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lns | Sup all | 12:18 |
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lns | I'm in a bit of a bind here... I have a bunch of schools that want to migrate to Linux/LTSP/Edubuntu | 12:29 |
Burgwork | sounds good | 12:30 |
Burgwork | what is the issue? | 12:30 |
lns | I really want to use Ubuntu/Edubuntu, but there lacks a good user management tool for >20 users | 12:30 |
Burgwork | you can use openldap | 12:30 |
Burgwork | takes a bit to setup | 12:30 |
lns | what kind of admin tools are there for that? | 12:31 |
lns | The IT staff in the schools are all windows ppl | 12:31 |
Burgwork | there are a bunch of tools | 12:31 |
lns | they don't want commandline at all | 12:31 |
Burgwork | I use lat, personally | 12:31 |
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lns | lat..ok | 12:31 |
lns | is it pretty useful for LTSP/Linux user environments? | 12:32 |
lns | I know a lot are just generic LDAP admin tools | 12:32 |
lns | it would be good to have one that is geared toward easy user/system admin | 12:32 |
lns | I know very little about LDAP | 12:32 |
Burgwork | it is a bit of a headache to setup | 12:32 |
Burgwork | doesn't do as much hand holding as AD | 12:32 |
lns | yea | 12:32 |
lns | The schools are leaning toward Novell/Suse enterprise | 12:33 |
lns | because of Zenworks | 12:33 |
lns | lat looks nice, though | 12:34 |
lns | pretty basic | 12:35 |
Burgwork | it does the job | 12:35 |
lns | I have the most expertise in Ubuntu/Edubuntu environments though, and PXE boot is something that really helps after everythign is set up, vs. having a thin client like Neoware that has a firmware-based OS on it, it's a bunch of useless stuff | 12:36 |
lns | another thing is a keyboarding program.. tuxtype/ktouch are very limited... are there any other linux native typing tutor programs out there? | 12:37 |
lns | I tried installing Typing Master but it craps out with a generic installation failure mssg | 12:37 |
Burgwork | I have no idea | 12:37 |
LaserJock | just put everybody in #ubuntu for a few hours | 12:37 |
LaserJock | ;-) | 12:37 |
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DrX | anyone know why i can't mount a new ext3 volume? (result = mount error: "Unable to mount the volume" dmesg | tail > "VFS: Can't find ext3 file system on dev sda6") | 02:24 |
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Dante123 | hi all.....if I was wanting to setup a server...would a Pentium III 850 mhz do a decent enough job? | 03:44 |
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crimsun | depending on the amount of RAM, the CPU is plenty powerful | 03:46 |
LaserJock | Dante123: how many clients? | 03:46 |
Dante123 | 4-5 likely | 03:49 |
Dante123 | sorry..was in another window | 03:49 |
Kamping_Kaiser | cram it with ram and it should cope | 03:49 |
Dante123 | what would be sufficient ram.....1gb | 03:50 |
Kamping_Kaiser | yeh | 03:50 |
Kamping_Kaiser | depends how much openoffice use goes on ;) | 03:51 |
bddebian | heh | 03:53 |
Dante123 | what about a 2.4 ghz celeron with 1 gb ram? | 03:56 |
Dante123 | Celeron D.... | 03:56 |
Kamping_Kaiser | for 5 clients? overkill :) | 03:57 |
Dante123 | so pentium iii is okay? | 03:57 |
Kamping_Kaiser | yeh | 03:57 |
Kamping_Kaiser | i run 10-20 clients (depending on load) off a 3gig p4 with 2 gig of ram | 03:58 |
Dante123 | I'm wanting to setup a little network at school......for my class..... | 03:58 |
Kamping_Kaiser | and its very rare i notice any server lag - its mostly network congestion | 03:58 |
Dante123 | okay...thanks...... | 04:03 |
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sbalneav | Evening all | 05:26 |
Burgundavia | hey sbalneav | 05:26 |
Burgundavia | how goes work? | 05:27 |
Burgundavia | did you hear the good news out of Jorge? | 05:27 |
sbalneav | No? | 05:27 |
sbalneav | What's up? | 05:27 |
Burgundavia | apparently the prelim code for ltsp failover is shaping up | 05:27 |
sbalneav | Jorge Castro? | 05:28 |
Burgundavia | yep | 05:28 |
sbalneav | Who's writing it? | 05:28 |
Burgundavia | a student, the guy who is wrote desktop drapes | 05:29 |
sbalneav | And what, exactly, is this code doing? | 05:29 |
Burgundavia | I honestly have no idea | 05:30 |
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intengu | hi all | 06:56 |
LaserJock | hi | 06:58 |
intengu | any idea on how setup login profiles when using thin clients- want for example to have OpenOffice.org, Firefox, mount removable drive, no browsing filesystem | 07:00 |
sbalneav | intengu: You'd be wanting to look into Sabayon | 07:14 |
intengu | will Sabayon ensure that the profile for the clients is different to that of the server | 07:19 |
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Burgundavia | intengu: yes, via the chroot | 07:22 |
intengu | Burgundavia: how will i do that not sure | 07:29 |
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frandavid100 | hello! | 02:10 |
stelis | Hi | 02:11 |
frandavid100 | can you guys give me some help with the student control panel? | 02:11 |
frandavid100 | I'm trying to practice with it for a while, already installed the server part | 02:11 |
frandavid100 | but what do I have to do with the client computer? | 02:11 |
frandavid100 | do I have to install something in it, run a command...? | 02:12 |
stelis | It just controls the system itself, and attached thin clients. | 02:13 |
stelis | (Edubuntu is a thin client system, by default). | 02:14 |
frandavid100 | didn't know that | 02:14 |
stelis | Docs are a work in progress :) | 02:14 |
frandavid100 | so, if I install thin-client-manager in my ubuntu install | 02:14 |
frandavid100 | it will pick up any computers connected to the same network, with edubuntu installed? | 02:15 |
frandavid100 | and take them as clients? | 02:15 |
stelis | I haven't used TCM, but I don't think so. | 02:15 |
stelis | Thin clients boot from the server, and are essentially just terminals. | 02:16 |
stelis | Basically you install Edubuntu classroom server on the server PC | 02:16 |
frandavid100 | aha | 02:16 |
stelis | Then set the other machines to "network boot" | 02:17 |
stelis | PXE in Intel-speak | 02:17 |
frandavid100 | hmmm | 02:17 |
stelis | Most PCs now support PXE out of the box | 02:17 |
frandavid100 | from the bios, you mean? | 02:17 |
stelis | Yes | 02:17 |
frandavid100 | I would have to try that | 02:17 |
stelis | Change the boot option from hard drive to LAN | 02:17 |
stelis | The OS on the hard drive remains unchanged | 02:18 |
frandavid100 | so you don't really need anything installed in the clients, cool | 02:18 |
stelis | It's simply ignored | 02:18 |
stelis | Very, IMO :) | 02:18 |
frandavid100 | sorry to ask dumb questions BTW, I'm just to all the thin client thing and it kinda beats me | 02:18 |
frandavid100 | I'm new I mant | 02:19 |
stelis | It went out of fashion for a long while | 02:19 |
frandavid100 | gonna check that old computers bios, doubt it will have PXE tho | 02:19 |
stelis | It may be listed as "Network" or "LAN" in the boot options | 02:20 |
stelis | Anything less than 6 years old has a good chance. | 02:20 |
frandavid100 | boot sequence, right? | 02:22 |
stelis | Yes. | 02:22 |
frandavid100 | no, that thing has only drive letters | 02:22 |
frandavid100 | I'll have to try it out with a newer PC | 02:22 |
frandavid100 | so, is there a webpage for the project or something? | 02:23 |
frandavid100 | I'd like to see it in action, to see the screen viewer and stuff | 02:24 |
stelis | http://www.edubuntu.com/, but that's a little dated. | 02:24 |
stelis | TCM is fairly new, and hasn't been in a release yet. | 02:25 |
frandavid100 | will be in feisty by default right? | 02:26 |
stelis | I think so, although it wasn't in Herd 4. | 02:28 |
stelis | I haven't had the time to check Herd 5. | 02:28 |
frandavid100 | it looks really good | 02:29 |
frandavid100 | oh, it says in Rosetta that it's not set up for translation | 02:30 |
frandavid100 | and here I wanted to help translate it to Spanish | 02:30 |
stelis | Oh, probably not then, but I'm not a developer. | 02:30 |
stelis | FWIW, IRC mostly works runs on US time - there are more people around later. | 02:31 |
frandavid100 | yeah you solved most of my doubts anyway | 02:32 |
frandavid100 | thanks man, gotta go do some work ^^ thanks for your time! | 02:33 |
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cliebow_ | anyone got a link for feisty iso? | 04:41 |
cliebow_ | #ubuntu+1 | 04:42 |
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obiyoda | I am having issues gettin dhcp to listen on the second network card. When I do an ifconfig I do not see the second network card is this normal? I just installed the beta system | 05:52 |
obiyoda | I wonder if my network card is bad. Thats what I get for using spare hardware ;) let me swap it out and see if that is the problem | 05:56 |
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obiyoda | How would I go about getting the x11vnc to work with the thin client manger? Is this a simple process? | 07:03 |
obiyoda | I am currently running beta of feisty | 07:04 |
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frandavid100 | hi guys | 07:56 |
frandavid100 | I have been playing with TCM for a while, noticed that the "user and system" icon looks a bit outdated | 07:57 |
frandavid100 | so I made a new one from existing Tango icons: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1649/tcmur2.png | 07:58 |
frandavid100 | just in case you could use one | 07:58 |
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WaxyFresh | whats the diffrence in between edubuntu and ubuntu?besides the icons/edu. progrms? | 09:06 |
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leprasmurf | hello all | 10:53 |
leprasmurf | trying to install dvd playback on my son's computer offline | 10:53 |
leprasmurf | can anyone point me in the right direction? | 10:54 |
LaserJock | generally you need to get libdvdcss2 | 10:55 |
leprasmurf | I was reading a tutorial that said if you're using ubuntu 6.10 - Edgy Eft, then you need libdvdread3 | 10:55 |
leprasmurf | but if libdvdcss would work, all the better | 10:56 |
stgraber | leprasmurf: try : sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh | 11:11 |
stgraber | once libdvdread3 installed, it'll download the required package to be able to read the DVD | 11:12 |
stgraber | then you should be able to read your dvd using any of the video players available | 11:12 |
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