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Admiral_Chicagoasac: setting up that query will be very easy for Master bugs08:29
Admiral_Chicagobut I'm a bit of a busy man right now. it'll have to go on the backburner08:29
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shirishanybody here?11:47
shirishcan anybody help me, I am looking to build chroot11:53
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shirishHi Alex, can u help me?12:03
shirishAlexLatchford: can u help me?12:04
AlexLatchfordHowdy12:04
AlexLatchfordwhats up?12:04
shirishI am trying to build chroot, noob here just bear with me till I tell u what I have done12:04
shirishI am sure you know this page12:05
shirishhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot12:05
AlexLatchfordhmm, I don't think I am quite the man to help12:05
AlexLatchfordI do the wiki writing and small amounts of bug triage, nothing technical really12:06
AlexLatchfordI would talk to hjmf, gnomefreak or asac12:06
shirishah ok, sorry then I also do some small bug triaging12:06
AlexLatchfordaha good12:06
shirishjust need to do some retrace hence need some guidance as apport is still not upto the mark12:07
AlexLatchfordwhat are you trying to do?12:07
AlexLatchfordaha okay12:07
AlexLatchfordyou have seen the mozilla team guide yes?12:07
AlexLatchfordhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport/Retrace12:07
shirishhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/10265412:07
ubotuMalone bug 102654 in firefox "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Needs info] 12:07
shirishyup seen that, it directs one to first build a DebootstrapChroot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot12:08
AlexLatchfordare you receiving an error?12:09
shirishnope It is in process, I am just wondering if the process/procedure I am doing is right or not12:09
shirishbecause I have used feisty sources everywhere while building the chroot12:10
shirishand interestingly apport still does not seem to be in the main repository?12:11
shirishactually it should be apport not in the base system, it seems to be in additional packages in main repository12:12
AlexLatchfordapport still isnt?12:12
shirishAlex do u remember the command to know where all the contents of a package .deb are installed?12:14
AlexLatchfordapt-cache -h12:15
AlexLatchfordor apt-get -h will tell you12:15
AlexLatchfordmaybe showsrc?12:15
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giskardhello *12:17
giskarddo you know how i can tell xulrunner to use by default modern instead of classic12:18
giskardas theme?12:18
shirishnope, that isnt it12:19
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: whats up?12:21
AlexLatchfordshirish needs some help on Apport Retracing12:21
shirishhi gnomefreak12:21
gnomefreakoh boy12:22
AlexLatchfordI still haven't read through the guides yet so I am no use12:22
shirishsorry if I have ruined your early morning, afternoon or evening gnomefreak12:22
gnomefreakshirish: how much do you know. what are you trying to retrace? what version of ubuntu is the user useing what version are you using12:22
gnomefreakshirish: not yet ill ruin that in about 20 mintues by myself :(12:22
shirishgnomefreak: I am trying to retrace my own firefox crash file as they are too big to send, so sending them retrace is good help to developers as well as saving of bandwidth12:23
gnomefreakshirish: feisty?12:24
gnomefreakor edgy?12:24
shirishgnomefreak: yup feisty12:24
shirishalthough I have managed to set up a chroot environment do not know if the method I have followed is right or wrong till now12:24
shirishfor e.g. I have used this one http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.2ubuntu3_all.deb as debootstrap is that ok, it is the newest kid on the block12:25
hjmfhi12:25
shirishhi hjmf12:25
hjmfshirish: I think that since it is your own report you can retrace it with gdb,12:26
hjmf it will be easier12:26
hjmfjust install the firefox-dbg package12:26
hjmfand run12:26
shirishdoes that mean I did not have to do the chroot thing at all :(12:26
hjmfnot really12:26
gnomefreakok just backspaced everything ty hjmf :)12:26
AlexLatchfordlol12:27
hjmf:)12:27
AlexLatchfordgnomefreak: you will have my onslaught maybe in 2 days :)12:27
AlexLatchfordI have got some time planned to learn retracing12:27
gnomefreak:)12:27
shirishand if I install that what happens to my normal firefox one, or can they run side-by-side12:27
hjmfshirish: unpack your crash report in some dir12:27
AlexLatchfordas I have a fast net connection and unlimited bandwidth so I may as well use it12:27
gnomefreakAlexLatchford: let me get this repo finished first adn ill will help you :) btw i have apport_0.61 debs for edgy retraces (or feisty if you wish)12:28
shirishhjmf: how do I unpack it? it is  something_something.crash12:28
hjmfe.g. apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_bin_... /tmp/unpack12:28
hjmfdownload and install firefox-dbg12:29
hjmf... just apt-get it :)12:29
AlexLatchford(sudo apt-get install firefox-dbg)12:29
AlexLatchford(I do know something!)12:29
shirishhjmf: I am just asking if this one does not disrupt my already some-what functioning firefox12:29
hjmf:)12:29
hjmfnot at all12:30
shirishit has passwords & stuff as well as couple of extensions & about 7 days of browsing history in it12:30
gnomefreakno its build with firefox12:30
gnomefreakjust cant be a depends on it12:30
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gnomefreakshirish: is the crash reproducable all the time?12:31
hjmfall that stuff will be in your own config dir, so no problem12:31
shirishnope, sometimes and it may be due to different things I have no idea12:31
shirishok downloading the de-bugged version of firefox its a biggie one12:32
hjmfyes it is :)12:32
gnomefreakyep it is12:32
gnomefreaktry uploding it on slow connection :(12:33
AlexLatchfordhours of fun!12:33
hjmflol12:33
gnomefreak1hour 33 minutes left12:33
gnomefreakuploading it now12:33
hjmfmaybe you can compile|upload through a pipe :)12:33
gnomefreakthan the fun begins12:33
shirishyup although I am downloading it at at 30 KBps which is fast in my country, India12:34
gnomefreaknever though of that12:34
hjmfwould be impossible I guess :)12:34
gnomefreakshirish: im normally download 26kbps on dsl-lite12:34
gnomefreakimage what i get on upload12:34
gnomefreakbrb coffee12:35
shirishsame here, 1/4th of upload, the only salvation is its unlimited12:35
shirishsure12:35
shirishhjmf: till our beloved friend comes back, perhaps u could tell me about the apport-unpack thing12:35
hjmfthen I'm the lucky one 3000kbps12:35
shirishWOWEEEEEEEEe12:35
AlexLatchfordI am on 8meg :)12:35
shirishguys dont make me jealous right nwo12:36
shirishnow12:36
hjmfshirish: just type:12:36
hjmfapport-unpack /path/to/crashreport /tmp/unpack12:36
hjmfthat will unpack it12:36
shirishhjmf: ok on it12:37
hjmfthen the coredump will be located at /tmp/unpack12:37
hjmfonce the firefox-dbg is installed12:38
hjmfyou have to run...12:38
hjmfgdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -c CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log12:38
hjmfwhen you'll be at that point ping me12:39
shirishhjmf: wait a moment please12:40
hjmfk12:40
asachi all12:40
shirishthe firefox-dbg package which I am downloading is from mains, it needs to be from martin repository or this one is ok12:41
shirishhi asac12:41
asacgnomefreak: how is your archive doing?12:41
asacshould i start to setup sync stuff?12:42
hjmfhi asac12:42
shirishdebhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebsfeistymainrestricteduniversemultiverse this one or the one I already have in the mains, in case this is no good I will just un-install it and do it from that repository12:42
hjmfI tried that stuff on  calling DumpJSStack() with no results12:42
hjmf... but I'm the noob :)12:42
shirishasac: gnomefreak has gone for coffee12:42
asachjmf: what happened?12:43
asacshirish: ah thx12:43
hjmflet me a second ...12:43
shirishsure12:43
shirishasac: have u done apport-retrace also?12:45
asaconly a little :)12:45
asachmmm anyone else saw the "Firefox restart required" notification on last upgrade though firefox was not running?12:46
shirishnope when was this?12:46
asactoday ;)12:47
gnomefreakasac: i found the problem (not yet sure what to do to fix it maybe a different gpg command to sign release file) im uploading the rest of fx 3 and all iceape stuff12:47
shirishI have 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 what about yours?12:47
gnomefreakasac: no12:47
asacbug 10268412:48
ubotuMalone bug 102684 in firefox "Don't ask me to restart Firefox when it's not running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10268412:48
gnomefreaki didnt get that page12:48
shirishgnomefreak: glad you are back, the firefox-dbg package is to be taken from the main repository, right?12:48
gnomefreakoh that12:48
gnomefreakshirish: yes12:48
shirishok then I am on right track12:48
asacgnomefreak: if you are done, i will try12:48
gnomefreakno where near done. i am only one firefox-trunk-dbg  should be least of firefox-trunk packages12:49
shirishasac: go right ahead, mine is very small query12:49
hjmf... back again, sorry12:50
hjmfasac: No symbol "DumpJSStack" in current context.12:50
gnomefreaki need 4hours or so to do iceape and finish rebuilding the .gz and updating the release file. as long as i dont upload the release.gpg we are fine12:50
hjmfnot sure what should be the right context12:50
hjmfI've played a bit with gdb but with no succeed12:51
hjmf... till the point to crash the whole system :)12:51
asachjmf: oh :)12:52
hjmfdon't want to know how, sure12:52
asachjmf: what was the stack?12:52
asac... the bug?12:52
hjmfbug 9158412:52
ubotuMalone bug 91584 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@nsHTMLDocument::GetElementById]  [@XPTC_InvokeByIndex] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/9158412:52
hjmfI've tried with other cores from JS_stuff stacks too12:53
hjmfsame succeed12:53
asachmm ... so DumpJSStack is not found?12:53
shirishgnomefreak: are u also building the FF 3.0a2/3 packages?12:54
hjmfno, maybe there you should enable some flag at compiling time12:55
gnomefreaki think its a212:55
gnomefreakasac: 2.99+2 is alpha 2 right?12:55
asachjmf: ok12:55
asachjmf: its just available in debug builds :/12:56
gnomefreakshirish: but yes im building 3.0 series12:56
hjmfok12:56
shirishgnomefreak: cool, and this will be in feisty or the next one after feisty will be released?12:56
gnomefreakright now not sure if feisty+112:57
asachjmf: is xpc_DumpJSStack ... available?12:57
gnomefreakshirish: nothing will be in feisty thats not there already12:57
asacgnomefreak: no the +2 has nothing to do with that :)12:57
shirishdrats lol :P12:57
hjmfNo symbol "xpc_DumpJSStack" in current context.12:57
gnomefreakiceape == feisty+1 (unless issues)12:57
hjmfI remember something about ns....::DebugDumpJSStack12:58
shirishgnomefreak: is that the official name given by mozilla to firefox 3, iceape?12:58
gnomefreakasac: than what build is 20070404? i know thats the date but do you know what alpha it is?12:58
gnomefreakno12:58
hjmfthat worked somehow12:58
gnomefreakiceape == seamonkey12:58
shirishor the debian iceweasel thing?12:58
hjmfjust I cant find it now12:58
shirishgnomefreak: seamonkey is a suite is not it?12:58
asacgnomefreak: its not a real alpha ... most close is alpha 4 iirc12:58
gnomefreakshirish: yes12:59
gnomefreakasac: ah ok12:59
shirishgnomefreak: that is a big deal then woops12:59
hjmf(gdb) call nsXPConnect::DebugDumpJSStack12:59
hjmf$1 = (nsresult ( nsXPConnect::&)) nsXPConnect::nsSupportsWeakReference + 16 bytes12:59
gnomefreak we double team fx3 :)12:59
hjmfbut not sure at all what that means12:59
hjmf:)12:59
asachjmf: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/589301:00
asacso the symbol should exist ... but it does nothing for non-debug builds :(01:00
shirishhjmf: its downloaded, just didnt know it was just debugging libraries that were being downloaded, neat01:00
asacso i guess we cannot get a JSStack dump without reproducing this01:00
gnomefreakasac: next time you speak with upstream can you kick them hard for me for not having tb2 done :( j/k01:01
asacgnomefreak: hehe :)01:01
hjmfshirish: now run01:01
asacgnomefreak: i think they already slaughter themselves about that ... so need for us to do that :)01:01
gnomefreaktrue01:01
gnomefreaki was hoping to keep ff and tb upgraded the same01:02
hjmfgdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -c CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log01:02
shirish gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log01:02
shirishGNU gdb 6.6-debian01:02
shirishCopyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.01:02
shirishGDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are01:02
shirishwelcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.01:02
shirishType "show copying" to see the conditions.01:02
shirishThere is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.01:02
shirishThis GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"...01:02
shirishUsing host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".01:02
shirish/home/shirish/CoreDump: No such file or directory.01:02
shirish(gdb)01:02
shirishsorry for that01:02
asac13:02 < shirish> /home/shirish/CoreDump: No such file or directory.01:02
asac-> thats the problem :)01:02
hjmfin the directory were is the coredump or provide a path01:03
hjmfto it ;)01:03
gnomefreakdid you unpack the bin log?01:03
shirishgnomefreak: are u asking me?01:03
gnomefreakyes01:03
asac@schedule berlin01:03
ubotuSchedule for Europe/Berlin: 05 Apr 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 22:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 22:00: Forum Council01:03
shirishhow do I know if I unpacked the bin log or not?01:03
shirishalso guys how do I get out of the gdb prompt, exit does not work01:04
gnomefreakhjmf: did he unpack the crash report?01:04
hjmfshirish: apport-unpack /path/to/crashreport /tmp/unpack01:04
gnomefreakshirish: quit01:04
hjmfcd /tmp/unpack01:04
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hjmf:)01:05
gnomefreakyay my show is on tonight :)01:06
hjmfyour show?01:07
gnomefreak"are you smarter than a 5th grader"01:07
gnomefreakbrb coffee + smoke01:07
hjmfnot known here01:07
hjmfshirish: at what point are you?01:08
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shirishsorry guys lights had gone out01:30
shirishhjmf: u there?01:31
shirishgnomefreak: u there?01:31
hjmfyes01:31
hjmf:)01:31
gnomefreakyep01:31
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hjmfshirish: follow the script in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs?highlight=%28CategoryMozillaTeam%29#head-523978f1f3009b1b57ef020d5e3ff8674e737f4101:32
shirishhi hj just went to /tmp/unpack & doing the gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log now01:33
hjmfonce you are in gdb01:33
hjmfok01:33
hjmfthen type01:33
hjmfbacktrace full01:33
shirishdid the gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log01:34
hjmfthread apply all backtrace01:34
shirishI am in /tmp/unpack01:34
hjmfok01:34
shirishwait01:34
hjmfyou are at gdb prompt01:34
shirishyup01:34
hjmftype01:34
hjmfbacktrace full01:34
hjmfand01:34
shirishhjmf: listen01:34
hjmfthread apply all backtrace01:34
shirishI have something here, can u listen01:35
shirishit shows Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.01:35
shirish#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()01:35
hjmfthat's ok01:35
shirishok col01:35
hjmftyping backtrace full01:35
hjmfyou'll see a dump of code01:35
shirishbacktrace full should be before or after thread apply all backtrace?01:36
hjmfbetter before , but don't mind01:37
hjmfwe'll strip later01:37
shirishok now it should be thread apply all backtrace right?01:37
hjmfyes01:37
shirishok done01:38
hjmfthat's all, type quit01:38
shirishdone01:38
hjmfand upload the gdb.log file to your bug thread :)01:38
hjmfthank you :)01:38
shirishok will do01:39
shirishjust to reiterate the steps one more time01:39
hjmfI'll review the log and I'll tell you if there is something missing01:39
shirishfirst unpack the .crash to /tmp/unpack or any othe dire01:39
shirishok cool01:39
shirishwill have to wait for few moments, ill get back to u shortly01:40
hjmfk01:40
gnomefreakhjmf: i think we need to simplfiy the instructions on that wiki about using dump for gdb01:41
shirishgnomefreak: yup the more simple the instructions are, the more people will use them01:41
gnomefreaklast time i looked at it it was a bit hard to follow for new users01:42
hjmfI think we can add  -x 'gdb command1' -x 'gdb command2' to the script01:42
hjmfso it will be copy and paste01:42
gnomefreaki havent seen it since it was first written01:42
hjmfby me?01:42
hjmfor before01:42
hjmf?01:42
asacgnomefreak: you already have an apr 5 trunk build :-P ... so i can try upgrade again?01:43
gnomefreakthats what im looking for is a simple copy and paste so the user doesnt have to think.01:43
gnomefreakasac: of course i do :(01:43
gnomefreakmaybe go with the 6th build?01:44
gnomefreakits pretty much the best part of a day to build and upload(including source)01:44
hjmfI'll test a cp&paste script here and later I'll upload to the wiki (after lunch)01:44
shirishuploaded it now to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/10265401:44
ubotuMalone bug 102654 in firefox "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Needs info] 01:44
gnomefreakonce we get people using it than every build maybe more usful?01:44
asacgnomefreak: i was just joking ... i think once a week is more than enough01:45
asaci just thought you would get more used to the procedure ;)01:45
gnomefreakasac: thank you ;)01:45
hjmfshirish: I'll look at it01:45
gnomefreakonce iceape is uploading its not too big a deal01:45
asacgnomefreak: actually i wanted to try if repo is fine ... e.g. if auto upgrade works01:45
shirishhjmf:  ok cool, be waiting for your input01:45
gnomefreakasac: if you upgrade it for the 6th than i will get on it01:46
shirishgnomefreak: I do have some suggestions as a rank newbie01:46
asacme ... upgrade? you just need to change changelog :)01:46
shirishgnomefreak: if you are interested for changing that wiki page01:46
gnomefreakasac: anytime after iceape is done uploading i dont mind it01:46
asacsure :)01:46
gnomefreakasac: you have to put it in bzr no?01:46
gnomefreakshirish: not yet im kind of tied up as you can see ;)01:47
hjmfshirish: every thing looks fine01:47
asacgnomefreak: ... only if any real things change01:47
shirishok, cool :P01:47
hjmfshirish: sad to say that the cash seems to be caused by /home/shirish/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so01:48
gnomefreakasac: sounds good01:48
hjmfwhich is a third party closed source addon01:48
asacshirish: use ubuntu package ... don't install flashplayer by hand01:48
shirishhjmf: know that01:48
gnomefreaklittle trival things are useless to build every day01:48
hjmfshirish: follow asac's hint01:48
hjmf:)01:48
shirishthere is a ubuntu package or u mean swfdec package?01:48
gnomefreakasac: is there a way to diable that in firefox?01:49
gnomefreakor is that hardcoded01:49
asacgnomefreak: disable what?01:49
hjmfapt-get install flashplugin-nonfree01:49
hjmfshirish: ^^01:49
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gnomefreakasac: visit a site needing flash it askd to install it01:49
hjmfsee you later01:49
asacgnomefreak: yes right. currently its not that easy01:49
gnomefreakasac: that is flash upstream (we cant do crap with it but either way i guess it doesnt matter can really do much with flashplugin-nonfree either01:50
asacmy idea is to build a "distributor" extension, that allows add package management to extension dialog01:50
shirishgnomefreak: yup that is what I did, later came to know that there is a swfdec open-source package also01:50
asacgnomefreak: and takes care that you get proper hints if there are ubuntu packages available01:50
asacbut i have to write spec for that and get assignment01:50
gnomefreakasac: thats a good idea01:50
gnomefreakfeisty+1 as a goal? or feisty+2?01:51
gnomefreaki have a feeling that is gonna be a long week (making that)01:52
asacdepends :) on what happens in sevilla ... i hope to get at least an initial version of "distributor" extension for feisty+101:52
shirishgnomefreak: could it be made so that http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ is part of the mozilla package?01:52
gnomefreaksevilla?01:53
asacgnomefreak: yes ... beginning of march we have UDS01:53
asacmay01:53
asac:)01:53
gnomefreakill look but asac would have to make final ack on that01:53
gnomefreakwher eis it?01:53
asachttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Sevilla01:53
gnomefreakparis?01:53
gnomefreakwhy dont they ever come close to me :(01:54
asacgnomefreak: hey ... in Sevilla :)01:54
asacwhere are you?01:54
asacnext time it will be bosten/cambridge01:54
asacboston01:54
gnomefreaknorth carolina US01:54
asacthat should be close :)01:54
gnomefreakthats getting closer01:54
gnomefreakstill a 18+ hour drive01:54
asac1000 miles?01:55
gnomefreakgive or take01:55
asachjmf: you are not member of QA team?01:56
gnomefreakshirish: i wish there was more info on it but i think that isnt a bad idea. asac what do you think about http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ in ubuntu01:56
asacgnomefreak: we have that ... haven't we?01:56
gnomefreakthought he was01:57
gnomefreakasac: you ask me like i would know :(01:57
gnomefreaklol01:57
asacasac@hector:~/ubuntu/firefox_pkg/firefox-2.x/debian$ apt-cache search swfdec01:57
asacgstreamer0.8-swfdec - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder plugin for GStreamer01:57
asaclibswfdec0.3 - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library01:57
asaclibswfdec0.3-dev - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library01:57
asacswf-player - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash)01:57
gnomefreakshirish: we have it already01:57
asacswfdec developer will be in sevilla ... coincidentially he is from hamburg/germany (my hometown)01:58
gnomefreaki knew we had swf-player01:58
gnomefreakwasnt sure abou tthe decoder01:58
asacso whats the different between swfdec and gnash?01:58
gnomefreakcool01:58
shirishgnomefreak:  if we do have that then why is not that in main or something, that will remove lot of crashes which we cannot do about anything01:58
gnomefreakgnash works like crap?01:59
asacactually i use gnash :)01:59
asacworks more or less well01:59
gnomefreakshirish: because flash stuff cant be added to main01:59
asacoften its borked01:59
gnomefreakshirish: its nonfree01:59
asacbut as i have no choice (amd64) ... its better than nothing01:59
shirishgnomefreak: I meant the swfdec library or gnash that could be in main01:59
asacshirish: e.g. we cannot build it on our own for amd64 for instance01:59
gnomefreaktrue01:59
asacshirish: both are01:59
shirishgnomefreak: or you mean its a non-free format?02:00
gnomefreakshirish: yes its restricted02:00
gnomefreakgnash is open i believe02:00
shirishgnomefreak: I believe both swfdec as well as gnash are open02:00
shirishhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swfdec02:01
asacshirish: we have both02:01
asacso whats the point?02:01
shirishasac: then it should somehow be hinted to the user that do not use flash-plugin non-free but instead use either gnash or swfdec02:02
gnomefreakasac: he wants them in main02:02
asacah ok ... let me see02:02
gnomefreakdoesnt that fit into the easy codec installation?02:02
shirishof if even not in main but then a pointer should be given to the user otherwise he is going to install the non-free plugin02:02
shirishyup it should02:03
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asaci think the point is that both are not yet stable enough02:03
asachopefully in feisty+1 we can move one of them to main02:03
asacgnomefreak: you should use it :) ... all users/testers help a lot02:03
gnomefreakasac: i dont know how to use the easy-codec install02:04
shirishgnomefreak: asac: now a question, is there a way I can remove the flash plugin without breaking my FF?02:04
gnomefreak;)02:04
asacshirish: yes02:04
asacjust remove things from .mozilla/plugins02:04
asacall files that have flash in their name02:04
gnomefreakshirish: sure but it wont play flash02:04
asacafter that install gnash02:04
asac:)02:04
gnomefreakflashplayer.so is the important one iirc02:05
asacther ist libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt afaik .02:05
asacboth need to be removed02:05
shirish removed02:05
shirishanybody knows what .DS_Store is about?02:05
asaci saw that ... but can't tell02:06
asacshirish: can you try both: gnash and swf-player02:06
asacand tell me what works better :)02:06
shirishasac: ok will do, install one for some days then install the second for some days or there is way to use both?02:07
asacnot that i know02:08
gnomefreaki would do the former. use 1 for a week use 2nd for a week02:08
gnomefreakunless you do alot of flash that maybe 3 days02:08
shirishgnomefreak:  nope just sometimes, if it breaks good, atleast i can give a good gdb.log now ;)02:09
shirishcorrection, call that usable gdb.log now02:09
asachmm swf-player is not properly detected by ffox202:09
gnomefreakusable == good in some cases02:10
gnomefreakasac: its stand aloe02:10
gnomefreakalone isnt it?02:10
gnomefreakright click file and play in it after you download it02:10
asacno there is a plugin as well02:10
gnomefreakah02:11
asac/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libswfdecmozilla.so02:11
asacits not installed in right place02:11
asacprobably its really outdated in universe02:11
gnomefreakswf-player - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash)02:11
gnomefreakhmmmmm thought it was stand-alone02:11
asacalso its build against xulrunner ... which might caus problems as xulrunner ist still old mozilla branch02:12
gnomefreak0.3.6-2.102:12
asacso for feisty I guess only gnash is an alternative02:12
gnomefreakthey should have caught that early in feisty02:12
asacyeah ... probably we should have caught that02:12
shirishdrats, which means I would have to uninstall it all over again, no issues , asac would u file that bug, I would subscribe to it02:13
gnomefreakasac: we werent around iirc02:13
asacgnomefreak: right02:13
gnomefreakasac: but ian gave up on mozilla afaik early in release02:13
asacshirish: can you file a bug ... after you verified that swf-player really doesn't work?02:13
shirishok will do that :)02:14
asacshirish: great :) ... subscribe me and i will take care that we at least get some decision02:14
asacbut first verify that it doesn't work for you as well :)02:14
shirishwould do that, btw your name on launchpad is also asac?02:15
shirishlol guys do u know there is a package called  Accepted toilet 0.1-2 in ubuntu-installer02:17
asacshirish: yes asac02:17
asacrofl02:18
shirishok cool, so now I know where to find you :)02:18
asacshirish: cu around :)02:18
asacnow that you know how to retrace ... :)02:18
shirishoops the name of the package itself is toilet, its just accept02:18
asac... Ubuntu 7.04 frozen for release candidate preparation02:19
asacgood02:19
asaclets go to holiday then :)02:19
shirishasac: true, but will have to build that chroot environment in-case my crash files are big02:19
shirishand the pakage is something like openoffice.org whose debug version would be a big big one02:20
shirishthankfully no big crash logs till now, except for firefox02:20
asacyes ... retracing locally is most recommended. But most users just can't so we do it for them :)02:20
gnomefreakoops02:21
gnomefreakeh ill get to them today or tomorrow02:21
shirishgnomefreak: if you will be editing the wiki see if you can edit stuff in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for feisty users also02:22
gnomefreakthe chroot wiki is fine. i have 5 set up02:26
shirishok cool, are u known as gnomefreak on launchpad also?02:27
gnomefreakwhen i set up my feisty chroot it spit out errors but works fine02:27
gnomefreakshirish: yep02:27
gnomefreakall too well :(02:27
shirishgnomefreak: I am known in a similar way, slave to gnome although have been getting attracted to xfce also02:28
gnomefreakhttps://beta.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak02:28
shirishtime to file a bug02:28
gnomefreakif your not using beta LP than take beta out of it02:28
=== gnomefreak been way too busy its seems my karma dropped 1000 in last 4-7 days
gnomefreakfont small hackergotchi huge :(02:29
shirishcool02:30
shirishnow why did ur karma drop by 1k?02:30
shirishI am known as https://launchpad.net/~shirishag7502:31
hjmfasac: wrote <hjmf: you are not member of QA team?>02:31
hjmfno I'm not, why?02:31
shirishthe baltix thing is a misnomer02:31
asachjmf: maybe you should :)02:32
asacfor instance you could tweak importance02:32
hjmfwhat are the requisites? if any02:32
hjmflooking02:32
asacno its not02:32
asacyou just tell me02:32
asaci make it happen :)02:32
shirishasac: you are right, swf-player does not function omw to file a bug about it02:34
asacshirish: maybe there is a bug about it already02:34
asacjust CC me on whatever you find/post :)02:34
shirishsure, will do02:34
hjmfasac: applied to QA02:34
gnomefreakkarma dropped because i havent done anything on Lp in a few days4-7 days i think. ive been getting things ready for repo02:35
asachjmf: good ... will take care02:35
hjmfasac: thanks02:35
gnomefreakhjmf: you might want to ping bdmurray if you dont here from him in a few hours about your QA (maybe a day)02:38
gnomefreakill be back im going to cook and eat breakfast02:38
hjmfk02:38
asacgnomefreak: i pinged him02:42
asacgnomefreak: repo gives you super-karma ... which unfortunately is not tracked in lp02:45
shirishasac: you are now a proud subscriber to bug 103301 ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swfdec0.3/+bug/10330102:45
ubotuMalone bug 103301 in swfdec0.3 "swf-player does not show flash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10330102:45
asacshirish: thanks02:45
shirishgnomefreak: are u able to track the bugs you are interested in, in the beta launchpad?02:47
shirishasac: after you have seen the bug tell me if something is missing or I covered it all02:49
shirishin 5 minutes, would be going to take a quick shower, it is summer here02:49
hjmfI've modify the wiki stuff about gdb. This must be easy as is just copy&paste02:51
hjmfTMPDIR=$(mktemp -d)02:51
hjmfapport-unpack _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash $TMPDIR02:51
hjmfgdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core $TMPDIR/CoreDump -ex 'backtrace full'  -ex 'thread apply all backtrace full' -ex 'quit' 2>&1 | tee gdb.log02:51
hjmfrm -fr $TMPDIR02:51
hjmfthe user only needs to upload the gdb.log to launchpad02:51
asaclooks good02:52
asac-dbg package installation as easy?02:52
hjmfyes that is already as a cp and paste too02:53
asacgood02:53
asacnext idea:02:53
asachow do we point users to those instructions?02:53
asace.g. what text do we use?02:53
hjmfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs02:53
hjmf..section Obtain a backtrace from an apport crash report (using gdb)02:53
hjmfI still have to edit the responses wiki though02:54
shirishguys how do I get access to the beta site of launchpad?02:57
shirishok applied for it, ok guys going for a fresh shower, it has been nice knowing you all :)02:59
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hjmfwrote the responses wiki03:02
hjmfat https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses#head-8405d4794c0643fabf667f91a3fcd14baa76ca7c03:02
hjmftell me if that is enough clear03:02
hjmf(notice that I don't use sudo at all, so maybe will have to add to the apt-get entries03:03
hjmf:)03:03
hjmfafk03:06
gnomefreakwell hopfully in an hour repo will be ready to use for time being. still cant use my Release.gpg or it gives that error about Release file03:31
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shirishanybody there?03:39
asachere?03:39
asacnot really ;)03:39
shirishhi asac, good u are here03:39
shirishok where is my FF config file stored?03:40
asacin your profile directory03:42
shirishgot it thnx03:44
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gnomefreaksomeone answered him in another channel prior to you answering him03:45
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shirishasac: do u have a moment?03:48
asacnot much time atm03:49
asacyou can ask03:49
asaci will answer when idle :)03:49
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shirishI lost some libraries from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins03:50
gnomefreakasac: ill ping you when everything is ready to test with repo. iceape and fx3 are in iceape.tar is uploading now03:51
shirishmainly libxul0d, libmoz0d, libnss3-0d, libnspr4-od, libxul-common03:51
shirishanybody knows how I can recover those libraries?03:51
gnomefreakinstall them :) restart firefox?03:52
shirishdoing any apt-get remove firefox removes lot of stuff including ubuntu-desktop03:52
shirishgnomefreak: how do I install the libraries?03:52
gnomefreakshirish: never remove firefox03:52
asacshirish: uninstall all ... install again03:52
asace.g. all packages that contain those files you removed03:52
gnomefreakit breaks alot of things03:52
asacshirish: try apt-get install --reinstall firefox03:53
shirishgnomefreak: asac: I have not removed firefox, just asking how I can re-install the libraries03:53
asacand so on03:53
asacuse library package name instead03:53
gnomefreakshirish: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox :)03:53
shirishgetting an error03:54
gnomefreakbut you might need to grab libs seperatly03:54
shirishE: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall]  is not known.03:54
shirishhow do I grab the libs seperately?03:54
gnomefreakshirish: i didnt use -r03:54
asacuse --reinstall not -reinstall03:55
shirishchecked03:55
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install libxul0d and so on03:56
shirishnope that did not do anything03:56
shirishthanx gnomefreak03:57
gnomefreakyw03:57
shirishgnomefreak: although the plugins are installed but those plugins are not installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/04:01
shirishgnomefreak: I meant the libraries are installed but they are not installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/04:01
gnomefreakshirish: reinstall them. they should automaticly symlink to plugins (as far as i remember atleast)04:02
shirishgnomefreak: asac: can u guys check please if libxul0d is installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/04:02
gnomefreakbrb calling doc.04:03
asaccertainly not in plugins04:03
asacshould be in /usr/lib/04:03
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shirishasac: ok there they are04:05
shirishasac: have u been able to see in youtube using gnash?04:05
shirishfor I get the same bug which I reported with swf-player, it says either javascript is off or using an old flash-player :(04:06
shirishany way to know if my javascript is turned off by any chance, missing library or something?04:07
asacprobably not04:08
asacsome in youtubte might work04:08
asacmost will not04:08
asaci am gone till meeting04:10
asac@schedule04:10
ubotuSchedule for Etc/UTC: 05 Apr 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 20:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 20:00: Forum Council04:10
asac@schedule berlin04:10
ubotuSchedule for Europe/Berlin: 05 Apr 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 22:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 22:00: Forum Council04:10
asac@now berlin04:10
ubotuCurrent time in Europe/Berlin: April 05 2007, 16:10:25 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 1 hour 49 minutes04:10
shirishyup youtube does not work, although we do have the latest gnash, now I wait for somebody to do something about swf-player04:10
shirish@now india04:10
shirish@now Calcutta04:14
ubotuCurrent time in Asia/Calcutta: April 05 2007, 19:44:22 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 1 hour 45 minutes04:14
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gnomefreak@schedule new_york04:36
ubotuSchedule for America/New_York: 05 Apr 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 16:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 16:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 16:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 16:00: Forum Council04:36
gnomefreakasac: devel meeting in 1 1/2 hours04:36
gnomefreakgive or take04:36
gnomefreakhmmmmm04:44
asacyes, i will attend :)04:48
gnomefreakdoes the release file go in /feisty/ or in /mozilla-testing/04:52
gnomefreaktheres an issue im trying to work out but it may just be domain is down04:53
gnomefreakErr http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com feisty/main iceape-calendar 1.1.1-3.mt0 404 Not Found04:53
gnomefreakFailed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb  404 Not Found04:53
gnomefreakE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?04:53
gnomefreakits there04:54
gnomefreakisnt the meeting in 1 hour?04:56
asachmm04:57
asaclet me try04:57
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asacgnomefreak: you have to gen from within feisty dir04:58
asacnot from within main04:58
asacapt-cache show iceape-calendar shows04:58
asacFilename: binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb04:58
asacwhich should be04:58
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asacmain/binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb04:59
asachjmf: you are in QA04:59
hjmfoh thanks :)04:59
asacyw04:59
hjmfso I can decide bug importance now .... hmm :)05:00
asacyeah ... no excuse to keep crashers undecided05:01
asacthey are high for now05:01
asacas we lack proper categorization policy for now05:01
hjmfall crashes = high --- OK05:01
asachowever i think that plugin crashers that are due to nonfree will become low05:01
asacyes for now05:01
hjmfk05:02
hjmflets do some evening triaging05:03
gnomefreakasac: how do i change that? the repo itself(way its named in sources.list)05:04
asacmeeting started :)05:05
gnomefreakmaybe put Release file in a different dir. instead of /mozilla-testing/dist/feisty/ ?05:05
gnomefreaki see05:05
asacyou run dpkg-scan* from within feisty05:05
asacnot from within feisty/main05:05
gnomefreakok05:05
gnomefreakwill do ill let you know05:05
gnomefreakand run cat header >> Release; apt-ftparchive release . >> Release in mozilla/dists/feisty and leave it there?05:09
asaci think so yes05:18
asaclike where you did it before05:18
gnomefreakdoesnt help it05:18
asacRelease.gog was right afaik05:18
asacgpg05:18
gnomefreakasac: it was causing failure05:18
gnomefreakso i left it out05:18
asacimportant is to regen Packages.gz and Release.gz05:18
asacaeh05:18
asacSources.gz05:18
asaci mean05:18
gnomefreakdone05:18
gnomefreakwith Release.gpg you get Failed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)05:20
gnomefreakReading package lists... Done05:20
gnomefreakwithout it you get the other error05:20
gnomefreakgnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386  i dont understand why it wants // after i-38605:21
gnomefreakfinish the meeting ill be around when your done if you have time05:22
asacbug 5850305:28
ubotuMalone bug 58503 in usplash "No response to keyboard input at prompt after ejecting CD-ROM" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5850305:28
gnomefreakproblem is the way the Packages.gz is being made its listing them as Filename: main/binary-i386//firefox-trunk-dbg_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb (notice the 2//) not real sure how to change that other than changing it by hand and rezipping it and moving back (i might try this just to see if it works)05:33
asacthe two // don't hurt05:39
asacbut you can prevent it by not passing trailing / on dpkg-scan*05:39
gnomefreakit doesnt fix it05:46
gnomefreakif the domain was down i couldnt ssh into it05:46
gnomefreakasac: ok im updating my feisty atm im gonna go for a while if you think of anything please let me know.  heres the link so you can browse around looking at things if you want. http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/  my head has been hurting for >= 1week and doc cant get me in till monday so these breaks are a bit helpful for me lately, just ping me if you have somehting ill answer when im back05:54
asactake your time05:55
asacwe can sort this out through easter day05:55
asacok06:09
asacback for a while06:09
asacwill go to holidays soon06:09
asacwill be hear in the european evening throughout weekend06:09
asacs/hear/here/06:10
asacgnomefreak: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release06:10
asac1st: contains the Release file from top-level itself (wrong)06:10
asacpackages.gz and sources.gz look good06:11
asaci guess you only have to fix top-level Release file06:11
asacthen sign06:11
asacdone06:11
asacapt-get update worked well06:12
asacso i guess just signing release file should do the trick06:12
gnomefreakregen Release and put it in mozilla-testing right?06:14
gnomefreakand sign it06:14
gnomefreakstill wont fix the problem though06:14
gnomefreakok nap time ill try it again when i get up.06:15
asacwhich problem?06:15
gnomefreakthe 404 error and if i sign it you will get the error we got yesterday06:15
gnomefreakalso failed to fetch06:16
gnomefreaksigning Release and uploading Release.gpg was causing the errors yesterday on apt-get update. generating the release in toplevel you will get same error as you do now when you go to install an app.06:17
asacgnomefreak: maybe try to gen from mozilla-testing dir06:18
asace.g. packages.gz06:18
asacand sources.gz06:18
asacso you get full path: dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/....deb06:18
asacon apt-cache show firefox-trunk06:18
gnomefreakok ill try it and re do the release(.*) and let you know if your around later today06:18
asacno i get main/binary-i386/....deb06:18
asacand i fail like06:19
asachttp://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/main/binary-i386//firefox-trunk_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb06:19
gnomefreak main/binary-i386/firefox-trunk_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb06:19
asacso we miss dists/feisty06:19
asacin there06:19
asacso regen packages when being in mozilla-testing06:19
asacsame for sources06:19
gnomefreakok so gen the Sources.gz and Packages.gz from toplevel dir.06:19
asacyes06:20
asacgive it a try06:20
gnomefreakok will do later adn we will see06:20
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AlexLatchfordhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/advanced-stylesheet/08:07
AlexLatchfordFor anyone thats interested08:07
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gnomefreakgod i hope this works09:38
gnomefreakasac: its fixed for time being im about to try and break it again ;)09:45
gnomefreakYAY repo is working :)09:46
asacgnomefreak: yeah downloads10:56
asacgood work10:56
gnomefreakty :)10:57
gnomefreaknow i just have to figure out what to do with gnomefreak.asc before i write up the testing memo10:57
asacgnomefreak: now automatize ;)10:57
gnomefreakomg10:57
gnomefreakthat sounds hard10:57
gnomefreak;)10:57
asaci pasted a good link yesterday10:58
asactry to find it :)10:58
gnomefreaktry to find something you pasted? on what domain?10:58
gnomefreak;)10:58
asacsearch for apt-key10:58
asachand gpg in history10:58
asacof this channel :)10:58
gnomefreakok ill look after dinner i have logs i can grep through10:59
gnomefreakbbs going to eat :)10:59
asaccool i have logs10:59
asacirclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:45 < asac> gpg --armor --export 4F368D5D | sudo apt-key add -10:59
asacirclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:47 < asac> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A  |  apt-key add -10:59
asacirclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:59 < gnomefreak> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A  |  apt-key add -  fails10:59
asacirclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:20:00 < asac> you have to run apt-key as root10:59
asacirclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:20:00 < asac> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A  |  sudo apt-key add -10:59
asacirclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-05:22:58 < asac> search for apt-key10:59
asacbefore that10:59
asacyou have to use gpg --import gnomefreak.asc i guess10:59
asace.g. just10:59
asaccat gnomefreak | gpg --import11:00
gnomefreaki already have the public key and the gnomefreak.asc11:00
asacgpg --armor --export <yourkeyid> | sudo apt-key add -11:00
asaci mean for you instructions11:00
asacyou should try if that works11:00
asacok i am away again ... my back hurts a bit11:00
gnomefreakk talk to you later11:01
gnomefreakoh wth11:33
gnomefreakill deal with it tomorrow maybe. but i have everything and everything looks right11:34
gnomefreakasac: the tb2 source is a tar.gz or tar.bz2?12:17

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