| geser | with black magic :) | 12:12 |
|---|---|---|
| Adri2000 | geser: I'm sure you are a magician | 12:15 |
| geser | :) | 12:16 |
| Adri2000 | the packaging guide just says apply manually the ubuntu changes to the new debian package :-/ | 12:18 |
| Adri2000 | so, behind MoM, there is either black magic, or someone who is paid by canonical to apply the ubuntu diffs to the new debian packages | 12:19 |
| ajmitch | or just boring old diffs that you apply | 12:19 |
| mjg59 | MoM is magic | 12:21 |
| mjg59 | Though it's also possible that it's got confused somehow | 12:22 |
| mc44 | Keybuk does it all by hand really | 12:22 |
| tepsipakki | was it just suffering from full hd's? | 12:22 |
| tepsipakki | no disk space in other words | 12:23 |
| sharms | so is the switch to gcc 4.2 in feisty + 1 a done deal, or is that still up in the air? | 12:24 |
| === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Exit,] | ||
| tkamppeter | Any bbuild admin here? | 12:37 |
| mjg59 | tkamppeter: It's not morning in Australia yet, and it's night in Europe | 12:37 |
| mjg59 | Just wait. Nothing's going to miss the freeze because of a buildd issue. | 12:38 |
| === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === haggai [n=halls@credativ.bcnadsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Tonio_ | hum, the buildfarm looks like broken, due to dmsetup | 12:53 |
| Tonio_ | fails to install to build the chroot... is that known problem ? | 12:54 |
| Tonio_ | exact error message is /var/lib/dpkg/info/dmsetup.postinst: line 4: update-initramfs: command not found | 12:54 |
| mooey | there was talk of such in here earlier | 12:55 |
| Tonio_ | mooey: okay so that's probably known.... | 12:56 |
| Tonio_ | I just keep my source packages in case reupload is required once fixed (shouldn't but anyway..) | 12:57 |
| === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| cjwatson | tkamppeter: easy, dude. Everything will be retried. | 01:00 |
| === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tkamppeter [n=till@bl8-121-254.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.26.139.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jerb [n=jerb@dsl081-161-160.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sn0 [n=sno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.26.139.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-128-156.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zen [n=null@unaffiliated/zen] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === BenSee [n=bcollins@collinsap1.phunnypharm.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jerb [n=jerb@dsl081-161-160.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| zen | Can I ask packaging questions here, or should I take that elsewhere? | 02:04 |
| Burgwork | zen: -motu | 02:05 |
| zen | thanks | 02:05 |
| === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-13.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.26.139.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.26.139.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.26.139.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.26.139.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jml [n=jml@dsl-210-15-197-192-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero__ [n=jga@p85.212.26.139.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === troy_s [n=aphorism@d206-116-6-170.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Maor [n=chatzill@85.64.49.109.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jack_wyt [n=jack@59.40.37.169] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ghaspias [n=ghaspias@83.144.132.133] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | drat. mvo isnt here. | 03:33 |
| jsgotangco | too early! | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | likely, yes | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | the dist-upgrader disables unofficial repos - including unofficial mirrors. | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | if the mirror is containing the exact same content as the archive.u.c, then surely we could keep them in as well? | 03:35 |
| === Hobbsee wonders how broken au.a.u.c is today... | ||
| === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | oh bloody hell. 30b/s is not an acceptable download speed. | 03:48 |
| mjg59 | Hobbsee: Well, if you will live in the bandwidth wastelands of .au... | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: i get faster than that off the archive.ubuntu.com | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | and way faster off that unofficial mirror | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | deb http://mirror.pacific.net.au/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiver | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | se | 03:51 |
| Hobbsee | mjg59: even that is extremely poor in australian standards | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | unless you're on dialup | 03:52 |
| Fujitsu | I regularly saturate my bandwidth from Pacific and Optus, Hobbsee... | 03:53 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: huh? | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: ahhh. i knew it would be broken. the au.archive... *is* the optus mirror | 03:55 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: I thought you would have known that... | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | i didnt - i'd not researched it, beyond knowing it was broken, and finding another mirror | 03:57 |
| === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | ahhh, there we go. downloading at 550 kb/s | 04:06 |
| Hobbsee | much better. | 04:06 |
| === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === j1mc [n=jim@adsl-75-22-225-51.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mat [n=mat@igoan/mat] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-94-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.212.225.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === styx|- [n=kvirc@p57a4b549.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === styx|3 [n=kvirc@p57a4b549.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | fabbione: please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots/+bug/102715 when you get back | 05:37 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102715 in ubuntu-bots "ubuntulog is not in #ubuntu+1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 05:37 |
| === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-42.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | morning | 05:55 |
| fabbione | Hobbsee: ok thanks | 05:56 |
| Hobbsee | fabbione: :) | 05:57 |
| === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-devel.log | ||
| === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Topic for #ubuntu-devel: Development of Ubuntu (not support, even with feisty; not application development on Ubuntu) | #ubuntu for support and general discussion | #ubuntu-motu for getting involved in development | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources | See #ubuntu-bugs for http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs | Beta released | ||
| === Topic (#ubuntu-devel): set by Mithrandir at Sat Mar 24 15:12:38 2007 | ||
| === dogmatism [n=josh@24.115.218.54.res-cmts.sth.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| jdong | nixternal: blurg, ktorrent 2.1.3 was released with a crashfix to the 2.1 series :( | 06:06 |
| nixternal | I seen that | 06:06 |
| nixternal | have you created a package yet? | 06:07 |
| nixternal | you can flip it up to revu and see about getting it in, but it isn't looking so good truthfully | 06:07 |
| === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | Hobbsee: all done | 06:16 |
| fabbione | Hobbsee: logs should appear within the next hour | 06:16 |
| Hobbsee | fabbione: great, thanks! | 06:17 |
| fabbione | np | 06:17 |
| jdong | nixternal: nah I don't think I'll try until feisty+1 | 06:17 |
| jdong | then -> backports | 06:17 |
| jdong | it seems like they find new tiny bugs every other day that looks worthwhile for cherrypicking. | 06:18 |
| === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.140.96] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === nags [n=nags@125.16.129.16] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === statik [n=emurphy@unaffiliated/statik] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7799B.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 07:24 |
| Mithrandir | hi Daniel | 07:25 |
| dholbach | hey Tollef | 07:25 |
| poningru | daniel? | 07:26 |
| poningru | wow never knew people here had real names | 07:26 |
| poningru | ;) | 07:26 |
| Mithrandir | heh | 07:26 |
| poningru | Mithrandir: quick question | 07:27 |
| poningru | re: RC | 07:27 |
| poningru | is there going to be a 'release' | 07:27 |
| === giskard_ [n=giskard@81-208-74-186.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | yes, it's going to be mailed to either u-d-a or u-a and we're going to freeze and all | 07:27 |
| poningru | oh do you want us to do a walkthrough of features kinda thing? | 07:28 |
| poningru | I mean it would be kinda pointless | 07:28 |
| poningru | but then again a release candidate walkthrough would get lots more testing | 07:28 |
| dholbach | dmsetup seems to need to depend on initramfs-tools | 07:28 |
| dholbach | or something | 07:28 |
| Mithrandir | poningru: do you think marketing-wise or testing-wise? | 07:29 |
| Hobbsee | hey dholbach, Mithrandir | 07:29 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee! | 07:29 |
| === Hobbsee hugs Mithrandir :) | ||
| dholbach | hey Hobbsee | 07:29 |
| === Mithrandir bounces. | ||
| === giskard__ [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | hey dholbach! | 07:30 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: why are you bouncing today? | 07:30 |
| === Hobbsee puts some lead in Mithrandir's shoes | ||
| Mithrandir | I'm barefooted so far. :-P | 07:30 |
| Mithrandir | we're getting close to release! I can soon sleep again! | 07:30 |
| dholbach | Mithrandir: do you think that dmsetup should depend on initramfs-tools? | 07:31 |
| poningru | Mithrandir: well both really... with regards to marketing it would be kinda lame to put out a 'release notes walkthrough style' for a release candidate since it would be essentially a copy of the final release notes, but on the other hand from the testing pov it would be good since puting out a release notes would boost testing especially for a release candidate | 07:31 |
| dholbach | Mithrandir: the build failures of regexxer and bughelper seem to suggest that | 07:31 |
| poningru | Mithrandir: thoughts? | 07:32 |
| Mithrandir | dholbach: that's fixed, but the buildds are slightly busted ATM; Adam's working on fixing it. | 07:33 |
| === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | poningru: just use the same one for RC and release? The feature set should be very much the same. | 07:33 |
| poningru | right | 07:33 |
| poningru | thats what I am saying | 07:33 |
| dholbach | Mithrandir: ok - thanks a lot | 07:33 |
| poningru | it would be pretty lame to put out two release notes | 07:34 |
| Mithrandir | I'd be fine with that, at least. | 07:34 |
| poningru | that are exactly the same | 07:34 |
| Mithrandir | yeah, wouldn't make much sense. | 07:34 |
| poningru | right | 07:34 |
| Mithrandir | just think of it as having a release candidate for the notes too? | 07:34 |
| poningru | uh... clarify? | 07:34 |
| === PuMpErNiCkLe is now known as Pumpernickel | ||
| poningru | didnt make sense to me | 07:34 |
| === Hobbsee stomps on Mithrandir's toes then | ||
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: yay! then there's feisty+1 :P | 07:35 |
| poningru | Hobbsee: hehe | 07:35 |
| Mithrandir | Hobbsee: I'm already sitting with my feet underneath me, so that would entail jumping into my lap. :-P | 07:35 |
| poningru | I wanna know what the name of that will be | 07:35 |
| Hobbsee | Mithrandir: hrm.... | 07:35 |
| poningru | !! | 07:35 |
| === poningru walks backwards slowly | ||
| === Hobbsee pours icecubes down your back, instead | ||
| Mithrandir | poningru: release notes can have bugs too, so just do "we think those are final" and leave the week for any bugfixing. | 07:36 |
| ajmitch | Hobbsee: you're so kind.. | 07:40 |
| === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: indeed | 07:41 |
| poningru | !lart @28 ajmitch | 07:43 |
| poningru | BUUUH???? | 07:43 |
| ajmitch | poningru: sorry? | 07:43 |
| === Hobbsee attacks poningru with the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| === Igorot [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| poningru | eek | 07:44 |
| poningru | ajmitch: testing out ubotu but guess they changed the commands on me | 07:44 |
| Fujitsu | poningru: It's @lart, and doesn't work in most channels. | 07:47 |
| dholbach | ajmitch: done | 07:47 |
| poningru | Fujitsu: ah that I did not know | 07:48 |
| === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ajmitch | dholbach: yay, thanks :) | 07:48 |
| === ajmitch doesn't want to lose people | ||
| === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === janimo [n=jani@89.137.122.178] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| janimo | can someone take a look at what's wrong with https://launchpad.net/+builds/+build/316111 and force a rebuild if possible? thanks | 08:09 |
| Mithrandir | janimo: the chroots are broken atm, we're working on it. | 08:10 |
| janimo | Mithrandir: ah, ok | 08:14 |
| === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| tepsipakki | ds: I found the upstream commit for the radeon UYVY-bug | 08:24 |
| === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti | Good morning | 08:32 |
| Hobbsee | heya pitti | 08:32 |
| === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === carlos [n=carlos@163.pool85-48-166.static.orange.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| viviersf | silly q, is any1 having problems using debootstrap :/ | 08:47 |
| Mithrandir | viviersf: yes, stuff's broken, we're working on it | 08:50 |
| viviersf | okies :) thx just wondering | 08:50 |
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@32-202.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| janimo | pitti: hi, is the box you got the gnome-mount crash an x86? | 09:03 |
| pitti | janimo: no, amd64 | 09:03 |
| pitti | janimo: this was a really weird one | 09:03 |
| pitti | janimo: getenv("SUDO_UID") returns an invalid pointer | 09:04 |
| pitti | janimo: I have no idea why, just that it doesn't happen with the previous version | 09:04 |
| pitti | janimo: I didn't manage to debug it so far (I'm pretty ill, sorry) | 09:04 |
| janimo | pitti: np, I hope you get well soon | 09:05 |
| janimo | weird bug indeed. | 09:05 |
| pitti | janimo: do you get it, too? | 09:06 |
| janimo | pitti: no, I am on x86 | 09:06 |
| janimo | but I'll look at the code and see what it could be. gnome-_program_init is changed to gtk_init that may affect it | 09:07 |
| pitti | janimo: ah, maybe that mangles the environment somehow | 09:07 |
| === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-21-209.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Nuscly [n=nuscly@29-231.206-83.static-ip.oleane.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEEC15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| janimo | pitti: although the crash happens at the start of main() way before gtk_init is called. | 09:11 |
| janimo | so it may be related to the shared libs linked in some way, as the gnome ones are missing but I cannot see how | 09:12 |
| === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === highvoltage [n=jonathan@ubuntu/member/highvoltage] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | iwj: ping? | 09:34 |
| === mvo [n=egon@p54a67d7b.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Lure | pitti: reminder for digikamimageplugins MIR - I suspect we can only do it before main freeze | 09:53 |
| === hunger [n=tobias@163.5.100.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.212.225.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mdke | dholbach: I've added translations to ubuntu-docs, can you take a look today and maybe upload? I've tested, it seems to ork | 10:00 |
| mdke | ever better, it works too | 10:00 |
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mdke | dholbach: best to reply by email, I'll be off irc during the day. Thanks in advance! | 10:02 |
| === tkjacobsen [n=tkjacobs@105.18.235.85.dk-boa.res.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495777c.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii | dholbach: I commited changes to GDM (HumanList theme) and Human Icons | 10:09 |
| === Keybuk [n=scott@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jinty [n=jinty@121.Red-83-50-217.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | hey Keybuk | 10:21 |
| fabbione | Keybuk: i think i found a bug in the last devicemapper stuff | 10:21 |
| fabbione | root@diapolon:/etc/udev/rules.d# cat /proc/partitions |grep 64 | 10:22 |
| fabbione | 8 64 20039544 sde | 10:22 |
| fabbione | root@diapolon:/etc/init.d# /sbin/devmap_name 8 64 | 10:22 |
| fabbione | Command failed | 10:22 |
| fabbione | so basically i have no dm-* anylonger | 10:22 |
| Keybuk | fabbione: no module? | 10:22 |
| Keybuk | ahh | 10:22 |
| Keybuk | no, you've mis-interpreted the arguments to devmap_name | 10:23 |
| Keybuk | the arguments are the major and minor number of the devmapper device | 10:23 |
| === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| fabbione | Keybuk: the module is there | 10:23 |
| Keybuk | not the underlying device | 10:23 |
| Keybuk | cat /sys/block/dm-*/dev | 10:23 |
| Keybuk | and try devmap_name with those major/minor as arguments | 10:23 |
| fabbione | there are no dm-* :) | 10:23 |
| Keybuk | are there any dm-* in /sys/block ? | 10:23 |
| fabbione | nope | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | sure | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | ? | 10:24 |
| fabbione | yes | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | can you paste me ls -l /sys/block | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | (so you don't have a /dev/mapper either?) | 10:24 |
| fabbione | root@diapolon:/dev/mapper# ls | 10:24 |
| fabbione | control | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | ok | 10:24 |
| Keybuk | paste me your /etc/udev/rules.d/25-dmsetup.rules | 10:25 |
| fabbione | this is from this morning upgrade | 10:25 |
| === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Keybuk | siretart: pin | 10:28 |
| Keybuk | +g | 10:28 |
| siretart | Keybuk: yes? | 10:28 |
| Keybuk | siretart: did everything we did last night work for you? | 10:28 |
| Keybuk | has anything broken for you over night? | 10:28 |
| siretart | Keybuk: after installing your test udev package and adding that option to the evms rule, I'm happy again with my system :) | 10:29 |
| siretart | Keybuk: even creating snapshots works reliably now. I can finally use sbuild again :) | 10:29 |
| Keybuk | Nafallo: did you get a chance to test? | 10:29 |
| Keybuk | siretart: snapshots was the first thing I fixed | 10:29 |
| siretart | Keybuk: and the last thing I tried. it managed to break my lvm metadata more than one time, and I had to boot a live cd to restore it :/ | 10:30 |
| Keybuk | what's that? | 10:30 |
| Nafallo | Keybuk: nope. my last client suffers from a broken PSU it seems, so I don't dare to reboot the headless server ATM :-/ | 10:30 |
| siretart | what's what? lvm metadata? | 10:30 |
| Fujitsu | siretart: snapshots work? Yay | 10:31 |
| Fujitsu | *! | 10:31 |
| Keybuk | siretart: what's the last thing you tried that broke? | 10:31 |
| siretart | Keybuk: the last problem I had was that broken evms rule, I think | 10:31 |
| Keybuk | ah, your break your lvm metadata was *before* the fixes were applies? | 10:32 |
| siretart | yes, that was weeks ago | 10:32 |
| Keybuk | I interpreted that as you've done something since the "fix" that broke it? | 10:32 |
| Fujitsu | s/last thing/last time/, I presume. | 10:32 |
| siretart | nono | 10:32 |
| siretart | I just wanted to say that I didn't try creating lvm snapshots in the last weeks | 10:32 |
| siretart | because I made bad experiences with it | 10:32 |
| siretart | I tried it yesterday, and I'm pleased to say that it works reliably for me now | 10:33 |
| Keybuk | :) | 10:33 |
| Keybuk | yay | 10:33 |
| Keybuk | and I actually think I understand lvm now | 10:33 |
| siretart | :) | 10:33 |
| tkamppeter | Keybuk, iwj, is the build server back working? | 10:34 |
| Keybuk | tkamppeter: there's nothing wrong with the build server that I'm aware | 10:34 |
| siretart | next step (for goofy, not feisty): root on dmcrypt on lvm on md. anything else what we could add to that? ;) | 10:34 |
| \sh | siretart: you are crazy ;-) | 10:35 |
| tkamppeter | Keybuk, this dmsetup problem when it sets up the chroots about which I talked yesterday | 10:35 |
| Keybuk | tkamppeter: that's just a package problem | 10:35 |
| Keybuk | siretart: what's the difference between dmcrypt and cryptsetup? | 10:35 |
| siretart | \sh: actually, I don't even consider it too crazy | 10:35 |
| tkamppeter | Keybuk, is this fixed? | 10:35 |
| infinity | tkamppeter: Yes. | 10:35 |
| infinity | tkamppeter: Fixed a short while ago. | 10:36 |
| siretart | Keybuk: cryptsetup is the userspace tool which drives the dm-crypt module in the kernel via libdevmapper | 10:36 |
| Keybuk | siretart: ah | 10:36 |
| Keybuk | siretart: encrypted filesystems is certainly on the +1 list | 10:36 |
| siretart | :) | 10:37 |
| Keybuk | and in theory, the changes that finally seem to be starting to work allow infinite filesystem stackage | 10:37 |
| Keybuk | so you could have LVM-on-MD-on-Crypt-on-LVM-on-MD-on-SAN | 10:37 |
| === fabbione will start pushing * on * and include multipath | ||
| dholbach_ | mdke, kwwii: will do | 10:38 |
| siretart | Keybuk: could you perhaps summarise what you did to fix the race? what did actually race here? | 10:38 |
| tkamppeter | Mithrandir, can you then put a "give-back" (Pitti told me that this is needed to be done by you) to the packages hplip_1.7.3-0ubuntu1 and cupsys-1.2.8-0ubuntu2 on the build server, so that the do the builds which failed because of yesterday's dmsetup problem? | 10:38 |
| tkamppeter | infinity, thanks for the fix. | 10:39 |
| Mithrandir | tkamppeter: already done. | 10:39 |
| tkamppeter | Mithrandir, thanks. | 10:39 |
| === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mc44 [n=mc44@ip-81-170-103-124.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | kwwii, mdke: will do | 10:46 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: yay, live system has the hwdb notification now; I guess because the postinst is set -x now :-P | 10:47 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: (I guess the images just lagged behind after livefs.sh was fixed) | 10:47 |
| === snowblink [n=snowblin@pacer.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Keybuk | siretart: so, err | 10:49 |
| Keybuk | right | 10:49 |
| Keybuk | one asks libdevmapper1.02 to setup a device in the kernel for you | 10:49 |
| Keybuk | that does the ioctl() and then called mknod() | 10:49 |
| Keybuk | the ioctl() creates the block device, triggering a uevent which udev acts on | 10:49 |
| Keybuk | if udev and devmapper try and make the same block device, they can hurt each other | 10:49 |
| Keybuk | either you make udev not touch it (the edgy solution) | 10:50 |
| Keybuk | or you make devmapper not touch it | 10:50 |
| Keybuk | we've made devmapper not make the device, instead if udev is running it spins until the device shows up | 10:50 |
| === Enola_Gay [n=enola@dslb-084-056-218-222.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Enola_Gay | hi all | 10:50 |
| Keybuk | udev then has rules to obtain the intended name from the kernel, and make the device | 10:50 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: the archive hasn't really been well for a couple of days, but it should recover today. | 10:50 |
| Keybuk | (yesterday evening's fix was to make udev *not* replace random characters like '|' in the names for those devices) | 10:50 |
| === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Keybuk | this gives us race-free devmapper device creation, and useful events to tell us they're ready | 10:51 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: so, I'm happy now for this hwdb spec of doom :) | 10:51 |
| Keybuk | on those events, and any other block device which looks like it's an md or lvm member, we can run mdadm and lvm | 10:51 |
| Keybuk | and since those result in new block devices, those events can also cause mdadm, lvm, etc. to be run | 10:52 |
| === Razor44 [n=kathy@ipa185.0.91.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Keybuk | the evms fix was that it only responded to new block devices, and not changes to existing block devices | 10:52 |
| Keybuk | (err, I think that's it) | 10:53 |
| lifeless | will upstream recognize their code now ? | 10:53 |
| Keybuk | we hardly changed anything | 10:53 |
| Keybuk | just the devmapper tweak to make it spin if udev is running | 10:53 |
| lifeless | :) | 10:53 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: so, err problem again | 10:55 |
| Keybuk | dmsetup needs a particular version of udev | 10:55 |
| Keybuk | how do I force an update to that version of udev, without making the whole lot Required again? :p | 10:55 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: breaks? | 10:56 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: as in, add a Breaks to dmsetup | 10:57 |
| Keybuk | so Breaks: udev (<<) is fine? | 10:58 |
| Keybuk | that forces an upgrade of udev? | 10:58 |
| Mithrandir | AIUI, yes. | 10:58 |
| Mithrandir | it's like conflicts, but less hard on the dependency graph. | 10:58 |
| dholbach | kwwii: you deleted HumanList/Human.xml but did not add a new *.xml file | 10:59 |
| dholbach | kwwii: can you check bzr unknowns for files you might have forgot to bzr add? | 10:59 |
| Keybuk | Mithrandir: should udev declare the breaks, or should dmsetup declare it? | 11:01 |
| Mithrandir | Keybuk: either can, but I think I would put it in dmsetup, since it's dmsetup that needs a newer udev, not udev that needs a newer dmsetup. | 11:02 |
| Keybuk | right | 11:03 |
| Mithrandir | Breaks is just a weaker Conflicts. | 11:04 |
| === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-17-105.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === snowblink [n=snowblin@pacer.dreamhost.com] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] | ||
| === chand| [n=rsamson@linagoraberri.pck.nerim.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pitti_live [n=ubuntu@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti_live | mvo: got a minute? | 11:15 |
| pitti_live | mvo: I'm on current amd64 live; apt-cache policy nvidia-glx only shows the archive.u.c. source, it's not taken from the CD repo | 11:16 |
| === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti_live | mvo: however, the cdrom is added in sources.list | 11:16 |
| mvo | pitti_live: can you do a ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists please? | 11:17 |
| pitti_live | mvo: oh, heh, wait; nvidia-glx isn't in ship-live, apparently | 11:17 |
| mvo | pitti_live: ok | 11:17 |
| pitti_live | only some avm-fritz-firmware stuff | 11:17 |
| mvo | pitti_live: the next thing would be apt-cache gencache | 11:17 |
| mvo | but if its not there thats a easy one :) | 11:17 |
| kwwii | dholbach: cool, thanks for the info...I'll fix that | 11:17 |
| pitti_live | mvo: right, apt-get install avm-fritz-firmware works | 11:17 |
| pitti_live | mvo: well, downloading from archive is good enough, I think; the driver is huge, and CDs are full anyway | 11:18 |
| mvo | ok | 11:18 |
| dholbach | kwwii: alrighty | 11:18 |
| mvo | fair enough | 11:18 |
| pitti_live | mvo: so, sorry for the noise | 11:18 |
| === pitti_live hugs mvo | ||
| kwwii | dholbach: yeah, I missed that in my bzr add command...comitting now | 11:19 |
| mvo | pitti_live: no worries | 11:19 |
| === freeflying_ [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | kwwii: super thanks | 11:19 |
| kwwii | dholbach: btw...thanks so much for all the help - without you there would be no artwork - I really appreciate everything (and your patience) | 11:19 |
| === dholbach hugs kwwii | ||
| dholbach | kwwii: np - I hope we'll manage to make it all easier at some stage and you'll have more eager helpers in the ubuntu-art team | 11:21 |
| kwwii | dholbach: actually, the ubuntu-art team is starting to look good again - feisty+1 should be a big improvement in that area | 11:22 |
| kwwii | I even got troy to talk positively :p | 11:22 |
| === pitti_live [n=ubuntu@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti_live | wow, enabling desktop-effects on the live CD now works surprisingly well; /me hugs seb128, mvo, and Mithrandir for the fixes for this | 11:23 |
| === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | pitti_live: rock on, and that's nothing compared to the version uploaded yesterday which probably didn't build yet ;) | 11:26 |
| === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti_live | seb128: I saw that huge list of patches, yes | 11:27 |
| seb128 | what's going on with the buildds BTW? | 11:28 |
| cjwatson | dmsetup needs a manual bootstrap - infinity said he was on it shortly some hours ago | 11:30 |
| Mithrandir | cjwatson: that's fixed now. | 11:30 |
| cjwatson | ah good | 11:30 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: the chroots got busted, Adam fixed it and did a mass-give-back | 11:30 |
| Mithrandir | I think he just gave back everything that failed, not just everything that failed in the last 24 hours | 11:30 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: ok, thank you | 11:33 |
| dholbach | kwwii: uploaded | 11:35 |
| kwwii | dholbach: hug, hug ;-) | 11:35 |
| dholbach | np :) | 11:35 |
| === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii | cjwatson: can you tell me in which package I can find the pic used in the very first screen of the installer? (grub, I assume) | 11:43 |
| seb128 | kwwii: are you going to change ubuntulooks or should I do it? | 11:43 |
| === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | kwwii: the panel 24x24 icon thing | 11:43 |
| kwwii | seb128: might be better if you did it | 11:44 |
| kwwii | seb128: if you don't mind, that is :-) | 11:44 |
| seb128 | ok | 11:44 |
| === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491e144.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | not at all, it's quick enough | 11:44 |
| seb128 | gicmo: Alter! | 11:45 |
| === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| gicmo | ALTER! | 11:45 |
| === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === shenki_ [n=shenki@ppp19-203.lns10.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| cjwatson | kwwii: you mean the CD bootloader? it's not in a package, it's in debian-cd bzr (http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/bzr/debian-cd/ubuntu) - procedure for improving it is to e-mail a new image to me | 11:52 |
| cjwatson | kwwii: or actually, better, file a bug on the ubuntu-cdimage product | 11:52 |
| iwj | fabbione: What can I do for you ? | 11:53 |
| kwwii | cjwatson: cool, thanks...I'll check that out to understand the format and then file a bug asap | 11:53 |
| fabbione | iwj: oh sorry.. i forgot to unping.. Keybuk did look into it | 11:53 |
| iwj | fabbione: Oh, good. lvm stuff again no doubt. | 11:54 |
| fabbione | iwj: it's a problem with device mapper of some kind but it might be related to the buildd being a bit laggish | 11:54 |
| fabbione | iwj: no lvm this time :) | 11:54 |
| fabbione | iwj: basically i have no dm-* anywhere.. and udev events are a bit strange | 11:54 |
| iwj | Mmm, so I see in scrollback. Well, I'll let Keybuk carry on with it unless he gets bored ... | 11:57 |
| fabbione | iwj: ehhe thanks anyway | 11:57 |
| === ssam [n=ssam@87.127.117.246] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mrsno [n=sno@unaffiliated/sn0] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-c6b814eeb079d99e] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| iwj | I have a bunch of mails from the buildds about `chroot problem'. | 12:03 |
| Mithrandir | iwj: has been tended to. | 12:03 |
| iwj | Excellent. | 12:04 |
| kwwii | cjwatson: one question...do you know if it is still necessary to only use 16 colors or can I do a full 256? | 12:06 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: could we get gtk2-engines-pixbuf added to the desktop seed or it's late for feisty? "Installed-Size: 240" and some themes need it (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/102797) | 12:06 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102797 in gtk+2.0 "gtk2-engines-pixbuf needs to be installed for pixmap themes (and it isn't by default)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 12:06 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: sure | 12:07 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: it's a binary package from gtk+2.0 | 12:07 |
| Mithrandir | go ahead and get it done | 12:07 |
| seb128 | ok, thank you | 12:07 |
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | kwwii: what was that 24x24/categories/applications-graphics.png in h-i-t about? | 12:30 |
| dholbach | kwwii: was that the one you wanted to drop? | 12:30 |
| dholbach | kwwii: ah no, apparently not | 12:32 |
| === dholbach does another upload | ||
| === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| heno | Mithrandir: FYI, I've milestoned bug 91868 | 12:35 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 91868 in casper "Magnifier does not start from accessibility menu due to incorrectly referenced file." [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91868 | 12:35 |
| heno | a fairly trivial fix | 12:36 |
| === kwwii_ [n=kwwii@p5495664d.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === yacoob [i=yacoob@hell.pl] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| cjwatson | kwwii: there are two formats, *.rle which is a super-weird format and is limited to 639x320x16 but only used as a fallback, and *.pcx which is 640x480x256 | 12:41 |
| cjwatson | kwwii: the latter's what most people actually see - if you give me an image in 16 colours, I can deal with fitting it into the former format | 12:42 |
| === Saied [n=Saied@80.191.2.35] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| cjwatson | kwwii: the latter has some restrictions with the menu positioning, so try to use roughly the same areas of the screen or I'll have to make irritating code changes | 12:42 |
| Saied | all, i remastered Kubuntu feisty and got this error in boot stage : /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off . how can i solve it? | 12:42 |
| Saied | is it a bug? | 12:44 |
| === gicmo_ [n=gicmo@p5491CCE9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Treenaks | maybe you remastered it the wrong way? | 12:46 |
| kwwii_ | cjwatson: excellent, thanks :-) | 12:46 |
| === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Saied | Treenaks: see : http://i7.tinypic.com/3y63ns3.png | 12:48 |
| Saied | Treenaks: i followed instructions in this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06 | 12:49 |
| Saied | Treenaks: everything was OK previous week but this week (with a update) this problem happened | 12:51 |
| Saied | any idea about this problem? | 12:56 |
| === PhinnFort [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| PhinnFort | does the grub that comes with feisty have the gfxboot patches applied? | 01:02 |
| Chipzz | PhinnFort: I think it doesn't | 01:05 |
| === Tonio_ [n=tonio@230.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| PhinnFort | :( | 01:06 |
| PhinnFort | i thought feisty was all about the bling-bling | 01:06 |
| PhinnFort | :P | 01:06 |
| === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === TeTeT [n=spindler@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stephanbuys [n=stephanb@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cassidy [n=cassidy@146.168-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === gicmo_ is now known as gicmo | ||
| === tuna [n=ron@bzq-82-81-98-90.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.11.33.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host216-173-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Spads [n=spacehob@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | can somebody of the devmapper maintainers fix libdevmapper1.02.postinst to check if /dev/mapper does not really exist before mkdir'ing it? | 01:39 |
| === giangy [i=giangy@voyager.techtemple.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | Keybuk, iwj: ^ | 01:41 |
| === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| alex-weej | please can someone read this and suggest where i go next? | 01:47 |
| alex-weej | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StandardisedHardwareSupport | 01:47 |
| === giangy [i=giangy@voyager.techtemple.org] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === sky_walkie [i=czzhrd02@xdsl-563.lodz.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Adri2000 | was the dmsetup/devmapper issue on the buildds supposed to be fixed? | 01:52 |
| === PF-Away [n=martin@cC3ED5AC1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Adri2000 | http://librarian.launchpad.net/7140668/buildlog_ubuntu-feisty-i386.filezilla_3.0.0%7Ebeta7-0ubuntu1_CHROOTWAIT.txt.gz | 01:52 |
| Adri2000 | cool, dmsetup is fixed, but now it's libdevmapper1.02 which is broken | 01:53 |
| kwwii | dholbach: sorry, missed your earlier comment | 01:54 |
| kwwii | dholbach: I added that pic because it looks a bit nicer than the brush alone for the applications-graphics pic | 01:54 |
| === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| kwwii | dholbach: we dropped the old version because it was ugly and blurry, but this one fixes that | 01:55 |
| === Adri2000 pings Mithrandir and Keybuk about the buildds being broken again | ||
| Keybuk | dholbach: done | 01:59 |
| === adam0509 [n=benoit@stc92-1-82-227-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD684.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| iwj | seb128: How well do you understand system-tools-backend and the way it creates /etc/ppp/peers/ppp0 ? I'm trying to add `noauth' by default but the tangled mess of crazy stuff in system-tools-backends-2.2.0/Network/Ifaces.pm has me baffled. | 02:08 |
| === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | iwj: I don't know system-tools-backend very well, but upstream is on the GNOME IRC usually, let me ask him | 02:09 |
| iwj | Thanks. | 02:09 |
| seb128 | np | 02:09 |
| iwj | I could go there and chat directly. It's a fairly obvious thing for us to change ... | 02:10 |
| === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| iwj | seb128: irc.gnome.orc I take it - which channel ? | 02:15 |
| seb128 | iwj: #gst | 02:15 |
| kwwii | cjwatson: ok, I've created a bug (#102840) and attached the pics | 02:15 |
| kwwii | cjwatson: I think I'll leave the rle pics as they are 16 colors - anything I make would look different than the pics used in the rest of the distri anyway | 02:16 |
| kwwii | ogra, Riddell : you guys might want to check the pics in that bug as well ( although they look the same as the usplash pics) | 02:18 |
| ogra | thats fine with me | 02:18 |
| ogra | if they look the same after packaging them indeed ;) | 02:18 |
| === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| sladen | in Soviet Russia, they use WPA. | 02:20 |
| === lotusleaf [n=mette@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| StevenK | seb128: Do you mind if I upload a -0ubuntu2 of zenity, closing 2 of the 3 open bugs? | 02:20 |
| === hggdh [n=hggdh@pool-71-170-94-19.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | StevenK: not at all, how complicated are the changes? | 02:21 |
| StevenK | seb128: A 17 line patch into debian/patches, and adding 4 lines to debian/rules | 02:23 |
| seb128 | StevenK: looks good | 02:23 |
| StevenK | seb128: Happy to throw the debdiff onto the Intarweb if you want to see | 02:23 |
| seb128 | StevenK: what bug does it fix? | 02:23 |
| seb128 | could you attach it to launchpad if it fixes an Ubuntu bug? | 02:24 |
| StevenK | seb128: #50349 and #83549 | 02:24 |
| seb128 | bug #50349 | 02:24 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 50349 in zenity "no man page for gdialog" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50349 | 02:24 |
| seb128 | bug #83549 | 02:24 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 83549 in zenity "zenity zenity --text-info --editable crashes on 56K text file on stdin" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83549 | 02:24 |
| kwwii | ogra: I certainly hope they look the same after packaging ;-) | 02:25 |
| ogra | :) | 02:25 |
| StevenK | seb128: I'll attach the debdiff to 83549 | 02:25 |
| seb128 | StevenK: ok, thank you | 02:25 |
| === lotusleaf [n=mette@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-devel ["trombone"] | ||
| StevenK | seb128: Done. | 02:26 |
| alex-weej | does anyone actually read ubuntu-devel-discuss, btw? | 02:27 |
| === kaptengu [n=kaptengu@c213-100-60-183.swipnet.se] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | alex-weej: I do | 02:29 |
| seb128 | alex-weej: why? | 02:29 |
| alex-weej | that's good enough for me | 02:29 |
| alex-weej | cause its volume is very low | 02:29 |
| alex-weej | it seems all the same kind of banter goes on in devel-discuss, except that's closed to non-ubuntu-developer minions like me :P | 02:30 |
| cjwatson | kwwii: thanks, can't really look today but will try to remember to look tomorrow | 02:30 |
| cjwatson | alex-weej: devel-discuss isn't moderated in any way | 02:30 |
| kwwii | cjwatson: excellent, thanks :-) | 02:30 |
| alex-weej | sorry, i mean ubuntu-devel | 02:30 |
| cjwatson | it's only moderated, not closed | 02:30 |
| cjwatson | sensible posts will still be accepted (er, eventually anyway) | 02:30 |
| alex-weej | heh, yeah | 02:31 |
| cjwatson | but yes, the point of the moderation is to exclude non-sensible posts ;-) | 02:31 |
| alex-weej | fair enough | 02:32 |
| ogra | kwwii, would you mind joining -meeting for a moment ? | 02:32 |
| alex-weej | if i post my new spec to ubuntu-devel, will it be accepted? | 02:32 |
| alex-weej | (the message, that is) | 02:32 |
| === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| cjwatson | alex-weej: maybe; see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelModeration | 02:34 |
| cjwatson | so if it's "ideas and suggestions", it should be devel-discuss | 02:34 |
| cjwatson | if it's something you're *actually going to do* it can be devel | 02:35 |
| alex-weej | i don't know if /i/ can do it | 02:35 |
| alex-weej | it's this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StandardisedHardwareSupport | 02:35 |
| cjwatson | then it should probably be on devel-discuss | 02:35 |
| cjwatson | how is that spec not already satisfied by modaliases? | 02:36 |
| cjwatson | oh, I see, you're talking about package installation | 02:36 |
| cjwatson | it rather conflicts with the goal of being able to shift a hard disk between computers and have it continue to just work | 02:36 |
| cjwatson | which is something we've actively pursued | 02:36 |
| === hunger [n=tobias@163.5.100.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| alex-weej | cjwatson: actually that can be address | 02:37 |
| alex-weej | ed | 02:37 |
| cjwatson | in any case, it should be on devel-discuss unless you have active clear development intentions for it | 02:37 |
| alex-weej | if we adopt something like debfoster / gentoo's "world file" | 02:37 |
| cjwatson | ubuntu-devel@ isn't a channel for wishlists | 02:37 |
| alex-weej | i just need someone with a clue to help me out with the spec | 02:37 |
| alex-weej | cjwatson: the only way hard disk transplanting would always "work" is if all hardware support for every device is always built in to the OS | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | that is indeed the intention | 02:39 |
| alex-weej | do you think that is realistic? | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | and if you look at the kernel we're damn close | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | yes, I do | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | aside from different architectures obviously | 02:39 |
| cjwatson | but that doesn't bother me | 02:39 |
| alex-weej | proprietary drivers? | 02:40 |
| alex-weej | that's already an issue which this would solve | 02:40 |
| alex-weej | (which r-m is kind of solving) | 02:40 |
| alex-weej | and also, this isn't just drivers, this is all of the tools including specialised volume mixers for high-end audio cards, video driver capplets, palm pilot sync, HPLIP Toolbox | 02:40 |
| alex-weej | imagine having tools for every device under the sun all installed on your computer when you only use 1% of them :( | 02:41 |
| cjwatson | there just aren't that many in userspace | 02:41 |
| cjwatson | compared to the vast swathe provided by the kernel packages | 02:42 |
| cjwatson | once x.org does autodetection that will fix some more issues like this | 02:42 |
| alex-weej | right, but you can't expect one-size-fits-all abstracted userspace tools to efficiently do the job for 50 different mutations of the same device class | 02:42 |
| alex-weej | it's the same reason windows graphics drivers have their own control panels | 02:42 |
| mjg59 | We can | 02:42 |
| mjg59 | In Windows it's hard for vendors to drive towards any sort of standardisation | 02:43 |
| cjwatson | in any case, this is still a devel-discuss matter | 02:43 |
| alex-weej | i think the first thing we need to concentrate on is hardware support in the first place | 02:43 |
| alex-weej | let alone telling them that it needs to fit this specific mould | 02:44 |
| cjwatson | anything where you aren't sure if you can do it counts as "ideas or suggestions" :-) | 02:44 |
| alex-weej | ok cjwatson i read the wiki page, thanks | 02:44 |
| cjwatson | funnily enough, we are concentrating on hardware support and continue to do so ... | 02:44 |
| cjwatson | it's kind of important :) | 02:44 |
| alex-weej | cjwatson: well basically, hard disk gutting isn't going to be affected by lack of my mobile phone support on the recipient system | 02:44 |
| mjg59 | We aim for almost all hardware to be supported by the default install | 02:45 |
| alex-weej | right | 02:45 |
| alex-weej | so that's a select range of hardware support packages installed by default | 02:45 |
| === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| alex-weej | but i don't have a Palm device, nor a HP printer | 02:46 |
| === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-26-22.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| alex-weej | and most computer users don't, either | 02:46 |
| mjg59 | The fact that these things are exposed as vendor specific is a bug | 02:47 |
| mjg59 | The additional cost of having them on your system is tiny | 02:47 |
| StevenK | seb128: Are you happy for me to upload zenity? | 02:47 |
| alex-weej | and with good hardware detection, it would be trivial to install the HSPs automatically | 02:47 |
| seb128 | StevenK: yep | 02:47 |
| StevenK | seb128: Okay, thanks! | 02:48 |
| seb128 | np, thank you for the work ;) | 02:48 |
| alex-weej | mjg59: tiny, but still an inconvenience - control centre is messy enough as it is | 02:48 |
| alex-weej | even if HPLIP Toolbox was abstracted away and put into generic printer stuff that is useful to all printer users, i still don't have a printer! | 02:49 |
| alex-weej | so i don't care! | 02:49 |
| elmo | so, who here cares about ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com and desktop-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com? | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | elmo: what about them? | 02:49 |
| elmo | I want to know why we're archiving them, i.e. what the uses cases are | 02:50 |
| cjwatson | alex-weej: good luck automatically detecting a printer that's switched off during installation and that's at the other end of a parallel cable | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | elmo: if the info's all on LP anyway, i've got no idea. | 02:50 |
| alex-weej | cjwatson: Add/Remove Hardware? | 02:51 |
| StevenK | elmo: seb128 may be able to answer for desktop-bugs@lists.u.c | 02:51 |
| cjwatson | a lot of the time we install support for stuff because we *can't* automatically detect it in a reasonable way, and "install it when you find out you need it" is a pain in the arse if "when you need it" is when you're not on the network. | 02:51 |
| cjwatson | add/remove hardware> ugh windows nightmare | 02:51 |
| alex-weej | i've never had any nightmares with it, because i've only EVER had to use it to install an old MIDI joystick and a parallel printer | 02:52 |
| seb128 | elmo: no archiving need for desktop-bugs afaik, it's just useful for desktop team member to get bug mails | 02:52 |
| pitti | arrgh @ continuing chroot problems | 02:52 |
| alex-weej | cjwatson: i'm the last person you'll find singing Windows' praises, honestly :P | 02:53 |
| ogra | pitti, ? | 02:53 |
| ogra | i just successfully built a thin client chroot here | 02:53 |
| ogra | no probs at all | 02:53 |
| StevenK | pitti: Keybuk uploaded devmapper ubuntu10, when it builds, it should fine to requeue stuff | 02:53 |
| pitti | ogra: I got 6 'chroot problem' buildd emails in the last 30 minutes | 02:53 |
| ogra | oh, buildd | 02:53 |
| pitti | StevenK: ah, fine; thanks | 02:54 |
| ogra | i thought you complain about yesterdays debootstrap breakage | 02:54 |
| StevenK | Oh grah, devmapper ubuntu10 has chroot problem | 02:54 |
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| StevenK | Hrm. Does this mean the buildd chroots need to be fixed manually? | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | StevenK: yes. it's already been fixed | 02:58 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: no, I don't think so | 02:58 |
| pitti | StevenK: seems so | 02:58 |
| seb128 | StevenK: BTW for zenity, it's easier to use a zenity.links than using debian/rules hack | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | pitti: Mithrandir got infinity to fix it a couple of hours ago | 02:59 |
| StevenK | seb128: Oh drat. | 02:59 |
| === kkzilla [n=mrbuzz11@c-24-6-9-246.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ogra | seb128, is this ubuntulooks fix something i should have in the edubuntu themes as well ? | 02:59 |
| pitti | Hobbsee: right, but I think this is a new problem | 02:59 |
| === StevenK wonders if he cares enough to upload | ||
| Hobbsee | pitti: ahh | 02:59 |
| seb128 | ogra: dunno, what icon size do you use? | 03:00 |
| StevenK | Hobbsee: Two seperate problems, same source package. Fun. | 03:00 |
| ogra | seb128, i never set one ... | 03:00 |
| seb128 | ogra: well, your icon theme .. | 03:00 |
| ogra | so whatever was the default in the human gtkrc when i splitted off edubuntu themes | 03:00 |
| seb128 | ogra: does it use 22x22 like tango or 24x24 like human? | 03:00 |
| seb128 | what matters is the icon theme | 03:00 |
| ogra | i think 22 | 03:00 |
| seb128 | not the GTK one | 03:00 |
| seb128 | ok, so no | 03:01 |
| ogra | ah, good | 03:01 |
| seb128 | gnome-panel expects 22x22 | 03:01 |
| kwwii | ogra: look at the menu and see if the icons look blurry | 03:01 |
| seb128 | and Human is 24x24 | 03:01 |
| seb128 | so that's a hack to tell it to use the right size | 03:01 |
| kwwii | ogra: and if it is, add seb128's change | 03:01 |
| alex-weej | cjwatson: so should i just sit and wait for someone to approve/disapprove of my spec? | 03:01 |
| ogra | gartoon seems to use 22, at least they dont look blurry | 03:01 |
| === enyc [n=enyc@1337.whitehorse.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | pitti: what's broken this time around? | 03:01 |
| pitti | Setting up libdevmapper1.02 (1.02.08-1ubuntu9) ... | 03:02 |
| pitti | mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/mapper': File exists | 03:02 |
| alex-weej | ah, is that why the panel icons are all blurry? | 03:02 |
| Mithrandir | pitti: ugh. Is this on all builds or just some? | 03:03 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: apparently on all | 03:03 |
| === gnomefre1k [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-94.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti | Mithrandir: Keybuk uploaded a devmapper -10 which will hopefully fix it, but it doesn't build due to that chroot problem. Yay chicken-egg | 03:05 |
| pitti | Mithrandir: (http://librarian.launchpad.net/7140921/devmapper_1.02.08-1ubuntu10_source.changes) | 03:06 |
| === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === svolpe_gerrath [n=Gerrath_@unaffiliated/gerrath] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | pitti: ok, I'll get that fixed. | 03:07 |
| === pitti hugs Mithrandir | ||
| === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti | hi BenC | 03:08 |
| BenC | pitti: hey | 03:08 |
| === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8034.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti | BenC: will you apply the patch in bug 93209 for feisty? if not, I'll need to create a per-arch solution in r-m, but that will take a while; that's why I need to know it soon | 03:09 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 93209 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 "Please ship proper modaliases for nvidia, fglrx & co" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93209 | 03:09 |
| BenC | pitti: Yep, that's what I'm working on now before I upload the lrm to accompany the -14 kernel | 03:10 |
| pitti | BenC: ah, great; thanks | 03:10 |
| iwj | seb128: I seem to be talking past garnacho in #gst. | 03:10 |
| iwj | Perhaps you can help ? | 03:11 |
| pitti | iwj: you scared him :) | 03:12 |
| iwj | Evidently :-). | 03:12 |
| === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| iwj | seb128: Hi again. Is your irc client working now ? | 03:14 |
| seb128 | iwj: yes, network working again | 03:14 |
| iwj | Good. | 03:15 |
| iwj | 14:10 <iwj> seb128: I seem to be talking past garnacho in #gst. | 03:15 |
| iwj | 14:11 <iwj> Perhaps you can help ? | 03:15 |
| seb128 | (the 8029 network driver crashes every now and then) | 03:15 |
| iwj | Nice. | 03:15 |
| seb128 | let me read the #gst backlog | 03:15 |
| iwj | Thanks. Sorry to drag you back into this ... | 03:15 |
| seb128 | np | 03:16 |
| === bahadunn [n=bahadunn@65.75.82.10] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === bahadunn [n=bahadunn@65.75.82.10] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| dholbach | Keybuk: thanks | 03:30 |
| dholbach | kwwii: uploaded | 03:30 |
| seb128 | iwj: looks like the g-s-t architecture will not make that easy, the easier way might be to add a settings on the options tab | 03:30 |
| dholbach | elmo: if it helps you can stop archiving universe-bugs too | 03:30 |
| === rodarvus [n=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| iwj | seb128: `tick this to make it work' | 03:31 |
| iwj | I'm tempted just to rever the change to /etc/ppp/options. | 03:33 |
| iwj | Anyway, lunch really before I die ... | 03:33 |
| === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| alex-weej | wiki updates are /damn slow/ :( | 03:46 |
| === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| alex-weej | seb128: you have marked a number of my bug reports as being due to a memory corruption - why would that happen? i ran memtest for a few passes and had no reported faults | 03:47 |
| seb128 | alex-weej: not a physical memory corruption, a program incorrect free() use or something like that | 03:48 |
| alex-weej | oh, does that render the stack traces useless then? | 03:48 |
| seb128 | yes | 03:48 |
| alex-weej | panties | 03:48 |
| alex-weej | that's a darn shame | 03:48 |
| alex-weej | i have so many unreproducable crashes | 03:49 |
| seb128 | use valgrind | 03:49 |
| seb128 | it lists incorrect memory uses | 03:49 |
| alex-weej | i can't run valgrind on my entire desktop | 03:49 |
| alex-weej | or can i? :P | 03:49 |
| seb128 | you can run app which are crashing with valgrind time to get a debug log | 03:49 |
| seb128 | it slow down things though :*/ | 03:49 |
| seb128 | :/ | 03:50 |
| alex-weej | right, i see | 03:50 |
| alex-weej | problem is, i can't always predict the future | 03:50 |
| seb128 | right | 03:50 |
| alex-weej | it's a shame that unreproducable bugs are kind of second-class citizens in the bugzilla world | 03:51 |
| seb128 | they are not | 03:51 |
| seb128 | we can't work on something without datas on what happened though | 03:51 |
| alex-weej | i understand this i'm not having a go | 03:51 |
| seb128 | I do use valgrind often | 03:51 |
| alex-weej | sometimes when an app is misbehaving | 03:52 |
| seb128 | and we do get quite some logs with it | 03:52 |
| alex-weej | it would be nice if i could take a memory dump, stick it on bugz and have someone probe into it to figure out why it's broken | 03:52 |
| === oxygenws [n=oxygenws@213.207.236.36] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | right | 03:52 |
| seb128 | that's sort of what apport is doing with standard crashes | 03:52 |
| alex-weej | because for every crasher there is, there are just as many hangs/broken states | 03:52 |
| alex-weej | yeah | 03:53 |
| alex-weej | would it be possible to do that with current tools? | 03:53 |
| seb128 | let's already work on all the crasher we have datas on | 03:54 |
| seb128 | there is enough to be busy there :p | 03:54 |
| alex-weej | and would it be beneficial if a developer could say "the next time it does this, run this tool and send me the dump" | 03:54 |
| seb128 | no, we don't | 03:54 |
| alex-weej | as in even while the program is still running | 03:54 |
| seb128 | what we have is "run that app with valgrind, trigger the bug, send the log" | 03:54 |
| alex-weej | i'm not just talking about memory corruption here btw | 03:54 |
| === oxygenws [n=oxygenws@213.207.236.36] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| alex-weej | i mean anything that might make an application "break" but not crash | 03:55 |
| seb128 | there is no magical way no | 03:55 |
| seb128 | anyway, I'm away for some time, later | 03:56 |
| alex-weej | but a post-mortem coredump is just the same as any other coredump isn't it? | 03:56 |
| alex-weej | as in you can delve inside and poke around | 03:57 |
| alex-weej | ok, cya | 03:57 |
| === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@gimel.nas.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === idnar [i=mithrand@unaffiliated/idnar] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| heno | pitti: apport is still switched on for the Live CD right? | 04:08 |
| === Knightlust [n=DaxSolom@203.87.200.214] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| pitti | re | 04:10 |
| === mvo_ [n=egon@p54a6627a.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti | heno: right, it's still fully enabled; I'm going to work on u-n to provide a gconf key for disabling it | 04:10 |
| === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| heno | pitti: could you join #ubuntu-accessibility for a sec? | 04:11 |
| pitti | done | 04:11 |
| === Saied [n=Saied@80.191.2.35] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508d935b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm170.omega16.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.184.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| iwj | Yes, having thought about it over lunch I'm going to change /etc/ppp/options instead of trying to deal with g-s-t :-/. | 04:38 |
| === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kwwii would hug dholbach again but people are going to start thinking strange things :p | ||
| === dholbach hugs kwwii back ;-) | ||
| === bddebian [n=bdefrees@63.81.56.182] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === c5jr [n=usarname@ppp-58.8.86.129.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pochu [n=emilio@ubuntu/member/pochu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| TheMuso | pitti: bug 102909 | 04:49 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102909 in apport "Apport on live CD is attempting to look in /rofs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102909 | 04:49 |
| pitti | TheMuso: thanks | 04:49 |
| TheMuso | np | 04:49 |
| Mithrandir | that's arguably a kernel bug, but it's easier to filter it in all the affected apps. | 04:50 |
| === rtg [n=rtg@12.104.145.50] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === alex-weej [n=alex@halls-129-31-82-59.hor.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sacater_ [n=sacater@213.131.245.105] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Adri2000 | Mithrandir: are you aware of the latest problem with devmapper? Keybuk fixed it but I think now it needs you: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devmapper/2:1.02.08-1ubuntu10 | 05:38 |
| === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host45-36-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ScottK [n=ScottK@static-72-81-252-22.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === j_ack [n=rudi@p508d935b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.78.46.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === evand [n=evand@ubuntu/member/evand] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === reitblatt [n=mark@resnet-50-24.dorm.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === zerbero_ [n=jga@p85.212.78.46.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tkamppeter [n=till@bl10-88-134.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jono [n=jono@ubuntu/member/jono] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| keescook | mornin' folks | 06:17 |
| _ion | Hi | 06:17 |
| === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495664d.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dpm [n=dpm@p54a12da0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | Mithrandir: do we need your approval for GNOME 2.18.1 update next week or can I accept them? | 06:24 |
| superm1 | BenC, ping | 06:26 |
| === desrt adds some code to gnome-random 2.18.1 to make you cry if your username is "seb128" | ||
| seb128 | desrt: :-P | 06:28 |
| dpm | hi, could anyone point me out to the ubuntu webpage where all dates for the several freezes and releases are listed? | 06:31 |
| === j_ack_ [n=rudi@p508d81ba.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dholbach | dpm: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule | 06:32 |
| === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| dpm | dholbach: thank you very much | 06:32 |
| dholbach | dpm: anytime | 06:32 |
| desrt | april 19. handy. | 06:33 |
| desrt | that's exactly how much time i need to decide if i can live with 64bit or not :) | 06:33 |
| geser | are the problems with dmsetup fixed now? | 06:36 |
| Adri2000 | no | 06:38 |
| c5jr | april 19??!?! | 06:42 |
| === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| geser | Adri2000: do you know by coincidence if the failed builds because of dmsetup will be automatically retried of if the build admins need to be poked? | 06:44 |
| === nags [n=nags@122.167.127.129] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Adri2000 | geser: dunno, after the first dmsetup problem was fixed my builds have been retried but I don't know if it was automatic or not | 06:48 |
| === mc44 [n=mc44@unaffiliated/mc44] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| geser | Adri2000: nice, the fixed dmsetup doesn't build because of the broken dmsetup :) | 06:52 |
| BenC | superm1: pong | 06:52 |
| Adri2000 | geser: yep, that's why we need Mithrandir! | 06:52 |
| cjwatson | geser: not entirely automatically, but it's likely that there'll just be a mass give-back, which amounts to the same thing | 06:52 |
| cjwatson | will everyone please stop panicking about buildds. this has been a public service announcement. :-) | 06:52 |
| === illovae [n=illovae@uni14-1-82-233-221-131.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@6-15.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| superm1 | BenC, I didn't hear back from you last week regarding if lirc kernel patch could be applied | 06:53 |
| superm1 | BenC, is there a chance in it happening prior to kernelfreeze tomorrow still? | 06:53 |
| BenC | superm1: Do I have that patch? | 06:53 |
| BenC | I was pretty sure I cleared my patch queue | 06:53 |
| superm1 | BenC, i opened a bug on it | 06:53 |
| superm1 | BenC, let me find it really quick | 06:54 |
| superm1 | BenC, bug 69534 | 06:54 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 69534 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Add lirc to linux-source build tree" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69534 | 06:54 |
| geser | cjwatson: thanks, all I wanted to know if I have self to ask for give-backs or if someone does it once it's fixed | 06:54 |
| BenC | superm1: I'll review it today, thanks | 06:55 |
| superm1 | BenC, thanks | 06:55 |
| superm1 | BenC, i'll be back on in about 30 or 40 min and then on the rest of the day, so just ping me if you have any questions then | 06:55 |
| geser | seb128: do you know if the open sync request will be proceed in the next days? | 06:58 |
| seb128 | geser: I'll do them today, it's my archive day | 06:58 |
| === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495664d.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Konversation] | ||
| === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === LaserJock [n=mantha@adsl-75-14-218-86.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === milli_ [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Burgwork | jono: pong | 07:15 |
| === gismo [n=stef@194.236.146.195.dynamic.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === ivoks [n=ivoks@37-84.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| BenC | Keybuk, iwj: ping, what handles the mapping codes in hotkey-setup? Like if there's a KEY_STOPCD, how does that get to say rhythmbox? | 07:31 |
| === Berardo [n=berardo0@20132177064.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Berardo [n=berardo0@20132177064.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu-devel [] | ||
| === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdz [n=mdz@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | Adri2000: yes, I'm aware of it. | 07:37 |
| Mithrandir | seb128: GNOME 2.18.1> standing approval. If you have changes you want reviewed, please ask. | 07:38 |
| === macd [n=d@adsl-150-22-41.aby.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | Mithrandir: ok | 07:40 |
| seb128 | Mithrandir: so I can process the queue to accept the GNOME 2.18.1 updates? just to be sure we are clear ;) | 07:41 |
| === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === gismo [n=stef@194.236.146.195.dynamic.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | seb128: generally, I prefer people to not accept their own packages, but feel free to nag me about it? | 07:50 |
| === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sacater_ [n=sacater@105.245.131.213.static.inetbone.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === j_ack [n=rudi@p508d81ba.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Bye"] | ||
| === pitti [n=pitti@ubuntu/member/pitti] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === dpm_ [n=dpm@p54A12222.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mbiebl [n=michael@e180083125.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mdke | pitti / seb128: around? | 08:25 |
| pitti | mdke: yes | 08:25 |
| mdke | pitti: hiya. We have a bit of a problem with language-packs/yelp | 08:25 |
| mdke | apparently the translations of the front page are not showing up. | 08:25 |
| mdke | seems that the relevant translations are in the language-packs, but yelp isn't using them because it isn't pulling the translations from the mo files into the relevant yelp infrastructure, which is /usr/share/yelp/toc.xml | 08:26 |
| pitti | mdke: hm, does yelp use the normal .mo files? | 08:26 |
| mdke | apparently not | 08:27 |
| mdke | I mailed the yelp maintainer about it, I'll paste his response somewhere | 08:28 |
| mdke | http://pastebin.ca/424318 | 08:28 |
| === sn0 [n=sno@cpc3-blfs6-0-0-cust294.belf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mdke | pitti: if you're able to shed any more light on that, it would be much appreciated. | 08:31 |
| pitti | mdke: right, so far I think it just helps to rebuild the source with the updated .po files | 08:32 |
| pitti | mdke: danilos has a long-term plan how to fix this, but it's nothing for feisty | 08:33 |
| mdke | I think yelp had a build recently though, is there something more that needs doing to ensure the po files are there? | 08:33 |
| pitti | mdke: they have to be pulled manually from rosetta or the langpack and put into the source, I guess | 08:33 |
| mdke | pitti: ah. Is that something that seb128 will know how to do / is accustomed to doing for other packages? | 08:35 |
| pitti | I think so, yes | 08:35 |
| mdke | I'll mail him and ask | 08:35 |
| === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| keescook | bleh. my feisty builds are all stuck on the libdevmapper issue too. *sigh* Is there an easy work-around? | 08:36 |
| mdke | pitti: unless you think there is a better way to proceed? | 08:36 |
| === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| pitti | mdke: I'm afraid not for Feisty | 08:37 |
| pitti | keescook: we all suffer from that :/ | 08:37 |
| mdke | pitti: that's fine. I'll ask Seb then | 08:37 |
| keescook | pitti: yeah, I read through the backlog | 08:37 |
| === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-aa254c1c3239f92a] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| keescook | I'm assuming all the chroot failures will auto-rebuild later? I uploaded a mess of stuff yesterday that failed due to dmsetup... | 08:37 |
| pitti | keescook: yes, we already had a mass-give-back today, we'll get another one | 08:38 |
| Mithrandir | keescook: wait for Adam to wake up; If he's not done it before I go to bed I might consider fixing it myself, but it's stuff I've never touched before, so I would rather. | 08:38 |
| Mithrandir | keescook: we will get a mass-give-back, yes. | 08:38 |
| keescook | Mithrandir: okay, thanks. Just wanted to be sure I didn't need to go dig through my reject email. :) | 08:38 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: btw, the ubuntu-docs translations went in today so you can see the size difference | 08:39 |
| keescook | I think I can step around this on my own chroots by just dropping the /dev/mapper directory. ;) | 08:39 |
| Mithrandir | mdke: cheers. | 08:39 |
| mdke | Mithrandir: 8.6MB as opposed to 447K (binaries) :( | 08:40 |
| === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| Mithrandir | mdke: .deb size? | 08:40 |
| mdke | right | 08:40 |
| Mithrandir | ugh | 08:41 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| mdke | yeah. It's all text... double the size of the edgy equivalent | 08:41 |
| keescook | Riddell: do packages built against qt 3.3.8 need to get rebuilt against 3.3.8really3.3.7 ? | 08:41 |
| === Tonio__ [n=tonio@230.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| _ion | How about compessing the docs with bzip2? | 08:42 |
| Mithrandir | _ion: we could try that | 08:42 |
| === asac_ [n=asac@e177167048.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mdke | ok! | 08:43 |
| seb128 | mdke: hi | 08:43 |
| mdke | seb128: hiya! Just mailed you | 08:43 |
| seb128 | mdke: updating yelp translations? | 08:43 |
| seb128 | I do that every cycle yes | 08:43 |
| seb128 | the .xml are generated at build time | 08:44 |
| mdke | oh right, great to hear that. | 08:44 |
| seb128 | they don't use language pack | 08:44 |
| mdke | seb128: hopefully it will work for the new frontpage stuff too | 08:44 |
| === asac [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| seb128 | mdke: I'll do an update now | 08:44 |
| === mdke hugs seb128 | ||
| === seb128 hugs mdke | ||
| EtienneG | hey folks | 09:02 |
| pitti | hi EtienneG | 09:02 |
| === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-103-113.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| EtienneG | I'm working on bug #92432 | 09:02 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 92432 in bzr "index.html contains mainly broken links" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92432 | 09:02 |
| EtienneG | there's two way to fix it | 09:03 |
| EtienneG | one involve just the packaging | 09:03 |
| EtienneG | the other, patching the upstream source | 09:03 |
| EtienneG | fixing the packaging is the obvious solution, but that mean that we will end up with HTML documentation that end with a .htm suffix | 09:04 |
| pitti | EtienneG: how come? | 09:04 |
| EtienneG | it's not so bad ... just very ... windowish | 09:04 |
| pitti | EtienneG: why are the links broken in the first place? due to the packaging? | 09:04 |
| EtienneG | pitti, upstream decided that the html doc would end with .htm | 09:04 |
| EtienneG | pitti, yes, the packaging made the link broken | 09:04 |
| EtienneG | they work OOB | 09:04 |
| EtienneG | in upstream | 09:05 |
| EtienneG | I tend toward fixing the packaging and living with doc file that end in .htm suffix, but I am looking for the opinion of wiser people | 09:05 |
| EtienneG | trivial, I know, sorry about the insecurity | 09:06 |
| pitti | EtienneG: I agree, fixing all the links manually to .html sounds painful | 09:06 |
| EtienneG | pitti, it would be a very small patch to upstream, but i would rather stick as close as possible to what they provide | 09:08 |
| pitti | EtienneG: oh, something like 'sed -i s/htm/html' debian/bzr/usr/share/doc/bzr/*.html? :) | 09:09 |
| EtienneG | pitti, no, the doc is in RST (yuck), we would just need to fix file names in a single file, index.txt | 09:10 |
| EtienneG | the html are generated from this rst index.txt | 09:10 |
| pitti | $ locate .htm|grep --count '^/usr.*htm$' | 09:10 |
| pitti | 615 | 09:10 |
| EtienneG | goo dpoint | 09:10 |
| pitti | EtienneG: you would be in good company, so I wouldn't worry too much :) | 09:10 |
| EtienneG | hey ! | 09:10 |
| pitti | $ locate .html|grep --count '^/usr.*html$' | 09:10 |
| pitti | 4362 | 09:10 |
| pitti | for comparison | 09:10 |
| EtienneG | so, something like 15% of HTML doc are suffixed with .htm | 09:11 |
| EtienneG | I usually ask these trivial packaging question to Jeff in a watercooler talk ... but this have been impossible for the past month | 09:12 |
| EtienneG | he's back next Monday, I can't wait ! | 09:12 |
| pitti | EtienneG: I'd say, keep it simple and safe and stick to .htm | 09:13 |
| EtienneG | yep, my opinion too | 09:13 |
| === bluefoxicy [n=bluefox@c-68-33-112-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| bluefoxicy | pitti: I just sent an automagic crash report about xorg | 09:29 |
| bluefoxicy | now what? | 09:29 |
| pitti | bluefoxicy: well, wait for someone to care about it :) | 09:29 |
| bluefoxicy | I was using the via unichrome driver suggested in https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/72630 and xorg crashed when I tried to activate desktop effects on Feisty; but it didn't ask me to fill any of that in and didn't give me a bug report # | 09:30 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 72630 in xserver-xorg-video-via "Xorg Via driver DRI OOPS" [Undecided,Needs info] | 09:30 |
| bluefoxicy | probably a lot easier to debug if you knew wtf I was doing at the time :) | 09:30 |
| === Gman is now known as GmanAFK | ||
| pitti | bluefoxicy: filing the crash bug should direct you to the bug page in the browser | 09:37 |
| bluefoxicy | it didn't open a browser and I didn't have one open. | 09:37 |
| pitti | bluefoxicy: hm, sounds like one instance of the two or three 'firefox does not open' apport bugs | 09:37 |
| === tuna [n=ron@bzq-82-81-98-90.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| EtienneG | I would need a sponsor for an upload of bzr | 09:51 |
| EtienneG | fix #92432, approved by Mithrandir | 09:52 |
| === mvo [n=egon@p54a6627a.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| EtienneG | package is at http://people.ubuntu.com/~etienne/bzr/ | 09:53 |
| mvo | EtienneG! | 09:54 |
| EtienneG | mvo ! | 09:54 |
| === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mdke [n=matt@212-139-116-224.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| ajmitch | morning | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | hi ajmitch | 10:06 |
| ajmitch | hey LaserJock | 10:06 |
| === sharms [n=sharms@ubuntu/member/sharms] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| EtienneG | I reiterate my sponsor request for a bzr upload ... it's for a milestone, and I presume it need to get in ASAP | 10:16 |
| mvo | EtienneG: I can do it in 5 minutes if you don't have someone else | 10:16 |
| EtienneG | mvo, thanks, I did not want to ask you specifically since I know how busy you are ... | 10:17 |
| mvo | EtienneG: no worries | 10:18 |
| === tormod [n=tormod@80-219-112-71.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mvo | ogra: ping | 10:21 |
| mvo | ogra_: ping | 10:23 |
| mvo | ogra, ogra_: please check my comment in #94712 when you have some time | 10:24 |
| EtienneG | mvo, you're my man ! The package is at http://people.ubuntu.com/~etienne/bzr/, and it close bug #92432 | 10:24 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 92432 in bzr "index.html contains mainly broken links" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92432 | 10:24 |
| mvo | EtienneG: doing that now | 10:25 |
| EtienneG | thanks a lot | 10:25 |
| === james_w [n=jw2328@217.147.94.141] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| EtienneG | it's getting chilly, I can already feel the freeze ! | 10:25 |
| james_w | Could anybody suggest the best way of getting in touch with mdz? Is email a good choice, he doesn't seem to be in here? | 10:27 |
| === vorian [n=vorian@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| mvo | james_w: email is a good choice | 10:27 |
| james_w | thanks mvo | 10:27 |
| mvo | EtienneG: looks good, I take it that you tested it? | 10:28 |
| EtienneG | mvo, yes | 10:29 |
| === LeeJunFan_ [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === mvo pats "gdebi debian/control" | ||
| ajmitch | EtienneG: going to put your application in for MOTU to the MC sometime? | 10:30 |
| EtienneG | mvo, if you debdiff, you can see it's really just the html doc stuff that got changed | 10:30 |
| mvo | EtienneG: yes, I noticed :) | 10:30 |
| EtienneG | ajmitch, yes ... I keep thinking about that .... | 10:30 |
| mvo | EtienneG: I will give it a quick testbuild/test, but I don't expect any trouble | 10:31 |
| EtienneG | ajmitch, my upload monkey (jbailey) really want me to get it, but I am somewhat insecure | 10:31 |
| === shackan [n=shackan@host209-3-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| EtienneG | mvo, sure, and enjoy working HTML doc | 10:32 |
| === mvo enjoys | ||
| EtienneG | :) | 10:35 |
| mvo | EtienneG: uploaded, bzr is the love | 10:40 |
| EtienneG | mvo, thanks ! | 10:40 |
| === kwwii [n=kwwii@p5495664d.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === tkamppeter [n=till@bl10-89-88.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === markoa [n=markoa@82.208.237.52] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Gman [i=gman@nat/sun/x-7393a6bc067d5f69] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === sahin_h [n=ezaz@dsl5402AB6C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === Spads [n=spacehob@host-87-74-54-105.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === styx| [n=kvirc@p57a4b549.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === milli [n=milli@famfrit.acmeps.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === vciaglia [n=vciaglia@host151-154-dynamic.16-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === shackan_ [n=shackan@host252-138-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === shackan__ [n=shack@host252-138-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === gismo [n=stef@194.236.146.195.dynamic.adsl.abo.nordnet.fr] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === j_ack [n=rudi@p508d81ba.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === LeeJunFan [i=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
| === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-devel | ||
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
