[12:18] <lns> Sup all
[12:29] <lns> I'm in a bit of a bind here... I have a bunch of schools that want to migrate to Linux/LTSP/Edubuntu
[12:30] <Burgwork> sounds good
[12:30] <Burgwork> what is the issue?
[12:30] <lns> I really want to use Ubuntu/Edubuntu, but there lacks a good user management tool for >20 users
[12:30] <Burgwork> you can use openldap
[12:30] <Burgwork> takes a bit to setup
[12:31] <lns> what kind of admin tools are there for that?
[12:31] <lns> The IT staff in the schools are all windows ppl
[12:31] <Burgwork> there are a bunch of tools
[12:31] <lns> they don't want commandline at all
[12:31] <Burgwork> I use lat, personally
[12:31] <lns> lat..ok
[12:32] <lns> is it pretty useful for LTSP/Linux user environments?
[12:32] <lns> I know a lot are just generic LDAP admin tools
[12:32] <lns> it would be good to have one that is geared toward easy user/system admin
[12:32] <lns> I know very little about LDAP
[12:32] <Burgwork> it is a bit of a headache to setup
[12:32] <Burgwork> doesn't do as much hand holding as AD
[12:32] <lns> yea
[12:33] <lns> The schools are leaning toward Novell/Suse enterprise
[12:33] <lns> because of Zenworks
[12:34] <lns> lat looks nice, though
[12:35] <lns> pretty basic
[12:35] <Burgwork> it does the job
[12:36] <lns> I have the most expertise in Ubuntu/Edubuntu environments though, and PXE boot is something that really helps after everythign is set up, vs. having a thin client like Neoware that has a firmware-based OS on it, it's a bunch of useless stuff
[12:37] <lns> another thing is a keyboarding program.. tuxtype/ktouch are very limited... are there any other linux native typing tutor programs out there?
[12:37] <lns> I tried installing Typing Master but it craps out with a generic installation failure mssg
[12:37] <Burgwork> I have no idea
[12:37] <LaserJock> just put everybody in #ubuntu for a few hours
[12:37] <LaserJock> ;-)
[02:24] <DrX> anyone know why i can't mount a new ext3 volume?  (result = mount error:  "Unable to mount the volume" dmesg | tail > "VFS:  Can't find ext3 file system on dev sda6")
[03:44] <Dante123> hi all.....if I was wanting to setup a server...would a Pentium III 850 mhz do a decent enough job?
[03:46] <crimsun> depending on the amount of RAM, the CPU is plenty powerful
[03:46] <LaserJock> Dante123: how many clients?
[03:49] <Dante123> 4-5 likely
[03:49] <Dante123> sorry..was in another window
[03:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> cram it with ram and it should cope
[03:50] <Dante123> what would be sufficient ram.....1gb
[03:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
[03:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> depends how much openoffice use goes on ;)
[03:53] <bddebian> heh
[03:56] <Dante123> what about a 2.4 ghz celeron with 1 gb ram?
[03:56] <Dante123> Celeron D....
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> for 5 clients? overkill :)
[03:57] <Dante123> so pentium iii is okay?
[03:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> yeh
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> i run 10-20 clients (depending on load) off a 3gig p4 with 2 gig of ram
[03:58] <Dante123> I'm wanting to setup a little network at school......for my class.....
[03:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> and its very rare i notice any server lag - its mostly network congestion
[04:03] <Dante123> okay...thanks......
[05:26] <sbalneav> Evening all
[05:26] <Burgundavia> hey sbalneav
[05:27] <Burgundavia> how goes work?
[05:27] <Burgundavia> did you hear the good news out of Jorge?
[05:27] <sbalneav> No?
[05:27] <sbalneav> What's up?
[05:27] <Burgundavia> apparently the prelim code for ltsp failover is shaping up
[05:28] <sbalneav> Jorge Castro?
[05:28] <Burgundavia> yep
[05:28] <sbalneav> Who's writing it?
[05:29] <Burgundavia> a student, the guy who is wrote desktop drapes
[05:29] <sbalneav> And what, exactly, is this code doing?
[05:30] <Burgundavia> I honestly have no idea
[06:56] <intengu> hi all
[06:58] <LaserJock> hi
[07:00] <intengu> any idea on how setup login profiles when using thin clients- want for example to have OpenOffice.org, Firefox, mount removable drive, no browsing filesystem
[07:14] <sbalneav> intengu: You'd be wanting to look into Sabayon
[07:19] <intengu> will Sabayon ensure that the profile for the clients is different to that of the server
[07:22] <Burgundavia> intengu: yes, via the chroot
[07:29] <intengu> Burgundavia: how will i do that not sure
[02:10] <frandavid100> hello!
[02:11] <stelis> Hi
[02:11] <frandavid100> can you guys give me some help with the student control panel?
[02:11] <frandavid100> I'm trying to practice with it for a while, already installed the server part
[02:11] <frandavid100> but what do I have to do with the client computer?
[02:12] <frandavid100> do I have to install something in it, run a command...?
[02:13] <stelis> It just controls the system itself, and attached thin clients.
[02:14] <stelis> (Edubuntu is a thin client system, by default).
[02:14] <frandavid100> didn't know that
[02:14] <stelis> Docs are a work in progress :)
[02:14] <frandavid100> so, if I install thin-client-manager in my ubuntu install
[02:15] <frandavid100> it will pick up any computers connected to the same network, with edubuntu installed?
[02:15] <frandavid100> and take them as clients?
[02:15] <stelis> I haven't used TCM, but I don't think so.
[02:16] <stelis> Thin clients boot from the server, and are essentially just terminals.
[02:16] <stelis> Basically you install Edubuntu classroom server on the server PC
[02:16] <frandavid100> aha
[02:17] <stelis> Then set the other machines to "network boot"
[02:17] <stelis> PXE in Intel-speak
[02:17] <frandavid100> hmmm
[02:17] <stelis> Most PCs now support PXE out of the box
[02:17] <frandavid100> from the bios, you mean?
[02:17] <stelis> Yes
[02:17] <frandavid100> I would have to try that
[02:17] <stelis> Change the boot option from hard drive to LAN
[02:18] <stelis> The OS on the hard drive remains unchanged
[02:18] <frandavid100> so you don't really need anything installed in the clients, cool
[02:18] <stelis> It's simply ignored
[02:18] <stelis> Very, IMO :)
[02:18] <frandavid100> sorry to ask dumb questions BTW, I'm just to all the thin client thing and it kinda beats me
[02:19] <frandavid100> I'm new I mant
[02:19] <stelis> It went out of fashion for a long while
[02:19] <frandavid100> gonna check that old computers bios, doubt it will have PXE tho
[02:20] <stelis> It may be listed as "Network" or "LAN" in the boot options
[02:20] <stelis> Anything less than 6 years old has a good chance.
[02:22] <frandavid100> boot sequence, right?
[02:22] <stelis> Yes.
[02:22] <frandavid100> no, that thing has only drive letters
[02:22] <frandavid100> I'll have to try it out with a newer PC
[02:23] <frandavid100> so, is there a webpage for the project or something?
[02:24] <frandavid100> I'd like to see it in action, to see the screen viewer and stuff
[02:24] <stelis> http://www.edubuntu.com/, but that's a little dated.
[02:25] <stelis> TCM is fairly new, and hasn't been in a release yet.
[02:26] <frandavid100> will be in feisty by default right?
[02:28] <stelis> I think so, although it wasn't in Herd 4.
[02:28] <stelis> I haven't had the time to check Herd 5.
[02:29] <frandavid100> it looks really good
[02:30] <frandavid100> oh, it says in Rosetta that it's not set up for translation
[02:30] <frandavid100> and here I wanted to help translate it to Spanish
[02:30] <stelis> Oh, probably not then, but I'm not a developer.
[02:31] <stelis> FWIW, IRC mostly works runs on US time - there are more people around later.
[02:32] <frandavid100> yeah you solved most of my doubts anyway
[02:33] <frandavid100> thanks man, gotta go do some work ^^ thanks for your time!
[04:41] <cliebow_> anyone got a link for feisty iso?
[04:42] <cliebow_> #ubuntu+1
[05:52] <obiyoda> I am having issues gettin dhcp to listen on the second network card. When I do an ifconfig I do not see the second network card is this normal? I just installed the beta system
[05:56] <obiyoda> I wonder if my network card is bad. Thats what I get for using spare hardware ;) let me swap it out and see if that is the problem
[07:03] <obiyoda> How would I go about getting the x11vnc to work with the thin client manger? Is this a simple process?
[07:04] <obiyoda> I am currently running beta of feisty
[07:56] <frandavid100> hi guys
[07:57] <frandavid100> I have been playing with TCM for a while, noticed that the "user and system" icon looks a bit outdated
[07:58] <frandavid100> so I made a new one from existing Tango icons: http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1649/tcmur2.png
[07:58] <frandavid100> just in case you could use one
[09:06] <WaxyFresh> whats the diffrence in between edubuntu and ubuntu?besides the icons/edu. progrms?
[10:53] <leprasmurf> hello all
[10:53] <leprasmurf> trying to install dvd playback on my son's computer offline
[10:54] <leprasmurf> can anyone point me in the right direction?
[10:55] <LaserJock> generally you need to get libdvdcss2
[10:55] <leprasmurf> I was reading a tutorial that said if you're using ubuntu 6.10 - Edgy Eft, then you need libdvdread3
[10:56] <leprasmurf> but if libdvdcss would work, all the better
[11:11] <stgraber> leprasmurf: try : sh /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[11:12] <stgraber> once libdvdread3 installed, it'll download the required package to be able to read the DVD
[11:12] <stgraber> then you should be able to read your dvd using any of the video players available