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josh_ PhinnFort: me neither.12:12
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flyte_I can't connect to my kubuntu machine via freeNX, does anyone know how to interpret the freenx log?12:15
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mlooQ: I just tried to install ubuntu 7.04 on my acer aspire5020/ATIX700 videocard. The gui was completely messed up. I could not reach any "continue buttons". Anybody had similar problems?12:16
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junocdxAnyone have any experiance with ATICONFIG?12:16
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jhutchinsjunocdx: Too many different possibilities.12:17
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jhutchins!ati | junocdx12:17
ubotujunocdx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:17
junocdxjhutchins: i have the drivers installed.  I need help getting it set the way I want12:17
jhutchinsmloo: Feisty (7.04) is still in #ubuntu+112:18
mloonot really. fglrx worx fine for me. thoug I have to set the resolution in xorg.conf manually12:18
mlooI know... I would like to test it...12:18
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mloojust got a 320G external gd. So I have some room to experiment :)12:19
mloogd-->hd :/12:19
jhutchinsmloo: Right, just saying you'll probably get better answers to Feisty questions in that channel.12:19
jhutchinsmloo: All I can do here is point you to !fixres.12:19
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mloothnx12:20
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junocdxso noone can help me?12:21
BluesKajjunocdx: i got fedup with fooling around ATI config files ...I installed "Envy" and now everything works12:23
mloo<junocdx>: what do you want to acomplish?12:23
BluesKaj!Envy | junocdx12:23
ubotujunocdx: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia912:23
mloo3D/openGL/compiz?12:23
junocdxI have dual monitors.  I want to change the resolutions on them.12:24
junocdxand I'm not sure what I'm supposed ot save to either12:24
aaroncampbellI keep getting this error: configure: error: Could not find liblcms.a12:24
aaroncampbellhowever, that package isn't available, and I have liblcms112:24
Daisuke_Idoinstall liblcms1-dev12:24
Daisuke_Idothe development files are what it's looking for, not the library itself12:25
hendausPhinnFort,  i read the site and i install axwtv and camora, noone detect my cam, but there is another option but i am not sure how to fix it12:25
mloohmm... most of this stuff is ultimately stored in /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:25
PhinnForthendaus: can you unplug and the replug in your camera12:26
PhinnForthendaus: then run "dmesg | tail"12:26
aaroncampbellDaisuke_Ido: I'm doing that now.  Thanks12:26
Daisuke_Idoaaroncampbell: you're welcome12:26
billytwowillyhi, anyone using ktorrent? Do you know if it respects private torrent tags? I.E if I am downloading from a private tracker can I have dht on and being used by the non-private trackers?12:26
hendausPhinnFort,  unplug? u mean take the usb and then put it12:27
PhinnForthendaus: yes12:27
Daisuke_Idobillytwowilly: to my knowledge it does respect the 'private' flag, at least a sight better than bitcomet ever did12:27
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billytwowillyDaisuke_Ido: thanks.12:27
hendausand where i type dmesg | tail12:27
PhinnForthendaus: in a konsole12:28
BluesKajyes billytwowilly, afaik it's in the configure options in ktorrent12:28
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PhinnForthendaus: k-menu -> system -> konsole12:28
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billytwowillyBluesKaj: it's not there in the ktorrent in feisty. Unless it's hidden somewhere other than the dht settings.12:29
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linuse2hello, ciao12:30
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PhinnFortbillytwowilly: you don't set the private flag, it's set in the .torrent file, afaik12:31
hendausPhinnFort,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14299/12:31
BluesKajbillytwowilly: check the custom IP section in general options12:31
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samandbethI can't play .mp3 with amaroK or Kaffine12:31
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PhinnFort!mp3 | samandbeth12:32
ubotusamandbeth: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:32
PhinnForthendaus: go to kopete -> configure -> devices12:32
DJAnubishallo12:32
mloohallo12:32
hendausPhinnFort,  i have amsn also12:32
billytwowillyyah, I now how the private flag works;) BluesKajall that is in custom ip is "send the tracker a custom ip" bleow that is the dht settings which has  "use dht to get additional peers" which is selected,12:32
PhinnForthendaus: use kopete, i know kopete better12:32
DJAnubisman, it's been like a few days of straight asshole host in florida beach house12:32
DJAnubisoops12:32
DJAnubissorry lang12:33
PhinnFort:P12:33
mloo:D12:33
mlooola12:33
PhinnFortque tal?12:33
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mlootudo bem?12:33
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DJAnubisum, where can I report a bug?12:33
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PhinnFortDJAnubis: bugs.launchpad.net12:33
mlooright here :D12:33
DJAnubis:(12:33
DJAnubisI mean, IRC wise12:33
PhinnFortDJAnubis: try here12:34
hendausPhinnFort,  it shows konica webcam model, and mine is intel12:34
DJAnubisI can't take any time to fill out a form, I'm really tired12:34
MK_Mikehello, i downloaded some updates today and i restarted and now the sound doesnt work any ideas?12:34
PhinnForthendaus: do you have a video feed?12:34
mloopop d question12:34
DJAnubiswell, it's a bug with konqueror12:34
PhinnForthendaus: it's probably a Konica chip in a Intel casing12:34
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PhinnFortDJAnubis: then file it at bugs.kde.org12:34
BluesKaj!codecs | samandbeth12:34
ubotusamandbeth: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:34
PhinnFortDJAnubis: or ask in #kde12:34
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DJAnubisty12:34
PhinnFortDJAnubis: there are plenty of devs in #kde12:34
hendausPhinnFort,  video feed?????? whats that12:35
PhinnForthendaus: do you see the video from the camera in the settings?12:35
PhinnFortor is it just blue12:35
hendausPhinnFort,  no12:35
PhinnForthendaus: what do you see?12:35
hendausPhinnFort,  black color12:35
mlooMK_Mike: what kindof updates?12:36
PhinnForthendaus: try moving your webcam around12:36
PhinnForthendaus: also, go to "options" and turn on automatic stuff12:36
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MK_Mikemloo: i think it was xorg-core or somthing and some kde stuff12:37
PhinnForthendaus: you can read about what a "feed" is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed12:37
PhinnFortunder "telecommunications"12:37
PhinnFort;)12:37
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hendausPhinnFort,  i go to options turn everything on12:38
PhinnForthendaus: i mean automatic brightness and contrast12:38
mlooit's always "dangerous" to update (a) kernels (b) xorg. My experience is that it's easyier to do that when you update the whole system. Well, that's no help to you.. Do you get any error msgs?12:39
hendausPhinnFort,  yes12:39
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MK_Mikemloo: nope lol12:40
PhinnForthendaus: still don't see anything?12:40
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hendausPhinnFort,  yes12:40
hendausPhinnFort,  is it matter to change the usb to another place?12:41
PhinnForthendaus: sorry I can't help you more... I don't know what could be wrong12:41
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PhinnForthendaus: the Linux kernel finds your camera and sets it up12:41
mloohow about trying "play <fyourfile>.wav" at the command line that's pretty basic. See if you get an error there12:42
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PhinnForthendaus: and the applications find it (kopete), but it doesn't seem like they get any video from it12:42
PhinnForthendaus: do you have different inputs?12:42
PhinnFortudner "device" in the kopete configuration12:42
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hendausPhinnFort,  coz on windows i use it and it works fine and also my cell phone nokia 623012:42
ubuntuhi12:42
ubuntui was wondering if any of you know how to acces files on nfts?12:43
hendausPhinnFort,  no12:43
hendausPhinnFort,  just konica webcam12:43
PhinnForthendaus: :S12:43
PhinnForthendaus: this has really got me stumped12:43
jamesarthurubuntu: ntfs-3g12:43
PhinnFort!ntfs-3g | ubuntu12:44
mlooubuntu: reading is easy, just mount it. Writing is -as far as i know- not 100% supported yet12:44
hendausok try to help me about my cellphone nokia 6230 i want to trasfer all the photos12:44
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PhinnFortmloo: with ntfs-3g, yes12:44
PhinnForthendaus: i need sleep soon;)12:44
PhinnFortbut ok12:44
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ubuntuhow do i mount it?12:44
N6REJjhutchins: I figured out how to play a file over the network drive.  Will it automatically add it to the database?12:44
mloowell, where is your ntfs disk?12:44
hendausPhinnFort,  oK12:44
PhinnFort!botsnack12:44
ubotuYum!12:44
N6REJlol12:45
mloois it external? or internal?12:45
davidhey, anyone here fancy joining in the quiz on #ubuntu-trivia12:45
feru!list12:45
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:45
PhinnFort!ntfs-3g | ubuntu12:45
ubotuubuntu: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)12:45
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steve__I know this is a ubuntu channel but would anyone know anything about sam linux?12:46
ubuntuis internal12:46
ubuntuthey are partitions12:46
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steve__I'm trying to use some of the features in Sam Linux in my kubuntu system and I'm a newbie so I could use some help12:47
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BluesKajwhat features?12:48
mlooit is not already in mounted in /media/<somedir> ?12:48
steve__BluesKaj, the have a docking bar called wbar that I like and also when you move windows around the window bends with the movement.12:49
ubuntui am now reading directions12:49
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ubuntubut i don't know how to execute them12:50
BluesKajsteve, beryl eye candy12:50
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Daisuke_IdoBluesKaj: part of it, at least12:50
BluesKaj!beryl12:50
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:50
steve__I thought it had to do with using xfce as the desktop manager which I installed but the windows don't move nor do I have the docking bar12:50
steve__I looked in synaptic package manager and didn't see beryl12:51
Daisuke_Idothat's because beryl isn't part of the main distribution yet12:51
Daisuke_Idonot until 7.0412:52
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steve__ok, so how do I get it12:52
mlooHave you checked if the disk can be accessed via /media/<somedir> ?12:52
mlooI think it's mounted there standard in a dualboot configuration12:52
Daisuke_Ido#ubuntu-effects has a lot of links in their topic for how to get it installed12:52
steve__remember I'm a newbie so if it isn't in the package manager I don't know how to get it12:52
BluesKajsteve_, check this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Unofficial_Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.29_Starter_Guide12:52
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steve__ok,  will12:52
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rysiek|plhi all12:53
tmbgsomeone wanted me for something?12:53
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tmbgit isn't in my scrollback12:54
AxlRoseanyone know where I can find a Rummy game for linux haha12:54
steve__I have tried to install some things by using apt-get but even though I followed the instructions I never could find the programs in any of my application menus12:54
AxlRoseI'm having a heck of time finding one12:54
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ubuntuwhich is the driver that only reads nfts?12:54
Delphi_aka_Finduntfs-3g?12:54
rysiek|plguys, is there a way to get a line or two to get executed *every* time system goes to suspend-to-ram or wakes-up from it? I am not talking about acpi scripts, though, I'd like to do it through the KDE facilities (the lil' battery icon in the systray, etc)12:54
rysiek|plubuntu: only reads? ntfs12:55
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rysiek|plubuntu: ntfs-3g reads and writes, but you can ass the "ro" option so it will only read12:55
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ubuntuoh that's nice12:55
goldangelhello, i installed Kubuntu recently and i would like to burn a new cd but K3B doesn't want to burn any cd. what can I do ? (little precision : i want to burn a ISO file)12:55
rysiek|plubuntu: methinks it's even the better way - ntfs-3g has a better support of the ntfs filesystem12:56
rysiek|plsed "s/of/for/"12:56
mlooI think ntfs is supported standard for reading. I never had any trouble reading USB ntfs disks. Never had to do anything. probably you can mount it, without specifying fstype. It will be autodetected12:57
goldangelhello, i installed Kubuntu recently and i would like to burn a new cd but K3B doesn't want to burn any cd. what can I do ? (little precision : i want to burn a ISO file)12:57
rysiek|plgoldangel: what's the error message?12:57
ubuntuntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows12:57
hendausPhinnFort,  yes i got two programs xgnokii mobile phone and phone manager12:57
ubuntuno my bad12:57
ubuntuthats not the message12:58
goldangelit just says : Problem12:58
rysiek|plubuntu: mount -t ntfs-3g -o ro /dev/somedevice /mount/point12:58
ubuntuCould not mount device.12:58
ubuntuThe reported error was:12:58
ubuntumount: can't find /dev/hdc2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab12:58
ubuntuthat's the error message12:58
mlooI think you have to be root to mount12:59
ubuntui don't even know how to open terminal XD12:59
rysiek|plubuntu: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o ro /dev/hdc2 /some/mountpoint12:59
steve__hey guys, I went to the link you mentioned and found where it shows how to install beryl but there are several versions. How do I know which one to use?01:00
Delphiubuntu: then I think you will have som trouble using ntfs-3g. As far as I recall, it doesn't have any graphicall interface...01:00
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ubuntuwell. thank you all01:03
mlooyou have access?01:04
ubuntuno01:04
mlooo :s01:04
ubuntunot yet01:04
ubuntui have to open terminal01:04
ubuntuand i don't know where is it01:04
mlooin the "start menu" under system, click on "console"01:04
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mlooKonsole terminal program01:05
ubuntuyou're right ^_^01:05
ubuntuthanks01:05
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rysiek|plsteve__: join #ubuntu-effects01:06
mloothen, copy rysiek|pl's command01:06
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mloothis one: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o ro /dev/hdc2 /some/mountpoint01:06
snikkerhow can i cange my time zone settings? (CEST to GTM or UTC)01:06
mloothen, you can access your disk with konqueror or firefox or whatever...01:07
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junocdxwhy wont adept start anymore?01:07
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rysiek|plsnikker: right-click on the clock on the panel01:08
rysiek|plsnikker: and follow your nose ;)01:08
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premier_hello, Im planning a new computer and I want to build it around an Amd64 dual-core.  Does anybody have any suggestions as to which AMD to get?01:09
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ubuntuby the moment there is one amd model +600001:09
ubuntuis the newest and is very cheap for it's specs01:10
snikkerrysiek|pl: yes i know, but in this way it change also bios time (-2 hours), and when i restart in windoze, i've got wrong time01:10
mloo=having a very nive 12 yrs old Balvenie whiskey01:10
ubuntupremier_: [18:09]  <ubuntu> by the moment there is one amd model +6000 [18:09]  <ubuntu> is the newest and is very cheap for it's specs01:10
mloonive/nice01:10
rysiek|plsnikker: ahh... well, frankly, I don't know... it always worked for me01:10
snikkerrysiek|pl: np thanks01:11
Daisuke_Idopremier_: you looking to put together a powerhouse or a standard capable machine?01:11
tmbgis there some sort of new kde release/massive-update? adept-updater is downloading like 50 updates and it seems like they're all for kde apps.01:11
mloopremier: I have a 64bits machine. My experience is that a lot of software is still only available, or better under 32bits01:11
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mloofor instance: wengophone, skype...01:12
Daisuke_Idomloo: amd doesn't make 32 bit processors anymore though :)01:12
junocdxsince I did the update adept wont start anymore =(01:12
Daisuke_Idoand you can run the 32 bit version of any os just fine on an amd 6401:12
rysiek|plmloo, premier_: actually my friend (a total n00b!) managed to get flash, java, skype and wine to work on amd64 with 64bit system01:12
rysiek|plkubuntu, off course ;)01:12
premier_Daisuke_Ido: not sure, but I guess I have a "just works" attitude... I'd like a nice fast one01:13
ypsila:-D01:13
Daisuke_Idowell i'd recommend a mid-range X201:13
Daisuke_Ido44-460001:13
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premier_cool.  What about a graphics card?  Nvidia, I assume?01:13
Daisuke_Idodefinitely nvidia01:13
mlooI installed all te lib32 stuff, and put a lot of hours trying to solve bugs. Wengophone and skype just don't work with my hardware under linux01:13
Daisuke_Idothat's a no-brainer01:13
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Daisuke_Idomloo: so install the 32 bit version of kubuntu and save yourself the headache01:14
ramiro82cual es el canal en espaol?01:14
Daisuke_Ido!es | ramiro8201:14
uboturamiro82: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:14
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ramiro82gracias puos01:14
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mlooIf I would choose again, I would go for 32bit01:15
tmbgI'm running amd64. I have flash & java working. wine works too.01:15
tmbgflash I had to set up a 32 bit firefox for though.01:15
Daisuke_Idomloo: what's stopping you?01:15
mlooI got flash working with opera01:15
tmbgmloo, you could set up a 32 bit chroot to run -any- 32 bit app in.01:15
tmbgbut yes it's easier to use 32 bit on 64.01:15
mlooDaisuke_Ido: dineros01:15
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Daisuke_Idomloo: huh?  linux is free.01:15
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tmbgthe only big reason to move to amd64 OS is for huge memory.01:15
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Daisuke_Idothe 32-bit version works fine on a 64 bit amd processor01:16
Daisuke_Idorequires no money01:16
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peklohello01:16
mloowell, it's not the $ actually. my hardware works fine. why buy new?01:16
Daisuke_Ido>_<01:16
Daisuke_Idoare you paying attention?  seriously01:16
Daisuke_Idoyou don't need new hardware01:16
premier_wait, Im a little uneducated here... So if Im working on a amd64, what apps require 32 bit and how do I get them to work?01:16
premier_flash and java, I assume?01:17
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Daisuke_Idojust because you have a 64 bit processor does NOT mean you have to use a 64 bit OS01:17
wolferinereally ? :)01:17
junocdxI'm running 32bit kubuntu on an AMD6401:17
Daisuke_Idojunocdx: same here01:17
delphiMy Opera browser was broken today, after an upgrade to kubuntu 7.04 yesterday. Does anyone know if this is a known problem or if it's just me?01:17
Daisuke_Idoruns just dandy :)01:17
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junocdxhavn't had a problem besides I dont know what the hell I'm doing01:17
chuck_txDoes anyone have any idea why my Realtek 8135 Wireless NIC won't associate in Kubuntu?  It works in Ubuntu.01:18
Daisuke_Idojunocdx: that comes with time :)01:18
premier_whats the point of running a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit processor?  Why not just get a 32 bit processor?01:18
mlooI just told you: skype and wengophone do not work on my acer aspire5020 AMD64/ATIX700. 32bits version does not connect, but gives sound&video. the 64bit version crashes on connect. It's a known problem, check out the WengoWiki01:18
junocdxbigger pipes...01:18
Daisuke_Idopremier_: because AMD makes 64 bt processors01:19
premier_lol01:19
Daisuke_Idoi don't think they actyally MAKE 32 bit processors anymore.01:19
davidIntel Core 2 Duos are 64 bit too01:19
delphiwith a 64bit processor you have the option to use 64bit OS, with a 32bit procesor you don't...01:19
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Daisuke_Idothe option, yes01:19
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junocdxdoesnt a 64bit process 32bit information faster?  bigger pipes and such?01:19
Daisuke_Idobut unless you have +4gb ram, why bother, there's no real improvement01:19
premier_What if I want a 64 bit OS?01:20
Daisuke_Idothen prepare for headaches01:20
tmbgpremier_, a 64 bit processor often times can run more 32 bit code at one time than the older 32 bit processors.01:21
tmbgsome of them can sort of 'split' their pipelines into a pair of 32 bit execution units01:21
mloowho the needs 64bit integers anyway? what's the point of making every pointer and integer 64 bits?01:22
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chuck_tx64 bit CLI works pretty good01:23
gomensterisn't also about increased numbers of instructions?01:23
chuck_txIt becomes a pain when you want to do interactive stuff with it01:23
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junocdxwhat is "OpenGLOverlay"?01:24
bronze_1_9a graphics call01:24
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mlooand anyway: hardware is badly supported for 32 linux. even worse for 64bits01:24
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gomensterbronze*01:25
bronze_1_9gomenster: it was only a small handful.. no one will missi t...01:25
mloobadly by the producers i mean. the comunity does amazing work01:25
premier_can anyone recomend a nvidia to go with my new computer?01:26
gomenstersomething that doesn't have turbocache01:26
junocdxI'll sell you an ati card01:26
tmbghardware support? what on earth. the only issues I've run into running 64 bit was application software.01:26
junocdx=D01:26
tmbgshit like flash.01:26
rysiek|plguys, anybody managed to get suspend-to-ram (the S3 power state) with a radeon card (esp. Mobility 7000) working? I need to find a way to tell the power manager to run a command just before going to sleep and just after waking up01:26
bronze_1_964 bit chips can have wider (and therefore faster) internal pathways, potentially increasing performance.01:26
bronze_1_9 As always the real bottle neck on most systems is usually the hard drive.01:26
bronze_1_9but when using large amounts of RAM on systems doing things like protien folding, the CPU speed becomes paramount and a 64 bit cpu comes into its own.01:27
premier_rysiek|pl: I have had so much trouble with sleep and hibernate on a X1400 mobility, I just gave up01:27
mlooal your hardware was supported off-the-shelf by ubuntu? 3D-accelleration, wireless? congrats01:27
bronze_1_9forr desktops, they are mostly wasted., but then , so are 32 bit cpu's01:27
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rysiek|plpremier_: I have managed to overcome the xorg power management problem, now fighting to make sure radeontool gets called to handle the backlight01:28
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rysiek|plpremier_: I think I might succeed ;)01:28
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junocdxIs it still cheaper to build a computer than to purchase a prebuilt system?  It seems like there are a lot of good deals going around.01:31
gomensterjuno: depends on what you want01:31
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mloojunocdx: depends waht you want to do with it... if you want to do superduper climate simulations: build your own. otherwise, a deal is pretty good01:33
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junocdxi dont know if I'm willing to let myself buy a prebuilt system though. hurts my pride =\01:34
mloo <junocdx>: well, if you  just chat, play mp3 and browse the net: swallow your pride (in the words of a overestimated band from the 80's)01:36
mehthere are so many different encrypted filesystem options around, anyone have recommendations as to which is generally the best?01:36
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premier_Yeah, I having a lot of trouble related to screensavers, locking the screen, hibernating, rebooting, sleeping, turning off the screen, and so on.01:39
premier_For example, sometimes when I lock the screen, I will not get a screen saver, so01:40
premier_the desktop is still visible, but you can't interact with it without unlocking the screen01:40
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premier_also, the monitor sometimes doesn't turn off when I close my laptop, even though usually it'll make a sound when I close the lid, so I know its recognizing the lid being closed01:41
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premier_thats just the begining.01:42
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jonathan__help01:42
jonathan__how do i change my monitor settings to make them smaller???01:42
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_spazjonathan__: go into system settings, then display01:43
mlooas long as hardware producers do not support linux, or at least release protocols to comunicate with their chips, this will not stop01:43
jonathan__tried that...it thinks i have a widescreen and wont change01:43
mloothat was directed to premier btw01:43
premier_since Im building my own computer, I can try to rectify all this, right?01:43
premier_btw, whats the most informative and most complete compatibility list?  the ubuntu list and the linuxcompatibility.org lists are a little disappointing01:44
jonathan__i have a plugnplay monitor..in the config box it thiks its a widescreen01:44
mloowell, you can try to google all the hardware, HCL's and stuff. But there still may be problems occuring as a result of combinations...01:45
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mloopremier: just buy the hardware you want. I always did, and I *mostly* could solve any problems, just by googling through forums01:46
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jonathan__it wont accept the standard 4:3 setting01:47
jonathan__there is an "X" through the monitor shown01:47
mlooas long as you don't buy anything too new (say less than 3 months old) and not too exclusive (say, a sun) you can get a very very very nice linux machine01:48
jonathan__the slider is all the way to the left01:48
jonathan__well, thanks anyway...01:48
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solemnwarningDoes kubuntu support WPA/WPA2?01:49
makuseruhi, i was intalling kububtu on a laptop frmo the alternate insatall disk, and during install it got hung at "choose and install software" so i told it to skip and now when i boot up i just get a terminal and startx does nothing, what can i do to fix this?01:49
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chemicalvampwhat vmware do i need for multiple OS? workstation?01:50
mloomakusuru: try typing "startx"01:51
mlooah... sory01:51
mlooreinstall I guess01:51
jack__hi i have the problem when i am idle xorg goes up to 100%cpu load01:52
_spazOo01:53
_spazwhat processor do you use jack__?01:53
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premier_mloo, what do you think about two hard drived mirrored (raid 1 i think) 80GB each to hold my OSes, and then a 500 GB for personal data, with space for a fourth hard drive?01:56
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mloopremier: well, that sounds pretty damn cool to me!01:57
mlooyou can never have to much backup01:57
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premier_mloo, my dell E1705, which ran me $2500, sucks.  I would say as a windows computer its worth less than $2000, and as a linux compy, less than $1200.  So, I want to get a computer that will work with linux and just rocks in general01:59
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kpbiss! =)02:01
kpbissDJAnubis  =)02:01
kpbissHi everybody =)02:01
jack___spaz: centrino core duo02:01
kpbissomg... centrino?02:01
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_spazjack__: check the process table for the process that's taking up all that CPU time02:02
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jack___spaz: thats xorg, what do you mean by process table?02:02
mloopremier: $2500 is a lot of money man... what kindof apps are you running?02:03
kpbiss66 =)02:03
_spazi mean the list of processes running in the system jack__02:03
mlooit's not games, since you obviously use linux02:03
meh!dm-crypt02:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dm-crypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:03
meh!cryptfs02:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cryptfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:04
jack___spaz do you mean top?where do i see that?02:04
_spazjack__: h/o, brb02:04
mlooand in linux, you can expect small things like laptop hybernating not working02:04
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premier_mloo: it was kinda a waste.  You could get a toshiba for a fraction of the cost, and it will be much better.02:04
premier_mloo: I'm a college student, so i could take up games.  I still have windows but I never use it (dual boot).  I'll probably put windows on my new computer, at least if I can get XP for freeness.02:05
rysiek|plmeh: what are you looking for?02:06
mlooprobalby true. I mean, you can do really heavy calculations with a laptop nowadays whic would  be a supercomputer a few years ago. My point is that hardware increases in speed but the functionalty (what do you actually do with your pc?) stays the same02:07
rysiek|plmeh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowtoEdgy?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=EncryptedFilesystem&titlesearch=Tytu%82y02:07
mehrysiek|pl: a nice easy to implement secure crypto fs02:07
mehrysiek|pl: thanks :)02:07
mehhm, that page brings up an error02:08
rysiek|plmeh: search on help.ubuntu.com/community/ for EncryptedFilesystem :)02:08
mehkk02:08
mloopremier: well, I never play any computer games, so I cannot advise you on that. How about a PSIII? :D02:09
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makuseruwhat just happened to #ubuntu?02:17
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billytwowillyhey, is there any way to get ktorrent to automagically adjust upload speed like azureus does?02:18
mloook girls and boys. Sgt. mloo signing off. bu-byyyeee02:18
_spazthere are no girls on the internet mloo :p02:18
_spaz:/02:18
makuseruhi, i was intalling kububtu on a laptop frmo the alternate insatall disk, and during install it got hung at "choose and install software" so i told it to skip and now when i boot up i just get a terminal and startx does nothing, what can i do to fix this?02:19
jhutchinsmakuseru: Choose and install software.02:21
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makuseruwhat software do i need for a gui? since when i startx nothing happens02:22
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chemicalvampis vmware free?02:22
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jhutchinsmakuseru: It's hard to say what you actually got installed, but I'd probably go with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:23
makuserui tried that and iget these errors02:23
jhutchinsmakuseru: You could just get xorg-x11, which would give you a basic gui.02:23
makuseruand it reads my sources.list from the cd02:23
makuserunot from the real cources.lsit02:23
jhutchins!pastebin | makuseru02:23
ubotumakuseru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:23
tmbgchemicalvamp, part of it is. the vmware player I think was the free part.02:23
makuseruwhy are you showing me pastebin?02:24
jhutchinsmakuseru: If you need to paste the errors.  You probably want to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list02:24
chemicalvamptmbg i want a free windows virtualizer02:24
jhutchinschemicalvamp: xen02:24
rysiek|plchemicalvamp: QEmu02:24
makuseruim starting the lappy up now, its just a one sentence error so no need for pastebin02:25
chemicalvampwhats better?02:25
jhutchinschemicalvamp: virtualbox02:25
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rysiek|plchemicalvamp: you'll have to check for yourself02:25
rysiek|plchemicalvamp: are you going to run it UNDER windows, or windows UNDER it?02:25
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chemicalvampi run kubuntu02:25
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rysiek|plchemicalvamp: what exactly do you need virtualization? because if you just need to run some windows apps, you coulkd use wine02:26
makuserujhutchins: i get a bunch of "no such file or directory"02:26
chemicalvamppretty much just checing it out02:27
_spazbrb02:27
chemicalvampi seen a screenshot of somebody that had like a cube on screen, one side was linux, and another was windows02:27
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jhutchinsmakuseru: Argh.  Incomplete install.02:28
makuseruhow can i fix it?02:28
jhutchinsmakuseru: Can you get apt to run?02:28
makuseruyes02:28
jhutchinssudo apt-get -f install might help.02:28
chemicalvamprysiek|pl o you know what emulator that would be?02:28
rysiek|plchemicalvamp: QEmu, xen and such are great if - for some reason - you need the full system; wine is the way if you just need to run a windows app under linux02:29
makuserujhutchins: gotta unplug this comp form the net to try, back ina dew02:29
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rysiek|plchemicalvamp: it might have been any - QEmu, xen, virtualbox, vmware, whatever02:29
jhutchinschemicalvamp: That's probably a virtual machine running with beryl.02:29
jhutchinschemicalvamp: You can probably melt lead with the heat it gives off.02:30
tmbgyou can install xp under bochs.02:30
tmbgcould have been tons of shit. who knows02:30
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Flare183how do you mount a mp3 device02:30
jhutchinstmbg: is bochs another virtualizer?02:30
rysiek|plFlare183: you mean like an mp3 player? just plug it in02:31
chemicalvampjhutchins nah it was kubuntu and windows vista runing in the svreenshot i saw02:31
tmbgbochs is an emulator. slow fullblown virtual machine.02:31
Flare183yeah but when i do it does nothing02:31
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bomberhey guys02:31
jhutchinschemicalvamp: That's what I'm saying.02:31
Flare183amaroK does eve do anything02:31
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rysiek|plFlare183: right-click on the desktop and Refresh02:31
ZehavaIs there a single command I can put into a terminal to remove all/most of gnome and it's packages?02:31
tmbgFlare183, type 'mount' in a CLI like konsole and see if there are any new drives02:31
tmbgyeah or that02:31
jhutchinschemicalvamp: So we qemu, xen, virtualbox, and bochs so far.02:31
maxesghostHello. In Konsole, how to I use the "cd" command to change into a directory with spaces in the directory name?02:32
bomberi updated kde yesterday and now my system boots to the kdm instead of to console02:32
rysiek|pljhutchins: don't forget KVM and dosbox! ;)02:32
tmbgdunno if you can do vista in bochs. it would be PAINFUL if you could do it though02:32
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jhutchinsZehava: apt-get --purge autoremove ubuntu-desktop might do it.02:32
Flare183i don't know which one is the MP3 Player?02:33
rysiek|pltmbg: you should rather use something that can run native CPU instructions - like QEmu with kqemu module or Xen02:33
tmbgmaxesghost, try "like\ this" ?02:33
jhutchinstmbg: Yeah, like I said that machine must have a kilowatt powersupply.02:33
Zehavajhutchins alrighty, I'll give that a shot, if not I'll use synaptic and pick and choose individually, but that'll be a pain.02:33
tmbgrysiek|pl, yeah obviously.02:33
tmbgjust saying it's hard to know what virtualizer/emulator/whatever he saw.02:33
jhutchinsZehava: Try autoremove with something high-level like gnome or evolution too.02:34
Zehavaso what? apt-get --purge autoremove gnome-desktop02:34
Flare183i don't know which one is the MP3 Player.02:34
maxesghostDo I need to put quotes around it like in Windows dos box?02:34
jhutchinstmbg: Yeah, for all we know it was just a  screenshot in kuickshow, not actual vista.02:34
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jhutchinsFlare183: Don't you suppose it's the last thing that got mounted?02:35
Flare183yes02:35
Flare183so..02:35
tmbgmaxesghost, shouldn't have to.02:35
jhutchinsmaxesghost: Either quote it or escape the spaces by putting a "\" before each one.02:35
maxesghostit tells me "no such file or directory"02:36
jhutchinsmaxesghost: Use tab for autocomplete.02:36
maxesghostok02:36
jhutchinsThat will also show you the correct format.02:36
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tmbgFlare183, dmesg will show you at the end stuff that recently mounted I believe. maybe I'm confusing os's though02:37
maxesghostAh. Thanks! I used the TAB key, and while it used a '\' character for the spaces, it required a '/' character trailing the directory name.02:37
jhutchinstmbg: Should work, or /var/log/messages02:37
rysiek|pltmbg: not mounted, but connected and discovered, yeah02:37
maxesghostThanks so much. I never would have figured that out on my own.02:37
Zehavajhutchins it's telling me autoremove is an invalid oporation02:38
jhutchinsmaxesghost:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html02:38
jhutchinsZehava: apt-get autoremove packagename - straight from the apt-get howto.02:38
rysiek|plgtg, cu all02:38
tmbgwell, the dmesg could get him in the ballpark. compare that with mount, and see if the newly discovered mp3 player drive is mounted anywhere02:38
Zehavajhutchins thanks02:39
jhutchinsZehava: Could be they've removed it.02:39
phyerbossI know I been in here several times for this same issue but there has GOT to be someone with a method that works to get flash & java working in konquror & firefox=\02:39
jhutchins!flash | phyerboss02:39
ubotuphyerboss: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:39
ubotuFlash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash02:39
Zehavajhutchins musthave removed or something.  apt-get autoremove gnome-destkop.   and I got invalid opperation autoremove02:40
maxesghostHas anyone been succesful in using a Creative Labs Video Blaster Webcam Go under Kubuntu? The newst Linux kernel has a driver for the OVcam chip and places an entry /dev/video0 , but now what?02:40
jhutchins!java | phyerboss02:40
ubotuphyerboss: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.02:40
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maxesghostDigiKam doesn't have any entry for it. And using "mounted camera" doesn't work even though I point it to that file.02:40
jhutchinsZehava: For a macro package like that, maybe just remove.  Also, aptitude(?) is supposed to be better at macro packages, I think.02:41
phyerbossalright...let me have a go at these02:41
jhutchinsfdoving: Ping?02:41
ZehavaI'm a complete newb to linux, so I"m not exactly sure what aptitude is...I'll do some more looking around.  I do appriciate the help.02:41
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jhutchins!aptitude | Zehava02:43
ubotuZehava: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide02:43
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jhutchinsZehava: Mind you, I can do amazing things with RPM, but I'm just learning about apt.02:44
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Zehavajhutchins thanks, I don't even know what rpm is! lol02:45
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jhutchinsZehava: rpm is RedHat Package Manager, used by the other major branch of linux.02:46
Zehavajhutchins I tried to install redhat on my computers but for some reason it woulnd't work.  either way, is aptitude a command I use in terminal oris it an X thing I can open?02:47
jhutchinsZehava: as above, "terminal-based"02:48
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jhutchinsZehava: The overhead of the GUI shells for most package managers seems to cause all of them problems.02:49
cpk1yeah adept is the devil02:49
meh!nvidia-glx-legacy02:49
Zehavajhutchins well, I'm very new to linux for the most part.  I can do very simple things, but coming from a winblo's world...X is the way I try and do most things, but I'm learning more and more terminal stuff as I go.02:50
mehhm02:50
Zehavajhutchins  I found where the commands are on the help page now, I'm playin with it.  thanks again forthe advice.02:50
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cpk1Zehava: aptitude is very easy and intuitive to use02:50
mehnvidia-glx-legacy doesnt seem to be in the repo?02:51
Zehavacpkl Cool, I"m reading on it and trying to figure it out.  why do links in here open up firefox instead of konqerer?02:51
mehi can see nvidia-glx, but not the legacy package. has it been taken out?02:51
cpk1"here" I use konversation and it opens up konq for me02:52
jhutchinsZehava: Usually it's something configurable in your irc client.02:52
Zehavacpkl I'll have to try that, I'm on xchat02:52
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jhutchinsZehava: If you have xchat, it defaults to Firefox.  Konversation or Kopete will default to konq.02:52
cpk1also for aptitude all you really need to know is aptitude install aptitude remove aptitude update aptitude upgrade and aptitude dist-upgrade02:53
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Zehavajhutchins thanks.  I"m digging through the settings and preferences now to see if I can change it.02:54
Daisuke_Idoso...  most of what you need to know for apt-get02:54
cpk1oh and aptitude search02:54
Zehavacpk1 thanks, I'll give that apptitude remove a try here in just a moment02:54
cpk1thats to remove a package btw02:54
cpk1purge will completely nuke the package02:55
Zehavacpk1 what's the diff between remove and purge though?02:55
Zehavacpk1 does remove only remove it's use and leave the files02:55
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cpk1remove might not get rid of all the configuration files purge will destroy any trace of the package02:55
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Zehavacpk1 alright.  how would purge be used? just aptitude purge "package"?02:56
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cpk1yup02:56
Zehavacpk1 thanks02:56
Zehavahow do I find out how much free disk space I have on my HD?02:57
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cpk1df -h02:57
phyerbossseriously, this issue regarding flash and java is not working out right! If ANYONE has an idea what to do please can you help me! NO MORE WEB LINKS!02:57
phyerbossthose guides have been followed through and through and are not doing anything02:57
Zehavacpk1 thanks02:57
cpk1whats the problem phyerboss?02:58
zerothishelp! i tried to uninstall xeyes and alot of packages got uninstalled. including adept. synaptics doesn't show any packages. did i permenently destroy things or is this an easy fix?02:58
cpk1zerothis: if you still have apt you can just reinstall stuff using aptitude or apt-get02:59
phyerbosswell, i been having an issue getting java and flash to properly install and run for konquror and firefox03:00
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zerothistrying apt-get03:01
phyerbossjava is running on firefox actually, just not konquror but neither will run flash03:01
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phyerbossthis is getting a bit frustrating as this is my 4th reinstall and out of all the other distros i tried if its not 1 thing its another...and in kubuntu's case its getting friggin flash and java to work!03:02
phyerbosswhere as other distros, wham bam it was up !03:02
meh!repositorys03:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:02
phyerbosssorry if im coming of harsh...its just really killing me now03:02
tmbgare you using amd64 or just regular x86?03:02
meh!multiverse03:02
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:03
tmbgmethinks you meant...03:03
tmbg!repositories03:03
phyerbossand i am sick of being giving link after link to steps that either render my machine buggy or just dont work03:03
tmbgmaybe not. maybe it's singular. it's in there somewhere.03:03
tmbg!repository03:03
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:03
tmbgphyerboss, are you using x86 or amd64?03:04
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phyerbossx8603:04
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tmbgif you're using regular 32 bit linux, there are packages that will do the footwork for you03:04
phyerbossedgy03:04
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tmbgthey're in multiverse03:04
phyerbosswhat are they?03:05
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tmbgI recommend setting up synaptic or whatever and just point and clicking your way into having working flash. should work for java too but you might have to click on some license banners or whatever03:05
phyerbossyeah, had to use konsole for java as the agreement pops up in adept and locks it up03:05
tmbgit works in synaptic.03:06
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phyerbossquestion: if i get synaptic, will i have to remove adept?03:06
Jisaono03:06
zerothisphyerboss: i use both03:06
phyerbossand neither clashes withthe other?03:07
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tmbgphyerboss, you just can't run them both simultaneously.03:07
tmbgthey both require a lock on the database. run one, or the other, at any point in time. they can both be installed though no problem.03:07
phyerbossok, i'll nab that...its by far the only thing i hav'nt tried thus far03:08
zerothisall package managers lock the database don't they? apt, dpkg, synaptics, adept03:09
tmbgsometimes there's a bit of fiddliness with the license banners you have to click navigate in synaptic. I think you had to tab around to get to the yes/no prompts or something like that. in general it's all worked rather well for me though.03:09
tmbgzerothis, yes, all.03:09
zerothisthey will still browse pakages though. I often use the search tools in one and install with another03:10
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tmbgif you run one as a user and the other as root that will work.03:10
tmbgthe tools always try to obtain lock when run as root in my experience.03:11
zerothisexactly, a nice friendly gui for finding and reading all about the package, then sudo apt-get to see all the gory details of the actuall install03:12
JisaoIs there a way to upgrade to feisty?03:14
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zerothisadept-updater has been telling me about feisty ever time I run it. "sudo adept_updater"03:16
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zerothisI'm waiting for the official word that it is ready instead of 'development version'03:17
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mehbrb03:21
donHow about that, runnin Konversation automatically puts you in this room!  Nice03:21
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phyerbosshey tmbg, that did'nt work either03:22
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zerothisthanks for the info. now my damage is repaired, is there a way to remove just xeyes? it seems to be part of xbase-clients.03:22
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tmbgwhat do you mean by didn't work?03:23
tmbgyou're not being very specific.03:23
tmbgwhat exactly did you do, and what were the results?03:23
livingdaylighthi03:23
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livingdaylightCan i ask why you guys prefer kubuntu over ubuntu?03:23
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livingdaylighti have not made my mind up which is better? nicer?03:23
phyerbossas you suggested, i installed synaptic and tried to install flash and java with it03:24
makuserujhutchins: none of it worked03:24
phyerbosswhen i said no good: i mean its the same results...neither browser will run any flash and konquror still wont run java03:24
phyerbossits as if nothing was even installed03:25
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tmbgphyerboss, load up firefox and throw in about:plugins in the address bar03:25
tmbgsee what it says about your installed plugins03:26
zerothisI got jave working in firefox throught the java.com website. had to spoof my user agent and poke arround a bit but i eventually got it03:27
phyerbosslots of java files. All showing enabled. I have a bunch of shockwave files saying enabled as well03:27
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tmbghave you tried the flash & java test sites?03:29
tmbghttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ and http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml ?03:30
phyerbossyeah, for flash i go to youtube, for java i go to java.com03:30
makuseruhi, im trying to install kubuntu on my laptop form the "alterate install disk" and i while it was installing it skipped the "choose and install software" part so when it finished i have basically nothing installed, not even a giu, how can i fix this?03:30
tmbgtry the adobe site.03:30
tmbgsometimes certain flash stuff works but videos won't and you may be able to use it to figure out why03:30
livingdaylightis ubuntu easier than kubuntu?03:31
livingdaylighti am trying to make a choice between ubuntu or kubuntu03:32
livingdaylightany suggestions?03:32
livingdaylightis one better or nicer?03:32
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phyerbossboth browsers act as if they are TRYING to install the missing plugins but keep failing03:32
phyerbossas for java, it works for Firefox just fine03:32
phyerbossjust not konquror03:32
makuserulivingdaylight: same dist, just looks a little diffrent, if you like gnome use ubuntu if you like kde use kubuntu03:33
epic_I need help installing my video card on a fresh installation. GeCube 9600XT03:33
livingdaylightmakuseru: is that all?03:33
epic_can anyone help me?03:33
makuseruyes03:33
makuseruthats the only diffreence03:33
phyerbosstmbg: nothing is coming up03:34
livingdaylighti don't know what kde 3.6 looks like03:34
livingdaylightmakuseru: you prefer kde?03:34
makuseruyup03:34
epic_can someone please help me set up my Video card. Ati Radeon 9600XT03:34
livingdaylightmakuseru: why :s ?03:35
tmbgMIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled03:35
tmbgapplication/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes03:35
tmbgphyerboss, you get something like ^ that when you go to about:plugins?03:35
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makuserulivingdaylight: to me i think it looks nicer, and you can configure it mroe than gnome (how you want it to look)03:35
livingdaylighto i c03:36
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epic_can someone please help me set up my Video card. Ati Radeon 9600XT03:36
makuseruepic_: get flgrx03:36
chemicalvampive never tried gnome, i could get it from adept couldnt i?03:36
chemicalvamp!ati03:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:36
nosrednaekimummm  thats "fglrx"03:36
epic_thanks03:36
makuserunosrednaekim: my mistake03:37
chemicalvampnp, its easy to follow03:37
makuserumy ATI is too old to use it03:37
phyerbossyeah, i have that03:37
phyerbossfor firefox03:37
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phyerbosskonquror it just says its installed(along with a whole lot of other ones*)03:38
phyerbossbut either way, i have that03:38
aaroncampbellI'm trying to build a package for my printer (konica Minolta Magicolor 2430DL), and this is the output: http://paste-bin.com/11365 which is riddled with errors...can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?03:39
epic_ok.. So what is the repos for fglrx?03:39
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epic_sorry, this is my first install of kubuntu..03:39
phyerbossdont feel bad epic_, you're not alone =\03:40
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phyerbosstmbg?03:41
tmbgI'm sort of stumped. it sounds like it should all work if it sees those plugins.03:42
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phyerbossit worked before the reinstallation...well, flash in firefox...just dont know what else to do03:44
tmbgreinstallation?03:44
phyerbossyeah, i could'nt remove a bunch of broken packages...compiz being 1 of them03:45
phyerbossso i decided to do a clean install since i never did get too far with setting everything up03:45
phyerbossto my liking03:45
tmbgcompletely wiped & restarted?03:46
phyerbosswell, as it was argued...technically compiz was not broke, but either way i could'nt get rid of it03:46
phyerbossyes03:46
phyerbosscomplete wipe03:46
makuseruhi, im trying to install kubuntu on my laptop form the "alterate install disk" and i while it was installing it skipped the "choose and install software" part so when it finished i have basically nothing installed, not even a gui, how can i fix this?03:46
tmbgodd. I see no reason why the package you got from synaptic shouldn't work.03:46
tmbgwhat was the package name you installed?03:47
phyerbossthere was a good bit of java and flash packages i nabbed in hopes thst something should do it03:47
samandbethAnyone here use smm++ Mud client?03:48
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makuseruwhere is the xorg log locared?03:48
makuserulocated*03:49
tmbgyou may have some sort of odd conflict then.03:49
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wsjuniorwhat do i need to make audio preview to work inside konqueror? i enabled it but i cant hear anything03:50
samandbethIt says It uses Makefiles for Installation, and to execute Make and Make Install and thats it. But I get an unknown command error03:50
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artabrahao where is the location of C headers files?03:51
phyerbosswhat files/libs you have installed wheras its working for you?03:51
phyerbosswhereas*03:51
sonoftheclayrsamandbeth: have you installed the build-essential package?03:51
premier_does anyone know about TV Tuners and linux, esp, which cards tend to be the most compatable and highest quality?03:52
Daisuke_Idoif you're executing Make, it won't work03:52
Daisuke_Idotry make03:52
Daisuke_Idocase sensitivity03:52
samandbethtried both caps and non, tried to sudo the command03:52
samandbethbuild package....03:53
Daisuke_Idothen sonoftheclayr probably has it03:53
samandbethprobably not03:53
Daisuke_Idobuild-essential :)03:53
samandbethyeah but its late and i didnt want to type all that ;)03:53
samandbethadept?03:53
LeeJunFan!build03:54
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:54
JisaoAnybody knows what a /dev/wacom is?03:54
LeeJunFanJisao: it's a tablet03:54
LeeJunFanJisao: err it's the device node for the tablet.03:55
JisaoIf I don't have any on my computer, why is it appearing in the logs?03:55
MinatakuSupposedly some touchpad devices are Wacom-based03:55
mrignsits in the xorg.conf03:56
MinatakuSo they're enabled in the default xorg.conf03:56
MinatakuFeel free to go in and disable them if you're confident enough03:56
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LeeJunFanJisao: yeah, they are just warnings - not errors, no harm.03:56
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MinatakuAlternately compile your own kernel with wacom support, which should give you a /dev/wacom and will also eliminate the messages03:57
MinatakuAlternately again, ignore them03:57
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MinatakuThey're just cruft in the log03:57
JisaoWell, I am looking for the reason my computer crashes.  The screens looks like a TV with large  diagonal lines in it, and the keyboard and mouse don't respond anymore.03:59
JisaoAs I like Kubuntu, I would like to find out why this happens.03:59
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makuseruis there anyway to install kubuntu over a network instead of from a CD?03:59
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chemicalvamplol.. i like this.. "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check...04:00
epic_I have been following the install instructions for my ATI drivers, but I can't get anything to work. HELP PLS!04:00
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surgywhats the name of the module that gives k3b mp3 support? i thought it was k3b-mp3 but the command "sudo apt-cache search k3b-mp3" yeilds no results04:01
surgyepic_: be more spicific and i can see what i can do04:01
chemicalvampepic_ are you not getting the right output when you do the glfxinfo command04:01
surgysoecific*04:01
surgyspecific*04:01
epic_I can't get glfx to install.04:02
chemicalvampwell that narrows it down 0.<04:02
surgyepic_: do you have the restricted module/s installed?04:02
epic_can't find the package04:02
epic_I don't think so...04:02
surgyand is it the right restricted module for you specific kernal type?04:02
surgythats your problem04:02
sonoftheclayrsurgy: we had this the other day, i think it might've been libk3bmp304:03
zerothisjisao, i have the same thing happen about one a week. ussuall when I run a full screen opengl game. sometime a windows GL game will freeze up the system also. in these cases only the game window shows the odd pattern. I'm using propriatary nvidia drivers on a customised D900K04:03
surgygo back to the tut and read up on the restricted modules part04:03
epic_honestly, I have no idea. I just installed kubuntu and really have no idea what to do...04:03
surgysonoftheclayr: thnx04:03
surgy!ati | epic_04:03
ubotuepic_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:03
surgyepic_: read that, and pay attention to detail.04:03
sonoftheclayrsurgy: sorry, it was libk3b2-mp304:04
epic_ok, thank you04:04
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surgyepic_: np04:04
surgysonoftheclayr: that module isnt in the repos eather04:04
sonoftheclayrsurgy: do you have the universe repo enabled?04:05
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JisaoI am running the proprietary nvidia drivers on a Geforce 6150 chip (all in one mobo).  I don't get those crashed in Debian testing.  I wonder why.04:05
surgysonoftheclayr: i have every repo enabled :)04:05
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wsjuniorsurgy: libk3b2-mp304:05
surgywsjunior: thnx04:05
jhutchins!mp3 | surgy04:07
ubotusurgy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:07
acehi all04:08
jhutchinsThere's also libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs.04:08
acei moved something from a backup to my work area, but it says access denied04:08
zerothisah, here it is: I have a nVIDIA GeForce Go 7950 GTX 512MB04:08
acehow do i get editing permissions for myself04:08
acei tried sudo chmod 777 * but it doesn't go into folders04:08
jhutchins!permissions | ace04:08
ubotuace: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux04:08
chemicalvampi need help installing qemu04:09
chemicalvampi never installed sorce04:09
jhutchinsace: Chmod has an -R option, but read the manpage and use with great care.04:09
surgy!source | chemicalvamp04:09
ubotuchemicalvamp: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html04:09
acejhutchins: thanks04:09
chemicalvampim not using apt though04:09
jhutchins!build | chemicalvamp04:11
ubotuchemicalvamp: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:11
surgychemicalvamp: are you familiar with the terminal? and the basic commands? if so then navigate to the source directory and then ./configure and then make and then chmod +x the executable04:11
jhutchinssurgy: Don't forget the first step in building software from source tarballs.04:11
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jhutchinssurgy: READ THE README and INSTALL FILES!04:11
surgyjhutchins: lol I ALWAYS forget that one...... but thnx for the reminder04:12
jhutchinssurgy: DON'T just haul off and start configuring and making until you read them.04:12
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chemicalvampbah says i need to extract it to / but i dont have permission, whats the dpkg command04:13
jhutchins!info qemu | chemicalvamp04:13
ubotuchemicalvamp: qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3630 kB, installed size 9860 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)04:13
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chemicalvampso i ont even need to do it this way?04:13
jhutchinschemicalvamp: Correct.04:13
chemicalvamp*grins*04:14
jhutchinsBack later, maybe.04:14
wsjuniorwhat do i need to make audio preview to work inside konqueror?04:14
aaroncampbell!packages04:14
ubotuYou can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!04:14
aaroncampbellI'm trying to build a package for my printer (konica Minolta Magicolor 2430DL), and this is the output: http://paste-bin.com/11365 which is riddled with errors...can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?04:15
chemicalvampinstalling things in awkward ways! true that04:15
wsjuniorcould anybody test this feature to check if it isnt really working?04:15
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artabrahaowhere is the location of C headers files?04:18
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wsjuniorartabrahao: /usr/include ?04:19
MinatakuI believe you want /usr/include04:19
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MinatakuWhich also has all sorts of other header files04:19
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kinuswsjunior: do you have build-essential installed?04:20
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wsjuniorkinus: yes, why?04:21
kinusdid you get your audi preview to work?04:21
wsjuniorno04:21
wsjuniorcould u test it please?04:21
kinuswhere's the source?04:22
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wsjuniorjust open konquereror->view->preview and check sound files04:23
makuseruis there any way to install kubuntu over a nework? instead of from a CD?04:23
wsjuniorand then place yout mouse over a mp3 file and tell me if u can hear anything..04:23
kinuswsjunior: not working04:24
kinusmakuseru: nfs?04:24
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makuserukinus: whats nfs?04:25
epic_after I try to change settings in ati control panel it tells me I need to restart Xserver, how do I do that?04:25
wsjuniorkinus: thanks. i'll file a bug. couldnt get help with this anywhere..04:25
kinusnetwork file server makuseru04:25
makuseruyou can do it that way?04:25
kinuswsjunior: surely it needs to be configured somehow04:25
donAnyone here use wine, or is there a channel I can go toto help with wine?04:25
epic_after I try to change settings in ati control panel it tells me I need to restart Xserver, how do I do that?04:25
surgydon: i use wine but #winehq is your spot04:25
donsurgy thanks04:26
wsjuniorepic_: close your kde session and type control+alt+backspace at the login screen04:26
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epic_thanks04:26
surgyepic_: kde menu >> shutdown >> end session04:26
surgywsjunior: what?????04:26
ubuntuhello04:26
wsjuniorsurgy: it will restart the X04:27
makuserukinus: i can do it that way?04:27
chemicalvamphmm the restore cd (media center edition) works properly, but says "please insert restore dvd in drive now"04:27
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surgywsjunior: umm no, you press the keys cntrl + alt + backspace, not type them04:27
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hunshadhey all04:27
kinusmakuseru: yes04:27
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makuserudo you have a link? so i can read how to do it?04:28
hunshadhow i do an other account on kubuntu04:28
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wsjuniorsurgy: ah, sorry  :-p04:28
kinushunshad: adduser username04:28
hunshadok04:28
surgywsjunior: np :)04:28
hunshadsudo adduser hunshad  for example ?04:29
samandbethanyone know where itcl3 would be installed by default? (installed already with Adept, need the file path now.) I tried Find File/Folders, but I couldn't find it04:29
kinushunshad: or start -> system settings -> user management04:29
kinushunshad: yes04:29
hunshadok04:29
hunshadbut i do an account with your second technic but a cant acces it04:30
kinusyou need to go into administrator mode04:30
kinusthe button is at the bottom right04:30
manchickenAnybody gotten kpilot to work with a Treo 700?04:31
hunshadok i do an account with konsole04:31
hunshadbut that said ''that already exist04:31
kinusits probably better to do it via the gui because then you're added to the basic groups automatically04:31
kinusthen remove the user first04:31
makuserukinus: do you have a link? so i can read how to do it?04:31
hunshadMmm because i did it 4 hour ago04:32
kinusman userdel04:32
hunshadwith system settings04:32
hunshadbut04:32
wsjuniorLOL https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/2795404:32
hunshadi will come back04:32
kinusmakuseru: sorry no04:33
kinuswsjunior: just curious, what file format you trying to preview04:33
kinus?04:33
wsjuniormp304:33
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kinushave you tried ogg?04:33
wsjuniorRiddell said "discussed on IRC, it fixed itself."04:33
wsjuniorkinus: Yes, doesnt work as well..04:34
kinusah ok...i dunno then04:34
kinusi guess it "fixed itself" somehow then04:34
wsjuniorthat's odd04:35
surgyyea linux > windoze && OBD > bill gates04:35
chemicalvampok, http://www.xensource.com/download/xenexpthanks.html?whence= do i need both images?04:36
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surgyso can someone give me a brief primer on serious ui customization from within kde? to the point of making kde look and feal like a completely different window manager?04:41
epic_having major problems with my ATI video card and setting the resolution.04:41
surgy!resolution | epic_04:41
ubotuepic_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:41
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donhow do I add a repository to synaptic?04:59
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tmbgdon, settings -> repositories05:02
tmbgclick on enabled, click on OK. done05:02
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donI'm trying to upgrade wine, it's telling me that some of the dependancies are not met and won't upgrade it. How do I resolve this?05:03
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tmbgdoes it say which ones?05:04
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dontmbg yes there is a list of them05:04
tmbgif you provide that list someone may be able to tell you where to get all of them05:06
donAlright.  I"m digging through synaptic for them now, guess I'll have to update all of them first05:06
donis there an aptitude command to upgrade all that needs it? or will I have to do it seperatly for each?05:07
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dakwhats the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu ? just that kubuntu uses kde ?05:12
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donI assume so.  but I don't know for sure myself.05:13
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tmbgdak, that pretty much sums it up05:13
nibletsI have a problem with Kopete, using the MSN plugin, I cant see the webcam window anymore, when I accept an invitation, it doesnt open. Any deas?05:13
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tmbgdon, adept_updater or something like that may interest you.05:14
dontmbg it deffinatly will, though I just had adept open and it ran through a list of stuff and nothing happened......sheesh05:15
tmbgthere's a way to set it up to poll for updates and toss a little icon in your tray in the panel when updates for something are available.05:16
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tmbgbut it passes my mind how to do this05:16
donit does that already, the icon is there, wine is the only thing that's there to upgrade right now and it won't due to the dependencies needed05:16
nibletsWhere can I get help for Kopete/05:18
donHow do I find out what version of a package I have?05:19
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Admiral_Chicagohello all05:21
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wsjuniorniblets: #kopete05:27
wsjuniordon: depends on your distribution05:28
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chemicalvampman what a dissapointment, virtualization for amd64 machines is very lacking05:30
keyohow do i mount my hdd, installer isnt finding it05:30
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donI try and install a program with aptitude, it gives me a list of dependencies needed, I upgraded the dependencies and aptitude still see'sthe old versions....do I need to restart?05:31
keyochemicalvamp: what cpu05:32
Admiral_Chicagodon: no, what command are you uding05:32
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chemicalvampkeyo amd turion6405:33
donaptitude upgrade wine   when I do that it tells me that some dependencies need upgraded to another version, but the version it says I need, I have...05:33
chemicalvampkeyo sudo mkdir /mnt/hda105:34
keyochemicalvamp: yea I decided against that cpu and recently got a core 2 laptop, i'd like to buy amd but battery life/power usually suck05:34
chemicalvampsudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda105:35
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chemicalvampkeyo im assuming you want to mount your hdd cuz your on live cd?05:35
keyocorrect05:36
chemicalvampthose 2 commands will do it05:36
keyothanks :)05:36
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chemicalvampso what might you be doing with it? :)05:37
Admiral_Chicagodon: paste the output to pastebin.ca05:37
chemicalvamplol this is funny:05:37
chemicalvamp!windows05:37
ubotuFor help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents05:37
donadmiral_Chicago one moment, terminal is running an upgrade, trying to fix it again.  will do so in a few.05:38
Admiral_Chicagokk05:38
keyochemicalvamp:home file server and posibly mythTV05:38
chemicalvampahh i c05:38
keyolol05:38
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keyohmm it doesn't seem to be mounting05:41
keyosudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda105:41
keyospecial device /dev/hda1 does not exist05:41
chemicalvampwhats your root?05:42
chemicalvampmy root is hda105:42
chemicalvamptry 2 or 305:42
keyoum probably sda1 but im not sure05:42
chemicalvampthat could very well be05:42
keyoi think sda is for sata05:42
chemicalvampprobably05:42
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keyoit always worked on previous versions but now with feisty and 1 removed hdd it won't work out of the box05:44
donAdmiral_Chicago this shows apt-get upgrade wine and apt-get install wine  http://pastebin.ca/42795105:45
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donLooking up those packages in synaptic, it says I DO have the versions it says I need there.05:45
donWhen I try to apt-get install 'package' on any of the packages on that list it tells me I have the latest version05:46
Admiral_Chicagohold on, reading05:46
keyoah it seems when i removed the broken hdd i yanked the sata cable off the mobo05:47
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keyosorry :S05:47
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chemicalvampkeyo :)05:47
Admiral_Chicagodon: sudo apt-get build-dep wine05:47
chemicalvampat least it will work now05:48
keyoat least i can't fault linux :)05:48
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donAdmiral_Chicago that's what I was doing when I told ya to hold on! heh it's finished now and that pastebin points to what I was told after doing the build-dep05:49
donmaybe I should uninstall wine and try to reinstall the newer version that way?05:50
Admiral_Chicagohmm, i wish I had my system. running05:50
Admiral_Chicagotry to do it via aptitude05:50
Admiral_Chicagobetter about stuff like that05:50
donI'll paste what it says, but it won't do it either, one sec05:51
donwith aptitude upgrade wine I get the same "package held back" message05:51
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Admiral_Chicagodon: please paste you /etc/apt/sources.list05:53
donAdmiral_Chicago it's now telling me, with aptitude install wine, that the missing dependencie list is still there, but to fix it, to remove wine and lib wine....I'm going to move ahead and see what happens05:53
ksnipacan someobody help me find the font directory05:53
Admiral_Chicagotry that05:53
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donI told it yes, it's working05:54
donksnipa I'm new to linux myself, but have to tried 'locate font'?05:54
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ksnipa?05:56
ksnipasorry don, not quite sure where to find that05:56
donAdmiral_Chicago it's givingme the same list of problems after I removed and tried to install.......I'll paste that file for you05:56
donksnipa type in 'locate font' in a terminal05:56
ksnipadon, cool thanks I'll give it a try05:57
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ksnipadon, awsome found them thanks05:57
ksnipa/usr/share/fonts05:57
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donAdmiral_Chicago here is that file you wanted http://pastebin.ca/42796106:01
donksnipa that directory/file there should hold your fonts.  What are you wanting/trying to do?06:03
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ksnipadon, nothing really just needed to select a font for vlc player to use for the sub titles06:04
ksnipaso I just needed to find where they were located so I could select one06:04
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donksnipa was that directory able to do what you needed?06:04
Admiral_Chicagodon: what architecture do you use?06:04
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ksnipayea, found all the fonts in there so Just picked the one I wanted06:04
donksnipa great!  glad I could help....that's a first for me! lol I'm a newb! hehe06:05
ksnipathats awsome, I've been messing around with things for a few months now, learn something new everytime06:05
donyep, me too.  Still got lot's to learn! lol06:06
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Admiral_Chicagodon: what kind of computer are you running. x86?06:06
donyes06:06
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chemicalvampbah pentium.. if everybody used amd64 linux would be a happier place06:07
chemicalvampwell happier for me06:07
Admiral_Chicagodon:  http://pastebin.ca/42796406:07
donyeah, this is an old P2 laptop06:07
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donAdmiral_Chicago what do I do with that?06:09
Admiral_Chicagodon: alt + f2. kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list06:09
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donthen copy/paste what's in that pastebin over what I have here?06:10
Admiral_Chicagoover everything yes06:11
donok06:11
donDone, now try aptitude install again?06:12
Admiral_Chicagodon: sudo apt-get update06:12
Admiral_Chicagothen try it06:12
donok06:12
dondid the update...now try aptitude install wine?06:14
donor somethingelse first?06:14
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Admiral_Chicagodon: yes. try that06:16
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donAdmiral_Chicago still same problem...crud06:16
Admiral_Chicagowth.06:17
Admiral_Chicagono way.06:17
Admiral_Chicagosudo aptitude purge wine06:17
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get install wine06:17
donone moment06:17
premier_will ubuntu usually recognize mice with more than two buttons and a scroll wheel?  like two scroll wheels, or a fourth button, or something?06:18
Admiral_Chicagoit should06:18
donI'm purging now, but it is giving me a new list of things being 'kept back'06:18
Admiral_Chicagogrr, what the...06:19
donit told me one of the directories wasn't empty so it wasn't removed....heh06:19
Admiral_Chicagohow did you install wine the first time06:20
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donthrough synaptic got wine version 0.9.9, the upgraded/newest version is 0.9.39 that I'm trying to get...06:20
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joheyFirefox and Thunderbird won't skin as my QT apps, even though I have told it to in the system settings. Why? (I haven't tried with other GTK apps).06:22
Admiral_Chicagodude...06:23
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Admiral_Chicagoyou're trying to rollback versions06:23
Admiral_Chicago.9 > .3906:23
donthe site says that 0.9.39 is the newest version and the folks at #winehq say that 0.9.9 is old...I know it looks odd, but that's the way of it.06:24
zerothisforgive my ignorence, I have WIBD. Linux woul allow my to create a directory (~/dira) that linked to another directory (~/dirab) so the everything in dirb would be seen in dira. and then I could link another directory (/media/sd1/dirc) so that everything in dirc would also appear in dira. so dirb and dirc content would both be listed in dira. possible with ln. and would these best be a hard links or symbolic (or one of each)06:24
chemicalvamp*scratches head*06:25
doneven when I try to use adept it still gives me the error of needing dependencies updated that I already have the versions of it it's asking for...06:26
sonoftheclayrjohey: firefox and thunderbird have their own skin, you could try and find a theme similiar to the one you use in QT06:27
Admiral_Chicagohmm, that is odd06:27
Admiral_Chicago!wine06:27
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:27
Admiral_Chicagotry that link06:27
Admiral_Chicagoits not your sources06:27
joheysonoftheclayr: Well, by default they always have been skinned as my QT apps. I don't know why they don't do that on this system. They did when I ran dapper, but in the upgrade to edgy, they turned into default GTK+2 skin.06:28
khaije1johey: there is an option to enable qt's gtk+ compatability iirc06:29
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sonoftheclayrjohey; hmmm, that's weird but my firefox doesn't skin as my theme, i'm not all that fussed really i like my firfox theme06:30
donAdmiral_Chicago using adept it's updating alot of the 'kept back' packages that were listed before.  that site you gave me simply says to use synaptic...which I may try after adept is done.06:31
Admiral_Chicagohmm, there is no wine repo?06:31
sonoftheclayrwine has it's own repo's06:31
donAdmiral_Chicago there is, but I get the same error using it...I'll try it once more if synoptic doesn't work.06:32
joheykhaije1: Yes, but as I said it doesn't help.06:32
Admiral_Chicagothat is really really strange06:32
Admiral_Chicagoi'm not sure how to help you out06:32
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donusing adept to install it doesn't work...this is annoying06:33
Admiral_Chicagoadept and synaptic are both guis for apt06:34
donI know I have the version of the packages it says I need....I'm considering restarting the computer...maybe then it would recognize the updated ones?06:34
khaije1johey: iirc its not enabled by default, it's an option under kcontrol06:34
donhow do I know if I"m running edgy or dapper?06:35
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Admiral_Chicagodon: you are using dapper06:35
Admiral_Chicagoits in your /etc/apt/sources.list06:35
donokay, I need to add the wine repository to that file correct?06:36
joheykhaije1: Yes, I have enabled that.06:36
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Admiral_Chicagoyes06:39
donwell that didn't help any.  I added everything as it said I should and it still gives me that same list....I'm going to restart the computer and if that doesn't do it I"m done for the night..  Thanks alot for your patience and help.06:40
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chemicalvampanybody here ever seen "ISOLINUX 3.11 Debian-2006-03-16 isolinux: Image checksum error, sorry...06:52
chemicalvampboot failed: press a key to retry06:52
chemicalvampsound like a cdrom error?06:54
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Powerking89670Does anyone know of a tutorial that can be used to create a modified version of the Kubuntu live CD?06:55
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soulrider_!info kdeedu07:09
ubotukdeedu: educational apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 68 kB07:09
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mikes1I cannot run Opera in feisty07:15
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makuseruis there any way to install kubuntu over a nework? instead of from a CD?07:16
nonuda!installation07:18
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues07:18
Powerking89670here is a link for how to do it with a server07:20
Powerking89670https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet07:20
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hunshadhey all07:21
hunshadsomebody can help me07:21
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Powerking89670just ask your question07:21
hunshadok07:21
Powerking89670if someone knows the answer they will give it :D07:21
hunshad2 days ago i clean my pc and disconnect composant like video card etc07:22
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hunshadok and when i turn on my computer trere have no detection of connection to reseau07:23
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mardihi, i can't seem to get my center speaker working in Kubuntu 6.10, i've messed with alsamixer with no resluts, any help?07:23
hunshadok I'm not a big speakin english :P07:23
Powerking89670whats your native language hunshad?07:23
hunshadfrench07:24
hunshad but everyall sleep07:24
DaSkreechWhich language hunshad ?07:24
DaSkreech!fr07:24
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:24
Powerking89670oh, I know SOME french07:24
DaSkreechah :-)07:24
hunshadok07:24
hunshadtu comprend sa07:24
aaroncampbellwhat package gives me mod_rewrite for apache?07:24
DaSkreechI need some help with figuring out a Win(assumed)Modem On a laptop07:24
Powerking89670oui07:24
hunshadok07:24
hunshadbon tu me dit quel mot tu ne comprend pas07:25
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hunshadbon voila il y a 2 jour jai nettoyer mon pc et j'ai dbrancher les composante externe07:25
Powerking89670Je suis comprend (?Im not good on saying things in french...I can understand just not speak it)07:26
hunshadok me too07:26
hunshadbut for english07:26
Powerking89670kk, just say it in french then, I can understand you :D07:26
Powerking89670miraculusly07:26
hunshadbut i can explain in english07:26
makuseruis there any way to install kubuntu over a nework? instead of from a CD?07:26
hunshadok07:26
Powerking89670here hunshad, lets not disturb these people07:26
Powerking89670type07:26
hunshadta fini de lire07:26
Powerking89670/join #pkhelp07:26
DaSkreechPowerking89670: You could just join hin in #kubuntu-fr :-)07:27
DaSkreechhim07:27
DaSkreech!laptop07:28
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org07:28
Powerking89670he can do that if I cant get it07:29
ScottLij_ why is KDE supposed to be better than Gnome?07:31
nixternalit is all personal choice, this isn't the place to start that either07:32
ScottLij_well thats certainly not a good question to ask in a Gnome channel07:32
nixternaland its not a good question to ask in a KDE channel that is here for support, now you can ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #kubuntu-offtopic and be fine :)07:33
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nonudahas anyone here install ubuntu-desktop?07:35
DaSkreechnonuda: safe to say yes07:35
|Iwonder|think you'd get less results by asking who hasn't07:36
chemicalvampwhats the sudo move command?07:36
|Iwonder|sudo mv07:36
chemicalvampi mean for a folder07:36
nonudaok, in quit dialog box, why there's no shutdown or turn off button? can we add it manually?07:36
DaSkreechchemicalvamp: same07:37
|Iwonder|sudo mv /dirctory07:37
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nonudain my ubuntu desktop, the quit dialog box show me only : Log Out, Lock Screen, Switch User, Hibernate and Cancel07:37
Pupeno2Hello.07:38
Pupeno2How do I run the wizzard to upgrade to Feisty beta from a totally up-to-date Edgy?07:38
|Iwonder|my guess would be user doesn't have halt rights07:38
nonudaso to turning off the pc i have to log out and turn it off in login box..hmm07:39
|Iwonder|look in your control panel,see if there is a option to allow user to use shutdown or halt07:40
|Iwonder|or open a console and sudo halt07:41
nonudaah ok..07:41
Pupeno2wouldn't 'sudo halt' halt without properly exiting KDE?07:41
DaSkreechPupeno2: read the topic07:42
|Iwonder|it should telinit 607:42
Pupeno2DaSkreech: already did, and the instructions in that page don't work for me. I already reported it.07:42
|Iwonder|which will shutdown all services07:42
DaSkreechWhat does it do?07:42
Pupeno2DaSkreech: as well as about 10 other people at least.07:42
Pupeno2DaSkreech: nothing, the wizard never run.s07:42
DaSkreechHmm07:43
DaSkreechdid you close and reopen adept?07:43
|Iwonder|Pupeno2:  did you enable your repos?07:43
DaSkreechI think that was a bug07:43
Pupeno2DaSkreech: the wizard only runs *if* there is a package being upgraded.07:43
|Iwonder|yes you must close,reopen and i think update07:43
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Pupeno2|Iwonder|: yes.07:44
|Iwonder|took me several tries to get it right,i kept overlooking something in instructions07:44
nonudawhat control panel, to make my user have a direct button to shutdown?07:44
DaSkreechPupeno2: Worked fine for me.07:44
Pupeno2DaSkreech: I am happy for you then.07:45
|Iwonder|i also had bad luck with it,i didn't think to clean my repos first ,the upgrade hung and left me with a non bootable system07:45
|Iwonder|nonuda:  that would depend on your DE07:46
nonudadesktop envyronment? its ubuntu (gnome)07:46
|Iwonder|some WM don't have control panels and it must be edited manually,you'd have to research it07:46
DaSkreechPupeno2: What's your experince?07:46
Pupeno2DaSkreech: what do you mean?07:47
|Iwonder|is there gnome control panel with an adminastrative section?07:47
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erniehello07:47
nonudayup07:47
|Iwonder|i have xfce,icewm and kde,only kde has it07:48
DaSkreechPupeno2: Nothing happened?07:48
Pupeno2Basically, the "Full upgrade" button is disabled on Adept, so there's no way I could press it right now.07:48
DaSkreechSomething broke?07:48
DaSkreechPupeno2: How is that possible?07:48
nonudai do have administration section07:48
DaSkreechYou are on edgy?07:48
Pupeno2DaSkreech: because there's no updates.07:48
Pupeno2DaSkreech: yes.07:48
DaSkreechPupeno2: You are on edgy?07:49
DaSkreechand  are going to Feisty?07:49
Pupeno2DaSkreech: yes.07:49
Pupeno2DaSkreech: yes.07:49
Pupeno2DaSkreech: untill some new package is upgraded, there won't be any possibility to upgrade packages.07:49
DaSkreechand there are no files on feisty that is different from edgy?07:49
DaSkreechWoah07:49
Pupeno2So, basically, I need an alternative way to trigger the upgrade manager.07:50
Pupeno2DaSkreech: what?07:50
DaSkreechPupeno2: What are you running? which KDE version?07:50
Pupeno2DaSkreech: I have an Edgy install, I am running Edgy and Edgy's KDE.07:50
DaSkreechah default install of KDE07:50
se7en11why don't you edit the sourcelist07:51
DaSkreechcan you paste your sources.list?07:51
Pupeno2DaSkreech: yes.07:51
Pupeno2DaSkreech: sure.07:51
erniei have a problem with adept too: adept tells me "a new version of kubuntu is available! Click next if you wish to upgrade now". But the next-button ("Weiter") is disabled (kubuntu 7.03)07:51
Pupeno2DaSkreech: http://paste.lisp.org/display/3935007:52
hunshad#debian07:52
DaSkreechernie: 7.03?07:52
erikja!force07:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about force - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:53
se7en11Pupeno2: so change edgy to feisty and do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade07:53
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Pupeno2se7en11: if I do that, I wouldn't be testing the upgrade tool which the Kubuntu devs are asking ups to test: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade07:54
ernieDaSkreech: feisty07:55
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se7en11ok Pupeno207:55
se7en11but you would upgrade to feisty07:55
Pupeno2ernie: that's probably why you can't upgrade. You are already running the lattest version. The fact that the upgrade tool is being run is probably a bug (and Feisty is 7.04).07:56
Pupeno2se7en11: Ok. Thank you.07:56
DaSkreechPupeno2: Hmm07:56
DaSkreechwhen you click reload do any of the checks fail?07:56
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Pupeno2DaSkreech: none.07:56
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erniePupeno2: hmmm, but according to the webpage 7.04 is from 23.3.7. my feisty is older!?07:57
DaSkreechand you have kubuntu-desktop installed?07:57
screamohey07:57
screamo espaol???07:57
Pupeno2DaSkreech: yes.07:57
Pupeno2!es07:57
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.07:57
chemicalvamp!es07:57
screamoquien habla espaol?07:57
screamo do you speak spanish??07:57
Pupeno2ernie: what?07:58
screamooks07:58
chemicalvampasi asi07:58
screamo thanks _07:58
Pupeno2screamo: lee lo que dice ubotu.07:58
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screamooks07:58
DaSkreechWhat version of adept do you have?07:58
Pupeno2DaSkreech: "2.1 Cruiser"07:59
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Pupeno2DaSkreech: is it supoused to activate the "Full upgrade" button when no package upgrade is available?07:59
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DaSkreechWell enabling edgy-proposed should update adept which should update the package version08:00
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Pupeno2DaSkreech: but I have upgraded to all edgy-proposed packages long ago, the edgy-proposed repo has been enabled on my install since day 0 (probably just after a month after edgy was released)>08:01
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Pupeno2DaSkreech: I've installed all those packages, the wizard appeared but I couldn't upgrade at that moment. Now that I can upgrade I can't launch the wizard becauset *it would run only when a package upgrade is in order*.08:02
DaSkreechah08:02
DaSkreechthat's a bit different08:02
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Pupeno2So, how do I run the wizard to upgrade to Feisty beta from a totally up-to-date Edgy (including edgy-proposed)?08:04
icecrunchersudo "adept_updater -d -c" i believe08:06
Pupeno2icecruncher: adept_updater: Unknown option '-d'.08:07
icecruncherPupeno2: not quite sure, check on the forums, it's there08:07
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jordanhaving trouble following this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539) to get my wireless setup08:17
Lynourejordan: What's your end goal? And at what point you have trouble?08:19
jordanThe end goal is to connect to my wireless router using WPA2 authentication08:19
ernieah, as i understand now my system was installed with Herd 5....08:20
Lynourejordan: does your router do all those standards?08:20
jordanit doesn't seem to be accepting the settings in /etc/network/interfaces for my wireless connection, ra008:20
jordanLynoure: yes08:20
jordanLynoure: right now it is setup for WPA2 Personal (using shared key) and TKIP+AES ciphers08:22
Lynourejordan: Those should be doable even with just networkmanager...08:23
jordanLynoure: here is my /etc/network/interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14342/08:24
Lynourejordan: much much easier. But the guy who posted the instructions you are following did also offer to help, it seems ("Post these if you are stumped")08:24
Lynourejordan: better change that key afterwards...08:25
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Lynourejordan: I do not know if rt2500 does all these...08:27
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Lynourejordan: do you get any errors on ifup?08:29
screamoa08:29
screamoe08:29
screamoi08:29
screamoo08:29
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pingvenou?08:30
pingvenoand sometimes y?08:30
Lynourescreamo: sorry, don't want to buy a vowel, try on #wheeloffortune?08:30
jordan_Lynoure: what version of knetworkmanager do you have? Mine cannot do WPA08:30
jordan_Lynoure: only WEP08:31
Lynourejordan_: well, I'm currently on Feisty, but even the one I had on dapper did...08:31
Lynourejordan_: sounds like you are missing something then.08:31
jordan_Lynoure: I am also running feisty beta08:31
Lynourejordan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78250.html could also help you, if you want to configure it manually08:31
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pollyoHello08:32
pollyoAnyone know a site like partypoker or fulltiltpoker that will work with linux?08:32
Lynourejordan_: do you have installed WPA supplicant?08:32
Lynourepollyo: I know people have used partypoker with wine08:32
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pollyoLynoure: Do you know how well it works?08:33
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jordan_Lynoure: yes08:33
Lynourepollyo: not first hand. But I recall them seeing it worked fine.08:33
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pollyoIts a shame they do not have a java client for the poker sites.08:34
pingvenoI'm having some trouble with kmail. I have an imap account set up. With some mail I will suddenly find that the piece of mail has suddenly multiplied into multiple emails. Any ideas on how to fix it?08:34
Lynourejordan_: for networkmanager, in dapper, I had to empty /etc/network/interfaces but on feisty it no longer seems necessary08:34
pingvenoNo problems on thunderbird on (shiver) Windows08:34
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Lynourepingveno:  you probably have Delete on server off.08:35
DaSkreechpingveno: FAIK Kmail ain't great with imap try mailody08:35
Lynourepingveno: so each time you get yet another local copy...08:35
se7en11what's the different between /media/  and media:/    ? if i try mount a partition from media:/ it will not work but the same partiton from /media/ works ????08:35
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DaSkreechmedia is a link to /mnt?08:36
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DaSkreechI think it's kubuntu specific08:36
se7en11DaSkreech: no my mnt is empty08:37
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: no08:37
vincersurfahh08:37
pingvenoLynoure: It's an imap account, there's no deleting needed08:37
Lynourepingveno: that is not true, if you get a local copy, but sure, for most uses not.08:37
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: that wasnt one of the things that Kubuntu changed?08:37
Admiral_Chicagonope08:37
pingvenoLynoure: It gets replicated *on the server*08:38
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Lynourepingveno: oh, then I'd look into the imap server software.08:38
pingvenoLynoure: I can see it when I view it in Thunderbird or through webmail08:38
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pingvenoLynoure: shouldn't it just work (tm) because imap is a generic protocol?08:39
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screamoola?08:39
pingvenoIt is, btw, an imap interface to an Exchange sever08:39
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billwhat can I use to convert a DVD to mpeg-4?08:39
se7en11DaSkreech: i formated my windows partion and now i can't mount the partion from media:/ only from /media08:40
Lynourepingveno: some servers are buggy, too. Of course it Should Just Work, ideally, but not always in RL08:40
pollyoI'm giving partypoker a try through wine.08:40
pingvenoLynoure: Ah, but of course08:40
screamo_spanish??08:40
pollyobill: Does k9copy do that?08:40
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screamo???08:40
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: any clue why?08:40
Lynourepingveno: there is a bug reported on that, it seems http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14351808:40
DaSkreech!es | screamo08:40
ubotuscreamo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.08:40
pingvenoLynoure: Oh, thanks!08:41
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: to what?08:41
DaSkreechse7en11's media:/ issue?08:41
DaSkreechhe formatted a partition and can't see it in media:/ anymore08:41
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DaSkreech unless the UID got messed up?08:41
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Lynourepingveno: actually it seem http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118074 has all the yummy details08:42
Admiral_Chicagoperhaps. I don't use the uid. don't like it08:42
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pingvenoLynoure: Yeah, I'm looking through the comments08:42
emoXcoreosasa08:42
Lynourepingveno: ok, good luck. :)08:42
pingvenoLynoure: thanks08:42
pingvenoI'll see what I can do08:42
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pollyoAnyone know the estimated number of linux users worldwide?08:44
hackdaddyi upgraded firefox but now nothing happens when i start it.  i tried removing and reinstalling, but nothing seems to make it work08:44
DaSkreechpollyo: a lot more than you think / Not enough08:45
DaSkreechhackdaddy: start it from the konsole08:45
pollyoDaSkreech: It will ben ice to start seeing sites have the MAC/Windows/Linux download options.08:45
abortdpollyo, 29 million08:46
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DaSkreechicecruncher: What's up with feisty?08:46
hackdaddydaskreech, you rock!!!  thanks!!!!08:46
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DaSkreechhackdaddy: Yeah firefox gets on my nerves some times08:46
icecruncherDaSkreech: it's got to many problems08:46
hackdaddydaskreech, another 3 sec expert08:46
Admiral_Chicagohackdaddy: ...thats not a permanant fix08:46
DaSkreechhackdaddy: if you want the konsole you can put firefox in the background08:46
DaSkreechicecruncher: Like?08:47
Admiral_Chicagofirefox &08:47
hackdaddydaskreech, :-) :-)08:47
pollyoOk Partpoker installed now lets see if it loads.08:47
nonudaguys, i still can't find the way to add a direct shutdown button in ubuntu desktop08:47
icecruncherDaSkreech: like usb not recognized at all, and lot's of random program crashes08:47
hackdaddyi just used the run command like start->run :-)  daskreesh08:47
DaSkreechicecruncher: random programs? or the same ones keep crashing?08:48
se7en11one more thing if i backup my /home/.kde folder and cp it back in a new install will i have all my settings back?08:48
DaSkreechhackdaddy: ah that works as well08:48
icecruncherDaSkreech: the wierd part is that there is nothing to report since the don't leave behind a nice crahreport08:48
DaSkreech I just always have a Konsole open :-)08:48
DaSkreechicecruncher: they just disappear huh?08:48
icecruncherDaSkreech: yup08:48
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DaSkreechYeah I had the same issue on edgy08:48
DaSkreech Figured it was my RAM08:48
DaSkreechThen I just blamed it on Firefox08:49
hackdaddywhere can i get rosegarden and other midi editors as a ubuntu package?08:49
icecruncherlol, my fx crashes too08:49
DaSkreechYeah it does08:49
pollyoLoads and runs like a windows program... Swaping system like crazy...08:49
DaSkreechWonder when we will get iceweasel08:49
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icecruncherDaSkreech: how about 5 packages held back not installable and a few broken ones08:50
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DaSkreechwhich ones got held back?08:50
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icecruncherDaSkreech: krusader, libraries and scribus08:50
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CatRangershello08:51
DaSkreechWould be nice if apt could tell you why08:51
CatRangerssomeone can help me ?08:51
Admiral_ChicagoCatRangers: we can try08:51
DaSkreech!anyone08:51
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:51
CatRangersi need to know how to install vmware workstation in kubuntu08:51
icecruncherDaSkreech: lol, and I forgot, kopete crahes as soon as I sign into msn08:51
Admiral_Chicagoif you ask your question of course08:51
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CatRangersAdmiral_Chicago: nice :D please08:52
DaSkreechicecruncher: Yeah I hate kopete but as #gaim 's topic says If you have problems with MSN assume that it's MSN08:52
DaSkreech!vmware08:52
CatRangershow i do it ?08:52
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers08:52
LynoureIs there a way to adjust the height of the menubar? Currently I have a lot of slack space below and above the font.08:52
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icecruncherDaSkreech: haha, of course08:53
CatRangersDaSkreech:  thanks ^^08:53
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manchickenAnybody here use kpilot with a palm device?08:53
CatRangersbut i have a tag file that i downloaded08:53
DaSkreechicecruncher: If it makes you feel any better my friend's gaim kept crashing everytime he connected to yahoo all week08:53
DaSkreech!kpilot08:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpilot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:54
nick__hey guys, what't the shortcut in kde to get to the menu of a window? you know when you click the top left corner, you get a menu... how do i access that without touching my mouse?08:54
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icecruncherDaSkreech: lol, amsn was to solution08:54
DaSkreechnick__: alt+f308:54
Lynouremanchicken: I do08:54
DaSkreechicecruncher: how is that?08:54
nick__DaSkreech: beauty, thanks08:54
DaSkreechI started using it when it was less than two months old08:54
Lynouremanchicken: to some degree, at least, on feisty.08:54
icecruncherDaSkreech: dunno, just works with that, and no probs08:54
manchickenLynoure: Do you have any trouble setting up the conduits to sync up with kontact?08:54
cytHi all, My network env. is ADSL, and I find that at the "Configure network interfaces" stage of booting process, it will hang several minutes. Any suggestions?08:55
DaSkreechicecruncher: Is it trying to be the Windows Live messenger or is it just sticking with old fashioned MSN messenger?08:55
DaSkreechcyt: Press ctrl+Z08:55
hackdaddyhow do i unzip a bz2 extension file?08:56
Lynouremanchicken: well, yes. korganizer things still multiply the entries...08:56
DaSkreechhackdaddy: with ark08:56
icecruncherDaSkreech: dunno,08:56
hackdaddythanks, dasckreech!!!08:56
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manchickenLynoure: I'm not able to get it to sync at all.08:56
manchickenLynoure: Says it can't open the conduit.08:57
kaiDoes any one know the name of the MySQL GUI tool?08:57
kaiI can't find that package08:57
manchickenkai: I think it's called the "Trash Bin"08:57
manchicken:)08:57
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kaimanchicken: ....No I already checked there :|08:58
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manchickenkai: Look in adept.  They've got several in there.08:58
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kaiI'll check again08:58
kaiI was in cli when I was tryin to find it08:59
pollyoKmysqladmin?08:59
manchickenkai: Just look for "mysql" and I think there's the query thing, and the whatever browser.08:59
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pollyoMysqladministrator?08:59
cytDaSkreech: Thx, I will try it :)08:59
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kaiHow ya'll do that> another question is this kIRC client only limite to linux are can i gon other one like on mIRc?09:00
developerHey all :)09:00
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Lynouremanchicken: hmm, I'm not having that.09:01
DaSkreechicecruncher: Don't know the difference between MSN and Live messenger?09:01
icecruncherDaSkreech: except fot eh interface no. lol09:01
DaSkreechkai: Huh?09:01
kai* Admiral_Chicago hits manchicken with all 57 variaties of Heinz09:02
Admiral_Chicago?09:02
icecruncherDaSkreech: never used licve myself09:02
icecruncher*live09:02
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Admiral_Chicagobbia09:02
kaiAnd I wanna know if I can get into the same irc hcat room that I would like in mIRC09:02
kaiI like to mod my box an dI have to to xbins, can I get there from here?09:03
DaSkreechicecruncher: can it accept those aggravating emoticons that replae normal words?09:03
DaSkreechkai: yes you can09:03
icecruncherDaSkreech: ja09:03
Admiral_Chicagokai: of course09:03
DaSkreechicecruncher: remind me never to install amsn09:04
Admiral_Chicagokai:  but ask  DaSkreech, i'm afk09:04
icecruncherDaSkreech: haha09:04
kaido I have to make a new server channel09:04
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kaiMy bad, Im still learning some of the things09:06
kaiI still never learned how to access mySql with having a million .jar files in all my directories09:07
flaccidmysql -u root -p09:08
flaccid?09:08
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kaiflaccid: whats that command?09:17
flaccidthats the command to connect to the mysql server with the mysql client09:18
flaccidwith the root account, asking for pass09:18
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DavyTum09:18
DavyTkubuntu and a nvidia 8800gtx09:19
DavyTare those going to work together?09:19
flaccid!nvidia09:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:19
flaccidi believe so09:19
flaccidmmm09:20
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flaccidshould do09:21
DavyTyeah?09:21
DavyTyou dont seem really sure :x09:21
flaccidcheck..09:21
flaccidthe vesa driver will always work and the binary one should too09:22
DavyTwell yeah09:22
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flaccidnvidia-glx09:23
flaccid!nvidia-glx09:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:23
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flaccidalso http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy09:24
DavyTwell09:24
DavyTthanks for your help09:24
flaccidnp09:24
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flaccidi use this one at work: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 Ultra/GeForce 6800 GT]  (rev a2)09:26
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jack_hi, i've got the problem that when i am idle xorg cpu load goes up to 100%, centrino duo core processor used.thanks09:27
ghjkHi There09:28
DaSkreechjack_: have Firefox open?09:28
jack_DaSkreech: yes, often, but it happens without firefox too09:29
ghjkI have a ASROCK MB with an AMD64X2 3800 and doesn't recognize sound and NIC!09:29
DaSkreech!sound09:29
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP309:29
ghjkis this sound familiar to you guys?09:29
jack_when there is no app running which is not a system app daskreech09:29
ghjkI see09:30
manchickenw00t!09:30
manchickenFixed it.09:30
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DaSkreechmanchicken: Whatchado?09:30
manchickenjpilot has the best logging of all of the sync proggies.09:30
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manchickenWell, I was trying out different ones to see if it was just kpilot that was failing to read the PIM databases.09:30
ghjkalso, I have a SATAII HD and when I try to install it, freezes after partitioning almost 36%09:30
flaccid!kpilot09:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpilot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:31
manchickenjpilot left a log on there telling me that wireless sync was disabling PIM syncing for other proggies.09:31
flacciddang09:31
manchickenSo I went in, changed the wireless sync settings on the treo, and BAM!  it looks like it's syncing.09:31
manchickenWhich is just so delicious.09:31
manchickenI've been fighting with it for about 5 hours now.09:31
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manchickenI'm pretty happy about that.09:33
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DavyTwow09:33
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meh!media09:34
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs09:34
meh!dvd09:34
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs09:34
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Voker57how can i add a path where programs must search libraries09:39
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Voker57?09:39
DaSkreech!path09:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:39
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DaSkreechOh wait you want a libpath09:39
manchicken!$PATH09:39
Voker57DaSkreech: yes09:39
Voker57i was already told something about it, but forgot the thing09:40
Voker57it was something with ldconfig09:40
emoXcoresasa09:40
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emoXcorespanish09:40
DaSkreech!es09:40
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:40
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Voker57!ru09:42
ubotu   #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke09:42
intelikeyVoker57 the PATH variable can be set in several places.   /etc/environment /etc/profile /etc/bash.bashrc  $HOME/.bashrc $HOME/.profile $HOME/.bash_bashrc    and possably others.      in all but the /etc/environment  use  export PATH="/all/your:/path/needs:/here"09:43
Voker57eh09:43
intelikeyVoker57 seeing that the ones with    $HOME/.  are all user specific it's better to use one of them if you can.09:44
DaSkreechintelikey: he wants libpath09:44
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Voker57i get that: error while loading shared libraries: libguichan.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory09:44
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intelikeyoh lib path    yes that's something else09:44
Voker57while this lib exists in /usr/local/lib/09:44
emoXcorespanish?09:45
emoXcorehelp mee09:45
emoXcore xD09:45
Voker57i tried modifying ld.conf and running ldconfig09:45
digitx: D09:45
emoXcorespanish?09:45
emoXcorehii??09:45
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emoXcorex_x09:45
digitxhungarian ?09:45
emoXcore=(09:45
emoXcoreolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa09:45
emoXcorehola09:45
digitxszia09:45
emoXcorehey?09:45
digitxhey ;)09:46
emoXcorex_x09:46
Voker57emoXcore: /join #kubuntu-es09:46
emoXcoreno09:46
emoXcore=P09:46
digitx /join #gentoo-hu09:46
digitx:D09:46
emoXcoreemM no =P09:46
digitx;)09:46
DaSkreech!coc | emoXcore Please look at this09:46
ubotuemoXcore Please look at this: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:46
DaSkreech!hu09:47
ubotuMagyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall09:47
digitx:D09:47
emoXcore=O09:47
digitx!es09:47
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:47
emoXcoreNO09:47
emoXcoreNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO09:47
emoXcore_09:47
emoXcorenooo09:47
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DaSkreechintelikey: can we devoice him?09:47
emoXcoremy ban kubuntu ubuntu edubuntu es09:48
hackdaddyhow do i setup my midi subsystem on kubuntu?09:48
intelikeyVoker57  mmmm /etc/ld.so.conf   maybe ?09:48
emoXcoreO_O?09:48
DaSkreech!midi09:48
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo09:48
emoXcorei can speak english u_u09:48
hackdaddythanks!09:48
hackdaddy!midi09:48
Voker57intelikey: i did it...09:48
nonuda_!forum09:48
ubotuThe Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org09:48
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icecrunchercan anyone help on how to set up a netboot/install09:49
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fdovingemoXcore: good, then please behave yourself and have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IrcGuidelines - if you have a question, please ask, if not please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. thanks :)09:50
meh!.wmv09:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:50
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DaSkreech!netboot09:51
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues09:51
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Admiral_Chicago!abuse | icecruncher09:54
ubotuicecruncher: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:54
Admiral_Chicagothat's for the !ping09:54
icecruncherAdmiral_Chicago: come on twice?09:54
DaSkreechisn't there a !btabuse09:54
DaSkreechbotabuse09:54
icecruncherlol09:54
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: yea probably but i foget the command09:55
Admiral_Chicagoicecruncher: well im just avoiding hw...09:55
Admiral_Chicagoto be honest09:55
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ghjkany one knowing about SATA II problems?09:55
DaSkreech!botabuse09:55
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...09:55
ghjkI have a ASROCK with NVIDIA NF-6100-43009:56
ghjkand can't detect sound, GB LAN and doesn't install on a SATA II HD09:56
ghjkwhen trying to install09:56
ghjkit doesn't finish with the partitions creating!09:56
ghjkany one who could a tip on these problems?09:57
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posingaspopularghjk: did you try google/ubuntu forums?09:58
posingaspopularthats all i have, i dont know anything abotu SATAsince i use IDE09:58
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ghjkno I didn't :-(09:59
ghjksorry for that09:59
ghjktrying firts to see if I could any quick help09:59
posingaspopularghjk: its okay10:00
ghjkif it was something known already10:00
posingaspopularask again in  a few if you want, as long as you don't spam, but usually those give you the fastest answers10:00
icecruncherk, is it possible to make a net install without a local server?10:01
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ghjkyou mean the forums?10:01
ghjkthey are faster than the IRC?10:01
fdoving!install | icecruncher10:01
ubotuicecruncher: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate10:01
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posingaspopularghjk: what i mean is that you never know when irc will have the answer10:02
ghjkyeah that's right!10:02
ghjkI was just trying to see if I'm lucky enough!10:03
ghjkOK10:03
ghjkthanks10:03
ghjk you guys10:03
ghjkjust a generic question10:03
ghjkI thought that NVIDIA is better supported in Linux than VIA10:03
ghjkis that right?10:04
DaSkreechWho said that?10:04
wolferinehehe10:04
DaSkreechdepends on what you mean by support10:04
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shad-99any one know how to get access to your usb harddrive and get permission?10:05
ghjkI mean that they get picked-up immediately when you install it10:05
wolferineshad-99, no, I dont have a usb harddrive10:06
shad-99ahh ok10:06
DaSkreechshad-99: Just mount it10:06
shad-99strange... it worked before, but now it says that i don't have permissions to enter it? -Wierd?10:06
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DaSkreechshad-99: You mounted it manually?10:09
shad-99yea via the disk menu10:09
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shad-99but i can't access it any more10:09
DaSkreechHmm10:09
K`zanLooks like edgy is a bust for me, /dev/ttyUSB* stuff quit working with updates today :-(.10:10
K`zanww10:10
K`zanLooks like edgy is a bust for me, /dev/ttyUSB* stuff quit working with updates today :-(.10:10
K`zan<K`zan> ww10:10
K`zanargh..10:10
shad-99So where can i set back or change permissions then?10:10
gdiebelcould someone recommend a avahi browser for kde?10:11
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DaSkreechshad-99: try remount it with a -uid=002210:11
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fdovinggdiebel: does kdnssd and zeroconf:/ in konqueror do what you want?10:19
shad-99OK... thanks guy10:21
shad-99but it didn't work out.. have to find other ways to solve this crap10:21
shad-99But thanks all of you for helping out here! ;)10:21
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DaSkreechshad-99: mounting it with a umask of 0022 doesn't work?10:23
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fdovingyou shouldn't mount removable devices as root.10:24
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DaSkreechfdoving: How do you mount them then?10:25
fdovingDaSkreech: with pmount as the user (which is member of the plugdev group).10:25
fdovingthe kde media handler uses pmount to handle this.10:25
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enryhu10:27
shad-99i don't.. but it won't let me access it cos i don't have permissions to do it?10:27
enryhi10:27
fdovingshad-99: it's mounted, but you're not given access to the contents?10:27
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shad-99yes that's right10:28
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fdovingshad-99: how was it mounted? by the kde automount-thing?10:28
shad-99yes i think so .. yea10:28
fdovingshad-99: ok, open a konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) then run: 'cat /media/.hal-mtab'10:29
fdovingshad-99: what does it say?10:29
shad-99i click on that konqueror meny and choose media and there it is.. and then click on it, and it wont letting me in?10:30
shad-99ok hold on10:30
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shad-99kdmeny is that terminal or what?10:34
alfonsohola10:34
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fdovingshad-99: kmenu is the K-button in the lower left corner.10:35
shad-99hahaha .. i am a newbie guy's.. take it easy ... LOL10:35
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fdovingthe K with the gear.10:36
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mardihi, my kubuntu 6.10 hangs at the shutdown spalsh screen, anyone know where i look to see what the problem could be?10:38
shad-99ahh10:38
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gdiebelfdoving: yeah i guess that will do nicely10:40
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posingaspopularmardi: ubuntu forums most likely10:42
mardilooking there now...10:42
mardithanks tho10:42
DaSkreechmardi: try removing the quiet designation on bootup10:45
DaSkreech also read dmesg10:45
mardidoes dmesg show messages from the previous shutdown?10:46
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shad-99it says... No such file or directory? cat /media/.hal-mtab?10:49
DaSkreechmardi: should10:49
DaSkreechfdoving: alt+space is faster10:49
shad-99should i put sudo in front of that line?10:50
binks!berly10:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:50
binks!beryl10:50
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:50
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mehhmm the link to realplayer 10 on https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.htl is broken.10:59
mehdoes anyone else know where i can get it?10:59
DaSkreechhtl?11:00
posingaspopularmeh: googlemaybe?11:00
posingaspopulari'll talk to people and make sure that gets fixed11:00
intelikeymy console is not reading any runtime configs when i open a new console.    any one know about these things ?11:00
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mehposingaspopular: yeah on to it11:01
posingaspopularmeh: hmmm works fine for me11:01
posingaspopularprobably that you wrote htl11:02
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mehposingaspopular: no the page works ok, but the link to realplayer 10 on the page doesnt11:02
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mehftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb11:02
mehthat one11:02
posingaspopularahhhh i see11:03
posingaspopularyou are correct11:03
intelikeyanyone know what i might try to get this thing to read .bashrc   or /etc/profile   when opening a console ?11:03
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intelikeyi get this kind of prompt "bash-3.00$"  and  "SHLVL=7"   eeek.11:05
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intelikey   SHLVL=3   for the first console opened with openvt ....    something is screwy here...11:06
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intelikeylogin gets  SHLVL=1   ......11:07
hyper_chintelikey: do you use feisty?11:07
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intelikeyhyper_ch no.11:08
hyper_chintelikey: ok... :(11:08
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intelikeyhyper_ch i could expect that out of feisty tho....11:08
crubeI need the command to check diskspace. I've forgottenit11:08
hyper_chwell, I was asking because of another problem... opera won't run anymore11:08
hyper_chcrube: you mean how much is used?11:09
crubeYeah11:09
hyper_chcrube: or do a filesystem check?11:09
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DaSkreechdf -h11:09
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crubeDaSkreech: That's what I was looking for11:09
nixHello everybody..11:09
posingaspopularfdisk -l11:09
posingaspopularcrube: i think thats it11:09
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crubeposingaspopular: df is the one I've been uring. I think it's a little more simple.11:10
crubeusing*11:10
posingaspopularhmm ive never heardof/used it11:10
hyper_chfdisk -l doesn't show how much is used... does it?11:11
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posingaspopularhyper_ch: i duno im on a windows box right now (router hates *nix for some reason) so i cant check11:12
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hyper_chposingaspopular: well it doesn't show it for me11:13
posingaspopularahh well you are most likely right11:13
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hyper_chposingaspopular: ^^11:14
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posingaspopularhyper_ch: it sucks. i have 3 computers with ubuntu, and i have to use windows for the internet connection...11:14
posingaspopularhow lame is that?11:14
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hackdaddy!midi11:16
ubotuTrouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo11:16
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AladinWas ist der Unterschied zwischen Zwischenspeicher und Pufferspeicher in der Anzeige der KDE-Systemberwachung?11:19
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fdoving!de | aladin11:19
ubotualadin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:19
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fdovingAladin: or you could always translate Unterschied zwischen Zwischenspeicher Pufferspeicher and Anzeige and Systemberwachung :)11:20
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berkesis there central changelog or log that tells me why packages are to be upgraded and what has changed?11:25
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yaccinis there an other program like checkinstalls which can make .debs?11:26
mkquistposingaspopular - just a quick thought, are you using dhcp on the router?11:27
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DaSkreechchangelog.ubuntu.com11:27
binksok can i use fdisc to format my usb device /media/disk11:27
berkesDaSkreech: txx11:27
berkeschangelog.ubuntu.com does not exist.11:29
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kaiser?11:31
posingaspopularmkquist: i don't know... how would i find out11:31
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posingaspopularand why is that information important?11:32
kaiseri need help: whats a gedti command for kubuntu?11:32
kaisergedit11:32
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davidkaiser:  kate11:32
kaiserthank you11:32
davidnp11:32
mkquistwhat kind of router?11:33
mkquistis this a home setup/11:33
mkquist?11:33
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mkquistposingaspopular - what kind of router?11:34
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posingaspopularyea its seimens speedsteam 410011:35
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posingaspopularhttp://subscriber.communications.siemens.com/subscriber_networks/4100.shtml11:36
posingaspopularit should work perfect with ubuntu11:36
posingaspopularthough according to SBC, the phone lines don't support linux11:36
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posingaspopularand sudo pppoeconf didn't work at all11:38
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yaccinis there another program like checkinstall which can make .debs?11:38
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mkquistposingaspopular - i dont see why the os would have anything to do w/that... i was just thinking that you might try assigning ip address to at least one of the computers and see if that helps11:39
mkquistposingaspopular - instead of using dhcp (which is that routers default) try opening http://192.168.254.254 in a browser window to access the router11:40
posingaspopularmkquist: i was going to use the windows machine as a gateway, see if that works,but not tonight11:40
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mkquistposingaspopular - ur router should be ur gateway if im not mistaken11:44
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posingaspopularmkquist: yea i duno too much about ip/gateway/router/dhcp ir anything11:45
posingaspopulari'll mess around with it later thoguh11:45
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posingaspopularthanks for the info11:45
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mkquistposingaspopular - do you have the routers book? if so just try static ip for one of the linux machines, see if that might help...11:46
posingaspopularmkquist: maybe i do... somewhere.....11:46
mkquistposingaspopular - had that problem once w/ubuntu install, doing that fixed it11:46
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mkquistposingaspopular - http://subscriber.communications.siemens.com/documents/4x00UG_English.pdf11:47
mkquistposingaspopular - just a thought... g/l11:47
posingaspopularahhh thanks mkquist i appreciate it11:48
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mkquistposingaspopular - thats it online btw (manual)11:48
mkquistenjoy11:48
posingaspopularsee the issue is that they give info on XP and OSX11:49
mkquistso what do they say?11:49
posingaspopularim going to WINE this internet connection....11:49
sonoftheclayrbut you've got us! what more could you want?11:49
mkquisthow would WINE help?11:50
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posingaspopularmkquist: my brother is a 'substantial contributor' to ubuntu and he was supposed to fix this stuff...but he fell asleep11:50
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mkquistwell, then im sure he'll get it fixed for ya... =)11:51
posingaspopularwell i live with him for a large portion of the year, so i know he wont....11:52
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gansinhohello, please, how do I change my kde dicionary, I like to use the system in english, but most of my text are written in portuguese, and apps like kmail don't correct my misspelling mistakes, I would like to change it.12:09
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posingaspopular:( thats a strange request. i dont know the answer, sorry12:12
gansinhoposingaspopular: thanks anyway12:14
posingaspopularnp, ask again if you can't get a response in a few minutes12:15
c1|freakygansinho: what spelling checking program do u use?12:15
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gansinhoc1|freaky: I haven't changed the kde default12:16
c1|freakyi dont know what the kde default is12:16
c1|freaky;D12:16
c1|freakywhatever it is just search for it12:16
c1|freakywith apt-cache search aspell12:16
c1|freakyf.e.12:16
c1|freakyand it will give u a list of spelling packages in different languages12:16
gansinhoc1|freaky: right now kde checks my spelling but not in the right language..12:17
c1|freakywait12:17
c1|freakyill look12:17
gansinhok12:18
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c1|freakygo to system settings --> local settings and language12:18
c1|freakyor something like that12:18
c1|freakyi have it in german12:18
c1|freakyand there under spell checking12:18
c1|freakyyou can change those settings12:19
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anti_pop why is it required to let the memtest run several hours and not only 1 cycle ?12:22
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gansinhoc1|freaky: I just have regional&language menu, and in there in the dictionarys I don't have portuguese, any idea how to install new ones?12:24
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edgyanti_pop: I guess each cycle test for different errors12:25
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anti_popedgy: ah ok thanks, do you know how many cycles i should run it? first gives no errors, each takes about 50 minutes, isnt it a endless test ?12:26
Blissexanti_pop: at lest 8-10 hours.12:27
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anti_popokay12:28
edgyanti_pop: and the first cycles would discover the important errors, think 80/20 rule12:28
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Betzeferany 1 needs help?12:31
anti_popthanks for your information, guys12:32
anti_popgotta go,m bye bye12:32
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juanola12:39
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c1|freakygansinho: the standard is aspell so do apt-cache search aspell and look for a spell dictionary in the langauge u want12:46
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gansinhoc1|freaky:  thanks a lot!12:47
c1|freakynp12:47
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tom_is this working01:02
tom_good01:03
xnitexhey i have a question, is it possible to theme out the kicker panel, etc etc?01:03
xnitex:] 01:03
posingaspopularxnitex: theme out the kicker panel...?01:03
posingaspopularummmm01:03
posingaspopulari mean, i dont know how to answer that01:03
xnitexto theme the kicker panel01:03
posingaspopularive never given that a though01:03
posingaspopularohhh01:03
posingaspopularchange the kicker panel to match a theme01:04
xnitexyes yes01:04
posingaspopularright click, properties.01:04
posingaspopularis all i can gues...01:04
posingaspopularlike i said, i havent given that much thought01:04
posingaspopularask in #ubuntu-effects, they might now01:04
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xnitexthnx01:06
xnitex:] 01:06
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posingaspopularnp. maybe someone here knows too, try asking again in a bit01:08
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aldinhow can i set up that if i right clikc on some gzipped file i have extract here... i have installed kde-core...01:28
aldinnot only extract to01:28
stamenhi01:29
stamenwhy when I have upgraded my xserver-xorg beryl can't work well01:29
stamenthis is for beryl01:29
aldinpardon... it was all about permisions, if i have rwx it it works..01:29
stamen when I start it the window it is flickering01:29
stamen I am running custom compiled kernel and I have preinstalled the drivers, what to do01:30
aldinstamen, try reloading window manager or window decoerator01:30
stamenI try to reload it with the beryl manager, but all is the samo01:30
stamensame01:30
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aldinstamen, did u reboot ur comp?01:33
aldinafter upgrade?01:33
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stamenI think I am not :)01:34
stamennow I get it :)01:34
aldinok, see u after reboot01:34
stamenok01:34
stamen:)01:34
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Betzeferany 1 needs help ?01:38
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lordofheathow to make konversation to auto connect when launched?01:47
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lordofheatI mean kopete01:47
lordofheatsry01:47
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binks!grub01:49
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto01:49
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Betzefer!fuck01:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:51
Betzeferlol01:51
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joheyWhen I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, GTK no longer adapt the skin from QT, even though I have selected that in the system setting tool. Why, and what can I do about it?01:52
fueljohey: reinstall qt-gtk package01:53
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joheyfuel: I find no such package.01:57
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fuel_!gtk-qt01:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gtk-qt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
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fuel_johey:  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/gtk-qt01:59
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joheyfuel: Ah, thanks alot!02:01
joheyWhy are apt-get "holding back" a lot of packages? How can I force them to be installed?02:02
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intelikeywhat's a gnome eq for kfax ?02:04
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intelikeySetting up x-window-system-core (6.8.2-10) ...02:05
intelikeybut still no startx command   ???02:05
intelikeybash: startx: command not found02:05
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binkssudo aptitude install xorg02:06
binkslol02:06
binksintelikey: how do i reinstall grub02:06
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intelikeybinks sudo grub-install /dev/<wherever>02:07
binks:) intelikey02:08
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ubuntu_hi02:10
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cox377when i try and mount a smb share02:15
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cox377i get this error02:15
cox37722082: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)02:15
cox377SMB connection failed02:15
cox377i've tried every password i know02:15
cox377well from the kubuntu share host and this kubuntu machine02:16
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cox377anyone got any ideas?02:17
intelikey#kubuntu died!    R.I.P.   #kubuntu      ;'(02:20
tarragonjust a suggestion but try mount -t smbfs -o username=yourusername,workgroup=<yourwkgrpname> //cox377/home /mnt/remotedrive02:20
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cox377tarragon: let me give it a go02:21
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cox377tarragon: doesit have to be // for my mount location?02:22
joheyHow can I solve this: kdelibs4c2a: Depends: kdelibs-data (< 4:3.5.6) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu7really3.5.5 is to be installed02:22
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tarragonyes i think so02:23
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intelikeyjohey install newer kdelibs4c2a ?      streighten out your sources.list ?     uninstall kdelibs4c2a  ?02:24
cox377tarragon: this is the msg i get02:25
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joheyintelikey: It might be because I tried to upgrade to feisty...02:25
cox377This command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving02:25
cox377the option '-t smbfs'. For example:02:25
cox377  mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test02:25
intelikeyjohey yep'rs02:25
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cox377intelikey: you got any ideas to my prob?02:28
intelikeyjohey you got a botched upgrade ?02:28
intelikeycox377 no sorry.  i'm network illiterate02:28
cox377lol02:28
cox377koolio02:28
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joheyintelikey: Well. I think I have made some very nasty things to my system. You know, I happened to install Dapper but I believed it was Edgy. Then I tried to upgrade it to Feisty, but it failed. Then I added quite some third party apt sources, dist-upgraded, removed, tweaked, added, dist-upgraded and so on... And now I really can't believe how I still can have a working system. :p02:30
intelikeycox377 but seeing that smb is not kde specific you could ask in #ubuntu02:31
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cox377intelikey: good suggestion02:32
cox377cheers02:32
intelikeyjohey yes sir, yes sir, three bags full.02:32
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joheyintelikey: However, now I believe I have made some things right anyway. It looks like the dependency problems are gone. :)02:32
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joheyBrb, hopefully.02:33
mrigns__!ping02:33
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stamenhi again02:34
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stamenberyl gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14377/02:35
stamenhow to fix it02:35
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bxnpstamen: where did you get that script that gives you this info02:36
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stamenin konsole02:36
intelikeywhat does   /etc/papersize  say ?02:36
stamenwhat to write in console to see02:36
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intelikeystamen sorry that wasn't for you02:37
stamenaa ok02:37
stamenbxnp: so, what to do02:38
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intelikey!beryl02:40
tarragonHow do I set up a Kubuntu for broadcasting Ad-hoc on wireless?02:40
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:40
wsjuniorRiddell: are u there? i'm looking for more info about this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/27954. could u help me? i'm experiencing this issue in kubuntu feisty fawn and edgy..02:40
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hanelthallo02:47
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ErunnoHi, where do I get help to get running compiz on Kubuntu feisty ?02:49
ErunnoErr, last sentence was kind of messup up but I hope you get the meaning ;-)02:50
binksErunno: why compiz beryl i s tops on kubuntu fiesty02:50
volton_www.ubuntuguide.org02:50
ErunnoSince beryl is being merged back into compiz and compiz is officially supported by Canonical I thought I might give that one a try02:51
binksyep but at the mo beryl works out the box on fiesty k*02:51
Erunnobinks: Even in Kubuntu ?02:52
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binksyes it rocks02:52
volton_isnt compiz included in feisty? you can activate it under system/settings/desktop-effects02:52
binkssudo aptitude install beryl and then run beryl-manager to start it02:53
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Erunnovolton_: I thought that's Ubuntu. Don't think composite will be supported at all in Kubuntu Edgy (at least in an one-click way)02:53
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hohaahello02:54
hohaals02:54
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binksErunno: correct thats in ubuntu not kubuntu02:56
hohaa02:56
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hohaawhy kubuntu 7.04could not suspend/?02:57
ErunnoHm, seems that Beryl won't run with ATI's fglrx drivers :-/02:59
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ErunnoCan somebody give me a positive that beryl isn't running with ATI binary drivers ?03:02
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hohaayes i can03:03
Ubuntulatorhey ppl03:03
hohaayou should down the ati driver03:03
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Ubuntulatorhow can i add an app to startup in kde ?03:04
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MenaWhy my swap part don't work ??!!03:05
ErunnoUbuntulator: Just add a link to ~/.kde/Autostart03:05
Menai have added a new Ram03:05
Menaand when i loged in ....03:05
MenaSo03:06
hohaa_how can i add an app to startup in kde ? click right botton03:06
HobbseeMena: new ram doesnt get added to swap03:06
HobbseeMena: swap is the physical file.03:06
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MenaHobbsee, How o add it refromate swap03:07
MenaHobbsee, ok03:07
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MenaTo*03:07
Hobbseeit'll be added to the ram, not to the swap03:07
Hobbseesee the total with free03:07
Menaohhh ok03:07
Hobbseeswap only gets used if the ram is all filled up.  and ram is faster03:08
MenaHobbsee, ok03:08
MenaHobbsee, :)03:08
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tarragonHow big should swap be? I was always told twice physical ram, but as physical ram gets huge is this still correct or is it a waste of disk space?03:09
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hohaa_How big should swap be? I was always told twice physical ram, but as physical ram gets huge is this still correct or is it a waste of disk space?yes03:10
Menatarragon, Good point03:10
Mena!bot >Mena03:11
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Mena!swap |tarragon03:13
ubotutarragon: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info03:13
Erunnotarragon: The size of the physical ram should be sufficient. You'll need at least that amount to hibernate03:13
Menai just went there and get the idea more :)03:13
don_jrI'm trying to install wine.  I get an odd error that I'm not sure how to resolve when I try to install.  http://pastebin.ca/428278   Any suggestions on how to resolve this?03:15
Ash-FoxI'm going to run a bunch of virtualized servers... What software do you recommend (that you've used) for doing such? I'm considering vmware-server right now.03:15
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ronaldo_bom dia03:16
Ash-Foxdon_jr, try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' first.03:16
ronaldo_alguem que fala portugues03:16
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tarragonI was thinking more of servers where I can have say 48G physical ram on a sun box.03:16
don_jrAsh-Fox alrighty, havn't tried that yet, thank you03:17
don_jrAsh-Fox that did nothing...lo03:17
Ash-Foxdon_jr, are you using winehq's wine repositories?03:18
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schwarzhMoin zusammen03:18
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Horsttest03:19
Horstgeht03:19
Ash-FoxTest failed.03:19
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don_jrAsh_Fox yes I am, when I use aptitude it tries to tell me to download the one from the ubuntu repo, even if I try that one i still get errors03:20
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Ash-Foxdon_jr, you have backports enabled?03:21
don_jrAsh-Fox I'm not sure what that means, so I don't know03:21
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maxesghost!swap |maxesghost03:21
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Ash-Foxdon_jr, they're a set of repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list, they're known to sometimes cause problems03:22
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don_jrAsh-Fox I can put my list in pastebin if you'd like, but someone gave me thier list last night that they use and say works.  They didn't know how to help me after that.03:25
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Ash-Foxdon_jr, got to go, must install a server now. BBL.03:26
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matrixhi afaik gnome now has an menu option to activate 3d effects for the desktop. where do i find this in kubuntu?03:26
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Hobbseematrix: install compiz-kde or gnome-kde03:28
Hobbseeer, sorry, beryl-kde03:28
Pupeno2Does anybody know how to manually run the update manager to go from Edgy to Feisty?03:28
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samandbethHow come every time I download a binary it downloads into Kate? It corrupts the file every time.03:30
Pupeno2samandbeth: right click->save as.03:31
Pupeno2samandbeth: otherwise, see how that binary file is being detected (as which mime type) and correct the mime-type to not use kate.03:31
samandbeththats an odd way to do it. thanks03:31
samandbethahh03:32
volton_"apt-get dist-upgrade" should do it, never tried it myself tho03:32
don_jrI'm trying to get wine installed and keep getting a dependency error: http://pastebin.ca/428278  Anyone have any suggestions?03:32
Pupeno2volton_: is that to me?03:32
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don_jrwhat's the command to check my ip?03:33
Pupeno2don_jr: ifconfig03:33
don_jrthanks03:33
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matrixHobbsee: i can't find a package kde-beryl03:34
Pupeno2don_jr: or, ip addr03:34
Hobbseematrix: beryl-kde.  not kde-beryl03:34
don_jrPupeno2 the ifconfig got it done, thank you03:34
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Pupeno2don_jr: yes, but I find ip to be nicer.03:34
don_jrpupeno2 Yeah, shows all your network devices with the ip addr.  I'll remember that03:35
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Pupeno2don_jr: it is also nicer for IPv6, and 'ip link' shows other useful information.03:36
matrixHobbsee: when i do apt-cache search kde beryl i get three hits. the only interesting seems to belibberylsettings0-kconfig - Settings library for plugins - Beryl Project03:36
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don_jrPupeno2 I'm not sure what ipv6 is, I'm rather new to linux as a whole and thus kubuntu aswell.03:36
Hobbseematrix: darn.  that used to exist03:36
don_jris the only diff between ubuntu and kubuntu the KDE interface?03:37
icecrunchercould anyone please tell me how to install kubuntu from the konsole using a live cd?03:37
Hobbseematrix: install beryl, aquamarine, etc03:37
Hobbseeicecruncher: dont think you can.03:37
icecruncherHobbsee: really? the graphical one always crashes03:37
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Hobbseeicecruncher: use the alternate cd03:37
Hobbseeicecruncher: the live cd doesnt have the alternate installer due to space03:37
Pupeno2don_jr: IPv6 is no-linux thing. IPv6 is the next generation of IP. The current version is 4, that is 127.0.0.1 is an IP of IPv4. IPv6 is a newer and much better protocol. It solves many problems of the poor and aged IPv4. ::1 is the same ip for IPv6.03:38
icecruncherHobbsee: ahh03:38
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Pupeno2don_jr: yes (re ubuntu vs kubuntu).03:38
Pupeno2don_jr: obviously, with that, all the config and managament tools are different.03:38
bronze_1_9icecruncher: place cd in drive, reboot, wait - when screen comes up click on the folder or icon labeled "install"03:38
shinobiis there any reason to use a live cd not a alternate cd for a standard install?03:38
don_jrPupeno2 Okay, I'm on a laptop here running kubuntu, I'm installing with the alternate install cd on my desktop right now03:39
don_jrafter I get KDE put onto it, how can I remove all the gnome stuff?03:39
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matrixHobbsee: perhaps you mean beryl-kubuntu?03:39
Hobbseematrix: ahh.  that's it03:39
Pupeno2don_jr: oh, that's tricky, but doable.03:39
icecruncherbronze_1_9: then what?03:39
Hobbseedon_jr: remove libgtk2.0-003:39
don_jrPupeno2 I may not worry about it, just thought it would help clear up some empty space to get it out.03:40
volton_OMG.. I'm running Ubuntu in VMWare and it's so incredibly slow03:40
Pupeno2don_jr: if I understand you correctly, you are running Ubuntu, installed kubuntu-desktop, and want to get rid of the old Gnome stuff?03:40
don_jrPupeno2 that is correct03:40
icecruncherbronze_1_9: that on a live cd?03:40
Pupeno2don_jr: it may be explained in the Kubuntu wiki, otherwise, if you can wait some time, let me write a short tutorial to do it.03:41
don_jrPupeno2 I appriciate the willingness to help out.  I have all the time in the world so do as you wish with it.  no hurry just trying to clear up some used space from the lap tops lil HD03:41
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shinobithere is a good instruction on how to remove any of the xcfe/kde/gnome you don't need03:42
don_jrok i'll look around for it03:43
don_jrthanks03:43
samandbethI'm trying to download a superkaramba theme. I managed to keep Kate from opening it, now Konqueror opens it as a text file. It's a .skz which is set to be opened by superkaramba. any ideas?03:45
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samandbeththat is, Konqueror has .skz associated with superkaramba03:46
shinobiuse kget03:46
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matrixHobbsee: now i have an kde version of the beryl manager. where do i activate it?03:47
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Hobbseerun beryl && aquamarine in konsole03:47
matrixHobbsee: no menu entry as in gnome yet?03:47
MenaWHat is the repo for opera in fiesty03:48
Hobbsee!opera | Mena03:48
ubotuMena: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser03:48
icecruncheranybody know when feisty beta c came out?03:48
Hobbseematrix: apparently not.03:48
MenaOk :)03:48
Hobbseeicecruncher: RC?  next week, sometime03:48
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MenaThere is no repo for operan and i also try to install opera from The official site i got opera crached every time i open it03:49
matrixHobbsee: okay now i have lost my window decorator03:49
Menafor Fiesty*03:49
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icecruncherHobbsee: I tried installing kubutu from a live cd but as soon as I assigned direcories to the partitions, it froze up, any suggestions?03:50
joheyIn the Edgy and Feisty version of gtk qt engine thingy, there is a minor glitch that I don't remember from Dapper. When using vertical scroll bar in GTK programs, the leftmost black border (1 pixel width) remains in its original position until the mouse button is released and the mouse pointer is moved over the scrollbar. It has been like this for a long while. Why? Can I do something about it?03:51
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Hobbseeicecruncher: no.03:52
icecruncherk03:52
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Mena, i tried befor to install ubuntu and i installed it as i guees or remeber03:52
Menaand when i try next time it was slow03:52
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Menabut i mount the swap part and it was a bit fatser and enables me to install it03:53
Menaenabled*03:53
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MenaSo maybe mountting the swap part would help a bit as i guess to make the load on Ram light03:54
LordOfHeathow to properly add msn contacts in kopete??03:54
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MenaThanks.....Thanks for help ...With GOD Bless ..03:55
MenaBye03:55
bronze_1_9icecruncher: after you click the install folder it pretty much runs itself.  you just aswer a few questions.  NOTE - it assumes you have a DHCP networked environment. (BAD boys!)03:55
icecruncherlol03:55
cox377LordOfHeat: what do u mean?03:56
don_jrbronze_1_9 how well does the manual config work out for the DHCP while installing ubuntu?  I had to manually do it, should it be connected to the router or will I probably ahve to do more once the install is done?03:56
icecruncherbronze_1_9: It's not that I cannot run the installer, but I cannot configure my partitioning.03:56
LordOfHeatcod377, well, I add a contact, and I see him as offline03:57
cox377LordOfHeat: very odd03:57
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N6REJgood easter weekend morning all03:58
icecrunchermonkey!!!03:58
icecruncheryeah, you too03:58
cox377LordOfHeat: have they accepted you?03:58
joheyAfter upgrading to Fiesty, digiKam is no longer translated to Swedish (default language in kcontrol). Why?03:58
cox377the contact you are trying to add?03:58
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LordOfHeatcox377, no auhorisation request on his side03:59
aaroncampbellwhat package gives me mod_rewrite for apache?04:00
crubeIs there a firefox plugin that could be used to watch video files inside the browser instead of downloading and opening them in the default video player?04:00
aaroncampbellactually, apache204:00
cox377LordOfHeat: might have to google it because there is not settings of such that i can see04:00
cox377crube: mplayer04:00
N6REJanyone have any idea why the audio for a webcam would work but the video device isn't found by camorama?04:01
crubeThat would propably be the "mozilla-mplayer" package04:01
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bronze_1_9icecruncher: what happens when you let it use the entire disk?04:02
aabrahao when kde is start how stop without login?04:02
icecruncherbronze_1_9: right now, the whole thing just crahed04:02
icecruncher*crashed04:02
bronze_1_9icecruncher: did you choose the default partitioning scheme?04:03
don_jrAnyone able to help me figure out my wine install problem.  when I try to install I get this funky error:http://pastebin.ca/428278   Any suggestions?04:03
bronze_1_9don_jr: there is no manual DHCP for feisty, AFAIK04:03
icecruncherbronze_1_9: the thing is I don't want it to use the entire disk, yeah04:03
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bronze_1_9icecruncher: what did you do?04:04
icecruncherbronze_1_9: nothing04:04
icecruncherlol04:04
don_jrbronze_1_9 I'm installing from the dapper alternate install cd, and it has it, cause I had to manually put in my ip and what not.  Just not usre if there's going to be more that will have to be done to get online once it's installed fully04:04
bronze_1_9icecruncher: what choices did you make for partitioning?04:04
icecruncherbronze_1_9: default04:04
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icecruncher(entire disk)04:04
bronze_1_9icecruncher:  and it crashed?04:05
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don_jrAdept = Synoptic in functionality?04:05
bronze_1_9don_jr: you may have to enter IP addresses for your DNS servers04:05
arachnisthuh, new kubuntu looks by default almoast like gentoo.org |> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5309/kubuntuyg2.png04:05
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icecruncherarachnist: it's the new KDE04:06
don_jrbronze_1_9 dns servers?  how would I figure out what that is to add it?04:06
Arwendon_jr, from your ISP04:06
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icecruncherarachnist: 3.6504:06
arachnisticecruncher: i doubt that kde by default is so violete/blue04:06
bronze_1_9don_jr:  what are you on the internet with right now? (machine and OS)04:06
aabrahao when kde is start how stop without login?04:06
bronze_1_9aabrahao: %rephrase  Please rephrase the question or clarify the scope|requirements of what you want04:07
don_jrArwen on this laptop I'm connected to my router. Running Ubuntu Dapper, not sure the exact version tell me how to get it and I'll give it to you.  I"m installing Ubuntu Dapper via alternate install cd on my desktop now.04:07
icecruncherarachnist: dunno04:07
bronze_1_9don_jr: cat /etc/resolv.conf04:07
don_jrbronze_1_9 ok04:07
Arwendon_jr, if you're behind a router, your DNS will probably be your router's IP04:07
bronze_1_9see the lines like >> nameserver 68.87.73.24204:08
bronze_1_9those are the IP's of your dns server04:08
don_jrArwen bronze_1_9 Alrighty, probably the routers 'gateway.2wire.net' then?04:08
aabrahaook, I installed kde in ubuntu 6.10 and vmware tools, the resolution appears fine, but when I log a black screen appears and come back to the login in kde. Any Idea?04:08
bronze_1_9don_jr: have no idea, cannot see your network from here, and I've never used an appliance style router04:09
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Arwendon_jr, dunno04:09
icecruncherwhat is that nayway, app style router?04:09
Arwendon_jr, but your dns server has to be in the format of w.x.y.z04:09
don_jrArwen bronze_1_9 probably that or the default gateway 192.168.1.104:09
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Arwendon_jr, try 192.168.1.104:10
bronze_1_9ja04:10
bronze_1_9good bet04:10
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Arwenmy DNS server is my router too :-\04:11
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Arwentoo bad it just forwards requests to my ISP, it'd be nice to have a real DNS server04:11
icecruncherbronze_1_9: earlier you said, hiot the install folder, where you talking about the live or alternate cd04:11
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bronze_1_9icecruncher: live04:11
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icecruncherbronze_1_9: cause  it' isn't working04:11
icecruncherlol04:12
bronze_1_9Arwen: you can have a local caching only DNS server.  It would be much faster than having your ISP do look ups.04:12
bronze_1_9icecruncher: no install folder?04:12
icecruncherbronze_1_9: of course, nothing happens04:12
bronze_1_9icecruncher: errm - which kubuntu are you installing? feisty, edge, or dapper04:12
icecruncherdapper, then will upgrade04:12
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bronze_1_9so you boot with the live cd, and get no screen?04:13
Arwenbronze_1_9, mm, I want a real DNS server to resolve LAN hostnames....04:13
icecruncherbronze_1_9: me?04:13
bronze_1_9icecruncher: yes04:13
Arwentoo bad good routers either use lots of power (real computer) or are expensive (yeah...)04:13
Pupenodon_jr: did you find anything useful regarding removing Gnome?04:13
bronze_1_9Arwen: your local DNS server will look in the /etc/hosts file first, so it can do that for you.04:13
icecruncherbronze_1_9: no no everything works, but not install04:13
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don_jrPupeno Yeah we're doin alright, thank you04:14
Arwenbronze_1_9, meh04:14
bronze_1_9icecruncher: perhaps the dapper live cd does not have an install capability.  You may have to use the install cd.04:14
Arwenbut what I really want is a router that sends un-allowed MAC addresses to goatse04:14
Arwenbronze_1_9, ^^04:14
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icecruncherbronze_1_9: wait, i tried again, just poped up, but i think it'l crash again04:15
matrixhow can i deactivate beryl again. looks like it is now started each time i log into kde. but without windowdecorater it's no fun04:15
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Arwenmatrix, um, do you have nvidia? you have to set default depth to 24 if you have nvidia04:16
Arwenthat should get your window decorations back04:16
matrixArwen: where to do so?04:16
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Arwen/etc/xorg.conf - I think it's either the display or the device section04:16
Arwenthere should be a line that says default depth <number> or something04:16
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matrixArwen: defaultdepth is 2404:17
bronze_1_9Arwen: If you use a Linux based firewall/router you can do that quite easily04:17
Arwenmatrix, huh, guess beryl ain't for you then - go to ~/.kde/autostart (I think) and delete all mention of beryl04:18
Arwenbronze_1_9, yeah, but having a linux box running 24/7 isn't cheap on the power04:18
bronze_1_9Arwen: who said dasktop? :-)04:18
bronze_1_9*desktop :)04:19
Arwenbronze_1_9, um...04:19
ArwenI don't have any servers or thin clients either04:19
Arwenand my router has 2MB of flash memory, so I don't think a firmware update is possible04:19
matrixArwen: ~/.kde/autostart is empty04:19
Arwenmatrix, huh.... do you remember the instructions you used to install beryl?04:20
bronze_1_9I'm using an old laptop. I actually tested its juice use with a kill-a-watt unit, in full "power concerve mode it runs less than one fifteenth what a desktop uses04:20
bronze_1_9The nice thing is - it has a built in UPS... :)04:20
Arwenbronze_1_9, but if you turn a laptop into a server you can't carry it around...04:20
matrixArwen: apt-get04:21
Arwenmatrix, um, try apt-get remove beryl ?04:21
bronze_1_9Arwen: right.  this is an old discard that I got for free from a local school.04:21
Arwenberyl shouldn't be autostarting, but that'll definitely prevent it from loading :-)04:21
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Arwenbronze_1_9, yeah, my only spare box is an ancient P2 box - no NIC04:21
bronze_1_9I use a PDA for "mobile computing"04:21
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bronze_1_9Arwen: Get the to Ebay... or - start jonesing people in your area for old lappy's04:22
matrixArwen: before i installed kubuntu-beryl which i already removed i could manualy activate beryl. now looks like i don't get rid of it.04:22
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don_jrUbuntu starting for the first time on my desktop.  now to see if it loaded everything correctly and get me back online04:22
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bronze_1_9Its amazing how very little it takes to run something like the ipcop or smoothwall distro's04:22
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Arwenbronze_1_9, yeah, but again - NIC.... no sense running a router with a crappy NIC04:23
JisaoI'm fed up of looking.  Where can I download an alternate cd image of Feisty?04:23
Powerking89670hey could someone help me, im having resolution problems04:23
bronze_1_9Arwen: hehe - there's no way your internet feed is going to saturate a 100Mb NIC.04:23
Arwenbronze_1_9, but local services?04:23
Powerking89670I just booted up Kubuntu and instead of my nice big resolution, im stuck at 800x60004:23
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Arwennote - streaming 1280x720 video is not easy on the bandwidth04:24
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bronze_1_9Arwen: I run my entire LAn (7 boxes) thru that laptop, - including video over the internet04:24
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don_jrAfter ubuntu runs through it's start up, loading the kernel and all of that, it goes to a black screen with a cursor in the top left corner that isn't blinking or moving.04:24
dell190good morning everyone04:24
Arwenbronze_1_9, again, I'm not concerned about my Internet access, that tops 1.5M max04:24
Arwenit's just that I use my LAN to shuttle large files04:25
bronze_1_9Arwen: it has one integrated NIC (on the MB) and one pcmcia Nic card.  Internally I use a dlink 8 port hub and a linksys 5 port hub to connect all the machine together to connect04:25
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bronze_1_9so I'm 100 MB wall to wall.04:25
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bronze_1_9when it comes to house equipment I'm Petey McCheapo!04:26
Arwenbronze_1_9, bah, you should wire your house with Fiber...04:26
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bronze_1_9Arwen: I shall never open a wall to run cable again.  MiMo Wifi is the next step.04:27
bronze_1_9(802.11n)04:27
Arwenbah, I'd never touch that Wi-fi junk, insecure, unreliable, and slow04:27
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bronze_1_9If building a new house I would put fiber in. But i've found its just not worth it to try to retro fit fiber in houses.  I'm too much of a perfectionist.04:28
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don_jrOkay, I can get my fresh install of dapper to boot up in terminal mode/recovery mode.  but when I try to run X it locks up on a black screen with no movement.  I'm running an nvidiaMX 4000 how can I get the proper drivers from terminal?04:31
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don_jrI guess I need to get it online first.  ping brings back 'host unknown'  where can I go from here?04:33
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bronze_1_9don_jr: you need to edit your network properties, put in dns server addresses and local IP addeesses etc.. IIRC.04:36
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bronze_1_9don_jr: I'm sorry i have to run right now. BBL.04:36
don_jrOkay, where do I find the properties to edit?04:36
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bronze_1_9Can some one with good networking here help don_jr  Please?04:37
bronze_1_9Arwen?04:37
Arwenbronze_1_9, hmm? I was afk04:37
bronze_1_9bronze_1_9> Can some one with good networking here help don_jr  Please?04:37
don_jrSomeone in #ubuntu is helping too.  between us all I'll get this running! lol04:37
bronze_1_9Arwen: ^^^^^^^04:37
bronze_1_9I have to go.04:38
bronze_1_9bacl later04:38
Arwendon_jr, ok, do you have a GUI? or are you trying to fix stuff from a console?04:38
don_jrI'm in console only, have to get online so I can install the proper invidia drivers to get X to work04:38
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Arwendon_jr, ah, do this "nano -w /etc/resolv.conf"04:39
don_jrall it says there is 'nameserver 192.168.1.104:40
Arwenhuh, darn it....04:40
Arwendon_jr, run ifconfig and pastebin the output04:40
Arwenlet's see if there's other errors04:40
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don_jrOkay, give me time cause I'll have to type it in manually here on the laptop04:41
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hyper_chhiho, how can one alter the kernel options?04:41
Arwenhyper_ch, /boot/grub/menu.lst04:41
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hyper_chArwen: hmmm, I guess that was not meant in that howto guide... I'm trying to install dm-crypt / luks (a debian guide) and in the beginning it says one need to make sure to set some kernel options04:42
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stdinhyper_ch: in /boot/grub/menu.lst, or you can do it at boot by pressing "e" (for edit) on the menu item and "e" again on the kernel option, edit it, then press "b" to boot04:42
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hyper_chstdin: have a look here (step 2) - http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-disk-encryption-with-dm-crypt-luks-and-debian - I have no clue how to make that... and I guess I have to make it because Step 6 fails :(04:43
dell190What is the command to mount a Windows Partition.. i forget :(04:43
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kumamotodell190: from console or GUI?04:44
stdinhyper_ch: ahh, that's refering to the options used to compile the kernel04:44
dell190Console \04:44
Arwendell190, mount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /mnt/<emptydir>04:44
hyper_chstdin: that means I would have to compile my own kernel?04:45
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Arwenhyper_ch, um..... maybe?04:45
stdinhyper_ch: if one or more of those options aren't already enabled, yes04:45
dell190Thanks04:45
hyper_chstdin: how do I check if thoe are enabled?04:45
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stdinhyper_ch: it can be difficult if you don't know where to look, all the options are in /boot/config-$(uname -r)04:46
don_jrArwen sorry for the time taken.  here is what ifconfig shows: http://pastebin.ca/42835904:47
Betzeferany 1 needs help ?04:47
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Arwendon_jr, ok, looking04:47
hyper_chstdin: thx04:47
stdinhyper_ch: try asking in #ubuntu-kernel they should know04:48
hyper_chstdin: thx :)04:48
Arwendon_jr, hmm, can you try this "ping -c4 72.14.207.99" ?04:48
Arwendon_jr, if you get ping replies, than your actual connection works, it's just your dns that's broken04:48
Arwenif not, then we have more problems04:48
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don_jrArwen got errors, none of it went through, Host Unreachable....  Let me try a different port on the router maybe??04:49
Arwendon_jr, no, that means your net connection isn't working04:50
Arwenbtw, you were pinging google back then04:50
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don_jrArwen okay, what do I check now?  The network card and cable i'm using now worked with winxp so they should be good...04:50
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Arwendon_jr, can you still get into Windows?04:51
don_jrnope, cleaned it off04:51
kumamotoArwen: not sure if this has been asked but he behind a NAT04:51
Arwenkumamoto, yes, he is04:52
kumamotonice04:52
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don_jrwow I can't even ping my router....that's a problem04:52
kumamotocan u ping your gw04:52
don_jrwhat's a gw?04:53
kumamotogateway04:53
Arwendon_jr, your default gateway04:53
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Arwenyou can't ping your router?04:53
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don_jrOMG I'm a dope, I put in ping with no peramiters...how do I stop it? it's on 79....lol04:53
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kumamotoCtrl +C04:54
Arwendon_jr, ctrl +c04:54
LjLdon_jr: ctrl+c04:54
LjL(which, incidently, is how you stop *any* well behaved program)04:54
don_jrthanks04:54
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Arwendon_jr, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces04:54
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don_jrIt won't ping my router/default gateway no.  Arwen alright, again, give time, doing this manually04:54
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kurtis there a gui way to set the refresh rate/resolution for the login screen? i am using standard kubuntu login04:56
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kumamotoI don't think so I think it is either a file to be edited or some xorg directive04:56
kumamotounless there is another way04:57
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don_jrArwen here ya go: http://pastebin.ca/42837104:59
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Arwendon_jr, hmm, darn it, it loooks like it woks05:00
ArwenI can't see any errors in it05:00
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kumamotodon_jr: is your router actually 192.168.1.105:00
Arwendon_jr, oh yeah ^^ - might it be 192.168.1.0 ?05:00
don_jrkumamoto it uses a name when I check it here05:00
Arwendon_jr, pick up your router and look at the labels on it - it should have its ip printed on the back or something05:01
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kumamotomake sure the nic that is connected pc through a switch or directly is actually 192.168.1.105:02
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don_jrArwen I'll double check but I"m sure that that's it.05:02
kumamotoi man the router's nic05:02
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joheyHow can I get Swedish translations for digiKam in Feisty? They were there in Edgy, but now they're gone.05:03
don_jrkumamoto the routers nic??05:03
kumamotoyeah u know router -> switch -> pc05:03
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kumamotodon't mean to cause any confusion05:04
don_jrkumamoto it's directly connected via cat5 to the router it's self05:04
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Betzeferwhy when i try to update my synaptic it unistalls it05:04
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kumamotoso is the cable cross connected or straight05:05
don_jrwhen I type route -n I get a destination of 192.168.1.0   is this correct? or should it be all 0's?05:05
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kumamotoah05:05
kumamotoactually it is right05:05
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Betzeferits correct05:08
abrahaohow can I see the disk space?05:08
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kumamotoabrahao: console or gui05:08
don_jrSo everything on my box is right it's just not reaching the router....bad cable?05:08
abrahao<kumamoto> console05:09
kumamotodf -h05:09
kurtthanks, i deleted all but my prefered resolution and refresh from xorg.conf, and that seems to have worked.05:09
kumamotokurt: nice I guess my hunch worked05:09
abrahao<kumamoto> just to know if was gui?05:10
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kumamotoabrahao: you probably use system utils05:11
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abrahao<kumamoto> thanks05:11
abrahaonow I in front of kde to login, when I log a blank screen appears and go bakc to login, any tip?05:12
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chuckHi, i've got a little problem with feisty05:13
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chuckwhenever i click log off, it just goes to a black screen and stays there05:13
kumamotoabrahao: no error message?05:15
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abrahao<kumamoto> no05:15
chuckanyone know what's wrong?05:15
abrahao<kumamoto> just a blank screen and back to login05:15
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don_jrreep going to get another cable to try it05:16
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kumamotoabrahao: can't tell of head unless I see the error if you can login remotely then look at the logs and pastebin it maybe someone can be off assistance05:18
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kumamotoor on the other hand someone else has encountered the same issue.05:19
abrahao<kumamoto> in front kde, how Can I go to console, before login?05:19
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don_jrI'm online!!  it was a bad cable.......how rediculous05:24
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don_jrNow that I'm online.  How do I get the nvidia drivers from a console only?05:27
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Arwennick collision wars?05:27
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PhinnFortkai: having fun?05:28
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cosmo_I am trying to open the adept manager but it keeps telling me "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." but I am not runing any other package managers, how do I fix this?05:32
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PhinnFort!lockfile05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lockfile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
Originoo1Ryiel: ps -A05:33
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bronze_1_9!nvidia05:33
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:33
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chuck!language05:33
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.05:33
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PhinnFortcosmo_: there's a file that package management programs create when they run, so others don't do run at the same time05:33
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PhinnFortcosmo_: if you are absolutely certain no other programs are running, delete this file: "/var/lib/dpkg/lock"05:35
PhinnFortcosmo_: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock05:35
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cosmo_thanks PhinnFort05:36
PhinnFortyw05:36
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thompawhat is the disk mount utility in kde?05:37
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PhinnFortthompa: konqueror?05:38
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PhinnFortthompa: try going to "media:/"05:38
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thompaPhinnFort: i know, im trying to find the utility to access partition, need to change permissions05:39
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thompakdf ithink05:39
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PhinnFortthompa: ?05:39
PhinnFortkdf only shows available disk space afaik05:40
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PhinnFortthompa: in the "system:/" kio slave you can see all partitions, etc.05:40
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PhinnFortchange permissions too05:40
thompaPhinnFort: I have an ipod, cant install podzilla , requares root access05:40
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PhinnFortthompa: "kdesu aptitude install podzilla"05:41
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PhinnFortthompa: and why not amarok?05:41
thompaPhinnFort: podzill is already on it, i just want to add a new module to /user on the ipod linux file system05:41
PhinnFortah, ok05:41
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thompaPhinnFort: its for storage only05:41
PhinnFortthompa: run "kdesu konqueror media:/"05:42
thompaPhinnFort: thanks, ill try it05:42
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thompaPhinnFort: hey that worked05:44
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don_jrOkay #ubuntu is getting spammed....05:44
thompaPhinnFort: do i have to add to fstab to make it permanent?05:44
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chuckok this is kinda annoying lol05:45
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thompaPhinnFort: what is the equivalent to this kdesu if i were to use gnome?05:45
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chuckcan someone ban kai or something? lol05:46
PF-Awaythompa: gdksu or something05:46
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jhutchins!kdesu05:46
PF-Awaythompa: i resent, gnome, sorry05:46
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:46
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thompaPF-Away: i guess with kdesu i can change the permissions so me.user has access05:47
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PF-Awaythompa: yes05:47
don_jrWow, I have added the nvidia repo to my list here and got the key, no how do I download the drivers I need to get X running?05:47
PF-Awaythompa: but now i need to go and eat05:47
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chuckgo away kai05:47
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sonoftheclayrchuck lol05:48
thompaPF-Away: it works im running konq. from gnome btw. thanks05:48
PF-Awaykai: please go away05:48
PF-Away!attack kai05:48
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about attack kai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
PF-Awaythompa: oh, ok05:48
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PF-Away!kick kai05:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kick kai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:48
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jhutchinsPF-Away: There is no kai in this channel.05:48
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PF-Awayjhutchins: he comes and goes05:48
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PF-Awaythere he is05:49
jhutchinsSo I see.05:49
PF-Away'part-spamming?;)05:49
sonoftheclayrthere he goes05:49
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jhutchinsMaybe he is having connection problems.05:49
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don_jrjust shut off the incomming outgoing messages05:49
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PF-Awayjhutchins: probably05:50
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PF-Awayjhutchins: and he's probably afk05:50
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cosmo_hmmm it's still giving me the same error, wonder what I have running that is causing that05:50
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don_jralright I have installed dapper from alternate cd on my desktop(on laptop now) but I have nvidia card and I cant' get X to run so I"m on console only, how can I fix this?05:50
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PF-Awaydon_jr: i do like to see when people i talk to disappear05:50
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PF-Away!nvidia | don_jr05:50
ubotudon_jr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:50
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don_jrPF-Away I've read that, it assumes you can get into gnome and I can't run X05:51
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Bennitytry kai!*@*05:51
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Hobbseei know....05:51
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PF-Awaydon_jr: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:51
BennityObviously.....05:51
PF-Awayfinally;)05:51
Hobbseethe banforwards are more complex05:51
PF-AwayHobbsee: ftw05:51
sonoftheclayrdon_jr: does your X just not start at all? mine did the same thing and i just reverted to the nv dirvers, if you get the nvidia drivers to work could you please tell me :)05:52
Bennityoh, actually, that is something I don't know about05:52
Hobbsee(and arent scripted)05:52
don_jrsonoftheclayr I've had them working before, just have to get X torun05:53
Hidanthat was one loonnggg list of joins and kicks... poor sod's probably not even at his computer.05:53
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don_jrPF-Away I'm running the xserver-xorg reconfigure, it's asking to use kernel framebuffer device interface....yes or no?05:53
sonoftheclayrdon_jr: oh, well i just get a blank screen and can't start X full stop05:53
PF-Awaydon_jr: just leave the default05:53
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don_jrsonoftheclayr yes I have the same problem rightnow, have to get X to start to get the nvidia drivers if I remember correctly05:54
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don_jrPF-Away thanks05:54
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don_jrPF-Away that's done, how do I try to start X or should I restart the computer?05:55
dell190is it possible to install a tar.gz file?05:56
PF-Awaydon_jr: a restart would be the easiest05:56
PF-Awaydell190: you need to compile it05:56
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dell190how would i do that ?05:56
PF-Awaydell190: you can use the program "kompile" to help you with it05:56
PF-Away!info kompile | dell19005:56
ubotudell190: kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 170 kB, installed size 904 kB05:56
PF-Away!compile | dell19005:56
ubotudell190: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)05:56
don_jrsonoftheclayr I'm restarting my computer now, havn't got the nvidia drivers yet, if X starts I'll let you know05:57
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terrestresomeone using 7.04b?05:57
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sonoftheclayrterrestre: yep05:57
PF-Awaydon_jr: try the envy tool05:58
PF-Awayterrestre: i use feisty, yes05:58
sonoftheclayrdon_jr thnx05:58
don_jrPF-Away I may do that if I can get X to run or tell me how to do it from console if it doesn't work....we'll se, it's loading up now05:58
terrestresorry but i dont really speak english, but i understand a littl :).. im tryng to get work some webcam05:58
PF-Awaydon_jr: i think it needs X05:58
PF-Awayterrestre: where are you from?05:59
mrignsis it possible to mount apple's *.img image files?05:59
terrestrechile05:59
terrestrenear to argentina05:59
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PF-Awayspanish?05:59
PF-Away!es | terrestre05:59
ubotuterrestre: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.05:59
terrestrejaja thanks05:59
PF-Awaymrigns: i think so, yes05:59
don_jrokay didn't work yet, X still won't start, will have to reconfigure again I think, not sure, this time it's doing somethinginstead of hanging05:59
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terrestresorry that was my laght in spanish, jajaja, english haha06:00
PF-Awaymrigns: try "sudo mount /path/to/img.file /path/to/mountpoint -o loop"06:00
PF-Awayterrestre: ah, ok;)06:00
sonoftheclayrterrestre lol06:00
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mrignsPF-Away: already tested it, does not work06:00
PF-Awaymrigns: what does dmesg | tail say?06:01
mrignsaaaah i dont want to waste a dvdr06:01
mrignssec06:01
ubuntu_anybody using feisty beta c yet?06:01
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PF-Awayi'm using feisty06:01
ubuntu_beta c?06:01
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PF-Awayubuntu_: c?06:01
ubuntu_chck the header06:02
mrignsPF-Away: do you know windings font under windows?06:02
yaccini bought a new soundcard and now i dont have sound .(06:02
mrignsit just looks the ame way06:02
PF-Awaymrigns: yeah06:02
PF-Awaymrigns: ...06:02
PF-Away!sound | yaccin06:02
ubotuyaccin: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP306:02
terrestrenobody talking at ubuntu channel or kubuntu-es06:02
PF-Awayterrestre: wait a bit, maybe06:03
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mrignsPF-Away: http://www.pastebin.ca/428453 it converted the letters though06:04
mrignstry to read it with your magical powers!06:04
mrignsMAGICAL POWERS!06:04
mrigns^^06:04
PF-Awayhehe06:04
PF-Awaymrigns: i think something is severely wrong with your konsole06:05
PF-Awaycan you see the letters you type?06:05
mrignsof course06:05
yaccinyaccin@Hephaistos:~$ tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat06:05
yaccinMixers:06:05
yaccin0: SigmaTel STAC9721,2306:05
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yaccinthats my old soundcard06:05
yaccini disabled it in bios :(06:05
mrignsits only the output of that file06:05
PF-Awaymrigns: try just dmesg06:05
mrignseth0 etc bla bla06:06
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PF-Awaymrigns: what's at the bottom?06:06
mrigns[102541.255743]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!06:06
mrignsbecause of the dvd-r that in my drive06:07
mrignsits empty06:07
terrestresomeone are using a wifi internet connection? the wepkey reset any timde that I reboot, its that normal, or Im did something wrong or I need to put the key into the kwallet?06:07
PF-Awaymrigns: are you sure that file is valid?06:07
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don_jrPF-Away I've run configure xserver-xorg twice now, still won't run X, what settings should I use since I don'thvae proper nvidia drivers?06:07
PF-Awaymrigns: can you run "file [filename.img] "?06:07
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c0de7Gnome rulez! :P06:07
mrignsAVCD_23271B.img: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'AVCD_23271B06:07
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mrignsit did that all before06:07
PF-Awayc0de7: you suck!06:08
PF-Away;)06:08
PF-Awaymrigns: try installing AcetoneISO06:08
PF-Awaymrigns: from kde-apps.org06:08
mrignswhats this?06:08
PF-Awayit's similar to the windowsian Daemon-tools06:08
PF-Awayit helps with mounting disk images06:08
sonoftheclayrterrestre: you run feisty yes? i have to reset everything after i reboot too, i hope it will be fixed soon06:09
mrignsso its a frotend?06:09
mrignsif yes, id dont need because i know how to mount images :D06:09
PF-Awaymrigns: yeah06:09
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PF-Awaymrigns: you might be doing something wrong, though;)06:09
sonoftheclayrmrigns: check out this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=221682306:09
terrestresonoftheclayr: oh, thanks, yeah its a bit annoying06:10
mrignssonoftheclayr: lol06:10
sonoftheclayrterrestre: i just don't reboot :)06:10
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PF-Awaydon_jr: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive xserver-xorg"06:11
PF-Awaydon_jr: it should configure it automatically06:11
mrignsi already said it does not work like it should, but the md5 check sum is correct06:11
terrestresonoftheclayr: jajaja, thats because my webcam, freeze the kernel06:11
don_jrPF-Away will try that next after this reboot, trying the 3rd time! lol06:12
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PF-Awaydon_jr: ;)06:12
tristanmikeHello, I'm trying to scan a hard drive to see if it has errors, but i'm not sure how. I'm in a LiveCD, can someone point me in the right direction ?  Thanx in advance.06:12
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PF-Awaytristanmike: fsck06:13
mrignssonoftheclayr: i mean this guide has nothing to do with my problem. the filesystem isnt even ntfs but hfs06:13
icecrunchercould anyone please help me write a script to ubpdae the system?06:13
tristanmikePF-Away: ok, what command do I use first to see the partitions06:13
sonoftheclayrmrigns: sorry, i just skimmed over it06:13
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mrignsnp06:13
tristanmikePF-Away: I have to mount it first, right ?06:13
PF-Awaytristanmike: fdisk -l, i believe06:13
PF-Awaytristanmike: no06:13
tristanmikeok06:13
don_jrPF-Away done with the noninteractive config, restarting now06:14
tristanmikebrb, going to test, computer is downstairs....thanx06:14
PF-Awaydon_jr: hopefully this will work06:14
PF-Awaydon_jr: it won't be very optimised or anything, though;)06:14
dell190is there a easy guid to Compiling?06:14
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PF-Awaydell190: use "kompile"06:14
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dell190i tried that... but i dont see it anywhere in the K-menu06:15
don_jrPF-Away I don't care bout that, I can get nvidia loaded right once I get gnome up06:15
PF-Awaydell190: is it installed?06:15
PF-Awaydon_jr: you on gnome?06:15
PF-Away*shrug*06:15
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don_jrPF-Away I think that's the default of dappers alternate CD it didn't give me the choice to change it.06:16
icecruncherto make a script executable do you have to start it with #!/bin/bash or without the '#'06:16
CavemaaaanHello...I'm at my wits-end trying to get my Edgy-Eft to display 1280x720@60Hz...all Nvidia GF 6150 drivers installed via Envy....any good ideas?06:16
erz-hi, everybody i just moved on kubuntu very nice nice nice ! network is running good, vnc is good, beryl is very amazing ! i loved that =)06:16
don_jrPF-Away and my screen is just black now....nothing showing at all....maybe I need to dissable the onboard graphics card first?06:16
PF-Awaydon_jr: ubuntu has gnome as default, kubuntu has kde06:16
dell190PF-Away: i used Adept and it downloaded and i am assuming it automaticly installed06:16
PF-Awaydon_jr: this is weird...06:16
PF-Awaydell190: try hitting ALT+F206:16
PF-Awaydell190: type in "kompile" and hit enter06:17
tristanmikePF-Away: in the live cd, fdisk -l doesn't bring up partitions, and I'm trying it on a Windows disk, is there anyway I can check it. Sorry, should have given you all that info first06:17
don_jrPF-Away do I need to dissable my onboard video?  I think that's what it's reverted to06:17
terrestreerz-: i want to put beryl too, yestaday i was using ubuntu06:17
PF-Awaydon_jr: maybe06:17
PF-Awaydon_jr: i think it's a bios thing06:17
icecruncherwhat is the alternetive for gksudo in kubuntu???06:17
Hobbsee!kdesu06:17
ubotuIn KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo06:17
PF-Away!kdesu | icecruncher06:17
ubotuicecruncher: please see above06:17
erz-terrestre: its very simple just follow step by step kubuntu guide on beryl .... =)06:18
dell190PF-Away: it gives me an error message06:18
icecruncherthanks06:18
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don_jrPF-Away I've gotit dissabled in the bios....crud I've had it running on this machine before, exactly as it is now, just don't remember exactly how I did it06:18
terrestreerz-: are you using emerald o aquamarine?06:18
PF-Awaydell190: what?06:18
erz-just have a question about amarok and crash with taglib & network drive06:18
erz-terrestre: emerald06:18
terrestreerz-:  do you are using? jaja sorry for my english06:18
erz-terrestre:  i m french too =)))))06:18
terrestreerz-: im latinamerican06:19
terrestre;)06:19
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tristanmikePF-Away: in the live cd, fdisk -l doesn't bring up partitions, and I'm trying it on a Windows disk, is there anyway I can check it. Sorry, should have given you all that info first06:19
erz-terrestre: shit terrestre is a french work to say sth is on the earth06:19
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dell190PF-Away: You have forgot to specify a valid sources tarball or specified file isn't a valid sources tarball!06:20
terrestreerz-: in spanish mean the same thing :)06:20
Cavemaaaananyone veeery good at monitor detection problems?06:21
erz-terrestre: so lets go install it its very easy and really amazing =)06:21
terrestreerz-: the last time that I use kubuntu aquamarine had a more kde-like06:21
cosmo_I am trying to run the adept package manager but it keeps giving me a message of "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one" I have tried running sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock but it still gives me the error, I restarted the machine and I havn't started any other package managers that I know of06:21
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terrestreerz-: yeah, i have in ubuntu edgy, but im tryng to resolve some problems first, the webcam freeze the kernel and the printer put the document out of center06:22
erz-terrestre: whats do you want to say =) its the first time i use kubuntu ... before was on command line debian for server06:22
compilerwriter1Anyone know how to get a Toshiba Satellite's internal wirless device to work with edgy?06:23
compilerwriter1s/wirless/wireless06:23
erz-terrestre: doesnt have those kind of problem just busy with amarok collection crash when import collection from a network drive06:23
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icecruncherI'm trying to update my sytem with a self-made script.. how can i tell aptitude in the script to accept every question it throws at me??06:24
terrestreerz-: maybe my info its a little old, like 2 month old, but emerald is the window decorator and have a lot of "style" but more gnome type, and the aquamarine people its tryng to do a more kde style, decoration06:25
icecruncheranyone?06:26
joheyHow do I configure the language of digiKam? Before I updated my system, it adapted the global regionality settings, but now it runs in English no matter what. I'm using digiKam 0.8.2 with Kubuntu Fiesty and KDE 3.5.5.06:26
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erz-terrestre: ok... but defenitly i dont care of "style" i loved that cube and how is it workable06:27
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terrestreerz-: you know what? im a lit scare of install debian, hahah, to many question06:27
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terrestregoogling I found a solution for my webcam problem compiling spca5xx, the weird thing is that spca5xx its already installing by default06:31
dell190i tried using Kompile, and it said i need to do it manually06:31
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icecruncherwhat is the linux command for shutdown?06:34
terrestresudo shutdown now06:35
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terrestre;P06:35
icecruncherlol06:35
icecruncherinclude the now?06:35
terrestreyeah06:35
terrestrebeacause you can give time06:35
terrestreor other option06:35
icecruncherahh06:35
icecruncherk06:35
icecruncherthanks06:35
terrestreand to reboot sudo shutdown -r now06:36
terrestrein same place thay said that was better of sudo reboot, i dont know why06:36
terrestresome place, no same06:37
NamShubis there some kind of bug in rsync over smbfs or is it supposed to be so slow...?06:37
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NamShublike... 15k/s max06:38
NamShubat this rate it will complete in about 2 month i guess hehe06:38
erz-nobody knows about amarok crash due tu taglib error06:39
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dell190i need to install firefox, and i have the TAR.gz file.. i cant install it, i tried kompile and it still don't work, any other options??06:41
Raven301dell190: sudo apt-get install firefox06:42
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dell190that takes too long to download.. i am on dial up06:43
terrestrewhat step are you doing?06:44
terrestrewhat said the configure06:44
erz-have just a problem with accent in my mounted network drive06:45
yaccin!splash06:45
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.06:46
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yaccin!bootsplash06:46
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:46
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erz-whats wrong i added to fstab : //192.168.1.2/STK1     /home/server/MP3     smbfs     defaults,nls=utf8,gid=46... and i haven't  06:46
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terrestreerz-: i do it different06:47
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terrestreerz-: i tried that way but its was to many headach to me06:48
Raven301brb new kernel reboot to 2.6.20.606:48
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erz-terrestre: my hdd is avaible ... i can read mp3s on it .. i can play it in amarok ... but they appears with missing accent ...06:49
terrestrethat mp3 are in windows06:49
terrestreI have accent problem too, do you mean this kind of accent? `?06:50
erz-for sure ...06:51
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erz-my mp3s drive is on my other computer running windows XP and NTFS ... but works great with smbfs ... just a problem of char encoding06:52
terrestreyeah, that happend to me too06:52
terrestremany times,06:52
terrestrewith some films too06:53
erz-in fact i think i have a problem06:53
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erz-i have specified char iso and many thing in smb.conf ..06:53
erz-but nothing happend06:53
terrestretheres a OS problem06:53
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erz-oO ?06:54
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terrestredo you see this ?06:54
erz-yes06:54
erz-like    06:54
terrestreyeah, but sometimes its weird funny on files06:55
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terrestredo you know how i do the samba thing? I open konqueror and write smb://192.168.0.xx06:56
warren_super noob here... anyone know how to get open gl working in feisty with a TNT2 card?06:56
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terrestreand I dont have to setup or download anything06:56
erz-terrestre: yeah i know ... but i want to use harddrive mount in amarok to have my mp3 collection in06:57
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terrestreerz-: thats because, you are a debain man hahaha06:57
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warren_anyone know why the restricted driver manager shows the "nvidia legacy" driver, but the status is stuck at "needs computer restart" even though I have restarted several times?06:58
hannesduckWhere can i activate the 3d components in feisty06:58
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Daisuke_Idorestricted driver manager?06:59
warren_hannes... system>administration>desktop effects06:59
erz-terrestre: lol =)06:59
warren_sorry06:59
warren_preferences06:59
hannesduckhmm in kde?06:59
terrestreerz-: maybe you can help me, is a little embarrazing but I dont use samba to connect to windows , I connect to other linux06:59
warren_oh right, im in the wrong channel.06:59
warren_super noob here... anyone know how to get open gl working in feisty with a TNT2 card?07:00
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erz-terrestre:  i'm a linux noobie07:01
Daisuke_Idoum...  does the tnt2 even support opengl?07:01
terrestreerz-: I read that i have to use nfs, but i could'nt07:01
terrestreerz-: oooh, lets, se im in linux like a year, and you?07:01
erz-terrestre: i read that too ... but i have only one unix system in my network =)07:01
warren_yeah, it does... it did i dapper07:01
Daisuke_Idonvidia-legacy drivers?07:02
erz-terrestre: not very on  ... just when i need it for server ... just basic command line =)07:02
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erz-always trying to solve problem when im on linux07:02
warren_well, thats what ubuntu says my card is... not sure if that is waht ti actuall is... yeah, the legacy drivers are installed07:02
Daisuke_Idodon't have the slightest idead07:03
Daisuke_Ido-d07:03
aaroncampbellwhat package gives me mod_rewrite for apache2?07:03
terrestreerz-: yeah, thats why im on ubuntu, its much easier07:03
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warren_the restricted driver manager says "needs computer restart" although I have restarted several times07:03
Daisuke_Idoubuntu's easier than...  linux.07:03
Daisuke_Idowarren_: what restricted driver manager?07:04
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hannesduckhow can i activate compiz in kubntu feisty?07:04
warren_on feisty...system>administration>restricted drivers manager07:04
terrestreeasier than... gentoo!! hahaa im scare with gentoo07:04
Daisuke_Idowarren_: in KDE?07:04
hannesduckgentoo is really cool07:04
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hannesduckyes in KDE07:04
hannesduckbut no flame here :)07:04
erz-terrestre: totally agreee .. but right now amarok & konqueror are still freeze (for 20 minutes already) ...07:04
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warren_no, im using gnome07:04
Daisuke_Idono, that's gnome07:04
Daisuke_Idok07:05
warren_lol, but this channel seems to be the only one with people nice enough to respond07:05
Daisuke_Idothis is a kde-centric channel, and not prepared for most feisty issues :\07:05
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Daisuke_Idoyour best bet would be, say, #ubuntu+107:05
warren_yeah, any idea of a good gnome centric07:05
warren_thanks07:05
Daisuke_Idowhich is designed for feisty07:05
warren_#ubuntu+107:06
terrestreat least you still can stay using the chat, konversation?07:06
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erz-terrestre:  whats the command to see all pid and proc :D dont remember and i just wann kill amarok =))07:08
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terrestreerz-: I dont know, i just know one, sudo killall amarok, for example07:08
Daisuke_Idoerz-: killall amarok07:08
terrestrebut sometimes didnt work07:09
erz-ty07:09
Daisuke_Idoand killall amarokapp07:09
Daisuke_Ido(two parts to amarok)07:09
erz-gonna try it thx07:09
terrestrehow I can know the exact name of the process? i mean killall amsn, never work07:09
erz-seems working but amarok still launched07:10
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erz-woot ... worked07:11
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terrestresometimes i just use, ctrl+alt+.............backspace07:11
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erz-works great =)07:14
terrestrejajajaja07:14
terrestrewhat happend?07:14
erz-all closed =)07:14
erz-hum trying to use mysql instead of sqlite07:15
terrestrethats help some times, and dont have to reboot the entire system07:15
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terrestrei dont know nothing about sql haha07:16
erz-i will try http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo07:17
terrestreerz-: wait, do you use the tap thing in beryl?07:17
erz-is it mysql server with fresh kubuntu ?07:17
terrestrethats is very impresive07:17
erz-terrestre:  the "tap thing" ?07:17
terrestrei dont know the tecnichal name of that07:18
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terrestrebut when the windows spin07:18
terrestremmm spin its not the word haha07:18
terrestrebut there is a windows for one side, and another windows in the other07:18
crazy_penguinHello to all!07:19
erz-the cube ?07:19
terrestreno07:19
terrestremmm do this07:19
terrestreopen to windows, like konverstion and konqueror07:19
terrestre2 windows07:19
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erz-hummm07:21
erz-not now i have again a freeze07:21
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terrestremmm07:21
terrestrebut do you still can open windows?07:22
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terrestreerz- ?07:23
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donovanhey there,07:23
terrestremmm07:23
erz-well07:23
terrestrelook like a real amarok problem07:23
erz-i have two Konqueror opened07:23
terrestremm07:24
erz-terrestre: yeah amarok freezing and crashing07:24
terrestreo right07:24
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terrestremm but open something else07:24
donovani get a seg fault each time i try to launch opera since i've made the last apt-get upgrade (kubuntu feisty)07:24
terrestresamething different07:24
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terrestreits look better in that way07:24
terrestre2 different programas07:24
donovanany ideas?07:24
erz-terrestre: right07:25
terrestrenow07:25
terrestrewindows key + s07:25
terrestrelthe letter s07:25
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erz-do anything07:26
terrestrestay that 2 keys and do a click with you mouse and one windows07:26
terrestrethe windows its turn grey07:26
terrestrework the first part?07:26
erz-nop07:26
terrestreits beryl activating?07:26
erz-sure07:26
terrestremmm07:27
erz-maybe not the option in beryl manager07:27
terrestrethe windows key + s more a click on one windows07:27
erz-nop : /07:27
terrestremmm07:27
don_jr__There was someone else here needing help getting nvidia drivers to work...you still here??07:28
terrestreand the windows key + tab?07:28
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don_jr__I just installed dapper from alternate CD it defaults to gnome, how do I install KDE and remove gnome?07:29
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terrestresudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:29
terrestresudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop07:29
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terrestreactually the last first07:30
riki46ma de ch07:30
don_jr__terrestre thanks07:30
terrestreerz-: ?07:31
erz-what ?07:31
erz-[19:29]  <terrestre> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop07:31
erz-[19:29]  <-- gemidjy_ a quitt ce serveur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)).07:31
erz-[19:29]  <terrestre> sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop07:31
terrestreno07:31
erz-u want i do that07:31
terrestrethat was for don-jr07:31
Cavemaaaanyes i'm still here...need nvidia help07:31
erz-xD07:31
Cavemaaaanhi don_jr07:32
terrestrethat unistall the sistem07:32
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terrestresystem07:32
don_jr__Cavemaaaan what's your problem with it, will X run at all for you?07:32
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terrestreerz-: http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=92 this efectt07:32
Cavemaaaanyup runs great07:32
don_jr__just need to install the nvidia drivers?07:32
terrestreCavemaaaan: do you use the wiki how to?07:33
Cavemaaaanjust whatever i have tried for a week now, i cannot get better than 800x600 res on my 1280x720 hdtv using the analogue computer input07:33
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Cavemaaaani used the Envy installer to install the nvidia 9755 drivers07:33
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Cavemaaaanand i get the brief nvidia splash screen during startup07:34
Cavemaaaani have the nvidia config program in my system menu also07:34
don_jr__hmmmm, it should be installed.07:34
Cavemaaaanbut nothing anywhere allows me to get better than 800x60007:34
Cavemaaaanit's like kubuntu just auto detects my tv incorrectly everytime07:35
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don_jr__put your xorg.conf in a pastebin forme07:35
cosmo_whenever I try to run the adept package manager it gives me an error message that says "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one"07:35
cosmo_I have not started any other package managers and I even tried07:35
cosmo_Code:07:35
cosmo_sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock07:35
cosmo_ how do I find what other program is running and shut it down?07:35
Cavemaaaani currently am running winxp on the same input via a kvm and it runs great with same exact hardware at 1280x72007:35
don_jr__How do I add repo's so it won't ask for a disk anymore when I'm trying to get stuff?07:36
Cavemaaaanfor a lil bkgrnd, i have to brand new exactly the same computers attached to a kvm using this tv as my comp monitor07:36
don_jr__hmmmm I just used envy and it worked great.  let's see your xorg.conf file, could be in there07:37
Cavemaaaani have done this same scenario for two years now with my older computers07:37
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terrestreerz-: did you saw the video?07:37
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don_jr__hmmmm, dont' know what that's about07:37
terrestredid you see, sorry07:37
Cavemaaaandamn i don't have my linux box shard with my winxp box yet and i'm on the winxp box right now07:37
don_jr__not the problem I saw earlier, and not sure how to fix that one....odd07:37
sam123i need to know the defualt installation directory of java so i can put a plugin there, i install java using sudo apt-get install07:38
Cavemaaaanso i can't get a copy of the xorg.conf to ya07:38
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Cavemaaaanhey don_jr, are you usually on here? i have to go to easter dinner pretty quick here...but if you'll be on later tonight or tomorrow, i can try to get the data for ya to peruse07:39
sam123can someone help me?07:39
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erz-terrestre: will try after07:40
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terrestreits a impresive effect07:41
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sam123 i need to know the defualt installation directory of java so i can put a plugin there, i install java using sudo apt-get install07:43
don_jr__Cavemaaaan I'll be on a bit later tonight and maybe tomorrow, not sure07:43
don_jr__Can anyone here tell me how to get it so that aptitude/apt-get doens't ask for the cd? how to add repo's?07:43
Cavemaaaanokay don...thanks very much07:43
don_jr__Cavemaaaan Anytime, have a good evening!07:43
sivajisam123 : /usr/local07:43
Cavemaaaanyou too :)07:43
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sam123sivaji: and what exactly is usr/local i type cd /usr/local  and it couldnt find the dir, my username is sam, so it should be /sam/local ?07:45
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sivajino i am not sure about dir but it is somewhere in /usr/local07:46
terrestreCavemaaaan:  do you use, feisty o edgy?07:46
don_jr__Any help on keeping apt-get/aptitude from asking for a cd?07:46
sivajisam123:no i am not sure about dir but it is somewhere in /usr/local07:46
tuco_I am typing "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to check that the ATI drivers are used for Beryl, but nothing happens. Why?07:47
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terrestretuco_: do you use, ubuntu or kubuntu?07:48
tuco_Kubuntu Terrestre07:48
terrestredon_jr__: do you want add a cd?07:48
terrestregksudo its for ubuntu07:48
tuco_ah07:48
terrestrey gedit tb07:48
don_jr__no, want it to stop asking for a CD when I use apt.  It want's the install CD and I don't want it to ask forit07:48
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tuco_so I need to change the line?07:48
whitedoggiehey - just downloaded the newest beta of kubuntu, but for some reason, konqueror does not work... is this a known bug?07:48
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terrestreand your case, sudo kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:49
tuco_ah ok let me try :-)07:49
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tuco_yep that's it...thanks Terrestre. I have managed to install Beryl (goodness me) so far, so I am trying to see if it works at all now!07:50
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vbvbhi all07:50
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vbvbi need help07:50
vbvbit s the first time to use kubuntu07:50
terrestretuco_: nice tuco, http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=92 cheack out this effect with beryl ;)07:51
vbvband i can t setup the lan network07:51
cosmo_how do I install a tar.gz file?07:51
don_jr__vbvb go into a console and type in ifconfig and tell me what it says07:51
vbvbnow i speak from winxp07:52
vbvband i need restart my computer to use kubuntu07:52
vbvbyou understand me?07:52
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tuco_Ooops O just wet my pants watching that terrestre :-)07:53
vbvbdon jr:are you know how to use windows xp?07:53
terrestreerz-: read the tuco cooment07:53
terrestretuco_: yeah, i feel the same thing the firstime too jaja07:53
terrestrevbvb: do you have internet conecction in kubuntu?07:54
vbvbno07:54
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vbvbi want to know how?07:54
don_jr__vbvb yes I have an XP box07:54
vbvbiok07:54
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don_jr__vbvb but if you can't get onto Kubuntu to look at things and still behere it's goingto be difficult07:55
vbvbwhen i want to setup connection in xp07:55
vbvbplease speak me firstly07:55
terrestredo you want to setup your xp conecction?07:55
vbvbno07:56
don_jr__vbvb you have the connection on XP but cannot get it to work on Kubuntu correct?07:56
vbvbya that s right07:56
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don_jr__Okay, you'll need to manually change your IP and gateway most likley, gonna be hard to walk you through it if you cannot do it right now with me07:56
vbvbi want conniction  using abroadband conction07:57
vbvbisp name07:57
vbvband password07:57
vbvblike xp07:57
don_jr__are you directly connected to the modem? or through a router?  even with XP on broadband it shouldn't ask for name and pw every time you use it.07:57
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supernix /j #nvu07:58
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supernixAnyone here using NVU ?07:59
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don_jr__I don't even know what nvu is07:59
don_jr__sorry07:59
supernixnp thanks for the reply07:59
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vbvbwhen i want to run net in the xp first i connect to server"adminstrator" then it be register my ip and name then i enter the net08:00
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PF-Awaysupernix: i've tried it, a long time ago08:00
supernixI am trying to install the Joomla template helper extension into NVU but it just wont with not explanation of why08:01
PF-Awaysupernix: but I went quickly back to kate08:01
jgunnhey - does anyone know if there is a known bug with konqueror for the lastest update?08:01
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supernixhmmm kate is a html editor?08:02
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PF-Awaysupernix: kate is an editor08:02
PF-Awaysupernix: a very good editor08:02
supernixah so pretty much text editing08:02
vbvbdevice name    wan miniport (pppoE)08:02
supernixI wanted to use NVU for the WYSIWYG editing to help with rapid development08:02
vbvbservice type        ppp08:03
vbvband i don t know what is it?08:03
vbvball this in windows xp08:03
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vbvbplease help08:04
ScottLij_Why can't I select KDevelop in the add/remove program? (its grayed out)08:04
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terrestrevbvb: do you use ethernet or usb?08:04
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vbvbethernet08:05
vbvbi have ethernet08:05
tuco_terrestre what replaces nautilus in kde?08:05
terrestrekonqueror08:05
tuco_ok thanks08:05
JisaoI have to burn the iso file of Feisty.  What is the proper burn mode in K3B?08:05
terrestreits a browser and filemanager08:05
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PF-Awaytuco_: also try Dolphin, it's supposed to replace Konqueror in KDE 408:06
don_jr__Okay, I did sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop.  When I do sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop it doesn't remove anything.08:06
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etalliwouldn't it be ubuntu-desktop?08:06
terrestrewhen you were on kubunu open a konsole and write sudo pppoeconf08:06
terrestreyeah, ubuntu-desktop08:06
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don_jr__etalli I'll try that now08:07
vbvbterrestre:then?08:07
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supernixI have the dvd of Kubuntu 6.10 what is the best way to update from 6.06 lts ?08:07
tuco_I am just doing this for the time being...I will see later on. Right now I need to have Beryl working :-)08:07
don_jr__I'm on gnome now, should I change over to kde bfore I remove gnome? lol08:07
terrestrethere a screen and you have to follow the instructions, and fill with your data info08:07
terrestredon_jr__: jajaja08:08
etallilol probably08:08
terrestretuco_: what how to are you follow?08:08
terrestresorry for my english08:08
terrestrehahaha08:08
don_jr__terrestre KDE doesn't show up when I try to change sessions08:08
vbvbterrestre:only?08:08
tuco_this: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html08:09
terrestrevbvb: that work for my friend08:09
tuco_very helpful and easy for people like me starting with Linux08:09
terrestredon_jr__: thats weird, maybe rebooting?08:09
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don_jr__doing that now08:10
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terrestretuco_: the how to for beryl in wiki.kubuntu.org its very usefull08:10
_dennis_when i move my cursor above a launch icon, a small window with some information about the icon displays, how can i hide it, i'm looking already for a while in appearance and themes section but i simply can't find it08:10
pollyoHello08:10
don_jr___dennis_ I don't know exactly where to find it, but you need to turn off/dissable the 'tips'08:11
_dennis_ok, tnx08:11
pollyoI'm running feisty and Adept is telling me a new version of kubuntu is available!?  It is asking me to click next to continue.and it does not give me an option to click next08:11
don_jr__kde still not showing up after I installed kubuntu-desktop...will look thorugh synaptic08:12
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terrestredon_jr__: do you use aptitude or apt-get?08:12
pollyoI just did an update with adept.08:12
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don_jr__terrestre I sued aptitude08:12
cosmo_when I am trying to kill a process it keeps telling me "Insufficient permissions to kill process" how do I get sufficent permission?08:12
terrestrepollyo: yeah i have to download 300mb after install, its a beta version, many change happend08:13
terrestredon_jr__: , i didti that way08:13
pollyoterrestre: I already have feisty though.08:13
pollyoterrestre: Are you saying that even for those who have fiesty installed they have another big change?08:13
terrestrethe feisty available its just beta08:13
don_jr__terrestre I just did sudo aptitude install kde and it's going08:13
terrestreyeah i tried that, but install other things08:14
terrestredon_jr__: to be honest with you08:14
don_jr__I just n eed to get into KDE, I don't like gnome...lol08:14
pollyocosmo_: Have you tried sudo kill?08:14
terrestrethe kubuntu-destkop thing just bringme problem hahaha08:14
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terrestreso, i reinstall the system and dont install ubuntu-dekstop08:15
cosmo_pollyo: no I hadn't tried that yet, didn't know the command08:15
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don_jr__now I have to get wine to work on my desktop, since it won't work here on my laptop08:15
supernixanyone know how to upgrade to edgy from LTS ?08:15
don_jr__sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?08:16
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supernixI have the dvd so I am sure it would be much faster than downloading everything08:16
don_jr__I woulnd't know how to do it from a disk08:16
ScottLij_why can't I use adept to install KDevelop?08:16
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terrestredon_jr__: do you tried in non graphic mode?08:17
supernixdist upgrade wont update anything just tried it08:17
don_jr__terrestre I may do that, it's installing KDE now, once I get moved over I'll work on removing gnome08:18
SSJ_GZScottLij_: What goes wrong?08:18
etalliOn a clean install of kubuntu i need to change the resolution to 1280x800 but it is not in the list under the monitor section even though it is in my monitor section of xorg.conf, can anyone help?08:18
ScottLij_It's greyed out08:18
don_jr__supernix hmmmm, I'm not sure then.  I"m still pretty new to linux as a whole08:18
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cosmo_I think the offending process is apt-index-watch what would be the command to kill it?08:18
supernixMe to don_jr__ well not exactly new but I hardly use it enough to remember anything08:18
SSJ_GZScottLij_: I don't know, then.  Close adept, and do sudo apt-get install kdevelop from the command-line.08:19
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don_jr__supernix I have had ubuntu on my laptop for about a year, but like you, don't hardly use it, or when I do it's just web browsing and that's it.08:19
don_jr__found wine, so now I"m putting kubuntu on my main desktop too, I'm sick of winblows08:19
ScottLij_"Package kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:20
ScottLij_"08:20
supernixI have used nix clones for over 7 years on and off but mostly stuck with XP due to programs for financial accounting for business08:20
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SSJ_GZScottLij_: Have you enabled the Universe repository?08:20
supernixOnce they got the cut and paste working in Linux it really attracted me back08:20
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SSJ_GZScottLij_: What version of Kubuntu are you using?08:21
ScottLij_no, how do I do that?08:21
SSJ_GZ!universe08:21
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:21
SSJ_GZScottLij_: ^^^08:21
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etallican anyone help me out08:21
don_jr__supernix I've enjoyed the customizability of linux so far.  scripting you can make it do so much more than a windows macro.  I enjoy it quite a bit.08:21
Aloneaok, I am trying to copy one file from my ntfs drive because my windows blew up again, but it starts to copy it, then stalls part way, and then almost crashes my linux system.08:21
don_jr__etalli I'm not sure how to fix that.  if it shows up under xorg.conf then you should have the availability to change it within kubuntu.08:22
supernixI am sure I would love it to if I would learn some kind of scripting language08:22
SSJ_GZScottLij_: Follow the "Adding the Universe and Multiverse" guide in the link08:22
don_jr__supernix I've just stuck with bash since it's the default terminal08:22
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don_jr__Alonea can you get into the windows box at all?08:23
SSJ_GZScottLij_: Then try to install kdevelop again08:23
terrestredon_jr__: do you have de kde sessions available now?08:23
SSJ_GZScottLij_: Then follow the steps in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39909008:23
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Aloneadon_jr__: nope. says a system file is missing. wanted to do windows repair, but the r option on the windows install screen is missing08:24
don_jr__terrestre nope, still installing a bunch of stuff, dkegraphics, kviewshell and a bunch of others, I don't know how far in total it is yet.08:24
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don_jr__Alonea then I don't know.  I can help with ftp setup to transfer if the windows box is up, but if it's not, I dont' know how to fix that.08:24
terrestredon_jr__: do you know the comand to stop de grafic mode? i can tell you if dont08:24
don_jr__use a startup disk and save the file tod isk?08:24
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don_jr__terrestre why do I want to stop grafic mode?08:25
terrestrewhen remove the ubuntu-desktop08:25
Aloneadon_jr__: its ok. though, when i did start linux, it said a bunch of buffer I/o errors on the ntfs drive, but when I did windows' file system check thing, it said it was fine...08:25
etallidon_jr__ yea, seems.  I have done 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' more than once, tried to find a modeline to add, and now I am stuck.  I've gotta set this up before Monday08:25
don_jr__terrestre Alright, I'm goingto try removing gnome, once I get into KDE, if I can't get into KDE then yes, I can get into a terminal text mode only.08:25
don_jr__etalli I'm honestly not sure about that one, if you'd reconfig'd xorg and it's in the xorg.conf file I wouldn't know what else to check as to why it won't allow that resolution within kubuntu.  Another guy has this same problem earlier, he hasn't got it fixed yet either.  maybe try #ubuntu if no one here knows right now?08:27
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etalliok, will do.  I am stumped, and glad to hear I'm not the only one :)08:28
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sivajikubuntu 7.04 has released can i upgrade for kubuntu 6.06 to 7.0408:28
terrestrejajaja I was tryng to remember the command and I close the ghraphic mode, jajaj08:29
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makuserusivaji: i would wait till its final release08:29
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sivajii think it release full i could download it08:29
pollyoHas feisty been released or is it still a beta?08:30
makuserusivaji: its final release is 19th08:30
makuserubeta08:30
sivajiya u r correct it is beta08:30
pollyomakuseru: That is what I thought.  Thanks.08:30
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terrestretheres a new tool, in the web, to update freom 6.0608:31
sivajiis there any way to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 ple tell me08:31
makuserusivaji: if it wasnt beta this would be a fiesty room and ubuntu+1 would be the next release08:31
terrestreiread about it08:31
terrestreits like a program08:31
don_jr__terrestre alt+f4 isn't it? to drop to a terminal?08:31
pjcrosieri've just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu :) only one problem - i'm using xchat in tree mode and it doesn't seem to want to color channel names on activity, anyone come across this before?08:31
makuserusivaji: change dapper in your sources.list to feisty08:31
etallidon_jr__  I just thought, would it help you to know that I'm on Feisty?08:31
don_jr__what's the benefit of upgrading from 6.06 to the 7.04 version?08:31
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sivajihow to change that08:31
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mrignsdon_jr__: 0.9808:32
don_jr__etalli no that doesn't help me any at all, I don't know much about the graphic's stuff.  I used envy to install my nvidia card and it works great forme...08:32
makuserujust open it in a editor and change them all08:32
sivajiopen it means "it " refers to what08:32
don_jr__makuseru what is the benefit of upgrading from 6.06 to 7.04?  what new packages make it worth it to worry about?08:32
erz-terrestre: hi back ....just wanna know why amarok crash08:33
makuserusivaji: i just said your sources.list08:33
terrestredon_jr__: alt-f4 close windows08:33
etallidon_jr__  just was wondering, I should have stated in the first message08:33
makuserudon_jr: im not quite sure really08:33
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mrignsas i said 0.9808:34
terrestreerz08:34
sivajii am very new to linux so tell me clearly where is source list u mean repositary08:34
makuserudon_jr__: i just stay up to date, even though i do really like the new art in feisty08:34
terrestreerz-: check out the web that i give you08:34
makuserusivaji: i mean the file sources.list08:34
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Jisao/etc/apt/sources.list08:34
don_jr__makuseru I may look into it, I change the style's and art of my box anyways so htat's no biggie by me.08:34
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makuserusivaji: if your not sure abotu that, you probably shouldnt be doing a "dity upgrade" or what ever you want to call it, just burn the feisty iso to a CD08:34
makuserudon_jr__: i mean how it boots and shuts down, the menus are diff, i really like um now08:35
sampanhrmmm, why would i not be able to call up kcontrol from katapault?  it used to work just fine08:35
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don_jr__makuseru that's good, I updated my loading splash, as for the first shown 'loading' type list...a change in that might be neat depending...08:35
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terrestredon_jr__: to go to non grpaphic mode do you have to use ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or 3 or etc. ... with F7 you back to grapfhic mode08:36
terrestrectrl+alt+F708:36
don_jr__sivaji hit alt+f2 and type in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list   it will ask for password and you can then edit the file they are speaking of.08:36
makuserudon_jr__: i dont think he should be doing that, he will end up breaking it08:37
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makuserumore than likely08:37
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chemicalvamphow would you mount a iso?08:37
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don_jr__makuseru maybe, but you live you learn, someone ask how...I tell them....lol  Downloading the CD and burning it would be the best way to do it.08:38
makuseruyes08:38
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don_jr__chemicalvamp I'm not sure but isn't 'mount' a command in and of it's self?  sudo mount "path to iso"08:38
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makuserudon_jr__: even though i plan on just a quick and dirty upgrade to feisty, but thats cause ive had this edgy machine since it came out, and do not want to reconfigure everything on a new install08:39
terrestretheres a new tool for upgrade to edgy08:39
terrestrei read about ir08:39
terrestreit08:39
chemicalvampmount: can't find /home/chemicalvamp/c.iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab don_JR_08:39
sivajiya i got that file what i am suppose to do08:40
terrestrechemicalvamp: to mount, ist just one line but it a little large i found it in google but i forget anytime08:40
makuseru!iso08:40
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.08:40
makuseruthere ya go08:41
don_jr__sivaji if you really want to do that...I woulnd't if I were you, but you can change all 'dapper' to fiesty and then from terminal type in sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  and it should do it.08:41
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makuseruya, i told him that already08:41
makuseruand he didnt know what the sources.list was08:41
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don_jr__makuseru he got the file open now and was asking agian what needed changed.  I headed that onewith a warningof not to do it....I've learned alot the hard way too...lol08:42
makuserume too08:42
lebricon#hack08:42
terrestrewho is the guy that wanna upgrade to feisty?08:42
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don_jr__all I can say is 'linux for dummies' lies...lol  I still don't understand some of it and learning to script, I goofed up quite a bit in the beginning! lol08:43
makuserusivaji08:43
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chemicalvampsudo mount -o loop /home/chemicalvamp/c.img /mnt/C:08:43
chemicalvampmount: you must specify the filesystem type08:43
don_jr__KDE is almost done on my main PC, thank God, I'll be leaving in a moment once it's done and I'll come back on that box08:43
chemicalvampwhere do i insert ntfs?08:44
sampansheesh katapault is really acting weird -- first it can't find kcontrol and now it fades as soon as i type a second letter08:44
don_jr__chemicalvamp look at the site and see where it tells you to add that option08:44
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terrestrehttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade <----------- to the guy that want to upgrade08:44
terrestrechemical the filesystem in this case is somelike -9800 o algo asi08:45
terrestreor something like that08:45
don_jr__I may try the upgrade, after I get the box set up in the first place.  It's finished installing things and now it's setting them up....hope it's done soon.08:45
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chemicalvampdon_jr__ actually the site tells you about conversions..08:45
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don_jr__chemicalvamp oh...hmmmmmm not sure then.  let me do some looking08:46
terrestresudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /where/to/mount/  <---- i found the command in google08:47
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chemicalvampthank08:47
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hunshadhey al08:47
terrestrewhy I search the line, i dont know jajaja08:47
hunshadi have a problem with java on konqueror08:48
don_jr__Yay, got KDE up and running08:48
terrestrenice08:48
terrestreyou are on kde now?08:48
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chemicalvampthink i figured it out, what filesystem tag would a ntfs hdd img have?08:49
hunshadon firefox that work08:49
hunshadbut not on konqueror08:49
hunshadwho can help me08:49
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sivajikonqueror is not so good ,use firefox08:50
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don_jr__chemicalvamp I'm not sure what tag it would use.....but I found a place that has a script to automate mounting for you.08:50
makuserusivaji: dont tell people that, konqueror is fine08:51
fdovingdoes the intel 950 work with dualhead? i'm thinking of buying a laptop with one of those graphic adapters.08:51
hunshadno just java don't working08:51
don_jr__grrrrr sudo aptitude remove gnome did nothing08:52
terrestrewhat do you use people? konqueror or firefox?08:52
chemicalvampjava isnt supported at all for amd64 hunshad i have to emulate a 32bit firefox and even then it dont work all the time08:52
terrestresudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop ?08:52
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makuserudon_jr__: try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop08:52
don_jr__sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop did nothingaswell08:52
makuseruha08:52
don_jr__terrestre I use konquerer08:52
hunshadbut08:52
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hunshadjava d'ont work08:52
makuserudunno, works on mine08:53
hunshadi downlaod java runtime environment08:53
don_jr__hunshad there was a program at one time that I was told about and used briefly that installed flash/java and a couple other things all at once....08:53
terrestredon_jr__: yeah that was the problem that I talckiing about, now the question, when you start says kubuntu o ubuntu, and are u using gdm o kdm?08:53
don_jr__I'll need to do the same, get java/flash and macromedia all of them up again.08:53
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don_jr__terrestre I want to use KDE I dong' like gnome.  I want gnome gone!08:54
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x3m-tuxhello08:54
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terrestredon_jr__: the java/flash dont need to do it :) I install feisty beta yestarday and konqueror auto install flash 9 when I was surifng the web08:54
etallidon_jr__  what do you mean by nothing, like literally "" nothing, or what?08:54
terrestresorry the java i dont know, the flash yeas08:55
hunshadyes java flash08:55
hunshadmine dont work08:55
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don_jr__etalli it did a list of stuff then at the end said, 0 upgraded, 0 installed 0 removed..no changes made08:55
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terrestrehunshad: do you are using feisty or edgy?08:55
chemicalvampwhat does sudo apt-get install kde- say?08:56
x3m-tuxhunshad: you have no java as default in kernel?08:56
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don_jr__chemicalvamp I did that already and I'm on KDE, I need to get rid of gnome now.08:56
etallihmm, wierd.  Could it be somehow in use, even if you are in kde08:56
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don_jr__etalli possibly, not sure08:56
hunshadbut i had 6.10 lts08:56
chemicalvampsudo apt-get remove gnome08:56
hunshadubuntu08:56
x3m-tuxKDE have java by default08:56
don_jr__I'll log out and come no under console only08:57
hunshadand i have download kuduntu desktop08:57
etallidon_jr__ are you sure that backing up and reinstalling is not possible:)08:57
x3m-tuxaa not Kubuntu08:57
don_jr__chemicalvamp that does nothing for me I tried it08:57
hunshadand i have download kuduntu desktop08:57
hunshadand kde08:57
chemicalvamplook in adept, filter gnome08:57
terrestredon_jr__: maybe installing kdm first and purge gdm later, will ask you for remove a lot of gnome things08:57
don_jr__etalli yes, I have the ubuntu alternace CD and gnome comes in automatically.08:57
terrestredon_jr__:08:57
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don_jr__terrestre I have kdm installed now08:58
x3m-tuxhunshad: and after instal no java ?08:58
terrestreso tray now with sudo aptitude purge gdm08:58
hunshadi   install java runtime environment08:58
etalliwell, if you have the option of backing up and reinstalling, you could get the Kubuntu alternate cd08:58
chemicalvamphunshad i have to run windows xp in qemu to watch embedded video... but i dont really recomend it08:58
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etallior ddo you not have cd burning ability08:58
hunshadbah go on firefox08:58
don_jr__terrestre I just did sudo apt-get remove gdm and it started to run then came up with i/o warning: failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"08:59
x3m-tuxhunshad: and after instal it's gone?08:59
don_jr__etalli I do, but I don't have any blank CD's at this point! lol08:59
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etallilol08:59
hunshadno08:59
terrestresudo aptitude purge gaim08:59
terrestretray that08:59
x3m-tuxhunshad: tray search java from KDE find folders08:59
hunshadit's wee08:59
terrestretray its not the word08:59
chemicalvampbut gaim is the shit08:59
terrestrehaha08:59
hunshadok i will check now09:00
don_jr__sudo apt-get purge gdm comes back with E: Invalid operation purge09:00
terrestreaptitude not apt-get09:00
terrestrei always preferd aptitude09:00
x3m-tuxi like use al stuff in X09:00
terrestrepreferd? exist that ward? jajaja my english suck09:00
hunshadafter instal it's gone09:01
terrestreword09:01
sheeple /msg nickserv link laire $luc4rd309:01
supernixI have tried and tried and tried to upgrade using the cdromupgrade from the 6.10 cd and it always gives an error09:01
hunshadlibflash-mozplugin09:01
don_jr__I don't have adept.....09:01
x3m-tuxso instal adept09:01
terrestredon_jr__: no, its a command09:01
terrestreaptitude09:01
terrestrebut i like because its complete better the dependencies09:02
terrestrethan apt-get09:02
don_jr__I know that, I'll work on it, I'm just saying it's odd I don't have adept here...lol09:02
terrestrejajaja09:02
terrestresorry09:02
x3m-tuxaa debian apt get install09:02
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terrestreand purge gaim?09:02
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sivajii cant open adept09:02
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terrestreone day i tray to remove gaim and, ask e if i want to remove a lot of things09:03
jhutchinshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto09:03
black_syphilisFrench?09:03
don_jr__terrestre I did sudo aptitude purge gdm.  removing gdm... purging configuration files for gdm ... removing user 'gdm'... done.09:03
chemicalvamp!fr09:03
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.09:03
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sivaji! configure adept09:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about configure adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:04
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sivaji!  adept09:04
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto09:04
terrestretry with gaim, and when you ask you if you want remove, if you said no will give you a lot of options09:04
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x3m-tuxterrestre: newe un instal al things it's not goog for the hart :-)09:04
don_jr__terrestre you tellingme to try and remove gaim and see what it says?09:04
terrestredon_jr__:  yeah09:04
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etalliis there a way to change the resolution from the console?09:05
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terrestrex3m-tux: sorry i dont understand you09:05
x3m-tuxete09:05
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dvayanuhi09:05
terrestremy english its not too good09:05
terrestrejajaja09:05
x3m-tuxetalli: YES09:05
don_jr__terrestre alright, I'll try that in a moment.  I'm installing kubuntu-desktop again...not sure why it didn't keep it from before, but it's going, I'll follow that link you gave and use adept to upgrade to fiesty and fix alotofthis09:05
etallix3m-tux  OK, how!?09:06
dvayanui need some hints installing hp photosmart c6180 under kubuntu edge09:06
x3m-tuxetalli: you can chnage resulution in xorg09:06
don_jr__terrestre habla espanol?09:06
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terrestresip09:06
etallix3m-tux elaborate please09:06
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terrestredon_jr__: sip09:07
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don_jr__yo hablo muy poco espanol   if I even spelled that right! lol09:07
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terrestrejaja so now you know how i feel09:07
x3m-tuxetalli: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and edit there09:07
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ypsilamoin09:07
sheepleis there an edgy deb available for k3b 1.0 yet?09:08
kumamotodon_jr__: still hanging around09:08
x3m-tuxi have also resulution problems :-(09:08
don_jr__terrestre yes, I want to learn to speak spanish better.09:08
sheeplecan't find one09:08
terrestreand i english, but with know people around me to talk its kind of difficult09:08
don_jr__kumamoto yep, I'm still here, got alot done on my desktop now, got it online and the nvidia drivers installed and KDE up and running, now workin on removeing gnome! lol09:09
x3m-tuxi think it's fonts and dpi problem if some one can help me09:09
don_jr__terrestre same problem here, no one I"m around speaks spanish fluently09:09
etalliwhere in it, I have edited the monitor and screen parts tomy resolution, but a) it doesn't change, even when I restart X w/ Ctrl-Alt-Bksp and b) it later doesn't show up in the control panel area09:09
kumamotodon_jr__: nice09:09
terrestredon_jr__: where are you from?09:09
kumamotoright now am on my kubuntu laptop09:09
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don_jr__terrestre I'm in the US, the pittifull state of Kansas! lol09:09
terrestrekubuntu laptop around here too09:09
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etallidon_jr and terrestre, Je parle franc,ais un peux09:10
kumamotodon_jr__: how is intelligent design going09:10
x3m-tuxkumamoto: what laptop you have ?09:10
terrestrejaja cool09:10
don_jr__kumamoto I'm on a laptop aswell, that was originally installed from the ubuntu alternate CD now runs KDE only and works pretty well, if I can get wine to work on my desktop I'll be happy09:10
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kumamotoregular dell inspiron 860009:10
x3m-tuxi have T4209:10
don_jr__kumamoto inteligent design....you know me from another place?  or is that an accidental refferal to other topics I discuss in other places? lol09:11
jhutchinsetalli: Do you have krandrtray running?09:11
jhutchinsetalli: That's a handy way to set your resolution.09:11
kumamotodon_jr__: don't know thought it was a kansas thing09:11
etallijhutchins, um maybe?  what is that?09:11
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don_jr__kumamoto Okay, it is to an extent, we are the only state that requires it to be taught.  I am a Christian and discuss that topic quite a bit in other places.  Thought maybe you recognized the name! lol09:12
etallijhutchins, and how do i start it09:12
jhutchinsetalli: A utility for changing resolution called krandrtray.  kde panel applet.09:12
kumamotodon_jr__: ah09:12
x3m-tuxkumamoto: ok i have thinkpad09:12
dvayanunevermind, i told him to use photosmart 7150 drivers, it worked as charm09:12
kumamotox3m-tux: ah09:13
terrestreetalli: I just know one thing in french,  a tout le monde, a tout mes amis, je vous aime, je dois partir jaja09:13
kumamotoaesthetically never liked thinkpad but hardware wise they are nice09:13
x3m-tuxjhutchins: this krundtray have mutch settings option??09:14
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dauoalagio2Hello how can i burn an audio cd with MP3's?  they play in amarok but K3b says it's not supported09:14
terrestredo you need install some things09:15
terrestreand k3b do it09:15
dauoalagio2what do i install09:15
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x3m-tuxjhutchins: hello09:15
sheepleis there an edgy deb available for k3b 1.0 yet?09:16
ms_Hola! Necesito ayuda con Linux!! Alguien me puede ayudar?09:16
sheepleI haven't been able to find a 1.0 deb file yet09:16
x3m-tuxdauoalagio2: take al what hawe to do whit mp309:16
ms_Por favor!09:16
PhinnFortsheeple: i have it in feisty09:16
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dauoalagio2x3m-tux: thanks09:17
sheepleyeah, I'm still running edgy09:17
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x3m-tuxdauoalagio2: becorse some thing is missing for you09:17
terrestrems hay un canal en espaol, kubuntu-es y si puedo yo te puedo ayudar09:17
sheeplemaybe I'll just wait a couple weeks til feisty is rtm09:17
ms_Por favor terrestre09:17
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x3m-tuxgood night dudes09:18
terrestredauoalagio2: do you are on edgy or feisty?09:18
terrestrems_:  dime09:18
dauoalagio2terrestre: edgy09:18
ms_Esta es la primera vez que me conecto aqui inclusive, lo hice mas por necesidad, no conozco ni de esto09:18
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terrestredauoalagio2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats09:19
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terrestrecheck out that link09:19
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dauoalagio2terrestre: i have all those installe09:19
dauoalagio2d09:19
terrestremmm09:19
ms_Tengo un problema con el adept, se me quedo pegado y aunq reinicie me dice que necesito cerrar la sesion anterior o sino no puedo hacer nada...09:19
terrestreso that werid09:19
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ms_Al menos con el adept y necesito instalar unas cosas09:19
terrestreyo no uso el adept, solo aptitude09:19
terrestrepero bueno09:19
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kumamotoppl no habla espanol09:20
ms_Quiza me digas como puedo matar el proceso... a ver si asi puedo continuar09:20
don_jr__wow upgrading to 7.04 is going to take some time09:20
terrestresi, soy chileno09:20
ms_Es que soy completamente nuevo en linux...09:20
terrestre!es09:20
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:20
terrestrehace click en kubuntu-es09:21
DaSkreech!es | terrestre and ms_ please read09:21
ubotuterrestre and ms_ please read: please see above09:21
DaSkreechterrestre: gracias :-)09:21
terrestre:)09:21
ms_Uboto, disculpa, entre a este canal de pura suerte, no tengo ni idea de como cambiarme...09:21
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terrestrehace click en kubuntu-es09:21
terrestreubotu: ms, said sorry09:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ms, said sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:23
terrestrejajaja nice09:23
terrestreuboto is a bot?09:23
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DaSkreechterrestre: Si09:23
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terrestrejajaja09:24
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terrestresomebody knows why some killall work and other not?09:24
don_jr__is there an equivilent to yahoo messenger that can be used on kubuntu?09:24
terrestrefor example  killall amsn, didnt09:24
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DaSkreech!yahoo09:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:25
DaSkreech!msn09:25
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.09:25
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terrestre!es09:25
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:25
don_jr__thanks DaSkreech I'll lookinto it, but doesn't say yahoo! lol09:26
DaSkreechdon_jr__: It's biased :)09:26
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don_jr__lol09:26
DaSkreechdon_jr__: You are on Kubuntu now?09:26
don_jr__yeah09:26
don_jr__well, kinda09:26
terrestrems_ click on this #kubuntu-es09:26
DaSkreechdon_jr__: alt+space -> type kop -> <enter>09:26
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DaSkreechHi Alonea09:26
don_jr__this box was originally installed to be ubuntu, I've installed kde and removed gnome from it09:27
terrestrejajaja katapult, wath that09:27
ms_Cual era el link al kubuntu en espaol?09:27
terrestrealt+space nick09:27
terrestrems_ click on this #kubuntu-es09:27
AloneaDaSkreech: hey. well,  my computer just refuses to be nice to me.09:27
AloneaDaSkreech: cept its windows this time09:27
DaSkreechAlonea: Send it to bed without any RAM!09:27
DaSkreechdon_jr__: well try the alt+space combo09:28
DaSkreech!katapult09:28
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ubotukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.09:28
AloneaDaSkreech: there are nice volume errors on it too.09:28
DaSkreechAlonea: Hard drive is dying?09:28
don_jr__DaSkreech thanks alot, it runs yahoo!09:28
DaSkreechdon_jr__: I know :)09:29
DaSkreechIt does webcam too if you care about such things09:29
AloneaDaSkreech: dunno. Windows had an odd error on shutdown and now it says missing or corrupted system files.09:29
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terrestreckatapult, ist very nice, thanks09:29
DaSkreechAlonea: Hmm it's NTFs I assume?09:29
DaSkreechterrestre: Welcome09:29
don_jr__DaSkreech great, I have one on my desktop that I use to speak wiht my grandmother in NC sometimes, so that's goodto know.  nowifonly I can get wine to wrok I can ditch winblows forever!!!09:29
DunkelschubExcuse me, could someone point me in the right direction to move my entire Ubuntu installation from one hardrive to another?09:29
DaSkreechDunkelschub: dd09:30
AloneaDaSkreech: yeah. I am gonna try the chkdsk /f and see if it will fix it09:30
DaSkreechAlonea: okie :-)09:30
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Dunkelschubdd?09:30
AloneaDaSkreech: but not at this moment...I need to listen to happy music before I take another stab09:30
DaSkreechDunkelschub: What are you trying to do09:31
DaSkreech I think that the answer will be DD but let me just make sure09:31
don_jr__Alonea Phillips Craig and Dean sing the greatest happy music ever made! =)09:31
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DaSkreechAlonea: What's your happy music?09:31
DunkelschubI have Kubuntu installed on a 10 gig hd currently, I want to move it to a 40gig hd I have09:31
kumamotoDunkelschub: use dd09:32
DaSkreechDunkelschub: Without reinstalling I assume09:32
kumamototo image it from the 10 GB to 40GB09:32
AloneaDaSkreech: currently. Grindhouse soundtrack. Stagger Lee is stuck in my head09:32
Dunkelschubok09:32
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don_jr__I'm trying to use adept now to upgrade to fiesty and it's telling me there's a problem....heh my luck today09:33
don_jr__and now konqueror won't work, says it's malformatted.....this isn't good09:34
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Why are you upgrading to feisty?09:34
kumamotodon_jr__: don't mind if I ask is feisy better than edgy09:34
DaSkreechI'm on Feisty09:34
don_jr__DaSkreech cause I"m an idiot I guess, it screwed stuff up...lol09:34
DaSkreechIt's going to be nice when it's stable09:34
DaSkreechdon_jr__: comfortable with the command line?09:35
AloneaDaSkreech: *Staggolee , its by Pacific Gas & Electric09:35
don_jr__now I have to see if I can reverse what ever it was I just did and get rid of it09:35
don_jr__DaSkreech I'm alright with it, what ya got forme?] 09:35
DaSkreechAh Stagger lee is a singer as I recall09:35
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DaSkreech!upgrade09:35
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ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)09:35
don_jr__I've got a konsole open already09:35
DaSkreechSomethign like ^^^ that but instead of dapper to edgy it's edgy to feisty09:35
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vadimhi2all09:37
DaSkreechdon_jr__: I normally run the dist-upgrade twice09:37
DaSkreechJust to be sure :-)09:37
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don_jr__DaSkreech I'll do that and thanks alot for the page, it's running now, much easier than using adept!09:39
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don_jr__I hope I can get the latest wine to run after this....the 0.9.9 version available in synoptic is old09:39
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Don't worry we are working on it :)09:39
DaSkreech!wine09:40
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:40
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Also visit the winehq.org site09:40
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DaSkreech they have a ubuntu reop09:40
DaSkreechrepo09:40
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LordOfHeathi there09:40
LordOfHeatare there any repositories with ethereal?09:40
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don_jr__DaSkreech yes I've been there and have that repo on my laptop here when I try to run it I get some dependancies erros that I can't figure out09:41
terrestre!DaSkreech09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about daskreech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
DaSkreech!etheral09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etheral - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
DaSkreech!ethereal09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
DaSkreech!wireshark09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
terrestre!terrestre09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about terrestre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
DaSkreech!info wireshark09:41
ubotuwireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB09:41
DaSkreechLordOfHeat: That's the Network traffic analyzer/sniffer right?09:42
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LordOfHeatDaSkreech, yes09:42
DaSkreechLordOfHeat: It's in universe09:42
LordOfHeatand there is no wireshark in adept09:42
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DaSkreechLordOfHeat: do you have universe enabled?09:43
LordOfHeatummm09:44
LordOfHeatno09:44
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DaSkreechLordOfHeat: Do you know how to enable it?09:44
luis_hola hace unos minutos instale kubuntu 7.04 no puedo poner el espaol kopete, alguien puede ayudarme09:45
DaSkreech!es09:45
LordOfHeatDaSkreech, editing sources.list?09:45
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:45
stdincan someone help me install Kubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1501? Dapper/Edgy can't detect the Hard disk. Anyone know anything about this?09:45
DaSkreechLordOfHeat: Sure if you are comfortable with that09:45
terrestreDaSkreech: do you know what cand mean, read only mode: data base locked when ms_ open adept09:46
DaSkreechstdin: Are you sure that the disk isn't there?09:46
DaSkreech!adept crash fix | terrestre09:46
ubotuterrestre: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 09:46
terrestrei love you ubotu09:46
terrestrehajajaj thanks DaSkreech thanks09:46
don_jr__wow upgrading to edgy is goign to take some time09:47
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stdinDaSkreech: there is a hard disk there, vista is installed on it, but it isn't detected at all by kubuntu09:47
DaSkreechstdin: can you mount it?09:47
DaSkreechdon_jr__: I thought you are on edgy09:47
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Yeah it's always about a day faster to simply reinstall09:47
stdinDaSkreech: no, it's not dectected at all, there is no device to mount09:47
DaSkreechstdin: What are you trying to mount?09:48
stdinDaSkreech: /dev/hda is the cd drive09:48
DaSkreech Most laptops have a /dev/sda109:48
stdinDaSkreech: this has nither09:48
don_jr__DaSkreech I don'thave any blank disks to burn a new install to it.09:48
stdinDaSkreech: the hard disk just isn't detected at all09:48
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Then kick back and chill in here with us09:48
DaSkreechstdin: Freaky09:48
don_jr__I just did a fresh install of ubuntu dapper today on my desktop and it's upgrading now.  don't want to start all over again.09:48
DaSkreechWhat happens when you open qtparted?09:49
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don_jr__I sure am, on my laptop at the moment here, with my desktop right beside me, now gotta try and get wine running....09:49
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Ah. Upgrading to Edgy then to feisty?09:49
stdinDaSkreech: nothing, no disks detected09:49
DaSkreechstdin: do you have a sd anything?09:49
mrigns09:49
stdinDaSkreech: it's as if it's no there from kubuntu, tho windows sees it fine09:49
stdinDaSkreech: no, no /dev/sd* devs09:50
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don_jr__DaSkreech I guess that's the way I'll have to go about it....we'll see how long this takes.09:51
don_jr__What's the diff between the distro's?  What packages make fiesty or edgy better than dapper?09:51
DaSkreechdon_jr__: essentially they are newer09:52
DaSkreecholder distros are more stable and reliable09:52
DaSkreech newer ones have more features and are more exciting09:52
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mrignsfeisty = edgy + 0.9809:52
DaSkreechWell I gotta boogie09:53
LordOfHeatmrigns, 6.06 is dapper :)09:53
LordOfHeatnot edgy09:53
mrigns:(09:53
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don_jr__and that +0.98 means nothing to me, it's numbers....that doens't help09:54
AngelogprsxHo un problema con l'aggiornameno di Ubuntu,  qui ch eposso chiedere aiuto?09:54
don_jr__!es09:55
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:55
mrigns!it | Angelogprsx09:55
ubotuAngelogprsx: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:55
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DaSkreech!br09:55
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ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.09:55
Angelogprsxok!09:55
DaSkreechFor fun :)09:55
mrignshe spoke italian not spanish09:55
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don_jr__looks very similar, glad you caughtit09:55
terrestre!ch09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:55
terrestre:(09:55
DaSkreechdon_jr__: oh sorry you wouldn't get the joke09:55
terrestrechineese?09:55
DaSkreech!cn09:55
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk09:55
terrestrejajajaja09:55
terrestreesperanto?09:56
ypsilakicher09:56
DaSkreechdon_jr__: we call the next version of Ubuntu +109:56
ypsilaschwbisch!09:56
terrestre!sp09:56
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:56
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DaSkreechSo after feisty is something we don't know what it's called so it's feisty+109:56
don_jr__ahhhh, well that makes a bit more sense09:56
DaSkreech!feisty09:57
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)09:57
don_jr__I've got alot to learn about linux it's self, but my understanding was the only difference in distro's were thier native packages09:57
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Not the support channel09:57
DaSkreechNote sorry09:57
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vbvbDevice name WAN Miniport (PPPOE)09:57
vbvbDevice Type PPPoE09:57
vbvbServer Type PPP09:57
vbvbTransports TCP/IP09:57
vbvbAuthentication MS CHAPV209:57
vbvbCompression (none)09:57
vbvbPPP multilink framing off09:57
vbvbServer IP address 85.187.175.4109:57
vbvbClient IP address 85.187.175.409:57
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Yes that's the differene between distros but you were asking about dapper vs feisty09:57
DaSkreechThose aren't distros09:57
DaSkreech!paste | vbvb09:57
ubotuvbvb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:57
vbvbi want imstall the network in kubuntu09:58
chemicalvamp!paste>vbvb09:58
ypsilaDaSkreech: thx09:58
don_jr__DaSkreech oh...then what's it considered?09:58
ypsiladon_jr__: versions09:58
mrignsversions09:58
ypsila;-)09:58
DaSkreechReleases09:58
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vbvbhelp09:58
DaSkreechLordOfHeat: are you good?09:59
vbvbi don t know  how can i solve this problem?09:59
DaSkreech!network09:59
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:59
DaSkreechHmm :)09:59
don_jr__Alrighty, I"m sorry if my mind is too logical to understand the simplicity here.  but if the only diff between a distro is it's native packages, then what would be the difference between versions, if not only native packages?09:59
DaSkreech!dialup09:59
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto09:59
DaSkreechvbvb: ^^^09:59
DaSkreechdon_jr__: customizations09:59
DaSkreechdon_jr__: each distro normally also has a philosophy10:00
don_jr__DaSkreech so they change some artwork update the kenrel and all it a new version?10:00
DaSkreechSo though they may have much the same packages the spirit of the distro is different10:00
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Some distro's do that yes10:00
LordOfHeatDaSkreech, yes, updated repositories, and installed ethereal10:01
LordOfHeatthnx10:01
DaSkreechLordOfHeat: Good :-) Enjoy10:01
don_jr__Alrigh, I get the 'flavor' aspect with kde, gnome differences.  which does fiesty come with or is it in 2 places aswell one with gnome one with kde?10:01
DaSkreechdon_jr__: two places10:01
DaSkreechYou can have both if you like10:01
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don_jr__great...I hope I'm getting the KDE version or I"m going to have to do all this over again! lol10:02
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don_jr__I'm doing it from KDE so hopefully that's the files it pulls eh? heh10:02
makuseruhow can i get a computer on the internet? i cant get it to connect10:02
don_jr__though my original install is ubuntu and I added KDE to it and removed as much of gnome as I thought to be safe.10:02
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DaSkreechdon_jr__: That's correct :-)10:02
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DaSkreechdon_jr__: did you remove ubuntu-desktop ?10:03
don_jr__makuseru I finally got online and now you can't? =)10:03
makuseruno10:03
don_jr__DaSkreech I believe so, last time I tried it removed nothing so I would guess it's not ther now10:03
makuserumy lappy wont get on the net10:03
don_jr__makuseru has it ever been connected before?10:03
chemicalvampmakuseru on feisty?10:03
makuseruedgy10:03
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Okie :-)10:03
makuserunever been connected on the machine10:03
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DaSkreechdon_jr__: plan on hanging out here for a while?10:04
udrescuhello ... have a question10:04
don_jr__makuseru how is it connecting?  wireless or lan?10:04
udrescucan anyone help me ?10:04
chemicalvampfiesty's network is totaly screwed... uses older setup then edgy10:04
don_jr__DaSkreech probably another couple hours....10:04
makuseruwell how can i get my edgy box up and runnnig?10:04
don_jr__udrescu just aks bud, if anyone knows we'll try and help.10:04
DaSkreechdon_jr__: Oh yeah well I meant in future dayss/weeks :-)10:04
DaSkreech You can learn a lot hanging out here10:04
DaSkreechplus you can bug me :)10:04
DaSkreech!anyone | udrescu10:04
ubotuudrescu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?10:04
don_jr__DaSkreech probably, for that reason exactly to learn...and it just downloaded firefox-gnome-support....ugh10:05
udrescuok .. i'm a bit new to ubuntu10:05
DaSkreechdon_jr__: did you remove firefox?10:05
udrescuand i want to add the officials repos10:05
DaSkreechudrescu: welcome10:05
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DaSkreechYou should already have them10:05
udrescubut i don't know the adresses10:05
don_jr__DaSkreech no I dont' think I did.....then that means it's not doing it to resetup gnome then...I hope! lol10:05
udrescuif i'm typing in konsole10:05
udrescuapt-get install gaim10:05
don_jr__it just got klogd aswell so that's a pluss  lol10:05
DaSkreechdon_jr__: You can have Gnome applications without having gnome10:05
udrescui recive an error :P10:06
udrescuthat it's not in the repo10:06
DaSkreechudrescu: try sudo apt-get install gaim10:06
makuserucan anyone help me get a laptop connected to the internet?10:06
udrescui'm logged as root :P10:06
don_jr__makuseru how are you connecting? wireless or lan?10:06
makuserudon_jr__: lan10:06
don_jr__udrescu you have all the repo's opened up?10:06
DaSkreechudrescu: try apt-get update10:06
don_jr__makuseru what have you tried so far?10:06
vbvbhow can i make the broadband acount?10:07
DaSkreechudrescu: and you really shouldn't login as root :)10:07
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vbvbdon jr:help10:07
makuserudon_jr__: i dont know what to try, never had a problem with this before10:07
DaSkreechmakuseru: does lshw -C network show your network card?10:07
don_jr__vbvb that problem is beyond me.10:07
udrescuDaSkreech: i am logged as udrescu, but in console i've entered the root account10:07
udrescuvia su10:07
DaSkreechvbvb: make the account?10:07
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DaSkreechvbvb: are you on dialup or a network based internet ?10:08
makuseruDaSkreech: lemme try10:08
DaSkreechudrescu: ok10:08
don_jr__makuseru after you check that, if the card is shown what's the IP and gateway say in ifconfig?10:08
udrescuDaSkreech: i need the url of the page with the ubuntu repos10:08
udrescuplease...10:08
DaSkreech!easysource10:08
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic10:08
DaSkreechThere you go10:08
vbvbwhat is wan miniport?10:08
makuserudon_jr__: my ip and gateway all show up10:08
DaSkreechOk I haev to go10:08
DaSkreechBye all10:08
don_jr__makuseru and they are correct?10:08
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don_jr__makuseru then try ping -c4 'gateway' and see if it goes through10:09
don_jr__makuseru replacing 'gateway' with your gateway ip10:09
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vbvbdevice name wan miniport10:09
makuserudon_jr__: alright, just a sec10:09
don_jr__vbvb are you on a laptop?  A wan port is where you connect one router to another, or a cable modem/dsl modem to the router10:10
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don_jr__vbvb forget what you do in windows to get on.  Is your computer connected to a router, is it lan or wireless?10:10
vbvbya10:11
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don_jr__okay, do you have access to yoru kubuntu box now?10:11
vbvbmy computer connected with lan10:11
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makuserudon_jr__: "unknown host gateway"10:11
don_jr__vbvb or is this the box that's dual booted with windows?10:11
don_jr__makuseru did you replace the word 'gateway' in that command with the ip that shows in your ifconfig for your gateway address?10:12
makuseru>> oops10:12
makuseruno10:12
makuseruhang on10:12
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vbvbi install wixp and kubuntu in my computer10:12
makuserudon_jr__: its fine10:13
don_jr__vbvb okay, this is difficult when you cannot look at what kubuntu will say at the same time your talking with me.10:13
don_jr__vbvb I need to know what kubuntu says when you type in ifconfig in terminal10:13
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jhutchins!paste10:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:13
don_jr__makuseru if it pinged properly, try to ping an outside source, like www.google.com or something like that10:13
vbvbdon jr ok10:13
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reagleBRKLNi'm running feisty beta, writes to an external usb2 drive with ehci_hcd are horribly slow. ~2s to read 60MB, 50s to write10:14
don_jr__vbvb and as jhutchins just pointed out, put the output of ifconfig in a pastebin and give us the addy to look at the output.10:14
vbvbi will enter kubuntu and will tell you10:14
vbvbplease wait10:14
reagleBRKLNwhy could that be?10:14
don_jr__ok10:14
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makuserudon_jr__: what do i use as the IP to ping google?10:15
jhutchinsreagleBRKLN: Are they faster in Edgy?10:15
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don_jr__reagleBRKLN I don't know10:15
reagleBRKLNjhutchins: yep10:15
don_jr__makuseru ping -c4 www.google.com    just like that10:15
makuseruoh ok10:15
reagleBRKLNi switched to feisty this week, and had been doing pretty good, but when i backed up my data yesterrday... slow10:15
jhutchinsreagleBRKLN: You'll probably get more help in #ubuntu+1 for feisty, but please make sure there's a bugreport on it ASAP.10:16
mefisto__anyone having slow performance in amarok 1.4.5?10:16
makuserudon_jr__: unknown host google10:16
reagleBRKLNjhutchins: thanks for channel10:16
reagleBRKLNi'm running feisty beta, writes to an external usb2 drive with ehci_hcd are horribly slow. ~2s to read 60MB, 50s to write10:16
reagleBRKLNoops10:16
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jhutchinsmakuseru: try 130.57.5.7010:16
don_jr__makuseru okay, so the computer is connected to the network just can't get out on the internet through the router.  And you've double checked that the modem is online and running into the router properly?10:17
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jhutchinsdon_jr__: You have not established that, only that he does not have DNS.10:17
makuserujhutchins: destination host unreachable10:17
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makuserudon_jr__: yes10:17
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jhutchinsNow you have established it.10:17
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makuserujhutchins: established what10:18
don_jr__jhutchins okay then.10:18
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don_jr__makuseru that you cannot get out of your local network10:18
jhutchinsdon_jr__: May I point out that he is chatting here, so I'm betting the modem's working.10:18
udrescuhuge thanks dude...10:18
udrescuit worked10:18
makuserujhutchins: ya, it works fine on my PC which is on the router10:18
don_jr__jhutchins thanks....forgive my mind for not catching everything.....I'm just goin through what my mind comes up with next....10:18
udrescuindeed ubuntu has the best community ever seen!!!10:18
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makuseruso what can i do to fix it/10:19
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don_jr__makuseru I'm lookin around, not sure right off the top of my head10:20
makuserudon_jr__: thank you very much10:20
sdf_don-jr:hi10:20
sdf_i enter kubutu and i found the irc10:21
mefisto__is anyone using amarok 1.4.5?10:21
dell190how can i make my Windows Laptop work with my Linux Desktop10:21
sdf_don jr10:21
don_jr__sdf_ this is? vbvb?10:21
sdf_you wait me10:22
sdf_ya10:22
don_jr__dell190 what do you mean 'work with'?10:22
sdf_i m10:22
makuserudell190: samba10:22
sdf_don jr10:22
sdf_please10:22
dell190Direct CAT5 Connection10:22
don_jr__sdf_ if you are on irc in kubuntu then it is connected to the internet...what help do you need?10:22
makuserudell190: samba10:22
sdf_when i use konquerro10:22
dell190whats that?10:23
sdf_give me error10:23
don_jr__dell190 yes, use samba or some other ftp server/client type to transfer files10:23
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don_jr__sdf_ what does the error say?10:23
makuseru!sambe @ dell19010:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sambe @ dell190 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
makuseru!samba @ dell19010:23
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about samba @ dell190 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:23
dell190where do i get it?10:23
makuserusince when does ubotu not know about samba10:23
makuseru!Samba10:23
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:23
makuseruthere we go10:23
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sdf_could not connect to host proxy           at port10:24
makuserudon_jr__: any ideas on my situation?10:24
don_jr__makuseru I'm still digging, havn't gave up yet10:24
makuserudon_jr__: houray!10:24
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emoXcorespainsh???10:26
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emoXcorehey10:26
mefisto__how do I downgrade software I've recently upgraded?10:26
emoXcorehelp10:26
emoXcorespanish10:26
don_jr__makuseru you on fiesty or edgy?10:26
don_jr__!es10:26
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.10:26
makuserudon_jr__: edgy10:26
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sdf_do jr:error?10:27
jhutchinsmefisto__: I think the howto has something about that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto10:27
don_jr__sdf_ I'm not sure just yet, what irc client are you using??10:27
mefisto__thanks jhutchins10:27
jhutchinsmefisto__: If nothing else, remove it and re-install the specific version.10:27
emoXcoreHey!! helpme I want to change my softwarw10:27
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sdf_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto10:29
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sdf_when i enter this web site10:29
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sdf_it  enter10:30
emoXcoren,n ok10:30
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emoXcorethak's boy10:30
sdf_and when i enter http://www.google.com10:30
don_jr__jhutchins what is the file that holds the etho0 cinfigurations??10:30
sdf_not enter10:30
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sdf_whey10:30
sdf_?10:30
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xcodsterxhow do i get pop-ups to work? on mozilla firefox kubuntu10:30
emoXcoren..n10:30
xcodsterxliek i want them to show10:30
don_jr__sdf_ it could be that google is down right now, and/or your network has it blocked?10:30
sdf_i don t understand what do you mean?10:31
don_jr__makuseru I have an idea, I'm just not sure where to find the file just yet.....once we can find it I'll have something else for you to check.10:31
makuserudon_jr__: alright!10:31
don_jr__sdf_ the google site may be down, or one of the routers yoru packets have to go through to get to it, or your local network may have it blocked.  Try another sight and see what happens10:32
sdf_ ok10:32
xcodsterxnvm i figured it out10:32
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cosmo_how do I install a tar.gz file?10:32
makuseru!tar.gz10:33
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression10:33
sdf_http://www.altavista.com10:33
xcodsterxwould i beable to run msn on kubuntu10:33
don_jr__makuseru pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please10:33
sdf_whaeni enter this websit10:33
sdf_don t enter10:33
makuserudon_jr__: is it long?10:33
sdf_and appear the same error10:34
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makuserudon_jr__: i dont wanna type out alot since i cant get anything off the laptop <<10:34
xcodsterxcan msn messneger run in kubuntu?10:34
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makuseruxcodsterx: use Gaim10:34
chijinxcodsterx: try kopete, it has msn10:34
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xcodsterxits bad10:34
don_jr__makuseru no it shouldn't be, you can just /query me and put it in there if you'd like, or do that and we can talk there about what I"m specifically looking for10:34
xcodsterxno cam support10:34
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chijinmakuseru: gaim would need gtk libraries and be a waste of resources..10:34
chijinmakuseru: it's a gnome app10:34
Underrunerrun msn in wine10:35
makuseruchijin: its better than kopete10:35
don_jr__Darn it, anyone here upgraded from dapper to edgy manually through console?10:35
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makuserui did10:35
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xcodsterxwhere do i get "wine"?10:35
mrigns!ping10:35
nrg88xcodsterx: how about kmess?10:35
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ubotupong10:35
nrg88it's a beautiful msn client for kde10:35
xcodsterxi need something that will suprot camera10:35
xcodsterxweb cam*10:35
don_jr__it's asking me to configure console-setup and there's a bunch of choices, I'm not sure which to choose....10:35
nrg88hm10:36
nrg88well, gaim doesn't support webcamera10:36
don_jr__xcodsterx try kopete10:36
nrg88neither do kmess10:36
nrg88kopete does10:36
xcodsterxi tried kopete but it wont let me view the other persons cam10:36
nrg88which version of kopete are you using?10:37
sdf_don jr:how can i do?10:37
sdf_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto10:38
sdf_what is  https?10:38
xcodsterxim not sure? what ver. i am using kubuntu 6.06 so it must be old?10:38
sdf_in first of website10:38
xcodsterxmaybe10:38
nrg88xcodsterx: yes, i think it's a bit old :|10:38
xcodsterxlol where do i update or download a new ver?10:39
nrg88the kopete developers have recently improved the msn webcam support for kopete i think10:39
xcodsterxthats good10:39
xcodsterxbutwhere do i get it10:39
don_jr__sdf_ http stands for hyper text transfer protocol, almost all websites use that unless it's ftp or something else.  that should automatically go in when you type in an address and hit enter.10:39
nrg88guys, does xcodsterx need kde 3.5.6 in order to install kopete 0.12.4 ?10:39
xcodsterxmy other nickname was death_slayer but i updatded my kubuntu with adept and crashed so i had to reinstall it10:39
xcodsterxwhast kde3.5.6 i know its the desktop but why do i have to update it in order to use kopete?10:40
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nrg88i'm afraid kde 3.5.6 is not available on 6.0610:41
sdf_don jr:it the first time to use kubuntu        can you give me website to download programms and songs10:41
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sdf_?10:41
flaviahi, are there other programs besides wengophone which I can use to connect to a wengophone account?10:41
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xcodsterxi think i know what's wrong with that guy not loading up google if he is using firefox or using a addin it sometimes blocks google.com i saw this on call for help10:41
xcodsterxlol10:41
don_jr__sdf_ that I can't do.  to find music you'll need a program like mule or limewire, as for programs, search adept for the ones you want10:42
sdf_and how can i install any program in kubuntu10:42
mike1980HI guys I am getting this error when starting proftpd " IPv6 getaddrinfo 'LAMP.phub.net.cable.rogers.com' error: Name or service not known10:42
don_jr__what is the commnd to shut off ath0 and turn it back on?  something like ifno auth0?? please!10:43
nrg88xcodsterx: can you please check what version of kde are you using?10:43
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supernixWell I changed all the dapper refs in the source.list to edgy and did the full upgrade using Adept so hope all goes well10:43
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xcodsterxhow do i check?10:44
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supernixI use the ATI video card so I hope it does not fail to be recognized after the reboot and update10:44
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xcodsterxhwo do i check KDE?10:44
nrg88well, in a KDE application, you click on Help and then About KDE10:45
xcodsterxokay10:45
xcodsterx3.5.210:45
xcodsterxKDE 3.5.210:45
don_jr__sdf_ installing programs is easiest through adept or synaptic, other than that you can sometimes find .deb files that will install a lil easier, than the other alternative..compiling them yourself.10:45
nrg88you might want to upgrade your kde version to 3.5.5: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php10:46
sdf_ sorry i didn t understand any thing from your speech10:46
xcodsterxnrg88: he i have kde 3.5.210:46
xcodsterxthanx10:47
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terrestre!spca55xx10:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spca55xx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:47
nrg88yw10:47
sdf_what about antivirus for kubuntu?10:48
nrg88sdf_: for what?10:48
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sdf_i want antivirus program for kubuntu?10:49
sdf_i want install anntivirus10:49
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nrg88i understand10:49
nonudawhat is the apt-get command to fix a broken packages?10:49
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CerezaI   dont know to use  kubuntuu?10:49
nrg88i think clamav, it looks for windows viruses i think10:49
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sdf_i want program for runing the mp3 files10:50
don_jr__sdf_ there's anot alot of virus' that hit linux..but I"m sure they've got something10:50
sdf_mp3 files in kubuntu10:50
don_jr__sdf_ kubuntu already has a couple things that run mp3's like Amorok10:51
apokryphossdf_: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic10:51
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Underruneru should just reinstall windows10:51
xcodsterxdoes anyone know where i can get wine?10:52
jhutchinsnonuda: apt-get -f install10:52
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Dunkelschubxcodsterx: sudo apt-get install wine10:52
nonudaok thanks10:52
don_jr__xcodsterx www.winehq.org I believe10:52
jhutchins!mp3 | sdf10:53
ubotusdf: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:53
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don_jr__Dunkelschub last time I tried that it gave me an older release than what's on the stie.10:53
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jhutchinsdon_jr__: codeweavers will always have a newer relese on their site.10:53
don_jr__jhutchins right, so get the newer one eh?10:54
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reagleBRKLNok, reported my external usb2 copy problem, appears to be the automount sync, which was not the default in edgy10:54
reagleBRKLNhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/10424110:54
dell190How can i set up a network on kubuntu..10:55
reagleBRKLNi know, if people weren't careful, they could loose data, but how do I set the default automount back to async in kubuntu?10:55
sdf_do jr:amarok do t play mp3 file10:55
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sdf_?????????10:55
michelynaii could someone please help me set up this file please10:56
xcodsterxso wich one do i download for kubuntu 6.06? http://www.winehq.org/site/download10:56
michelynit is secondlife10:56
michelynbut its a tar.bz2 file10:56
terrestreCereza: jaja hi10:56
jhutchinsdon_jr__: You've seen the factoid about newer isn't always better.10:57
dell190anyone???10:57
don_jr__jhutchins if dhcp will not auto set and the static ip's and gateways only allow local network connection, how can you get out past the router? any ideas?10:57
jhutchinssdf_: If you're not going to read what we send you we won't be able to help you.10:57
fdovingreagleBRKLN: have a look at /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi10:58
don_jr__jhutchins no it's not, but a coupleof the programs I tried to run on wine wouldn't run with the odler version that I got from synoptic, but will run with thenewer version from the site....so it's only my preference.10:58
michelynhow do i install the tar.bz2 file for the secondlife program on kubuntu10:58
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Possibly you need to set the route manually.10:58
sdf_don jr:help please10:58
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don_jr__how so?10:58
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Well, it's entirely up to you.  That's the great thing about linux.10:59
reagleBRKLNfdoving: thanks, checking it out10:59
don_jr__sdf_ Amorok won't play mp3's?10:59
jhutchins!build | michael10:59
ubotumichael: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:59
jhutchins!build | michelyn10:59
ubotumichelyn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)10:59
jhutchinsSometimes the bot's smarter about that...10:59
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sdf_how acn i download any file11:00
michelynwell the thing is that the program is an alpha and linux is the only os that i could get on this laptop11:00
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don_jr__how wouldI go about manually setting the route?11:00
sdf_and all files with extension rmp and gz11:00
michelyncause xp would not go11:00
fdovingreagleBRKLN: i belive the idea is to have async as the default. that might have changed.. i don't track those changes. but i recall it was discussed before edgy.11:00
don_jr__sdf_ same as you would anywhere else, findit on the website and click download11:00
sdf_what is it?11:00
michelynand seconlife doesnt support vista11:00
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don_jr__sdf_ rpm is for redhat, I don't know how to impliment them in kubuntu, and .gz files are compressed, similar to zip in windows11:01
reagleBRKLNfdoving: async was causing people to loose data, so maybe they flipped it, now i have to figure otu how to flip it back11:01
kumamotodon_jr__: still need help on the route thingie11:01
jhutchinsmichelyn: So read the page about compiling software.  Untar the file and read the README.11:01
michelynhow to untar11:01
fdovingreagleBRKLN: i belive the rationale for having async was that some flash devices simply were worn out way too fast.11:01
fdovingreagleBRKLN: with sync that is.11:02
don_jr__kumamoto not me, but someone else I"m trying to help.  what I did to get mine runningdidin't work for them11:02
fdoving!tar | michelyn11:02
ubotumichelyn: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression11:02
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michelyni have it in ark11:02
don_jr__All I had to do was set the iface eth0 inet dhcp....before it ended in static, once I changed it to dhcp it worked fine...didn't work for this guy....11:03
sdf_don jr: what are the extensions for the files that run in kubuntu?11:03
michelynbut now what do i do11:03
don_jr__sdf_ There arn't any specifically.  gz files are usually compressed source files you will have to manually compile and install, .deb files can be extracted and auto installed for the most part, it's best to just search in adept or synaptic for what you want and get it from there.11:03
kumamotosdf_: there are no specific file extensions for kubuntu (don't mind me answering that)11:04
fdoving!software | sdf_11:04
ubotusdf_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents11:04
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don_jr__jhutchins can you direct me to a site or channel that can help me to figure out how to manually route the network?11:04
fdovingdon_jr__: what's your network problem?11:04
terrestresomeone using a 0ac8:305b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. webcam?11:04
terrestre!webcam11:04
ubotuInstructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras11:04
kumamotodon_jr__: route add default gw <IPADDR>11:04
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don_jr__fdoving well, it's not mine, it's makuseru's problem.  He's having trouble getting out.11:05
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don_jr__kumamoto his default gateway is correct, he has access to the local network, just no dhcp to get past the router11:05
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terrestre!easycam211:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about easycam2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
xcodsterxhow do i install wine i am add the respotories but it says there is an error with the apckages trhew adet?11:05
don_jr__dsn11:05
jhutchinsdon_jr__: I've seen someone trying to troubleshoot a similar issue, and they haven't resolved it.  Wireless is still unstable and unpredictible.11:05
xcodsterxadept*11:05
superkirbyartist!stepmania11:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about stepmania - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:05
kumamotois his router giving him dhcp offers11:06
xcodsterx!wine11:06
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:06
don_jr__jhutchins he's connected via cat5 cable, not wireless11:06
fdovingdon_jr__: if the default gateway is correct, and he can ping it, then everything should work, and it's all up to the router to handle the rest.11:06
don_jr__kumamoto no, that's the error he got when he changed it from static to dhcp, no offers11:06
kumamotodon_jr__: bad11:06
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Pretty strange, could be flaky hardware, bad driver.11:06
kumamotoif his internal network is setup as static it should remain static11:07
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don_jr__kumamoto so that's a problem with teh router.  The odd part is that his desktop can get on wired, but not the laptop.11:07
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Could be he's got pppoe and needs to log in to get out.11:07
asaupwhat can i use to mount a .img file11:07
kumamotolaptop wireless?11:07
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Could be the router doesn't do nat and he only gets one IP.11:07
don_jr__kumamoto no he's hardwired with the laptop aswell11:08
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kumamotoasaup: use a image viewer11:08
don_jr__jhutchins dind't think of that.....can test that though, shut down the desktop and static set the laptop IP to the desktops IP to find out couldn't ya?11:08
kumamotois the desktop static or dhcp11:08
don_jr__kumamoto not sure, I'll check11:08
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Hard to say, could be linked to the MAC, it's hard to know what a windows box is actually doing.11:09
asaupkumamoto: i want something to mount .img not to view image files11:09
don_jr__they are both kubuntu11:09
jhutchinsdon_jr__: SOme cable modems will lock in the mac of the computer, they need to be reset.  Some systems actually log the mac centrally and you have to contact Customer Support to change PC's.11:10
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sdf_how can i install gz file?11:10
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don_jr__kumamoto I'm finding out if the desktop is static or dhcp now.11:10
kumamotoasaup: again use an image viewer11:10
jhutchinssdf_: Better to wait until you're a little more familiar with linux.11:10
kumamotothat will 'mount' an .img file11:10
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jhutchinsasaup: Helps to know what the file came from.11:11
kumamotosdf_: gz files are not install there are unzipped11:11
don_jr__kumamoto the desktop is dhcp enabled11:11
don_jr__not static11:11
asaupits an iso file but the format is img11:11
kumamotoah11:11
asaupyou know what i mean its a backup of a cd11:12
kumamotodamn11:12
jhutchinssdf_: You will have better luck if you stick to packages that are available within ubuntu until you're more familiar.11:12
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sdf_how can i unzib it?11:12
jhutchins!software | sdf_11:12
ubotusdf_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents11:12
don_jr__jhutchins, kumamoto, cable modem, with a dlink router....so the cable modem locking the mac may be it....not sure11:12
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kumamotodon_jr__: again static or dhcp11:13
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Ok, the dlink router should be doing dhcp then, perhaps he should look at the router settings.  Perhaps the port is bad, he should try the known good port.  Perhaps he should try swapping cables.11:13
don_jr__kumamoto what ya mean? the router or the modem??  his desktop, that runs kubuntu and is online just fine is dhcp, when the laptop was set from static to dhcp it won't work.11:13
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x_linkHi.11:14
x_linkJust installed Kubuntu 6.10, it worked this time.11:14
x_linkCan I not have KControl in my K Menu?11:14
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kumamotothe router is it provide dhcp or setup statically11:14
x_linkI don't want to use System Menu11:14
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alberiquehi11:14
don_jr__kumamoto it must provide dhcp if the desktop is using dhcp through it right now eh?11:14
kumamotoyah11:15
mehdihey everybody11:15
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don_jr__he is changing ports and cables right now to see if it's an issue there.  then I'll step into the router settings next11:15
kumamotoso if his /etc/network/interface has iface set to dhcp then have him run /etc/init.d/networking restart11:15
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ubuntui use norton ghost 7 to make backups. i just backuped a linux ext3 partition . got pretty good. but when i tried to paste it on a linux partition. i every time get the error "read sector error" what can i do . please help.11:15
alberique>11:16
dell190can someone tell me if there is a network setup wizard in kubuntu?11:16
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don_jr__kumamoto I'll do that, we did and ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 but didn't restart the entire networking...we'll give it a shot next.11:16
kumamotodell190: there is one call knetworkmanager11:16
don_jr__when he did the ifup eth0 it came back with no dhcpoffers11:16
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michelynok i have the tar untar and is on desktop11:16
dell190kumamoto: where can i get that?11:16
kumamotoapt-get11:17
michelynthe read me says to run ./secondlife11:17
kumamotomamoto, cable modem, with a dlink router....so the cable modem locking the mac may be it....not sure11:17
reagleBRKLNfdoving: once I edit preferences.fdi, do I have to restart hal or something?11:17
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jhutchinsdon_jr__: Ok, the dlink router should be doing dhcp then, perhaps he should look at the router settings.  Perhaps the port is bad, he should try the known good port.  Perhaps he should try swapping cables.11:17
michelynbut under the run command it doesnt happen11:17
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jhutchinsubuntu: Contact Norton tech support.11:17
kumamotodon_jr__: is the router connected to a switch or directly to the laptop?11:18
don_jr__jhutchins he is swapping cables and ports now, when he get's back we'll check it again and if no changes we'll try the networking restart.11:18
don_jr__kumamoto driect11:18
kumamotocould be asking the obvious here11:18
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michelynhow do i get this thing installed11:18
kumamotothen u need a cross connect cable11:18
don_jr__kumamoto I've never used a crossover cable to connect to a router....11:18
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kumamotodon_jr__: wait is one of those router/switch all in one?11:19
fdovingreagleBRKLN: yeah, it can't hurt to do that. note that it might bring down your network and similar. 'sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal restart'11:19
reagleBRKLNah, /etc/init.d/dbus restart11:19
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don_jr__kumamoto yes, all in one11:19
fdovingyeah, you can restart the whole dbus, that will restart quite some more stuff though..11:20
ubuntujhutchins: no use. can you tell where to get the latest version of norton ghost?11:20
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kumamotodon_jr__: damn I am so used to my home mad router i forget others11:20
jhutchinsubuntu: Wal-Mart?11:20
mel_kukihi all11:20
x_linkI just installed Kubuntu, is there any repo I should add or something?11:20
kumamotodon_jr__: check and make Sure that the dhcp server in the router is providing more than one IPADDR11:20
jhutchins!software | x_link11:21
ubotux_link: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents11:21
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x_linkjhutchins: I installed the oem way11:21
x_linkDoes that matter?11:21
ubuntujhutchins: i think ghost 911:22
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inanimateAdept keeps saying "A new version of Kubuntu is available. Click "Next" to upgrade." But 'next' is grayed out?11:22
superkirbyartistHow can I emulate a right mouse click?11:23
jhutchinsx_link: Don't know what that means, but no it shouldn't matter, kubuntu is kubuntu as far as I know.11:23
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x_linkjhutchins: hehe ok thanks!11:23
anti_pophow can i scan for bad sectors on my HD ?11:23
jhutchinsinanimate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto11:23
x_linkjhutchins: I'm pretty new with GNU/Linux, so sorry if I ask to much.11:24
don_jr__kumamoto how do I check that? I can get to the setup page but where will it say what IP's it will give out?  And, there were 5 winblows boxes connected to it yesterday11:24
jhutchinsanti_pop: fsck, the equivalent of chkdsk.  You should probably read the man page for it first.11:24
mel_kukii do have a problem with the adept manager. version upgrade is not working with the upgrade wirzard. error : could not download the release announcements. internet connection is up and running. any ideas ?11:24
jhutchinsx_link: No problem.  Everybody starts somewhere.11:25
kumamotodon_jr__: that I wouldn't know I haven't dealt with dlinks11:25
mel_kukino useful information in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ *.log11:25
ubuntujhutchins: what is wal mart?11:25
x_linkjhutchins: Yes =)11:25
x_linkhrmm11:25
inanimatejhutchins: You mean just forget about Adept and run dist-upgrade?11:25
x_linkDoesn Kubuntu have VLC or Firestarter in it's repository?11:25
jhutchinsubuntu: World's Largest discount store chain.11:25
anti_popjhutchins: is there a GUI for fsck availble ?11:25
kumamotox_link: yeah it has11:26
don_jr__great konqueror wont' work on my desktop now....I'm going to have to start all over again......annoying11:26
conanm4vlc is in the repos11:26
kumamotoor u can get from vlc site11:26
x_linkkumamoto: apt-get install vlc or apt-get install firestarter doesn't work.11:26
jhutchinsinanimate: Work around it from the console, yes.11:26
ubuntujhutchins:  why did you gave the name to me11:26
conanm4they might be turned off11:26
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kumamotox_link: sudo apt-cache search vlc11:26
jhutchinsubuntu: Norton Ghost is a commercial program.  You buy it.  You don't get free, volunteer support for it.11:26
conanm4check in adept by going to manage repositories11:26
ubuntucan any body tell how can i paste a .gho file image to my partition. i used norton ghost but its giving read sector error. do i have any other software choice?\11:27
x_linkkumamoto: I did that11:27
kumamotoconanm4: it won't appear I had the same problem11:27
kumamotowhat u see11:27
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jhutchinsanti_pop: No idea, besides which you'll want to be able to unmount the partition anyway.11:27
x_linkoem@sedde:~$ sudo apt-cache search vlc11:27
x_linkoem@sedde:~$11:27
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kumamotox_link: also try sudo aptitude search vlc11:27
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sdf_i can t use adept to install programms  what do i do?11:27
jhutchins!info vlc11:27
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB11:27
x_linkoem@sedde:~$ sudo aptitude search vlc11:28
x_linkoem@sedde:~$11:28
pollyoHello11:28
x_linkkumamoto: It doesn't find anything at all.11:28
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conanm4so can you even open adept or does it give you an error?11:28
don_jr__I can burn an iso with kubuntu right?11:29
mel_kukiam i the only on with the problem "version upgrade error" -> fetchy. There is nothing to find in the www.11:29
sdf_and how can i update          adept11:29
yuriydon_jr__: yes, with k3b11:29
sdf_?????11:29
jhutchinssdf_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto11:30
pollyoDoes linux have an application like dvdshrink (for windows)?  I've tried some dvd programs but they do not appear to work as fast or as good as the windows program.11:30
don_jr__Okay, I"m on firefox I try to download an ISO and it opens it in a new window instead of downloading, how can I fix this?11:31
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x_linkStrange11:31
kumamotox_link: trying to find the repo11:31
georgeb!xgl11:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:31
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georgeb!beryl11:31
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:31
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jhutchinspollyo: Yes, more than one (as with everything linux).11:32
pollyoI've heard some reports that compiz and beryl may be working together to create a single application.11:32
jhutchinsThere's k9copy, but there are others.11:32
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x_linkkumamoto: I don't know where to look.11:32
jhutchinspolly: Beryl is a fork of compiz due to disagreements with Novell/SuSE developers.11:32
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pollyojhutchins: I've tried k9copy and k3b and they appear to operate much slower.  Do you have any suggestions?11:32
superkirbyartistHow can I emulate a right click?11:32
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reagleBRKLNhrmmm... i editing my preferences.fdi but now i don't get an automount at all... maybe should reboot...?11:33
jhutchinspollyo: Nope, haven't tried it personally, but you can look on sourceforge and freshmeat and google.11:33
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pollyojhutchins: There have been some articles online stating that the two groups may work together and work out the differences.11:33
kumamotox_link: damn I know I edited some repos in the /etc/apt/sources.list and also add the repo from vlc.com11:34
georgeb!feisty11:34
ubotuThe next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)11:34
superkirbyartistI have an iMac.  There is no way for me to do a right click.  Is there a keyboard shortcut?11:34
pollyo!vlc11:34
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs11:34
jhutchinspollyo: There are some dramatic difference in speeds for various transcoders.  mplayer's usually an important part.11:34
don_jr__why is it when I click to download a file it opens it in the browser instead of downloading?11:34
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yuriydon_jr__: umm.. save target as? it should be opening it with k3b..11:34
jhutchinspollyo: tovid for remastering.11:34
kumamotox_link: can u find mozilla-plugin-vlc11:34
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kumamotoor libvlc011:35
don_jr__yuriy I tried that, right click only gives me save link as, not save target....11:35
x_linkkumamoto: hrmm. why can't I right click --> Create --> New folder ?11:35
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jhutchinsdon_jr__: Incorrect mime type on the webserver.11:35
x_linkI can do that on my second hdd, but not the hdd that I installed Kubuntu on.11:35
jhutchinsdon_jr__: Save link as should save the target.11:35
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yuriydon_jr__: save link as is firefox speak for the same thing11:35
snook353i made a fat32 partition, but ubuntu says it has a problem with fstar and mtab.  here's my fstab file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14455/11:35
snook353*fstab11:35
don_jr__okay, well I found anotehr mirror that is allowing me to download it properly11:36
x_linkkumamoto: No, it doesn't find mozilla-plugin-vlc either.11:36
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x_linkI will switch back to my other distro, I can't find any of the programs that I like/use.11:36
jhutchinssnook353: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions will have useful information for you.11:37
snook353thanks11:37
x_linkI will get 2 PIII computers next week, I will install Kubuntu 6.10 then again.11:37
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terrestre!ls11:37
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:37
pollyojhutchins: What is tovid?  A library or an application?11:37
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don_jr__I'm downloading edgy now, I goofed up trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy things are all goofed up now...heh11:38
jhutchinspolly: A collection of scripts verging on being an application.11:38
pollyojhutchins: Is that in the repos by default or should I look it up on google?11:38
jhutchins!find tovid11:39
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ubotuPackage/file tovid does not exist in edgy11:39
pollyojhutchins: I'll check adept I have feisty installed.11:39
pollyojhutchins: Thanks.  If I do not find it there then I'll google it.11:40
jhutchinspollyo: Too bad, other distros have it, but it's good to run the SVN version anyway: http://tovid.wikia.com11:40
pollyojhutchins: Thanks for the link.11:40
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jhutchinspollyo: Also look in usenet newsgroups for discussions.11:40
reagleBRKLNfdoving: rebooted, automount happens, but it's still sync, oh well...11:40
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jhutchinsreagleBRKLN: Can you set that in fstab?11:41
reagleBRKLNthat assumes I know which sd{b,f,g} it ends up at, right?11:41
reagleBRKLNcan't do that11:41
jhutchinsTime to go bother the horses.11:41
fdovingreagleBRKLN: you can hack /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy... something then.11:42
fdovingreagleBRKLN: weird that the etc ones didn't override that.. though. i'm not 100% up2date on this.11:42
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reagleBRKLNwell, i'll just remount it i suppose, and see what happens with the bug... if there is a change in feisty, its' a big one11:43
terrestre!ln11:43
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:43
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pollyoAnyone know if a debian package for (k)ubuntu edgy will work fine on a feisty?11:45
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luis_ola11:46
don_jr__!es11:46
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:46
kkerwinHmm. What viewer opens .docbook files.11:46
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don_jr__I'm updating from ubuntu dapper, from within the KDE konsole, will it update and install kubuntu from there or is it going to do gnome and kde alike?11:47
letynsofthi i have problem... i were updating when my PC fallen (electric fallen) and now i can't run any install / updates... can i fix it?11:47
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kumamotodid x_link disappear11:48
kumamotofound vlc repo for him http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html11:48
letynsoftwhich?11:48
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letynsoftE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem11:49
don_jr__and did you run that?11:49
letynsoftok... trying...11:50
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jhutchins!adeptfix | letynsoft11:52
ubotuletynsoft: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 11:52
don_jr__How can I remove gnome completely from my computer?  I installed with ubuntu and then I've installed KDE into it, how can I get rid of gnome now?11:53
letynsoftok thanks... i'll try11:53
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jhutchinsdon_jr__: Do a clean install of kubuntu?11:53
kumamotodon_jr__: just a hunch sudo aptitude purge gnome11:53
letynsoftha.. it works now... really thanks a lot :)11:54
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kumamototrue could do a complete kubuntu install from scratch11:54
don_jr__jhutchins I'm downloading kubuntu edgy now to do that with my desktop, but don't want to wipe and reinstall on my laptop if I can keep from it.11:54
don_jr__Kumamoto I'll try that11:54
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don_jr__unable to lock the administration directory11:55
don_jr__and could not get /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 process' temporarily unavailable11:56
don_jr__gave me those 2 lines when I tried to sudo aptitude purge gnome11:56
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Cerezaspanish11:57
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emoXcorespanish???11:57
don_jr__!es11:57
emoXcorehey?11:57
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:57
emoXcoreoks11:57
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malakoffhi11:58
emoXcorethanks you11:58
emoXcore_11:58
don_jr__de nada11:58
malakoffI have now sound on my fresh kubuntu installation, but it worked from the livecd.11:58
raffytaffyhdparm on my /dev/hdb ( cdrom ) gives me this  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device11:58
raffytaffy??11:58
malakoffThe configuration in the sound center is the same.11:59
raffytaffyany idea as to what it means11:59
malakoffWhat should I look for ?11:59
kumamotoraffytaffy: got a cd int he cdrom11:59
malakofflsmod | grep sound returns soundcore11:59
raffytaffyno cd in there11:59
raffytaffyi turned dma on and IO_support   =  3 (32-bit w/sync)11:59
kumamotono cd to test hdparm with12:00
raffytaffyto speed up my burns12:00
raffytaffyahh ok12:00
raffytaffygotcha12:00
kumamotodon't worry about the cdrom just watch for the actual drives12:00
malakoffI don't understand because it worked from the livecd but not on the installed system. after a reboot it worked, and after another reboot it doesn't work anymore.12:00
malakoffany hint ?12:00
Cosmo_running commands through konsole I have got WoW running, is there a way I can set it up so that it does that using a icon or something so I don't have to manually do it every time?12:00
Cosmo_[2007-04-07 17:00:02]  <Cosmo_> I'm fairly new to linux/kubuntu12:00
raffytaffymy hdparm on hda works good12:00
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Cosmo_stupid copy and paste12:01
kumamotoraffytaffy: there u go12:01
don_jr__how can I purge gnome from my system, when I ran sudo aptitude purge gnome, I got these 2 lines :could not get /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 process' temporarily unavailable)  And unable to lock the administration directory.  How can I resolve this?12:01
raffytaffyi did all this kumamoto to try and speed up when i burn a dvd /cd12:01
kumamotodon_jr__: u got another application using dpkg12:02
raffytaffysounds like updater or synaptic is open12:02
raffytaffy^12:02
nonudayup close it12:02
kumamototrue12:02
don_jr__like what? what else could be accessing it?  all I have open is konqueror, konversation here and the shell I"m typing in12:03
raffytaffysystem monitor is a good place to check imo12:03
don_jr__would this wallet thing or kopete be accessing it?12:03
kumamotodon_jr__: ps auxw | grep dpkg12:03
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don_jr__kumamoto when I ran that command I got this return :don       6515  3.0  0.5   2880   796 pts/1    R+   17:03   0:00 grep dpkg12:04
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raffytaffyid of process12:05
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don_jr__how do I shut it off? that makes no sense to me the numbers there..12:05
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erinI am new to Kubuntu and I want to know how to add widgets12:07
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don_jr__gotta figure out how to shut that off I guess, still same error12:07
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iainhey folks I've got display problems on my Latitude D420 and have tried everything on the wiki page unter fixres12:07
iainanyone got any ideas?12:07
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raffytaffywhat kind of display problem12:08
iainlol sorry my bad ;)12:08
iainresolution is too low12:08
raffytaffyhave u added the right resolution to xorg.conf ?12:08
iainresearching it I was told 915resolution was the way to fix it12:08
|lostbyte|whats the shortcut key to make a windows sticky ?12:09
raffytaffywhat is your current resolution ..and what do u want it to be12:09
terrestresomebody with feisty?12:09
don_jr__When I try to open konqueror it tells me it's malformated, how can I repair this?12:09
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terrestrejaja don_jr__12:11
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terrestrei told you, that when im do that, was headeach12:11
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iainI'm currently on 1024x768 and the monitor's true native resolution is 1280 x 80012:11
iainmy specs are here: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/latit_d420?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&~section=specs12:11
eeanmiain: does xrandr list the correct resolution?12:12
eeanm(just run that command in konsole)12:12
raffytaffyiain : sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:12
kumamotodon_jr__: do u have adept running?12:12
raffytaffyscroll down to screens12:12

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