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boredandblogginghello12:28
mrmondayhello12:28
muxecoidHello12:30
mrmondayim sure i recognise your name from somewhere12:30
mrmonday*boredandblogging12:31
boredandbloggingummm12:31
boredandbloggingi've posted on the magazine thread12:32
mrmondaythats probably where i've seen you then12:32
boredandbloggingcool12:32
boredandbloggingyou are working on that, right?12:32
mrmondayyup12:32
boredandbloggingvery cool12:32
boredandbloggingi try to work on the UWN12:32
mrmondayive got an article up now on a wiki12:33
boredandbloggingvery cool12:33
mrmondayUWN?12:33
boredandbloggingwere you part of the team that tried to do this the last time?12:33
Burgworkhey mrmonday12:33
boredandbloggingUbuntu Weekly News12:33
mrmondayok12:33
Burgworkmrmonday: nice installing software article, btw12:33
mrmondaythanks12:33
mrmondaywhat do you think?12:33
Burgworkit is exactly the level of detail an average users magazine needs12:34
mrmondaythanks12:34
mrmondayI have to go now12:34
mrmondaybye12:34
Burgworkno worries, come back soonish12:34
boredandbloggingthat is pretty good12:35
muxecoid:(12:38
boredandbloggingwhats up mu12:39
boredandbloggingmuxecoid, 12:39
muxecoidOfftopic, but... It'd be cool to organize DDOS-like e-mail attacks on support of web-services that fail to work in Firefox.12:40
boredandblogginghah12:41
muxecoid50% of local eShops work improperly in Firefox12:41
Burgworkmuxecoid: no, that is illegal12:41
Burgworkplease don't discuss illegal things in publicly logged channels12:42
muxecoidIs it really illegal?12:42
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Burgworkyes, ddos' are illegal12:43
muxecoidOne posts s "flashmob request" in high-traffic FF place. Each person who decides to support just sends a couple of FF-related e-mails to shop's or bank's support e-mail.12:44
muxecoidNothing is illegal here yet, e-mail is public and people are asking for support12:44
muxecoidDDOS on human support "component", not just overloading server hardware12:45
Burgworkright, that is not a ddos12:45
muxecoidIt is DDOS-like12:45
Burgworkthat is consumer action, a totally different thing12:46
Burgworkdo not conflate them12:46
muxecoidConsumer action is when consumers send mails. When you encourage non-consumers to join it is more like DDOS12:49
Burgworkno, again, don't conflate the two12:50
Burgworkddos is an illegal action12:51
muxecoidWho cares about legality outside Japan and USA anyway? ;)12:51
Burgworkif want to change somebodies mind, illegal actions or appearances therein are not the way to do it, for the most part12:51
Burgworkok, you are not seeing the point12:52
muxecoidRIAA is the greatest fan of "legal actions"12:52
Burgworkugh12:52
Burgworkyou really are not seeing the point12:52
muxecoidASL?12:53
muxecoidChinese Internet is the least Linux-friendly, I guess it would be cool to pick one Chinese bank, find their support and webmaster e-mails and do something. Just as proof of concept. Would "Ask Slashdot" section editors agree?12:54
Burgworklook, I don't disagree with sending emails to a bank12:54
Burgworkjust quit calling it a ddos12:54
Burgworkit isn't and using the term is only going to land you in hot water12:54
muxecoidConsumer action, OK.12:54
muxecoidAre you American?12:55
Burgworkno, Canadian12:55
muxecoidLet's call it CND which is "CND is Not DDOS"12:56
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nixternalanyone know if they are going to recreate the magazine using an open source solution instead of adobe? that doesn't look good if you ask me01:07
Burgworknixternal: what do you mean? using scribus?01:08
nixternalwell in the magazine, beta 2 I think it is, there is an adobo acrobat image saying it was used to create the magazine01:08
nixternals/adobo/adobe/01:08
boredandblogginglol, really?01:08
Burgworkthey actually used acrobat?01:08
nixternalBurgwork: that is what they say01:09
BurgworkI merely thought that was the reader01:09
nixternalI emailed the list and nobody commented01:09
nixternalNope, says Adobe Acrobat 501:09
Burgworkhmm01:09
nixternaland it is posted in forums and elsewhere01:09
nixternalI noticed it the other day, emailed the list about it, and today quite a few people in other communities have been poking huge fun at it01:09
nixternaland even if it was the Reader, doesn't the creator know about evince, xpdf, kpdf, ghostview and such?01:13
boredandbloggingi posted to the thread about it01:15
nixternalI did too, but..01:15
boredandbloggingwell, if they keep ignoring it...01:15
nixternalnobody answers my emails anyways01:15
nixternalhehe01:15
Burgworkheh01:15
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Burgundaviabeuno: you around?05:23
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boredandbloggingjenda, ping08:43
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mrmondayhello all10:03
mrmondaysorry i had to rush off last night10:04
Burgundaviano worries10:05
BurgundaviaI am about to head to bed myself10:06
mrmondayI have just finished the screenshots for another article...10:09
mrmondaythat took ages10:09
mrmondayi think i have 22, which I had to crop10:09
mrmondayi be i don't use all of them10:09
mrmonday*bet10:10
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mrmondayhello all02:04
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ukubuntuDoes anyone know who wrote the beta invitation page http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta ? It may interest them to know that Great Britain IS part of Europe :)05:12
mrmondaythats terrible:D05:14
mrmondayRest of the world: (Great Britain)05:15
boredandblogginglol05:16
mrmondayRandom fact: Great Britain includes asia, north and south america!05:17
ukubuntuHehe, glad I am not the only south american polynesian with Russian britishness in me LD05:19
ukubuntu:)05:19
mrmondayWe have to find the author of that article... 05:21
ukubuntuI was just typing up to the wbmaster of ubuntu.com, is this the best to get?05:21
boredandbloggingmaybe email the marketing mailing list?05:22
ukubuntugood point b&b05:22
juliuxukubuntu, are you sure that great britain is a part fo europe?05:23
mrmondayyeh it is05:23
ukubuntuYes I live there :D05:23
juliuxmrmonday, but they are driving on the wrong side, they don t have the  ;)05:23
juliuxmrmonday, and there is a queen left;)05:23
ukubuntuSome suggest it is America's 53rd state but its not :)05:23
juliuxmrmonday, and they went to the irak, the rest of "old" europe not;)05:24
mrmondayyou've got me thinking now...05:25
mrmondaydam you.. i've not done that in years05:25
juliuxukubuntu, i heard all this things if i was in london last year for two month;905:25
juliuxmrmonday, hehe05:26
ukubuntuhehe, yes there are still a number of countries within Europe that do not have the Euro. the map will confirm though :) Also, within Grat Britain, there is the United Kingdom and Ireland, then within the United Kingdome there is England, Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland!05:30
mrmondaywow... you're good with countries05:31
ukubuntuHehe mrmonday, no, just politically correct :)05:35
mrmondayoh05:36
mrmondayok05:36
ukubuntusorry, daughter cloed laptop mid sentence!05:36
ukubuntuclosed05:36
ukubuntuAutism is a bummer when you are on the laptop05:37
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mrmondayhello again ukubuntu 07:05
ukubuntuHello again mrmonday :D07:05
mrmondayhow are you07:05
ukubuntuWell I do not have a day to reveal all, so I'm fine ;)07:05
mrmondaygood07:06
ukubuntuAnd you?07:06
mrmondayI'm OK07:06
ukubuntuI am writing an article for the mag on GRAMPS, but it need not go in on the first issue :D07:07
mrmondayI got bored writing an article, so now i'm doing the rubik cube...07:07
ukubuntuKewl, can you finish them?07:07
ukubuntuI can get the top two layers but the third is a beach!07:08
mrmondayabout 3/4 of the way07:08
mrmondaythen i use a cheat book that came with it07:08
ukubuntuhehe07:08
mrmondayI can't memorise the last 3 sequences07:08
ukubuntuno, its quite tricky that last bit07:09
ukubuntuwere you around when they first came out?07:09
ukubuntuhehe showing my age :D07:09
mrmondaywhen did they first come out?07:09
ukubuntuabout 25 years ago07:10
mrmondayno then07:10
mrmondayfinished!07:10
ukubuntuKewl07:11
mrmondayi think my best time was 4mins07:11
ukubuntunice (y) need to fly07:11
mrmondayo07:11
mrmonday*ok07:12
mrmondaybye07:12
mrmondayI'll say bye for me also07:12
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