=== zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] hmm [12:57] I just realized I was talking in -devel [12:57] oops [12:57] heh [12:57] I thought I was here [12:58] there you go thinking again [12:58] man that is so dangerous [12:58] ;p [12:58] bad habit [12:58] haha, I know the feeling [12:58] everytime I think, something gets destroyed [12:58] btw, edubuntu-docs got uploaded [12:58] I think it'll be the last for Feisty [12:59] good job bro! you rocked that one out hardcore, and quickly I might add [12:59] unless I put translations back in [01:00] nixternal: we even got some screenshots, TCM, and 2nd CD stuff [01:00] groovy [01:04] gnomefreak: So, is that like pre-nvu composer, or what? (not familiar with seamonkey) [01:05] its composer after nvu since its 1.1.1 )hasnt been out long [01:06] gnomefreak: Developed by who? [01:06] mozilla [01:06] person dont know [01:09] Hmm [01:10] Trying to figure out where in the bugfix progression it lies === gnomefreak goes out for a bit. === PhinnFort [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #ubuntu-motu === acacs_ [n=acacs@20132178116.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] ok, what exactly is last.fm supposed to do? [01:36] LaserJock: find music that suits your taste === marcin_ant [n=marcin@194.114.146.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:36] and find friends with similar taste in music [01:36] afaik [01:37] hmm, ok [01:39] gnomefreak: I'll have to look into that and make sure nobody's duplicating work [01:41] k [01:43] hmm why is it the patches i need cant be applied :( [01:43] oh well lets see if it builds [01:43] later [01:43] <_MMA_> LaserJock: http://www.last.fm/group/Ubuntu+Studio I just use it to see what the guys are listening to. === LaserJock is confused but maybe this social networking stuff just is beyond him === _MMA_ just likes to see what people listen to. === rrittenhouse [n=tad@unaffiliated/rrittenhouse] has joined #ubuntu-motu === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=valles@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] Heya gang === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] bddebian: you liar [03:23] About what? [03:23] ;P [03:23] nevermind [03:23] my channel numbers shifted and I thought this was #fsf ;P [03:24] haha [03:24] my bad yo [03:24] I can honestly say I have never been in FSF. I have been in #gnu once or twice in my life [03:25] hmm, I haven't been in either [03:26] I can't imagine what I'd need there [03:27] and I'd probably get tarred and feathered anyway [03:27] A good lecturing? :) [03:28] hmm, I wonder what would happen if I jumped in #fsf and said "Is this the place for Open Source" [03:28] hehe [03:29] <_MMA_> lol [03:29] "chemists hate GPLv3 draft 2!" [03:30] heh [03:32] maybe, "I've heard Emacs OS is better than Windows, is that true?" [03:33] Just tell them you use OSX, that should be enough :) [03:36] bddebian: oh, excellent [03:37] "I'm glad OS X uses Free software" === RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === effie_jayx [n=l3ap@190.37.175.250] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] crimsun: do you do any upstream development? === _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-051-168.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] LaserJock: heh, you were serious, they only gave me another year :-) [04:25] bddebian: yeah [04:25] Marks was like "boy, I don't know about this guy. I think I better only give him 1 year" ;-) [04:26] fair enough === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ademan [n=dan@h-68-167-206-110.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:30] bddebian: I guess he's just doing 1 year renewals [04:30] that's going to be kind of a pain [04:31] hi Hobbsee [04:32] hi LaserJock === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === theCore [n=alex@ubuntu/member/theCore] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:06] has anyone uploaded https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/feisty/+source/bzr/+bug/92432 ? [05:06] Malone bug 92432 in bzr "index.html contains mainly broken links" [Undecided,Needs info] [05:06] someone's marked it as fix released, and i suspect it hasnt been uploaded === czessi_ [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-044-244.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] oh, it has been, nvm === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] nice [05:32] i just found out one reason selinux-policy-default is failing :) === delmorep [n=delmorep@71.15.124.230] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:33] because it saw apparmor in the same repositories? === jdong ducks [05:34] hah [05:35] jdong: i really do not want to start selinux vs apprmor debate lol [05:36] a* [05:37] joejaxx: nor do I :D [05:37] VIM RULES!!!!!! [05:37] :) [05:37] NANO! [05:37] LOL that is worst [05:37] worse* [05:38] nano r0x j00 [05:40] apparently selinux-policy-default is looking for setfiles in /usr/sbin [05:41] and setfiles is actuall [05:41] /sbin/setfiles [05:41] actually* [05:42] ajmitch: are you around? [05:44] the funny thing is in edgy setfiles is in /usr/sbin/ but in feisty it is in /sbin/ === jdong puts on forum hat [05:45] let's just make a symlink! === jdong takes off forum hat [05:45] :D [05:45] lol [05:46] i do not think any selinux files have a ubuntu# version [05:46] i wonder if there is a debian-selinux channel === joejaxx goes to look at changles [05:47] changelogs* [05:49] LaserJock: yes [05:50] i wonder what the best way to go about this is === coniferous [n=arthur@CPE00d059b51486-CM00111adf5f5e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:53] oooh [05:53] nano r0x mi wurld [05:53] :D [05:53] nano r0x mi w0rld [05:53] lol [05:53] nano has syntax highlighting - that was my cool discovery [05:54] crimsun: are you knowledgable with selinux specific packages? [05:54] dont laugh, its 4am, and im only on here cause i hacked my dads router restrictions, to keep me OFF at these times [05:54] or anyone else too :) [05:54] joejaxx: no, andrew may be [05:54] yeah that is what i was thinking [05:54] i think he is sleep :) [05:55] he's likely at work [05:55] sacater: you bad boy. [05:55] crimsun: oh ok [05:55] being in .nz and all [05:55] jdong: :P === joejaxx does not know what timezone nz is in [05:56] jdong: its easy, he is doing it on MAC, so i just change my MAC and the router sees my as any old user [05:56] sacater: you're awful :D [05:56] and he uses my new MAC [05:56] i just change again! [05:56] BORN FREE [05:56] more time to fix bugs! [05:56] Haha.. Mac filtering. So useless. [05:56] which is the main reason im up :D [05:57] joejaxx: either +11 or +12 UTC, don't remember precisely [05:57] coniferous: heh that is an understatement [05:57] coniferous: I wrote an automatic wayport AP hacker based on MAC identity theft [05:57] if anyone cares i am GMT, not sure what that is it UTC [05:57] that is UTC. [05:57] in* [05:57] oh [05:57] :D [05:58] then i am UTC+0 [05:58] No, GMT does daylight savings, UTC does not, iirc. [05:58] might be wrong [05:58] think you are [05:58] Jdong: Very cool. Wish i had the skill to do that. [05:58] coniferous: http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~jdong/barnacle/barnacle.dev/files [05:58] as i have done my daylight shift [05:59] coniferous: it defeats the pay-to-surf public hotspots by locating another user on the subnet and assuming his MAC and IP [05:59] Jdong: Yeah, i just read the readme.. Brilliant! I'm holding on to this little gem. [05:59] Lol [05:59] that is so wrong [06:00] Ah, man. I need to get myself a real wireless card. Ndis wrapper just dosent do the job.. [06:00] joejaxx: haha I've kinda shoved the moral side of it on the backburner :D [06:01] oh, great, in the time it takes me to say a few lines, ive given people ideas.... [06:05] jdong: Lol [06:12] So, i have a question about MOTUs, I don't mean to sound noobsih or anything, but i was kinda wondering how to contribute to ubuntu. I've been using debian for a while so i know the format of a debian package fairly well, am i wrong in assuming this channel is for the package maintainers? [06:12] coniferous: You're correct about that. [06:13] I don't know exactly how one becomes a MOTU, but becoming a maintainer for a particular package is pretty simple. [06:13] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU has lots of info [06:13] Oh, thats even in the topic.. thanks alot. I'll look that over. [06:13] you may wish to snoop https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment , too. [06:14] i'll look at that too. thank you. === rexbron [n=rexbron@CPE001310b2d1d1-CM0012256e816a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === micahcowan [n=micah@adsl-75-63-16-165.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ScottK is drinking Scotch and coding in Python. Hard to beat that. [06:20] darn it === bddebian is playing Oblivion again.. w00h00 [06:21] what is the Maintainer line once again? [06:21] for ubuntu modified packages? [06:21] XSBC-Original-Maintainer, you mean? [06:21] Or what we put in it? [06:21] Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Development Team ? [06:21] bddebian: yeah what we put [06:21] joejaxx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebianMaintainerField [06:22] Funny you should mention that, Drinking cider and working in a cisco router simulator here. [06:22] Mind you, i'm sure your having more fun then me.. [06:22] thanks === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jml [n=jml@59.167.203.115] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] Well, looks like I expired from ubuntu-dev anyway === RAOF [n=chris@60-242-199-65.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] bddebian: Kinda takes the pressure off a week before freeze though? [06:35] Honestly without trying to sound like a whiny bitch, I'm a little bit offended [06:36] Are you the first one to come up for renewal under the new policy? [06:36] bddebian: oh that is the motu team on launchpad [06:37] I don't think so but I don't know < ScottK [06:37] bddebian: likely a mere oversight [06:38] well that setfiles error was only one problem [06:38] we really have no procedures in place for any sort of renewal yet [06:38] I thought ubuntu-dev was going to be killed? === joejaxx looks to solve the next [06:38] And I thought the renewal procedure was to ask the techboard really nicely? === hoora_191143 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-f58b9c326938f06f] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:39] StevenK: I'm not sure about u-d, I had thought that also [06:39] Of course bddebian's no less screwed just because if it was a mistake. [06:39] bddebian: it's intentional that you are no longer part of ubuntu-dev [06:39] bddebian: see https://launchpad.net/~MOTU/+members [06:39] MOTU is a member of ubuntu-dev, so your upload privileges are preserved. [06:40] ScottK: I'm not saying that I'm screwed and I don't mean it to sound that way [06:41] Ooops [06:42] All I meant was intentional or not, the impact is not affected. [06:42] np [06:42] again, ~ubuntu-dev is deprecated in favour of ~MOTU [06:43] you were reactivated in the correct group. [06:43] crimsun: Understood thanks, that wasn't really what I meant [06:44] oh, are you referring to the term length? [06:45] I guess just a little of the overall process. I realize that I'm no you or LaserJock, etc but I put a lot of my free time in to trying to help out where I can with just some blind e-mail telling me I'm expiring and to begging to the TB. [06:46] the silliness of the "you or LaserJock" comment aside ;-), you and Jani are the first to go through the procedure IIRC [06:47] Why is that a silly comment? I realize that I'm not as intimately involved as you folks are. [06:48] No, he's saying you are overboard with being self-deprecating. [06:49] Well that's a personality quirk but it makes the comment no less valid [06:51] every motu gets upload rights? [06:51] For Universe, yes [06:51] hmm, there sure are a lot of Deactivated people [06:51] (under ~MOTU) [06:51] oh ok [06:53] crimsun: Including two Daniel Holbach's [06:53] bddebian: LP never was into personalized email, much. [06:53] bddebian: didnt you see the MOTU ML, which was where msot of the stuff went on? [06:54] 13? Yeah and why is dholbach de-actived, because he's a core-dev? [06:54] crimsun: looks like more selinux fun [06:54] crimsun: changing the path to setfiles fixed one problem [06:54] crimsun: now i am looking into the next :) === tonyy [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:55] bddebian: yes, he's in core-dev [06:55] Hobbsee: Yes, most of them, though it's been hard to keep up lately with RL job :-( [06:56] bddebian: same here [06:57] arggg === davromaniak [n=cyril@AFontenayssB-152-1-29-9.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:58] LaserJock: what is wrong? :\ [06:58] I hate networking [06:58] I can't wpa_supplicant to work [06:58] which wifi chipset? [06:59] I tried wpagui but it can't connect to wpa_supplicant [06:59] madwifi [06:59] a AR5212 [06:59] are you using madwifi or wext? [07:00] madwifi I think [07:00] open, WEP, or WPA{,2} AP? === delmorep [n=delmorep@71.15.124.230] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [07:01] WPA === poningru [n=poningru@pool-72-64-214-241.tampfl.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:01] I went from open to WPA [07:01] LaserJock: I have ARS5212 and it works in Feisty with linux-restricted-modules and network manager. [07:02] LaserJock: I have madwifi and I use wap no problems [07:02] well, sure, network manager works [07:02] err, wait, what? [07:02] I'm just trying to get rid of network-manager [07:02] oh, so you're trying to use interfaces(5)? [07:02] Oh. OK. It just worked for me, so I didn't mess with it further. [07:02] yeah [07:03] ok, is your /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf configured correctly? [07:03] joejaxx: you wanted something? [07:03] well, I *think* so, there was a HOWTO on the forums and a wiki page [07:03] LaserJock: also, pastebin your interfaces(5) stanza [07:04] but it doesn't look like it's working very well [07:04] ajmitch: ah yes [07:04] ajmitch: i figured out one part why selinux-policy-default does not install [07:04] ajmitch: in the makefile it references setfiles as being in /usr/sbin/setfiles [07:05] ajmitch: when in the newest policycoreutils it is in /sbin/setfiles [07:05] probably because you're using the wrong policy [07:05] and selinux-policy-default should be removed [07:05] crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14143/ [07:05] LaserJock: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14144/ [07:06] ajmitch: but is the makefile referencing /usr/sbin/setfiles still a problem? [07:06] geeze, that's completly different [07:06] joejaxx: just use selinux-policy-refpolicy-targeted [07:06] LaserJock: kel & reinhard spent a while making it interfaces(5)-compliant [07:07] this was back in breezy or dapper, don't remember [07:07] ajmitch: ok [07:07] My query object cache is implemented and appears to be working, so I'm going to bed. Good night all. [07:08] Goodnight ScottK [07:09] looks like i need to manually relabel the files === Hobbsee pokes imbrandon [07:12] hm.. poking... [07:15] Ah well, gnight gang [07:16] bye bddebian [07:17] ajmitch: may i pm you? [07:18] Goodnight bddebian [07:18] crimsun: slightly better, but it won't connect, it just keeps trying [07:21] LaserJock: can you sanitize and pastebin the foregrounded wpa_supplicant output? === mayday_jay [n=mayday_j@maydayjay.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] anyone seen any bugs in xmms lately :(I [07:30] crimsun: yes, on sec [07:33] crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14145/ [07:34] crimsun: it was doing a lot of reconnects, now it just sits there, so I'm assuming it's sort of working [07:34] but I get no network [07:34] joejaxx: if you need to [07:36] LaserJock: does iwconfig show you're associated? [07:36] (there's not enough output there to see) [07:36] hey, because it comes with source, i dont suppose anyone would like to help me make a debian install for sauerbraten http://sauerbraten.org , i would need a lot of hand-holding though [07:37] one sec, I have to turn off and on N-M between tests [07:39] LaserJock: was that to me? === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-131.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] sacater: no, it was for crimsun [07:51] crimsun: so maybe my /etc/network/interfaces is messed up? [07:53] LaserJock: you should definitely be using interfaces(5) syntax with wpa_supplicant [07:54] but does iwconfig show association? [07:56] yes [07:56] iwconfig shows the same with wpa_supplicant as with n-m [07:56] it has my ssid, etc. [08:00] when I try to ping a computer on the same network I just get: connect: Network is unreachable [08:06] LaserJock: well, do you have an IP [IPv4] ? [08:07] I assume so yes [08:07] or wait [08:07] `ip a' === Lure [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:09] crimsun: nope, no IP [08:09] right, that explains the error above [08:10] now, which iface is that, ath0? [08:10] ath0 [08:10] does ``sudo dhclient ath0'' give you a lease? === Ademan [n=dan@h-68-167-206-110.snfccasy.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-188-131.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:12] crimsun: wahoo, success [08:12] I've never used dhclient, now I kinda feel like an idiot :/ [08:13] morning motu's [08:13] do you have to do dhclient everytime you want to get on the network? [08:14] no === ivoks [n=ivoks@37-55.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:14] I use the interfaces(5) format that I pastebinned [08:14] wpa_supplicant does the magic for me [08:14] hmmm [08:15] (see /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz for more info) [08:15] well, I used yours [08:16] hmm. [08:16] let me try something real quick [08:16] I see that "Madwifi supports both the 'wext' and 'madwifi' driver backends. 'wext' is referred, however 'madwifi' may work better in some circumstances." [08:16] (that's a typo for "preferred") [08:18] crimsun: sorry, I'm an idiot, I accidently didn't do s/eth0/ath0/ in one spot in interfaces [08:18] now ifdown ath0 and ifup ath0 work like magic [08:19] excellent. [08:19] but I did have my wpa_supplicant and interfaces wrong [08:19] so thanks [08:19] np [08:20] now I can be N-M free === LaserJoc1 [n=mantha@adsl-75-14-218-86.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:30] phew, made it [08:31] :) [08:31] apt-get -o "Dir::State::Lists=$TARGET" -o "Dir::etc::sourcelist=$TARGET.list" -o "Dir::State::status=$TARGET.status" -o "Dir::Cache=cache" update [08:31] does anyone see anything i am missing in that command? :P [08:32] unfortunately, Feisty seems to not be going downhill for me in terms of hardware stuff [08:32] LaserJoc1: that is good :) [08:32] s/not// [08:32] sorry [08:32] oh [08:32] :\ [08:32] LaserJoc1: what doesn't work? [08:32] resume/suspend seem to have gone south [08:33] and I just rebooted and it stalled on some hardware loading [08:33] took at least twice as long to reboot [08:33] it stalled for me on setting up network [08:34] at this point I think Edgy was better, hardware wise, for me === minghua [n=minghua@ubuntu/member/minghua] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rgvguplb [n=richard@S010600022ad6beed.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cypher1 [n=cypher1@59.92.137.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rgvguplb [n=richard@S010600022ad6beed.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [08:57] packaging request: lives [08:57] http://lives.sourceforge.net/index.php?do=downloads&PHPSESSID=03f197f4c756f4f9d819707da616dc2f [08:57] err [08:57] doh on the phpsession id === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@a88-114-229-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:03] whats the package request official method? === vil [n=lada@ubuntu/member/vil] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:07] poningru: Later. Like, after we've released Feisty. [09:07] buh? === Lure_ [n=lure@external-7.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:08] I thought here was a decision made re: packaging requests [09:08] something along the lines of going through launchpad and tagging it as such [09:09] there are. it's documented on the ubuntu-motu ML [09:10] pretty please link? === blackskad [n=blackska@d54C4A53D.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:16] lists.ubuntu.com === Hobbsee only has the email version, not the link to it [09:21] What would be the best way to catch a command's stderr and stdout to ensure that if that comand alone fails, the whole preinst won't fail? === afflux [i=k@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x6E18D3C4] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:26] ... [09:26] Hobbsee: can you just tell me what the official method is? === poningru thinks this should be made readily available to people who might want to request the packaging and not hte people who are doing the packaging === Hobbsee wonders why the mailing list archvies are so impossible to find, but goes to look them up [09:28] interesting statistic, but who has the most Karma in launchpad? [09:28] guess if you didnt knwo the month... === Fujitsu doesn't. Does that help? [09:29] mmm okay. *looks harder* === freeflying [i=freeflyi@211.147.215.100] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] sacater: Probably popey, as he does the support requests. [09:30] Fujitsu: ok, thank you :D [09:30] Sorry, they're "Answers" these days, and get incredibly high amounts of karma. [09:30] im on 140 something [09:30] oooh [09:30] i need to do answers :D [09:31] poningru: argh. i cant seem to find it. [09:31] (yet) [09:31] Hobbsee: I've been searching too [09:31] cant find it === poningru thinks about downloading the whole thing and grepping [09:32] its fracking 7MB [09:32] :( [09:32] Fujitsu: i cant find a popey launchpad page [09:32] and its opening in firefox :( === poningru is sure he is about to get pwnt [09:33] alanpope, sacater. [09:33] poningru: i wonder if it was in a meeting log instead [09:33] Be warned, he has 116k karma. [09:33] :( [09:34] Fujitsu: :D === poningru <3 egrep [09:34] Hobbsee: found it [09:34] Fujitsu: ill see how he earned it [09:35] Hobbsee: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/5990 [09:36] poningru: ah, yep, that's it. [09:36] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2007-March/001480.html yep [09:36] thanks I will be adding it to teh wiki's === Hobbsee was looking for new, or packages [09:37] Fujitsu: https://launchpad.net/~alanpope/+packages [09:37] Fujitsu: not a single package :D [09:37] poningru: great :) [09:38] poningru: clean it all up while your'e at it :P [09:38] :p [09:39] poningru: it's already there, but a couple of links down [09:39] it is? [09:39] which wiki page? [09:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New [09:40] doh [09:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates [09:45] yeah [09:45] it *all* needs a redo === Hobbsee contemplates a few blog posts askign what people would like to see, etc, on the MOTU page, and doing a mockup, to work on in spain === Monk-e [n=guido@c529dd229.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] Hobbsee: the UWN is also covering such things, so if want something in it, feel free to ping me === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@cs27009116.pp.htv.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] Burgundavia: good point === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] every time that a package is updated, what is the order that its debian scripts get called? say you have package A with both a postinst and a config script [09:55] are they both called on the package update? [09:57] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html#s-mscriptsinstact [09:57] is there anything i can do to increase boot speed? [09:59] crimsun, thx === cassidy [n=cassidy@144.16-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee looks for people. perhaps someone like crimsun [10:19] if i've got package a, and package b, which both have an identically named file, but are completely different, what should i do? [10:20] should i use a conflicts for that, or something else? [10:20] superm1: http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/MaintainerScripts shows the order of script execution as diagrams [10:21] Hobbsee: should both package be installable? [10:21] at the same time [10:21] geser: it's https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/basket/+bug/103476 [10:21] Malone bug 103476 in basket "[can-not-install] file overwrite error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [10:21] no reason why they shouldnt be [10:23] then one of the both packages need to install this file with an other name === Hobbsee notes that one probably doesnt want to have 2 executable basket files anyway [10:26] ( cd debian/gcpegg/usr/share/man/man1 ; \ [10:26] ln gcpegg.1.gz basket.1.gz ;\ [10:26] ln gcpegg.1.gz eggsh.1.gz ;\ [10:26] ln gcpegg.1.gz regtest.1.gz ) === Hobbsee wonders what would happen if she changed that to basket.2.gz [10:28] please don't do it [10:29] what happens? === Hobbsee hasnt tried it === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] section 2 is for "System calls (functions provided by the kernel)" (see man man for the other sections) === Hobbsee wonders why she didnt realise that there'd be a man page for mans.... === Hobbsee wonders why not... === TLE [n=kenneth@217.74.211.126] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36]