[12:12] <josh_>  PhinnFort: me neither.
[12:15] <flyte_> I can't connect to my kubuntu machine via freeNX, does anyone know how to interpret the freenx log?
[12:16] <mloo> Q: I just tried to install ubuntu 7.04 on my acer aspire5020/ATIX700 videocard. The gui was completely messed up. I could not reach any "continue buttons". Anybody had similar problems?
[12:16] <junocdx> Anyone have any experiance with ATICONFIG?
[12:17] <jhutchins> junocdx: Too many different possibilities.
[12:17] <jhutchins> !ati | junocdx
[12:17] <ubotu> junocdx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:17] <junocdx> jhutchins: i have the drivers installed.  I need help getting it set the way I want
[12:18] <jhutchins> mloo: Feisty (7.04) is still in #ubuntu+1
[12:18] <mloo> not really. fglrx worx fine for me. thoug I have to set the resolution in xorg.conf manually
[12:18] <mloo> I know... I would like to test it...
[12:19] <mloo> just got a 320G external gd. So I have some room to experiment :)
[12:19] <mloo> gd-->hd :/
[12:19] <jhutchins> mloo: Right, just saying you'll probably get better answers to Feisty questions in that channel.
[12:19] <jhutchins> mloo: All I can do here is point you to !fixres.
[12:20] <mloo> thnx
[12:21] <junocdx> so noone can help me?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> junocdx: i got fedup with fooling around ATI config files ...I installed "Envy" and now everything works
 what do you want to acomplish?
[12:23] <BluesKaj> !Envy | junocdx
[12:23] <ubotu> junocdx: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[12:23] <mloo> 3D/openGL/compiz?
[12:24] <junocdx> I have dual monitors.  I want to change the resolutions on them.
[12:24] <junocdx> and I'm not sure what I'm supposed ot save to either
[12:24] <aaroncampbell> I keep getting this error: configure: error: Could not find liblcms.a
[12:24] <aaroncampbell> however, that package isn't available, and I have liblcms1
[12:24] <Daisuke_Ido> install liblcms1-dev
[12:25] <Daisuke_Ido> the development files are what it's looking for, not the library itself
[12:25] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  i read the site and i install axwtv and camora, noone detect my cam, but there is another option but i am not sure how to fix it
[12:25] <mloo> hmm... most of this stuff is ultimately stored in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:26] <PhinnFort> hendaus: can you unplug and the replug in your camera
[12:26] <PhinnFort> hendaus: then run "dmesg | tail"
[12:26] <aaroncampbell> Daisuke_Ido: I'm doing that now.  Thanks
[12:26] <Daisuke_Ido> aaroncampbell: you're welcome
[12:26] <billytwowilly> hi, anyone using ktorrent? Do you know if it respects private torrent tags? I.E if I am downloading from a private tracker can I have dht on and being used by the non-private trackers?
[12:27] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  unplug? u mean take the usb and then put it
[12:27] <PhinnFort> hendaus: yes
[12:27] <Daisuke_Ido> billytwowilly: to my knowledge it does respect the 'private' flag, at least a sight better than bitcomet ever did
[12:27] <billytwowilly> Daisuke_Ido: thanks.
[12:27] <hendaus> and where i type dmesg | tail
[12:28] <PhinnFort> hendaus: in a konsole
[12:28] <BluesKaj> yes billytwowilly, afaik it's in the configure options in ktorrent
[12:28] <PhinnFort> hendaus: k-menu -> system -> konsole
[12:29] <billytwowilly> BluesKaj: it's not there in the ktorrent in feisty. Unless it's hidden somewhere other than the dht settings.
[12:30] <linuse2> hello, ciao
[12:31] <PhinnFort> billytwowilly: you don't set the private flag, it's set in the .torrent file, afaik
[12:31] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14299/
[12:31] <BluesKaj> billytwowilly: check the custom IP section in general options
[12:31] <samandbeth> I can't play .mp3 with amaroK or Kaffine
[12:32] <PhinnFort> !mp3 | samandbeth
[12:32] <ubotu> samandbeth: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:32] <PhinnFort> hendaus: go to kopete -> configure -> devices
[12:32] <DJAnubis> hallo
[12:32] <mloo> hallo
[12:32] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  i have amsn also
[12:32] <billytwowilly> yah, I now how the private flag works;) BluesKajall that is in custom ip is "send the tracker a custom ip" bleow that is the dht settings which has  "use dht to get additional peers" which is selected,
[12:32] <PhinnFort> hendaus: use kopete, i know kopete better
[12:32] <DJAnubis> man, it's been like a few days of straight asshole host in florida beach house
[12:32] <DJAnubis> oops
[12:33] <DJAnubis> sorry lang
[12:33] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:33] <mloo> :D
[12:33] <mloo> ola
[12:33] <PhinnFort> que tal?
[12:33] <mloo> tudo bem?
[12:33] <DJAnubis> um, where can I report a bug?
[12:33] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: bugs.launchpad.net
[12:33] <mloo> right here :D
[12:33] <DJAnubis> :(
[12:33] <DJAnubis> I mean, IRC wise
[12:34] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: try here
[12:34] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  it shows konica webcam model, and mine is intel
[12:34] <DJAnubis> I can't take any time to fill out a form, I'm really tired
[12:34] <MK_Mike> hello, i downloaded some updates today and i restarted and now the sound doesnt work any ideas?
[12:34] <PhinnFort> hendaus: do you have a video feed?
[12:34] <mloo> pop d question
[12:34] <DJAnubis> well, it's a bug with konqueror
[12:34] <PhinnFort> hendaus: it's probably a Konica chip in a Intel casing
[12:34] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: then file it at bugs.kde.org
[12:34] <BluesKaj> !codecs | samandbeth
[12:34] <ubotu> samandbeth: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:34] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: or ask in #kde
[12:34] <DJAnubis> ty
[12:34] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: there are plenty of devs in #kde
[12:35] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  video feed?????? whats that
[12:35] <PhinnFort> hendaus: do you see the video from the camera in the settings?
[12:35] <PhinnFort> or is it just blue
[12:35] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  no
[12:35] <PhinnFort> hendaus: what do you see?
[12:35] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  black color
[12:36] <mloo> MK_Mike: what kindof updates?
[12:36] <PhinnFort> hendaus: try moving your webcam around
[12:36] <PhinnFort> hendaus: also, go to "options" and turn on automatic stuff
[12:37] <MK_Mike> mloo: i think it was xorg-core or somthing and some kde stuff
[12:37] <PhinnFort> hendaus: you can read about what a "feed" is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed
[12:37] <PhinnFort> under "telecommunications"
[12:37] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:38] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  i go to options turn everything on
[12:38] <PhinnFort> hendaus: i mean automatic brightness and contrast
[12:39] <mloo> it's always "dangerous" to update (a) kernels (b) xorg. My experience is that it's easyier to do that when you update the whole system. Well, that's no help to you.. Do you get any error msgs?
[12:39] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes
[12:40] <MK_Mike> mloo: nope lol
[12:40] <PhinnFort> hendaus: still don't see anything?
[12:40] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes
[12:41] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  is it matter to change the usb to another place?
[12:41] <PhinnFort> hendaus: sorry I can't help you more... I don't know what could be wrong
[12:41] <PhinnFort> hendaus: the Linux kernel finds your camera and sets it up
[12:42] <mloo> how about trying "play <fyourfile>.wav" at the command line that's pretty basic. See if you get an error there
[12:42] <PhinnFort> hendaus: and the applications find it (kopete), but it doesn't seem like they get any video from it
[12:42] <PhinnFort> hendaus: do you have different inputs?
[12:42] <PhinnFort> udner "device" in the kopete configuration
[12:42] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  coz on windows i use it and it works fine and also my cell phone nokia 6230
[12:42] <ubuntu> hi
[12:43] <ubuntu> i was wondering if any of you know how to acces files on nfts?
[12:43] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  no
[12:43] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  just konica webcam
[12:43] <PhinnFort> hendaus: :S
[12:43] <PhinnFort> hendaus: this has really got me stumped
[12:43] <jamesarthur> ubuntu: ntfs-3g
[12:44] <PhinnFort> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu
[12:44] <mloo> ubuntu: reading is easy, just mount it. Writing is -as far as i know- not 100% supported yet
[12:44] <hendaus> ok try to help me about my cellphone nokia 6230 i want to trasfer all the photos
[12:44] <PhinnFort> mloo: with ntfs-3g, yes
[12:44] <PhinnFort> hendaus: i need sleep soon;)
[12:44] <PhinnFort> but ok
[12:44] <ubuntu> how do i mount it?
[12:44] <N6REJ> jhutchins: I figured out how to play a file over the network drive.  Will it automatically add it to the database?
[12:44] <mloo> well, where is your ntfs disk?
[12:44] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  oK
[12:44] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[12:44] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:45] <N6REJ> lol
[12:45] <mloo> is it external? or internal?
[12:45] <david> hey, anyone here fancy joining in the quiz on #ubuntu-trivia
[12:45] <feru> !list
[12:45] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:45] <PhinnFort> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu
[12:45] <ubotu> ubuntu: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[12:46] <steve__> I know this is a ubuntu channel but would anyone know anything about sam linux?
[12:46] <ubuntu> is internal
[12:46] <ubuntu> they are partitions
[12:47] <steve__> I'm trying to use some of the features in Sam Linux in my kubuntu system and I'm a newbie so I could use some help
[12:48] <BluesKaj> what features?
[12:48] <mloo> it is not already in mounted in /media/<somedir> ?
[12:49] <steve__> BluesKaj, the have a docking bar called wbar that I like and also when you move windows around the window bends with the movement.
[12:49] <ubuntu> i am now reading directions
[12:50] <ubuntu> but i don't know how to execute them
[12:50] <BluesKaj> steve, beryl eye candy
[12:50] <Daisuke_Ido> BluesKaj: part of it, at least
[12:50] <BluesKaj> !beryl
[12:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:50] <steve__> I thought it had to do with using xfce as the desktop manager which I installed but the windows don't move nor do I have the docking bar
[12:51] <steve__> I looked in synaptic package manager and didn't see beryl
[12:51] <Daisuke_Ido> that's because beryl isn't part of the main distribution yet
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> not until 7.04
[12:52] <steve__> ok, so how do I get it
[12:52] <mloo> Have you checked if the disk can be accessed via /media/<somedir> ?
[12:52] <mloo> I think it's mounted there standard in a dualboot configuration
[12:52] <Daisuke_Ido> #ubuntu-effects has a lot of links in their topic for how to get it installed
[12:52] <steve__> remember I'm a newbie so if it isn't in the package manager I don't know how to get it
[12:52] <BluesKaj> steve_, check this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Unofficial_Ubuntu_6.10_.28Edgy_Eft.29_Starter_Guide
[12:52] <steve__> ok,  will
[12:53] <rysiek|pl> hi all
[12:53] <tmbg> someone wanted me for something?
[12:54] <tmbg> it isn't in my scrollback
[12:54] <AxlRose> anyone know where I can find a Rummy game for linux haha
[12:54] <steve__> I have tried to install some things by using apt-get but even though I followed the instructions I never could find the programs in any of my application menus
[12:54] <AxlRose> I'm having a heck of time finding one
[12:54] <ubuntu> which is the driver that only reads nfts?
[12:54] <Delphi_aka_Findu> ntfs-3g?
[12:54] <rysiek|pl> guys, is there a way to get a line or two to get executed *every* time system goes to suspend-to-ram or wakes-up from it? I am not talking about acpi scripts, though, I'd like to do it through the KDE facilities (the lil' battery icon in the systray, etc)
[12:55] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: only reads? ntfs
[12:55] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: ntfs-3g reads and writes, but you can ass the "ro" option so it will only read
[12:55] <ubuntu> oh that's nice
[12:55] <goldangel> hello, i installed Kubuntu recently and i would like to burn a new cd but K3B doesn't want to burn any cd. what can I do ? (little precision : i want to burn a ISO file)
[12:56] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: methinks it's even the better way - ntfs-3g has a better support of the ntfs filesystem
[12:56] <rysiek|pl> sed "s/of/for/"
[12:57] <mloo> I think ntfs is supported standard for reading. I never had any trouble reading USB ntfs disks. Never had to do anything. probably you can mount it, without specifying fstype. It will be autodetected
[12:57] <goldangel> hello, i installed Kubuntu recently and i would like to burn a new cd but K3B doesn't want to burn any cd. what can I do ? (little precision : i want to burn a ISO file)
[12:57] <rysiek|pl> goldangel: what's the error message?
[12:57] <ubuntu> ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[12:57] <hendaus> PhinnFort,  yes i got two programs xgnokii mobile phone and phone manager
[12:57] <ubuntu> no my bad
[12:58] <ubuntu> thats not the message
[12:58] <goldangel> it just says : Problem
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: mount -t ntfs-3g -o ro /dev/somedevice /mount/point
[12:58] <ubuntu> Could not mount device.
[12:58] <ubuntu> The reported error was:
[12:58] <ubuntu> mount: can't find /dev/hdc2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[12:58] <ubuntu> that's the error message
[12:59] <mloo> I think you have to be root to mount
[12:59] <ubuntu> i don't even know how to open terminal XD
[12:59] <rysiek|pl> ubuntu: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o ro /dev/hdc2 /some/mountpoint
[01:00] <steve__> hey guys, I went to the link you mentioned and found where it shows how to install beryl but there are several versions. How do I know which one to use?
[01:00] <Delphi> ubuntu: then I think you will have som trouble using ntfs-3g. As far as I recall, it doesn't have any graphicall interface...
[01:03] <ubuntu> well. thank you all
[01:04] <mloo> you have access?
[01:04] <ubuntu> no
[01:04] <mloo> o :s
[01:04] <ubuntu> not yet
[01:04] <ubuntu> i have to open terminal
[01:04] <ubuntu> and i don't know where is it
[01:04] <mloo> in the "start menu" under system, click on "console"
[01:05] <mloo> Konsole terminal program
[01:05] <ubuntu> you're right ^_^
[01:05] <ubuntu> thanks
[01:06] <rysiek|pl> steve__: join #ubuntu-effects
[01:06] <mloo> then, copy rysiek|pl's command
[01:06] <mloo> this one: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g -o ro /dev/hdc2 /some/mountpoint
[01:06] <snikker> how can i cange my time zone settings? (CEST to GTM or UTC)
[01:07] <mloo> then, you can access your disk with konqueror or firefox or whatever...
[01:07] <junocdx> why wont adept start anymore?
[01:08] <rysiek|pl> snikker: right-click on the clock on the panel
[01:08] <rysiek|pl> snikker: and follow your nose ;)
[01:09] <premier_> hello, Im planning a new computer and I want to build it around an Amd64 dual-core.  Does anybody have any suggestions as to which AMD to get?
[01:09] <ubuntu> by the moment there is one amd model +6000
[01:10] <ubuntu> is the newest and is very cheap for it's specs
[01:10] <snikker> rysiek|pl: yes i know, but in this way it change also bios time (-2 hours), and when i restart in windoze, i've got wrong time
[01:10] <mloo> =having a very nive 12 yrs old Balvenie whiskey
[01:10] <ubuntu> premier_: [18:09]  <ubuntu> by the moment there is one amd model +6000 [18:09]  <ubuntu> is the newest and is very cheap for it's specs
[01:10] <mloo> nive/nice
[01:10] <rysiek|pl> snikker: ahh... well, frankly, I don't know... it always worked for me
[01:11] <snikker> rysiek|pl: np thanks
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> premier_: you looking to put together a powerhouse or a standard capable machine?
[01:11] <tmbg> is there some sort of new kde release/massive-update? adept-updater is downloading like 50 updates and it seems like they're all for kde apps.
[01:11] <mloo> premier: I have a 64bits machine. My experience is that a lot of software is still only available, or better under 32bits
[01:12] <mloo> for instance: wengophone, skype...
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> mloo: amd doesn't make 32 bit processors anymore though :)
[01:12] <junocdx> since I did the update adept wont start anymore =(
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and you can run the 32 bit version of any os just fine on an amd 64
[01:12] <rysiek|pl> mloo, premier_: actually my friend (a total n00b!) managed to get flash, java, skype and wine to work on amd64 with 64bit system
[01:12] <rysiek|pl> kubuntu, off course ;)
[01:13] <premier_> Daisuke_Ido: not sure, but I guess I have a "just works" attitude... I'd like a nice fast one
[01:13] <ypsila> :-D
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> well i'd recommend a mid-range X2
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> 44-4600
[01:13] <premier_> cool.  What about a graphics card?  Nvidia, I assume?
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> definitely nvidia
[01:13] <mloo> I installed all te lib32 stuff, and put a lot of hours trying to solve bugs. Wengophone and skype just don't work with my hardware under linux
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a no-brainer
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> mloo: so install the 32 bit version of kubuntu and save yourself the headache
[01:14] <ramiro82> cual es el canal en espaol?
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | ramiro82
[01:14] <ubotu> ramiro82: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:14] <ramiro82> gracias puos
[01:15] <mloo> If I would choose again, I would go for 32bit
[01:15] <tmbg> I'm running amd64. I have flash & java working. wine works too.
[01:15] <tmbg> flash I had to set up a 32 bit firefox for though.
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> mloo: what's stopping you?
[01:15] <mloo> I got flash working with opera
[01:15] <tmbg> mloo, you could set up a 32 bit chroot to run -any- 32 bit app in.
[01:15] <tmbg> but yes it's easier to use 32 bit on 64.
[01:15] <mloo> Daisuke_Ido: dineros
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> mloo: huh?  linux is free.
[01:15] <tmbg> the only big reason to move to amd64 OS is for huge memory.
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> the 32-bit version works fine on a 64 bit amd processor
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> requires no money
[01:16] <peklo> hello
[01:16] <mloo> well, it's not the $ actually. my hardware works fine. why buy new?
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> >_<
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> are you paying attention?  seriously
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> you don't need new hardware
[01:16] <premier_> wait, Im a little uneducated here... So if Im working on a amd64, what apps require 32 bit and how do I get them to work?
[01:17] <premier_> flash and java, I assume?
[01:17] <Daisuke_Ido> just because you have a 64 bit processor does NOT mean you have to use a 64 bit OS
[01:17] <wolferine> really ? :)
[01:17] <junocdx> I'm running 32bit kubuntu on an AMD64
[01:17] <Daisuke_Ido> junocdx: same here
[01:17] <delphi> My Opera browser was broken today, after an upgrade to kubuntu 7.04 yesterday. Does anyone know if this is a known problem or if it's just me?
[01:17] <Daisuke_Ido> runs just dandy :)
[01:17] <junocdx> havn't had a problem besides I dont know what the hell I'm doing
[01:18] <chuck_tx> Does anyone have any idea why my Realtek 8135 Wireless NIC won't associate in Kubuntu?  It works in Ubuntu.
[01:18] <Daisuke_Ido> junocdx: that comes with time :)
[01:18] <premier_> whats the point of running a 32 bit OS on a 64 bit processor?  Why not just get a 32 bit processor?
[01:18] <mloo> I just told you: skype and wengophone do not work on my acer aspire5020 AMD64/ATIX700. 32bits version does not connect, but gives sound&video. the 64bit version crashes on connect. It's a known problem, check out the WengoWiki
[01:18] <junocdx> bigger pipes...
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> premier_: because AMD makes 64 bt processors
[01:19] <premier_> lol
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't think they actyally MAKE 32 bit processors anymore.
[01:19] <david> Intel Core 2 Duos are 64 bit too
[01:19] <delphi> with a 64bit processor you have the option to use 64bit OS, with a 32bit procesor you don't...
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> the option, yes
[01:19] <junocdx> doesnt a 64bit process 32bit information faster?  bigger pipes and such?
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> but unless you have +4gb ram, why bother, there's no real improvement
[01:20] <premier_> What if I want a 64 bit OS?
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> then prepare for headaches
[01:21] <tmbg> premier_, a 64 bit processor often times can run more 32 bit code at one time than the older 32 bit processors.
[01:21] <tmbg> some of them can sort of 'split' their pipelines into a pair of 32 bit execution units
[01:22] <mloo> who the needs 64bit integers anyway? what's the point of making every pointer and integer 64 bits?
[01:23] <chuck_tx> 64 bit CLI works pretty good
[01:23] <gomenster> isn't also about increased numbers of instructions?
[01:23] <chuck_tx> It becomes a pain when you want to do interactive stuff with it
[01:24] <junocdx> what is "OpenGLOverlay"?
[01:24] <bronze_1_9> a graphics call
[01:24] <mloo> and anyway: hardware is badly supported for 32 linux. even worse for 64bits
[01:25] <gomenster> bronze*
[01:25] <bronze_1_9> gomenster: it was only a small handful.. no one will missi t...
[01:25] <mloo> badly by the producers i mean. the comunity does amazing work
[01:26] <premier_> can anyone recomend a nvidia to go with my new computer?
[01:26] <gomenster> something that doesn't have turbocache
[01:26] <junocdx> I'll sell you an ati card
[01:26] <tmbg> hardware support? what on earth. the only issues I've run into running 64 bit was application software.
[01:26] <junocdx> =D
[01:26] <tmbg> shit like flash.
[01:26] <rysiek|pl> guys, anybody managed to get suspend-to-ram (the S3 power state) with a radeon card (esp. Mobility 7000) working? I need to find a way to tell the power manager to run a command just before going to sleep and just after waking up
[01:26] <bronze_1_9> 64 bit chips can have wider (and therefore faster) internal pathways, potentially increasing performance.
[01:26] <bronze_1_9>  As always the real bottle neck on most systems is usually the hard drive.
[01:27] <bronze_1_9> but when using large amounts of RAM on systems doing things like protien folding, the CPU speed becomes paramount and a 64 bit cpu comes into its own.
[01:27] <premier_> rysiek|pl: I have had so much trouble with sleep and hibernate on a X1400 mobility, I just gave up
[01:27] <mloo> al your hardware was supported off-the-shelf by ubuntu? 3D-accelleration, wireless? congrats
[01:27] <bronze_1_9> forr desktops, they are mostly wasted., but then , so are 32 bit cpu's
[01:28] <rysiek|pl> premier_: I have managed to overcome the xorg power management problem, now fighting to make sure radeontool gets called to handle the backlight
[01:28] <rysiek|pl> premier_: I think I might succeed ;)
[01:31] <junocdx> Is it still cheaper to build a computer than to purchase a prebuilt system?  It seems like there are a lot of good deals going around.
[01:31] <gomenster> juno: depends on what you want
[01:33] <mloo> junocdx: depends waht you want to do with it... if you want to do superduper climate simulations: build your own. otherwise, a deal is pretty good
[01:34] <junocdx> i dont know if I'm willing to let myself buy a prebuilt system though. hurts my pride =\
[01:36] <mloo>  <junocdx>: well, if you  just chat, play mp3 and browse the net: swallow your pride (in the words of a overestimated band from the 80's)
[01:36] <meh> there are so many different encrypted filesystem options around, anyone have recommendations as to which is generally the best?
[01:39] <premier_> Yeah, I having a lot of trouble related to screensavers, locking the screen, hibernating, rebooting, sleeping, turning off the screen, and so on.
[01:40] <premier_> For example, sometimes when I lock the screen, I will not get a screen saver, so
[01:40] <premier_> the desktop is still visible, but you can't interact with it without unlocking the screen
[01:41] <premier_> also, the monitor sometimes doesn't turn off when I close my laptop, even though usually it'll make a sound when I close the lid, so I know its recognizing the lid being closed
[01:42] <premier_> thats just the begining.
[01:42] <jonathan__> help
[01:42] <jonathan__> how do i change my monitor settings to make them smaller???
[01:43] <_spaz> jonathan__: go into system settings, then display
[01:43] <mloo> as long as hardware producers do not support linux, or at least release protocols to comunicate with their chips, this will not stop
[01:43] <jonathan__> tried that...it thinks i have a widescreen and wont change
[01:43] <mloo> that was directed to premier btw
[01:43] <premier_> since Im building my own computer, I can try to rectify all this, right?
[01:44] <premier_> btw, whats the most informative and most complete compatibility list?  the ubuntu list and the linuxcompatibility.org lists are a little disappointing
[01:44] <jonathan__> i have a plugnplay monitor..in the config box it thiks its a widescreen
[01:45] <mloo> well, you can try to google all the hardware, HCL's and stuff. But there still may be problems occuring as a result of combinations...
[01:46] <mloo> premier: just buy the hardware you want. I always did, and I *mostly* could solve any problems, just by googling through forums
[01:47] <jonathan__> it wont accept the standard 4:3 setting
[01:47] <jonathan__> there is an "X" through the monitor shown
[01:48] <mloo> as long as you don't buy anything too new (say less than 3 months old) and not too exclusive (say, a sun) you can get a very very very nice linux machine
[01:48] <jonathan__> the slider is all the way to the left
[01:48] <jonathan__> well, thanks anyway...
[01:49] <solemnwarning> Does kubuntu support WPA/WPA2?
[01:49] <makuseru> hi, i was intalling kububtu on a laptop frmo the alternate insatall disk, and during install it got hung at "choose and install software" so i told it to skip and now when i boot up i just get a terminal and startx does nothing, what can i do to fix this?
[01:50] <chemicalvamp> what vmware do i need for multiple OS? workstation?
[01:51] <mloo> makusuru: try typing "startx"
[01:51] <mloo> ah... sory
[01:51] <mloo> reinstall I guess
[01:52] <jack__> hi i have the problem when i am idle xorg goes up to 100%cpu load
[01:53] <_spaz> Oo
[01:53] <_spaz> what processor do you use jack__?
[01:56] <premier_> mloo, what do you think about two hard drived mirrored (raid 1 i think) 80GB each to hold my OSes, and then a 500 GB for personal data, with space for a fourth hard drive?
[01:57] <mloo> premier: well, that sounds pretty damn cool to me!
[01:57] <mloo> you can never have to much backup
[01:59] <premier_> mloo, my dell E1705, which ran me $2500, sucks.  I would say as a windows computer its worth less than $2000, and as a linux compy, less than $1200.  So, I want to get a computer that will work with linux and just rocks in general
[02:01] <kpbiss> ! =)
[02:01] <kpbiss> DJAnubis  =)
[02:01] <kpbiss> Hi everybody =)
[02:01] <jack__> _spaz: centrino core duo
[02:01] <kpbiss> omg... centrino?
[02:02] <_spaz> jack__: check the process table for the process that's taking up all that CPU time
[02:02] <jack__> _spaz: thats xorg, what do you mean by process table?
[02:03] <mloo> premier: $2500 is a lot of money man... what kindof apps are you running?
[02:03] <kpbiss> 66 =)
[02:03] <_spaz> i mean the list of processes running in the system jack__
[02:03] <mloo> it's not games, since you obviously use linux
[02:03] <meh> !dm-crypt
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dm-crypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <meh> !cryptfs
[02:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cryptfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:04] <jack__> _spaz do you mean top?where do i see that?
[02:04] <_spaz> jack__: h/o, brb
[02:04] <mloo> and in linux, you can expect small things like laptop hybernating not working
[02:04] <premier_> mloo: it was kinda a waste.  You could get a toshiba for a fraction of the cost, and it will be much better.
[02:05] <premier_> mloo: I'm a college student, so i could take up games.  I still have windows but I never use it (dual boot).  I'll probably put windows on my new computer, at least if I can get XP for freeness.
[02:06] <rysiek|pl> meh: what are you looking for?
[02:07] <mloo> probalby true. I mean, you can do really heavy calculations with a laptop nowadays whic would  be a supercomputer a few years ago. My point is that hardware increases in speed but the functionalty (what do you actually do with your pc?) stays the same
[02:07] <rysiek|pl> meh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowtoEdgy?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=EncryptedFilesystem&titlesearch=Tytu%82y
[02:07] <meh> rysiek|pl: a nice easy to implement secure crypto fs
[02:07] <meh> rysiek|pl: thanks :)
[02:08] <meh> hm, that page brings up an error
[02:08] <rysiek|pl> meh: search on help.ubuntu.com/community/ for EncryptedFilesystem :)
[02:08] <meh> kk
[02:09] <mloo> premier: well, I never play any computer games, so I cannot advise you on that. How about a PSIII? :D
[02:17] <makuseru> what just happened to #ubuntu?
[02:18] <billytwowilly> hey, is there any way to get ktorrent to automagically adjust upload speed like azureus does?
[02:18] <mloo> ok girls and boys. Sgt. mloo signing off. bu-byyyeee
[02:18] <_spaz> there are no girls on the internet mloo :p
[02:18] <_spaz> :/
[02:19] <makuseru> hi, i was intalling kububtu on a laptop frmo the alternate insatall disk, and during install it got hung at "choose and install software" so i told it to skip and now when i boot up i just get a terminal and startx does nothing, what can i do to fix this?
[02:21] <jhutchins> makuseru: Choose and install software.
[02:22] <makuseru> what software do i need for a gui? since when i startx nothing happens
[02:22] <chemicalvamp> is vmware free?
[02:23] <jhutchins> makuseru: It's hard to say what you actually got installed, but I'd probably go with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:23] <makuseru> i tried that and iget these errors
[02:23] <jhutchins> makuseru: You could just get xorg-x11, which would give you a basic gui.
[02:23] <makuseru> and it reads my sources.list from the cd
[02:23] <makuseru> not from the real cources.lsit
[02:23] <jhutchins> !pastebin | makuseru
[02:23] <ubotu> makuseru: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:23] <tmbg> chemicalvamp, part of it is. the vmware player I think was the free part.
[02:24] <makuseru> why are you showing me pastebin?
[02:24] <jhutchins> makuseru: If you need to paste the errors.  You probably want to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <chemicalvamp> tmbg i want a free windows virtualizer
[02:24] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: xen
[02:24] <rysiek|pl> chemicalvamp: QEmu
[02:25] <makuseru> im starting the lappy up now, its just a one sentence error so no need for pastebin
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> whats better?
[02:25] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: virtualbox
[02:25] <rysiek|pl> chemicalvamp: you'll have to check for yourself
[02:25] <rysiek|pl> chemicalvamp: are you going to run it UNDER windows, or windows UNDER it?
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> i run kubuntu
[02:26] <rysiek|pl> chemicalvamp: what exactly do you need virtualization? because if you just need to run some windows apps, you coulkd use wine
[02:26] <makuseru> jhutchins: i get a bunch of "no such file or directory"
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> pretty much just checing it out
[02:27] <_spaz> brb
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> i seen a screenshot of somebody that had like a cube on screen, one side was linux, and another was windows
[02:28] <jhutchins> makuseru: Argh.  Incomplete install.
[02:28] <makuseru> how can i fix it?
[02:28] <jhutchins> makuseru: Can you get apt to run?
[02:28] <makuseru> yes
[02:28] <jhutchins> sudo apt-get -f install might help.
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> rysiek|pl o you know what emulator that would be?
[02:29] <rysiek|pl> chemicalvamp: QEmu, xen and such are great if - for some reason - you need the full system; wine is the way if you just need to run a windows app under linux
[02:29] <makuseru> jhutchins: gotta unplug this comp form the net to try, back ina dew
[02:29] <rysiek|pl> chemicalvamp: it might have been any - QEmu, xen, virtualbox, vmware, whatever
[02:29] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: That's probably a virtual machine running with beryl.
[02:30] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: You can probably melt lead with the heat it gives off.
[02:30] <tmbg> you can install xp under bochs.
[02:30] <tmbg> could have been tons of shit. who knows
[02:30] <Flare183> how do you mount a mp3 device
[02:30] <jhutchins> tmbg: is bochs another virtualizer?
[02:31] <rysiek|pl> Flare183: you mean like an mp3 player? just plug it in
[02:31] <chemicalvamp> jhutchins nah it was kubuntu and windows vista runing in the svreenshot i saw
[02:31] <tmbg> bochs is an emulator. slow fullblown virtual machine.
[02:31] <Flare183> yeah but when i do it does nothing
[02:31] <bomber> hey guys
[02:31] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: That's what I'm saying.
[02:31] <Flare183> amaroK does eve do anything
[02:31] <rysiek|pl> Flare183: right-click on the desktop and Refresh
[02:31] <Zehava> Is there a single command I can put into a terminal to remove all/most of gnome and it's packages?
[02:31] <tmbg> Flare183, type 'mount' in a CLI like konsole and see if there are any new drives
[02:31] <tmbg> yeah or that
[02:31] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: So we qemu, xen, virtualbox, and bochs so far.
[02:32] <maxesghost> Hello. In Konsole, how to I use the "cd" command to change into a directory with spaces in the directory name?
[02:32] <bomber> i updated kde yesterday and now my system boots to the kdm instead of to console
[02:32] <rysiek|pl> jhutchins: don't forget KVM and dosbox! ;)
[02:32] <tmbg> dunno if you can do vista in bochs. it would be PAINFUL if you could do it though
[02:32] <jhutchins> Zehava: apt-get --purge autoremove ubuntu-desktop might do it.
[02:33] <Flare183> i don't know which one is the MP3 Player?
[02:33] <rysiek|pl> tmbg: you should rather use something that can run native CPU instructions - like QEmu with kqemu module or Xen
[02:33] <tmbg> maxesghost, try "like\ this" ?
[02:33] <jhutchins> tmbg: Yeah, like I said that machine must have a kilowatt powersupply.
[02:33] <Zehava> jhutchins alrighty, I'll give that a shot, if not I'll use synaptic and pick and choose individually, but that'll be a pain.
[02:33] <tmbg> rysiek|pl, yeah obviously.
[02:33] <tmbg> just saying it's hard to know what virtualizer/emulator/whatever he saw.
[02:34] <jhutchins> Zehava: Try autoremove with something high-level like gnome or evolution too.
[02:34] <Zehava> so what? apt-get --purge autoremove gnome-desktop
[02:34] <Flare183> i don't know which one is the MP3 Player.
[02:34] <maxesghost> Do I need to put quotes around it like in Windows dos box?
[02:34] <jhutchins> tmbg: Yeah, for all we know it was just a  screenshot in kuickshow, not actual vista.
[02:35] <jhutchins> Flare183: Don't you suppose it's the last thing that got mounted?
[02:35] <Flare183> yes
[02:35] <Flare183> so..
[02:35] <tmbg> maxesghost, shouldn't have to.
[02:35] <jhutchins> maxesghost: Either quote it or escape the spaces by putting a "\" before each one.
[02:36] <maxesghost> it tells me "no such file or directory"
[02:36] <jhutchins> maxesghost: Use tab for autocomplete.
[02:36] <maxesghost> ok
[02:36] <jhutchins> That will also show you the correct format.
[02:37] <tmbg> Flare183, dmesg will show you at the end stuff that recently mounted I believe. maybe I'm confusing os's though
[02:37] <maxesghost> Ah. Thanks! I used the TAB key, and while it used a '\' character for the spaces, it required a '/' character trailing the directory name.
[02:37] <jhutchins> tmbg: Should work, or /var/log/messages
[02:37] <rysiek|pl> tmbg: not mounted, but connected and discovered, yeah
[02:37] <maxesghost> Thanks so much. I never would have figured that out on my own.
[02:38] <Zehava> jhutchins it's telling me autoremove is an invalid oporation
[02:38] <jhutchins> maxesghost:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[02:38] <jhutchins> Zehava: apt-get autoremove packagename - straight from the apt-get howto.
[02:38] <rysiek|pl> gtg, cu all
[02:38] <tmbg> well, the dmesg could get him in the ballpark. compare that with mount, and see if the newly discovered mp3 player drive is mounted anywhere
[02:39] <Zehava> jhutchins thanks
[02:39] <jhutchins> Zehava: Could be they've removed it.
[02:39] <phyerboss> I know I been in here several times for this same issue but there has GOT to be someone with a method that works to get flash & java working in konquror & firefox=\
[02:39] <jhutchins> !flash | phyerboss
[02:39] <ubotu> phyerboss: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:39] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[02:40] <Zehava> jhutchins musthave removed or something.  apt-get autoremove gnome-destkop.   and I got invalid opperation autoremove
[02:40] <maxesghost> Has anyone been succesful in using a Creative Labs Video Blaster Webcam Go under Kubuntu? The newst Linux kernel has a driver for the OVcam chip and places an entry /dev/video0 , but now what?
[02:40] <jhutchins> !java | phyerboss
[02:40] <ubotu> phyerboss: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[02:40] <maxesghost> DigiKam doesn't have any entry for it. And using "mounted camera" doesn't work even though I point it to that file.
[02:41] <jhutchins> Zehava: For a macro package like that, maybe just remove.  Also, aptitude(?) is supposed to be better at macro packages, I think.
[02:41] <phyerboss> alright...let me have a go at these
[02:41] <jhutchins> fdoving: Ping?
[02:41] <Zehava> I'm a complete newb to linux, so I"m not exactly sure what aptitude is...I'll do some more looking around.  I do appriciate the help.
[02:43] <jhutchins> !aptitude | Zehava
[02:43] <ubotu> Zehava: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[02:44] <jhutchins> Zehava: Mind you, I can do amazing things with RPM, but I'm just learning about apt.
[02:45] <Zehava> jhutchins thanks, I don't even know what rpm is! lol
[02:46] <jhutchins> Zehava: rpm is RedHat Package Manager, used by the other major branch of linux.
[02:47] <Zehava> jhutchins I tried to install redhat on my computers but for some reason it woulnd't work.  either way, is aptitude a command I use in terminal oris it an X thing I can open?
[02:48] <jhutchins> Zehava: as above, "terminal-based"
[02:49] <jhutchins> Zehava: The overhead of the GUI shells for most package managers seems to cause all of them problems.
[02:49] <cpk1> yeah adept is the devil
[02:49] <meh> !nvidia-glx-legacy
[02:50] <Zehava> jhutchins well, I'm very new to linux for the most part.  I can do very simple things, but coming from a winblo's world...X is the way I try and do most things, but I'm learning more and more terminal stuff as I go.
[02:50] <meh> hm
[02:50] <Zehava> jhutchins  I found where the commands are on the help page now, I'm playin with it.  thanks again forthe advice.
[02:50] <cpk1> Zehava: aptitude is very easy and intuitive to use
[02:51] <meh> nvidia-glx-legacy doesnt seem to be in the repo?
[02:51] <Zehava> cpkl Cool, I"m reading on it and trying to figure it out.  why do links in here open up firefox instead of konqerer?
[02:51] <meh> i can see nvidia-glx, but not the legacy package. has it been taken out?
[02:52] <cpk1> "here" I use konversation and it opens up konq for me
[02:52] <jhutchins> Zehava: Usually it's something configurable in your irc client.
[02:52] <Zehava> cpkl I'll have to try that, I'm on xchat
[02:52] <jhutchins> Zehava: If you have xchat, it defaults to Firefox.  Konversation or Kopete will default to konq.
[02:53] <cpk1> also for aptitude all you really need to know is aptitude install aptitude remove aptitude update aptitude upgrade and aptitude dist-upgrade
[02:54] <Zehava> jhutchins thanks.  I"m digging through the settings and preferences now to see if I can change it.
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  most of what you need to know for apt-get
[02:54] <cpk1> oh and aptitude search
[02:54] <Zehava> cpk1 thanks, I'll give that apptitude remove a try here in just a moment
[02:54] <cpk1> thats to remove a package btw
[02:55] <cpk1> purge will completely nuke the package
[02:55] <Zehava> cpk1 what's the diff between remove and purge though?
[02:55] <Zehava> cpk1 does remove only remove it's use and leave the files
[02:55] <cpk1> remove might not get rid of all the configuration files purge will destroy any trace of the package
[02:56] <Zehava> cpk1 alright.  how would purge be used? just aptitude purge "package"?
[02:56] <cpk1> yup
[02:56] <Zehava> cpk1 thanks
[02:57] <Zehava> how do I find out how much free disk space I have on my HD?
[02:57] <cpk1> df -h
[02:57] <phyerboss> seriously, this issue regarding flash and java is not working out right! If ANYONE has an idea what to do please can you help me! NO MORE WEB LINKS!
[02:57] <phyerboss> those guides have been followed through and through and are not doing anything
[02:57] <Zehava> cpk1 thanks
[02:58] <cpk1> whats the problem phyerboss?
[02:58] <zerothis> help! i tried to uninstall xeyes and alot of packages got uninstalled. including adept. synaptics doesn't show any packages. did i permenently destroy things or is this an easy fix?
[02:59] <cpk1> zerothis: if you still have apt you can just reinstall stuff using aptitude or apt-get
[03:00] <phyerboss> well, i been having an issue getting java and flash to properly install and run for konquror and firefox
[03:01] <zerothis> trying apt-get
[03:01] <phyerboss> java is running on firefox actually, just not konquror but neither will run flash
[03:02] <phyerboss> this is getting a bit frustrating as this is my 4th reinstall and out of all the other distros i tried if its not 1 thing its another...and in kubuntu's case its getting friggin flash and java to work!
[03:02] <phyerboss> where as other distros, wham bam it was up !
[03:02] <meh> !repositorys
[03:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorys - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:02] <phyerboss> sorry if im coming of harsh...its just really killing me now
[03:02] <tmbg> are you using amd64 or just regular x86?
[03:02] <meh> !multiverse
[03:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:03] <tmbg> methinks you meant...
[03:03] <tmbg> !repositories
[03:03] <phyerboss> and i am sick of being giving link after link to steps that either render my machine buggy or just dont work
[03:03] <tmbg> maybe not. maybe it's singular. it's in there somewhere.
[03:03] <tmbg> !repository
[03:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:04] <tmbg> phyerboss, are you using x86 or amd64?
[03:04] <phyerboss> x86
[03:04] <tmbg> if you're using regular 32 bit linux, there are packages that will do the footwork for you
[03:04] <phyerboss> edgy
[03:04] <tmbg> they're in multiverse
[03:05] <phyerboss> what are they?
[03:05] <tmbg> I recommend setting up synaptic or whatever and just point and clicking your way into having working flash. should work for java too but you might have to click on some license banners or whatever
[03:05] <phyerboss> yeah, had to use konsole for java as the agreement pops up in adept and locks it up
[03:06] <tmbg> it works in synaptic.
[03:06] <phyerboss> question: if i get synaptic, will i have to remove adept?
[03:06] <Jisao> no
[03:06] <zerothis> phyerboss: i use both
[03:07] <phyerboss> and neither clashes withthe other?
[03:07] <tmbg> phyerboss, you just can't run them both simultaneously.
[03:07] <tmbg> they both require a lock on the database. run one, or the other, at any point in time. they can both be installed though no problem.
[03:08] <phyerboss> ok, i'll nab that...its by far the only thing i hav'nt tried thus far
[03:09] <zerothis> all package managers lock the database don't they? apt, dpkg, synaptics, adept
[03:09] <tmbg> sometimes there's a bit of fiddliness with the license banners you have to click navigate in synaptic. I think you had to tab around to get to the yes/no prompts or something like that. in general it's all worked rather well for me though.
[03:09] <tmbg> zerothis, yes, all.
[03:10] <zerothis> they will still browse pakages though. I often use the search tools in one and install with another
[03:10] <tmbg> if you run one as a user and the other as root that will work.
[03:11] <tmbg> the tools always try to obtain lock when run as root in my experience.
[03:12] <zerothis> exactly, a nice friendly gui for finding and reading all about the package, then sudo apt-get to see all the gory details of the actuall install
[03:14] <Jisao> Is there a way to upgrade to feisty?
[03:16] <zerothis> adept-updater has been telling me about feisty ever time I run it. "sudo adept_updater"
[03:17] <zerothis> I'm waiting for the official word that it is ready instead of 'development version'
[03:21] <meh> brb
[03:21] <don> How about that, runnin Konversation automatically puts you in this room!  Nice
[03:22] <phyerboss> hey tmbg, that did'nt work either
[03:22] <zerothis> thanks for the info. now my damage is repaired, is there a way to remove just xeyes? it seems to be part of xbase-clients.
[03:23] <tmbg> what do you mean by didn't work?
[03:23] <tmbg> you're not being very specific.
[03:23] <tmbg> what exactly did you do, and what were the results?
[03:23] <livingdaylight> hi
[03:23] <livingdaylight> Can i ask why you guys prefer kubuntu over ubuntu?
[03:23] <livingdaylight> i have not made my mind up which is better? nicer?
[03:24] <phyerboss> as you suggested, i installed synaptic and tried to install flash and java with it
[03:24] <makuseru> jhutchins: none of it worked
[03:24] <phyerboss> when i said no good: i mean its the same results...neither browser will run any flash and konquror still wont run java
[03:25] <phyerboss> its as if nothing was even installed
[03:25] <tmbg> phyerboss, load up firefox and throw in about:plugins in the address bar
[03:26] <tmbg> see what it says about your installed plugins
[03:27] <zerothis> I got jave working in firefox throught the java.com website. had to spoof my user agent and poke arround a bit but i eventually got it
[03:27] <phyerboss> lots of java files. All showing enabled. I have a bunch of shockwave files saying enabled as well
[03:29] <tmbg> have you tried the flash & java test sites?
[03:30] <tmbg> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ and http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml ?
[03:30] <phyerboss> yeah, for flash i go to youtube, for java i go to java.com
[03:30] <makuseru> hi, im trying to install kubuntu on my laptop form the "alterate install disk" and i while it was installing it skipped the "choose and install software" part so when it finished i have basically nothing installed, not even a giu, how can i fix this?
[03:30] <tmbg> try the adobe site.
[03:30] <tmbg> sometimes certain flash stuff works but videos won't and you may be able to use it to figure out why
[03:31] <livingdaylight> is ubuntu easier than kubuntu?
[03:32] <livingdaylight> i am trying to make a choice between ubuntu or kubuntu
[03:32] <livingdaylight> any suggestions?
[03:32] <livingdaylight> is one better or nicer?
[03:32] <phyerboss> both browsers act as if they are TRYING to install the missing plugins but keep failing
[03:32] <phyerboss> as for java, it works for Firefox just fine
[03:32] <phyerboss> just not konquror
[03:33] <makuseru> livingdaylight: same dist, just looks a little diffrent, if you like gnome use ubuntu if you like kde use kubuntu
[03:33] <epic_> I need help installing my video card on a fresh installation. GeCube 9600XT
[03:33] <livingdaylight> makuseru: is that all?
[03:33] <epic_> can anyone help me?
[03:33] <makuseru> yes
[03:33] <makuseru> thats the only diffreence
[03:34] <phyerboss> tmbg: nothing is coming up
[03:34] <livingdaylight> i don't know what kde 3.6 looks like
[03:34] <livingdaylight> makuseru: you prefer kde?
[03:34] <makuseru> yup
[03:34] <epic_> can someone please help me set up my Video card. Ati Radeon 9600XT
[03:35] <livingdaylight> makuseru: why :s ?
[03:35] <tmbg> MIME Type 	Description 	Suffixes 	Enabled
[03:35] <tmbg> application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[03:35] <tmbg> phyerboss, you get something like ^ that when you go to about:plugins?
[03:35] <makuseru> livingdaylight: to me i think it looks nicer, and you can configure it mroe than gnome (how you want it to look)
[03:36] <livingdaylight> o i c
[03:36] <epic_> can someone please help me set up my Video card. Ati Radeon 9600XT
[03:36] <makuseru> epic_: get flgrx
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> ive never tried gnome, i could get it from adept couldnt i?
[03:36] <chemicalvamp> !ati
[03:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:36] <nosrednaekim> ummm  thats "fglrx"
[03:36] <epic_> thanks
[03:37] <makuseru> nosrednaekim: my mistake
[03:37] <chemicalvamp> np, its easy to follow
[03:37] <makuseru> my ATI is too old to use it
[03:37] <phyerboss> yeah, i have that
[03:37] <phyerboss> for firefox
[03:38] <phyerboss> konquror it just says its installed(along with a whole lot of other ones*)
[03:38] <phyerboss> but either way, i have that
[03:39] <aaroncampbell> I'm trying to build a package for my printer (konica Minolta Magicolor 2430DL), and this is the output: http://paste-bin.com/11365 which is riddled with errors...can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[03:39] <epic_> ok.. So what is the repos for fglrx?
[03:39] <epic_> sorry, this is my first install of kubuntu..
[03:40] <phyerboss> dont feel bad epic_, you're not alone =\
[03:41] <phyerboss> tmbg?
[03:42] <tmbg> I'm sort of stumped. it sounds like it should all work if it sees those plugins.
[03:44] <phyerboss> it worked before the reinstallation...well, flash in firefox...just dont know what else to do
[03:44] <tmbg> reinstallation?
[03:45] <phyerboss> yeah, i could'nt remove a bunch of broken packages...compiz being 1 of them
[03:45] <phyerboss> so i decided to do a clean install since i never did get too far with setting everything up
[03:45] <phyerboss> to my liking
[03:46] <tmbg> completely wiped & restarted?
[03:46] <phyerboss> well, as it was argued...technically compiz was not broke, but either way i could'nt get rid of it
[03:46] <phyerboss> yes
[03:46] <phyerboss> complete wipe
[03:46] <makuseru> hi, im trying to install kubuntu on my laptop form the "alterate install disk" and i while it was installing it skipped the "choose and install software" part so when it finished i have basically nothing installed, not even a gui, how can i fix this?
[03:46] <tmbg> odd. I see no reason why the package you got from synaptic shouldn't work.
[03:47] <tmbg> what was the package name you installed?
[03:47] <phyerboss> there was a good bit of java and flash packages i nabbed in hopes thst something should do it
[03:48] <samandbeth> Anyone here use smm++ Mud client?
[03:48] <makuseru> where is the xorg log locared?
[03:49] <makuseru> located*
[03:49] <tmbg> you may have some sort of odd conflict then.
[03:50] <wsjunior> what do i need to make audio preview to work inside konqueror? i enabled it but i cant hear anything
[03:50] <samandbeth> It says It uses Makefiles for Installation, and to execute Make and Make Install and thats it. But I get an unknown command error
[03:51] <artabrahao>  where is the location of C headers files?
[03:51] <phyerboss> what files/libs you have installed wheras its working for you?
[03:51] <phyerboss> whereas*
[03:51] <sonoftheclayr> samandbeth: have you installed the build-essential package?
[03:52] <premier_> does anyone know about TV Tuners and linux, esp, which cards tend to be the most compatable and highest quality?
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're executing Make, it won't work
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> try make
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> case sensitivity
[03:52] <samandbeth> tried both caps and non, tried to sudo the command
[03:53] <samandbeth> build package....
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> then sonoftheclayr probably has it
[03:53] <samandbeth> probably not
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> build-essential :)
[03:53] <samandbeth> yeah but its late and i didnt want to type all that ;)
[03:53] <samandbeth> adept?
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> !build
[03:54] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:54] <Jisao> Anybody knows what a /dev/wacom is?
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> Jisao: it's a tablet
[03:55] <LeeJunFan> Jisao: err it's the device node for the tablet.
[03:55] <Jisao> If I don't have any on my computer, why is it appearing in the logs?
[03:55] <Minataku> Supposedly some touchpad devices are Wacom-based
[03:56] <mrigns> its in the xorg.conf
[03:56] <Minataku> So they're enabled in the default xorg.conf
[03:56] <Minataku> Feel free to go in and disable them if you're confident enough
[03:56] <LeeJunFan> Jisao: yeah, they are just warnings - not errors, no harm.
[03:57] <Minataku> Alternately compile your own kernel with wacom support, which should give you a /dev/wacom and will also eliminate the messages
[03:57] <Minataku> Alternately again, ignore them
[03:57] <Minataku> They're just cruft in the log
[03:59] <Jisao> Well, I am looking for the reason my computer crashes.  The screens looks like a TV with large  diagonal lines in it, and the keyboard and mouse don't respond anymore.
[03:59] <Jisao> As I like Kubuntu, I would like to find out why this happens.
[03:59] <makuseru> is there anyway to install kubuntu over a network instead of from a CD?
[04:00] <chemicalvamp> lol.. i like this.. "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check...
[04:00] <epic_> I have been following the install instructions for my ATI drivers, but I can't get anything to work. HELP PLS!
[04:01] <surgy> whats the name of the module that gives k3b mp3 support? i thought it was k3b-mp3 but the command "sudo apt-cache search k3b-mp3" yeilds no results
[04:01] <surgy> epic_: be more spicific and i can see what i can do
[04:01] <chemicalvamp> epic_ are you not getting the right output when you do the glfxinfo command
[04:01] <surgy> soecific*
[04:01] <surgy> specific*
[04:02] <epic_> I can't get glfx to install.
[04:02] <chemicalvamp> well that narrows it down 0.<
[04:02] <surgy> epic_: do you have the restricted module/s installed?
[04:02] <epic_> can't find the package
[04:02] <epic_> I don't think so...
[04:02] <surgy> and is it the right restricted module for you specific kernal type?
[04:02] <surgy> thats your problem
[04:03] <sonoftheclayr> surgy: we had this the other day, i think it might've been libk3bmp3
[04:03] <zerothis> jisao, i have the same thing happen about one a week. ussuall when I run a full screen opengl game. sometime a windows GL game will freeze up the system also. in these cases only the game window shows the odd pattern. I'm using propriatary nvidia drivers on a customised D900K
[04:03] <surgy> go back to the tut and read up on the restricted modules part
[04:03] <epic_> honestly, I have no idea. I just installed kubuntu and really have no idea what to do...
[04:03] <surgy> sonoftheclayr: thnx
[04:03] <surgy> !ati | epic_
[04:03] <ubotu> epic_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:03] <surgy> epic_: read that, and pay attention to detail.
[04:04] <sonoftheclayr> surgy: sorry, it was libk3b2-mp3
[04:04] <epic_> ok, thank you
[04:04] <surgy> epic_: np
[04:04] <surgy> sonoftheclayr: that module isnt in the repos eather
[04:05] <sonoftheclayr> surgy: do you have the universe repo enabled?
[04:05] <Jisao> I am running the proprietary nvidia drivers on a Geforce 6150 chip (all in one mobo).  I don't get those crashed in Debian testing.  I wonder why.
[04:05] <surgy> sonoftheclayr: i have every repo enabled :)
[04:05] <wsjunior> surgy: libk3b2-mp3
[04:05] <surgy> wsjunior: thnx
[04:07] <jhutchins> !mp3 | surgy
[04:07] <ubotu> surgy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <ace> hi all
[04:08] <jhutchins> There's also libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs.
[04:08] <ace> i moved something from a backup to my work area, but it says access denied
[04:08] <zerothis> ah, here it is: I have a nVIDIA GeForce Go 7950 GTX 512MB
[04:08] <ace> how do i get editing permissions for myself
[04:08] <ace> i tried sudo chmod 777 * but it doesn't go into folders
[04:08] <jhutchins> !permissions | ace
[04:08] <ubotu> ace: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[04:09] <chemicalvamp> i need help installing qemu
[04:09] <chemicalvamp> i never installed sorce
[04:09] <jhutchins> ace: Chmod has an -R option, but read the manpage and use with great care.
[04:09] <surgy> !source | chemicalvamp
[04:09] <ubotu> chemicalvamp: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:09] <ace> jhutchins: thanks
[04:09] <chemicalvamp> im not using apt though
[04:11] <jhutchins> !build | chemicalvamp
[04:11] <ubotu> chemicalvamp: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:11] <surgy> chemicalvamp: are you familiar with the terminal? and the basic commands? if so then navigate to the source directory and then ./configure and then make and then chmod +x the executable
[04:11] <jhutchins> surgy: Don't forget the first step in building software from source tarballs.
[04:11] <jhutchins> surgy: READ THE README and INSTALL FILES!
[04:12] <surgy> jhutchins: lol I ALWAYS forget that one...... but thnx for the reminder
[04:12] <jhutchins> surgy: DON'T just haul off and start configuring and making until you read them.
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> bah says i need to extract it to / but i dont have permission, whats the dpkg command
[04:13] <jhutchins> !info qemu | chemicalvamp
[04:13] <ubotu> chemicalvamp: qemu: fast processor emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 3630 kB, installed size 9860 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 powerpc alpha sparc arm s390)
[04:13] <chemicalvamp> so i ont even need to do it this way?
[04:13] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: Correct.
[04:14] <chemicalvamp> *grins*
[04:14] <jhutchins> Back later, maybe.
[04:14] <wsjunior> what do i need to make audio preview to work inside konqueror?
[04:14] <aaroncampbell> !packages
[04:14] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[04:15] <aaroncampbell> I'm trying to build a package for my printer (konica Minolta Magicolor 2430DL), and this is the output: http://paste-bin.com/11365 which is riddled with errors...can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[04:15] <chemicalvamp> installing things in awkward ways! true that
[04:15] <wsjunior> could anybody test this feature to check if it isnt really working?
[04:18] <artabrahao> where is the location of C headers files?
[04:19] <wsjunior> artabrahao: /usr/include ?
[04:19] <Minataku> I believe you want /usr/include
[04:19] <Minataku> Which also has all sorts of other header files
[04:20] <kinus> wsjunior: do you have build-essential installed?
[04:21] <wsjunior> kinus: yes, why?
[04:21] <kinus> did you get your audi preview to work?
[04:21] <wsjunior> no
[04:21] <wsjunior> could u test it please?
[04:22] <kinus> where's the source?
[04:23] <wsjunior> just open konquereror->view->preview and check sound files
[04:23] <makuseru> is there any way to install kubuntu over a nework? instead of from a CD?
[04:23] <wsjunior> and then place yout mouse over a mp3 file and tell me if u can hear anything..
[04:24] <kinus> wsjunior: not working
[04:24] <kinus> makuseru: nfs?
[04:25] <makuseru> kinus: whats nfs?
[04:25] <epic_> after I try to change settings in ati control panel it tells me I need to restart Xserver, how do I do that?
[04:25] <wsjunior> kinus: thanks. i'll file a bug. couldnt get help with this anywhere..
[04:25] <kinus> network file server makuseru
[04:25] <makuseru> you can do it that way?
[04:25] <kinus> wsjunior: surely it needs to be configured somehow
[04:25] <don> Anyone here use wine, or is there a channel I can go toto help with wine?
[04:25] <epic_> after I try to change settings in ati control panel it tells me I need to restart Xserver, how do I do that?
[04:25] <surgy> don: i use wine but #winehq is your spot
[04:26] <don> surgy thanks
[04:26] <wsjunior> epic_: close your kde session and type control+alt+backspace at the login screen
[04:26] <epic_> thanks
[04:26] <surgy> epic_: kde menu >> shutdown >> end session
[04:26] <surgy> wsjunior: what?????
[04:26] <ubuntu> hello
[04:27] <wsjunior> surgy: it will restart the X
[04:27] <makuseru> kinus: i can do it that way?
[04:27] <chemicalvamp> hmm the restore cd (media center edition) works properly, but says "please insert restore dvd in drive now"
[04:27] <surgy> wsjunior: umm no, you press the keys cntrl + alt + backspace, not type them
[04:27] <hunshad> hey all
[04:27] <kinus> makuseru: yes
[04:28] <makuseru> do you have a link? so i can read how to do it?
[04:28] <hunshad> how i do an other account on kubuntu
[04:28] <wsjunior> surgy: ah, sorry  :-p
[04:28] <kinus> hunshad: adduser username
[04:28] <hunshad> ok
[04:28] <surgy> wsjunior: np :)
[04:29] <hunshad> sudo adduser hunshad  for example ?
[04:29] <samandbeth> anyone know where itcl3 would be installed by default? (installed already with Adept, need the file path now.) I tried Find File/Folders, but I couldn't find it
[04:29] <kinus> hunshad: or start -> system settings -> user management
[04:29] <kinus> hunshad: yes
[04:29] <hunshad> ok
[04:30] <hunshad> but i do an account with your second technic but a cant acces it
[04:30] <kinus> you need to go into administrator mode
[04:30] <kinus> the button is at the bottom right
[04:31] <manchicken> Anybody gotten kpilot to work with a Treo 700?
[04:31] <hunshad> ok i do an account with konsole
[04:31] <hunshad> but that said ''that already exist
[04:31] <kinus> its probably better to do it via the gui because then you're added to the basic groups automatically
[04:31] <kinus> then remove the user first
[04:31] <makuseru> kinus: do you have a link? so i can read how to do it?
[04:32] <hunshad> Mmm because i did it 4 hour ago
[04:32] <kinus> man userdel
[04:32] <hunshad> with system settings
[04:32] <hunshad> but
[04:32] <wsjunior> LOL https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/27954
[04:32] <hunshad> i will come back
[04:33] <kinus> makuseru: sorry no
[04:33] <kinus> wsjunior: just curious, what file format you trying to preview
[04:33] <kinus> ?
[04:33] <wsjunior> mp3
[04:33] <kinus> have you tried ogg?
[04:33] <wsjunior> Riddell said "discussed on IRC, it fixed itself."
[04:34] <wsjunior> kinus: Yes, doesnt work as well..
[04:34] <kinus> ah ok...i dunno then
[04:34] <kinus> i guess it "fixed itself" somehow then
[04:35] <wsjunior> that's odd
[04:35] <surgy> yea linux > windoze && OBD > bill gates
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> ok, http://www.xensource.com/download/xenexpthanks.html?whence= do i need both images?
[04:41] <surgy> so can someone give me a brief primer on serious ui customization from within kde? to the point of making kde look and feal like a completely different window manager?
[04:41] <epic_> having major problems with my ATI video card and setting the resolution.
[04:41] <surgy> !resolution | epic_
[04:41] <ubotu> epic_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:59] <don> how do I add a repository to synaptic?
[05:02] <tmbg> don, settings -> repositories
[05:02] <tmbg> click on enabled, click on OK. done
[05:03] <don> I'm trying to upgrade wine, it's telling me that some of the dependancies are not met and won't upgrade it. How do I resolve this?
[05:04] <tmbg> does it say which ones?
[05:04] <don> tmbg yes there is a list of them
[05:06] <tmbg> if you provide that list someone may be able to tell you where to get all of them
[05:06] <don> Alright.  I"m digging through synaptic for them now, guess I'll have to update all of them first
[05:07] <don> is there an aptitude command to upgrade all that needs it? or will I have to do it seperatly for each?
[05:12] <dak> whats the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu ? just that kubuntu uses kde ?
[05:13] <don> I assume so.  but I don't know for sure myself.
[05:13] <tmbg> dak, that pretty much sums it up
[05:13] <niblets> I have a problem with Kopete, using the MSN plugin, I cant see the webcam window anymore, when I accept an invitation, it doesnt open. Any deas?
[05:14] <tmbg> don, adept_updater or something like that may interest you.
[05:15] <don> tmbg it deffinatly will, though I just had adept open and it ran through a list of stuff and nothing happened......sheesh
[05:16] <tmbg> there's a way to set it up to poll for updates and toss a little icon in your tray in the panel when updates for something are available.
[05:16] <tmbg> but it passes my mind how to do this
[05:16] <don> it does that already, the icon is there, wine is the only thing that's there to upgrade right now and it won't due to the dependencies needed
[05:18] <niblets> Where can I get help for Kopete/
[05:19] <don> How do I find out what version of a package I have?
[05:21] <Admiral_Chicago> hello all
[05:27] <wsjunior> niblets: #kopete
[05:28] <wsjunior> don: depends on your distribution
[05:30] <chemicalvamp> man what a dissapointment, virtualization for amd64 machines is very lacking
[05:30] <keyo> how do i mount my hdd, installer isnt finding it
[05:31] <don> I try and install a program with aptitude, it gives me a list of dependencies needed, I upgraded the dependencies and aptitude still see'sthe old versions....do I need to restart?
[05:32] <keyo> chemicalvamp: what cpu
[05:32] <Admiral_Chicago> don: no, what command are you uding
[05:33] <chemicalvamp> keyo amd turion64
[05:33] <don> aptitude upgrade wine   when I do that it tells me that some dependencies need upgraded to another version, but the version it says I need, I have...
[05:34] <chemicalvamp> keyo sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[05:34] <keyo> chemicalvamp: yea I decided against that cpu and recently got a core 2 laptop, i'd like to buy amd but battery life/power usually suck
[05:35] <chemicalvamp> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[05:35] <chemicalvamp> keyo im assuming you want to mount your hdd cuz your on live cd?
[05:36] <keyo> correct
[05:36] <chemicalvamp> those 2 commands will do it
[05:36] <keyo> thanks :)
[05:37] <chemicalvamp> so what might you be doing with it? :)
[05:37] <Admiral_Chicago> don: paste the output to pastebin.ca
[05:37] <chemicalvamp> lol this is funny:
[05:37] <chemicalvamp> !windows
[05:37] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[05:38] <don> admiral_Chicago one moment, terminal is running an upgrade, trying to fix it again.  will do so in a few.
[05:38] <Admiral_Chicago> kk
[05:38] <keyo> chemicalvamp:home file server and posibly mythTV
[05:38] <chemicalvamp> ahh i c
[05:38] <keyo> lol
[05:41] <keyo> hmm it doesn't seem to be mounting
[05:41] <keyo> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[05:41] <keyo> special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[05:42] <chemicalvamp> whats your root?
[05:42] <chemicalvamp> my root is hda1
[05:42] <chemicalvamp> try 2 or 3
[05:42] <keyo> um probably sda1 but im not sure
[05:42] <chemicalvamp> that could very well be
[05:42] <keyo> i think sda is for sata
[05:42] <chemicalvamp> probably
[05:44] <keyo> it always worked on previous versions but now with feisty and 1 removed hdd it won't work out of the box
[05:45] <don> Admiral_Chicago this shows apt-get upgrade wine and apt-get install wine  http://pastebin.ca/427951
[05:45] <don> Looking up those packages in synaptic, it says I DO have the versions it says I need there.
[05:46] <don> When I try to apt-get install 'package' on any of the packages on that list it tells me I have the latest version
[05:46] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on, reading
[05:47] <keyo> ah it seems when i removed the broken hdd i yanked the sata cable off the mobo
[05:47] <keyo> sorry :S
[05:47] <chemicalvamp> keyo :)
[05:47] <Admiral_Chicago> don: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[05:48] <chemicalvamp> at least it will work now
[05:48] <keyo> at least i can't fault linux :)
[05:49] <don> Admiral_Chicago that's what I was doing when I told ya to hold on! heh it's finished now and that pastebin points to what I was told after doing the build-dep
[05:50] <don> maybe I should uninstall wine and try to reinstall the newer version that way?
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i wish I had my system. running
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> try to do it via aptitude
[05:50] <Admiral_Chicago> better about stuff like that
[05:51] <don> I'll paste what it says, but it won't do it either, one sec
[05:51] <don> with aptitude upgrade wine I get the same "package held back" message
[05:53] <Admiral_Chicago> don: please paste you /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:53] <don> Admiral_Chicago it's now telling me, with aptitude install wine, that the missing dependencie list is still there, but to fix it, to remove wine and lib wine....I'm going to move ahead and see what happens
[05:53] <ksnipa> can someobody help me find the font directory
[05:53] <Admiral_Chicago> try that
[05:54] <don> I told it yes, it's working
[05:54] <don> ksnipa I'm new to linux myself, but have to tried 'locate font'?
[05:56] <ksnipa> ?
[05:56] <ksnipa> sorry don, not quite sure where to find that
[05:56] <don> Admiral_Chicago it's givingme the same list of problems after I removed and tried to install.......I'll paste that file for you
[05:56] <don> ksnipa type in 'locate font' in a terminal
[05:57] <ksnipa> don, cool thanks I'll give it a try
[05:57] <ksnipa> don, awsome found them thanks
[05:57] <ksnipa> /usr/share/fonts
[06:01] <don> Admiral_Chicago here is that file you wanted http://pastebin.ca/427961
[06:03] <don> ksnipa that directory/file there should hold your fonts.  What are you wanting/trying to do?
[06:04] <ksnipa> don, nothing really just needed to select a font for vlc player to use for the sub titles
[06:04] <ksnipa> so I just needed to find where they were located so I could select one
[06:04] <don> ksnipa was that directory able to do what you needed?
[06:04] <Admiral_Chicago> don: what architecture do you use?
[06:04] <ksnipa> yea, found all the fonts in there so Just picked the one I wanted
[06:05] <don> ksnipa great!  glad I could help....that's a first for me! lol I'm a newb! hehe
[06:05] <ksnipa> thats awsome, I've been messing around with things for a few months now, learn something new everytime
[06:06] <don> yep, me too.  Still got lot's to learn! lol
[06:06] <Admiral_Chicago> don: what kind of computer are you running. x86?
[06:06] <don> yes
[06:07] <chemicalvamp> bah pentium.. if everybody used amd64 linux would be a happier place
[06:07] <chemicalvamp> well happier for me
[06:07] <Admiral_Chicago> don:  http://pastebin.ca/427964
[06:07] <don> yeah, this is an old P2 laptop
[06:09] <don> Admiral_Chicago what do I do with that?
[06:09] <Admiral_Chicago> don: alt + f2. kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:10] <don> then copy/paste what's in that pastebin over what I have here?
[06:11] <Admiral_Chicago> over everything yes
[06:11] <don> ok
[06:12] <don> Done, now try aptitude install again?
[06:12] <Admiral_Chicago> don: sudo apt-get update
[06:12] <Admiral_Chicago> then try it
[06:12] <don> ok
[06:14] <don> did the update...now try aptitude install wine?
[06:14] <don> or somethingelse first?
[06:16] <Admiral_Chicago> don: yes. try that
[06:16] <don> Admiral_Chicago still same problem...crud
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> wth.
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> no way.
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo aptitude purge wine
[06:17] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo apt-get install wine
[06:17] <don> one moment
[06:18] <premier_> will ubuntu usually recognize mice with more than two buttons and a scroll wheel?  like two scroll wheels, or a fourth button, or something?
[06:18] <Admiral_Chicago> it should
[06:18] <don> I'm purging now, but it is giving me a new list of things being 'kept back'
[06:19] <Admiral_Chicago> grr, what the...
[06:19] <don> it told me one of the directories wasn't empty so it wasn't removed....heh
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> how did you install wine the first time
[06:20] <don> through synaptic got wine version 0.9.9, the upgraded/newest version is 0.9.39 that I'm trying to get...
[06:22] <johey> Firefox and Thunderbird won't skin as my QT apps, even though I have told it to in the system settings. Why? (I haven't tried with other GTK apps).
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> dude...
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> you're trying to rollback versions
[06:23] <Admiral_Chicago> .9 > .39
[06:24] <don> the site says that 0.9.39 is the newest version and the folks at #winehq say that 0.9.9 is old...I know it looks odd, but that's the way of it.
[06:24] <zerothis> forgive my ignorence, I have WIBD. Linux woul allow my to create a directory (~/dira) that linked to another directory (~/dirab) so the everything in dirb would be seen in dira. and then I could link another directory (/media/sd1/dirc) so that everything in dirc would also appear in dira. so dirb and dirc content would both be listed in dira. possible with ln. and would these best be a hard links or symbolic (or one of each)
[06:25] <chemicalvamp> *scratches head*
[06:26] <don> even when I try to use adept it still gives me the error of needing dependencies updated that I already have the versions of it it's asking for...
[06:27] <sonoftheclayr> johey: firefox and thunderbird have their own skin, you could try and find a theme similiar to the one you use in QT
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, that is odd
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> !wine
[06:27] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> try that link
[06:27] <Admiral_Chicago> its not your sources
[06:28] <johey> sonoftheclayr: Well, by default they always have been skinned as my QT apps. I don't know why they don't do that on this system. They did when I ran dapper, but in the upgrade to edgy, they turned into default GTK+2 skin.
[06:29] <khaije1> johey: there is an option to enable qt's gtk+ compatability iirc
[06:30] <sonoftheclayr> johey; hmmm, that's weird but my firefox doesn't skin as my theme, i'm not all that fussed really i like my firfox theme
[06:31] <don> Admiral_Chicago using adept it's updating alot of the 'kept back' packages that were listed before.  that site you gave me simply says to use synaptic...which I may try after adept is done.
[06:31] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, there is no wine repo?
[06:31] <sonoftheclayr> wine has it's own repo's
[06:32] <don> Admiral_Chicago there is, but I get the same error using it...I'll try it once more if synoptic doesn't work.
[06:32] <johey> khaije1: Yes, but as I said it doesn't help.
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> that is really really strange
[06:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm not sure how to help you out
[06:33] <don> using adept to install it doesn't work...this is annoying
[06:34] <Admiral_Chicago> adept and synaptic are both guis for apt
[06:34] <don> I know I have the version of the packages it says I need....I'm considering restarting the computer...maybe then it would recognize the updated ones?
[06:34] <khaije1> johey: iirc its not enabled by default, it's an option under kcontrol
[06:35] <don> how do I know if I"m running edgy or dapper?
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> don: you are using dapper
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> its in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:36] <don> okay, I need to add the wine repository to that file correct?
[06:36] <johey> khaije1: Yes, I have enabled that.
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[06:40] <don> well that didn't help any.  I added everything as it said I should and it still gives me that same list....I'm going to restart the computer and if that doesn't do it I"m done for the night..  Thanks alot for your patience and help.
[06:52] <chemicalvamp> anybody here ever seen "ISOLINUX 3.11 Debian-2006-03-16 isolinux: Image checksum error, sorry...
[06:52] <chemicalvamp> boot failed: press a key to retry
[06:54] <chemicalvamp> sound like a cdrom error?
[06:55] <Powerking89670> Does anyone know of a tutorial that can be used to create a modified version of the Kubuntu live CD?
[07:09] <soulrider_> !info kdeedu
[07:09] <ubotu> kdeedu: educational apps from the official KDE release. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 19 kB, installed size 68 kB
[07:15] <mikes1> I cannot run Opera in feisty
[07:16] <makuseru> is there any way to install kubuntu over a nework? instead of from a CD?
[07:18] <nonuda> !installation
[07:18] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[07:20] <Powerking89670> here is a link for how to do it with a server
[07:20] <Powerking89670> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet
[07:21] <hunshad> hey all
[07:21] <hunshad> somebody can help me
[07:21] <Powerking89670> just ask your question
[07:21] <hunshad> ok
[07:21] <Powerking89670> if someone knows the answer they will give it :D
[07:22] <hunshad> 2 days ago i clean my pc and disconnect composant like video card etc
[07:23] <hunshad> ok and when i turn on my computer trere have no detection of connection to reseau
[07:23] <mardi> hi, i can't seem to get my center speaker working in Kubuntu 6.10, i've messed with alsamixer with no resluts, any help?
[07:23] <hunshad> ok I'm not a big speakin english :P
[07:23] <Powerking89670> whats your native language hunshad?
[07:24] <hunshad> french
[07:24] <hunshad>  but everyall sleep
[07:24] <DaSkreech> Which language hunshad ?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> !fr
[07:24] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:24] <Powerking89670> oh, I know SOME french
[07:24] <DaSkreech> ah :-)
[07:24] <hunshad> ok
[07:24] <hunshad> tu comprend sa
[07:24] <aaroncampbell> what package gives me mod_rewrite for apache?
[07:24] <DaSkreech> I need some help with figuring out a Win(assumed)Modem On a laptop
[07:24] <Powerking89670> oui
[07:24] <hunshad> ok
[07:25] <hunshad> bon tu me dit quel mot tu ne comprend pas
[07:25] <hunshad> bon voila il y a 2 jour jai nettoyer mon pc et j'ai dbrancher les composante externe
[07:26] <Powerking89670> Je suis comprend (?Im not good on saying things in french...I can understand just not speak it)
[07:26] <hunshad> ok me too
[07:26] <hunshad> but for english
[07:26] <Powerking89670> kk, just say it in french then, I can understand you :D
[07:26] <Powerking89670> miraculusly
[07:26] <hunshad> but i can explain in english
[07:26] <makuseru> is there any way to install kubuntu over a nework? instead of from a CD?
[07:26] <hunshad> ok
[07:26] <Powerking89670> here hunshad, lets not disturb these people
[07:26] <Powerking89670> type
[07:26] <hunshad> ta fini de lire
[07:26] <Powerking89670> /join #pkhelp
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Powerking89670: You could just join hin in #kubuntu-fr :-)
[07:27] <DaSkreech> him
[07:28] <DaSkreech> !laptop
[07:28] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[07:29] <Powerking89670> he can do that if I cant get it
[07:31] <ScottLij_>  why is KDE supposed to be better than Gnome?
[07:32] <nixternal> it is all personal choice, this isn't the place to start that either
[07:32] <ScottLij_> well thats certainly not a good question to ask in a Gnome channel
[07:33] <nixternal> and its not a good question to ask in a KDE channel that is here for support, now you can ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic and/or #kubuntu-offtopic and be fine :)
[07:35] <nonuda> has anyone here install ubuntu-desktop?
[07:35] <DaSkreech> nonuda: safe to say yes
[07:36] <|Iwonder|> think you'd get less results by asking who hasn't
[07:36] <chemicalvamp> whats the sudo move command?
[07:36] <|Iwonder|> sudo mv
[07:36] <chemicalvamp> i mean for a folder
[07:36] <nonuda> ok, in quit dialog box, why there's no shutdown or turn off button? can we add it manually?
[07:37] <DaSkreech> chemicalvamp: same
[07:37] <|Iwonder|> sudo mv /dirctory
[07:37] <nonuda> in my ubuntu desktop, the quit dialog box show me only : Log Out, Lock Screen, Switch User, Hibernate and Cancel
[07:38] <Pupeno2> Hello.
[07:38] <Pupeno2> How do I run the wizzard to upgrade to Feisty beta from a totally up-to-date Edgy?
[07:38] <|Iwonder|> my guess would be user doesn't have halt rights
[07:39] <nonuda> so to turning off the pc i have to log out and turn it off in login box..hmm
[07:40] <|Iwonder|> look in your control panel,see if there is a option to allow user to use shutdown or halt
[07:41] <|Iwonder|> or open a console and sudo halt
[07:41] <nonuda> ah ok..
[07:41] <Pupeno2> wouldn't 'sudo halt' halt without properly exiting KDE?
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: read the topic
[07:42] <|Iwonder|> it should telinit 6
[07:42] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: already did, and the instructions in that page don't work for me. I already reported it.
[07:42] <|Iwonder|> which will shutdown all services
[07:42] <DaSkreech> What does it do?
[07:42] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: as well as about 10 other people at least.
[07:42] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: nothing, the wizard never run.s
[07:43] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[07:43] <DaSkreech> did you close and reopen adept?
[07:43] <|Iwonder|> Pupeno2:  did you enable your repos?
[07:43] <DaSkreech> I think that was a bug
[07:43] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: the wizard only runs *if* there is a package being upgraded.
[07:43] <|Iwonder|> yes you must close,reopen and i think update
[07:44] <Pupeno2> |Iwonder|: yes.
[07:44] <|Iwonder|> took me several tries to get it right,i kept overlooking something in instructions
[07:44] <nonuda> what control panel, to make my user have a direct button to shutdown?
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: Worked fine for me.
[07:45] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: I am happy for you then.
[07:45] <|Iwonder|> i also had bad luck with it,i didn't think to clean my repos first ,the upgrade hung and left me with a non bootable system
[07:46] <|Iwonder|> nonuda:  that would depend on your DE
[07:46] <nonuda> desktop envyronment? its ubuntu (gnome)
[07:46] <|Iwonder|> some WM don't have control panels and it must be edited manually,you'd have to research it
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: What's your experince?
[07:47] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: what do you mean?
[07:47] <|Iwonder|> is there gnome control panel with an adminastrative section?
[07:47] <ernie> hello
[07:47] <nonuda> yup
[07:48] <|Iwonder|> i have xfce,icewm and kde,only kde has it
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: Nothing happened?
[07:48] <Pupeno2> Basically, the "Full upgrade" button is disabled on Adept, so there's no way I could press it right now.
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Something broke?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: How is that possible?
[07:48] <nonuda> i do have administration section
[07:48] <DaSkreech> You are on edgy?
[07:48] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: because there's no updates.
[07:48] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: yes.
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: You are on edgy?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> and  are going to Feisty?
[07:49] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: yes.
[07:49] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: yes.
[07:49] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: untill some new package is upgraded, there won't be any possibility to upgrade packages.
[07:49] <DaSkreech> and there are no files on feisty that is different from edgy?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> Woah
[07:50] <Pupeno2> So, basically, I need an alternative way to trigger the upgrade manager.
[07:50] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: what?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: What are you running? which KDE version?
[07:50] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: I have an Edgy install, I am running Edgy and Edgy's KDE.
[07:50] <DaSkreech> ah default install of KDE
[07:51] <se7en11> why don't you edit the sourcelist
[07:51] <DaSkreech> can you paste your sources.list?
[07:51] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: yes.
[07:51] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: sure.
[07:51] <ernie> i have a problem with adept too: adept tells me "a new version of kubuntu is available! Click next if you wish to upgrade now". But the next-button ("Weiter") is disabled (kubuntu 7.03)
[07:52] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: http://paste.lisp.org/display/39350
[07:52] <hunshad> #debian
[07:52] <DaSkreech> ernie: 7.03?
[07:53] <erikja> !force
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about force - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <se7en11> Pupeno2: so change edgy to feisty and do sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:54] <Pupeno2> se7en11: if I do that, I wouldn't be testing the upgrade tool which the Kubuntu devs are asking ups to test: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[07:55] <ernie> DaSkreech: feisty
[07:55] <se7en11> ok Pupeno2
[07:55] <se7en11> but you would upgrade to feisty
[07:56] <Pupeno2> ernie: that's probably why you can't upgrade. You are already running the lattest version. The fact that the upgrade tool is being run is probably a bug (and Feisty is 7.04).
[07:56] <Pupeno2> se7en11: Ok. Thank you.
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Pupeno2: Hmm
[07:56] <DaSkreech> when you click reload do any of the checks fail?
[07:56] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: none.
[07:57] <ernie> Pupeno2: hmmm, but according to the webpage 7.04 is from 23.3.7. my feisty is older!?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> and you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[07:57] <screamo> hey
[07:57] <screamo>  espaol???
[07:57] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: yes.
[07:57] <Pupeno2> !es
[07:57] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:57] <chemicalvamp> !es
[07:57] <screamo> quien habla espaol?
[07:57] <screamo>  do you speak spanish??
[07:58] <Pupeno2> ernie: what?
[07:58] <screamo> oks
[07:58] <chemicalvamp> asi asi
[07:58] <screamo>  thanks _
[07:58] <Pupeno2> screamo: lee lo que dice ubotu.
[07:58] <screamo> oks
[07:58] <DaSkreech> What version of adept do you have?
[07:59] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: "2.1 Cruiser"
[07:59] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: is it supoused to activate the "Full upgrade" button when no package upgrade is available?
[08:00] <DaSkreech> Well enabling edgy-proposed should update adept which should update the package version
[08:01] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: but I have upgraded to all edgy-proposed packages long ago, the edgy-proposed repo has been enabled on my install since day 0 (probably just after a month after edgy was released)>
[08:02] <Pupeno2> DaSkreech: I've installed all those packages, the wizard appeared but I couldn't upgrade at that moment. Now that I can upgrade I can't launch the wizard becauset *it would run only when a package upgrade is in order*.
[08:02] <DaSkreech> ah
[08:02] <DaSkreech> that's a bit different
[08:04] <Pupeno2> So, how do I run the wizard to upgrade to Feisty beta from a totally up-to-date Edgy (including edgy-proposed)?
[08:06] <icecruncher> sudo "adept_updater -d -c" i believe
[08:07] <Pupeno2> icecruncher: adept_updater: Unknown option '-d'.
[08:07] <icecruncher> Pupeno2: not quite sure, check on the forums, it's there
[08:17] <jordan> having trouble following this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318539) to get my wireless setup
[08:19] <Lynoure> jordan: What's your end goal? And at what point you have trouble?
[08:19] <jordan> The end goal is to connect to my wireless router using WPA2 authentication
[08:20] <ernie> ah, as i understand now my system was installed with Herd 5....
[08:20] <Lynoure> jordan: does your router do all those standards?
[08:20] <jordan> it doesn't seem to be accepting the settings in /etc/network/interfaces for my wireless connection, ra0
[08:20] <jordan> Lynoure: yes
[08:22] <jordan> Lynoure: right now it is setup for WPA2 Personal (using shared key) and TKIP+AES ciphers
[08:23] <Lynoure> jordan: Those should be doable even with just networkmanager...
[08:24] <jordan> Lynoure: here is my /etc/network/interfaces file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14342/
[08:24] <Lynoure> jordan: much much easier. But the guy who posted the instructions you are following did also offer to help, it seems ("Post these if you are stumped")
[08:25] <Lynoure> jordan: better change that key afterwards...
[08:27] <Lynoure> jordan: I do not know if rt2500 does all these...
[08:29] <Lynoure> jordan: do you get any errors on ifup?
[08:29] <screamo> a
[08:29] <screamo> e
[08:29] <screamo> i
[08:29] <screamo> o
[08:30] <pingveno> u?
[08:30] <pingveno> and sometimes y?
[08:30] <Lynoure> screamo: sorry, don't want to buy a vowel, try on #wheeloffortune?
[08:30] <jordan_> Lynoure: what version of knetworkmanager do you have? Mine cannot do WPA
[08:31] <jordan_> Lynoure: only WEP
[08:31] <Lynoure> jordan_: well, I'm currently on Feisty, but even the one I had on dapper did...
[08:31] <Lynoure> jordan_: sounds like you are missing something then.
[08:31] <jordan_> Lynoure: I am also running feisty beta
[08:31] <Lynoure> jordan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78250.html could also help you, if you want to configure it manually
[08:32] <pollyo> Hello
[08:32] <pollyo> Anyone know a site like partypoker or fulltiltpoker that will work with linux?
[08:32] <Lynoure> jordan_: do you have installed WPA supplicant?
[08:32] <Lynoure> pollyo: I know people have used partypoker with wine
[08:33] <pollyo> Lynoure: Do you know how well it works?
[08:33] <jordan_> Lynoure: yes
[08:33] <Lynoure> pollyo: not first hand. But I recall them seeing it worked fine.
[08:34] <pollyo> Its a shame they do not have a java client for the poker sites.
[08:34] <pingveno> I'm having some trouble with kmail. I have an imap account set up. With some mail I will suddenly find that the piece of mail has suddenly multiplied into multiple emails. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[08:34] <Lynoure> jordan_: for networkmanager, in dapper, I had to empty /etc/network/interfaces but on feisty it no longer seems necessary
[08:34] <pingveno> No problems on thunderbird on (shiver) Windows
[08:35] <Lynoure> pingveno:  you probably have Delete on server off.
[08:35] <DaSkreech> pingveno: FAIK Kmail ain't great with imap try mailody
[08:35] <Lynoure> pingveno: so each time you get yet another local copy...
[08:35] <se7en11> what's the different between /media/  and media:/    ? if i try mount a partition from media:/ it will not work but the same partiton from /media/ works ????
[08:36] <DaSkreech> media is a link to /mnt?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> I think it's kubuntu specific
[08:37] <se7en11> DaSkreech: no my mnt is empty
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: no
[08:37] <vincersurf> ahh
[08:37] <pingveno> Lynoure: It's an imap account, there's no deleting needed
[08:37] <Lynoure> pingveno: that is not true, if you get a local copy, but sure, for most uses not.
[08:37] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: that wasnt one of the things that Kubuntu changed?
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> nope
[08:38] <pingveno> Lynoure: It gets replicated *on the server*
[08:38] <Lynoure> pingveno: oh, then I'd look into the imap server software.
[08:38] <pingveno> Lynoure: I can see it when I view it in Thunderbird or through webmail
[08:39] <pingveno> Lynoure: shouldn't it just work (tm) because imap is a generic protocol?
[08:39] <screamo> ola?
[08:39] <pingveno> It is, btw, an imap interface to an Exchange sever
[08:39] <bill> what can I use to convert a DVD to mpeg-4?
[08:40] <se7en11> DaSkreech: i formated my windows partion and now i can't mount the partion from media:/ only from /media
[08:40] <Lynoure> pingveno: some servers are buggy, too. Of course it Should Just Work, ideally, but not always in RL
[08:40] <pollyo> I'm giving partypoker a try through wine.
[08:40] <pingveno> Lynoure: Ah, but of course
[08:40] <screamo_> spanish??
[08:40] <pollyo> bill: Does k9copy do that?
[08:40] <screamo> ???
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: any clue why?
[08:40] <Lynoure> pingveno: there is a bug reported on that, it seems http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143518
[08:40] <DaSkreech> !es | screamo
[08:40] <ubotu> screamo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:41] <pingveno> Lynoure: Oh, thanks!
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: to what?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> se7en11's media:/ issue?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> he formatted a partition and can't see it in media:/ anymore
[08:41] <DaSkreech>  unless the UID got messed up?
[08:42] <Lynoure> pingveno: actually it seem http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118074 has all the yummy details
[08:42] <Admiral_Chicago> perhaps. I don't use the uid. don't like it
[08:42] <pingveno> Lynoure: Yeah, I'm looking through the comments
[08:42] <emoXcore> osasa
[08:42] <Lynoure> pingveno: ok, good luck. :)
[08:42] <pingveno> Lynoure: thanks
[08:42] <pingveno> I'll see what I can do
[08:44] <pollyo> Anyone know the estimated number of linux users worldwide?
[08:44] <hackdaddy> i upgraded firefox but now nothing happens when i start it.  i tried removing and reinstalling, but nothing seems to make it work
[08:45] <DaSkreech> pollyo: a lot more than you think / Not enough
[08:45] <DaSkreech> hackdaddy: start it from the konsole
[08:45] <pollyo> DaSkreech: It will ben ice to start seeing sites have the MAC/Windows/Linux download options.
[08:46] <abortd> pollyo, 29 million
[08:46] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: What's up with feisty?
[08:46] <hackdaddy> daskreech, you rock!!!  thanks!!!!
[08:46] <DaSkreech> hackdaddy: Yeah firefox gets on my nerves some times
[08:46] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: it's got to many problems
[08:46] <hackdaddy> daskreech, another 3 sec expert
[08:46] <Admiral_Chicago> hackdaddy: ...thats not a permanant fix
[08:46] <DaSkreech> hackdaddy: if you want the konsole you can put firefox in the background
[08:47] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: Like?
[08:47] <Admiral_Chicago> firefox &
[08:47] <hackdaddy> daskreech, :-) :-)
[08:47] <pollyo> Ok Partpoker installed now lets see if it loads.
[08:47] <nonuda> guys, i still can't find the way to add a direct shutdown button in ubuntu desktop
[08:47] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: like usb not recognized at all, and lot's of random program crashes
[08:47] <hackdaddy> i just used the run command like start->run :-)  daskreesh
[08:48] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: random programs? or the same ones keep crashing?
[08:48] <se7en11> one more thing if i backup my /home/.kde folder and cp it back in a new install will i have all my settings back?
[08:48] <DaSkreech> hackdaddy: ah that works as well
[08:48] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: the wierd part is that there is nothing to report since the don't leave behind a nice crahreport
[08:48] <DaSkreech>  I just always have a Konsole open :-)
[08:48] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: they just disappear huh?
[08:48] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: yup
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Yeah I had the same issue on edgy
[08:48] <DaSkreech>  Figured it was my RAM
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Then I just blamed it on Firefox
[08:49] <hackdaddy> where can i get rosegarden and other midi editors as a ubuntu package?
[08:49] <icecruncher> lol, my fx crashes too
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Yeah it does
[08:49] <pollyo> Loads and runs like a windows program... Swaping system like crazy...
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Wonder when we will get iceweasel
[08:50] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: how about 5 packages held back not installable and a few broken ones
[08:50] <DaSkreech> which ones got held back?
[08:50] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: krusader, libraries and scribus
[08:51] <CatRangers> hello
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Would be nice if apt could tell you why
[08:51] <CatRangers> someone can help me ?
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> CatRangers: we can try
[08:51] <DaSkreech> !anyone
[08:51] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:51] <CatRangers> i need to know how to install vmware workstation in kubuntu
[08:51] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: lol, and I forgot, kopete crahes as soon as I sign into msn
[08:51] <Admiral_Chicago> if you ask your question of course
[08:52] <CatRangers> Admiral_Chicago: nice :D please
[08:52] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: Yeah I hate kopete but as #gaim 's topic says If you have problems with MSN assume that it's MSN
[08:52] <DaSkreech> !vmware
[08:52] <CatRangers> how i do it ?
[08:52] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[08:52] <Lynoure> Is there a way to adjust the height of the menubar? Currently I have a lot of slack space below and above the font.
[08:53] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: haha, of course
[08:53] <CatRangers> DaSkreech:  thanks ^^
[08:53] <manchicken> Anybody here use kpilot with a palm device?
[08:53] <CatRangers> but i have a tag file that i downloaded
[08:53] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: If it makes you feel any better my friend's gaim kept crashing everytime he connected to yahoo all week
[08:54] <DaSkreech> !kpilot
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpilot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <nick__> hey guys, what't the shortcut in kde to get to the menu of a window? you know when you click the top left corner, you get a menu... how do i access that without touching my mouse?
[08:54] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: lol, amsn was to solution
[08:54] <DaSkreech> nick__: alt+f3
[08:54] <Lynoure> manchicken: I do
[08:54] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: how is that?
[08:54] <nick__> DaSkreech: beauty, thanks
[08:54] <DaSkreech> I started using it when it was less than two months old
[08:54] <Lynoure> manchicken: to some degree, at least, on feisty.
[08:54] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: dunno, just works with that, and no probs
[08:54] <manchicken> Lynoure: Do you have any trouble setting up the conduits to sync up with kontact?
[08:55] <cyt> Hi all, My network env. is ADSL, and I find that at the "Configure network interfaces" stage of booting process, it will hang several minutes. Any suggestions?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: Is it trying to be the Windows Live messenger or is it just sticking with old fashioned MSN messenger?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> cyt: Press ctrl+Z
[08:56] <hackdaddy> how do i unzip a bz2 extension file?
[08:56] <Lynoure> manchicken: well, yes. korganizer things still multiply the entries...
[08:56] <DaSkreech> hackdaddy: with ark
[08:56] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: dunno,
[08:56] <hackdaddy> thanks, dasckreech!!!
[08:56] <manchicken> Lynoure: I'm not able to get it to sync at all.
[08:57] <manchicken> Lynoure: Says it can't open the conduit.
[08:57] <kai> Does any one know the name of the MySQL GUI tool?
[08:57] <kai> I can't find that package
[08:57] <manchicken> kai: I think it's called the "Trash Bin"
[08:57] <manchicken> :)
[08:58] <kai> manchicken: ....No I already checked there :|
[08:58] <manchicken> kai: Look in adept.  They've got several in there.
[08:58] <kai> I'll check again
[08:59] <kai> I was in cli when I was tryin to find it
[08:59] <pollyo> Kmysqladmin?
[08:59] <manchicken> kai: Just look for "mysql" and I think there's the query thing, and the whatever browser.
[08:59] <pollyo> Mysqladministrator?
[08:59] <cyt> DaSkreech: Thx, I will try it :)
[09:00] <kai> How ya'll do that> another question is this kIRC client only limite to linux are can i gon other one like on mIRc?
[09:00] <developer> Hey all :)
[09:01] <Lynoure> manchicken: hmm, I'm not having that.
[09:01] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: Don't know the difference between MSN and Live messenger?
[09:01] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: except fot eh interface no. lol
[09:01] <DaSkreech> kai: Huh?
[09:02] <kai> * Admiral_Chicago hits manchicken with all 57 variaties of Heinz
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> ?
[09:02] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: never used licve myself
[09:02] <icecruncher> *live
[09:02] <Admiral_Chicago> bbia
[09:02] <kai> And I wanna know if I can get into the same irc hcat room that I would like in mIRC
[09:03] <kai> I like to mod my box an dI have to to xbins, can I get there from here?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: can it accept those aggravating emoticons that replae normal words?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> kai: yes you can
[09:03] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: ja
[09:03] <Admiral_Chicago> kai: of course
[09:04] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: remind me never to install amsn
[09:04] <Admiral_Chicago> kai:  but ask  DaSkreech, i'm afk
[09:04] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: haha
[09:04] <kai> do I have to make a new server channel
[09:06] <kai> My bad, Im still learning some of the things
[09:07] <kai> I still never learned how to access mySql with having a million .jar files in all my directories
[09:08] <flaccid> mysql -u root -p
[09:08] <flaccid> ?
[09:17] <kai> flaccid: whats that command?
[09:18] <flaccid> thats the command to connect to the mysql server with the mysql client
[09:18] <flaccid> with the root account, asking for pass
[09:18] <DavyT> um
[09:19] <DavyT> kubuntu and a nvidia 8800gtx
[09:19] <DavyT> are those going to work together?
[09:19] <flaccid> !nvidia
[09:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:19] <flaccid> i believe so
[09:20] <flaccid> mmm
[09:21] <flaccid> should do
[09:21] <DavyT> yeah?
[09:21] <DavyT> you dont seem really sure :x
[09:21] <flaccid> check..
[09:22] <flaccid> the vesa driver will always work and the binary one should too
[09:22] <DavyT> well yeah
[09:23] <flaccid> nvidia-glx
[09:23] <flaccid> !nvidia-glx
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nvidia-glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <flaccid> also http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Edgy
[09:24] <DavyT> well
[09:24] <DavyT> thanks for your help
[09:24] <flaccid> np
[09:26] <flaccid> i use this one at work: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV40 [GeForce 6800 Ultra/GeForce 6800 GT]  (rev a2)
[09:27] <jack_> hi, i've got the problem that when i am idle xorg cpu load goes up to 100%, centrino duo core processor used.thanks
[09:28] <ghjk> Hi There
[09:28] <DaSkreech> jack_: have Firefox open?
[09:29] <jack_> DaSkreech: yes, often, but it happens without firefox too
[09:29] <ghjk> I have a ASROCK MB with an AMD64X2 3800 and doesn't recognize sound and NIC!
[09:29] <DaSkreech> !sound
[09:29] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:29] <ghjk> is this sound familiar to you guys?
[09:29] <jack_> when there is no app running which is not a system app daskreech
[09:30] <ghjk> I see
[09:30] <manchicken> w00t!
[09:30] <manchicken> Fixed it.
[09:30] <DaSkreech> manchicken: Whatchado?
[09:30] <manchicken> jpilot has the best logging of all of the sync proggies.
[09:30] <manchicken> Well, I was trying out different ones to see if it was just kpilot that was failing to read the PIM databases.
[09:30] <ghjk> also, I have a SATAII HD and when I try to install it, freezes after partitioning almost 36%
[09:31] <flaccid> !kpilot
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kpilot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <manchicken> jpilot left a log on there telling me that wireless sync was disabling PIM syncing for other proggies.
[09:31] <flaccid> dang
[09:31] <manchicken> So I went in, changed the wireless sync settings on the treo, and BAM!  it looks like it's syncing.
[09:31] <manchicken> Which is just so delicious.
[09:31] <manchicken> I've been fighting with it for about 5 hours now.
[09:33] <manchicken> I'm pretty happy about that.
[09:33] <DavyT> wow
[09:34] <meh> !media
[09:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[09:34] <meh> !dvd
[09:34] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:39] <Voker57> how can i add a path where programs must search libraries
[09:39] <Voker57> ?
[09:39] <DaSkreech> !path
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about path - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <DaSkreech> Oh wait you want a libpath
[09:39] <manchicken> !$PATH
[09:39] <Voker57> DaSkreech: yes
[09:40] <Voker57> i was already told something about it, but forgot the thing
[09:40] <Voker57> it was something with ldconfig
[09:40] <emoXcore> sasa
[09:40] <emoXcore> spanish
[09:40] <DaSkreech> !es
[09:40] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:42] <Voker57> !ru
[09:42] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[09:43] <intelikey> Voker57 the PATH variable can be set in several places.   /etc/environment /etc/profile /etc/bash.bashrc  $HOME/.bashrc $HOME/.profile $HOME/.bash_bashrc    and possably others.      in all but the /etc/environment  use  export PATH="/all/your:/path/needs:/here"
[09:43] <Voker57> eh
[09:44] <intelikey> Voker57 seeing that the ones with    $HOME/.  are all user specific it's better to use one of them if you can.
[09:44] <DaSkreech> intelikey: he wants libpath
[09:44] <Voker57> i get that: error while loading shared libraries: libguichan.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:44] <intelikey> oh lib path    yes that's something else
[09:44] <Voker57> while this lib exists in /usr/local/lib/
[09:45] <emoXcore> spanish?
[09:45] <emoXcore> help mee
[09:45] <emoXcore>  xD
[09:45] <Voker57> i tried modifying ld.conf and running ldconfig
[09:45] <digitx> : D
[09:45] <emoXcore> spanish?
[09:45] <emoXcore> hii??
[09:45] <emoXcore> x_x
[09:45] <digitx> hungarian ?
[09:45] <emoXcore> =(
[09:45] <emoXcore> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:45] <emoXcore> hola
[09:45] <digitx> szia
[09:45] <emoXcore> hey?
[09:46] <digitx> hey ;)
[09:46] <emoXcore> x_x
[09:46] <Voker57> emoXcore: /join #kubuntu-es
[09:46] <emoXcore> no
[09:46] <emoXcore> =P
[09:46] <digitx>  /join #gentoo-hu
[09:46] <digitx> :D
[09:46] <emoXcore> emM no =P
[09:46] <digitx> ;)
[09:46] <DaSkreech> !coc | emoXcore Please look at this
[09:46] <ubotu> emoXcore Please look at this: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:47] <DaSkreech> !hu
[09:47] <ubotu> Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[09:47] <digitx> :D
[09:47] <emoXcore> =O
[09:47] <digitx> !es
[09:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:47] <emoXcore> NO
[09:47] <emoXcore> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:47] <emoXcore> _
[09:47] <emoXcore> nooo
[09:47] <DaSkreech> intelikey: can we devoice him?
[09:48] <emoXcore> my ban kubuntu ubuntu edubuntu es
[09:48] <hackdaddy> how do i setup my midi subsystem on kubuntu?
[09:48] <intelikey> Voker57  mmmm /etc/ld.so.conf   maybe ?
[09:48] <emoXcore> O_O?
[09:48] <DaSkreech> !midi
[09:48] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[09:48] <emoXcore> i can speak english u_u
[09:48] <hackdaddy> thanks!
[09:48] <hackdaddy> !midi
[09:48] <Voker57> intelikey: i did it...
[09:48] <nonuda_> !forum
[09:48] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:49] <icecruncher> can anyone help on how to set up a netboot/install
[09:50] <fdoving> emoXcore: good, then please behave yourself and have a look at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IrcGuidelines - if you have a question, please ask, if not please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. thanks :)
[09:50] <meh> !.wmv
[09:50] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:51] <DaSkreech> !netboot
[09:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:51] <icecruncher> !ping
[09:51] <ubotu> pong
[09:53] <icecruncher> !ping
[09:53] <ubotu> pong
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> !abuse | icecruncher
[09:54] <ubotu> icecruncher: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> that's for the !ping
[09:54] <icecruncher> Admiral_Chicago: come on twice?
[09:54] <DaSkreech> isn't there a !btabuse
[09:54] <DaSkreech> botabuse
[09:54] <icecruncher> lol
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> DaSkreech: yea probably but i foget the command
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> icecruncher: well im just avoiding hw...
[09:55] <Admiral_Chicago> to be honest
[09:55] <ghjk> any one knowing about SATA II problems?
[09:55] <DaSkreech> !botabuse
[09:55] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:56] <ghjk> I have a ASROCK with NVIDIA NF-6100-430
[09:56] <ghjk> and can't detect sound, GB LAN and doesn't install on a SATA II HD
[09:56] <ghjk> when trying to install
[09:56] <ghjk> it doesn't finish with the partitions creating!
[09:57] <ghjk> any one who could a tip on these problems?
[09:58] <posingaspopular> ghjk: did you try google/ubuntu forums?
[09:58] <posingaspopular> thats all i have, i dont know anything abotu SATAsince i use IDE
[09:59] <ghjk> no I didn't :-(
[09:59] <ghjk> sorry for that
[09:59] <ghjk> trying firts to see if I could any quick help
[10:00] <posingaspopular> ghjk: its okay
[10:00] <ghjk> if it was something known already
[10:00] <posingaspopular> ask again in  a few if you want, as long as you don't spam, but usually those give you the fastest answers
[10:01] <icecruncher> k, is it possible to make a net install without a local server?
[10:01] <ghjk> you mean the forums?
[10:01] <ghjk> they are faster than the IRC?
[10:01] <fdoving> !install | icecruncher
[10:01] <ubotu> icecruncher: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:02] <icecruncher> !automat > icecruncher
[10:02] <icecruncher> !automate > icecruncher
[10:02] <posingaspopular> ghjk: what i mean is that you never know when irc will have the answer
[10:02] <ghjk> yeah that's right!
[10:03] <ghjk> I was just trying to see if I'm lucky enough!
[10:03] <ghjk> OK
[10:03] <ghjk> thanks
[10:03] <ghjk>  you guys
[10:03] <ghjk> just a generic question
[10:03] <ghjk> I thought that NVIDIA is better supported in Linux than VIA
[10:04] <ghjk> is that right?
[10:04] <DaSkreech> Who said that?
[10:04] <wolferine> hehe
[10:04] <DaSkreech> depends on what you mean by support
[10:05] <shad-99> any one know how to get access to your usb harddrive and get permission?
[10:05] <ghjk> I mean that they get picked-up immediately when you install it
[10:06] <wolferine> shad-99, no, I dont have a usb harddrive
[10:06] <shad-99> ahh ok
[10:06] <DaSkreech> shad-99: Just mount it
[10:06] <shad-99> strange... it worked before, but now it says that i don't have permissions to enter it? -Wierd?
[10:09] <DaSkreech> shad-99: You mounted it manually?
[10:09] <shad-99> yea via the disk menu
[10:09] <shad-99> but i can't access it any more
[10:09] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[10:10] <K`zan> Looks like edgy is a bust for me, /dev/ttyUSB* stuff quit working with updates today :-(.
[10:10] <K`zan> ww
[10:10] <K`zan> Looks like edgy is a bust for me, /dev/ttyUSB* stuff quit working with updates today :-(.
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[10:10] <K`zan> argh..
[10:10] <shad-99> So where can i set back or change permissions then?
[10:11] <gdiebel> could someone recommend a avahi browser for kde?
[10:11] <DaSkreech> shad-99: try remount it with a -uid=0022
[10:19] <fdoving> gdiebel: does kdnssd and zeroconf:/ in konqueror do what you want?
[10:21] <shad-99> OK... thanks guy
[10:21] <shad-99> but it didn't work out.. have to find other ways to solve this crap
[10:21] <shad-99> But thanks all of you for helping out here! ;)
[10:23] <DaSkreech> shad-99: mounting it with a umask of 0022 doesn't work?
[10:24] <fdoving> you shouldn't mount removable devices as root.
[10:25] <DaSkreech> fdoving: How do you mount them then?
[10:25] <fdoving> DaSkreech: with pmount as the user (which is member of the plugdev group).
[10:25] <fdoving> the kde media handler uses pmount to handle this.
[10:27] <enry> hu
[10:27] <shad-99> i don't.. but it won't let me access it cos i don't have permissions to do it?
[10:27] <enry> hi
[10:27] <fdoving> shad-99: it's mounted, but you're not given access to the contents?
[10:28] <shad-99> yes that's right
[10:28] <fdoving> shad-99: how was it mounted? by the kde automount-thing?
[10:28] <shad-99> yes i think so .. yea
[10:29] <fdoving> shad-99: ok, open a konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) then run: 'cat /media/.hal-mtab'
[10:29] <fdoving> shad-99: what does it say?
[10:30] <shad-99> i click on that konqueror meny and choose media and there it is.. and then click on it, and it wont letting me in?
[10:30] <shad-99> ok hold on
[10:34] <shad-99> kdmeny is that terminal or what?
[10:34] <alfonso> hola
[10:35] <fdoving> shad-99: kmenu is the K-button in the lower left corner.
[10:35] <shad-99> hahaha .. i am a newbie guy's.. take it easy ... LOL
[10:36] <fdoving> the K with the gear.
[10:38] <mardi> hi, my kubuntu 6.10 hangs at the shutdown spalsh screen, anyone know where i look to see what the problem could be?
[10:38] <shad-99> ahh
[10:40] <gdiebel> fdoving: yeah i guess that will do nicely
[10:42] <posingaspopular> mardi: ubuntu forums most likely
[10:42] <mardi> looking there now...
[10:42] <mardi> thanks tho
[10:45] <DaSkreech> mardi: try removing the quiet designation on bootup
[10:45] <DaSkreech>  also read dmesg
[10:46] <mardi> does dmesg show messages from the previous shutdown?
[10:49] <shad-99> it says... No such file or directory? cat /media/.hal-mtab?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> mardi: should
[10:49] <DaSkreech> fdoving: alt+space is faster
[10:50] <shad-99> should i put sudo in front of that line?
[10:50] <binks> !berly
[10:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about berly - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:50] <binks> !beryl
[10:50] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:59] <meh> hmm the link to realplayer 10 on https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.htl is broken.
[10:59] <meh> does anyone else know where i can get it?
[11:00] <DaSkreech> htl?
[11:00] <posingaspopular> meh: googlemaybe?
[11:00] <posingaspopular> i'll talk to people and make sure that gets fixed
[11:00] <intelikey> my console is not reading any runtime configs when i open a new console.    any one know about these things ?
[11:01] <meh> posingaspopular: yeah on to it
[11:01] <posingaspopular> meh: hmmm works fine for me
[11:02] <posingaspopular> probably that you wrote htl
[11:02] <meh> posingaspopular: no the page works ok, but the link to realplayer 10 on the page doesnt
[11:02] <meh> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/r/realplay/realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[11:02] <meh> that one
[11:03] <posingaspopular> ahhhh i see
[11:03] <posingaspopular> you are correct
[11:03] <intelikey> anyone know what i might try to get this thing to read .bashrc   or /etc/profile   when opening a console ?
[11:05] <intelikey> i get this kind of prompt "bash-3.00$"  and  "SHLVL=7"   eeek.
[11:06] <intelikey>    SHLVL=3   for the first console opened with openvt ....    something is screwy here...
[11:07] <intelikey> login gets  SHLVL=1   ......
[11:07] <hyper_ch> intelikey: do you use feisty?
[11:08] <intelikey> hyper_ch no.
[11:08] <hyper_ch> intelikey: ok... :(
[11:08] <intelikey> hyper_ch i could expect that out of feisty tho....
[11:08] <crube> I need the command to check diskspace. I've forgottenit
[11:08] <hyper_ch> well, I was asking because of another problem... opera won't run anymore
[11:09] <hyper_ch> crube: you mean how much is used?
[11:09] <crube> Yeah
[11:09] <hyper_ch> crube: or do a filesystem check?
[11:09] <DaSkreech> df -h
[11:09] <crube> DaSkreech: That's what I was looking for
[11:09] <nix> Hello everybody..
[11:09] <posingaspopular> fdisk -l
[11:09] <posingaspopular> crube: i think thats it
[11:10] <crube> posingaspopular: df is the one I've been uring. I think it's a little more simple.
[11:10] <crube> using*
[11:10] <posingaspopular> hmm ive never heardof/used it
[11:11] <hyper_ch> fdisk -l doesn't show how much is used... does it?
[11:12] <posingaspopular> hyper_ch: i duno im on a windows box right now (router hates *nix for some reason) so i cant check
[11:13] <hyper_ch> posingaspopular: well it doesn't show it for me
[11:13] <posingaspopular> ahh well you are most likely right
[11:14] <hyper_ch> posingaspopular: ^^
[11:14] <posingaspopular> hyper_ch: it sucks. i have 3 computers with ubuntu, and i have to use windows for the internet connection...
[11:14] <posingaspopular> how lame is that?
[11:16] <hackdaddy> !midi
[11:16] <ubotu> Trouble playing MIDI files? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[11:19] <Aladin> Was ist der Unterschied zwischen Zwischenspeicher und Pufferspeicher in der Anzeige der KDE-Systemberwachung?
[11:19] <fdoving> !de | aladin
[11:19] <ubotu> aladin: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:20] <fdoving> Aladin: or you could always translate Unterschied zwischen Zwischenspeicher Pufferspeicher and Anzeige and Systemberwachung :)
[11:25] <berkes> is there central changelog or log that tells me why packages are to be upgraded and what has changed?
[11:26] <yaccin> is there an other program like checkinstalls which can make .debs?
[11:27] <mkquist> posingaspopular - just a quick thought, are you using dhcp on the router?
[11:27] <DaSkreech> changelog.ubuntu.com
[11:27] <binks> ok can i use fdisc to format my usb device /media/disk
[11:27] <berkes> DaSkreech: txx
[11:29] <berkes> changelog.ubuntu.com does not exist.
[11:31] <kaiser> ?
[11:31] <posingaspopular> mkquist: i don't know... how would i find out
[11:32] <posingaspopular> and why is that information important?
[11:32] <kaiser> i need help: whats a gedti command for kubuntu?
[11:32] <kaiser> gedit
[11:32] <david> kaiser:  kate
[11:32] <kaiser> thank you
[11:32] <david> np
[11:33] <mkquist> what kind of router?
[11:33] <mkquist> is this a home setup/
[11:33] <mkquist> ?
[11:34] <mkquist> posingaspopular - what kind of router?
[11:35] <posingaspopular> yea its seimens speedsteam 4100
[11:36] <posingaspopular> http://subscriber.communications.siemens.com/subscriber_networks/4100.shtml
[11:36] <posingaspopular> it should work perfect with ubuntu
[11:36] <posingaspopular> though according to SBC, the phone lines don't support linux
[11:38] <posingaspopular> and sudo pppoeconf didn't work at all
[11:38] <yaccin> is there another program like checkinstall which can make .debs?
[11:39] <mkquist> posingaspopular - i dont see why the os would have anything to do w/that... i was just thinking that you might try assigning ip address to at least one of the computers and see if that helps
[11:40] <mkquist> posingaspopular - instead of using dhcp (which is that routers default) try opening http://192.168.254.254 in a browser window to access the router
[11:40] <posingaspopular> mkquist: i was going to use the windows machine as a gateway, see if that works,but not tonight
[11:44] <mkquist> posingaspopular - ur router should be ur gateway if im not mistaken
[11:45] <posingaspopular> mkquist: yea i duno too much about ip/gateway/router/dhcp ir anything
[11:45] <posingaspopular> i'll mess around with it later thoguh
[11:45] <posingaspopular> thanks for the info
[11:46] <mkquist> posingaspopular - do you have the routers book? if so just try static ip for one of the linux machines, see if that might help...
[11:46] <posingaspopular> mkquist: maybe i do... somewhere.....
[11:46] <mkquist> posingaspopular - had that problem once w/ubuntu install, doing that fixed it
[11:47] <mkquist> posingaspopular - http://subscriber.communications.siemens.com/documents/4x00UG_English.pdf
[11:47] <mkquist> posingaspopular - just a thought... g/l
[11:48] <posingaspopular> ahhh thanks mkquist i appreciate it
[11:48] <mkquist> posingaspopular - thats it online btw (manual)
[11:48] <mkquist> enjoy
[11:49] <posingaspopular> see the issue is that they give info on XP and OSX
[11:49] <mkquist> so what do they say?
[11:49] <posingaspopular> im going to WINE this internet connection....
[11:49] <sonoftheclayr> but you've got us! what more could you want?
[11:50] <mkquist> how would WINE help?
[11:50] <posingaspopular> mkquist: my brother is a 'substantial contributor' to ubuntu and he was supposed to fix this stuff...but he fell asleep
[11:51] <mkquist> well, then im sure he'll get it fixed for ya... =)
[11:52] <posingaspopular> well i live with him for a large portion of the year, so i know he wont....
[12:09] <gansinho> hello, please, how do I change my kde dicionary, I like to use the system in english, but most of my text are written in portuguese, and apps like kmail don't correct my misspelling mistakes, I would like to change it.
[12:12] <posingaspopular> :( thats a strange request. i dont know the answer, sorry
[12:14] <gansinho> posingaspopular: thanks anyway
[12:15] <posingaspopular> np, ask again if you can't get a response in a few minutes
[12:15] <c1|freaky> gansinho: what spelling checking program do u use?
[12:16] <gansinho> c1|freaky: I haven't changed the kde default
[12:16] <c1|freaky> i dont know what the kde default is
[12:16] <c1|freaky> ;D
[12:16] <c1|freaky> whatever it is just search for it
[12:16] <c1|freaky> with apt-cache search aspell
[12:16] <c1|freaky> f.e.
[12:16] <c1|freaky> and it will give u a list of spelling packages in different languages
[12:17] <gansinho> c1|freaky: right now kde checks my spelling but not in the right language..
[12:17] <c1|freaky> wait
[12:17] <c1|freaky> ill look
[12:18] <gansinho> k
[12:18] <c1|freaky> go to system settings --> local settings and language
[12:18] <c1|freaky> or something like that
[12:18] <c1|freaky> i have it in german
[12:18] <c1|freaky> and there under spell checking
[12:19] <c1|freaky> you can change those settings
[12:22] <anti_pop>  why is it required to let the memtest run several hours and not only 1 cycle ?
[12:24] <gansinho> c1|freaky: I just have regional&language menu, and in there in the dictionarys I don't have portuguese, any idea how to install new ones?
[12:25] <edgy> anti_pop: I guess each cycle test for different errors
[12:26] <anti_pop> edgy: ah ok thanks, do you know how many cycles i should run it? first gives no errors, each takes about 50 minutes, isnt it a endless test ?
[12:27] <Blissex> anti_pop: at lest 8-10 hours.
[12:28] <anti_pop> okay
[12:28] <edgy> anti_pop: and the first cycles would discover the important errors, think 80/20 rule
[12:31] <Betzefer> any 1 needs help?
[12:32] <anti_pop> thanks for your information, guys
[12:32] <anti_pop> gotta go,m bye bye
[12:39] <juan> ola
[12:46] <c1|freaky> gansinho: the standard is aspell so do apt-cache search aspell and look for a spell dictionary in the langauge u want
[12:47] <gansinho> c1|freaky:  thanks a lot!
[12:47] <c1|freaky> np
[01:02] <tom_> is this working
[01:03] <tom_> good
[01:03] <xnitex> hey i have a question, is it possible to theme out the kicker panel, etc etc?
[01:03] <xnitex> :] 
[01:03] <posingaspopular> xnitex: theme out the kicker panel...?
[01:03] <posingaspopular> ummmm
[01:03] <posingaspopular> i mean, i dont know how to answer that
[01:03] <xnitex> to theme the kicker panel
[01:03] <posingaspopular> ive never given that a though
[01:03] <posingaspopular> ohhh
[01:04] <posingaspopular> change the kicker panel to match a theme
[01:04] <xnitex> yes yes
[01:04] <posingaspopular> right click, properties.
[01:04] <posingaspopular> is all i can gues...
[01:04] <posingaspopular> like i said, i havent given that much thought
[01:04] <posingaspopular> ask in #ubuntu-effects, they might now
[01:06] <xnitex> thnx
[01:06] <xnitex> :] 
[01:08] <posingaspopular> np. maybe someone here knows too, try asking again in a bit
[01:28] <aldin> how can i set up that if i right clikc on some gzipped file i have extract here... i have installed kde-core...
[01:28] <aldin> not only extract to
[01:29] <stamen> hi
[01:29] <stamen> why when I have upgraded my xserver-xorg beryl can't work well
[01:29] <stamen> this is for beryl
[01:29] <aldin> pardon... it was all about permisions, if i have rwx it it works..
[01:29] <stamen>  when I start it the window it is flickering
[01:30] <stamen>  I am running custom compiled kernel and I have preinstalled the drivers, what to do
[01:30] <aldin> stamen, try reloading window manager or window decoerator
[01:30] <stamen> I try to reload it with the beryl manager, but all is the samo
[01:30] <stamen> same
[01:33] <aldin> stamen, did u reboot ur comp?
[01:33] <aldin> after upgrade?
[01:34] <stamen> I think I am not :)
[01:34] <stamen> now I get it :)
[01:34] <aldin> ok, see u after reboot
[01:34] <stamen> ok
[01:34] <stamen> :)
[01:38] <Betzefer> any 1 needs help ?
[01:47] <lordofheat> how to make konversation to auto connect when launched?
[01:47] <lordofheat> I mean kopete
[01:47] <lordofheat> sry
[01:49] <binks> !grub
[01:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:51] <Betzefer> !fuck
[01:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuck - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:51] <Betzefer> lol
[01:52] <johey> When I upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, GTK no longer adapt the skin from QT, even though I have selected that in the system setting tool. Why, and what can I do about it?
[01:53] <fuel> johey: reinstall qt-gtk package
[01:57] <johey> fuel: I find no such package.
[01:59] <fuel_> !gtk-qt
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtk-qt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <fuel_> johey:  http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/gtk-qt
[02:01] <johey> fuel: Ah, thanks alot!
[02:02] <johey> Why are apt-get "holding back" a lot of packages? How can I force them to be installed?
[02:04] <intelikey> what's a gnome eq for kfax ?
[02:05] <intelikey> Setting up x-window-system-core (6.8.2-10) ...
[02:05] <intelikey> but still no startx command   ???
[02:05] <intelikey> bash: startx: command not found
[02:06] <binks> sudo aptitude install xorg
[02:06] <binks> lol
[02:06] <binks> intelikey: how do i reinstall grub
[02:07] <intelikey> binks sudo grub-install /dev/<wherever>
[02:08] <binks> :) intelikey
[02:10] <ubuntu_> hi
[02:15] <cox377> when i try and mount a smb share
[02:15] <cox377> i get this error
[02:15] <cox377> 22082: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[02:15] <cox377> SMB connection failed
[02:15] <cox377> i've tried every password i know
[02:16] <cox377> well from the kubuntu share host and this kubuntu machine
[02:17] <cox377> anyone got any ideas?
[02:20] <intelikey> #kubuntu died!    R.I.P.   #kubuntu      ;'(
[02:20] <tarragon> just a suggestion but try mount -t smbfs -o username=yourusername,workgroup=<yourwkgrpname> //cox377/home /mnt/remotedrive
[02:21] <cox377> tarragon: let me give it a go
[02:22] <cox377> tarragon: doesit have to be // for my mount location?
[02:22] <johey> How can I solve this: kdelibs4c2a: Depends: kdelibs-data (< 4:3.5.6) but 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu7really3.5.5 is to be installed
[02:23] <tarragon> yes i think so
[02:24] <intelikey> johey install newer kdelibs4c2a ?      streighten out your sources.list ?     uninstall kdelibs4c2a  ?
[02:25] <cox377> tarragon: this is the msg i get
[02:25] <johey> intelikey: It might be because I tried to upgrade to feisty...
[02:25] <cox377> This command is designed to be run from within /bin/mount by giving
[02:25] <cox377> the option '-t smbfs'. For example:
[02:25] <cox377>   mount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar //fjall/test /data/test
[02:25] <intelikey> johey yep'rs
[02:28] <cox377> intelikey: you got any ideas to my prob?
[02:28] <intelikey> johey you got a botched upgrade ?
[02:28] <intelikey> cox377 no sorry.  i'm network illiterate
[02:28] <cox377> lol
[02:28] <cox377> koolio
[02:30] <johey> intelikey: Well. I think I have made some very nasty things to my system. You know, I happened to install Dapper but I believed it was Edgy. Then I tried to upgrade it to Feisty, but it failed. Then I added quite some third party apt sources, dist-upgraded, removed, tweaked, added, dist-upgraded and so on... And now I really can't believe how I still can have a working system. :p
[02:31] <intelikey> cox377 but seeing that smb is not kde specific you could ask in #ubuntu
[02:32] <cox377> intelikey: good suggestion
[02:32] <cox377> cheers
[02:32] <intelikey> johey yes sir, yes sir, three bags full.
[02:32] <johey> intelikey: However, now I believe I have made some things right anyway. It looks like the dependency problems are gone. :)
[02:33] <johey> Brb, hopefully.
[02:33] <mrigns__> !ping
[02:33] <ubotu> pong
[02:34] <stamen> hi again
[02:35] <stamen> beryl gives me this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14377/
[02:35] <stamen> how to fix it
[02:36] <bxnp> stamen: where did you get that script that gives you this info
[02:36] <stamen> in konsole
[02:36] <intelikey> what does   /etc/papersize  say ?
[02:36] <stamen> what to write in console to see
[02:37] <intelikey> stamen sorry that wasn't for you
[02:37] <stamen> aa ok
[02:38] <stamen> bxnp: so, what to do
[02:40] <intelikey> !beryl
[02:40] <tarragon> How do I set up a Kubuntu for broadcasting Ad-hoc on wireless?
[02:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:40] <wsjunior> Riddell: are u there? i'm looking for more info about this -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/27954. could u help me? i'm experiencing this issue in kubuntu feisty fawn and edgy..
[02:47] <hanelt> hallo
[02:49] <Erunno> Hi, where do I get help to get running compiz on Kubuntu feisty ?
[02:50] <Erunno> Err, last sentence was kind of messup up but I hope you get the meaning ;-)
[02:50] <binks> Erunno: why compiz beryl i s tops on kubuntu fiesty
[02:50] <volton_> www.ubuntuguide.org
[02:51] <Erunno> Since beryl is being merged back into compiz and compiz is officially supported by Canonical I thought I might give that one a try
[02:51] <binks> yep but at the mo beryl works out the box on fiesty k*
[02:52] <Erunno> binks: Even in Kubuntu ?
[02:52] <binks> yes it rocks
[02:52] <volton_> isnt compiz included in feisty? you can activate it under system/settings/desktop-effects
[02:53] <binks> sudo aptitude install beryl and then run beryl-manager to start it
[02:53] <Erunno> volton_: I thought that's Ubuntu. Don't think composite will be supported at all in Kubuntu Edgy (at least in an one-click way)
[02:54] <hohaa> hello
[02:54] <hohaa> ls
[02:54] <hohaa> clear
[02:56] <binks> Erunno: correct thats in ubuntu not kubuntu
[02:56] <hohaa> 
[02:57] <hohaa> why kubuntu 7.04could not suspend/?
[02:59] <Erunno> Hm, seems that Beryl won't run with ATI's fglrx drivers :-/
[03:02] <Erunno> Can somebody give me a positive that beryl isn't running with ATI binary drivers ?
[03:03] <hohaa> yes i can
[03:03] <Ubuntulator> hey ppl
[03:03] <hohaa> you should down the ati driver
[03:04] <Ubuntulator> how can i add an app to startup in kde ?
[03:05] <Mena> Why my swap part don't work ??!!
[03:05] <Erunno> Ubuntulator: Just add a link to ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:05] <Mena> i have added a new Ram
[03:05] <Mena> and when i loged in ....
[03:06] <Mena> So
[03:06] <hohaa_> how can i add an app to startup in kde ? click right botton
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Mena: new ram doesnt get added to swap
[03:06] <Hobbsee> Mena: swap is the physical file.
[03:07] <Mena> Hobbsee, How o add it refromate swap
[03:07] <Mena> Hobbsee, ok
[03:07] <Mena> To*
[03:07] <Hobbsee> it'll be added to the ram, not to the swap
[03:07] <Hobbsee> see the total with free
[03:07] <Mena> ohhh ok
[03:08] <Hobbsee> swap only gets used if the ram is all filled up.  and ram is faster
[03:08] <Mena> Hobbsee, ok
[03:08] <Mena> Hobbsee, :)
[03:09] <tarragon> How big should swap be? I was always told twice physical ram, but as physical ram gets huge is this still correct or is it a waste of disk space?
[03:10] <hohaa_> How big should swap be? I was always told twice physical ram, but as physical ram gets huge is this still correct or is it a waste of disk space?yes
[03:10] <Mena> tarragon, Good point
[03:11] <Mena> !bot >Mena
[03:13] <Mena> !swap |tarragon
[03:13] <ubotu> tarragon: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[03:13] <Erunno> tarragon: The size of the physical ram should be sufficient. You'll need at least that amount to hibernate
[03:13] <Mena> i just went there and get the idea more :)
[03:15] <don_jr> I'm trying to install wine.  I get an odd error that I'm not sure how to resolve when I try to install.  http://pastebin.ca/428278   Any suggestions on how to resolve this?
[03:15] <Ash-Fox> I'm going to run a bunch of virtualized servers... What software do you recommend (that you've used) for doing such? I'm considering vmware-server right now.
[03:16] <ronaldo_> bom dia
[03:16] <Ash-Fox> don_jr, try 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' first.
[03:16] <ronaldo_> alguem que fala portugues
[03:16] <tarragon> I was thinking more of servers where I can have say 48G physical ram on a sun box.
[03:17] <don_jr> Ash-Fox alrighty, havn't tried that yet, thank you
[03:17] <don_jr> Ash-Fox that did nothing...lo
[03:18] <Ash-Fox> don_jr, are you using winehq's wine repositories?
[03:18] <schwarzh> Moin zusammen
[03:19] <Horst> test
[03:19] <Horst> geht
[03:19] <Ash-Fox> Test failed.
[03:20] <don_jr> Ash_Fox yes I am, when I use aptitude it tries to tell me to download the one from the ubuntu repo, even if I try that one i still get errors
[03:21] <Ash-Fox> don_jr, you have backports enabled?
[03:21] <don_jr> Ash-Fox I'm not sure what that means, so I don't know
[03:21] <maxesghost> !swap |maxesghost
[03:22] <Ash-Fox> don_jr, they're a set of repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list, they're known to sometimes cause problems
[03:25] <don_jr> Ash-Fox I can put my list in pastebin if you'd like, but someone gave me thier list last night that they use and say works.  They didn't know how to help me after that.
[03:26] <Ash-Fox> don_jr, got to go, must install a server now. BBL.
[03:26] <matrix> hi afaik gnome now has an menu option to activate 3d effects for the desktop. where do i find this in kubuntu?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> matrix: install compiz-kde or gnome-kde
[03:28] <Hobbsee> er, sorry, beryl-kde
[03:28] <Pupeno2> Does anybody know how to manually run the update manager to go from Edgy to Feisty?
[03:30] <samandbeth> How come every time I download a binary it downloads into Kate? It corrupts the file every time.
[03:31] <Pupeno2> samandbeth: right click->save as.
[03:31] <Pupeno2> samandbeth: otherwise, see how that binary file is being detected (as which mime type) and correct the mime-type to not use kate.
[03:31] <samandbeth> thats an odd way to do it. thanks
[03:32] <samandbeth> ahh
[03:32] <volton_> "apt-get dist-upgrade" should do it, never tried it myself tho
[03:32] <don_jr> I'm trying to get wine installed and keep getting a dependency error: http://pastebin.ca/428278  Anyone have any suggestions?
[03:32] <Pupeno2> volton_: is that to me?
[03:33] <don_jr> what's the command to check my ip?
[03:33] <Pupeno2> don_jr: ifconfig
[03:33] <don_jr> thanks
[03:34] <matrix> Hobbsee: i can't find a package kde-beryl
[03:34] <Pupeno2> don_jr: or, ip addr
[03:34] <Hobbsee> matrix: beryl-kde.  not kde-beryl
[03:34] <don_jr> Pupeno2 the ifconfig got it done, thank you
[03:34] <Pupeno2> don_jr: yes, but I find ip to be nicer.
[03:35] <don_jr> pupeno2 Yeah, shows all your network devices with the ip addr.  I'll remember that
[03:36] <Pupeno2> don_jr: it is also nicer for IPv6, and 'ip link' shows other useful information.
[03:36] <matrix> Hobbsee: when i do apt-cache search kde beryl i get three hits. the only interesting seems to belibberylsettings0-kconfig - Settings library for plugins - Beryl Project
[03:36] <don_jr> Pupeno2 I'm not sure what ipv6 is, I'm rather new to linux as a whole and thus kubuntu aswell.
[03:36] <Hobbsee> matrix: darn.  that used to exist
[03:37] <don_jr> is the only diff between ubuntu and kubuntu the KDE interface?
[03:37] <icecruncher> could anyone please tell me how to install kubuntu from the konsole using a live cd?
[03:37] <Hobbsee> matrix: install beryl, aquamarine, etc
[03:37] <Hobbsee> icecruncher: dont think you can.
[03:37] <icecruncher> Hobbsee: really? the graphical one always crashes
[03:37] <Hobbsee> icecruncher: use the alternate cd
[03:37] <Hobbsee> icecruncher: the live cd doesnt have the alternate installer due to space
[03:38] <Pupeno2> don_jr: IPv6 is no-linux thing. IPv6 is the next generation of IP. The current version is 4, that is 127.0.0.1 is an IP of IPv4. IPv6 is a newer and much better protocol. It solves many problems of the poor and aged IPv4. ::1 is the same ip for IPv6.
[03:38] <icecruncher> Hobbsee: ahh
[03:38] <Pupeno2> don_jr: yes (re ubuntu vs kubuntu).
[03:38] <Pupeno2> don_jr: obviously, with that, all the config and managament tools are different.
[03:38] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: place cd in drive, reboot, wait - when screen comes up click on the folder or icon labeled "install"
[03:38] <shinobi> is there any reason to use a live cd not a alternate cd for a standard install?
[03:39] <don_jr> Pupeno2 Okay, I'm on a laptop here running kubuntu, I'm installing with the alternate install cd on my desktop right now
[03:39] <don_jr> after I get KDE put onto it, how can I remove all the gnome stuff?
[03:39] <matrix> Hobbsee: perhaps you mean beryl-kubuntu?
[03:39] <Hobbsee> matrix: ahh.  that's it
[03:39] <Pupeno2> don_jr: oh, that's tricky, but doable.
[03:39] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: then what?
[03:39] <Hobbsee> don_jr: remove libgtk2.0-0
[03:40] <don_jr> Pupeno2 I may not worry about it, just thought it would help clear up some empty space to get it out.
[03:40] <volton_> OMG.. I'm running Ubuntu in VMWare and it's so incredibly slow
[03:40] <Pupeno2> don_jr: if I understand you correctly, you are running Ubuntu, installed kubuntu-desktop, and want to get rid of the old Gnome stuff?
[03:40] <don_jr> Pupeno2 that is correct
[03:40] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: that on a live cd?
[03:41] <Pupeno2> don_jr: it may be explained in the Kubuntu wiki, otherwise, if you can wait some time, let me write a short tutorial to do it.
[03:41] <don_jr> Pupeno2 I appriciate the willingness to help out.  I have all the time in the world so do as you wish with it.  no hurry just trying to clear up some used space from the lap tops lil HD
[03:42] <shinobi> there is a good instruction on how to remove any of the xcfe/kde/gnome you don't need
[03:43] <don_jr> ok i'll look around for it
[03:43] <don_jr> thanks
[03:45] <samandbeth> I'm trying to download a superkaramba theme. I managed to keep Kate from opening it, now Konqueror opens it as a text file. It's a .skz which is set to be opened by superkaramba. any ideas?
[03:46] <samandbeth> that is, Konqueror has .skz associated with superkaramba
[03:46] <shinobi> use kget
[03:47] <matrix> Hobbsee: now i have an kde version of the beryl manager. where do i activate it?
[03:47] <Hobbsee> run beryl && aquamarine in konsole
[03:47] <matrix> Hobbsee: no menu entry as in gnome yet?
[03:48] <Mena> WHat is the repo for opera in fiesty
[03:48] <Hobbsee> !opera | Mena
[03:48] <ubotu> Mena: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:48] <icecruncher> anybody know when feisty beta c came out?
[03:48] <Hobbsee> matrix: apparently not.
[03:48] <Mena> Ok :)
[03:48] <Hobbsee> icecruncher: RC?  next week, sometime
[03:49] <Mena> There is no repo for operan and i also try to install opera from The official site i got opera crached every time i open it
[03:49] <matrix> Hobbsee: okay now i have lost my window decorator
[03:49] <Mena> for Fiesty*
[03:50] <icecruncher> Hobbsee: I tried installing kubutu from a live cd but as soon as I assigned direcories to the partitions, it froze up, any suggestions?
[03:51] <johey> In the Edgy and Feisty version of gtk qt engine thingy, there is a minor glitch that I don't remember from Dapper. When using vertical scroll bar in GTK programs, the leftmost black border (1 pixel width) remains in its original position until the mouse button is released and the mouse pointer is moved over the scrollbar. It has been like this for a long while. Why? Can I do something about it?
[03:52] <Hobbsee> icecruncher: no.
[03:52] <icecruncher> k
[03:52] <Mena> , i tried befor to install ubuntu and i installed it as i guees or remeber
[03:52] <Mena> and when i try next time it was slow
[03:53] <Mena> but i mount the swap part and it was a bit fatser and enables me to install it
[03:53] <Mena> enabled*
[03:54] <Mena> So maybe mountting the swap part would help a bit as i guess to make the load on Ram light
[03:54] <LordOfHeat> how to properly add msn contacts in kopete??
[03:55] <Mena> Thanks.....Thanks for help ...With GOD Bless ..
[03:55] <Mena> Bye
[03:55] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: after you click the install folder it pretty much runs itself.  you just aswer a few questions.  NOTE - it assumes you have a DHCP networked environment. (BAD boys!)
[03:55] <icecruncher> lol
[03:56] <cox377> LordOfHeat: what do u mean?
[03:56] <don_jr> bronze_1_9 how well does the manual config work out for the DHCP while installing ubuntu?  I had to manually do it, should it be connected to the router or will I probably ahve to do more once the install is done?
[03:56] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: It's not that I cannot run the installer, but I cannot configure my partitioning.
[03:57] <LordOfHeat> cod377, well, I add a contact, and I see him as offline
[03:57] <cox377> LordOfHeat: very odd
[03:58] <N6REJ> good easter weekend morning all
[03:58] <icecruncher> monkey!!!
[03:58] <icecruncher> yeah, you too
[03:58] <cox377> LordOfHeat: have they accepted you?
[03:58] <johey> After upgrading to Fiesty, digiKam is no longer translated to Swedish (default language in kcontrol). Why?
[03:58] <cox377> the contact you are trying to add?
[03:59] <LordOfHeat> cox377, no auhorisation request on his side
[04:00] <aaroncampbell> what package gives me mod_rewrite for apache?
[04:00] <crube> Is there a firefox plugin that could be used to watch video files inside the browser instead of downloading and opening them in the default video player?
[04:00] <aaroncampbell> actually, apache2
[04:00] <cox377> LordOfHeat: might have to google it because there is not settings of such that i can see
[04:00] <cox377> crube: mplayer
[04:01] <N6REJ> anyone have any idea why the audio for a webcam would work but the video device isn't found by camorama?
[04:01] <crube> That would propably be the "mozilla-mplayer" package
[04:02] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: what happens when you let it use the entire disk?
[04:02] <aabrahao>  when kde is start how stop without login?
[04:02] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: right now, the whole thing just crahed
[04:02] <icecruncher> *crashed
[04:03] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: did you choose the default partitioning scheme?
[04:03] <don_jr> Anyone able to help me figure out my wine install problem.  when I try to install I get this funky error:http://pastebin.ca/428278   Any suggestions?
[04:03] <bronze_1_9> don_jr: there is no manual DHCP for feisty, AFAIK
[04:03] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: the thing is I don't want it to use the entire disk, yeah
[04:04] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: what did you do?
[04:04] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: nothing
[04:04] <icecruncher> lol
[04:04] <don_jr> bronze_1_9 I'm installing from the dapper alternate install cd, and it has it, cause I had to manually put in my ip and what not.  Just not usre if there's going to be more that will have to be done to get online once it's installed fully
[04:04] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: what choices did you make for partitioning?
[04:04] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: default
[04:04] <icecruncher> (entire disk)
[04:05] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher:  and it crashed?
[04:05] <don_jr> Adept = Synoptic in functionality?
[04:05] <bronze_1_9> don_jr: you may have to enter IP addresses for your DNS servers
[04:05] <arachnist> huh, new kubuntu looks by default almoast like gentoo.org |> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5309/kubuntuyg2.png
[04:06] <icecruncher> arachnist: it's the new KDE
[04:06] <don_jr> bronze_1_9 dns servers?  how would I figure out what that is to add it?
[04:06] <Arwen> don_jr, from your ISP
[04:06] <icecruncher> arachnist: 3.65
[04:06] <arachnist> icecruncher: i doubt that kde by default is so violete/blue
[04:06] <bronze_1_9> don_jr:  what are you on the internet with right now? (machine and OS)
[04:06] <aabrahao>  when kde is start how stop without login?
[04:07] <bronze_1_9> aabrahao: %rephrase  Please rephrase the question or clarify the scope|requirements of what you want
[04:07] <don_jr> Arwen on this laptop I'm connected to my router. Running Ubuntu Dapper, not sure the exact version tell me how to get it and I'll give it to you.  I"m installing Ubuntu Dapper via alternate install cd on my desktop now.
[04:07] <icecruncher> arachnist: dunno
[04:07] <bronze_1_9> don_jr: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[04:07] <don_jr> bronze_1_9 ok
[04:07] <Arwen> don_jr, if you're behind a router, your DNS will probably be your router's IP
[04:08] <bronze_1_9> see the lines like >> nameserver 68.87.73.242
[04:08] <bronze_1_9> those are the IP's of your dns server
[04:08] <don_jr> Arwen bronze_1_9 Alrighty, probably the routers 'gateway.2wire.net' then?
[04:08] <aabrahao> ok, I installed kde in ubuntu 6.10 and vmware tools, the resolution appears fine, but when I log a black screen appears and come back to the login in kde. Any Idea?
[04:09] <bronze_1_9> don_jr: have no idea, cannot see your network from here, and I've never used an appliance style router
[04:09] <Arwen> don_jr, dunno
[04:09] <icecruncher> what is that nayway, app style router?
[04:09] <Arwen> don_jr, but your dns server has to be in the format of w.x.y.z
[04:09] <don_jr> Arwen bronze_1_9 probably that or the default gateway 192.168.1.1
[04:10] <Arwen> don_jr, try 192.168.1.1
[04:10] <bronze_1_9> ja
[04:10] <bronze_1_9> good bet
[04:11] <Arwen> my DNS server is my router too :-\
[04:11] <Arwen> too bad it just forwards requests to my ISP, it'd be nice to have a real DNS server
[04:11] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: earlier you said, hiot the install folder, where you talking about the live or alternate cd
[04:11] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: live
[04:11] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: cause  it' isn't working
[04:12] <icecruncher> lol
[04:12] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: you can have a local caching only DNS server.  It would be much faster than having your ISP do look ups.
[04:12] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: no install folder?
[04:12] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: of course, nothing happens
[04:12] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: errm - which kubuntu are you installing? feisty, edge, or dapper
[04:12] <icecruncher> dapper, then will upgrade
[04:13] <bronze_1_9> so you boot with the live cd, and get no screen?
[04:13] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, mm, I want a real DNS server to resolve LAN hostnames....
[04:13] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: me?
[04:13] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: yes
[04:13] <Arwen> too bad good routers either use lots of power (real computer) or are expensive (yeah...)
[04:13] <Pupeno> don_jr: did you find anything useful regarding removing Gnome?
[04:13] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: your local DNS server will look in the /etc/hosts file first, so it can do that for you.
[04:13] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: no no everything works, but not install
[04:14] <don_jr> Pupeno Yeah we're doin alright, thank you
[04:14] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, meh
[04:14] <bronze_1_9> icecruncher: perhaps the dapper live cd does not have an install capability.  You may have to use the install cd.
[04:14] <Arwen> but what I really want is a router that sends un-allowed MAC addresses to goatse
[04:14] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, ^^
[04:15] <icecruncher> bronze_1_9: wait, i tried again, just poped up, but i think it'l crash again
[04:15] <matrix> how can i deactivate beryl again. looks like it is now started each time i log into kde. but without windowdecorater it's no fun
[04:16] <Arwen> matrix, um, do you have nvidia? you have to set default depth to 24 if you have nvidia
[04:16] <Arwen> that should get your window decorations back
[04:16] <matrix> Arwen: where to do so?
[04:16] <Arwen> /etc/xorg.conf - I think it's either the display or the device section
[04:16] <Arwen> there should be a line that says default depth <number> or something
[04:17] <matrix> Arwen: defaultdepth is 24
[04:17] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: If you use a Linux based firewall/router you can do that quite easily
[04:18] <Arwen> matrix, huh, guess beryl ain't for you then - go to ~/.kde/autostart (I think) and delete all mention of beryl
[04:18] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, yeah, but having a linux box running 24/7 isn't cheap on the power
[04:18] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: who said dasktop? :-)
[04:19] <bronze_1_9> *desktop :)
[04:19] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, um...
[04:19] <Arwen> I don't have any servers or thin clients either
[04:19] <Arwen> and my router has 2MB of flash memory, so I don't think a firmware update is possible
[04:19] <matrix> Arwen: ~/.kde/autostart is empty
[04:20] <Arwen> matrix, huh.... do you remember the instructions you used to install beryl?
[04:20] <bronze_1_9> I'm using an old laptop. I actually tested its juice use with a kill-a-watt unit, in full "power concerve mode it runs less than one fifteenth what a desktop uses
[04:20] <bronze_1_9> The nice thing is - it has a built in UPS... :)
[04:20] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, but if you turn a laptop into a server you can't carry it around...
[04:21] <matrix> Arwen: apt-get
[04:21] <Arwen> matrix, um, try apt-get remove beryl ?
[04:21] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: right.  this is an old discard that I got for free from a local school.
[04:21] <Arwen> beryl shouldn't be autostarting, but that'll definitely prevent it from loading :-)
[04:21] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, yeah, my only spare box is an ancient P2 box - no NIC
[04:21] <bronze_1_9> I use a PDA for "mobile computing"
[04:22] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: Get the to Ebay... or - start jonesing people in your area for old lappy's
[04:22] <matrix> Arwen: before i installed kubuntu-beryl which i already removed i could manualy activate beryl. now looks like i don't get rid of it.
[04:22] <don_jr> Ubuntu starting for the first time on my desktop.  now to see if it loaded everything correctly and get me back online
[04:22] <bronze_1_9> Its amazing how very little it takes to run something like the ipcop or smoothwall distro's
[04:23] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, yeah, but again - NIC.... no sense running a router with a crappy NIC
[04:23] <Jisao> I'm fed up of looking.  Where can I download an alternate cd image of Feisty?
[04:23] <Powerking89670> hey could someone help me, im having resolution problems
[04:23] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: hehe - there's no way your internet feed is going to saturate a 100Mb NIC.
[04:23] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, but local services?
[04:23] <Powerking89670> I just booted up Kubuntu and instead of my nice big resolution, im stuck at 800x600
[04:24] <Arwen> note - streaming 1280x720 video is not easy on the bandwidth
[04:24] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: I run my entire LAn (7 boxes) thru that laptop, - including video over the internet
[04:24] <don_jr> After ubuntu runs through it's start up, loading the kernel and all of that, it goes to a black screen with a cursor in the top left corner that isn't blinking or moving.
[04:24] <dell190> good morning everyone
[04:24] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, again, I'm not concerned about my Internet access, that tops 1.5M max
[04:25] <Arwen> it's just that I use my LAN to shuttle large files
[04:25] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: it has one integrated NIC (on the MB) and one pcmcia Nic card.  Internally I use a dlink 8 port hub and a linksys 5 port hub to connect all the machine together to connect
[04:25] <bronze_1_9> so I'm 100 MB wall to wall.
[04:26] <bronze_1_9> when it comes to house equipment I'm Petey McCheapo!
[04:26] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, bah, you should wire your house with Fiber...
[04:27] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: I shall never open a wall to run cable again.  MiMo Wifi is the next step.
[04:27] <bronze_1_9> (802.11n)
[04:27] <Arwen> bah, I'd never touch that Wi-fi junk, insecure, unreliable, and slow
[04:28] <bronze_1_9> If building a new house I would put fiber in. But i've found its just not worth it to try to retro fit fiber in houses.  I'm too much of a perfectionist.
[04:31] <don_jr> Okay, I can get my fresh install of dapper to boot up in terminal mode/recovery mode.  but when I try to run X it locks up on a black screen with no movement.  I'm running an nvidiaMX 4000 how can I get the proper drivers from terminal?
[04:33] <don_jr> I guess I need to get it online first.  ping brings back 'host unknown'  where can I go from here?
[04:36] <bronze_1_9> don_jr: you need to edit your network properties, put in dns server addresses and local IP addeesses etc.. IIRC.
[04:36] <bronze_1_9> don_jr: I'm sorry i have to run right now. BBL.
[04:36] <don_jr> Okay, where do I find the properties to edit?
[04:37] <bronze_1_9> Can some one with good networking here help don_jr  Please?
[04:37] <bronze_1_9> Arwen?
[04:37] <Arwen> bronze_1_9, hmm? I was afk
[04:37] <bronze_1_9> bronze_1_9> Can some one with good networking here help don_jr  Please?
[04:37] <don_jr> Someone in #ubuntu is helping too.  between us all I'll get this running! lol
[04:37] <bronze_1_9> Arwen: ^^^^^^^
[04:38] <bronze_1_9> I have to go.
[04:38] <bronze_1_9> bacl later
[04:38] <Arwen> don_jr, ok, do you have a GUI? or are you trying to fix stuff from a console?
[04:38] <don_jr> I'm in console only, have to get online so I can install the proper invidia drivers to get X to work
[04:39] <Arwen> don_jr, ah, do this "nano -w /etc/resolv.conf"
[04:40] <don_jr> all it says there is 'nameserver 192.168.1.1
[04:40] <Arwen> huh, darn it....
[04:40] <Arwen> don_jr, run ifconfig and pastebin the output
[04:40] <Arwen> let's see if there's other errors
[04:41] <don_jr> Okay, give me time cause I'll have to type it in manually here on the laptop
[04:41] <hyper_ch> hiho, how can one alter the kernel options?
[04:41] <Arwen> hyper_ch, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:42] <hyper_ch> Arwen: hmmm, I guess that was not meant in that howto guide... I'm trying to install dm-crypt / luks (a debian guide) and in the beginning it says one need to make sure to set some kernel options
[04:42] <stdin> hyper_ch: in /boot/grub/menu.lst, or you can do it at boot by pressing "e" (for edit) on the menu item and "e" again on the kernel option, edit it, then press "b" to boot
[04:43] <hyper_ch> stdin: have a look here (step 2) - http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-disk-encryption-with-dm-crypt-luks-and-debian - I have no clue how to make that... and I guess I have to make it because Step 6 fails :(
[04:43] <dell190> What is the command to mount a Windows Partition.. i forget :(
[04:44] <kumamoto> dell190: from console or GUI?
[04:44] <stdin> hyper_ch: ahh, that's refering to the options used to compile the kernel
[04:44] <dell190> Console \
[04:44] <Arwen> dell190, mount -t ntfs /dev/<device> /mnt/<emptydir>
[04:45] <hyper_ch> stdin: that means I would have to compile my own kernel?
[04:45] <Arwen> hyper_ch, um..... maybe?
[04:45] <stdin> hyper_ch: if one or more of those options aren't already enabled, yes
[04:45] <dell190> Thanks
[04:45] <hyper_ch> stdin: how do I check if thoe are enabled?
[04:46] <stdin> hyper_ch: it can be difficult if you don't know where to look, all the options are in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[04:47] <don_jr> Arwen sorry for the time taken.  here is what ifconfig shows: http://pastebin.ca/428359
[04:47] <Betzefer> any 1 needs help ?
[04:47] <Arwen> don_jr, ok, looking
[04:47] <hyper_ch> stdin: thx
[04:48] <stdin> hyper_ch: try asking in #ubuntu-kernel they should know
[04:48] <hyper_ch> stdin: thx :)
[04:48] <Arwen> don_jr, hmm, can you try this "ping -c4 72.14.207.99" ?
[04:48] <Arwen> don_jr, if you get ping replies, than your actual connection works, it's just your dns that's broken
[04:48] <Arwen> if not, then we have more problems
[04:49] <don_jr> Arwen got errors, none of it went through, Host Unreachable....  Let me try a different port on the router maybe??
[04:50] <Arwen> don_jr, no, that means your net connection isn't working
[04:50] <Arwen> btw, you were pinging google back then
[04:50] <don_jr> Arwen okay, what do I check now?  The network card and cable i'm using now worked with winxp so they should be good...
[04:51] <Arwen> don_jr, can you still get into Windows?
[04:51] <don_jr> nope, cleaned it off
[04:51] <kumamoto> Arwen: not sure if this has been asked but he behind a NAT
[04:52] <Arwen> kumamoto, yes, he is
[04:52] <kumamoto> nice
[04:52] <don_jr> wow I can't even ping my router....that's a problem
[04:52] <kumamoto> can u ping your gw
[04:53] <don_jr> what's a gw?
[04:53] <kumamoto> gateway
[04:53] <Arwen> don_jr, your default gateway
[04:53] <Arwen> you can't ping your router?
[04:53] <don_jr> OMG I'm a dope, I put in ping with no peramiters...how do I stop it? it's on 79....lol
[04:54] <kumamoto> Ctrl +C
[04:54] <Arwen> don_jr, ctrl +c
[04:54] <LjL> don_jr: ctrl+c
[04:54] <LjL> (which, incidently, is how you stop *any* well behaved program)
[04:54] <don_jr> thanks
[04:54] <Arwen> don_jr, pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[04:54] <don_jr> It won't ping my router/default gateway no.  Arwen alright, again, give time, doing this manually
[04:56] <kurt> is there a gui way to set the refresh rate/resolution for the login screen? i am using standard kubuntu login
[04:56] <kumamoto> I don't think so I think it is either a file to be edited or some xorg directive
[04:57] <kumamoto> unless there is another way
[04:59] <don_jr> Arwen here ya go: http://pastebin.ca/428371
[05:00] <Arwen> don_jr, hmm, darn it, it loooks like it woks
[05:00] <Arwen> I can't see any errors in it
[05:00] <kumamoto> don_jr: is your router actually 192.168.1.1
[05:00] <Arwen> don_jr, oh yeah ^^ - might it be 192.168.1.0 ?
[05:00] <don_jr> kumamoto it uses a name when I check it here
[05:01] <Arwen> don_jr, pick up your router and look at the labels on it - it should have its ip printed on the back or something
[05:02] <kumamoto> make sure the nic that is connected pc through a switch or directly is actually 192.168.1.1
[05:02] <don_jr> Arwen I'll double check but I"m sure that that's it.
[05:02] <kumamoto> i man the router's nic
[05:03] <johey> How can I get Swedish translations for digiKam in Feisty? They were there in Edgy, but now they're gone.
[05:03] <don_jr> kumamoto the routers nic??
[05:03] <kumamoto> yeah u know router -> switch -> pc
[05:04] <kumamoto> don't mean to cause any confusion
[05:04] <don_jr> kumamoto it's directly connected via cat5 to the router it's self
[05:04] <Betzefer> why when i try to update my synaptic it unistalls it
[05:05] <kumamoto> so is the cable cross connected or straight
[05:05] <don_jr> when I type route -n I get a destination of 192.168.1.0   is this correct? or should it be all 0's?
[05:05] <kumamoto> ah
[05:05] <kumamoto> actually it is right
[05:08] <Betzefer> its correct
[05:08] <abrahao> how can I see the disk space?
[05:08] <kumamoto> abrahao: console or gui
[05:08] <don_jr> So everything on my box is right it's just not reaching the router....bad cable?
 console
[05:09] <kumamoto> df -h
[05:09] <kurt> thanks, i deleted all but my prefered resolution and refresh from xorg.conf, and that seems to have worked.
[05:09] <kumamoto> kurt: nice I guess my hunch worked
 just to know if was gui?
[05:11] <kumamoto> abrahao: you probably use system utils
 thanks
[05:12] <abrahao> now I in front of kde to login, when I log a blank screen appears and go bakc to login, any tip?
[05:13] <chuck> Hi, i've got a little problem with feisty
[05:13] <chuck> whenever i click log off, it just goes to a black screen and stays there
[05:15] <kumamoto> abrahao: no error message?
 no
[05:15] <chuck> anyone know what's wrong?
 just a blank screen and back to login
[05:16] <don_jr> reep going to get another cable to try it
[05:18] <kumamoto> abrahao: can't tell of head unless I see the error if you can login remotely then look at the logs and pastebin it maybe someone can be off assistance
[05:19] <kumamoto> or on the other hand someone else has encountered the same issue.
 in front kde, how Can I go to console, before login?
[05:24] <don_jr> I'm online!!  it was a bad cable.......how rediculous
[05:27] <don_jr> Now that I'm online.  How do I get the nvidia drivers from a console only?
[05:27] <Arwen> nick collision wars?
[05:28] <PhinnFort> kai: having fun?
[05:32] <cosmo_> I am trying to open the adept manager but it keeps telling me "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one." but I am not runing any other package managers, how do I fix this?
[05:33] <PhinnFort> !lockfile
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lockfile - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:33] <Originoo1> Ryiel: ps -A
[05:33] <bronze_1_9> !nvidia
[05:33] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:33] <chuck> !language
[05:33] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:33] <PhinnFort> cosmo_: there's a file that package management programs create when they run, so others don't do run at the same time
[05:35] <PhinnFort> cosmo_: if you are absolutely certain no other programs are running, delete this file: "/var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[05:35] <PhinnFort> cosmo_: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:36] <cosmo_> thanks PhinnFort
[05:36] <PhinnFort> yw
[05:37] <thompa> what is the disk mount utility in kde?
[05:38] <PhinnFort> thompa: konqueror?
[05:38] <PhinnFort> thompa: try going to "media:/"
[05:39] <thompa> PhinnFort: i know, im trying to find the utility to access partition, need to change permissions
[05:39] <thompa> kdf ithink
[05:39] <PhinnFort> thompa: ?
[05:40] <PhinnFort> kdf only shows available disk space afaik
[05:40] <PhinnFort> thompa: in the "system:/" kio slave you can see all partitions, etc.
[05:40] <PhinnFort> change permissions too
[05:40] <thompa> PhinnFort: I have an ipod, cant install podzilla , requares root access
[05:41] <PhinnFort> thompa: "kdesu aptitude install podzilla"
[05:41] <PhinnFort> thompa: and why not amarok?
[05:41] <thompa> PhinnFort: podzill is already on it, i just want to add a new module to /user on the ipod linux file system
[05:41] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[05:41] <thompa> PhinnFort: its for storage only
[05:42] <PhinnFort> thompa: run "kdesu konqueror media:/"
[05:42] <thompa> PhinnFort: thanks, ill try it
[05:44] <thompa> PhinnFort: hey that worked
[05:44] <don_jr> Okay #ubuntu is getting spammed....
[05:44] <thompa> PhinnFort: do i have to add to fstab to make it permanent?
[05:45] <chuck> ok this is kinda annoying lol
[05:45] <thompa> PhinnFort: what is the equivalent to this kdesu if i were to use gnome?
[05:46] <chuck> can someone ban kai or something? lol
[05:46] <PF-Away> thompa: gdksu or something
[05:46] <jhutchins> !kdesu
[05:46] <PF-Away> thompa: i resent, gnome, sorry
[05:46] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[05:47] <thompa> PF-Away: i guess with kdesu i can change the permissions so me.user has access
[05:47] <PF-Away> thompa: yes
[05:47] <don_jr> Wow, I have added the nvidia repo to my list here and got the key, no how do I download the drivers I need to get X running?
[05:47] <PF-Away> thompa: but now i need to go and eat
[05:47] <chuck> go away kai
[05:48] <sonoftheclayr> chuck lol
[05:48] <thompa> PF-Away: it works im running konq. from gnome btw. thanks
[05:48] <PF-Away> kai: please go away
[05:48] <PF-Away> !attack kai
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about attack kai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <PF-Away> thompa: oh, ok
[05:48] <PF-Away> !kick kai
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kick kai - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <jhutchins> PF-Away: There is no kai in this channel.
[05:48] <PF-Away> jhutchins: he comes and goes
[05:49] <PF-Away> there he is
[05:49] <jhutchins> So I see.
[05:49] <PF-Away> 'part-spamming?;)
[05:49] <sonoftheclayr> there he goes
[05:49] <jhutchins> Maybe he is having connection problems.
[05:49] <don_jr> just shut off the incomming outgoing messages
[05:50] <PF-Away> jhutchins: probably
[05:50] <PF-Away> jhutchins: and he's probably afk
[05:50] <cosmo_> hmmm it's still giving me the same error, wonder what I have running that is causing that
[05:50] <don_jr> alright I have installed dapper from alternate cd on my desktop(on laptop now) but I have nvidia card and I cant' get X to run so I"m on console only, how can I fix this?
[05:50] <PF-Away> don_jr: i do like to see when people i talk to disappear
[05:50] <PF-Away> !nvidia | don_jr
[05:50] <ubotu> don_jr: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:51] <don_jr> PF-Away I've read that, it assumes you can get into gnome and I can't run X
[05:51] <Bennity> try kai!*@*
[05:51] <Hobbsee> i know....
[05:51] <PF-Away> don_jr: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:51] <Bennity> Obviously.....
[05:51] <PF-Away> finally;)
[05:51] <Hobbsee> the banforwards are more complex
[05:51] <PF-Away> Hobbsee: ftw
[05:52] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr: does your X just not start at all? mine did the same thing and i just reverted to the nv dirvers, if you get the nvidia drivers to work could you please tell me :)
[05:52] <Bennity> oh, actually, that is something I don't know about
[05:52] <Hobbsee> (and arent scripted)
[05:53] <don_jr> sonoftheclayr I've had them working before, just have to get X torun
[05:53] <Hidan> that was one loonnggg list of joins and kicks... poor sod's probably not even at his computer.
[05:53] <don_jr> PF-Away I'm running the xserver-xorg reconfigure, it's asking to use kernel framebuffer device interface....yes or no?
[05:53] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr: oh, well i just get a blank screen and can't start X full stop
[05:53] <PF-Away> don_jr: just leave the default
[05:54] <don_jr> sonoftheclayr yes I have the same problem rightnow, have to get X to start to get the nvidia drivers if I remember correctly
[05:54] <don_jr> PF-Away thanks
[05:55] <don_jr> PF-Away that's done, how do I try to start X or should I restart the computer?
[05:56] <dell190> is it possible to install a tar.gz file?
[05:56] <PF-Away> don_jr: a restart would be the easiest
[05:56] <PF-Away> dell190: you need to compile it
[05:56] <dell190> how would i do that ?
[05:56] <PF-Away> dell190: you can use the program "kompile" to help you with it
[05:56] <PF-Away> !info kompile | dell190
[05:56] <ubotu> dell190: kompile: interface for compilation automation for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3~beta2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 170 kB, installed size 904 kB
[05:56] <PF-Away> !compile | dell190
[05:56] <ubotu> dell190: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:57] <don_jr> sonoftheclayr I'm restarting my computer now, havn't got the nvidia drivers yet, if X starts I'll let you know
[05:57] <terrestre> someone using 7.04b?
[05:57] <sonoftheclayr> terrestre: yep
[05:58] <PF-Away> don_jr: try the envy tool
[05:58] <PF-Away> terrestre: i use feisty, yes
[05:58] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr thnx
[05:58] <don_jr> PF-Away I may do that if I can get X to run or tell me how to do it from console if it doesn't work....we'll se, it's loading up now
[05:58] <terrestre> sorry but i dont really speak english, but i understand a littl :).. im tryng to get work some webcam
[05:58] <PF-Away> don_jr: i think it needs X
[05:59] <PF-Away> terrestre: where are you from?
[05:59] <mrigns> is it possible to mount apple's *.img image files?
[05:59] <terrestre> chile
[05:59] <terrestre> near to argentina
[05:59] <PF-Away> spanish?
[05:59] <PF-Away> !es | terrestre
[05:59] <ubotu> terrestre: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:59] <terrestre> jaja thanks
[05:59] <PF-Away> mrigns: i think so, yes
[05:59] <don_jr> okay didn't work yet, X still won't start, will have to reconfigure again I think, not sure, this time it's doing somethinginstead of hanging
[06:00] <terrestre> sorry that was my laght in spanish, jajaja, english haha
[06:00] <PF-Away> mrigns: try "sudo mount /path/to/img.file /path/to/mountpoint -o loop"
[06:00] <PF-Away> terrestre: ah, ok;)
[06:00] <sonoftheclayr> terrestre lol
[06:00] <mrigns> PF-Away: already tested it, does not work
[06:01] <PF-Away> mrigns: what does dmesg | tail say?
[06:01] <mrigns> aaaah i dont want to waste a dvdr
[06:01] <mrigns> sec
[06:01] <ubuntu_> anybody using feisty beta c yet?
[06:01] <PF-Away> i'm using feisty
[06:01] <ubuntu_> beta c?
[06:01] <PF-Away> ubuntu_: c?
[06:02] <ubuntu_> chck the header
[06:02] <mrigns> PF-Away: do you know windings font under windows?
[06:02] <yaccin> i bought a new soundcard and now i dont have sound .(
[06:02] <mrigns> it just looks the ame way
[06:02] <PF-Away> mrigns: yeah
[06:02] <PF-Away> mrigns: ...
[06:02] <PF-Away> !sound | yaccin
[06:02] <ubotu> yaccin: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:02] <terrestre> nobody talking at ubuntu channel or kubuntu-es
[06:03] <PF-Away> terrestre: wait a bit, maybe
[06:04] <mrigns> PF-Away: http://www.pastebin.ca/428453 it converted the letters though
[06:04] <mrigns> try to read it with your magical powers!
[06:04] <mrigns> MAGICAL POWERS!
[06:04] <mrigns> ^^
[06:04] <PF-Away> hehe
[06:05] <PF-Away> mrigns: i think something is severely wrong with your konsole
[06:05] <PF-Away> can you see the letters you type?
[06:05] <mrigns> of course
[06:05] <yaccin> yaccin@Hephaistos:~$ tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[06:05] <yaccin> Mixers:
[06:05] <yaccin> 0: SigmaTel STAC9721,23
[06:05] <yaccin> thats my old soundcard
[06:05] <yaccin> i disabled it in bios :(
[06:05] <mrigns> its only the output of that file
[06:05] <PF-Away> mrigns: try just dmesg
[06:06] <mrigns> eth0 etc bla bla
[06:06] <PF-Away> mrigns: what's at the bottom?
[06:06] <mrigns> [102541.255743]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[06:07] <mrigns> because of the dvd-r that in my drive
[06:07] <mrigns> its empty
[06:07] <terrestre> someone are using a wifi internet connection? the wepkey reset any timde that I reboot, its that normal, or Im did something wrong or I need to put the key into the kwallet?
[06:07] <PF-Away> mrigns: are you sure that file is valid?
[06:07] <don_jr> PF-Away I've run configure xserver-xorg twice now, still won't run X, what settings should I use since I don'thvae proper nvidia drivers?
[06:07] <PF-Away> mrigns: can you run "file [filename.img] "?
[06:07] <c0de7> Gnome rulez! :P
[06:07] <mrigns> AVCD_23271B.img: UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'AVCD_23271B
[06:07] <mrigns> it did that all before
[06:08] <PF-Away> c0de7: you suck!
[06:08] <PF-Away> ;)
[06:08] <PF-Away> mrigns: try installing AcetoneISO
[06:08] <PF-Away> mrigns: from kde-apps.org
[06:08] <mrigns> whats this?
[06:08] <PF-Away> it's similar to the windowsian Daemon-tools
[06:08] <PF-Away> it helps with mounting disk images
[06:09] <sonoftheclayr> terrestre: you run feisty yes? i have to reset everything after i reboot too, i hope it will be fixed soon
[06:09] <mrigns> so its a frotend?
[06:09] <mrigns> if yes, id dont need because i know how to mount images :D
[06:09] <PF-Away> mrigns: yeah
[06:09] <PF-Away> mrigns: you might be doing something wrong, though;)
[06:09] <sonoftheclayr> mrigns: check out this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2216823
[06:10] <terrestre> sonoftheclayr: oh, thanks, yeah its a bit annoying
[06:10] <mrigns> sonoftheclayr: lol
[06:10] <sonoftheclayr> terrestre: i just don't reboot :)
[06:11] <PF-Away> don_jr: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive xserver-xorg"
[06:11] <PF-Away> don_jr: it should configure it automatically
[06:11] <mrigns> i already said it does not work like it should, but the md5 check sum is correct
[06:11] <terrestre> sonoftheclayr: jajaja, thats because my webcam, freeze the kernel
[06:12] <don_jr> PF-Away will try that next after this reboot, trying the 3rd time! lol
[06:12] <PF-Away> don_jr: ;)
[06:12] <tristanmike> Hello, I'm trying to scan a hard drive to see if it has errors, but i'm not sure how. I'm in a LiveCD, can someone point me in the right direction ?  Thanx in advance.
[06:13] <PF-Away> tristanmike: fsck
[06:13] <mrigns> sonoftheclayr: i mean this guide has nothing to do with my problem. the filesystem isnt even ntfs but hfs
[06:13] <icecruncher> could anyone please help me write a script to ubpdae the system?
[06:13] <tristanmike> PF-Away: ok, what command do I use first to see the partitions
[06:13] <sonoftheclayr> mrigns: sorry, i just skimmed over it
[06:13] <mrigns> np
[06:13] <tristanmike> PF-Away: I have to mount it first, right ?
[06:13] <PF-Away> tristanmike: fdisk -l, i believe
[06:13] <PF-Away> tristanmike: no
[06:13] <tristanmike> ok
[06:14] <don_jr> PF-Away done with the noninteractive config, restarting now
[06:14] <tristanmike> brb, going to test, computer is downstairs....thanx
[06:14] <PF-Away> don_jr: hopefully this will work
[06:14] <PF-Away> don_jr: it won't be very optimised or anything, though;)
[06:14] <dell190> is there a easy guid to Compiling?
[06:14] <PF-Away> dell190: use "kompile"
[06:15] <dell190> i tried that... but i dont see it anywhere in the K-menu
[06:15] <don_jr> PF-Away I don't care bout that, I can get nvidia loaded right once I get gnome up
[06:15] <PF-Away> dell190: is it installed?
[06:15] <PF-Away> don_jr: you on gnome?
[06:15] <PF-Away> *shrug*
[06:16] <don_jr> PF-Away I think that's the default of dappers alternate CD it didn't give me the choice to change it.
[06:16] <icecruncher> to make a script executable do you have to start it with #!/bin/bash or without the '#'
[06:16] <Cavemaaaan> Hello...I'm at my wits-end trying to get my Edgy-Eft to display 1280x720@60Hz...all Nvidia GF 6150 drivers installed via Envy....any good ideas?
[06:16] <erz-> hi, everybody i just moved on kubuntu very nice nice nice ! network is running good, vnc is good, beryl is very amazing ! i loved that =)
[06:16] <don_jr> PF-Away and my screen is just black now....nothing showing at all....maybe I need to dissable the onboard graphics card first?
[06:16] <PF-Away> don_jr: ubuntu has gnome as default, kubuntu has kde
[06:16] <dell190> PF-Away: i used Adept and it downloaded and i am assuming it automaticly installed
[06:16] <PF-Away> don_jr: this is weird...
[06:16] <PF-Away> dell190: try hitting ALT+F2
[06:17] <PF-Away> dell190: type in "kompile" and hit enter
[06:17] <tristanmike> PF-Away: in the live cd, fdisk -l doesn't bring up partitions, and I'm trying it on a Windows disk, is there anyway I can check it. Sorry, should have given you all that info first
[06:17] <don_jr> PF-Away do I need to dissable my onboard video?  I think that's what it's reverted to
[06:17] <terrestre> erz-: i want to put beryl too, yestaday i was using ubuntu
[06:17] <PF-Away> don_jr: maybe
[06:17] <PF-Away> don_jr: i think it's a bios thing
[06:17] <icecruncher> what is the alternetive for gksudo in kubuntu???
[06:17] <Hobbsee> !kdesu
[06:17] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[06:17] <PF-Away> !kdesu | icecruncher
[06:17] <ubotu> icecruncher: please see above
[06:18] <erz-> terrestre: its very simple just follow step by step kubuntu guide on beryl .... =)
[06:18] <dell190> PF-Away: it gives me an error message
[06:18] <icecruncher> thanks
[06:18] <don_jr> PF-Away I've gotit dissabled in the bios....crud I've had it running on this machine before, exactly as it is now, just don't remember exactly how I did it
[06:18] <terrestre> erz-: are you using emerald o aquamarine?
[06:18] <PF-Away> dell190: what?
[06:18] <erz-> just have a question about amarok and crash with taglib & network drive
[06:18] <erz-> terrestre: emerald
[06:18] <terrestre> erz-:  do you are using? jaja sorry for my english
[06:18] <erz-> terrestre:  i m french too =)))))
[06:19] <terrestre> erz-: im latinamerican
[06:19] <terrestre> ;)
[06:19] <tristanmike> PF-Away: in the live cd, fdisk -l doesn't bring up partitions, and I'm trying it on a Windows disk, is there anyway I can check it. Sorry, should have given you all that info first
[06:19] <erz-> terrestre: shit terrestre is a french work to say sth is on the earth
[06:20] <dell190> PF-Away: You have forgot to specify a valid sources tarball or specified file isn't a valid sources tarball!
[06:20] <terrestre> erz-: in spanish mean the same thing :)
[06:21] <Cavemaaaan> anyone veeery good at monitor detection problems?
[06:21] <erz-> terrestre: so lets go install it its very easy and really amazing =)
[06:21] <terrestre> erz-: the last time that I use kubuntu aquamarine had a more kde-like
[06:21] <cosmo_> I am trying to run the adept package manager but it keeps giving me a message of "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one" I have tried running sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock but it still gives me the error, I restarted the machine and I havn't started any other package managers that I know of
[06:22] <terrestre> erz-: yeah, i have in ubuntu edgy, but im tryng to resolve some problems first, the webcam freeze the kernel and the printer put the document out of center
[06:22] <erz-> terrestre: whats do you want to say =) its the first time i use kubuntu ... before was on command line debian for server
[06:23] <compilerwriter1> Anyone know how to get a Toshiba Satellite's internal wirless device to work with edgy?
[06:23] <compilerwriter1> s/wirless/wireless
[06:23] <erz-> terrestre: doesnt have those kind of problem just busy with amarok collection crash when import collection from a network drive
[06:24] <icecruncher> I'm trying to update my sytem with a self-made script.. how can i tell aptitude in the script to accept every question it throws at me??
[06:25] <terrestre> erz-: maybe my info its a little old, like 2 month old, but emerald is the window decorator and have a lot of "style" but more gnome type, and the aquamarine people its tryng to do a more kde style, decoration
[06:26] <icecruncher> anyone?
[06:26] <johey> How do I configure the language of digiKam? Before I updated my system, it adapted the global regionality settings, but now it runs in English no matter what. I'm using digiKam 0.8.2 with Kubuntu Fiesty and KDE 3.5.5.
[06:27] <erz-> terrestre: ok... but defenitly i dont care of "style" i loved that cube and how is it workable
[06:27] <terrestre> erz-: you know what? im a lit scare of install debian, hahah, to many question
[06:31] <terrestre> googling I found a solution for my webcam problem compiling spca5xx, the weird thing is that spca5xx its already installing by default
[06:31] <dell190> i tried using Kompile, and it said i need to do it manually
[06:34] <icecruncher> what is the linux command for shutdown?
[06:35] <terrestre> sudo shutdown now
[06:35] <terrestre> ;P
[06:35] <icecruncher> lol
[06:35] <icecruncher> include the now?
[06:35] <terrestre> yeah
[06:35] <terrestre> beacause you can give time
[06:35] <terrestre> or other option
[06:35] <icecruncher> ahh
[06:35] <icecruncher> k
[06:35] <icecruncher> thanks
[06:36] <terrestre> and to reboot sudo shutdown -r now
[06:36] <terrestre> in same place thay said that was better of sudo reboot, i dont know why
[06:37] <terrestre> some place, no same
[06:37] <NamShub> is there some kind of bug in rsync over smbfs or is it supposed to be so slow...?
[06:38] <NamShub> like... 15k/s max
[06:38] <NamShub> at this rate it will complete in about 2 month i guess hehe
[06:39] <erz-> nobody knows about amarok crash due tu taglib error
[06:41] <dell190> i need to install firefox, and i have the TAR.gz file.. i cant install it, i tried kompile and it still don't work, any other options??
[06:42] <Raven301> dell190: sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:43] <dell190> that takes too long to download.. i am on dial up
[06:44] <terrestre> what step are you doing?
[06:44] <terrestre> what said the configure
[06:45] <erz-> have just a problem with accent in my mounted network drive
[06:45] <yaccin> !splash
[06:46] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[06:46] <yaccin> !bootsplash
[06:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:46] <erz-> whats wrong i added to fstab : //192.168.1.2/STK1     /home/server/MP3     smbfs     defaults,nls=utf8,gid=46... and i haven't  
[06:47] <terrestre> erz-: i do it different
[06:48] <terrestre> erz-: i tried that way but its was to many headach to me
[06:48] <Raven301> brb new kernel reboot to 2.6.20.6
[06:49] <erz-> terrestre: my hdd is avaible ... i can read mp3s on it .. i can play it in amarok ... but they appears with missing accent ...
[06:49] <terrestre> that mp3 are in windows
[06:50] <terrestre> I have accent problem too, do you mean this kind of accent? `?
[06:51] <erz-> for sure ...
[06:52] <erz-> my mp3s drive is on my other computer running windows XP and NTFS ... but works great with smbfs ... just a problem of char encoding
[06:52] <terrestre> yeah, that happend to me too
[06:52] <terrestre> many times,
[06:53] <terrestre> with some films too
[06:53] <erz-> in fact i think i have a problem
[06:53] <erz-> i have specified char iso and many thing in smb.conf ..
[06:53] <erz-> but nothing happend
[06:53] <terrestre> theres a OS problem
[06:54] <erz-> oO ?
[06:54] <terrestre> do you see this ?
[06:54] <erz-> yes
[06:54] <erz-> like    
[06:55] <terrestre> yeah, but sometimes its weird funny on files
[06:56] <terrestre> do you know how i do the samba thing? I open konqueror and write smb://192.168.0.xx
[06:56] <warren_> super noob here... anyone know how to get open gl working in feisty with a TNT2 card?
[06:56] <terrestre> and I dont have to setup or download anything
[06:57] <erz-> terrestre: yeah i know ... but i want to use harddrive mount in amarok to have my mp3 collection in
[06:57] <terrestre> erz-: thats because, you are a debain man hahaha
[06:58] <warren_> anyone know why the restricted driver manager shows the "nvidia legacy" driver, but the status is stuck at "needs computer restart" even though I have restarted several times?
[06:58] <hannesduck> Where can i activate the 3d components in feisty
[06:59] <Daisuke_Ido> restricted driver manager?
[06:59] <warren_> hannes... system>administration>desktop effects
[06:59] <erz-> terrestre: lol =)
[06:59] <warren_> sorry
[06:59] <warren_> preferences
[06:59] <hannesduck> hmm in kde?
[06:59] <terrestre> erz-: maybe you can help me, is a little embarrazing but I dont use samba to connect to windows , I connect to other linux
[06:59] <warren_> oh right, im in the wrong channel.
[07:00] <warren_> super noob here... anyone know how to get open gl working in feisty with a TNT2 card?
[07:01] <erz-> terrestre:  i'm a linux noobie
[07:01] <Daisuke_Ido> um...  does the tnt2 even support opengl?
[07:01] <terrestre> erz-: I read that i have to use nfs, but i could'nt
[07:01] <terrestre> erz-: oooh, lets, se im in linux like a year, and you?
[07:01] <erz-> terrestre: i read that too ... but i have only one unix system in my network =)
[07:01] <warren_> yeah, it does... it did i dapper
[07:02] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia-legacy drivers?
[07:02] <erz-> terrestre: not very on  ... just when i need it for server ... just basic command line =)
[07:02] <erz-> always trying to solve problem when im on linux
[07:02] <warren_> well, thats what ubuntu says my card is... not sure if that is waht ti actuall is... yeah, the legacy drivers are installed
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> don't have the slightest idead
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> -d
[07:03] <aaroncampbell> what package gives me mod_rewrite for apache2?
[07:03] <terrestre> erz-: yeah, thats why im on ubuntu, its much easier
[07:03] <warren_> the restricted driver manager says "needs computer restart" although I have restarted several times
[07:03] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu's easier than...  linux.
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> warren_: what restricted driver manager?
[07:04] <hannesduck> how can i activate compiz in kubntu feisty?
[07:04] <warren_> on feisty...system>administration>restricted drivers manager
[07:04] <terrestre> easier than... gentoo!! hahaa im scare with gentoo
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> warren_: in KDE?
[07:04] <hannesduck> gentoo is really cool
[07:04] <hannesduck> yes in KDE
[07:04] <hannesduck> but no flame here :)
[07:04] <erz-> terrestre: totally agreee .. but right now amarok & konqueror are still freeze (for 20 minutes already) ...
[07:04] <warren_> no, im using gnome
[07:04] <Daisuke_Ido> no, that's gnome
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[07:05] <warren_> lol, but this channel seems to be the only one with people nice enough to respond
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a kde-centric channel, and not prepared for most feisty issues :\
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> your best bet would be, say, #ubuntu+1
[07:05] <warren_> yeah, any idea of a good gnome centric
[07:05] <warren_> thanks
[07:05] <Daisuke_Ido> which is designed for feisty
[07:06] <warren_> #ubuntu+1
[07:06] <terrestre> at least you still can stay using the chat, konversation?
[07:08] <erz-> terrestre:  whats the command to see all pid and proc :D dont remember and i just wann kill amarok =))
[07:08] <terrestre> erz-: I dont know, i just know one, sudo killall amarok, for example
[07:08] <Daisuke_Ido> erz-: killall amarok
[07:09] <terrestre> but sometimes didnt work
[07:09] <erz-> ty
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> and killall amarokapp
[07:09] <Daisuke_Ido> (two parts to amarok)
[07:09] <erz-> gonna try it thx
[07:09] <terrestre> how I can know the exact name of the process? i mean killall amsn, never work
[07:10] <erz-> seems working but amarok still launched
[07:11] <erz-> woot ... worked
[07:11] <terrestre> sometimes i just use, ctrl+alt+.............backspace
[07:14] <erz-> works great =)
[07:14] <terrestre> jajajaja
[07:14] <terrestre> what happend?
[07:14] <erz-> all closed =)
[07:15] <erz-> hum trying to use mysql instead of sqlite
[07:15] <terrestre> thats help some times, and dont have to reboot the entire system
[07:16] <terrestre> i dont know nothing about sql haha
[07:17] <erz-> i will try http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/MySQL_HowTo
[07:17] <terrestre> erz-: wait, do you use the tap thing in beryl?
[07:17] <erz-> is it mysql server with fresh kubuntu ?
[07:17] <terrestre> thats is very impresive
[07:17] <erz-> terrestre:  the "tap thing" ?
[07:18] <terrestre> i dont know the tecnichal name of that
[07:18] <terrestre> but when the windows spin
[07:18] <terrestre> mmm spin its not the word haha
[07:18] <terrestre> but there is a windows for one side, and another windows in the other
[07:19] <crazy_penguin> Hello to all!
[07:19] <erz-> the cube ?
[07:19] <terrestre> no
[07:19] <terrestre> mmm do this
[07:19] <terrestre> open to windows, like konverstion and konqueror
[07:19] <terrestre> 2 windows
[07:21] <erz-> hummm
[07:21] <erz-> not now i have again a freeze
[07:21] <terrestre> mmm
[07:22] <terrestre> but do you still can open windows?
[07:23] <terrestre> erz- ?
[07:23] <donovan> hey there,
[07:23] <terrestre> mmm
[07:23] <erz-> well
[07:23] <terrestre> look like a real amarok problem
[07:23] <erz-> i have two Konqueror opened
[07:24] <terrestre> mm
[07:24] <erz-> terrestre: yeah amarok freezing and crashing
[07:24] <terrestre> o right
[07:24] <terrestre> mm but open something else
[07:24] <donovan> i get a seg fault each time i try to launch opera since i've made the last apt-get upgrade (kubuntu feisty)
[07:24] <terrestre> samething different
[07:24] <terrestre> its look better in that way
[07:24] <terrestre> 2 different programas
[07:24] <donovan> any ideas?
[07:25] <erz-> terrestre: right
[07:25] <terrestre> now
[07:25] <terrestre> windows key + s
[07:25] <terrestre> lthe letter s
[07:26] <erz-> do anything
[07:26] <terrestre> stay that 2 keys and do a click with you mouse and one windows
[07:26] <terrestre> the windows its turn grey
[07:26] <terrestre> work the first part?
[07:26] <erz-> nop
[07:26] <terrestre> its beryl activating?
[07:26] <erz-> sure
[07:27] <terrestre> mmm
[07:27] <erz-> maybe not the option in beryl manager
[07:27] <terrestre> the windows key + s more a click on one windows
[07:27] <erz-> nop : /
[07:27] <terrestre> mmm
[07:28] <don_jr__> There was someone else here needing help getting nvidia drivers to work...you still here??
[07:28] <terrestre> and the windows key + tab?
[07:29] <don_jr__> I just installed dapper from alternate CD it defaults to gnome, how do I install KDE and remove gnome?
[07:29] <terrestre> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:29] <terrestre> sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:30] <terrestre> actually the last first
[07:30] <riki46> ma de ch
[07:30] <don_jr__> terrestre thanks
[07:31] <terrestre> erz-: ?
[07:31] <erz-> what ?
[07:31] <erz-> [19:29]  <terrestre> sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <erz-> [19:29]  <-- gemidjy_ a quitt ce serveur (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)).
[07:31] <erz-> [19:29]  <terrestre> sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop
[07:31] <terrestre> no
[07:31] <erz-> u want i do that
[07:31] <terrestre> that was for don-jr
[07:31] <Cavemaaaan> yes i'm still here...need nvidia help
[07:31] <erz-> xD
[07:32] <Cavemaaaan> hi don_jr
[07:32] <terrestre> that unistall the sistem
[07:32] <terrestre> system
[07:32] <don_jr__> Cavemaaaan what's your problem with it, will X run at all for you?
[07:32] <terrestre> erz-: http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=92 this efectt
[07:32] <Cavemaaaan> yup runs great
[07:32] <don_jr__> just need to install the nvidia drivers?
[07:33] <terrestre> Cavemaaaan: do you use the wiki how to?
[07:33] <Cavemaaaan> just whatever i have tried for a week now, i cannot get better than 800x600 res on my 1280x720 hdtv using the analogue computer input
[07:33] <Cavemaaaan> i used the Envy installer to install the nvidia 9755 drivers
[07:34] <Cavemaaaan> and i get the brief nvidia splash screen during startup
[07:34] <Cavemaaaan> i have the nvidia config program in my system menu also
[07:34] <don_jr__> hmmmm, it should be installed.
[07:34] <Cavemaaaan> but nothing anywhere allows me to get better than 800x600
[07:35] <Cavemaaaan> it's like kubuntu just auto detects my tv incorrectly everytime
[07:35] <don_jr__> put your xorg.conf in a pastebin forme
[07:35] <cosmo_> whenever I try to run the adept package manager it gives me an error message that says "Another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one"
[07:35] <cosmo_> I have not started any other package managers and I even tried
[07:35] <cosmo_> Code:
[07:35] <cosmo_> sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[07:35] <cosmo_>  how do I find what other program is running and shut it down?
[07:35] <Cavemaaaan> i currently am running winxp on the same input via a kvm and it runs great with same exact hardware at 1280x720
[07:36] <don_jr__> How do I add repo's so it won't ask for a disk anymore when I'm trying to get stuff?
[07:36] <Cavemaaaan> for a lil bkgrnd, i have to brand new exactly the same computers attached to a kvm using this tv as my comp monitor
[07:37] <don_jr__> hmmmm I just used envy and it worked great.  let's see your xorg.conf file, could be in there
[07:37] <Cavemaaaan> i have done this same scenario for two years now with my older computers
[07:37] <terrestre> erz-: did you saw the video?
[07:37] <don_jr__> hmmmm, dont' know what that's about
[07:37] <terrestre> did you see, sorry
[07:37] <Cavemaaaan> damn i don't have my linux box shard with my winxp box yet and i'm on the winxp box right now
[07:37] <don_jr__> not the problem I saw earlier, and not sure how to fix that one....odd
[07:38] <sam123> i need to know the defualt installation directory of java so i can put a plugin there, i install java using sudo apt-get install
[07:38] <Cavemaaaan> so i can't get a copy of the xorg.conf to ya
[07:39] <Cavemaaaan> hey don_jr, are you usually on here? i have to go to easter dinner pretty quick here...but if you'll be on later tonight or tomorrow, i can try to get the data for ya to peruse
[07:39] <sam123> can someone help me?
[07:40] <erz-> terrestre: will try after
[07:41] <terrestre> its a impresive effect
[07:43] <sam123>  i need to know the defualt installation directory of java so i can put a plugin there, i install java using sudo apt-get install
[07:43] <don_jr__> Cavemaaaan I'll be on a bit later tonight and maybe tomorrow, not sure
[07:43] <don_jr__> Can anyone here tell me how to get it so that aptitude/apt-get doens't ask for the cd? how to add repo's?
[07:43] <Cavemaaaan> okay don...thanks very much
[07:43] <don_jr__> Cavemaaaan Anytime, have a good evening!
[07:43] <sivaji> sam123 : /usr/local
[07:43] <Cavemaaaan> you too :)
[07:45] <sam123> sivaji: and what exactly is usr/local i type cd /usr/local  and it couldnt find the dir, my username is sam, so it should be /sam/local ?
[07:46] <sivaji> no i am not sure about dir but it is somewhere in /usr/local
[07:46] <terrestre> Cavemaaaan:  do you use, feisty o edgy?
[07:46] <don_jr__> Any help on keeping apt-get/aptitude from asking for a cd?
[07:46] <sivaji> sam123:no i am not sure about dir but it is somewhere in /usr/local
[07:47] <tuco_> I am typing "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" to check that the ATI drivers are used for Beryl, but nothing happens. Why?
[07:48] <terrestre> tuco_: do you use, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:48] <tuco_> Kubuntu Terrestre
[07:48] <terrestre> don_jr__: do you want add a cd?
[07:48] <terrestre> gksudo its for ubuntu
[07:48] <tuco_> ah
[07:48] <terrestre> y gedit tb
[07:48] <don_jr__> no, want it to stop asking for a CD when I use apt.  It want's the install CD and I don't want it to ask forit
[07:48] <tuco_> so I need to change the line?
[07:48] <whitedoggie> hey - just downloaded the newest beta of kubuntu, but for some reason, konqueror does not work... is this a known bug?
[07:49] <terrestre> and your case, sudo kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:49] <tuco_> ah ok let me try :-)
[07:50] <tuco_> yep that's it...thanks Terrestre. I have managed to install Beryl (goodness me) so far, so I am trying to see if it works at all now!
[07:50] <vbvb> hi all
[07:50] <vbvb> i need help
[07:50] <vbvb> it s the first time to use kubuntu
[07:51] <terrestre> tuco_: nice tuco, http://liquidweather.net/howto/index.php?id=92 cheack out this effect with beryl ;)
[07:51] <vbvb> and i can t setup the lan network
[07:51] <cosmo_> how do I install a tar.gz file?
[07:51] <don_jr__> vbvb go into a console and type in ifconfig and tell me what it says
[07:52] <vbvb> now i speak from winxp
[07:52] <vbvb> and i need restart my computer to use kubuntu
[07:52] <vbvb> you understand me?
[07:53] <tuco_> Ooops O just wet my pants watching that terrestre :-)
[07:53] <vbvb> don jr:are you know how to use windows xp?
[07:53] <terrestre> erz-: read the tuco cooment
[07:53] <terrestre> tuco_: yeah, i feel the same thing the firstime too jaja
[07:54] <terrestre> vbvb: do you have internet conecction in kubuntu?
[07:54] <vbvb> no
[07:54] <vbvb> i want to know how?
[07:54] <don_jr__> vbvb yes I have an XP box
[07:54] <vbvb> iok
[07:55] <don_jr__> vbvb but if you can't get onto Kubuntu to look at things and still behere it's goingto be difficult
[07:55] <vbvb> when i want to setup connection in xp
[07:55] <vbvb> please speak me firstly
[07:55] <terrestre> do you want to setup your xp conecction?
[07:56] <vbvb> no
[07:56] <don_jr__> vbvb you have the connection on XP but cannot get it to work on Kubuntu correct?
[07:56] <vbvb> ya that s right
[07:56] <don_jr__> Okay, you'll need to manually change your IP and gateway most likley, gonna be hard to walk you through it if you cannot do it right now with me
[07:57] <vbvb> i want conniction  using abroadband conction
[07:57] <vbvb> isp name
[07:57] <vbvb> and password
[07:57] <vbvb> like xp
[07:57] <don_jr__> are you directly connected to the modem? or through a router?  even with XP on broadband it shouldn't ask for name and pw every time you use it.
[07:58] <supernix>  /j #nvu
[07:59] <supernix> Anyone here using NVU ?
[07:59] <don_jr__> I don't even know what nvu is
[07:59] <don_jr__> sorry
[07:59] <supernix> np thanks for the reply
[08:00] <vbvb> when i want to run net in the xp first i connect to server"adminstrator" then it be register my ip and name then i enter the net
[08:00] <PF-Away> supernix: i've tried it, a long time ago
[08:01] <supernix> I am trying to install the Joomla template helper extension into NVU but it just wont with not explanation of why
[08:01] <PF-Away> supernix: but I went quickly back to kate
[08:01] <jgunn> hey - does anyone know if there is a known bug with konqueror for the lastest update?
[08:02] <supernix> hmmm kate is a html editor?
[08:02] <PF-Away> supernix: kate is an editor
[08:02] <PF-Away> supernix: a very good editor
[08:02] <supernix> ah so pretty much text editing
[08:02] <vbvb> device name    wan miniport (pppoE)
[08:02] <supernix> I wanted to use NVU for the WYSIWYG editing to help with rapid development
[08:03] <vbvb> service type        ppp
[08:03] <vbvb> and i don t know what is it?
[08:03] <vbvb> all this in windows xp
[08:04] <vbvb> please help
[08:04] <ScottLij_> Why can't I select KDevelop in the add/remove program? (its grayed out)
[08:04] <terrestre> vbvb: do you use ethernet or usb?
[08:05] <vbvb> ethernet
[08:05] <vbvb> i have ethernet
[08:05] <tuco_> terrestre what replaces nautilus in kde?
[08:05] <terrestre> konqueror
[08:05] <tuco_> ok thanks
[08:05] <Jisao> I have to burn the iso file of Feisty.  What is the proper burn mode in K3B?
[08:05] <terrestre> its a browser and filemanager
[08:06] <PF-Away> tuco_: also try Dolphin, it's supposed to replace Konqueror in KDE 4
[08:06] <don_jr__> Okay, I did sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop.  When I do sudo aptitude remove gnome-desktop it doesn't remove anything.
[08:06] <etalli> wouldn't it be ubuntu-desktop?
[08:06] <terrestre> when you were on kubunu open a konsole and write sudo pppoeconf
[08:06] <terrestre> yeah, ubuntu-desktop
[08:07] <don_jr__> etalli I'll try that now
[08:07] <vbvb> terrestre:then?
[08:07] <supernix> I have the dvd of Kubuntu 6.10 what is the best way to update from 6.06 lts ?
[08:07] <tuco_> I am just doing this for the time being...I will see later on. Right now I need to have Beryl working :-)
[08:07] <don_jr__> I'm on gnome now, should I change over to kde bfore I remove gnome? lol
[08:07] <terrestre> there a screen and you have to follow the instructions, and fill with your data info
[08:08] <terrestre> don_jr__: jajaja
[08:08] <etalli> lol probably
[08:08] <terrestre> tuco_: what how to are you follow?
[08:08] <terrestre> sorry for my english
[08:08] <terrestre> hahaha
[08:08] <don_jr__> terrestre KDE doesn't show up when I try to change sessions
[08:08] <vbvb> terrestre:only?
[08:09] <tuco_> this: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[08:09] <terrestre> vbvb: that work for my friend
[08:09] <tuco_> very helpful and easy for people like me starting with Linux
[08:09] <terrestre> don_jr__: thats weird, maybe rebooting?
[08:10] <don_jr__> doing that now
[08:10] <terrestre> tuco_: the how to for beryl in wiki.kubuntu.org its very usefull
[08:10] <_dennis_> when i move my cursor above a launch icon, a small window with some information about the icon displays, how can i hide it, i'm looking already for a while in appearance and themes section but i simply can't find it
[08:10] <pollyo> Hello
[08:11] <don_jr__> _dennis_ I don't know exactly where to find it, but you need to turn off/dissable the 'tips'
[08:11] <_dennis_> ok, tnx
[08:11] <pollyo> I'm running feisty and Adept is telling me a new version of kubuntu is available!?  It is asking me to click next to continue.and it does not give me an option to click next
[08:12] <don_jr__> kde still not showing up after I installed kubuntu-desktop...will look thorugh synaptic
[08:12] <terrestre> don_jr__: do you use aptitude or apt-get?
[08:12] <pollyo> I just did an update with adept.
[08:12] <don_jr__> terrestre I sued aptitude
[08:12] <cosmo_> when I am trying to kill a process it keeps telling me "Insufficient permissions to kill process" how do I get sufficent permission?
[08:13] <terrestre> pollyo: yeah i have to download 300mb after install, its a beta version, many change happend
[08:13] <terrestre> don_jr__: , i didti that way
[08:13] <pollyo> terrestre: I already have feisty though.
[08:13] <pollyo> terrestre: Are you saying that even for those who have fiesty installed they have another big change?
[08:13] <terrestre> the feisty available its just beta
[08:13] <don_jr__> terrestre I just did sudo aptitude install kde and it's going
[08:14] <terrestre> yeah i tried that, but install other things
[08:14] <terrestre> don_jr__: to be honest with you
[08:14] <don_jr__> I just n eed to get into KDE, I don't like gnome...lol
[08:14] <pollyo> cosmo_: Have you tried sudo kill?
[08:14] <terrestre> the kubuntu-destkop thing just bringme problem hahaha
[08:15] <terrestre> so, i reinstall the system and dont install ubuntu-dekstop
[08:15] <cosmo_> pollyo: no I hadn't tried that yet, didn't know the command
[08:15] <don_jr__> now I have to get wine to work on my desktop, since it won't work here on my laptop
[08:15] <supernix> anyone know how to upgrade to edgy from LTS ?
[08:16] <don_jr__> sudo aptitude dist-upgrade?
[08:16] <supernix> I have the dvd so I am sure it would be much faster than downloading everything
[08:16] <don_jr__> I woulnd't know how to do it from a disk
[08:16] <ScottLij_> why can't I use adept to install KDevelop?
[08:17] <terrestre> don_jr__: do you tried in non graphic mode?
[08:17] <supernix> dist upgrade wont update anything just tried it
[08:18] <don_jr__> terrestre I may do that, it's installing KDE now, once I get moved over I'll work on removing gnome
[08:18] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: What goes wrong?
[08:18] <etalli> On a clean install of kubuntu i need to change the resolution to 1280x800 but it is not in the list under the monitor section even though it is in my monitor section of xorg.conf, can anyone help?
[08:18] <ScottLij_> It's greyed out
[08:18] <don_jr__> supernix hmmmm, I'm not sure then.  I"m still pretty new to linux as a whole
[08:18] <cosmo_> I think the offending process is apt-index-watch what would be the command to kill it?
[08:18] <supernix> Me to don_jr__ well not exactly new but I hardly use it enough to remember anything
[08:19] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: I don't know, then.  Close adept, and do sudo apt-get install kdevelop from the command-line.
[08:19] <don_jr__> supernix I have had ubuntu on my laptop for about a year, but like you, don't hardly use it, or when I do it's just web browsing and that's it.
[08:19] <don_jr__> found wine, so now I"m putting kubuntu on my main desktop too, I'm sick of winblows
[08:20] <ScottLij_> "Package kdevelop is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:20] <ScottLij_> "
[08:20] <supernix> I have used nix clones for over 7 years on and off but mostly stuck with XP due to programs for financial accounting for business
[08:20] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: Have you enabled the Universe repository?
[08:20] <supernix> Once they got the cut and paste working in Linux it really attracted me back
[08:21] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[08:21] <ScottLij_> no, how do I do that?
[08:21] <SSJ_GZ> !universe
[08:21] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:21] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: ^^^
[08:21] <ScottLij_> 6.10
[08:21] <etalli> can anyone help me out
[08:21] <don_jr__> supernix I've enjoyed the customizability of linux so far.  scripting you can make it do so much more than a windows macro.  I enjoy it quite a bit.
[08:21] <Alonea> ok, I am trying to copy one file from my ntfs drive because my windows blew up again, but it starts to copy it, then stalls part way, and then almost crashes my linux system.
[08:22] <don_jr__> etalli I'm not sure how to fix that.  if it shows up under xorg.conf then you should have the availability to change it within kubuntu.
[08:22] <supernix> I am sure I would love it to if I would learn some kind of scripting language
[08:22] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: Follow the "Adding the Universe and Multiverse" guide in the link
[08:22] <don_jr__> supernix I've just stuck with bash since it's the default terminal
[08:23] <don_jr__> Alonea can you get into the windows box at all?
[08:23] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: Then try to install kdevelop again
[08:23] <terrestre> don_jr__: do you have de kde sessions available now?
[08:23] <SSJ_GZ> ScottLij_: Then follow the steps in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399090
[08:24] <Alonea> don_jr__: nope. says a system file is missing. wanted to do windows repair, but the r option on the windows install screen is missing
[08:24] <don_jr__> terrestre nope, still installing a bunch of stuff, dkegraphics, kviewshell and a bunch of others, I don't know how far in total it is yet.
[08:24] <don_jr__> Alonea then I don't know.  I can help with ftp setup to transfer if the windows box is up, but if it's not, I dont' know how to fix that.
[08:24] <terrestre> don_jr__: do you know the comand to stop de grafic mode? i can tell you if dont
[08:24] <don_jr__> use a startup disk and save the file tod isk?
[08:25] <don_jr__> terrestre why do I want to stop grafic mode?
[08:25] <terrestre> when remove the ubuntu-desktop
[08:25] <Alonea> don_jr__: its ok. though, when i did start linux, it said a bunch of buffer I/o errors on the ntfs drive, but when I did windows' file system check thing, it said it was fine...
[08:25] <etalli> don_jr__ yea, seems.  I have done 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' more than once, tried to find a modeline to add, and now I am stuck.  I've gotta set this up before Monday
[08:25] <don_jr__> terrestre Alright, I'm goingto try removing gnome, once I get into KDE, if I can't get into KDE then yes, I can get into a terminal text mode only.
[08:27] <don_jr__> etalli I'm honestly not sure about that one, if you'd reconfig'd xorg and it's in the xorg.conf file I wouldn't know what else to check as to why it won't allow that resolution within kubuntu.  Another guy has this same problem earlier, he hasn't got it fixed yet either.  maybe try #ubuntu if no one here knows right now?
[08:28] <etalli> ok, will do.  I am stumped, and glad to hear I'm not the only one :)
[08:28] <sivaji> kubuntu 7.04 has released can i upgrade for kubuntu 6.06 to 7.04
[08:29] <terrestre> jajaja I was tryng to remember the command and I close the ghraphic mode, jajaj
[08:29] <makuseru> sivaji: i would wait till its final release
[08:29] <sivaji> i think it release full i could download it
[08:30] <pollyo> Has feisty been released or is it still a beta?
[08:30] <makuseru> sivaji: its final release is 19th
[08:30] <makuseru> beta
[08:30] <sivaji> ya u r correct it is beta
[08:30] <pollyo> makuseru: That is what I thought.  Thanks.
[08:30] <makuseru> yup
[08:31] <terrestre> theres a new tool, in the web, to update freom 6.06
[08:31] <sivaji> is there any way to upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04 ple tell me
[08:31] <makuseru> sivaji: if it wasnt beta this would be a fiesty room and ubuntu+1 would be the next release
[08:31] <terrestre> iread about it
[08:31] <terrestre> its like a program
[08:31] <don_jr__> terrestre alt+f4 isn't it? to drop to a terminal?
[08:31] <pjcrosier> i've just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu :) only one problem - i'm using xchat in tree mode and it doesn't seem to want to color channel names on activity, anyone come across this before?
[08:31] <makuseru> sivaji: change dapper in your sources.list to feisty
[08:31] <etalli> don_jr__  I just thought, would it help you to know that I'm on Feisty?
[08:31] <don_jr__> what's the benefit of upgrading from 6.06 to the 7.04 version?
[08:31] <sivaji> how to change that
[08:32] <mrigns> don_jr__: 0.98
[08:32] <don_jr__> etalli no that doesn't help me any at all, I don't know much about the graphic's stuff.  I used envy to install my nvidia card and it works great forme...
[08:32] <makuseru> just open it in a editor and change them all
[08:32] <sivaji> open it means "it " refers to what
[08:32] <don_jr__> makuseru what is the benefit of upgrading from 6.06 to 7.04?  what new packages make it worth it to worry about?
[08:33] <erz-> terrestre: hi back ....just wanna know why amarok crash
[08:33] <makuseru> sivaji: i just said your sources.list
[08:33] <terrestre> don_jr__: alt-f4 close windows
[08:33] <etalli> don_jr__  just was wondering, I should have stated in the first message
[08:33] <makuseru> don_jr: im not quite sure really
[08:34] <mrigns> as i said 0.98
[08:34] <terrestre> erz
[08:34] <sivaji> i am very new to linux so tell me clearly where is source list u mean repositary
[08:34] <makuseru> don_jr__: i just stay up to date, even though i do really like the new art in feisty
[08:34] <terrestre> erz-: check out the web that i give you
[08:34] <makuseru> sivaji: i mean the file sources.list
[08:34] <Jisao> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <don_jr__> makuseru I may look into it, I change the style's and art of my box anyways so htat's no biggie by me.
[08:34] <makuseru> sivaji: if your not sure abotu that, you probably shouldnt be doing a "dity upgrade" or what ever you want to call it, just burn the feisty iso to a CD
[08:35] <makuseru> don_jr__: i mean how it boots and shuts down, the menus are diff, i really like um now
[08:35] <sampan> hrmmm, why would i not be able to call up kcontrol from katapault?  it used to work just fine
[08:35] <don_jr__> makuseru that's good, I updated my loading splash, as for the first shown 'loading' type list...a change in that might be neat depending...
[08:36] <terrestre> don_jr__: to go to non grpaphic mode do you have to use ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or 3 or etc. ... with F7 you back to grapfhic mode
[08:36] <terrestre> ctrl+alt+F7
[08:36] <don_jr__> sivaji hit alt+f2 and type in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list   it will ask for password and you can then edit the file they are speaking of.
[08:37] <makuseru> don_jr__: i dont think he should be doing that, he will end up breaking it
[08:37] <makuseru> more than likely
[08:37] <chemicalvamp> how would you mount a iso?
[08:38] <don_jr__> makuseru maybe, but you live you learn, someone ask how...I tell them....lol  Downloading the CD and burning it would be the best way to do it.
[08:38] <makuseru> yes
[08:38] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp I'm not sure but isn't 'mount' a command in and of it's self?  sudo mount "path to iso"
[08:39] <makuseru> don_jr__: even though i plan on just a quick and dirty upgrade to feisty, but thats cause ive had this edgy machine since it came out, and do not want to reconfigure everything on a new install
[08:39] <terrestre> theres a new tool for upgrade to edgy
[08:39] <terrestre> i read about ir
[08:39] <terrestre> it
[08:39] <chemicalvamp> mount: can't find /home/chemicalvamp/c.iso in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab don_JR_
[08:40] <sivaji> ya i got that file what i am suppose to do
[08:40] <terrestre> chemicalvamp: to mount, ist just one line but it a little large i found it in google but i forget anytime
[08:40] <makuseru> !iso
[08:40] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[08:41] <makuseru> there ya go
[08:41] <don_jr__> sivaji if you really want to do that...I woulnd't if I were you, but you can change all 'dapper' to fiesty and then from terminal type in sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  and it should do it.
[08:41] <makuseru> ya, i told him that already
[08:41] <makuseru> and he didnt know what the sources.list was
[08:42] <don_jr__> makuseru he got the file open now and was asking agian what needed changed.  I headed that onewith a warningof not to do it....I've learned alot the hard way too...lol
[08:42] <makuseru> me too
[08:42] <lebricon> #hack
[08:42] <terrestre> who is the guy that wanna upgrade to feisty?
[08:43] <don_jr__> all I can say is 'linux for dummies' lies...lol  I still don't understand some of it and learning to script, I goofed up quite a bit in the beginning! lol
[08:43] <makuseru> sivaji
[08:43] <chemicalvamp> sudo mount -o loop /home/chemicalvamp/c.img /mnt/C:
[08:43] <chemicalvamp> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[08:43] <don_jr__> KDE is almost done on my main PC, thank God, I'll be leaving in a moment once it's done and I'll come back on that box
[08:44] <chemicalvamp> where do i insert ntfs?
[08:44] <sampan> sheesh katapault is really acting weird -- first it can't find kcontrol and now it fades as soon as i type a second letter
[08:44] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp look at the site and see where it tells you to add that option
[08:44] <terrestre> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade <----------- to the guy that want to upgrade
[08:45] <terrestre> chemical the filesystem in this case is somelike -9800 o algo asi
[08:45] <terrestre> or something like that
[08:45] <don_jr__> I may try the upgrade, after I get the box set up in the first place.  It's finished installing things and now it's setting them up....hope it's done soon.
[08:45] <chemicalvamp> don_jr__ actually the site tells you about conversions..
[08:46] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp oh...hmmmmmm not sure then.  let me do some looking
[08:47] <terrestre> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop file.iso /where/to/mount/  <---- i found the command in google
[08:47] <chemicalvamp> thank
[08:47] <hunshad> hey al
[08:47] <terrestre> why I search the line, i dont know jajaja
[08:48] <hunshad> i have a problem with java on konqueror
[08:48] <don_jr__> Yay, got KDE up and running
[08:48] <terrestre> nice
[08:48] <terrestre> you are on kde now?
[08:48] <terrestre> do
[08:49] <chemicalvamp> think i figured it out, what filesystem tag would a ntfs hdd img have?
[08:49] <hunshad> on firefox that work
[08:49] <hunshad> but not on konqueror
[08:49] <hunshad> who can help me
[08:50] <sivaji> konqueror is not so good ,use firefox
[08:50] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp I'm not sure what tag it would use.....but I found a place that has a script to automate mounting for you.
[08:51] <makuseru> sivaji: dont tell people that, konqueror is fine
[08:51] <fdoving> does the intel 950 work with dualhead? i'm thinking of buying a laptop with one of those graphic adapters.
[08:51] <hunshad> no just java don't working
[08:52] <don_jr__> grrrrr sudo aptitude remove gnome did nothing
[08:52] <terrestre> what do you use people? konqueror or firefox?
[08:52] <chemicalvamp> java isnt supported at all for amd64 hunshad i have to emulate a 32bit firefox and even then it dont work all the time
[08:52] <terrestre> sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[08:52] <makuseru> don_jr__: try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <don_jr__> sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop did nothingaswell
[08:52] <makuseru> ha
[08:52] <don_jr__> terrestre I use konquerer
[08:52] <hunshad> but
[08:52] <hunshad> java d'ont work
[08:53] <makuseru> dunno, works on mine
[08:53] <hunshad> i downlaod java runtime environment
[08:53] <don_jr__> hunshad there was a program at one time that I was told about and used briefly that installed flash/java and a couple other things all at once....
[08:53] <terrestre> don_jr__: yeah that was the problem that I talckiing about, now the question, when you start says kubuntu o ubuntu, and are u using gdm o kdm?
[08:53] <don_jr__> I'll need to do the same, get java/flash and macromedia all of them up again.
[08:54] <don_jr__> terrestre I want to use KDE I dong' like gnome.  I want gnome gone!
[08:54] <x3m-tux> hello
[08:54] <terrestre> don_jr__: the java/flash dont need to do it :) I install feisty beta yestarday and konqueror auto install flash 9 when I was surifng the web
[08:54] <etalli> don_jr__  what do you mean by nothing, like literally "" nothing, or what?
[08:55] <terrestre> sorry the java i dont know, the flash yeas
[08:55] <hunshad> yes java flash
[08:55] <hunshad> mine dont work
[08:55] <don_jr__> etalli it did a list of stuff then at the end said, 0 upgraded, 0 installed 0 removed..no changes made
[08:55] <terrestre> hunshad: do you are using feisty or edgy?
[08:56] <chemicalvamp> what does sudo apt-get install kde- say?
[08:56] <x3m-tux> hunshad: you have no java as default in kernel?
[08:56] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp I did that already and I'm on KDE, I need to get rid of gnome now.
[08:56] <etalli> hmm, wierd.  Could it be somehow in use, even if you are in kde
[08:56] <don_jr__> etalli possibly, not sure
[08:56] <hunshad> but i had 6.10 lts
[08:56] <chemicalvamp> sudo apt-get remove gnome
[08:56] <hunshad> ubuntu
[08:56] <x3m-tux> KDE have java by default
[08:57] <don_jr__> I'll log out and come no under console only
[08:57] <hunshad> and i have download kuduntu desktop
[08:57] <etalli> don_jr__ are you sure that backing up and reinstalling is not possible:)
[08:57] <x3m-tux> aa not Kubuntu
[08:57] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp that does nothing for me I tried it
[08:57] <hunshad> and i have download kuduntu desktop
[08:57] <hunshad> and kde
[08:57] <chemicalvamp> look in adept, filter gnome
[08:57] <terrestre> don_jr__: maybe installing kdm first and purge gdm later, will ask you for remove a lot of gnome things
[08:57] <don_jr__> etalli yes, I have the ubuntu alternace CD and gnome comes in automatically.
[08:57] <terrestre> don_jr__:
[08:58] <don_jr__> terrestre I have kdm installed now
[08:58] <x3m-tux> hunshad: and after instal no java ?
[08:58] <terrestre> so tray now with sudo aptitude purge gdm
[08:58] <hunshad> i   install java runtime environment
[08:58] <etalli> well, if you have the option of backing up and reinstalling, you could get the Kubuntu alternate cd
[08:58] <chemicalvamp> hunshad i have to run windows xp in qemu to watch embedded video... but i dont really recomend it
[08:58] <etalli> or ddo you not have cd burning ability
[08:58] <hunshad> bah go on firefox
[08:59] <don_jr__> terrestre I just did sudo apt-get remove gdm and it started to run then came up with i/o warning: failed to load external entity "/var/lib/scrollkeeper/(null)/scrollkeeper_cl.xml"
[08:59] <x3m-tux> hunshad: and after instal it's gone?
[08:59] <don_jr__> etalli I do, but I don't have any blank CD's at this point! lol
[08:59] <etalli> lol
[08:59] <hunshad> no
[08:59] <terrestre> sudo aptitude purge gaim
[08:59] <terrestre> tray that
[08:59] <x3m-tux> hunshad: tray search java from KDE find folders
[08:59] <hunshad> it's wee
[08:59] <terrestre> tray its not the word
[08:59] <chemicalvamp> but gaim is the shit
[08:59] <terrestre> haha
[09:00] <hunshad> ok i will check now
[09:00] <don_jr__> sudo apt-get purge gdm comes back with E: Invalid operation purge
[09:00] <terrestre> aptitude not apt-get
[09:00] <terrestre> i always preferd aptitude
[09:00] <x3m-tux> i like use al stuff in X
[09:00] <terrestre> preferd? exist that ward? jajaja my english suck
[09:01] <hunshad> after instal it's gone
[09:01] <terrestre> word
[09:01] <sheeple>  /msg nickserv link laire $luc4rd3
[09:01] <supernix> I have tried and tried and tried to upgrade using the cdromupgrade from the 6.10 cd and it always gives an error
[09:01] <hunshad> libflash-mozplugin
[09:01] <don_jr__> I don't have adept.....
[09:01] <x3m-tux> so instal adept
[09:01] <terrestre> don_jr__: no, its a command
[09:01] <terrestre> aptitude
[09:02] <terrestre> but i like because its complete better the dependencies
[09:02] <terrestre> than apt-get
[09:02] <don_jr__> I know that, I'll work on it, I'm just saying it's odd I don't have adept here...lol
[09:02] <terrestre> jajaja
[09:02] <terrestre> sorry
[09:02] <x3m-tux> aa debian apt get install
[09:02] <terrestre> and purge gaim?
[09:02] <sivaji> i cant open adept
[09:03] <terrestre> one day i tray to remove gaim and, ask e if i want to remove a lot of things
[09:03] <jhutchins> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[09:03] <black_syphilis> French?
[09:03] <don_jr__> terrestre I did sudo aptitude purge gdm.  removing gdm... purging configuration files for gdm ... removing user 'gdm'... done.
[09:03] <chemicalvamp> !fr
[09:03] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:04] <sivaji> ! configure adept
[09:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure adept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:04] <sivaji> !  adept
[09:04] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[09:04] <terrestre> try with gaim, and when you ask you if you want remove, if you said no will give you a lot of options
[09:04] <x3m-tux> terrestre: newe un instal al things it's not goog for the hart :-)
[09:04] <don_jr__> terrestre you tellingme to try and remove gaim and see what it says?
[09:04] <terrestre> don_jr__:  yeah
[09:05] <etalli> is there a way to change the resolution from the console?
[09:05] <terrestre> x3m-tux: sorry i dont understand you
[09:05] <x3m-tux> ete
[09:05] <dvayanu> hi
[09:05] <terrestre> my english its not too good
[09:05] <terrestre> jajaja
[09:05] <x3m-tux> etalli: YES
[09:05] <don_jr__> terrestre alright, I'll try that in a moment.  I'm installing kubuntu-desktop again...not sure why it didn't keep it from before, but it's going, I'll follow that link you gave and use adept to upgrade to fiesty and fix alotofthis
[09:06] <etalli> x3m-tux  OK, how!?
[09:06] <dvayanu> i need some hints installing hp photosmart c6180 under kubuntu edge
[09:06] <x3m-tux> etalli: you can chnage resulution in xorg
[09:06] <don_jr__> terrestre habla espanol?
[09:06] <terrestre> sip
[09:06] <etalli> x3m-tux elaborate please
[09:07] <terrestre> don_jr__: sip
[09:07] <don_jr__> yo hablo muy poco espanol   if I even spelled that right! lol
[09:07] <terrestre> jaja so now you know how i feel
[09:07] <x3m-tux> etalli: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and edit there
[09:07] <ypsila> moin
[09:08] <sheeple> is there an edgy deb available for k3b 1.0 yet?
[09:08] <kumamoto> don_jr__: still hanging around
[09:08] <x3m-tux> i have also resulution problems :-(
[09:08] <don_jr__> terrestre yes, I want to learn to speak spanish better.
[09:08] <sheeple> can't find one
[09:08] <terrestre> and i english, but with know people around me to talk its kind of difficult
[09:09] <don_jr__> kumamoto yep, I'm still here, got alot done on my desktop now, got it online and the nvidia drivers installed and KDE up and running, now workin on removeing gnome! lol
[09:09] <x3m-tux> i think it's fonts and dpi problem if some one can help me
[09:09] <don_jr__> terrestre same problem here, no one I"m around speaks spanish fluently
[09:09] <etalli> where in it, I have edited the monitor and screen parts tomy resolution, but a) it doesn't change, even when I restart X w/ Ctrl-Alt-Bksp and b) it later doesn't show up in the control panel area
[09:09] <kumamoto> don_jr__: nice
[09:09] <terrestre> don_jr__: where are you from?
[09:09] <kumamoto> right now am on my kubuntu laptop
[09:09] <don_jr__> terrestre I'm in the US, the pittifull state of Kansas! lol
[09:09] <terrestre> kubuntu laptop around here too
[09:10] <etalli> don_jr and terrestre, Je parle franc,ais un peux
[09:10] <kumamoto> don_jr__: how is intelligent design going
[09:10] <x3m-tux> kumamoto: what laptop you have ?
[09:10] <terrestre> jaja cool
[09:10] <don_jr__> kumamoto I'm on a laptop aswell, that was originally installed from the ubuntu alternate CD now runs KDE only and works pretty well, if I can get wine to work on my desktop I'll be happy
[09:10] <kumamoto> regular dell inspiron 8600
[09:10] <x3m-tux> i have T42
[09:11] <don_jr__> kumamoto inteligent design....you know me from another place?  or is that an accidental refferal to other topics I discuss in other places? lol
[09:11] <jhutchins> etalli: Do you have krandrtray running?
[09:11] <jhutchins> etalli: That's a handy way to set your resolution.
[09:11] <kumamoto> don_jr__: don't know thought it was a kansas thing
[09:11] <etalli> jhutchins, um maybe?  what is that?
[09:12] <don_jr__> kumamoto Okay, it is to an extent, we are the only state that requires it to be taught.  I am a Christian and discuss that topic quite a bit in other places.  Thought maybe you recognized the name! lol
[09:12] <etalli> jhutchins, and how do i start it
[09:12] <jhutchins> etalli: A utility for changing resolution called krandrtray.  kde panel applet.
[09:12] <kumamoto> don_jr__: ah
[09:12] <x3m-tux> kumamoto: ok i have thinkpad
[09:12] <dvayanu> nevermind, i told him to use photosmart 7150 drivers, it worked as charm
[09:13] <kumamoto> x3m-tux: ah
[09:13] <terrestre> etalli: I just know one thing in french,  a tout le monde, a tout mes amis, je vous aime, je dois partir jaja
[09:13] <kumamoto> aesthetically never liked thinkpad but hardware wise they are nice
[09:14] <x3m-tux> jhutchins: this krundtray have mutch settings option??
[09:14] <dauoalagio2> Hello how can i burn an audio cd with MP3's?  they play in amarok but K3b says it's not supported
[09:15] <terrestre> do you need install some things
[09:15] <terrestre> and k3b do it
[09:15] <dauoalagio2> what do i install
[09:15] <x3m-tux> jhutchins: hello
[09:16] <sheeple> is there an edgy deb available for k3b 1.0 yet?
[09:16] <ms_> Hola! Necesito ayuda con Linux!! Alguien me puede ayudar?
[09:16] <sheeple> I haven't been able to find a 1.0 deb file yet
[09:16] <x3m-tux> dauoalagio2: take al what hawe to do whit mp3
[09:16] <ms_> Por favor!
[09:16] <PhinnFort> sheeple: i have it in feisty
[09:17] <dauoalagio2> x3m-tux: thanks
[09:17] <sheeple> yeah, I'm still running edgy
[09:17] <x3m-tux> dauoalagio2: becorse some thing is missing for you
[09:17] <terrestre> ms hay un canal en espaol, kubuntu-es y si puedo yo te puedo ayudar
[09:17] <sheeple> maybe I'll just wait a couple weeks til feisty is rtm
[09:17] <ms_> Por favor terrestre
[09:18] <x3m-tux> good night dudes
[09:18] <terrestre> dauoalagio2: do you are on edgy or feisty?
[09:18] <terrestre> ms_:  dime
[09:18] <dauoalagio2> terrestre: edgy
[09:18] <ms_> Esta es la primera vez que me conecto aqui inclusive, lo hice mas por necesidad, no conozco ni de esto
[09:19] <terrestre> dauoalagio2:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[09:19] <terrestre> check out that link
[09:19] <dauoalagio2> terrestre: i have all those installe
[09:19] <dauoalagio2> d
[09:19] <terrestre> mmm
[09:19] <ms_> Tengo un problema con el adept, se me quedo pegado y aunq reinicie me dice que necesito cerrar la sesion anterior o sino no puedo hacer nada...
[09:19] <terrestre> so that werid
[09:19] <ms_> Al menos con el adept y necesito instalar unas cosas
[09:19] <terrestre> yo no uso el adept, solo aptitude
[09:19] <terrestre> pero bueno
[09:20] <kumamoto> ppl no habla espanol
[09:20] <ms_> Quiza me digas como puedo matar el proceso... a ver si asi puedo continuar
[09:20] <don_jr__> wow upgrading to 7.04 is going to take some time
[09:20] <terrestre> si, soy chileno
[09:20] <ms_> Es que soy completamente nuevo en linux...
[09:20] <terrestre> !es
[09:20] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:21] <terrestre> hace click en kubuntu-es
[09:21] <DaSkreech> !es | terrestre and ms_ please read
[09:21] <ubotu> terrestre and ms_ please read: please see above
[09:21] <DaSkreech> terrestre: gracias :-)
[09:21] <terrestre> :)
[09:21] <ms_> Uboto, disculpa, entre a este canal de pura suerte, no tengo ni idea de como cambiarme...
[09:21] <terrestre> hace click en kubuntu-es
[09:23] <terrestre> ubotu: ms, said sorry
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ms, said sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <terrestre> jajaja nice
[09:23] <terrestre> uboto is a bot?
[09:23] <DaSkreech> terrestre: Si
[09:24] <terrestre> jajaja
[09:24] <terrestre> somebody knows why some killall work and other not?
[09:24] <don_jr__> is there an equivilent to yahoo messenger that can be used on kubuntu?
[09:24] <terrestre> for example  killall amsn, didnt
[09:25] <DaSkreech> !yahoo
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <DaSkreech> !msn
[09:25] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:25] <terrestre> !es
[09:25] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:26] <don_jr__> thanks DaSkreech I'll lookinto it, but doesn't say yahoo! lol
[09:26] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: It's biased :)
[09:26] <don_jr__> lol
[09:26] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: You are on Kubuntu now?
[09:26] <don_jr__> yeah
[09:26] <don_jr__> well, kinda
[09:26] <terrestre> ms_ click on this #kubuntu-es
[09:26] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: alt+space -> type kop -> <enter>
[09:26] <DaSkreech> Hi Alonea
[09:27] <don_jr__> this box was originally installed to be ubuntu, I've installed kde and removed gnome from it
[09:27] <terrestre> jajaja katapult, wath that
[09:27] <ms_> Cual era el link al kubuntu en espaol?
[09:27] <terrestre> alt+space nick
[09:27] <terrestre> ms_ click on this #kubuntu-es
[09:27] <Alonea> DaSkreech: hey. well,  my computer just refuses to be nice to me.
[09:27] <Alonea> DaSkreech: cept its windows this time
[09:27] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Send it to bed without any RAM!
[09:28] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: well try the alt+space combo
[09:28] <DaSkreech> !katapult
[09:28] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[09:28] <Alonea> DaSkreech: there are nice volume errors on it too.
[09:28] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Hard drive is dying?
[09:28] <don_jr__> DaSkreech thanks alot, it runs yahoo!
[09:29] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: I know :)
[09:29] <DaSkreech> It does webcam too if you care about such things
[09:29] <Alonea> DaSkreech: dunno. Windows had an odd error on shutdown and now it says missing or corrupted system files.
[09:29] <terrestre> ckatapult, ist very nice, thanks
[09:29] <DaSkreech> Alonea: Hmm it's NTFs I assume?
[09:29] <DaSkreech> terrestre: Welcome
[09:29] <don_jr__> DaSkreech great, I have one on my desktop that I use to speak wiht my grandmother in NC sometimes, so that's goodto know.  nowifonly I can get wine to wrok I can ditch winblows forever!!!
[09:29] <Dunkelschub> Excuse me, could someone point me in the right direction to move my entire Ubuntu installation from one hardrive to another?
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Dunkelschub: dd
[09:30] <Alonea> DaSkreech: yeah. I am gonna try the chkdsk /f and see if it will fix it
[09:30] <DaSkreech> Alonea: okie :-)
[09:30] <Dunkelschub> dd?
[09:30] <Alonea> DaSkreech: but not at this moment...I need to listen to happy music before I take another stab
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Dunkelschub: What are you trying to do
[09:31] <DaSkreech>  I think that the answer will be DD but let me just make sure
[09:31] <don_jr__> Alonea Phillips Craig and Dean sing the greatest happy music ever made! =)
[09:31] <DaSkreech> Alonea: What's your happy music?
[09:31] <Dunkelschub> I have Kubuntu installed on a 10 gig hd currently, I want to move it to a 40gig hd I have
[09:32] <kumamoto> Dunkelschub: use dd
[09:32] <DaSkreech> Dunkelschub: Without reinstalling I assume
[09:32] <kumamoto> to image it from the 10 GB to 40GB
[09:32] <Alonea> DaSkreech: currently. Grindhouse soundtrack. Stagger Lee is stuck in my head
[09:32] <Dunkelschub> ok
[09:33] <don_jr__> I'm trying to use adept now to upgrade to fiesty and it's telling me there's a problem....heh my luck today
[09:34] <don_jr__> and now konqueror won't work, says it's malformatted.....this isn't good
[09:34] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Why are you upgrading to feisty?
[09:34] <kumamoto> don_jr__: don't mind if I ask is feisy better than edgy
[09:34] <DaSkreech> I'm on Feisty
[09:34] <don_jr__> DaSkreech cause I"m an idiot I guess, it screwed stuff up...lol
[09:34] <DaSkreech> It's going to be nice when it's stable
[09:35] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: comfortable with the command line?
[09:35] <Alonea> DaSkreech: *Staggolee , its by Pacific Gas & Electric
[09:35] <don_jr__> now I have to see if I can reverse what ever it was I just did and get rid of it
[09:35] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I'm alright with it, what ya got forme?] 
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Ah Stagger lee is a singer as I recall
[09:35] <DaSkreech> !upgrade
[09:35] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:35] <don_jr__> I've got a konsole open already
[09:35] <DaSkreech> Somethign like ^^^ that but instead of dapper to edgy it's edgy to feisty
[09:37] <vadim> hi2all
[09:37] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: I normally run the dist-upgrade twice
[09:37] <DaSkreech> Just to be sure :-)
[09:39] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I'll do that and thanks alot for the page, it's running now, much easier than using adept!
[09:39] <don_jr__> I hope I can get the latest wine to run after this....the 0.9.9 version available in synoptic is old
[09:39] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Don't worry we are working on it :)
[09:40] <DaSkreech> !wine
[09:40] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:40] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Also visit the winehq.org site
[09:40] <DaSkreech>  they have a ubuntu reop
[09:40] <DaSkreech> repo
[09:40] <LordOfHeat> hi there
[09:40] <LordOfHeat> are there any repositories with ethereal?
[09:41] <don_jr__> DaSkreech yes I've been there and have that repo on my laptop here when I try to run it I get some dependancies erros that I can't figure out
[09:41] <terrestre> !DaSkreech
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daskreech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <DaSkreech> !etheral
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etheral - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <DaSkreech> !ethereal
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ethereal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <DaSkreech> !wireshark
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireshark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <terrestre> !terrestre
[09:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about terrestre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <DaSkreech> !info wireshark
[09:41] <ubotu> wireshark: network traffic analyzer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 545 kB, installed size 1528 kB
[09:42] <DaSkreech> LordOfHeat: That's the Network traffic analyzer/sniffer right?
[09:42] <LordOfHeat> DaSkreech, yes
[09:42] <DaSkreech> LordOfHeat: It's in universe
[09:42] <LordOfHeat> and there is no wireshark in adept
[09:43] <DaSkreech> LordOfHeat: do you have universe enabled?
[09:44] <LordOfHeat> ummm
[09:44] <LordOfHeat> no
[09:44] <DaSkreech> LordOfHeat: Do you know how to enable it?
[09:45] <luis_> hola hace unos minutos instale kubuntu 7.04 no puedo poner el espaol kopete, alguien puede ayudarme
[09:45] <DaSkreech> !es
[09:45] <LordOfHeat> DaSkreech, editing sources.list?
[09:45] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:45] <stdin> can someone help me install Kubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1501? Dapper/Edgy can't detect the Hard disk. Anyone know anything about this?
[09:45] <DaSkreech> LordOfHeat: Sure if you are comfortable with that
[09:46] <terrestre> DaSkreech: do you know what cand mean, read only mode: data base locked when ms_ open adept
[09:46] <DaSkreech> stdin: Are you sure that the disk isn't there?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> !adept crash fix | terrestre
[09:46] <ubotu> terrestre: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[09:46] <terrestre> i love you ubotu
[09:46] <terrestre> hajajaj thanks DaSkreech thanks
[09:47] <don_jr__> wow upgrading to edgy is goign to take some time
[09:47] <stdin> DaSkreech: there is a hard disk there, vista is installed on it, but it isn't detected at all by kubuntu
[09:47] <DaSkreech> stdin: can you mount it?
[09:47] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: I thought you are on edgy
[09:47] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Yeah it's always about a day faster to simply reinstall
[09:47] <stdin> DaSkreech: no, it's not dectected at all, there is no device to mount
[09:48] <DaSkreech> stdin: What are you trying to mount?
[09:48] <stdin> DaSkreech: /dev/hda is the cd drive
[09:48] <DaSkreech>  Most laptops have a /dev/sda1
[09:48] <stdin> DaSkreech: this has nither
[09:48] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I don'thave any blank disks to burn a new install to it.
[09:48] <stdin> DaSkreech: the hard disk just isn't detected at all
[09:48] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Then kick back and chill in here with us
[09:48] <DaSkreech> stdin: Freaky
[09:48] <don_jr__> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu dapper today on my desktop and it's upgrading now.  don't want to start all over again.
[09:49] <DaSkreech> What happens when you open qtparted?
[09:49] <don_jr__> I sure am, on my laptop at the moment here, with my desktop right beside me, now gotta try and get wine running....
[09:49] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Ah. Upgrading to Edgy then to feisty?
[09:49] <stdin> DaSkreech: nothing, no disks detected
[09:49] <DaSkreech> stdin: do you have a sd anything?
[09:49] <mrigns> 
[09:49] <stdin> DaSkreech: it's as if it's no there from kubuntu, tho windows sees it fine
[09:50] <stdin> DaSkreech: no, no /dev/sd* devs
[09:51] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I guess that's the way I'll have to go about it....we'll see how long this takes.
[09:51] <don_jr__> What's the diff between the distro's?  What packages make fiesty or edgy better than dapper?
[09:52] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: essentially they are newer
[09:52] <DaSkreech> older distros are more stable and reliable
[09:52] <DaSkreech>  newer ones have more features and are more exciting
[09:52] <mrigns> feisty = edgy + 0.98
[09:53] <DaSkreech> Well I gotta boogie
[09:53] <LordOfHeat> mrigns, 6.06 is dapper :)
[09:53] <LordOfHeat> not edgy
[09:53] <mrigns> :(
[09:54] <don_jr__> and that +0.98 means nothing to me, it's numbers....that doens't help
[09:54] <Angelogprsx> Ho un problema con l'aggiornameno di Ubuntu,  qui ch eposso chiedere aiuto?
[09:55] <don_jr__> !es
[09:55] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:55] <mrigns> !it | Angelogprsx
[09:55] <ubotu> Angelogprsx: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:55] <DaSkreech> !br
[09:55] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:55] <Angelogprsx> ok!
[09:55] <DaSkreech> For fun :)
[09:55] <mrigns> he spoke italian not spanish
[09:55] <don_jr__> looks very similar, glad you caughtit
[09:55] <terrestre> !ch
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:55] <terrestre> :(
[09:55] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: oh sorry you wouldn't get the joke
[09:55] <terrestre> chineese?
[09:55] <DaSkreech> !cn
[09:55] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[09:55] <terrestre> jajajaja
[09:56] <terrestre> esperanto?
[09:56] <ypsila> kicher
[09:56] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: we call the next version of Ubuntu +1
[09:56] <ypsila> schwbisch!
[09:56] <terrestre> !sp
[09:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <DaSkreech> So after feisty is something we don't know what it's called so it's feisty+1
[09:56] <don_jr__> ahhhh, well that makes a bit more sense
[09:57] <DaSkreech> !feisty
[09:57] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[09:57] <don_jr__> I've got alot to learn about linux it's self, but my understanding was the only difference in distro's were thier native packages
[09:57] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Not the support channel
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Note sorry
[09:57] <vbvb> Device name WAN Miniport (PPPOE)
[09:57] <vbvb> Device Type PPPoE
[09:57] <vbvb> Server Type PPP
[09:57] <vbvb> Transports TCP/IP
[09:57] <vbvb> Authentication MS CHAPV2
[09:57] <vbvb> Compression (none)
[09:57] <vbvb> PPP multilink framing off
[09:57] <vbvb> Server IP address 85.187.175.41
[09:57] <vbvb> Client IP address 85.187.175.4
[09:57] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Yes that's the differene between distros but you were asking about dapper vs feisty
[09:57] <DaSkreech> Those aren't distros
[09:57] <DaSkreech> !paste | vbvb
[09:57] <ubotu> vbvb: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:58] <vbvb> i want imstall the network in kubuntu
[09:58] <chemicalvamp> !paste>vbvb
[09:58] <ypsila> DaSkreech: thx
[09:58] <don_jr__> DaSkreech oh...then what's it considered?
[09:58] <ypsila> don_jr__: versions
[09:58] <mrigns> versions
[09:58] <ypsila> ;-)
[09:58] <DaSkreech> Releases
[09:58] <vbvb> help
[09:59] <DaSkreech> LordOfHeat: are you good?
[09:59] <vbvb> i don t know  how can i solve this problem?
[09:59] <DaSkreech> !network
[09:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:59] <DaSkreech> Hmm :)
[09:59] <don_jr__> Alrighty, I"m sorry if my mind is too logical to understand the simplicity here.  but if the only diff between a distro is it's native packages, then what would be the difference between versions, if not only native packages?
[09:59] <DaSkreech> !dialup
[09:59] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[09:59] <DaSkreech> vbvb: ^^^
[09:59] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: customizations
[10:00] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: each distro normally also has a philosophy
[10:00] <don_jr__> DaSkreech so they change some artwork update the kenrel and all it a new version?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> So though they may have much the same packages the spirit of the distro is different
[10:00] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Some distro's do that yes
[10:01] <LordOfHeat> DaSkreech, yes, updated repositories, and installed ethereal
[10:01] <LordOfHeat> thnx
[10:01] <DaSkreech> LordOfHeat: Good :-) Enjoy
[10:01] <don_jr__> Alrigh, I get the 'flavor' aspect with kde, gnome differences.  which does fiesty come with or is it in 2 places aswell one with gnome one with kde?
[10:01] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: two places
[10:01] <DaSkreech> You can have both if you like
[10:02] <don_jr__> great...I hope I'm getting the KDE version or I"m going to have to do all this over again! lol
[10:02] <don_jr__> I'm doing it from KDE so hopefully that's the files it pulls eh? heh
[10:02] <makuseru> how can i get a computer on the internet? i cant get it to connect
[10:02] <don_jr__> though my original install is ubuntu and I added KDE to it and removed as much of gnome as I thought to be safe.
[10:02] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: That's correct :-)
[10:03] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: did you remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[10:03] <don_jr__> makuseru I finally got online and now you can't? =)
[10:03] <makuseru> no
[10:03] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I believe so, last time I tried it removed nothing so I would guess it's not ther now
[10:03] <makuseru> my lappy wont get on the net
[10:03] <don_jr__> makuseru has it ever been connected before?
[10:03] <chemicalvamp> makuseru on feisty?
[10:03] <makuseru> edgy
[10:03] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Okie :-)
[10:03] <makuseru> never been connected on the machine
[10:04] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: plan on hanging out here for a while?
[10:04] <udrescu> hello ... have a question
[10:04] <don_jr__> makuseru how is it connecting?  wireless or lan?
[10:04] <udrescu> can anyone help me ?
[10:04] <chemicalvamp> fiesty's network is totaly screwed... uses older setup then edgy
[10:04] <don_jr__> DaSkreech probably another couple hours....
[10:04] <makuseru> well how can i get my edgy box up and runnnig?
[10:04] <don_jr__> udrescu just aks bud, if anyone knows we'll try and help.
[10:04] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Oh yeah well I meant in future dayss/weeks :-)
[10:04] <DaSkreech>  You can learn a lot hanging out here
[10:04] <DaSkreech> plus you can bug me :)
[10:04] <DaSkreech> !anyone | udrescu
[10:04] <ubotu> udrescu: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[10:05] <don_jr__> DaSkreech probably, for that reason exactly to learn...and it just downloaded firefox-gnome-support....ugh
[10:05] <udrescu> ok .. i'm a bit new to ubuntu
[10:05] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: did you remove firefox?
[10:05] <udrescu> and i want to add the officials repos
[10:05] <DaSkreech> udrescu: welcome
[10:05] <DaSkreech> You should already have them
[10:05] <udrescu> but i don't know the adresses
[10:05] <don_jr__> DaSkreech no I dont' think I did.....then that means it's not doing it to resetup gnome then...I hope! lol
[10:05] <udrescu> if i'm typing in konsole
[10:05] <udrescu> apt-get install gaim
[10:05] <don_jr__> it just got klogd aswell so that's a pluss  lol
[10:05] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: You can have Gnome applications without having gnome
[10:06] <udrescu> i recive an error :P
[10:06] <udrescu> that it's not in the repo
[10:06] <DaSkreech> udrescu: try sudo apt-get install gaim
[10:06] <makuseru> can anyone help me get a laptop connected to the internet?
[10:06] <udrescu> i'm logged as root :P
[10:06] <don_jr__> makuseru how are you connecting? wireless or lan?
[10:06] <makuseru> don_jr__: lan
[10:06] <don_jr__> udrescu you have all the repo's opened up?
[10:06] <DaSkreech> udrescu: try apt-get update
[10:06] <don_jr__> makuseru what have you tried so far?
[10:07] <vbvb> how can i make the broadband acount?
[10:07] <DaSkreech> udrescu: and you really shouldn't login as root :)
[10:07] <vbvb> don jr:help
[10:07] <makuseru> don_jr__: i dont know what to try, never had a problem with this before
[10:07] <DaSkreech> makuseru: does lshw -C network show your network card?
[10:07] <don_jr__> vbvb that problem is beyond me.
[10:07] <udrescu> DaSkreech: i am logged as udrescu, but in console i've entered the root account
[10:07] <udrescu> via su
[10:07] <DaSkreech> vbvb: make the account?
[10:08] <DaSkreech> vbvb: are you on dialup or a network based internet ?
[10:08] <makuseru> DaSkreech: lemme try
[10:08] <DaSkreech> udrescu: ok
[10:08] <don_jr__> makuseru after you check that, if the card is shown what's the IP and gateway say in ifconfig?
[10:08] <udrescu> DaSkreech: i need the url of the page with the ubuntu repos
[10:08] <udrescu> please...
[10:08] <DaSkreech> !easysource
[10:08] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:08] <DaSkreech> There you go
[10:08] <vbvb> what is wan miniport?
[10:08] <makuseru> don_jr__: my ip and gateway all show up
[10:08] <DaSkreech> Ok I haev to go
[10:08] <DaSkreech> Bye all
[10:08] <don_jr__> makuseru and they are correct?
[10:09] <don_jr__> makuseru then try ping -c4 'gateway' and see if it goes through
[10:09] <don_jr__> makuseru replacing 'gateway' with your gateway ip
[10:09] <vbvb> device name wan miniport
[10:09] <makuseru> don_jr__: alright, just a sec
[10:10] <don_jr__> vbvb are you on a laptop?  A wan port is where you connect one router to another, or a cable modem/dsl modem to the router
[10:10] <don_jr__> vbvb forget what you do in windows to get on.  Is your computer connected to a router, is it lan or wireless?
[10:11] <vbvb> ya
[10:11] <vbvb> lan
[10:11] <don_jr__> okay, do you have access to yoru kubuntu box now?
[10:11] <vbvb> my computer connected with lan
[10:11] <makuseru> don_jr__: "unknown host gateway"
[10:11] <don_jr__> vbvb or is this the box that's dual booted with windows?
[10:12] <don_jr__> makuseru did you replace the word 'gateway' in that command with the ip that shows in your ifconfig for your gateway address?
[10:12] <makuseru> >> oops
[10:12] <makuseru> no
[10:12] <makuseru> hang on
[10:12] <vbvb> i install wixp and kubuntu in my computer
[10:13] <makuseru> don_jr__: its fine
[10:13] <don_jr__> vbvb okay, this is difficult when you cannot look at what kubuntu will say at the same time your talking with me.
[10:13] <don_jr__> vbvb I need to know what kubuntu says when you type in ifconfig in terminal
[10:13] <jhutchins> !paste
[10:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:13] <don_jr__> makuseru if it pinged properly, try to ping an outside source, like www.google.com or something like that
[10:13] <vbvb> don jr ok
[10:14] <reagleBRKLN> i'm running feisty beta, writes to an external usb2 drive with ehci_hcd are horribly slow. ~2s to read 60MB, 50s to write
[10:14] <don_jr__> vbvb and as jhutchins just pointed out, put the output of ifconfig in a pastebin and give us the addy to look at the output.
[10:14] <vbvb> i will enter kubuntu and will tell you
[10:14] <vbvb> please wait
[10:14] <reagleBRKLN> why could that be?
[10:14] <don_jr__> ok
[10:15] <makuseru> don_jr__: what do i use as the IP to ping google?
[10:15] <jhutchins> reagleBRKLN: Are they faster in Edgy?
[10:15] <don_jr__> reagleBRKLN I don't know
[10:15] <reagleBRKLN> jhutchins: yep
[10:15] <don_jr__> makuseru ping -c4 www.google.com    just like that
[10:15] <makuseru> oh ok
[10:15] <reagleBRKLN> i switched to feisty this week, and had been doing pretty good, but when i backed up my data yesterrday... slow
[10:16] <jhutchins> reagleBRKLN: You'll probably get more help in #ubuntu+1 for feisty, but please make sure there's a bugreport on it ASAP.
[10:16] <mefisto__> anyone having slow performance in amarok 1.4.5?
[10:16] <makuseru> don_jr__: unknown host google
[10:16] <reagleBRKLN> jhutchins: thanks for channel
[10:16] <reagleBRKLN> i'm running feisty beta, writes to an external usb2 drive with ehci_hcd are horribly slow. ~2s to read 60MB, 50s to write
[10:16] <reagleBRKLN> oops
[10:16] <jhutchins> makuseru: try 130.57.5.70
[10:17] <don_jr__> makuseru okay, so the computer is connected to the network just can't get out on the internet through the router.  And you've double checked that the modem is online and running into the router properly?
[10:17] <jhutchins> don_jr__: You have not established that, only that he does not have DNS.
[10:17] <makuseru> jhutchins: destination host unreachable
[10:17] <makuseru> don_jr__: yes
[10:17] <jhutchins> Now you have established it.
[10:18] <makuseru> jhutchins: established what
[10:18] <don_jr__> jhutchins okay then.
[10:18] <don_jr__> makuseru that you cannot get out of your local network
[10:18] <jhutchins> don_jr__: May I point out that he is chatting here, so I'm betting the modem's working.
[10:18] <udrescu> huge thanks dude...
[10:18] <udrescu> it worked
[10:18] <makuseru> jhutchins: ya, it works fine on my PC which is on the router
[10:18] <don_jr__> jhutchins thanks....forgive my mind for not catching everything.....I'm just goin through what my mind comes up with next....
[10:18] <udrescu> indeed ubuntu has the best community ever seen!!!
[10:19] <makuseru> so what can i do to fix it/
[10:20] <don_jr__> makuseru I'm lookin around, not sure right off the top of my head
[10:20] <makuseru> don_jr__: thank you very much
[10:20] <sdf_> don-jr:hi
[10:21] <sdf_> i enter kubutu and i found the irc
[10:21] <mefisto__> is anyone using amarok 1.4.5?
[10:21] <dell190> how can i make my Windows Laptop work with my Linux Desktop
[10:21] <sdf_> don jr
[10:21] <don_jr__> sdf_ this is? vbvb?
[10:22] <sdf_> you wait me
[10:22] <sdf_> ya
[10:22] <don_jr__> dell190 what do you mean 'work with'?
[10:22] <sdf_> i m
[10:22] <makuseru> dell190: samba
[10:22] <sdf_> don jr
[10:22] <sdf_> please
[10:22] <dell190> Direct CAT5 Connection
[10:22] <don_jr__> sdf_ if you are on irc in kubuntu then it is connected to the internet...what help do you need?
[10:22] <makuseru> dell190: samba
[10:22] <sdf_> when i use konquerro
[10:23] <dell190> whats that?
[10:23] <sdf_> give me error
[10:23] <don_jr__> dell190 yes, use samba or some other ftp server/client type to transfer files
[10:23] <don_jr__> sdf_ what does the error say?
[10:23] <makuseru> !sambe @ dell190
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sambe @ dell190 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <makuseru> !samba @ dell190
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about samba @ dell190 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <dell190> where do i get it?
[10:23] <makuseru> since when does ubotu not know about samba
[10:23] <makuseru> !Samba
[10:23] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:23] <makuseru> there we go
[10:24] <sdf_> could not connect to host proxy           at port
[10:24] <makuseru> don_jr__: any ideas on my situation?
[10:24] <don_jr__> makuseru I'm still digging, havn't gave up yet
[10:24] <makuseru> don_jr__: houray!
[10:26] <emoXcore> spainsh???
[10:26] <emoXcore> hey
[10:26] <mefisto__> how do I downgrade software I've recently upgraded?
[10:26] <emoXcore> help
[10:26] <emoXcore> spanish
[10:26] <don_jr__> makuseru you on fiesty or edgy?
[10:26] <don_jr__> !es
[10:26] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:26] <makuseru> don_jr__: edgy
[10:27] <sdf_> do jr:error?
[10:27] <jhutchins> mefisto__: I think the howto has something about that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[10:27] <don_jr__> sdf_ I'm not sure just yet, what irc client are you using??
[10:27] <mefisto__> thanks jhutchins
[10:27] <jhutchins> mefisto__: If nothing else, remove it and re-install the specific version.
[10:27] <emoXcore> Hey!! helpme I want to change my softwarw
[10:29] <sdf_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[10:29] <sdf_> when i enter this web site
[10:30] <sdf_> it  enter
[10:30] <emoXcore> n,n ok
[10:30] <emoXcore> thak's boy
[10:30] <sdf_> and when i enter http://www.google.com
[10:30] <don_jr__> jhutchins what is the file that holds the etho0 cinfigurations??
[10:30] <sdf_> not enter
[10:30] <sdf_> whey
[10:30] <sdf_> ?
[10:30] <xcodsterx> how do i get pop-ups to work? on mozilla firefox kubuntu
[10:30] <emoXcore> n..n
[10:30] <xcodsterx> liek i want them to show
[10:30] <don_jr__> sdf_ it could be that google is down right now, and/or your network has it blocked?
[10:31] <sdf_> i don t understand what do you mean?
[10:31] <don_jr__> makuseru I have an idea, I'm just not sure where to find the file just yet.....once we can find it I'll have something else for you to check.
[10:31] <makuseru> don_jr__: alright!
[10:32] <don_jr__> sdf_ the google site may be down, or one of the routers yoru packets have to go through to get to it, or your local network may have it blocked.  Try another sight and see what happens
[10:32] <sdf_>  ok
[10:32] <xcodsterx> nvm i figured it out
[10:32] <cosmo_> how do I install a tar.gz file?
[10:33] <makuseru> !tar.gz
[10:33] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[10:33] <sdf_> http://www.altavista.com
[10:33] <xcodsterx> would i beable to run msn on kubuntu
[10:33] <don_jr__> makuseru pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please
[10:33] <sdf_> whaeni enter this websit
[10:33] <sdf_> don t enter
[10:33] <makuseru> don_jr__: is it long?
[10:34] <sdf_> and appear the same error
[10:34] <makuseru> don_jr__: i dont wanna type out alot since i cant get anything off the laptop <<
[10:34] <xcodsterx> can msn messneger run in kubuntu?
[10:34] <makuseru> xcodsterx: use Gaim
[10:34] <chijin> xcodsterx: try kopete, it has msn
[10:34] <xcodsterx> its bad
[10:34] <don_jr__> makuseru no it shouldn't be, you can just /query me and put it in there if you'd like, or do that and we can talk there about what I"m specifically looking for
[10:34] <xcodsterx> no cam support
[10:34] <chijin> makuseru: gaim would need gtk libraries and be a waste of resources..
[10:34] <chijin> makuseru: it's a gnome app
[10:35] <Underruner> run msn in wine
[10:35] <makuseru> chijin: its better than kopete
[10:35] <don_jr__> Darn it, anyone here upgraded from dapper to edgy manually through console?
[10:35] <makuseru> i did
[10:35] <xcodsterx> where do i get "wine"?
[10:35] <mrigns> !ping
[10:35] <nrg88> xcodsterx: how about kmess?
[10:35] <ubotu> pong
[10:35] <nrg88> it's a beautiful msn client for kde
[10:35] <xcodsterx> i need something that will suprot camera
[10:35] <xcodsterx> web cam*
[10:35] <don_jr__> it's asking me to configure console-setup and there's a bunch of choices, I'm not sure which to choose....
[10:36] <nrg88> hm
[10:36] <nrg88> well, gaim doesn't support webcamera
[10:36] <don_jr__> xcodsterx try kopete
[10:36] <nrg88> neither do kmess
[10:36] <nrg88> kopete does
[10:36] <xcodsterx> i tried kopete but it wont let me view the other persons cam
[10:37] <nrg88> which version of kopete are you using?
[10:37] <sdf_> don jr:how can i do?
[10:38] <sdf_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[10:38] <sdf_> what is  https?
[10:38] <xcodsterx> im not sure? what ver. i am using kubuntu 6.06 so it must be old?
[10:38] <sdf_> in first of website
[10:38] <xcodsterx> maybe
[10:38] <nrg88> xcodsterx: yes, i think it's a bit old :|
[10:39] <xcodsterx> lol where do i update or download a new ver?
[10:39] <nrg88> the kopete developers have recently improved the msn webcam support for kopete i think
[10:39] <xcodsterx> thats good
[10:39] <xcodsterx> butwhere do i get it
[10:39] <don_jr__> sdf_ http stands for hyper text transfer protocol, almost all websites use that unless it's ftp or something else.  that should automatically go in when you type in an address and hit enter.
[10:39] <nrg88> guys, does xcodsterx need kde 3.5.6 in order to install kopete 0.12.4 ?
[10:39] <xcodsterx> my other nickname was death_slayer but i updatded my kubuntu with adept and crashed so i had to reinstall it
[10:40] <xcodsterx> whast kde3.5.6 i know its the desktop but why do i have to update it in order to use kopete?
[10:41] <nrg88> i'm afraid kde 3.5.6 is not available on 6.06
[10:41] <sdf_> don jr:it the first time to use kubuntu        can you give me website to download programms and songs
[10:41] <sdf_> ?
[10:41] <flavia> hi, are there other programs besides wengophone which I can use to connect to a wengophone account?
[10:41] <xcodsterx> i think i know what's wrong with that guy not loading up google if he is using firefox or using a addin it sometimes blocks google.com i saw this on call for help
[10:41] <xcodsterx> lol
[10:42] <don_jr__> sdf_ that I can't do.  to find music you'll need a program like mule or limewire, as for programs, search adept for the ones you want
[10:42] <sdf_> and how can i install any program in kubuntu
[10:42] <mike1980> HI guys I am getting this error when starting proftpd " IPv6 getaddrinfo 'LAMP.phub.net.cable.rogers.com' error: Name or service not known
[10:43] <don_jr__> what is the commnd to shut off ath0 and turn it back on?  something like ifno auth0?? please!
[10:43] <nrg88> xcodsterx: can you please check what version of kde are you using?
[10:43] <supernix> Well I changed all the dapper refs in the source.list to edgy and did the full upgrade using Adept so hope all goes well
[10:44] <xcodsterx> how do i check?
[10:44] <supernix> I use the ATI video card so I hope it does not fail to be recognized after the reboot and update
[10:44] <xcodsterx> hwo do i check KDE?
[10:45] <nrg88> well, in a KDE application, you click on Help and then About KDE
[10:45] <xcodsterx> okay
[10:45] <xcodsterx> 3.5.2
[10:45] <xcodsterx> KDE 3.5.2
[10:45] <don_jr__> sdf_ installing programs is easiest through adept or synaptic, other than that you can sometimes find .deb files that will install a lil easier, than the other alternative..compiling them yourself.
[10:46] <nrg88> you might want to upgrade your kde version to 3.5.5: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[10:46] <sdf_>  sorry i didn t understand any thing from your speech
[10:46] <xcodsterx> nrg88: he i have kde 3.5.2
[10:47] <xcodsterx> thanx
[10:47] <terrestre> !spca55xx
[10:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spca55xx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:47] <nrg88> yw
[10:48] <sdf_> what about antivirus for kubuntu?
[10:48] <nrg88> sdf_: for what?
[10:49] <sdf_> i want antivirus program for kubuntu?
[10:49] <sdf_> i want install anntivirus
[10:49] <nrg88> i understand
[10:49] <nonuda> what is the apt-get command to fix a broken packages?
[10:49] <Cereza> I   dont know to use  kubuntuu?
[10:49] <nrg88> i think clamav, it looks for windows viruses i think
[10:50] <sdf_> i want program for runing the mp3 files
[10:50] <don_jr__> sdf_ there's anot alot of virus' that hit linux..but I"m sure they've got something
[10:50] <sdf_> mp3 files in kubuntu
[10:51] <don_jr__> sdf_ kubuntu already has a couple things that run mp3's like Amorok
[10:51] <apokryphos> sdf_: please take a look at the FAQ <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions> as linked to in the channel /topic
[10:51] <Underruner> u should just reinstall windows
[10:52] <xcodsterx> does anyone know where i can get wine?
[10:52] <jhutchins> nonuda: apt-get -f install
[10:52] <Dunkelschub> xcodsterx: sudo apt-get install wine
[10:52] <nonuda> ok thanks
[10:52] <don_jr__> xcodsterx www.winehq.org I believe
[10:53] <jhutchins> !mp3 | sdf
[10:53] <ubotu> sdf: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:53] <don_jr__> Dunkelschub last time I tried that it gave me an older release than what's on the stie.
[10:53] <jhutchins> don_jr__: codeweavers will always have a newer relese on their site.
[10:54] <don_jr__> jhutchins right, so get the newer one eh?
[10:54] <reagleBRKLN> ok, reported my external usb2 copy problem, appears to be the automount sync, which was not the default in edgy
[10:54] <reagleBRKLN> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/104241
[10:55] <dell190> How can i set up a network on kubuntu..
[10:55] <reagleBRKLN> i know, if people weren't careful, they could loose data, but how do I set the default automount back to async in kubuntu?
[10:55] <sdf_> do jr:amarok do t play mp3 file
[10:55] <sdf_> ?????????
[10:56] <michelyn> aii could someone please help me set up this file please
[10:56] <xcodsterx> so wich one do i download for kubuntu 6.06? http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[10:56] <michelyn> it is secondlife
[10:56] <michelyn> but its a tar.bz2 file
[10:56] <terrestre> Cereza: jaja hi
[10:57] <jhutchins> don_jr__: You've seen the factoid about newer isn't always better.
[10:57] <dell190> anyone???
[10:57] <don_jr__> jhutchins if dhcp will not auto set and the static ip's and gateways only allow local network connection, how can you get out past the router? any ideas?
[10:57] <jhutchins> sdf_: If you're not going to read what we send you we won't be able to help you.
[10:58] <fdoving> reagleBRKLN: have a look at /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi
[10:58] <don_jr__> jhutchins no it's not, but a coupleof the programs I tried to run on wine wouldn't run with the odler version that I got from synoptic, but will run with thenewer version from the site....so it's only my preference.
[10:58] <michelyn> how do i install the tar.bz2 file for the secondlife program on kubuntu
[10:58] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Possibly you need to set the route manually.
[10:58] <sdf_> don jr:help please
[10:58] <don_jr__> how so?
[10:59] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Well, it's entirely up to you.  That's the great thing about linux.
[10:59] <reagleBRKLN> fdoving: thanks, checking it out
[10:59] <don_jr__> sdf_ Amorok won't play mp3's?
[10:59] <jhutchins> !build | michael
[10:59] <ubotu> michael: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:59] <jhutchins> !build | michelyn
[10:59] <ubotu> michelyn: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:59] <jhutchins> Sometimes the bot's smarter about that...
[11:00] <sdf_> how acn i download any file
[11:00] <michelyn> well the thing is that the program is an alpha and linux is the only os that i could get on this laptop
[11:00] <don_jr__> how wouldI go about manually setting the route?
[11:00] <sdf_> and all files with extension rmp and gz
[11:00] <michelyn> cause xp would not go
[11:00] <fdoving> reagleBRKLN: i belive the idea is to have async as the default. that might have changed.. i don't track those changes. but i recall it was discussed before edgy.
[11:00] <don_jr__> sdf_ same as you would anywhere else, findit on the website and click download
[11:00] <sdf_> what is it?
[11:00] <michelyn> and seconlife doesnt support vista
[11:01] <don_jr__> sdf_ rpm is for redhat, I don't know how to impliment them in kubuntu, and .gz files are compressed, similar to zip in windows
[11:01] <reagleBRKLN> fdoving: async was causing people to loose data, so maybe they flipped it, now i have to figure otu how to flip it back
[11:01] <kumamoto> don_jr__: still need help on the route thingie
[11:01] <jhutchins> michelyn: So read the page about compiling software.  Untar the file and read the README.
[11:01] <michelyn> how to untar
[11:01] <fdoving> reagleBRKLN: i belive the rationale for having async was that some flash devices simply were worn out way too fast.
[11:02] <fdoving> reagleBRKLN: with sync that is.
[11:02] <don_jr__> kumamoto not me, but someone else I"m trying to help.  what I did to get mine runningdidin't work for them
[11:02] <fdoving> !tar | michelyn
[11:02] <ubotu> michelyn: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[11:02] <michelyn> i have it in ark
[11:03] <don_jr__> All I had to do was set the iface eth0 inet dhcp....before it ended in static, once I changed it to dhcp it worked fine...didn't work for this guy....
[11:03] <sdf_> don jr: what are the extensions for the files that run in kubuntu?
[11:03] <michelyn> but now what do i do
[11:03] <don_jr__> sdf_ There arn't any specifically.  gz files are usually compressed source files you will have to manually compile and install, .deb files can be extracted and auto installed for the most part, it's best to just search in adept or synaptic for what you want and get it from there.
[11:04] <kumamoto> sdf_: there are no specific file extensions for kubuntu (don't mind me answering that)
[11:04] <fdoving> !software | sdf_
[11:04] <ubotu> sdf_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[11:04] <don_jr__> jhutchins can you direct me to a site or channel that can help me to figure out how to manually route the network?
[11:04] <fdoving> don_jr__: what's your network problem?
[11:04] <terrestre> someone using a 0ac8:305b Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. webcam?
[11:04] <terrestre> !webcam
[11:04] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:04] <kumamoto> don_jr__: route add default gw <IPADDR>
[11:05] <don_jr__> fdoving well, it's not mine, it's makuseru's problem.  He's having trouble getting out.
[11:05] <don_jr__> kumamoto his default gateway is correct, he has access to the local network, just no dhcp to get past the router
[11:05] <terrestre> !easycam2
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easycam2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <xcodsterx> how do i install wine i am add the respotories but it says there is an error with the apckages trhew adet?
[11:05] <don_jr__> dsn
[11:05] <jhutchins> don_jr__: I've seen someone trying to troubleshoot a similar issue, and they haven't resolved it.  Wireless is still unstable and unpredictible.
[11:05] <xcodsterx> adept*
[11:05] <superkirbyartist> !stepmania
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stepmania - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <kumamoto> is his router giving him dhcp offers
[11:06] <xcodsterx> !wine
[11:06] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[11:06] <don_jr__> jhutchins he's connected via cat5 cable, not wireless
[11:06] <fdoving> don_jr__: if the default gateway is correct, and he can ping it, then everything should work, and it's all up to the router to handle the rest.
[11:06] <don_jr__> kumamoto no, that's the error he got when he changed it from static to dhcp, no offers
[11:06] <kumamoto> don_jr__: bad
[11:06] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Pretty strange, could be flaky hardware, bad driver.
[11:07] <kumamoto> if his internal network is setup as static it should remain static
[11:07] <don_jr__> kumamoto so that's a problem with teh router.  The odd part is that his desktop can get on wired, but not the laptop.
[11:07] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Could be he's got pppoe and needs to log in to get out.
[11:07] <asaup> what can i use to mount a .img file
[11:07] <kumamoto> laptop wireless?
[11:07] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Could be the router doesn't do nat and he only gets one IP.
[11:08] <don_jr__> kumamoto no he's hardwired with the laptop aswell
[11:08] <kumamoto> asaup: use a image viewer
[11:08] <don_jr__> jhutchins dind't think of that.....can test that though, shut down the desktop and static set the laptop IP to the desktops IP to find out couldn't ya?
[11:08] <kumamoto> is the desktop static or dhcp
[11:08] <don_jr__> kumamoto not sure, I'll check
[11:09] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Hard to say, could be linked to the MAC, it's hard to know what a windows box is actually doing.
[11:09] <asaup> kumamoto: i want something to mount .img not to view image files
[11:09] <don_jr__> they are both kubuntu
[11:10] <jhutchins> don_jr__: SOme cable modems will lock in the mac of the computer, they need to be reset.  Some systems actually log the mac centrally and you have to contact Customer Support to change PC's.
[11:10] <sdf_> how can i install gz file?
[11:10] <don_jr__> kumamoto I'm finding out if the desktop is static or dhcp now.
[11:10] <kumamoto> asaup: again use an image viewer
[11:10] <jhutchins> sdf_: Better to wait until you're a little more familiar with linux.
[11:10] <kumamoto> that will 'mount' an .img file
[11:11] <jhutchins> asaup: Helps to know what the file came from.
[11:11] <kumamoto> sdf_: gz files are not install there are unzipped
[11:11] <don_jr__> kumamoto the desktop is dhcp enabled
[11:11] <don_jr__> not static
[11:11] <asaup> its an iso file but the format is img
[11:11] <kumamoto> ah
[11:12] <asaup> you know what i mean its a backup of a cd
[11:12] <kumamoto> damn
[11:12] <jhutchins> sdf_: You will have better luck if you stick to packages that are available within ubuntu until you're more familiar.
[11:12] <sdf_> how can i unzib it?
[11:12] <jhutchins> !software | sdf_
[11:12] <ubotu> sdf_: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[11:12] <don_jr__> jhutchins, kumamoto, cable modem, with a dlink router....so the cable modem locking the mac may be it....not sure
[11:13] <kumamoto> don_jr__: again static or dhcp
[11:13] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Ok, the dlink router should be doing dhcp then, perhaps he should look at the router settings.  Perhaps the port is bad, he should try the known good port.  Perhaps he should try swapping cables.
[11:13] <don_jr__> kumamoto what ya mean? the router or the modem??  his desktop, that runs kubuntu and is online just fine is dhcp, when the laptop was set from static to dhcp it won't work.
[11:14] <x_link> Hi.
[11:14] <x_link> Just installed Kubuntu 6.10, it worked this time.
[11:14] <x_link> Can I not have KControl in my K Menu?
[11:14] <kumamoto> the router is it provide dhcp or setup statically
[11:14] <x_link> I don't want to use System Menu
[11:14] <alberique> hi
[11:14] <don_jr__> kumamoto it must provide dhcp if the desktop is using dhcp through it right now eh?
[11:15] <kumamoto> yah
[11:15] <mehdi> hey everybody
[11:15] <don_jr__> he is changing ports and cables right now to see if it's an issue there.  then I'll step into the router settings next
[11:15] <kumamoto> so if his /etc/network/interface has iface set to dhcp then have him run /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:15] <ubuntu> i use norton ghost 7 to make backups. i just backuped a linux ext3 partition . got pretty good. but when i tried to paste it on a linux partition. i every time get the error "read sector error" what can i do . please help.
[11:16] <alberique> >
[11:16] <dell190> can someone tell me if there is a network setup wizard in kubuntu?
[11:16] <don_jr__> kumamoto I'll do that, we did and ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 but didn't restart the entire networking...we'll give it a shot next.
[11:16] <kumamoto> dell190: there is one call knetworkmanager
[11:16] <don_jr__> when he did the ifup eth0 it came back with no dhcpoffers
[11:16] <michelyn> ok i have the tar untar and is on desktop
[11:16] <dell190> kumamoto: where can i get that?
[11:17] <kumamoto> apt-get
[11:17] <michelyn> the read me says to run ./secondlife
[11:17] <kumamoto> mamoto, cable modem, with a dlink router....so the cable modem locking the mac may be it....not sure
[11:17] <reagleBRKLN> fdoving: once I edit preferences.fdi, do I have to restart hal or something?
[11:17] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Ok, the dlink router should be doing dhcp then, perhaps he should look at the router settings.  Perhaps the port is bad, he should try the known good port.  Perhaps he should try swapping cables.
[11:17] <michelyn> but under the run command it doesnt happen
[11:17] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Contact Norton tech support.
[11:18] <kumamoto> don_jr__: is the router connected to a switch or directly to the laptop?
[11:18] <don_jr__> jhutchins he is swapping cables and ports now, when he get's back we'll check it again and if no changes we'll try the networking restart.
[11:18] <don_jr__> kumamoto driect
[11:18] <kumamoto> could be asking the obvious here
[11:18] <michelyn> how do i get this thing installed
[11:18] <kumamoto> then u need a cross connect cable
[11:18] <don_jr__> kumamoto I've never used a crossover cable to connect to a router....
[11:19] <kumamoto> don_jr__: wait is one of those router/switch all in one?
[11:19] <fdoving> reagleBRKLN: yeah, it can't hurt to do that. note that it might bring down your network and similar. 'sudo /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal restart'
[11:19] <reagleBRKLN> ah, /etc/init.d/dbus restart
[11:19] <don_jr__> kumamoto yes, all in one
[11:20] <fdoving> yeah, you can restart the whole dbus, that will restart quite some more stuff though..
[11:20] <ubuntu> jhutchins: no use. can you tell where to get the latest version of norton ghost?
[11:20] <kumamoto> don_jr__: damn I am so used to my home mad router i forget others
[11:20] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Wal-Mart?
[11:20] <mel_kuki> hi all
[11:20] <x_link> I just installed Kubuntu, is there any repo I should add or something?
[11:20] <kumamoto> don_jr__: check and make Sure that the dhcp server in the router is providing more than one IPADDR
[11:21] <jhutchins> !software | x_link
[11:21] <ubotu> x_link: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[11:21] <x_link> jhutchins: I installed the oem way
[11:21] <x_link> Does that matter?
[11:22] <ubuntu> jhutchins: i think ghost 9
[11:22] <inanimate> Adept keeps saying "A new version of Kubuntu is available. Click "Next" to upgrade." But 'next' is grayed out?
[11:23] <superkirbyartist> How can I emulate a right mouse click?
[11:23] <jhutchins> x_link: Don't know what that means, but no it shouldn't matter, kubuntu is kubuntu as far as I know.
[11:23] <x_link> jhutchins: hehe ok thanks!
[11:23] <anti_pop> how can i scan for bad sectors on my HD ?
[11:23] <jhutchins> inanimate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[11:24] <x_link> jhutchins: I'm pretty new with GNU/Linux, so sorry if I ask to much.
[11:24] <don_jr__> kumamoto how do I check that? I can get to the setup page but where will it say what IP's it will give out?  And, there were 5 winblows boxes connected to it yesterday
[11:24] <jhutchins> anti_pop: fsck, the equivalent of chkdsk.  You should probably read the man page for it first.
[11:24] <mel_kuki> i do have a problem with the adept manager. version upgrade is not working with the upgrade wirzard. error : could not download the release announcements. internet connection is up and running. any ideas ?
[11:25] <jhutchins> x_link: No problem.  Everybody starts somewhere.
[11:25] <kumamoto> don_jr__: that I wouldn't know I haven't dealt with dlinks
[11:25] <mel_kuki> no useful information in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ *.log
[11:25] <ubuntu> jhutchins: what is wal mart?
[11:25] <x_link> jhutchins: Yes =)
[11:25] <x_link> hrmm
[11:25] <inanimate> jhutchins: You mean just forget about Adept and run dist-upgrade?
[11:25] <x_link> Doesn Kubuntu have VLC or Firestarter in it's repository?
[11:25] <jhutchins> ubuntu: World's Largest discount store chain.
[11:25] <anti_pop> jhutchins: is there a GUI for fsck availble ?
[11:26] <kumamoto> x_link: yeah it has
[11:26] <don_jr__> great konqueror wont' work on my desktop now....I'm going to have to start all over again......annoying
[11:26] <conanm4> vlc is in the repos
[11:26] <kumamoto> or u can get from vlc site
[11:26] <x_link> kumamoto: apt-get install vlc or apt-get install firestarter doesn't work.
[11:26] <jhutchins> inanimate: Work around it from the console, yes.
[11:26] <ubuntu> jhutchins:  why did you gave the name to me
[11:26] <conanm4> they might be turned off
[11:26] <kumamoto> x_link: sudo apt-cache search vlc
[11:26] <jhutchins> ubuntu: Norton Ghost is a commercial program.  You buy it.  You don't get free, volunteer support for it.
[11:26] <conanm4> check in adept by going to manage repositories
[11:27] <ubuntu> can any body tell how can i paste a .gho file image to my partition. i used norton ghost but its giving read sector error. do i have any other software choice?\
[11:27] <x_link> kumamoto: I did that
[11:27] <kumamoto> conanm4: it won't appear I had the same problem
[11:27] <kumamoto> what u see
[11:27] <jhutchins> anti_pop: No idea, besides which you'll want to be able to unmount the partition anyway.
[11:27] <x_link> oem@sedde:~$ sudo apt-cache search vlc
[11:27] <x_link> oem@sedde:~$
[11:27] <kumamoto> x_link: also try sudo aptitude search vlc
[11:27] <sdf_> i can t use adept to install programms  what do i do?
[11:27] <jhutchins> !info vlc
[11:27] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[11:28] <x_link> oem@sedde:~$ sudo aptitude search vlc
[11:28] <x_link> oem@sedde:~$
[11:28] <pollyo> Hello
[11:28] <x_link> kumamoto: It doesn't find anything at all.
[11:28] <conanm4> so can you even open adept or does it give you an error?
[11:29] <don_jr__> I can burn an iso with kubuntu right?
[11:29] <mel_kuki> am i the only on with the problem "version upgrade error" -> fetchy. There is nothing to find in the www.
[11:29] <sdf_> and how can i update          adept
[11:29] <yuriy> don_jr__: yes, with k3b
[11:29] <sdf_> ?????
[11:30] <jhutchins> sdf_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto
[11:30] <pollyo> Does linux have an application like dvdshrink (for windows)?  I've tried some dvd programs but they do not appear to work as fast or as good as the windows program.
[11:31] <don_jr__> Okay, I"m on firefox I try to download an ISO and it opens it in a new window instead of downloading, how can I fix this?
[11:31] <x_link> Strange
[11:31] <kumamoto> x_link: trying to find the repo
[11:31] <georgeb> !xgl
[11:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:31] <georgeb> !beryl
[11:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:32] <jhutchins> pollyo: Yes, more than one (as with everything linux).
[11:32] <pollyo> I've heard some reports that compiz and beryl may be working together to create a single application.
[11:32] <jhutchins> There's k9copy, but there are others.
[11:32] <x_link> kumamoto: I don't know where to look.
[11:32] <jhutchins> polly: Beryl is a fork of compiz due to disagreements with Novell/SuSE developers.
[11:32] <pollyo> jhutchins: I've tried k9copy and k3b and they appear to operate much slower.  Do you have any suggestions?
[11:32] <superkirbyartist> How can I emulate a right click?
[11:33] <reagleBRKLN> hrmmm... i editing my preferences.fdi but now i don't get an automount at all... maybe should reboot...?
[11:33] <jhutchins> pollyo: Nope, haven't tried it personally, but you can look on sourceforge and freshmeat and google.
[11:33] <pollyo> jhutchins: There have been some articles online stating that the two groups may work together and work out the differences.
[11:34] <kumamoto> x_link: damn I know I edited some repos in the /etc/apt/sources.list and also add the repo from vlc.com
[11:34] <georgeb> !feisty
[11:34] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[11:34] <superkirbyartist> I have an iMac.  There is no way for me to do a right click.  Is there a keyboard shortcut?
[11:34] <pollyo> !vlc
[11:34] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:34] <jhutchins> pollyo: There are some dramatic difference in speeds for various transcoders.  mplayer's usually an important part.
[11:34] <don_jr__> why is it when I click to download a file it opens it in the browser instead of downloading?
[11:34] <yuriy> don_jr__: umm.. save target as? it should be opening it with k3b..
[11:34] <jhutchins> pollyo: tovid for remastering.
[11:34] <kumamoto> x_link: can u find mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:35] <kumamoto> or libvlc0
[11:35] <don_jr__> yuriy I tried that, right click only gives me save link as, not save target....
[11:35] <x_link> kumamoto: hrmm. why can't I right click --> Create --> New folder ?
[11:35] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Incorrect mime type on the webserver.
[11:35] <x_link> I can do that on my second hdd, but not the hdd that I installed Kubuntu on.
[11:35] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Save link as should save the target.
[11:35] <yuriy> don_jr__: save link as is firefox speak for the same thing
[11:35] <snook353> i made a fat32 partition, but ubuntu says it has a problem with fstar and mtab.  here's my fstab file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14455/
[11:35] <snook353> *fstab
[11:36] <don_jr__> okay, well I found anotehr mirror that is allowing me to download it properly
[11:36] <x_link> kumamoto: No, it doesn't find mozilla-plugin-vlc either.
[11:36] <x_link> I will switch back to my other distro, I can't find any of the programs that I like/use.
[11:37] <jhutchins> snook353: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions will have useful information for you.
[11:37] <snook353> thanks
[11:37] <x_link> I will get 2 PIII computers next week, I will install Kubuntu 6.10 then again.
[11:37] <terrestre> !ls
[11:37] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:37] <pollyo> jhutchins: What is tovid?  A library or an application?
[11:38] <don_jr__> I'm downloading edgy now, I goofed up trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy things are all goofed up now...heh
[11:38] <jhutchins> polly: A collection of scripts verging on being an application.
[11:38] <pollyo> jhutchins: Is that in the repos by default or should I look it up on google?
[11:39] <jhutchins> !find tovid
[11:39] <ubotu> Package/file tovid does not exist in edgy
[11:39] <pollyo> jhutchins: I'll check adept I have feisty installed.
[11:40] <pollyo> jhutchins: Thanks.  If I do not find it there then I'll google it.
[11:40] <jhutchins> pollyo: Too bad, other distros have it, but it's good to run the SVN version anyway: http://tovid.wikia.com
[11:40] <pollyo> jhutchins: Thanks for the link.
[11:40] <jhutchins> pollyo: Also look in usenet newsgroups for discussions.
[11:40] <reagleBRKLN> fdoving: rebooted, automount happens, but it's still sync, oh well...
[11:41] <jhutchins> reagleBRKLN: Can you set that in fstab?
[11:41] <reagleBRKLN> that assumes I know which sd{b,f,g} it ends up at, right?
[11:41] <reagleBRKLN> can't do that
[11:41] <jhutchins> Time to go bother the horses.
[11:42] <fdoving> reagleBRKLN: you can hack /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy... something then.
[11:42] <fdoving> reagleBRKLN: weird that the etc ones didn't override that.. though. i'm not 100% up2date on this.
[11:43] <reagleBRKLN> well, i'll just remount it i suppose, and see what happens with the bug... if there is a change in feisty, its' a big one
[11:43] <terrestre> !ln
[11:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:45] <pollyo> Anyone know if a debian package for (k)ubuntu edgy will work fine on a feisty?
[11:46] <luis_> ola
[11:46] <don_jr__> !es
[11:46] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:46] <kkerwin> Hmm. What viewer opens .docbook files.
[11:47] <don_jr__> I'm updating from ubuntu dapper, from within the KDE konsole, will it update and install kubuntu from there or is it going to do gnome and kde alike?
[11:47] <letynsoft> hi i have problem... i were updating when my PC fallen (electric fallen) and now i can't run any install / updates... can i fix it?
[11:48] <kumamoto> did x_link disappear
[11:48] <kumamoto> found vlc repo for him http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-ubuntu.html
[11:48] <letynsoft> which?
[11:49] <letynsoft> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[11:49] <don_jr__> and did you run that?
[11:50] <letynsoft> ok... trying...
[11:52] <jhutchins> !adeptfix | letynsoft
[11:52] <ubotu> letynsoft: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:53] <don_jr__> How can I remove gnome completely from my computer?  I installed with ubuntu and then I've installed KDE into it, how can I get rid of gnome now?
[11:53] <letynsoft> ok thanks... i'll try
[11:53] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Do a clean install of kubuntu?
[11:53] <kumamoto> don_jr__: just a hunch sudo aptitude purge gnome
[11:54] <letynsoft> ha.. it works now... really thanks a lot :)
[11:54] <kumamoto> true could do a complete kubuntu install from scratch
[11:54] <don_jr__> jhutchins I'm downloading kubuntu edgy now to do that with my desktop, but don't want to wipe and reinstall on my laptop if I can keep from it.
[11:54] <don_jr__> Kumamoto I'll try that
[11:55] <don_jr__> unable to lock the administration directory
[11:56] <don_jr__> and could not get /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 process' temporarily unavailable
[11:56] <don_jr__> gave me those 2 lines when I tried to sudo aptitude purge gnome
[11:57] <Cereza> spanish
[11:57] <emoXcore> spanish???
[11:57] <don_jr__> !es
[11:57] <emoXcore> hey?
[11:57] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:57] <emoXcore> oks
[11:58] <malakoff> hi
[11:58] <emoXcore> thanks you
[11:58] <emoXcore> _
[11:58] <don_jr__> de nada
[11:58] <malakoff> I have now sound on my fresh kubuntu installation, but it worked from the livecd.
[11:58] <raffytaffy> hdparm on my /dev/hdb ( cdrom ) gives me this  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[11:58] <raffytaffy> ??
[11:59] <malakoff> The configuration in the sound center is the same.
[11:59] <raffytaffy> any idea as to what it means
[11:59] <malakoff> What should I look for ?
[11:59] <kumamoto> raffytaffy: got a cd int he cdrom
[11:59] <malakoff> lsmod | grep sound returns soundcore
[11:59] <raffytaffy> no cd in there
[11:59] <raffytaffy> i turned dma on and IO_support   =  3 (32-bit w/sync)
[12:00] <kumamoto> no cd to test hdparm with
[12:00] <raffytaffy> to speed up my burns
[12:00] <raffytaffy> ahh ok
[12:00] <raffytaffy> gotcha
[12:00] <kumamoto> don't worry about the cdrom just watch for the actual drives
[12:00] <malakoff> I don't understand because it worked from the livecd but not on the installed system. after a reboot it worked, and after another reboot it doesn't work anymore.
[12:00] <malakoff> any hint ?
[12:00] <Cosmo_> running commands through konsole I have got WoW running, is there a way I can set it up so that it does that using a icon or something so I don't have to manually do it every time?
[12:00] <Cosmo_> [2007-04-07 17:00:02]  <Cosmo_> I'm fairly new to linux/kubuntu
[12:00] <raffytaffy> my hdparm on hda works good
[12:01] <Cosmo_> stupid copy and paste
[12:01] <kumamoto> raffytaffy: there u go
[12:01] <don_jr__> how can I purge gnome from my system, when I ran sudo aptitude purge gnome, I got these 2 lines :could not get /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 process' temporarily unavailable)  And unable to lock the administration directory.  How can I resolve this?
[12:01] <raffytaffy> i did all this kumamoto to try and speed up when i burn a dvd /cd
[12:02] <kumamoto> don_jr__: u got another application using dpkg
[12:02] <raffytaffy> sounds like updater or synaptic is open
[12:02] <raffytaffy> ^
[12:02] <nonuda> yup close it
[12:02] <kumamoto> true
[12:03] <don_jr__> like what? what else could be accessing it?  all I have open is konqueror, konversation here and the shell I"m typing in
[12:03] <raffytaffy> system monitor is a good place to check imo
[12:03] <don_jr__> would this wallet thing or kopete be accessing it?
[12:03] <kumamoto> don_jr__: ps auxw | grep dpkg
[12:04] <don_jr__> kumamoto when I ran that command I got this return :don       6515  3.0  0.5   2880   796 pts/1    R+   17:03   0:00 grep dpkg
[12:05] <raffytaffy> id of process
[12:05] <don_jr__> how do I shut it off? that makes no sense to me the numbers there..
[12:07] <erin> I am new to Kubuntu and I want to know how to add widgets
[12:07] <don_jr__> gotta figure out how to shut that off I guess, still same error
[12:07] <iain> hey folks I've got display problems on my Latitude D420 and have tried everything on the wiki page unter fixres
[12:07] <iain> anyone got any ideas?
[12:08] <raffytaffy> what kind of display problem
[12:08] <iain> lol sorry my bad ;)
[12:08] <iain> resolution is too low
[12:08] <raffytaffy> have u added the right resolution to xorg.conf ?
[12:08] <iain> researching it I was told 915resolution was the way to fix it
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> whats the shortcut key to make a windows sticky ?
[12:09] <raffytaffy> what is your current resolution ..and what do u want it to be
[12:09] <terrestre> somebody with feisty?
[12:09] <don_jr__> When I try to open konqueror it tells me it's malformated, how can I repair this?
[12:11] <terrestre> jaja don_jr__
[12:11] <terrestre> i told you, that when im do that, was headeach
[12:11] <iain> I'm currently on 1024x768 and the monitor's true native resolution is 1280 x 800
[12:11] <iain> my specs are here: http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/latit_d420?c=us&cs=04&l=en&s=bsd&~section=specs
[12:12] <eeanm> iain: does xrandr list the correct resolution?
[12:12] <eeanm> (just run that command in konsole)
[12:12] <raffytaffy> iain : sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:12] <kumamoto> don_jr__: do u have adept running?
[12:12] <raffytaffy> scroll down to screens