[12:38] <teslasnp> hello, just wondering if anyone has any good recommendations for an acpi management, or display
[12:41] <teslasnp> no one alive in here, huh
[01:07] <zachtib> hey, after a commandline ubuntu install of feisty, what package can i install to get just the core Xfce desktop environment?
[01:17] <Qew> zachtib: xubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <Qew> it's a meta package that'll pull in the needed Xfce packages
[01:17] <zachtib> i don't want the whole thing though, I want to pick and choose applications] 
[01:18] <zachtib> it looks like xfce4 is the package i want
[01:46] <bigfuzzyjesus> zachtib, yep thats the one
[01:47] <bur[n] er> zachtib, you're my hero for deluge :)
[01:49] <zachtib> bur[n] er: :D
[01:49] <bur[n] er> anyone know if gparted is going to be on the xubuntu feisty release?  I notice it's not in ubuntu... which blows
[02:18] <Ge1> hi had a question about my screen resolution but i think i found the answer in the topic already :D
[03:16] <Freeza> where does xubuntu keep the config file for Login Window?
[03:17] <crdlb> Freeza, xubuntu uses gdm
[03:17] <Freeza> i added beryl-manager to the option there and now x wont start on normal login but i can do into it in failsafe but when i click on System - Login Window nothing happens
[03:18] <Freeza> where is the gdm config file?
[03:18] <crdlb> /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[03:19] <crdlb> Freeza, you added beryl-manager to your login window?
[03:19] <Freeza> yeah
[03:19] <Freeza> i couldnt find anywhere else to put it so i just added it to login window part
[03:19] <crdlb> why not just add it to your startup apps?
[03:19] <Freeza> but now system hangs on normal startup
[03:20] <Freeza> no idea where that was
[03:23] <Freeza> crap cant find it on that file
[05:48] <sigmamu188> !fstab
[05:48] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:59] <sigmamu188> !grub
[05:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:23] <nonuda_> can i install smb4k in xubuntu?
[07:35] <gerbil_juice> hello
[07:35] <gerbil_juice> i was wondering how to get widgets on my desktop like a clock and a performance monitor
[07:36] <gerbil_juice> using feisty
[07:36] <crdlb> gerbil_juice, try gdesklets or adesklets
[07:37] <crdlb> if you're running a compositor, you can use screenlets and cairo-clock
[07:37] <crdlb> conky is also nice
[07:38] <gerbil_juice> so do [sudo apt-get install gdesklets] ?
[07:38] <crdlb> !info gdesklets feisty
[07:38] <ubotu> gdesklets: Architecture for desktop applets. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.35.3-4ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 466 kB, installed size 2452 kB
[07:38] <crdlb> yep
[07:38] <crdlb> !info conky feisty
[07:38] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 123 kB, installed size 416 kB
[07:39] <crdlb> for a non-composited desktop, /me suggests those ^^
[07:39] <gerbil_juice> what do you mean by non-composited
[07:40] <gerbil_juice> i've got the display compositing enabled to make some things transparant
[07:43] <looping_> I have a problem with installing realplayer. Help please? :)
[07:45] <looping_> the installer won't launch because of a syntax error, have anyone had the same problem?
[07:51] <kumamoto> realplayer from synaptic or from realplayer's website?
[08:13] <brokenbin> when i was trying to install criawips presentations
[08:13] <brokenbin> it says that i have something conflicting wit hit
[08:13] <brokenbin> any idea?
[08:14] <Pumpernickel> Find out what's conflicting with it, and replace it if need be.
[08:14] <brokenbin> that's what i cant figure out
[08:15] <Pumpernickel> It should tell you, when it tries to install the conflicting package.
[08:17] <brokenbin> no
[08:17] <brokenbin> it doesn't say
[09:18] <lobby> what app i need to browse shared folder?
[09:20] <posingaspopular> lobby: shared... folders? what do you mean?
[09:26] <lobby> ok..how to open another computer in networking?
[09:27] <lobby> currentlu i have installed smb, but i don't know what application to use, in kubuntu i use konqueror
[09:27] <posingaspopular> pshh i am useless at that, sorry
[09:27] <lobby> ah..ok
[09:28] <MaxFrames> hello
[09:31] <posingaspopular> !welcome
[09:31] <ubotu> Hello and welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions or help others. If you'd like to chit-chat, please visit #xubuntu-offtopic and for developer discussion, see #xubuntu-devel :)
[09:32] <MaxFrames> will xubuntu 7 run reasonably fast on a PIII-733/128 MB RAM system?
[09:33] <MaxFrames> with v6 I get acceptable performances
[09:34] <posingaspopular> ummm 128 is the min. requirements
[09:34] <posingaspopular> ive only used v7 so i dont know though...
[10:29] <gunny01> MaxFrames: The sys reqs have not changed from 6.10 to 7.04
[10:51] <k^^> anyone know any good cloning tutorials? I would like to move my current xubuntu install onto a newer larger harddrive
[11:15] <kumamoto> k^^: tryed using dd
[11:18] <k^^> kumamoto: nope. I'm still new to linux so I need something specific to follow as a guide
[12:17] <Dedone> hi all
[12:17] <Dedone> someone could help me?
[12:18] <Dedone> i've a a problem with the last update of Xubuntu (also i'm a new user)
[12:19] <Dedone> after the last update i try to log in with the user and pass
[12:19] <Dedone> but the sytem doesn't allow to log me
[12:19] <Dedone> have the update reset my user and pass?
[01:23] <MaxFrames> hello again
[01:24] <MaxFrames> I have a problem with a Verbatim Store'n'Go USB pen drive not being recognized, can anyone help me?
[01:24] <MaxFrames> I also have a Kingston Migo USB pen drive, which is recognized
[01:25] <darrend_laptop> hi all.  Anyone using wireless (wpa) in xubuntu feisty?
[01:25] <darrend_laptop> I upgraded from edgy a couple of weeks back and wireless is totally broken.  Had it working really well in edgy
[01:25] <MaxFrames> the kingston appears under /media, and an icon appears on the desktop as well; when I insert the Verbatim, nothing happens
[02:34] <gsuveg> networkmanager works with xubuntu ?
[02:43] <Laibsch> darrend_laptop: Maybe you want to take a look at bug 62685
[02:43] <ubotu> Malone bug 62685 in linux-source-2.6.17 "[Edgy regression]  Hostap driver for PRISM2 wifi card not working any more" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/62685
[02:43] <Laibsch> There is a workaround on how to get things going again in there as well.
[02:45] <darrend_laptop> Laibsch: I've looked through a lot of bugs!  Including that one.  My problem appears to be with the automatic (or not as it happens) association to the AP.  I roam between many networks, and had this working great under edgy
[02:45] <darrend_laptop> used to be able to suspend in one place, open up in the next and associate immediately.  Now it can take up to 3 hours of trying before it will reassociate
[02:46] <darrend_laptop> no change to drivers or my wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:46] <Laibsch> well, then I don't know
[02:46] <Laibsch> I have my own problems unfortunately.
[02:47] <darrend_laptop> unfortunately, it seems that no-one else does either
[02:47] <darrend_laptop> what concerns me is that all the so called "solutions" to this are based on Network-Manager
[02:47] <Laibsch> Scanning is erratic.  Sometimes it returns errors and sometimes it works (unfortunately, seldom)
[02:47] <darrend_laptop> which I don't use since it needs 500MB of gnome libs and I want networking whether I have X running or not anyway
[02:48] <darrend_laptop> but something must have changed in the scripts (or possibly the wpa_supplicant package) between edgy and feisty to make this fail.  That's what I'm struggling to find info about
[02:49] <darrend_laptop> once I actually GET connected to the AP, it works absoultely fine, so no driver/hardware issues I think
[02:50] <darrend_laptop> (off for a quick reboot as I just updated another 150Mb of packages and want to see a clean restart with them) ;)
[03:07] <Merchelo> cool
[03:47] <Mgccl> hello guys
[03:48] <Mgccl> I'm installing Xubuntu and I'm in step 5, where it says the new partition size. I just wonder is the new partition size the old partition size resized or the new partition size created?
[03:53] <Merchelo> new partition size to be created
[03:56] <Mgccl> thx :)
[03:57] <Mgccl> humm it seems like it stoped after I clicked forward...
[03:57] <ToHellWithGA> i'm trying to use xfce + beryl+ heliodor and don't know what to run to configure metacity themes from within xfce.  anybody know which command i should run and/or file i should edit?
[04:37] <mago_oscuro> buenas
[04:37] <mago_oscuro> tardes
[04:48] <limetang> I just tried to install Xubuntu 7.04 Beta (alternate) and I got an isolinux disk error 80.
[04:48] <limetang> What does this mean?
[04:51] <hyper_ch> limetang: did you check the cd for defects?
[04:51] <hyper_ch> and for feisty I recommend the desktop cd
[04:52] <limetang> I'm unsure of whether my aging computer would cope with the desktop CD.
[04:53] <limetang> And it does that before doing anything.
[04:58] <Piet> hi. does the xubuntu 6.10 installer support partition encryption? if so, does it support dm-crypt + luks?
[04:59] <Piet> if not, is there a test stage xubuntu installer which does?
[05:09] <Piet> anyone awake? are my questions just silly or...?
[05:15] <hyper_ch> limetang: then it seems the burn was bad
[05:15] <hyper_ch> limetang: I just had problems with the partitioner in the alternate feisty cd... couldn't get it to work in herd4 and herd5
[05:16] <hyper_ch> Piet: you can install partition encryption later on... the installer itself does not provide that
[05:20] <Piet> hyper_ch: the 7.04 neither?
[05:22] <hyper_ch> Piet: I did not check for sure but I don't think it does
[05:22] <hyper_ch> you can easily test yourself, install vmware or virtualbox and have an install running... then you'll see
[05:24] <Piet> good point
[05:24] <hyper_ch> it would be nice if it came with true crypt
[05:24] <Piet> but i'm not sure it's woth wasting the bandwidth ;)
[05:25] <Piet> anyway, thanks for your help
[05:25] <hyper_ch> 700mb... doesn't take long to download
[05:25] <Piet> well, i think dmcrypt + luks is much better really
[05:26] <hyper_ch> how does dmcrypt and luks operate
[05:27] <Piet> i doubt anyone can explain that in three lines
[05:28] <hyper_ch> you can try
[05:47] <hyper_ch> !libdebian-installer.so.4
[05:53] <gerbil_juice> which would you suggest, gdesklets or adesklets
[06:02] <VxJasonxV> Can anyone tell me why Konqueror opens when I click on a link in Thunderbird?  Firefox is set as the preferred web browser in Settings -> Preferred Apps.
[06:03] <hyper_ch> VxJasonxV: isn't there a setting in TB?
[06:04] <VxJasonxV> I've been looking.  Not seeing yet, but looking
[06:04] <hyper_ch> no clue then
[06:06] <VxJasonxV> x-www-browser is the definition for network.protocol-handler.app.http and https
[06:06] <VxJasonxV> where that is defined is beyond me
[06:08] <Pumpernickel> VxJasonxV: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/set-the-default-browser-on-ubuntu-from-the-command-line/
[06:13] <VxJasonxV> Pumpernickel,
[06:13] <VxJasonxV> konq was selected :|
[06:13] <VxJasonxV> thanks
[06:18] <spasticteapot> Hello!
[06:19] <Merchelo> hello
[06:21] <spasticteapot> Any fun things I can do with Xubuntu I'm not doing?
[07:45] <kj0ttdeig> is it possible to make xubuntu use the screen resolution 1280x1024? everywhere i check, 1024x768 is the maximum, and editing xorg.conf doesn't help
[07:45] <Pumpernickel> What video card do you have?
[07:46] <Naughtyboy> and what kind of monitor ar you using..?
[07:47] <kj0ttdeig> sapphire radeon 9600se
[07:48] <kj0ttdeig> 1280x1024 works well in kubuntu and ubuntu on the very same hardware, but i prefer xubuntu
[07:52] <Pumpernickel> Could you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[07:52] <Pumpernickel> !paste
[07:52] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:53] <kj0ttdeig> sure
[07:55] <kj0ttdeig> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14053/
[08:02] <Pumpernickel> OK, you should only have to add the resolution in the "Screen" section and update the HorizSync and VertRefresh options in the "Monitor" section.
[08:03] <Pumpernickel> There's an online modeline calculator here for the second part: http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[08:03] <Pumpernickel> And if you don't have any wacom devices, you may as well remove the sections dealing with those.
[08:08] <kj0ttdeig> hmmm, i did the first part, but where should the modelines go?
[08:09] <Pumpernickel> It's just for the HorizSync and VertRefresh values.
[08:15] <kj0ttdeig> i see.. i've done it now, i guess i need to restart x-server!?
[08:16] <Pumpernickel> Yeah.
[08:16] <kj0ttdeig> i'll do that.. bbl.. thanks for your time :)
[08:16] <Pumpernickel> No problem.
[08:23] <kj0ttdeig> it works Pumpernickel .. thank you very much
[09:52] <Ezep> ho
[09:52] <Ezep> hi
[09:53] <Merchelo> hello.
[09:58] <Ezep> can i use xubuntu with 64ram and 233mhz?
[10:05] <Ezep> apt: hi
[10:06] <Ezep> can i use xubuntu with 64ram and 233mhz?
[10:07] <Pumpernickel> Yeah.
[10:07] <Merchelo> To run the Desktop CD (LiveCD + Install CD), you need 128 MB RAM to run or 192 MB RAM to install. The Alternate Install CD only required you to have 64 MB RAM.
[10:07] <Ezep> oh, so i must download the alternate install...
[10:09] <Ezep> ubuntu rock!
[10:25] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:27] <Merchelo> hi
[10:37] <Grey_Loki> Is there an easy way to undelete an entire directory of files and subdirs in 6.10?
[10:38] <Pumpernickel> Not really.
[10:39] <Pumpernickel> Was it an ext3 fs?
[10:41] <Grey_Loki> !ext3
[10:41] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[10:41] <Grey_Loki> Just gonna find a way to check :P
[10:41] <Pumpernickel> It's the default fs.
[10:41] <Grey_Loki> Well, I don't recall changing it.
[10:43] <Pumpernickel> Probably ext3, then.
[10:43] <Pumpernickel> In which case, you're facing this: http://tinyurl.com/yp79oz
[10:44] <slow-motion> n8
[10:44] <Grey_Loki> n8?
[10:45] <Grey_Loki> :S
[10:56] <darx> hi folks
[10:56] <darx> just installed the latest xubuntu and guess what, it seems that all propreitory drivers are installed by default?
[10:57] <darx> can someone confirm this
[10:57] <Merchelo> aye
[10:57] <darx> mp4, avi, mov etc works for me
[11:00] <darx> #ubuntu+1
[11:05] <freeza> does xfce have capabiities for widgets?
[11:06] <maxamillion> freeza: define widget ... it has many different meanings in different context
[11:06] <darx> freeza: i've seen people doing it.. but i guess they are gnome stuff
[11:06] <darx> not native
[11:06] <darx> i'm not sure though
[11:07] <brokenbin> when i am trying to install criawips presentation, i receive the following error message
[11:07] <brokenbin> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'criawips' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[11:07] <brokenbin> Switch to the advanced mode to resolve this conflict.
[11:07] <Grey_Loki> What's that command that allows you to take a screenshot from an xterm window?
[11:07] <Grey_Loki> Erm, command you input into an xterm window that allows you to take a screenshot of your entire screen's content.
[11:08] <freeza> talking widget like konfabulator type
[11:08] <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: scrot .... its not installed by default though
[11:08] <maxamillion> !info scrot | Grey_Loki
[11:08] <ubotu> grey_loki: scrot: command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-7 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[11:09] <Grey_Loki> Thanks, maxamillion
[11:09] <maxamillion> freeza: what is a konfabulator?
[11:09] <maxamillion> Grey_Loki: anytime :)
[11:09] <maxamillion> !botsnack
[11:09] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:09] <maxamillion> good bot
[11:09] <darx> freeza: its yahoo stuff and propreitory and closed
[11:09] <freeza> yeah i know
[11:09] <freeza> i was making an example of widget
[11:10] <freeza> another is like dashboard in osx
[11:10] <brokenbin> what conflicts with criawips?
[11:10] <darx> xfce can run a lot of widgets
[11:10] <darx> its just a matter of asking google or the formus
[11:10] <freeza> ahh ok
[11:10] <darx> i've seen a lot of people doing it.. but im not into that
[11:11] <maxamillion> freeza: oh, those are generally called desklets in linux and you can install either aDesklets or gDesklets (those are the two most popular)
[11:11] <darx> yup
[11:11] <freeza> ahh ok ill google those 2 thanks
[11:11] <darx> but takes up a lot of resources
[11:11] <Grey_Loki> gdesklets is what I use - very, very simple to set up and configure
[11:12] <darx> beats the purpose of xfce really
[11:12] <darx> anyway its preferance
[11:12] <darx> just my two cents
[11:12] <maxamillion> freeza: no problem
[11:15] <pirothezero> If I had dual monitor portrait mode how would I go about putting the xfc bar on the top and bottom and increase the size to span both monitors?
[11:16] <maxamillion> pirothezero: right click the panel and change "Full Width" to "Span Monitors" from the drop down menu
[11:17] <pirothezero> hmmm
[11:21] <brokenbin> maxamillion: can you help me with installing criawips?
[11:23] <brokenbin> maxamillion: there seems to be a conflict with something else
[11:23] <maxamillion> brokenbin: i can try
[11:23] <brokenbin> maxamillion: it says: This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'criawips' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[11:24] <maxamillion> brokenbin: it doesn't tell you what its conflicting with?
[11:24] <brokenbin> no
[11:24] <brokenbin> how can i find that out?
[11:24] <maxamillion> brokenbin: what application are you using to install it?
[11:25] <brokenbin> add/remove applications
[11:25] <brokenbin> maxamillion: let me try synaptic
[11:26] <maxamillion> brokenbin: yeah, try synaptic ... if not there, then we will be getting into the command line so brace yourself :)
[11:26] <brokenbin> criawips:
[11:26] <brokenbin>  Depends: libcriawips0 but it is not going to be installed
[11:26] <brokenbin>  Depends: libcriawipshelper0 but it is not going to be installed
[11:26] <brokenbin>  Depends: libdbus-1-2 (>=0.62) but it is not installable
[11:26] <brokenbin>  Depends: libgoffice-1-2 (>=0.2.1) but it is not installable or
[11:26] <brokenbin>  	libgoffice-gtk-1-2 (>=0.2.1) but it is not installable
[11:27] <brokenbin> maxamillion: that's the message
[11:27] <maxamillion> hmmmm
[11:27] <maxamillion> !info libcriawips0
[11:27] <ubotu> libcriawips0: libraries necessary to run criawips. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 135 kB, installed size 356 kB
[11:28] <maxamillion> !info criawips
[11:28] <ubotu> criawips: A Presentation application for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.11-0ubuntu5 (edgy), package size 74 kB, installed size 176 kB
[11:29] <maxamillion> hmmm.....
[11:29] <maxamillion> brokenbin: have you installed anything through backports?
[11:30] <brokenbin> maxamillion: i don't even know what that is
[11:30] <maxamillion> oh ... ok
[11:33] <brokenbin> maxamillion: btw, it didnt' work even when xubuntu is freshly installed
[11:33] <maxamillion> brokenbin: ohhhhh, ok
[11:35] <maxamillion> brokenbin: ok, go in synaptic
[11:35] <brokenbin> maxamillion: ok
[11:36] <maxamillion> brokenbin: go to "Settings" and then "Repositories" and make sure the one that says "Universe" is checked, then save and click "reload" (on the main synaptic window) and try to install it then
[11:39] <brokenbin> maxamillion: same thing
[11:39] <brokenbin> maxamillion: same error message
[11:40] <maxamillion> hmmm.....
[11:42] <darx> what is the best way to browse windows shares?
[11:43] <darx> i cant seem to find network shares via thunar
[11:43] <maxamillion> darx: its not a feature that thunar currently has
[11:44] <brokenbin> maxamillion: so it is not conflict?
[11:44] <maxamillion> darx: the easiest way to do so is with nautilus, but that's ALOT of dependencies to install just for one app
[11:44] <darx> i guess it already installed.. lemme see
[11:44] <maxamillion> brokenbin: no, there's a conflict i just dont understand why ... i just installed and removed it on my machine
[11:45] <brokenbin> maxamillion: how did you install it?
[11:45] <darx> yup installed
[11:47] <maxamillion> brokenbin: open a Terminal window and type "sudo aptitude install criawips"
[11:50] <brokenbin> maxamillion: can you give me a pastebin?
[11:50] <maxamillion> brokenbin: of what?
[11:50] <Diego> hi all
[11:50] <maxamillion> Diego: hello
[11:51] <Diego> could anyone help me please?
[11:51] <maxamillion> !ask | Diego
[11:51] <brokenbin> maxamillion: http://pastebin.ca/426071
[11:51] <ubotu> Diego: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:51] <Diego> ok :)
[11:51] <Diego> i've got an old ibm x20 here where i want install xubuntu on it
[11:51] <Diego> i've tried it with the beta 7.xx
[11:52] <Diego> but after i have choosen the keyboard layout and else
[11:52] <Diego> there was only the background and the mousetrigger
[11:52] <Diego> now i am trying with stable 6.10
[11:52] <Diego> but its goddamn slow
[11:53] <Diego> pc has: p3 600mhz, 128mb of ram, 20gb hdd
[11:53] <Diego> should be enough?!
[11:53] <Jester45> what kind of install
[11:53] <maxamillion> brokenbin: i haven't the slightest idea ... you might ask in #ubuntu because that isn't going to be a xubuntu specific issue and they might be able to help
[11:53] <Jester45> lice cd or alternative
[11:53] <Jester45> live*
[11:53] <Diego> i am installing by a cd
[11:53] <maxamillion> Diego: which cd?
[11:53] <maxamillion> Diego: there are 2 options
[11:54] <Qew> Diego: should just about work. However, to install it, you'll have to use the alternative CD and not the live one.
[11:54] <brokenbin> maxamillion: do you use edgy?
[11:54] <Jester45> Qew, well the live will work on 128mb ram but its VERY slow
[11:54] <Diego> ok, where can i see which cd i've got?
[11:54] <Qew> yeah, it'll work, but won't install
[11:54] <Diego> i thought it should be enough
[11:54] <Qew> to get it to install on the HD, it'll need the alternative one (text based)
[11:55] <Jester45> Diego, there is a desktop cd and a alternative cd you need to use alternative cd
[11:55] <pirothezero> okay its on span monitors but it goes all across one of them and 1/2 way on the other
[11:55] <Diego> please tell me where i can get the alternative cd from, and will it work?
[11:55] <maxamillion> brokenbin: i use dapper, edgy, and feisty all on different computers
[11:55] <pirothezero> and i can't move the bottom bar, it is currently in the middle of my screen
[11:56] <pirothezero> i right click and hit move and it allows me to 'ghost move it' but then when i click it goes back to where it is
[11:56] <Jester45> pirothezero, try setting the bar to expand
[11:56] <Qew> Diego: http://ftp.cw.net/xubuntu/releases/6.10/release/ and search for your appropriate alternative CD
[11:57] <Diego> thx
[11:57] <Qew> Diego: well, seeing that the Live CD worked, this should work for you. The live cd would probably be slow, but if it gets installed on a HD, it should pick up speed.
[11:58] <Diego> yeah, but the install did seem to stop when i picked the timeline and keyboard layout
[11:59] <Diego> so i will try it with the alternate cd
[11:59] <Diego> i think it was because of the small ram, 128mb
[11:59] <pirothezero> Jester45 hard to explain what I have so here obzftw.com/Screenshot.png
[11:59] <pirothezero> two dual monitors in portrait mode. its like the bars dont know about the other monitor
[12:03] <Jester45> im not at my computer right now but right click the panel and search on the properties section for expand
[12:03] <Jester45> its like expand across desktops
[12:03] <pirothezero> when i click the box for expand that moves all the options to the far right like in windows systray
[12:04] <pirothezero> still doesnt move the actual bar
[12:04] <Jester45> i have to go i will be back in about 1 1/2 hours
[12:04] <pirothezero> alright ill come in later and try to find oyu
[12:04] <Jester45> well im not sure whats the problem is
[12:04] <pirothezero> thanks
[12:04] <Jester45> you can ask some others i never had your problem
[12:05] <pirothezero> ya like i dont know if its just cause i have like all 3 desktops on here or what
[12:05] <pirothezero> like i get mix and matches sometimes kde loads with gnome window manager its really crazy
[12:05] <Jester45> just a question: why do you have konversation and xchat
[12:06] <Jester45> well try starting with only xfce things on
[12:06] <Jester45> no gnome wm and xfce other thing just try one
[12:07] <pirothezero> well thing is I use the krandtray tool to rotate 90 degrees ccw
[12:07] <pirothezero> dont know any other way
[12:07] <Jester45> i like beryl
[12:07] <Jester45> i dont think it can do that
[12:07] <pirothezero> that might be screwing it up too
[12:07] <Jester45> you could move your moniters
[12:07] <pirothezero> to landscape you mean?
[12:08] <Jester45> yes
[12:08] <Jester45> or...
[12:08] <Jester45> no i
[12:08] <Jester45> meant turn your moniters 90 degrees
[12:09] <pirothezero> ah
[12:09] <pirothezero> as for xchat and conversation kcon is on there from when I started using kubuntu
[12:09] <pirothezero> never really got around to taking it off
[12:10] <pirothezero> ill just download xubuntu pop in a spare hard drive and just give it a fresh go
[12:10] <Jester45> i dont have any icons
[12:10] <Jester45> or boot with a custom session
[12:10] <Jester45> with only xfce things
[12:10] <pirothezero> alright ill look into that
[12:11] <pirothezero> oh whats the sun/star thing about new apps thing ?
[12:11] <pirothezero> where if you quit it
[12:11] <pirothezero> it turns into a rectangle with two squares in it
[12:11] <Jester45> ??
[12:11] <pirothezero> gray can move it around , very annoying and I have like 8 of them
[12:12] <pirothezero> http://obzftw.com/Screenshot-1.png
[12:12] <pirothezero> if you can go to that
[12:12] <pirothezero> left monitor
[12:12] <pirothezero> above xmms
[12:13] <Jester45> idk never had them
[12:13] <pirothezero> lol man I just have one f'ed up install
[12:13] <Jester45> what version of xubuntu r u using
[12:13] <pirothezero> well it started out as kubuntu then I wanted to try the rest so I added them all
[12:13] <pirothezero> but edgy
[12:14] <Jester45> no like 6.06 6.10 7.06
[12:14] <pirothezero> 6.10
[12:16] <Jester45> o
[12:16] <pirothezero> no big deal Ill just start fresh
[12:18] <FlippantBird> can someone help me? im having problems with the terminal
[12:18] <dooglus> depends on what kind of problems...
[12:18] <FlippantBird> wierd one...
[12:19] <pirothezero> Ahhh okay they are panels jester lol right click on them or in panel manager i can just delete them
[12:19] <pirothezero> not sure how they got there
[12:19] <FlippantBird> a prompt wont show up
[12:19] <dooglus> FlippantBird: in a new terminal?
[12:19] <dooglus> or one you've soiled?
[12:20] <FlippantBird> it just says * Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [OK]  then there is a blinking cursor below
[12:20] <FlippantBird> nothing else
[12:20] <FlippantBird> i cant enter commands
[12:21] <FlippantBird> its also full screen, and i cant seem to get back to the desktop
[12:21] <FlippantBird> im not suree if X shutdown
[12:23] <FlippantBird> dooglus: yes, its a new terminal
[12:23] <dooglus> FlippantBird: you've put something into /etc/rc.local which doesn't finish?
[12:23] <dooglus> FlippantBird: wait - is this an xfce terminal?
[12:24] <dooglus> FlippantBird: or the virtual console?