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[10:06] <jsgotangco> @schedule Manila
[10:06] <ubotu> Schedule for Asia/Manila: 04 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 06 Apr 00:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 11 Apr 04:00: Technical Board | 12 Apr 04:00: Edubuntu | 13 Apr 04:00: MOTU | 13 Apr 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[01:14] <highvoltage> @schedule
[01:14] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 04 Apr 12:00: Edubuntu | 05 Apr 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 20:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[01:51] <ajmitch> argh, edubuntu meeting
[01:51] <ajmitch> and I was wanting to sleep, too
[01:52] <cbx33> hehe
[02:02] <RichEd> hello all
[02:02] <RichEd> ogra: Technical
[02:03] <ogra_> yep
[02:03] <ogra_> one sec
[02:03] <ogra> ah, thats better
[02:04] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi
[02:04] <ogra> most of my dev time was spent on bug #97456 this last week
[02:04] <ubotu> Malone bug 97456 in ltsp "eBox 2300 boots VERY slow with Ubuntu/LTSP-5" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/97456
[02:04] <ogra> and other ltsp bugs
[02:05] <ogra> given that we had more and more complaints about bootspeed for feisty that was a very important bug to work on and we decided upstream in ltsp to focus on bootspeeed for feisty+1 in our specs
[02:06] <ogra> i.e. UDS ltsp sessions will be about an ldm rewrite as well as kernel improvements
[02:06] <ogra> on the edubuntu side i fixed some artwork glitches and laserjock forwarded me the edubuntu-docs package which is included now
[02:06] <ogra> the yepl bug that supressed the handbook from the yelp mainh page was fixed as well
[02:07] <ajmitch> hi
[02:07] <ogra> *yelp
[02:07] <RichEd> hi ajmitch, Kamping_Kaiser
[02:07] <ogra> i didnt test the CDs during the last days but i dont expect any regressions
[02:08] <ogra> something that blocks the release from edubuntu POV is bug #100021
[02:08] <ubotu> Malone bug 100021 in ltsp "[Feisty]  LTSP fails on multi-homed server due to network manager touching predefined static interfaces" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/100021
[02:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi RichEd
[02:08] <ogra> i requested it as milestone bug from Mithrandir but he didnt accept it yet
[02:08] <ogra> we need that either fixed or i will need to drop network-manager completely from edubuntu
[02:09] <ogra> which would be odd ...
[02:09] <Kamping_Kaiser> nm is a nucence with custom configs :\
[02:10] <ogra> bug 94712 should apprently be fixed, i havent tested that yet, if someone has an up to date imafge from the second CD it would be nice to tell if its there
[02:10] <ubotu> Malone bug 94712 in gnome-app-install "qcad and rasmol have no app-install entry on the edubuntu serveraddon CD" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/94712
[02:10] <ogra> i'll test that anyway, but need to sync my images first
[02:10] <ogra> i think thats all from the tech side this week
[02:13] <ogra> oh, in case anyone is 9intrested, i started hacking on a C based greeter for ldm ... very trivial start code is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/
[02:13] <ogra> (havent put that in bzr yet)
[02:13] <Treenaks> $ bzr branch http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/
[02:13] <Treenaks> now THAT would rock :)
[02:13] <ogra> *g*
[02:14] <Treenaks> Seveas: feature request :P
[02:14] <ogra> sperc it ;)
[02:14] <ogra> *spec
[02:15] <Seveas> Treenaks, wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/plain -O foo.c
[02:15] <Seveas> :p
[02:16] <cbx33> Seveas: haha
[02:16] <Treenaks> Seveas: gcc http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13546/plain -O foo.o
[02:16] <Treenaks> The Web is My Filesystem
[02:16] <Seveas> davfs :)
[02:17] <Seveas> (no, pastebin doesn't do DAV :p)
[02:17] <Treenaks> Seveas: Regel Dat :P
[02:17] <Seveas> Treenaks, beware or I'll bring the cluebat with me to sevilla
[02:18] <ogra> RichEd, netx topic ?
[02:18] <ogra> *next even
[02:18] <RichEd> Topic: documentation
[02:18] <Treenaks> Seveas: oh, you're coming too?
[02:19] <ogra> RichEd, oh, we wanted to do one single documentation topic again i didnt update the agenda yet
[02:19] <RichEd> ogra: I've just updated now ... let me c&p the headings
[02:20] <ogra> documentation looks good so far, i got a new edubuntu-docs package from laserjock yesterday but with the note that there are still pending changes and i shouldnt upload yet
[02:20] <ogra> so its sitting on my disk, waiting for the final version
[02:20] <RichEd> 1: Technical
[02:20] <RichEd> 2: Documentation
[02:20] <RichEd> 3: Art Work
[02:20] <RichEd> 4: Web Sites
[02:20] <RichEd> 5: Community
[02:20] <RichEd> 6: Management & Planning
[02:20] <ogra> the handbook is reasonable good (still lacking parts but usable)
[02:21] <ogra> please proofread that stuff now that its in the distro
[02:22] <ogra> you can either reach it via the icon in the system menu or for the handbook through the yelp startpage
[02:22] <cbx33> ko
[02:23] <ogra> any other doc stuff ?
[02:23] <ogra> doesnt look like
[02:24] <ogra> well, i'm really happy with the current edubuntu-docs ... LaserJock and nixternal deserve a big hug for taking that task
[02:24] <RichEd> doc: just to comment that we should have a lot of the edubuntu doc people in one place at UDS
[02:25] <RichEd> so we can organise a BOF or side meeting on how to improve the docs and processes
[02:25] <ogra> that'd be good
[02:25] <RichEd> and also any organisational issues relating to the web sites and doc hosting
[02:26] <ogra> yeah
[02:26] <RichEd> should I create a spec for that ?
[02:26] <ogra> sounds like it would make sense, yes
[02:27] <RichEd> and if yes, first and edubuntu doc discussion and then a edubuntu as part of ubuntu docs, or make this one meeting. i.e. should we chat internally first, and then talk to the main team ?
[02:27] <RichEd> first *an edubuntu
[02:27] <ogra> i think we'll have separate tasks to discuss ... but for plocies and methods there should be joint sessions
[02:28] <ogra> *policies
[02:28] <RichEd> okay, i'll look at an "internal" and "integration" as seperate sessions
[02:28] <ogra> yup
[02:29] <ogra> is that it for docs ?
[02:30] <RichEd> looks like it
[02:30] <RichEd> 3: Art Work
[02:30] <ogra> ok, anything for artwork ?
[02:31] <ogra> (and if he even has any regarding edubuntu or if we are on our own)
[02:32] <ogra> hey kwwii
[02:32] <kwwii> howdy
[02:32] <kwwii> wassup?
[02:32] <ogra> * ogra wonders if he should ping kwwii in -devel to hear about his plans for feisty+1
 (and if he even has any regarding edubuntu or if we are on our own)
[02:32] <RichEd> kwwii: you have radar ears
[02:32] <ogra> we're in our weekly edubuntu meeting
[02:32] <kwwii> I am good ;-)
[02:33] <ogra> and usually discuss artwork here as one topic ...
[02:33] <cbx33> hey kwwii
[02:33] <ogra> do you have plans for feisty+1 regarding edubuntu ?
[02:33] <RichEd> ogra: we need to clear up how the artwork will work from a resource and process point of view ... so kwwii we'd appreciate your thoughts
[02:33] <kwwii> as far as artwork goes, I was planning on starting the planning as soon as feisty is out the door (so, next week)
[02:33] <cbx33> heheh
[02:34] <cbx33> planning of starting the planning :p
[02:34] <ogra> well, release is 19th :)
[02:34] <kwwii> there are basically two options: try to make all the derivs somewhat similar, or keep going down the path we have been, making them different
[02:34] <ogra> so you have two ;)
[02:34] <ogra> well, edubuntu stays pretty close to ubuntu now
[02:34] <cbx33> hey jsgotangco
[02:34] <ogra> gdm and the gnome splash are identical ... just slightly differing in colot or layout
[02:35] <kwwii> ogra: right
[02:35] <ogra> since i plan to rewwrite ldm in feisty+1 i will be able to make ldm look the same as well
[02:35] <RichEd> kwwii: we see ourselves as a variant (that's the best term silbs and I could come up with) ... so we'd like to keep the theme and look related
[02:35] <cbx33> ogra: and have the clock :p
[02:35] <jsgotangco> sorry a bit late
[02:35] <ogra> so all we're differing in is the gtk theme colors and wallpaper
[02:35] <kwwii> RichEd: excellent, that makes things much easier :-)
[02:35] <cbx33> and icons
[02:36] <ogra> ah, right icons
[02:36] <jsgotangco> are we having last minute art changes?
[02:36] <cbx33> not that I know of
[02:36] <ogra> jsgotangco, not planned yet, no, do you want any ?
[02:36] <kwwii> jsgotangco: hopefully not
[02:36] <ogra> now would be the time to do them if so ;)
[02:36] <RichEd> kwwii: our thoughts were that we would possibly like to get input from our community, for ideas and inspiration, but to treat the input as raw material. then we'd have it polished and matched.
[02:36] <kwwii> I've sent a mail to mark and jane concerning this and I will call her later in the day
[02:37] <ogra> well, from my POV it would be ok to keep it the same but have a different colorcode and wallpaper ...
[02:37] <ogra> so you can still clearly distinguish, but recognize the inheritance
[02:38] <RichEd> yep. like flavours of coke. different but related.
[02:38] <kwwii> RichEd: that is exactly what I wanted to do as well...check out how redhat did it, they got it right http://www.isity.net/blog/?p=62
[02:38] <ogra> like we have it in the gdm theme in feisty
[02:38] <RichEd> kwwii: loading ...
[02:38] <kwwii> they have an artist that works out the final work with the basis coming from the community
[02:38] <jsgotangco> nice!
[02:39] <kwwii> if we start asap we have 6 months to get it right this time too
[02:39] <RichEd> exactly. allow community to participate, and then defer end result to a coordinator.
[02:39] <kwwii> I hope to discuss this with Mark in Spain
[02:40] <RichEd> from our side, we were proposing using aliasvegas and cbx33 as our 1st line art directors. they would do the initial co-ordination, and send a shortlist through to you.
[02:40] <kwwii> we *really* need a process like this to improve the artwork
[02:40] <kwwii> RichEd: sounds like a good plan to me
[02:41] <RichEd> can we set up a BOF on artwork for Spain ?
[02:41] <kwwii> that would be a great idea
[02:41] <RichEd> If we bed down a process formally through a BOF then it becomes gospel when published.
[02:42] <kwwii> yepp...that was kinda why I was waiting to write specs
[02:42] <kwwii> last time I wrote them all up before hand and the planning went somewhat awry
[02:43] <kwwii> (those were for kubuntu only though)
[02:43] <RichEd> I suggest that we bring in Kubuntu and Xubuntu as well as Edubuntu. Talk about a Mother-Process and a Child-Process, and get a cycle going with timings.
[02:43] <RichEd> So that artwork is not part of the release last minute crunch time :)
[02:43] <kwwii> RichEd: sounds excellent - can you plan the BOF? (/me has no idea how to do that)
[02:44] <kwwii> my experience has been that if it is not officialy planned there is little chance to get everyone together
[02:44] <ogra> well, our process will always differ slightly since we can just use ubuntus artwork and modify, which ku and xubuntu cant
[02:44] <kwwii> ogra: you would be amazed at how similar they are, really
[02:44] <ogra> heh
[02:45] <RichEd> ogra: agreed, but that's in the details. the actual process should be well defined, regardless of how the inspiration or material originates.
[02:45] <ogra> i will surely look
[02:45] <RichEd> kwwii: sure ... I'll draft up something, and then assign it to you. Unfortunately cbx33 will not be able to make it to spain, so we'll need to get him in online.
[02:45] <RichEd> I'll make sure I am at the session.
[02:45] <kwwii> RichEd: excellent, thanks
[02:46] <ogra> me too, for the tech stuff ...
[02:46] <cbx33> I shall try to attend the session via voip/gobby
[02:46] <cbx33> if it's working this time and the timetable is planned far enough in advance
[02:46] <cbx33> at least for the initial session
[02:46] <kwwii> we completely missed out on inviting artists this time around
[02:46] <kwwii> ;-(
[02:46] <RichEd> cbx33: Even if you just IRC in, I'll speak on your behalf.
[02:47] <ogra> the timetable should be ready 12h in advance, i dont think its possible to plan further out
[02:47] <kwwii> cbx33: we can also discuss things in advance, so that I've some idea of your thoughts
[02:47] <cbx33> ogra: that really is no good for me
[02:47] <cbx33> I need to know a few days before
[02:47] <RichEd> kwwii: the gatekeepers are probably more important to have in the process meeting. a good process will always improve the end results.
[02:47] <cbx33> but I'll try and and work with that
[02:47] <ogra> cbx33, a UDS has a slight dynamic ....
[02:47] <cbx33> i can understand that
[02:48] <cbx33> but maybe plan the first 2/3 days a few weeks in advance
[02:48] <cbx33> then the last 2 could be dynamic
[02:48] <cbx33> you know how many initila sessions you have to get through right?
[02:48] <cbx33> gives us outsiders more of a chance of being able to attend
[02:48] <RichEd> cbx33: no worries ... i'll make decisions on your behalf ;) and volunteer you where necessary
[02:48] <jsgotangco> 2 or at most 3
[02:48] <cbx33> thanks rexbron
[02:48] <cbx33> RichEd:
[02:48] <kwwii> well, I won't be coming until tuesday anyway, so we can plan it for sometime later in the week and things should work out fine, with advance notice
[02:49] <RichEd> right .... so that's the future view ... what about feisty ...
[02:49] <ogra> RichEd, do you like the artwork ?
[02:49] <RichEd> all under control at the moment, or things to resolve still ?
[02:49] <ogra> artwork is done since the artwork freeze indeed
[02:49] <kwwii> I think all the major pieces are in place, or?
[02:50] <RichEd> ogra: where can I find it ? (haven't had time to download a test version yet)
[02:50] <ogra> there were some minor bugs i fixed last week
[02:50] <ogra> but beyond that it should be ready for release now
[02:50] <cbx33> :D
[02:51] <ogra> RichEd, only here atm http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/gnome/edubuntu-artwork
[02:51] <ogra> or if ypou install feisty or test the liveCD
[02:51] <RichEd> thanks
[02:52] <ogra> i'll do some screenshots after the final freeze
[02:54] <cbx33> sorry.....ony had an hour allocated
[02:54] <cbx33> got to get home ;)
[02:54] <ogra> looks like we're done with artwork
[02:54] <RichEd> thanks kwwii
[02:54] <RichEd> moving on: Web Sites
[02:54] <kwwii> great, thanks all
[02:55] <ogra> yeah thanks for joining
[02:55] <kwwii> np
[02:55] <RichEd> Not much to report here ... pips1 and I have not had a chance to meet up ... and will van der leij has been off ill.
[02:56] <RichEd> Just to fill you in: will caught a meningitus type infection in Argentina, and was hopitalised for 10 days.
[02:56] <cbx33> bye all
[02:56] <cbx33> oh no
[02:56] <cbx33> if you can get a message to him
[02:56] <cbx33> wish him well from me
[02:56] <jsgotangco> nasty
[02:57] <RichEd> Luckily it was bacterial, and not viral, so he did not have a high brain temperature. He was discharged yesterday, and will be on bed rest until the end of next week, working through his email backlog slowly.
[02:57] <merriam> Will van der Leij?
[02:57] <RichEd> To add to that, he was robbed at gun-point on the last day in Argentina.
[02:57] <RichEd> Yep, that's him.
[02:57] <merriam> oh dear
[02:58] <jsgotangco> may i suggest that we totally change our website backend to something more hmmm...configurable..drupal is pretty drab when it comes to this
[02:58] <ogra> well, ubuntu just switched to dripal as well
[02:58] <ogra> *drupal
[02:58] <ogra> and wasnt configurability over moin the reason to switch to it at all ?
[02:59] <RichEd> jsgotangco: matt nuzum is making a drupal them available for flavouration by each variant
[02:59] <RichEd> *theme
[02:59] <RichEd> we'll have input and local control, as with artwork, but this will help with consistency across the distros
[02:59] <highvoltage> cool
[03:00] <jsgotangco> that's cool
[03:00] <RichEd> he will do the same with loco's ... and possibly even an "approved loco theme" ... and an "unofficial loco theme" base
[03:00] <RichEd> the idea will be to make all the sites look related, but to provide an immediate visual clue as to where you are at any given time
[03:01] <jsgotangco> should work
[03:02] <RichEd> note that Ubuntu is now moving into a the higher levels, and the marketing / image needs to be professional an clear.
[03:02] <RichEd> we've been promoted to Intel Partner level 1
[03:02] <ogra> \o/
[03:02] <RichEd> and also are making it onto Gartner ratings & reports
[03:02] <ogra> \o/
[03:03] <jsgotangco> its nice to see the project take off
[03:04] <ogra> its hard to see it growing to a real company from the inside though :)
[03:04] <ogra> we suddenly have buerocracy *g*
[03:04] <RichEd> indeed .... from humble beginnings, and hard work from a lot of dedicated people, a 3 year old upstart is making an impact few belived possible.
[03:04] <RichEd> *believed
[03:05] <jsgotangco> oh well
[03:05] <RichEd> right ... moving on ...
[03:05] <RichEd> 5: Community
[03:05] <RichEd> Jono and I have spoken about creating a community around schools & sudents ... under each loco group.
[03:06] <RichEd> In SA, they have a SLUG = schools linux user group
[03:07] <RichEd> We think it would be good to try to get some of these going in various countries, as a wy of uniting indivuduals who play with open source, but who do not use it at school, as well as the schools who use Ubuntu.
[03:07] <RichEd> We'll thrash out some ideas at UES and UDS around this.
[03:07] <jsgotangco> that's well and good, but your biggest stumblilng block is to have these loco people, who are all volunteers dedicated more time for such
[03:08] <RichEd> jsgotangco: I understand, but we hope that the schools people will have time themselves. Ideally a teacher would head up the effort.
[03:09] <RichEd> The other tangential link to this was promoting Ubuntu as a developer environment, an for our specific case, an environment which can be used to teach computer programming.
[03:10] <RichEd> We're still going to work out how to relate these two together, and may motivate to get Jono an assistant to look after the education aspects of community.
[03:10] <RichEd> That will be a UES discussion.
[03:11] <RichEd> 6: Management & Planning
[03:11] <jsgotangco> well good luck, schools are easy to get for sure but to have them part of the general user community is a different matter
[03:11] <RichEd> jsgotangco: that's why we want a focus person.
[03:12] <RichEd> I've got quite a few papers submitted for UES, and it's looking good for both the educator discussions, as well as dicussion topics for the technical track.
[03:13] <RichEd> We'll have Guadelinex present, as well as meDUXa ... each for a presentation on their distro, and discussions on how to work more closely together.
[03:14] <RichEd> I will get all the presentations, and work with the people and marketing to turn these into approved case studies.
[03:15] <RichEd> Also includes Georgia and their Kubuntu rollout.
[03:15] <RichEd> And also, Intel are producing a Classmate PC to pitch into the OLPC space ... at around $270.
[03:16] <RichEd> They are sending a bunch of engineers to UES and UDS to discuss how we get ubuntu and edubuntu running on the system.
[03:16] <jsgotangco> i don't see it much of a problem, its pretty much an intel mobile celeron platform
[03:17] <RichEd> They are currently developing in Poland, Egypt, Brazil, Nigeria, Mexico, India and China.
[03:17] <RichEd> jsgotangco: they have limited hardware power, and may go for Xubuntu with Edubuntu on top of that.
[03:18] <RichEd> But nice news to hear that they are looking to us, for what seems to be a significant education project.
[03:18] <jsgotangco> just a hanging question before you go on, whatever happened to the OLPC spec for ubuntu/edubuntu which rodarvus is supposed to handle?
[03:19] <ogra> was
[03:19] <RichEd> jsgotangco: a tale of political intrigue as follows ...
[03:19] <RichEd> SIPA was the thai government agency, who were igning a contract with:
[03:19] <RichEd> 1. OLPC
[03:19] <RichEd> 2. Canonical
[03:19] <RichEd> 1. was a commitment to buy several 100,000 devices
[03:20] <RichEd> 2. was a contract to develop a comparison desktop to sugar
[03:20] <RichEd> when the prime minister was deposed last year, they backed off 1.
[03:20] <RichEd> and as a result, 2. was dropped by them as we were gearing up to sign the MOU
[03:22] <jsgotangco> ah well i wondered what happened to it, i have access to a B1 machine anyways
[03:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'compariosn desktop to sugar'?
[03:22] <RichEd> so ... it was all out of our control
[03:22] <RichEd> they wanted an edubuntu / ubunto operating system to compare to the RD offering
[03:23] <RichEd> *RH not RD
[03:23] <ogra> jsgotangco, apart from that, since rodrigo is gone we dont have any dedicated ressource for OLPC anymore
[03:23] <Kamping_Kaiser> Sugar runs on ubuntu
[03:23] <ogra> i'd guess so
[03:23] <RichEd> highvoltage: that sounds like an epitaph
[03:23] <jsgotangco> ogra: oh thats something i didn't know
[03:24] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: me neither
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> um.?
[03:24] <ogra> jsgotangco, we talked about it in several meetings, i thought you had attended one of these
[03:24] <Kamping_Kaiser> was that meant to be to me?
[03:24] <jsgotangco> sorry can't recall well its the past
[03:25] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: my comment referred to your sugar comment
[03:25] <Kamping_Kaiser> RichEd, but doesnt make sense. 'sugar runs on ubuntu' ' me neither'
[03:25] <jsgotangco> lol
[03:26] <RichEd> Kamping_Kaiser: read jsgotangco comment in between those
[03:26] <RichEd> while I am fascinated by the whole OLPC drive, and have a lot of respect for what they are trying to achieve, and some of the brilliant ideas, I think they are a way off getting a production device into the hands of school kids.
[03:26] <RichEd> Intel with its muscle and market power may get more results in the short term.
[03:27] <RichEd> *although I must add that I support freedom from market monopolies* :)
[03:27] <jsgotangco> RichEd: dude, I'm sorry to say this, no offense meant but Intel's Classmate PC project is a pretty much a reaction to OLPC along with its partnership with MS
[03:28] <highvoltage> Intel's initial plan was to ship Windows with their low-end education laptops. how boring is that?
[03:28] <ogra> but they dont have that big financial backing
[03:28] <RichEd> jsgotangco: agreed ... but real devices in the hands of people has greater impact than imagination.
[03:28] <ogra> having intel pushing there will gain more than the whole OLPC project i suspect
[03:28] <highvoltage> innovation is innovation. lots of famous scientists didn't have financial backing either, yet we use their technologies every day.
[03:28] <RichEd> highvoltage: they have some amazing concepts ... quite breakthrough thinking
[03:29] <ogra> even though olpc prepared the ground
[03:29] <RichEd> the main thing is that Intel see fit to talk to Ubuntu ... which is a win for freedom inside their muscle space
[03:29] <highvoltage> RichEd: yep
[03:29] <highvoltage> RichEd: agreed
[03:29] <jsgotangco> so we're pretty much being practical now which is understandable
[03:30] <RichEd> ogra: that's how innovation often works, the small guys challenge the thinking, and force the big guys to react. sometimes the end result is still a win for the big guys, but the smaller guys innovation leads to the product improvement
[03:30] <RichEd> such is the way of our capitalist world
[03:30] <RichEd> ...
[03:30] <ogra> right ... and in the end M$ buys them :)
[03:31] <RichEd> somehow I don't see mark shaking on a deal with bill ;)
[03:31] <ogra> heh
[03:31] <RichEd> And a final comment from me is a follow up to the Nigeria conference I attended:
[03:31] <RichEd> we ran an Ubuntu iCafe for delagates ... well received
[03:31] <ogra> nice
[03:31] <RichEd> hey hey mr rodarvus
[03:31] <rodarvus> hi there :)
[03:32] <ogra> rodarvus, !
[03:32] <RichEd> the conference was sponsored by UNDESA to set up a shared parliamentary network for African Countries, based on Open Source
[03:32] <rodarvus> figured I'd pass by and say hello to you guys :)
[03:32] <RichEd> They will be sharing an application pool, and developing jointly.
[03:32] <ogra> good timing :)
[03:32] <rodarvus> (but please don't interrupt the meeting just for me :) )
[03:33] <RichEd> Ubuntu was synonymous with Open Source in all presentations, so we won some good mindset
[03:33] <ogra> cool!
[03:34] <RichEd> And we were told on Monday that the National Assembly of Cameroon has agreed to get ubuntu installed on the 50 new PCs currently being procured.
[03:34] <RichEd> ... and that's all from me folks
[03:35] <ogra> we have some shool admins from cameroon that drop by from time to time in #edubuntu
[03:35] <ogra> (running edubuntu)
[03:35] <RichEd> ogra: well grab them next time ! we need to build on this.
[03:35] <ogra> yeah
[03:36] <ogra> i'll try to think of it next time i run into them
[03:37] <RichEd> highvoltage: expand on that comment ?
[03:38] <RichEd> we've been asked by UNDESA to suggest how we train the trainers (a university across the road from the government buildings) to provide ongoing training and support in french
[03:38] <RichEd> i.e. Train The Trainer in english, and then hand over to the local
[03:38] <sbalneav> Morning RichEd
[03:38] <RichEd> hello scotty
[03:39] <RichEd> just wrapping up actually ... any more items ?
[03:39] <ogra> none from here
[03:39] <RichEd> (ogra: we've managed to cut it down by 20 mins ... next time we aim for 1.5 hours and wean it down to 1)
[03:40] <ogra> yay
[03:40] <ogra> so adjourned ?
[03:41] <RichEd> and twice ...
[03:41] <RichEd> and thrice ...
[03:41] <RichEd> beam us out of here scotty ...
[03:41] <RichEd> thanks all
[03:41] <ogra> thanks
[07:28] <Berardo> Does anyone knows Billy Cina?