[12:12] <mihi_ignosce> dauoalagio2, are you using edgy or dapper?
[12:12] <dauoalagio2> edgy
[12:12] <mihi_ignosce> dauoalagio2, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-356.php
[12:13] <dauoalagio2> thank you mihi_ignosce
[12:13] <mihi_ignosce> dauoalagio2, np
[12:13] <BluesKaj> dauoalagio2,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:13] <mihi_ignosce> KDE 3.5.6 is not in the normal edgy repos
[12:13] <junocdx> Can you use dual monitors in Kubuntu with an ATI card?
[12:14] <Photon> i need help in Kdevelop, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943/
[12:14] <BluesKaj> well , i assume ppl have added repos to the basic sources list , just thru usage
[12:15] <Photon> now what should i do?
[12:15] <mihi_ignosce> junocdx, yes. How? I don't know. I've seen it done though.
[12:15] <pollyo> Are the packages adept installs in deb format?
[12:17] <mihi_ignosce> pollyo, yes
[12:17] <Photon> i need help in Kdevelop, i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13943/
[12:18] <Photon> k solved the problem
[12:19] <Photon> :)
[12:19] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I don't know how I missed your response to me earlier, but you said "you need to have a samba user to authenticate" ...can you elaborate?
[12:19] <danny500> I need help getting access to my Windows XP drive from my linux drive, any suggestions?
[12:19] <Laconic> !ntfs-3g > danny500
[12:19] <BluesKaj> danny500 , install ntfs-3g
[12:19] <Laconic> !mount > danny500
[12:20] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: you need to have a unix account and then create a samba user for that account and then use that username from windows
[12:20] <cpk1> sudo smbpasswd -L -a aaroncampbell and sudo smbpasswd -L -e aaroncampbell if you were doing yourself
[12:20] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I want ANY windows computer connected to the network to be able to access it
[12:21] <LiveCD_ian> Does anybody know of any reasons why lspci only finds 1 of 2 vga adapters ?
[12:23] <Laconic> LiveCD_ian, are you using the LiveCD or an installed version of Kubuntu?
[12:24] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: I am using the LiveCD at the moment, but i had a full install earlier and  it was the same.
[12:25] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: Would it normally make a difference ?
[12:26] <Laconic> LiveCD_ian, the LiveCD does not have nvidia-glx support so the question, in the context of using a LiveCD is moot as you can't use both cards. That being said, there may be a different identifier for the 2nd GPU in lspci
[12:27] <jager> who can help me get sound out of flash?
[12:27] <jager> i get video no problem but i've never had sound on this machine
[12:28] <jager> any information you need to help diagnose just ask, i'll provide it
[12:28] <klam> need these gone    2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN Solutions1981@hotmail.com or aim: solutions1981
[12:28] <h0ax> is there a command like apt-get command for beryl ?
[12:28] <jager> this is kubuntu edgy btw
[12:28] <Laconic> !flash | jager
[12:28] <ubotu> jager: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:28] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[12:28] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: ok, but you still need to authenticate yourself, any user WILL be able to access it still
[12:28] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: I see, so it might not state that its VGA in lspci ?
[12:28] <jager> flash 9 is installed and seems to work very well
[12:29] <jager> from adobe.com's tarball
[12:29] <Laconic> LiveCD_ian, that's possible. I'd have to try it on my SLI machine before I could answer definitively
[12:29] <jager> only it has no sound, it never has sound on this machine
[12:29] <h0ax> cpk1:  is there a command like apt-get command for beryl ?
[12:29] <jager> doing the exact same thing on *other* machines and i get sound a video
[12:29] <Laconic> h0ax, edgy or feisty?
[12:29] <jager> something about this one makes sound fail
[12:30] <h0ax> i dunno :S
[12:30] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I need to specify a password for this?
[12:30] <Laconic> jager, no sound at all? from anything?
[12:30] <aaroncampbell> or should it be left blank to allow anyone
[12:30] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: use the unix password
[12:30] <jager> i get no sound from flash videos in firefox or konqueror
[12:30] <h0ax> Laconic:  i dunno which it is
[12:30] <jager> all other sound seems to work as expected
[12:31] <Laconic> h0ax, what does uname -r give you?
[12:31] <h0ax> 2.6.15
[12:31] <h0ax> -28-286
[12:32] <deian> hi ppl, who's on feisty??
[12:32] <klam> need these gone    2 dell xps m1710 350 for one 500 for 2, 1 apple macbook black for 600 MSN Solutions1981@hotmail.com or aim: solutions1981
[12:32] <nixternal> deian: I am
[12:32] <jager> Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31 is listed in about:plugins in konqueror
[12:32] <Laconic> h0ax, you have egdy, in which case the answer is yes with reservations. See the wiki on beryl-project.org
[12:32] <deian> can we have a quick chat
[12:32] <h0ax> do you know the command Laconic ?
[12:32] <nixternal> deian: sure
[12:32] <deian> wanna pick ur brains
[12:32] <nixternal> there isn't much there, I have been studying for my Philosophy and Logic class tonight
[12:32] <jager> you have to modify your sources.list h0ax, go read the wiki he pointed you to
[12:33] <Laconic> h0ax, ... you may have dapper with that kernel, not edgy
[12:33] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: Ok, I did that, and I was prompted for the root password, and then a SMB password (twice).  I used my login password for the smb password.  Then I restarted samba, but I still get the same error from the windows box.
[12:33] <Laconic> h0ax, either way, you should look at the wiki on beryl-project.org
[12:33] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:34] <Ace2016> does the kubuntu live cd installer have shred on it?
[12:34] <deian> when the kubuntu boots, how do i get it in verbose mode? like in suse u press 'esc'
[12:34] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: specifying the correct username from windows?
[12:34] <nixternal> Laconic: that is a Dapper kernel, UNLESS...he did a dist-upgrade to Edgy, the kernel may not have followed
[12:34] <LiveCD_ian> Laconic: Thanks for your time. I really hope i can get this to work, i spent 2000 pounds on this project
[12:34] <arafat> deian: CTRL+ALT+F1
[12:34] <deian> ohhh
[12:34] <Ace2016> i really don't want to have to burn DBAN a 2mb iso to a dvd!!! so i can just wipe my harddisks
[12:34] <cpk1> h0ax: do 'lsb_release -a' to find out what version of ubuntu you have
[12:34] <nixternal> deian: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the quiet
[12:34] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: That's the thing...I don't want anyone to need to specify a username/pass
[12:34] <Ace2016> what did you spend 2000 on?
[12:35] <deian> excellent
[12:35] <jager> all sound fixes i see seem to be for flash 7
[12:35] <deian> something else too...
[12:35] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: and besides...I'm never given the chance to enter one
[12:35] <jager> not 9
[12:35] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: try specifying just a username with a blank password
[12:35] <nixternal> deian: kernel          /vmlinuz-2.6.20-13-generic root=UUID=0a6e4957-5b03-46f1-885c-1c3623f684a3 ro
[12:35] <h0ax> cpk1: dapper
[12:35] <nixternal> that is how my boot looks in the kernel, I removed the splash and the quiet so I can see everything it is doing
[12:35] <deian> i assume since i installed beta, and got all the daily updates, i've got the final version by now?
[12:35] <nixternal> deian: yes
[12:35] <nixternal> not the final version, but the latest
[12:35] <deian> nixternal: yes it's nice to see what is happenin
[12:36] <Ace2016> jager: flash 9's sould has worked fine for me, maybe there are only tips for flash 7 since there were lots of problems with it, i had to use artsdsp to get it to work ok
[12:36] <nixternal> there are still a few more weeks of fixing and tweaking to do with Feisty
[12:36] <deian> it will eventually lead to the final version right?
[12:36] <nixternal> yup
[12:36] <nixternal> I have been dist-upgrading since breezy
[12:36] <deian> it still satisfies more than suse for me
[12:36] <jager> i remember using that tip in firefoxrc with 7, and it did work, but with 9 nothing has helpe
[12:36] <jager> d
[12:36] <nixternal> I usually dist-upgrade 2 to 3 weeks after the development repos open
[12:36] <alphi_> anyone know how i can get the 'mkinitrd' command ?
[12:36] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I'm never offered the chance
[12:37] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: are you using wins?
[12:37] <h0ax> Night all .
[12:37] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: ?
[12:37] <nixternal> alphi_: initrd-tools
[12:37] <deian> where can i get a list of the 'other' repositories?
[12:37] <alphi_> awesome, thanks
[12:37] <nixternal> !sources
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:38] <deian> does it have libdvdcss2?
[12:38] <deian> and flash for firefox?
[12:38] <nixternal> one of the devs has a super list that shows all of them as well
[12:38] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: have you mapped the network drive for the samba share from windows yet?
[12:38] <nixternal> deian: if you are using feisty, then universe and multiverse are already enabled
[12:38] <deian> they are in there?
[12:38] <nixternal> flash for firefox =>   flashplugin_nonfree
[12:39] <deian> i'll go see now
[12:39] <nixternal> flash for firefox =>   flashplugin-nonfree
[12:39] <nixternal> I typo'd that
[12:39] <nixternal> libdvdcss2 is located somewhere, can't remember though
[12:39] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: not sure what that means.  I can see the computer in the workgroup, but I click on it, I get that error...same if I hit start->run-> "\\aaron-linux"
[12:39] <nixternal> !libdvdcss2
[12:39] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:39] <nixternal> deian: ^^
[12:40] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: go to start > right click my computer > then map network drive
[12:41] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:41] <Ace2016> anyone know how to get shred to delete files as well as go into the dirs?
[12:41] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: if you are using wins with samba then you can specify it by name otherwise use the ip
[12:41] <deian> can't find the flash plugin ppl?
[12:42] <nixternal> flashplugin-nonfree is the name of it
[12:42] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: how can I set up wins?
[12:42] <deian> closest thing i see is libflash-mozplugin
[12:43] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: is it just another package?  Or more configuration?  both?
[12:43] <RaNDyMyZe> deian: enable multiverse
[12:43] <deian> let me go investigate the list then
[12:44] <RaNDyMyZe> deian: what version of kubuntu are you running?  this is for feisty
[12:44] <nixternal> RaNDyMyZe: fesity
[12:44] <nixternal> RaNDyMyZe: also edgy has it as well
[12:44] <nixternal> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[12:44] <cpk1> aaroncampbell: its a line in smb.conf... you probably need to spend more time making sure you have correctly configured samba first...
[12:44] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:44] <nixternal> hrmm, I thought they had v9 in edgy, guess I was wrong
[12:45] <nixternal> !info flashplugin-nonfree feisty
[12:45] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.31.0.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)
[12:45] <nixternal> man that bot is slow
[12:46] <nixternal> it is definitely there
[12:46] <aaroncampbell> cpk1: I still get the same error when connecting...and this way allowed me to specify the correct username/pass, but it made no difference
[12:48] <deian> ok next question is...
[12:48] <aaroncampbell> I thought maybe there was a firewall or something, but iptables -L shows 3 chains, all set to ACCEPT with no exceptions
[12:48] <deian> where is my windows partition?
[12:49] <deian> don't seem to be mounted by default
[12:50] <nixternal> deian: hopefully it got wiped out, but if it didn't :) you need to check
[12:50] <junocdx> where is xorg.conf?
[12:50] <junocdx> i forgot the directory
[12:50] <nixternal> fdisk
[12:50] <nixternal> heh, forgot to add that
[12:51] <deian> it's still on the harddrive, i just want to access my itunes music (non drm ones of course)
[12:52] <nixternal> deian: pata or sata hard drive?
[12:52] <nixternal> actually, I dunno how to mount a winblows drive, maybe someone else does though :)
[12:52] <RaNDyMyZe> junocdx: xorg.conf is in /etc/X11/
[12:53] <jager> hey i got it!
[12:53] <RaNDyMyZe> junocdx: make sure you back it up before changing it
[12:53] <calamari> hi
[12:53] <jager> there is a recent post on the forums describing exactly my problem with flash sound and how to fix it
[12:53] <jager> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2392024
[12:53] <calamari> is there a way to make the desktop icons smaller?
[12:53] <jager> in case any other have similar problems
[12:53] <deian> saya
[12:53] <deian> sata even
[12:53] <deian> i don't know either, linux is still a but mysterious to me
[12:54] <jager> i'm very pleased, this has been nagging me since flash9 was release, months ago
[12:54] <junocdx> anyone have any experiance with aticonfig?
[12:55] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to convert a wav/flac to WMA in linux?
[12:55] <chijin> yurimxpxman: there are better formats than wma :-)
[12:56] <cpk1> yurimxpxman: ffmpeg should
[12:56] <yurimxpxman> cpk1: how would I use ffmpeg to do it?
[12:56] <yurimxpxman> chijin: I know that. I'm just trying to compare the different codecs
[12:56] <cpk1> something like ffmpeg -i nameof.flac newfile.wma
[12:57] <cpk1> that should work yurimxpxman
[12:57] <Sanne> calamari: system settings/appearance/icons/advanced (that's where it is in Dapper)
[12:58] <deian> so anyone here clued up on mounting windows partition
[12:58] <jager> how many of you guys use konqueror for your primary browser?
[12:58] <cpk1> deian: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/partition /media/somefolder
[12:58] <cpk1> i do jager
[12:59] <deian> ohhh
[12:59] <deian> that simple
[12:59] <deian> ?
[12:59] <cpk1> deian: you need to know the dev point
[12:59] <jager> anything it consistantly can't do cpk1?
[12:59] <junocdx> cpk1: is there safe, effective ntfs support that allows you to read and write?
[12:59] <deian> sda/??? ?
[12:59] <jager> junocdx: look into ntfs-3g
[01:00] <VSpike> !ntfs-3g | junocdx
[01:00] <ubotu> junocdx: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:00] <cpk1> you can read safely no matter what, I dont think you can ever say that writing is "safe"
[01:00] <cpk1> deian: it can be on sda, but you still need a number so it would be /dev/sda1 or somesuch
[01:00] <jager> why not cpk1?  is ntfs-3g still not ready for prime time?
[01:01] <junocdx> anyone have any experiance with aticonfig?
[01:01] <zerothis> is it possible to run OSX (darwin) apps in Ubuntu?
[01:01] <junocdx> or can tell me how to run different resolutions on my dual monitors?
[01:01] <cpk1> there still is a chance it can lose data jager so technically you can never be 100% sure with it
[01:01] <zerothis> jager: i've run ntfs-3g on 2 different computer without problems
[01:01] <jager> i've not had any problems either
[01:02] <tux> hi guys
[01:02] <jager> well whatever then, ymmv i guess but it has worked for me
[01:02] <jager> hi tux
[01:03] <tux> how can i find out my wireless lan macadress
[01:03] <alphi_> is there any way to RTAI patch a kernel without re-installing it ?
[01:03] <zerothis> ntfs-3g hasn't lost any of my data yet. however, windows has lost my data many times
[01:03] <jager> ifconfig -a?
[01:04] <deian> how do i know where windows is mounted?
[01:04] <Daboone72> Looks like I'm going to be a kubuntu convert. Good job on the installer am well impressed.
[01:04] <deian> cos in feisty they are remaned hda to sda right?
[01:05] <zerothis> deian: winecfg
[01:06] <deian> enlighten me?
[01:06] <Sanne> deian: hda, hdb... are ide or pata devices, sd a sata devices
[01:06] <zerothis> sda is a serial ata hd i think. hda would be old ata
[01:06] <deian> i have sata
[01:06] <tux> found it, thank you jager
[01:06] <deian> so windows would be on sda3 (for instance?)
[01:06] <Daboone72> Well zip drives flash drives are sdb1 scsi don't know what sata is
[01:06] <tux> HwAddr from ifconfig
[01:06] <VSpike> deian is right I think.  In feisty, pata devices become sdx too
[01:07] <Sanne> deian: you can list your partitions with: sudo fdisk -l
[01:07] <deian> oh excellent
[01:07] <deian> ok
[01:07] <Sanne> deian: you can see what's mounted currently with: mount
[01:08] <zerothis> deian: use the command "winecfg" and look at the Drives tab. it will show where all the windows drives are mounted
[01:08] <deian> i don't have wine installe
[01:08] <zerothis> deian, oh
[01:08] <deian> fdisk -l shows windows is on /dev/sda1
[01:09] <zerothis> afk
[01:09] <deian> wine is something i will move onto real soon!!
[01:09] <Sanne> deian: and is /dev/sda1 mounted anywhere? Type: mount
[01:10] <deian> please
[01:10] <Daboone72> Yes all ata devices appear as SCSI because were using libata http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=541094
[01:11] <tux> how can i work with WPA keys
[01:11] <mrigns> !wpa
[01:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:12] <Sanne> deian: here's some instructions about mounting windows partitions: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[01:12] <mrigns> !ntfs-3g
[01:12] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:13] <deian> how do i mount /dev/sda1 then? i tried the command mount -t /dev/sda1 /media/windows
[01:14] <deian> but it says /media/windows does not exist
[01:14] <mrigns> deian: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[01:14] <DaSkreech> is there a way to get my hardware info/
[01:14] <DaSkreech> ?
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Guified?
[01:14] <mrigns> the repeat the mounting
[01:15] <mrigns> yes
[01:15] <DaSkreech> Outside of lshw -html :-P
[01:15] <mrigns> try kicker --> system
[01:15] <mrigns> DaSkreech: kinfocenter -caption "%c" %i %m
[01:16] <mrigns> should work without the parameter though
[01:16] <eilker>  is there a pencil tool for drawing in krita ?
[01:16] <eilker> i cant find it
[01:16] <Sanne> DaSkreech: menu/system/kinfocenter
[01:17] <mrigns> eilker: isnt it the one on the upper left?
[01:17] <deian> ok now i don't have permission to read the mounted windows paritiom
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Sanne: Thanks
[01:17] <deian> grrrrrr
[01:17] <eilker> mrigns: i think yes:) sorry
[01:17] <Sanne> DaSkreech: you're welcome
[01:18] <DaSkreech> It's not very pretty :)
[01:18] <DaSkreech> This would scare most people
[01:18] <mrigns> but it shows all needed stuff
[01:18] <deian> anyone?
[01:19] <DaSkreech> true. but honestly lshw is prettier
[01:19] <DaSkreech> deian: is it NTFS?
[01:19] <deian> yea
[01:19] <deian> is this where the problem is?
[01:19] <Sanne> deian: you might want to read the link I gave you, might get some basics explained ;)
[01:19] <mrigns> !ntfs-3g | deian
[01:19] <ubotu> deian: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:19] <deian> ok thanks
[01:19] <mrigns> deian: now i posted it twice
[01:19] <mrigns> just read it
[01:20] <Sanne> deian: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[01:20] <deian> sorry, don't know how i missed that first time round
[01:20] <VSpike> deian are you using ntfs-3g or the standard ntfs driver?
[01:21] <deian> no idea
[01:21] <deian> which one is the standard one?
[01:21] <adam__> I'm trying to log into my bank (http://www.capitalone.co.uk/) with konqueror but everytime it loads the page meta-refreshs to http://www.capitalone.co.uk/web/MenuUrl?pageId=1 and then opens this page in kate which isn't helpfull and prevents me actually accessing the site. Is their someway of telling konqueror to open it?
[01:22] <deian> how do i unmount?
[01:22] <HaSH> adam__, try firefox?.
[01:22] <k0> i just installed kubuntu but my sound is really low
[01:23] <k0> deian: umount <device>
[01:23] <adam__> I shouldn't have too, and i hate firefox anyway
[01:23] <k0> any had this problem?
[01:23] <HaSH> adam__, eh konqueror isnt a good browser for th inet. but w/e flaos your boat :-)
[01:23] <k0> my master volume isnt there jus pcm
[01:23] <HaSH> *floats
[01:23] <junocdx> adam__: www.opera.com
[01:24] <adam__> Rubbish KHTML is the best html render, its the only one that passes the acid2 test
[01:25] <orestes> Excuse me: Is this the correct place to ask about KDE translations in Rosetta?
[01:25] <HaSH> orestes, maby try #kde
[01:25] <orestes> ok, thanks
[01:25] <HaSH> np
[01:25] <calamari> Sanne: thanks for your desktop icon help earlier, that's where it is in Edgy too! :)
[01:26] <Sanne> calamari: ah, good to know, glad it helped, thanks for the followup :)
[01:26] <deian> nice one guys i successfully mounted windows
[01:27] <Newbie-None> Hi all
[01:27] <k0> anyone else had problem with low sound with intel sound card
[01:27] <Newbie-None> I have a problem....I cant edir grub/menu.lst
[01:27] <Newbie-None> *edit
[01:28] <calamari> Newbie-None: why not?
[01:28] <Newbie-None> I dont know. I havnt rights probably.
[01:28] <verzonnen> gues because it needs to be done as root?
[01:29] <Sanne> Newbie-None: try: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:30] <Newbie-None> In terminal I connect as root and I wrote > kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst but....
[01:31] <Newbie-None> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:31] <Newbie-None> Xlib: No protocol specified
[01:31] <Newbie-None> kate: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[01:31] <Sanne> Newbie-None: no, don't login as root. Type this as a normal user in a konsole window.
[01:31] <mzanfardino>  I'm running Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 on Ubuntu Edgy and can not seem to get a link in email to spawn Firefox: it always opens the link in Konquer.  Now, I've already gone to the system configuration and set Firefox as my default browser and it seems to work with other apps.  Am I missing something in Thunderbird? (if this is not the correct channel, please direct me to the correct one)
[01:31] <k0> Newbie-None: use 'nano -w /boot/grub'
[01:33] <Newbie-None> ko > thx Im in....meybe i save it in a few seconds
[01:35] <Newbie-None> yes. Thats right. Thx to all and especially to k0 for "nano" edit
[01:36] <Photon> does anyone kno about allegro lib?
[01:36] <Photon> i want to know how to setup allegro on kdevelop
[01:48] <dwidmann> boo!
[01:49] <Newbie-None> How can I import Icq list in Kopete?
[01:55] <mrigns> icq saves its list on its server
[01:55] <mrigns> not locally
[01:56] <dwidmann> mrigns: I think newbie-none left already
[01:56] <mrigns> oh
[01:56] <jason_> oh
[01:56] <mrigns> turne the leaves/joins out :d
[01:56] <jason_> whi us this
[01:56] <Daisuke_Ido> jason_: could you repeat that?  in english, perhaps?
[01:57] <jason_> who is this
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[01:57] <jason_> yea
[01:57] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not sure
[01:57] <jason_> what do u mean
[01:57] <jason_> what is ur name
[01:57] <jason_> so how r u
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> my name is a series of pictographs that is entirely unpronouncable in your language
[01:58] <jason_> do you know anything bout computers
[01:58] <verzonnen> jason he is here is he not
[01:58] <Daisuke_Ido> but you can call me "squiggly line, squiggly line, eye, urinating dog"
[01:59] <jason_> do u know anything bout computers
[01:59] <Daisuke_Ido> !ask | jason_
[01:59] <ubotu> jason_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:59] <Rip> what do you need?
[02:00] <sayers> Where is the location of the install folder for java so I can locate the JRE and add it to Eclipse?
[02:01] <verzonnen> sayers "type java" on the command line
[02:01] <jason_> okay i cant play dvds on my computers when i have everything but it doesnnt do anything
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> is there an error message jason_?
[02:02] <jason_> so do u know how to fix it
[02:02] <jason_> i dont know it doesnt do anything
[02:02] <freexqf> how good is ntfs write support on kubuntu 7.04 beta?
[02:02] <freexqf> can i write to the ntfs without worrying?
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> have you tried
[02:02] <chemicalvamp> !dvd
[02:02] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:02] <jason_> okay thank you
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> np ,am
[02:03] <jason_> yea i have
[02:03] <chemicalvamp> !codec
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about codec - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <jason_> what do u have linux or kubuntu
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu *is* linux.
[02:04] <sayers> Kubuntu is a distro of linux, few people really make their own distros and use just linux's kernel.
[02:04] <chemicalvamp> i was just gonna say that hehe
[02:04] <dwidmann> or more correctly, kubuntu has linux :)
[02:04] <freexqf> kubuntu use linux
[02:04] <zerothis> is it possible to run OSX (darwin) apps in Ubuntu?
[02:04] <sayers> dwidmann: I was correcter faster :P
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> kubuntu contains that which is linux, surrounded by that which is not
[02:04] <dwidmann> sayers: bah humbug
[02:04] <freexqf> well, does anybody know how good is ntfs write support in kubuntu? should i use it without worryng?
[02:05] <sayers> verzonnen: that didnt work
[02:05] <jason_> i still dont know how ti fix it
[02:06] <zerothis> you should worry about everything, it helps. i worry about all sorts of things and then they never happen
[02:06] <verzonnen> sayers: what did not work?
[02:06] <jason_> i try to use it under kaffeine is there a better dvd player prgram
[02:06] <dwidmann> freexqf: ntfs write is always going to be a bit risky, if you need 100% reliability and would cry for weeks on end if you lost your data, ntfs write is not for you
[02:06] <sayers> verzonnen: the location of the jre
[02:06] <freexqf> ok.. not using, too much valuable data...
[02:06] <sayers> Here is an idea. Dont double boot.
[02:06] <verzonnen> sayers what was the output?
[02:06] <freexqf> thxks
[02:06] <dwidmann> jason_: kaffeine works well, vlc is good also, as is okle (though it is uses oss audio which is IMO a pain in the butt)
[02:07] <sayers> verzonnen: /usr/bin/java which isnt really a jre of what I want ?
[02:07] <jason_> how do i work it
[02:07] <jason_> though
[02:07] <chemicalvamp> do you think i could use vmware to run feisty?
[02:07] <verzonnen> sayers: I have no idea what you want
[02:07] <jason_> i just got linux
[02:08] <dwidmann> /usr/lib/jvm/[insert your jvm here] /bin <-- add me to your $PATH
[02:08] <jason_> i dont understand
[02:08] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: you can
[02:09] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: I think I still have herd2 installed in a vm laying around somewhere ...
[02:09] <jason_> so does any1 know what to do i u and just loaded up kubunt and i dont know what to do for the dvd player
[02:09] <dwidmann> !DVD | jason
[02:09] <ubotu> jason: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:10] <N6REJ> anyone know of a GOOD ftp program that handles chmod commands without so much mouse clicking?  Especially recursive and grouped folders
[02:10] <dwidmann> It's lying about k9copy, it's in multiverse o.O
[02:10] <chemicalvamp> !ftp
[02:10] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[02:11] <jason_> so ubotu how do i load the stuff up
[02:11] <N6REJ> kftpgrabber is terrible!
[02:11] <dwidmann> kftpgrabber is un-fun
[02:11] <N6REJ> thats the truth!
[02:11] <dwidmann> Konqueror works well, I also use wput and ftp ... they serve their purpose too
[02:11] <jason_> nevermind u guys r useless
[02:12] <dwidmann> jason_: ubotu is a bot ...
[02:12] <N6REJ> !kasablanca
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kasablanca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <jason_> oo icic i dint now i dont use this ever
[02:13] <Powerking89670> is it possible to send a ping with the Konsole?
[02:13] <Powerking89670> I know Windows has a Ping command
[02:13] <N6REJ> jason, there's a whole section for learning about linux and ubuntu.
[02:13] <dwidmann> basically, you'll need to click this link: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages, and follow the instructions there to add the "Seveas" repository. Afterwards, you'll need to install the package "libdvdcss2", "libdvdread3", "libdvdnav4", and "libdvdplay0" in adept
[02:13] <N6REJ> Powerking89670: yep, "PING" in lowercase
[02:13] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, ping <destination>
[02:13] <Powerking89670> kk thank you :D
[02:14] <Powerking89670> How do I stop the pinging
[02:15] <dwidmann> ctrl +c
[02:15] <chemicalvamp> ctrl c
[02:15] <Powerking89670> thank you
[02:15] <Powerking89670> thought I was DDOSing someone there for a second.....
[02:15] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, that would be ping -f
[02:15] <N6REJ> lol
[02:15] <Powerking89670> lol
[02:18] <chemicalvamp> using vmware, can i also duel boot?
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> huh?
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> i mean like have 1/2 hdd for linux, and 1/2 for windows.. an run windows with vmware
[02:19] <dwidmann> chemicalvamp: do you mean, using an os both within a vmware and as another boot option? Maybe...
[02:19] <chemicalvamp> yes
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i think may be possible
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> but i wouldn't know how to go about it
[02:20] <chemicalvamp> how is vmware normaly used? (dont give me the !vmware lol) i just want the jist of it
[02:23] <dwidmann> vmware is usually used so you can run multiple operating systems without running multiple computers (or going through the hassle of dual booting)
[02:24] <twiztr> But for vmware, you need a good amount of ram, usually.
[02:24] <flaccid> um !flash and !backports doesn't really tell you the package name for flash9 or how to install?
[02:25] <dwidmann> twiztr: a gig is pretty good for two, might be able to skate by with less, especially if the Os's are 32-bit
[02:25] <twiztr> dwidmann: Yea, I have to up my ram, soon.
[02:26] <chemicalvamp> twiztr, 1 gig good enough?
[02:26] <chemicalvamp> nevermind, didnt see that other message
[02:26] <dwidmann> I think I successfully got Ubuntu running with 128mb ram, it used more like 32mb when running, which was nice, but the installer requires >128mb, you'll run out of memory during the installer and it will take forever with no updates on the screen, heck, I thought it had froze, so I walked away, came back a while later and it was done, surprised me.
[02:27] <twiztr> chemicalvamp: Yea, I would be able to run two with one gig. But my box only have 512.
[02:28] <t3hwiz0rd> can anyone help me get wireless working on kubuntu? i just got my laptop. the device is seen and recognized, and wireless assistant picks up my network but won't connect.
[02:28] <twiztr> t3hwiz0rd: You shouldn't irc as root...
[02:28] <t3hwiz0rd> twiztr: it shouldn't be logged in as root 0.o
[02:28] <twiztr>  (n=root@ip72-200-103-253.tc.ph.cox.net).
[02:28] <dwidmann> Funny thing, before I took my computer down for a little bit earlier today, I think I was running at about 700+mb ram, with only one os ...
[02:28] <wizard_> ookay...
[02:28] <zerothis> vmware. need enough memory to run your host operating system, and the guest operating system, AND the programs your running in the guest OS, *AND* still have memory left for VMWare itself, _AND_ any other apps you want to run on the host OS at the same time.
[02:28] <dwidmann> back down to using 420mb now
[02:28] <twiztr> there
[02:28] <t3hwiz0rd> now
[02:28] <twiztr> lol
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> any idea why wireless assistant can pick up the network but when i enter in my wpa key it wont connect?
[02:29] <twiztr> Umm, what kind of lappy?
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> asus a8jm
[02:29] <t3hwiz0rd> the card seems to be supported by default from what i've heard, its intel
[02:29] <twiztr> Damn. It it was a Toshiba, I could of helped.
[02:29] <Powerking89670> is there a linux equivilent to cls? a command that clears the console window?
[02:30] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, clear
[02:30] <dwidmann> Powerking89670: clear
[02:30] <Powerking89670> doh, that was obvious
[02:30] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, or Ctrl-l
[02:30] <Powerking89670> thank you :D the hot chick backround was coverd with text...
[02:30] <Powerking89670> (I have it set to transparent)
[02:30] <dwidmann> Powerking89670: all of them are obvious, but when there are hundreds to dig through it makes things hard to find obvious or not
[02:30] <Arwen> Powerking89670, clear or clear_console
[02:30] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd, the easy way is to get knetworkmanager
[02:31] <dwidmann> Arwen:
[02:31] <dwidmann> dustin@terra:~$ clear_console
[02:31] <dwidmann> clear_console: terminal is not a console
[02:31] <Powerking89670> thats true dwidmann
[02:31] <dwidmann> most of the time that one won't help ...
[02:31] <Arwen> dwidmann, yes
[02:31] <Arwen> dwidmann, well, he said to clear the console...
[02:31] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: is it true that laptops that use the ipw3945 driver have support out-of-box?
[02:32] <chemicalvamp> what linux distro?
[02:32] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: kubuntu edgy 6.10
[02:33] <dwidmann> arwen:point goes to you
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> does it say "no usable wireless device" and exit right away?
[02:33] <Arwen> dwidmann, hehe
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: nope, it can even see it
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: as i said wireless assistant even picks up my network
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> just wont let me connect
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> ahh  get the same problem
[02:33] <t3hwiz0rd> and also where are the power management tools that used to be in kcontrol? its got my processors throttled down
[02:34] <dwidmann> t3hwiz0rd: if you have a godly internet connection and dont' mind downloading another cd, you could always try the feisty fawn beta and see if it works in it.
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> dwidmann: i don't want to update when the device clearly works.
[02:34] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd, clearly, it isn't though ...
[02:34] <t3hwiz0rd> dwidmann: i just want some assistance on getting it to connect.
[02:34] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd, if you want a conection manager that will automaticly aquire an IP, AND connect it for you on startup.. get Knetwork config
[02:35] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: working on that, apt is in the middle of dist-upgrade lol
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> mine only works if i do a manual set-up
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> yeah that will solve your problem
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> your running a laptop im guessing?
[02:35] <dwidmann> Ouch, I've got a 300+mb upgrade sitting in front of me :(
[02:35] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: yes
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd what is it?
[02:36] <jhutchins> Anybody running a netgear wg111t?
[02:36] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: asus a8jm, it has good reports of "just working" on linux fro mwhat i read
[02:36] <zerothis> i had to compile a lot of packages from source to get my wireless working. then I used wlassistant to connect
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> pentium or amd?
[02:36] <chemicalvamp> 64bit?
[02:37] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: core duo t2400 32 bit
[02:37] <jhutchins> zerothis: Yeah, that's what I'm reading.
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> whats the comand to info on cpu? anybody?
[02:38] <solomon_> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:38] <Yorokobi> chemicalvamp, edgy or feisty?
[02:38] <jhutchins> Mandriva it was urpmi ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper -i .inf1, ndiswrapper -i .inf2, mdiswrapper -m and it was up and running.
[02:38] <chemicalvamp> edgy
[02:39] <chemicalvamp> i got a few words about feisty's wireless.. and none of them are very nice :)
[02:39] <johny454> Does anytone know a good ID3 tagger for Linux_
[02:39] <chijin> johny454: easytag
[02:39] <jhutchins> Edgy if I unplug the dongle, the system locks up, which I think may be because of the ancient USB chipset.
[02:39] <johny454> Does anyone know a good ID3 tagger for Linux?
[02:39] <johny454> chijin: thanks
[02:40] <jhutchins> Amarok's a pretty good general collection manager.
[02:40] <verzonnen> my wireless worked out of the box on my laptop and PC, absolutely perfect
[02:41] <chemicalvamp> verzonnen, i upgraded my feisty thru chroot while running a edgy desktop cd, and still never got it to detect my wireless card
[02:42] <verzonnen> chemicalvamp: I know it can be a pain, I did pick the card for the PC to make sure it worked under linux
[02:42] <t3hwiz0rd> does anone know what hte package is for ipw3945 driver in ubuntu repos?
[02:43] <eeanm> t3hwiz0rd:  well its in the kernel ain't it
[02:43] <eeanm> now as to what happened to the ipw3945 daemon
[02:43] <eeanm> who knows
[02:43] <eeanm> (it disappeared in Feisty)
[02:44] <chemicalvamp> verzonnen i thought about buying a new wireless card for this laptop, but then i decided hey, if it works on edgy perfectly fine.. whats the point
[02:45] <t3hwiz0rd> eeanm if it works then why can't i connect to it at all?
[02:45] <twiztr> StaticX, Otep, and NighWish tickets!!!
[02:45] <twiztr> YAY!
[02:45] <dwidmann> twiztr: where?
[02:45] <verzonnen> chemicalvamp: sounds reasonable to me
[02:45] <twiztr> Seattle
[02:45] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[02:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <chemicalvamp> kinda funnt though.. when i did lspci in fiesty knew what it was, but it didnt work
[02:45] <dwidmann> crud
[02:46] <chemicalvamp> BUT when i do lspci here in edgy, it says its an unknown device.. and yet it works
[02:46] <dwidmann> Seattle is much far too long a drive from Virginia :P ... Probably 3 days or so ... too long indeed
[02:46] <zerothis> when will fiesty be ready instead of 'development'
[02:46] <Yorokobi> zerothis: sometime this month
[02:46] <verzonnen> never ;)
[02:47] <chemicalvamp> well fixing the network bugs is just one step closer to a release
[02:47] <Skrot-> zerothis: 19. april
[02:47] <dwidmann> verzonnen: well, have to do releases from time to time, otherwise you end up like, umm, gentoo or something
[02:47] <twiztr> I haven't seen a good show in way to long, because MSI and a few otherscanceled.
[02:47] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi: my Feisty install broke the kernel , couldn't get back to a prompt ...reinstalled edgy
[02:48] <verzonnen> releasing it and being out of development are two different things
[02:48] <dwidmann> twiztr: I haven't seen a good show ever really, but I'd take that one if it were closer :(
[02:49] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj: I hope you didn't lose anything that you needed in the process.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi: not really i still ahve all the real important stuff on the windows partition
[02:50] <zerothis> ahha! i just found "pearpc" in adept. is that Darwin/OSX also or OX 9 only?7
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> for vmware what would wndows media center edition be considered?
[02:51] <chemicalvamp> its not on the list
[02:51] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, xp
[02:51] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj: I can't afford to lose anything on my desktop box. It'd take me two weeks to get everything set up again
[02:52] <zerothis> windows edition N would probably be better
[02:52] <Arwen> zerothis, HUH?
[02:52] <Arwen> Edition N is broken :-\
[02:52] <t3hwiz0rd> what does kubuntu use for power management?>
[02:52] <chemicalvamp> do i need to have a seperate partition for the guest OS?
[02:53] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: i got it conncted btw ;-)
[02:53] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, no, stores it as a file on the HDD
[02:53] <chemicalvamp> cool, was it with knetworkmanager?
[02:53] <flaccid> how to install flash 9 on dapper?
[02:53] <t3hwiz0rd> nope
[02:53] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: it didn't like my key lol
[02:54] <zerothis> Edition N, yep, all those security flaws, broken.
[02:54] <chemicalvamp> manualy input your ip and such>?
[02:54] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: what would i do to change my power settings now?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi:  I haven't had the guts to totally migrate to kubuntu cuz i know my curiosity gets me in deep trouble sometimes so I know I need a backup
[02:54] <BluesKaj> :)
[02:55] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd what do you mean
[02:55] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: the options in kcontrol to manage power are gone
[02:55] <Powerking89670> so who likes proxys? I hate them....im making a nice long list of them to blacklist on my friends IRC server...
[02:56] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd by the way when you get tired of having to open wlassistant to cennect your wireless after every reboot, sudo apt-get knetworkmanager
[02:56] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: knetworkmanager is installed
[02:56] <Arwen> zerothis, um, yes, WMP exploits no longer exist, but also, everything that depends on WMP and it's libraries also fail
[02:56] <t3hwiz0rd> it doesn't see my wifi tho
[02:56] <chemicalvamp> oh hehe
[02:56] <chemicalvamp> hmm
[02:56] <Arwen> flaccid, a) with a nick change and b) in multiverse backports I think
[02:57] <flaccid> a) negative
[02:57] <flaccid> b) package name?
[02:57] <t3hwiz0rd> no one will answer my question... what does kubuntu use to manage power options on laptops? it seems to be gone from kcontrol
[02:57] <Arwen> flashplugin-nonfree - I think v9 is in backports
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> why would i be getting no sound in zsnes now :\
[02:58] <Arwen> if you don't enable backports, you'll probably get v7
[02:58] <flaccid> t3hwiz0rd: acpi
[02:58] <t3hwiz0rd> flaccid: and its gui frontend?
[02:59] <flaccid> system settings -> laptops and power
[02:59] <t3hwiz0rd> under kcontrol?
[02:59] <flaccid> kontrol -> Laptop Battery
[02:59] <flaccid> thanks Arwen
[02:59] <t3hwiz0rd> i don't see either
[03:00] <flaccid> i'm on dapper and they are there
[03:00] <flaccid> maybe i installed them can't remember
[03:00] <verzonnen> flaccid: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Unofficial_Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.29_Starter_Guide
[03:00] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd double click your batery icon in the sys tray
[03:00] <Arwen> as a side note, if you can't get a working one, you can just download them from adobe.com and put em in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins
[03:00] <billytwowilly> hey, anyone know of a linux interface to facebook? Like something to deal with messages?
[03:01] <billytwowilly> besides firefox/konqueror of course;)
[03:01] <chemicalvamp> err single click actually lol
[03:01] <Arwen> billytwowilly, ....facebook... *grumble*
[03:01] <Arwen> at least it's better than myspace.... *grumble*
[03:01] <billytwowilly> lol. It's a nice system. My friends converted me today.
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> chemicalvamp: knetworkmanager fails to load my wireless networks
[03:01] <t3hwiz0rd> in trusted and untrusted... its blank
[03:01] <Apollo^101> i just installed ntfs-3g but i am unable to write nfts partitions. what can be the reason?
[03:01] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: it won't list them until you've successfully connected via knetworkmanager
[03:02] <Arwen> Apollo^101, do you mount them as ntfs-3g? and did you mount with gid=<fusegid>?
[03:02] <chemicalvamp> t3hwiz0rd huh, i bet you have the same one as whats on feisty
[03:02] <zerothis> apollo, you need to turn ntfs writing on
[03:02] <zerothis> there is a gui tool for that
[03:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: how can i connect to it?
[03:02] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: it doesn't give me the option to find it or even connect
[03:03] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: what happens when you right-click the systray icon for it?
[03:03] <flaccid> verzonnen: i'm not on edgy
[03:03] <t3hwiz0rd> it has just some bland options
[03:03] <t3hwiz0rd> wired network, options, help, quit
[03:03] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: it should give you a list of wireless connection options
[03:03] <zerothis> appollo:the ntfs-config package provides it
[03:03] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: under Wireless Devices
[03:04] <t3hwiz0rd> don't see anything that says wireless devices, Yorokobi
[03:04] <haffi> I have some trouble with screen resolution in KDE
[03:05] <haffi> it only gives me two choices, 800x600 and 640x480
[03:05] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: it sounds like it doesn't know you have a wireless NIC
[03:05] <haffi> but I want 1024x768
[03:05] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: well i am connected on it riught now lol
[03:05] <Apollo^101> arvid, i never mounted any thing. i have no problem with fat32
[03:05] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: any way to specify to it?
[03:05] <Apollo^101> arvid, how can i moount?
[03:05] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: oh sure, make me pull out my laptop now :)
[03:06] <Arwen> haffi, is your video card working?
[03:06] <jaevel> what is better with networking, Ubuntu or Kubuntu? or are they the same?
[03:06] <haffi> yeah, everything was working
[03:06] <Arwen> haffi, if so, go specify 1024x768 in your xorg.conf (backup first, also, 1024x768????????)
[03:06] <haffi> I have an xorg.conf which I copied from my gentoo installation
[03:07] <Arwen> haffi, oh, if you have an Intel card, you might need 915resolution, dunno
[03:07] <haffi> and I was only setting a power saving feature when everything went haywire
[03:07] <Arwen> hmm, dunno then
[03:08] <flaccid> Arwen: flash is installed, however it does not work in firefox
[03:08] <sayers> Where does ubuntu automagicly install Java 1.6's JRE?
[03:08] <Arwen> flaccid, no? what happen?
[03:08] <Arwen> sayers, nowhere
[03:08] <flaccid> nothing happen thats what
[03:08] <flaccid> how to diagnose. this is with firefox 2 on dapper
[03:08] <Arwen> flaccid, enter "about:plugins" in firefox, see if it's recognized
[03:08] <Yorokobi> sayers: the binaries for java go in /usr/bin
[03:08] <waxyfresh> can i get some help with this?:root@sleepless:~# kdesu adapt
[03:08] <waxyfresh> kdesu: cannot connect to X server
[03:09] <flaccid> i only have libnull plugin
[03:09] <Apollo^101> Arwen, i never mounted any thing
[03:10] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: any answers?
[03:11] <Yorokobi> t3hwiz0rd: sorry, I had to get my laptop, set it up, then go help my wife with a couple of things.
[03:11] <Arwen> Apollo^101, well then... I wonder why you can't access your ntfs partitions? lol
[03:11] <Apollo^101> Arwen, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13960/
[03:11] <Apollo^101> Arwen, i never had problem with fat32
[03:12] <sayers> How do I remove somthing and save more space then using aptitude remove Name?
[03:12] <Arwen> sayers, you can do "apt-get clean" to clean out the downloaded apps cache
[03:12] <chijin> fat32 is a pain
[03:12] <Arwen> also, you can do --purge, but that has a minimal effect (removes some stuff from /etc)
[03:12] <flaccid> i see my problem
[03:12] <chemicalvamp> whats the copy command for copyin a folder, to another folder? (i gotta do it in sudo cuz im copying to a folder i dont have permission to
[03:12] <flaccid> damn ubuntu!
[03:13] <Arwen> Apollo^101, where it says "ntfs", replace it with "ntfs-3g"
[03:13] <verzonnen> chemicalvamp: to copy the whole folder use "cp -r"
[03:13] <Ferojasrom> Hey, What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> sudo: cp-r: command not found
[03:14] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: if you could please /msg me your results
[03:14] <Apollo^101> ok
[03:14] <Arwen> chemicalvamp, cp -r
[03:14] <Arwen> :-)
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> ohh
[03:14] <t3hwiz0rd> Yorokobi: i need to go for a run to make sure i don't get fat
[03:14] <Ferojasrom> Hey, What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu
[03:14] <zerothis> off to configure pearpc
[03:15] <Ferojasrom> What is the password or root or sudo of kubuntu??
[03:15] <Yorokobi> Ferojasrom: there is no root password. The sudo password is your password
[03:16] <verzonnen> Ferojasrom: no password for root
[03:16] <verzonnen> Ferojasrom: sudo su -
[03:16] <haffi_> sudo su - ?
[03:16] <verzonnen> Ferojasrom: "then passwd root"
[03:16] <Arwen> haffi, that uses sudo to run su, which more or less creates a root shell
[03:17] <grego_> Hi all, is it possible to strip all binaries at once after compilation?
[03:17] <Yorokobi> Ferojasrom: or sudo -s (same as sudo su -)
[03:17] <Arwen> Yorokobi, it's not
[03:17] <Arwen> sudo -s = sudo bash, it doesn't create a login shell
[03:17] <Arwen> sudo -i is a closer interpretation
[03:17] <Yorokobi> Arwen: a bit nit picky today, yeah? :)
[03:18] <Arwen> Yorokobi, that's actually an important difference
[03:18] <Arwen> Ferojasrom, if you have a good reason to make a rootpw, "sudo passwd root" is the right way to do it
[03:18] <Yorokobi> Arwen: you're right, of course, but the effect of the two commands is the same--superficially. You get to be root.
[03:18] <Arwen> Yorokobi, hmm, yes, but one creates a different environment which apparently some admins require
[03:19] <Yorokobi> Kubuntu doesn't
[03:19] <Arwen> Yorokobi, ?? I just said that certain system admins want their true root environment... nothing to do with *buntu
[03:19] <Yorokobi> or, vanilla Kubuntu at any rate
[03:19] <Yorokobi> lol, I'm done
[03:20] <sayers> Anyone have any direct recommendations for KDE looks ?
[03:20] <Arwen> I'm done spouting nonsense too :-)
[03:20] <Arwen> sayers, beryl!
[03:20] <Arwen> or, what do you mean by looks?
[03:20] <Yorokobi> kde-look.org ??
[03:21] <sayers> Arwen: Beryl is far from productive. it just looks cool
[03:21] <sayers> I mean like themes/colors
[03:21] <flaccid> rightio i hacked that
[03:22] <flaccid> now for shockwave ?
[03:22] <flaccid> !shockwave
[03:22] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[03:22] <flaccid> oh dang
[03:22] <flaccid> doesn't matter
[03:22] <Yorokobi> sayers: I'm more productive with beryl. I mean, how nice is it to move windows around with Super+1-9 ?? Very nice.
[03:23] <sayers> I am not productve with it, it runs fast and all but just not good for use in a programming environment or every day use... or atleast thats what I think
[03:23] <Arwen> flaccid, hehe, blame adobe
[03:23] <Arwen> that said, Shockwave is kinda useless
[03:23] <flaccid> yes and blame adobe for making flash9 with alsa for sound
[03:23] <Yorokobi> yeah, to borrow from perl culture, tmtowtdi
[03:23] <Arwen> flaccid, what's wrong with alsa? alsa rules
[03:24] <flaccid> i use freebsd for desktop
[03:24] <flaccid> it discriminates against non-linux users
[03:24] <flaccid> and i need shockwave coz i'm a web dev
[03:24] <jaevel> anyone have problems with browsing windows networks file shares?
[03:24] <Powerking89670> night everyone
[03:25] <Arwen> flaccid, wine it is then, lol
[03:25] <flaccid> yeah i guess so, i'll wait till i need
[03:25] <Arwen> jaevel, I can't find mine since samba doesn't do nbnr over bcast, buyt...
[03:25] <flaccid> jaevel: no
[03:25] <Arwen> but*
[03:25] <sayers> jaevel: no but windows has problems :P , seriously though I think its how you set up the options
[03:25] <Apollo^101> thanks all
[03:25] <jaevel> oh...
[03:25] <flaccid> nbnr over bcast?
[03:26] <sayers> jaevel: what are you trying to do?
[03:26] <jaevel> i cant seem to browse my network.. i see the workgroup but cannot see anything under that
[03:26] <jaevel> well, reinstalling kubuntu
[03:26] <Arwen> flaccid, netbios name resolution over bcast packets
[03:26] <jaevel> atm
[03:26] <flaccid> need to configure smb correctly and ensure its not being blocked by anything
[03:26] <Arwen> basically, if you don't have a local dns server, Windows resolves hostnames by bcast
[03:26] <flaccid> NetBT you mean
[03:26] <sayers> reinstalling the Distro doesnt fix much.
[03:27] <flaccid> samba3 can support that
[03:27] <Arwen> flaccid, oh?
[03:27] <flaccid> it needs to be configured however
[03:27] <sayers> In linux you will probably never have to reinstall the distro unless you dont know how to fix it at all
[03:27] <jaevel> i broke it pretty badly
[03:27] <Arwen> flaccid, elaborate
[03:27] <jaevel> thats my prob...
[03:27] <sayers> how did you break it?
[03:27] <jaevel> i broke the nic card
[03:27] <flaccid> read the docs @ samba.org
[03:27] <sayers> nic card?
[03:27] <jaevel> i remove net-tools
[03:28] <jaevel> that killed the network card
[03:28] <sayers> oh hm
[03:28] <jaevel> no more internet
[03:28] <jaevel> hm?
[03:28] <sayers> it would be fixable for someone with experience,
[03:28] <jaevel> im sure...
[03:28] <sayers> but yeah once you dont have internet
[03:28] <sayers> no google
[03:28] <sayers> no easy fixes
[03:28] <surgy> hi
[03:28] <jaevel> i see...
[03:28] <jaevel> learned that the hard way i guess....
[03:28] <sayers> google in the wiki has it all
[03:29] <jaevel> i guess im gonna need some help getting samba setup correctly....
[03:29] <sayers> if you want to do somthing spend 5 minutes searching for it rather than an hour trying to fix what you broke
[03:29] <waxyfresh> anyone have a link to a .deb for vidalia?
[03:29] <surgy> anyone know of any good windows managers for carputers?
[03:29] <sayers> jaevel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29
[03:30] <jaevel> sayers: thanks...
[03:30] <jaevel> i just installed ubuntu a week ago...
[03:30] <[BTF] Chm0d> how do i delete the panel in kubuntu
[03:30] <jaevel> learned alot so far....
[03:32] <flaccid> i dont get why the flashplugin-nonfree package stores files in /var/cache and symlinks: ./usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt -> /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt
[03:32] <waxyfresh> how do i install a .deb
[03:32] <flaccid> dpkg -i ./file.deb
[03:32] <halebopp> Hola
[03:32] <chemicalvamp> hola
[03:33] <chemicalvamp> que pasa
[03:33] <Arwen> flaccid, hmm, no idea
[03:33] <flaccid> is /var/cache/* static or does it get deleted
[03:33] <Arwen> doesn't for me, maybe yours was broken? that said, try edgy or feisty - it'll work wonders
[03:33] <Arwen> /var/cache is static until it's cleaned out
[03:34] <flaccid> hell no
[03:34] <[BTF] Chm0d> can you remove the bottom panel in kubuntu? I know in gnome you can but when I right click on the panel I dont have that option in kde
[03:34] <flaccid> why should i have to reinstall
[03:34] <flaccid> dapper is lts
[03:34] <Arwen> because newer == better, didn't you come from gentoo?
[03:34] <flaccid> when is /var/cache cleaned out
[03:34] <flaccid> newer does not equal better
[03:34] <flaccid> no
[03:34] <Arwen> when x program decides it feels like cleaning it out
[03:34] <flaccid> i'm a freebsd user
[03:35] <flaccid> x program?
[03:35] <Arwen> yes, any generic program
[03:35] <flaccid> so you are basically saying you don't know
[03:35] <chemicalvamp> [BTF] Chm0d well i guess if its buggin you.. you could maybe ctrl+alt+escape it ;)
[03:35] <Arwen> unlike /tmp, /var/cache doesn't have any special meaning - but lots of programs clean out sections at times
[03:35] <Arwen> flaccid, ^^
[03:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> :)
[03:35] <chemicalvamp> but dont ask me how to get it back lol
[03:35] <flaccid> that doesn't really inform anything
[03:35] <flaccid> you don't know what manages /var/cache
[03:35] <[BTF] Chm0d> not buggin me was just goin to have kiba-dock there dats all
[03:36] <Arwen> flaccid, /var/cache isn't managed, the individual sections are
[03:36] <halebopp> Tengo Amaro 1.4.3 pero no puede reproducir mp3 que estan en red, la otra computadora tiene windows xp. Qu puedo hacer?
[03:36] <[BTF] Chm0d> ill just move it :P
[03:36] <Arwen> /var/cache/apt is managed by apt, /var/cache/blah is managed by blah
[03:36] <flaccid> well thats what im talking about
[03:36] <Yorokobi> !es | halebopp
[03:36] <ubotu> halebopp: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:36] <Arwen> so, that brings us to the conclusion that /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree is managed by flashplugin-nonfree
[03:37] <flaccid> what manages /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree and why is it installed there. if you don't know just say so
[03:37] <Arwen> or, since flash can't do anything itself, that means apt is managing it
[03:37] <flaccid> flashplugin-nonfree is the package. how does a package maintain a directory?
[03:37] <Arwen> it's not supposed to be installed there, something probably broke
[03:37] <flaccid> it is installed there
[03:37] <flaccid> as per the package contents of the .deb..
[03:37] <flaccid> eg. dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb
[03:37] <halebopp> Gracias ubotu
[03:38] <Arwen> flaccid, mine's in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree so I think you have a problem...
[03:38] <chemicalvamp> halebopp, si #ubuntu-es es muy beuno
[03:38] <flaccid> Arwen: thats the symlink
[03:38] <Arwen> no, it's not a symlink on mine
[03:39] <flaccid> you are not on dapper
[03:39] <flaccid> its a dif package
[03:39] <flaccid> i assume
[03:39] <Arwen> I'll check
[03:39] <Yorokobi> this is why I use the installer from adobe.com ^^^
[03:39] <Arwen> flaccid, ^^
[03:39] <Arwen> it's really 2 files, no sense not doing a manual
[03:39] <flaccid> Yorokobi: shouldn't need to do that... *shouldn't*
[03:40] <Yorokobi> flaccid: I shouldn't need to use *BSD for good IPSec, but I do anyway.
[03:40] <flaccid> defeats the whole purpose of the packaging system...
[03:40] <Arwen> flaccid, the package is just a wrapper around a script to fetch and run adobe's installer
[03:40] <Yorokobi> its flash ...
[03:40] <flaccid> no it snot
[03:41] <flaccid> not flashplugin-nonfree_9.0.31.0.1ubuntu1~dapper1_i386.deb
[03:41] <Arwen> it is, the package consists of a script with "wget <> && tar xzf <> && cp <blah blah>
[03:41] <Yorokobi> but it works
[03:41] <Yorokobi> so, who cares?
[03:41] <Yorokobi> Half of what I have installed I didn't use the debs for.
[03:42] <flaccid> Arwen: http://pastebin.ca/424862
[03:42] <flaccid> Yorokobi: it will work until the /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree is removed
[03:42] <flaccid> Arwen: which package is this
[03:42] <flaccid> and what is the name of the script filename in the .deb
[03:43] <Yorokobi> lo que sea
[03:43] <flaccid> actually i see that in /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree-unpackdir/
[03:43] <Arwen> flashplugin-nonfree (repository version at least, not seveas) - the script is the standard install script in all debs
[03:44] <lauchazombie> hello
[03:44] <nam_> bonjour
[03:44] <lauchazombie> if i share some folder whit kpf
[03:44] <lauchazombie> what would be the rout to it?
[03:44] <lauchazombie> like , what should someone write in the web browser
[03:44] <lauchazombie> to download the files?
[03:44] <flaccid> and you are referring to install_flash_player_9_linux/flashplayer-installer
[03:45] <Arwen> flaccid, actually, I take that back, I'm sorry - my system has install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz in /var/cache and the actual libraries in /usr/lib
[03:45] <nam_> quelqu'un parle francais???
[03:45] <Yorokobi> Who was having the CPU scaling problem with edgy? jaevel? jager? someone else?
[03:45] <lauchazombie> just spanish and some english
[03:45] <Yorokobi> !fr | nam_
[03:45] <ubotu> nam_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:46] <flaccid> Arwen: what does file /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplayer.xpt return?
[03:46] <nam_> thank you obotu
[03:47] <jager> wasn't i Yorokobi
[03:47] <junocdx> can anyone help me with aticonfig?
[03:48] <twiztr> I just got followed home by a police cruser...
[03:48] <twiztr> >.<
[03:48] <Arwen> flaccid, flashplayer.xpt: symbolic link to `../../flashplugin-nonfree/flashplayer.xpt'
[03:48] <Arwen> but then again, /usr/lib/mozilla is a symlink to /usr/lib/firefox
[03:48] <twiztr> Me = No license.
[03:48] <twiztr> Woud have sucked.
[03:49] <flaccid> and probably symlinks back to /var/cache/..
[03:49] <flaccid> this is ridiculous system
[03:49] <flaccid> looks like the package script calls the flash installer to install into /var/cache/....
[03:49] <drew> i cant put anything in the source folder!
[03:49] <flaccid> i mean /var is for spooling, i don't know why ubuntu uses it for things like apache and libs..
[03:49] <drew> help!
[03:50] <flaccid> but then again there are lot of things like this in ubuntu that don't make sense
[03:50] <flaccid> some people will see /var/cache and think they can remove stuff in it to free space
[03:50] <Arwen> flaccid, not here... mine is physically in /usr/lib - I think the stuff in /var you're seeing is temporary junk, but maybe not - you have dapper after all
[03:50] <Yorokobi> flaccid: you'll find pretty much the same file structure in other Linux distros (RHEL, FC6, CentOS, Debian, etc)
[03:51] <drew> hey any one know why my roots are lokced out?
[03:51] <Yorokobi> Can you be a bit more precise, drew?
[03:52] <drew> i cant put tarballs into the root folder etc/apt/sources.list.
[03:52] <Yorokobi> drew: why would you want to do that?
[03:52] <drew> to install beryl
[03:52] <flaccid> Yorokobi: yeah i know. still doesn't make sense.
[03:52] <Yorokobi> That's not how its done
[03:52] <drew> yorokobi: how do i unlock it
[03:53] <flaccid> Yorokobi: it even contradicts man hier
[03:53] <Ace2016> maybe because /etc/apt/sources.list sin't a folder?
[03:53] <flaccid> Arwen: um its not temporary as per my pastebin...
[03:53] <twiztr> drew: change the root passwd to something you know, and then log in as root and do it, though I don't recommend i.
[03:53] <Yorokobi> drew: why are you using .tar.gz's Are you planning on compiling from source?
[03:54] <Ace2016> just use 3v1n0's repo he the latest beryl from svn is there
[03:54] <flaccid> Arwen: and you keep dissing dapper. i know its shit, but its LTS
[03:54] <drew> yorokobi: yes
[03:54] <Yorokobi> drew: keep the .tar.gz's in your home dir
[03:54] <drew> okay how do i change thr root pass
[03:54] <Arwen> flaccid, well, it's what it is
[03:54] <flaccid> all this stuff pretty much demonstrate the unstable nature of ubuntu
[03:54] <twiztr> drew: one sec
[03:54] <Arwen> drew, you can use sudo -i/sudo -s
[03:55] <flaccid> i prefer a stable operating system, not a 'cutting edge' broken one
[03:55] <cpk1> wait, the way ubuntu uses /var displays its unstable nature?
[03:55] <twiztr> goto K>systemsettings>usermanagement>
[03:55] <Arwen> dapper is far from cutting edge.....
[03:55] <twiztr> clickt eh show system accounts checkbox
[03:55] <cpk1> edgy is far from cutting edge =\
[03:55] <Arwen> feisty is far from cutting edge for that matter
[03:55] <twiztr> click on Administrator mode
[03:56] <Yorokobi> So, I have a question of my own. What happened to the screen capture applet for KDE (in feisty)?
[03:56] <twiztr> double click root
[03:56] <twiztr> set it to active(or enable), set a password
[03:57] <drew> umm its blank
[03:57] <twiztr> type somethign in
[03:58] <twiztr> any password you want
[03:58] <twiztr> then make sure to click ok
[03:58] <twiztr> then go back to system settings, clickt he advance tab
[03:58] <twiztr> click login manager
[03:59] <Yorokobi> And people say gui's are easier? ^^^
[03:59] <twiztr> Yorokobi: I know what you mean...
[04:00] <twiztr> gah, i dont remember how to enable local root login
[04:00] <Yorokobi> There's no need to set a password for root.
[04:00] <twiztr> hold down ctrl+alt+f2 and log in as root and startx
[04:00] <drew> that dint delp anyway
[04:00] <twiztr> Now log in as root, and you have access to the root folders
[04:01] <twiztr> That's just how to get around the K/Ubuntu no root think.
[04:01] <twiztr> thing*
[04:02] <twiztr> See you all in a few sec, I'm going back to my faithful command line, and irssi.
[04:07] <obat> hello, I have a friend who was just moving files in konqueror when he hit a disk full error. Most of the files are in one of the two locations, but some are gone
[04:07] <obat> does anyone know if these files will exist anywhere?
[04:10] <cyber-hazard> anyone tried the edgy -> feisty upgrade tool? I'm having a problem with it
[04:13] <deeo> obat: that's not exactly possible...
[04:13] <deeo> obat: the files aren't modified until the copy is complete
[04:13] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: yeah, I've used it twice now.
[04:13] <obat> deeo: you mean the files shouldn't have been deleted until they were copied?
[04:14] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: when I use it, I get all the way to the prompt that downloads the tool. Then it tells me to click finish to close Adept and start the tool. I click finish....nothing. close adept....nothing
[04:15] <Yorokobi> It should auto-start. I've had it hide behind adept before. I want to say that if you close adept it'll close as well (as it expects to be the one to close adept).
[04:16] <cyber-hazard> Hmmm, okay, let me try that real quick
[04:16] <obat> deeo: konqueror might act differently then direct command line, because I've looked for the files everywhere
[04:17] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: though the page says there's a bug in the tool and that you have to close adept
[04:17] <Yorokobi> I haven't run into that bug
[04:17] <cyber-hazard> negative, it's not hiding behind adept. not really sure what's going on =\
[04:18] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: the thing that got me both times I used it is I didn't follow the instructions precisely. I missed a step (read over it).
[04:19] <deeo> obat: i'm certain of it.  in fact, konqueror even compares the files after copy to ensure integrity.
[04:19] <Yorokobi> heh, I mean I read/skipped over a step
[04:19] <Yorokobi> gotta love English sometimes.
[04:19] <cyber-hazard> heheh, yeah. what step? cause the there didn't seem to be many steps involved
[04:20] <deeo> obat: the only scenario where files might be lost is if during copy they are deleted by an outside source
[04:20] <deeo> obat: in any case, you can use the find tool to search for the files on the command line: find / -iname "filename"
[04:21] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: I think it was the Full Upgrade -> Apply, I didn't apply once and didn't full upgrade once.
[04:21] <cyber-hazard> ah
[04:21] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: do you get the installer or just Adept's warning about it starting?
[04:22] <obat> deeo: okay, I'll try searching the whole drive for the files
[04:22] <obat> deeo: thank you for the answer
[04:22] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: I just get the little dialog that opens a window on top of Adept, then I click through a couple dialogs where it downloads the tool (supposedly) to the tmp directory, then it says to click finish to close Adept and launch the tool
[04:22] <cyber-hazard> i never actually get to the tool itself
[04:23] <deeo> obat: to save yourself some time, you could always run updatedb first, then use the locate command
[04:23] <deeo> not sure if you knew that or not, so i thought i'd mention it
[04:23] <dotnick> does anyone know when the new-legacy drivers for the nvidia cards might be available?
[04:23] <cyber-hazard> hehehe, something about the term "new-legacy" just cracks me up
[04:23] <AxlRose> if you upgrade something how can u step back to the previous version
[04:23] <dotnick> :)
[04:23] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: the upgrade tool is a python script, if its still in /tmp you may be able to start in manually. Or you can upgrade the old-school way
[04:24] <cyber-hazard> Yorokobi: yeah, I looked in the temp, doesn't appear to be in there anywhere, at least not in a format i'd expect it to be in
[04:24] <Yorokobi> AxlRose: if you use Synaptic then you can search for the package, highlight it and then use Ctrl-E to pick from a list of previous versions of the package.
[04:25] <AxlRose> Yorokobi:  I use adept
[04:26] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: old school method: Change every instance of "edgy" in /etc/apt/sources.list to "feisty" then run 'sudo apt-get update' followed by 'sudo apt-get -y -f dist-upgrade' and go get a drink or sandwich (or both).
[04:26] <cyber-hazard> i was reading somewhere that dist-upgrade is pretty unreliable though
[04:26] <Yorokobi> AxlRose: heh, use adept to install synaptic then start using synaptic. There may be a way to do it in Adept but I'm not familiar with it.
[04:26] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: it can be
[04:27] <cyber-hazard> honestly, I'm getting to the point where I might upload my files to my fileserver, then just wipe it out with the new version :P
[04:27] <cyber-hazard> it's a work computer, so I don't keep much locally
[04:27] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: that works just as well and is probably just as fast (at least for the initial install, not counting the upgrades)
[04:29] <cyber-hazard> yeah, i'll probably just download the beta
[04:29] <cyber-hazard> i wasn't running the 64bit version of kubuntu anyways, so it seems like a decent time to upgrade
[04:29] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: did you use the 64bit repo to run the upgrader?
[04:29] <cyber-hazard> nope
[04:30] <cyber-hazard> running fulll 32 bit here
[04:30] <Yorokobi> okay, just making sure
[04:30] <cyber-hazard> company told me to so I could run their software, but.....yeah, I don't actually use their software much
[04:30] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: XO?
[04:31] <cyber-hazard> pardon?
[04:31] <Yorokobi> nevermind
[04:31] <cyber-hazard> errr.....okay
[04:31] <cyber-hazard> :P
[04:31] <Yorokobi> your IP belongs to XO Communications. Granted, they parcel out a lot of IP space
[04:32] <Yorokobi> cyber-hazard: haha, I didn't mean XOXOX rotfl
[04:32] <cyber-hazard> lol
[04:32] <cyber-hazard> naw, I didn't think you did
[04:32] <cyber-hazard> as far as our IP, it comes from our T1, so i'm sure XO probably owns that network or something
[04:33] <Yorokobi> My employer has a T1 from them as well. My former had a 100MB ethernet connection. That was fun.
[04:33] <cyber-hazard> lol
[04:33] <cyber-hazard> our T1 sucks. we have a cable connection for downloading ISO's and stuff
[04:33] <cyber-hazard> I'm usually on that
[04:34] <Yorokobi> Yeah, my DSL is considerably faster than T1
[04:34] <Yorokobi> now I'm off topic ...
[04:35] <cyber-hazard> Uhoh
[04:35] <cyber-hazard> quick, answer questions!
[04:35] <cyber-hazard>  /cricket-chirp
[04:41] <Skrot-> Hi, does http://www.vg.no make konqueror (3.5.6) a bit unresponsive and laggy for other than me?
[04:44] <AxlRose> can anyone help me with a quick DOSBOX question
[04:44] <fignew> Skrot-: no major problems here
[04:44] <fignew> I don't have flash installed though
[04:45] <Skrot-> Seems a bit faster without flash
[04:46] <waxyfresh> can i get some repo related help::http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331
[04:56] <waxyfresh> is anyone in here?
[04:59] <NightBird> I'm not in here
[05:00] <waxyfresh> whys the room so slow?
[05:00] <hitmanWilly> maybe everyones stuff is working?
[05:01] <tulio__> or there are no doubts
[05:01] <waxyfresh> lol
[05:01] <toferrado> How can I set a screensaver as my desktop background?
[05:01] <waxyfresh> so anyone have an idea aboute my repo problem
[05:03] <kaner_> is there a way to invoke the new updater manually?
[05:04] <MarcC> Is there a way to find installed packages I haven't used for a while?
[05:04] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, don't know about the graphical one, but u can always run apt-get update
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, does the same thing, more or less
[05:05] <kaner_> well update will update the package list
[05:05] <kaner_> maybe your thinking of dist-upgrade
[05:05] <waxyfresh> marc deborphan or something like that
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, yeah, that's it
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, sorry, 10 things at once
[05:06] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to check kernel version?
[05:06] <hitmanWilly> uname -r
[05:06] <fannagoganna> uname -r
[05:06] <fannagoganna> or uname -a
[05:06] <chemicalvamp> whats the difernce
[05:06] <fannagoganna> uname -a tells you ALL the kernel info
[05:06] <fannagoganna> uname -r essentially gives you the version info
[05:06] <waxyfresh> can i get some repo related help::http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331
[05:06] <kaner_> cool, i didnt know if the new little tool did something fancy
[05:07] <fannagoganna> no, nothing fancy
[05:07] <fannagoganna> it works, so no, nothing too fancy :)
[05:08] <kaner_> heh, it just seems like every release they have a new gui upgrade deal
[05:08] <fannagoganna> i would be thrilled if every new release had half the bugs of the previous one :D
[05:08] <kaner_> i live for the bugs.
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> instead of twice
[05:08] <chemicalvamp> full upgrade in adept would get the newest kernel correct?
[05:08] <fannagoganna> it would yes get the newest one
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> the newest in the repos
[05:09] <kaner_> the newest one available to you atleast.
[05:09] <fannagoganna> although you could compile your own kernel if you wanted to
[05:09] <fannagoganna> it's not as scary as you might think
[05:09] <kaner_> not normally worth it though.
[05:09] <fannagoganna> it's relatively painless -- less painful than creating a gstreamer pipeline :)
[05:09] <chemicalvamp> NOO thanks lol, did that a few times when i used gentoo.. wasnt as fun as it sounded lol
[05:09] <fannagoganna> oh gentoo :(
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> kubu's easier, believe me
[05:09] <kaner_> it would actually be easier in gentoo
[05:10] <kaner_> i would say.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> still a pita
[05:10] <fannagoganna> most people prefer to do things other than compile their OS the whole time :)
[05:10] <kaner_> yeah i dealt with gentoo a little, but i dont like to wait for things to compile.
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> well, feisty has 2.6.20, so there's really no reason to yet
[05:10] <chemicalvamp> im sure my kernel is fine lol
[05:10] <kaner_> ubuntu seems to keep the kernals fairly up to date
[05:11] <fannagoganna> the kernel is usually the only thing in your OS that runs well :)
[05:11] <hitmanWilly> i think kernel.org is up to 2.6.20.4 stable
[05:11] <fannagoganna> by well, i mean flawlessly
[05:11] <fannagoganna> everything else, it's like free-as-in-clinic
[05:11] <fannagoganna> you get what you pay for
[05:11] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly, if i got 2.6.20 im guessing vmware wouldnt work?
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> dont see why not
[05:12] <hitmanWilly> if virtualization is enabled in the kernel, it should
[05:12] <chemicalvamp> uname -rcuz in adept the packages are kernel specific
[05:12] <chemicalvamp> oh ok
[05:12] <fannagoganna> well, also in Fedora
[05:12] <fannagoganna> for example, highmem, suspend, nvidia, etc.
[05:13] <fannagoganna> those are specific modified kernels i have seen
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> 2.6.20+ has virtualization built in so you don't need kernel mods
[05:13] <hitmanWilly> i don't think anyway
[05:14] <waxyfresh> whats the bennifit of compiling my own kernal?
[05:14] <jerry_> hj
[05:14] <jerry_> hi
[05:15] <kaner_> makes you a bigger man
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> waxyfresh, well, you can take out stuff you don't need, like support for other processors, telephony, video card modules, token ring support, etc
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> or compile modules straight in
[05:16] <kaner_> which could make it boot faster.
[05:16] <waxyfresh> does that make the computer run noticible better?
[05:16] <waxyfresh> cool
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> depends
[05:16] <waxyfresh> !kernal
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <kaner_> i dont think on a modern machine it does
[05:16] <waxyfresh> is there a how to anywhere?
[05:16] <waxyfresh> im on a old old box
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> i used to do it all the time, but i really don't see any noticeable improvement these days
[05:18] <kaner_> i this upgrade is going to finsih and my systems just going to eat it.
[05:19] <Skuller> hey guys...my friend just did a apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and rebooted...his login screen has changed but its still ubuntu desktop, any help?
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> Skuller, go to sessions and select KDE
[05:20] <kaner_> there should be a button on the login screen to change your session type
[05:20] <hitmanWilly> kdm will open the last opened desktop/WM
[05:21] <Skuller> ohh
[05:21] <Skuller> thas cool
[05:21] <waxyfresh> so noone knows whats wrong with my repos?
[05:21] <Skuller> hitmanWilly: thanks
[05:21] <hitmanWilly> Skuller, np
[05:22] <philphoto> what's a good utility to monitor CPU, mobo temps and fan speeds?
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> philphoto, try conky
[05:23] <philphoto> do I have control over speeds in conky?
[05:23] <philphoto> not that I have to, it's just a nice feature
[05:23] <hitmanWilly> philphoto, not that i know of
[05:23] <philphoto> thanks
[05:26] <os2mac> is anyone having a problem with their video adapter after the dist upgrade?
[05:26] <Skuller> philphoto: glassmonitor in superkaramba shud do the trick too
[05:27] <toferrado> How do I install xwinwrap?
[05:27] <kitche> os2mac: did you get updated drivers when you dist-upgrade?
[05:27] <philphoto> I kind of like this conky from what I see.  simple.  except, how do configure the utility?
[05:27] <kitche> philphoto: by hand check out the conky website to learn more
[05:28] <os2mac> yeah but it's a weird problem...
[05:28] <philphoto> gotcha
[05:28] <os2mac> my screen after login is fine. it's the login screen that's wonky. it's set to 640x480
[05:29] <Skuller> !redmond
[05:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redmond - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:29] <Skuller> !windows
[05:30] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:30] <philphoto> ha ha ha ha
[05:30] <Skuller> lol
[05:31] <Skuller> !equivalents
[05:31] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[05:32] <os2mac> Kitche: any ideas?
[05:32] <kaner_> hrm kinda scares me that there is a windows channel on freenode
[05:33] <Skuller> yea me too
[05:33] <Skuller> dint blve it first
[05:34] <Megiddo> How can I find out what version of kubuntu is installed on a machine?
[05:37] <Rade> I recently installed Dapper Drake, updated my sources.list, ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and now adept_updater shows that I need 35 updates.  When I run the update tool it finds none.  Any suggestions?
[05:37] <kaner_> it will be in the  /etc/lsb-release file
[05:37] <Rade> I thought maybe it just needed time to poll hte server, but this was since yesterday.
[05:37] <kaner_> if nothing else
[05:38] <Rade> It says edgy
[05:38] <Megiddo> Thanks kaner_
[05:38] <Rade> Ubunto 6.100
[05:38] <kaner_> np
[05:38] <kaner_> oh i was answering Megiddo
[05:38] <Rade> err 6.10
[05:38] <Rade> sorry
[05:40] <kaner_> Rade: you could do 'apt-get upgrade', i think that pretty much does the samething
[05:40] <sayers> Good night all
[05:40] <kaner_> afaik
[05:41] <Rade> The following packages have been kept back... then a list of what looks to be 35 packages
[05:42] <kaner_> you should be fine, apt knows what its doing
[05:43] <kaner_> i once thought i was smarter than it and broke sudo and about half of kde
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> kaner_, ditto
[05:43] <Rade> What's the app/tool that plays a default sound so I can work on configuring my sound?
[05:44] <darryl_> any of you guys use nomachine for remote desktop into your kubuntu box?
[05:44] <jordan> can anyone help me figure out why my WMP54G isn't showing up in lspci?
[05:47] <darryl_> anyone do desktop sharing?
[05:48] <kaner_> must be the first upgrade that it didnt break my video drivers
[05:48] <kaner_> hot
[05:52] <zeno_> ?
[05:55] <os2mac> what is the command to auto reconfigure x11
[05:55] <os2mac> dpkg-reconfigure x11org-x11server?
[05:56] <hawk_> how do i unzip a .7z file i have downloaded 7zip
[05:56] <Skuller> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:57] <os2mac> does that do it autodetecting or does it require input?
[05:57] <hawk_> !7zip
[05:57] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[05:57] <kaner_> it autodetects if i recall.
[05:57] <philphoto> what was that other cpu, mobo, temp utility that someone mentioned other than conky?  conky is a little quirky on my desktop & I'm going to have to learn a bit (willing to) to configure it properly.  until then, I'm looking for something to monitor temps & fan speeds.
[05:58] <hawk_> ark will not open a .7z file
[05:59] <robin> hay all, can i use win32 with kubuntu 64 bit?
[06:01] <hawk_> i think you can do that as long as wine is 32
[06:01] <hawk_> but dont go on what i say
[06:02] <dwidmann> robin: mind being a bit more specific?
[06:02] <kaner_> hawk_: mine does
[06:03] <robin> wins32 codecs
[06:03] <robin> work wit hkubuntu 64
[06:04] <robin> ?
[06:04] <pollyo> Hello
[06:04] <hawk_> nvm
[06:04] <robin> been awhile maybe i am not saying it right
[06:05] <robin> windwos codecs
[06:05] <kaner_> your saying it right, you want to use win32 codecs for like mplayer
[06:05] <robin> yes
[06:06] <robin> on 64 bit cpu, just bought it lol
[06:06] <kaner_> right
[06:06] <kaner_> and it does work
[06:06] <kaner_> but i think you have to use 32 bit mplayer
[06:06] <robin> dont know lol
[06:06] <kaner_> or 32 bit whatever app your using
[06:06] <robin> just installer kubuntu 64
[06:07] <kaner_> yeah, im saying that does work, but you have to use the 32 bit version of the apps, i think.
[06:07] <sstchur> why would konqueror be (seemingly) stripping the styles out of a page?
[06:07] <robin> oh ic
[06:07] <kaner_> try it though, im not 100% on it.
[06:07] <os2mac> OK, so why is my resolution at the login screen different than my regular desktop?
[06:08] <robin> so i need to add 32 bit source to source ist?
[06:08] <dwidmann> robin: the win32 codecs will only work in 32-bit programs, which can be run on 64-bit ...
[06:08] <nonuda_> yo guys, i have shared a folder (samba), but when i try to browse it from another box it said that i don't have the permission, how do i enable it?
[06:09] <robin> ok, thx you
[06:09] <os2mac> better question what is the Fiesty beta channel called?
[06:09] <Skuller> #ubuntu+1
[06:09] <nonuda_> ubuntu+1
[06:10] <nonuda_> !install
[06:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:10] <dwidmann> robin: look for a thread called "WMV9 on AMD64" on uf, or you could use this, a script I wrote -> http:www.xnowherex.net/simple64
[06:13] <dwidmann> program called mplayer32 that works well ...
[06:16] <ravan> if i install kubuntu fiesty beta now, would i have to reinstall when fiesty proper is released?
[06:17] <dwidmann> ravan: only if you're a clean install fanatic, in other words, no, you don't have to
[06:17] <ravan> if apt will take care of it, will my system be in exactly the same state as it would have been had i installed feisty proper directly(apart from the home folder)
[06:17] <ravan> dwidmann: ok
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> raven: should be
[06:21] <Goontz> yeah
[06:21] <Goontz> rofl...wrong window
[06:24] <chipbuddy> hello chaps
[06:25] <Goontz> I like wearing chaps
[06:25] <chipbuddy> ass-less chaps?
[06:25] <Goontz> Of course.
[06:25] <nixternal> oh lord, how did I know that was coming
[06:25] <chipbuddy> actually... all chaps are ass-less... a college friend of mine would get annoyed whenever someone specifically mentioned the "assless" kind
[06:26] <Goontz> haha, I guess that's true...
[06:26] <chipbuddy> so question... ok for starters i'm a ubuntu user, but i like this chatroom way more than the main one
[06:27] <chipbuddy> ok so the question is, i want to get a music player... and i'm thinking it is going to be some gui one.. but should i try to use something text-based, like mplayer?
[06:27] <Goontz> Blasphemy!
[06:27] <chipbuddy> which part? the gui... or using ubuntu on a kubuntu chatroom?
[06:28] <cpk1> amarok duh
[06:28] <chemicalvamp> loaded an xgl session and crashed at the same time as a shell - konsole window pops up.. any ideas?
[06:28] <chipbuddy> or am i going to hell for both
[06:28] <cpk1> you are asking in kubuntu =P
[06:28] <dwidmann> bah, too heavyweight, you should use ogg123 :P (just kidding altogether really)
[06:28] <cpk1> chipbuddy: however there is exaile which is an amarok clone that uses gtk libs
[06:29] <Alonea> chipbuddy: if you want a small player I also use Beep Media Player along with amarok
[06:29] <waxyfresh> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=401331 can i get some help fixxing my repos?i just updated them with source-oo-matic yet there still giving me crap
[06:29] <waxyfresh> im aboute to go all chuck norris on them
[06:30] <cpk1> if you want super duber lightweight use mpd I guess
[06:30] <ComputerHermit> lol
[06:30] <cpk1> waxyfresh: super duper even
[06:30] <Alonea> waxyfresh: did you do the key commands it tells you to do in the file?
[06:30] <waxyfresh> hmmmm
[06:30] <waxyfresh> no
[06:30] <waxyfresh> brb
[06:30] <chipbuddy> alonea, how do you mean "along with"?
[06:31] <Alonea> chipbuddy: oh, I use them both. Not that they actually work together. I use beep media player's alarm clock plugin. Just saying I use both.
[06:31] <chipbuddy> ah, ok
[06:32] <Alonea> waxyfresh: yeah, there are 2 commands and then you just put in the Key number that is before each repo. If you are just using the basic source list (first 2 check boxes) then I think there is only one Key code.
[06:33] <mzanfardino_> how do I reload/remount my USB drive after it's been unmounted.  It should mount automatically, but for some reason it's not
[06:33] <Alonea> chipbuddy: but amarok is really your best bet. Its quite nice.
[06:34] <cpk1> mzanfardino_: you need to know the dev point and then just do sudo mount /dev/sd*X /media/somefolder
[06:34] <Alonea> waxyfresh: basically just follow the instructions in your sources.list file.
[06:34] <chipbuddy> Alonea, i'm using gnome, so i'd prefer something that works with it... and i've used exaile before and i really liked it
[06:35] <mzanfardino_> cpk1: hmmm... yeah, i know I could do that, but I thought there was a command that automounts that I could run manually
[06:35] <wolferine> how do I burn a movie in linux?
[06:35] <wolferine> anyone have a URL?
[06:35] <hitmanWilly> !dvd
[06:35] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:35] <cpk1> mzanfardino_: if its in your fstab then you can do mount -a
[06:35] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[06:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:36] <draik> Where can I download/find fancy fonts?
[06:36] <draik> For OpenOffice
[06:36] <wolferine> so, where those for me?
[06:36] <hitmanWilly> wolferine, yes
[06:36] <wolferine> can you please re-read my question then?
[06:37] <cpk1> wolferine: kmedia-factory should do it for you
[06:37] <draik> wolferine: Use k9copy
[06:37] <cpk1> err kmediafactory
[06:37] <wolferine> which does conversiion and burn?
[06:37] <mzanfardino_> cpk1: naw, that's not doing it.  The drive is an external USB drive that automounts (generally).  However, when I start my VM that captures the drives, they auto-dismount.  Now that I've unloaded VM I'm expecting them to auto-mount again (I thought they used to but can't be certain)... I could have sworn I saw a command that would do that, but it wasn't mount -a (which I've tried to no avail)
[06:37] <cpk1> I think it takes care of conversion too
[06:38] <wolferine> nero-ish?
[06:38] <cpk1> open it up and try it out
[06:38] <wolferine> i cannot
[06:38] <wolferine> i was looking for more a a URL about it all really
[06:39] <cpk1> kmediafactory is pretty automagically if I remember correctly, otherwise use ffmpeg to convert to ntsc or pal and then burn using k3b or kmediafactory
[06:41] <wolferine> can i use it in Gnome though
[06:41] <klemen> hi
[06:41] <mzanfardino_> maybe I'm asking this the wrong way.  If you plug in a USB device such as a memory stick or iPod, Ubuntu automatically recognizes the device and mounts it.  What's the command that can force the usb bus to search for new devices and mount them?
[06:41] <klemen> how are u?
[06:41] <cpk1> ... you can use any app in either enviroment wolferine
[06:42] <klemen> is there somebody who can tell me
[06:42] <klemen> how to
[06:42] <klemen> install xgl
[06:42] <klemen> on kubuntu
[06:42] <cpk1> i dont know, if I need to mount something thats plugged in I just mount it myself
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> !xgl
[06:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:42] <klemen> sorry but i am newbie on linux
[06:42] <mzanfardino_> when I run lsusb the device is not listed.. is there a usb probe command?
[06:42] <wolferine> just doesnt show up in my menu
[06:42] <draik> klemen, what are you trying to do?
[06:42] <smileboot> is there a command that prevents the rolling bar coming up during install so i can see where the install is locking up ?
[06:43] <klemen> well i want to have a xgl desktop
[06:43] <mzanfardino_> since it's not showing up in lsusb, I'm assuming I can't mount it manually either... let me try
[06:43] <klemen> that's all
[06:43] <hitmanWilly> !xgl | klemen
[06:43] <ubotu> klemen: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:43] <klemen> thanks
[06:43] <klemen> a lot
[06:43] <klemen> one more question
[06:43] <klemen> there is a problem with internet
[06:43] <klemen> so
[06:44] <klemen> when i was on windows vista or xp
[06:44] <klemen> or mac os
[06:44] <klemen> the internet was
[06:44] <klemen> 3 -4 times faster
[06:44] <klemen> why is that slow there
[06:44] <klemen> on kubuntu
[06:44] <klemen> and ubuntu to
[06:46] <waxyfresh> !pastebin
[06:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:46] <smileboot> so is there such a command?
[06:55] <chemicalvamp> whats the command to get your video cards chipset info?
[06:57] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a cd burning program on ubuntu that will automatically convert mp3s to wavs for audio cds?
[06:57] <wolferine> anyone have experience with burning a video DVD in KMediaFactory?
[07:03] <chemicalvamp> how do i turn off UMA+Sideport and use JUST Sideport?
[07:06] <chemicalvamp> *crickets cherp*
[07:07] <wolferine> anyone have experience with burning a video DVD in KMediaFactory?
[07:08] <draik> !font
[07:08] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:10] <nonuda_> !smbfs
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smbfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:11] <hansent__> has anyone tried the dist upgrade tool for the 7.04 beta?  It doesn't seem to work on my instalation...
[07:12] <chemicalvamp> hansent__, i have... didnt work.. save yourelf some time and burn a desktop cd
[07:12] <hansent__> mphhh.....
[07:13] <wolferine> !codecs | wolferine
[07:13] <hansent__> chemicalvamp: how did you start it?
[07:13] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ the updrage tool?
[07:14] <wolferine> how about some help on codecs?
[07:14] <wolferine> the !codecs doesnt supply enough info...
[07:14] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[07:14] <hansent__> chemicalvamp: yeah, it doesnt start automatically after the wizard in adept like it it supposed to.  I dont knowis now what the binary is named or if its available from a menu.
[07:14] <chemicalvamp> what kind of codec
[07:15] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ what archetecture do you have
[07:16] <wolferine> ac3, is that JUST an audio codec?
[07:16] <hansent__> chemicalvamp: x86 (32bit)
[07:18] <chemicalvamp> hansent__ and this is in your repository? deb (next field) http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/archive-edgy-dist-upgrade-kde356-i386/ (next field) /
[07:20] <wolferine> chemicalvamp>i want to go from .avi to DVD
[07:20] <wolferine> which ever codec that requires
[07:21] <chemicalvamp> what player? have you checked the players website out yet?
[07:21] <wolferine> im not playing
[07:21] <wolferine> im burning
[07:22] <pollyo> wolferine: What re you using?
[07:22] <pollyo> are
[07:22] <wolferine> KMediaFactory
[07:24] <wolferine> Stream #0.0 : Video: mpeg2video, yuv420p, 720x480, q=2-31, 8000 kb/s : Stream #0.1 : : Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 192 kb/s : Unsupported codec (id=86020) for input stream #0.1
[07:24] <wolferine> looks like my audio codec isnt working...
[07:29] <chemicalvamp> currently my video card is running UMA+Sideport how do i turn off UMA and only run sideport?
[07:29] <pollyo> wolferine: Does kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins have anything to do with that?
[07:30] <mp9> nejaci cesi ? :)
[07:32] <chemicalvamp> or know a good place to look?
[07:33] <twiztr> A+ Training in so long...
[07:38] <pollyo> wolferine: When you start your project does it convert the avi?
[07:46] <macky> hi
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[07:48] <j__> Weirrrrrd
[07:48] <j__> Did anyone else have trouble here with their sound being crackly in Edgy?
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> macky just got kicked from ##linux for general asshatery
[07:49] <j__> I try messing with the sound in kde but it doesn't get better..
[07:49] <j__> Ha
[07:52] <Alonea> that he did...
[07:53] <pollyo> wolferine: Wish I could have been more help.  I was able to get Kmediafactory to use an AVI.  Maybe next time I can help out.
[07:54] <pollyo> Have to run...
[07:54] <pollyo> BBL
[07:54] <Ash-Fox> This is kind of sad, this is the 3rd time I wake up to find some guy in PM (from this channel) trying to 'sex me up' because he thinks I'm femae
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> its IRC, what do u expect?
[07:55] <Ash-Fox> I've ran many IRC networks, I expect people to behave decently.
[07:55] <hitmanWilly> yeah, one can always dream...
[07:56] <Ash-Fox> I am generally in places where people behave decently.
[07:56] <Ash-Fox> But it's kind of annoying that people are harassing people here based on their percieved gender.
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> u get idiots everywhere
[07:57] <Iwonder|too> bright guy
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> Ash-Fox: that should never happen, if that occurs again, talk to people in #ubuntu-ops
[07:59] <Alonea> I am always assumed to be male. Its fun. but people in this channel? odd...
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> Admiral_Chicago, noted.
[07:59] <sheldonc> Ash-Fox: did they actually use those words?
[07:59] <Ash-Fox> No.
[08:00] <Ash-Fox> I just tried to define it as best as I could :P
[08:00] <sheldonc> Ash-Fox: then a simple inquiry ?
[08:00] <erikja> !qt
[08:00] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[08:02] <dwidmann> Hmm, the katapult amarok plugin doesn't seem to be working at all in feisty :\
[08:06] <Ash-Fox> sheldonc, anyhow theres your answer. I'm going to get a drink.
[08:07] <twiztr> How do I install a tar.gz file?
[08:07] <twiztr> Ash-Fox: heh...
[08:08] <Ash-Fox> twiztr, tar.gz files are like a .zip file.
[08:08] <Ash-Fox> They're just archives, not installers.
[08:09] <twiztr> I mean, its the src install for a program.
[08:09] <twiztr> Meh, one second.
[08:09] <Ash-Fox> What is the name of the program?
[08:13] <twiztr> I am in the src file, and how do I make the makefile.deb
[08:13] <Ash-Fox> twiztr, What is the name of the program?
[08:16] <chemicalvamp> !paste
[08:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:16] <twiztr> Nvm, I got it to work.
[08:17] <twiztr> JohnTheRipper. I want to make sure my website isn't crackable.
[08:18] <Ash-Fox> twiztr, please, just tell me the application name. It might already be in one of the repositories thus saving you a lot of work when you need updates etc.
[08:20] <Alonea> nighty night dears. take care.
[08:21] <chemicalvamp> #beryl
[08:24] <smile> good morning ..
[08:24] <smile> how to exit X server ?
[08:25] <kumamoto> ctrl+Alt+Esc
[08:26] <smile> kumamoto: thx
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> ctrl + alt + backspace :)
[09:05] <posingaspopular> ohh Mez|OnAir is on again
[09:05] <posingaspopular> Mez|OnAir: play some 'gay bar' songs
[09:06] <abortd> hm
[09:06] <abortd> i wish i could broadcast music my connection sucks for uploading
[09:14] <v0taguz> What is the new in Kubuntu Feisty ?
[09:15] <posingaspopular> v0taguz: magic
[09:15] <abortd> its kubuntu feisty....
[09:15] <posingaspopular> actually im not too sure
[09:15] <posingaspopular> but im sure it works
[09:15] <abortd> what do you mean what is it?
[09:15] <abortd> its linux
[09:15] <posingaspopular> better ishould say. ive only used xubuntu feisty
[09:15] <abortd> its ubuntu
[09:15] <abortd> 7.14?
[09:16] <v0taguz> abortd: 7.04
[09:16] <v0taguz> :)
[09:16] <abortd> same deal
[09:16] <abortd> still what do you mean what is it?
[09:16] <v0taguz> I refer respect to KDE
[09:16] <abortd> ?
[09:16] <abortd> are you from portuguel?
[09:16] <posingaspopular> v0taguz: you mean KDE4
[09:16] <posingaspopular> ?
[09:17] <v0taguz> What is the new in Kubuntu respect to kDE
[09:17] <abortd> i stopped using kde
[09:17] <abortd> oh
[09:17] <gabrieldain> Is anybody having problems with the current version of Amarok?
[09:21] <ice_> gabrieldain: what kind of problems
[09:21] <ice_> ?
[09:22] <gabrieldain> Freezing and sometimes subsequent crashing, often right after starting it
[09:22] <posingaspopular> gabrieldain: you check the bugs or file a bug report?
[09:22] <gabrieldain> if I start i from a term, it says "Amarok it taking a long time to load! Perhaps something is wrong?" but no hints as to what is the problem
[09:23] <gabrieldain> No, because there is no bug, as far as I know. I cant say "It crashed" and nothing else
[09:24] <ice_> am,... I belive that there is aspecial command to lauch "heavy" graphicl apps
[09:37] <Mena> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 195.114.19.35 80] 
[09:38] <Mena> Why i get this when try to upgrade
[09:39] <gabrieldain> because the file listing all the packages in that repository is missing
[09:39] <Mena> so what to do
[09:40] <gabrieldain> Well, that means that repository is obsolete, so comment it out in sources.list
[09:40] <Mena> OK
[09:40] <gabrieldain> Although, I also have that repository, and I used it yesterday succesfully to install XGL/Beryl
[09:40] <gabrieldain> So I dont know what the problem is
[09:40] <gabrieldain> well, I do, but its not being consistent
[09:41] <Mena> OK
[09:45] <shookie> whats poppin guys
[09:46] <shookie> can someone help me troubleshoot this samba issue im having
[09:47] <unix_infidel> shookie: just ask your real question.
[09:47] <unix_infidel> be as specific as possible.
[09:47] <unix_infidel> include a pastebin of errors, and the chan will do what it can
[09:48] <pollyo> If I want to upgrade my system memory I have to spend more then the sytem is worth. lol
[09:55] <Mena> Thanks
[09:57] <pollyo> Is there an option like in windows to get the computers properties? CPU, Memory, etc?
[09:57] <smileboot> Hi im trying to install ubuntu or kubuntu  but everytime i try and boot from the cd or do a cd integrity check  i get to the rolling bar then it just locks up. anyone know what i can do to either 1) find out the problem or 2) fix it?
[09:59] <pollyo> smileboot: Have you tried safe video mode?
[10:02] <carve> anyone here have time to answer a question I have about kubuntu?
[10:02] <pollyo> carve: Just ask if someone has time and/or the answer they will help.
[10:06] <zouzou85> hi guys, when is kubuntu 7.-4 going to be out?
[10:06] <zouzou85> i mean the final release?
[10:06] <pollyo> zouzou85: Sometime soon it seems.
[10:07] <pollyo> zouzou85: I've heard towards the end of the month if all goes well.
[10:07] <zouzou85> there is no set date?
[10:07] <zouzou85> I just thought there was a set date,
[10:07] <pollyo> zouzou85: I've heard 19th.  Though I do not know if that is set in stone.
[10:07] <zouzou85> looking forward to it!
[10:08] <zouzou85> because there seems to be a bug in runit and git-daemon-runit in the beta version
[10:08] <pollyo> zouzou85: Have you made a bugreport?
[10:09] <zouzou85> i am not sure it is a bug.
[10:09] <zouzou85> still trying to figure out if it was just a mal-installation
[10:09] <pollyo> zouzou85: I suspect they could determine that if you made a report.
[10:10] <pollyo> zouzou85: I do not know enought about what you are saying to comment any further.
[10:10] <zouzou85> well, in fact, my fiance runs kubuntu, i use sabayon, so i haven't really had the time to check it
[10:11] <pollyo> Anyone know if there is a setting that will tell me my CPU type and speed?
[10:11] <zouzou85> i used a superkaramba theme to check it
[10:12] <carve> i'm having trouble installing WINE
[10:12] <zouzou85> how about uname -a in a terminal pollyo?
[10:12] <pollyo> zouzou85: I'm not a big fan of superkaramba I seem to get icons lost behind themes.
[10:12] <pollyo> zouzou85: I'll take a look at that command.
[10:12] <carve> it installed and I unpacked the files with ARK but how do I get the program to open
[10:13] <zouzou85> i am sure that command will give you the type of the cpu but not sure it will give you the speed
[10:13] <pollyo> carve: Wine does not have a windows desktop.
[10:14] <pollyo> carve: There is a filemanager of sorts.
[10:14] <pollyo> No speed....
[10:15] <pollyo> carve: Can't you install wine with Adept?
[10:15] <zouzou85> I am sure you can carve
[10:15] <carve> ive only been using kubuntu for a week now
[10:15] <carve> its all so new to me
[10:16] <carve> this is my first time using linux
[10:16] <zouzou85> have you used adept before?
[10:16] <pollyo> carve: I know that under K / Utilities it has wine options.
[10:16] <kumamoto> pollyo: I think #cat /proc/cpuinfo might give u some detail
[10:16] <carve> how do i get to k/utilites?
[10:16] <pollyo> carve: K <--- The K at the left bottom of your screen by default.
[10:16] <pollyo> carve: Then utilities on the list.
[10:17] <carve> ok
[10:17] <zouzou85> go to (start) then i believe it is system!
[10:17] <carve> i dont see it in utilities
[10:18] <pollyo> kumamoto: Thanks that shows it.
[10:18] <pollyo> carve: Did you install it with adept or apt-get?
[10:18] <pollyo> carve: or did you download a package?
[10:19] <carve> yeah I downloaded the package in the repository
[10:19] <carve> the  sudo apt get install wine
[10:19] <carve> then I found the files and unpacked them in ARK
[10:20] <pollyo> carve:You shouldn't have had to unark any files.
[10:20] <zouzou85> carve, just go to k>system>adept
[10:20] <carve> k
[10:20] <pollyo> carve: I believe the install option should have unarched everything.
[10:20] <pollyo> carve: And set it up.
[10:20] <pollyo> carve: Go into Adept and search for wine see if it stated the app is installed.
[10:21] <abortd> what runs games real well?
[10:21] <abortd> does wine still suck?
[10:21] <pollyo> abortd: Depends on what you want to do with it.
[10:21] <abortd> run a 3d game?
[10:21] <zouzou85> i heard activeX is not well implemented in WINE
[10:21] <pollyo> abortd: You might want to install windows itself for a game.
[10:22] <abortd> yeah well
[10:22] <wizard_> anyone know how to get knetworkmanager to not ask for wep every login? i told it to do so with kwallet but it still does
[10:22] <zouzou85> DIRECTX*
[10:22] <abortd> i dont feel you on that one
[10:22] <wizard_> and it seems to disconnect me at will
[10:22] <abortd> zouzou85, ?
[10:22] <carve> I found it
[10:22] <carve> thanks alot for the help
[10:22] <zouzou85> DIRECTX is not well implented in wine, but openGL works fine abortd
[10:23] <pollyo> carve: Wine has a data base that list some applications that work and do not work on wine.
[10:23] <abortd> can i substitute it?
[10:23] <abortd> i want to run this dungeon siege engine
[10:24] <carve> how do i look in the data base
[10:24] <abortd> you dont
[10:24] <CarinArr> i have a package that's badly broken, when i try to remove it it says i need to reinstall it first, when i try to reinstall it, it exits with errors.. what do i do
[10:24] <pollyo> carve: Load up your webbrowser and go to the wine homepage.
[10:24] <carve> ok
[10:24] <pollyo> CarinArr: Are you using adept?
[10:24] <abortd> isnt there a #winehq chan?
[10:25] <noiesmo> CarinArr, use sudo aptitude remove packagename
[10:25] <pollyo> abortd: There may be but if you are looking for what will or will not work they may direct you to the database.
[10:25] <wizard__> does anyone know why knetworkmanager would continually reset a connection?
[10:25] <CarinArr> pollyo: well adept just says it got an error.. i tried with dpkg which is where it tells me to reinstall first
[10:25] <wizard__> every few minutes the connection times out and i have to reconnect it :-(
[10:26] <pollyo> CarinArr: Have you tried aptitude?
[10:27] <CarinArr> pollyo: uhmm aptitude just interfaces with dpkg doesn't it
[10:27] <zouzou85> CarinArr, what is the name of the package?
[10:28] <pollyo> CarinArr: I am not 100% sure.
[10:28] <noiesmo> CarinArr, aptitude has better package resolution and will offer downgrades in packages to fix problems generally
[10:29] <wizard__> no one on knetworkmanager?
[10:29] <CarinArr> it's a package that's been converted from an rpm, so there won't be another version available to up/downgrade to
[10:29] <shookie> using kubuntu, i have set up a share. In windows i'm able to access the share machine via \\x.x.x.x\. However when i try to acces the shared folder \\x.x.x.x\sharefolder. It returns permission denied. I have followed three difference tutorials in ubuntuforums. And they have worked in edgy..
[10:29] <shookie> using feisty btw
[10:30] <shookie> i have used smbpasswd -L -a and -e
[10:31] <zouzou85> CarinArr, what is the name of the package? if i could know
[10:32] <CarinArr> zouzou85: awcommon, it's a licensing tool for autodesk maya.. unfortunately autodesk only distributes stuff in rpm so there won't be any support from there
[10:32] <zouzou85> I am asking cuz i have a similar problem
[10:33] <pollyo> CarinArr: Have you attempted to remove it with aptitude?
[10:33] <abortd> gnome is angering me
[10:33] <pollyo> CarinArr: To see if it gives you the same error ?
[10:33] <zouzou85> my problem is with runit, and yes i tried removing it, but it needs runit to remove it
[10:33] <zouzou85> and it needs runit to reinstall it
[10:34] <kumamoto> wizard__: I have experienced the same thing I think there is way of keeping but not sure how
[10:34] <zouzou85> so i am basically in a rut
[10:34] <CarinArr> pollyo: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[10:34] <CarinArr> and yes, it gives me the same message
[10:37] <Mena> By accident The upgrader tool closed
[10:37] <Mena>  is there any wrong if i made an update then an upgrade with terminal ?
[10:37] <Photon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14010/
[10:37] <Mena> Bec the upgrader tool already changed the source lst
[10:37] <Photon> ok
[10:37] <intelikey> waw!   Hit http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates/multiverse Packages
[10:37] <intelikey> Fetched 3B in 4s (1B/s)
[10:38] <Photon> i closed a file tab and i deleted the file
[10:38] <intelikey> how's that for a connection ?
[10:38] <Photon> and i am getiing this error in KDevelop
[10:38] <Photon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14010/
[10:39] <Photon> now what should i do?
[10:41] <intelikey> photon line 2   no rule to make blah.   either no Makefile in that dir or the makefile is not usable   try configuring it again.
[10:41] <pollyo> CarinArr: Is that from http://www.novedge.com/Suppo_Step3.asp?sType=2
[10:41] <Photon> ok i solved the proble
[10:41] <Photon> problem*
[10:42] <intelikey> hehhe  i just can't get over that,    "Fetched 3B in 4s (1B/s)"   ;/
[10:42] <CarinArr> pardon pollyo?
[10:43] <pollyo> CarinArr: The package you were discussing.
[10:43] <kumamoto> I wonder is kubuntu looks good with Luxi Sans font or Dejavu Sans condensed
[10:43] <CarinArr> it's from autodesk
[10:44] <CarinArr> i converted it to a .deb using alien, but it must not have converted the scripts properly, so dpkg crashed during install
[10:44] <CarinArr> or didn't crash, exited with error code
[10:44] <intelikey> kumamoto try it and see.  only you can say what "looks good" on your box.
[10:46] <kumamoto> intelikey: bet i will just trying to see anyone else use any one of them
[10:47] <Mena> kumamoto, try this font http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Lcars-Fonts?content=49050
[10:48] <Mena> fonts*
[10:49] <intelikey> font si
[10:50] <kumamoto> Mena: nice
[10:53] <intelikey> well i did install a game in wine and run it.    conclusion you need modern equipment to do that.   10 year old hardware just wont work.
[10:54] <wizard__> okay can anyone help me understand why stupid knetworkmanager loses its own connection repeatedly?
[10:55] <Jisao> Do you know what date in April will Feisty be released?
[10:55] <unix_infidel> if i use shred on a file on a usb drive is it as effective or less effective its on a non removable drive?
[10:55] <mrigns> 19th
[10:55] <intelikey> wizard*  !i   i've never used it.
[10:55] <Jisao> tx. Looking forward to see if it will be usable with my hardware (edgy is not).
[10:56] <intelikey> unix_infidel shred = more or less affective ???     syntax error in question.
[10:56] <Mena> kumamoto, yea
[10:56] <unix_infidel> intelikey: what do you mean.
[10:56] <intelikey> DESCRIPTION
[10:56] <intelikey>        Overwrite the specified FILE(s) repeatedly, in order to make it  harder
[10:56] <intelikey>        for even very expensive hardware probing to recover the data.
[10:57] <intelikey> unix_infidel that's what shred does.   i don't understand what you are asking.
[10:58] <unix_infidel> intelikey: no, i mean i have a usb flash drive and i'm using shred to "cover up my tracks"
[10:58] <unix_infidel> i'm wondering if its more or less effective on a flash drive compared to a nonremovable drive.
[10:59] <v0taguz> http://www.arrestados.com/arrestados_1_Bill_Gates.html
[10:59] <v0taguz> LOL
[11:00] <intelikey> unix_infidel  ^Ch^D<F
[11:00] <unix_infidel> intelikey: ?
[11:00] <intelikey> exactly.
[11:01] <pollyo> unix_infidel: What does shred do?
[11:01] <unix_infidel> intelikey: its 4am.
[11:01] <unix_infidel> its a simple question :)
[11:01] <adydas> owch
[11:01] <intelikey> i like simple questions.
[11:01] <adydas> Anyone reccomend software for linux <> Ipod use
[11:01] <wizard__> can anyone help me more understand why knetworkmanager 1: does not remember my wep key even when told to, and 2: disconnects me constantly.
[11:01] <intelikey> most of the time.
[11:01] <unix_infidel> pollyo:  shred  - overwrite a file to hide its contents,
[11:01] <unix_infidel>        and optionally delete it
[11:01] <intelikey> just not at 4am
[11:02] <pollyo> unix_infidel: I see.
[11:02] <unix_infidel> time for some coffee :)
[11:02] <intelikey> yeah where's genii ?
[11:02] <CarinArr> \o/ managed to remove it
[11:02] <CarinArr> though it wasn't pretty
[11:04] <intelikey> unix_infidel i think "maybe"  i see what you are asking.    is it this.   "can data be recovered more easily on flash cards as apposed to fixed disks?"      that ?
[11:06] <unix_infidel> intelikey: yea, based on the way flash drives read and write data.
[11:06] <intelikey> mmm k   short answer is  no.    over written flash drives are not more easily "recovered" when over writen.
[11:06] <unix_infidel> intelikey: thanks :)
[11:09] <intelikey> austrojedi from AUSTRIA
[11:09] <intelikey> nice nick...
[11:09] <abortd> can anyone tell me why the top cmd is lying to me?
[11:09] <intelikey> about ?
[11:10] <abortd> says i only got 48 megs of ram free
[11:10] <intelikey> abortd cause the rest is cached and buffered
[11:10] <intelikey> free -h
[11:10] <intelikey> third line.
[11:10] <abortd> should i free it?
[11:10] <abortd> i can?
[11:11] <abortd> ?
[11:11] <intelikey> free -h | head -3 | tail -1
[11:11] <abortd> ?
[11:11] <pollyo> Can a USB flash drive be used for swap memory?  Would that make a system faster?
[11:11] <intelikey> abortd sorry -m
[11:11] <intelikey> hehhe  :)
[11:12] <abortd> you have me confused
[11:12] <abortd> what the hell are you saying?
[11:12] <intelikey> pollyo not having swap would be faster...   but  to answer your Q  yes. it can be used.   you probably wont notice any differance.
[11:13] <abortd> not having swap is faster?
[11:13] <pollyo> intelikey: Yes but the cost of memory upgrade appears to be more then the value of my computer.
[11:14] <pollyo> intelikey: The crazy part is a USB flash drive with 1 gig appears to be cheap.
[11:14] <intelikey> free -m | head -3 | tail -1     <<< the first number is used the second number is free ram    in Mb
[11:14] <intelikey> pollyo how much ram do you have ?
[11:14] <pollyo> intelikey: I supose it must be slower memory in a flash drive.
[11:14] <pollyo> intelikey: 256Meg
[11:14] <tarelerulz> Do any of you now a media player that would read say somefile 00r and see the rest as movie?
[11:14] <abortd> -/+ buffers/cache:        295        461
[11:15] <intelikey> pollyo so you get into swap space how often ?
[11:15] <abortd> ?
[11:15] <intelikey> abortd so you have  461M free ram
[11:15] <pollyo> intelikey: With all the junk I have loaded on this quite often.
[11:15] <abortd> why is top lying to me?!
[11:15] <intelikey> pollyo then it might be a good deal for you... yes.
[11:15] <pollyo> intelikey: I suspect that if I offloaded some of the junk it wouldn't be so bad.
[11:16] <abortd> Mem:    774872k total,   739996k used,    34876k free,    16424k buffers
[11:16] <pollyo> intelikey: Though I think I might look at getting a $19 flash drive and see how that works out as sawp first.
[11:16] <intelikey> abortd it's not.  it's reporting the line just above what i just had you display.     free -h | head -2 | tail -1   <<<< see if that doesn't agree with top.
[11:17] <intelikey> eeeek  sorry.   not -h    -k
[11:17] <renato> hi, I am trying to copy some files into an usb key. as normal user it tells me it cannot do it as I do not have the permission to write into it, if I su and try to do chmod a+rwx it gives me no error but it does not change permission if I as root try to copy files over it gives me an error: cannot chown target directory.....what the hell?
[11:18] <intelikey> abortd     free -k | head -2 | tail -1   <<< agree with top ?
[11:18] <abortd> can i uncache stuff?
[11:18] <intelikey> the differance is the   "-/+ buffers/cache:"   ram the system has allocated but not actually used.
[11:19] <intelikey> abortd no need.  if the kernel sees something needing more ram it makes it avalable.
[11:19] <abortd> u said no swap is faster?
[11:19] <pollyo> How many writes does your average flash drive have before going bad?  Anyone know?
[11:19] <intelikey> linux is not like that other os   it uses ram in a totally different manor
[11:19] <pollyo> abortd: If you have no need for swap.
[11:20] <intelikey> abortd yes if you don't need it but the system actually uses it   then not having it would be faster.
[11:20] <abortd> i dont hink i do i have 700 some megs of ram
[11:20] <intelikey> that senerio is not likely to happen in linux  ^
[11:21] <abortd> so can i just delete it and extend the linux partition?
[11:21] <abortd> so u always need it?
[11:22] <iarwain> hi there, anyone know why i get 'failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant' when trying to start wpa_gui in Feisty?
[11:23] <intelikey> abortd i run one box with 256M ram and no swap.   another with 96M and no swap.          most people will tell you "don't run without swap"   however some that have adamently steressed that "you must have swap" have checked and found that they didn't even have it and were not even aware of the fact....   thus   unless you normally do more than you have ram for   swap is useless.
[11:24] <abortd> do u think i would need it?
[11:24] <abortd> is there a partition tool for gnome?
[11:24] <iarwain> abortd: gparted?
[11:24] <abortd> just sudo apt-get it?
[11:24] <abortd> that the one on the live cd?
[11:25] <iarwain> abortd: what do you mean, on the live cd? (i never used a Gnome livecd ^^)
[11:25] <intelikey> abortd if you edit movies.   of do lots of large high bitrate photo editing  you might.  normal users with more than 512 will never notice that they don't have swap if you turn it off without them knowing it.
[11:25] <intelikey> of/or ^
[11:26] <intelikey> !gparted
[11:26] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:26] <abortd> so it makes no difference it doesnt run faster either way?
[11:26] <abortd> i got it open now
[11:26] <intelikey> abortd not unless the "swappiness is too high"   (not an issue for you)
[11:27] <iarwain> abortd: what do you mean, run faster either way?
[11:27] <abortd> so u can just turn it on and off?
[11:27] <iarwain> abortd: i didn't read all the way to your question ^^
[11:27] <intelikey> abortd yes.
[11:27] <intelikey> abortd   sudo swapoff -a
[11:27] <abortd> hah nice
[11:27] <toferrado> My USB Clone 180W audio device are not working on kubuntu. What should I do?
[11:27] <abortd> i did it with gparted
[11:28] <intelikey> !sound | toferrado
[11:28] <ubotu> toferrado: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:28] <intelikey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[11:29] <iarwain> anyone know why i get 'failed to open control connection to wpa_supplicant' when trying to start wpa_gui in Feisty?
[11:29] <abortd> lets say u have crap for ram will the swap take the rams place if lets say u use 128mb ram stick and want to run stuff that takes 512 mb the swap will cover it?
[11:29] <intelikey> abortd one can turn swap off and remove the swap partiton   then if needed at any time make a swap file on the main partition/fs
[11:30] <intelikey> abortd yes  but    slow slow slow
[11:30] <abortd> im trying to figure out why totem is taking 7% cpu and swaps it with xorg
[11:31] <intelikey> iarwain   #ubuntu+1  maybe ?
[11:31] <iarwain> intelikey: thanks, gonna look there =)
[11:32] <intelikey> !feisty
[11:32] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:32] <abortd> what day is the release the 7th?
[11:32] <intelikey> 24  ?
[11:32] <abortd> :/
[11:32] <intelikey> !schedule
[11:33] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[11:33] <intelikey> second linky
[11:35] <abortd> 19th
[11:36] <jeanmass> hello
[11:36] <jeanmass> is it possible to syn kontact and google calendar?
[11:36] <ubuntu_ian>  hi. How would i go about telling ubuntu that there are 2 identical graphics cards on the pci exprees motherboard?
[11:38] <pollyo> BBL
[11:38] <intelikey> !dualhead | ubuntu_ian
[11:38] <ubotu> ubuntu_ian: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[11:43] <ubuntu_ian> hmm lspci only lists one VGA adapter
[11:43] <intelikey> lshw
[11:44] <hendaus> somebody help me please
[11:46] <nodesert> how can i include a head file from a directory (/usr/include) in c++ code
[11:46] <hendaus> anyone knows about amule?
[11:47] <intelikey> ##C   or   ##C++   maybe ?
[11:47] <intelikey> or single hash  i don't recall.
[11:48] <intelikey> i think there is an official #C++ channel
[11:48] <nodesert> i tried  "/usr/include/sd.h" with -l parameter
[11:48] <nodesert> ok
[11:48] <nodesert> sorry
[11:48] <intelikey> not that we don't care.  just that i don't know C
[11:49] <tux> hi guys, need your help (again)
[11:50] <tux> i get the error couldnt find the mime type or something all the time in kubuntu (6.10
[11:50] <tux> )
[11:51] <user__> hi all
[11:52] <tux> does anyone know how to fix this error?
[11:54] <tux> hello?
[11:54] <tux> i get the error couldnt find the mime type or something all the time in kubuntu (6.10) how can i fix that
[11:54] <tux> ...
[11:55] <tux> anyone home here?
[11:55] <keyo> yep
[11:55] <tux> ok
[11:56] <tux> i need some help with some stupid errors in KDE
[11:56] <tux> mimetypes that cant be found
[11:56] <keyo> ok, probably can't help u but i'll try
[11:56] <keyo> so what triggers the errors
[11:57] <tux> dunno it pops up every now and then
[11:57] <tux> especially when using konqueror
[11:57] <keyo> mimetypes are icons i think
[11:58] <keyo> i'll check if they are, if so installing an icon set might fix it
[12:00] <orange1> !MAC
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <keyo> tux: a minetype is basicly defining what type of file something is
[12:00] <orange1> !mac address
[12:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac address - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <orange1> how do i change my mac addy?
[12:01] <keyo> tux: is there a particular type of file it doesn't like
[12:05] <keyo> does anyone know how i can restart alsa
[12:05] <keyo> when i unlock my laptop from suspend or hibernate i cant get sound
[12:06] <keyo> tux: have you upgraded to the latest version of kde
[12:06] <tux> no
[12:06] <tux> but it's fixed
[12:06] <tux> removed a file octet stream in my home dir
[12:07] <tux> and the error is gone
[12:08] <keyo> i was going to sugest putting some settings in konqorer for oct stream
[12:09] <tux> :P
[12:11] <orange1> c1|freaky: ya there?
[12:12] <dikti> halloo
[12:23] <intelikey> was just reading  "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StreamlinedBoot"  last section  rc2   i understand why.  but it's the exact oppisite of what i would do.  and do on this box.     reason.  if something after 13 fails the user never knows unless someone dirrects them to the logs...      when i boot a system i want to know what gets an  [ok]   and what gets an  [error]    ...
[12:26] <unix_infidel> anyone know what it means when gpg says WARNING: Using insecure memory.
[12:27] <intelikey> ram# world readable ?
[12:27] <se7en11> my new 17 inch screen wants 1280 x 1020 but i cant change higher than 1024 x 768 in system settings ????
[12:28] <intelikey> !xorg | se7en11
[12:28] <ubotu> se7en11: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:29] <se7en11> ctrl+alt+backspace would do the same right intelikey
[12:31] <intelikey> not exactly  but generally close enough.    but that's not going to help unless you reconfigure xorg first.
[12:33] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+backspace is the  ^C  for  Xorg   while  ?dm restart does also reset Xorg  it rereads the ?dm configs as well.   i'm not sure that   ctrl+alt+backspace  will do that.    umm pretty sure it doesn't.
[12:35] <intelikey> how ever on that particular topic of intrest, there would be no change in the ?dm configs  so it's a moot point for that purpose.
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[12:36] <magnus__> do kubuntu have support for 'fiber' connection ?
[12:50] <sYnie> after the last kubuntu upgrade, all my c++ programs don't work on machines with older kernels anymore. i always get a "FATAL: kernel too old". is there anyw ay to fix this?
[12:51] <sYnie> till now, all my selfcompiled small tools worked on my older servers. but now, every single recompiled program doesn't work anymore.
[12:53] <intelikey> libc6 version i suspose.   i don't have the answer to your Q though.   what did you "upgrade to?"
[12:54] <sYnie> i just dud a apt-get upgrade. but i can't remember which packages got updated
[12:54] <sYnie> did**
[12:54] <intelikey> sYnie if feisty   ask in  #ubuntu+1   you might get an answer...    else.  maybe someone in  #ubuntu   cause that question is not  kde specific.
[12:55] <sYnie> oh, okay, sorry ;-) and thanks
[12:55] <intelikey> oh don't be "sorry"    i'm sorry i can't answer.
[12:56] <intelikey> magnus__   i'm sure  FO is supported.  but i know nothing of networking..
[12:57] <intelikey> did i miss anyone else  ???
[12:57] <intelikey> if not i'll go back to reading....
[01:01] <gelsen> Hello, I have a PPPoE over ATM connection. When my internet connection drops down I have to reboot my comp, to reconnect, what can be the cause?
[01:05] <anti_pop> my ssystem freezes when downloading a lot..and i find this error in the log: 05.04.2007 12:48:02 localhost kdm_greet[5628]  Internal error: memory corruption detected
[01:09] <XVampireX> Hi
[01:10] <intelikey> anti_pop which release ?
[01:10] <intelikey> XVampireX
[01:10] <XVampireX> Can anyone please tell me what the package for the kde theme manager is?
[01:11] <intelikey> gelsen i have no idea.
[01:11] <XVampireX> The one that people can make unified themes with, so they load 1 file and it sets everything, color, style, window decoration, etc...
[01:11] <anti_pop> intelikey: feisty..but i foud this bug here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/47455
[01:11] <XVampireX> Any idea?
[01:11] <intelikey> anti_pop ok....   and the  feisty channel is  #ubuntu+1
[01:12] <intelikey> !theme
[01:12] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[01:12] <intelikey> !changethemes
[01:12] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[01:12] <intelikey> XVampireX i'm still looking
[01:13] <anti_pop> intelikey: its not a feisty problem but nvm
[01:14] <XVampireX> intelikey: Oh, maybe it's in kde itself
[01:14] <XVampireX> Yeah it is :P
[01:19] <limbo> hello
[01:20] <limbo> i have a little problem. i have a fresh install of kubuntu on my macbook. But i think its loked on optical sound. What shuld i do?
[01:21] <intelikey> !sound
[01:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:21] <intelikey> check the trubble shooting page and see if it helps you any ^
[01:22] <chijin> heh
[01:22] <chijin> just open kmix and open the switches tab and see if the digital is enabled
[01:22] <chijin> if so, disable it
[01:22] <chijin> shouldn't be any harder than that
[01:23] <limbo> a red light is coming out of where the minijack is suposed to be
[01:23] <chijin> then open the kmix and disable it
[01:25] <limbo> what shuld be disabled?
[01:25] <limbo> line in as output?
[01:26] <chijin> my digital is iec958 output
[01:26] <limbo> the the "red lamp" shuld be "glowing"?
[01:27] <chijin> if you're using analog, then no
[01:29] <jack> i've got the problem that when i am idle xorg's cpu load goes up to 100%.
[01:29] <limbo> http://bildr.no/view/53036
[01:29] <limbo> there is a picture of how it looks
[01:29] <jack> and the desktop freezes then, no problem when i actively use any application
[01:30] <chijin> limbo: with that exact audio chip (hda intel) i had to enable the head phone jack. it's disabled as default i think
[01:31] <chijin> limbo: do hear audio from the laptop speakers
[01:31] <chijin> limbo: do you*
[01:33] <cyt> I find that there is eth0:avah interface on my notebook. What does the 'avah' mean?
[01:34] <jack> hey can anybody help with my prob above?
[01:35] <coty> can someone tell me how to get torrent downloads faster than 20 kb/s
[01:35] <coty> im using ktorrent
[01:37] <cntb> what is the analogous of windows daemon tools to mount iso in ubuntu ?
[01:44] <orange1> cntb: when u find out - let me know
[01:45] <orange1> !iso
[01:45] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:45] <orange1> cntb: found the answer for the both of us
[01:47] <limbo> chijin: do you know how to solve my problem?
[01:49] <cntb> ty orange1
[01:50] <chijin> limbo: well i googled it, i can't remember how anymore
[01:51] <limbo> okey
[01:51] <JuJuBee> What is the command to mount a share on a server with a specific uid?
[01:52] <JuJuBee> I tried mount -U myUID server.ip.address:/share /local/mountpoint
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> has the second beta come out for fiesty yet?
[02:07] <smile> hellom i hav a prblm with compiz
[02:07] <smile> i get gnome-window-decorator, Failed to load shadow images
[02:07] <smile> and compiz.real: No composite extension
[02:08] <sonoftheclayr> smile: #ubuntu-effects
[02:08] <jack> hey can anybody help me? when i am idle xorg goes up to 100%cpu load
[02:09] <jack> and the desktop freezes
[02:13] <hanzz> hi.. where can i report upgrade bug? i click "close" instead of "report bug"... thx :D
[02:18] <sskk> Hi.. I can't believe this.. during the partition resizing part of the Kubuntu install process I was hit by a power failure. I feared for my harddrive, but that's working just fine. However my machine has completely lost contact to the CD-drive. Not even the BIOS can see the CD-rom drive... Any hints at all ?
[02:18] <vain> sskk: it's fried :D
[02:19] <sskk> argh - by why?
[02:27] <klemen> hi everyone
[02:28] <klemen> is someone there?
[02:28] <Riddell> klemen: plenty people are
[02:28] <klemen> aha
[02:29] <klemen> and so how are u?
[02:29] <klemen> riddell
[02:29] <klemen> another question
[02:29] <klemen> from where are you
[02:29] <klemen> ?
[02:29] <Riddell> klemen: this is a support channel, #kubuntu-offtopic for chat
[02:30] <reagleBRKLN> i have a kinesis keyboard, how do i figure out, assign my "super key"?
[02:31] <klemen> ah so
[02:31] <klemen> then something
[02:31] <klemen> how to install xgl desktop on my kubuntu linu
[02:31] <klemen> linux*
[02:31] <klemen> ????????????
[02:32] <limbo> my headphones wont work on my computer but my speakers work (Macbook). its somthing wring with my minijack port
[02:32] <limbo> wrong*
[02:32] <klemen> you have a mac book?
[02:32] <limbo> yes
[02:33] <klemen> sometnig
[02:33] <klemen> which model?
[02:33] <limbo> CoreDuo
[02:33] <limbo> 2 ghz
[02:33] <klemen> screedn
[02:33] <limbo> not core2duo
[02:33] <klemen> sreen
[02:33] <klemen> oh
[02:33] <klemen> screen
[02:33] <limbo> 13 inch
[02:33] <klemen> 12''??
[02:33] <limbo> noe
[02:34] <limbo> Macbook
[02:34] <klemen> 15?
[02:34] <klemen> 17?
[02:34] <klemen> ah
[02:34] <klemen> ok
[02:34] <limbo> macbook not macbook pro
[02:34] <klemen> i know
[02:34] <klemen> 12
[02:34] <limbo> 13
[02:34] <klemen> how 13
[02:34] <limbo> widescreen
[02:34] <klemen> nevermind
[02:34] <klemen> how much did you paid for?
[02:34] <limbo> apple.com
[02:34] <klemen> ok
[02:35] <klemen> and
[02:35] <klemen> one more thing
[02:35] <klemen> isnt mac os x bether than linux?
[02:35] <klemen> kubuntu*
[02:35] <limbo> meh, i want to try somthing new
[02:35] <klemen> oh
[02:35] <klemen> you have an enspensive toyz
[02:35] <klemen> :D
[02:35] <limbo> i thought this was a support channel
[02:35] <klemen> expensive*
[02:35] <limbo> i know
[02:36] <klemen> yes that is but nevermind
[02:36] <limbo> it is a investment
[02:36] <klemen> yes
[02:36] <klemen> but that investment will be
[02:36] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me with mount -U syntax?
[02:36] <klemen> very cheap
[02:36] <klemen> in next 2 years
[02:36] <limbo> jepp
[02:36] <klemen> :d
[02:36] <klemen> i want to have one
[02:36] <Jucato> !offtopic
[02:36] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:36] <klemen> but you know
[02:37] <klemen> that is to inspesive for me
[02:37] <klemen> ok
[02:37] <klemen> wr will
[02:37] <klemen> we*
[02:37] <klemen> btw. www.ex-planet.com
[02:37] <sskk> limbo: consider parallels - then you can fairly easy experiment with linux (and windows) while you're still at home in your osx
[02:37] <limbo> i know
[02:38] <limbo> i dont like parallels
[02:44] <Jucato> anyone familiar with DVF sound format? (Sony Compressed Voice Format)?
[02:46] <zipper> So uhm, the last couple of times i've tried installing (k)ubuntu on a pc with windowsXP already installed, it have resulted in windows not being able to boot up. Grub works fine, and windows start loading, but it fails starting up with an error about having trouble finding some file. What gives?
[02:53] <cntb> how can I make edgy work with 7800gtx nvidia
[02:53] <zipper> cntb, i would recommend you grabbing the latest driver off nvidia's site
[02:53] <CarinArr> then pray
[02:53] <zipper> and follow the guide on ubuntu forums/ubuntu wiki
[02:53] <cntb> zipper right pray
[02:53] <CarinArr> cntb: in edgy !envy is a good tool to install latest nvidia drivers
[02:54] <cntb> windows part was not easy
[02:54] <genii> dwidmann and pizza
[02:54] <zipper> CarinArr, is envy like automatix?
[02:55] <zipper> if so, be careful using it. It's awesome when it works, but when it doesnt.... sigh
[02:55] <dwidmann> genii: hahaha
[02:55] <dwidmann> zipper: no, not really
[02:55] <CarinArr> zipper: don't know what automatix is, but basically it finds the latest drivers depending on what card you have, and install them while making sure there aren't any leftovers from other drivers in your ystem
[02:55] <dwidmann> !automatix > carinarr
[02:55] <CarinArr> i don't think envy would be any more disastrous if it goes wrong than it would be using the nvidia installer
[02:56] <CarinArr> can't see why it would
[02:56] <zipper> CarinArr, doesnt seem like it the way you're describing it
[02:56] <dwidmann> envy is essentially using the nvidia installer, without having to use the nvidia installer (read as: autopilot)
[02:57] <CarinArr> i just installed fesity the other day and realised there's no envy for it yet.. shock and horror i had to go back to using the nvidia installer
[02:58] <CarinArr> feisty too
[02:58] <dwidmann> CarinArr: the nvidia-glx package in the envy repositories is up-to-date
[02:58] <dwidmann> **in the feisty repo...
[02:58] <cyt> Any stable tool to convert ntfs partiton to ext3 format?
[02:58] <CarinArr> dwidmann: it wasnt always in the past though, so i've always avoidd using nvidia-glx
[02:59] <dwidmann> CarinArr: it always is at release time, but after release it doesn't get touched
[02:59] <zipper> cyt, well, copy all your data to an already existing ext3 partition, and then copy back when you've made the ntfs partition to ext3
[02:59] <zipper> cyt, otherwise, no
[02:59] <zipper> and there probably never will be
[02:59] <cyt> zipper: thx ;)
[02:59] <CarinArr> dwidmann: aha.. doesn't really work for me then.. i'm beta testing a software and whenever something goes wrong the first thing to check is whether you're using the latets drivers
[03:00] <CarinArr> and i remember cleaning my system of the nvidia-glx stuff was a pretty annoying task on dapper
[03:00] <zipper> cyt, mind you, you could use any open filesystem (reiserFS, ext2, whatever) as the "backup" partition
[03:00] <dwidmann> CarinArr: that can also be a source of p roblems, especially for the devs if there would be multiple versions of the drivers in the repository. Besides, for the nvidia-glx package, you can always use lupine's repo
[03:01] <dwidmann> it's always up-to-date
[03:01] <CarinArr> mmm might look at it at some point
[03:01] <CarinArr> if i start having problems with the nvidia installer again;)
[03:01] <dwidmann> for future reference:
[03:01] <dwidmann> !nvidia9 > CarinArr
[03:03] <CarinArr> thanks
[03:03] <zipper> cyt, np btw
[03:04] <cyt> zipper: :D
[03:05] <cntb> CarinArr,  http://nvidia.limitless.lupine.me.uk/ubuntu/ koo
[03:06] <cntb> sorry know how to use it
[03:06] <cntb> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx  ? CarinArr ?
[03:06] <CarinArr> hm?
[03:07] <cntb> nvidia-glx seem to be on kernel 2.6.17-10-386
[03:13] <dwidmann> genii: you wouldn't happen to have any wizardly advice on how to (properly) set up alsa for a 5.1 speaker setup would you?
[03:14] <busfahrer> hi, one of my cd-roms automounts (with a symbol on the desktop), the other doesn't, how could I try to fix this?
[03:14] <genii> dwidmann Nah my specialties are networking and occasionally some specific hardware issue i've had to deal with already :)
[03:14] <zipper> busfahrer, you sure that other cd works?
[03:15] <busfahrer> zipper: yep
[03:15] <zipper> busfahrer, tried ejecting and re-inserting it?
[03:15] <busfahrer> zipper: I think the other one used to work too, not sure about that though.
[03:15] <busfahrer> zipper: did that
[03:15] <zipper> seems wierd that one cd automounts and the other one doesnt
[03:15] <dwidmann> busfahrer: sure it isn't the disk?
[03:15] <zipper> is it burned with some obscure filesystem or?
[03:15] <busfahrer> dwidmann: lemme try
[03:15] <CarinArr> busfahrer: just the one drive or two diferent drives?
[03:16] <zipper> So uhm, the last couple of times i've tried installing (k)ubuntu on a pc with windowsXP already installed, it have resulted in windows not being able to boot up. Grub works fine, and windows start loading, but it fails starting up with an error about having trouble finding some file. What gives? Could it have anything to do with me using MSDN's winXP with SP2, or me having windows installed on something else than C:?
[03:17] <busfahrer> damn it, it was the disk, I was sure it'd work. Sorry for wasting your time :-)
[03:17] <zipper> np :)
[03:18] <dwidmann> busfahrer: I've had plenty of trouble with it before, so I thought I'd ask
[03:18] <dwidmann> zipper: which file?
[03:18] <zipper> dwidmann, usch... if i could remember i'd tell you
[03:18] <zipper> might be xxxHAL.dll
[03:19] <zipper> its wierd... i've installed linux a dozen times without this happening
[03:19] <CarinArr> never happened to me either
[03:22] <zipper> CarinArr, its not just me, one of my friends experienced the very same thing
[03:22] <zipper> installing completes successfully, and linux can boot. Windows however, cannot
[03:23] <dwidmann> You say you don't have it on C:, windows hates not being on C, it also known to cry if it's not on the first partition of the first hard drive.
[03:26] <zipper> dwidmann, i know, but uhm... Dont have enough free space to change that situation =/
[03:26] <slestak> anyone know a way of determining what apps have used my ppp connection last?  I dialed in w my laptop, and none of my apps seem to be able to connect, but I've had 5M of traffic logged by kppp
[03:27] <zipper> genii, i believe A: and B: is reserved for floppy drives :)
[03:27] <slestak> maybe a find for the newest modified or created files on the system?
[03:27] <CarinArr> eeeew vista
[03:27] <genii> zipper Yes, exactly
[03:30] <zipper> dwidmann, hopefully in some satanic ritual
[03:30] <genii> dwidmann MS keeps sending 5 copies of whatever they produce to where I work. so they are laying around anyhow
[03:30] <zipper> heh, i'm getting vista for free as well. Still sticking with Xp though
[03:31] <dwidmann> and I'm not getting Vista at all :)
[03:31] <zipper> same
[03:31] <dwidmann> (Maybe I would consider taking it if Microsoft threw in a copy of Adobe Photoshop or something)
[03:31] <zipper> bad english of me
[03:31] <zipper> i get vista offered for free
[03:31] <CarinArr> i got vista free with my laptop
[03:32] <zipper> is what i meant
[03:32] <dwidmann> Heh, odds are you both paid for it without knowing it.
[03:32] <slestak> i installed my free upgrade to my dell to dual boot.  kind wanted to see, you know like when driving by an accident
[03:32] <david> hry
[03:32] <CarinArr> dwidmann: *shrug* possibly, didn't have much choice though
[03:32] <CarinArr> i gaeve it two weeksi had it installed fro two weeks alongside ubuntu berfore
[03:33] <CarinArr> er for gods sake
[03:33] <CarinArr> i wish my ssh session would stop lagging and i could see what i typed
[03:33] <zipper> dwidmann, actually, buying a dell with vista or xp is cheaper than buying it without an OS
[03:34] <dwidmann> I feel your pain ... my connection knows little else, mostly just lag
[03:34] <CarinArr> i had it installed alongside ubuntu for two weeks and i DID give it a chance.
[03:34] <CarinArr> it was just horrible
[03:34] <dwidmann> zipper: I know, it's sad.
[03:34] <zipper> sad indeed
[03:34] <dwidmann> You know what's cheaper still?
[03:34] <CarinArr> our router is messed up royally.. new one in the post by haven't got it yet
[03:35] <dwidmann> my router setup is fine (hooray gigabit ethernet!), I'm just stuck with an awful internet connection :(
[03:35] <CarinArr> our router stalls all connections every few minutes
[03:35] <zipper> god i love windows networking... Its just like playing the lottery
[03:36] <zipper> can ping my machines, but i can no longer see shares, horray
[03:36] <dwidmann> hahaha
[03:36] <CarinArr> it's ridiculous when you're sat transferring files from the laptop to the desktop and the connection times out
[03:36] <CarinArr> they're bloody 2 foot apart!
[03:36] <zipper> but i guess expecting it to work after a reboot was demanding a bit too much
[03:36] <dwidmann> CarinArr: that is sad, I'd use a crossover cable for that or something maybe ... if the router is acting up t hat bad
[03:37] <dwidmann> zipper: the almighty windows reboot didn't fix it :O
[03:37] <CarinArr> dwidmann: yeah i would if it was anything urgent.. can't be bothered messing with it now the other router is on its way though
[03:38] <zipper> dwidmann, it actually broke it =/
[03:38] <zipper> dwidmann, i wonder if another reboot would cancel it out...
[03:38] <dwidmann> zipper: according to your lottery analogy, it might
[03:38] <zipper> =)
[03:38] <slestak> ahh, adept updating package list when i dialed in, i think.
[03:39] <zipper> sigh, and my ISP has started to charge me for a connection they have still to setup
[03:39] <zipper> great
[03:39] <zipper> its just my lucky day today
[03:40] <dwidmann> zipper: it's a sign that they love you
[03:42] <zipper> dwidmann, no... them closing down their support lines for the holiday is them showing me their love
[03:42] <zipper> =(
[03:43] <PeterPan^> is there a way to make a live cd of my 'installed linux' ?
[03:43] <dwidmann> PeterPan^: sort of
[03:44] <dwidmann> I forget where I saw how to do it
[03:44] <genii> You can do a mkisofs of it then make sure the / and so on are mounted with iso9660 and so on before burning it
[03:44] <dwidmann> it was definitely mentioned here:
[03:44] <dwidmann> nnel ("Konversation terminated!").
[03:44] <dwidmann> [09:42]  <zipper> dwidmann, no... them closing down their support lines for the holiday is them showing me their love
[03:44] <dwidmann> [09:42]  <zipper> =(
[03:44] <dwidmann> crud, it didn't copy
[03:44] <genii> mkiso rather :)
[03:45] <dwidmann> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[03:45] <dwidmann> there we go ...
[03:49] <genii> PeterPan^:  You may find some good info and pointers here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[03:53] <zipper> ARGH
[03:53] <zipper> god dammit
[03:54] <Daisuke_Ido> !ohmy | zipper
[03:54] <ubotu> zipper: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:55] <zipper> cmon, "god dammit" IS family friendly. I mean, by the age of 8, most have already seen murders and orgies on tv
[03:55] <zipper> or was that just me? :P
[03:55] <Daisuke_Ido> no, it isn't.
[03:55] <PeterPan^> genii thanks
[03:56] <pixelation> I upgraded from Ubuntu to Kubuntu and I was wondering if someone could give me a safe command to purge the gnome stuff (especially the desktop environment) but I need the safest command possible. anyone?
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> afaik, there's no easy way to do so aside from removing packages one by one
[03:56] <Jucato> pixelation: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[03:57] <pixelation> ok.
[03:57] <pixelation> ok thanks.
[03:57] <genii> PeterPan^:  :)
[03:57] <pixelation> so, is it safe to do "remove gtk-desktop"?
[03:57] <dwidmann> PeterPan^: I think I found it http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/09/customizing_ubuntu_live_cd_606_1.html.  That's the post I saw it in. Took me a while
[03:57] <genii> zipper I'm pretty sure it was just you :)
[03:57] <zipper> =(
[03:58] <PeterPan^> dwidmann thanks
[03:58] <pixelation> Ohh, that link is perfect, thanks.
[03:59] <zipper> dwidmann, lol, 3 reboots fixed it
[03:59] <dwidmann> zipper: hahaha
[04:00] <zipper> i can now see my shares again, horray
[04:02] <zipper> better start copying while i can... so i can change my windows partition
[04:08] <chuen> Hi. Can anyone give me a heas up on installing an app from a tar archive? I've checked and there are a couple of 'makefile.in' there in a couple of directories.
[04:09] <Jucato> !compile | chuen
[04:09] <chuen> I know how to unarchive it - just not sure of installation commands or scripts.
[04:09] <ubotu> chuen: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:10] <chuen> Jucato: Ah. That's what I meant :) BTW, happened upon your website the oether day.
[04:10] <Jucato> chuen: oh? hehe :)
[04:11] <chuen> Jucato: Gonna read it again - then make some mods to desktop etc.
[04:11] <Jucato> have fun tweaking your stuff :)
[04:12] <chuen> Jucato: Will do. ttyl.
[04:12] <eagles0513875> hey guys can anyone explain or help me with something
[04:13] <Jucato> genii: ey it slipped and spilled over me :/
[04:13] <eagles0513875> every time i log into world of warcraft it seems like its dropping frames in the game
[04:13] <eagles0513875> when i try and change the video settings it lock my entire system
[04:13] <eagles0513875> any ideas as how i can remedy that
[04:13] <genii> Jucato Next time I'll bring it over and gently set it down then ;)
[04:14] <koru> #exit
[04:14] <koru> eeek
[04:16] <zipper> eagles0513875, try using wine isntead of cedega. If you're using wine, try using cedega.
[04:16] <eagles0513875> i already am zip
[04:16] <eagles0513875> im to cheap to use cedega
[04:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[04:16] <ubuntu> if posibble i would need help,have trouble to get my nvidia driver working
[04:20] <zipper> virtual_mage, what exactly is your problem?
[04:21] <kiwi__> hey everyone
[04:21] <kiwi__> how do i download the newsgroups?
[04:21] <virtual_mage> did intall them whit envy,everything did go fine but when restart it dosent work
[04:22] <virtual_mage> it load in console mode,did try to edit the xorg.conf file to put back the old nv driver but there is nothing write in the xorg.conf
[04:25] <zipper> virtual_mage, dont know about envy, never used it
[04:26] <kiwi__> anyone?
[04:26] <zipper> kiwi__, well, you probably need a news reader. There are several, but two examples are thunderbird and evolution
[04:26] <kiwi__> kk
[04:27] <zipper> although i think kubuntu comes with a newsreader?
[04:27] <zipper> check under "internet"
[04:28] <kiwi__> ktorrent?
[04:28] <virtual_mage> well the part i dont get is even if i use sudo nano/etc/x11/xorg.conf  , there is nothing write in the files just like it did erease it all
[04:29] <eagles0513875> virtual_mage: do u have a backup xorg.config
[04:30] <rstanca> virtual_mage: try sudo nano/etc/X11/xorg.conf (case sensitive)
[04:30] <virtual_mage> unfortunatly not  its my first time on linux so ,i do kinda make mistake lol
[04:31] <rstanca> virtual_mage: sorry, typo, that`s sudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[04:31] <antony> salve a tutti
[04:31] <antony> chi mi risolve un quesito
[04:31] <eagles0513875> then there should be something in there if he made a typo
[04:31] <antony> che mi assilla da un po
[04:32] <eagles0513875> !it
[04:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:32] <rstanca> !it > antony
[04:32] <eagles0513875> !it | antony
[04:32] <ubotu> antony: please see above
[04:33] <alain_> hola!!!
[04:34] <eagles0513875> !es | alain_
[04:34] <ubotu> alain_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:35] <zipper> kiwi__, no, ktorrent is for torrents
[04:36] <zipper> kiwi__, you might be better off installing thunderbird... its somewhat similar to outlook
[04:36] <kiwi__> for newsgroups?
[04:36] <sep1318> anyone have an idea on a reason or a workaround for the broken adept-common update?
[04:37] <zipper> kiwi__, yeah... and/or email if you want
[04:37] <kiwi__> ok thnx
[04:37] <zipper> np
[04:39] <sep1318> anybody know anything about the broken adept-common update?
[04:40] <hugeta> hi every body, i want to upgrade my ubuntu to xubuntu 7.0 but idont know how
[04:42] <kiwi__> zipper: i would like to download something binary for newsgroups
[04:43] <kiwi__> cannot use email
[04:45] <hugeta> i have iso cd of xubuntu 7.0
[04:46] <Tm_T> hugeta: well, 7.04 is not even released, so it's unstable
[04:46] <Tm_T> and not supported
[04:46] <Tm_T> hugeta: but if you are sure you like to upgrade anyway, then
[04:47] <Tm_T> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[04:47] <Tm_T> but I repeat, it's unstable and not officially supported
[04:48] <zipper> kiwi__, installed thunderbird?
[04:49] <eeanm> hugeta: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[04:49] <eeanm> trash your iso, you won't need it
[04:49] <Tm_T> eeanm: hey, you like to repeat me?
[04:50] <eeanm> pfft
[04:50] <eeanm> yea
[04:50] <eeanm> sorry :)
[04:50] <Tm_T> )(
[04:50] <hugeta> thank a lot eeanm is very very helping me......
[04:50] <eeanm> haha
[04:51] <eeanm> Tm_T: I get the credit anyways :P
[04:51] <Tm_T> eeanm: sure you do, you're the young and attractive anyway
[04:51] <Tm_T> that reminds me how little girls ran away yesterday when they saw me =)
[04:53] <kiwi__> zipper:oh ok, i just got it, thought it was only for emails
[04:53] <chuen> Hi. I've been trying to install a new app. I've run 'configure' OK, but it looks like 'makefile' doesn't exist as 'make' is unable to find it. Looks like it hasn't been created. What should I do next?
[04:56] <chuen> Jucato: Can you rescue me? :)
[04:56] <Jucato> chuen: hm... I can try
[04:57] <hugeta> how to install dual boot  i want install xubuntu and windows xp sp2
[04:57] <chuen> Jucato: OK. Am I right in thinking that 'makefile' should have been produced?
[04:57] <Jucato> chuen: after a ./configure ? yep
[04:58] <chuen> Jucato: Does that happen during 'configure'
[04:58] <chuen> Jucato: OK.
[04:58] <Jucato> during/after
[04:58] <chuen> Jucato: What about maekfile.in and makefile.am
[04:58] <Jucato> chuen: hm... no not those, afaik...
[04:59] <chuen> OK. Thay are actually Makefile.in and Makefile.am to be precise.
[04:59] <Jucato> what's the problem?
[05:00] <hugeta> thank for adept its reeeaaaalllly working
[05:00] <chuen> 'make' cannot find anything to do! i.e. there is no 'makefile'.
[05:00] <emilio> hi need some help please
[05:01] <kuwanger> Any idea on why I'd be told by kaffeine that the dvd protocol is unknown?
[05:01] <Jucato> chuen: does configure end with "Good - now you can run make" or somethign?
[05:01] <Jucato> something*
[05:02] <chuen> Jucato: Mmm. No, it ends with checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:02] <Jucato> chuen: well then... it means configure wasn't able to finish and create a Makefile :D
[05:03] <Jucato> chuen: install xorg-dev
[05:03] <chuen> Jucato: Oh. OK.
[05:03] <eagles0513875> i just upgraded to feisty beta
[05:03] <eagles0513875> now i keep getting this msg and i cant update or download any pkgs E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:03] <eagles0513875> how do i fix this
[05:04] <grothesk_> Hi1
[05:04] <chuen> Jucato: Once it's installed. Should I run configure again?
[05:05] <eagles0513875> !feisty
[05:05] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:05] <Jucato> chuen: yesh
[05:05] <chuen> Jucato: OK, thx.
[05:09] <chuen> Jucato: I should have RTFM :) It requires qt which seems to now be 'qt3' - is that correct?
[05:11] <jarle> Anybody been able to compile nvidia drivers using Kubuntu Feisty?
[05:11] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: paste whole apt output to pastebin
[05:12] <lenscape_> !kermit
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kermit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <emilio> i have a problem with adept
[05:12] <lenscape_> anyone know a half-decent serial tty console?
[05:13] <emilio> seems to have 1 update y tell it to update but it dont do it
[05:13] <gabrieldain> is there a way to make KDE restore a sessions including open files, etc?
[05:13] <Yorokobi> lenscape, minicom maybe
[05:13] <lenscape_> emilio: what package is it saying needs updating?
[05:13] <eagles0513875> ok
[05:13] <grothesk_> emilio: Does adept_notifier show 1 Update, but apt-get update does not show an update?
[05:14] <eagles0513875> im backing up my data just incase i have to do fresh install
[05:14] <eagles0513875> Tm_T: im just going to do a fresh install
[05:14] <lenscape_> Yorokobi: thanks. I'll try it
[05:14] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: err ok
[05:15] <eagles0513875> i need to repartition anyway cuz i have to put windows back on
[05:15] <eagles0513875> which suxs balls
[05:15] <emilio> lenscape_: the package is adept-common
[05:15] <chuen> Jucato: Do you know what this indicates? :
[05:15] <chuen> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[05:15] <chuen> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[05:16] <emilio> lenscape_: i tell adept to apply updates it do some things but it still there
[05:16] <grothesk_> emilio: Same here.
[05:17] <emilio> grothesk_: any solution?
[05:17] <grothesk> emilio: No.
[05:17] <grothesk> I'm not even sure which package is ment by the une update being shown by adept_notifier.
[05:18] <grothesk> adept_updater and apt-get upgrade do not show any updates.
[05:18] <emilio> grothesk: i think is adept-common its the only one in my update list
[05:19] <grothesk> emilio: Where do you get this list?
[05:19] <grothesk> Mine is empty.
[05:19] <hugeta> guys if u want develope desktop app what do u used..
[05:19] <hugeta> ussually i used vb 60 wih sql server 2000
[05:20] <emilio> grothesk: i click on the adept notifier the put the password, then press the button to look for the updates there is my list
[05:21] <emilio> grothesk: package: adept-common state:upgradable requested: no changes i change this to upgrade
[05:22] <eagles0513875> whats the support like for 64 bit
[05:22] <Edulix> konsole: ERROR: can not execute ./linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[05:22] <jarle> hugeta: If you want to develop for KDE, C++ is the most used language
[05:22] <grothesk> emilio: This is empty.
[05:22] <Edulix> quake demo doesn't work in fesity
[05:22] <Edulix> !
[05:22] <jarle> hugeta: have a look at the kdevelop program..
[05:23] <eagles0513875> would there be a conflict if i put a 64 bit os on one partition and a 32 bit on another
[05:23] <hugeta> not yet im totaly new linux
[05:23] <Jucato> chuen: you have kdelibs4-dev installed?
[05:23] <Jucato> (sorry I was away)
[05:24] <hugeta> can java studio enterprise run in ubuntu
[05:24] <jarle> hugeta: http://www.kdevelop.org/
[05:24] <emilio> my real problem is to execute automatix2 it show that adept is running
[05:24] <Hobbsee> !automatix | emilio
[05:24] <ubotu> emilio: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:30] <fuel> is there some offline dictionary present for kde ?
[05:31] <fuel> !dictionaries
[05:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dictionaries - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Yorokobi> fuel, use adept or Synaptic and do a search for "dictionary"
[05:32] <hugeta> so java studio cant'n run in ubuntu
[05:32] <fuel> hugeta: why is that so >
[05:32] <fuel> ?
[05:32] <eagles0513875> does anyone around here work for ati lol
[05:32] <eagles0513875> !ati
[05:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:33] <hugeta> maybe i cant intall java studio IDE from adept
[05:34] <hugeta> fuel can u help me
[05:34] <fuel> hugeta: you wont get them through adept
[05:34] <fuel> why do you need java studio ? i am just curious
[05:34] <jaevel> hi all
[05:34] <Najaok> Hey there... Is there a paket which allows me to limit the upload and/or download speed of certain applications?
[05:35] <Yorokobi> hugeta, have you used eclipse? Its available for Linux and is found in the repositories
[05:35] <jaevel> anyone know how to enable the "choose desktop" at the login screen? i have gnome and kde installed but at the login screen it just askes for username and password? no option to change?
[05:35] <hugeta> i ussualy developt with java studio IDE. so if use ubuntu i just intall then i can work with java in ubuntu
[05:36] <fuel> hugeta: ok hugeta ,
[05:37] <fuel> have you installed sun-java ?
[05:37] <hugeta> yes
[05:37] <fuel> hugeta: go to sun website and download the studio.
[05:37] <hugeta> but in my windows system in another notebook
[05:37] <fuel> hugeta: do you want to install on kubuntu or windows ?
[05:38] <hugeta> but  i can't how install java studio in ubuntu.im totaly blind. i can run adep from linux guy in this chat he he he he
[05:39] <fuel> hugeta: ok , i am assuming that you want to install sun java studio on linux
[05:39] <hugeta> i want instal in kubuntu
[05:39] <hugeta> yes 100 % correct
[05:39] <fuel> hugeta: first open adept
[05:39] <fuel> hugeta:add the proper repositories
[05:39] <fuel> !repositores | hugeta
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositores - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <fuel> !repository | hugeta
[05:39] <ubotu> hugeta: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:41] <noaXess> hi all
[05:41] <noaXess> wasup on the net?
[05:41] <jaevel> hi
[05:41] <fuel> then install sun java from the repository and then tell me
[05:41] <noaXess> what need i to install to watch mpg's from a windows share?
[05:42] <hugeta> he he he he he i believe u .....it must be work
[05:43] <noaXess> !mpg
[05:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:43] <x_link> So
[05:44] <miki> hi
[05:44] <miki> my kubuntu works on gnome :
[05:44] <miki> wired
[05:45] <miki> how can o make KDE work ?
[05:45] <x_link> Install  it?
[05:45] <miki> installd
[05:45] <miki> but shows a few erors
[05:45] <miki> when i type start
[05:45] <x_link> Then restart X and at the loginprompt you go to Sessions and choose KDE.
[05:45] <miki> OH
[05:45] <kuwanger> Well, I've got at least some more DVD stuff to work with libdvdcss, but kaffeine still doesn't work with dvds for some reason. :/
[05:46] <miki> how do restart X ?
[05:46] <kubuntureign_> u can restart x by CTRL + ALT + Backspace
[05:46] <miki> cool 10x
[05:47] <miki> where can i lern about keyboard shortcuts ?
[05:47] <hugeta> what the meaning of display manager
[05:48] <x_link> I think I will install Kubuntu now, which version do you guys thik I should install?
[05:48] <noaXess> hm... i can't install the "Ubuntu restricted extras".. but have upgraded to feisty fawn 7.04..
[05:48] <aaroncampbell> I'm going to be making a shared storage area for all the windows boxes on our network.  Would it be good practice to make a new user, and share their home directory with everyone?
[05:48] <hugeta> fuel can u help me
[05:48] <hugeta> again
[05:48] <fuel> miki : alt+f2 ->kcontrol -> region and accessiblity->keyboard shortcuts
[05:48] <noaXess> x_link: 6.10
[05:48] <x_link> noaXess: Alright...
[05:48] <fuel> hugeta: did you install java ?
[05:48] <miki> 10x fuel
[05:48] <x_link> bbl when I'm done.
[05:48] <miki> !!
[05:49] <noaXess> x_link: and if you want test beta then upgradeing to feisty 7.04.. there are instructions on www.kubuntu.org
[05:49] <noaXess> its simmple to upgrade.. really good and cool upgrade tool....
[05:50] <hugeta> not yet i want upgrade to xubuntu 7 but in adep show warning only one dispaly manager ....etc
[05:50] <fuel> hugeta: first install java. then install xubuntu.
[05:51] <smile>  
[05:51] <smile> hi linuxians
[05:51] <hugeta> why i must "first install java."
[05:51] <kubuntureign_> hiya
[05:51] <smile> my problem is when i run Beryl i lose window decorators
[05:51] <smile> any help plz ?
[05:52] <kubuntureign_> humm
[05:52] <fuel> hugeta: coz you need to install sun studio ?
[05:52] <fuel> x(
[05:52] <kubuntureign_> i don't use beryl since will affect my gaming performance, sorry that i can't help on that matter :(
[05:52] <hugeta> ok i try now
[05:53] <hugeta> but i want a know about configuring display manager what does it mean....
[05:54] <tom_> cool
[05:54] <tom_> hi
[05:54] <wolferine> avi --> DVD, who has done it and is able to offer advise?
[05:54] <tom_> anyone
[05:55] <kubuntureign_> i did wolverine
[05:55] <chuen> Jucato: I 'll have to play with that compile problem another day.
[05:56] <kubuntureign_> basically u need tovid and kmediafactory
[05:56] <wolferine> kubuntureign_, what codecs do you use?
[05:56] <chuen> Jucato: Something about KDE headers not being installed.
[05:56] <wolferine> think I am having issues with ac3, which I beleive is just the audio, correct?
[05:56] <kubuntureign_> tovid will recongnize the proper codecs without further issues, this is not windows ;)
[05:57] <razor__> heh
[05:57] <wolferine> kubuntureign_, isnt ac3 the audio?
[05:57] <Jucato> chuen: hm... you missed my last question? did you install kdelibs4-dev ?
[05:57] <kubuntureign_> yes, indeed wolverine
[05:57] <wolferine> so can I just get an audio codec, then use kmedia?
[05:58] <kubuntureign_> i would suggest tovid
[05:58] <wolferine> k
[05:58] <wolferine> ill give it a look over
[05:58] <kubuntureign_> there is a how to made by me, let me dig the post
[05:58] <wolferine> oh, well if you did your own howto, I am sure you know a thing or two
[05:59] <wolferine> doesnt come up in synaptic, have to compile from src?
[05:59] <kubuntureign_> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3080915.0
[06:00] <kubuntureign_> check that out wolverine
[06:00] <kubuntureign_> :)
[06:00] <wolferine> yeah, so do I need the source and compile?
[06:00] <razor__> the nv driver i'm using doesn't allow me to set my resolution at 1280x1024?
[06:00] <wolferine> razor__, use nvidia instead
[06:00] <razor__> the nVidia drivers seem to crash often which is why i'm using nv
[06:01] <kubuntureign_> i rememebr that i installed tovid form adept
[06:01] <wolferine> razor__, if you go to the Ubuntu Guide, you can get the latest nvidia drivers (so a search for Nvidia, it will come up)
[06:01] <kubuntureign_> must be on the universal repos thou
[06:01] <wolferine> yeah, i must not have that repos
[06:01] <razor__> i just uninstalled them.
[06:01] <wolferine> razor__, the latest?
[06:02] <razor__> yes
[06:02] <razor__> well.. that supported FX 5200
[06:02] <wolferine> ok, did you run both nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings ?
[06:03] <razor__> yes, it set them up and crash.. then i tried to tweak it.. still crash
[06:03] <wolferine> ok, did you do the nvidia-settings as sudo ?
[06:03] <razor__> nv driver is stable but 1024x768 resolution is yuck
[06:03] <razor__> yes of course.
[06:03] <wolferine> and did it edit the xorg.conf?
[06:03] <razor__> yes
[06:03] <wolferine> hmmm
[06:03] <wolferine> post it on pastebin?
[06:04] <razor__> the nVidia xorg.conf?
[06:04] <razor__> or my current?
[06:04] <wolferine> the one causing the crashes
[06:04] <wolferine> if you have it
[06:06] <kubuntureign_> this is a how to to install the nvidia driver using a diff method from milone or automatix
[06:06] <kubuntureign_> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=11324.15
[06:06] <kubuntureign_> just look for the post written by MepisReign
[06:07] <razor__> #pastebin
[06:07] <razor__> heh
[06:07] <wolferine> how would I track down a repos that does offer tovid?
[06:07] <razor__> sorry baby is crying
[06:07] <razor__> i'll have to get back
[06:07] <razor__>  :(
[06:07] <wolferine> !pastebin | razor__
[06:07] <ubotu> razor__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:07] <kubuntureign_> let me check wolverine
[06:08] <wolferine> kubuntureign_, those your screen shots?
[06:08] <kubuntureign_> all you have to do wolverine is open adept and uncomment the restricted repos,
[06:08] <kubuntureign_> yes those are my screenshots
[06:08] <wolferine> im sure I have them, let me confirm
[06:08] <frojnd> I have one difficult question. How can I know what drivers are linked do xorg.conf, cause I've installed drivers from nvidia official web page, and than backup the xorg and after that I've installed nvidia-glx package. But I am not sure, that nvida-glx drivers are in used. So how can I check if there are nvida-glx drivers in use or drivers from nvidia web page ????
[06:09] <null__> hola
[06:09] <eagles0513875> !es null__
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about es null__ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <eagles0513875> !es | null__
[06:09] <ubotu> null__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:09] <null__> er?
[06:09] <wolferine> frojnd, look at the Ubuntu guide, look for updating the nvidia drivers
[06:09] <kubuntureign_> or the system is using the glx driver or the official driver it is impossible to use bith
[06:09] <kubuntureign_> both*
[06:09] <null__> im not spanish eagles0513875 :p
[06:10] <frojnd> wolferine: what do u mean with updating nvidia drivers, I just need to know which drivers are in use, from nvida-glx or from nvidia page ??
[06:10] <wolferine> frojnd, it helps you to update the latest drivers
[06:10] <wolferine> which I guess is NOT what your looking for
[06:10] <frojnd> ok I just did
[06:11] <frojnd> but that doesn't help if aren't nvidia-glx's drivers..
[06:11] <eagles0513875> lol sry null_
[06:11] <wolferine> deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:11] <wolferine> deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[06:11] <wolferine> not in those kubuntureign_
[06:12] <kubuntureign_> humm
[06:12] <kubuntureign_> let me check
[06:12] <kubuntureign_> brb
[06:13] <kubuntureign_> Medibuntu repos are the ones
[06:13] <kubuntureign_> u need to include the Medibuntu repos wolverine
[06:14] <|lostbyte|> huh, so is flash plugin 9 out in package ?
[06:14] <|lostbyte|> i want its codec for mplayer.
[06:14] <Yorokobi> wolferine, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php
[06:15] <ahlalo_elyon> Anyone having problems with the new KDE updates?
[06:15] <|lostbyte|> !flash9
[06:15] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:15] <|lostbyte|> !flash
[06:15] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <|lostbyte|> !backports
[06:16] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[06:16] <hugeta> fuel where r u
[06:16] <hendaus> somebody help me please
[06:17] <null_> ok
[06:17] <wolferine> hey kubuntureign_ can I pm for a sec?
[06:17] <limbo> i have a problem with the new kubuntu beta. its a red light where the minijack is suposed to be. So my headphones dost work but me internal seakers work. What shuld i do
[06:17] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, ask, some one would know.
[06:18] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  thanx but i am hearing a song and the voice is not too high,how can i make it very high
[06:18] <miki> hi
[06:18] <miki> linux rocks
[06:19] <kubuntureign_> sure wolverine, what do u need?
[06:19] <miki> :D
[06:19] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, On your panel there is a speaker icon. If not run "kmix".
[06:19] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  yes there is an icon
[06:19] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, use it to set all your volumes.
[06:20] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  i dont friend coz i am newbie
[06:21] <kubuntureign_> im getting blocked wolveribe
[06:21] <kubuntureign_> wolverine*
[06:21] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, right-click and show mixer window.
[06:21] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  ok then
[06:22] <|lostbyte|> Your Master and PCM use them to see what works for you.
[06:22] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  there are output input and switches
[06:22] <|lostbyte|> Under Output.
[06:23] <limbo> i have a problem with the new kubuntu beta. its a red light where the minijack is suposed to be. So my headphones dosnt work but me internal speakers work. What shuld i do
[06:23] <Yorokobi> limbo, click on the red light icon and switch it to green
[06:23] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  yes those set to maximiun
[06:23] <Yorokobi> limbo, red == muted
[06:23] <N6REJ> good morning all
[06:24] <vignesh> i am going to download the kubuntu vmware image.. If i install a package will it be persistent or do I have to install the package each time I use the vmware image ?
[06:24] <N6REJ> I have two issues early this morning.  #1, when I come back in the morning after the system having been "sleeping" at night, I have no sound, logging off and back on seems to restore this.  anyone have a reason why?
[06:25] <N6REJ> This did'nt happen before the last round of updates yesterday
[06:25] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  on windows when i make configure the sound ac97 there is an option 20+ boost that make the volume very high
[06:25] <|lostbyte|> huh..
[06:25] <N6REJ> #2 is that my webcam doesn't seem to have video.
[06:26] <[pyro] > hey guys, anyone know why my installer keeps crashing on xfonts-75dpi ? I have run cd-checker to make sure the cd is ok, and it is. But for some reason the cd gets read errors on this particular file?
[06:26] <vignesh> anyone knows ?
[06:26] <[pyro] > im using the alternate cd
[06:26] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, There is a mic boost. but didt see an app lifer option
[06:26] <|lostbyte|> BRB..
[06:26] <vignesh> anyone used the kubuntu vmware image ?
[06:26] <N6REJ> [pyro] : do a md5 test on your cd.  you may have gotten a bad burn.
[06:26] <|lostbyte|> Also make sure the player your using also has its sound on maximum..
[06:27] <[pyro] > N6REJ: how do i do the MD5 test?
[06:27] <N6REJ> !md5
[06:27] <ubotu> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[06:27] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  yes i see it on switches but there is no light
[06:27] <[pyro] > cheers :)
[06:27] <N6REJ> :D
[06:27] <luckyone> can anyone help with this post - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2406299#post2406299
[06:27] <smile> i have windows installed and ubuntu .. how use VMware to run Win under ubuntu ??
[06:28] <vignesh> smile: why don`t u use the vmware image of ubuntu and run it ubuntu on windows ?
[06:28] <vignesh> u need the vmware server package.. install that
[06:28] <N6REJ> luckyone: have you verifed that that card works with linux?
[06:29] <smile> vmware server or client ?
[06:29] <luckyone> it is a WMP54g
[06:29] <vignesh> vmware server..
[06:29] <N6REJ> !hardware | luckyone
[06:29] <ubotu> luckyone: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:29] <smile> vignesh: without ubuntu image ?
[06:29] <luckyone> N6REJ: yes, it is on the list of supported devices, supposed to work 'out of the box'
[06:30] <vignesh> smile: I am saying about windows on ubuntu
[06:30] <N6REJ> luckyone: ok, then I would try fiesty first.  It solved alot of issues for me.
[06:30] <smile> vignesh: can i install VMware by apt-get ?
[06:30] <vignesh> i don`t know..
[06:30] <[pyro] > N6REJ: would this pick up errors that the standard cd-checker wont?
[06:30] <luckyone> N6REJ: fiesty is pretty stable for you then? perhaps I will upgrade tonight
[06:30] <vignesh> Download the .tar from vmware.com
[06:30] <smile> vignesh: ok .. thx
[06:30] <miki> !hardware | edgy
[06:30] <ubotu> edgy: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:31] <vignesh> smile: np
[06:31] <N6REJ> [pyro] : I don't know that answer sorry.
[06:31] <[pyro] > N6REJ: im thinking ill just burn another cd and try it
[06:31] <hendaus> |lostbyte|,  thanx friend :)
[06:31] <vignesh> smile:  have u used the vmware image ?
[06:31] <N6REJ> luckyone: there are a few quirks, but there were over 123 upgrades over the last 2 days.  USB devices didn't work for the most part in edgy, they do now.
[06:31] <smile> vignesh: no
[06:32] <vignesh> ok..
[06:32] <N6REJ> [pyro] : your image may be bad, best to test that first.  Make sure you got a good dl.
[06:34] <[pyro] > N6REJ: the cd i made that im having problems with i long ago deleted the .iso file. I have since downloaded a new one and thats what im burning
[06:34] <N6REJ> [pyro] : you should run the md5 against that new iso to be sure its ok.  Thats the only way of knowing wether or not you got all of the bits you need.
[06:35] <[pyro] > N6REJ ok will do
[06:38] <llutz> hi
[06:44] <[pyro] > N6REJ: yeah the iso checks out ok. I have just burnt another copy of the cd and verified it, it too is ok. Ill try an install with this one
[06:44] <N6REJ> gl
[06:45] <dromer> hi all, can somebody tell me if/how I can start an application as another user?
[06:46] <dromer> I mean, when I don't know the pw of the user, but as root or sudo
[06:46] <llutz> dromer: su
[06:46] <dromer> ok, just su <user> ?
[06:47] <llutz> dromer: man su
[06:47] <dromer> yeah I was looking :)
[06:47] <dromer> didn't know it uses su for that
[06:48] <dromer> ok, hmm, I can't resume the screen of another user though ..
[06:49] <smile> can I find a hacker here ?
[06:49] <dromer> you are a hacker
[06:50] <smile> dromer: a small hacker
[06:50] <smile> dromer: :-)
[06:50] <dromer> a damn small hacker ;)
[06:50] <smile> dromer: damn ?? why !?
[06:50] <dromer> search damn small linux
[06:51] <smile> dromer: in google ?
[06:52] <dromer> sure, w/e searchengine you like
[06:52] <crazy_penguin> Hi all!
[06:54] <smile> dromer: i found it .. and ?
[06:54] <dromer> hence the damn
[06:54] <llutz> smile: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html   ;)
[06:55] <dromer> llutz: DSL wasn't even far off considering the newest revisions ;)
[06:56] <PhinnFort> dromer: you got it wrong, it's LSD
[06:56] <dromer> hehe
[06:56] <dromer> Linux Small Damn?
[06:56] <llutz> ".... lucy in the sky ..."
[06:56] <PhinnFort> it's french
[06:56] <dromer> haha
[06:56] <TFrog> anyone here have the proprietary ATI drivers loaded on a laptop here?
[06:56] <PhinnFort> Linx Smll Dmn
[06:57] <dromer> lol
[06:57] <PhinnFort> i have been wondering about partitioning my ipod to make space for DSL
[06:58] <PhinnFort> since it doesn't look like I will have IpodLinux on it
[06:58] <PhinnFort> darn apple and their fancy encrypted firmware
[06:58] <aaroncampbell> I'm trying to user samba to create 2 shares.  One that EVERYONE can access...with no authentication required (like what happens with security=shared), and one that requires a username/pass (or requires you to be on a certain IP, or something)
[06:58] <aaroncampbell> However, unless I set security to share, I can't seem to share without requiring auth.  And if I set it to share, I can't seem to limit one of the shares
[06:59] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: and it doesn't work?
[06:59] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: do you use the graphical interfaces or manual editing of the config files?
[06:59] <dromer> < PhinnFort> i have been wondering about partitioning my ipod to make  space for DSL << hahaha
[06:59] <PhinnFort> dromer: it already has like 3 different partitions;)
[06:59] <dromer> :)
[06:59] <PhinnFort> i dunno how the bootloader handles it if i partition it myself, though
[07:00] <dromer> though portable music would be nice :( (sony mp3 discman has been dead for at least 2 years)
[07:00] <PhinnFort> dromer: it isn't bad, and it works like a charm with kubuntu, but I would very much like to play my oggs
[07:00] <aaroncampbell> PhinnFort: manual edit
[07:01] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: have you looked here?: http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/
[07:01] <dromer> PhinnFort: yeah I'd get a MP3/ogg-player (though I don't have any ogg yet, filesharing doesn't really permit it .. (can't share any ogg on the dc++-hub I'm on)
[07:01] <PhinnFort> dromer: too bad, since OGG is superior;)
[07:02] <PhinnFort> i've ripped my whole CD collection to oggs
[07:02] <PhinnFort> dromer: you could just rename the files to ".mp3", and as long as they have the ogg codecs, they shouldn't notice anything;)
[07:02] <dromer> ok, so I'm trying to open the screen of a friend of mine that's running irssi on my box, but when I sudo su <user> (I also tried with the -l flag) I get: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.
[07:02] <smile> hacking is not always bad if it's used with a clean mind !! what u think ?
[07:02] <aaroncampbell> PhinnFort: yes sir, I've been through HUGE portions of that...but it seems I can still only get it to do one or the other.
[07:02] <PhinnFort> maybe windows media player pops up a warning, but it should play
[07:03] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: it's a long time since I've played with Samba
[07:03] <dromer> PhinnFort: lol, I don't think onyone has ogg-codecs on a default install ;) though if they have some codec-pack ..
[07:03] <PhinnFort> dromer: K-lite comes with, afaik
[07:03] <dromer> smile: what do you want to do? just ask around for the problem :)
[07:04] <dromer> sure, go offline why don't ya :P
[07:05] <PhinnFort> sorry, yakuake just killed my Xorg
[07:05] <PhinnFort> darn aiglx
[07:05] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: can you post your current samba config?
[07:05] <dromer> hehe
[07:05] <dromer> PhinnFort: don't run irc in x ;)
[07:05] <PhinnFort> dromer: :P
[07:05] <PhinnFort> dromer: <3 Konversation
[07:05] <aaroncampbell> PhinnFort: smb.conf: http://paste-bin.com/11345
[07:05] <dromer> PhinnFort: irssi <3
[07:05] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:05] <dromer> screen \m/
[07:06] <aaroncampbell> PhinnFort: testparm -v: http://paste-bin.com/11346
[07:06] <dromer> so, anyone on my 'su'-problem?
[07:06] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: darn that config file was detailed;)
[07:07] <dromer> !su
[07:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:07] <smile> dromer: i just want make a safe website .. so i must try to hack my website ;-)
[07:07] <dromer> smile: ah, yeah I'd like that to be done on my server as well soon
[07:07] <smile> dromer: ur server ?
[07:07] <PhinnFort> dromer: what's your problem?
[07:07] <Yorokobi> smile, http://owasp.org/ is a good place for website hacking tools
[07:07] <dromer> get someone to probe for weaknesses, which I don't have the skills for atm
[07:07] <PhinnFort> smile: should I root your server for you?;)
[07:07] <PhinnFort> use nessus
[07:08] <PhinnFort> !nessus
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nessus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <dromer> PhinnFort: c/p ;  < dromer> ok, so I'm trying to open the screen of a friend of mine
[07:08] <dromer>                    that's running irssi on my box, but when I sudo su <user> (I
[07:08] <dromer>                    also tried with the -l flag) I get: Cannot open your
[07:08] <PhinnFort> !info nessus
[07:08] <ubotu> nessus: Remote network security auditor, the client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.8-1 (edgy), package size 216 kB, installed size 572 kB
[07:08] <dromer>                    terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.
[07:08] <dromer> oeps, sorry sory for paste :$
[07:08] <PhinnFort> dromer: sudo -s
[07:08] <PhinnFort> mkay?
[07:09] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: first, if you don't need it, i would make a simple as possible config file
[07:09] <wolferine> aaroncampbell, you in CND?
[07:09] <aaroncampbell> wolferine: CND?
[07:09] <tomboy> yo
[07:09] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_Samba#Configuration_2
[07:09] <smile> dromer: nice website !! but for what exactly ?
[07:10] <dromer> smile: what? on this ip? ohw for a friend, but I'm also runnig some other stuff on ssl that't I need ultra-super-secure
[07:10] <Yorokobi> Mr. Garriso--er, PhinnFort :) I think dromer is trying to switch to another unprivileged user. The command to do that is 'sudo su - otheruser'
[07:11] <dromer> friend past away last year, kind of an electronic-memorial I'm trying to give him eternal cyber-life ;)
[07:11] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: if what he does doesn't work, he should sudo -s to root first, then drop to another user
[07:11] <dromer> Yorokobi: I've tried this already, but then I get: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/6' - please check.  when I try to open the screen this user is running
[07:11] <PhinnFort> was my idea
[07:11] <smile> dromer: ok .. that's nice . maybe i will need ya when i finish my website
[07:11] <dromer> PhinnFort: nop, same error
[07:12] <dromer> smile: what would you need me for? :P I can't probe for weaknesses :$
[07:12] <Yorokobi> dromer, you have a bigger problem then. What does 'ls /dev/pts/' return? Is there a 6?
[07:12] <PhinnFort> smile: if you want to probe for weaknesses, use some automated tool like Nessus
[07:12] <freexqf> i can't find the deb package for htmerge and htsearch
[07:12] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: ls -l /dev/pts/6
[07:12] <freexqf> does anybody knows where i can find them?
[07:12] <PhinnFort> i mean dromer
[07:12] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:13] <dromer> nessus?
[07:13] <dromer> ah, ha, ls ..
[07:13] <PhinnFort> dromer: ls -l /dev/pts/6
[07:13] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:13] <PhinnFort> check the permissions
[07:13] <dromer> ok, yeah .. hmm, seems to be my regular user ..
[07:13] <wolferine> aaroncampbell, canadian...?
[07:13] <dromer> crw--w---- 1 dreamer tty 136, 6 2007-04-05 19:13 /dev/pts/6
[07:13] <aaroncampbell> wolferine: nope
[07:14] <wolferine> i realize that, since you didnt know what CND was :P
[07:14] <PhinnFort> dromer: you logged on as dreamer now?
[07:15] <dromer> PhinnFort: no as root
[07:15] <dromer> I'll check using dreamer ..
[07:16] <dromer> PhinnFort: same output
[07:16] <PhinnFort> hrm
[07:17] <PhinnFort> dromer: ls -l /dev/pts | wc -l
[07:18] <dromer> er: 8
[07:18] <PhinnFort> 7 open then
[07:18] <dromer> what do you mean?
[07:18] <dromer> what does | wc -l do?
[07:19] <PhinnFort> dromer: it counts lines
[07:19] <PhinnFort> dromer: i have two, my desktop session and my yakuake session
[07:19] <PhinnFort> i guess;)
[07:19] <dromer> er, sorry, I don't follow
[07:19] <PhinnFort> dromer: ls -l /dev/pts
[07:19] <PhinnFort> what users own them?
[07:19] <dromer> how many sessions there are? (what kind of session?
[07:19] <Yorokobi> 'ls -l /dev/pts | grep -c -' returns one less than wc -l
[07:20] <Yorokobi> dromer, 'w' or 'who' will show you all your TTY sessions
[07:20] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: it only shows who is logged on, afaik
[07:20] <PhinnFort> i have several(2) sessions under the same user
[07:21] <dromer> PhinnFort: 4 by me, and 1 each by 3 other users
[07:21] <dromer> !tty
[07:21] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[07:21] <PhinnFort> dromer: terminal thingies
[07:21] <dromer> ah
[07:21] <PhinnFort> when I log into KDE, i start another session
[07:21] <Yorokobi> TTY : Teletype
[07:21] <dromer> I have 3 open atm .. hmm .. apperantly another one somewhere ..
[07:21] <PhinnFort> when Konsole (/yakuake) opens up, it starts another tty session
[07:22] <PhinnFort> dromer: and it seems like you aren't allowed to open number 6
[07:22] <dromer> I have 3 consoles open atm, and gaim
[07:22] <dromer> perhaps since I'm running irssi in a screen? that's another TTY?
[07:22] <PhinnFort> dromer: 3 consoles + 1 desktop = 4
[07:22] <dromer> PhinnFort: I'm running #6 myself ... crw--w---- 1 dreamer tty 136, 6 2007-04-05 19:20 6
[07:23] <dromer> PhinnFort: X is a TTY by itself too ?
[07:23] <PhinnFort> dromer: i think it opens up one for communicating with the system or something
[07:23] <PhinnFort> but I really don't know enough about this;)
[07:23] <dromer> oxk, but .. so .. hmm, why can't I open the screen of the other user?
[07:24] <mzanfardino> alright, has anyone else had trouble with the latest update for adept-common?
[07:24] <PhinnFort> dromer: try ctrl+alt+f1 and login there and try
[07:24] <Photon> hi all
[07:24] <Photon> wats up
[07:24] <PhinnFort> Photon: the world is coming to an end
[07:24] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: i'll upgrade now and see what happens
[07:24] <PhinnFort> feisty?
[07:24] <Yorokobi> dromer, in Konsole use Ctrl-Shift-N to open a new tab and try sudo su - otheruser again
[07:24] <dromer> PhinnFort: wtf, can't  ctrl+alt+f1
[07:24] <Photon> i learned that u have to use linux for 3-5 days to learn and get used to it :D
[07:25] <mzanfardino> PhinnFort: edgy
[07:25] <Photon> hello world
[07:25] <dromer> Yorokobi: I don't have console on that machine, but BlackBox
[07:25] <PhinnFort> dromer: it should switch out of xorg
[07:25] <Photon> PhinnFort: loool
[07:25] <PhinnFort> !hi | Photon
[07:25] <ubotu> Photon: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:25] <dromer> Photon: yup, about that time ;)
[07:25] <Yorokobi> dromer, Eterm then?
[07:25] <Yorokobi> dromer, or xterm?
[07:25] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: then, sorry;)
[07:25] <dromer> Yorokobi: yeah xterm ;)
[07:25] <Photon> yo WATS up everyone?
[07:26] <Yorokobi> dromer, open a new xterm (which will create a new /dev/pts/X) and try it
[07:26] <mzanfardino> PhinnFort: maybe it's time I upgraded to Feisty.  Can you direct me to a site that will instruct me on the steps to upgrade an existing install?
[07:26] <PhinnFort> !repeat | photon
[07:26] <ubotu> photon: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:26] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: please see the topic
[07:26] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[07:26] <dromer> Yorokobi: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/9' - please check. and 9 is my regular user again
[07:26] <mzanfardino> PhinnFort: thank you
[07:26] <Photon> lol
[07:27] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: no problem
[07:27] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: be aware of breakages, though;)
[07:27] <Yorokobi> dromer, okay ... that's odd. Have you tried google'ing the error?
[07:27] <dromer> not yet, will do!
[07:27] <PhinnFort> !google Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts
[07:28] <PhinnFort> Photon: ;)
[07:28] <PhinnFort> Photon: nothing is "up"
[07:28] <PhinnFort> it's some holiday
[07:28] <mzanfardino> PhinnFort: well, given that my printer is no longer working, my adept-common won't update, and when I run an app in WINE my desktop reboots, all of which started happening after I applied the latest edgy update, I guess things can't get much worse...
[07:29] <Photon> PhinnFort: so how are you today?
[07:29] <mzanfardino> PhinnFort: unless of course you can tell me how to back out of the last update I performed today?  That might at least return me to a stable platform...
[07:29] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: ;)
[07:29] <PhinnFort> Photon: i'm rather okay
[07:29] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: troublesome
[07:29] <mzanfardino> PhinnFort: I was afraid of that.
[07:30] <PhinnFort> mzanfardino: i'm not used enough to the debian/ubuntu way of managing packages to guide you safely through it either
[07:30] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:30] <Yorokobi> mzanfardino, do you remember which packages were updated?
[07:30] <PhinnFort> but feisty is rather stable, at least here
[07:30] <jarle> Anybody able to recompile nvidia drivers under Feisty?
[07:30] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: not exactly, but they were all adept- related.
[07:30] <[pyro] > N6REJ: ok the install of the packages went through ok this time. The first cd i was trying must have been a bad iso/burn. Now im having problems installing GRUB on the hd0 (or /dev/hda) mba. syslog says "/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly".
[07:30] <Yorokobi> mzanfardino, do you have synaptic installed?
[07:31] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: checking
[07:31] <N6REJ> [pyro] : how did you configure your HD?
[07:31] <[pyro] > N6REJ: this system is installed on 6 drives in a raid 5 config
[07:31] <frank_> anyone know how to install keyboard layouts?
[07:31] <N6REJ> OH
[07:31] <[pyro] > 6 x 40Gb drives
[07:32] <Yorokobi> [pyro] , sata or scsi ?
[07:32] <N6REJ> [pyro] : thats beyond me bud, but I would think you would want a "/boot" parition of around 150mb on one of the drives and make that bootable.
[07:32] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: do now (didn't a moment ago)
[07:32] <[pyro] > Yorokobi: neither, they're just 6 ide drives :)
[07:32] <[pyro] > Yorokobi: ata100's i think
[07:32] <firsm> Hi
[07:33] <Yorokobi> mzanfardino, in synaptic, search for "adept", highlight the package you want to roll back and use Ctrl-E to bring up a list of the older releases.
[07:33] <PhinnFort> !hi | firsm
[07:33] <ubotu> firsm: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:33] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: did you manage to sort it out?
[07:33] <aaroncampbell> nope
[07:33] <firsm> I'm wondering where to set hotkeys for my keyboard for KDE, some hotkeys seem to work out of the box (like the calc key launches speedcrunch) but I can't find the place to set that stuff up, any idea?
[07:33] <x_link> Damn it
[07:33] <[pyro] > N6REJ: :( thanks for your help anyways :)
[07:33] <aaroncampbell> still working at it, but I can't seem to do both
[07:34] <Yorokobi> !grub | [pyro] 
[07:34] <ubotu> [pyro] : grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:34] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: bothwhich?
[07:34] <x_link> I just installed Kubuntu 6.10, but during the installation I couldn't choose root password, so when the installation was done I couldn't do anything.
[07:34] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: have you tried cleaning out your conf?
[07:34] <x_link> Why is it like this+
[07:34] <x_link> ?
[07:34] <N6REJ> [pyro] : least i'm honest :D
[07:34] <aaroncampbell> PhinnFort: yep
[07:34] <N6REJ> Yorokobi: wouldn't he need a boot partition with that config?
[07:34] <jhutchins> !root | x_link
[07:34] <ubotu> x_link: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:34] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: ok, working
[07:34] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: on it
[07:34] <frank_> x_link: you just need to use your ordinairy pw
[07:34] <x_link> ubotu: I can't run sudo either.
[07:34] <jhutchins> !kdesu | x_link
[07:34] <ubotu> x_link: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[07:34] <[pyro] > N6REJ: googling the error now, i think i may have found something
[07:35] <firsm> x_link: just provide your user's password
[07:35] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I want 2 samba shares.  One that everyone can access, with no need for auth (like security=share), and one that only I can access (limited with user/pass OR IP, or whatever we can come up with)
[07:35] <frank_> anyone know how to install keyboard layouts?
[07:35] <PhinnFort> !languages
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <Yorokobi> N6REJ, a separate /boot partition? Not really. It makes it safer to have one, though.
[07:35] <x_link> I tried with my normal account pass, didnt work.
[07:35] <PhinnFort> !keyboard
[07:35] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: You need to set up guest access then.  It's a bogus user.
[07:35] <x_link> Sudo didn't work either.
[07:35] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[07:35] <PhinnFort> x_link: what isn't working?
[07:35] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I've been trying...I just can't seem to get it right
[07:35] <x_link> The password.
[07:35] <jhutchins> !keyboard | frank_
[07:35] <ubotu> frank_: please see above
[07:36] <frank_> PhinnFort: thanks
[07:36] <N6REJ> Yorokobi: oh, well, I'm remembering when we at first had to when any root partition was not in the first 1024 sectors.
[07:36] <x_link> With Debian I had to choose root password during the installation.
[07:36] <PhinnFort> frank_: yw;)
[07:36] <[pyro] > N6REJ: check this out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/95990
[07:36] <PhinnFort> x_link: that's insecure
[07:36] <[pyro] > N6REJ: the bottom entry
[07:36] <jhutchins> x_link: We're trying to tell you, ubuntu's different.  Please read the page above about sudo.
[07:36] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: I'm getting an error telling me I have held broken packages.
[07:36] <[pyro] > N6REJ: i only have a 3 partitions on each drive. Being /, swap and /home
[07:36] <x_link> jhutchins: Ubuntu?
[07:36] <[pyro] > N6REJ: no /boot at all
[07:37] <Yorokobi> N6REJ, I consider splitting /boot, /home, /var, and /tmp into separate partitions as a "Best Practice" for Linux :)
[07:37] <jhutchins> x_link: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, edubuntu all share the same base system, just different desktops/overlays/packages.
[07:37] <N6REJ> pyro, I would make one small /boot partition. ( cc Yorokobi )
[07:37] <x_link> jhutchins: Which site do you mean?
[07:37] <frank_> PhinnFort: my xorg.conf is set up like that.. still the same wrong layout
[07:37] <hendaus> helpers if i want to creat a file into /home/ed2k.protocol, it says Access denied
[07:37] <x_link> jhutchins: I use Debian.. never used Ubuntu  ;D
[07:37] <jhutchins> !root | x_link
[07:37] <ubotu> x_link: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:37] <Photon> k i gtg cya all
[07:37] <Photon> bye
[07:37] <PhinnFort> frank_: looked in the KDE Control Center?
[07:38] <PhinnFort> frank_: alt+f2 "kcontrol"
[07:38] <PhinnFort> Photon: bye
[07:38] <frank_> PhinnFort: i dont have any layouts available..
[07:38] <[pyro] > N6REJ / Yorokobi: did you see the entry saying they took away /boot and grub installed properly?
[07:38] <N6REJ> [pyro] : I have a boot partition and fiesty and have no problems.
[07:38] <PhinnFort> frank_: then i don't know
[07:38] <PhinnFort> sorry
[07:39] <N6REJ> you stated you DIDn't have a boot and it didn't work.
[07:39] <Yorokobi> !pastebin | mzanfardino
[07:39] <ubotu> mzanfardino: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:39] <dnordenberg> Hi. I have two ethernet adapters in feisty and I cant change one of them to manual ip :( I just screams about invalid gateway ip but I don't have a default gateway for the LAN adapter, this machine is supposed to be the gatway
[07:39] <Yorokobi> mzanfardino, can you paste the error to ^^^
[07:39] <hendaus> helpers if i want to creat a file into /home/ed2k.protocol, it says Access denied,what can i do?????/
[07:39] <dnordenberg> Even if I do set a default gw, it still sais it is invalid :(
[07:40] <dnordenberg> ip 192.168.6.1, gw 192.168.6.3, whats invalid with that?
[07:40] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: do you have any tips on HOW to make a guest account for samba that will help me achieve my goal?
[07:40] <cwillu> how do you resize a second panel?  when I add it, the config option on it only affects the first panel
[07:41] <[pyro] > N6REJ: yeah i have not had /boot partitions before and its been fine. I think there were problems with lilo as it wasnt able to read as far into the disk as grub, but ive never had this problem with grub before. I'll try doign the whole install again, but my gut feeling is its something to do with the raid5
[07:41] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: this is quickly hacked together, please try it: http://rafb.net/p/60W44f47.html
[07:41] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: working it out now.  Apparently there is a dependancy with python-kde3.  Looking to see what the issue is.
[07:41] <PhinnFort> aaroncampbell: use smbpasswd to add users
[07:41] <Yorokobi> mzanfardino, you may need to roll that back as well
[07:41] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: I really don't, I dive deep into samba every once in a while when I'm setting up a new system, then pretty much forget most of it.  I haven't done guest, only domain accounts.  The docs are in the config comments and in the help links in swat.
[07:41] <N6REJ> [pyro] : maybe, but I'd still bet if you took one tiny partition of 150mb and made it /boot and made it "bootable" you'd be fine.
[07:42] <N6REJ> !raid | [pyro] 
[07:42] <ubotu> [pyro] : Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:42] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: yeah, thanks.  I never got swat to work :|
[07:42] <soulrider> !rip
[07:42] <jhutchins> http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch06_02.html
[07:42] <ubotu> To rip an Audio CD in KDE, put it in and then put audiocd:// in the Konqueror URL bar; it's configurable in system settings. Also see http://tinyurl.com/2x7qsh
[07:42] <kj0ttdeig> is it possible to make xubuntu use the screen resolution 1280x1024? everywhere i check, 1024x768 is the maximum, and editing xorg.conf doesn't help
[07:42] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/chapter/book/ch06_02.html
[07:43] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: You need swat, it does syntax sanity checking.
[07:43] <mzanfardino> Yorokobi: I'm rolling them all back one by one to see which one was causing the previous error...
[07:43] <N6REJ> kj0ttdeig: its a limitation of your video card settings, I'm using 1280x1024 np.
[07:43] <kj0ttdeig> however, kubuntu and ubuntu handles 1280x1024 very well, but xubuntu doesn't
[07:43] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I installed swat through adept...it says it's installed, but localhost:901 goes nowhere
[07:43] <soulrider> aaroncampbell: is it running? :P
[07:43] <kj0ttdeig> kubuntu and ubuntu on the very same hardware*
[07:43] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Maybe you need to start it?
[07:43] <N6REJ> kj0ttdeig: sorry didn't read that right, try here #xubuntu
[07:44] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, or specify https://
[07:44] <aaroncampbell> soulrider or jhutchins: how?
[07:44] <jhutchins> kj0ttdeig: #xfce
[07:44] <N6REJ> kj0ttdeig: or #xfce
[07:44] <Yorokobi> aaroncampbell, or plain http://
[07:44] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:44] <N6REJ> gmta jhutchins
[07:44] <soulrider> aaroncampbell: type swat in a console
[07:44] <[pyro] > N6REJ: cheers, ill check up on it and try a /boot partition as well
[07:44] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: I used http...tried s...no help
[07:44] <zorglu_> q. i run edgy and  2.6.17-11-generic kernel, how can i get the kernel -headers, apt-cache search only give me kernel header for 2.4 ?
[07:44] <N6REJ> [pyro] : cc
[07:45] <firsm> Anybody know the command for the KDE screensaver?
[07:45] <jhutchins> !repos | zorglu_
[07:45] <ubotu> zorglu_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:45] <PhinnFort> firsm: try kdesktop_lock, i think
[07:45] <soulrider> hey N6REJ, whats up ?
[07:45] <aaroncampbell> soulrider: leaves me on a blank line, and still nothing in the web browser
[07:45] <zorglu_> jhutchins: cool, but what is the package name for hte kernel headers ?
[07:45] <firsm> PhinnFort: Excellent, thanks.
[07:45] <zorglu_> !info kernel-headers
[07:45] <ubotu> Package kernel-headers does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:46] <PhinnFort> firsm: yw;)
[07:46] <PhinnFort> !info headers
[07:46] <soulrider> !info swat
[07:46] <jhutchins> zorglu_: Sorry, dunno.
[07:46] <ubotu> Package headers does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:46] <ubotu> swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu4.1 (edgy), package size 739 kB, installed size 2052 kB
[07:46] <jhutchins> !compile | zorglu_
[07:46] <ubotu> zorglu_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:46] <Yorokobi> !info linux-headers
[07:46] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:46] <zorglu_> hehe i want to compile a module ! :)
[07:46] <jhutchins> zorglu_: That should tell you what you need.
[07:46] <PhinnFort> linux-headers-2.6.20-14
[07:46] <zorglu_> linux! :)
[07:46] <zorglu_> ] thanks :)
[07:47] <PhinnFort> !info linux-headers feisty
[07:47] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in feisty
[07:47] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: Pretty common in binary linux that the version number is part of the package name for the kernel.
[07:47] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: You usually  don't "upgrade" a binary kernel, you install it in parallell.
[07:48] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: i also have a package locally that's named "linux-headers"
[07:48] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: metapackage.
[07:48] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: i know, and it bothers me, because my /boot is really small
[07:48] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:48] <zorglu_> !info linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic
[07:48] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: No harm in removing old kernels if the new one works for you.
[07:48] <ubotu> linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic: Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.1-11.35 (edgy), package size 893 kB, installed size 24104 kB
[07:48] <zorglu_> this is the one i was looking for :)
[07:48] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: just a pita
[07:49] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: Necessary safety feature.
[07:49] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: still a pita;)
[07:49] <zorglu_> now upgrading pwc driver :)
[07:49] <jhutchins> jarle: Feisty is #ubuntu+1 still.
[07:49] <PhinnFort> safety be darned
[07:49] <CarinArr> !feisty | jarle
[07:49] <ubotu> jarle: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:50] <jhutchins> PhinnFort: Tell me that when you've installed a non-bootable kernel.
[07:50] <aaroncampbell> soulrider or jhutchins: I still can't seem to get swat running.  If I try to execute swat from a prompt, I just get my cursor on a blank line, and I still can't access localhost:901
[07:50] <PhinnFort> jhutchins: did that once, in gentoo
[07:50] <PhinnFort> thank $DEITY for livecds;)
[07:51] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Perhaps you need to sudo /etc/init.d/swat start?
[07:51] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: That or it starts as part of samba.
[07:51] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: I do not have a *ubntu samba system here.
[07:51] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: there is no swat in my init.d dir, and samba is running
[07:52] <zorglu_> wow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam is excelent tutorial, in 20sec i could upgrade the pwc driver which is broken on edgy :)
[07:54] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: See if this helps: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=467179
[07:59] <cwillu> how do I change the width of more than one panel in kde?
[08:00] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: thanks, it looks like I need inetd, but it's not available in the repos
[08:00] <aaroncampbell> !inetd
[08:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <TheJman> yo
[08:01] <wolferine> um
[08:01] <wolferine> yo?
[08:01] <wolferine> :)
[08:01] <dragonkh> hello
[08:02] <PhinnFort> !hi | dragonkh
[08:02] <ubotu> dragonkh: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:02] <dragonkh> hello PhinnFort
[08:02] <cwillu> is kde broken in general, or is it just feisty?
[08:02] <PhinnFort> hello
[08:02] <hendaus> friends sudo mkdir /home/ed2k.protocol , now how can i delete the folder?
[08:03] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:03] <cwillu> :/
[08:03] <PhinnFort> cwillu: do you have a problem?
[08:03] <PhinnFort> hendaus: sudo rm -fdr /home/ed2k.protocol should kill it
[08:04] <cwillu> PhinnFort: I can't seem to set the properties for any panel other than the first one, and system settings insists on resizing itself to slightly bigger than my main display
[08:04] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  thanx
[08:04] <PhinnFort> cwillu: System Settings isn't KDE, it's Kubuntu
[08:04] <cwillu> one and the same to me right now :p
[08:04] <PhinnFort> cwillu: use KControl instead, it's much better, imho
[08:04] <lontra> cwillu: kcontrol
[08:04] <cwillu> anyways, it's the panel thing that's got me uptight
[08:04] <cwillu> but I'll install kcontrol
[08:04] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  if i want to creat a new file name ed2k.protocol and add on it some codes , how can i make it
[08:05] <PhinnFort> cwillu: don't install
[08:05] <PhinnFort> hendaus: "kdesu kate ed2k.protocol"
[08:05] <PhinnFort> cwillu: it comes with it, just hidden
[08:05] <PhinnFort> cwillu: hit alt+f2, type in "kcontrol" and hit enter
[08:06] <cwillu> is there a good way to replace the control centre in the menu?
[08:06] <cwillu> if I'm gonna be typing commands, I'd rather be using bash and vi :p
[08:06] <PhinnFort> cwillu: go to run, then
[08:07] <PhinnFort> on the k-menu
[08:07] <PhinnFort> cwillu: when in KControl, search for panels, and choose the panel you want to fix
[08:08] <cwillu> PhinnFort: how do I choose which panel its modifying?
[08:09] <PhinnFort> cwillu: do you have several panels?
[08:10] <PhinnFort> cwillu: if so, there should be a drop down menu, "Settings for:"
[08:10] <cwillu> PhinnFort: I'm trying to have one on the bottom of each display;  I see the option that lets me stretch one across both, but then applets slide around across the divider
[08:10] <PhinnFort> cwillu: you have dual screen?
[08:10] <cwillu> yes
[08:11] <PhinnFort> cwillu: try right click on the panel, add new panel
[08:11] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  thanx, but now i have the question for u
[08:11] <PhinnFort> and drag one over
[08:12] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  To have ed2k links work from Konqueror , You can find this directory by searching for file names ending with .protocol. To search run `find /usr -name "*.protocol"` or `find /opt -name "*.protocol"`. If you're not sure about the directory where KDE is installed you can even put / as search path
[08:12] <cwillu> PhinnFort: I think i see the problem:  'configure panel' from the panel's context menu seems to bring up kubuntu's config tool, which doesn't have the dropdown menu you mentioned
[08:12] <cwillu> nor does it operate on the panel you clicked on
[08:12] <PhinnFort> cwillu: right-clicky config only configures the panel you right-clickys on
[08:12] <PhinnFort> ...it should, afaik;)
[08:12] <PhinnFort> cwillu: but didn't i tell you to use kcontrol?
[08:12] <cwillu> PhinnFort: no, it configures the first panel displayed, _not_ the one I click on :)
[08:13] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  how can i find the files ending with *.protocol and paste the one that i creat
[08:13] <cwillu> PhinnFort: you did, but I also like to be able to right click on things, and expect them to work as expected :)
[08:13] <PhinnFort> cwillu: file a bug if you have time;)
[08:13] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: try xinetd
[08:13] <PhinnFort> hendaus: maybe ask in #kde
[08:13] <PhinnFort> !xinetd
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinetd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <PhinnFort> !info xinetd
[08:13] <ubotu> xinetd: replacement for inetd with many enhancements. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.3.14-1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 356 kB
[08:14] <cwillu> PhinnFort: one sec
[08:14] <PhinnFort> times up
[08:14] <PhinnFort> *'
[08:15] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  i found the .protocol on /usr , but i dont know how to creat the protocol file there
[08:15] <PhinnFort> hendaus: i really don't know what you're trying to do, sorry, but you could try to ask the developers in #kde;)
[08:16] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  i give u the site, http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:hTzJM6eCy_UJ:www.amule.org/wiki/index.php%3Ftitle%3DEd2k_links_handling%26printable%3Dyes+amule+firefox+site:amule.org&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=opera
[08:17] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  just see about konqueror
[08:17] <PhinnFort> hendaus: i think that is a bit old
[08:18] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  coz i need it urgent for amule
[08:18] <PhinnFort> hendaus: wait a second, and i'll walk you through it, ok?
[08:18] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  ok thank u
[08:19] <PhinnFort> hendaus: first, are you sure it doesn't already work?
[08:19] <frank227a> Anyone know of a poker site like partypoker or fulltiltpoker that works with kubuntu/ ubuntu?
[08:19] <hendaus> i told u what it shows
[08:20] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  This untrusted page links to
[08:20] <hendaus> ed2k://|file|Kiyana.WMV|114081360|88801FD69A02BB4B46B15BAED8909CC7|h=ODAZ4LKRW4HG3XCY3EALNHXP7VRNXICH|/.
[08:20] <hendaus> Do you want to follow the link?
[08:20] <PhinnFort> hendaus: hit alt+f2, type in "kdesu kate /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol
[08:20] <PhinnFort> "
[08:20] <hendaus> this happen when i click in the ed2k link
[08:21] <PhinnFort> hendaus: what happens if you follow the link?
[08:21] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  if i follow the link it doesnot work
[08:21] <PhinnFort> ok
[08:21] <PhinnFort> hendaus: did you do as i said?
[08:22] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes
[08:22] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  the ed2k text file open
[08:23] <PhinnFort> hendaus: now please paste everything from this file: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/ed2k.txt
[08:23] <PhinnFort> hendaus: wait
[08:23] <PhinnFort> hendaus: can you first type in "which ed2k" in a console?
[08:24] <hendaus> how
[08:24] <PhinnFort> hendaus: hit alt+f2, type "konsole", hit enter
[08:24] <PhinnFort> then type in "which ed2k" and hit enter
[08:25] <PhinnFort> ok?
[08:25] <|lostbyte|> To display all system variables ?
[08:25] <PhinnFort> |lostbyte|: to show where the ed2k binary resides
[08:25] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  bash: which ed2k: command not found
[08:25] <hendaus> lol
[08:26] <hendaus> i have paste what ever u gave me
[08:26] <PhinnFort> hendaus: which ed2k
[08:26] <PhinnFort> without "'s
[08:26] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  ok it doesnor show anything
[08:27] <PhinnFort> !info ed2k
[08:27] <ubotu> Package ed2k does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[08:27] <PhinnFort> hendaus: hmm, this is weird
[08:27] <NiceGuyUK> Using Feisty Beta : CTRL-SHIFT-L to lock the screen doesn't trigger the screensaver any more - anyone know if this change is by design or if its a bug?
[08:28] <PhinnFort> !info amule-utils
[08:28] <ubotu> amule-utils: utilities for aMule (command-line version). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 377 kB, installed size 760 kB
[08:28] <myTB|Tanuva> is it really necessary to unmount partitions to resize them?
[08:28] <PhinnFort> hendaus: do you have amule-utils installed?
[08:28] <PhinnFort> myTB|Tanuva: of course
[08:28] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  after the maessage shows to follow it --> Could not find the program '/path/to/ed2k'
[08:28] <myTB|Tanuva> hmm..
[08:28] <Yorokobi> NiceGuyUK, have you looked at the global keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol/System Settings?
[08:28] <myTB|Tanuva> then I need to boot a livecd
[08:29] <NiceGuyUK> Yorokobi: one sec, will check.
[08:29] <bill57785> NiceGuyUK: I heard that there was a bug when you lock the screen. Since there is no password to actually enter, you can unlock the screen....not sure how they fixed it though.
[08:29] <PhinnFort> hendaus: that's because you shouldn't close the file before I've found the path
[08:29] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  i just have amle?
[08:29] <PhinnFort> hendaus: install amule-utils
[08:29] <hendaus> *amule
[08:29] <PhinnFort> hendaus: it contains the ed2k program you need for this to work
[08:30] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  so the command of the site that i gave u doesnot work :(?
[08:30] <PhinnFort> hendaus: it will, when you've installed amule-utils and fixed the file
[08:30] <PhinnFort> ok?
[08:31] <Yorokobi> hendaus, the website says that you need to install amule-utils if you have Kubuntu
[08:31] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  can u give the utils site
[08:31] <PhinnFort> hendaus: do you have the konsole open?
[08:31] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes
[08:31] <PhinnFort> hendaus: if so, type in "sudo aptitude install amule-utils"
[08:32] <NiceGuyUK> Yorokobi: yep, the keysetting is there. I still get the session locked, with password, but not with the screensaver hiding whatever I had on the screen before locking
[08:32] <NiceGuyUK> bill57785: I still get the password
[08:33] <PhinnFort> hendaus: while that works, please open http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/ed2k.txt again
[08:33] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes it is installing
[08:33] <hendaus> but i have amule open
[08:33] <Yorokobi> NiceGuyUK, Are you using beryl?
[08:33] <PhinnFort> hendaus: is that a problem?
[08:33] <NiceGuyUK> Yorokobi: nope
[08:33] <Yorokobi> NiceGuyUK, also, is the screen saver configured to lock the screen?
[08:33] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  no
[08:33] <PhinnFort> hendaus: make sure the second line says "exec=/usr/bin/ed2k "%u""
[08:33] <PhinnFort> then replace the ed2k.protocols file with the new one
[08:33] <PhinnFort> ok?
[08:34] <NiceGuyUK> Yorokobi: no, but previous behaviour was if the screen was locked manually and a screensaver was enabled, it would lock with screensaver.  I'll try altering the Screensaver settings and see if that helps
[08:35] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  ok done the utils, now what should i do
[08:35] <PhinnFort> hendaus: have you closed the ed2k.protocols file?
[08:35] <Yorokobi> NiceGuyUK, I've discovered that some of what was "previous behaviour" has changed with feisty
[08:35] <vanman> can you have the kubunto system installed on a pc that still has windows installed as well?
[08:35] <PhinnFort> hendaus: kdesu kate /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol
[08:35] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes
[08:35] <Yorokobi> vanman, yes
[08:35] <PhinnFort> replace everthing with everything from http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/ed2k.txt
[08:35] <PhinnFort> *everything
[08:36] <NiceGuyUK> Yorokobi: fixed it!  turns out it was because of which screensaver I used.  Had "Swarm" from the "Flying Things" section before - changed to "Polygons" and the old behaviour is back :-)
[08:36] <vanman> how much free space would be needed, and how would I go about installing the OS without risking losing the other?
[08:37] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  done
[08:37] <PhinnFort> !space
[08:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about space - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:37] <PhinnFort> hendaus: save the file, and try the link again
[08:37] <Yorokobi> !dualboot
[08:37] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[08:37] <Yorokobi> vanman ^^^
[08:37] <PhinnFort> vanman: there's also video tutorials to guide you through it
[08:38] <PhinnFort> hendaus: maybe do alt+f2, "killall konqueror" first
[08:38] <PhinnFort> to make sure konqueror is restarted
[08:38] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  Could not find the program '/path/to/ed2k'
[08:38] <PhinnFort> if it doesn't work
[08:39] <PhinnFort> hendaus: try killall konqueror
[08:39] <NiceGuyUK> Katapult is cool, but doesn't always recognise every app I want it to.  Ist here a config file for it somewhere?
[08:39] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  ok done
[08:39] <PhinnFort> hendaus: try again
[08:39] <PhinnFort> still won't work?
[08:39] <Yorokobi> hendaus, it'll never find ed2k if the path you specified is literally '/path/to/ed2k'
[08:40] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: konqueror hasn't reloaded the file, i just fixed it
[08:40] <Yorokobi> ah
[08:40] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  the same
[08:40] <PhinnFort> *reloaded the .protocol file
[08:40] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:41] <vanman> ty
[08:41] <PhinnFort> hendaus: close all text editor windows
[08:41] <PhinnFort> hendaus: then hit alt+f2 and type in "kdesu kate /usr/share/services/ed2k.protocol"
[08:41] <hendaus> they all are closed
[08:42] <PhinnFort> replace the second line, which says "exec=/path/to/ed2k..." with "exec=/usr/bin/ed2k "%u""
[08:42] <PhinnFort> save and close
[08:42] <PhinnFort> hendaus: try the link again?
[08:43] <hendaus> ok
[08:43] <PhinnFort> it works?
[08:43] <PhinnFort> hendaus: if not working, killall konqueror, if still not working, "kbuildsycoca --noincremental" in konsole, and try again
[08:44] <PhinnFort> if still not working, reboot;)
[08:44] <PhinnFort> now i'm going to find myself some pizza
[08:44] <PF-Away> good luck
[08:44] <Yorokobi> Indeed, pizza is hard to find :)
[08:44] <hendaus> PF-Away,  yes done thanx :))
[08:45] <hendaus> PF-Away,  thanx too much
[08:45] <hendaus> but the first message shows and when i hit follow it works
[08:46] <hendaus> PF-Away,  is there a way to block the first message?
[08:50] <shampoonator> Anyone ever get an ati raedon 9800pro mit raedon driver to work under kubuntu? i mean the 3d accerleration..
[08:51] <Apollo^101> mplayer does plays .dat or .mp3 files. why
[08:51] <NiceGuyUK> !mp3
[08:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <NiceGuyUK> Apollo^101: mp3 is what they call a "restricted format" - the link above should give you some help
[08:52] <Apollo^101> NiceGuyUK, ok
[08:52] <shampoonator> if i do modprope radeon and there comes an error.. that is not good .. is it?
[08:52] <Apollo^101>  is there a simple way to make a backup of my linux installed partition.   like a live cd?
[08:53] <NiceGuyUK> Apollo^101: there's a lot more to a LiveCD than backing up the partition.  Its quite a complicated procxess
[08:53] <NiceGuyUK> shampoonator: you installed the non-free drivers or the free ones?
[08:53] <shampoonator> free
[08:54] <Apollo^101> NiceGuyUK, yes. i was thinking to make a backup plus make it live on live cd. is it possible. any easy way
[08:54] <Apollo^101> ?
[08:54] <shampoonator> Driver          "radeon" <== thats the free one isnt it.. must be :)
[08:55] <kaner> hey, would anyone have any idea why my clock runs a bit on the fast side?
[08:56] <llutz> kaner: "rm /etc/adjtime" and "ntpdate" after that
[08:57] <kaner> worth a shot, thanks
[08:57] <djnevs> Hello people.. cound anyone help me fix my vid card driver? its a nvidia riva tnt 2 model 64, im running kubuntu feisty beta
[08:57] <shampoonator> ich reboote ma
[08:57] <barravince> hi guys during the sistem upgrade from edgy to feisty i'e retreived these errors:
[08:57] <shampoonator> bei windows half das auch immer
[08:57] <barravince> root@debian:/home/vincenzo# apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:57] <shampoonator> oh wrong.. channel..
[08:57] <shampoonator> :D
[08:57] <barravince> Reading package lists... Done
[08:57] <barravince> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:57] <barravince> Calculating upgrade... Done
[08:57] <barravince> The following packages have been kept back:
[08:57] <barravince>   adept apt apt-utils foo2zjs initramfs-tools kate kcontrol kdebase-bin kdebase-kio-plugins kdelibs4c2a kdepasswd kdeprint kdesktop kdm kfind khelpcenter kicker
[08:58] <barravince>   klipper kmenuedit konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kopete ksmserver ksplash ksysguard ksysguardd kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kwin libc6
[08:58] <barravince>   libc6-i686 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libkonq4 lvm2 mdadm python-apt python-imaging python-imaging-sane python-kde3 python-uno udev
[08:58] <barravince>   xserver-xorg-driver-all xserver-xorg-input-all xutils
[08:58] <barravince> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 48 not upgraded.
[08:58] <Yorokobi> !spam | barravince
[08:58] <ubotu> barravince: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam, !AskTheBot - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[08:58] <barravince> what i can do?
[08:58] <barravince> o sorry i don't know
[08:59] <barravince> is the first time that i'm there
[08:59] <djnevs> Hello people.. cound anyone help me fix my vid card driver? its a nvidia riva tnt 2 model 64, im running kubuntu feisty beta please im me
[08:59] <kaner> whoops, im getting "time stamp to far in the future now for sudo"
[09:00] <jhutchins> djnevs: Feisty is in #ubuntu+1, for all flavors.
[09:00] <djnevs> oh ok
[09:01] <Yorokobi> barravince, did you change your sources.list entries from edgy to feisty (or dapper to edgy) ??
[09:02] <barravince> yorokobi my version is 6.04
[09:02] <jhutchins> barravince: First, you should try the upgrade tool ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ )instead of just doing dist-upgrade.
[09:02] <barravince> and i've see the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade faq
[09:02] <jhutchins> Argh.
[09:02] <jhutchins> Yeah, that's the one.
[09:02] <cwillu> how do you disable mouse-wheel scrolling making that window active in kde?  (i.e., the default in gnome)
[09:02] <jhutchins> barravince: I thought you said edgy => feisty?
[09:02] <Yorokobi> barravince, you shouldn't upgrade from 6.04 to 7.04
[09:03] <katia_> hi eveybody
[09:03] <barravince> and what version is edgy?
[09:03] <cwillu> 6.10
[09:03] <jhutchins> barravince: Good news is a clean install's probably the quickest fix at this point.
[09:03] <Yorokobi> barravince, edgy is 6.10
[09:03] <cwillu> 6.06 you meant though, right?
[09:03] <katia_> i'm using kubuntu 6.06
[09:03] <barravince> a sorry but i'm a new user of kubuntu i suser
[09:04] <Yorokobi> 6.06/6.04 dochidemo
[09:04] <barravince> ok and is there a method for go to 6.04 to 6.10?
[09:04] <katia_> and i need to know if the directory /etc/rc.d exist
[09:04] <cwillu> barravince: normal upgrade, although for 6.06, you have to trigger it by hand (6.06 is a long-term stable version)
[09:04] <jhutchins> katia_: The wonders of the bash shell: ls /etc
[09:05] <katia_> or it belongs to other distros of linux?
[09:05] <Arwen> huh, new kernel, time for a reboot
[09:05] <barravince> ok thanks for all guys :-)
[09:05] <jhutchins> katia_: ubuntu enables runlevels, but they're all the same so it's meaningless.
[09:05] <Apollo^101> the live cd installs kubuntu on hdd. isnt there a standard tool for making (reversing) the process from installed os to a live cd?
[09:05] <cwillu> jhutchins: say wha?
[09:05] <katia_> but i can't find that directory
[09:06] <firsm> Anybody know how to set up keyboard hotkeys in KDE? Some keys seem to work out of the box, but can't find the settings anywhere.
[09:07] <jhutchins> katia_: Ah, I don't think it's there.
[09:07] <jhutchins> !keyboard | firsm
[09:07] <ubotu> firsm: To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:07] <jhutchins> katia_: What are you actually looking for?
[09:08] <cwillu> how do you make mousewheeling not change the focus?
[09:08] <firsm> jhutchins: I didn't ask how to switch my keyboard layout...
[09:08] <CountryGuy> Hi Folks. I have a frustrating problem with a particular internet radio web site that I go to, http://www.bca.cmich.edu/WMHW/index.htm. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.3 with both Kubuntu 6.10 and the Feisty 7.04 beta. When I click on "Listen Live" I don't get any sound. I can get other Internet radio stations but not this one even though it works perfectly under <gulp> Windows. Any ideas of a codec that I may need? I've tried the qu
[09:08] <katia_> jhutchins: i am trying to install qmail
[09:09] <katia_> but in one of the steps i need to access to /etc/rc.d
[09:10] <jhutchins> CountryGuy: Supposed to be quicktime, but mplayer doesn't like it.
[09:10] <Yorokobi> katia_, use Postfix :)
[09:10] <jhutchins> katia_: You need a debian/ubuntu howto.
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> where can i find the latest ffflv..
[09:10] <CountryGuy> I know. I'm baffled.
[09:10] <jhutchins> katia_: Probably just put the startup files in /etc/init.d, but I'm not sure how you activate them.
[09:10] <katia_> ok thanks
[09:12] <jhutchins> katia_: http://www.paralipsis.org/2006/03/ubuntu-qmail-howto/
[09:13] <jhutchins> katia_: Good luck.  See also #ubuntu-server.
[09:13] <katia_> thanks a lot
[09:14] <Yorokobi> jhutchins, that howto barely scratches the surface for installing/configuring qmail. :)
[09:14] <Yorokobi> Trying to set up qmail is why I use Postfix now.
[09:15] <katia_> jajaja
[09:15] <firsm> qmail runs fine on my other box. :p
[09:16] <jhutchins> Yorokobi: It's still more than I know about it.
[09:17] <jhutchins> I still prefer sendmail.
[09:18] <zipper> jhutchins, no offence, but why would anyone choose ubuntu as server distro?
[09:19] <jhutchins> zipper: Because ubuntu's the hot, new thing, and it's not as intimidating as debian.
[09:19] <zipper> jhutchins, its a server... its supposed to be intimidating
[09:19] <jhutchins> zipper: Been managing commercial linux servers for about ten years now.
[09:19] <zipper> and if you dont have a pretty GUI anyway, i fail to see how debian should be more or less intimidating to be honest
[09:20] <zipper> jhutchins, good for you
[09:20] <jhutchins> Debian has a reputation.
[09:20] <jhutchins> A great distro - if you write C code.
[09:21] <chronos-coding> have kubuntu/ubuntu i686 cds/packages?
[09:21] <jhutchins> That may not be deserved, but it's the perception.
[09:21] <zipper> i really disagree, but somehow i dont think another distro war will change anything
[09:21] <Arwen> chronos-coding, is that a question or a statement of fact?
[09:22] <jhutchins> zipper: I'm not asserting that it's true, I'm merely explaining why Debian is more intimidating to people, and why they would consider ubuntu LTS for a server.  There is a server install CD you konow.
[09:22] <Yorokobi> IMHO, Ubuntu for the desktop, RHEL/CentOS for the server
[09:22] <chronos-coding> Arwen: is one question :), sorry for my bad english.
[09:23] <jhutchins> chronos-coding: The standard ubuntu/kubuntu CD's support all x86 architectures.
[09:23] <Arwen> chronos-coding, yes, there are kubuntu and ubuntu CDs and Packages
[09:23] <Yorokobi> !br | chronos-coding
[09:23] <ubotu> chronos-coding: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:23] <Arwen> if you want, there's even a set of DVDs with EVERY package on them
[09:24] <chronos-coding> Arwen: I only want for i686 :). On site I only see i386 livecd for kubuntu 7.04
[09:24] <zipper> jhutchins, i know... But to be honest, people getting intimidated shouldn't really play around with servers anyway. A side question, how could a core server system be anymore or less for C coders than others? I mean, no core should include anything but the most necessary dev tools
[09:24] <chronos-coding> Yorokobi: thx :)
[09:24] <jhutchins> chronos-coding: That supports i686 as well, it's a merged kernel that detects the correct CPU.
[09:24] <Arwen> chronos-coding, there's no such thing as an i686 CD/DVD
[09:24] <chronos-coding> ah, ok
[09:25] <chronos-coding> but packages pre compiled for i686 have, right ...?
[09:25] <Arwen> chronos-coding, it was determined that i686 optimizations were useless, and since i386 code works on i*86...
[09:25] <Arwen> I think libc6 is about the only package that still has 686 optimizations
[09:26] <jhutchins> zipper: Believe it or not, some people think it's appropriate to have a full code development environment on a production server, and think nothing of hand-patching programs to make them work.
[09:26] <hanzz> ok.. so upgrade from edgy to feisty fail... i think that i fix it, but i want to run it again.. how can i do it?
[09:26] <hanzz> *run upgrade again
[09:26] <zipper> jhutchins, i can understand the "No hand-patching" thing, but full code development?
[09:26] <jhutchins> Arwen: Actually, there's a bunch of things that optimize for 686, but the code is merged into a unified library.
[09:27] <Arwen> jhutchins, ok
[09:27] <zipper> jhutchins, that should be done somewhere else than on the server imho
[09:27] <jhutchins> zipper: Sort of the opposite end of the spectrum from me, I agree with you.  Stable, tested, binary packages for my server please.
[09:28] <jhutchins> If really necessary, patched and re-built on a test server (I should be so lucky)
[09:28] <jhutchins> hanzz: Please see #ubuntu+1
[09:29] <zipper> jhutchins, well, maybe i'm just focusing too much on production servers. I mean hell, i used to run debian SID on a server i used as gateway/playground once :P
[09:30] <zipper> that was... exciting
[09:30] <jhutchins> I inhereted an office running on Gentoo unstable, because when they were built unstable was the only way to get everything running.
[09:31] <zipper> jhutchins, its just lovely cleaning up after the last guy huh?
[09:31] <jhutchins> I built a server using Manrdriva 2007, and I think it was a mistake to try to use anything that current - should be at least 6 months old.
[09:32] <zipper> jhutchins, your first mistake was to chose a RPM distro :)
[09:32] <jhutchins> zipper: I disagree there, I like the better compliance with LSB, LFH, and SysV.
[09:33] <jhutchins> zipper: However, I would agree that there aren't any current RPM distros that I would really recommend.
[09:33] <jhutchins> I've used RPM since I started with Linux (RH2.1) and I like and understand it well.
[09:34] <zipper> jhutchins, notice the ":)"... RPM vs deb is mostly a religious question imo. Just use whatever you fancy the most
[09:34] <jhutchins> (We do drift pretty far OT here - if anybody has kubuntu questions just stomp all over us.)
[09:34] <zipper> haha, yeah, sorry about that
[09:34] <zipper> waiting for my slow ass cd burner to finish
[09:34] <zipper> could take hours
[09:35] <Powerking89670> is there a way to change the port the ping command pings?
[09:37] <jhutchins> Powerking89670: Perhaps there's a different way to go about what you're trying to do.
[09:37] <jonathan_> !aptfix
[09:37] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:37] <jonathan_> hey guys im now trying 64bit version of feisty
[09:37] <zipper> shouldnt that ";" be changed to "&&" btw?
[09:37] <jonathan_> could i use the same wiki that i used with edgy to get my open gl to work
[09:38] <Yorokobi> zipper, && and ; are essentially the same
[09:38] <Yorokobi> in bash at any rate
[09:39] <eagles0513875> hey guys im now trying 64bit version of feisty
[09:39] <eagles0513875> could i use the same wiki that i used with edgy to get my open gl to work
[09:39] <zipper> Yorokobi, not entirely. with ; the next command is executed no matter what. With && its only executed if the first command ended succesfully
[09:39] <llutz> Yorokobi: you're wrong
[09:39] <adaptr> you
[09:40] <adaptr> 're soooo wrong
[09:40] <adaptr> so so so very very wroooong
[09:40] <eagles0513875> ?
[09:40] <zipper> lol adaptr
[09:40] <Powerking89670> ok guys no need to flame lol
[09:40] <jhutchins> Feisty is still in #ubuntu+1
[09:40] <zipper> i think he got the hint :)
[09:40] <eagles0513875> ok well im heading ovr there guys
[09:40] <adaptr> very few people get it
[09:40] <eagles0513875> ?
[09:40] <Powerking89670> It doesnt matter how many people get it, there is never a need to flame anyone for anything
[09:40] <adaptr> Powerking89670: who am I flaming ?
[09:41] <Powerking89670> [15:39]  <adaptr> you
[09:41] <Powerking89670> [15:40]  <adaptr> 're soooo wrong
[09:41] <Powerking89670> [15:40]  * Yorokobi sits corrected.
[09:41] <Powerking89670> [15:40]  <adaptr> so so so very very wroooong
[09:41] <eagles0513875> i know this is wrong channel but would that wiki work
[09:41] <adaptr> Powerking89670: thank you for not flooding
[09:41] <Yorokobi> I don't see any burn marks on me
[09:41] <Powerking89670> I think a, "Thats incorrect" is efficient enough to get the point accross
[09:41] <Powerking89670> yw
[09:41] <adaptr> !flood | Powerking89670
[09:41] <ubotu> Powerking89670: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:41] <llutz> no flame at all
[09:41] <zipper> Powerking89670, personally i thought of it as sarcasm, not flaming
[09:42] <adaptr> llutz: actually, it was you I was satirising
[09:42] <Powerking89670> Im a flame nazi, I run forums they have me tense
[09:42] <Powerking89670> I apologize
[09:42] <Yorokobi> I figured adaptr had just jumped at an opportunity to be sarcastic
[09:42] <adaptr> Yorokobi: you got that one right, at least
[09:42] <adaptr> :)
[09:42] <zipper> you should never let such an opportunity slip away anyway
[09:42] <adaptr> loosen UP probies ! it's Easter almost
[09:43] <zipper> gah, dont remind me
[09:43] <adaptr> eggfight, anyone ?
[09:43] <jhutchins> Powerking89670: So what are you trying to achieve by pinging a different port?
[09:43] <zipper> my isp started charging me for a connection that they have yet to deliver... and they've closed down support lines for the easter =(
[09:43] <Yorokobi> adaptr, are they deviled?
[09:43] <Powerking89670> Well, I need to have a friends irc run a DOS drill
[09:43] <adaptr> Yorokobi: I prefer fighting with raw eggs, so no.. prolly not
[09:43] <jhutchins> zipper: Let me guess, BT?
[09:43] <Powerking89670> and well, ping is effective, but he wants it moreso :p
[09:43] <Yorokobi> adaptr, too bad. I could eat a deviled egg right about now ;)
[09:43] <zipper> jhutchins, BT? I'm danish, its a company called CyberCity
[09:44] <jhutchins> zipper: Ah.  British Telecom are right bastards to deal with.  Charged us for six months service after we left the country.
[09:44] <adaptr> Powerking89670: no amount of pinging will test a connection to the point of breaking - unless you craft your own packets
[09:44] <zipper> jhutchins, nice one
[09:45] <adaptr> jhutchins: be glad they didn't stick you for long-distance :)
[09:45] <zipper> haha
[09:45] <cox377> jhutchins: where u from?
[09:45] <llutz> Powerking89670: maybe hping is what you're looking for
[09:45] <zipper> cox377, a wild guess would be UK
[09:45] <jhutchins> cox377: Smack in the middle of the USA these days.
[09:45] <zipper> damn
[09:45] <Powerking89670> tell me more llutz
[09:45] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, ping is an ICMP-only tool. No TCP/UDP ports (flame on!)
[09:45] <cox377> zipper: haha
[09:45] <jhutchins> Wife was on assignment in Hampshire (UK) for two years
[09:45] <zipper> cox377, =/
[09:46] <llutz> Powerking89670: read more at http://www.hping.org/
[09:46] <zipper> Yorokobi, FLAME!!!
[09:46] <zipper> (?)
[09:46] <Powerking89670> Thank you llutz
[09:47] <Yorokobi> zipper, funny, but not sarcastic to the point of being mean :)
[09:47] <jhutchins> Powerking89670: Oh, you mean DoS testing!
[09:47] <Powerking89670> yes
[09:47] <zipper> Yorokobi, heh, well, i was just wondering why you would expect someone to flame you for that comment?
[09:47] <Powerking89670> We have some nasty competition
[09:47] <Powerking89670> I wouldnt put DoS past them
[09:47] <Powerking89670> so we need to be prepared
[09:47] <Yorokobi> zipper, I was covering my bases. Just in case
[09:48] <zipper> Yorokobi, better safe than sorry i guess
[09:48] <Yorokobi> Powerking89670, iptables is your friend. (or a Cisco ASA)
[09:49] <Arwen> Powerking89670, to be frank, there's not much you can do against a true DDoS other than to add more bandwidth
[09:49] <Powerking89670> Yes I know
[09:49] <Powerking89670> its just a drill so we dont loose our IRC chans
[09:50] <Powerking89670> We own the IRC, but its just a test we run occassionally
[09:50] <shampoonator> aargz this ati driver is making me maaaad
[09:50] <zipper> Arwen, bandwitdth, and powerful routers
[09:51] <zipper> either that, or having a bigger botnet than them :P
[09:51] <jhutchins> !beryl | shampoonator
[09:51] <ubotu> shampoonator: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:51] <jhutchins> shampoonator: I assume you've seen the !ati factoid?
[09:51] <Arwen> shampoonator, or... nvidia? :-)
[09:52] <shampoonator> Arwen:  well in fact.. this is the card i got from the pc were i bought a new nvidia card lol
[09:52] <shampoonator> jhutchins:  the what?
[09:52] <eagles0513875> how do i fix apt repositories
[09:53] <eagles0513875> it keeps saying duplicat repositories exist
[09:53] <jhutchins> !ati | shampoonator
[09:53] <ubotu> shampoonator: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:53] <Arwen> !ati | shadowraven
[09:53] <ubotu> shadowraven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:53] <zipper> eagles0513875, look through /etc/apt/sources.list for duplications
[09:53] <Arwen> !ati | shampoonator
[09:53] <Arwen> stupid bot....
[09:53] <shampoonator> ok ok got it :)
[09:53] <Arwen> !easysource | eagles0513875
[09:53] <ubotu> eagles0513875: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:54] <shampoonator> i havent seen THAT howto.. but i give it another try :)
[09:54] <eagles0513875> ok
[09:54] <zipper> uuh
[09:54] <zipper> what a nice tool. Never knew of that website
[09:54] <Arwen> it only kind of works
[09:54] <zipper> meh, theres always a catch
[09:55] <Powerking89670> Does anyone know of a guide to configure my Apache server?
[09:55] <Powerking89670> Id ask the bot, but I wasnt sure if it had one
[09:55] <jhutchins> Powerking89670: http://apache.org
[09:56] <Apollo^101> i cant see some packages like 'reconstructor' in adept package manager of kubuntu. why is that?
[09:56] <jhutchins> Powerking89670: There is also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:56] <jhutchins> !repos | Apollo^101
[09:56] <ubotu> Apollo^101: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:57] <Apollo^101> jhutchins, thanks
[09:58] <james__> is Ntfs-3g verified to be safe to write to XP NTFS??
[09:59] <jhutchins> wolferine: Hey, I see you're checking out tovid!
[09:59] <wolferine> yeah
[10:00] <wolferine> its not working so hot
[10:00] <wolferine> using tovidgui
[10:00] <Apollo^101> how to add all the worlds reopsitores
[10:00] <jhutchins> wolferine: try tktodisk, more recent work on that.
[10:01] <jhutchins> wolferine: I usually use the gui do develop an approximate command, then tweak it from the CLI.
[10:01] <wolferine> ah
[10:01] <wolferine> thats a good point
[10:01] <wolferine> just seems to take a long time
[10:01] <jhutchins> james__: 100% - as long as you have a good backup.
[10:01] <wolferine> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500 Speed: 2216.734 MHz Cache: 512 KB ]  | RAM Usage: 912/3116M [|||||||||||]  ( 29.3% ) | [ HD Model: ST3300831A Size: 684G with 173G Free ( 25.3% ) ]  | Number of process: 140
[10:01] <jhutchins> Yup.
[10:02] <jhutchins> Often more than 1x the running time of the video.
[10:02] <james__> Sysinfo for 'JamesMepis': Linux 2.6.15-27-desktop running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: AMD Duron processor at 1997 MHz (4000 bogomips), HD: 286/542GB, RAM: 1003/1010MB, 98 proc's, 1.46h up
[10:03] <wolferine> Duron, too bad :)
[10:05] <shampoonator> well
[10:05] <shampoonator> last chance.. another reboot :D
[10:06] <Apollo^101> how to add all the worlds reopsitores?
[10:06] <Yorokobi> Apollo^101, do you want to add *all* of the ubuntu mirrors to your sources.list?
[10:06] <Arwen> james__, a little late, but regarding ntfs-3g...
[10:07] <Arwen> james__, how important is the data on your NTFS partition?
[10:07] <jhutchins> Apollo^101: Did you look at that web page ubotu sent you?
[10:07] <shampoonator> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[10:07] <shampoonator>  AARGz oO
[10:07] <zipper> Is there a specific channel about developing in linux (not necessarely FOR linux)? Thinking about C/C++
[10:08] <james__> Arwen: videos expensive, but not important
[10:08] <Arwen> james__, ntfs-3g is believed to be safe for basic read/write operations - make sure not to enable global rw if that ntfs partition has your Windows install on it
[10:09] <Apollo^101> jhutchins, yes. but thats not all the works repos
[10:09] <yonkeltron> any firefox users experiencing crashes when they tab or otherwise move away from firefox?
[10:09] <Arwen> james__, that said, I would suggest migrating your data to ext3 instead of using ntfs-3g as a fix
[10:09] <jhutchins> !easysources | Apollo^101
[10:09] <ubotu> Apollo^101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:09] <james__> Arwen: enable global rw ???
[10:10] <Apollo^101> worlds*
[10:10] <jhutchins> james__: The first sign of an incompatible version of NTFS is complete loss of data on the partition.
[10:10] <wolferine> yonkeltron, have you changed any of the settings in about:config ?
[10:10] <phyerboss> greetings y'all
[10:10] <Arwen> james__, yes, make sure you don't let everyone read/write to the partition *if* it has your Windows install
[10:10] <Arwen> because then you could get r00tk1t5
[10:11] <yonkeltron> wolferine: not really...it began with the ff sec upgrade awhile back
[10:11] <wolferine> hmm
[10:11] <Apollo^101> Yorokobi, all ubuntu and all the worlds repos
[10:11] <Apollo^101> i mean. i usualy want an app and its not in my repos. like reconstructor
[10:11] <Apollo^101> by the way. i just installed an app recontructor. how do i run it?
[10:11] <wolferine> i have had maybe two crashes in FF, in the past week
[10:11] <wolferine> have never duplicated the error
[10:11] <james__> Ar
[10:12] <yonkeltron> wolferine: it happens several times...whenever ff loses focus...it goes down like a lead weight...
[10:12] <james__> Arwen: this is for sda1, not for hda1
[10:12] <Yorokobi> !source-o-matic | Apollo^101
[10:12] <ubotu> Apollo^101: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:12] <wolferine> hmm
[10:12] <wolferine> do a launch in the shell
[10:12] <eXistenZ> hallo
[10:12] <wolferine> view the output on a crash
[10:12] <Arwen> james__, sdax and hdax mean nothing to me :-\ - but have at it
[10:12] <yonkeltron> wolferine: i was thinking about that...
[10:13] <wolferine> see the reasons for the failure
[10:13] <Arwen> if your ntfs-3g breaks something, then there's about 0 recovery chance, but it shouldn't be able to damage Win2000/XP NTFS
[10:13] <eXistenZ> ntfs-3g is quite stable.
[10:13] <zipper> !website
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about website - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <phyerboss> hey, once again I am getting that: "Another process is using the packaging system database(probably some other adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." error
[10:14] <phyerboss> does anyone know how to clear that so I can get the updates that just popped up and run Adept?
[10:14] <eXistenZ> Arwen: What's your CPU temperature?
[10:14] <Yorokobi> phyerboss, 'ps wax | grep adept' followed by 'sudo kill -9 <adept-pid>
[10:14] <Yorokobi> !fix apt | phyerboss
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix apt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:14] <Yorokobi> !fix apept | phyerboss
[10:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix apept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <Yorokobi> 0/2 ... *sigh*
[10:15] <Yorokobi> !fix adept | phyerboss
[10:15] <ubotu> phyerboss: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[10:15] <phyerboss> It seems to keep popping up everytime theres an update
[10:15] <yonkeltron> wolferine: of course now i can't get it to crash
[10:15] <wolferine> ha
[10:15] <wolferine> good
[10:15] <wolferine> run it in a shell all the time :)
[10:15] <Arwen> eXistenZ, um, don't know, somewhere around 40-60C
[10:16] <wolferine> im sure it will happen at some point
[10:16] <eXistenZ> Arwen: How much memory do you have?
[10:16] <Arwen> 512MB - why?
[10:16] <phyerboss> thanks i'll try those
[10:16] <Apollo^101> second thought: when i run reconstructor. it says No module named glade.... whats that?
[10:16] <eXistenZ> Arwen: I think I should get 1GB for kubuntu
[10:16] <eXistenZ> it eats memory just like rice
[10:16] <Arwen> eXistenZ, meh, I have GNOME, but more memory is still nice :-\
[10:17] <jhutchins> phyerboss: That update notifier tool counts as a apt application, it locks the database.
[10:17] <Arwen> also, I need another hard drive :-\
[10:17] <eXistenZ> Arwen: Why not KDE?
[10:17] <Arwen> archiving entire TV series uses space :-\
[10:17] <zipper> Arwen, thats a filthy filthy lie!
[10:17] <zipper> :P
[10:17] <Arwen> eXistenZ, because the double-thickness panel is a turn off
[10:17] <eXistenZ> Arwen: To tell you the truth, Gnome is nice, but crashes more than KDE>
[10:17] <vit_> hola
[10:17] <eXistenZ> I tried both
[10:17] <eXistenZ> KDE is quite heavy, but has nice applications
[10:18] <eXistenZ> everything's quite integrated.
[10:18] <adrian99> umm I was kinda wondering if theres a linux mic boost that will work for when Im using skype
[10:18] <eXistenZ> adrian99: You can enable that in Kmix
[10:18] <Arwen> eXistenZ, yeah, but the fact is that there's more stuff on GNOME than KDE
[10:18] <eXistenZ> Arwen: stuff?
[10:19] <adrian99> Im not getting the option in the kmixer
[10:19] <Arwen> eXistenZ, yes, almost every gui program uses gtk, not qt
[10:19] <vit_> hola
[10:19] <adrian99> I have a feeling it has something to do with my Nvidia realtek audio
[10:19] <eXistenZ> Arwen: Well, you can include gtk in KDE, and I guess KDE has enough programs to get you on
[10:20] <vit_> hello
[10:20] <Arwen> true, but the kde panel is what keeps me away :-\
[10:20] <Arwen> I like gnome-style double panels
[10:20] <adrian99> double panels are annoying
[10:20] <eXistenZ> double panels?
[10:20] <eXistenZ> ah
[10:20] <eXistenZ> separated ones
[10:20] <zipper> Is blackbox not getting updated anymore, or are there any other reasons that only a guide for fluxbox is in the ubuntu wiki?
[10:20] <srecko> I know this isn't kubuntu related, but just wanted to know how you people feel about those: sit-in-your-chair-and-earn-money-from-surfing companies
[10:21] <Arwen> eXistenZ, yes
[10:21] <zipper> srecko, wish i would get paid for doing that
[10:21] <adrian99> but still yea I don't have the mic boost option in the kmixer so I have s slight problem there
[10:21] <srecko> zipper: hehe :)
[10:22] <srecko> zipper: just bounced on agloco :P
[10:22] <eXistenZ> Arwen: Here's my KDE: http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/8058/ss5yd6.png . I enjoy it.
[10:22] <zipper> srecko, havent followed the chat, just saw your comment
[10:22] <Arwen> eXistenZ, yeah, I hate double panels
[10:22] <Arwen> or, double-thickness ones
[10:23] <Arwen> also, that kde speaker icon always looked stupid to me
 your`s KDE sukZ :)
[10:23] <adrian99> the thickness is easy to change
[10:23] <eXistenZ> technikk`: why so? :)
[10:23] <technikk`> check this out
[10:23] <technikk`> http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5319/newlinuxtr8.png
[10:23] <Arwen> adrian99, dunno, won't it always be two layers? just smaller?
[10:23] <technikk`> this is my KDE
[10:23] <technikk`> :)
[10:24] <eXistenZ> technikk`: Those integrated applets might kill my CPU
[10:24] <eXistenZ> It is already 50C, using the newest Zalman fan
[10:24] <Arwen> technikk`, wtf? it's 640x400 and still loading slowly
[10:24] <eXistenZ> technikk`: I prefer black on white + terminus terminal.
[10:25] <eXistenZ> technikk`: and I hate that gradient gray panel
[10:25] <jhutchins> Funny, my kicker is only one layer, except the running-apps dock.
[10:25] <eXistenZ> it hurts my eyes
[10:25] <adrian99> Arwen all you do is right click the task bar go to configure taskbar and arrangement theres an option in there to shrink the size
[10:25] <Powerking89670> Anyone wish to help me set up a link from my var/www/ folder to a PHP folder on my desktop?
[10:25] <technikk`> and i don`t like icons on my desktop
[10:25] <technikk`> :)
[10:25] <Arwen> adrian99, is it still 2 layers though? because I want one continuous linear panel
[10:25] <Powerking89670> I have the soft link made, it just doesnt show up
[10:25] <eXistenZ> technikk`: you may have a powerful cpu. What specs do you have?
[10:25] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:25] <Yorokobi> Arwen, the kde panel can be resized. When its smaller it is only one line high. You can also add panels and have one on top/one on the bottom.
[10:25] <adrian99> yur making no sense
[10:26] <james__> Arwen: where do i find out how to "global rw ????
[10:26] <technikk`> ( Computer Stats ) [ CPU Model: AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-3 Speed: 800.000 MHz Cache: 512 KB ]  | RAM Usage: 220/449M [|||||||||||]  ( 49.0% ) | [ HD Model: ST9808210A Size: 73G with 65G Free ( 89.0% ) ]  | Number of process: 95
[10:26] <technikk`> but this is 2 stepping cpu
[10:26] <Arwen> james__, um... those are just mounting options in /etc/fstab
[10:26] <technikk`> 2x800MHZ
[10:26] <eXistenZ> Sysinfo for 'amerdakka': Linux 2.6.17-11-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU3.00GHz at 2999 MHz (5997 bogomips), , RAM: 497/503MB, 133 proc's, 1.6d up
[10:26] <technikk`> this is laptop
[10:26] <eXistenZ> 133 procs :x
[10:26] <Yorokobi> I have that same proc, eXistenZ
[10:26] <eXistenZ> My RAM is dead
[10:27] <adrian99> so why would I be missing the mic boost from the kmixer anyway?
[10:27] <eXistenZ> I need another 512
[10:27] <Arwen> just make sure to add gid=<fuse group>,umask=007 under the options line
[10:27] <eXistenZ> technikk`: How can you keep up with so low RAM?
[10:27] <jhutchins> adrian99: Perhaps because your sound card lacks that feature, or the driver does not support it.
[10:27] <james__> Arwen: where do i read about doing it,,global rw  ???
[10:27] <eXistenZ> adrian99: Look in the options, you can add it.
[10:28] <technikk`> eXistenZ it`s magic :)
[10:28] <adrian99> my sound is onboard Nvidia realtek
[10:28] <Arwen> james__, you FAIL
[10:28] <Arwen> !fstab | james__
[10:28] <eXistenZ> jhutchins: Most cards (even old ones), support that feature.
[10:28] <ubotu> james__: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:28] <deian> hello again
[10:28] <adrian99> my board is a newer Socket AM2 gigabyte
[10:29] <james__> Arwen: Thanks a lot
[10:29] <deian> has anyone got a link to a list of fesity repositories and third party software?
[10:29] <dromer> !qemu
[10:29] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:30] <quadrinista> hi
[10:30] <srecko> vmware is great, but expensive
[10:30] <adrian99> and I have no idea what options your talking about but I don't see anything like that
[10:31] <jhutchins> !xen
[10:31] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[10:31] <dromer> srecko: I thaught vmware was free?
[10:31] <dromer> jhutchins: oeh ..
[10:31] <velle> could somebody help me get my Kubuntu play audio? I can not get it to play any kind of audio. It is a clean install.
[10:31] <dromer> velle: "any" kind? or mp3?
[10:31] <jhutchins> velle: Have you seen these:
[10:31] <dromer> !mp3
[10:31] <jhutchins> !mp3 | velle
[10:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:31] <ubotu> velle: please see above
[10:31] <srecko> dromer: vmware player - which runs - but the thing that edits no :)
[10:31] <dromer> :)
[10:31] <dromer> srecko: "thing that edits" ?
[10:32] <srecko> workstation :)
[10:32] <Yorokobi> adrian99, in the kmix window there's a tab labeled Input with a Mic option that you can use to boost the mic
[10:32] <zipper> velle, you might want to play around with using OSS or ALSA if you cannot get any sound at all.
 try this list...http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/
[10:32] <velle> i will have a look at them, thanks
[10:32] <adrian99> Yorokobi yea I know its usually there but I don't have that option
[10:32] <srecko> dromer: for creating virtual machines. so, get a friend with full copy, and make him create stuff for you :)
[10:32] <dromer> ok .. hmm
[10:33] <srecko> dromer: google :)
[10:33] <technikk`> srecko des brate :)
[10:33] <dromer> well, I wasn't about to implement any virtual machine soon, perhaps when I get a faster CPU I can do some really stuff with VJ-ing and such
[10:33] <srecko> technikk`: hr?
[10:33] <technikk`> srecko...serbia
[10:34] <srecko> technikk`: a dobro, tolerantan sam ja ;) :P
[10:34] <srecko> salim se
[10:34] <technikk`> ma svi smo mi isti od krvi i mesa
[10:34] <technikk`> shta je bilo bilo je nismo mi zbog toga krivi
[10:34] <srecko> jeste :P
[10:34] <technikk`> :)
[10:35] <technikk`> peoples sorry for this...back to english:)
[10:35] <srecko> yeah
[10:36] <srecko> technikk`: we should start an ex-yu channel here ;)
[10:36] <technikk`> yes we can man :)
[10:36] <technikk`> but i dont like that yu shits
[10:37] <technikk`> srecko how old r u?
[10:37] <Yorokobi> Let's keep southern slav politics etc. outta here, da?
[10:37] <srecko> technikk`: 14, why? :)
[10:38] <srecko> da :P
[10:39] <adrian99> 2 things that should never be talked about are religion and politics cause it only leads to idiotic arguements
[10:39] <srecko> adrian99: yup
[10:39] <velle> dromer: Actually, any kind of audio, also wav. I have tried playing wav in vlc, but nothing comes out. And I have tried "cat pop.wav /dev/dsp" but I just get a lot of symbols in the shell.
[10:40] <Yorokobi> velle, "cat pop.wav > /dev/dsp" (if that even works)
[10:40] <adrian99> welcome to the club velle, only diff is I can play all file formates save for avi and mp3
[10:40] <Sea_Master> adrian99 yes...we r all the same :)
[10:41] <makuseru> how can i install kubuntu on a machine with only 12mb of ram?
[10:41] <makuseru> 128*
[10:41] <velle> Yorokobi: Ahhh... it does not write the stuff on the screen, but still does not play audio
[10:41] <gnomefreak> makuseru: you might beable to but i have never tried that low of ram and ubuntu before
[10:41] <Yorokobi> makuseru, with 12MB ... slowly. With 128MB, the same way everyone else does.
[10:42] <adrian99> lol or in cli
[10:42] <gnomefreak> makuseru: you will however have to use the alternate install cd
[10:42] <makuseru> i have the alternate
[10:42] <gnomefreak> makuseru: if you have 128ram go for it
[10:42] <phyerboss> heh, thats odd adrian99...I can play avi and mp3...but no RECENTLY encoded mpegs
[10:42] <makuseru> it needs more than 128 to do the install from live cd
[10:42] <gnomefreak> yes
[10:42] <gnomefreak> 256 is the spec iirc
[10:42] <makuseru> is there nothing like on fedora disks for computers with low memory where it installs term based
[10:42] <phyerboss> but everything else is playable...even .mov
[10:42] <adrian99> yea dunno why I have all the stuff I need installed to play mp3 but they just won't work
[10:43] <makuseru> no, it wont do it on this box and its 128
[10:43] <makuseru> how can i get a term to install manuallu?
[10:43] <makuseru> manually*
[10:43] <gnomefreak> makuseru: you shouldnt have a problem installing from the alternate cd
[10:44] <makuseru> well i am
[10:44] <makuseru> and its not the CD
[10:44] <gnomefreak> makuseru: if you do make sure its not the ISO or the cd. and make sure its not 7.04 as the specs have changed iirc
[10:44] <makuseru> i treid diffrent ones
[10:44] <makuseru> its dapper
[10:44] <makuseru> how can i get a term form the cd? with out booting it up?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> makuseru: than use alternate cd to install in server mode no GUI
[10:44] <makuseru> so i can install manually
[10:45] <makuseru> how do i do that?
[10:45] <gnomefreak> makuseru: you have to boot the cd to install
[10:45] <makuseru> get it to server mode
[10:45] <makuseru> with no gui
[10:45] <gnomefreak> makuseru: its on the menu for the alternate cd
[10:46] <gnomefreak> makuseru: as soon as you boot the alternate cd you will see 6 choices (give or take) and you choose server
[10:46] <gnomefreak> if the first choice is install or use than its not hte alternate cd
[10:46] <K`zan> Running the Feisty beta, after running the adept updater, it tells me there is a new version of KUbuntu and to click to upgrade now, there is no place to click?!?
[10:47] <makuseru> it is the alternate CD
[10:47] <K`zan> Any thoughts appreciated.
[10:47] <makuseru> cause thats the only ISO ive ever downloaded
[10:47] <Arwen> K`zan, um... probably a bug, just dist-upgrade from a terminal
[10:47] <gnomefreak> K`zan: are you going from one ubuntu to another?
[10:47] <K`zan> Arwen: Will give it a go, thanks!
[10:48] <gnomefreak> makuseru: what happens when you try to boot to it
[10:48] <K`zan> Arwen: err, there is no dist-upgrade to Feisty, is there?!?
[10:48] <Arwen> K`zan, wait, you're trying to go from edgy to feisty? I thought you already had feisty?
[10:48] <makuseru> i get the choices "start or install" "start in safe graphis" "check cd" "mem test" boot from hd"
[10:48] <K`zan> Arwen: Yes, I am running Feisty (7.04)
[10:48] <gnomefreak> K`zan: yes there is but you have to run gksu "update-manager -d"
[10:48] <epzt> under edgy unable since 2 days to download pictures from my usb camera
[10:49] <gnomefreak> K`zan: are you on feisty already
[10:49] <Arwen> K`zan, so, dist-upgrade just acts like normal upgrade but smarter
[10:49] <gnomefreak> makuseru: thats desktop cd
[10:49] <Arwen> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:49] <K`zan> gnomefreak: Thanks.  Will see what happens :-).
[10:49] <gnomefreak> masthats not the alternate
[10:49] <makuseru> yes it is
[10:49] <gnomefreak> makuseru: thats not the alternate
[10:49] <Arwen> makuseru, you fail, that's the live cd
[10:49] <gnomefreak> matysek: not if its says START as there is nothing to start
[10:50] <gnomefreak> makuseru: that is for you not matysek
[10:50] <Arwen> gnomefreak, tab completion problems? :-)
[10:50] <gnomefreak> Arwen: yes
[10:50] <makuseru> i only DL the alternaticve, cause thats the only one i can ever fin d as a torrent
[10:50] <gnomefreak> makuseru: you downloaded the desktop/livecd
[10:50] <matysek> gnomefreak: ok LOL
[10:50] <Yorokobi> makuseru, all of them are available as .torrents
[10:50] <gnomefreak> makuseru: but do as you with
[10:50] <Arwen> makuseru, you failed, because if it has "start/install" it's not a live cd
[10:50] <makuseru> i downladed the "alternat instalation"
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Arwen: it is live cd
[10:51] <makuseru> i still have the ISO
[10:51] <Arwen> gnomefreak, sorry, typo
[10:51] <gnomefreak> you cant STARY alternate cd
[10:51] <gnomefreak> START*
[10:51] <Arwen> makuseru, md5sum the CD, I bet it's the wrong one
[10:51] <Arwen> the iso*
[10:52] <K`zan> Humm, update-manager -d says my system is up to date.  The Kubuntu I have is OK, so I am just not going to worry about it :-).
[10:52] <gnomefreak> alternate cd first menu item == INSTALL
[10:52] <gnomefreak> K`zan: dont use that
[10:52] <gnomefreak> K`zan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:52] <Arwen> K`zan, ^^
[10:52] <K`zan> gnomefreak: Did that and ran it.
[10:52] <gnomefreak> K`zan: sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:53] <gnomefreak> K`zan: what does uname -r say
[10:53] <epzt> under edgy unable since 2 days to download pictures from my usb camera
[10:53] <Arwen> makuseru, this is the torrent you want: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[10:53] <_dennis_> i have some problems with unrar
[10:53] <ssickle_> Does kubuntu have a good cad tool like SolidEdge?
[10:53] <_dennis_> i installed unrar, and i try sudo unrar -e file.rar, but this doesn't seems to work
[10:53] <Sea_Master> i was installed mplayer thrue apt-get but my mplayer dosn`t start`s, i`m not geting any errors nothing just no starting :\
[10:53] <Arwen> _dennis_, the syntax is unrar x file.rar
[10:53] <david_> http://www.pastebin.ca
[10:53] <K`zan> uname -r
[10:53] <K`zan> 2.6.20
[10:54] <Arwen> Sea_Master, start "gmplayer" from a terminal and see if it appears
[10:54] <_dennis_> tnx Arwen
[10:54] <Arwen> and if not, look at the errors
[10:54] <Arwen> _dennis_, :-)
[10:54] <gnomefreak> K`zan: than the normal apt-get update than apt-get dist-upgrade will tell you if ther eis any and it will grab them
[10:54] <Arwen> K`zan, so you already have feisty - tp get your updates/patches, do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:55] <gnomefreak> did he install mplayer or kmplayer did he get them from repos is he on edgy
[10:55] <Sea_Master> Failed to open device
[10:55] <Sea_Master> [skin]  file ( /usr/share/mplayer/skins/default/skin ) not found.
[10:55] <Sea_Master> Skin not found (default).
[10:55] <Sea_Master> wtf?
[10:55] <K`zan> gnomefreak: Arwen I guess it is a bug in the updater, nothing to update...
[10:55] <Arwen> K`zan, hmm
[10:55] <gnomefreak> K`zan: maybe your repos?
[10:55] <Yorokobi> Sea_Master, 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-skins'
[10:55] <Arwen> Sea_Master, uh, check that mplayer-skins is installed
[10:56] <gnomefreak> it will happen if all you have enabled is cdrom
[10:56] <gnomefreak> cdrom and main are enabled by default
[10:56] <gnomefreak> you cant have the 2 work together
[10:57] <gnomefreak> update-manager thinks you are using main but your sources.list defaults to cdrom
[10:57] <K`zan> Arwen: When Adept updater is done and the only option is [Quit] , this is in the middle of the window: "A new version of Kubuntu is available!  Click nest if you wish to upgrade now."  No [Next]  button.  No big deal Feisty/Kubuntu is doing just fine here.
[10:57] <Arwen> K`zan, ok
[10:57] <K`zan> s/nest/next
[10:58] <K`zan> Just cornfuzing is all :-)
[10:58] <Yorokobi> K`zan, purge adept and be free
[11:01] <Hirs> is there a way to connect networkmanager before login?
[11:01] <Yorokobi> Hirs, wireless?
[11:02] <Hirs> Yorokobi: yes
[11:02] <Hirs> Yorokobi: it matters?
[11:02] <Yorokobi> Hirs, if your wifi connection is WEP/WPA then no. networkmanager needs to open the wallet to get the passkey. The wallet can only be opened after logging in to KDE
[11:03] <Yorokobi> Hirs, yes, it matters. A wired connection is configured at boot, wireless is not.
[11:03] <Hirs> Yorokobi: it doesn't have wep
[11:07] <K`zan> Yorokobi: :-) if I purge adept, I'd have to learn something :) LOL!
[11:07] <polly1> Hello
[11:07] <Yorokobi> K`zan, synaptic is a better tool (IMHO) than adept. The only thing you really end up losing is the tray icon and the headache.
[11:08] <polly1> Is it possible for me to connect to my uncles ubuntu desktop over the internet/
[11:09] <croki> bonsoir
[11:09] <croki> je viens de passer de ubuntu a kubuntu et j'ai quelques soucis
[11:09] <croki> ou trouver le kynaptic?
[11:10] <mrigns> !fr | croki
[11:10] <ubotu> croki: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:10] <polly1> Anyone familiar with remote desktops?
[11:10] <K`zan> Yorokobi: I'll look at synaptic again, it didn't seem as "clear" when it tried it before.
[11:10] <Yorokobi> K`zan, :) you could try the my package manager of choice: dselect. You'll be thoroughly confused then
[11:11] <K`zan> Yorokobi: Like I need more of that ;-).
[11:12] <jhutchins> polly1: Yes, if your uncle's desktop is running the correct services and it's not blocked by a firewall at either end.
[11:13] <jhutchins> !vnc | polly1
[11:13] <ubotu> polly1: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[11:13] <firecrotch> I'm trying to run Firefox 3 alpha 3, but it just keeps opening my existing firefox2
[11:14] <jhutchins> firecrotch: You used Mozilla's installer?
[11:14] <firecrotch> jhutchins: I downloaded the tarball that the alpha3 page said to use
[11:18] <jhutchins> firecrotch: Was there some part of "alpha" that you didn't get?
[11:19] <jhutchins> firecrotch: Seriously, if you can't figure out how to start the software you just installed, you have no business messing with alpha software.  That's not a flame, just reality.
[11:20] <jhutchins> It's doing exactly what it should be expected to do.
[11:21] <firecrotch> jhutchins: how so? It should be running alpha 3, not firefox2
[11:21] <jhutchins> firecrotch: It preserved your existing, presumably functional install, because alpha sofware is expected not to work.
[11:23] <polly1> ubotu: The remote desktop that is installed with ubuntu/kubuntu will not automatically support incoming and outgoing connections?
[11:24] <firecrotch> !bot | polly1
[11:24] <ubotu> polly1: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:26] <coty> I just downloaded firefox 2 off the firefox site for linux but i have no idea on how to install it without adept manager
[11:26] <Yorokobi> coty, are you using dapper ?
[11:26] <coty> 6.06
[11:26] <Yorokobi> that'd be a yes
[11:26] <coty> yep
[11:28] <Yorokobi> coty, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:28] <coty> thanks
[11:29] <virtual_mage> can someone help me i have a trouble instaling graphic driver
[11:30] <jhutchins> !ati | virtual_mage
[11:30] <ubotu> virtual_mage: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:31] <shr3ya5> need some help
[11:31] <virtual_mage> i did try everything i could  find ,use envy,easy ubuntu,do it manualy
[11:31] <virtual_mage> still it still dont work always have tu return to the nv one
[11:32] <shr3ya5> is there any way to install kubuntu 7.04 beta on a core 2 duo machine with a 946 motherboard?
[11:32] <shr3ya5> its stuck at loading hardware drivers
[11:33] <coty> Yorokobi: it tells me i need to extract the firefox 2 that i downloaded to opt but when i try it says i dont have the right permissions
[11:33] <Yorokobi> shr3ya5, at the LiveCD menu, press F6 then the up/down arrow to select the first option, append noprobe to the command listed at the bottom and then press enter to boot the LiveCD.
[11:33] <shr3ya5> alright.. will be back if it dont work
[11:33] <shr3ya5> thanks
[11:33] <shr3ya5> :D
[11:34] <Yorokobi> coty, you should probably do the copying as root (sudo cp ...)
[11:34] <Yorokobi> I'm curious to see if that works for shr3ya5 ... :o
[11:34] <pollyo> Will Krfb run on a Gnome system?
[11:37] <coty> Yorokobi: how do i do the copy as root
[11:37] <Sea_Master> sudo cp
[11:37] <Yorokobi> sudo cp <therestofthestory>
[11:37] <coty> what does the thing in <> mean
[11:38] <coty> is that suposse to mean the rest of the story
[11:38] <|Iwonder|> lol
[11:38] <Yorokobi> coty, its meant to represent the remainder of the cp command
[11:39] <coty> Yorokobi: i have no idea what that would be
[11:39] <pirothezero> how can I make sure apt-get/synaptic is not running?
[11:39] <shr3ya5> Yorokobi: man, this thing reboots when i use noprobe
[11:39] <Yorokobi> coty, isn't it in the instructions on the web page?
[11:39] <pirothezero> trying to install stuff and it says its in use
[11:39] <pirothezero> when I know its not since i am not installing anything
[11:40] <wolferine> need a hand applying my mount setting to fstab, can someone help me, I did the following: sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //profserver/profx /mnt/server/
[11:40] <Yorokobi> shr3ya5, well, it was worth a shot. You could try "acpi=off" (or is it noacpi?) ...
[11:40] <coty> yorokobi: sudo tar xzvf firefox-2.0.0.1.tar.gz -C /opt
[11:40] <shr3ya5> Yorokobi: i guess both are used
[11:40] <adrian99> weee I just installed beryl and it worked first try
[11:40] <wolferine> drian99> welcome
[11:41] <Yorokobi> shr3ya5, using both won't hurt ... much :)
[11:41] <shr3ya5> Yorokobi: Lets see man.. none of the distros working with me.. sabayon suse fc6
[11:41] <adrian99> its weird though the effects are going like hyper fast lol
[11:41] <shr3ya5> Yorokobi: I'm stuck with XP :((
[11:42] <Yorokobi> shr3ya5, I have yet to be able to use any distro with my AMD 64 X2 system. XP was hard enough to install on it :)
[11:42] <wolferine> and //profserver/profx /mnt/server  auto    auto,rw         0       0
[11:42] <wolferine> but that didnt mount it on restart
[11:42] <pollyo> How do I determine my ip address for remote connections when I have a router and an internal network ip ?
[11:42] <wolferine> pollyo, www.whatismyip.com
[11:42] <shr3ya5> Yorokobi: Whats the deal with new computers and linux? XP/Vista install without conflicts
[11:42] <Yorokobi> pollyo, n=pollyo@c-68-81-43-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net
[11:43] <pollyo> wolferine: Would I then need to setup port forwarding on my router?
[11:43] <wolferine> pollyo, what are you trying to do?
[11:43] <Yorokobi> shr3ya5, I think my problem is the combination of two SATA RAID arrays and SLI
[11:43] <luckyone> please help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14090/
[11:43] <shr3ya5> i'm using IDE, i remove the SATA RAID while installing linux
[11:43] <Yorokobi> coty, that command should work, yes. (sorry for the delay)
[11:44] <pollyo> wolferine: I want to be able to connect to my desktop from my uncles house and from his house I want to be able to connect to my desktop.
[11:44] <shr3ya5> Yorokobi: brb.. gonna try out some more parameters i found.. lol
[11:44] <wolferine> pollyo, using waht?
[11:44] <pollyo> wolferine: Anything.
[11:44] <pollyo> wolferine: Even using the ssh I have to know the IP address.
[11:45] <Yorokobi> luckyone, have you consulted http://httpd.apache.org/ ??
[11:45] <wolferine> well, you have to be more specific
[11:45] <wolferine> as each will probably use a different port
[11:45] <pollyo> wolferine: I'm looking for any method at this point.  I was looking at VNCoverSSH.
[11:46] <wolferine> so just ssh?
[11:46] <pollyo> wolferine: It was discussing ip addressess and I realized that I didn't know how to determine my real ip.  Or an easy way to determine my uncles from here.
[11:46] <wolferine> ask your uncle
[11:46] <Yorokobi> pollyo, I use freenx (http://www.nomachine.com/)
[11:47] <wolferine> you cannot tell what his IP is, only from his computer
[11:47] <pollyo> wolferine: HE would have no idea.  So I can just direct him to whatismyip.com or whatever the link was.
[11:47] <wolferine> and you didnt answer my question
[11:47] <pollyo> wolferine: I did.  I noted VNCoverSSH.
[11:47] <luckyone> Yorokobi: oh yes, and #apache
 so just ssh?
[11:47] <wolferine> i dont like to repeat
[11:48] <pollyo> wolferine: Just prior to that I noted VNCoverSSH
[11:48] <Yorokobi> pollyo, wolferine already suggested http://whatismyip.com to find out what both of your IPs are
[11:48] <cox377> Yorokobi: whats freenx?
[11:48] <jhutchins> I used to have a script that posted my IP to a web page periodically, that way I could connect even if it changed.
[11:48] <pollyo> Yorkobi: Yes.  I noted that.
[11:48] <jhutchins> There's also a service called dyndns.org that will assign a hostname to your dynamic address.
[11:48] <wolferine> ok, well, I notice you dont want to reply
[11:48] <Yorokobi> cox377, FreeNX uses ssh and X11 forwarding ... sorta VNC over SSH.
[11:48] <wolferine> sorry, dont think I can help
[11:48] <cox377> Yorokobi: sounds sweet,
[11:48] <pollyo> wolferine: OK
[11:49] <wolferine> gl
[11:49] <Yorokobi> cox377, its great
[11:49] <cox377> is it available via apt-get?
[11:49] <Yorokobi> cox377, no, but the website has ubuntu-compatible debs available
[11:50] <pollyo> jhutchins: Is that a fee based service?
[11:50] <cox377> Yorokobi: oooo will have to give it a go
[11:50] <cox377> Yorokobi: : )
[11:50] <nonuda> if i sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop, x seems stop but i got a blank screen with a cursor blinking and i run any command line from there (there no console prompt), how do i fix it?
[11:50] <jhutchins> pollyo: Dunno, but there are free ones.
[11:50] <pollyo> jhutchins: : Ok Thank you.
[11:50] <Yorokobi> nonuda, use Alt-F1 to get a console
[11:50] <jhutchins> nonuda: Ctrl-Alt-F[1-6] 
[11:51] <nonuda> ok..thanks
[11:52] <martin_> hallo
[11:52] <wolferine> if I want a user to be able to mount a drive (samba), do I have do mount it as sudo always?
[11:55] <jhutchins> wolferine: user in the options in fstab.
[11:55] <wolferine> still doesnt do it
[11:55] <wolferine> access denied error
[11:55] <jhutchins> !fstab | wolferine
[11:55] <ubotu> wolferine: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:56] <wolferine> honstly, I really dont need the fstab link
[11:56] <wolferine> but thanks
[11:56] <tony1> hola
[11:56] <nonuda> what is linux kernel version for this common-20060325-linux-i386 file need to run?
[11:57] <tony1> yes
[11:57] <jhutchins> wolferine: man fstab
[11:58] <wolferine> ha
[11:58] <wolferine> funny guy
[11:58] <wolferine> if I can sudo mount it manaully
[11:58] <wolferine> then edit my fstab
[11:58] <wolferine> do a umount
[11:58] <wolferine> then try and mount with the fstab changes
[11:58] <wolferine> i get access denied
[11:59] <wolferine> so thats something in my fstab I guess?
[11:59] <david_> wolferine: are you trying to mount in (when it's in fstab) as root?
[11:59] <wolferine> ill paste
[11:59] <wolferine> sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //profserver/profx /mnt/server/ <-- works
[11:59] <wolferine> so
[11:59] <wolferine> sudo umount /mnt/server/
[12:00] <wolferine> then edit fstab, adding: //profserver/profx /mnt/server  smbfs   auto,user,rw            0       0
[12:00] <wolferine> then I sudo mount /mnt/server
[12:00] <wolferine> and get: 21916: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[12:01] <david_> try the auto,users,defaults
[12:01] <david_> *try changing the options to "auto,users,defaults"
[12:01] <|Iwonder|> sounds like server is denying you
[12:01] <david_> is the server password protected?
[12:01] <wolferine> i can get on with the first (manual) mount though
[12:01] <cox377> Yorokobi: you up for a few questions?
[12:01] <jhutchins> wolferine: You might also try "rw,noauto,user,defaults"
[12:01] <wolferine> :/
[12:01] <cox377> Yorokobi: : )
[12:02] <wolferine> once fstab is changed, save, then I should be able to mount?
[12:02] <jhutchins> wolferine: Are your username and password valid on the windows box?
[12:02] <wolferine> sudo mount -t smbfs -o rw //profserver/profx /mnt/server/ <-- works (w.o a username/password)
[12:02] <jhutchins> wolferine: That's what you're going to find out.  No need to restart or anything.
[12:03] <david_> wolferine: yes, but sometimes there're ever so slight syntax changes between the manual mount and fstab
[12:03] <Yorokobi> cox377, sure
[12:03] <jhutchins> Sometimes the system passes the current username and password when it requests a network connection.
[12:03] <cox377> i'm a little confursed where to start with this freenx
[12:04] <david_> if possible change //name/ to //IP/ I had some issues when setting my system up like that
[12:04] <wolferine> so how do I edit the fstab to incluse the user/pass?
[12:04] <cox377> i've downloaded nxclient / nxplugin / nxserver
[12:04] <wolferine> k, ill try david_
[12:04] <cox377> Yorokobi: i'm assuming i install the server part first
[12:04] <wolferine> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[12:04] <wolferine> smbmnt failed: 1
[12:05] <wolferine> thats what I got when I changed to IP
[12:05] <karmax> hello, what is the best way to TEST baghira on kubuntu?
[12:05] <david_> ooh
[12:05] <wolferine> but its just //IP/profx
[12:05] <david_> that may be positive actually
[12:05] <karmax> i just want to try it
[12:05] <wolferine> not /home/profx
[12:05] <jhutchins> wolferine: add user=<user>,password=<password> to the options.
[12:05] <cox377> Yorokobi: sorry mate, what next.. not registered
[12:06] <Yorokobi> cox377, k, 'sudo dpkg -i nx*.deb' it'll install them in the correct order
[12:06] <jhutchins> wolferine: //<server>/<sharename> - doesn't matter where the share actually is on the server.
[12:06] <wolferine> ah
[12:06] <wolferine> so I added user and pass, into options, and changed to IP, not servername
[12:07] <jhutchins> and?
[12:07] <cox377> Yorokobi: nice one dude, brb
[12:07] <wolferine> same error as above
[12:07] <wolferine> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[12:07] <wolferine> smbmnt failed: 1
[12:07] <jhutchins> What I actually use is credentials=/etc/samba/<file>
[12:07] <david_> karmax:  create a new user and do it there.
[12:07] <jhutchins> WEll, there you go.
[12:08] <jhutchins> Says EXACTLY what the problem is.
[12:08] <wolferine> why does my one liner mount then?
[12:08] <karmax> david_, ok, just download the baghira source, compile it... etc?
[12:08] <jhutchins> wolferine: Nature of sudo.
[12:08] <Yorokobi> wolferine, your one-liner mount is prefixed with sudo
[12:08] <david_> as his his mount -a ...the difference is one has the "user" flag set
[12:09] <wolferine> i am mounting as sudo also though
[12:09] <david_> which matches up with the error message
[12:09] <karmax> david_, i dont know if there is some deb package, or it is best to download it from the cvs... etc
[12:09] <jhutchins> wolferine: Try this: sodo -i
[12:09] <Yorokobi> last I checked, setting the S flag on smbmount/smbumount was discouraged
[12:09] <jhutchins> wolferine: then mount -a
[12:09] <wolferine> sudo -i?
[12:10] <jhutchins> Yes, sorry.
[12:10] <wolferine> ok
[12:10] <david_> if that fails, try removing the "user"  option in your fstab I think that's causing the warning/error
[12:10] <wolferine> does nothing
[12:11] <david_> (it gets a bit confusing when 200 people start trying to give you different tech support :-P )
[12:11] <wolferine> so just: //profserver/profx /mnt/server  smbfs   rw,noauto,user,defaults         0       0
[12:11] <wolferine> thats all I have fallen back on
[12:11] <david_> /profserver/profx /mnt/server  smbfs   rw,noauto,defaults         0       0
[12:11] <david_> go for that
[12:11] <david_> see what happens
[12:11] <jhutchins> wolferine: It should return nothing if there are no errors, you need to do mount again to see what it mounted.
[12:12] <cox377> Yorokobi: http://rafb.net/p/2Holg050.html
[12:12] <cox377> Yorokobi: thats the error msg i get
[12:12] <wolferine> yeah, j, its not in there
[12:12] <jhutchins> Oh, shoot, mount -a probably doesn't do the noauto mounts.
[12:12] <jhutchins> mount <mountpoint> instead.
[12:12] <david_> *sudo mount <mountpoitn>
[12:12] <jhutchins> david_No, he's already sudo -i
[12:12] <wolferine> im su already :P
[12:12] <Yorokobi> cox377, looks like you should install the client, the node, then the server
[12:12] <david_> yeah, just noticed my bad
[12:13] <jhutchins> So?
[12:13] <jhutchins> Does it work?
[12:13] <wolferine> 22577: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[12:13] <wolferine> SMB connection failed
[12:13] <jhutchins> I have like less than two minutes left.