[12:24] <FlippantBird> dooglus: ive done absolutely nothing. JUST finished installing xubuntu
[12:25] <dooglus> FlippantBird: ok, but are you inside XFCE?  or at the full-screen console thing?
[12:25] <FlippantBird> its full screen
[12:25] <dooglus> hmmm, ok
[12:25] <dooglus> what if you hold alt and press F2?
[12:25] <FlippantBird> login prompt
[12:26] <FlippantBird> ok, logged in...
[12:26] <dooglus> FlippantBird: alt-F1 will take you back to the first terminal
[12:26] <dooglus> FlippantBird: Alt-F1 through Alt-F6 are 6 different terminals, each should have its own login prompt
[12:27] <FlippantBird> alt-f1 prompted me to login too
[12:27] <FlippantBird> how can i tell if the xserver is running?
[12:28] <dooglus> FlippantBird: I don't know what happened then.  maybe it's the alt-f7 screen which you were seeing before.  that's where the GUI should be.  once in the gui, you need Control+Alt+F1 to get back out
[12:28] <dooglus> FlippantBird: ps -ef | grep /X
[12:28] <FlippantBird> alt-f7 is just a blinking cursor
[12:29] <FlippantBird> wait, no other console will load now
[12:29] <dooglus> FlippantBird: control-alt-F1?
[12:29] <FlippantBird> it does nothing
[12:31] <dooglus> FlippantBird: sounds like something's wrong with the X server then I guess
[12:31] <dooglus> switching to F7 got you stuck in a broken X server screen?
[12:31] <FlippantBird> i guess. its a black screen with a curser in the top left
[12:32] <FlippantBird> it wont respond to any keystroke
[12:32] <FlippantBird> but its blinking
[12:33] <dooglus> control-alt-backspace?
[12:33] <dooglus> that should shut down the X server
[12:33] <dooglus> but it probably won't work for you
[12:33] <FlippantBird> it does nothing
[12:33] <FlippantBird> reboot?
[12:33] <dooglus> unless you have ssh enabled - but if you've just installed, you won't have
[12:34] <FlippantBird> no, first thing i tried was to open a terminal window
[12:34] <dooglus> try control-alt-delete
[12:34] <FlippantBird> and it doesnt have a network card
[12:34] <dooglus> that has been known to cause a clean shutdown
[12:34] <FlippantBird> does nothing
[12:34] <dooglus> sounds like you'll need to reboot then, yes
[12:37] <FlippantBird> ok, its at the desktop again
[12:38] <FlippantBird> is there a way to open the terminal from some other place besides the applications menu?
[12:40] <Grey_Loki> FlippantBird, you can create a shortcut to it on the panel
[12:40] <Grey_Loki> Or you can press alt+F2 and type 'xterm'.
[12:41] <dooglus> or make a cron job to open one every 5 minutes
[12:42] <FlippantBird> X crashed again///
[12:42] <FlippantBird> ...
[12:43] <FlippantBird> startx starts X?
[12:44] <dooglus> it does.  but "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" restarts the GNOME display manager
[12:44] <FlippantBird> ok
[12:44] <FlippantBird> i have the desktop back, and xterm works
[12:45] <FlippantBird> why does the terminal link from the applications menu crash everything?
[12:46] <Grey_Loki> FlippantBird, would you just press alt+F2, and run 'xterm' please?
[12:46] <Grey_Loki> Find out if it's the menu that's causing the problem, or you launching xterm.
[12:47] <FlippantBird> its the menu. i already said xterm works
[12:47] <Grey_Loki> That's what you get for jumping into a conversation a page too late :D
[12:48] <FlippantBird> i said it 5 lines ago... :P
[12:48] <Grey_Loki> For some strange reason, I blanked the 'term' part of 'xterm'
[12:49] <FlippantBird> so i guess xterm is not the default terminal?
[12:50] <Grey_Loki> Let me just check
[12:50] <Grey_Loki> FlippantBird, Applications>System>Terminal, right?
[12:50] <Grey_Loki> That's xterm, yeah.
[12:51] <FlippantBird> huh
[12:51] <FlippantBird> running from the menu crashes X, but from alt-f2 does not...
[12:52] <Grey_Loki> So it's a problem with your xfce installation, then.
[12:52] <Grey_Loki> I'd sudo apt-get remove and then sudo apt-get install the xubuntu essentials package
[12:52] <Grey_Loki> The name of which i can't remember.
[12:53] <FlippantBird> will i need internet access for that?
[12:53] <Grey_Loki> Yes
[12:54] <Grey_Loki> !xubuntu-essentials
[12:54] <FlippantBird> it has no network card
[12:54] <FlippantBird> so no can do
[12:54] <Grey_Loki> !xubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[12:54] <Grey_Loki> Aha.
[12:54] <Grey_Loki> I can't help then, i'm afraid.
[12:55] <FlippantBird> its ok, ill just run the terminal the hard way from now on
[12:55] <FlippantBird> thanks for the help\
[12:56] <Grey_Loki> Add it to the panel?
[12:56] <Grey_Loki> It's less clicks :P
[12:56] <FlippantBird> after i get my wacom working...
[12:56] <Grey_Loki> I rarely use the application menu for anything nowadays - all the stuff I use with any regularity is clustered along the top of my screen now.
[12:57] <FlippantBird> i think i need a properly working input device next
[12:58] <FlippantBird> dumb question... after i install the wacom-tools package, how do i run it?
[01:01] <FlippantBird> anyone?
[01:01] <Grey_Loki> In the terminal, just type wac, then press tab - if it's what I would call a sensibly named package, it'll autocomplete the command name for you
[01:03] <FlippantBird> it brings up wacdump
[01:03] <FlippantBird> how do i bring up the next item?
[01:04] <Grey_Loki> Add an extra letter after the c
[01:04] <Grey_Loki> !wacom-tools
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom-tools - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <Grey_Loki> I think the command could be called wacom-tools.
[01:06] <FlippantBird> i thought so too, but its not
[01:10] <FlippantBird> nevermind, i guess wacdump was the only thing installed
[01:19] <deltron> what's the best way to go about installing xfce if I have vanilla ubuntu feisty installed?
[01:19] <deltron> just apt-get install xfce whatever?
[01:20] <maxamillion> deltron: xfce4 is the package name if you just want xfce4 and its components without the xubuntu theme/style and all default applications that come with
[01:23] <FlippantBird> how do i get my left mouse button to work?
[01:37] <Diego> test
[01:41] <Grey_Loki> Pong!
[01:48] <ExodusC> :3
[01:50] <ExodusC> So... I'm a total Linux noob... I'm running the Xubuntu 7.04 AMDx64 Beta, and I'm curious on how to install NVIDIA OpenGL drivers... I tried using the package manager, but it kept crashing the X server after I restarted...
[01:50] <maxamillion> !nvidia | ExodusC
[01:50] <ubotu> ExodusC: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:53] <ExodusC> I remember this from last time, what should I do if I own a 7000 series card?  It only seems to cover 4, 6, and FX series cards.
[01:53] <Popoi> hi
[01:53] <Grey_Loki> ExodusC, i'd check some of the stuff in the topic in #ubuntu+1
[01:58] <ferret_0568> I have a question for Xubuntu 7.04. What power manager does Xubuntu 7.04 use? Can I use gnome-screensaver and gnome-power-manager with Xubuntu?
[02:00] <ferret_0568> Is anybody alive?
[02:01] <Popoi> Emmmm... me? :p
[02:01] <Popoi> I guess you can, why don't you try it?
[02:01] <ferret_0568> I guess I can install xubuntu-desktop...
[02:02] <ferret_0568> This is Feisty though, so a guide that I have for removing DE's won't work
[02:02] <ferret_0568> Is deborphan recommended?
[02:02] <ferret_0568> I want to try out Xubuntu on my P4
[02:03] <BFTD> hrm
[02:05] <ferret_0568> Gah, updates are installing
[02:15] <Buddha|> Anyone here running Xubuntu on a PowerPC Mac?
[03:34] <ferret_0568> How do I use gnome-screensaver instead of xscreensaver?
[03:36] <ferret_0568> If you dunno, then why does when I close my laptop lid, my screen does not turn off more than 50% of the time, when in GNOME, it worked fine?
[03:55] <Diego> hey guys
[03:56] <Diego> where can i get drivers from for my ibm x20 under xubuntu?
[03:56] <Diego> all clear
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> Diego: the ThinkWiki may have a note - driver for what?
[03:59] <Diego> x20 notebook
[03:59] <Diego> and the inet connection doesnt work
[03:59] <Diego> where do i change the setup?
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> What kind of connection / card?
[04:05] <Diego> standard ethernet connection
[04:06] <Diego> inet is working on 3 other pc's (1 is kubuntu) but this one doesnt seem to know inet out of the box
[04:06] <Diego> :/
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> Must be a card driver issue
[04:10] <Diego> where can i get the drivers (all) for the x20 under xubuntu?
[04:16] <Pumpernickel> What kernel version are you running?
[04:18] <Diego> where can i find this information?
[04:18] <Pumpernickel> `uname -r`
[04:19] <Diego> 2.6.17-10
[04:20] <Diego> and why no inet connection?
[04:23] <Pumpernickel> Is 3c59x loaded? `lsmod |grep 3c59x`
[04:34] <gerro> I'm using xubuntu and I keep getting these errors on a program "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[04:34] <gerro> /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No such file or directory"
[04:35] <gerro> so is that some sort of legacy udev thing with sound piping?
[05:41] <bigfuzzyjesus> has anyone seen darthlappy lately
[05:41] <Pumpernickel> Check with seenserv.
[05:43] <Cygnet> anywhen know when Feisty is due out?
[05:43] <Cygnet> is there an official date?
[05:45] <supaiku> APril 19 I think
[05:45] <Pumpernickel> The week of April 19th.
[05:47] <Cygnet> woot, thanks
[06:47] <feliciano> hi there
[06:48] <feliciano> I need some help
[06:48] <feliciano> are anybody there
[06:49] <ongardie> feliciano: please ask your question; don't ask to ask
[06:49] <feliciano> ok, sorry
[06:51] <feliciano> I have xubuntu feisty, but I have some problem with the fonts... At the menu and the windows decarations y put a sanz size 8, but now the font is to small... but the font at firefox is ok. If I try to configure a bigger font, like 10 or 12, the menu font is ok, but the firefox font is huge...
[06:53] <ongardie> what if you now modify firefox's font settings?
[06:53] <feliciano> I try to do that... but no one setup modify the font of the menu
[06:56] <feliciano> ongardie, please see this http://www.flickr.com/photos/pobremortal/447968336/
[06:57] <ongardie> it's hard to see in the small screenshot, but i do believe you :)
[06:57] <ongardie> i'm not very familiar with it though
[06:58] <feliciano> you can view it a all size
[06:58] <feliciano> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=447968336&size=o
[06:59] <ongardie> oh oops
[07:00] <feliciano> no idea?
[07:01] <ongardie> hmm...well, when i just tried changing the font, firefox is now using 100% cpu
[07:01] <ongardie> ok it recovered...not sure what that was all about
[07:02] <feliciano> you dont have the same problem?
[07:02] <ongardie> i think i do
[07:03] <ongardie> oddly, my firefox menu fonts are much larger than my thunderbird ones
[07:03] <ongardie> i'm looking to see if there's a difference in the about:config's
[07:05] <feliciano> Opera can change menu font size, but firefox ... i cant find it
[07:06] <ongardie> doesn't look like i have any configuration differences between the two
[07:06] <ongardie> it's all pretty much default settings on both
[07:06] <ongardie> do you have thunderbird installed?
[07:07] <feliciano> nop
[07:12] <ongardie> ok here we go
[07:12] <ongardie> in firefox, go to the address about:config
[07:12] <ongardie> in the filter, type "layout"
[07:13] <ongardie> the first item in the list should be "layout.css.dpi" with a default value -1
[07:13] <ongardie> change that value to 0
[07:13] <ongardie> open a new firefox window
[07:14] <feliciano> :D
[07:14] <feliciano> genius
[07:14] <feliciano> how did you know that??
[07:14] <ongardie> found it at post #9 on this thread: http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?t=5184
[07:15] <ongardie> i didn't **know** that or i would have replied a whole lot faster :P
[07:18] <feliciano> thanks you
[07:18] <feliciano> so much
[07:19] <ongardie> no problem. can i have a small favor in return?
[07:19] <feliciano> if i cant... of course
[07:19] <feliciano> can
[07:19] <ongardie> i'm the developer of the new xfce4-places-plugin: http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-places-plugin
[07:19] <feliciano> sorry
[07:19] <feliciano> :p
[07:19] <ongardie> i just released version 0.1 yesterday and i'd like to get some more people to test it
[07:20] <ongardie> err...???
[07:20] <ongardie> don't i look like a fool :)
[07:20] <gpocentek> hello ongardie
[07:20] <ongardie> hehe, hello
[07:20] <gpocentek> I tested your previous release (or a svn snapshot) already
[07:21] <ongardie> oh yeah, how'd it go/what'd you think?
[07:21] <gpocentek> I'll certainly test this one, and I guess we'll include it in the next xubuntu
[07:21] <ongardie> sweet
[07:21] <gpocentek> ongardie: it's a nice app
[07:21] <feliciano> sorry ongardie
[07:21] <ongardie> trunk right now has support for volumes/disks :)
[07:21] <ongardie> feliciano: hehe np
[07:21] <feliciano> please explained me what can i do for u
[07:22] <ongardie> feliciano: as i was saying, i just released version 0.1 of my plugin yesterday and i could use some more testing/feedback on it
[07:22] <feliciano> ok
[07:22] <ongardie> feliciano: are you comfortable with building/compiling an app?
[07:22] <feliciano> I have to install it?
[07:23] <feliciano> not really
[07:23] <ongardie> oh...err...well there's no .deb yet, so don't worry about it
[07:23] <feliciano> but if you gime some instructions... may be
[07:23] <feliciano> or some place to learn
[07:23] <ongardie> feliciano: sure, let's take this to private messages though
[07:24] <ongardie> gpocentek: what's your role in xubuntu?
[07:43] <gpocentek> ongardie: I'm one of the main devs (we are 3 uploaders)
[07:44] <ongardie> gpocentek: ah, well nice to meet you then
[07:45] <gpocentek> :)
[07:45] <feliciano> wow
[07:45] <gpocentek> it's nice to see upstream around ;)
[07:47] <ongardie> gpocentek: there's not much xubuntu downstream like the gentoo and lunar-linux guys
[08:38] <markus_> did anyone manage to install enlightenment's "engage" panel? i get loads of dependency problems (libecore1 being nasty)
[08:40] <markus_> (i'll better ask in #elbuntu, they use e17)
[09:07] <hyper_ch> hiho
[09:10] <mrdarkside> hi
[09:10] <mrdarkside> need help
[09:11] <hyper_ch> really?
[09:11] <hyper_ch> you need help?
[09:11] <hyper_ch> or I need help?
[09:11] <hyper_ch> or both?
[09:11] <mrdarkside> been using xp on disk a
[09:11] <mrdarkside> bought a disk B and installed linux
[09:12] <hyper_ch> that's good :)
[09:13] <mrdarkside> somehow i corrupted xubuntu and now i cant enter any one, a nor b
[09:13] <mrdarkside> it was a grub problem
[09:14] <hyper_ch> then re-install grub again :)
[09:14] <mrdarkside> so i installed xubuntu on disk a (xp disk) so i can later retreive the data stored on linux disk b
[09:15] <hyper_ch> so didn't grub work anymore?
[09:15] <hyper_ch> did it work at some time?
[09:16] <mrdarkside> now when I plug the disk b xubuntu doesnt start
[09:16] <mrdarkside> it says something about device mapper fails
[09:16] <hyper_ch> why did you unplug the other diskdrive at all?
[09:17] <hyper_ch> it seems like in the bios your first booting device is your disk b and hence since grub is corrupted there it can't boot anymore
[09:17] <hyper_ch> and have you been trying to install feisty?
[09:17] <mrdarkside> nop
[09:18] <mrdarkside> coul it be that is because i installed linux with disk b unplugged?
[09:18] <hyper_ch> it depends on your boot menu
[09:18] <hyper_ch> this kind of things happens if you have a bootable partition and if that partition on that disk is given priority upon booting
[09:19] <hyper_ch> change in the bios the boot order of those two drives
[09:19] <hyper_ch> are they both ide or s-ata or mixed?
[09:19] <mrdarkside> ide both
[09:20] <hyper_ch> then check in the bios which is set to boot first from
[09:21] <mrdarkside> when i installed linux there was disk a only...after that i said: "well, now i'll just plug disk b and read the data from linux on disk"
[09:22] <mrdarkside> linux on disk a"
[09:22] <hyper_ch> you said before you installed linux on disk b
[09:22] <hyper_ch> so grub is still on there
[09:22] <hyper_ch> but that got corrupted you say
[09:22] <hyper_ch> so after installing it to disk a
[09:22] <hyper_ch> it runs fine when disk b is unplugged
[09:23] <hyper_ch> but it seems, that you have set int he bios disk b priority of disk a to boot
[09:23] <hyper_ch> and disk b has a bootable partition
[09:23] <hyper_ch> hence it will boot from disk b - which fails again - because that was your primary reason to reinstall linux on disk a
[09:23] <mrdarkside> i just wanted my linux  read disk b as a storage disk
[09:24] <mrdarkside> the scheme is this
[09:24] <hyper_ch> the intention of disk b doesn't matter
[09:24] <hyper_ch> according to what you said to me in the bios disk b has higher boot priority than disk a
[09:24] <hyper_ch> and disk b is somewhat corrupted hence the failure
[09:24] <hyper_ch> make disk a as first boot device in the bios
[09:25] <mrdarkside> yeap, but the master and the boot disk is a
[09:25] <mrdarkside> in bios too
[09:25] <hyper_ch> if you unplug disk b, can you boot?
[09:25] <mrdarkside> a is ide0 master and b is ide0slave
[09:26] <mrdarkside> the system boots from a
[09:26] <mrdarkside> but then it reaches a stage when its stop
[09:26] <hyper_ch> [09:28]  <hyper_ch> if you unplug disk b, can you boot?
[09:27] <mrdarkside> yeap
[09:27] <hyper_ch> you can boot normally? Linux is started?
[09:27] <mrdarkside> i can boot and work perfectly
[09:27] <mrdarkside> right now i am using it
[09:27] <mrdarkside> but my files are on the other disk
[09:27] <hyper_ch> then look at the boot order in the bios
[09:28] <mrdarkside> if i plug the disk b i cant start the OS
[09:28] <hyper_ch> then look at the boot order in the bios
[09:29] <mrdarkside> i've already checked that
[09:29] <hyper_ch> double check it
[09:29] <hyper_ch> disk a must have higher priority than disk b
[09:29] <mrdarkside> 1 cdrom 2 harddisk 3 floppy 4 usb...
[09:29] <hyper_ch> and what is the boot order of the harddisks?
[09:30] <mrdarkside> a first
[09:30] <hyper_ch> obviously not
[09:31] <hyper_ch> have you seen the entries of the harddisks in the bios and their respective priorities?
[09:32] <mrdarkside> with disk b plugged the sistem start linux xubuntu (disk a) loading, and then it get me to the error screen saying something about device mapper or map error
[09:32] <hyper_ch> if you don't want to listen and check those things I can't help you
[09:33] <mrdarkside> wait here
[09:33] <mrdarkside> 
[09:42] <mrdarkside> hey
[09:42] <mrdarkside> so
[09:43] <hyper_ch> yes?
[09:44] <mrdarkside> ide channel 0 master 40.......wdt....disk a
[09:44] <mrdarkside> ide channel 0 slave    80.......wdt.... disk b
[09:44] <mrdarkside> ide chanel 1 slave     ........................ cdrom
[09:44] <mrdarkside> boot config:
[09:44] <mrdarkside> boot secuence:
[09:44] <mrdarkside> fist boot device: hard disk
[09:46] <mrdarkside> hard disk priority:  1 40.........wdt.... disk a 2 other device dont remember
[09:46] <mrdarkside> thats with disk b plugged
[09:47] <hyper_ch> then I don't know
[09:47] <mrdarkside> so i started linux, it load the splash screen...
[09:47] <hyper_ch> it doesn't make sene
[09:47] <mrdarkside> yes it's does
[09:48] <mrdarkside> loading linux show me this error
[09:49] <mrdarkside> [numbers.number]  device-mapper: dm-linear : Device lookup failed
[09:50] <mrdarkside> are you there?
[09:53] <mrdarkside> anyone knows about device-mapper?
[09:59] <mrdarkside> hey!
[09:59] <mrdarkside> help!
[10:01] <posingaspopular> mrdarkside: sorry i duno what the answer is...
[10:02] <mrdarkside> i have a problem
[10:02] <mrdarkside> when i plug a hard disk
[10:03] <Merchelo> hotswapping?
[10:05] <mrdarkside> not
[10:05] <mrdarkside> i shutdown the pc
[10:05] <mrdarkside> then install the new drive and configure it so it is slave
[10:05] <mrdarkside> the i boot linux
[10:05] <mrdarkside> i have xubuntu
[10:06] <mrdarkside> but it reaches a stage when it tells me
[10:06] <mrdarkside> [numbers.number]  device-mapper: dm-linear : Device lookup failed
[10:08] <Merchelo> is that the only error?
[10:09] <mrdarkside> yeap
[10:12] <Merchelo> and vgdisplay tells you?
[10:12] <mrdarkside> wat?
[10:12] <mrdarkside> i cant do anithing because the message keep appearing
[10:13] <mrdarkside> so i shutdown and unplug the disk
[10:13] <Merchelo> is it formatted correctly?
[10:15] <mrdarkside> it was formatted and partitioned to install linux
[10:15] <mrdarkside> but i had an error with that disk
[10:15] <mrdarkside> so i used another
[10:16] <mrdarkside> and now i want to use it as a storage disk
[10:16] <mrdarkside> but i can even star linux with the disk plugged
[10:17] <jorg2> please, help me the chanel ubutun in the spanish  /join  ?
[10:17] <mrdarkside> aprende ingls
[10:18] <mrdarkside> sabes algo de linux?
[10:18] <mrdarkside> I need a geek
[10:18] <mrdarkside> :)
[10:19] <jorg2> quien va a saber si vengo de otro ambiente
[10:19] <mrdarkside> hey!!!!
[10:20] <mrdarkside> i need an intermdiate linux user
[10:22] <mrdarkside> hhey!!!!!
[10:22] <mrdarkside> anyone?
[10:32] <mrdarkside> help
[10:37] <mrdarkside> fuck you
[10:38] <Merchelo> heh
[11:05] <Merchelo> anyone ever try and install automatix on xubuntu 6.10 ?
[11:08] <hyper_ch> edon't use automatix
[11:11] <Merchelo> why not?
[11:11] <hyper_ch> it can break the system upon upgrades
[11:24] <Merchelo> hmm i can see that, the way it overwrites the sources.list :/
[11:26] <hyper_ch> Merchelo: I heard it has improved a lot meanwhile but you can still do all that stuff yourself and hence you will learn something and it won't break the system later :)
[11:26] <hyper_ch> automatix is great for new users to get up and running
[11:28] <Merchelo> yeah, i was just reading up about it, and changed a few things, and decided to go back to the old way of installing java :)
[11:30] <hyper_ch> Merchelo: have you been reinstalling the system a few times lately and do you think you will do a few times more?
[11:31] <Merchelo> no, i have xubuntu installed for a few months now, and don't bet on installing it, just fixing it rather than re-installation
[11:31] <hyper_ch> Merchelo: well, I just wrote myself an install script which will take care of most software that I need :)
[11:36] <Diego> hi all
[11:36] <Diego> what to do when there's no inet connction under xubuntu?
[11:38] <Diego> anyone here?
[11:38] <Agafonov> some :)
[11:39] <reaVer> you have wifi or something?
[11:39] <Diego> no, ethernet
[11:40] <Diego> other pc with kubuntu connected via same router
[11:40] <Diego> the one that doesnt want to connect is a ibm x20 notebook
[11:40] <reaVer> ah, notebooks:P
[11:40] <Diego> yeah, but at least ibm :p
[11:41] <Diego> thought these work well with linux
[11:41] <reaVer>  lspci|grep Eth
[11:41] <reaVer> enter that
[11:41] <Diego> k
[11:41] <reaVer> tell me what you get for output
[11:43] <Diego> different letters and explications
[11:43] <Diego> please be patient, i am totally new on linux :)
[11:43] <reaVer> ?
[11:43] <reaVer> you get garbage or do you get a chipname or something?
[11:43] <Diego> i didnt get the sign "|" into the console, us layout
[11:43] <Diego> nothing like that
[11:44] <Merchelo> above the enter key or there abouts shift+\
[11:44] <reaVer> then you'll get an error:P
[11:44] <reaVer> yeah, what Merchelo said:P
[11:46] <Diego> host bridge: intel corporation ....
[11:46] <Diego> what would help you?
[11:46] <reaVer> nope
[11:46] <reaVer> I need the Ethernet
[11:46] <reaVer> lspci|grep Eth here gives:
[11:46] <reaVer> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20)
[11:46] <reaVer> 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[11:48] <Diego> 00:0a.0 ethernet controller: intel corporation 82557/8/9 [ethernet pro 100]  (rev 09)
[11:48] <Diego> seems to be what you asked me for
[11:50] <Diego> what to do now?
[11:50] <reaVer> pray someone can help you:P
[11:50] <reaVer> I'm unable to find the module that would belong to it
[11:52] <reaVer> looks like you're fucked:P
[11:52] <reaVer> http://www.intel.com/support/network/adapter/1000/linux/e100.htm
[11:52] <reaVer> this namely seems to be the driver that belongs to it
[11:52] <reaVer> and that driver is not compatible with 2.6.*
[11:54] <Diego> not compatible???
[11:54] <reaVer> the module will probably not even compile on 2.6 kernels
[11:54] <Diego> looks bad
[11:55] <Diego> :/
[11:55] <reaVer> you'll have to wait till someone that does know IBMs comes by to help:P
[11:55] <reaVer> the guy I would ask is still in his bed
[11:55] <reaVer> :P
[11:56] <Diego> hmm, and i thought linux on ibm notebooks is no problem...
[11:56] <Diego> damn it
[11:56] <reaVer> that's what I thought too:P
[11:57] <Diego> well, it's an old notebook, but windows2000 was running on it too :P
[11:57] <Diego> damn ibm
[11:58] <Diego> no linux love for my old ibm...
[11:58] <reaVer> it's a very old notebook I'd say:P
[11:58] <Diego> its ok for what we would to use it
[11:59] <Diego> i bought it for 30euros with a friend to play with linux
[11:59] <Diego> maybe only 25
[11:59] <reaVer> och:P
[11:59] <k^^> Diego: I run xubuntu on an old T20, almost no problems
[11:59] <reaVer> k^^: then go help him with his ethernet:P
[12:00] <Diego> yeah, help me, please :)
[12:00] <Diego> i cant believe that, even 2000 was running, what a shame
[12:01] <k^^> I have no clue how to help you Diego :)
[12:01] <k^^> mine runs almost out the box
[12:01] <Diego> yeah, nice to know i am fucked up with my notebook
[12:02] <Diego> argh
[12:02] <Diego> you guys think anyone could help me?
[12:02] <Diego> or is this problem too big?
[12:03] <Diego> how about an ethernet adapter over pcmcia?
[12:03] <Diego> would this work?
[12:15] <KurtAriel> hello all, looking for some feedback/help maybe
[12:16] <Merchelo> ok
[12:16] <KurtAriel> Xubuntu latest beta on a Dell Ispiron 4000 laptop
[12:17] <KurtAriel> having X issues
[12:17] <KurtAriel> of some sort
[12:17] <KurtAriel> the screen is kind 0f "split" into 3 areas
[12:17] <KurtAriel> tried different boot settings, no resolution
[12:18] <KurtAriel> have Mepis (a Kubuntu basically) on the hdd and no probs with that like this
[12:18] <KurtAriel> tried changing res through desktop settings, no diff
[12:19] <KurtAriel> should I report this to the devels, or is it a LCD thing where I need to tweak xorg maybe?
[12:19] <KurtAriel> appreciate any help/input
[12:20] <KurtAriel> also, reduced workspaces to onlu one, problem remained
[12:20] <KurtAriel> sp *only
[12:35] <KurtAriel> could be this - comment #5 at this page: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/geekend/?p=197
[12:39] <hyper_ch> Diego: what ethernet card do you have in there?
[12:41] <k^^> anyone happends to know how I can make the gap between my desktop icons smaller?
[12:44] <gpocentek> k^^: you can set that in the desktop settings dialog IIRC
[12:44] <k^^> mkay
[12:44] <hyper_ch> k^^: you could set a higher screen resolution :)
[12:45] <hyper_ch> Diego: still here?
[12:45] <gpocentek> k^^: err, sorry, I misread what you wrote
[12:45] <k^^> ok?
[12:45] <gpocentek> I don't think that it's doable in fact
[12:45] <hyper_ch> k^^: better to ask in #xfce
[12:46] <k^^> ok I'll try that
[12:49] <hyper_ch> Diego: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=395422
[12:54] <Diego> i am here
[12:54] <Diego> thank you
[12:55] <Diego> https://systemausfall.org/wikis/howto/Debian_on_IBM_X20
[12:55] <Diego> we're now downloading alternate xubuntu with 2.20 kernel
[12:56] <Diego> do you think this may help?
[12:57] <hyper_ch> Diego: I don't know
[12:57] <hyper_ch> you're downloading feisty?
[01:01] <mirf> feisty fawwrrnnn
[01:01] <mirf> can't wait
[01:02] <hyper_ch> I'd rather recommend to download the desktop version
[01:02] <mirf> feisty is out on 19th?
[01:02] <Diego> feisty?
[01:02] <mirf> yeah
[01:02] <Diego> what is feisty? sry
[01:03] <Diego> ok, my friend knows it
[01:03] <mirf> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyFawn
[01:03] <hyper_ch> feisty is the new version of *ubuntu
[01:03] <Diego> thats what we're downloading right now
[01:03] <mirf> I'm gonna wait for may i think
[01:03] <hyper_ch> the partitioner in the herd3-5 release in the alternate install didn't work correctly, hence I had to get the desktop version
[01:06] <Diego> we're only having 128mb of ram, thats why we need the alternate version
[01:07] <Diego> or can you recommend something else?
[01:07] <hyper_ch> well, I don't know if the partitioner is now fixed in the beta release... as said, I used Herd3-5
[01:07] <Diego> ok, the download is almost finished, so we will give it a try :)
[01:07] <hyper_ch> don't forget to use CD-RW :)
[01:08] <Diego> eerm, it doesnt matter, we allready burned maybe 10-20 cds with linux distributions
[01:08] <Diego> :)
[01:09] <Diego> this is allready the 3rd cd for our little ibm
[01:09] <hyper_ch> that's why I said using cd-RW :)
[01:10] <Diego> the cd's aren't mine :p
[01:11] <hyper_ch> hehehe
[01:11] <Diego> na, thats ok, we will use them later i think
[01:11] <hyper_ch> well, you could meanwhile try what they did do on that thread in the ubuntuforums
[01:11] <hyper_ch> and I'm experimenting now
[01:12] <hyper_ch> hopefully I won't f*** everything up :)
[01:12] <Diego> ok, we will see, but i think this could be to complicatet for us
[01:12] <Diego> ok, its definitly to complicated for us :/
[01:12] <Diego> we're absolutely beginners on linux
[01:13] <Diego> hyper, are you from CH?
[01:16] <hyper_ch> yes
[01:17] <Diego> na wir auch
[01:17] <hyper_ch> !de
[01:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:17] <hyper_ch> ^^
[01:18] <Diego> nono, let's stay here :D
[01:18] <Diego> seems like you're a really good help for us
[01:18] <hyper_ch> I'm just a user
[01:19] <hyper_ch> Pumpernickel, TheSheep, maxamilion and a few others are the geeks in here :)
[01:19] <Diego> ok, but we're doing good with your help
[01:19] <Diego> where are you from?
[01:20] <hyper_ch> Switzerland
[01:20] <Diego> yeah, i noticed:)
[01:21] <Diego> but where in swizerland? we're from berne
[01:21] <Diego> ah
[01:21] <Diego> we're doing what they posted on the forum
[01:22] <hyper_ch> Originating from Solothurn but studying in St. Gallen
[01:23] <Diego> nice
[01:24] <Diego> we've got the new xubuntu now
[01:24] <Diego> restarting now the notebook, it was all exactly as posted in the forum
[01:28] <hyper_ch> so that solution from the forum helped?
[01:29] <Diego> we have now restarted the notebook, but there are further steps to do i think
[01:30] <Diego> but it looked good
[01:39] <Diego> oooooooooooooowwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[01:39] <Diego> it works
[01:39] <Diego> what a great feeling
[01:39] <Diego> :)
[01:40] <Diego> after such a horrible night
[01:40] <hyper_ch> hehehe
[01:40] <hyper_ch> the forums are a great ressource :)
[01:40] <Diego> yeah, we searched via google...
[01:40] <Diego> didnt find a lot
[01:40] <Diego> hmmm, wasted a cd again
[01:40] <Diego> :D
[01:41] <hyper_ch> you could try feisty
[01:41] <hyper_ch> it uses less system ressources I tend to think
[01:41] <Diego> hmm, first see what we cand do now
[01:42] <Diego> my first time running linux
[01:42] <mirf> 1st time is always trhe worst ;)
[01:42] <hyper_ch> linux is nice :)
[01:42] <Diego> maybe we will try it later
[01:42] <Diego> yeah, i like it allready
[01:43] <hyper_ch> and you did the right thing already :) coming in irc for asking for help :)
[01:43] <Diego> yeah
[01:44] <Diego> we would have thrown the notebook away today if we wouldnt have linux running on it properly
[01:44] <hyper_ch> I'd have taken it :)
[01:44] <Diego> know we were occupied for maybe 7 hours with this problem
[01:44] <hyper_ch> what video card is in there?
[01:44] <Diego> it is the 8mb i think
[01:44] <hyper_ch> nvidia?
[01:44] <hyper_ch> intel?
[01:44] <hyper_ch> ati?
[01:44] <hyper_ch> ...?
[01:44] <Diego> ati
[01:45] <Diego> its an old notebook
[01:45] <Diego> no 3d desktop i think :/
[01:45] <hyper_ch> no 3d desktop but maybe 3d acceleration of the card which can also improve speed :)
[01:47] <Diego> really? why need 3d acceleration for 2d office stuff? does this really help improving speed?
[01:54] <hyper_ch> I think so
[01:55] <Diego> ah ok
[01:55] <hyper_ch> btw, #ubuntu-de is also nice :)
[01:55] <hyper_ch> more people there
[01:55] <Diego> really?
[01:55] <Diego> oh, so lets go over there:)
[01:56] <hyper_ch> I am already there :)
[01:56] <Diego> i am now too
[02:40] <b52laptop> hello
[02:42] <b52laptop> one question , how could i remove xubuntu small startup animations durint the boot , and print strartup up boots details
[02:42] <b52laptop> ?
[02:47] <hyper_ch> !bootsplash
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <hyper_ch> !nosplash
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nosplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:55] <b52laptop> hyper_ch,  i was not  speaking about grub sbootspalsh but ubuntu one
[03:14] <gpocentek> b52laptop: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst, and drop the "splash" option from the kernel boot line
[03:15] <Qew> I think that b52laptop is referring to the animated splash that happens when Xfce starts, not the boot splash.
[03:16] <gpocentek> aaah
[03:17] <Qew> b52laptop: Try: Settings>Splash Screen Settings and set to none
[03:26] <b52laptop> Qew,  yeap , thanks
[03:27] <ghatak> Hi, I am an Ubuntu user, currently running Fiesty Fawn, I want to switch to XUbuntu with minimal disrruption to my stuff and work. What is the best path I should take ?
[03:29] <b52laptop> gpocentek, thks
[04:25] <knw> I need hlep
[04:27] <ormiret> what's the problem knw?
[04:27] <knw> I had beryl running
[04:27] <knw> I'm running festy
[04:27] <knw> everything went crazy
[04:27] <knw> I lost my workplaces
[04:27] <knw> and my title bars
[04:27] <knw> I can't resize or move anything around
[04:28] <knw> I ran all updates
[04:28] <knw> got some new vid drivers
[04:29] <knw> then I managed to get my title bars back up
[04:29] <knw> in terminal
[04:29] <knw> I used metacity
[04:29] <knw> but if I close the termial everything goes back to normal
[04:30] <ormiret> if beryl is doing crazy things I'd say close it and go back to xfwm4
[04:34] <knw> ya
[04:34] <knw> I uninstalled beryl
[04:35] <knw> then I had to reinstall compiz
[04:35] <knw> and metacity
[04:35] <knw> to get my title bars back
[04:36] <ormiret> you shouldn't have needed to. Was xfwm4 running?
[04:36] <knw> yes
[04:36] <knw> now it isn't
[04:37] <knw> cuase once I lose my terminal
[04:37] <knw> it's over
[04:37] <knw> I can't move anything around
[04:37] <knw> so I can't access my menues
[04:37] <knw> so I have to alt+ctrl+backspace
[04:37] <ormiret> Alt-F2 gets run dialogue and you can start xfwm4 from there
[04:38] <knw> what's the command that I need to type
[04:39] <knw> I can go trough my menues right now
[04:39] <knw> but only cuase I have metacity running in a terminal
[04:41] <ormiret> The easy way to fix it is lose metacity, use alt-F2 to get the run dialogue and run 'xfwm4' from there, then logout saving the session so it starts automatically next time.
[04:41] <ormiret> *close matacity
[04:41] <knw> I just run xfwm4
[04:42] <knw> should i see changes upon running of the command
[04:42] <ormiret> yes
[04:42] <knw> nothing changed
[04:42] <ormiret> have you got a terminal open?
[04:42] <knw> the window just went away
[04:42] <knw> yes
[04:42] <knw> for metacity
[04:42] <knw> if I close that
[04:43] <knw> I can't even type in here
[04:43] <knw> everything locks up
[04:43] <knw> that's why
[04:43] <knw> haha
[04:43] <ormiret> Oh right, you have to close metacity before xfwm4 can take over
[04:43] <sinkorswim> how can I update thunar to version 0.8.0? apt-get install / update only seems to install 0.4.0
[04:44] <knw> do I have to have it clicked to run in terminal
[04:44] <knw> or no?
[04:44] <knw> cuase in the run box I get an option
[04:44] <ormiret> no, you don't want it to run in terminal
[04:44] <knw> ok cool
[04:45] <knw> yes!
[04:45] <knw> that worked
[04:46] <ormiret> sinkorswim: what version of xubuntu are you running? 0.4.0 is the newest available in edgy 0.8.0 is available in feisty
[04:46] <ormiret> knw: excellent, remember to save the session when you log out so it starts automatically next time you log in.
[04:47] <knw> the problem that still resides is that all my windows that I have open show up 2 times in my bar
[04:48] <ormiret> twice next to each other or two sets of all running programs?
[04:48] <knw> ya next to each other is the same program
[04:48] <knw> for example I only have xchat open
[04:48] <knw> but it shows up 2 times
[04:48] <sinkorswim> ormiret: I'm using edgy, but I was under the impression that individual linux programs can be updated as and when needed?
[04:48] <knw> in my bottom bar
[04:49] <sinkorswim> i.e thunar 0.8.0 without having to upgrade to feisty, or is that not possible?
[04:49] <knw> and I can click both
[04:50] <knw> but it's not 2 instances for the same program
[04:50] <knw> if I was to open up some thing else that will also show up twice
[04:50] <ormiret> sinkorswim: possible but certainly not easy, the updates after release are just to fix security problems or major bugs.
[04:51] <ormiret> knw: can you close one of the xchats (probably an idea to try another app rather than xchat so you don't disconnect from here if you can't (: )?
[04:52] <sinkorswim> ormiret: i c, thanks
[04:52] <knw> ya they all show 2 times
[04:53] <knw> but there is space between them
[04:53] <knw> so I was to open up another program
[04:53] <knw> shows up like it would normaly show up in the bar
[04:53] <knw> but 2 times
[04:54] <knw> with anything
[04:54] <knw> seems like my bar is devided in half
[04:54] <knw> and whatever is showing in one half
[04:54] <knw> shows up in the next half
[04:54] <ormiret> Are you getting "xchat xcaht other_app other_app" or "xchat other_app" x2?
[04:55] <knw> "xchat other_app                   xchat other_app"
[04:55] <knw> so if I was to open up something else
[04:56] <knw> I would get "xchat other_app 3rd_app           xchat other_app 3rd_app"
[04:56] <ormiret> OK, that sounds like two icon boxes running, right click in the blank psace to the right of the app icons and selct remove from the popup menu.
[04:58] <knw> yes!!
[04:58] <knw> good job
[04:58] <knw> ok next problem ={
[04:58] <knw> it's not gui related
[05:02] <knw> k I just reloged
[05:02] <knw> with save session
[05:02] <knw> I sitll had to run
[05:02] <knw> xfwm4
[05:02] <knw> to get my title bars back
[05:03] <knw> and my workspaces
[05:03] <knw> !ntfs
[05:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:05] <ormiret> That's odd, what did you change to get beryl/compiz to start automatically?
[05:06] <knw> well
[05:06] <knw> I unistalled
[05:06] <knw> beryl
[05:06] <knw> from terminal
[05:06] <knw> and then synaptico packet manager
[05:07] <knw> I removed it from there
[05:07] <knw> cause it was night mare
[05:07] <knw> I could do anything once beryl decide to die on me
[05:08] <knw> couldn't click on anything
[05:08] <knw> once I unsitalled it
[05:08] <knw> all my windows were missing
[05:08] <knw> titlebars
[05:08] <knw> so I went to the forums of course
[05:09] <knw> ran the compiz command to give me some stats
[05:09] <knw> but it showed as not being installed
[05:09] <knw> so I rand the pakage
[05:09] <knw> then ran metacity
[05:09] <knw> I also had to install that as well
[05:10] <knw> then I got title bars back
[05:10] <knw> but only if I was running the terminal
[05:10] <ormiret> Yeah it looks like the change that beryl or you made to swap xfwm4 for beryl is still preventing xfwm4 from running at startup, so I was wondering if you did anything to change to beryl after installing it and what that was.
[05:11] <knw> I ran all updates
[05:11] <knw> cuase I tought it was video card drives
[05:11] <knw> since I got a ATI 9800 pro Radeon all in wonder
[05:11] <knw> there was actaullly a driver update
[05:11] <knw> that came in trought automaticly
[05:12] <ormiret> knw: were you following instructions to install beryl?
[05:13] <knw> I did but then I came across a script
[05:13] <knw> so I just ran the script
[05:13] <knw> asked me few questions
[05:13] <knw> and did everything
[05:13] <ormiret> could you point me at the script so I can have a look at what it changed?
[05:14] <knw> yes sure
[05:14] <knw> let me find it
[05:18] <knw> I think I have it saved
[05:18] <knw> but I can't find the link
[05:19] <ormiret> if you've got the script file then copy it into the pastebin
[05:19] <ormiret> !pastebin
[05:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:23] <knw> http://distfiles.gentoo-xeffects.org/beryl-setup
[05:23] <knw> I found it
[05:28] <Carsten[DE] > Hi there!
[05:29] <Carsten[DE] > I found:
[05:29] <Carsten[DE] > /etc/modutils/snd-es18xx
[05:29] <Carsten[DE] > /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/kernel/sound/isa/snd-es18xx.ko
[05:29] <Carsten[DE] > ...but modprobe and lsmod fail... how can I can get access to this driver?
[05:30] <Pumpernickel> What error message(s) do you get?
[05:31] <Carsten[DE] > FATAL module not found
[05:31] <ormiret> knw: that script makes changes to your gdm config that I'm not sure how to undo.
[05:31] <Carsten[DE] > while i found this multiple times under /usr/src/..... as .h .c .o .ko
[05:31] <Carsten[DE] > i tried in home
[05:31] <Carsten[DE] > and in dir of file
[05:32] <Carsten[DE] > modprobe fails all the time
[05:32] <brokenbin> how do i install win32 codecs again?
[05:32] <Pumpernickel> !w32codecs
[05:32] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:32] <Pumpernickel> Carsten[DE] : What's the result of `uname -a`?
[05:32] <brokenbin> Pumpernickel: i was just there, but i don't know how to find one
[05:32] <Carsten[DE] > Linux magellan 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Sep 8 19:55:17 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:32] <knw> dgm config does?
[05:33] <Carsten[DE] > I installes 6.06 from alternate CDROM
[05:34] <Carsten[DE] > http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/8966/ (lspci)
[05:35] <ormiret> gdm is the program that handles login and starting your session, one thing that I've noticed is it creates an autostart file in '~/.config/autostart' called beryl-manager-xfce.desktop, if that is still there remove it.
[05:35] <Pumpernickel> Carsten[DE] : What was the complete modprobe command you ran?
[05:37] <knw> do you know the location of the file
[05:38] <knw> and must be loged in as a root user?
[05:38] <ormiret> '.config/autostart' from you're home folder and you houldn't need to be root to remove it
[05:39] <knw> I can't find it under home
[05:39] <knw> aleks@linux:/home$ ~/.config/autostart
[05:39] <knw> bash: /home/aleks/.config/autostart: No such file or directory
[05:40] <ormiret> knw run 'cd ~/.config && ls' and see if autostart is in the output
[05:41] <knw> gtk-2.0   Terminal  xfburn  xfce4-session
[05:41] <knw> mousepad  Thunar    xfce4   xfce4-taskmanager.rc
[05:43] <knw> that's all I get under home
[05:44] <ormiret> did you use the --setup option for that script?
[05:45] <knw> yes
[05:47] <exlt> hi all - this mornings update now gives me desktop icons - one for another local mounted partition, and another for an unknown unmountable device called 'SERVICEV001' - there is nothing in ~/Desktop, nor have I seen this behavior before - my love of xfce is that it does not do odd auto-things unless I tell it to..  any help on disabling whatever this is - I have looked for new unfamiliar processes, and have not put my finger on it..
[05:48] <exlt> oh, this is feisty
[05:48] <Pumpernickel> Feisty support in #ubuntu+1.
[05:49] <exlt> for xubuntu, as well?
[05:49] <Pumpernickel> Yeah.
[05:49] <exlt> thanks
[05:50] <knw> I'm wondering if I should just install edgy over feisty
[05:51] <ormiret> knw: is there a file /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom' on your system?
[05:52] <knw> yes there is
[05:53] <ormiret> is there also a gdm.conf in the same folder?
[05:53] <knw> yep
[05:55] <ormiret> right in that case remove the gdm.conf-custom (probably safest to move it somewhere rather than deleting it in case this makes things worse...) you will need root privs to do this.
[05:55] <knw> should I just rename it
[05:56] <ormiret> yeah that ought to be enough to make gdm use the normal gdm.conf
[05:56] <knw> sorry what was the command to rename
[05:57] <knw> mv fire file2?
[05:57] <ormiret> yes
[06:01] <knw> nice
[06:01] <knw> k
[06:01] <knw> the renamed it
[06:01] <knw> relog now?
[06:02] <ormiret> yeah, that should be all the things that script did reverted (except package installations, but you removed them already)
[06:03] <knw> ya I did that
[06:03] <knw> I'm really new to this
[06:04] <knw> seems everything I do endup being a night mare =] 
[06:04] <knw> ok
[06:04] <knw> gonna relog now
[06:06] <knw> that worked!
[06:07] <ormiret> excellent.
[06:07] <knw> =p
[06:08] <knw> ok now mounting my ntfs partitions
[06:08] <knw> the show on my desktop
[06:08] <knw> I have the icons setup
[06:08] <knw> but they won't mount
[06:10] <ormiret> sorry I've got no idea about ntfs, I haven't tried to interoperate with windows since before the move to ntfs.
[06:11] <knw> thanks a lot you've been great help
[06:12] <knw> what clinet do you use for irc
[06:12] <knw> I used to use mIRC
[06:12] <knw> I need to wine it but before I do that I need get my ntfs partions mounted
[06:16] <ormiret> I'm currently using irssi, but I think I'm going to mov to erc at some point since I prefer emacs window management to irssi's
[06:17] <knw> I can't figure out how to display users in xchat
[06:17] <knw> like all the users in the channel
[06:17] <knw> in the separate window
[06:33] <knw> what was the channel for feisty
[06:38] <Casio_> hi
[06:38] <Casio_> someone here ?
[06:38] <Casio_> :)
[06:40] <ormiret> yes
[06:51] <Ance> hi
[06:52] <Ance> i have problem with xfce4.4 i have new options in xfce4-session-logout "switch user" ask can i this options disabled ?
[06:55] <ormiret> I don't think you can get rid of it. I'm intrigued though, why do you want to?
[06:58] <Casio_> hi
[06:59] <Ance> ormiret: i not wil this options "switch user" in logout
[06:59] <Ance> i wil default options : reboot exit logout
[07:00] <Ance> wil = want
[07:02] <ormiret> It doesn't do anything if you just ignore the button.
[07:03] <Pumpernickel> Actually, it bites you if you don't use it enough.  That's a new feature since 4.3.99.
[07:08] <Ance> 4:3.99 ?
[07:11] <VladimirBG> hi
[07:12] <VladimirBG> I'm using ubuntu 6.06, but I find it a big heavy on resources, and I'm thinking about switching to Xubuntu
[07:12] <VladimirBG> do you suggest 6.06, 6.10 or should I wait for 7.04?
[07:12] <VladimirBG> (laptop, proriatery ati drivers are a must)
[07:13] <Pumpernickel> Wait for 7.04.  It has Xfce 4.4 stable, and it'll only be a short wait - it's due out the week of the 19th.
[07:14] <VladimirBG> O_o
[07:14] <VladimirBG> sounds nice
[08:03] <KurtKraut> Is there any equivalent to network-manager (Ubuntu) for Xubuntu ?
[08:04] <maxamillion> KurtKraut: not entirely, that is actually something that is in development at the moment but you are able to install the network manager from ubuntu in xubuntu if you like or if you need it for only wifi i would recommend wifi-radar as an alternative
[08:05] <KurtKraut> maxamillion, this solution under developtment would not require Gnome dependencies, right ?
[08:05] <maxamillion> KurtKraut: correct
[08:06] <KurtKraut> God to know that
[08:06] <KurtKraut> Now, just have to wait for feisty+1 :P
[08:06] <KurtKraut> *good
[08:06] <maxamillion> KurtKraut: unfortunately it is still in early development so it probably won't appear until feisty+1 ... though we wish it could be out now
[08:06] <KurtKraut> maxamillion, hm... I see
[08:09] <maxamillion> KurtKraut: there are actually two alternatives we are chosing between, both in early development and neither requiring gnome-libs ... one of them is being developed by a xfce core developer and the other by a third party dev .... http://compwiz18.blackhole.cx/wicd/wb/ and http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig#screenies
[08:10] <maxamillion> KurtKraut: i believe the one called "airconfig" is the one being developed by the xfce core developer
[08:10] <KurtKraut> maxamillion, I'll test one by one
[08:11] <maxamillion> :)
[08:21] <hyper_ch> hiho
[08:22] <maxamillion> hello
[08:22] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: my friend, I have an issue :) how do I permanently load a kernel module?
[08:25] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: "sudo nano /etc/modules" add the module name (the name you use to modprobe it) to the end of the list, save and exit ... should load next boot
[08:25] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: thx :)
[08:26] <maxamillion> anytime :)
[08:27] <hyper_ch> now I have to fix that gpilot/evolution or kpilot/kontact issue :(
[08:27] <maxamillion> ?
[08:28] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: well, when I sync from my palm lifedrive not all contact details are being transferred.... birthdates and pictures that I have on the lifedrive don't show up in evolution and kontact
[08:31] <maxamillion> oh .... that's no good ....
[08:31] <maxamillion> i sadly don't have fun hardware like a palm lifedrive so i wouldn't be of much help
[08:31] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: oooo!!! but maybe you can answer a question for me
[08:32] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: i was planning on buying either a lifedrive or a T|X (because they have wifi) but i was wondering if they support WEP/WPA/WPA2 and if they come with a VPN client
[08:32] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: I can try :)
[08:34] <hyper_ch> wep is supported... don't know about wpa/2 and they support vpn clients but don't come with one
[08:35] <maxamillion> ok, i saw some vpn clients for it that cost roughly $30 (which isn't that bad) ... just thought i would ask
[08:36] <hyper_ch> the life drive supports wpa-psk
[08:36] <hyper_ch> does the t|x have the option of using sd-cards?
[08:37] <maxamillion> i believe so
[08:37] <hyper_ch> well, the reason I bought the ld was the 4gb drive in there
[08:38] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: did you have to buy anything extra for wifi or did it need something? (when i read somewhere it says something like "wifi ready" and i didn't know what that meant)
[08:38] <hyper_ch> the tx would be smaller and more handy and sd cards won't take long time
[08:38] <hyper_ch> until they also have 4gb
[08:38] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: no, wifi is installed already
[08:38] <maxamillion> yeah ... the main reason i need a palm is for wifi around campus and keeping my schedule
[08:39] <hyper_ch> hehe.... yeah, wifi works out of the box... wep and wpa-psk
[08:39] <maxamillion> awesome
[08:40] <hyper_ch> it's quite nice :)
[08:40] <hyper_ch> but as said, pictures and birthdates that I saved on the lifedrived aren't being synced
[08:43] <hyper_ch> maxamillion: oh and you need to replace the built-in browser (blazer) with Opera :)
[08:45] <hyper_ch> I wonder how long it'll still take to prepare my harddisk :(
[08:48] <hyper_ch> it's been on it server hours now :)
[09:20] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: another thing ... is there a ssh client for palm?
[09:21] <hyper_ch> haven't checked
[09:21] <maxamillion> hmmm... because it would be really cool to be able to admin my servers while sitting in class
[09:21] <maxamillion> hyper_ch: found one :) http://www.sealiesoftware.com/pssh/
[09:22] <maxamillion> nvm ... says its insecure
[09:35] <kalikiana> Hi there, can anyone help me: I can't access my email server and it says "Quota exceeded".
[09:36] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: then delete some mails there
[09:36] <kalikiana> hyper_ch, I cannot access any folder, so I can not delete any mail.
[09:37] <hyper_ch> delete it through webmail
[09:37] <hyper_ch> or ssh
[09:37] <kalikiana> ss?
[09:38] <kalikiana> Actually webmail doesn't work either. Only reporting an error.
[09:38] <hyper_ch> ssh
[09:38] <hyper_ch> !ssh
[09:38] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[09:38] <kalikiana> How would I delete mail via ssh?
[09:39] <kalikiana> I tried to connect via telnet already, but didn't manage to delete or even view mails.
[09:40] <hyper_ch> ssh user@server.com
[09:41] <brokenbin> maxamillion: how do i install win32 codecs for totem?
[09:42] <hyper_ch> !codecs
[09:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:42] <brokenbin> hyper_ch: i have been there
[09:43] <brokenbin> hyper_ch: but i couldn't find what i was looking for
[09:43] <kalikiana> hyper_ch, I think my server doesn't permit ssh. It's a webhoster by the way.
[09:44] <hyper_ch> brokenbin: then google for Seveas' repositories
[09:44] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: then I can't help you
[09:44] <kalikiana> Ok, thank you anyway.
[09:45] <ormiret> kalikiana: you'll probably have to speak to tech support for the host and get them to delete some mails for you
[09:46] <kalikiana> ormiret, I sent them an email but currently nobody answers. Is there no other way?
[09:51] <hyper_ch> kalikiana: is it imap?
[09:51] <kalikiana> hyper_ch, yes it is.
[09:52] <hyper_ch> why not deleting first a mail locally and then trying to sync?
[09:59] <kalikiana> hyper_ch, I tried to delete some mail with attachments, but that doesn't seem to work although they "disappeared" from my folders as they should.
[11:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> anyone seen erstazi
[11:59] <maxamillion> !seen erstazi
[11:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen erstazi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:59] <maxamillion> what?!?!
[11:59] <maxamillion> bigfuzzyjesus: no ... no i haven't
[11:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> maxamillion, they got rid of the seen command
[11:59] <bigfuzzyjesus> dont ask me why
[11:59] <maxamillion> i notived :/
[12:00] <bigfuzzyjesus> :(
[12:01] <Pumpernickel> Dude, use seenserv.
[12:01] <maxamillion> Pumpernickel: ?
[12:01] <Pumpernickel> seenserv is a freenode service to find out when someone last was on the freenode network.
[12:03] <maxamillion> ah
[12:16] <atarinox> does anybody know...will there be a Feisty release for xubuntu on april 19?
[12:19] <maxamillion> atarinox: that is the current plan, but we might be behind by a day or two