[12:44] <ivg> Hi. Maybe a newbie question...
[12:44] <ivg> What's about Seamonkey at Ubuntu?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ivg: i have it built for feisty but it will be in feisty+1
[12:47] <ivg> That's good news... I wonder why it is not in a repository. I've heard something about licensing... but I think it is not closer than VMware-Player, for example, and the latter is there.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ivg: dont kno wwhy it wasnt but its being worked on for feisty+1 i will have a feisty repo open for it soon maybe nextweekish
[12:49] <gnomefreak> how in gods name is 01/22/2007 the latest build :(
[12:49] <gnomefreak> was hoping for something a bit more up to date but lets see what i can pull off
[12:52] <gnomefreak> brb while this gets ready for me to screw up :)
[01:28] <gnomefreak> now im no expert but i feel the following patch is needed and nothing in it seems version specific. applying patch 10_visibility_hidden_patch to ./ ... failed. (thunderbird 2.0b2 build
[01:44] <gnomefreak> asac: ill ping you tomorrwo if your here about these patches, maybe its a simple line change? but good night
[03:41] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 103468 take a look and see if we can do anything with this please. Im doubting it can be fixed in feisty or edgy or anythng but feisty+1 maybe when i finally get tb2 built ill add it there to see how well it works. but need help with patches on that. (maybe set up trunk like you did with fx3? for tb2or3? but will get with you later on it.
[03:41] <ubotu> Malone bug 103468 in mozilla-thunderbird ""Get more extensions" points to firefox extensions" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103468
[05:02] <gnomefreak> asac: gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ bzr merge
[05:02] <gnomefreak> Merging from remembered location http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/trunk/
[05:02] <gnomefreak> bzr: ERROR: Working tree has uncommitted changes.
[10:12] <gnomefreak> god its early :(
[10:21] <poningru> gnomefreak: no wai
[10:21] <poningru> its only 4:21
[10:21] <poningru> so its late
[10:21] <gnomefreak> yep too early to use brain
[11:28] <AlexLatchford> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911
[11:28] <ubotu> Malone bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Medium,Confirmed] 
[11:28] <AlexLatchford> anyone know the status of the Firefox Portion of this bug?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> not sure on flash stuff. there is very little we can do with flash AFAIK. crimsun would know better on flash
[11:32] <AlexLatchford> He says he has fixed the bug, but there is still an open report on the firefox side
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ask if its still reproducible. if its not than close it as fix released
[11:34] <AlexLatchford> someone is saying it is on Breezy I believe, but seeing as that is unsupported
[11:34] <gnomefreak> breezy bugs should be closed it isnt supported any longer
[11:34] <AlexLatchford> also the report upstream is still unattended
[11:35] <gnomefreak> fixed in ubuntu is closable IMHO since its fixed in ubuntu. we dont need upstream to fix it.
[11:35] <AlexLatchford> hmm okay
[11:37] <gnomefreak> if it was fixed in ubuntu it was due to flash issue not firefox but have to make sure it is fixed. if i run into crimun ill ping him about it if i remember
[11:41] <AlexLatchford> Okay, well I have assigned it to myself for now, I will leave it for a month or so and if there is no reply I will close it
[11:52] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: btw my repo is open for team use atm. im gonna release it when i have key inportable and working
[11:53] <AlexLatchford> koolio
[11:53] <AlexLatchford> whats in there?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> asac: fx3 needs to get google search fixed
[11:53] <gnomefreak> ill get it
[11:53] <gnomefreak> deb http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main
[11:53] <gnomefreak> deb-src http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main
[11:54] <AlexLatchford> whats in the repositories?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: so far fx3 and iceape packages are in there
[11:54] <AlexLatchford> aha okay
[11:54] <gnomefreak> those are the full repos above
[11:54] <AlexLatchford> can I run fx2 & 3 together?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> yep :)
[11:54] <AlexLatchford> aha nice
[11:54] <gnomefreak> well not at same time but you dont overwrite one
[11:54] <gnomefreak> you will have both in menu :)
[11:55] <AlexLatchford> smooth
[11:56] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: see if you can get the google search to work in fx3 after you install. im gonna see if thats our fix or upstreams this weekend sometime. fx3 should be upgraded around once a week
[11:56] <AlexLatchford> okay
[11:56] <AlexLatchford> you uploaded the sources too?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> yep
[11:56] <AlexLatchford> nice
[11:57] <gnomefreak> source for fx3 is in the topic :)
[11:57] <AlexLatchford> ah yes
[11:58] <AlexLatchford> aha firefox-trunk
[11:58] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:58] <AlexLatchford> was wondering how 2 different versions of the same name would work
[11:59] <asac> gnomefreak: google search works ... but only if you add it manually :)
[11:59] <AlexLatchford> heh
[12:00] <asac> ji
[12:00] <asac> hi
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> are most of the changes in 3.x under the hood?
[12:00] <asac> :)
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> morning :)
[12:00] <asac> yes ... most
[12:00] <asac> good bunch of stuff in rendering engine
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> JS2.0 looks good, but I wish they documented it
[12:00] <asac> :-D
[12:00] <AlexLatchford> like the PHP manual
[12:01] <asac> yeah JS2.0 is one of the things i guess
[12:01] <asac> however i don't know the state of it atm
[12:01] <AlexLatchford> yeah I use JS alot but it bugs me that there isn't a standard website to look for documentation on it
[12:02] <asac> you use JS a lot?
[12:02] <asac> good to know ;)
[12:02] <asac> hehe
[12:02] <asac> we need someone who can maintain greasemonkey scripts for mozilla team :)
[12:03] <asac> anyway, http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p4kVYBRbEKKiemLr9CI-tZw ... those are the major things in work for ffox3
[12:03] <AlexLatchford> aha nice
[12:03] <AlexLatchford> Yeah I do a lot of AJAX work
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> but at the moment I cant take on a responibility like that, I want to.. But I am doing major exams in 2 months
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> Then I go off to Uni
[12:04] <asac> yeah
[12:04] <asac> go off to Uni ... what does that mean?
[12:04] <AlexLatchford> University
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> doing a computer Science degree
[12:05] <asac> you are college now?
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> yep
[12:05] <asac> so you do a bachelor at college, right?
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> no, thats next year
[12:05] <asac> and then do master/phd at university??
[12:05] <asac> ah ok
[12:05] <asac> now i see
[12:05] <AlexLatchford> no I do a Bachelor next year
[12:06] <asac> you just do sophomore and freshmen at colleg
[12:06] <AlexLatchford> well for the next 3 years
[12:06] <gnomefreak> how do you add it manually?
[12:06] <asac> i seem to have no idea about US school system apparently
[12:06] <AlexLatchford> I dunno what the German schooling system is, but I am 17 so whatever that makes me
[12:07] <asac> we go to school till 19 years ... (e.g. 13 degree), than go to university directly
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> yes the UK is like that
[12:07] <asac> gnomefreak: wait a sec
[12:07] <gnomefreak> k
[12:07] <AlexLatchford> Primary School, (3-11), Secondary (11-16), College (16-18), Univeristy (18+)
[12:08] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: when I run firefox-trunk it seems to just run 2.0.0.3
[12:08] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: close firefox first
[12:08] <asac> http://mycroft.mozdev.org/quick/google.html
[12:08] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^^
[12:08] <asac> thats it
[12:08] <gnomefreak> asac: ty
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> ah okay
[12:09] <asac> there you could add google US
[12:09] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: you can not run both at same time. but you can have them both on pc to use without changing symlinks
[12:09] <asac> AlexLatchford: so Secondary is "High-School" ?
[12:09] <AlexLatchford> pretty much
[12:10] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: aha okay
[12:10] <gnomefreak> all i want is the search :(
[12:11] <AlexLatchford> it kept my PHP Search
[12:11] <AlexLatchford> smooth
[12:11] <AlexLatchford> nothing else though
[12:11] <asac> i will take a look why its not there by default soon. for now the quick searches should be enough :)
[12:11] <asac> yes user installed searches are kept
[12:11] <AlexLatchford> gnomefreak: search using the address bar
[12:11] <asac> i think the gran paradiso branding does not ship any quick searches
[12:12] <AlexLatchford> that still works
[12:12] <AlexLatchford> time to see what some sites look like
[12:14] <AlexLatchford> wow, you really can notice the difference in some imaging
[12:14] <asac> yeah :)
[12:14] <asac> if you go to a wiki page text edit box you will see another difference  :)
[12:14] <AlexLatchford> I made a gallery product that resized some images using JS, before it looked really terrible but now its all smooth
[12:14] <asac> the caret is broken
[12:14] <asac> really? cool ;)
[12:14] <AlexLatchford> heh
[12:15] <asac> i see big difference at this page: http://www.contelligent.com/contell/cms/c1web/contelligent/site/index.html
[12:15] <gnomefreak> it works :) ty
[12:15] <asac> top menu is broken in ffox3 ... while it works in ffox2
[12:15] <asac> but i guess site is broken ;) and ffox2 just chewed it
[12:16] <AlexLatchford> http://82.44.193.109/coursework/src/picture?id=1
[12:16] <AlexLatchford> take a look at that page in the two
[12:16] <AlexLatchford> the main image, which has been resized looks completely different
[12:17] <asac> looks different?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> i dont see image
[12:17] <asac> i don't see it ;)
[12:17] <asac> i see image
[12:17] <gnomefreak> i see message
[12:17] <asac> but it doesn't look different
[12:17] <gnomefreak> sql error
[12:18] <AlexLatchford> meh
[12:18] <AlexLatchford> (its still in development)
[12:18] <gnomefreak> guess i need sql to view it
[12:18] <AlexLatchford> ill post some screenshots in a minute
[12:19] <asac> i guess i am just too blind to see the difference ;)
[12:19] <AlexLatchford> shouldn;t do
[12:19] <gnomefreak> oh btw asac tb2 still fails to build but that can wait. i was gonna add it to repo but eh
[12:20] <gnomefreak> asac: and i dont remember if you were here or not repo is fixed :)
[12:21] <asac> sure
[12:21] <asac> i will take a look at tb2 next week i guess
[12:21] <AlexLatchford> http://82.44.193.109/screen
[12:22] <AlexLatchford> the main image of the Railroad bridge
[12:23] <asac> yeah its in deed smoother
[12:23] <asac> interesting
[12:23] <asac> thats jpeg code
[12:23] <AlexLatchford> yep
[12:24] <AlexLatchford> whats the 3.x Roadmap?
[12:24] <AlexLatchford> is the release in time for Feisty+1?
[12:24] <asac> no
[12:24] <gnomefreak> do you think that can be the same reason why the fonts are bigger in 3 than 2?
[12:25] <asac> will be in jan 2008
[12:25] <gnomefreak> whoa that late?
[12:25] <asac> december 2007 is earliest date
[12:25] <AlexLatchford> hmm, fair enough
[12:25] <gnomefreak> damn
[12:25] <AlexLatchford> well its a complete rewrite of the backend
[12:25] <gnomefreak> maybe do what edgy did with 2.0?
[12:25] <asac> http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/Schedule
[12:26] <asac> don't think so ... 2.0 came almost from the same branch as 1.5 ... so it was "pretty" safe
[12:26] <asac> 3.0 will have plenty of bugs i guess
[12:26] <asac> when initially relesaed
[12:26] <gnomefreak> true
[12:26] <AlexLatchford> Well it will be around Beta3 when Feisty+1 is released
[12:26] <AlexLatchford> maybe Beta4
[12:27] <asac> hmm
[12:27] <asac> lets see
[12:27] <asac> how far they push schedule back
[12:27] <asac> ... who knows :)
[12:28] <AlexLatchford> yep
[12:29] <asac> gnomefreak: iceape is pulling from your repo as well
[12:29] <asac> ... good
[12:29] <asac> will let you know as soon as I have sync ... where you can pull amd64 bits from
[12:29] <asac> does apt-get source work?
[12:30] <AlexLatchford> should do
[12:30] <AlexLatchford> he uploaded the sources he said earlier
[12:30] <asac> with gnomefreak archive?
[12:30] <asac> ok
[12:30] <asac> no it doesn't
[12:30] <asac> gnomefreak:
[12:30] <asac> Get:1 http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com feisty/main iceape 1.1.1-3.mt0 (dsc) [1130B] 
[12:31] <asac> Err http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com feisty/main iceape 1.1.1-3.mt0 (tar)
[12:31] <asac>   404 Not Found
[12:31] <asac> Fetched 1130B in 0s (2567B/s)
[12:31] <asac> Failed to fetch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/main/source/iceape_1.1.1-3.mt0.tar.gz  404 Not Found
[12:31] <asac> E: Failed to fetch some archives.
[12:31] <asac> not a tar.gz
[12:31] <asac> 1st: there should be an orig.tar.gz
[12:31] <gnomefreak> thought there was
[12:31] <gnomefreak> let me look
[12:32] <asac> you need the orig.tar.gz when building iceape
[12:32] <asac> by hand afterwards will not work
[12:32] <asac> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing/dists/feisty/main/source/iceape_1.1.1-3.mt0.dsc
[12:32] <asac> in that file there needs to be the orig.tar.gz and the diff.gz
[12:32] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[12:32] <asac> those will be produced if you build iceape with orig.tar.gz in place
[12:33] <asac> apt-get source firefox-trunk works ... so repo looks good
[12:33] <asac> its just how you created iceape ;)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> i created with seamonkey let me see if that is orig.tar
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:34] <gnomefreak> ok i see it
[12:34] <asac> actually orig.tar.gz should have been created by ./debian/rules source
[12:35] <gnomefreak> i have orig.tar but its not mt0 its just 1,1,1
[12:35] <asac> that is right
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ok ill upload it
[12:35] <asac> how does it look like?
[12:35] <asac> no
[12:35] <asac> that won't help
[12:35] <asac> you have to build iceape
[12:35] <asac> so it detects orig.tar.gz
[12:35] <gnomefreak> ok ill rebuild.
[12:35] <asac> if it doesn't create diff.gz during build its something wrong
[12:35] <asac> take care that it creates diff.gz
[12:35] <asac> then you are fine
[12:36] <asac> just try a full build
[12:36] <asac> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -i.svn
[12:36] <asac> to not include .svn dir in diff.gz
[12:59] <asac> users of archives of ubuntu-bugs and desktop-bugs on lists.ubuntu.com
[12:59] <asac> do we use those archives?
[01:00] <asac> the only point i see atm is that not all modification actions are visibile in launchpad ... e.g. like who changed tile in what way ... or tags ... or state et al
[01:01] <asac> how much mail does ubuntu-bugs get each day?
[01:01] <asac> 40M ?
[01:02] <asac> at least it was even too much work for me to just delete mail
[01:09] <gnomefreak> hmmm
[01:10] <asac> reboot
[01:10] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:11] <gnomefreak> its not windows
[01:11] <gnomefreak> i cant remember what changes i made :(
[01:11] <gnomefreak> start with clean changelog?
[01:14] <asac> are you redoing everything?
[01:15] <asac> otherwise you should have all in place what you need
[01:15] <asac> what pieces do you still have?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> redoing everything
[01:15] <asac> hmm
[01:15] <asac> sad thing :)
[01:16] <gnomefreak> i gen. the orig.tar already now i just made changes
[01:16] <asac> you should have at least kept the README.source
[01:16] <asac> there are the instructions
[01:16] <asac> you checked out from svn as well?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> during re-gen of tar i got warnings/errors about icons
[01:16] <gnomefreak> yep
[01:16] <gnomefreak> i have instructions still
[01:16] <asac> did you start with clean seamonkey tarball?
[01:16] <asac> ok
[01:16] <gnomefreak> no same one i used before
[01:17] <asac> don't understand ... instructions start with seamonkey tarball, right?
[01:17] <asac> extract that tarball
[01:17] <asac> and rename it
[01:17] <gnomefreak> yes. i already had it
[01:17] <asac> then you checkout svn dir
[01:17] <asac> if that is done
[01:17] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:17] <asac> run ./debian/rules source
[01:17] <gnomefreak> done
[01:17] <asac> with fakeroot
[01:17] <asac> i guess
[01:17] <asac> or not
[01:17] <asac> who knows :)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> yes fakeroot
[01:18] <asac> ok
[01:18] <gnomefreak> fakeroot debian/rules source
[01:18] <asac> so at that point you got warnings?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:18] <asac> can you show one?
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[01:18] <gnomefreak> /home/gnomefreak/iceape-feisty/iceape-1.1.1/debian/remove.nonfree: 162: cannot create calendar/sunbird/app/brand.dtd.in.new: Directory nonexistent
[01:18] <gnomefreak> cat: calendar/sunbird/app/brand.dtd.in: No such file or directory
[01:18] <gnomefreak> mv: cannot stat `calendar/sunbird/app/brand.dtd.in.new': No such file or directory
[01:18] <asac> please show info inside debian/ dir as well
[01:18] <gnomefreak> cat: calendar/sunbird/app/brand.properties: No such file or directory
[01:18] <gnomefreak> /home/gnomefreak/iceape-feisty/iceape-1.1.1/debian/remove.nonfree: 164: cannot create calendar/sunbird/app/brand.properties.new: Directory nonexistent
[01:19] <gnomefreak> mv: cannot stat `calendar/sunbird/app/brand.properties.new': No such file or directory
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[01:19] <gnomefreak> what info inside debian?
[01:19] <asac> cd debian/; svn info
[01:19] <asac> what svn url is printed?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Path: .
[01:19] <gnomefreak> URL: svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-mozilla/iceape/branches/experimental/debian
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Repository Root: svn://svn.debian.org/pkg-mozilla
[01:19] <asac> ok
[01:19] <asac> hmm
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Repository UUID: f4e3d8d1-d80b-0410-9133-bbc0d6b0e2e8
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Revision: 39885
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Node Kind: directory
[01:19] <asac> thats fine then i guess
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Schedule: normal
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Last Changed Author: asac
[01:19] <asac> you have orig.tar.gz now on top?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> Last Changed Rev: 39885
[01:20] <gnomefreak> Last Changed Date: 2007-04-03 08:05:14 -0400 (Tue, 03 Apr 2007
[01:20] <asac> yes
[01:20] <asac> ok
[01:20] <gnomefreak> yep
[01:20] <asac> then you add changelog entry
[01:20] <asac> for mt1
[01:20] <asac> and go
[01:20] <gnomefreak> k
[01:20] <asac> you should see the diff.gz being generated fairly early during build
[01:20] <asac> probably first time the text stops scrolling :)
[01:21] <asac> as diff.gz generation should take a bit
[01:21] <asac> if that does not happen (e.g. normal build starts) ...you have a problem
[01:21] <asac> but i guess it should work
[01:21] <asac> just build full
[01:21] <asac> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -i.svn -k<yourkeyid>
[01:21] <asac> and done
[01:22] <asac> i guess -k is not necessary if you add last changelog entry
[01:22] <asac> ok ... taking a shower now
[01:22] <gnomefreak> i dont have the mt0 change log :(
[01:22] <asac> look at other entries
[01:22] <asac> adapt it
[01:22] <asac> add .mt1 to version
[01:23] <asac> and change name, date ... and the actualy comment to something making sens
[01:23] <asac> e.g. build for ubuntu mozilla team
[01:23] <gnomefreak> k
[01:29] <gnomefreak> dpkg-source: building iceape in iceape_1.1.1-3.mt1.diff.gz
[01:44] <asac> good
[02:23] <hjmf> on bug 103587 we have a test case 100% reproducible for flashplugin-nonfree
[02:23] <ubotu> Malone bug 103587 in firefox "Firefox Crash when sending photo on picnik website" [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103587
[02:28] <hjmf> didn't we have a wiki page for plugins test cases? I'm unable to find it :/
[02:28] <asac> oh yes :)
[02:28] <asac> MozillaTeam/QA ?
[02:29] <asac> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/QA
[02:29] <asac> anyway ... making that bug a master should be good enough
[02:30] <asac> are there dupes from trace?
[02:30] <hjmf> I still have to review it in deep
[02:30] <hjmf> thanks for the link I couldn't find it at category mozillateam  :)
[02:31] <asac> its not linked afaik
[02:31] <asac> :)
[02:31] <asac> kind of suboptimal i'd say
[02:31] <asac> but defniitly my failure
[02:31] <asac> :)
[02:32] <asac> i already wanted to write something generic around it and add general firefox testplan
[02:34] <hjmf> asac: I tried to reproduce the crash with firefox -g but when launched from gdb the page doesn't load. Is that normal?
[02:35] <hjmf> I just could retrace it after the normal crash
[02:36] <hjmf> when I try from gdb, firefox hangs and I just get a long backtrace as
[02:36] <hjmf> #0  0xae2a8e6c in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[02:36] <asac> no shjould work
[02:36] <asac> do other pages work well from gdb ?
[02:37] <hjmf> yes
[02:37] <asac> show me the backtrace?
[02:37] <asac> does it crash at some point ... e.g. after hanging a while?
[02:37] <asac> i guess we have stack overflow here
[02:37] <hjmf> mm
[02:38] <asac> depends how long is long for you :)
[02:38] <hjmf> #0  0xae2a8e6c in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[02:38] <hjmf> #1  0xae32d5a7 in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[02:38] <hjmf> #2  0xae3041b6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[02:38] <asac> how long does it go ?
[02:38] <hjmf> ...
[02:38] <asac> till #10000 ?
[02:38] <hjmf> #23 0xade025f9 in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[02:38] <hjmf> #24 0xaf334a0c in ?? ()
[02:38] <hjmf> #25 0xb1676ec4 in ?? ()
[02:38] <hjmf> #26 0x00000000 in ?? ()
[02:38] <hjmf> :)
[02:38] <asac> just to #26?
[02:38] <hjmf> yes
[02:38] <asac> thats not long ;)
[02:39] <asac> in terms of stack overflow
[02:39] <hjmf> if I run it away from gdb, then the page loads right
[02:39] <hjmf> and the crash happens following the test case
[02:39] <asac> hmm
[02:39] <asac> do other flash sites work with gdb?
[02:39] <hjmf> have to test
[02:39] <hjmf> I was curious about this fact
[02:40] <hjmf> I'll test this evening when I'll be back at home
[02:40] <asac> how long did you wait to see page finish?
[02:40] <hjmf> I'm still waiting :)
[02:41] <asac> strange
[02:41] <hjmf> yep
[02:41] <hjmf> I'll test with other flash pages later
[02:41] <asac> can you connect gdb after page loads
[02:41] <asac> but before it crashes?
[02:42] <hjmf> probably, I'll try later, now I'm in a hurry
[02:42] <hjmf> added to my TODO
[02:42] <asac> ty
[02:42] <asac> bye
[02:42] <hjmf> for this evening
[02:42] <asac> ruN!!!
[02:42] <hjmf> lol
[02:42] <hjmf> bye
[02:50] <roda> hey guys, do you know if mozilla/flash bug where mouse wheel doesn't work and keyboard focus is broken when the mouse pointer is over flash animation is being worked on?
[03:08] <asac> flash is a hell of broken :)
[03:08] <asac> if you use flash-nonfree, there is not much we can do
[03:08] <asac> you should report things to adobe
[03:09] <asac> as hard as this may seem
[03:09] <asac> roda: ^^^
[03:10] <roda> asac, i know, it's to old of a bug not to be reported
[03:10] <asac> who knows :)
[03:10] <asac> you are using flash 7?
[03:10] <roda> i guess i'll try a free plugin when i have the time
[03:10] <roda> no, latest flash 9
[03:10] <asac> try flash 9 from backports archive
[03:10] <asac> ok
[03:53] <gnomefreak> ok its built ill upload it a little later maybe spend afternoon uploading it
[04:02] <hjmf> back for a while
[04:03] <hjmf> asac: no way, if I connect gdb when the page is already load, then firefox hangs and the backtrace is the same I pasted above
[04:03] <hjmf> I still have to  try with other flash pages
[04:07] <hjmf> ... well it hangs, but the backtrace now is
[04:07] <hjmf> #0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
[04:07] <hjmf> #1  0x4fa7f893 in poll () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[04:07] <hjmf> #2  0x4fc9ae03 in g_main_context_iterate (context=0x808aaf0, block=1, dispatch=1, self=0x81381f8)
[04:07] <hjmf>     at gmain.c:2979
[04:07] <hjmf> #3  0x4fc9b179 in IA__g_main_loop_run (loop=0x82ccf40) at gmain.c:2881
[04:07] <hjmf> #4  0xb7c4b044 in IA__gtk_main () at gtkmain.c:1177
[04:07] <hjmf> #5  0xb6f6db12 in nsAppShell::Run (this=0x815f380) at nsAppShell.cpp:139
[04:07] <hjmf> #6  0xb6efabe2 in nsAppStartup::Run (this=0x815f340) at nsAppStartup.cpp:151
[04:07] <hjmf> #7  0x0804f8d1 in XRE_main (argc=4, argv=0xbfcfb764, aAppData=0x805a020) at nsAppRunner.cpp:2695
[04:07] <hjmf> #8  0x0804ab8f in main (argc=Cannot access memory at address 0x8
[04:07] <hjmf> ) at nsBrowserApp.cpp:61
[04:07] <hjmf> #9  0x4f9cfebc in __libc_start_main () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[04:07] <hjmf> #10 0x0804aac1 in _start ()
[04:08] <hjmf> weird that gdb interferes that much with firefox
[04:09] <hjmf> (gdb) continue
[04:09] <hjmf> (gdb) bt
[04:09] <hjmf> #0  0xb255de5a in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[04:09] <hjmf> and so on
[04:11] <hjmf> ok out for another hour :)
[04:15] <hjmf> and forget the above input (I've just learned the fg command in gdb) :-P
[04:17] <hjmf> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[04:17] <hjmf> [Switching to Thread -1213678752 (LWP 26365)] 
[04:17] <hjmf> 0xafb6ae56 in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[04:17] <hjmf> :/
[04:19] <asac> hmm
[04:19] <asac> what about other threads
[04:19] <asac> ??
[04:20] <asac> 16:07 < hjmf> #0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
[04:20] <asac> 16:07 < hjmf> #1  0x4fa7f893 in poll () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
[04:20] <asac> that means that its pulling on some file-descriptor
[04:20] <asac> but that could be normal
[04:20] <asac> maybe other threads are of interest here?
[04:21] <hjmf> I guess that that maybe normal, but I'm getting similar results while trying gdb *live* on flash sites
[04:21] <hjmf> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[04:21] <hjmf> [Switching to Thread -1213678752 (LWP 26365)] 
[04:21] <hjmf> 0xafb6afa6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[04:21] <hjmf> (gdb) bt
[04:21] <hjmf> #0  0xafb6afa6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[04:21] <hjmf> #1  0xbfb82aac in ?? ()
[04:21] <hjmf> #2  0x00000000 in ?? ()
[04:21] <hjmf> (gdb) fg
[04:21] <hjmf> Continuing.
[04:21] <hjmf> Cannot get thread event message: debugger service failed
[04:21] <hjmf> (gdb) quit
[04:22] <hjmf> that lead to firefox crash on www.flash.com
[04:23] <hjmf> I don't know if that should be normal, as I'm starting to learn how to use gdb, but is quite weird behavior
[04:23] <hjmf> this output was after running gdb -p firefox-pid
[04:24] <hjmf> on a already running firefox session
[04:30] <asac> so what are you doing?
[04:30] <asac> trying to resume after SIGSEGV?
[04:30] <asac> that will not work :)
[04:31] <asac> what i meant was something like thread apply all bt
[04:33] <hjmf> ok
[04:35] <hjmf> that is long, I'll pastebin wait a second
[04:36] <hjmf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14196/
[04:36] <hjmf> asac ^
[04:37] <hjmf> That was not a crash, but firefox got hanged just clicking on a page with flash
[04:38] <hjmf> while it was working fine on other pages
[04:38] <hjmf> ... inside gdb
[04:49] <asac> i have no idea whats going on there
[04:50] <asac> only thing i can say is that the process does not like "alive" on first glance
[04:50] <asac> however
[04:50] <asac> you cannot continue right?
[04:50] <asac> other wise try to observe if multiple times sending in background changes address of libflashplayer.so code
[04:50] <asac> #0  0xae365e7a in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[04:51] <asac> e.g. if 0xae365e7a becomes something else
[04:51] <asac> is there CPU utilization when it hangs like that?
[04:51] <asac> or just nothing?
[05:05] <hjmf> ok, I'll test
[05:10] <hjmf> 0xb0171e6c in ?? () from /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[05:11] <hjmf> cpu is OK
[05:11] <hjmf> firefox hangs always when flash loads, e.g. on www.flash.com the page loads right until the flash stuff
[05:13] <hjmf> this time the bt is like the first one (that with 24 traces of libflashplayer.so
[05:14] <asac> do you use ctrl-z to send in background and get bt ?
[05:14] <hjmf> no
[05:15] <hjmf> if I do that I'll put gdb in background
[05:15] <asac> really?
[05:15] <asac> for me it works
[05:15] <asac> e.t. ctrl-z ... process gets to backgroun
[05:15] <asac> i get to prompt
[05:16] <hjmf> (gdb)
[05:16] <hjmf> [2] +  Stopped                 gdb -p 30093
[05:16] <hjmf> :/
[05:16] <asac> hmm
[05:16] <asac> ah
[05:16] <asac> i guess you have to send firefox in background
[05:16] <asac> do you do that?
[05:16] <hjmf> how?
[05:16] <asac> start ffox from command line
[05:16] <asac> hit ctrl-z
[05:16] <asac> ?
[05:16] <asac> after gdb is attached
[05:17] <hjmf> OK, I'm in the same term
[05:17] <hjmf> I'll do it from a different one
[05:17] <hjmf> wait
[05:23] <hjmf> sorry I had to move afk
[05:24] <hjmf> back for a while, lets test, you meant send firefox to background once gdb attaches it?
[05:24] <hjmf> or before?
[05:27] <hjmf> if I try to ctrl-z firefox when gdb is attached and firefox already has loaded a flash page nothing happens since firefox already is hanged
[05:28] <hjmf> sorry asac I have to go again, today is not a good day to play with the computer :)
[05:28] <hjmf> If I don't go, somebody is gonna kill me
[05:28] <hjmf> somebody==my wife
[05:28] <hjmf> see you
[05:38] <asac> ok .... then serve your wife ;)
[05:38] <asac> thats a better thing like playing with computer anyway :)
[06:45] <gnomefreak> ok i started uploading but i think it fromze :(
[09:15] <gnomefreak> ok should be updated and working
[09:22] <gnomefreak> it updates fine :)
[09:33] <gnomefreak> asac: theres an upgrade issue :( <pasting> error so i dont lose it.
[09:33] <gnomefreak> Preparing to replace iceape-browser 1.1.1-3.mt0 (using .../iceape-browser_1.1.1-3.mt1_i386.deb) ...
[09:33] <gnomefreak> Unpacking replacement iceape-browser ...
[09:33] <gnomefreak> dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy)
[09:33] <gnomefreak> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste returned error exit status 2
[09:34] <gnomefreak> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/iceape-browser_1.1.1-3.mt1_i386.deb (--unpack): short read in buffer_copy (backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/share/iceape/chrome/en-US.jar')
[09:34] <gnomefreak> Updating iceape chrome registry...done.
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ill work on it later. when trying to fix i get E: Archive is too short
[09:39] <gnomefreak> E: Prior errors apply to /var/cache/apt/archives/iceape-browser_1.1.1-3.mt1_i386.deb
[09:39] <gnomefreak> debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Bad file descriptor(Reading database ... 244917 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:42] <gnomefreak> trying something
[10:00] <asac> your deb is corrupted somehow
[10:02] <gnomefreak> i just re uploaded it it took longer this time. it might have been from one of the times it froze up while uploading
[10:02] <gnomefreak> im running update than see if it will install
[10:02] <gnomefreak> if not i guess im re-re-building it
[10:03] <asac> should work if you can install locally
[10:05] <gnomefreak> looks much better 6 minutes for that one package to downlaod
[10:06] <gnomefreak> apt-get -f install wouldnt even download it this time its atleast downloading
[10:10] <asac> pulling latest iceape
[10:10] <gnomefreak> the source should be there also
[10:11] <gnomefreak> i havent tried yet
[10:11] <gnomefreak> did you fix trunk bzr?
[10:12] <asac> why should i fix?
[10:12] <asac> its ok, isn't it?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> nope there are uncommited changes it said
[10:13] <gnomefreak> iceape-browser is fixe
[10:13] <asac> no thats your local problem
[10:13] <gnomefreak> d
[10:13] <gnomefreak> oh it is?
[10:13] <asac> what are you trying to do?
[10:13] <asac> bzr merge?
[10:13] <gnomefreak> bzr merge
[10:13] <asac> what does bzr status yield?
[10:13] <asac> what is modified?
[10:13] <asac> probably changelog, right?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> oh maybe
[10:14] <gnomefreak> cant be it was built
[10:14] <asac> you have to locally commit first
[10:14] <asac> e.g. do a bzr commit
[10:15] <asac> add some comment, like debian/changelog: prepared mt1 release
[10:15] <gnomefreak> whole bunch of stuff on bzr commit
[10:15] <asac> then you can murge
[10:15] <gnomefreak> -------------- This line and the following will be ignored --------------
[10:15] <asac> what does it read?
[10:15] <asac> yes
[10:15] <gnomefreak> and lists a bunch of stuff
[10:15] <asac> yeah what does it read
[10:16] <asac> does it say what gets committed?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/427478
[10:16] <gnomefreak> it opened in nano
[10:17] <asac> what changes did you made to series?
[10:17] <asac> btw, only modified things will get committed
[10:18] <gnomefreak> i dont think much of anything this last build
[10:18] <asac> series is modified
[10:18] <gnomefreak> changelog and i think that is it, trying to remember but it was differnet than the times before
[10:18] <asac> look with bzr diff
[10:18] <asac> what has changed
[10:19] <gnomefreak> changelog trunk and patches
[10:19] <gnomefreak> [10:19] <asac> yes ... what are changes in series
[10:20] <asac> you should eliminate those
[10:20] <gnomefreak> --- debian/patches/series       2007-03-28 10:14:56 +0000
[10:20] <gnomefreak> +++ debian/patches/series       2007-04-04 10:44:31 +0000
[10:20] <gnomefreak> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ no-have-stdint-h-ftbfs.patch trunk-fsh ftbfs-with-branding-dir
[10:20] <gnomefreak> -bz364093-thebes-system-cairo-fix
[10:20] <gnomefreak> +
[10:20] <asac> ah ok
[10:20] <asac> yes
[10:20] <asac> right
[10:20] <gnomefreak> those were your changes?
[10:20] <asac> so do bzr commit debian/patches/series
[10:20] <asac> say in comment that you dropped that patch because it has been applied upstream
[10:21] <gnomefreak> nano opened
[10:21] <asac> then commit in a second one with
[10:21] <asac> bzr commit debian/changelog ... ony
[10:21] <asac> only
[10:21] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:21] <asac> take care that dropping patch is documented in debian/changelog entry as well
[10:21] <asac> when you commit changelog
[10:21] <gnomefreak> nano keeps opening
[10:21] <asac> but please commit changelog in a second commit
[10:21] <asac> yes you have to comment in nano
[10:22] <asac> everything above the --- ---- line will be in commit log
[10:22] <asac> you can set editor with EDITOR=vi
[10:22] <asac> then you will have vi
[10:22] <asac> don't know if you like that more
[10:22] <gnomefreak> bzr commit debian/patches
[10:22] <gnomefreak> right?
[10:23] <asac> yes ... or debian/patches/series
[10:23] <asac> to be exact
[10:23] <gnomefreak> modified: debian/patches/series
[10:23] <asac> yes
[10:23] <asac> add comment
[10:23] <asac> that it has been applied upstream
[10:23] <gnomefreak> no need to use #
[10:23] <asac> and write out file before you quit
[10:23] <asac> no
[10:23] <asac> where?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> write out file?
[10:24] <asac> save
[10:24] <gnomefreak> in nano
[10:24] <asac> yes
[10:24] <gnomefreak> just under it say it was applied upstream?
[10:24] <asac> i use
[10:24] <asac>  * debian/patches/series: dropping bz.... patch because applied upstream
[10:24] <asac> thats it
[10:25] <asac> thats the comment for both bzr commit of debian/patches/series
[10:25] <gnomefreak> thats in changelog
[10:25] <asac> as well as in changelog
[10:25] <gnomefreak> ah
[10:25] <asac> the commit message of changelog commit could be
[10:25] <asac>  * debian/changelog: updating changelog for .mt1 release
[10:26] <asac> idea is that you update changelog once before release and add all committ messages to the changelog entry, makes sense?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> is fx trunk an mt release?
[10:27] <asac> yes ... you release mt now :)
[10:27] <gnomefreak> oh
[10:27] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:27] <asac> at least you have a full archive
[10:27] <asac> that works :)
[10:27] <gnomefreak> ok everything was wrote and saved
[10:27] <asac> good if you have checked in everything
[10:27] <asac> please copy the debian directory to your online location
[10:27] <asac> then i can check if you did right :)
[10:28] <gnomefreak> ok
[10:28] <asac> if you did you can probably make your own branch in lanchpad from that i will sync stuff that i think are worth for main :)
[10:28] <asac> or you could use ~mozillateam branch
[10:28] <gnomefreak> the full debian dir?
[10:29] <asac> you can make a fakeroot ./debian/rules clean before
[10:29] <asac> then its smaller
[10:29] <asac> but yes
[10:29] <asac> you have sftp ?
[10:29] <asac> then you can just use
[10:29] <asac> bzr push sftp://.../path/to/your/html/dir
[10:29] <gnomefreak> i use ftp (i dont know what sftp is
[10:29] <asac> sftp is based on ssh
[10:30] <asac> so if you have ssh you probably have sftp
[10:30] <asac> ok then you can push your branch with ftp: as well
[10:30] <gnomefreak> yes i use ssh
[10:30] <asac> try push like
[10:31] <asac> bzr push sftp://username@hostname/~gnomefreak/....
[10:31] <gnomefreak> ok im ssh'ed in
[10:31] <asac> no you don't need to
[10:31] <gnomefreak> oh cool
[10:31] <asac> try to run that
[10:31] <asac> you have to figure the path out
[10:31] <asac> don't know if you have ~gnomefreak
[10:31] <gnomefreak> the same path i follow when ssh in or is this the home dir?
[10:32] <asac> don't know
[10:32] <asac> play around
[10:34] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[10:34] <asac> you should push it to some directory that is on the web
[10:35] <gnomefreak> keep getting permission denied
[10:36] <asac> yeah depends on how the directories are layed out
[10:36] <gnomefreak> and no sudo doesnt work
[10:36] <asac> sudo ?
[10:36] <gnomefreak> yes
[10:36] <asac> why sudo?
[10:36] <asac> you don't need sudo
[10:36] <gnomefreak> error 13 is permissions denied sudo == permissions
[10:36] <asac> what do you call?
[10:36] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$ sudo bzr push sftp://gnomefreak@youmortals.com/gnomefreak.youmortals.com
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Password:
[10:37] <gnomefreak> The authenticity of host 'youmortals.com (208.97.176.17)' can't be established.
[10:37] <gnomefreak> RSA key fingerprint is bc:f9:b5:55:4b:2c:07:d7:42:8c:00:2a:8d:f0:2c:de.
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
[10:37] <gnomefreak> Warning: Permanently added 'youmortals.com,208.97.176.17' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[10:37] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@youmortals.com's password:
[10:37] <gnomefreak> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: '/gnomefreak.youmortals.com': [Errno 13]  Permission denied
[10:37] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$  bzr push sftp://gnomefreak@youmortals.com/gnomefreak.youmortals.com
[10:37] <asac> you don't need sudo
[10:37] <gnomefreak> without sudo i get none of that
[10:37] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@youmortals.com's password:
[10:37] <gnomefreak> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: '/gnomefreak.youmortals.com': [Errno 13]  Permission denied
[10:37] <asac> then something is wrong
[10:37] <asac> you don't need sudo
[10:38] <asac> did you run everything with sudo?
[10:38] <asac> e.g bzr branch ...
[10:38] <asac> et al
[10:38] <asac> ?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> you mean the address of the branch itself?
[10:39] <asac> no bzr operation must be invoked with sudo
[10:39] <asac> if you did that once you should definitly redo
[10:39] <asac> same for ssh and scp
[10:39] <gnomefreak> didnt think so. its uploading much smaller
[10:40] <gnomefreak> a couple of minutes compared to 24+hours
[10:40] <asac> ?
[10:40] <asac> that i don't understand
[10:40] <gnomefreak> hold on a sec
[10:41] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/
[10:42] <gnomefreak> go there the debian dir is there
[10:42] <gnomefreak> http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/debian
[10:42] <gnomefreak> wgettable
[10:44] <asac> you should definitly push it somehow
[10:44] <asac> asac@hector:/tmp$ bzr branch http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/debian
[10:44] <asac> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/debian/
[10:45] <asac> i would like to branch it so i can integrate changes to mainline
[10:45] <asac> you can push by ftp as well
[10:45] <asac> just figure out which url you have to use :)
[10:46] <gnomefreak> branch needs to be made on LP no?
[10:47] <gnomefreak> the link i posted is the debian dir you wanted to see
[10:48] <gnomefreak> not sure of the bzr push should be.
[10:51] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm what should i name it?
[10:52] <gnomefreak> i think i figured it out sort of
[10:52] <gnomefreak> firefox-trunk?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> still getting permission denied
[10:55] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@FeistyFawn:~/firefox-trunk-gnomefreak$  bzr push sftp://gnomefreak@youmortals.com/gnomefreak.youmortals.com/firefox-trunk --create-prefix
[10:55] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@youmortals.com's password:
[10:55] <gnomefreak> bzr: ERROR: Permission denied: '/gnomefreak.youmortals.com': [Errno 13]  Permission denied
[10:56] <gnomefreak> and im giving it the right password
[10:56] <gnomefreak> would it be easier to set one up on LP?
[11:04] <asac> not easier
[11:05] <asac> i am not sure whether  sftp://gnomefreak@youmortals.com/gnomefreak.youmortals.com/ exists
[11:05] <asac> how does directory structure look like on that server?
[11:06] <asac> try first if you can manually sftp
[11:06] <asac> e.g.
[11:06] <asac> sftp gnomefreak@youmortals.com
[11:06] <asac> if that works
[11:08] <gnomefreak> i use with ssh "ssh gnomefreak@youmortals.com <enter> than cd gnomefreak.youmortals.com than i have 3 folders i have downloads for apport i have repo top dir. mozilla-testing and i have a Feisty dir with feisty downloads
[11:15] <asac> so try
[11:15] <asac> sftp://gnomefreak@youmortals.com/~gnomefreak/firefox-trunk
[11:15] <asac> and see if it ends up in your home
[11:16] <asac> e.g. where you end up by just doing ssh
[11:16] <asac> if that works
[11:16] <asac> you can insert gnomefreak.youmortals as you like
[11:17] <gnomefreak> just run that command or use bzr push?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> with bzr push it says "bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/gnomefreak/" without bzr push it says "bash: sftp://gnomefreak@youmortals.com/~gnomefreak/firefox-trunk: No such file or directory"
[11:19] <gnomefreak> idea
[11:19] <gnomefreak> hmmmm that failed too
[11:20] <asac> what bzr version?
[11:20] <gnomefreak> 0.15-0ubuntu2
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Bazaar (bzr) 0.15.0
[11:24] <gnomefreak> it doesnt give much info on the tutorial fro bzr :(
[11:24] <gnomefreak> for*
[11:25] <gnomefreak> #
[11:25] <gnomefreak> bzr push sftp://servername.com/path/to/directory
[11:25] <gnomefreak> (The destination directory must already exist unless the --create-prefix option is used.)
[11:28] <gnomefreak> and i tried using the dir from the clone of yours and it failed same way.
[11:41] <gnomefreak> im gonna go for the night i think. i have some things to attend to. night