[12:13] <jhutchins> ok, you need to pass credentials then.
[12:13] <jhutchins> I gotta go.
[12:13] <karmax> david_, well im installing the package kwin-baghira... it seems good. thanks
[12:13] <wolferine> k
[12:13] <wolferine> later, thanks
[12:13] <david_> karmax: no worries
[12:16] <wolferine> david_, another try?
[12:18] <eilker> i need to edit an image it is test.ico  . krita cant open it , any idea ?
[12:19] <jhutchins> kiconedit
[12:19] <eilker> thanx
[12:19] <shr3ya5> Yorokobi: No luck
[12:20] <shr3ya5> anyone got kubuntu 7.04 working on a core 2 duo with fakeraid controller?
[12:24] <cox377> Yorokobi: haha got it installed, how do i start the begga?
[12:26] <Yorokobi> cox377, use the client to connect to yourself (localhost) to test it. You can check to see if its running by using 'sudo /usr/NX/bin/nxserver --status'
[12:27] <cox377> Yorokobi: server is stopped
[12:27] <cox377> i ran nxserver under console but it doesnt load anything
[12:27] <cox377> also tried nxnode and nxclient
[12:29] <Yorokobi> cox377, check the nomachine website docs. It can be squirrelly sometimes. Did the nxserver --status give you a line starting with NX> 900 ... ?
[12:30] <cox377> NX> 900 ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection refused
[12:30] <cox377> NX> 110 NX Server is stopped.
[12:30] <cox377> NX> 999 Bye.
[12:30] <yuriy> hmm is there a save current session somewhere in kde?
[12:30] <Yorokobi> cox377, do you have an ssh server installed?
[12:31] <cox377> Yorokobi: lol not sure
[12:31] <Yorokobi> cox377, 'sudo apt-get install openssh-server'
[12:31] <cox377> Yorokobi: i'm a nightmare
[12:32] <cox377> Yorokobi: already installed
[12:32] <Yorokobi> cox377, is it started? 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart'
[12:33] <cox377> Yorokobi: nx server is now running : )
[12:35] <Yorokobi> cox377, the gui client and wizard can be found in Kmenu -> Lost & Found (typically)
[12:35] <Yorokobi> cox377, congratulations
[12:35] <cox377> Yorokobi: i was wondering where the hell they had gone
[12:37] <cox377> Yorokobi: ledgend mate
[12:37] <cox377> it works
[12:37] <Yorokobi> cox377, and its as secure as ssh :)
[12:38] <cox377> runs on port 22 yeh?
[12:41] <mrdlouisd> how would i emulate a windows application
[12:41] <wolferine> need a hand with mount still
[12:41] <cox377> mrdlouisd: use wine
[12:41] <wolferine> mrdlouisd, using wine
[12:42] <wolferine> http://www.debuntu.org/2006/05/31/58-how-to-smbfs-smbmnt-must-be-installed-suid-root
[12:42] <wolferine> i even tried this
[12:42] <wolferine> but no success
[12:43] <wolferine> oh great
[12:43] <jarn> Some pages don't display right in Firefox. Most do, but some don't. Here is an example: http://eurus103.googlepages.com/image.jpg
[12:46] <nonuda> guys, i need to download a file from this http://dri.freedesktop.org/snapshots/ , the file start with common and mach64, but i don't know which one? my kernel is 2.6.17.10
[12:47] <nonuda> i meant the file name start with common and mach64
[12:47] <adrian99> umm out of curiosity how would I find out if my servers time got put out of synce from cli and how would I fix it from cli?
[12:48] <inanimate> Every time I run Adept, it says "A new version of Kubuntu is available. Click next to upgrade," but "next" is grayed out. How can I upgrade?
[12:49] <adrian99> my forum is going wonky and giving me the flood control message despite no posts have been made so I figure the time must be out of sync
[12:51] <natham> hi, im trying to rip a cd using kaudiocreator but i got "malformed URL" erro, how can i fix this (it was working before)
[12:52] <dani_> Sysinfo for 'dani-desktop': Linux 2.6.20-13-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Core2CPU6300@1.86GHz at 2344 MHz (4690 bogomips), , RAM: 998/1010MB, 127 proc's, 4.12h up
[12:58] <manny> buenas!
[12:58] <manny> no entiendo de este despiche pero
[12:58] <curtis> does anyone use kbfx.  I'm running Edgy and can't get it to change themes or the start button
[01:01] <KrAmMeR> how can I see what device my sound card is mounted to?
[01:01] <KrAmMeR> I know which sound card its using...but on what device path
[01:02] <KrAmMeR> ../dev/
[01:02] <KrAmMeR> ?
[01:02] <yaccin> when i try to install the NVidia drivers, it says that i dont have ld installed, and that i should install it (by installing binutils) but binutils is already installed :(
[01:03] <yaccin> (feisty)
[01:03] <abortd> yaccin are you using envy?
[01:03] <yaccin> no
[01:03] <yaccin> im not
[01:03] <abortd> !envy
[01:03] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[01:03] <yaccin> it worked before the latest kernelupdate
[01:03] <abortd> use that
[01:03] <yaccin> no
[01:03] <yaccin> i dont use envy
[01:04] <abortd> have fun with your problem then if you want to do it the hard way
[01:04] <KrAmMeR> does anyone know how to find the path of the sound card?
[01:04] <KrAmMeR> im trying to add it to vmware to get sound through that
[01:05] <manny> alguien sabe como obtener aceleracion grafica?
[01:05] <manny> porq yo no
[01:05] <yaccin> abortd: envy is evil
[01:05] <manny> y estoy mamando
[01:05] <yaccin> and this has do be a larger problem
[01:05] <abortd> why is that?
[01:06] <abortd> envy works great for me
[01:06] <yaccin> because typing ld in konsole also says that the ld command could not be found
[01:06] <yaccin> but binutils is installed
[01:06] <abortd> !ld
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ld - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <yaccin> i dont know what a silly script could do then
[01:06] <abortd> !binutils
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binutils - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <abortd> try it and see if it works
[01:06] <abortd> u can always uninstall it
[01:07] <yaccin> it can not work
[01:07] <yaccin> because it does the same thing i was doing
[01:07] <manny> does anybody knows how to get video acceleration
[01:07] <abortd> how do you know if you dont try it?
[01:07] <yaccin> and it doesnt work ^^
[01:07] <yaccin> because what else could it do?
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> !nvidia
[01:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:07] <manny> yes
[01:08] <abortd> Linux_Galore, that wont help yaccin the all knowing
[01:08] <manny> thanks
[01:08] <abortd> oh nm
[01:08] <yaccin> abortd: im not all knowing
[01:08] <yaccin> i just know that envy could not get it working
[01:08] <yaccin> :)
[01:09] <yaccin> envy would also need ld to install the drivers
[01:09] <abortd> dude thats like saying "i can never learn how to drive" and never tried to drive
[01:09] <vito> para conectarme con un servidor ftp tenmgop que configurar los puertos de mi router?!
[01:09] <yaccin> and since my system says, that the command ld could not be found...
[01:09] <abortd> have you ever thought that it might get it working inorder to instal
[01:09] <yaccin> abortd: no thats a difference
[01:09] <abortd> sure sure
[01:09] <yaccin> what could the script do i cant?
[01:09] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: ld is the linux linker
[01:10] <yaccin> you dont get my point
[01:10] <yaccin> -_-
[01:10] <Levo_75> Greetings all!
[01:10] <abortd> i do get your point you dont get mine
[01:10] <yaccin> RaNDyMyZe: yes and its in the package binutils
[01:10] <RaNDyMyZe> actually its the GNU linker
[01:10] <KrAmMeR> no one has set up sound with their vmware machine?
[01:10] <yaccin> which i have installed
[01:10] <abortd> maybe the script is built to fix things so it can work?
[01:10] <yaccin> but it keeps saying, that the command ld ycould not be found
[01:10] <yaccin> abortd: no its not
[01:10] <HaSH> !iso
[01:10] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:10] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: when you upgraded feisty did you do an update, upgrade, dist-upgrade to make sure you pulled everything in?
[01:10] <abortd> i hope your computer exploads
[01:11] <yaccin> RaNDyMyZe: it was running fine until latest kernelupdate
[01:11] <abortd> downgrade the kernel?
[01:11] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: i understand.  did you install nvidia using apt-get or a download from nvidia?
[01:11] <yaccin> then i had to reinstall my drivers (which is normal after an kernelupdate) and it says that the command ld could not been fount
[01:12] <yaccin> installing nvidia-glx with apt does not work
[01:12] <abortd> THEN GET ENVY
[01:12] <yaccin> because when i try to install nvidia-glx it installs nvidia-glx-legacy instead :(
[01:12] <yaccin> abortd: envy doesnt work with this problem! belive me!
[01:12] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: what model of nvidia card do you have?
[01:12] <abortd> i hope you explode
[01:12] <Levo_75> Do i have to install gfx drivers if i want to play steam in wine?
[01:13] <yaccin> ermm
[01:13] <yaccin> 6600 or 6800
[01:13] <yaccin> one moment
[01:13] <abortd> you dont even know?!
[01:13] <yaccin> abortd: well hope that, just leave me alone with that silly script
[01:13] <abortd> hah
[01:13] <yaccin> no its a new one and i cant remember
[01:13] <abortd> its silly yet i couldnt get nvidia drivers to work before i used it
[01:14] <yaccin> yes on your pc
[01:14] <cox377> does anyone here user nomachine?
[01:14] <yaccin> are you running feisty?
[01:14] <yaccin> with the same hardware i do?
[01:14] <yaccin> ii dont think so
[01:14] <yaccin> Rauhm i cand find it now :/ but i know its supported by the normal drivers and not by the legacy drivers
[01:14] <yaccin> RaNDyMyZe:
[01:15] <abortd> is yours a fx?
[01:15] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: yes?
[01:15] <yaccin> an the latest driver from nvidia.com DID work until the latest dist-upgrade a few minutes ago
[01:16] <yaccin> i think the whole problem is a bug in the binutils package
[01:16] <abortd> i think u are bugged
[01:16] <abortd> you're like a retard in a rain storm
[01:16] <yaccin> abortd: yes, i figured you dont like me, now could you please stop this?
[01:16] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: i don't think so.  i have a 6800 installed at home and it's working okay.
[01:16] <abortd> wont try something that could possibly help
[01:16] <yaccin> RaNDyMyZe: on feisty?
[01:17] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: yes
[01:17] <yaccin> hmm
[01:17] <abortd> i dont because you sit there and ask questions then tell people they are full of it
[01:17] <yaccin> when did you last upgrade it?
[01:17] <abortd> i would try all possibilities
[01:17] <PhinnFort> abortd: stfu, mkay?
[01:17] <yaccin> PhinnFort: thx ^^
[01:17] <abortd> what you would like to blow me?
[01:17] <abortd> !language
[01:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:17] <yaccin> [01:17]  <abortd> you're like a retard in a rain storm
[01:17] <yaccin> ...
[01:18] <PhinnFort> (schizo)
[01:18] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:18] <abortd> i figured you were
[01:18] <yaccin> yaccin@Hephaistos:~$ ld
[01:18] <yaccin> The program 'ld' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[01:18] <yaccin> sudo apt-get install binutils
[01:18] <yaccin> bash: ld: command not found
[01:18] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: i haven't upgraded today so there could be a problem, so I don't know for sure
[01:18] <yaccin> hmm
[01:18] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: if you've done an update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, autoclean
[01:19] <yaccin> ive done all of it
[01:19] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: then try apt-get intall -f and see if you find broken packages
[01:19] <yaccin> every package is newest, nothing to autoclean
[01:19] <yaccin> nope does nothing
[01:19] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: what does apt-get install --reinstall binutils do?
[01:19] <vito> %c4 para conectarme con un servidor ftp tenmgop que configurar los puertos de mi router?!
[01:19] <vito>  para conectarme con un servidor ftp tenmgop que configurar los puertos de mi router?!
[01:20] <PhinnFort> !es | vito
[01:20] <ubotu> vito: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:20] <yaccin> already did a dpkg-reconfigure binutils, but i will try that
[01:20] <yaccin> ah
[01:20] <yaccin> thx
[01:20] <yaccin> that worked :)
[01:20] <yaccin> brb, installing drivers now :D
[01:20] <RaNDyMyZe> yaccin: yw
[01:21] <abortd> and i bet envy would have worked
[01:24] <yaccin> yay
[01:24] <yaccin> beryl works again :)
[01:24] <RaNDyMyZe> cool
[01:24] <PhinnFort> yaccin: gratz;)
[01:25] <eilker> how to leave an automatic message when i leave the irc,  i dont wanna type it when i every leave  as "/quit msg"
[01:25] <eilker> konversation here
[01:25] <PhinnFort> eilker: ask Sho_ in #kde, if he's there
[01:25] <PhinnFort> he's a konversation developer
[01:25] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:25] <PhinnFort> (don't tell him I said it;)
[01:25] <clemyeats_> eilker: in the identity properties
[01:27] <eilker> PhinnFort: i am not going :) clemyeats_ may help
[01:27] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:27] <eilker> clemyeats_: is it in tools/settings
[01:27] <yaccin> o.O
[01:27] <yaccin> next problem
[01:28] <PhinnFort> bring it on!;)
[01:28] <yaccin>  /dev/hda1 is gone o.O
[01:28] <PhinnFort> yaccin: sata disks?
[01:28] <yaccin> no ide
[01:28] <yaccin> fstab entry is still the same as it worked
[01:29] <yaccin> maybe its because: W: mdadm: unchecked configuration file: /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf ?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> yaccin: if you have sata, afaik, you get /dev/sda*
[01:29] <yaccin> no its not sata :)
[01:29] <yaccin> and im sure and it worked before the update
[01:29] <yaccin> ^^
[01:29] <dwidmann> yaccin: did it mystereously become hdb?
[01:30] <yaccin> hmm
[01:30] <yaccin> would be very strange
[01:30] <dwidmann> I've had oddities like this happen before
[01:30] <yaccin> ill try it ^^
[01:30] <yaccin> hdb1 also doesnt exist o.O
[01:31] <dwidmann> I plugged in a 3rd drive ... all of the sudden I sda became sdc, and the new drive was sda, 'twas very weird
[01:31] <yaccin> well i didnt plug anything in or out ^^
[01:34] <abortd> envy would have worked
[01:34] <abortd> btw
[01:35] <yaccin> i dont think so :P
[01:35] <PhinnFort> !repeat
[01:35] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:35] <abortd> actually it would have
[01:35] <PhinnFort> abortd: he can try it next time
[01:36] <abortd> i dont care what pisses my briches is that he asked a question i gave the answer and he then pretty much called me a liar
[01:36] <kevin_cornell> hey can someone help me,, im sure it will be really fast, pm me
[01:36] <PhinnFort> kevin_cornell: take it here, ok?
[01:36] <kevin_cornell> sure
[01:37] <kevin_cornell> give me a sec to type it up
[01:37] <yaccin> i didnt call you a liar
[01:37] <abortd> yes you did
[01:37] <yaccin> i am just sure that the problem could not have ben solved by that script!
[01:37] <PhinnFort> abortd: stf
[01:37] <PhinnFort> we'll never know
[01:37] <abortd> !language
[01:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <PhinnFort> happy happy happy pink :D
[01:38] <PhinnFort> !attitude
[01:38] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:38] <wolferine> HELP!
[01:38] <PhinnFort> wolferine: ok
[01:38] <wolferine> this mount is causing a headache
[01:38] <abortd> and i volunteered so dont give me your attitude
[01:39] <kevin_cornell> I followed the instructions in the heading "Good bye fglrx, welcome open source :)" from the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver it worked fine but when I rebooted it couldnt find driver or something. I'm guessing i need to change some configuration file. not sure which one or how
[01:39] <PhinnFort> wolferine: explain
[01:39] <PhinnFort> kevin_cornell: where did the message come?
[01:39] <wolferine> are you experienced?
[01:39] <PhinnFort> wolferine: with what?
[01:39] <wolferine> samba
[01:40] <abortd> is radeon ati kevin_cornell ?
[01:40] <kevin_cornell> PhinnFort: when it tried to launch X i think
[01:40] <PhinnFort> wolferine: a bit
[01:40] <wolferine> k, nm then
[01:40] <kevin_cornell> abortd: yes
[01:40] <PhinnFort> kevin_cornell: can you manage to paste your xorg.conf
[01:40] <wolferine> its an involved problem
[01:40] <abortd> try envy
[01:40] <yaccin> ...
[01:40] <PhinnFort> wolferine: i've set up a few filesharing servers
[01:40] <abortd> it reinstalls drivers
[01:40] <PhinnFort> abortd: isn't that for nvidia
[01:40] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:40] <abortd> use the uninstall fuctions first
[01:40] <PhinnFort> !envy
[01:40] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[01:40] <abortd> no its ati too
[01:41] <PhinnFort> ok
[01:41] <abortd> why doubt me?
[01:41] <PhinnFort> gtk...
[01:41] <abortd> i am god
[01:41] <kevin_cornell> PhinnFort: i'm on my XP partition now... where is xorg.conf and do i just need to paste some code that i just pasted into terminal when i got it working?
[01:41] <abortd> kevin_cornell, use envy the same thing happened to me
[01:42] <abortd> kevin_cornell, is xorg.conf not loading?
[01:42] <kevin_cornell> abortd: what's envy
[01:42] <PhinnFort> abortd: i don't think he's able to use it, he can't get into X
[01:42] <abortd> oh
[01:42] <yaccin> kevin_cornell: use envy, if it doesnt work, sue abortd :P
[01:42] <PhinnFort> kevin_cornell: do you have the live cd?
[01:42] <wolferine> what are these set by default in *buntu? chmod u+s `which smbumount` and  chmod u+s `which smbmnt`
[01:42] <kevin_cornell> yes i just need to put the right line of code into the conf to tell it to use the new driver
[01:42] <abortd> kevin_cornell, load the live cd and mount your linux partition
[01:42] <SoB> does anyone know what permissions in udev allow a user to umount (via right-click -> safely remove) a usb flash drive?
[01:42] <abortd> and replace the old one with the one from the live cd
[01:42] <PhinnFort> wolferine: sticky the samba mount execs?
[01:42] <kevin_cornell> cant  i just edit the conf with nano.. i can get into terminal it just doesnt launch x
[01:42] <abortd> or download one
[01:43] <abortd> and try to get in it from xp
[01:43] <wolferine> PhinnFort, what is that?
[01:43] <abortd> i dont dual boot
[01:43] <PhinnFort> SoB: it's not in udev, afaik
[01:43] <abortd> i would replace all of xorg
[01:43] <SoB> the mount isn't handled by udev?
[01:43] <PhinnFort> wolferine: chmod u+s means your user can suid when running those programs, afaik
[01:43] <abortd> that way it resets your display options
[01:43] <PhinnFort> *owning user
[01:43] <PhinnFort> SoB: udev handles device nodes
[01:43] <wolferine> ok, and whats the default in *buntu?
[01:43] <PhinnFort> !udev
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about udev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:43] <PhinnFort> wolferine: default what?
[01:44] <kevin_cornell> which line of code should i add/remove to xorg so it uses the right driver? re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[01:44] <abortd> same thing happened to me with my nvidia driver kevin_cornell
[01:44] <wolferine> i changed it to u+s
[01:44] <SoB> PhinnFort: must be kernel automount after the node is created then?
[01:44] <abortd> dude replace xorg.conf
[01:44] <wolferine> and I dont know what it was before...
[01:44] <abortd> then download envy
[01:44] <PhinnFort> kevin_cornell: if you load the livecd, we can talk from there
[01:44] <abortd> kevin pm
[01:44] <PhinnFort> abortd: he just wants to use the open source, default drivers
[01:44] <yaccin> abortd: i think he wants to use the opensource drivers for ati
[01:45] <jarn> Is there anyway to manage RAM usage? Like make specific programs use swap, etc.?
[01:45] <abortd> well im telling him how to get x to work so he can get into linux and actually do it
[01:45] <PhinnFort> abortd: why use envy?
[01:45] <deathslayer> hey whats the best thing to do once u install kubuntu or any linux os??
[01:45] <abortd> f envy then i didnt know he wanted to do it
[01:46] <PhinnFort> deathslayer: use it
[01:46] <deathslayer> lol besides that
[01:46] <PhinnFort> deathslayer: what do you mean, then?;)
[01:46] <wolferine> PhinnFort, i just changed it to u+s, but i dont know what they were previously...
[01:46] <deathslayer> like whats the best thing to do first to secure your os?
[01:46] <yaccin> you dont need to
[01:46] <yaccin> it already is
[01:46] <yaccin> ^^
[01:46] <wolferine> deathslayer, get a router
[01:46] <PhinnFort> wolferine: don't know from here
[01:46] <deathslayer> ohh
[01:46] <deathslayer> lol but like updating?
[01:47] <yaccin> sure
[01:47] <PhinnFort> wolferine: you could just reinstall
[01:47] <yaccin> you can do that :)
[01:47] <wolferine> PhinnFort, how do I do that, remove samba entirely?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> wolferine: aptitude purge
[01:47] <Levo_75> So i'm trying to install wine
[01:47] <PhinnFort> sudo
[01:47] <svivian> I need some help with Kubuntu 7. I just finished updating, and I am trying to config my monitors, but even in admin mode, the "apply" button is grayed out. Any ideas?
[01:47] <Levo_75> I tried a terminal sudo apt-get wine
[01:47] <deathslayer> i am updating using adpet like managing respoitores and updating the ones for dapper but anything else i can do for it to run better
[01:47] <Levo_75> I have kubunto dd
[01:47] <wolferine> purge doesnt do anything really?
[01:48] <PhinnFort> svivian: did you change anything
[01:48] <wolferine> s/?//
[01:48] <Levo_75> Where's the repository for wine?
[01:48] <PhinnFort> wolferine: purge purges everything in the package
[01:48] <PhinnFort> config files, etc.
[01:48] <Yorokobi> !info wine | Levo_75,
[01:48] <ubotu> levo_75,: wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[01:48] <wolferine> so sudo aptiture purge samba you mean?
[01:48] <PhinnFort> something like that
[01:48] <Levo_75> I have that allready yorokobi
[01:48] <Levo_75> Thnx
[01:49] <PhinnFort> deathslayer: use bastille
[01:49] <PhinnFort> !bastille
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bastille - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <deathslayer> whast that?
[01:49] <PhinnFort> !info bastille | deathslayer
[01:49] <ubotu> deathslayer: bastille: Security hardening tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-12 (edgy), package size 358 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[01:49] <svivian> PhinnFort: Yes, I have tried to change several settings, but none of the buttons have become active.
[01:49] <wolferine> not sure I feel comfortable about doing this
[01:49] <PhinnFort> deathslayer: it might be overkill, though;)
[01:49] <Yorokobi> !info psad | deathslayer
[01:49] <ubotu> deathslayer: psad: The Port Scan Attack Detector. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.6-1 (edgy), package size 244 kB, installed size 1924 kB
[01:49] <deathslayer> so what does it secure my files>?
[01:49] <wolferine> how easy is it to setup nfs? (compared to samba)
[01:49] <deathslayer> oh ic
[01:49] <PhinnFort> deathslayer: it locks down configs in your system and stuff
[01:50] <deathslayer> thats something i should get
[01:50] <PhinnFort> deathslayer: be aware though, it might make stuff a little less userfriendly
[01:50] <deathslayer> can i update kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 withour downloading and reinstalling the os just well...updating it?
[01:50] <PhinnFort> deathslayer: yeah, see in topic
[01:51] <sampan> levo_75  if you 'have' that, then what's your question/problem?  (as long as you have enabled the universe repos, then installing wine is as easy as: "sudo aptitude install wine")
[01:51] <PhinnFort> !edgy
[01:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[01:51] <PhinnFort> !edgy | deathslayer
[01:51] <ubotu> deathslayer: please see above
[01:51] <wolferine> anyone ? how easy is it to setup nfs? (compared to samba)
[01:51] <PhinnFort> wolferine: I have no experience with it
[01:51] <deathslayer> no not ubuntu kubuntu 6.10 or is there a 6.10?
[01:52] <deathslayer> i like kubuntu for its networking
[01:52] <svivian> PhinnFort: Yes, I have tried to change several settings, but none of the buttons have become active.
[01:52] <Yorokobi> deathslayer: ubuntu & kubuntu are the same thing
[01:52] <wolferine> PhinnFort, what does purge do exactly?
[01:52] <PhinnFort> wolferine: it removes the package and it's configuration files
[01:52] <PhinnFort> normally, the config files stay, afaik
[01:52] <wolferine> then to reinstall?
[01:52] <Yorokobi> deathslayer: the only difference is Gnome (ubuntu) or KDE (kubuntu)
[01:52] <deathslayer> yeah
[01:52] <PhinnFort> wolferine: sudo aptitute install samba
[01:53] <deathslayer> its kinda of organeish
[01:53] <deathslayer> i want xbuntu
[01:53] <deathslayer> but the download takes kinda long
[01:53] <wolferine> guess I should do it on both machines?
[01:53] <posingaspopular> deathslayer: xubuntu?
[01:53] <deathslayer> yeah
[01:53] <posingaspopular> yea i know, it took me 30 mins. to download the .iso file
[01:54] <deathslayer> they where going to have it shipped for free but no funds so..plus i dont have a dvd reader
[01:54] <deathslayer> so i tryed downloading..and every time i did and burned to iso it did not boot up
[01:54] <svivian> PhinnFort: Any ideas?
[01:54] <posingaspopular> deathslayer: which version?
[01:54] <deathslayer> 6.06
[01:55] <PhinnFort> svivian: i don't know what your problem is
[01:55] <posingaspopular> xubuntu 7.04 installed fine for me
[01:55] <posingaspopular> try that
[01:55] <Yorokobi> I requested CDs for 6.06 shortly after it was released and received them right after 6.10 was released
[01:55] <deathslayer> edgy or something like that
[01:55] <posingaspopular> yea thats edgy
[01:55] <niroxx> is there any command that prints out infos about my rams?
[01:55] <Jucato> niroxx: free -m
[01:55] <wolferine> ok ok I give up
[01:55] <wolferine> not gonna happen today
[01:56] <Yorokobi> niroxx: info like the brand and CAS latency or info like how much is used/available?
[01:56] <niroxx> Jucato: hm i want to get informations about the cas latency
[01:56] <niroxx> Yorokobi: about the cas latency :)
[01:56] <wolferine> thanks anyways PhinnFort
[01:57] <Yorokobi> niroxx: kinfocenter
[01:57] <PhinnFort> wolferine: yw, i'm getting a bit tired...:)
[01:57] <niroxx> (CL2.5, CL3) ...
[01:57] <wolferine> np, me too
[01:57] <wolferine> been doing this all afternoon
[01:57] <deathslayer> wow updating and instal;ing all the packages threw adept takes along time im only at 40% over all 200packages for dapper
[01:58] <niroxx> Yorokobi: i have not installed kde yet, i need a command to get the informations. my private fileserver has no x server
[01:59] <kevin_cornell> PhinnFort: I am on live CD now
[02:00] <deathslayer> ughh...i hate booting of the live cd sometime is cuts out then when u move the mouse its gotta spin the cd again
[02:00] <kevin_cornell> abortd: you there?
[02:02] <Yorokobi> niroxx: I don't know if there is such a command for that information. You can always reboot it and look at the CMOS settings :)
[02:04] <niroxx> Yorokobi: *gg* i looked into the proc folder aaaand :) there was a file named (meminfo) -> cat /proc/meminfo ... thanks !
[02:04] <kevin_cornell> I followed the directions in section "Good bye fglrx, welcome open source :)" on page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver it worked fine... but when i rebooted i guess it didn't know to use the new driver and it couldnt launch X, anyone have any ideas?
[02:05] <Yorokobi> niroxx: yeah, I'm aware of /proc/meminfo. I didn't suggest it as mine does not list the CAS latency
[02:05] <niroxx> oh damn, i should learn to read :(
[02:11] <smart_> Hwy kernel 2.6.20.14 wont loading
[02:17] <DrX> can anyone help me with an ext3 volume mount error:  "Unable to mount the volume" dmesg | tail > "VFS:  Can't find ext3 file system on dev sda6"
[02:19] <BluesKaj> I just reinstalled samba and I know there's a command to fix this error , cuz I used to have it stored in a textfile before the previous kernel was damaged : smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)...anyone know the fix ?
[02:21] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj: its not recommended but 'sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmount'
[02:22] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi: it's just for our little home network share ... the pc's are behind a router ...thx :)
[02:24] <natham> hi, i have a really weird problem, i cant log on using my normal user, when i do, the screen turns black and return to the login screen, what can i do?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> we have an appropriate FW and antivirus on the windows pc plus the router FW and port monitoring
[02:26] <sayers> Yorokobi: Nah, it can be secure aslong as your smart about it
[02:27] <BluesKaj> wife is careful , and knows what not to do :)
[02:28] <Yorokobi> A router does not security make.
[02:28] <Yorokobi> A router only
[02:28] <BluesKaj> siemens speedstream 6300 with FW enabled...one of the more secure ones around
[02:29] <natham> hi, i have a really weird problem, i cant log on using my normal user, when i do, the screen turns black and return to the login screen, what can i do?
[02:29] <james__> is there a good downloader program for kubuntu???
[02:33] <ubuntu> hello, hello
[02:34] <chemicalvamp> <--- 6th re-install this week lol
[02:34] <curtis> james__ : what's wrong with adept?
[02:34] <chemicalvamp> curtis use apt-get instead
[02:35] <curtis> chemicalvamp : was referring to james__ comment on a good download program :)
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> curtis, oh i missed it :)
[02:35] <curtis> chemicalvamp : no worries ;)
[02:35] <chemicalvamp> i thought there was actually something wrong with your adept lol
[02:35] <james__> downloader for video with autorization on https
[02:36] <curtis> james__  : a little confused.  can you give a little more detail on what you want to accomplish?
[02:37] <curtis> man, I tell ya.  Updating kubuntu is MUCH easier than Windows.  These patches take forever LOL
[02:37] <james__> multi downloader preferred,, to download videos
[02:37] <curtis> james__  : maybe a torrent program?  ktorrent or the like ?
[02:38] <curtis> james__ : not sure where the videos are you are trying to get I guess.  Maybe you can't tell us ;)
[02:38] <james__> like Free Download Manager  in Windows
[02:39] <curtis> james__ :  hmmm.... maybe ProzGui?
[02:40] <curtis> james__ : there's also one called D4x or something like that
[02:40] <aaronk> I receive the following error on startup: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup... Not automatically fixing this" I would like to disable fsck so this error will go away, but I don't know how to access fstab. Help requested.
[02:41] <Yorokobi> Which package would provide the X libraries to build against?
[02:41] <jarn> Kopete stopped recognizing my password. When I booted up it told me to enter my password, so I did, but it tells me it's incorrect. I did it multiple times. It is NOT incorrect, I checked to make sure it was still correct.
[02:42] <curtis> jarn : is it Kopete that wants the password or is it the KDEWallet?
[02:42] <jarn> curtis: Kopete.
[02:42] <jarn> curtis: I'm fairly certain. I just entered my password again, hoping against the odds that it will connect. If it asks again, I'll tell you for sure.
[02:43] <curtis> jarn : I have to enter a password for mine too but it is for Wallet and not really Kopete
[02:44] <james__> curtis: thanks,, will try d4x in repos
[02:44] <curtis> james__ : no problem ;)
[02:45] <jarn> curtis: If I have to enter a wallet password, then something has changed because I never needed to before. Either way, something is wrong. ;)
[02:45] <jarn> curtis: Yeah, it's Kopete's password.
[02:46] <curtis> jarn : bummer.  I am wondering if just renaming the config file for Kopete and then restarting it will let it reset.  I had to do that for Beryl a couple of times as well as other programs.  Don't quote me on that though
[02:46] <curtis> Maybe one of the others here can answer that better
[02:47] <aaronk> I receive the following error on startup: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup... Not automatically fixing this" I would like to disable fsck so this error will go away, but I don't know how to access fstab. Help requested.
[02:52] <q_> .
[02:53] <aaronk> I killed #kubuntu
[02:53] <jarn> Yes.
[02:53] <jarn> You did.
[02:55] <BluesKaj> Yorokobi: actually the command that enbled mount is 'sudo chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmount'...found it in the forums :)
[02:55] <aaronk> The way I see it, if I can't get help. Nobody should get help.
[02:55] <SoB> for those of you that saw my issue earlier with Udev, it was udev
[02:56] <SoB> since most of my lab users aren't in the plugdev group they couldn't use USB flash drives
[02:56] <Yorokobi> BluesKaj: that command removes the setuid option, though
[02:56] <SoB> I just changed the 40-permissions.rules part of USB to GROUP="users" and everything is working properly
[02:58] <aaronk> How do gain access to an unbootable linux partition?
[02:59] <kristjan_> is it possible to download more recent Kubuntu 7.04 Beta iso?
[03:00] <kristjan_> (more recent iso than Kubuntu 7.04 Beta)
[03:08] <Zehava> Hello, I've recently installed a new theme for KDE, would anyone be able to advise me on how to impliment it.
[03:08] <chemicalvamp> Zehava is ther a differntsession for it?
[03:09] <chemicalvamp> Zehava.. log out -> end session and click the list on the left to view sessions.. see if its there
[03:10] <Zehava> chemicalvamp I'll check that in one moment, another fella on #ubuntu just told me to try kcontrol
[03:10] <Zehava> and use the theme manager from there
[03:11] <kristjan_> Zehava: did you install style source package?
[03:11] <kristjan_> *downloaded
[03:11] <Zehava> kristjan_ no, I downloaded domino from kde-look.org and have installed it thus far.  It's not showing in the theme manager
[03:12] <kristjan_> oh, go into "style"
[03:12] <kristjan_> appearance>style
[03:13] <Zehava> appearance>style alright one moment
[03:13] <Zehava> bingo, kristjan_ it's there, thanks alot!
[03:14] <Punker> hi
[03:15] <Zehava> domino style?
[03:15] <Punker> doggy?
[03:15] <steve_> he
[03:16] <Punker> I dont use kubuntu anymore
[03:16] <kristjan_> Zehava: didn't you just asked there can you apply domino widget style?
[03:16] <Zehava> kristjan_ yes I installed domino and in the style menu I clicked on it and clicked applly, but nothing has changed...
[03:17] <Punker> what is the deal with all the underscore's tonight?
[03:17] <Punker> I loved the one I forgot the guys name ________
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> whats the apt-get command for installing all updates && getiing dist updated?
[03:17] <Punker> it was real long LOL
[03:18] <kristjan_> Zehava: that's interesting, how did you install it? configure make make install?
[03:18] <Zehava> kristjan_ yes that's what I did...then again, I'm not sure exactly what's suppose to change, maybe it did, but my desktop looks the same and all the windows still, I don't see any changes as of yet
[03:19] <kristjan_> chemicalvamp: apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:20] <kristjan_> Zehava: then obviously something went wrong
[03:20] <Zehava> kristjan_ hmmm, not sure what.  I'm still looking around
[03:21] <chemicalvamp> still missing something i think.. "sudo apt-get install (missing upgrades) && dist-upgrade
[03:21] <jarn> Is there any way to manage RAM usage so I can, for instance, set some programs to use swap and others to RAM?
[03:21] <kristjan_> jarn: you could use other swappiness value
[03:22] <chemicalvamp> i just want to be able to browse adepts package list while its updating
[03:22] <Zehava> kristjan_ from what I can see in the example window when I set domino as the style, it isn't going to change many obvious things.  some buttons and progress bars but nothing I'd see on the desktop eh?
[03:24] <Zehava> kristjan_ Thanks for the help, I"m installing another one now and we'll see how it works out once it's done making.  I have to run to the store for my wife, gonna hang in room, will be back in a few
[03:25] <jarn> kristjan_: What is that?
[03:27] <kristjan_> jarn: it's not what you want actually, swappiness sets the swap usage (default is 60)
[03:31] <hossam> hello I have made an error in my /etc/sudoers file and now am no longer a sudoer
[03:31] <hossam> how can i log into root to repair the file
[03:32] <hossam> lol, this probably sounds ridiculous
[03:33] <Arwen> hossam, reboot, and at the grub prompt, choose "recovery mode" or "single user mode"
[03:33] <hossam> i installed onto a playstation 3
[03:33] <hossam> i am not sure how to access recovery mode
[03:34] <hossam> im supposed to hit escape at some point?
[03:34] <Arwen> hossam, uh, do you have a grub menu? if not, I guess you have to use a livecd
[03:34] <Yorokobi> hossam, yeah, during the grub boot
[03:34] <Yorokobi> hossam, you have 2-3 seconds typically
[03:34] <Arwen> hossam, why are you using a PS3 as a computer?
[03:35] <hossam> i am very new to linux, is the grub menu to the left of the login prompt, or is this prior to the gui loading?
[03:35] <hossam> i am just testing it out
[03:35] <hossam> sounded like a fun idea
[03:35] <Arwen> before the "Ubuntu" splash screen
[03:35] <hossam> everything was good until i screwed up this file
[03:35] <Yorokobi> hossam, its right at the beginning of the boot process
[03:35] <Arwen> it should be right after the BIOS
[03:35] <hossam> i will try
[03:35] <Arwen> but... PS3s probably work differently...
[03:35] <hossam> yea
[03:35] <hossam> so i reboot, i get a thing called kboot
[03:35] <hossam> it then loads up ubuntu
[03:35] <hossam> once the gui loads i should look for something?
[03:36] <hossam> or i should hit escape
[03:36] <hossam> =/
[03:36] <Yorokobi> hossam, before the gui loads. It sounds like kboot is the PS3's grub
[03:36] <hossam> yes
[03:37] <hossam> from there i can load livecds and whatnot
[03:37] <hossam> or wait 10 seconds for ubuntu to autoload
[03:37] <Yorokobi> hossam, that's the point you need to enter rescue/single user mode.
[03:38] <hossam>  *nods*
[03:38] <hossam> do i use a special command?
[03:39] <Yorokobi> hossam, if you can access the kernel command prior to boot then you'll need to append single to the end of it.
[03:39] <hossam> ok
[03:40] <SecretSquirrel> Kind of a basic question, but google has not been fortcoming:  How do I work around an "MD5Sum mismatch error" on linux-generic when trying to install from the 7.04Beta alternate CD?
[03:40] <__endo602> hello
[03:40] <__endo602> can someone help me with an inetd issue?
[03:40] <Arwen> SecretSquirrel, that means your CD is broken, download a new copy and burn again
[03:41] <Whopper> how do i make kubuntu load like in dapper?
[03:41] <hossam> if this is the command:
[03:41] <hossam> $ mnt/ubuntu/boot/vmlinux initrd=mnt/ubuntu/boot/initrd.img root=/dev/sda3
[03:41] <hossam> where do i add the single append
[03:41] <Whopper> well, i want it to be graphical, not just white text
[03:41] <Yorokobi> hossam, add 'single' to the end
[03:41] <Yorokobi> sans quotes
[03:41] <hossam> thank you very much, i will try that and come back here to let you know the results
[03:42] <Arwen> Whopper, what are you talking about? the bootup splash?
[03:42] <Whopper> yes
[03:42] <Yorokobi> Whopper, or the grub menu?
[03:42] <Whopper> well, the boot loader
[03:42] <hossam> yorokobi, actually one more thing, will i then be able to log into root what am i expecting to see
[03:42] <Arwen> Whopper, edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst, or, do you want your boot menu to be graphical?
[03:43] <Arwen> that's not possible afaik
[03:43] <Whopper> yes, not just black and white text
[03:43] <Arwen> would you prefer blue and red text?
[03:43] <Arwen> I'm lost
[03:43] <Yorokobi> hossam, you may have to remount / rw then visudo to correct the sudoers file
[03:43] <Whopper> well, a kubuntu logo on top, then a progress bar underneath, then the status
[03:44] <Arwen> Whopper, oh... that's not the grub menu.....
[03:44] <Arwen> edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, look for the automagic kernel options and add "splash"
[03:44] <endo602> can someone help me with inetd
[03:44] <hossam> yorokobi, thanks ill see what i can do
[03:44] <Arwen> Whopper, or, find the line "# defoptions=<stuff>
[03:44] <Whopper> ok
[03:45] <Arwen> Whopper, and replace <stuff> with "quiet splash"
[03:45] <Whopper> ah k
[03:45] <Whopper> and it will do that?
[03:45] <Whopper> load graphically?
[03:45] <Arwen> no, one sec - you need to do a settings sync, run the command "sudo update-grub"
[03:46] <Arwen> same, then you can see the problems
[03:46] <Whopper> \ok, i updated
[03:46] <sayers> is there a program that has information on my HDD storage?
[03:46] <Arwen> Whopper, reboot and try it :-)
[03:46] <sayers> that is built in please
[03:46] <Whopper> ok
[03:46] <Arwen> sayers, what kind of information?
[03:46] <Whopper> screen on, messages logged
[03:46] <Yorokobi> sayers, df -h
[03:46] <sayers> basic
[03:46] <Arwen> try "hdparm" and "df"
[03:48] <sayers> cool I have pretty much all I need installed and stuff, just need to add my music tomarrow or whatever and I have only used 6%
[03:49] <sayers> I like kubuntu :)
[03:51] <Whopper> hmm
[03:51] <Whopper> it didn't work :(
[03:52] <flyte__> I just installed KDE-Desktop on my ubuntu server (edgy) 6.10 via sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop - it seemed to install it fine, but how to I launch KDE? When I reset, it goes directly to the console. I looked in /etc/init.d for inittab but I can't find it. When I bring up the grub menu during bootup, no KDE option. Any ideas?
[03:55] <hossam> alright!!! it worked, thanks a lot
[03:55] <hossam> this is fun, lol
[03:56] <kmccain> weather
[03:58] <emilio> hi
[03:58] <utnubuk> what is the windows alt-tab equivilent for kubuntu?
[03:58] <levi__> how can i make it so that my nvidia drivers transfer over from old kernel to the new  one
[03:58] <Arwen> utnubuk, uh... alt+tab
[03:58] <levi__> >??
[03:58] <utnubuk> Arwen: hmm it doesnt seem to work for me
[03:59] <Arwen> utnubuk, huh, well, it works here :-)
[03:59] <Arwen> maybe kwin is different from metacity like that though
[03:59] <kmccain> Alt + Tab cycles throught the runing programs and it works here too.
[04:00] <utnubuk> funny - alt tab with konversation seems to bring up the name of the last person i talked to... oh well its not that big a deal i guess
[04:02] <flyte__> any ideas?
[04:08] <levi__> can someone help me with an inetd problem
[04:09] <Yorokobi> flyte__, do you have /etc/init.d/kdm or /etc/init.d/gdm ?
[04:09] <HymnToLife> levi__, if you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you :)
[04:09] <levi__> :)
[04:09] <levi__> well its confusing
[04:09] <levi__> i dont even know the specific problem
[04:10] <levi__> just that when i try to login to my machine via putty
[04:10] <levi__> then i use pftp to get onto my ftp-server
[04:10] <flyte__> Yorokobi, one second
[04:10] <levi__> i get a network connection error
[04:10] <levi__> drops my connection
[04:10] <levi__> under the same note
[04:10] <levi__> if i try to send files to my ftpserver from within my network it hangs
[04:11] <flyte__> yonkeltron, I have neither
[04:11] <flyte__> Yorokobi, I have neither.
[04:11] <Yorokobi> flyte__, 'sudo apt-get install kdm'
[04:11] <ice> hi, can anyone tell me how to add a startup script?
[04:12] <flyte__> Yorokobi, I just ran sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop again, and its now downloading a bunch more stuff.. .maybe the 1st time it didn't work?
[04:12] <intelikey> ice you can call it from /etc/rc.local
[04:12] <ice> ?
[04:12] <Yorokobi> flyte__, possibly.
[04:12] <flyte__> Yorokobi, is there a reason why it wouldn't work the 1st time?
[04:12] <chemicalvamp> ice what kinda script is it?
[04:13] <Yorokobi> flyte__, *shrug* you'd have to look at the apt output
[04:13] <ice> starts up firehol
[04:13] <flyte__> Yorokobi, odd.. I did look at the output and nothing jumped out at me as an error.
[04:13] <levi__> any clues
[04:14] <Yorokobi> ice, if you install firehol from the repos it should create /etc/init.d/firehol startup/shutdown script
[04:14] <flyte__> Yorokobi, but oh well.. I'm getting super slow speeds so apt is saying its gonna take a long time ;/
[04:14] <ice> yeah, but i cannot use it, somehow the firewall gfails with 26 errors
[04:15] <levi__> can someone help me with updating nvidia drivers on new kernel?
[04:16] <Yorokobi> ice, to point out the obvious (I'm good at that) you'll have to fix whatever is causing firehol to fail to start. I'd start with /etc/firehol/firehol.conf. Maybe RTFM
[04:16] <Mena> !kde-devel
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-devel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <Mena> I  Have a problem with loading kernel 2.6.20.14 and i tried recovery mode (freeze)....Help Plz
[04:17] <Arwen> Mena, downgrade to 2.6.20-14 then?
[04:17] <Arwen> 2.6.20-13*
[04:17] <ice> I treid, it messed up my entire ip table configuration, everything. i can show the errors if you want, I mean i check the entire ciode but i didn't see anything wrong
[04:17] <Mena> HOw
[04:17] <Mena> How?
[04:17] <Arwen> Mena, uh... sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.20-13-generic
[04:18] <Mena> Arwen. ok
[04:18] <Mena> Arwen. Hey if i need to compile something i need kde-devel ...right ?
[04:18] <intelikey> no you need build-essential
[04:18] <Yorokobi> Mena, build-essential is where I'd start
[04:18] <Arwen> Mena, you need build-essential and the headers for the program you're building
[04:19] <levi__> can someone help me with nvidia drivers on new kernel
[04:19] <Mena> ohhh my godness so all this instaaled with kde-devel will take just much space ...do i remove them then intsall build-essential and the headers
[04:20] <intelikey> levi__ i failed installation of the binary driver so i wont dare attempt helping someone else mess theirs up...  but have a look on the wiki   !nv
[04:20] <intelikey> !ati | levi__
[04:20] <ubotu> levi__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:22] <surgy> how can i encrypt a file? where you have to enter a password other than the sudo password to gain read/write privs on the file?
[04:22] <Yorokobi> !pgp | surgy
[04:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pgp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:22] <Yorokobi> !gpg
[04:22] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[04:22] <Yorokobi> !gpg | surgy
[04:22] <ubotu> surgy: please see above
[04:23] <surgy> thnx
[04:26] <ps3userftw> could someone help me in pm with installing an emulator please ?
[04:26] <ps3userftw> and vlc
[04:26] <intelikey> vlc is in the repos.
[04:27] <ps3userftw> oh
[04:27] <sony> anyone know how to install a php on the style
[04:27] <intelikey> your emulator may be also.   which one?
[04:27] <sony> where do i put this file
[04:27] <sony> i want it to look like this
[04:27] <sony> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Domino+Aqua+Glass+Theme?content=55733
[04:27] <HAL9000> limewire on kubuntu?
[04:28] <intelikey> !frostwire
[04:28] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:28] <sony> how do you install a theme on kubuntu
[04:28] <HAL9000> ty
[04:28] <intelikey> !theme
[04:28] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:28] <ps3userftw> the messages are blocked intel
[04:28] <ps3userftw> i gotta register
[04:28] <sony> how do you install a theme
[04:28] <intelikey> !changethemes
[04:28] <ubotu> [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu
[04:29] <intelikey> ps3userftw don't waste your time registering just to pm me.   i'm ignoring pm's anyway.
[04:29] <sony> thanks intel
[04:29] <ps3userftw> o^
[04:30] <ps3userftw> well in the case ive downloaded a snes emulator(.rpm) and put it my kbuntu desktop what do i do with it after that ?
[04:31] <intelikey> file name ?
[04:31] <ps3userftw> snesx-1.43-6.2_powerpc.deb
[04:31] <ps3userftw> wait
[04:31] <ps3userftw> thats wrong
[04:31] <sony> ok so like i have this php file how am i supposed to install it on the themes
[04:31] <intelikey> dapper repos show      snes9express - GTK+ front-end for snes9x
[04:31] <intelikey> snes9x-opengl - OpenGL binaries for snes9x - Super NES Emulator
[04:31] <intelikey> snes9x-x - X binaries for snes9x - Super NES Emulator
[04:31] <intelikey> take your pic.
[04:32] <ps3userftw> snes9x-1.43-5.2.fc4.ppc.rpm
[04:33] <intelikey> ps3userftw what ever you want   chances are if there is an .rpm file of it there is already a .deb in the repos.
[04:33] <intelikey> always check there first.
[04:33] <ps3userftw> how do i check the repos ?
[04:33] <intelikey> !repos | ps3userftw
[04:33] <ubotu> ps3userftw: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:34] <ps3userftw> i just installed linux today :p
[04:34] <intelikey> !multiverse | ps3userftw
[04:34] <intelikey> must be the same link....
[04:36] <ps3userftw> k ill try this on my ps3 brb
[04:37] <thev> anyone know why when I press alt+mouse1 it wants to move the active window?  Is this a KDE hotkey or Beryl?
[04:37] <thev> it's wreaking havoc on my GIMP productivity
[04:37] <intelikey> thev that's standard X behaviour
[04:37] <thev> can I turn it off?
[04:37] <Yorokobi> thev, its a beryl thing. Use the beryl manager (settings) to change the binding
[04:38] <intelikey> ummmm don't know.   can you change the alt to something else in gimp ?
[04:39] <thev> intelikey - it's a useless feature for me, I just want to kill it and keep the GIMP functionality - there are so many key bindings, I don't want to loose any
[04:39] <intelikey> Yorokobi alt+mouse for moving windows is not "a beryl thing." ....
[04:39] <intelikey> thev i'm sure it can be done.   but don't ask me how.
[04:40] <intelikey> thev if you are running beryl  try Yorokobi's sujestion.
[04:40] <thev> Thanks Yorokobi - that was it
[04:40] <thev> I found it :)
[04:40] <thev> Oh Beryl... how I love thee, but how you mess with my mind... *sigh*
[04:43] <thev> hahaha... can't please everyone, eh?
[04:43] <intelikey> nope
[04:43] <thev> I guess I don't move windows around that much :/
[04:44] <thev> I'm used to windoze anyway... grab the top n move
[04:44] <intelikey> never opened a configurator that you couldn't see the top or bottom of it have you ?
[04:45] <ps3userftw> likey i only see one repos when i went to manage repositories, the guide i used to install kbuntu was this one http://psubuntu.com/installation-instructions/
[04:45] <Yorokobi> intelikey, not a Beryl thing, huh? :)
[04:45] <intelikey> Yorokobi no it's not.
[04:45] <ps3userftw> i attempted to use this guide for installing the emulator but had no success http://psubuntu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6
[04:46] <Yorokobi> intelikey, [20:42]  <thev> Thanks Yorokobi - that was it
[04:46] <intelikey> Yorokobi and ?
[04:47] <intelikey> Yorokobi if you are trying to say something, just say it.
[04:47] <Yorokobi> Is that same key/mouse binding present in kwin?
[04:47] <intelikey> yes
[04:47] <Yorokobi> by default?
[04:47] <intelikey> and twm
[04:47] <intelikey> and fluxbox
[04:47] <Yorokobi> For any part of the window?
[04:47] <intelikey> and icewm
[04:47] <Yorokobi> or just the title bar?
[04:47] <intelikey> yes
[04:48] <intelikey> no
[04:48] <thev> I never had it happen before... that's why I suspected Beryl, but I didn't know Beryl did key bindings liek that
[04:48] <intelikey> Yorokobi like i said it's NOT a beryl thing.
[04:48] <intelikey> it's an X thing.
[04:48] <Yorokobi> but it can be overridden by beryl
[04:48] <thev> I've used ALT+Mouse1 in KDE lots before Beryl came around
[04:48] <thev> in GIMP I mean
[04:48] <Yorokobi> beryl probably expands the scope of the binding, then
[04:49] <intelikey> kde may disable it for some apps that also set the same key bindings.     that would be my guess.
[04:50] <intelikey> now back to ps3userftw.    do you have network connectivity on the box in question ?
[04:50] <ps3userftw> no
[04:50] <BluesKaj> alt + mouse works without beryl
[04:51] <ps3userftw> i downloaded the rpms i needed and put them on the linux desktop
[04:51] <BluesKaj> <--no eye candy
[04:51] <ps3userftw> but i have no clue what to do with them :(
[04:51] <intelikey> ps3userftw ok then all the network (standard)  repos are unreachable to you.
[04:51] <thev> grrr.  Now beryl has stolen my F8 key... and I can't find the binding to disable it...
[04:51] <BluesKaj> !alien | ps3userftw
[04:51] <ubotu> ps3userftw: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:51] <intelikey> ps3userftw delete the .rpm files.
[04:52] <intelikey> ps3userftw go to packages.ubuntu.com and find what you want there and put them on that box.
[04:52] <intelikey> make sure to use the proper version.
[04:53] <ps3userftw> k
[04:53] <Mena> Thank all
[04:53] <ps3userftw> ubotu with the alien command i tried sudo alien "path to my rpmfile" and got a file not found error
[04:53] <ps3userftw> bot>_<
[04:54] <intelikey> !welcome | ps3userftw
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <ps3userftw> ty likey
[04:54] <intelikey> !thanks | ps3userftw
[04:54] <ubotu> ps3userftw: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:59] <intelikey> !glx > intelikey
[05:00] <icecruncher> hi, can anyone tell me how to add a command at startup?
[05:00] <intelikey> icecruncher put it in /etc/rc.local
[05:01] <icecruncher> the file is called like that?
[05:01] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/rc.local
[05:01] <icecruncher> yeah, i tried that, it  told me it was a new file, that ok?
[05:02] <intelikey> what version ?   7.4 ?
[05:02] <intelikey> feisty ?
[05:02] <icecruncher> yeah
[05:02] <intelikey> #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <icecruncher> k
[05:02] <intelikey> i don't know what they may have done to it.
[05:03] <icecruncher> thanks anyway
[05:03] <intelikey> any on previous releases that file is the "standard" for all user/admin rleated commands.
[05:04] <intelikey> typos are free.
[05:04] <icecruncher> hmm, they are all dead on that channel, i'll try again later. lol
[05:05] <intelikey> correct spelling and grammer will cost ya tho.
[05:05] <intelikey> :)
[05:05] <icecruncher> definatly
[05:08] <intelikey> icecruncher i'll go out on a limb and say if that file doesn't exist in feisty by default.  you can still creat it and it will work.       (however they have broke posix on several things already...)
[05:08] <ps3userftw> intellikey i downloaded  fceu http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/fceu (the orginal tr file) extracted the folder in windows and was going to put that folder on my ps3, inside the folder their is a install file that im presumming im suppose to click to install the emu?
[05:08] <Ashex> !mp3
[05:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:09] <Ashex> hmm
[05:09] <Ashex> feisty appears to have a few issues still
[05:09] <downdiagonal> i need some help
[05:10] <downdiagonal> when i switch to a virtual console i just get a black screen and then i can't switch back
[05:10] <downdiagonal> i have to reboot
[05:10] <Ashex> laptop?
[05:11] <icecruncher> Ashex: no, just install th right package
[05:11] <downdiagonal> nope
[05:11] <Ashex> icecruncher: that's not what I meant
[05:11] <Ashex> I'm loading konquerer and the little bouncy icon is twitching like crazy
[05:11] <icecruncher> lol
[05:11] <Ashex> it's not really bouncing, just flickering
[05:12] <Ashex> it's kinda like a rave with the strobe lights
[05:12] <Ashex> without the music :/
[05:12] <icecruncher> cool
[05:12] <icecruncher> but annoying, yeah, i wonder how you disable it.
[05:12] <intelikey> icecruncher   http://ubuntu.mirrors.tds.net/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/fceu/
[05:13] <sparr> how can i downgrade a kubuntu package?
[05:13] <ps3userftw> i downloaded  fceu http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/games/fceu (the orginal tr file) extracted the folder in windows and was going to put that folder on my ps3, inside the folder their is a install file that im presumming im suppose to click to install the emu? (using kbuntu)
[05:13] <Ashex> there's a setting for it
[05:14] <icecruncher> intelikey: what is that?
[05:14] <Ashex> and the canadian repos are really sluggish today :/
[05:14] <levi__> hello
[05:14] <intelikey> not the tar file.   why use the source when the binary is already there ?
[05:14] <levi__> i got that nvidia driver figured out
[05:14] <levi__> one thing though
[05:14] <ps3userftw> i download the binary;o
[05:15] <Ashex> hmmm
[05:15] <Ashex> I think the install messed itself
[05:15] <levi__> when i change the resolution to 1280x1024 for my monitor it doesnt restart xserver with taht
[05:15] <levi__> it goes back to 1024x768
[05:15] <levi__> how can i make it permanent
[05:16] <ps3userftw> are you talking about the .deb files
[05:16] <intelikey> "(the orginal tr file) extracted the folder"  <<< ps3user      let me make this plain.   you want the file that says  .deb  yes.
[05:16] <ps3userftw> correct
[05:17] <intelikey> you copy the *.deb to the destination computer and run   sudo dpkg -i  file.deb
[05:17] <chemicalvamp> !ps3>chemicalvamp
[05:17] <Ashex> I started installation last night, then i left to do laundry. When i came back, the progress window wasn't responding, but i figured it was done (had been 3 hours)
[05:17] <Ashex> booted into kubuntu without problems, but running it i'm having issues
[05:17] <ps3userftw> it doesnt matter where the file is on the computer just as long as the file name is right ?
[05:17] <Ashex> more then i would expect for the beta at 3 weeks before release
[05:17] <intelikey> and if it depends on other things you don't have yet it will tell you.   you get them and install the same way until the dependancies are met.
[05:18] <chemicalvamp> whats ps3?
[05:18] <intelikey> ps3userftw yes anywhere  as long as the path and file name is correct      /home/yourname/file.deb   /tmp/file.deb ...
[05:19] <icecruncher> Ashex: yeah, I'm having quite a few probs myself
[05:19] <intelikey> chemicalvamp i assume play station
[05:19] <ps3userftw> well imma try this out thanks again intelikey :O
[05:19] <levi__> how can i make it that xserver always starts at a certain resolution?
[05:19] <icecruncher> Like Kopete crashes randomly, it never did before. lol
[05:19] <Ashex> icecruncher: I'm going to give feisty benefit of the doubt and reinstall
[05:19] <chemicalvamp> oh, you guuys where discussing it like a package, so theres a linux for ps3 then huh
[05:19] <icecruncher> kk
[05:19] <Ashex> icecruncher: get the debug output and submit it on launchpad
[05:20] <icecruncher> I did
[05:20] <Ashex> icecruncher: anyone comment on it yet?
[05:20] <icecruncher> no
[05:20] <chemicalvamp> levi__ those settings are in /etc/x11/xserver i believe
[05:20] <icecruncher> lol
[05:20] <intelikey> chemicalvamp i wasn't discussing ps3  i was talking with ps3userftw
[05:21] <levi__> chemicalvamp, is that the same as xorg.conf?
[05:21] <chemicalvamp> levi__ be aware that setings in there can make xserver inoperable... soo do your homewok
[05:21] <icecruncher> Ashex: I'll just sit around and wait for updates. lol
[05:21] <chemicalvamp> levi__ yup
[05:21] <levi__> when i change the settings in there nothing happens
[05:21] <levi__> it reverts back to 1024x768
[05:21] <intelikey> man xserver
[05:21] <intelikey> man xserver
[05:22] <intelikey> ooops   bounce.
[05:22] <Ashex> icecruncher: that's the issue I'm having, bzip files are corrupt when updating repos list
[05:22] <chemicalvamp> i had an issue with that when i first started linux.. tryed setting up xga into there couldnt boot or modify th config file
[05:23] <icecruncher> Ashex: no, I don't get that yet
[05:23] <Ashex> bah
[05:23] <Ashex> brb, restarting x
[05:23] <asaup> hi all
[05:24] <Ashex> I've got a lot of junk processes running
[05:24] <asaup> i am trying to install crossover but it says cant open
[05:24] <asaup> what do i have to do ?
[05:24] <icecruncher> Ashex: how about fx freezing up a lot
[05:24] <chemicalvamp> how are you tryng to install it
[05:24] <icecruncher> lol
[05:24] <icecruncher> happnes to me constatly
[05:24] <asaup> sh install_crosoover
[05:25] <asaup> with sudo
[05:25] <chemicalvamp> cant you apt-get it?
[05:25] <intelikey> icecruncher he'll be back    -:- SignOff Ashex: #kubuntu (Remote closed the connection)
[05:25] <asaup> i downloaded it
[05:25] <icecruncher> pf, didn't see that, sorry
[05:26] <Ashex> eh, that's a little better
[05:27] <Ashex> it appears as though the canadian repos were being slammed
[05:27] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know the package that 'convert' is in?
[05:27] <Ashex> so i switched to the us repos
[05:27] <intelikey> Ashex  <icecruncher> Ashex: how about fx freezing up a lot
[05:27] <Ashex> fx?
[05:27] <icecruncher> Ashex: dunno, just happens
[05:27] <asaup> i found a package in adept called crossoverpro-technaligned
[05:27] <asaup> is this ok ?
[05:27] <asaup> does it work ?
[05:27] <chemicalvamp> try it out
[05:28] <icecruncher> Ashex: a lot on heavy sites though, the ones with flash content or heavy graphics
[05:28] <intelikey> !find crossoverpro
[05:28] <ubotu> Package/file crossoverpro does not exist in edgy
[05:28] <intelikey> !find crossoverpro feisty
[05:28] <ubotu> Package/file crossoverpro does not exist in feisty
[05:28] <asaup> :P
[05:29] <chemicalvamp> whats the comand to check apt-get for pacages.. cache something
[05:29] <intelikey> apt-cache search
[05:29] <intelikey> man apt-cache
[05:30] <Ashex> icecruncher: ah, I understand what you're saying. It's rather irritating when that occurs
[05:30] <Ashex> install the noscript extension
[05:30] <Ashex> there's another one that prevents flash content from automatically playing
[05:30] <Ashex> I forget the name
[05:31] <icecruncher> Ashex: yeah, it's called noscript
[05:31] <Ashex> icecruncher: nah, that's for javascript
[05:31] <Ashex> I'm talking about another one, for flash content
[05:31] <icecruncher> Ashex: yeah you can block that too
[05:32] <asaup> any idea on how to install crossover from the shell script that i have
[05:33] <Ashex> asaup: check the documentation on their site
[05:33] <intelikey> website devels are always trying to come up with a way to "force" viewing of things.     and users are always trying to prevent those things...       i say we shoot the site developers and get it over with.
[05:33] <Ashex> asaup: if you don't want to deal with all that, take a look at automatix
[05:33] <icecruncher> Ashex: ever have adept-udate crash on you? lol
[05:33] <Ashex> I generally avoid using gui to do update
[05:33] <Ashex> I prefer apt :)
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> seconded
[05:34] <intelikey> i agree       <Ashex> I generally avoid using gui
[05:34] <fignew> me too... but it really doesn't matter :p
[05:34] <asaup> !automatix
[05:34] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:34] <Ashex> when I run betas, I'm usually in terminal or another screen to do anything
[05:35] <Ashex> actually, I'm almost always in a termnal
[05:36] <BluesKaj> thunderbird links isn't accepting FF as the default browser ...anyone remember the fix for this ?   ...have it set as default in sys/settings , but no joy
[05:36] <Ashex> anywho, updates are finally done. now to reboot and see if it fixed anything
[05:36] <icecruncher> lol
[05:36] <intelikey> i'm almost never in a terminal...    nor any gui app...
[05:36] <Ashex> shell?
[05:36] <intelikey> console
[05:36] <intelikey> bash
[05:36] <chemicalvamp> lol i like !worksforme , somebody owned me with it, looking back it was funny
[05:36] <Ashex> ah
[05:37] <Ashex> I do lengthy tasks in console
[05:37] <Ashex> but for short commands, I just whip out konsole
[05:37] <Ashex> s/commands/tasks
[05:37] <icecruncher> yeah, quite a bit faster
[05:38] <Ashex> ah, the beauty of mounting the home directory
[05:38] <intelikey> !worksforme
[05:38] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:38] <BluesKaj> ok any you terminal cases , what's the thunderbird default browser fix ? :)
[05:38] <Ashex> I can do as many fresh installs as I like, but everything is just as it was before :)
[05:39] <intelikey> BluesKaj ummmm using fetchmail  and  Mail     lol
[05:39] <intelikey> terminal case indeed   :)
[05:39] <Ashex> I use kmail :/
[05:39] <Ashex> :P
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> used to use mutt, now pretty much a thunderbird guy
[05:40] <intelikey> BluesKaj i really don't know.   does thunderbird not have a listing for that in it's menu ?
[05:41] <utnubuk> man i cant get diablo 1 to run with wine... wheres elitehacker when you need him :/
[05:41] <BluesKaj> it might intelikey, but I can't seem to locate it
[05:42] <Ashex> i got diablo 2 running in cedega...
[05:42] <Ashex> anywho, reboot!
[05:42] <intelikey> i've never used thunderbird.     figured any mail client that   After unpacking 30.3MB of additional disk space will be used...   just wasn't for me.
[05:42] <bobstro> if i was worried about disk space, i don't think i'd be running kubuntu!
[05:43] <bobstro> BluesKaj: you want to change the default browser it launches when you click on a url?
[05:43] <intelikey> bobstro well i'm not running kubuntu
[05:43] <bobstro> intelikey: for some reason, i suspect some here might.
[05:44] <intelikey> yeah some might  :)
[05:44] <Ashex> random question
[05:44] <Ashex> but where does apt store the cache?
[05:44] <intelikey> Q. what's the differance in a duck?
[05:44] <Ashex> heh
[05:44] <intelikey> oh you said  <Ashex> random question ....
[05:44] <bobstro> Ashex: /var/cache/apt
[05:45] <Ashex> ah, thanks bobstro
[05:45] <intelikey> Ashex the cache ?     dl'd packages ?    /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?      database information ?    /var/cache/apt/
[05:45] <Ashex> I think I'm going to reinstall, issues keep popping up
[05:45] <BluesKaj> bobstro: yes
[05:46] <Ashex> yeah, the packages that are downloaded
[05:46] <intelikey> no /var/lib/apt  i mean
[05:46] <bobstro> the actual debs are under /var/cache/apt/archives
[05:46] <intelikey> yes that   ^
[05:46] <Ashex> yeah, I have all the preferences from edgy in my home directory, so I have the odd feeling it is throwing off a few things
[05:46] <bobstro> BluesKaj: i haven't had to do this, but check out http://www.knoppix.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=89619
[05:47] <Ashex> anywho, reboot time
[05:47] <chemicalvamp> Random Q: how much is a player made zet worth on pegasus server?
[05:47] <sayers> does work rave really stop RSI because I think I am getting it really really bad
[05:47] <intelikey> ashex      when you get back so you can read this.   add a new user and try that account.        will dis/prove your theory.
[05:48] <bobstro> sayers: it doesn't STOP it, but reduces odds of getting it.
[05:48] <bobstro> sayers: there's more to it than just pauses though, so consider workrave one part of the overall strategy for avoiding the problem.
[05:50] <sayers> bobstro: well I've been looking into it but, all in all I have the wave keyboard and all the ergonomic stuff. I use the right posture mostly but its really bad.
[05:50] <bobstro> sayers: if it's bad, see a doc.
[05:50] <bobstro> sayers: i've been lucky not to have issues, but i know it really hurts some people.
[05:51] <sayers> bobstro: not going to die. but if it gets worse and worse it will get bad
[05:51] <bobstro> sayers: you just don't want to lose ability to use the computer!
[05:52] <bobstro> sayers: no idea why, but i've managed not to get it after all these years.
[05:52] <imprimatur> tem alguem do brasil
[05:52] <bobstro> sayers: but some seem to get zapped within a year.
[05:52] <imprimatur> ??
[05:52] <sayers> bobstro: I have been using the computer a long time with somewhat proper posture
[05:52] <sayers> I guess Ill have to read up more on it
[05:53] <bobstro> sayers: i slouch and hold my wrists at desk edge and all the bad habits, but so far, 20+ years and i'm fine.
[05:54] <sayers> bobstro: it's only started since I moved to this new desk
[05:54] <sayers> bobstro: one part I might have to just remove because I know it'd most likely help
[05:54] <bobstro> sayers: my eyesight is finally getting to be a problem.
[05:55] <bobstro> sayers: you getting numbness?
[05:55] <sayers> bobstro: no my wrists are fine unless I stretch them
[05:56] <sayers> bobstro: and if I follow the vein line to my elbow pressing on it it hurts
[05:56] <bobstro> sayers: you got the squeezeball?
[05:56] <sayers> not badly just you can feel it
[05:56] <sayers> bobstro: no
[05:56] <bobstro> sayers: that's the only thng i've ever used.
[05:56] <bobstro> sayers: just change it up after a prolonged period.
[05:56] <sayers> bobstro: sounds like a very cheap soloution
[05:57] <bobstro> sayers: hehe, yeah from back before it became a multi-million dollar business. :)
[05:57] <sayers> bobstro: I think I just need to get on the other side of it before it does get back
[05:57] <bobstro> sayers: just get the squeezy balls. they're fun to play with anyhow.
[05:57] <bobstro> sayers: a tennis ball is fine too.
[05:57] <sayers> bobstro: I took that peace out gonna raise my chair very high up now
[05:57] <sayers> bobstro: if anything I dont feal closterfobic :P
[05:58] <bobstro> sayers: i wouldn't go nuts about it, just common sense.
[05:58] <utnubuk> can i configure openoffice writer to create a new backup file every time instead of overwritng the same one over and over?
[05:58] <sayers> hehe
[05:58] <utnubuk> i almost lost another paper and I want to make damn sure i never lose another one
[06:00] <bobstro> utnubuk: i run an rsync to make a copy of docs on a regular basis. not exactly what you're after, but it might be another thing to consider.
[06:01] <BluesKaj> bobstro: where is this mozilla-thunderbird/xxx.default/prefs.js supposed to reside ?
[06:01] <utnubuk> bobstro: thanks man i'll look it up
[06:01] <bobstro> BluesKaj: the xxx is random string
[06:01] <bobstro> BluesKaj: hang on...
[06:01] <sayers> bobstro: I dont have carpel tunnel I know that :)
[06:02] <bobstro> BluesKaj: do you have a .mozilla-thunderbird in $HOME
[06:02] <bobstro> ?
[06:03] <BluesKaj> no
[06:04] <bobstro> BluesKaj: sorry, i'm doing an upgrade and don't have my thunderbird set up yet.
[06:04] <bobstro> BluesKaj: do a find for prefs.js.
[06:05] <sayers> bobstro: am I aloud to rest my arms on my armrests on the chair?
[06:05] <BluesKaj> yes bobstro..doing it
[06:09] <bobstro> sayers: you're making yourself neurotic! just don't pinch or cutoff blood flow.
[06:09] <bobstro> sayers: it's doing stuff at same position millions of times that hurts. just stretch, change up position now and then.
[06:10] <asaup> i have installed automatix bleeder. i want to install the latest nvidia drivers from there but i want to know that if i install the nvidia drivers from there will the drivers be adapted to my kernel and will automatix do the configuration for me or may be the drivers will not work and i will have problems
[06:11] <clever[rev] > how do i get kdm to login automaticaly at startup?
[06:14] <sayers> Is there any speech reconigition for Kubuntu?
[06:14] <Omnifrog> you know....
[06:14] <Omnifrog> windows really is better than Linux
[06:15] <sayers> Omnifrog: why is that?
[06:15] <sinpath> ya in what way?
[06:15] <sayers> sinpath: Only games
[06:16] <Omnifrog> cause Linux isn't as good as windows
[06:16] <sinpath> slayers: your right
[06:16] <MuJ> nah... wc3 & frozen throne & dota works just fine in wine ^_^
[06:16] <sayers> sinpath: it is S A Y E R S :)
[06:16] <MuJ> Omnifrog: you're right, linux is better than windows
[06:16] <sinpath> lol mybadlol
[06:17] <sayers> Omnifrog: what is wrong with linux?
[06:17] <icecruncher> how do you unlock the package database when you hit ctrl+z to exit the process while it was still running?
[06:17] <sinpath> other than having to download the  packets nothing is what i say ^_^
[06:18] <Omnifrog> lol, just stopping in to see who is here
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> icecruncher, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:18] <Omnifrog> night folks
[06:18] <sinpath> nite
[06:18] <MuJ> mm.. right
[06:18] <sayers> cya and dont let the windows bite
[06:18] <icecruncher> hitmanWilly: I tried that, it says that it's locked
[06:18] <sayers> !voice recognition
[06:18] <sayers> Grr!
[06:18] <sayers> dumb bot
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> hmmm...
[06:19] <sinpath> voice recognition!
[06:19] <sinpath> hmm
[06:20] <jordan> I am trying to dist-upgrade using https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade, but it isn't working
[06:20] <sayers> sinpath: know of any?
[06:21] <icecruncher> jordan: upgrade to feisty?
[06:21] <jordan> icecruncher: yes
[06:21] <sinpath> cant say i do  right off
[06:21] <jordan> icecruncher: I heard some of the kernel problems are resolved in fiesty
[06:21] <icecruncher> yeah
[06:22] <icecruncher> hmm, there was something about gksudo "upgrade -d -c"  | this is what it looks similar too, not the exact code
[06:23] <sayers> will someone go to the bathroom for me please
[06:23] <sayers> I dont want to get up :(
[06:23] <sinpath> lol i got to go anyways
[06:24] <sayers> well I am going to go
[06:24] <sayers> I wish all my kubuntuers a good night
[06:25] <Ashex> I gotta say that install time seems way faster then before
[06:26] <icecruncher> Ashex: you just reinstalled feisty?
[06:26] <Ashex> anywho, anyone know where the firefox settings are stored?
[06:26] <Ashex> icecruncher: yep
[06:26] <icecruncher> that ws fast
[06:26] <Ashex> yeah, it took about 20-25 minutes or so
[06:26] <icecruncher> Ashex: I usually take about 3 hours just for download lol
[06:27] <Ashex> hehe
[06:27] <Ashex> well, I kinda cheated and backed up the apt cache
[06:27] <icecruncher> haha
[06:27] <se7en11> somebody uses hamachi from linux to windows?
[06:27] <icecruncher> Ashex: also internet in asia sucks
[06:28] <icecruncher> se7en11: I haven't tried it yet, but you'll have to use wine, and probably use samba at that
[06:28] <Ashex> hamachi is a vpn client, so samba isn't needed
[06:28] <se7en11> icecruncher: no there is a linux version and my side works
[06:29] <icecruncher> ahh, but still samba becaus your connecting to windows, no?
[06:29] <se7en11> that was my question
[06:29] <icecruncher> I'll check
[06:30] <Ashex> !samba
[06:30] <jordan> anyone know how to upgrade to fiesty?
[06:30] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:30] <jordan> I am trying really hard to follow this wiki https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[06:31] <Ashex> jordan: Feisty won't be released for a couple more weeks
[06:32] <icecruncher> Ashex: fx just did it agian for 40 secs lol
[06:33] <luckyone> Ashex: you can still upgrade
[06:33] <luckyone> Ashex: to the beta
[06:33] <Ashex> luckyone: you can, the quick way is to edit sources.list and do a dist-upgrade
[06:34] <luckyone> Ashex: yeah, the kubuntu wiki was trying to promote the new, easy to use updater. It doesn't ask me if I want to dist upgrade
[06:35] <icecruncher> adept-updater is still buggy!
[06:36] <Ashex> eh
[06:36] <Ashex> I prefer to do it the old fashioned way
[06:37] <chemicalvamp> i keep getting Unexpected end of data, some information may be lost. in konqueror, whats up with that
[06:38] <utnubuk> if i set up an ftp server on my lan nobody will be able to connect to it from the internet will they???
[06:38] <Ashex> utnubuk: as long as it is behind a router
[06:38] <Ashex> and you don't have the ftp port forwarded to it
[06:38] <utnubuk> Ashex: ok ty
[06:40] <flaccid> anyone using apache2 with mod_auth_digest?
[06:40] <Ashex> !nvidia > me
[06:41] <crazy_penguin> Good morning!
[06:41] <icecruncher> se7en11: sorry It's taking a while, firefox loves crashing on me
[06:41] <se7en11> :)
[06:42] <sinpath> ok can any one help me with printing a pdf ?
[06:45] <icecruncher> morning crazy_penguin
[06:46] <icecruncher> se7en11: have you seen  this post? http://forums.hamachi.cc/viewtopic.php?t=3421
[06:47] <crazy_penguin> icecruncher: :)
[06:49] <icecruncher> crazy_penguin: though it's almost noon here
[06:50] <crazy_penguin> icecruncher: it's 7.30 am here
[06:50] <icecruncher> se7en11: though you could try to run hamachi, the win version along with the win game, (it's a win game right?)
[06:51] <arke> hi
[06:51] <arke> is it possible to connect to windows drive shares?
[06:51] <icecruncher> yeah, samba
[06:51] <arke> and if so, could you refer me to docs where i can read up on that?
[06:51] <icecruncher> !samba
[06:51] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:51] <utnubuk> is there a tutorial on connecting to a mac with kubuntu?? i just want to use konqueror or something to surf around the filesystem....
[06:52] <arke> thanks. :)
[06:52] <sinpath> is there any way to get a pdf to show up for printing?
[06:52] <icecruncher> utnubuk: not sure, I think there is a protocol that lets yuo do that
[06:53] <utnubuk> icecruncher: are you talking about ssh?
[06:53] <icecruncher> no
[06:54] <flaccid> utnubuk: smb://hostname
[06:54] <utnubuk> flaccid: ok
[06:54] <sinpath> darn
[06:54] <flaccid> or fish://
[06:54] <flaccid> or maybe even sftp://
[06:54] <flaccid> ftp:// as well
[06:55] <icecruncher> sinpath: try edocument viewr
[06:56] <sinpath> it shows up  it just wont print
[06:56] <chemicalvamp> !ati>chemicalvamp
[06:56] <icecruncher> have you tried adobes reader
[06:57] <icecruncher> sinpath
[06:57] <flaccid> have you configured printing correctly?
[06:57] <sinpath> kpdf is what it opens with
[06:57] <icecruncher> try a different program
[06:57] <sinpath> as far as i know i have
[06:57] <flaccid> check your cups logs
[06:58] <sinpath> it wont open in another program set as symbols
[06:58] <icecruncher> sinpath: are you looking for a program witht hte print function or a print error?
[06:59] <icecruncher> *is it a error
[06:59] <sinpath>  neither the pdf wont print out on the printer  it just sends out a blank page
[06:59] <icecruncher> ahh
[06:59] <utnubuk> !fish
[06:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fish - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <sinpath> !game
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about game - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <sinpath> wow
[07:01] <sinpath> !wow
[07:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:01] <sinpath> ok thanks for the help any ways
[07:02] <chemicalvamp> can someone tell me a subversion clicnt with a browse view?
[07:02] <sinpath> !medai
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about medai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <chemicalvamp> anything other than cli svn clients?
[07:03] <draik> How can I change the paper size in OpenOffice?
[07:03] <icecruncher> chemicalvamp?
[07:03] <icecruncher> what
[07:04] <chemicalvamp> cli=command line interface.. svn=subversion
[07:05] <Jucato> !kdesvn
[07:05] <ubotu> See http://developer.kde.org/source/anonsvn.html for details on accessing KDE's code via SVN
[07:05] <Jucato> bah...
[07:05] <icecruncher> no idea, sorry
[07:05] <Jucato> !info kdesvn
[07:05] <ubotu> kdesvn: subversion client with tight KDE integration. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (edgy), package size 1405 kB, installed size 3304 kB
[07:05] <chemicalvamp> just what i was looking for thanks
[07:05] <Jucato> !info kdesvn-kio-plugins
[07:05] <ubotu> kdesvn-kio-plugins: subversion I/O slaves for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1 (edgy), package size 233 kB, installed size 796 kB
[07:06] <chemicalvamp> Jucato yeah thanks installing them now
[07:09] <draik> Jucato: How do I set the paper size in OpenOffice?
[07:09] <Jucato> draik: hm... let me try to check. not really familiar with OO.o though
[07:09] <draik> !openoffice
[07:09] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[07:10] <Jucato> draik: Format menu -> Page
[07:10] <draik> Perfect
[07:10] <draik> Thank you
[07:10] <draik> Jucato: You're the brainiac.
[07:10] <Jucato> heh :)
[07:11] <draik> I'm trying to publish a few stories I've written, but I want to change the page size first
[07:11] <Jucato> oooh good luck :)
[07:13] <jlist> hi all, what's the best way to upgrade Python to version 2.5? Should I uninstall Python 2.4? That'll cause the uninstallation of many packages i suppose
[07:13] <jlist> hi all, what's the best way to upgrade Python to version 2.5?
[07:14] <jlist> Should I uninstall Python 2.4? That'll cause the uninstallation of many packages i suppose
[07:14] <Jucato> you can have both installed I think
[07:14] <icecruncher> yeah
[07:14] <mds> hi, im trying to install kubuntu edgy on my laptop, i downloaded and burnt the alternate cd because its only 128mb, and when i go to install my screen goes all fuzzy and askew, anyone know what the problem could be?
[07:15] <jlist> right. but i'll only need one
[07:15] <icecruncher> install 2.5 and try an autoclean
[07:15] <lolote>  hehe all
[07:15] <jlist> python 2.5 is not available in aptitude...
[07:15] <lolote> jai une question
[07:15] <jlist> oh, how to do an autoclean?
[07:15] <Jucato> mds: you might have downloaded something wrong, because the alternate install cd isn't 128MB only
[07:16] <aabrahao> hi, anyone knows how install vmware tools in ubuntu server with kde?
[07:16] <jlist> icecruncher -  how to do an autoclean?
[07:16] <icecruncher> sudo aptitude autoclean
[07:16] <mds> Jucato: hmm?
[07:16] <lolote> how to install java run environnemtn
[07:16] <mds> JucatoL i mean my laptop only has 128mb of ram, sorry
[07:17] <jlist> icecruncher - i see. thanks. Should i install from source?
[07:17] <mds> Jucato: i mean my laptop only has 128mb of ram, sorry
[07:17] <icecruncher> jlist: try using the package
[07:17] <lolote> how to install java run environnemtn
[07:17] <icecruncher> lolote: use synaptic
[07:17] <Jucato> !java | lolote
[07:17] <ubotu> lolote: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[07:17] <jlist> icecruncher - hmm. it's not showing up in aptitude
[07:18] <lolote> bof konsole thts better
[07:18] <icecruncher> jlist: try synaptic
[07:18] <icecruncher> lol
[07:18] <lolote> but that on gnome
[07:19] <jlist> icecruncher - on my kubuntu, it's adept
[07:19] <lolote> i have kde
[07:19] <lolote> ok
[07:19] <icecruncher> sorry, that's what I mean, lol, I switched from ubunt to kubunt
[07:20] <lolote> do you try debian
[07:20] <jlist> np. let me try that
[07:20] <jlist> but doesn't adept use the same repository as aptitude?
[07:21] <jlist> it's not in adept either
[07:22] <lolote> hey which play game do you try and you lliked
[07:22] <mds> hi, im trying to install kubuntu edgy on my laptop, i downloaded and burnt the alternate cd because its only 128mb of ram, and when i go to install my screen goes all fuzzy and askew, anyone know what the problem could be?
[07:22] <lolote> on linux
[07:23] <Jucato> !info python2.5 edgy
[07:23] <ubotu> python2.5: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.5). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3164 kB, installed size 11744 kB
[07:23] <lolote> hey which play game do you try and you lliked a
[07:23] <lolote> hey which play game do you try and you lliked a
[07:23] <Jucato> jlist: what version of Kubuntu are you on?
[07:23] <josh_> I use Knotes frequently between few people,  is there anyway to have messages sent to 'Bob' or 'Jim' rather than an ip address?
[07:23] <jlist> hmm ubotu, i might be running a very old version of kubuntu
[07:23] <lolote> hey what is the french pack for kubuntu
[07:24] <lolote> the name*
[07:24] <jlist> Jucato - what is that command?
[07:24] <lolote> yes
[07:24] <Jucato> jlist: lsb_release -a
[07:25] <lolote> if nobody know that let me search
[07:25] <lolote> lol
[07:25] <icecruncher> jlist: did you add any repos
[07:25] <icecruncher> ?
[07:25] <jlist> Jucato - breezy 5.10
[07:25] <jlist> old old
[07:25] <Jucato> jlist: eeek... yes, that's old
[07:25] <aabrahao> hi, anyone knows how install vmware tools in ubuntu server with kde?
[07:26] <Jucato> breezy will reach its end of life when feisty is released
[07:26] <jlist> Jucato: yeah. i got stuff installed on it so i'm still using it
[07:26] <jlist> tried upgrade before, wasn't successful
[07:27] <lolote> sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr
[07:27] <lolote> ??
[07:27] <lolote> is it the french pack for kubuntu
[07:27] <lolote> ??
[07:27] <lolote> i will try
[07:29] <aabrahao> is there a apt-get install to vmware tools?
[07:30] <mds> !vmware
[07:30] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[07:30] <HyperNexus> I am trying to install my modem drivers and am having a few problems
[07:31] <HyperNexus> I am following this guide here, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ConexantModem
[07:31] <HyperNexus> But get a "FATAL error" when I use sudo modprobe hsfserial
[07:32] <HyperNexus> Just wondering if anyone has any suggestions
[07:38] <icecruncher> no sorry
[07:39] <HyperNexus> anyone else?
[07:43] <mds> hi, im trying to install kubuntu edgy on my laptop, i downloaded and burnt the alternate cd because its only 128mb of ram, and when i go to install my screen goes all fuzzy and askew, anyone know what the problem could be?
[07:47] <icecruncher> mds: try lowering your screen resolution
[07:48] <mds> how on a laptop?
[07:49] <icecruncher> the cd is live?
[07:49] <mds> no
[07:49] <mds> alternate install
[07:50] <mds> because i have less than the 192mb of ram you need for regular install
[07:50] <icecruncher> right, so it goes fuzzy whle installing or after?
[07:50] <lolote> who can help me
[07:50] <lolote> to translate kubuntu in french
[07:51] <Jucato> !fr | lolote
[07:51] <ubotu> lolote: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:51] <icecruncher> lolote: je nai pas bien en francais
[07:51] <lolote> ok lol
[07:52] <mds> the main screen is fine (choosing how to install) but then as soon as i choose a method it goes all freaky like it did on the regular dosk
[07:52] <mds> disk*
[07:52] <lolote> we say '' je ne suis pas tres bon en francais '' :P
[07:52] <lolote> ICE
[07:52] <icecruncher> lol
[07:52] <icecruncher> like i said
[07:53] <icecruncher> it's been a long time
[07:53] <lolote> lol
[07:53] <icecruncher> mds: no, I don't know sorry
[07:54] <lolote> ok
[07:54] <mds> icecruncher: http://i3.tinypic.com/2hd2q12.jpg theres what it looks like
[07:55] <lolote> lol the canal kubuntu fr is sleeping
[07:55] <habini> anyone from romania here....
[07:55] <lolote> Mmmm quebec that the same :P
[07:55] <icecruncher> l
[07:55] <habini> :)
[07:55] <icecruncher> dang
[07:56] <habini> maybe ding.....
[07:56] <icecruncher> ?
[07:58] <icecruncher> mds: I get some simmilar screens but they are not related to any programs, simply my monitor is interfeering with the freqs put out by tthe local powerbox
[07:59] <mds> how can i fix it?
[07:59] <lolote> how to change the resolution of the screen
[07:59] <icecruncher> are you close to anything with radiation ?lol
[07:59] <mds> haha
[07:59] <mds> no
[07:59] <lolote> my screen is too big like 500x600
[07:59] <lolote> lol
[07:59] <mds> except the bigtub of uranium next to my bed
[07:59] <icecruncher> what kind of laptop is it?
[08:00] <lolote> how to change the resolution of the screen
[08:00] <mds> "Balance"
[08:00] <mds> bought it with Linspire installed on it
[08:00] <lolote> how to change the resolution of the screen
[08:00] <lolote> please
[08:01] <icecruncher> balance, is that a brand?
[08:01] <icecruncher> resolution
[08:01] <lolote> yes like
[08:01] <mds> yes
[08:01] <icecruncher> main menu > sys settings
[08:01] <lolote> 1024x 1080
[08:01] <lolote> ok
[08:01] <icecruncher> > monitor display
[08:01] <lolote> on kubuntu
[08:01] <icecruncher> yeah
[08:02] <mds> icecruncher: any ideas on a fix?
[08:02] <chemicalvamp> whats a linux p2p?
[08:02] <mds> emule
[08:03] <mds> aamule*
[08:03] <icecruncher> mds: try this? maybe lol http://www.laptoprepairguy.com/laptop/2006/02/22/troubleshoot-fix-laptop-video-problems/all-comments/
[08:03] <mds> amule**
[08:03] <lolote> hey ice , are you on gnome
[08:03] <icecruncher> no
[08:03] <icecruncher> kde
[08:03] <lolote> ok
[08:04] <mds> icecruncher: ya, already tried hooking it up to my PC moniter
[08:04] <icecruncher> still the same?
[08:04] <mds> ya
[08:04] <icecruncher> wierd
[08:04] <mds> linspire will boot up fine thoughj
[08:04] <icecruncher> the  installer is on the cd ?
[08:04] <lolote> is it system monitor
[08:04] <mds> ya
[08:05] <icecruncher> try redownloading it
[08:05] <mds> its not the cd
[08:05] <icecruncher> on a  new cd
[08:05] <icecruncher> u sure
[08:05] <mds> ive tried 4 or 5 diffent ones
[08:05] <icecruncher> ?
[08:05] <icecruncher> wow
[08:05] <mds> ya
[08:05] <icecruncher> nope, really sorry
[08:06] <mds> thanks anyway
[08:06] <icecruncher> sure
[08:06] <lolote> but i dont find it
[08:07] <icecruncher> first hit the menubutton > select system settings (under help)
[08:08] <lolote> ohh
[08:08] <lolote> ok lol
[08:08] <icecruncher> mds: try looking on launchpad
[08:08] <lolote> i didnt see it
[08:08] <lolote> lol
[08:08] <icecruncher> lol
[08:08] <lolote> just seeting or system
[08:08] <icecruncher> ?
[08:09] <icecruncher> it's called "Monitor & Display"
[08:09] <icecruncher> try settings
[08:10] <lolote> that dont want change
[08:10] <lolote> that just stay at 480x640
[08:11] <lolote> ok i need root acces
[08:11] <icecruncher> ya
[08:11] <lolote> but how to do tha
[08:11] <lolote> lol that my first day
[08:12] <icecruncher> mds: I hope it works out somehow
[08:12] <lolote> loll
[08:12] <mds> thank
[08:12] <icecruncher> lolote: don't worry, it'll come with time
[08:12] <lolote> lol i find
[08:12] <icecruncher> you learn day by day
[08:13] <icecruncher> well, I'm off to lunch, so long
[08:13] <lolote> ok
[08:15] <rigved> hi can anybody pls help with a small problem
[08:15] <rigved> on kubuntu i have to be connected to the intrernet even if i want to only access localhost
[08:16] <lolote> ok
[08:16] <lolote> i canr
[08:16] <lolote> cant
[08:16] <lolote> and when i m onroot
[08:17] <rigved> lolote: shud i be root to access localhost without connecting to the interne
[08:17] <lolote> i cant change my resolution
[08:18] <twiztr> So when I click on the mailto: link in firefox, thunderbird doesn't open. Nothing happens.
[08:18] <lolote> Mmm i dont understand you
[08:18] <rigved> lolote do u develop websites locally
[08:18] <lolote> if i have a website
[08:19] <lolote> but
[08:19] <lolote> i just want to know how to change the resolution of my screen
[08:20] <flaccid> did you try kcontrol, lolote?
[08:20] <rigved> windows had this option of bypasssing local addreses
[08:21] <xt{c}> i tried downloading kubuntu and i think i got ubuntu actually. the kubuntu 7.04 beta dvd should boot into kde not gnome when you choose to install right ?
[08:21] <rigved> does kubuntu have that too
[08:21] <rigved> maybe i shud come some other time
[08:21] <flaccid> rigved: for http proxy?
[08:21] <qweas> xt{c}: probably... a quick fix would be to launch synaptic and install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[08:21] <rigved> flaccid hi
[08:21] <rigved> flaccid i want to connect to localhost without connetying to the internet
[08:22] <flaccid> xt{c}: thats correct
[08:22] <flaccid> connect via which protocol
[08:22] <xt{c}> i think i'll just wait till it's no longer beta. how much longer is it till then ?
[08:22] <rigved> basically by entering http://localhost
[08:23] <flaccid> yes rigved that is probably how you want to do it
[08:23] <flaccid> assuming you have a http server on port 80
[08:23] <rigved> flaccid ya apache
[08:23] <flaccid> ok cool
[08:24] <rigved> flaccid, i just want to connect to mysql server on localhost without having to connect to the internet
[08:24] <twiztr> So no one can help?
[08:24] <rigved> this was possible in windows
[08:25] <flaccid> rigved: well mysql server is not http it uses a different port and protocol
[08:25] <flaccid> twiztr: whats the prob
[08:25] <rigved> flaccid i cant even connect to localhost/my_web
[08:25] <flaccid> rigved: why? is apache running?
[08:25] <flaccid> are you looking for phpmyadmin?
[08:26] <twiztr> When I click a mailto: link in Firefox, nothing happens. I just installed thunderbird, so it should trigger that.
[08:26] <rigved> flaccid: i think so
[08:27] <rigved> flaccid not really.. let me disconnect now and try again..
[08:27] <flaccid> rigved:  you have to be specific
[08:29] <flaccid> twiztr: i'm sorry i dont know
[08:29] <rigved> flaccid: ok let me give u an example
[08:29] <rigved> flaccid: i m developing a php site and developing it locally with its address being http://localhost/my_website
[08:30] <rigved> flaccid: now to access this i have to type it and get to it
[08:30] <rigved> flaccid: but if i m not connected to the internet like right now
[08:30] <rigved> flaccid: then i can t access it
[08:30] <flaccid> thats weird
[08:30] <rigved> flaccid: when i connect, it pops up
[08:30] <flaccid> so apache is running
[08:30] <flaccid> whats the error
[08:31] <rigved> flaccid: flacid could u pls tell me what is the command to restart apache?
[08:31] <flaccid> sudo apache2ctl restart
[08:31] <flaccid> if you are using apache2
[08:31] <rigved> flaccid: yes and thanks, i m going to try all this and come bacl
[08:31] <flaccid> ok np
[08:33] <_spaz> hmm...
[08:33] <_spaz> how do i install new boot splash screens in kubuntu?
[08:36] <_spaz> i'm trying to install themes from KDE-Look.org
[08:37] <icecruncher> _spaz: and it doesn't work?
[08:37] <_spaz> no, i dunno how :p
[08:37] <icecruncher> open the contro center
[08:38] <giod> hello
[08:38] <icecruncher> s(sysem settings)
[08:38] <_spaz> yes?
[08:38] <vinzon> hello guys
[08:39] <_spaz> wait, no, i mean the boot splash screen in grub :p
[08:39] <icecruncher> ah
[08:40] <icecruncher> _spaz: just a sec
[08:40] <_spaz> kay
[08:42] <icecruncher> _spaz: maybe this will help http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Different_usplash
[08:42] <Wonderguy6> Hey Mopar!
[08:42] <_spaz> ty icecruncher
[08:42] <icecruncher> _spaz: do you want t custom one?
[08:43] <_spaz> yeah
[08:44] <Gigaamd> how do i unrestrict repositories?  I want to be download apps.  I know you have to go into the management repositories and add a command line.  I forgot.  Does anyone know?
[08:45] <icecruncher> _spaz: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228104
[08:45] <_spaz> thanks man :D
[08:47] <icecruncher> Gigaamd:  what do you mean?
[08:48] <Gigaamd> well i cant remember how i find this.  You have to open management repositories and input "deb..." and the you could updated.  The you go to add/remove and more apps selection
[08:49] <icecruncher> open adept-manager
[08:49] <Gigaamd> yes
[08:49] <icecruncher> hit Adept > repositories
[08:49] <Gigaamd> yeap
[08:50] <icecruncher> Gigaamd: that don't do it?
[08:50] <icecruncher> select the stuf you want, especially third party
[08:50] <Gigaamd> yeah.  but what the command line to input in the
[08:51] <Gigaamd> but i get the "grey" areas and i cant access them
[08:51] <icecruncher> ?
[08:51] <Gigaamd> grey icons
[08:51] <icecruncher> oh
[08:51] <icecruncher> you have to use sudo
[08:53] <icecruncher> sudo adept_manager is the code
[08:53] <Gigaamd> just open the terminal and type in sudo adept_manager?
[08:54] <icecruncher> yeah
[08:54] <icecruncher> then password of course
[08:54] <Gigaamd> ok here is another problem
[08:54] <icecruncher> what's that?
[08:54] <Gigaamd> i cant find mozilla firefox on the add/remove
[08:54] <Gigaamd> i have konqueror.  Not crazy about it
[08:54] <icecruncher> lol
[08:55] <icecruncher> can you use fx?
[08:55] <Gigaamd> what is fx?
[08:55] <icecruncher> firefox
[08:55] <Gigaamd> yes] 
[08:55] <Gigaamd> but kubuntu wont allow me to access
[08:55] <flaccid> why
[08:55] <icecruncher> hmm, you can use it but you don't see it in add/remove?
[08:56] <Gigaamd> no... i had to reinstall kubuntu.  i dont see it in add/remove
[08:57] <icecruncher> try adding the software repositories first, then you might see it
[08:57] <Gigaamd> how do i do that?
[08:57] <icecruncher> using adept
[08:57] <flaccid> Gigaamd: is firefox installed?
[08:58] <Gigaamd> no is not installed.  want to install it
[08:58] <icecruncher> ahh
[08:58] <flaccid> install the package firefox
[08:59] <Gigaamd> i dont know how to do it.  i cant figure it out
[08:59] <flaccid> !firefox
[08:59] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:59] <flaccid> hmm
[09:00] <flaccid> !find firefox
[09:00] <ubotu> Found: mozilla-firefox-locale-ar, mozilla-firefox-locale-bg-bg, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-bd, mozilla-firefox-locale-bn-in, mozilla-firefox-locale-ca (and 57 others)
[09:00] <flaccid> Gigaamd: find it in your gui package manager or install via sudo apt-get install firefox in konsole
[09:00] <icecruncher> flaccid: aptitude is better tough
[09:01] <horus> ma qualche italiano qui c?
[09:01] <flaccid> icecruncher: in some respects. but either will install the package
[09:01] <icecruncher> true
[09:01] <flaccid> which is the point
[09:02] <icecruncher> lol
[09:02] <smile> good morning !!
[09:02] <icecruncher> flaccid: though i heard aptitude makes cleaner updates, and fixes the dpendencies better
[09:03] <smile> my problem is with Beryl .. i cant have windows decoration when  i run Beryl !!
[09:03] <smile> any help plz ?
[09:04] <flaccid> icecruncher: i've heard that too
[09:04] <flaccid> do i need it, no.
[09:04] <icecruncher> lol
[09:04] <flaccid> define cleaner update
[09:04] <flaccid> define fix deps better
[09:05] <icecruncher> as in removes old stuff that might get missed with apt-get for ex. libraries
[09:05] <icecruncher> dep, check them throughly
[09:06] <flaccid> well 'stuff' shouldn't get 'missed'
[09:06] <icecruncher> flaccid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=359833
[09:06] <flaccid> i have never seen a case where aptitude has managed to do something apt-get hasn't
[09:07] <icecruncher> sorry "Actually aptitude DOES NOT handle dependencies better anymore"
[09:07] <flaccid> haha
[09:08] <icecruncher> rotfl
[09:08] <flaccid> 'better'
[09:08] <icecruncher> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/aptitude
[09:08] <flaccid> its such a stupid word
[09:08] <flaccid> yes i've used it a lot
[09:08] <flaccid> but i don't see the point
[09:08] <flaccid> like i said i have never 'NEEDED' to use aptitude
[09:08] <flaccid> and i'm a developer
[09:10] <icecruncher> flaccid: do you have any idea when feisty is official?
[09:10] <flaccid> no i don't sorry
[09:10] <flaccid> !feisty
[09:10] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:10] <icecruncher> ahh
[09:10] <flaccid> this month i guess
[09:11] <icecruncher> lol, I still have quite a few bugs on my verison
[09:11] <icecruncher> lol
[09:11] <Gigaamd> ok one more question.  If f**up accidently partition on linux, how do you restore it?
[09:11] <icecruncher> Gigaamd: how did you manage that?
[09:11] <aegray> I'm trying to install off of a live cd but X dies for some reason whenever it tries to start - is there some way to get a console?
[09:11] <icecruncher> !partition
[09:11] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[09:11] <Gigaamd> i played around the qtparted and really
[09:12] <Gigaamd> f uped!
[09:12] <flaccid> Gigaamd: restore?
[09:12] <flaccid> right
[09:12] <Gigaamd> or fix the partition so you computer can boot correctly
[09:12] <flaccid> you restore it by learning to be a sysadmin :)
[09:12] <flaccid> pastebin fdisk -l for me
[09:13] <icecruncher> "you restore it by learning to be a sysadmin :)" lol
[09:13] <Gigaamd> ok.  I cant get xchat to install.  i went into adept manager and click on request install and still wont let me
[09:14] <icecruncher> flaccid: do you by chance have any idea how to install python packages manually?
[09:14] <flaccid> !xchat
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xchat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <flaccid> icecruncher: which package specifically
[09:14] <flaccid> !find xchat
[09:14] <ubotu> Found: xchat-gnome, xchat-gnome-common, xchat, xchat-common, xchat-guile (and 2 others)
[09:15] <flaccid> !info xchat
[09:15] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.6-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 275 kB, installed size 760 kB
[09:15] <icecruncher> flaccid: kgmailnotify
[09:15] <flaccid> Gigaamd: enable universe
[09:15] <flaccid> icecruncher: huh
[09:15] <Gigaamd> how do i enable universe??
[09:15] <flaccid> !universe
[09:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:16] <icecruncher> flaccid: it came in a tar.gz file, unpacked it and they are all .py files
[09:19] <flaccid> icecruncher: so you basicallly don't know what you are doing?
[09:19] <icecruncher> lol yeah
[09:19] <cyt> Hi all, if I use 'aptitude dist-upgrade -d' to schedule upgrading. If I want to cancel the upgrade, how do I do? Just ctrl-c cannot help.
[09:20] <flaccid> icecruncher: what do you want to do, exactly
[09:20] <icecruncher> flaccid: use it, intergrate it in the menu
[09:20] <flaccid> did you rtfm?
[09:20] <bananamuffins> hi, can adept "force version" like synaptic does?
[09:21] <icecruncher> ?
[09:21] <flaccid> i don't even know what you d/l
[09:21] <flaccid> use the command perl to run a perl script...
[09:21] <icecruncher> flaccid: i have no idea what you mena wiht rtfm?
[09:21] <flaccid> man perl
[09:21] <icecruncher> k
[09:21] <flaccid> !rtfm
[09:21] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[09:21] <flaccid> true
[09:22] <flaccid> im a bad boy
[09:22] <icecruncher> lol
[09:22] <flaccid> it means read the documentation
[09:22] <flaccid> i don't even know what you d/l
[09:22] <fildo> ahah
[09:22] <icecruncher> ther is no doc lol, only liscence
[09:22] <flaccid> what is it
[09:22] <flaccid> heh
[09:22] <flaccid> a name would be helpful about now
[09:22] <icecruncher> called COPYING
[09:22] <icecruncher> lol
[09:23] <flaccid> thats a filename
[09:23] <flaccid> wtf did you download?
[09:23] <icecruncher> KGmailNotifier-0.2.4
[09:23] <flaccid> ok
[09:23] <icecruncher> from kde apps
[09:23] <flaccid> ok
[09:23] <flaccid> give me a link
[09:24] <flaccid> we do this together
[09:24] <flaccid> even thoug i'm not on kubuntu it sounds good
[09:24] <icecruncher> lol
[09:24] <bananamuffins_> i have installed ktorrent from source, now adept updater wants to downgrade it to the latest repository version, how do i stop it from nagging me please?
[09:24] <flaccid> bananamuffins: remove the former deb package
[09:25] <icecruncher> flaccid: you wanna pm?
[09:27] <flaccid> nope
[09:27] <bananamuffins> flaccid: thanks, remove it from /var/cache/apt/archives ?
[09:27] <flaccid> do it here so the chan can share
[09:27] <icecruncher> sure
[09:27] <flaccid> bananamuffins: no
[09:28] <flaccid> remove the package, bananamuffins
[09:28] <bananamuffins> sorry, i'm not understanding, remove the package using adept, then install from source?
[09:29] <flaccid> remove the package, thats it
[09:29] <flaccid> if there are conficts with locations you'll need to make install again from the source
[09:29] <bananamuffins> remove the package using adept?
[09:29] <flaccid> using anything
[09:29] <_spaz> laters guys
[09:29] <bananamuffins> ok, thanks
[09:29] <flaccid> np
[09:30] <bananamuffins> i did a 'purge' in adept and it killed ktorrent, now i'm installing from source because i could not find ktorrent after the purge
[09:31] <flaccid> thats right
[09:31] <flaccid> they share locations
[09:31] <bananamuffins> cool
[09:31] <flaccid> which is the problem
[09:31] <bananamuffins> ahh yup
[09:31] <flaccid> so its one or the other basically
[09:31] <bananamuffins> so adept should not bother me about it again eh?
[09:32] <flaccid> once the package is removed it wont want to update it..
[09:32] <flaccid> because its not installed
[09:32] <bananamuffins> according to adept eh? but we really know it's there!
[09:32] <flaccid> wtf
[09:32] <bananamuffins> hehe
[09:32] <flaccid> purge the package and goodbye
[09:32] <flaccid> it won't be there at all
[09:33] <bananamuffins> but we want ktorrent, but installed from source
[09:33] <flaccid> yes
[09:33] <flaccid> "remove the existing package FIRST, then make install from source ktorrent'
[09:33] <bananamuffins> ha! that's what we are doing (me and my wife fyi)
[09:33] <flaccid> ok
[09:34] <flaccid> its about sharing fs space
[09:43] <chuen> Hi. I've been trying to compile a program. At the end, I get the error:
[09:43] <chuen> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[09:43] <chuen> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[09:43] <chuen> Does anyone know what this indicates?
[09:43] <flaccid> whats the program
[09:43] <chuen> kink-0.2.1
[09:45] <flaccid> hmm
[09:46] <flaccid> you might need qt headers package
[09:46] <flaccid> did you read the doc on kink and its deps>
[09:46] <flaccid> what are they?
[09:47] <flaccid> try installing the package kde-devel
[09:47] <flaccid> chuen: that is most likely what you need
[09:48] <chuen> flaccid: I'll check. I'm pretty sure, I installed that the other day. Thanks.
[09:48] <flaccid> ok
[09:48] <flaccid> chuen: consult the kink doco. it should tell you what deps are needed
[09:48] <chuen> flaccid: I'll do that too ....
[09:49] <flaccid> ok
[09:53] <icecruncher> flaccid: how to start?
[09:53] <TiLK> Hi. I need some help with move to Kubuntu 6.10 from 6.06. Has somebody got a time?
[09:54] <flaccid> how to start what sorry
[09:54] <flaccid> !upgrade > TiLK
[09:54] <icecruncher> the perl stuff
[09:55] <flaccid> start what
[09:55] <Hirvinen> TiLK: The FAQ in the topic includes a link to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[09:55] <flaccid> do you know how to run a per script?
[09:55] <icecruncher> nope
[09:55] <icecruncher> lol
[09:55] <flaccid> omg
[09:55] <TiLK> Yes, I wanna help with this cause it doesnt work to me. I have tried the upgrade command but nothing happneds.
[09:55] <Jucato> !upgrade | TiLK
[09:55] <ubotu> TiLK: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:55] <flaccid> man perl
[09:56] <smile_> anyone here installed Beryl on dapper ?
[09:56] <flaccid> smile_: i wish
[09:56] <icecruncher> flaccid: hey, I'm fairly competent at c++
[09:56] <flaccid> icecruncher: then why is it a problem?
[09:56] <chuen> flaccid: kde-devel was need - thanks for that. However, no there are a few errors after running 'make' which I can in no way understand!
[09:56] <smile_> if i upgrade dapper to edgy how much time it takes ?
[09:56] <icecruncher> flaccid: lol never tried it
[09:57] <flaccid> chuen: pastebin them and provide URL
[09:57] <chuen> flaccid: That's kind. Thanks.
[09:57] <flaccid> perl myscript.pl
[09:58] <icecruncher> thanks. lol
[09:58] <flaccid> np
[09:58] <flaccid> try #perl
[09:59] <TiLK> My problem is that I use guide on wiki how to upgrade, I paste command gksu "update-manager -c"  to console but nothing is happending. Tried also sudo ... but it was same. Have I forgotten to set up something?
[09:59] <chuen> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14160/
[10:00] <flaccid> TiLK: thats a ubuntu thing, not kubuntu
[10:00] <flaccid> follow
[10:00] <flaccid> !upgrade
[10:00] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:00] <Jucato> TiLK: there
[10:00] <Jucato> ^^^^
[10:00] <Jucato> follow that one
[10:00] <flaccid> hi Jucato :)
[10:00] <Jucato> hi flaccid
[10:00] <flaccid> how are you mate
[10:00] <Jucato> hm... doing ok I guess :D
[10:01] <flaccid> chuen: i think only kink support is going to be able to help with that one
[10:01] <brzeszczot> hello
[10:02] <chuen> flaccid: OK. I appreciate you checking the code for me. Cheers.
[10:02] <flaccid> Jucato: cool br0. i'm like relaxing i guess
[10:02] <Jucato> heh :)
[10:03] <flaccid> it could be a mismatch with deps versions but kink needs to confirm
[10:03] <flaccid> wtf jucy
[10:04] <chuen> flaccid: This might have something to do with it: Fixes to allow kink to compile against the new API in libinklevel-0.6.6
[10:04] <TiLK> The link says how to upgrade using apt, but in official guide said its strongy not recommanded to use apt methode.
[10:04] <flaccid> chuen: no idea. seek help with kink
[10:05] <flaccid> TiLK: provide me with link to official guide
[10:05] <Jucato> TiLK: I think you misread. it says not to use Adept.
[10:05] <Jucato> you can't *not* use apt... it's the only way you can upgrade
[10:06] <TiLK> its strongy NOT recommanded to use apt methode.
[10:07] <TiLK> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Here is written, dont use apt-get, use gksu "update-manager -c" , but I write this to console and nothing happend.
[10:07] <Jucato> TiLK: which guide are you reading?
[10:07] <Jucato> TiLK: like we already said use the *other* guide
[10:08] <Jucato> update-manager is an Ubuntu app
[10:08] <TiLK> Yes, so thats why Im telling the other guide is about apt, and there is written dont use it. Oh, so doesnt Kubuntu support update-manager???
[10:09] <brzeszczot> i installed spell-pl-pl and it doesn't work :/
[10:09] <brzeszczot> help me
[10:09] <brzeszczot> pls
[10:09] <Jucato> TiLK: yes there is no update-manager on Kubuntu
[10:10] <TiLK> kkk, so I need to use apt anyway. Ok, so I go step by step with your guide. Thy
[10:10] <TiLK> x
[10:13] <khaije1> any fiesty early adopters? curious if fiesty is compelling yet, cuz i'm having a ball w/ edgy
[10:14] <icecruncher> yeah
[10:14] <Levo_75> Hai
[10:14] <icecruncher> khaije1: I'm using feisty for 3 days now
[10:15] <flaccid> khaije1: too many bugs in all of them if you ask me
[10:15] <khaije1> flaccid: icecruncher: is there anything that seems like it will be really exciting by release time?
[10:15] <icecruncher> haha, lot's of bugs
[10:16] <flaccid> always bugs
[10:16] <khaije1> it almost seems like ubuntu is starting to become a victim of it's own success :-)
[10:16] <flaccid> i don't use kubuntu myself
[10:16] <flaccid> its not stable enough imo
[10:16] <icecruncher> I prefer kde
[10:16] <flaccid> well kde is a DE not an OS/distro
[10:16] <Levo_75> I'm a first time iser of Kubunto (dapper drake)
[10:16] <Levo_75> I like it
[10:16] <flaccid> i like it too
[10:16] <khaije1> thats not really anything to get excited about though, is there any big cool changes like sysv init -> upstart in edgy ?
[10:17] <icecruncher> khaije1: The interface has improved quite a bit
[10:17] <khaije1> icecruncher: k, i'll check out the screenshots, do you mean just graphically or feel/interface also
[10:18] <icecruncher> as soon as you install you even get presented with a config wizard for ur dsktp, but no, dont get it jsut yet
[10:18] <icecruncher> both
[10:18] <khaije1> icecruncher: anything besides that? i dont think i'll be an early adopter, i've actually checked out the launchpad site for it periodicaly but haven't really seen anything that caught my eye so far, just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing anything
[10:20] <icecruncher> lol, i hear that quite a few people are yapping in the forums, but not reporting anything. Wireless has made a great improvement... Printing is supposed to be terrible (don't have a printer myself)
[10:21] <Linux_Galore> looks like the python updates for edgy just broke democracyplayer
[10:21] <flaccid> its all a development environment despite being prod if you ask me
[10:23] <khaije1> icecruncher: thats kinda what i was thinking, reading the manifesto for fiesty i seem to remember it was all about pushing the envelope, but edgy is such a good balance i can't imagine messing with it... at least not until kde4 is released to universe repos
[10:23] <Luke> can anyone help me with kubuntu
[10:24] <icecruncher> khaije1, ja i recomend waiting for k4, wish I had done that myself
[10:24] <icecruncher> Luke: help with what?
[10:24] <sonoftheclayr> Luke: you've come to the right place
[10:24] <Luke> after splash screen my monitor turns off
[10:24] <icecruncher> what version?
[10:24] <flaccid> edgy is full of bugs
[10:25] <Luke> 6.10 edgy
[10:25] <khaije1> icecruncher: thx for the insights, cheers
[10:25] <icecruncher> no prob
[10:25] <khaije1> flaccid: haha what are you talking about?
[10:26] <flaccid> !bugs
[10:26] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:26] <flaccid> that
[10:27] <khaije1> flaccid: was your point that there are some/any or that there is an inordinate amount...?
[10:27] <rigved> hi is it possible to share th internet connection from kubuntu to a windows xp machine
[10:27] <flaccid> that there is too many for a production release
[10:27] <flaccid> rigved: yes
[10:28] <rigved> hi flaccid.. can u pls tell me how
[10:28] <khaije1> flaccid: i'm not sure that edgy is considered production, perhaps you should try dapper, i was just curious because i've had a flawless go of it w/ edgy. what are you using it for?
[10:29] <icecruncher> khaije1: btw kde4 is coming october or so
[10:29] <flaccid> rigved: provide details/requirements
[10:29] <Luke> that bug page is too much to find what i want
[10:30] <flaccid> Luke: lol
[10:30] <Luke> i have already tried arklinux and had same prob
[10:30] <khaije1> icecruncher: ya i know, pretty exciting release, i've seen discussion that it'll be rolled into universe w/ reasonable haste. Luckily i'm in no hurry :-)
[10:30] <Luke> i was told it was to do with the refresh rates of my monitor and graphics card
[10:31] <icecruncher> lol
[10:31] <icecruncher> khaije1: ya I'm pretty exited too, goona be cool
[10:31] <flaccid> the unpredicatability of ubuntu joy
[10:31] <icecruncher> lol
[10:32] <flaccid> negative
[10:32] <flaccid> pc-bsd
[10:32] <Lynoure> Is there some trick to get landscape oriented pdfs to print non-huge and landscape oriented?
[10:32] <icecruncher> flaccid: why bsd?
[10:32] <Lynoure> Currently I only seem to get them huge and landscape, or just portrait.
[10:33] <flaccid> icecruncher: no bull.
[10:34] <icecruncher> flaccid: relly, can you give any pros and cons? (just wondering)
[10:34] <flaccid> pros: stability
[10:35] <flaccid> cons: dunno
[10:35] <icecruncher> lol
[10:39] <Linux_Galore> adding the democrcyplayer's own repo seems to have fixed it in edgy
[10:39] <icecruncher> flaccid: what bsd distro is the top one, in you r opinion?
[10:39] <flaccid> icecruncher: for desktop, pc-bsd, for server freebsd
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> PCBSD is very good
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> very easy to use
[10:40] <flaccid> FreeBSD
[10:40] <flaccid> hehe
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> aimed at the desktop space
[10:40] <Linux_Galore> people behind PCBSD actually build BSD servers
[10:42] <dwidmann> Okay, that was more than enough frustration for the day :\
[10:43] <flaccid> Linux_Galore: hopefully they build desktops
[10:44] <icecruncher> flaccid: freebsd has an alpha download, meaning? not released yet?
[10:44] <icecruncher> http://www.freebsd.org/where.html
[10:45] <dwidmann> icecruncher: alpha, as in, pre-beta
[10:45] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: well they took over PCBSD because their clients wanted a desktop version of FreeBSD thats simple to use
[10:45] <icecruncher> yeah, so it's not released yet, (6.2)
[10:45] <flaccid> alpha is an arch not a dev cycle
[10:45] <icecruncher> k
[10:46] <flaccid> its a processor!
[10:46] <Linux_Galore> PCBSD is FreeBSD with some hacks to make it better to install and use in the desktop space
[10:46] <dwidmann> Ahahaha, tha'ts true
[10:46] <flaccid> i wouldn't call them hacks
[10:46] <dwidmann> I'd forgotten that the alpha architecture existed :P
[10:50] <Luke> ever got kubuntu 6.1 working on a old windows 95 pc
[10:51] <icecruncher> what kind of desktop does bsd run (bsd?) (being stuopid and asking)
[10:52] <flaccid> kde
[10:52] <icecruncher> sweet
[10:52] <flaccid> you mean pcbsd i assume
[10:52] <icecruncher> yeah
[10:52] <flaccid> bsd is many OSs
[10:55] <AlCantara> after some time of inactivity (45 or 60 minutes?) kubuntu always logs the user out to kdm. where to deactivate this?
[10:58] <icecruncher> flaccid: k being realy stupid, can you back up stuff on partion the rezie it an still use it?
[10:58] <smile_> hi .. how can i make a scanned texte in PDF format ?
[10:58] <flaccid> yes
[10:59] <flaccid> if i understand your question
[10:59] <smile_> anyhelp plz ?
[10:59] <icecruncher> flaccid: believe me, I've never made a backup
[11:00] <flaccid> !backup
[11:00] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:00] <Blissex> smile_: please quote the Platinum Account number the one which entitles you to responses in less than a minute to hard to understand questions...
[11:01] <smile_> Blissex: what u mean ?
[11:01] <smile_> Blissex: what's Platinum Account ?
[11:01] <Blissex> smile_: well on IRC one is expected to write clear questions and wait 10-30 minutes for an answer, unless of course they have the Platinum Account :-).
[11:02] <spawn57> anyone having trouble with xine in feisty?
[11:02] <smile_> Blissex: how to do that ?
[11:02] <icecruncher> spawn57: no
[11:03] <spawn57> icecruncher: i'm only having trouble with vcds =\
[11:03] <icecruncher> spawn57: wierd
[11:03] <Blissex> smile_: well, you could start explaining what you mean with "scanned texte in PDF format". What is the input? What is the output?
[11:04] <spawn57> time to check settings I guess
[11:04] <smile_> Blissex: input : a text file in the scanner , output ; a PDF file
[11:04] <Blissex> smile_: a PDF file with images of the pages or text?
[11:05] <icecruncher> spawn57: did you download any restricted packages?
[11:05] <spawn57> icecruncher: probably ..yeah
[11:05] <icecruncher> check
[11:06] <smile_> Blissex: a DF file with the text i scanned ! understand friend ?
[11:06] <spawn57> um, how? only ones I recall are the modules
[11:06] <icecruncher> dunno
[11:06] <spawn57> hehe
[11:06] <wermer> hello!
[11:06] <spawn57> i think I'll try using xine from console, see if it throws and error
[11:07] <icecruncher> k
[11:07] <spawn57> xiTK received SIGSEGV signal, RIP.     ... lol that's all I got
[11:07] <smile_> Blissex: so ?!
[11:08] <Blissex> smile_: you are still expecting under 1 minute replies :-).
[11:08] <smile_> Blissex: bye .. and thank you
[11:09] <Blissex> smile_: however try using GOCR to something like OOo and then export the text as PDF.
[11:09] <smile_> Blissex: can i install GOCR with apt-get ?
[11:10] <Blissex> smile_: yes, and it also has some frontend, like 'gocr-gtk'.
[11:10] <smile_> Blissex: thx
[11:11] <icecruncher> flaccid: is it possible for me to install bsd on one partition, then share the home partition with kubunt?
[11:12] <fiery>  !
[11:12] <flaccid> yes it is
[11:13] <icecruncher> flaccid: what about all the config files, better to geet a new username?
[11:14] <flaccid> i would recommend dif home parts for dif os and then symlink sub dirs as required
[11:14] <icecruncher> k
[11:15] <flaccid> i have to go
[11:15] <flaccid> this is tooo boring
[11:16] <spawn57> icecruncher: whee works fine with mplayer
[11:17] <icecruncher> spawn57: sorry no idea
[11:17] <spawn57> no worries, I'll figure it out somehow haha
[11:20] <nodesert>  i m looking for a good c++ channel
[11:25] <twiztr> Whats the fastest a mainstream DVD burner goes? like, 8x is the standard, right?
[11:29] <AlCantara> mainstream?? there are several new with 16x support with the right discs, i read about the first 18x.
[11:29] <AlCantara> but the data-quality of discs burned with 8x or more is bad. i always write as slowly as possible
[11:31] <nodesert> i can not see ntfs partitions from linux
[11:32] <nodesert> and i dont know how to mount
[11:33] <AlCantara> nodesert: check if you have ntfs-3g installed.
[11:34] <AlCantara> nodesert: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/partitions-booting.html
[11:35] <robin__> hi
[11:36] <nodesert> AlCantara: yes i have ntfs-3g installed
[11:36] <root_> hallo
[11:37] <nodesert> i also tried fdisk -l on console but there was no output
[11:39] <robin_> [11:35]  <robin__> hi
[11:39] <robin_> [11:36]  <robin__> maybe someone can help me with a strange problem. I have a Ralink wifi card, and it connect tru WPA/TKIP,.. the connection is OK, because it can PING, and konversation works, BUT, konqueror and kopete doesnt' (!)
[11:39] <robin_> [11:36]  <robin__> they say "could not connect to host"
[11:42] <AlCantara> after some time of inactivity (45 or 60 minutes?) kubuntu always logs the user out to kdm. where to deactivate this?
[11:50] <Apollo^101> can any one help please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14170/
[11:53] <nodesert> i mount my ntfs partitions but i want them to mount automaticly at startup
[11:54] <nodesert> how can i do this?
[11:54] <smile_> Blissex: how can i run the GUI of GOCR ?
[11:55] <smile_> Blissex: i installed gocr and gocr-gtk
[11:55] <smile_> Blissex: but gocr-gtk in a commant not found in console ?
[11:57] <kumamoto> nodesert: add it to your /etc/fstab file
[11:57] <smile_> !gocr-gtk
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gocr-gtk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <smile_> !gocr | smile
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gocr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:00] <nodesert> kumamoto:just i will add them without sudo command?
[12:02] <Apollo^101> any one else please
[12:02] <Apollo^101> ?
[12:02] <Apollo^101> can any one help please? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14170/
[12:02] <barravince> hi all the 6.10 is edgy really?
[12:03] <Jucato> barravince: if you mean "edgy" as in unstable, no. if you mean "edgy" as the condename for 6.10 (Edgy Eft), then yes
[12:03] <barravince> ok thanks
[12:05] <Apollo^101> i wonder why reconstructor doesnt runs in kubuntu. i installed every dependency inculide ;glade;      still it says no glade module found?
[12:06] <kumamoto> nodesert: must use sudo
[12:07] <nodesert> ok thanks
[12:12] <the-killer> Hello World
[12:13] <Photon> hello world...:P lol
[12:17] <ataq> Yeeeeeurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:18] <barravince> sorry is there a cd of kubuntu that allows to install without the kde start?
[12:18] <barravince> like the versione 6.04?
[12:18] <barravince> versione = version
[12:18] <ataq> you mean during the installation?
[12:19] <barravince> in 6.04 the installer was at boot
[12:19] <barravince> in 6.10
[12:19] <barravince> the installer is in the live cd
[12:19] <barravince> i want to install ubuntu like opensuse debian ecc ecc
[12:19] <ataq> ya, download the Kubuntu Alternative CD. it allows to install from text based as opposed to Live CD
[12:20] <ataq> Handy for slower machines
[12:20] <barravince> infact is my case
[12:20] <barravince> thanks :-) ataq
[12:20] <ataq> not a bother! glad to help out!
[12:21] <barravince> sorry one other in the alternative is there all the software that is included in the live-cd
[12:21] <barravince> ?
[12:22] <ataq> Ya man, its exactly the same. the only difference is that the installer is text in it. Software versions and software packages are still the way they are in the normal 6.10
[12:22] <barravince> o thanks another time :-)
[12:46] <Photon> hi
[12:46] <Photon> hello world
[12:47] <ataq> well well
[12:49] <icecruncher> kubuntu doesn't recognize my usb drive, what should I do?
[12:53] <kerric> hi there
[12:53] <kerric> i have a small problem with mounting scsi under kubuntu
[12:53] <kerric> what i mean
[12:54] <kerric> i have a computer where were running suse on scsi disc
[12:54] <kerric> and i want to look what this computer have inside
[12:54] <kerric> so is there any way to look in files from kubuntu live ?
[12:58] <kumamoto> kerric: is it the live cd u r talking about
[01:01] <blackdevil> ciao a tutti
[01:01] <barravince> blackdevil questo  solo un canale inglese
[01:01] <barravince> understand?
[01:02] <blackdevil> ok
[01:03] <apokryphos> blackdevil: Portuguese?
[01:03] <blackdevil> no, i'm italian and u?
[01:03] <apokryphos> !it
[01:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:03] <barravince> apokryphos my same nation italian :-)
[01:03] <apokryphos> =)
[01:03] <blackdevil> barravince are u a programmer?
[01:04] <blackdevil> is there a html programmer here?
[01:04] <barravince> blackdevil: i want to became it, for now i do only pascal
[01:05] <icecruncher> kubuntu won't recognize my usb drive (mouse works) , can anyone help?
[01:05] <blackdevil> are u using a distro linux? with dos emu to write in pascal?
[01:06] <kerric> kumamoto yes
[01:06] <kerric> i see now (sudo fdiks -l)
[01:06] <barravince> blackdevil in linux there are fpc
[01:06] <icecruncher> !usb >icecruncher
[01:06] <kerric> but i don't know where to mount it
[01:06] <kerric> on desktop ?
[01:06] <blackdevil> what? fpc?
[01:07] <blackdevil> what is fpc?
[01:07] <barravince> one moment
[01:09] <alexicon> anyone here use gstreamer?
[01:10] <barravince> blackdevil fpc is the free pascal compiler
[01:10] <barravince> is completely compatible with bordland pascal
[01:10] <blackdevil> with out using a dos emu?
[01:10] <barravince> and is more faster, but have not a GUI
[01:10] <barravince> no is natively compiled for linux
[01:10] <alexicon> im wondering if i can install and use gstreamer 0.8 while 0.10 is already installed
[01:11] <barravince> look there : http://www.freepascal.org/
[01:11] <Photon> an offtopic question
[01:11] <Photon> how many different colors are there?
[01:11] <blackdevil> barravince can u give me the link to download fpc? i'v just search with adept but there  isn't
[01:12] <barravince> i've just linked up
[01:13] <barravince> sorry I've a problem how i can set the monitor refresh at 45? in the kde control center the minium is 59 Hz and my monitor is not good at these resolution
[01:16] <blackdevil> barravince, i've got a problem i can't register my nick. ehy?
[01:16] <blackdevil> why?
[01:16] <barravince> where in freenode?
[01:17] <Jucato> !register | blackdevil
[01:17] <ubotu> blackdevil: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:17] <blackdevil> here in konversarion, i put the command  /nick nick
[01:17] <blackdevil> !register
[01:18] <alexicon> gstreamer anyone? apt doesnt suggest that it wants to remove 0.10 if i install 0.8 so think it might be ok
[01:20] <Jucato> blackdevil: that's the command to change nicks. the command to register is: /msg nickserv register <password>
[01:21] <blackdevil> but my nick is already registred,
[01:21] <blackdevil> how can i change my nick?
[01:21] <Jucato> !away > dhq
[01:21] <Jucato> blackdevil: /nick <new_nick>
[01:21] <blackdevil> [13:21]  [438]  {asd} #ubuntu-it Cannot send to channel so cannot change nicks
[01:22] <blackdevil> saw?
[01:22] <Jucato> blackdevil: ah you have to leave that channel first
[01:22] <Jucato> some channels do not allow you to change nicks
[01:22] <{Black_Devil}> yeah!
[01:23] <{Black_Devil}> ooooooooookkkkkk! i'v registred my nick
[01:26] <anees> hi
[01:26] <anees> anyone help me to install kxdocker
[01:27] <alexicon> whats the problem with it anees
[01:27] <anees> anyone help me how to install kxdocker
[01:27] <anees> i want to install kxdocker
[01:27] <orange1> Jucato: how do i find out which location each partition has. like (hd#,#)
[01:27] <alexicon> its on apt
[01:27] <alexicon> sudo apt-get install kxdocker
[01:28] <anees> it's a MAC like interface
[01:28] <Jucato> !info kxdocker
[01:28] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[01:28] <Jucato> anees: ^^^^ it's in the repositories, you can install it using apt-get or Adept
[01:28] <anees> i m trying but unable to download it
[01:29] <Jucato> orange1: hm... I'm not exactly sure I understand what you're asking
[01:29] <alexicon> sudo apt-get install kxdocker
[01:29] <anees> ok...let me try
[01:29] <alexicon> that download and installs it aness
[01:30] <orange1> Jucato: for example my root install is @ (hd0,4)    -- i need to find out where my xp install is at so i can setup a manual entry for xp on grub-- so i can see xp on grub's bootlist on startup
[01:31] <anees> i am trying to change the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <anees> but unable to save it
[01:31] <anees> anyone help me how to save /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:31] <alexicon> probably arent root anees
[01:31] <alexicon> how did you open the file
[01:31] <anees> vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <alexicon> do sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:32] <Jucato> orange1: hm...
[01:32] <anees> done thanx man
[01:32] <cyt> Hi all, do you know how to configure the system tray like this: http://www.cs.ccu.edu.tw:8080/~cyt93/tmp/SystemTray.png
[01:33] <alexicon> np anees
[01:33] <Jucato> orange1: "sudo fdisk -l" will list the available partitions. it will most probably be the one with the NTFS line
[01:33] <cyt> Default layout in Beta eat too much spaces in panel.
[01:33] <Jucato> orange1: then you just have to "convert" from hdxx notation to hdx,x notation
[01:34] <Jucato> cyt: set the Panel size to either Large or Custom size of 48
[01:35] <orange1> Jucato:  k gonna try it now
[01:36] <cyt> Jucato: Thx, I got it ;)
[01:38] <unix_infidel> you guys are killing me with this release date :P
[01:39] <mardi> hi, i've just installed Kubuntu, when i try to add a user i got to Kcontrol, click System Admin> User Management > Adminstrator button and it hangs there, doing nothing
[01:39] <_Photon_> hello world
[01:39] <_Photon_> when will kubuntu 7.04 be released?
[01:39] <hyper_ch> hello _Photon_
[01:40] <hyper_ch> april 17 I think
[01:40] <hyper_ch> !release
[01:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[01:40] <_Photon_> 17...
[01:44] <Man30Sexy> anybody know how to connect to mirc?
[01:44] <Jucato> O.o
[01:47] <velle> Can somebody help me make my audio work? I have followed this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449, but I am not sure which driver is the right one for my comp, I need a little help for that.
[01:47] <Kristophe> hi everybody! I want to block direct internet acces from konqui/firefow, and force my users to go through dans/squid... But my users can change the settings in firefox (proxy->localhost:8080) and set 'direct connection'. Do you have any idea?
[01:52] <firsm> Kristophe: make your proxies transparent using squid and block every outgoing connections except those on port 80
[01:52] <firsm> Kristophe: using iptables I mean
[01:53] <Kristophe> firsm, but my proxy and my users are the same machine, do you think it's possible?
[01:54] <firsm> Kristophe: you, you basically transparently redirect all outgoing connections to port 80 through localhost:8080 and block everything else
[01:55] <firsm> Kristophe: there's always a chance that your users use a proxy server on the internet and bypass your proxy tho
[01:56] <Kristophe> firsm, ok, I'll try that (but squid requests will also be redirected to 8080 and fall in a closed loop?)
[01:57] <firsm> Kristophe: ah.. hmm that's true
[01:57] <firsm> Kristophe: yeah looks like proxy and users on the same machine will be an issue :/
[01:59] <firsm> unfortunately you can't set application specific rules on linux as far as I know
[01:59] <icecruncher> kubuntu is not recognizing my usb stick, can anyone help?
[02:00] <Kristophe> firsm :-( I fear I have to re-configure my old computer into a proxy... Oh, someone told me about L7 filtering that may do the job... I'm currently looking docs.. Thanks anyway firsm!
[02:00] <firsm> Kristophe: Hmm, L7 filtering is basically used to block peer-2-peer protocols...
[02:01] <icecruncher> Kristophe: try Dansguardian if you want filtering
[02:01] <firsm> don't think the filter itself is a problem for him
[02:01] <icecruncher> true
[02:01] <Kristophe> icecruncher, that's what I have : dans->squid->internet, but I want to force my users to go into that chain...
[02:02] <firsm> Kristophe: if you're comfortable with the terminal I recommend shorewall for transparent proxying on your dedicated proxy server.
[02:02] <icecruncher> force with firefox?
[02:02] <icecruncher> or total force
[02:02] <Kristophe> icecruncher, any browser firefox, konqueror... But if you know a way to force it only for firefox, I can allow acces only to firefox :-)
[02:03] <icecruncher> yeah firefox is easy, let me look it up real quik
[02:04] <Kristophe> firsm, I'll try shorewall, you're right it seems to be a good product
[02:04] <icecruncher> Kristophe: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207008
[02:04] <firsm> Kristophe: If that's just for your kids maybe there's some kind of firefox extension
[02:05] <icecruncher> firsm: there is a firefox extension, but total is better
[02:05] <firsm> icecruncher: hmm yeah, true
[02:05] <icecruncher> Kristophe:
[02:05] <icecruncher> lockPref("network.proxy.http", "127.0.0.1");
[02:05] <icecruncher>  lockPref("network.proxy.http_port", 8080);
[02:05] <icecruncher>  lockPref("network.proxy.type", 1);
[02:05] <icecruncher>  lockPref("network.proxy.no_proxies_on", "localhost, 127.0.0.1");
[02:06] <Kristophe> icecruncher, great! That'll do the trick waiting for my proxy computer to be set up! Thanks
[02:06] <_Photon_> i have a problem with kubuntu 7.04 beta
[02:06] <icecruncher> Kristophe: paste that into this file by  using this sudo gedit /usr/lib/firefox/firefox.cfg
[02:06] <icecruncher> _Photon_: who doesn't
[02:06] <icecruncher> lol
[02:06] <_Photon_> i have an externel harddisk when i plug it in using usb it doesnt show up the folders
[02:06] <firsm> icecruncher: I don't have a problem with it. :)
[02:06] <_Photon_> icecruncher: ;p;
[02:07] <Kristophe> icecruncher, I prefer vi, is it ok? :-)
[02:07] <icecruncher> _Photon_: dude, it's not recognizing my usb drive either
[02:07] <_Photon_> also the same with my flash memory
[02:07] <icecruncher> Kristophe: that's fine
[02:07] <Kristophe> :-D
[02:07] <_Photon_> it works in kubuntu 6.10 but not in 7.04
[02:07] <icecruncher> _Photon_: score someone with the sam eproblem
[02:07] <icecruncher> yeah!
[02:07] <icecruncher> lol
[02:07] <firsm> _Photon_: try "dmesg" and check what device it has settled down on and mount it manually
[02:07] <_Photon_> loool
[02:08] <_Photon_> when i plug it in, it shows what options i want, when i click open in window, it doesnt open
[02:08] <_Photon_> even when..
[02:09] <_Photon_> i go to media folder
[02:09] <_Photon_> its not there
[02:09] <icecruncher> _Photon_: Here it doesn't notice it at all
[02:09] <_Photon_> icecruncher: looool
[02:09] <firsm> _Photon_: open your terminal and type "dmesg"
[02:09] <_Photon_> in windows, it works perfectly
[02:09] <icecruncher> lool
[02:10] <_Photon_> firsm: ok then
[02:10] <icecruncher> firsm: it's recognizing sdb (the usb)
[02:11] <firsm> _Photon_: then type: modprobe vfat; mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -t vfat
[02:11] <firsm> or whatever the device node for that device is (find out with dmesg)
[02:11] <_Photon_> what will that do?
[02:12] <_Photon_> i have important files inside the HD
[02:12] <firsm> _Photon_: it'll load the vfat kernel module (I assume you formated your usb disk under windows) and mount it to /media/disk
[02:12] <icecruncher> firsm: i get errors for modprobe
[02:12] <_Photon_> its in NTFS
[02:12] <firsm> oh, ntfs on linux is still experimental, write support isn't exactly supported
[02:12] <icecruncher> sorry it has to be sudo
[02:13] <_Photon_> icecruncher: duh
[02:13] <_Photon_> lol :P
[02:13] <icecruncher> lol
[02:13] <ypsila> moin
[02:13] <firsm> in that case do: modprobe ntfs; mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk -t ntfs -o ro
[02:13] <_Photon_> ill just copypaste?
[02:13] <firsm> yeah, as root (put sudo in the front)
[02:14] <_Photon_> copypaste nothing to change, only add sudo ?
[02:14] <icecruncher> firsm: not working
[02:14] <icecruncher> there is nothing at mnt
[02:15] <firsm> sorry, /media/disk it is on ubuntu
[02:15] <icecruncher> firsm: it should be universal
[02:15] <firsm> icecruncher: just a matter of preference I guess
[02:15] <icecruncher> lol
[02:15] <icecruncher> no, i mean it's the same
[02:16] <icecruncher> just that there s nothing there
[02:16] <firsm> yeah, the directory just has to exist
[02:16] <_Photon_> firsm: now what should i copypaste in terminal? am using kubuntu
[02:16] <icecruncher> part of the filestruct
[02:16] <firsm> _Photon_: sudo modprobe ntfs && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -t ntfs -o ro
[02:17] <_Photon_> mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[02:17] <firsm> _Photon_: then do mkdir -p /media/disk before issuing that command
[02:17] <icecruncher> mount: mount point /media/disk does not exist
[02:17] <icecruncher> lol
[02:17] <_Photon_> just tell me step by step
[02:17] <_Photon_> icecruncher: lol
[02:18] <firsm> _Photon_: sudo mkdir -p /media/disk && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/disk -t ntfs -o ro
[02:18] <icecruncher> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[02:18] <_Photon_> step by step: example 1.do that and that 2.do that and that 3.4.5.ecrt..
[02:18] <_Photon_> ect*
[02:18] <ypsila> .oO
[02:18] <_Photon_> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[02:18] <firsm> Well as I said check with dmesg what device node your device uses...
[02:18] <_Photon_> looool
[02:18] <_Photon_> nothing exists loool
[02:19] <icecruncher> rotfl
[02:19] <_Photon_> it worked in 6.10
[02:19] <_Photon_> why not in 7.04???!?!?!?!
[02:19] <firsm> maybe you just didn't load some modules...
[02:20] <icecruncher> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[02:20] <icecruncher>        missing codepage or other error
[02:20] <icecruncher>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:20] <icecruncher>        dmesg | tail  or so
[02:20] <_Photon_> how can i load them
[02:20] <_Photon_> icecruncher: loool
[02:20] <firsm> sdb is your entire disk, you can't mount that, /dev/sdb1 for example is the first partition
[02:20] <icecruncher> yeah, not found
[02:20] <_Photon_> lloool
[02:20] <ypsila> pruhust
[02:21] <_Photon_> linux will never be stable and easy...:P
[02:21] <firsm> Yeah maybe you should go back to windows
[02:21] <_Photon_> loool :P
[02:21] <ypsila> _Photon_: it is stable and easy, but playing around with betas..............
[02:21] <firsm> [57399.004596]  sdc: assuming drive cache: write through
[02:21] <firsm> [57399.004599]   sdc: sdc1 sdc2 < sdc5 >
[02:21] <_Photon_> lol i kno...
[02:21] <firsm> Do you get something like that when you type "dmesg"?
[02:21] <ypsila> should be done by those who know what they are doing
[02:22] <icecruncher> yeah, i'll paste it
[02:22] <_Photon_> the only problem now with linux is Wireless drivers support
[02:22] <sonoftheclayr> ypsila: i don't think most of us know what we're doing
[02:22] <_Photon_> sonoftheclayr: lol
[02:23] <firsm> sonoftheclayr: join #suse, then you know a place like that. :P
[02:23] <ypsila> sonoftheclayr: :-D
[02:23] <_Photon_> XD
[02:23] <icecruncher> lol
[02:24] <icecruncher> how the heck do you access https://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:24] <ypsila> .oO susy
[02:24] <_Photon_> lol
[02:24] <mrigns> !ping
[02:24] <ubotu> pong
[02:24] <_Photon_> !ping
[02:25] <_Photon_> icecruncher: by accessing it :P lol
[02:25] <{Black_Devil}> !ping
[02:25] <ubotu> pong
[02:25] <_Photon_> !ping
[02:25] <LeeJunFan> Destination host unreachable
[02:25] <firsm> icecruncher: use rafb.net/paste. :p
[02:25] <_Photon_> lol
[02:26] <icecruncher> k
[02:26] <mrigns> !abuse | _Photon_
[02:26] <ubotu> _Photon_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:26] <meh> !nvidia
[02:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <meh> do i need the binary driver? i just want to run beryl
[02:26] <_Photon_> mrigns: ??
[02:27] <sonoftheclayr> abysinb the poor bot like that, you'll tire it out
[02:27] <mrigns> _Photon_: i thought ubot would say something about abusing it
[02:27] <_Photon_> loooool
[02:27] <_Photon_> wtf
[02:27] <ypsila> nvidia
[02:27] <firsm> meh: Yes you do.
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> that would be !botabuse
[02:28] <meh> firsm: cheers
[02:28] <firsm> Btw. I found the KDE transluency effects to be a good and stable alternative to beryl. :)
[02:28] <icecruncher> firsm: http://rafb.net/p/Z9PRDr12.html
[02:28] <LeeJunFan> firsm: until they get wobbly windows and the cube they are boring :)
[02:28] <firsm> LeeJunFan: ewww, wobbly windows! :)
[02:28] <ypsila> firsm: are you german?
[02:28] <firsm> ypsila: yeah, why?
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> Bill Cosby would love beryl - windows like Jello
[02:29] <meh> the last time i installed binary drives, i lost my hyper threading :\
[02:29] <meh> installed some strange kernel
[02:29] <ypsila> firsm: kicher, come to #kubuntu-de same procedere as in here ;-)
[02:29] <Kristophe> icecruncher, firsm, fyi, it's possible to block proxy settings for konqueror too, they are located in ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc, turning it into a read only file do the trick :-)
[02:30] <icecruncher> ahh
[02:30] <firsm> icecruncher: hmm, [15878.400000]  scsi 5:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device, yeah that won't work
[02:30] <icecruncher> frism: line?
[02:31] <firsm> icecruncher: your dmesg is full of it. :)
[02:31] <icecruncher> lol, i know, is it normal?
[02:31] <firsm> icecruncher: No, do you have any /dev/sdbX device nodes at all? (like /dev/sdb1)
[02:32] <icecruncher> firsm: course I do
[02:33] <icecruncher> firsm: sorry, just double checked
[02:33] <icecruncher> no
[02:33] <firsm> icecruncher: yeah I think it could be either a faulty device or a broken kernel module
[02:33] <icecruncher> device works
[02:33] <icecruncher> must be kernel
[02:34] <icecruncher> firsm: I've tried it with other usb drives before
[02:34] <firsm> icecruncher: always the same?
[02:34] <icecruncher> yeah
[02:35] <icecruncher> where is the boot log located? i get a wierd message at boot time
[02:35] <firsm> Uhm, dmesg > boot.msg then it is in in boot.msg. :)
[02:36] <icecruncher> cant acess it
[02:36] <firsm> There's an option in the kernel, something like "Probe all LUNs on SCSI devices", if turned off some of my usb storage devices don't work either, dunno if that is on by default in the feisty ubuntu kernel
[02:37] <icecruncher> hmm
[02:37] <firsm> icecruncher: what do you  mean can't access it? try "dmesg | more"
[02:38] <icecruncher> k
[02:39] <icecruncher> dmesg > boot.msg
[02:39] <icecruncher> sorry
[02:39] <icecruncher> end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 2014976
[02:39] <icecruncher> [15878.044000]  Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 2014976
[02:40] <firsm> yeah input/output error, so either a faulty device or maybe there's really something wrong with the kernel. Did it work on edgy for you too?
[02:40] <icecruncher> didn't try lol
[02:40] <icecruncher> suse it woked fine
[02:41] <ypsila> icecruncher: what du you mean, didnt try? you started right with a beta?
[02:41] <firsm> hehe yeah I guess it's the kernel then
[02:41] <icecruncher> no, i had edgy for 3 days
[02:41] <firsm> ypsila: when I switched to ubuntu I started right with beta too because I wanted kvm. :P
[02:42] <ypsila> firsm: which beta was that?
[02:42] <icecruncher> but then i did not use it then
[02:42] <firsm> ypsila: feisty, but granted I've been on linux for years
[02:42] <ypsila> firsm: t h a t   a  difference!
[02:43] <icecruncher> lol
[02:43] <firsm> dunno just thought... since feisty will be released too I don't have to download as much. :P
[02:43] <firsm> s/too/soon
[02:43] <ypsila> hmm
[02:45] <cyrano_> hi people
[02:45] <cyrano_> someboy has problems with thunderbirds an gmail??
[02:46] <cyrano_> it says to me "can't connect to pop.gmail.com ... but two days ago it worked fine
[02:46] <padavoine> hi, i'm looking for how to install a theme in kubuntu. there's no install button... ^^ so should i just download a theme and compile it (./configure, make, make install) ?
[02:46] <firsm> uh, beryl and compiz reunite
[02:46] <cyrano_> and i haven't changed anything in config
[02:46] <icecruncher> firsm: it'll be april 28  or so
[02:46] <firsm> cyrano_: the gmail pop3d is down quite frequently
[02:46] <padavoine> cyrano_: is gmail configured to let you access your mail trough pop ?
[02:47] <icecruncher> padavoine: change that under settings in gmail
[02:47] <padavoine> icecruncher: i don't need help with gmail, cyrano does
[02:47] <icecruncher> sorry
[02:47] <padavoine> nbp
[02:47] <padavoine> *npb
[02:48] <padavoine> i am looking for how to install atheme though
[02:48] <padavoine> in kubuntu
[02:48] <icecruncher> a theme
[02:48] <padavoine> yeah
[02:48] <padavoine> to chagne the look
[02:48] <icecruncher> mein menu > system setting >
[02:48] <padavoine> i know
[02:48] <padavoine> but then in appearacne there's no install button :S
[02:48] <icecruncher> apperance, no?
[02:48] <icecruncher> lol
[02:48] <icecruncher> padavoine: you in feisty?
[02:49] <padavoine> nope edgy
[02:49] <padavoine> can you just compile themes from source
[02:49] <icecruncher> dunno
[02:49] <padavoine> they come in an archive
[02:49] <padavoine> and there's a Makefile
[02:49] <padavoine> but if you run ./configure, it says no such file... :(
[02:49] <icecruncher> hmm
[02:50] <firsm> padavoine: how about just "make"?
[02:50] <padavoine> haven't tried that
[02:51] <padavoine> but i'm not on kubuntu right now, actually it's for my father... :D
[02:51] <Jucato> padavoine: the ./configure script is the one creates the Makefile file
[02:51] <padavoine> jucato: i know, but the INSTALL instructions of the theme say run ./configure
[02:51] <padavoine> but thanks guys, I'll try just make
[02:51] <Jucato> padavoine: are you running it inside the directory where the configure script is located?
[02:52] <padavoine> Jucato: yeah
[02:52] <icecruncher> it migh tbe here /usr/share/applications/kde/kdmtheme.desktop, where you place it
[02:52] <firsm> padavoine: is there a configure.ac or configure.in?
[02:52] <tuco_> Hello all I need some help with the installation of Call of Duty please?
[02:52] <Jucato> padavoine: hm... did you check if there's a configure script at all?
[02:52] <padavoine> firsm: nope
[02:52] <Jucato> "configure" would be the file name
[02:52] <padavoine> Jucato: yeah there isn't thatt's the problem
[02:52] <Jucato> padavoine: what app is this? and where did you get the source code?
[02:52] <padavoine> firsm: but i think just "make" will work actualyl
[02:53] <padavoine> it's a kde theme
[02:53] <Jucato> icecruncher: what's that for?
[02:53] <padavoine> anyway i need to go
[02:53] <Jucato> hm...
[02:53] <icecruncher> placing the file
[02:53] <Jucato> padavoine's problem?
[02:53] <icecruncher> ja
[02:54] <Jucato> ah. if it's a widget style, it needs to be compiled
[02:54] <tuco_> Please help with my Call of Duty install problem!
[02:54] <Jucato> and I doubt that it will compile without ./configure and just "make"
[02:54] <firsm> tuco_: how about just asking your question?
[02:54] <tuco_> Because I am polite I ask to ask first :-)
[02:55] <ypsila> tuco_: that is not necessary in here
[02:55] <meh> is there any tools i can use to test the performance of my raid / drives ?
[02:55] <tuco_> Ok here goes: I have Wine installed and heard you can run Cod with it, but I don't know how and where to start
[02:55] <firsm> meh: hdparm -tT /dev/md...
[02:55] <ypsila> !wine
[02:55] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:55] <tuco_> I have the original CD of course.
[02:55] <meh> firsm: hdparm, nice thanks
[02:59] <ronkad> hi. can any one help me? during instalation of kubuntu 6.06 in qtparted I get error: "Critical error during ped_disk_new" (I have winxp on that disk) however gparted is able to read all partitions at drive
[02:59] <meh> 6 x ata100 drives
[03:00] <meh> shouldnt i be getting 100MB/sec at minimum?
[03:00] <firsm> meh: What kind of raid array is it?
[03:00] <tuco_> I am lost now sorry!
[03:00] <firsm>  Timing cached reads:   2738 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1369.16 MB/sec
[03:00] <firsm>  Timing buffered disk reads:  252 MB in  3.02 seconds =  83.44 MB/sec
[03:00] <firsm> SATA-300 that is
[03:01] <tuco_> I have the disc in the drive, but not sure about what to type in the terminal!
[03:01] <meh> firsm: its a raid5 on 6 x 40gb disks
[03:01] <meh> firsm: ok so my raid5 is 1/2 the speed of your sata-300
[03:01] <meh> well a little bit quicker than 1/2
[03:02] <firsm> meh: if those are ide disks try "hdparm -i /dev/sda" and check if udma is activated
[03:02] <meh> oh right
[03:02] <firsm> uhh, it isn't even activated here. :P
[03:03] <meh> firstm /dev/hda you mean?
[03:03] <icecruncher> firsm: your usb is it connected to a hub?
[03:03] <firsm> icecruncher: no
[03:03] <icecruncher> k
[03:04] <meh> firsm: udma5 currently active
[03:05] <firsm> meh: Then you should be all set
[03:05] <meh> for all 6 drives
[03:06] <tuco_> Guys apparently I need a Loki installer, what is the difference between this and Wine?
[03:06] <meh> yeah ok i guess thats not bad.
[03:07] <meh> it would be nice to see what speeds a normal non raid ata100 drive spits back. I should have run the test before i set up the raid
[03:07] <firsm> meh: ohh, if you run your tests on your single drives like /dev/sda THAT should measure the performance of a single drive
[03:10] <icecruncher> does anybody use flex 2 exp ??
[03:12] <meh> firsm: ill try that now
[03:15] <meh> cached reads are slower on a raid, but overall quicker by about 25MB/sec
[03:15] <meh> er 20MB/sec
[03:15] <meh> thought it would be quicker than that :/
[03:16] <meh> firsm: thanks for your help :)
[03:16] <meh> bbl
[03:17] <firsm> meh: welcome.
[03:17] <TiLK> Hello. I have been here asking for help with upgrade from Kubuntu 6.06 to 6.10 and its done now. So thx. But other problem appeared now. I wanted to install KDE 3.5.6. so I singed off from  and tried to sing in from command line, but when I tipe ALT+N to do it, I see only the cursor blinking for a while and than the sing up dialogue to KDE comes again. Wheres the problem?
[03:22] <icecruncher> TiLK: try F4
[03:22] <icecruncher> or something like that
[03:22] <wsjunior> what do i need to install to make "preview audio files" to work in konqueror?
[03:22] <wsjunior> i place the cursor over the song but i cant hear anything
[03:30] <phyerboss> hey, is there anyone here that knows how i can get my adept manager to stop giving me this blasted "database in use by another adept app" nonsense?
[03:30] <phyerboss> its been like this for 2 days now
[03:31] <phyerboss> and i was thinking instead of a workaround is'nt there an absolute fix?
[03:31] <phyerboss> it seems to keep locking itself up everytime a get the warning icon about new updates
[03:31] <phyerboss> and it wont let me kill any of the adept processes that are running
[03:32] <TiLK> Hi, Im back. Should F4 do something? Cause it hasnt any effect when I tried it
[03:33] <icecruncher> what's the site for reporting bugs again?
[03:34] <ypsila> !launchpad
[03:34] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[03:34] <icecruncher> ahh
[03:34] <ypsila> phyerboss: you cannot kill any?
[03:34] <icecruncher> lol
[03:35] <TiLK> So I still cant switch to command like to install new KDE. When I finish sesion and wanna get to command like with ALT+N, it doesnt work and I see only blicking cursor
[03:36] <phyerboss> none of them
[03:36] <ypsila> phyerboss: how did you try it?
[03:36] <phyerboss> it keeps telling me i dont have the permissions
[03:37] <phyerboss> Ksysguard
[03:37] <ypsila> phyerboss: then you are not root
[03:39] <phyerboss> well, in the terminal i try to su to root but when I type in my password(which is the ONLY one I ever set on here*) its keeps telling me authentication failure
[03:39] <ypsila> phyerboss: try the same with sudo
[03:40] <phyerboss> what is sudo, btw?
[03:40] <TiLK> Anyway is if safety to istall new KDE version from old KDE?
[03:40] <TiLK> if=it
[03:40] <ypsila> phyerboss: to change to root rights in terminal, just make "sudo" before the command itself
[03:41] <ypsila> !sudo
[03:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:44] <phyerboss> ok, what command would i need to kill these adept processes?...also, i noticed synaptic in the adept listing. is it safe to have both incase this mess ever happens again or is there a possible fix around the corner for it?
[03:44] <phyerboss> sorry its alot of questions at once^^
[03:44] <ypsila> edgy?
[03:44] <phyerboss> but i am new and STILL trying to grasp this
[03:44] <phyerboss> yes
[03:44] <ypsila> ok
[03:44] <ypsila> moment
[03:45] <phyerboss> ok
[03:45] <danny500> Hi
[03:45] <ypsila> phyerboss: are you in terminal now or gui?
[03:45] <danny500> does anyone know how I can make a VCD the bin-cue way?
[03:45] <phyerboss> konsole
[03:45] <danny500> using K3B
[03:46] <ypsila> phyerboss: for a beginner I think gui is more transparent, so close konsole and press strg + esc
[03:46] <phyerboss> strg?
[03:47] <phyerboss> the letters?
[03:47] <phyerboss> or an actual button?
[03:47] <ypsila> the key on the left side
[03:47] <ypsila> on you keyboard!
[03:47] <danny500> "the key on the left sid" a ketboard ha tons of keys on the left side lol
[03:48] <phyerboss> exactly...I dont have an strg key
[03:48] <phyerboss> unless you mean shift
[03:48] <ypsila> danny500: but only one "strg"
[03:48] <danny500> you mean the shift key?
[03:48] <thunder> maybe "ctrl"?
[03:48] <danny500> whats a strg key?
[03:48] <ypsila> phyerboss: ctrl?
[03:48] <phyerboss> yeah, I got that one
[03:48] <danny500> are you using a linux or mac keyboard?
[03:48] <ypsila> danny500: the same as ctrl, I forgot having a german keyboard
[03:49] <phyerboss> uh, windows keyboard
[03:49] <ypsila> phyerboss: ok press ctrl + esc
[03:49] <danny500> oh ok then that makes sense lol
[03:49] <phyerboss> yeah, I was wondering what was the deal
[03:49] <danny500> :D
[03:49] <danny500> hey people make mistakes
[03:49] <danny500> it's all good
[03:49] <phyerboss> nah, im not mad or anything^^...im glad for the help
[03:50] <ypsila> phyerboss: that might take some time, but now you do have a button "kill"
[03:50] <danny500> I have a question
[03:50] <phyerboss> yeah, I have it up
[03:50] <danny500> how come everyone in the ubuntu channel ignores everything I say?
[03:50] <danny500> no matter what
[03:50] <ypsila> phyerboss:  and now you kill all processes "adept"
[03:51] <ypsila> danny500: I didnt see any question
[03:51] <phyerboss> adept_notifier and apt-index-watch are all thats running?
[03:51] <phyerboss> minus "?"
[03:51] <mardi> hi, i've just installed kubuntu 6.10, shut down the system, attached another hard drive it's not seen when booted, do i need to alster fstab or something?
[03:51] <ypsila> phyerboss: adept notifier is a bit crazy
[03:52] <mrigns> !ping
[03:52] <ubotu> pong
[03:52] <danny500> phyerboss knows what I'm talking about
[03:52] <phyerboss> so just kill it?
[03:52] <danny500> thats why I come here
[03:52] <phyerboss> ...which i been trying to do*
[03:52] <ypsila> phyerboss: yes
[03:53] <danny500> I use ubuntu not kubuntu but you guess still are helpfull since they are almost the same
[03:53] <phyerboss> oh snap!
[03:53] <ypsila> danny500: #ubuntu
[03:53] <phyerboss> it ACTUALLY stopped this time!
[03:54] <danny500> I'm in it right now
[03:54] <danny500> no one will help me lol
[03:54] <mardi> me either....
[03:54] <ypsila> phyerboss: so rembember what I told you, you will need that again the one or other day
[03:54] <danny500> ok does anyone here know anything about K3B?
[03:54] <ypsila> phyerboss: doing the right things will give the right results ;-)
[03:54] <phyerboss> thanks ypsila! no one ever pointed out killing it that way
[03:54] <icecruncher> how can you view the history in konqueror
[03:55] <ypsila> phyerboss: as I mentioned before, the grafic way is better to understand for beginners
[03:55] <phyerboss> i was getting irritated
[03:55] <danny500> lol
[03:55] <phyerboss> so, any idea if there will ever be an absolute fix to that locked database issue?
[03:56] <phyerboss> its cool knowing how to fix it...but you have to admit, it'd get pretty bothersome over a bit of time
[03:57] <danny500> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
[03:57] <ypsila> phyerboss: its not really a bug, it happens when there are dependencies in database that cannot be loaded, something like that
[03:57] <danny500> now they pay attention to me lol
[03:57] <ypsila> phyerboss: when your system is working you do not need to make every update that is suggested
[03:57] <phyerboss> ok, well since Im here...
[03:58] <phyerboss> anyone have a clue as to how I can remove Compiz
[03:58] <danny500> some guy is talking about using Windows Live Messanger on Ubuntu and he's like "how do I get it to work" and I said you don't, go use windows lol
[03:58] <ypsila> phyerboss: so I just deactivated the adept notifier and from time to time have a look at the adept
[03:58] <danny500> phyerboss
[03:58] <phyerboss> ypsila, the updates pop up as a warning icon and I just click on it and it does the rest
[03:59] <danny500> phyerboss
[03:59] <phyerboss> yeah danny?
[03:59] <ypsila> phyerboss: yes and that is exactly what makes that thing hang up
[03:59] <ypsila> danny500: konversation, kopete............
[03:59] <danny500> ?
[04:00] <ypsila> for live messenger
[04:00] <danny500> phyerboss use the Synaptic Package Manager to remove programs
[04:00] <phyerboss> Speaking about Kopete: is'nt there a way to transfer files withthe AIM protocol? I can send/recv files in the MSN one but not AIM
[04:01] <danny500> doesn't Yelp do the same?
[04:01] <ypsila> I do not use that for file transfers
[04:01] <phyerboss> most friends i swap art with are on aim
[04:01] <ypsila> phyerboss: not my problem
[04:01] <danny500> your using msn?
[04:01] <phyerboss> so, i am used to sending pics to them through there
[04:02] <ypsila> pff
[04:02] <phyerboss> no Kopete is a multi messenger
[04:02] <phyerboss> it has multiple protcols
[04:02] <phyerboss> I use MSN and AIM
[04:02] <danny500> sometimes different IM have different languages they use to send stuff
[04:02] <danny500> and it might not connect properly to others
[04:02] <danny500> ever here of email?
[04:03] <phyerboss> well, its not that...its just that you dont see ANY option whatsoever to send things
[04:03] <danny500> drag and drop
[04:03] <danny500> the files onto the chat area
[04:03] <danny500> that usually works
[04:03] <phyerboss> that does not work either
[04:03] <danny500> copy paste?
[04:03] <ypsila> danny500: from which country are you?
[04:04] <danny500> Canada
[04:04] <danny500> why?
[04:04] <ypsila> ah, nice
[04:04] <danny500> what?
[04:04] <ypsila> no special reason, im nosy
[04:04] <danny500> lol cool
[04:04] <danny500> you?
[04:04] <ypsila> germany
[04:04] <danny500> lol
[04:04] <danny500> I was guessing
[04:05] <danny500> ok, does anyone know anything about K3b?
[04:05] <phyerboss> well all methods you mention danny are ones Im used to trying when i was in windows and using the actual programs...but here on kubuntu, its a diffrent game
[04:05] <ypsila> easy to find out, when I said, I'm having a german keyboard layout
[04:05] <phyerboss> so NONE of them work
[04:05] <ypsila> !k3b
[04:05] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[04:05] <danny500> I tried that lol
[04:05] <danny500> nothing
[04:05] <danny500> I need help burning a VCD
[04:06] <danny500> the bin-cue way
[04:06] <ypsila> danny500: what is a vcd?
[04:06] <danny500> video cd
[04:06] <ypsila> video on cd?
[04:06] <danny500> lol
[04:06] <danny500> like dvd
[04:06] <danny500> but using a CD
[04:06] <ypsila> ok, got it
[04:07] <danny500> ok then, I guess this isn't the time to be asking that question then lol
[04:07] <danny500> oh well
[04:07] <ypsila> danny500: edgy or what?
[04:07] <danny500> on Ubuntu
[04:08] <danny500> holy crap
[04:08] <ypsila> 6.06 6.10  or 7.04?
[04:08] <danny500> 6.06 lol
[04:08] <jimmy_> allo a tous
[04:08] <danny500> that was a big dup
[04:08] <danny500> dump*
[04:09] <ypsila> bonjour
[04:09] <jimmy_> moi canada h
[04:09] <ypsila> !france
[04:09] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:09] <danny500> what are the odds of like 50 people all joining at once?
[04:09] <ypsila> ah, J#adore ubotu
[04:09] <ypsila> netsplit
[04:09] <ypsila> !netsplit
[04:09] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:09] <jimmy_> la derniere version kubuntu c est 7.04
[04:09] <danny500> oh ok lol
[04:09] <ypsila> non
[04:09] <danny500> #kubuntu-fr
[04:10] <danny500> go there
[04:10] <ypsila> c'est beta et testing, la derniere est 6.10
[04:10] <jimmy_> ok merci
[04:11] <jimmy_> jai un ibm desktop  pentium 4 c est tu assez pour une installation
[04:11] <ypsila> phyerboss: the better solution: join #compiz and ask there
[04:11] <ypsila> jimmy_: ???
[04:12] <jimmy_> je debute sous kubuntu
[04:12] <danny500> Que ?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> howdy all , i've tried , but with no luck editing the theunderbird prefs.js file to open Firefox as the default browser on links, but it won't respond ..keeps using konq ...any ideas ?
[04:12] <jimmy_> comment de memoire j ai de besoin pour kubuntu
[04:12] <jervine> jimmy_: anglais?
[04:12] <ypsila> jimmy_: /join #kubuntu-fr
[04:12] <James_Mc_Gregor> jimmy_: Il doit y avoir un serveur francais
[04:13] <danny500> Jimmy_ ceci n'est pas un serveur franais, s'il vous plat aller  #le kubunut-fr
[04:13] <ypsila> BluesKaj: kcontrol
[04:14] <danny500> #kubunut-fr*
[04:14] <danny500> #kubuntu-fr
[04:14] <danny500> I mean
[04:14] <BluesKaj> ypsila: been there done that
[04:14] <danny500> oops
[04:14] <PhinnFort> why does bootchart want to install gnome for me?
[04:14] <danny500> may be it ca't detect gnome
[04:15] <ypsila> BluesKaj: hmm, maybe it needs a reboot of kde?
[04:15] <danny500> is gnome there?
[04:15] <danny500> PhinnFort?
[04:15] <PhinnFort> danny500: no, gnome isn't here, and I don't want it
[04:15] <PhinnFort> :D
[04:16] <danny500> you can install it and ignore it
[04:16] <PhinnFort> i try to install bootchart, and apt* wants to pull in a lot of gnome libs
[04:16] <PhinnFort> none of them are mentioned on packages.ubuntu.com, though
[04:16] <danny500> just install them and forget they are there
[04:16] <PhinnFort> danny500: I don't like gnome
[04:17] <ypsila> nobody does :-D
[04:17] <danny500> wait
[04:17] <ypsila> except some weirdos
[04:17] <danny500> gnome is the graphical view right
[04:17] <PhinnFort> danny500: graphical view?
[04:17] <PhinnFort> it's a desktop
[04:17] <danny500> never mind
[04:17] <PhinnFort> environment
[04:17] <danny500> oh ok
[04:17] <PhinnFort> KDE's ugly sibling
[04:17] <Arwen> gnome is the gui that 99% of linux users use?
[04:17] <PhinnFort> :D
[04:17] <danny500> can't you download it then delete it?
[04:17] <PhinnFort> Arwen: no
[04:17] <ypsila> Arwen: wrong
[04:17] <Arwen> danny500, you could, but it's messy
[04:18] <PhinnFort> danny500: my booting takes forever, so I can just install it, reboot and delete it again
[04:18] <Arwen> PhinnFort, ypsila, maybe I'm exaggerating, but the fact is that gnome is way more prevalent than kde...
[04:18] <ypsila> Arwen: look at distrowatch,
[04:18] <danny500> install it, delete it then reboot
[04:18] <firsm> Uhm, I'm having trouble with my soundcard, basically OSS emulation with ALSA works, but when I try something like mplayer -ao alsa I get nothing, but it does work with mplayer -oss, any idea?
[04:18] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it isn't, not by what users want at least
[04:18] <PhinnFort> Arwen: some big distros, like Ubuntu and RedHat has it as default
[04:18] <Arwen> ^^
[04:19] <PhinnFort> Arwen: but I've met extremely few who choose Gnome over KDE, by themselves
[04:19] <danny500> but you can turn it off
[04:19] <danny500> I choose gnome lol
[04:19] <Arwen> danny500, you could... but then it's eating a good 1GB of your disk space, lol
[04:19] <danny500> 1 gb is nothing lol
[04:19] <PhinnFort> danny500: weirdo!;)
[04:19] <Arwen> danny500, hehe
[04:19] <danny500> how big is your hd?
[04:19] <PhinnFort> Arwen: you can change icons, you know?
[04:20] <Arwen> PhinnFort, yes, but I'd rather not change anything if I have something that already works
[04:20] <danny500> lol
[04:20] <PhinnFort> Arwen: ?
[04:20] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[04:20] <ypsila> Arwen: check at distrowatch.com, if you put together suse and fedora then kde is the most used
[04:20] <PhinnFort> Arwen: that must be the silliest conclusion all day, thank you for the laugh;)
[04:20] <danny500> ok does anyone know how to burn a VCD the bin-cue way?
[04:21] <Arwen> PhinnFort, let's see.... I could a) run gnome and have a decent looking DE... or b) tweak kde and get a decent looking DE
[04:21] <Arwen> always the path of least resistance...
[04:21] <danny500> anyone?
[04:21] <PhinnFort> Arwen: You can't tweak gnome to look decent
[04:21] <PhinnFort> that's the problem)
[04:21] <PhinnFort> ;)
[04:21] <danny500> #vcd
[04:21] <Arwen> danny500, um, VCDs suck
[04:21] <ypsila> Arwen: ???
[04:21] <Arwen> PhinnFort, bah
[04:21] <PhinnFort> !vcd
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <danny500> I know but I don't hve a dvd burner lol
[04:21] <PhinnFort> Arwen: even Linus Torvalds says that Gnome is dumbed down
[04:21] <danny500> haha
[04:22] <Arwen> danny500, um, burn MPEG-4 files instead...
[04:22] <PhinnFort> *too
[04:22] <Arwen> PhinnFort, it is, but it's nice and clean looking
[04:22] <danny500> I don't have a mpeg-4 file
[04:22] <danny500> I have a bin-cue file
[04:22] <ypsila> Arwen: then join #ubuntu
[04:22] <PhinnFort> Arwen: imho, it looks stripped
[04:22] <chuen> Hi. What's the best way to serach for a library to see if I've installed it correctly?
[04:22] <PhinnFort> :P
[04:22] <Arwen> ypsila, I can't.... lol
[04:22] <PhinnFort> banned?
[04:22] <Arwen> PhinnFort, let's not start a flame war? :-)
[04:22] <ypsila> chuen: use adept type the name in
[04:22] <danny500> hehe
[04:22] <ypsila> Arwen: they banned you?
[04:23] <PhinnFort> Arwen: ok, put down your weapons first
[04:23] <PhinnFort> :D
[04:23] <Arwen> hehe, sure thing
[04:23] <danny500> who got banned from what?
[04:23] <PhinnFort> smoke a peace pipe?
[04:23] <Arwen> parts of GNOME do look dumbed down though
[04:23] <chuen> ypsila: I did that and it's not there.
[04:23] <Arwen> I don't smoke :-P
[04:23] <PhinnFort> and kde is a bit chaotic, at times
[04:23] <ypsila> chuen: then it is not installed I would say
[04:23] <Arwen> PhinnFort, meh, it's that default purple color :-(
[04:23] <chuen> ypsila: Maybe it didn't compile correctly - although 'mak install' seemed ok.
[04:23] <PhinnFort> ;)
[04:23] <Arwen> chuen, um... make install? lol
[04:23] <PhinnFort> Arwen: that's Kubuntu
[04:24] <chuen> ypsila: I'll look again.
[04:24] <Arwen> yeah, I understand that KDE itself is a nice blue/silver
[04:24] <Arwen> not "mak install"
[04:24] <ypsila> chuen: what are you trying to do? most things should be in the repositories
[04:24] <chuen> Arwen: Yes.
[04:24] <ypsila> Arwen: meine is white with a nice big red spider
[04:24] <chuen> this is called libinklevel and isn't.
[04:24] <ypsila> chuen: what are you trying to do?
[04:25] <chuen> ypsila: check the level of my ink in my printer.
[04:25] <ben> does anyone on here have linux mce installed?
[04:25] <ypsila> chuen: oh my god
[04:25] <Arwen> chuen, is your printer on the supported list? lol
[04:25] <chuen> ypsila: Yes.
[04:26] <chuen> Arwen: Yes.
[04:26] <Arwen> ok, well, dunno then
[04:26] <ypsila> repos are not included
[04:27] <mrigns> !ping
[04:27] <ubotu> pong
[04:27] <ben> !ping
[04:28] <chuen> ypsila: As it's the first thing I'ce compiled, it's possible that something didn't worl - maybe an arror I missed.
[04:28] <chuen> ypsila: I'll try it again.
[04:28] <ben> !ping
[04:28] <ubotu> pong
[04:28] <ypsila> chuen: you do not have to compile it! it should be already be in universe
[04:29] <Arwen> ben, don't do that...
[04:29] <ben> ok
[04:29] <chuen> OK. Just checked an libinklevel3 is there.
[04:29] <Arwen> chuen, lol... yeah, get ink and libinklevel3
[04:30] <chuen> Arwen: ink? Is that a command line prog?
[04:30] <Arwen> think so, don't know, my printer is lexmark
[04:30] <ypsila> chuen: he's kidding
[04:30] <Arwen> ypsila, me? no I'm not...
[04:30] <ypsila> okeh
[04:30] <ypsila> chuen: ever tried to google for it?
[04:30] <Arwen> PhinnFort, let's see? :-)
[04:31] <PhinnFort> hang on
[04:31] <PhinnFort> http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/bootchart.png
[04:31] <chuen> ypsila: ink exists, but is not in repository.
[04:32] <ben> linux mce should work on edgy right?
[04:32] <danny500> hey, whats a good program for recoding movie files?
[04:32] <chuen> Arwen: I'll try compiling and installing ink.
[04:32] <danny500> like avi to mpeg
[04:33] <PhinnFort> danny500: ffmpeg og mplayer
[04:33] <danny500> ok
[04:33] <Arwen> chuen, ink is also in repository.. at least for me
[04:33] <danny500> thanks
[04:33] <PhinnFort> danny500: mplayer comes with a program called mencoder
[04:33] <PhinnFort> danny500: look on kde-apps.org for graphical front ends
[04:33] <chuen> Arwen: Which one?
[04:33] <danny500> ko
[04:33] <danny500> ok
[04:33] <Arwen> chuen, universe/admin - maybe not for you, but I have it here in feisty
[04:33] <PhinnFort> !info ink feisty
[04:33] <ubotu> ink: tool for checking the ink level of your local printer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2~rc3-2 (feisty), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[04:34] <chuen> chuen: I have edgy - sadly not there.
[04:34] <danny500> hey, how is feisty anyways?
[04:34] <chuen> Arwen: not in edgy
[04:34] <Arwen> ok, well, go for it
[04:34] <danny500> I still have 6.06 lol
[04:34] <Arwen> hah
[04:34] <ypsila> chuen: google for it!
[04:34] <danny500> works good fo me but is feisty faster to run or what not?
[04:34] <chuen> ypsila: I have it - I just need to install it.
[04:35] <PhinnFort> danny500: edgy/feisty is a bit faster to boot, because of the new booting system
[04:35] <Arwen> GNOME's nautilus leaks memory :-(
[04:35] <PhinnFort> Arwen: tried Dolphin?
[04:35] <Arwen> hmm, no
[04:35] <danny500> oh ok then, is there a way for me to get a cd of it?
[04:35] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it's very nice
[04:35] <ypsila> chuen: so what is your problem? take adept, search for ink, and klick install
[04:35] <PhinnFort> Arwen: reminiscent of Nautilus
[04:36] <ypsila> danny500: there are no cds for feisty, download it
[04:36] <Arwen> PhinnFort, heh, qt...
[04:36] <danny500> oh ok lol
[04:36] <Arwen> sorry, but my file manager needs to be in gtk :-\
[04:36] <PhinnFort> ok, why isn't my wireless card getting it's module loaded on startup
[04:36] <przemek_> witam
[04:36] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it pwns nautilus;)
[04:36] <przemek_> welcome
[04:36] <Arwen> PhinnFort, probably, but the increased load time will kill any advantage it has
[04:37] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it loads in <1 sec here
[04:37] <chuen> ypsila: It's not on edgy - I checked using adept.
[04:37] <PhinnFort> KDELIBs is already loaded, though
[04:37] <Arwen> PhinnFort, heh.....
[04:37] <ypsila> chuen: moment
[04:37] <danny500> hu, my system was getting really slow for some reason so I went to see what was going on, turns out that my torrent program was going crazy with the downloading lol
[04:37] <PhinnFort> danny500: what program?
[04:37] <danny500> I had like 3MB/s going on for a second lol
[04:37] <Arwen> PhinnFort, well, can't hurt to try it, I already have kdelibs..
[04:37] <danny500> Ktorroent
[04:38] <danny500> oops
[04:38] <danny500> ktorrent
[04:38] <PhinnFort> danny500: do you have the latest version?
[04:38] <danny500> yep
[04:38] <danny500> no it's fine it was just going really fast
[04:38] <PhinnFort> that explains the speed;)
[04:38] <PhinnFort> a friend of mine had 30~mbs once
[04:38] <Arwen> speaking of 3M/s... my hard drive is about that fast :-(
[04:38] <PhinnFort> not torrent, though
[04:38] <danny500> I'm running a P# with only 320 RAM lol I can't handle 3MB/s without slowing down hehe
[04:38] <PhinnFort> Arwen: hdparm -tT?
[04:39] <danny500> P3
[04:39] <Arwen> PhinnFort, that doesn't provide any insight into realworld performance...
[04:39] <PhinnFort> danny500: Athlon 64;)
[04:39] <danny500> lol
[04:39] <PhinnFort> danny500: it pwned a couple of years ago;)
[04:39] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it may show a bottleneck
[04:39] <danny500> hey I also have an AMD K-5 kicking it around here lol
[04:40] <danny500> oh and a P-166 lol
[04:40] <PhinnFort> my sister has an old laptop with a k-5, i think
[04:40] <chuen> ypsila: Do you have edgy?
[04:40] <danny500> man thats old lol
[04:40] <PhinnFort> danny500: i have an old Pentium (1), 32mb ram, running DeLi Linux
[04:40] <PhinnFort> it's very nice;)
[04:40] <danny500> :)
[04:40] <danny500> I just found something cool about my P3 though
[04:41] <PhinnFort> oh?
[04:41] <Arwen> /dev/sda: Timing cached reads:   1786 MB in  2.00 seconds = 893.21 MB/sec Timing buffered disk reads:  152 MB in  3.03 seconds =  50.18 MB/sec
[04:41] <Arwen> PhinnFort, ^^ - but I don't see that in real world performance :-\
[04:41] <PhinnFort> Arwen: is it badly fragmented?
[04:41] <danny500> if I get the proper mobo I can have 8 of them running on it at once lol
[04:41] <ypsila> chuen: yes I have
[04:41] <PhinnFort> danny500: :D:D
[04:41] <Arwen> PhinnFort, no idea, 10% last time the auto-fsck ran
[04:41] <danny500> 8 551MHz P3's lol
[04:41] <tulio__> how do i enable double head??
[04:41] <PhinnFort> Arwen: ext3?
[04:41] <Arwen> yes
[04:42] <PhinnFort> Arwen: there's several flags that improves ext3's performance
[04:42] <chuen> ypsila: Did you check in adept for 'ink'?
[04:42] <PhinnFort> Arwen: to make it use b-trees and whatnot
[04:42] <Arwen> PhinnFort, huh... does that come at the cost of stability or reliability?
[04:42] <ypsila> chuen: I do have a laserprinter ;-) and I do not have "ink" in adept
[04:42] <Irayo> How can I make PDF files show up directly in FireFox tabs, without downloading them to disk and opening with a separate PDF viewer?
[04:42] <Arwen> because I *could* use xfs if I felt like it...
[04:42] <PhinnFort> Arwen: some of the flags, but some are just not enabled by default because they aren't as tested
[04:42] <chuen> ypsila: Okay. I'll try and install it - thx.
[04:42] <Arwen> Irayo, get the acroread-mozilla package I think... why would you ever want that though?
[04:43] <danny500> I don't really use my Linux drive, except fordownloading, buring music/movies.
[04:43] <PhinnFort> Arwen: I have XFS on my /home, not that big of a performace gain
[04:43] <danny500> I use my Windows drive for everything else thouhg
[04:43] <Arwen> PhinnFort, flags like? and is there a real documented performance gain?
[04:43] <PhinnFort> Arwen: I don't know how much is "documented", but much is pretty obvious
[04:44] <Irayo> Arwen: I'm writing a reference manual, and the server already has LaTeX set up, so I'm compiling it over there, and the easiest way to access it is through HTTP
[04:44] <ypsila> chuen: what printer is ist?
[04:44] <chuen> ypsila: Epson D68
[04:44] <danny500> oh
[04:44] <danny500> nice :)
[04:44] <Arwen> Irayo, well, go for it....
[04:44] <Arwen> PhinnFort, you've yet to elaborate on these magical flags...
[04:44] <chuen> ypsila: Got an error after 'make'
[04:45] <PhinnFort> Arwen: this looks nice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107856
[04:45] <chuen> ypsila: about 4 lines of code - can I pastebin it?
[04:45] <PhinnFort> Arwen: you might also want to look into directory indexing
[04:46] <PhinnFort> the "drivers" for my wireless card isn't loaded on boot-up, anyone know why that may be?
[04:47] <Arwen> PhinnFort, that page just describes how to reduce the journaling level...
[04:47] <Arwen> and that's one of the things I will NEVER do
[04:47] <danny500> #wesnoth
[04:47] <PhinnFort> Arwen: google for info on directory indexing, then
[04:48] <PhinnFort> i don't think that hits reliability or anything
[04:48] <danny500> hahaha there are actually people there lol
[04:50] <Arwen> PhinnFort, I assume that since the btrees have to be stored somewhere that I actually lose disk space?
[04:50] <PhinnFort> Arwen: it's miniscule, i suppose
[04:51] <Arwen> PhinnFort, should I generate them whilst offline?
[04:51] <Arwen> offline as in live cd, not unplugged ethernet
[04:51] <PhinnFort> Arwen: and you have probably already lost quite a percentage which is reserved for root
[04:51] <PhinnFort> Arwen: i think that's the safest
[04:51] <Arwen> PhinnFort, um, no, first thing I do is "tune2fs -m 0"
[04:51] <PhinnFort> Arwen: that's not safe
[04:52] <Arwen> I don't care if my /home runs out of space...
[04:52] <PhinnFort> Arwen: in case some program goes bananas, and fills your disk, you should be able to boot
[04:52] <Arwen> then I always run as root and delete some stuff
[04:52] <chuen> ypsila: Gotta go in a min. Thx for your help
[04:52] <danny500> wow, that room is dead
[04:52] <Arwen> PhinnFort, read above
[04:52] <Arwen> danny500, most rooms are
[04:52] <danny500> lol
[04:52] <PhinnFort> Arwen: read it, understandable
[04:52] <ypsila> chuen: I wasnt really helpful
[04:52] <danny500> wonder why
[04:53] <Yorokobi> danny500, nobody else has as many entertaining problems as #kubuntu
[04:53] <danny500> :):D:):D:):D
[04:53] <ypsila> h?
[04:53] <danny500> well they should at lest log out of the room hehe
[04:53] <danny500> least*
[04:54] <PhinnFort> danny500: they started talking right after you left;)
[04:54] <PhinnFort> lol
[04:54] <danny500> they did?
[04:54] <PhinnFort> [16:53]  <Soliton> i wonder if that was dannycalifornia..
[04:54] <danny500> what they say?
[04:54] <danny500> HAHAHAHAHA
[04:54] <flyte__> Whats the best way to remote desktop in to my edgy machine via vista? VNC?
[04:54] <danny500> #wesnoth
[04:54] <PhinnFort> flyte__: nx, maybe?
[04:54] <flyte__> PhinnFort, nx?
[04:54] <danny500> don't tell them you told me :)
[04:55] <PhinnFort> !info nx
[04:55] <ubotu> Package nx does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[04:55] <ypsila> flyte__: vnc
[04:55] <PhinnFort> !nx
[04:55] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[04:55] <Yorokobi> The FreeNX debs are available from nomachine.com
[04:55] <PhinnFort> and from seveas
[04:55] <Yorokobi> true
[04:56] <Arwen> eww.... seveas..
[04:57] <danny500> PhinnFort
[04:57] <PhinnFort> yeah
[04:57] <danny500> go check the roo m now lol
[04:57] <ypsila> seveas?
[04:57] <PhinnFort> are they nasty with you
[04:57] <danny500> nope
[04:58] <danny500> antisocial though
[04:58] <danny500> I took me like 5 posts to get 4 people talking lol
[04:58] <PhinnFort> danny500: what do you expect?;)
[04:58] <cwillu> how do I get rid of the terminal side bar in kate?
[04:58] <Arwen> cwillu, you don't like the built in konsole? lol
[04:59] <PhinnFort> there's a console in all KDE apps
[04:59] <PhinnFort> or close to
[04:59] <cwillu> I have no interest in seeing a console in my editor, nor have I any interest in seeing a wrench in my car
[04:59] <PhinnFort> even konversation
[04:59] <ypsila> PhinnFort: that 15 people take care about his f****** problems
[05:00] <PhinnFort> ypsila: ?
[05:00] <ypsila> PhinnFort:  the questions of danny500
[05:00] <cwillu> it's the one tab in kate I have to use for, and ends up making the tab bar use an extra line at the size I keep kate
[05:00] <cwillu> to=no
[05:00] <danny500> ypsila?
[05:00] <danny500> what?
[05:01] <ypsila> danny500?
[05:01] <ypsila> nothing
[05:01] <danny500> are you watching the wesnoth channel?
[05:02] <cwillu> so there's no way to do it?
[05:02] <Yorokobi> cwillu, might I suggest gvim ;)
[05:03] <ypsila> cwillu: there is always a way, try to find it
[05:03] <cwillu> I'm gonna pretend you didn't just suggest something with 'vim' in the name
[05:03] <flyte__> is realnx > vnc?
[05:03] <cwillu> when I was just complaining about a console in my editor :p
[05:03] <danny500> holy crap those people are so stupid! AWWWWWWWWW
[05:03] <PhinnFort> flyte__: nx pretty much owns vnc, when it comes to efficency, afaik
[05:03] <PhinnFort> <3 Kate
[05:04] <flyte__> PhinnFort, and there is a windows client?
[05:04] <PhinnFort> flyte__: i believe so, yes
[05:04] <Yorokobi> flyte__, windows, bsd, solaris, linux ... yeah, there's a client for NX
[05:04] <flyte__> ok.
[05:04] <flyte__> where, and how, do I install the package for edgy?
[05:05] <PhinnFort> !nx | flyte__
[05:05] <ubotu> flyte__: FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:05] <ypsila> can you tell me the advantage of nx versus vnc in one sentence?
[05:05] <Yorokobi> ypsila, security
[05:05] <PhinnFort> ypsila: efficency
[05:05] <PhinnFort> (spilling?)
[05:05] <PhinnFort> *spelling
[05:05] <Yorokobi> effeciency
[05:06] <PhinnFort> thanks
[05:06] <ypsila> :-D okay, I will try it the next time
[05:06] <ypsila> Yorokobi: you got one more try
[05:06] <Yorokobi> for what, ypsila
[05:06] <Yorokobi> ?
[05:07] <ypsila> to type efficiency
[05:07] <ypsila> ;-)
[05:08] <flyte__> the help.ubuntu.com site says for me to gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, but I don't have skdudo
[05:08] <danny500> PhinnFort
[05:08] <Yorokobi> haha, I missed the red underline there. Thanks :)
[05:08] <PhinnFort> flyte__: use kdesu
[05:08] <danny500> PhinnFort
[05:08] <ypsila> Yorokobi: the version of PhinnFort was wrong either
[05:08] <PhinnFort> danny500: danny500 danny500
[05:08] <danny500> go look at the wesnoth channel, what are they saying? lol
[05:09] <PhinnFort> danny500: [17:08]  <Torangan> Did I miss much by putting danny onto the ignore list?
[05:09] <PhinnFort> danny500: then everyone says "nothing"
[05:09] <danny500> lol HAHAHA
[05:09] <danny500> lossers
[05:09] <danny500> they were giving me crap for going "oing"
[05:09] <ypsila> reminds me of wintendo is unable to write words
[05:09] <danny500> ping*
[05:10] <danny500> they aren't even talking about anything but they give me crap for saying Ping 2 times
[05:10] <ypsila> in a german translation they had 8 (eight) versions of compatibility, whereof 2 (two) were correct
[05:10] <marius_> hi
[05:11] <PhinnFort> !hi | marius_
[05:11] <ubotu> marius_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:11] <danny500> I wonder what else they do besides eat popcorn and play WoW all day lol
[05:11] <marius_> does someone solved problems with drivers?
[05:11] <marius_> for nidia
[05:11] <marius_> nvidia
[05:11] <ypsila> danny500: eating hamburgers and drinking dietcoke
[05:11] <danny500> what card?
[05:11] <danny500> lol
[05:11] <danny500> :D
[05:11] <ypsila> !nvidia
[05:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:11] <danny500> can't forget that
[05:12] <marius_> geforce4 440 MMX agp8
[05:12] <danny500> !nvidia lol
[05:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:12] <danny500> !nvidia
[05:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:12] <marius_> yes
[05:12] <ypsila> marius_: should work
[05:12] <marius_> for last kubuntu?
[05:12] <x_link> Is there something wrong with Kubuntu 6.10?
[05:12] <marius_> beta
[05:13] <ypsila> har har
[05:13] <x_link> First time I installed 6.10 I couldn't use su or something, cause I never choosed the password
[05:13] <ypsila> beta is beta and always fun with drivers
[05:13] <sofiane> help me please , i search a french canal for kubuntu
[05:13] <PhinnFort> !fr | sofiane
[05:13] <ubotu> sofiane: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:13] <ypsila> sofiane: kubuntu-fr
[05:13] <x_link> This time I couldn't login with the login I choosed during the installation
[05:13] <marius_> but when i update
[05:13] <sofiane> thanks
[05:13] <marius_> the beta will becaome stable? :D
[05:13] <marius_> become
[05:14] <ypsila> sofiane: welcome
[05:14] <ypsila> marius_: we all hope for it
[05:14] <x_link> Anybody?
[05:15] <ypsila> x_link: never had that problem
[05:15] <ypsila> x_link: you paid attention at "case sensitive"?
[05:15] <ypsila> Blizzzek: huhu :-D
[05:16] <x_link> ypsila: ?
[05:16] <x_link> I just installed it
[05:16] <Mena> !hddtemp
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hddtemp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <ypsila> x_link: why should kubuntu forget your pw? most likely you typed in something wrong
[05:17] <Yorokobi> x_link, do you provide the installer a password when it asks to set up your user account?
[05:17] <flyte__> PhinnFort, I can't seem to find the windows client
[05:17] <Mena> Hey the new kernel doesn't enable the Temp sensor
[05:17] <Mena> Why?
[05:17] <PhinnFort> flyte__: http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-windows.php&sa=X&oi=smap&resnum=1&ct=result&cd=2&usg=__ODHloMIzvbF8mpbgD-797AksMfI=
[05:17] <x_link> Yorokobi: I'm 100% sure I typed it right, cause it's an SIMPLE password and I use it on this machine as well.
[05:17] <x_link> ypsila: I can not type it wrong twice
[05:18] <PhinnFort> flyte__: please look at the search results on google: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=nomachine&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[05:18] <PhinnFort> hard, isn't it?;)
[05:18] <Mena> kernel 2.6.20.13 not 2.6.20.14
[05:18] <Yorokobi> flyte__, http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-windows.php
[05:18] <ypsila> x_link: I'm able to type it wrong as many times its needed ;-)
[05:18] <flyte__> thx
[05:18] <marius_> mda no i am afraid to install that driver
[05:18] <marius_> i configured my kubuntu so well
[05:18] <marius_> no thanks :D
[05:18] <marius_> it may crash
[05:18] <x_link> he
[05:18] <x_link> Well wel
[05:18] <x_link> Thanks anyway
[05:19] <marius_> does kubuntu has time synchronizer?
[05:19] <ypsila> .oO
[05:19] <Yorokobi> !ntpdate | marius_
[05:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntpdate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:19] <Yorokobi> !info ntpdate | marius_
[05:19] <ubotu> marius_: ntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 160 kB
[05:19] <danny500> how do I open mencoder?
[05:20] <marius_> ?
[05:20] <marius_> what?
[05:20] <ypsila> oh Gott
[05:20] <marius_> ?
[05:21] <ypsila> danny500: tried alt f2 ?
[05:21] <Yorokobi> marius_, yes, Kubuntu has a time sync tool. Its called ntpdate
[05:21] <PhinnFort> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide
[05:21] <PhinnFort> !info ntpdate
[05:21] <ubotu> ntpdate: The ntpdate client for setting system time from NTP servers. In component main, is important. Version 1:4.2.0a+stable-9ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 46 kB, installed size 160 kB
[05:21] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: doesn't the kde clock sync the time?
[05:22] <flyte__> hrm, when I try to connect via windows, I get an error popup saying "Could not start local X server" - any ideas?
[05:22] <PhinnFort> marius_: right click on the clock, "adjust time...etc"
[05:22] <PhinnFort> hook of "Set time and date automatically"
[05:22] <Yorokobi> PhinnFort, not that I'm aware of. I've never seen ntp options for it
[05:22] <marius_> Konversation has bugs
[05:22] <PhinnFort> marius_: ?
[05:22] <ypsila> feisty is beta
[05:22] <PhinnFort> marius_: complain to Sho_ in #kde, he's a dev
[05:22] <marius_> it crash my ubuntu
[05:22] <marius_> bye
[05:23] <marius_> and thanks
[05:23] <ypsila> PhinnFort: :-D
[05:23] <Yorokobi> PhinnFort, hey look, there it is.
[05:23] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:23] <ypsila> I always thought only the german kubuntu support channel gets such funny questions
[05:24] <Yorokobi> I guess I can remove my crontab entry for ntpdate now ... :)
[05:24] <ace> Hi all
[05:25] <ace> i just updated to feisty
[05:25] <ypsila> kicher
[05:25] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: you're welcome;)
[05:25] <ace> and i noticed that my hard disks are detected as SCSI instead of IDE in the alternative installer
[05:25] <ypsila> thats not an update its an upgrade
[05:25] <PhinnFort> Yorokobi: there's not many that know about KDE's ability to sync time
[05:26] <jmichaelx> i have upgraded three desktops to feisty.... but i'm still hesitant to upgrade my laptop
[05:26] <flyte__> !vnc
[05:26] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[05:26] <PhinnFort> it would be pretty neat
[05:26] <ace> yup there seems to be a problem, in fstab it also points to sda and sdb
[05:26] <ypsila> ace: have a look at launchpad
[05:27] <ace> and they don't exist in /dev
[05:27] <ypsila> !launchpad
[05:27] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[05:27] <ace> launchpad?
[05:27] <ypsila> bugreports
[05:27] <ace> ypsila: thanks
[05:27] <ypsila> welcome
[05:27] <ace> is launchpad.net for ubuntu?
[05:28] <PhinnFort> ace: yes
[05:28] <PhinnFort> ace: amongst other projects
[05:28] <Jucato> ace: it's used by Ubuntu, but not only for Ubuntu. (Canonical is trying to market it to other open source projects as well)
[05:29] <ypsila> moin Jucato
[05:29] <Jucato> moin ypsila :)
[05:29] <flyte__> !freenx
[05:29] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[05:29] <ypsila> Jucato: long time no see :-)
[05:30] <Jucato> yeah. you've been gone quite a while. I, on the other, have nowhere to go :/
[05:30] <ace> doesn't seem to be there
[05:30] <ypsila> Jucato: have a good time
[05:30] <Jucato> ace: feisty problems? try #ubuntu+1
[05:31] <ace> ok
[05:31] <ypsila> Jucato: thats the official one for feisty?
[05:32] <Jucato> ypsila: for any upcoming release. (when feisty is released, it will be the channel for the next release)
[05:32] <ypsila> Jucato: thx
[05:37] <marius_> a god player like winamp for kubuntu?
[05:37] <WuMingDao> marius_, like winamp: XMMS, good: Amarok
[05:37] <ReTyPe> everytime i open a program from console i first get: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[05:37] <marius_> and with streaming?
[05:37] <marius_> for radio
[05:38] <marius_> acc format
[05:38] <draik> Does anybody here have an HP 3210 All-in-one?
[05:38] <marius_> amarok not
[05:38] <ypsila> draik: usb?
[05:39] <Jucato> draik: HP 1350 PSC (Printer Scanner Copier) only here :(
[05:39] <ypsila> hp4p
[05:39] <WuMingDao> marius_, you'll probably need to install amarok-engines and play with gstreamer for streaming. I have zero experience so I cannot say for certain.
[05:40] <marius_> and some program for broadcasting?
[05:40] <marius_> like SAM broadcaster
[05:40] <WuMingDao> !info icecast
[05:40] <ubotu> Package icecast does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[05:40] <PhinnFort> !icecast
[05:40] <marius_> no thnaks
[05:40] <marius_> thanks
[05:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:40] <marius_> better :D?
[05:41] <WuMingDao> marius_, Google :)
[05:42] <loler> noob question: I installed ubuntu and then repartitioned disk. autoconfiguration still thinks that disks are in previous order and configures grub badly. How can I fix it?
[05:42] <WuMingDao> loler, partition *before* installing ???
[05:42] <loler> only way? :(
[05:42] <WuMingDao> !fix grub
[05:42] <Irayo> Any way to get KSnapshot to activate on a keypress?
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fix grub - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:43] <Jucato> Irayo: PrintScreen key
[05:43] <ypsila> WuMingDao: I thought repartinioning is possible with qtparted?
[05:43] <WuMingDao> !grub
[05:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:43] <Irayo> Jucato: :( now I feel stupid...
[05:43] <ReTyPe> or gparted
[05:43] <WuMingDao> *shrug* I don't play with the partitions after installing the OS
[05:43] <ypsila> ReTyPe: I avoid using gnome whenever possible ;-)
[05:44] <ReTyPe> gparted has it own livecd
[05:46] <ypsila> usually I do not repartion after partioning
[05:48] <draik> Sorry, ypsila and Jucato, visitor at the door.
[05:48] <draik> ypsila: Yes, USB.
[05:48] <ypsila> draik: no Problem
[05:48] <draik> Jucato: By "here" what do you mean?
[05:49] <Jucato> draik: here, as in mine, at home :)
[05:49] <draik> Jucato: Just making sure you didn't mean as in "Kubuntu will only work with 1350..."
[05:49] <elcuco> i assume no date for fiesty final ... right?
[05:49] <Jucato> ypsila: mine works out of the box, except for the card reader
[05:50] <Jucato> elcuco: April 19 still the *target* date
[05:50] <ypsila> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Hardwaredatenbank
[05:50] <elcuco> Jucato: thanks
[05:50] <Jucato> !schedule | elcuco
[05:50] <ubotu> elcuco: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:50] <Jucato> bah wrong one
[05:50] <Jucato> !feisty | elcuco
[05:50] <ubotu> elcuco: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[05:50] <draik> I want to get the HP 3210.
[05:51] <draik> But I also want to make sure that I can use many of its features
[05:51] <draik> I don't want a paperweight printer
[05:51] <ypsila> draik: have a look at the hardwaredatabase
[05:51] <draik> ypsila: Got anything in english?
[05:51] <ypsila> the link above is in german, but you should find something similar in english draik
[05:52] <ypsila> draik: got no google? ;-)
[05:52] <draik> 10-4
[05:52] <soulrider> hi everyone
[05:53] <mscheepers> Anyone have experience setting up Edgy to connect to  HP G85, shared from a WINXP machine?
[05:53] <ypsila> moin soulrider
[05:53] <soulrider> Jucato: have you noticed theres a frammar mistake in hte !schedule thing?
[05:55] <Jucato> soulrider: hm?
[05:55] <ypsila> mscheepers: I only share a printer via hub
[05:55] <Arwen> !schedule
[05:55] <Cebulon> hi
[05:55] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[05:56] <Arwen> soulrider, what? sentence fragment? cmon, it's a factoid
[05:56] <Jucato> soulrider: I don't see it.
[05:56] <mscheepers> Thanks ypsila, are you running KDE or gnome?
[05:56] <Cebulon> does someone know, how to get the "Buttons" for the virtuel Desktops back ??
[05:56] <soulrider> should iy be FROM 18 months to 5 years?
[05:57] <WuMingDao> soulrider, not if the support is only FOR 18 months
[05:57] <soulrider> or for 18 months up to 5 years
[05:57] <Jucato> soulrider: not all releases are supported for 5 years. only LTS
[05:57] <soulrider> for 18 months to 5 years just doesnt sound 100% right to me =/
[05:58] <Jucato> sounds fine to me
[05:58] <soulrider> ok
[05:58] <Jucato> Cebulon: right-click on the panel -> Add Applet to Panel -> Desktop Preview and Pager
[06:00] <Cebulon> Jucato: Thanks, I really didn't see that, i must have been blind
[06:00] <Jucato> or panicking :)
[06:01] <ypsila> can you recommend my a backup tool?
[06:01] <Cebulon> Jucato: or typically male
[06:01] <PF-Away> ypsila: keep?
[06:01] <Jucato> heh :)
[06:01] <Jucato> ypsila: funny you should ask... I'm looking for a backup tool/workflow/plan as well :)
[06:01] <ypsila> PF-Away: thx
[06:01] <PF-Away> yw
[06:02] <Jucato> but my "needs" are probably too complex :(
[06:02] <PF-Away> ypsila: it should come with kubuntu as default
[06:02] <PF-Away> Jucato: rsync?
[06:02] <ypsila> PF-Away: it was just a question in kubuntu-de
[06:02] <binks> !beryl
[06:02] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:02] <PF-Away> oh, ok
[06:02] <Jucato> PF-Away: probably... I'm still researching... something KDE would be preferred :)
[06:02] <PF-Away> Jucato: have you looked at kde-apps.org?
[06:03] <Jucato> no not yet completely, because I'm still trying to put into text what I want :)
[06:03] <PF-Away> :)
[06:03] <PF-Away> that's often the hardest bit
[06:03] <Jucato> I guess what I'm looking for is best described as a backup system + vcs :D
[06:03] <WuMingDao> Jucato, have you looked at bacula ?
[06:03] <PF-Away> :P
[06:03] <WuMingDao> granted, its not KDE ...
[06:04] <binks> anyone no how to get rid of the adept updater blob in fiesty with beryl
[06:04] <nixternal> Jucato: bazaar and a cron job + 1 script
[06:04] <Jucato> nixternal: I thought you'd be recommending some STL voodoo :D
[06:04] <nixternal> hah, STL is garbage, Qt@FTW
[06:04] <ypsila> :-D
[06:04] <Jucato> bazaar... hm... might be a good "project" to work on
[06:04] <yaccin> binks: use the official repo not the git-repo
[06:05] <Jucato> nixternal: git is an option too... :)
[06:05] <nixternal> Jucato: it is slower than SVN, but I try to support it as much as possible, and the latest release has gotten much better
[06:05] <WuMingDao> binks, purge adept from your system. :) (I'm a big fan of getting rid of it)
[06:05] <nixternal> ya, git is for kernel hackers
[06:05] <Jucato> nixternal: beryl hackers. and some other projects moving to git too :)
[06:05] <nixternal> hey hey now, Adept is getting better
[06:05] <nixternal> git is pretty old isn't it?
[06:05] <PF-Away> nixternal: how so?
[06:05] <Jucato> nixternal: it's new
[06:05] <PF-Away> git is made by the man himself
[06:05] <binks> WuMingDao: how do i do that aptitude remove adept
[06:06] <nixternal> PF-Away: mornfall and manchicken are rocking it out currently
[06:06] <WuMingDao> IHMO, dselect walks all over adept
[06:06] <PF-Away> therefore it must be good
[06:06] <liam> binks why do you want to remove it?
[06:06] <Jucato> nixternal: Linus made git to replace bitkeeper
[06:06] <binks> yaccin: i did m8
[06:06] <nixternal> Adept 3.0 I think is the next one, but that will probably be a feisty+1 release
[06:06] <nixternal> Jucato: oh ya, I remember reading about that
[06:06] <Jucato> WuMingDao: you should try the one on feisty. lots of changes and fixes
[06:06] <nixternal> I have used it once
[06:06] <manchicken> adept is rocking pretty hard.
[06:06] <nixternal> see, I told you ;p
[06:06] <Jucato> lol
[06:06] <Jucato> biases :D
[06:07] <nixternal> hehe
[06:07] <yaccin> no need for adept
[06:07] <WuMingDao> Jucato, as I've said before, I'm pretty old school still. Changing from dselect is something I'll only do if it is ever removed from Debian.
[06:07] <yaccin> theres konqueror + apt-get on konsole
[06:07] <yaccin> :P
[06:07] <Jucato> manchicken: if only there was a way to hide/show that debtag thing than no one except geeks know how to use...
[06:07] <binks> ok didnt want a war on adept just how to fix bug in kde/beryl where blob is in top l/h corner desktop
[06:07] <ypsila> :-D
[06:07] <PF-Away> yakuake + aptitude = pure pwnage
[06:07] <nixternal> yaccin: how can Konqui download and install my packages?
[06:07] <nixternal> ermm, nevermind
[06:08] <yaccin> it cant but it can search
[06:08] <nixternal> you download the .deb, right click and rock it out
[06:08] <Jucato> PF-Away: now that I now you're using those 2, I'm going to stop using them now :P
[06:08] <mike01gr> hi
[06:08] <nixternal> Adept is good for people who don't want to touch the command line
[06:08] <manchicken> I still don't care for the childish competition.
[06:08] <PF-Away> Jucato: :P
[06:08] <yaccin> i use konqueror for search and konsole for isntallation/upgrading/removal etc
[06:08] <manchicken> Use  what you like.
[06:08] <yaccin> apt://
[06:08] <manchicken> I like adept.  It's a decent program.
[06:08] <Jucato> manchicken: hehe :)
[06:08] <yaccin> in konqueror
[06:08] <Jucato> yaccin: single / :D
[06:08] <yaccin> :)
[06:08] <manchicken> Just quit bickering about it.
[06:08] <yaccin> or just one / i dont remember :D
[06:08] <yaccin> ol
[06:08] <yaccin> :D
[06:08] <yaccin> ok
[06:08] <mike01gr> i cant see streaming video on firefox ?
[06:08] <PF-Away> manchicken: you got it wrong: "use what I like"
[06:09] <PF-Away> lol
[06:09] <nixternal> yaccin: you just taught me something new with Konqui, hell I thought I knew all of the kio plugins
[06:09] <PF-Away> !away
[06:09] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:09] <PF-Away> :D :D :D
[06:09] <yaccin> nixternal: :D
[06:09] <Jucato> nixternal: you didn't know that? O.o
[06:09] <nixternal> that is Jucato's fault though
[06:09] <nixternal> no Jucato because you didn't tell me
[06:09] <nixternal> ;p
[06:09] <PF-Away> blame Jucato
[06:09] <Jucato> heh :)
[06:09] <Jucato> nixternal: don't tell me you don't know man:/ as well? :P
[06:09] <nixternal> dude, I have been going to package.ubuntu.com
[06:10] <Jucato> heh
[06:10] <nixternal> of course I know man:/ you have to when writing manpages
[06:10] <Jucato> oh but apt:/ is a kubuntu-only kioslave :(
[06:10] <yaccin> :)
[06:10] <PF-Away> i can't have apt:/ in gentoo?
[06:10] <Jucato> lol
[06:10] <nixternal> you can have poo:/ in gentoo! :p
[06:10] <binks> binks hates gentoo :0
[06:10] <nixternal> haha
[06:11] <PF-Away> man whacks wife, wife whacks kid, kid whacks dog, dog whacks cat, etc...
[06:11] <binks> cat rew into tiger ate them all lol
[06:12] <yaccin> bah gentoo
[06:12] <binks> grew^
[06:12] <PF-Away> :P
[06:13] <ypsila> boah my admin just discovered audio streaming
[06:13] <Arwen> lol
[06:15] <ypsila> Arwen: that is n o t  funny
[06:15] <Arwen> uh... the way you said it was
[06:15] <PF-Away> :P
[06:15] <ypsila> Arwen: that means he will not do his tax declaration that was planned for this weekend
[06:16] <PF-Away> ypsila: and you have to do it for him?
[06:16] <ypsila> it will take one week until he asks for another HD
[06:16] <ypsila> PF-Away: i do not do any tax declarations for him since long time
[06:16] <ypsila> thanks to the fact I do not have a wintendo :-)
[06:17] <PF-Away> ypsila: maybe he isn't whacking you enough
[06:17] <hendaus> somebody help me !!
[06:17] <draik> Jucato: ypsila: I found a site that helps with printer choices for linux.
[06:17] <BluesKaj> ypsila: for future refernce , I found this in the forums for setting the default browser in the CLI : 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser'
[06:18] <draik> How do we add the link to ubotu?
[06:18] <PF-Away> draik: ubotu remember x is y
[06:18] <hendaus> PF-Away,  wb
[06:18] <PF-Away> ty
[06:18] <hendaus> :)
[06:19] <draik> uboty remember Printer is http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[06:19] <draik> whoops
[06:19] <draik> ubotu remember Printer is http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[06:19] <PF-Away> maybe !remember
[06:19] <PF-Away> !printer
[06:19] <hendaus> i have a little question about my monitor,why my monitor doesnot switch to off if i make it 20 minutes?
[06:19] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:19] <fdoving> it's not public.
[06:20] <PF-Away> fdoving: but it gets forwarded to the owner, doesn't it?
[06:20] <draik> !remember
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remember - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <PF-Away> !remember Printer is http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[06:20] <draik> ! Printer is http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
[06:20] <draik> PF-Away: Yup, that did it
[06:20] <fdoving> PF-Away: no idea, most messages directly to ubotu are forwarded to #ubuntu-ops
[06:20] <PF-Away> fdoving: ok
[06:21] <fdoving> isn't !printing good enought?
[06:21] <draik> !printing
[06:21] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:21] <PF-Away> draik: i think the mods have to update it manually
[06:22] <fdoving> PF-Away, draik i can make changes, what's better with openprinting?
[06:22] <draik> fdoving: I'm in the market for a new printer. The issue is that I don't like the printer I have now for me. I will be putting in on the network.
[06:23] <draik> fdoving: openprinting.org shows printers that work Perfectly, Mostly, Partially or Paperweights.
[06:23] <fdoving> draik: so does http://linuxprinting.org
[06:23] <draik> fdoving: Also, it has submissions from both users and labrats.
[06:23] <endo602> can someone help me with a resolution problem
[06:23] <endo602> ?
[06:24] <fdoving> draik: so does linuxprinting.org (it's the same site)
[06:24] <draik> fdoving: I'm sorry, I didn't notice linuxprinting on the list. That was the link that took me to linuxprinting.org
[06:24] <endo602> the problem is that I modify xorg.conf to 1280x1024 but everytime i restart xserver it goes back to 1024x768
[06:25] <draik> fdoving: disregard my submission. Thank you.
[06:25] <fdoving> draik: ok. :)
[06:25] <Yrkbi-bystander> endo602, paste the results of 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log to pastebin
[06:25] <BluesKaj> ! resolution | endo602
[06:25] <ubotu> endo602: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:25] <Yrkbi-bystander> !pastebin | endo602
[06:25] <ubotu> endo602: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:25] <ypsila> endo602: edgy or feisty? are you sure you are editing the right file?
[06:26] <endo602> edgy
[06:26] <endo602> im editing /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[06:27] <draik> endo602: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg phigh
[06:27] <endo602> ive done that
[06:27] <endo602> and it doesnt change
[06:28] <endo602> i did dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[06:28] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  is there an error on edgy about swtching off the monitor after 20 minutes?
[06:29] <Yorokobi> hendaus, egdy never shut off my monitor, feisty does though (FWIW)
[06:30] <hendaus> Yorokobi,  where is that option?
[06:30] <Yorokobi> hendaus, I didn't change any options before/after upgrading. It simply started working.
[06:30] <dec_> anyone know of a good c++ app that is like visual c++ ?
[06:30] <fdoving> dec_: kdevelop maybe?
[06:31] <ypsila> Yorokobi: :-D
[06:31] <dec_> can't seem to get the hang of kdevelop
[06:31] <hendaus> Yorokobi,  i need my monitor to switch off after 20 minutes,or what ever coz sometimes i was outside from home
[06:31] <ypsila> grl
[06:32] <ypsila> Yorokobi: stop that, otherwise my screen will get a beer shower
[06:32] <dec_> anyone tried the new version of ubuntu that is out in beta
[06:32] <Yorokobi> hehe
[06:32] <hendaus> :(
[06:32] <wsjunior> is there any way to make skype looks like the others qt apps? it seems uglier than any other qt app. it doesnt used to look this way..
[06:33] <ypsila> Yorokobi: that's exactly the kind of answers I would have given
[06:33] <ryanakca> Can I install ubuntu-desktop without having GNOME apps popping up in kmenu?
[06:34] <ryanakca> ypsila: with ubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:34] <ypsila> ryanakca: simply delete them?
[06:34] <Yorokobi> ypsila, :) Its true for me, though. I push the little button and voila, its off.
[06:35] <ryanakca> I delete them from kmenu, and then I can't access them in gnome... I'd have to make two seperate accounts for ubuntu and kubuntu
[06:35] <ypsila> ryanakca: why should I ever fell installing ubuntu?
[06:35] <ypsila> Yorokobi: for me too, I like simple and efficient solutions instead of spending hours on a technical solution
[06:35] <BluesKaj> dec, yeah I tried feisty 7.04 , it broke my kernel badly ...couldn't even get back to the prompt so i had to reinstall edgy
[06:36] <ypsila> ryanakca: for what purpose?
[06:36] <ryanakca> ypsila: because if I delete the menu entry in kmenu, it's deleted in the gnome menu
[06:37] <ypsila> ryanakca: why do you need gnome and kde I meant
[06:37] <ryanakca> because... I feel like it?
[06:37] <ypsila> ah
[06:37] <ypsila> what a wonderful answer, but I never had gnome on any machine
[06:38] <ypsila> take kde and be happy
[06:38] <ryanakca> lol
[06:38] <ryanakca> I am happy with KDE
[06:38] <ypsila> first time I saw gnome, was at the chemnitz linux fair - ugly ugly ugly
[06:39] <Betzefer> sup guys any 1 need help ?
[06:40] <Yorokobi> Wildblue, eh Starwatcher ? How's satellite for an Internet connection working out for you?
[06:40] <Betzefer> any 1 know a slax chan around here ?
[06:40] <ypsila> a what?
[06:40] <ryanakca> #slackware
[06:40] <andre_> italian ??
[06:40] <Yorokobi> !it | andre_
[06:40] <ubotu> andre_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:41] <Betzefer>  slackware :That channel doesn't exist
[06:41] <Betzefer> any other ideas ?
[06:41] <ryanakca> ##slackware , sorry
[06:41] <ypsila> Betzefer: google for it?
[06:41] <ryanakca> Betzefer: /cs info ##slackware
[06:42] <wolferine> can I get a good tutorial on understanding groups/users/permissions, in a samba environment, with examples?
[06:42] <Betzefer> thanks guys
[06:42] <ryanakca> wolferine: yes. I don't know where though :)
[06:42] <ypsila> how helpless can one be?
[06:42] <wolferine> ryanakca, you know a thing or two about it?
[06:42] <ryanakca> umm... slightly
[06:43] <ryanakca> I've messed around with it... haven't managed to get it working on feisty yet though
[06:43] <wolferine> ryanakca, if I want to share a remote drive (on my server), I want to mount it, but if its another mount point on my system, i should just use ln?
[06:43] <ryanakca> ah. No clue
[06:44] <ryanakca> !samba | wolferine
[06:44] <ubotu> wolferine: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:44] <ryanakca> I think that might be of some help
[06:44] <wolferine> hmmm
[06:44] <wolferine> SWAT
[06:44] <wolferine> doesnt work on my system
[06:44] <ryanakca> no?
[06:44] <wolferine> yes, no
[06:45] <ryanakca> well, the links might be of some help.
[06:45] <ryanakca> I dunno
[06:45] <wolferine> i think they are geared more towards a windows "help" guide
[06:45] <Yorokobi> ryanakca, I think that, between wolferine and aaroncampbell, the content of each of those links can be quoted from memory. They've been struggling with samba for a few days now.
[06:46] <BluesKaj> swat ain't for noobs ...it's written in bloody riddles and the nomenclature is for all intents and purposes unintelligable ,
[06:46] <wolferine> Yorokobi, i did manage to resolve yesterdays issue
[06:46] <Yorokobi> congratulation wolferine
[06:46] <wolferine> seems that editing fstab, well, required more time for it to "kick-in"
[06:46] <Yorokobi> *congratulations, even
[06:47] <wolferine> as for my question before, I guess I just need to use ln?
[06:47] <wolferine> for a local mount?
[06:47] <ace> Hi all
[06:47] <BluesKaj> By the time someone figures out what the swat instructions actually mean he's prolly got samba set up just by fooling with it  :)
[06:47] <ryanakca> Yorokobi: lol, umm... using kubuntu... tried KControl?
[06:48] <aaroncampbell> Yorokobi: I'll second that
[06:48] <ypsila> lunch? I will have dinner
[06:48] <wolferine> thanks man
[06:48] <ryanakca> I'll be back and try to help you later
[06:48] <wolferine> ill get it soon
[06:48] <wolferine> then ill be helping everyone :)
[06:48] <aaroncampbell> although, I can get it working fine...just not with AND without authentication at the same time
[06:49] <BluesKaj> what's the samba error aaroncampbell ?
[06:50] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: no error really, I just want one share that requires authentication (like security=user), and one that does NOT (like security=share)
[06:50] <Yorokobi> ryanakca, why would I use kcontrol?
[06:50] <aaroncampbell> but since security is a global parameter, I can't seem to do both
[06:51] <BluesKaj> bummer.. aaroncampbell, are you in an office LAN  ?
[06:52] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: yes
[06:52] <BluesKaj> ok
[06:52] <myTB|Tanuva> which graphical ftp client would you recommend?
[06:53] <wolferine> myTB|Tanuva, filezilla
[06:53] <aaroncampbell> myTB|Tanuva: I prefer Filezilla.
[06:53] <NamShub> konqueror? :)
[06:53] <BluesKaj> I had a suggestion , but security being an issue in your case,  then it wouldn't be advisable :)
[06:53] <wolferine> :P
[06:53] <myTB|Tanuva> hmm
[06:53] <myTB|Tanuva> I searched for kbear but didnt find anything. didnt know theres a filezilla for linux .D
[06:54] <aaroncampbell> BluesKaj: what exactly?
[06:54] <wolferine> now you do :)
[06:54] <myTB|Tanuva> yep
[06:54] <abortd> you looking for a torrent program?
[06:54] <aaroncampbell> myTB|Tanuva: it's pretty new to linux...I think Beta 7
[06:54] <myTB|Tanuva> ah
[06:55] <myTB|Tanuva> but beta doesnt mean something really bad on linux systems.... :)
[06:55] <BluesKaj> it's a global cmnd i believe but here goes : 'sudo chmod u-s /usr/bin/smbmount'
[06:55] <abortd> myTB|Tanuva, you looking for torrent programs or p2p?
[06:55] <myTB|Tanuva> ftp
[06:55] <abortd> oh
[06:55] <myTB|Tanuva> and btw aaroncampbell: its v3.0.0-beta6 actually :)
[06:55] <abortd> what i do when i cant find software i just get the windows version
[06:56] <myTB|Tanuva> depends on the software
[06:56] <abortd> utorrent in wine is great
[06:56] <aaroncampbell> myTB|Tanuva: in Feisty it's 3.0.0-Beta7
[06:56] <myTB|Tanuva> why dont you just use ktorrent?
[06:56] <abortd> ktorrent sucks
[06:56] <BluesKaj> abortd: you have to look around for more repos that contain more pakgs , it's abit of work but rewarding
[06:57] <abortd> but i run ubuntu not kub :P
[06:57] <myTB|Tanuva> hmm.. its not in the edgy repos, downloading from the homepage
[06:57] <abortd> ok off to work i go u all have fun
[06:58] <aaroncampbell> myTB|Tanuva: if beta6 works, just use it.
[06:58] <ypsila> ktorrent works
[06:58] <aaroncampbell> at least...that's what I'd do
[06:59] <myTB|Tanuva> lol... my beta6 (downloaded from the project site) just wants to update to beta7 - so I just let it do
[07:00] <myTB|Tanuva> arr... I should work on using 'just' not too much times :D
[07:00] <ypsila> maybe there are no alphas at all :-)
[07:00] <myTB|Tanuva> or they dont get released to the public
[07:01] <akrus> could someone tell me what's up with Synaptic if there're lots of icons missing? :o
[07:01] <Hail_Spacecake> my internet conneciton is down
[07:01] <Hail_Spacecake> so I had to download some .deb packages on another computer and transfer them
[07:02] <Hail_Spacecake> rather than installing them with synaptic directly
[07:02] <Hail_Spacecake> so now that I have them, how do I install them?
[07:02] <ryanakca> Yorokobi: because it has a samba module
[07:03] <ryanakca> or no, ypsila ^^
[07:03] <ryanakca> or no, wolferine,
[07:03] <ryanakca> who was it that needed help with samba?
[07:03] <ryanakca> aaroncampbell and wolferine?
[07:03] <ypsila> ryanakca: I didn't follow, there is a samba module I think, at least I have one installed
[07:03] <Levo_75> Hai guys
[07:04] <aaroncampbell> ryanakca: yes?
[07:04] <ryanakca> ypsila: ignore that
[07:04] <wolferine> ryanakca, ?
[07:04] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: which part you're from?
[07:04] <ryanakca> you were the two who have memorized the samba manual?
[07:04] <ypsila> ryanakca: no problem, I use samba too
[07:04] <Yorokobi> ryanakca, I don't use samba
[07:05] <ypsila> ryanakca: but I do not rembember ever having had problems with it
[07:05] <wolferine> i didnt state that I memorized the manual
[07:05] <wolferine> why though?
[07:05] <ryanakca> nevermind
[07:05] <aaroncampbell> ryanakca: Just went through a fair bit of trouble trying to make it do something it doesn't seem to do...but I set it up a lot in the process
[07:05] <ryanakca> [12:45:50]  <Yorokobi> ryanakca, I think that, between wolferine and aaroncampbell, the content of each of those links can be quoted from memory. They've been struggling with samba for a few days now.
[07:05] <ryanakca> [12:48:28]  <ryanakca> I'll be back and try to help you later
[07:05] <Yorokobi> ryanakca, that was a By way of information
[07:06] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: ??? still here?
[07:06] <Pollywog> what do I need to install to use FISH in Konqueror, besides the kio stuff?
[07:06] <ryanakca> oh, nevermind
[07:06] <Pollywog> Edgy btw
[07:07] <Hail_Spacecake> how do you install a bare .deb file?
[07:07] <Hail_Spacecake> without synaptic?
[07:07] <ryanakca> Pollywog: nothiing  idon't think...
[07:07] <aaroncampbell> ryanakca: I just wanted one share that requires authentication (like security=user), and one that does NOT (like security=share)...but since security is a global parameter, I can't seem to do both
[07:07] <ryanakca> Hail_Spacecake: dpkg -i foobar.deb
[07:07] <Pollywog> ryanakca: thanks, I don't know why it is not working then
[07:08] <ryanakca> Pollywog: hmm...
[07:08] <Cebulon> Question, when will "Send File" be implemented in Kopete ?? (or do i need s.th. else)
[07:08] <ryanakca> Pollywog: just a sec, I'll search
[07:08] <ryanakca> Cebulon: it already is implemented.
[07:08] <ryanakca> Chat window -> File ... somewheres
[07:08] <ryanakca> iirc
[07:08] <Cebulon> ryanakca: its greyed out
[07:09] <ryanakca> ah.. .hmm...
[07:09] <Pollywog> okay I upgraded the kio packages, maybe now it will work
[07:10] <ryanakca> Cebulon: just a sec, I'll get you a screenie
[07:10] <Cebulon> ryanakca: BTW:its Chat window -> "Other Actions -> Send File"
[07:10] <ryanakca> ah... different here
[07:11] <ryanakca> Cebulon: Chat -> Contacts -> <Contact's name> -> Send file...
[07:11] <Cebulon> ryanakca: Kopete 0.12.4 KDE 3.5.6
[07:11] <ryanakca> Cebulon: kopete 0.12.4
[07:11] <ryanakca> same here
[07:12] <Cebulon> ryanakca: its greyed out / same for "Send E-Mail"
[07:12] <neil__> Anyone know how I can burn a VIDEO_TS folder as a playable dvd video? I've just got tovid installed and working...
[07:13] <ryanakca> Cebulon: what protocol? does it support send-file?
[07:13] <wolferine> neil__, you want to use kmediafactory
[07:13] <wolferine> that will make your menus
[07:14] <neil__> Damn, can't do it in tovid? Just installed a hell load of dependencies so it works.
[07:14] <wolferine> well, you can do it with tovid
[07:14] <Cebulon> ryanakca: i donno, sorry, do i have to install sth else
[07:14] <wolferine> but you can see it more with kmedia
[07:14] <wolferine> let me grab the tutorial
[07:14] <neil__> thanks wolferine
[07:17] <splunge> I'm having trouble with the initial boot of a new install of edgy on a Dell Dimension 8200, it looks like the initramfs' /dev directory has no block devices, and I cannot modprobe piix nor ide_disk from busybox. Anyone know what the deal is?
[07:17] <Cebulon> ryanakca: protocoll: u mean ICQ for ex.
[07:18] <splunge> BTW, I'm a redhat user that's interested in switching, but I'm completely new to the ubuntu/debian world.
[07:18] <Cebulon> splungs: i changed from redhat to kubuntu: its different but better, believe me
[07:19] <ypsila> splunge: welcome to the club ;-)
[07:19] <splunge> I've googled, checked faq's and known problems, etc. but not seen this exact problem described.
[07:19] <wolferine> neil__, having to look in my history gve me a sec
[07:19] <Yorokobi> splunge, this is for an install or a LiveCD ?
[07:20] <neil__> no worries, much appreciated :)
[07:21] <Cebulon> ryanakca: protocoll: u still there
[07:21] <splunge> Yorokobi, I've installed this one. The LiveCD boots fine. The modules I mentioned above, that I think I need, was obtained by diffing what I see from lsmod on the LiveCD.
[07:22] <splunge> Does the live CD boot from a different initramfs than the HD install?
[07:22] <ryanakca> Cebulon: back, sorry, mom wanted me to wash the toilet
[07:23] <ryanakca> Cebulon: MSN, ICQ, Jabber, AIM, etc
[07:23] <nate_> whats the command for logging into root in the termanal ?
[07:23] <ryanakca> !sudo | nate_
[07:23] <ubotu> nate_: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:24] <splunge> nate_, if you want a root shell, try "sudo bash"
[07:24] <ryanakca> or sudo -i
[07:24] <Yorokobi> or sudo -s or sudo -i
[07:24] <wolferine> sorry neil__ i cannot find it
[07:24] <chuen> Hi. I'm getting the following error when trying to empty the trash can: Access denied to /home/haelen/.local/share/Trash/files/gnomad_install/gnomad2-2.8.10/doc-pak/AUTHORS.
[07:24] <Cebulon> ryanakca: protocoll: it is ICQ
[07:24] <neil__> wolferine : No worries, ill have a dig around
[07:24] <chuen> Not sure why, or how to resolve it.
[07:25] <ryanakca> Cebulon: does ICQ usually support file transfers?
[07:25] <Hail_Spacecake> what's the difference between linux-headers-2.6.15-27 and linux-headers-2.6.15-27 -386?
[07:26] <Cebulon> In windows and original ICQ it does (at least my daughter keeps telling me)
[07:26] <Yorokobi> Hail_Spacecake, the first is a meta package, the second is an actual package
[07:26] <ryanakca> Cebulon: /msg me your ICQ # and I'll see if it works here...
[07:28] <Freddy2> hi
[07:28] <splunge> so this boot problem has me flustered. If I boot recovery without changes, the first error I see is /init: 126 mountroot: not found.
[07:29] <splunge> So I tried adding boot=local to the arglist in grub, so that init sources scripts/local, and that gets me farther..
[07:29] <ryanakca> [13:28:55]  <kedge> ryanakca: ICQ file transfer is only in trunk
[07:29] <ryanakca> [13:29:11]  <kedge> ryanakca: and will be in KDE4
[07:29] <Yorokobi> Hail_Spacecake, I rescind my comment. "linux-headers-2.6.17-11 - Header files related to Linux kernel version 2.6.17" "linux-headers-2.6.17-10-386 - Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.17 on i386" They are two separate packages. What's the diff? I'm not sure ... -i386 may have 80x386 optimizations.
[07:29] <ryanakca> Cebulon: ^^, sorry
[07:29] <hanzz> omg... how can i activate two networks in one time with knetworkmanager?
[07:30] <ryanakca> I know it works with the MSN protocol though...
[07:30] <hanzz> sorry for little that i'm little bit rude...
[07:30] <Hail_Spacecake> yorokobi: I'm trying to install ndiswrapper
[07:30] <Cebulon> i read that in google
[07:30] <Hail_Spacecake> and it says I need to make a link from one of those to /lib/modules/VERSION/build
[07:30] <Hail_Spacecake> so which one should I use?
[07:31] <Cebulon> ryanakca: actually, has it ever worked ??
[07:31] <Yorokobi> Hail_Spacecake, which kernel are you using? (uname -r)
[07:31] <Hail_Spacecake> 2.6.15-27-386
[07:31] <splunge> but when adding boot=local on the arglist, I get to Waiting for root file system... until that times out, and I find myself with a /dev full of ttys etc. but no hda*.
[07:31] <Yorokobi> Hail_Spacecake, then use the -i386 linux-headers package / location
[07:32] <Hail_Spacecake> kk
[07:32] <Yorokobi> splunge, have you tried boot=/dev/hda (or is that the grub default?)
[07:32] <Cebulon> BTW, had s.o. problems with latest updates-> here kernel 2.6.20-14, it breaks X here
[07:33] <Cebulon> missing kernel module for nvidia
[07:33] <ryanakca> Cebulon: file transfer for msn in kopete?
[07:33] <Yorokobi> boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hda1 (assuming / is mounted on /dev/hda1)
[07:33] <Cebulon> ryanakca: actually, has it ever worked ?? For ICQ ...
[07:33] <ryanakca> dunno
[07:34] <splunge> Yorokobi, I think that the /dev/hdaN parameter would normally be root=/dev/hda1 (or in my case, root=/dev/hda5)
[07:34] <Cebulon> ryanakca: did u get my number
[07:34] <ryanakca> nope
[07:35] <ryanakca> Pollywog: working?
[07:35] <dwidmann> ugggh :( Seems like samba in feisty doesn't want to work
[07:35] <Yorokobi> splunge, is grub using the MBR of /dev/hda ? If so boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hda5 *should* work ... unless initramfs is hosed ...
[07:35] <hanzz> ok.. so is here any way how can i use two network interfaces with knetworkmanager at the same time?
[07:37] <Cebulon> ryanakca: 1413816
[07:38] <ypsila> hanzz: to connect to two different networks or what do you mean?
[07:40] <nate_> can anyone help me with this? "snes9x: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared objects" ?
[07:40] <hanzz> ypsila: i have one interface for connection to the internet and one for LAN connection... a i want to have these two internfaces "up" at once
[07:40] <hanzz> but in knetworkmanager i can only choose one of these two interfaces :)
[07:41] <samandbeth> hey everyone
[07:42] <Arwen> hello
[07:42] <Levo_75> Hai
[07:42] <splunge> Yorokobi, I tried root=/dev/hda5 boot=/dev/hda, and I get /init: .: Can't open scripts//dev/hda  -- based on my reading of the initramfs the boot param there is only used to source a script. That's why I tried boot=local, since scripts/local seemed to have the missing definition of mountroot()
[07:42] <samandbeth> Can anyone answer a question for me?
[07:42] <nate_> can anyone help me with this? "snes9x: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared objects" ?
[07:43] <Arwen> nate_, do you have libstdc++5 installed?
[07:43] <samandbeth> Everytime I download a Binary it opens in kate and won't let me save,
[07:43] <ypsila> hanzz: I have one eth0 and one wireless, I used Kmenu, system settings, network as far as I remember
[07:43] <nate_> i dont believe i do
[07:43] <Arwen> install it
[07:43] <leafw> I have just dist-upgraded from edgy to feisty and I don't have a laptop battery icon on the systray. Anybody knows which app is actually running it?
[07:43] <nate_> what command would i use ?
[07:43] <Yorokobi> splunge, Its at this point that I would reinstall. I'm not familiar enough with the inner workings of initramfs to be able to suggest a fix
[07:43] <Arwen> nate_, "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5"
[07:43] <hanzz> ypsila: i have feisty... and there is some change... i think
[07:44] <hanzz> i updated to feisty yesterday
[07:44] <nate_> k
[07:44] <ypsila> hanzz: feisty -> ubuntu#1
[07:44] <ypsila> ubuntu+1
[07:44] <Arwen> nate_, if you got snes9x from Ubuntu's repositories, you should already have it, so that's an odd error
[07:44] <Levo_75> What does feisty have over dapper drake?
[07:45] <Yorokobi> Levo_75, newer versions of everything
[07:45] <c1|freaky> Levo_75: bugfixes, newer versions, many improvements and so on :)
[07:45] <liam> levo, it has an awesome name!
[07:45] <ypsila> Yorokobi: and bugs you never dreamt of if you are unlucky
[07:45] <Levo_75> Theh why am i using dapper drake?
[07:45] <Arwen> Levo_75, new stuff....
[07:45] <Yorokobi> ypsila, aye, ergo: beta
[07:45] <Levo_75> Thanx liam
[07:45] <ypsila> Levo_75: because your system is running!
[07:45] <Arwen> Levo_75, because your CD was sent through shipit? or because you want Long Term Support?
[07:45] <nate_> is used the apt-get install snes9x command to get snes express
[07:46] <splunge> Yorokobi, I doubt the result would be different on a reinstall. This is a complete fresh install from the DVD. Is there an alternate install CD with a different initramfs, or is there a way to boot live and update the HD's kernel version using dpkg?
[07:46] <Levo_75> I downloaded my cd and burned it to a disc
[07:46] <samandbeth> does anyone know why when I get packages from the Ubuntu site, they say that I can't save because its a binary and may be corrupted?
[07:46] <nate_> its downloading the files now though soo ill recheck and see
[07:46] <Arwen> hmm... nate_ try this command "locate libstdcc++.so.5" after apt is done
[07:46] <Arwen> see if it can find the missing file
[07:46] <samandbeth> It's opening them all in Kate
[07:46] <ypsila> Yorokobi: I do not understand that, why would I try some "experimental" when already stucking on stuff like nvidia or wlan?
[07:47] <Yorokobi> splunge, there is an alternate install CD (and DVD?) ISO available
[07:47] <ypsila> not knowing what a partition is ............
[07:47] <splunge> I guess I could boot live, chroot to /dev/hda5, and try to update that partition's boot kernel with apt-get, right? Has anyone tried that?
[07:48] <nate_> arwen that command you gaved me worked and the emulator is running fine, how do i install gamepads (usb)?
[07:48] <Arwen> nate_, don't know
[07:48] <Levo_75> http://ftw.generation.no/?n=1502
[07:48] <Yorokobi> splunge, its worth a shot. I've never run into the problem you're having.
[07:49] <splunge> Yorokobi, thanks a ton. I'm gonna try the chroot approach, then the CD approach. I'll report my results later just in case you're interested.
[07:50] <Yorokobi> splunge, I'll probably be gone by then. I'm taking off on a short, 4 hour, road trip in 10 minutes :)
[07:50] <liam> ypsila, what problems are you having with wlan?
[07:50] <splunge> short == 4 hours?? heh I thought my commute was bad.
[07:51] <Yorokobi> splunge, It beats the occasional 10 hour trips I've made
[07:51] <liam> i cant even drive :)
[07:51] <splunge> I think that's too big, and I'm from Texas.
[07:51] <BluesKaj> someone has been trying to talk me into installing gentoo ....is it as difficult as they say , been using linux for a yr now
[07:51] <pollyo> Hello
[07:51] <Yorokobi> LA -> SLC == 10 hours non-stop
[07:52] <pollyo> Hello
[07:52] <liam> hello pollyo
[07:52] <Yorokobi> anyway, bonum fortunam splunge
[07:52] <bronze_1_9> BluesKaj: let your choice of Linux distro be guided by what you like to do with computers.
[07:52] <splunge> Thanks, Yorokobi, flip off SCO headquarters for me while you're there.
[07:52] <pollyo> Anyone know if they have a program like dvdshrink?  A friend of mine has that for backing up his DVD's under windows.
[07:52] <Yorokobi> splunge, its on the way, I will do so.
[07:53] <bronze_1_9> BluesKaj:  Are you into playing with computers to do computer stuff?
[07:53] <Yorokobi> gladly
[07:53] <nate_> does anyone know how to install usb gamepads in kbuntu ?
[07:54] <pollyo> nate_: Isn't there a package for gamepads?
[07:54] <BluesKaj> bronze_1_9:  sort of , I'm retired with time on my hands and trying learn as much as i can as i go along I guess
[07:54] <nate_> i was looking in the repos and couldnt find any
[07:55] <bronze_1_9> BluesKaj: is there something specific you want to get done or have your system do?
[07:55] <pollyo> Anyone know of a site like partpoker.com that will work with linux?
[07:56] <BluesKaj> well, right now i'd like to get my ATI IXP sound card spdif digital out working in kubuntu ...it works fine in windows
[07:56] <liam> should do pollyp
[07:56] <pollyo> liam: What do you mean?
[07:57] <bronze_1_9> BluesKaj: heh, well ,thats probably equal in both ubuntu and grntoo. :)
[07:57] <BluesKaj> yeah, I suspect it's the crappy ATI support that's the cause
[07:58] <sivaji> what is the difference betwenn apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[08:00] <pollyo> sivaji: I **think** that update checks for updates while upgrade actually upgrades the packages that you have installed.
[08:00] <sivaji> thank u pollyo
[08:00] <pollyo> sivaji: Have you tried the the man page for apt-get?
[08:01] <wolferine> when I do this: ln -s /media/hda5/FTP FTP/ (in my ~), I have to cd into FTP/FTP to access the files, can I do it so that I just have to cd FTP ?
[08:02] <pollyo> sivaji: Open up a Konsole window and type "man apt-get" it will explain the different options.
[08:02] <ace> hi all
[08:02] <wolferine> hey ace
[08:02] <pollyo> Anyone know an online poker site that works with linux?  Something like partypoker or fulltiltpoker?
[08:02] <ace> what packages do i need to compile a kde theme?
[08:03] <sivaji> sometime i get error report that process for  system / file / media  protocol died unexpectedly i cant open any file or directory if i get this
[08:03] <wolferine> ace are any working?
[08:03] <wolferine> or its not setup at al?
[08:03] <wolferine> all*
[08:04] <ace> i want to install a style from kde-look on a fresh install of feisty
[08:04] <wolferine> and you can configure themes though right?
[08:05] <ace> yea
[08:05] <nate_> could some one help me get my ps3 controllers to work in kubuntu(ps3)
[08:05] <ace> i need to know the dev packages i need to install
[08:06] <ace> you can use a ps3 controller in linux?
[08:06] <ace> sounds fun
[08:06] <wolferine> well use Synaptic to install it
[08:06] <wolferine> or whatever the KDE version of it is
[08:06] <ace> but which packages?
[08:06] <nate_> ya i got linux installed on my ps3 :o
[08:06] <wolferine> do a search on theme
[08:07] <wolferine> ace, i am a bit suprised its not already on there
[08:07] <pollyo> nate_: Are they bltooth controllers?
[08:07] <ace> oh is it, i thought you had to install it
[08:07] <nate_> they are
[08:08] <ace> oh right, i was wondering how you can get a ps3 controller plugged into a computer
[08:08] <nate_> but im using the usb cord
[08:08] <wolferine> when I do this: ln -s /media/hda5/FTP FTP/ (in my ~), I have to cd into FTP/FTP to access the files, can I do it so that I just have to cd FTP ?
[08:08] <ant_ipop> can someone check this log and tell me why my system freezes ? (while downloading this happens!) http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8971/
[08:09] <nate_> :(
[08:10] <wolferine> ant_ipop, where did that output come from?
[08:10] <ant_ipop> wolferine: thats syslog from ksystemlogviewer or whatever
[08:11] <wolferine> 1717	06.04.2007 20:05:13 localhost kdm_greet[5363]  Internal error: memory corruption detected
[08:11] <wolferine> that maybe?
[08:11] <wolferine> run memtest
[08:11] <ant_ipop> yup, that means my ram is damaged ?
[08:12] <wolferine> i am not memtest
[08:12] <ant_ipop> how long should i run this memtest ?
[08:12] <wolferine> so I cannot tell you
[08:12] <wolferine> ant_ipop, just run it
[08:12] <PhinnFort> ant_ipop: at least one session
[08:12] <PhinnFort> ant_ipop: i'd let it run overnight if I where you
[08:12] <ant_ipop> isnt this a endless test ?
[08:12] <wolferine> yes
[08:12] <wolferine> but it does do 100% of your system
[08:13] <wolferine> then it re-cycles
[08:13] <ant_ipop> can the ram be damaged when i set wrong values in bios ?
[08:13] <wolferine> ant_ipop, try the test first
[08:13] <wolferine> then come back
[08:13] <ant_ipop> 1 hour ?
[08:13] <wolferine> im sure it will be the issue
[08:13] <wolferine> 100%
[08:13] <wolferine> run it until 100%
[08:14] <ant_ipop> ok, see you later guys
[08:14] <nate_> lost
[08:14] <wolferine> when I do this: ln -s /media/hda5/FTP FTP/ (in my ~), I have to cd into FTP/FTP to access the files, can I do it so that I just have to cd FTP ?
[08:17] <x3m-tux> hi
[08:17] <henry_> hello
[08:18] <x3m-tux> have som equestions abaut laptop
[08:18] <henry_> sorry not much of expert ther but my laptop loaded no problem
[08:19] <x3m-tux> english  or what language you talk?
[08:19] <henry_> English
[08:19] <x3m-tux> ok i have one Thinkpad T42 running on kubuntu 7.04
[08:20] <nrg88> does anyone know how to create diff files? (for a patch)
[08:20] <henry_> I am still running 6.1-
[08:20] <x3m-tux> ok
[08:20] <PhinnFort> !feisty | x3m-tux
[08:20] <ubotu> x3m-tux: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:21] <x3m-tux> im searching for some one ho can X well
[08:21] <henry_> i dont know much about new languages but old diff under pdp11 was just run with two input files and 4rd file came out
[08:22] <x3m-tux> ok i have monitor problems here :-(
[08:22] <henry_> yes I know beta is out but my connection was slow in bioondocs
[08:22] <x3m-tux> i have beta
[08:22] <henry_> does it work well for you >>>>
[08:23] <x3m-tux> yes al are running on my laptop ..at least to 99%
[08:23] <henry_> very good to hear I will love that
[08:24] <x3m-tux> i have laptop and blutooth and al runs well
[08:24] <x3m-tux> only problems whit the tft
[08:24] <henry_> I was programmer back in 1990
[08:25] <henry_> asm mostly
[08:25] <x3m-tux> ok and you ended that work
[08:26] <henry_> yes retired now did some old work on defense info system back in 1968
[08:26] <x3m-tux> the thing whit my tft problem is thet the tft emulate 1024x768 in real it's 800x600
[08:26] <henry_> retired in 100-
[08:26] <henry_> 1990
[08:27] <x3m-tux> ok and you are from?
[08:27] <henry_> was working for company called Tektronix
[08:27] <henry_> Beaverton Or then now full time RVer
[08:27] <x3m-tux> ok
[08:28] <PhinnFort> the only ASM i know, is what I've learnt from playing droidbattles
[08:28] <x3m-tux> i need find some other forum
[08:28] <CELSO> mineiro ola
[08:28] <henry_> I knew ASM for IBM 350 PDP11 etc
[08:28] <mineiro> ol
[08:29] <CELSO> tc de onde
[08:29] <hendaus> somebody help me please!
[08:29] <henry_> any knowledge of inner workings is useful
[08:29] <mineiro> lx
[08:29] <PhinnFort> !es
[08:29] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:29] <hyper_ch> !question | hendaus
[08:29] <ubotu> hendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:29] <CELSO> estou no brasil curitiba
[08:30] <mineiro> porreiro
[08:30] <PhinnFort> !droidbattles
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about droidbattles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  thanx,but i download a .rm file and cannot open with kaffeine
[08:30] <PhinnFort> !info droidbattles
[08:30] <ubotu> droidbattles: A game of programming battle droids. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 302 kB, installed size 1220 kB
[08:31] <mineiro> anybody here suceceed in installing smc2862w-g in feisty?
[08:31] <mineiro> its an usb wifi dongle
[08:31] <henry_> I need to leave goodby
[08:31] <CELSO> conhece bem os comandos do kde 3.5
[08:32] <tuco> Hi all I need helo with Beryl
[08:32] <PhinnFort> bye
[08:32] <mineiro> no,  a primeira vez q instalei o kubuntu
[08:32] <PhinnFort> !br
[08:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:32] <CELSO> estou trabalhando numa rede onde meu acesso a internet esta bloqueado, sabe alguma maneira de tentar burlar o sistema
[08:32] <hyper_ch> hendaus: you tried vlc?
[08:33] <mineiro> nop
[08:33] <laurent_> hello there
[08:33] <hyper_ch> !por | CELSO
[08:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about por - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:33] <hyper_ch> !br | CELSO
[08:33] <ubotu> CELSO: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:33] <CELSO> ok
[08:33] <laurent_> I've found a bug that is related to my sd card reader, under kubuntu 7.04 beta.
[08:33] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  yes i have vlc, but always when i want to open it with kaffeine
[08:33] <PhinnFort> ubotu is a language genius
[08:34] <PhinnFort> laurent_: elaborate?
[08:34] <laurent_> The bug is inexistant with kernel 2.6.20-12 but appears in relaese 2.6.20-13 and 2.6.20-14
[08:34] <laurent_> the chipset is:
[08:34] <PhinnFort> laurent_: what happens?
[08:35] <laurent_> her ... something like I/O error
[08:35] <hyper_ch> hendaus: right-click it and select alternative app for opening
[08:35] <laurent_> bad block
[08:35] <PhinnFort> laurent_: sure it isn't a bad block?;)
[08:35] <laurent_> no because I'm currently under 2.6.20-12 and it just works...
[08:36] <PhinnFort> hm
[08:36] <PhinnFort> bugs.launchpad.net
[08:36] <laurent_> ok
[08:36] <laurent_> I was wondering where to go to report it ! :)
[08:36] <mscheepers> anyone know how to connect to a printer that has been shared from a WINXP machine?
[08:36] <laurent_> I've got another little bug...
[08:36] <Arwen> mscheepers, samba
[08:36] <tuco> Folks I need help with Beryl please.
[08:37] <PhinnFort> laurent_: remember to search first
[08:37] <PhinnFort> !beryl | tuco
[08:37] <ubotu> tuco: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:37] <Arwen> tuco, #beryl or #ubuntu-effects or just ask
[08:37] <laurent_> Since last 7.04beta update the boot process is freezed.
[08:37] <hyper_ch> !question | tuco
[08:37] <ubotu> tuco: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:37] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  xine message from kaffeine --> A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so
[08:37] <laurent_> ok I'll check at bug.launcgpaad
[08:37] <PhinnFort> !printer | mscheepers
[08:37] <ubotu> mscheepers: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:37] <hyper_ch> hendaus: did you rigth-click and tried open with vlc?
[08:37] <dec_> where can i get the new version of ubunut 7 and install from edgy
[08:37] <mineiro> anybody here suceceed in installing smc2862w-g (usb wireless card) in feisty? ive been trying with no sucess..
[08:38] <apokryphos> dec_: /msg ubotu feisty
[08:38] <PhinnFort> !repeat | mineiro
[08:38] <ubotu> mineiro: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:38] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  yes it opens with vlc, but how should i make all to open with vlc?
[08:38] <mineiro> ok,sorry
[08:38] <PhinnFort> mineiro: what exactly is the problem
[08:38] <hyper_ch> hendaus: but it didn't play it?
[08:39] <dec_> what do you mean by msg ubuntu feisty
[08:39] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  why
[08:39] <PhinnFort> !feisty | dec_
[08:39] <ubotu> dec_: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[08:39] <tuco> This ask to ask makes no sense really. I asked for help no? Ah well Ubotu is having the Easter moods :-)
[08:39] <canYOUhelp> ok memcheck is at 45% no errors yet. i need a helping hand configuring bios-ram-settings: its 2x Kingston KVR400X64C3A/512
[08:39] <mscheepers> ubotu - Thanks!
[08:39] <ubotu> thanks! is <alias> thanks - added by bimberi on 2006-11-10 04:34:55
[08:39] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  i plyed it with vlc
[08:39] <PhinnFort> mscheepers: he's a bot;)
[08:39] <hyper_ch> hendaus: so it works with vlc?
[08:39] <dec_> can i install the beta from edgy
[08:39] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  but the icon is kaffeine
[08:39] <tuco> I have been looking at the wiki and stuff, but I have no idea where to start to install Beryl.
[08:39] <hyper_ch> hendaus: then close and open it and say always to open with vlc
[08:39] <mineiro> i found some guides in forums, using ndiswrapper, and i can install the smc driver throught ndiswrapper, but it seems it isnt recognizing the device
[08:40] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  ok where is the option always to open it with vlc?
[08:41] <hyper_ch> hendaus: dunno, have not kde installed
[08:41] <mineiro> id like to add that in kinfo center, the usb device is not listed
[08:41] <hyper_ch> but right click it and select vlc and very likely there's some kind of check box that you can assign .rm files permanently to vlc
[08:41] <hendaus> hyper_ch,  lol
[08:41] <dec_> anyone know how to install the beta 7 from within edgy
[08:41] <hyper_ch> dec_: beta 7?
[08:42] <dec_> beta of feisty
[08:42] <hyper_ch> dec_: open your sources.list
[08:42] <hyper_ch> dec_: replace edgy by feisty
[08:42] <hyper_ch> dec_: update the sources and do a dist-upgrade
[08:42] <hyper_ch> dec_: but depending on what you have done on your system you may break it
[08:42] <dec_> how do you update the sources
[08:42] <PhinnFort> dec_: please see the topic, it's a nice tool to do it for you
[08:42] <PhinnFort> dec_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[08:42] <hyper_ch> dec_: if you have enough place you could parallel install it
[08:43] <magenspueler> hi...
[08:43] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  do u have kde installed/
[08:43] <PhinnFort> hendaus: yeah
[08:43] <PhinnFort> hendaus: how?
[08:44] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  i have a .rm file and it doesnot open with kaffeine but with vlc
[08:44] <PhinnFort> hendaus: well, maybe VLC uses a newer version of libavifile or whatever codec thingy Xine uses
[08:44] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  is there a way to open with kaffeine?
[08:44] <Arwen> hendaus, your .rm file opens in vlc? amazing....
[08:45] <PhinnFort> hendaus: probably not
[08:45] <hendaus> yes it opens with vlc
[08:45] <hendaus> but everytime when i click the file it opens with kaffeine
[08:46] <hyper_ch> Arwen: vlc plays just about everything... I was surprised the other day that it played quicktime 8 or 9 videos
[08:46] <PhinnFort> hendaus: hit alt+f2 and type "kcontrol"
[08:46] <PhinnFort> search for "file asso"
[08:46] <hendaus> ok
[08:46] <Arwen> hyper_ch, bah, quicktime's been reverse engineered since forever, my vlc doesn't play on2vp6...
[08:46] <malik> hi can any one tell mehow to access floppy in kubuntu?
[08:47] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  done, then
[08:47] <hyper_ch> Arwen: I couldn't play it at university as an older quicktime version is installed there
[08:48] <Arwen> huh
[08:52] <hendaus> PF-Away,  now what can i do
[08:52] <hendaus> lol
[08:53] <malik__> how do i access floppy drive ?........it shows in /media directory but i cant read floppies thru it..............can any1 help?
[08:53] <scheuri> I added my main user (which is sudoer) to a new group...after logout/login sudo says the main user is not sudoer anymore and this user is only in two groups left...may someone be so kind to help me restore the "normal" situation
[08:54] <Arwen> scheuri, boot to single user/recovery mode and edit /etc/group
[08:54] <x3m-tux> hello dudes :-)
[08:54] <scheuri> Arwen: thanks...that would be init 1, right? but point is...what is default in /etc/group for the first user made during installation...
[08:54] <Arwen> scheuri, group admin
[08:55] <Arwen> make sure at least 1 person is in group admin
[08:55] <x3m-tux> hawe some here one T42 ????
[08:55] <scheuri> Arwen: ah I see....okay...thanks...may you be so kind to confirm that this very first user made during installation should also be in a lot other groups?
[08:56] <x3m-tux> is there some more help forums up????
[08:57] <sue__> hi can any one help with a You do not have enough permissions to read file:///media/store problem on viewing the contents of my second drive
[08:57] <scheuri> x3m-tux: I have a T42 running 6.06
[08:57] <gigabytes> hello
[08:57] <gigabytes> I feel like adept is very slow
[08:58] <sue__> anyone?
[08:58] <x3m-tux> scheuri and it have Ati M7 also??
[08:58] <Arwen> scheuri, yes, it should also be in plugdev, dialout, audio, etc etc
[08:58] <gigabytes> is there the plan to speed up the adept GUI?
[08:58] <sue__> anyone help at all?
[08:59] <scheuri> Arwen: may you print out your "id" of your main user here? or is there any confidential stuff in there?
[08:59] <scheuri> x3m-tux: sorry...that I dont know...but I thought it is an ATI
[08:59] <comlag> wut up
[08:59] <Arwen> scheuri, let's see, the list is - admin, scanner, plugdev, lpadmin, dialout, cdrom, floppy, tape, dip, adm
[08:59] <Arwen> scheuri, uids are generated starting at 1000
[08:59] <comlag> i need some help guys
[08:59] <sue__> so no one helps here?
[09:00] <x3m-tux> sue__ you ned make permissons then maby shown /dev/cd and so on works fine?
[09:00] <comlag> kinda unrelated to kubuntu thou the #ubuntu guys just kept telling me to not logon thru root
[09:00] <kay> it takes like 2 seconds of holding down keys for them to register, anyone know why?
[09:00] <scheuri> Arwen: yes, my user is 1000 actually...:)...just messed up the groups by adding the group vboxusers....dont know how I actually managed to do this
[09:00] <comlag> im trying to fix my root logon to gnome
[09:00] <comlag> i get this error
[09:00] <Arwen> scheuri, hmm, me neither
[09:00] <comlag> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: Registering your session with wtmp and utmp
[09:00] <comlag> /etc/gdm/PreSession/Default: running: /usr/X11R6/bin/sessreg -a -w /var/log/wtmp -u /var/run/utmp -x "/var/lib/gdm/:0.Xservers" -h "" -l ":0" "root"
[09:00] <comlag> /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[09:00] <comlag> /etc/profile: 20: [[: not found
[09:00] <comlag> stdin: is not a tty
[09:00] <comlag> No window managers found!
[09:01] <scheuri> Arwen: many thanks for your help
[09:01] <sue__> sorry im i day old to linux....... i have mounted my second ntfs drive but it wont let me in says the above
[09:01] <comlag> any of u guys know hwo to fix this?
[09:01] <scheuri> x3m-tux: what is your exact problem with the T42?
[09:01] <x3m-tux> the tft
[09:02] <scheuri> x3m-tux: oh...I see...hmmm...mine actually worked out of the box....1024x768
[09:02] <x3m-tux> and normal fonts??
[09:02] <scheuri> x3m-tux: well, yes...
[09:02] <scheuri> x3m-tux: at least I'd consider them normal...
[09:02] <sue__> tux ?????
[09:02] <x3m-tux> i have baad fonts
[09:03] <scheuri> x3m-tux: what are you running? 6.10?
[09:03] <x3m-tux> :-)
[09:03] <sue__> tux any ideas on how to get round this?
[09:04] <BluesKaj> sue__:  no boot menu ?
[09:04] <kay> any help?
[09:04] <scheuri> okay...single user time for me now...;)
[09:04] <sue__> what?
[09:04] <x3m-tux> sue__you need change permissions..im not shore if the shown comand works on kubunto..in SuSE it did
[09:05] <sue__> so how do i do it?
[09:05] <x3m-tux> sue__ in shell i wrote  shown /user/dev/cd  and so on ...
[09:05] <BluesKaj> x3m-tux: don't give Suse cmnds in kubuntu , they not he same baseOS
[09:06] <sue__> okay wait.....
[09:06] <BluesKaj> they're not the same base OS
[09:06] <x3m-tux> BluesKaj ok sorry
[09:07] <sue__> so whats 'so on'
[09:07] <x3m-tux> one told me it's not same compands in kubuntu sorry
[09:08] <x3m-tux> the dude whit same laptop is gone :-(
[09:09] <trond> Adept-updater keeps telling me that there is a new distribution version available. But when I try to upgrade is states "Could not download relase announcement. Please check that your internet connection is active". I am running kubuntu feisty. IS there a way to do this with apt from the terminal?
[09:09] <x3m-tux> i have BIG problems whit Thinkpad T42 here
[09:09] <BluesKaj> (k)ubuntu is based on debian
[09:09] <Mena> !hardwaremonitor
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hardwaremonitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Mena> Need hardware monitor Plz ..What is the name of the app wich enable it ?
[09:10] <BluesKaj> !distro-upgrade
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about distro-upgrade - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <BluesKaj> !upgrade
[09:10] <Kubuntero> hi
[09:11] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:11] <trond> Blueskaj: I am running feisty :)
[09:11] <x3m-tux> can please some help me out here?
[09:11] <Mena> Thanks any way ...
[09:11] <BluesKaj> oops sorry trond...check with the ppl at #kubuntu+1
[09:11] <Mena> x3m-tux
[09:11] <kay>  it takes like 2 seconds of holding down keys for them to register, anyone know why?
[09:11] <x3m-tux> i have instaled and sitt here 2 days soon
[09:12] <BluesKaj> or #ubuntu+1
[09:13] <x3m-tux> any one more ho hawe T42 here??
[09:13] <Mena> Thanks..Bye
[09:14] <x3m-tux> howe i can wrire reed private here?????
[09:14] <x3m-tux> write
[09:16] <x3m-tux> soon i giwe up here
[09:17] <BluesKaj> x3m-tux:  register your nick : /msg nickserv register "nick"
[09:17] <knubbe-> !dist-upgrade
[09:17] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:17] <myTB|Tanuva> f*... I've accidentally removed myself from the sudoers group and now it doesnt let me sudo myself into it again (logically...) - any way to fix this except doing it as root from a live system?
[09:17] <x3m-tux> ok
[09:19] <x3m-tux> BluesKaj dident work :-(
[09:19] <x3m-tux>  [Error]  scheuri: No such nick/channel.
[09:20] <scheuri> uh?
[09:20] <x3m-tux> scheuri hello again
[09:20] <scheuri> Arwen: just wanted to thank you again...it worked...had to use live cd though and chroot into my HD...:)
[09:21] <zours> I've removed a lot of packages recently, and now I can't type any accents. I can view and copy/paste them though. Any idea which package(s) could be responsible for that?
[09:21] <kkerwin> What's the name of the qt development libraries package?
[09:21] <x3m-tux> scheuri can you plase tell me little more abaut your T42?
[09:21] <scheuri> kkerwin: try to search for -dev packages
[09:21] <kkerwin> scheuri: Thank you.
[09:21] <scheuri> x3m-tux: there is not much to say...got it from my employer...:)
[09:21] <myTB|Tanuva> zours: change your keyboard layout to a accent-supporting one
[09:22] <x3m-tux> and it's not running XP ??
[09:22] <scheuri> x3m-tux: I installed 6.06 without any troubles...even WLAN and Bluetooth running
[09:22] <scheuri> x3m-tux: heavens no...no windows
[09:22] <x3m-tux> scheuri al runs fine for me to onlt the TFT whas is baad
[09:23] <RavenTux> What will be the final kernel version for Feisty??
[09:23] <scheuri> x3m-tux: I am afraid...but xorg was never one of my strenghts...either it runs or...I can not help too much and need to google myself
[09:23] <NightBird> RavenTux: it will be delicious
[09:23] <scheuri> RavenTux: 2.6.20.x
[09:24] <scheuri> RavenTux: probably 2.6.20.4
[09:24] <inteliwasp> what is the command to do the disk check that happens after 30 boots?
[09:24] <RavenTux> :)  thanks
[09:24] <x3m-tux> scheuri it's not charpe and i have works 2 dayd whit it here
[09:24] <scheuri> charpe?
[09:24] <RavenTux> I'm running 2.6.20.5 on the beta
[09:24] <x3m-tux> yes ..fonts are not charpe
[09:24] <scheuri> RavenTux: ah well, okay...:)
[09:25] <scheuri> x3m-tux: ah, you mean sharp....well...as I said...I am afraid I cannot help too much with xorg
[09:25] <RavenTux> scheuri: I built it myself
[09:25] <scheuri> x3m-tux: tried to google for "t42 xorg ubuntu" on google?
[09:25] <myTB|Tanuva> f*... I've accidentally removed myself from the sudoers group and now it doesnt let me sudo myself into it again (logically...) - any way to fix this except doing it as root from a live system?
[09:25] <soulrider> inteliwasp: fsck but i think you may have issues if the partitions ar emounted
[09:25] <kkerwin> scheuri: Searching for -dev packages gives nearly 2000 results. qt-dev gives 5, none of which are it. Any ideas?
[09:25] <x3m-tux> scheuri i  hawe been happy to get copy of your X conf :-)
[09:25] <scheuri> myTB|Tanuva: LOL...did that just a minute ago...;)
[09:26] <scheuri> kkerwin: if none of the 5 is what you seek...then...I am sorry
[09:26] <soulrider> i dont think you can add yourself back without a live CD :P
[09:26] <myTB|Tanuva> scheuri: so thats the only solution.. sh*, cant reboot now...
[09:26] <x3m-tux> scheuri i hawe read al from google
[09:26] <soulrider> kkerwin: whata re you trying to do ?
[09:27] <scheuri> myTB|Tanuva: well, I did remove myself from sudoers from a installed box and had to start a live CD...
[09:27] <inteliwasp> soulrider: is there a way to make it run? the last time it ran, it saw errors but i was not able to read them before it rebooted
[09:27] <kkerwin> soulrider: I am just looking for the standard QT development libraries, prefarably in an easy-to-use debian file.
[09:27] <scheuri> x3m-tux: then I am sorry...I cant help
[09:27] <x3m-tux> scheuri okey thank's anyway
[09:27] <scheuri> kkerwin: well...wait...have you also looked for "libqt" stuff?
[09:28] <scheuri> kkerwin: I have WAAAYYY more than only 5 dev-packages for QT here
[09:28] <soulrider> inteliwasp: just open a console and type fsck, but i htink you might wanna do it from a live CD, AFAIK its not a good diea to do it on mounted partitions, but i could be wrong
[09:28] <x3m-tux> scheuri no pixels are missing in your fonts then..then i got some hope here
[09:28] <inteliwasp> soulrider: thanks
[09:28] <kkerwin> scheuri: No, I haven't tried "libqt".
[09:28] <scheuri> x3m-tux: no there are no missing pixels...it is fine for me
[09:28] <myTB|Tanuva> soulrider: no, its not a good idea :)
[09:29] <inteliwasp> soulrider: can i do it from resue mode?
[09:29] <soulrider> inteliwasp: im not on ubuntu right now, but let me make a quick search
[09:29] <scheuri> kkerwin: I have quite a lot dev-packages for qt here...
[09:29] <kkerwin> scheuri: My searches were "-dev" (2000) and "qt-dev" (5) hits.
[09:29] <scheuri> kkerwin: try "sudo aptitude search dev | grep qt" on the CLI
[09:29] <soulrider> inteliwasp: sorry, i meant kkerwin
[09:29] <myTB|Tanuva> inteliwasp: the partition you want to check must be unmounted
[09:29] <kay>  it takes like 2 seconds of holding down keys for them to register, anyone know why?
[09:29] <soulrider> inteliwasp: im not sure, but maybe
[09:30] <x3m-tux> scheuri i have needed se one x conf
[09:30] <myTB|Tanuva> oops..
[09:30] <scheuri> x3m-tux: my T42 is at work...not with me...and I am not at work until monday...sorry
[09:30] <soulrider> kkerwin: are you gonna make apps or just compile ?
[09:30] <scheuri> no actualy tuesday
[09:30] <kkerwin> scheuri: Found it, thanks.
[09:30] <kkerwin> soulrider: Compile.
[09:30] <scheuri> kkerwin: welcome
[09:30] <x3m-tux> scheuri ok saad news
[09:31] <scheuri> x3m-tux: I am really sorry
[09:31] <soulrider> kkerwin: try installing libqt3-dev
[09:31] <soulrider> !info libqt3-dev
[09:31] <ubotu> Package libqt3-dev does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:31] <x3m-tux> schueri i hope some other hawe same laptop
[09:31] <soulrider> err, that might not be the name
[09:32] <kkerwin> soulrider: Yep. That's the one's I'm grabbing: libqt3-mt-dev.
[09:32] <soulrider> ahh
[09:32] <kkerwin> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[09:32] <soulrider> that might solve it. What are you compiling? there might be a deb package around
[09:32] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 51 kB, installed size 168 kB
[09:32] <x3m-tux> some more ho hawe one T42 here??
[09:32] <soulrider> x3m-tux: whats that? :P
[09:32] <kkerwin> soulrider: XPertMud.
[09:33] <kkerwin> soulrider: Couldn't find a deb package for edgy, had to grab an SVN.
[09:33] <x3m-tux> soulrider Thinkpad T42 :-))
[09:34] <scheuri> okay...thanks again to all and see you
[09:35] <loguser1> can any one help me with uck. ubuntu customization kit. iam getting the following errors while remastering an .iso http://pastebin.ca/427409
[09:36] <x3m-tux> no more then
[09:38] <x3m-tux> no one hawe one ide ??
[09:39] <x3m-tux> abaut one T42 and the TFT
[09:39] <lolote> allo all
[09:39] <soulrider> !grub
[09:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:40] <wolferine> what do I need for SWAT to run?
[09:40] <wolferine> i have installed it
[09:40] <Arwen> wolferine, remote admin of samba
[09:40] <x3m-tux> swap
[09:40] <wolferine> but then I cannot access it
[09:40] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: have what?
[09:40] <Arwen> that's about it
[09:40] <wolferine> Arwen, is that a package?
[09:40] <Lynoure> R52 here, but thinkpads normally have ide, yes.
[09:41] <Lynoure> at least the bit older ones.
[09:41] <hunshad> edwe<
[09:41] <hunshad> wewe
[09:41] <Arwen> wolferine, swat? yes
[09:41] <x3m-tux> Lynoure hi
[09:41] <wolferine> Arwen, I think your confused by my question
[09:42] <Arwen> oh, what do you need for swat to run? ah.... hmm
[09:42] <Arwen> sorry, I misread it
[09:42] <wolferine> its usually at localhost:901 ?
[09:43] <Arwen> wolferine, dunno, try it
[09:43] <myTB|Tanuva> wolferine: same here...
[09:43] <wolferine> myTB|Tanuva, ?
[09:43] <myTB|Tanuva> installed & cant access
[09:43] <wolferine> ah
[09:43] <loguser1> can any one help me with uck. ubuntu customization kit. iam getting the following errors while remastering an .iso http://pastebin.ca/427409
[09:43] <ace> Hi all
[09:43] <wolferine> you add xinetd?
[09:44] <ace> can someone help me setup my mouse
[09:44] <ace> it isn't detected properly in K7.04 beta
[09:44] <myTB|Tanuva> wolferine: add? where/what?
[09:44] <ace> xev shows that buttons that used to be 8 and 9 in xev now do the same thing as buttons 2 and 3
[09:45] <wolferine> let me see if I can get it
[09:45] <wolferine> then ill tell you
[09:45] <x3m-tux> lynoure i have problems whit my THinkpad T42..fonts have baad pixels
[09:45] <myTB|Tanuva> okay
[09:45] <ace> xev says that button 2 is pressed when really its button 8 thats pressed, the edgy used to detect it properly
[09:46] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: What do you mean with bad pixels? If blurriness, often it happens as the result of a non-ideal resolution
[09:46] <x3m-tux> Lynoure it's like missing some smal parts off the text
[09:47] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: can you put a picture up somewhere?
[09:47] <lordofheat> not a screenshot! :)
[09:47] <x3m-tux> Lyynoure then i need search for some place where i can do it
[09:48] <wolferine> myTB|Tanuva, that works
[09:48] <wolferine> add that package
[09:48] <wolferine> and you need to consult this page for the swat setup in xinetd
[09:48] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: you didn't answer my questions asked earlier :-)
[09:49] <wolferine> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch10_:_Windows,_Linux,_and_Samba
[09:49] <ypsila> are you shy?
[09:49] <x3m-tux> Lanoure it looks like laptop TFT is showing 1024x768 and in real it is 800x600
[09:50] <Lynoure> x33m-tux: you mean the resolution is 800x600 though the screen supports 1024x768, or something else?
[09:51] <x3m-tux> Lynoure aand in x conf it says generate 1024
[09:52] <x3m-tux> Lynoure and kubuntu found this TFT 800x600
[09:52] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: what if you try to change the resolution from kubuntu?
[09:52] <x3m-tux> Lynoure and generate 1024x768
[09:52] <myTB|Tanuva> wolferine: ah.. okay, Ill take a look :)
[09:53] <x3m-tux> Lunoure then i cant se nothing
[09:53] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: no, had kaffeine in fullscreen mode :D
[09:53] <wolferine> k
[09:53] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: the screen goes black?
[09:53] <x3m-tux> no the picture goes so baad i can't se nothing
[09:54] <wolferine> how can I logoff SWAT/change users (I wasnt able to login as root to start) ?
[09:54] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: hard to tell what's wrong without seeing how it does bad...
[09:54] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: but I cant find a question of yours...
[09:54] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: I only wanted to know which part of germany you do come from
[09:54] <x3m-tux> Lynoure you can se some thing is there but not what
[09:55] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: how do u know I'm from germany? Lower Saxony.. :)
[09:55] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: sorry, I do not understand what you mean..
[09:55] <x3m-tux> im from Sweden :-)
[09:55] <lordofheat> Is there a way I can use ubuntu machine as a router with fair bandwidth sharing?
[09:56] <myTB|Tanuva> ah sweden... large lakes great for canoes... :D
[09:56] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: blde frage!
[09:56] <myTB|Tanuva> myTB?
[09:56] <myTB|Tanuva> oder warum?
[09:56] <ypsila> whois?
[09:56] <myTB|Tanuva> ah
[09:56] <myTB|Tanuva> klar
[09:56] <ypsila> ;-)
[09:56] <myTB|Tanuva> :D
[09:56] <x3m-tux> Lynoure i hawe made 3 instals to day here
[09:57] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: have you been to chemnitz?
[09:57] <myTB|Tanuva> nope
[09:57] <hyper_ch> sweden - blonde attractive girls...
[09:57] <ypsila> http://www.kubuntu-de.org/bilder/events/chemnitzer-linux-tage-2007
[09:57] <x3m-tux> sweden is nice and good only to mutch off some thing
[09:58] <ypsila> hyper_ch: we need more blondes for the booths!
[09:58] <Lynoure> x3m-tux: Still, I cannot help without knowing how it breaks. Get that image of the problem up there and I bet someone can (gotta go)
[09:58] <x3m-tux> Lynoure ok al the best to you
[09:58] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: linking html files with kate wasnt a good idea... :/
[09:58] <lordofheat> Is there a way I can use ubuntu machine as a router with fair bandwidth sharing?
[09:58] <lordofheat> noone knows how?
[09:58] <hyper_ch> myTB|Tanuva: why not? ^^
[09:58] <ypsila> kate?
[09:59] <x3m-tux> no one can help so soon i install home made XP here
[09:59] <hyper_ch> lordofheat: with two nics that shouldn't be a problem
[09:59] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: ???
[09:59] <myTB|Tanuva> hyper_ch: because kub now opens every link with kate instead of firefox
[10:00] <hyper_ch> but isn't it great to see directly the source? ^^
[10:00] <x3m-tux> daaam no one on this planet hawe one T42
[10:00] <myTB|Tanuva> sure it is
[10:00] <lordofheat> hyper_ch: and what else?
[10:00] <lordofheat> I have 2 nics
[10:00] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: kmenu, systemsettings, first line standard programs or so
[10:00] <myTB|Tanuva> yep
[10:00] <myTB|Tanuva> was too lazy to change it back...
[10:00] <myTB|Tanuva> :D
[10:01] <x3m-tux> can some tell me howe i write in reed here ??????
[10:01] <hyper_ch> lordofheat: maybe this here? http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu6.10_firewall_gateway
[10:01] <x3m-tux> hal
[10:01] <ypsila> x3m-tux: ??? can you ask a question?
[10:01] <myTB|Tanuva> x3m-tux: whats reed?
[10:02] <x3m-tux> when i want write to one person here
[10:02] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: I guess he means highlights
[10:02] <lordofheat> myTB|Tanuva: I think he meant red :)
[10:02] <qsu> ypsila: it was not realy busy overthere
[10:02] <myTB|Tanuva> Oo
[10:02] <x3m-tux> ypsila ask what???
[10:02] <ypsila> x3m-tux: which client do you use?
[10:02] <ramiro82> alguien habla espaol?
[10:02] <ypsila> ramiro82:
[10:02] <hyper_ch> !es | ramiro82
[10:02] <ubotu> ramiro82: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:02] <ypsila> !spanish
[10:03] <x3m-tux> ypsila client for what??
[10:03] <lordofheat> hyper_ch: that's what I was searching for, thx
[10:03] <ramiro82> tankio
[10:03] <ypsila> x3m-tux: what was your question? how to type in red colour?
[10:03] <hyper_ch> lordofheat: well, I don't know what then to equally distribute the bandwidth but if it doesn't say in there it's at least a beginning :)
[10:03] <x3m-tux> yes when i wnat send to one person here so it's easier to see
[10:04] <ypsila> x3m-tux: what irc client do you use?
[10:04] <x3m-tux> K client
[10:05] <hunshad> hey all
[10:05] <ypsila> h?
[10:05] <myTB|Tanuva> type the first few letters of the nikc and press TAB
[10:05] <myTB|Tanuva> x3m-tux:
[10:05] <hunshad> which game do you like play
[10:05] <ypsila> x3m-tux: type the first letters of the nick + tab
[10:05] <x3m-tux> konverastion im using
[10:06] <hunshad> can downlaod a video game in konsole
[10:06] <x3m-tux> ypsila: I GOT IT
[10:06] <x3m-tux> ypsila: thank's
[10:06] <myTB|Tanuva> x3m-tux: told you that a few lines upper... :P
[10:06] <ypsila> x3m-tux: but over here your are not red, because I use opera :-P
[10:06] <hunshad> can downlaod a video game in konsole
[10:06] <x3m-tux> myTB|Tanuva: danke shn
[10:07] <myTB|Tanuva> :D
[10:07] <x3m-tux> ypsila: okey ..i hope to get my problem solved here
[10:08] <x3m-tux> ypsila: or i need instal home made Xp to night
[10:09] <x3m-tux> Lynoure: still up?
[10:09] <ypsila> x3m-tux: what is your problem, i didnt follow
[10:09] <x3m-tux> ypsila: it's that i hawe baad fonts
[10:10] <ypsila> x3m-tux: in general or only some programs?
[10:10] <x3m-tux> ypsila: kubuntu mess it up
[10:11] <ypsila> x3m-tux: no, the fault sits in front of the monitor
[10:11] <x3m-tux> ypsila:  in general
[10:11] <lordofheat_> x3m-tux: maybe this will help... http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/enable-smooth-fonts-on-ubuntu-linux/
[10:11] <ypsila> x3m-tux: what did you do last?
[10:12] <ypsila> moin TheInfinity
[10:12] <x3m-tux> ypsila: i hawe made 3 istals to day and trayd out al..thanks i test that one the link
[10:12] <aldin> i've installed kde-core and my menu icons are small. how can i increase its size like in kubuntu-desktop menues?
[10:13] <ypsila> x3m-tux: that does not explain anything, and is worthless as an answer
[10:13] <x3m-tux> aldin: it's easy
[10:13] <pollyo> Hello
[10:13] <ypsila> aldin: kcontrol?
[10:13] <pollyo> Anyone know of a poker site like partypoker that will work on linux?
[10:13] <SSJ_GZ> aldin: http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=Kicker+Hacks
[10:14] <aldin> x3m-tux: can u tell me which config file is for me
[10:14] <ypsila> .oO
[10:14] <x3m-tux> aldin go to system settings
[10:14] <aldin> x3m-tux: "start" menu icons
[10:14] <aldin> not the Desktop ones...
[10:14] <x3m-tux> aldin KDE and system settings you have al stuff
[10:15] <SSJ_GZ> aldin: It's called the K-Menu :)
[10:15] <aldin> x3m-tux: i think i've found
[10:15] <aldin> x3m-tux: just sec
[10:15] <x3m-tux> ypsila: okey i hawe told it manny times
[10:15] <pollyo> Anyone know a linux equivalent to the windows dvdshirnk program?
[10:15] <aldin> x3m-tux: nope
[10:15] <ypsila> x3m-tux: I did not follow everything, I'm jumping between several chans
[10:16] <aldin> thats not the catch
[10:16] <Arwen> pollyo, k9dvd
[10:16] <x3m-tux> ypsila the TFT fejks 1024x768
[10:16] <Arwen> pollyo, acidrip too
[10:16] <ypsila> x3m-tux: but as apparently nobody else had an answer I doubt I will have one
[10:16] <pollyo> Arwen: k9dvd that different from k9copy?
[10:16] <Arwen> pollyo, k9copy *
[10:16] <x3m-tux> aldin: need to bee there
[10:16] <Arwen> sorry, I got my names wrong
[10:17] <ypsila> now
[10:17] <myTB|Tanuva> good luck :D
[10:17] <aldin> x3m-tux: i 've maximized them (32)
[10:17] <aldin> x3m-tux: but nothing happens
[10:17] <x3m-tux> aldin ok
[10:17] <pollyo> Arwen:  Anything work as fast as dvdshirnk?  I tried k9copy and it cut out one or two scense from the dvd.
[10:17] <Arwen> pollyo, dunno, DVD Shrink runs very well in wine though
[10:17] <aldin> the menu (games, interent etc) stays tiny
[10:17] <pollyo> Arwen: I'm tired of my nephew coming over and destroying my dvd's.
[10:17] <x3m-tux> aldin: you applyed settings??
[10:18] <aldin> x3m-tux: yes
[10:18] <aldin> x3m-tux: perhaps i should logout?
[10:18] <Arwen> pollyo, well, throw the nephew out of the house? *duh*
[10:18] <pollyo> Arwen: LOL
[10:18] <x3m-tux> aldin: strange i look brb
[10:18] <ypsila> pollyo: put them on a shelve at 2.20m
[10:19] <pollyo> ypsila: : Then the shelve and the DVD's would get destroyed.
[10:19] <aldin> x3m-tux: i will upload pic to show u...
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[10:19] <kill_> how can I tell apt to download several packages during 'apt-get update' to retrieve files concurrently?
[10:19] <jhutchins> !dvd
[10:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:19] <x3m-tux> aldin: i founfd it
[10:19] <pollyo> Arwen: Is it common for k9copy to miss scenes?
[10:20] <Arwen> dunno, I don't use it
[10:20] <x3m-tux> right klick on the meny
[10:20] <drew> hoe do i run my current sesion as root?
[10:20] <pollyo> Arwen: Ok
[10:20] <pollyo> !sudo
[10:20] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:20] <dell190_> do anyone know how to restore Amarok... it dissappeared :S
[10:20] <ypsila> boah
[10:21] <ypsila> dell190: alt f2 amarok
[10:21] <drew> okay how do i move a file INTO the root folder
[10:21] <lordofheat> dell190_: sudo apt-get install amarok
[10:21] <ypsila> dell190_: or kill
[10:21] <myTB|Tanuva> rofl ypsi
[10:21] <pollyo> Arwen: Do you know how the speed of dvdshrink is under wine?
[10:21] <Dragonhorse> how can I tell apt to download several packages concurrently during 'apt-get update'?
[10:21] <jhutchins> pollyo: Sorry, I thought ubotu knew someting more about that.  No, k9copy shouldn't have dropped scenes, but I don't know it that well.  What I've done has been to manually extract and re-comrpess stuff.
[10:21] <Arwen> pollyo, same as in Windows
[10:21] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: what?
[10:21] <knapper> Hey guys, I'm about to reformat, what am I forgetting to backup?
[10:21] <myTB|Tanuva> slightly upset... ;)
[10:21] <jhutchins> pollyo: I'm pretty sure there are some other native-linux alternatives though.
[10:22] <aldin> i will repeat my question: i've installed kde-core and my menu icons are small. how can i increase its size like in kubuntu-desktop menues?
[10:22] <pollyo> jhutchins: Thank you.
[10:22] <dell190_> anyone know how long it will take to download ?
[10:22] <myTB|Tanuva> pollyo: it wont be as fast as under windows
[10:22] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: ???
[10:22] <dell190_> or how big it is
[10:22] <aldin> this is screenshot http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/448677824_2f560408e0_o.png
[10:22] <pollyo> myTB|Tanuva: OK.
[10:22] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: your reaction to dells question
[10:22] <pollyo> I have a dual boot system.  I guess I can drop to windows if I need to.
[10:22] <drew> whats the !sudo command to move a file to apt?
[10:23] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: no, I thought it disappered, which is not "having deleted"
[10:23] <lordofheat> dell190_: go to adept(KDE) or synaptic(gnome) and see for yourself ho big it is :)
[10:23] <myTB|Tanuva> yep
[10:23] <SSJ_GZ> aldin: Did you try the link I suggested?
[10:24] <aldin> SSJ_GZ: sorry didnt see
[10:24] <aldin> just sec
[10:24] <dell190_> is it possible to set up a dedicated webserver using Kubuntu or would i need another linux distro
[10:24] <aldin> can u post it again
[10:24] <aldin> SSJ_GZ: ?
[10:24] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: we had several questions about "this or that disappears", "how to remove thist or that"
[10:24] <Arwen> dell190, yes, you can, but a dedicated server distro is probably a better idea
[10:24] <SSJ_GZ> aldin: http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=Kicker+Hacks
[10:25] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: usually I do 1st level support on #kubuntu-de
[10:25] <SSJ_GZ> aldin: Specifically, the MenuEntryHeight stuff
[10:25] <oleg> Hi, I got new Ipod Nano, and it no longer works, although my old one still works. Any way to fix that?
[10:25] <aldin> SSJ_GZ: just sec i will explore a bit, thx man
[10:25] <lordofheat> oleg, is it running ubuntu? :)
[10:25] <dell190_> Arwen: what distro would you recommend?
[10:25] <jhutchins> Arwen: Like maybe the ubuntu 6.06 LTS server disk?
[10:25] <SSJ_GZ> aldin: np - good luck!
[10:26] <Arwen> jhutchins, yes.... or maybe something else?
[10:26] <Arwen> dell190_, dunno, ask other people
[10:26] <lordofheat> dell190_: google LAMP
[10:26] <pollyo> Is there a linux distribution that will turn an old computer into a fileserver for cheap?
[10:26] <drew> ughgh in need to move a file to the root folder!
[10:26] <oleg> lordofheat: My ipod? No. My computer? Yes
[10:26] <drew> whats the command?
[10:26] <lordofheat> pollyo, yes, damn small linux
[10:26] <pollyo> I was thinking about putting a SATA controller and a few 750gig drives into an old machine so that I can keep my data files on it.
[10:27] <ypsila> drew: whats your problem? moving or copying?
[10:27] <pollyo> lordofheat: I'll have to check that out.
[10:27] <lordofheat> oleg: it's obviously ipod problem :)
[10:27] <oleg> lordofheat: works on windows or mac
[10:27] <pollyo> lordofheat: Does DSL have samba and the tools I would need to make it a file server?
[10:27] <oleg> lordofheat: Which makes it OS problem
[10:28] <jhutchins> dell190_: A lot of people recommend Centos, but when I looked at it it didn't support the hardware I needed while Fedora did.
[10:28] <ypsila> drew: cp or mv
[10:28] <lordofheat> pollyo, yes
[10:28] <pollyo> lordofheat: Ok.  Thanks.  I'll start looking into it.
[10:28] <lordofheat> pollyo, it even has apt :)
[10:28] <drew> sorry i lagged can you repeat that?
[10:28] <jhutchins> dell190_: Fedora's really desktop focused these days, and you don't get )any( support for running it as a server.
[10:28] <pollyo> lordofheat: I didn't realize that it supported apt.  Is it debian based?
[10:29] <lordofheat> pollyo, yes, stripped down debian
[10:29] <drew> ypsila: Im trying to move the Beryl source files to apts
[10:29] <dell190_> Ok, thankx
[10:29] <ypsila> drew: why that?
[10:29] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: so u dont have one yet... bit late to buy one he? :D
[10:29] <pollyo> drew: Are you using fiesty?I saw somethings for beryl in feisty.
[10:29] <drew> no,
[10:30] <nate_> does anyone know how to get usb gamepads to work in kbuntu(ps3)?
[10:30] <jhutchins> dell190_: Fedora doesn't do backports, has a very short lifecycle.
[10:30] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: I do have one, but I would like to have a new one, and as I got some time tomorrow, I will check availability tonight ;-)
[10:30] <kb3ocf^> Hello, I just got compiz.. I can see it in /bin and stuff.. but uh, this maybe silly, but, now what?
[10:30] <myTB|Tanuva> ah :D
[10:30] <jhutchins> dell190_: Mandriva does backports, but doesn't get much testing as a server.  You have to be willing to solve problems with it, but I don't think any worse than the problems you need to solve in ubuntu.
[10:31] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: even if I wouldn't own a bed, there would always be some guy willing to share his with me :-P
[10:31] <dell190_> jhutchins: what distro would work best as a server
[10:31] <myTB|Tanuva> hehe
[10:31] <ypsila> debian
[10:31] <jhutchins> dell190_: My next build will probably be Ubuntu LTS.
[10:31] <myTB|Tanuva> but finding such is an art
[10:31] <jhutchins> dell190_: Debian is probably the best answer.
[10:32] <ypsila> jhutchins: are you crazy? gnome?
[10:32] <maloco> yes
[10:32] <jhutchins> ypsila: No gnome.  No X - it's a server.
[10:32] <nate_> does anyone know how to get usb gamepads to work in kbuntu(ps3)?
[10:32] <myTB|Tanuva> arr I really need to get myself into the sudoers group again, cant add swat to the inetd config file...
[10:32] <ypsila> jhutchins: the answer ist still: debian
[10:32] <dell190_> Debian is good?  ive heard people say its horrible
[10:32] <kb3ocf^> I'm runing Kubuntu 6.10 (edgy) and I need help getting Compiz to work.. I just went through the instructions on http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/compiz-repository/ and I went through Apt-get and got Compiz (it is now ON my system, I can see 'compiz' in /bin/) but my question is, now what do I do? I'd like to make it the default Window manager (?) but I can't seem to find any instructions on it, anyone wanna help? =3
[10:33] <ypsila> dell190: test it, and then decide
[10:33] <jhutchins> dell190_: You will hear people say every distribution is horrible.
[10:33] <peanutb> I think ubuntu is easier to use on the server. its much more stable than debian in my experience.
[10:33] <skarface> my screen is blanking after a very short interval, but I have no screensaver enabled and the power saving is set for 45 minutes. is there anywhere else to check>?
[10:33] <drew> i onyl have dapper, I am installing beyrl but i cant move it to the apts folder!
[10:34] <jhutchins> dell190_: Ubuntu is easier to set up, but if you're going to be doing a server you're going to be up to your elbows in text configuartion files anyway.
[10:34] <ypsila> drew: beryl is not for dapper, as far as I know!
[10:34] <aldin> SSJ_GZ: THX a lot!!! before http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/448677824_2f560408e0_o.png after http://farm1.static.flickr.com/182/448688194_94242a0896_o.png
[10:34] <lordofheat> can I somehow stop the first apt-get, download something with the second apt-get, then resume the first?
[10:34] <ypsila> !beryl
[10:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:34] <dell190_> i forgot to say thats it is an older PC too lol
[10:34] <SSJ_GZ> aldin: Great - you're welcome =)
[10:34] <drew> no, moving the tars to apts folde
[10:34] <jhutchins> dell190_: THere is a #ubuntu-server channel, but it doesn't get much traffic.
[10:35] <drew> i need to move the tarballs to the apts folder
[10:35] <drew> ass root
[10:35] <drew> as*
[10:35] <myTB|Tanuva> jhutchins: but if you know where all these config files are, every standart-conformist distro is possible
[10:35] <maloco> ubuntu is good!!
[10:35] <jhutchins> dell190_: The fact that there's a server install CD and a channel at least indicates that somebody's trying.
[10:35] <ypsila> drew: I guess that will not help much!
[10:35] <aldin> btw, as there is pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org pro textual "pastes" is there any "ubuntu" powered photo "paster" ?
[10:35] <lordofheat> can I somehow stop the first apt-get, download something with the second apt-get, then resume the first?
[10:36] <jhutchins> myTB|Tanuva: Things are done differently in debian-branch distros than they are in RPM-branch distros.
[10:36] <ypsila> lordofheat: repeating a question will not help
[10:36] <lordofheat> ypsila: ok :)
[10:36] <drew> No i just wnat to move it for when i upgrade later
[10:36] <ypsila> rpm *kreisch*
[10:36] <ace> hi all
[10:36] <ypsila> drew: useless
[10:36] <ace> In Feisty Fawn, Anyone know how to turn off the zooming thing in kubuntu, i HATE IT!!! its the most annoying thing ever when your browsing for something
[10:36] <aldin> lordofheat: didi u try CTRL + C on first apt
[10:36] <nate_> hello again ^
[10:36] <drew> oh
[10:36] <maloco> ha, you is crazy?
[10:36] <myTB|Tanuva> jhutchins: sure... but apt is the way better packman anyway :D
[10:37] <maloco> tome
[10:37] <ypsila> ace: feisty -> ubuntu+1
[10:37] <lordofheat> aldin: and then I will lose the progress
[10:37] <maloco> deb
[10:37] <maloco> rpm
[10:37] <jhutchins> myTB|Tanuva: I disagree, but in any case, Fedora is definitely anti-server, and Mandriva just doesn't have much of a server community.
[10:37] <maloco> .run
[10:37] <maloco> rpm -ivh
[10:37] <aldin> lordofheat: yes, but ur download will continue form same pint where it was interrupted
[10:37] <jhutchins> myTB|Tanuva: commercial SuSE, Centos, and RHEL are all server-focused
[10:37] <lordofheat> r'u sure bout that?
[10:37] <drew> how do i see what version im running?
[10:37] <maloco> cube saurbraten
[10:38] <maloco> yes
[10:38] <jhutchins> drew: cat /etc/release
[10:38] <ace> ypsila: i went there and they told me to come here!!!
[10:38] <aldin> lordofheat: yes, cause apt uses wget as download manager
[10:38] <myTB|Tanuva> jhutchins: but I cant understand why one would want to run suse on a server...
[10:38] <ypsila> drew: what version of what?
[10:38] <drew> kubuntu
[10:38] <jhutchins> myTB|Tanuva: They have a server version, but I wouldn't run it.
[10:38] <drew> i think i upgraded i dont remember
[10:38] <ypsila> ace: nice way to say, we do not know anything about your problem
[10:38] <maloco> bill gates is ...
[10:38] <skarface> my screen is blanking after a very short interval, but I have no screensaver enabled and the power saving is set for 45 minutes. is there anywhere else to check?
[10:38] <maloco> no
[10:38] <aldin> lordofheat:  u can find ur packages in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:39] <ypsila> drew: uname -r
[10:39] <ace> yea we need kubuntu+1
[10:39] <ace> common someone make it
[10:39] <myTB|Tanuva> jhutchins: (k)ubuntu is (after suse and a short time with gentoo) the _best_ distro I've seen
[10:39] <lordofheat> aldin, k, thnx
[10:39] <aldin> lordofheat: or in /var/cache/apt/archives/partial
[10:39] <jhutchins> drew: Look at Help/About KDE in any kde app.
[10:39] <maloco> :-)
[10:39] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: 5
[10:39] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: 5?
[10:39] <ypsila> jhutchins: kde version ist not kubuntu version!
[10:39] <drew> darn its dapper
[10:40] <jhutchins> ypsila: Correct, but niether is kernel.
[10:40] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: gib mir 5! kennst nicht
[10:40] <myTB|Tanuva> achso, doch kenn ich. kam mir aber grad nicht in den sinn :)
[10:40] <ypsila> jhutchins: but a kernel indicates more about a distribution than the kde version
[10:40] <N6REJ> afternoon all
[10:40] <ypsila> moin N6REJ
[10:40] <maloco> bziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:40] <nate_> could some one plz help me with getting my ps3 controllers to work in snes9x (kubuntu)
[10:41] <drew> look for a patch
[10:41] <jhutchins> ypsila: Try this: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:41] <nate_> idk where to find a patch ^
[10:41] <maloco> buuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[10:41] <nate_> i get this when i go to button configs "
[10:41] <nate_> Pad 1: /dev/js0
[10:41] <nate_> No such file or directory
[10:41] <ypsila> jhutchins: I do   k n o w  what I am running ober here!
[10:41] <jhutchins> drew: Sorry, it's lsb-release (there should have been a link to /etc/release, but there isn't).
[10:41] <myTB|Tanuva> maloco: did you try to scare us?
[10:42] <drew> im downloading edgy
[10:42] <jhutchins> ypsila: I know you do, which is why you'll see that that's such a good way to determine it for someone who DOESN'T know.
[10:42] <jhutchins> ypsila: kernels do get backported, don't they?
[10:43] <N6REJ> jhutchins: feel like helping me tackle a couple of issues?
[10:43] <myTB|Tanuva> jhutchins: but the kernel is the _real_ linux
[10:43] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Fire away, that's what I'm here for.
[10:43] <BluesKaj> hiyas jhutchins, N6REJ
[10:43] <jhutchins> myTB|Tanuva: Right, but it won't tell you what relaese you're running.
[10:43] <ypsila> jhutchins: sorry, but sometimes I'm just bored about what people dare to ask in a kubuntu channel compared to a debian
[10:44] <jhutchins> ypsila: Yeah, with debian kernel version means more.
[10:44] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: might come from that kub is a linux-newbie distro as it says on the homepage and debian is only recommended to experts
[10:44] <ypsila> jhutchins: and sometimes I do not really realize what I learnt about linux whithin some months
[10:44] <N6REJ> jhutchins: k, still having SOME issues with samba.  smb4k sees all the shares but won't let me mount them.  My goal is to have folders on the clients that are the same as the server, ie. if I save my music to /home/mp3 or whatever, its actually saving it on the server.  Like windows "map" commands.
[10:44] <N6REJ> heya BluesKaj
[10:45] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: its the most perfect newbie distribution I ever saw, and I'm absolutely happy with it, and all my "daus" too
[10:45] <jhutchins> N6REJ: I have two servers, a samba server and an NT4 server.  I mount the shares from them via fstab, using a machine account on each box.
[10:46] <jhutchins> The NT4 server acts as a domain master, and provides the login server for both of them, but that's not necessary.
[10:46] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: same here, I've learnt nothing about the *system* Im running while using yast, but doing the same in kub was a really new experience :D
[10:46] <N6REJ> jhutchins: that sounds fine.  The servers purpose is a file server so anything in the home dir can be shared as far as I'm concerned.
[10:46] <N6REJ> jhutchins: I have wins server active in samba just as an FYI
[10:47] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: on the other hand, it took me several years to get into "understanding" linux, reading a lot of books, getting no support from anybody, and I'm pretty proud to be where I am at my age!
[10:47] <jhutchins> N6REJ: I mount the shares as root, then for instance I do ln -s /server/Documments/<username> /home/<username>/Documents
[10:47] <jhutchins> N6REJ: /server/Documents being one of the mount points.
[10:47] <N6REJ> jhutchins: how do you mount it in fstab?
[10:48] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: thats what Im doing at the moment... but learning linux and c++ at the same time is damn hard (or time consuming...) :D
[10:48] <jhutchins> (Actually, it's /server/data/Documents...)
[10:48] <jhutchins> //cavern/Data /cavern/data smbfs credentials=/etc/samba/auth.cavern.wolfsden,dmask=777,fmask=777 0 0
[10:48] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: I'm 45 ;-)
[10:48] <myTB|Tanuva> 17 here :)
[10:49] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: see the difference? I could be your mum
[10:50] <jhutchins> N6REJ: /etc/samba/auth.cavern.wolfsden contains three lines, username = <name> \ domain = <DOMAIN> \ password = <password>
[10:50] <jhutchins> N6REJ: You can also put the username, domain, and password in fstab.
[10:50] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: yep. and theres so much to learn out there...
[10:50] <N6REJ> the /etc/samba is that client or server side?
[10:51] <oicu812> can u switch to k from gnome without reboot
[10:51] <jhutchins> N6REJ: This is for the clients.
[10:51] <N6REJ> k
[10:51] <ypsila> myTB|Tanuva: so may I invite you to join #kubuntu-de?
[10:51] <myTB|Tanuva> oicu812: simply re-login
[10:51] <myTB|Tanuva> ypsila: Im there since a few minutes yet :D
[10:51] <ypsila> ah
[10:51] <myTB|Tanuva> oicu812: after installing it ;)
[10:52] <oicu812> ya, i think i may only have gnome
[10:52] <dell190> Whats another good media player other than Amarox.. it keeps sayin xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers
[10:52] <N6REJ> jhutchins: how do I verify what the domain is?  everything is "nat".  Or should I burn a domain name I have?
[10:52] <oicu812> i got all my xine codecs yesterday\
[10:53] <oicu812> works great now
[10:53] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Here's one of my shares from the samba server: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14275/
[10:53] <jhutchins> N6REJ: The SMB/Windows domain is WINS, not IP.
[10:54] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Doesn't really matter what it is, I think the default is "WORKGROUP", but I would make it something meaningful to you.
[10:54] <N6REJ> OH ok, "OFFICE" is what I use.
[10:55] <pollyo> Do they have an official how-to on setting up Samba on kubuntu?
[10:56] <pollyo> !samba
[10:56] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:56] <gdiebel> uh: /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon seems to not be working. I type 'sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon status' and get no output. same with  .. restart
[10:56] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Here's a working global section: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14276/
[10:58] <dell190> do anyone know how to fix that error
[10:58] <jhutchins> Note that all of those scripts are probably unnecessary.
[10:58] <jhutchins> N6REJ: ^
[10:59] <fdoving> gdiebel: works for me.
[10:59] <jhutchins> dell190_: Do you have the xine amarok engine installed?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> Swat is totally useless to most noobs ...the lingo assumes one knows what the terminology means..by the time one learns what the terms mean samba will prolly be working from just fooling around with it :)
[11:00] <jhutchins> dell190_: amarok-xine, should have been pulled when you installed amarok.
[11:00] <dell190> yes
[11:01] <dell190> i even reinstalled Amarok, and it still don't work
[11:01] <jhutchins> dell190_: You probably want amarok-engines, kdemultimedia-kio-plugins libvisual-0.4-plugins, and the xine extra codecs.
[11:01] <BluesKaj> smb4k works ..it isn't too difficult to get going
[11:02] <jhutchins> dell190_: libxine-extracodecs for mp3 support
[11:02] <jhutchins> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:02] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[11:02] <trond> I tend to get this error from all X-apps run from a gnome-terminal. All programs launches ok however. X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 157
[11:02] <trond>   Major opcode:  145
[11:02] <trond>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:02] <trond>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:02] <trond> Failed to open device
[11:02] <trond> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 157
[11:02] <trond>   Major opcode:  145
[11:02] <trond>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:02] <trond>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:02] <trond> Failed to open device
[11:02] <N6REJ> jhutchins: here's what I currently have.
[11:02] <N6REJ> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14278/
[11:02] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | trond
[11:02] <ubotu> trond: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Do me a favor: grep -v # /etc/samba/smb.conf and post that instead (no comments)
[11:04] <oicu812> i dont see the k desktop environment in the addons
[11:04] <jhutchins> trond: Probably just the wacom support.
[11:04] <oicu812> its not preinstalled?
[11:05] <jhutchins> oicu812: kubuntu-desktop (I think)
[11:05] <jhutchins> oicu812: What addons?
[11:07] <nate_> is there anyone out their running ubuntu/kubuntu on ps3?
[11:07] <oicu812> add/remove applications
[11:07] <hendaus> somebody help me!
[11:07] <SeanTater> hendaus: state your issue
[11:08] <BluesKaj> nate, I'm sure you cann...what other specs ?
[11:08] <jhutchins> It's just a different front-end.
[11:08] <jhutchins> <wrong tab, sorry>
[11:08] <johey> Hi!
[11:08] <hendaus> SeanTater,  do u have kde?
[11:08] <N6REJ> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14279/
[11:08] <SeanTater> hendaus: Yes.
[11:08] <N6REJ> brb, gotta restart session :(
[11:09] <jjnickerson> for some reason, im stuck on metacity and cant switch the manager over to beryl
[11:09] <nate_> no one knows how to set up gamepads in kubuntu? :(
[11:09] <jjnickerson> can anybody help?
[11:09] <hendaus> SeanTater,  i search about 20 files on amule and till now no one seeding
[11:09] <johey> When trying to set up a program to start when my camera is plugged in, i just get a popup message like it cannot find /. What can I do about it?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> hendaus: use ktorrent
[11:09] <hitmanWilly> jjnickerson, do you have compositing enabled?
[11:09] <hendaus> SeanTater, is there an accelerating thing
[11:10] <jjnickerson> set to auto
[11:10] <hitmanWilly> jjnickerson, in xorg.conf
[11:10] <SeanTater> hendaus: Unfortunately, I do not use Amule.
[11:11] <SeanTater> hendaus: Is it a frontend to Bittorrent?
[11:11] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  the movies that are ed2k on amule , i cant found it on .torrent
[11:11] <SeanTater> gtg
[11:11] <hendaus> SeanTater,  no its ed2k
[11:11] <BluesKaj> hendaus:  they'll take forever to DL in that case
[11:12] <hendaus> lol
[11:12] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  so there is no way to make it fastly?
[11:12] <jhutchins> jjnickerson: #ubuntu-effects might help
[11:12] <nate_> is there anyone out their running ubuntu/kubuntu on ps3?
[11:12] <N6REJ> back
[11:12] <N6REJ> jhutchins: had to totally reboot :(
[11:13] <jhutchins> Ok, what seems to be the problem then?
[11:13] <BluesKaj> you have to search a lot of torrent sites , get the firefox torrent extension addon
[11:14] <jjnickerson> nothing is doing it, every time i go to switch maanger, all the windows have a small spasm and then it goes right back to metacity
[11:14] <nate_> for anyone out their who uses emulators how did you set up your gamepads/install drivers?????
[11:14] <hendaus> BluesKaj, can u tell me where to search torrents?
[11:15] <ypsila> hendaus: ktorrent?
[11:15] <hendaus> BluesKaj,  firefox addon,where is this?
[11:15] <N6REJ> hendaus: click "tools --> addons" in FF and it will take you there.
[11:16] <BluesKaj> open firefox browser, tools/addons/get extensions
[11:16] <hendaus> ypsila, i search from amule old movies but on torrentscannot found anyone of them
[11:16] <N6REJ> jhutchins: did you get my pastebin?
[11:16] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Yes.
[11:16] <N6REJ> k
[11:17] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Is it doing what you want it to do?
[11:17] <dettoaltrimenti> is there any way on the command line for me to unzip a large number of .7z compressed files to one folder?
[11:17] <N6REJ> jhutchins: I haven't gotten past making the additions to smb.conf.  Now I need to make the auth file.
[11:17] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, yes, install p7zip-full
[11:17] <N6REJ> I only have 2 users I need to worry about.
[11:18] <Arwen> dettoaltrimenti, then do "for i in *.7z ; do 7z x -o<folderpathfull> $i"
[11:19] <dettoaltrimenti> thank you very much arwen
[11:19] <dell190> where do i find the "Audio Drivers"?
[11:20] <N6REJ> jhutchins: so I'm assuming that the auth file needs to look like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14280/
[11:20] <dell190> both Kaffeine and Amarok don;t work  :(
[11:21] <N6REJ> jhutchins: no, is the short answer, I can see the shares using smb4k, but can't do anything with them.  I haven't tried sense I changed music.
[11:22] <N6REJ> jhutchins: works in windows though at least for reading, let me try writing.
[11:22] <jhutchins> dell190: /lib/modules/<kernel version>/kernel/sound/
[11:23] <Arwen> linux sucks!
[11:23] <N6REJ> jhutchins: writing doesn't work.  Says "cannot create the \\Driftwood\troy\smb.conf file  make sure that the path and filename are correct.
[11:23] <PF-Away> apple sucks!
[11:23] <Arwen> lol
[11:23] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Is that the auth file from fstab?
[11:24] <N6REJ> jhutchins: mmmmmmmm no
[11:24] <jhutchins> N6REJ: What auth file?
[11:24] <PF-Away> Arwen: apple hates me
[11:24] <realbt> has anyone experienced problems with adept not loading the dist-upgrade tool trying to go from edgy to feisty?
[11:24] <Arwen> PF-Away, lol
[11:24] <N6REJ> jhutchins: the one you said to make?
[11:24] <cox377> can anyone recommend a good app for rar files, basically... i am looking for very similar functionality than winrar
[11:24] <jhutchins> realbt: Check in #ubuntu+1
[11:24] <N6REJ> jhutchins: for fstab
[11:24] <PF-Away> Arwen: itunes 7 is incompatible with amarok networkwise, and the ipod firmware is encrypted, so i can't put ipodlinux on it
[11:25] <N6REJ> jhutchins: apparently according to samba there are no write privileges currently.
[11:25] <jhutchins> N6REJ: I don't know if that will work.  I mount the shares using an username/password for each machine, not each user.
[11:25] <Arwen> PF-Away, hmm.... tried qtfairuse6?
[11:25] <PF-Away> Arwen: i mean network sharing
[11:25] <Arwen> oh wait, ipods? nvm
[11:25] <N6REJ> jhutchins: ok.  I don't know, I'm just trying to get this silly thing to work.
[11:25] <PF-Away> Arwen: the #amarok-people said apple did it on purpose
[11:26] <Arwen> probably
[11:26] <Arwen> they like being anti-competitive and then blaming MS for it
[11:26] <[RIP] d3jake> heh, that's Apple for ya ;)
[11:26] <PF-Away> i think they want to pretend being a monopoly
[11:26] <N6REJ> ok, I think what you did for music will solve the problem.
[11:26] <hitmanWilly> apple and M$ are two sides of the same coin
[11:26] <N6REJ> cause I just created a file in /music
[11:26] <jhutchins> N6REJ: So I just have one user in the auth file, and mine has for instance user = wolfsden - each line has a space-seperated definition.
[11:26] <N6REJ> k
[11:26] <BluesKaj> apple , extremely proprietary in their product policies
[11:27] <PF-Away> at least apple follows open standards
[11:27] <PF-Away> XML, OpenGL, etc.
[11:27] <fdoving> !offtopic
[11:27] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:28] <PF-Away> quiet...
[11:28] <PF-Away> but i have a problem when i shut down my computer
[11:28] <PF-Away> the progress bar is not working very well
[11:28] <N6REJ> jhutchins: like this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14281/
[11:28] <PF-Away> it takes several seconds to come up, and then jumps right down to ~10% and my computer turns off
[11:29] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Just like that.
[11:29] <nosrednaekim> PF-Away: eh... don't worry about it
[11:29] <PF-Away> nosrednaekim: i like to worry;)
[11:29] <PF-Away> is it a known fault?
[11:29] <N6REJ> jhutchins: ok, great.  fyi, reading and writing to /home/music works great now in windows.  Let me try nix.
[11:29] <jhutchins> This means ALL shares that use that auth file will be accessed from the server as user troy.
[11:29] <N6REJ> jhutchins: perfect
[11:29] <iosbilario> hello friends
[11:29] <nosrednaekim> PF-Away: it happens to me...I just tured off the splash so it wouldn't bother me
[11:30] <PF-Away> nosrednaekim: well, i rarely see the shutdown, but i just noticed yesterday
[11:30] <nosrednaekim> oh..ok
[11:30] <PF-Away> booting up is rather okay, though
[11:30] <jhutchins> PF-Away: The timing of the start-up and shut-down progress bars is not real anyway.
[11:31] <PF-Away> jhutchins: but I would like it to at least show something about how far it had gone
[11:31] <PF-Away> like 10% of shutdown scripts finished = 10% of the bar left
[11:31] <jhutchins> PF-Away: The only way to really do that is to allow the verbose display and know what it means.
[11:32] <PF-Away> jhutchins: that's another thing i'm wondering about. is it possible to get verbose without alt+f7 (or whatever)
[11:32] <PF-Away> ?
[11:32] <jhutchins> PF-Away: The progress bar, like I said, doesn't actually measure anything.
[11:32] <PF-Away> i know some distros have f2
[11:32] <N6REJ> jhutchins: sweet! I just copied all my mp3's to the server!
[11:32] <jhutchins> PF-Away: Yeah, like nosrednaekim said, turn off splash.
[11:32] <nosrednaekim> that turns off the boot and the shutdown splash
[11:32] <PF-Away> jhutchins: in gentoo, the fbsplash had icons for the different scripts, along with a status bar
[11:32] <PF-Away> really nifty
[11:33] <PF-Away> :D
[11:33] <nosrednaekim> well.... thats gentoo...
[11:33] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Advanced project:  Have amarok use a common database on the server instead of individual databases on each workstation.
[11:33] <PF-Away> i just got a gfxboot-patched grub
[11:33] <N6REJ> jhutchins: yes, thats what I want!  All music goes on the file server.
[11:33] <jhutchins> PF-Away: True about gentoo, but it's still not actually indicating progress, it's simulating it.
[11:34] <nosrednaekim> N6REJ: how about using ampache?
[11:34] <PF-Away> jhutchins: well, i could see how many scripts who where finished
[11:34] <PF-Away> that's progress for me
[11:35] <nosrednaekim> by gentoo? I thought that anybody who went to gentoo stayed there..
[11:35] <jhutchins> PF-Away: As long as you _think_ it means something, you're happy.
[11:35] <PF-Away> nosrednaekim: i ran away after two years;)
[11:35] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Actually, most have abandoned ship.
[11:35] <PF-Away> jhutchins: i'm actually quite pleased with the boot up progress bar, it isn't very much off
[11:36] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: "I need to do real work with my computer, not spend all my $@@#$ time compiling updates!"
[11:36] <nosrednaekim> jhutchins: My feelings exactly
[11:36] <jhutchins> nosrednaekim: Pretty much everybody's.
[11:36] <jhutchins> It got old.
[11:37] <PF-Away> i was also tired of not being able to just let it compile overnight
[11:37] <nosrednaekim> I wish you could get .deb packages with really good ops...:-P
[11:37] <PF-Away> it was sometimes one broken compile in one of the early packages
[11:37] <PF-Away> nosrednaekim: if the gentoo kde-herd jumped ship to kubuntu, i would be very pleased
[11:37] <PF-Away> ;)
[11:37] <jhutchins> We are off-topic again.
[11:38] <PF-Away> sorry...
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> I would love to have a repo  with all packages compiled with 2-core support
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> and 64bit
[11:38] <nosrednaekim> and all ops turned on...
[11:38] <PF-Away> :D
[11:39] <hendaus> PF-Away,  on amule i am downloading 20 movies and until now noone seeding?
[11:39] <PF-Away> hendaus: wtf do you use amule, then?;)
[11:39] <PF-Away> from what I read in the papers, all the big guys use bittorrent nowadays
[11:40] <nosrednaekim> isn't that what amule is?
[11:40] <hendaus> PF-Away,  yes las week i download 10 movies from amule, but old movies and now there are 20 movies and no one seeding
[11:40] <PF-Away> is amule bittorrent?
[11:41] <hendaus> no
[11:41] <hendaus> amule are ed2k
[11:41] <hendaus> and bittorrent are .torrent
[11:42] <hendaus> remember when i told u when i click on an ed2k link it shows a message that says follow?
[11:43] <PF-Away> yeah
[11:43] <PF-Away> it works now, does it?
[11:43] <hendaus> PF-Away,  can u block this message?
[11:43] <hendaus> yes it works
[11:44] <PF-Away> hendaus: i don't think it's possible to remove that message
[11:44] <PF-Away> but you can ask politely in #kde
[11:44] <PF-Away> ;)
[11:44] <jhutchins> hendaus: Really, really off topic.
[11:45] <hendaus> PF-Away,  ok can u help me with it on firefox maybe it is better than konqueror
[11:45] <flyte_> !freenx
[11:45] <ubotu> FreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[11:45] <PF-Away> jhutchins: not really, konqueror is popping up a nice message everytime he follows ed2k links;)
[11:45] <PF-Away> hendaus: i  don't do firefox;)
[11:45] <fdoving> hendaus: #amule for amule support.
[11:45] <dell190> is it possible to fix kubuntu like you can with Windows?
[11:46] <PF-Away> dell190: how?
[11:46] <hendaus> PF-Away,  i gave u the site yesterday
[11:46] <dell190> like the repair CD
[11:46] <dell190> because Amarok don't seem to want to work
[11:47] <PF-Away> dell190: reinstall amarok
[11:47] <PF-Away> dell190: or ask for help in #amarok
[11:47] <dell190> Thankx
[11:47] <PF-Away> dell190: you might have to remove amarok's config files
[11:47] <N6REJ> jhutchins: hows this look?  I'm not sure about the cdrom setting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14289/
[11:47] <PF-Away> dell190: "fixing" your os with an install CD is not really a good thing;)
[11:48] <dell190> how di i remove the conf files
[11:48] <dell190> **Do
[11:48] <hendaus> PF-Away, i have a .rm file and it opens with kaffeine and doesnot work,is there a codec
[11:49] <josh_> im running kubuntu, have a 80gb external NTFS drive.  When I run the command sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /media/usbdisk it comes up fine... but how can I make it permanently work?
[11:49] <PF-Away> dell190: look in the hidden ".kde" folder in your home dir
[11:49] <PF-Away> dell190: under "shared/config" or "shared/apps"
[11:49] <PF-Away> hendaus: i'm not really sure
[11:51] <PF-Away> !fstab | josh_
[11:51] <ubotu> josh_: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[11:51] <PF-Away> !partitions | josh_
[11:51] <ubotu> josh_: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:51] <hendaus> PF-Away,  ok i open it with vlc,but everytime if i want to click on the kaffeine icon and right lick on it to open the file with vlc
[11:51] <PF-Away> hendaus: hit alt+f2
[11:51] <PF-Away> hendaus: type "kcontrol"
[11:51] <hendaus> ok
[11:52] <PF-Away> search for "file asso"
[11:52] <josh_> i added it to my fstab file, /dev/hdb1 /media/usbdisk ntfs-3g silent,umask=0 0 0 but it wont work
[11:52] <PF-Away> josh_: have you rebooted?
[11:52] <josh_> yes
[11:52] <PF-Away> josh_: does /media/usbdisk exist?
[11:52] <fdoving> josh_: does 'sudo mount /media/usbdisk' work?
[11:52] <josh_> no errors, but then when I force mount under root, it pops up on my user desktop
[11:52] <josh_> yes
[11:53] <PF-Away> josh_: what happens when you do what fdoving said?
[11:53] <hendaus> PF-Away,  ok file associations
[11:53] <josh_> josh@josh-laptop:/media/usbdisk$ sudo mount /media/usbdisk
[11:53] <josh_> [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:53] <josh_> Failed to access '/dev/hdb1': No such file or directory
[11:53] <PF-Away> hendaus: search for "rm"
[11:53] <PF-Away> josh_: you must have a newline at the end of fstab
[11:53] <BluesKaj> how do I restore the toolbar icons in konverstion ?
[11:54] <PF-Away> josh_: and /dev/hdb1 doesn't exist
[11:54] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: settings -> toolbars
[11:54] <josh_> damn user error. sorry
[11:54] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: click on "Defaults"
[11:54] <hendaus> PF-Away,  vnd,rn realmedia
[11:54] <josh_> thank you
[11:54] <PF-Away> hendaus: click on it
[11:54] <hendaus> PF-Away,  ok
[11:55] <PF-Away> hendaus: now, to the right, click on "VLC", and then click on "move up"
[11:55] <PF-Away> ok?
[11:55] <josh_> gonna reboot
[11:55] <BluesKaj> PF-Away: getting blind in my old age ,:)
[11:55] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: aren't we all;)
[11:56] <hendaus> PF-Away,  so now kaffeine first and vlc second
[11:56] <PF-Away> hendaus: click on "apply"
[11:56] <BluesKaj> yeah, but I'm 63 , PF-Away
[11:56] <PF-Away> lower right
[11:56] <PF-Away> BluesKaj: you're at the end of 8 bit, then
[11:56] <hendaus> PF-Away,  ok done
[11:56] <PF-Away> hendaus: now try to double click on a .rm file
[11:57] <hendaus> ok
[11:57] <flyte_> !psftp
[11:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about psftp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <PF-Away> !info psftp
[11:57] <ubotu> Package psftp does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:57] <lordofheat> !info webmin
[11:57] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:58] <PF-Away> !liar
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about liar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <hendaus> PF-Away,  it opens with kaffeine, --> A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: cook.so
[11:58] <BluesKaj> PF-Away: that 8 bit remark went right over my head :)
[11:58] <PF-Away> hah!
[12:00] <BluesKaj> another apple proprietary chat utlity i bet .. http://www.snak.com/...isn't ircle expensive enuff ?
[12:01] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes done now :)
[12:01] <PhinnFort> hendaus: it works?
[12:01] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  thank u , but the icon stills kaffeine
[12:01] <hendaus> yes it opens with vlc
[12:02] <SubOne> how can i move files from one linux box to another?
[12:02] <aaroncampbell> I'm trying to build a debian package like this: aaroncampbell@aaron-linux:~$ dpkg -b magicolor2430DL-1.5.0 but I keep getting dpkg-deb: parse error, in file `magicolor2430DL-1.5.0/DEBIAN/control' near line 7: missing package name
[12:03] <aaroncampbell> the control file it's talking about: http://paste-bin.com/11360
[12:04] <josh_> so i rebooted, i get an error during bootup /dev/sdb1 not found... when I boot back into kubuntu..,. still nothing. unless I type mount /media/usbdisk
[12:05] <hendaus> PhinnFort, wb
[12:05] <PhinnFort> darn crappy connection
[12:05] <PhinnFort> thanks;)
[12:05] <PhinnFort> now, does it work?
[12:05] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:05] <josh_> if I unplug the USB cable, it disappears. when I plug it back in, it doesnt come back
[12:05] <hendaus> PhinnFort, now tell me kubuntu support intel camera?
[12:05] <PhinnFort> josh_: dmesg | tail
[12:05] <PhinnFort> hendaus: i don't know
[12:05] <PhinnFort> try ;)
[12:06] <hendaus> my camera is intel and doesnot detect it :(
[12:06] <josh_> PhinnFort: which line do you need?
[12:06] <PhinnFort> josh_: can you paste the whole dmesg?
[12:07] <PhinnFort> !paste | josh_
[12:07] <ubotu> josh_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:07] <livingdaylight> hi guys
[12:07] <PhinnFort> hendaus: tried in kopete?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> is Kubuntu Feisty rocking?
[12:07] <PhinnFort> yeah
[12:08] <livingdaylight> is Feisty ready PhinnFort?
[12:08] <josh_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14297/
[12:08] <PhinnFort> livingdaylight: for me, it is, but...
[12:08] <PhinnFort> !worksforme
[12:08] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[12:08] <N6REJ> jhutchins: hows that look?
[12:08] <jhutchins> livingdaylight: Feisty is still in #ubuntu+1.
[12:09] <jhutchins> N6REJ: Looks fine.  You can always tweak, tune and <GASP!> experiment.
[12:09] <N6REJ> jhutchins: cc.... I'm trying to get amarok to use mysql on the server for the database right now.  So far no luck.
[12:09] <N6REJ> jhutchins: but I'm still trying.
[12:10] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  :( the samething
[12:10] <jhutchins> I don't think I'd take that on myself, supporte seemed a bit tenuous last time I chatted with the amarok guys.
[12:10] <hendaus> cannot detect
[12:10] <jhutchins> N6REJ: That's why I said it was an "advanced" project.
[12:11] <N6REJ> jhutchins: yep, np.. I think it may need some fields... I'm reading :D
[12:11] <PhinnFort> !webcam | hendaus
[12:11] <ubotu> hendaus: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:11] <PhinnFort> josh_: i really don't see why your harddrive isn't showing up
[12:12] <mloo> you can find a lot of drivers for popular cams over here: http://mxhaard.free.fr/
[12:12] <mloo> it worked great for my logitec