[04:46] <knix_> I have a major issue with my Thinkpad.  I was trying to suspend it and now my sound will not work, thoughts?
[04:47] <LaserJock> I'd try #ubuntu, I have no idea really.
[04:47] <knix_> I have been trying for a half and hour, ty anyway
[04:48] <LaserJock> sometimes my toshiba loses sound when I come back from hibernation
[04:48] <LaserJock> but I think it's  a hardware thing because it does the same thing in Windows
[04:49] <knix_> im not sure how to get it back without reinstalling
[04:50] <knix_> maybe i should just post in the forums
[04:51] <LaserJock> knix_: yes, or perhaps file a bug
[04:51] <knix_> kk, ty
[06:57] <kenthomson> HELP; I have ubuntu 6.10 installed on BOX-A, i need to setup another computer BOX-B, such that it could netboot (PXE) from BOX-A, without needing any media of its own. I want to make BOX-B boot via LAN(Ethernet)(Cross-connection) from my main BOX. Could you tell me the packages that i would need to setup LTSP?
[06:59] <kenthomson> Anyone willing to help?
[06:59] <Burgundavia> http://edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[07:00] <kenthomson> Burgundavia, thats it?
[07:01] <Burgundavia> kenthomson: that is the basics
[07:02] <Burgundavia> for box-b, you will need either a nic that network boots or a boot disk
[07:03] <Burgundavia> sorry, have to run now
[07:08] <kenthomson> this channel is generally asleep, could someone please merge it with ubuntu or *buntu, to allow better response
[07:08] <kenthomson> ;-(
[08:30] <Burgundavia> hmm
[12:03] <juliux> hi
[12:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> if (better responce needed); ask elseware; fi
[04:27] <rockprincess> happy easter everyone! :)
[04:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> happy easter rockprincess :)
[04:28] <rockprincess> hello kamping_kaiser :) what are you up to?
[04:30] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, watching the cricket scoreboard, feeling like stopping and just sleeping ( ;) ), and playing wesnoth
[04:31] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: hahaa so do i, except for watching cricket and playing wesnoth :)
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[04:31] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, its 00:01 here, i dont think you have that excuse ;)
[04:33] <Kamping_Kaiser> mind you, i need to suck less if i want to get anyware with wesnoth
[04:34] <rockprincess> Kamping_Kaiser: true, but I am always feeling kind of sleepy after lunch ;) damn habit!
[04:36] <Kamping_Kaiser> hehe. *that* i sympathise with :)
[04:41] <rockprincess> kamping_kaiser: i'd like to call that power napping ;)
[04:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> rockprincess, i'm happy to call it sleep ;)
[04:43] <juliux> happy easter
[04:43] <juliux> has somebody tried to make the chroot system of the ltsp a littlebit smaller?
[04:45] <juliux> an other question can this work ltspserver->wlan->wlantoethernet bridge->client?
[04:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, if your wlan is fast enough, and your dhcp server/s allow the right options
[04:47] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, i have a 54mbit wlan
[04:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> should be easily fast enough for most stuff, as long as it runs at full speed
[04:48] <juliux> cool
[04:50] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, any ideas how i can make the ltsp chroot smaller? i only need a minimal system not all the X11 stuff
[04:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, chroot shouldnt contain any x stuff at all
[04:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> oh, it contains a lot
[04:52] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, the chroot is around 340MB
[04:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> juliux, i was working on stripping down clients, but the aim wasnt to have them work after i striped them down. however, if you debfoster out everything short of ubuntu-minimal and ldm, you should be well on the way
[04:53] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, thxs
[04:54] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, i dont need ldm i only need a terminal;)
[04:55] <juliux> Kamping_Kaiser, my idea is to create a small thinclient as musicbox, to deliver the music to my hifi system
[04:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah, in that case strip it right down :)
[04:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i was trying to get a minimal client booting as a gateway, didnt get it finished though.
[04:58] <juliux> my first idea was to boot the thinclient via a usb stick but the bios can t boot from usb hdd
[07:38] <terrestre> I receive the edubuntu dappper cd, and yesterday I tried to install but all the cd stop in the middle of the instalation
[07:47] <HedgeMage> terrestre: did you do the "verify CD" option on boot to make sure it is not a damaged CD?
[07:47] <terrestre> good question, the answer its no, I just change the cd every time
[07:48] <HedgeMage> terrestre: when you boot up, make sure to do "verify cd" to make sure the CD is okay... if the CD passes that test, but still stops mid-install, come back and tell us exactly what step it was on when it froze, what hardware you have, and what error message(s) you got
[07:51] <terrestre> ok
[07:51] <terrestre> thanks HedgeMage
[08:18] <terrestre> hi again, I did the check cd error
[08:19] <HedgeMage> I'm sorry, are you saying that the CD had an error in it, or that it wasn't the CD and you are going to tell us the error message so we can try to help?
[08:21] <terrestre> sorry for my english, well its said that its all ok, but im now checking for the other cd, because after the ckeck, and its said that all its ak something funny happend
[08:21] <terrestre> sorry for my english, well its said that its all ok, but im now checking for the other cd, because after the ckeck, and its said that all its ak something funny happend
[08:25] <terrestre> return a messaage that said "weir return 0" and start a loop saying cat:/proc/cmdline      rm unable to remove /lib/unifont.bgf read only file system
[08:25] <terrestre> now the second edubuntu cd, its said its all ok and nothing bad happend, so now im trying to install that cd
[08:33] <terrestre> ok, here is the thing
[08:34] <terrestre> the installation stop exactly in 50% of "Building LTSP chroot"
[08:34] <terrestre> and I was using the cd with perfect integrity
[08:37] <terrestre> any idea?
[08:38] <sbalneav> Morning all
[08:40] <bonbonthejon> morning
[08:45] <terrestre> I have a installation stop exactly in 50% of "Building LTSP chroot" and a cd perfect integrity
[08:45] <terrestre> any idea
[08:46] <sbalneav> It's probably not "stopped"
[08:46] <sbalneav> It doesn't update the counter for a while.  Are you updating from CD or the network?
[08:46] <terrestre> installatino crash actually
[08:46] <terrestre> form a dapper cd
[08:46] <sbalneav> Well,"crash" is different from stopped :)
[08:46] <terrestre> a original
[08:46] <sbalneav> What error message does it give?
[08:46] <terrestre> jajaja now I now
[08:47] <terrestre> none, just a black screen
[08:47] <sbalneav> And how are you trying to build it?  What command are you using?
[08:47] <sbalneav> Can you control-alt-F1 back to another vty?
[08:47] <terrestre> no, just put the cd and go to the intalll optioy
[08:47] <terrestre> mmm i dont tried that
[08:48] <terrestre> let me see
[08:48] <sbalneav> When it's installing the chroot, it can sometimes mess up the display.  It might not be chrashed.
[08:49] <terrestre> thanks man
[08:49] <terrestre> i feel like and idiot
[08:49] <terrestre> jajaja I dont trie the ctrl+alt thing
[08:49] <terrestre> my mistacke
[08:50] <terrestre> nooo, wait
[08:50] <terrestre> now the black screen
[08:51] <terrestre> and no response from ctrl+alt F1....F8
[08:52] <sbalneav> Hmm, so looks like something in the X detection might be messing things up.
[08:53] <terrestre> all the cd give me the same black screen
[08:53] <terrestre> thats a crash or a stop?
[08:53] <terrestre> and no response of the pc
[08:53] <sbalneav> What kind of video card is in the machine?
[08:53] <terrestre> but de caps lock botton can be on off the light
[08:53] <terrestre> intel, i910 its a toshiba laptop
[08:54] <terrestre> so theres no video card :)
[08:54] <terrestre> sorry for my english
[08:55] <sbalneav> I think in the edgy version of edubuntu, they disabled the faulty X detection on the build of the chroot.  So you might have better luck with Edgy.  Apart from that, you might try starting the install in vesa mode.
[08:56] <terrestre> theres still no live cd of edubuntu?
[08:56] <terrestre> do you know were im have to change to vesa? or what command use?
[08:57] <sbalneav> Can you try an edgy cd? Or is dapper all you have?
[08:58] <terrestre> yeah just dapper, I request them and they arrive like a week
[08:59] <sbalneav> Hm.
[08:59] <terrestre> thats why I want to install, first time that I use edubuntu
[08:59] <sbalneav> I'd have to look it up, hold on...
[08:59] <terrestre> thanks
[09:00] <sbalneav> When toy boot up, is there a "safe" graphics mode option on the menu?
[09:00] <terrestre> let me boot
[09:01] <terrestre> loading and
[09:01] <terrestre> install a workstation that the second option
[09:01] <terrestre> no, safe mode
[09:02] <sbalneav> ok, try installing a workstation
[09:03] <terrestre> o right
[09:03] <sbalneav> Seeing as how it's the ltsp chroot that's failing.
[09:03] <sbalneav> If you need it, you can always install it later
[09:03] <sbalneav> Are you going to be booting thin clients off your laptop?
[09:04] <terrestre> sorry i dont understand your question
[09:05] <sbalneav> Edubuntu can boot diskless clients from it, like in a classroom.  Are you planning on doing that from your laptop?
[09:05] <terrestre> ooh no right now
[09:06] <terrestre> its for my personal use this laptop
[09:06] <sbalneav> ok, then a workstation installation should be fine.
[09:07] <terrestre> sbalneav, so, with one pc i can "give" edubuntu to other pc in a network?
[09:07] <terrestre> or Im understand wrong?
[09:08] <sbalneav> Yep.  You can boot multiple thin clients off of one edubuntu machine.
[09:08] <sbalneav> http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/handbook/C/
[09:08] <terrestre> that can be do it whit all ubuntu?
[09:08] <terrestre> thanks
[09:09] <sbalneav> This is for the most recent edubuntu (feisty), but most of the information should be the same.
[09:09] <terrestre> maybe I gonna try feisty, too
[09:09] <terrestre> but I dont have any cd right now
[09:10] <sbalneav> You're in Chile?
[09:10] <sbalneav> Going to FISL 8.0?
[09:10] <sbalneav> In Brazil?
[09:10] <terrestre> Cihle
[09:10] <terrestre> Chile
[09:11] <terrestre> thats my country
[09:11] <sbalneav> Are you planning on attending FISL?
[09:11] <terrestre> i dont even know what its that
[09:12] <sbalneav> http://fisl.softwarelivre.org/8.0/www/
[09:12] <terrestre> Feria Internacional software Libre
[09:12] <sbalneav> I'll be there next week.
[09:13] <terrestre> really?
[09:13] <terrestre> where are you from?
[09:13] <sbalneav> yep
[09:13] <sbalneav> Canada
[09:13] <sbalneav> Winnipeg, Manitoba, to be exact
[09:13] <terrestre> do you travel?
[09:13] <terrestre> sorry my english
[09:14] <terrestre> canada ---> brasil ---> chile?
[09:14] <sbalneav> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=winnipeg&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=49.883575,-97.148666&spn=0.106405,0.317917&om=1&iwloc=addr
[09:14] <terrestre> this pc its a slow to open web
[09:14] <terrestre> so im now in the first link
[09:15] <sbalneav> I'm flying from Canada to Brazil.  But lots of people from all over South America come to fisl.  Chile, Argentina, etc.
[09:15] <terrestre> ooh
[09:16] <terrestre> well im 27 years old but im still a student so i dont have the money to fly
[09:17] <sbalneav> What are you studying?
[09:17] <terrestre> techinical informatics
[09:18] <sbalneav> Sounds great
[09:18] <terrestre> but its stuff like put toguether a LAN and hardware stuff
[09:18] <terrestre> but for some reason I start in linux for a year now
[09:20] <terrestre> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=winnipeg&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=12&ll=49.883575,-97.148666&spn=0.106405,0.317917&om=1&iwloc=addr <----- heres my city, i dont know if you can see anything
[09:24] <terrestre> all seems ok , so im still waiting
[09:24] <sbalneav> That's still winnipeg :)
[09:24] <terrestre> jajajaja
[09:24] <terrestre> sorry
[09:24] <sbalneav> You need to click in "link to ths page" :)
[09:24] <terrestre> well my city call antofagasta
[09:25] <terrestre> jaja i now, my fault
[09:25] <terrestre> antofagasta, norht of chile
[09:25] <terrestre> north
[09:25] <sbalneav> Ah, coastal city
[09:25] <terrestre> yeah
[09:25] <sbalneav> Sunsets must be beautiful
[09:26] <terrestre> yeah, and with 2 dyas of rain in the year
[09:26] <terrestre> its  a sunny city
[09:27] <terrestre> sbalneav, you know, all goes well and now the black screen
[09:27] <terrestre> maybe I have to download a different version
[09:27] <sbalneav> What does it do right before the black screen?
[09:27] <sbalneav> lets try this
[09:28] <sbalneav> Lets add the noacpi option
[09:28] <sbalneav> see if that helps
[09:28] <terrestre> ok, but how?
[09:29] <terrestre> sorry for take out your time
[09:29] <sbalneav> k, lets go to the boot screen
[09:29] <sbalneav> and on "workstation installation", instead of hitting "enter", hit "e" to edit the boot parameters
[09:29] <terrestre> aah ok
[09:30] <terrestre> im rebooting
[09:31] <terrestre> nothing happend with e
[09:31] <terrestre> but I tried with F6
[09:31] <terrestre> and a see de boot secuence
[09:31] <terrestre> I see
[09:31] <terrestre> Boot Options z ramdis-size=16384 root=/dev/ram rw quiet --
[09:32] <terrestre> its that ok?
[09:33] <sbalneav> ok, after "quiet", add:
[09:33] <sbalneav> acpi=off
[09:33] <sbalneav> so it should look like:
[09:33] <sbalneav> ... rw quiet acpi=off --
[09:33] <sbalneav> then do a "b" for boot
[09:34] <sbalneav> lets see of that gets any farther
[09:34] <terrestre> okidoki
[09:36] <terrestre> here we go again
[09:39] <terrestre> do you work whit computers?
[09:39] <sbalneav> Yup
[09:40] <sbalneav> I'm the sysadmin for Legal Aid Manitoba
[09:40] <sbalneav> I'm also an LTSP developer
[09:40] <sbalneav> And a contributor to Edubuntu :)
[09:40] <terrestre> ooh that graet
[09:40] <terrestre> thtas great
[09:41] <terrestre> Legal Aid Manitoba exists to help people - individuals and groups - who need a lawyer but who cannot afford to pay for one
[09:41] <terrestre> nice organization
[09:42] <sbalneav> We try :)
[09:42] <terrestre> do you a developter of LTSP haha just in the place that I have the problem
[09:43] <terrestre> here wee go
[09:43] <terrestre> configuring apt
[09:44] <__Serge__> Hi
[09:44] <terrestre> hi
[09:44] <__Serge__> I'd like to make you a question...
[09:44] <terrestre> go ahead
[09:45] <__Serge__> Do u know how to install ubuntu? How can i install it in the "standard" way?
[09:45] <__Serge__> it has a lot of options...
[09:45] <__Serge__> i tryed, ut it didn't work very well... so i installed windows again...
[09:45] <terrestre> what version of ubuntu?
[09:46] <__Serge__> (hablas espaol?)
[09:46] <terrestre> actually i dont spealk english
[09:46] <terrestre> jajaja
[09:46] <terrestre> go tu #kubuntu-es
[09:46] <terrestre> to
[09:46] <__Serge__> espera
[09:46] <__Serge__> entonces hablemos espaool... : p
[09:46] <__Serge__> la version es la 5.04
[09:47] <merriam> Ubuntu has come a long way since 5.04.
[09:47] <terrestre> es q aca no se puede
[09:47] <terrestre> por eso te di la otra direccion
[09:47] <__Serge__> ok.
[09:47] <terrestre> yeah
[09:48] <terrestre> ooh yeah
[09:48] <terrestre> sbalneav, settinge lenaguage package
[09:48] <sbalneav> getting farther?
[09:49] <terrestre> now writing extended stat information, i dont know why every time try to connect to dhcp
[09:49] <terrestre> i dont have dhcp, and i not activate
[09:49] <merriam> __Serge__: I recommend waiting for the release of 7.04.
[09:50] <__Serge__> i see...
[09:50] <__Serge__> but when it will be launched?
[09:50] <sbalneav> It always tries to set the IP address by dhcp
[09:51] <merriam> probably the 19th.  http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28distribuci%C3%B3n_Linux%29#Lanzamientos
[09:55] <terrestre> sbalneav, unpacking debs,
[09:55] <terrestre> jojojo
[09:56] <sbalneav> Good, seems that did tickhe tr
[09:56] <sbalneav> Whoops, darned touchpad
[09:56] <sbalneav> that did the trick
[09:56] <terrestre> darned? haha i dont know that word
[09:59] <sbalneav> Polite substitute for a swear word :)
[09:59] <terrestre> oooh
[09:59] <terrestre> jajajaja
[10:00] <terrestre> unpaking openoffice, its loonk nice
[10:00] <terrestre> jajajja
[10:02] <terrestre> sbalneav, im give up
[10:02] <terrestre> the black screen
[10:02] <terrestre> so im go to download and install other day
[10:03] <sbalneav> Hm
[10:03] <sbalneav> Well, it got farther this time.
[10:03] <terrestre> mmm im five 2 cd to some friends
[10:03] <terrestre> give
[10:03] <terrestre> im gonna ask them if them can install it
[10:03] <sbalneav> You might want to check and see if there's any BIOS updates for your laptop
[10:03] <terrestre> thats could help?
[10:04] <sbalneav> This sort of random lockup is sometimes because of a buggy bios.
[10:04] <terrestre> oooh
[10:04] <terrestre> but kubuntu, ubuntu, its ok
[10:04] <sbalneav> I had a motherboard that wouldn't install Ubuntu, a bios update fixed it.
[10:04] <terrestre> thats no mean anything?
[10:04] <sbalneav> Oh, Ubuntu installs?
[10:04] <terrestre> yeah
[10:04] <sbalneav> Oh, easy then.
[10:04] <sbalneav> Install ubuntu
[10:04] <sbalneav> Then:
[10:04] <terrestre> its kubuntu installed
[10:05] <sbalneav> apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[10:05] <terrestre> actually im using it
[10:05] <sbalneav> instant Edubuntu machine :)
[10:05] <terrestre> jajjaja
[10:05] <terrestre> yeah thats true
[10:05] <terrestre> but that always give me library problem later
[10:05] <sbalneav> But check the bios thing too.
[10:05] <sbalneav> Shouldn't
[10:05] <terrestre> ubuntu in server mode?
[10:06] <terrestre> with no grapigh and then edubuntu
[10:06] <terrestre> or better with gnome and then edubuntu?
[10:07] <sbalneav> Stock Ubuntu (gnome), and then upgrade to Edubuntu would be a bit faster, I think
[10:08] <terrestre> thanks
[10:08] <terrestre> im really apreciate your pacience
[10:09] <terrestre> jaja here my ubuntu edgy cd, now on feisty in kubuntu, here we go, edubuntu
[10:19] <terrestre> sbalneav, now installing, now i go to launch, eat... just one more quiestion, its a good thing use the same swap for 2 dostros, in this case kubuntu feisty and edubuntu edgy or better a swap for each one
[10:19] <sbalneav> Shouldn't matter.  Swap format hasn't changed for a long time.
[10:21] <LaserJock> sbalneav: do you have an account on ubuntuforums.org?
[10:21] <terrestre> some one tell me that if we are hibernating in kubuntu and then we reboot in to edubuntu , if we use the same swapp for both then were lost de hibernate
[10:22] <sbalneav> LaserJock: Ummm, I think so, hold on, let me see if I can log in.
[10:22] <sbalneav> yep I do
[10:23] <sbalneav> terrestre: Ah, well, that may be
[10:23] <sbalneav> I never hibernate.
[10:23] <terrestre> jajaja
[10:23] <terrestre> thats a good solution
[10:23] <terrestre> bye bye
[10:23] <sbalneav> cya
[10:24] <LaserJock> sbalneav: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=404529
[10:24] <sbalneav> Ah, ok
[10:24] <sbalneav> I'll look into it.
[10:24] <LaserJock> I don't have enough expertise there
[10:28] <sbalneav> I don't think he's even got LTSP installed yet, from the look of it.
[10:29] <sbalneav> I've pointed him at the install for that.
[10:31] <LaserJock> yeah, I just don't know how installation of LTSP from Ubuntu is now
[11:08] <__Serge__> Hi
[11:08] <__Serge__> I have a question...
[12:04] <Burgundavia> sbalneav: is there a good list of ltsp improvements in Feisty
[12:04] <Burgundavia> ?
[12:04] <sbalneav> Umm, I don't think anyone's written down a list.
[12:04] <Burgundavia> hmm
[12:04] <LaserJock> "It's just Better, Stupid" ?
[12:05] <LaserJock> that kind of question comes up a lot
[12:05] <LaserJock> people asking for a changelog
[12:06] <LaserJock> seems like it'd be helpful to come up with some sort of easy way to generate one
[12:07] <Burgundavia> yep
[12:07] <Burgundavia> well, there is tcm
[12:10] <ajmitch> LaserJock: it's Release Note time! :)
[12:10] <Burgundavia> we need good notes