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| giangy | yawn | 12:20 |
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| Riddell | manchicken: get my e-mail? | 12:54 |
| nixternal | did it have any money attached? | 12:54 |
| nixternal | ;) | 12:54 |
| manchicken | The one about it killing the indicator icon? | 12:55 |
| manchicken | Yeah, I've been trying to shoot that one down for an hour or so now. | 12:55 |
| manchicken | I'm sure that as I get more comfortable with C++ it will be easier, but the semantics of the language are just biting me in the ass. | 12:55 |
| Riddell | adept is more difficult than most because it uses stl stuff rather than nice Qt | 12:56 |
| manchicken | Right now I'm trying to figure out how to get the overridden pixmap method to call a parent pixmap method, but due to constness it's proving to be more trouble than I thought. | 12:56 |
| manchicken | Yes. | 12:56 |
| manchicken | I totally agree. | 12:56 |
| manchicken | though this problem is 100% a weirdness in how the Qt stuff is done. | 12:56 |
| Riddell | yes, qt 3 list views are curious things | 12:56 |
| manchicken | Overriding the virtuals in Qt seems to cause headache sometimes. | 12:56 |
| Riddell | adept takes it to the limit really | 12:56 |
| manchicken | Curious is an exceptionally polite term for them :) | 12:57 |
| manchicken | I wish I could tell the compiler "yes, I know it's a const. I'd like to treat it like a const as well... but you're bitching about nothing" | 12:58 |
| manchicken | But I can't... because it's only a program. | 12:58 |
| manchicken | And no matter how much you'd like to, you can't slap the sense into a program. | 12:58 |
| giangy | uhm | 01:04 |
| Riddell | consts are crazy things | 01:09 |
| Riddell | it means about 10 different things in c++ | 01:10 |
| nixternal | heh, I know named constants, and you mean there are more? ;p | 01:10 |
| giangy | Riddell: have you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/102345 ? | 01:13 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102345 in kde-guidance "kde guidance does not display cpu frequency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:13 |
| nixternal | heh, I just noticed that, my CPU is 0mhz | 01:14 |
| Riddell | giangy: lure or sebas might respond faster to that than me | 01:16 |
| giangy | okey, I'll ping lure or sebas tomorrow | 01:16 |
| yuriy | what's stl? | 01:29 |
| nixternal | standard template library | 01:29 |
| yuriy | i wonder how adept 3 is going and whether it'll be less complicated dev-wise | 01:31 |
| === Jucato is amused at how adept is complicated both dev-wise and user-wise :D | ||
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| yuriy | wth i just randomly got logged out. and lost my session :-\ | 01:47 |
| manchicken | Riddell: It took a while, and it's a little hacky, but I got it done. | 01:49 |
| Riddell | manchicken: ooh! | 01:51 |
| yuriy | does qt4 listview allow for these things without being hacky? | 01:51 |
| === Riddell hugs manchicken | ||
| === yuriy hugs manchicken too | ||
| Riddell | yuriy: qt 4 treewidget seems pretty flexible | 01:51 |
| manchicken | And now I'm going to try to do it without creating separate objects for each item :) | 01:51 |
| === manchicken hugs const pointers... | ||
| Tm_T | Riddell: kde4admin - graphics applications for KDE 4 testing | 01:52 |
| Tm_T | that seems bit funny | 01:52 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Disregard that previous patch altogether. | 01:52 |
| manchicken | Riddell: This one is quite different from it. | 01:53 |
| manchicken | I hate not having a bzr branch to go off of though. | 01:53 |
| manchicken | I have to clean up the patches manually due to conflicts. | 01:53 |
| yuriy | i don't see a kde4admin.. | 01:54 |
| Jucato | neither do I... | 01:56 |
| Riddell | it'll still be in NEW | 02:00 |
| Riddell | alleeEdgy32_: "ach@mpe.mpg.de has been removed from kubuntu-devel" | 02:00 |
| manchicken | mornfall will probably yell at me for this patch. | 02:04 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Enjoy your patch. I'm off to drink beer and eat spicy chicken fried in only God knows what. | 02:09 |
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| Riddell | manchicken|away: enjoy the beer | 02:15 |
| jjesse | mmmm beer | 02:15 |
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| manchicken | So did we roll back the tabbed interface for kde-systemsettings? | 06:37 |
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| Riddell | allee: "ach@mpe.mpg.de has been removed from kubuntu-devel" | 11:24 |
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| allee | Riddell: oh, why? | 11:51 |
| Riddell | allee: no idea, that's all I got | 11:55 |
| Riddell | a number were unsubscribed at the same time | 11:55 |
| allee | Riddell: no, info about it in my mailbox. I'll resubscribe again. Thx for the hint | 11:55 |
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| larsivi | finally! KNetworkManager is usable! | 12:22 |
| Riddell | yay! | 12:24 |
| larsivi | (it was the WPA support that did it, btw) | 12:25 |
| mhb | larsivi: has there been an update recently? | 12:26 |
| larsivi | mhb: with feisty I suppose? | 12:27 |
| mhb | larsivi: you said that it is usable ... network-manager with wpa support fails to connect for some chipsets | 12:28 |
| mhb | larsivi: so I wondered if there has been an update in Feisty recently that fixes bugs or something | 12:28 |
| larsivi | wpa_supplicant has been working fairly well for me, but something with feisty has made it unstable (networkdeamon,avahid or similar) so I decided to test knetworkmanager again | 12:28 |
| larsivi | wpa_supplicant has been working for me for 2 years (having the ipw2200 chipset) | 12:28 |
| larsivi | socalled WPA personal setup (which confused me a bit, since it is not what is commonly used elsewhere) | 12:29 |
| larsivi | also, on Windows I don't think passkey protected networks are differentiated between at all (WEP or WPA) | 12:30 |
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| Tonio_ | hi | 12:36 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: want me to upload adedpt with the patch ? | 12:36 |
| larsivi | did the kdm login graphics change for feisty? I think I didn't get them because the install thought I had made local changes | 12:37 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: no, I'm onto it | 12:52 |
| Riddell | larsivi: they didn't, check Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc | 12:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay ;) | 12:52 |
| larsivi | Riddell: thx, what I have | 12:54 |
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| Hobbsee | anyone seen https://launchpad.net/bugs/103607 ? | 01:36 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 103607 in adept "Adept-updater announces new version of Kubuntu but does not allow it to be installed (dup-of: 102782)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:36 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102782 in adept "Cannot upgrade Kubuntu - 'next' button is disabled" [Low,Fix committed] | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | ah, fix committed | 01:36 |
| === Jucato has been talking about that since yesterday... | ||
| Jucato | s/talking/asking | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 01:36 |
| Jucato | imho, it's a "false" notfication though... | 01:37 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: i've been looking at MOTU-type documentation stuff, btw. i'd be interested to see what you thought of it, at some point | 01:40 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: resuming MOTU studies on Monday or Tuesday :) | 01:40 |
| Jucato | loooong holiday :) | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | :D | 01:40 |
| Jucato | not that I don't want to "work"... just that I can't... | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | bah. this wont be done anytime soon | 01:40 |
| Jucato | just 2 general preliminary comments though: info/link overload (for the wiki) and probably too high an entry level (for the packaging guide). emphasis on the "probably" there | 01:41 |
| === Jucato will be comparing the Debian and Ubuntu guides to get a better overview | ||
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| Jucato | I think I came across a MOTU page about cleaning up and organizing the MOTU docs though. MOTU/Documentation/TODO iirc | 01:43 |
| Hobbsee | yeah. it's all pretty bad | 01:43 |
| === Hobbsee sorts plane tickets nad the like first | ||
| Jucato | heh :) | 01:43 |
| === Hobbsee wondres where her passport is | ||
| === Jucato wonders when he wil have need of one :D | ||
| === Hobbsee panics | ||
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| === Hobbsee ARRRRGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Hobbsee | </end panic> | 01:57 |
| === Hobbsee notes that putting things in a very safe place where they wont get lost usually means that she'll never find them again1!! | ||
| Jucato | heh :) | 02:00 |
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| rouzic | Hi | 02:00 |
| \sh | Czessi: when you are online, please login into your jabber account ;) | 02:01 |
| rouzic | Hobbsee: Hi | 02:04 |
| Hobbsee | hi rouzic :) | 02:05 |
| rouzic | Hobbsee: 2 days ago actualiz the packages avahi - *, and from this moment the take-off me is late almost 2 minutes when the message appears " start the configuration network " | 02:06 |
| Hobbsee | rouzic: sorry? | 02:07 |
| rouzic | Kubuntu's take-off is late 2 minutes since I updated the paquetea avahi- | 02:08 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'll patch dolphin to support urls | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: nice | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: there is an issue in the desktop file so that you get an error message when opening trash:/ or remote:/ with dolphin | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: the famous s/%f/ ;) | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 02:17 |
| Tonio_ | simple exec command in the desktop file that doesn't consider urls | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'l propose the patch upstream but I'm pretty sure that's already fixed, du to kde4 inclusion by default | 02:18 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:18 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: URLs? as in http:/ O.o | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: no, ioslaves | 02:19 |
| Jucato | aaaaah :) | 02:19 |
| Jucato | for a moment there, I thought... :D | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: for example if you set dolphin as the default file manager, it'll complain when you try to open the trash | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | because the ioslave url isn't parsed | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: ioslave == protocol somehow :) | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | fun | 02:19 |
| Jucato | :D | 02:20 |
| Jucato | that reminds me... | 02:20 |
| === Jucato checks something | ||
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: bah that's pretty easy to patch btw, just that nobody seems to use dolphin by default here :) | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 02:20 |
| === Hobbsee wondrs hwo well it works here | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I want to force myself for it now, as it'll be the kde4 default :) | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | this is something we should have consider for feisty or feisty+1 in order to make the kde3 -> kde4 less disruptive for the user | 02:21 |
| Tonio_ | at least that's my opinion ;) | 02:21 |
| === Jucato tries to install Ubuntu's dolphin... | ||
| Tonio_ | Jucato: if you do so, do the following : | 02:21 |
| === larsivi likes Krusader better in any case ... | ||
| Jucato | another thing we'll have to consider will be the Kate vs KWrite thing | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | edit kmenu and change exec for dolphin to : dolphin | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: then go in kcontrol, components, file associations | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | choose inode and then directory | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | and add dolphin by default instead of konq | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: if you don't do that the integration will be really bad | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: why would we go with kwrite? | 02:22 |
| Tonio_ | bt with those settings, it is pretty nice | 02:22 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: because Kate has been removed from kdebase | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | ahh | 02:23 |
| Jucato | kwrite will be the default and only text editor for KDE 4 | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | maybe I should patch the desktop file to handle directory by default | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: wouldnt you need both dolphin and konqi? | 02:23 |
| Jucato | (actually kwrite is the default text editor on kde 3 afaik) | 02:23 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: but kate seems to have mroe stuff, and work better | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | so that the user would only have to choose which is the default in fact, instead of adding dolphin...... let's do that | 02:23 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: I agree with you. but apparently, upstream guys in charge don't :( | 02:23 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: that was what I was going to ask btw. when I compiled dolphin 0.8.2 from source, there wasn't a Dolphin entry added to File Associations | 02:24 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: I'm patching this right now | 02:24 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: ah ok. so it was a known bug | 02:25 |
| Tonio_ | lot of users might test it in the future so we have to get it correctly integrated | 02:25 |
| Jucato | (btw, there's no entry for kmplayer also) | 02:25 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: not a bug, but annoying missing feature, yes | 02:25 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 02:25 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: so I change dolphin %i %m -caption "%c" to plain "dolphin" in the K Menu entry? | 02:26 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: dolphin | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: dolphin "" | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | argh.... | 02:28 |
| Jucato | ah | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | dolphin 'percent U' | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | % | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | % U | 02:28 |
| Jucato | hehe %U | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | without a space.... | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | what's that bug ? | 02:28 |
| Jucato | having troubles with Konvi? :P | 02:28 |
| Jucato | no it's not a bug. %Uword%U = word | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: hehe, look like yes | 02:29 |
| Jucato | Tonio_: you have to put % twice to "escape" the % | 02:29 |
| Tonio_ | %U | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | right | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | so dolphin %U | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | or wait for my update to go in the repos :) | 02:32 |
| Jucato | ok :) | 02:32 |
| Jucato | hm... does your update also update Dolphin to 0.8.2? :D | 02:32 |
| Jucato | I have a few "topics" in mind too btw | 02:33 |
| Jucato | er sorry wrong window lol | 02:33 |
| Jucato | (wrong tab sheesh!) | 02:33 |
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| Tonio_ | Jucato: no | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: requires uvf exception, I'll look at that later | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | maybe this we | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: depends if the new version changes many things | 02:37 |
| Jucato | hm... it's the last release for KDE 3.5.x, so I thought it would be in Feisty. just realized now that it wasn't :) | 02:38 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: hum, it dissapeared from kde-apps | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: have a url ? | 02:39 |
| Jucato | http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/download.html | 02:39 |
| Jucato | I guess nothing changed much anyway | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | Changes: | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | Updated German translation (thanks to Jannick Kuhr) | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | Updated Polish translation (thanks to Piotr Malinski) | 02:39 |
| Jucato | just translations | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | yup, no need to go with uvf for this | 02:39 |
| Tonio_ | Jucato: better patching the current for good integration | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | :) | 02:40 |
| Jucato | :) | 02:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can that be a topic for the UDS ? | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: provide dolphin as the default file manager for smooth transition to kde4 for the user ? | 02:41 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: what? | 02:41 |
| === Jucato wonders if Kubuntu will stick with Kate too... | ||
| Riddell | Tonio_: hmm | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'd like to consider and discuss this | 02:42 |
| Riddell | could do | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: as long as there is a very easy way to switch back to konqueror as the default for those who would like too :) | 02:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: thanks :) I'll prepare a little speech for the uds then | 02:43 |
| Jucato | how about a patch to default applications kcm? adding a File Manager entry? wouldn't that be a better way than going through File Associations? | 02:43 |
| rouzic | Tonio_, Riddell, Jucato: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/103413 | 02:44 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 103413 in linux-source-2.6.20 "(Feisty) During boot, configuring network interface is very slow" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | yep, confirmed here | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | booting takes about 5 minutes for I'd say 3 or 4 days | 02:44 |
| === Jucato hasn't rebooted yet O.o | ||
| rouzic | Tonio_: when there can be a solution for this bug? | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | rouzic: better ask #ubuntu-devel on that point | 02:46 |
| rouzic | Thanks Tonio_ | 02:46 |
| Tonio_ | or #ubuntu-kernel | 02:46 |
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| Erunno | Happy Eastern all :) Does anyone here know if the kxdocker packages have been fixed in Feisty ? | 02:48 |
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| Hobbsee | Erunno: what's broken with them? | 02:49 |
| Erunno | Hobbsee: There seems to be a configuration file missing and without it kxdocker refuses to start. I'll install the package and tell you which one. | 02:51 |
| Erunno | Hobbsee: It's kxdocker_conf.xml | 02:53 |
| === Hobbsee bashes flash against a brick wall. repeatedly. | ||
| Hobbsee | why oh why must flash instantly die when i try to show it to someone? | 02:57 |
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| larsivi | can the Java plugin that Firefox use be easily integrated in Konqueror? | 02:58 |
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| Hobbsee | larsivi: not at this point | 02:59 |
| Jucato | sun-java6-plugin? | 02:59 |
| larsivi | Jucato: hmm, maybe I've not tried well enough | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | (feature freeze) | 03:00 |
| Jucato | it's in the repos | 03:00 |
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| Hobbsee | Erunno: does it work if you ".kde/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml" ? | 03:00 |
| Erunno | Hobbsee: Not sure what you mean, but the directory is empty. | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | argh | 03:04 |
| Hobbsee | Erunno: does it work if you "touch .kde/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml" ? | 03:04 |
| Erunno | Hobbsee: No, still the same error message. | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | thought it might. | 03:05 |
| === Hobbsee wonders what's *supposed* to be in hte xml file | ||
| Hobbsee | oh, ick. i remember this | 03:06 |
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| Erunno | Hobbsee: It works (kind of= when you get the xml file from the source package, but there seems to be some problems with the redrawing of the background image. | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | the one of length 0? | 03:07 |
| Erunno | Hobbsee: Err, no ;-) Might be that I got a semi-working xml file from the debian package. It's been a while since I last tried to get the thing working. | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 03:11 |
| Hobbsee | well, if you do, please come in here and tell us :) | 03:11 |
| Erunno | Hobbsee: O.o | 03:13 |
| Hobbsee | Erunno: ? | 03:15 |
| Hobbsee | hrm. i guess we'd have to make a default kubuntu config file or something for it | 03:17 |
| Hobbsee | Erunno: argh. this config file is messy, and is going to be distro-specific | 03:23 |
| Erunno | Hobbsee: Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Kxdocker got discontinued by the way. | 03:24 |
| Hobbsee | i thought it did, yeah. | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | may well be why debian hasnt updated it | 03:25 |
| === Hobbsee found the slackware config files | ||
| nixternal | morning | 03:25 |
| Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 03:25 |
| nixternal | do we have anything that needs 64bit testing at all, I can finally help out :) | 03:25 |
| nixternal | my new system worked oob with Kubuntu Beta | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | nice! | 03:26 |
| nixternal | I need to get pbuilder rolling on it as well | 03:28 |
| Tonio_ | honnestly, Dolphin rocks once correctly configured.... | 03:29 |
| nixternal | I will agree to that, it is nice, but I just can't seem to get away from "alt + space -> konqu -> enter" | 03:31 |
| manchicken | Oh happy day. | 03:33 |
| nixternal | oh happy days | 03:33 |
| manchicken | Oh happy daaay. | 03:33 |
| === nixternal pictures a southside church when I hear "Oh happy daaay" | ||
| nixternal | hahahahaha | 03:33 |
| nixternal | I knew it was coming | 03:33 |
| manchicken | That's what I'm singin' brother. | 03:33 |
| manchicken | Sing with me! | 03:33 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:33 |
| === Hobbsee aint singing :P | ||
| nixternal | my church does not do that song justice, the south side baptist churches rock that song out | 03:34 |
| manchicken | When Jesus walks, and rescues me from this jerk at DoubleClick and brings me to a new job that will suck just a big less. | 03:34 |
| nixternal | lol | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 03:34 |
| === Hobbsee missed church today :( | ||
| nixternal | AMEN! | 03:34 |
| manchicken | Dude, Dacia and I went to a SERIOUS Holy Rollers church here in Champaign. | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | work was too late last night for me to make it | 03:34 |
| manchicken | It was called the "Glory Center" | 03:34 |
| manchicken | Like, the drummer and the bass player kept playing all the way through the sermon. | 03:35 |
| nixternal | manchicken: omg, my x-girlfriend, her granny lives down there, and is a whicked christian, to the point she almost called me the devil. I went to a couple of those churches down there | 03:35 |
| manchicken | My ears were ringing the rest of the day. | 03:35 |
| manchicken | I've never been called evil. | 03:35 |
| nixternal | I have to make it on Saturday night Hobbsee, or my family will throw me away | 03:36 |
| manchicken | Though my mother-in-law was scared that I was an alcoholic because I keep beer in my house. | 03:36 |
| nixternal | haha | 03:36 |
| Riddell | fabo: how does /etc/rcS.d/S60displayconfig-hwprobe.py get created? | 03:36 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Did that fix do better this time? | 03:38 |
| Riddell | manchicken: yes thanks, works great, uploaded | 03:39 |
| manchicken | Sweet. | 03:39 |
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| Tonio_ | @zAqw>a>AQ><<<< | 03:56 |
| Tonio_ | sorry... | 03:56 |
| === Tonio_ cleans his keyboard and doesn't want to reboot ;) | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 03:57 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: note that <> is the most dirty key :) | 03:58 |
| Tonio_ | to much php ;) | 03:58 |
| Hobbsee | so it seems :P | 03:59 |
| === Hobbsee hands Tonio_ a "lock screen" | ||
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: no lock screen key on a mac :) | 03:59 |
| manchicken | Mornin' Tonio. | 04:00 |
| manchicken | I can't stand running only windows on this machine. | 04:00 |
| manchicken | It makes my heard ache. | 04:00 |
| manchicken | This looks like a job for vmware. | 04:00 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ahh | 04:01 |
| Tonio_ | manchicken: eventually, yes :) | 04:01 |
| Tonio_ | hum there is something I'd like to get fixed for feisty.... | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: can you confirm this ? | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: launch systemsettings, kdeprint | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | then select "server", "configure" | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | you'll get a nasty prompt about unknown options | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | we should patch to remove the message I guess... | 04:04 |
| nixternal | Tonio_: I can confirm it | 04:04 |
| Tonio_ | the point is I don't understand why he doesn't recognize those options | 04:05 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: yep | 04:05 |
| manchicken | Tonio_: You weird Europeans and your "time zones" | 04:05 |
| nixternal | haha yes | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | they are very old in cups | 04:05 |
| fabo | Riddell: kde-guidance.init (dh_installinit) | 04:05 |
| nixternal | require = user @OWNER @SYSTEM | 04:05 |
| nixternal | order = deny,allow | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | same for me | 04:05 |
| nixternal | and then some | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | that should be "unrecognized" | 04:05 |
| nixternal | ya, I noticed it the other day actually | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | they are in cups forever | 04:05 |
| Tonio_ | so what to do ? | 04:06 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 04:06 |
| nixternal | found the cout and - it | 04:06 |
| nixternal | heh | 04:06 |
| Tonio_ | patch to remove the prompt sounds a bit hackish, but well...... | 04:06 |
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| Tonio_ | nixternal: I'll try to get that patched this WE if I have time for this | 04:06 |
| Tonio_ | but there is a bug behind that... better to fix it | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | I don't want to spend 3 days searching on kde bts, as there are about 50000 kdeprint related bugs :) | 04:07 |
| Tonio_ | I already tried to sync with svn, doesn't help | 04:07 |
| nixternal | ouch | 04:07 |
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| Tonio_ | nixternal: yeah kdeprint is a nightmare for this...... | 04:08 |
| Tonio_ | impossible to filter for a specific issue on that bloated kde bts | 04:08 |
| nixternal | I am looking at it now | 04:08 |
| nixternal | 28.8mb sounds bloated to me | 04:09 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: wish tou good luck :) | 04:09 |
| nixternal | 29.6mb | 04:09 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 04:09 |
| nixternal | CUPS isn't even that big | 04:09 |
| === manchicken hugs CUPS... | ||
| nixternal | derr | 04:10 |
| nixternal | kdeprint == kdebase which means nixternal == dumbie! | 04:11 |
| nixternal | dumbie? | 04:11 |
| nixternal | dummy | 04:11 |
| manchicken | Pssht. Can't even spell "dummy" what a dummy. | 04:12 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:12 |
| Riddell | fabo: I'm quite confused by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/87381 | 04:14 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 87381 in kde-guidance "[apport] displayconfig-hwprobe.py crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 04:14 |
| Tonio_ | nixternal: kdeprint is divided in kdelibs and kdebase | 04:14 |
| Riddell | fabo: I don't see how they can have displayconfig-hwprobe.py but not ScanPCI.py, they're part of the same package in the same directory | 04:14 |
| nixternal | what package is system-settings apart of? | 04:15 |
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| nixternal | foudn it | 04:17 |
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| Riddell | nixternal: kde-systemsettings | 04:28 |
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| Riddell | fabo: looks like it's from the old dapper install, that's the only place it can be | 04:35 |
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| manchicken_ | Riddell: Did we roll the tabs out of kde-systemsettings? | 04:38 |
| manchicken | (on purpose) | 04:39 |
| Jucato | roll out how? | 04:40 |
| manchicken | As in I don't see that tabbed interface I did in kde-systemsettings anymore. | 04:40 |
| Jucato | hm... unless you update from a different source, I still see them here... | 04:41 |
| === Jucato runs update again | ||
| Riddell | manchicken: nope | 04:42 |
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| nixternal | manchicken: I still have the tabbed interface | 04:42 |
| manchicken | Hmm.... | 04:43 |
| manchicken | AAH!!! | 04:43 |
| manchicken | I know why I wasn't seeing them. | 04:43 |
| manchicken | I was ssh -YC'ing to my edgy box. | 04:43 |
| manchicken | I suppose that would explain it :) | 04:43 |
| Jucato | :D | 04:44 |
| nixternal | haha | 04:44 |
| manchicken | I hear that nexenta is running with dpkg and apt-get... | 04:47 |
| manchicken | That could make life easier. | 04:47 |
| Riddell | fabo: is there any way to tell dh_installinit what init number to install at? I seem to remember it has to be 60 and not 20 because it uses /var | 04:49 |
| Jucato | manchicken or Riddell: the column sorting in Adept is still not fixed with the latest updates. dunno if it's a bug or a feature or a side-effect | 04:52 |
| Riddell | Jucato: mm, I noticed that too | 04:52 |
| Riddell | with much the same conclusion :) | 04:52 |
| Jucato | hehe :) | 04:52 |
| manchicken | Does it sort incorrectly or not at all? I can't remember | 04:53 |
| Jucato | not at all | 04:53 |
| manchicken | Let me look at it today. | 04:53 |
| manchicken | Riddell: Is there an up to date branch? | 04:53 |
| manchicken | Ewww, nexenta is running gnome | 04:54 |
| Jucato | :D | 04:54 |
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| Riddell | manchicken: not at all | 05:00 |
| Riddell | manchicken: my repository is up to date | 05:01 |
| Riddell | fabo: another infrastructure one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/72233, the prerm script from powermanager removes all the python-support links for kde-guidance too | 05:06 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 72233 in kde-guidance "Unable to remove powermanager w/o making displayconfig-restore unuseable" [Low,Confirmed] | 05:06 |
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| manchicken | Hmm... | 05:18 |
| manchicken | Time to look into the nexenta chan. | 05:18 |
| asyd | interest by create a new version with kde ? | 05:19 |
| asyd | (I'm a member of OpenSolaris community) | 05:19 |
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| giangy | 'evening | 06:43 |
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| ryanakca | Is anybody working on http://www.kubuntu.org ? | 08:33 |
| === ryanakca thinks it needs a makeover... | ||
| Riddell | ryanakca: there's a testbed drupal setup that mhb has access to, I scheduled a session at UDS to discuss ideas for it | 08:35 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: yeah, I have the link to it... | 08:36 |
| ryanakca | kk | 08:36 |
| ryanakca | When/where's the next one? | 08:36 |
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| ryanakca | ah, spain | 08:37 |
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| Riddell | ryanakca: link to which? | 08:38 |
| mhb | nothing | 08:42 |
| === mhb shoots ryanakca | ||
| === ryanakca dies | ||
| ryanakca | mhb: I'm not that... 'dense'. | 08:45 |
| === ryanakca points ubuntulog out to mhb. | ||
| mhb | Riddell: kwwii has not yet decided how the page should look, so I havent made much progress on it | 08:47 |
| nixternal | I think it should look like.... are you ready? | 08:47 |
| nixternal | I have no clue either, but I got you lookin' didn't I :P | 08:47 |
| ryanakca | lol | 08:47 |
| nixternal | I am currently developing a university wiki for our school. and boy does this stink | 08:48 |
| mhb | nixternal: Ken surely has a clue, he is just way too busy to find the time for that | 08:48 |
| mhb | understandable | 08:48 |
| nixternal | web development is fun...sometimes | 08:48 |
| nixternal | Wikimedia is "a lot" | 08:48 |
| nixternal | custozing the monobook theme isn't fun either, drupal, plone, joomla, zope, they are easy | 08:49 |
| vprints | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/102544 | 08:49 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102544 in kdegraphics "Firefox uses not fully functional Kghostview to open PDF's in KDE instead of the system default KPDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 08:49 |
| nixternal | modifying a wordpress theme is like using a coloring book | 08:49 |
| vprints | could you comment on that | 08:49 |
| nixternal | comment like "if you want embedded you use Konqui" :) | 08:50 |
| nixternal | ahh | 08:51 |
| vprints | if you nixternal make conqueror eat estonian ID cards and digital signatures, honestly i will | 08:51 |
| vprints | konqueror | 08:51 |
| nixternal | that is a good idea actually out of the box, I change ff first thing though to point to kpdf | 08:51 |
| vprints | * mabe vprints's english is so bad he understood nixternal wrong :) | 08:52 |
| ryanakca | where would that be fixed? k-d-s? | 08:53 |
| vprints | question to me ? | 08:54 |
| ryanakca | anybody | 08:54 |
| vprints | i actually don't know where the mailcap entries are :D | 08:56 |
| vprints | could somebody support that? | 08:58 |
| Riddell | it's kghostview.mime and kpdf.mime in kdepim source | 09:01 |
| Riddell | they're broth priority 5 but I guess kghost view is alphabetically first so it is the choice | 09:01 |
| ryanakca | ah | 09:02 |
| Riddell | vprints: edit the priority in /usr/lib/mime/packages/kpdf to 6, run sudo update-mime and see if that helps | 09:03 |
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| ryanakca | hey allee | 09:09 |
| allee | hi ryanakca | 09:09 |
| vprints | Riddell, yes it helps | 09:13 |
| manchicken | Ooh, I didn't know that gnewsense-kde used adept, too. | 09:22 |
| Riddell | it has to use something | 09:22 |
| Riddell | question is how to do stuff like the supported column and dist upgrader for deriviatives like that | 09:23 |
| manchicken | Yeah. | 09:23 |
| manchicken | We should probably try to compile adept without KUBUNTU defined and see if it actually compiles. heh | 09:23 |
| manchicken | I haven't even tried that. | 09:23 |
| Riddell | I suspect it doesn't | 09:24 |
| manchicken | I'll try | 09:24 |
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| manchicken | heh, the about ubuntu package exists for gnewsense | 09:28 |
| manchicken | I wonder which distro it sprung from.... | 09:28 |
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| mhb | manchicken: and Ubuntu uses debian-installer, for example. That's the way it goes... | 09:30 |
| Riddell | mhb: fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/103394 in rosetta, although I'm still not sure what the actual cause is. let me know if it works on sunday | 09:31 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 103394 in kdelibs "broken translations in Kubuntu Feisty (daily langpack)" [Critical,Fix committed] | 09:31 |
| mhb | Riddell: I've heard, will try | 09:32 |
| Riddell | thanks | 09:37 |
| manchicken | mhb: Yeah. Good fun though. :) | 09:38 |
| giangy | Riddell: can't your hint above "resolve" this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/102544 | 09:40 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102544 in kdegraphics "Firefox uses not fully functional Kghostview to open PDF's in KDE instead of the system default KPDF" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] | 09:40 |
| giangy | I'll try :-) | 09:40 |
| Riddell | giangy: it does | 09:41 |
| Riddell | that's what we were talking about | 09:41 |
| giangy | okey, I'll paste it to this bug and close it | 09:42 |
| giangy | is it okay? | 09:42 |
| giangy | ah damn | 09:42 |
| giangy | it's the same author. | 09:42 |
| giangy | :)) | 09:43 |
| giangy | vprints, Riddell: sorry heh. | 09:43 |
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| mhb | hmm, one big stupid mhb-like question: is having "automatic updates" as in "user doesn't have to do anything except maybe issuing a password" against the K/ubuntu way? | 09:47 |
| vprints | Ridell, who is the maintainer of the mime system? | 09:52 |
| Riddell | mhb: where do you see that? | 10:04 |
| Riddell | mhb: but no it wouldn't be | 10:04 |
| Riddell | vprints: nobody, it's per package | 10:04 |
| vprints | k | 10:05 |
| mhb | Riddell: neither in ubuntu nor in kubuntu is a system which would allow for 100% automatic updates, so I thought it is not desired maybe | 10:05 |
| vprints | Riddell, can you support it ? | 10:06 |
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| mhb | when I open systemsettings the Monitor & Display icon is blurred ... does somebody experience that too? | 10:47 |
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| vprints | Yes, i was thinking about reporting that | 10:51 |
| vprints | but i thought then i'll get too annoying :) | 10:52 |
| nrg88 | hi guys, i made a patch which fixes bug #57102 on launchpad, and attached the diff file to the bugreport ( for kubuntu-default-settings ), can anyone apply it and check it out? | 10:52 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 57102 in kubuntu-default-settings "Kubuntu Package Manager problem: package doesn't get installed when it is in a directory with spaces on its name" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57102 | 10:52 |
| vprints | it seems as it is just lower resolution than the others | 10:52 |
| fdoving | nrg88: diff looks good :) | 10:56 |
| fdoving | nrg88: tonio_ is the k-d-s man. poke him or mail him. | 10:58 |
| nrg88 | yep, though i was working quite a bit on it, because i don't really know Shell scripts, only Pascal, PHP and HTML code ;) | 10:58 |
| fdoving | it's all about the "" around variables when it comes to spaces and weird chars. | 10:59 |
| nrg88 | exactly :) | 11:00 |
| fdoving | great work. | 11:00 |
| nrg88 | thanks... but how do i find out Tonio_'s email address? :D | 11:00 |
| giangy | nrg88: https://launchpad.net/~tonio | 11:01 |
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| giangy | tonio@ubuntu.com | 11:01 |
| nrg88 | thanks :) | 11:01 |
| nrg88 | next time if i have a patch, should i contact the package maintainer or the package uploader? | 11:12 |
| mhb | um | 11:15 |
| mhb | why does system settings have a menu bar? | 11:15 |
| mhb | it's really kind of useless and the usability review mockups don't have it, either | 11:16 |
| Riddell | mhb: you can set updates to install automatically in software-properties-kde | 11:21 |
| mhb | Riddell: nice | 11:23 |
| mhb | Riddell: thanks .o) | 11:24 |
| nrg88 | shouldn't there be a Report a problem menu entry in the KDE Menu? | 11:26 |
| nrg88 | in System? | 11:26 |
| nrg88 | with an exclamation mark on yellow background? | 11:26 |
| fdoving | i don't have that. | 11:28 |
| fdoving | probably rebortbug or something. | 11:28 |
| nrg88 | i've installed two copies of feisty in vmware | 11:28 |
| nrg88 | and i upgraded one | 11:29 |
| nrg88 | and it dissapeared from the menu | 11:29 |
| nrg88 | did the kubuntu developers want this Report a problem or Report a bug menu entry be present in only the beta version? | 11:29 |
| nrg88 | or is this a bug? | 11:29 |
| fdoving | find it in the menu, right-click and 'edit' or what it's named.. then find out what the binary is named. | 11:30 |
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| fdoving | then use dpkg -S /usr/bin/yourresult | 11:31 |
| fdoving | that will tell you what package it belongs to. | 11:31 |
| nrg88 | looks like i found it in the changelog | 11:34 |
| nrg88 | * debian/apport-{gtk,qt}.install: Do not install .desktop files for now, until we get a proper guided bug reporting. | 11:34 |
| manchicken | I found a nasty bug. | 11:36 |
| manchicken | In kontact, when you click links on the summary page sometimes it segfaults. | 11:37 |
| nrg88 | links? | 11:41 |
| manchicken | Yeah. | 11:41 |
| nrg88 | you mean links created when you have mail or to-dos? | 11:41 |
| manchicken | Yup | 11:42 |
| nrg88 | i'll check it out... | 11:42 |
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| nrg88 | did click on a specific category of links (for example mail), or it segfaults no matter what link you click on? | 11:42 |
| manchicken | 11:43 | |
| manchicken | I think it's done it for akregator stuff, too. | 11:44 |
| nrg88 | i think i'll do some tests | 11:48 |
| nrg88 | if it can be reproduced, a bug report should be filled in LP | 11:48 |
| fdoving | file it with upstream instead.. or first anyway. | 11:50 |
| fdoving | most bugs that are not packaging related should be filed upstream. | 11:51 |
| fdoving | an LP-bug with links to the upstream BTS doesn't hurt though. | 11:51 |
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