[12:17] <nrg88> manchicken|away: when you get back: i could not reproduce it, if you have time and maybe a backtrace, you could report it on http://bugs.kde.org/
[01:46] <manchicken> nrg88: Thanks.  Wil do.
[01:46] <manchicken> will*
[01:46] <manchicken> Time to try my new PalmOS phone in KDE...
[01:49] <nixternal> which phone did you get?
[01:49] <manchicken> Treo 700
[01:49] <nixternal> PalmOS and KPilot work great, but you might want to checkout from KDE SVN the latest KitchenSync for it
[01:49] <nixternal> I think the version of KitchenSync in Kubuntu is rather broken
[01:50] <nixternal> KPilot is spit image of the silly Palm Desktop actually
[01:50] <nixternal> it may not automatically see your device though if you run an auto check
[01:51] <manchicken> Does it integrate with kontact?
[01:55] <manchicken> Do I have to install anything other than kpilot to get it to work?
[01:55] <manchicken> It looks like it's looking for /dev/pilot, but there is no such device...
[02:01] <manchicken> Gotta go.  Back later.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> manchicken: awake?
[07:46] <nixternal> he is trying to sync his new treo, and losing his hair while trying
[07:47] <DaSkreech> Ah I was wondering if Pupeno2's experience would be of help to him
[07:47] <manchicken> Yeah.
[07:48] <manchicken> I'm having to install stuff using the windows thing.
[07:48] <manchicken> Stupid Verizon gave me all this extra palm software, but it requires the palm desktop program to install it.
[07:48] <manchicken> Garbage.
[07:48] <manchicken> LMAO
[07:48] <manchicken> "***IS_STRING_NOT_DEFINED*** is the message that just showed up in this dialog.
[07:51] <nixternal> manchicken: I use KPilot to install applications
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Yeah I was just thinking that
[07:51] <nixternal> I install everything, and I mean everything
[07:51] <DaSkreech> manchicken: I'm going to try triage this guy first
[07:53] <manchicken> No, I mean this thing is using a weird format.
[07:53] <manchicken> But if you can help me figure out how to sync DATA, that'd rock pretty hard.
[07:53] <manchicken> I'd appreciate it greatly :)
[07:54] <nixternal> manchicken: you know what, the conduits do work in Kontact, they are just hidden
[07:54] <nixternal> that is right
[07:54] <nixternal> I syncd my addressbook
[07:54] <nixternal> and my calendar
[07:55] <nixternal> under Kontact, go to Settings > Kontact
[07:55] <nixternal> there you will see the KPilot Configuration
[07:55] <nixternal> in there you can select what you want to sync
[07:55] <nixternal> I forgot about that, sorry
[07:57] <nixternal> the only thing I can't do is email with mine because the default palm email app is garbage
[07:58] <nixternal> g'nite
[07:58] <manchicken> Right, but the logs say that it doesn't work.
[07:59] <manchicken> And palm desktop went stupid on vista, so I'm doing another restore point.
[07:59] <manchicken> I really hope that they did better with the restore points in vista than they did on xp.
[07:59] <DaSkreech> manchicken: does the kubuntu upgrade tool update the version of adept?
[07:59] <manchicken> I've hit that like 6 times now.
[08:00] <manchicken> DaSkreech: You mean the silly message that adept shows you when it's done updating?
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Well there is apparently a slew of folks in the channel who followed the instructions but don't get the upgrade tool triggered
[08:01] <DaSkreech> I'm trying to figure out if they did an update
[08:01] <manchicken> I don't think they did.
[08:01] <DaSkreech>  they say the Full upgrade button is disabled
[08:01] <DaSkreech> well one guy does :-)
[08:01] <manchicken> Which guy?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> pupeno2
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ok he said he got the wizard a while back but didn't want to upgrade
[08:03] <DaSkreech>  now he does how does he invoke the wizard?
[08:04] <manchicken> There is no upgrade
[08:04] <manchicken> If he's running feisty, I think it's a bug in adept.
[08:04] <DaSkreech> He's in Edgy
[08:04] <manchicken> Don't know who put it there (I haven't touched that side of the code in some time).
[08:05] <manchicken> I don't think we're upgrading people through adept just yet.
[08:05] <DaSkreech> he wants to upgrade to feisty
[08:06] <manchicken> Ah.
[08:06] <manchicken> Send him to the wiki page in /topic
[08:07] <DaSkreech> He's done that
[08:08] <manchicken> Then he should be on feisty.
[08:08] <DaSkreech> But there are no updates so he can't click the Full upgrade button
[08:08] <manchicken> Interesting.
[08:08] <DaSkreech> Nope :-)
[08:08] <manchicken> And you're certain he set up the repos?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> He did the thing with adding the new repos
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  he updated and it asked him if he wanted to upgrade to feisty
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  he said no
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  since two weeks ago he didn't want to
[08:09] <DaSkreech>  now he does want to
[08:10] <DaSkreech> but he has no updates available in adept and he doesn't know how to get it to prompt him to upgrade to feisty again
[08:10] <manchicken> Did he fetch updates again?>
[08:10] <manchicken> And are the repo changes still there?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> http://paste.lisp.org/display/39350
[08:11] <DaSkreech> that's his sources.list
[08:12] <manchicken> Also, make sure he hits fetch updates
[08:12] <manchicken> Yeah, he's missing the repos.
[08:13] <manchicken> And why does he have a debian repo in there?
[08:13] <DaSkreech> I don't know
[08:13] <DaSkreech>  I was wondering that too
[08:13] <poningru> http://geekz.co.uk/schneierfacts/fact/122
[08:14] <DaSkreech> manchicken: which repo is he missing?
[08:15] <manchicken> Any of 'em
[08:15] <manchicken> I understand he's just using a mirror of one, but why don't we, for the sake of keeping it simple, use the one outlined in JR's wiki?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> isn't the edgy-proposed sufficent ?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> manchicken: Oh the gb one?
[08:19] <manchicken> Yeah
[08:20] <manchicken> I don't know if that's sufficient or not.
[08:20] <DaSkreech> I don't think the gb makes a difference really
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Who did the upgrade tol?
[08:22] <DaSkreech> tool?
[08:22] <manchicken> JR
[08:23] <DaSkreech> hmmm
[08:23] <DaSkreech> no idea how it's invoked?
[08:27] <manchicken> Not really.
[08:31] <DaSkreech> :-(
[08:33] <DaSkreech> any documentation on it?
[08:33] <manchicken> That wiki page :)
[08:34] <DaSkreech> heehee
[08:36] <manchicken> I wonder if the reason I couldn't sync stuff is because kontact was open.
[08:37] <manchicken> Nope.  Still nothing.
[10:50] <giangy> 'morning
[11:30] <Tm_T> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:30] <Tm_T> hmm, am I only one?
[11:30] <Tm_T> ah, it's gone
[11:30] <Tm_T> weird though
[12:03] <fdoving> Tm_T: /etc/cron.daily/apt might lock that.
[12:31] <Tm_T> fdoving: hmh, daily is runned by night
[12:39] <fdoving> Tm_T: yes, it's the only thing i can think of that locks /var/lib/apt/lists/ without user-intervention.
[12:40] <Tm_T> fdoving: that's what I think too, anyway, weird timing, right after boot
[12:40] <fdoving> that could be it.
[12:40] <Tm_T> there's been over 10 power outages in last 14 hours
[12:41] <Tm_T> here too :p
[12:41] <fdoving> anacron will probably try to do the tasks not accomplished yet.
[12:41] <Tm_T> hmm, that would be nasty
[12:42] <fdoving> it's why we use anacron, and not cron.
[12:43] <Tm_T> hmm, that would explain few things
[12:43] <fdoving> http://qtnode.net/pastebin/2673
[12:43] <fdoving> from 'man anacron'
[12:44] <Tm_T> thanks
[12:44] <Tm_T> now I know why sometimes my system gets slow after boot :p
[12:45] <fdoving> :)
[04:10] <Hobbsee> manchicken|away: surely the "upgrade to the new release" and the dialog box saying that it's downloading the changelog thing should be greyed out / hidden?
[07:47] <ded> mhb: hi your solution for port gdebi was better than mine ! can i help you on it ? what have you done?
[08:46] <x3m-tux> hello
[08:47] <x3m-tux> some more have font problems here in kubuntu?
[08:48] <x3m-tux> hmm al are sleeping here :-(
[08:56] <fdoving> does the intel 950 work with dualhead? i'm thinking of buying a laptop with one of those graphic adapters.
[08:56] <fdoving> preferably mergedfb
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Riddell: Ping
[11:26] <yuriy> hey manchicken
[11:51] <fdoving> so bug 61946 should've been fixed before feisty.
[11:51] <ubotu> Malone bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss]  umount progress dialog missing" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/61946
[11:52] <yuriy> btw automounting doesn't seem to be working for my card reader right now..
[11:54] <fdoving> can't be that hard to make a progress bar.
[11:54] <fdoving> for the unmounting part.