[12:48] yay uploading packages to repo ;) [12:49] night ill give details tomorrow sometime === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:31] asac: ping === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === jmillikin [n=jmilliki@cpe-66-75-223-197.bak.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [05:28] I'm hoping somebody in here can help. Firefox's GtkMozEmbed currently has a bug (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233371), which causes tooltips to run off the edge of the screen in Epiphany (https://launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/37507, http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129456) [05:28] Gnome bug 129456 in Interface "Tooltip not shown completely" [Normal,Resolved: notgnome] [05:28] There is a patch in the Mozilla bug. However, GtkMozEmbed trunk is a complete mess at the moment, and chances of the patch getting into upstream sources are low. I was hoping the patch could be integrated into the Ubuntu Firefox package. [05:39] jmillikin: perhaps you want to mail the list [05:40] mailto:ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com === ..[topic/#ubuntu-mozillateam:Admiral_Chicago] : Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/trunk | Mailing List : ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com [05:43] ok im going to bed again/still/never got there :( the testing repo will be open in morning i have iceape and ff3 in it please use the iceape if you want to test anything. I have to check for updates to ff3 maybe ill check tomorrow. night all [05:43] gnomefreak: paradiso alpha 2? [05:44] i forget what version we are on in terms of testing [05:44] 20070328 was last build i got [05:44] okay, maybe i'll head over to mozdev and see what they are doing [05:45] bzr is more of a date than version but either way its 2.99+2 so i think that is alpha 2 [05:45] Admiral_Chicago: we have bzr branch with it in there [05:46] cool, i'll have to check it, maybe look to make a branch of my own to play with bzr [05:47] tomorrow i will try merge to see if anything is new and rebuild as needed and upload. night guys [05:49] Admiral_Chicago: should I mail ubuntu-mozillateam, or ubuntu-mozillateam-bugs? [05:49] jmillikin: team [05:49] check the topic, its in there [05:50] Yeah, but after you updated the topic I did a quick scan through lists.ubuntu.com and noticed -bugs, so I wanted to make sure the mail would go to the correct list. [05:51] bugs is where we get all Mozilla bugs from LP sent to the team === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-mozillateam.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === Topic for #ubuntu-mozillateam: Home of Ubuntu Mozilla Team - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam | Bug Triagers please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/States & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Tags | Firefox trunk package source : https://code.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/trunk | Mailing List : ubuntu-mozillateam@lists.ubuntu.com === Topic (#ubuntu-mozillateam): set by Admiral_Chicago at Wed Apr 4 05:41:41 2007 [06:02] (jmillikin/#ubuntu-mozillateam) OK, sent. I really hope this can work its way in before Feisty's release [06:03] thats a tall order, we'll see when the main man is awake [06:04] Understood, it's a wish [06:05] well its not just that, but really because our repositories are pretty strict about updates. === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@ubuntu/member/admiral-chicago] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === omgponiezlol [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:56] poningru: ? [10:34] asac: its up im gonna grab packages from it in a bit to make sure works. [10:38] yeah [10:38] did you create a Release file as well? [10:38] no :( [10:38] i am just wondering, because I think that thats what I am missing (so you don't automatically et upgrades) [10:39] remember? [10:39] instructions didnt tell me to just packages.gz and sources.gz [10:40] yes [10:40] you have sources? [10:40] yes [10:40] i can try in feisty32 chroot [10:41] deb http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing ./ [10:41] deb-src http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing ./ [10:41] im not sure how to set up my key for it yet either but its up and working :) im grabbing iceape atm [10:42] im thinking of making it gnomefreak@youmortals.com/feisty/mozilla-testing ./ [10:42] cool ... yeah, but remember that you didn't get any auto-upgrades from mt-feisty? same is here i guess [10:43] gnomefreak@youmortals.com? [10:43] yep i remember and personally that is fine for the time being [10:43] yeah ... if you find out how to create Release.gpg let me know :) [10:43] asac: thats the server [10:43] i will find out :) [10:43] why @ ? [10:44] and ill let you know [10:44] ty [10:44] no @ sorry its a . [10:45] k pulling firefox-trunk for now :) [10:45] gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing atm but im thinking of adding feisty in there [10:45] :) [10:45] yes feisty is good ... to get a namespace [10:45] asac: i have to try merge to see if ther eis a later build [10:45] someone want to look at Bug #https://launchpad.net/bugs/102643 [10:45] Malone bug 102643 in epiphany-browser "[apport] epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Needs info] [10:45] ... now iceape [10:45] :) [10:45] err https://launchpad.net/bugs/102643 [10:45] sure [10:45] Daniel Holbach was asking about it earlier in -bugs [10:46] as long as it works i can set it up with feisty and post it somewhere. [10:46] gnomefreak: can you try to retrace bug 102643 ... or wait for hjmf ? [10:46] Malone bug 102643 in epiphany-browser "[apport] epiphany crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102643 [10:47] I need to fix this odd error with my Fx set up. Seems i'm reporting that I run 2.0 in About in Fx menu [10:47] i can try in a few please assign it to me [10:47] Admiral_Chicago: you run 2.0, don't you? [10:47] any particular reason you're awake john? [10:48] or you mean 2.0 vs 2.0.0.3 ? [10:48] asac: no 2.0.0.3 after my update. but I went to Help >> About Firefox and it report 2.0, shouldn't that read 2.0.0.3 [10:48] Admiral_Chicago: cause im stupid :( fell asleep after 1am and its 4:48am :( [10:49] yea, i stayed up all last night coding so I slept all day... [10:49] gnomefreak: firefox-trunk is still from 20070328 [10:49] lame :) [10:49] yes i havent updated it yet [10:49] is there one after 20070328? [10:50] yes ... its simple [10:50] its a simple fix [10:50] you just change the date in changelog [10:50] then get the neworig [10:50] -> up to date [10:50] it takes the latest from cvs [10:50] is my version supposed to be 2006101022 [10:50] neworig than rebuild? [10:50] and since there are usually lots of checkins ... [10:50] gnomefreak: yeah ... remove the currently embedded tarball manually first [10:50] Installed: 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu1 [10:51] then change changelog [10:51] e.g. version contains date ... yo see? [10:51] yeah [10:51] change date to newest and rebuild new orig and than build as normal? [10:52] Admiral_Chicago: i don't know ... the date looks a bit wierd [10:52] gnomefreak: yes [10:52] if change date in version <- important [10:52] Admiral_Chicago: date == too many numbers and too earl a version [10:52] you can change date of changelog entry as well ... but that doesn't influence what is checked out [10:53] asac: is that related to the changelog bug? [10:53] ok i asked about the release.gpg [10:53] Admiral_Chicago: which changelog bug? [10:53] now i go build. doesnt bzr merge get rid of tar for me than all i have to do is neworig and build? [10:53] there was a bug that the changelog had the wrong date...wait I'm being slow, ignore me :) [10:54] gnomefreak: no bzr merge does not get rid [10:54] it did once [10:54] because i removed it from archive [10:54] now its in your personal copy and bzr will not touch [10:54] just remove everything that is in main dir [10:54] except debian directory [10:54] Admiral_Chicago: ah yes [10:54] could be [10:55] but only on edgy, right? [10:55] gonna work on those clue files... [10:55] Admiral_Chicago: great ... most wanted ;) [10:55] at least pull up the relevant master guys [10:55] if you want input, let me know [10:56] maybe try to detect dupes for string 'munmap()' [10:56] tjhere are a bunch which I tagged likely-dup [10:56] so probably good to test [10:56] sure, I'll see where I can start looking. [10:56] sttarting with bzr merge than will make changes needed (so dont go to lunhc just yet :) [10:56] sure [10:57] still here [10:57] seems i have newest version [10:57] pretty early [10:57] @time berlin [10:57] Current time in Europe/Berlin: April 04 2007, 10:57:10 - Next meeting: Edubuntu in 3 hours 2 minutes [10:57] yes? [10:57] how is tarball called? [10:57] gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ bzr merge [10:57] Merging from remembered location http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/trunk/ [10:57] Nothing to do. [10:57] yes ... packaging has not changed [10:57] browser-snapshot-20070328.tar.bz2 [10:57] yes remove that [10:58] change changelog (first line) [10:58] and neworig [10:58] the package is pretty fine for now ... not much changes on ubuntu side [10:58] just rm browser... [10:58] yes [10:58] rm the config-list [10:58] or however its called as well [10:58] ok both gone [10:58] what is your first line in changelog? [10:59] still has version ...20070328... something? [10:59] change that to ...20070404... [10:59] changed [10:59] then neworig brings great new tarball for you [11:00] whats the full command for neworig? [11:01] is it fakeroot ./debian/rules neworig? [11:02] ./debian/rules neworig [11:02] ha i still had it :) [11:02] i dont htink run is part of command [11:04] looks like its running :) [11:04] cool [11:04] gnomefreak: now that you are the trunk maintainer :) [11:04] you might want to follow development on trunk [11:04] :) [11:04] :) [11:04] http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsqueryform.cgi [11:04] i will try. [11:04] there you can see checkins [11:04] e.g. [11:04] like [11:05] hmm, looking at these Master Reports. [11:05] some have 100+ dups [11:05] ...thats a lot [11:05] http://bonsai.mozilla.org/cvsquery.cgi?treeid=default&module=all&branch=HEAD&branchtype=match&dir=&file=&filetype=match&who=&whotype=match&sortby=Date&hours=2&date=month&mindate=&maxdate=&cvsroot=%2Fcvsroot [11:05] yeah [11:05] Admiral_Chicago: gtk_style_realize [11:05] is the heaviest bug in launchpad [11:05] ... at least i bet [11:05] has 140 dupes [11:05] and 10 more marked as likely-dup are waiting for someone to associate [11:06] yes. 141 irrc. i'm going to use Bug #71702 so I get results...faster that is [11:06] Malone bug 71702 in firefox "MASTER Firefox Crash [@js_FinalizeStringRT] [@js_atom_uninterner] " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71702 [11:06] yes ... there should be dupes as well [11:06] so try that [11:07] since bughelper will dump out the dups (in my test case) which I will then follow, I don't want to open that many [11:07] that way I know bughelper is A. looking at the retraces and B. finding duplicates, [11:10] yep ... good way to go [11:10] asac: i'm looking at that bug I linked above, why is it described "[@js_FinalizeStringRT] [@js_atom_uninterner] " [11:11] have you tried the simple way (e.g. just command line) ? [11:11] Admiral_Chicago: dunno ... sometimes one stack element is not enough [11:11] so i add two :) [11:11] so both cause the crash? [11:11] anyway, any bug that contains any of those is suspect to be a dupe ... or variant [11:11] Admiral_Chicago: look at backtrace [11:12] call goes through function js_atom_uninterner into js_FinalizeStringRT, where it crashes [11:12] i am, just not very good with retraces. what am I looking for specifically [11:12] let me see... [11:12] just take a look [11:12] you will see [11:12] call goes bottom up [11:12] ah the no locals part [11:12] e.g. what is further below calls what is further up [11:13] what trace are you looking at? [11:13] i understand [11:13] ok [11:13] :) [11:13] i did not add "free()" to the summary [11:14] as this is not in mozilla code [11:14] and free is definitly not buggy :) [11:15] what is this page telling me? just the changes made? and is the "file" collum the patch? [11:16] yes ...checkins done to mozilla tree [11:16] you can modify the query in first url [11:16] i selected "changes for last month" for the long url [11:16] file coloum names the file modified in the checkin [11:16] comment names what got checked in [11:17] s/comment/Description/ [11:17] not all files affect firefox-trunk [11:17] e.g. mozilla/mailnews/ ... affects tbird and seamonkey only [11:18] if you read that daily, you will get used to :) [11:18] just kidding ... is good to see if its worth to build a new trunk preview [11:18] of course ... dailies are fine as well :) [11:19] i see a bunch with todays date. what does that mean i need to do grab the new cvs? [11:19] you do it by neworig [11:20] e.g. all that has been checked in till start of 4th april you do now [11:20] it just shows you that there have been changes tomorrow ... which you would grab by neworig if you use 20070405 as date [11:21] makes sense? [11:21] oh ok so thats really all i need to do is add changes to changelog and than neworig and build? [11:21] so whatever date i use in changelog wil be the changes it makes [11:22] this means you will still keep the bzr uptodate or that doesnt matter much? [11:22] ... date encoded in version is what matters, but yes [11:22] asac: dude re: seamonkey [11:22] from time to time i will update bzr [11:22] I think we should do logo [11:22] i will update bzr when I make changes to debian/ directory [11:23] e.g. add new patches ... improve packaging [11:23] asac: this page will tell me when you updated it for most part? [11:23] poningru: i am not sure what you mean? [11:23] asac: you are taking the same policy on it as firefox [11:23] gnomefreak: bonsai page is about upstream development [11:23] but the logo and everything is trilicensed [11:24] gnomefreak: you will see new things coming on bzr merge if i do improvement to the ubuntu specifics [11:24] everything in the codebase is trilicensed [11:24] asac: he wants seamonkey used with official branding [11:24] err right [11:24] ah ok [11:25] poningru: simple: if we have a package we can provide that [11:25] oh... ok [11:25] but since merging from debian is nice :) [11:25] ... [11:25] oh... [11:25] well we can just add the branding [11:25] I dont understand why debian doesnt want to use the logo though === gnomefreak doesnt see a problem with iceape. [11:26] its not safe to use anything mozilla provides :) [11:26] yeah ... i would like to use iceape [11:26] i mean we are kind of split here [11:26] on the one hand we want good upstream relationship with mozilla [11:26] mozilla changes stuff too often to keep up [11:26] on the other hand we want to have good upstream relationship with debian [11:26] asac: we have that with ff and tb [11:27] iceape can be a good way to coorporate with debian imo [11:27] so we keep the balance [11:27] right [11:27] why dont we talk to debian legal [11:27] asac: but we do have good upstream with debian since 98% of packages are merged from there to begin with [11:27] I'll go talk to debian legal [11:27] poningru: because it has been my decision with other mozilla maintainers in debian [11:27] to use iceape as well [11:27] buuh... [11:27] but why? === gnomefreak wants to know what differnece it makes [11:28] same package new branding [11:28] I mean I would like debian to use the branding too... [11:28] gnomefreak: i mean upstream relationship for mozilla packages [11:28] we will have to work a lot with debian [11:28] on mozillas [11:29] asac: yeah but deian's changes IMHO are easier to add [11:29] and safer for most part [11:29] yeah ... its just too dangerous for debian after the experience we had [11:29] the point is that seamonkey trademark will be owned by mozilla foundation [11:29] which firefox and thunderbird have been before [11:29] now they burned relationship by revoking agreement we previously had [11:30] so debian dropped all === gnomefreak leaves that too you. just tell me if you want iceape its built as iceape seamonkey it will build as seamonkey (i perfer iceape) its prettier [11:30] ... [11:30] poningru: you understand? [11:30] no I dont [11:30] we had an agreement [11:30] using iceape prevents us from having to check all patches with mofo? [11:30] e.g. we as in debian [11:30] a) why is debian not using the seamonkey? [11:30] asac: I know the back story [11:31] because they cannot trust mozilla foundation [11:31] burnt their bridges when they declined the agreement [11:31] what does trusting mofo have anything to do with this? [11:31] seamonkey is a project of the seamonkey council [11:31] not when they declined (which would be fine) ... they revoked it [11:31] seperate from mofo [11:31] poningru: as i said [11:31] i discussed this with seamonkey council === gnomefreak leaves this in your hands i have to figure out that other issue [11:31] 0.0 [11:31] seamonkey trademark will be managed by mofo [11:32] right [11:32] but the copyright is completely trilicensed [11:32] so even if council does not like it ... when seamonkey becomes really popular [11:32] mofo might go and revoke it [11:32] poningru: copyright != trademark law [11:32] right [11:32] it doesn't matter [11:32] but we all do that [11:32] i.e ubuntu, debian etc. [11:32] as in trademark [11:32] if they have trademark they can always force debian to "do this" or "do that" ... or drop branding in everything you distribute [11:32] so what you are saying because of the history? [11:33] poningru: mainly yes. [11:33] :( [11:33] talk to other mozilla maintainers at debian [11:33] we had a long debate with them === poningru shakes head === gnomefreak makes mental note #12 [11:34] ... and in fact ... all artworks in debian are more beauty than mozilla artwork imo :) [11:34] firefox one might disagree [11:34] for the others ... not imo :) [11:35] poningru: as i said [11:35] i would sponsor seamonkey package [11:35] same as i will sponsor iceape [11:36] i would not have a problem to have both [11:36] yeah I guess I see that [11:36] but i just think that iceape will be here sooner :) [11:36] cool [11:36] k [11:37] i hope that almost all libs that are shared between all those iceapps and fire/thunder apps [11:37] will be in its own package [11:37] so adding things like seamonkey or even iceweasel should not be so heavyweight anymore [11:37] hehe yeah [11:38] e.g. use system-xul system-nspr system-nss [11:38] ++ [11:38] would love to see that happening [11:38] hehe I should probably look into that more [11:38] help is appreciated ... we have nspr and nss packages in debian svn ... which we will use in ubuntu [11:38] further there is xulrunner already [11:39] and afaik, trunk already allows you to use system-xul [11:39] :) [11:39] right [11:39] and if not ... it is us to push this, as benjamin might not have the time to do it properly for ffox 3 === Admiral_Chicago crosses fingers [11:43] hopefully this clue file commits to bzr, got it written out [11:44] do you commit to remote repo ? [11:44] i guess to test local repo should be available two? [11:45] asac: is that at me? [11:50] don't know :) [11:50] Admiral_Chicago: i have no idea about this bughelper thing :) ... so just go ahead ;) [11:51] found out how to make it just wish it worked [11:51] ah well I commited my first clue file, hopefully it works and I can push an email today [11:51] asac: bug helper is awesome though...very very useful [11:52] Admiral_Chicago: once you figure it out will you help us use it ;) [11:52] Admiral_Chicago: to bugquad? [11:52] ^^^ committed? [11:52] gnomefreak: of course. [11:52] asac: to the Bzr branch [11:52] ty [11:52] to which bzr branch :9 [11:53] i mean ... you can have a local bzr branch or a remote one ... one in ~bugsquad on launchpad and so on :) [11:53] gnomefreak: can you please kick some people from #kubuntu [11:53] wait, Hobbsee is on it [11:54] ok [11:54] mt-confirm processing gave me about 1000 karma points yesterday :) [11:54] ... amazing [11:54] i went down in the last week even though my bug work went way up [11:54] now i know why i got my mind twisted [11:54] ...i hate how LP redid karma [11:55] Admiral_Chicago: yeah ... an uphill race [11:55] :) [11:58] Admiral_Chicago: be assured, its all relative :) ... others get pulled down as well :) [11:59] yea, i stopped caring about Karma, mostly because I have more things to focus on...like bug reports. [11:59] :) [11:59] yeah :) ... karma is not what really matters [12:00] and how you have bughelper, which is even more important than individual bug reports :) [12:02] asac: "apt-ftparchive release ." should generate a release file than gpg -o Release.gpg -abs Release should make the release.gpg but its not working :( [12:02] you can replace . with a dir. [12:02] asac: I'll bug you about this later [12:03] but I guess we should change the name of bugzilla too [12:04] the name of bugzilla? [12:04] is it in the archive? [12:05] gnomefreak: have you tried? [12:05] yeah [12:05] yes [12:05] gnomefreak: afaik this only works on big archive layout [12:05] fails to make file and fails to sign it since it cant make it [12:05] im looking at something now [12:06] gnomefreak: i never found how to do it properly for the minimalistic archive [12:11] hjmf: have fun with all the likely-dup tagged :) [12:14] i have to config apt-ftparchive. i asked seveas if there is an auto way. because apt-ftparchive -c doesnt work [12:22] yes [12:22] maybe manually? [12:22] not sure im googling still [12:22] w00t! got the clue file [12:23] i'll mess with it more tomorrow, going to bed now... [12:23] hehe @now Chicago [12:23] ... 5.23 am either way. [12:24] oh [12:24] night [12:24] asac: noticed in a couple of reports :) [12:25] I'll look at it when I finish feisty tb retraces (much fun too) :P === mrigns [n=mrigns@AC9EBC19.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:26] there is a link now in wiki [12:26] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bugs?field.tag=likely-dup [12:26] k [12:27] good bunch to get some karma :) ... if noone comes around, then I will associate [12:28] first tb MASTER: bug 89600 [12:28] Malone bug 89600 in mozilla-thunderbird "MASTER mozilla-thunderbird-bin crashed [@js_NewString] " [Medium,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/89600 [12:28] :) [12:29] cool [12:29]