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FlippantBirddooglus: ive done absolutely nothing. JUST finished installing xubuntu12:24
dooglusFlippantBird: ok, but are you inside XFCE?  or at the full-screen console thing?12:25
FlippantBirdits full screen12:25
dooglushmmm, ok12:25
doogluswhat if you hold alt and press F2?12:25
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FlippantBirdlogin prompt12:25
FlippantBirdok, logged in...12:26
dooglusFlippantBird: alt-F1 will take you back to the first terminal12:26
dooglusFlippantBird: Alt-F1 through Alt-F6 are 6 different terminals, each should have its own login prompt12:26
FlippantBirdalt-f1 prompted me to login too12:27
FlippantBirdhow can i tell if the xserver is running?12:27
dooglusFlippantBird: I don't know what happened then.  maybe it's the alt-f7 screen which you were seeing before.  that's where the GUI should be.  once in the gui, you need Control+Alt+F1 to get back out12:28
dooglusFlippantBird: ps -ef | grep /X12:28
FlippantBirdalt-f7 is just a blinking cursor12:28
FlippantBirdwait, no other console will load now12:29
dooglusFlippantBird: control-alt-F1?12:29
FlippantBirdit does nothing12:29
dooglusFlippantBird: sounds like something's wrong with the X server then I guess12:31
dooglusswitching to F7 got you stuck in a broken X server screen?12:31
FlippantBirdi guess. its a black screen with a curser in the top left12:31
FlippantBirdit wont respond to any keystroke12:32
FlippantBirdbut its blinking12:32
doogluscontrol-alt-backspace?12:33
dooglusthat should shut down the X server12:33
dooglusbut it probably won't work for you12:33
FlippantBirdit does nothing12:33
FlippantBirdreboot?12:33
dooglusunless you have ssh enabled - but if you've just installed, you won't have12:33
FlippantBirdno, first thing i tried was to open a terminal window12:34
dooglustry control-alt-delete12:34
FlippantBirdand it doesnt have a network card12:34
dooglusthat has been known to cause a clean shutdown12:34
FlippantBirddoes nothing12:34
dooglussounds like you'll need to reboot then, yes12:34
FlippantBirdok, its at the desktop again12:37
FlippantBirdis there a way to open the terminal from some other place besides the applications menu?12:38
Grey_LokiFlippantBird, you can create a shortcut to it on the panel12:40
Grey_LokiOr you can press alt+F2 and type 'xterm'.12:40
dooglusor make a cron job to open one every 5 minutes12:41
FlippantBirdX crashed again///12:42
FlippantBird...12:42
FlippantBirdstartx starts X?12:43
dooglusit does.  but "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" restarts the GNOME display manager12:44
FlippantBirdok12:44
FlippantBirdi have the desktop back, and xterm works12:44
FlippantBirdwhy does the terminal link from the applications menu crash everything?12:45
Grey_LokiFlippantBird, would you just press alt+F2, and run 'xterm' please?12:46
Grey_LokiFind out if it's the menu that's causing the problem, or you launching xterm.12:46
FlippantBirdits the menu. i already said xterm works12:47
Grey_LokiThat's what you get for jumping into a conversation a page too late :D12:47
FlippantBirdi said it 5 lines ago... :P12:48
Grey_LokiFor some strange reason, I blanked the 'term' part of 'xterm'12:48
FlippantBirdso i guess xterm is not the default terminal?12:49
Grey_LokiLet me just check12:50
Grey_LokiFlippantBird, Applications>System>Terminal, right?12:50
Grey_LokiThat's xterm, yeah.12:50
FlippantBirdhuh12:51
FlippantBirdrunning from the menu crashes X, but from alt-f2 does not...12:51
Grey_LokiSo it's a problem with your xfce installation, then.12:52
Grey_LokiI'd sudo apt-get remove and then sudo apt-get install the xubuntu essentials package12:52
Grey_LokiThe name of which i can't remember.12:52
FlippantBirdwill i need internet access for that?12:53
Grey_LokiYes12:53
Grey_Loki!xubuntu-essentials12:54
FlippantBirdit has no network card12:54
FlippantBirdso no can do12:54
Grey_Loki!xubuntu-desktop12:54
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.12:54
Grey_LokiAha.12:54
Grey_LokiI can't help then, i'm afraid.12:54
FlippantBirdits ok, ill just run the terminal the hard way from now on12:55
FlippantBirdthanks for the help\12:55
Grey_LokiAdd it to the panel?12:56
Grey_LokiIt's less clicks :P12:56
FlippantBirdafter i get my wacom working...12:56
Grey_LokiI rarely use the application menu for anything nowadays - all the stuff I use with any regularity is clustered along the top of my screen now.12:56
FlippantBirdi think i need a properly working input device next12:57
FlippantBirddumb question... after i install the wacom-tools package, how do i run it?12:58
FlippantBirdanyone?01:01
Grey_LokiIn the terminal, just type wac, then press tab - if it's what I would call a sensibly named package, it'll autocomplete the command name for you01:01
FlippantBirdit brings up wacdump01:03
FlippantBirdhow do i bring up the next item?01:03
Grey_LokiAdd an extra letter after the c01:04
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Grey_Loki!wacom-tools01:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:04
Grey_LokiI think the command could be called wacom-tools.01:05
FlippantBirdi thought so too, but its not01:06
FlippantBirdnevermind, i guess wacdump was the only thing installed01:10
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deltronwhat's the best way to go about installing xfce if I have vanilla ubuntu feisty installed?01:19
deltronjust apt-get install xfce whatever?01:19
maxamilliondeltron: xfce4 is the package name if you just want xfce4 and its components without the xubuntu theme/style and all default applications that come with01:20
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FlippantBirdhow do i get my left mouse button to work?01:23
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Diegotest01:37
Grey_LokiPong!01:41
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ExodusC:301:48
ExodusCSo... I'm a total Linux noob... I'm running the Xubuntu 7.04 AMDx64 Beta, and I'm curious on how to install NVIDIA OpenGL drivers... I tried using the package manager, but it kept crashing the X server after I restarted...01:50
maxamillion!nvidia | ExodusC01:50
ubotuExodusC: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:50
ExodusCI remember this from last time, what should I do if I own a 7000 series card?  It only seems to cover 4, 6, and FX series cards.01:53
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Popoihi01:53
Grey_LokiExodusC, i'd check some of the stuff in the topic in #ubuntu+101:53
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ferret_0568I have a question for Xubuntu 7.04. What power manager does Xubuntu 7.04 use? Can I use gnome-screensaver and gnome-power-manager with Xubuntu?01:58
ferret_0568Is anybody alive?02:00
PopoiEmmmm... me? :p02:01
PopoiI guess you can, why don't you try it?02:01
ferret_0568I guess I can install xubuntu-desktop...02:01
ferret_0568This is Feisty though, so a guide that I have for removing DE's won't work02:02
ferret_0568Is deborphan recommended?02:02
ferret_0568I want to try out Xubuntu on my P402:02
BFTDhrm02:03
ferret_0568Gah, updates are installing02:05
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Buddha|Anyone here running Xubuntu on a PowerPC Mac?02:15
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ferret_0568How do I use gnome-screensaver instead of xscreensaver?03:34
ferret_0568If you dunno, then why does when I close my laptop lid, my screen does not turn off more than 50% of the time, when in GNOME, it worked fine?03:36
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Diegohey guys03:55
Diegowhere can i get drivers from for my ibm x20 under xubuntu?03:56
Diegoall clear03:56
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tonyyarussoDiego: the ThinkWiki may have a note - driver for what?03:58
Diegox20 notebook03:59
Diegoand the inet connection doesnt work03:59
Diegowhere do i change the setup?03:59
tonyyarussoWhat kind of connection / card?04:00
Diegostandard ethernet connection04:05
Diegoinet is working on 3 other pc's (1 is kubuntu) but this one doesnt seem to know inet out of the box04:06
Diego:/04:06
tonyyarussoMust be a card driver issue04:09
Diegowhere can i get the drivers (all) for the x20 under xubuntu?04:10
PumpernickelWhat kernel version are you running?04:16
Diegowhere can i find this information?04:18
Pumpernickel`uname -r`04:18
Diego2.6.17-1004:19
Diegoand why no inet connection?04:20
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PumpernickelIs 3c59x loaded? `lsmod |grep 3c59x`04:23
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gerroI'm using xubuntu and I keep getting these errors on a program "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory04:34
gerro/bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No such file or directory"04:34
gerroso is that some sort of legacy udev thing with sound piping?04:35
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bigfuzzyjesushas anyone seen darthlappy lately05:41
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PumpernickelCheck with seenserv.05:41
Cygnetanywhen know when Feisty is due out?05:43
Cygnetis there an official date?05:43
supaikuAPril 19 I think05:45
PumpernickelThe week of April 19th.05:45
Cygnetwoot, thanks05:47
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felicianohi there06:47
felicianoI need some help06:48
felicianoare anybody there06:48
ongardiefeliciano: please ask your question; don't ask to ask06:49
felicianook, sorry06:49
felicianoI have xubuntu feisty, but I have some problem with the fonts... At the menu and the windows decarations y put a sanz size 8, but now the font is to small... but the font at firefox is ok. If I try to configure a bigger font, like 10 or 12, the menu font is ok, but the firefox font is huge...06:51
ongardiewhat if you now modify firefox's font settings?06:53
felicianoI try to do that... but no one setup modify the font of the menu06:53
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felicianoongardie, please see this http://www.flickr.com/photos/pobremortal/447968336/06:56
ongardieit's hard to see in the small screenshot, but i do believe you :)06:57
ongardiei'm not very familiar with it though06:57
felicianoyou can view it a all size06:58
felicianohttp://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=447968336&size=o06:58
ongardieoh oops06:59
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felicianono idea?07:00
ongardiehmm...well, when i just tried changing the font, firefox is now using 100% cpu07:01
ongardieok it recovered...not sure what that was all about07:01
felicianoyou dont have the same problem?07:02
ongardiei think i do07:02
ongardieoddly, my firefox menu fonts are much larger than my thunderbird ones07:03
ongardiei'm looking to see if there's a difference in the about:config's07:03
felicianoOpera can change menu font size, but firefox ... i cant find it07:05
ongardiedoesn't look like i have any configuration differences between the two07:06
ongardieit's all pretty much default settings on both07:06
ongardiedo you have thunderbird installed?07:06
felicianonop07:07
ongardieok here we go07:12
ongardiein firefox, go to the address about:config07:12
ongardiein the filter, type "layout"07:12
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ongardiethe first item in the list should be "layout.css.dpi" with a default value -107:13
ongardiechange that value to 007:13
ongardieopen a new firefox window07:13
feliciano:D07:14
felicianogenius07:14
felicianohow did you know that??07:14
ongardiefound it at post #9 on this thread: http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?t=518407:14
ongardiei didn't **know** that or i would have replied a whole lot faster :P07:15
felicianothanks you07:18
felicianoso much07:18
ongardieno problem. can i have a small favor in return?07:19
felicianoif i cant... of course07:19
felicianocan07:19
ongardiei'm the developer of the new xfce4-places-plugin: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-places-plugin07:19
felicianosorry07:19
feliciano:p07:19
ongardiei just released version 0.1 yesterday and i'd like to get some more people to test it07:19
ongardieerr...???07:20
ongardiedon't i look like a fool :)07:20
gpocentekhello ongardie07:20
ongardiehehe, hello07:20
gpocentekI tested your previous release (or a svn snapshot) already07:20
ongardieoh yeah, how'd it go/what'd you think?07:21
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gpocentekI'll certainly test this one, and I guess we'll include it in the next xubuntu07:21
ongardiesweet07:21
gpocentekongardie: it's a nice app07:21
felicianosorry ongardie07:21
ongardietrunk right now has support for volumes/disks :)07:21
ongardiefeliciano: hehe np07:21
felicianoplease explained me what can i do for u07:21
ongardiefeliciano: as i was saying, i just released version 0.1 of my plugin yesterday and i could use some more testing/feedback on it07:22
felicianook07:22
ongardiefeliciano: are you comfortable with building/compiling an app?07:22
felicianoI have to install it?07:22
felicianonot really07:23
ongardieoh...err...well there's no .deb yet, so don't worry about it07:23
felicianobut if you gime some instructions... may be07:23
felicianoor some place to learn07:23
ongardiefeliciano: sure, let's take this to private messages though07:23
ongardiegpocentek: what's your role in xubuntu?07:24
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gpocentekongardie: I'm one of the main devs (we are 3 uploaders)07:43
ongardiegpocentek: ah, well nice to meet you then07:44
gpocentek:)07:45
felicianowow07:45
gpocentekit's nice to see upstream around ;)07:45
ongardiegpocentek: there's not much xubuntu downstream like the gentoo and lunar-linux guys07:47
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markus_did anyone manage to install enlightenment's "engage" panel? i get loads of dependency problems (libecore1 being nasty)08:38
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markus_(i'll better ask in #elbuntu, they use e17)08:40
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hyper_chhiho09:07
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mrdarksidehi09:10
mrdarksideneed help09:10
hyper_chreally?09:11
hyper_chyou need help?09:11
hyper_chor I need help?09:11
hyper_chor both?09:11
mrdarksidebeen using xp on disk a09:11
mrdarksidebought a disk B and installed linux09:11
hyper_chthat's good :)09:12
mrdarksidesomehow i corrupted xubuntu and now i cant enter any one, a nor b09:13
mrdarksideit was a grub problem09:13
hyper_chthen re-install grub again :)09:14
mrdarksideso i installed xubuntu on disk a (xp disk) so i can later retreive the data stored on linux disk b09:14
hyper_chso didn't grub work anymore?09:15
hyper_chdid it work at some time?09:15
mrdarksidenow when I plug the disk b xubuntu doesnt start09:16
mrdarksideit says something about device mapper fails09:16
hyper_chwhy did you unplug the other diskdrive at all?09:16
hyper_chit seems like in the bios your first booting device is your disk b and hence since grub is corrupted there it can't boot anymore09:17
hyper_chand have you been trying to install feisty?09:17
mrdarksidenop09:17
mrdarksidecoul it be that is because i installed linux with disk b unplugged?09:18
hyper_chit depends on your boot menu09:18
hyper_chthis kind of things happens if you have a bootable partition and if that partition on that disk is given priority upon booting09:18
hyper_chchange in the bios the boot order of those two drives09:19
hyper_chare they both ide or s-ata or mixed?09:19
mrdarksideide both09:19
hyper_chthen check in the bios which is set to boot first from09:20
mrdarksidewhen i installed linux there was disk a only...after that i said: "well, now i'll just plug disk b and read the data from linux on disk"09:21
mrdarksidelinux on disk a"09:22
hyper_chyou said before you installed linux on disk b09:22
hyper_chso grub is still on there09:22
hyper_chbut that got corrupted you say09:22
hyper_chso after installing it to disk a09:22
hyper_chit runs fine when disk b is unplugged09:22
hyper_chbut it seems, that you have set int he bios disk b priority of disk a to boot09:23
hyper_chand disk b has a bootable partition09:23
hyper_chhence it will boot from disk b - which fails again - because that was your primary reason to reinstall linux on disk a09:23
mrdarksidei just wanted my linux  read disk b as a storage disk09:23
mrdarksidethe scheme is this09:24
hyper_chthe intention of disk b doesn't matter09:24
hyper_chaccording to what you said to me in the bios disk b has higher boot priority than disk a09:24
hyper_chand disk b is somewhat corrupted hence the failure09:24
hyper_chmake disk a as first boot device in the bios09:24
mrdarksideyeap, but the master and the boot disk is a09:25
mrdarksidein bios too09:25
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hyper_chif you unplug disk b, can you boot?09:25
mrdarksidea is ide0 master and b is ide0slave09:25
mrdarksidethe system boots from a09:26
mrdarksidebut then it reaches a stage when its stop09:26
hyper_ch[09:28]  <hyper_ch> if you unplug disk b, can you boot?09:26
mrdarksideyeap09:27
hyper_chyou can boot normally? Linux is started?09:27
mrdarksidei can boot and work perfectly09:27
mrdarksideright now i am using it09:27
mrdarksidebut my files are on the other disk09:27
hyper_chthen look at the boot order in the bios09:27
mrdarksideif i plug the disk b i cant start the OS09:28
hyper_chthen look at the boot order in the bios09:28
mrdarksidei've already checked that09:29
hyper_chdouble check it09:29
hyper_chdisk a must have higher priority than disk b09:29
mrdarkside1 cdrom 2 harddisk 3 floppy 4 usb...09:29
hyper_chand what is the boot order of the harddisks?09:29
mrdarksidea first09:30
hyper_chobviously not09:30
hyper_chhave you seen the entries of the harddisks in the bios and their respective priorities?09:31
mrdarksidewith disk b plugged the sistem start linux xubuntu (disk a) loading, and then it get me to the error screen saying something about device mapper or map error09:32
hyper_chif you don't want to listen and check those things I can't help you09:32
mrdarksidewait here09:33
mrdarkside09:33
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mrdarksidehey09:42
mrdarksideso09:42
hyper_chyes?09:43
mrdarksideide channel 0 master 40.......wdt....disk a09:44
mrdarksideide channel 0 slave    80.......wdt.... disk b09:44
mrdarksideide chanel 1 slave     ........................ cdrom09:44
mrdarksideboot config:09:44
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mrdarksideboot secuence:09:44
mrdarksidefist boot device: hard disk09:44
mrdarksidehard disk priority:  1 40.........wdt.... disk a 2 other device dont remember09:46
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mrdarksidethats with disk b plugged09:46
hyper_chthen I don't know09:47
mrdarksideso i started linux, it load the splash screen...09:47
hyper_chit doesn't make sene09:47
mrdarksideyes it's does09:47
mrdarksideloading linux show me this error09:48
mrdarkside[numbers.number]  device-mapper: dm-linear : Device lookup failed09:49
mrdarksideare you there?09:50
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mrdarksideanyone knows about device-mapper?09:53
mrdarksidehey!09:59
mrdarksidehelp!09:59
posingaspopularmrdarkside: sorry i duno what the answer is...10:01
mrdarksidei have a problem10:02
mrdarksidewhen i plug a hard disk10:02
Merchelohotswapping?10:03
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mrdarksidenot10:05
mrdarksidei shutdown the pc10:05
mrdarksidethen install the new drive and configure it so it is slave10:05
mrdarksidethe i boot linux10:05
mrdarksidei have xubuntu10:05
mrdarksidebut it reaches a stage when it tells me10:06
mrdarkside[numbers.number]  device-mapper: dm-linear : Device lookup failed10:06
Merchelois that the only error?10:08
mrdarksideyeap10:09
Mercheloand vgdisplay tells you?10:12
mrdarksidewat?10:12
mrdarksidei cant do anithing because the message keep appearing10:12
mrdarksideso i shutdown and unplug the disk10:13
Merchelois it formatted correctly?10:13
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mrdarksideit was formatted and partitioned to install linux10:15
mrdarksidebut i had an error with that disk10:15
mrdarksideso i used another10:15
mrdarksideand now i want to use it as a storage disk10:16
mrdarksidebut i can even star linux with the disk plugged10:16
jorg2please, help me the chanel ubutun in the spanish  /join  ?10:17
mrdarksideaprende ingls10:17
mrdarksidesabes algo de linux?10:18
mrdarksideI need a geek10:18
mrdarkside:)10:18
jorg2quien va a saber si vengo de otro ambiente10:19
mrdarksidehey!!!!10:19
mrdarksidei need an intermdiate linux user10:20
mrdarksidehhey!!!!!10:22
mrdarksideanyone?10:22
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mrdarksidehelp10:32
mrdarksidefuck you10:37
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Mercheloheh10:38
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Mercheloanyone ever try and install automatix on xubuntu 6.10 ?11:05
hyper_chedon't use automatix11:08
Merchelowhy not?11:11
hyper_chit can break the system upon upgrades11:11
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Merchelohmm i can see that, the way it overwrites the sources.list :/11:24
hyper_chMerchelo: I heard it has improved a lot meanwhile but you can still do all that stuff yourself and hence you will learn something and it won't break the system later :)11:26
hyper_chautomatix is great for new users to get up and running11:26
Mercheloyeah, i was just reading up about it, and changed a few things, and decided to go back to the old way of installing java :)11:28
hyper_chMerchelo: have you been reinstalling the system a few times lately and do you think you will do a few times more?11:30
Merchelono, i have xubuntu installed for a few months now, and don't bet on installing it, just fixing it rather than re-installation11:31
hyper_chMerchelo: well, I just wrote myself an install script which will take care of most software that I need :)11:31
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Diegohi all11:36
Diegowhat to do when there's no inet connction under xubuntu?11:36
Diegoanyone here?11:38
Agafonovsome :)11:38
reaVeryou have wifi or something?11:39
Diegono, ethernet11:39
Diegoother pc with kubuntu connected via same router11:40
Diegothe one that doesnt want to connect is a ibm x20 notebook11:40
reaVerah, notebooks:P11:40
Diegoyeah, but at least ibm :p11:40
Diegothought these work well with linux11:41
reaVer lspci|grep Eth11:41
reaVerenter that11:41
Diegok11:41
reaVertell me what you get for output11:41
Diegodifferent letters and explications11:43
Diegoplease be patient, i am totally new on linux :)11:43
reaVer?11:43
reaVeryou get garbage or do you get a chipname or something?11:43
Diegoi didnt get the sign "|" into the console, us layout11:43
Diegonothing like that11:43
Mercheloabove the enter key or there abouts shift+\11:44
reaVerthen you'll get an error:P11:44
reaVeryeah, what Merchelo said:P11:44
Diegohost bridge: intel corporation ....11:46
Diegowhat would help you?11:46
reaVernope11:46
reaVerI need the Ethernet11:46
reaVerlspci|grep Eth here gives:11:46
reaVer00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20)11:46
reaVer00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)11:46
Diego00:0a.0 ethernet controller: intel corporation 82557/8/9 [ethernet pro 100]  (rev 09)11:48
Diegoseems to be what you asked me for11:48
Diegowhat to do now?11:50
reaVerpray someone can help you:P11:50
reaVerI'm unable to find the module that would belong to it11:50
reaVerlooks like you're fucked:P11:52
reaVerhttp://www.intel.com/support/network/adapter/1000/linux/e100.htm11:52
reaVerthis namely seems to be the driver that belongs to it11:52
reaVerand that driver is not compatible with 2.6.*11:52
Diegonot compatible???11:54
reaVerthe module will probably not even compile on 2.6 kernels11:54
Diegolooks bad11:54
Diego:/11:55
reaVeryou'll have to wait till someone that does know IBMs comes by to help:P11:55
reaVerthe guy I would ask is still in his bed11:55
reaVer:P11:55
Diegohmm, and i thought linux on ibm notebooks is no problem...11:56
Diegodamn it11:56
reaVerthat's what I thought too:P11:56
Diegowell, it's an old notebook, but windows2000 was running on it too :P11:57
Diegodamn ibm11:57
Diegono linux love for my old ibm...11:58
reaVerit's a very old notebook I'd say:P11:58
Diegoits ok for what we would to use it11:58
Diegoi bought it for 30euros with a friend to play with linux11:59
Diegomaybe only 2511:59
reaVeroch:P11:59
k^^Diego: I run xubuntu on an old T20, almost no problems11:59
reaVerk^^: then go help him with his ethernet:P11:59
Diegoyeah, help me, please :)12:00
Diegoi cant believe that, even 2000 was running, what a shame12:00
k^^I have no clue how to help you Diego :)12:01
k^^mine runs almost out the box12:01
Diegoyeah, nice to know i am fucked up with my notebook12:01
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Diegoargh12:02
Diegoyou guys think anyone could help me?12:02
Diegoor is this problem too big?12:02
Diegohow about an ethernet adapter over pcmcia?12:03
Diegowould this work?12:03
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KurtArielhello all, looking for some feedback/help maybe12:15
Merchelook12:16
KurtArielXubuntu latest beta on a Dell Ispiron 4000 laptop12:16
KurtArielhaving X issues12:17
KurtArielof some sort12:17
KurtArielthe screen is kind 0f "split" into 3 areas12:17
KurtArieltried different boot settings, no resolution12:17
KurtArielhave Mepis (a Kubuntu basically) on the hdd and no probs with that like this12:18
KurtArieltried changing res through desktop settings, no diff12:18
KurtArielshould I report this to the devels, or is it a LCD thing where I need to tweak xorg maybe?12:19
KurtArielappreciate any help/input12:19
KurtArielalso, reduced workspaces to onlu one, problem remained12:20
KurtArielsp *only12:20
KurtArielcould be this - comment #5 at this page: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/geekend/?p=19712:35
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hyper_chDiego: what ethernet card do you have in there?12:39
k^^anyone happends to know how I can make the gap between my desktop icons smaller?12:41
gpocentekk^^: you can set that in the desktop settings dialog IIRC12:44
k^^mkay12:44
hyper_chk^^: you could set a higher screen resolution :)12:44
hyper_chDiego: still here?12:45
gpocentekk^^: err, sorry, I misread what you wrote12:45
k^^ok?12:45
gpocentekI don't think that it's doable in fact12:45
hyper_chk^^: better to ask in #xfce12:45
k^^ok I'll try that12:46
hyper_chDiego: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39542212:49
Diegoi am here12:54
Diegothank you12:54
Diegohttps://systemausfall.org/wikis/howto/Debian_on_IBM_X2012:55
Diegowe're now downloading alternate xubuntu with 2.20 kernel12:55
Diegodo you think this may help?12:56
hyper_chDiego: I don't know12:57
hyper_chyou're downloading feisty?12:57
mirffeisty fawwrrnnn01:01
mirfcan't wait01:01
hyper_chI'd rather recommend to download the desktop version01:02
mirffeisty is out on 19th?01:02
Diegofeisty?01:02
mirfyeah01:02
Diegowhat is feisty? sry01:02
Diegook, my friend knows it01:03
mirfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn01:03
hyper_chfeisty is the new version of *ubuntu01:03
Diegothats what we're downloading right now01:03
mirfI'm gonna wait for may i think01:03
hyper_chthe partitioner in the herd3-5 release in the alternate install didn't work correctly, hence I had to get the desktop version01:03
Diegowe're only having 128mb of ram, thats why we need the alternate version01:06
Diegoor can you recommend something else?01:07
hyper_chwell, I don't know if the partitioner is now fixed in the beta release... as said, I used Herd3-501:07
Diegook, the download is almost finished, so we will give it a try :)01:07
hyper_chdon't forget to use CD-RW :)01:07
Diegoeerm, it doesnt matter, we allready burned maybe 10-20 cds with linux distributions01:08
Diego:)01:08
Diegothis is allready the 3rd cd for our little ibm01:09
hyper_chthat's why I said using cd-RW :)01:09
Diegothe cd's aren't mine :p01:10
hyper_chhehehe01:11
Diegona, thats ok, we will use them later i think01:11
hyper_chwell, you could meanwhile try what they did do on that thread in the ubuntuforums01:11
hyper_chand I'm experimenting now01:11
hyper_chhopefully I won't f*** everything up :)01:12
Diegook, we will see, but i think this could be to complicatet for us01:12
Diegook, its definitly to complicated for us :/01:12
Diegowe're absolutely beginners on linux01:12
Diegohyper, are you from CH?01:13
hyper_chyes01:16
Diegona wir auch01:17
hyper_ch!de01:17
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:17
hyper_ch^^01:17
Diegonono, let's stay here :D01:18
Diegoseems like you're a really good help for us01:18
hyper_chI'm just a user01:18
hyper_chPumpernickel, TheSheep, maxamilion and a few others are the geeks in here :)01:19
Diegook, but we're doing good with your help01:19
Diegowhere are you from?01:19
hyper_chSwitzerland01:20
Diegoyeah, i noticed:)01:20
Diegobut where in swizerland? we're from berne01:21
Diegoah01:21
Diegowe're doing what they posted on the forum01:21
hyper_chOriginating from Solothurn but studying in St. Gallen01:22
Diegonice01:23
Diegowe've got the new xubuntu now01:24
Diegorestarting now the notebook, it was all exactly as posted in the forum01:24
hyper_chso that solution from the forum helped?01:28
Diegowe have now restarted the notebook, but there are further steps to do i think01:29
Diegobut it looked good01:30
Diegooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee01:39
Diegoit works01:39
Diegowhat a great feeling01:39
Diego:)01:39
Diegoafter such a horrible night01:40
hyper_chhehehe01:40
hyper_chthe forums are a great ressource :)01:40
Diegoyeah, we searched via google...01:40
Diegodidnt find a lot01:40
Diegohmmm, wasted a cd again01:40
Diego:D01:40
hyper_chyou could try feisty01:41
hyper_chit uses less system ressources I tend to think01:41
Diegohmm, first see what we cand do now01:41
Diegomy first time running linux01:42
mirf1st time is always trhe worst ;)01:42
hyper_chlinux is nice :)01:42
Diegomaybe we will try it later01:42
Diegoyeah, i like it allready01:42
hyper_chand you did the right thing already :) coming in irc for asking for help :)01:43
Diegoyeah01:43
Diegowe would have thrown the notebook away today if we wouldnt have linux running on it properly01:44
hyper_chI'd have taken it :)01:44
Diegoknow we were occupied for maybe 7 hours with this problem01:44
hyper_chwhat video card is in there?01:44
Diegoit is the 8mb i think01:44
hyper_chnvidia?01:44
hyper_chintel?01:44
hyper_chati?01:44
hyper_ch...?01:44
Diegoati01:44
Diegoits an old notebook01:45
Diegono 3d desktop i think :/01:45
hyper_chno 3d desktop but maybe 3d acceleration of the card which can also improve speed :)01:45
Diegoreally? why need 3d acceleration for 2d office stuff? does this really help improving speed?01:47
hyper_chI think so01:54
Diegoah ok01:55
hyper_chbtw, #ubuntu-de is also nice :)01:55
hyper_chmore people there01:55
Diegoreally?01:55
Diegooh, so lets go over there:)01:55
hyper_chI am already there :)01:56
Diegoi am now too01:56
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b52laptophello02:40
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b52laptopone question , how could i remove xubuntu small startup animations durint the boot , and print strartup up boots details02:42
b52laptop?02:42
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hyper_ch!bootsplash02:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:47
hyper_ch!nosplash02:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nosplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:48
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b52laptophyper_ch,  i was not  speaking about grub sbootspalsh but ubuntu one02:55
gpocentekb52laptop: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst, and drop the "splash" option from the kernel boot line03:14
QewI think that b52laptop is referring to the animated splash that happens when Xfce starts, not the boot splash.03:15
gpocentekaaah03:16
Qewb52laptop: Try: Settings>Splash Screen Settings and set to none03:17
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b52laptopQew,  yeap , thanks03:26
ghatakHi, I am an Ubuntu user, currently running Fiesty Fawn, I want to switch to XUbuntu with minimal disrruption to my stuff and work. What is the best path I should take ?03:27
b52laptopgpocentek, thks03:29
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knwI need hlep04:25
ormiretwhat's the problem knw?04:27
knwI had beryl running04:27
knwI'm running festy04:27
knweverything went crazy04:27
knwI lost my workplaces04:27
knwand my title bars04:27
knwI can't resize or move anything around04:27
knwI ran all updates04:28
knwgot some new vid drivers04:28
knwthen I managed to get my title bars back up04:29
knwin terminal04:29
knwI used metacity04:29
knwbut if I close the termial everything goes back to normal04:29
ormiretif beryl is doing crazy things I'd say close it and go back to xfwm404:30
knwya04:34
knwI uninstalled beryl04:34
knwthen I had to reinstall compiz04:35
knwand metacity04:35
knwto get my title bars back04:35
ormiretyou shouldn't have needed to. Was xfwm4 running?04:36
knwyes04:36
knwnow it isn't04:36
knwcuase once I lose my terminal04:37
knwit's over04:37
knwI can't move anything around04:37
knwso I can't access my menues04:37
knwso I have to alt+ctrl+backspace04:37
ormiretAlt-F2 gets run dialogue and you can start xfwm4 from there04:37
knwwhat's the command that I need to type04:38
knwI can go trough my menues right now04:39
knwbut only cuase I have metacity running in a terminal04:39
ormiretThe easy way to fix it is lose metacity, use alt-F2 to get the run dialogue and run 'xfwm4' from there, then logout saving the session so it starts automatically next time.04:41
ormiret*close matacity04:41
knwI just run xfwm404:41
knwshould i see changes upon running of the command04:42
ormiretyes04:42
knwnothing changed04:42
ormirethave you got a terminal open?04:42
knwthe window just went away04:42
knwyes04:42
knwfor metacity04:42
knwif I close that04:42
knwI can't even type in here04:43
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knweverything locks up04:43
knwthat's why04:43
knwhaha04:43
ormiretOh right, you have to close metacity before xfwm4 can take over04:43
sinkorswimhow can I update thunar to version 0.8.0? apt-get install / update only seems to install 0.4.004:43
knwdo I have to have it clicked to run in terminal04:44
knwor no?04:44
knwcuase in the run box I get an option04:44
ormiretno, you don't want it to run in terminal04:44
knwok cool04:44
knwyes!04:45
knwthat worked04:45
ormiretsinkorswim: what version of xubuntu are you running? 0.4.0 is the newest available in edgy 0.8.0 is available in feisty04:46
ormiretknw: excellent, remember to save the session when you log out so it starts automatically next time you log in.04:46
knwthe problem that still resides is that all my windows that I have open show up 2 times in my bar04:47
ormirettwice next to each other or two sets of all running programs?04:48
knwya next to each other is the same program04:48
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knwfor example I only have xchat open04:48
knwbut it shows up 2 times04:48
sinkorswimormiret: I'm using edgy, but I was under the impression that individual linux programs can be updated as and when needed?04:48
knwin my bottom bar04:48
sinkorswimi.e thunar 0.8.0 without having to upgrade to feisty, or is that not possible?04:49
knwand I can click both04:49
knwbut it's not 2 instances for the same program04:50
knwif I was to open up some thing else that will also show up twice04:50
ormiretsinkorswim: possible but certainly not easy, the updates after release are just to fix security problems or major bugs.04:50
ormiretknw: can you close one of the xchats (probably an idea to try another app rather than xchat so you don't disconnect from here if you can't (: )?04:51
sinkorswimormiret: i c, thanks04:52
knwya they all show 2 times04:52
knwbut there is space between them04:53
knwso I was to open up another program04:53
knwshows up like it would normaly show up in the bar04:53
knwbut 2 times04:53
knwwith anything04:54
knwseems like my bar is devided in half04:54
knwand whatever is showing in one half04:54
knwshows up in the next half04:54
ormiretAre you getting "xchat xcaht other_app other_app" or "xchat other_app" x2?04:54
knw"xchat other_app                   xchat other_app"04:55
knwso if I was to open up something else04:55
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knwI would get "xchat other_app 3rd_app           xchat other_app 3rd_app"04:56
ormiretOK, that sounds like two icon boxes running, right click in the blank psace to the right of the app icons and selct remove from the popup menu.04:56
knwyes!!04:58
knwgood job04:58
knwok next problem ={04:58
knwit's not gui related04:58
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knwk I just reloged05:02
knwwith save session05:02
knwI sitll had to run05:02
knwxfwm405:02
knwto get my title bars back05:02
knwand my workspaces05:03
knw!ntfs05:03
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse05:03
ormiretThat's odd, what did you change to get beryl/compiz to start automatically?05:05
knwwell05:06
knwI unistalled05:06
knwberyl05:06
knwfrom terminal05:06
knwand then synaptico packet manager05:06
knwI removed it from there05:07
knwcause it was night mare05:07
knwI could do anything once beryl decide to die on me05:07
knwcouldn't click on anything05:08
knwonce I unsitalled it05:08
knwall my windows were missing05:08
knwtitlebars05:08
knwso I went to the forums of course05:08
knwran the compiz command to give me some stats05:09
knwbut it showed as not being installed05:09
knwso I rand the pakage05:09
knwthen ran metacity05:09
knwI also had to install that as well05:09
knwthen I got title bars back05:10
knwbut only if I was running the terminal05:10
ormiretYeah it looks like the change that beryl or you made to swap xfwm4 for beryl is still preventing xfwm4 from running at startup, so I was wondering if you did anything to change to beryl after installing it and what that was.05:10
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knwI ran all updates05:11
knwcuase I tought it was video card drives05:11
knwsince I got a ATI 9800 pro Radeon all in wonder05:11
knwthere was actaullly a driver update05:11
knwthat came in trought automaticly05:11
ormiretknw: were you following instructions to install beryl?05:12
knwI did but then I came across a script05:13
knwso I just ran the script05:13
knwasked me few questions05:13
knwand did everything05:13
ormiretcould you point me at the script so I can have a look at what it changed?05:13
knwyes sure05:14
knwlet me find it05:14
knwI think I have it saved05:18
knwbut I can't find the link05:18
ormiretif you've got the script file then copy it into the pastebin05:19
ormiret!pastebin05:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:19
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knwhttp://distfiles.gentoo-xeffects.org/beryl-setup05:23
knwI found it05:23
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Carsten[DE] Hi there!05:28
Carsten[DE] I found:05:29
Carsten[DE] /etc/modutils/snd-es18xx05:29
Carsten[DE] /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko05:29
Carsten[DE] ...but modprobe and lsmod fail... how can I can get access to this driver?05:29
PumpernickelWhat error message(s) do you get?05:30
Carsten[DE] FATAL module not found05:31
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ormiretknw: that script makes changes to your gdm config that I'm not sure how to undo.05:31
Carsten[DE] while i found this multiple times under /usr/src/..... as .h .c .o .ko05:31
Carsten[DE] i tried in home05:31
Carsten[DE] and in dir of file05:31
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Carsten[DE] modprobe fails all the time05:32
brokenbinhow do i install win32 codecs again?05:32
Pumpernickel!w32codecs05:32
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs05:32
PumpernickelCarsten[DE] : What's the result of `uname -a`?05:32
brokenbinPumpernickel: i was just there, but i don't know how to find one05:32
Carsten[DE] Linux magellan 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 8 19:55:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux05:32
knwdgm config does?05:32
Carsten[DE] I installes 6.06 from alternate CDROM05:33
Carsten[DE] http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8966/ (lspci)05:34
ormiretgdm is the program that handles login and starting your session, one thing that I've noticed is it creates an autostart file in '~/.config/autostart' called beryl-manager-xfce.desktop, if that is still there remove it.05:35
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PumpernickelCarsten[DE] : What was the complete modprobe command you ran?05:35
knwdo you know the location of the file05:37
knwand must be loged in as a root user?05:38
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ormiret'.config/autostart' from you're home folder and you houldn't need to be root to remove it05:38
knwI can't find it under home05:39
knwaleks@linux:/home$ ~/.config/autostart05:39
knwbash: /home/aleks/.config/autostart: No such file or directory05:39
ormiretknw run 'cd ~/.config && ls' and see if autostart is in the output05:40
knwgtk-2.0   Terminal  xfburn  xfce4-session05:41
knwmousepad  Thunar    xfce4   xfce4-taskmanager.rc05:41
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knwthat's all I get under home05:43
ormiretdid you use the --setup option for that script?05:44
knwyes05:45
exlthi all - this mornings update now gives me desktop icons - one for another local mounted partition, and another for an unknown unmountable device called 'SERVICEV001' - there is nothing in ~/Desktop, nor have I seen this behavior before - my love of xfce is that it does not do odd auto-things unless I tell it to..  any help on disabling whatever this is - I have looked for new unfamiliar processes, and have not put my finger on it..05:47
exltoh, this is feisty05:48
PumpernickelFeisty support in #ubuntu+1.05:48
exltfor xubuntu, as well?05:49
PumpernickelYeah.05:49
exltthanks05:49
knwI'm wondering if I should just install edgy over feisty05:50
ormiretknw: is there a file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom' on your system?05:51
knwyes there is05:52
ormiretis there also a gdm.conf in the same folder?05:53
knwyep05:53
ormiretright in that case remove the gdm.conf-custom (probably safest to move it somewhere rather than deleting it in case this makes things worse...) you will need root privs to do this.05:55
knwshould I just rename it05:55
ormiretyeah that ought to be enough to make gdm use the normal gdm.conf05:56
knwsorry what was the command to rename05:56
knwmv fire file2?05:57
ormiretyes05:57
knwnice06:01
knwk06:01
knwthe renamed it06:01
knwrelog now?06:01
ormiretyeah, that should be all the things that script did reverted (except package installations, but you removed them already)06:02
knwya I did that06:03
knwI'm really new to this06:03
knwseems everything I do endup being a night mare =] 06:04
knwok06:04
knwgonna relog now06:04
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knwthat worked!06:06
ormiretexcellent.06:07
knw=p06:07
knwok now mounting my ntfs partitions06:08
knwthe show on my desktop06:08
knwI have the icons setup06:08
knwbut they won't mount06:08
ormiretsorry I've got no idea about ntfs, I haven't tried to interoperate with windows since before the move to ntfs.06:10
knwthanks a lot you've been great help06:11
knwwhat clinet do you use for irc06:12
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knwI used to use mIRC06:12
knwI need to wine it but before I do that I need get my ntfs partions mounted06:12
ormiretI'm currently using irssi, but I think I'm going to mov to erc at some point since I prefer emacs window management to irssi's06:16
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knwI can't figure out how to display users in xchat06:17
knwlike all the users in the channel06:17
knwin the separate window06:17
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knwwhat was the channel for feisty06:33
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Casio_hi06:38
Casio_someone here ?06:38
Casio_:)06:38
ormiretyes06:40
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Ancehi06:51
Ancei have problem with xfce4.4 i have new options in xfce4-session-logout "switch user" ask can i this options disabled ?06:52
ormiretI don't think you can get rid of it. I'm intrigued though, why do you want to?06:55
Casio_hi06:58
Anceormiret: i not wil this options "switch user" in logout06:59
Ancei wil default options : reboot exit logout06:59
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Ancewil = want07:00
ormiretIt doesn't do anything if you just ignore the button.07:02
PumpernickelActually, it bites you if you don't use it enough.  That's a new feature since 4.3.99.07:03
Ance4:3.99 ?07:08
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VladimirBGhi07:11
VladimirBGI'm using ubuntu 6.06, but I find it a big heavy on resources, and I'm thinking about switching to Xubuntu07:12
VladimirBGdo you suggest 6.06, 6.10 or should I wait for 7.04?07:12
VladimirBG(laptop, proriatery ati drivers are a must)07:12
PumpernickelWait for 7.04.  It has Xfce 4.4 stable, and it'll only be a short wait - it's due out the week of the 19th.07:13
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VladimirBGO_o07:14
VladimirBGsounds nice07:14
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KurtKrautIs there any equivalent to network-manager (Ubuntu) for Xubuntu ?08:03
maxamillionKurtKraut: not entirely, that is actually something that is in development at the moment but you are able to install the network manager from ubuntu in xubuntu if you like or if you need it for only wifi i would recommend wifi-radar as an alternative08:04
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KurtKrautmaxamillion, this solution under developtment would not require Gnome dependencies, right ?08:05
maxamillionKurtKraut: correct08:05
KurtKrautGod to know that08:06
KurtKrautNow, just have to wait for feisty+1 :P08:06
KurtKraut*good08:06
maxamillionKurtKraut: unfortunately it is still in early development so it probably won't appear until feisty+1 ... though we wish it could be out now08:06
KurtKrautmaxamillion, hm... I see08:06
maxamillionKurtKraut: there are actually two alternatives we are chosing between, both in early development and neither requiring gnome-libs ... one of them is being developed by a xfce core developer and the other by a third party dev .... http://compwiz18.blackhole.cx/wicd/wb/ and http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig#screenies08:09
maxamillionKurtKraut: i believe the one called "airconfig" is the one being developed by the xfce core developer08:10
KurtKrautmaxamillion, I'll test one by one08:10
maxamillion:)08:11
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hyper_chhiho08:21
maxamillionhello08:22
hyper_chmaxamillion: my friend, I have an issue :) how do I permanently load a kernel module?08:22
maxamillionhyper_ch: "sudo nano /etc/modules" add the module name (the name you use to modprobe it) to the end of the list, save and exit ... should load next boot08:25
hyper_chmaxamillion: thx :)08:25
maxamillionanytime :)08:26
hyper_chnow I have to fix that gpilot/evolution or kpilot/kontact issue :(08:27
maxamillion?08:27
hyper_chmaxamillion: well, when I sync from my palm lifedrive not all contact details are being transferred.... birthdates and pictures that I have on the lifedrive don't show up in evolution and kontact08:28
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maxamillionoh .... that's no good ....08:31
maxamillioni sadly don't have fun hardware like a palm lifedrive so i wouldn't be of much help08:31
maxamillionhyper_ch: oooo!!! but maybe you can answer a question for me08:31
maxamillionhyper_ch: i was planning on buying either a lifedrive or a T|X (because they have wifi) but i was wondering if they support WEP/WPA/WPA2 and if they come with a VPN client08:32
hyper_chmaxamillion: I can try :)08:32
hyper_chwep is supported... don't know about wpa/2 and they support vpn clients but don't come with one08:34
maxamillionok, i saw some vpn clients for it that cost roughly $30 (which isn't that bad) ... just thought i would ask08:35
hyper_chthe life drive supports wpa-psk08:36
hyper_chdoes the t|x have the option of using sd-cards?08:36
maxamillioni believe so08:37
hyper_chwell, the reason I bought the ld was the 4gb drive in there08:37
maxamillionhyper_ch: did you have to buy anything extra for wifi or did it need something? (when i read somewhere it says something like "wifi ready" and i didn't know what that meant)08:38
hyper_chthe tx would be smaller and more handy and sd cards won't take long time08:38
hyper_chuntil they also have 4gb08:38
hyper_chmaxamillion: no, wifi is installed already08:38
maxamillionyeah ... the main reason i need a palm is for wifi around campus and keeping my schedule08:38
hyper_chhehe.... yeah, wifi works out of the box... wep and wpa-psk08:39
maxamillionawesome08:39
hyper_chit's quite nice :)08:40
hyper_chbut as said, pictures and birthdates that I saved on the lifedrived aren't being synced08:40
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hyper_chmaxamillion: oh and you need to replace the built-in browser (blazer) with Opera :)08:43
hyper_chI wonder how long it'll still take to prepare my harddisk :(08:45
hyper_chit's been on it server hours now :)08:48
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maxamillionhyper_ch: another thing ... is there a ssh client for palm?09:20
hyper_chhaven't checked09:21
maxamillionhmmm... because it would be really cool to be able to admin my servers while sitting in class09:21
maxamillionhyper_ch: found one :) http://www.sealiesoftware.com/pssh/09:21
maxamillionnvm ... says its insecure09:22
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kalikianaHi there, can anyone help me: I can't access my email server and it says "Quota exceeded".09:35
hyper_chkalikiana: then delete some mails there09:36
kalikianahyper_ch, I cannot access any folder, so I can not delete any mail.09:36
hyper_chdelete it through webmail09:37
hyper_chor ssh09:37
kalikianass?09:37
kalikianaActually webmail doesn't work either. Only reporting an error.09:38
hyper_chssh09:38
hyper_ch!ssh09:38
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/09:38
kalikianaHow would I delete mail via ssh?09:38
kalikianaI tried to connect via telnet already, but didn't manage to delete or even view mails.09:39
hyper_chssh user@server.com09:40
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brokenbinmaxamillion: how do i install win32 codecs for totem?09:41
hyper_ch!codecs09:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:42
brokenbinhyper_ch: i have been there09:42
brokenbinhyper_ch: but i couldn't find what i was looking for09:43
kalikianahyper_ch, I think my server doesn't permit ssh. It's a webhoster by the way.09:43
hyper_chbrokenbin: then google for Seveas' repositories09:44
hyper_chkalikiana: then I can't help you09:44
kalikianaOk, thank you anyway.09:44
ormiretkalikiana: you'll probably have to speak to tech support for the host and get them to delete some mails for you09:45
kalikianaormiret, I sent them an email but currently nobody answers. Is there no other way?09:46
hyper_chkalikiana: is it imap?09:51
kalikianahyper_ch, yes it is.09:51
hyper_chwhy not deleting first a mail locally and then trying to sync?09:52
kalikianahyper_ch, I tried to delete some mail with attachments, but that doesn't seem to work although they "disappeared" from my folders as they should.09:59
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bigfuzzyjesusanyone seen erstazi11:59
maxamillion!seen erstazi11:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen erstazi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:59
maxamillionwhat?!?!11:59
maxamillionbigfuzzyjesus: no ... no i haven't11:59
bigfuzzyjesusmaxamillion, they got rid of the seen command11:59
bigfuzzyjesusdont ask me why11:59
maxamillioni notived :/11:59
bigfuzzyjesus:(12:00
PumpernickelDude, use seenserv.12:01
maxamillionPumpernickel: ?12:01
Pumpernickelseenserv is a freenode service to find out when someone last was on the freenode network.12:01
maxamillionah12:03
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atarinoxdoes anybody know...will there be a Feisty release for xubuntu on april 19?12:16
maxamillionatarinox: that is the current plan, but we might be behind by a day or two12:19

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