[12:16] <SteveA> the launchpad bugtracker will indeed silently ignore bug reports from non-registered users
[12:17] <SteveA> unfo: what do you suggest we do instead?
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[12:21] <unfo> SteveA: 1. i mean this wiki: wiki.launchpad.canonical.com
[12:22] <unfo> SteveA: 2. wouldn't it be better to tell them their mail was ignored, and to please register?  or to automatically offer to them to register?
[12:24] <SteveA> unfo: 2: I commented in the bug.  basically, we need to be careful here because almost all spam has a forged "from" address
[12:24] <unfo> SteveA: there are feature requests filed for the auto register offer idea: https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/50653 (for bugs) and https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/96595 (for comments)
[12:24] <ubotu> Malone bug 50653 in malone "Malone should support craigslist-style anonymous bug reporting" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[12:24] <SteveA> and we dont' want to be sending "hi, you tried to mail launchpad, but we haven't heard of your address" to people
[12:24] <SteveA> who haven't really mailed us
[12:25] <SteveA> on 1: that's an obsolete wiki, and I really should get it entirely removed
[12:25] <SteveA> but, as to the larger issue, yes there is a bunch of at least somewhat confidential stuff on the current launchpad development wiki
[12:25] <unfo> SteveA: on 1: ah.  i saw a link to it on some spec.
[12:26] <SteveA> there are some of our specs that should stay private for now
[12:26] <SteveA> and some that should be public
[12:26] <SteveA> we have a plan to change this -- and make the public ones public
[12:26] <SteveA> but that needs to wait until a chap called Jonathan starts work next month
[12:26] <SteveA> as he'll be working on the specs system, that is blueprints.launchpad.net, and will add a feature
[12:27] <SteveA> where the text to specs may be managed within launchpad itself
[12:27] <unfo> SteveA: on 2: i wonder what bugzilla and other web apps that parse emails do when they get emails from random people.
[12:27] <SteveA> rather than on an external wiki
[12:27] <SteveA> and so we'll be able to do that for our specs, and mark some public and some private
[12:27] <SteveA> unfo: if you're interested, find out and add the info in comments to the bug
[12:29] <unfo> SteveA: from what I have seen, the debian bug tracking system replies to all emails I send it.  It has no concept of account registration.
[12:29] <SteveA> I don't think that's necessarily a good thing though
[12:30] <unfo> maybe it has some spamassassin filter that looks at emails first or something
[12:30] <unfo> i dunno.
[12:37] <LaserJock> unfo: there's a lot of spam on Debian BTS too
[12:38] <unfo> LaserJock: dunno.  I hardly ever see any; maybe it's already been marked as spam by someone else already though.
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[02:23] <MerlinsLair> anyone here from Alabama?
[02:24] <MerlinsLair> guess I'll try again later
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[02:48] <ryanakca> any way to rename https://launchpad.net/kcypher/ to https://launchpad.net/kcipher/ ?
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[05:14] <shiris2> guys how can one be approved for launchpad beta?
[05:15] <RAOF> shiris2: You can't, 'cause it's gone public :)
[05:15] <shiris2> hi ROAF: it is shirish here
[05:16] <shiris2> RAOF: I have already applied for it
[05:16] <LaserJock> shiris2: Beta is now public, no need to sign up
[05:17] <shiris2> LaserJock: if its public then why cannot I access it?
[05:17] <LaserJock> you are
[05:17] <LaserJock> *everybody* is using Beta now
[05:18] <shiris2> Restricted Launchpad test site        This site is accessible by launchpad admins and members of the         Launchpad Beta Testers        team only.              You may use the main Launchpad site       instead.               You can log out.
[05:18] <LaserJock> don't you beta.launchpad
[05:18] <LaserJock> it's just launchpad
[05:18] <shiris2> I am saying about http://beta.launchpad.net
[05:18] <LaserJock> what I'm saying is beta.launchpad.net = launchpad.net
[05:18] <shiris2> ah ok
[05:21] <shiris2> LaserJock: RAOF: I have a bug written for apport which can be a blueprint, although do not know if its already there in your minds or not. Actually it should be but still can u guys look at it & give me verdict if somebody already has talked about it or not
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[05:22] <shirish> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/102868
[05:22] <Hobbsee> shirish: the beta's getting mroe features added later.  everyone's seeing what was the pre-beta interface now
[05:22] <ubotu> Malone bug 102868 in apport "apport should be mini-ftp client with resuming capabilities" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[05:22] <shirish> hi Hobbsee
[05:22] <Hobbsee> hiya
[05:22] <shirish> as well as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/99989
[05:22] <ubotu> Malone bug 99989 in apport "apport should use another browser if firefox crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[05:24] <shirish> Hobbsee: while you are right, and it does look to have more functionality each day, but for me it feels more like the interface has been simplified for now.
[05:24] <Hobbsee> maybe.  *shrugs*
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[05:25] <shirish> what would really be nice if we the users are able to the results of the hardware database put by hwdb-client so we know which or what hardware works out of box for linux or not
[05:27] <shirish> also apport needs to be fortified much more than what is as of today
[05:28] <shirish> I am also looking at the apport.log while it does log what things crashed it still does not log what it did while trying to send if it had any problems or something
[05:28] <shirish> /var/log/apport.log.1
[05:29] <shirish> anybody?
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[05:39] <LaserJock> shirish: this really isn't the right channel for that I don't think
[05:39] <LaserJock> and in fact, it's probably better in an email or a spec
[05:40] <shirish> LaserJock: the thing is I want some features added to apport, and do not really know whom to send this in email or how to write a spec.
[05:40] <shirish> LaserJock: I can write what I do want or atleast somethings about what apport should be doing, has somebody written about this before or not
[05:41] <LaserJock> shirish: file a bug
[05:41] <LaserJock> shirish: email pitti
[05:41] <shirish> LaserJock: I have already filed 2 bugs
[05:41] <LaserJock> there you go :-)
[05:41] <shirish> LaserJock: what is pitti full email address, is it pitti@ubuntu.com
[05:42] <Hobbsee> or ubuntu-devel/ubuntu-devel-discuss ML
[05:42] <shirish> LaserJock: the point is nobody has even looked at them, so its just lying there which is a pity
[05:42] <LaserJock> shirish: martin.pitt@
[05:42] <shirish> LaserJock: ok will do, thnx for the heads up
[05:43] <LaserJock> shirish: well, thats the nature of things
[05:43] <LaserJock> people are busy getting Feisty out the door
[05:43] <Hobbsee> shirish: you appear to think that there are hundreds of ubuntu devs, too.  there arent.
[05:43] <shirish> LaserJock: that is totally understandable
[05:43] <Hobbsee> if you want to get involved, you're welcome
[05:44] <shirish> Hobbsee: in some ways its good, as the saying goes too many cooks spoil the broth, we all know what is happening with Vista
[05:45] <shirish> btw what is the link to see the traffic of ubuntu-dev mailing list?
[05:45] <Hobbsee> lists.ubuntu.com
[05:45] <shirish> ok cool thanx Hobbsee :)
[05:45] <Hobbsee> shirish: that's more where there are thousands of developers, yes.
[05:47] <shirish> ok will be hanging here just to see if any interesting discussion happens for improvement to launchpad or something like that, thanx all for your concern LaserJock Hobbsee :)
[05:50] <LaserJock> shirish: np
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[06:12] <muntyan> hi guys, how do i get myself removed from launchpad?
[06:12] <muntyan> and a project too
[06:13] <shirish> muntyan: actually wrong place to ask that, as #launchpad would be more appropriate I think 
[06:13] <shirish> also I do not know
[06:14] <muntyan> um, #launchpad?
[06:14] <muntyan> is it me or you thinking about wrong channel?
[06:18] <muntyan> mdz, SteveA: around? (you guys are listed as admins at wiki )
[06:19] <muntyan> lifeless, stub: or maybe you guys?
[06:20] <LaserJock> muntyan: I think you can email launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com
[06:20] <LaserJock> muntyan: or file a RT request.
[06:20] <muntyan> RT?
[06:20] <shirish> oops sorry I thought I was on ubuntu+1
[06:21] <LaserJock> muntyan: Request Ticket
[06:21] <LaserJock> I'm trying to dig up a URL
[06:21] <LaserJock> muntyan: most of the Launchpad admins are away for weekend/holiday
[06:23] <LaserJock> muntyan: hmm, maybe lauchpad-users is better, I think it's rt [at]  canonical.com but I could be totally wrong
[06:23] <muntyan> google found "request tracker" but it seems to be the Request Tracker project, not the request tracker for requests in launchpad
[06:23] <muntyan> um, i am lost :)
[06:24] <muntyan> LaserJock: i guess i'll email those guys directly (web page says it's okay)
[06:24] <LaserJock> request tracker is I think a part of Launchpad
[06:24] <LaserJock> but I'm not sure if it's used for these kinds of things
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[06:25] <muntyan> oh, there is "Launchpad" project
[06:25] <stub> here is fine
[06:25] <lifeless> answers.launchpad.net
[06:25] <lifeless> or here
[06:25] <lifeless> but here only after you get someone relevants attention ;)
[06:25] <LaserJock> wahoo, they're ALIVE ;-)
[06:25] <stub> bearly...
[06:26] <lifeless> mmmmm easter indulgence
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[06:26] <stub> muntyan: What are you trying to do? You may well have access to do it yourself if you know where to look
[06:26] <muntyan> lifeless: i want to remove my account and remove a project, how do i do it?
[06:27] <muntyan> oops, i don't want to remove account. i want to remove a project
[06:27] <stub> For those, you need to open a support request to confirm you are who you say you are.
[06:27] <stub> Unless the project is empty, in which case I can do it now given there will be no harm
[06:28] <muntyan> i wish there was one single account for all bugbases everywhere
[06:28] <muntyan> stub: yes it's empty
[06:28] <stub> project name or url?
[06:28] <muntyan> https://launchpad.net/medit
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[06:29] <stub> Project disabled
[06:29] <bhavi> hello How to open SSH keys?
[06:29] <muntyan> stub: thanks a lot
[06:30] <stub> lifeless: Bars open on Chakri Day since it isn't a Buddhist holiday
[06:30] <lifeless> stub: excellent. Hic.
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[06:32] <bhavi> how to register a branch in launchpad? I have interest in developing Linux mobile edition... Kernel simulation is over in my mobile..
[06:33] <bhavi> Hello anyone there?
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[06:36] <bhavi> hhhhhheeeeeeeelllllllllllloooooooooooo
[06:38] <LaserJock> hi bhavi 
[06:39] <bhavi> hi answer to above questions please..
[06:40] <LaserJock> hmm, so you want to create a new project in Launchpad?
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[10:21] <sabdfl> lifeless: ping
[10:22] <sabdfl> rebooting...
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[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #104024 in launchpad "translation filter does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104024
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[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #104027 in malone "cannot go from package overview to package bugs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104027
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[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #104032 in malone "bug search useless" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104032
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[12:29] <j^> hi, http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/network-manager/main/changes gives me an internal error
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[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #104070 in launchpad "Lauchpad needs global translation review" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104070
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[01:46] <mimilus> plop
[01:47] <mimilus> is there someone which knows ow to know if a bug has already been posted on lunchpad
[01:47] <mimilus> i'm a beginner under linux , i have just switched under ubuntu
[01:48] <mimilus> i think i've found a bug under OOo
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[01:50] <mdke> mimilus: you can search at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs
[01:51] <mimilus> ok i'm going to do it
[01:51] <mimilus> thank's
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[02:06] <Yannig> Hello everybody :)
[02:06] <Yannig> I have a problem merging two accounts at Launchpad :(
[02:06] <Yannig> https://launchpad.net/token/zXfc0X9CXBf3vB0TXCTj/+accountmerge
[02:06] <Yannig> (time-out)
[02:07] <Yannig> I've tried several times for 4-5 weeks and no way :(
[02:10] <Kmos> Yannig: file a bug against launchpad
[02:11] <Kmos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[02:14] <Yannig> Thanks :)
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[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #104087 in launchpad "http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/network-manager/main/changes  gives me 500 Internal error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104087
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #104088 in launchpad "Time-out problem at merging accounts" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104088
[02:27] <Yannig> The last one is mine :)
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[03:00] <lotko> hi! I have a question: When I'm translating in Launchpad, are the result only visible for Ubuntu Edgy, or will they be transfered to Feisty?
[03:00] <Hobbsee> they're only visible for feisty, i would assume
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[03:01] <lotko> and if I'm translating for Edgy, are they moved to Feisty. Or does every new ubuntu version have to be translated from scratch?
[03:07] <lotko> it's ok. i've searched the mailing list (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/launchpad-users/2006-August/000536.html)
[03:08] <Kmos> it's better you translate in feisty
[03:08] <Kmos> after in edgy you only need to click on suggested translation
[03:08] <Kmos> and compare them
[03:13] <lotko> thanks!
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[03:31] <Adri2000> hmm, affects distros/ubuntu/mantis < that doesn't work anymore?
[03:38] <Adri2000> I guess ubuntu/mantis should work
[03:39] <Adri2000> also, does anyone know if the smtp server fiordland.ubuntu.com is open to everyone and is supposed to work?
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #104118 in launchpad "'unexpected form data' error when cancelling joining a team" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104118
[03:53] <Hobbsee> Adri2000: yes, yes.
[03:53] <Hobbsee> afaik
[04:00] <Adri2000> I see, my FAI blocks the smtp port, fortunately it can be disabled
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[05:50] <shirish> pochu: are u there?
[05:51] <pochu> shirish: for a bit
[05:51] <shirish> pochu: did u see I put another file of the same, perhaps you can trace it this time around, it is the exaile bug
[05:52] <shirish> bug #103604
[05:52] <ubotu> Malone bug 103604 in exaile "Exaile crashes while closing from status bar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103604
[05:52] <pochu> shirish: yeah, I've tried it again, and now apport-retrace tells I have to install the dbgsym, which I can't do because dependency issues (it seems that the dbgsym packages are a little out-of-date)
[05:53] <pochu> shirish: it would be really really easy if you can report it directly to Launchpad with apport
[05:53] <pochu> btw, we shouldn't be speaking here, but in #ubuntu-bugs
[05:53] <shirish> I know its my low-low dsl speed :(
[05:53] <shirish> oops
[05:53] <shirish> we can switch there
[05:54] <shirish> btw I opened this window for something else altogether
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[05:54] <pochu> hehe, don't worry ;)
[05:55] <shirish> in launchpad in overview for launchpad instead of the bug symbol I get some other symbol & hovering on that says support-tracker what does it mean?
[05:56] <shirish> any ideas?
[05:56] <shirish> its looks like a paper & pen or something like that
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[05:57] <shirish> its paper & question mark
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[06:31] <rmjb> Hello
[06:31] <rmjb> how do I make a bug in one package depend on a bug in another package in launchpad? the only options I see are affects distribution or upstream
[06:33] <Adri2000> what do you mean by "depend"?
[06:34] <rmjb> well bug A can only be fixed after bug B
[06:34] <Adri2000> I don't think it's possible
[06:35] <rmjb> hmm... well that's not too good... even bugzilla has that
[06:35] <rmjb> I'll just put a note in the comments then
[06:35] <Adri2000> wait for someone to confirm, but I've never seen that on launchpad
[06:35] <rmjb> ok
[06:37] <Adri2000> it is possible for specs though, eg: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/automated-testing-deployment/+deptree
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[07:16] <rmjb> I emailed the launchpad-users list with the question
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[08:08] <ryanakca> any chance of renaming https://launchpad.net/kcypher to https://launchpad.net/kcipher ?
[08:08] <ryanakca> (if it's not too much work?)
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[08:14] <mc__> hello! what do i have to do so that  a branch gets mirrored?
[08:32] <mc__> how often does the launchpad bzr branch gets updated?
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[08:55] <ryanakca> mc__: each time you push to it?
[08:56] <mc__> ryanakca: but how can i push to launchpad? http is read only
[08:57] <ryanakca> what's the name of your branch on launchpad?
[08:58] <mc__> ryanakca: https://code.launchpad.net/~m-otteneder/agfxmbcs/devel
[09:00] <mc__> ryanakca: and now?
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[09:02] <ryanakca> bzr push sftp://mc__@bazaar.launchpad.net/~m-otteneder/agfxmbcs/devel
[09:02] <ryanakca> iirc
[09:02] <mc__> ryanakca: and there is no automatical mirroring?
[09:02] <ryanakca> what do you mean?
[09:02] <ryanakca> You either host it on launchpad or you don't...
[09:03] <ryanakca> mirror it from another server, dunno... maybe #bzr...
[09:03] <ryanakca> the mirror is: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~m-otteneder/agfxmbcs/devel
[09:03] <ryanakca> you push to your main branch server...
[09:03] <ryanakca> which'll then get mirrored by bazaar.launchpad.net
[09:04] <ryanakca> but I don't think you can push to bazaar.lp.net if it isn't your main branch server/host...
[09:04] <ryanakca> just a guess.
[09:04] <mc__> ryanakca: i pushed  new revision to my main branch(which isnt bazaar.lp.net) but i dont see it in lp
[09:04] <mc__> ryanakca: how long will it take till it is in lp?
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[09:06] <ryanakca> dunno
[09:07] <mc__> ryanakca: alright,thank you
[09:07] <ryanakca> when you push to lp, it usually takes 3-4 minutes
[09:07] <ryanakca> I guess people don't really like to have lp using up their bandwidth and checking that often, so, probably in the next 20 min
[09:13] <mc__> ryanakca: but i cant push to lp
[09:14] <mc__> bzr: ERROR: Connection error: Unable to connect to SSH host bazaar.launchpad.net:None: 
[09:16] <mc__> ryanakca: i tried the cmd you gave me
[09:17] <ryanakca> mc__: the address I use is sftp://ryanakca@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ryanakca/kcypher/trunk ... adapt it for your use
[09:18] <mc__> ryanakca: alright,ill try,ty
[09:18] <mc__> ryanakca:  is your lp-id i assume?
[09:18] <ryanakca> yup
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[09:26] <mc__> ryanakca: alright,now im a step further,i added my ssh-key. bzr now says bzr: ERROR: File exists: u'/~m-otteneder/agfxmbcs/devel': mkdir failed: unable to mkdir
[09:26] <mc__>  any idea what this could mean?
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[12:01] <Amaranth> launchpad is lying to me :/
[12:02] <Amaranth> The little lock for the importance says only the maintainer or bug contact can change it
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