[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: setting up that query will be very easy for Master bugs
[08:29] <Admiral_Chicago> but I'm a bit of a busy man right now. it'll have to go on the backburner
[11:47] <shirish> anybody here?
[11:53] <shirish> can anybody help me, I am looking to build chroot
[12:03] <shirish> Hi Alex, can u help me?
[12:04] <shirish> AlexLatchford: can u help me?
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> Howdy
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> whats up?
[12:04] <shirish> I am trying to build chroot, noob here just bear with me till I tell u what I have done
[12:05] <shirish> I am sure you know this page
[12:05] <shirish> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> hmm, I don't think I am quite the man to help
[12:06] <AlexLatchford> I do the wiki writing and small amounts of bug triage, nothing technical really
[12:06] <AlexLatchford> I would talk to hjmf, gnomefreak or asac
[12:06] <shirish> ah ok, sorry then I also do some small bug triaging
[12:06] <AlexLatchford> aha good
[12:07] <shirish> just need to do some retrace hence need some guidance as apport is still not upto the mark
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> what are you trying to do?
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> you have seen the mozilla team guide yes?
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Apport/Retrace
[12:07] <shirish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/102654
[12:07] <ubotu> Malone bug 102654 in firefox "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Needs info] 
[12:08] <shirish> yup seen that, it directs one to first build a DebootstrapChroot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> are you receiving an error?
[12:09] <shirish> nope It is in process, I am just wondering if the process/procedure I am doing is right or not
[12:10] <shirish> because I have used feisty sources everywhere while building the chroot
[12:11] <shirish> and interestingly apport still does not seem to be in the main repository?
[12:12] <shirish> actually it should be apport not in the base system, it seems to be in additional packages in main repository
[12:12] <AlexLatchford> apport still isnt?
[12:14] <shirish> Alex do u remember the command to know where all the contents of a package .deb are installed?
[12:15] <AlexLatchford> apt-cache -h
[12:15] <AlexLatchford> or apt-get -h will tell you
[12:15] <AlexLatchford> maybe showsrc?
[12:17] <giskard> hello *
[12:18] <giskard> do you know how i can tell xulrunner to use by default modern instead of classic
[12:18] <giskard> as theme?
[12:19] <shirish> nope, that isnt it
[12:21] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: whats up?
[12:21] <AlexLatchford> shirish needs some help on Apport Retracing
[12:21] <shirish> hi gnomefreak
[12:22] <gnomefreak> oh boy
[12:22] <AlexLatchford> I still haven't read through the guides yet so I am no use
[12:22] <shirish> sorry if I have ruined your early morning, afternoon or evening gnomefreak
[12:22] <gnomefreak> shirish: how much do you know. what are you trying to retrace? what version of ubuntu is the user useing what version are you using
[12:22] <gnomefreak> shirish: not yet ill ruin that in about 20 mintues by myself :(
[12:23] <shirish> gnomefreak: I am trying to retrace my own firefox crash file as they are too big to send, so sending them retrace is good help to developers as well as saving of bandwidth
[12:24] <gnomefreak> shirish: feisty?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> or edgy?
[12:24] <shirish> gnomefreak: yup feisty
[12:24] <shirish> although I have managed to set up a chroot environment do not know if the method I have followed is right or wrong till now
[12:25] <shirish> for e.g. I have used this one http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.3.3.2ubuntu3_all.deb as debootstrap is that ok, it is the newest kid on the block
[12:25] <hjmf> hi
[12:25] <shirish> hi hjmf
[12:26] <hjmf> shirish: I think that since it is your own report you can retrace it with gdb,
[12:26] <hjmf>  it will be easier
[12:26] <hjmf> just install the firefox-dbg package
[12:26] <hjmf> and run
[12:26] <shirish> does that mean I did not have to do the chroot thing at all :(
[12:26] <hjmf> not really
[12:26] <gnomefreak> ok just backspaced everything ty hjmf :)
[12:27] <AlexLatchford> lol
[12:27] <hjmf> :)
[12:27] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: you will have my onslaught maybe in 2 days :)
[12:27] <AlexLatchford> I have got some time planned to learn retracing
[12:27] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:27] <shirish> and if I install that what happens to my normal firefox one, or can they run side-by-side
[12:27] <hjmf> shirish: unpack your crash report in some dir
[12:27] <AlexLatchford> as I have a fast net connection and unlimited bandwidth so I may as well use it
[12:28] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: let me get this repo finished first adn ill will help you :) btw i have apport_0.61 debs for edgy retraces (or feisty if you wish)
[12:28] <shirish> hjmf: how do I unpack it? it is  something_something.crash
[12:28] <hjmf> e.g. apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_bin_... /tmp/unpack
[12:29] <hjmf> download and install firefox-dbg
[12:29] <hjmf> ... just apt-get it :)
[12:29] <AlexLatchford> (sudo apt-get install firefox-dbg)
[12:29] <AlexLatchford> (I do know something!)
[12:29] <shirish> hjmf: I am just asking if this one does not disrupt my already some-what functioning firefox
[12:29] <hjmf> :)
[12:30] <hjmf> not at all
[12:30] <shirish> it has passwords & stuff as well as couple of extensions & about 7 days of browsing history in it
[12:30] <gnomefreak> no its build with firefox
[12:30] <gnomefreak> just cant be a depends on it
[12:31] <gnomefreak> shirish: is the crash reproducable all the time?
[12:31] <hjmf> all that stuff will be in your own config dir, so no problem
[12:31] <shirish> nope, sometimes and it may be due to different things I have no idea
[12:32] <shirish> ok downloading the de-bugged version of firefox its a biggie one
[12:32] <hjmf> yes it is :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> yep it is
[12:33] <gnomefreak> try uploding it on slow connection :(
[12:33] <AlexLatchford> hours of fun!
[12:33] <hjmf> lol
[12:33] <gnomefreak> 1hour 33 minutes left
[12:33] <gnomefreak> uploading it now
[12:33] <hjmf> maybe you can compile|upload through a pipe :)
[12:33] <gnomefreak> than the fun begins
[12:34] <shirish> yup although I am downloading it at at 30 KBps which is fast in my country, India
[12:34] <gnomefreak> never though of that
[12:34] <hjmf> would be impossible I guess :)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> shirish: im normally download 26kbps on dsl-lite
[12:34] <gnomefreak> image what i get on upload
[12:35] <gnomefreak> brb coffee
[12:35] <shirish> same here, 1/4th of upload, the only salvation is its unlimited
[12:35] <shirish> sure
[12:35] <shirish> hjmf: till our beloved friend comes back, perhaps u could tell me about the apport-unpack thing
[12:35] <hjmf> then I'm the lucky one 3000kbps
[12:35] <shirish> WOWEEEEEEEEe
[12:35] <AlexLatchford> I am on 8meg :)
[12:36] <shirish> guys dont make me jealous right nwo
[12:36] <shirish> now
[12:36] <hjmf> shirish: just type:
[12:36] <hjmf> apport-unpack /path/to/crashreport /tmp/unpack
[12:36] <hjmf> that will unpack it
[12:37] <shirish> hjmf: ok on it
[12:37] <hjmf> then the coredump will be located at /tmp/unpack
[12:38] <hjmf> once the firefox-dbg is installed
[12:38] <hjmf> you have to run...
[12:38] <hjmf> gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -c CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log
[12:39] <hjmf> when you'll be at that point ping me
[12:40] <shirish> hjmf: wait a moment please
[12:40] <hjmf> k
[12:40] <asac> hi all
[12:41] <shirish> the firefox-dbg package which I am downloading is from mains, it needs to be from martin repository or this one is ok
[12:41] <shirish> hi asac
[12:41] <asac> gnomefreak: how is your archive doing?
[12:42] <asac> should i start to setup sync stuff?
[12:42] <hjmf> hi asac
[12:42] <shirish> debhttp://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebsfeistymainrestricteduniversemultiverse this one or the one I already have in the mains, in case this is no good I will just un-install it and do it from that repository
[12:42] <hjmf> I tried that stuff on  calling DumpJSStack() with no results
[12:42] <hjmf> ... but I'm the noob :)
[12:42] <shirish> asac: gnomefreak has gone for coffee
[12:43] <asac> hjmf: what happened?
[12:43] <asac> shirish: ah thx
[12:43] <hjmf> let me a second ...
[12:43] <shirish> sure
[12:45] <shirish> asac: have u done apport-retrace also?
[12:45] <asac> only a little :)
[12:46] <asac> hmmm anyone else saw the "Firefox restart required" notification on last upgrade though firefox was not running?
[12:46] <shirish> nope when was this?
[12:47] <asac> today ;)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> asac: i found the problem (not yet sure what to do to fix it maybe a different gpg command to sign release file) im uploading the rest of fx 3 and all iceape stuff
[12:47] <shirish> I have 2.0.0.3+1-0ubuntu2 what about yours?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> asac: no
[12:48] <asac> bug 102684
[12:48] <ubotu> Malone bug 102684 in firefox "Don't ask me to restart Firefox when it's not running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/102684
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i didnt get that page
[12:48] <shirish> gnomefreak: glad you are back, the firefox-dbg package is to be taken from the main repository, right?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> oh that
[12:48] <gnomefreak> shirish: yes
[12:48] <shirish> ok then I am on right track
[12:48] <asac> gnomefreak: if you are done, i will try
[12:49] <gnomefreak> no where near done. i am only one firefox-trunk-dbg  should be least of firefox-trunk packages
[12:49] <shirish> asac: go right ahead, mine is very small query
[12:50] <hjmf> ... back again, sorry
[12:50] <hjmf> asac: No symbol "DumpJSStack" in current context.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> i need 4hours or so to do iceape and finish rebuilding the .gz and updating the release file. as long as i dont upload the release.gpg we are fine
[12:50] <hjmf> not sure what should be the right context
[12:51] <hjmf> I've played a bit with gdb but with no succeed
[12:51] <hjmf> ... till the point to crash the whole system :)
[12:52] <asac> hjmf: oh :)
[12:52] <hjmf> don't want to know how, sure
[12:52] <asac> hjmf: what was the stack?
[12:52] <asac> ... the bug?
[12:52] <hjmf> bug 91584
[12:52] <ubotu> Malone bug 91584 in firefox "MASTER firefox crash [@nsHTMLDocument::GetElementById]  [@XPTC_InvokeByIndex] " [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91584
[12:53] <hjmf> I've tried with other cores from JS_stuff stacks too
[12:53] <hjmf> same succeed
[12:53] <asac> hmm ... so DumpJSStack is not found?
[12:54] <shirish> gnomefreak: are u also building the FF 3.0a2/3 packages?
[12:55] <hjmf> no, maybe there you should enable some flag at compiling time
[12:55] <gnomefreak> i think its a2
[12:55] <gnomefreak> asac: 2.99+2 is alpha 2 right?
[12:55] <asac> hjmf: ok
[12:56] <asac> hjmf: its just available in debug builds :/
[12:56] <gnomefreak> shirish: but yes im building 3.0 series
[12:56] <hjmf> ok
[12:56] <shirish> gnomefreak: cool, and this will be in feisty or the next one after feisty will be released?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> right now not sure if feisty+1
[12:57] <asac> hjmf: is xpc_DumpJSStack ... available?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> shirish: nothing will be in feisty thats not there already
[12:57] <asac> gnomefreak: no the +2 has nothing to do with that :)
[12:57] <shirish> drats lol :P
[12:57] <hjmf> No symbol "xpc_DumpJSStack" in current context.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> iceape == feisty+1 (unless issues)
[12:58] <hjmf> I remember something about ns....::DebugDumpJSStack
[12:58] <shirish> gnomefreak: is that the official name given by mozilla to firefox 3, iceape?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> asac: than what build is 20070404? i know thats the date but do you know what alpha it is?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> no
[12:58] <hjmf> that worked somehow
[12:58] <gnomefreak> iceape == seamonkey
[12:58] <shirish> or the debian iceweasel thing?
[12:58] <hjmf> just I cant find it now
[12:58] <shirish> gnomefreak: seamonkey is a suite is not it?
[12:58] <asac> gnomefreak: its not a real alpha ... most close is alpha 4 iirc
[12:59] <gnomefreak> shirish: yes
[12:59] <gnomefreak> asac: ah ok
[12:59] <shirish> gnomefreak: that is a big deal then woops
[12:59] <hjmf> (gdb) call nsXPConnect::DebugDumpJSStack
[12:59] <hjmf> $1 = (nsresult ( nsXPConnect::&)) nsXPConnect::nsSupportsWeakReference + 16 bytes
[12:59] <gnomefreak>  we double team fx3 :)
[12:59] <hjmf> but not sure at all what that means
[12:59] <hjmf> :)
[01:00] <asac> hjmf: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5893
[01:00] <asac> so the symbol should exist ... but it does nothing for non-debug builds :(
[01:00] <shirish> hjmf: its downloaded, just didnt know it was just debugging libraries that were being downloaded, neat
[01:00] <asac> so i guess we cannot get a JSStack dump without reproducing this
[01:01] <gnomefreak> asac: next time you speak with upstream can you kick them hard for me for not having tb2 done :( j/k
[01:01] <asac> gnomefreak: hehe :)
[01:01] <hjmf> shirish: now run
[01:01] <asac> gnomefreak: i think they already slaughter themselves about that ... so need for us to do that :)
[01:01] <gnomefreak> true
[01:02] <gnomefreak> i was hoping to keep ff and tb upgraded the same
[01:02] <hjmf> gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -c CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log
[01:02] <shirish>  gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log
[01:02] <shirish> GNU gdb 6.6-debian
[01:02] <shirish> Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[01:02] <shirish> GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
[01:02] <shirish> welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
[01:02] <shirish> Type "show copying" to see the conditions.
[01:02] <shirish> There is absolutely no warranty for GDB.  Type "show warranty" for details.
[01:02] <shirish> This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"...
[01:02] <shirish> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[01:02] <shirish> /home/shirish/CoreDump: No such file or directory.
[01:02] <shirish> (gdb)
[01:02] <shirish> sorry for that
[01:02] <asac> 13:02 < shirish> /home/shirish/CoreDump: No such file or directory.
[01:02] <asac> -> thats the problem :)
[01:03] <hjmf> in the directory were is the coredump or provide a path
[01:03] <hjmf> to it ;)
[01:03] <gnomefreak> did you unpack the bin log?
[01:03] <shirish> gnomefreak: are u asking me?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:03] <asac> @schedule berlin
[01:03] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 05 Apr 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 22:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 22:00: Forum Council
[01:03] <shirish> how do I know if I unpacked the bin log or not?
[01:04] <shirish> also guys how do I get out of the gdb prompt, exit does not work
[01:04] <gnomefreak> hjmf: did he unpack the crash report?
[01:04] <hjmf> shirish: apport-unpack /path/to/crashreport /tmp/unpack
[01:04] <gnomefreak> shirish: quit
[01:04] <hjmf> cd /tmp/unpack
[01:05] <hjmf> :)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> yay my show is on tonight :)
[01:07] <hjmf> your show?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> "are you smarter than a 5th grader"
[01:07] <gnomefreak> brb coffee + smoke
[01:07] <hjmf> not known here
[01:08] <hjmf> shirish: at what point are you?
[01:30] <shirish> sorry guys lights had gone out
[01:31] <shirish> hjmf: u there?
[01:31] <shirish> gnomefreak: u there?
[01:31] <hjmf> yes
[01:31] <hjmf> :)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> yep
[01:32] <hjmf> shirish: follow the script in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs?highlight=%28CategoryMozillaTeam%29#head-523978f1f3009b1b57ef020d5e3ff8674e737f41
[01:33] <shirish> hi hj just went to /tmp/unpack & doing the gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log now
[01:33] <hjmf> once you are in gdb
[01:33] <hjmf> ok
[01:33] <hjmf> then type
[01:33] <hjmf> backtrace full
[01:34] <shirish> did the gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core CoreDump 2>&1 | tee gdb.log
[01:34] <hjmf> thread apply all backtrace
[01:34] <shirish> I am in /tmp/unpack
[01:34] <hjmf> ok
[01:34] <shirish> wait
[01:34] <hjmf> you are at gdb prompt
[01:34] <shirish> yup
[01:34] <hjmf> type
[01:34] <hjmf> backtrace full
[01:34] <hjmf> and
[01:34] <shirish> hjmf: listen
[01:34] <hjmf> thread apply all backtrace
[01:35] <shirish> I have something here, can u listen
[01:35] <shirish> it shows Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
[01:35] <shirish> #0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
[01:35] <hjmf> that's ok
[01:35] <shirish> ok col
[01:35] <hjmf> typing backtrace full
[01:35] <hjmf> you'll see a dump of code
[01:36] <shirish> backtrace full should be before or after thread apply all backtrace?
[01:37] <hjmf> better before , but don't mind
[01:37] <hjmf> we'll strip later
[01:37] <shirish> ok now it should be thread apply all backtrace right?
[01:37] <hjmf> yes
[01:38] <shirish> ok done
[01:38] <hjmf> that's all, type quit
[01:38] <shirish> done
[01:38] <hjmf> and upload the gdb.log file to your bug thread :)
[01:38] <hjmf> thank you :)
[01:39] <shirish> ok will do
[01:39] <shirish> just to reiterate the steps one more time
[01:39] <hjmf> I'll review the log and I'll tell you if there is something missing
[01:39] <shirish> first unpack the .crash to /tmp/unpack or any othe dire
[01:39] <shirish> ok cool
[01:40] <shirish> will have to wait for few moments, ill get back to u shortly
[01:40] <hjmf> k
[01:41] <gnomefreak> hjmf: i think we need to simplfiy the instructions on that wiki about using dump for gdb
[01:41] <shirish> gnomefreak: yup the more simple the instructions are, the more people will use them
[01:42] <gnomefreak> last time i looked at it it was a bit hard to follow for new users
[01:42] <hjmf> I think we can add  -x 'gdb command1' -x 'gdb command2' to the script
[01:42] <hjmf> so it will be copy and paste
[01:42] <gnomefreak> i havent seen it since it was first written
[01:42] <hjmf> by me?
[01:42] <hjmf> or before
[01:42] <hjmf> ?
[01:43] <asac> gnomefreak: you already have an apr 5 trunk build :-P ... so i can try upgrade again?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> thats what im looking for is a simple copy and paste so the user doesnt have to think.
[01:43] <gnomefreak> asac: of course i do :(
[01:44] <gnomefreak> maybe go with the 6th build?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> its pretty much the best part of a day to build and upload(including source)
[01:44] <hjmf> I'll test a cp&paste script here and later I'll upload to the wiki (after lunch)
[01:44] <shirish> uploaded it now to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/102654
[01:44] <ubotu> Malone bug 102654 in firefox "firefox crashed " [Undecided,Needs info] 
[01:44] <gnomefreak> once we get people using it than every build maybe more usful?
[01:45] <asac> gnomefreak: i was just joking ... i think once a week is more than enough
[01:45] <asac> i just thought you would get more used to the procedure ;)
[01:45] <gnomefreak> asac: thank you ;)
[01:45] <hjmf> shirish: I'll look at it
[01:45] <gnomefreak> once iceape is uploading its not too big a deal
[01:45] <asac> gnomefreak: actually i wanted to try if repo is fine ... e.g. if auto upgrade works
[01:45] <shirish> hjmf:  ok cool, be waiting for your input
[01:46] <gnomefreak> asac: if you upgrade it for the 6th than i will get on it
[01:46] <shirish> gnomefreak: I do have some suggestions as a rank newbie
[01:46] <asac> me ... upgrade? you just need to change changelog :)
[01:46] <shirish> gnomefreak: if you are interested for changing that wiki page
[01:46] <gnomefreak> asac: anytime after iceape is done uploading i dont mind it
[01:46] <asac> sure :)
[01:46] <gnomefreak> asac: you have to put it in bzr no?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> shirish: not yet im kind of tied up as you can see ;)
[01:47] <hjmf> shirish: every thing looks fine
[01:47] <asac> gnomefreak: ... only if any real things change
[01:47] <shirish> ok, cool :P
[01:48] <hjmf> shirish: sad to say that the cash seems to be caused by /home/shirish/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[01:48] <gnomefreak> asac: sounds good
[01:48] <hjmf> which is a third party closed source addon
[01:48] <asac> shirish: use ubuntu package ... don't install flashplayer by hand
[01:48] <shirish> hjmf: know that
[01:48] <gnomefreak> little trival things are useless to build every day
[01:48] <hjmf> shirish: follow asac's hint
[01:48] <hjmf> :)
[01:48] <shirish> there is a ubuntu package or u mean swfdec package?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> asac: is there a way to diable that in firefox?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> or is that hardcoded
[01:49] <asac> gnomefreak: disable what?
[01:49] <hjmf> apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[01:49] <hjmf> shirish: ^^
[01:49] <gnomefreak> asac: visit a site needing flash it askd to install it
[01:49] <hjmf> see you later
[01:49] <asac> gnomefreak: yes right. currently its not that easy
[01:50] <gnomefreak> asac: that is flash upstream (we cant do crap with it but either way i guess it doesnt matter can really do much with flashplugin-nonfree either
[01:50] <asac> my idea is to build a "distributor" extension, that allows add package management to extension dialog
[01:50] <shirish> gnomefreak: yup that is what I did, later came to know that there is a swfdec open-source package also
[01:50] <asac> gnomefreak: and takes care that you get proper hints if there are ubuntu packages available
[01:50] <asac> but i have to write spec for that and get assignment
[01:50] <gnomefreak> asac: thats a good idea
[01:51] <gnomefreak> feisty+1 as a goal? or feisty+2?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling that is gonna be a long week (making that)
[01:52] <asac> depends :) on what happens in sevilla ... i hope to get at least an initial version of "distributor" extension for feisty+1
[01:52] <shirish> gnomefreak: could it be made so that http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ is part of the mozilla package?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> sevilla?
[01:53] <asac> gnomefreak: yes ... beginning of march we have UDS
[01:53] <asac> may
[01:53] <asac> :)
[01:53] <gnomefreak> ill look but asac would have to make final ack on that
[01:53] <gnomefreak> wher eis it?
[01:53] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-Sevilla
[01:53] <gnomefreak> paris?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> why dont they ever come close to me :(
[01:54] <asac> gnomefreak: hey ... in Sevilla :)
[01:54] <asac> where are you?
[01:54] <asac> next time it will be bosten/cambridge
[01:54] <asac> boston
[01:54] <gnomefreak> north carolina US
[01:54] <asac> that should be close :)
[01:54] <gnomefreak> thats getting closer
[01:54] <gnomefreak> still a 18+ hour drive
[01:55] <asac> 1000 miles?
[01:55] <gnomefreak> give or take
[01:56] <asac> hjmf: you are not member of QA team?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> shirish: i wish there was more info on it but i think that isnt a bad idea. asac what do you think about http://swfdec.freedesktop.org/wiki/ in ubuntu
[01:56] <asac> gnomefreak: we have that ... haven't we?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> thought he was
[01:57] <gnomefreak> asac: you ask me like i would know :(
[01:57] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:57] <asac> asac@hector:~/ubuntu/firefox_pkg/firefox-2.x/debian$ apt-cache search swfdec
[01:57] <asac> gstreamer0.8-swfdec - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder plugin for GStreamer
[01:57] <asac> libswfdec0.3 - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library
[01:57] <asac> libswfdec0.3-dev - SWF (Macromedia Flash) decoder library
[01:57] <asac> swf-player - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash)
[01:57] <gnomefreak> shirish: we have it already
[01:58] <asac> swfdec developer will be in sevilla ... coincidentially he is from hamburg/germany (my hometown)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> i knew we had swf-player
[01:58] <gnomefreak> wasnt sure abou tthe decoder
[01:58] <asac> so whats the different between swfdec and gnash?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> cool
[01:58] <shirish> gnomefreak:  if we do have that then why is not that in main or something, that will remove lot of crashes which we cannot do about anything
[01:59] <gnomefreak> gnash works like crap?
[01:59] <asac> actually i use gnash :)
[01:59] <asac> works more or less well
[01:59] <gnomefreak> shirish: because flash stuff cant be added to main
[01:59] <asac> often its borked
[01:59] <gnomefreak> shirish: its nonfree
[01:59] <asac> but as i have no choice (amd64) ... its better than nothing
[01:59] <shirish> gnomefreak: I meant the swfdec library or gnash that could be in main
[01:59] <asac> shirish: e.g. we cannot build it on our own for amd64 for instance
[01:59] <gnomefreak> true
[01:59] <asac> shirish: both are
[02:00] <shirish> gnomefreak: or you mean its a non-free format?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> shirish: yes its restricted
[02:00] <gnomefreak> gnash is open i believe
[02:00] <shirish> gnomefreak: I believe both swfdec as well as gnash are open
[02:01] <shirish> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swfdec
[02:01] <asac> shirish: we have both
[02:01] <asac> so whats the point?
[02:02] <shirish> asac: then it should somehow be hinted to the user that do not use flash-plugin non-free but instead use either gnash or swfdec
[02:02] <gnomefreak> asac: he wants them in main
[02:02] <asac> ah ok ... let me see
[02:02] <gnomefreak> doesnt that fit into the easy codec installation?
[02:02] <shirish> of if even not in main but then a pointer should be given to the user otherwise he is going to install the non-free plugin
[02:03] <shirish> yup it should
[02:03] <asac> i think the point is that both are not yet stable enough
[02:03] <asac> hopefully in feisty+1 we can move one of them to main
[02:03] <asac> gnomefreak: you should use it :) ... all users/testers help a lot
[02:04] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont know how to use the easy-codec install
[02:04] <shirish> gnomefreak: asac: now a question, is there a way I can remove the flash plugin without breaking my FF?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ;)
[02:04] <asac> shirish: yes
[02:04] <asac> just remove things from .mozilla/plugins
[02:04] <asac> all files that have flash in their name
[02:04] <gnomefreak> shirish: sure but it wont play flash
[02:04] <asac> after that install gnash
[02:04] <asac> :)
[02:05] <gnomefreak> flashplayer.so is the important one iirc
[02:05] <asac> ther ist libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt afaik .
[02:05] <asac> both need to be removed
[02:05] <shirish>  removed
[02:05] <shirish> anybody knows what .DS_Store is about?
[02:06] <asac> i saw that ... but can't tell
[02:06] <asac> shirish: can you try both: gnash and swf-player
[02:06] <asac> and tell me what works better :)
[02:07] <shirish> asac: ok will do, install one for some days then install the second for some days or there is way to use both?
[02:08] <asac> not that i know
[02:08] <gnomefreak> i would do the former. use 1 for a week use 2nd for a week
[02:08] <gnomefreak> unless you do alot of flash that maybe 3 days
[02:09] <shirish> gnomefreak:  nope just sometimes, if it breaks good, atleast i can give a good gdb.log now ;)
[02:09] <shirish> correction, call that usable gdb.log now
[02:09] <asac> hmm swf-player is not properly detected by ffox2
[02:10] <gnomefreak> usable == good in some cases
[02:10] <gnomefreak> asac: its stand aloe
[02:10] <gnomefreak> alone isnt it?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> right click file and play in it after you download it
[02:10] <asac> no there is a plugin as well
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:11] <asac> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libswfdecmozilla.so
[02:11] <asac> its not installed in right place
[02:11] <asac> probably its really outdated in universe
[02:11] <gnomefreak> swf-player - Mozilla plugin for SWF files (Macromedia Flash)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm thought it was stand-alone
[02:12] <asac> also its build against xulrunner ... which might caus problems as xulrunner ist still old mozilla branch
[02:12] <gnomefreak> 0.3.6-2.1
[02:12] <asac> so for feisty I guess only gnash is an alternative
[02:12] <gnomefreak> they should have caught that early in feisty
[02:12] <asac> yeah ... probably we should have caught that
[02:13] <shirish> drats, which means I would have to uninstall it all over again, no issues , asac would u file that bug, I would subscribe to it
[02:13] <gnomefreak> asac: we werent around iirc
[02:13] <asac> gnomefreak: right
[02:13] <gnomefreak> asac: but ian gave up on mozilla afaik early in release
[02:13] <asac> shirish: can you file a bug ... after you verified that swf-player really doesn't work?
[02:14] <shirish> ok will do that :)
[02:14] <asac> shirish: great :) ... subscribe me and i will take care that we at least get some decision
[02:14] <asac> but first verify that it doesn't work for you as well :)
[02:15] <shirish> would do that, btw your name on launchpad is also asac?
[02:17] <shirish> lol guys do u know there is a package called  Accepted toilet 0.1-2 in ubuntu-installer
[02:17] <asac> shirish: yes asac
[02:18] <asac> rofl
[02:18] <shirish> ok cool, so now I know where to find you :)
[02:18] <asac> shirish: cu around :)
[02:18] <asac> now that you know how to retrace ... :)
[02:18] <shirish> oops the name of the package itself is toilet, its just accept
[02:19] <asac> ... Ubuntu 7.04 frozen for release candidate preparation
[02:19] <asac> good
[02:19] <asac> lets go to holiday then :)
[02:19] <shirish> asac: true, but will have to build that chroot environment in-case my crash files are big
[02:20] <shirish> and the pakage is something like openoffice.org whose debug version would be a big big one
[02:20] <shirish> thankfully no big crash logs till now, except for firefox
[02:20] <asac> yes ... retracing locally is most recommended. But most users just can't so we do it for them :)
[02:21] <gnomefreak> oops
[02:21] <gnomefreak> eh ill get to them today or tomorrow
[02:22] <shirish> gnomefreak: if you will be editing the wiki see if you can edit stuff in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for feisty users also
[02:26] <gnomefreak> the chroot wiki is fine. i have 5 set up
[02:27] <shirish> ok cool, are u known as gnomefreak on launchpad also?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> when i set up my feisty chroot it spit out errors but works fine
[02:27] <gnomefreak> shirish: yep
[02:27] <gnomefreak> all too well :(
[02:28] <shirish> gnomefreak: I am known in a similar way, slave to gnome although have been getting attracted to xfce also
[02:28] <gnomefreak> https://beta.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak
[02:28] <shirish> time to file a bug
[02:28] <gnomefreak> if your not using beta LP than take beta out of it
[02:29] <gnomefreak> font small hackergotchi huge :(
[02:30] <shirish> cool
[02:30] <shirish> now why did ur karma drop by 1k?
[02:31] <shirish> I am known as https://launchpad.net/~shirishag75
[02:31] <hjmf> asac: wrote <hjmf: you are not member of QA team?>
[02:31] <hjmf> no I'm not, why?
[02:31] <shirish> the baltix thing is a misnomer
[02:32] <asac> hjmf: maybe you should :)
[02:32] <asac> for instance you could tweak importance
[02:32] <hjmf> what are the requisites? if any
[02:32] <hjmf> looking
[02:32] <asac> no its not
[02:32] <asac> you just tell me
[02:32] <asac> i make it happen :)
[02:34] <shirish> asac: you are right, swf-player does not function omw to file a bug about it
[02:34] <asac> shirish: maybe there is a bug about it already
[02:34] <asac> just CC me on whatever you find/post :)
[02:34] <shirish> sure, will do
[02:34] <hjmf> asac: applied to QA
[02:35] <gnomefreak> karma dropped because i havent done anything on Lp in a few days4-7 days i think. ive been getting things ready for repo
[02:35] <asac> hjmf: good ... will take care
[02:35] <hjmf> asac: thanks
[02:38] <gnomefreak> hjmf: you might want to ping bdmurray if you dont here from him in a few hours about your QA (maybe a day)
[02:38] <gnomefreak> ill be back im going to cook and eat breakfast
[02:38] <hjmf> k
[02:42] <asac> gnomefreak: i pinged him
[02:45] <asac> gnomefreak: repo gives you super-karma ... which unfortunately is not tracked in lp
[02:45] <shirish> asac: you are now a proud subscriber to bug 103301 ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/swfdec0.3/+bug/103301
[02:45] <ubotu> Malone bug 103301 in swfdec0.3 "swf-player does not show flash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103301
[02:45] <asac> shirish: thanks
[02:47] <shirish> gnomefreak: are u able to track the bugs you are interested in, in the beta launchpad?
[02:49] <shirish> asac: after you have seen the bug tell me if something is missing or I covered it all
[02:49] <shirish> in 5 minutes, would be going to take a quick shower, it is summer here
[02:51] <hjmf> I've modify the wiki stuff about gdb. This must be easy as is just copy&paste
[02:51] <hjmf> TMPDIR=$(mktemp -d)
[02:51] <hjmf> apport-unpack _usr_lib_firefox_firefox-bin.1000.crash $TMPDIR
[02:51] <hjmf> gdb -nx /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -core $TMPDIR/CoreDump -ex 'backtrace full'  -ex 'thread apply all backtrace full' -ex 'quit' 2>&1 | tee gdb.log
[02:51] <hjmf> rm -fr $TMPDIR
[02:51] <hjmf> the user only needs to upload the gdb.log to launchpad
[02:52] <asac> looks good
[02:52] <asac> -dbg package installation as easy?
[02:53] <hjmf> yes that is already as a cp and paste too
[02:53] <asac> good
[02:53] <asac> next idea:
[02:53] <asac> how do we point users to those instructions?
[02:53] <asac> e.g. what text do we use?
[02:53] <hjmf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs
[02:53] <hjmf> ..section Obtain a backtrace from an apport crash report (using gdb)
[02:54] <hjmf> I still have to edit the responses wiki though
[02:57] <shirish> guys how do I get access to the beta site of launchpad?
[02:59] <shirish> ok applied for it, ok guys going for a fresh shower, it has been nice knowing you all :)
[03:02] <hjmf> wrote the responses wiki
[03:02] <hjmf> at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs/Triage/Responses#head-8405d4794c0643fabf667f91a3fcd14baa76ca7c
[03:02] <hjmf> tell me if that is enough clear
[03:03] <hjmf> (notice that I don't use sudo at all, so maybe will have to add to the apt-get entries
[03:03] <hjmf> :)
[03:06] <hjmf> afk
[03:31] <gnomefreak> well hopfully in an hour repo will be ready to use for time being. still cant use my Release.gpg or it gives that error about Release file
[03:39] <shirish> anybody there?
[03:39] <asac> here?
[03:39] <asac> not really ;)
[03:39] <shirish> hi asac, good u are here
[03:40] <shirish> ok where is my FF config file stored?
[03:42] <asac> in your profile directory
[03:44] <shirish> got it thnx
[03:45] <gnomefreak> someone answered him in another channel prior to you answering him
[03:48] <shirish> asac: do u have a moment?
[03:49] <asac> not much time atm
[03:49] <asac> you can ask
[03:49] <asac> i will answer when idle :)
[03:50] <shirish> I lost some libraries from /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[03:51] <gnomefreak> asac: ill ping you when everything is ready to test with repo. iceape and fx3 are in iceape.tar is uploading now
[03:51] <shirish> mainly libxul0d, libmoz0d, libnss3-0d, libnspr4-od, libxul-common
[03:51] <shirish> anybody knows how I can recover those libraries?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> install them :) restart firefox?
[03:52] <shirish> doing any apt-get remove firefox removes lot of stuff including ubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <shirish> gnomefreak: how do I install the libraries?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> shirish: never remove firefox
[03:52] <asac> shirish: uninstall all ... install again
[03:52] <asac> e.g. all packages that contain those files you removed
[03:52] <gnomefreak> it breaks alot of things
[03:53] <asac> shirish: try apt-get install --reinstall firefox
[03:53] <shirish> gnomefreak: asac: I have not removed firefox, just asking how I can re-install the libraries
[03:53] <asac> and so on
[03:53] <asac> use library package name instead
[03:53] <gnomefreak> shirish: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox :)
[03:54] <shirish> getting an error
[03:54] <gnomefreak> but you might need to grab libs seperatly
[03:54] <shirish> E: Command line option 'r' [from -reinstall]  is not known.
[03:54] <shirish> how do I grab the libs seperately?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> shirish: i didnt use -r
[03:55] <asac> use --reinstall not -reinstall
[03:55] <shirish> checked
[03:56] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install libxul0d and so on
[03:56] <shirish> nope that did not do anything
[03:57] <shirish> thanx gnomefreak
[03:57] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:01] <shirish> gnomefreak: although the plugins are installed but those plugins are not installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[04:01] <shirish> gnomefreak: I meant the libraries are installed but they are not installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[04:02] <gnomefreak> shirish: reinstall them. they should automaticly symlink to plugins (as far as i remember atleast)
[04:02] <shirish> gnomefreak: asac: can u guys check please if libxul0d is installed in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[04:03] <gnomefreak> brb calling doc.
[04:03] <asac> certainly not in plugins
[04:03] <asac> should be in /usr/lib/
[04:05] <shirish> asac: ok there they are
[04:05] <shirish> asac: have u been able to see in youtube using gnash?
[04:06] <shirish> for I get the same bug which I reported with swf-player, it says either javascript is off or using an old flash-player :(
[04:07] <shirish> any way to know if my javascript is turned off by any chance, missing library or something?
[04:08] <asac> probably not
[04:08] <asac> some in youtubte might work
[04:08] <asac> most will not
[04:10] <asac> i am gone till meeting
[04:10] <asac> @schedule
[04:10] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 05 Apr 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 20:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 20:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 20:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 20:00: Forum Council
[04:10] <asac> @schedule berlin
[04:10] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 05 Apr 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 22:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 22:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 22:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 22:00: Forum Council
[04:10] <asac> @now berlin
[04:10] <ubotu> Current time in Europe/Berlin: April 05 2007, 16:10:25 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 1 hour 49 minutes
[04:10] <shirish> yup youtube does not work, although we do have the latest gnash, now I wait for somebody to do something about swf-player
[04:10] <shirish> @now india
[04:14] <shirish> @now Calcutta
[04:14] <ubotu> Current time in Asia/Calcutta: April 05 2007, 19:44:22 - Next meeting: Ubuntu Development Team in 1 hour 45 minutes
[04:36] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[04:36] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 05 Apr 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 10 Apr 16:00: Technical Board | 11 Apr 16:00: Edubuntu | 12 Apr 16:00: MOTU | 12 Apr 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 13 Apr 16:00: Forum Council
[04:36] <gnomefreak> asac: devel meeting in 1 1/2 hours
[04:36] <gnomefreak> give or take
[04:44] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[04:48] <asac> yes, i will attend :)
[04:52] <gnomefreak> does the release file go in /feisty/ or in /mozilla-testing/
[04:53] <gnomefreak> theres an issue im trying to work out but it may just be domain is down
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Err http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com feisty/main iceape-calendar 1.1.1-3.mt0 404 Not Found
[04:53] <gnomefreak> Failed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[04:53] <gnomefreak> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> its there
[04:56] <gnomefreak> isnt the meeting in 1 hour?
[04:57] <asac> hmm
[04:57] <asac> let me try
[04:58] <asac> gnomefreak: you have to gen from within feisty dir
[04:58] <asac> not from within main
[04:58] <asac> apt-cache show iceape-calendar shows
[04:58] <asac> Filename: binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb
[04:58] <asac> which should be
[04:59] <asac> main/binary-i386//iceape-calendar_1.1.1-3.mt0_i386.deb
[04:59] <asac> hjmf: you are in QA
[04:59] <hjmf> oh thanks :)
[04:59] <asac> yw
[05:00] <hjmf> so I can decide bug importance now .... hmm :)
[05:01] <asac> yeah ... no excuse to keep crashers undecided
[05:01] <asac> they are high for now
[05:01] <asac> as we lack proper categorization policy for now
[05:01] <hjmf> all crashes = high --- OK
[05:01] <asac> however i think that plugin crashers that are due to nonfree will become low
[05:01] <asac> yes for now
[05:02] <hjmf> k
[05:03] <hjmf> lets do some evening triaging
[05:04] <gnomefreak> asac: how do i change that? the repo itself(way its named in sources.list)
[05:05] <asac> meeting started :)
[05:05] <gnomefreak> maybe put Release file in a different dir. instead of /mozilla-testing/dist/feisty/ ?
[05:05] <gnomefreak> i see
[05:05] <asac> you run dpkg-scan* from within feisty
[05:05] <asac> not from within feisty/main
[05:05] <gnomefreak> ok
[05:05] <gnomefreak> will do ill let you know
[05:09] <gnomefreak> and run cat header >> Release; apt-ftparchive release . >> Release in mozilla/dists/feisty and leave it there?
[05:18] <asac> i think so yes
[05:18] <asac> like where you did it before
[05:18] <gnomefreak> doesnt help it
[05:18] <asac> Release.gog was right afaik
[05:18] <asac> gpg
[05:18] <gnomefreak> asac: it was causing failure
[05:18] <gnomefreak> so i left it out
[05:18] <asac> important is to regen Packages.gz and Release.gz
[05:18] <asac> aeh
[05:18] <asac> Sources.gz
[05:18] <asac> i mean
[05:18] <gnomefreak> done
[05:20] <gnomefreak> with Release.gpg you get Failed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[05:20] <gnomefreak> Reading package lists... Done
[05:20] <gnomefreak> without it you get the other error
[05:21] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386  i dont understand why it wants // after i-386
[05:22] <gnomefreak> finish the meeting ill be around when your done if you have time
[05:28] <asac> bug 58503
[05:28] <ubotu> Malone bug 58503 in usplash "No response to keyboard input at prompt after ejecting CD-ROM" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/58503
[05:33] <gnomefreak> problem is the way the Packages.gz is being made its listing them as Filename: main/binary-i386//firefox-trunk-dbg_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb (notice the 2//) not real sure how to change that other than changing it by hand and rezipping it and moving back (i might try this just to see if it works)
[05:39] <asac> the two // don't hurt
[05:39] <asac> but you can prevent it by not passing trailing / on dpkg-scan*
[05:46] <gnomefreak> it doesnt fix it
[05:46] <gnomefreak> if the domain was down i couldnt ssh into it
[05:54] <gnomefreak> asac: ok im updating my feisty atm im gonna go for a while if you think of anything please let me know.  heres the link so you can browse around looking at things if you want. http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/  my head has been hurting for >= 1week and doc cant get me in till monday so these breaks are a bit helpful for me lately, just ping me if you have somehting ill answer when im back
[05:55] <asac> take your time
[05:55] <asac> we can sort this out through easter day
[06:09] <asac> ok
[06:09] <asac> back for a while
[06:09] <asac> will go to holidays soon
[06:09] <asac> will be hear in the european evening throughout weekend
[06:10] <asac> s/hear/here/
[06:10] <asac> gnomefreak: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/Release
[06:10] <asac> 1st: contains the Release file from top-level itself (wrong)
[06:11] <asac> packages.gz and sources.gz look good
[06:11] <asac> i guess you only have to fix top-level Release file
[06:11] <asac> then sign
[06:11] <asac> done
[06:12] <asac> apt-get update worked well
[06:12] <asac> so i guess just signing release file should do the trick
[06:14] <gnomefreak> regen Release and put it in mozilla-testing right?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> and sign it
[06:14] <gnomefreak> still wont fix the problem though
[06:15] <gnomefreak> ok nap time ill try it again when i get up.
[06:15] <asac> which problem?
[06:15] <gnomefreak> the 404 error and if i sign it you will get the error we got yesterday
[06:16] <gnomefreak> also failed to fetch
[06:17] <gnomefreak> signing Release and uploading Release.gpg was causing the errors yesterday on apt-get update. generating the release in toplevel you will get same error as you do now when you go to install an app.
[06:18] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe try to gen from mozilla-testing dir
[06:18] <asac> e.g. packages.gz
[06:18] <asac> and sources.gz
[06:18] <asac> so you get full path: dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/....deb
[06:18] <asac> on apt-cache show firefox-trunk
[06:18] <gnomefreak> ok ill try it and re do the release(.*) and let you know if your around later today
[06:18] <asac> no i get main/binary-i386/....deb
[06:19] <asac> and i fail like
[06:19] <asac> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/main/binary-i386//firefox-trunk_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb
[06:19] <gnomefreak>  main/binary-i386/firefox-trunk_2.99+2cvs20070404-0ubuntu0_i386.deb
[06:19] <asac> so we miss dists/feisty
[06:19] <asac> in there
[06:19] <asac> so regen packages when being in mozilla-testing
[06:19] <asac> same for sources
[06:19] <gnomefreak> ok so gen the Sources.gz and Packages.gz from toplevel dir.
[06:20] <asac> yes
[06:20] <asac> give it a try
[06:20] <gnomefreak> ok will do later adn we will see
[08:07] <AlexLatchford> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/launchpad/+spec/advanced-stylesheet/
[08:07] <AlexLatchford> For anyone thats interested
[09:38] <gnomefreak> god i hope this works
[09:45] <gnomefreak> asac: its fixed for time being im about to try and break it again ;)
[09:46] <gnomefreak> YAY repo is working :)
[10:56] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah downloads
[10:56] <asac> good work
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ty :)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> now i just have to figure out what to do with gnomefreak.asc before i write up the testing memo
[10:57] <asac> gnomefreak: now automatize ;)
[10:57] <gnomefreak> omg
[10:57] <gnomefreak> that sounds hard
[10:57] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:58] <asac> i pasted a good link yesterday
[10:58] <asac> try to find it :)
[10:58] <gnomefreak> try to find something you pasted? on what domain?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:58] <asac> search for apt-key
[10:58] <asac> hand gpg in history
[10:58] <asac> of this channel :)
[10:59] <gnomefreak> ok ill look after dinner i have logs i can grep through
[10:59] <gnomefreak> bbs going to eat :)
[10:59] <asac> cool i have logs
[10:59] <asac> irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:45 < asac> gpg --armor --export 4F368D5D | sudo apt-key add -
[10:59] <asac> irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:47 < asac> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A  |  apt-key add -
[10:59] <asac> irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:19:59 < gnomefreak> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A  |  apt-key add -  fails
[10:59] <asac> irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:20:00 < asac> you have to run apt-key as root
[10:59] <asac> irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-04:20:00 < asac> gpg --armor --export 3C1C3C2A  |  sudo apt-key add -
[10:59] <asac> irclogs/ubuntu-mozilla-2007-04-05:22:58 < asac> search for apt-key
[10:59] <asac> before that
[10:59] <asac> you have to use gpg --import gnomefreak.asc i guess
[10:59] <asac> e.g. just
[11:00] <asac> cat gnomefreak | gpg --import
[11:00] <gnomefreak> i already have the public key and the gnomefreak.asc
[11:00] <asac> gpg --armor --export <yourkeyid> | sudo apt-key add -
[11:00] <asac> i mean for you instructions
[11:00] <asac> you should try if that works
[11:00] <asac> ok i am away again ... my back hurts a bit
[11:01] <gnomefreak> k talk to you later
[11:33] <gnomefreak> oh wth
[11:34] <gnomefreak> ill deal with it tomorrow maybe. but i have everything and everything looks right
[12:17] <gnomefreak> asac: the tb2 source is a tar.gz or tar.bz2?