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mihi_ignosce	dauoalagio2, are you using edgy or dapper?	12:12
dauoalagio2	edgy	12:12
mihi_ignosce	dauoalagio2, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php	12:12
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dauoalagio2	thank you mihi_ignosce	12:13
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mihi_ignosce	dauoalagio2, np	12:13
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BluesKaj	dauoalagio2, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	12:13
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mihi_ignosce	KDE 3.5.6 is not in the normal edgy repos	12:13
junocdx	Can you use dual monitors in Kubuntu with an ATI card?	12:13
Photon	i need help in Kdevelop, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943/	12:14
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BluesKaj	well , i assume ppl have added repos to the basic sources list , just thru usage	12:14
Photon	now what should i do?	12:15
mihi_ignosce	junocdx, yes. How? I don't know. I've seen it done though.	12:15
pollyo	Are the packages adept installs in deb format?	12:15
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mihi_ignosce	pollyo, yes	12:17
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Photon	i need help in Kdevelop, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943/	12:17
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Photon	k solved the problem	12:18
Photon	:)	12:19
aaroncampbell	cpk1: I don't know how I missed your response to me earlier, but you said "you need to have a samba user to authenticate" ...can you elaborate?	12:19
danny500	I need help getting access to my Windows XP drive from my linux drive, any suggestions?	12:19
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Laconic	!ntfs-3g > danny500	12:19
BluesKaj	danny500 , install ntfs-3g	12:19
Laconic	!mount > danny500	12:19
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cpk1	aaroncampbell: you need to have a unix account and then create a samba user for that account and then use that username from windows	12:20
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cpk1	sudo smbpasswd -L -a aaroncampbell and sudo smbpasswd -L -e aaroncampbell if you were doing yourself	12:20
aaroncampbell	cpk1: I want ANY windows computer connected to the network to be able to access it	12:20
LiveCD_ian	Does anybody know of any reasons why lspci only finds 1 of 2 vga adapters ?	12:21
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Laconic	LiveCD_ian, are you using the LiveCD or an installed version of Kubuntu?	12:23
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LiveCD_ian	Laconic: I am using the LiveCD at the moment, but i had a full install earlier and it was the same.	12:24
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LiveCD_ian	Laconic: Would it normally make a difference ?	12:25
Laconic	LiveCD_ian, the LiveCD does not have nvidia-glx support so the question, in the context of using a LiveCD is moot as you can't use both cards. That being said, there may be a different identifier for the 2nd GPU in lspci	12:26
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jager	who can help me get sound out of flash?	12:27
jager	i get video no problem but i've never had sound on this machine	12:27
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jager	any information you need to help diagnose just ask, i'll provide it	12:28
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klam	need these gone 2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN Solutions1981@hotmail.com or aim: solutions1981	12:28
h0ax	is there a command like apt-get command for beryl ?	12:28
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jager	this is kubuntu edgy btw	12:28
Laconic	!flash \| jager	12:28
ubotu	jager: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	12:28
ubotu	Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash	12:28
cpk1	aaroncampbell: ok, but you still need to authenticate yourself, any user WILL be able to access it still	12:28
LiveCD_ian	Laconic: I see, so it might not state that its VGA in lspci ?	12:28
jager	flash 9 is installed and seems to work very well	12:28
jager	from adobe.com's tarball	12:29
Laconic	LiveCD_ian, that's possible. I'd have to try it on my SLI machine before I could answer definitively	12:29
jager	only it has no sound, it never has sound on this machine	12:29
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h0ax	cpk1: is there a command like apt-get command for beryl ?	12:29
jager	doing the exact same thing on other machines and i get sound a video	12:29
Laconic	h0ax, edgy or feisty?	12:29
jager	something about this one makes sound fail	12:29
h0ax	i dunno :S	12:30
aaroncampbell	cpk1: I need to specify a password for this?	12:30
Laconic	jager, no sound at all? from anything?	12:30
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aaroncampbell	or should it be left blank to allow anyone	12:30
cpk1	aaroncampbell: use the unix password	12:30
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jager	i get no sound from flash videos in firefox or konqueror	12:30
h0ax	Laconic: i dunno which it is	12:30
jager	all other sound seems to work as expected	12:30
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Laconic	h0ax, what does uname -r give you?	12:31
h0ax	2.6.15	12:31
h0ax	-28-286	12:31
deian	hi ppl, who's on feisty??	12:32
klam	need these gone 2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN Solutions1981@hotmail.com or aim: solutions1981	12:32
nixternal	deian: I am	12:32
jager	Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31 is listed in about:plugins in konqueror	12:32
Laconic	h0ax, you have egdy, in which case the answer is yes with reservations. See the wiki on beryl-project.org	12:32
deian	can we have a quick chat	12:32
h0ax	do you know the command Laconic ?	12:32
nixternal	deian: sure	12:32
deian	wanna pick ur brains	12:32
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nixternal	there isn't much there, I have been studying for my Philosophy and Logic class tonight	12:32
jager	you have to modify your sources.list h0ax, go read the wiki he pointed you to	12:32
Laconic	h0ax, ... you may have dapper with that kernel, not edgy	12:33
aaroncampbell	cpk1: Ok, I did that, and I was prompted for the root password, and then a SMB password (twice). I used my login password for the smb password. Then I restarted samba, but I still get the same error from the windows box.	12:33
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Laconic	h0ax, either way, you should look at the wiki on beryl-project.org	12:33
Ace2016	hi all	12:33
Ace2016	does the kubuntu live cd installer have shred on it?	12:34
deian	when the kubuntu boots, how do i get it in verbose mode? like in suse u press 'esc'	12:34
cpk1	aaroncampbell: specifying the correct username from windows?	12:34
nixternal	Laconic: that is a Dapper kernel, UNLESS...he did a dist-upgrade to Edgy, the kernel may not have followed	12:34
LiveCD_ian	Laconic: Thanks for your time. I really hope i can get this to work, i spent 2000 pounds on this project	12:34
arafat	deian: CTRL+ALT+F1	12:34
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deian	ohhh	12:34
Ace2016	i really don't want to have to burn DBAN a 2mb iso to a dvd!!! so i can just wipe my harddisks	12:34
cpk1	h0ax: do 'lsb_release -a' to find out what version of ubuntu you have	12:34
nixternal	deian: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the quiet	12:34
aaroncampbell	cpk1: That's the thing...I don't want anyone to need to specify a username/pass	12:34
Ace2016	what did you spend 2000 on?	12:34
deian	excellent	12:35
jager	all sound fixes i see seem to be for flash 7	12:35
deian	something else too...	12:35
aaroncampbell	cpk1: and besides...I'm never given the chance to enter one	12:35
jager	not 9	12:35
cpk1	aaroncampbell: try specifying just a username with a blank password	12:35
nixternal	deian: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.20-13-generic root=UUID=0a6e4957-5b03-46f1-885c-1c3623f684a3 ro	12:35
h0ax	cpk1: dapper	12:35
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nixternal	that is how my boot looks in the kernel, I removed the splash and the quiet so I can see everything it is doing	12:35
deian	i assume since i installed beta, and got all the daily updates, i've got the final version by now?	12:35
nixternal	deian: yes	12:35
nixternal	not the final version, but the latest	12:35
deian	nixternal: yes it's nice to see what is happenin	12:35
Ace2016	jager: flash 9's sould has worked fine for me, maybe there are only tips for flash 7 since there were lots of problems with it, i had to use artsdsp to get it to work ok	12:36
nixternal	there are still a few more weeks of fixing and tweaking to do with Feisty	12:36
deian	it will eventually lead to the final version right?	12:36
nixternal	yup	12:36
nixternal	I have been dist-upgrading since breezy	12:36
deian	it still satisfies more than suse for me	12:36
jager	i remember using that tip in firefoxrc with 7, and it did work, but with 9 nothing has helpe	12:36
jager	d	12:36
nixternal	I usually dist-upgrade 2 to 3 weeks after the development repos open	12:36
alphi_	anyone know how i can get the 'mkinitrd' command ?	12:36
aaroncampbell	cpk1: I'm never offered the chance	12:36
cpk1	aaroncampbell: are you using wins?	12:37
h0ax	Night all .	12:37
aaroncampbell	cpk1: ?	12:37
nixternal	alphi_: initrd-tools	12:37
deian	where can i get a list of the 'other' repositories?	12:37
alphi_	awesome, thanks	12:37
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nixternal	!sources	12:37
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	12:37
deian	does it have libdvdcss2?	12:38
deian	and flash for firefox?	12:38
nixternal	one of the devs has a super list that shows all of them as well	12:38
cpk1	aaroncampbell: have you mapped the network drive for the samba share from windows yet?	12:38
nixternal	deian: if you are using feisty, then universe and multiverse are already enabled	12:38
deian	they are in there?	12:38
nixternal	flash for firefox => flashplugin_nonfree	12:38
deian	i'll go see now	12:39
nixternal	flash for firefox => flashplugin-nonfree	12:39
nixternal	I typo'd that	12:39
nixternal	libdvdcss2 is located somewhere, can't remember though	12:39
aaroncampbell	cpk1: not sure what that means. I can see the computer in the workgroup, but I click on it, I get that error...same if I hit start->run-> "\\aaron-linux"	12:39
nixternal	!libdvdcss2	12:39
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	12:39
nixternal	deian: ^^	12:39
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cpk1	aaroncampbell: go to start > right click my computer > then map network drive	12:40
Ace2016	hi all	12:41
Ace2016	anyone know how to get shred to delete files as well as go into the dirs?	12:41
cpk1	aaroncampbell: if you are using wins with samba then you can specify it by name otherwise use the ip	12:41
deian	can't find the flash plugin ppl?	12:41
nixternal	flashplugin-nonfree is the name of it	12:42
aaroncampbell	cpk1: how can I set up wins?	12:42
deian	closest thing i see is libflash-mozplugin	12:42
aaroncampbell	cpk1: is it just another package? Or more configuration? both?	12:43
RaNDyMyZe	deian: enable multiverse	12:43
deian	let me go investigate the list then	12:43
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RaNDyMyZe	deian: what version of kubuntu are you running? this is for feisty	12:44
nixternal	RaNDyMyZe: fesity	12:44
nixternal	RaNDyMyZe: also edgy has it as well	12:44
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nixternal	!info flashplugin-nonfree	12:44
cpk1	aaroncampbell: its a line in smb.conf... you probably need to spend more time making sure you have correctly configured samba first...	12:44
ubotu	flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)	12:44
nixternal	hrmm, I thought they had v9 in edgy, guess I was wrong	12:44
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nixternal	!info flashplugin-nonfree feisty	12:45
ubotu	flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)	12:45
nixternal	man that bot is slow	12:45
nixternal	it is definitely there	12:46
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aaroncampbell	cpk1: I still get the same error when connecting...and this way allowed me to specify the correct username/pass, but it made no difference	12:46
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deian	ok next question is...	12:48
aaroncampbell	I thought maybe there was a firewall or something, but iptables -L shows 3 chains, all set to ACCEPT with no exceptions	12:48
deian	where is my windows partition?	12:48
deian	don't seem to be mounted by default	12:49
nixternal	deian: hopefully it got wiped out, but if it didn't :) you need to check	12:50
junocdx	where is xorg.conf?	12:50
junocdx	i forgot the directory	12:50
nixternal	fdisk	12:50
nixternal	heh, forgot to add that	12:50
deian	it's still on the harddrive, i just want to access my itunes music (non drm ones of course)	12:51
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nixternal	deian: pata or sata hard drive?	12:52
nixternal	actually, I dunno how to mount a winblows drive, maybe someone else does though :)	12:52
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RaNDyMyZe	junocdx: xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/	12:52
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jager	hey i got it!	12:53
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RaNDyMyZe	junocdx: make sure you back it up before changing it	12:53
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calamari	hi	12:53
jager	there is a recent post on the forums describing exactly my problem with flash sound and how to fix it	12:53
jager	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2392024	12:53
calamari	is there a way to make the desktop icons smaller?	12:53
jager	in case any other have similar problems	12:53
deian	saya	12:53
deian	sata even	12:53
deian	i don't know either, linux is still a but mysterious to me	12:53
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jager	i'm very pleased, this has been nagging me since flash9 was release, months ago	12:54
junocdx	anyone have any experiance with aticonfig?	12:54
yurimxpxman	is there any way to convert a wav/flac to WMA in linux?	12:55
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chijin	yurimxpxman: there are better formats than wma :-)	12:55
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cpk1	yurimxpxman: ffmpeg should	12:56
yurimxpxman	cpk1: how would I use ffmpeg to do it?	12:56
yurimxpxman	chijin: I know that. I'm just trying to compare the different codecs	12:56
cpk1	something like ffmpeg -i nameof.flac newfile.wma	12:56
cpk1	that should work yurimxpxman	12:57
Sanne	calamari: system settings/appearance/icons/advanced (that's where it is in Dapper)	12:57
deian	so anyone here clued up on mounting windows partition	12:58
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jager	how many of you guys use konqueror for your primary browser?	12:58
cpk1	deian: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/partition /media/somefolder	12:58
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cpk1	i do jager	12:58
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deian	ohhh	12:59
deian	that simple	12:59
deian	?	12:59
cpk1	deian: you need to know the dev point	12:59
jager	anything it consistantly can't do cpk1?	12:59
junocdx	cpk1: is there safe, effective ntfs support that allows you to read and write?	12:59
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deian	sda/??? ?	12:59
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jager	junocdx: look into ntfs-3g	12:59
VSpike	!ntfs-3g \| junocdx	01:00
ubotu	junocdx: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)	01:00
cpk1	you can read safely no matter what, I dont think you can ever say that writing is "safe"	01:00
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cpk1	deian: it can be on sda, but you still need a number so it would be /dev/sda1 or somesuch	01:00
jager	why not cpk1? is ntfs-3g still not ready for prime time?	01:00
junocdx	anyone have any experiance with aticonfig?	01:01
zerothis	is it possible to run OSX (darwin) apps in Ubuntu?	01:01
junocdx	or can tell me how to run different resolutions on my dual monitors?	01:01
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cpk1	there still is a chance it can lose data jager so technically you can never be 100% sure with it	01:01
zerothis	jager: i've run ntfs-3g on 2 different computer without problems	01:01
jager	i've not had any problems either	01:01
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tux	hi guys	01:02
jager	well whatever then, ymmv i guess but it has worked for me	01:02
jager	hi tux	01:02
tux	how can i find out my wireless lan macadress	01:03
alphi_	is there any way to RTAI patch a kernel without re-installing it ?	01:03
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zerothis	ntfs-3g hasn't lost any of my data yet. however, windows has lost my data many times	01:03
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jager	ifconfig -a?	01:03
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deian	how do i know where windows is mounted?	01:04
Daboone72	Looks like I'm going to be a kubuntu convert. Good job on the installer am well impressed.	01:04
deian	cos in feisty they are remaned hda to sda right?	01:04
zerothis	deian: winecfg	01:05
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deian	enlighten me?	01:06
Sanne	deian: hda, hdb... are ide or pata devices, sd a sata devices	01:06
zerothis	sda is a serial ata hd i think. hda would be old ata	01:06
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deian	i have sata	01:06
tux	found it, thank you jager	01:06
deian	so windows would be on sda3 (for instance?)	01:06
Daboone72	Well zip drives flash drives are sdb1 scsi don't know what sata is	01:06
tux	HwAddr from ifconfig	01:06
VSpike	deian is right I think. In feisty, pata devices become sdx too	01:06
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Sanne	deian: you can list your partitions with: sudo fdisk -l	01:07
deian	oh excellent	01:07
deian	ok	01:07
Sanne	deian: you can see what's mounted currently with: mount	01:07
zerothis	deian: use the command "winecfg" and look at the Drives tab. it will show where all the windows drives are mounted	01:08
deian	i don't have wine installe	01:08
zerothis	deian, oh	01:08
deian	fdisk -l shows windows is on /dev/sda1	01:08
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zerothis	afk	01:09
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deian	wine is something i will move onto real soon!!	01:09
Sanne	deian: and is /dev/sda1 mounted anywhere? Type: mount	01:09
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deian	please	01:10
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Daboone72	Yes all ata devices appear as SCSI because were using libata http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=541094	01:10
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tux	how can i work with WPA keys	01:11
mrigns	!wpa	01:11
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	01:11
Sanne	deian: here's some instructions about mounting windows partitions: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html	01:12
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mrigns	!ntfs-3g	01:12
ubotu	ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)	01:12
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deian	how do i mount /dev/sda1 then? i tried the command mount -t /dev/sda1 /media/windows	01:13
deian	but it says /media/windows does not exist	01:14
mrigns	deian: sudo mkdir /media/windows	01:14
DaSkreech	is there a way to get my hardware info/	01:14
DaSkreech	?	01:14
DaSkreech	Guified?	01:14
mrigns	the repeat the mounting	01:14
mrigns	yes	01:15
DaSkreech	Outside of lshw -html :-P	01:15
mrigns	try kicker --> system	01:15
mrigns	DaSkreech: kinfocenter -caption "%c" %i %m	01:15
mrigns	should work without the parameter though	01:16
eilker	is there a pencil tool for drawing in krita ?	01:16
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eilker	i cant find it	01:16
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Sanne	DaSkreech: menu/system/kinfocenter	01:16
mrigns	eilker: isnt it the one on the upper left?	01:17
deian	ok now i don't have permission to read the mounted windows paritiom	01:17
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DaSkreech	Sanne: Thanks	01:17
deian	grrrrrr	01:17
eilker	mrigns: i think yes:) sorry	01:17
Sanne	DaSkreech: you're welcome	01:17
DaSkreech	It's not very pretty :)	01:18
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DaSkreech	This would scare most people	01:18
mrigns	but it shows all needed stuff	01:18
deian	anyone?	01:18
DaSkreech	true. but honestly lshw is prettier	01:19
DaSkreech	deian: is it NTFS?	01:19
deian	yea	01:19
deian	is this where the problem is?	01:19
Sanne	deian: you might want to read the link I gave you, might get some basics explained ;)	01:19
mrigns	!ntfs-3g \| deian	01:19
ubotu	deian: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)	01:19
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deian	ok thanks	01:19
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mrigns	deian: now i posted it twice	01:19
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mrigns	just read it	01:19
Sanne	deian: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html	01:20
deian	sorry, don't know how i missed that first time round	01:20
VSpike	deian are you using ntfs-3g or the standard ntfs driver?	01:20
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deian	no idea	01:21
deian	which one is the standard one?	01:21
adam__	I'm trying to log into my bank (http://www.capitalone.co.uk/) with konqueror but everytime it loads the page meta-refreshs to http://www.capitalone.co.uk/web/MenuUrl?pageId=1 and then opens this page in kate which isn't helpfull and prevents me actually accessing the site. Is their someway of telling konqueror to open it?	01:21
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deian	how do i unmount?	01:22
HaSH	adam__, try firefox?.	01:22
k0	i just installed kubuntu but my sound is really low	01:22
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k0	deian: umount <device>	01:23
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adam__	I shouldn't have too, and i hate firefox anyway	01:23
k0	any had this problem?	01:23
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HaSH	adam__, eh konqueror isnt a good browser for th inet. but w/e flaos your boat :-)	01:23
k0	my master volume isnt there jus pcm	01:23
HaSH	*floats	01:23
junocdx	adam__: www.opera.com	01:23
adam__	Rubbish KHTML is the best html render, its the only one that passes the acid2 test	01:24
orestes	Excuse me: Is this the correct place to ask about KDE translations in Rosetta?	01:25
HaSH	orestes, maby try #kde	01:25
orestes	ok, thanks	01:25
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HaSH	np	01:25
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calamari	Sanne: thanks for your desktop icon help earlier, that's where it is in Edgy too! :)	01:25
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Sanne	calamari: ah, good to know, glad it helped, thanks for the followup :)	01:26
deian	nice one guys i successfully mounted windows	01:26
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Newbie-None	Hi all	01:27
k0	anyone else had problem with low sound with intel sound card	01:27
Newbie-None	I have a problem....I cant edir grub/menu.lst	01:27
Newbie-None	*edit	01:27
calamari	Newbie-None: why not?	01:28
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Newbie-None	I dont know. I havnt rights probably.	01:28
verzonnen	gues because it needs to be done as root?	01:28
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Sanne	Newbie-None: try: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst	01:29
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Newbie-None	In terminal I connect as root and I wrote > kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst but....	01:30
Newbie-None	Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server	01:31
Newbie-None	Xlib: No protocol specified	01:31
Newbie-None	kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0	01:31
Sanne	Newbie-None: no, don't login as root. Type this as a normal user in a konsole window.	01:31
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mzanfardino	I'm running Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 on Ubuntu Edgy and can not seem to get a link in email to spawn Firefox: it always opens the link in Konquer. Now, I've already gone to the system configuration and set Firefox as my default browser and it seems to work with other apps. Am I missing something in Thunderbird? (if this is not the correct channel, please direct me to the correct one)	01:31
k0	Newbie-None: use 'nano -w /boot/grub'	01:31
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Newbie-None	ko > thx Im in....meybe i save it in a few seconds	01:33
Newbie-None	yes. Thats right. Thx to all and especially to k0 for "nano" edit	01:35
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Photon	does anyone kno about allegro lib?	01:36
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Photon	i want to know how to setup allegro on kdevelop	01:36
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dwidmann	boo!	01:48
Newbie-None	How can I import Icq list in Kopete?	01:49
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mrigns	icq saves its list on its server	01:55
mrigns	not locally	01:55
dwidmann	mrigns: I think newbie-none left already	01:56
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mrigns	oh	01:56
jason_	oh	01:56
mrigns	turne the leaves/joins out :d	01:56
jason_	whi us this	01:56
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Daisuke_Ido	jason_: could you repeat that? in english, perhaps?	01:56
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jason_	who is this	01:57
Daisuke_Ido	ah	01:57
jason_	yea	01:57
Daisuke_Ido	i'm not sure	01:57
jason_	what do u mean	01:57
jason_	what is ur name	01:57
jason_	so how r u	01:57
Daisuke_Ido	my name is a series of pictographs that is entirely unpronouncable in your language	01:58
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jason_	do you know anything bout computers	01:58
verzonnen	jason he is here is he not	01:58
Daisuke_Ido	but you can call me "squiggly line, squiggly line, eye, urinating dog"	01:58
jason_	do u know anything bout computers	01:59
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Daisuke_Ido	!ask \| jason_	01:59
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ubotu	jason_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)	01:59
Rip	what do you need?	01:59
sayers	Where is the location of the install folder for java so I can locate the JRE and add it to Eclipse?	02:00
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verzonnen	sayers "type java" on the command line	02:01
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jason_	okay i cant play dvds on my computers when i have everything but it doesnnt do anything	02:01
chemicalvamp	is there an error message jason_?	02:02
jason_	so do u know how to fix it	02:02
jason_	i dont know it doesnt do anything	02:02
freexqf	how good is ntfs write support on kubuntu 7.04 beta?	02:02
freexqf	can i write to the ntfs without worrying?	02:02
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chemicalvamp	have you tried	02:02
chemicalvamp	!dvd	02:02
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	02:02
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jason_	okay thank you	02:02
chemicalvamp	np ,am	02:03
jason_	yea i have	02:03
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chemicalvamp	!codec	02:03
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:03
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jason_	what do u have linux or kubuntu	02:03
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Daisuke_Ido	kubuntu is linux.	02:04
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sayers	Kubuntu is a distro of linux, few people really make their own distros and use just linux's kernel.	02:04
chemicalvamp	i was just gonna say that hehe	02:04
dwidmann	or more correctly, kubuntu has linux :)	02:04
freexqf	kubuntu use linux	02:04
zerothis	is it possible to run OSX (darwin) apps in Ubuntu?	02:04
sayers	dwidmann: I was correcter faster :P	02:04
Daisuke_Ido	kubuntu contains that which is linux, surrounded by that which is not	02:04
dwidmann	sayers: bah humbug	02:04
freexqf	well, does anybody know how good is ntfs write support in kubuntu? should i use it without worryng?	02:04
sayers	verzonnen: that didnt work	02:05
jason_	i still dont know how ti fix it	02:05
zerothis	you should worry about everything, it helps. i worry about all sorts of things and then they never happen	02:06
verzonnen	sayers: what did not work?	02:06
jason_	i try to use it under kaffeine is there a better dvd player prgram	02:06
dwidmann	freexqf: ntfs write is always going to be a bit risky, if you need 100% reliability and would cry for weeks on end if you lost your data, ntfs write is not for you	02:06
sayers	verzonnen: the location of the jre	02:06
freexqf	ok.. not using, too much valuable data...	02:06
sayers	Here is an idea. Dont double boot.	02:06
verzonnen	sayers what was the output?	02:06
freexqf	thxks	02:06
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dwidmann	jason_: kaffeine works well, vlc is good also, as is okle (though it is uses oss audio which is IMO a pain in the butt)	02:06
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sayers	verzonnen: /usr/bin/java which isnt really a jre of what I want ?	02:07
jason_	how do i work it	02:07
jason_	though	02:07
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chemicalvamp	do you think i could use vmware to run feisty?	02:07
verzonnen	sayers: I have no idea what you want	02:07
jason_	i just got linux	02:07
dwidmann	/usr/lib/jvm/[insert your jvm here] /bin <-- add me to your $PATH	02:08
jason_	i dont understand	02:08
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dwidmann	chemicalvamp: you can	02:08
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dwidmann	chemicalvamp: I think I still have herd2 installed in a vm laying around somewhere ...	02:09
jason_	so does any1 know what to do i u and just loaded up kubunt and i dont know what to do for the dvd player	02:09
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dwidmann	!DVD \| jason	02:09
ubotu	jason: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	02:09
N6REJ	anyone know of a GOOD ftp program that handles chmod commands without so much mouse clicking? Especially recursive and grouped folders	02:10
dwidmann	It's lying about k9copy, it's in multiverse o.O	02:10
chemicalvamp	!ftp	02:10
ubotu	FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd	02:10
jason_	so ubotu how do i load the stuff up	02:11
N6REJ	kftpgrabber is terrible!	02:11
dwidmann	kftpgrabber is un-fun	02:11
N6REJ	thats the truth!	02:11
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dwidmann	Konqueror works well, I also use wput and ftp ... they serve their purpose too	02:11
jason_	nevermind u guys r useless	02:11
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dwidmann	jason_: ubotu is a bot ...	02:12
N6REJ	!kasablanca	02:12
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:12
jason_	oo icic i dint now i dont use this ever	02:12
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Powerking89670	is it possible to send a ping with the Konsole?	02:13
Powerking89670	I know Windows has a Ping command	02:13
N6REJ	jason, there's a whole section for learning about linux and ubuntu.	02:13
dwidmann	basically, you'll need to click this link: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages, and follow the instructions there to add the "Seveas" repository. Afterwards, you'll need to install the package "libdvdcss2", "libdvdread3", "libdvdnav4", and "libdvdplay0" in adept	02:13
N6REJ	Powerking89670: yep, "PING" in lowercase	02:13
Yorokobi	Powerking89670, ping <destination>	02:13
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Powerking89670	kk thank you :D	02:13
Powerking89670	How do I stop the pinging	02:14
dwidmann	ctrl +c	02:15
chemicalvamp	ctrl c	02:15
Powerking89670	thank you	02:15
Powerking89670	thought I was DDOSing someone there for a second.....	02:15
Yorokobi	Powerking89670, that would be ping -f	02:15
N6REJ	lol	02:15
Powerking89670	lol	02:15
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chemicalvamp	using vmware, can i also duel boot?	02:18
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Daisuke_Ido	huh?	02:19
chemicalvamp	i mean like have 1/2 hdd for linux, and 1/2 for windows.. an run windows with vmware	02:19
dwidmann	chemicalvamp: do you mean, using an os both within a vmware and as another boot option? Maybe...	02:19
chemicalvamp	yes	02:19
Daisuke_Ido	i think may be possible	02:19
Daisuke_Ido	but i wouldn't know how to go about it	02:19
chemicalvamp	how is vmware normaly used? (dont give me the !vmware lol) i just want the jist of it	02:20
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dwidmann	vmware is usually used so you can run multiple operating systems without running multiple computers (or going through the hassle of dual booting)	02:23
twiztr	But for vmware, you need a good amount of ram, usually.	02:24
flaccid	um !flash and !backports doesn't really tell you the package name for flash9 or how to install?	02:24
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dwidmann	twiztr: a gig is pretty good for two, might be able to skate by with less, especially if the Os's are 32-bit	02:25
twiztr	dwidmann: Yea, I have to up my ram, soon.	02:25
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chemicalvamp	twiztr, 1 gig good enough?	02:26
chemicalvamp	nevermind, didnt see that other message	02:26
dwidmann	I think I successfully got Ubuntu running with 128mb ram, it used more like 32mb when running, which was nice, but the installer requires >128mb, you'll run out of memory during the installer and it will take forever with no updates on the screen, heck, I thought it had froze, so I walked away, came back a while later and it was done, surprised me.	02:26
twiztr	chemicalvamp: Yea, I would be able to run two with one gig. But my box only have 512.	02:27
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t3hwiz0rd	can anyone help me get wireless working on kubuntu? i just got my laptop. the device is seen and recognized, and wireless assistant picks up my network but won't connect.	02:28
twiztr	t3hwiz0rd: You shouldn't irc as root...	02:28
t3hwiz0rd	twiztr: it shouldn't be logged in as root 0.o	02:28
twiztr	(n=root@ip72-200-103-253.tc.ph.cox.net).	02:28
dwidmann	Funny thing, before I took my computer down for a little bit earlier today, I think I was running at about 700+mb ram, with only one os ...	02:28
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wizard_	ookay...	02:28
zerothis	vmware. need enough memory to run your host operating system, and the guest operating system, AND the programs your running in the guest OS, AND still have memory left for VMWare itself, _AND_ any other apps you want to run on the host OS at the same time.	02:28
dwidmann	back down to using 420mb now	02:28
twiztr	there	02:28
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t3hwiz0rd	now	02:28
twiztr	lol	02:28
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t3hwiz0rd	any idea why wireless assistant can pick up the network but when i enter in my wpa key it wont connect?	02:29
twiztr	Umm, what kind of lappy?	02:29
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t3hwiz0rd	asus a8jm	02:29
t3hwiz0rd	the card seems to be supported by default from what i've heard, its intel	02:29
twiztr	Damn. It it was a Toshiba, I could of helped.	02:29
Powerking89670	is there a linux equivilent to cls? a command that clears the console window?	02:29
Yorokobi	Powerking89670, clear	02:30
dwidmann	Powerking89670: clear	02:30
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Powerking89670	doh, that was obvious	02:30
Yorokobi	Powerking89670, or Ctrl-l	02:30
Powerking89670	thank you :D the hot chick backround was coverd with text...	02:30
Powerking89670	(I have it set to transparent)	02:30
dwidmann	Powerking89670: all of them are obvious, but when there are hundreds to dig through it makes things hard to find obvious or not	02:30
Arwen	Powerking89670, clear or clear_console	02:30
chemicalvamp	t3hwiz0rd, the easy way is to get knetworkmanager	02:30
dwidmann	Arwen:	02:31
dwidmann	dustin@terra:~$ clear_console	02:31
dwidmann	clear_console: terminal is not a console	02:31
Powerking89670	thats true dwidmann	02:31
dwidmann	most of the time that one won't help ...	02:31
Arwen	dwidmann, yes	02:31
Arwen	dwidmann, well, he said to clear the console...	02:31
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: is it true that laptops that use the ipw3945 driver have support out-of-box?	02:31
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chemicalvamp	what linux distro?	02:32
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: kubuntu edgy 6.10	02:32
dwidmann	arwen:point goes to you	02:33
chemicalvamp	does it say "no usable wireless device" and exit right away?	02:33
Arwen	dwidmann, hehe	02:33
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: nope, it can even see it	02:33
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: as i said wireless assistant even picks up my network	02:33
t3hwiz0rd	just wont let me connect	02:33
chemicalvamp	ahh get the same problem	02:33
t3hwiz0rd	and also where are the power management tools that used to be in kcontrol? its got my processors throttled down	02:33
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dwidmann	t3hwiz0rd: if you have a godly internet connection and dont' mind downloading another cd, you could always try the feisty fawn beta and see if it works in it.	02:34
t3hwiz0rd	dwidmann: i don't want to update when the device clearly works.	02:34
Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd, clearly, it isn't though ...	02:34
t3hwiz0rd	dwidmann: i just want some assistance on getting it to connect.	02:34
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chemicalvamp	t3hwiz0rd, if you want a conection manager that will automaticly aquire an IP, AND connect it for you on startup.. get Knetwork config	02:34
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: working on that, apt is in the middle of dist-upgrade lol	02:35
chemicalvamp	mine only works if i do a manual set-up	02:35
chemicalvamp	yeah that will solve your problem	02:35
chemicalvamp	your running a laptop im guessing?	02:35
dwidmann	Ouch, I've got a 300+mb upgrade sitting in front of me :(	02:35
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: yes	02:35
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chemicalvamp	t3hwiz0rd what is it?	02:36
jhutchins	Anybody running a netgear wg111t?	02:36
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: asus a8jm, it has good reports of "just working" on linux fro mwhat i read	02:36
zerothis	i had to compile a lot of packages from source to get my wireless working. then I used wlassistant to connect	02:36
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chemicalvamp	pentium or amd?	02:36
chemicalvamp	64bit?	02:36
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: core duo t2400 32 bit	02:37
jhutchins	zerothis: Yeah, that's what I'm reading.	02:37
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chemicalvamp	whats the comand to info on cpu? anybody?	02:38
solomon_	cat /proc/cpuinfo	02:38
Yorokobi	chemicalvamp, edgy or feisty?	02:38
jhutchins	Mandriva it was urpmi ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper -i .inf1, ndiswrapper -i .inf2, mdiswrapper -m and it was up and running.	02:38
chemicalvamp	edgy	02:38
chemicalvamp	i got a few words about feisty's wireless.. and none of them are very nice :)	02:39
johny454	Does anytone know a good ID3 tagger for Linux_	02:39
chijin	johny454: easytag	02:39
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jhutchins	Edgy if I unplug the dongle, the system locks up, which I think may be because of the ancient USB chipset.	02:39
johny454	Does anyone know a good ID3 tagger for Linux?	02:39
johny454	chijin: thanks	02:39
jhutchins	Amarok's a pretty good general collection manager.	02:40
verzonnen	my wireless worked out of the box on my laptop and PC, absolutely perfect	02:40
chemicalvamp	verzonnen, i upgraded my feisty thru chroot while running a edgy desktop cd, and still never got it to detect my wireless card	02:41
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verzonnen	chemicalvamp: I know it can be a pain, I did pick the card for the PC to make sure it worked under linux	02:42
t3hwiz0rd	does anone know what hte package is for ipw3945 driver in ubuntu repos?	02:42
eeanm	t3hwiz0rd: well its in the kernel ain't it	02:43
eeanm	now as to what happened to the ipw3945 daemon	02:43
eeanm	who knows	02:43
eeanm	(it disappeared in Feisty)	02:43
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chemicalvamp	verzonnen i thought about buying a new wireless card for this laptop, but then i decided hey, if it works on edgy perfectly fine.. whats the point	02:44
t3hwiz0rd	eeanm if it works then why can't i connect to it at all?	02:45
twiztr	StaticX, Otep, and NighWish tickets!!!	02:45
twiztr	YAY!	02:45
dwidmann	twiztr: where?	02:45
verzonnen	chemicalvamp: sounds reasonable to me	02:45
twiztr	Seattle	02:45
BluesKaj	!codecs	02:45
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	02:45
chemicalvamp	kinda funnt though.. when i did lspci in fiesty knew what it was, but it didnt work	02:45
dwidmann	crud	02:45
chemicalvamp	BUT when i do lspci here in edgy, it says its an unknown device.. and yet it works	02:46
dwidmann	Seattle is much far too long a drive from Virginia :P ... Probably 3 days or so ... too long indeed	02:46
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zerothis	when will fiesty be ready instead of 'development'	02:46
Yorokobi	zerothis: sometime this month	02:46
verzonnen	never ;)	02:46
chemicalvamp	well fixing the network bugs is just one step closer to a release	02:47
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Skrot-	zerothis: 19. april	02:47
dwidmann	verzonnen: well, have to do releases from time to time, otherwise you end up like, umm, gentoo or something	02:47
twiztr	I haven't seen a good show in way to long, because MSI and a few otherscanceled.	02:47
BluesKaj	Yorokobi: my Feisty install broke the kernel , couldn't get back to a prompt ...reinstalled edgy	02:47
verzonnen	releasing it and being out of development are two different things	02:48
dwidmann	twiztr: I haven't seen a good show ever really, but I'd take that one if it were closer :(	02:48
Yorokobi	BluesKaj: I hope you didn't lose anything that you needed in the process.	02:49
BluesKaj	Yorokobi: not really i still ahve all the real important stuff on the windows partition	02:49
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zerothis	ahha! i just found "pearpc" in adept. is that Darwin/OSX also or OX 9 only?7	02:50
chemicalvamp	for vmware what would wndows media center edition be considered?	02:51
chemicalvamp	its not on the list	02:51
hitmanWilly	chemicalvamp, xp	02:51
Yorokobi	BluesKaj: I can't afford to lose anything on my desktop box. It'd take me two weeks to get everything set up again	02:51
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zerothis	windows edition N would probably be better	02:52
Arwen	zerothis, HUH?	02:52
Arwen	Edition N is broken :-\	02:52
t3hwiz0rd	what does kubuntu use for power management?>	02:52
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chemicalvamp	do i need to have a seperate partition for the guest OS?	02:52
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: i got it conncted btw ;-)	02:53
hitmanWilly	chemicalvamp, no, stores it as a file on the HDD	02:53
chemicalvamp	cool, was it with knetworkmanager?	02:53
flaccid	how to install flash 9 on dapper?	02:53
t3hwiz0rd	nope	02:53
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: it didn't like my key lol	02:53
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zerothis	Edition N, yep, all those security flaws, broken.	02:54
chemicalvamp	manualy input your ip and such>?	02:54
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: what would i do to change my power settings now?	02:54
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BluesKaj	Yorokobi: I haven't had the guts to totally migrate to kubuntu cuz i know my curiosity gets me in deep trouble sometimes so I know I need a backup	02:54
BluesKaj	:)	02:54
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chemicalvamp	t3hwiz0rd what do you mean	02:55
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: the options in kcontrol to manage power are gone	02:55
Powerking89670	so who likes proxys? I hate them....im making a nice long list of them to blacklist on my friends IRC server...	02:55
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chemicalvamp	t3hwiz0rd by the way when you get tired of having to open wlassistant to cennect your wireless after every reboot, sudo apt-get knetworkmanager	02:56
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: knetworkmanager is installed	02:56
Arwen	zerothis, um, yes, WMP exploits no longer exist, but also, everything that depends on WMP and it's libraries also fail	02:56
t3hwiz0rd	it doesn't see my wifi tho	02:56
chemicalvamp	oh hehe	02:56
chemicalvamp	hmm	02:56
Arwen	flaccid, a) with a nick change and b) in multiverse backports I think	02:56
flaccid	a) negative	02:57
flaccid	b) package name?	02:57
t3hwiz0rd	no one will answer my question... what does kubuntu use to manage power options on laptops? it seems to be gone from kcontrol	02:57
Arwen	flashplugin-nonfree - I think v9 is in backports	02:57
Daisuke_Ido	why would i be getting no sound in zsnes now :\	02:58
Arwen	if you don't enable backports, you'll probably get v7	02:58
flaccid	t3hwiz0rd: acpi	02:58
t3hwiz0rd	flaccid: and its gui frontend?	02:58
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flaccid	system settings -> laptops and power	02:59
t3hwiz0rd	under kcontrol?	02:59
flaccid	kontrol -> Laptop Battery	02:59
flaccid	thanks Arwen	02:59
t3hwiz0rd	i don't see either	02:59
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flaccid	i'm on dapper and they are there	03:00
flaccid	maybe i installed them can't remember	03:00
verzonnen	flaccid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Unofficial_Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.29_Starter_Guide	03:00
chemicalvamp	t3hwiz0rd double click your batery icon in the sys tray	03:00
Arwen	as a side note, if you can't get a working one, you can just download them from adobe.com and put em in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins	03:00
billytwowilly	hey, anyone know of a linux interface to facebook? Like something to deal with messages?	03:00
billytwowilly	besides firefox/konqueror of course;)	03:01
chemicalvamp	err single click actually lol	03:01
Arwen	billytwowilly, ....facebook... grumble	03:01
Arwen	at least it's better than myspace.... grumble	03:01
billytwowilly	lol. It's a nice system. My friends converted me today.	03:01
t3hwiz0rd	chemicalvamp: knetworkmanager fails to load my wireless networks	03:01
t3hwiz0rd	in trusted and untrusted... its blank	03:01
Apollo^101	i just installed ntfs-3g but i am unable to write nfts partitions. what can be the reason?	03:01
Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd: it won't list them until you've successfully connected via knetworkmanager	03:01
Arwen	Apollo^101, do you mount them as ntfs-3g? and did you mount with gid=<fusegid>?	03:02
chemicalvamp	t3hwiz0rd huh, i bet you have the same one as whats on feisty	03:02
zerothis	apollo, you need to turn ntfs writing on	03:02
zerothis	there is a gui tool for that	03:02
t3hwiz0rd	Yorokobi: how can i connect to it?	03:02
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t3hwiz0rd	Yorokobi: it doesn't give me the option to find it or even connect	03:02
Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd: what happens when you right-click the systray icon for it?	03:03
flaccid	verzonnen: i'm not on edgy	03:03
t3hwiz0rd	it has just some bland options	03:03
t3hwiz0rd	wired network, options, help, quit	03:03
Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd: it should give you a list of wireless connection options	03:03
zerothis	appollo:the ntfs-config package provides it	03:03
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Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd: under Wireless Devices	03:03
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t3hwiz0rd	don't see anything that says wireless devices, Yorokobi	03:04
haffi	I have some trouble with screen resolution in KDE	03:04
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haffi	it only gives me two choices, 800x600 and 640x480	03:05
Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd: it sounds like it doesn't know you have a wireless NIC	03:05
haffi	but I want 1024x768	03:05
t3hwiz0rd	Yorokobi: well i am connected on it riught now lol	03:05
Apollo^101	arvid, i never mounted any thing. i have no problem with fat32	03:05
t3hwiz0rd	Yorokobi: any way to specify to it?	03:05
Apollo^101	arvid, how can i moount?	03:05
Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd: oh sure, make me pull out my laptop now :)	03:05
Arwen	haffi, is your video card working?	03:06
jaevel	what is better with networking, Ubuntu or Kubuntu? or are they the same?	03:06
haffi	yeah, everything was working	03:06
Arwen	haffi, if so, go specify 1024x768 in your xorg.conf (backup first, also, 1024x768????????)	03:06
haffi	I have an xorg.conf which I copied from my gentoo installation	03:06
Arwen	haffi, oh, if you have an Intel card, you might need 915resolution, dunno	03:07
haffi	and I was only setting a power saving feature when everything went haywire	03:07
Arwen	hmm, dunno then	03:07
flaccid	Arwen: flash is installed, however it does not work in firefox	03:08
sayers	Where does ubuntu automagicly install Java 1.6's JRE?	03:08
Arwen	flaccid, no? what happen?	03:08
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Arwen	sayers, nowhere	03:08
flaccid	nothing happen thats what	03:08
flaccid	how to diagnose. this is with firefox 2 on dapper	03:08
Arwen	flaccid, enter "about:plugins" in firefox, see if it's recognized	03:08
Yorokobi	sayers: the binaries for java go in /usr/bin	03:08
waxyfresh	can i get some help with this?:root@sleepless:~# kdesu adapt	03:08
waxyfresh	kdesu: cannot connect to X server	03:08
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flaccid	i only have libnull plugin	03:09
Apollo^101	Arwen, i never mounted any thing	03:09
t3hwiz0rd	Yorokobi: any answers?	03:10
Yorokobi	t3hwiz0rd: sorry, I had to get my laptop, set it up, then go help my wife with a couple of things.	03:11
Arwen	Apollo^101, well then... I wonder why you can't access your ntfs partitions? lol	03:11
Apollo^101	Arwen, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13960/	03:11
Apollo^101	Arwen, i never had problem with fat32	03:11
sayers	How do I remove somthing and save more space then using aptitude remove Name?	03:12
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Arwen	sayers, you can do "apt-get clean" to clean out the downloaded apps cache	03:12
chijin	fat32 is a pain	03:12
Arwen	also, you can do --purge, but that has a minimal effect (removes some stuff from /etc)	03:12
flaccid	i see my problem	03:12
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chemicalvamp	whats the copy command for copyin a folder, to another folder? (i gotta do it in sudo cuz im copying to a folder i dont have permission to	03:12
flaccid	damn ubuntu!	03:12
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Arwen	Apollo^101, where it says "ntfs", replace it with "ntfs-3g"	03:13
verzonnen	chemicalvamp: to copy the whole folder use "cp -r"	03:13
Ferojasrom	Hey, What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu	03:13
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chemicalvamp	sudo: cp-r: command not found	03:14
t3hwiz0rd	Yorokobi: if you could please /msg me your results	03:14
Apollo^101	ok	03:14
Arwen	chemicalvamp, cp -r	03:14
Arwen	:-)	03:14
chemicalvamp	ohh	03:14
t3hwiz0rd	Yorokobi: i need to go for a run to make sure i don't get fat	03:14
Ferojasrom	Hey, What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu	03:14
zerothis	off to configure pearpc	03:14
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Ferojasrom	What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu??	03:15
Yorokobi	Ferojasrom: there is no root password. The sudo password is your password	03:15
verzonnen	Ferojasrom: no password for root	03:16
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verzonnen	Ferojasrom: sudo su -	03:16
haffi_	sudo su - ?	03:16
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verzonnen	Ferojasrom: "then passwd root"	03:16
Arwen	haffi, that uses sudo to run su, which more or less creates a root shell	03:16
grego_	Hi all, is it possible to strip all binaries at once after compilation?	03:17
Yorokobi	Ferojasrom: or sudo -s (same as sudo su -)	03:17
Arwen	Yorokobi, it's not	03:17
Arwen	sudo -s = sudo bash, it doesn't create a login shell	03:17
Arwen	sudo -i is a closer interpretation	03:17
Yorokobi	Arwen: a bit nit picky today, yeah? :)	03:17
Arwen	Yorokobi, that's actually an important difference	03:18
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Arwen	Ferojasrom, if you have a good reason to make a rootpw, "sudo passwd root" is the right way to do it	03:18
Yorokobi	Arwen: you're right, of course, but the effect of the two commands is the same--superficially. You get to be root.	03:18
Arwen	Yorokobi, hmm, yes, but one creates a different environment which apparently some admins require	03:18
Yorokobi	Kubuntu doesn't	03:19
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Arwen	Yorokobi, ?? I just said that certain system admins want their true root environment... nothing to do with *buntu	03:19
Yorokobi	or, vanilla Kubuntu at any rate	03:19
Yorokobi	lol, I'm done	03:19
sayers	Anyone have any direct recommendations for KDE looks ?	03:20
Arwen	I'm done spouting nonsense too :-)	03:20
Arwen	sayers, beryl!	03:20
Arwen	or, what do you mean by looks?	03:20
Yorokobi	kde-look.org ??	03:20
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sayers	Arwen: Beryl is far from productive. it just looks cool	03:21
sayers	I mean like themes/colors	03:21
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flaccid	rightio i hacked that	03:21
flaccid	now for shockwave ?	03:22
flaccid	!shockwave	03:22
ubotu	Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave	03:22
flaccid	oh dang	03:22
flaccid	doesn't matter	03:22
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Yorokobi	sayers: I'm more productive with beryl. I mean, how nice is it to move windows around with Super+1-9 ?? Very nice.	03:22
sayers	I am not productve with it, it runs fast and all but just not good for use in a programming environment or every day use... or atleast thats what I think	03:23
Arwen	flaccid, hehe, blame adobe	03:23
Arwen	that said, Shockwave is kinda useless	03:23
flaccid	yes and blame adobe for making flash9 with alsa for sound	03:23
Yorokobi	yeah, to borrow from perl culture, tmtowtdi	03:23
Arwen	flaccid, what's wrong with alsa? alsa rules	03:23
flaccid	i use freebsd for desktop	03:24
flaccid	it discriminates against non-linux users	03:24
flaccid	and i need shockwave coz i'm a web dev	03:24
jaevel	anyone have problems with browsing windows networks file shares?	03:24
Powerking89670	night everyone	03:24
Arwen	flaccid, wine it is then, lol	03:25
flaccid	yeah i guess so, i'll wait till i need	03:25
Arwen	jaevel, I can't find mine since samba doesn't do nbnr over bcast, buyt...	03:25
flaccid	jaevel: no	03:25
Arwen	but*	03:25
sayers	jaevel: no but windows has problems :P , seriously though I think its how you set up the options	03:25
Apollo^101	thanks all	03:25
jaevel	oh...	03:25
flaccid	nbnr over bcast?	03:25
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sayers	jaevel: what are you trying to do?	03:26
jaevel	i cant seem to browse my network.. i see the workgroup but cannot see anything under that	03:26
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jaevel	well, reinstalling kubuntu	03:26
Arwen	flaccid, netbios name resolution over bcast packets	03:26
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jaevel	atm	03:26
flaccid	need to configure smb correctly and ensure its not being blocked by anything	03:26
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Arwen	basically, if you don't have a local dns server, Windows resolves hostnames by bcast	03:26
flaccid	NetBT you mean	03:26
sayers	reinstalling the Distro doesnt fix much.	03:26
flaccid	samba3 can support that	03:27
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Arwen	flaccid, oh?	03:27
flaccid	it needs to be configured however	03:27
sayers	In linux you will probably never have to reinstall the distro unless you dont know how to fix it at all	03:27
jaevel	i broke it pretty badly	03:27
Arwen	flaccid, elaborate	03:27
jaevel	thats my prob...	03:27
sayers	how did you break it?	03:27
jaevel	i broke the nic card	03:27
flaccid	read the docs @ samba.org	03:27
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sayers	nic card?	03:27
jaevel	i remove net-tools	03:27
jaevel	that killed the network card	03:28
sayers	oh hm	03:28
jaevel	no more internet	03:28
jaevel	hm?	03:28
sayers	it would be fixable for someone with experience,	03:28
jaevel	im sure...	03:28
sayers	but yeah once you dont have internet	03:28
sayers	no google	03:28
sayers	no easy fixes	03:28
surgy	hi	03:28
jaevel	i see...	03:28
jaevel	learned that the hard way i guess....	03:28
sayers	google in the wiki has it all	03:28
jaevel	i guess im gonna need some help getting samba setup correctly....	03:29
sayers	if you want to do somthing spend 5 minutes searching for it rather than an hour trying to fix what you broke	03:29
waxyfresh	anyone have a link to a .deb for vidalia?	03:29
surgy	anyone know of any good windows managers for carputers?	03:29
sayers	jaevel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29	03:29
jaevel	sayers: thanks...	03:30
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jaevel	i just installed ubuntu a week ago...	03:30
[BTF] Chm0d	how do i delete the panel in kubuntu	03:30
jaevel	learned alot so far....	03:30
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flaccid	i dont get why the flashplugin-nonfree package stores files in /var/cache and symlinks: ./usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt	03:32
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waxyfresh	how do i install a .deb	03:32
flaccid	dpkg -i ./file.deb	03:32
halebopp	Hola	03:32
chemicalvamp	hola	03:32
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chemicalvamp	que pasa	03:33
Arwen	flaccid, hmm, no idea	03:33
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flaccid	is /var/cache/* static or does it get deleted	03:33
Arwen	doesn't for me, maybe yours was broken? that said, try edgy or feisty - it'll work wonders	03:33
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Arwen	/var/cache is static until it's cleaned out	03:33
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flaccid	hell no	03:34
[BTF] Chm0d	can you remove the bottom panel in kubuntu? I know in gnome you can but when I right click on the panel I dont have that option in kde	03:34
flaccid	why should i have to reinstall	03:34
flaccid	dapper is lts	03:34
Arwen	because newer == better, didn't you come from gentoo?	03:34
flaccid	when is /var/cache cleaned out	03:34
flaccid	newer does not equal better	03:34
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flaccid	no	03:34
Arwen	when x program decides it feels like cleaning it out	03:34
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flaccid	i'm a freebsd user	03:34
flaccid	x program?	03:35
Arwen	yes, any generic program	03:35
flaccid	so you are basically saying you don't know	03:35
chemicalvamp	[BTF] Chm0d well i guess if its buggin you.. you could maybe ctrl+alt+escape it ;)	03:35
Arwen	unlike /tmp, /var/cache doesn't have any special meaning - but lots of programs clean out sections at times	03:35
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Arwen	flaccid, ^^	03:35
[BTF] Chm0d	:)	03:35
chemicalvamp	but dont ask me how to get it back lol	03:35
flaccid	that doesn't really inform anything	03:35
flaccid	you don't know what manages /var/cache	03:35
[BTF] Chm0d	not buggin me was just goin to have kiba-dock there dats all	03:35
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Arwen	flaccid, /var/cache isn't managed, the individual sections are	03:36
halebopp	Tengo Amaro 1.4.3 pero no puede reproducir mp3 que estan en red, la otra computadora tiene windows xp. Qu puedo hacer?	03:36
[BTF] Chm0d	ill just move it :P	03:36
Arwen	/var/cache/apt is managed by apt, /var/cache/blah is managed by blah	03:36
flaccid	well thats what im talking about	03:36
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Yorokobi	!es \| halebopp	03:36
ubotu	halebopp: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	03:36
Arwen	so, that brings us to the conclusion that /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree is managed by flashplugin-nonfree	03:36
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flaccid	what manages /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree and why is it installed there. if you don't know just say so	03:37
Arwen	or, since flash can't do anything itself, that means apt is managing it	03:37
flaccid	flashplugin-nonfree is the package. how does a package maintain a directory?	03:37
Arwen	it's not supposed to be installed there, something probably broke	03:37
flaccid	it is installed there	03:37
flaccid	as per the package contents of the .deb..	03:37
flaccid	eg. dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb	03:37
halebopp	Gracias ubotu	03:37
Arwen	flaccid, mine's in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree so I think you have a problem...	03:38
chemicalvamp	halebopp, si #ubuntu-es es muy beuno	03:38
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flaccid	Arwen: thats the symlink	03:38
Arwen	no, it's not a symlink on mine	03:38
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flaccid	you are not on dapper	03:39
flaccid	its a dif package	03:39
flaccid	i assume	03:39
Arwen	I'll check	03:39
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Yorokobi	this is why I use the installer from adobe.com ^^^	03:39
Arwen	flaccid, ^^	03:39
Arwen	it's really 2 files, no sense not doing a manual	03:39
flaccid	Yorokobi: shouldn't need to do that... shouldn't	03:39
Yorokobi	flaccid: I shouldn't need to use *BSD for good IPSec, but I do anyway.	03:40
flaccid	defeats the whole purpose of the packaging system...	03:40
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Arwen	flaccid, the package is just a wrapper around a script to fetch and run adobe's installer	03:40
Yorokobi	its flash ...	03:40
flaccid	no it snot	03:40
flaccid	not flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb	03:41
Arwen	it is, the package consists of a script with "wget <> && tar xzf <> && cp <blah blah>	03:41
Yorokobi	but it works	03:41
Yorokobi	so, who cares?	03:41
Yorokobi	Half of what I have installed I didn't use the debs for.	03:41
flaccid	Arwen: http://pastebin.ca/424862	03:42
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flaccid	Yorokobi: it will work until the /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree is removed	03:42
flaccid	Arwen: which package is this	03:42
flaccid	and what is the name of the script filename in the .deb	03:42
Yorokobi	lo que sea	03:43
flaccid	actually i see that in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir/	03:43
Arwen	flashplugin-nonfree (repository version at least, not seveas) - the script is the standard install script in all debs	03:43
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lauchazombie	hello	03:44
nam_	bonjour	03:44
lauchazombie	if i share some folder whit kpf	03:44
lauchazombie	what would be the rout to it?	03:44
lauchazombie	like , what should someone write in the web browser	03:44
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lauchazombie	to download the files?	03:44
flaccid	and you are referring to install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer-installer	03:44
Arwen	flaccid, actually, I take that back, I'm sorry - my system has install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz in /var/cache and the actual libraries in /usr/lib	03:45
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nam_	quelqu'un parle francais???	03:45
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Yorokobi	Who was having the CPU scaling problem with edgy? jaevel? jager? someone else?	03:45
lauchazombie	just spanish and some english	03:45
Yorokobi	!fr \| nam_	03:45
ubotu	nam_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	03:45
flaccid	Arwen: what does file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt return?	03:46
nam_	thank you obotu	03:46
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jager	wasn't i Yorokobi	03:47
junocdx	can anyone help me with aticonfig?	03:47
twiztr	I just got followed home by a police cruser...	03:48
twiztr	>.<	03:48
Arwen	flaccid, flashplayer.xpt: symbolic link to `../../flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt'	03:48
Arwen	but then again, /usr/lib/mozilla is a symlink to /usr/lib/firefox	03:48
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twiztr	Me = No license.	03:48
twiztr	Woud have sucked.	03:48
flaccid	and probably symlinks back to /var/cache/..	03:49
flaccid	this is ridiculous system	03:49
flaccid	looks like the package script calls the flash installer to install into /var/cache/....	03:49
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drew	i cant put anything in the source folder!	03:49
flaccid	i mean /var is for spooling, i don't know why ubuntu uses it for things like apache and libs..	03:49
drew	help!	03:49
flaccid	but then again there are lot of things like this in ubuntu that don't make sense	03:50
flaccid	some people will see /var/cache and think they can remove stuff in it to free space	03:50
Arwen	flaccid, not here... mine is physically in /usr/lib - I think the stuff in /var you're seeing is temporary junk, but maybe not - you have dapper after all	03:50
Yorokobi	flaccid: you'll find pretty much the same file structure in other Linux distros (RHEL, FC6, CentOS, Debian, etc)	03:50
drew	hey any one know why my roots are lokced out?	03:51
Yorokobi	Can you be a bit more precise, drew?	03:51
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drew	i cant put tarballs into the root folder etc/apt/sources.list.	03:52
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Yorokobi	drew: why would you want to do that?	03:52
drew	to install beryl	03:52
flaccid	Yorokobi: yeah i know. still doesn't make sense.	03:52
Yorokobi	That's not how its done	03:52
drew	yorokobi: how do i unlock it	03:52
flaccid	Yorokobi: it even contradicts man hier	03:53
Ace2016	maybe because /etc/apt/sources.list sin't a folder?	03:53
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flaccid	Arwen: um its not temporary as per my pastebin...	03:53
twiztr	drew: change the root passwd to something you know, and then log in as root and do it, though I don't recommend i.	03:53
Yorokobi	drew: why are you using .tar.gz's Are you planning on compiling from source?	03:53
Ace2016	just use 3v1n0's repo he the latest beryl from svn is there	03:54
flaccid	Arwen: and you keep dissing dapper. i know its shit, but its LTS	03:54
drew	yorokobi: yes	03:54
Yorokobi	drew: keep the .tar.gz's in your home dir	03:54
drew	okay how do i change thr root pass	03:54
Arwen	flaccid, well, it's what it is	03:54
flaccid	all this stuff pretty much demonstrate the unstable nature of ubuntu	03:54
twiztr	drew: one sec	03:54
Arwen	drew, you can use sudo -i/sudo -s	03:54
flaccid	i prefer a stable operating system, not a 'cutting edge' broken one	03:55
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cpk1	wait, the way ubuntu uses /var displays its unstable nature?	03:55
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twiztr	goto K>systemsettings>usermanagement>	03:55
Arwen	dapper is far from cutting edge.....	03:55
twiztr	clickt eh show system accounts checkbox	03:55
cpk1	edgy is far from cutting edge =\	03:55
Arwen	feisty is far from cutting edge for that matter	03:55
twiztr	click on Administrator mode	03:55
Yorokobi	So, I have a question of my own. What happened to the screen capture applet for KDE (in feisty)?	03:56
twiztr	double click root	03:56
twiztr	set it to active(or enable), set a password	03:56
drew	umm its blank	03:57
twiztr	type somethign in	03:57
twiztr	any password you want	03:58
twiztr	then make sure to click ok	03:58
twiztr	then go back to system settings, clickt he advance tab	03:58
twiztr	click login manager	03:58
Yorokobi	And people say gui's are easier? ^^^	03:59
twiztr	Yorokobi: I know what you mean...	03:59
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twiztr	gah, i dont remember how to enable local root login	04:00
Yorokobi	There's no need to set a password for root.	04:00
twiztr	hold down ctrl+alt+f2 and log in as root and startx	04:00
drew	that dint delp anyway	04:00
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twiztr	Now log in as root, and you have access to the root folders	04:00
twiztr	That's just how to get around the K/Ubuntu no root think.	04:01
twiztr	thing*	04:01
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twiztr	See you all in a few sec, I'm going back to my faithful command line, and irssi.	04:02
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obat	hello, I have a friend who was just moving files in konqueror when he hit a disk full error. Most of the files are in one of the two locations, but some are gone	04:07
obat	does anyone know if these files will exist anywhere?	04:07
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cyber-hazard	anyone tried the edgy -> feisty upgrade tool? I'm having a problem with it	04:10
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deeo	obat: that's not exactly possible...	04:13
deeo	obat: the files aren't modified until the copy is complete	04:13
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: yeah, I've used it twice now.	04:13
obat	deeo: you mean the files shouldn't have been deleted until they were copied?	04:13
cyber-hazard	Yorokobi: when I use it, I get all the way to the prompt that downloads the tool. Then it tells me to click finish to close Adept and start the tool. I click finish....nothing. close adept....nothing	04:14
Yorokobi	It should auto-start. I've had it hide behind adept before. I want to say that if you close adept it'll close as well (as it expects to be the one to close adept).	04:15
cyber-hazard	Hmmm, okay, let me try that real quick	04:16
obat	deeo: konqueror might act differently then direct command line, because I've looked for the files everywhere	04:16
cyber-hazard	Yorokobi: though the page says there's a bug in the tool and that you have to close adept	04:17
Yorokobi	I haven't run into that bug	04:17
cyber-hazard	negative, it's not hiding behind adept. not really sure what's going on =\	04:17
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: the thing that got me both times I used it is I didn't follow the instructions precisely. I missed a step (read over it).	04:18
deeo	obat: i'm certain of it. in fact, konqueror even compares the files after copy to ensure integrity.	04:19
Yorokobi	heh, I mean I read/skipped over a step	04:19
Yorokobi	gotta love English sometimes.	04:19
cyber-hazard	heheh, yeah. what step? cause the there didn't seem to be many steps involved	04:19
deeo	obat: the only scenario where files might be lost is if during copy they are deleted by an outside source	04:20
deeo	obat: in any case, you can use the find tool to search for the files on the command line: find / -iname "filename"	04:20
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: I think it was the Full Upgrade -> Apply, I didn't apply once and didn't full upgrade once.	04:21
cyber-hazard	ah	04:21
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Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: do you get the installer or just Adept's warning about it starting?	04:21
obat	deeo: okay, I'll try searching the whole drive for the files	04:22
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obat	deeo: thank you for the answer	04:22
cyber-hazard	Yorokobi: I just get the little dialog that opens a window on top of Adept, then I click through a couple dialogs where it downloads the tool (supposedly) to the tmp directory, then it says to click finish to close Adept and launch the tool	04:22
cyber-hazard	i never actually get to the tool itself	04:22
deeo	obat: to save yourself some time, you could always run updatedb first, then use the locate command	04:23
deeo	not sure if you knew that or not, so i thought i'd mention it	04:23
dotnick	does anyone know when the new-legacy drivers for the nvidia cards might be available?	04:23
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cyber-hazard	hehehe, something about the term "new-legacy" just cracks me up	04:23
AxlRose	if you upgrade something how can u step back to the previous version	04:23
dotnick	:)	04:23
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: the upgrade tool is a python script, if its still in /tmp you may be able to start in manually. Or you can upgrade the old-school way	04:23
cyber-hazard	Yorokobi: yeah, I looked in the temp, doesn't appear to be in there anywhere, at least not in a format i'd expect it to be in	04:24
Yorokobi	AxlRose: if you use Synaptic then you can search for the package, highlight it and then use Ctrl-E to pick from a list of previous versions of the package.	04:24
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AxlRose	Yorokobi: I use adept	04:25
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Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: old school method: Change every instance of "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "feisty" then run 'sudo apt-get update' followed by 'sudo apt-get -y -f dist-upgrade' and go get a drink or sandwich (or both).	04:26
cyber-hazard	i was reading somewhere that dist-upgrade is pretty unreliable though	04:26
Yorokobi	AxlRose: heh, use adept to install synaptic then start using synaptic. There may be a way to do it in Adept but I'm not familiar with it.	04:26
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: it can be	04:26
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cyber-hazard	honestly, I'm getting to the point where I might upload my files to my fileserver, then just wipe it out with the new version :P	04:27
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cyber-hazard	it's a work computer, so I don't keep much locally	04:27
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Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: that works just as well and is probably just as fast (at least for the initial install, not counting the upgrades)	04:27
cyber-hazard	yeah, i'll probably just download the beta	04:29
cyber-hazard	i wasn't running the 64bit version of kubuntu anyways, so it seems like a decent time to upgrade	04:29
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: did you use the 64bit repo to run the upgrader?	04:29
cyber-hazard	nope	04:29
cyber-hazard	running fulll 32 bit here	04:30
Yorokobi	okay, just making sure	04:30
cyber-hazard	company told me to so I could run their software, but.....yeah, I don't actually use their software much	04:30
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: XO?	04:30
cyber-hazard	pardon?	04:31
Yorokobi	nevermind	04:31
cyber-hazard	errr.....okay	04:31
cyber-hazard	:P	04:31
Yorokobi	your IP belongs to XO Communications. Granted, they parcel out a lot of IP space	04:31
Yorokobi	cyber-hazard: haha, I didn't mean XOXOX rotfl	04:32
cyber-hazard	lol	04:32
cyber-hazard	naw, I didn't think you did	04:32
cyber-hazard	as far as our IP, it comes from our T1, so i'm sure XO probably owns that network or something	04:32
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Yorokobi	My employer has a T1 from them as well. My former had a 100MB ethernet connection. That was fun.	04:33
cyber-hazard	lol	04:33
cyber-hazard	our T1 sucks. we have a cable connection for downloading ISO's and stuff	04:33
cyber-hazard	I'm usually on that	04:33
Yorokobi	Yeah, my DSL is considerably faster than T1	04:34
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Yorokobi	now I'm off topic ...	04:34
cyber-hazard	Uhoh	04:35
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cyber-hazard	quick, answer questions!	04:35
cyber-hazard	/cricket-chirp	04:35
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Skrot-	Hi, does http://www.vg.no make konqueror (3.5.6) a bit unresponsive and laggy for other than me?	04:41
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AxlRose	can anyone help me with a quick DOSBOX question	04:44
fignew	Skrot-: no major problems here	04:44
fignew	I don't have flash installed though	04:44
Skrot-	Seems a bit faster without flash	04:45
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waxyfresh	can i get some repo related help::http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331	04:46
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waxyfresh	is anyone in here?	04:56
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NightBird	I'm not in here	04:59
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waxyfresh	whys the room so slow?	05:00
hitmanWilly	maybe everyones stuff is working?	05:00
tulio__	or there are no doubts	05:01
waxyfresh	lol	05:01
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toferrado	How can I set a screensaver as my desktop background?	05:01
waxyfresh	so anyone have an idea aboute my repo problem	05:01
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kaner_	is there a way to invoke the new updater manually?	05:03
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MarcC	Is there a way to find installed packages I haven't used for a while?	05:04
hitmanWilly	kaner_, don't know about the graphical one, but u can always run apt-get update	05:04
hitmanWilly	kaner_, does the same thing, more or less	05:05
kaner_	well update will update the package list	05:05
kaner_	maybe your thinking of dist-upgrade	05:05
waxyfresh	marc deborphan or something like that	05:05
hitmanWilly	kaner_, yeah, that's it	05:05
hitmanWilly	kaner_, sorry, 10 things at once	05:05
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chemicalvamp	whats the command to check kernel version?	05:06
hitmanWilly	uname -r	05:06
fannagoganna	uname -r	05:06
fannagoganna	or uname -a	05:06
chemicalvamp	whats the difernce	05:06
fannagoganna	uname -a tells you ALL the kernel info	05:06
fannagoganna	uname -r essentially gives you the version info	05:06
waxyfresh	can i get some repo related help::http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331	05:06
kaner_	cool, i didnt know if the new little tool did something fancy	05:06
fannagoganna	no, nothing fancy	05:07
fannagoganna	it works, so no, nothing too fancy :)	05:07
kaner_	heh, it just seems like every release they have a new gui upgrade deal	05:08
fannagoganna	i would be thrilled if every new release had half the bugs of the previous one :D	05:08
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kaner_	i live for the bugs.	05:08
hitmanWilly	instead of twice	05:08
chemicalvamp	full upgrade in adept would get the newest kernel correct?	05:08
fannagoganna	it would yes get the newest one	05:08
hitmanWilly	the newest in the repos	05:09
kaner_	the newest one available to you atleast.	05:09
fannagoganna	although you could compile your own kernel if you wanted to	05:09
fannagoganna	it's not as scary as you might think	05:09
kaner_	not normally worth it though.	05:09
fannagoganna	it's relatively painless -- less painful than creating a gstreamer pipeline :)	05:09
chemicalvamp	NOO thanks lol, did that a few times when i used gentoo.. wasnt as fun as it sounded lol	05:09
fannagoganna	oh gentoo :(	05:09
hitmanWilly	kubu's easier, believe me	05:09
kaner_	it would actually be easier in gentoo	05:09
kaner_	i would say.	05:10
hitmanWilly	still a pita	05:10
fannagoganna	most people prefer to do things other than compile their OS the whole time :)	05:10
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kaner_	yeah i dealt with gentoo a little, but i dont like to wait for things to compile.	05:10
hitmanWilly	well, feisty has 2.6.20, so there's really no reason to yet	05:10
chemicalvamp	im sure my kernel is fine lol	05:10
kaner_	ubuntu seems to keep the kernals fairly up to date	05:10
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fannagoganna	the kernel is usually the only thing in your OS that runs well :)	05:11
hitmanWilly	i think kernel.org is up to 2.6.20.4 stable	05:11
fannagoganna	by well, i mean flawlessly	05:11
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fannagoganna	everything else, it's like free-as-in-clinic	05:11
fannagoganna	you get what you pay for	05:11
chemicalvamp	hitmanWilly, if i got 2.6.20 im guessing vmware wouldnt work?	05:11
hitmanWilly	dont see why not	05:12
hitmanWilly	if virtualization is enabled in the kernel, it should	05:12
chemicalvamp	uname -rcuz in adept the packages are kernel specific	05:12
chemicalvamp	oh ok	05:12
fannagoganna	well, also in Fedora	05:12
fannagoganna	for example, highmem, suspend, nvidia, etc.	05:12
fannagoganna	those are specific modified kernels i have seen	05:13
hitmanWilly	2.6.20+ has virtualization built in so you don't need kernel mods	05:13
hitmanWilly	i don't think anyway	05:13
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waxyfresh	whats the bennifit of compiling my own kernal?	05:14
jerry_	hj	05:14
jerry_	hi	05:14
kaner_	makes you a bigger man	05:15
hitmanWilly	waxyfresh, well, you can take out stuff you don't need, like support for other processors, telephony, video card modules, token ring support, etc	05:15
hitmanWilly	or compile modules straight in	05:15
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kaner_	which could make it boot faster.	05:16
waxyfresh	does that make the computer run noticible better?	05:16
waxyfresh	cool	05:16
hitmanWilly	depends	05:16
waxyfresh	!kernal	05:16
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:16
kaner_	i dont think on a modern machine it does	05:16
waxyfresh	is there a how to anywhere?	05:16
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waxyfresh	im on a old old box	05:16
hitmanWilly	i used to do it all the time, but i really don't see any noticeable improvement these days	05:16
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kaner_	i this upgrade is going to finsih and my systems just going to eat it.	05:18
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Skuller	hey guys...my friend just did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and rebooted...his login screen has changed but its still ubuntu desktop, any help?	05:19
hitmanWilly	Skuller, go to sessions and select KDE	05:20
kaner_	there should be a button on the login screen to change your session type	05:20
hitmanWilly	kdm will open the last opened desktop/WM	05:20
Skuller	ohh	05:21
Skuller	thas cool	05:21
waxyfresh	so noone knows whats wrong with my repos?	05:21
Skuller	hitmanWilly: thanks	05:21
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hitmanWilly	Skuller, np	05:21
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philphoto	what's a good utility to monitor CPU, mobo temps and fan speeds?	05:22
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hitmanWilly	philphoto, try conky	05:23
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philphoto	do I have control over speeds in conky?	05:23
philphoto	not that I have to, it's just a nice feature	05:23
hitmanWilly	philphoto, not that i know of	05:23
philphoto	thanks	05:23
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os2mac	is anyone having a problem with their video adapter after the dist upgrade?	05:26
Skuller	philphoto: glassmonitor in superkaramba shud do the trick too	05:26
toferrado	How do I install xwinwrap?	05:27
kitche	os2mac: did you get updated drivers when you dist-upgrade?	05:27
philphoto	I kind of like this conky from what I see. simple. except, how do configure the utility?	05:27
kitche	philphoto: by hand check out the conky website to learn more	05:27
os2mac	yeah but it's a weird problem...	05:28
philphoto	gotcha	05:28
os2mac	my screen after login is fine. it's the login screen that's wonky. it's set to 640x480	05:28
Skuller	!redmond	05:29
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about redmond - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:29
Skuller	!windows	05:29
ubotu	For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents	05:30
philphoto	ha ha ha ha	05:30
Skuller	lol	05:30
Skuller	!equivalents	05:31
ubotu	A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant	05:31
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os2mac	Kitche: any ideas?	05:32
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kaner_	hrm kinda scares me that there is a windows channel on freenode	05:32
Skuller	yea me too	05:33
Skuller	dint blve it first	05:33
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Megiddo	How can I find out what version of kubuntu is installed on a machine?	05:34
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Rade	I recently installed Dapper Drake, updated my sources.list, ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and now adept_updater shows that I need 35 updates. When I run the update tool it finds none. Any suggestions?	05:37
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kaner_	it will be in the /etc/lsb-release file	05:37
Rade	I thought maybe it just needed time to poll hte server, but this was since yesterday.	05:37
kaner_	if nothing else	05:37
Rade	It says edgy	05:38
Megiddo	Thanks kaner_	05:38
Rade	Ubunto 6.100	05:38
kaner_	np	05:38
kaner_	oh i was answering Megiddo	05:38
Rade	err 6.10	05:38
Rade	sorry	05:38
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kaner_	Rade: you could do 'apt-get upgrade', i think that pretty much does the samething	05:40
sayers	Good night all	05:40
kaner_	afaik	05:40
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Rade	The following packages have been kept back... then a list of what looks to be 35 packages	05:41
kaner_	you should be fine, apt knows what its doing	05:42
kaner_	i once thought i was smarter than it and broke sudo and about half of kde	05:43
hitmanWilly	kaner_, ditto	05:43
Rade	What's the app/tool that plays a default sound so I can work on configuring my sound?	05:43
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darryl_	any of you guys use nomachine for remote desktop into your kubuntu box?	05:44
jordan	can anyone help me figure out why my WMP54G isn't showing up in lspci?	05:44
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darryl_	anyone do desktop sharing?	05:47
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kaner_	must be the first upgrade that it didnt break my video drivers	05:48
kaner_	hot	05:48
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zeno_	?	05:52
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os2mac	what is the command to auto reconfigure x11	05:55
os2mac	dpkg-reconfigure x11org-x11server?	05:55
hawk_	how do i unzip a .7z file i have downloaded 7zip	05:56
Skuller	sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	05:56
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os2mac	does that do it autodetecting or does it require input?	05:57
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hawk_	!7zip	05:57
ubotu	Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression	05:57
kaner_	it autodetects if i recall.	05:57
philphoto	what was that other cpu, mobo, temp utility that someone mentioned other than conky? conky is a little quirky on my desktop & I'm going to have to learn a bit (willing to) to configure it properly. until then, I'm looking for something to monitor temps & fan speeds.	05:57
hawk_	ark will not open a .7z file	05:58
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robin	hay all, can i use win32 with kubuntu 64 bit?	05:59
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hawk_	i think you can do that as long as wine is 32	06:01
hawk_	but dont go on what i say	06:01
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dwidmann	robin: mind being a bit more specific?	06:02
kaner_	hawk_: mine does	06:02
robin	wins32 codecs	06:03
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robin	work wit hkubuntu 64	06:03
robin	?	06:04
pollyo	Hello	06:04
hawk_	nvm	06:04
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robin	been awhile maybe i am not saying it right	06:04
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robin	windwos codecs	06:05
kaner_	your saying it right, you want to use win32 codecs for like mplayer	06:05
robin	yes	06:05
robin	on 64 bit cpu, just bought it lol	06:06
kaner_	right	06:06
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kaner_	and it does work	06:06
kaner_	but i think you have to use 32 bit mplayer	06:06
robin	dont know lol	06:06
kaner_	or 32 bit whatever app your using	06:06
robin	just installer kubuntu 64	06:06
kaner_	yeah, im saying that does work, but you have to use the 32 bit version of the apps, i think.	06:07
sstchur	why would konqueror be (seemingly) stripping the styles out of a page?	06:07
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robin	oh ic	06:07
kaner_	try it though, im not 100% on it.	06:07
os2mac	OK, so why is my resolution at the login screen different than my regular desktop?	06:07
robin	so i need to add 32 bit source to source ist?	06:08
dwidmann	robin: the win32 codecs will only work in 32-bit programs, which can be run on 64-bit ...	06:08
nonuda_	yo guys, i have shared a folder (samba), but when i try to browse it from another box it said that i don't have the permission, how do i enable it?	06:08
robin	ok, thx you	06:09
os2mac	better question what is the Fiesty beta channel called?	06:09
Skuller	#ubuntu+1	06:09
nonuda_	ubuntu+1	06:09
nonuda_	!install	06:10
ubotu	Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate	06:10
dwidmann	robin: look for a thread called "WMV9 on AMD64" on uf, or you could use this, a script I wrote -> http:www.xnowherex.net/simple64	06:10
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dwidmann	program called mplayer32 that works well ...	06:13
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ravan	if i install kubuntu fiesty beta now, would i have to reinstall when fiesty proper is released?	06:16
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dwidmann	ravan: only if you're a clean install fanatic, in other words, no, you don't have to	06:17
ravan	if apt will take care of it, will my system be in exactly the same state as it would have been had i installed feisty proper directly(apart from the home folder)	06:17
ravan	dwidmann: ok	06:17
hitmanWilly	raven: should be	06:18
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Goontz	yeah	06:21
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Goontz	rofl...wrong window	06:21
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chipbuddy	hello chaps	06:24
Goontz	I like wearing chaps	06:25
chipbuddy	ass-less chaps?	06:25
Goontz	Of course.	06:25
nixternal	oh lord, how did I know that was coming	06:25
chipbuddy	actually... all chaps are ass-less... a college friend of mine would get annoyed whenever someone specifically mentioned the "assless" kind	06:25
Goontz	haha, I guess that's true...	06:26
chipbuddy	so question... ok for starters i'm a ubuntu user, but i like this chatroom way more than the main one	06:26
chipbuddy	ok so the question is, i want to get a music player... and i'm thinking it is going to be some gui one.. but should i try to use something text-based, like mplayer?	06:27
Goontz	Blasphemy!	06:27
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chipbuddy	which part? the gui... or using ubuntu on a kubuntu chatroom?	06:27
cpk1	amarok duh	06:28
chemicalvamp	loaded an xgl session and crashed at the same time as a shell - konsole window pops up.. any ideas?	06:28
chipbuddy	or am i going to hell for both	06:28
cpk1	you are asking in kubuntu =P	06:28
dwidmann	bah, too heavyweight, you should use ogg123 :P (just kidding altogether really)	06:28
cpk1	chipbuddy: however there is exaile which is an amarok clone that uses gtk libs	06:28
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Alonea	chipbuddy: if you want a small player I also use Beep Media Player along with amarok	06:29
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waxyfresh	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331 can i get some help fixxing my repos?i just updated them with source-oo-matic yet there still giving me crap	06:29
waxyfresh	im aboute to go all chuck norris on them	06:29
cpk1	if you want super duber lightweight use mpd I guess	06:30
ComputerHermit	lol	06:30
cpk1	waxyfresh: super duper even	06:30
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Alonea	waxyfresh: did you do the key commands it tells you to do in the file?	06:30
waxyfresh	hmmmm	06:30
waxyfresh	no	06:30
waxyfresh	brb	06:30
chipbuddy	alonea, how do you mean "along with"?	06:30
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Alonea	chipbuddy: oh, I use them both. Not that they actually work together. I use beep media player's alarm clock plugin. Just saying I use both.	06:31
chipbuddy	ah, ok	06:31
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Alonea	waxyfresh: yeah, there are 2 commands and then you just put in the Key number that is before each repo. If you are just using the basic source list (first 2 check boxes) then I think there is only one Key code.	06:32
mzanfardino_	how do I reload/remount my USB drive after it's been unmounted. It should mount automatically, but for some reason it's not	06:33
Alonea	chipbuddy: but amarok is really your best bet. Its quite nice.	06:33
cpk1	mzanfardino_: you need to know the dev point and then just do sudo mount /dev/sd*X /media/somefolder	06:34
Alonea	waxyfresh: basically just follow the instructions in your sources.list file.	06:34
chipbuddy	Alonea, i'm using gnome, so i'd prefer something that works with it... and i've used exaile before and i really liked it	06:34
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mzanfardino_	cpk1: hmmm... yeah, i know I could do that, but I thought there was a command that automounts that I could run manually	06:35
wolferine	how do I burn a movie in linux?	06:35
wolferine	anyone have a URL?	06:35
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hitmanWilly	!dvd	06:35
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs	06:35
cpk1	mzanfardino_: if its in your fstab then you can do mount -a	06:35
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BluesKaj	!codecs	06:35
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	06:35
draik	Where can I download/find fancy fonts?	06:36
draik	For OpenOffice	06:36
wolferine	so, where those for me?	06:36
hitmanWilly	wolferine, yes	06:36
wolferine	can you please re-read my question then?	06:36
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cpk1	wolferine: kmedia-factory should do it for you	06:37
draik	wolferine: Use k9copy	06:37
cpk1	err kmediafactory	06:37
wolferine	which does conversiion and burn?	06:37
mzanfardino_	cpk1: naw, that's not doing it. The drive is an external USB drive that automounts (generally). However, when I start my VM that captures the drives, they auto-dismount. Now that I've unloaded VM I'm expecting them to auto-mount again (I thought they used to but can't be certain)... I could have sworn I saw a command that would do that, but it wasn't mount -a (which I've tried to no avail)	06:37
cpk1	I think it takes care of conversion too	06:37
wolferine	nero-ish?	06:38
cpk1	open it up and try it out	06:38
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wolferine	i cannot	06:38
wolferine	i was looking for more a a URL about it all really	06:38
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cpk1	kmediafactory is pretty automagically if I remember correctly, otherwise use ffmpeg to convert to ntsc or pal and then burn using k3b or kmediafactory	06:39
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wolferine	can i use it in Gnome though	06:41
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klemen	hi	06:41
mzanfardino_	maybe I'm asking this the wrong way. If you plug in a USB device such as a memory stick or iPod, Ubuntu automatically recognizes the device and mounts it. What's the command that can force the usb bus to search for new devices and mount them?	06:41
klemen	how are u?	06:41
cpk1	... you can use any app in either enviroment wolferine	06:41
klemen	is there somebody who can tell me	06:42
klemen	how to	06:42
klemen	install xgl	06:42
klemen	on kubuntu	06:42
cpk1	i dont know, if I need to mount something thats plugged in I just mount it myself	06:42
hitmanWilly	!xgl	06:42
ubotu	Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects	06:42
klemen	sorry but i am newbie on linux	06:42
mzanfardino_	when I run lsusb the device is not listed.. is there a usb probe command?	06:42
wolferine	just doesnt show up in my menu	06:42
draik	klemen, what are you trying to do?	06:42
smileboot	is there a command that prevents the rolling bar coming up during install so i can see where the install is locking up ?	06:42
klemen	well i want to have a xgl desktop	06:43
mzanfardino_	since it's not showing up in lsusb, I'm assuming I can't mount it manually either... let me try	06:43
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klemen	that's all	06:43
hitmanWilly	!xgl \| klemen	06:43
ubotu	klemen: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects	06:43
klemen	thanks	06:43
klemen	a lot	06:43
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klemen	one more question	06:43
klemen	there is a problem with internet	06:43
klemen	so	06:43
klemen	when i was on windows vista or xp	06:44
klemen	or mac os	06:44
klemen	the internet was	06:44
klemen	3 -4 times faster	06:44
klemen	why is that slow there	06:44
klemen	on kubuntu	06:44
klemen	and ubuntu to	06:44
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waxyfresh	!pastebin	06:46
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:46
smileboot	so is there such a command?	06:46
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chemicalvamp	whats the command to get your video cards chipset info?	06:55
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dettoaltrimenti	is there a cd burning program on ubuntu that will automatically convert mp3s to wavs for audio cds?	06:57
wolferine	anyone have experience with burning a video DVD in KMediaFactory?	06:57
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chemicalvamp	how do i turn off UMA+Sideport and use JUST Sideport?	07:03
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chemicalvamp	crickets cherp	07:06
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wolferine	anyone have experience with burning a video DVD in KMediaFactory?	07:07
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draik	!font	07:08
ubotu	Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer	07:08
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nonuda_	!smbfs	07:10
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:10
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hansent__	has anyone tried the dist upgrade tool for the 7.04 beta? It doesn't seem to work on my instalation...	07:11
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chemicalvamp	hansent__, i have... didnt work.. save yourelf some time and burn a desktop cd	07:12
hansent__	mphhh.....	07:12
wolferine	!codecs \| wolferine	07:13
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hansent__	chemicalvamp: how did you start it?	07:13
chemicalvamp	hansent__ the updrage tool?	07:13
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wolferine	how about some help on codecs?	07:14
wolferine	the !codecs doesnt supply enough info...	07:14
chemicalvamp	hansent__ https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade	07:14
hansent__	chemicalvamp: yeah, it doesnt start automatically after the wizard in adept like it it supposed to. I dont knowis now what the binary is named or if its available from a menu.	07:14
chemicalvamp	what kind of codec	07:14
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chemicalvamp	hansent__ what archetecture do you have	07:15
wolferine	ac3, is that JUST an audio codec?	07:16
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hansent__	chemicalvamp: x86 (32bit)	07:16
chemicalvamp	hansent__ and this is in your repository? deb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ (next field) /	07:18
wolferine	chemicalvamp>i want to go from .avi to DVD	07:20
wolferine	which ever codec that requires	07:20
chemicalvamp	what player? have you checked the players website out yet?	07:21
wolferine	im not playing	07:21
wolferine	im burning	07:21
pollyo	wolferine: What re you using?	07:22
pollyo	are	07:22
wolferine	KMediaFactory	07:22
wolferine	Stream #0.0 : Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, q=2-31, 8000 kb/s : Stream #0.1 : : Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 192 kb/s : Unsupported codec (id=86020) for input stream #0.1	07:24
wolferine	looks like my audio codec isnt working...	07:24
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chemicalvamp	currently my video card is running UMA+Sideport how do i turn off UMA and only run sideport?	07:29
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pollyo	wolferine: Does kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins have anything to do with that?	07:29
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mp9	nejaci cesi ? :)	07:30
chemicalvamp	or know a good place to look?	07:32
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twiztr	A+ Training in so long...	07:33
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pollyo	wolferine: When you start your project does it convert the avi?	07:38
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macky	hi	07:46
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j__	Weirrrrrd	07:48
j__	Did anyone else have trouble here with their sound being crackly in Edgy?	07:48
hitmanWilly	macky just got kicked from ##linux for general asshatery	07:48
j__	I try messing with the sound in kde but it doesn't get better..	07:49
j__	Ha	07:49
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Alonea	that he did...	07:52
pollyo	wolferine: Wish I could have been more help. I was able to get Kmediafactory to use an AVI. Maybe next time I can help out.	07:53
pollyo	Have to run...	07:54
pollyo	BBL	07:54
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Ash-Fox	This is kind of sad, this is the 3rd time I wake up to find some guy in PM (from this channel) trying to 'sex me up' because he thinks I'm femae	07:54
hitmanWilly	lol	07:54
hitmanWilly	its IRC, what do u expect?	07:55
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Ash-Fox	I've ran many IRC networks, I expect people to behave decently.	07:55
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hitmanWilly	yeah, one can always dream...	07:55
Ash-Fox	I am generally in places where people behave decently.	07:56
Ash-Fox	But it's kind of annoying that people are harassing people here based on their percieved gender.	07:56
hitmanWilly	u get idiots everywhere	07:57
Iwonder\|too	bright guy	07:57
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Admiral_Chicago	Ash-Fox: that should never happen, if that occurs again, talk to people in #ubuntu-ops	07:59
Alonea	I am always assumed to be male. Its fun. but people in this channel? odd...	07:59
Ash-Fox	Admiral_Chicago, noted.	07:59
sheldonc	Ash-Fox: did they actually use those words?	07:59
Ash-Fox	No.	07:59
Ash-Fox	I just tried to define it as best as I could :P	08:00
sheldonc	Ash-Fox: then a simple inquiry ?	08:00
erikja	!qt	08:00
ubotu	Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications	08:00
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dwidmann	Hmm, the katapult amarok plugin doesn't seem to be working at all in feisty :\	08:02
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Ash-Fox	sheldonc, anyhow theres your answer. I'm going to get a drink.	08:06
twiztr	How do I install a tar.gz file?	08:07
twiztr	Ash-Fox: heh...	08:07
Ash-Fox	twiztr, tar.gz files are like a .zip file.	08:08
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Ash-Fox	They're just archives, not installers.	08:08
twiztr	I mean, its the src install for a program.	08:09
twiztr	Meh, one second.	08:09
Ash-Fox	What is the name of the program?	08:09
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twiztr	I am in the src file, and how do I make the makefile.deb	08:13
Ash-Fox	twiztr, What is the name of the program?	08:13
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chemicalvamp	!paste	08:16
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	08:16
twiztr	Nvm, I got it to work.	08:16
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twiztr	JohnTheRipper. I want to make sure my website isn't crackable.	08:17
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Ash-Fox	twiztr, please, just tell me the application name. It might already be in one of the repositories thus saving you a lot of work when you need updates etc.	08:18
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Alonea	nighty night dears. take care.	08:20
chemicalvamp	#beryl	08:21
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smile	good morning ..	08:24
smile	how to exit X server ?	08:24
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kumamoto	ctrl+Alt+Esc	08:25
smile	kumamoto: thx	08:26
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Admiral_Chicago	ctrl + alt + backspace :)	08:26
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posingaspopular	ohh Mez\|OnAir is on again	09:05
posingaspopular	Mez\|OnAir: play some 'gay bar' songs	09:05
abortd	hm	09:06
abortd	i wish i could broadcast music my connection sucks for uploading	09:06
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v0taguz	What is the new in Kubuntu Feisty ?	09:14
posingaspopular	v0taguz: magic	09:15
abortd	its kubuntu feisty....	09:15
posingaspopular	actually im not too sure	09:15
posingaspopular	but im sure it works	09:15
abortd	what do you mean what is it?	09:15
abortd	its linux	09:15
posingaspopular	better ishould say. ive only used xubuntu feisty	09:15
abortd	its ubuntu	09:15
abortd	7.14?	09:15
v0taguz	abortd: 7.04	09:16
v0taguz	:)	09:16
abortd	same deal	09:16
abortd	still what do you mean what is it?	09:16
v0taguz	I refer respect to KDE	09:16
abortd	?	09:16
abortd	are you from portuguel?	09:16
posingaspopular	v0taguz: you mean KDE4	09:16
posingaspopular	?	09:16
v0taguz	What is the new in Kubuntu respect to kDE	09:17
abortd	i stopped using kde	09:17
abortd	oh	09:17
gabrieldain	Is anybody having problems with the current version of Amarok?	09:17
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ice_	gabrieldain: what kind of problems	09:21
ice_	?	09:21
gabrieldain	Freezing and sometimes subsequent crashing, often right after starting it	09:22
posingaspopular	gabrieldain: you check the bugs or file a bug report?	09:22
gabrieldain	if I start i from a term, it says "Amarok it taking a long time to load! Perhaps something is wrong?" but no hints as to what is the problem	09:22
gabrieldain	No, because there is no bug, as far as I know. I cant say "It crashed" and nothing else	09:23
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ice_	am,... I belive that there is aspecial command to lauch "heavy" graphicl apps	09:24
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Mena	Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 195.114.19.35 80]	09:37
Mena	Why i get this when try to upgrade	09:38
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gabrieldain	because the file listing all the packages in that repository is missing	09:39
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Mena	so what to do	09:39
gabrieldain	Well, that means that repository is obsolete, so comment it out in sources.list	09:40
Mena	OK	09:40
gabrieldain	Although, I also have that repository, and I used it yesterday succesfully to install XGL/Beryl	09:40
gabrieldain	So I dont know what the problem is	09:40
gabrieldain	well, I do, but its not being consistent	09:40
Mena	OK	09:41
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shookie	whats poppin guys	09:45
shookie	can someone help me troubleshoot this samba issue im having	09:46
unix_infidel	shookie: just ask your real question.	09:47
unix_infidel	be as specific as possible.	09:47
unix_infidel	include a pastebin of errors, and the chan will do what it can	09:47
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pollyo	If I want to upgrade my system memory I have to spend more then the sytem is worth. lol	09:48
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Mena	Thanks	09:55
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pollyo	Is there an option like in windows to get the computers properties? CPU, Memory, etc?	09:57
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smileboot	Hi im trying to install ubuntu or kubuntu but everytime i try and boot from the cd or do a cd integrity check i get to the rolling bar then it just locks up. anyone know what i can do to either 1) find out the problem or 2) fix it?	09:57
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pollyo	smileboot: Have you tried safe video mode?	09:59
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carve	anyone here have time to answer a question I have about kubuntu?	10:02
pollyo	carve: Just ask if someone has time and/or the answer they will help.	10:02
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zouzou85	hi guys, when is kubuntu 7.-4 going to be out?	10:06
zouzou85	i mean the final release?	10:06
pollyo	zouzou85: Sometime soon it seems.	10:06
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pollyo	zouzou85: I've heard towards the end of the month if all goes well.	10:07
zouzou85	there is no set date?	10:07
zouzou85	I just thought there was a set date,	10:07
pollyo	zouzou85: I've heard 19th. Though I do not know if that is set in stone.	10:07
zouzou85	looking forward to it!	10:07
zouzou85	because there seems to be a bug in runit and git-daemon-runit in the beta version	10:08
pollyo	zouzou85: Have you made a bugreport?	10:08
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zouzou85	i am not sure it is a bug.	10:09
zouzou85	still trying to figure out if it was just a mal-installation	10:09
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pollyo	zouzou85: I suspect they could determine that if you made a report.	10:09
pollyo	zouzou85: I do not know enought about what you are saying to comment any further.	10:10
zouzou85	well, in fact, my fiance runs kubuntu, i use sabayon, so i haven't really had the time to check it	10:10
pollyo	Anyone know if there is a setting that will tell me my CPU type and speed?	10:11
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zouzou85	i used a superkaramba theme to check it	10:11
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carve	i'm having trouble installing WINE	10:12
zouzou85	how about uname -a in a terminal pollyo?	10:12
pollyo	zouzou85: I'm not a big fan of superkaramba I seem to get icons lost behind themes.	10:12
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pollyo	zouzou85: I'll take a look at that command.	10:12
carve	it installed and I unpacked the files with ARK but how do I get the program to open	10:12
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zouzou85	i am sure that command will give you the type of the cpu but not sure it will give you the speed	10:13
pollyo	carve: Wine does not have a windows desktop.	10:13
pollyo	carve: There is a filemanager of sorts.	10:14
pollyo	No speed....	10:14
pollyo	carve: Can't you install wine with Adept?	10:15
zouzou85	I am sure you can carve	10:15
carve	ive only been using kubuntu for a week now	10:15
carve	its all so new to me	10:15
carve	this is my first time using linux	10:16
zouzou85	have you used adept before?	10:16
pollyo	carve: I know that under K / Utilities it has wine options.	10:16
kumamoto	pollyo: I think #cat /proc/cpuinfo might give u some detail	10:16
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carve	how do i get to k/utilites?	10:16
pollyo	carve: K <--- The K at the left bottom of your screen by default.	10:16
pollyo	carve: Then utilities on the list.	10:16
carve	ok	10:17
zouzou85	go to (start) then i believe it is system!	10:17
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carve	i dont see it in utilities	10:17
pollyo	kumamoto: Thanks that shows it.	10:18
pollyo	carve: Did you install it with adept or apt-get?	10:18
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pollyo	carve: or did you download a package?	10:18
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carve	yeah I downloaded the package in the repository	10:19
carve	the sudo apt get install wine	10:19
carve	then I found the files and unpacked them in ARK	10:19
pollyo	carve:You shouldn't have had to unark any files.	10:20
zouzou85	carve, just go to k>system>adept	10:20
carve	k	10:20
pollyo	carve: I believe the install option should have unarched everything.	10:20
pollyo	carve: And set it up.	10:20
pollyo	carve: Go into Adept and search for wine see if it stated the app is installed.	10:20
abortd	what runs games real well?	10:21
abortd	does wine still suck?	10:21
pollyo	abortd: Depends on what you want to do with it.	10:21
abortd	run a 3d game?	10:21
zouzou85	i heard activeX is not well implemented in WINE	10:21
pollyo	abortd: You might want to install windows itself for a game.	10:21
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abortd	yeah well	10:22
wizard_	anyone know how to get knetworkmanager to not ask for wep every login? i told it to do so with kwallet but it still does	10:22
zouzou85	DIRECTX*	10:22
abortd	i dont feel you on that one	10:22
wizard_	and it seems to disconnect me at will	10:22
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abortd	zouzou85, ?	10:22
carve	I found it	10:22
carve	thanks alot for the help	10:22
zouzou85	DIRECTX is not well implented in wine, but openGL works fine abortd	10:22
pollyo	carve: Wine has a data base that list some applications that work and do not work on wine.	10:23
abortd	can i substitute it?	10:23
abortd	i want to run this dungeon siege engine	10:23
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carve	how do i look in the data base	10:24
abortd	you dont	10:24
CarinArr	i have a package that's badly broken, when i try to remove it it says i need to reinstall it first, when i try to reinstall it, it exits with errors.. what do i do	10:24
pollyo	carve: Load up your webbrowser and go to the wine homepage.	10:24
carve	ok	10:24
pollyo	CarinArr: Are you using adept?	10:24
abortd	isnt there a #winehq chan?	10:24
noiesmo	CarinArr, use sudo aptitude remove packagename	10:25
pollyo	abortd: There may be but if you are looking for what will or will not work they may direct you to the database.	10:25
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wizard__	does anyone know why knetworkmanager would continually reset a connection?	10:25
CarinArr	pollyo: well adept just says it got an error.. i tried with dpkg which is where it tells me to reinstall first	10:25
wizard__	every few minutes the connection times out and i have to reconnect it :-(	10:25
pollyo	CarinArr: Have you tried aptitude?	10:26
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CarinArr	pollyo: uhmm aptitude just interfaces with dpkg doesn't it	10:27
zouzou85	CarinArr, what is the name of the package?	10:27
pollyo	CarinArr: I am not 100% sure.	10:28
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noiesmo	CarinArr, aptitude has better package resolution and will offer downgrades in packages to fix problems generally	10:28
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wizard__	no one on knetworkmanager?	10:29
CarinArr	it's a package that's been converted from an rpm, so there won't be another version available to up/downgrade to	10:29
shookie	using kubuntu, i have set up a share. In windows i'm able to access the share machine via \\x.x.x.x\. However when i try to acces the shared folder \\x.x.x.x\sharefolder. It returns permission denied. I have followed three difference tutorials in ubuntuforums. And they have worked in edgy..	10:29
shookie	using feisty btw	10:29
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shookie	i have used smbpasswd -L -a and -e	10:30
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zouzou85	CarinArr, what is the name of the package? if i could know	10:31
CarinArr	zouzou85: awcommon, it's a licensing tool for autodesk maya.. unfortunately autodesk only distributes stuff in rpm so there won't be any support from there	10:32
zouzou85	I am asking cuz i have a similar problem	10:32
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pollyo	CarinArr: Have you attempted to remove it with aptitude?	10:33
abortd	gnome is angering me	10:33
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pollyo	CarinArr: To see if it gives you the same error ?	10:33
zouzou85	my problem is with runit, and yes i tried removing it, but it needs runit to remove it	10:33
zouzou85	and it needs runit to reinstall it	10:33
kumamoto	wizard__: I have experienced the same thing I think there is way of keeping but not sure how	10:34
zouzou85	so i am basically in a rut	10:34
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CarinArr	pollyo: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	10:34
CarinArr	and yes, it gives me the same message	10:34
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Mena	By accident The upgrader tool closed	10:37
Mena	is there any wrong if i made an update then an upgrade with terminal ?	10:37
Photon	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14010/	10:37
Mena	Bec the upgrader tool already changed the source lst	10:37
Photon	ok	10:37
intelikey	waw! Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages	10:37
intelikey	Fetched 3B in 4s (1B/s)	10:37
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Photon	i closed a file tab and i deleted the file	10:38
intelikey	how's that for a connection ?	10:38
Photon	and i am getiing this error in KDevelop	10:38
Photon	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14010/	10:38
Photon	now what should i do?	10:39
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intelikey	photon line 2 no rule to make blah. either no Makefile in that dir or the makefile is not usable try configuring it again.	10:41
pollyo	CarinArr: Is that from http://www.novedge.com/Suppo_Step3.asp?sType=2	10:41
Photon	ok i solved the proble	10:41
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Photon	problem*	10:41
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intelikey	hehhe i just can't get over that, "Fetched 3B in 4s (1B/s)" ;/	10:42
CarinArr	pardon pollyo?	10:42
pollyo	CarinArr: The package you were discussing.	10:43
kumamoto	I wonder is kubuntu looks good with Luxi Sans font or Dejavu Sans condensed	10:43
CarinArr	it's from autodesk	10:43
CarinArr	i converted it to a .deb using alien, but it must not have converted the scripts properly, so dpkg crashed during install	10:44
CarinArr	or didn't crash, exited with error code	10:44
intelikey	kumamoto try it and see. only you can say what "looks good" on your box.	10:44
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kumamoto	intelikey: bet i will just trying to see anyone else use any one of them	10:46
Mena	kumamoto, try this font http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Lcars-Fonts?content=49050	10:47
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Mena	fonts*	10:48
intelikey	font si	10:49
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kumamoto	Mena: nice	10:50
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intelikey	well i did install a game in wine and run it. conclusion you need modern equipment to do that. 10 year old hardware just wont work.	10:53
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wizard__	okay can anyone help me understand why stupid knetworkmanager loses its own connection repeatedly?	10:54
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Jisao	Do you know what date in April will Feisty be released?	10:55
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unix_infidel	if i use shred on a file on a usb drive is it as effective or less effective its on a non removable drive?	10:55
mrigns	19th	10:55
intelikey	wizard* !i i've never used it.	10:55
Jisao	tx. Looking forward to see if it will be usable with my hardware (edgy is not).	10:55
intelikey	unix_infidel shred = more or less affective ??? syntax error in question.	10:56
Mena	kumamoto, yea	10:56
unix_infidel	intelikey: what do you mean.	10:56
intelikey	DESCRIPTION	10:56
intelikey	Overwrite the specified FILE(s) repeatedly, in order to make it harder	10:56
intelikey	for even very expensive hardware probing to recover the data.	10:56
intelikey	unix_infidel that's what shred does. i don't understand what you are asking.	10:57
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unix_infidel	intelikey: no, i mean i have a usb flash drive and i'm using shred to "cover up my tracks"	10:58
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unix_infidel	i'm wondering if its more or less effective on a flash drive compared to a nonremovable drive.	10:58
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v0taguz	http://www.arrestados.com/arrestados_1_Bill_Gates.html	10:59
v0taguz	LOL	10:59
intelikey	unix_infidel ^Ch^D<F	11:00
unix_infidel	intelikey: ?	11:00
intelikey	exactly.	11:00
pollyo	unix_infidel: What does shred do?	11:01
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unix_infidel	intelikey: its 4am.	11:01
unix_infidel	its a simple question :)	11:01
adydas	owch	11:01
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intelikey	i like simple questions.	11:01
adydas	Anyone reccomend software for linux <> Ipod use	11:01
wizard__	can anyone help me more understand why knetworkmanager 1: does not remember my wep key even when told to, and 2: disconnects me constantly.	11:01
intelikey	most of the time.	11:01
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unix_infidel	pollyo: shred - overwrite a file to hide its contents,	11:01
unix_infidel	and optionally delete it	11:01
intelikey	just not at 4am	11:01
pollyo	unix_infidel: I see.	11:02
unix_infidel	time for some coffee :)	11:02
intelikey	yeah where's genii ?	11:02
CarinArr	\o/ managed to remove it	11:02
CarinArr	though it wasn't pretty	11:02
intelikey	unix_infidel i think "maybe" i see what you are asking. is it this. "can data be recovered more easily on flash cards as apposed to fixed disks?" that ?	11:04
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unix_infidel	intelikey: yea, based on the way flash drives read and write data.	11:06
intelikey	mmm k short answer is no. over written flash drives are not more easily "recovered" when over writen.	11:06
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unix_infidel	intelikey: thanks :)	11:06
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intelikey	austrojedi from AUSTRIA	11:09
intelikey	nice nick...	11:09
abortd	can anyone tell me why the top cmd is lying to me?	11:09
intelikey	about ?	11:09
abortd	says i only got 48 megs of ram free	11:10
intelikey	abortd cause the rest is cached and buffered	11:10
intelikey	free -h	11:10
intelikey	third line.	11:10
abortd	should i free it?	11:10
abortd	i can?	11:10
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abortd	?	11:11
intelikey	free -h \| head -3 \| tail -1	11:11
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abortd	?	11:11
pollyo	Can a USB flash drive be used for swap memory? Would that make a system faster?	11:11
intelikey	abortd sorry -m	11:11
intelikey	hehhe :)	11:11
abortd	you have me confused	11:12
abortd	what the hell are you saying?	11:12
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intelikey	pollyo not having swap would be faster... but to answer your Q yes. it can be used. you probably wont notice any differance.	11:12
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abortd	not having swap is faster?	11:13
pollyo	intelikey: Yes but the cost of memory upgrade appears to be more then the value of my computer.	11:13
pollyo	intelikey: The crazy part is a USB flash drive with 1 gig appears to be cheap.	11:14
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intelikey	free -m \| head -3 \| tail -1 <<< the first number is used the second number is free ram in Mb	11:14
intelikey	pollyo how much ram do you have ?	11:14
pollyo	intelikey: I supose it must be slower memory in a flash drive.	11:14
pollyo	intelikey: 256Meg	11:14
tarelerulz	Do any of you now a media player that would read say somefile 00r and see the rest as movie?	11:14
abortd	-/+ buffers/cache: 295 461	11:14
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intelikey	pollyo so you get into swap space how often ?	11:15
abortd	?	11:15
intelikey	abortd so you have 461M free ram	11:15
pollyo	intelikey: With all the junk I have loaded on this quite often.	11:15
abortd	why is top lying to me?!	11:15
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intelikey	pollyo then it might be a good deal for you... yes.	11:15
pollyo	intelikey: I suspect that if I offloaded some of the junk it wouldn't be so bad.	11:15
abortd	Mem: 774872k total, 739996k used, 34876k free, 16424k buffers	11:16
pollyo	intelikey: Though I think I might look at getting a $19 flash drive and see how that works out as sawp first.	11:16
intelikey	abortd it's not. it's reporting the line just above what i just had you display. free -h \| head -2 \| tail -1 <<<< see if that doesn't agree with top.	11:16
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intelikey	eeeek sorry. not -h -k	11:17
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renato	hi, I am trying to copy some files into an usb key. as normal user it tells me it cannot do it as I do not have the permission to write into it, if I su and try to do chmod a+rwx it gives me no error but it does not change permission if I as root try to copy files over it gives me an error: cannot chown target directory.....what the hell?	11:17
intelikey	abortd free -k \| head -2 \| tail -1 <<< agree with top ?	11:18
abortd	can i uncache stuff?	11:18
intelikey	the differance is the "-/+ buffers/cache:" ram the system has allocated but not actually used.	11:18
intelikey	abortd no need. if the kernel sees something needing more ram it makes it avalable.	11:19
abortd	u said no swap is faster?	11:19
pollyo	How many writes does your average flash drive have before going bad? Anyone know?	11:19
intelikey	linux is not like that other os it uses ram in a totally different manor	11:19
pollyo	abortd: If you have no need for swap.	11:19
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intelikey	abortd yes if you don't need it but the system actually uses it then not having it would be faster.	11:20
abortd	i dont hink i do i have 700 some megs of ram	11:20
intelikey	that senerio is not likely to happen in linux ^	11:20
abortd	so can i just delete it and extend the linux partition?	11:21
abortd	so u always need it?	11:21
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iarwain	hi there, anyone know why i get 'failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant' when trying to start wpa_gui in Feisty?	11:22
intelikey	abortd i run one box with 256M ram and no swap. another with 96M and no swap. most people will tell you "don't run without swap" however some that have adamently steressed that "you must have swap" have checked and found that they didn't even have it and were not even aware of the fact.... thus unless you normally do more than you have ram for swap is useless.	11:23
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abortd	do u think i would need it?	11:24
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abortd	is there a partition tool for gnome?	11:24
iarwain	abortd: gparted?	11:24
abortd	just sudo apt-get it?	11:24
abortd	that the one on the live cd?	11:24
iarwain	abortd: what do you mean, on the live cd? (i never used a Gnome livecd ^^)	11:25
intelikey	abortd if you edit movies. of do lots of large high bitrate photo editing you might. normal users with more than 512 will never notice that they don't have swap if you turn it off without them knowing it.	11:25
intelikey	of/or ^	11:25
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intelikey	!gparted	11:26
ubotu	GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type sudo apt-get install gparted in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php	11:26
abortd	so it makes no difference it doesnt run faster either way?	11:26
abortd	i got it open now	11:26
intelikey	abortd not unless the "swappiness is too high" (not an issue for you)	11:26
iarwain	abortd: what do you mean, run faster either way?	11:27
abortd	so u can just turn it on and off?	11:27
iarwain	abortd: i didn't read all the way to your question ^^	11:27
intelikey	abortd yes.	11:27
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intelikey	abortd sudo swapoff -a	11:27
abortd	hah nice	11:27
toferrado	My USB Clone 180W audio device are not working on kubuntu. What should I do?	11:27
abortd	i did it with gparted	11:27
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intelikey	!sound \| toferrado	11:28
ubotu	toferrado: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	11:28
intelikey	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting	11:28
iarwain	anyone know why i get 'failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant' when trying to start wpa_gui in Feisty?	11:29
abortd	lets say u have crap for ram will the swap take the rams place if lets say u use 128mb ram stick and want to run stuff that takes 512 mb the swap will cover it?	11:29
intelikey	abortd one can turn swap off and remove the swap partiton then if needed at any time make a swap file on the main partition/fs	11:29
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intelikey	abortd yes but slow slow slow	11:30
abortd	im trying to figure out why totem is taking 7% cpu and swaps it with xorg	11:30
intelikey	iarwain #ubuntu+1 maybe ?	11:31
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iarwain	intelikey: thanks, gonna look there =)	11:31
intelikey	!feisty	11:32
ubotu	The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)	11:32
abortd	what day is the release the 7th?	11:32
intelikey	24 ?	11:32
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abortd	:/	11:32
intelikey	!schedule	11:32
ubotu	Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases	11:33
intelikey	second linky	11:33
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abortd	19th	11:35
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jeanmass	hello	11:36
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jeanmass	is it possible to syn kontact and google calendar?	11:36
ubuntu_ian	hi. How would i go about telling ubuntu that there are 2 identical graphics cards on the pci exprees motherboard?	11:36
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pollyo	BBL	11:38
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intelikey	!dualhead \| ubuntu_ian	11:38
ubotu	ubuntu_ian: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama	11:38
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ubuntu_ian	hmm lspci only lists one VGA adapter	11:43
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intelikey	lshw	11:43
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hendaus	somebody help me please	11:44
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nodesert	how can i include a head file from a directory (/usr/include) in c++ code	11:46
hendaus	anyone knows about amule?	11:46
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intelikey	##C or ##C++ maybe ?	11:47
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intelikey	or single hash i don't recall.	11:47
intelikey	i think there is an official #C++ channel	11:48
nodesert	i tried "/usr/include/sd.h" with -l parameter	11:48
nodesert	ok	11:48
nodesert	sorry	11:48
intelikey	not that we don't care. just that i don't know C	11:48
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tux	hi guys, need your help (again)	11:49
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tux	i get the error couldnt find the mime type or something all the time in kubuntu (6.10	11:50
tux	)	11:50
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user__	hi all	11:51
tux	does anyone know how to fix this error?	11:52
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tux	hello?	11:54
tux	i get the error couldnt find the mime type or something all the time in kubuntu (6.10) how can i fix that	11:54
tux	...	11:54
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tux	anyone home here?	11:55
keyo	yep	11:55
tux	ok	11:55
tux	i need some help with some stupid errors in KDE	11:56
tux	mimetypes that cant be found	11:56
keyo	ok, probably can't help u but i'll try	11:56
keyo	so what triggers the errors	11:56
tux	dunno it pops up every now and then	11:57
tux	especially when using konqueror	11:57
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keyo	mimetypes are icons i think	11:57
keyo	i'll check if they are, if so installing an icon set might fix it	11:58
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orange1	!MAC	12:00
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:00
keyo	tux: a minetype is basicly defining what type of file something is	12:00
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orange1	!mac address	12:00
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about mac address - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:00
orange1	how do i change my mac addy?	12:01
keyo	tux: is there a particular type of file it doesn't like	12:01
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keyo	does anyone know how i can restart alsa	12:05
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keyo	when i unlock my laptop from suspend or hibernate i cant get sound	12:05
keyo	tux: have you upgraded to the latest version of kde	12:06
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tux	no	12:06
tux	but it's fixed	12:06
tux	removed a file octet stream in my home dir	12:06
tux	and the error is gone	12:07
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keyo	i was going to sugest putting some settings in konqorer for oct stream	12:08
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tux	:P	12:09
orange1	c1\|freaky: ya there?	12:11
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dikti	halloo	12:12
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intelikey	was just reading "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlinedBoot" last section rc2 i understand why. but it's the exact oppisite of what i would do. and do on this box. reason. if something after 13 fails the user never knows unless someone dirrects them to the logs... when i boot a system i want to know what gets an [ok] and what gets an [error] ...	12:23
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unix_infidel	anyone know what it means when gpg says WARNING: Using insecure memory.	12:26
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intelikey	ram# world readable ?	12:27
se7en11	my new 17 inch screen wants 1280 x 1020 but i cant change higher than 1024 x 768 in system settings ????	12:27
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intelikey	!xorg \| se7en11	12:28
ubotu	se7en11: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	12:28
se7en11	ctrl+alt+backspace would do the same right intelikey	12:29
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intelikey	not exactly but generally close enough. but that's not going to help unless you reconfigure xorg first.	12:31
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intelikey	ctrl+alt+backspace is the ^C for Xorg while ?dm restart does also reset Xorg it rereads the ?dm configs as well. i'm not sure that ctrl+alt+backspace will do that. umm pretty sure it doesn't.	12:33
intelikey	how ever on that particular topic of intrest, there would be no change in the ?dm configs so it's a moot point for that purpose.	12:35
intelikey	</monolog>	12:36
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magnus__	do kubuntu have support for 'fiber' connection ?	12:36
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sYnie	after the last kubuntu upgrade, all my c++ programs don't work on machines with older kernels anymore. i always get a "FATAL: kernel too old". is there anyw ay to fix this?	12:50
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sYnie	till now, all my selfcompiled small tools worked on my older servers. but now, every single recompiled program doesn't work anymore.	12:51
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intelikey	libc6 version i suspose. i don't have the answer to your Q though. what did you "upgrade to?"	12:53
sYnie	i just dud a apt-get upgrade. but i can't remember which packages got updated	12:54
sYnie	did**	12:54
intelikey	sYnie if feisty ask in #ubuntu+1 you might get an answer... else. maybe someone in #ubuntu cause that question is not kde specific.	12:54
sYnie	oh, okay, sorry ;-) and thanks	12:55
intelikey	oh don't be "sorry" i'm sorry i can't answer.	12:55
intelikey	magnus__ i'm sure FO is supported. but i know nothing of networking..	12:56
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intelikey	did i miss anyone else ???	12:57
intelikey	if not i'll go back to reading....	12:57
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gelsen	Hello, I have a PPPoE over ATM connection. When my internet connection drops down I have to reboot my comp, to reconnect, what can be the cause?	01:01
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anti_pop	my ssystem freezes when downloading a lot..and i find this error in the log: 05.04.2007 12:48:02 localhost kdm_greet[5628] Internal error: memory corruption detected	01:05
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XVampireX	Hi	01:09
intelikey	anti_pop which release ?	01:10
intelikey	XVampireX	01:10
XVampireX	Can anyone please tell me what the package for the kde theme manager is?	01:10
intelikey	gelsen i have no idea.	01:11
XVampireX	The one that people can make unified themes with, so they load 1 file and it sets everything, color, style, window decoration, etc...	01:11
anti_pop	intelikey: feisty..but i foud this bug here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/47455	01:11
XVampireX	Any idea?	01:11
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intelikey	anti_pop ok.... and the feisty channel is #ubuntu+1	01:11
intelikey	!theme	01:12
ubotu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	01:12
intelikey	!changethemes	01:12
ubotu	[Ubuntu] Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu] For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu	01:12
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intelikey	XVampireX i'm still looking	01:12
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anti_pop	intelikey: its not a feisty problem but nvm	01:13
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XVampireX	intelikey: Oh, maybe it's in kde itself	01:14
XVampireX	Yeah it is :P	01:14
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limbo	hello	01:19
limbo	i have a little problem. i have a fresh install of kubuntu on my macbook. But i think its loked on optical sound. What shuld i do?	01:20
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intelikey	!sound	01:21
ubotu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	01:21
intelikey	check the trubble shooting page and see if it helps you any ^	01:21
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chijin	heh	01:22
chijin	just open kmix and open the switches tab and see if the digital is enabled	01:22
chijin	if so, disable it	01:22
chijin	shouldn't be any harder than that	01:22
limbo	a red light is coming out of where the minijack is suposed to be	01:23
chijin	then open the kmix and disable it	01:23
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limbo	what shuld be disabled?	01:25
limbo	line in as output?	01:25
chijin	my digital is iec958 output	01:26
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limbo	the the "red lamp" shuld be "glowing"?	01:26
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chijin	if you're using analog, then no	01:27
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jack	i've got the problem that when i am idle xorg's cpu load goes up to 100%.	01:29
limbo	http://bildr.no/view/53036	01:29
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limbo	there is a picture of how it looks	01:29
jack	and the desktop freezes then, no problem when i actively use any application	01:29
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chijin	limbo: with that exact audio chip (hda intel) i had to enable the head phone jack. it's disabled as default i think	01:30
chijin	limbo: do hear audio from the laptop speakers	01:31
chijin	limbo: do you*	01:31
cyt	I find that there is eth0:avah interface on my notebook. What does the 'avah' mean?	01:33
jack	hey can anybody help with my prob above?	01:34
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coty	can someone tell me how to get torrent downloads faster than 20 kb/s	01:35
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coty	im using ktorrent	01:35
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cntb	what is the analogous of windows daemon tools to mount iso in ubuntu ?	01:37
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orange1	cntb: when u find out - let me know	01:44
orange1	!iso	01:45
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ubotu	To mount an ISO disc image, type sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.	01:45
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orange1	cntb: found the answer for the both of us	01:45
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limbo	chijin: do you know how to solve my problem?	01:47
cntb	ty orange1	01:49
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chijin	limbo: well i googled it, i can't remember how anymore	01:50
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limbo	okey	01:51
JuJuBee	What is the command to mount a share on a server with a specific uid?	01:51
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JuJuBee	I tried mount -U myUID server.ip.address:/share /local/mountpoint	01:52
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nosrednaekim	has the second beta come out for fiesty yet?	01:55
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smile	hellom i hav a prblm with compiz	02:07
smile	i get gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images	02:07
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smile	and compiz.real: No composite extension	02:07
sonoftheclayr	smile: #ubuntu-effects	02:08
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jack	hey can anybody help me? when i am idle xorg goes up to 100%cpu load	02:08
jack	and the desktop freezes	02:09
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hanzz	hi.. where can i report upgrade bug? i click "close" instead of "report bug"... thx :D	02:13
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sskk	Hi.. I can't believe this.. during the partition resizing part of the Kubuntu install process I was hit by a power failure. I feared for my harddrive, but that's working just fine. However my machine has completely lost contact to the CD-drive. Not even the BIOS can see the CD-rom drive... Any hints at all ?	02:18
vain	sskk: it's fried :D	02:18
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sskk	argh - by why?	02:19
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klemen	hi everyone	02:27
klemen	is someone there?	02:28
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Riddell	klemen: plenty people are	02:28
klemen	aha	02:28
klemen	and so how are u?	02:29
klemen	riddell	02:29
klemen	another question	02:29
klemen	from where are you	02:29
klemen	?	02:29
Riddell	klemen: this is a support channel, #kubuntu-offtopic for chat	02:29
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reagleBRKLN	i have a kinesis keyboard, how do i figure out, assign my "super key"?	02:30
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klemen	ah so	02:31
klemen	then something	02:31
klemen	how to install xgl desktop on my kubuntu linu	02:31
klemen	linux*	02:31
klemen	????????????	02:31
limbo	my headphones wont work on my computer but my speakers work (Macbook). its somthing wring with my minijack port	02:32
limbo	wrong*	02:32
klemen	you have a mac book?	02:32
limbo	yes	02:32
klemen	sometnig	02:33
klemen	which model?	02:33
limbo	CoreDuo	02:33
limbo	2 ghz	02:33
klemen	screedn	02:33
limbo	not core2duo	02:33
klemen	sreen	02:33
klemen	oh	02:33
klemen	screen	02:33
limbo	13 inch	02:33
klemen	12''??	02:33
limbo	noe	02:33
limbo	Macbook	02:34
klemen	15?	02:34
klemen	17?	02:34
klemen	ah	02:34
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klemen	ok	02:34
limbo	macbook not macbook pro	02:34
klemen	i know	02:34
klemen	12	02:34
limbo	13	02:34
klemen	how 13	02:34
limbo	widescreen	02:34
klemen	nevermind	02:34
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klemen	how much did you paid for?	02:34
limbo	apple.com	02:34
klemen	ok	02:34
klemen	and	02:35
klemen	one more thing	02:35
klemen	isnt mac os x bether than linux?	02:35
klemen	kubuntu*	02:35
limbo	meh, i want to try somthing new	02:35
klemen	oh	02:35
klemen	you have an enspensive toyz	02:35
klemen	:D	02:35
limbo	i thought this was a support channel	02:35
klemen	expensive*	02:35
limbo	i know	02:35
klemen	yes that is but nevermind	02:36
limbo	it is a investment	02:36
klemen	yes	02:36
klemen	but that investment will be	02:36
JuJuBee	Can someone help me with mount -U syntax?	02:36
klemen	very cheap	02:36
klemen	in next 2 years	02:36
limbo	jepp	02:36
klemen	:d	02:36
klemen	i want to have one	02:36
Jucato	!offtopic	02:36
ubotu	#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!	02:36
klemen	but you know	02:36
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klemen	that is to inspesive for me	02:37
klemen	ok	02:37
klemen	wr will	02:37
klemen	we*	02:37
klemen	btw. www.ex-planet.com	02:37
sskk	limbo: consider parallels - then you can fairly easy experiment with linux (and windows) while you're still at home in your osx	02:37
limbo	i know	02:37
limbo	i dont like parallels	02:38
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Jucato	anyone familiar with DVF sound format? (Sony Compressed Voice Format)?	02:44
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zipper	So uhm, the last couple of times i've tried installing (k)ubuntu on a pc with windowsXP already installed, it have resulted in windows not being able to boot up. Grub works fine, and windows start loading, but it fails starting up with an error about having trouble finding some file. What gives?	02:46
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cntb	how can I make edgy work with 7800gtx nvidia	02:53
zipper	cntb, i would recommend you grabbing the latest driver off nvidia's site	02:53
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CarinArr	then pray	02:53
zipper	and follow the guide on ubuntu forums/ubuntu wiki	02:53
cntb	zipper right pray	02:53
CarinArr	cntb: in edgy !envy is a good tool to install latest nvidia drivers	02:53
cntb	windows part was not easy	02:54
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genii	dwidmann and pizza	02:54
zipper	CarinArr, is envy like automatix?	02:54
zipper	if so, be careful using it. It's awesome when it works, but when it doesnt.... sigh	02:55
dwidmann	genii: hahaha	02:55
dwidmann	zipper: no, not really	02:55
CarinArr	zipper: don't know what automatix is, but basically it finds the latest drivers depending on what card you have, and install them while making sure there aren't any leftovers from other drivers in your ystem	02:55
dwidmann	!automatix > carinarr	02:55
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CarinArr	i don't think envy would be any more disastrous if it goes wrong than it would be using the nvidia installer	02:55
CarinArr	can't see why it would	02:56
zipper	CarinArr, doesnt seem like it the way you're describing it	02:56
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dwidmann	envy is essentially using the nvidia installer, without having to use the nvidia installer (read as: autopilot)	02:56
CarinArr	i just installed fesity the other day and realised there's no envy for it yet.. shock and horror i had to go back to using the nvidia installer	02:57
CarinArr	feisty too	02:58
dwidmann	CarinArr: the nvidia-glx package in the envy repositories is up-to-date	02:58
dwidmann	**in the feisty repo...	02:58
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cyt	Any stable tool to convert ntfs partiton to ext3 format?	02:58
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CarinArr	dwidmann: it wasnt always in the past though, so i've always avoidd using nvidia-glx	02:58
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dwidmann	CarinArr: it always is at release time, but after release it doesn't get touched	02:59
zipper	cyt, well, copy all your data to an already existing ext3 partition, and then copy back when you've made the ntfs partition to ext3	02:59
zipper	cyt, otherwise, no	02:59
zipper	and there probably never will be	02:59
cyt	zipper: thx ;)	02:59
CarinArr	dwidmann: aha.. doesn't really work for me then.. i'm beta testing a software and whenever something goes wrong the first thing to check is whether you're using the latets drivers	02:59
CarinArr	and i remember cleaning my system of the nvidia-glx stuff was a pretty annoying task on dapper	03:00
zipper	cyt, mind you, you could use any open filesystem (reiserFS, ext2, whatever) as the "backup" partition	03:00
dwidmann	CarinArr: that can also be a source of p roblems, especially for the devs if there would be multiple versions of the drivers in the repository. Besides, for the nvidia-glx package, you can always use lupine's repo	03:00
dwidmann	it's always up-to-date	03:01
CarinArr	mmm might look at it at some point	03:01
CarinArr	if i start having problems with the nvidia installer again;)	03:01
dwidmann	for future reference:	03:01
dwidmann	!nvidia9 > CarinArr	03:01
CarinArr	thanks	03:03
zipper	cyt, np btw	03:03
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cyt	zipper: :D	03:04
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cntb	CarinArr, http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/ koo	03:05
cntb	sorry know how to use it	03:06
cntb	sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ? CarinArr ?	03:06
CarinArr	hm?	03:06
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cntb	nvidia-glx seem to be on kernel 2.6.17-10-386	03:07
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dwidmann	genii: you wouldn't happen to have any wizardly advice on how to (properly) set up alsa for a 5.1 speaker setup would you?	03:13
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busfahrer	hi, one of my cd-roms automounts (with a symbol on the desktop), the other doesn't, how could I try to fix this?	03:14
genii	dwidmann Nah my specialties are networking and occasionally some specific hardware issue i've had to deal with already :)	03:14
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zipper	busfahrer, you sure that other cd works?	03:14
busfahrer	zipper: yep	03:15
zipper	busfahrer, tried ejecting and re-inserting it?	03:15
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busfahrer	zipper: I think the other one used to work too, not sure about that though.	03:15
busfahrer	zipper: did that	03:15
zipper	seems wierd that one cd automounts and the other one doesnt	03:15
dwidmann	busfahrer: sure it isn't the disk?	03:15
zipper	is it burned with some obscure filesystem or?	03:15
busfahrer	dwidmann: lemme try	03:15
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CarinArr	busfahrer: just the one drive or two diferent drives?	03:15
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zipper	So uhm, the last couple of times i've tried installing (k)ubuntu on a pc with windowsXP already installed, it have resulted in windows not being able to boot up. Grub works fine, and windows start loading, but it fails starting up with an error about having trouble finding some file. What gives? Could it have anything to do with me using MSDN's winXP with SP2, or me having windows installed on something else than C:?	03:16
busfahrer	damn it, it was the disk, I was sure it'd work. Sorry for wasting your time :-)	03:17
zipper	np :)	03:17
dwidmann	busfahrer: I've had plenty of trouble with it before, so I thought I'd ask	03:18
dwidmann	zipper: which file?	03:18
zipper	dwidmann, usch... if i could remember i'd tell you	03:18
zipper	might be xxxHAL.dll	03:18
zipper	its wierd... i've installed linux a dozen times without this happening	03:19
CarinArr	never happened to me either	03:19
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zipper	CarinArr, its not just me, one of my friends experienced the very same thing	03:22
zipper	installing completes successfully, and linux can boot. Windows however, cannot	03:22
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dwidmann	You say you don't have it on C:, windows hates not being on C, it also known to cry if it's not on the first partition of the first hard drive.	03:23
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zipper	dwidmann, i know, but uhm... Dont have enough free space to change that situation =/	03:26
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slestak	anyone know a way of determining what apps have used my ppp connection last? I dialed in w my laptop, and none of my apps seem to be able to connect, but I've had 5M of traffic logged by kppp	03:26
zipper	genii, i believe A: and B: is reserved for floppy drives :)	03:27
slestak	maybe a find for the newest modified or created files on the system?	03:27
CarinArr	eeeew vista	03:27
genii	zipper Yes, exactly	03:27
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zipper	dwidmann, hopefully in some satanic ritual	03:30
genii	dwidmann MS keeps sending 5 copies of whatever they produce to where I work. so they are laying around anyhow	03:30
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zipper	heh, i'm getting vista for free as well. Still sticking with Xp though	03:30
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dwidmann	and I'm not getting Vista at all :)	03:31
zipper	same	03:31
dwidmann	(Maybe I would consider taking it if Microsoft threw in a copy of Adobe Photoshop or something)	03:31
zipper	bad english of me	03:31
zipper	i get vista offered for free	03:31
CarinArr	i got vista free with my laptop	03:31
zipper	is what i meant	03:32
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dwidmann	Heh, odds are you both paid for it without knowing it.	03:32
slestak	i installed my free upgrade to my dell to dual boot. kind wanted to see, you know like when driving by an accident	03:32
david	hry	03:32
CarinArr	dwidmann: shrug possibly, didn't have much choice though	03:32
CarinArr	i gaeve it two weeksi had it installed fro two weeks alongside ubuntu berfore	03:32
CarinArr	er for gods sake	03:33
CarinArr	i wish my ssh session would stop lagging and i could see what i typed	03:33
zipper	dwidmann, actually, buying a dell with vista or xp is cheaper than buying it without an OS	03:33
dwidmann	I feel your pain ... my connection knows little else, mostly just lag	03:34
CarinArr	i had it installed alongside ubuntu for two weeks and i DID give it a chance.	03:34
CarinArr	it was just horrible	03:34
dwidmann	zipper: I know, it's sad.	03:34
zipper	sad indeed	03:34
dwidmann	You know what's cheaper still?	03:34
CarinArr	our router is messed up royally.. new one in the post by haven't got it yet	03:34
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dwidmann	my router setup is fine (hooray gigabit ethernet!), I'm just stuck with an awful internet connection :(	03:35
CarinArr	our router stalls all connections every few minutes	03:35
zipper	god i love windows networking... Its just like playing the lottery	03:35
zipper	can ping my machines, but i can no longer see shares, horray	03:36
dwidmann	hahaha	03:36
CarinArr	it's ridiculous when you're sat transferring files from the laptop to the desktop and the connection times out	03:36
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CarinArr	they're bloody 2 foot apart!	03:36
zipper	but i guess expecting it to work after a reboot was demanding a bit too much	03:36
dwidmann	CarinArr: that is sad, I'd use a crossover cable for that or something maybe ... if the router is acting up t hat bad	03:36
dwidmann	zipper: the almighty windows reboot didn't fix it :O	03:37
CarinArr	dwidmann: yeah i would if it was anything urgent.. can't be bothered messing with it now the other router is on its way though	03:37
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zipper	dwidmann, it actually broke it =/	03:38
zipper	dwidmann, i wonder if another reboot would cancel it out...	03:38
dwidmann	zipper: according to your lottery analogy, it might	03:38
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zipper	=)	03:38
slestak	ahh, adept updating package list when i dialed in, i think.	03:38
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zipper	sigh, and my ISP has started to charge me for a connection they have still to setup	03:39
zipper	great	03:39
zipper	its just my lucky day today	03:39
dwidmann	zipper: it's a sign that they love you	03:40
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zipper	dwidmann, no... them closing down their support lines for the holiday is them showing me their love	03:42
zipper	=(	03:42
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PeterPan^	is there a way to make a live cd of my 'installed linux' ?	03:43
dwidmann	PeterPan^: sort of	03:43
dwidmann	I forget where I saw how to do it	03:44
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genii	You can do a mkisofs of it then make sure the / and so on are mounted with iso9660 and so on before burning it	03:44
dwidmann	it was definitely mentioned here:	03:44
dwidmann	nnel ("Konversation terminated!").	03:44
dwidmann	[09:42] <zipper> dwidmann, no... them closing down their support lines for the holiday is them showing me their love	03:44
dwidmann	[09:42] <zipper> =(	03:44
dwidmann	crud, it didn't copy	03:44
genii	mkiso rather :)	03:44
dwidmann	http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/	03:45
dwidmann	there we go ...	03:45
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genii	PeterPan^: You may find some good info and pointers here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06	03:49
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zipper	ARGH	03:53
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zipper	god dammit	03:53
Daisuke_Ido	!ohmy \| zipper	03:54
ubotu	zipper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	03:54
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zipper	cmon, "god dammit" IS family friendly. I mean, by the age of 8, most have already seen murders and orgies on tv	03:55
zipper	or was that just me? :P	03:55
Daisuke_Ido	no, it isn't.	03:55
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PeterPan^	genii thanks	03:55
pixelation	I upgraded from Ubuntu to Kubuntu and I was wondering if someone could give me a safe command to purge the gnome stuff (especially the desktop environment) but I need the safest command possible. anyone?	03:56
Daisuke_Ido	afaik, there's no easy way to do so aside from removing packages one by one	03:56
Jucato	pixelation: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde	03:56
pixelation	ok.	03:57
pixelation	ok thanks.	03:57
genii	PeterPan^: :)	03:57
pixelation	so, is it safe to do "remove gtk-desktop"?	03:57
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dwidmann	PeterPan^: I think I found it http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/09/customizing_ubuntu_live_cd_606_1.html. That's the post I saw it in. Took me a while	03:57
genii	zipper I'm pretty sure it was just you :)	03:57
zipper	=(	03:57
PeterPan^	dwidmann thanks	03:58
pixelation	Ohh, that link is perfect, thanks.	03:58
zipper	dwidmann, lol, 3 reboots fixed it	03:59
dwidmann	zipper: hahaha	03:59
zipper	i can now see my shares again, horray	04:00
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zipper	better start copying while i can... so i can change my windows partition	04:02
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chuen	Hi. Can anyone give me a heas up on installing an app from a tar archive? I've checked and there are a couple of 'makefile.in' there in a couple of directories.	04:08
Jucato	!compile \| chuen	04:09
chuen	I know how to unarchive it - just not sure of installation commands or scripts.	04:09
ubotu	chuen: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	04:09
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chuen	Jucato: Ah. That's what I meant :) BTW, happened upon your website the oether day.	04:10
Jucato	chuen: oh? hehe :)	04:10
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chuen	Jucato: Gonna read it again - then make some mods to desktop etc.	04:11
Jucato	have fun tweaking your stuff :)	04:11
chuen	Jucato: Will do. ttyl.	04:12
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eagles0513875	hey guys can anyone explain or help me with something	04:12
Jucato	genii: ey it slipped and spilled over me :/	04:13
eagles0513875	every time i log into world of warcraft it seems like its dropping frames in the game	04:13
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eagles0513875	when i try and change the video settings it lock my entire system	04:13
eagles0513875	any ideas as how i can remedy that	04:13
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genii	Jucato Next time I'll bring it over and gently set it down then ;)	04:13
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koru	eeek	04:14
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zipper	eagles0513875, try using wine isntead of cedega. If you're using wine, try using cedega.	04:16
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eagles0513875	i already am zip	04:16
eagles0513875	im to cheap to use cedega	04:16
eagles0513875	lol	04:16
ubuntu	if posibble i would need help,have trouble to get my nvidia driver working	04:16
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zipper	virtual_mage, what exactly is your problem?	04:20
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kiwi__	hey everyone	04:21
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kiwi__	how do i download the newsgroups?	04:21
virtual_mage	did intall them whit envy,everything did go fine but when restart it dosent work	04:21
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virtual_mage	it load in console mode,did try to edit the xorg.conf file to put back the old nv driver but there is nothing write in the xorg.conf	04:22
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zipper	virtual_mage, dont know about envy, never used it	04:25
kiwi__	anyone?	04:26
zipper	kiwi__, well, you probably need a news reader. There are several, but two examples are thunderbird and evolution	04:26
kiwi__	kk	04:26
zipper	although i think kubuntu comes with a newsreader?	04:27
zipper	check under "internet"	04:27
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kiwi__	ktorrent?	04:28
virtual_mage	well the part i dont get is even if i use sudo nano/etc/x11/xorg.conf , there is nothing write in the files just like it did erease it all	04:28
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eagles0513875	virtual_mage: do u have a backup xorg.config	04:29
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rstanca	virtual_mage: try sudo nano/etc/X11/xorg.conf (case sensitive)	04:30
virtual_mage	unfortunatly not its my first time on linux so ,i do kinda make mistake lol	04:30
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rstanca	virtual_mage: sorry, typo, that`s sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf	04:31
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antony	salve a tutti	04:31
antony	chi mi risolve un quesito	04:31
eagles0513875	then there should be something in there if he made a typo	04:31
antony	che mi assilla da un po	04:31
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eagles0513875	!it	04:32
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	04:32
rstanca	!it > antony	04:32
eagles0513875	!it \| antony	04:32
ubotu	antony: please see above	04:32
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alain_	hola!!!	04:33
eagles0513875	!es \| alain_	04:34
ubotu	alain_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	04:34
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zipper	kiwi__, no, ktorrent is for torrents	04:35
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zipper	kiwi__, you might be better off installing thunderbird... its somewhat similar to outlook	04:36
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kiwi__	for newsgroups?	04:36
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sep1318	anyone have an idea on a reason or a workaround for the broken adept-common update?	04:36
zipper	kiwi__, yeah... and/or email if you want	04:37
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kiwi__	ok thnx	04:37
zipper	np	04:37
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sep1318	anybody know anything about the broken adept-common update?	04:39
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hugeta	hi every body, i want to upgrade my ubuntu to xubuntu 7.0 but idont know how	04:40
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kiwi__	zipper: i would like to download something binary for newsgroups	04:42
kiwi__	cannot use email	04:43
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hugeta	i have iso cd of xubuntu 7.0	04:45
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Tm_T	hugeta: well, 7.04 is not even released, so it's unstable	04:46
Tm_T	and not supported	04:46
Tm_T	hugeta: but if you are sure you like to upgrade anyway, then	04:46
Tm_T	https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade	04:47
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Tm_T	but I repeat, it's unstable and not officially supported	04:47
zipper	kiwi__, installed thunderbird?	04:48
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eeanm	hugeta: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade	04:49
eeanm	trash your iso, you won't need it	04:49
Tm_T	eeanm: hey, you like to repeat me?	04:49
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eeanm	pfft	04:50
eeanm	yea	04:50
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eeanm	sorry :)	04:50
Tm_T	)(	04:50
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hugeta	thank a lot eeanm is very very helping me......	04:50
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eeanm	haha	04:50
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eeanm	Tm_T: I get the credit anyways :P	04:51
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Tm_T	eeanm: sure you do, you're the young and attractive anyway	04:51
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Tm_T	that reminds me how little girls ran away yesterday when they saw me =)	04:51
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kiwi__	zipper:oh ok, i just got it, thought it was only for emails	04:53
chuen	Hi. I've been trying to install a new app. I've run 'configure' OK, but it looks like 'makefile' doesn't exist as 'make' is unable to find it. Looks like it hasn't been created. What should I do next?	04:53
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chuen	Jucato: Can you rescue me? :)	04:56
Jucato	chuen: hm... I can try	04:56
hugeta	how to install dual boot i want install xubuntu and windows xp sp2	04:57
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chuen	Jucato: OK. Am I right in thinking that 'makefile' should have been produced?	04:57
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Jucato	chuen: after a ./configure ? yep	04:57
chuen	Jucato: Does that happen during 'configure'	04:58
chuen	Jucato: OK.	04:58
Jucato	during/after	04:58
chuen	Jucato: What about maekfile.in and makefile.am	04:58
Jucato	chuen: hm... no not those, afaik...	04:58
chuen	OK. Thay are actually Makefile.in and Makefile.am to be precise.	04:59
Jucato	what's the problem?	04:59
hugeta	thank for adept its reeeaaaalllly working	05:00
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chuen	'make' cannot find anything to do! i.e. there is no 'makefile'.	05:00
emilio	hi need some help please	05:00
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kuwanger	Any idea on why I'd be told by kaffeine that the dvd protocol is unknown?	05:01
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Jucato	chuen: does configure end with "Good - now you can run make" or somethign?	05:01
Jucato	something*	05:01
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chuen	Jucato: Mmm. No, it ends with checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!	05:02
Jucato	chuen: well then... it means configure wasn't able to finish and create a Makefile :D	05:02
Jucato	chuen: install xorg-dev	05:03
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chuen	Jucato: Oh. OK.	05:03
eagles0513875	i just upgraded to feisty beta	05:03
eagles0513875	now i keep getting this msg and i cant update or download any pkgs E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	05:03
eagles0513875	how do i fix this	05:03
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grothesk_	Hi1	05:04
chuen	Jucato: Once it's installed. Should I run configure again?	05:04
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eagles0513875	!feisty	05:05
ubotu	The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)	05:05
Jucato	chuen: yesh	05:05
chuen	Jucato: OK, thx.	05:05
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chuen	Jucato: I should have RTFM :) It requires qt which seems to now be 'qt3' - is that correct?	05:09
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jarle	Anybody been able to compile nvidia drivers using Kubuntu Feisty?	05:11
Tm_T	eagles0513875: paste whole apt output to pastebin	05:11
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lenscape_	!kermit	05:12
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kermit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:12
emilio	i have a problem with adept	05:12
lenscape_	anyone know a half-decent serial tty console?	05:12
emilio	seems to have 1 update y tell it to update but it dont do it	05:13
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gabrieldain	is there a way to make KDE restore a sessions including open files, etc?	05:13
Yorokobi	lenscape, minicom maybe	05:13
lenscape_	emilio: what package is it saying needs updating?	05:13
eagles0513875	ok	05:13
grothesk_	emilio: Does adept_notifier show 1 Update, but apt-get update does not show an update?	05:13
eagles0513875	im backing up my data just incase i have to do fresh install	05:14
eagles0513875	Tm_T: im just going to do a fresh install	05:14
lenscape_	Yorokobi: thanks. I'll try it	05:14
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Tm_T	eagles0513875: err ok	05:14
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eagles0513875	i need to repartition anyway cuz i have to put windows back on	05:15
eagles0513875	which suxs balls	05:15
emilio	lenscape_: the package is adept-common	05:15
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chuen	Jucato: Do you know what this indicates? :	05:15
chuen	in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.	05:15
chuen	So, check this please and use another prefix!	05:15
emilio	lenscape_: i tell adept to apply updates it do some things but it still there	05:16
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grothesk_	emilio: Same here.	05:16
emilio	grothesk_: any solution?	05:17
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grothesk	emilio: No.	05:17
grothesk	I'm not even sure which package is ment by the une update being shown by adept_notifier.	05:17
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grothesk	adept_updater and apt-get upgrade do not show any updates.	05:18
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emilio	grothesk: i think is adept-common its the only one in my update list	05:18
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grothesk	emilio: Where do you get this list?	05:19
grothesk	Mine is empty.	05:19
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hugeta	guys if u want develope desktop app what do u used..	05:19
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hugeta	ussually i used vb 60 wih sql server 2000	05:19
emilio	grothesk: i click on the adept notifier the put the password, then press the button to look for the updates there is my list	05:20
emilio	grothesk: package: adept-common state:upgradable requested: no changes i change this to upgrade	05:21
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eagles0513875	whats the support like for 64 bit	05:22
Edulix	konsole: ERROR: can not execute ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh	05:22
jarle	hugeta: If you want to develop for KDE, C++ is the most used language	05:22
grothesk	emilio: This is empty.	05:22
Edulix	quake demo doesn't work in fesity	05:22
Edulix	!	05:22
jarle	hugeta: have a look at the kdevelop program..	05:22
eagles0513875	would there be a conflict if i put a 64 bit os on one partition and a 32 bit on another	05:23
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hugeta	not yet im totaly new linux	05:23
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Jucato	chuen: you have kdelibs4-dev installed?	05:23
Jucato	(sorry I was away)	05:23
hugeta	can java studio enterprise run in ubuntu	05:24
jarle	hugeta: http://www.kdevelop.org/	05:24
emilio	my real problem is to execute automatix2 it show that adept is running	05:24
Hobbsee	!automatix \| emilio	05:24
ubotu	emilio: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe	05:24
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fuel	is there some offline dictionary present for kde ?	05:30
fuel	!dictionaries	05:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about dictionaries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:31
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Yorokobi	fuel, use adept or Synaptic and do a search for "dictionary"	05:32
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hugeta	so java studio cant'n run in ubuntu	05:32
fuel	hugeta: why is that so >	05:32
fuel	?	05:32
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eagles0513875	does anyone around here work for ati lol	05:32
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eagles0513875	!ati	05:32
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	05:32
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hugeta	maybe i cant intall java studio IDE from adept	05:33
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hugeta	fuel can u help me	05:34
fuel	hugeta: you wont get them through adept	05:34
fuel	why do you need java studio ? i am just curious	05:34
jaevel	hi all	05:34
Najaok	Hey there... Is there a paket which allows me to limit the upload and/or download speed of certain applications?	05:34
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Yorokobi	hugeta, have you used eclipse? Its available for Linux and is found in the repositories	05:35
jaevel	anyone know how to enable the "choose desktop" at the login screen? i have gnome and kde installed but at the login screen it just askes for username and password? no option to change?	05:35
hugeta	i ussualy developt with java studio IDE. so if use ubuntu i just intall then i can work with java in ubuntu	05:35
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fuel	hugeta: ok hugeta ,	05:36
fuel	have you installed sun-java ?	05:37
hugeta	yes	05:37
fuel	hugeta: go to sun website and download the studio.	05:37
hugeta	but in my windows system in another notebook	05:37
fuel	hugeta: do you want to install on kubuntu or windows ?	05:37
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hugeta	but i can't how install java studio in ubuntu.im totaly blind. i can run adep from linux guy in this chat he he he he	05:38
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fuel	hugeta: ok , i am assuming that you want to install sun java studio on linux	05:39
hugeta	i want instal in kubuntu	05:39
hugeta	yes 100 % correct	05:39
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fuel	hugeta: first open adept	05:39
fuel	hugeta:add the proper repositories	05:39
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fuel	!repositores \| hugeta	05:39
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about repositores - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:39
fuel	!repository \| hugeta	05:39
ubotu	hugeta: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	05:39
noaXess	hi all	05:41
noaXess	wasup on the net?	05:41
jaevel	hi	05:41
fuel	then install sun java from the repository and then tell me	05:41
noaXess	what need i to install to watch mpg's from a windows share?	05:41
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hugeta	he he he he he i believe u .....it must be work	05:42
noaXess	!mpg	05:43
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	05:43
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x_link	So	05:43
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miki	hi	05:44
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miki	my kubuntu works on gnome :	05:44
miki	wired	05:44
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miki	how can o make KDE work ?	05:45
x_link	Install it?	05:45
miki	installd	05:45
miki	but shows a few erors	05:45
miki	when i type start	05:45
x_link	Then restart X and at the loginprompt you go to Sessions and choose KDE.	05:45
miki	OH	05:45
kuwanger	Well, I've got at least some more DVD stuff to work with libdvdcss, but kaffeine still doesn't work with dvds for some reason. :/	05:45
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miki	how do restart X ?	05:46
kubuntureign_	u can restart x by CTRL + ALT + Backspace	05:46
miki	cool 10x	05:46
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miki	where can i lern about keyboard shortcuts ?	05:47
hugeta	what the meaning of display manager	05:47
x_link	I think I will install Kubuntu now, which version do you guys thik I should install?	05:48
noaXess	hm... i can't install the "Ubuntu restricted extras".. but have upgraded to feisty fawn 7.04..	05:48
aaroncampbell	I'm going to be making a shared storage area for all the windows boxes on our network. Would it be good practice to make a new user, and share their home directory with everyone?	05:48
hugeta	fuel can u help me	05:48
hugeta	again	05:48
fuel	miki : alt+f2 ->kcontrol -> region and accessiblity->keyboard shortcuts	05:48
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noaXess	x_link: 6.10	05:48
x_link	noaXess: Alright...	05:48
fuel	hugeta: did you install java ?	05:48
miki	10x fuel	05:48
x_link	bbl when I'm done.	05:48
miki	!!	05:48
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noaXess	x_link: and if you want test beta then upgradeing to feisty 7.04.. there are instructions on www.kubuntu.org	05:49
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noaXess	its simmple to upgrade.. really good and cool upgrade tool....	05:49
hugeta	not yet i want upgrade to xubuntu 7 but in adep show warning only one dispaly manager ....etc	05:50
fuel	hugeta: first install java. then install xubuntu.	05:50
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smile		05:51
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smile	hi linuxians	05:51
hugeta	why i must "first install java."	05:51
kubuntureign_	hiya	05:51
smile	my problem is when i run Beryl i lose window decorators	05:51
smile	any help plz ?	05:51
kubuntureign_	humm	05:52
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fuel	hugeta: coz you need to install sun studio ?	05:52
fuel	x(	05:52
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kubuntureign_	i don't use beryl since will affect my gaming performance, sorry that i can't help on that matter :(	05:52
hugeta	ok i try now	05:52
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hugeta	but i want a know about configuring display manager what does it mean....	05:53
tom_	cool	05:54
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tom_	hi	05:54
wolferine	avi --> DVD, who has done it and is able to offer advise?	05:54
tom_	anyone	05:54
kubuntureign_	i did wolverine	05:55
chuen	Jucato: I 'll have to play with that compile problem another day.	05:55
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kubuntureign_	basically u need tovid and kmediafactory	05:56
wolferine	kubuntureign_, what codecs do you use?	05:56
chuen	Jucato: Something about KDE headers not being installed.	05:56
wolferine	think I am having issues with ac3, which I beleive is just the audio, correct?	05:56
kubuntureign_	tovid will recongnize the proper codecs without further issues, this is not windows ;)	05:56
razor__	heh	05:57
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wolferine	kubuntureign_, isnt ac3 the audio?	05:57
Jucato	chuen: hm... you missed my last question? did you install kdelibs4-dev ?	05:57
kubuntureign_	yes, indeed wolverine	05:57
wolferine	so can I just get an audio codec, then use kmedia?	05:57
kubuntureign_	i would suggest tovid	05:58
wolferine	k	05:58
wolferine	ill give it a look over	05:58
kubuntureign_	there is a how to made by me, let me dig the post	05:58
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wolferine	oh, well if you did your own howto, I am sure you know a thing or two	05:58
wolferine	doesnt come up in synaptic, have to compile from src?	05:59
kubuntureign_	http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080915.0	05:59
kubuntureign_	check that out wolverine	06:00
kubuntureign_	:)	06:00
wolferine	yeah, so do I need the source and compile?	06:00
razor__	the nv driver i'm using doesn't allow me to set my resolution at 1280x1024?	06:00
wolferine	razor__, use nvidia instead	06:00
razor__	the nVidia drivers seem to crash often which is why i'm using nv	06:00
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kubuntureign_	i rememebr that i installed tovid form adept	06:01
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wolferine	razor__, if you go to the Ubuntu Guide, you can get the latest nvidia drivers (so a search for Nvidia, it will come up)	06:01
kubuntureign_	must be on the universal repos thou	06:01
wolferine	yeah, i must not have that repos	06:01
razor__	i just uninstalled them.	06:01
wolferine	razor__, the latest?	06:01
razor__	yes	06:02
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razor__	well.. that supported FX 5200	06:02
wolferine	ok, did you run both nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings ?	06:02
razor__	yes, it set them up and crash.. then i tried to tweak it.. still crash	06:03
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wolferine	ok, did you do the nvidia-settings as sudo ?	06:03
razor__	nv driver is stable but 1024x768 resolution is yuck	06:03
razor__	yes of course.	06:03
wolferine	and did it edit the xorg.conf?	06:03
razor__	yes	06:03
wolferine	hmmm	06:03
wolferine	post it on pastebin?	06:03
razor__	the nVidia xorg.conf?	06:04
razor__	or my current?	06:04
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wolferine	the one causing the crashes	06:04
wolferine	if you have it	06:04
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kubuntureign_	this is a how to to install the nvidia driver using a diff method from milone or automatix	06:06
kubuntureign_	http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11324.15	06:06
kubuntureign_	just look for the post written by MepisReign	06:06
razor__	#pastebin	06:07
razor__	heh	06:07
wolferine	how would I track down a repos that does offer tovid?	06:07
razor__	sorry baby is crying	06:07
razor__	i'll have to get back	06:07
razor__	:(	06:07
wolferine	!pastebin \| razor__	06:07
ubotu	razor__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	06:07
kubuntureign_	let me check wolverine	06:07
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wolferine	kubuntureign_, those your screen shots?	06:08
kubuntureign_	all you have to do wolverine is open adept and uncomment the restricted repos,	06:08
kubuntureign_	yes those are my screenshots	06:08
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wolferine	im sure I have them, let me confirm	06:08
frojnd	I have one difficult question. How can I know what drivers are linked do xorg.conf, cause I've installed drivers from nvidia official web page, and than backup the xorg and after that I've installed nvidia-glx package. But I am not sure, that nvida-glx drivers are in used. So how can I check if there are nvida-glx drivers in use or drivers from nvidia web page ????	06:08
null__	hola	06:09
eagles0513875	!es null__	06:09
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about es null__ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:09
eagles0513875	!es \| null__	06:09
ubotu	null__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.	06:09
null__	er?	06:09
wolferine	frojnd, look at the Ubuntu guide, look for updating the nvidia drivers	06:09
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kubuntureign_	or the system is using the glx driver or the official driver it is impossible to use bith	06:09
kubuntureign_	both*	06:09
null__	im not spanish eagles0513875 :p	06:09
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frojnd	wolferine: what do u mean with updating nvidia drivers, I just need to know which drivers are in use, from nvida-glx or from nvidia page ??	06:10
wolferine	frojnd, it helps you to update the latest drivers	06:10
wolferine	which I guess is NOT what your looking for	06:10
frojnd	ok I just did	06:10
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frojnd	but that doesn't help if aren't nvidia-glx's drivers..	06:11
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eagles0513875	lol sry null_	06:11
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wolferine	deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse	06:11
wolferine	deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse	06:11
wolferine	not in those kubuntureign_	06:11
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kubuntureign_	humm	06:12
kubuntureign_	let me check	06:12
kubuntureign_	brb	06:12
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kubuntureign_	Medibuntu repos are the ones	06:13
kubuntureign_	u need to include the Medibuntu repos wolverine	06:13
\|lostbyte\|	huh, so is flash plugin 9 out in package ?	06:14
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\|lostbyte\|	i want its codec for mplayer.	06:14
Yorokobi	wolferine, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php	06:14
ahlalo_elyon	Anyone having problems with the new KDE updates?	06:15
\|lostbyte\|	!flash9	06:15
ubotu	Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash	06:15
\|lostbyte\|	!flash	06:15
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	06:15
\|lostbyte\|	!backports	06:16
ubotu	If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging	06:16
hugeta	fuel where r u	06:16
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hendaus	somebody help me please	06:16
null_	ok	06:17
wolferine	hey kubuntureign_ can I pm for a sec?	06:17
limbo	i have a problem with the new kubuntu beta. its a red light where the minijack is suposed to be. So my headphones dost work but me internal seakers work. What shuld i do	06:17
\|lostbyte\|	hendaus, ask, some one would know.	06:17
hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, thanx but i am hearing a song and the voice is not too high,how can i make it very high	06:18
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miki	hi	06:18
miki	linux rocks	06:18
kubuntureign_	sure wolverine, what do u need?	06:19
miki	:D	06:19
\|lostbyte\|	hendaus, On your panel there is a speaker icon. If not run "kmix".	06:19
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hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, yes there is an icon	06:19
\|lostbyte\|	hendaus, use it to set all your volumes.	06:19
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hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, i dont friend coz i am newbie	06:20
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kubuntureign_	im getting blocked wolveribe	06:21
kubuntureign_	wolverine*	06:21
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\|lostbyte\|	hendaus, right-click and show mixer window.	06:21
hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, ok then	06:21
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\|lostbyte\|	Your Master and PCM use them to see what works for you.	06:22
hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, there are output input and switches	06:22
\|lostbyte\|	Under Output.	06:22
limbo	i have a problem with the new kubuntu beta. its a red light where the minijack is suposed to be. So my headphones dosnt work but me internal speakers work. What shuld i do	06:23
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Yorokobi	limbo, click on the red light icon and switch it to green	06:23
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hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, yes those set to maximiun	06:23
Yorokobi	limbo, red == muted	06:23
N6REJ	good morning all	06:23
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vignesh	i am going to download the kubuntu vmware image.. If i install a package will it be persistent or do I have to install the package each time I use the vmware image ?	06:24
N6REJ	I have two issues early this morning. #1, when I come back in the morning after the system having been "sleeping" at night, I have no sound, logging off and back on seems to restore this. anyone have a reason why?	06:24
N6REJ	This did'nt happen before the last round of updates yesterday	06:25
hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, on windows when i make configure the sound ac97 there is an option 20+ boost that make the volume very high	06:25
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\|lostbyte\|	huh..	06:25
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N6REJ	#2 is that my webcam doesn't seem to have video.	06:25
[pyro]	hey guys, anyone know why my installer keeps crashing on xfonts-75dpi ? I have run cd-checker to make sure the cd is ok, and it is. But for some reason the cd gets read errors on this particular file?	06:26
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vignesh	anyone knows ?	06:26
[pyro]	im using the alternate cd	06:26
\|lostbyte\|	hendaus, There is a mic boost. but didt see an app lifer option	06:26
\|lostbyte\|	BRB..	06:26
vignesh	anyone used the kubuntu vmware image ?	06:26
N6REJ	[pyro] : do a md5 test on your cd. you may have gotten a bad burn.	06:26
\|lostbyte\|	Also make sure the player your using also has its sound on maximum..	06:26
[pyro]	N6REJ: how do i do the MD5 test?	06:27
N6REJ	!md5	06:27
ubotu	To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	06:27
hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, yes i see it on switches but there is no light	06:27
[pyro]	cheers :)	06:27
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N6REJ	:D	06:27
luckyone	can anyone help with this post - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2406299#post2406299	06:27
smile	i have windows installed and ubuntu .. how use VMware to run Win under ubuntu ??	06:27
vignesh	smile: why don`t u use the vmware image of ubuntu and run it ubuntu on windows ?	06:28
vignesh	u need the vmware server package.. install that	06:28
N6REJ	luckyone: have you verifed that that card works with linux?	06:28
smile	vmware server or client ?	06:29
luckyone	it is a WMP54g	06:29
vignesh	vmware server..	06:29
N6REJ	!hardware \| luckyone	06:29
ubotu	luckyone: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	06:29
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smile	vignesh: without ubuntu image ?	06:29
luckyone	N6REJ: yes, it is on the list of supported devices, supposed to work 'out of the box'	06:29
vignesh	smile: I am saying about windows on ubuntu	06:30
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N6REJ	luckyone: ok, then I would try fiesty first. It solved alot of issues for me.	06:30
smile	vignesh: can i install VMware by apt-get ?	06:30
vignesh	i don`t know..	06:30
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[pyro]	N6REJ: would this pick up errors that the standard cd-checker wont?	06:30
luckyone	N6REJ: fiesty is pretty stable for you then? perhaps I will upgrade tonight	06:30
vignesh	Download the .tar from vmware.com	06:30
smile	vignesh: ok .. thx	06:30
miki	!hardware \| edgy	06:30
ubotu	edgy: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	06:30
vignesh	smile: np	06:31
N6REJ	[pyro] : I don't know that answer sorry.	06:31
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[pyro]	N6REJ: im thinking ill just burn another cd and try it	06:31
hendaus	\|lostbyte\|, thanx friend :)	06:31
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vignesh	smile: have u used the vmware image ?	06:31
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N6REJ	luckyone: there are a few quirks, but there were over 123 upgrades over the last 2 days. USB devices didn't work for the most part in edgy, they do now.	06:31
smile	vignesh: no	06:31
vignesh	ok..	06:32
N6REJ	[pyro] : your image may be bad, best to test that first. Make sure you got a good dl.	06:32
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[pyro]	N6REJ: the cd i made that im having problems with i long ago deleted the .iso file. I have since downloaded a new one and thats what im burning	06:34
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N6REJ	[pyro] : you should run the md5 against that new iso to be sure its ok. Thats the only way of knowing wether or not you got all of the bits you need.	06:34
[pyro]	N6REJ ok will do	06:35
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llutz	hi	06:38
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[pyro]	N6REJ: yeah the iso checks out ok. I have just burnt another copy of the cd and verified it, it too is ok. Ill try an install with this one	06:44
N6REJ	gl	06:44
dromer	hi all, can somebody tell me if/how I can start an application as another user?	06:45
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dromer	I mean, when I don't know the pw of the user, but as root or sudo	06:46
llutz	dromer: su	06:46
dromer	ok, just su <user> ?	06:46
llutz	dromer: man su	06:47
dromer	yeah I was looking :)	06:47
dromer	didn't know it uses su for that	06:47
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dromer	ok, hmm, I can't resume the screen of another user though ..	06:48
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smile	can I find a hacker here ?	06:49
dromer	you are a hacker	06:49
smile	dromer: a small hacker	06:50
smile	dromer: :-)	06:50
dromer	a damn small hacker ;)	06:50
smile	dromer: damn ?? why !?	06:50
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dromer	search damn small linux	06:50
smile	dromer: in google ?	06:51
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dromer	sure, w/e searchengine you like	06:52
crazy_penguin	Hi all!	06:52
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smile	dromer: i found it .. and ?	06:54
dromer	hence the damn	06:54
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llutz	smile: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html ;)	06:54
dromer	llutz: DSL wasn't even far off considering the newest revisions ;)	06:55
PhinnFort	dromer: you got it wrong, it's LSD	06:56
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dromer	hehe	06:56
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dromer	Linux Small Damn?	06:56
llutz	".... lucy in the sky ..."	06:56
PhinnFort	it's french	06:56
dromer	haha	06:56
TFrog	anyone here have the proprietary ATI drivers loaded on a laptop here?	06:56
PhinnFort	Linx Smll Dmn	06:56
dromer	lol	06:57
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=== dromer still has some space left on his usb-stick, perhaps make a parttion for DSL?
PhinnFort	i have been wondering about partitioning my ipod to make space for DSL	06:57
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PhinnFort	since it doesn't look like I will have IpodLinux on it	06:58
PhinnFort	darn apple and their fancy encrypted firmware	06:58
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aaroncampbell	I'm trying to user samba to create 2 shares. One that EVERYONE can access...with no authentication required (like what happens with security=shared), and one that requires a username/pass (or requires you to be on a certain IP, or something)	06:58
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aaroncampbell	However, unless I set security to share, I can't seem to share without requiring auth. And if I set it to share, I can't seem to limit one of the shares	06:58
PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: and it doesn't work?	06:59
PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: do you use the graphical interfaces or manual editing of the config files?	06:59
dromer	< PhinnFort> i have been wondering about partitioning my ipod to make space for DSL << hahaha	06:59
PhinnFort	dromer: it already has like 3 different partitions;)	06:59
dromer	:)	06:59
PhinnFort	i dunno how the bootloader handles it if i partition it myself, though	06:59
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dromer	though portable music would be nice :( (sony mp3 discman has been dead for at least 2 years)	07:00
PhinnFort	dromer: it isn't bad, and it works like a charm with kubuntu, but I would very much like to play my oggs	07:00
aaroncampbell	PhinnFort: manual edit	07:00
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PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: have you looked here?: http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/	07:01
dromer	PhinnFort: yeah I'd get a MP3/ogg-player (though I don't have any ogg yet, filesharing doesn't really permit it .. (can't share any ogg on the dc++-hub I'm on)	07:01
PhinnFort	dromer: too bad, since OGG is superior;)	07:01
PhinnFort	i've ripped my whole CD collection to oggs	07:02
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PhinnFort	dromer: you could just rename the files to ".mp3", and as long as they have the ogg codecs, they shouldn't notice anything;)	07:02
dromer	ok, so I'm trying to open the screen of a friend of mine that's running irssi on my box, but when I sudo su <user> (I also tried with the -l flag) I get: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.	07:02
smile	hacking is not always bad if it's used with a clean mind !! what u think ?	07:02
aaroncampbell	PhinnFort: yes sir, I've been through HUGE portions of that...but it seems I can still only get it to do one or the other.	07:02
PhinnFort	maybe windows media player pops up a warning, but it should play	07:02
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PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: it's a long time since I've played with Samba	07:03
dromer	PhinnFort: lol, I don't think onyone has ogg-codecs on a default install ;) though if they have some codec-pack ..	07:03
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PhinnFort	dromer: K-lite comes with, afaik	07:03
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dromer	smile: what do you want to do? just ask around for the problem :)	07:03
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dromer	sure, go offline why don't ya :P	07:04
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PhinnFort	sorry, yakuake just killed my Xorg	07:05
PhinnFort	darn aiglx	07:05
PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: can you post your current samba config?	07:05
dromer	hehe	07:05
dromer	PhinnFort: don't run irc in x ;)	07:05
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PhinnFort	dromer: :P	07:05
PhinnFort	dromer: <3 Konversation	07:05
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aaroncampbell	PhinnFort: smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11345	07:05
dromer	PhinnFort: irssi <3	07:05
PhinnFort	:P	07:05
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dromer	screen \m/	07:05
aaroncampbell	PhinnFort: testparm -v: http://paste-bin.com/11346	07:06
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dromer	so, anyone on my 'su'-problem?	07:06
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PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: darn that config file was detailed;)	07:06
dromer	!su	07:07
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	07:07
smile	dromer: i just want make a safe website .. so i must try to hack my website ;-)	07:07
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dromer	smile: ah, yeah I'd like that to be done on my server as well soon	07:07
smile	dromer: ur server ?	07:07
PhinnFort	dromer: what's your problem?	07:07
Yorokobi	smile, http://owasp.org/ is a good place for website hacking tools	07:07
dromer	get someone to probe for weaknesses, which I don't have the skills for atm	07:07
PhinnFort	smile: should I root your server for you?;)	07:07
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PhinnFort	use nessus	07:07
PhinnFort	!nessus	07:08
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about nessus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:08
dromer	PhinnFort: c/p ; < dromer> ok, so I'm trying to open the screen of a friend of mine	07:08
dromer	that's running irssi on my box, but when I sudo su <user> (I	07:08
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dromer	also tried with the -l flag) I get: Cannot open your	07:08
PhinnFort	!info nessus	07:08
ubotu	nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB	07:08
dromer	terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.	07:08
dromer	oeps, sorry sory for paste :$	07:08
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PhinnFort	dromer: sudo -s	07:08
PhinnFort	mkay?	07:08
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PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: first, if you don't need it, i would make a simple as possible config file	07:09
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wolferine	aaroncampbell, you in CND?	07:09
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aaroncampbell	wolferine: CND?	07:09
tomboy	yo	07:09
PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_Samba#Configuration_2	07:09
smile	dromer: nice website !! but for what exactly ?	07:09
dromer	smile: what? on this ip? ohw for a friend, but I'm also runnig some other stuff on ssl that't I need ultra-super-secure	07:10
Yorokobi	Mr. Garriso--er, PhinnFort :) I think dromer is trying to switch to another unprivileged user. The command to do that is 'sudo su - otheruser'	07:10
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dromer	friend past away last year, kind of an electronic-memorial I'm trying to give him eternal cyber-life ;)	07:11
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PhinnFort	Yorokobi: if what he does doesn't work, he should sudo -s to root first, then drop to another user	07:11
dromer	Yorokobi: I've tried this already, but then I get: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check. when I try to open the screen this user is running	07:11
PhinnFort	was my idea	07:11
smile	dromer: ok .. that's nice . maybe i will need ya when i finish my website	07:11
dromer	PhinnFort: nop, same error	07:11
dromer	smile: what would you need me for? :P I can't probe for weaknesses :$	07:12
Yorokobi	dromer, you have a bigger problem then. What does 'ls /dev/pts/' return? Is there a 6?	07:12
PhinnFort	smile: if you want to probe for weaknesses, use some automated tool like Nessus	07:12
freexqf	i can't find the deb package for htmerge and htsearch	07:12
PhinnFort	Yorokobi: ls -l /dev/pts/6	07:12
freexqf	does anybody knows where i can find them?	07:12
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PhinnFort	i mean dromer	07:12
PhinnFort	;)	07:12
dromer	nessus?	07:13
dromer	ah, ha, ls ..	07:13
PhinnFort	dromer: ls -l /dev/pts/6	07:13
PhinnFort	:P	07:13
PhinnFort	check the permissions	07:13
dromer	ok, yeah .. hmm, seems to be my regular user ..	07:13
wolferine	aaroncampbell, canadian...?	07:13
dromer	crw--w---- 1 dreamer tty 136, 6 2007-04-05 19:13 /dev/pts/6	07:13
aaroncampbell	wolferine: nope	07:13
wolferine	i realize that, since you didnt know what CND was :P	07:14
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PhinnFort	dromer: you logged on as dreamer now?	07:14
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dromer	PhinnFort: no as root	07:15
dromer	I'll check using dreamer ..	07:15
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dromer	PhinnFort: same output	07:16
PhinnFort	hrm	07:16
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PhinnFort	dromer: ls -l /dev/pts \| wc -l	07:17
dromer	er: 8	07:18
PhinnFort	7 open then	07:18
dromer	what do you mean?	07:18
dromer	what does \| wc -l do?	07:18
PhinnFort	dromer: it counts lines	07:19
PhinnFort	dromer: i have two, my desktop session and my yakuake session	07:19
PhinnFort	i guess;)	07:19
dromer	er, sorry, I don't follow	07:19
PhinnFort	dromer: ls -l /dev/pts	07:19
PhinnFort	what users own them?	07:19
dromer	how many sessions there are? (what kind of session?	07:19
Yorokobi	'ls -l /dev/pts \| grep -c -' returns one less than wc -l	07:19
Yorokobi	dromer, 'w' or 'who' will show you all your TTY sessions	07:20
PhinnFort	Yorokobi: it only shows who is logged on, afaik	07:20
PhinnFort	i have several(2) sessions under the same user	07:20
dromer	PhinnFort: 4 by me, and 1 each by 3 other users	07:21
dromer	!tty	07:21
ubotu	To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).	07:21
PhinnFort	dromer: terminal thingies	07:21
dromer	ah	07:21
PhinnFort	when I log into KDE, i start another session	07:21
Yorokobi	TTY : Teletype	07:21
dromer	I have 3 open atm .. hmm .. apperantly another one somewhere ..	07:21
PhinnFort	when Konsole (/yakuake) opens up, it starts another tty session	07:21
PhinnFort	dromer: and it seems like you aren't allowed to open number 6	07:22
dromer	I have 3 consoles open atm, and gaim	07:22
dromer	perhaps since I'm running irssi in a screen? that's another TTY?	07:22
PhinnFort	dromer: 3 consoles + 1 desktop = 4	07:22
dromer	PhinnFort: I'm running #6 myself ... crw--w---- 1 dreamer tty 136, 6 2007-04-05 19:20 6	07:22
dromer	PhinnFort: X is a TTY by itself too ?	07:23
PhinnFort	dromer: i think it opens up one for communicating with the system or something	07:23
PhinnFort	but I really don't know enough about this;)	07:23
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dromer	oxk, but .. so .. hmm, why can't I open the screen of the other user?	07:23
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mzanfardino	alright, has anyone else had trouble with the latest update for adept-common?	07:24
PhinnFort	dromer: try ctrl+alt+f1 and login there and try	07:24
Photon	hi all	07:24
Photon	wats up	07:24
PhinnFort	Photon: the world is coming to an end	07:24
PhinnFort	mzanfardino: i'll upgrade now and see what happens	07:24
PhinnFort	feisty?	07:24
Yorokobi	dromer, in Konsole use Ctrl-Shift-N to open a new tab and try sudo su - otheruser again	07:24
dromer	PhinnFort: wtf, can't ctrl+alt+f1	07:24
Photon	i learned that u have to use linux for 3-5 days to learn and get used to it :D	07:24
mzanfardino	PhinnFort: edgy	07:25
Photon	hello world	07:25
dromer	Yorokobi: I don't have console on that machine, but BlackBox	07:25
PhinnFort	dromer: it should switch out of xorg	07:25
Photon	PhinnFort: loool	07:25
PhinnFort	!hi \| Photon	07:25
ubotu	Photon: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	07:25
dromer	Photon: yup, about that time ;)	07:25
Yorokobi	dromer, Eterm then?	07:25
Yorokobi	dromer, or xterm?	07:25
PhinnFort	mzanfardino: then, sorry;)	07:25
dromer	Yorokobi: yeah xterm ;)	07:25
Photon	yo WATS up everyone?	07:25
Yorokobi	dromer, open a new xterm (which will create a new /dev/pts/X) and try it	07:26
mzanfardino	PhinnFort: maybe it's time I upgraded to Feisty. Can you direct me to a site that will instruct me on the steps to upgrade an existing install?	07:26
PhinnFort	!repeat \| photon	07:26
ubotu	photon: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience	07:26
PhinnFort	mzanfardino: please see the topic	07:26
PhinnFort	mzanfardino: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade	07:26
dromer	Yorokobi: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/9' - please check. and 9 is my regular user again	07:26
mzanfardino	PhinnFort: thank you	07:26
Photon	lol	07:26
PhinnFort	mzanfardino: no problem	07:27
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PhinnFort	mzanfardino: be aware of breakages, though;)	07:27
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Yorokobi	dromer, okay ... that's odd. Have you tried google'ing the error?	07:27
dromer	not yet, will do!	07:27
PhinnFort	!google Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts	07:27
PhinnFort	Photon: ;)	07:28
PhinnFort	Photon: nothing is "up"	07:28
PhinnFort	it's some holiday	07:28
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mzanfardino	PhinnFort: well, given that my printer is no longer working, my adept-common won't update, and when I run an app in WINE my desktop reboots, all of which started happening after I applied the latest edgy update, I guess things can't get much worse...	07:28
Photon	PhinnFort: so how are you today?	07:29
mzanfardino	PhinnFort: unless of course you can tell me how to back out of the last update I performed today? That might at least return me to a stable platform...	07:29
PhinnFort	mzanfardino: ;)	07:29
PhinnFort	Photon: i'm rather okay	07:29
PhinnFort	mzanfardino: troublesome	07:29
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mzanfardino	PhinnFort: I was afraid of that.	07:29
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PhinnFort	mzanfardino: i'm not used enough to the debian/ubuntu way of managing packages to guide you safely through it either	07:30
PhinnFort	;)	07:30
Yorokobi	mzanfardino, do you remember which packages were updated?	07:30
PhinnFort	but feisty is rather stable, at least here	07:30
jarle	Anybody able to recompile nvidia drivers under Feisty?	07:30
mzanfardino	Yorokobi: not exactly, but they were all adept- related.	07:30
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[pyro]	N6REJ: ok the install of the packages went through ok this time. The first cd i was trying must have been a bad iso/burn. Now im having problems installing GRUB on the hd0 (or /dev/hda) mba. syslog says "/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly".	07:30
Yorokobi	mzanfardino, do you have synaptic installed?	07:30
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mzanfardino	Yorokobi: checking	07:31
N6REJ	[pyro] : how did you configure your HD?	07:31
[pyro]	N6REJ: this system is installed on 6 drives in a raid 5 config	07:31
frank_	anyone know how to install keyboard layouts?	07:31
N6REJ	OH	07:31
[pyro]	6 x 40Gb drives	07:31
Yorokobi	[pyro] , sata or scsi ?	07:32
N6REJ	[pyro] : thats beyond me bud, but I would think you would want a "/boot" parition of around 150mb on one of the drives and make that bootable.	07:32
mzanfardino	Yorokobi: do now (didn't a moment ago)	07:32
[pyro]	Yorokobi: neither, they're just 6 ide drives :)	07:32
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[pyro]	Yorokobi: ata100's i think	07:32
firsm	Hi	07:32
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Yorokobi	mzanfardino, in synaptic, search for "adept", highlight the package you want to roll back and use Ctrl-E to bring up a list of the older releases.	07:33
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PhinnFort	!hi \| firsm	07:33
ubotu	firsm: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	07:33
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PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: did you manage to sort it out?	07:33
aaroncampbell	nope	07:33
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firsm	I'm wondering where to set hotkeys for my keyboard for KDE, some hotkeys seem to work out of the box (like the calc key launches speedcrunch) but I can't find the place to set that stuff up, any idea?	07:33
x_link	Damn it	07:33
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[pyro]	N6REJ: :( thanks for your help anyways :)	07:33
aaroncampbell	still working at it, but I can't seem to do both	07:33
Yorokobi	!grub \| [pyro]	07:34
ubotu	[pyro] : grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	07:34
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: bothwhich?	07:34
x_link	I just installed Kubuntu 6.10, but during the installation I couldn't choose root password, so when the installation was done I couldn't do anything.	07:34
PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: have you tried cleaning out your conf?	07:34
x_link	Why is it like this+	07:34
x_link	?	07:34
N6REJ	[pyro] : least i'm honest :D	07:34
aaroncampbell	PhinnFort: yep	07:34
N6REJ	Yorokobi: wouldn't he need a boot partition with that config?	07:34
jhutchins	!root \| x_link	07:34
ubotu	x_link: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	07:34
mzanfardino	Yorokobi: ok, working	07:34
mzanfardino	Yorokobi: on it	07:34
frank_	x_link: you just need to use your ordinairy pw	07:34
x_link	ubotu: I can't run sudo either.	07:34
jhutchins	!kdesu \| x_link	07:34
ubotu	x_link: In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do not use sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo	07:34
[pyro]	N6REJ: googling the error now, i think i may have found something	07:34
firsm	x_link: just provide your user's password	07:35
aaroncampbell	jhutchins: I want 2 samba shares. One that everyone can access, with no need for auth (like security=share), and one that only I can access (limited with user/pass OR IP, or whatever we can come up with)	07:35
frank_	anyone know how to install keyboard layouts?	07:35
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PhinnFort	!languages	07:35
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:35
Yorokobi	N6REJ, a separate /boot partition? Not really. It makes it safer to have one, though.	07:35
x_link	I tried with my normal account pass, didnt work.	07:35
PhinnFort	!keyboard	07:35
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: You need to set up guest access then. It's a bogus user.	07:35
x_link	Sudo didn't work either.	07:35
ubotu	To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts	07:35
PhinnFort	x_link: what isn't working?	07:35
aaroncampbell	jhutchins: I've been trying...I just can't seem to get it right	07:35
x_link	The password.	07:35
jhutchins	!keyboard \| frank_	07:35
ubotu	frank_: please see above	07:35
frank_	PhinnFort: thanks	07:36
N6REJ	Yorokobi: oh, well, I'm remembering when we at first had to when any root partition was not in the first 1024 sectors.	07:36
x_link	With Debian I had to choose root password during the installation.	07:36
PhinnFort	frank_: yw;)	07:36
[pyro]	N6REJ: check this out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/95990	07:36
PhinnFort	x_link: that's insecure	07:36
[pyro]	N6REJ: the bottom entry	07:36
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jhutchins	x_link: We're trying to tell you, ubuntu's different. Please read the page above about sudo.	07:36
mzanfardino	Yorokobi: I'm getting an error telling me I have held broken packages.	07:36
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[pyro]	N6REJ: i only have a 3 partitions on each drive. Being /, swap and /home	07:36
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x_link	jhutchins: Ubuntu?	07:36
[pyro]	N6REJ: no /boot at all	07:36
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Yorokobi	N6REJ, I consider splitting /boot, /home, /var, and /tmp into separate partitions as a "Best Practice" for Linux :)	07:37
jhutchins	x_link: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu all share the same base system, just different desktops/overlays/packages.	07:37
N6REJ	pyro, I would make one small /boot partition. ( cc Yorokobi )	07:37
x_link	jhutchins: Which site do you mean?	07:37
frank_	PhinnFort: my xorg.conf is set up like that.. still the same wrong layout	07:37
hendaus	helpers if i want to creat a file into /home/ed2k.protocol, it says Access denied	07:37
x_link	jhutchins: I use Debian.. never used Ubuntu ;D	07:37
jhutchins	!root \| x_link	07:37
ubotu	x_link: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	07:37
Photon	k i gtg cya all	07:37
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Photon	bye	07:37
PhinnFort	frank_: looked in the KDE Control Center?	07:37
PhinnFort	frank_: alt+f2 "kcontrol"	07:38
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PhinnFort	Photon: bye	07:38
frank_	PhinnFort: i dont have any layouts available..	07:38
[pyro]	N6REJ / Yorokobi: did you see the entry saying they took away /boot and grub installed properly?	07:38
N6REJ	[pyro] : I have a boot partition and fiesty and have no problems.	07:38
PhinnFort	frank_: then i don't know	07:38
PhinnFort	sorry	07:38
N6REJ	you stated you DIDn't have a boot and it didn't work.	07:39
Yorokobi	!pastebin \| mzanfardino	07:39
ubotu	mzanfardino: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	07:39
dnordenberg	Hi. I have two ethernet adapters in feisty and I cant change one of them to manual ip :( I just screams about invalid gateway ip but I don't have a default gateway for the LAN adapter, this machine is supposed to be the gatway	07:39
Yorokobi	mzanfardino, can you paste the error to ^^^	07:39
hendaus	helpers if i want to creat a file into /home/ed2k.protocol, it says Access denied,what can i do?????/	07:39
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dnordenberg	Even if I do set a default gw, it still sais it is invalid :(	07:39
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dnordenberg	ip 192.168.6.1, gw 192.168.6.3, whats invalid with that?	07:40
aaroncampbell	jhutchins: do you have any tips on HOW to make a guest account for samba that will help me achieve my goal?	07:40
cwillu	how do you resize a second panel? when I add it, the config option on it only affects the first panel	07:40
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[pyro]	N6REJ: yeah i have not had /boot partitions before and its been fine. I think there were problems with lilo as it wasnt able to read as far into the disk as grub, but ive never had this problem with grub before. I'll try doign the whole install again, but my gut feeling is its something to do with the raid5	07:41
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PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: this is quickly hacked together, please try it: http://rafb.net/p/60W44f47.html	07:41
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mzanfardino	Yorokobi: working it out now. Apparently there is a dependancy with python-kde3. Looking to see what the issue is.	07:41
PhinnFort	aaroncampbell: use smbpasswd to add users	07:41
Yorokobi	mzanfardino, you may need to roll that back as well	07:41
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: I really don't, I dive deep into samba every once in a while when I'm setting up a new system, then pretty much forget most of it. I haven't done guest, only domain accounts. The docs are in the config comments and in the help links in swat.	07:41
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N6REJ	[pyro] : maybe, but I'd still bet if you took one tiny partition of 150mb and made it /boot and made it "bootable" you'd be fine.	07:41
N6REJ	!raid \| [pyro]	07:42
ubotu	[pyro] : Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO	07:42
aaroncampbell	jhutchins: yeah, thanks. I never got swat to work :\|	07:42
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soulrider	!rip	07:42
jhutchins	http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch06_02.html	07:42
ubotu	To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh	07:42
kj0ttdeig	is it possible to make xubuntu use the screen resolution 1280x1024? everywhere i check, 1024x768 is the maximum, and editing xorg.conf doesn't help	07:42
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch06_02.html	07:42
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: You need swat, it does syntax sanity checking.	07:43
mzanfardino	Yorokobi: I'm rolling them all back one by one to see which one was causing the previous error...	07:43
N6REJ	kj0ttdeig: its a limitation of your video card settings, I'm using 1280x1024 np.	07:43
kj0ttdeig	however, kubuntu and ubuntu handles 1280x1024 very well, but xubuntu doesn't	07:43
aaroncampbell	jhutchins: I installed swat through adept...it says it's installed, but localhost:901 goes nowhere	07:43
soulrider	aaroncampbell: is it running? :P	07:43
kj0ttdeig	kubuntu and ubuntu on the very same hardware*	07:43
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: Maybe you need to start it?	07:43
N6REJ	kj0ttdeig: sorry didn't read that right, try here #xubuntu	07:43
Yorokobi	aaroncampbell, or specify https://	07:44
aaroncampbell	soulrider or jhutchins: how?	07:44
jhutchins	kj0ttdeig: #xfce	07:44
N6REJ	kj0ttdeig: or #xfce	07:44
Yorokobi	aaroncampbell, or plain http://	07:44
PhinnFort	:P	07:44
N6REJ	gmta jhutchins	07:44
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soulrider	aaroncampbell: type swat in a console	07:44
[pyro]	N6REJ: cheers, ill check up on it and try a /boot partition as well	07:44
aaroncampbell	Yorokobi: I used http...tried s...no help	07:44
zorglu_	q. i run edgy and 2.6.17-11-generic kernel, how can i get the kernel -headers, apt-cache search only give me kernel header for 2.4 ?	07:44
N6REJ	[pyro] : cc	07:44
firsm	Anybody know the command for the KDE screensaver?	07:45
jhutchins	!repos \| zorglu_	07:45
ubotu	zorglu_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	07:45
PhinnFort	firsm: try kdesktop_lock, i think	07:45
soulrider	hey N6REJ, whats up ?	07:45
aaroncampbell	soulrider: leaves me on a blank line, and still nothing in the web browser	07:45
zorglu_	jhutchins: cool, but what is the package name for hte kernel headers ?	07:45
firsm	PhinnFort: Excellent, thanks.	07:45
zorglu_	!info kernel-headers	07:45
ubotu	Package kernel-headers does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas	07:45
PhinnFort	firsm: yw;)	07:46
PhinnFort	!info headers	07:46
soulrider	!info swat	07:46
jhutchins	zorglu_: Sorry, dunno.	07:46
ubotu	Package headers does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas	07:46
ubotu	swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 739 kB, installed size 2052 kB	07:46
jhutchins	!compile \| zorglu_	07:46
ubotu	zorglu_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)	07:46
Yorokobi	!info linux-headers	07:46
ubotu	Package linux-headers does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas	07:46
zorglu_	hehe i want to compile a module ! :)	07:46
jhutchins	zorglu_: That should tell you what you need.	07:46
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PhinnFort	linux-headers-2.6.20-14	07:46
zorglu_	linux! :)	07:46
zorglu_	] thanks :)	07:46
PhinnFort	!info linux-headers feisty	07:47
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ubotu	Package linux-headers does not exist in feisty	07:47
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jhutchins	PhinnFort: Pretty common in binary linux that the version number is part of the package name for the kernel.	07:47
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jhutchins	PhinnFort: You usually don't "upgrade" a binary kernel, you install it in parallell.	07:47
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PhinnFort	jhutchins: i also have a package locally that's named "linux-headers"	07:48
jhutchins	PhinnFort: metapackage.	07:48
PhinnFort	jhutchins: i know, and it bothers me, because my /boot is really small	07:48
PhinnFort	;)	07:48
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zorglu_	!info linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic	07:48
jhutchins	PhinnFort: No harm in removing old kernels if the new one works for you.	07:48
ubotu	linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic: Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-11.35 (edgy), package size 893 kB, installed size 24104 kB	07:48
zorglu_	this is the one i was looking for :)	07:48
PhinnFort	jhutchins: just a pita	07:48
jhutchins	PhinnFort: Necessary safety feature.	07:49
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PhinnFort	jhutchins: still a pita;)	07:49
zorglu_	now upgrading pwc driver :)	07:49
jhutchins	jarle: Feisty is #ubuntu+1 still.	07:49
PhinnFort	safety be darned	07:49
CarinArr	!feisty \| jarle	07:49
ubotu	jarle: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)	07:49
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jhutchins	PhinnFort: Tell me that when you've installed a non-bootable kernel.	07:50
aaroncampbell	soulrider or jhutchins: I still can't seem to get swat running. If I try to execute swat from a prompt, I just get my cursor on a blank line, and I still can't access localhost:901	07:50
PhinnFort	jhutchins: did that once, in gentoo	07:50
PhinnFort	thank $DEITY for livecds;)	07:50
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: Perhaps you need to sudo /etc/init.d/swat start?	07:51
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: That or it starts as part of samba.	07:51
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: I do not have a *ubntu samba system here.	07:51
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aaroncampbell	jhutchins: there is no swat in my init.d dir, and samba is running	07:51
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zorglu_	wow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam is excelent tutorial, in 20sec i could upgrade the pwc driver which is broken on edgy :)	07:52
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jhutchins	aaroncampbell: See if this helps: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=467179	07:54
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cwillu	how do I change the width of more than one panel in kde?	07:59
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aaroncampbell	jhutchins: thanks, it looks like I need inetd, but it's not available in the repos	08:00
aaroncampbell	!inetd	08:00
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:00
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TheJman	yo	08:01
wolferine	um	08:01
wolferine	yo?	08:01
wolferine	:)	08:01
dragonkh	hello	08:01
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PhinnFort	!hi \| dragonkh	08:02
ubotu	dragonkh: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!	08:02
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dragonkh	hello PhinnFort	08:02
cwillu	is kde broken in general, or is it just feisty?	08:02
PhinnFort	hello	08:02
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hendaus	friends sudo mkdir /home/ed2k.protocol , now how can i delete the folder?	08:02
PhinnFort	:D	08:03
cwillu	:/	08:03
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PhinnFort	cwillu: do you have a problem?	08:03
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PhinnFort	hendaus: sudo rm -fdr /home/ed2k.protocol should kill it	08:03
cwillu	PhinnFort: I can't seem to set the properties for any panel other than the first one, and system settings insists on resizing itself to slightly bigger than my main display	08:04
hendaus	PhinnFort, thanx	08:04
PhinnFort	cwillu: System Settings isn't KDE, it's Kubuntu	08:04
cwillu	one and the same to me right now :p	08:04
PhinnFort	cwillu: use KControl instead, it's much better, imho	08:04
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lontra	cwillu: kcontrol	08:04
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cwillu	anyways, it's the panel thing that's got me uptight	08:04
cwillu	but I'll install kcontrol	08:04
hendaus	PhinnFort, if i want to creat a new file name ed2k.protocol and add on it some codes , how can i make it	08:04
PhinnFort	cwillu: don't install	08:05
PhinnFort	hendaus: "kdesu kate ed2k.protocol"	08:05
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PhinnFort	cwillu: it comes with it, just hidden	08:05
PhinnFort	cwillu: hit alt+f2, type in "kcontrol" and hit enter	08:05
cwillu	is there a good way to replace the control centre in the menu?	08:06
cwillu	if I'm gonna be typing commands, I'd rather be using bash and vi :p	08:06
PhinnFort	cwillu: go to run, then	08:06
PhinnFort	on the k-menu	08:07
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PhinnFort	cwillu: when in KControl, search for panels, and choose the panel you want to fix	08:07
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cwillu	PhinnFort: how do I choose which panel its modifying?	08:08
PhinnFort	cwillu: do you have several panels?	08:09
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PhinnFort	cwillu: if so, there should be a drop down menu, "Settings for:"	08:10
cwillu	PhinnFort: I'm trying to have one on the bottom of each display; I see the option that lets me stretch one across both, but then applets slide around across the divider	08:10
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PhinnFort	cwillu: you have dual screen?	08:10
cwillu	yes	08:10
PhinnFort	cwillu: try right click on the panel, add new panel	08:11
hendaus	PhinnFort, thanx, but now i have the question for u	08:11
PhinnFort	and drag one over	08:11
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hendaus	PhinnFort, To have ed2k links work from Konqueror , You can find this directory by searching for file names ending with .protocol. To search run `find /usr -name ".protocol"` or `find /opt -name ".protocol"`. If you're not sure about the directory where KDE is installed you can even put / as search path	08:12
cwillu	PhinnFort: I think i see the problem: 'configure panel' from the panel's context menu seems to bring up kubuntu's config tool, which doesn't have the dropdown menu you mentioned	08:12
cwillu	nor does it operate on the panel you clicked on	08:12
PhinnFort	cwillu: right-clicky config only configures the panel you right-clickys on	08:12
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PhinnFort	...it should, afaik;)	08:12
PhinnFort	cwillu: but didn't i tell you to use kcontrol?	08:12
cwillu	PhinnFort: no, it configures the first panel displayed, _not_ the one I click on :)	08:12
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hendaus	PhinnFort, how can i find the files ending with *.protocol and paste the one that i creat	08:13
cwillu	PhinnFort: you did, but I also like to be able to right click on things, and expect them to work as expected :)	08:13
PhinnFort	cwillu: file a bug if you have time;)	08:13
jhutchins	aaroncampbell: try xinetd	08:13
PhinnFort	hendaus: maybe ask in #kde	08:13
PhinnFort	!xinetd	08:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about xinetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:13
PhinnFort	!info xinetd	08:13
ubotu	xinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 356 kB	08:13
cwillu	PhinnFort: one sec	08:14
PhinnFort	times up	08:14
PhinnFort	*'	08:14
hendaus	PhinnFort, i found the .protocol on /usr , but i dont know how to creat the protocol file there	08:15
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PhinnFort	hendaus: i really don't know what you're trying to do, sorry, but you could try to ask the developers in #kde;)	08:15
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hendaus	PhinnFort, i give u the site, http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:hTzJM6eCy_UJ:www.amule.org/wiki/index.php%3Ftitle%3DEd2k_links_handling%26printable%3Dyes+amule+firefox+site:amule.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=opera	08:16
hendaus	PhinnFort, just see about konqueror	08:17
PhinnFort	hendaus: i think that is a bit old	08:17
hendaus	PhinnFort, coz i need it urgent for amule	08:18
PhinnFort	hendaus: wait a second, and i'll walk you through it, ok?	08:18
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hendaus	PhinnFort, ok thank u	08:18
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PhinnFort	hendaus: first, are you sure it doesn't already work?	08:19
frank227a	Anyone know of a poker site like partypoker or fulltiltpoker that works with kubuntu/ ubuntu?	08:19
hendaus	i told u what it shows	08:19
hendaus	PhinnFort, This untrusted page links to	08:20
hendaus	ed2k://\|file\|Kiyana.WMV\|114081360\|88801FD69A02BB4B46B15BAED8909CC7\|h=ODAZ4LKRW4HG3XCY3EALNHXP7VRNXICH\|/.	08:20
hendaus	Do you want to follow the link?	08:20
PhinnFort	hendaus: hit alt+f2, type in "kdesu kate /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol	08:20
PhinnFort	"	08:20
hendaus	this happen when i click in the ed2k link	08:20
PhinnFort	hendaus: what happens if you follow the link?	08:21
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hendaus	PhinnFort, if i follow the link it doesnot work	08:21
PhinnFort	ok	08:21
PhinnFort	hendaus: did you do as i said?	08:21
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hendaus	PhinnFort, yes	08:22
hendaus	PhinnFort, the ed2k text file open	08:22
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PhinnFort	hendaus: now please paste everything from this file: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/ed2k.txt	08:23
PhinnFort	hendaus: wait	08:23
PhinnFort	hendaus: can you first type in "which ed2k" in a console?	08:23
hendaus	how	08:24
PhinnFort	hendaus: hit alt+f2, type "konsole", hit enter	08:24
PhinnFort	then type in "which ed2k" and hit enter	08:24
PhinnFort	ok?	08:25
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\|lostbyte\|	To display all system variables ?	08:25
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PhinnFort	\|lostbyte\|: to show where the ed2k binary resides	08:25
hendaus	PhinnFort, bash: which ed2k: command not found	08:25
hendaus	lol	08:25
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hendaus	i have paste what ever u gave me	08:26
PhinnFort	hendaus: which ed2k	08:26
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PhinnFort	without "'s	08:26
hendaus	PhinnFort, ok it doesnor show anything	08:26
PhinnFort	!info ed2k	08:27
ubotu	Package ed2k does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas	08:27
PhinnFort	hendaus: hmm, this is weird	08:27
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NiceGuyUK	Using Feisty Beta : CTRL-SHIFT-L to lock the screen doesn't trigger the screensaver any more - anyone know if this change is by design or if its a bug?	08:27
PhinnFort	!info amule-utils	08:28
ubotu	amule-utils: utilities for aMule (command-line version). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 377 kB, installed size 760 kB	08:28
myTB\|Tanuva	is it really necessary to unmount partitions to resize them?	08:28
PhinnFort	hendaus: do you have amule-utils installed?	08:28
PhinnFort	myTB\|Tanuva: of course	08:28
hendaus	PhinnFort, after the maessage shows to follow it --> Could not find the program '/path/to/ed2k'	08:28
myTB\|Tanuva	hmm..	08:28
Yorokobi	NiceGuyUK, have you looked at the global keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol/System Settings?	08:28
myTB\|Tanuva	then I need to boot a livecd	08:28
NiceGuyUK	Yorokobi: one sec, will check.	08:29
bill57785	NiceGuyUK: I heard that there was a bug when you lock the screen. Since there is no password to actually enter, you can unlock the screen....not sure how they fixed it though.	08:29
PhinnFort	hendaus: that's because you shouldn't close the file before I've found the path	08:29
hendaus	PhinnFort, i just have amle?	08:29
PhinnFort	hendaus: install amule-utils	08:29
hendaus	*amule	08:29
PhinnFort	hendaus: it contains the ed2k program you need for this to work	08:29
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hendaus	PhinnFort, so the command of the site that i gave u doesnot work :(?	08:30
PhinnFort	hendaus: it will, when you've installed amule-utils and fixed the file	08:30
PhinnFort	ok?	08:30
Yorokobi	hendaus, the website says that you need to install amule-utils if you have Kubuntu	08:31
hendaus	PhinnFort, can u give the utils site	08:31
PhinnFort	hendaus: do you have the konsole open?	08:31
hendaus	PhinnFort, yes	08:31
PhinnFort	hendaus: if so, type in "sudo aptitude install amule-utils"	08:31
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NiceGuyUK	Yorokobi: yep, the keysetting is there. I still get the session locked, with password, but not with the screensaver hiding whatever I had on the screen before locking	08:32
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NiceGuyUK	bill57785: I still get the password	08:32
PhinnFort	hendaus: while that works, please open http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/ed2k.txt again	08:33
hendaus	PhinnFort, yes it is installing	08:33
hendaus	but i have amule open	08:33
Yorokobi	NiceGuyUK, Are you using beryl?	08:33
PhinnFort	hendaus: is that a problem?	08:33
NiceGuyUK	Yorokobi: nope	08:33
Yorokobi	NiceGuyUK, also, is the screen saver configured to lock the screen?	08:33
hendaus	PhinnFort, no	08:33
PhinnFort	hendaus: make sure the second line says "exec=/usr/bin/ed2k "%u""	08:33
PhinnFort	then replace the ed2k.protocols file with the new one	08:33
PhinnFort	ok?	08:33
NiceGuyUK	Yorokobi: no, but previous behaviour was if the screen was locked manually and a screensaver was enabled, it would lock with screensaver. I'll try altering the Screensaver settings and see if that helps	08:34
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hendaus	PhinnFort, ok done the utils, now what should i do	08:35
PhinnFort	hendaus: have you closed the ed2k.protocols file?	08:35
Yorokobi	NiceGuyUK, I've discovered that some of what was "previous behaviour" has changed with feisty	08:35
vanman	can you have the kubunto system installed on a pc that still has windows installed as well?	08:35
PhinnFort	hendaus: kdesu kate /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol	08:35
hendaus	PhinnFort, yes	08:35
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Yorokobi	vanman, yes	08:35
PhinnFort	replace everthing with everything from http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/ed2k.txt	08:35
PhinnFort	*everything	08:35
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NiceGuyUK	Yorokobi: fixed it! turns out it was because of which screensaver I used. Had "Swarm" from the "Flying Things" section before - changed to "Polygons" and the old behaviour is back :-)	08:36
vanman	how much free space would be needed, and how would I go about installing the OS without risking losing the other?	08:36
hendaus	PhinnFort, done	08:37
PhinnFort	!space	08:37
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	08:37
PhinnFort	hendaus: save the file, and try the link again	08:37
Yorokobi	!dualboot	08:37
ubotu	Dual boot instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)	08:37
Yorokobi	vanman ^^^	08:37
PhinnFort	vanman: there's also video tutorials to guide you through it	08:37
PhinnFort	hendaus: maybe do alt+f2, "killall konqueror" first	08:38
PhinnFort	to make sure konqueror is restarted	08:38
hendaus	PhinnFort, Could not find the program '/path/to/ed2k'	08:38
PhinnFort	if it doesn't work	08:38
PhinnFort	hendaus: try killall konqueror	08:39
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NiceGuyUK	Katapult is cool, but doesn't always recognise every app I want it to. Ist here a config file for it somewhere?	08:39
hendaus	PhinnFort, ok done	08:39
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PhinnFort	hendaus: try again	08:39
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PhinnFort	still won't work?	08:39
Yorokobi	hendaus, it'll never find ed2k if the path you specified is literally '/path/to/ed2k'	08:39
PhinnFort	Yorokobi: konqueror hasn't reloaded the file, i just fixed it	08:40
Yorokobi	ah	08:40
hendaus	PhinnFort, the same	08:40
PhinnFort	*reloaded the .protocol file	08:40
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PhinnFort	;)	08:40
vanman	ty	08:41
PhinnFort	hendaus: close all text editor windows	08:41
PhinnFort	hendaus: then hit alt+f2 and type in "kdesu kate /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol"	08:41
hendaus	they all are closed	08:41
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PhinnFort	replace the second line, which says "exec=/path/to/ed2k..." with "exec=/usr/bin/ed2k "%u""	08:42
PhinnFort	save and close	08:42
PhinnFort	hendaus: try the link again?	08:42
hendaus	ok	08:43
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PhinnFort	it works?	08:43
PhinnFort	hendaus: if not working, killall konqueror, if still not working, "kbuildsycoca --noincremental" in konsole, and try again	08:43
PhinnFort	if still not working, reboot;)	08:44
PhinnFort	now i'm going to find myself some pizza	08:44
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PF-Away	good luck	08:44
Yorokobi	Indeed, pizza is hard to find :)	08:44
hendaus	PF-Away, yes done thanx :))	08:44
hendaus	PF-Away, thanx too much	08:45
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hendaus	but the first message shows and when i hit follow it works	08:45
hendaus	PF-Away, is there a way to block the first message?	08:46
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shampoonator	Anyone ever get an ati raedon 9800pro mit raedon driver to work under kubuntu? i mean the 3d accerleration..	08:50
Apollo^101	mplayer does plays .dat or .mp3 files. why	08:51
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NiceGuyUK	!mp3	08:51
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:51
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NiceGuyUK	Apollo^101: mp3 is what they call a "restricted format" - the link above should give you some help	08:52
Apollo^101	NiceGuyUK, ok	08:52
shampoonator	if i do modprope radeon and there comes an error.. that is not good .. is it?	08:52
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Apollo^101	is there a simple way to make a backup of my linux installed partition. like a live cd?	08:52
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NiceGuyUK	Apollo^101: there's a lot more to a LiveCD than backing up the partition. Its quite a complicated procxess	08:53
NiceGuyUK	shampoonator: you installed the non-free drivers or the free ones?	08:53
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shampoonator	free	08:53
Apollo^101	NiceGuyUK, yes. i was thinking to make a backup plus make it live on live cd. is it possible. any easy way	08:54
Apollo^101	?	08:54
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shampoonator	Driver "radeon" <== thats the free one isnt it.. must be :)	08:54
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kaner	hey, would anyone have any idea why my clock runs a bit on the fast side?	08:55
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llutz	kaner: "rm /etc/adjtime" and "ntpdate" after that	08:56
kaner	worth a shot, thanks	08:57
djnevs	Hello people.. cound anyone help me fix my vid card driver? its a nvidia riva tnt 2 model 64, im running kubuntu feisty beta	08:57
shampoonator	ich reboote ma	08:57
barravince	hi guys during the sistem upgrade from edgy to feisty i'e retreived these errors:	08:57
shampoonator	bei windows half das auch immer	08:57
barravince	root@debian:/home/vincenzo# apt-get dist-upgrade	08:57
shampoonator	oh wrong.. channel..	08:57
shampoonator	:D	08:57
barravince	Reading package lists... Done	08:57
barravince	Building dependency tree... Done	08:57
barravince	Calculating upgrade... Done	08:57
barravince	The following packages have been kept back:	08:57
barravince	adept apt apt-utils foo2zjs initramfs-tools kate kcontrol kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs4c2a kdepasswd kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind khelpcenter kicker	08:57
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barravince	klipper kmenuedit konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kwin libc6	08:58
barravince	libc6-i686 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libkonq4 lvm2 mdadm python-apt python-imaging python-imaging-sane python-kde3 python-uno udev	08:58
barravince	xserver-xorg-driver-all xserver-xorg-input-all xutils	08:58
barravince	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded.	08:58
Yorokobi	!spam \| barravince	08:58
ubotu	barravince: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)	08:58
barravince	what i can do?	08:58
barravince	o sorry i don't know	08:58
barravince	is the first time that i'm there	08:59
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djnevs	Hello people.. cound anyone help me fix my vid card driver? its a nvidia riva tnt 2 model 64, im running kubuntu feisty beta please im me	08:59
kaner	whoops, im getting "time stamp to far in the future now for sudo"	08:59
jhutchins	djnevs: Feisty is in #ubuntu+1, for all flavors.	09:00
djnevs	oh ok	09:00
Yorokobi	barravince, did you change your sources.list entries from edgy to feisty (or dapper to edgy) ??	09:01
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barravince	yorokobi my version is 6.04	09:02
jhutchins	barravince: First, you should try the upgrade tool ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ )instead of just doing dist-upgrade.	09:02
barravince	and i've see the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade faq	09:02
jhutchins	Argh.	09:02
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jhutchins	Yeah, that's the one.	09:02
cwillu	how do you disable mouse-wheel scrolling making that window active in kde? (i.e., the default in gnome)	09:02
jhutchins	barravince: I thought you said edgy => feisty?	09:02
Yorokobi	barravince, you shouldn't upgrade from 6.04 to 7.04	09:02
katia_	hi eveybody	09:03
barravince	and what version is edgy?	09:03
cwillu	6.10	09:03
jhutchins	barravince: Good news is a clean install's probably the quickest fix at this point.	09:03
Yorokobi	barravince, edgy is 6.10	09:03
cwillu	6.06 you meant though, right?	09:03
katia_	i'm using kubuntu 6.06	09:03
barravince	a sorry but i'm a new user of kubuntu i suser	09:03
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Yorokobi	6.06/6.04 dochidemo	09:04
barravince	ok and is there a method for go to 6.04 to 6.10?	09:04
katia_	and i need to know if the directory /etc/rc.d exist	09:04
cwillu	barravince: normal upgrade, although for 6.06, you have to trigger it by hand (6.06 is a long-term stable version)	09:04
jhutchins	katia_: The wonders of the bash shell: ls /etc	09:04
katia_	or it belongs to other distros of linux?	09:05
Arwen	huh, new kernel, time for a reboot	09:05
barravince	ok thanks for all guys :-)	09:05
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jhutchins	katia_: ubuntu enables runlevels, but they're all the same so it's meaningless.	09:05
Apollo^101	the live cd installs kubuntu on hdd. isnt there a standard tool for making (reversing) the process from installed os to a live cd?	09:05
cwillu	jhutchins: say wha?	09:05
katia_	but i can't find that directory	09:05
firsm	Anybody know how to set up keyboard hotkeys in KDE? Some keys seem to work out of the box, but can't find the settings anywhere.	09:06
jhutchins	katia_: Ah, I don't think it's there.	09:07
jhutchins	!keyboard \| firsm	09:07
ubotu	firsm: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts	09:07
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jhutchins	katia_: What are you actually looking for?	09:07
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cwillu	how do you make mousewheeling not change the focus?	09:08
firsm	jhutchins: I didn't ask how to switch my keyboard layout...	09:08
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CountryGuy	Hi Folks. I have a frustrating problem with a particular internet radio web site that I go to, http://www.bca.cmich.edu/WMHW/index.htm. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.3 with both Kubuntu 6.10 and the Feisty 7.04 beta. When I click on "Listen Live" I don't get any sound. I can get other Internet radio stations but not this one even though it works perfectly under <gulp> Windows. Any ideas of a codec that I may need? I've tried the qu	09:08
katia_	jhutchins: i am trying to install qmail	09:08
katia_	but in one of the steps i need to access to /etc/rc.d	09:09
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jhutchins	CountryGuy: Supposed to be quicktime, but mplayer doesn't like it.	09:10
Yorokobi	katia_, use Postfix :)	09:10
jhutchins	katia_: You need a debian/ubuntu howto.	09:10
\|lostbyte\|	where can i find the latest ffflv..	09:10
CountryGuy	I know. I'm baffled.	09:10
jhutchins	katia_: Probably just put the startup files in /etc/init.d, but I'm not sure how you activate them.	09:10
katia_	ok thanks	09:10
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jhutchins	katia_: http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/03/ubuntu-qmail-howto/	09:12
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jhutchins	katia_: Good luck. See also #ubuntu-server.	09:13
katia_	thanks a lot	09:13
Yorokobi	jhutchins, that howto barely scratches the surface for installing/configuring qmail. :)	09:14
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Yorokobi	Trying to set up qmail is why I use Postfix now.	09:14
katia_	jajaja	09:15
firsm	qmail runs fine on my other box. :p	09:15
jhutchins	Yorokobi: It's still more than I know about it.	09:16
jhutchins	I still prefer sendmail.	09:17
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zipper	jhutchins, no offence, but why would anyone choose ubuntu as server distro?	09:18
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jhutchins	zipper: Because ubuntu's the hot, new thing, and it's not as intimidating as debian.	09:19
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zipper	jhutchins, its a server... its supposed to be intimidating	09:19
jhutchins	zipper: Been managing commercial linux servers for about ten years now.	09:19
zipper	and if you dont have a pretty GUI anyway, i fail to see how debian should be more or less intimidating to be honest	09:19
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zipper	jhutchins, good for you	09:20
jhutchins	Debian has a reputation.	09:20
jhutchins	A great distro - if you write C code.	09:20
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chronos-coding	have kubuntu/ubuntu i686 cds/packages?	09:21
jhutchins	That may not be deserved, but it's the perception.	09:21
zipper	i really disagree, but somehow i dont think another distro war will change anything	09:21
Arwen	chronos-coding, is that a question or a statement of fact?	09:21
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jhutchins	zipper: I'm not asserting that it's true, I'm merely explaining why Debian is more intimidating to people, and why they would consider ubuntu LTS for a server. There is a server install CD you konow.	09:22
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Yorokobi	IMHO, Ubuntu for the desktop, RHEL/CentOS for the server	09:22
chronos-coding	Arwen: is one question :), sorry for my bad english.	09:22
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jhutchins	chronos-coding: The standard ubuntu/kubuntu CD's support all x86 architectures.	09:23
Arwen	chronos-coding, yes, there are kubuntu and ubuntu CDs and Packages	09:23
Yorokobi	!br \| chronos-coding	09:23
ubotu	chronos-coding: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.	09:23
Arwen	if you want, there's even a set of DVDs with EVERY package on them	09:23
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chronos-coding	Arwen: I only want for i686 :). On site I only see i386 livecd for kubuntu 7.04	09:24
zipper	jhutchins, i know... But to be honest, people getting intimidated shouldn't really play around with servers anyway. A side question, how could a core server system be anymore or less for C coders than others? I mean, no core should include anything but the most necessary dev tools	09:24
chronos-coding	Yorokobi: thx :)	09:24
jhutchins	chronos-coding: That supports i686 as well, it's a merged kernel that detects the correct CPU.	09:24
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Arwen	chronos-coding, there's no such thing as an i686 CD/DVD	09:24
chronos-coding	ah, ok	09:24
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chronos-coding	but packages pre compiled for i686 have, right ...?	09:25
Arwen	chronos-coding, it was determined that i686 optimizations were useless, and since i386 code works on i*86...	09:25
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Arwen	I think libc6 is about the only package that still has 686 optimizations	09:25
jhutchins	zipper: Believe it or not, some people think it's appropriate to have a full code development environment on a production server, and think nothing of hand-patching programs to make them work.	09:26
hanzz	ok.. so upgrade from edgy to feisty fail... i think that i fix it, but i want to run it again.. how can i do it?	09:26
hanzz	*run upgrade again	09:26
zipper	jhutchins, i can understand the "No hand-patching" thing, but full code development?	09:26
jhutchins	Arwen: Actually, there's a bunch of things that optimize for 686, but the code is merged into a unified library.	09:26
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Arwen	jhutchins, ok	09:27
zipper	jhutchins, that should be done somewhere else than on the server imho	09:27
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jhutchins	zipper: Sort of the opposite end of the spectrum from me, I agree with you. Stable, tested, binary packages for my server please.	09:27
jhutchins	If really necessary, patched and re-built on a test server (I should be so lucky)	09:28
jhutchins	hanzz: Please see #ubuntu+1	09:28
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zipper	jhutchins, well, maybe i'm just focusing too much on production servers. I mean hell, i used to run debian SID on a server i used as gateway/playground once :P	09:29
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zipper	that was... exciting	09:30
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jhutchins	I inhereted an office running on Gentoo unstable, because when they were built unstable was the only way to get everything running.	09:30
zipper	jhutchins, its just lovely cleaning up after the last guy huh?	09:31
jhutchins	I built a server using Manrdriva 2007, and I think it was a mistake to try to use anything that current - should be at least 6 months old.	09:31
zipper	jhutchins, your first mistake was to chose a RPM distro :)	09:32
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jhutchins	zipper: I disagree there, I like the better compliance with LSB, LFH, and SysV.	09:32
jhutchins	zipper: However, I would agree that there aren't any current RPM distros that I would really recommend.	09:33
jhutchins	I've used RPM since I started with Linux (RH2.1) and I like and understand it well.	09:33
zipper	jhutchins, notice the ":)"... RPM vs deb is mostly a religious question imo. Just use whatever you fancy the most	09:34
jhutchins	(We do drift pretty far OT here - if anybody has kubuntu questions just stomp all over us.)	09:34
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zipper	haha, yeah, sorry about that	09:34
zipper	waiting for my slow ass cd burner to finish	09:34
zipper	could take hours	09:34
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Powerking89670	is there a way to change the port the ping command pings?	09:35
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jhutchins	Powerking89670: Perhaps there's a different way to go about what you're trying to do.	09:37
jonathan_	!aptfix	09:37
ubotu	If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	09:37
jonathan_	hey guys im now trying 64bit version of feisty	09:37
zipper	shouldnt that ";" be changed to "&&" btw?	09:37
jonathan_	could i use the same wiki that i used with edgy to get my open gl to work	09:37
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Yorokobi	zipper, && and ; are essentially the same	09:38
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Yorokobi	in bash at any rate	09:38
eagles0513875	hey guys im now trying 64bit version of feisty	09:39
eagles0513875	could i use the same wiki that i used with edgy to get my open gl to work	09:39
zipper	Yorokobi, not entirely. with ; the next command is executed no matter what. With && its only executed if the first command ended succesfully	09:39
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llutz	Yorokobi: you're wrong	09:39
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adaptr	you	09:39
adaptr	're soooo wrong	09:40
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adaptr	so so so very very wroooong	09:40
eagles0513875	?	09:40
zipper	lol adaptr	09:40
Powerking89670	ok guys no need to flame lol	09:40
jhutchins	Feisty is still in #ubuntu+1	09:40
zipper	i think he got the hint :)	09:40
eagles0513875	ok well im heading ovr there guys	09:40
adaptr	very few people get it	09:40
eagles0513875	?	09:40
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Powerking89670	It doesnt matter how many people get it, there is never a need to flame anyone for anything	09:40
adaptr	Powerking89670: who am I flaming ?	09:40
Powerking89670	[15:39] <adaptr> you	09:41
Powerking89670	[15:40] <adaptr> 're soooo wrong	09:41
Powerking89670	[15:40] * Yorokobi sits corrected.	09:41
Powerking89670	[15:40] <adaptr> so so so very very wroooong	09:41
eagles0513875	i know this is wrong channel but would that wiki work	09:41
adaptr	Powerking89670: thank you for not flooding	09:41
Yorokobi	I don't see any burn marks on me	09:41
Powerking89670	I think a, "Thats incorrect" is efficient enough to get the point accross	09:41
Powerking89670	yw	09:41
adaptr	!flood \| Powerking89670	09:41
ubotu	Powerking89670: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)	09:41
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llutz	no flame at all	09:41
zipper	Powerking89670, personally i thought of it as sarcasm, not flaming	09:41
adaptr	llutz: actually, it was you I was satirising	09:42
Powerking89670	Im a flame nazi, I run forums they have me tense	09:42
Powerking89670	I apologize	09:42
Yorokobi	I figured adaptr had just jumped at an opportunity to be sarcastic	09:42
adaptr	Yorokobi: you got that one right, at least	09:42
adaptr	:)	09:42
zipper	you should never let such an opportunity slip away anyway	09:42
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adaptr	loosen UP probies ! it's Easter almost	09:42
zipper	gah, dont remind me	09:43
adaptr	eggfight, anyone ?	09:43
jhutchins	Powerking89670: So what are you trying to achieve by pinging a different port?	09:43
zipper	my isp started charging me for a connection that they have yet to deliver... and they've closed down support lines for the easter =(	09:43
Yorokobi	adaptr, are they deviled?	09:43
Powerking89670	Well, I need to have a friends irc run a DOS drill	09:43
adaptr	Yorokobi: I prefer fighting with raw eggs, so no.. prolly not	09:43
jhutchins	zipper: Let me guess, BT?	09:43
Powerking89670	and well, ping is effective, but he wants it moreso :p	09:43
Yorokobi	adaptr, too bad. I could eat a deviled egg right about now ;)	09:43
zipper	jhutchins, BT? I'm danish, its a company called CyberCity	09:43
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jhutchins	zipper: Ah. British Telecom are right bastards to deal with. Charged us for six months service after we left the country.	09:44
adaptr	Powerking89670: no amount of pinging will test a connection to the point of breaking - unless you craft your own packets	09:44
zipper	jhutchins, nice one	09:44
adaptr	jhutchins: be glad they didn't stick you for long-distance :)	09:45
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zipper	haha	09:45
cox377	jhutchins: where u from?	09:45
llutz	Powerking89670: maybe hping is what you're looking for	09:45
zipper	cox377, a wild guess would be UK	09:45
jhutchins	cox377: Smack in the middle of the USA these days.	09:45
zipper	damn	09:45
Powerking89670	tell me more llutz	09:45
Yorokobi	Powerking89670, ping is an ICMP-only tool. No TCP/UDP ports (flame on!)	09:45
cox377	zipper: haha	09:45
jhutchins	Wife was on assignment in Hampshire (UK) for two years	09:45
zipper	cox377, =/	09:45
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llutz	Powerking89670: read more at http://www.hping.org/	09:46
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zipper	Yorokobi, FLAME!!!	09:46
zipper	(?)	09:46
Powerking89670	Thank you llutz	09:46
Yorokobi	zipper, funny, but not sarcastic to the point of being mean :)	09:47
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jhutchins	Powerking89670: Oh, you mean DoS testing!	09:47
Powerking89670	yes	09:47
zipper	Yorokobi, heh, well, i was just wondering why you would expect someone to flame you for that comment?	09:47
Powerking89670	We have some nasty competition	09:47
Powerking89670	I wouldnt put DoS past them	09:47
Powerking89670	so we need to be prepared	09:47
Yorokobi	zipper, I was covering my bases. Just in case	09:47
zipper	Yorokobi, better safe than sorry i guess	09:48
Yorokobi	Powerking89670, iptables is your friend. (or a Cisco ASA)	09:48
Arwen	Powerking89670, to be frank, there's not much you can do against a true DDoS other than to add more bandwidth	09:49
Powerking89670	Yes I know	09:49
Powerking89670	its just a drill so we dont loose our IRC chans	09:49
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Powerking89670	We own the IRC, but its just a test we run occassionally	09:50
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shampoonator	aargz this ati driver is making me maaaad	09:50
zipper	Arwen, bandwitdth, and powerful routers	09:50
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zipper	either that, or having a bigger botnet than them :P	09:51
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jhutchins	!beryl \| shampoonator	09:51
ubotu	shampoonator: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects	09:51
jhutchins	shampoonator: I assume you've seen the !ati factoid?	09:51
Arwen	shampoonator, or... nvidia? :-)	09:51
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shampoonator	Arwen: well in fact.. this is the card i got from the pc were i bought a new nvidia card lol	09:52
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shampoonator	jhutchins: the what?	09:52
eagles0513875	how do i fix apt repositories	09:52
eagles0513875	it keeps saying duplicat repositories exist	09:53
jhutchins	!ati \| shampoonator	09:53
ubotu	shampoonator: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	09:53
Arwen	!ati \| shadowraven	09:53
ubotu	shadowraven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	09:53
zipper	eagles0513875, look through /etc/apt/sources.list for duplications	09:53
Arwen	!ati \| shampoonator	09:53
Arwen	stupid bot....	09:53
shampoonator	ok ok got it :)	09:53
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Arwen	!easysource \| eagles0513875	09:53
ubotu	eagles0513875: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	09:53
shampoonator	i havent seen THAT howto.. but i give it another try :)	09:54
eagles0513875	ok	09:54
zipper	uuh	09:54
zipper	what a nice tool. Never knew of that website	09:54
Arwen	it only kind of works	09:54
zipper	meh, theres always a catch	09:54
Powerking89670	Does anyone know of a guide to configure my Apache server?	09:55
Powerking89670	Id ask the bot, but I wasnt sure if it had one	09:55
jhutchins	Powerking89670: http://apache.org	09:55
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Apollo^101	i cant see some packages like 'reconstructor' in adept package manager of kubuntu. why is that?	09:56
jhutchins	Powerking89670: There is also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP	09:56
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jhutchins	!repos \| Apollo^101	09:56
ubotu	Apollo^101: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	09:56
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Apollo^101	jhutchins, thanks	09:57
james__	is Ntfs-3g verified to be safe to write to XP NTFS??	09:58
jhutchins	wolferine: Hey, I see you're checking out tovid!	09:59
wolferine	yeah	09:59
wolferine	its not working so hot	10:00
wolferine	using tovidgui	10:00
Apollo^101	how to add all the worlds reopsitores	10:00
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jhutchins	wolferine: try tktodisk, more recent work on that.	10:00
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jhutchins	wolferine: I usually use the gui do develop an approximate command, then tweak it from the CLI.	10:01
wolferine	ah	10:01
wolferine	thats a good point	10:01
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wolferine	just seems to take a long time	10:01
jhutchins	james__: 100% - as long as you have a good backup.	10:01
wolferine	( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500 Speed: 2216.734 MHz Cache: 512 KB ] \| RAM Usage: 912/3116M [\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|] ( 29.3% ) \| [ HD Model: ST3300831A Size: 684G with 173G Free ( 25.3% ) ] \| Number of process: 140	10:01
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jhutchins	Yup.	10:01
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jhutchins	Often more than 1x the running time of the video.	10:02
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james__	Sysinfo for 'JamesMepis': Linux 2.6.15-27-desktop running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Duron processor at 1997 MHz (4000 bogomips), HD: 286/542GB, RAM: 1003/1010MB, 98 proc's, 1.46h up	10:02
wolferine	Duron, too bad :)	10:03
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shampoonator	well	10:05
shampoonator	last chance.. another reboot :D	10:05
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Apollo^101	how to add all the worlds reopsitores?	10:06
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Yorokobi	Apollo^101, do you want to add all of the ubuntu mirrors to your sources.list?	10:06
Arwen	james__, a little late, but regarding ntfs-3g...	10:06
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Arwen	james__, how important is the data on your NTFS partition?	10:07
jhutchins	Apollo^101: Did you look at that web page ubotu sent you?	10:07
shampoonator	(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work	10:07
shampoonator	AARGz oO	10:07
zipper	Is there a specific channel about developing in linux (not necessarely FOR linux)? Thinking about C/C++	10:07
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james__	Arwen: videos expensive, but not important	10:08
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Arwen	james__, ntfs-3g is believed to be safe for basic read/write operations - make sure not to enable global rw if that ntfs partition has your Windows install on it	10:08
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Apollo^101	jhutchins, yes. but thats not all the works repos	10:09
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yonkeltron	any firefox users experiencing crashes when they tab or otherwise move away from firefox?	10:09
Arwen	james__, that said, I would suggest migrating your data to ext3 instead of using ntfs-3g as a fix	10:09
jhutchins	!easysources \| Apollo^101	10:09
ubotu	Apollo^101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	10:09
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james__	Arwen: enable global rw ???	10:09
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Apollo^101	worlds*	10:10
jhutchins	james__: The first sign of an incompatible version of NTFS is complete loss of data on the partition.	10:10
wolferine	yonkeltron, have you changed any of the settings in about:config ?	10:10
phyerboss	greetings y'all	10:10
Arwen	james__, yes, make sure you don't let everyone read/write to the partition if it has your Windows install	10:10
Arwen	because then you could get r00tk1t5	10:10
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yonkeltron	wolferine: not really...it began with the ff sec upgrade awhile back	10:11
wolferine	hmm	10:11
Apollo^101	Yorokobi, all ubuntu and all the worlds repos	10:11
Apollo^101	i mean. i usualy want an app and its not in my repos. like reconstructor	10:11
Apollo^101	by the way. i just installed an app recontructor. how do i run it?	10:11
wolferine	i have had maybe two crashes in FF, in the past week	10:11
wolferine	have never duplicated the error	10:11
james__	Ar	10:11
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yonkeltron	wolferine: it happens several times...whenever ff loses focus...it goes down like a lead weight...	10:12
james__	Arwen: this is for sda1, not for hda1	10:12
Yorokobi	!source-o-matic \| Apollo^101	10:12
ubotu	Apollo^101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	10:12
wolferine	hmm	10:12
wolferine	do a launch in the shell	10:12
eXistenZ	hallo	10:12
wolferine	view the output on a crash	10:12
Arwen	james__, sdax and hdax mean nothing to me :-\ - but have at it	10:12
yonkeltron	wolferine: i was thinking about that...	10:12
wolferine	see the reasons for the failure	10:13
Arwen	if your ntfs-3g breaks something, then there's about 0 recovery chance, but it shouldn't be able to damage Win2000/XP NTFS	10:13
eXistenZ	ntfs-3g is quite stable.	10:13
zipper	!website	10:13
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about website - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:13
phyerboss	hey, once again I am getting that: "Another process is using the packaging system database(probably some other adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." error	10:13
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phyerboss	does anyone know how to clear that so I can get the updates that just popped up and run Adept?	10:14
eXistenZ	Arwen: What's your CPU temperature?	10:14
Yorokobi	phyerboss, 'ps wax \| grep adept' followed by 'sudo kill -9 <adept-pid>	10:14
Yorokobi	!fix apt \| phyerboss	10:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fix apt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:14
Yorokobi	!fix apept \| phyerboss	10:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about fix apept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	10:14
Yorokobi	0/2 ... sigh	10:15
Yorokobi	!fix adept \| phyerboss	10:15
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ubotu	phyerboss: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a	10:15
phyerboss	It seems to keep popping up everytime theres an update	10:15
yonkeltron	wolferine: of course now i can't get it to crash	10:15
wolferine	ha	10:15
wolferine	good	10:15
wolferine	run it in a shell all the time :)	10:15
Arwen	eXistenZ, um, don't know, somewhere around 40-60C	10:15
wolferine	im sure it will happen at some point	10:16
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eXistenZ	Arwen: How much memory do you have?	10:16
Arwen	512MB - why?	10:16
phyerboss	thanks i'll try those	10:16
Apollo^101	second thought: when i run reconstructor. it says No module named glade.... whats that?	10:16
eXistenZ	Arwen: I think I should get 1GB for kubuntu	10:16
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eXistenZ	it eats memory just like rice	10:16
Arwen	eXistenZ, meh, I have GNOME, but more memory is still nice :-\	10:16
jhutchins	phyerboss: That update notifier tool counts as a apt application, it locks the database.	10:17
Arwen	also, I need another hard drive :-\	10:17
eXistenZ	Arwen: Why not KDE?	10:17
Arwen	archiving entire TV series uses space :-\	10:17
zipper	Arwen, thats a filthy filthy lie!	10:17
zipper	:P	10:17
Arwen	eXistenZ, because the double-thickness panel is a turn off	10:17
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eXistenZ	Arwen: To tell you the truth, Gnome is nice, but crashes more than KDE>	10:17
vit_	hola	10:17
eXistenZ	I tried both	10:17
eXistenZ	KDE is quite heavy, but has nice applications	10:17
eXistenZ	everything's quite integrated.	10:18
adrian99	umm I was kinda wondering if theres a linux mic boost that will work for when Im using skype	10:18
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eXistenZ	adrian99: You can enable that in Kmix	10:18
Arwen	eXistenZ, yeah, but the fact is that there's more stuff on GNOME than KDE	10:18
eXistenZ	Arwen: stuff?	10:18
adrian99	Im not getting the option in the kmixer	10:19
Arwen	eXistenZ, yes, almost every gui program uses gtk, not qt	10:19
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vit_	hola	10:19
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adrian99	I have a feeling it has something to do with my Nvidia realtek audio	10:19
eXistenZ	Arwen: Well, you can include gtk in KDE, and I guess KDE has enough programs to get you on	10:19
vit_	hello	10:20
Arwen	true, but the kde panel is what keeps me away :-\	10:20
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Arwen	I like gnome-style double panels	10:20
adrian99	double panels are annoying	10:20
eXistenZ	double panels?	10:20
eXistenZ	ah	10:20
eXistenZ	separated ones	10:20
zipper	Is blackbox not getting updated anymore, or are there any other reasons that only a guide for fluxbox is in the ubuntu wiki?	10:20
srecko	I know this isn't kubuntu related, but just wanted to know how you people feel about those: sit-in-your-chair-and-earn-money-from-surfing companies	10:20
Arwen	eXistenZ, yes	10:21
zipper	srecko, wish i would get paid for doing that	10:21
adrian99	but still yea I don't have the mic boost option in the kmixer so I have s slight problem there	10:21
srecko	zipper: hehe :)	10:21
srecko	zipper: just bounced on agloco :P	10:22
eXistenZ	Arwen: Here's my KDE: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8058/ss5yd6.png . I enjoy it.	10:22
zipper	srecko, havent followed the chat, just saw your comment	10:22
Arwen	eXistenZ, yeah, I hate double panels	10:22
Arwen	or, double-thickness ones	10:22
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Arwen	also, that kde speaker icon always looked stupid to me	10:23
technikk`	<eXistenZ> your`s KDE sukZ :)	10:23
adrian99	the thickness is easy to change	10:23
eXistenZ	technikk`: why so? :)	10:23
technikk`	check this out	10:23
technikk`	http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5319/newlinuxtr8.png	10:23
Arwen	adrian99, dunno, won't it always be two layers? just smaller?	10:23
technikk`	this is my KDE	10:23
technikk`	:)	10:23
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eXistenZ	technikk`: Those integrated applets might kill my CPU	10:24
eXistenZ	It is already 50C, using the newest Zalman fan	10:24
Arwen	technikk`, wtf? it's 640x400 and still loading slowly	10:24
eXistenZ	technikk`: I prefer black on white + terminus terminal.	10:24
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eXistenZ	technikk`: and I hate that gradient gray panel	10:25
jhutchins	Funny, my kicker is only one layer, except the running-apps dock.	10:25
eXistenZ	it hurts my eyes	10:25
adrian99	Arwen all you do is right click the task bar go to configure taskbar and arrangement theres an option in there to shrink the size	10:25
Powerking89670	Anyone wish to help me set up a link from my var/www/ folder to a PHP folder on my desktop?	10:25
technikk`	and i don`t like icons on my desktop	10:25
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technikk`	:)	10:25
Arwen	adrian99, is it still 2 layers though? because I want one continuous linear panel	10:25
Powerking89670	I have the soft link made, it just doesnt show up	10:25
eXistenZ	technikk`: you may have a powerful cpu. What specs do you have?	10:25
slow-motion	hallo	10:25
Yorokobi	Arwen, the kde panel can be resized. When its smaller it is only one line high. You can also add panels and have one on top/one on the bottom.	10:25
adrian99	yur making no sense	10:25
james__	Arwen: where do i find out how to "global rw ????	10:26
technikk`	( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-3 Speed: 800.000 MHz Cache: 512 KB ] \| RAM Usage: 220/449M [\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|] ( 49.0% ) \| [ HD Model: ST9808210A Size: 73G with 65G Free ( 89.0% ) ] \| Number of process: 95	10:26
technikk`	but this is 2 stepping cpu	10:26
Arwen	james__, um... those are just mounting options in /etc/fstab	10:26
technikk`	2x800MHZ	10:26
eXistenZ	Sysinfo for 'amerdakka': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2999 MHz (5997 bogomips), , RAM: 497/503MB, 133 proc's, 1.6d up	10:26
technikk`	this is laptop	10:26
eXistenZ	133 procs :x	10:26
Yorokobi	I have that same proc, eXistenZ	10:26
eXistenZ	My RAM is dead	10:26
adrian99	so why would I be missing the mic boost from the kmixer anyway?	10:27
eXistenZ	I need another 512	10:27
Arwen	just make sure to add gid=<fuse group>,umask=007 under the options line	10:27
eXistenZ	technikk`: How can you keep up with so low RAM?	10:27
jhutchins	adrian99: Perhaps because your sound card lacks that feature, or the driver does not support it.	10:27
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james__	Arwen: where do i read about doing it,,global rw ???	10:27
eXistenZ	adrian99: Look in the options, you can add it.	10:27
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technikk`	eXistenZ it`s magic :)	10:28
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adrian99	my sound is onboard Nvidia realtek	10:28
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Arwen	james__, you FAIL	10:28
Arwen	!fstab \| james__	10:28
eXistenZ	jhutchins: Most cards (even old ones), support that feature.	10:28
ubotu	james__: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	10:28
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deian	hello again	10:28
adrian99	my board is a newer Socket AM2 gigabyte	10:28
james__	Arwen: Thanks a lot	10:29
deian	has anyone got a link to a list of fesity repositories and third party software?	10:29
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dromer	!qemu	10:29
ubotu	qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo	10:29
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quadrinista	hi	10:30
srecko	vmware is great, but expensive	10:30
adrian99	and I have no idea what options your talking about but I don't see anything like that	10:30
jhutchins	!xen	10:31
ubotu	XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy	10:31
dromer	srecko: I thaught vmware was free?	10:31
dromer	jhutchins: oeh ..	10:31
velle	could somebody help me get my Kubuntu play audio? I can not get it to play any kind of audio. It is a clean install.	10:31
dromer	velle: "any" kind? or mp3?	10:31
jhutchins	velle: Have you seen these:	10:31
dromer	!mp3	10:31
jhutchins	!mp3 \| velle	10:31
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	10:31
ubotu	velle: please see above	10:31
srecko	dromer: vmware player - which runs - but the thing that edits no :)	10:31
dromer	:)	10:31
dromer	srecko: "thing that edits" ?	10:31
srecko	workstation :)	10:32
Yorokobi	adrian99, in the kmix window there's a tab labeled Input with a Mic option that you can use to boost the mic	10:32
zipper	velle, you might want to play around with using OSS or ALSA if you cannot get any sound at all.	10:32
technikk`	<deian> try this list...http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/	10:32
velle	i will have a look at them, thanks	10:32
adrian99	Yorokobi yea I know its usually there but I don't have that option	10:32
srecko	dromer: for creating virtual machines. so, get a friend with full copy, and make him create stuff for you :)	10:32
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dromer	ok .. hmm	10:32
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srecko	dromer: google :)	10:33
technikk`	srecko des brate :)	10:33
dromer	well, I wasn't about to implement any virtual machine soon, perhaps when I get a faster CPU I can do some really stuff with VJ-ing and such	10:33
srecko	technikk`: hr?	10:33
technikk`	srecko...serbia	10:33
srecko	technikk`: a dobro, tolerantan sam ja ;) :P	10:34
srecko	salim se	10:34
technikk`	ma svi smo mi isti od krvi i mesa	10:34
technikk`	shta je bilo bilo je nismo mi zbog toga krivi	10:34
srecko	jeste :P	10:34
technikk`	:)	10:34
technikk`	peoples sorry for this...back to english:)	10:35
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srecko	yeah	10:35
srecko	technikk`: we should start an ex-yu channel here ;)	10:36
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technikk`	yes we can man :)	10:36
technikk`	but i dont like that yu shits	10:36
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technikk`	srecko how old r u?	10:37
Yorokobi	Let's keep southern slav politics etc. outta here, da?	10:37
srecko	technikk`: 14, why? :)	10:37
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srecko	da :P	10:38
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adrian99	2 things that should never be talked about are religion and politics cause it only leads to idiotic arguements	10:39
srecko	adrian99: yup	10:39
velle	dromer: Actually, any kind of audio, also wav. I have tried playing wav in vlc, but nothing comes out. And I have tried "cat pop.wav /dev/dsp" but I just get a lot of symbols in the shell.	10:39
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Yorokobi	velle, "cat pop.wav > /dev/dsp" (if that even works)	10:40
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adrian99	welcome to the club velle, only diff is I can play all file formates save for avi and mp3	10:40
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Sea_Master	adrian99 yes...we r all the same :)	10:40
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makuseru	how can i install kubuntu on a machine with only 12mb of ram?	10:41
makuseru	128*	10:41
velle	Yorokobi: Ahhh... it does not write the stuff on the screen, but still does not play audio	10:41
gnomefreak	makuseru: you might beable to but i have never tried that low of ram and ubuntu before	10:41
Yorokobi	makuseru, with 12MB ... slowly. With 128MB, the same way everyone else does.	10:41
adrian99	lol or in cli	10:42
gnomefreak	makuseru: you will however have to use the alternate install cd	10:42
makuseru	i have the alternate	10:42
gnomefreak	makuseru: if you have 128ram go for it	10:42
phyerboss	heh, thats odd adrian99...I can play avi and mp3...but no RECENTLY encoded mpegs	10:42
makuseru	it needs more than 128 to do the install from live cd	10:42
gnomefreak	yes	10:42
gnomefreak	256 is the spec iirc	10:42
makuseru	is there nothing like on fedora disks for computers with low memory where it installs term based	10:42
phyerboss	but everything else is playable...even .mov	10:42
adrian99	yea dunno why I have all the stuff I need installed to play mp3 but they just won't work	10:42
makuseru	no, it wont do it on this box and its 128	10:43
makuseru	how can i get a term to install manuallu?	10:43
makuseru	manually*	10:43
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gnomefreak	makuseru: you shouldnt have a problem installing from the alternate cd	10:43
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makuseru	well i am	10:44
makuseru	and its not the CD	10:44
gnomefreak	makuseru: if you do make sure its not the ISO or the cd. and make sure its not 7.04 as the specs have changed iirc	10:44
makuseru	i treid diffrent ones	10:44
makuseru	its dapper	10:44
makuseru	how can i get a term form the cd? with out booting it up?	10:44
gnomefreak	makuseru: than use alternate cd to install in server mode no GUI	10:44
makuseru	so i can install manually	10:44
makuseru	how do i do that?	10:45
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gnomefreak	makuseru: you have to boot the cd to install	10:45
makuseru	get it to server mode	10:45
makuseru	with no gui	10:45
gnomefreak	makuseru: its on the menu for the alternate cd	10:45
gnomefreak	makuseru: as soon as you boot the alternate cd you will see 6 choices (give or take) and you choose server	10:46
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gnomefreak	if the first choice is install or use than its not hte alternate cd	10:46
K`zan	Running the Feisty beta, after running the adept updater, it tells me there is a new version of KUbuntu and to click to upgrade now, there is no place to click?!?	10:46
makuseru	it is the alternate CD	10:47
K`zan	Any thoughts appreciated.	10:47
makuseru	cause thats the only ISO ive ever downloaded	10:47
Arwen	K`zan, um... probably a bug, just dist-upgrade from a terminal	10:47
gnomefreak	K`zan: are you going from one ubuntu to another?	10:47
K`zan	Arwen: Will give it a go, thanks!	10:47
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gnomefreak	makuseru: what happens when you try to boot to it	10:48
K`zan	Arwen: err, there is no dist-upgrade to Feisty, is there?!?	10:48
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Arwen	K`zan, wait, you're trying to go from edgy to feisty? I thought you already had feisty?	10:48
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makuseru	i get the choices "start or install" "start in safe graphis" "check cd" "mem test" boot from hd"	10:48
K`zan	Arwen: Yes, I am running Feisty (7.04)	10:48
gnomefreak	K`zan: yes there is but you have to run gksu "update-manager -d"	10:48
epzt	under edgy unable since 2 days to download pictures from my usb camera	10:48
gnomefreak	K`zan: are you on feisty already	10:49
Arwen	K`zan, so, dist-upgrade just acts like normal upgrade but smarter	10:49
gnomefreak	makuseru: thats desktop cd	10:49
Arwen	"sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"	10:49
K`zan	gnomefreak: Thanks. Will see what happens :-).	10:49
gnomefreak	masthats not the alternate	10:49
makuseru	yes it is	10:49
gnomefreak	makuseru: thats not the alternate	10:49
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Arwen	makuseru, you fail, that's the live cd	10:49
gnomefreak	matysek: not if its says START as there is nothing to start	10:49
gnomefreak	makuseru: that is for you not matysek	10:50
Arwen	gnomefreak, tab completion problems? :-)	10:50
gnomefreak	Arwen: yes	10:50
makuseru	i only DL the alternaticve, cause thats the only one i can ever fin d as a torrent	10:50
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gnomefreak	makuseru: you downloaded the desktop/livecd	10:50
matysek	gnomefreak: ok LOL	10:50
Yorokobi	makuseru, all of them are available as .torrents	10:50
gnomefreak	makuseru: but do as you with	10:50
Arwen	makuseru, you failed, because if it has "start/install" it's not a live cd	10:50
makuseru	i downladed the "alternat instalation"	10:50
gnomefreak	Arwen: it is live cd	10:51
makuseru	i still have the ISO	10:51
Arwen	gnomefreak, sorry, typo	10:51
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gnomefreak	you cant STARY alternate cd	10:51
gnomefreak	START*	10:51
Arwen	makuseru, md5sum the CD, I bet it's the wrong one	10:51
Arwen	the iso*	10:51
K`zan	Humm, update-manager -d says my system is up to date. The Kubuntu I have is OK, so I am just not going to worry about it :-).	10:52
gnomefreak	alternate cd first menu item == INSTALL	10:52
gnomefreak	K`zan: dont use that	10:52
gnomefreak	K`zan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	10:52
Arwen	K`zan, ^^	10:52
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K`zan	gnomefreak: Did that and ran it.	10:52
gnomefreak	K`zan: sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	10:52
gnomefreak	K`zan: what does uname -r say	10:53
epzt	under edgy unable since 2 days to download pictures from my usb camera	10:53
Arwen	makuseru, this is the torrent you want: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent	10:53
_dennis_	i have some problems with unrar	10:53
ssickle_	Does kubuntu have a good cad tool like SolidEdge?	10:53
_dennis_	i installed unrar, and i try sudo unrar -e file.rar, but this doesn't seems to work	10:53
Sea_Master	i was installed mplayer thrue apt-get but my mplayer dosn`t start`s, i`m not geting any errors nothing just no starting :\	10:53
Arwen	_dennis_, the syntax is unrar x file.rar	10:53
david_	http://www.pastebin.ca	10:53
K`zan	uname -r	10:53
K`zan	2.6.20	10:53
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Arwen	Sea_Master, start "gmplayer" from a terminal and see if it appears	10:54
_dennis_	tnx Arwen	10:54
Arwen	and if not, look at the errors	10:54
Arwen	_dennis_, :-)	10:54
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gnomefreak	K`zan: than the normal apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade will tell you if ther eis any and it will grab them	10:54
Arwen	K`zan, so you already have feisty - tp get your updates/patches, do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	10:54
gnomefreak	did he install mplayer or kmplayer did he get them from repos is he on edgy	10:55
Sea_Master	Failed to open device	10:55
Sea_Master	[skin] file ( /usr/share/mplayer/skins/default/skin ) not found.	10:55
Sea_Master	Skin not found (default).	10:55
Sea_Master	wtf?	10:55
K`zan	gnomefreak: Arwen I guess it is a bug in the updater, nothing to update...	10:55
Arwen	K`zan, hmm	10:55
gnomefreak	K`zan: maybe your repos?	10:55
Yorokobi	Sea_Master, 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins'	10:55
Arwen	Sea_Master, uh, check that mplayer-skins is installed	10:55
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gnomefreak	it will happen if all you have enabled is cdrom	10:56
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gnomefreak	cdrom and main are enabled by default	10:56
gnomefreak	you cant have the 2 work together	10:56
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gnomefreak	update-manager thinks you are using main but your sources.list defaults to cdrom	10:57
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K`zan	Arwen: When Adept updater is done and the only option is [Quit] , this is in the middle of the window: "A new version of Kubuntu is available! Click nest if you wish to upgrade now." No [Next] button. No big deal Feisty/Kubuntu is doing just fine here.	10:57
Arwen	K`zan, ok	10:57
K`zan	s/nest/next	10:57
K`zan	Just cornfuzing is all :-)	10:58
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Yorokobi	K`zan, purge adept and be free	10:58
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Hirs	is there a way to connect networkmanager before login?	11:01
Yorokobi	Hirs, wireless?	11:01
Hirs	Yorokobi: yes	11:02
Hirs	Yorokobi: it matters?	11:02
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Yorokobi	Hirs, if your wifi connection is WEP/WPA then no. networkmanager needs to open the wallet to get the passkey. The wallet can only be opened after logging in to KDE	11:02
Yorokobi	Hirs, yes, it matters. A wired connection is configured at boot, wireless is not.	11:03
Hirs	Yorokobi: it doesn't have wep	11:03
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K`zan	Yorokobi: :-) if I purge adept, I'd have to learn something :) LOL!	11:07
polly1	Hello	11:07
Yorokobi	K`zan, synaptic is a better tool (IMHO) than adept. The only thing you really end up losing is the tray icon and the headache.	11:07
polly1	Is it possible for me to connect to my uncles ubuntu desktop over the internet/	11:08
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croki	bonsoir	11:09
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croki	je viens de passer de ubuntu a kubuntu et j'ai quelques soucis	11:09
croki	ou trouver le kynaptic?	11:09
mrigns	!fr \| croki	11:10
ubotu	croki: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	11:10
polly1	Anyone familiar with remote desktops?	11:10
K`zan	Yorokobi: I'll look at synaptic again, it didn't seem as "clear" when it tried it before.	11:10
Yorokobi	K`zan, :) you could try the my package manager of choice: dselect. You'll be thoroughly confused then	11:10
K`zan	Yorokobi: Like I need more of that ;-).	11:11
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jhutchins	polly1: Yes, if your uncle's desktop is running the correct services and it's not blocked by a firewall at either end.	11:12
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jhutchins	!vnc \| polly1	11:13
ubotu	polly1: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX	11:13
firecrotch	I'm trying to run Firefox 3 alpha 3, but it just keeps opening my existing firefox2	11:13
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jhutchins	firecrotch: You used Mozilla's installer?	11:14
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firecrotch	jhutchins: I downloaded the tarball that the alpha3 page said to use	11:14
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jhutchins	firecrotch: Was there some part of "alpha" that you didn't get?	11:18
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jhutchins	firecrotch: Seriously, if you can't figure out how to start the software you just installed, you have no business messing with alpha software. That's not a flame, just reality.	11:19
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jhutchins	It's doing exactly what it should be expected to do.	11:20
firecrotch	jhutchins: how so? It should be running alpha 3, not firefox2	11:21
jhutchins	firecrotch: It preserved your existing, presumably functional install, because alpha sofware is expected not to work.	11:21
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polly1	ubotu: The remote desktop that is installed with ubuntu/kubuntu will not automatically support incoming and outgoing connections?	11:23
firecrotch	!bot \| polly1	11:24
ubotu	polly1: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	11:24
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coty	I just downloaded firefox 2 off the firefox site for linux but i have no idea on how to install it without adept manager	11:26
Yorokobi	coty, are you using dapper ?	11:26
coty	6.06	11:26
Yorokobi	that'd be a yes	11:26
coty	yep	11:26
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Yorokobi	coty, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion	11:28
coty	thanks	11:28
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virtual_mage	can someone help me i have a trouble instaling graphic driver	11:29
jhutchins	!ati \| virtual_mage	11:30
ubotu	virtual_mage: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	11:30
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shr3ya5	need some help	11:31
virtual_mage	i did try everything i could find ,use envy,easy ubuntu,do it manualy	11:31
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virtual_mage	still it still dont work always have tu return to the nv one	11:31
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shr3ya5	is there any way to install kubuntu 7.04 beta on a core 2 duo machine with a 946 motherboard?	11:32
shr3ya5	its stuck at loading hardware drivers	11:32
coty	Yorokobi: it tells me i need to extract the firefox 2 that i downloaded to opt but when i try it says i dont have the right permissions	11:33
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Yorokobi	shr3ya5, at the LiveCD menu, press F6 then the up/down arrow to select the first option, append noprobe to the command listed at the bottom and then press enter to boot the LiveCD.	11:33
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shr3ya5	alright.. will be back if it dont work	11:33
shr3ya5	thanks	11:33
shr3ya5	:D	11:33
Yorokobi	coty, you should probably do the copying as root (sudo cp ...)	11:34
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Yorokobi	I'm curious to see if that works for shr3ya5 ... :o	11:34
pollyo	Will Krfb run on a Gnome system?	11:34
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coty	Yorokobi: how do i do the copy as root	11:37
Sea_Master	sudo cp	11:37
Yorokobi	sudo cp <therestofthestory>	11:37
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coty	what does the thing in <> mean	11:37
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coty	is that suposse to mean the rest of the story	11:38
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\|Iwonder\|	lol	11:38
Yorokobi	coty, its meant to represent the remainder of the cp command	11:38
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coty	Yorokobi: i have no idea what that would be	11:39
pirothezero	how can I make sure apt-get/synaptic is not running?	11:39
shr3ya5	Yorokobi: man, this thing reboots when i use noprobe	11:39
Yorokobi	coty, isn't it in the instructions on the web page?	11:39
pirothezero	trying to install stuff and it says its in use	11:39
pirothezero	when I know its not since i am not installing anything	11:39
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wolferine	need a hand applying my mount setting to fstab, can someone help me, I did the following: sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //profserver/profx /mnt/server/	11:40
Yorokobi	shr3ya5, well, it was worth a shot. You could try "acpi=off" (or is it noacpi?) ...	11:40
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coty	yorokobi: sudo tar xzvf firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz -C /opt	11:40
shr3ya5	Yorokobi: i guess both are used	11:40
adrian99	weee I just installed beryl and it worked first try	11:40
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wolferine	drian99> welcome	11:40
Yorokobi	shr3ya5, using both won't hurt ... much :)	11:41
shr3ya5	Yorokobi: Lets see man.. none of the distros working with me.. sabayon suse fc6	11:41
adrian99	its weird though the effects are going like hyper fast lol	11:41
shr3ya5	Yorokobi: I'm stuck with XP :((	11:41
Yorokobi	shr3ya5, I have yet to be able to use any distro with my AMD 64 X2 system. XP was hard enough to install on it :)	11:42
wolferine	and //profserver/profx /mnt/server auto auto,rw 0 0	11:42
wolferine	but that didnt mount it on restart	11:42
pollyo	How do I determine my ip address for remote connections when I have a router and an internal network ip ?	11:42
wolferine	pollyo, www.whatismyip.com	11:42
shr3ya5	Yorokobi: Whats the deal with new computers and linux? XP/Vista install without conflicts	11:42
Yorokobi	pollyo, n=pollyo@c-68-81-43-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net	11:42
pollyo	wolferine: Would I then need to setup port forwarding on my router?	11:43
wolferine	pollyo, what are you trying to do?	11:43
Yorokobi	shr3ya5, I think my problem is the combination of two SATA RAID arrays and SLI	11:43
luckyone	please help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14090/	11:43
shr3ya5	i'm using IDE, i remove the SATA RAID while installing linux	11:43
Yorokobi	coty, that command should work, yes. (sorry for the delay)	11:43
pollyo	wolferine: I want to be able to connect to my desktop from my uncles house and from his house I want to be able to connect to my desktop.	11:44
shr3ya5	Yorokobi: brb.. gonna try out some more parameters i found.. lol	11:44
wolferine	pollyo, using waht?	11:44
pollyo	wolferine: Anything.	11:44
pollyo	wolferine: Even using the ssh I have to know the IP address.	11:44
Yorokobi	luckyone, have you consulted http://httpd.apache.org/ ??	11:45
wolferine	well, you have to be more specific	11:45
wolferine	as each will probably use a different port	11:45
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pollyo	wolferine: I'm looking for any method at this point. I was looking at VNCoverSSH.	11:45
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wolferine	so just ssh?	11:46
pollyo	wolferine: It was discussing ip addressess and I realized that I didn't know how to determine my real ip. Or an easy way to determine my uncles from here.	11:46
wolferine	ask your uncle	11:46
Yorokobi	pollyo, I use freenx (http://www.nomachine.com/)	11:46
wolferine	you cannot tell what his IP is, only from his computer	11:47
pollyo	wolferine: HE would have no idea. So I can just direct him to whatismyip.com or whatever the link was.	11:47
wolferine	and you didnt answer my question	11:47
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pollyo	wolferine: I did. I noted VNCoverSSH.	11:47
luckyone	Yorokobi: oh yes, and #apache	11:47
wolferine	<wolferine> so just ssh?	11:47
wolferine	i dont like to repeat	11:47
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pollyo	wolferine: Just prior to that I noted VNCoverSSH	11:48
Yorokobi	pollyo, wolferine already suggested http://whatismyip.com to find out what both of your IPs are	11:48
cox377	Yorokobi: whats freenx?	11:48
jhutchins	I used to have a script that posted my IP to a web page periodically, that way I could connect even if it changed.	11:48
pollyo	Yorkobi: Yes. I noted that.	11:48
jhutchins	There's also a service called dyndns.org that will assign a hostname to your dynamic address.	11:48
wolferine	ok, well, I notice you dont want to reply	11:48
Yorokobi	cox377, FreeNX uses ssh and X11 forwarding ... sorta VNC over SSH.	11:48
wolferine	sorry, dont think I can help	11:48
cox377	Yorokobi: sounds sweet,	11:48
pollyo	wolferine: OK	11:48
wolferine	gl	11:49
Yorokobi	cox377, its great	11:49
cox377	is it available via apt-get?	11:49
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Yorokobi	cox377, no, but the website has ubuntu-compatible debs available	11:49
pollyo	jhutchins: Is that a fee based service?	11:50
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cox377	Yorokobi: oooo will have to give it a go	11:50
cox377	Yorokobi: : )	11:50
nonuda	if i sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, x seems stop but i got a blank screen with a cursor blinking and i run any command line from there (there no console prompt), how do i fix it?	11:50
jhutchins	pollyo: Dunno, but there are free ones.	11:50
pollyo	jhutchins: : Ok Thank you.	11:50
Yorokobi	nonuda, use Alt-F1 to get a console	11:50
jhutchins	nonuda: Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6]	11:50
nonuda	ok..thanks	11:51
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martin_	hallo	11:52
wolferine	if I want a user to be able to mount a drive (samba), do I have do mount it as sudo always?	11:52
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jhutchins	wolferine: user in the options in fstab.	11:55
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wolferine	still doesnt do it	11:55
wolferine	access denied error	11:55
jhutchins	!fstab \| wolferine	11:55
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ubotu	wolferine: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions	11:55
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wolferine	honstly, I really dont need the fstab link	11:56
wolferine	but thanks	11:56
tony1	hola	11:56
nonuda	what is linux kernel version for this common-20060325-linux-i386 file need to run?	11:56
tony1	yes	11:57
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jhutchins	wolferine: man fstab	11:57
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wolferine	ha	11:58
wolferine	funny guy	11:58
wolferine	if I can sudo mount it manaully	11:58
wolferine	then edit my fstab	11:58
wolferine	do a umount	11:58
wolferine	then try and mount with the fstab changes	11:58
wolferine	i get access denied	11:58
wolferine	so thats something in my fstab I guess?	11:59
david_	wolferine: are you trying to mount in (when it's in fstab) as root?	11:59
wolferine	ill paste	11:59
wolferine	sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //profserver/profx /mnt/server/ <-- works	11:59
wolferine	so	11:59
wolferine	sudo umount /mnt/server/	11:59
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wolferine	then edit fstab, adding: //profserver/profx /mnt/server smbfs auto,user,rw 0 0	12:00
wolferine	then I sudo mount /mnt/server	12:00
wolferine	and get: 21916: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)	12:00
david_	try the auto,users,defaults	12:01
david_	*try changing the options to "auto,users,defaults"	12:01
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\|Iwonder\|	sounds like server is denying you	12:01
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david_	is the server password protected?	12:01
wolferine	i can get on with the first (manual) mount though	12:01
cox377	Yorokobi: you up for a few questions?	12:01
jhutchins	wolferine: You might also try "rw,noauto,user,defaults"	12:01
wolferine	:/	12:01
cox377	Yorokobi: : )	12:01
wolferine	once fstab is changed, save, then I should be able to mount?	12:02
jhutchins	wolferine: Are your username and password valid on the windows box?	12:02
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wolferine	sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //profserver/profx /mnt/server/ <-- works (w.o a username/password)	12:02
jhutchins	wolferine: That's what you're going to find out. No need to restart or anything.	12:02
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david_	wolferine: yes, but sometimes there're ever so slight syntax changes between the manual mount and fstab	12:03
Yorokobi	cox377, sure	12:03
jhutchins	Sometimes the system passes the current username and password when it requests a network connection.	12:03
cox377	i'm a little confursed where to start with this freenx	12:03
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david_	if possible change //name/ to //IP/ I had some issues when setting my system up like that	12:04
wolferine	so how do I edit the fstab to incluse the user/pass?	12:04
cox377	i've downloaded nxclient / nxplugin / nxserver	12:04
wolferine	k, ill try david_	12:04
cox377	Yorokobi: i'm assuming i install the server part first	12:04
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wolferine	smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)	12:04
wolferine	smbmnt failed: 1	12:04
wolferine	thats what I got when I changed to IP	12:05
karmax	hello, what is the best way to TEST baghira on kubuntu?	12:05
david_	ooh	12:05
wolferine	but its just //IP/profx	12:05
david_	that may be positive actually	12:05
karmax	i just want to try it	12:05
wolferine	not /home/profx	12:05
jhutchins	wolferine: add user=<user>,password=<password> to the options.	12:05
cox377	Yorokobi: sorry mate, what next.. not registered	12:05
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Yorokobi	cox377, k, 'sudo dpkg -i nx*.deb' it'll install them in the correct order	12:06
jhutchins	wolferine: //<server>/<sharename> - doesn't matter where the share actually is on the server.	12:06
wolferine	ah	12:06
wolferine	so I added user and pass, into options, and changed to IP, not servername	12:06
jhutchins	and?	12:07
cox377	Yorokobi: nice one dude, brb	12:07
wolferine	same error as above	12:07
wolferine	smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)	12:07
wolferine	smbmnt failed: 1	12:07
jhutchins	What I actually use is credentials=/etc/samba/<file>	12:07
david_	karmax: create a new user and do it there.	12:07
jhutchins	WEll, there you go.	12:07
jhutchins	Says EXACTLY what the problem is.	12:08
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wolferine	why does my one liner mount then?	12:08
karmax	david_, ok, just download the baghira source, compile it... etc?	12:08
jhutchins	wolferine: Nature of sudo.	12:08
Yorokobi	wolferine, your one-liner mount is prefixed with sudo	12:08
david_	as his his mount -a ...the difference is one has the "user" flag set	12:08
wolferine	i am mounting as sudo also though	12:09
david_	which matches up with the error message	12:09
karmax	david_, i dont know if there is some deb package, or it is best to download it from the cvs... etc	12:09
jhutchins	wolferine: Try this: sodo -i	12:09
Yorokobi	last I checked, setting the S flag on smbmount/smbumount was discouraged	12:09
jhutchins	wolferine: then mount -a	12:09
wolferine	sudo -i?	12:09
jhutchins	Yes, sorry.	12:10
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wolferine	ok	12:10
david_	if that fails, try removing the "user" option in your fstab I think that's causing the warning/error	12:10
wolferine	does nothing	12:10
david_	(it gets a bit confusing when 200 people start trying to give you different tech support :-P )	12:11
wolferine	so just: //profserver/profx /mnt/server smbfs rw,noauto,user,defaults 0 0	12:11
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wolferine	thats all I have fallen back on	12:11
david_	/profserver/profx /mnt/server smbfs rw,noauto,defaults 0 0	12:11
david_	go for that	12:11
david_	see what happens	12:11
jhutchins	wolferine: It should return nothing if there are no errors, you need to do mount again to see what it mounted.	12:11
cox377	Yorokobi: http://rafb.net/p/2Holg050.html	12:12
cox377	Yorokobi: thats the error msg i get	12:12
wolferine	yeah, j, its not in there	12:12
jhutchins	Oh, shoot, mount -a probably doesn't do the noauto mounts.	12:12
jhutchins	mount <mountpoint> instead.	12:12
david_	*sudo mount <mountpoitn>	12:12
jhutchins	david_No, he's already sudo -i	12:12
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wolferine	im su already :P	12:12
Yorokobi	cox377, looks like you should install the client, the node, then the server	12:12
david_	yeah, just noticed my bad	12:12
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jhutchins	So?	12:13
jhutchins	Does it work?	12:13
wolferine	22577: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)	12:13
wolferine	SMB connection failed	12:13
jhutchins	I have like less than two minutes left.	12:13

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