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=== Topic for #ubuntu-meeting: Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 04 Apr 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 05 Apr 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 11 Apr 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 12 Apr 21:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team
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jsgotangco@schedule Manila10:06
ubotuSchedule for Asia/Manila: 04 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 06 Apr 00:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 11 Apr 04:00: Technical Board | 12 Apr 04:00: Edubuntu | 13 Apr 04:00: MOTU | 13 Apr 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team10:06
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ubotuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 04 Apr 12:00: Edubuntu | 05 Apr 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 20:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team01:14
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:ubotu] : Current meeting: Edubuntu | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 05 Apr 16:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00 UTC: Technical Board | 11 Apr 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 20:00 UTC: MOTU | 12 Apr 21:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team
ajmitchargh, edubuntu meeting01:51
ajmitchand I was wanting to sleep, too01:51
cbx33hehe01:52
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RichEdhello all02:02
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RichEdogra: Technical02:02
ogra_yep02:03
ogra_one sec02:03
ograah, thats better02:03
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Kamping_Kaiserhi02:04
ogramost of my dev time was spent on bug #97456 this last week02:04
ubotuMalone bug 97456 in ltsp "eBox 2300 boots VERY slow with Ubuntu/LTSP-5" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9745602:04
ograand other ltsp bugs02:04
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ogragiven that we had more and more complaints about bootspeed for feisty that was a very important bug to work on and we decided upstream in ltsp to focus on bootspeeed for feisty+1 in our specs02:05
ograi.e. UDS ltsp sessions will be about an ldm rewrite as well as kernel improvements02:06
ograon the edubuntu side i fixed some artwork glitches and laserjock forwarded me the edubuntu-docs package which is included now02:06
ograthe yepl bug that supressed the handbook from the yelp mainh page was fixed as well02:06
ajmitchhi02:07
ogra*yelp02:07
RichEdhi ajmitch, Kamping_Kaiser02:07
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ograi didnt test the CDs during the last days but i dont expect any regressions02:07
ograsomething that blocks the release from edubuntu POV is bug #10002102:08
ubotuMalone bug 100021 in ltsp "[Feisty]  LTSP fails on multi-homed server due to network manager touching predefined static interfaces" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10002102:08
Kamping_Kaiserhi RichEd02:08
ograi requested it as milestone bug from Mithrandir but he didnt accept it yet02:08
ograwe need that either fixed or i will need to drop network-manager completely from edubuntu02:08
ograwhich would be odd ...02:09
Kamping_Kaisernm is a nucence with custom configs :\02:09
ograbug 94712 should apprently be fixed, i havent tested that yet, if someone has an up to date imafge from the second CD it would be nice to tell if its there02:10
ubotuMalone bug 94712 in gnome-app-install "qcad and rasmol have no app-install entry on the edubuntu serveraddon CD" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9471202:10
ograi'll test that anyway, but need to sync my images first02:10
ograi think thats all from the tech side this week02:10
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ograoh, in case anyone is 9intrested, i started hacking on a C based greeter for ldm ... very trivial start code is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/02:13
ogra(havent put that in bzr yet)02:13
Treenaks$ bzr branch http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/02:13
Treenaksnow THAT would rock :)02:13
ogra*g*02:13
TreenaksSeveas: feature request :P02:14
ograsperc it ;)02:14
ogra*spec02:14
SeveasTreenaks, wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/plain -O foo.c02:15
Seveas:p02:15
cbx33Seveas: haha02:16
TreenaksSeveas: gcc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/plain -O foo.o02:16
TreenaksThe Web is My Filesystem02:16
Seveasdavfs :)02:16
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Seveas(no, pastebin doesn't do DAV :p)02:17
TreenaksSeveas: Regel Dat :P02:17
SeveasTreenaks, beware or I'll bring the cluebat with me to sevilla02:17
ograRichEd, netx topic ?02:18
ogra*next even02:18
RichEdTopic: documentation02:18
TreenaksSeveas: oh, you're coming too?02:18
ograRichEd, oh, we wanted to do one single documentation topic again i didnt update the agenda yet02:19
RichEdogra: I've just updated now ... let me c&p the headings02:19
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ogradocumentation looks good so far, i got a new edubuntu-docs package from laserjock yesterday but with the note that there are still pending changes and i shouldnt upload yet02:20
ograso its sitting on my disk, waiting for the final version02:20
RichEd1: Technical02:20
RichEd2: Documentation02:20
RichEd3: Art Work02:20
RichEd4: Web Sites02:20
RichEd5: Community02:20
RichEd6: Management & Planning02:20
ograthe handbook is reasonable good (still lacking parts but usable)02:20
ograplease proofread that stuff now that its in the distro02:21
ograyou can either reach it via the icon in the system menu or for the handbook through the yelp startpage02:22
cbx33ko02:22
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ograany other doc stuff ?02:23
ogradoesnt look like02:23
ograwell, i'm really happy with the current edubuntu-docs ... LaserJock and nixternal deserve a big hug for taking that task02:24
RichEddoc: just to comment that we should have a lot of the edubuntu doc people in one place at UDS02:24
RichEdso we can organise a BOF or side meeting on how to improve the docs and processes02:25
ograthat'd be good02:25
RichEdand also any organisational issues relating to the web sites and doc hosting02:25
ograyeah02:26
RichEdshould I create a spec for that ?02:26
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ograsounds like it would make sense, yes02:26
RichEdand if yes, first and edubuntu doc discussion and then a edubuntu as part of ubuntu docs, or make this one meeting. i.e. should we chat internally first, and then talk to the main team ?02:27
RichEdfirst *an edubuntu02:27
ograi think we'll have separate tasks to discuss ... but for plocies and methods there should be joint sessions02:27
ogra*policies02:28
RichEdokay, i'll look at an "internal" and "integration" as seperate sessions02:28
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ograyup02:28
ograis that it for docs ?02:29
RichEdlooks like it02:30
RichEd3: Art Work02:30
ograok, anything for artwork ?02:30
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ogra(and if he even has any regarding edubuntu or if we are on our own)02:31
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ograhey kwwii02:32
kwwiihowdy02:32
kwwiiwassup?02:32
ogra* ogra wonders if he should ping kwwii in -devel to hear about his plans for feisty+102:32
ogra<ogra> (and if he even has any regarding edubuntu or if we are on our own)02:32
RichEdkwwii: you have radar ears02:32
ograwe're in our weekly edubuntu meeting02:32
kwwiiI am good ;-)02:32
ograand usually discuss artwork here as one topic ...02:33
cbx33hey kwwii02:33
ogrado you have plans for feisty+1 regarding edubuntu ?02:33
RichEdogra: we need to clear up how the artwork will work from a resource and process point of view ... so kwwii we'd appreciate your thoughts02:33
kwwiias far as artwork goes, I was planning on starting the planning as soon as feisty is out the door (so, next week)02:33
cbx33heheh02:33
cbx33planning of starting the planning :p02:34
ograwell, release is 19th :)02:34
kwwiithere are basically two options: try to make all the derivs somewhat similar, or keep going down the path we have been, making them different02:34
ograso you have two ;)02:34
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ograwell, edubuntu stays pretty close to ubuntu now02:34
cbx33hey jsgotangco02:34
ogragdm and the gnome splash are identical ... just slightly differing in colot or layout02:34
kwwiiogra: right02:35
ograsince i plan to rewwrite ldm in feisty+1 i will be able to make ldm look the same as well02:35
RichEdkwwii: we see ourselves as a variant (that's the best term silbs and I could come up with) ... so we'd like to keep the theme and look related02:35
cbx33ogra: and have the clock :p02:35
jsgotangcosorry a bit late02:35
ograso all we're differing in is the gtk theme colors and wallpaper02:35
kwwiiRichEd: excellent, that makes things much easier :-)02:35
cbx33and icons02:35
ograah, right icons02:36
jsgotangcoare we having last minute art changes?02:36
cbx33not that I know of02:36
ograjsgotangco, not planned yet, no, do you want any ?02:36
kwwiijsgotangco: hopefully not02:36
ogranow would be the time to do them if so ;)02:36
RichEdkwwii: our thoughts were that we would possibly like to get input from our community, for ideas and inspiration, but to treat the input as raw material. then we'd have it polished and matched.02:36
kwwiiI've sent a mail to mark and jane concerning this and I will call her later in the day02:36
ograwell, from my POV it would be ok to keep it the same but have a different colorcode and wallpaper ...02:37
ograso you can still clearly distinguish, but recognize the inheritance02:37
RichEdyep. like flavours of coke. different but related.02:38
kwwiiRichEd: that is exactly what I wanted to do as well...check out how redhat did it, they got it right http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=6202:38
ogralike we have it in the gdm theme in feisty02:38
RichEdkwwii: loading ...02:38
kwwiithey have an artist that works out the final work with the basis coming from the community02:38
jsgotangconice!02:38
kwwiiif we start asap we have 6 months to get it right this time too02:39
RichEdexactly. allow community to participate, and then defer end result to a coordinator.02:39
kwwiiI hope to discuss this with Mark in Spain02:39
RichEdfrom our side, we were proposing using aliasvegas and cbx33 as our 1st line art directors. they would do the initial co-ordination, and send a shortlist through to you.02:40
kwwiiwe *really* need a process like this to improve the artwork02:40
kwwiiRichEd: sounds like a good plan to me02:40
RichEdcan we set up a BOF on artwork for Spain ?02:41
kwwiithat would be a great idea02:41
RichEdIf we bed down a process formally through a BOF then it becomes gospel when published.02:41
kwwiiyepp...that was kinda why I was waiting to write specs02:42
kwwiilast time I wrote them all up before hand and the planning went somewhat awry02:42
kwwii(those were for kubuntu only though)02:43
RichEdI suggest that we bring in Kubuntu and Xubuntu as well as Edubuntu. Talk about a Mother-Process and a Child-Process, and get a cycle going with timings.02:43
RichEdSo that artwork is not part of the release last minute crunch time :)02:43
kwwiiRichEd: sounds excellent - can you plan the BOF? (/me has no idea how to do that)02:43
kwwiimy experience has been that if it is not officialy planned there is little chance to get everyone together02:44
ograwell, our process will always differ slightly since we can just use ubuntus artwork and modify, which ku and xubuntu cant02:44
kwwiiogra: you would be amazed at how similar they are, really02:44
ograheh02:44
RichEdogra: agreed, but that's in the details. the actual process should be well defined, regardless of how the inspiration or material originates.02:45
ograi will surely look02:45
RichEdkwwii: sure ... I'll draft up something, and then assign it to you. Unfortunately cbx33 will not be able to make it to spain, so we'll need to get him in online.02:45
RichEdI'll make sure I am at the session.02:45
kwwiiRichEd: excellent, thanks02:45
ograme too, for the tech stuff ...02:46
cbx33I shall try to attend the session via voip/gobby02:46
cbx33if it's working this time and the timetable is planned far enough in advance02:46
cbx33at least for the initial session02:46
kwwiiwe completely missed out on inviting artists this time around02:46
kwwii;-(02:46
RichEdcbx33: Even if you just IRC in, I'll speak on your behalf.02:46
ograthe timetable should be ready 12h in advance, i dont think its possible to plan further out02:47
kwwiicbx33: we can also discuss things in advance, so that I've some idea of your thoughts02:47
cbx33ogra: that really is no good for me02:47
cbx33I need to know a few days before02:47
RichEdkwwii: the gatekeepers are probably more important to have in the process meeting. a good process will always improve the end results.02:47
cbx33but I'll try and and work with that02:47
ogracbx33, a UDS has a slight dynamic ....02:47
cbx33i can understand that02:47
cbx33but maybe plan the first 2/3 days a few weeks in advance02:48
cbx33then the last 2 could be dynamic02:48
cbx33you know how many initila sessions you have to get through right?02:48
cbx33gives us outsiders more of a chance of being able to attend02:48
RichEdcbx33: no worries ... i'll make decisions on your behalf ;) and volunteer you where necessary02:48
jsgotangco2 or at most 302:48
cbx33thanks rexbron02:48
cbx33RichEd:02:48
kwwiiwell, I won't be coming until tuesday anyway, so we can plan it for sometime later in the week and things should work out fine, with advance notice02:48
RichEdright .... so that's the future view ... what about feisty ...02:49
ograRichEd, do you like the artwork ?02:49
RichEdall under control at the moment, or things to resolve still ?02:49
ograartwork is done since the artwork freeze indeed02:49
kwwiiI think all the major pieces are in place, or?02:49
RichEdogra: where can I find it ? (haven't had time to download a test version yet)02:50
ograthere were some minor bugs i fixed last week02:50
ograbut beyond that it should be ready for release now02:50
cbx33:D02:50
ograRichEd, only here atm http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/gnome/edubuntu-artwork02:51
ograor if ypou install feisty or test the liveCD02:51
RichEdthanks02:51
ograi'll do some screenshots after the final freeze02:52
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cbx33sorry.....ony had an hour allocated02:54
cbx33got to get home ;)02:54
ogralooks like we're done with artwork02:54
RichEdthanks kwwii02:54
RichEdmoving on: Web Sites02:54
kwwiigreat, thanks all02:54
ograyeah thanks for joining02:55
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kwwiinp02:55
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RichEdNot much to report here ... pips1 and I have not had a chance to meet up ... and will van der leij has been off ill.02:55
RichEdJust to fill you in: will caught a meningitus type infection in Argentina, and was hopitalised for 10 days.02:56
cbx33bye all02:56
cbx33oh no02:56
cbx33if you can get a message to him02:56
cbx33wish him well from me02:56
jsgotangconasty02:56
RichEdLuckily it was bacterial, and not viral, so he did not have a high brain temperature. He was discharged yesterday, and will be on bed rest until the end of next week, working through his email backlog slowly.02:57
merriamWill van der Leij?02:57
RichEdTo add to that, he was robbed at gun-point on the last day in Argentina.02:57
RichEdYep, that's him.02:57
merriamoh dear02:57
jsgotangcomay i suggest that we totally change our website backend to something more hmmm...configurable..drupal is pretty drab when it comes to this02:58
ograwell, ubuntu just switched to dripal as well02:58
ogra*drupal02:58
ograand wasnt configurability over moin the reason to switch to it at all ?02:58
RichEdjsgotangco: matt nuzum is making a drupal them available for flavouration by each variant02:59
RichEd*theme02:59
RichEdwe'll have input and local control, as with artwork, but this will help with consistency across the distros02:59
highvoltagecool02:59
jsgotangcothat's cool03:00
RichEdhe will do the same with loco's ... and possibly even an "approved loco theme" ... and an "unofficial loco theme" base03:00
RichEdthe idea will be to make all the sites look related, but to provide an immediate visual clue as to where you are at any given time03:00
jsgotangcoshould work03:01
RichEdnote that Ubuntu is now moving into a the higher levels, and the marketing / image needs to be professional an clear.03:02
RichEdwe've been promoted to Intel Partner level 103:02
ogra\o/03:02
RichEdand also are making it onto Gartner ratings & reports03:02
ogra\o/03:02
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jsgotangcoits nice to see the project take off03:03
ograits hard to see it growing to a real company from the inside though :)03:04
ograwe suddenly have buerocracy *g*03:04
RichEdindeed .... from humble beginnings, and hard work from a lot of dedicated people, a 3 year old upstart is making an impact few belived possible.03:04
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RichEd*believed03:04
jsgotangcooh well03:05
RichEdright ... moving on ...03:05
RichEd5: Community03:05
RichEdJono and I have spoken about creating a community around schools & sudents ... under each loco group.03:05
RichEdIn SA, they have a SLUG = schools linux user group03:06
RichEdWe think it would be good to try to get some of these going in various countries, as a wy of uniting indivuduals who play with open source, but who do not use it at school, as well as the schools who use Ubuntu.03:07
RichEdWe'll thrash out some ideas at UES and UDS around this.03:07
jsgotangcothat's well and good, but your biggest stumblilng block is to have these loco people, who are all volunteers dedicated more time for such03:07
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RichEdjsgotangco: I understand, but we hope that the schools people will have time themselves. Ideally a teacher would head up the effort.03:08
RichEdThe other tangential link to this was promoting Ubuntu as a developer environment, an for our specific case, an environment which can be used to teach computer programming.03:09
RichEdWe're still going to work out how to relate these two together, and may motivate to get Jono an assistant to look after the education aspects of community.03:10
RichEdThat will be a UES discussion.03:10
RichEd6: Management & Planning03:11
jsgotangcowell good luck, schools are easy to get for sure but to have them part of the general user community is a different matter03:11
RichEdjsgotangco: that's why we want a focus person.03:11
RichEdI've got quite a few papers submitted for UES, and it's looking good for both the educator discussions, as well as dicussion topics for the technical track.03:12
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RichEdWe'll have Guadelinex present, as well as meDUXa ... each for a presentation on their distro, and discussions on how to work more closely together.03:13
RichEdI will get all the presentations, and work with the people and marketing to turn these into approved case studies.03:14
RichEdAlso includes Georgia and their Kubuntu rollout.03:15
RichEdAnd also, Intel are producing a Classmate PC to pitch into the OLPC space ... at around $270.03:15
RichEdThey are sending a bunch of engineers to UES and UDS to discuss how we get ubuntu and edubuntu running on the system.03:16
jsgotangcoi don't see it much of a problem, its pretty much an intel mobile celeron platform03:16
RichEdThey are currently developing in Poland, Egypt, Brazil, Nigeria, Mexico, India and China.03:17
RichEdjsgotangco: they have limited hardware power, and may go for Xubuntu with Edubuntu on top of that.03:17
RichEdBut nice news to hear that they are looking to us, for what seems to be a significant education project.03:18
jsgotangcojust a hanging question before you go on, whatever happened to the OLPC spec for ubuntu/edubuntu which rodarvus is supposed to handle?03:18
ograwas03:19
RichEdjsgotangco: a tale of political intrigue as follows ...03:19
RichEdSIPA was the thai government agency, who were igning a contract with:03:19
RichEd1. OLPC03:19
RichEd2. Canonical03:19
RichEd1. was a commitment to buy several 100,000 devices03:19
RichEd2. was a contract to develop a comparison desktop to sugar03:20
RichEdwhen the prime minister was deposed last year, they backed off 1.03:20
RichEdand as a result, 2. was dropped by them as we were gearing up to sign the MOU03:20
jsgotangcoah well i wondered what happened to it, i have access to a B1 machine anyways03:22
Kamping_Kaiser'compariosn desktop to sugar'?03:22
RichEdso ... it was all out of our control03:22
RichEdthey wanted an edubuntu / ubunto operating system to compare to the RD offering03:22
RichEd*RH not RD03:23
ograjsgotangco, apart from that, since rodrigo is gone we dont have any dedicated ressource for OLPC anymore03:23
Kamping_KaiserSugar runs on ubuntu03:23
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ograi'd guess so03:23
RichEdhighvoltage: that sounds like an epitaph03:23
jsgotangcoogra: oh thats something i didn't know03:23
RichEdKamping_Kaiser: me neither03:24
Kamping_Kaiserum.?03:24
ograjsgotangco, we talked about it in several meetings, i thought you had attended one of these03:24
Kamping_Kaiserwas that meant to be to me?03:24
jsgotangcosorry can't recall well its the past03:24
RichEdKamping_Kaiser: my comment referred to your sugar comment03:25
Kamping_KaiserRichEd, but doesnt make sense. 'sugar runs on ubuntu' ' me neither'03:25
jsgotangcolol03:25
RichEdKamping_Kaiser: read jsgotangco comment in between those03:26
RichEdwhile I am fascinated by the whole OLPC drive, and have a lot of respect for what they are trying to achieve, and some of the brilliant ideas, I think they are a way off getting a production device into the hands of school kids.03:26
RichEdIntel with its muscle and market power may get more results in the short term.03:26
RichEd*although I must add that I support freedom from market monopolies* :)03:27
jsgotangcoRichEd: dude, I'm sorry to say this, no offense meant but Intel's Classmate PC project is a pretty much a reaction to OLPC along with its partnership with MS03:27
=== highvoltage thinks that the OLPC guys have done brilliant work in terms of innovation
highvoltageIntel's initial plan was to ship Windows with their low-end education laptops. how boring is that?03:28
ograbut they dont have that big financial backing03:28
RichEdjsgotangco: agreed ... but real devices in the hands of people has greater impact than imagination.03:28
ograhaving intel pushing there will gain more than the whole OLPC project i suspect03:28
highvoltageinnovation is innovation. lots of famous scientists didn't have financial backing either, yet we use their technologies every day.03:28
RichEdhighvoltage: they have some amazing concepts ... quite breakthrough thinking03:28
ograeven though olpc prepared the ground03:29
RichEdthe main thing is that Intel see fit to talk to Ubuntu ... which is a win for freedom inside their muscle space03:29
highvoltageRichEd: yep03:29
highvoltageRichEd: agreed03:29
jsgotangcoso we're pretty much being practical now which is understandable03:29
RichEdogra: that's how innovation often works, the small guys challenge the thinking, and force the big guys to react. sometimes the end result is still a win for the big guys, but the smaller guys innovation leads to the product improvement03:30
RichEdsuch is the way of our capitalist world03:30
RichEd...03:30
ograright ... and in the end M$ buys them :)03:30
RichEdsomehow I don't see mark shaking on a deal with bill ;)03:31
ograheh03:31
RichEdAnd a final comment from me is a follow up to the Nigeria conference I attended:03:31
RichEdwe ran an Ubuntu iCafe for delagates ... well received03:31
ogranice03:31
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RichEdhey hey mr rodarvus03:31
rodarvushi there :)03:31
ograrodarvus, !03:32
RichEdthe conference was sponsored by UNDESA to set up a shared parliamentary network for African Countries, based on Open Source03:32
rodarvusfigured I'd pass by and say hello to you guys :)03:32
RichEdThey will be sharing an application pool, and developing jointly.03:32
ogragood timing :)03:32
rodarvus(but please don't interrupt the meeting just for me :) )03:32
RichEdUbuntu was synonymous with Open Source in all presentations, so we won some good mindset03:33
ogracool!03:33
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RichEdAnd we were told on Monday that the National Assembly of Cameroon has agreed to get ubuntu installed on the 50 new PCs currently being procured.03:34
RichEd... and that's all from me folks03:34
ograwe have some shool admins from cameroon that drop by from time to time in #edubuntu03:35
ogra(running edubuntu)03:35
RichEdogra: well grab them next time ! we need to build on this.03:35
ograyeah03:35
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ograi'll try to think of it next time i run into them03:36
RichEdhighvoltage: expand on that comment ?03:37
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RichEdwe've been asked by UNDESA to suggest how we train the trainers (a university across the road from the government buildings) to provide ongoing training and support in french03:38
RichEdi.e. Train The Trainer in english, and then hand over to the local03:38
sbalneavMorning RichEd03:38
RichEdhello scotty03:38
RichEdjust wrapping up actually ... any more items ?03:39
ogranone from here03:39
RichEd(ogra: we've managed to cut it down by 20 mins ... next time we aim for 1.5 hours and wean it down to 1)03:39
ograyay03:40
ograso adjourned ?03:40
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RichEdand twice ...03:41
RichEdand thrice ...03:41
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RichEdbeam us out of here scotty ...03:41
RichEdthanks all03:41
ograthanks03:41
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BerardoDoes anyone knows Billy Cina?07:28
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