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ricidoes anyone know why when i start gvim on xubuntu it complains about /usr/bin/esd not existing? Or, better yet, how I can get it to not complain, other than installing esd or using a crude workaround?12:24
ricii couldn't find esd in any obvious config files, but there are a lot of them...12:25
maxamillionrici: which package of gvim did you install?12:25
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ricivim-full12:27
ricimaxamillion: i had to use vim-full to get clientserver, because it got left out of the normal install for god knows what reason12:27
riciperhaps people don't know how useful it is.12:28
maxamillionah12:28
maxamillionyeah ... no clue12:28
maxamillioni installed vim-gtk and life is good12:29
ricii just symlinked /usr/bin/esd to /bin/true to squelch the error, but it seems like that shouldn't be necessary :)12:31
maxamillionyeah ... it really should12:34
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ablomenhey, xubuntu feisty doesnt boot right, cant even edit root files, what happend?12:52
maxamillionablomen: not sure ... there was a kernel update today, could have borked something12:52
ablomen:(12:52
ablomendamn, stuck on windowz now12:53
maxamillioni'm not sure it did ... just might have12:53
ablomenwell the weird thing is, i cant even run root commands12:53
PiTcReWwhats improved in feisty?12:53
riciok, i've got another obscure gvim question. when i send a command to the server, it raises the gvim window but doesn't give it keyboard focus. is there some window manager tweak i need to get that to work?12:53
ablomenshouldnt be kernel trouble should it?12:53
maxamillionablomen: wait ... you can boot and login but not run sudo commands?12:54
maxamillionrici: not entirely sure to be honest, but that would probably be a good place to check12:55
riciyeah, i did, in both window manager settings and window manager tweaks12:55
maxamilliongotta run12:55
ablomenmaxamillion, well, i start booting, i press ctr+alt+del and it goes into terminal mode (tries to start gdm but cant) then i cant run sudo commands12:56
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PiTcReWxfce is skinnable isnt it?12:57
PiTcReWsorry if that was a really dumb question, i just switched from windows 2 days ago12:57
BFTDyes12:57
PiTcReWthanks12:59
PiTcReWand does anyone know a good xdcc list browser script for x-chat01:01
PiTcReWi googled and had no luck01:01
lypsisisnt really Xubuntu related... but here is one i used some time ago (small & simple, but it serves the purpose) => http://www.student.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/~sf1017/xdcc-client/xdcc-client.pl01:10
PiTcReWhmmm01:11
lypsisif you wanna something like the xdccklipper script for mirc, wish you luck you find one, i didn't01:11
PiTcReWyeah thats what im lookin for01:11
PiTcReW:(01:11
lypsis:/01:11
PiTcReWhmmm01:11
PiTcReWhow do you configure obsidian01:11
PiTcReWtheres no man01:11
lypsisobsidian?01:11
PiTcReWand when i type /fs it gives me a list of commands01:11
PiTcReWits an fserve script01:12
lypsissorry dont know :)01:12
PiTcReWits all good01:12
PiTcReWi think i found somethin01:12
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PiTcReWhey where is the x-chat directory?01:14
BFTDits hidden01:15
BFTD~/.xchat201:15
PiTcReWyeah but where?01:15
PiTcReWalright01:15
PiTcReWthanks01:15
PiTcReWso if i put a perl script in that directory it would automatically load?01:18
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DJAnubisokay01:26
DJAnubisI want to run wine and games, what xubuntu should I get?01:27
DJAnubisdapper, edgy, or feisty01:27
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DJAnubisI'm guessing not feisty because it's unstable to the max, but someone said that edgy was unstable as well...01:28
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DJAnubisbut does dapper run wine and games well enough to not risk edgy?01:28
maxamillionDJAnubis: yeah, just get the newer version from winehq.com instead of the one in the dapper repositories01:29
DJAnubisalright, thanks :D01:29
maxamillionnp01:30
DJAnubisso...for this I would go where in the downloads section?01:30
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DJAnubisjust ubuntu?01:31
DJAnubisI'd ask in their channel but I just riled up a storm on accident01:31
maxamillionDJAnubis: yeah, just ubuntu ... xubuntu shares the same repositories as ubuntu so its the same underlying system01:32
DJAnubisroger that01:32
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DJAnubisalright, time for food, cya geekz and einz later when I upgrade from kubuntu to xubuntu01:33
maxamillion:)01:33
DJAnubisI've heard it's better anyways ;D01:33
maxamillioni like to think so01:33
_spazhi _CodemanMob_01:34
PiTcReWxubuntu is fast as fuck01:35
_spazO_o01:35
_spazlanguage please01:35
PiTcReWsorry01:35
_spazwell i don't mind, but the guys in charge might >_>01:36
PiTcReWoh , thanks for telling me01:36
PiTcReWi don't want to get banned or anything01:36
_spaznp, just be careful :)01:36
PiTcReWcould someone test my fserve for me?01:37
PiTcReWplease01:37
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tropicanahello01:37
_spazPiTcReW: sure01:37
PiTcReWtype /ctcp PiTcReW !lakaiordiee01:37
tropicanaim havin some probs logigng in01:37
PiTcReWthanks01:37
maxamillionPiTcReW: we don't ban around here on first offense ;) ... usually takes like 3-5 :)01:37
PiTcReWalright thanks for the info01:38
tropicanacan any1 help me out?01:38
PiTcReWi appreciate it01:38
PiTcReWhmmmm01:38
PiTcReWspaz01:38
PiTcReWwhat pops up?01:38
PiTcReWnothing?01:38
_spaz19:38 [ctcp(PiTcReW)]  !LAKAIORDIEE01:38
_spazthat's it01:38
maxamilliontropicana: what kind of problems are you having logging in?01:38
PiTcReWjunkk01:38
tropicanamaxamillion, when i try to log in to my root account, it briefly shows the desktop and then restarts01:39
_spaztropicana: are you trying to login as root on the gui?01:39
tropicana_spaz, im logging in to my main acount01:40
_spazoic01:40
_spazhmm...01:40
tropicanayeah01:40
maxamilliontropicana: you should never graphically log in as root01:40
_spazindeed01:40
tropicanamaxamillion, its not root, its my main account, the admin account?01:40
maxamilliontropicana: wait, you are logging in as the suder user? ... oh, hmmm01:40
_spazoh, that's fine01:40
tropicanayes01:40
_spaztry this:01:40
tropicanabut i can log in to another account i made01:40
maxamillionthat's a little strange that its doing that01:40
_spazoh...01:41
tropicanai even tried failsafe gnome01:41
_spazi had a similar problem once tropicana01:41
tropicanaoh01:41
tropicana_spaz, what did u do?01:41
_spazyou'll have to recreate the account :(01:41
_spazbut...01:41
tropicanaoh dam01:41
_spazdo it so you don't remove your home :)01:41
tropicanamm01:41
tropicanatheres no otehr way?01:41
_spazi tried, sorry :/01:41
tropicanamaxamillion, any ideas?01:42
tropicanahow do i recreate the account?01:43
maxamilliontropicana: wait ... you said you tried failsafe gnome? ... you are using gnome?01:43
tropicanawell01:44
tropicanai have gnome and xfce01:44
tropicanaand right now, xfce works with the other account01:44
maxamilliontropicana: ok, do ctrl+alt+f1 and login to the command line01:45
tropicanathen wat01:46
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tropicanai wont be able to talk here anymore01:46
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_Codeman_Hey, I need help... does xubuntu support DLink dl120 wifi card?01:46
maxamilliontropicana: well does the account you are logged into have sudo privilaged?01:47
maxamillionprivilages*01:47
tropicanaum01:47
tropicanaim not sure01:47
maxamillionthen no01:47
maxamilliontropicana: what is the name of the other account?01:47
tropicanai named it robert01:48
tropicanawhen i installed xubuntu01:48
maxamilliontropicana: ok, open a terminal window and type "su robert" and then type the password for that account when it asks01:48
tropicanak01:48
tropicanaok01:48
tropicanadone01:48
maxamillionok .... just a minute01:49
tropicanak01:49
tropicanaeck, now wat01:49
tropicanaops01:49
soweto76_Codeman_, DLink model names don't reliably specify what kind of chip is actually there.  lspci will give you some information on the chip which can be used to search in the Ubuntu forums.01:49
soweto76_Codeman_, DLink model names don't reliably specify what kind of chip is actually there.  lspci will give you some information on the chip which can be used to search in the Ubuntu forums.01:50
maxamillionsoweto76: please don't double post01:50
soweto76maxamillion, forgive me the post did not show up here, sorry01:50
maxamillionsoweto76: oh, no worries :)01:51
_Codeman_soweto76: Ok, thanks01:51
maxamilliontropicana: ok, now type "cd /home/robert/.config/xfce4-sessions/"01:52
tropicanano such file01:52
tropicanaor directory01:52
maxamilliontropicana: uhmmm.... ok01:53
tropicanamaybe it's because i use gnome ?01:53
tropicanawell, more often01:53
maxamilliontropicana: shouldn't matter ... if you have xfce installed that file should be there01:53
maxamilliontropicana: have you ever logged into xfce4 with that account?01:53
tropicanayes01:54
tropicanabefore i had gnome, i wud all the time01:54
maxamillionyeah, then that folder should still be there01:54
Qewdid you name it Robert or robert?01:55
tropicanarobert01:55
Qewoh well01:55
soweto76maxamillion, you put an "s" on sessions01:55
maxamillionlol .. so i did01:55
maxamilliontropicana: ok, now type "cd /home/robert/.config/xfce4-session/" :)01:56
maxamillionsoweto76: thanks ... good eye ;)01:56
tropicanalmao01:56
tropicanathere we go01:56
maxamilliontropicana: now type "rm xfce4-session.rc" and then try to login with that account again01:56
tropicanausing xfce?01:56
maxamilliontropicana: yes01:57
tropicanaok brb01:57
maxamillionk01:57
_Codeman_soweto76: Oh, I guess I should mention, the wifi card is USB01:57
maxamillion_Codeman_: yes, that would have been valuable info ;)01:57
_Codeman_lol sorry01:57
soweto76_Codeman_, lsusb  man lsusb   might help then01:57
_Codeman_ok thanks01:58
soweto76lsusb -v  perhaps01:58
b52laptophi guys late consider my hosts name is x-laptop , when i ping him i receive the adress of my eth0(great it's wokring) , but wheni ping x-laptop:1521  , not known host01:59
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b52laptop?01:59
tropicanano01:59
tropicanait didnt work01:59
tropicanait showed my desktop01:59
tropicanathen kicked me out01:59
maxamillionb52laptop: do you have that port open?02:00
tropicanamm02:00
b52laptopmaxamillion,  i have no firewall running and oracle installed so yeah this port should be open02:00
maxamilliontropicana: can you login with that account in gnome?02:00
tropicanamaxamillion, didnt try but probably not02:01
tropicanasince the last few times it didnt work02:01
maxamilliontropicana: well, try ... i need to know if this is an account problem or a xfce problem02:01
maxamilliontropicana: o02:01
tropicanamaxamillion, i cant log in with any of the options02:01
maxamilliontropicana: nvm, if it hasn't been able to log into gnome in the past i doubt it will now02:01
tropicanammm02:01
b52laptop:(02:02
tropicanawhen i log in with failsafe gnome, it gives me some errors02:02
tropicanabut they disappear too quickly02:02
maxamillionstrange02:03
maxamillioni need to go .... very sorry ... maybe ask in #ubuntu02:03
soweto76tropicana, cat .xsesson-errors02:03
tropicanano suc file or directory02:04
_spazbrb02:04
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tropicana=\02:04
soweto76tropicana, spelling?  cat .xsession-errors02:04
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tropicanaoh02:05
tropicanathere we go02:05
tropicanasoveto76, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14321/02:06
tropicanasoweto76, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14321/02:06
tropicanawat do u make of it>02:06
tropicana?02:06
soweto76not much :)02:07
tropicanalmao02:07
tropicanagg02:07
tropicanawell thanks anyways02:07
tropicanaim off02:07
tropicanasee ya02:07
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_Codeman_ok, so I got the info... what should I search for?02:08
soweto76_Codeman_, can you guess the name of the chip in that mess?02:08
Qewb52laptop: ping sees that as a wrong address, not as an address with a port value. If you omit the ":1521", it should ping.02:08
b52laptopQew,  ping med-laptop:152102:09
b52laptopping: unknown host med-laptop:152102:09
_Codeman_I would probably guess Atmel Corp at76c503a02:09
Qewomit the :152102:09
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soweto76_Codeman_, looks likely02:10
soweto76_Codeman_, maybe search for atmel to begin with02:10
b52laptopQew,  i want to ping on the port 152102:10
b52laptopi know in ping on the host name02:10
Qewyeah, but ping can't do that02:10
b52laptophmmmm02:10
b52laptopah ok02:10
Qewit's just seeing that as part of the address02:11
b52laptopok02:11
ormiretyou cna use telnet to see if you can connect to the port02:12
soweto76_Codeman_, maybe atmel usb02:12
Qewyeah, try that02:12
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b52laptopok02:12
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soweto76_Codeman_, http://sourceforge.net/projects/atmelwlandriver/02:16
soweto76_Codeman_, apt-cache search atmel02:17
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soweto76_Codeman_, you will need to add the multiverse repository for apt02:20
soweto76_Codeman_, looks like a big mess but fun if you like this sort of thing ;)02:21
_Codeman_how do I do that?02:21
soweto76do what?02:21
_Codeman_add the multiverse repository02:22
soweto76_Codeman_, System -> Synaptic Package Manager02:22
soweto76_Codeman_, Synaptic -> settings -> repositories02:23
odathow do i solve a kernel panic from the installation cd02:23
_Codeman_will that operation require internet?02:24
Nameless-Onehey can someone assist me, when compiling some software i get the error:02:24
Nameless-One"/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXt"   ...   "collect2: ld returned 1 exit status"02:24
Nameless-Onewhat package do i have to install to get this "-lxt" thing, its in one of the x11 dev packages but i'm not sure which one and i cant just install them all02:24
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soweto76_Codeman_, well, to use the repository you will of course need the Internet02:25
_Codeman_ok... so do I download the file from SF and then install that... then the card works and then do the repository thing? cuz if not I won't be able to do it02:26
soweto76_Codeman_, not sure what you are getting into here -- over my head.  look at apt-cache show atmel-firmware02:27
ormiretodat: you'll need to figure out what is causing the panic, what kind of messages did you get before it, have a look in /var/log/dmesg and kern.log (on your installed system not the live CD).02:27
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soweto76_Codeman_, use the ubuntu package from multiverse -- advisable but read the SF stuff too.02:28
ormiret_Codeman_: you can get packages from packages.ubuntu.com and transfer them by disk to the target machine (but you have to get the dependencies too).02:29
_Codeman_if I understand you correctly... I need internet to get my wifi card working... but that computer's only internet access is via wifi02:29
odatormiret  crc error02:29
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_Codeman_ok, maybe I should go for the dual boot thing first...02:30
ormiretodat: on what?02:30
soweto76_Codeman_, gotcha!  Well, I hope the box has a ethernet port!  You will need an Internet connection to use Synaptic to get the packages02:30
odatormiret, i am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop and once i select the install option it give me the error crc error system halt02:31
ormiretodat: you're getting this on the livecd? In that case it's likely to be a bad disk, run the disk check from the boot menu to make sure.02:32
_Codeman_soweto76: It has one but the computer is nowhere near the router... anyway, after reading the dual boot help I thing the install missed my Windows installation02:34
soweto76_Codeman_, It would probably be easier to move the puter to the ethernet in the long run.  That wifi might be a bit tricky to setup.02:36
soweto76_Codeman_, Sorry I could not provide more useful instructions.  Good Luck!02:39
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bur[n] eranyone know what command I could use to bind to a hotkey to control volume hte xfce way?  can xfce4-mixer accept stuff?03:02
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ricidoes anyone know of a command line utility or other simple way to tell a window manager to give keyboard focus to a specific window?04:28
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DJAnubishai04:50
ormirethi DJAnubis04:52
DJAnubisdoes anyone know how I can make this font less ow?04:53
ormiretThere are antialiasing options in one of the settings dialogues.04:55
DJAnubishm04:56
DJAnubiswow04:57
DJAnubisthat's amazing04:57
DJAnubiswell, I found the fonts in looking for anti-aliasing04:58
DJAnubisand that's what I meant. sorry04:58
DJAnubislol04:58
DJAnubisst looks all funny now04:59
DJAnubiswhateva04:59
ormiret:)04:59
DJAnubisty04:59
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miyakohello- I just installed xubuntu-desktop and am attempting to get Beryl to work.  I have Beryl working under KDE and Gnome, however when I attempt to launch beryl manager from XFCE, the X server dies.  I'm using AIGLX.05:03
DJAnubispossible help with soundcard setup?05:03
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fischerI don't know too much about sound card setup, but you will find a very extensive guide here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Cirrus_Logic#matrix05:05
DJAnubis:o05:05
DJAnubisuh...05:06
fischerhttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php05:06
DJAnubisI'm meaning, where can I choose what soundcard I'm using and the volume at which it's being used05:06
fischerI am not currently sitting at my Xubuntu box, (using an old fluxbuntu machine right now) so I'll try to do this from memory... right-click on your panel and add an item.  Find the volume manager and add it.  Xubuntu is pretty good about locating your soundcard for you.05:08
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fischerAny luck?05:12
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DJAnubisnope05:17
DJAnubisI'm getting zero sound05:17
crimsunDJAnubis: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems05:18
crimsunthen tell me the url05:18
DJAnubisk05:21
fischerDJAnubis, the link that I posted earlier is wrong.  That one will point you to the right driver once you know the chipset of your soundcard, but check out this soundcard setup guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20544905:23
DJAnubisAWRAWRAWR....and pastebin doesn't work...05:24
ormiretworks from here...05:26
DJAnubisow05:28
DJAnubisman my eyes hurt05:29
DJAnubisokay, I'm confused now05:29
DJAnubishttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+Audigy+ES.&chip=emu10k2&module=emu10k1#Inst05:29
DJAnubisthat's where I'm at now05:29
DJAnubisspeaking of roots, I've got a root canal and it's hurting, it's not supposed to hurt, damnit05:30
DJAnubisbloody dentist's gonna get sued05:30
ormiretDJAnubis: you shouldn't need to go through that procedure unless your card isn't supported out of the box.05:31
ormiretDo you have snd* modules loaded out of the box?05:31
DJAnubisoops, wrong card05:31
DJAnubisit's the Sound Blaster Audigy SE05:32
ormiretwhat does 'lshw -c multimedia' get you?05:32
DJAnubissnd* modules?05:32
ormiretsorry that chould be -C05:33
DJAnubisit gives me nothing but format, oh05:33
DJAnubish/o05:33
DJAnubisI'll try pastebinning it05:33
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DJAnubisis there another place I can do that?05:34
ormiret!pastebin05:35
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)05:35
ormiretor is that where you were trying already?05:35
DJAnubishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14334/05:35
DJAnubisI was doing pastebin.com05:35
crimsunah, you have an onboard and a severely crippled SB "Live"05:36
crimsuncongratulations on your craptacular purchase.05:36
DJAnubis?05:37
DJAnubiswhat do you mean?05:37
crimsunhardware driven by snd-ca0106 can be summed up in a monosyllabic word: "crap".05:37
DJAnubisthat card works wonderfully in windows05:37
crimsunthat's Creative's marketing gimmicks05:38
DJAnubisokay, thanks, stop being a dick about it and tell me if I can do anything about it?05:38
crimsunI'm waiting for the stuff I asked for05:38
DJAnubissuch as?05:38
crimsun23:18 < crimsun> DJAnubis: pastebin the requested info from http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems05:38
crimsun23:18 < crimsun> then tell me the url05:38
DJAnubis...I...you...I did that then you told me, "oh wait, I meant this"05:39
DJAnubisdangit05:39
crimsunI what?05:39
crimsunI've been waiting for 20 minutes05:39
DJAnubisocrap05:39
DJAnubisI'm going to cry05:39
DJAnubisfischer and you have similar looking names at thisdistance05:40
DJAnubisI'm so sorry05:41
crimsunno prob, just post that info ASAP.05:42
DJAnubishttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14335/05:42
DJAnubisthere05:42
DJAnubisI hope I'm talking to the same person05:42
DJAnubishm05:43
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_Codeman_what is the website for dl'ing the packages05:54
ormiretpackages.ubuntu.com05:54
_Codeman_makes sense05:55
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_Codeman_are udev and hotplug similar?05:57
_Codeman_Is there a package iso I can dl?06:00
crimsunerr, djanubis parted. Sigh.06:00
fischercrimsun, I'm currently experimenting with an old P2 Thinkpad and am using fluxbuntu on this machine.  Cannot seem to get my sound card configured either.  Words of wisdom?06:02
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fischer  *-multimedia UNCLAIMED06:02
fischer       description: Multimedia audio controller06:02
fischer       product: CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator] 06:02
fischer       vendor: Cirrus Logic06:02
fischer       physical id: 606:02
fischer       bus info: pci@00:06.006:02
fischer       version: 0106:02
fischer       width: 32 bits06:02
fischer       clock: 33MHz06:02
fischer       resources: iomemory:50100000-50100fff iomemory:50000000-500fffff irq:1106:02
crimsunfischer: which TP?06:03
fischer770Z06:04
crimsunI'm pretty sure you need snd-cs4232 instead of snd-cs46xx06:04
fischerOk, thanks.  I'll give that a try.06:04
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crimsunno, use snd-cs4236 instead. Sorry.06:06
crimsunmake sure QuickBoot is disabled in bios.06:06
crimsunhttp://trilug.org/~crimsun/tp-init-snd-cs4236.sh06:07
fischerplease forgive my ignorance... do I need to execute your script, or should I plant that within Alsa or somewhere else?06:10
crimsundownload it and invoke it from /etc/rc.local06:10
_Codeman_So, the only way to install packages is through the internet?06:11
crimsun_Codeman_: no, you can install them from any legit apt source, including a cdrom.06:12
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_Codeman_are there any "default package" iso's out there?06:13
tonyyarussoIsn't that all of them?06:14
crimsunwell, maybe he means "default Kubuntu packages" in a Xubuntu iso. :-)06:14
_Codeman_I mean an iso with packages like udev, perl, stuff like that... basically a bunch of packages that would be dependencies for other packages06:15
_Codeman_cuz hunting them all down myself could take... weeks or months lol06:16
tonyyarussoSounds like any alternate CD is your friend - or the 6 DVD set06:16
_Codeman_I have an alt disk06:16
fischerI have moved your .sh file to /etc and have renamed it as rc.local.  Then typed in $ ./rc.local  -- no errors06:16
fischerwife just hollered down the hall.  our toilet is apparently plugged, so I've got to go for the time being.  thanks for your help!06:17
_Codeman_Where's the 6 dvd set at?06:19
tonyyarussoGood question...where did I see that?06:20
crimsunDebian. Definitely not Ubuntu.06:20
crimsunalthough Edubuntu does come on 2 CDs for feisty06:21
tonyyarusso06:21
tonyyarusso  06:21
tonyyarussoI hate SCIM06:21
tonyyarussoAnd can't turn the darn thing off...06:22
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tonyyarusso_Codeman_: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1113 for Dapper, http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1209&zenid=a487d8336222ed1d73b013c63055846a for Edgy06:23
tonyyarussocrimsun also ^^06:23
fischercrimsun, you rock!  Sound works great.  This setting should stay, right?  When I reboot, sound should still work, eh?06:24
_Codeman_ouch... can't dl the images?06:25
ormiretThere are images here: http://nginyang.uvt.nl/06:25
ormiretI've no idea whats on them though...06:25
crimsunfischer: as long as that script is executed on boot, yes.06:27
fischergreat!  thanks so much!06:27
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felicianoare nvidia-glx working on xubuntu?06:40
felicianoI cant make  it work...06:40
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samarkandHello07:11
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j3r3miahhow do you change the preferred wireless networks in nm-applet with xfce4? i thought the settings were in gconf-editor, but they aren't on my machine.07:26
magic_ninjaif i want to hook up two computers to the internet, can i put 2 NICs into one of them and use linux as a router?07:28
j3r3miahi couldn't tell you how, but you definitely can07:29
magic_ninjawow07:29
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j3r3miahyou can find a howto if you google it07:29
magic_ninjajust wondered if the idea would owrk07:29
magic_ninjathats awsome07:29
magic_ninjai got 2 comps, 2 nic cards, yay07:29
j3r3miahsounds like fun07:29
magic_ninjarouting shouldn't use too much system resources07:29
j3r3miahdunno07:30
ormiretnot unless you have fancy rules for the routing07:31
magic_ninjana07:32
j3r3miahlike inverting all the images that pass through and translating the text to russian07:32
magic_ninjaprobably have dat07:32
j3r3miahi can't find where nm-applet keeps its settings07:33
j3r3miahits not in man, its not on their website07:33
magic_ninjathe only thing is that i want to run it, more along the lines of a daemon07:33
BFTDhey all07:33
BFTDanyone need help?07:33
j3r3miahknow anything about gnome-network-manager?07:34
magic_ninjano07:35
BFTDj3r3miah a bit07:35
magic_ninjathe thing is i have no money and no hub, but i got a couple pieces of network wiring07:35
magic_ninjawell, cat5 eth wire07:35
magic_ninjagot a usb cable modem in my main pc07:36
magic_ninjafigure if i had a nic i could just use my main pc as a router to hook it up to the other pc07:36
j3r3miahwhere does it store it settings? can't figure this out. it has no UI for changing preferred networks.... want to change it manually07:36
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helgaguys where is the japanese keyboard map file?08:02
samarkandAny of you guys install xubuntu on a PII 350 ?08:02
helgathere is a bug since dapper that makes the ] } key act like \|08:03
helgaI need to manually fix it in that file but I dont remember where it is08:03
helgaor what it's called08:03
helgaor something changed dramatically in feisty with keyboard mapping08:03
helgaalso enterprise volume management is hosing my bootup and I cant get the .20 kernel to work at all08:03
helgawhat the hell is it and why does it exist ?08:03
samarkandinstall is going faster than i thought interested to see how it performs08:04
hyper_chhuhu08:08
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magic_ninjaif i want to do a bare-bones install of xubuntu from the alternate cd does anyone have a good howto?11:39
posingaspopularmagic_ninja: xubuntu is pretty bare bones as is11:40
hyper_chbare bone?11:41
hyper_chinstall the server version11:41
posingaspopularyou mean... manually choose what to install?11:41
magic_ninjapretty much11:41
posingaspopularhmm i duno11:42
posingaspopularhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=240338711:43
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AndehHello12:45
AndehWhere can i set the default app for opening a file type?12:45
AndehCause no matter what i do xubuntu always opens stuff with totem12:45
Andehi want it to use VLC for example12:46
_aussiemanget rid of totem12:47
_aussiemanit didnt come with xubu when i installed it, gxine was stalling and i just inastalled vlc and no probs12:47
posingaspopularAndeh: what _aussieman  said12:50
_aussiemanposingaspopular, yeh12:50
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DeviadHello12:51
DeviadI have just downloaded xubuntu 7.04 beta and I'm getting an issue: X server does not boot up because of a trouble with vesa12:52
DeviadThat's pretty weird as my videocard works fine in gentoo and 6.10 :|12:52
Deviadand ubuntu 6.10*12:52
DeviadWhat's wrong with xubuntu?12:52
_aussiemannothing much12:52
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DeviadOK, I found the problem on the forum12:54
DeviadHow may I run the installation without X?12:54
_aussiemansomeone wake up and help Deviad - but Deviad look in the help.ubuntu pages12:55
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DeviadOK, I have to run the alternative install cd12:56
_aussiemanyep12:57
_aussiemanim not a hacker just a devoted user... i have some wifi probs  so im hanging around have fun12:57
DeviadAre there still any troubles with repositories and x86_64 packages as some time ago it was hard to find some package for that acrchitecture?12:57
_aussiemandunno12:58
Deviadmmm12:58
grazieDeviad: I'm not an x86_64 user, but I know there are quite a few problems and more limited package choice for all distros on this platform01:00
posingaspopularDeviad: what is.... vesa?01:00
Deviadmmm like a X generic driver which should work with any video card01:04
posingaspopularhmm i duno, thats news to me01:05
grazieDeviad: that's vesa...usually built into the kernel by default, not a separate package01:08
kj0ttdeigis it possible to remove e.g. firefox in xubuntu? when i try to remove it in synaptic, it require "xubuntu desktop" to be removed aswell :P01:09
posingaspopularkj0ttdeig: noo...... you're doing it wrong01:10
posingaspopularim pretty sure the command is 'purge -firefox'01:10
posingaspopularsomeone will correct my inevitable mistake though01:10
posingaspopularin terminal i mean01:11
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kj0ttdeigpurge: command not found01:12
b_52Centosanyone running a Oracle-xe01:12
b_52Centos?01:12
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posingaspopularhmmmm01:13
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posingaspopularsudo apt-get remove firefox?01:13
posingaspopularmaybe01:13
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posingaspopulari duno, ive done it in ubuntu, but that's gnome not xfce, not sure if the desktop enviornment will change the commands though01:14
Schalkendoes apt-get installing xubuntu-desktop on a normal ubuntu system have any effect on the usability of gnome?01:14
_aussiemandont think so01:14
kj0ttdeig"sudo apt-get remove firefox"01:18
kj0ttdeigThe following packages will be REMOVED:01:18
kj0ttdeig  firefox gnome-app-install gxine xubuntu-desktop01:18
kj0ttdeigand i don't want it to remove xubuntu-desktop01:19
posingaspopularoh right...01:19
Schalken!xubuntu-desktop > kj0ttdeig01:21
Schalkenno bot?01:22
Maximilian1stHi folks. I just wanted to let you, Xubuntu users and devs, know that an Xfce dev has brought out an alpha of a wireless chooser application. It can be found here http://spuriousinterrupt.org/projects/airconfig.01:22
kj0ttdeigyeah, i got something Schalken01:22
posingaspopularSchalken: there is a bot01:22
Schalken!help01:22
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots01:22
posingaspopularhmmm that's strange, i thought i knew how to uninstall firefox....01:23
Schalkenah01:23
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graziekj0ttdeig: xubuntu-desktop is meta package. Removing it will do no harm01:24
kj0ttdeigand what about the 2 other packages it wants to remove?01:24
SchalkenMaximilian1st: whats the advantage of air-config over network-manager?01:25
Maximilian1stNo gnome dependency for example?01:25
Maximilian1stThat should fit Xfce users01:26
SchalkenMaximilian1st: network manager doesnt depend on gnome. theres even a kde frontend.01:26
Schalkenor does the gnome frontend depend on gnome? :P01:26
graziekj0ttdeig: they are not meta packages and will be removed. You can always reinstall if you want to keep them01:26
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AndehHello01:28
AndehIs there a "what app to use when opening this filetype every time" menu or something?01:29
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AndehCause the only responses i got was to get rid of everything i didnt want to open my file with :D01:29
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Diegohi all01:30
Diegohow can i change the mac adress under xubuntu?01:30
grazieAndeh: right click on file and select "Open With" or "Open With Other Application..."01:31
Andehgrazie: Yes. How do i tell it to ALWAYS open with that?01:32
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grazieAndeh: your choice is remembered01:32
Maximilian1stSchalken, That is a good point, yet if you need to enter some wep key for your wireless AP you will need some sort of GUI and that is where the applet comes in handy.01:33
AndehOh01:33
SchalkenMaximilian1st: ah01:33
Schalkenso is air-config a frontend for network maanger or simply a network configurator?01:34
Maximilian1sta network configurator with front-end for Xfce01:34
AndehOk thanks01:35
AndehBye :-)01:35
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Diego#ubuntu-de01:36
SchalkenMaximilian1st: does that mean it has to be run as root? (to modify network config)01:36
Diegohow can i change the mac adress ???01:37
posingaspopularDiego: mac... adress?01:37
SchalkenDiego: a mac address is built into your network card. it cannot be changed.01:37
Diegok01:38
Maximilian1stSchalken, You can run it as a normal user01:39
Diegohow can i see which is my mac adress01:39
Diego?01:39
tors_sudo ifconfig <interface> hw ether <new-mac-address>01:40
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SchalkenMaximilian1st: then how does it modify the config? isnt that what network manager is for, to provide an interface for frontends to change network config, or does air-config provide a similar soervice as well as a userspace frontend?01:46
Maximilian1stIt uses wpa_supplicant, just like Network Manager does.01:47
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Maximilian1stI read your question once again and yes, it does provide a service with a frontend.01:49
SchalkenMaximilian1st: ah okay01:49
Schalkeninteresting01:50
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Maximilian1stGive it a try, yet the author states it is Work in progress.01:50
SchalkenMaximilian1st: arr id rather not in fear of bugginess01:51
Schalkenplus i have to install xubuntu-desktop first :P01:51
Schalkeni'd*01:51
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frandavid100hello!02:14
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frandavid100I'm kinda new to xubuntu, can you tell me how to access another computer's samba shares?02:14
mkquistanyone up?02:14
mkquistwell, im just getting back to that very thing, so im not in a place to help there yet... sry02:15
mkquistjust now setting up a server for my lan02:15
mkquistmight take a shot in #ubuntu, more active generally02:16
frandavid100thanks mkquist!02:16
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mindblock.. is it me..or is there a slight perfomance decrease in xfce 4.4?03:43
lypsismindblock: think so , too03:43
mindblocklypsis: even my fps is going considerably slower after the upgrade03:44
mindblocklypsis: is there a way to revert?03:44
lypsisi dont really know sorry03:46
lypsisi only have 256mb ram, so I havent activated such thing as beryl / compiz03:47
lypsisperhaps its the graphics driver, have to check this (on 6.10 the nvidia restricted ones were WAYS better and faster in my opinion)03:47
mindblockive got ati too, and thats never a good thing lol03:49
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lypsissince 7.10 i have to use the legacy ones...very strange hm03:49
mindblocku mean 7.04?03:50
lypsissorry yeah ur right03:51
lypsis7.04, sure03:51
lypsisor call it 'feisty' ;)03:51
mindblockfeisty worked good on my machine i tested it out03:51
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lypsisexcept the little performance decrease03:52
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hyper_chhiho03:55
lypsishy hyper_ch03:55
hyper_chfinally I can continue:  160041885696 bytes (160 GB) copied, 90679.8 seconds, 1.8 MB/s04:01
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graziehyper_ch: is that backing to your server?04:08
graziebacking up*04:08
hyper_chnope, that's preparing for harddisk encryption :)04:08
graziewow!04:09
hyper_chhyper@xubi:/dev$ sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda04:09
hyper_chdd: writing to `/dev/hda': No space left on device04:09
hyper_ch312581809+0 records in04:09
hyper_ch312581808+0 records out04:09
hyper_ch160041885696 bytes (160 GB) copied, 90679.8 seconds, 1.8 MB/s04:09
hyper_chhttp://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/howto-disk-encryption-with-dm-crypt-luks-and-debian04:09
graziehyper_ch: I'm doing an upgrade from breezy to dapper (long story) and that's taking ages too, but not as long as that04:13
hyper_chwhy to dapper?04:14
grazieit's old machine that I just got back...it had breezy ubuntu on it...got to upgrade in stages anyway...never used dapper before04:16
hyper_chspecs?04:19
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grazieit's a B&W G3 350mhz 256mb ram04:20
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Howdy125I upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04 and when I boot it stops at "usb 1-2 configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice" .. anyone know if this is fixable ?04:39
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PumpernickelFeisty support in #ubuntu+1.04:44
hyper_chPumpernickel: don't be so hard :(04:44
Howdy125Thanks Pumpernickel04:44
PumpernickelWhat?  That's where people hang out who have more experience with Feisty's problems.04:44
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kj0ttdeiganyone that can recommend some bluetooth software for xubuntu, so i can send and recieve pictures between my cell phone and the computer with a usb bluetooth dongle?05:02
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schlumpf-hi im new to xubunto means no clue whatsever... I try to install my nvidia card i alredy did the following: download the driver from nvidia.com, downloaded linux-sources for my system and the libc6-dev05:06
schlumpf-but the error saying somethng about no kernel or something like it dident change05:07
hyper_chschlumpf-: what nvidia card have you got?05:07
schlumpf-fx520005:07
schlumpf-old05:07
hyper_chsounds newer than mine05:07
hyper_chis it supported by the current nvidia drivers or do you need the legacy ones?05:08
schlumpf-:)05:08
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brokenbinhow come my spell check in OOo doesn't work?05:08
hyper_chbrokenbin: maybe it's not enabled05:08
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schlumpf-i think it should be supported but i wouldent know how to check :)05:08
brokenbinhyper_ch: i think it is, but every time i try to check, it shows no mistake05:08
hyper_ch!nvidia | schlumpf05:08
ubotuschlumpf: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:08
hyper_chbrokenbin: have you the right dicionary installed?05:09
brokenbinhyper_ch: even when i deliberately leave mistakes05:09
brokenbinhyper_ch: how can you tell?05:09
hyper_chI dunno05:09
hyper_chcheck the installed dictonnaries05:09
brokenbinit works for you?05:10
hyper_chyes05:10
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augis there a canonical way for configuring wpa_supplicant under xubuntu? I mean except for writing stuff into /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf05:12
hyper_ch!wpa05:13
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:13
augmy problem is: i have configured everything and when running it manually, it works nicely05:13
augyeah i mean .. that's for the gnome stuff, right?05:13
hyper_chdunno05:13
hyper_chI don't use encryption on my wifi05:13
augthe docs there say, use the configuring-wizard in gnome, it integrates wpa nicely ...05:13
hyper_chthen use that one05:14
hyper_chor wifi-radar or something like that05:14
augwell .. that's for ubuntu (gnome), not xubuntu (xfce)05:14
hyper_chaug: and where's the difference?05:14
augthe real point is I am looking for the point where the automation happens ..05:14
augas in it comes up automatically on boot ..05:14
augevery distro does this in a different way ...05:15
hyper_ch*buntu is one distro :)05:15
hyper_chjust with different flavours05:15
hyper_chthe underlaying behaviour is all the same05:15
aughmmmkay05:15
hyper_chgnome and xfce use gtk2... kde does use qt05:16
augso .. "do this automatically on boot" is to be found where? *scratches head*05:16
hyper_chso running gnome appz in xfce does not load additional libraries as kde appz do05:16
hyper_chI don't use encryption on my wifi05:16
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dooglusI'm using xubuntu 6.06 and there's one window in the task list at the bottom of the screen that just won't stop flashing.05:25
dooglusis this a known bug?  and is there any way to stop it?05:25
dooglusit's so annoying05:25
hyper_chwhat window?05:26
dooglusit's a gaim conversation window05:26
hyper_chthen close it05:26
dooglusit keeps reappearing whenever that person sends me a message05:27
dooglusI like that it flashes to tell me when there's a new message05:27
doogluswhat I don't like is how it won't stop05:27
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dooglusI've tried maximizing it, focusing it, moving it, etc05:28
schlumpf-hi what is the "kernel source tree" and how can i install it05:28
hyper_ch!nvidia05:28
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:28
hyper_chwell, then change the settings in gaim that it shall not flash upon receiving a message05:29
dooglusthat didn't seem to have any effect05:31
dooglusmaybe those settings only apply to newly created windows - I'll wait and see...05:31
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_hairoeverytime I install xubuntu and then gnome, I loose the panel?  Anyone know how to fix this?05:35
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brokenbinhow do i install packages ignoring dependencies?05:48
augok, just found out .. this network-manager thing only works if the interface _isn't_ configured in /etc/network/interfaces .. live and learn ...05:48
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brokenbin!nodep05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nodep - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
brokenbin!dependencies05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dependencies - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
brokenbin!dependency05:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dependency - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
dooglusbrokenbin: do you have the .deb file?05:53
dooglusif so, "sudo dpkg -i --force-things all file.deb" might do what you want05:54
brokenbindooglus: yes05:55
brokenbindooglus: any idea why i can't install criawips?06:03
dooglusbrokenbin: what happens when you try that dpkg command?06:03
brokenbinoh, it works06:04
brokenbindooglus, but then the packages are broken06:04
dooglusthat's not surprising06:04
dooglusyou asked how to install it without installing the packages it needs to work06:05
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brokenbindooglus, the thing is, i have a newer version of libatk installed06:05
brokenbinbut the package requires the older version06:05
dooglusbrokenbin: apt-get should fix that automatically06:05
dooglusit will uninstall the new version and install the correct version of libatk - won't it?06:06
brokenbinhttp://pastebin.ca/42843206:06
brokenbinthat's the output06:06
doogluswhat's the input?06:07
brokenbinsudo apt-get install criawips06:07
dooglussudo apt-get install libcriawips006:08
doogluswhat does that do?06:08
brokenbinlibcriawips0: Depends: libgoffice-1-2 (>= 0.2.1) but it is not installable or06:09
brokenbin                         libgoffice-gtk-1-2 (>= 0.2.1) but it is not installable06:09
brokenbindooglus: is there anyway to force apt?06:11
dooglus--force-yes06:11
dooglusForce yes;  This is a dangerous option  that will cause06:11
dooglusapt  to  continue  without  prompting if  it  is  doing06:11
dooglussomething  potentially harmful.06:11
dooglussudo apt-get install libgoffice-1-206:12
dooglus?06:12
brokenbindooglus: i don't mind, scheduling a reinstall this afternoon anyways06:12
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brokenbinPackage libgoffice-1-2 has no installation candidate06:13
dooglusodd06:13
doogluswhat version of xubuntu?06:13
brokenbinedgy06:14
doogluslibgoffice-1-2 is a dapper package06:14
dooglushave you mixed up your apt sources?06:14
brokenbinexactly06:14
brokenbinthat's why, it's too new06:14
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brokenbini don't think so06:15
doogluscan you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list ?06:15
brokenbinhttp://pastebin.ca/42847206:17
dooglusthat looks ok06:18
dooglusapt-cache policy libcriawips006:18
brokenbinis there another presentation program that i can use?06:18
brokenbinexcept for OOo06:18
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dooglusI don't know06:19
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hyper_chTheSheep: are you online?06:39
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schlumpf-hi i installed my driver for nvidia but now its all messed up... the keyboard changed its layout from de to us also the m rendering is at 1000x70007:17
schlumpf-which is lowser than normal07:17
schlumpf-*lower07:18
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ormiretschlumpf-: sounds like your xorg.conf got overwritten, edit it to put things back.07:22
schlumpf-edit to what07:23
schlumpf-i m just randomly hitting buttons07:23
ormiretThe keyboard layout is in Sectio InputDevice with an identifier containign the word keyboard, there will be a line 'Option "XkbLayout" "us"', change the us to whatever layout you want to use.07:25
schlumpf-k and what about the limited pixel amoutn due to 1000x700 solution07:26
schlumpf-srz missing a word there07:26
schlumpf-y07:26
ormiretThe resolution is in Section "Screen", there will be a collection of SubSection "Display", change the Modes there to the resolution you want07:27
schlumpf-k07:28
schlumpf-but one prob07:28
schlumpf-i can delete the us07:28
schlumpf-but he wont let me write07:28
schlumpf-how do i change it form read only to read and write07:29
ormiretYou need more than user privs to edit xorg.conf. Start your editor with sudo or gksudo07:30
schlumpf-ah kk thx07:30
schlumpf-hm im in as root but nothing has changed07:31
ormiretyou still can't make changes? What editor are you using?07:32
schlumpf-dont know just terminal vi xorg.conf07:33
ormiretyeah, I suspected that. vi is modal so you can't insert text without going into insert mode (I think you press i to get this)07:34
ormiretI'd recomend nano though for small changes unless you want to learn vi07:35
schlumpf-i dont care07:36
schlumpf-so just nano xorg.conf07:36
schlumpf-?07:36
ormiretyes, don't forget the sudo07:36
schlumpf-kk07:36
ormiretYou cna edit normally in nano and there are instructiona at the bottom of the screen for savign and exiting etc07:37
schlumpf-thanks very much07:37
schlumpf-for the changes to apply i need to reboot right_07:37
schlumpf-?07:37
riciyou just need to restart the xserver07:38
ricictrl-alt-bksp07:38
schlumpf-k07:38
ormiretyou just need to restart X, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart' will do that, it will log you out though so save anything important first07:38
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schlumpf-doesent just gdm do the job too?07:43
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spottedHello07:46
spottedI'm having this problem with Xubuntu, id est I get a heap load of compile errors...07:46
spottedwith ati drivers07:46
spotted m-a build fglrx07:47
spottedThings like this: /usr/src/modules/fglrx/firegl_public.c:208: error: expected declaration    07:47
spotted  specifiers or ... before mlock07:47
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ormiretCan you not use the xorg-driver-fglrx package instead of compiling yourself?07:48
ormiretIf not patebin the full set of errors.07:48
spottedormiret, I'd like to have composite support07:48
spottedormiret, where are module-assistant's logs placed?07:49
ormiretIs there not composite support in the restricted driver?07:50
ormiretno idea where the logs are, I'd expect them to be in the build dir...07:50
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kj0ttdeiganyone got flash working in opera on xubuntu?08:02
kj0ttdeigthe package they link to on opera.com says "opera not supported" :S08:02
PumpernickelYeah, just install flashplugin-nonfree.  The plugin will be placed or linked to in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, which should be in Opera's pluginpath.ini.08:09
Pumpernickel!info flashplugin-nonfree08:09
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)08:09
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kj0ttdeigit works :)08:25
kj0ttdeigthanks again, Pumpernickel08:25
Pumpernickelnp08:26
Dan4hello I need some help with the cpp 4.1 package, it broke while I was installing gpp 4.1.base and now it says to run sudo apt-get install -f, but when I do that it trys to remove >400Mb of packages, including system stuff08:26
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makuseruhow do you pronounce xubunutu?08:27
PumpernickelWhat happens if you try to remove/reinstall the 'borken' package?08:27
Dan4it trys to remove other stuff08:27
Pumpernickelksubuntu08:27
Pumpernickelerr, broken, even08:27
makuseru"ksubuntu"?08:27
PumpernickelYeah.08:28
makuserui figured it would be "zubuntu" but i wasnt sure08:28
Dan4if I try reinstalling or removing it asks to remove almost every package on the systen08:28
PumpernickelDan4: Is it just missing a dependency?  Installing that would probably be easiest.08:28
Dan4those 2 files have all dependencies08:29
PumpernickelIt's the 'x' from 'xfce', so I use the 'ks' sound for it.  No idea if it's official in any way.08:29
PumpernickelDan4: If they have all their deps, then which package is broken?08:30
Dan4but midway thrugh gpp 4.1.base it gave an error. the packages that are broken are cpp 4.1, gcc 4.1, libgcc1, and libstdc++608:31
PumpernickelWhat was the error?08:33
Dan4broken dependencies08:33
PumpernickelWhat was the error message?08:34
Dan4the whole thing?08:34
PumpernickelYeah.08:36
PumpernickelIf it's very long, you should pastebin it.08:36
Pumpernickel!paste08:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)08:36
Dan4Broken dependencies your system has broken dependencies. this program cannot continue until this is fixed. to fix run 'sudo synaptic' or 'sudo apt-get install -f' in a terminal window08:36
Dan4and doing this asks me to uninstall most of the packages on my system08:37
Dan4including video drivers, firefox, open office, etc.08:40
PumpernickelWere you installing cpp et al through apt, or more manually using dpkg on individual packages?08:41
Dan4I didn't touch the CPP package at all08:42
Dan4it broke while installing another package08:44
Dan4and if it is important, recently I have been getting errors on startup relating to the file system08:50
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PumpernickelThat's quite possible - weird things happen when you get disk or fs failures.08:51
Dan4the error was: fsck died with exit status 808:53
Dan4file system check failed08:53
Dan4then it made a log and starts a matnence shell08:53
Dan4is there any program I can use to check the drive integrety? I know my windows 95 bootdisk won't work09:00
makuserui think my xubuntu insall is stuck, its at "select and install software" 65% "Configuring anthy" what can i do?09:03
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makuserunevermind, it just took along time09:06
Dan4what is the linux equivilent of scandisk?09:17
kumamotoDan4: u say fsck failed ? is the normal bootup drive check or is this after a the password required part?09:22
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Dan4before the login it failed09:25
Dan4during bootup09:25
kumamotoDan4: can u get your system into single usermode09:26
Dan4I can still get on it by pressing control + d09:26
makuserucan you get rid of synaptic and use adept in xubuntu?09:26
Dan4how?09:27
Dan4I am not very experienced09:27
kumamotoDan4: what mode are u in right now gui or console login prompt?09:28
Dan4GUI09:28
Dan4I have auto-login on09:28
makuserucan you get rid of synaptic and use adept in xubuntu?09:29
Dan4how would I do that09:29
makuseruim not telling you what to do09:29
Dan4I don't know because I didn't even know it can be removed09:30
makuseruno09:30
makuserui mean im not talkign to you09:30
makuseruim asking for help09:30
Dan4oh09:30
kumamotoOk do a ctrl+atl+f209:30
Dan4ok09:31
kumamotomakuseru: I bet u can manually using aptitude09:31
kumamotowhat do u get09:31
makuserukumamoto: so what? sudo aptitude install apt-get?09:31
Dan4I have a command screen asking for  my login09:32
kumamotoDan4: login09:32
kumamotomakuseru:09:33
Dan4root or user account?09:33
kumamotomakuseru: try sudo aptitude install adept then remove synaptic09:33
kumamotoDan4: the usual user account and password09:34
Dan4ok, logged in to my non- root account now09:34
makuserukumamoto: i got it all done, but its reading my sources from a CD, how do i give it a normal sources.list?09:34
kumamotomakuseru: comment out the CD line in /etc/apt/sources.list09:35
kumamotoDan4: sudo init 109:35
kumamotoDan4: let me know how that goes09:35
makuserulast time i installed thats all was in there, the CD lines, ill check this time tho09:35
kumamotomakuseru: don't remove it just comment it out09:36
kumamotoor comment it if I have confused u enough09:36
makuseruno, i mean last time there was nothing in there but the CD lines09:37
makuseruthe rest was blank09:37
Dan4kumamoto: it said the following: init: rc1 process (4284) killed by signal 15. give root password for matenence(or type control-d to continue): then I entered my password09:39
kumamotomakuseru: synaptic will provide some of the sources09:39
kumamotoDan4: are u now in09:39
Dan4I am root@ubuntu:~#09:40
kumamotomakuseru: i don't have synaptic right now to direct u so forgive me for that09:40
kumamotoDan4: ok09:40
kumamotoDan4: df -h09:40
kumamotohow many partitions are mounted09:41
makuseruthere all telling me "remporary failure"09:41
Dan4I got 6 results09:41
kumamotomakuseru: u need it to be networked09:42
kumamotomakuseru: or some dns should working for u r system09:42
kumamotoDan4: umount -a09:42
kumamotothen run the df command again09:42
Dan42 were buisy09:43
Dan43 results this time09:43
kumamotowhich ones are mounted09:44
makuserukumamoto: im on the internet09:44
Dan4wait a second, Mirc thought it was a command09:45
kumamotomakuseru: dns working good?09:45
makuseruwhat is dns09:45
kumamotomakuseru: domain name resolution09:45
Dan4"/dev/hda1, procbususb, udev"09:46
kumamotomakuseru: should be listed in /etc/resolv.conf09:46
kumamotoDan4: ok09:46
makuseruwell, im not on the net09:47
makuseruhow do i set it up? never had to do this before09:47
kumamotoDan4:when u df what partition is mount as /dev/hda109:47
kumamotomakuseru: what do u have in that file09:47
makuserulemme check, hang on09:47
Dan4well it is the largest one, I assume first but not sure09:48
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kumamotoDan4: is / or /boot09:48
Dan4it is /09:48
makuserukumamoto: 163.106.40.109:48
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makuserunameserver 163.106.40.1***09:49
kumamotomakuseru: also check out http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic/09:49
gerbil_juicequick question, what music player for linux comes the closest to replicating itunes? i tried using amarok but was unable to figure it out, and rhythmbox wouldn't work.09:49
kumamotomakuseru: does it help in resolving domains from the internet say google.com09:49
kumamotomakuseru: dig google.com09:50
kumamotoDan4: ok run this command mount -f -o remount,ro /dev/hda109:50
kumamotoDan4: let me know if u get errors from it09:50
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Jester45gerbil_juice, what are you tring to get just music playback? or ipod useablity09:50
gerbil_juicemusic playback09:50
gerbil_juicemostly, although if it syncs to my ipod that's a bonus09:51
makuserukumamoto: i cant do that09:51
makuseruits not on the internet09:51
kumamotomakuseru: bingo09:51
Jester45gerbil_juice, well ipods i found out are easier to use with gtkpod09:51
kumamotomakuseru: source list need the internet09:51
Dan4kumamoto: no errors09:51
kumamotoDan4: nice09:52
kumamotoDan4: what is the size of your drive09:52
Jester45gerbil_juice, what problems did you have with amork i use that mostly09:52
Dan4umm, 4GB09:52
kumamotoDan4: ah09:52
makuserui cant get it on the internet09:52
gerbil_juicejester: well it loaded all my music from my folder, and i have the restricted formats all installed, but i couldn't get any music to play in amarok09:53
makuserui said that a second ago09:53
kumamotoDan4: for your drive intergrity, checks and file system structure corrections run this09:53
kumamotoDan4: fsck -y -f;reboot09:53
Jester45gerbil_juice, do you have sounds working on your computer?09:53
kumamotothen chill out for a min or so09:53
Dan4kumamoto:ok wait a minute09:53
Jester45gerbil_juice, is armok looking like its playing09:53
makuserukumamoto: how can i get it on the net?09:54
gerbil_juicejester: sound works, everything works, amarok just didn't09:54
gerbil_juicejester: double clicking songs or anything didn't work. it would hangup when trying to make playlists, also.09:54
kumamotomakuseru: get it connected to the internet09:54
kumamotomakuseru: or do u mean how to get it connected to the internet?09:55
makuseruyes09:55
makuseruhow do i set it up09:55
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makuseruit shows im connected to my network09:55
makuserubut FF wont connect to anything09:55
Dan4kumamoto:got an error09:55
snarferHello, I'm trying to install Xubuntu on my external hard drive, and I've already set up the swap and main partitionss09:55
kumamotoDan4: what error?09:56
Dan4it just rebooted, too late09:56
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snarferNow, when I try to select a /, I keep getting "no root partition selected"09:56
kumamotoDan4: when it boots up at the grub prompt hit escape09:56
kumamotothen u should in the grub kernel list09:57
kumamotolet me know when u get there09:57
Dan4ok wait a minute09:57
kumamotomakuseru: are u behind a NAT/firewall or some kind routing device?09:57
makuseruno09:57
Dan4kumamoto:ok i'm in09:58
kumamotoso how are connected to your network09:58
makuserujust through my router09:58
kumamotoDan4: in the grub kernel router09:58
kumamotoDan4: in the grub kernel lists09:58
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Dan4kumamoto:yes, there are 5 options09:58
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kumamotook choose the first one09:59
snarferAnyone?09:59
Jester456gerbil_juice, also you can try audacious or songbird09:59
kumamotoif the installer has detected the drive then choose it when asked to format the drive10:00
Dan4kumamoto:i'm in the usual screen with the file system error, should I enter the matnence shell or continue?10:00
kumamotoDan4: yes10:01
Dan4yes continue or yes enter the shell10:01
kumamotoenter shell10:01
Dan4ok10:01
Dan4kumamoto:i'm in10:02
kumamotoDan4: run the same command without the reboot also make sure / is read only10:03
kumamotobefore running fsck\10:03
kumamotoyeah10:03
Dan4kumamoto:how do I make / read only?10:03
kumamotodon't run fsck on a read write / partition10:04
Dan4the / partition is the boot partition, and data partition10:04
Dan4it takes 3.9Gb of my 4.2Gb10:05
kumamotoyes10:05
Dan4wouldn't it be writable and not read only?10:05
kumamototry making it read only for now10:06
Dan4how?10:06
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kumamotomount -f -o remount,ro /dev/hda /10:06
kumamotohda110:06
Dan4oh that is what that does10:06
kumamotoyup10:07
Dan4ok did that then did the fsck command10:09
kumamotowhat options did u use with fsck?10:09
Dan4got the file system error again, it is now telling me this may cause damage on a mounted file system and if I want to continue10:10
Dan4same options as before10:10
kumamotowhat is the ouput of this command 'mount'10:10
Dan4just mount?10:11
kumamotoyup10:11
Dan49 results10:11
kumamotoagain umount all 'umount -a'10:12
kumamotothen run the remount thing and then run fsck -y -f10:12
Dan4all unmounted but 3 because they were buisy10:13
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snarferhttp://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture68ti8.jpg http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture69io7.jpg10:13
snarferBlarg10:13
kumamotook now remount into readonly again10:14
Dan4gives me a message stating that continuing on a mounted filesystem may cause severe damage10:15
Dan4oh, I'll remount then10:15
Dan4ok mounted as RO10:17
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kj0ttdeigis there a command/syntax that refers to the filename of a selected file, for use in custom "open with" commands?10:20
kumamotoDan4: anything new10:20
Dan4want me to run the fsck one now?10:20
kumamotoya what were u waiting10:21
kumamotofor lol10:21
Dan4says that doing this on the mounted filesystem may cause damage, should I continue?10:21
kumamotohell continue it could be just a default message that shows up even with the system is in readonly now10:22
Dan4fixing lots of stuff10:23
kumamotoand also because u r running it with a -y -f10:23
kumamotobrb need a puff10:23
Dan4k10:23
Dan4woah, fixed thousands of things10:24
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Dan4rebooted, hmm this is odd10:31
kumamotoDan4: what is odd10:31
Dan4doesn't load GUI and says it is ubuntu 6.10 (none) tty110:32
kumamotologin and run startx10:33
Dan4I can't login10:33
Dan4doesn't accept username10:33
kumamotoDan4: error?10:34
Dan4login incorrect10:34
kumamotodamn go back to single usermode and run the passwd command10:35
kumamotothis isn't supposed to happen10:35
Dan4how can I do that10:35
kumamotosimple way is ctrl+Alt+Del and do the esc when prompted to into the grub list10:36
Dan4CTRL ALT DELETE causes an endless loop saying cannot access password database10:38
kumamotook just reboot it10:39
kumamotomanuallyh10:39
kumamotomanually10:39
Dan4ok I'm in the grub menu10:40
kumamotoselect the first grub don't hit enter just yet10:40
Dan4ok done10:41
kumamotohit 'e'10:41
Dan4done10:41
kumamotoline after root(hd0,0)10:41
kumamotoselect10:42
Dan4the kernal one10:42
kumamotoyah10:42
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Dan4ok selected, enter?10:42
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kumamotono10:42
kumamotonot yet10:42
Dan4ok10:43
kumamotouse your right arrow key (->) go to the end of the line 'space' then type single10:44
Dan4want me to push E first?10:44
kumamotoyah10:46
kumamotowait10:46
kumamotoonce u r one the kernel line use to right arrow and go to the end of the kernel line10:46
snarferCrap10:46
snarferUbiquity crashed10:46
snarferD:10:47
Dan4so push E thn go to the end of the line?10:47
Dan4and add single10:47
kumamotono e when u c the root and kernel lines10:48
Dan4I can't edit it10:48
kumamotowhat10:48
Dan4nothing happens when I push the right arrow10:48
kumamotoon the kernel line?10:48
Dan4yes10:48
kumamotowhat does the kernel line read10:49
kumamototype the whole thing10:49
Dan4kernal /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off qu->10:51
kumamotokernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro acpi=off single10:53
kumamotothat is how it should look like10:53
kumamotosingle should be at the very end10:53
Dan4it continues after qu, but it is cut off10:53
Dan4and right arrow doewsn't work10:54
kumamotoand right arrow doesn't beyond qu10:55
Dan4right arrow does nothing10:55
kumamotook try deleting the line from qu back to acpi10:56
Dan4how10:56
kumamotoleave ro alone10:56
kumamotouse backspace10:56
kumamotoit is like editing using notepad10:56
Dan4backspace does nothing10:56
Dan4is there something I need to press to edit it?10:57
Dan4enter maybe?10:57
kumamotowait am min10:57
kumamotowhen u select the line hit enter10:57
kumamotoand what is does10:57
Dan4enter does nothing10:58
kumamotohit escape10:58
kumamotowhere are u now10:58
Dan4the main menu with 5 options10:59
kumamotook try again select the first kernel hit e10:59
kumamoto'e'10:59
Dan4ok done11:00
kumamotonow what u c11:00
Dan45 optins, first is root (hd0,0)11:00
Dan4second I said11:00
hyper_chso, dm-crypt runs finally :)11:01
kumamotosecond is ?11:01
Dan4oh wait 6 options11:01
Dan4second is kernal11:02
Dan4third is initrd11:02
Dan4fourth is quiet11:02
kumamotoselect kernel11:02
Dan4fifth is savedefault11:02
kumamotook11:02
Dan4done11:02
kumamotohit 'e' again11:03
Dan4ok says  < acpi=off quiet11:03
Dan4add single?11:03
kumamotonow remove quiet acpi by using 'backspace'11:05
kumamotoand then add single after 'ro'11:05
Dan4ACPI must be there, otherwise some problems with power management11:06
kumamotodon't worry about it for now the change isn't permanent11:06
Dan4well it crashes if it trys to do any power related stuff11:07
Dan4and if I remember correctlycan't boot right without it11:09
kumamotook if u insist leave acpi n11:09
Dan4ok press ESC now?11:09
kumamotono11:10
kumamotohit enter11:10
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Dan4ok done11:10
MorphiusIs there a livecd available?11:10
snarferYes11:10
MorphiusWhere can I find it?  Is it just the install CD as well?11:11
snarfer!download11:11
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive11:11
kumamotoMorphius: what live cd?11:11
snarferSigh11:11
snarferxubuntu.org/get11:11
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MorphiusThanks.11:13
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kumamotoDan4: where u at now?11:14
Dan4kernal is selected11:15
kumamotohit 'b'11:16
snarferhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu?highlight=%28xubuntu%2911:17
snarferI'm trying to run Xubuntu with a virtualization program (VMWare)11:17
Dan4endlessly looping cannot open password database11:17
spottedDoes anyone know if there's a beta of ati drivers 8.36?11:17
snarferAnd I can't seem to install from the commandline11:17
spottedI wanna enable the transparency in xfce11:17
spotted:((11:17
hyper_chsnarfer: you want to install vmware in xubuntu?11:19
snarferNooo...11:19
kumamotoDan4: wassup?11:19
Dan4other way around11:19
snarferI want to install Xbuntu via VMWare11:19
Dan4kumamoto, still looping11:19
snarferAnd I'm not presented with the option for text-only11:20
hyper_chsnarfer: ???11:20
hyper_chwhat option?11:20
snarferINstall in text-only mode11:20
snarferhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu?highlight=%28xubuntu%2911:20
kumamotoDan4: what is saying atm11:21
hyper_chsnarfer: what version did you download?11:21
snarfer6.10 desktop11:21
snarferi68611:21
Dan4kumamoto:it is a few sentence message that keeps repeating, want me to say it11:21
spottedHow do I tell xfce to run a file on startup?11:22
spottedI need to start .Xmodmap each time X starts11:22
kumamotoDan4: it would be helpful might have seen the error before11:22
snarferThat has to do with cron11:22
snarferI think11:22
Dan4ok wait a minute11:22
hyper_chdesktop has not text-install if I remember correctly11:23
Dan4the message changed11:23
snarferAh11:23
hyper_chspotted: applicatiosn --> settings --> autostarted applicatiosn11:23
hyper_chsnarfer: the desktop cd is the live cd :)11:24
spottedhyper_ch, is adding xmodmap in .xinitrc a good idea?11:24
snarferI figured11:24
hyper_chspotted: no clue11:24
hyper_chspotted: don't even know what it is11:24
spottedgonna try11:24
spottedthx11:24
spottedexit11:24
snarferThe installer keeps crashing on me11:24
snarferWhat the hell?11:24
hyper_chsnarfer: try the alternate one11:24
snarferThere's an alternate?11:25
hyper_chit's better for installation11:25
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snarferWhere?11:25
Dan4the system has reached a state where there are no jobs running. a shell will be spawned so that you may start such jobs that are neccisary. type 'exit' when finished. sulogin: cannot open password database!11:25
hyper_chsnarfer: from the xubuntu site11:26
hyper_chsnarfer: http://www.xubuntu.org/get11:27
snarferI have it11:27
snarferI've been trying to install it11:28
snarferHow do I try to install something if I don't have the CD11:28
hyper_ch!installation11:28
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:28
hyper_chthere are various ways11:28
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n-iCehi i installed xubuntu but works slower than windows xp ?11:30
n-iCewhat can i do to make it lighter? the problem is when i open and close windows launch programs etc...11:30
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kumamotoDan4: you system was really screwed up11:32
Dan4I see that11:32
kumamotoDan4: we will try one more thing11:32
Dan4it is a quite old machine11:32
kumamotoDan4: go back and do the grub thing again11:32
Dan4k11:32
kumamotoand let me know when u get to edit the kernel line11:33
Dan4ok I am in11:33
snarferAhhhhh11:34
snarferI don't think my external is on my MBR11:34
kumamotoDan4: u on the line11:35
n-iCewhat can i do to make it lighter? the problem is when i open and close windows launch programs etc...11:35
n-iCei installed xubuntu but works slower than windows xp ?11:35
Dan4I'm here11:36
Dan4and I am ready to edit it11:36
kumamoton-iCe: what is you load when running programs11:36
n-iCenothing11:36
kumamotohit 'e'11:36
n-iCei just installed it11:36
kumamotoas usuall11:36
Dan4on my computer xubuntu runs faster because it is so old11:36
kumamotoready11:37
Dan4Ok I pressed e11:37
kumamotou r now in edit mode right11:37
Dan4yes11:37
kumamotook instead of single enter init=/bin/bash11:37
kumamotoonce u r done hit enter then 'b'11:38
Dan4ok something diferent happened11:39
kumamotowhat?11:41
Dan4it says /usr/bin/groups: 69: id: not found. next line says I have no name!@(none):/#11:41
Dan4can I run commands here?11:42
kumamotonow that isn't good /usr/bin/groups is a system essential file11:42
kumamotoDan4: we have to mount proc before we can do anything11:43
Dan4well i can typestuff11:43
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kumamotomount -t proc /dev/proc11:44
Dan4can we make a new groups file11:44
kumamotoDan4: it is an executable that had some script in it i don't think an empty file will do it11:44
Dan4some letters won't work11:45
Dan4I can't type M11:45
Dan4or U11:45
Dan4and a few others11:45
kumamoto'm'?11:45
Dan4yeah11:45
kumamotodamn how screwed up is u r system11:45
Dan4I have no idea11:45
snarferNo Xubuntu Bittorrent links D:11:46
Dan4it worked fine before11:46
kumamotocan't type shit is that what u r saying11:46
Dan4can type 4/5 of letters11:46
kumamotoDan4: when it comes to that point you can either use a live cd to run a ful fsck on the drive or perform a complete OS reload11:47
Dan4I can reload I suppose, but only to FAT3211:47
Dan4I don;t have a linux bootdisk11:48
Dan4just a win95 one11:48
Dan4do you reccommend reinstalling linux or reinstalling windows on it? I don't want this again11:49
kumamotowhat did u use to install xubuntu11:50
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Dan4a CD11:50
Dan4I think11:50
kumamotothat CD is a live cd too11:50
Dan4I can't power off!11:51
Dan4it gives a message onscreen when I push the button11:51
kumamotohold the power button down for a few secs11:51
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Dan4it says a program is trying to access hardware directly11:52
snarferI wished the Xubuntu mirrors were faster11:52
Dan4no matter how long held11:52
snarfer*sigh*11:52
n-iCehow can i make my xubuntu faster11:52
Dan4hmm how did I install it the first time, I forgot, I can't boot from CD11:54
Dan4oh nvm I found the cd boot option11:55
kumamotoDan4: don't know man u need to work that out at the same time try running some drive diagnostic on your drive11:55
Dan4I can scandisk it when I format it11:55
kumamotoI won't trust windows apps for such a job use go the drive manufactures site and download their diagnotic tools11:56
Dan4the drive is a bit old for that11:57
kumamotohey doesn't matter11:57
kumamotoIt would come handy for other drives11:57
Dan4it is a fujitsu limited11:58
kumamotoDan4: whatever works for u11:58
kumamotowhatever makes it comfortable for u11:58
Dan4I'll take a look but I don't know if they offer it11:59
Dan4oh I found it, I think I will run both to make sure12:01
kumamotoDan4: nice12:02
Dan4hmm their exe is corrupt12:05
n-iCebrb12:06
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Dan4ok low level formatting, I think I can take it from here thanks for the help12:13
Dan4and I am reinstalling xubuntu btw12:13
kumamotoDan4: good luck12:18
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