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lnsSup all12:18
lnsI'm in a bit of a bind here... I have a bunch of schools that want to migrate to Linux/LTSP/Edubuntu12:29
Burgworksounds good12:30
Burgworkwhat is the issue?12:30
lnsI really want to use Ubuntu/Edubuntu, but there lacks a good user management tool for >20 users12:30
Burgworkyou can use openldap12:30
Burgworktakes a bit to setup12:30
lnswhat kind of admin tools are there for that?12:31
lnsThe IT staff in the schools are all windows ppl12:31
Burgworkthere are a bunch of tools12:31
lnsthey don't want commandline at all12:31
BurgworkI use lat, personally12:31
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lnslat..ok12:31
lnsis it pretty useful for LTSP/Linux user environments?12:32
lnsI know a lot are just generic LDAP admin tools12:32
lnsit would be good to have one that is geared toward easy user/system admin12:32
lnsI know very little about LDAP12:32
Burgworkit is a bit of a headache to setup12:32
Burgworkdoesn't do as much hand holding as AD12:32
lnsyea12:32
lnsThe schools are leaning toward Novell/Suse enterprise12:33
lnsbecause of Zenworks12:33
lnslat looks nice, though12:34
lnspretty basic12:35
Burgworkit does the job12:35
lnsI have the most expertise in Ubuntu/Edubuntu environments though, and PXE boot is something that really helps after everythign is set up, vs. having a thin client like Neoware that has a firmware-based OS on it, it's a bunch of useless stuff12:36
lnsanother thing is a keyboarding program.. tuxtype/ktouch are very limited... are there any other linux native typing tutor programs out there?12:37
lnsI tried installing Typing Master but it craps out with a generic installation failure mssg12:37
BurgworkI have no idea12:37
LaserJockjust put everybody in #ubuntu for a few hours12:37
LaserJock;-)12:37
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DrXanyone know why i can't mount a new ext3 volume?  (result = mount error:  "Unable to mount the volume" dmesg | tail > "VFS:  Can't find ext3 file system on dev sda6")02:24
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Dante123hi all.....if I was wanting to setup a server...would a Pentium III 850 mhz do a decent enough job?03:44
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crimsundepending on the amount of RAM, the CPU is plenty powerful03:46
LaserJockDante123: how many clients?03:46
Dante1234-5 likely03:49
Dante123sorry..was in another window03:49
Kamping_Kaisercram it with ram and it should cope03:49
Dante123what would be sufficient ram.....1gb03:50
Kamping_Kaiseryeh03:50
Kamping_Kaiserdepends how much openoffice use goes on ;)03:51
bddebianheh03:53
Dante123what about a 2.4 ghz celeron with 1 gb ram?03:56
Dante123Celeron D....03:56
Kamping_Kaiserfor 5 clients? overkill :)03:57
Dante123so pentium iii is okay?03:57
Kamping_Kaiseryeh03:57
Kamping_Kaiseri run 10-20 clients (depending on load) off a 3gig p4 with 2 gig of ram03:58
Dante123I'm wanting to setup a little network at school......for my class.....03:58
Kamping_Kaiserand its very rare i notice any server lag - its mostly network congestion03:58
Dante123okay...thanks......04:03
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sbalneavEvening all05:26
Burgundaviahey sbalneav05:26
Burgundaviahow goes work?05:27
Burgundaviadid you hear the good news out of Jorge?05:27
sbalneavNo?05:27
sbalneavWhat's up?05:27
Burgundaviaapparently the prelim code for ltsp failover is shaping up05:27
sbalneavJorge Castro?05:28
Burgundaviayep05:28
sbalneavWho's writing it?05:28
Burgundaviaa student, the guy who is wrote desktop drapes05:29
sbalneavAnd what, exactly, is this code doing?05:29
BurgundaviaI honestly have no idea05:30
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intenguhi all06:56
LaserJockhi06:58
intenguany idea on how setup login profiles when using thin clients- want for example to have OpenOffice.org, Firefox, mount removable drive, no browsing filesystem07:00
sbalneavintengu: You'd be wanting to look into Sabayon07:14
intenguwill Sabayon ensure that the profile for the clients is different to that of the server07:19
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Burgundaviaintengu: yes, via the chroot07:22
intenguBurgundavia: how will i do that not sure07:29
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frandavid100hello!02:10
stelisHi02:11
frandavid100can you guys give me some help with the student control panel?02:11
frandavid100I'm trying to practice with it for a while, already installed the server part02:11
frandavid100but what do I have to do with the client computer?02:11
frandavid100do I have to install something in it, run a command...?02:12
stelisIt just controls the system itself, and attached thin clients.02:13
stelis(Edubuntu is a thin client system, by default).02:14
frandavid100didn't know that02:14
stelisDocs are a work in progress :)02:14
frandavid100so, if I install thin-client-manager in my ubuntu install02:14
frandavid100it will pick up any computers connected to the same network, with edubuntu installed?02:15
frandavid100and take them as clients?02:15
stelisI haven't used TCM, but I don't think so.02:15
stelisThin clients boot from the server, and are essentially just terminals.02:16
stelisBasically you install Edubuntu classroom server on the server PC02:16
frandavid100aha02:16
stelisThen set the other machines to "network boot"02:17
stelisPXE in Intel-speak02:17
frandavid100hmmm02:17
stelisMost PCs now support PXE out of the box02:17
frandavid100from the bios, you mean?02:17
stelisYes02:17
frandavid100I would have to try that02:17
stelisChange the boot option from hard drive to LAN02:17
stelisThe OS on the hard drive remains unchanged02:18
frandavid100so you don't really need anything installed in the clients, cool02:18
stelisIt's simply ignored02:18
stelisVery, IMO :)02:18
frandavid100sorry to ask dumb questions BTW, I'm just to all the thin client thing and it kinda beats me02:18
frandavid100I'm new I mant02:19
stelisIt went out of fashion for a long while02:19
frandavid100gonna check that old computers bios, doubt it will have PXE tho02:19
stelisIt may be listed as "Network" or "LAN" in the boot options02:20
stelisAnything less than 6 years old has a good chance.02:20
frandavid100boot sequence, right?02:22
stelisYes.02:22
frandavid100no, that thing has only drive letters02:22
frandavid100I'll have to try it out with a newer PC02:22
frandavid100so, is there a webpage for the project or something?02:23
frandavid100I'd like to see it in action, to see the screen viewer and stuff02:24
stelishttp://www.edubuntu.com/, but that's a little dated.02:24
stelisTCM is fairly new, and hasn't been in a release yet.02:25
frandavid100will be in feisty by default right?02:26
stelisI think so, although it wasn't in Herd 4.02:28
stelisI haven't had the time to check Herd 5.02:28
frandavid100it looks really good02:29
frandavid100oh, it says in Rosetta that it's not set up for translation02:30
frandavid100and here I wanted to help translate it to Spanish02:30
stelisOh, probably not then, but I'm not a developer.02:30
stelisFWIW, IRC mostly works runs on US time - there are more people around later.02:31
frandavid100yeah you solved most of my doubts anyway02:32
frandavid100thanks man, gotta go do some work ^^ thanks for your time!02:33
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cliebow_anyone got a link for feisty iso?04:41
cliebow_#ubuntu+104:42
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obiyodaI am having issues gettin dhcp to listen on the second network card. When I do an ifconfig I do not see the second network card is this normal? I just installed the beta system05:52
obiyodaI wonder if my network card is bad. Thats what I get for using spare hardware ;) let me swap it out and see if that is the problem05:56
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obiyodaHow would I go about getting the x11vnc to work with the thin client manger? Is this a simple process?07:03
obiyodaI am currently running beta of feisty07:04
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frandavid100hi guys07:56
frandavid100I have been playing with TCM for a while, noticed that the "user and system" icon looks a bit outdated07:57
frandavid100so I made a new one from existing Tango icons: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1649/tcmur2.png07:58
frandavid100just in case you could use one07:58
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WaxyFreshwhats the diffrence in between edubuntu and ubuntu?besides the icons/edu. progrms?09:06
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leprasmurfhello all10:53
leprasmurftrying to install dvd playback on my son's computer offline10:53
leprasmurfcan anyone point me in the right direction?10:54
LaserJockgenerally you need to get libdvdcss210:55
leprasmurfI was reading a tutorial that said if you're using ubuntu 6.10 - Edgy Eft, then you need libdvdread310:55
leprasmurfbut if libdvdcss would work, all the better10:56
stgraberleprasmurf: try : sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh11:11
stgraberonce libdvdread3 installed, it'll download the required package to be able to read the DVD11:12
stgraberthen you should be able to read your dvd using any of the video players available11:12

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