or your E (?) drive contents?
[02:33] <Jucato> adrian99: it shouldn't... unless there were some X or kernel related updates that happened before restarting
[02:33] <sinpath> E
[02:33] <Jucato> Powerking89670: install alien, but take note that it's not highly recommended to use alien
[02:33] <Arwen> Powerking89670, ^^
[02:33] <Powerking89670> yes I know
[02:33] <Powerking89670> I read that in the manual
[02:33] <Arwen> not because alien can't convert RPMs, that's trivial
[02:33] <Powerking89670> how else should I get limewire :p
[02:33] <adrian99> Jucato: as far as I know there wasn't but now everytime I reactivate my driver my GUI gets toasted
[02:34] <Jucato> !limewire > Powerking89670
[02:34] <Arwen> the issue is that rpms are for RH, and RH works different
[02:34] <Jucato> !frostwire > Powerking89670
[02:34] <Arwen> Powerking89670, install frostwire
[02:34] <Powerking89670> frostwire?
[02:34] <Yorokobi> sinpath, 'sudo mkdir /mnt/c'
[02:34] <Arwen> yes, limewire, except better
[02:34] <Powerking89670> yes I know the issue
[02:34] <Jucato> Powerking89670: see the private messages the bot sent you
[02:34] <Yorokobi> sinpath, 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/c'
[02:35] <Powerking89670> Thank you Jucato
[02:36] <Powerking89670> sudo dpkg -i FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[02:36] <Powerking89670> oops
[02:36] <Powerking89670> dpkg: error processing FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb (--install):
[02:36] <Powerking89670>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[02:36] <Powerking89670> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:36] <Powerking89670>  FrostWire-4.10.9-2.i586.deb
[02:36] <adrian99> wheres the error log for the xorg?
[02:36] <Powerking89670> I got that error. Any suggestions?
[02:36] <Yorokobi> adrian99, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:36] <Arwen> Powerking89670, um, you in the same directory as the deb?
[02:36] <kripton1x> Im tryin to set up dual monitors
[02:36] <adrian99> cool thanks i'll pastebin from there to get a better idea
[02:37] <kripton1x> and after configuring in system settings, restarting, i now cant access anymore the systemseettings display manager
[02:37] <kripton1x> it says signal 11 sigsegv
[02:37] <sinpath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13803/
[02:37] <Powerking89670> Arwen:No I was under the impression that that should download it
[02:37] <Arwen> Powerking89670, uh, no, lo
[02:37] <Arwen> apt can only get packages in your repositories - download it from frostwire.com
[02:37] <Powerking89670> Doh, I see that now
[02:38] <Powerking89670> my brain skiped the first paragrpah
[02:38] <Yorokobi> sinpath, I fixed the mount command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13804/
[02:38] <Powerking89670> I feel like such an idiot
[02:38] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you were missing a space :)
[02:38] <kripton1x> can anyone help me with this?
[02:38] <sinpath> ok so what do i do ?
[02:38] <Yorokobi> sinpath, did it work? (ie, no errors)
[02:39] <jarle> Anybody else having problems getting the nvidia driver to work in feisty?
[02:39] <sinpath> you lost me
[02:39] <sinpath> >.<
[02:39] <Powerking89670> kripton, if you are having a problem just state it, someone will prolly help if they can
[02:39] <kripton1x> i did
[02:40] <kripton1x> I cant open up system settings dusplay manager cause its telling me it crashed and caused signall 11 SIGSEGV
[02:40] <Powerking89670> oh sorry I missed it. I dont know how to setup dual monitors im afraid
[02:40] <Arwen> Powerking89670, scroll up, he gets segfaults with dual monitors
[02:40] <adrian99> hey Jucato this is the xorg log http://pastebin.ca/423248
[02:40] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you were missing a space between /dev/hda1 and /mnt/c in the command you entered. The pastebin link I sent has the command with the space you needed
[02:40] <Powerking89670> yes I noticed now :p
[02:40] <sinpath> oh ok ty
[02:40] <Arwen> kripton1x, hmm, well, I can't help you - but, maybe some information on your setup would help - you have nvidia twinview? xinerama? ati huge mode? what?
[02:41] <sinpath> mount: mount point /mnt/c does not exist
[02:41] <Yorokobi> adrian99, do you have the nvidia-glx package installed? it looks like it can't find the nvidia driver
[02:41] <kripton1x> ati
[02:41] <Yorokobi> sinpath, did you create /mnt/c ? (sudo mkdir /mnt/c)
[02:41] <adrian99> I did have it installed unless it lost it somehow
[02:41] <Jucato> adrian99: this is on Dapper, Edgy, or Feisty?
[02:41] <adrian99> Edgy
[02:41] <Arwen> kripton1x, proprietary or normal drivers?
[02:42] <kripton1x> I dont know to be honest
[02:42] <Jucato> adrian99: and how did you install the nvidia driver? nvidia-glx or from Nvidia.com?
[02:42] <Arwen> ..
[02:42] <adrian99> nope apt-get
[02:42] <kripton1x> I dont configure much drivers and video stuff i just needa get my duals workin so i can program measier
[02:42] <Arwen> kripton1x, run this in a terminal "glxinfo | grep vendor" - tell me what it says
[02:42] <sinpath> mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /mnt/c busy
[02:42] <sinpath> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is mounted on /mnt/windows
[02:42] <Jucato> hm...
[02:42] <kripton1x> k
[02:42] <ubuntu_> !ati | jarle
[02:42] <sinpath> ....hun i think i found the problem
[02:42] <ubotu> jarle: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:43] <kripton1x> server glx vendor string: SGI
[02:43] <kripton1x> client glx vendor string: SGI
[02:43] <kripton1x> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[02:43] <Yorokobi> sinpath, paste the output of 'mount' (or sudo mount) for me (to pastebin again)
[02:43] <Yorokobi> ... unless you found the problem :)
[02:43] <sinpath> XD  its mounted & i can see every thing on the drive
[02:43] <jarle> ubuntu_: It all worked just fine before upgrading to feisty...
[02:43] <Yorokobi> sinpath, heh congratulations
[02:43] <Arwen> kripton1x, ok, non-proprietary drivers, one sec
[02:43] <sinpath> ty huns
[02:43] <manuel_> how can i change my languaje??
[02:43] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you're welcome
[02:44] <Arwen> kripton1x, which model of ATI exactly?
[02:44] <sinpath> one more thing hun if you dont mind?
[02:44] <adrian99> apt-get still see's the driver as being there
[02:44] <Jucato> !locale > manuel_
[02:44] <Yorokobi> scotty, did the ln -s trick work for you?
[02:44] <Yorokobi> sinpath, go ahead
[02:44] <Jucato> adrian99: X doesn't startup at all?
[02:44] <adrian99> nope
[02:44] <scotty> Yorokobi: After viewing about 5 documentations, I got it working
[02:44] <q_> hi all, can i change the icon background ?
[02:45] <kripton1x> Arwen: how can I find out
[02:45] <q_> i mean the icon background colour
[02:45] <kripton1x> ?
[02:45] <sinpath> how do i get into my c drive ?
[02:45] <manuel_> !locale > Jucato
[02:45] <scotty> thanks though
[02:45] <manuel_> ...
[02:45] <adrian99> I had to restore the xorg so I could get on IRC
[02:45] <melkor> which is better kopete or gain?
[02:45] <wolferine> terran4000, I am now
[02:45] <Jucato> manuel_: see  the private message the bot sent you
[02:45] <melkor> er gaim
[02:45] <Arwen> kripton1x, uh... try lspci in a terminal, see if you can find mention of ati in it (don't paste this to the channel)
[02:45] <Yorokobi> sinpath, you can use Konqueror ... type /mnt/windows in the location bar
[02:45] <manuel_> thanks man
[02:46] <manuel_> hey men, whats happend with the ATI??
[02:46] <manuel_> some bug??'
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> im in over my head, can i have some help with ndiswrapper?
[02:46] <Yorokobi> sinpath, if that shows you the contents of your E drive then I'll need to see what 'mount' tells you.
[02:46] <sinpath> yes thats what im using but it see's only the E drive
[02:46] <Yorokobi> !ndis > chemicalvamp
[02:46] <Jucato> adrian99: did you upgrade to a new kernel recently?
[02:46] <q_> is it even possible to change the icon background in kde ? like put a black background to see em better when i move them :)
[02:46] <Arwen> kripton1x, oh yeah, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB is a good reference on the ATI r200/300 dualhead support
[02:47] <Yorokobi> q_, you can look at Kmenu -> System Settings -> Appearance -> Colors
[02:47] <adrian99> Jucato: I installed the linux headers for this system and thats the only thing kernel wise Ive done, other then that I did a dist-upgrade after the install
[02:47] <kripton1x> Arwen: http://pastebin.ca/423254
[02:47] <Jucato> adrian99: and you didn't see a new kernel in the grub menu?
[02:48] <adrian99> there is more then 1 yes
[02:48] <terran4000> wolferine: I'm back too
[02:48] <wolferine> cool
[02:48] <terran4000> wolferine: still got the issue?
[02:48] <wolferine> fo sure
[02:48] <Arwen> kripton1x, hmm, an x600 - I'll see if it has any of its own bugs, in the meanwhile, try that link I gave you
[02:48] <Jucato> adrian99: ah so new kernel... you need to check that you also have the linux-restricted-modules for that new kernel.
[02:48] <sinpath> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13807/
[02:48] <manuel_> what happend with the FUcking ATI RADEON "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"???'
[02:48] <terran4000> wolferine: ok ... can you descirbe the problem to me ... be specific please :-)
[02:48] <q_> Yorokobi, i don't see nothing about icons..
[02:49] <Arwen> manuel_, nothing, that's a harmless bug in libmesa
[02:49] <Jucato> !language | manuel_
[02:49] <ubotu> manuel_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:49] <Arwen> manuel_, and don't swear
[02:49] <zouzou85> hi guys,
[02:49] <manuel_> what happend with the (censured) ATI RADEON "libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b"?????
[02:49] <adrian99> Jucato: how would I find out?
[02:49] <Yorokobi> sinpath, odd ... okay. 'sudo umount /mnt/windows'
[02:49] <manuel_> aaa ok
[02:49] <zouzou85> i installed the wireless card using ndiswrapper but it doesn't connect to free or public wifi networks
[02:50] <Jucato> adrian99: boot into that kernel. then when you get to the part where X doesn't load, press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to login to a console. then "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[02:50] <wolferine> sure. terran4000 so as I said, I have two computers, server and a work.
[02:50] <Yorokobi> q_, it may not be possible ... I've not tried it but that's where you change most of the colors.
[02:50] <Arwen> manuel_, hehe, ati support is pretty bad though
[02:50] <manuel_> may i install the ATI's drivers or?
[02:50] <manuel_> or not...
[02:50] <wolferine> terran4000, I have created a min. .conf for the server and the work.
[02:50] <wolferine> and I am trying to use Nautilus to surf to the server, accessing the /home
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> Yorokobi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 is usefull, but i stil need an experienced user to help me do a chroot to isntall everything
[02:51] <adrian99> Jucato: k brb
[02:51] <kripton1x> Arwen: alrighty
[02:51] <zouzou85> any ideas?
[02:51] <Yorokobi> !chroot > Yorokobi
[02:51] <sinpath> give me a sec hun copying files
[02:51] <kripton1x> I mean right now both monitors are working
[02:51] <kripton1x> theyre just duplicated
[02:51] <Arwen> manuel_, you can try fglrx if you want, but it's hardly better
[02:51] <kripton1x> i wanted to set both monitors different
[02:51] <Powerking89670> ok, FrostWire installed.....but on run it starts to load in the taskbar but crashes unexspectedly with no warning
[02:51] <Arwen> kripton1x, mergedfb will make one large virtual monitor
[02:51] <kripton1x> it was doing it, but when i restarted X, it jsut fails now to let me config X
[02:51] <kripton1x> hmm.
[02:51] <Arwen> be warned that the resolution can't be higher than 2048x2048 though
[02:51] <kripton1x> can I apt-get it?
[02:52] <Arwen> kripton1x, it's part of xorg, read the page I linked
[02:52] <kripton1x> and adjust resolution for both monitors (diff resolutions)
[02:52] <wolferine> network:///Windows Network <-- thats all I see, when I surf to the Windows Network, it changes to smb://
[02:52] <wolferine> but nothing shows
[02:52] <terran4000> wolferine: ok. so ... currently the problem is that you can't access the samba share on the other computer right?
[02:52] <wolferine> yes
[02:52] <manuel_> sorry arwen, whats fglrx?
[02:52] <wolferine> i cannot access it on the server (from the work.)
[02:52] <Arwen> manuel_, proprietary ati driver, it kind of sucks, but it's faster
[02:53] <zouzou85> i installed the wireless card using ndiswrapper but it doesn't connect to free or public wifi networks
[02:53] <zouzou85> any ideas?
[02:53] <manuel_> so if i install i will have more fps??
[02:53] <terran4000> wolferine: try smb://IP-ADDRESS-BE-Here/share-name
[02:53] <wolferine> um
[02:53] <wolferine> hold on a sec
[02:53] <manuel_> now i have about 700
[02:53] <melkor> zouzou, type ifconfig from the command line
[02:53] <wolferine> the samba restart must take sometime to get it goiing
[02:54] <Arwen> manuel_, 700???? in what?
[02:54] <zouzou85> it shows the cards installed melkor
[02:54] <terran4000> k
[02:54] <Arwen> but yes, fglrx will get you more fps at the cost of system instability
[02:54] <Arwen> also, fglrx doesn't work with aiglx/composite
[02:54] <melkor> zouzou does it say essid or give it an ip adress?
[02:55] <melkor> zouzou, does it say ath0 eth0 or something of that nature?
[02:55] <zouzou85> the essid i am connected to right now
[02:55] <zouzou85> eth1
[02:55] <terran4000> Arwen: you can use XGL instead of aiglx/compostie ...
[02:55] <terran4000> *composite
[02:55] <Arwen> terran4000, but XGL sucks too
[02:55] <Arwen> :-\
[02:55] <terran4000> yeah ... it does
[02:55] <Arwen> it's like a pile of suckage if you go that way
[02:55] <terran4000> horribly
[02:55] <terran4000> ><
[02:55] <terran4000> Ati + linux == trouble && !fun
[02:56] <manuel_> glxgears -printfps
[02:56] <manuel_> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[02:56] <manuel_> 3452 frames in 5.0 seconds = 690.239 FPS
[02:56] <manuel_> 3854 frames in 5.0 seconds = 770.753 FPS
[02:56] <melkor> zouzou,  so it is on a network right now?
[02:56] <Arwen> manuel_, don't spam, ah, glxgears?
[02:56] <Arwen> you know, glxgears != benchmark
[02:56] <kripton1x> Arwen: X just crashed man :[
[02:56] <manuel_> yes...
[02:56] <kripton1x> tryin to start Amarok
[02:56] <manuel_> not spam lol
[02:56] <zouzou85> a protected network, one that requires a wep key
[02:56] <Arwen> manuel_, hmm.......
[02:56] <Arwen> well, that's not good
[02:56] <Arwen> kripton1x, *
[02:57] <kripton1x> ?
[02:57] <kripton1x> *?
[02:57] <Arwen> manuel_, so, fglrx will probably lead to 2-3x glxgears rates, but it will be less secure
[02:57] <Arwen> I mean less stable
[02:57] <zouzou85> a protected network, one that requires a wep key melkor
[02:57] <melkor> zouzou so you just cannot connect when you try a network with out a key
[02:57] <Arwen> kripton1x, huh, no idea - you might wanna talk to someone with more knowledge of X :-(
[02:57] <jager> melkor and arwen
[02:57] <jager> lotr geeks all
[02:57] <zouzou85> exactly melkor
[02:57] <cpk1> my glx gears only gives 400fps rofl
[02:58] <kripton1x> Arwen: what was that site?
[02:58] <Arwen> jager, I can change my nick if I want, lol
[02:58] <Arwen> kripton1x, the wiki for the xorg project
[02:58] <manuel_> so, i want to play games on linux, what do you recommend me?? install or not install, thats is the question... the ati'owners drivers???
[02:58] <kripton1x> ya\
[02:58] <melkor> do you every use iwconfig?
[02:58] <kripton1x> melkor whats the prob
[02:58] <kripton1x> iwconfig is like ifconfig but for wireless interfaces
[02:58] <Arwen> kripton1x, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/MergedFB - read it carefully
[02:58] <zouzou85> i used that too,
[02:59] <kripton1x> thnx Arwen.
[02:59] <Arwen> from what I see, you have to make sure the total combined resolution of your desktops is less than 2048x2048
[02:59] <Arwen> or else you get 0 performance
[02:59] <Arwen> cpk1, lol
[02:59] <melkor> zouzou I think you can use iwconfig eth1 key open essid ...
[02:59] <zouzou85> same prob, it shows the card, but won't connect to a FREE network
[02:59] <Arwen> manuel_, what kind of fps do you get in your game right now? NOT GLXGEARS
[02:59] <melkor> zouzou, does it say the key is off when you try?
[03:00] <manuel_> i dont know
[03:00] <manuel_> because i cant play
[03:00] <manuel_> i just entered on the game
[03:00] <zouzou85> nop, it just hangs
[03:00] <manuel_> black screen and then the desktop...
[03:00] <zouzou85> at 28% when using knetworkmanager
[03:00] <zouzou85> melkor
[03:01] <melkor> zouzou, i've had the other problem where I couldn't connect to a key'd network.
[03:01] <adrian99> Jucato: it said the package wasn't found
[03:01] <zouzou85> how did you fix it melkor?
[03:01] <wolferine> terran4000, you still there?
[03:01] <Arwen> manuel_, what kind of card do you have right now? model number? because if it's not that good, you might want to invest in an nVidia card
[03:01] <melkor> zouzou, I didn't
[03:01] <jager> does iwconfig say  no wireless extensions?
[03:01] <Jucato> adrian99: what exactly did you type? "sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)"
[03:02] <zouzou85> iwconfig shows the card installed! jager
[03:02] <manuel_> i have ATI RADEON 9200SE
[03:02] <adrian99> crap think I may have messed up the command
[03:02] <melkor> zouzou, try getting iwconfig to turn the key off
[03:02] <jager> just checking :)
[03:02] <adrian99> brb again lol
[03:03] <terran4000> wolferine: yo, still here
[03:03] <jager> i haven't gotten knetworkmanager or whatever to work yet
[03:03] <zouzou85> what is the command for that melkor? "iwconfig -key=off?
[03:03] <karmax> hello, sorry for bother... im having a problem with libc6-i686
[03:04] <Arwen> manuel_, that's a really old card, I suggest just buying a recent nVidia :-)
[03:04] <karmax> im running kubuntu *last version, and when i run adept for update everything it fails with libc6-i686
[03:04] <Arwen> might I suggest a 6800 or a 7600?
[03:04] <jager> iwconfig ethx key off
[03:04] <manuel_> loool
[03:04] <manuel_> do you work in nVidia?
[03:04] <manuel_> spam...
[03:04] <Arwen> no, it's just that nvidia has a good driver
[03:04] <wolferine> hehe
[03:04] <manuel_> yes yes..
[03:04] <Arwen> ATI's drivers suck on all platforms :-)
[03:04] <manuel_> and i santa claus
[03:05] <chemicalvamp> what is the link for the feisty fawn upgrade tool how-to?
[03:05] <Arwen> manuel_, that said, I guess you should install fglrx - if you're not using compiz/beryl, there won't be a problem afaik
[03:05] <wolferine> terran4000, so if I want to have username login and access /username, do I have to add /home/username into the smb.conf?
[03:05] <jager> i never buy ati, for exactly the reason Arwen noted
[03:05] <jager> nvidia supports linux better
[03:05] <manuel_> nVidia... ok, recommend me nice model
[03:05] <jager> even better would be open drivers, but i'll take what i can get
[03:05] <Arwen> manuel_, 6800, 7600, 7950, 8800 :-)
[03:05] <melkor> zouzou did you get that? iwconifg eth1 key off , you should run it as root though
[03:05] <Arwen> in order from least to most expensive
[03:05] <underdog5004> manuel_, beryl runs comfortably on a geforce fx5500
[03:05] <melkor> I think
[03:05] <jager> i run beryl on a geforce 2 mx 400 64mb card
[03:05] <jager> oooold
[03:06] <underdog5004> manuel_, I've got 128Mb of ram on it too
[03:06] <manuel_> not to expensive...
[03:06] <Arwen> well, you can run beryl on an Intel IGP, so that doesn't mean much
[03:06] <underdog5004> jager, lol, me too!
[03:06] <Arwen> manuel_, 6800 - that's under $100 and still has 256MB RAM
[03:06] <nicoc> iversion
[03:06] <terran4000> wolferine: well, it's all a matter of how you want to setup permissions
[03:06] <nicoc> !version
[03:06] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[03:06] <jager> man i thought i was the only one who would be such a masochist underdog5004 :)
[03:06] <karmax> please... nobody know anything about a problem (BROKEN) with libc6-i686 in kubuntu 7.04-beta ?
[03:06] <terran4000> wolferine: if you want seperate access to different users to different /home folders, then you would have to setup each one seperately
[03:07] <underdog5004> jager, it performs pretty well, I just had to manually install the driver...
[03:07] <prak> does anyone know how to solve the problem of where I can't get further than the login screen after entering the login properly?
[03:07] <jager> sorry karmax i didn't get very far with feisty before i realized i should wait for release
[03:07] <terran4000> wolferine: and please excuse my horrible spelling. Even after 22 years on this rock I still can't spell for <insert bad word>
[03:07] <jager> are you, by any chance, out of disk space prak?
[03:07] <underdog5004> jager, I've got a triangle-desktop switcher, transparency, wobbly windows, fire, etc...
[03:07] <wolferine> your doing fine
[03:07] <karmax> jager, im new with *ubuntu, but i installed this version becouse the canges on the installer
[03:07] <jager> fire, eh?  i haven't got that one yet, i'll look into it
[03:07] <prak> no, jager
[03:08] <prak> doesn't look like it jager
[03:08] <wolferine> fire is the best
[03:08] <adrian99> Jucato:  nope still says it can't find the package
[03:08] <manuel_> but i have beryl
[03:08] <underdog5004> yeah, although I like transparent wobbliness as well
[03:08] <manuel_> running okey
[03:08] <jager> can you login under any acct or are they all broken?
[03:08] <jager> might add an accnt ortwo to see
[03:08] <karmax> maybe i must wait a few days before doing the update with adept :S ?
[03:08] <manuel_> but i cant play some games that i can play on windows :S
[03:08] <wolferine> terran4000, so do I have to add the path, or not?
[03:08] <prak> how do i add more account, jager?
[03:08] <Arwen> manuel_, really? um, then maybe the reason that you can't play your games is that you're running beryl..
[03:08] <jager> can you login from the console?
[03:08] <Jucato> adrian99: hm.. ok... just install the "linux-restricted-modules-generic" package...
[03:09] <jager> or is that broken too?
[03:09] <Arwen> if you try to use beryl and gl at the same time, weird things happen
[03:09] <melkor> Do they make wireless cards that don't support encryption?
[03:09] <adrian99> k
[03:09] <vit_>  Soulrider are you there?
[03:09] <jager> if you can get a shell just run adduser prak
[03:09] <manuel_> not befor install beryl i coudlnt..
[03:09] <terran4000> wolferine: for example ... for /home/photos ... I have: [Photos]  path = /home/photos read list = terran4000, family, bob write list = terran4000, family, bob guest ok = Yes
[03:09] <vit_> hi to everybody
[03:09] <manuel_> and whats fglrx?
[03:10] <wolferine> so you do have the path listed
[03:10] <adrian99> Jucaot: k that ones installing
[03:10] <terran4000> manuel_: fglrx is ATI's proprietery (or however that's spelled) driver. none open source driver
[03:10] <Arwen> !fglrx | manuel_
[03:10] <ubotu> manuel_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:10] <terran4000> wolferine: yes
[03:10] <prak> jager, i'll try that now
[03:10] <terran4000> wolferine: because I don't want to give people 'general' access to other directories and what not
[03:11] <terran4000> wolferine: for this particular server, and very up-tight about who gets access and how
[03:11] <adrian99> Jucato: so once thats done should I just reactivate the nvdia driver and restart x?
[03:11] <wolferine> can u please stop using my nick in posts :)
[03:11] <terran4000> wolferine: sure :-) ^_^
[03:11] <wolferine> hehe
[03:11] <jager> afk supper
[03:11] <Jucato> adrian99: yep
[03:11] <wolferine> i just have a script installed with xchat
[03:12] <wolferine> and its driving me nutz :/
[03:12] <adrian99> Jucato: cool thanks, brb then
[03:12] <terran4000> haha, sorry ^^
[03:12] <wolferine> np
[03:12] <manuel_> thank you Arwen
[03:12] <manuel_> nice to meet you:D
[03:12] <wolferine> so, ill try this again
[03:12] <Arwen> manuel_, :-\
[03:12] <manuel_> buy me a nVidia Plz
[03:12] <moby_python> When I type iwconfig eth0 key 1234123412341234 it says operation not permitted.  Is taht because of the card, or the driver?
[03:12] <terran4000> don't forget to have a [global]  section though .. .don't know you you have one or not.
[03:13] <wolferine> yeah, I do
[03:13] <terran4000> cool
[03:13] <wolferine> writable and read only
[03:13] <wolferine> if I do writeable = yes, then I dont need read only...
[03:13] <prak> jager, i've tried removing kdm and then installing kdm again
[03:14] <prak> i only get to use the shell only
[03:14] <prak> how do i get it back to default form?
[03:14] <prak> or close to it?
[03:14] <terran4000> well, you might want to if you want someone to be able to only read
[03:14] <wolferine> its just one user
[03:14] <wolferine> accessing the /home on the server
[03:14] <wolferine> no one else
[03:15] <adrian99> Jucato: Thanks it worked perfectly : )
[03:15] <vito>  anybody works with clipse??
[03:15] <Jucato> adrian99: good :)
[03:15] <wolferine> eclipse?
[03:15] <vito> yes
[03:15] <vito> it's like NETBEANS
[03:16] <wolferine> vito, yes, I have worked with it
[03:16] <wolferine> is that all you wanted to know?
[03:16] <jhutchins> !sudo | moby_python
[03:16] <ubotu> moby_python: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:16] <jhutchins> !kdesu | moby_python
[03:16] <ubotu> moby_python: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:17] <prak> !kdm
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <vito> 
[03:17] <karmax> well it seems im having a more odd problem, why/how its possible that when i do "~# mv file1 newfile1" it fails with: "-su: /bin/mv: cannot execute binary file"
[03:17] <moby_python> it has nothing to do with sudo
[03:17] <jhutchins> moby_python: You will need sudo to run iwconfig.
[03:17] <moby_python> I do
[03:17] <adrian99> Jucato:  umm one more thing, I got xmms installed and all the other stuff required for playing mp3's but they still won't play
[03:18] <vito> $ wolferine my PC turn slowly when I runned it
[03:18] <jhutchins> karmax: Please have a look at the page just listed above for how to use sudo to execute commands.
[03:18] <vito>  wolferine my PC turn slowly when I runned it
[03:18] <wolferine> vito, no need to repear
[03:18] <karmax> im running a konsole root terminal
[03:18] <wolferine> repeat*
[03:18] <vito>  that is normally?
[03:18] <wolferine> vito, how much RAM do you have?
[03:19] <Jucato> adrian99: hm.... what exactly did you install?
[03:19] <vito>  wolferine I don't know... how can i know that?
[03:19] <adrian99> I installed xmms and also all the extra stuff it said to for edgy on the restricted formats help page
[03:19] <wolferine> vito pls dont use my nick when replying :)
[03:19] <jhutchins> Ok, kubuntu installer is not smart enough to detect the options passed so it could boot and clone them to the installed grub - that's pretty dumb.
[03:19] <wolferine> vito, you can find out..
[03:20] <wolferine> one sec
[03:20] <Jucato> adrian99: libxine-extracodecs installed?
[03:20] <adrian99> yeps
[03:20] <wolferine> trype free
[03:20] <wolferine> type*
[03:20] <wolferine> in a shel
[03:20] <jhutchins> moby_python: There is a reason to use sudo instead of a root terminal window.
[03:21] <vito>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:21] <vito> Mem:        190400     187992       2408          0       5004      56252
[03:21] <vito> -/+ buffers/cache:     126736      63664
[03:21] <vito> Swap:      1028152     150036     878116
[03:21] <wolferine> wow
[03:21] <vito> what does mean it?
[03:21] <wolferine> that might get you banned
[03:21] <karmax> jhutchins: i open a root terminal (konsole) and run mv, i thought that... well, i forgot to use sudo
[03:22] <Goontz> asdf!
[03:22] <moby_python> I have an atheros card and a prism card.  the atheros card says encryption off and I can turn it on with iwconfig
[03:22] <adrian99> Jucato: yea I got that package installed but oddly enough they still wont play :S
[03:23] <Jucato> weird.. :/
[03:23] <moby_python> the prism card doesn't say anything about encryption and I can't turn it on with iwconfig
[03:23] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: might want to change your sound server
[03:23] <adrian99> its using alsa at the moment...how would I change that?
[03:23] <Jucato> oooh hi Admiral_Chicago!
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there Jucato
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> where?
[03:24] <Jucato> some other channel lol
[03:24] <Jucato> (not your name though)
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: amarok?
[03:24] <jhutchins> moby_python: Sounds like it is a driver issue then.
[03:24] <Admiral_Chicago> ??? -motu?
[03:24] <adrian99> none of my players will play mp3
[03:25] <Yorokobi> that's a recurring theme here ^^^
[03:25] <moby_python> jhutchins, so you think the card should support encryption...it cost 7 bucks I figured it might not.
[03:25] <vito> wolferine: teachme what does mean that?
[03:25] <Admiral_Chicago> that is odd, how did you install libxine-extracodecs
[03:25] <wolferine> vito please dont use my nick in posts, thanks
[03:25] <prak> does anyone know how to solve the problem of where I can't get further than the login screen after entering the login properly?
[03:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: nah some private channel. just ranting about how I think I'm the only geek in the immediate and extended family and in the neighborhood. so alone... :(
[03:26] <Jucato> (anyway, offtopic now :P)
[03:26] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago: same as I install everything else, with apt-get
[03:26] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: and you have multiverse installed?
[03:26] <sinpath> will "/dev/hda1     /mnt/windows    ntfs    user,defaults   0   0" allow you to access /mnt/windows as a regular user
[03:27] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago: I changed that in my sources file yeps
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: well i'm a real geek but my friends are much worse than I am.... my family pretends to understand
[03:27] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: care to paste them to the channel
[03:27] <adrian99> k jsec
[03:28] <eilker> anyone installed oracle on kubuntu ?
[03:28] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago:  here it is http://pastebin.ca/423291
[03:29] <Powerking89670> night everyone, Have a good night LD
[03:30] <Admiral_Chicago> adrian99: hmm, what does apt-cache policy libxine-extracodecs tell yu
[03:30] <jarn> Can someone tell me what files they have in ther /etc/fonts directory?
[03:30] <wolferine> vito, has it always "not worked well" ?
[03:31] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago:  here's the output I get http://pastebin.ca/423296
[03:31] <Admiral_Chicago> does anything like flash work on your computer
[03:32] <Admiral_Chicago> what about ogg?
[03:32] <adrian99> ogg works fine
[03:32] <glundberg> so...anyone else install the x11 update?
[03:32] <glundberg> it just broke my kde
[03:33] <jarn> What files do you all have in /etc/fonts/ ?
[03:33] <adrian99> mp3 is the only audio format not working
[03:33] <Admiral_Chicago> you try to remove / reinstall ?
[03:33] <kristjans> can anyone tell why kubuntu's log in screen might not appear after the loading screen and a black screen comes up instead? the system is a laptop with amd turion x2 processors and nvidia gfx card
[03:34] <adrian99> nope haven't tried that yet
[03:34] <vito>  always....
[03:34] <jarle> jarn: conf.avail  conf.d  fonts.conf  fonts.dtd
[03:34] <karmax> i installed ubuntu just to forget about having dependency problems and such... i only want to work, i cant believe that i cant rely on adept packet manager
[03:35] <adrian99> Admiral_Chicago:  just tried at it didn't work :S
[03:35] <jarle> kristjans: maybe your display diver is not working?
[03:35] <glundberg> karmax, x11 update ?
[03:35] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, that is really strange....
[03:35] <kristjans> what can i do about that?
[03:35] <adrian99> Im kinda of a magnet for weirdness
[03:35] <wolferine> vito, you are really lacking alot of memory
[03:35] <jarn> jarle: Okay, thanks. Out of curiosity, did you add conf.avail?
[03:36] <karmax> glundberg: no.. i only do a update everything after a fresh kubuntu 7.04 install and i have a broken package libc6-i686
[03:36] <jarle> jarle: never made any changes to that dir :)
[03:36] <wolferine> vito,  I recommend using the shell, like nano, as an editor for java, not using an IDE, as it will be slow on your system
[03:36] <jarle> jarle=jarn :)
[03:36] <jaevel> is this a ubuntu support channel??
[03:36] <wolferine> jaevel, kbuntu
[03:36] <Jucato> jaevel: this is for Kubuntu
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> I need some help, please have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13810/ if you are free
[03:36] <jaevel> yeah, thats what i meant, sorry...
[03:37] <jarn> jarle: Hrm, I don't have conf.avail. I've added things, but never taken away things.
[03:37] <jaevel> can any1 help me with a nic car problem?
[03:37] <jaevel> nic card?
[03:37] <karmax> glundberg: i dont want to do any fancy or custom stuff, just a normal update...
[03:37] <kristjans> safe mode gets stuck at "checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs"
[03:37] <jarn> jarle: The reason I wanted to know was because I had deleted some stuff to remove some custom things I had did and I wanted to make sure that I hadn't deleted anything that was originally there. ;)
[03:38] <karmax> glundberg: can i say to adept "forget about libc6-i686" and continue?
[03:41] <kamui> I seem to have broken my inetd in my distupgrade
[03:43] <adrian99> what could cause this mp3 issue anyway?
[03:44] <wolferine> how do I get vncviewer?
[03:44] <wolferine> during the vncserver install?
[03:44] <adrian99> just out of curiosity where do the packages that you install get stored
[03:44] <chemicalvamp> has anybody had a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13810/ yet?
[03:44] <Jucato> kamui: dragon of earth messing up your dist-upgrade? :D
[03:46] <wolferine> chemicalvamp, what is it regarding?
[03:46] <chemicalvamp> my wireless card works on edgy.. but not on feisty
[03:47] <chemicalvamp> makes it impossible to get the fix i need,
[03:47] <kamui> hi jucato :)
[03:48] <jaevel> can i reinstall a driver for my nic card from the cd-rom?
[03:49] <kamui> how do I fix apt, when its broken
[03:51] <Jucato> !adeptfix | kamui
[03:51] <ubotu> kamui: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:57] <chemicalvamp> wolferine did you see wat i said?
[04:01] <Kevlar_Soul> where is the program file for Firefox?
[04:01] <Kevlar_Soul> usr?
[04:01] <Kevlar_Soul> usr/bin ?
[04:02] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[04:02] <jaevel> i wish i could help...
[04:02] <wolferine> chemicalvamp, not something I can help with
[04:02] <wolferine> how can I use RCD in *buntu ?
[04:03] <jaevel> anyone good with setting up network cards?
[04:04] <McFrosty> Tryin to install Kubuntu on my PC (same CD I used for my laptop) but I get stuck with BusyBox v1.1.3 .... /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off (initramfs)...I have read that this doesn't mean much but not sure what options I have to get more info out about the error
[04:04] <Kevlar_Soul> Where is the executable for Firefox program?
[04:05] <fignew> /usr/bin/firefox
[04:05] <wolferine> Kevlar_Soul, which firefox
[04:05] <fignew> yes, like wolferine said, the command to find out is "which"
[04:06] <chemicalvamp> wolferine ok, thanks anyways
[04:06] <wolferine> REmote connection desktop
[04:06] <wolferine> for buntu?
[04:07] <Kevlar_Soul> wolferine? which? 2.0.0.3?
[04:07] <tulio__> !mp3
[04:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> that bot posts too many links.
[04:08] <Kevlar_Soul> Giving a URL is not a solution.
[04:08] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i say we wiene him off the link. hes getting kidney stones from it
[04:08] <Kevlar_Soul> Where is the executable for Firefox program?
[04:09] <jaevel> any1 know where i can get some info on getting my network card working?
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Kevlar_Soul: i'd type locate firefox in a konsole window
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> try to locate it there cos i forget
[04:09] <Kevlar_Soul> t3hwiz0rd-ibook:  okay
[04:09] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Kevlar_Soul: i think its in like /usr/local/share or somewhere in /usr/
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> maybe /usr/local? not sure
[04:10] <josh_> yellow?
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> blue?
[04:10] <josh_> blue?
[04:10] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> green?
[04:10] <eilker>  /tmp/app/1/image   /tmp/app/1 cramfs,iso9660 user,noauto,ro,loop,exec 0 0  // why do i have this in fstab ? what is this for ?
[04:10] <Kevlar_Soul> okay
[04:11] <Kevlar_Soul> Thanks
[04:11] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13813/ please have a look at it, if you have experience doing a chroot or using Ndiswrapper
[04:11] <Alonea> how do I get my webcam to show up in kopete?
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> !dvd > hitmanWilly
[04:12] <sayers> How can I tell which fan does which job. I dont know which is the CPU fan. Do I need to get in and look
[04:12] <sayers> ?
[04:13] <Alonea> i think I installed the drivers right, but I don't see any devices on kopete?
[04:13] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> was there a reason why i was kicked?
[04:15] <chemicalvamp> [02:12]  <-- t3hwiz0rd-ibook has left this channel.
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it just left?
[04:15] <chemicalvamp> thats what it says
[04:15] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> well thats the oddest thing irssi has ever done
[04:15] <tulio__> how do i know if my ubuntu is supporting my dual processor?
[04:20] <underdog5004> tulio__, uname
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13813/ please have a look at it, if you have experience doing a chroot or using Ndiswrapper
[04:20] <underdog5004> tulio__, hold on, lemme get the right flag
[04:21] <scotty> Alright, I'm stuck. Whenever I try to sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start in Konsole, it always fails.
[04:21] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: is it installed?
[04:21] <underdog5004> tulio__, do uname -v. If you see smp in there, it's using them
[04:21] <underdog5004> there may be another option too
[04:22] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: I think so. How do I check?
[04:23] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: usually you can just do a mysql -- version
[04:23] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> or so on
[04:24] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: When I do that, I get the following error:
[04:24] <scotty> mysql -- version
[04:24] <scotty> err, whoops
[04:24] <scotty> wrong paste
[04:24] <Alonea> ok, the instructions I am looking at tells me to do modprobe ov51x, but there isn't a ov51x module and I am trying to find the right name without success. is there a way to get a list of modules you can add?
[04:24] <SubOne> is there any way to hide the blinking cursor on non-editable text?
[04:24] <scotty> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[04:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its probably not installed then??
[04:24] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i'd just make sure its installed thru apt-get and try again
[04:25] <scotty> So sudo apt-get install mysql?
[04:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: cos your output should be similar to: mysql  Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.13, for suse-linux (i686) using readline 5.0
[04:25] <genii> perhaps mysqld is not running
[04:25] <intelikey> i have an issue !   -bash: no job control in this shell
[04:25] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~] 
[04:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: well when eh tries to launch it it doesn't launch so i am thinking its not installed
[04:26] <intelikey> how can i enable job control ?
[04:26] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: it sounds like hes trying to run it without ever installing it
[04:26] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: optionally it may be that his install wasn't correct? cos the error is odd.
[04:27] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Yes, exactly. Also mysql must be run as user mysql. Any other owner will make it fail too
[04:27] <jarn> Is it possible to convert MP3s to WMAs? My MP3 player is full so
[04:27] <tulio__> underdog5004: tks man
[04:27] <jarn> I'd like to convert it to WMA to be smaller.
[04:27] <underdog5004> tulio__, np
[04:27] <Alonea> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/build M=/home/alonea/ov51x-jpeg-1.0.0 modules_install
[04:27] <Alonea> could that line give me a clue?
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> jarn: why would you transcode?
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> second
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> why would you transcode into a proprietary format?
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> why not just make more compressed mp3's?
[04:28] <intelikey> jarn can you use .ogg ?
[04:28] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Here's my Konsole text. As you can see, there's an error. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13816/
[04:28] <jarn> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Because wma can be smaller than mp3 with equal quality.
[04:28] <jarn> intelikey: No. Only MP3 or WMA.
[04:28] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> you're transcoding though
[04:28] <SubOne> i get a flashing cursor next to text whenever the "text box" is the currently active item. For example, if the body of a page in firefox is active (allowing for scrolling with the mousewheel) I get a blinking cursor the size of the element the cursor is next to. This is quite annoying at times and is not just in firefox. I was wondering if there is a way to turn it off if the text is not editable.
[04:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> if you transcode your quality will go down regardless of your format choice
[04:29] <vito>  como veo las particiones de mi disco! para ver cuantas particiones tiene!?
[04:29] <jarn> Yes, but it will go down less.
[04:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> as mp3 isn't lossless, it'll be more lossy after being transcoded.
[04:29] <genii> transcoding almost always loses some quality
[04:29] <tulio__> underdog5004: do you know what SMP means?
[04:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: looks like dependency issues
[04:30] <underdog5004> Symmetrical Multi Processing, I think
[04:30] <scotty> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: what do I need to do?
[04:30] <underdog5004> or simultaneous
[04:30] <intelikey> i have an issue !   -bash: no job control in this shell
[04:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: if you look at the first part of this paste you made
[04:30] <moby_python> are WMA files smaller for the same quality?  I almost don't believe that.
[04:30] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: apt is telling you there are a lot of packages that are preventing the proper versions from installing
[04:31] <scotty> Ah
[04:31] <scotty> So I should use sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[04:31] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:"
[04:31] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: that should do the trick
[04:31] <jarn> moby_python: I read that they did.
[04:31] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> because alllllll of those packages are stopping you from properly being able to install the full versions
[04:31] <scotty> Ah, okay, thanks.
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: eer hold on
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: can you look at that paste?
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its saying xserver-xorg is no longer required... that doesn't seem right to me.
[04:32] <Alonea> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Run_a_Sony_EyeToy_Camera  thats the page I am looking at
[04:32] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: Can you post it? Not on my scroll , i got here later
[04:32] <scotty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13816/
[04:32] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: it looks like it wants his entire distro to self-destruct lol
[04:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it wants to remove EVERYTHING related to his gui and some kernel stuff
[04:33] <chemicalvamp> oh my gosh, i cant get my driver, is it the site? ftp://152.104.238.194/cn/wlan/rtl8185l/x64-8185(1060)(0407).zip can somebody try it and see if its just me?
[04:33] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: scotty 's paste is the one?
[04:33] <scotty> Glad I stopped it, t3hwiz0rd-ibook
[04:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> yes
[04:33] <genii> OK, looking
[04:33] <scotty> It removed two things, but they were both programs. digikam and one other
[04:33] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> scotty: i didn't notice what it was asking to remove until i saw xorg slip by my eye
[04:34] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> the reason its saying it failed was dependency issues
[04:34] <draik> Does anyone here use Ekiga?
[04:35] <Kevlar_Soul> CAN I delete all of THIS: http://i5.tinypic.com/29z4z15.png            ?
[04:35] <draik> Also, I'm trying to install openGoGear, but a dependency was replaced. I installed the replacement and openGoGear won't install. Any clues?
[04:35] <genii> OK, looked at it. Lemme think about some approaches now :) I need some coffee to think with and i'll be bck to tackle it
[04:35] <intelikey> scotty it's a broken package and/or package management system.    i can tell you a work around to get it installed.
[04:35] <scotty> Thanks, genii
[04:36] <scotty> intelikey: will it hurt anything?
[04:36] <Kevlar_Soul> ?
[04:36] <specialbuddy> I tried to upgrade to Feisty and now I get a command line when I try to start up kubuntu
[04:36] <genii> intelikey: I found on feisty for instnce I tried to remove gdm and it takes down the whole xserver with it for some reason. All the deps are screwy as hell
[04:36] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> specialbuddy: sweet, make it a server now :-P jk
[04:37] <specialbuddy> pretty much
[04:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> specialbuddy: command line is still good long as its a fully booted os you can always fix it
[04:37] <specialbuddy> not sure how I can fix it though
[04:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> specialbuddy: did you make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed?
[04:37] <genii> They should have sub-deps and super-deps. Sub deps run under the app super deps would be prerequisites to the package but not uninstalled with it
[04:37] <specialbuddy> I had edgy installed and working
[04:38] <specialbuddy> is there anyway I can get that back?
[04:38] <intelikey> scotty as root#      mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d . ;ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;mv invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin/
[04:38] <genii> scotty intelikey can likely help quite a bit here :) He's rescued some pretty badly broken boxes
[04:38] <Kevlar_Soul> What is "Orbit Laptop"?
[04:38] <Kevlar_Soul> !Orbit
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about orbit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <scotty> intelikey: Will it harm anything?
[04:39] <intelikey> yes
[04:39] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> genii: hes on a lopsided boat in bad water lol
[04:39] <draik> Where can I find out resolutions for packages that have been updated or replaced?
[04:39] <scotty> intelikey: What will it hurt?
[04:39] <Tonren> Is there a way to rename in Konqueror WITHOUT altering the extension
[04:39] <specialbuddy> I don't think apt even works on my computer anymore
[04:39] <Tonren> ?
[04:40] <specialbuddy> everytime I try to upgrade kubuntu something goes wrong
[04:40] <draik> Tonren, you can change any file name and leave the extension.
[04:40] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> the results are in, google declairs the winner! 2,700,000 for windows sucks. , 1,720,000 for linux sucks
[04:40] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> windows wins! lol
[04:40] <genii> scotty At any rate you should do an:  sudo apt-get check    to look for messed up dependecies
[04:40] <Tonren> draik: Yeah, but when you hit F2, it highlights the extension, so you have to re-type it
[04:40] <intelikey> scotty i said it's a work around to get things installed.   it's not a cure.      it will temporarly disably starting/stoping of init scripts via the  /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d script.
[04:41] <intelikey> genii it's going to have some right now.
[04:41] <intelikey> he's got a partly installed package
[04:41] <draik> Tonren: Right. So just add it back. Or, just use "krename" and select to keep the extension. Saved me a bunch of time when I had to change the name of over 1000 pictures.
[04:41] <Tonren> "krename", got it
[04:41] <specialbuddy> intelikey, is there anyway to get my system back after a screwed up upgrade to fiesty?
[04:41] <genii> intelikeywith --fix-missing   or --fix-broken   may help
[04:41] <scotty> intelikey: What would a cure be?
[04:41] <draik> Tonren: It's in the repos.
[04:42] <draik> !krename
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krename - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <intelikey> genii it wont'
[04:42] <genii> inteliky So need to set-state on the questionable package with dpkg then
[04:42] <intelikey> specialbuddy depends on what all it did and how much time and effort (and your skill level) you put into it.
[04:43] <intelikey> genii why not just finish installing it.
[04:43] <specialbuddy> well I think apt is messed up because it didn't recognize apt-get
[04:43] <genii> intelikey What is the main one you think ? hard to tell from the paste
[04:43] <scotty> intelikey: How do I finish installing it?
[04:43] <intelikey> scotty as root#      mv /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d . ;ln -s /bin/true /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;dpkg --configure -a ;rm /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d ;mv invoke-rc.d /usr/sbin/
[04:44] <SADBFL> OH SNAP ITS ME
[04:45] <genii> intelikey: You figure his rc.d system is messed?
[04:45] <intelikey> genii it's not hard to tell.  line 23 - 27  tell the whole story
[04:45] <genii> lemme look again :)
[04:45] <specialbuddy> should I take a live cd and try to fix the problems?
[04:45] <intelikey> genii no i figure that the  28  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:45] <SABDFL> HELLO KIDS
[04:45] <intelikey> the postinstall script is in need of a rewrite.
[04:46] <genii> intelikey Well, from that it looks like rc.d is working fine but that it fails to start the server due to dependency issues with it
[04:46] <scotty> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13819/
[04:46] <scotty> I get errors
[04:46] <intelikey> genii yes and the dependancies wont be installe untill that package is installed so it's a recursive loop of errors.
[04:47] <intelikey> scotty you didn't do it as root.
[04:47] <genii> intelikey: But then wouldn't it make more sense then to purge the package and then reinstall
[04:47] <intelikey> sudo -i
[04:48] <intelikey> genii you can't install  and trying to "reinstall" what can't be installed is futile
[04:48] <genii> scotty something occurs to me. Do you actually have a working apache2 on your box already?
[04:48] <scotty> Yes
[04:48] <scotty> With PHP
[04:49] <genii> scotty Just checking :) I've seen ppl try to install libapache2-some-thing when no webserver yet :)
[04:49] <intelikey> scotty did it finish without errors now ?
[04:49] <scotty> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13820/
[04:50] <voorhees86> how i configure the wireless card intel ipw 2200??
[04:51] <intelikey> scotty   find / -name invoke-rc.d 2>/dev/null
[04:52] <intelikey> you need to put it back in  /usr/sbin   now.
[04:52] <osiris> i know this might not be the place, but is it possible to make apache redirect a 404 to a different url ?
[04:52] <scotty> intelikey: /home/scotty/invoke-rc.d
[04:53] <intelikey> scotty sudo mv /home/scotty/invoke-rc.d  /usr/sbin
[04:53] <ffffu> hi i have a script that rsync one computer's files to another in crontab .. when it run the script, wouldn't rsync prompt for password ? why does existing one still work
[04:53] <intelikey> and you are all done.    note the mysql server is not loaded you should be able to do an sudo /etc/init.d/mysq* start
[04:54] <intelikey> you can do a sudo apt-get -f install    just to make sure all is well in the package world.
[04:55] <scotty> intelikey, it still fails to start
[04:55] <intelikey> sudo apt-get -f install
[04:55] <intelikey>  just to make sure
[04:56] <voorhees86> how i configure the wireless card intel ipw 2200??
[04:56] <intelikey> !wifi | voorhees86
[04:56] <ubotu> voorhees86: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:56] <jhutchins> osiris: Yes, that's configurable, in fact it's in the comments of the httpd.conf file.
[04:56] <draik> Jucato: Here there. How goes it?
[04:57] <osiris> jhutchins, thank you
[04:57] <scotty> intelikey: It still fails.
[04:57] <Jucato> draik: doing ok. studying C++ and packaging :)
[04:57] <jhutchins> osiris: Helpful docs at apache.org as well.
[04:57] <draik> Jucato: Nice.
[04:57] <osiris> just dont have the time for that part
[04:57] <osiris> but thx anyway.
[04:57] <intelikey> scotty ok.  and the package status is "all is well" ?
[04:57] <Jucato> thanks draik
[04:57] <Jucato> :)
[04:57] <jhutchins> osiris: In that case, just turn your site over to the hackers now and don't worry about it.
[04:58] <scotty> intelikey:
[04:58] <osiris> if they want it that bad, eh screw it
[04:58] <scotty> root@scotty-laptop:~# sudo apt-get -f install
[04:58] <scotty> Reading package lists... Done
[04:58] <scotty> Building dependency tree
[04:58] <scotty> Reading state information... Done
[04:58] <scotty> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[04:58] <jhutchins> osiris: Might as well run iis.
[04:58] <osiris> i keep it updated.  im not the greatest, but it works
[04:59] <jhutchins> Open source software isn't free as in free beer.  It requires involvement, learning, attention.
[04:59] <jhutchins> That's why it's so powerful.
[04:59] <jhutchins> I don't want to have to learn anything == run windows.
[04:59] <jhutchins> Let others do the thinking for you.
[04:59] <osiris> well, that is kinda miss-nomer
[05:00] <osiris> if you run windows, you gotta read more to remove the viri
[05:00] <jhutchins> Or just let them run, after all, someone must know what they're doing.
[05:00] <intelikey> scotty ok your packages are all streight,   as to mysql  i have no dias there.   genii knows sql  maybe ask him.
[05:00] <poningru> guys can we move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:00] <jhutchins> I'm sure that nice Mr. Gates wouldn't release anything that wasn't secure.
[05:00] <poningru> this is a support channel
[05:00] <jhutchins> Sorry.
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[05:01] <poningru> no need to stop
[05:01] <genii> intelikey:  :)
[05:01] <poningru> just move it to that channel
[05:01] <scotty> genii: Any ideas?
[05:01] <osiris> wow, that got militant quick
[05:02] <genii> scotty Did you now try to run mysql and getting errors again after the packages got sorted out?
[05:02] <scotty> Genii: You mean trying to install it again?
[05:02] <genii> scotty Yes
[05:03] <scotty> genii: It says they're all at their latest version
[05:03] <genii> scotty and the mysql daemon is currently running?
[05:03] <intelikey>     and just a side note to genii the reinstall should work now as long as he doesn't remove all it's deps first,   that would put it right back in the same black hole
[05:03] <scotty> genii: How do I check (sorry, very green :P )
[05:04] <genii> scotty a fast way is just:   ps ax|grep mysqld
[05:04] <intelikey> pidof mysqld
[05:05] <scotty> genii: 10240 pts/6    R+     0:00 grep mysqld
[05:05] <chemicalvamp> stdin you around?
[05:05] <genii> the "ax" likely not needed, just habit on my part
[05:05] <genii> scotty So it's NOT running
[05:05] <scotty> Ah, how do I run it?
[05:05] <salsamonu> hi
[05:06] <genii> scotty so something then like:   sudo /etc/init.d/mysqld     (I forget if that is the exact name but you can   ls /etc/init.d for the exact one)
[05:06] <genii> may be mysql-server    or similar
[05:06] <intelikey>      pidof pidof ;man pidof & pidof man
[05:06] <salsamonu> i have a problem where when booting to kubuntu it keep showing udev_event_run :seq bla bla forked pid blabla, add/remove vc
[05:07] <intelikey> tab-complete it.
[05:07] <salsamonu> anyone have an idea ?
[05:07] <salsamonu> how to fix this
[05:07] <scotty> genii:
[05:07] <scotty> root@scotty-laptop:~# sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start
[05:07] <scotty>  * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail] 
[05:08] <genii> scotty Please, don't multiline paste ehre if at all possible :)
[05:08] <intelikey> salsamonu the init script  udev   seems to be in a loop condition
[05:08] <scotty> sorry
[05:08] <salsamonu> how to fix it ?
[05:08] <genii> scotty 2 lines aint too bad tho :)
[05:08] <salsamonu> i never touch that inet script
[05:09] <ubuntu> hello
[05:09] <scotty> genii: my bad, nontheless. any idea how to fix it, though?
[05:09] <ubuntu> can anyone help me use a live cd to fix my installation
[05:09] <intelikey> can you get me the exact error ?
[05:09] <genii> scotty Did you have some mysql databse before that worked? Or did you not/never set one up initially
[05:09] <intelikey> salsamonu ^
[05:09] <scotty> genii: I don't think I did.
[05:10] <salsamonu> yup
[05:10] <scotty> I've had trouble with mysql since I first tried to set it up
[05:10] <genii> scotty OK. Let me see if I can find a good walk-through tutorial for you then :)
[05:10] <scotty> genii: thanks
[05:11] <genii> scotty You on dapper edgy feisty ?
[05:11] <scotty> Edgy
[05:11] <genii> k
[05:11] <intelikey> hooray for horay
[05:11] <ubuntu> how do I restore a messed up feisty install back to edgy?
[05:12] <intelikey> ubuntu you drop the install cd in the tray and reboot....
[05:12] <genii> scotty and do you have a server install or regular desktop install?
[05:12] <salsamonu> how to fix init script udev ?
[05:12] <scotty> genii: regular desktop
[05:12] <genii> k
[05:13] <ubuntu> intelikey, well it was actually an upgrade
[05:13] <scotty> I'm trying to get MySQL up for Apache2 so I can start with my new book.
[05:13] <scotty> But I ran into problems
[05:13] <intelikey> ubuntu  not the answer you want i know.  but that's about all the choice you have on a down grade.
[05:13] <salsamonu> use apt-get scotty
[05:13] <ubuntu> a reinstall?
[05:13] <salsamonu> apt-get install apache2
[05:13] <salsamonu> apt-get install mysql-server
[05:13] <scotty> salsamonu: I have Apache2 and PHP installed already.
[05:14] <salsamonu> and then what is the error ?
[05:14] <scotty> I ran into problems with MySQL, and genii and intelikey have been helping me.
[05:14] <intelikey> salsamonu what's the error ?
[05:14] <salsamonu> apt-get --purge remove mysql*
[05:14] <salsamonu> then install mysql again
[05:14] <salsamonu> apt-get install mysql-server
[05:15] <scotty> Alright, I'll try
[05:15] <calamari> hi
[05:15] <salsamonu> and the worst thing is i still cannot find solution for it
[05:15] <scotty> I hope not
[05:15] <salsamonu> arghhh
[05:16] <calamari> how do I disable the bouncing logos that happen when loading an app?  I found it once and thought it was cute at the time, but now it's annoying and I can't find it anywhere :P
[05:16] <Jucato> calamari: Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol", go to Appearance -> Launch Feedback
[05:17] <kalorin> anyone know of a way to monitor the fan speed on a graphics card?
[05:17] <kalorin> I keep hearing the fan in my machine going faster and slower over and over
[05:17] <genii> Scotty Well, as a fast check try this:  sudo apt-get install mysql-admin       then follow the instructions here to set up a database http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-unix-creating-database-and-table/    afterwards you can try starting the mysql daemon again
[05:17] <calamari> Jucato: thanks!
[05:17] <intelikey> jucato on dapper wasn't that   kcontrol parifreals mouse   something     ?
[05:17] <scotty> genii: I'm trying salsamonu's suggestion right now.
[05:18] <Jucato> intelikey: don't really remember...
[05:18] <genii> scotty :)
[05:18] <genii> kalorin What I did was just rig my GPU fan to run off aux motherboard plug and then the mb monitors it
[05:19] <kalorin> I don't get it though
[05:19] <kalorin> all this card is doing is pushing my xdesktop right now
[05:19] <genii> kalorin: It will speed up or slow down depending on how hot it is running of course. That is normal
[05:19] <kalorin> not like I'm even doing dri stuff
[05:19] <kalorin> yeah but I've never noticed it running like this under windows
[05:19] <scotty> genii: salsamonu's suggestion worked :D
[05:19] <kalorin> or even before I went to kubuntu from xbuntu
[05:20] <kalorin> I ran xbuntu for about a month and never noticed this at all
[05:20] <kalorin> it's just odd
[05:20] <salsamonu> i'm sure u not install mysql-server packages
[05:20] <genii> scotty Good, yer off to the races now :) Tho I'd suggest looking at the site I posted, it's very educational as to how mysql works generally
[05:20] <genii> salsamonu:  Good call
[05:21] <salsamonu> arghhh the worst thing is my problem, i still cannot find solution for it
[05:21] <intelikey> hmmmm  Mem usage: 14/249 MB (5%)  right now.   i checked on my hoary box and it said   Mem usage: 8/94 MB (8%)
[05:22] <intelikey> salsamonu  you never did tell me what the error actually is...
[05:22] <salsamonu> i have a problem where when booting to kubuntu it keep showing udev_event_run :seq bla bla forked pid blabla, add/remove vc
[05:23] <intelikey> yes yes  we talked about that.   now what is  "bla bla"
[05:23] <salsamonu> numbers
[05:23] <salsamonu> it a number
[05:24] <Hobbsee> intelikey: why do you have a hoary box?
[05:24] <salsamonu> never the number is continously
[05:24] <intelikey> Hobbsee why not ?
[05:24] <salsamonu> i cannot login to desktop
[05:24] <Hobbsee> intelikey: because it's unsupported?
[05:24] <genii> Hobbsee:  Why not?
[05:24] <intelikey> salsamonu sudo /etc/init.d/udev stop
[05:24] <genii> But it runs lean :)
[05:24] <intelikey> Hobbsee i support it.
[05:24] <intelikey> :)
[05:25] <salsamonu> yup rite now i can do that
[05:25] <salsamonu> because rite now i'm login in single mode
[05:25] <Hobbsee> intelikey: ahh
[05:25] <Hobbsee> intelikey: as long as you do the security updates yourself, or dont need them, that's fine :)
[05:25] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> lol
[05:25] <philphoto> anyone using a scanner with SANE in Feisty?
[05:25] <intelikey> called /var/cache/apt/archives   genii
[05:26] <genii> intelikey :)
[05:26] <salsamonu> Apr  4 01:26:22 localhost udevd[11552] : udev_event_run: seq 121900 forked, pid [16818] , 'remove' 'vc', 0 seconds old
[05:26] <salsamonu> Apr  4 01:26:22 localhost udevd[11552] : udev_event_run: seq 121901 forked, pid [16819] , 'remove' 'vc', 0 seconds old
[05:26] <salsamonu> Apr  4 01:26:22 localhost udevd[11552] : udev_event_run: seq 121902 forked, pid [16820] , 'remove' 'vc', 0 seconds old
[05:26] <genii> philphoto To see if your scanner is being seen:       sudo scanimage -L
[05:26] <intelikey> Hobbsee i dont need them.  it's just something i play around on.   write scripts...
[05:26] <scotty> TAKE THAT, MYSQL!
[05:27] <scotty> MUAHAHAHA!
[05:27] <scotty> Thanks guys.
[05:27] <Hobbsee> intelikey: ahhh :)
[05:27] <scotty> You're all life savers :D
[05:27] <genii> scotty Thats one reason I've mostly switched to postgre now
[05:27] <intelikey> salsamonu that feisty ?
[05:27] <scotty> genii: what's postgre?
[05:27] <intelikey> is that ^
[05:27] <genii> scotty Another type of database system
[05:28] <scotty> Ah
[05:28] <salsamonu> yup
[05:28] <salsamonu> it's feisty
[05:28] <genii> scotty you can recover databses after a cold reboot for instance which sometimes will totally kill mysql
[05:28] <salsamonu> ocalhost udevd-event[14013] : udev_db_get_device: no db file to read /dev/.udev/db/%2fclass%2fdrm%2fcard0: No such file or directory
[05:28] <intelikey> salsamonu for want of more knowledge on that, i'm gona send you to   #ubuntu+1
[05:29] <salsamonu> ohh ya
[05:29] <salsamonu> forgot it
[05:29] <salsamonu> sorry
[05:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> whats a cold reboot?
[05:29] <salsamonu> thank for remind me
[05:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i've heard of hard reboots... never cold ones
[05:29] <genii> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: unplugging the power cord
[05:29] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> ohhh
[05:29] <genii> :)
[05:30] <genii> Tho thats what I mainly call it, dunno if it's general slang LOL
[05:30] <ffffu> hi i have a script that rsync one computer's files to another in crontab .. when it run the script, wouldn't rsync prompt for password ? why does existing one still work
[05:31] <Daisuke_Ido> that's what i've always called it.  cold...
[05:31] <scotty> Genii: What would my MYSQL username be? I know my password ...
[05:32] <genii> scotty default is mysql     but examine that link i gave ages ago for better clues :)
[05:32] <compilerwriter> !source
[05:32] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[05:34] <compilerwriter> !repos
[05:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:34] <salsamonu> scotty: try install webmin. easier for u to manage ur mysql apache
[05:36] <intelikey> elinks is churning out errors on startup   http://pastebin.us/?dl=21124   it seems to be working ok  but i hate the beeps at start up.
[05:36] <genii> webmin is evil...but thats just one guys opinion
[05:37] <intelikey> eval is evil
[05:37] <salsamonu> yeahh *happy* my dreamhost domain resolved
[05:37] <genii> Yes. And longer to type than   "!"
[05:38] <genii> ^intelikey
[05:38] <intelikey> yeah
[05:38] <genii> "if" is even really unnecessaary
[05:39] <philphoto> ok, I've tried installing sane-utils, even though I already have Xsane installed and still I have no scanner showing up.  Yes, it's plugged in.  and it worked just 5 days ago.
[05:39] <genii> "if !blah then blah"   could just be !blah dothis
[05:40] <genii> philphoto: See my first reply to your issue.
[05:40] <intelikey> blah || dothis
[05:40] <genii> intelikey :)
[05:40] <philphoto> did that.  "command not found"
[05:41] <genii> philphoto: Then:   sudo install sane-backends
[05:41] <philphoto> thanks I'll give it a try
[05:41] <philphoto> install: missing destination file operand after `sane-backends'
[05:42] <genii> philphoto sorry, wrong syntax I gave:)     sudo apt-get install sane-backends
[05:42] <genii> LOL
[05:42] <genii> forgot the "apt-get" part  very horrible of me
[05:43] <philphoto> I forgot apt-get myself.  thanks
[05:44] <philphoto> E: Couldn't find package sane-backends
[05:44] <intelikey> i use urpm for all my package management
[05:44] <nastume_> ok
[05:44] <nastume_> reboot
[05:44] <philphoto> I don't understand since last week it was basically plug & play
[05:44] <intelikey> philphoto not plural
[05:44] <philphoto> gotcha
[05:45] <intelikey> !xsane
[05:45] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:46] <genii> philphoto I am not on a linux box right now so if the package names aren't the exact verbatim ones thats why. I can't just go check apt-cache for instance
[05:46] <intelikey> !sane-utils
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sane-utils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <intelikey> !info sane-utils
[05:46] <ubotu> sane-utils: API library for scanners -- utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.18-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 118 kB, installed size 324 kB
[05:47] <genii> philphoto: Anyhow, !info scanimage
[05:47] <genii> arg
[05:47] <genii> !info scanimage
[05:47] <ubotu> Package scanimage does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:47] <genii> ????
[05:47] <genii> wtf
[05:47] <markrian> Does KPDF offer a way to navigate bookmarks set by a user in a PDF document?
[05:47] <genii> ah likely part of a package LOL
[05:48] <intelikey> genii   urpmq scanimage  yelds    libsane - API library for scanners
[05:48] <intelikey> sane - scanner graphical frontends
[05:48] <intelikey> sane-utils - API library for scanners -- utilities
[05:48] <philphoto> I've got both
[05:50] <genii> philphoto so if you do at commandline:   sudo scanimage -L      it should show you what scanning devices it knows about
[05:51] <philphoto> hey, there it is
[05:51] <philphoto> of course sane says there are no devices installed
[05:52] <intelikey> i never did get that thing to scan to the computer
[05:52] <genii> philphoto: try:    sudo  sane-find-scanner -vv
[05:52] <intelikey> -w ?
[05:53] <genii> no, two v
[05:53] <intelikey> oh -v -v    hehhe
[05:53] <genii> extra verbose :)
[05:53] <intelikey> yeah i did that and it finds the brother then i try to run sane and it errors out with no device installed.
[05:54] <intelikey> but i gave up on that months ago
[05:54] <philphoto> lots of info.  mostly "...failed to open" lines.
[05:54] <philphoto> the scanner IS in there though.
[05:55] <genii> philphoto By default the X prograqms look to a generic /dev name like loop0 or so. But the device itself is some other name. That is usually the issue in this scenario
[05:55] <philphoto> I'm stumped.
[05:55] <intelikey> well i fixed the permissions problem... it couldn't access  ~/.elinks/     i didn't own it....    8*{
[05:55] <philphoto> scanimage -L said no scanners were identified
[05:56] <genii> philphoto Well, put it in the pastebin and I'll look at it
[05:56] <genii> (the output of -vv)
[05:56] <philphoto> thanks
[05:57] <philphoto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13827/
[05:57] <genii> intelikey The all in ones are a pain for the same reason all in one motherboards are. Even when everything works. But one component goes blooey and then yer out 3 functions
[05:58] <danny500> #ubuntu
[05:58] <genii> philphoto good, it sees your scanner :)
[05:58] <genii> at dev/sg2
[05:59] <danny500> Um, I'm trying to upgrade my MPlayer and I want to install a couple of skins for it and some codec but don't know how, any help/
[05:59] <genii> philphoto  so, for the moment to test (not a permanent solution):   make a link in dev.eg:   sudo ln-s /dev/sg2 /dev/loop0
[06:01] (ffffu/#kubuntu) is there a way?
[06:01] (intelikey/#kubuntu) that was different.       well i fixed the "no job control" issue too.    err actually just a work around
[06:02] (intelikey/#kubuntu) ffffu expect could auth for you
[06:02] <philphoto> ok.
[06:03] <genii> philphoto Did you do the link properly   then after the sudo scanimage -L    ?
[06:03] <philphoto> I think so.
[06:04] <philphoto> this is what I got: ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/loop0' to `/dev/sg2': File exists
[06:04] <intelikey> ffffu the syntax is something like    spawn blah ;expect 'blah blah' ;send 'blah blah blah'
[06:04] <genii> philphoto:  if you do:  ls /dev/loop*   does it show /dev/loop0  ?
[06:04] <philphoto> yes
[06:04] <intelikey> ffffu thats for a    #!/usr/bin/expect -f     script.
[06:04] <philphoto> and in COLOR too!  (whatever that means...)
[06:05] <genii> philphoto: Good :) and after that, still no recognised from the command    sudo scanimage -L       ?
[06:05] <philphoto> oh, I didn't realize I was supposed to keep running that one, sorry.
[06:05] <genii> philphoto: The different colour indicates it is a link
[06:05] <philphoto> yup, it shows the scnner
[06:06] <genii> Good. thats the problem then
[06:06] <philphoto> which means?
[06:06] <philphoto> this is all way fast for me on only my 10th day of Linux immersion
[06:06] <genii> Set up your scanning program to use /dev/sg2 as the device
[06:07] <philphoto> I can't even open it though to configure it
[06:07] <philphoto> that's the big problem I have.  let me see if I can now
[06:07] <intelikey> ffffu if you do that   be advised that storing a password in an expect script can be a security hole.      send could be something like   send `sudo cat /etc/mypassphrase`     thus making the storage of the passwd a little more secure    (assuming you chmod it to 600 with owner root)
[06:08] <philphoto> still no scanner recognized by the utility.
[06:09] <philphoto> I'd like to be able to understand what changed between last week when it worked & today though.
[06:09] <wolferine> need a hand with a samba drive(linux to linux), I have mounted it, now I want to work with the permissions on the server (from the client), if I want to allow the client to read and write, where do I specify that, and do I have to change my fstab (mount) to reflect changes?
[06:09] <philphoto> you hardcore helping types out there are awesome, by the way.
[06:10] <genii> philphoto Maybe you plugged it into a different port than it found it on the first time
[06:10] <intelikey> philphoto look in /var/log/dpkg*   probably answered there.
[06:10] <genii> philphoto: It will want to use the last setting it found it on
[06:10] <genii> intelikey Yeah likey
[06:10] <philphoto> I DID hot swap the 1394 cables, but that was before I started runnning all those commands.
[06:11] <philphoto> but yeah, I'll switch them
[06:11] <genii> philphoto: Next time you boot, make sure the scanner is powered on before the computer gets atarted
[06:11] <genii> started, even :)
[06:12] <philphoto> right.
[06:12] <intelikey> xtarted ?
[06:12] <philphoto> I tried that earlier tonight too before I got on here.
[06:12] <genii> intelikey: There are some X tarts out there ;)
[06:13] <intelikey> you know  xtartx is a good script name... it catches the un-suspecting gui'r
[06:13] <intelikey> like  sduo for sudo   :)
[06:13] <genii> philphoto: Then I suspect the scanning program is just defaulting to trying the place it last found the thing without attempting to look elsewhere
[06:13] <ffffu> intelikey: i tried something new.. i copy the key in my id_rsa.pub into authorized_keys
[06:14] <ffffu> and somehow it work
[06:14] <Admiral_Chicago> ffffu: ssh + LP ?
[06:14] <intelikey> eeek yeah.  but that makes full access for all ssh activity
[06:15] <ffffu> yeah ssh but what's LP?
[06:15] <ffffu> didn't know rsync is linked with ssh hehe
[06:15] <intelikey> ffffu yes it uses the ssh protocal
[06:15] <philphoto> so would I mount /dev/sg2 then?
[06:15] <ffffu> yeahh thxx
[06:16] <philphoto> or is that just a location for the scanner utility to look?
[06:16] <genii> philphoto: Another thing to try as well, if you hotswap cables etc. Is to turn off the scanner then power it back on after. Sometimes the system will autodetect it and adjust accordingly. As opposed to just leaving it on while switching the cables then trying to access it again
[06:16] <philphoto> I think I'm going to try the big reboot.
[06:16] <genii> philphoto: Thats just a place for the scanner utility to look :) don't try to mount that!
[06:16] <philphoto> right
[06:17] <philphoto> don't worry, I still can't mount any devices to save my life anyways
[06:18] <wolferine> need a hand with a samba drive(linux to linux), I have mounted it, now I want to work with the permissions on the server (from the client), if I want to allow the client to read and write, where do I specify that, and do I have to change my fstab (mount) to reflect changes?
[06:18] <intelikey> ffffu let me correct my self.   rsync uses  rsync protocal for file transfer   and ssh for authentication mechanics   i believe.
[06:18] <genii> philphoto: If you wanna reboot I'll hang here to help more if need be after
[06:18] <philphoto> thahnks!
[06:18] <genii> philphoto: np
[06:19] <genii> wolvThe first question that comes to mind is why are you using a linux-linux samba in the first place
[06:19] <wolferine> genii because it works
[06:20] <wolferine> i answered yours, take a stab at mine
[06:20] <intelikey> anyway ssh and rsync are full of shared code
[06:20] <[pyro] > hey guys. Has anyone had an install freeze at "Installing Boot Loader" ? Im installing on a raid 5 and it seems to always lock up there. I can kill the process and the installer throws up an error then gos back to the main menu, when i try and install the boot loader again (grub) it stops. Tailing the syslog file it says its probing the BIOS for devices, and that it will take a while.. but i think over an hour is a little too long :)
[06:21] <[pyro] > im using the alternate install cd
[06:21] <genii> wolferine: The likely place where this is in the smb.conf file under what share mount priveledges are mapped to
[06:21] <genii> and other things like guest ok   and so on
[06:21] <wolferine> [pyro] , did you check that the CD is good?
[06:21] <genii> "man smb.conf" is long and detailed ;)
[06:21] <wolferine> yeah, so what do I need to set to allow the connection to be read/writeable?
[06:21] <[pyro] > wolferine: yep CD passes the check test ok
[06:22] <[pyro] > wolferine: did a memory test too, its ok as well
[06:22] <wolferine> just read only = no and writable = yes
[06:22] <intelikey> !grub | [pyro] 
[06:22] <ubotu> [pyro] : grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:22] <wolferine> or just writable = yes
[06:22] <genii> wolferine: On a network no one else can get to just map any username to some username on the server which is allowed to write in that dir which is the samba share
[06:22] <intelikey> [pyro]  maybe you can install grub as if you were recovering it.  ^
[06:23] <wolferine> genii not sure I understand you
[06:23] <genii> wolferine: No, writeable = yes   is not enough. The usernames must still either get remapped or be the same etc etc
[06:23] <wolferine> the usernames are the same
[06:23] <[pyro] > intelikey: i was goign to do that, but not sure how to mount the raid array off a boot cd
[06:23] <philphoto> no change
[06:23] <nyinge> How do you take screen shot in kde?  Pressing "PrintScrn" shows no dialogue at all.
[06:24] <genii> wolferine: <sigh> Hangon I'll parse the smb.conf manual for you and distill it out. But it's a step you should be doing :)
[06:24] <philphoto> thanks for the help though, all of you.
[06:24] <intelikey> [pyro]  it should be mounted on  /target already
[06:24] <wolferine> genii, as long as I know its on the smb.conf end, I can do it
[06:24] <wolferine> but what else do I need to change?
[06:24] <wolferine> fstab ?
[06:24] <intelikey> [pyro]  you are still at the installer are you not ?
[06:24] <[pyro] > yes
[06:25] <intelikey> [pyro]  check /target
[06:25] <[pyro] > ok
[06:25] <genii> wolferine: OK good then. Simplest way is just put a guest ok   entry   then a map guest entry. Map the guest to some username on the server which has write auth to that directory
[06:25] <philphoto> another question: does everyone who's running Feisty have an error on startup?
[06:26] <genii> wolferine: No. fstab has no part in this. It's all in the smb.conf
[06:26] <wolferine> genii can you stop using my username in your response, please?
[06:26] <intelikey> philphoto question too broad for answers
[06:26] <genii> wolferine: No
[06:26] <philphoto> that's how you keep the messages separate wolferine
[06:27] <wolferine> i asked nicely
[06:27] <philphoto> error is "KDesktop: The application for the file process failed on startup"  or something very much like that
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> someone know of a paint bucket option in Inkscape to fill in a color?
[06:28] <genii> wolferine: I know, yes. Sorry if my response seemed rude. Was not intentional. Just that it makes logs much easier to parse and also if I put some instruction without saying who shjould execute it, there could be large mayhem
[06:28] <nonuda_> how do i setup my workgroup?
[06:29] <intelikey> oh krap.  i just did an lsmod.....   i have to clean out some of the junk in this kernel.....
[06:29] <ffffu> is there a way to restore files that i rm * ????????????
[06:29] <wolferine> genii thanks for you help, pls dont use my nick anymore
[06:29] <wolferine> thanks
[06:29] <ffffu> in root
[06:29] <ffffu> argh
[06:29] <ffffu> !restore
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <intelikey> ffffu what fs type ?
[06:29] <ffffu> !recover
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about recover - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <ffffu> ext3
[06:29] <intelikey> no
[06:30] <genii> LOL
[06:30] <ffffu> ext2?
[06:30] <nonuda_> currently i have setup shared folders in my ubuntu 6.10, but windows networking detect my my workgroup as "workgroup", how do i change it?
[06:31] <intelikey> yes if you stop all writing at once.     alt+SysRQ+u
[06:31] <philphoto> genii: you can use mine twice if you want.
[06:31] <ffffu> its impossible to restore the files i rm?
[06:31] <genii> philphoto:  :)
[06:31] <intelikey> not on ext3 ffffu
[06:31] <philphoto_philph> dang!  almost had it
[06:32] <genii> philphoto:  At any rate, if you are not planning to move the scanner around on the cables a lot, you could make a small script to just create a link in /dev
[06:32] <intelikey> the think that makes most like ext3 is the reason you can't.    the "journal"
[06:32] <wolferine> can someone help me with samba shares?
[06:33] <intelikey> !samba | wolferine
[06:33] <ubotu> wolferine: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:33] <wolferine> !swat
[06:33] <wolferine> !swat | wolferine
[06:33] <genii> nonuda_: open the smb.conf   file in an editor with root privelege and change where it says WORKGROUP to whatever you like
[06:33] <intelikey> !info swat
[06:33] <ubotu> swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 739 kB, installed size 2052 kB
[06:34] <genii> intelikey: Good call
[06:34] <nonuda_> genii, thanks
[06:34] <genii> nonuda_: np :)
[06:34] <intelikey> but packagemanager wise
[06:34] <wolferine> does SWAT make changes to fstab as well?
[06:35] <ffffu> i'm dead
[06:35] <philphoto> I guess.  I'd rather it work like it should.  *pondering what could have changed"
[06:35] <genii> philphoto: You want, I'll make a small one for you and pastebin it. then you just put it in /etc/init.d  and make it executable
[06:35] <intelikey> ffffu what did you rm anyway ?    and how did you rm them/it ?
[06:37] <intelikey> ffffu you said "in root"  so i assume you did   sudo rm <something>   ?
[06:37] <wolferine> genii,  please, I dont want to add you to ignore
[06:37] <wolferine> i have asked twice nicely
[06:37] <intelikey> genii you have to play with fstab to learn linux,  every new bi knows that.
[06:37] <philphoto> sounds complicated for this n00b.  but I'll give it a try
[06:37] <genii> wolferine: Won't bother me a bit :)
[06:38] <intelikey> wolferine so ignore us.
[06:38] <wolferine> intelikey, excuse me?
[06:39] <intelikey> wolferine or you could turn off the beep feature in your irc client.
[06:39] <wolferine> intelikey, yours assuming alot
[06:39] <intelikey> wolferine yes     so what did i miss ?
[06:39] <genii> intelikey: What bothers me is I've already told him how to solve his issue but he is unwilling
[06:40] <intelikey> genii yeah i know.
[06:40] <genii> philphoto OK gimme a minute
[06:40] <intelikey> genii i don't often pull the /ignor out   but i make exceptions now and then....
[06:41] <genii> intelikey: Same here
[06:42] <nonuda_> damn..i can't find smb.conf, genii, where is it?
[06:42] <genii> nonuda_:  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:43] <intelikey> boy!  that cold front went through, and the mercury went down so fast in the thermometer it busted the bottom out of the bulb...
[06:43] <nonuda_> ah...thanks again
[06:45] <kai> Does any one know how to remove the file sharing modulae
[06:45] <kai> I can't use it doens't display properly or anything
[06:45] <chemicalvamp> i got a problem, ok this is gonna be kinda confusing.. but here goes
[06:46] <chemicalvamp> im running a desktopcd of edgy, and im chrooted into my fiesty install (have to, to get my internet to work)
[06:47] <terran4000|away> hey ... does anyone try using raid in feisty?
[06:47] <chemicalvamp> im following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NdiswrapperOnAMD64 to fix it, but im getting confused
[06:47] <terran4000|away> !raid > terran4000|away
[06:47] <intelikey> chemicalvamp the running kernel is not installed in the chroot.
[06:49] <chemicalvamp> is the debian foler i need in /mnt/hda1/  ?
[06:49] <intelikey> i think maybe you should dl any and all files needed, including that html doc  and boot into the system you are fixing.  then fix it.
[06:50] <chemicalvamp> where is the debain folder i need to find to continue?
[06:50] <kai> any assitance
[06:51] <kai> ..file saring not working, is there way i can restarted the module
[06:51] <terran4000|away> any one software raid with mdamd?
[06:52] <philphoto> my epson scanner was recognized by my system as a printer.  how odd.
[06:53] <intelikey> chemicalvamp the dir in Q is in the tar ball    when you untar the archive it will have a subdir
[06:53] <intelikey> i still think you would be better off building that from the running system.
[06:53] <zak_> can anyone suggest a good file sharing program [much too lazy to install limewire, and it eats up too much RAM] ?
[06:54] <kalorin> firefox?
[06:54] <intelikey> !frostwire | zak_
[06:54] <ubotu> zak_: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:54] <intelikey> !ktorents | zak_
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorents - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <intelikey> !ktorent | zak_
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <zak_> intelikey: frostwire eats up just as much RAM as it's sibling :)
[06:55] <philphoto> !ktorrent
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <intelikey> well my arent you special ubotu
[06:55] <kalorin> zak, try firefox :)
[06:55] <philphoto> wow, didn't know it with either spelling
[06:55] <zak_> heh
[06:55] <zak_> i think i'll just use lime/frostwire
[06:56] <intelikey> !info ktorrent
[06:56] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1154 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[06:56] <chemicalvamp> intelikey yes i right clicked, did extract here the new folder doesnt have a debian directory
[06:57] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> anyone know why kubuntu live cd will mount an ntfs driver but has it locked out so that i cannot access it?
[06:57] <intelikey> chemicalvamp well that's what the wiki is telling you.
[06:57] <intelikey> !p2p | zak_
[06:57] <ubotu> zak_: Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[06:58] <chemicalvamp> intelikey its a source.. do i hve to like compile it?
[06:58] <twiztr> How do I restart KDM without rebooting the computer?
[06:58] <stdin> twiztr: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:58] <intelikey> chemicalvamp yes that's why it said install build-essential and all the other krap
[06:59] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: what do you mean you can't access it? can't write or can't even read ?
[06:59] <intelikey> chemicalvamp that's also why i said do it from the running system not a chroot.
[06:59] <intelikey> building source is haphazerd enough without adding a chroot and different kernel versions...
[06:59] <chemicalvamp> intelikey tempting, but i had to do alot more then just chroot to get this to where it is
[06:59] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: cant' even read
[07:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: in konq its got a lock, in term it says denied
[07:00] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: how did you mount it?
[07:00] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda2 /windows
[07:01] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: try: sudo mount /dev/hda2 -o remount,umask=0000
[07:01] <intelikey> :)
[07:01] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: you'll need the umask to access it
[07:01] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> its the livecd
[07:01] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> so isn't the default like 1000
[07:02] <intelikey> :)
[07:02] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: not uid, umask
[07:02] <intelikey> :)
[07:02] <stdin> intelikey: what you smiling about? :P
[07:02] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> what is the umask on the live cd?
[07:03] <intelikey> while this is highly entertaining.  i must go do rounds....   lol
[07:03] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: don't know, what's "ls -ld /windows" show ?
[07:03] <intelikey> t3hwiz0rd-ibook  umask is the "user mask" that will be set on the mounted device.  has nothing to do with  uid " user idintigication "
[07:03] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> stdin: i got it with uid of 0000
[07:04] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: uid 0000 ??
[07:04] <stdin> umask, you mean?
[07:04] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> yes
[07:04] <chemicalvamp> intelikey is there a way to do this te way i want?
[07:05] <stdin> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: they are very different things, umask modifies permissions, uid sets the owner
[07:06] <genii> Weird it keeps telling me I'm spamming the pastebin
[07:07] <stdin> genii: does that to me too sometmes, even when I haven't used it in days
[07:07] <genii> stdin Got it now but very odd
[07:07] <genii> philphoto Still here?
[07:09] <philphoto> yup
[07:10] <genii> philphoto Cut and paste from here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13836/    into some text editor. Save the file with name of  scanlink   into /etc/init.d   and then do:   sudo chown root:root /etc/init.d/scanlink && sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/scanlink
[07:10] <terran4000> anyone here use Raid?
[07:11] <genii> philphoto: It will make a symlink on boot to your actual scanner if it doesn't already exist. Also echos back what it is doing etc
[07:11] <Jucato> !caps | SOLLOG_HELPED
[07:11] <ubotu> SOLLOG_HELPED: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:11] <SOLLOG_HELPED> thanks Jucato
[07:12] <stdin> SOLLOG_HELPED: please don't spam the channel
[07:12] <Jucato> SOLLOG_HELPED: please stop spamming and drop the caps
[07:12] <philphoto> save thousands of lives in the off topic chat
[07:12] <genii> A bot
[07:12] <philphoto> right
[07:12] <uda> !pastebin
[07:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:12] <Jucato> SOLLOG_KNEW: last warning
[07:12] <Jucato> stop spamming
[07:13] <genii> Jucato I'd just ban SOLLOG*
[07:13] <philphoto> SOLLOG PWNED!
[07:13] <genii> !opsnack
[07:13] <ubotu> Peanuts!
[07:13] <Jucato> Yum!
[07:14] <genii> :)
[07:14] <terran4000> wow ... this is such bs ... the installation of mdadm makes feisty remove all the linux autoraid detect partitions!
[07:14] <genii> mdadm isn't that ancient??
[07:14] <uda> i cant paste a config file in pastebin, it said i must enable javascript, how do i enable it?
[07:14] <terran4000> only thing I know of to use software raid
[07:14] <philphoto> genii: so you were saying, copy the text into an editor, say kate?
[07:15] <genii> philphoto :) Yes. To save it in that dir tho you need to open kate with root privelege tho, so   kdesu kate
[07:16] <terran4000> genii: know of anything other than mdadm to use software raid?
[07:16] <philphoto> bah.  ok.
[07:16] <genii> philphoto Then save it as name  scanlink     into /etc/init.d
[07:18] <kgx> does anyone if its possible to have the 'last' line in the console stay in the middle of the screen instead of the bottom. i think its contributing to my rsi :(
[07:19] <genii> terran4000 I hate webmin but it has an understandable decent raid module to it
[07:19] <genii> philphoto To make the file executable so it can run, do: sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/scanlink
[07:20] <philphoto> genii: no devices available.
[07:20] <philphoto> perhaps this thing is broken.
[07:21] <philphoto> I've got no clue.
[07:21] <genii> philphoto What scan program are you using?
[07:21] <philphoto> either way, thank you very much for all your help
[07:21] <philphoto> Xsane
[07:21] <genii> philphoto Hangon a minute
[07:22] <philphoto> I removed Kooka as well because it's a front end of sane & there could have been a conflict between teh two.
[07:23] <kumamoto> kubuntu has disappointed me
[07:23] <philphoto> why so?
[07:23] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> cos it cant play halo *snort*
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> kumamoto: why is that
[07:24] <genii> philphoto: There is a very good howto here but not for the faint-hearted :) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-11718.html
[07:24] <kumamoto> no support for gstreamer can't stream nothing for nothing
[07:24] <genii> philphoto: Where it has references to gedit in the article just use kdesu  instead
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> gstreamer is meant to be used with GNOME afaik
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> its still in the repositories
[07:25] <genii> philphoto:   kdesu kate  even
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> so I can run things like Jokosher on my computer
[07:25] <stdin> I have gstreamer installd on kubuntu, works fine
[07:25] <philphoto> ok
[07:25] <stdin> (unlike Jokosher) :P
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> haha
[07:25] <Jucato> stdin: you're able to use gstreamer in amarok?
[07:25] <philphoto> how would I run xsane as root in terminal?
[07:25] <Admiral_Chicago> well that was an example.
[07:26] <philphoto> I'm going to give that a try in case its a permissions issue.
[07:26] <stdin> Jucato: never tried it with amarok, just xine
[07:26] <Jucato> stdin: just making sure. I'd be shocked if you were able to make it work :D
[07:27] <philphoto> yowza, it warned me that running the scanner util was "really dangerous"
[07:27] <stdin> Jucato: so would the amarok devs :P
[07:27] <philphoto> as root, that is
[07:28] <berg> hello folk
[07:28] <genii> philphoto: Yes, there is a user for the scanner. the name should be "sane"
[07:30] <genii> philphoto How you can run things as another user is like so:   sudo su <namehere> -c "command here"
[07:30] <kumamoto> stdin: maybe am using a wrong version meaning edgy dapper
[07:30] <berg> I am trying to run Mushclient with wine I have it running and seems to be fine except i cant use my VB scripts i looked up and found i need to install or register the vbscript.dll mush client has a reg dll opention but it cant find it where would i put the dll so it can?
[07:30] <genii> philphoto: In the above example put the quotes
[07:30] <kumamoto> can't seem to get any gstreamer engine working for amarok or anything
[07:31] <kumamoto> kind a stumped on it
[07:31] <stdin> kumamoto: gstreamer won'y work with amarok, it uses xine
[07:32] <kumamoto> is that in kubuntu only cause I have used it in gentoo (forgive me) and seems to work flawlessly that is why am kind of ......
[07:32] <Jucato> kumamoto: some time around Amarok 1.4.x, they temporarily dropped support for gstreamer because of some issues. so currently, amarok only works with xine
[07:32] <zak_> is there a howto or anything for flash on 7.04?
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> zak_: what do you need
[07:33] <Admiral_Chicago> to do that is
[07:33] <stdin> zak_: same as the one for 6.10, enable multiverse and install "flashplugin-nonfree"
[07:34] <Admiral_Chicago> when Feisty is released that is
[07:34] <Jucato> stdin: uni and multi are enabled by default now :)
[07:35] <Jucato> zak_: or just try to go to a site that has Flash content and a script will run asking if you want to install Flash
[07:35] <stdin> Jucato: wasn't on my install, because I installed on herd-1, but yeah they are now
[07:35] <zak_> according to adept, i have multiverse enabled, and neither the proper flash plugin or the sun jdk are available... should i do some manual editing of sources?
[07:35] <Jucato> hm.. strange...
[07:35] <stdin> zak_: are you on the amd64 version?
[07:35] <zak_> Jucato: i have... but it doesn't seem to do it any more...
[07:35] <zak_> stdin: nup, just plain x86
[07:36] <zak_> oh wait... maybe i just thought there was flash content on the page i was looking at...
[07:36] <stdin> zak_: adobe.com should work as a test page for flash
[07:37] <Jucato> or youtube :)
[07:37] <kumamoto> Jucato: that would make sense , so I guess streaming from my radio stations is out of the question
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> kumamoto: i use VLC for steaming radio.
[07:38] <Jucato> kumamoto: nope. xine works fine with the correct codec (you actually need only 2 :D)
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> but also amarok for other podcasts like LUGradio
[07:39] <kumamoto> Jucato: which codec is that ?
[07:39] <Jucato> kumamoto: libxine-extracodecs
[07:39] <kumamoto> Admiral_Chicago: that was another thing couldn't find vlc in repos
[07:40] <kumamoto> Jucato: yeah I was looked for them couldn't find them
[07:40] <Jucato> !mp3 | kumamoto
[07:40] <ubotu> kumamoto: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <gustavo> hi
[07:41] <Jucato> kumamoto: just follow the RestrictedFormats/MP3 page and follow the Kubuntu instructions
[07:41] <gustavo> anyone knows how i save virtual hosts to /etc/networks/interfaces ?
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> kumamoto: its in universe. might want to recheck you  repositories
[07:41] <genii> gustavo: you mean like  eth0_alias1  entries?
[07:42] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hm?
[07:42] <kumamoto> ubotu: I saw those links earlier and make sense out of them I will reread them and see what I can find
[07:42] <Jucato> kumamoto: ubotu is a bot
[07:42] <gustavo> like eth0:1, etc, yeah.
[07:42] <gustavo> genii: like eth0:1, etc, yeah.
[07:42] <kumamoto> Admiral_Chicago: I did check with the universe and nothing doing
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> kumamoto: apt-cache policy vlc
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> what does it say
[07:42] <gustavo> genii:  i want it to be loaded when i boot
[07:42] <kumamoto> Jucato: lol I no noting
[07:43] <genii> gustavo: If you do "man interfaces"  it has some info :)
[07:43] <kumamoto> Admiral_Chicago: i will check it out and see what i find
[07:43] <genii> gustavo: You are putting multiple IP on one interface?
[07:43] <gustavo> yes
[07:43] <berg> bye folks
[07:43] <Jucato> kumamoto: ah Admiral_Chicago is telling you how to install VLC
[07:44] <gustavo> genii: im configuring some dns domains on my machine
[07:44] <genii> gustavo: Yes, then the idea like eth0_alias0 entry then eth0_alias1   and so on is what you want
[07:44] <gustavo> genii: i did it...
[07:45] <genii> gustavo Put also in /etc/iftab entries with the _alias#  part
[07:45] <genii> (but same mac)
[07:46] <darryl_> whats a good comparable FTP client to the WinDOZE WSFTP ?
[07:46] <kumamoto> Jucato: yeah I meant i will check out that apt-get option and see if it installs vlc for me
[07:46] <gustavo> genii: iftab? it doesnt exists
[07:46] <kumamoto> thanks all for the help that was the only beef I had
[07:46] <Jucato> !ftp | darryl_
[07:46] <ubotu> darryl_: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[07:46] <darryl_> jucato: wow
[07:47] <genii> gustavo I am fairly certian that it does.  the file   /etc/iftab   hIj eFg TAB
[07:47] <Jucato> not sure if that's what you were looking for... not familiar with wsftp
[07:47] <gustavo> genii: not here :/
[07:47] <stdin> darryl_: konqueror is a nice ftp client, well intergrated
[07:47] <darryl_> stdin: yea I looking for something that can import from my WSFTP  app (if possible) but more over to work in a simialr way
[07:48] <Jucato> stdin: well, any KDE app is well integrated :)
[07:48] <genii> gustavo: If it does not exist then you can create one
[07:48] <stdin> Jucato: that was kinda the point :p
[07:49] <darryl_> whats the general consenses on one of the "better" ftp apps to use??
[07:49] <genii> gustavo: For syntax (since you don't have an example in there already) do "man iftab"
[07:49] <gustavo> genii: i guess the problem is that im using iface, i should use logical, dont i?
[07:49] <Jucato> darryl_: you'll find that concensus is overrated :D
[07:49] <darryl_> heh
[07:49] <Jucato> try them all and pick what you like :)
[07:49] <kumamoto> love konqueror though it isn't supported by gmail and yahoo mail which is cool on gmail I see no ads
[07:49] <genii> gustavo What you need is similar to eth0_alias0 mac aa:aa:aa:aa:aa:aa arp 1
[07:49] <Jucato> kumamoto: you can start rejoicing that gmail basically works on Konqueror :)
[07:50] <Jucato> even the google talk part "basically" works
[07:50] <darryl_> too bad there isnt a Linux versoin for WSFTP that would be cool
[07:50] <AbortD> is there a way i can edit xorg from a live cd session?
[07:50] <Jucato> AbortD: your installed system's xorg.conf?
[07:50] <AbortD> yes
[07:51] <Jucato> AbortD: hm.. just mount the partition where / (root directory) is installed and edit
[07:51] <genii> gustavo If you have at least an eth0  entry then you can add all the eth0_alias#n  entries you like. the eth0 real one needs to be on top though
[07:51] <AbortD> and i do this how?
[07:51] <Jucato> er.. that's the harder part :D
[07:52] <AbortD> i dunno if i am up to it tonight i guess
[07:52] <stdin> AbortD: what device is your root on? /dev/hda1?
[07:52] <gustavo> genii: i will try it, thanks :)
[07:52] <AbortD> im tired and just got in a car accident
[07:52] <genii> gustavo:  :)
[07:52] <mzanfardino_> I've recently downloaded an mp4 video and I want to burn it to dvd.  Do I need to use transcode (as I would with an AVI file) to prep to burn?  Or is there another tool required?
[07:52] <AbortD> what do you mean what device?
[07:52] <gustavo> anyone knows how to replace a word in vim?
[07:53] <genii> stdin: I'm thin king he wants to change the livecd xorg and not one on some previously installed system :)
[07:53] <AbortD> my system is istalled to /dev/hda3
[07:53] <gustavo> anyone knows how to replace a word in vim? like substitue a word for another one
[07:53] <genii> stdin Or not :)
[07:54] <genii> gustavo: I can never remember. Thats why I use mainly nano
[07:54] <stdin> AbortD: you can mount /dev/hda3 to /mnt and edit /mnt/ect/X11/xorg.conf, "sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt"
[07:54] <AbortD> stdin its in /dev/hda3
[07:54] <gustavo> lol ;P
[07:54] <mzanfardino_> gustavo: you could use nano insted
[07:54] <AbortD> hanks
[07:54] <AbortD> thanks
[07:54] <gustavo> i use it sometimes
[07:55] <gogeta> hello
[07:55] <gogeta> i cant get to the console on the beta live cd
[07:55] <gogeta> i need to do so to reconfig xorg couse it never has saw my ati right
[07:56] <stdin> gogeta: Feisty support/questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[07:56] <AbortD> :P
[07:57] <AbortD> i dunno what to even do with my xorg now :|
[08:00] <gustavo> genii: didnt work :(
[08:01] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> is it true that using the standby mode on some laptops simply crashes?
[08:02] <gustavo> eth1-1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[08:02] <gustavo> :(
[08:02] <gustavo> i guess theres a different way to describe it, as a virtual iface
[08:03] <genii> gustava Do you have 2 ethernet cards in your computer or only 1?
[08:03] <fdoving> gustavo: eth1:0 eth1:1 eth1:2 and so on.
[08:04] <gustavo> genii: i have 2, my interfaces works, i just want it to be load when i boot, so i dont have to set it again every time i boot
[08:04] <fdoving> gustavo: and replacing in vim :%s/foo/bar/g
[08:04] <genii> gustavo eth0 = first PHYSICAL adapter   eth0:0 = first VIRTUAL adapter   etc
[08:04] <genii> gustavo Then you need to put in /etc/iftab one entry for eth0  and one entry for eth1
[08:05] <genii> gustavo No messing with virtual crap
[08:05] <intelikey> # umount disk
[08:05] <intelikey> umount: /mnt/disk: device is busy
[08:05] <fdoving> genii: /etc/fstab shall not have network interfaces.
[08:05] <fdoving> intelikey: you can use the -l flag to umount.
[08:05] <genii> fdoving I did not write fstab I wrote iftab
[08:05] <fdoving> genii: ah.. sorry, my bad.
[08:06] <fdoving> i'll shutup and go to work. bye :)
[08:06] <fdoving> thanks, i really need that :)
[08:06] <genii> fdoving :) np
[08:07] <genii> gustavo If you had 10 ethernet adapters and you put a line each in /etc/iftab for them they will all start on boot
[08:07] <intelikey> fdoving -l  ?    hmmm
[08:08] <gustavo> genii: i did it
[08:09] <gustavo> then ifup -a
[08:09] <genii> gustavo Please use the pastebin website to show me exactly what you put in the file /etc/iftab
[08:10] <gustavo> passa me the address please, i dont usually use it
[08:10] <genii> !pastebin | gustavo
[08:10] <ubotu> gustavo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:10] <gustavo> thanks
[08:11] <intelikey> i forgot how slow wine is.......
[08:11] <genii> Wine Is Not Extremely fast
[08:13] <genii> gustavo don't forget to put the URL it gives you here so I know where to go look for it :)
[08:13] <intelikey> no but it is extremely slow
[08:13] <gustavo> genii http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13847/
[08:13] <genii> thx, reading
[08:14] <abortd> that worked
[08:14] <abortd> anyone know how to fix ubuntus sync?
[08:14] <abortd> vsync
[08:14] <genii> gustavo Do you actually have 10 IP addresses running on your second ethernet adapter? I suspect not
[08:15] <intelikey> wine must ride the short bus.
[08:15] <abortd> yes it does
[08:15] <gustavo> yes
[08:15] <genii> gustavo Also do eth1:1 not eth1_1
[08:15] <gustavo> genii: yes... i did eth1:1 :P
[08:16] <gustavo> genii: im configuring 10 different dns domains, thats why 10 virtual interfaces
[08:17] <genii> gustavo Since you seem to have a pretty convoluted setup please also post the contents of /etc/network/interfaces   also
[08:18] <kumamoto> what is the alternative to wine apart form cedega which is practically for games
[08:18] <genii> gustavo: If there is onfo there sensitive, PM me the link after
[08:18] <intelikey> kumamoto not using M$ crap ?
[08:18] <gustavo> genii: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13848/
[08:19] <stdin> kumamoto: there is that crossover office thing, based on wine
[08:19] <abortd> stdin i think envy is fetching me the wrong driver somehow is there a way i can fix it?
[08:20] <gustavo> there it is :P
[08:20] <stdin> abortd: envy should detect the correct driver for your card
[08:20] <genii> gustavo: Change all 1-1 to 1:1  etc
[08:20] <gustavo> lol... damn, didnt noticed that
[08:20] <abortd> i got the driver and all but then nvidia wanted to edit my xorg i let it and it killed my xorg
[08:21] <gustavo> genii: thanks, it may solve... i really don`t believe it`s 1-1 and not 1:1, my bad! thanks :)
[08:21] <genii> gustavo np
[08:21] <genii> gustavo You realize those netmasks will mean a lot of data collisions?
[08:22] <stdin> abortd: it has to edit the xorg.conf, you can always try the ubuntu packaged drivers
[08:22] <abortd> i do not know how to vsync it'
[08:22] <abortd> with the packaged ones
[08:22] <gustavo> genii: why?
[08:23] <kofler> I really hate rsync. I can't figure this out. See if someone here can help me out. I call rsync and here are the rules it displays as being added, and then the corresponding list of files it actually copies over. [client]  add_rule(+ /home/kofler/\..*) -> .file file
[08:23] <Eruantalon> Where can I find some overview of what libraries comes with g++ and how to use them. ?
[08:24] <gustavo> genii: im not routing anything, does it matter anyway?
[08:25] <genii> gustavo Well, because all the IPs are on the same physical adapter and the same net range. It is better normally to use ranges on a single physical adapter which are not in the same segment
[08:25] <kumamoto> intelikey: like that answer
[08:25] <gustavo> genii: well, theres no problem anyway... im using it just to learn to configure bind and apache :)
[08:26] <kumamoto> but seriously anyway if one wanted to use other than wine there isn't any other emulator that works wonders
[08:26] <genii> gustavo If you put the same ranges on the same physical adapter, use a netmask that limits the other IPs it can reach
[08:26] <stdin> kumamoto: Wine Is Not an Emulator
[08:27] <gustavo> genii: alright, next time i will use 255.255.255.254 :P
[08:27] <Eruantalon> Where can I find some overview of what libraries comes with g++ and how to use them. ?
[08:27] <genii> gustavo gustavo so instead of consecutive gateways you get more like x.x.x.1 x.x.x.16 x.x.x.32  and so on
[08:28] <genii> gustavo Well, as sort of indicated by my above post, the gateway IP need to be in their own space
[08:28] <kofler> Can someone help me with rsync?
[08:28] <kofler> It really makes no sense why it copies files that I don't tell it to copy.
[08:28] <gustavo> genii: i know, but actually i wont use it :P
[08:28] <ffffu> kofler: can u be more detail? :)
[08:29] <kofler> More so than what I said earlier?
[08:29] <gustavo> genii: i dnt even have to set it
[08:29] <genii> gustavo Well, it's your network :) But if you get intolerable lag don't yell at me LOL
[08:29] <kofler> I'll paste that back in here and see if you can work off that first.
[08:29] <abortd> anyone know how to set vsync?
[08:29] <kofler> I really hate rsync. I can't figure this out. See if someone here can help me out. I call rsync and here are the rules it displays as being added, and then the corresponding list of files it actually copies over. [client]  add_rule(+ /home/kofler/\..*) -> .file file
[08:29] <gustavo> lol
[08:29] <abortd> hm
[08:29] <gustavo> genii: its just for test, im not using it really
[08:30] <ffffu> hmm
[08:30] <genii> gustavo OK. If during testing you get a lot of lag or misrouted things lemme know and I'll help you sort out comprehensive ranges for each virtual IP
[08:30] <kofler> I even try an --exclude="/home/kofler/*" making it add_rule(- /home/kofler/*) but that still transfers file
[08:30] <intelikey> i thought i would test wine and an old  AoE 1  cd  and see if it would install...  short answer, no.    so i went to the winehq site and others say it installed no problem for them.   anyone in here ever try it ?    it's hung at where to install to    and won't budge...
[08:30] <kofler> I only want .file to transfer for example.
[08:30] <ffffu> kofler: what are u trying to do ? copying some files from one computer to another? or one directory to another
[08:30] <gustavo> genii: itsnt the same network i use... :P
[08:31] <kofler> rsync from one computer to another.
[08:31] <travlr> Can someone tell me what the name of the include path environment variable is?
[08:31] <ffffu> oh excude
[08:31] <kofler> I want all . files to transfer, but not normally named files like file
[08:31] <genii> gustavo Anyhow for testing 254 will be fine, they will be isolated from each other
[08:32] <genii> gustavo netmask 255.255.255.254 that is :)
[08:32] <gustavo> genii: yeah, but i will have to change the .2 to .5 and on and on
[08:32] <kofler> ffffu: ?
[08:32] <genii> gustavo :)
[08:33] <gustavo> genii: damn, i do ifup -a and the eth0 doesnt goes up, even that im not using it network card (disabled on bios)... strange, it used to goes up. :/
[08:34] <genii> gustavo Netmasks are not so hard.
[08:34] <ffffu> i think it should be --exclude "/home/kofler/*"
[08:35] <gustavo> genii: i know, im study computers networks, so its not a problem for me hehe
[08:35] <gustavo> *studying
[08:36] <kofler> ffffu: Well, the rule gets added, read the man page because your syntax is wrong.
[08:36] <travlr> Can someone tell me what the name of the include path environment variable is?
[08:36] <genii> gustavo Heh :) So now all eth1:X go up and eth0 does not?
[08:37] <gustavo> genii: lol... it cant get up, so the others doesnt too :P
[08:37] <intelikey> how rood.   -:- #winehq ##Dont-login-as-root  Forwarding to another channel
[08:37] <genii> intelikey: Prudent :)
[08:37] <gustavo> i will remove it...
[08:38] <kofler> ffffu: [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/*) proves that the syntax I used works. What doesn't make sense is why that doesn't prevent files like file from transferring.
[08:38] <intelikey> could say don't come in here as root.   but "Dont-login-as-root"    if i wanted to i would and there is nothing they could do to stop it....
[08:38] <animimotus> hi
[08:38] <genii> gustavo or just do ifup eth1
[08:39] <animimotus> please, someone use fail2ban?
[08:39] <intelikey> it's just rude
[08:39] <kraut> moin
[08:39] <stdin> intelikey: you can fake yout ident anyway
[08:39] <intelikey> like duh.   do you think i'm irc'ing as root all the time ?
[08:40] <gustavo> genii: i removed, now the virtual iface worked! NICE! :)
[08:40] <stdin> with you, maybe :p
[08:40] <intelikey> lol
[08:40] <genii> gustavo Good :)
[08:40] <intelikey> well thank you.... but no.
[08:40] <intelikey> but "if i ever do"  my ident wont change   :)
[08:41] <genii> gustavo Anyhow don't mean to keep on about the netmasks but after you get it setup nice you need to make each IP a netmask which must go thru the gateway IP to reach the other IP afterwards.
[08:42] <ffffu> kofler: my syntex works too. anyway, if u are trying to transfer /home/kofler/.* files, and u exclude /home/kofler/* then it won't transfer any files
[08:43] <kofler> Not .*
[08:43] <kofler> It's \..*
[08:43] <ffffu> \..* ??
[08:43] <kofler> And, using that exclude rule, it *still* copies over a bunch of files like file anyway.
[08:44] <kofler> So the exclude rule is clearly not working.
[08:44] <kofler> Yes, do you understand regular expressions?
[08:44] <ffffu> u shd probably type out what u typed in rsync
[08:44] <gustavo> genii: you mean i must used the netmask as gateway of each iface?
[08:44] <kofler> Type what out?
[08:44] <kofler> The entire command? Give me a second.
[08:44] <gustavo> genii: im not very good at english :D
[08:44] <intelikey> regex  \..*  =  anything preceded by dot
[08:45] <stdin> \..* = a dot, followed by any charactor repeated any number of times (including 0 times) :)
[08:45] <ffffu> \ = / ?
[08:46] <stdin> nope
[08:46] <intelikey> regex  \..  =  any single char preceeded by dot
[08:46] <kofler> stdin: Hmm, would you be able to help me out?
[08:46] <genii> gustavo If the virtual interface IP number is not forced to go through a gateway IP number to reach another virtual interface IP number it makes for a lot of traffic going directly from one virtual IP to another virtual IP bypassing the gateway and looping data
[08:47] <stdin> kofler: I've never used rsync, so probably not. I just know a little regexp
[08:47] <genii> gustavo That is why if you use virtual
[08:47] <ffffu> \.. = ../
[08:47] <kofler> Ah, darn.
[08:47] <genii> bah
[08:47] <gustavo> genii:i will just remove the gateway then
[08:47] <gustavo> :P
[08:47] <kofler> ffffu: What? That's not right in regular expressions.
[08:47] <intelikey> ffffu heh no.
[08:47] <genii> sigh
[08:47] <kofler> intelikey: Would you be able to? :)
[08:47] <stdin> ffffu: \ is an escape charactor, so \. means a litteral "."
[08:47] <genii> No, you need a gateway!
[08:47] <intelikey> what's that kofler ?
[08:48] <kofler> ffffu: It's fine, I need someone who knows a bit more about regular expressions. Thanks for your help anyway.
[08:48] <kofler> "I really hate rsync. I can't figure this out. See if someone here can help me out. I call rsync and here are the rules it displays as being added, and then the corresponding list of files it actually copies over. [client]  add_rule(+ /home/kofler/\..*) -> .file file" That was the "question"
[08:48] <genii> gustavo Traffic has to go someplace. Don't remove the gateways
[08:48] <kofler> I tried the exclude rule posted above, but that didn't work either.
[08:48] <stdin> kofler: you can get a app called "kregexpeditor" to help with regexp, shows it in a gui
[08:48] <stdin> !info kregexpeditor
[08:48] <ubotu> kregexpeditor: graphical regular expression editor plugin for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 278 kB, installed size 1080 kB
[08:49] <kofler> stdin: I know regular expressions and I have already tested it out.
[08:49] <kofler> stdin: According to fileformat.info's regex utility, my regular expression should work.
[08:49] <kofler> stdin: I think it's just a thing about how rsync works that I can't figure out.
[08:49] <intelikey> kofler what you are probably running into is the fact that    /home/name/../../  = /
[08:49] <genii> gustavo Unless you have some setup like where apache is running attached to an IP on the virtual interface for instance. then it's own IP is the endpoint for data
[08:50] <gustavo> genii: yes, it does... i dont need gateways :P
[08:50] <kofler> intelikey: I had exclude rules for that as well, but I got rid of them for simplicity. How would cause that problems though?
[08:51] <kofler> intelikey: /home/kofler/file is still being included. I only want /home/kofler/.file to transfer.
[08:51] <intelikey> kofler yes but     /home/name/./* = /home/name/*
[08:51] <gustavo> damn, i cant access any site lol
[08:51] <kofler> intelikey: If I have --exclude="/home/kofler/\." would that work?
[08:51] <intelikey> you want something like  /home/name/\.[A-z] .*
[08:52] <stdin> intelikey: unless you're in feisty :p
[08:52] <gustavo> its my bind... damn... :D
[08:52] <intelikey> that will allow /home/name/.?*       ls /home/name/.?*    and see if you like.
[08:52] <genii> gustavo If that is the type of setup you have, then it is safe to remove the gateway entries. But the IPs will still be able to directly route traffic to one another. So you remove the broadcast as well. then just have something like x.x.x.1 mask 255.255.255.255
[08:53] <gustavo> genii: yes, the same to network, right?
[08:53] <intelikey> stdin yes unless you're using feisty.  which is retarded.   use [a-Z]  in feisty
[08:53] <genii> gustavo If all IPs are endpoints put netmask 255.255.255.255 on all of them
[08:53] <pointwood> heh, I just updated my feisty beta with adept and after doing that, it says "A new version of Kubuntu is available, click next if you wish to upgrade now" - the only option is "Quit" :)
[08:54] <stdin> intelikey: ls ~/.?* includes ~/..
[08:54] <intelikey> in feisty ?
[08:54] <kofler> intelikey: Well, I just want all . directories and files and nothing else.
[08:55] <kofler> intelikey: Here are the rules I've got: [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/\.) [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/\.\.) [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/.*) [client]  add_rule(+ /home/kofler/\..*)
[08:55] <genii> gustavo: I realise all this compartmentalizing is very tedious. But it is proper.
[08:55] <stdin> intelikey: well that's what I'm running, and "ls ~/.?/" shows the dirs in /user too
[08:55] <intelikey> kofler yes try  ls ~/.[A-z] *
[08:55] <loom> hello people
[08:56] <loom> has anyone meet a problem related to keyboard switching
[08:56] <gustavo> genii: hehehe np about that, i like to learn
[08:56] <gustavo> :D
[08:56] <kofler> But what if a directory starts with a number or a symbol?
[08:56] <loom> I'm using Kubuntu, and for some reason I cannot switch keys with the keyboard, only by clicking mouse
[08:56] <genii> gustavo :)
[08:56] <intelikey> stdin yeah i guess bash does treet ?  as regex .
[08:57] <kofler> intelikey: It's easier to specify * because I really have no idea what could result in that directory.
[08:57] <animimotus> sudo erf
[08:57] <animimotus> $ sudo echo "" >/var/log/fail2ban.log
[08:57] <animimotus> bash: /var/log/fail2ban.log: Permission non accorde
[08:57] <gustavo> genii: lol, i did shit... you know how can i discover the eth0 mac?
[08:57] <stdin> intelikey: in bash ls ~/.[A-z] * works properly, i.e. shows .Xauthority, hmm
[08:58] <intelikey> kofler what ever.     ~/.[A-z] *   will only match  files and dirs in your home that start with dot
[08:58] <kofler> intelikey: No I mean it dosen't match .9z for example
[08:58] <intelikey> stdin yes but not feisty right ?
[08:58] <animimotus> I want to purge my fail2ban log, cause it plain of error (a wrong path I declared)
[08:58] <genii> gustavo As an example. You have an IP that is only supposed to end at apache. but some idiot puts in the IP number as his gateway. If it can get to sensitive IP numbers in your box you are in trouble. If it can only see what it needs to (preferably ONLY itself if apache dedicated for instance) less probs
[08:58] <stdin> intelikey: no, in feisty
[08:59] <genii> gustavo Just do:  ifconfig   to see the mac
[08:59] <intelikey> kofler oh ummm     ~/.[A-z,0-9] *
[08:59] <gustavo> itsnt in use, so doesnt show anything on ifconfig :P
[08:59] <kofler> intelikey: Like I said, symbols, et al.
[09:00] <genii> gustavo You can force it up if the hardware recognised by specifically:  ifup eth0
[09:00] <intelikey> stdin did you change something ?
[09:00] <kofler> intelikey: There are a ton of cases and it gets to the point where * should in theory work if I exclude . and .. from the list.
[09:00] <gustavo> genii: im using 10 virtual hosts on apache... not only one :P
[09:00] <gustavo> genii: even if its disable on bios?
[09:01] <genii> gustavo If linux saw the hardware when it booted even the bios cannot keep ifup  from starting the interface
[09:01] <stdin> intelikey: nope, just in bash "ls ~/.[A-z] *" shows .Xauthority
[09:01] <gustavo> genii: oh, i got it, my problem isnt with eth0, i just have to restart bind because of resolv.conf, i think
[09:01] <intelikey> stdin it shows other things .bash_history  ?
[09:01] <animimotus> someone ?
[09:02] <stdin> intelikey: yeah,
[09:02] <kofler> intelikey: What do you think I should do in such a case?
[09:02] <gustavo> or not :/
[09:02] <intelikey> wasn't you and i that were discussing the backward [a-Z]  the other day ?
[09:02] <genii> gustavo If you have in apache2.conf something like:  Listen x.x.x.0/<netmask>:80    then each IP can just have an IP and netmask of 255.255.255.255
[09:02] <stdin> intelikey: just looked tho, "ls ~/.[a-z] *" shoes .Xauthority too, so it seems bash isn't case sencitive in this case
[09:02] <jager> ok so i have flash 9 installed from the tgz from adobe.com
[09:03] <jager> i get video fine but never any audio
[09:03] <gustavo> genii: yeah, but im only using virtual hosts, none listen :P
[09:03] <jager> i'd love to fix this, if anyone can give me a pointer
[09:03] <genii> gustavo For ranges oddball like 10 and not 8 16 etc best to put each IP on a separate line in there
[09:03] <jager> it's been bugging me for a long time
[09:03] <intelikey> kofler get the dir  $HOME  you get it all and nothing else.
[09:04] <intelikey> stdin maybe ls is case insensitive ?
[09:04] <kofler> intelikey: I don't want everything in $HOME though... just the . files and directories like .irssi
[09:04] <genii> gustavo Pls remember that hardware virtual IP numbers are not virtual hosts in apache. They are completely different things
[09:04] <gustavo> genii: i cant acess any ip on net... why that?
[09:05] <stdin> intelikey: the ls in bash anyway
[09:05] <gustavo> genii: hehehe... well... i dont know much, all i know is that its working... :P
[09:05] <intelikey> kofler i gave you a string that would do that but you kept changing the criteria on me.    ~/.[A-z,0-9] *    but then you added  "symbols"
[09:05] <intelikey> stdin ls is built in there ?
[09:05] <genii> gustavo you can't access any ip on the network from WHERE ?
[09:05] <gustavo> genii: im newbie on this, by now :D
[09:06] <intelikey> stdin do   help ls
[09:06] <kofler> intelikey: No I never changed criteria. I just gave you a crappy example to begin with. But my rules never changed. I always wanted to match that which * should solve.
[09:06] <kofler> intelikey: file was just an example.
[09:06] <stdin> intelikey: no help on ls
[09:06] <gustavo> genii: my machine, i cant access nothing more... strange... when i change resolv.conf do i have to restart any thing?
[09:06] <genii> gustavo You are doing OK :) You need to sometimes have patience however and read the documentation thoroughly. It is tedious but needed
[09:06] <intelikey> kofler * wont match ~/.bash_history
[09:06] <kofler> intelikey: It does.
[09:07] <genii> gustavo No, resolv.conf changes are immediate
[09:07] <intelikey> stdin then it's not built-in
[09:07] <gustavo> genii: well... its so strange then...
[09:07] <intelikey> kofler doesn't here.
[09:07] <stdin> intelikey: in sh (dash) "ls ~/.[a-z] *|less" doesn't show .Xauthority
[09:07] <kofler> intelikey: Sure you got the rules I mentioned?
[09:07] <kofler> intelikey: Because I just tried it again and it works.
[09:08] <kofler> intelikey: I didn't say * generically either, I had specific rules.
[09:08] <gustavo> lol, maybe i got the ip of my gateway router on some virtual iface
[09:08] <gustavo> :D
[09:08] <intelikey> stdin yeah bash is going to the dogs these days
[09:08] <genii> gustavo Heh :) Well if you want some help with it you know how to get to the pastebin now ROFL
[09:08] <kofler> intelikey: Here are the rules I've got: [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/\.) [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/\.\.) [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/.*) [client]  add_rule(+ /home/kofler/\..*)
[09:08] <genii> gustavo This is one of the reasons I was (sort of) lecturing you earlier BTW
[09:09] <kofler> With rsync .* is functionally equivalent with * (though it looks incomplete to me to use * over .*, but that's not very important)
[09:09] <intelikey> add_rule(- /home/kofler/\.\.) <<<< what's that one for ?
[09:09] <intelikey> :)
[09:09] <gustavo> genii: yes, i correct it... lol :D
[09:09] <kofler> intelikey: To deny .. ?
[09:09] <gustavo> *corrected
[09:09] <kofler> intelikey: If I did /home/kofler/.. then all two letter files / directories would be excluded incorrectly.
[09:11] <kofler> intelikey: By the way, I really appreciate the help. I've asked around on IRC and have been fiddling with it for about a day or so to no avail.
[09:11] <nonuda_> how to setup internet connection sharing
[09:11] <genii> gustavo If you think 10 IPs are hard to understand you should think about 1024 addresses spread out over many different ranges and gateways running on only a few network adapters.
[09:11] <stdin> nonuda_: use Guarddog or Firestarter, easiest ways (I haven't used Guarddog, but I know Firestarter lets you do it)
[09:12] <gustavo> genii: lol, you are right... btw, i would be trainning my network skills... and i have to :D
[09:12] <stdin> nonuda_: and it's called a NAT router in the non-windows world, not ICS
[09:12] <intelikey> kofler may i ask how many inodes you have with .<any_symbol_here>names  ?
[09:13] <intelikey> it's not that you can't have.  just wondering if you do have....
[09:13] <gustavo> genii: but, i didnt get one thing... what should be the gateway ip address? 255.255.255.254? or i misunderstood it? :P
[09:13] <kofler> intelikey: It's not likely, I agree, but it can happen. I'm setting this up for a much larger network where I don't have total control over everything. Anything goes and to expect anything less is completely wrong.
[09:14] <nonuda_> stdin, i have follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing, but i have trouble on setting up client box
[09:14] <stdin> nonuda_: what OS is the client ?
[09:14] <intelikey> ok so the address in your rules is still "only a bad example"  ?
[09:14] <nonuda_> xubuntu
[09:14] <intelikey> kofler ^ ?
[09:14] <kofler> intelikey: ?
[09:15] <genii> gustavo If you are running apache2 on an IP from eth1:X then no gateway at all. The netmask however should always be 255.255.255.255 for any adapter that does not need to forward data
[09:15] <intelikey> kofler or are they all going ho be     /home/kofler/   ?
[09:15] <crazyrobot> 255.255.255.254?  usually on small networks, you want it to be something like 255.255.255.0 or .128, or something like that.
[09:15] <kofler> intelikey: Are you trying to whitelist a certain amount... ?
[09:15] <stdin> nonuda_: how's it connected to the network? direct connection between 2 PCs?
[09:15] <nonuda_> no using switch
[09:15] <crazyrobot> it can be anything you want really.  as long as all the other computers on that particular network have the same one.
[09:15] <nonuda_> btw, i can ping xubuntu box through this kubuntu
[09:15] <intelikey> just asking.    cause the "criteria" is still changing on me.....
[09:16] <kofler> intelikey: That's not going to work. Ideally, including \..* and excluding would work out better because hopefully I can get what is not required for the transfer.
[09:16] <wolferine> anyone good with mysql?
[09:16] <kofler> intelikey: No, it never changed. You assumed file was the only criterion.
[09:16] <stdin> nonuda_: can xubuntu ping kubuntu ?
[09:16] <kofler> intelikey: Read back, I've stressed this a few times now.
[09:16] <genii> gustavo If you are for instance trying to ssh in on one of these numbers, put the gateway on it to the IP of the computer
[09:16] <nonuda_> yup
[09:16] <intelikey> kofler no i assumed your example was what you wanted.
[09:16] <wolferine> nonuda_, was that for me?
[09:16] <kofler> intelikey: You still don't seem to get that I don't want a whitelist that breaks when someone else puts Unicode or something else in their file name.
[09:16] <intelikey> my mistake.
[09:16] <stdin> nonuda_: so what have you done in the setup so far?
[09:17] <kofler> intelikey: Whatever, you know what i mean. I've stressed over and over that I have those rules defined. I want to fix them. Not rewrite them completely in whitelist form.
[09:17] <kofler> intelikey: Here are the rules I've got: [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/\.) [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/\.\.) [client]  add_rule(- /home/kofler/.*) [client]  add_rule(+ /home/kofler/\..*) in case you forgot
[09:18] <gustavo> genii: i will try it 255.255.255.255 then :P
[09:18] <kofler> .........
[09:18] <kofler> It's not it's a test case.
[09:18] <wolferine> when will ppl realize that IRC is a resource for information, just like anything else?
[09:18] <nonuda_> ok..the setup in the kubuntu according to the guide seems works fine (i git no error), but in xubuntu when i try to sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.90 it give error, it said "devices not found"
[09:19] <nonuda_> kubuntu IP is 192.168.0.90 and xubuntu IP is 192.168.0.91
[09:19] <kofler> intelikey: If I gave you the full script, it'd take *much* longer for you to parse. Don't you agree that giving you a very specific problem to solve is easier than a generic problem?
[09:19] <sstchur> why does konqueror seem to load pages significantly slower than Firefox?
[09:20] <kofler> sstchur: Could be that you have proxy settings in place for Konqueror and not for Firefox.
[09:20] <stdin> nonuda_: try " sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.90 dev eth0" (if eth0 is the interface that connects the two PCs)
[09:21] <nonuda_> ok try it now
[09:21] <intelikey> kofler so from now on.  (and i'm about to send you to a place where you can get the answers you want)   first of all  lay all your cards on the table to start with.   i.e.  tell them you are doing this for a large server multi-user possably mult-platform system  and exactly what you want it to do...  don't give bad examples.
[09:21] <sstchur> kofler: I have it set as "Direct connection" for both browsers
[09:21] <intelikey> kofler go ask in  #bash   they can answer.
[09:21] <crazyrobot> find out the gateway on xubuntu "ifconfig"
[09:21] <crazyrobot> then match it with kubuntu
[09:22] <genii> intelikey Conciseness is a rare trait
[09:22] <stdin> sstchur: try disableing IPv6, that's normally the problem
[09:22] <teb> i just installed kubuntu-desktop from aptitude on gnome, is there anything that i'm going to be missing?
[09:22] <stdin> !ipv6 | sstchur
[09:22] <ubotu> sstchur: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[09:22] <intelikey> genii yes.
[09:22] <nonuda_> stdin, "device not found" i have tried eth0, eth1 and eth2
[09:23] <sstchur> stdin: ok, thanks
[09:23] <gustavo> genii: i would really appreciate that, but its 4:30am here, if i drink it i wont sleep, lol!
[09:24] <gustavo> genii: thanks anyway :) :D
[09:24] <genii> gustavo Same time here and I'm brewing a new pot :)
[09:24] <stdin> nonuda_: what interface connects the two PCs?
[09:24] <gustavo> lol... i would love to do the same :P
[09:24] <genii> gustavo I'll offer you something caffeine-free next time ROFL
[09:24] <gustavo> lol :D
[09:25] <gustavo> im narcoleptic
[09:25] <nonuda_> hub switch
[09:25] <gustavo> :X
[09:25] <genii> gustavo If you need another time network help I am here often
[09:25] <stdin> nonuda_: no, the interface, not device.
[09:25] <kofler> intelikey: They said rsync != bash (obviously). Anywhere else...?
[09:25] <stdin> nonuda_: which interface (in xubuntu) is connected to the switch
[09:26] <nonuda_> don't know the interface in xubuntu or kubuntu, how do i know it?
[09:27] <intelikey> kofler  ##linux   but don't expect too much.
[09:27] <kofler> intelikey: I asked there before here.
[09:27] <intelikey> yeah
[09:27] <genii> kofler: rsync is more usefuland powerful than you may think at first
[09:27] <kofler> genii: I'm not underestimating it.
[09:28] <gustavo> genii: lol, i will use it then :D
[09:28] <stdin> nonuda_: can you post what "ifconfig" shows from the xubuntu box
[09:28] <kofler> genii: I know something is wrong with the ruleset. How would I fix it to work properly is what I've been asking.
[09:28] <intelikey> well i'd advise  #bash  but looks like you blew that with they way you presented the issue.   it's a script.   it's not rsync    rsync is just what the script is calling.....
[09:29] <genii> kofler I'll scroll up and study
[09:29] <intelikey> i mean.  if a fellow can get help on a bash script in #bash where can he ?
[09:29] <kofler> intelikey: I explained that.
[09:31] <zhan> hello~ , i have a problem with my keyboard layout int tty.
[09:31] <nonuda_> stdin, i can't post it, but it said something like "eth0  link encap:ethernet HWaddr ....bla..bla... inet addr:192.168.0.91 Bcast:192.168.0.255......."
[09:32] <zhan> i have installed kubuntu, but i chose the wrong keyboard layout ,and now ,in kde ,it is ok, but in tty, the keyboard is mad
[09:32] <crazyrobot> nonuda_: what did the subnet say?
[09:32] <stdin> nonuda_: looks like eth0 is the one then
[09:33] <stdin> zhan: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup"
[09:33] <zhan> stdin: ok, i'll try it
[09:33] <intelikey> kofler if you could limit inode names to . plus at least two chars    ~/.??*
[09:34] <intelikey> that would omit  . and .. and .?
[09:34] <kofler> Hmm, I'll try that.
[09:34] <nonuda_> stdin, can't find "subnet", yes eth0 is the one
[09:34] <intelikey> .c .2 .\&   wont match  you know.
[09:35] <genii> kofler If I understand, you are trying to exclude .. and . (contents) from being copied ?
[09:35] <intelikey> that's the best i can do with just simple regex
[09:35] <genii> But yet for instance copy the dotfiles there
[09:36] <genii> Without it recursing and copying other stuff etc
[09:36] <intelikey> genii yes copy content that is .*   but not . ..
[09:36] <kofler> intelikey: Didn't work.
[09:36] <wolferine> someone good with mysql, I am trying to do this: SET PASSWORD FOR 'root'@'localhost' = PASSWORD('MyNewPassword');, but I get * Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables. when I restart the service
[09:36] <intelikey> kofler le me see the script
[09:36] <uselessidbr> how do i change my password on nickserver?
[09:36] <intelikey> let
[09:37] <uselessidbr> oh, i remember
[09:37] <uselessidbr> sorry
[09:37] <intelikey> kofler dcc ?
[09:37] <uselessidbr> :)
[09:37] <genii> kofler Seems to me instead of trying to even do it from there, need just a rsync export which is only ~/ so the client cannot recurse
[09:38] <stdin> nonuda_: maybe "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" then "sudo ifconfig 192.168.0.91 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255", then "sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.90 dev eth0"
[09:38] <intelikey> genii yeah i mentioned that, seems that  * is not acceptable  only .*
[09:38] <nonuda_> ok..
[09:38] <kofler> intelikey: It's from a Perl script, so ignore the funking formatting. Ignore the SSH options as well, they work.
[09:38] <kofler> "/usr/bin/rsync -vvv --delete --exclude='" . HOME . "/*' --include='" . HOME . "/\\.??*' --include='" . HOME . "/Desktop' -aEHlpqze \"/usr/bin/ssh -o 'GSSAPIAuthentication yes' -o 'GSSAPIDelegateCredentials yes' -o 'HashKnownHosts no' -o 'HostbasedAuthentication no' -o 'PasswordAuthentication no' -o 'RhostsRSAAuthentication no' -o 'RSAAuthentication no' -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking no' -p 10000 -q\" " . HOME . "/ " . TARGET . '/'
[09:40] <genii> intelikey You can still do .* that way. I do it myself
[09:40] <genii> intelikey the thing is not to login from the client with a username that can be allowed to recurse
[09:41] <intelikey> genii k.  tell kofler how.
[09:42] <zhan> stdin: thank you! it works
[09:43] <brzeszczot> i am looking for a file manager for ubuntu
[09:43] <intelikey> brzeszczot ever try gentoo ?
[09:43] <genii> intelikey Unless you do it over a plip connection you'll get no respect anyways ;)
[09:43] <intelikey> it's pretty good.
[09:43] <intelikey> genii heh :)
[09:44] <intelikey> brzeszczot but it's ugly as i am.
[09:45] <brzeszczot> i need sftp, zip, rar, - something like total commander under windowzzz\
[09:45] <nonuda_> stdin, sudo ifconfig 192.168.0.91 netmask...give me "SIOCSI FNETMASK: no such device and SIOCSI FBRADDR:no such device"
[09:45] <genii> kofler Do you use some generic login for rsync client to connect?
[09:45] <intelikey> brzeszczot ever try gentoo ?
[09:45] <stdin> nonuda_: opps, add "eth0" beofre "192.168.0.91"
[09:47] <brzeszczot> ok i try
[09:47] <uselessidbr> nonuda: sudo ifconfig eth0 ip inet netmask ip_netmask
[09:48] <kofler> genii: Yes, for the script.
[09:50] <genii> kofler I had a similar issue previously when I would copy .* it recursed. The login username had admin privelege etc. So I created a dedicated login name and made it into the group of the person that i wanted do the copy ~/.* of but not recurse. the user themself had admin privelege and so logging in as them would just produce the same problem repeatedly.
[09:50] <uselessidbr> its so quiet
[09:50] <berg> hello folks
[09:51] <uselessidbr> hello there
[09:51] <kofler> genii: That's not going to work out.
[09:51] <uselessidbr> APCI is related to energy?
[09:51] <kofler> genii: There has to be a better way than that, because that's just a downright hack.
[09:52] <berg> was wondering how to make visual basic run on ubuntu I think i have 6.6
[09:52] <genii> kofler LOL Do you always need to be difficult?
[09:52] <kofler> genii: LOL WTF?
[09:52] <kofler> genii: That's not difficult at all. It doesn't make sense adding hacks into production systems.
[09:54] <genii> kofler: If you're aiming for 1 generic login that will work for all cases you'll soon realise it just won't work. Best to develop a workable coherent strategy.
[09:54] <berg> if he is shoot him
[09:55] <intelikey> ooops.....
[09:55] <berg> was that a silly question i asked?
[09:56] <nonuda__> stdin, done...no error found :)
[09:56] <kofler> genii: This is a really simple setup. All I need is to copy . files over to another computer via rsync. Is that so hard or complicated? I think not.
[09:56] <intelikey> berg if so dont worry about it.   we all do that from time to time.
[09:56] <ffffu> lol......
[09:56] <stdin> nonuda__: the route command too?
[09:56] <mackyman> berg: I'm no code guru. But I think it wont work to well for developing ubuntu apps... It uses the m$ api if I'm not wrong
[09:56] <nonuda__> yup
[09:56] <ffffu> !ati
[09:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:57] <nonuda__> but i can't open any website
[09:57] <berg> im trying to run Mushclient its running
[09:57] <stdin> nonuda__: so, from the xubuntu box, try "ping -c
[09:57] <stdin> opps
[09:57] <stdin> nonuda__: so, from the xubuntu box, try "ping -c3 72.14.207.99"
[09:58] <kofler> intelikey: The thing is my regex worked before. I have a nagging feeling rsync is just downright ignoring the rules.
[09:58] <mackyman> berg: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=130 that's how well visual basic works with linux
[09:59] <intelikey> #!/bin/sh
[09:59] <intelikey> FILES="`ls -d ~/.??*`"
[09:59] <intelikey> rsync blah@blah:"$FILES" blah
[09:59] <genii> kofler There is more than workable strategy for implementing. If you only issue on the machine which holds the files a rsync directive on a cronjob in which it copies local files to the remote one you wouldn't have to try and write some convoluted rules to try and engineer it all to be controlled fromsome remote system initiating it all.
[09:59] <nonuda__> stdin, 100% packet loss
[09:59] <uselessidbr> kofler: whats wrong?
[09:59] <kofler> genii: But now you're limiting how many files you have.
[10:00] <stdin> nonuda__: hmm, dose http://72.14.207.99/ work?
[10:00] <kofler> genii: That's an ugly solution. I don't know why you're making one rsync command sound so complicated.
[10:00] <kofler> intelikey: I'll try that.
[10:02] <kofler> intelikey: I think that just might work out after all :)
[10:03] <nonuda__> stdin, not work either
[10:04] <intelikey> lol
[10:05] <Frost^> Hello.
[10:05] <intelikey> Frost^
[10:06] <Frost^> Can anyone tell me how can I force an fsck on boot please?
[10:06] <berg> *sipd coffee
[10:07] <intelikey> Frost^ sudo tune2fs -C 99 /dev/hda1  (where hda1 is the correct partition)
[10:07] <Frost^> Will that do it all the time or only for the next boot?
[10:08] <intelikey> only the next reboot
[10:08] <intelikey> if you want every boot   sudo tune2fs -c 1 /dev/hda1
[10:08] <Frost^> Hmm, the manpage says it's for ext2/3 partitions. Is there something similar for reiserfs?
[10:08] <intelikey> oh reiserfs .....
[10:09] <intelikey> you need to specify non-default
[10:09] <intelikey> let me look
[10:09] <Frost^> Thank you.
[10:09] <intelikey>  reiserfstune
[10:09] <stdin> I think "sudo shutdown -rF now" should do it, only tried it with ext3 tho
[10:10] <nonuda__> stdin, anymore idea?
[10:11] <stdin> nonuda__: I don't know why it's not working, but I gave to get going to work. (for my 11 hour shift)
[10:11] <intelikey> Frost^ i don't see anything in  reiserfstune  that would do that though
[10:11] <Frost^> Yeah, was just about to say that..
[10:11] <Frost^> Hmm
[10:11] <stdin> Frost^: give "sudo shutdown -rF now" a go, it may work (may not tho)
[10:11] <nonuda__> ahh..ok then...thanks
[10:12] <Frost^> Well, I'll try it. I hope I'll get some output
[10:12] <intelikey> Frost^   you can do a forced check and then reboot.    sudo mount -o remount,ro / ;sudo fsck -f /dev/hda1        again assuming hda1
[10:12] <genii> stdin have fun at work :)
[10:13] <Frost^> intelikey: Tried that already, but it tells me / is busy so it can't remount it
[10:13] <intelikey> should  sudo killall5   before running that ^
[10:13] <genii> Ah, left already
[10:13] <uselessidbr> how do i know if im running nvidia driver or not?
[10:13] <intelikey> Frost^ are you doing these things from a gui ?
[10:13] <intelikey> very very bad idea.
[10:14] <Frost^> Yeah, I figured.
[10:14] <uselessidbr> does anyone here uses a router simulator?
[10:14] <Frost^> I'll just write it all down and then shut down X
[10:15] <uselessidbr> !boson
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boson - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:16] <intelikey> uselessidbr grep nvidia /etc/X11/xorg.conf   &  ! i
[10:16] <Frost^> Ok, wish me luck :)
[10:17] <intelikey> !info boson
[10:17] <ubotu> boson: an OpenGL wargame for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11-4 (edgy), package size 5 kB, installed size 56 kB (Only available for alpha arm armeb i386 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc ia64 hppa s390 sh3 sh4 sh3eb sh4eb freebsd-i386)
[10:17] <uselessidbr> intelikey: thanks
[10:17] <uselessidbr> hehe
[10:18] <uselessidbr> so itsnt what i am looking for :D
[10:18] <genii> uselessidbr: Do you have some copy of a cisco IOS?
[10:18] <intelikey> contracted that didn't ya
[10:18] <uselessidbr> genii: no... but i can get it :D
[10:19] <uselessidbr> genii: why? :)
[10:19] <genii> uselessidbr:  http://www.ipflow.utc.fr/index.php/Cisco_7200_Simulator
[10:19] <uselessidbr> i want boson, but u$500 is an absurd
[10:20] <ffffu> how do u kick a user inside your system where u see him with "w" command ?
[10:20] <intelikey> kick a user ?
[10:21] <uselessidbr> kill?
[10:21] <intelikey> yeah you mean kill the shell ?
[10:21] <uselessidbr> i think he means kill :P
[10:21] <genii> I think he means kill too :)
[10:21] <ffffu> i press w and found another root log in from the same location..
[10:21] <genii> Just kill the tty or terminal name
[10:21] <ffffu> must be hang
[10:21] <ffffu> ic k will try
[10:22] <genii> "from the same location"  hmmmm
[10:22] <uselessidbr> is it kill pid?
[10:22] <ffffu> root     pts/1    bb121-7-100-149. 14:31    1:51m  0.07s  0.07s  -bash
[10:22] <ffffu> yeah kind of..my terminal hang or something
[10:22] <ffffu> when i log in the system i saw double of that
[10:23] <ffffu> root pts/0
[10:23] <Photon> do i have to update the kernel manually or is it automatically through adept?
[10:23] <genii> Photon  automagically
[10:23] <Photon> throught adept?
[10:23] <genii> (unfortunately)
[10:23] <Photon> through*
[10:23] <Photon> ok
[10:24] <genii> Though there may some setting in there not to do it
[10:24] <uselessidbr> you can do it mannualy
[10:24] <Photon> i kno uselessidbr
[10:24] <intelikey> sudo killall bash    :)
[10:25] <intelikey> sudo killall5     is better tho
[10:25] <genii> intelikey: Yes, but won't that also kill the current session he uses? LOL
[10:26] <intelikey> yes
[10:26] <intelikey> and the network connection and the gui
[10:26] <intelikey> oh wait no
[10:26] <genii> no just the shells
[10:26] <intelikey> it wont kill current shell   everything else
[10:27] <intelikey> killall5    from a console will kill everything but the shell you are in.
[10:27] <genii> Weird. Is google hung? I can't get in
[10:28] <ffffu> no
[10:28] <genii> The connection was reset
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <ffffu> i have to do a kill -9
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <intelikey> genii you killall5 'd  it
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <genii> 
[10:28] <genii> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
[10:28] <genii> Oooooops sorry
[10:28] <genii> Didn't think the copy would grab the whitespaces :)
[10:29] <kofler> Yes! I got exactly what I wanted. rsync -azvv ~/test/\.??* --exclude="~/test/** user@remoteserver:test/ grabs just what I want.
[10:29] <kofler> Anyway, hope that helps someone else out. :)
[10:29] <intelikey> i do that a lot.  if there is only  \n  you are fine in bx  but if  space \n    look out.
[10:30] <kofler> Thanks for all the suggestions. I was going to go with what intelikey was suggesting, but I'm hardheaded :)
[10:30] <intelikey> yes
[10:31] <Frost^> intelikey: Thank you, it worked.
[10:31] <abortd> how do i open xorg with terminal my brain is not working right now i did it early but cant now
[10:31] <intelikey> welcome.
[10:32] <intelikey> up-arrow
[10:32] <zak> i want to just record and do basic editing [moving around and deleting parts]  of audio files... what apps should i look at?
[10:32] <genii> uselessidbr:  Another http://www.ipflow.utc.fr/blog/
[10:32] <intelikey> abortd use the command history.    up-arrow
[10:33] <uselessidbr> genii: oh, this one seems better :D
[10:33] <abortd> it was on the live cd i cant
[10:33] <genii> uselessidbr: I've found more :)
[10:33] <uselessidbr> genii: but they still so limited... dont have 2500 and switches, and more... :/
[10:34] <intelikey> Frost^ you did reboot imedately after the check didn't you ?
[10:34] <zak> abortd: "startx"? that's what i used a few years ago on freebsd, but the situation now/here might be different
[10:34] <uselessidbr> im searching for a crack for boson (windows) :D
[10:34] <Frost^> intelikey: Sure.
[10:34] <abortd> i need to open he xorg.conf
[10:34] <genii> !piracy
[10:34] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[10:34] <uselessidbr> lol
[10:34] <intelikey> k just checking.   some have a tendancy to want to just remount....
[10:35] <uselessidbr> genii: im not askin for it :P
[10:35] <intelikey> uselessidbr what is boson in windows ?
[10:35] <Frost^> Hehe, not to worry.
[10:35] <genii> intelikey: A cisco simulator
[10:35] <uselessidbr> a software that emulates routers/switches/hosts
[10:36] <intelikey> oh ok.  yeah i forgot what you were working on....
[10:36] <uselessidbr> the best one but it costs U$500 lol
[10:37] <uselessidbr> it has CCNP support, really nice
[10:37] <intelikey> i'm aporaching that age where i can forget more than "you" know....     har har har....
[10:38] <genii> uselessidbr: Is Cisco's eSim supposed to be free?
[10:38] <uselessidbr> genii: yeah, but it sucks :D
[10:38] <tarelerulz_> How do you get Kubuntu to go into cosole?
[10:38] <genii> What is it tonight? Everyone's getting picky or something
[10:38] <uselessidbr> genii: theres a lot of features that i doesnt supports
[10:39] <genii> uselessidbr: I'll keep looking ;)
[10:39] <intelikey> uselessidbr can linux not do what you are wanting to do ?    i thought linux boxes made good routers
[10:39] <uselessidbr> tarelerulz_:  application -> accessories -> terminal
[10:39] <tarelerulz_> I don't meant that
[10:40] <intelikey> tarelerulz_  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[10:40] <uselessidbr> intelikey: its for learning porpuses, i class cisco
[10:40] <tarelerulz_> Thanks
[10:40] <intelikey> oh school work.
[10:40] <intelikey> k
[10:40] <uselessidbr> lol, i got it wrong... :)
[10:41] <tarelerulz_> Do you know of any good how-to about setting up twm session
[10:41] <intelikey> you mean special configs tarelerulz_ ?
[10:41] <intelikey> or just howto make startx load twm  ?
[10:42] <uselessidbr> intelikey: not school work, but practicing :P
[10:42] <tarelerulz_> I want something like Kde, other and the twm for sesion option in kdm
[10:42] <tarelerulz_> I have try to find that
[10:43] <tarelerulz_> No clear way
[10:43] <intelikey> tarelerulz_ sudo apt-get install twm
[10:43] <tarelerulz_> tells me how xorg works ,but nothing on how to set up sesions
[10:43] <intelikey> tarelerulz_ just installing it should setup kdm to list it in the sessions section
[10:44] <intelikey> tarelerulz_ and may i sujest  blackbox  fluxbox
[10:45] <tarelerulz_> I like twm basic so I can still do gui stuff ,but bone up on my command line
[10:45] <tarelerulz_> I want to say when I did the adept install of twm it did install it ,but with no option for starting xterms
[10:46] <tarelerulz_> once before
[10:46] <tarelerulz_> off to try it
[10:46] <tarelerulz_> thanks guys
[10:46] <intelikey> tarelerulz_ is xterm installed ?
[10:46] <intelikey> too late
[10:47] <uselessidbr> lol
[10:48] <uselessidbr> does anyone knows if its possible to run x-fi soundcards on linux?
[10:49] <Admiral_Chicago> uselessidbr: Creative is the maker right?
[10:49] <uselessidbr> yes
[10:49] <uselessidbr> they dont have a driver :/
[10:49] <ffffu> is fiesty default in gnome?
[10:50] <intelikey> ffffu all "ubuntu" is default to gnome
[10:50] <intelikey> ffffu all "kubuntu" defaults to kde
[10:50] <uselessidbr> yeah, kubuntu that isnt :D
[10:50] <intelikey> ffffu all "xubuntu" defaults to xfce ....
[10:51] <uselessidbr> btw, im insane... i installed kubuntu and remove kdm, then installed gnome, lol
[10:51] <Admiral_Chicago> uselessidbr: afaik, they were releasing one "early 2007"
[10:51] <uselessidbr> Admiral_Chicago: guess i will wait forever :P
[10:51] <intelikey> uselessidbr no.  i remove kdm too   it writes in  /root when users login.
[10:52] <uselessidbr> intelikey: do u use gnome?
[10:52] <intelikey> i don't use a gui much at all.   but yes  gnome kde blackbox    the last more than the first.
[10:52] <uselessidbr> nice :)
[10:53] <uselessidbr> if i install fluxbox i can just choose what session to use when i start system?
[10:53] <uselessidbr> right?1
[10:53] <uselessidbr> right?!
[10:53] <intelikey> Mem usage: 33/249 MB (13%)  <<< no swap.  blackbox is running installing AoE-1 in wine as we speak.
[10:54] <intelikey> uselessidbr yes
[10:54] <uselessidbr> lol :P
[10:54] <uselessidbr> i want wine so i can get files for windows without worrying about virus and spywares
[10:54] <intelikey> wine can get sick too....
[10:55] <intelikey> just doesn't affect the system.
[10:55] <uselessidbr> lol, but itsnt a problem :P
[10:55] <genii> uselessidbr: BTW maybe take a look at http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-1035-6163569.html   about the future of routers :)
[10:56] <uselessidbr> genii: lol... nice! it means a cisco certification will be nothing, lol
[10:56] <genii> uselessidbr: Well, eventually :)
[10:57] <uselessidbr> what a waste of time :(
[10:57] <uselessidbr> :P
[10:57] <halo_> guys I've got a strange problem... I'm trying to set my KDE using high quality TrueType (like Sans Serif) without any anti-aliasing. I've tried many configuration, but TTF are not smooth on KDE, the strange thing it's that in Mozilla Firefox and in GTK apps it's everything ok... can you help me please?
[10:59] <uselessidbr> genii: oh, i forgot about cisco routing protocols... not only their OS is good, but the protocols too... :P
[11:00] <uselessidbr> so it may wont be that simple :P
[11:00] <uselessidbr> cant anyone help halo_ ?
[11:03] <uselessidbr> i guess i will play some cs s
[11:03] <uselessidbr> :P
[11:03] <uselessidbr> genii: i will accept that coffee now
[11:03] <uselessidbr> :P
[11:05] <uselessidbr> genii: nice, thanks
[11:05] <uselessidbr> :D
[11:05] <genii> np
[11:05] <intelikey> anyone know howto make wine see the cdrom ?
[11:05] <uselessidbr> i wont go to high school today, made up my mind
[11:06] <intelikey> can i just link it in ~/.wine/  ?
[11:07] <uselessidbr> bye ppl
[11:07] <uselessidbr> thanks for everything
[11:07] <Photon> which is the free most popular linux destr.?
[11:07] <mrigns> is there a good qt mind mapping software in the repos?
[11:07] <uselessidbr> maybe someday i will be back  :D
[11:08] <Photon> cya
[11:08] <uselessidbr> Photon: i think its Debian
[11:08] <intelikey> Photon razorback linux
[11:08] <intelikey> Photon errr no maybe not.
[11:08] <Photon> lol
[11:08] <Photon> so..#1 is debian
[11:08] <Photon> #2 is what?
[11:09] <mrigns> www.distrowatch.com
[11:09] <intelikey> Photon it's among debian and it's dirivitives (like this one) gentoo redhat/fedora  slackware  suse  mandrake/mandriva
[11:10] <Photon> what about Ubuntu
[11:10] <mrigns> ubuntu is based on debian
[11:10] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:10] <intelikey> there are four package methoods    source   .deb .rpm  and tarballs
[11:10] <uselessidbr> suse is most used than debian?
[11:10] <uselessidbr> cant believe it
[11:11] <mrigns> suse is the most active one regarding enterprises i think
[11:11] <Photon> how does opensuse look like?
[11:11] <mrigns> being pushed by novell
[11:11] <tarelerulz> I have twm install ,but it dose not have anything
[11:11] <tarelerulz> I don't have xterm with it
[11:11] <mrigns> and dell is starting selling pcs with suse
[11:11] <intelikey> what do you mean tarelerulz ?
[11:11] <mrigns> Photon: www.opensuse.org
[11:12] <uselessidbr> mrigns: sure, i agree with that
[11:12] <intelikey> tarelerulz did you install xterm ?   did you install menu  ?
[11:12] <uselessidbr> suse is awesome
[11:12] <uselessidbr> a lot of packages :P
[11:12] <intelikey> tarelerulz if you are going to use twm you will want  menu  and xterm
[11:12] <mrigns> and its there since 1992
[11:12] <tarelerulz> I install twm and it debian show icons and hide icons
[11:13] <tarelerulz> it has menus
[11:13] <Photon> should i replace Kubuntu with openSuSe
[11:13] <Photon> :P
[11:13] <mrigns> favours are different
[11:13] <intelikey> i didn't say menus  i said  "menu"  install it.
[11:13] <uselessidbr> i think... debian is better, but opensuse too :P
[11:13] <genii> uselessidbr: Still here?
[11:13] <uselessidbr> genii: its hard to leave, lol
[11:14] <genii> uselessidbr: Got some links for you :)
[11:14] <uselessidbr> nice, let me see :D
[11:14] <genii> uselessidbr:
[11:14] <genii> http://www.isk.kth.se/proj/einar/
[11:14] <genii> http://www.zebra.org/
[11:14] <genii> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pyios/
[11:14] <genii> zebra is more an alternative tho
[11:14] <tarelerulz> No menu is something different you have to install with twm?
[11:14] <genii> The other 2 look not bad
[11:15] <mrigns> Photon: if you're new to linux try to use suse, mepis, ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:15] <mrigns> i think thats the easiest way to go
[11:15] <mrigns> as i dont recommend using sabayon
[11:15] <uselessidbr> genii: thanks, im bookmarking them :D
[11:15] <Photon> To put it lightly, I found OpenSuSE 10.2 to be a memory hog. On my machine with 640 MB RAM, it was sufficiently slow. I attribute it to the number of services running on OpenSuSE by default.
[11:16] <genii> uselessidbr: Lemme know how it goes later
[11:16] <Photon> http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/04/opensuse-102-review.html
[11:16] <Photon> from review
[11:16] <intelikey> tarelerulz just call     sudo apt-get install menu
[11:16] <tarelerulz> ok
[11:16] <uselessidbr> genii: the last one is a cisco simulator, good :D
[11:17] <Photon> http://linux.about.com/gi/pages/poll.htm?linkback=http%3A%2F%2Flinux.about.com%2Flibrary%2Fbl%2Fdist%2Fbldist_poll.htm&poll_id=4113693387&poll=1&submit1=Submit+Vote
[11:17] <mrigns> Photon: every distro has its pros and cons
[11:17] <tarelerulz> it says I have menu intelikey
[11:17] <genii> uselessidbr: There seems to be quite a lot of discussion of emulator vs simulator out there on this subject BTW LOL
[11:17] <intelikey> then twm is broke.
[11:17] <intelikey> !info menu
[11:17] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.29 (edgy), package size 379 kB, installed size 1580 kB
[11:18] <uselessidbr> genii: didnt know about that... so whats the best? :P
[11:18] <Photon> why dont all the linux community join and make one single Open Source OS
[11:18] <mrigns> lol
[11:18] <uselessidbr> Photon: whats the point? :D
[11:18] <mrigns> because they dont want to
[11:18] <genii> uselessidbr: If you have IOS then emulate. No IOS, simulate :)
[11:18] <uselessidbr> its like you only have one car to buy :P
[11:19] <uselessidbr> some ppl like different cars
[11:19] <kumamoto> don't want to fall into the M$ trap
[11:19] <Photon> lol
[11:19] <Photon> car with full option and flexiblity
[11:19] <Photon> able to change anything in it
[11:19] <tarelerulz> twm has menus in it . they just don't show anyting useful
[11:19] <mrigns> u can do that with all the distros
[11:20] <mrigns> u could even build your own from scrath if you liked to
[11:20] <Photon> but some are stable some are not, some are fast some are not, ect ect...
[11:20] <intelikey> tarelerulz that's what "menu" is for, to put the apps in the twm menus  and other wms as wll.
[11:20] <intelikey> well
[11:20] <Photon> why not make one os
[11:20] <uselessidbr> Photon: they have stable and testing versions
[11:20] <mrigns> that would slow the progress
[11:20] <mrigns> look at microsoft
[11:20] <uselessidbr> thats the point of being opensource
[11:20] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:21] <kumamoto> Photon: it is one OS but with different flavors
[11:21] <Photon> the whole linux community will slow the progress...
[11:21] <tarelerulz> intelikey how would I get that twmrc file from you?
[11:21] <mrigns> linux is  actually rather the same in every distro
[11:21] <uselessidbr> Photon lol
[11:21] <kumamoto> like one car different models
[11:21] <mrigns> there are just other programs installed
[11:21] <Photon> kumamoto: lol yeh i can see that, download 1000 dvd for each
[11:21] <mrigns> as is said
[11:21] <uselessidbr> you dont need more than 1
[11:21] <intelikey> you don't have to.   just copy the one form    /usr/share/doc/menu/examples/twm
[11:22] <mrigns> you can build your own
[11:22] <mrigns> with or without all the suff you like
[11:22] <kumamoto> Photon: actually now u can only install one cd for install that is it everything is free from the internet
[11:22] <mrigns> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[11:22] <kumamoto> no need for a million and one cds
[11:22] <uselessidbr> mrigns: thats the point, since its opensource :D
[11:22] <kumamoto> or dvds
[11:22] <intelikey> tarelerulz and then run   sudo update-menus
[11:22] <Photon> can i make kubuntu like suse
[11:23] <mrigns> u could
[11:23] <uselessidbr> Photon: u just need 1 cd/dvd, the others have packages that u probably wont use
[11:23] <Photon> can i make red hat, kubuntu?
[11:23] <tarelerulz> where is the menu config file for twm ?
[11:23] <kumamoto> you could if u have the time
[11:23] <mrigns> u can do everything
[11:23] <mrigns> u like to
[11:23] <kumamoto> you can make opensuse look like kubuntu
[11:23] <intelikey> tarelerulz the what ???
[11:23] <uselessidbr> what part of opensource he didnt get? :P
[11:23] <intelikey> :)
[11:23] <Photon> lol
[11:24] <kumamoto> Photon: you can make u r own flavor
[11:24] <Photon> i kno i kno
[11:24] <kumamoto> call it PhotonLinux
[11:24] <Photon> loool
[11:24] <Photon> no thx i dont want to make one
[11:24] <kumamoto> or Photonix
[11:24] <tarelerulz> twm has menu or config file right ?
[11:24] <uselessidbr> imo, since its opensource, its natural u have a lot of dists, for a lot of personal/professional reasons
[11:24] <Photon> uselessidbr: :D
[11:25] <kumamoto> Photon: u can make it as small as possbile and as huge as possible
[11:25] <uselessidbr> you can make a new dist just for learning porpuses
[11:25] <uselessidbr> :P
[11:25] <intelikey> tarelerulz  /usr/share/doc/menu/examples/twm   if you copy that to  ~/.twmrc    and restart twm
[11:25] <Photon> i know i can do anything i want,,,] 
[11:25] <kumamoto> Photon: flexibility
[11:25] <mrigns> or to produce your own pr0n if you like
[11:25] <intelikey> if you don't like it.  change it.
[11:25] <Photon> loool
[11:25] <kumamoto> mrigns: lol
[11:26] <mrigns> ;P
[11:26] <intelikey> default is nothing more than a starting point on the long road to right.
[11:26] <uselessidbr> if u dont like it. format it. shut down the computer and throw it on the garbage
[11:26] <Photon> lool
[11:26] <Photon> i do like it
[11:26] <uselessidbr> hehehe
[11:26] <Photon> but there are somethings that i dont like...
[11:27] <intelikey> uselessidbr  Q.  what do linux users do ?
[11:27] <intelikey> uselessidbr A.  they install software.
[11:27] <mrigns> they are installing software :D
[11:27] <mrigns> nah to slow
[11:27] <Photon> if i download a software from internet (NOT USING ADEPT), its pain to just install it...
[11:27] <uselessidbr> yeah, windows users: click next next finish
[11:27] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:27] <Photon> simple and easy
[11:27] <mrigns> installing it or compiling it?
[11:27] <intelikey> no windows users    reboot.
[11:27] <Photon> both
[11:28] <genii> intelikey: Heh :) I just did something wild n wonderful
[11:28] <tarelerulz> what if I copy the example to /usr/share/menu/twm
[11:28] <uselessidbr> compiling is the right answer lol
[11:28] <intelikey> genii ?
[11:28] <Photon> lol
[11:28] <mrigns> u can make your packages out of the source and share it with your friends
[11:28] <Photon> i kno
[11:28] <Photon> i kno
[11:28] <Photon> i kno
[11:28] <Photon> dont tell me what i can do
[11:28] <Photon> :P
[11:28] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:28] <Photon> lool
[11:29] <intelikey> tarelerulz ah...   worth a try....     "/me backs way back..."
[11:29] <mrigns> if you like the newest of the new software from sources try gentoo with its portage
[11:29] <genii> intelikey Installed linux onto a 486 laptop with 16 Mb ram over a plip0 connection to a netboot server which is also a mirror :)
[11:29] <uselessidbr> Photon i will tell you what u cant do... flood :D
[11:29] <abortd> when i run  svn ls http://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[11:29] <tarelerulz> I am being dumb I just don't know what file governs twm
[11:29] <Photon> looool
[11:29] <abortd> it says command not found
[11:29] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:30] <Jucato> abortd: do you have "subversion" installed?
[11:30] <intelikey> genii Y  U  133t thang U
[11:30] <genii> intelikey Did you know you can hack PXE bootdisks to have a PLIP PXE capability? Cool
[11:30] <genii> intelikey :)
[11:30] <intelikey> genii yeah or slip
[11:31] <intelikey> 25mhz ?
[11:31] <Photon> why dont they make a linux installer like the one in windows?
[11:31] <genii> intelikey: 66 :)
[11:31] <abortd> intelikey, how do i get this command to work?  svn ls http://svn.generation.no/emerald-themes
[11:31] <intelikey> oh that's too new.... mine is only 25
[11:31] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:31] <Photon> lol
[11:32] <Jucato> abortd: didn't I just ask? install subversion
[11:32] <intelikey> abortd what command ?
[11:32] <uselessidbr> Photon: because on linux you can know what you are doing
[11:32] <CVirus> Photon: are you talking serious ?
[11:32] <abortd> didnt see it
[11:32] <abortd> sorry
[11:32] <abortd> i am tired
[11:32] <uselessidbr> Photon: on windows they system does everything, and usually its shit
[11:32] <uselessidbr> :D
[11:32] <abortd> is subversion in the apt-get?
[11:32] <uselessidbr> *the system
[11:32] <Jucato> abortd: yes
[11:32] <mrigns> it istn shit
[11:32] <CVirus> abortd: yes
[11:32] <Photon> ll
[11:32] <Photon> lol
[11:32] <CVirus> mrigns: it is
[11:32] <mrigns> but you just dont know whats going on
[11:32] <intelikey> !info subversion
[11:32] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[11:32] <genii> intelikey If I disengage the Turbo button maybit it will be 8 Mhz LOL
[11:33] <uselessidbr> mrigns: i mean... viruses, spywares, etc :D
[11:33] <intelikey> genii lol
[11:33] <uselessidbr> and all malicious programs
[11:33] <uselessidbr> :P
[11:33] <Photon> lol uselessidbr i can now make a linux virus and send it to everybody :P
[11:33] <mrigns> if linux would have a marketshare of over 85% we would encounter the same problems
[11:33] <intelikey> you're a nut.     an   u bu nut
[11:33] <uselessidbr> yeah, but someone who knows about the language u used can understand it
[11:34] <CVirus> intelikey: hello there
[11:34] <intelikey> CVirus
[11:34] <Photon> uselessidbr:  its bcoz there is no too many users wanting to make virus's...ect.ect for linux, they are all using windows
[11:34] <Photon> there are*
[11:34] <uselessidbr> yes... but its also so much easy to see what it does when u use linux
[11:34] <uselessidbr> :P
[11:34] <CVirus> Photon: it's not about that
[11:35] <intelikey> genii at least tightvnc
[11:35] <abortd> svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/emerald-themes'
[11:35] <abortd> svn: PROPFIND of '/emerald-themes': 301 Moved Permanently (http://svn.generation.no)
[11:35] <CVirus> Photon: it's about the structure of the GNU/Linux OS in general
[11:35] <abortd> anyone know what that means?
[11:35] <Jucato> abortd: you'll have to ask the guys over at #beryl
[11:35] <mrigns> there are security leaks to
[11:35] <abortd> ok sory
[11:35] <genii> intelikey: Is it tolerably fast over printer port?
[11:35] <mrigns> if you want to hack it u can
[11:35] <uselessidbr> CVirus: he has a point, about 80% users uses windows, so its obviously most "aimed"
[11:35] <Photon> its easy to view the kernel source code, and from it make a virus
[11:36] <intelikey> genii well ....    let's just say if you aren't in a hurry   you can use it....
[11:36] <intelikey> if you don't want to do much...
[11:36] <uselessidbr> Photon: its also easy to understand the virus you make for it, lol
[11:36] <Photon> looooool
[11:36] <CVirus> uselessidbr: if Linux was aimed like windowz ... it won't be that affected
[11:36] <Photon> ROFLMAO
[11:36] <uselessidbr> CVirus: its what u think
[11:36] <uselessidbr> :)
[11:36] <mrigns> CVirus: it would
[11:36] <intelikey> genii but it was made for slow connections.
[11:36] <intelikey> back in the day.
[11:37] <intelikey> "the day !"
[11:37] <uselessidbr> just theres no 100% guaranteed system
[11:37] <genii> I think ppl who get malicious towards for instance windows because Bill Gates is a guy they like to think they are personally huirting. We don't have that "love to hate" kinda figurehead in linux. The penguin is too cute to want to harm :)
[11:37] <Photon> security is a PROBLEM for ALL THE OPERATING SYSTEM's
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> !offtopic
[11:37] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:37] <mrigns> there is no real security
[11:37] <CVirus> mrigns: uselessidbr: this is according to my experience .. I've been using GNU/Linux for long time now
[11:37] <uselessidbr> CVirus:  but im sorry to say that u are wrong
[11:37] <mrigns> CVirus: do you think im not using it?
[11:37] <intelikey> "the day !"
[11:37] <genii> Photon Yes, there will be always some idiot defeating the idiot-proofing measures ;)
[11:38] <CVirus> mrigns: didn't really care about that
[11:38] <mrigns> i even install it in the buisness sector
[11:38] <CVirus> uselessidbr: "wrong" is a point of view actually :-)
[11:38] <Jucato> guys, again, getting !offtopic
[11:38] <intelikey> oh i like that one.  "if you make it idiot proff, they will just make a better idiot"
[11:38] <Photon> lol
[11:38] <Photon> yeh...
[11:38] <genii> OK, anyone with some tech support questions to interrupt the offtopic out there? Cmon, bring it on :)
[11:38] <intelikey> back in  "the day !"
[11:39] <uselessidbr> CVirus: yes, just consider the suposed contexts, in a different context you would see it :D
[11:39] <genii> Admiral_Chicago: I've done my part :)
[11:39] <Photon> where can i get vista theme for Kubuntu?
[11:39] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:39] <uselessidbr> :D
[11:39] <Photon> XD
[11:39] <mrigns> try the crystal theme
[11:39] <uselessidbr> gnome is so much nice
[11:40] <intelikey> Photon lol
[11:40] <genii> Photon If you really want one it exists
[11:40] <uselessidbr> windows themes sucks
[11:40] <genii> at kde-look.org
[11:40] <uselessidbr> no doubt about that
[11:40] <Photon> uselessidbr: its better than linux...
[11:40] <Photon> :P
[11:40] <uselessidbr> no way
[11:40] <Photon> kubuntu i mean
[11:40] <genii> @lart Photon
[11:41] <intelikey> hey we could all go over to    ##windows and see what they think about  *
[11:41] <uselessidbr> yeah, i dont like kde too
[11:41] <Photon> lol
[11:41] <Admiral_Chicago> genii: yes you have.
[11:41] <uselessidbr> Photon: try gnome human theme, i like it
[11:41] <uselessidbr> :)
[11:42] <Photon> :) where and how ? lol thats the problem with linux, where can i get it, and how can i install it
[11:42] <Photon> and explain in details....lol
[11:42] <uselessidbr> sudo apt-get install gnome
[11:42] <CVirus> Photon: your talk hasn't been making much sense
[11:42] <uselessidbr> on console
[11:42] <intelikey> Photon and that's a problem ???    in the repos   and use the packagemanager
[11:42] <mrigns> Photon: http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7682/bildschirmphoto2ms6.png
[11:42] <CVirus> !apt
[11:42] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:42] <CVirus> Photon: ^
[11:42] <chalmer_> HELP !!! grub missing on boot up. Windows xp/Kubuntu dual boot. how can i restore the "grub ?"
[11:42] <Photon> calm down people
[11:42] <Photon> CALM DOWN!!
[11:43] <CVirus> Photon: read about the package management
[11:43] <CVirus> Photon: and now you're shouting at a volunteer
[11:43] <intelikey> try the package manager
[11:43] <uselessidbr> Photon: sudo apt-get install gnome (on console)
[11:43] <CVirus> chalmer_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[11:43] <Photon> k
[11:43] <Photon> k
[11:43] <Photon> k
[11:44] <uselessidbr> lol :D
[11:44] <Photon> lol
[11:44] <CVirus> chalmer_: or even this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Restore_Grub
[11:44] <chalmer_> CVirus> yes
[11:44] <uselessidbr> photon: then choose Gnome on session when boot :D
[11:44] <Photon> so..how are you all today?
[11:44] <uselessidbr> nice, and ya?
[11:44] <Photon> good
[11:44] <mrigns> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:44] <intelikey> nice 99 man nice
[11:44] <uselessidbr> enjoying your linux experience?
[11:44] <Photon> yup....
[11:44] <Photon> lol
[11:45] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:45] <chalmer_> CVirus>  ty ill check it out
[11:45] <Photon> having a nice discussion with u
[11:45] <CVirus> chalmer_: no problem
[11:45] <Photon> all vs me :P
[11:45] <uselessidbr> its funny, lol
[11:45] <uselessidbr> well, they are all linux geeks
[11:45] <uselessidbr> :X
[11:45] <intelikey> o or u   ?
[11:45] <Photon> XD
[11:45] <mrigns> !cu | intelikey
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:46] <mrigns> :(
[11:46] <uselessidbr> linux = advanced users, windows =lame users
[11:46] <mrigns> uselessidbr: lol
[11:46] <mrigns> i actually dont think so
[11:46] <uselessidbr> so, windows is better for some, and linux for others :P
[11:46] <Photon> Windows & Mac > linux
[11:46] <mrigns> u must be a super haxxor to change something in windows
[11:46] <uselessidbr> mac sucks... lol
[11:46] <mrigns> in linux everyone could do it
[11:47] <intelikey> uselessidbr that's a matter of opention...   and not mine.
[11:47] <kumamoto> uselessidbr: ooh
[11:47] <Photon> lol
[11:47] <_4strO> uselessidbr: i love my XPbox
[11:47] <charlesHKG> I have tried to fix a screwed up resolution, thanks to Login Window Preferences which only managed to ask for my password and then without my knowing it ...screwed up my resolution.  When I run the Xserver script again, it crashes out with [ xserver-xorg postinst warning: Not updating /etc/X11/x; file has been customized.]    AND [ xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file; backup in
[11:47] <charlesHKG> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2007040319955 ]   does anyone know which xorg.conf file is the original?   how can I uncustomize it?
[11:47] <uselessidbr> well, if u use it to design, cool
[11:47] <mrigns> they are even i think, but kde being the best DE in all OSs
[11:47] <kumamoto> windows users are hardcore they have the patience to deal with the crap
[11:47] <uselessidbr> otherwise... i think it sucks :D
[11:47] <Photon> lol
[11:48] <kumamoto> just like the wife whose husband keeps give her crap and she still thinks its love
[11:48] <kumamoto> just my 2c
[11:48] <_4strO> XP is like XBOX, playstation, ..
[11:48] <_4strO> for work, linux is the best !
[11:48] <mrigns> i got linux running on my xbox though ;P
[11:48] <intelikey> charlesHKG the suffix is time stamps
[11:49] <Photon> for home linux is good, for work windows is good
[11:49] <uselessidbr> loool
[11:49] <Photon> windows is for both
[11:49] <Photon> lol
[11:49] <mrigns> it all depends on waht you are doing
[11:49] <uselessidbr> windows for work? lol
[11:49] <_4strO> juste compare notepad and kate .... everything is said
[11:49] <Photon> gamin,programming
[11:49] <Admiral_Chicago> please take this to #kubunt-offtopic . this is my last warning
[11:49] <mrigns> lol kate is not comparable to notepad
[11:49] <uselessidbr> windows 4 work = bankrupt
[11:49] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:49] <Photon> all go to kubuntu offtopic NOW!!
[11:49] <uselessidbr> yeah yeah
[11:49] <_4strO> mrigns: they are the text editor by default ...
[11:50] <charlesHKG> intelikey: right...I have 2 xorg.conf files....1 is just xorg.conf  the other is xorg.conf1   which would be the original???
[11:50] <Photon> uselessidbr: lol
[11:50] <_4strO> charlesHKG: the second one
[11:50] <_4strO> with the 1
[11:50] <uselessidbr> they are right ;(
[11:50] <intelikey> charlesHKG    ls -l /etc/X11/xorg*
[11:50] <charlesHKG> with the 1...right...thanks _4strO
[11:50] <intelikey> look at the date
[11:51] <Photon> how fast is linux on xbox & xbox 360?
[11:51] <charlesHKG> ok
[11:51] <uselessidbr> Photon: do u think they use it for gaming? :P
[11:51] <Photon> linux? no...
[11:51] <Photon> xbox ? yes
[11:51] <uselessidbr> lol
[11:52] <Photon> :p lol
[11:52] <uselessidbr> offtopic -> kubuntu-offtopic :X
[11:52] <uselessidbr> i will warm some chinese food
[11:52] <chalmer_> CVirus>  what does it mean" mount the appropiate linux partitions" /  , /boot  ,  swap   ?
[11:53] <genii> Photon Unless you are installing Kubuntu onto that Xbox you should maybe heed the offtopic comments LOL
[11:53] <CVirus> chalmer_: which article ?
[11:53] <Photon> genii: loool
[11:53] <chalmer_> the last 1 u posted
[11:53] <uselessidbr> he just want to flame
[11:53] <uselessidbr> :X
[11:53] <CVirus> chalmer_: I don't really recall if this one worked with the dapper installer or not ... lemme check
[11:54] <chalmer_> CVirus>  im doing the cd install method
[11:54] <CVirus> chalmer_: IIRC it didn't
[11:54] <brzeszczot> any one can check #worldchat - there is no people?
[11:54] <intelikey> CVirus what's he working on there ?
[11:54] <CVirus> intelikey: restoring grub
[11:54] <intelikey> !grub
[11:54] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:54] <uselessidbr> brzeszczot: good one
[11:54] <uselessidbr> brzeszczot: good one, now there is.
[11:55] <Photon> lol
[11:55] <CVirus> intelikey: wow ... didn't know about that .. thanks
[11:56] <Photon> what is the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[11:56] <Photon> KDE?
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> Photon: yes
[11:56] <kumamoto> Photon: I play windows games on linux with no issue
[11:56] <uselessidbr> Photon: ubuntu uses gnome
[11:57] <uselessidbr> kumamoto: what? quake1? what else? lol
[11:57] <Agent_bob> yep that's right... modem reset.
[11:57] <Photon> and,,,kde is better than gnome? :P :P (dont flame forget this question)
[11:57] <kumamoto> CS Source and Day of Defeat Games
[11:57] <Photon> uselessidbr:  only quake 1 lol
[11:57] <charlesHKG> how do I edit the xorg.conf files so I can use the oldest one?
[11:57] <uselessidbr> Photon: i think its way better :D
[11:57] <Photon> :D
[11:58] <uselessidbr> Photon: i mean, gnome is way better
[11:58] <Photon> loool
[11:58] <Photon> what will be the future of linux?
[11:58] <kumamoto> everyone of them has it own strengths and weaknesses
[11:58] <uselessidbr> god save me the day i play games on ubuntu, i should be crazy
[11:59] <Photon> will it continue? will there be a new one to replace it?
[11:59] <Hobbsee> Photon: sounds like a #kubuntu-offtopic type question
[11:59] <charlesHKG> _4strO: intelikey.....how can I edit the xorg.conf file??
[11:59] <kumamoto> I think it will replace itself with itself
[11:59] <Photon> okok but there is no body there Hobbsee
[11:59] <Admiral_Chicago> doesn't matter
[11:59] <uselessidbr> lol :D
[11:59] <_4strO> charlesHKG: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:59] <Admiral_Chicago> this is a support channel
[11:59] <uselessidbr> Photon: talk to chanserv, he is nice
[11:59] <charlesHKG> thanks
[12:00] <Photon> looooooooool uselessidbr
[12:00] <Hobbsee> Photon: there's also #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:00] <Hobbsee> which has lots of people
[12:00] <Admiral_Chicago> regarless of the number of people Photon
[12:00] <uselessidbr> lol
[12:00] <genii> intelikey FreeNX is slow but tolerable btw :) Thought you might like to know
[12:01] <Agent_bob> genii cool
[12:01] <kumamoto> genii: never has issues with FreeNX being slow if i may interject
[12:01] <Agent_bob> did you try tightvnc  ?
[12:01] <genii> kumamoto: Try running it on a 486 66 over the printer port and then talk to me! ROFL
[12:01] <Agent_bob> kumamoto :)
[12:01] <kumamoto> genii: get u r point
[12:01] <genii> Agent_bob: Not yet
[12:02] <Agent_bob> "get u r point"  ?
[12:02] <soon> Installing kubuntu on a dell laptop with one win xp partition - I cant resize the win partition with Qtparted: Opening '/dev/hdc1' as NTFS failed: operation not supported
[12:02] <Photon> Kubuntu....
[12:02] <genii> kumamoto: I did it more just to see if it was possible. It is
[12:02] <Photon> starts with K
[12:02] <Photon> :P
[12:03] <kumamoto> I got tired of vnc and switched to Freenx which I loved
[12:03] <Agent_bob> soon you should boot windows  turn off swapt file   defrag and try again.
[12:04] <genii> Can anyone help soon with his partitioning issue?
[12:04] <soon> okay - I'll give that a shot!
[12:04] <Agent_bob> soon ah   chkdsk first
[12:04] <Agent_bob> then defrag
[12:04] <soon> okay-li-dokey-li
[12:04] <Agent_bob> genii no.
[12:04] <Photon> where can i download defrag tool for linux
[12:04] <Hobbsee> Photon: you dont need to
[12:04] <genii> heh :)
[12:04] <smart_> hI
[12:05] <smart_> Is ther any chance to update to fiest from a fiesty Desktop cd
[12:05] <Agent_bob> Photon we dont play that game.
[12:05] <Photon> what game?
[12:05] <Agent_bob> defrag  antivirus  ...
[12:05] <Photon> just give me the name ill download from adept
[12:05] <Agent_bob> reboot
[12:05] <Agent_bob> ...
[12:05] <Photon> ...oh
[12:06] <genii> Photon Probably the same place you can find all those nifty tools for replacing all the unix commands with the much more preferred DOS ones
[12:06] <uselessidbr> haha
[12:06] <Photon> llinux doesnt need
[12:06] <smart_> ?
[12:06] <Agent_bob> Photon no.
[12:06] <david_> hi
[12:06] <Photon> k
[12:06] <Admiral_Chicago> smart_: why would you need to update to feisty from a CD?
[12:06] <uselessidbr> defrag is for losers
[12:06] <Photon> hi david
[12:06] <smart_> Bec i have the Cd
[12:06] <Agent_bob> genii heh  just get the coffee    :)
[12:06] <david_> can i use two screens with every graphic controller?
[12:07] <uselessidbr> genii doesnt stop drinking coffee, do u sleep any time?
[12:07] <uselessidbr> :P
[12:07] <genii> david_: Yes
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> smart_: what do you mean update?
[12:07] <david_> two screens with different content?
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> oh, i see...
[12:07] <smart_> Sorry upgrade !
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> so what kind of partion do you have
[12:07] <Photon> to everyone
[12:07] <Admiral_Chicago> err, what release do you have know.
[12:07] <soon> david if your gaphics card has two outputs it probably can
[12:07] <genii> uselessidbr: Truthfully, maybe 6 hours every 2 days. About microREM I dunno. Likely hours sometimes when in here staring at the screen :)
[12:07] <uselessidbr> bye
[12:08] <Photon> :D it was fun talkin with u all
[12:08] <uselessidbr> genii: work or just fun? :P
[12:08] <smart_> Admiral_Chicago, I have edgy
[12:08] <genii> uselessidbr: Theres a distinction?
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: yes, been coding all night for the past two nights
[12:08] <Agent_bob> Jucato   :)
[12:08] <uselessidbr> sometimes :(
[12:08] <david_> soon: yap, it has.. is there a ubuntu-tool which allows me to do this?
[12:08] <genii> you get the idea
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> smart_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:08] <chalmer_> CVirus>  what happen was i was n windows and it showed that i had 2 partitions named " swap " so i thought that linux only uses 1 swap file so i deleted 1 of the swap's and it must been tha wrong 1 w/ the MBR on it.
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> Ctrl + R
[12:08] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: ah ok :) "partition" and "now" :)
[12:08] <Admiral_Chicago> change edgy no feisty
[12:09] <soon> you have to set up your xorg.conf to support two heads
[12:09] <soon> try googling for dual-head
[12:09] <david_> ok, i'll try.. :) thx
[12:09] <filosoff> hello. can anyone help me set up Texas Instruments PCIxx21 Integrated FlashMedia Controller? I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 with latest (2.6.20.4) kernel. I've compiled tifm module, read many forums but still no luck...
[12:09] <smart_> Admiral_Chicago, i dont want to use the internet to upgrade
[12:09] <uselessidbr> apt-cdrom
[12:09] <uselessidbr> !apt-cdrom
[12:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:09] <CVirus> chalmer_: you've delete your root partition
[12:09] <uselessidbr> lol
[12:09] <Admiral_Chicago> smart_: ah i see, i don't think you can from CD, dependency issues most likely
[12:09] <Agent_bob> Jucato i kinda dred seeing the code ....   ;
[12:10] <CVirus> chalmer_: you've delete the Linux partition ... re-install
[12:10] <Agent_bob> it may look like mine.
[12:10] <Jucato> Agent_bob: heh :)
[12:10] <Agent_bob> :)
[12:10] <smart_> So i must have the alernate*
[12:10] <uselessidbr> Admiral_Chicago: he has the feisty cd
[12:10] <smart_> I have a Fiesty Beta Desktop Cd
[12:11] <uselessidbr> oh, i see...
[12:11] <uselessidbr> smart_: probably
[12:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i know, but that doesn't mean you won't et all the dependecies needed because linux is so modular
[12:11] <smart_> Admiral_Chicago, but i can with alernate*
[12:11] <smart_> ?
[12:12] <Admiral_Chicago> no, alternative is for things like text install, RAID etc
[12:12] <smart_> ok
[12:12] <Agent_bob> the dvd  ?
[12:13] <filosoff> nevermind... i found a driver - sdhci :)
[12:14] <smart_> Admiral_Chicago, the problem with the cd that every time when it check a part (fat32) the computer freez
[12:14] <CarinArr> smart_: i had that too
[12:14] <uselessidbr> delete it, lol
[12:14] <uselessidbr> :X
[12:14] <CarinArr> smart_: solved it by mounting it, moving the data elsewhere, and reformatting it
[12:14] <chalmer_> CVirus>  well since i dont understand the linux slang . i guess im going to do a new instal of kubuntu.
[12:14] <Admiral_Chicago> you check during boot of the CD?
[12:15] <smart_> CarinArr, no mush space
[12:15] <charlesHKG> _4strO: rather than open it in kate and then saving it, then renaming it....how do i rename the file???
[12:15] <smart_> much*
[12:15] <charlesHKG> the older one that is?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> charlesHKG: open it in konqueror, hit f2
[12:15] <_4strO> charlesHKG: save as
[12:15] <smart_> so i will stick whith edgy now untill stable
[12:15] <CarinArr> smart_: ouch. dunno then, part of fsck-ing it.. it might be it doesn't actually freeze, just takes a really really long time
[12:15] <uselessidbr> charlesHKG: cp file newfile ?
[12:15] <CVirus> chalmer_: yes ... you just deleted the partition that contains your Linux OS ... so you'll have to re-install
[12:16] <soon> Its no longer an issue: the partition table has been corrupted - at boot up, there is no OS to be found on the harddrive :-)
[12:16] <smart_> CarinArr, i let it about 10 min or less and the compter was freezzed
[12:16] <smart_> cmpuyer*
[12:16] <uselessidbr> charlesHKG: i can help on nano, just hit ctrl-o and choose the name... lol :P
[12:16] <CarinArr> smart_: my fsck took hours, and finished in IO errors;)
[12:16] <soon> so, I guess the windows partion will be deleted
[12:17] <uselessidbr> soon: lol, its always a good option
[12:17] <smart_> CarinArr, ! :)
[12:17] <Agent_bob> :)
[12:17] <CarinArr> smart_: but it was easy choice what to do about it, just move the stuff elsewhere.. if you don't have that option it makes things a good bit more difficult
[12:17] <CarinArr> smart_: you can't write the data onto dvds or anything?
[12:17] <smart_> CarinArr, no sorry i didnt by it yet
[12:17] <soon> not my computer though ... good thing I did a complete backup to external harddrive
[12:17] <abortd> i finally got beryl setup all nice
[12:17] <abortd> :D
[12:18] <uselessidbr> oh :)
[12:18] <uselessidbr> soon: want it too
[12:18] <CarinArr> smart_: can't really recommend anything else i'm afraid, not really an expert when it comes to these things, just accidentally had to deal with it myself;
[12:18] <CarinArr> ;) even
[12:19] <smart_> CarinArr, no pro any way i have now edgy :)
[12:19] <genii> Wow. I just went to Conexant's site to find an email address for the powers-that-be there. No place on the entire site is there an email address.
[12:19] <genii> Maybe they get flamed
[12:21] <Agent_bob> Q. how do you catch a unique rabbit ?
[12:21] <smart_> !easysource
[12:21] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:21] <Agent_bob> A. unique up on it.
[12:21] <Agent_bob> Q.  how do you catch a tame rabbit ?
[12:21] <Jucato> bah
[12:21] <Agent_bob> Q. tame way.
[12:22] <Agent_bob> :)
[12:23] <Agent_bob> ooops that last  Q is an A
[12:24] <charlesHKG> _4strO:  sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.123 will make xorg.conf into xorg.conf.123??  Will I need to delete xorg.conf or will be a xorg.conf???
[12:24] <smart_> Admiral_Chicago, Thanks
[12:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i'm leaving you in charge while I sleep. :)
[12:24] <smart_> CarinArr, Thanks
[12:24] <charlesHKG> will there be al xorg.conf?
[12:24] <Agent_bob> cp is  copy
[12:24] <Agent_bob> mv is move
[12:24] <_4strO> charlesHKG: xorg.confi is the one would be load on next X start
[12:25] <charlesHKG> so how can I rename?
[12:25] <Jucato> mv (move) is also used to rename
[12:25] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sweet dreams :)
[12:25] <Jucato> may you dream of foxes, birds, and monkeys of varying elements :)
[12:25] <Agent_bob> now we've had it.....
[12:26] <Agent_bob> everybody run.
[12:26] <Admiral_Chicago> 2 of every kind.
[12:26] <genii> How far to Marathon again?
[12:26] <Agent_bob> 7 of some.  2 of every.
[12:26] <smart_> i am doing this
[12:26] <smart_> gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[12:26] <smart_> gpg: "KEY" not a key ID: skipping
[12:26] <Agent_bob> genii :)
[12:27] <smart_>  gpg: "KEY" not a key ID: skipping..why
[12:27] <smile> what is a bot ?
[12:27] <Agent_bob> oh yeah i need to update too.....
[12:27] <Agent_bob> back later.
[12:28] <genii> smart_:  You know where it says "KEY" you need the actual info of the key, yes?
[12:29] <smart_> genii, in the source list they give me this gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY
[12:29] <smart_> any way i am updatting now
[12:32] <uselessidbr> you ppl eat in front of computer?
[12:33] <CarinArr> too often
[12:33] <uselessidbr> lol
[12:33] <CarinArr> makes for annoying crumbs stuck in your keyboard though
[12:33] <uselessidbr> its being a nerd, right? lol
[12:33] <CarinArr> well for me it's more being busy with work and not really having time to take a break;)
[12:34] <uselessidbr> yeah, can be it too
[12:34] <CarinArr> or rather not daring to take a break cause i might loose my train of thought
[12:34] <mrigns> i can even go to the toilet with my laptop!
[12:34] <uselessidbr> hehehehe
[12:34] <uselessidbr> really...
[12:35] <uselessidbr> mrigns: lol, do u sleep with in on ur arms too?
[12:35] <voicu> wtf, amarok reversed my entire playlist
[12:35] <mrigns> i got a desktop at my bed. so yes
[12:35] <voicu> how do i change it back?
[12:35] <zak> i have multiverse enabled on 7.04, but i still don't see packages like official java and flash packages... what's going on?
[12:36] <|orange|> hm
[12:36] <Orange1> what package contains all the mp3/avi /divx codecs?
[12:36] <Orange1> is it libxine?
[12:37] <voicu> event more weird, the songs were reversed in the albums, but the albums are in the same order?
[12:37] <Jucato> Orange1: libxine-extracodecs
[12:37] <voicu> *even
[12:37] <genii> !codecs
[12:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <Orange1> Jucato: how would i go about reinstalling that package?
[12:38] <genii> See link 1 above
[12:38] <Jucato> Orange1: se the help page above
[12:39] <mrigns> there is a debian package which can used too, but its not supported by ubuntu afaik
[12:39] <mrigns> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20061022-0.0_i386.deb
[12:39] <superman> hello
[12:39] <uselessidbr> hello
[12:39] <mrigns> greetings fellow
[12:40] <genii> !info w32codecs
[12:40] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:40] <superman> I installed kubuntu on my laptop and the mouse is not working please could someone assist me?
[12:40] <genii> i386 only I see
[12:41] <Orange1> Jucato:  i read that link already - its outdated since 4-5 of the packages it tells me to install dont exist or arent there anymore -- i enabled all the repos in adept incl universe / multi
[12:41] <Orange1> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[12:41] <uselessidbr> !info javaplayer
[12:41] <ubotu> Package javaplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[12:41] <superman> I installed kubuntu on my laptop and the mouse is not working please could someone assist me?
[12:42] <genii> superman: The mouse builtin to the laptop or a mouse you plugged into it?
[12:42] <superman> yes the builtin mouse on the laptop
[12:43] <genii> superman: Does it get controlled by a stick in the keyboard, a ball on the side or is it a touchscreen thing?
[12:44] <superman> a touchscreen
[12:44] <genii> eg: trackball joystick touchscreen
[12:44] <superman> touchscreen
[12:44] <genii> superman make and model of laptop please
[12:45] <superman> HP 510
[12:46] <genii> superman Finally what issue of Kubuntu. Dapper Edgy Feisty   etc
[12:48] <genii> If Edgy then the answer is here: http://hp500.xf.cz/us/Main.html
[12:49] <uselessidbr> how does he click on that without a mouse?
[12:49] <uselessidbr> kidding, lol
[12:49] <ukubuntu> !kooka
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kooka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <genii> where it says "gedit" replace with "kdesu kate"
[12:49] <genii> ukubuntu: :)
[12:49] <uselessidbr> /run www.example.com
[12:50] <ukubuntu> Hi all  :)
[12:50] <uselessidbr> how does i run mozilla from command line here?
[12:50] <ukubuntu> Just trying to sort Kooka :)
[12:50] <genii> just type in firefox
[12:50] <uselessidbr> is there any command to run it from here?
[12:51] <genii> ./
 I have Dapper
[12:53] <kumamoto> firefox-bin
[12:53] <kumamoto> my 2c
Its actually Breezy Badger third release of Ubuntu succeeding HoaryHedgehog and preceding DapperDrake.
[12:55] <genii> superman You may want to consider upgrading it :)
[12:55] <uselessidbr> how i can make kedit to recognize shell script commands (color it)
[12:55] <genii> superman I can find no immediate answer to your issue unfortunately
[12:56] <uselessidbr> how i can make kedit to recognize shell script commands (color it)?
[12:56] <ukubuntu_> damn, cable cut out after message, sorry if anyone replied, I have found the File: ocrad-0.16.tar.bz2 but would not know what to do with it
[12:56] <genii> superman Have you looked at the Synaptic touchpad parts of your xorg.conf   and so on yet?
[12:57] <uselessidbr> :(
[12:57] <superman> yes I did. just not sure what should be there and what not. andy easy wat to upgrade?
[12:58] <uselessidbr> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:59] <orange1> !startup
[12:59] <ubotu> To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[12:59] <genii> Not directly from breezy to Edgy
[12:59] <genii> But you can do the 2 stage process
[01:01] <PhinnFort> is the grub that comes with feisty patched with the gfxboot patches?
[01:01] <PhinnFort> !grub
[01:01] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:02] <PhinnFort> !gfxboot
[01:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gfxboot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:02] <CarinArr> !feisty
[01:02] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:02] <genii> superman http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#Upgrading_Ubuntu may help
[01:04] <genii> !ubuntu+1
[01:04] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:04] <PhinnFort> !repeat
[01:04] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:04] <genii> hrm
[01:04] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:05] <genii> @lart ubotu
[01:05] <uselessidbr> does anyone knows how to make kedit recognize shell script "words" coloring it?
[01:06] <uselessidbr> god... how much money u waste on coffee? lol
[01:06] <rwitten> does FEISTY support ntfs read-WRITE support out of the box?
[01:06] <genii> uselessidbr: A *lot*
[01:06] <PhinnFort> uselessidbr: use Kate or KWrite
[01:06] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[01:06] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:06] <genii> KWrite has it
[01:07] <PhinnFort> KWrite uses KatePart too, afaik
[01:07] <genii> rwitten: gOD i HOPE NOT
[01:07] <genii> bleh capslock
[01:07] <rwitten> genii: god, i too hope not, but will the damn thing happen?
[01:07] <gogeta> had to use alt install but i got the beta in lol
[01:08] <genii> !info ntfs-3g feisty
[01:08] <ubotu> ntfs-3g: read-write NTFS driver for FUSE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 25 kB, installed size 88 kB
[01:08] <genii> rwitten: Still says "optional"
[01:08] <rwitten> genii: COOL!!!
[01:08] <gogeta> lol
[01:08] <rwitten> thanks
[01:08] <gogeta> optional
[01:09] <gogeta> you might or might not have windows lol
[01:09] <uselessidbr> PhinnFort: what configuration i must enable? there?
[01:09] <genii> rwitten: np
[01:09] <rwitten> genii: that's why i love ubuntu, because it always puts security and stability first
[01:09] <PhinnFort> uselessidbr: in kate?
[01:09] <uselessidbr> kate or kwrite... whatever
[01:09] <PhinnFort> uselessidbr: go to Tools .> Highlighting
[01:10] <gogeta> ecause it always puts security and stability first that some kind of joke lol
[01:10] <uselessidbr> PhinnFort: so...?
[01:10] <rwitten> gogeta: yes, it is a bitter sarcasm
[01:10] <rwitten> gogeta: ntfs-3g is FUCKING stable!
[01:11] <PhinnFort> uselessidbr: select Script-> bash or something
[01:11] <dwidmann> genii: capslock? You mean you haven't turned that into an exta ctrl key?
[01:11] <gogeta> they cant even detect my 5 year old ati card that has full oss support lol
[01:11] <rwitten> gogeta: WTF, ubuntu is not supposed to mean debian stable
[01:11] <uselessidbr> PhinnFort: thanks
[01:11] <PhinnFort> np
[01:11] <gogeta> i have to do it manuly
[01:11] <genii> dwidmann: I'm too egotistical :) like to see the letter i capitalised
[01:12] <dwidmann> That's the only way I can live really .... I have to turn ctrl into something else before the key drives me crazy ....
[01:13] <dwidmann> alternative, this keyboard doesn'te even have a capslock key
[01:13] <gogeta> sorry to the ubuntu team but if your installer cant see a oss supported card you should look into that lol
[01:13] <elbing> I'm not in kubuntu now, I need to show what version of libsdl1.2 has Edgy. I need 1.2.11 or a bugfix for bad descriptor /dev/sequencer
[01:13] <elbing> thanks in advance
[01:13] <uselessidbr> bye ppl
[01:14] <uselessidbr> now im going
[01:14] <uselessidbr> :D
[01:14] <genii> have fun :)
[01:14] <uselessidbr> thanks everyone for everything
[01:14] <PhinnFort> you are welcome
[01:14] <uselessidbr> genii: thanks and bye
[01:14] <uselessidbr> PhinnFort: thanks too, bye
[01:14] <uselessidbr> :)
[01:14] <gogeta> and acpi has been broken for like 3 years
[01:14] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:14] <gogeta> lol
[01:14] <uselessidbr> gogeta: not only on ubuntu
[01:14] <uselessidbr> :P
[01:15] <gogeta> likes to turn off my fans and not tun them back on
[01:15] <genii> gogeta Yes I'm tired of having to put acpi=force
[01:15] <gogeta> yea but they should have disbld it by defult
[01:15] <gogeta> nope
[01:15] <mhk> I installed xubuntu-desktop and I switched the WM afterwards. But I don't see any panel nor i can execute anything with alt+f2. Has someone a clue?
[01:15] <gogeta> being they knoe its broken
[01:15] <gogeta> nope
[01:16] <gogeta> only if you hit f1 iin the notes does it say acpi sucks tunr it off
[01:16] <gogeta> lol
[01:17] <gogeta> i have to do acpi=off noapic
[01:17] <gogeta> otherwise everything usb failes and so does my nic
[01:17] <coty> is there away to set up konversation to re connect to a channel after being kicked
[01:18] <gogeta> auto join i think
[01:18] <coty> how
[01:18] <coty> I need it
[01:18] <gogeta> in your irc config
[01:18] <coty> what should i look for
[01:19] <gogeta> guess it doesent have it
[01:20] <gogeta> i knoe xcat does
[01:20] <coty> Yea i dont see it
[01:20] <gogeta> xchat
[01:20] <coty> ok
[01:20] <coty> i have xchat
[01:20] <gogeta> and mirc as long as you had it in auto join any kicks sent you back
[01:20] <mhk> is someone used to xfce?
[01:21] <coty> I just have this one channel were the op does not like me for some reason
[01:21] <gogeta> xfce lol
[01:21] <gogeta> i havent ran that in a long time
[01:21] <BluesKaj> why gogeta, did you get kicked a lot ?
[01:21] <gogeta> lol
[01:21] <CarinArr> ;)
[01:21] <BluesKaj> :)
[01:21] <gogeta> iv been banned befor
[01:21] <coty> I get kicked as soon as i join one of channel
[01:22] <gogeta> your name registerd with nickserv
[01:22] <gogeta> alot of times they auto kick for not being registerd
[01:23] <coty> no
[01:23] <coty> it is the op
[01:23] <coty> she does not like me
[01:23] <gogeta> as you can tell by my name lol i have been hear for a long time
[01:23] <gogeta> lol
[01:23] <gnomefreak> guys please take this topic to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:23] <gogeta> golden rule assume everyone is a man
[01:23] <CarinArr> gnomefreak: to be fair the question is konversation related. even if finding out the answer won't help him a whole lot;)
[01:24] <gogeta> yea if you start rejoing alot the bot willprobly just ban
[01:24] <gnomefreak> CarinArr: auto rejoining/ op doesnt like me is offtopic
[01:24] <coty> I rejoin manually
[01:24] <coty> it gets very pain full
[01:24] <BluesKaj> gnomefreak , it's a slow day here ... a lil leniency pls :)
[01:25] <CarinArr> gnomefreak: well yes, but his actual question was not
[01:25] <CarinArr> and to answer the question, i don't know
[01:25] <CarinArr> i don't use konversation
[01:25] <gnomefreak> CarinArr: it was getting offtopic if it continues move it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:25] <coty> i cant get xchat to work
[01:25] <coty> so i dont use it
[01:25] <gogeta> yea whers the linux systems burning down like  normal
[01:26] <gogeta> now thers a topic
[01:26] <gogeta> xchat not working?
[01:26] <coty> oh
[01:26] <coty> i think i know why
[01:27] <coty> so how do i set up re join
[01:27] <coty> in xchat
[01:27] <gogeta> i gotta install it myself to rember lol
[01:28] <genii> Wow, weird. Romo-o-matic seems to have removed the image generator from their page
[01:28] <smart__> desont edgy use last kernel
[01:28] <coty> gogeta: ....
[01:28] <gogeta> and apt is busy with a million updates atm
[01:28] <smart__> ?
[01:28] <genii> ROM-Matic ,rather :)
[01:28] <gnomefreak> coty: there are a few scripts too look for that will do it but it wont work if they use /remove
[01:28] <genii> bleh damn you keyboard!~!!
[01:28] <coty> gnomefreak: ok
[01:29] <coty> gnomefreak: would they ban me if i rejoin every time
[01:29] <gnomefreak> yep but depends on them. them == us yes we will
[01:29] <gogeta> hhear it is
[01:29] <gogeta> set irc_auto_rejoin 1
[01:29] <smart__> desont edgy use last kernel
[01:29] <BluesKaj> coty, you flood the channel with rejoins
[01:29] <coty> gnomefreak: so you ban if the person keeps rejoining
[01:30] <gogeta> probly work on most irc clients
[01:30] <eilker> i need tux picture, as gif file , playing tux...
[01:30] <smart__> 2.20,...etc
[01:30] <gnomefreak> yep all they have to do is autojoin once most of time it will result in a ban. depends on the reason for remove
[01:30] <coty> well i get kicked for no reason
[01:30] <gnomefreak> smart__: edgy uses 2.6.17
[01:30] <gogeta> set irc_auto_rejoin 1
[01:30] <coty> were
[01:31] <smart__> gnomefreak, ok
[01:31] <gnomefreak> feisty uses 2.6.20
[01:31] <gogeta> just run that in xchat
[01:31] <gogeta> when you connect
[01:31] <smart__> gnomefreak,ok
[01:31] <coty> gogeta: im connected
[01:31] <gogeta> in the server windows
[01:32] <coty> gogeta: what server window
[01:32] <smart__> !bot >Mena
[01:32] <gogeta> same one you identifyu with nickserv
[01:32] <smart__> !bot >smart__
[01:32] <coty> ok
[01:32] <coty> then?
[01:33] <gogeta> http://mail.nl.linux.org/xchat-discuss/2002-11/msg00150.html
[01:33] <gogeta> thats how you can make it perm
[01:33] <coty> ok
[01:33] <gogeta> shows you what menus go where
[01:35] <Photon> where is the link to the commercial repost.?
[01:36] <Photon> anyone?
[01:36] <Photon> Admiral_Chicago: ?
[01:38] <the-killer> ...
[01:38] <smart__> Thanks
[01:38] <Photon> for?
[01:45] <coty> what app should i use for ftp
[01:47] <Vedo> coty you can use konquerror
[01:48] <coty> how
[01:49] <gigabytes> hello
[01:49] <gigabytes> I've installed kubuntu 6.10 on my PC
[01:49] <gigabytes> but
[01:49] <Vedo> remote address and add network folder
[01:49] <coty> ok
[01:49] <coty> good
[01:50] <coty> because i need to back up my site
[01:50] <gigabytes> I can't properly configure the audio card because I have two cards on my PC, a PCI sound blaster and the ICH5 integrated card
[01:50] <coty> before my site gets hacked
[01:50] <gigabytes> the kubuntu installation automatically configured the integrated card but I want to use the other one and exclude the ich5
[01:51] <chijin> gigabytes: disable the integrated card from bios
[01:51] <gigabytes> chijin: I want to use that card in windows
[01:51] <gigabytes> so I have to enable it in the bios
[01:52] <gigabytes> it isn't possible that there isn't a way to select which alsa device to use with artsd
[01:52] <gigabytes> or to avoid loading the ich5 audio module
[01:52] <coty> how do i use this
[01:53] <zak> anyone know of a risk clone i can play over the internet with a friend who is on windows?
[01:53] <zak> i guess there's a java one somewhere, but...
[01:55] <kumamoto> gigabytes: does lsmod show both sound card modules loaded?
[01:56] <gigabytes> kumamoto: yes
[01:56] <gigabytes> and I can set volumes and other things using kmix on each card
[01:56] <kumamoto> I guess you will have to disable the module you don't want
[01:56] <gigabytes> kumamoto: isn't there a way to select the default device used by artsd?
[01:58] <gigabytes> kumamoto: anyway can I disable the module in a graphical way?
[01:59] <kumamoto> most probably using the hardware configuration tool
[01:59] <kumamoto> i don't have kubuntu in front me currently but I think one of the hardware setting can do it for you
[02:00] <kumamoto> but disabling in the bios is the best which I know it isn't an option
[02:00] <gigabytes> kumamoto: currently the artsd kcontrol module doesn't allow to select the device
[02:01] <gigabytes> which I think is a bad missing
[02:02] <BluesKaj> I have an old 366mhz pc that still runs well on windows but the HDD is small. Is it true that the MoBo chipset restriction of 8G igs on HDD in windows doesn't apply with larger HDDs in linux ?
[02:02] <kumamoto> see if you can vi /etc/modules.conf file and comment out the module
[02:04] <kumamoto> or #sudo modprobe -r <module>
[02:06] <gigabytes> kumamoto: I've found this: http://andrew.org/index.php/archives/2006/11/29/kde-select-audio-device/
[02:13] <kumamoto> gigabytes: nice some of the comments also have good advice
[02:13] <kumamoto> I trying to think of that KMix thing but couldn't get it wrapped around my tiny head
[02:14] <kai> when you wine somthing, where do the files go so I can delete them?
[02:15] <itch_> Hello guys. I know this may actually sound lame, but I`m in a bit of trouble. I`m trying to mount a NTFS partition via fstab, so that all users from the "users" group can acceess it. So, in fstab file, my options are : auto,ro,gid=100 . But no good, because when I try to access the mounted nfts partiotion, I get "access denied". What did I do rong ?
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> itch_: umask=0222 should be in your options
[02:17] <kumamoto> 'access denied' huh? tried chaning ro -> rw (something has to be written when mounting it) I believe just my 2 c
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> itch_: i'd try it my ways, as it will actually work, no offense kumamoto
[02:17] <itch_> kumamoto : that it`s a NTFS partions. It can`t be written from linux.
[02:18] <Admiral_Chicago> way*
[02:20] <kai> does any one know where the files go when you wine them?
[02:20] <itch_> Admiral_Chicago : It worked. Thanxs dude. One more question, if I may: what umask=0222 stands for ?
[02:20] <Admiral_Chicago> no clue.
[02:20] <kumamoto> itch_: I believe so why mount it and can't write it
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> actually...i just woke up.
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> so I couldn't give you a complete answer
[02:21] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe after coffee :)
[02:21] <CarinArr> there are ways of writing to ntfs but as far as i know it's sort of beta and not there by default
[02:22] <kumamoto> ah
[02:22] <CarinArr> and there are plenty of reasons why you'd want to mount read only drives
[02:22] <kumamoto> crap I have been been giving crappy help here
[02:23] <itch_> CarinArr : From what I know, there`s a way to write ntfs partitions from linux. But you can`t actually write (e.g. creating new folders, files etc). You can only overwrite a file with another file of the exact same size.
[02:24] <thoreauputic> !ntfs-3g
[02:24] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[02:24] <kumamoto> ah for some reason I thought one could
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> kumamoto: well you certainly can, but to do it safely is another issue
[02:25] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl
[02:25] <thoreauputic> ntfs-3g appears to be OK for those who use it - I don't use any windows so I can't confirm that
[02:26] <CarinArr> umask=0222 means everyone can do everything apart from write (iirc)
[02:27] <itch_> CarinArr : Aha. I see. Thanks :)
[02:27] <kumamoto> phew thought I was going crazy
[02:28] <smart_> !fonts
[02:28] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:28] <smart_> !font
[02:30] <kumamoto> the ubotu link made it more clearer
[02:32] <SmL9> Hey when I try to ./configure wine it gives an error
[02:33] <smart_> !codec
[02:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:33] <smart_> !codecs
[02:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:33] <SmL9> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[02:37] <harmental> hey guys....
[02:37] <harmental> how can set order in which programs are loaded at startup?
[02:38] <SmL9> Hey when I try to ./configure wine it gives an error
[02:38] <SmL9>  "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[02:38] <apokryphos> SmL9: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> SmL9: you need build-essential package
[02:38] <Admiral_Chicago> most likely
[02:39] <SixieKiller> hey
[02:40] <SmL9> apokryphos: I have gcc
[02:40] <SixieKiller> i'm trying to use the update manager to update to 7.04 and i was wondering why i have to add the extra repository if i have kde 3.5.6
[02:40] <apokryphos> SmL9: doubtful, but you definitely don't have build-essential, which is what the FAQ tells you if you'd read it
[02:41] <dwidmann> SixieKiller: because that's where the shiny brand new updater program and some other modified programs/libs are
[02:41] <SmL9> apokryphos: Sorry but I can't see how that could help me...
[02:43] <SixieKiller> dwidmann: yeah, but if i don't have kde 3.5.6 i only add http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ but if i do i also have to add http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/?
[02:43] <apokryphos> SmL9: it solves your problem?
[02:43] <dwidmann> :s I'm not sure
[02:43] <SmL9> apokryphos: Hey it's quite a lot, it's going to take me a while to read
[02:44] <apokryphos> SmL9: ctrl+f -> compile
[02:44] <dwidmann> SixieKiller: guess I should check ...
[02:44] <SixieKiller> also, when i add the 2nd repositoy it adds a "junk" char to the sources.list and screwes it up, so i have to fix it manualy
[02:45] <SixieKiller> dwidmann: nah, it's ok... i was just wondering...
[02:45] <SixieKiller> thanks
[02:45] <SmL9> apokryphos: aha
[02:46] <SmL9> apokryphos: progress
[02:46] <SmL9> apokryphos: thanks
[02:46] <apokryphos> =)
[02:46] <BluesKaj> still can't figure why some apps/icons show in the taskbar after launch and not others...the settings lingo is so strange I don't know what a lot of them mean .
[02:46] <dwidmann> SixieKiller: I know without addint the gb.archive.ubuntu.com when I ran the updates I got some sort of error, something along the lines of a bzip2 error on one of the files like Packages.bz2 or something
[02:47] <dwidmann> (as in, I got that error from any other mirror)
[02:47] <SixieKiller> the first gb.* one is ok, i guess it's the one that holds the updater
[02:48] <SmL9> apokryphos: It took me a while to realize what you are saying... I've been using computers for ever but started with linux 2 days ago
[02:48] <SixieKiller> i dunno why the kde one is needed
[02:48] <smart_> !font
[02:48] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:49] <SixieKiller> welp... nevermind... let's hit the big "full upgrade" button
[02:50] <apokryphos> SmL9: no worries; just read through the FAQ and the documentation and you'll be good to go 8)
[02:50] <apokryphos> !docs
[02:50] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[02:52] <SmL9> apokryphos: Thanks for the help
[02:54] <BluesKaj> this panel taskbar is frustrating
[02:54] <crazy_penguin> Hello!
[02:55] <JuJuBee> Where are the settings stored for changes to teh kmenu?  I made a custom submenu and I wish to give it to all my students' accounts.
[02:57] <Appears> hi everybody :)
[02:58] <apokryphos> JuJuBee: probably ~/.kde/share/apps/kicker and ~/.kde/share/config/kicker*
[03:00] <joaquin> donde estan los espaoles
[03:00] <JuJuBee> apokryphos : so If I copy the entire .kde folder to their directories, that should cover it? or is that not good to do?
[03:01] <apokryphos> JuJuBee: well you'll be copying _all_ your kde settings, probably not what you want
[03:01] <apokryphos> just copying that folder and those two config files should really do it
[03:01] <apokryphos> * settings includes Mail, by the way
[03:02] <joaquin> os sabeis la pagina donde aya espaoles
[03:03] <apokryphos> !es
[03:03] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:03] <Appears> I got some question..I want to compile a 2.4.34 kernel under kubuntu...when I want to execute make  menuconfig , it tells me, "Unable to find the Ncurses libraries" I was searching on packets-ubuntu, for  the librariers, and i havent found a packet thats called ncurses..there are packets, wich have everytime some expansion in the name..means that, I have to download the whole packets?
[03:04] <Tm_T> ?
[03:04] <Tm_T> Admiral_Chicago: you should not wear silly hat
[03:05] <SixieKiller> dwidmann: humm.. i ran the upgrade, it downloaded a bunch of updates, and installed them
[03:06] <SixieKiller> but no dist upgrade thingie popped
[03:06] <dwidmann> SixieKiller: close it out, and do fetch updates
[03:06] <SixieKiller> yeah, i did fetch updates
[03:06] <SixieKiller> and ran the "full upgrade"
[03:06] <dwidmann> it's finicky to get it to run the first time
[03:07] <SixieKiller> when i do fetch updates again it shows no new updates
[03:07] <dwidmann> You have to upgrade, close adept, open adept, fetch updates
[03:07] <CarinArr> Appears: at a wild guess i'd say lib32ncurses5 (unless you're on a 64bit system)
[03:07] <CarinArr> Appears: possibly lib32ncurses5-dev as well
[03:07] <SixieKiller> ow, ok
[03:07] <SixieKiller> there it goes
[03:08] <CarinArr> actually libncurses5 and libncurses5-dev prbably
[03:11] <SixieKiller> wow... 900 updates
[03:11] <root___> Can u install kubuntu without cdrom or emulation?
[03:12] <mrigns> root___: why are u logged in as root?
[03:12] <root___> im transfereing my install from hda1 to hdb1
[03:12] <root___> so im in init1 atm
[03:13] <root___> a friend of mine wonders about the install.. i wonder how do i install grub on hdb1?
[03:13] <root___> about the kubuntu install that is
[03:13] <SixieKiller> has anyone tried installing ubuntu from a bootable usb?
[03:14] <root___> is it possible to install kubuntu from within windows?
[03:14] <root___> without emulation?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> nope
[03:15] <root___> ok
[03:15] <root___> can vmware use a real partition?
[03:15] <SixieKiller> yea
[03:15] <root___> cool
[03:16] <root___> thanks
[03:16] <root___> cya
[03:16] <SixieKiller> you'll see it when you configure a new hd for the virtual machine
[03:18] <BluesKaj> partitioning the HDD for linux and linux-swap and ntfs if you prefer to dual boot windows and Linux , is your best bet bet . just running the install cd right out of the box is a hit a miss prprosition unless you've done it before and know what choices to make
[03:21] <SixieKiller> do i need the linux-swap partition even if i have lots of ram?
[03:21] <JuJuBee> apokryphos : doesn't appear to be the place...  Can't find any reference to the new folder I just created in the kmenu.
[03:21] <BluesKaj> I'ts always good too have a swap of at leasy 500MB
[03:22] <BluesKaj> least
[03:23] <SixieKiller> but if, for example, i have 4 gigs of ram on a x86 box
[03:23] <SixieKiller> will the swap ever be utilised?
[03:24] <CarinArr> heh
[03:24] <CarinArr> i have 2 gigs of ram on this machine and still haven't gone into swap once
[03:24] <dwidmann> SixieKiller: possibly, seeing as all of the RAM will eventually be used for a massive high-speed cache, but I doubt you'd need more than about, oh, 20mb of swap...
[03:27] <JuJuBee> Anybody know why the kde configuration wizard comes up every time I log into kde?  I have run the wizard several times.
[03:34] <kumamoto> mplayer is far much cpu intensive than vlc huh
[03:35] <VSpike> Does anyone else find Konqueror too slow for use as a file manager, or is it just me (or my system)?
[03:35] <kumamoto> might be u
[03:36] <kumamoto> konqueror works wonders on my laptop
[03:36] <VSpike> How long does it take to open?
[03:36] <kumamoto> fast too
[03:36] <kumamoto> flash
[03:36] <VSpike> What's the spec?
[03:37] <kumamoto> hardware spec
[03:37] <VSpike> yah
[03:38] <kumamoto> 1.6GHZ 512MB 60GB HDD
[03:41] <ubuntu> hmmm
[03:41] <CarinArr> VSpike: i don't have problems with it being slow.. i have problems with it refusing to work online in feisty but none apart from that;)
[03:43] <ubuntu> this is a nice OS
[03:43] <VSpike> kumamoto: thx. Hm. Mine is X2 4400+, 2GB
[03:44] <VSpike> takes about 5 seconds to open and be fully ready
[03:44] <SixieKiller>  maybe you have network drives?
[03:44] <VSpike> SixieKiller: nope
[03:45] <CarinArr> takes about a second and a half for me on first startup
[03:45] <VSpike> Thats to open the "Conquer your desktop" holding page, not a file view
[03:45] <VSpike> bout the same to open home directory
[03:46] <VSpike> Wierd.  This is after I've just closed it too, so you'd expect it all to still be in cache, with 2G of RAM
[03:47] <CarinArr> that is pretty odd
[03:47] <VSpike> Yeah
[03:47] <VSpike> Machine does seem a bit slow tbh
[03:48] <SixieKiller> which version of kubuntu do you have?
[03:48] <VSpike> edgy
[03:48] <SixieKiller> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/64325
[03:48] <SixieKiller> check this one out
[03:49] <dickdastardly> is there anything I should chek to find out why my sound doesn't work? I've tried all the volume controls, but it doesn't seem to work still.
[03:49] <SixieKiller> seems that both of the guys with the problem also had 64bit cpus
[03:50] <mart81> is there a setting somewhere for resetting file permissions on flash keys?
[03:50] <SixieKiller> dickdastardly: was your sound system detected?
[03:50] <SixieKiller> try running lspci and see if it's there
[03:51] <dickdastardly> the mixer window shows it as an intel ICH6. it's a laptop with an intel chipset, so I expect that to be about right
[03:52] <dickdastardly> lscpi shows it as the same
[03:53] <SixieKiller> dickdastardly: ok, let's try something
[03:53] <SixieKiller> go to applications -> Sound and Video -> Volume Control
[03:54] <VSpike> SixieKiller: interesting.  It's not exactly that, but may be related.  That seems to be a dual core problem
[03:54] <SixieKiller> dickdastardly: you know what? ignore that
[03:54] <VSpike> I do get a strange keyboard repeat problem sometimes as well, and I notice a similar but not the same keyboard problem is also mentions in that trhead
[03:54] <SixieKiller> simply try openning the mixer and kill the "external amplifier"
[03:55] <SixieKiller> VSpike: well... it's an opportunity to try the upgrade manager and switch to 7.04 :)
[03:55] <VSpike> SixieKiller: hehe
[03:56] <VSpike> What happened to "if you need a stable system, feisty is not for you?"
[03:56] <SixieKiller> VSpike: well.. would you define your system as stable?
[03:56] <VSpike> Slow and stable is probably better for me ... I use this system every day for work.  It's just annoying.
[03:56] <VSpike> Yes, pretty much
[03:57] <SixieKiller> well, if you use it from daily work, leave it alone
[03:57] <SixieKiller> *for
[03:57] <VSpike> It rarely does things to prevent me working
[03:57] <VSpike> Xorg locks up now and then, and I occasionally have to reboot to get rid of that keyboard problem
[03:57] <Ace2016> hi all
[03:58] <VSpike> I'm running binary nvidia driver, and vmware kernel modules, so probably asking for trouble anyway :)
[03:58] <Ace2016> any secure delete apps for xfs and ext3?
[03:58] <SixieKiller> ow... i hate nvidia
[03:58] <Ace2016> i love nvidia
[03:58] <VSpike> funny.. most people hate ati :)
[03:58] <Ace2016> and people using ati hate nvidia because they envy them
[03:58] <fdoving> Ace2016: /usr/bin/shred, it's in coreutils.
[03:59] <dickdastardly> right, Ext Amplifier gone, sound still absent
[03:59] <VSpike> ati have better midrange cards at the moment, but the position swaps regularly
[03:59] <Ace2016> fdoving: thanks
[03:59] <VSpike> different for linux though
[03:59] <fdoving> Ace2016: i have a nice .desktop file you can put on your desktop to have a nice "shredder" to drop files to shred at.. i'll try to find it for you. hang on.
[04:00] <VSpike> I thought shred was not guaranteed to work with journalling file systems?  I assumed that was what the original question was about
[04:01] <fdoving> VSpike: the -shred- will work. but it does not guarantee that the journal doesn't hold parts of the file contents.
[04:01] <fdoving> VSpike: that goes for swap too.
[04:01] <mart81> i experience file permissions resets after mounting a usb disk, is this new in feisty?
[04:01] <dickdastardly> I must admit, having a desktop environment is a lot different to my xbox
[04:01] <VSpike> fdoving: ahh.. thanks for the clarification
[04:02] <fdoving> VSpike: to completely securely delete everything, you will need to shred the journal, and the swap space too.
[04:02] <VSpike> fdoving: or other more physically destructive methods :)
[04:02] <Ace2016> fdoving: it says that shred doesn't work on xfs and ext3 " The following are examples of file systems on which shred is not effective, or is not guaranteed to be effective in all file system modes:  log-structured or journalled file systems, such as those supplied with AIX and Solaris (and JFS, ReiserFS, XFS, Ext3, etc.)
[04:03] <fdoving> Ace2016: exactly, because the journal might contain parts of the files.
[04:03] <VSpike> Can anyone advise me if I could use a local IMAP server to store about 800Meg of email in about 100 folders?
[04:04] <VSpike> What are the practical limits on it?  Would that be usable?
[04:04] <fdoving> yes, why not.
[04:04] <fdoving> there are no practical limits of imap-servers.
[04:04] <VSpike> fdoving: whenever I've used a third party imap server, the performance has sucked.. even with small amounts of mail.  I wasn't sure if that was a general problem, or just bad implementation
[04:05] <fdoving> VSpike: probably a bad implementation, i work with a remote imap-server, got ~30 folders with everything from a few houndred mails to ~50 000.
[04:06] <Edulix> hi
[04:06] <Edulix> it's me or idsoftware.com is not working ?
[04:06] <JuJuBee> What file perms *should * I use on the server for my students on their home folders?  I want them to have secure doc
[04:07] <JuJuBee> 's
[04:07] <JuJuBee> but also allow web access to their public_html folders
[04:07] <fdoving> Ace2016: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/shredder.desktop - you need kgpg installed for it to work.
[04:07] <VSpike> fdoving: ah okay thanks.. that's good.  I'm stuck with VMWare + XP + Outlook at the moment, love to ditch it.  That seems like a good way to get the data out of Outlook, by copying to local IMAP server.  Would also make mail easily accesible by remote ssh, and from my work laptop.
[04:07] <fdoving> JuJuBee: 711 on the homefolders maybe?
[04:08] <JuJuBee> should the group be same as owner?
[04:08] <JuJuBee> then change group of public_html to www-data?
[04:08] <VSpike> fdoving: I also need to keep the VMWare setup to sync a pocket PC, but that way Outlook will still be able to see the mail too, so if it's practical it should work well
[04:08] <sandro__> hi all .. this might be offtopic .. i cant do vpn from my university (i suspect the firewall blocking ports) ... is it possible to "tunnel" vpn connections through ssh ?! (i could connect a linux box)
[04:09] <VSpike> I think I'll need to use a local LDAP server for the contacts/address book, because outlook can use those too
[04:09] <fdoving> JuJuBee: depends on your needs. you should not change the group of public_html to www-data, the files should be owned by the users and not writeable by the www-data user running apache.
[04:09] <VSpike> sandro__: why not just tunnel whatever you want to run through vpn through ssh?
[04:10] <VSpike> sandro__: vpn via ssh would be overkill.  Also, I don't think it would be possible using normal tcp tunneling because most vpn protocols use non-tcp packets
[04:10] <fdoving> you can tunnel anything though ssh with netcat or similar tools.
[04:10] <VSpike> then again, ssh keeps suprising me with all the neat stuff it does that I never knew about so I wouldn't be suprised to learn there's a neat trick
[04:11] <JuJuBee> fdoving : so 711 on ~ and ~/public_html ? or 715 on ~/public_html
[04:11] <sandro__> cause i need to get a lan ip .. i need to connect here and and there .. and we have a test.our.domain.de there so my first thought was/is get vpn running like i have at home (where i can define which ports are open)
[04:11] <fdoving> JuJuBee: 711 on ~ and 755 on ~/public_html would probably be OK.
[04:12] <fdoving> JuJuBee: maybe 700 on ~/docs or somehting.
[04:12] <JuJuBee> I don't want other users to be able to open/browse someone else's docs...
[04:12] <JuJuBee> I see...
[04:12] <harmental> does anybody know how make Konversation (or any program for that matters) to be minimized as amarok?
[04:12] <VSpike> fdoving: netcat looks great!  Another great tool i must remember
[04:12] <JuJuBee> dont store docs in ~, create a subfolder with strict perms...
[04:13] <fdoving> JuJuBee: http://www.faqs.org/docs/linux_intro/sect_03_04.html
[04:14] <Ace2016> fdoving: so you mean as long as the jornal doesn't contain part of the file and i use shred then it will securely delete it?
[04:14] <JuJuBee> thanks
[04:15] <fdoving> Ace2016: yes, except shred doesn't delete by default, it just overwrite the contents. 'man shred' or '#shred' in kmenu -> run command. to read more about it.
[04:16] <JuJuBee> I know how to set perms and what the numbers mean, I just don't know what they should be set to... What do people usually set them to?  Ubuntu creates a user and adds that user to the group called users.  Then changes the group on all users home dirs to users.  Do people usually change the group to be same as owner for home dirs?
[04:18] <smart_> Hi
[04:18] <smart_> Why when i do this sensors i ge this
[04:18] <smart_> Can't access procfs/sysfs file
[04:18] <smart_> Unable to find i2c bus information;
[04:18] <smart_> For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and libsensors
[04:18] <smart_> was compiled with sysfs support!
[04:18] <smart_> For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'!
[04:19] <mart81> anybody knows about ssh keys and too wide file persmissions every time you remount?
[04:20] <mart81> it's disturbing me seriously
[04:20] <Apollo^101> i messed with themes. i want to have the default theme of kde in kubuntu. how can i do it?
[04:20] <Ace2016> fdoving: i think i'll shread all the disks and just start again
[04:20] <VSpike> what was I saying about "stable"? :)
[04:21] <busfahrer> Excuse me, somehow the OpenGL portion of my system has developed a crash habit. Now the question is, how do I deactivate my screensaver without going into the Screensaver window, because that makes X crash.
[04:21] <sonoftheclayr> Apollo^101: can you access the appearance settings from system settings?
[04:22] <smart_> any idea how to solve this porblem
[04:22] <smart_> with sensors
[04:23] <sonoftheclayr> busfahrer: the only thing i can think of is to delete or change the config file, i don't know what it is or where it is but i can find out
[04:23] <Apollo^101> sonoftheclayr,  yes. but i dont know which theme was the default one. i have tried all and no one is getting me to the previous
[04:23] <smart_> !sensors
[04:24] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:25] <sonoftheclayr> Apollo^101: someone help me out here, the default theme is plastik? widgets and window decorations is crystal
[04:25] <Apollo^101> yes
[04:25] <Apollo^101> sonoftheclayr, yes. but its not getting to the previous. totally i mean\
[04:26] <sonoftheclayr> Apollo^101: delete the config files if it really bugs you that much
[04:26] <dickdastardly> anybody ever used xebian?
[04:26] <sonoftheclayr> Apollo^101: what doesn't change
[04:26] <VSpike> OK memo to self.. don't run that program
[04:27] <Apollo^101> sonoftheclayr, mouse. some othere effects
[04:27] <Apollo^101> sonoftheclayr, how to del conf files? what will happen if i do
[04:27] <VSpike> That's annoying.  Since the xorg upgrade, projectM crashes my x server
[04:28] <sonoftheclayr> Apollo^101: i had a bit of a look and couldn't find any specific theme related files, the best bet is to delete the .kde file in your home directory (make a backup first) but that will also delete the settings for all your kde apps
[04:28] <VSpike> Are there any general benchmarking programs for kubuntu?
[04:28] <Apollo^101> sonoftheclayr, the default theme is plastic. not kde classic? and appearence is crystal?
[04:29] <VSpike> Takes up to 10 seconds around to open firefox, and load Google.
[04:29] <ignacio_> buenas
[04:29] <sonoftheclayr> Apollo^101: yeah styles plastic and window decorations is crystal (for edgy anyway)
[04:29] <VSpike> Takes about 5 or 6 seconds to start konsole, till the prompt appears
[04:30] <dickdastardly> i take it kubunto is quicker installed than running from the live CD?
[04:30] <nixternal> Apollo^101: whatever you do, do not delete ~/.kde
[04:31] <Apollo^101> nixternal, why
[04:31] <VSpike> CPU is not loaded - idling at nearly zero.  And moving stuff around the screen, maximising and minimising, switching windows, is all fast enough
[04:31] <nixternal> you can remove config files, and upon restarting they will get autocreated
[04:31] <VSpike> dickdastardly: yes
[04:31] <nixternal> Apollo^101: that is your entire KDE settings directory
[04:31] <kristjan_> I have troubles with https://launchpad.net/ menu navigation with konqueror
[04:31] <nixternal> you will loose all settings for 1, and 2 regeneration doesn't always work
[04:31] <nixternal> kristjan_: what kind of issues, i use LP daily with konqui
[04:32] <Apollo^101> nixternal, what the hell should i do now. i cant go to the default settings
[04:32] <Apollo^101> plastic theme and crystall appearince. not giving exact
[04:32] <nixternal> Apollo^101: what is the issue really quick?
[04:32] <PhinnFort> how can i make (k)ubuntu load a module automatically when it boots?
[04:32] <kristjan_> nixternal: I can't understand how should I click on them. they tend to disappear
[04:32] <PhinnFort> now i currently have to modprobe prism54pci whenever i get in
[04:32] <sonoftheclayr> nixternal: i did say that and i did mention back it up. it is the quick, easy and blunt solution to fix problems in kde you more than likely made
[04:32] <Apollo^101> nixternal, i messed with thmes. now i want the defualt one.
[04:32] <Apollo^101> plastic theme and crystall appearince. not giving exact
[04:32] <nixternal> ahhh
[04:33] <nixternal> Apollo^101: can't you just change it via system settings?
[04:33] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: whatever happened to your "Default" button?
[04:33] <nixternal> ya
[04:33] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: lower left corner of the screen, "Defaults"
[04:34] <Apollo^101> nixternal, yes. but it doesnt goes exact as previous. mouse different. some other things and if it hit default. all the font goes 10 time biger with every thing black mode
[04:34] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: you want the visual defaults?
[04:34] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: hit alt+f2 and type in "kcontrol"
[04:34] <PhinnFort> hit enter
[04:35] <PhinnFort> under "appearance and themes" find Theme Manager
[04:35] <soulrider> hi everyone
[04:35] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort, yes. ok
[04:35] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: it should change everything
[04:36] <PhinnFort> ok?
[04:36] <PhinnFort> and now, i wonder how to make the init scripts load the "prism54pci" module automagically when I boot
[04:36] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort,  i did that manually by the control center. no use
[04:37] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: did you go to the control center, theme manager, click a theme and hit "ok"?
[04:37] <Mena> What that suppose to mean FATAL: Module i2c_sensor not found.
[04:37] <Mena> ??
[04:37] <PhinnFort> Mena: in what program?
[04:37] <Mena> sensors problem
[04:37] <PhinnFort> Mena: it looks like a kernel module isn't available
[04:38] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort, yes
[04:38] <Mena> but i am using 2.6
[04:38] <PhinnFort> Mena: it should be ignored by the program, since it probably is compiled directly in
[04:38] <PhinnFort> Mena: what program is giving you that fatal error?
[04:38] <Mena> PhinnFort, i did that command $ sudo modprobe i2c-sensor
[04:38] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort, is there a way to reconfigure all things. ?
[04:39] <Mena> according to ubuntu help page
[04:39] <PhinnFort> Mena: well, the help page is outdated
[04:39] <PhinnFort> obviously
[04:39] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: what do you mean by "all things"?
[04:39] <Mena> hmmmm so what can i do
[04:39] <jacknn> hello everybody. i need some help with connecting to the net. i have a working connection using the wireless manager but i can't connect through network settings. (it's a laptop)
[04:39] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: you can change the name of the hidden ".kde" directory in your home, and login again
[04:40] <PhinnFort> that should reset pretty much everything
[04:40] <Mena> PhinnFort, it seems to be smilar to my prob if you remeber :)
[04:40] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort, wait
[04:40] <PhinnFort> Mena: hum?
[04:40] <Mena> a bout conectting to net
[04:40] <PhinnFort> ah
[04:41] <Mena> but finaly i did a clean installtion :)
[04:41] <PhinnFort> it works now?
[04:41] <Mena> yes ..strange haa
[04:41] <PhinnFort> Mena: yeah, you must've messed up something seriously :P
[04:41] <Mena> no i dont think so
[04:41] <busfahre1> Excuse me, somehow the OpenGL portion of my system has developed a crash habit. Now the question is, how do I deactivate my screensaver without going into the Screensaver window, because that makes X crash.
[04:41] <Mena> or maybe
[04:41] <Mena> in any way
[04:42] <Mena> what can i do in that sensors prob ?
[04:42] <PhinnFort> Mena: can you do a "modprobe -l | grep i2c"?
[04:42] <Mena> ok
[04:42] <PhinnFort> busfahre1: you can delete the settings file
[04:42] <busfahre1> PhinnFort: Which one?
[04:43] <Mena> !pastebin
[04:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:43] <PhinnFort> busfahre1: i'll track it down for you, ok?
[04:43] <busfahre1> PhinnFort: That'd be great
[04:43] <Mena> PhinnFort, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13886/
[04:44] <Mena> PhinnFort, when i was usong fiesty it was working
[04:44] <Mena> PhinnFort, using*
[04:44] <PhinnFort> Mena: try to just skip that step in the help, ok?
[04:44] <brzeszczot> hello
[04:44] <Mena> PhinnFort, ok
[04:45] <PhinnFort> busfahre1: see in the #kde channel
[04:45] <brzeszczot> i have problem with wine
[04:45] <PhinnFort> good you're finally admitting it
[04:45] <PhinnFort> that's the first step
[04:46] <Mena> PhinnFort, ok but  about what step ?
[04:46] <Mena> PhinnFort, last one
[04:46] <Mena> or what
[04:46] <PhinnFort> Mena: what are you following?
[04:46] <Mena> PhinnFort, now nothing :D
[04:47] <PhinnFort> who told you to do that modprobing?
[04:47] <Mena> PhinnFort, you !
[04:47] <bal> Halo, Ich habe folgendes Problem. Ich habe Desktop gendert(KDE)  ,aber Will ich  in Deutsche Sprache bleiben.?gibst dafr eine Lsung
[04:48] <PhinnFort> Mena: when?
[04:48] <PhinnFort> !de bal
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about de bal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <PhinnFort> !de | bal
[04:48] <ubotu> bal: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:49] <jhutchins> Mena: You installed the lmsensors package?
[04:51] <PhinnFort> is there a domino package available for Kubuntu somewhere?
[04:51] <kristjan__> to make things clear - http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1877/snapshot7xd8.png  I'm talking about this menu navigation
[04:51] <PhinnFort> !compile
[04:51] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:52] <Mena_> PhinnFort, sorry i was disconected
[04:52] <Mena_> PhinnFort, what last line you see from me ? :)
[04:52] <PhinnFort> Mena_: happens to me all the time...
[04:52] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort,  http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/2529/snapshot2ss1.jpg the mouse is now black. it was white by default. the names at right are now one in white stip and other in black. font size of icons is changed. many other changes. of size of windows and settings.    is there a way to make every thing back to default . or reconfigure.
[04:52] <kristjan__> PhinnFort: install kdebase-dev for a start
[04:52] <Mena_> PhinnFort, ok :)
[04:52] <PhinnFort> [16:47]  <Mena> PhinnFort, you !
[04:52] <Mena_> PhinnFort, ok
[04:52] <jhutchins> Mena: You installed the lmsensors package?
[04:53] <PhinnFort> [16:39]  <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: you can change the name of the hidden ".kde" directory in your home, and login again
[04:53] <Mena_> PhinnFort, from sensors i get this ((((( Can't access procfs/sysfs file Unable to find i2c bus information; For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and libsensors was compiled with sysfs support! For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'! ))))
[04:53] <Mena_> jhutchins, i did
[04:53] <Mena_> jhutchins, and i also installes some libs
[04:53] <PhinnFort> kristjan__: ?
[04:53] <Mena_> installed*
[04:53] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort, which name should i change .kde to?
[04:53] <PhinnFort> Apollo^101: just "kde" maybe
[04:53] <PhinnFort> so you can easily copy over config files again
[04:53] <PhinnFort> that you want back
[04:53] <kristjan__> PhinnFort: for compiling stuff (kde themes)
[04:54] <Apollo^101> PhinnFort, what will it do
[04:54] <PhinnFort> kristjan__: i know;)
[04:54] <jhutchins> Mena: Did you run the sensors-detect script?
[04:54] <Mena_> yes
[04:54] <Mena_> and i answer all by yes
[04:55] <jhutchins> Mena: Did it create /etc/init.d/lm_sensors?
[04:55] <PhinnFort> !domino
[04:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about domino - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <PhinnFort> the ubuntu wiki page on compiling should be updated with info on CMake, the future today
[04:56] <Mena_> jhutchins, no i didnt
[04:57] <Mena_> jhutchins, OHH SORRY
[04:57] <Mena_> jhutchins, i dont know
[04:57] <jhutchins> Mena: Look.
[04:57] <Mena_> jhutchins, but it ask me to add some lines
[04:57] <Mena_> and i said yes
[04:58] <jhutchins> Right, that was creating the aliases in modprobe.
[04:58] <jhutchins> you should now have /etc/init.d/lm-sensors.
[04:58] <Mena_> ok
[04:58] <Mena_> So why it didnt work !
[04:58] <jhutchins> sudo /etc/init.d/lm-sensors restart
[04:59] <Mena_> ok
[04:59] <Mena_>  Setting sensors limits...                                             [fail] 
[04:59] <jhutchins> Not a real problem...
[04:59] <Mena_> OK
[04:59] <jhutchins> Mena: sensors
[05:00] <PhinnFort> what is the default widget style for kubuntu feisty?
[05:00] <Mena_> Can't access procfs/sysfs file
[05:00] <Mena_> Unable to find i2c bus information;
[05:00] <Mena_> For 2.6 kernels, make sure you have mounted sysfs and libsensors
[05:00] <Mena_> was compiled with sysfs support!
[05:00] <Mena_> For older kernels, make sure you have done 'modprobe i2c-proc'!
[05:00] <Mena_> POLYESTER*
[05:01] <PhinnFort> ok
[05:01] <jhutchins> Sigh.
[05:02] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: you tired?
[05:02] <harmental> hi...can anybody try to play this: http://espectador.com/_dyn/mediaNode/go.php?SID=&id=91541
[05:02] <harmental> feedbacks are more than welcome....
[05:02] <Chr1831> hi
[05:02] <Chr1831> how come when i save my menu none of the changes take affect?
[05:02] <jhutchins> Mena_: Your motherboard is not fully compatible with the version of lm-sensors you have installed.  You can work through the sensors detect script and sensors documentation to try to get the correct settings for your chipset; you will need to use google to find specific details.  You can also try reinstalling lm-sensors, and making sure your kernel and sensors packages are up to date.
[05:03] <sh4rk0> hello
[05:03] <sh4rk0> #kubuntu_fr
[05:03] <Mena_> jhutchins, ok and i have a previous ner of kernel since last updtae coulb be that  the prob
[05:03] <Mena_> version*
[05:04] <Mena_> update*
[05:04] <jhutchins> Yes.
[05:04] <Mena_> and i am using the last one
[05:04] <Mena_> ok i will remove it
[05:04] <jhutchins> Mena_: You can have multiple kernels, just add the new one.
[05:05] <Mena_> jhutchins, i am using it or what you mean by add
[05:05] <sh4rk0> sorry, we here is url of channel kubuntu french ?
[05:05] <Chr1831> any help for me?
[05:05] <sh4rk0> sorry for my english
[05:06] <Mena_> !fr >sh4rk0
[05:06] <Mena_> !fr
[05:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:06] <mackie> #ubuntu-pl
[05:06] <bronze_1_9> heh
[05:06] <bronze_1_9> no #ubuntu-fr?
[05:06] <mackie> ops sorry yeh
[05:07] <PhinnFort> #ubuntu-no
[05:07] <PhinnFort> since we're doing advertising
[05:07] <sh4rk0> thks :)
[05:08] <zak> on 7.04, i'm getting errors when i try to install some things - 404's on stuff like libgamin0... is it likely that this would be a temporary thing, fixed by an apt-get update and re-trying?
[05:09] <Chr1831> how come when i save my menu none of the changes take affect?, ive saved it a dozen times and still no changes :-\
[05:09] <Mena_> Chr1831, your kicker
[05:09] <Chr1831> whats wrong with my kicker?
[05:10] <Mena_> Chr1831,  i am asking
[05:10] <Chr1831> if kicker = menu then yes
[05:10] <Mena_> Chr1831,  in any way ty this killall kicker then do kicker
[05:10] <Mena_> in terminal :)
[05:10] <clau85> hi all. got a problem: in which boot file do I have to write in order to run a command as root. I have to do a "chmod 666 /dev/null" everytime I (re)start my computer
[05:11] <Chr1831> how do i kill all kicker?
[05:11] <Chr1831> and this has happened to me no matter how many times i reboot :-\
[05:11] <Mena_> no no no
[05:11] <Mena_> Chr1831, ohhh ok
[05:12] <Chr1831> i am running kubuntu 7.04
[05:12] <Mena_> Chr1831, so you dont mean your kicker i dont know ;-\ but if you mean editting the panles and the kicker menus i do commmands i give you
[05:13] <Mena_> Chr1831, for 7.04 use ubuntu +1
[05:13] <Mena_> Chr1831, #ubuntu +1
[05:13] <Chr1831> ubuntu +1?
[05:13] <Mena_> Chr1831, for 7.04 use ubuntu+1
[05:13] <Mena_> Chr1831, sorry :)
[05:13] <Mena_> Chr1831, this for beta versions
[05:13] <Mena_> Chr1831, and for kubuntu and ubuntu
[05:14] <Chr1831> where is the kicker menu config?
[05:15] <Mena_> i gues your (home/$user$/.kde/conf
[05:15] <Mena_> i gues your then search for it as i guess
[05:15] <Mena_> i am not sure
[05:17] <VSpike> Aren't those free smiley ads so cute?  I love those little guys. Hey look, a little soldier!  And a red guy!  Haha. that one's sticking his tongue out!
[05:19] <Mena_> !install
[05:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:22] <Mena_> How to renistall plz
[05:22] <Mena_> what is the option
[05:22] <SixieKiller> uh... simply install it again?
[05:23] <Mena_> no
[05:23] <Mena_> bec its telling me its the newest ver ...etc
[05:23] <Mena_> and i want to renistall it i guess there is a command
[05:23] <jaevel> Hi All
[05:24] <SixieKiller> you want to reinstall ubuntu, right?
[05:24] <Mena_> Thanks i get it form man
[05:24] <Mena_> no no
[05:24] <Mena_> an app
[05:24] <SixieKiller> ow...
[05:24] <Mena_> from*
[05:24] <SixieKiller> well, you can apt-get remove xyz and install it again
[05:24] <Mena_> yes
[05:25] <Mena_> :)
[05:25] <jaevel> can any1 tell me why i cant re-install kubuntu-desktop from my cdrom?
[05:25] <VSpike> or apt-get install --reinstall
[05:25] <Mena_> ok
[05:27] <jaevel> i get the error package has no candidate
[05:27] <lara> hey all
[05:27] <jaevel> hi
[05:27] <Mena_> Thanks :)
[05:27] <jaevel> please anyone?
[05:28] <Mena_> jaevel, you cant install it from the cd
[05:28] <jaevel> oh? thats what i was told to do last night?
[05:28] <jaevel> how do i get the network card to work again?
[05:28] <Mena_> jaevel, try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:29] <jaevel> cant network card is not working anymore
[05:29] <Mena_> but this will use your conection
[05:29] <Mena_> hmmm
[05:29] <jaevel> i tried sudo apt-cdrom to add cdrom
[05:29] <luis__> kubuntu-es
[05:29] <jaevel> but i dont know what to install for eth0
[05:30] <luis__> http:/kubuntu-ees
[05:30] <luis__> please
[05:30] <Mena_> jaevel, you Netcard normally reconginze by ubuntu/kuuntu
[05:31] <VSpike> !es | luis__
[05:31] <ubotu> luis__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:31] <jaevel> yes, was working fine untill i uninstalled cups and other tcp stuff...
[05:31] <Mena_> jaevel, hmmm ok so ask any one else :)
[05:31] <jaevel> now on config screen, i dont see the eth0 anymore
[05:32] <jaevel> you dont know??
[05:32] <Mena> Sorry :)
[05:32] <jaevel> ahh, thanks for the help!
[05:32] <erikja> !k3b | erikja
[05:32] <SixieKiller> jaevel: try "ifconfig eth0 up"
[05:32] <Mena> never mind
[05:32] <SixieKiller> wild guess :)
[05:33] <Mena> jhutchins, hey
[05:33] <jaevel> ok.. let me try real quick....
[05:33] <Mena> jhutchins, my hhdtemp senosr is working ...i sthat strange or naormal
[05:33] <Mena> normal*
[05:34] <jaevel> i get file not found ifconfig? whats the path?
[05:34] <aaroncampbell> How do I format a drive as a single partition?
[05:34] <fdoving> jaevel: /sbin/ifconfig
[05:34] <jaevel> ty!
[05:34] <SixieKiller> humm... now that's weird
[05:34] <jhutchins> Mena: Sounds about right, it sounds like a part of the package isn't working - there are usually two chips in the set, and you might have half of it working.
[05:34] <Mena> jhutchins, hmmm ok
[05:35] <jhutchins> jaevel: Any time you're doing some thign that affects the system you'll need to use sudo.
[05:35] <jhutchins> !sudo | jaevel
[05:35] <ubotu> jaevel: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:35] <jhutchins> !kdesu | jaevel
[05:35] <ubotu> jaevel: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:36] <luis__> hola
[05:36] <luis__> algien me podria ayudar con una particion de ntfs
[05:37] <jaevel> i still cannot find /sbin/ifconfig??
[05:37] <jaevel> i used command sudo /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up
[05:38] <SixieKiller> jaevel: i suspect that something bad happened to your system
[05:38] <jaevel> oh no!!!
[05:38] <jaevel> no way to recover?
[05:38] <SixieKiller> "ls / -la"  looks normal?
[05:39] <jaevel> never done that what would it show?
[05:39] <jaevel> whats -la?
[05:39] <SixieKiller> the directory structure of your root dir
[05:39] <jaevel> ahh, hold...
[05:39] <dromer> gaahh, I have a big video-clip database from VJing, but it's all encoded in midvid, and now I can't use the clips under linux, does anybody know how I could play them again? :(
[05:39] <SixieKiller> -l is for list, that is - show all of it in a list
[05:39] <SixieKiller> and -a is for 'all'
[05:39] <SixieKiller> you see more than 10 dirs?
[05:40] <jaevel> yes
[05:40] <jaevel> it boots into desktop...
[05:40] <SixieKiller> hum..
[05:40] <jaevel> thats where am now...
[05:40] <SixieKiller> try "find /sbin | grep ifconfig"
[05:40] <jaevel> ok... hold...
[05:41] <VSpike> jaevel: also try "dpkg-query -s net-tools"
[05:42] <jaevel> find found nothing...
[05:42] <jaevel> ok, 1 min VSpike...
[05:43] <VSpike> jaevel: interested in the second line - "Status"
[05:44] <jaevel> says "Purge ok not installed"
[05:44] <VSpike> jaevel: oops :)
[05:44] <SixieKiller> heh
[05:44] <jaevel> can i get it back?
[05:45] <jaevel> am i done?
[05:45] <VSpike> jaevel: you should be able to install packages manually from CD
[05:45] <jaevel> i tried, but it will not load anything from cd.. well at least maybe i dont know what pkg to install
[05:46] <jaevel> all i know is to sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:46] <jaevel> that works when the net is running?
[05:46] <jpetso> can anybody tell me how I can share some directory just with simple read access, no password prompt for the computers that want to access the share?
[05:46] <luis__> aqui tienen mas canales en espaol?
[05:47] <jpetso> i just don't seem to grasp all that Samba stuff
[05:47] <VSpike> jaevel: you need to find the package on the CD.  Something like: find /media/cdrom -iname 'net-tools*'
[05:48] <jaevel> i need net-tools install then... is that the pkg name? can i sudo apt-get install net-tools?
[05:48] <VSpike> jaevel: you could try that, if your CDROM is set as a source
[05:49] <VSpike> !es | luis__
[05:49] <ubotu> luis__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:49] <jaevel> let me try...
[05:51] <BluesKaj> Is it necessary to have kubuntu-desktop installed if one already has the latest KDE ?... I wish the Fiesty test site was clearer on the subject
[05:51] <jaevel> is there a shortcut (mirc) for the jaevel:?? or do i just have to type is out...?
[05:51] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: i don't think so
[05:52] <jaevel> hmm
[05:52] <VSpike> jaevel: you're using mirc?
[05:52] <jaevel> yes
[05:52] <VSpike> In pretty much every client ever, you just type the first letter or two and hit tab
[05:53] <jaevel> ahh, got it.. thanks!
[05:53] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: they have had a feature freeze, haven?t they?
[05:53] <BluesKaj> I'm looking at upgrading to fiesty in a few weeks when the official release is ready and I don't wany any broken pkges due to some oversight on their part
[05:53] <jaevel> VSpike: i dont think it want to load anything from the cdrom?
[05:53] <lara> Is Kmail able to receive my yahoo mails?
[05:53] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: i think you need kubuntu-desktop installed to upgrade
[05:54] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: use the app in the topic
[05:54] <PF-Away> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[05:54] <lara> s Kmail able to receive my yahoo mails?
[05:54] <BluesKaj> doesn't KDE contain kubuntu-desktop ?
[05:55] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: kubuntu-desktop is, afaik, just a meta-package depending on all the applications needed for a fully functional KDE desktop, as the kubuntu devs see it
[05:55] <BluesKaj> PF-Away ...that's why I'm asking ...I was checking out the app in the "topic" ...that's what led to my question
[05:56] <aaroncampbell> How do I format a drive as a single partition, but NOT select a mount point? (I want to format it, mount it to a temporary location, and then move all of /home over, and mount it at /home from now on)
[05:57] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, mkfs.[ext2|ext3|minix|msdos|vfat] 
[05:57] <jarle> Using image-view in konqueror, is it possible to open the selected picture in fullscreen, and not just show a scaled down version of the image?
[05:58] <BluesKaj> well, PF-Away I have some kofficelibs problem which also involves krita , which in turn requires other older libs that i don't have due to the recent KDE upgrade...so I guess I'm in dependency hell as far as Fiesty is concerned
[05:58] <PF-Away> heh
[05:58] <jaevel> where would the pkg be on the cdrom??
[05:58] <jaevel> what path?
[05:59] <jaevel> VSpike: you know where the net-tools might be on the cdrom?
[05:59] <Yorokobi> jarle, switch to the gwenview viewing method
[06:00] <Yorokobi> jarle, in Konqueror, click View > Viewmode and select gwenview
[06:01] <VSpike> jaevel: I'm not sure about this, but I think you can do "sudo apt-cdrom add"
[06:01] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: do I first need to partition?  And how do I know which device it is?
[06:01] <VSpike> jaevel: that should tell apt about the cdrom as a source of packages
[06:02] <Yorokobi> Yes and yes
[06:02] <jarle> Yorokobi: somehow I don't have that menu-item??
[06:02] <VSpike> jaevel: if the result of that looks promising, try the apt-get
[06:02] <Yorokobi> jarle, 'sudo apt-get install gwenview' should take care of that
[06:03] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, IDE? SATA? USB?
[06:03] <jarle> Yorokobi: Gwenview is already installed...
[06:03] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: SATA RAID though a 3ware card (Kubuntu should only see one device...just not sure what it will be)
[06:03] <trentina> per l'italiano?
[06:04] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, /dev/sd? probably ... fdisk -l might tell you
[06:04] <chijin> http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u155/conquerearth/sata.jpg
[06:04] <CarinArr> !it
[06:04] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:04] <trentina> ok thank you
[06:05] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: fdisk -l did nothing
[06:05] <Yorokobi> jarle, not sure ...
[06:05] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, try it as root (sudo fdisk -l)
[06:05] <aaroncampbell> That did it: Disk /dev/sdb: 1999.9 GB, 1999957393408 bytes
[06:06] <aaroncampbell> thanks
[06:06] <Yorokobi> np
[06:06] <Yorokobi> jarle, which Kubuntu release are you using?
[06:06] <aaroncampbell> now I'll just partition with fdisk?  And then mkfs to format?
[06:06] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, yup, and then you can mount it wherever you want
[06:07] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, 2TB will take a while to format :)
[06:07] <jarle> Yorokobi: feisty
[06:07] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: took a while to build the RAID too
[06:07] <Yorokobi> jarle, ah ... they may have moved it. You could ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:07] <jaevel> VSpike: i will try that again.. i have to go, be back in about an hour... if i dont see you then, Thanks so much for the help!!
[06:09] <jarle> Yorokobi: can not remember seeing it in earlier version of konqueror, I thought it was a new option?
[06:09] <dromer> so, can anyone help me get this codec for linux? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HACNu3ERyQ&mode=related&search=
[06:09] <dromer> oeps, sorry, wrong link :S
[06:09] <dromer> http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Midvid_JPEG_Video_Codec.htm
[06:09] <Yorokobi> jarle, what I described is what I have in edgy ... I just remoted to my feisty box and will check momentarily
[06:10] <PF-Away> where can i find changelogs for packages in kubuntu?
[06:10] <VSpike> jaevel: no prob
[06:10] <fdoving> PF-Away: like changelogs.ubuntu.com or launchpad.net ?
[06:10] <PF-Away> fdoving: oh, nice;)
[06:12] <PF-Away> fdoving: can't seem to find the changelog for konqueror...
[06:12] <PF-Away> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/
[06:12] <fdoving> it's kdebase.
[06:12] <PF-Away> ok
[06:13] <Yorokobi> jarle, you may need to open an image before Konqueror gives you the option to use gwenview. The procedure if feisty is the same for edgy. View > View Mode > Gwenview
[06:16] <aaroncampbell> how can I see what FS's are on my current partitions?
[06:16] <ian_> hello all. If    lspci | grep VGA   only shows you 1 graphics card, it that a hardware level or is it simply software not detecting it ? thanks
[06:16] <ranjan> check /etc/fstab with an editor
[06:17] <SixieKiller> or "sudo fdisk -l"
[06:17] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, fdisk -l ^^^
[06:18] <aaroncampbell> SixieKiller and Yorokobi: fdisk -l shows "Linux" "Extended" "Linux Swap" etc...but not "ext2/3" "ReiserFS" "XFS" etc
[06:18] <aaroncampbell> the latter is what I want
[06:18] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, one way is to check dmesg
[06:20] <aaroncampbell> Nevermind, I found it:  "System Settings"->Advanced->"Disk & Filesystems"
[06:20] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, the girly way.  the man's way is to go through tons of obscure commands looking for what you want :)
[06:22] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, how can one truly learn without obfuscation? :)
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: a very wise observation on obfuscation
[06:22] <PF-Away> how can one learn without serious amounts of pain, is the real question
[06:22] <Daisuke_Ido> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> lovely :\
[06:23] <jarle> Daisuke_Ido: might be problems downloading some packages?
[06:23] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, you don't _really_ need to update every day--or several times daily. Even if the opportunity presents itself.
[06:23] <Daisuke_Ido> adept crashed on top of that.
[06:24] <dromer> what is a good aplication for seeing what codec an avi is encoded in?
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: once every couple days, usually
[06:24] <llutz> hi
[06:24] <Daisuke_Ido> 105 upgradable packages is a pretty fair amount
[06:24] <jarle> seems like "sudo apt-get update" are having problems connecting to one of the repos today...
[06:24] <Yorokobi> Every time I see someone mention adept I become more and more convinced of how inept it is.
[06:25] <Daisuke_Ido> quite punny
[06:25] <Yorokobi> punny? Yes. True? Very.
[06:25] <boggystudios> how do I get the 2.6.15 kernel headers?
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> are you using the 2.6.15 kernel?
[06:26] <boggystudios> yes
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> um...  should be in the repos then, i would imagine
[06:26] <boggystudios> I typed apt-get install linux-kernel-headers but it installed 2.6.11 headers
[06:26] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh
[06:27] <Daisuke_Ido> did you compile the kernel yourself?
[06:27] <boggystudios> no
[06:27] <jarle> boggystudios: "sudo apt-get update" first maybe?
[06:27] <boggystudios> I updated this morning
[06:28] <fdoving> boggystudios: you want 'linux-headers-generic' iirc
[06:28] <fdoving> !away | archluccifer
[06:28] <ubotu> archluccifer: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:28] <llutz> anyone who has a spca-tools (webcam-tools, spcaview, spca-gui) -feisty.deb for me?
[06:28] <HymnToLife[] > boggystudios, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:29] <ArchLuCcifer> k
[06:29] <ArchLuCcifer> sorry
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> http://pastebin.ca/424139
[06:29] <Daisuke_Ido> is this normal?
[06:30] <boggystudios> thanks HymnToLife, you are officially awesome
[06:30] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, it is insomuch as it happens to me too
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> then it set up a new version
[06:31] <Daisuke_Ido> then told me it couldn't configure kdm because my kdebase-bin is too new :\
[06:32] <AMorozov> Hi there
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, that's where adept broke
[06:32] <Daisuke_Ido> all better now
[06:34] <AMorozov> I'm trying to make modprobe to run setpci before it loads rhe mode (snd-au8830)...
[06:35] <AMorozov> ... and, it seems, that init process in my KUbuntu-6.10 is broken somehow...
[06:37] <JuJuBee> I have an account on a server with UID 1002 and my local account on my laptop is UID 1000.  I wish to mount my home dir from server locally so I can edit files with local apps rather than doing everthing with console.  How do I accomplish this?  Is is too dangerous to change UID on my laptop to  match my UID on server?
[06:38] <PF-Away> JuJuBee: man mount
[06:38] <boggystudios> what do I type in to get standard C compiler libraries?
[06:38] <AMorozov> at least a common pattern: echo "install snd-au8830 /usr/bin/setpci -d '<device_id>' <required_data>; /sbin/modprobe --ingore-install snd-au8830 $CMDLINE_OPTS" > /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-au8830 doesn't help...
[06:38] <Mr^B> Hi: Anyone any good with the nvidia drivers, having a bit of a problem?
[06:38] <dromer> !fourcc
[06:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fourcc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:38] <BonBonTheJon> boggystudios: sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:39] <boggystudios> It says that gcc is installed
[06:39] <mrigns> i think sudo apt-get install build-essential should do the trick
[06:39] <Yorokobi> boggystudios, or 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' if you plan on building things from source
[06:39] <boggystudios> sweet
[06:41] <Yorokobi> AMorozov, what are you trying to do/accomplish? or: what are you having a problem with?
[06:42] <AMorozov> Yorokobi: I have to set certain PCI bus bits for my sound card (Vortex 2) before its module is loaded.
[06:42] <AMorozov> Yorokobi: otherwise the card hangs shortly after it was initialized.
[06:43] <jhutchins> AMorozov: I believe you can set that up in the modprobe.d files.
[06:43] <jhutchins> I've never had to use those features, but I've seen them documented.
[06:43] <AMorozov> jhutchins: I also thought so :-). I even prepared and executed the command like that above.
[06:44] <jhutchins> AMorozov: Just a matter of finding the correct syntax and location.
[06:44] <Yorokobi> AMorozov, http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg09647.html
[06:44] <Yorokobi> AMorozov, its a known bug according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/92895
[06:44] <AMorozov> jhutchins: it even works when I run it from command prompt (that is if I manually run 'modprobe snd-au8830' I got a correct result)
[06:44] <jhutchins> kubuntu totally missed the sound on my old IBM Thinkpad.
[06:46] <AMorozov> Yorokobi: yes, I know that its a known problem, and I workarounded it long before my first Ubuntu installation.
[06:47] <AMorozov> The problem I'm describing not with the hardware problem, but rather with my inability to workaround it using Ubuntu module-init-tools.
[06:48] <jhutchins> AMorozov: So did you edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base?
[06:48] <jarle> "sudo apt-get update" hangs at "99% [7 Packages bzip2 0] ", any ideas how to debug this? Shouldn't there be some kind of timeout if a repo is not available?
[06:49] <AMorozov> The problem is that the file I created inside /etc/modprobe.d/ works Ok when I manually invoke modprobe, but /somehow fails/ during the system bootup process.
[06:49] <clau85> hi all. got a problem: in which boot file do I have to write in order to run a command as root. I have to do a "chmod 666 /dev/null" everytime I (re)start my computer
[06:49] <Yorokobi> AMorozov, http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/newbie/2002-06/msg01787.php -- I'm not sure if this will work with Ubuntu but it may be worth a shot
[06:49] <AMorozov> jhutchins: no, I created /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-au8830 instead.
[06:51] <AMorozov> jhutchins: and checked it with manual invocation of modprobe: lsmod | grep au8830; [nothing here] ; modprobe snd-au8830; [check results] 
[06:51] <jhutchins> AMorozov: It could be that alsa-base is overwriting that file.  I would try modifying alsa-base.  Comment out the current call for the au8830 module and replace it.
[06:53] <AMorozov> Yorokobi: thank you. /sbin/setpci -d '12eb:*' 40.B=ff is exactly the command I have to execute. And, well, I've been doing it for a long time, about 5 years or so ;-)
[06:54] <Yorokobi> Its not as easy to help someone who has already done his/her homework :)
[06:55] <jarle> Yorokobi: It seems like the "Image view" I have in my konqueror is actually Gwenview (It has the same look and same filter as found in gwenview) But how do you make it show the image in fullscreen? In Gwenview I just press "f", but that doesn't seem to work from konqueror?
[06:55] <AMorozov> jhutchins: well, maybe... although currently my alsa-base doesn't mention vortex at all, I'll try to move that command there... just a moment.
[06:56] <AMorozov> jarle: have you tried konqueror own fullscreen mode (<F11> or smth similar) ?
[06:56] <Yorokobi> jarle, is Ctrl-Shift-F what you're looking for?
[06:57] <AMorozov> jarle: by the way you may choose what renderer within konqueror to use for a particular within content.
[06:57] <jarle> Yorokobi and AMorozov: No, this just display konqueror in fullscreen, I want to show one single image in fullscreen..
[06:57] <Yorokobi> jarle, gqview
[06:57] <atidem> ciao!
[06:57] <Yorokobi> forget Konqueror :)
[06:57] <AMorozov> ok, bye
[06:59] <jaevel> VSpike: are you still there?
[07:00] <computer432> any one good with knoppix
[07:00] <jarle> Yorokobi: I have found Gwenview to be my favourite image browser, but I would like to have a usable image view in konqueror as well..
[07:00] <niro> bien le bonjour!
[07:00] <jaevel> any1 else know how i can install net-tools from cdrom?
[07:06] <mario> hola a todos/as
[07:07] <mario> hola
[07:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !es | mario
[07:08] <ubotu> mario: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:08] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi, will there be an instructions page for Fiesty install by internet , can't seem to locate one ?
[07:09] <mario> !es | Admiral
[07:09] <ubotu> Admiral: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:09] <PF-Away> !hi | mario
[07:09] <ubotu> mario: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:09] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, well, there's the adept way as listed in the channel topic ... or you could manually change your sources.list from edgy to feisty and 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get -f -y dist-upgrade' but that tends to be problematic
[07:09] <mario> hi you all
[07:11] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, or are you looking for a net-install CD similar to what Debian offers?
[07:13] <BluesKaj> no, Yorokobi , I previously upgraded from dapper to edgy by an internet install with help from a few ppl here and I really didn't any probs , so i thought I'd do it again
[07:15] <mario> I'm only testing. This is my very first time in Konversation. Thanks folks. Bye!
[07:15] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, technically, both options I first mentioned are "internet installs" as they use the net to grab the packages that are needed.
[07:15] <BluesKaj> I'm little more familiar with the nomenclature now so , I think I can accomplish it relatively pain free by an internet install
[07:18] <softmaster> i have a simple request
[07:18] <BluesKaj> ok Yorokobi , perhaps downloading the Fiesty official release and burning it to cd would be good .Yes, then it would look for updated pkges on the repos ,which would be good :)
[07:18] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, the CD will nuke your current install
[07:19] <softmaster> i recently installed a new HDD
[07:19] <computer432> dangit whats the command to copy a folder, and all files with then that folder?
[07:19] <DaSkreech> computer432: cp -r
[07:19] <softmaster> and i want to mount it every startup with kubuntu
[07:20] <softmaster> its partitioned and formatted
[07:20] <DaSkreech> !mount
[07:20] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:20] <softmaster> with FAT32 file system
[07:20] <DaSkreech> !fstab
[07:20] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[07:20] <DaSkreech> softmaster: ^^^
[07:20] <Yorokobi> softmaster, do you know what /dev/ location it is? ('sudo fdisk -l' can tell you)
[07:21] <softmaster> yes i can
[07:22] <softmaster> Yorokobi,it give me a table
[07:23] <Yorokobi> softmaster, which one has VFAT|FAT32 as the file system?
[07:24] <softmaster> hda1 through hda9
[07:24] <Yorokobi> do you want to auto mount all of them?
[07:24] <softmaster> yes
[07:24] <Yorokobi> softmaster, 'kdesu kate /etc/fstab'
[07:24] <softmaster> but with disabling dosfck
[07:25] <softmaster> ok
[07:25] <softmaster> whats next?
[07:26] <Yorokobi> softmaster, then add /dev/hdaX        /mnt/X  vfat user,auto     0       0
[07:26] <Yorokobi> where X is /dev/hda[1-9]  and /mnt/[uniquename] 
[07:27] <Yorokobi> softmaster, you'll have to 'sudo mkdir /mnt/[uniquename]  before it'll work
[07:27] <lxuser> Hello, Is there anybody out there who can help me with my soundproblems? I us Kubuntu 6.10. I had the same problems with Suse 10.1.Please look: www.linux-community.de/Neues/story?storyid=20580
[07:28] <softmaster> Yorokobi, can i ask a stupid question
[07:28] <Yorokobi> softmaster, ask away
[07:28] <softmaster> where exactly to add them in the file
[07:28] <Yorokobi> the end
[07:28] <softmaster> in the begging
[07:28] <softmaster> * begining
[07:28] <Yorokobi> one entry per line at the end of the file
[07:28] <softmaster> or the end
[07:29] <softmaster> ok
[07:31] <BluesKaj> Hey DaSkreech....  I don't want to wipe out my current setup , so I guess a network install/upgrade is in order :)
[07:31] <Yorokobi> softmaster, it should look similar to http://pastebin.ca/424243 at the end of your /etc/fstab
[07:31] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Gonna test Feisty?
[07:32] <MarkCh> hi room. can anyone tell me how i can record sounds i am currently playing to another file? i am trying to record a part of a movie.
[07:32] <kraut> did anybody tried wpa2 with knetworkmanager?
[07:32] <Yorokobi> softmaster, unless one of the partitions is Extended, then you don't want to try to mount it
[07:32] <BluesKaj> no , jhutchins , just planning ahead you might say :)
[07:32] <Yorokobi> kraut, yes
[07:32] <kraut> Yorokobi: did it worked?
[07:32] <Yorokobi> kraut, yep
[07:33] <kraut> i am using wpa2 personal with aes on a linksys access point and don't get a connection :/
[07:33] <jhutchins> softmaster: This might be of help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:33] <Yorokobi> kraut, knetworkmanager has some DHCP issues but it works when it works :)
[07:33] <kraut> Yorokobi: any idea what i could check?
[07:33] <kraut> Yorokobi: wpa is working with TKIP, but not wpa2 with aes
[07:33] <softmaster> thanks guys
[07:33] <Yorokobi> kraut, I've only tried WPA2 with TKIP
[07:34] <kraut> my AP only could wpa2 personal with AES
[07:34] <kraut> wpa2 mixed with TKIP could be possible, but then i could also use wpa1
[07:35] <kraut> Yorokobi: is there any special log-file for this tool?
[07:35] <kraut> hmm, wpa2 with TKIP is also not working
[07:36] <Yorokobi> kraut, /var/log/syslog logs some stuff but I don't know if knet..man.. does
[07:36] <kraut> knet man does?
[07:36] <Yorokobi> and by "stuff" I mean relevant entries.
[07:36] <BluesKaj> jhutchins, are you testing fiesty ?
[07:37] <Yorokobi> knet..man.. == lazy typing of knetworkmanager
[07:37] <BluesKaj> or anyone ?
[07:37] <jhutchins> No, right now i'm testing edgy on an old laptop.
[07:37] <BluesKaj> right , how's it running ?
[07:37] <jhutchins> Not very well.
[07:37] <kraut> Yorokobi: yep, same shit like with wpa_supplicant :(
[07:37] <BluesKaj> bummer
[07:38] <jhutchins> This system had Mandrake 9.1 on it - pretty close to 5 years ago - and it ran fine.
[07:38] <eXistenZ> firefox is kinda heavy on KDE
[07:38] <jhutchins> kubuntu's really slow.  Took over an hour to run the initial updates after the install, which took like eight hours.  Doesn't detect the sound system at all.
[07:39] <eXistenZ> jhutchins: slow?
[07:39] <jhutchins> eXistenZ: The only thing heavier than Firefox is full-bloat Mozilla.
[07:39] <jhutchins> eXistenZ: Very.
[07:42] <BluesKaj> trouble is FF is setup to run IPv6 in edgy and one has to blacklist it and reset it to IPv4 to run faster : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[07:42] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: Actually, that's nothing to do with FireFox.
[07:43] <Yorokobi> Has disabling IPv6 actually helped anyone though? I've never done it and I have had zero DNS lookup delays.
[07:43] <BluesKaj> yeah, all browsers
[07:43] <jhutchins> BluesKaj: It will slow down anything that has ipv6 compatibility.
[07:44] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi, it sped things up considerably on my pc
[07:44] <VSpike> jaevel: any luck?
[07:46] <softmaster> guys how do i disable dosfsck from scanning my drives?
[07:48] <aaroncampbell> I want to use a separate drive for /home.  I formatted it (reiserfs), and moved all of the contents of /home into it.  Then I mounted it at /home.  How can I make sure that it stays there on reboot (otherwise...things will be REAL messed up)?
[07:48] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi, btw which browser are you using ?
[07:48] <Yorokobi> FF
[07:48] <aaroncampbell> I used the admin tool in system settings, and it generated this in fstab: /dev/sdb1 /home auto nouser,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0
[07:48] <jhutchins> softmaster: Why?
[07:48] <BluesKaj> why reiser ?
[07:49] <BluesKaj> kubuntu is ext
[07:49] <softmaster> because it makes problem with may file names
[07:49] <softmaster> it misses it up
[07:49] <jhutchins> softmaster: So don't run it.
[07:49] <Yorokobi> softmaster, dosfsck has to be manually run
[07:49] <softmaster> it runs automaticaly
[07:49] <softmaster> no
[07:49] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: That's not quite correct, note that you have auto, noauto, auto.
[07:50] <softmaster> it runs automatically on the startup
[07:50] <jhutchins> softmaster: What are the numbers at the end of your fstab entries for those partitions?
[07:50] <softmaster> 0
[07:50] <jhutchins> 0 0 ?
[07:50] <softmaster> ya
[07:50] <Yorokobi> jhutchins, they're for dump and pass options
[07:51] <jhutchins> Not sure why it would run then, ubuntu being helpful like windows again
[07:51] <Yorokobi> jhutchins, sorry ... mis-read :)
[07:52] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: You probably want auto,rw 0 0
[07:52] <clau85> hi all. got a problem: in which boot file do I have to write in order to run a command as root. I have to do a "chmod 666 /dev/null" everytime I (re)start my computer
[07:52] <softmaster> jhutchins,should i change the numbers to pass checking
[07:52] <softmaster> or 0 0 is correct
[07:53] <jhutchins> softmaster: 0 0 should disable checking after a certain number of mounts.
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> the he**?
[07:53] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: so something like this: http://paste-bin.com/11336 (making sure it's in the right place, etc...that is my fstab)
[07:53] <jhutchins> softmaster: I suppose you could rename dosfsck.
[07:53] <softmaster> how?
[07:53] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you ever need to mess with /dev/null?
[07:54] <Yorokobi> clau85, 'sudo mknod -m 666 /dev/null c 1 3' then 'sudo chown root.mem /dev/null'
[07:54] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Make that ... auto defaults,auto,rw 0 0
[07:54] <softmaster> jhutchins,how?
[07:55] <clau85> Yorokobi: will this be permanent, i.e. I do it just once and remains like that?
[07:55] <jhutchins> softmaster: sudo mv /sbin/dosfsck /sbin/chkdsk
[07:55] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: fixed: http://paste-bin.com/11337
[07:56] <Yorokobi> clau85, should be, yes. Let me know if it gives you a load of errors. You may have to mount it rw, delete it, then make it again :)
[07:56] <clau85> I can't create it now cause it exists
[07:56] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: I think that should work.  Ubuntu uses a lot more settings than most systems do.
[07:56] <clau85> wait
[07:56] <clau85> got it :)
[07:56] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Make the change, then sudo mount -a to make sure it works.
[07:57] <Yorokobi> clau85, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=178660
[07:57] <aaroncampbell> first unmount it?
[07:57] <clau85> sais: root.mem invalid user
[07:57] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: No need to, you're just checking for syntax errors.
[07:58] <Yorokobi> clau85, use root.root instead of root.mem
[07:58] <aaroncampbell> "sudo mount -a" said absolutely nothing...I assume that's "no errors"
[07:59] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Yep.
[07:59] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: thanks.  I'll restart soon enough, and hopefully that will help.
[07:59] <clau85> Yorokobi: thanks, it worked. now I'll have to wait 'till next reboot
[07:59] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: help make sure it works that is
[07:59] <Yorokobi> clau85, np. Thank Google too :)
[08:00] <clau85> Yorokobi: I tried google too, but ... I queried it wrong probably
[08:02] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html for future reference.
[08:12] <SubOne> Adept says that it is locked and can't install anything, but I don't know that any adept processes are running. How can I unlock the DB?
[08:12] <Photon> i have a problem with KDevelop
[08:12] <Photon> aclocal
[08:12] <Photon> make: aclocal: Command not found
[08:12] <Photon> make: *** [all]  Error 127
[08:12] <Photon> *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[08:13] <Photon> restart kubuntu
[08:13] <Photon> lol
[08:13] <SubOne> I restarted and even tried shutting down completely, nothing
[08:13] <Photon> maybe its downloading updates...
[08:14] <SubOne> behind my back?
[08:14] <Yorokobi> !fix adept | SubOne
[08:14] <ubotu> SubOne: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[08:14] <Photon> can anyone help me with my problem?
[08:14] <SubOne> which one lol
[08:14] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> i have a problem with KDevelop
[08:14] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> aclocal
[08:14] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> make: aclocal: Command not found
[08:14] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> make: *** [all]  Error 127
[08:14] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[08:14] <Photon> this one lol
[08:15] <SubOne> oh its a bot command ok lol
[08:15] <Photon> lo
[08:15] <Photon> ll
[08:15] <Photon> lol
[08:15] <Photon> can anyone help me?
[08:16] <Photon> hellooo anyone out there?
[08:16] <Photon> "i guess ther all dead"
[08:16] <Photon> !kdevelop
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <SubOne> that seemed to unlock it ty
[08:17] <jsubl2> !nspluginwrapper
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nspluginwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <Photon> !ndiswrapper
[08:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:19] <Photon> can anyone help me with my problem?
[08:19] <Photon> problem with KDevelop
[08:19] <jhutchins> !ask | Photon
[08:19] <ubotu> Photon: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:20] <Photon> <span style="font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ></span>aclocal
[08:20] <Photon> <span style="font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ></span>make: aclocal: Command not found
[08:20] <Photon> <span style="font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ></span>make: *** [all]  Error 127
[08:20] <Photon> <span style="font-family:Monos
[08:20] <Photon> i get this error
[08:20] <Photon> span style="font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ></span>aclocal
[08:20] <Photon> <span style="font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ></span>make: aclocal: Command not found
[08:20] <Photon> <span style="font-family:Monospace"><img src=warning ></span>make: *** [all]  Error 127
[08:20] <Photon> <span style="font-family:Monos
[08:21] <Yorokobi> !spam | Photon
[08:21] <ubotu> Photon: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[08:21] <Photon> am not spamming
[08:21] <jhutchins> Photon: Ok, don't repeat, and if you're going to past more than a line or two use the pastebin.
[08:21] <khaije1> does kubuntu have joystick support out of the box w/ 6.10 ?
[08:21] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | Photon
[08:21] <ubotu> Photon: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:22] <khaije1> !joystick
[08:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about joystick - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:22] <jhutchins> khaije1: Depends on what hardware you have, but it should.
[08:22] <jhutchins> Photon: what are you doing when this error occurs?
[08:23] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> i have a problem with KDevelop
[08:23] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> aclocal
[08:23] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> make: aclocal: Command not found
[08:23] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> make: *** [all]  Error 127
[08:23] <Photon> [21:12]  <Photon> *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[08:23] <Photon> so...what should i do?
[08:23] <khaije1> hey jhutchins, how are ya? It's a logitech usb controller, i used it on dapper, but i don't remember if i had to change anything first...   :-/
[08:23] <Photon> just compiling and runing
[08:23] <BluesKaj> can you read Photon ?
[08:23] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[08:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:23] <Photon> ok ok
[08:24] <jhutchins> Photon: Why are you installing from source?
[08:25] <Photon> what do u mean?
[08:25] <Photon> i want to run hello world program,
[08:26] <khaije1> brb
[08:26] <Photon> ive just installed kdevelop
[08:26] <jhutchins> Photon: Ok.
[08:26] <Yorokobi> jhutchins, I think Photon is trying to compile within Kdevelop, not built the app itself
[08:26] <Photon> this is what i get when i build http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13913/
[08:26] <jhutchins> Photon: I would guess you don't have everything installed.
[08:26] <jhutchins> Yorokobi: Yeah, I gather that.
[08:26] <Photon> then whats missing
[08:26] <jhutchins> Photon: Well, I don't code myself, but
[08:27] <jhutchins> !build | photon
[08:27] <ubotu> photon: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:27] <jhutchins> That should give you the packages you need to have installed.
[08:27] <Photon> okay...
[08:27] <Yorokobi> !info aclocal
[08:27] <ubotu> Package aclocal does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:28] <aaroncampbell> Is there some sort of graphical Samba configuration tool?  Or should I just manually edit the smb.conf file?
[08:29] <aaroncampbell> I'm used to CentOS, and with no gui...but the kubuntu smb.conf is pretty different...missing a lot of the things I usually see (such as a place to define the workgroup, the server string, etc)
[08:29] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: It's called swat, accessed through http.
[08:30] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:30] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html
[08:31] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: if you want a workgroup then just add it in
[08:32] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: yeah, I guess I'll have to...there seems to be quite a few parameters I'm used to setting that are gone.
[08:32] <cpk1> although I find it hard to believe that "workgroup=" has just *disappeared*
[08:33] <Yorokobi> cpk1, or it is intentionally omitted
[08:35] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: grep -i work /etc/samba/smb.con doesn't show it
[08:35] <tarelerulz> it would seem that adept does not install twm right
[08:36] <aaroncampbell> I think it's something that is in all the RH distros (RHEL, Fedora, CentOS), but Ubuntu doesn't seem to include it
[08:41] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I added swat, but http://localhost:901 seems to get nothing
[08:41] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: it still has a section to put in workgroup
[08:41] <Apollo^101> how can i change the logo saying "kubuntu" and the background picture in kubuntu kde login time?
[08:41] <cpk1> # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
[08:41] <cpk1> followed by 2 blank lines
[08:42] <Apollo^101> at kubuntu login. when x windows start
[08:42] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: try cping /usr/share/samba/smb.conf to your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:42] <jaevel> VSpike: nope.. wont let me load net-tools from cdrom....
[08:43] <Apollo^101> can any one help please ?
[08:44] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, K > System Settings > Advanced > Login Manager
[08:46] <Photon> how can i decrease the disk cache?
[08:46] <Photon> its eating all my memory
[08:46] <Photon> lol
[08:46] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, i need to change the logo saying "kubuntu" theres no optoin in login manager for theat
[08:47] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, during boot or after KDM starts?
[08:47] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, when i enter my pasword. at login. theres kubuntu writen.
[08:48] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, when x windows start
[08:48] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> my new laptop is almost here :-) so now i am debating ubuntu or kubuntu
[08:48] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, K > System Settings > Splash Screen
[08:48] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, no no no.. not the splash screen. it comes after that.
[08:48] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, where you put your login name and password. there..........
[08:48] <cpk1> Apollo^101: before or after you enter your login information?
[08:49] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Apollo^101: the log-in screen?
[08:49] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, okay, look for kdm-related packages in adept
[08:49] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Apollo^101: oh yes i want to change that too, kubuntu login is ugly
[08:49] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, There's something that lets you change what you're looking for ... maybe its in kcontrol
[08:49] <Apollo^101> cpk1, not before. not after..           its right where i enter login name and paswrod
[08:49] <Apollo^101> t3hwiz0rd-ibook, yes
[08:49] <cpk1> Apollo^101: install kdmtheme
[08:49] <Apollo^101> t3hwiz0rd-ibook, :)
[08:50] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, no. its not in kcontrol
[08:50] <Apollo^101> cpk1, whats kdmtheme
[08:50] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Apollo^101: theoretically it is in kcontrol
[08:50] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> it just doesn't properly work
[08:50] <cpk1> Apollo^101: install it and then run kdmtheme
[08:50] <cpk1> Apollo^101: kdmtheme is what does what you want done
[08:50] <Apollo^101> and guys. how do i install ubuntu theme in kde?
[08:50] <Apollo^101> cpk1, ok
[08:50] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, use gdm instead of kdm
[08:50] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> Apollo^101: ubuntu desktop?
[08:50] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> gdm?
[08:51] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktopo
[08:51] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop*
[08:51] <cpk1> Apollo^101: after you install it you can get stuff from kde-look.org and usually kdmtheme can use them without you unpacking them
[08:51] <Apollo^101> cpk1, got it!
[08:51] <cpk1> Apollo^101: good luck, I have to go to class
[08:51] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, why use gdm instead of kdm
[08:51] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> cpk1: isn't kcontrol capable of changing the login screen theme too?
[08:51] <soulrider> hi everyone
[08:52] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, no Kubuntu logo with gdm
[08:52] <Apollo^101> t3hwiz0rd-ibook, yes. the theme only. not d top envirement. i want to stay on kde
[08:52] <soulrider> with kcontrol you can change the login screen
[08:52] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> soulrider: how come even when changed it retains the kubuntu login tho?
[08:52] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, sory. i didnt get you
[08:52] <soulrider> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: dunno, but you should be able to change it
[08:52] <soulrider> maybe you hit cancel instead of OK :P
[08:53] <Apollo^101> t3hwiz0rd-ibook, how to install the ubuntu theme in kde
[08:53] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> soulrider: maybe i suck at life :-(
[08:53] <soulrider> nah
[08:55] <luckyone> can someone suggest a wireless card for a desktop that is 'easy' to setup in Kubuntu?
[08:55] <luckyone> I bought a USB stick that is just terrible
[08:55] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, sory. i didnt get you
[08:55] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, which part?
 Apollo^101, no Kubuntu logo with gdm
[08:56] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, gdm is the Gnome equiv of kdm.
[08:57] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, ok. but iam using kde. it wont work i gues.
[08:57] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, I wouldn't suggest it if it wouldn't work
[08:57] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, oh. ok :) thanks
[08:59] <Apollo^101> thanks all. checking out
[09:00] <aaroncampbell> in Fedora/CentOS/RHEL, when I would edit something like smb.conf with vi, I'd get color coding.  I don't get that in Kubuntu.  Is there something that offers it?
[09:01] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, in vi/vim ':colorscheme <yourchoice>'
[09:02] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, you can copy /usr/share/vim/vimrc to ~/.vimrc and play with the vimrc file, too
[09:02] <aaroncampbell> what colorschemes are available?
[09:03] <aaroncampbell> or where are they stored?
[09:03] <aaroncampbell> conf and config are "Not Found" as color schemes
[09:03] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, use tab to cycle through the available schemes
[09:04] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, :colorscheme <tab>
[09:04] <emacla> Is there any good C++ IDE's for linux?
[09:04] <aaroncampbell> hmmm, thanks, but I just get :colorscheme ^I^I^I^I^I^I
[09:05] <computer432> any one know much about klpoxxi on live mode?
[09:05] <qsu> emacla: try kdevelop
[09:05] <computer432> i mean knoppix
[09:05] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, that's odd. Are you remoting from a RHEL/CentOS box to a Ubuntu box?
[09:05] <emacla> qsu: Ok
[09:05] <computer432> when I try to view a large file resource, or copy something to my usb flash card the screen disapperasd, but I see a us logo?
[09:05] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: nope...I'm logged into the Kubuntu box, using vi in konsole
[09:06] <qsu> emacla:  aptitude install kdevelop
[09:06] <Yorokobi> very odd
[09:06] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, en-US keyboard layout?
[09:06] <aaroncampbell> emacla: also, eclipse can do nearly anything with plugins
[09:06] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: should be
[09:07] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, well, elflord is an easy-to-see schema
[09:07] <emacla> aaroncampbell: I don't like eclipse...
[09:07] <aaroncampbell> emacla: can't blame you...just offering.  The only thing I like it for is Javascript in web development, using aptana.
[09:08] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: E185: Cannot find color scheme elflord
[09:08] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, maybe its a vim thing. sudo apt-get install vim-full
[09:08] <qsu> and emacla are you installing it
[09:10] <FreeWolF> hello
[09:12] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: now if I do sudo vim ____  I can do :colorscheme <tab> to see the options...but when I choose something like elflord, nothing changes
[09:13] <belfist> Hi everyone ;)
[09:13] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, try :syntax on
[09:13] <aaroncampbell> that did it
[09:14] <aaroncampbell> now default looks like what I'm used to
[09:14] <darryl_> in KFTP Grabber there is an option in the site setup that sais "Local Directory" - is this where on the file system you want to navigate to when you connect to a site?
[09:16] <Yorokobi> darryl_, on your local file system, yes.
[09:17] <emacla> Wich is the best place to get themes for KDE? kde-look.org?
[09:17] <belfist> Hey, I,ve got a problem with my amarok. I cant apply any other skins than the orginal one:(
[09:17] <darryl_> Yorokobi: anyting special i need to do to make it work?  When I connect to a FTP site, the local file system does NOT navigate where I specified in the site setup
[09:19] <Yorokobi> darryl_, I've never used it. Setting an initial local directory to somewhere on the local system is sort of a de facto standard in gui ftp programs.
[09:20] <darryl_> Yorokobi: yea  it does do that by default, howerver it seems that this setting is supposed to override that and go on the local  filesystem where you specify
[09:20] <darryl_> Yorokobi: I dont really see what else this setting can be for??
[09:20] <Dunkelschub> Whenever I log in under my one account, once everything finishes loading, my keyboard stops responding, however, under the new account I just made, everything works fine, any suggestions?
[09:21] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[09:21] <[Relic] > Anyone use hplip that knows what all the numbers mean?  :)
[09:21] <darryl_> Dunkelschub: something wrong with your xorg conf?
[09:21] <Dunkelschub> if it was my xorg, wouldn't it have a problem with all users, not just the one?
[09:22] <Yorokobi> darryl_, that would affect all users
[09:22] <cox377> under windows when i go to a linux share it asks me for the full user name and password of the share and then i get fullaccess, is there anyway of doing that before linux boxes??
[09:22] <darryl_> actually yea makes sense
[09:23] <cadkins> cox377 : what do you mean "doing that before linux boxes"???
[09:23] <Yorokobi> Dunkelschub, 'mv ~/.kde ~/.kdebackup' (where ~ represents the home dir of the problem user) then log back in as the problem user. If that works then there was a problem with the user-specific KDE setup
[09:23] <darryl_> cox377: you need to have a user account with the same credentials on your Windows and Linux box
[09:23] <K`zan> Is there any way to get a log (dialog box for the updater is not copyable) of what caused the updates to fail here two days running?
[09:24] <cox377> cadkins: sorry i meant between linux boxes
[09:24] <Dunkelschub> kk Yorokobi, I'll try logging in as the other user now
[09:24] <Yorokobi> K`zan, use 'sudo apt-get upgrade' from konsole, it'll spit everything out for you to see
[09:24] <cadkins> cox377 : so you want to create a share between two linux boxes?  Have to use Samba for that.
[09:25] <cox377> cadkins: basically, i have 2 linux boxes and a windows box. i've tried and failed in mounting the samba drive on my file server properly so all the file editing i do i have to do from windows
[09:25] <cox377> cadkins: i've got samba all installed
[09:25] <Yorokobi> cadkins, cox377 samba is for linux<->windows
[09:25] <darryl_> it can also be used for linux to linux
[09:25] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Thanks!  Will do.
[09:26] <cox377> how do i gain full access between this kubuntu box and my other linux file box
[09:26] <darryl_> cox377: you can use samba if you like
[09:26] <darryl_> cox377: I do that on my Kubuntu box
[09:26] <cox377> darryl_: i've already got samba installed, i can get full access but i want full read/write access between L-boxes
[09:26] <cadkins> cox377 : OK.  I have the same thing.  Linux fileserver and such.  I just created a link to it in my home directory.  smb://<linuxboxname>/<username>
[09:27] <cox377> cadkins:by doiung that does it give you full access?
[09:27] <cadkins> cox377 : might have to chmod the directory to 777
[09:28] <Yorokobi> cadkins, cox377 sshfs is a better solution
[09:28] <Yorokobi> than samba
[09:28] <cox377> Yorokobi: whats sshfs?
[09:28] <cadkins> Yorokobi : just a suggestion to use samba really.  easiest way to get linux and windows to talk together ;)
[09:29] <Yorokobi> sshfs is a filesystem client based on the SSH File Transfer Protocol. Since most SSH servers already support this protocol it is very easy to set up: i.e. on the server side there's nothing to do.  On the client side mounting the filesystem is as easy as logging into the server with ssh.
[09:29] <cox377> cadkins: lol i have windows and linux working fine, it's linux and linux i've got the problem withg
[09:29] <Yorokobi> cadkins, cox377 this is for linux<->linux though, yes?
[09:29] <cox377> Yorokobi: yup
[09:29] <Dunkelschub> Yorokobi: that didn't fix it
[09:30] <Yorokobi> Dunkelschub, I don't know then
[09:30] <K`zan> Configuration file `/etc/udev/rules.d/25-dmsetup.rules'
[09:30] <K`zan>  ==> Deleted (by you or by a script) since installation. -  Just install the package maintainers version (Y or I) ?
[09:31] <Yorokobi> K`zan, yes
[09:31] <K`zan> I know I didn't delete it :-).
[09:31] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Thanks very much!
[09:31] <Yorokobi> K`zan, you're using feisty, right?
[09:31] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Yes Sir.
[09:32] <Yorokobi> K`zan, good, that means they finally fixed that. Its been missing until now :)
[09:32] <cox377> Yorokobi: i think i just need to work out how to fully mount the linux drive to my kubuntu box
[09:32] <cadkins> cox377 : ok.  See if you can just open up konq and do smb://<linuxbox>/<username> and see if it will let you in.  Like I said, might have to chmod the directory to 777.  I did it a while back but I can't remember what all I had to do.  LOL
[09:32] <jeroen__> hi all i just installed 6.06lts and i installed totem to watch movies but i wont get it to work it says " No Uri handler implemented for "dvd" can someone help me?"
[09:32] <Yorokobi> cox377, there are a lot of ways to do that. Samba, NFS, FUSE/SSHFS, probably others
[09:32] <cox377> cadkins: what do you mean user name?
[09:33] <cox377> smb://<linuxbox>/ by doing that it brings up the drive
[09:33] <smile> hi linuxians ..
[09:33] <cox377> i have full read access just not write
[09:33] <smile> how can i install nvidia driver on ubuntu Dapper ?
[09:33] <K`zan> Installing new version of config file /etc/udev/rules.d/25-dmsetup.rules ...
[09:33] <K`zan> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.20-13-generic - err, that is not the one for the custom kernel I built ??  Use that in place of the initrd.img I built?
[09:33] <william> Hi all, does anyone know a good program for my DVBT card. I'm using WinTV-HVR-1100.
[09:33] <emacla> I has two harddisks. One with windows xp & one with Kubuntu. Can i move a file from the windows to the kubuntu hard drive? Without start windows and upload it on the net, or a usb-stick or anything?
[09:33] <cadkins> cox377 :  ok, you will probably have to chmod the directory to 777
[09:34] <cox377> cadkins: what do you mean by that mate?
[09:34] <smile> i tried apt-get nvidia-glx nvidia-common-kernel but the Xserver didint work !!
[09:34] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Is that the fix for the failing USB stuff on boot?
[09:35] <Yorokobi> K`zan, I dunno. I would guess no as I have not had USB problems with feisty
[09:35] <jeroen__> hi K'zan can u help me with totem? i inserted a dvd but it wont play it?
[09:35] <cadkins> cox377 : sorry.  If you open a terminal and type sudo chmod 777 /home/<username>
[09:35] <computer432> how do i copy all files from a directory
[09:35] <computer432> to another?
[09:35] <Yorokobi> K`zan, but my lack of problems are not conclusive
[09:35] <william> smile just download NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run and run it
[09:36] <K`zan> Yorokobi: It seems to have built an update to the initrd.img which is the one for the stock kernel do I use that one rather than the one I built when I made the custom kernel?
[09:36] <cox377> cadkins: done
[09:36] <cadkins> computer432: sudo cp * -R /your/new/directory
[09:36] <cox377> cadkins: what next mate?
[09:36] <smile> william: and it works with Compiz ?
[09:36] <cadkins> cox377 : see if you have write access now
[09:36] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Mine failed on boot, but were OK if unplugged / replugged later on.
[09:36] <emacla> How do i write less than and greater than signs?
[09:36] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Or at least then show up in usbview.
[09:37] <computer432> cadkins: so
[09:37] <cox377> cadkins: when u say user name do u mean for this kubuntu box or the fileserver?
[09:37] <computer432> sudo cp * -R /from/directory /to/direcotory ?
[09:37] <cadkins> cox377 : fileserver box
[09:37] <Yorokobi> K`zan, I have no idea. I've not had a USB device plugged in (except my mouse, which hasn't had a problem) during boot.
[09:37] <cadkins> computer432 : yes
[09:37] <cox377> cadkins: chmod: cannot access `/home/XXX': No such file or directory
[09:37] <william> smile: I'm not sure but it also has an uninstall
[09:37] <emacla> How do i write less than and greater than signs?
[09:37] <Yorokobi> computer432, no
[09:37] <qsu> yo buddy
[09:38] <smile> william: thx alot
[09:38] <cadkins> cox377 : are you on the fileserver?
[09:38] <Yorokobi> computer432, cp -R /from/* /to
[09:38] <cox377> cadkins: nope the kubuntu box
[09:38] <qsu> emacla: how is kdevelop
[09:38] <jeroen__> cox377 chmod +x and then the program ;)
[09:38] <william> smile you're welcome I just hope it works right away
[09:38] <cadkins> on a terminal type sudo ssh <ip of fileserver>
[09:39] <Yorokobi> emacla, context please? The obvious answer is to use the <> on the keyboard ...
[09:39] <cadkins> enter and then do the username and password for the fileserver
[09:39] <luckyone> anyone in here use a WMP54G, I am thinking about buying one for my midtower
[09:39] <cox377> cadkins: connection refused
[09:39] <william> Hi all, does anyone know a good TV program for my DVBT card. I'm using WinTV-HVR-1100.
[09:39] <Yorokobi> cox377, you can't ssh as root (sudo ssh)
[09:39] <Yorokobi> cox377, in ubuntu
[09:39] <emacla> Yorokobi: They doesn't work! They works just fine with windows. Maybe because it's a microsoft keyboard...
[09:40] <cox377> cadkins: sudo ssh 192.168.XX is what i did
[09:40] <cadkins> cox377 : sorry mate.  take out the sudo part
[09:40] <cadkins> cox377 : ssh 192.168.xx.xx
[09:40] <Yorokobi> cox377, ssh username@remotehost
[09:41] <Yorokobi> cox377, if the user name is different
[09:41] <cox377> yuo still connection refused for ssh 192
[09:41] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Lucky you :), I'm not sure it really is a problem, but usb errors are reported on boot and until you unplug/replug they don't show up in usbview.  Once up and running all seems to be well though.
[09:41] <srecko> hello
[09:41] <smile> william: how to install a *.run file ?
[09:41] <jeroen__> hi srecko
[09:41] <cox377> cadkins: yorokobi it all comes out as connection refused
[09:41] <K`zan> Now to figure out what to do about the initrd.img that it built that isn't the one I am using, perhaps I just need to run the updater on mine.
[09:41] <Yorokobi> K`zan, I _am_ using an older mouse (the original Intellimouse Explorer) so it may be a non-issue
[09:41] <K`zan> :-)
[09:41] <cadkins> cox377 : might have to hop on the fileserver and install ssh.  It *might*  not be installed.  I thought it was by default but could be mistaken
[09:41] <Yorokobi> cox377, is openssh-server installed on the destination machine?
[09:42] <cox377> i thought it was, i'm sure i've ssh'ed it before
[09:42] <cox377> Yorokobi: once installed does it start by default?
[09:43] <Yorokobi> cox377, it should unless there's a config problem
[09:43] <cox377> let me go c
[09:43] <cox377> brb
[09:43] <jeroen__> hi Yorokobi can u help me watch dvd with totem?
[09:44] <Yorokobi> jeroen__, totem? Try xine or kaffeine or vlc
[09:44] <jeroen__> Yorokobi: ive installed gstrreamer
[09:44] <jhutchins> jeroen__: http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html
[09:44] <BluesKaj> yeah, totem seems buggy in the later versions
[09:45] <emacla> Anyone? How can i write the greater-than and less-than signs!?
[09:45] <Letze> hiya all.
[09:45] <Yorokobi> jeroen__, go with mplayer for streaming
[09:45] <emacla> The "ordinary" key on my keyboard doesn't work.
[09:45] <yvonne_> Yorokobi: its cox377
[09:45] <eigentard> How can I edit ktorrent?
[09:45] <eigentard> like... what program do I use?
[09:45] <yvonne_> Yorokobi: sshserver was it?
[09:45] <Letze> some help is needed if someone has a little time
[09:45] <jeroen__> well if i startup mplayer and start avd it freezes
[09:46] <cadkins> yvonne : openssh
[09:46] <Yorokobi> yvonne_, the package is called openssh-server (or the meta package of just ssh)
[09:46] <frojnd> hello can someon tell me whats the repository that inclueds skype (I am running skype)
[09:46] <Letze> my java installation does not work with konqueror
[09:46] <eigentard> guys, what program can I use to edit other programs? :X
[09:47] <yvonne_> installing now, and it should auto run and be detectable from my other bopx
[09:47] <Yorokobi> yvonne_, auto start, yes. Auto detect by other box? no. SSH doesn't work like that.
[09:47] <Daisuke_Ido> what program can you use to edit other programs?  like how?
[09:48] <cox377> Yorokobi: what do i have to do to get it to start then?
[09:48] <Letze> someone can help me?
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> i suppose if you're modifying FOSS, you can use vim
[09:48] <cox377> Yorokobi: ok i'm in : )
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> edit the source and recompile
[09:48] <Yorokobi> cox377, sudo /etc/init.d/sshd (start|stop|restart)
[09:48] <eigentard> Daisuke: I want to play around with ktorrents code
[09:48] <eigentard> what do I use to do that?
[09:48] <Yorokobi> eigentard, download the source package
[09:48] <Daisuke_Ido> um
[09:48] <eigentard> ah
[09:49] <Letze> eigentard: kdevelop +Qt bilder
[09:49] <cadkins> cox377 : you can also see if it's running by : ps aux | grep sshd
[09:49] <aaroncampbell> I am using Samba Version: 3.0.24-2ubuntu1  and here is my smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11338  ...I can see the computer by browsing the campbell workgroup from a windows computer, but when I double click on it, I get "\\Aaron-linux is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this network resource. ... The account is not authorized to log in from this station."
[09:49] <cox377> cadkins: i'm in mate
[09:49] <aaroncampbell> However, I don't have a "hosts allow" option set at all
[09:49] <cox377> user@user
[09:49] <aaroncampbell> What I ultimately want to do is share one directory that only I can access (either password protected, or limited to a specific list of IPs), and a directory that anyone can browse.
[09:49] <aaroncampbell> Anyone know what might be wrong?
[09:49] <eigentard> so download the source, play with it in kate, then recompile it?
[09:49] <cadkins> cox377 : sudo chmod 777 /home/<username>
[09:49] <cadkins> should do the trick
[09:49] <Letze> my java installation seem sto fork. If I type Java -v:
[09:50] <Letze> java version "1.6.0"
[09:50] <Letze> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[09:50] <Letze> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode, sharing)
[09:50] <Yorokobi> eigentard, that's the essence of it. yeah
[09:50] <SilentDis> hello :)
[09:50] <eigentard> hrm
[09:50] <dasickis> everytime i restart my computer all my previously used applications start again is there a way to disable this?
[09:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Yorokobi: am i the only one thinking this is going to end in tears?
[09:50] <cox377> cadkins: ok cool, it went through
[09:50] <darryl_> !ftp
[09:50] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[09:50] <Yorokobi> Daisuke_Ido, or a build that fails :)
[09:50] <cadkins> cox377 : should have full read / write access now
[09:50] <Letze> but konqueror does not run the applets
[09:50] <eigentard> I don't see any ktorrent source package
[09:50] <cox377> cadkins: unfortunatly not mate, access denied
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> eigentard: what exactly are you wanting to do to ktorrent?
[09:51] <cadkins> cox377 : did you add the user to samba?
[09:51] <Letze> some hints please?
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> that you can't do with options already in the software
[09:51] <cox377> cadkins: sorry mate what do you mean?
[09:51] <cadkins> cox377 : well I guess you did since you can access it from winders
[09:51] <emacla> How do i write the less than & greater than signs in kubuntu? The 'ordinary' key on my keyboard don't work.
[09:51] <Daisuke_Ido> emacla: set your keyboard to the right layout
[09:52] <cox377> cadkins: lol is that one chalanging?
[09:52] <cadkins> cox377 : did you do sudo smbpasswd -a <username> ??
[09:52] <frojnd> what's the feisty chan??
[09:52] <frojnd> !feisty irc
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feisty irc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <frojnd> !feistyirc
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feistyirc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <Daisuke_Ido> frojnd: #ubuntu+1
[09:52] <Yorokobi> emacla, the "ordinary" keys should work. Open kate and type each key individually, perhaps you're using an alternate keyboard layout
[09:52] <cox377> cadkins: under filebox ssh or under my own kubuntu box?
[09:52] <Letze> please, if someoone here can't hel me can someone tell me an address for konqueror on irc?
[09:53] <jarle> in konqueror, when i select to movie files and select [Open with mplayer] , how can I make it start mplayer with the two files as arguments, and NOT start two instances of mplayer_
[09:53] <Daisuke_Ido> i can tell *buntu is gaining popularity
[09:53] <cadkins> cox377 : you have a user already on the fileserver so now you have to add a password for that user to be able to user Samba.  just do the SSH thing and do sudo smbpasswd -a <username>
[09:53] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Are you logged into the windows system as aaroncampbell?
[09:53] <Yorokobi> cox377, cadkins I think you guys are working on two different things. cox377 are you working with SSH or Samba now?
[09:53] <cadkins> cox377 : on the fileserver via ssh.
[09:53] <SilentDis> Letze: this is #kubuntu, we can probably help you with most things.  what is your question/problem? :)
[09:53] <cox377> cadkins: user name being the kubuntu box
[09:53] <cadkins> Yorokobi : he got SSH running and is using from one linux box to the other
[09:53] <Letze> oh Silent: can't run Java applet in konqueror
[09:53] <cox377> Yorokobi: im in ssh
[09:54] <Yorokobi> cadkins, then why are you talking samba still?
[09:54] <Letze> but Java correctly installed
[09:54] <Yorokobi> Letze, downgrade to sun-java5-* instead of sun-java6-*
[09:54] <emacla> Yorokobi: Wich keyboard model should i use?
[09:54] <cadkins> Yorokobi : after samba is install and everything, you still have to add the user to Samba.  Correct?  *THAT* is why I am still talking about samba
[09:55] <Letze> ah, it was only a version problem?
[09:55] <SilentDis> Letze: i've personally not done anything like that, i tend to use firefox (swiftfox, actually) as my browser.  I believe that if konquerer encouters a java app on a webpage, it should work though.  are you trying to run a local .jar or something?  you might wanna check out !java info bit too, to make sure everything you need is installed :)
[09:55] <Daisuke_Ido> emacla: where are you located, and what keyboard layout do you use?
[09:55] <Letze> for downgrading there is an apt-get downgarde command? :)
[09:55] <Yorokobi> cadkins, okay but chmod 777 /home/someone is incredibly bad form
[09:55] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: no, the username is Aaron D. Campbell ...or something like that
[09:56] <emacla> I just got it to work.
[09:56] <Letze> Ok Sileny
[09:56] <cox377> cadkins: ok i ran sudo smbpasswd -a admin
[09:56] <cox377> and i go this
[09:56] <cox377> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user admin. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[09:56] <cox377> Failed to modify password entry for user admin
[09:56] <SilentDis> Letze: you can type "silent" and <tab> and it should auto-populate my name.  works for anyone.  see !tab :)
[09:56] <emacla> Hurray! I can write < >
[09:56] <Letze> SilentDis:
[09:57] <Letze> Oh! Thankyou! First time on IRC
[09:57] <SilentDis> Letze: nt :)
[09:57] <Letze> Great!
[09:57] <Letze> Thankyou SilentDis: first try to downgrade.
[09:58] <cox377> cadkins: guys?
[09:58] <Letze> SilentDis: how can i downgrade a package ?
[09:59] <SilentDis> Letze: in the ubuntu/kubuntu chatrooms, if someone says something with a ! in front of it (like !tab, !java, etc), if you need more info, type that in on a line of it's own, and ubotu (the all knowing infobot) will give you more info :)
[09:59] <Yorokobi> Letze, you have to remove it
[09:59] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: Is there something in that smb.conf that makes it so you have to have the username aaroncampbell to browse the shared contents?
[09:59] <Letze> !java
[09:59] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[09:59] <Yorokobi> Letze, downgrade can be read as remove and install older version.
[09:59] <cadkins> cox377 : sorry, @work ;)  don't user admin or root.  You have an account on the fileserver right?  something like cox377? or something?  Use that
[09:59] <Letze> Thank you all!
[09:59] <SilentDis> Letze: Yorokobi is correct.  remove the package, then use synaptic/adept to select an older version to install
[10:00] <ubuntu> hello. I have 2 dual headed cards on my new kubuntu work box. I have come to install the os and thought i had better do a   lspci | grep VGA           It only shows 1 graphics card. Do you think the problem is the LiveCD or would it be a hardware issue/bios   ??? Thanks all
[10:00] <Letze> You're precious!
[10:00] <cox377> cadkins: sorry mate i donmt have an account on the fileserver
[10:00] <cox377> when i say a file server its just a linux box with a load of files on a linux box
[10:01] <SilentDis> ubuntu: are you running 2 PCI-e cards in sli mode?
[10:01] <Yorokobi> Letze, there are separate packages for Sun Java 1.5 and Sun Java 1.6. A lot of java apps won't work on 1.6 so its better (for now) to use 1.5 (sun-java5-* in adept/synaptic)
[10:01] <crazy_penguin> Good night to all1
[10:02] <Letze> My version is 1.6. I am downgrading. Now I try!
[10:02] <srecko> crazy_penguin, good night
[10:02] <chewychomp> im goin nuts, i switched nvidia cards 5700 to 5200 and i cant get nvidia-glx to work - completely removed, then reinstalled nvidia-glx and restricted kernels and restricted driver manager, i reconfigured xserver with -phigh and a regular reconfigure...what else can i try?
[10:02] <ubuntu> SilentDis: No, but i have the motherboard configured to run two cards. Note: i am going to make a multiseat setup were each user has a graphics card. Does this mean i would need sli ? I   thought i only needed sli if i wanted to run 2 cards together for more graphics power. Thoughs ?
[10:03] <cadkins> cox377 : there has to be at least one...
[10:04] <SilentDis> ubuntu: the whole SLI setup is only for more graphics power yes.  i've never seen a 'multiseat' setup... 1 'puter, 2 keyboards, 2 mice, 2 monitors...  thus 2 users, right?
[10:04] <ubuntu> SilentDis: Yer
[10:04] <SilentDis> ubuntu
[10:04] <SilentDis> ubuntu: I can see how that would work, though i've never done anything like it myself.  sounds like an interesting project for me to play with sometime.  ;)
[10:05] <ubuntu> SilentDis: I have just bought. E4300, 4gb ram, 2x nVidia 7600, 2 dell 24 inch monitors for this project
[10:06] <ubuntu> SilentDis:  As you can image, i am keen to get it working. :)
[10:06] <chewychomp> lol for school kids?
[10:06] <SilentDis> ubuntu: wow, nice setups for the users of said boxen :)  may i ask what 'end result' you are attempting to achieve?  is this for a business or school environment, or simply a 'for fun' project at home?
[10:07] <ubuntu> SilentDis: ASk away. Its for a work@home studio type thing. Exiting stuff
[10:08] <ubuntu> sp
[10:08] <SilentDis> ubuntu: as it is, the most i've ever done in such realms is to setup small diskless thinclients and had a decent machine running everything in a closet :)
[10:08] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: Sorry, my battery backup freaked out, and I lost power to everything plugged into it (even though we didn't have a power outage).  Did you reply to my question about needing to be aaroncampbell in windows?
[10:08] <ubuntu> SilentDis: cool
[10:10] <chewychomp> im goin nuts, i switched nvidia cards 5700 to 5200 and i cant get nvidia-glx to work - completely removed, then reinstalled nvidia-glx and restricted kernels and restricted driver manager, i reconfigured xserver with -phigh and a regular reconfigure...what else can i try?
[10:10] <SilentDis> ubuntu: i shouldn't say 'diskless' i guess.  they had 256mb CF drives to boot off of, run an xserver, and connect to a remote xclient.  they worked GREAT, were totally silent, and it was just about the easiest 'network' in the world to administer. I was sad to hand it off to the IT guy at the hotel I built it for!  lol
[10:10] <Letze> SilentDis, Yorokobi: i've purged Java 1.6 and installed 1.5 but seems that now there's nothing like /usr/bin/java
[10:11] <SilentDis> !envy | chewychomp
[10:11] <ubotu> chewychomp: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[10:11] <ubuntu> SilentDis: nice! i am going to try and put the rig under the stairs and run extender units via cat5 cable.
[10:11] <aaroncampbell> chewychomp: Does this affect you: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20/+bug/98641
[10:12] <SilentDis> off to the day job for me.  take care all!
[10:12] <Yorokobi> chewychomp, is the 5200 a GeForce2 ?
[10:13] <chewychomp> 5200
[10:13] <Flying_Eagle> hi
[10:13] <chewychomp> oh no
[10:13] <Yorokobi> I'm going to guess no
[10:13] <chewychomp> not legacy
[10:13] <Flying_Eagle> if any official kubuntu-dev is reading now: id suggest dropping https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuNewsletter
[10:13] <Flying_Eagle> brb
[10:13] <Yorokobi> chewychomp, k, that's where I was headed but you seem to be on top of it
[10:14] <chronos> hi all
[10:18] <wilman> when i set a output plugin in amarok or xine like : pcm.duplicate it resets to default after restart
[10:18] <wilman> what to do?
[10:20] <aaroncampbell> chewychomp: did you check that link I sent?
[10:22] <aaroncampbell> I am using Samba Version: 3.0.24-2ubuntu1  and here is my smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11338  ...I can see the computer by browsing the campbell workgroup from a windows computer, but when I double click on it, I get "\\Aaron-linux is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this network resource. ... The account is not authorized to log in from this station."
[10:22] <aaroncampbell> However, I don't have a "hosts allow" option set at all
[10:22] <aaroncampbell> What I ultimately want to do is share one directory that only I can access (either password protected, or limited to a specific list of IPs), and a directory that anyone can browse.
[10:23] <aaroncampbell> Anyone know what might be wrong?
[10:24] <chewychomp> ya, i dont know if it has to do with that
[10:25] <jarle> Any reason why the linux-source is installed as .tar.bz2??? Why would I want to have it installed in the form of an archive??
[10:25] <aaroncampbell> chewychomp: what happens when you do: sudo locate wfb
[10:26] <chewychomp> finds it
[10:26] <aaroncampbell> chewychomp: do you get "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so"
[10:26] <Yorokobi> jarle, the kernel source packages gives you the .tar.bz2 from kernel.org. There's nothing in the source package to "install"
[10:26] <chewychomp> yes
[10:27] <jarle> Yorokobi: it does not include patches by the ubuntu staff?
[10:28] <aaroncampbell> chewychomp: then that won't be it...That was the problem with mine...
[10:29] <Yorokobi> jarle, I dunno ... based on the package description I would guess no
[10:29] <aaroncampbell> I don't know much beyond that
[10:30] <jarle> Yorokobi: You would need the source for your current running kernel to compile the nvidia drivers for example..
[10:30] <DarkED> hey all, I have a small issue ... my screen isn't centered. It's a laptop so it SHOULD be centered :)
[10:31] <DarkED> there's a small black space on the left and half the 'X' on the top right corners of maximized windows is cut off
[10:32] <DarkED> is there any way i can manually center it? I'd say it's about 10 pixels off
[10:32] <jarle> Yorokobi: according to the package description it DOES include ubuntu's patches..
[10:32] <Yorokobi> jarle, the desc I read didn't *shrug*
[10:34] <jewfro-Macabbi> I've got a kde problem, my main user cannot start kde, "cannot open kstartconfig", but my other user can...
[10:36] <lm_> hey there can anybody give me a helping hand.... ive just formatted an old windows disk via gparted in gnome... how am i going to "mount" so that i can use it like another home dir?
[10:42] <jhutchins> !info ndiswrapper
[10:42] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:43] <mono555> hi
[10:47] <jhutchins> !info ndiswrapper-utils
[10:47] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1-5 (edgy), package size 8 kB, installed size 48 kB
[10:48] <jhutchins> !info ndiswrapper-utils-1.8
[10:48] <ubotu> ndiswrapper-utils-1.8: Userspace utilities for ndiswrapper. In component main, is optional. Version 1.18-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 28 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:49] <dasickis> !info suspend
[10:49] <ubotu> Package suspend does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:50] <LiveKubuntu_ian> Any reason why lspci | grep VGA only shows a single card when there are two graphics cards plugged in ?
[10:50] <dasickis> !info suspend2-userui
[10:50] <ubotu> suspend2-userui: user-space interfaces for software suspend2. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.3-1 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 168 kB
[10:54] <Buron> Hi, I'm trying now 7.04 beta and can't find a solution that works for my problem, I get an "can't access tty"
[10:54] <Buron> this happens in the boot proccess of the live cd
[10:55] <solo> Hey
[10:55] <solo> I'm on step 5/6 of the live CD install, and it seems to be taking a very long time to load up the partition, It doesn't normally act like this, anyone know why?
[10:55] <junocdx> Can anyone tell me if there are any good ATI drivers yet?
[10:56] <solo> what card?
[10:56] <junocdx> radeon x700
[10:57] <solo> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[10:57] <solo> its in there
[10:57] <junocdx> does it work?
[10:57] <solo> should do
[10:57] <solo> its thier official drivers
[10:58] <junocdx> I havn't used linux in so long I've forgotten everything I knew...
[10:58] <solo> lol
 hi folks, I got an update notification from the updater today and after it started installing its throwing an error  with "/etc/udev/rules.d/25-dmsetup.rules"  It wants me to tell it if it should keep my current config or what
[11:01] <N6REJ> What should I tell it?
[11:01] <LiveKubuntu_ian> How would i go about telling the LiveCD about a second graphics card?
[11:01] <chewychomp> why?
[11:02] <Yorokobi> N6REJ, use konsole and 'sudo apt-get upgrade' adept chokes on that update because you need to answer a question that it doesn't (but should) know how to handle
[11:02] <Powerking89670> How do I force a device to unmount....
[11:02] <Powerking89670> my CD Drive is being a bitch
[11:02] <Yorokobi> N6REJ, or say yes :)
[11:02] <N6REJ> Yorokobi: roger, thats where I'm at.  ty.
[11:02] <chewychomp> i dont think u can use sli w/o nvidia-glx, and u ussually cant use nvidia-glx w/o installing
[11:03] <solo> Omg !slap installer, it just doesn't wanna work =/
[11:03] <N6REJ> ok, now gotta reboot :(
[11:03] <N6REJ> brb
[11:03] <jaevel> I have the live cd running currently, is there a way i can save the net-tools pkg to the HDD?
[11:03] <Powerking89670> Ok, whats the command to restart the desktop and its icons?
[11:03] <chewychomp> can=cant
[11:04] <mistknight> hi, I'm using edgy and sometimes when I login I get "SDP failed to start"
[11:04] <Buron> still can't boot the damn cd... seems it's a common problem....
[11:04] <mistknight> a couple of times before the message goes away
[11:04] <DARPA> .
[11:04] <DARPA> nick RS
[11:05] <Buron> i'm trying all kind of combinations with the boot parameters :-(
[11:05] <mistknight> it doesn't happen all the time, which is kinda strange
[11:05] <francisco> hola
[11:05] <Buron> and still get the /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[11:06] <Buron> I found this thread in the foruns, but didn't help much http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=386688
[11:06] <francisco> i need a bluetooth sniffer free sombody know?
[11:06] <mistknight> I suspect it has something to do with the service load order
[11:06] <mistknight> but I don't know how to fix it :(
[11:06] <Nick227> Buron: what u using kubuntu?
[11:06] <Buron> yes
[11:06] <Buron> 7.04
[11:07] <Nick227> Buron: u burn cd yourself?
[11:07] <N6REJ> that appears to be better :D
[11:07] <francisco> i need a bluetooth sniffer free sombody know?
[11:07] <francisco> please help me
[11:07] <Buron> I tried 6.10, but couldn't get the wifi working correctly.. so I'm jumping to 7.04 to see if it's fixed... but can't boot it ...
[11:08] <Buron> yes,
[11:08] <Buron> are you suggestion to burn it in a lower speed ?
[11:08] <Nick227> Buron: yeh
[11:08] <Yorokobi> Buron, did you try the nacpi boot option ?
[11:09] <Buron> I reading about it know... going to give a try
[11:09] <Buron> yes
[11:09] <Yorokobi> Buron, er noacpi
[11:09] <francisco> please help me
[11:09] <francisco> i need a bluetooth sniffer free sombody know?
[11:09] <Buron> nacpi nalapic acpioff irqpoll.....etc...etc.. :-S
[11:09] <Yorokobi> Buron, acpi=off ?
[11:09] <Buron> yes.. sorry.. mispelled
[11:10] <gulash> gh
[11:10] <mistknight> any help would be greatly appreciated :-(
[11:11] <francisco> i need help :(
[11:12] <Buron> burning at 4x :-S
[11:13] <mitah> Hi! i got probs, after 5mins non-activity my screen goes black, i disable the powersaving thingy but still my screen goes black? someone got any solution ?
[11:13] <adz21c> Hi, since i upgraded my CPU motherboard etc I have been unable to use mencoder, it fails with the message "illegal instruction" anyone have any ideas why?
[11:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !btscanner
[11:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btscanner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !info btscanner
[11:14] <ubotu> btscanner: ncurses-based scanner for Bluetooth devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-3 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 420 kB
[11:14] <Daisuke_Ido> francisco: ^^
[11:14] <Nick227> does anyone know how i can keep my open dns name server ip's from being over written each time i reboot? (i think its cause of dhcp)
[11:15] <BluesKaj>  changd my sources list from edgy to fiesty and did sudo apt-get upgrade , but 'sudo apt-get -f -y dist-upgrade' doesn't do anything :(
[11:15] <mitah> :[
[11:15] <Nick227> the open DNS webpage has instructions for ubuntu but not for kubuntu and xubuntu
[11:15] <rex_> leave
[11:16] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, did you 'sudo apt-get update' first?
[11:16] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: why wouldn't you just use the upgrade tool?
[11:16] <BluesKaj> yup
[11:16] <adz21c> Nick227: for that kinda stuff they are all same thing
[11:16] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, update not upgrade
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, it fails
[11:16] <Daisuke_Ido> and did you make sure to spell "feisty" right?
[11:17] <mitah> Hi! i got probs, after 5mins non-activity my screen goes black, i disable the powersaving thingy but still my screen goes black? someone got any solution ?
[11:17] <Nick227> adz21c: I tried ubuntu instruction on kubuntu it didnt work
  changd my sources list from edgy to fiesty and did sudo apt-get upGRADE , but 'sudo apt-get -f -y dist-upgrade' doesn't do anything :( ((Emphasis added))
[11:18] <francisco> i need a sniffer bluetoth
[11:18] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj, did you mean to type 'sudo apt-get upDATE' ((emphasis added))
[11:18] <francisco> i need a bluetooth sniffer free sombody know?
[11:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !info btscanner | francisco
[11:18] <ubotu> francisco: btscanner: ncurses-based scanner for Bluetooth devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-3 (edgy), package size 123 kB, installed size 420 kB
[11:18] <adz21c> well kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde instead of gnome, so stuff relating to none KDE/Gnome/type specifc tends to fall under the name ubunutu, what is ur problem exactly?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> I meant update , Yorokobi, ... it's been along afternoon
[11:18] <francisco> :D
[11:18] <aaroncampbell> I am using Samba Version: 3.0.24-2ubuntu1  and here is my smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11338  ...I can see the computer by browsing the campbell workgroup from a windows computer, but when I double click on it, I get "\\Aaron-linux is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this network resource. ... The account is not authorized to log in from this station."
[11:18] <aaroncampbell> However, I don't have a "hosts allow" option set at all
[11:18] <aaroncampbell> What I ultimately want to do is share one directory that only I can access (either password protected, or limited to a specific list of IPs), and a directory that anyone can browse.
[11:18] <aaroncampbell> Anyone know what might be wrong?
[11:19] <Daisuke_Ido> no need to keep asking repeatedly, you'll make people more likely to ignore you than help you
[11:19] <francisco> ok thanks
[11:19] <francisco> (y)
[11:19] <francisco> sorry
[11:19] <mitah> blaaat
[11:19] <aaroncampbell> Daisuke_Ido: me?
[11:19] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, have you asked on #samba ??
[11:19] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: yes
[11:20] <Nick227> adz21c: I'll try it again but i think it didnt like the command
[11:20] <Daisuke_Ido> aaroncampbell: no
[11:20] <Daisuke_Ido> you're okay :)
[11:20] <mitah> can someone help me plz?
[11:21] <Nick227> adz21c: brb
[11:21] <aaroncampbell> Daisuke_Ido: ok, I know I've asked this before, but it was over an hour ago afaik...and I've still gotten no further
[11:21] <adz21c> Ni ok
[11:21] <Daisuke_Ido> mitah: you have everything disabled in the screensaver module?
[11:21] <mitah> i dunno
[11:21] <adz21c> Hi, since i upgraded my CPU motherboard etc I have been unable to use mencoder, it fails with the message "illegal instruction" anyone have any ideas why?
[11:21] <mitah> im new with linux
[11:22] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba3/
[11:22] <aaroncampbell> mitah: is it power saving?  Or screensaver?
[11:22] <mitah> but i think its disabled
[11:22] <mitah> no powersaving i disabled it
[11:27] <excitatory> damn, feisty is going to be a great release..
[11:28] <MK_Mike> whats so good about it? i havnt bettered it yet?
[11:35] <Buron> just burned the image at 4x, and still the same error.... "/bin/sh; can't access tty; " damn :-S
[11:36] <Yorokobi> Buron, are you looking to test drive Kubuntu or install it?
[11:36] <Buron> install it
[11:36] <Yorokobi> Buron, grab the alternate install CD (non-Live)
[11:37] <_Johny> !ubotu
[11:37] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:37] <Yorokobi> or, if that's what you've been using, go the other way
[11:37] <adz21c> Hi, since i upgraded my CPU motherboard etc I have been unable to use mencoder, it fails with the message "illegal instruction" anyone have any ideas why?
[11:37] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: you need to have a samba user to authenticate
[11:38] <scotty_> Okay, biggg problem
[11:38] <h0ax> hello i have just downloaded Nexuiz and are unsure how to install it
[11:39] <cpk1> h0ax: just install it with aptitude?
[11:39] <firecrotch> scotty_: what's the problem
[11:39] <h0ax> how do i do that ?
[11:40] <Yorokobi> adz21c, have you tried purging it then re-installing?
[11:40] <cpk1> h0ax: just use whichever apt frontend you like
[11:40] <scotty_> firecrotch: let me pastebin
[11:40] <h0ax> yeah but how  ... i dont knoow how
[11:40] <adz21c> Yorokobi: yes, i also downloaded the source and rebuilt the package and no good
[11:40] <cpk1> h0ax: you dont know how to use apt?
[11:40] <h0ax> no
[11:41] <adz21c> Yorokobi: is there any config files I might want to delete and see if that does anything, i would guess not but I am at a loss at the moment
[11:41] <Yorokobi> adz21c, have you looked through the mplayer forums (I presume there are some)?
[11:41] <adz21c> Yorokobi: no not yet, I guess i should lol
[11:41] <Yorokobi> adz21c, I've never used mencoder
[11:41] <cpk1> h0ax: so how do you normally install/upgrade stuff?
[11:41] <frojnd> I have question about how to set my domain to MSHOME, using samba shares.,.
[11:41] <scotty_> Okay, I can't pastebin for some reason. Something's seriously screwed up.
[11:41] <h0ax> i dunno ... do you know how to install it ?
[11:41] <scotty_> I get this error when trying to run almost anything
[11:41] <scotty_> Will not save configuration.
[11:41] <scotty_> Configuration file "/home/scotty/.kde/share/config/konsolerc" not writable.
[11:41] <scotty_> Configuration file "/home/scotty/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable.
[11:41] <scotty_> Please contact your system administrator
[11:41] <scotty_> (Sorry for the multiline)
[11:41] <scotty_> (pastebin isn't working)
[11:42] <h0ax> Yorokobi: yo
[11:42] <Yorokobi> scotty_, 'ls -l ~/.kde/share/config' paste the permissions
[11:42] <cpk1> h0ax: using aptitude you can do 'sudo aptitude install nexuiz'
[11:42] <Yorokobi> h0ax, oy
[11:42] <agresor> hello.. :)
[11:42] <agresor> i have ubuntu 6.10  can i have kde on it ?
[11:43] <cpk1> frojnd: in /etc/samba/smb.conf there should be a domain section
[11:43] <Yorokobi> so, h0ax did you install the .deb or a .tar.gz (something from the Nexuiz website)
[11:43] <scotty_> Yokorobi: There's one problem. Paste isn't working.
[11:43] <scotty_> *Pastebin
[11:43] <scotty_> I can't submit anything
[11:43] <Yorokobi> scotty_, its only 8-9 chars, paste it here
[11:44] <scotty_> Here, I'll just use a different pastebin
[11:44] <scotty_> Yorokobi: It's very long
[11:44] <h0ax> Yorokobi:  i downloded it yeah .... im trying the apt thing now
[11:44] <Yorokobi> scotty_, I'm looking for something like "drwx------ 2 username groupname"
[11:45] <scotty_> Yorokobia: For which?
[11:45] <scotty_> There's a few different ones, but a lot of different packages
[11:45] <Yorokobi> "/home/scotty/.kde/share/config/ the dir itself
[11:45] <scotty_> Such as
[11:45] <Yorokobi> scotty_, you may need to use ls -ld
[11:46] <scotty_> oh, okay
[11:46] <scotty_> drwx------ 6 scotty scotty 4096 2007-04-04 16:34 /home/scotty/.kde/share/config
[11:46] <alphi_> i just configured an installed a 2.6.15 kernel ( for use with RTAI) , but am unsure about how to add it to the /boot/grub/menu.lst area, and of what else i need to do, could anyone help me out ?
[11:47] <Yorokobi> scotty_, huh ... :/ my perms are the same. Are you trying to run the commands as a different unprivileged user?
[11:47] <h0ax> Yorokobi:
[11:48] <h0ax> Yorokobi:  is there an apt to install GCC ?
[11:48] <Yorokobi> h0ax, 'sudo apt-get install gcc' or better, if you're going to build from source, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[11:48] <scotty_> Yokorobi: No, I just logged in with my regular account. Yesterday I installed MySQL, and I rebooted this afternoon, and all the text is smaller and I'm getting that error.
[11:49] <h0ax> which is easier for me
[11:49] <Yorokobi> h0ax, are you planning on building something from source?
[11:49] <Yorokobi> scotty_, you just gave me another reason to never us MySQL :)
[11:49] <h0ax> i just want it installed so i can compile stuff
[11:49] <Yorokobi> h0ax, build-essential is what you want
[11:50] <cpk1> what do you mean which is easier? technically i suppose gcc is easier because its shorter, apt does all the work of installing for you
[11:50] <scotty_> Yorokobi: Should I try uninstalling it? I don't know what to do.
[11:50] <Yorokobi> scotty_, I doubt MySQL is related to your current situation
[11:50] <_Johny> hello guys. Is this possible to launch an graphic session for another user's account being still logged in yours?
[11:50] <frojnd> that's freaky, I added name = mshome in smb.conf under the name and path section of a shared file. And than when I go to smb://mydomain/ there is shared file (only my shared file) and when I go to smb:/ there is a note: Unable to find any workgroups in your local network.This might be caused by an enabled firewall... I mean I just added name = mshome... and beside I still can't see XP's files.. :S
[11:51] <scotty_> Yorokobi: Any idea how to fix it? :(
[11:51] <Yorokobi> scotty_, have you google'd the error yet?
[11:51] <scotty_> Not yet
[11:52] <Yorokobi> scotty_, I'd start there ... or muck with the perms (chmod -R 0755 ~/.kde/share/config)
[11:55] <Zorkmid25> fuck you.
[11:55] <Zorkmid25> fuck you.
[11:55] <Zorkmid25> fuck you.
[11:55] <Zorkmid25> fuck you.
[11:55] <Zorkmid25> fuck you.
[11:55] <Zorkmid25> fuck you.
[11:55] <Yorokobi> !ops
[11:55] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[11:55] <h0ax> excuse me
[11:56] <Yorokobi> Troller
[11:56] <luigi> ci sono italiani?
[11:56] <h0ax> si
[11:56] <Yorokobi> !it | luigi
[11:56] <ubotu> luigi: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:56] <luigi> mi spieghi come funziona?
[11:59] <alphi_> can anyone here help me with kernel configuration ?
[12:00] <luigi> #ubuntu
[12:02] <luigi> #ubuntu.it
[12:02] <luigi> #ubuntu.it
[12:02] <mihi_ignosce> luigi, /join #ubuntu-it
[12:02] <pollyo> Hello
[12:05] <dauoalagio2> hello i am trying to have two panels, i right click on one of them and go to add new panel > panel. and it creates the other.  when i right click it and try to configure the panel it only lets me edit the first panel
[12:05] <BluesKaj> strange that Feisty was spelled wrong on 9/10 sites , that I visited to get info :)
[12:06] <adz21c> dauoalagio2: does it not have a combo box at the top of the configuration window that lets u choose which one you want to edit?
[12:06] <dauoalagio2> adz21c: no it doesn't
[12:06] <BluesKaj> I assumed the old rule was tue in this case "i " before "e" except after "c"
[12:07] <BluesKaj> err true
[12:07] <aseigo> or when pronounced "ay" as in "neighbour" or "weigh"
[12:07] <aseigo> you're missing the second half of the exception clause in that rule
[12:07] <aseigo> isn't english great?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> yeah
[12:08] <BluesKaj> I'm old and my spelling is getting worse as i age
[12:08] <aseigo> and, odly, "aye" is often also part of that exception
[12:08] <aseigo> as in feisty. or my last name =)
[12:08] <BluesKaj> anyway it's loading/installing
[12:09] <nixternal> well if it isn't the KDE superman himself :)
[12:09] <mihi_ignosce> what did the trick BluesKaj ?
[12:09] <BluesKaj> I forget who told me I had speeled it wrong in the repos
[12:09] <BluesKaj> :) err spelled
[12:09] <mihi_ignosce> funny
[12:10] <BluesKaj> fiesty instead of the proper spelling Feisty
[12:11] <dauoalagio2> how can i install kde 3.5.6