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| sharms | is there any reason why gnome-terminal sets the TERM type as xterm, and not xterm-color | 12:48 |
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| ds | xterm is in color | 12:50 |
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| sharms | oooh look a new hot spec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/EnhancedBash | 02:00 |
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| romuloubuntu | I would like to know how can I help on ubuntu development | 02:13 |
| romuloubuntu | I can code in C C++ and Java | 02:13 |
| romuloubuntu | and have a limited knowloedge about linux and ubuntu | 02:13 |
| romuloubuntu | i dont know much, but want to help | 02:13 |
| sharms | romuloubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers | 02:14 |
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| dstanek | is there a good official set of instructions for upgrading to feisty? all i can find is forum posts with bits and pieces of information | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | dstanek: #ubuntu+1 is probably a better channel to ask, are you wanting to upgrade now? | 06:23 |
| Burgundavia | dstanek: there will be soon, via a set of release notes | 06:24 |
| dstanek | LaserJock: yep - i saw some interesting bugs that i would like to take a look at | 06:25 |
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| ra21vi | hi | 08:50 |
| ra21vi | is there any performance enhancements in Feisty | 08:50 |
| ra21vi | everybuddy must be sleeping :) | 08:51 |
| ra21vi | exit | 08:52 |
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| janimo | cjwatson: please let thunar-volman-plugin through when you're around. thank you | 10:37 |
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| cjwatson | janimo: grrr stop disappearing when I want to talk to you | 11:22 |
| === cjwatson mails | ||
| cjwatson | hate drive-by IRC though | 11:24 |
| poningru | lol | 11:29 |
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| elkbuntu | hmm... is it normal for mailing lists to have 170 people unsubscribe at precisely the same moment? | 11:33 |
| poningru | eek | 11:33 |
| mdke | I've had something similar on ubuntu-it | 11:33 |
| poningru | nothing on marketing like that | 11:34 |
| elkbuntu | mdke, -users had 170 an hour and a half ago | 11:34 |
| mdke | occasionally we have mass unsubscriptions caused by excessive bounces from one particular provider | 11:34 |
| mdke | same provider? | 11:34 |
| elkbuntu | multiple providers | 11:34 |
| mdke | maybe related to these problems we've been having with the list recently | 11:34 |
| elkbuntu | hmm.. maybe not | 11:34 |
| elkbuntu | apologies, all gmail | 11:34 |
| mdke | excessive bounces? | 11:35 |
| mdke | maybe gmail had some downtime | 11:35 |
| elkbuntu | no indication of bounces, no | 11:36 |
| mdke | given the traffic on -users, it probably doesn't take much downtime to get a lot of undelivered mail | 11:36 |
| mdke | what's the reason given for the unsubscription? | 11:36 |
| elkbuntu | im not admin, only mod, i dont get the reason | 11:36 |
| mdke | oh, right | 11:36 |
| elkbuntu | "#####@gmail.com has been removed from ubuntu-users." | 11:36 |
| elkbuntu | is all i see | 11:36 |
| mdke | best grab an admin, I guess | 11:37 |
| mdke | talking of bounces, I've had 800 so far from that wiki licensing email I just sent out... did anyone actually get it? | 11:40 |
| mdke | let's hope my provider isn't spam blocked or something | 11:40 |
| elkbuntu | i got it | 11:40 |
| mdke | okay | 11:40 |
| elkbuntu | some people do change email addresses like underwear though | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | I got it | 11:42 |
| elkbuntu | cjwatson, who's around i can poke to investigate this mass unsub? | 11:42 |
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| mdke | a lot of these bounces seem to be related to me being blocked... oh well. Hopefully the majority are getting it | 11:45 |
| elkbuntu | mdke, i'm sure it will be blogged about, reposted, etc. the message will get out | 11:45 |
| mdke | yes, I've blogged it now and I'll use a few mailing lists too | 11:46 |
| mdke | looks like I was on spamhaus pbl, damn | 11:50 |
| mc44 | mdke: i didnt get it at gmail | 11:50 |
| mdke | what's your address? | 11:51 |
| mc44 | mdke: markc.lists etc | 11:52 |
| mdke | you're not in my list :) | 11:53 |
| mc44 | oh i thought it was to a mailing list :) | 11:53 |
| mc44 | sorry | 11:53 |
| mdke | should be anyone who has edited documentation on an ubuntu wiki, more or less | 11:54 |
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| sacater | who controls the nvidia-glx development? | 12:06 |
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| Fujitsu | sacater: NVIDIA, perhaps? | 12:07 |
| sacater | but who adds nivida-glx to universe? | 12:07 |
| Fujitsu | It's in restricted, and I'm not sure who. | 12:09 |
| poningru | I thought it was in multiverse | 12:09 |
| sacater | poningru: Fujitsu any way i can find out? | 12:09 |
| Fujitsu | No, restricted. | 12:10 |
| Fujitsu | sacater: It'll be the kernel team. | 12:10 |
| poningru | Ubuntu Kernel Team | 12:10 |
| poningru | yeah | 12:10 |
| poningru | Maintainer: Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com> | 12:10 |
| sacater | ok | 12:24 |
| sacater | thanks | 12:24 |
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| rouzic | stgraber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/94055 | 12:54 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 94055 in xorg "MacBook Pro touchpad too sensitive in Feisty - kernel-2.6.20-12" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:54 |
| rouzic | please, disabled the touchpad in the macbook :( | 12:54 |
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| gerv | Any boot process hackers about? | 02:12 |
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| mako | mdke: did you get your issue handled? | 02:30 |
| elkbuntu | hi mako | 02:33 |
| mako | elkbuntu: hola | 02:33 |
| elkbuntu | mako, PM ok? | 02:34 |
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| mako | yes | 02:39 |
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| mdke | mako: yes thanks | 02:47 |
| mako | awesome, thanks | 02:48 |
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| === gerv 's laptop is still hosed | ||
| poningru | gerv: whats wrong? | 03:05 |
| gerv | I installed the Feisty beta. | 03:05 |
| gerv | It decided that my single-disk laptop needed mdadm | 03:05 |
| poningru | -> #ubuntu+1 ? | 03:05 |
| gerv | (which is a RAID thing) | 03:05 |
| cjwatson_ | mdadm ?! | 03:05 |
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| gerv | I tried in there. | 03:05 |
| cjwatson_ | gerv: which installer? | 03:05 |
| gerv | I had some cluebie telling me to reformat my hard disk. | 03:06 |
| poningru | hmm thats weird | 03:06 |
| gerv | Later on, it emerged that he didn't even run Ubuntu. | 03:06 |
| cjwatson | gerv: (LTNS) | 03:06 |
| gerv | mdadm doesn't work, and my laptop won't boot. | 03:06 |
| poningru | buh | 03:06 |
| gerv | cjwatson: Not sure how to answer your installer question. | 03:06 |
| cjwatson | gerv: live CD-type installer, or text mode? | 03:06 |
| gerv | I did an apt-get dist-upgrade. | 03:06 |
| cjwatson | oh, I see | 03:06 |
| poningru | eek | 03:07 |
| cjwatson | gerv: originally installed pre-dapper? | 03:07 |
| gerv | I'm happy to take this elsewhere; I just came in here to try and find someone with a clue. | 03:07 |
| cjwatson | sorry, dapper or earlier, I mean | 03:07 |
| gerv | Originally installed with dapper, yes. | 03:07 |
| cjwatson | right, dapper installed mdadm regardless | 03:07 |
| gerv | (I think.) | 03:07 |
| cjwatson | we took it out in edgy | 03:07 |
| gerv | I can boot the laptop with a liveCD. | 03:07 |
| cjwatson | you should just be able to boot a live CD, mount your normal filesystem, chroot in, apt-get --purge remove mdadm, and eboot | 03:08 |
| gerv | Using that, I updated to the latest version of lots of stuff, as SJR asked me to do in the bug I filed. | 03:08 |
| cjwatson | reboot | 03:08 |
| gerv | I removed mdadm, but it still won't boot. | 03:08 |
| cjwatson | ok, so we can skip mdadm as the cause then | 03:08 |
| gerv | Well, it was an mdadm error which was the last thing the console printed. | 03:08 |
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| gerv | But you are right, perhaps it's not that. | 03:08 |
| cjwatson | what does it do, drop you to an initramfs prompt? | 03:08 |
| gerv | I have a bug filed: | 03:08 |
| gerv | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/102148 | 03:08 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 102148 in mdadm "Machine won't boot; mdadm says "no device listed..."" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 03:08 |
| gerv | Yes, it eventually times out to an initramfs prompt. | 03:09 |
| gerv | Or, I can get one quicker using the boot option break=mount | 03:09 |
| === gerv is booting his Live CD again | ||
| gerv | (it takes about five minutes) | 03:09 |
| cjwatson | I think Scott missed the bit where you said you didn't actually have a RAID array | 03:10 |
| gerv | Ah :-) | 03:10 |
| gerv | I suspected that might be the case. | 03:10 |
| gerv | I did also say I had a laptop... | 03:10 |
| gerv | How many laptops have RAID arrays? | 03:10 |
| cjwatson | there are some freaks, but anyway | 03:10 |
| gerv | (Not including yours.) | 03:10 |
| cjwatson | mine doesn't. :-) | 03:10 |
| gerv | Oops. | 03:10 |
| gerv | Those two messages were typed at the same time! | 03:10 |
| gerv | Honest! | 03:11 |
| poningru | lol | 03:11 |
| cjwatson | have a look in /sys/block from the initramfs prompt to see if your hard disk is there | 03:11 |
| gerv | OK. | 03:11 |
| gerv | One second. | 03:11 |
| cjwatson | /sys/block/hda or /sys/block/sda or whateveer | 03:11 |
| gerv | What should it say? | 03:11 |
| gerv | Aha. | 03:11 |
| gerv | Can I use break=mount or must I wait for timeout? | 03:11 |
| cjwatson | if it's not there (as I suspect), then the kernel isn't detecting your disk | 03:11 |
| cjwatson | break=mount is fine | 03:12 |
| gerv | One sec... | 03:12 |
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| gerv | /sys/block/sda is present. | 03:12 |
| cjwatson | the other possibility with a reasonably good probability attached to it is that your bootloader is pointing to the wrong root filesystem; there's a particularly good chance of this if you're using lilo | 03:12 |
| gerv | (My disk, for some reason, shows up as SCSI when I'm pretty sure it's IDE. | 03:12 |
| gerv | I'm using GRUB. | 03:12 |
| cjwatson | most disks are sd* now, due to libata | 03:13 |
| gerv | OK. | 03:13 |
| gerv | so sda is there. | 03:13 |
| cjwatson | ok, is /dev/sda* there? | 03:13 |
| gerv | Yes. | 03:13 |
| gerv | I try: | 03:13 |
| gerv | mkdir /tmp/hd | 03:13 |
| gerv | mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/hd | 03:13 |
| gerv | and it says: | 03:13 |
| gerv | "Mounting /dev/sda1 on /tmp/hd failed: Invalid argument" | 03:13 |
| gerv | (Helpful, huh?) | 03:14 |
| cjwatson | so that's the kernel saying EINVAL | 03:14 |
| cjwatson | if you're lucky, dmesg might have more information | 03:14 |
| gerv | I have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5. | 03:14 |
| gerv | Which I believe is correct. | 03:14 |
| gerv | dmesg: Not found. | 03:14 |
| cjwatson | argh silly busybox-initramfs | 03:14 |
| gerv | Neither is there a /var/log | 03:14 |
| poningru | gerv: can you try sda2? | 03:15 |
| cjwatson | try 'mount -t FSTYPE /dev/sdaWHATEVER' | 03:15 |
| gerv | poningru: Same problem. | 03:15 |
| gerv | And with 5. | 03:15 |
| cjwatson | er ... /tmp/hd | 03:15 |
| gerv | And with just /dev/sda. | 03:15 |
| gerv | OK. | 03:15 |
| gerv | Is it "-t ext" for ext3? | 03:15 |
| cjwatson | -t ext3 | 03:15 |
| gerv | Aha! | 03:15 |
| gerv | That works. | 03:15 |
| cjwatson | ok, now, sounds like your grub configuration is wrong | 03:15 |
| gerv | I can see my root filesystem. | 03:15 |
| cjwatson | check /boot/grub/menu.lst in the root fs to see what root= says | 03:16 |
| gerv | One practical problem. | 03:16 |
| gerv | How do I view it? | 03:16 |
| poningru | cat | 03:16 |
| gerv | busybox has no editor, and no "more". | 03:16 |
| cjwatson | chroot, editor-of-choice | 03:16 |
| gerv | It scrolls off the screen. | 03:16 |
| cjwatson | 'chroot /tmp/hd' will work now ... | 03:16 |
| gerv | Aha. | 03:16 |
| gerv | One second, then. | 03:16 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Do you have a moment to discuss a bug? | 03:17 |
| poningru | cjwatson: I can take over here if you want | 03:17 |
| gerv | OK. | 03:17 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: sure | 03:17 |
| cjwatson | poningru: *shrug*, I'm here for a little while | 03:17 |
| gerv | There are loads of stanzas. | 03:17 |
| poningru | cool | 03:17 |
| gerv | The first one has: | 03:17 |
| gerv | root (hd0,0) | 03:17 |
| gerv | In fact, that all do. | 03:18 |
| poningru | wait thats it? | 03:18 |
| poningru | there isnt anything more? | 03:18 |
| cjwatson | no, he means that all the stanzas have that | 03:18 |
| gerv | No, there's lots. | 03:18 |
| poningru | oh... | 03:18 |
| gerv | default 0 | 03:18 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: bug 96464 has had the 7.04 milestone added to it - my opinion is that it's a user error, a hard problem to solve and we should ignore it until Feisty+1. I just wanted to see if you (or someone else from -release) concurs. | 03:18 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 96464 in twiki "Twiki package: /usr/sbin/apachectl is not executable, exiting... " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96464 | 03:18 |
| cjwatson | this is not surprising, I'm looking for the root= on the kernel line | 03:18 |
| gerv | Ah! | 03:18 |
| gerv | root=/dev/evms/hda1 | 03:19 |
| cjwatson | bingo | 03:19 |
| gerv | Which is also true for all of them, | 03:19 |
| gerv | even the Edgy kernels. | 03:19 |
| StevenK | gerv: There's a groot option | 03:19 |
| cjwatson | kick evms in the nuts, change that to /dev/sda1 throughout, probably purge evms from your system, and reboot | 03:19 |
| === gerv readies his boot | ||
| gerv | !trout evms | 03:19 |
| ubotu | Sorry, I don't know anything about trout evms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi | 03:19 |
| StevenK | kopt, that is | 03:19 |
| poningru | lol | 03:19 |
| cjwatson | evms is another of the things we kicked out of standard post-dapper | 03:19 |
| === gerv thinks you need a better class of bot | ||
| StevenK | kopt=root=/dev/mapper/system-root ro | 03:19 |
| poningru | gerv: hey its better than firebot trust me | 03:20 |
| StevenK | And then run update-grub | 03:20 |
| gerv | cjwatson: Are you able to update the bug with a proper description of the problem? | 03:20 |
| StevenK | (Change your line to suit) | 03:20 |
| poningru | StevenK: he isnt on grub prompt | 03:20 |
| gerv | I would hate to think of lots of people upgrading from dapper having this issue. | 03:20 |
| StevenK | poningru: That's in menu.lst | 03:20 |
| gerv | cjwatson: How do I purge evms? | 03:20 |
| gerv | As in, dpkg --purge remove evms? | 03:20 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: can't we just check whether /usr/sbin/apachectl etc. exist? Checking for conffiles is well-known to be wrong. | 03:20 |
| cjwatson | gerv: apt-get --purge remove evms | 03:20 |
| cjwatson | gerv: sure, I'll update it. Did you upgrade straight to feisty from dapper, or via edgy? | 03:21 |
| gerv | Via edgy. | 03:21 |
| cjwatson | ok | 03:21 |
| gerv | For quite a while, I ran edgy. | 03:21 |
| poningru | StevenK: oh did not know that | 03:21 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: That error (which I find I can't reproduce to blow up) is from invoke-rc.d apache. | 03:21 |
| gerv | Am I supposed to ignore StevenK? That's another problem, right? :-) | 03:21 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: sure, but you can [ -x /usr/sbin/apachectl ] or whatever independently | 03:22 |
| cjwatson | I don't think "package removed but not purged" counts as user error | 03:22 |
| gerv | I can't purge evms - dpkg complains about not being able to find install-info and update-rc.d. | 03:22 |
| cjwatson | though I'm also not entirely convinced it's release-critical | 03:23 |
| gerv | Is it compulsory, or can I do it once I've booted. | 03:23 |
| gerv | ? | 03:23 |
| cjwatson | gerv: ok, don't worry about purging it just yet | 03:23 |
| gerv | OK. | 03:23 |
| === gerv changes root= lines and reboots | ||
| gerv | cjwatson: You can say in the bug that I'm available to help with any further debugging I can do. | 03:23 |
| cjwatson | done | 03:24 |
| cjwatson | I reassigned the bug to grub | 03:24 |
| gerv | It doesn't boot, but that's because I've just realised I removed evms but didn't change hda1 to sda1. | 03:24 |
| === gerv goes through process again | ||
| cjwatson | note /dev/sda1 not /dev/evms/sda1 | 03:24 |
| cjwatson | the evms is a bogus remnant of slightly-dodgy UUID detection | 03:25 |
| gerv | Is a bogus remnant anything like a not-carefully-reading scott james remnant? | 03:25 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: Right, I have a slightly dodgy fix for the other open twiki bug, I will only restart apache* if apachectl is executable | 03:25 |
| gerv | :-) | 03:26 |
| cjwatson | I suspect Scott was frantically trying to get through triaging about a million boot bugs before release | 03:26 |
| gerv | Sure. | 03:26 |
| gerv | No blame, just amusement :-) | 03:27 |
| gerv | I'm sure he's a busy guy. | 03:27 |
| === gerv has seen a little of his frustration in some comments | ||
| StevenK | gerv: Oh my God, can we keep you? | 03:27 |
| StevenK | A bug happens and you show amusement, not blame or frustration. | 03:27 |
| === gerv would be much more upset if his laptop was his only machine | ||
| === gerv is very glad he tried it there first | ||
| StevenK | cjwatson: I seem to recall evms being installed on my bosses Feisty machine ... | 03:28 |
| StevenK | I also recall having to take it out the back and neuter it. | 03:29 |
| cjwatson | indeed, if he upgraded from dapper or before | 03:29 |
| === gerv waits for his root filesystem to do the "30-mount fsck" | ||
| StevenK | No, fresh install, which is what worries me | 03:29 |
| gerv | In fact, 32-mount. | 03:29 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: no code that'd do that to my knowledge | 03:29 |
| gerv | Thanks everyone! | 03:29 |
| cjwatson | gerv: thanks for the help tracking it down | 03:29 |
| gerv | Gotta run now, but will clean everything up and get it working properly later. | 03:29 |
| gerv | No problem. | 03:29 |
| gerv | Thanks for being the guy with a clue :-) | 03:30 |
| StevenK | Hrm. I suspect it's been reinstalled since. | 03:30 |
| StevenK | Pity. | 03:30 |
| cjwatson | I'm not certain we can do anything about it for feisty, but can certainly look at it for the LTS-to-LTS upgrade problem that we need to sit down and solve at some point | 03:30 |
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| StevenK | Conflicts: are fun. Although it smacks of 'killing a fly with a 30-pound sledgehammer' | 03:30 |
| gerv | cjwatson: My problem or his? | 03:31 |
| cjwatson | gerv: yours | 03:31 |
| === gerv sincerely hopes it's possible to do something about machines becoming unbootable before Feisty is released. | ||
| cjwatson | I'd like to, but it's just so close to RC and with public holidays ... I did set the milestone though | 03:31 |
| gerv | I upgraded using the applet thingy. | 03:31 |
| cjwatson | and bumped priority | 03:32 |
| gerv | If this happens to a significant number of people, this could be Really Bad(TM). | 03:32 |
| cjwatson | so it is on the list, if it can be crammed in | 03:32 |
| gerv | OK. | 03:32 |
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| gerv | I'll wait and see what happens :-) | 03:32 |
| === gerv really goes now | ||
| cjwatson | right answer might be to try to transition stuff of the form /dev/evms/hda1 to UUID but not /dev/evms/<otherstuff | 03:34 |
| cjwatson | > | 03:34 |
| cjwatson | it's a slightly thorny problem - really a case of working around edgy's bugs | 03:34 |
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| cjwatson | but edgy's bugs have become relevant now that /dev/hda => /dev/sda for you | 03:34 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: I wonder if sd* get sucked into that as well, such as /dev/evms/[sh] d* | 03:35 |
| cjwatson | I'd be surprised if they didn't - but we can't guarantee exactly how the hd* -> sd* transition will work from userspace, hence UUIDs | 03:35 |
| === StevenK nods. | ||
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| cjwatson | ok, I have a very tentative patch for that | 03:42 |
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| StevenK | cjwatson: Do you want to see a debdiff for this twiki bug fix? | 03:53 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: sure | 03:54 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/twiki.debdiff | 03:55 |
| cjwatson | StevenK: it's /usr/sbin/apachectl, not /usr/bin/apachectl | 03:56 |
| StevenK | DOH! | 03:56 |
| === StevenK finds a rock to hide under. | ||
| cjwatson | doesn't apache2 need to be restarted? | 03:56 |
| cjwatson | in which case you should check apache2|apache2-*) if [ -x /usr/sbin/apache2ctl ] ; then continue; fi ;; or whatever | 03:56 |
| StevenK | Okay, I'll also check for apache2ctl | 03:57 |
| cjwatson | I'd use grep -q -- -b | 03:57 |
| cjwatson | though dunno, maybe -e is more portable after all, I just don't trust it to terminate options | 03:58 |
| cjwatson | looks ok otherwise | 03:58 |
| cjwatson | in my own packages I often prefer to stick a trivial portable-shell version of which(1) at the top of the script and use it as a function rather than hardcoding paths | 03:59 |
| cjwatson | but YMMV | 03:59 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: I've never had any problems with grep -e | 03:59 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: That part of the patch strikes me as really dirty. I blame mini-httpd | 03:59 |
| cjwatson | /usr/bin/which is more or less my code aside from some crackful and wrong option parsing that somebody stuck in there, so I use a reduced version of that | 04:00 |
| cjwatson | you can see it e.g. in base-passwd.postinst | 04:01 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: debdiff updated. | 04:02 |
| cjwatson | yup, looks fine | 04:04 |
| cjwatson | argh, which -a was added due to Dan Jacobson | 04:05 |
| === cjwatson sighs | ||
| cjwatson | as I wrote it, which intentionally had no option parsing whatsoever in order that you could safely use it on any string without having to care about escaping | 04:06 |
| cjwatson | though I suppose at least you can now put -- in front | 04:06 |
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| StevenK | cjwatson: twiki uploaded. Thanks for your help. | 04:13 |
| Adri2000 | cjwatson: I would like to do an update of devscripts. I need a sponsor and I need your approval (since it's main), the debdiff is at http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/devscripts_2.9.27ubuntu13.debdiff | 04:18 |
| Adri2000 | cjwatson: currently requestsync doesn't work because of "distros/ubuntu": example: "Failing command: affects distros/ubuntu/mantis" "There is no project named 'distros' registered in Launchpad." | 04:20 |
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| Mirv | uh oh, Gaim is now Pidgin. | 04:29 |
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| cjwatson | Adri2000: I would change 'tla | bazaar' to 'bzr | tla | bazaar' rather than 'tla | bzr' - there's code in devscripts that legitimately does use baz | 04:34 |
| cjwatson | Adri2000: aside from that your changes are fine, but please find another sponsor as I'm trying not to spend too much time on work today | 04:34 |
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| Adri2000 | ok, thanks | 04:36 |
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| Adri2000 | debdiff updated, if any core-dev is available: please upload it | 04:43 |
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| tan_ | Hi, does anyone know who I could contact regarding the google SoC? | 05:15 |
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| dotwaffle | Anyone seen Keybuk recently? | 05:38 |
| dotwaffle | re: Upstart. | 05:38 |
| Hobbsee | he's on holidays for a copule of days, iirc. | 05:39 |
| cjwatson | he was in our London office Tue-Thu, and is now on holiday until next Tue | 05:39 |
| cjwatson | (UK public holidays) | 05:39 |
| dotwaffle | Ah, ok, no worries. Demoscener here was interested in chatting to him re: getting CPU intensive/Low IO load graphical startup. Will chat to him when he return ;0 | 05:40 |
| dotwaffle | Thanks. | 05:40 |
| dotwaffle | Back to the demoparty ;) www.demoscene.tv if people care... | 05:40 |
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| gerv | cjwatson: I've now booted successfully, and run update-grub, which stuck UUIDs into my menu.lst, and now it boots on its own fine. | 06:34 |
| gerv | Thanks :-) | 06:34 |
| cjwatson | ah yes, update-grub would have done that once you put /dev/sda1 there | 06:36 |
| cjwatson | great, thanks, trying to set up an environment such that I can test my possible fix now | 06:36 |
| === gerv presumes mangling your menu.lst will do the trick? | ||
| cjwatson | probably, but I'd rather have a genuine dapper->edgy system to work with | 06:37 |
| gerv | Ah. But that might take some time :-) | 06:37 |
| cjwatson | "About 1 hours 18 minutes remaining" | 06:37 |
| gerv | Is there free software that does virtual machines and disk imaging and rollback and so on? | 06:37 |
| cjwatson | that's ok, the computer will do it while I do something more interesting | 06:37 |
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| cjwatson | gerv: I'm afraid I'm still using VMware, but I keep hearing good things about VirtualBox | 06:38 |
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| sharms | VirtualBox works good for me using windows guests | 07:14 |
| sharms | Wouldnt work with openbsd guest | 07:14 |
| sharms | And couldn't install virtualbox-tools on a suse 9 guest | 07:14 |
| jdong | sharms: I've got VB to kernel-panic my host on several occasions.... | 07:18 |
| jdong | especially when running certain apps within the VM | 07:19 |
| superm1 | cjwatson, Virtual box has worked wonderfully on all ubuntu guests i've tried | 07:30 |
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| tormod | tepsipakki: does your savage segfault at logout? bug #104188 | 08:16 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 104188 in xorg-server "[apport] Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in memcpy() on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104188 | 08:16 |
| jdong | bhale: has the beagle log verbosity thing been decreased yet? | 08:19 |
| jdong | bhale: it seems to produce like 5MB of logs per day for me still... | 08:20 |
| jdong | and like a big 700MB log on the initial index | 08:20 |
| bhale | jdong: no, it hasnt | 08:20 |
| bhale | we are in hard freeze | 08:20 |
| jdong | is that still planned for release? | 08:20 |
| bhale | it would be nice | 08:20 |
| jdong | yeah, definitely it'd be nice | 08:20 |
| bhale | i will ask tollef if i see him | 08:21 |
| jdong | awesome, thanks bhale | 08:21 |
| bhale | np | 08:22 |
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| sharms | anyone else on the newest update get multiple usplash progress bars? | 08:23 |
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| zyga | hello | 09:06 |
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| Saied | hi all, i have problem with pngtobogl command | 10:06 |
| Saied | the content of C source output file is "too many colors (256)" | 10:06 |
| Saied | what can i do to solve this problem? | 10:06 |
| Mithrandir | reduce the number of colours? | 10:06 |
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| Saied | Mithrandir: how many colors? | 10:07 |
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| Mithrandir | 16 | 10:08 |
| Mithrandir | iirc | 10:08 |
| Saied | Mithrandir: i examined with 128 colors but problem exists | 10:08 |
| Mithrandir | yes, bogl only supports 16 colours. | 10:08 |
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| Saied | Mithrandir: 16 colors? i think default kubuntu or ubuntu usplash-theme has more than 16 colors? are you sure? | 10:10 |
| Mithrandir | I don't believe it has, no. | 10:10 |
| Saied | Mithrandir: i use it for usplash customization according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto | 10:11 |
| Saied | Mithrandir: is there a link to kubuntu or ubuntu usplash images to find out number of colors? | 10:12 |
| Mithrandir | apt-get source usplash-theme-ubuntu ? | 10:13 |
| Seveas | Mithrandir, bogl supports more than 16 colors | 10:13 |
| Seveas | Mithrandir, vga16fb (one of the bogl backends) does not | 10:14 |
| Saied | Mithrandir: in that customization tutorial you can see "The image you use should have max. 256 colors" | 10:14 |
| Seveas | but the backend used on ppc (the only platform where usplash uses bogl now) supports more | 10:14 |
| Seveas | Saied, you should still include a 640x400x16 theme as fallback | 10:14 |
| Saied | Seveas: but i have "too many colors (256)" error. without any output | 10:15 |
| Seveas | Saied, which versio of ubuntu are you using? Dapper? | 10:15 |
| Saied | Seveas: feisty | 10:16 |
| Seveas | Saied, are you using pngtobogl? | 10:16 |
| Saied | Seveas: yes | 10:16 |
| Seveas | then you are reading the wrong tutorial | 10:16 |
| Seveas | and since this has nothing to do with ubuntu development, come to #ubuntu-offtopic :) | 10:17 |
| Saied | Seveas: which tutorial is correct? please guide me | 10:17 |
| sharms | Saied: he just guided you to ubuntu-offtopic, go there. | 10:18 |
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| WhiteFly | someone can tell how can i localize my custom app? | 11:29 |
| WhiteFly | some tutorial about it... | 11:29 |
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