[12:25] <superm1> majoridiot, i've got at least a few of the originals in ~/.Trash still
[12:25] <gardengnome> superm1: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php?title=Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation&diff=21676&oldid=21675 like, so?
[12:25] <superm1> i can redo them
[12:25] <majoridiot> redo?
[12:25] <superm1> awesome
[12:25] <superm1> i like
[12:26] <majoridiot> you edited the image text on these?
[12:26] <superm1> majoridiot, yes i'm attempting to
[12:26] <superm1> i'll see how successful i am
[12:27] <majoridiot> k
[12:28] <superm1> majoridiot, see if that one is good
[12:28] <majoridiot> looks good
[12:29] <superm1> okay i'll queue up the VM and get /lib for the other
[12:29] <superm1> s
[12:29] <majoridiot> re-capping?
[12:29] <superm1> well at least one recapped
[12:32] <superm1> what else?
[12:32] <majoridiot> that is the only partitioning guide that doesn't set up / then swap then take the remainder for /var/lib
[12:34] <superm1> oh
[12:34] <majoridiot> all it would require is a cap of the summary page after swap and after /var/lib
[12:34] <majoridiot> other than that, the other caps will work out of sequence ;)
[12:34] <superm1> well it requires two summary pages then
[12:34] <superm1> i'll see what i can do
[12:34] <majoridiot> yes
[12:35] <majoridiot> summary after swap, manual entry of /var/lib and then summary after setting up XFS
[12:35] <majoridiot> 3 caps total.
[12:35] <superm1> how big swap?
[12:35] <superm1> 2GB still good?
[12:35] <majoridiot> i'll work around it... no hurry.
[12:35] <majoridiot> yes... that's great.  the text will explain.
[12:36] <superm1> k
[12:36] <majoridiot> ty :)
[12:45] <gardengnome> stupid firefox crashed
[01:00] <majoridiot> ty :)
[01:08] <superm1> alright majoridiot i'm gonna run home and eat some dinner.  this will be my earliest day back from campus this week :)
[01:09] <superm1> catch ya later
[01:09] <majoridiot> k
[01:09] <majoridiot> ttyl
[03:19] <superm1> majoridiot, it looks like those backups i mentioned before are indeed being automatically rotated.  debian must have a method of doing this for the user automatically
[03:21] <majoridiot> backups?
[03:26] <Xenocide> hey majoridiot you have used the imdb features in mythvideo right
[03:27] <majoridiot> yes
[03:27] <Xenocide> everytime i try and fetch it, no matter what file it never works
[03:27] <Xenocide> asks for me to try and manually enter number
[03:27] <majoridiot> which script are you using to fetch with?
[03:27] <Xenocide> let me hop on that machine real quick
[03:27] <Xenocide> and walk my laptop in that room
[03:28] <Xenocide> setup -> video manager -> info button ->search imdb
[03:29] <Xenocide> all i get is manually enter imdb number, reset entry, and cancel
[03:29] <majoridiot> which script?  in the settings
[03:29] <Xenocide> which settings,
[03:29] <Xenocide> video settings?
[03:29] <majoridiot> you have to configure mythvideo to fetch it
[03:29] <majoridiot> yes
[03:29] <Xenocide> im using the defaul tones
[03:30] <majoridiot> media settings>>video settings>>General >> page 3
[03:30] <Xenocide> the imdb.pl
[03:30] <Xenocide> what ever was deafult t here
[03:31] <majoridiot> the one you have is probably broken
[03:31] <Xenocide> ?
[03:31] <majoridiot> take the one i am sending you
[03:31] <Xenocide> is the one in the package broken?
[03:31] <majoridiot> it was, yes
[03:31] <Xenocide> dcc dont' work, remember? :)
[03:32] <majoridiot> dunno if the good one has been replaced yet
[03:32] <Xenocide> can you email it to me
[03:33] <majoridiot> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=366415&highlight=mythtv+imdb.pl+broken
[03:33] <majoridiot> post #3
[03:33] <Xenocide> cool
[03:33] <Xenocide> and is there a way to mass fetch?
[03:33] <majoridiot> dunno
[03:33] <majoridiot> never looked
[03:35] <Xenocide> trying it now
[03:35] <Xenocide> hm
[03:36] <Xenocide> worked, thanks
[03:36] <majoridiot> yw
[03:36] <Xenocide> sweet
[03:36] <Xenocide> frontend crashed
[03:36] <Xenocide> now every time i go to videos it crashes
[03:37] <majoridiot>  ls -l /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/
[03:37] <majoridiot> is it ececutable?
[03:38] <Xenocide> h/o restarting
[03:38] <Xenocide> always used to  work
[03:39] <Xenocide> says no such file or directory
[03:39] <majoridiot> ls -l /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/
[03:40] <Xenocide> xeno@xenomyth:~$ ls -l /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/
[03:40] <Xenocide> total 76
[03:40] <Xenocide> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14290 2006-10-16 05:08 allocine.pl
[03:40] <Xenocide> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19121 2007-04-05 21:34 imdb.pl
[03:40] <Xenocide> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 19823 2007-04-05 21:34 imdb.pl-orig
[03:40] <Xenocide> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13349 2006-10-16 05:08 ofdb.pl
[03:40] <Xenocide> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2460 2006-10-16 05:08 README
[03:48] <Xenocide> any idea?
[03:49] <majoridiot> email?
[03:50] <Xenocide> i just got one from you actually
[03:50] <Xenocide> should i use that one insteaed
[03:50] <majoridiot> s'what i meant ;)
[03:50] <Xenocide> hm k
[03:50] <majoridiot> sry
[03:50] <majoridiot> 16 things going here.
[03:52] <Xenocide> with winscp how do i sudo copy?
[03:53] <majoridiot> no clue.  i don't use it.
[03:53] <Xenocide> can i transfer with putty?
[03:53] <majoridiot> copy it to your home dir and then sudo copy thru an ssh connection
[03:53] <Xenocide> k
[03:55] <Xenocide> still crashed
[03:58] <Xenocide> i even put the old script back andit still crashes
[03:59] <majoridiot> then something else happened.
[03:59] <majoridiot> check that setup page for typos maybe.
[04:00] <Xenocide> what do you mean
[04:00] <majoridiot> chekc mythvideo settings for errors
[04:00] <majoridiot> you just messed something up
[04:01] <majoridiot> it kinda worked now not at all
[04:01] <Xenocide> i never changed anything
[04:01] <Xenocide> thats the problem
[04:01] <Xenocide> all i did was replace the script
[04:01] <superm1> majoridiot, the automatic database backups
[04:01] <superm1> majoridiot, that go into /var/backups/mythconverg.sql.gz
[04:01] <majoridiot> superm1: oh... that conversation from 3 weeks ago LOL
[04:01] <majoridiot> hehe
[04:02] <superm1> haha well i told you my life is a blur lately
[04:02] <superm1> didnt realize it was that bad :)
[04:02] <majoridiot> nice feature
[04:02] <majoridiot> Xeno: try rebooting
[04:02] <Xenocide> k
[04:04] <Xenocide> still crashed...
[04:05] <Xenocide> even video manager in settings crashes
[04:05] <majoridiot> then something is screwed
[04:05] <majoridiot> reinstall mythvideo
[04:06] <Xenocide> lol
[04:06] <Xenocide> apt-get remove --purge then re-install?
[04:07] <Xenocide> cuz that still crashed
[04:08] <majoridiot> feck, man... i dunno.  check you db with phpmyadmin and see if the broken imdb.pl corrupted mythconverg.
[04:14] <Xenocide> what should i be lookign for in here
[04:21] <superm1> majoridiot, which ToC probelM/
[04:21] <superm1> the links not working problme?
[04:21] <majoridiot> yes
[04:24] <superm1> majoridiot, did you already poke around in #moin?  I just asked there but didnt get an answer yet
[04:25] <majoridiot> poked around their site
[04:29] <superm1> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/TableOfContentsBrokenForIncludedPages?highlight=%28tableofcontents%29
[04:30] <majoridiot> saw that
[04:31] <majoridiot> it's a bug
[04:31] <majoridiot> for sure
[04:31] <superm1> so isnt that the same thing we're seing
[04:31] <superm1> just the workaround doesnt work
[04:31] <majoridiot> correct
[04:33] <majoridiot> apparently it is an old bug
[04:34] <majoridiot> ...an old bug that occured when the Include and TableOfContents macros were used together: the ID generated from the Include title was wrong and didn't worked when clicked into the TOC...
[04:37] <superm1> well i keep thinking its these bugs i am reading regarding spaces
[04:38] <majoridiot> good luck.  i started @ be/fe which is where the first "break" occurs in the TOC and didn't see anything there or on any of the included pages.
[04:38] <majoridiot> The Include/TOC macro is a stale mess, that nobody wants to touch. It breaks every aspect of the moinmoin plugin architecture and has numerous known bugs that noone is fixing. It needs to be re-implmented.... (from moinmoin)
[05:36] <majoridiot> it's gotta be a persisting moinmoin bug... i've looked at 3 different sections where it breaks down and not only are there not errors, but adding test headings and includes leaves it still broken for no reason.
[05:37] <majoridiot> same for removing includes completely, including parents in the path and anything else i could think to test.
[05:41] <majoridiot> superm1: if there is nothing pressing, i think i will take time tomorrow to build the permanent feisty backend
[05:41] <superm1> majoridiot, k
[05:41] <majoridiot> and get it out of the way... my db is a mess.  needs dropped.  LOL
[05:42] <superm1> wol is broke for u?
[05:42] <superm1> why?
[05:42] <majoridiot> erlander has been good help pointing out guide errors he comes across... toss him some props if you cross his path, k?
[05:43] <majoridiot> forcedeth driver broken in edgy
[05:43] <superm1> k
[05:43] <superm1> oh i see
[05:43] <superm1> wait forcedeth was broken?
[05:43] <superm1> i use that on my frontend
[05:43] <majoridiot> yup
[05:43] <superm1> and suspend and resume never worked
[05:43] <superm1> is that whY???
[05:43] <majoridiot> at least for WOL functions
[05:43] <majoridiot> likely
[05:43] <majoridiot> yes
[05:43] <majoridiot> upgrade to forcedeth .58-ish+
[05:44] <majoridiot> (forcedeth in feisty is fixed)
[05:44] <Xenocide> i still have had no luck with my video problem :(
[05:44] <Xenocide> mythvideo..
[05:44] <majoridiot> well wtf did you do, xeno?
[05:44] <Xenocide> all i did was add some imdb entries
[05:44] <Xenocide> for two movies
[05:44] <Xenocide> and as soon as i tried to go into mythvideo it crashes
[05:44] <majoridiot> crashes how?
[05:44] <Xenocide> completle frontend crash
[05:45] <Xenocide> goes to desktop
[05:45] <majoridiot> bring up a terminal
[05:46] <majoridiot> run mythfrontend from the command line...
[05:46] <majoridiot> so you can see what errs it throws when it chokes
[05:46] <Xenocide> k
[05:46] <Xenocide> roomate watching tv right now ill do it in a lil bit
[05:46] <Xenocide> cna irun it from an ssh terminal
[05:46] <Xenocide> or just do it from box
[05:46] <majoridiot> try it ssh
[05:47] <majoridiot> it'll be slow, but it might work well enough
[05:47] <majoridiot> just be patient
[05:47] <superm1> if you do it ssh, then DISPLAY=:0 mythfrontend
[05:47] <Xenocide> oh well id have to forward x then
[05:47] <superm1> will launch it
[05:47] <Xenocide> ;)
[05:48] <Xenocide> wtf, it just worked
[05:53] <majoridiot> Xenocide: still working?
[05:53] <Xenocide> i just tried opening mythvideo
[05:53] <Xenocide> didn't try playign one
[05:53] <Xenocide> they were watching TV
[05:53] <majoridiot> did it open via ssh?
[05:56] <Xenocide> yea
[05:56] <Xenocide> it worked fine
[05:56] <Xenocide> and it opened what usually crashed
[05:57] <superm1> :)
[06:11] <Xenocide> pretty much
[06:26] <Xenocide> it just crashed again....wahhh
[06:26] <superm1> haha
[06:26] <superm1> any ideas whats causing it?
[06:26] <majoridiot> the user?
[06:27] <majoridiot> :P
[06:27] <superm1> hehe
[06:27] <Xenocide> no cluee
[06:28] <majoridiot> crashing going into the video viewer, manager or config?
[07:00] <superm1> keescook, i've got three more bug fixes put together for mythtv related to passwords and such, but they will still need a fair deal of testing.  i'm not confident about them as of yet (And i'm not sure if the debconf stuff i'm doing is debian legit)
[07:00] <superm1> keescook, i'm going to put them on some personal webspace in the near future if you want to try them out without having to build
[07:01] <keescook> superm1: okay, cool.  I think the best direction (for feisty+1) for the database issues is to use dbconfig-common
[07:01] <superm1> hm haven't even heard of that.  i'll have some reading to do :)
[07:02] <superm1> keescook, i'll upload them to my school webspace in an hour or two and to the bzr tree when i get to campus
[07:02] <keescook> dbconfig-common is what all the database-needing tools are moving to, it's like debconf for database setup.  (it uses debconf too)
[07:03] <superm1> is it what serendipity uses?
[07:03] <keescook> havne't looked
[07:04] <superm1> i was up a wee bit late working on this last night, and came across several posts to look at serendipity for examples about debconf notification after you ask the user for input, but i didn't make much sense of how serendipity actually did it
[09:07] <superm1> majoridiot, i've got some experimental changes to try last minute regarding password setup and such
[09:07] <superm1> i'll have some packages uploaded later on
[09:07] <superm1> would you be able to test?
[09:08] <majoridiot> absolutely
[09:08] <superm1> they work well in my vm tests when mysql-server is already installed, but unfortunately are still running into difficulties if it isnt
[09:08] <superm1> so i've got another change yet and they will be ready
[09:09] <majoridiot> i'm building the permanent backend and doing a feisty install on it... i'll be afk for a few minutes, but in all day and able to test.
[09:09] <superm1> well i'll only be in and our the next two hours, i've got work this evening (and believe me that is the last place i feel like being given that i'm sick right now)
[09:10] <superm1> so hopefully i have it fixed up by then
[09:10] <majoridiot> k
[09:10] <majoridiot> gonna go do the hands-on stuff... back in a few.
[11:12] <superm1> keescook, majoridiot appears my packaging mischief didn't work as expected in my VM.  i'll toy more with it later tonite then.
[11:12] <superm1> let you guys know if i have more luck
[11:13] <majoridiot> k
[11:13] <majoridiot> i'll be around
[11:13] <superm1> as long as work doesn't burn me out too much i will too :)