[12:16] has anyone constant resizing on some application dialogs? like Save As in gimp or leafpad? [12:16] has anyone noticed* [12:17] on feisty of course [12:18] joejaxx: No. [12:18] I barely use GUI as it is. [12:18] oh ok [12:19] joejaxx: using some crackful window manager? [12:20] heh [12:20] lol [12:22] <_MMA_> ajmitch: http://pastebin.ca/423086 (las=Paul Davis Ardour dev) Ive sent off a email to Free to see if we can get something done. === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-179.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] i wonder why branding was deleted off the launchpad distro pages [12:25] with the switch to launchpad 1.0 [12:25] ScottK: pid files are created however you want to create them [12:25] ScottK: for instance, in python, I use the os module to figure out my pid, and then I will write that pid to /var/run/myprogram.pid [12:26] ScottK: rinse wash and repeat for any language really === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PF-Away [n=martin@cC3ED5AC1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:44] using dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz command in the file for repo. now do i upload teh .gz file or the packages themselves? [12:46] Both. [12:46] ah ok ty === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-008-065.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micahcow@adsl-76-203-173-64.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@63.250.228.211] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PF-Away [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas- [n=xerxas@mey38-2-82-228-181-53.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zen [n=null@unaffiliated/zen] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] Hey, I'm having some trouble recompiling the mail-notification package. Where could I paste a log and maybe someone could point me to a fix if it's trivial? [02:10] !pastebin | zen [02:10] zen: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) [02:10] Should I toss up the entire thing, or just the end parts near the error? [02:12] Here's the end bit. [02:12] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13796/ [02:12] zen: Whatever you think may be relevant to work out what the problem is. [02:12] I put up the last section. [02:13] Seems like there are multiple errors, but I don't know if it's a cascade. [02:13] I make it just by "apt-get source mail-notification", removing the "--disable-ssl" line from debian/rules, and then just "debuild". === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] zen: Have you tried changing --dsiable-sll to --enable-ssl? === plugwash [n=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:17] Other than that, I am no C expert. [02:18] Nope. I'll try it. (Though according to docs, that's the default.) As a side note, the raw source package from the author compiles fine. But the debian/ubuntu packages have some extra integration stuff. [02:21] well, --enable-ssl didn't help, but I just --disable-evolution'd it, and it works now, I think.... === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] okay...totally different error... [02:25] dh_install -pmail-notification-evolution debian/tmp//usr/lib/evolution/2.10/plugins/org-gnome-mail-notification.eplug [02:25] cp: cannot stat `./debian/tmp//usr/lib/evolution/2.10/plugins/org-gnome-mail-notification.eplug': No such file or directory [02:25] Any ideas to fix that? [02:29] zen: You need to go into the debian directory and remove any references to that file that can't be found. Since you disabled evolution stuff, that file is no longer being built. === CarlFK [n=carl@c-24-13-53-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:30] There's a lot of files in there...I should just hunt for it in all the files or is there a likely place to find it? [02:31] (and there's a separate mail-notification-evolution package, so its kinda weird that its stumbling on evolution stuff...) === jml [n=jml@dsl-210-15-197-192-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] is it possible mail-notification-evolution is build with the same deb files as mail-notification ? === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] zen: The dpkg command, particularly dpkg -S for searching for what files belong to what packages, as well as the grep command to find text in files are your friends. === Cyan_Ronin [n=Cyan@213.55.89.124] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Cyan_Ronin [n=Cyan@213.55.89.124] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Spec [n=nwheeler@ubuntu/member/spec] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] Okay, suppose the same deb-source file is being used for two packages...how does debuild know which one to build? Because it looks like it's trying to build mail-notification-evolution instead of just mail-notification (since those dh-install commands are in the rules for mail-notification-evolution). [02:51] !packagingguide | zen [02:51] zen: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports [02:52] zen: The packaging guide will help you work out just how a lot of stuff works in Debian package building. [02:52] Oh....thanks! === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak got good at packaging icedove :( [03:00] gnomefreak: That's a bad thing? [03:01] Fujitsu: ive packaged it over 15 times since friday [03:01] but getting to be fun :) [03:01] Isn't it already in Debian? [03:02] hmm [03:02] yes but thiers wouldnt build for us due to messed up patches [03:02] icedove being packaged as a totally FOSS alternative to thunderbird? [03:02] we fixed 3 patches and used seamonkey source with debian dir. [03:02] i thought mofo got on better with ubuntu [03:03] whats the rationale to include icedove and thunderbird other than for foss bigots? [03:03] oops [03:03] not icedove iceape [03:03] iceape = seamonkey on ice? [03:03] debian refused to agree to mozillas requirements [03:04] icedove == thunderbird with name and icon changes [03:04] jmg: yes [03:05] ok [03:05] now [03:05] i think that iceweasel should alter the about:mozilla page to complain about their trademark policy === gnomefreak loves the icons and start page for the ice* [03:06] gnomefreak: I still think iceweasel shouldve gone with antartica centered the globe. [03:06] i will have testing repo open for ff3 and iceape in the next couple days [03:06] Flannel: agreed :) [03:06] that sounds nicer === jmg proposes adding about:love [03:07] complain about their trademark policy [03:07] er [03:07] about:love - Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra when suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. [03:08] ok be back tomorrow its bed time === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukaswayne9 [n=lukas@c-68-84-69-12.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] Heya gang === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Jucato waves to bddebian and Hobbsee [03:32] heya Jucato! [03:33] Hi Jucato, Hobbsee [03:33] hey bddebian [03:33] Hobbsee: saw my post? :D [03:34] looks good, from glancing at it just then === fowlduck [n=nate@63.250.228.211] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu explodes the fora. [03:43] PHP4 is dead, get over, stupid people. [03:43] *get over it [03:43] lol [03:44] Fujitsu: dont read the forums. it will do you lots of good. === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] I made the mistake of responding to the thread about PHP4's removal a number of weeks ago. === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === caravena [n=caravena@103-162-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === simpg [n=simon@202.130.180.66] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [03:54] Fujitsu: silly [03:54] Hobbsee: Duh. [03:55] heh [03:56] hello Hobbsee [03:57] hi ajmitch [03:57] bddebian: doing some initial packaging on it :) [03:59] joejaxx: ?? You mean kdrive? [03:59] yeah === ajmitch thought that was already packaged [04:00] ajmitch: it is? [04:00] i must have overlooked it then [04:00] because i thought it was not in the repository [04:00] ah, xephyr is (based on kdrive) [04:01] ahh xephyr [04:01] I think kdrive used to be === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] given that there are source package records in launchpad [04:01] yeah [04:01] xserver-kdrive | 6.6.1+cvs20060804-0ubuntu1 | http://apt-proxy edgy/universe Sources [04:02] it was removed from feisty [04:04] correct === jrib [n=jrib@upstream/dev/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:04] it was also removed from debian [04:05] Er, why is dmsetup trying to being installed in buildd builds? [04:05] dependency chain [04:05] ajmitch: so that is probably why then [04:05] And it tries to execute initramfs-tools on installation, and that's not installed, so the world explodes. [04:06] are there any package removal logs? [04:06] e2fsprogs->libblkid1->libdevmapper1.02 [04:06] Fujitsu: wrong [04:06] Fujitsu: it was spotted & already fixed [04:06] ajmitch: Good to hear. [04:06] since it would cause the world to explode, just before a major freeze [04:06] This is true. [04:07] now it only calls initramfs-tools if it exists [04:07] why did kdrive get removed? [04:07] Well, that obviously hasn't propagated to the buildds yet. [04:07] jmg: that is why i asked if there were any package removal logs :P === Fujitsu thinks we should remove school{tool,bell} soon. [04:09] Fujitsu: why? [04:10] They're uninstallable and broken. [04:10] isnt that in main for edubuntu? [04:10] Correct. [04:10] sooo.. fix? [04:10] Not going to happen. [04:10] because? [04:10] That would require a SVN snapshot, which is not meant for release. [04:11] The changes are inconceivably large. [04:11] jmg: because of various things upstream, stuff can't magically stay in main [04:11] is it python2.5/zope related? [04:11] zope3.3 related [04:11] jmg: It wants an older Zope. [04:11] API changes [04:11] w00t [04:11] ajmitch: older zope blocked why? [04:11] Hmm, I think I expire tomorrow.. [04:12] jmg: because it was written with older APIs in mind, which were changed [04:12] bddebian: i'll send your family a card [04:12] since zope 3.x is a moving target still [04:12] ajmitch: i mean, why cant the older zope required by schooltool live on? [04:12] jmg: Sweet thanks [04:13] Haha, I like the new time display system: [04:13] surely edubuntu should have the latest stable schooltool [04:13] Ankur Kotwal 2005-08-30 in 21 hours Approved [04:13] jmg: Which stable schooltool? [04:13] There's no such thing. [04:13] because zope 3.2 can't be installed alongside 3.3 [04:14] so the only option would be to downgrade zope [04:14] "cant" [04:14] bddebian: You have 46 hours remaining, so not toooo bad. You'd better mail The Council. [04:14] Fujitsu: he doesn't need to [04:15] Is there some new automatic renewal law I didn't see? [04:15] no [04:15] it's already been discussed on the MC list [04:20] Fujitsu: jinty did prepare beta schooltool packages that didn't depend on schoolbell [04:20] OK, but do we really want to release them? [04:23] it'd require a bunch of new packagesa [04:23] That's unlikely to happen. [04:25] sad but true [04:26] They should have a release for Feisty+1, so we're only without it for Feisty. [04:26] considering that a big thing on the schooltool frontpage is being part of edubuntu.. [04:27] "new release soon", back in october [04:28] Yes, the lack of progress is rather unfortunate. [04:28] But it should speed up a lot once they've got it deployed in the test schools. === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:32] hello Burgundavia [04:32] hey ajmitch [04:32] how's it going? [04:33] work is driving me around the bend [04:33] Does the SixQuoteEscape sometimes fail to work on Moin, and is there an alternative (for some reason, in one or two contexts it is causing a bold-face toggle, like ''') [04:33] ? [04:33] `` [04:34] do that [04:35] Burgundavia: oh that's ok, work is supposed to do that for you [04:35] Thanks very much; where do I place that (within the CamelCaps "link"?), and is this documented somewhere in wiki.ubuntu.com's help pages (not in HelpOnLinking, AFAICT). [04:35] ajmitch: no, not like this === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:37] (I now have the answer to the first part) [04:40] Jesus, this frickin' Dell XPS is HUGE === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:40] But at least it has sexy neon blue lights :-) === reggaemanu [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-92-131.w81-48.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] <_MMA_> bddebian: LOL A friend just got one. It is a monster. I think his was red. [04:41] Yeah mines chrome with a black front [04:42] I about shit myself when I saw the box. It's bigger than an old Proliant 3000 box [04:42] <_MMA_> :) [04:42] dang, wealthy folk here === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fowlduck [n=nate@63.250.228.211] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:43] <_MMA_> crimsun: pfftt.. You could have one. Pull some of that cash out of the mattress. :) [04:43] bddebian: your definition of sexy is disturbing [04:43] heh [05:01] crimsun: Are you available to help me with my clamsmtp pid file problem? [05:02] ScottK: not really, but what's the gist? [05:02] The gist is that I could find no pid related differences between the dapper and feisty packages, so I took the feisty source package and built it on my dapper box and it made a pid file just fine. [05:03] So, crimsun, who (which package) do I blame or hints on how to figure it out? [05:04] hmm, does the initscript check for the existence of /var/run [and /var/lock if necessary] first? [05:04] and any needed subdirectories under them [05:04] The init script doesn't make the pid file. Clamsmtp does. [05:04] the only other major change I can think of would be upstart [05:05] That's what I was thinking, but I don't know nearly enough to have any idea. [05:05] Since that came in with edgy and it's broken on edgy and feisty, it would fit. === ScottK is officially in WAY over his head at this point. === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:09] The only error that gets logged is 'clamsmtpd: couldn't open pid file: /var/run/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.pid: No such file or directory' [05:10] does invoking clamsmtpd manually create the pid file properly? [05:12] ScottK: right, so what creates the directory /var/run/clamsmtp? [05:13] remember that /var/run gets emptied on boot (tmpfs) === RAOF [n=Chris_@matht464.maths.unsw.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK is in the midst of trying to run it in foreground with debug set to max. I'll report back in a moment. [05:15] well the directory doesn't get made. [05:15] The debug isn't a lot of help: [05:16] clamsmtpd: couldn't open pid file: /var/run/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.pid: No such file or directory [05:16] clamsmtpd: wrote pid file: /var/run/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.pid [05:16] But when I look, neither the PID file nor the directory are there. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:16] I guess I need to hunt through the clamsmtp source and find where it thinks it's making the directory... [05:21] ScottK: the initscript (if any) must make it [05:21] it must be recreated on each bootup [05:23] ajmitch: OK. I believe you, but I don't see where it does it. Is start-stop-daemon --start --pidfile ${PIDFILE} etc... supposed to create the pid file or just look for one? [05:24] no, it won't create it [05:24] --make-pidfile does that [05:24] you create the directory [05:24] That's the only place in the init the pid file gets mentioned on start. === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:26] ScottK: yes, and it's as simple as 1 line to make the directory === ScottK is trying that now. [05:26] [ -e /var/run/clamsmtp ] || mkdir -p /var/run/clamsmtp === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-15.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:35] ajmitch: This is progress. "clamsmtpd: couldn't open pid file: /var/run/clamsmtp/clamsmtpd.pid: Permission denied" Thanks. [05:37] That I knew how to fix.... [05:37] yeah [05:37] you could replace mkdir with install -d -o someuser [05:38] Any clues why this wasn't necessary on Dapper, but is on Edgy/Feisty? I'd like to understand a bit of what's going on here... [05:39] because /var/run wasn't a tmpfs on dapper [05:39] since then initscripts have needed to be changed if they used directories under /var/run [05:41] Thanks. Makes sense. install -d -o works nicely too. Appreciate the assistance. I'll do up a new patch now. [05:42] np === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-motu.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Topic for #ubuntu-motu: Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/TODO | http://ajmitch.net.nz/~ajmitch/missing-fixes-rc.html | HAPPY UNIVERSE HUG DAY === Topic (#ubuntu-motu): set by dholbach at Fri Mar 30 07:32:07 2007 === jml [n=jml@ppp108-61.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:11] OK. The revised patch to fix Bug #102470 and Bug #102391 is uploaded to Bug #102470. If anyone from U-U-S can take a look at it, I'd appreciate it. I'm off to bed. Thanks again ajmitch and crimsun for all the help. [06:11] Malone bug 102470 in clamsmtp "Clamsmtp init script does not create PID file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102470 [06:11] Malone bug 102391 in clamsmtp "clamsmtp: config files uses obsolete scanheader option" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102391 === freeflying [i=root@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.140.96] has joined #ubuntu-motu === statik [n=emurphy@unaffiliated/statik] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] Gnight folks === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-131.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F7799B.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] good morning === asantoni [n=alb@bas7-london14-1177946018.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [07:25] Hi dholbach. [07:26] heya Fujitsu === giskard_ [n=giskard@81-208-74-186.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard__ [n=giskard@213-140-22-74.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zic [n=Zic@Final-Fantasy.FF-IRC.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:33] hey dholbach [07:34] hey ajmitch [07:34] dholbach: want to email the TB about bddebian? [07:34] unless it's already been done [07:34] why me? :) [07:35] because I'm going out soon :) [07:35] ok === ajmitch isn't sure if he's meant to be there in 20 minutes or 50 minutes [07:35] I should really find out.. [07:40] ah good, 50 minutes :) === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === she_said [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-131.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-105-15.auto.rp80.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=vladimir@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === don_j [n=dion@0x50c6344b.odnxx6.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-252-237-96.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] I'm gonna edit my startup-files. Any information/manual about the ubuntu startup files? [08:06] upstart.ubuntu.com [08:08] nice site === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Simon80 [n=Simon80@rn-v1n5b15.uwaterloo.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:31] I've got a mail from launchpad's buildd's, with an chroot problem when building banshee. Is there anything I need to do? Should I contact the buildd admins? [08:37] RAOF: It's a known issue. All the chroots are broken at the moment. [08:37] Ok. Thanks. [08:38] (Is there anywhere where this information is shown?) [08:38] No. [08:38] is any1 else having problems with debootstrap ? === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] hi folks [08:50] ajmitch: around? [08:50] Hey siretart. [08:50] hi RAOF [08:50] Hi siretart. [08:51] hi Fujitsu === ivoks [n=ivoks@32-202.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:55] moins all [08:55] Afternoon imbrandon! [08:56] 2m not afternoon :) [08:56] am* [08:56] Maybe not for you :) === RAOF basks in the glow of people finding out that the new nVidia drivers misuse the "refresh rate" field [09:04] heh heh [09:04] the nightmarish, flickering glow [09:04] Well, no, not really :) === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-21-209.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:15] hello everyone :) === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] <\sh> moins === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-213-189-171-21.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === snowblink [n=snowblin@pacer.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] mroning all [10:49] morning* [10:50] Hi sacater. === sacater waves at Fujitsu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:52] is it hard to generate a Release.gpg for a repo? === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-17-105.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu === snowblink [n=snowblin@pacer.dreamhost.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === freeflying_ [i=root@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AnAnt [n=ant1@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch returns === dholbach_ [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:46] siretart: here now :) === dholbach [n=daniel@i59F72D9C.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === BugMaN [n=BugMaN@nat.cabi.uniroma1.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil [n=alessand@host172-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] hello [12:13] ajmitch: I've noticed some requests for new packages assigned to motu-uvf. I remember that we agreed on that, but I don't remember the acceptance policy for new packages [12:13] ajmitch: could you refresh my memory please? ;) [12:13] it was *meant* to be until beta freeze [12:13] but I don't know if we're sticking to that or not :) [12:13] eg daniel putting in requests for packages :) [12:14] e.g. I'd love to have sauerbraten in feisty (can be synced from debian/contrib) [12:14] but I don't know if that would fit our policy of new packages [12:15] dholbach: opinions? :) [12:15] tollef said he was fine with that [12:16] ajmitch: ^ [12:16] ok [12:16] It's not going to kill anything. [12:18] dholbach: I know you must be super-busy, but can you take a look at ubuntustudio-sounds in REVU? TheMuso has ACKed it once. It needs a 2nd one as it's a new package, no? [12:18] AstralJava: please ask somebody else [12:18] dholbach: Okay thanks! [12:18] AstralJava: either ping in here or ask on ubuntu-motu@ [12:18] sorry [12:18] No prob. :) === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu [12:19] Is there a kind and not-so-busy MOTU in here who could take a look at ubuntustudio-sounds in REVU? We need a second ACK for it, to file an exception bug. It'd mean a lot to UbuntuStudio project if we got our artwork packages into universe for Feisty. Thanks! :) === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d54C689F7.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jekil2 [n=alessand@host172-62-dynamic.56-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] AstralJava: you might want to put the URL for it? [12:58] Okay sorry. :) I'll add those. [01:00] (into here) === PhinnFort [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:02] LongPointyStick: For ubuntustudio-look http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4778 [01:02] For usplash-theme-ubuntustudio http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4782 === AnAnt [n=ant1@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] For ubuntustudio-sounds http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4780 [01:03] how can I request a sync for feisty+1 ? [01:04] You can't. [01:04] ok [01:04] nor feisty ? [01:04] At least, not until after Feisty has been released. === Tonio_ [n=tonio@230.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:05] ok [01:06] StevenK: I have another problem, a package used to work in Edgy, now doesn't work in Feisty [01:06] and I dunno what's the reason [01:06] AnAnt: Which package, and is there a bug? [01:07] StevenK: no, there's isn't a bug, the package is acon [01:07] StevenK: I'm the maintainer btw === jekil2 is now known as jekil [01:07] Can you explain how it doesn't work? [01:07] StevenK: this package works in virtual console, some key combinations don't work anymore (like CTRL+ALT+O) [01:09] Ah nice, 1.5.0-0ubuntu3 == 1.5.0-2 [01:10] no, they are not the same [01:10] For ubuntustudio-icon-theme http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4783 [01:10] oh [01:10] yes [01:10] In terms of changes made, they are. [01:10] I thought you meant ubuntu3=ubuntu2 [01:10] yes, -0ubuntu3 == Debians -2 [01:11] StevenK: can there be a reason why it doesn't work in Feisty ? Can it be kernel related or what ?! [01:11] Ctrl-Alt-O works for me. [01:11] StevenK: what do you get ? [01:12] StevenK: a blue screen ? === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.128.19] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:12] No, I get "Acon is loaded" [01:12] StevenK: yes, it does load, but some key combinations don't work [01:13] Ctrl-Alt-O works, can I have more examples? :-) [01:13] StevenK: a menu screen is supposed to appear when you press CTRL+ALT+_ [01:13] StevenK: a menu screen is supposed to appear when you press CTRL+ALT+O [01:13] StevenK: but what happens is I get some wierd character typed instead [01:14] btw, it is the leftCtrl+leftAlt+O that I am talking about [01:14] Yes. [01:14] However, I have no idea how to debug it. [01:14] StevenK: yes what ? [01:16] AnAnt: Okay, does that key combo work with 1.5.0-2 in Debian unstable? [01:16] StevenK: I didn't try it in Debian [01:17] but it did work in Edgy [01:17] it did work with -0ubuntu3 in Edgy [01:17] I'm curious if it works if I rebuild -0ubuntu3 [01:18] what difference should that make ? [01:19] I'm trying to narrow down where the problem is. [01:19] StevenK: ic === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@146.168-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host216-173-dynamic.61-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bersace [n=bersace@81.185.36.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash__ [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:43] Minor update: ubuntustudio-icon-theme can now be found at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=4784 === jwendell [n=wendell@ubuntu/member/wendell] has joined #ubuntu-motu === illovae [n=illovae@unaffiliated/illovae] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] hello === AnAnt [n=ant1@62.139.130.178] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PF-Away [n=martin@cC3ED5AC1.dhcp.bluecom.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] The revised patch to fix Bug #102470 and Bug #102391 is uploaded to Bug #102470. If anyone from U-U-S can take a look at it, I'd appreciate it. [01:54] Malone bug 102470 in clamsmtp "Clamsmtp init script does not create PID file" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102470 [01:54] Malone bug 102391 in clamsmtp "clamsmtp: config files uses obsolete scanheader option" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102391 === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:57] nice. If someone else doesn't process them first, I'll get to them in 90 minutes after lecture. [01:59] !seen LaserJock [01:59] Sorry, I don't know anything about seen laserjock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [01:59] crimsun: Thanks. I'll let you know if they're still waiting for someone. [01:59] crimsun: I'll still be around. Ging to do a late nighter. === ogra_ [n=ogra@p548AD684.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@unaffiliated/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:05] Hi all [02:05] Hi DarkSun88 :) [02:05] Hi BugMaN === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:07] Heya Hobbsee! === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] Hey RAOF. [02:08] Hey TheMuso. [02:08] I'm just marvelling at the changelog for compiz -1ubuntu13 [02:09] gandalfn appears to be trying to import 0.4.0 git patch by patch :( [02:09] hey TheMuso! [02:09] Hey Hobbsee === RAOF checks whether they bumped the ABI version on compiz. Else it's time for another compiz-extra rebuild :( [02:10] hi RAOF [02:13] Woah, cool. That didn't break ABI! === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:15] RAOF: hehe I was making that comment in another channel yesterday :D [02:15] looked like a comical case of circumventing UVF :) [02:16] :S === StevenK kicks postfix === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan waves === ajmitch sleeps [02:17] I've figured out how to do everything I want except domain rewriting [02:18] night ajmitch [02:18] Night ajmitch. [02:19] goodnight ajmitch === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:21] wow [02:21] I bought a logitech mx610 mouse today [02:21] it has a lot of useless buttons === lotusleaf [n=mette@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:22] one has an picture of an envelope on it - I push the button, and evolution loads [02:22] I am impressed [02:25] I could never use those, I accidentally push just the sole extra scroll button. :) [02:28] I've never had any extra button work before [02:28] I was just impressed that on does work === deep [n=deep@c-922a71d5.017-19-626c671.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] now to remap them to the things I use most === lotusleaf [n=mette@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has left #ubuntu-motu ["trombone"] === DarkSun88 [n=Ma@unaffiliated/darksun88] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thekorn [n=thekorn@a89-182-26-22.net-htp.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === esaym [n=user@cpe-72-183-202-162.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:58] good