[12:48] <sharms> is there any reason why gnome-terminal sets the TERM type as xterm, and not xterm-color
[12:50] <ds> xterm is in color
[02:00] <sharms> oooh look a new hot spec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/EnhancedBash
[02:13] <romuloubuntu> I would like to know how can I help on ubuntu development
[02:13] <romuloubuntu> I can code in C C++ and Java
[02:13] <romuloubuntu> and have a limited knowloedge about linux and ubuntu
[02:13] <romuloubuntu> i dont know much, but want to help
[02:14] <sharms> romuloubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers
[06:20] <dstanek> is there a good official set of instructions for upgrading to feisty? all i can find is forum posts with bits and pieces of information
[06:23] <LaserJock> dstanek: #ubuntu+1 is probably a better channel to ask, are you wanting to upgrade now?
[06:24] <Burgundavia> dstanek: there will be soon, via a set of release notes
[06:25] <dstanek> LaserJock: yep - i saw some interesting bugs that i would like to take a look at
[08:50] <ra21vi> hi
[08:50] <ra21vi> is there any performance enhancements in Feisty
[08:51] <ra21vi> everybuddy must be sleeping :)
[08:52] <ra21vi> exit
[10:37] <janimo> cjwatson: please let  thunar-volman-plugin through when you're around. thank you
[11:22] <cjwatson> janimo: grrr stop disappearing when I want to talk to you
[11:24] <cjwatson> hate drive-by IRC though
[11:29] <poningru> lol
[11:33] <elkbuntu> hmm... is it normal for mailing lists to have 170 people unsubscribe at precisely the same moment?
[11:33] <poningru> eek
[11:33] <mdke> I've had something similar on ubuntu-it
[11:34] <poningru> nothing on marketing like that
[11:34] <elkbuntu> mdke, -users had 170 an hour and a half ago
[11:34] <mdke> occasionally we have mass unsubscriptions caused by excessive bounces from one particular provider
[11:34] <mdke> same provider?
[11:34] <elkbuntu> multiple providers
[11:34] <mdke> maybe related to these problems we've been having with the list recently
[11:34] <elkbuntu> hmm.. maybe not
[11:34] <elkbuntu> apologies, all gmail
[11:35] <mdke> excessive bounces?
[11:35] <mdke> maybe gmail had some downtime
[11:36] <elkbuntu> no indication of bounces, no
[11:36] <mdke> given the traffic on -users, it probably doesn't take much downtime to get a lot of undelivered mail
[11:36] <mdke> what's the reason given for the unsubscription?
[11:36] <elkbuntu> im not admin, only mod, i dont get the reason
[11:36] <mdke> oh, right
[11:36] <elkbuntu> "#####@gmail.com has been removed from ubuntu-users."
[11:36] <elkbuntu> is all i see
[11:37] <mdke> best grab an admin, I guess
[11:40] <mdke> talking of bounces, I've had 800 so far from that wiki licensing email I just sent out... did anyone actually get it?
[11:40] <mdke> let's hope my provider isn't spam blocked or something
[11:40] <elkbuntu> i got it
[11:40] <mdke> okay
[11:41] <elkbuntu> some people do change email addresses like underwear though
[11:42] <cjwatson> I got it
[11:42] <elkbuntu> cjwatson, who's around i can poke to investigate this mass unsub?
[11:45] <mdke> a lot of these bounces seem to be related to me being blocked... oh well. Hopefully the majority are getting it
[11:45] <elkbuntu> mdke, i'm sure it will be blogged about, reposted, etc. the message will get out
[11:46] <mdke> yes, I've blogged it now and I'll use a few mailing lists too
[11:50] <mdke> looks like I was on spamhaus pbl, damn
[11:50] <mc44> mdke: i didnt get it at gmail
[11:51] <mdke> what's your address?
[11:52] <mc44> mdke: markc.lists etc
[11:53] <mdke> you're not in my list :)
[11:53] <mc44> oh i thought it was to a mailing list :)
[11:53] <mc44> sorry
[11:54] <mdke> should be anyone who has edited documentation on an ubuntu wiki, more or less
[12:06] <sacater> who controls the nvidia-glx development?
[12:07] <Fujitsu> sacater: NVIDIA, perhaps?
[12:07] <sacater> but who adds nivida-glx to universe?
[12:09] <Fujitsu> It's in restricted, and I'm not sure who.
[12:09] <poningru> I thought it was in multiverse
[12:09] <sacater> poningru: Fujitsu any way i can find out?
[12:10] <Fujitsu> No, restricted.
[12:10] <Fujitsu> sacater: It'll be the kernel team.
[12:10] <poningru> Ubuntu Kernel Team
[12:10] <poningru> yeah
[12:10] <poningru> Maintainer: Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com>
[12:24] <sacater> ok
[12:24] <sacater> thanks
[12:54] <rouzic> stgraber: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/94055
[12:54] <ubotu> Malone bug 94055 in xorg "MacBook Pro touchpad too sensitive in Feisty - kernel-2.6.20-12" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[12:54] <rouzic> please, disabled the touchpad in the macbook :(
[02:12] <gerv> Any boot process hackers about?
[02:30] <mako> mdke: did you get your issue handled?
[02:33] <elkbuntu> hi mako
[02:33] <mako> elkbuntu: hola
[02:34] <elkbuntu> mako, PM ok?
[02:39] <mako> yes
[02:47] <mdke> mako: yes thanks
[02:48] <mako> awesome, thanks
[03:05] <poningru> gerv: whats wrong?
[03:05] <gerv> I installed the Feisty beta.
[03:05] <gerv> It decided that my single-disk laptop needed mdadm
[03:05] <poningru> -> #ubuntu+1 ?
[03:05] <gerv> (which is a RAID thing)
[03:05] <cjwatson_> mdadm ?!
[03:05] <gerv> I tried in there.
[03:05] <cjwatson_> gerv: which installer?
[03:06] <gerv> I had some cluebie telling me to reformat my hard disk.
[03:06] <poningru> hmm thats weird
[03:06] <gerv> Later on, it emerged that he didn't even run Ubuntu.
[03:06] <cjwatson> gerv: (LTNS)
[03:06] <gerv> mdadm doesn't work, and my laptop won't boot.
[03:06] <poningru> buh
[03:06] <gerv> cjwatson: Not sure how to answer your installer question.
[03:06] <cjwatson> gerv: live CD-type installer, or text mode?
[03:06] <gerv> I did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
[03:06] <cjwatson> oh, I see
[03:07] <poningru> eek
[03:07] <cjwatson> gerv: originally installed pre-dapper?
[03:07] <gerv> I'm happy to take this elsewhere; I just came in here to try and find someone with a clue.
[03:07] <cjwatson> sorry, dapper or earlier, I mean
[03:07] <gerv> Originally installed with dapper, yes.
[03:07] <cjwatson> right, dapper installed mdadm regardless
[03:07] <gerv> (I think.)
[03:07] <cjwatson> we took it out in edgy
[03:07] <gerv> I can boot the laptop with a liveCD.
[03:08] <cjwatson> you should just be able to boot a live CD, mount your normal filesystem, chroot in, apt-get --purge remove mdadm, and eboot
[03:08] <gerv> Using that, I updated to the latest version of lots of stuff, as SJR asked me to do in the bug I filed.
[03:08] <cjwatson> reboot
[03:08] <gerv> I removed mdadm, but it still won't boot.
[03:08] <cjwatson> ok, so we can skip mdadm as the cause then
[03:08] <gerv> Well, it was an mdadm error which was the last thing the console printed.
[03:08] <gerv> But you are right, perhaps it's not that.
[03:08] <cjwatson> what does it do, drop you to an initramfs prompt?
[03:08] <gerv> I have a bug filed:
[03:08] <gerv> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mdadm/+bug/102148
[03:08] <ubotu> Malone bug 102148 in mdadm "Machine won't boot; mdadm says "no device listed..."" [Undecided,Confirmed]  
[03:09] <gerv> Yes, it eventually times out to an initramfs prompt.
[03:09] <gerv> Or, I can get one quicker using the boot option break=mount
[03:09] <gerv> (it takes about five minutes)
[03:10] <cjwatson> I think Scott missed the bit where you said you didn't actually have a RAID array
[03:10] <gerv> Ah :-)
[03:10] <gerv> I suspected that might be the case.
[03:10] <gerv> I did also say I had a laptop...
[03:10] <gerv> How many laptops have RAID arrays?
[03:10] <cjwatson> there are some freaks, but anyway
[03:10] <gerv> (Not including yours.)
[03:10] <cjwatson> mine doesn't. :-)
[03:10] <gerv> Oops.
[03:10] <gerv> Those two messages were typed at the same time!
[03:11] <gerv> Honest!
[03:11] <poningru> lol
[03:11] <cjwatson> have a look in /sys/block from the initramfs prompt to see if your hard disk is there
[03:11] <gerv> OK.
[03:11] <gerv> One second.
[03:11] <cjwatson> /sys/block/hda or /sys/block/sda or whateveer
[03:11] <gerv> What should it say?
[03:11] <gerv> Aha.
[03:11] <gerv> Can I use break=mount or must I wait for timeout?
[03:11] <cjwatson> if it's not there (as I suspect), then the kernel isn't detecting your disk
[03:12] <cjwatson> break=mount is fine
[03:12] <gerv> One sec...
[03:12] <gerv>  /sys/block/sda is present.
[03:12] <cjwatson> the other possibility with a reasonably good probability attached to it is that your bootloader is pointing to the wrong root filesystem; there's a particularly good chance of this if you're using lilo
[03:12] <gerv> (My disk, for some reason, shows up as SCSI when I'm pretty sure it's IDE.
[03:12] <gerv> I'm using GRUB.
[03:13] <cjwatson> most disks are sd* now, due to libata
[03:13] <gerv> OK.
[03:13] <gerv> so sda is there.
[03:13] <cjwatson> ok, is /dev/sda* there?
[03:13] <gerv> Yes.
[03:13] <gerv> I try:
[03:13] <gerv> mkdir /tmp/hd
[03:13] <gerv> mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/hd
[03:13] <gerv> and it says:
[03:13] <gerv> "Mounting /dev/sda1 on /tmp/hd failed: Invalid argument"
[03:14] <gerv> (Helpful, huh?)
[03:14] <cjwatson> so that's the kernel saying EINVAL
[03:14] <cjwatson> if you're lucky, dmesg might have more information
[03:14] <gerv> I have /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5.
[03:14] <gerv> Which I believe is correct.
[03:14] <gerv> dmesg: Not found.
[03:14] <cjwatson> argh silly busybox-initramfs
[03:14] <gerv> Neither is there a /var/log
[03:15] <poningru> gerv: can you try sda2?
[03:15] <cjwatson> try 'mount -t FSTYPE /dev/sdaWHATEVER'
[03:15] <gerv> poningru: Same problem.
[03:15] <gerv> And with 5.
[03:15] <cjwatson> er ... /tmp/hd
[03:15] <gerv> And with just /dev/sda.
[03:15] <gerv> OK.
[03:15] <gerv> Is it "-t ext" for ext3?
[03:15] <cjwatson> -t ext3
[03:15] <gerv> Aha!
[03:15] <gerv> That works.
[03:15] <cjwatson> ok, now, sounds like your grub configuration is wrong
[03:15] <gerv> I can see my root filesystem.
[03:16] <cjwatson> check /boot/grub/menu.lst in the root fs to see what root= says
[03:16] <gerv> One practical problem.
[03:16] <gerv> How do I view it?
[03:16] <poningru> cat
[03:16] <gerv> busybox has no editor, and no "more".
[03:16] <cjwatson> chroot, editor-of-choice
[03:16] <gerv> It scrolls off the screen.
[03:16] <cjwatson> 'chroot /tmp/hd' will work now ...
[03:16] <gerv> Aha.
[03:16] <gerv> One second, then.
[03:17] <StevenK> cjwatson: Do you have a moment to discuss a bug?
[03:17] <poningru> cjwatson: I can take over here if you want
[03:17] <gerv> OK.
[03:17] <cjwatson> StevenK: sure
[03:17] <cjwatson> poningru: *shrug*, I'm here for a little while
[03:17] <gerv> There are loads of stanzas.
[03:17] <poningru> cool
[03:17] <gerv> The first one has:
[03:17] <gerv> root     (hd0,0)
[03:18] <gerv> In fact, that all do.
[03:18] <poningru> wait thats it?
[03:18] <poningru> there isnt anything more?
[03:18] <cjwatson> no, he means that all the stanzas have that
[03:18] <gerv> No, there's lots.
[03:18] <poningru> oh...
[03:18] <gerv> default    0
[03:18] <StevenK> cjwatson: bug 96464 has had the 7.04 milestone added to it - my opinion is that it's a user error, a hard problem to solve and we should ignore it until Feisty+1. I just wanted to see if you (or someone else from -release) concurs.
[03:18] <ubotu> Malone bug 96464 in twiki "Twiki package: /usr/sbin/apachectl is not executable, exiting... " [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/96464
[03:18] <cjwatson> this is not surprising, I'm looking for the root= on the kernel line
[03:18] <gerv> Ah!
[03:19] <gerv> root=/dev/evms/hda1
[03:19] <cjwatson> bingo
[03:19] <gerv> Which is also true for all of them,
[03:19] <gerv> even the Edgy kernels.
[03:19] <StevenK> gerv: There's a groot option
[03:19] <cjwatson> kick evms in the nuts, change that to /dev/sda1 throughout, probably purge evms from your system, and reboot
[03:19] <gerv> !trout evms
[03:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about trout evms - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <StevenK> kopt, that is
[03:19] <poningru> lol
[03:19] <cjwatson> evms is another of the things we kicked out of standard post-dapper
[03:19] <StevenK> kopt=root=/dev/mapper/system-root ro
[03:20] <poningru> gerv: hey its better than firebot trust me
[03:20] <StevenK> And then run update-grub
[03:20] <gerv> cjwatson: Are you able to update the bug with a proper description of the problem?
[03:20] <StevenK> (Change your line to suit)
[03:20] <poningru> StevenK: he isnt on grub prompt
[03:20] <gerv> I would hate to think of lots of people upgrading from dapper having this issue.
[03:20] <StevenK> poningru: That's in menu.lst
[03:20] <gerv> cjwatson: How do I purge evms?
[03:20] <gerv> As in, dpkg --purge remove evms?
[03:20] <cjwatson> StevenK: can't we just check whether /usr/sbin/apachectl etc. exist? Checking for conffiles is well-known to be wrong.
[03:20] <cjwatson> gerv: apt-get --purge remove evms
[03:21] <cjwatson> gerv: sure, I'll update it. Did you upgrade straight to feisty from dapper, or via edgy?
[03:21] <gerv> Via edgy.
[03:21] <cjwatson> ok
[03:21] <gerv> For quite a while, I ran edgy.
[03:21] <poningru> StevenK: oh did not know that
[03:21] <StevenK> cjwatson: That error (which I find I can't reproduce to blow up) is from invoke-rc.d apache.
[03:21] <gerv> Am I supposed to ignore StevenK? That's another problem, right? :-)
[03:22] <cjwatson> StevenK: sure, but you can [ -x /usr/sbin/apachectl ]  or whatever independently
[03:22] <cjwatson> I don't think "package removed but not purged" counts as user error
[03:22] <gerv> I can't purge evms - dpkg complains about not being able to find install-info and update-rc.d.
[03:23] <cjwatson> though I'm also not entirely convinced it's release-critical
[03:23] <gerv> Is it compulsory, or can I do it once I've booted.
[03:23] <gerv> ?
[03:23] <cjwatson> gerv: ok, don't worry about purging it just yet
[03:23] <gerv> OK.
[03:23] <gerv> cjwatson: You can say in the bug that I'm available to help with any further debugging I can do.
[03:24] <cjwatson> done
[03:24] <cjwatson> I reassigned the bug to grub
[03:24] <gerv> It doesn't boot, but that's because I've just realised I removed evms but didn't change hda1 to sda1.
[03:24] <cjwatson> note /dev/sda1 not /dev/evms/sda1
[03:25] <cjwatson> the evms is a bogus remnant of slightly-dodgy UUID detection
[03:25] <gerv> Is a bogus remnant anything like a not-carefully-reading scott james remnant?
[03:25] <StevenK> cjwatson: Right, I have a slightly dodgy fix for the other open twiki bug, I will only restart apache* if apachectl is executable
[03:26] <gerv> :-)
[03:26] <cjwatson> I suspect Scott was frantically trying to get through triaging about a million boot bugs before release
[03:26] <gerv> Sure.
[03:27] <gerv> No blame, just amusement :-)
[03:27] <gerv> I'm sure he's a busy guy.
[03:27] <StevenK> gerv: Oh my God, can we keep you?
[03:27] <StevenK> A bug happens and you show amusement, not blame or frustration.
[03:28] <StevenK> cjwatson: I seem to recall evms being installed on my bosses Feisty machine ...
[03:29] <StevenK> I also recall having to take it out the back and neuter it.
[03:29] <cjwatson> indeed, if he upgraded from dapper or before
[03:29] <StevenK> No, fresh install, which is what worries me
[03:29] <gerv> In fact, 32-mount.
[03:29] <cjwatson> StevenK: no code that'd do that to my knowledge
[03:29] <gerv> Thanks everyone!
[03:29] <cjwatson> gerv: thanks for the help tracking it down
[03:29] <gerv> Gotta run now, but will clean everything up and get it working properly later.
[03:29] <gerv> No problem.
[03:30] <gerv> Thanks for being the guy with a clue :-)
[03:30] <StevenK> Hrm. I suspect it's been reinstalled since.
[03:30] <StevenK> Pity.
[03:30] <cjwatson> I'm not certain we can do anything about it for feisty, but can certainly look at it for the LTS-to-LTS upgrade problem that we need to sit down and solve at some point
[03:30] <StevenK> Conflicts: are fun. Although it smacks of 'killing a fly with a 30-pound sledgehammer'
[03:31] <gerv> cjwatson: My problem or his?
[03:31] <cjwatson> gerv: yours
[03:31] <cjwatson> I'd like to, but it's just so close to RC and with public holidays ... I did set the milestone though
[03:31] <gerv> I upgraded using the applet thingy.
[03:32] <cjwatson> and bumped priority
[03:32] <gerv> If this happens to a significant number of people, this could be Really Bad(TM).
[03:32] <cjwatson> so it is on the list, if it can be crammed in
[03:32] <gerv> OK.
[03:32] <gerv> I'll wait and see what happens :-)
[03:34] <cjwatson> right answer might be to try to transition stuff of the form /dev/evms/hda1 to UUID but not /dev/evms/<otherstuff
[03:34] <cjwatson> >
[03:34] <cjwatson> it's a slightly thorny problem - really a case of working around edgy's bugs
[03:34] <cjwatson> but edgy's bugs have become relevant now that /dev/hda => /dev/sda for you
[03:35] <StevenK> cjwatson: I wonder if sd* get sucked into that as well, such as /dev/evms/[sh] d*
[03:35] <cjwatson> I'd be surprised if they didn't - but we can't guarantee exactly how the hd* -> sd* transition will work from userspace, hence UUIDs
[03:42] <cjwatson> ok, I have a very tentative patch for that
[03:53] <StevenK> cjwatson: Do you want to see a debdiff for this twiki bug fix?
[03:54] <cjwatson> StevenK: sure
[03:55] <StevenK> cjwatson: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/twiki.debdiff
[03:56] <cjwatson> StevenK: it's /usr/sbin/apachectl, not /usr/bin/apachectl
[03:56] <StevenK> DOH!
[03:56] <cjwatson> doesn't apache2 need to be restarted?
[03:56] <cjwatson> in which case you should check apache2|apache2-*) if [ -x /usr/sbin/apache2ctl ] ; then continue; fi ;; or whatever
[03:57] <StevenK> Okay, I'll also check for apache2ctl
[03:57] <cjwatson> I'd use grep -q -- -b
[03:58] <cjwatson> though dunno, maybe -e is more portable after all, I just don't trust it to terminate options
[03:58] <cjwatson> looks ok otherwise
[03:59] <cjwatson> in my own packages I often prefer to stick a trivial portable-shell version of which(1) at the top of the script and use it as a function rather than hardcoding paths
[03:59] <cjwatson> but YMMV
[03:59] <StevenK> cjwatson: I've never had any problems with grep -e
[03:59] <StevenK> cjwatson: That part of the patch strikes me as really dirty. I blame mini-httpd
[04:00] <cjwatson> /usr/bin/which is more or less my code aside from some crackful and wrong option parsing that somebody stuck in there, so I use a reduced version of that
[04:01] <cjwatson> you can see it e.g. in base-passwd.postinst
[04:02] <StevenK> cjwatson: debdiff updated.
[04:04] <cjwatson> yup, looks fine
[04:05] <cjwatson> argh, which -a was added due to Dan Jacobson
[04:06] <cjwatson> as I wrote it, which intentionally had no option parsing whatsoever in order that you could safely use it on any string without having to care about escaping
[04:06] <cjwatson> though I suppose at least you can now put -- in front
[04:13] <StevenK> cjwatson: twiki uploaded. Thanks for your help.
[04:18] <Adri2000> cjwatson: I would like to do an update of devscripts. I need a sponsor and I need your approval (since it's main), the debdiff is at http://adrishost.homeip.net/~adri2000/ubuntu/devscripts_2.9.27ubuntu13.debdiff
[04:20] <Adri2000> cjwatson: currently requestsync doesn't work because of "distros/ubuntu": example: "Failing command: affects distros/ubuntu/mantis" "There is no project named 'distros' registered in Launchpad."
[04:29] <Mirv> uh oh, Gaim is now Pidgin.
[04:34] <cjwatson> Adri2000: I would change 'tla | bazaar' to 'bzr | tla | bazaar' rather than 'tla | bzr' - there's code in devscripts that legitimately does use baz
[04:34] <cjwatson> Adri2000: aside from that your changes are fine, but please find another sponsor as I'm trying not to spend too much time on work today
[04:36] <Adri2000> ok, thanks
[04:43] <Adri2000> debdiff updated, if any core-dev is available: please upload it
[05:15] <tan_> Hi, does anyone know who I could contact regarding the google SoC?
[05:38] <dotwaffle> Anyone seen Keybuk recently?
[05:38] <dotwaffle> re: Upstart.
[05:39] <Hobbsee> he's on holidays for a copule of days, iirc.
[05:39] <cjwatson> he was in our London office Tue-Thu, and is now on holiday until next Tue
[05:39] <cjwatson> (UK public holidays)
[05:40] <dotwaffle> Ah, ok, no worries. Demoscener here was interested in chatting to him re: getting CPU intensive/Low IO load graphical startup. Will chat to him when he return ;0
[05:40] <dotwaffle> Thanks.
[05:40] <dotwaffle> Back to the demoparty ;) www.demoscene.tv if people care...
[06:34] <gerv> cjwatson: I've now booted successfully, and run update-grub, which stuck UUIDs into my menu.lst, and now it boots on its own fine.
[06:34] <gerv> Thanks :-)
[06:36] <cjwatson> ah yes, update-grub would have done that once you put /dev/sda1 there
[06:36] <cjwatson> great, thanks, trying to set up an environment such that I can test my possible fix now
[06:37] <cjwatson> probably, but I'd rather have a genuine dapper->edgy system to work with
[06:37] <gerv> Ah. But that might take some time :-)
[06:37] <cjwatson> "About 1 hours 18 minutes remaining"
[06:37] <gerv> Is there free software that does virtual machines and disk imaging and rollback and so on?
[06:37] <cjwatson> that's ok, the computer will do it while I do something more interesting
[06:38] <cjwatson> gerv: I'm afraid I'm still using VMware, but I keep hearing good things about VirtualBox
[07:14] <sharms> VirtualBox works good for me using windows guests
[07:14] <sharms> Wouldnt work with openbsd guest
[07:14] <sharms> And couldn't install virtualbox-tools on a suse 9 guest
[07:18] <jdong> sharms: I've got VB to kernel-panic my host on several occasions....
[07:19] <jdong> especially when running certain apps within the VM
[07:30] <superm1> cjwatson, Virtual box has worked wonderfully on all ubuntu guests i've tried
[08:16] <tormod> tepsipakki: does your savage segfault at logout? bug #104188
[08:16] <ubotu> Malone bug 104188 in xorg-server "[apport]  Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV in memcpy() on logout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104188
[08:19] <jdong> bhale: has the beagle log verbosity thing been decreased yet?
[08:20] <jdong> bhale: it seems to produce like 5MB of logs per day for me still...
[08:20] <jdong> and like a big 700MB log on the initial index
[08:20] <bhale> jdong: no, it hasnt
[08:20] <bhale> we are in hard freeze
[08:20] <jdong> is that still planned for release?
[08:20] <bhale> it would be nice
[08:20] <jdong> yeah, definitely it'd be nice
[08:21] <bhale> i will ask tollef if i see him
[08:21] <jdong> awesome, thanks bhale
[08:22] <bhale> np
[08:23] <sharms> anyone else on the newest update get multiple usplash progress bars?
[09:06] <zyga> hello
[10:06] <Saied> hi all, i have problem with pngtobogl command
[10:06] <Saied> the content of C source output file is "too many colors (256)"
[10:06] <Saied> what can i do to solve this problem?
[10:06] <Mithrandir> reduce the number of colours?
[10:07] <Saied> Mithrandir: how many colors?
[10:08] <Mithrandir> 16
[10:08] <Mithrandir> iirc
[10:08] <Saied> Mithrandir: i examined with 128 colors but problem exists
[10:08] <Mithrandir> yes, bogl only supports 16 colours.
[10:10] <Saied> Mithrandir: 16 colors? i think default kubuntu or ubuntu usplash-theme has more than 16 colors? are you sure?
[10:10] <Mithrandir> I don't believe it has, no.
[10:11] <Saied> Mithrandir: i use it for usplash customization according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[10:12] <Saied> Mithrandir: is there a link to kubuntu or ubuntu usplash images to find out number of colors?
[10:13] <Mithrandir> apt-get source usplash-theme-ubuntu ?
[10:13] <Seveas> Mithrandir, bogl supports more than 16 colors
[10:14] <Seveas> Mithrandir, vga16fb (one of the bogl backends) does not
[10:14] <Saied> Mithrandir: in that customization tutorial you can see "The image you use should have max. 256 colors"
[10:14] <Seveas> but the backend used on ppc (the only platform where usplash uses bogl now) supports more 
[10:14] <Seveas> Saied, you should still include a 640x400x16 theme as fallback
[10:15] <Saied> Seveas: but i have "too many colors (256)" error. without any output
[10:15] <Seveas> Saied, which versio of ubuntu are you using? Dapper?
[10:16] <Saied> Seveas: feisty
[10:16] <Seveas> Saied, are you using pngtobogl?
[10:16] <Saied> Seveas: yes
[10:16] <Seveas> then you are reading the wrong tutorial
[10:17] <Seveas> and since this has nothing to do with ubuntu development, come to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:17] <Saied> Seveas: which tutorial is correct? please guide me
[10:18] <sharms> Saied: he just guided you to ubuntu-offtopic, go there.
[11:29] <WhiteFly> someone can tell how can i localize my custom app?
[11:29] <WhiteFly> some tutorial about it...