=== rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@dslb-084-057-035-121.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:20] yawn === kwwii [n=kwwii@p54957807.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:54] manchicken: get my e-mail? [12:54] did it have any money attached? [12:54] ;) [12:55] The one about it killing the indicator icon? [12:55] Yeah, I've been trying to shoot that one down for an hour or so now. [12:55] I'm sure that as I get more comfortable with C++ it will be easier, but the semantics of the language are just biting me in the ass. [12:56] adept is more difficult than most because it uses stl stuff rather than nice Qt [12:56] Right now I'm trying to figure out how to get the overridden pixmap method to call a parent pixmap method, but due to constness it's proving to be more trouble than I thought. [12:56] Yes. [12:56] I totally agree. [12:56] though this problem is 100% a weirdness in how the Qt stuff is done. [12:56] yes, qt 3 list views are curious things [12:56] Overriding the virtuals in Qt seems to cause headache sometimes. [12:56] adept takes it to the limit really [12:57] Curious is an exceptionally polite term for them :) [12:58] I wish I could tell the compiler "yes, I know it's a const. I'd like to treat it like a const as well... but you're bitching about nothing" [12:58] But I can't... because it's only a program. [12:58] And no matter how much you'd like to, you can't slap the sense into a program. [01:04] uhm [01:09] consts are crazy things [01:10] it means about 10 different things in c++ [01:10] heh, I know named constants, and you mean there are more? ;p [01:13] Riddell: have you see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/102345 ? [01:13] Malone bug 102345 in kde-guidance "kde guidance does not display cpu frequency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [01:14] heh, I just noticed that, my CPU is 0mhz [01:16] giangy: lure or sebas might respond faster to that than me [01:16] okey, I'll ping lure or sebas tomorrow [01:29] what's stl? [01:29] standard template library [01:31] i wonder how adept 3 is going and whether it'll be less complicated dev-wise === Jucato is amused at how adept is complicated both dev-wise and user-wise :D === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-67-143.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:47] wth i just randomly got logged out. and lost my session :-\ [01:49] Riddell: It took a while, and it's a little hacky, but I got it done. [01:51] manchicken: ooh! [01:51] does qt4 listview allow for these things without being hacky? === Riddell hugs manchicken === yuriy hugs manchicken too [01:51] yuriy: qt 4 treewidget seems pretty flexible [01:51] And now I'm going to try to do it without creating separate objects for each item :) === manchicken hugs const pointers... [01:52] Riddell: kde4admin - graphics applications for KDE 4 testing [01:52] that seems bit funny [01:52] Riddell: Disregard that previous patch altogether. [01:53] Riddell: This one is quite different from it. [01:53] I hate not having a bzr branch to go off of though. [01:53] I have to clean up the patches manually due to conflicts. [01:54] i don't see a kde4admin.. [01:56] neither do I... [02:00] it'll still be in NEW [02:00] alleeEdgy32_: "ach@mpe.mpg.de has been removed from kubuntu-devel" [02:04] mornfall will probably yell at me for this patch. [02:09] Riddell: Enjoy your patch. 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[11:55] allee: no idea, that's all I got [11:55] a number were unsubscribed at the same time [11:55] Riddell: no, info about it in my mailbox. I'll resubscribe again. Thx for the hint === larsivi [n=larsivi@062016230103.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:22] finally! KNetworkManager is usable! [12:24] yay! [12:25] (it was the WPA support that did it, btw) [12:26] larsivi: has there been an update recently? [12:27] mhb: with feisty I suppose? [12:28] larsivi: you said that it is usable ... network-manager with wpa support fails to connect for some chipsets [12:28] larsivi: so I wondered if there has been an update in Feisty recently that fixes bugs or something [12:28] wpa_supplicant has been working fairly well for me, but something with feisty has made it unstable (networkdeamon,avahid or similar) so I decided to test knetworkmanager again [12:28] wpa_supplicant has been working for me for 2 years (having the ipw2200 chipset) [12:29] socalled WPA personal setup (which confused me a bit, since it is not what is commonly used elsewhere) [12:30] also, on Windows I don't think passkey protected networks are differentiated between at all (WEP or WPA) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@230.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:36] hi [12:36] Riddell: want me to upload adedpt with the patch ? [12:37] did the kdm login graphics change for feisty? I think I didn't get them because the install thought I had made local changes [12:52] Tonio_: no, I'm onto it [12:52] larsivi: they didn't, check Theme=/usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu in /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc [12:52] Riddell: okay ;) [12:54] Riddell: thx, what I have === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-42-37.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ is now known as _marseillai === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db446c5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:36] anyone seen https://launchpad.net/bugs/103607 ? [01:36] Malone bug 103607 in adept "Adept-updater announces new version of Kubuntu but does not allow it to be installed (dup-of: 102782)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [01:36] Malone bug 102782 in adept "Cannot upgrade Kubuntu - 'next' button is disabled" [Low,Fix committed] [01:36] ah, fix committed === Jucato has been talking about that since yesterday... [01:36] s/talking/asking [01:36] :) [01:37] imho, it's a "false" notfication though... [01:40] Jucato: i've been looking at MOTU-type documentation stuff, btw. i'd be interested to see what you thought of it, at some point [01:40] Hobbsee: resuming MOTU studies on Monday or Tuesday :) [01:40] loooong holiday :) [01:40] :D [01:40] not that I don't want to "work"... just that I can't... [01:40] bah. this wont be done anytime soon [01:41] just 2 general preliminary comments though: info/link overload (for the wiki) and probably too high an entry level (for the packaging guide). emphasis on the "probably" there === Jucato will be comparing the Debian and Ubuntu guides to get a better overview === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@dslb-082-083-130-233.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:43] I think I came across a MOTU page about cleaning up and organizing the MOTU docs though. MOTU/Documentation/TODO iirc [01:43] yeah. it's all pretty bad === Hobbsee sorts plane tickets nad the like first [01:43] heh :) === Hobbsee wondres where her passport is === Jucato wonders when he wil have need of one :D === Hobbsee panics === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Hobbsee ARRRRGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [01:57] === Hobbsee notes that putting things in a very safe place where they wont get lost usually means that she'll never find them again1!! [02:00] heh :) === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] Hi [02:01] <\sh> Czessi: when you are online, please login into your jabber account ;) [02:04] Hobbsee: Hi [02:05] hi rouzic :) [02:06] Hobbsee: 2 days ago actualiz the packages avahi - *, and from this moment the take-off me is late almost 2 minutes when the message appears " start the configuration network " [02:07] rouzic: sorry? [02:08] Kubuntu's take-off is late 2 minutes since I updated the paquetea avahi- [02:17] Hobbsee: I'll patch dolphin to support urls [02:17] Tonio_: nice [02:17] Hobbsee: there is an issue in the desktop file so that you get an error message when opening trash:/ or remote:/ with dolphin [02:17] ahhh [02:17] Hobbsee: the famous s/%f/ ;) [02:17] ahhh [02:18] simple exec command in the desktop file that doesn't consider urls [02:18] Hobbsee: I'l propose the patch upstream but I'm pretty sure that's already fixed, du to kde4 inclusion by default [02:18] :) [02:18] Tonio_: URLs? as in http:/ O.o [02:19] Jucato: no, ioslaves [02:19] aaaaah :) [02:19] for a moment there, I thought... :D [02:19] Jucato: for example if you set dolphin as the default file manager, it'll complain when you try to open the trash [02:19] because the ioslave url isn't parsed [02:19] Jucato: ioslave == protocol somehow :) [02:19] fun [02:20] :D [02:20] that reminds me... === Jucato checks something === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:20] Hobbsee: bah that's pretty easy to patch btw, just that nobody seems to use dolphin by default here :) [02:20] heh === Hobbsee wondrs hwo well it works here [02:20] Hobbsee: I want to force myself for it now, as it'll be the kde4 default :) [02:21] this is something we should have consider for feisty or feisty+1 in order to make the kde3 -> kde4 less disruptive for the user [02:21] at least that's my opinion ;) === Jucato tries to install Ubuntu's dolphin... [02:21] Jucato: if you do so, do the following : === larsivi likes Krusader better in any case ... [02:22] another thing we'll have to consider will be the Kate vs KWrite thing [02:22] edit kmenu and change exec for dolphin to : dolphin [02:22] Jucato: then go in kcontrol, components, file associations [02:22] choose inode and then directory [02:22] and add dolphin by default instead of konq [02:22] Jucato: if you don't do that the integration will be really bad [02:22] Jucato: why would we go with kwrite? [02:22] bt with those settings, it is pretty nice [02:23] Hobbsee: because Kate has been removed from kdebase [02:23] ahh [02:23] kwrite will be the default and only text editor for KDE 4 [02:23] maybe I should patch the desktop file to handle directory by default [02:23] Tonio_: wouldnt you need both dolphin and konqi? [02:23] (actually kwrite is the default text editor on kde 3 afaik) [02:23] Jucato: but kate seems to have mroe stuff, and work better [02:23] so that the user would only have to choose which is the default in fact, instead of adding dolphin...... let's do that [02:23] Hobbsee: I agree with you. but apparently, upstream guys in charge don't :( [02:24] Tonio_: that was what I was going to ask btw. when I compiled dolphin 0.8.2 from source, there wasn't a Dolphin entry added to File Associations [02:24] Jucato: I'm patching this right now [02:25] Tonio_: ah ok. so it was a known bug [02:25] lot of users might test it in the future so we have to get it correctly integrated [02:25] (btw, there's no entry for kmplayer also) [02:25] Jucato: not a bug, but annoying missing feature, yes [02:25] :) [02:26] Tonio_: so I change dolphin %i %m -caption "%c" to plain "dolphin" in the K Menu entry? [02:28] Jucato: dolphin [02:28] Jucato: dolphin "" [02:28] argh.... [02:28] ah [02:28] dolphin 'percent U' [02:28] % [02:28] % U [02:28] hehe %U [02:28] without a space.... [02:28] what's that bug ? [02:28] having troubles with Konvi? :P [02:28] no it's not a bug. %Uword%U = word [02:29] Jucato: hehe, look like yes [02:29] Tonio_: you have to put % twice to "escape" the % [02:31] %U [02:31] right [02:32] so dolphin %U [02:32] or wait for my update to go in the repos :) [02:32] ok :) [02:32] hm... does your update also update Dolphin to 0.8.2? :D [02:33] I have a few "topics" in mind too btw [02:33] er sorry wrong window lol [02:33] (wrong tab sheesh!) === rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:37] Jucato: no [02:37] Jucato: requires uvf exception, I'll look at that later [02:37] maybe this we [02:37] Jucato: depends if the new version changes many things [02:38] hm... it's the last release for KDE 3.5.x, so I thought it would be in Feisty. just realized now that it wasn't :) [02:39] Jucato: hum, it dissapeared from kde-apps [02:39] Jucato: have a url ? [02:39] http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/download.html [02:39] I guess nothing changed much anyway [02:39] Changes: [02:39] Updated German translation (thanks to Jannick Kuhr) [02:39] Updated Polish translation (thanks to Piotr Malinski) [02:39] just translations [02:39] yup, no need to go with uvf for this [02:40] Jucato: better patching the current for good integration [02:40] :) [02:40] :) [02:41] Riddell: can that be a topic for the UDS ? [02:41] Riddell: provide dolphin as the default file manager for smooth transition to kde4 for the user ? === Erunno [n=matthes@stgt-590e26a7.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:41] Tonio_: what? === Jucato wonders if Kubuntu will stick with Kate too... [02:42] Tonio_: hmm [02:42] Riddell: I'd like to consider and discuss this [02:42] could do [02:42] Riddell: as long as there is a very easy way to switch back to konqueror as the default for those who would like too :) [02:43] Riddell: thanks :) I'll prepare a little speech for the uds then [02:43] how about a patch to default applications kcm? adding a File Manager entry? wouldn't that be a better way than going through File Associations? [02:44] Tonio_, Riddell, Jucato: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/103413 [02:44] Malone bug 103413 in linux-source-2.6.20 "(Feisty) During boot, configuring network interface is very slow" [Undecided,Confirmed] [02:44] yep, confirmed here [02:44] booting takes about 5 minutes for I'd say 3 or 4 days === Jucato hasn't rebooted yet O.o [02:46] Tonio_: when there can be a solution for this bug? [02:46] rouzic: better ask #ubuntu-devel on that point [02:46] Thanks Tonio_ [02:46] or #ubuntu-kernel === wsjunior [n=wsjunior@unaffiliated/wsjunior] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:48] Happy Eastern all :) Does anyone here know if the kxdocker packages have been fixed in Feisty ? === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] Erunno: what's broken with them? [02:51] Hobbsee: There seems to be a configuration file missing and without it kxdocker refuses to start. I'll install the package and tell you which one. [02:53] Hobbsee: It's kxdocker_conf.xml === Hobbsee bashes flash against a brick wall. repeatedly. [02:57] why oh why must flash instantly die when i try to show it to someone? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@230.8.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:58] can the Java plugin that Firefox use be easily integrated in Konqueror? === \sh is now known as \sh_away [02:59] larsivi: not at this point [02:59] sun-java6-plugin? [03:00] Jucato: hmm, maybe I've not tried well enough [03:00] (feature freeze) [03:00] it's in the repos === Jucato goes for dinner [03:00] Erunno: does it work if you ".kde/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml" ? [03:04] Hobbsee: Not sure what you mean, but the directory is empty. [03:04] argh [03:04] Erunno: does it work if you "touch .kde/share/apps/kxdocker/kxdocker_conf.xml" ? [03:05] Hobbsee: No, still the same error message. [03:05] thought it might. === Hobbsee wonders what's *supposed* to be in hte xml file [03:06] oh, ick. i remember this === RadiantFire [n=ryan@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:07] Hobbsee: It works (kind of= when you get the xml file from the source package, but there seems to be some problems with the redrawing of the background image. [03:07] the one of length 0? [03:11] Hobbsee: Err, no ;-) Might be that I got a semi-working xml file from the debian package. It's been a while since I last tried to get the thing working. [03:11] ahhh [03:11] well, if you do, please come in here and tell us :) [03:13] Hobbsee: O.o [03:15] Erunno: ? [03:17] hrm. i guess we'd have to make a default kubuntu config file or something for it [03:23] Erunno: argh. this config file is messy, and is going to be distro-specific [03:24] Hobbsee: Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Kxdocker got discontinued by the way. [03:25] i thought it did, yeah. [03:25] may well be why debian hasnt updated it === Hobbsee found the slackware config files [03:25] morning [03:25] hi nixternal [03:25] do we have anything that needs 64bit testing at all, I can finally help out :) [03:26] my new system worked oob with Kubuntu Beta [03:26] nice! [03:28] I need to get pbuilder rolling on it as well [03:29] honnestly, Dolphin rocks once correctly configured.... [03:31] I will agree to that, it is nice, but I just can't seem to get away from "alt + space -> konqu -> enter" [03:33] Oh happy day. [03:33] oh happy days [03:33] Oh happy daaay. === nixternal pictures a southside church when I hear "Oh happy daaay" [03:33] hahahahaha [03:33] I knew it was coming [03:33] That's what I'm singin' brother. [03:33] Sing with me! [03:33] heh === Hobbsee aint singing :P [03:34] my church does not do that song justice, the south side baptist churches rock that song out [03:34] When Jesus walks, and rescues me from this jerk at DoubleClick and brings me to a new job that will suck just a big less. [03:34] lol [03:34] haha === Hobbsee missed church today :( [03:34] AMEN! [03:34] Dude, Dacia and I went to a SERIOUS Holy Rollers church here in Champaign. [03:34] work was too late last night for me to make it [03:34] It was called the "Glory Center" [03:35] Like, the drummer and the bass player kept playing all the way through the sermon. [03:35] manchicken: omg, my x-girlfriend, her granny lives down there, and is a whicked christian, to the point she almost called me the devil. I went to a couple of those churches down there [03:35] My ears were ringing the rest of the day. [03:35] I've never been called evil. [03:36] I have to make it on Saturday night Hobbsee, or my family will throw me away [03:36] Though my mother-in-law was scared that I was an alcoholic because I keep beer in my house. [03:36] haha [03:36] fabo: how does /etc/rcS.d/S60displayconfig-hwprobe.py get created? [03:38] Riddell: Did that fix do better this time? [03:39] manchicken: yes thanks, works great, uploaded [03:39] Sweet. === rouzic_ [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:56] @zAqw>a>AQ><<<< [03:56] sorry... === Tonio_ cleans his keyboard and doesn't want to reboot ;) [03:57] hehe [03:58] Hobbsee: note that <> is the most dirty key :) [03:58] to much php ;) [03:59] so it seems :P === Hobbsee hands Tonio_ a "lock screen" [03:59] Hobbsee: no lock screen key on a mac :) [04:00] Mornin' Tonio. [04:00] I can't stand running only windows on this machine. [04:00] It makes my heard ache. [04:00] This looks like a job for vmware. [04:01] Tonio_: ahh [04:01] manchicken: eventually, yes :) [04:04] hum there is something I'd like to get fixed for feisty.... [04:04] Hobbsee: can you confirm this ? [04:04] Hobbsee: launch systemsettings, kdeprint [04:04] then select "server", "configure" [04:04] you'll get a nasty prompt about unknown options [04:04] we should patch to remove the message I guess... [04:04] Tonio_: I can confirm it [04:05] the point is I don't understand why he doesn't recognize those options [04:05] Tonio_: yep [04:05] Tonio_: You weird Europeans and your "time zones" [04:05] haha yes [04:05] they are very old in cups [04:05] Riddell: kde-guidance.init (dh_installinit) [04:05] require = user @OWNER @SYSTEM [04:05] order = deny,allow [04:05] same for me [04:05] and then some [04:05] that should be "unrecognized" [04:05] ya, I noticed it the other day actually [04:05] they are in cups forever [04:06] so what to do ? [04:06] ;) [04:06] found the cout and - it [04:06] heh [04:06] patch to remove the prompt sounds a bit hackish, but well...... === pascalFR [i=ky2amrCh@cha92-7-82-230-174-61.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [04:06] nixternal: I'll try to get that patched this WE if I have time for this [04:07] but there is a bug behind that... better to fix it [04:07] I don't want to spend 3 days searching on kde bts, as there are about 50000 kdeprint related bugs :) [04:07] I already tried to sync with svn, doesn't help [04:07] ouch === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=apokryph@unaffiliated/apokryphos] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:08] nixternal: yeah kdeprint is a nightmare for this...... [04:08] impossible to filter for a specific issue on that bloated kde bts [04:08] I am looking at it now [04:09] 28.8mb sounds bloated to me [04:09] nixternal: wish tou good luck :) [04:09] 29.6mb [04:09] hrmm [04:09] CUPS isn't even that big === manchicken hugs CUPS... [04:10] derr [04:11] kdeprint == kdebase which means nixternal == dumbie! [04:11] dumbie? [04:11] dummy [04:12] Pssht. Can't even spell "dummy" what a dummy. [04:12] haha [04:14] fabo: I'm quite confused by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/87381 [04:14] Malone bug 87381 in kde-guidance "[apport] displayconfig-hwprobe.py crashed with ImportError in ()" [Medium,Confirmed] [04:14] nixternal: kdeprint is divided in kdelibs and kdebase [04:14] fabo: I don't see how they can have displayconfig-hwprobe.py but not ScanPCI.py, they're part of the same package in the same directory [04:15] what package is system-settings apart of? === Tonio_ out for a moment, brb [04:17] foudn it === abattoir [n=abattoir@cm204.omega17.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=cyril@AMarseille-156-1-42-37.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:28] nixternal: kde-systemsettings === larsivi is now known as larsivi|afk [04:35] fabo: looks like it's from the old dapper install, that's the only place it can be === manchicken_ [n=manchick@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:38] Riddell: Did we roll the tabs out of kde-systemsettings? [04:39] (on purpose) [04:40] roll out how? [04:40] As in I don't see that tabbed interface I did in kde-systemsettings anymore. [04:41] hm... unless you update from a different source, I still see them here... === Jucato runs update again [04:42] manchicken: nope === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-155-119-19.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:42] manchicken: I still have the tabbed interface [04:43] Hmm.... [04:43] AAH!!! [04:43] I know why I wasn't seeing them. [04:43] I was ssh -YC'ing to my edgy box. [04:43] I suppose that would explain it :) [04:44] :D [04:44] haha [04:47] I hear that nexenta is running with dpkg and apt-get... [04:47] That could make life easier. [04:49] fabo: is there any way to tell dh_installinit what init number to install at? I seem to remember it has to be 60 and not 20 because it uses /var [04:52] manchicken or Riddell: the column sorting in Adept is still not fixed with the latest updates. dunno if it's a bug or a feature or a side-effect [04:52] Jucato: mm, I noticed that too [04:52] with much the same conclusion :) [04:52] hehe :) [04:53] Does it sort incorrectly or not at all? I can't remember [04:53] not at all [04:53] Let me look at it today. [04:53] Riddell: Is there an up to date branch? [04:54] Ewww, nexenta is running gnome [04:54] :D === neversfelde [n=chrman@nrbg-4db446c5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:00] manchicken: not at all [05:01] manchicken: my repository is up to date [05:06] fabo: another infrastructure one, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/72233, the prerm script from powermanager removes all the python-support links for kde-guidance too [05:06] Malone bug 72233 in kde-guidance "Unable to remove powermanager w/o making displayconfig-restore unuseable" [Low,Confirmed] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:18] Hmm... [05:18] Time to look into the nexenta chan. [05:19] interest by create a new version with kde ? 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[08:35] ryanakca: there's a testbed drupal setup that mhb has access to, I scheduled a session at UDS to discuss ideas for it [08:36] Riddell: yeah, I have the link to it... [08:36] kk [08:36] When/where's the next one? === ryanakca googles [08:37] ah, spain === thill2708 [n=fsd@66-192-212-199.static.twtelecom.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [08:38] ryanakca: link to which? [08:42] nothing === mhb shoots ryanakca === ryanakca dies [08:45] mhb: I'm not that... 'dense'. === ryanakca points ubuntulog out to mhb. [08:47] Riddell: kwwii has not yet decided how the page should look, so I havent made much progress on it [08:47] I think it should look like.... are you ready? [08:47] I have no clue either, but I got you lookin' didn't I :P [08:47] lol [08:48] I am currently developing a university wiki for our school. and boy does this stink [08:48] nixternal: Ken surely has a clue, he is just way too busy to find the time for that [08:48] understandable [08:48] web development is fun...sometimes [08:48] Wikimedia is "a lot" [08:49] custozing the monobook theme isn't fun either, drupal, plone, joomla, zope, they are easy [08:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/102544 [08:49] Malone bug 102544 in kdegraphics "Firefox uses not fully functional Kghostview to open PDF's in KDE instead of the system default KPDF" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [08:49] modifying a wordpress theme is like using a coloring book [08:49] could you comment on that [08:50] comment like "if you want embedded you use Konqui" :) [08:51] ahh [08:51] if you nixternal make conqueror eat estonian ID cards and digital signatures, honestly i will [08:51] konqueror [08:51] that is a good idea actually out of the box, I change ff first thing though to point to kpdf [08:52] * mabe vprints's english is so bad he understood nixternal wrong :) [08:53] where would that be fixed? k-d-s? [08:54] question to me ? [08:54] anybody [08:56] i actually don't know where the mailcap entries are :D [08:58] could somebody support that? [09:01] it's kghostview.mime and kpdf.mime in kdepim source [09:01] they're broth priority 5 but I guess kghost view is alphabetically first so it is the choice [09:02] ah [09:03] vprints: edit the priority in /usr/lib/mime/packages/kpdf to 6, run sudo update-mime and see if that helps === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-127.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:09] hey allee [09:09] hi ryanakca [09:13] Riddell, yes it helps [09:22] Ooh, I didn't know that gnewsense-kde used adept, too. [09:22] it has to use something [09:23] question is how to do stuff like the supported column and dist upgrader for deriviatives like that [09:23] Yeah. [09:23] We should probably try to compile adept without KUBUNTU defined and see if it actually compiles. heh [09:23] I haven't even tried that. [09:24] I suspect it doesn't [09:24] I'll try === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure_ [n=lure@clj46-234.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] heh, the about ubuntu package exists for gnewsense [09:28] I wonder which distro it sprung from.... === Lure_ is now known as Lure [09:30] manchicken: and Ubuntu uses debian-installer, for example. That's the way it goes... [09:31] mhb: fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/103394 in rosetta, although I'm still not sure what the actual cause is. let me know if it works on sunday [09:31] Malone bug 103394 in kdelibs "broken translations in Kubuntu Feisty (daily langpack)" [Critical,Fix committed] [09:32] Riddell: I've heard, will try [09:37] thanks [09:38] mhb: Yeah. Good fun though. :) [09:40] Riddell: can't your hint above "resolve" this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdegraphics/+bug/102544 [09:40] Malone bug 102544 in kdegraphics "Firefox uses not fully functional Kghostview to open PDF's in KDE instead of the system default KPDF" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] [09:40] I'll try :-) [09:41] giangy: it does [09:41] that's what we were talking about [09:42] okey, I'll paste it to this bug and close it [09:42] is it okay? [09:42] ah damn [09:42] it's the same author. [09:43] :)) [09:43] vprints, Riddell: sorry heh. === giangy have to sleep. [09:47] hmm, one big stupid mhb-like question: is having "automatic updates" as in "user doesn't have to do anything except maybe issuing a password" against the K/ubuntu way? [09:52] Ridell, who is the maintainer of the mime system? [10:04] mhb: where do you see that? [10:04] mhb: but no it wouldn't be [10:04] vprints: nobody, it's per package [10:05] k [10:05] Riddell: neither in ubuntu nor in kubuntu is a system which would allow for 100% automatic updates, so I thought it is not desired maybe [10:06] Riddell, can you support it ? === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@pd950fbd7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] when I open systemsettings the Monitor & Display icon is blurred ... does somebody experience that too? === nrg88 [n=nrg88@86.126.206.35] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:51] Yes, i was thinking about reporting that [10:52] but i thought then i'll get too annoying :) [10:52] hi guys, i made a patch which fixes bug #57102 on launchpad, and attached the diff file to the bugreport ( for kubuntu-default-settings ), can anyone apply it and check it out? [10:52] Malone bug 57102 in kubuntu-default-settings "Kubuntu Package Manager problem: package doesn't get installed when it is in a directory with spaces on its name" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57102 [10:52] it seems as it is just lower resolution than the others [10:56] nrg88: diff looks good :) [10:58] nrg88: tonio_ is the k-d-s man. poke him or mail him. [10:58] yep, though i was working quite a bit on it, because i don't really know Shell scripts, only Pascal, PHP and HTML code ;) [10:59] it's all about the "" around variables when it comes to spaces and weird chars. [11:00] exactly :) [11:00] great work. [11:00] thanks... but how do i find out Tonio_'s email address? :D [11:01] nrg88: https://launchpad.net/~tonio === elcuco [n=elcuco@bzq-88-155-119-19.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:01] tonio@ubuntu.com [11:01] thanks :) [11:12] next time if i have a patch, should i contact the package maintainer or the package uploader? [11:15] um [11:15] why does system settings have a menu bar? [11:16] it's really kind of useless and the usability review mockups don't have it, either [11:21] mhb: you can set updates to install automatically in software-properties-kde [11:23] Riddell: nice [11:24] Riddell: thanks .o) [11:26] shouldn't there be a Report a problem menu entry in the KDE Menu? [11:26] in System? [11:26] with an exclamation mark on yellow background? [11:28] i don't have that. [11:28] probably rebortbug or something. [11:28] i've installed two copies of feisty in vmware [11:29] and i upgraded one [11:29] and it dissapeared from the menu [11:29] did the kubuntu developers want this Report a problem or Report a bug menu entry be present in only the beta version? [11:29] or is this a bug? [11:30] find it in the menu, right-click and 'edit' or what it's named.. then find out what the binary is named. === manchicken [n=manchick@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:31] then use dpkg -S /usr/bin/yourresult [11:31] that will tell you what package it belongs to. [11:34] looks like i found it in the changelog [11:34] * debian/apport-{gtk,qt}.install: Do not install .desktop files for now, until we get a proper guided bug reporting. [11:36] I found a nasty bug. [11:37] In kontact, when you click links on the summary page sometimes it segfaults. [11:41] links? [11:41] Yeah. [11:41] you mean links created when you have mail or to-dos? [11:42] Yup [11:42] i'll check it out... === mjunx [n=matt@c-24-13-41-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:42] did click on a specific category of links (for example mail), or it segfaults no matter what link you click on? [11:43] email [11:44] I think it's done it for akregator stuff, too. [11:48] i think i'll do some tests [11:48] if it can be reproduced, a bug report should be filled in LP [11:50] file it with upstream instead.. or first anyway. [11:51] most bugs that are not packaging related should be filed upstream. [11:51] an LP-bug with links to the upstream BTS doesn't hurt though. === vprints [n=laur@213-35-242-62-dsl.end.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu-devel