| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: nixternal feisty * r4063 /kubuntu/firefox-startpage/kindex-de.html: German Kubuntu FF startpage | 12:34 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #103549 in ubuntu-docs (main) "Possible private comment in basic-commands in Ubuntu Feisty package "ubuntu-docs"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103549 | 02:50 |
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| Susana | hi, since the importing of ubuntu-docs starts today, i would just like to point out bug 103549 where a private comment is made in a string | 02:55 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 103549 in ubuntu-docs "Possible private comment in basic-commands in Ubuntu Feisty package "ubuntu-docs"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103549 | 02:55 |
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| nixternal | hiya jjesse | 04:11 |
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| shirish | any wiki writers here? | 10:00 |
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| mdke | morning | 11:07 |
| mdke | morning | 11:20 |
| mdke | ouch, damn scrollback | 11:20 |
| mdke | nixternal: damn, that's a nasty bug. Is that in kubuntu too? | 11:21 |
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| mdke | Gwaihir: I'm going to try and fix that xreflabel stuff; I *think* that it can be done without any string changes | 11:31 |
| Gwaihir | mdke: that would be great! | 11:33 |
| Gwaihir | mdke: what about the internal link to GNOME guide? | 11:34 |
| mdke | Gwaihir: doing that now too, no string change | 11:35 |
| Gwaihir | wonderful! | 11:36 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r4064 /ubuntu/ (20 files in 20 dirs): | 11:36 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: * fixing internal link in newtoubuntu to enable localisations - bug 103308 | 11:36 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 103308 in ubuntu-docs "newtoubuntu documents has link to English version of user-guide rather than localised version" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103308 | 11:37 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: * removing embarassing aside from basic-commands - bug 103549 | 11:37 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 103549 in ubuntu-docs "Possible private comment in basic-commands in Ubuntu Feisty package "ubuntu-docs"" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103549 | 11:37 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: * refreshing pot files | 11:37 |
| mdke | there is a string change in basic-commands though, I'll post to -translators now | 11:37 |
| Gwaihir | ok... i'll check launchpad... | 11:37 |
| mdke | I didn't upload it yet | 11:39 |
| Gwaihir | I see :) | 11:39 |
| Gwaihir | but I'll refresh the page once in a while ;) | 11:40 |
| mdke | ok | 11:40 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r4065 /ubuntu/ (18 files in 18 dirs): removing erroneous xreflabels from windows doc, no string changes | 11:43 |
| mdke | Gwaihir: ^^ | 11:44 |
| Gwaihir | mdke: | 11:45 |
| Gwaihir | uplaoded? | 11:45 |
| mdke | that's our svn | 11:45 |
| Gwaihir | ok | 11:45 |
| mdke | I've also uploaded the basic-commands.pot to rosetta, I don't know how long it takes to import it though | 11:47 |
| Gwaihir | how much time do we have before the freeze? | 11:48 |
| mdke | I dunno | 11:48 |
| mdke | it depends on when I have time to download the translations | 11:48 |
| mdke | I'll do it tomorrow I think | 11:48 |
| mdke | I can't really leave it until later because I'll be too busy after that | 11:49 |
| Gwaihir | ok | 11:50 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke * r4066 ubuntu/ (3 files in 3 dirs): updating with my changes to branches/feisty | 11:55 |
| Gwaihir | I'm going for lunch,,, see you later! | 11:57 |
| ubotu | New bug: #103663 in ubuntu-docs (main) "typo in basic-commands.xml" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103663 | 12:10 |
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| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r4067 /ubuntu/about-ubuntu/about-ubuntu-C.omf: we need this back... it's broken the panel entry | 02:59 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r4068 /ubuntu/about-ubuntu/ (C/about-ubuntu-C.omf about-ubuntu-C.omf about-ubuntu.pot): moving omf file to the right place, refreshing pot template | 03:01 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r4069 /ubuntu/about-ubuntu/ (160 files in 80 dirs): refreshing translations to add omf files | 03:06 |
| CIA-12 | Ubuntu Documentation: mdke feisty * r4070 /ubuntu/get-pot.sh: simplify this script | 03:08 |
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| nixternal | mdke: the personal note to self bug? | 03:24 |
| nixternal | or the preparing.xml bug :) | 03:24 |
| nixternal | the preparing one is nasty, but if you remember you and LaserJock told me about how evil xreflabels were, so I replaced everyone of them in Kubuntu docs | 03:25 |
| mdke | nixternal: the former. | 03:26 |
| nixternal | ya, I don't have either of those files, so Kubuntu is good | 03:26 |
| nixternal | my nasty bug right now is "the the" :) | 03:27 |
| nixternal | I am not even worried about fixing that in feisty | 03:27 |
| mdke | no, not a biggie | 03:28 |
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| ubotu | New bug: #103769 in kubuntu-docs (main) "Bad translations" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103769 | 05:15 |
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| nemphis | hi all | 06:56 |
| nemphis | i've a little question | 06:56 |
| osg | hi | 06:57 |
| nemphis | under which licence are the community docs (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation) available? | 06:58 |
| osg | Not sure. | 07:03 |
| osg | I could not find anything by searching for license or related terms. | 07:03 |
| nemphis | osg: me too | 07:04 |
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| nemphis | osg: i found something about the licence on this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/License, but i'm not sure whether it applies to the community docs also. | 07:08 |
| osg | Looks like you found your answer. | 07:12 |
| nemphis | osg: ok. thanks for your help. | 07:31 |
| nemphis | good bye | 07:31 |
| osg | np | 07:31 |
| osg | heh | 07:31 |
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| mdke | osg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiLicensing has the answer | 09:06 |
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| LaserJock | hi mdke | 09:30 |
| mdke | ello there LaserJock | 09:31 |
| mdke | all well? | 09:31 |
| LaserJock | I suppose | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | I'm home sick | 09:32 |
| mdke | how come? | 09:32 |
| LaserJock | I've got a cold | 09:32 |
| mdke | I mean, why aren't you home? | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | I am | 09:33 |
| mdke | ah | 09:33 |
| mdke | "I'm home, sick" as opposed to "I'm homesick" | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | I'm at home, sick | 09:33 |
| mdke | doh | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | sorry | 09:33 |
| mdke | my bad :) | 09:33 |
| mdke | get better soon | 09:33 |
| LaserJock | I think I managed to get edubuntu-docs in decent shape with sbalneav's help | 09:34 |
| mdke | right | 09:34 |
| mdke | by the way, I just got your email to the list about that today... | 09:34 |
| mdke | it was dated quite a bit earlier, must be some list issues still | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 09:34 |
| mdke | I'll request an account for him | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | I just got it too | 09:34 |
| LaserJock | I think it was part of the lists.ubuntu.com problems lately | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | that would be greatly appreciated | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | I even managed to get some .pots up | 09:35 |
| mdke | cool | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/edubuntu-docs/+pots/ | 09:36 |
| mdke | nice job | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | obviously not a lot of time for translation | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | but the system's all there | 09:36 |
| mdke | plenty of time for updates | 09:36 |
| mdke | and next release will be super :) | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | your yelp patch works wonderfully :-) | 09:36 |
| mdke | good | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | that's a big help | 09:36 |
| mdke | I've broken the about-ubuntu panel entry with the last ubuntu-docs upload ;) | 09:37 |
| mdke | seems that it needs the omf file to work | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | uh oh :-) | 09:37 |
| mdke | simple fix, fortunately | 09:37 |
| LaserJock | man, I've realized a lot with edubuntu-docs how difficult all this stuff is | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | translations, yelp frontpage, etc. | 09:38 |
| mdke | naahhh | 09:38 |
| mdke | I would have thought the rest of Ubuntu is a lot harder! | 09:38 |
| LaserJock | I guess it depends | 09:39 |
| mdke | what's edubuntu-about.desktop? | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | I'll still think packaging "normal" stuff is easier | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | that's the About Edubuntu menu entry | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | it sits next to the About Ubuntu one | 09:39 |
| mdke | that doesn't get done in gnome-panel? | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | nope | 09:39 |
| mdke | how is the Ubuntu one translated? | 09:39 |
| LaserJock | it's included in the gnome-panel translation | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | the problem is that if it was in gnome-panel then it'd show up on Ubuntu user's machines too | 09:40 |
| mdke | hmm | 09:40 |
| mdke | oh, right | 09:40 |
| mdke | good job with that :) | 09:40 |
| LaserJock | and since it's part of Edubuntu docs I figured we should just do it | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | sooo, I had to figure out how to do it | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | so I got seb128 to add in a patch to gnome-panel to show it if edubuntu-docs was installed | 09:41 |
| mdke | although, the about-ubuntu entry only shows up if ubuntu-docs is installed, so it probably wouldn't be a problem to have it in gnome-panel too | 09:41 |
| LaserJock | and then manually made a pot for it | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | mdke: true, I just figured it made more sense to keep it in edubuntu-docs | 09:42 |
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| LaserJock | I don't like having stuff scattered around | 09:42 |
| LaserJock | it's more difficult for people to find | 09:42 |
| mdke | probably more sensible than the way about-ubuntu is done | 09:42 |
| mdke | it can't take the string from an existing one, like the omf file? | 09:43 |
| mdke | to save you having a separate pot template | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | hmmm | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | there are only 2 strings in it | 09:43 |
| LaserJock | 1 is a dup, since it's just "About Edubuntu" | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | but the other one is probably not | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | but yeah, I hadn't thought of grabing the string from somewhere else | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | although ... | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | the cool think about the .desktop is I don't have to bring the translations back in | 09:44 |
| LaserJock | the translations will go into the lang packs | 09:45 |
| mdke | ah, nice yeah | 09:45 |
| mdke | but then again, you have to do it for the omf file anyway ;) | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | so I just install the English file | 09:45 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 09:46 |
| LaserJock | this translation stuff is still very new to me | 09:47 |
| LaserJock | I wish I was even the slightest bit bilingual | 09:48 |
| mdke | I'm not sure that's possible | 09:49 |
| mdke | :p | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | I gotta try to get some Spanish in before UDS ;-) | 09:53 |
| nixternal | uno mas por favor | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | hehe, I know that one | 09:54 |
| nixternal | ya, Mexico is my second home, and I took Spanish in highschool and grew up around latinos, so I can understand it and speak a lil bit | 09:54 |
| mdke | nixternal from the block | 09:54 |
| nixternal | haha yes | 09:55 |
| nixternal | in my ghetto, or hood | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | well, I didn't grow up with a lot of "diversity" in the backwoods of Montana | 09:55 |
| j0hndeere | yo quiero tacos | 09:55 |
| nixternal | oh no you didn't | 09:55 |
| j0hndeere | ...that's about all the Espanol I know. | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | but here in Nevada there's a lot of Spanish speakers | 09:55 |
| nixternal | man, I have a talk to give at UIC tomorrow, and then I somehow got involved in the battle of the distros | 09:55 |
| LaserJock | sweet | 09:56 |
| nixternal | my botd though, my starting line will own um all | 09:56 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu vs * ? | 09:56 |
| nixternal | Fedora, SUSE, Gentoo, Linspire, Slackware... | 09:56 |
| nixternal | Fedora and them will hit the "Ubuntu isn't FREE" | 09:56 |
| nixternal | so because of that, I have the "who in here has a ton of mp3's? uses and loves Google?" | 09:56 |
| nixternal | you know all of those who use the Ubuntu is not FREE will raise their hands | 09:57 |
| nixternal | as soon as they do, they are toast, it works every time | 09:57 |
| j0hndeere | the linux distros need to call off their own bickering if they wish to not be crushed by microsoft, IMO | 09:57 |
| LaserJock | Ubuntu's as Free as you want it to be | 09:57 |
| LaserJock | that's the coolest part | 09:57 |
| nixternal | this time though I have to start out with "my apologies for this one Chris" as DiBona will be there watchin' | 09:57 |
| nixternal | there will be no crushing by Microsoft. What Linux distros need to do is continue the bickering, but get rid of the mindset that Linux will not be mainstream | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | I'd think Suse would be the only big competition | 09:58 |
| nixternal | the bickering leads to improvements. you want to see bickering, work with Microsoft for a week | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | Fedora just doesn't work very well | 09:58 |
| nixternal | well, Fedora 7 is nice | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | Gentoo takes too much time | 09:58 |
| LaserJock | Slackware is a throw-back | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | and Linspire ... | 09:59 |
| nixternal | hey now, Slackware will always be my favorite I think | 09:59 |
| nixternal | hehe | 09:59 |
| nixternal | ya, I am going to do "and Linspire..." and just start laughing hard | 09:59 |
| nixternal | I doubt anyone will be batteling for Linspire, but what I may do is say "Linspire, it is OK, let papa Ubuntu take you under our wing" | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | I've never tried Slackware, and probably never will | 10:00 |
| nixternal | ya, it takes some work | 10:00 |
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| nixternal | but making a tgz is a heck of a lot easier than making .deb | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | yeah, but that's why people like me exist | 10:01 |
| nixternal | see, another thing people tend to forget about with Ubuntu, is we fulfill 4 niches | 10:01 |
| nixternal | no other distro does that | 10:01 |
| LaserJock | to make the .debs for people | 10:01 |
| nixternal | good, you can start making my .debs :) | 10:01 |
| nixternal | we fulfill 4 niches ootb with 3 DEs | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | I said for "people" not Chitown distro mobsters ;-) | 10:02 |
| nixternal | haha | 10:02 |
| nixternal | tomorrow is going to be classic, we have a couple of hundred people meeting up at the 2600 hacking location, then walking over gangster style | 10:03 |
| nixternal | Ubuntu representation right now at the event, is easily 50 to 1 | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | "Ya gonna use Ubuntu, or I'll hav Tony here wack ya" | 10:03 |
| nixternal | my eyes in the sky are like this is an Ubuntu event, nobody cares about anything else | 10:03 |
| nixternal | it is whack btw ;p | 10:03 |
| nixternal | someone corrected me not even 2 hours ago | 10:04 |
| LaserJock | well, I was going to say "ice ya" that would have been better | 10:04 |
| nixternal | hahah | 10:04 |
| nixternal | the only thing I have yet to figure out, is with my laptop, native is 1280x800 | 10:04 |
| nixternal | when I do presentations, the output is the same, and a majority of projectors don't display the entire screen | 10:05 |
| nixternal | I have tried to setup both Ubuntu and Kubuntu to display on the 2nd monitor at 1024x768 and it just will not do it | 10:05 |
| LaserJock | so can you switch your laptop to 1024x768? | 10:06 |
| nixternal | yup | 10:06 |
| nixternal | hrmm | 10:06 |
| nixternal | I could do that and live with the ugliness I guess | 10:06 |
| nixternal | I will have to try that now | 10:06 |
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| bdmurray | nixternal: you might ask kees he has a wide screen laptop and uses a projector with it | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | yikes, bdmurray is everywhere :-) | 10:47 |
| bdmurray | only 15 places atm | 10:48 |
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