[12:13] <Tonio_> c6802d3d74a9cc0ec38bf5a98591229c  adept_2.1.2ubuntu24.tar.gz
[12:14] <Tonio_> manchicken: both binary and source are sync for me
[12:14] <manchicken> And the icon column is in the results for you?
[12:14] <Tonio_> manchicken: just purge any adept package, clean the apt cache and reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[12:14] <manchicken> I have the same md5sum as what you have.
[12:14] <Tonio_> manchicken: probably a local problem while apt downloaded the package
[12:15] <Tonio_> result ?
[12:15] <nixternal> Microsoft fixed the animated cursor exploit
[12:15] <nixternal> oh wait,t hey didn't
[12:15] <nixternal> they not only didn't fix it, but they broke WinXP SP2 and Realtek users
[12:15] <Tonio_> manchicken: hum, it is just as before, showing the kubuntu logo
[12:15] <manchicken> c6802d3d74a9cc0ec38bf5a98591229c  adept_2.1.2ubuntu24.tar.gz
[12:15] <nixternal> argh
[12:15] <nixternal> /go #ubuntu-chicago
[12:15] <Tonio_> manchicken: the package didn't install properly on your computer
[12:15] <nixternal> argh again
[12:15] <Tonio_> manchicken: just purge the package and reinstall
[12:15] <Tonio_> manchicken: and clean apt-cache
[12:16] <manchicken> If your source package has the same md5sum as mine, doesn't that mean that I have the right file?
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[12:20] <Riddell> mhb: no surveys currently, mostly we have enough things to do without finding more things to do
[12:20] <Riddell> it's a good idea but
[12:20] <Riddell> Tonio_: ok, I'll put you down to lead the blue
[12:20] <Riddell> t
[12:20] <Riddell> [o-
[12:22] <nixternal> what was that?
[12:22] <nixternal> oh, I started the RC page btw, so are we expecting many changes besides fixes?
[12:23] <Tonio_> Riddell: yep, I have plenty of things on that point :)
[12:23] <Tonio_> manchicken: yes, seems too...
[12:23] <Tonio_> manchicken: is your pbuilder up to date ?
[12:24] <Tonio_> there where lots of issues recently.... maybe that corrupted your build........
[12:24] <Tonio_> doesn't make sense, but there is no logic explanation so......
[12:26] <manchicken> Tonio_: Do you have time to compile your source package and tell me whether or not it's there?
[12:26] <manchicken> I'm looking in the code that came from that tarball, and the code for the supported indicator is just not there.
[12:26] <manchicken> It's not that it's broken, it's just not there.
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[12:30] <Tonio_> manchicken: yup
[12:30] <Tonio_> manchicken: can that wait for tomorrow ?
[12:30] <Tonio_> manchicken: I'm really tired :)
[12:30] <Tonio_> and adept is a bit long to build hehe :)
[12:30] <Tonio_> manchicken: promiss to work on that tomorrow morning
[12:37] <manchicken> It could wait :)
[12:37] <manchicken> I'm just irritated because I can't find a branch to work on.
[12:37] <manchicken> I just found that problem in persuit of such a codebase.
[12:37] <manchicken> Everything seems to be out of date or incorrect.
[12:37] <manchicken> JR's adept branch seems to be out of date as well.
[12:42] <Tonio_> manchicken: the packages currently available have been build with the current sources....... that's why I'm lost
[12:43] <Tonio_> manchicken: did you try a purge and resintall ?
[12:43] <Tonio_> manchicken: did you compare the content of your pbuilder deb files and the apt-get cache debs ?
[12:43] <Tonio_> maybe there is a difference, but I don't see why that would be so different, doesn't make sense
[12:44] <Tonio_> btw I go to bed.... I'll test that as soon as I wake up tomorrow
[12:55] <giangy> manchicken: if you drive me into the source (I don't know what package is and what's the file edited) I can see if the code for the supported indicator is there
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[12:56] <manchicken> giangy: If you just `apt-get source adept` you'd get the code.
[12:58] <giangy> gh, next step?
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[01:14] <manchicken> cd adept* && ./configure --enable-adept --enable-debug=full && make && ./adept/manager/adept_manager
[01:14] <manchicken> That should do it.
[01:14] <manchicken> I'm gonna go for a bit.
[01:14] <manchicken> Check y'all later.
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[01:54] <orestes> Sorry... I'd like to know where do the KDE translations in rosetta come from. I supposed they came from "stable" branch of KDE translation project, but I've seen an outdated version of digiKam catalan translation (with fuzzy and untranslated strings) entering rosetta today. Catalan digiKam translation is at 100% in SVN stable branch...
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[02:18] <manchicken> Is there a way to manage samba from systemsettings?
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[09:36] <Tonio_> hi the people :)
[09:36] <kwwii> hi Tonio_
[09:37] <Tonio_> how are you kwwii ?
[09:37] <kwwii> Tonio_: good and yourself?
[09:37] <Tonio_> fine ;)
[09:37] <kwwii> a bit tired ;-)
[09:38] <kwwii> but tomorrow is a holiday!
[09:38] <Tonio_> impatient to have my next interview for a job next wednesday
[09:38] <kwwii> I can imagine
[09:38] <Tonio_> could be very interesting for me.... and for kubuntu :)
[09:39] <kwwii> really? sounds interesting!
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[09:39] <Tonio_> kwwii: I prefer not to speek about that at the moment, we will see if something happens
[09:39] <kwwii> Tonio_: cool :-)
[09:42] <asyd> ola
[09:50] <Tonio_> hey asyd :)
[09:51] <Tonio_> okay time for me to improve medibuntu a bit....
[09:51] <Tonio_> I'll send them kaffeine and k3b with mp3 and dvd extract support...
[09:51] <giangy> re
[09:52] <giangy> hi guys.
[10:04] <marseillais> Tonio_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/102895
[10:04] <ubotu> Malone bug 102895 in medibuntu "k3b with DVD ripping support" [Wishlist,In progress] 
[10:04] <marseillais> normaly it's done
[10:04] <Tonio_> marseillais: I know I'm gonna do that today
[10:11] <fdoving> hmm.. how can one select what font is used for the extra small fonts in for example the digikam tooltip and krita sidebar?
[10:29] <giangy> Tonio_: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143832
[10:29] <ubotu> KDE bug 143832 in general "Kontact crashes when I try to launch it" [Crash,Unconfirmed] 
[10:30] <giangy> I report it upstream
[10:30] <Tonio_> giangy: hum....... strange
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[10:30] <Tonio_> giangy: better report upstream on that point yes
[10:32] <Lure> Tonio_: can you upload bug 90138
[10:32] <ubotu> Malone bug 90138 in knetworkmanager "knetworkmanager does not save password for WPA enterprise" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/90138
[10:33] <Lure> Tonio_: debdiff is attached
[10:33] <Tonio_> Lure: isn't that the version I uploaded yesterday ?
[10:34] <Lure> Tonio_: you did? The one I got with apt-get source has old version...
[10:34] <Tonio_> hum no right, they fixed it
[10:34] <Tonio_> Lure: I was waiting for feedback to do the same as you ;)
[10:34] <Tonio_> uploading, thanks luka
[10:36] <Lure> Tonio_: re k3b for medibuntu> it needs libavformat-dev as this is part of ffmpeg build depends
[10:36] <Lure> Tonio_: at least avfromat and avcodec has made configure check happy for ffmpeg
[10:36] <Tonio_> Lure: yes
[10:37] <Tonio_> Lure: according to you does it need ffmpeg binary dep ?
[10:37] <Tonio_> Lure: I don't think so
[10:37] <Tonio_> Lure: uploaded, you can close the bug
[10:37] <Lure> Tonio_: it does not look like
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[10:41] <giangy> Maintainer: Kubuntu Members
[10:41] <giangy> Kubuntu packages are available both for feisty, dapper and edgy. k3b's latest binary packages are available in the 'feisty' branch. Use the official package browser for more informations.
[10:41] <giangy> seems okay? http://k3b.plainblack.com/download
[10:41] <giangy> I want to update the notice about kubuntu
[10:42] <giangy> Lure, Tonio_: is it correct, isn't it?
[10:43] <Tonio_> giangy: it is
[10:43] <Lure> giangy: correct + we will have full version soon in medibuntu
[10:44] <Tonio_> Lure: little question, shouldn't k3b in medibuntu depend on dvd+rw-tools instead of just recommanding it ?
[10:44] <giangy> well, I'll add the medibuntu version ASAP when the new version will be released
[10:44] <Tonio_> it that's recommended, that's probably usefull for special dvd actions
[10:45] <Lure> Tonio_: it might, but some people might not have DVD-RW, so they do not need it
[10:45] <Tonio_> hum true....
[10:45] <Tonio_> let's stay with recommends then
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[11:32] <giangy> apachelogger: hi :)
[11:32] <apachelogger> ahoy giangy
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[01:26] <mhb> nixternal: do you really wonder how come the translations aren't ready yet? .o)
[01:27] <mhb> nixternal: also, the welcome page looks rather crude (compared to Konqueror's, for example), can we fix that in the future?
[01:28] <Riddell> mhb: how come the translations aren't ready yet?
[01:28] <Riddell> which welcome page?
[01:31] <mhb> Riddell: translations of kubuntu-docs
[01:31] <mhb> Riddell: ready as in finished, sorry for confusions
[01:32] <mhb> Riddell: Firefox welcome page - both was mentioned in a mail nixternal sent to ubuntu-translators, so I thought he understands
[01:39] <Riddell> ah, was wondering what the context was
[01:39] <Riddell> mhb: do you know if the adept change fixed your translation issues there?
[01:41] <mhb> Riddell: I'm upgrading right now, I'll tell you in a jiffy
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[02:28] <nixternal> mhb: I know translations aren't ready because they opened late, however ubuntu-doc translation are more than 75% complete already
[02:28] <nixternal> the firefox-startpage is the same one for each project now.
[02:28] <nixternal> just tweaked to look like Kubuntu
[02:29] <vprints> i got some konqueror translations lost overnight
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[02:45] <mhb> nixternal: has there been an update recently? all I see is text with some fonts changed
[02:48] <nixternal> well the kindex.html is crude of course w/o the images and the css file
[02:48] <mhb> nixternal: will there be some images?
[02:49] <nixternal> oh ya, they are already there. when the package is built the index file will call the css file for them
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[02:59] <mhb> nixternal: ad translations: there are few people who prefer to translate kubuntu-docs over ubuntu-docs in my team
[03:00] <mhb> nixternal: and I believe the situation in other teams is similar - everyone is trying to finish the ubuntu-docs in time, neglecting other stuff
[03:07] <nixternal> yup
[03:14] <mhb> nixternal: just explaining the current state of things .o)
[03:15] <mhb> nixternal: rewriting large parts of documentation brings worse translations, that is logical
[03:15] <nixternal> that it does
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[03:23] <manchicken> Riddell: I have my travel itinerary.
[03:23] <manchicken> It's a long one, too.
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[03:24] <Hobbsee> manchicken: oh?
[03:25] <Riddell> manchicken: where do you go through?
[03:25] <manchicken> HOBBSEE!  Howdy :)
[03:25] <manchicken> Champaign,IL->Chicago,IL->Madrid,Esp->Sevilla,Esp
[03:26] <manchicken> Sevilla,Esp->Madrid,Esp->Miama,FL->Chicago,IL->Champaign,IL
[03:26] <Hobbsee> manchicken: :)
[03:26] <manchicken> The flight home is going to be several hours longer.
[03:26] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee, hi manchicken
[03:26] <Hobbsee> hiya Jucato
[03:26] <manchicken> Jucato: Howdy
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[03:26] <Riddell> the flight to europe is always the worst for sleeping patterns
[03:26] <manchicken> Riddell: But you would be proud.  I picked the cheaper one ;)
[03:26] <Jucato> hm.. anyone know about the "issue" with Adept Updater with the last updates today?
[03:27] <manchicken> Only about GBP670
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[03:28] <Jucato> Adept Updater displays a message in its main window that a new version of Kubuntu is available and to click on Next.
[03:29] <manchicken> Riddell: Have you seen the control panel in Vista?
[03:29] <Riddell> manchicken: briefly
[03:29] <Hobbsee> that's...cheap
[03:29] <Jucato> any screenshots? :D
[03:29] <manchicken> We should use that idea.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> manchicken: no, what is it?
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[03:30] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you mean the misfortune
[03:30] <manchicken> Like, if you have "Control Panel => Display Settings", if you click on the "=>" icon (just a generic arrow to the right) it drops down with other possibilities.
[03:30] <Jucato> oh yeah :)
[03:30] <manchicken> Jucato: It is a misfortune.  I am compelled to run it for testing purposes for work.
[03:30] <Hobbsee> manchicken: that's already in kde, you know...
[03:31] <Hobbsee> (from the kmenu)
[03:31] <Jucato> I will be compelled to use XP for the next couple of days just for a "sideline" :(
[03:31] <manchicken> Jucato: I've already crashed it 3 times and had to do a system restore point twice.  I set it up at about 13:00 local time yesterday.
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[03:31] <manchicken> Hobbsee: Which program?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> manchicken: dont remember.  it's in default kde
[03:32] <Jucato> which program?
[03:32] <Hobbsee> might be from adding kcontrol applet to the kicker - but i remember seeing it in menus too
[03:32] <Jucato> right-click panel -> COnfigure Panel -> Menus options
[03:32] <Jucato> enable the Settings menu
[03:32] <Hobbsee> oh, there it is@
[03:33] <manchicken> How does one enable accented characters in Amarok?
[03:34] <manchicken> I keep getting weird characters instead of the accented ones.
[03:34] <manchicken> Hobbsee: I think I did a bad job of explaining this... let me screen shotty...
[03:35] <Jucato> manchicken: yep. a picture renders a thousand words :)
[03:36] <Hobbsee> manchicken: screenshot's good
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[03:38] <manchicken> http://imagepaste.nulldigital.net/viewimage.php?id=159
[03:39] <manchicken> Each of those little arrows is a drop-down for other possible items you could have selected.
[03:39] <manchicken> As ugly as the rest of the UI is, that's pretty neat functionality.
[03:40] <Jucato> reminds me a lot of Dolphin's breadcrumb toolbar
[03:40] <manchicken> Link me to dolphin
[03:41] <manchicken> I heard that's going to be the next file manager in KDE4?
[03:41] <Jucato> yep
[03:41] <Hobbsee> manchicken: like nautilus'
[03:41] <Jucato> but better
[03:41] <Jucato> Nautilus' breadcrumb doesn't have that dropdown feature
[03:42] <Jucato> great, I think I just deleted that relevant screenshot of mine :/
[03:42] <manchicken> I don't use nautilus... don't know it very well...
[03:43] <Tonio_> manchicken: fyi, I tried to build adept from source, no issue
[03:43] <Jucato> oh  it's still here, uploading
[03:43] <Jucato> hi Tonio_!
[03:43] <Tonio_> hey Jucato ;)
[03:43] <Hobbsee> hi Tonio_
[03:43] <Jucato> manchicken: http://jucato.org/stuff/dolphin.png
[03:43] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: ;)
[03:44] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: did you grab the patches that were assigned to me, for kmail?  i think you may have
[03:44] <Jucato> hm.. currently broken in Adept: sorting columns
[03:44] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: not yet
[03:44] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: url ?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: see assigned bugs for hobbsee
[03:45] <Hobbsee> it was a few weeks ago
[03:45] <manchicken> Ah.
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[03:45] <manchicken> That's not bad.
[03:45] <Hobbsee> "customers, the store is only closed for ONE DAY.  you do *not* need to buy everything in the store, the day before.
[03:45] <manchicken> Jucato: The only thing that's missing is the icons and the ability to click and just start typing.
[03:46] <Jucato> manchicken: ah you can type as well as click?
[03:47] <Jucato> on Dolphin you'd have to switch between breadcrumb to location toolbar to be able to type the exact location
[03:48] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: then I may have :)
[03:48] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: what were those patches about ?
[03:48] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: great
[03:48] <Hobbsee> oh dear.  i must be tired
[03:48] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: kmail crashing
[03:49] <Tonio_> while scanning the mails with rules that's it ?
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[03:49] <Tonio_> then yes, that in the package now
[03:49] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: that too.  and crashes with imap
[03:49] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: hum, unsure about the second..... at least I don't remember this...
[03:50] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: lemme check
[03:51] <Tonio_> Hobbsee:
[03:51] <Tonio_>   * Add kubuntu_12_mass_filter_crash.diff, closes
[03:51] <Tonio_>     Malone 86578
[03:51] <Tonio_>   * Add kubuntu_13_build_kpilot.diff, fixes kpilot
[03:51] <Tonio_>     build issue
[03:51] <ubotu> Malone bug 86578 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Stall loading module 'via82cxxx' when installing Feisty herd 4 on GA-965G-DS3 (dup-of: 84964)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86578
[03:51] <ubotu> Malone bug 84964 in linux-source-2.6.20 "Crash from ide_pci from generic.ko for jmicron controllers" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/84964
[03:51] <manchicken> Jucato: Yeah.  I like having both in the same thing.
[03:51] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: no imap related patch, but I don't remember even the issue..... imap works like a charm here
[03:52] <Tonio_> Hobbsee: if you have the url, let me know :)
[03:52] <manchicken> Jucato: But that means that we would need the text entry widget to support combo boxes and such.
[03:53] <manchicken> Jucato: Although I suppose we could have it just use the background of a text entry there, and then if someone clicks off to the side of it it could switch to a text entry pre-populated with the current location.
[03:54] <Jucato> hmm.... sounds complicated :)
[03:54] <Hobbsee> Tonio_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/60153 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/56369
[03:54] <ubotu> Malone bug 60153 in kdepim "kmail crash when selecting messages " [Medium,In progress] 
[03:55] <Tonio_> hum, will review that toonight, no time now for this, maybe in an our...
[03:57] <Lure> Tonio_: there is bunch of imap improvements in kde svn
[03:58] <Lure> Tonio_: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2739
[04:01] <Tonio_> Lure: yes but it was  discussed it was too late to sync kdepim with svn
[04:02] <Lure> Tonio_: some crashers might be nice to merge...
[04:02] <Tonio_> and has there a no patches published........; hard to get the stuff in
[04:02] <Tonio_> Lure: sure but how ? ;)
[04:02] <Lure> Tonio_: they are in SVN
[04:03] <Tonio_> Lure: <Tonio_> Lure: yes but it was  discussed it was too late to sync kdepim with svn
[04:03] <Tonio_> Lure: there are LOTS of chnges in svn, so just get the patches might be a bit complicated.......
[04:04] <Tonio_> unless you have a solution :)
[04:04] <Lure> Tonio_: ok, I might look into this (after I am done with my opensync testing)
[04:04] <Tonio_> Lure: I can help you eventually, but that's sounds hard to check, except reading the svn changelog eventually
[04:05] <manchicken> Tonio_: So were you able to replicate the issue I brought up yesterday?
[04:05] <Tonio_> Lure: I'm stuck on something else at the moment, but might be available for this in a moment
[04:05] <Tonio_> manchicken: nope :(
[04:05] <Tonio_> manchicken: works here
[04:05] <manchicken> Hmm...
[04:05] <manchicken> I don't see how that's possible.
[04:06] <manchicken> The tarball's md5sum matches...
[04:07] <manchicken> Yet the code for the supported package icon is simply not there...
[04:08] <manchicken> Okay, this is F'ed up though...
[04:08] <manchicken> I tar -zxvf'ed the tarball and I get adept-2.1.2ubuntu23 out of it.
[04:09] <manchicken> The tarball itself is named adept_2.1.2ubuntu24.tar.gz
[04:10] <Tonio_> manchicken: wait........
[04:10] <Tonio_> what can I grep to check if the code is there ?
[04:11] <manchicken> Look for a pixmap function in adept/adept/lister.cpp
[04:11] <manchicken> IIRC, you could just grep for case-sensitive pixmap
[04:11] <Tonio_> manchicken: the code is not in the source, but the patch is there
[04:12] <manchicken> Ah.
[04:12] <Tonio_> manchicken: how do you build your package ?
[04:12] <Tonio_> looks like you don't apply the patches !!!!!
[04:12] <manchicken> I do it manually.
[04:12] <Tonio_> do you compile manually ?
[04:12] <Jucato> hm... this is the Adept Updater bug I was mentioning earlier (originally mentioned by yuriy): http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081508.msg62022
[04:12] <manchicken> That'd explain it.
[04:12] <Tonio_> manchicken: then perform a fakeroot debian/rules apply-patches
[04:12] <Tonio_> before building......
[04:12] <manchicken> ... duh... I should know better.
[04:12] <manchicken> heh
[04:13] <manchicken> Beautiful.
[04:13] <manchicken> Thanks.
[04:13] <manchicken> I'm an idiot.
[04:14] <manchicken> I'm so used to building from my bzr branches...
[04:14] <manchicken> Which are now all out of date :)
[04:14] <manchicken> Yay.
[04:14] <Tonio_> ;)
[04:14] <Tm_T> Jucato: ping
[04:15] <Jucato> Tm_T: pong
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[04:15] <Tm_T> Jucato: GeForce4 does have now drivers in Feisty, right?
[04:15] <Jucato> Tm_T: hm... not that I know of. checking
[04:15] <Tm_T> or what was that driver mess
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[04:17] <Jucato> Tm_T: the driver mess was that Ubuntu only has packages for 2 drivers: 97xx (latest) and 71xx (uber legacy). but nvidia just recently marked off another batch of "legacy" cards... the 96xx series, which GeForce4 belongs to
[04:19] <manchicken> Riddell: I *think* I have a fix to the toggling expander icon issue.
[04:19] <manchicken> Riddell: I should know here in a minute whether or not I'm write, or I'm stupid :)
[04:19] <manchicken> right*
[04:20] <manchicken> (I guess I could be both)
[04:23] <Tm_T> Jucato: so I thought, and that middleseries is still without package, I presume?
[04:24] <Jucato> Tm_T: you presume correctly :)
[04:24] <Tm_T> hmh, shame
[04:25] <Jucato> true. I'm damned to use the driver from nvidia.com... and all the reinstalling it entails with new kernel and xorg updates
[04:33] <manchicken> Argh...
[04:33] <manchicken> This toggle icon is a side-affect of overriding the pixmap() method.
[04:36] <nixternal> imbrandon: errm, you beat me to the Amarok statement :) and now I can't read your blog because it was so good it got /. ;p
[04:36] <nixternal> oh, here it comes now
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[04:47] <manchicken> This is either going to work, or it's going to result in an infinite loop... let's find out!
[04:47] <imbrandon> nixternal, :)
[04:47] <manchicken> I am the master of all things!  Booya!
[04:48] <manchicken> Riddell: Merry Christmas.  Have your expander icons back.
[04:54] <Riddell> manchicken: ooh ooh!
[04:55] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:55] <manchicken> I had to manually kill the conflicts in the diff since I'm not doing it in bzr
[04:55] <Hobbsee> Riddell's excited!
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[05:09] <manchicken> Riddell: Patch sent.
[05:31] <manchicken> noatun doesn't seem to like streaming m3us
[05:31] <manchicken> It segv's every time.
[05:31] <Riddell> simple solution to that..
[05:32] <Jucato> hm... amarok? :)
[05:32] <Hobbsee> Riddell: did you hear that i tried the dist-upgrader on this laptop, and it worked fine?
[05:32] <manchicken> I'm having a hard time getting amarok to become the default player for those.
[05:33] <manchicken> konq still wants to play them with noatun even after I change the association.
[05:33] <Riddell> Hobbsee: nope, but great to hear
[05:34] <Riddell> Hobbsee: what version of kde did you start off with?
[05:34] <Hobbsee> Riddell: 3.5.2, iirc
[05:34] <Hobbsee> the interesting one will be on my other laptop
[05:34] <Riddell> Hobbsee: ?  that's older than edgy
[05:34] <Hobbsee> which i think has 3.5.5, or 3.5.6
[05:34] <Hobbsee> oh, well, whatever edgy has
[05:34] <Riddell> ok
[05:34] <Riddell> reports from 3.5.6 would be good now
[05:35] <Hobbsee> (which has had lots of random packages installed on it)
[05:35] <Riddell> nixternal: we need to ponder about release notes, and dist upgrade instructions
[05:38] <mhb> Riddell: yes, it seems to work
[05:38] <mhb> Riddell: for me
[05:39] <Riddell> mhb: adept?
[05:39] <mhb> Riddell: yup
[05:39] <nixternal> Riddell: I am already working on release notes for the website
[05:39] <Riddell> mhb: awooga!
[05:39] <Riddell> nixternal: where are you working on them?
[05:39] <nixternal> dist-upgrade instructions we can either 1) tie into the release notes, or 2) create a page just for them
[05:39] <nixternal> Riddell: locally, in PHP for the website
[05:39] <mhb> Riddell: for some reason the most recent daily langpack breaks a lot of translations
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[05:39] <nixternal> I have kubuntu-www bzr branch checked out locally
[05:40] <mhb> Riddell: but it also could be me, as I have nobody to confirm it
[05:40] <Riddell> nixternal: oh, clever :)
[05:40] <Riddell> mhb: vprints was also mentioning that
[05:40] <mhb> Riddell: oh
[05:52] <nixternal> k, time for some class since I don't have any :)  anyways, feisty+1, I want a mentor. My plans are to start getting into development more, doing some coding and some MOTU stuff. back in a bit
[05:52] <Hobbsee> nixternal: both you and Jucato.  cool :)
[05:52] <Hobbsee> nixternal: asking people in #ubuntu-motu to answer your questions tends to wokr well
[05:53] <Jucato> :)
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[05:53] <Jucato> nixternal is ahead of me in the coding department... and since we're having a long holy weekend... I won't be able to do much "stuff" :/
[05:55] <Hobbsee> heh
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[06:02] <nixternal> Jucato: oh ya, I am way ahead of you, I am lost in the world of arrays, pass by pointer and pass by reference right now. You and I are dead even. I can do cout << "WOOHOO" << endl; though ;p
[06:02] <Jucato> hahah! :)
[06:02] <Jucato> maybe I'll see you wandering in that forest when I pass by it too :)
[06:02] <nixternal> cout << "Goodbye World\n";
[06:03] <Jucato> are you sure you said using std::cout; and using std::endl; first? :P
[06:03] <nixternal> dude, I just took a seat in the forest, I probably look like Stevie Wonder looking for a needle in haystack right now
[06:03] <nixternal> using namespace std;  <-- you don't have to use std:: for everything then
[06:04] <nixternal> something I learned taking a "proper" course
[06:04] <nixternal> otherwise I would have std:: everywhere
[06:05] <nixternal> but doing std:: and not 'using namespace std;' allows you to use multiple
[06:05] <Jucato> but doing using namespace std, I've heard, is bad practice too
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[06:16] <nixternal> Jucato: it is in our line of work ;)
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[06:47] <bddebian> Heya gang
[06:48] <Riddell> bddebian!
[06:48] <bddebian> Hi Riddell
[06:49] <bddebian> Are you confusing me with bdmurray again? :-)
[06:49] <Riddell> I don't confuse those, only my tab does
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[08:33] <AcidBurn> any news on bug 37784, when this will be fix, for real?
[08:33] <ubotu> Malone bug 37784 in linux-source-2.6.20 "sky2 ethernet driver is freezing on big upload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/37784
[08:43] <mhb> AcidBurn: we maintain KDE, so we cannot do much about it
[08:44] <mhb> AcidBurn: you can ask at #ubuntu-kernel , that channel is for kernel maintainers (but I don't promise anything)
[08:48] <mhb> nixternal: around?
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[10:15] <giangy> 'evening..
[10:19] <nixternal> afternoon here :)
[10:22] <giangy> nixternal: heh, 22:22 here :)
[10:22] <nixternal> 15:22 in the windy city
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