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=== Topic for #ubuntu+1: Feisty Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta | Ubuntu Feisty Fawn support channel | You shouldn't use Feisty on Production Systems. | Nvidia drivers 97xx do not support GeForce4 cards. You will need to install the nvidia-glx-legacy package to get 3d back. For Beryl users that are using GeForce4 cards see #ubuntu-effects to get your cards working with Beryl or use Xgl+beryl+GeForce cards. | Release date is the week of April 19
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Mongoosefail06:04
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Mongoosehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2399174#post239917406:16
Mongooseif anyone cares to comment on the beagle issue later06:16
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chemicalvampHobbsee if i close konsole, will it exit chroot, and unmount ?06:23
Hobbseechemicalvamp: just hit ctrl+d to get out of the chroot06:24
chemicalvampand to unmount?06:24
chemicalvampi wanna start fresh along with the log06:24
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shawnranyway to get beryl/compiz running with nvidia legacy drivers on 7.04?06:28
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RAOFshawnr: Yes.  Beryl will work (with copy-mode rendering, and possible artifacts due to the poor GLX+Composite support of those drivers)06:30
RAOFshawnr: And both will work with XGL (wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager/Xgl)06:30
shawnrthanks06:30
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shawnrRAOF, when I try to enable desktop effects in 7.04 it doesn't start, I thought it was all already pre-installed and ready to go, am I doing something wrong?06:33
catidshawnr: hello again.. still trying to get desktop effects eh?06:35
shawnryea ;(06:35
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shawnrsux, had no problem with this same pc on dapper06:35
chemicalvampHobbsee sweeet i got apt-get update to connect06:35
catidwhen you run beryl from a terminal does it spit out an error message?06:35
RAOFshawnr: Desktop-effects won't work for you, at least not without other configuration.06:36
catidusually it will say something like "GLX missing!"  if you've not set it up right06:36
RAOFshawnr: It only works when your drivers support the required stuff, and the nvidia-legacy drivers don't.06:36
RAOFIt *should* work after you set up XGL, and Beryl should work (also with some manual configuration)06:36
catidRAOF: what exactly *is* XGL?06:36
shawnrXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".06:37
catidshawnr: add this line under Extensions in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:  Load "glx"06:37
shawnrwhen i run: 'glxinfo'06:37
catidand restart X by logging out and hitting ctrl+alt+backspace or rebooting06:37
shawnralready in there06:37
shawnrLoad"glx"06:37
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catidoh then i guess your drivers don't support it ?06:38
catidthe one from nvidia.com does06:38
freezadoes the -13 kernel update still break systems?06:38
RAOF!xgl | catid06:38
ubotucatid: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:38
RAOFshawnr: Have you actually enabled your restricted drivers?06:39
shawnr"Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers"06:39
shawnri've enabled nvidia legacy06:39
shawnri think06:39
RAOFshawnr: What *is* your graphics card?06:40
shawnrnvidia 440 go06:40
RAOFshawnr: "lspci | grep VGA"06:40
shawnrwasn't on legacy a few months ago lol06:40
RAOFOh, you're waiting for that bug to be fixed.06:40
RAOFRight.06:40
shawnr01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 420 Go 32M]  (rev a3)06:40
catidRAOF: what bug ?06:40
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shawnr?06:41
RAOFbug #9643006:41
ubotuMalone bug 96430 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 "MASTER: Request for new-legacy nvidia drivers (9631)" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9643006:41
catidah06:41
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RAOFThat one :)06:42
catidshawnr: i'd recommend downloading the drivers from nvidia.com and installing those instead until they get it working again06:42
aldinhi, anyone tried vmware on 2.6.2006:42
RAOFcatid: I *really* wouldn't.  They'll make it more difficult to use the repository drivers once they're available.06:42
shawnris beryl already installed from the ubuntu cd?06:42
RAOFNo, but Compiz is.06:43
RAOFIf you had a card with open-source 3D support, you could turn it on on the livecd :)06:43
catidRAOF: ah maybe i shouldn't be making recommendations.. i build a lot of things myself instead of using the packages06:43
shawnrwow nice06:43
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catidthat's cool06:43
shawnrso install drivers from nvidia site then attempt to enable desktop effects?06:44
catidshawnr: RAOF says it's not recommended06:44
RAOFshawnr: Wait for that bug to be fixed, then *successfully* enable desktop-effects.06:44
shawnri hope its soon06:44
shawnr;p06:44
aldinis there any other virtual machine other than VMware-workstation-5.5.2-29772.tar.gz that i can use on ubuntu for free06:44
RAOFIt's annoying to use the nvidia.com drivers.06:44
shawnrhad compiz running on dapper it was nice06:44
catidyeah have to re-run it every time i rebuild the kernel *shrugs06:44
RAOFaldin: qemu/kqemu?  KVM?06:44
shawnri see the bug is rated HIGH06:45
aldinRAOF, are they "OK" i mean quality06:45
shawnrthats always good06:45
RAOFcatid: And you then can't easily install the drivers in the repository.06:45
shawnrso no compiz, my card reader still isn't working....06:45
RAOFaldin: KVM uses the hardware virualisation stuff, so that's cool.  I'm not sure how you rate the quality of a VM, though :)06:45
catidyeah i've had to build the drivers for ipw3945, but i wanted to make patches to that wireless driver anyway06:45
catideverything else is in the kernel right now for me06:46
shawnrand don't think i will ever be able to get my pocketpc to sync lol06:46
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shawnrat least i finally got my wireless working06:46
catidjust got lucky =)06:46
RAOFcatid: ???  My 3945 has worked out of the box, with unencrypted/WAP/WPA/WPA2 :)06:46
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aldinRAOF, well i can at least install and use other OS-es without problems06:46
catidRAOF: yeah but can yours do injection?06:46
catidRAOF: had to add that myself06:46
aldinRAOF, how do i set KVM on ubuntu+106:46
RAOFInjection?06:46
RAOFaldin: No idea.06:46
catidyeah for aircrack06:46
aldinRAOF, ok06:46
RAOFSorry :)06:46
Kevlarhttp://news.yahoo.com/photo/070403/481/xhm1020403173806:47
shawnrif i could get my card reader working then i could user my mini sd to ghetto sync my ppc06:47
shawnrlol06:48
catidto do any decent wep cracking you need a wireless card that you can inject raw packets into to fake handshakes and replay packets06:48
catidit's all pretty trivial to do at this point because it's so popular06:48
catidbut the card needs to support injection06:49
RAOFOh.06:49
RAOFWell, I can count the number of times I've wanted to do wep cracking on the fingers of one foot06:50
catidheh06:50
catidfeisty's networkmanager is great.  i love being able to use the key ring for networks that broadcast ESSID06:51
catidfor ones that don't it's still a bit manual06:51
RAOFAlso...06:51
RAOF!info feisty libpam-keyring06:51
ubotuPackage feisty does not exist in feisty06:51
RAOF!info libpam-keyring feisty06:51
ubotulibpam-keyring: PAM module that unlock gnome keyring. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.8-5 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 128 kB06:51
RAOFWhoops06:51
catidthat will unlock the keyring after i log in?06:52
RAOFYup06:52
catidsweet:)  had heard of it but not tried it06:52
RAOFAs long as the keyring has the same password as your user.06:53
catidoh?  hrm..06:53
RAOFYeah, a little limited06:53
catideh, i don't mind06:53
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DanaGI wish the Ubuntu kernel had the CoreTemp modules compiled.06:59
RAOFfile a bug?07:00
DanaGhttp://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0703.1/1159.html07:00
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zythhmm07:03
zythis amsn broken?07:03
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alka_trasganyone notice that if you connect with something like gnome-ppp, network manager doesn't acknowledge the connect and shows up disconnected?07:05
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bullgard4Is there a menu item to call the Evince document viewer?07:06
bofh80bullgard4, grahics > document viewer?07:07
bullgard4bofh80: There does not exist a menu item Applications > Graphics > Evince on my Ubuntu 7.04.07:09
bofh80bullgard4, oh, well sorry, there is on mine :)07:09
alka_trasgFound it!07:10
alka_trasgright click on applications, and select edit, once in the menu editor you just have to enable it07:10
bullgard4bofh80: How did you make this happen?07:10
cookiehi all, I have problem with the cluster system, anyone knows how to fix it?Errors were encountered while processing:07:10
cookie clvm07:10
cookieE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)07:10
bofh80bullgard4, read what alka_trasg said07:11
bofh80alka_trasg, nice, i never noticed that edit menu's hotlink there :)07:11
alka_trasgyep, bofh80 it's nice to add custom links07:12
bofh80alka_trasg, i've seen it once before, but i couldn't remember where it was lol07:12
bofh80zyth, what's happening to your aMSN?07:12
bofh80zyth, mine goes to login then goes kinda blank07:13
zythMy amsn tonight developed the odd behaviour of seeming to lock up when logging into an account, then spewing an error window, then just sitting with the blinking globe on login...07:13
zythyeah07:13
cookiehello07:13
alka_trasgyeah, it use to be hidden someone in the gnome menus07:13
zythI'm currently trying removing/reinstalling it07:13
cookieanyone knows anything about the clvm problem?07:13
bofh80zyth, damn, musta been an update :( was working before, i could see me little bro's webcam from his live messenger :P07:13
zythmy gf was just on it tonight too07:14
zythHuh... after removing/reinstalling it, it flat out crashes.07:14
bullgard4bofh80, alka_trasg: It works. Thank you very much.07:15
zythowner@grumpybear:~$ amsn07:15
zythSegmentation fault (core dumped)07:15
alka_trasgbullgard4: your welcome07:15
bofh80bullgard4, cool :)07:16
bofh80zyth, i can't tell if it's had a ubuntu update, but it's still the same 0.96 version, it's might be one of the libraries07:17
zythyea...07:17
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RyanRyan52When I go to Ctrl+Alt+F1, use it, then go to Ctrl+Alt+F7 it has a blinking white screen, I am using the Feisty beta, how can i fix this???i have to unplug it to fix it and restart07:17
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QwellSo, I figured out how to get wine to build from source on feisty on an amd64, if anybody is interested...07:18
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bofh80RyanRyan52, OK, you could use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart . . . .. but that will still logout (quite ungracefully) anything that was running etc and should give you a login prompt again........apart from that you might have to try and dig up an error, it's quite possibly the graphics driver? what graphics card do you have?07:20
RyanRyan52When I go to Ctrl+Alt+F1, use it, then go to Ctrl+Alt+F7 it has a blinking white screen, I am using the Feisty beta, how can i fix this???i have to unplug it to fix it and restart...Can anybody help me?07:20
RyanRyan52thanks07:20
RyanRyan521minute07:20
RyanRyan52it onboard for intel dg965wh board07:21
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RyanRyan52Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X300007:21
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bofh80and if you run '   cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver   ' does one of the lines of output say intel ?07:23
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bofh80RyanRyan52,  and if you run '   cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver   ' does one of the lines of output say intel ?07:23
RyanRyan521 minute07:23
RyanRyan52ryan@Ubuntu:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver07:24
RyanRyan52        Driver          "kbd"07:24
RyanRyan52        Driver          "mouse"07:24
RyanRyan52        Driver          "wacom"07:24
RyanRyan52        Driver          "wacom"07:24
RyanRyan52        Driver          "wacom"07:24
RyanRyan52        Driver          "i810"07:24
RyanRyan52no07:24
QwellSo, who's up for some NV audio troubleshooting?  It worked just fine on edgy..07:24
bofh80RyanRyan52, OK. PLEASE do NOT paste in the channel...07:24
Qwellnot much to say besides "I get no audio...".  I've checked the obvious stuff, modules loaded, volume up, etc07:24
RyanRyan52sorry07:24
catidQwell: i think a bunch of nvidia-related things are broken in the packaged drivers right now07:24
bofh80RyanRyan52, ok i'm just gonna check that's the correct driver for your card . . . . . . if i can...07:25
catidQwell: if you are using those ye just have to wait for them to fix things.. this is the Feisty unstable-so-we-don't-care distro07:25
RyanRyan52ok07:25
QwellIt just uses the in-kernel hd_intel driver07:25
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Qwellsnd_hda_intel, rather07:25
catidQwell: have you tried rebuilding the kernel yourself?07:25
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catidQwell: perhaps a newer version will fix that bug07:26
Qwellshouldn't need to..  the module is there07:26
choudeshhey all.07:26
catidwell yeah.. but that module services a lot of different cards07:26
catidnew cards get added, old cards get broken and then fixed later, etc07:26
catidfor example, my sound card uses that module too and it didn't work in the edgy kernel at all07:27
QwellI've seen no such reports07:27
QwellI actually did do my homework before I came here07:27
catidand it didn't work in the latest 2.6 kernel either07:27
catidso i had to apply a patch from a developer newsgroup to get it to work07:27
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catiduntil they finally merged it into the mainline kernel07:28
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Qwellsure, and if there were any reports of this card being broken, I'd do so...07:28
guesseritquestion: how can i find the migration manager in feisty??07:28
catidmy point is, go check the alsa site to see how your card is working07:28
Qwelland my counter point - I have07:28
catidthen check if your alsa version in your kernel is up to date with the minimum version07:28
catidbecause alsa does periodic merges into the mainline kernel07:29
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zythHmm07:30
zythbofh80, theres forum posts about this amsn issue too07:30
zythsomething broke it07:30
catidcatid@kuang:/usr/share/doc$ grep VERSION_STR /usr/include/alsa/version.h07:30
catid#define SND_LIB_VERSION_STR     "1.0.13"07:30
bofh80zyth, hahahah, oh well, gues we'll have to wait for another update, i wonder if they will fix it before they release a 9631 driver eh07:31
catid1.0.13 is the version you can get from the latest mainline kernel07:31
catidfyi07:31
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catidQwell: what version are you running ?07:32
Qwell1.0.1307:33
catiddid you get any error messages in dmesg or syslog?07:33
Qwellnone07:34
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catidcheck lsmod and modprobe snd_hda_intel ?07:34
bofh80RyanRyan52, i think considering it doesn't work anyway, you want to try the apparently unstable version.........do you know how to use Synaptic ?07:34
Qwellalready loaded07:34
catidtry unloading it and reloading it then check dmesg and syslog07:35
RyanRyan52yes07:35
Qwellcan't unload - in use07:35
RyanRyan52whats it called07:35
catidoh yeah right07:35
catidokay well that's about where my personal experience ends07:35
bofh80RyanRyan52, xserver-xorg-video-i810-modesetting07:36
catidwhen sound wouldn't work without any error messages last time it was because the drivers didn't support it07:36
RyanRyan52thank you07:36
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Krazytekn0Ok here's the deal, I'm running 64 bit feisty with beryl, but whenever I click a link in Thunderbird, I have to physically switch to Firefox to see the page,07:39
Krazytekn0anybody know what this is from07:39
Krazytekn0?07:39
Krazytekn0Helllloooooooooo.......07:40
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fignewKrazytekn0: give everyone a second07:41
Krazytekn0fignew, I'm just playing around07:42
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Krazytekn0just surprised no one was even talking about anything else07:42
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choudesh?07:43
Krazytekn0choudesh the answer to your question is 5207:43
meborcdoes anyone know what command gives me the names of computers in my local network? :)07:43
Krazytekn0ysorry 4207:43
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Krazytekn0Where is everyone?07:44
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choudeshKrazytekn0, usually it is only a few people helping out in ubuntu+107:46
choudeshwhat do you need?07:46
bofh80choudesh, a job, a new house, my own internet connection, maybe a nice centrino laptop? :D07:47
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Tomcat_meborc: smbtree can do it...?07:47
Krazytekn0Whenever I click a link in an application other than firefox I have to then switch manually to firefox to see it, do you know how to change that?07:47
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meborcTomcat_ - will try...07:47
choudeshbofh80, get a job. ;-) it worked for me. but on the centrino laptop, go with the core 2 duo. ;-)07:47
bofh80Krazytekn0, i still have no idea what you mean heheheheheh07:47
bofh80choudesh, as long as you mean AMD and not intel :P07:47
bofh80choudesh, damn i said centrino didn't i07:48
choudeshheh.07:48
Krazytekn0bofh80 that would be an X2 not a core 2 duo which was named by the Department of Redundcancy Department07:48
bofh80l_o_0_l07:49
choudeshKrazytekn0, does it also happen with your irc client.07:49
choudesh!wiki | Krazytekn007:49
ubotuKrazytekn0: wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation07:49
choudeshclick that link.07:49
Krazytekn0choudesh, well, I use irssi, so no cause I'm using a tty07:49
Krazytekn0no link clicking to be done here07:49
choudeshKrazytekn0, heh. should have ctcp'd ya.07:49
choudeshKrazytekn0, I can reproduce it.07:50
choudeshKrazytekn0, let me try on other versions.07:50
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choudesh!bug | Krazytekn007:51
ubotuKrazytekn0: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots07:51
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Krazytekn0Yeah, choudesh, um I know all that, or I wouldn't have found the irc channel. Thanks anyway though07:55
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choudeshouch. Since it was reproduced in edgy; it was a bug.07:56
choudeshor atleast a missing focus.07:56
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catidanyone know how to remove the coloring from openoffice impress documents?  i'd like to make them all have white background and just black text08:07
jussi01catid, go to master pages on the right...08:10
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catidjussi01: then what?08:11
jussi01there should be a white page there to double click...08:12
catidclicking the white page stays at blue background08:13
catidlooking for how to change it08:13
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jussi01did you double click08:13
jussi01?08:13
jussi01that should change it08:13
catidyeah it changes it, but back to the original blue08:14
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jurp5hello08:16
catidokay i fixed the background but the text color is yellow on white08:20
catidi would like to change text color across all impress slides to black08:20
jurp5i get this error when running bash/gnome-terminal: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console08:21
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ziomal18hi all08:38
jurp5someione?08:38
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jurp5i get this error when running bash/gnome-terminal: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console08:39
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RAOFjurp5: That's a cool errror.  But no, no idea08:39
bullgard4Does Ubuntu 7.04 not support the command 'rcp'?08:39
RAOFbullgard4: I presume it does, if you install it.  You probably want rsync though instead, right?08:40
bullgard4RAOF: yes08:40
RAOFsudo aptitude install rsync?08:40
bullgard4RAOF: wait a minute...08:41
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RAOFbullgard4: Yes?08:42
bullgard4RAOF: On my Ubuntu 7.04 the DEB program package 'rsync' is installed by default.08:42
RAOFOk.  So, great.  rsync!08:43
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ziomal18When I'm in scope of wireless network my computer boots 40s longer than when no such network is present. I ran dmesg and found this time consuming thing seems to be the scanning of the available a, b, g channels (I've got Ipw3945 wireless). How can I resolve this issue? Would compiling this module into kernel help?08:48
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RAOFziomal18: No, compiling the driver into the kernel will almost certainly not help.08:48
RAOFAlso, I don't see that with my ipw3945 card08:49
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robert_okay08:52
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ziomal18RAOF: I thought so :) Hmm, I'm pretty sure that it' it - I have two bootcharts, the "slow" and "fast" one showing it - or at least I think that it's this slowing... The Wifi diode lights up 25 times during the "configuring networki interface" part of the boot08:55
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RAOF???  25 times?08:55
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ziomal18RAOF: Yep, I think that it lights 11 b/g channels and 13 a channels and in the end takes one b/g09:00
RAOFWoah.  That's not what mine does :)09:00
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ziomal18Ok, so maybe I can somehow disable this testing... or it is something different then? But when it booted fast the Wifi diode lit only 2 times09:04
RAOFMine doesn't flash at all09:04
ziomal18Hmm, interesting...09:04
FallenHitokiriI use the desktop effects with a ati9200mobile. this works basicly fine with one problem: when I boot and log in I see my desklet only on desktop 1. to get it on every virtual desktop I have to disable the effects, restart the desklet and enable the effects again. is there a work around?09:07
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cjsoftukSomewhat big issue with beryl on Ubuntu Feisty devel: "Checking for RandR extension: failed"09:12
cjsoftukI'm using Dual Screen09:12
RAOFcjsoftuk: You're using xinerama, yes?09:12
cjsoftukand yes09:12
cjsoftukXinerama09:12
RAOFI believe the solution is to disable Xinerama.  Or possibly use compiz, I'm not sure :)09:13
cjsoftukI've just spent hours trying to get Dual Screen Set up09:13
RAOFI think you can still disable xinerama and keep your 2 screens.09:13
RAOFOr, you can just enable desktop-effects instead, and get practically the same effects.09:13
cjsoftukRAOF: I have an NVidia card if that's any help09:14
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cjsoftukRAOF: I would use TwinView but it doesn't seem to work09:14
RAOFNa, not much help.  I don't have any expereince with dual monitors09:14
cjsoftukRAOF: Can't enable desktop effects09:15
RAOFOoh.  Well, I'd suggests "sudo nvidia-xconfig --disable-xinerama" or some such.  See if that still works.09:15
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atiredmachineHey, I'm having a lot of trouble changing my home folder to a new partition.09:16
cjsoftukRAOF: I'm playing Nvidia-Xconfig09:16
atiredmachineI can't seem to figure out what my partition label is for the drive (ie hd3?)09:17
atiredmachineAnybody know how I figure that out?09:17
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RAOFatiredmachine: Your partitioning program should tell you.09:19
ziomal18RAOF:  I'm thinking about filing a bug about this, I could add those bootcharts... or contact with the boot/init team and show them those - if it works on Your HW and on mine doesn't then it's definitely a bug09:19
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cjsoftukRAOF: OK, Twinview is missing 3D as well!  Xinerama was better!09:20
atiredmachineRAOF, thanks!,  I found it.09:21
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RAOFziomal18: Yeah, a bug might not be a bad idea.09:22
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ziomal18RAOF: OK, thanks!09:24
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valehruHey guys, I want to get the HP-Toolbox installed, it relies on python-qt3.  When I try and install it I get:  python-qt3: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5-0ubuntu6 is to be installed09:31
valehru              Depends: python-sip4 (>= 4.4.3-1.1) but it is not going to be installed09:31
valehru  Anyone have a clue wtf is going on?09:31
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Travelerare there daily builds of alternativ cd for feisty ?09:44
cjsoftukI have a somewhat intriguing issue with my VT8251 onboard soundcard09:45
Travelergoogle , alsa-soundcard database and forums can help you alot there09:46
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Tomcat_Traveler: Yes.09:49
valehruHey guys, I screwed up my cups config...how can I restore it to the defaul one?09:50
valehrudefault.09:50
TravelerTomcat_yes what ?09:51
Travelerdo you have a link ?09:51
Ali_ixvalehru: did you tried the web interface? localhost:63109:51
Tomcat_Traveler: Yes there is an alternative CD for feisty. Which one do you need? Beta or daily?09:52
Ali_ixvalehru: there might be some option for default settings09:52
valehruwould sudo dpkf-reconfigure cups do the trick?09:52
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Tomcat_valehru: Either unpack the original config manually, or delete it and reinstall the package.09:53
ryukentAnyone here use SCIM?09:53
valehruryukent, yes,...but Im having issues with it ..09:53
TravelerTomcat_ : i already asked :  <Traveler> are there daily builds of alternativ cd for feisty ?09:53
ryukentYou don't by any chance use it in pure X apps? Like non QT or GTK?09:54
Tomcat_Traveler: lol, sorry. Overread that. ;)09:54
ryukentAnd.... what are your issues?09:54
valehruryukent, I use it in firefox, open office, CLI....09:54
valehruI tried a different input system09:54
TravelerAnd there  arn't , i searched ftp , only live and source09:54
valehrusomeone in the chinese channel mentioned it.'09:54
Tomcat_Traveler: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/20070402/09:54
valehruand it screwed up scim for me..09:54
valehruhavent tried it since....09:55
ryukentOh dear.... so what do you use now UIM?09:55
valehrunothing at the moment.....havent had the time to fool around with it..09:55
Travelerthats older one , maby they dint have the time for 0404 one . i think i ll wait09:55
valehrubut I need something to input chinese for class...09:55
ryukentI've got the 1.4.5 unreleased packs if you want to have another go.09:56
Tomcat_Traveler: If there are no dailies for a particular day that usually means there was some bigger problem building it... so yes, either you wait, or just grab the 04-02 one and update.09:56
valehruryukent, thx for the offer but I'll decline....trying to get the printer sorted out now...and have got to do a distribution upgrade now as well....thanks though.09:57
ryukentOK. Are you using Edgy at the mo09:57
valehruno...Im on feisty.09:57
valehrudoing a partial upgrade09:57
ryukentOK... need to find a scim user still using edgy09:58
valehruhavent upgraded in a week...and there is a lot of new stuff it would seem.09:58
valehruryukent, try #ubuntu09:58
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valehruHey guys, is there anyway someone could copy their default cupsd.conf file in /etc/cups/ and send it to me?10:09
valehruclarke.jonathan at gmail.com10:10
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cjsoftukMy gnome-terminal is broken!10:11
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rambo3thats good10:11
cjsoftukAnyone know why I get an X error on Gnome-Terminal?10:12
cjsoftuk"BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)"10:13
rambo3what are you trying to do10:13
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MirrorSpockI have a quick newby question on 7.04. where can I change what desktop effects are used? (the wobbly windows are a bit much)10:35
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Tomcat_MirrorSpock: 1) desktop-effects settings program 2) gconf-editor (/apps/compiz) 3) I heard there's some compiz settings program, but I never used that one.10:36
MirrorSpockthank you10:38
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assasukassehi is there someone who uses vmware? i wish to have some hints to speed up things a bit10:49
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valehruwow, that was a large update....45 mins to download all the newest stuff..10:57
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valehru!skype 6411:15
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valehru!skype11:15
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto11:15
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valehruhey guys, I think alsa supported was not patched for my laptop's sound card.11:32
valehruRight now I have both sound coming out of my headphones and the main speaker at the same time...I cannot control one without decreasing the volume of the other.11:33
valehrucache 22.11:33
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natohey all; My internet is playing up in Ubuntu. It has been working up until this morning, i turn the pc on, it connects but it goes really slow. Some pages taking 5-10 minutes to load. SO i boot up my laptop with windows, and check out the internet...but it works fine. I go back to Ubuntu, but now it wont connect at all now. I had some problems originaly with my wireless, but it has been working fine for the past few days. Any 11:48
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natowhy is my router address 192.168.1.250 - instead of 192.168.1.1?11:51
rambo3did you change route ?11:52
natorambo3: what do you mean?11:52
rambo3sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.111:52
rambo3or : sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 wlan011:53
natobut in windows, if i type into explorer 192.168.1.1 nothing pops up, BUT, if i type 192.168.1.250 - it loads my router page11:53
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rambo3so you changed settings in router11:54
rambo3or somone else did11:55
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natorambo: should i still type that command? even though that 192.168.1.1 is not my router address?11:57
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AgReSorHello.12:11
AgReSorI need help with my apt12:12
AgReSorroot@agresor-desktop:~# apt-get update12:12
AgReSorE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:12
AgReSorE: Unable to lock the list directory12:12
AgReSorCan anyone tell me what is wrong ?12:12
kaoueteAgReSor: apt is already running12:12
Hobbsee /var/lib/apt/lists/lock is buggered.  if you'r esure there are no other apps using it, then remove teh lock12:12
CarinArrbuggered, how eloquently put;)12:13
AgReSorno.. no...12:13
AgReSornothing using it12:13
kaoueteoh so remove it ^^12:13
HobbseeCarinArr: it's a technical term.  :)12:13
CarinArrof course:)12:13
AgReSori had just installed ubuntu and when there was package listing on install i pres "SKIPP"12:13
AgReSornow i cant use apt12:13
AgReSor :(12:14
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AgReSorPlease help... how to fix it ?12:14
HobbseeAgReSor: follow what i said12:14
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Hobbseeboth halves.12:14
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Hobbseeah12:16
AgReSorsorry bug in AIM12:16
AgReSori mean GAIM :)12:16
AgReSorcan u repet what are you saing about fixint my apt ?12:16
AgReSorplease12:16
Hobbsee[20:12]  <Hobbsee> /var/lib/apt/lists/lock is buggered.  if you'r esure there are no other apps using it, then remove teh lock12:17
AgReSorhow to do that ?12:17
Hobbseewith rm12:17
AgReSori'm new in this :)12:17
Hobbseewhy are you running the development release?12:17
AgReSorrm -f  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock ?12:17
Hobbseeyou wont need the -f, and you'll need to stick sudo in front of it12:18
Hobbseeie, you shouldnt force when you dont absolutely have to12:18
Hobbseebut yes :)12:18
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Hobbsee[20:18]  <Hobbsee> you wont need the -f, and you'll need to stick sudo in front of it12:18
Hobbsee[20:18]  <Hobbsee> ie, you shouldnt force when you dont absolutely have to12:18
Hobbsee[20:18]  <Hobbsee> but yes :)12:18
AgReSor:)12:18
AgReSori dont know why this gaim closes12:19
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AgReSorHobbsee:  thanks now woring :)12:19
flodineanyone having problems with gnomebaker?12:24
AgReSorwhy is this ??? 02:21:07 AM) AgReSor: when i try to apt-get update   i get to this "99% [Connecting to cs.archive.ubuntu.com (147.91.8.38)] "  cant connect to this.12:25
AgReSoranyone have same problem ?12:25
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CarinArrAgReSor: well i can't connect to it, but it's not in my ist of sources so it isn't a problem12:27
CarinArrAgReSor: sounds like the server is down, or something is weird with it12:28
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AgReSor :)12:28
AgReSorcan i use other sources links ?12:28
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CarinArrAgReSor: as far as i know you can use any archive.. i would back up your /etc/apt/sources.list file first.. then just try changing all cs.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com12:31
AgReSoroki )12:31
AgReSor:)12:31
AgReSorCarinArr: Thanks man :)12:34
CarinArruhm technically woman, but you're welcome;)12:36
AgReSor:D sorry :D12:37
AgReSoranyway thanks :D12:38
AgReSorhehe :)12:38
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natohi; how can i install the wifi app in synaptic using my ubuntu cd? I want to use the cd because my internet wont connect. the sudo apt-get command tries to connectto the internet12:43
natowifi-radar is the name of the program12:44
natoanybody??12:45
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valehru_nato12:46
valehru_insert the cd12:46
valehru_then go to synaptic and add the cd as a repository12:46
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natoi tired that, i click ok, it asked me if i wanted to add more cd's, i chose no. But still when i try to install, it just hangs when it tries to connect to the online repositories12:47
protocol1is there a reason why my frostwire wont open....I installed java 1.6 from synaptic package manger?12:47
CarinArrnato: you might have to disable the online repositories temporarily12:47
protocol1and when I try to open frostwire from terminal its saying I need java 1.5.0 or newer?12:47
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natohow do i do that?12:48
CarinArrprotocol1: so install java 1.5.0 or newer;)12:48
protocol1all I know is that I need to tell frostwire where java is.....but I need help with routing12:48
CarinArrnato: well you can comment all lines apart from the cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list12:49
CarinArri.e. put # infront of12:49
natook i'l try that12:49
protocol1CarinArr, I do have Java 1.612:49
CarinArryou might want to back the file up first though so you don't have to remember what was and wasn't commented before that12:49
CarinArrprotocol1: oh i see12:49
CarinArrprotocol1: i don't even know what frostwire is so i'm afraid i can't really say12:50
CarinArrdoesn't it come with any install instructions12:50
protocol1http://pastebin.ca/42368412:54
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natois there not a way for me to just manually install it off the cd?12:54
protocol1CarinArr, Im sure that its something I can fix with a sim link maybe?12:54
protocol1Im not sure if anyone understands what I am trying to do here12:55
protocol1Im basically trying to tell frostwire where java is12:55
Tomcat_protocol1: What does "java -version" in console say? If there's any good output, Frostwire should use it by default.12:56
natohmm it's not on my cd. Why is everything such a headache?! my wireless now is not detecting connections, after spending 3 days to get it working. it works for one day, then dies12:56
protocol1My web browser does see Java 1.6 as I did check it with about:plugins12:56
CarinArrdid you run any updates since that might've affected it?12:57
CarinArrnato that is12:57
natonope; i stayed away from updating because i was worried this would happen. the last thing i did last night was install JACK and get my realtime running (which took me long time)12:58
protocol1Tomcat_, http://pastebin.ca/42368912:58
natoThis morning it connected to the internet, but was really slow. and now it just wont find the connection12:58
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Tomcat_protocol1: In that case, you didn't install Java properly... try installing sun-java6-bin or sun-java5-bin12:59
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natoI don't understand why it has just stopped; this computer now is XP, connected to the same router. and it works fine.01:00
natoCarinArr: is there anything you could advise01:01
protocol1Tomcat_, when I look in package manager...it says that I have sun-java6-bin already ?01:01
protocol1Tomcat_, should I go with 5?01:02
Tomcat_protocol1: Weird... wait.01:02
protocol1k01:02
Tomcat_protocol1: Try "/usr/bin/java -version"?01:02
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CarinArrnato: can you paste the output of iwconfig into !pastebin?01:03
protocol1Tomcat_, bash: /usr/bin/java: No such file or directory01:04
Tomcat_protocol1: Try reinstalling sun-java6-bin then... something can't be right...01:04
CarinArrnato: or actually since you don't have internet access on that install (i'm assuming;) can you just tell us if it shows your card there?01:04
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coz_guys looking for tixiwsh on feisty and not finding it,,= Tk interpreter with Tix01:06
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natoCarinArr: yes, it shows 'IEEE 802.11g......' next to wlan001:06
natoi really hope i don't have to go through the ndiswrapper process again, im using Broadcom bcm4306 chipset01:07
protocol1Tomcat_, I will try the 1.5.0 this time01:07
CarinArrnato: does it say anything next to ESSID: and AccessPoint:01:09
natoyes; next to accesspoint: Not-associated . there is no essid01:09
natooh yes there is, my bad01:09
natoit says off/any next to essid01:09
CarinArrokay01:09
natoit wasn't like that yesterday, or when i set up ndiswrapper. At least i don't think so01:10
protocol1Tomcat_, Installing the sun-java5-bin one fixed my issue01:10
Tomcat_protocol1: But now you only have Java 5 :)01:10
CarinArrnato, try iwlist wlan001:10
CarinArrnato: sorry iwlist wlan0 scan01:10
protocol1I will leave that on here but use the sun-java6 plugin for my browser01:11
protocol1:)01:11
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natook; it finds my router. has the address, essid01:11
CarinArrwhat does it say next to quality?01:11
nato17/100 Signal level:-85 dBm Noise level:-96 dBm01:12
CarinArrthat's a pretty horrendous quality01:12
valehru_nato, whats the name of your router?01:13
valehru_nato, are you sure that is yours?01:13
natoBTVOYAGER1500-2501:13
CarinArri struggle to get my wireless card connecting when quality is less than 50%01:13
natoi'm pretty sure; im connected to is using my laptop. The connection is good on my laptop; as an example, if i download fiesty through bittorrent, i get around 400Kbs01:14
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natoI know that the neighbour has a connection floating around, but the name is 'daydoh' not btvoyager, that one is mine01:14
CarinArrnato: is it a usb wireless card?01:14
natoPCI01:15
coz_anyone have a clue to aquire Tixwish =Tk interpreter with Tix01:15
CarinArrright so moving it about isn't an option;)01:15
protocol1Tomcat_, I have both on my machine......just use java6 plugin :)01:15
CarinArrnato: what you can do is try to connect using iwconfig..01:15
CarinArrdo you have a password for your access point01:15
CarinArr?01:15
natoAs in my router?01:16
CarinArryes01:16
natowell, i think so. because when i type 192.168.1.250 (router address) it asks for authentication. But i have never set anything like this up, so i do not have a user name or password01:16
CarinArri mean when you connect using your laptop01:17
CarinArrdo you have a give a password for the wireless01:17
natono01:17
CarinArrokay01:17
CarinArrthen just try "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid theessidofyourrouter"01:18
CarinArrthen do iwconfig wlan0 to see if it says anything after essid: and access point:01:19
natonope01:21
CarinArrsometimes you have to try it a few times before it works01:22
natoi will do a quick restart01:22
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natook after restaring it says it is connected01:25
natobut, in firefox, if i type www.google.co.uk it just says waiting01:25
CarinArrhang on01:26
CarinArrif you do ifconfig01:26
natook, essid is now BTVOYAGER, and it has an access point address01:26
CarinArrdoes you wlan0 have an ip address associated with it01:26
natono01:27
CarinArrnote ifconfig rather than iwconfig01:27
natoifconfig01:27
natoyes it has one01:27
CarinArrtry pinging your router?01:27
natoaverage 27ms, max 99ms01:28
CarinArrtry pinging www.google.co.uk01:29
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natooo, not so good. minimum - 53,5; average - 76,76; maximum - 99,40;01:30
natowhy on earth is the strength so low01:31
CarinArri get quite low signal with ndiswrapper too01:31
CarinArrthose times aren't that badthough01:32
CarinArrbut you can't connect using firefox?01:32
natogoogle loaded, but took a while01:34
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natoit wasn't this slow yesterday, and now it has disconnected01:34
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CarinArrany closed doors between you and access point?01:35
CarinArr;)01:35
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CarinArralso known as clutching at straws01:35
natowell, i just moved the router closer to the pc, and opened all doors...hmm maybe i should put it back!01:35
natoi will reboot; as that fixed it temporarily01:35
CarinArrnot sure what else to advice i'm afraid01:36
CarinArrnever had qualities quite as low as that i'm afraid01:36
natomy laptop connection strength has improved though, so thats a good sign01:36
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CarinArrare you using the repository version of ndiswrapper?01:37
natoim using the latest version, i got through a howto01:37
natook, its working now. connection is very low though01:38
natowould it be worth trying a different network manager, like wifi-radar01:39
CarinArrthey all use iwconfig so i doubt it would work any better01:39
natook, thankyou for your help CarinArr; without you i would still be scratching my head and dribling coffee01:39
CarinArrheh, don't dribble it01:39
CarinArrcoffee wastage is bad01:40
CarinArr;)01:40
natoit's maximum strength, so i doubt a little spilage with be a problem01:40
CarinArrlol01:40
natoim getting 103kbs on a package info download, so it cant be that bad01:41
natojust temperamental; if i could only get my printer to print. all would be golden01:41
CarinArrsometimes it's ndiswrapper just messing up the communication with the card a bit so quality might not ACTUALLY reflect the connection i suppose01:41
CarinArrif it drops the connection, you could try just doing sudo ifdown wlan0 sudo ifup wlan001:42
CarinArrsee if that does the trick, might save you rebooting every couple of minutes01:42
natowhat does that command do? force a connection?01:42
CarinArrno it just "reboots" the interface so to speak01:43
natothe one thing i do enjoy about linux, is that you can trouble shoot yourself; even if it means typing command, and acting up. its nicer than the windows, click and pray method01:43
CarinArrheh01:43
natoit's easier for people to help you01:43
CarinArrlaptop i have came with vista pre-installed01:44
CarinArrand would drop a perfectly good wireless connection every 30 odd seconds01:44
CarinArrjust a tad annoying, especialy as there's barely anything you can do01:44
CarinArrmicrosoft trouble shooter ended with "are you sure you answered all the questions correctly" or something to that effect01:44
natoyeh, even my father is having a better time with linux than he ever did with xp01:45
natohe is still kicking him self though for paying for xp pro just a month or so ago01:45
natois there anyway i can 'snapshot' my ubuntu system as it is, before updating. because i'm worried the updates might kill it01:46
CarinArri'm sure there is.. don't know how to though i'm afraid01:46
natook01:47
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natohave you tried opendns?01:51
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CarinArrno01:53
CarinArrnever had reason to really01:53
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robinlinthWhich date will Feisty be released? I know it's april, but what day?02:05
Teleprobinlinth, it says it in the topic, April 19th :)02:05
somian14th, IIRC02:06
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somianOh, I don't RC02:06
Telepor rather, the week of April 19th02:06
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robinlinthk02:09
robinlinthWhat new features can I benefit from?02:09
foxinesshi, today i installed a freash ubuntu beta 7.04 ,and after i try to eject my cdrom form the drive i see this "Cannot unmount volume" ,only "/home" on its own partition not F , as this message normal?02:10
Tomcat_robinlinth: Check the Beta page + the Herd pages... they detail all the big changes.02:10
foxinessoh did i need to do this on users and group i will see02:11
Tomcat_robinlinth: Or wait for the release, which will have its own "big changes" page since 6.10.02:12
zythstupid amsn02:12
foxinesswhen i look to the current user a found everything normal he has everything, but when i checked root there is nothing selected ?! did i need to reselect all ?02:15
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Ind[y] adding "vesafb=1024x768" as a kernel parameter will enable framebuffer support to my console?02:17
Tomcat_foxiness: If you cannot unmount a drive, try "lsof | grep <mountpoint>"... that way, you can see if there are still open files.02:17
Tomcat_foxiness: And no, root doesn't need to have any permissions enabled, because he's root (and thus can do anything anyway)02:17
zythamsn is still broken. grr02:19
zythn/m02:19
zythI fixed it02:19
Ind[y] adding "vesafb=1024x768" as a kernel parameter will enable framebuffer support to my console?02:19
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foxinessTomcat_: after i enable "USE CD-ROM ..." the eject work normal , maybe this related to unclean /home ,with not new user the old one before reinstall02:28
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Tomcat_foxiness: It shouldn't be related to stuff in your home. It should eject when no files on the CD are open... maybe it's a bug?02:29
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Poul^LaptopIs it not posible to save user/pass in gftp someway?02:36
agresorHow do i know what version is my ubuntu ? Daker , Edgy or Feisty ?02:36
lupine_85lsb_release -a in a terminal02:36
foxinessagresor: name -a02:36
agresoruname ?02:37
foxinesssorry lupine_85 i did this with out see your response02:37
zythNo LSB modules are available.02:37
zythDistributor ID:Ubuntu02:37
zythDescription:Ubuntu feisty (development branch)02:37
zythRelease:7.0402:37
zythCodename:feisty02:37
zythoops02:37
agresorzyth,  how do u see that informations ?02:38
foxinesshaha fast response its the old method on my /brain/lib02:38
zythagresor, lsb_release -a02:38
agresorthnx alot :)02:38
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agresori try to add some keys  but i get err02:49
agresorwget http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg -O-  sudo apt-key add -02:49
agresoris this right to do ?02:49
CarinArrwhat error do you get02:50
CarinArragresor: what's the character you've putinfront of sudo? it should be a |02:51
agresorhere you are look... : http://www.pastebin.ca/42382202:52
foxinesshttp://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/jedit/./Packages.gz: 302, notwork at all i need to try jedit02:53
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agresoraha02:53
agresorit was |02:53
valehruHey guys, I'm trying to play the new 3D chess game packaged with feisty.  However when I click on 3d I get the following error:02:54
valehruYour system does not have the required software to enable 3D mode. Please contact your system administrator and ask them to install the OpenGL Python bindings and the GtkGLExt Python bindings.02:54
valehrua little lost right now..02:54
valehruI have python-opengl installed....02:55
valehruwhat else needs to be installed?02:55
CarinArragresor: does it work now?02:55
agresoryes  :) thnx again :D02:55
CarinArrwelcome:)02:55
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valehruglChess is the name of the game02:56
foxinessvalehru: after your ^^^ i find for first time view>3D,and me to the same error i think maybe it need the driver from ati "mine 9200M"02:57
foxiness*too02:57
valehruI have 3d enabled on my nvidia driver02:57
valehru3d is working fine on this desktop02:57
valehruIm running beryl..enough said on that02:57
zdzichuBGvalehru: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=235129602:59
foxinessyou can send this like a bug ,to let the developer make an action or info the user what shloud do02:59
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DarphBobo;]  April 1903:01
CarinArrvalehru: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6348&package_id=17943703:01
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valehrulooking for a 64 bit version of these packages...le sigh03:06
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kelsa|martalliI have the feisty-commercial repo enabled, but opera is not available03:07
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kelsa|martalliAm I looking int he wrong place?03:07
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lotusleafkelsa|martalli, I'm guessing it will be available after final?03:09
kelsa|martalliok03:09
lotusleafkelsa|martalli, in the meatime see opera's website03:09
lotusleafmeantime*03:09
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kelsa|martalligotcha.  Thanks03:09
coz_ok guys just did an update today, just a short time ago, it installed a buch of compiz stuff now beryl and compiz both crash x  could you guys fix that please03:09
valehrucoz_, well...it is in beta......but ubuntu really need to test what they are releasing....it could screw up a lot of machines.03:10
kelsa|martalliI think compiz is permanently out to lunch03:10
lotusleafwell, that's one way to file a bug :P03:10
valehrudid I hear they were merging back with beryl?03:10
kelsa|martalliMy kubuntu somputer run beryl and honestly that has been much more stable than compiz03:11
agresoranyone can give me some good turtorial to install mplayer ?03:11
CarinArruhm.. mplayer is in the repository isn't it03:12
orbishmine is busted to hell, then package manager tells me to install 266 things... so i'm waiting for that to finish to troubleshoot03:12
valehruok im giving up on that chess game and 3d........someone needs to package the dependencies properly with it....03:12
CarinArrvalehru: yeah i heard that too03:12
agresorheh03:12
agresor:)03:12
valehruespecially with AMD 64...Im feeling left out in the cold with some of the stuff thats in the repos.03:12
agresorso how can i watch movies ( dvx , dvd ) with subtitles ?03:12
valehruorbish, yeah...same here.03:12
CarinArri gave up on 64bit after a week03:13
valehruagresor, mplayer supports subs03:13
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CarinArrthat was about a year ago, never gave ita shot again;)03:13
agresorvalehru, where i can get howto for ubuntu ?03:13
orbishhas anybody ever tested benchmarks between 64bit and 32?03:13
orbishdoes it really make that much of a difference?03:13
valehruagresor, www.ubuntuguide.org03:14
CarinArrwell it only really makes a difference if the applications you're using are mainly 64 bit ones03:14
valehrunot sure if its been updated to include feisty though.03:14
CarinArrthe heavier ones that i use are still 32 bit so for me it's a bit pointless03:14
CarinArrnot worth the hassle03:14
orbishright on03:14
valehruCarinArr, well the main problem I have with 64 bit is the lack of support for flash03:14
valehruyou have to use 32 bit firefox to get it installed.....which defeats the point of a 64 bit system03:15
CarinArri didn't know that was still the case03:15
CarinArri remember that being one of the issues i had, ut this is quite som03:15
CarinArre time ago now03:15
void^valehru: you can run 32bit flash in 64bit firefox with nspluginwrapper.03:15
valehruvoid^, really?  /me goes to look03:16
valehruvoid^, is it any good?03:17
CarinArrgrrrrr03:17
CarinArrneed that new router like.. yesterday03:17
orbishwhy?03:17
CarinArrevery few minutes it stalls all connections03:18
CarinArrit's really infuriating03:18
orbishbrand?03:18
void^valehru: it works pretty well for me. it's just a bit messy to install.03:18
valehruvoid^, looking for a decent guide now.03:18
CarinArra linksys somewhat or other03:18
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valehruCarinArr, update the firmware03:19
CarinArranotherone is in the post actually knowing that makes me even more impatient;)03:19
orbishi find flashing to newest firmware, backing up config and using the reset button helps mine03:19
CarinArrvalehru: updated alredy03:19
CarinArractually updating it made it slightly worse03:19
orbishi reset mine 2-3 times a week, i think bittorrent and NAT fill up ARP tables or something03:20
CarinArranyhow it's only 802.11b and all our cards are at least g now so will be nice with a better specced one anyway03:20
CarinArrmine doesn't really seem to do any better straight after a reboot03:20
CarinArrit's just crap03:20
CarinArrheh03:20
CarinArrused to work okay so not quite sure how it isn't now03:21
valehruvoid^, excellent, working perfectly now....thanks for the tip.03:25
CarinArrright rebooting and hoping the latest updates haven't broken my system completely:)03:26
CarinArrbbias hopefully03:26
lotusleafthe trick is to never reboot :)03:26
Suurorcakinda hard to survive a full dist-upgrade w/o reboot, though :/03:26
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valehrulotusleaf, thats a bit tough on a laptop, my battery has about 10 mins left....and not a power cable in sight.03:27
lotusleaf:(03:28
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lotusleafSuurorca, well.. most of the time anyway03:29
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lotusleafSuurorca, I don't reboot unless I need to03:29
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SuurorcaIment from one version to next, not regular updates ;)03:31
CarinArrah03:32
CarinArrpainless03:32
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CarinArrwell i tend to reboot after upgrades because it's damned annoying if ou bring your laptop to work, boot it up to show someone a demo, and your xserver refuses to start;)03:34
orbishcarinarr, google/check out ipcop03:35
CarinArrso i prefer checking if things work when i actually have time to fix them;)03:35
CarinArrhm.. why?03:36
orbishturn old hardware into a router, more customization than retail routers,03:36
CarinArroh i see03:37
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CarinArrit needs to be an adsl modem as well tho;)03:37
CarinArrand a wireless access point03:37
lotusleafCarinArr, that's what ctrl+alt+f1 and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop and start are for ;)03:37
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orbishlooks like people have this working with lots of different setups03:37
CarinArrlotusleaf: that can work even if it doesn't work after a reboot believe me;)03:38
orbishi'm not good enough to avoid rebooting03:38
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CarinArrhad weird nvidia things going on in the past where it would work perfectly until i rebooted03:38
webwolf_27are there any known bugs in the 2.6.20 kernel with ndiswrapper??03:39
CarinArri don't mind rebooting every now and then03:39
webwolf_27strangly my system freezes after loading the ndiswrapper when running kernel 2.6.20, but works wonderfully when running 2.6.1703:42
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protocol1is there a reason why my windows media streams wont play?03:43
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protocol1I get tranferring data and a black screen03:44
boojithi all -- anyone having troubles with system not booting properly after the latest updates?03:44
boojitfor me it's hanging when it gets to Configuring Network Interfaces.03:44
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boojitI get that line but I never get [OK] 03:45
webwolf_27boojit: using ndiswrapper?03:45
boojitIf I hit CTRL+C it keeps going and comes up, and networking is working (well at least wireless)03:45
boojitwebwolf_27: I'm not sure i'm using ndiswrapper -- at least I didn't have to do that thing where I manually pull the firmware for the wireless card out of a Windows driver03:46
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boojitwebwolf_27: I've never looked into the network driver layer on this machine -- it's always just worked03:46
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boojitI do know it's an Atheros chipset though03:47
webwolf_27boojit: then probably not, I'm using it because my atheros chip didn't want to work without it.03:47
webwolf_27boojit: probably wadwifi then03:47
boojitmadwifi, yeah03:47
webwolf_27boojit: that brings me to an idea about my system freezes03:48
webwolf_27boojit: sorry I can't help you, but you inderectly helped me ...03:50
boojitwebwolf_27: good03:52
webwolf_27but then again, nope thats not the problem03:52
webwolf_27boojit: do not use the ndiswrapper instead, it causes system freezes on 2.6.20 on my machine03:53
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boojitso if anyone is in the know about the ubuntu boot process: I'm perusing thru /var/messages, and it looks like the system is hanging at this point: http://www.pastebin.ca/42389303:54
boojityou can see where the timestamp jumps from 23.57 to 112.6103:55
webwolf_27boojit: looking03:55
webwolf_27looks like something is failing to load03:57
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aaroncampbellI have a nearly 2TB RAID (RAID 5, 5*500G drives) that I want to format.  What FS should I use for such a large drive?  It's a RAID, so it has hardware redundancy...which is useless if the FS isn't stable, so I want something reliable.  It will be used as a share (with a windows network), as well as for storing my VMWare virtual machines04:00
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FallenHi1okiriaaroncampbell: xfs performs well on fileservers04:06
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dannyhi! can i dare to try feisty on a productive system? Or is it too shaky?04:08
FallenHi1okiridanny: I run feisty since herd5 without big problems - but that's only me04:09
minimecdanny: I have almost no problem on my system...04:09
dannyminimec: ... almost ... - what problems have you got?04:10
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minimecI am playing around a little bit with beryl. No problem with so called productive apps like ooo-wirter and gimp scribus ... Some panel applets crash in combination with beryl04:11
dannyFallenHi1okiri: when did you start using feisty?04:12
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elvirolohi all04:12
FallenHi1okiridanny: I switched to feisty on the day herd5 was available04:12
dannyminimec: my hardware doesn't seem to work with beryl anyway04:12
elviroloi'm using kubuntu feisty and i doesn't seem to recognise my external usb drive04:12
FallenHi1okiridanny: I have only some small problems with the "desktop effects" and I cannot unmount a usb-hd04:12
minimecdanny: All in all I can say that feisty is a nice peace of software ... ;)04:13
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: can you mount it with mount?04:13
elviroloFallenHi1okiri: em, is it /dev/sda1 ?04:13
dannyFallenHi1okiri: usb-hd umount doesn't work? Just HD or usb-FLASH as well?04:13
minimecpiece ... ;)04:13
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: I don't know what your harddiscs are. how many do you have in you system and how many connecte via usb?04:14
elvirolo1 internal hd and 1 usb04:14
FallenHi1okiridanny: I have no memory stick here - I can't try04:14
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: there should be /dev/sdb04:14
elvirolook04:15
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: or just type cat /etc/fstab to see what your internal harddisk is04:15
boojitwell, I wasn't exactly right before --04:15
elviroloFallenHi1okiri: it /dev/hda04:15
dannyFallenHi1okiri: I am using usb-sticks and memory cards04:15
boojitit does hang, but hitting ctrl+c has nothing to do with it continuing04:15
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: than /dev/sda should be your usb-disk04:15
boojitit just hangs for about 2 minutes and then continues04:15
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FallenHi1okiridanny: my girly comes over this evening - she should have a usb-stick... if you have time I can tell you if it works ;)04:16
elviroloFallenHi1okiri: nope, doesn't work :(04:16
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: what do you do and what's the error?04:16
boojitAyway, if anyone else is seeing the computer just hang for 2+ minutes on boot since the last set of feisty updates, give your favorite boojit a shout-out04:16
dannyFallenHi1okiri: what time would this be?04:16
boojits/Ayway/Anyway04:17
elviroloFallenHi1okiri:sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb/ ; /dev/sda1 doesn't exist04:17
FallenHi1okiridanny: I think in 1 hour or 204:17
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: try /dev/s [tab]  to see if there is any device04:17
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minimecFallenHi1okiri: When you plug your stick, what does the command 'dmesg' on a console say at the end?04:18
hyljedmesg | tail04:18
elviroloFallenHi1okiri:  nope, there aren't any04:18
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dannyFallenHi1okiri: ok. i will either stay online or return later.04:18
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FallenHi1okiriminimec: just the standard messages I alwas get - ext3 filesystem, sdb1, ... nothing special, no errors04:19
Alminoteheya04:19
Alminoteanyone with 32bit fiesty here?04:19
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: reconnect your drive an do a dmesg | tail -n 2004:19
minimecFallenHi1okiri: So your stick is on sdb1 ;)04:19
FallenHi1okiriAlminote: yes04:19
boojitAlminote: i think most of us are running 32bit feisty04:19
FallenHi1okiriminimec: yes04:19
FallenHi1okiriminimec: sda is my internal drive04:19
Alminotecool :) I need libxcb.so.1 (or whatever it points to) and libxcb-xlib.so.0 32bit versions04:20
Alminotecould you possibly send it?04:20
Alminote(needed for quake3 :D)04:20
FallenHi1okiriminimec: I also can unmount it via commandline, only in gnome I get a "cannot eject volume"04:20
elviroloFallenHi1okiri: it doesn't appear i'm afraid04:20
boojitAlminote: holdy04:20
minimecFallenHi1okiri: And the stick is not mounted automaticly, or where is the problem?04:20
FallenHi1okirielvirolo: if nothing changes there seems to be a little more wrong than just feisty04:21
minimecFallenHi1okiri: Do you mount it with 'sudo' or without 'sudo'?04:21
FallenHi1okiriminimec: it's mountet but I cannot unmount it through gnome04:21
elviroloFallenHi1okiri: ok, i'll try it on another pc04:21
AlminoteI looked but didn't find them in packages as 32 bit versions, I think they simply aren't04:21
FallenHi1okiriminimec: with sudo04:21
minimecFallenHi1okiri: So mount it without 'sudo' and you should be able to unmount it.04:22
FallenHi1okiriminimec: it's automaticaly mountet - I just can't unmount it. this appeard after switching from herd5 to beta - a fresh install of feisty beta didn't solve it.04:22
CarlF1no iso's?  http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/daily/current04:22
CarlF1apr 2 seems to be the last day that had files04:24
boojitAlminote: http://www.pundo.com/libxcb.tar.gz04:24
agresori done all... Just one thing i have not clear in linux ?  HOW TO PLAY GAMESSS :)04:24
minimecFallenHi1okiri: When you plug the stick the volume gets mounted with 'sudo' privileges? This sounds strange ...04:24
Alminoteboojit, boo-yeah! thanks dude04:24
agresorI need counter strike 1.6 to play04:24
boojitAlminote: np04:24
agresorhow to do that  ? "D04:24
FallenHi1okiriminimec: yes - for me too...04:24
Alminotei think all 32bit libs should still be present in packages04:24
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minimecFallenHi1okiri: Hmmm... Is there something in /etc/fstab?04:25
boojitagresor: there's no direct answer to HOW TO PLAY GAMES, but for specific games you may want to look up either Wine or Cedega04:25
FallenHi1okiriminimec: no04:25
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boojitI don't play CounterStrike myself so can't speak to that specific game. Cedega has an impressive list of games supported under linux though.04:25
minimecFallenHi1okiri: And if you change something in the gnome-volume-properties?04:26
FallenHi1okiriminimec: hm... I'll try it in a moment, just have a visitor04:27
minimecFallenHi1okiri: np04:27
Alminoteboojit, q3 works again :)04:27
agresorIs cedega free ?04:27
lupine_85no04:28
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boojitagresor: no04:29
agresorso... i hope that wine support CS :D04:30
boojitagresor: you can find about support for your favorite game under cedega here: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/04:30
Alminotewine supports CS more or less04:30
Alminotesadly there's no wine in 6404:30
Alminoteatleast.. I don't have it in 64bit packages anymore (my home 32bit fiesty has it)04:31
agresorAlminote,  did u try to play CS on wine ?04:31
Alminoteyes, had some success, but I didn't test much04:31
Alminotenot much of a CS player04:32
FallenHi1okiriminimec: nope. can't change something - owner root. (external drive=yes, removeable=no)04:32
agresorheh cool :)04:32
minimecFallenHi1okiri: And if you unmount it on a console and mount it without 'sudo'?04:33
FallenHi1okiriminimec: doensn't work, I can only mount it as root. (I don't have it in my fstab)04:34
minimecFallenHi1okiri: Ok. I am sorry, but I cannot help you.04:35
FallenHi1okiriminimec: no problem04:35
agresorAmaranth,  how works with wine ?      "wine  example.exe" ?04:35
FallenHi1okiriminimec: firefox is the only x-application I use so theres no point in not unmounting it via umount ;)04:35
jussi01agresor, yeah, thats how wine works04:36
agresorlol i start04:37
agresorwine  Sam2.exe04:37
agresorand i got 640x48004:38
agresorresolution :S04:38
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agresorhow to fix resolution ? :S04:38
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Poul^Laptophey, i am sitting by a firewall and each time i have to ssh to get acces to the internet.  ssh -T -l username host ect and it then promt me for the password to the user. Is it posible to make so it automatic remember the password each time?04:41
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Poul^Laptophey, i am sitting by a firewall and each time i have to ssh to get acces to the internet.  ssh -T -l username host ect and it then promt me for the password to the user. Is it posible to make so it automatic remember the password each time?04:42
Tomcat_Poul^Laptop: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3070904:42
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Poul^Laptopso the server need to support it?04:43
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DanaGe1000: eth0: e1000_request_irq: Unable to allocate MSI interrupt Error: -2204:48
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Toma-ok, i installed fesity. was great fun. playing same-gnome and blackjack while waiting :) tried to install ndiswrapper and went fine, but theres no wlan0 interface getting made. and yes, i did ndiswrapper -m and its aliased to wlan0 and modprobed, but still, no wlan0.04:53
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valehrudoes anyone here use gpsd with ubuntu?  is there any nice applications that display GPS information in a gtk window ?04:54
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SuperTeeceHi all05:01
Poul^LaptopTomcat_, I cant use that guide, as the host do not support it05:01
Tomcat_Poul^Laptop: Bad luck then... I don't know if there are any ways to save SSH passwords.05:02
SuperTeeceSo far Feisty has had the best out-of-box wireless support I have seen to date in Linux. This only issue I have is that if I lose signal for any reason, I can not reconnect unless I reboot. Any Ideas?05:02
Poul^LaptopTomcat_,  ok - its because of the -T in the ssh connection .  "You may only connect without a pseudo-tty!"05:03
Toma-SuperTeece: i cant even get a wlan0 with my wireless 8-/05:03
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SuperTeeceToma mine is recognized as eth005:04
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Toma-bizzare!05:04
SuperTeecewhich card do you have?05:04
Toma-bog standard rtl8180L chipset05:04
Poul^LaptopMaybe someone can help me with that, when i wanna make a connection in the ssh config file so i can just ssh <shotcut>.  I have no clue what to write for the -T (You may only connect without a pseudo-tty!)05:04
SuperTeecedrivers installed?05:04
Toma-tried modprobe the drivers, tried ndiswrapper05:04
Toma-no luck.05:04
SuperTeecetry fwcutter05:04
Toma-is it locally available?05:05
SuperTeecelet me check05:05
Toma-also, im trying to only follow the UBuntu user guide so i can file bugs :)05:05
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SuperTeeceToma it is in the Universe05:06
SuperTeeceah, well that is good05:06
Toma-and gosh. i try running the restricted drivers manager, and it says Im "All good"... so i turn desktop effects on to see if i am, and BAM. white screen of death.05:06
SuperTeeceI try to use it as I would normally05:06
Toma-seems a bit suss.05:07
SuperTeecenvidia?05:07
Toma-yeh05:07
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SuperTeeceluckily I am on a laptop running intel graphics05:07
Toma-heh. it really is quite unstable imho!05:07
SuperTeeceI'm about to dualboot my desktop, it has nvidia so it will get 6.1005:07
Toma-so within about 2 mins of use, i have no gui, and no network.05:08
Krazytekn0Issue : When I click a link anywhere other than in Firefox, firefox opens the link but firefox does not automatically become the active application, is there a way to fix this05:08
SuperTeeceI've used dapper, edgy, redhat7 through fedora core 1,3, and 5, suse, this has been my favorite so far05:09
Krazytekn0Also, don't just refer me to the forums, bugtracker, or issue bot commands to me, this is not helpful05:09
SuperTeeceKrazytek0 you mean it opens in the background?05:09
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Krazytekn0SuperTeece exactly I couldn't think of how to say it05:09
XifGuys, what's the relation between Feisty and Devil's Pie?05:10
SuperTeecehold one, let me look around05:10
Toma-SuperTeece: apart from the BulletProofX exploding in a blaze of white, and the mysterious network device, its pretty good :)05:10
SuperTeeceToma, also the windows migration tool did nothing for me at all during the install, lol05:10
Toma-SuperTeece: hah. yeh i got a little option about gaim, firefox and something else... pfft!05:11
Toma-well i might dive back in. bbl.05:11
Xifdoes it get installed on Feisty by default?05:11
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Chr1831hello05:14
tygerg'day room. anyone else having problems with the adode acrobat firefox plugins since the last update?05:14
Chr1831my kicker wont let me edit the items...., i have edited the menu yet none of the changes take affect :-\ (i am running kubuntu 7.04)05:14
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Krazytekn0tyger, are you on 64 or 32 bit?05:15
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tyger3205:15
SuperTeeceKrazytekn0 are you good with config files?05:15
Krazytekn0SuperTeece, Yeah, I'm comfortable with doing some editing05:15
Krazytekn0tyger, I've had trouble but I thought it was just cause I hacked together a 32bit firefox05:16
Krazytekn0tyger whenever I click an pdf link it won't open in the browser... same thing for you?05:17
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SuperTeecesorry, I lost connection05:17
SuperTeeceKrazytekn0 are you good with config files?05:17
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tygerKrazytekn0: what happens is that FF freezes, and the cpu goes to 100%.  i thin have to kill FF and acrobat.05:17
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Krazytekn0SuperTeece yeah, I'm pretty comfortable with them05:18
Krazytekn0tyger, hmm, that's not what's happening to me. ... I'd report it as a bug05:18
SuperTeeceok I have a link for you to checkout, may have something you can play around with to get that working05:18
Krazytekn0tyger this is the fun of Beta05:18
SuperTeecehttp://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/firefox/tabs_config.htm05:18
Chr1831where do i report a bug?05:18
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zakgetting 404 errors when apt tries to install gamin0/libgamin0... what's with this?05:19
Chr1831i really wanna edit my kicker lol05:19
Krazytekn0SuperTeece thanks I'll check it out05:19
Krazytekn0!bug05:19
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots05:19
SuperTeecein the system menu05:19
tygerKrazytekn0: i will, i just like to check first.05:19
Krazytekn0!bug | Chr183105:19
SuperTeeceChr1831 in the system menu05:19
ubotuChr1831: please see above05:19
Chr1831thanks :D05:19
Chr1831does it matter that i run kubuntu?05:19
Krazytekn0tyger, sorry I couldn't help you05:19
Krazytekn0Chr1831 no it doesn't matter05:20
tygerKrazytekn0: no worries.  i'm used to beta testing.  i work with solaris 10 and freebsd too. :)05:20
ryan_I installed a unstable graphics driver for intel gma last night, I used the pachage manager. Now this morning I cant get into gnome. its just blank. I tried sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart, that didnt help. So how can install the old driver using the tty thing(Im new to linux)05:21
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RobHuI did a dist-upgrade in feisty, but it broke my system. Beforehand I made a lvm snapshot of / Is there a command that will restore / to the state it is in the snapshot?05:23
zakryan_: hopefully you'll sort it out... but if you're new to linux, why are you using a pre-release distro?05:23
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ryan_because i couldnt get the other versions of ubuntu to install, it wouldnt even start the live cd05:23
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ryan_it worked for the beta tho05:24
Krazytekn0ryan_, do you know the name of the old driver you were using05:24
ryan_no05:24
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ryan_thats my problem05:24
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protocol1 is there some reason why I cant play windows media streams in my mplayer?05:24
Krazytekn0ok we'll try vesa, should work for just about everything just slow05:24
Krazytekn0ryan_ I'll be right back with the directions05:24
ryan_ok thanks05:24
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CarinArrprotocol1: do you have w32codecs installed?05:25
protocol1Im thinking that I need to configure something right or install a plugin05:25
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darxhi folks05:25
protocol1CarinArr, I believe so?05:25
darxvideo doesn't work with beryl and ATI x30005:25
darxany suggestions?05:26
CarinArrnot sure then, that'd just be the first thing i'd try;)05:26
darxit shows up as a black screen05:26
Toma-Ok Sitting here in front of a black screen, nvidia module is loaded, xorg.conf has it specified, yet it still wont work. Ideas?05:26
Krazytekn0ryan_ ok from tty first thing you're going to do is copy your xorg.conf (display and input config file) so if it totally borks you can get it back.05:26
CarinArrToma-: have you checked the xorg log?05:26
Poul^Laptopis there a flag to enable for the cp command so if the target folder ~/.vim/doc/ dont exist then it automatic create it?05:26
Krazytekn0ryan_ the command is sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /ect/X11/xorg.conf.old05:26
Toma-CarinArr: ee no drivers found05:27
CarinArrToma-: can you !pastebin your xorg.conf?05:27
CarinArr!pastebin05:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:27
CarinArrheh05:27
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Krazytekn0ryan_ next you'll edit xorg.conf with sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:28
CarinArrPoul^Laptop: you can make a script for it i suppose05:28
protocol1CarinArr, well I am using realplayer to watch my streams...but I figured I could get better quality with something else05:28
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ryan_ok05:28
CarinArrprotocol1: sorry i don't know.. i don't realy watch streams05:28
coz_does anyone have alink to the list of this mornings updats for feisty?05:28
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Toma-CarinArr not without alot of messing around... The driver is set to nvidia, dri and glx are in modules..05:29
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amxthis morning update seems to have broken "screen"05:29
Joe_CoTis there any ati legacy package for feisty?05:29
shawnrhey guys05:29
ryan_ok05:29
Krazytekn0ryan_ next go down to the section called device and where it says Driver   "whatever"  replace that with Driver   "vesa"05:29
amxI get "Cannot make directory '/var/run/screen': Permission denied"05:29
Poul^LaptopCarinArr, so theres no default option for it?05:29
amxany idea?05:29
CarinArrcoz_: have you checked /var/log/dpkg.log?05:29
Krazytekn0but it has to be in Section Device05:29
CarinArrif you've already installed them05:29
coz_CarinArr, no let me so that now05:30
Toma-Also, can u turn desktopeffects off from cli?05:30
ryan_ok05:30
CarinArrToma-: what is the device identifier for the card?05:30
shawnrany new news on the new legacy drivers yet?05:31
CarinArramxmy screen works fine05:31
Krazytekn0then to save, you use the write out command which is control + O  (letter o not zero)05:31
Toma-Generic ;/ its a nvidia 620005:31
shawnrhope this issue is resolved soon05:31
lotusleafshawnr, subscribe to the related lp in progress page05:31
ryan_ok05:31
shawnrwhere?05:31
shawnri would like to be updated ;p05:31
lotusleafshawnr, I don't have the link handy05:31
Krazytekn0then you restart and cross your fingers :O05:31
lotusleafshawnr, but see my thread on ubuntuforums.org05:32
CarinArrPoul^Laptop: not that i know of05:32
shawnris it the bug report page?05:32
orbishquestion for you i-don't-restart-under-any-circumstances people... just fixed beryl, i go into restricted drivers manager, and it wants me to restart, anything i can do to trick it? already restarted gdm05:32
lotusleafshawnr, regarding legacy drivers05:32
amxCarinArr: you have a /var/run/screen dir I presume?05:32
Poul^LaptopCarinArr, ok05:32
lotusleafshawnr, search by my nick and "legacy"05:32
lotusleafshawnr, the link to the lp page for that is there05:32
ryan_how do i restart?05:32
lotusleafshawnr, more details in my post05:32
shawnrcool05:32
coz_CarinArr, you know of any reports of x crashing when trying to use compiz or beryl? I have one fellow on edgy as well witht he same problems after this mornings updates both of which apparenlty have updated xorg among other system files05:32
CarinArrToma-: so it doesn't actually list your nvidia card in the Device section?05:32
Krazytekn0exit nano with control + X05:32
shawnri will check that out thanks05:32
lotusleafshawnr, if you subscribe directly to the page on lp you will be notified by email yw05:32
Joe_CoTi see stuff about nvidia legacy? anything about ati legacy?05:32
Krazytekn0then type sudo init 605:32
ryan_ok05:32
ryan_thanks05:33
Toma-CarinArr, nope.05:33
CarinArrcoz_: yeah, i get that everytime i update xorg.. is he using the nvidia drivers from nvidia?05:33
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CarinArrToma-: maybe try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:33
Toma-CarinArr, it shows in lspci tho05:33
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coz_CarinArr, well i am using them and x is crashing like crazy ...wha tis the solution05:33
Toma-Yeh tried that three times05:33
Krazytekn0SuperTeece you having connection problems today?05:33
CarinArrToma-: sorry.. don't know.. but i think that's where the problem lies, in it not recognising that it's an actual nvidia card in xorg05:34
CarinArrmaybe google?05:34
orbishi figured how to fix nvidia-legacy if someone needs help with that05:34
CarinArrcoz_: try reinstalling the nvidia drivers05:34
CarinArrthat works for me05:34
coz_CarinArr, ok thanks05:34
CarinArrjust ./NVIDIAwhatever --uninstall05:34
CarinArrthen install again05:34
SuperTeeceKrazytekn0 yeah, but voluntary ones, trying to nail down an issue05:34
Toma-CarinArr, ok thanks..05:35
CarinArrsorry Toma-, can't think what else to suggest05:35
orbishwhat card, Toma-05:35
SuperTeeceif I lose wireless connection I can not reconnect unless I reboot05:36
Toma-Yeh its making me confused ;/05:36
SuperTeeceI was just trying the ifdown / ifup commands and they did not help05:36
CarinArrToma-: do you have an onboard video card as well?05:36
Toma-orbish, 6200 nvidia. The module loads fine05:36
Toma-CarinArr, i do, but its disabled05:36
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Toma-Thank god my lil nokia 770 has irc ;)05:38
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CarinArrif you do lspci, does the bus id correspond to the one in org.conf?05:38
CarinArrxorg.conf even05:38
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victory747Hi, suddenly this morning ubuntu(feisty) boots with "waiting for root filesystem" and it seems it's because the volume group is not activated.  If I activate it after waiting times out, it goes on and boots.  Any ideas what's up?05:39
Toma-Yep05:39
CarinArrodd05:40
coz_CarinArr, thanks workd just fine05:40
CarinArryou using the packaged nvidia drivers or the ones from nvidia's website?05:40
Toma-I think i have an idea..05:40
Toma-Packaged05:40
CarinArrcoz_: cool:)05:41
Krazytekn0Man you don't want to be running feisty if you have a slow internet or download restriction, I've probably downloaded a Gig of updates this week05:41
coz_CarinArr, apparently a strange way to go about dealing with updates :)05:41
lotusleafKrazytekn0, I've been using/updating feisty ubuntu+kubuntu @ 56k since beta with no problems05:42
Krazytekn0ick lotusleaf05:42
lotusleafKrazytekn0, could be worse ;)05:42
orbishno.05:42
Toma-I really hope the r818x bug gets fixed ;/05:43
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lotusleafKrazytekn0, I even downloaded the feisty beta iso @ 56k :P05:43
CarinArrcoz_: yeah i know.. i just stumbled across the solution after noticing that xorg had been updated.. thought i'd give reinstalling the drivers a shot05:43
shawnrlast night i had 20 updates waiting to be downloaded, this morning i have 59 lol05:43
lotusleafshawnr, the key is to stay awake and just keep hitting update ;)05:44
shawnrits cool though, just lets you know ubuntu team is working hard05:44
coz_CarinArr, well i was pretty upset after the updates going to every relvant channel and complaining05:44
nomasteryodagood to see bugs are getting worked out thou05:44
coz_CarinArr, :)05:44
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nomasteryodalotusleaf, just set a cron job to do that for you every 2 hours05:44
b0xii2.6.20 + ati + 64bit is making me crazy05:44
nomasteryoda=D05:44
lotusleafnomasteryoda, :)05:44
Trewasit would take a rich man to use ubuntu with a modem here (every minute costs with a modem), much much cheaper to use adsl/cablemodem :)05:44
lotusleafTrewas, wow05:45
Toma-I have 3 modules trying to control agp. Pffft05:45
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CarinArrcoz_: well this is sort of the problem with beta05:46
coz_CarinArr, yeah I realize that been using beta ubuntu since the beginning but this one really ticked me off :)05:46
CarinArrheh05:46
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CarinArri just blame nvidia by default whenever my xserver crashes05:46
CarinArrnormally a good place to start error checking05:47
SuperTeeceI'm getting alot of lag today, think I'll powercycle my routers and modem, back in a few05:47
CarinArrpeople actually use modems nowadays?;)05:47
CarinArrwell.. dialup ones05:47
coz_CarinArr, mm not sure that fits here though sounds more like an xorg problem but then ... it is fixed and i will have to pay attention to that next time05:47
orbishno, it's some sort of sick joke05:47
shawnri blame nvidia 4 moving my card to legacy lol05:48
orbishmy ti4600 cost $300 like 2-3 years ago :/05:48
CarinArrwhat card shawn?;)05:48
shawnrim on laptop, 440 Go05:48
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lotusleafIMO it was very "odd" timing for all these cards to hit legacy just as feisty's set to get desktop bling.. tinfoil hats blazing!05:48
CarinArrcoz_: very possibly xorg problem but my blame nvidia thing worked in that it fixed the problem.. temporarily;)05:49
coz_CarinArr, :)05:49
CarinArrshawnr: really? i had that in my old latop05:49
CarinArrlaptop even05:49
Toma-All the legacy cards suck at beryl anyway05:49
shawnryea, it is/was a popular laptop card05:49
CarinArri dunno.. i was running 3d graphics software on the 440 go less than a year ago, pretty sure it would have run beryl okay (though possibly ever so slightly slow);)05:50
shawnrlol, thats funny, cause a few months ago on dapper i was running compiz just fine lol05:50
shawnrminus the rain effects05:51
Toma-Ok, ive got X running, but still a white screen of death.05:51
CarinArrnow i have the pleasure of a 512mb nvidia 7600 in my laptop and a quadrofx on my desktop05:51
CarinArr\o/05:51
CarinArrhhe05:51
Toma-I gotta turn off these desktopeffects via cli ;<05:52
CarinArrToma-: did you say you had three agp modules running?05:52
shawnrcrap... brb05:53
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Toma-Yeh. sis-agp, amd64-agp and everybodys favourite, agpgart05:53
CarinArryou running 64bit ubuntu?05:54
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shawnrback ;p05:54
Toma-Nope05:54
Toma-64bit cpu tho05:55
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CarinArrokay05:55
CarinArrjust checking;)05:55
Toma-Haha. Failsafe Gnome even runs desktop-effects05:55
Toma-How totally stupid05:55
shawnrCarinA, did you install a new gcard yourself or buy a new laptop05:55
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CarinArrnew laptop;)05:56
CarinArrdon't think i could physically have fit it into my old dell05:56
shawnrcarinarr, how much?05:56
CarinArrheh05:56
CarinArrmmm05:57
CarinArr1450 gbp05:57
CarinArrbut it's a work machine i didn't pay for it myself;)05:57
shawnrmine was like 1600usd a few years ago05:57
shawnrtop of the line then lol05:57
Toma-Yay! Fixed.05:57
shawnrbottom of the barrel now05:57
CarinArrwhat is it shawnr?05:57
CarinArrwhat did you do Toma-?05:57
shawnrcompaq presario r3000 amd 6405:58
Toma-Failsafe terminal > desktop-effects > Disable05:58
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shawnr1gig ram05:59
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CarinArrToma-: do the desktop effects use any sort of composite?05:59
cypher1can anyone please tell me, what is meant by held packages.. i am having problems upgrading to Feisty Beta05:59
Arkowhen I switch from VT to X (alt+F7) I got black screen with mouse pointer. That occurred after update. Any help?05:59
Toma-CarinArr, yeh, its all compiz06:00
shawnrcypher1, how are you trying to upgrade... what method?06:00
CarinArrshawnr: ah.. i had a dell inspiron 8200 which was pretty mch top of the line when i got it as well.. really liked it untl my harddrive decided to die completely06:00
Toma-Ok. Onto the wireless.06:00
cypher1shawnr, mounted iso through loopback and executed cdromupgrade06:00
CarinArrToma-: might've worked if you'd enabled the composite stuff in the driver06:01
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shawnrCarinArr, lol. mine too, i had to replace the HD when i first started using linux because Fedora f'd it up somehow06:01
Toma-Probably. Just exploring atm06:01
CarinArrcool.. have fun with the wireless;)06:01
shawnrcyphase, what type of connection do you have06:01
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shawnrcypherl, *06:02
cypher1shawnr, i choose not to use the network06:02
CarinArri'm still using a really old kernel on my desktop with edgy because i had to custom compile ndiswrapper to convince my wireless to sort-of-work in the first place06:02
shawnrCarinArr, i actually was able to get my wifi working with wrapper06:02
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CarinArrdon't dare touch it now06:03
CarinArrmy laptop luckily worked out of box06:03
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shawnrCarinArr, when i installed the ndiswrapper it found my card immediately, took me a while to realize that I had to blacklist the default broadcomm wireless driver that came with the distro06:04
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nomasteryodahas beryl been replaced by compiz on feisty?06:04
Toma-Right, i hate ndis. It wont let me make wlan006:04
shawnrCarinArr, once i did that it worked just fine with no other configs06:04
nomasteryodaknowing of the merger..06:04
cypher1shawnr, any clue ?06:05
CarinArrshawnr: mine wouldn't even install the driver with the packaged ndiswrapper06:05
CarinArrnomasteryoda: not sure.. i installed beryl using the wiki on the beryl site;)06:05
shawnrcypherl, no sorry, i was going to suggest running the update manager to update to feisty06:05
cypher1i filed bug 102889 for it..06:06
ubotuMalone bug 102889 in update-manager "Upgrade to Feisty (Kubuntu) Beta failed" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10288906:06
boojitHI just wanted to check with others again: has anyone having issues with boot hanging for 2+ minutes since the last batch of feisty updates?06:06
CarinArrboojit: no. but my boot did seem to take slightly longer than normal06:06
shawnrCarinArr, i installed the front end for ndiswrapper and worked like a charm06:06
CarinArrnot several minutes though06:06
nomasteryodadid it stop to scan your drive ?06:07
CarinArrshawnr: you're lucky;)06:07
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boojitnomasteryoda: no...it's somethign to do with networking. When you watch the boot information screen,06:07
Krazytekn0is there a way to get the gnome panel to show ALL windows not just the ones in the current viewport/workspace06:08
CarinArri checked everywhere for compatibility with ubuntu, got a card that was supposed tow ork out of box, only to find that there had been a slight update to the chipset06:08
CarinArrstory of my life06:08
boojityou get to configuring network interfaces.... and then it hangs for 2+ minutes before you get [OK] 06:08
boojitCarinArr: interesting. What's your networking hardware?06:08
CarinArrbuiltin laptop wireless card06:08
CarinArrlemme check06:09
TelepKrazytekn0, try right-clicking on the window-list handle and select Preferences06:09
Telepthere should be a preference for showing all windows from all workspaces06:09
CarinArrNetwork controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG06:09
boojityeah see that's me too, somebody asked me if i'm using ndiswrapper and i didn't even know since i've never borked around with it -- my networking both wireless and wired has always worked right out of the box06:09
CarinArrmine worked out of box too06:09
boojitsorry "that's me too" meaning "having to check" not that i'm using an Intel card06:10
CarinArrapart from i have to do ifdown/ifup after i boot it up06:10
Krazytekn0Telep Thanks a bunch, don't know how I didn't find that already, but I'm new to gnome06:10
Infectohmm06:10
boojitI'm using an atheors-based IBM card, builtin to my thinkpad t4206:10
CarinArrheh okay06:10
Infectodid some one have problems with opera ?06:10
TelepKrazytekn0, sure no problem :)06:10
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Infectostop works after reboot06:11
Infectotfu06:11
Infectodist upgrade06:11
CarinArrboojit: i have a t42 lying about , but i haven't tried installing feisty on it06:12
boojitman just lying about? heck send it my way, i'll make sure it doesn't collect any dust!06:12
CarinArrheh06:12
hyljethinkpad recycling06:13
boojitthey are beautiful, solid machines, IMO.06:13
Toma-Yawn. De-blacklisting buggy networking module ;o06:13
CarinArrwith the ctrl key in the wrong place:?06:13
boojitthe T series that is.06:13
CarinArr:/ even06:13
CarinArrdrives me absolutely insane;)06:13
boojitmy control key isn't in the wrong place -- how do you mean?06:13
CarinArrbottom left key on my thinkpad keyboard is fn06:14
CarinArrshould be ctrl06:14
boojiton mine it's fn/ctl/alt/space06:14
boojityeah that's me too. I've been using this keyboard for so long i don't notice it06:14
CarinArryeah, but it shouldn't be fn, it should be ctrl;)06:14
boojitbut when i use a fullsize keyboard now i hit the windows key when i mean ctrl06:14
CarinArryeah that's the problem06:15
DanaGYou should see Toshiba -- to the right of the spacebar are INS and DEL, not "context menu"06:15
CarinArri can't switch between.. keep hitting fn instead06:15
shawnrCarinArr, this whole legacy thing is even messing with my wine, im trying to get some yahoo games running for my girlfriend but wine is unable to "find glx on device"06:15
DanaGI refuse to ever buy Toshiba, for that one reason.06:15
boojityepp. But really if that's the biggest complaint a guy can come up with, that's pretty darn good.06:15
CarinArrDanaG: tell me about it.. my new laptop is a toshiba06:15
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DanaGMy Gateway has fn-ctrl-win-alt06:15
boojitevery laptop keyboard seems to have its own quirks that way06:15
CarinArrthe enter key is double ide instead of double tall, putting the # in the wrong place, the ,./ keys are all narrower than all other keys, and the \| key is to the right of the arrows06:16
DanaGI have a Gateway M685.06:16
boojitCarinArr: man sounds like you should just cut your losses and send that laptop to me post haste06:16
CarinArrmakes programming very cackhanded06:16
DanaGThe two things that bug me most: I keep bumping the touchpad, and I hit enter instead of apostrophe.06:16
DanaGIt06:16
DanaGs like this06:16
DanaG.06:17
CarinArrlol boojit06:17
boojitbah, I hella program on this thing! it's just what you're used to.06:17
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CarinArrlol yeah DanaG06:17
boojitI do hit enter instead of apostrophe sometimes'06:17
CarinArri do wish this laptop had a nippleas well as the touchpad so i could turn it off06:17
DanaGOh, and my top row is esc-f1-f2-f3-f4-f5-f6-f7-f8-f9-f10-f11-f12-scroll-pause-ins-del    then   home,pgup,pgdn,end06:18
boojitthe first thing i do on a t-series is turn off the touchpad. the red dot is where it's at if you ask me.06:18
DanaGs/dot/eraser/06:18
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DanaGOddly, those three keys are (Pause/Break),(Ins/PrtSc),(Del/SysRq)06:19
CarinArrit's not a dot it's not an eraser it's a nipple;)06:19
DanaGwhere the latter is accessed with fn.06:19
penguin42CarinArr: Have you tried ringing up and asking for spare nipples?06:19
CarinArrbut anyhow, yeah.. i always used to turn touchpad off, but the toshiba doesn't have a dot/eraser/nipple which is highly annoying06:19
DanaGhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683410103906:19
CarinArrlol, mmmm no06:19
DanaGThe only thing is, my screen is frickin' dim.06:20
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DanaGIt's not an ultrabright.  However, I'm not the one that decided not to get the ultrabright for me.06:20
boojitman check out the erasers on that laptop that is hot06:20
CarinArrthe thinkpad wasn't too bad to program with apart from the fn/ctrl and esc/f1 problmems06:20
CarinArrwhich are both very annoying when you use vim06:20
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CarinArrthe toshiba keyboard is just a mess.. BUT it's a desktop replacement so i won't need to swap machines much so hopefully i'll eventually get used to it06:21
CarinArrhopefully06:21
DanaGeBay?06:21
hyljedesktop replacement ;_;06:21
penguin42hylje: He means it's heavy06:22
hylje15" displays at 1200x80006:22
CarinArrshe, but yeah06:22
CarinArr17" display here06:22
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victory747CarinArr: regarding vim, I just mapped F1 to Esc, and I've never had a problem.06:22
CarinArrvictory747: i did that.. but somehow every now and then i must glance at the keyboard and get it wrong the other way06:22
victory747They are both mapped to esc06:23
CarinArrcause regardless f the mapping i kept having help windows popping up regularly when using vim;)06:23
victory747so no matter which one I hit it works fine06:23
CarinArraaaaah06:23
CarinArryeah06:23
CarinArri shoudl've done that...06:23
CarinArrnever occured to me;)06:23
victory747and I possibly may have disabled F1 in the console.  I never use it anyway06:23
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DanaGHah, Gateway sells a 17" widescreen desktop LCD.....06:23
DanaG1280x720.  Not 800!06:23
DanaG720.  WTF?06:24
chijinthat's the HD resolution06:24
CarinArrit annoys me that you can't get as high res desktop lcds as you can get laoptop ones06:24
penguin42DanaG: They sold those 80 pixels to someone else06:25
shawnri was pissed when i bought my 19 in widescreen monitor and realized that I doesn't support 1680 errr that pissed me off06:25
penguin42CarinArr: Yeh odd isn't it06:25
hyljeim spoiled with a 1600x1200 15.4" display06:25
victory747CarinArr: Yeah, it annoys me too06:25
hyljeso im not really urged to upgrade this box anytime soon06:25
DanaGWhy the heck can't you get a desktop LCD at the same ridiculously high laptop resolutions?06:25
shawnri can get 1680 and higher on my laptop screen06:25
DanaGMy dad has a 19" 1440x900 -- and I can see the frickin' subpixels!  Ouch!06:25
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CarinArrhylje: that's what my dell was06:25
shawnrim stuck with 1440 i hate it06:25
shawnreverything is too big and cartoony looking lol, if ya know what i mean06:26
DanaGAnd who the heck thought of 1280x768?06:26
CarinArrtoshiba is 1440x900 17", which ia bit low res for me, ut a very very nice display apart from that06:26
shawnrwith there was a way to for my monitor to display 1680 but i would probably break the monitor06:26
DanaGWhat, you're so cheap that you have to get rid of 32 rows, and thus break EVERY SINGLE THING THAT NEEDS 1280x800?06:27
CarinArrlol06:27
danjamI cant access http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu/edgy/ is there a mirror?06:27
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hyljeDanaG: yeah, those silly resolutions are tricky06:27
hyljewtf is the 1366x768 from anyway06:27
DanaGAnd 1280x1024 -- it's 5:4.  Who came up with that?06:27
CarinArrdanjam: second person today having problems with cs domains06:27
CarinArrdanjam: what's that page supposed to be?06:28
penguin42DanaG: And what's wrong with that?06:28
DanaGIt means that when making wallpapers, you have to make 3 resolutions:06:28
CarinArr5:4 is a weird aspect ratio06:28
DanaG4:3, 16:10, and that one oddball 5:4.06:28
danjamCarinArr: its the list of edgy versions. Trying to get a copy of the alternative cd06:29
CarinArrdanjam: uhm.. you're in a feisty channel;) but maybe try http://www.ubuntu.com/?06:29
DanaGHmm, displayconfig_gtk lists my video driver as nv06:29
DanaGAnd I can't change it.06:29
DanaGI've manually edited my xorg.conf.06:29
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Toma-ok. whens beta2 out? :)06:32
danjamCarinArr: First time trying to get a dualboot setup without stuffing everything up. I'll wait to see if it comes back up later06:32
CarinArrtoma, not sure06:33
CarinArroddly this mornign after updating all packages, there was a "a new version of kubuntu is available" message06:34
CarinArrbut i couldn't click next to install it and after reboot the message is gone06:34
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Toma-hmm bizarre. well till the network issue with r818x is fixed, im out.06:34
Toma-cant file bugs without the net (easily)06:35
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agresoris there any good ftp client for gnome ?06:38
lotusleaf!info gftp | agresor06:38
ubotuagresor: gftp: X/GTK+ FTP client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.18-16ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 44 kB, installed size 76 kB06:38
lotusleafagresor, has ssh2 support too06:38
agresorc00l :)06:38
CarinArr"a new version of kubuntu is available!"06:41
CarinArrwhy won't you let me install it then damnit06:41
shawnryou guys really prefer KDE to Gnome?06:43
Lynoureyou? I'm not stopping you. Who is?06:43
Lynoureshawnr: I do.06:43
lotusleafshawnr, openbox w/ pypanel for the win06:43
CarinArri do06:43
Toma-e17 > all06:44
shawnrwhats the major appeal?06:44
lotusleafshawnr, I like both Gnome and KDE and the respective apps for each06:44
shawnri tried it once06:44
Gh0styxfce > e1706:44
lotusleafshawnr, choice?06:44
lotusleaf"beauty is in the eye of the beer holder"06:44
CarinArrwell i do'nt actually use kde as such.. just use more kde applications than gnome06:44
darxhow can i check if a certain library is installed?06:44
shawnrgnomefreak, but havn't used KDE that much06:44
Gh0stybeer ? where?06:44
gnomefreak?06:45
Gh0stydarx: dpkg -l | grep libraryname or something ?06:45
CarinArri used to use fluxbox, but i'm running kde and beryl now.. with kde pretty much hidden away so i can't see it;)06:45
darxGhosty thanks06:45
Lynoureshawnr: configurability.06:45
lotusleafCarinArr, do the emerald themes work for you in kde? they wouldn't for me06:45
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CarinArryeah they work fine06:46
doodadhi06:46
lotusleafhmm k06:46
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CarinArrlotusleaf: how did you install beryl?06:46
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lotusleafCarinArr, with apt06:46
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lotusleafCarinArr, it works fine in gnome06:46
doodadI tried to install beryl, and it broke my GUI.....where is the big 'make it all work again' button?06:46
lotusleafdoodad, #ubuntu-effects06:46
CarinArri installed using http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu06:46
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Karark|awayhave geforce4s been given full GLX support yet?06:47
shawnrno06:47
lotusleafCarinArr, it works right in gnome so I'm not worried about it06:47
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valehruumm...what the hell is up with firefox?  each time I press the quote button quick find pops up...how the feck do I turn it off?06:47
CarinArrlotusleaf: yeah, just saying i'm not sure if it works if you install it from another repository than the one listed there06:48
shawnranyone?06:48
CarinArrdoodad: broke?06:48
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doodadyeh, i installed beryl and nvidia drivers using a guide. but it wasn't until afterwards that i cam to understand that the new drivers do not support geforce mx 44006:49
doodadso now when i boot, the graphic GUI does not load, and i'm thrown into a terminal06:50
CarinArrdoodad: you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the line that says Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv"06:50
CarinArrthat should let you boot back in06:50
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doodadCarinArr:06:51
doodadi installed beryl and nvidia drivers using a guide. but it wasn't until afterwards that i cam to understand that the new drivers do not support geforce mx 440. so now when i boot, the graphic GUI does not load, and i'm thrown into a terminal. i want to undo it all, because i would hate to reinstall ubuntu (im not sure if i would, it took me long enough to get the internet working)06:51
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shawnrdoodad, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:52
CarinArruhm.. yes.. that's what i replied to;)06:52
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shawnrdoodad, change "nvidia"  to "nv"06:52
shawnrdoodad, then gdm-restart06:52
shawnrthere is a part of me that wishes ubuntu team would steer clear from desktop effects for a little longer and concentrate more on working the kinks out and making the environment more plug and play friendly06:53
aaroncampbellI'm trying to format a large partition (1999.9G) as Reiserfs.  However, I run "sudo mkreiserfs /dev/sdb1" and I get "Initializing journal - 0%....20%....40%....60%....80%....100%" and then it seems to stall06:53
aaroncampbellAny ideas?  Or any way that I can tell what's going on?06:54
Toma-2TB?06:54
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doodadsorry, i keep getting kicked off of freenode06:54
shawnrdoodad, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:54
shawnrdoodad, change "nvidia"  to "nv"06:54
shawnrdoodad, then gdm-restart06:54
doodadi tried that command but there is nothing in the file06:54
shawnryou typed it wrong then06:54
aaroncampbellToma-: yes06:55
Toma-sweet :)06:55
penguin42aaroncampbell: Have you tried a smaller partition first?06:55
shawnrdoodad, xorg.conf should never be empty, you must have mispelled it and it created a new file06:55
shawnrnavigate to the dir first06:55
aaroncampbellpenguin42: no...I don't have any smaller partitions that aren't being used06:55
shawnrcd /etc/X11 (thats one, one.. not L L)06:56
CarinArraaaaaaargh06:56
penguin42aaroncampbell: OK, how long have you left it at the stall? Also run a top and see what the machine is doing06:56
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penguin42aaroncampbell: How much RAM does the machine have?06:56
aaroncampbellwait...it just did something!06:56
aaroncampbellSyncing..ok06:57
aaroncampbellTell your friends to use a kernel based on 2.4.18 or later, and especially not a kernel based on 2.4.9, when you use reiserFS. Have fun.06:57
shawnrdoodad, are you running a live-cd now?06:57
aaroncampbellReiserFS is successfully created on /dev/sdb1.06:57
doodadthe file is definetly empty06:57
penguin42aaroncampbell: Now what ever you do don't get into having to fsck it!06:57
aaroncampbellI thought I'd get a progress bar of some sort...that was CRAZY fast...It was only stalled a couple mins...and it's a 2TB drive06:57
doodadshawnr: no, i booted the pc, and it goes straight to a terminal, i loging (in the terminal)06:58
penguin42aaroncampbell: It doesn't write the whole partition it just puts down some data strctures06:58
shawnrdoodad, paste the path in here your going to06:58
penguin42aaroncampbell: Out of curiosity what is your partition on - multiple SATA drives?06:58
aaroncampbellpenguin42: because an fsck will take forever?  Or because of something else?06:58
penguin42aaroncampbell: Just because the fsck will take forever06:58
doodad---> /etc/x11/xorg.conf06:59
aaroncampbellpenguin42: yep, 5*500G SATA II drives as RAID 5 on a 3Ware 9650 card06:59
shawnrthats your problem06:59
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spasticteapotHello!06:59
shawnrdoodad, X11 not x1106:59
penguin42aaroncampbell: Nice; I've got ~1.5TB on an older 3Ware card - I'm curious what performance you see on it07:00
doodadah, my bad07:00
shawnrhaha i love you arron: "So, now we look back at the threat If you dont make Linux easier to use, Im going back to Windows.  All I have to say, is if youre not willing to take the time to learn something different (its called work), then dont let the door hit you on the way out."07:00
spasticteapotI would like to bring up that under Xubuntu Feisty, gxine crashes bleeping constantly.07:00
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aaroncampbellpenguin42: well...I'll let you know some time...right now I haven't used it :)07:00
spasticteapotshawnr: I know what you mean. People sometimes forget that this is free.07:00
penguin42aaroncampbell: Have fun07:00
spasticteapotThat said, gxine is crashy-crashy under xubuntu.07:01
spasticteapotI wanna watch my movies of tiny R/C airplanes, dangit!07:01
penguin42spasticteapot: You say it's beeping?07:01
pistahi. i have a problem with apt-get...when i run apt-get update, it looks like that things went good (except Fetched 4B in 0s on last line). when i then run apt-get upgrade, it throws many errors, that file not found (http://ubuntu...something...[dot] deb)07:01
pistadon't you know, where could be the problem?07:02
aaroncampbellpenguin42: I will.  If you are curious, the 3Ware Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16816116043  and the drives: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682213607307:02
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penguin42aaroncampbell: Have you got iostat installed?07:03
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aaroncampbellpenguin42: If there are any tests you want me to run...let me know.  I'm off to fill it up now (moving everything from another system on the network...about 182 Gigs to move)07:03
aaroncampbellpenguin42: doesn't look like it07:04
shawnrdoodad, hows it going07:04
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nerdygirl_ellieHi!07:04
nerdygirl_ellieLet's try that again.  Hi all.  I am on 7.04 Beta, and have been working great until I pulled down today's updates.  Now I can't start the gnome desktop or the gnome_failsafe desktop.  I am at the gui login screen and It looks like it is trying to start gnome, but then I get kicked back to the (gui) login prompt.07:04
penguin42aaroncampbell: Well if you've got iostat then do an iostat -x 1    and do a   dd if=/dev/zero of=abigfile bs=1024k    and watch the wsec/s column until it stabilises07:04
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penguin42aaroncampbell: Should give you an idea of real write bandwidth07:05
oashjOk, i changed where it said driver and put 'nv' in there instead07:05
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doodadit is rebooting now07:05
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aaroncampbellpenguin42: getting the sysstat package07:05
nerdygirl_ellieI had compiz working jiggly windows, etc, if that helps.07:05
shawnrdoodad, did you switch 'nvidia' to 'nv' ?07:05
doodadit didnt work, 'failed to start the X server'07:06
doodadno, i couldn't see 'nvidia' just 'vesa'07:06
shawnrthats ok, whats the error07:06
spasticteapotpenguin42: Sorry...finally got it to work.07:06
spasticteapotGxine crashes, and the process manager won't let me get rid of it.07:06
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spasticteapotMy system works fine, but I've got a big gray square stuck in the center of the screen when this happens.07:07
ParrIs this the right room for support with Ubunto?  Making sure before i ask silly questions...07:07
doodadunder section 'module' it mentions GLX....is this maybe what is causing it to crash too?07:07
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doodadin the section 'device' it states; identifier 'generic video card' ; driver 'nv'; BusID 'PCI:2:0:007:09
nerdygirl_ellieHi Parr.  This is the room for Support of the Ubuntu Feisty beta.  for regular support, try #ubuntu07:10
Parrooh, cheers!07:10
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aaroncampbellpenguin42: iostat is annoying...constantly scrolling down the console like that...07:10
penguin42aaroncampbell: Nod - do   iostat -x /dev/sd??? 107:11
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penguin42aaroncampbell: That will just show the appropriate partition07:11
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pista...nevermind, looks like server side problem07:12
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doodadcan enybody else help me, it appears shawnr left.07:13
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aaroncampbellpenguin42: it still scrolls down the terminal.  It also doesn't seem to show anything though.07:13
doodadI'm trying to get my graphic GUI back, after a failed beryl install07:13
aaroncampbellaaroncampbell@aaron-linux:~/temp$ dd if=/dev/zero of=abigfile bs=1024k07:13
aaroncampbell1403+0 records in07:13
aaroncampbell1403+0 records out07:13
aaroncampbell1471152128 bytes (1.5 GB) copied, 20.9707 seconds, 70.2 MB/s07:13
aaroncampbelloops...didn't mean to paste that07:13
aaroncampbellhowever, penguin42 that is the result of the dd command07:14
dnlDoes the Ubuntu upstream package freeze affect universe packages?07:14
CarinArrdoodad: did you change nvidia to nv07:14
doodadi couldn't find nvidia anywhere in that file07:14
FallenHitokiridoodad: did you uninstall the packages and replaced the configs you changed with your backup?07:14
penguin42aaroncampbell: 70MB/s is a bit sluggish isn't it? (and with dd you tend not to get the time to sync at the end so some is still being written) ?07:14
FallenHitokiridoodad: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia should show you if it's there07:15
penguin42actually may not be that sluggish for a 3ware07:15
aaroncampbellpenguin42: not sure07:15
doodadit may be because the first time it happened, i let the software automaticaly choose a new graphics driver; which is why i think i found Vesa in the config file, instead of nvidia07:15
doodadFallenHitokiri, im unsure. i have run an uninstall command on the nvidia drivers already07:16
FallenHitokiridoodad: did you try a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:16
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johnmorri'm trying to preseed a netbooted feisty install, but it seems the installer is ignoring my preseed URL - the file is never fetched from the web server and no preseeded values are used. preseeding dapper and edgy installations in the same way works fine. /proc/cmdline shows the preseed/url directive, and setting DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 shows some debconf calls for the preseed url. do i need to change anything to preseed feisty?07:18
robert_is there an smp version of feisty?07:18
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Shaezscheok wtf, after latest patches, now on boot my laptop hangs for 30s when it says "configuring network"07:19
FallenHitokiriShaezsche: you have networkmanager running?07:19
Shaezschelo?07:19
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Shaezscheyes i do07:20
Shaezscheit only started this after latest patches07:20
FallenHitokiriShaezsche: post your /etc/network/interfaces07:20
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Shaezschewhere at07:20
doodad2okk, FallenHitokiri i just ran that command, and selected nv07:20
Shaezschein channel?07:21
FallenHitokiriShaezsche: rafb.net/paste e.x.07:21
FallenHitokiridoodad2: and - what happens when you start X?07:21
doodad2it's rebooting now07:21
phatmonkeyi am about to install ubuntu on my dad's laptop, and i thought i'd try feisty because of the network manager and things. is the beta stable enough for a new user? i don't really want to put him off. will the upgrade to the final version be simple?07:21
Shaezschehttp://rafb.net/p/2ZhyK461.html07:21
Shaezschephatmonkey it was stable for me until last updates07:22
doodad2same error 'failed to start the x server'07:22
doodad2should i go the the x server output?07:22
Shaezschei tried deleting ath and wlan entries, didnt do anything07:22
FallenHitokiriShaezsche: hm. when you right click on network-manager-gnome and go to static configuration, what do you see?07:22
FallenHitokiridoodad2: would be helpfull to have a error message ;)07:23
Shaezscheit brings up the network panel07:23
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FallenHitokiriShaezsche: yeah - some wireless devices?07:23
doodad2it says 'NV: no matching device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) foun. No devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found07:23
Shaezschenetwork settings07:23
doodad2it sounds pretty serious07:23
Shaezscheyes, wireless works fine07:23
FallenHitokiriShaezsche: is roaming mode active?07:23
Shaezschewireless, wired, and modem07:23
FallenHitokiridoodad2: can you post your xorg.conf?07:23
Shaezscheroaming is active07:24
doodad2um, only if i type it all out...07:24
FallenHitokiridoodad2: that's not the best idea ;)07:24
doodad2its pretty long too07:24
FallenHitokiridoodad2: no network?07:24
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doodad2no, because it just boots me to the terminal. is there any way i can check??07:25
Shaezscheroaming is active07:25
FallenHitokiriShaezsche: hm. I see no reason why NM isn't taking the wireless interface and why your system lags07:25
Shaezscheit is connecting to wireless07:25
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FallenHitokiriShaezsche: try to deacitivate your ethernet device07:26
Shaezschewired u mean?07:26
FallenHitokiriShaezsche: yes07:26
doodad2FallenHitokiri; the internet is definetly not working. i did a iwconfig, and no access point is associated with my wireless card07:28
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FallenHitokiridoodad2: did you get some questions about your screen while running dpkg?07:29
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doodadFallenHitokiri: is there anything else i can try???07:30
FallenHitokiridoodad: configure X by hand ;)07:30
doodadoh my07:30
FallenHitokiridoodad: http://rafb.net/p/4Z1jFe60.html  just as a hint - should look this way07:31
FallenHitokiridoodad: in line 100 it's getting interessting for you07:31
TechVistaSorry if this silly noob Q but I is running Vista,  can fiesty installer run from windows completly without a reboot ? so if I have a spare partition on my main drive I can run the fiesty.iso from a virtual disc drive such as deamon tools or do I need to still burn a disc nd installl from live?07:32
doodadwhile i'm looking at that; is there any way i can re-install the original drivers that came with ubuntu, off the ubuntu cd?07:32
nerdygirl_ellieTechvista:  for you, maybe a vmware player image would be a good way to try it out?07:32
TechVistanerdygirl_ellie: I ran ubuntu previously just wondered if the installer had changed radically ?07:34
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cliebow_anyone have a package name for java jre for feisty ppc?07:34
FallenHitokiriTechVista: with this solution problems should start when you try to write grub - Windows should complain if you try to override the boot sector...07:35
TechVistak i c is there a way round this? as using windows bootloader instead of grub07:36
FallenHitokiriTechVista: I don't believe that you can start the installation from Windows (but I'm not sure since I don't have Windows) - and believe me - you want grub not the windows bootloader07:37
TechVistaoh right , from what I read it seemed I could run the installer from windows and it would import favourites etc I guess I musta read it wrong07:39
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FallenHitokiriTechVista: if you read this it may be true - as I told you I have no windows since nearly 6 years or so07:40
assasukassei have a problem with an mp3 player, is a 512mb usb one, but ubuntu sees only 150mb free space, however in the properties it sees the correct 512...what should i do?07:41
TechVistaI just cannot seem to choose between windows and linux I like em both but its07:42
TechVista:/07:42
FallenHitokiriTechVista: then just use both - why not?07:42
TechVistaIf only both os could hit the metal at the same time07:43
robert_is there an smp version of feisty's kernel?07:43
penguin42assasukasse: When you say it only sees 150mb free space - you mean according to a df ?07:43
FallenHitokiriTechVista: hm... virtualize everything ;)07:43
TechVistavMware is excellent except it does not support wireless and tv card07:43
nerdygirl_ellierobert_:  yes, it is installed by default if you need it.07:43
assasukassepenguin42: according to nautilus07:43
FallenHitokiriTechVista: Windows and Linux running at the same time07:43
robert_nerdygirl_ellie: it wasn't installed for me.07:44
doodadFallenHitokiri; i think i'm going to install a different release, because i just can't get it to boot up. i'm unsure what i should put in the config file07:44
penguin42assasukasse: OK, from a command line do a   df -h     and find the line that corresponds to your USB device and tell me what it says in the size, used and avail parts07:44
TechVistaI been looking at colinux wich seems to run linux nativly in windows07:44
assasukassepenguin42: beside that, when i plug in, rhythmbox starts, and hangs, i have to force close it...07:44
robert_model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+07:45
penguin42assasukasse: One fuckup at a time07:45
assasukassepenguin42: /dev/sda              498M  345M  153M  70% /media/disk07:45
penguin42TechVista: How well have you found that to work?07:45
assasukassepenguin42: there is nothing on the player, is empty07:45
penguin42assasukasse: OK, that says its a 500M disc, you are using 345M - leaving 150M free ; OK - so your real problem is finding what that 345m is!07:46
TechVistanetwork has been a pain so far still not figured it out :(07:46
penguin42assasukasse: OK, ls /media/disk and tell me what is there07:46
jendao.O07:46
assasukassepenguin42: there were 350mb mp3 files, but i deleted them via nautilus07:46
penguin42assasukasse: Ah - empty your trash folder07:46
assasukassepenguin42: nothing, there nothing, and my trash is empty07:46
penguin42assasukasse: hmm ok, do an ls -a /media/disk07:47
FallenHitokiriTechVista: should be no problem with vmware thanks to nat / bridging07:47
assasukassepenguin42: thanks, there is a trash folder there07:47
penguin42assasukasse: I suspect it has your deleted files in07:47
assasukassepenguin42: how do i remove it07:48
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Linhi all07:48
Linis there  nvida driver 96xx legacy anywhere? (using feisty)07:49
assasukassepenguin42: inside there is this @  &*  ?@  ??  ?  ?  Ad  ?AR@LYl?  ?H@.@?C  @L.?J007:49
penguin42assasukasse: cd into it, then do an ls, and then use 'rm' to delete each file07:49
penguin42assasukasse: Pretty07:49
assasukassepenguin42: read only fs, i can't delete...07:49
penguin42assasukasse: OK, do the following but be really careful to type it correctly   rm -r  /media/disk/.Trash  (I assume the trash folder is called .Trash)07:49
assasukasseshould i sudo delete?07:49
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assasukassei dunno really..07:50
assasukassepenguin42: doesn't let me delete, says Ro07:50
penguin42assasukasse: if you can't delete it then I'd probably cd out of it, tell Nortilus to eject it, and then reformat it07:50
penguin42assasukasse: Make sure you always tell Nautillus to eject before removing the device07:51
assasukassepenguin42: how can i reformate it?07:51
FallenHitokirirobert_: ??07:51
penguin42erm I don't know that off hand - does anyone know Nautilus and USB drives?07:51
robert_FallenHitokiri: Per chance, do you have a sister named Kristy?07:52
assasukassethanks penguin4207:52
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assasukassepenguin42: nautilus tells me if i wanna empty trash, i said yes, but is taking long, just says preparing to delete files07:52
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assasukassei'll let it work for a while and see if it works07:53
FallenHitokirirobert_: I'm think I can be sure that I have no sisters or brothers ;)07:53
robert_heh, okay then07:53
robert_because I used to go to the same school as a Kristy Zimmerman07:53
penguin42assasukasse: Let it work - deleting 350M on a flash disc takes a while - but I'm just wondering if it got corrupted a bit hence needing to reformat07:53
robert_I don't much imagine that last name is very common07:53
FallenHitokirirobert_: you write me with 2 n and I'm from Germany ;)07:54
robert_hm07:54
robert_I'll have to check my yearbook07:54
robert_because it may be two n's07:54
FallenHitokirirobert_: and in Germany you find it really often, Zimmerman is from streich or Schweiz (please don't ask me what these to are in english)07:54
robert_heh07:55
robert_it's just a last name to me07:55
robert_but I was just curious07:55
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elvirolohi again07:57
elvirolomy usb drive isn't mounted automatically07:57
elvirolois there a way to make it work ?07:57
elviroloI can mount it manually though07:57
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ubob2kIn 6.10 my wireless worked fine. After 7.04 upgrade I don't auto-connect any more, so I do ifdown -a , ifup eth1 after reboots. Network settings hangs. What to do?08:07
elvirolo/jopin #ubuntu08:08
CarinArrubob2k: same problem as me, apparently it's not an uncommon one so hopefully will be changed soon08:08
CarinArror.. fixed should i say08:08
FallenHitokiriubob2k: delete your devices in /etc/network/interfaces and let networkmanager handle them08:09
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ubob2kFH, So don't worry about the hanging, and it should work out?08:10
FallenHitokiriubob2k: hangig?08:11
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ubob2kSystem, Admin, Network just hangs (partial display, never shows info)08:11
ubob2kCarinArr, Did you find a bug report?08:13
FallenHitokiriubob2k: that's not normal08:13
ubob2kFH, That's why I'm here. :-)08:13
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Linthere is anywhere a package for nvidia driver  1.0-9631?08:14
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umbyboyhi guys+08:17
umbyboyanyone could help me?08:17
umbyboy?!?08:18
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FallenHitokiriumbyboy: if you ask a question we'll see08:18
umbyboygr808:18
umbyboyI just installed feisty fawn beta08:18
umbyboybut using the theme HUMAN in Application I can't c the icon for Graphic08:19
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umbyboyI tried to reinstall gnome-themes08:19
umbyboybut no results08:19
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penguin42umbyboy: Have you got KDE installed?08:20
nandasunuI thinking of installing fiesty today, will I need to upgrade once the final release is out or will it automatically upgrade via the normal security updates?08:20
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FallenHitokirinandasunu: should automaitcally upgrade08:21
robert_brb heh08:22
nandasunuok08:22
nandasunuthanks08:22
nandasunuthere will be no more new features added now right?08:22
nandasunujust bug fixes?08:22
tebmy networking has been disconnecting pretty frequently on my box, first I thought it was the broadcom driver, butit works perfectly with wep, my second thought is that there are repeaters everywhere here, so my iwlist scan shows up the same ap on the same channel multiple times...maybe my network card gets confused and jumps from one to the other?08:23
tebis that a valid idea?  i want to thought-check it before i bug report it08:23
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penguin42anyone understand the kernel pnp stuff?08:26
penguin42I was trying to do some direct access parallel port stuff, it wasn't happy so I unloaded lp, ppdev, parport_pc and parport - and then I get a kernel message 'pnp: Device 00:09 disabled' - but putting them all back in it doesn't stay activated, it activates, then disables it08:27
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moonwatcherhi i am trying to understand which driver i use for my ATI 9600 on my T42 with Ubunutu fiesty08:30
moonwatcheri want to set up TV output and the second screen08:30
moonwatcherif possible08:30
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tebsorry, got confused in my client, did anyone respond?08:31
moonwatchersecond screen seemed to work, but when i had it hooked up to a projector i got weird results... the screen was split about 60%/40% when the buttom 40% was a repeat of the begining of the top08:31
moonwatcheror somethign like that08:31
DanaGHmm, Feisty has iwlwifi, but it doesn't seem to work.08:33
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DanaGEven on a completely unencrypted AP.08:33
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kupesoftHow come the macbook's x1600 video card doesn't with the feisty live boot?08:37
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agresorhello, i dont see users on right side on xchat ? how to fix that ? anyone ?08:37
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moonwatchermy "restricted driver manager" says that the ATI driver is not in use?08:38
moonwatcherplease some help, i am not even sure what i use08:39
moonwatcherthis is the default install on Fiesty08:39
moonwatcherberyl works fine08:39
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j3ganyone know a way to install java 1.6 plugin for firefox on feisty ?08:40
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j3g:(08:48
j3geveryone asleep :(08:48
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gourdinis there a iso of feisty beta which is up to date ?08:51
Adri2000there are ISOs of feisty beta, yes08:52
gourdinhow old ?08:52
PiciA few weeks, maybe.08:53
Adri2000they have been released two weeks ago, that's old08:54
Adri2000the ISOs won't be updated08:54
gourdinok08:54
Adri2000err, s/old/all/08:54
gourdinok Adri200008:54
gourdinthx08:54
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dnlIs there a script to update the filesystem.manifest file on the live cd?  (And is this necessary?)09:00
dnl(I have chrooted the squashfs and I'm simply using apt-get to install extra packages, so as to not need an internet connection when installing.09:01
ep2011Supposily the RT61 wireless card works out of the box with feisty, can anyone confirm that? in edgy it was a pain to configure09:02
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j3ganyone know a way to install java 1.6 plugin for firefox on feisty ?09:07
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CarlF1http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/python/python-wxversion  "This package provides the wxPython version selector." -   huh?09:09
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CarlF1sudo apt-get install python-wxversion = "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  python-wxversion: Depends: python (< 2.5) but 2.5-0ubuntu6 is to be installed "09:10
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dnlls /usr/bin/g++09:10
dnlls /usr/bin/g++*09:10
dnl(er.. sorry, getting my terminal windows mixed up)09:10
CarlF1ls: /usr/bin/g++*: No such file or directory09:11
CarlF1there you go :)09:11
somian... but it sounds like it is a utility to support selecting which wxPython to use.09:11
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CarlF1" This package is a dependency package, which depends on Debian's default Python version (currently v2.5)." but this is instlled: "Python 2.5 (release25-maint, Mar 15 2007, 10:53:31) " - guessing it is a bug09:12
CarlF1but don't want to report something I am this clueless abut09:12
somianIt sounds like a (packaging) bug to me.09:12
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CarlF1"2.5-0ubuntu6 is >>to be<< installed" - why "to be" and not "is" ?09:14
CarlF1wondering if my apt-get db is borked09:15
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DanaGWhat package should I install to be able to use man for C commands?09:17
DanaGSuch as 'man scanf'09:17
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PiciDanaG: I think that kind of stuff is in manpages-dev09:20
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kupesoftHow do I use the iwlwifi module included with feisty?09:22
DanaGCool, thanks.09:22
DanaGiwlwifi doesn't seem to work for me -- even with an open AP.09:22
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kupesoftDanaG: Yeah,09:22
kupesoftDanaG: I have the same problem,09:22
kupesoftDanaG: The driver will accept parameters but it's won't associate09:22
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kupesoftbrb, testing one more time09:23
K`zanUpdates have failed two days running here, is there some place this gets logged?  The updater dialog is uncopyable :-(.09:24
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kupesoftDanaG: Got it working (connecting right now using it)09:24
kupesoftI had explicitly chose an AP to associate with,09:25
DanaGHow do you do that?09:25
kupesoft(it's 5 lines...)09:25
kupesoftI'll pastebin it09:25
DanaGI like to use networkmanager, if at all possible.09:25
DanaGOtherwise, I'll just use ipw3945.09:25
kupesoftMight not be,09:25
kupesoftiwlwifi promises to be much better than ipw3945 (no userspace deamon), but it's very much in alpha testing09:26
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kupesoftDanaG: http://www.pastebin.ca/42439509:27
kupesoftWhere x = channel, essid, wep key, mac address09:27
DanaGI think I'll stick with ipw3945 for now, anyway.09:28
kupesoftDanaG: If you want to use NetworkManager, stick to ipw3945,09:28
kupesoft(;09:29
DanaGOh, one funny thing:09:29
DanaGSuspend works better in Feisty than it does in Windows XP.09:29
kupesoftWha?09:29
kupesoft(;09:29
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kupesoftI wouldn't know ;/09:29
DanaGIf I suspend in XP, the laptop will some time later wake up and hang at a black screen -- often while it's still in my bag.09:29
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micahcowanIs it possible to set certain users (my kids) up with a passwordless mode?09:36
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garklein_13micahcowan: why not just give them a simple password?09:42
kanpachihello, i just d/led the 4th of april build, but i can't burn it on a cd, it says it's too big to fit... how come?09:42
aaroncampbellI am using Samba Version: 3.0.24-2ubuntu1  and here is my smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11338  ...I can see the computer by browsing the campbell workgroup from a windows computer, but when I double click on it, I get "\\Aaron-linux is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this network resource. ... The account is not authorized to log in from this station."09:42
aaroncampbellHowever, I don't have a "hosts allow" option set at all09:43
aaroncampbellWhat I ultimately want to do is share one directory that only I can access (either password protected, or limited to a specific list of IPs), and a directory that anyone can browse.09:43
aaroncampbellAnyone know what might be wrong?09:43
micahcowangarklein_13, I don't want them to have to type (very young). I want them to be able to simply click on their name, as can be configured (I believe) in both OS X and Windows.09:44
DanaGI believe KDE can be set up to not ask for a password.09:44
DanaGSystem Administration -- Login Manager09:45
DanaGin kcontrol.09:45
kanpachiwhy doesn't the 4th of april build fit on a cd when i try to burn it?09:45
kanpachithe md5sum is fine09:45
garklein_13micahcowan: I used it as an opportunity to teach them how to do simple one-finger typing, making the password the same as their username so they had something to copy.... but mine are probably a little older than yours were I'm guessing  =)09:46
micahcowanDanaG, thanks; I'll check that out if I can't figure it out in gnome.09:46
DanaGer, you're using gnome?09:46
DanaGYOu many have to manually open gdmsetup09:46
DanaGwith gksudo09:46
DanaGI don't know if the shortcut in the menu is enabled by default.09:47
micahcowangarklein_13, possibly... at any rate, it's too easy to accidentally type an extra key or leave the capslock for me to want to hassle them with that just yet... the older one could certainly do it; the younger probably could to, but the point is, they shouldn't /have/ to... :)09:47
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garklein_13micahcowan: true09:47
micahcowanDanaG, I've checked there, but can't find it. BTW, gdmsetup is also available via System -> Administrator -> Login Window09:48
phatmonkeywhat's the best way of virtualising windows. vmware? where's the best documentation/tutorial? ubuntu wiki?09:48
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micahcowanI also want to set up a guest account, which I would prefer not to have to give passwords for when guests are here.09:49
DanaGhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11060409:50
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robert_how do I install the SMP kernel for Feisty?09:50
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subliminal727Hi i'm having trouble with my video card.  im having a hard time finding any info on it.  i have an intel 950 GMA  on the mobile intel 945gm chipset, i only have two resolution options -1280x800 and 1024x768,  oh yeah...im using Feisty, any ideas?09:50
micahcowanDanaG, thanks for that. Do you think gdm will still prompt for the (ignored) password in that case?09:51
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frojndhello there09:52
frojndwhy is my sudo apt-get update so slow09:52
frojndwith edgy updating the source list was much more faster..09:52
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micahcowanfrojnd, it may just be that the servers are slower at this moment? That frequently occurs.09:54
subliminal727i think i may jsut need to install drivers..does anyone know how to install drivers for intel integrated video cards? its a toshiba laptop 945gm chipset09:55
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frojndmicahcowan: that's all the time, anytime that I update09:55
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somiansubliminal727: That's the I810 driver, and it ought to installed automatically.09:58
subliminal727so if i can only use two resolutions...what do you think the problem is?09:59
somiansubliminal727: That's a laptop you have, no?09:59
subliminal727yeah09:59
somianThere isn't a problem.10:00
subliminal727oh10:00
subliminal727so im an idiot then...hmmm10:00
subliminal727haha10:00
somianLaptop screens have *1* optimal resolution.10:00
subliminal727i see10:00
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somianYou might find careful reading of your xorg.0.log file interesting, although yes, those logs are a verbose nightmare, subliminal72710:01
subliminal727haha10:01
subliminal727this is kind of a weird setup i have here anyways, i have a dual boot between vista and feisty10:01
somianI have an Intel I810 video chip that I've been learning about for 3 weeks.10:02
somianI've got Xinerama working on an external CRT etc.10:02
subliminal727the res on ubuntu just seemed to look wrong to me so i started poking around and i saw in the hardware info it was saying devicetype: unknown and capabilities: unknown so i thought something was wrong10:02
somianGot to go, bbialw.10:02
subliminal727later10:03
Arkowhat does bbialw means?10:03
somianUh -- that does not sound right. It might not be getting your LCD display right -- look into it further10:03
subliminal727ok10:03
subliminal727i'll keep digging10:03
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somianIf detection via the standard means of the driver "talking to" (querying) the monitor is working right, you should be able to tell from the xorg log10:04
subliminal727ok10:04
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somian\It's unmistakable. It will even tell you what comapny really manufactured your screen and what wee and year it was built.10:04
subliminal727nice10:05
somiansorry, really have to run now10:05
subliminal727ok thanks a lot10:05
ArkoBe Back in A Little While10:05
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micahcowanberyl went all-black after I tested by switching users, had to restart. But it works; doesn't even prompt for the password.10:08
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micahcowanOh, and the box stopped paying attention to my keystrokes, which was the real reason I had to restart :|10:15
enycI can't seem to get ubuntu-feisty compiz to work on this machine...10:17
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enycit starts compiz (in ps) ... but the X-server etc. is somehow jammed...can switch to Alt-F7 ... and get black screeen with cursor (showing rotating 'eggtimer-eqivalent' cursor)10:19
enycits somehow "jammed"10:19
enycafter a long-long delay I get "desktop effects coul not be enabled" error ...10:23
Arkoency: I have just solved this Black Screen of Death after switching from VT to X10:23
enycArko: how...?10:23
Arkoenyc I mean10:23
ArkoI have added some stuff in modprobe.d/options10:23
Arkolemme find it10:24
enychrrrm.. what optiosn?10:24
Arkooptions nvidia NVreg_DeviceFileUID=0 NVreg_DeviceFileGID=33 NVreg_DeviceFileMode=0660 NVreg_SoftEDIDs=0 NVreg_Mobile=110:24
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Arkoworked?10:26
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enycArko: ok... trying...10:27
enycArko: Ive just reconfigured xorg and re-enabled nvidia-glx-config...10:27
enycArko: notably I set 24bit colour and now the behaviour is different... but still not working10:28
Arko:(10:28
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aaroncampbellI am using Samba Version: 3.0.24-2ubuntu1  and here is my smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11338  ...I can see the computer by browsing the campbell workgroup from a windows computer, but when I double click on it, I get "\\Aaron-linux is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this network resource. ... The account is not authorized to log in from this station."10:30
aaroncampbellHowever, I don't have a "hosts allow" option set at all10:30
aaroncampbellWhat I ultimately want to do is share one directory that only I can access (either password protected, or limited to a specific list of IPs), and a directory that anyone can browse.10:30
aaroncampbellAnyone know what might be wrong?10:30
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enycArko: Arko right... have enabled nvidia restricted driver (listed as for legacy cards) through feisty menus...10:38
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Arkoso10:38
enycArko: and have rebooted and logged in...10:38
lm_hey there can anybody give me a helping hand.... ive just formatted an old windows disk via gparted in gnome... how am i going to "mount" so that i can use it like another home dir?10:38
Arkois it working?10:38
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enycArko: and it HAS loaded the "nvidia" module and the topions youu speciffied on  nvida thogh /etc/modprobe.d/options are there.. and system works but  desktop effects do not10:39
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Arkoenable desktop effects again10:39
enycArko: (jams again when starting effects)10:39
peter77how do I completly remove the KDe desktop10:39
enycArko: well itsg ets into this jammed-state10:40
Arko:(10:40
Arkobbialw10:41
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peter77so is there a way to remove the KDE desktop completly as it seems to have screwed up! :-(10:43
enycpeter77: well.. you muight want to pull out the kde libraries?10:43
enycpeter77: then other things that depedn on them will be removed/10:43
peter77k, I'll try that10:44
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linxehpeter77: try creating a new user and logging in as them10:49
linxehpeter77: it might be that your kde configuration got broken, not KDE as a whole10:50
frojndI don't know if tthat's normal but when I am transfering either from USB stick to system or froom system from USB stick system works much more slowerr and mouse don't get smood... any ideas10:51
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N6REJhi folks, I got an update notification from the updater today and after it started installing its throwing an error  with "/etc/udev/rules.d/25-dmsetup.rules"  It wants me to tell it if it should keep my current config or what10:59
N6REJthis started happening with the kernel11:00
N6REJwhat should I tell it?11:00
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soothsayAfter an update yesterday my Feisty install won't boot. It gets stuck at 'Generating LVM groups'11:03
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oxygenwshi all, upgrade from edgy to feisty, my hda hard disk changes to sda, why and how?!11:20
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mweichertdoes anyone know how to specify a WPA-Personal passphrase when using the debian-installer to configure your wireless card?11:20
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DigitalNinjaWhere can I find the "codec wizards"?11:24
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julian1223ah, this is where I'm supposed to ask11:25
julian1223I'm trying to get edgy installed on my 2Ghz MacBook Pro and I keep getting throw to a Failed to start x server thingy, any ideas?11:25
julian1223sorry, Feisty*11:25
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DigitalNinjaAre you using the desktop CD11:26
julian1223yes11:26
[doctor] hi, can anybody say me last kernel version in Ubuntu-7.04?11:26
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julian1223errrr, I'm a huge noob but since it's on my error screen, 2.6.20-12?11:26
DigitalNinjajulian1223 : Did the CD boot or did you get the error while the CD is booting?11:26
mon^rchdon't suppose anyone know progress of getting vmware to work under feisty?11:27
julian1223it booted, thew me to the options screen with start/install etc11:27
oxygenws[doctor] : 2.6.20-1311:27
DigitalNinjajulian1223 : Okay. When it does that hit enter or let it continue. Did you do that?11:27
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[doctor] not 2.6.20-14?11:27
julian1223yes11:27
elvirolohi11:27
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mon^rch!vmware11:28
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers11:28
oxygenws[doctor] : my last is 13 :D11:28
julian1223it showed a pretty ubuntu logo and a shiny indeterminate progress indicator then died after a while11:28
[doctor] hm.... thanks11:28
DigitalNinjaKERNEL 2.6.20-13 here11:28
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elvirolowhen i plug my usb drive in, it seems to be detected (all the right stuff appears in dmesg) but it is not mounted automatically11:28
oxygenwsi was upgraded from edgy to feisty then my hda hard disk changes to sda, why and how?!11:28
julian1223showed a couple of Loading... screens and then I got this11:28
finalbeta!libata11:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:29
julian1223apparently screen(s) were found, but none have a usable config, and no matching vesa modes11:29
DigitalNinjajulian1223 : Did you say this was a mac book ?11:29
julian1223pro, yes11:29
effie_jayxanyone with a bcm4318 wilresscard here ?11:30
effie_jayxs/wilresscard/wireless11:30
julian1223I entered the lpj=8000000 thingy after boot, though that was to prevent an unlikely kernel panic, and I assume if I'd had that, I wouldn't be able to scroll down the error window11:30
DigitalNinjajulian1223 : http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/apple.html look for your laptop11:30
julian1223(I'm on another computer)11:31
soothsayI mentioned my problem a while ago but I had to disconnect and reboot. Am going to restate it: After some upgrades yesterday (including lvm-common) I can no longer boot. The boot process freezes at 'Setting up LVM volume groups'11:31
chewychompi switched from 5700 to a 5200, uninstalled nvidia-glx and restricted kernels, booted with nv, reinstalled glx and restricted kernels, checked xorg.conf rebooted, and it freezes after 3 seconds into x11:31
soothsayhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2402996#post240299611:31
julian1223unfortunately all of that refers to not using boot camp11:31
soothsayAt least one another person is experiencing the problem, according to that thread ^11:31
julian1223but I did boot via boot camp11:32
julian1223I also tried the safe display mode and had the same issue11:33
DigitalNinjajulian1223 : did you check out the link - http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/apple.html11:33
DigitalNinjathey have pictures11:33
julian1223yes, I went to http://modular.math.washington.edu/macbook/11:34
DigitalNinjaDid it have info you could use?11:34
julian1223no11:34
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DigitalNinjaThey dual boot OS X and Ubuntu11:35
Infecto  any body know why opera start to Segmentation fault (core dumped)11:35
Infecto ?11:35
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DigitalNinjahas anyone tried the "codec wizards" for Feisty?11:35
frozenhan1Price, right here?11:35
mon^rchDigitalNinja: work great11:36
julian1223yes, but it isn't any use11:36
DigitalNinjamon^rch : Where did you get them from?11:36
julian1223it's not working which is why I'm here11:36
frozenhan1Is here anyone germanspeaking?11:37
mon^rchjust double click on a file that need a codec. and a little app starts up :)11:37
soothsayJust for anyone's info this seems to be the bug biting me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm-common/+bug/10275611:37
ubotuMalone bug 102756 in lvm-common "vgscan in init.d/lvm doesn't exit" [Undecided,Fix released] 11:37
soothsayClaims to be fixed in an update today11:37
chewychomphelp-i switched from 5700 to a 5200, uninstalled nvidia-glx and restricted kernels, reconfigured xserver, rebooted and it freezes after gdm starts11:37
oxygenwsi was upgraded from edgy to feisty then my hda hard disk changes to sda, why and how?!11:37
DigitalNinjamon^rch : What about mozilla-mplayer ( I think that's right )11:38
mon^rchDigitalNinja: you will prolly have to do some stuff by hand...11:38
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DigitalNinjamon^rch : I see11:38
DigitalNinjaI'll give it a try11:38
WormboyIs anyone German there?11:38
darxwhats the command to run the default bittorrent client?11:39
finalbeta!gr11:39
ubotu#ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes11:39
frojndI have question about how to set my domain to MSHOME, using samba shares.,.11:39
mon^rchDigitalNinja: try vlc....11:39
WormboyCan anyone help me with the formating of the hardrivedisks?11:39
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DigitalNinjamon^rch: I don't think it does w32 codecs or mp3's11:40
finalbeta!de | Wormboy11:40
ubotuWormboy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:40
darxfrohnd: the samba config file11:40
mon^rchDigitalNinja: it did for me...11:40
Wormboythanks11:40
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DigitalNinjamon^rch : I thought they didn't work with those codecs11:40
DigitalNinjaI'll take a look at it11:41
julian1223so no ideas as to how I can fix this besides a page which doesn't actually apply to me?11:41
mon^rchDigitalNinja:  "they"?11:41
DigitalNinjavlc11:41
Infectohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/10285111:41
ubotuMalone bug 102851 in libx11 "Opera failed after update - date 04/04/07" [Undecided,Confirmed] 11:41
mon^rchDigitalNinja: well, I gots no problems :)11:41
Infectohow to downgrade ? to libx1111:41
DigitalNinjamon^rch: I'll give it a try this week11:42
chewychomphelp-i switched from 5700 to a 5200, i uninstalled nvidia-glx and restricted kernels, reconfigured xserver, reinstalled nvidia-glx and restr kernel, and it freezes after gdm starts11:42
mon^rchDigitalNinja: just dropped a folder full of mp3's on vlc and voila11:43
mon^rchDigitalNinja: got some cool skins too!11:43
Infectoany body know how to dobgrade libx1111:44
Infecto?11:44
mon^rchDigitalNinja: and I have NEVER had to install w32codecs11:44
julian1223https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/9541111:44
ubotuMalone bug 95411 in Ubuntu "ubuntu feisty beta, no screens found on macbook pro" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] 11:44
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julian1223does Mike mean that a later build works?11:45
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julian1223if so, where do I go for a later build?11:45
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Dabianfiercesty seems to contain somewhat broken USB-support or something; I have trouble syncing my palm.11:48
aaroncampbellI am using Samba Version: 3.0.24-2ubuntu1  and here is my smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11338  ...I can see the computer by browsing the campbell workgroup from a windows computer, but when I double click on it, I get "\\Aaron-linux is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this network resource. ... The account is not authorized to log in from this station."11:49
aaroncampbellHowever, I don't have a "hosts allow" option set at all11:49
aaroncampbellWhat I ultimately want to do is share one directory that only I can access (either password protected, or limited to a specific list of IPs), and a directory that anyone can browse.11:49
aaroncampbellAnyone know what might be wrong?11:49
jribjulian1223: I can't find the word "later" on the page.  Can you be more specific?11:49
julian1223Same here. Work Herd 3-5 for me.11:50
Dabianaaroncampbell: I browsed your post more than once, but I can't relate it to USB or palm problems.11:50
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jribjulian1223: herd 3-5 came before beta11:50
julian1223ah11:50
mon^rchffffft I guess I am NOT supposed to get vmware with feisty... boo-hoo nothing works11:51
julian1223being a newbie is annoying, any suggestions on useful stuff I could add to that bug posting?11:51
julian1223!vmware ?11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmware ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
julian1223!vmware11:51
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers11:51
aaroncampbellDabian: me?11:51
DabianNah .. the other aaroncampbell .11:51
mon^rchjulian1223: tx, but I been at it about 2 hours now....11:51
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ikoniajulian1223: if you a newbie you may benifit from not using beta softrware11:52
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julian1223fair enough, I saw someone else ask a similar question, was greeted by the same answer, and seemed to be happy with it so kinda assumed it was a known issue on there11:52
elvirolocan anyone help me set up my removable drive ?11:52
rnd_nullhey....question....how do I "blacklist"? a module?11:53
rnd_nullelvirolo, whats wrong with it?11:53
elvirolornd_null: it isn't mounted atomatically, although it is detexted by the kernel11:53
julian1223I'm a linux newbie, not a computer newbie in general is the thing. I also spent 3 hours making boot camp happy enough to install it so I was kinda hoping it'd work (I have Edgy in Parallels).11:53
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ikoniajulian1223: if your new to linux - you'd really benifit from not using beta software11:54
oxygenwsi was upgraded from edgy to feisty then my hda hard disk changes to sda, why and how?!11:54
aaroncampbellDabian: not sure what you mean about the palm or USB thing11:54
ikoniaoxygenws: kernel change in libata11:54
rnd_nullelvirolo, what kind of rem drive is it?11:54
elvirolornd_null: USB11:54
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rnd_nullelvirolo, can you mount it manually?11:55
elvirolornd_null: yes11:55
mon^rchand now since I got vmware unremovable crap scattered all across my system, I think it warrants a reinstall....11:55
elvirolornd_null: but i have permission problems11:55
julian1223never mind then, back to OS for me11:55
rnd_nullhow so?11:55
somianmon^rch: vmware-paley?11:55
julian1223thanks anyway11:55
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somianGAWD .. "player"11:56
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somianThat one?11:56
oxygenwsikonia: before booting system (or in single mode) it is HD, but after booting (RC5) it changes to SD (i think something like this happend now!)11:56
elvirolornd_null: i get "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options"11:56
mon^rchsomian: player, server, hearders tools... the whole shabang I get files dont exist yada yada... yep it's borked11:56
somianmon^rch: don't reinstall your OS, that's just silly.11:56
elvirolornd_null: sorry, "hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000"11:56
ikoniaoxygenws: its a kernel change in the libata area11:57
mon^rchsomian: then you'd best provide me with some help?11:57
somianIf it's mostly player, then just sudo rm /etc/init.d/vmware-player and then touch etc/init.d/vmware-player11:57
oxygenwsikonia: thanks :) but my connection is SATA or IDE??!!11:57
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rnd_nullelvirolo, I have an SD card that does the same thing (mount wise), Ubuntu used pmount before to handle it, but it doesn't seem to use pmount now, I'd have to look for a while to figure out how it's handling the mounting in edgy11:58
ikoniaoxygenws: you should know if your disk is sata or ide11:58
ikoniaoxygenws: from what you've said - its an ide disk11:58
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rnd_nullelvirolo, after you plug the device in what do you get with $dmesg | tail ?11:58
mon^rchtouch: cannot touch `etc/init.d/vmware-player': No such file or directory11:59
oxygenwsikonia: yes, it is IDE, but in system information in linux, it shows SATA!! :D11:59
ikoniaoxygenws: are you listening ??? that is because of a kernel change in the libata subsystem11:59
mon^rchit's fubar11:59
ikoniamon^rch: the files not there12:00
somianTry applying a little PCS to the problem.12:00
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elvirolornd_null: http://pastebin.ca/42459212:01
ikoniaargh ???12:01
oxygenwsikonia: sorry... i listened, but i cannot resolve this conflict in my mind!12:01
somianProgrammer Common sense. it's indispensible when asking over busy tehcnical experts for FREE HELP on irc.12:01
ikoniaoxygenws: there is no conflict12:01
ikoniasomian: the error message was in clear english "no such file" - just a total time waster12:01
somianRiddance, hope the door hit him  HARD on the way out.12:01
ikoniaoxygenws: your hard disk is IDE - whats the conflict ?12:02
somianYeah, ikonia.12:02
rnd_nullelvirolo, what does $mount show?12:02
elvirolornd_null: sorry, what do you mean ?12:03
oxygenwsikonia: why my linux show it as SATA?12:03
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rnd_nullelvirolo, when you type "mount" in a terminal, what output do you get?12:03
somianFor good.12:03
ikoniaoxygenws: it shows it as sata "BECAUSE OF A CHANGE IN THE LIBATA SUBSYSTEM OF THE KERNEL"12:03
ikoniaoxygenws: what part of that are you not understanding ?12:04
somianI warrant there won't be more than 3 genuine clued Ubuntu devs left on here in 3 more days time, if there are even that many now.12:04
elvirolornd_null: http://pastebin.ca/42459712:04
oxygenwsikonia: ok, libata changed and my hard is IDE, it is normal that shows libata shows an IDE hard as SATA?12:05
ikoniaoxygenws: yes, as (wait for it) there is a change in the libata subsystem to show all disks as "scsi" disks12:06
ikoniafrom now on all hard disks are treated as scsi12:06
rnd_nullelvirolo, hmm....not sure...sorry...try google or wiki maybe?12:06
oxygenwsikonia: aha, thanks, it was solved :X12:06
elvirolornd_null: well i tried, but haven't found anything interesting12:07
elvirolornd_null: i'll just have to wait a few updates12:07
elvirolornd_null: thanks for your help anyway :)12:07
elvirolohas anyone had problems with cups ?12:07
rnd_nullelvirolo, try connecting it with knoppix.....to see if its the stick or ubuntu12:07
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elvirolornd_null: ok12:08
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Arwenweird, my install size jumped 50M today and dist-upgrade didn't even ask to install new packages..12:12
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penguin42has anyone tried driving non-printers off their parallel port under feisty? I'm trying to run an FPGA programmer that's working on an old debian on another machine and don't know if the problem is this machine or the feisty kernel; the machine will print to a parport printer12:14
somianArwen: you should never have given the gem of the Eldar to that Aragorn dude. That's what happens when you choose foolishly ;-)12:14
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anon32this help?12:14
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ghostdogI have an issue with nvidia legacy on feisty12:22
ghostdogthe server libs does not match the client libs12:22
ghostdogI ran glxinfo | egrep "glx (vendor|version)"12:22
ghostdogand get glx server vendor as NVIDIA and glx client vendor as SGI12:23
blackesthi got a problem with ssh my password is not recognised however with xnest it is12:23
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penguin42blackest: How do you mean it is recognised with xnest? with -query ?12:24
blackestcould it be anything to do with changing shell from dash to bash earlier today12:24
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blackestwell i can logon remotely with the same user - password12:24

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