[12:28] <boredandblogging> hello
[12:28] <mrmonday> hello
[12:30] <muxecoid> Hello
[12:30] <mrmonday> im sure i recognise your name from somewhere
[12:31] <mrmonday> *boredandblogging
[12:31] <boredandblogging> ummm
[12:32] <boredandblogging> i've posted on the magazine thread
[12:32] <mrmonday> thats probably where i've seen you then
[12:32] <boredandblogging> cool
[12:32] <boredandblogging> you are working on that, right?
[12:32] <mrmonday> yup
[12:32] <boredandblogging> very cool
[12:32] <boredandblogging> i try to work on the UWN
[12:33] <mrmonday> ive got an article up now on a wiki
[12:33] <boredandblogging> very cool
[12:33] <mrmonday> UWN?
[12:33] <boredandblogging> were you part of the team that tried to do this the last time?
[12:33] <Burgwork> hey mrmonday
[12:33] <boredandblogging> Ubuntu Weekly News
[12:33] <mrmonday> ok
[12:33] <Burgwork> mrmonday: nice installing software article, btw
[12:33] <mrmonday> thanks
[12:33] <mrmonday> what do you think?
[12:34] <Burgwork> it is exactly the level of detail an average users magazine needs
[12:34] <mrmonday> thanks
[12:34] <mrmonday> I have to go now
[12:34] <mrmonday> bye
[12:34] <Burgwork> no worries, come back soonish
[12:35] <boredandblogging> that is pretty good
[12:38] <muxecoid> :(
[12:39] <boredandblogging> whats up mu
[12:39] <boredandblogging> muxecoid, 
[12:40] <muxecoid> Offtopic, but... It'd be cool to organize DDOS-like e-mail attacks on support of web-services that fail to work in Firefox.
[12:41] <boredandblogging> hah
[12:41] <muxecoid> 50% of local eShops work improperly in Firefox
[12:41] <Burgwork> muxecoid: no, that is illegal
[12:42] <Burgwork> please don't discuss illegal things in publicly logged channels
[12:42] <muxecoid> Is it really illegal?
[12:43] <Burgwork> yes, ddos' are illegal
[12:44] <muxecoid> One posts s "flashmob request" in high-traffic FF place. Each person who decides to support just sends a couple of FF-related e-mails to shop's or bank's support e-mail.
[12:44] <muxecoid> Nothing is illegal here yet, e-mail is public and people are asking for support
[12:45] <muxecoid> DDOS on human support "component", not just overloading server hardware
[12:45] <Burgwork> right, that is not a ddos
[12:45] <muxecoid> It is DDOS-like
[12:46] <Burgwork> that is consumer action, a totally different thing
[12:46] <Burgwork> do not conflate them
[12:49] <muxecoid> Consumer action is when consumers send mails. When you encourage non-consumers to join it is more like DDOS
[12:50] <Burgwork> no, again, don't conflate the two
[12:51] <Burgwork> ddos is an illegal action
[12:51] <muxecoid> Who cares about legality outside Japan and USA anyway? ;)
[12:51] <Burgwork> if want to change somebodies mind, illegal actions or appearances therein are not the way to do it, for the most part
[12:52] <Burgwork> ok, you are not seeing the point
[12:52] <muxecoid> RIAA is the greatest fan of "legal actions"
[12:52] <Burgwork> ugh
[12:52] <Burgwork> you really are not seeing the point
[12:53] <muxecoid> ASL?
[12:54] <muxecoid> Chinese Internet is the least Linux-friendly, I guess it would be cool to pick one Chinese bank, find their support and webmaster e-mails and do something. Just as proof of concept. Would "Ask Slashdot" section editors agree?
[12:54] <Burgwork> look, I don't disagree with sending emails to a bank
[12:54] <Burgwork> just quit calling it a ddos
[12:54] <Burgwork> it isn't and using the term is only going to land you in hot water
[12:54] <muxecoid> Consumer action, OK.
[12:55] <muxecoid> Are you American?
[12:55] <Burgwork> no, Canadian
[12:56] <muxecoid> Let's call it CND which is "CND is Not DDOS"
[01:07] <nixternal> anyone know if they are going to recreate the magazine using an open source solution instead of adobe? that doesn't look good if you ask me
[01:08] <Burgwork> nixternal: what do you mean? using scribus?
[01:08] <nixternal> well in the magazine, beta 2 I think it is, there is an adobo acrobat image saying it was used to create the magazine
[01:08] <nixternal> s/adobo/adobe/
[01:08] <boredandblogging> lol, really?
[01:08] <Burgwork> they actually used acrobat?
[01:09] <nixternal> Burgwork: that is what they say
[01:09] <Burgwork> I merely thought that was the reader
[01:09] <nixternal> I emailed the list and nobody commented
[01:09] <nixternal> Nope, says Adobe Acrobat 5
[01:09] <Burgwork> hmm
[01:09] <nixternal> and it is posted in forums and elsewhere
[01:09] <nixternal> I noticed it the other day, emailed the list about it, and today quite a few people in other communities have been poking huge fun at it
[01:13] <nixternal> and even if it was the Reader, doesn't the creator know about evince, xpdf, kpdf, ghostview and such?
[01:15] <boredandblogging> i posted to the thread about it
[01:15] <nixternal> I did too, but..
[01:15] <boredandblogging> well, if they keep ignoring it...
[01:15] <nixternal> nobody answers my emails anyways
[01:15] <nixternal> hehe
[01:15] <Burgwork> heh
[05:23] <Burgundavia> beuno: you around?
[08:43] <boredandblogging> jenda, ping
[10:03] <mrmonday> hello all
[10:04] <mrmonday> sorry i had to rush off last night
[10:05] <Burgundavia> no worries
[10:06] <Burgundavia> I am about to head to bed myself
[10:09] <mrmonday> I have just finished the screenshots for another article...
[10:09] <mrmonday> that took ages
[10:09] <mrmonday> i think i have 22, which I had to crop
[10:09] <mrmonday> i be i don't use all of them
[10:10] <mrmonday> *bet
[02:04] <mrmonday> hello all
[05:12] <ukubuntu> Does anyone know who wrote the beta invitation page http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta ? It may interest them to know that Great Britain IS part of Europe :)
[05:14] <mrmonday> thats terrible:D
[05:15] <mrmonday> Rest of the world: (Great Britain)
[05:16] <boredandblogging> lol
[05:17] <mrmonday> Random fact: Great Britain includes asia, north and south america!
[05:19] <ukubuntu> Hehe, glad I am not the only south american polynesian with Russian britishness in me LD
[05:19] <ukubuntu> :)
[05:21] <mrmonday> We have to find the author of that article... 
[05:21] <ukubuntu> I was just typing up to the wbmaster of ubuntu.com, is this the best to get?
[05:22] <boredandblogging> maybe email the marketing mailing list?
[05:22] <ukubuntu> good point b&b
[05:23] <juliux> ukubuntu, are you sure that great britain is a part fo europe?
[05:23] <mrmonday> yeh it is
[05:23] <ukubuntu> Yes I live there :D
[05:23] <juliux> mrmonday, but they are driving on the wrong side, they don t have the  ;)
[05:23] <juliux> mrmonday, and there is a queen left;)
[05:23] <ukubuntu> Some suggest it is America's 53rd state but its not :)
[05:24] <juliux> mrmonday, and they went to the irak, the rest of "old" europe not;)
[05:25] <mrmonday> you've got me thinking now...
[05:25] <mrmonday> dam you.. i've not done that in years
[05:25] <juliux> ukubuntu, i heard all this things if i was in london last year for two month;9
[05:26] <juliux> mrmonday, hehe
[05:30] <ukubuntu> hehe, yes there are still a number of countries within Europe that do not have the Euro. the map will confirm though :) Also, within Grat Britain, there is the United Kingdom and Ireland, then within the United Kingdome there is England, Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland!
[05:31] <mrmonday> wow... you're good with countries
[05:35] <ukubuntu> Hehe mrmonday, no, just politically correct :)
[05:36] <mrmonday> oh
[05:36] <mrmonday> ok
[05:36] <ukubuntu> sorry, daughter cloed laptop mid sentence!
[05:36] <ukubuntu> closed
[05:37] <ukubuntu> Autism is a bummer when you are on the laptop
[07:05] <mrmonday> hello again ukubuntu 
[07:05] <ukubuntu> Hello again mrmonday :D
[07:05] <mrmonday> how are you
[07:05] <ukubuntu> Well I do not have a day to reveal all, so I'm fine ;)
[07:06] <mrmonday> good
[07:06] <ukubuntu> And you?
[07:06] <mrmonday> I'm OK
[07:07] <ukubuntu> I am writing an article for the mag on GRAMPS, but it need not go in on the first issue :D
[07:07] <mrmonday> I got bored writing an article, so now i'm doing the rubik cube...
[07:07] <ukubuntu> Kewl, can you finish them?
[07:08] <ukubuntu> I can get the top two layers but the third is a beach!
[07:08] <mrmonday> about 3/4 of the way
[07:08] <mrmonday> then i use a cheat book that came with it
[07:08] <ukubuntu> hehe
[07:08] <mrmonday> I can't memorise the last 3 sequences
[07:09] <ukubuntu> no, its quite tricky that last bit
[07:09] <ukubuntu> were you around when they first came out?
[07:09] <ukubuntu> hehe showing my age :D
[07:09] <mrmonday> when did they first come out?
[07:10] <ukubuntu> about 25 years ago
[07:10] <mrmonday> no then
[07:10] <mrmonday> finished!
[07:11] <ukubuntu> Kewl
[07:11] <mrmonday> i think my best time was 4mins
[07:11] <ukubuntu> nice (y) need to fly
[07:11] <mrmonday> o
[07:12] <mrmonday> *ok
[07:12] <mrmonday> bye
[07:12] <mrmonday> I'll say bye for me also