=== poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === asac_ [n=asac@debian/developer/asac] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === omgponiezlol [n=Admiral_@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:29] asac: setting up that query will be very easy for Master bugs [08:29] but I'm a bit of a busy man right now. it'll have to go on the backburner === omgponiezlol [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.31.209] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [11:47] anybody here? [11:53] can anybody help me, I am looking to build chroot === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:03] Hi Alex, can u help me? [12:04] AlexLatchford: can u help me? [12:04] Howdy [12:04] whats up? [12:04] I am trying to build chroot, noob here just bear with me till I tell u what I have done [12:05] I am sure you know this page [12:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot [12:05] hmm, I don't think I am quite the man to help [12:06] I do the wiki writing and small amounts of bug triage, nothing technical really [12:06] I would talk to hjmf, gnomefreak or asac [12:06] ah ok, sorry then I also do some small bug triaging [12:06] aha good [12:07] just need to do some retrace hence need some guidance as apport is still not upto the mark [12:07] what are you trying to do? [12:07] aha okay [12:07] you have seen the mozilla team guide yes? [12:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport/Retrace [12:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/102654 [12:07] Malone bug 102654 in firefox "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Needs info] [12:08] yup seen that, it directs one to first build a DebootstrapChroot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot [12:09] are you receiving an error? [12:09] nope It is in process, I am just wondering if the process/procedure I am doing is right or not [12:10] because I have used feisty sources everywhere while building the chroot [12:11] and interestingly apport still does not seem to be in the main repository? [12:12] actually it should be apport not in the base system, it seems to be in additional packages in main repository [12:12] apport still isnt? [12:14] Alex do u remember the command to know where all the contents of a package .deb are installed? [12:15] apt-cache -h [12:15] or apt-get -h will tell you [12:15] maybe showsrc? === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-17-105.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [12:17] hello * [12:18] do you know how i can tell xulrunner to use by default modern instead of classic [12:18] as theme? [12:19] nope, that isnt it [12:21] AlexLatchford: whats up? [12:21] shirish needs some help on Apport Retracing [12:21] hi gnomefreak [12:22] oh boy [12:22] I still haven't read through the guides yet so I am no use [12:22] sorry if I have ruined your early morning, afternoon or evening gnomefreak [12:22] shirish: how much do you know. what are you trying to retrace? what version of ubuntu is the user useing what version are you using [12:22] shirish: not yet ill ruin that in about 20 mintues by myself :( [12:23] gnomefreak: I am trying to retrace my own firefox crash file as they are too big to send, so sending them retrace is good help to developers as well as saving of bandwidth [12:24] shirish: feisty? [12:24] or edgy? [12:24] gnomefreak: yup feisty [12:24] although I have managed to set up a chroot environment do not know if the method I have followed is right or wrong till now [12:25] for e.g. I have used this one http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.2ubuntu3_all.deb as debootstrap is that ok, it is the newest kid on the block [12:25] hi [12:25] hi hjmf [12:26] shirish: I think that since it is your own report you can retrace it with gdb, [12:26] it will be easier [12:26] just install the firefox-dbg package [12:26] and run [12:26] does that mean I did not have to do the chroot thing at all :( [12:26] not really [12:26] ok just backspaced everything ty hjmf :) [12:27] lol [12:27] :) [12:27] gnomefreak: you will have my onslaught maybe in 2 days :) [12:27] I have got some time planned to learn retracing [12:27] :) [12:27] and if I install that what happens to my normal firefox one, or can they run side-by-side [12:27] shirish: unpack your crash report in some dir [12:27] as I have a fast net connection and unlimited bandwidth so I may as well use it [12:28] AlexLatchford: let me get this repo finished first adn ill will help you :) btw i have apport_0.61 debs for edgy retraces (or feisty if you wish) [12:28] hjmf: how do I unpack it? it is something_something.crash [12:28] e.g. apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_bin_... /tmp/unpack [12:29] download and install firefox-dbg [12:29] ... just apt-get it :) [12:29] (sudo apt-get install firefox-dbg) [12:29] (I do know something!) [12:29] hjmf: I am just asking if this one does not disrupt my already some-what functioning firefox [12:29] :) [12:30] not at all [12:30] it has passwords & stuff as well as couple of extensions & about 7 days of browsing history in it [12:30] no its build with firefox [12:30] just cant be a depends on it === giskard [n=giskard@213-140-17-105.ip.fastwebnet.it] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam ["Sto] [12:31] shirish: is the crash reproducable all the time? [12:31] all that stuff will be in your own config dir, so no problem [12:31] nope, sometimes and it may be due to different things I have no idea [12:32] ok downloading the de-bugged version of firefox its a biggie one [12:32] yes it is :) [12:32] yep it is [12:33] try uploding it on slow connection :( [12:33] hours of fun! [12:33] lol [12:33] 1hour 33 minutes left [12:33] uploading it now [12:33] maybe you can compile|upload through a pipe :) [12:33] than the fun begins [12:34] yup although I am downloading it at at 30 KBps which is fast in my country, India [12:34] never though of that [12:34] would be impossible I guess :) [12:34] shirish: im normally download 26kbps on dsl-lite [12:34] image what i get on upload [12:35] brb coffee [12:35] same here, 1/4th of upload, the only salvation is its unlimited [12:35] sure [12:35] hjmf: till our beloved friend comes back, perhaps u could tell me about the apport-unpack thing [12:35] then I'm the lucky one 3000kbps [12:35] WOWEEEEEEEEe [12:35] I am on 8meg :) [12:36] guys dont make me jealous right nwo [12:36] now [12:36] shirish: just type: [12:36] apport-unpack /path/to/crashreport /tmp/unpack [12:36] that will unpack it [12:37] hjmf: ok on it [12:37] then the coredump will be located at /tmp/unpack [12:38] once the firefox-dbg is installed [12:38] you have to run... [12:38] gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -c CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log [12:39] when you'll be at that point ping me [12:40] hjmf: wait a moment please [12:40] k [12:40] hi all [12:41] the firefox-dbg package which I am downloading is from mains, it needs to be from martin repository or this one is ok [12:41] hi asac [12:41] gnomefreak: how is your archive doing? [12:42] should i start to setup sync stuff? [12:42] hi asac [12:42] debhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebsfeistymainrestricteduniversemultiverse this one or the one I already have in the mains, in case this is no good I will just un-install it and do it from that repository [12:42] I tried that stuff on calling DumpJSStack() with no results [12:42] ... but I'm the noob :) [12:42] asac: gnomefreak has gone for coffee [12:43] hjmf: what happened? [12:43] shirish: ah thx [12:43] let me a second ... [12:43] sure [12:45] asac: have u done apport-retrace also? [12:45] only a little :) [12:46] hmmm anyone else saw the "Firefox restart required" notification on last upgrade though firefox was not running? [12:46] nope when was this? [12:47] today ;) [12:47] asac: i found the problem (not yet sure what to do to fix it maybe a different gpg command to sign release file) im uploading the rest of fx 3 and all iceape stuff [12:47] I have 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 what about yours? [12:47] asac: no [12:48] bug 102684 [12:48] Malone bug 102684 in firefox "Don't ask me to restart Firefox when it's not running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102684 [12:48] i didnt get that page [12:48] gnomefreak: glad you are back, the firefox-dbg package is to be taken from the main repository, right? [12:48] oh that [12:48] shirish: yes [12:48] ok then I am on right track [12:48] gnomefreak: if you are done, i will try [12:49] no where near done. i am only one firefox-trunk-dbg should be least of firefox-trunk packages [12:49] asac: go right ahead, mine is very small query [12:50] ... back again, sorry [12:50] asac: No symbol "DumpJSStack" in current context. [12:50] i need 4hours or so to do iceape and finish rebuilding the .gz and updating the release file. as long as i dont upload the release.gpg we are fine [12:50] not sure what should be the right context [12:51] I've played a bit with gdb but with no succeed [12:51] ... till the point to crash the whole system :) [12:52] hjmf: oh :) [12:52] don't want to know how, sure [12:52] hjmf: what was the stack? [12:52] ... the bug? [12:52] bug 91584 [12:52] Malone bug 91584 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@nsHTMLDocument::GetElementById] [@XPTC_InvokeByIndex] " [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/91584 [12:53] I've tried with other cores from JS_stuff stacks too [12:53] same succeed [12:53] hmm ... so DumpJSStack is not found? [12:54] gnomefreak: are u also building the FF 3.0a2/3 packages? [12:55] no, maybe there you should enable some flag at compiling time [12:55] i think its a2 [12:55] asac: 2.99+2 is alpha 2 right? [12:55] hjmf: ok [12:56] hjmf: its just available in debug builds :/ [12:56] shirish: but yes im building 3.0 series [12:56] ok [12:56] gnomefreak: cool, and this will be in feisty or the next one after feisty will be released? [12:57] right now not sure if feisty+1 [12:57] hjmf: is xpc_DumpJSStack ... available? [12:57] shirish: nothing will be in feisty thats not there already [12:57] gnomefreak: no the +2 has nothing to do with that :) [12:57] drats lol :P [12:57] No symbol "xpc_DumpJSStack" in current context. [12:57] iceape == feisty+1 (unless issues) [12:58] I remember something about ns....::DebugDumpJSStack [12:58] gnomefreak: is that the official name given by mozilla to firefox 3, iceape? [12:58] asac: than what build is 20070404? i know thats the date but do you know what alpha it is? [12:58] no [12:58] that worked somehow [12:58] iceape == seamonkey [12:58] or the debian iceweasel thing? [12:58] just I cant find it now [12:58] gnomefreak: seamonkey is a suite is not it? [12:58] gnomefreak: its not a real alpha ... most close is alpha 4 iirc [12:59] shirish: yes [12:59] asac: ah ok [12:59] gnomefreak: that is a big deal then woops [12:59] (gdb) call nsXPConnect::DebugDumpJSStack [12:59] $1 = (nsresult ( nsXPConnect::&)) nsXPConnect::nsSupportsWeakReference + 16 bytes [12:59] we double team fx3 :) [12:59] but not sure at all what that means [12:59] :) [01:00] hjmf: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5893 [01:00] so the symbol should exist ... but it does nothing for non-debug builds :( [01:00] hjmf: its downloaded, just didnt know it was just debugging libraries that were being downloaded, neat [01:00] so i guess we cannot get a JSStack dump without reproducing this [01:01] asac: next time you speak with upstream can you kick them hard for me for not having tb2 done :( j/k [01:01] gnomefreak: hehe :) [01:01] shirish: now run [01:01] gnomefreak: i think they already slaughter themselves about that ... so need for us to do that :) [01:01] true [01:02] i was hoping to keep ff and tb upgraded the same [01:02] gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -c CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log [01:02] gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log [01:02] GNU gdb 6.6-debian [01:02] Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. [01:02] GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are [01:02] welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. [01:02] Type "show copying" to see the conditions. [01:02] There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. [01:02] This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"... [01:02] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1". [01:02] /home/shirish/CoreDump: No such file or directory. [01:02] (gdb) [01:02] sorry for that [01:02] 13:02 < shirish> /home/shirish/CoreDump: No such file or directory. [01:02] -> thats the problem :) [01:03] in the directory were is the coredump or provide a path [01:03] to it ;) [01:03] did you unpack the bin log? [01:03] gnomefreak: are u asking me? [01:03] yes [01:03] @schedule berlin [01:03] Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 05 Apr 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 22:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 22:00: Forum Council [01:03] how do I know if I unpacked the bin log or not? [01:04] also guys how do I get out of the gdb prompt, exit does not work [01:04] hjmf: did he unpack the crash report? [01:04] shirish: apport-unpack /path/to/crashreport /tmp/unpack [01:04] shirish: quit [01:04] cd /tmp/unpack === gnomefreak not paying too close attention so if you did it already im sorry [01:05] :) [01:06] yay my show is on tonight :) [01:07] your show? [01:07] "are you smarter than a 5th grader" [01:07] brb coffee + smoke [01:07] not known here [01:08] shirish: at what point are you? === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.47.71] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [01:30] sorry guys lights had gone out [01:31] hjmf: u there? [01:31] gnomefreak: u there? [01:31] yes [01:31] :) [01:31] yep === gnomefreak is always here :( [01:32] shirish: follow the script in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs?highlight=%28CategoryMozillaTeam%29#head-523978f1f3009b1b57ef020d5e3ff8674e737f41 [01:33] hi hj just went to /tmp/unpack & doing the gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log now [01:33] once you are in gdb [01:33] ok [01:33] then type [01:33] backtrace full [01:34] did the gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log [01:34] thread apply all backtrace [01:34] I am in /tmp/unpack [01:34] ok [01:34] wait [01:34] you are at gdb prompt [01:34] yup [01:34] type [01:34] backtrace full [01:34] and [01:34] hjmf: listen [01:34] thread apply all backtrace [01:35] I have something here, can u listen [01:35] it shows Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. [01:35] #0 0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () [01:35] that's ok [01:35] ok col [01:35] typing backtrace full [01:35] you'll see a dump of code [01:36] backtrace full should be before or after thread apply all backtrace? [01:37] better before , but don't mind [01:37] we'll strip later [01:37] ok now it should be thread apply all backtrace right? [01:37] yes [01:38] ok done [01:38] that's all, type quit [01:38] done [01:38] and upload the gdb.log file to your bug thread :) [01:38] thank you :) [01:39] ok will do [01:39] just to reiterate the steps one more time [01:39] I'll review the log and I'll tell you if there is something missing [01:39] first unpack the .crash to /tmp/unpack or any othe dire [01:39] ok cool [01:40] will have to wait for few moments, ill get back to u shortly [01:40] k [01:41] hjmf: i think we need to simplfiy the instructions on that wiki about using dump for gdb [01:41] gnomefreak: yup the more simple the instructions are, the more people will use them [01:42] last time i looked at it it was a bit hard to follow for new users [01:42] I think we can add -x 'gdb command1' -x 'gdb command2' to the script [01:42] so it will be copy and paste [01:42] i havent seen it since it was first written [01:42] by me? [01:42] or before [01:42] ? [01:43] gnomefreak: you already have an apr 5 trunk build :-P ... so i can try upgrade again? [01:43] thats what im looking for is a simple copy and paste so the user doesnt have to think. [01:43] asac: of course i do :( [01:44] maybe go with the 6th build? [01:44] its pretty much the best part of a day to build and upload(including source) [01:44] I'll test a cp&paste script here and later I'll upload to the wiki (after lunch) [01:44] uploaded it now to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/102654 [01:44] Malone bug 102654 in firefox "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Needs info] [01:44] once we get people using it than every build maybe more usful? [01:45] gnomefreak: i was just joking ... i think once a week is more than enough [01:45] i just thought you would get more used to the procedure ;) [01:45] asac: thank you ;) [01:45] shirish: I'll look at it [01:45] once iceape is uploading its not too big a deal [01:45] gnomefreak: actually i wanted to try if repo is fine ... e.g. if auto upgrade works [01:45] hjmf: ok cool, be waiting for your input [01:46] asac: if you upgrade it for the 6th than i will get on it [01:46] gnomefreak: I do have some suggestions as a rank newbie [01:46] me ... upgrade? you just need to change changelog :) [01:46] gnomefreak: if you are interested for changing that wiki page [01:46] asac: anytime after iceape is done uploading i dont mind it [01:46] sure :) [01:46] asac: you have to put it in bzr no? [01:47] shirish: not yet im kind of tied up as you can see ;) [01:47] shirish: every thing looks fine [01:47] gnomefreak: ... only if any real things change [01:47] ok, cool :P [01:48] shirish: sad to say that the cash seems to be caused by /home/shirish/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so [01:48] asac: sounds good [01:48] which is a third party closed source addon [01:48] shirish: use ubuntu package ... don't install flashplayer by hand [01:48] hjmf: know that [01:48] little trival things are useless to build every day [01:48] shirish: follow asac's hint [01:48] :) [01:48] there is a ubuntu package or u mean swfdec package? [01:49] asac: is there a way to diable that in firefox? [01:49] or is that hardcoded [01:49] gnomefreak: disable what? [01:49] apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [01:49] shirish: ^^ === hjmf out for lunch [01:49] asac: visit a site needing flash it askd to install it [01:49] see you later [01:49] gnomefreak: yes right. currently its not that easy [01:50] asac: that is flash upstream (we cant do crap with it but either way i guess it doesnt matter can really do much with flashplugin-nonfree either [01:50] my idea is to build a "distributor" extension, that allows add package management to extension dialog [01:50] gnomefreak: yup that is what I did, later came to know that there is a swfdec open-source package also [01:50] gnomefreak: and takes care that you get proper hints if there are ubuntu packages available [01:50] but i have to write spec for that and get assignment [01:50] asac: thats a good idea [01:51] feisty+1 as a goal? or feisty+2? [01:52] i have a feeling that is gonna be a long week (making that) [01:52] depends :) on what happens in sevilla ... i hope to get at least an initial version of "distributor" extension for feisty+1 [01:52] gnomefreak: could it be made so that http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ is part of the mozilla package? [01:53] sevilla? [01:53] gnomefreak: yes ... beginning of march we have UDS [01:53] may [01:53] :) [01:53] ill look but asac would have to make final ack on that [01:53] wher eis it? [01:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Sevilla [01:53] paris? [01:54] why dont they ever come close to me :( [01:54] gnomefreak: hey ... in Sevilla :) [01:54] where are you? [01:54] next time it will be bosten/cambridge [01:54] boston [01:54] north carolina US [01:54] that should be close :) [01:54] thats getting closer [01:54] still a 18+ hour drive [01:55] 1000 miles? [01:55] give or take [01:56] hjmf: you are not member of QA team? [01:56] shirish: i wish there was more info on it but i think that isnt a bad idea. asac what do you think about http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ in ubuntu [01:56] gnomefreak: we have that ... haven't we? [01:57] thought he was [01:57] asac: you ask me like i would know :( [01:57] lol [01:57] asac@hector:~/ubuntu/firefox_pkg/firefox-2.x/debian$ apt-cache search swfdec [01:57] gstreamer0.8-swfdec - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder plugin for GStreamer [01:57] libswfdec0.3 - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library [01:57] libswfdec0.3-dev - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library [01:57] swf-player - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash) [01:57] shirish: we have it already [01:58] swfdec developer will be in sevilla ... coincidentially he is from hamburg/germany (my hometown) [01:58] i knew we had swf-player [01:58] wasnt sure abou tthe decoder [01:58] so whats the different between swfdec and gnash? [01:58] cool [01:58] gnomefreak: if we do have that then why is not that in main or something, that will remove lot of crashes which we cannot do about anything [01:59] gnash works like crap? [01:59] actually i use gnash :) [01:59] works more or less well [01:59] shirish: because flash stuff cant be added to main [01:59] often its borked [01:59] shirish: its nonfree [01:59] but as i have no choice (amd64) ... its better than nothing [01:59] gnomefreak: I meant the swfdec library or gnash that could be in main [01:59] shirish: e.g. we cannot build it on our own for amd64 for instance [01:59] true [01:59] shirish: both are [02:00] gnomefreak: or you mean its a non-free format? [02:00] shirish: yes its restricted [02:00] gnash is open i believe [02:00] gnomefreak: I believe both swfdec as well as gnash are open [02:01] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swfdec [02:01] shirish: we have both [02:01] so whats the point? [02:02] asac: then it should somehow be hinted to the user that do not use flash-plugin non-free but instead use either gnash or swfdec [02:02] asac: he wants them in main [02:02] ah ok ... let me see [02:02] doesnt that fit into the easy codec installation? [02:02] of if even not in main but then a pointer should be given to the user otherwise he is going to install the non-free plugin [02:03] yup it should === gnomefreak never used it [02:03] i think the point is that both are not yet stable enough [02:03] hopefully in feisty+1 we can move one of them to main [02:03] gnomefreak: you should use it :) ... all users/testers help a lot [02:04] asac: i dont know how to use the easy-codec install [02:04] gnomefreak: asac: now a question, is there a way I can remove the flash plugin without breaking my FF? [02:04] ;) [02:04] shirish: yes [02:04] just remove things from .mozilla/plugins [02:04] all files that have flash in their name [02:04] shirish: sure but it wont play flash [02:04] after that install gnash [02:04] :) [02:05] flashplayer.so is the important one iirc [02:05] ther ist libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt afaik . [02:05] both need to be removed [02:05] removed [02:05] anybody knows what .DS_Store is about? [02:06] i saw that ... but can't tell [02:06] shirish: can you try both: gnash and swf-player [02:06] and tell me what works better :) [02:07] asac: ok will do, install one for some days then install the second for some days or there is way to use both? [02:08] not that i know [02:08] i would do the former. use 1 for a week use 2nd for a week [02:08] unless you do alot of flash that maybe 3 days [02:09] gnomefreak: nope just sometimes, if it breaks good, atleast i can give a good gdb.log now ;) [02:09] correction, call that usable gdb.log now [02:09] hmm swf-player is not properly detected by ffox2 [02:10] usable == good in some cases [02:10] asac: its stand aloe [02:10] alone isnt it? [02:10] right click file and play in it after you download it [02:10] no there is a plugin as well [02:11] ah [02:11] /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libswfdecmozilla.so [02:11] its not installed in right place [02:11] probably its really outdated in universe [02:11] swf-player - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash) [02:11] hmmmmm thought it was stand-alone [02:12] also its build against xulrunner ... which might caus problems as xulrunner ist still old mozilla branch [02:12] 0.3.6-2.1 [02:12] so for feisty I guess only gnash is an alternative [02:12] they should have caught that early in feisty [02:12] yeah ... probably we should have caught that [02:13] drats, which means I would have to uninstall it all over again, no issues , asac would u file that bug, I would subscribe to it [02:13] asac: we werent around iirc [02:13] gnomefreak: right [02:13] asac: but ian gave up on mozilla afaik early in release [02:13] shirish: can you file a bug ... after you verified that swf-player really doesn't work? [02:14] ok will do that :) [02:14] shirish: great :) ... subscribe me and i will take care that we at least get some decision [02:14] but first verify that it doesn't work for you as well :) [02:15] would do that, btw your name on launchpad is also asac? [02:17] lol guys do u know there is a package called Accepted toilet 0.1-2 in ubuntu-installer [02:17] shirish: yes asac [02:18] rofl [02:18] ok cool, so now I know where to find you :) [02:18] shirish: cu around :) [02:18] now that you know how to retrace ... :) [02:18] oops the name of the package itself is toilet, its just accept [02:19] ... Ubuntu 7.04 frozen for release candidate preparation [02:19] good [02:19] lets go to holiday then :) [02:19] asac: true, but will have to build that chroot environment in-case my crash files are big [02:20] and the pakage is something like openoffice.org whose debug version would be a big big one [02:20] thankfully no big crash logs till now, except for firefox [02:20] yes ... retracing locally is most recommended. But most users just can't so we do it for them :) [02:21] oops [02:21] eh ill get to them today or tomorrow [02:22] gnomefreak: if you will be editing the wiki see if you can edit stuff in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for feisty users also [02:26] the chroot wiki is fine. i have 5 set up [02:27] ok cool, are u known as gnomefreak on launchpad also? [02:27] when i set up my feisty chroot it spit out errors but works fine [02:27] shirish: yep [02:27] all too well :( [02:28] gnomefreak: I am known in a similar way, slave to gnome although have been getting attracted to xfce also [02:28] https://beta.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak [02:28] time to file a bug [02:28] if your not using beta LP than take beta out of it === gnomefreak been way too busy its seems my karma dropped 1000 in last 4-7 days [02:29] font small hackergotchi huge :( [02:30] cool [02:30] now why did ur karma drop by 1k? [02:31] I am known as https://launchpad.net/~shirishag75 [02:31] asac: wrote [02:31] no I'm not, why? [02:31] the baltix thing is a misnomer [02:32] hjmf: maybe you should :) [02:32] for instance you could tweak importance [02:32] what are the requisites? if any [02:32] looking [02:32] no its not [02:32] you just tell me [02:32] i make it happen :) [02:34] asac: you are right, swf-player does not function omw to file a bug about it [02:34] shirish: maybe there is a bug about it already [02:34] just CC me on whatever you find/post :) [02:34] sure, will do [02:34] asac: applied to QA [02:35] karma dropped because i havent done anything on Lp in a few days4-7 days i think. ive been getting things ready for repo [02:35] hjmf: good ... will take care [02:35] asac: thanks [02:38] hjmf: you might want to ping bdmurray if you dont here from him in a few hours about your QA (maybe a day) [02:38] ill be back im going to cook and eat breakfast [02:38] k [02:42] gnomefreak: i pinged him [02:45] gnomefreak: repo gives you super-karma ... which unfortunately is not tracked in lp [02:45] asac: you are now a proud subscriber to bug 103301 ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swfdec0.3/+bug/103301 [02:45] Malone bug 103301 in swfdec0.3 "swf-player does not show flash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103301 [02:45] shirish: thanks [02:47] gnomefreak: are u able to track the bugs you are interested in, in the beta launchpad? [02:49] asac: after you have seen the bug tell me if something is missing or I covered it all [02:49] in 5 minutes, would be going to take a quick shower, it is summer here [02:51] I've modify the wiki stuff about gdb. This must be easy as is just copy&paste [02:51] TMPDIR=$(mktemp -d) [02:51] apport-unpack _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash $TMPDIR [02:51] gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core $TMPDIR/CoreDump -ex 'backtrace full' -ex 'thread apply all backtrace full' -ex 'quit' 2>&1 | tee gdb.log [02:51] rm -fr $TMPDIR [02:51] the user only needs to upload the gdb.log to launchpad [02:52] looks good [02:52] -dbg package installation as easy? [02:53] yes that is already as a cp and paste too [02:53] good [02:53] next idea: [02:53] how do we point users to those instructions? [02:53] e.g. what text do we use? [02:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs [02:53] ..section Obtain a backtrace from an apport crash report (using gdb) [02:54] I still have to edit the responses wiki though [02:57] guys how do I get access to the beta site of launchpad? [02:59] ok applied for it, ok guys going for a fresh shower, it has been nice knowing you all :) === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.47.71] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam [] [03:02] wrote the responses wiki [03:02] at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses#head-8405d4794c0643fabf667f91a3fcd14baa76ca7c [03:02] tell me if that is enough clear [03:03] (notice that I don't use sudo at all, so maybe will have to add to the apt-get entries [03:03] :) [03:06] afk [03:31] well hopfully in an hour repo will be ready to use for time being. still cant use my Release.gpg or it gives that error about Release file === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.3.129] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:39] anybody there? [03:39] here? [03:39] not really ;) [03:39] hi asac, good u are here [03:40] ok where is my FF config file stored? [03:42] in your profile directory [03:44] got it thnx === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.3.129] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam [] [03:45] someone answered him in another channel prior to you answering him === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.3.129] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [03:48] asac: do u have a moment? [03:49] not much time atm [03:49] you can ask [03:49] i will answer when idle :) === gnomefreak thinks its asac's lunch time (well his normal routine) [03:50] I lost some libraries from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins [03:51] asac: ill ping you when everything is ready to test with repo. iceape and fx3 are in iceape.tar is uploading now [03:51] mainly libxul0d, libmoz0d, libnss3-0d, libnspr4-od, libxul-common [03:51] anybody knows how I can recover those libraries? [03:52] install them :) restart firefox? [03:52] doing any apt-get remove firefox removes lot of stuff including ubuntu-desktop [03:52] gnomefreak: how do I install the libraries? [03:52] shirish: never remove firefox [03:52] shirish: uninstall all ... install again [03:52] e.g. all packages that contain those files you removed [03:52] it breaks alot of things [03:53] shirish: try apt-get install --reinstall firefox [03:53] gnomefreak: asac: I have not removed firefox, just asking how I can re-install the libraries [03:53] and so on [03:53] use library package name instead [03:53] shirish: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox :) [03:54] getting an error [03:54] but you might need to grab libs seperatly [03:54] E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall] is not known. [03:54] how do I grab the libs seperately? [03:54] shirish: i didnt use -r [03:55] use --reinstall not -reinstall [03:55] checked [03:56] sudo apt-get install libxul0d and so on [03:56] nope that did not do anything [03:57] thanx gnomefreak [03:57] yw [04:01] gnomefreak: although the plugins are installed but those plugins are not installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ [04:01] gnomefreak: I meant the libraries are installed but they are not installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ [04:02] shirish: reinstall them. they should automaticly symlink to plugins (as far as i remember atleast) [04:02] gnomefreak: asac: can u guys check please if libxul0d is installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ [04:03] brb calling doc. [04:03] certainly not in plugins [04:03] should be in /usr/lib/ === gnomefreak hates changing doctors :( [04:05] asac: ok there they are [04:05] asac: have u been able to see in youtube using gnash? [04:06] for I get the same bug which I reported with swf-player, it says either javascript is off or using an old flash-player :( [04:07] any way to know if my javascript is turned off by any chance, missing library or something? [04:08] probably not [04:08] some in youtubte might work [04:08] most will not [04:10] i am gone till meeting [04:10] @schedule [04:10] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 05 Apr 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 20:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 20:00: Forum Council [04:10] @schedule berlin [04:10] Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 05 Apr 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 22:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 22:00: Forum Council [04:10] @now berlin [04:10] Current time in Europe/Berlin: April 05 2007, 16:10:25 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 1 hour 49 minutes [04:10] yup youtube does not work, although we do have the latest gnash, now I wait for somebody to do something about swf-player [04:10] @now india [04:14] @now Calcutta [04:14] Current time in Asia/Calcutta: April 05 2007, 19:44:22 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 1 hour 45 minutes === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.3.129] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam [] === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.3.129] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === shirish [n=shirish@59.95.3.129] has left #ubuntu-mozillateam [] [04:36] @schedule new_york [04:36] Schedule for America/New_York: 05 Apr 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 16:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 16:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 16:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 16:00: Forum Council [04:36] asac: devel meeting in 1 1/2 hours [04:36] give or take [04:44] hmmmmm [04:48] yes, i will attend :) [04:52] does the release file go in /feisty/ or in /mozilla-testing/ [04:53] theres an issue im trying to work out but it may just be domain is down [04:53] Err http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com feisty/main iceape-calendar 1.1.1-3.mt0 404 Not Found [04:53] Failed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb 404 Not Found [04:53] E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? [04:54] its there [04:56] isnt the meeting in 1 hour? [04:57] hmm [04:57] let me try === gnomefreak goes for smoke since its being a pain in the ass [04:58] gnomefreak: you have to gen from within feisty dir [04:58] not from within main [04:58] apt-cache show iceape-calendar shows [04:58] Filename: binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb [04:58] which should be === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [04:59] main/binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb [04:59] hjmf: you are in QA [04:59] oh thanks :) [04:59] yw [05:00] so I can decide bug importance now .... hmm :) [05:01] yeah ... no excuse to keep crashers undecided [05:01] they are high for now [05:01] as we lack proper categorization policy for now [05:01] all crashes = high --- OK [05:01] however i think that plugin crashers that are due to nonfree will become low [05:01] yes for now [05:02] k [05:03] lets do some evening triaging [05:04] asac: how do i change that? the repo itself(way its named in sources.list) [05:05] meeting started :) [05:05] maybe put Release file in a different dir. instead of /mozilla-testing/dist/feisty/ ? [05:05] i see [05:05] you run dpkg-scan* from within feisty [05:05] not from within feisty/main [05:05] ok [05:05] will do ill let you know [05:09] and run cat header >> Release; apt-ftparchive release . >> Release in mozilla/dists/feisty and leave it there? [05:18] i think so yes [05:18] like where you did it before [05:18] doesnt help it [05:18] Release.gog was right afaik [05:18] gpg [05:18] asac: it was causing failure [05:18] so i left it out [05:18] important is to regen Packages.gz and Release.gz [05:18] aeh [05:18] Sources.gz [05:18] i mean [05:18] done [05:20] with Release.gpg you get Failed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [05:20] Reading package lists... Done [05:20] without it you get the other error [05:21] gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386 i dont understand why it wants // after i-386 [05:22] finish the meeting ill be around when your done if you have time [05:28] bug 58503 [05:28] Malone bug 58503 in usplash "No response to keyboard input at prompt after ejecting CD-ROM" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58503 [05:33] problem is the way the Packages.gz is being made its listing them as Filename: main/binary-i386//firefox-trunk-dbg_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb (notice the 2//) not real sure how to change that other than changing it by hand and rezipping it and moving back (i might try this just to see if it works) [05:39] the two // don't hurt [05:39] but you can prevent it by not passing trailing / on dpkg-scan* [05:46] it doesnt fix it [05:46] if the domain was down i couldnt ssh into it [05:54] asac: ok im updating my feisty atm im gonna go for a while if you think of anything please let me know. heres the link so you can browse around looking at things if you want. http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/ my head has been hurting for >= 1week and doc cant get me in till monday so these breaks are a bit helpful for me lately, just ping me if you have somehting ill answer when im back [05:55] take your time [05:55] we can sort this out through easter day [06:09] ok [06:09] back for a while [06:09] will go to holidays soon [06:09] will be hear in the european evening throughout weekend [06:10] s/hear/here/ [06:10] gnomefreak: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release [06:10] 1st: contains the Release file from top-level itself (wrong) [06:11] packages.gz and sources.gz look good [06:11] i guess you only have to fix top-level Release file [06:11] then sign [06:11] done [06:12] apt-get update worked well [06:12] so i guess just signing release file should do the trick [06:14] regen Release and put it in mozilla-testing right? [06:14] and sign it [06:14] still wont fix the problem though [06:15] ok nap time ill try it again when i get up. [06:15] which problem? [06:15] the 404 error and if i sign it you will get the error we got yesterday [06:16] also failed to fetch [06:17] signing Release and uploading Release.gpg was causing the errors yesterday on apt-get update. generating the release in toplevel you will get same error as you do now when you go to install an app. [06:18] gnomefreak: maybe try to gen from mozilla-testing dir [06:18] e.g. packages.gz [06:18] and sources.gz [06:18] so you get full path: dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/....deb [06:18] on apt-cache show firefox-trunk [06:18] ok ill try it and re do the release(.*) and let you know if your around later today [06:18] no i get main/binary-i386/....deb [06:19] and i fail like [06:19] http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/main/binary-i386//firefox-trunk_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb [06:19] main/binary-i386/firefox-trunk_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb [06:19] so we miss dists/feisty [06:19] in there [06:19] so regen packages when being in mozilla-testing [06:19] same for sources [06:19] ok so gen the Sources.gz and Packages.gz from toplevel dir. [06:20] yes [06:20] give it a try [06:20] ok will do later adn we will see === hjmf [n=hjmf@6.Red-88-25-28.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === AlexLatchford [n=alex@82-44-193-109.cable.ubr07.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [08:07] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/advanced-stylesheet/ [08:07] For anyone thats interested === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-mozillateam [09:38] god i hope this works [09:45] asac: its fixed for time being im about to try and break it again ;) [09:46] YAY repo is working :) [10:56] gnomefreak: yeah downloads [10:56] good work [10:57] ty :) [10:57] now i just have to figure out what to do with gnomefreak.asc before i write up the testing memo [10:57] gnomefreak: now automatize ;) [10:57] omg [10:57] that sounds hard [10:57] ;) [10:58] i pasted a good link yesterday [10:58] try to find it :) [10:58] try to find something you pasted? on what domain? [10:58] ;) [10:58] search for apt-key [10:58] hand gpg in history [10:58] of this channel :) [10:59] ok ill look after dinner i have logs i can grep through [10:59] bbs going to eat :) [10:59] cool i have logs [10:59] irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:45 < asac> gpg --armor --export 4F368D5D | sudo apt-key add - [10:59] irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:47 < asac> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A | apt-key add - [10:59] irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:59 < gnomefreak> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A | apt-key add - fails [10:59] irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:20:00 < asac> you have to run apt-key as root [10:59] irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:20:00 < asac> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A | sudo apt-key add - [10:59] irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-05:22:58 < asac> search for apt-key [10:59] before that [10:59] you have to use gpg --import gnomefreak.asc i guess [10:59] e.g. just [11:00] cat gnomefreak | gpg --import [11:00] i already have the public key and the gnomefreak.asc [11:00] gpg --armor --export | sudo apt-key add - [11:00] i mean for you instructions [11:00] you should try if that works [11:00] ok i am away again ... my back hurts a bit [11:01] k talk to you later [11:33] oh wth [11:34] ill deal with it tomorrow maybe. but i have everything and everything looks right [12:17] asac: the tb2 source is a tar.gz or tar.bz2?