[12:12] <raffytaffy> and add the correct resolution
[12:12] <crazy_penguin> 'night to all! :)
[12:12] <raffytaffy> restart xserver
[12:12] <iain> nope xrandr doesn't list it :-/
[12:13] <eeanm> raffytaffy: kwrite silly ;)
[12:13] <don_jr__> kumamoto I did the ps auxw |grep dpkg and it gave me this :
[12:13] <don_jr__> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:13] <don_jr__> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:13] <raffytaffy> eeanm: i have both kde and gnome ; im used to gedit. sorry:P
[12:13] <iain> lol. Actually I prefer gedit ;)
[12:13] <eeanm> iain: so yea, do what raffytaffy said
[12:14] <iain> gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf it is ;) - funny feeling I edited it before
[12:14] <kumamoto> don_jr__: and no other application is using dpkg
[12:14] <raffytaffy> make sure u save it:P
[12:14] <don_jr__> oh, let me run it again
[12:14] <raffytaffy> add it in this fashin "1280x800" "1024x768"
[12:14] <iain> in the section monitor
[12:14] <don_jr__> don       6539  0.0  0.2   1628   440 pts/1    R+   17:14   0:00 grep dpkg  That's what the grep command you gave me shows
[12:14] <iain> it's there
[12:14] <iain> twice
[12:15] <raffytaffy> ill show u mines
[12:15] <raffytaffy> one sec
[12:15] <iain> 1280x800@60
[12:15] <kumamoto> don_jr__: how many console u have opened?
[12:15] <don_jr__> kumamoto only this one I"m using
[12:16] <raffytaffy> iain http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14464
[12:16] <nonuda> don_jr__, try restart the pc then open the console then run sudo apt-get
[12:16] <don_jr__> kumamoto I'll shut it off and start a new one, see if that fixes
[12:16] <raffytaffy> try it without the @60
[12:16] <don_jr__> may have to restart, but gonna try not to before I"m done updating my other one, using this one to look at the instructions on a web page
[12:17] <terrestre> i cant compile spca5xx
[12:19] <kumamoto> don_jr__: that error message usually indicates that another application is using dpkg
[12:19] <don_jr__> I'm almost done upgrading from dapper to edgy
[12:19] <kumamoto> if u were upgrading that is why
[12:19] <raffytaffy> lol!
[12:19] <malakoff> No ideas for my sound problem ? :/
[12:19] <jryhiggins> !fixade[t
[12:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fixade[t - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Cosmo_>  is there a way that you can set up a shortcut or something that will run terminal commands (for example running terminal commands to run WoW with wine)? I'm fairly new to linux/kubuntu so not sure if this can be done.
[12:20] <jryhiggins> !adeptfix
[12:20] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:20] <don_jr__> kumamoto I"m upgrading my desktop, using my laptop(which I'm on now and having trouble purging with) to look at the website that's telling me how to upgrade
[12:20] <iain> hey raffy just for clarity I've posted up what that section in my conf file looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14465/
[12:20] <kumamoto> jryhiggins: how u activate ubotu
[12:20] <raffytaffy> ok let me see here iain
[12:21] <raffytaffy> iain : can u try something please?
[12:21] <raffytaffy> on line 28
[12:21] <raffytaffy> modes "1280x800" and then the rest
[12:21] <raffytaffy> without the @60 ok?
[12:22] <don_jr__> Okay kumamoto that database is locked thing fixed it, I ran the purge and it came back with nothing removed, nothing changed...does that mean gnome no longer exists on my computer
[12:22] <don_jr__> I do a locate gnome, and there's still alot of stuff there!
[12:22] <iain> cool ;)...Think that's something to do with the refresh rate but i'll drop it ;) (I didn't add it myself it was like that afte the install!)
[12:22] <vbvb> i can t install any file for kubuntu
[12:23] <vbvb> help
[12:23] <sdlnxgk> !pastebin
[12:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:23] <vbvb> i want the method
[12:23] <terrestre> don_jr__: jajaja
[12:23] <raffytaffy> iain i had similar problem ..once i took out the @60 it fixed itself
[12:23] <Alonea> vbvb: like, when you install something with adept it fails?
[12:23] <vbvb> how can i use adept
[12:23] <vbvb> ?
[12:24] <iain> about to restart X...so I'll drop offline for a few minutes. Thanks Raffy and I'll be back ;)
[12:24] <raffytaffy> ok let me know how it went
[12:24] <don_jr__> vbvb click the blue box, click on system click on adept, search for the program name you want, find it, click on it, select install, then click apply and it will install
[12:24] <kumamoto> don_jr__: do u have apt-show
[12:24] <sdlnxgk> can someone check this out and find out why these packages won't install??? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14466/
[12:24] <don_jr__> kumamoto not sure, let me try it
[12:25] <don_jr__> command not found
[12:25] <kumamoto> don_jr__: do u have adept installed yet?
[12:25] <don_jr__> I have it on my laptop here that I"m trying to remove gnome from yes
[12:26] <kumamoto> and adept can't remove it
[12:26] <don_jr__> kumamoto havn't tried, not sure what to remove with it
[12:28] <don_jr__> Yay, my desktop has the kubuntu startup splash!!! I did something right, so long as it starts up all the way! lol
[12:28] <kumamoto> don_jr__: u r connected to your kubuntu desktop from your laptop
[12:28] <scythefwd> has anyone gotten a zip 100 to work with kubuntu 6.06?
[12:29] <don_jr__> kumamoto no, forget laptop for a bit now......desktop just got done upgrading from dapper to edgy now won't start up.  first splash screen popped up, bar went all the way across, then it booted me into a console
[12:30] <scythefwd> don, did you try a start x?
[12:30] <kumamoto> statx
[12:30] <kumamoto> startx
[12:30] <iain> Thank YOU Raffy!
[12:30] <iain> that worked!
[12:30] <iain> :-D
[12:30] <raffytaffy> i knew it would lol
[12:30] <iain> I'm sooo pleased
[12:30] <don_jr__> scythefwd no I hav'nt, I try that now
[12:31] <raffytaffy>  /etc/init.d/kdm start
[12:31] <don_jr__> I do, sudo start x and it tells me start:unknown job: x
[12:31] <iain> If we're ever in the same city I owe you a drink ;)
[12:31] <iain> right now you'll have to settle for a large dose of cyberkudos
[12:31] <raffytaffy> lol
[12:31] <scythefwd> don, capital X, sorry bout that
[12:31] <kumamoto> don_jr__: can u login from the console
[12:31] <don_jr__> raffytaffy if I do that command it tells me kdm is already running
[12:32] <raffytaffy> don_jr__ try /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:32] <terrestre> ctrl-alt-F7
[12:32] <scythefwd> anyone still using a zip100
[12:32] <terrestre> :)
[12:32] <don_jr__> kumamoto yes I'm logged in.  scythefwd start: Unknown job: X
[12:32] <kumamoto> shit forgot about gdm and kdm
[12:32] <kumamoto> so startx won't work
[12:33] <don_jr__> raffytaffy -bash: /etc/init.d/gdm: No such file or directory
[12:33] <raffytaffy> u dont have gdm do u lol
[12:33] <terrestre> don_jr__: you uninstall gdm, remember?
[12:33] <raffytaffy> i keep forgeting
[12:33] <kumamoto> don_jr__: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[12:33] <don_jr__> kumamoto okay, I was doing this sudo start X"  then I did sudo, startx withou spaces and it gave me feed back
[12:33] <don_jr__> say it's having trouble with my nvidia card again.....
[12:33] <kumamoto> oh keep forgetting sudo
[12:34] <kumamoto> did u install the nvidia driver
[12:34] <terrestre> i cant compile spca5xx
[12:34] <terrestre> :(
[12:34] <don_jr__> say son of a buck.......I gotta figure out how to manually get the nvidia drivers agian from console......kumamoto I had them before I upgraded, han'vt reinstalled since upgrade.
[12:34] <nonuda> hmm...nvidia
[12:34] <kumamoto> terrestre: is a spca5xx a driver/module?
[12:34] <raffytaffy> don_jr__ do u have the nvidia installer @ home folder?
[12:34] <terrestre> yeah
[12:35] <kumamoto> terrestre: modprobe
[12:35] <terrestre> thats the wird thing
[12:35] <terrestre> wird
[12:35] <vbvb> how can update kubuntu?
[12:35] <terrestre> weird
[12:35] <don_jr__> raffytaffy I don't know, I installed it manually through console only using a program someone gave me that I don't remember now.......god I"m a dope today
[12:35] <raffytaffy> its ok dude
[12:35] <raffytaffy> if u can get the installer
[12:35] <raffytaffy> i can tell u how to use it
[12:35] <kumamoto> don_jr__: we all have those days
[12:35] <fdoving> don_jr__: envy maybe?
[12:35] <fdoving> !envy
[12:35] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[12:36] <nonuda> reconfigure your x use nv
[12:36] <raffytaffy> i use the installer from nvidia website
[12:36] <terrestre> kumamoto: i read spca5xx shoud be install but i did modprobe spca5xx andn dont find it
[12:36] <don_jr__> raffytaffy  yes ENVY!! Thank you fdoving!! lol
[12:36] <kumamoto> nvidia site has it and also kubuntu repos caould have them
[12:36] <raffytaffy> i never used envy
[12:36] <kumamoto> terrestre: lsmod
[12:36] <nonuda> envy sometimes messing up my system
[12:36] <raffytaffy> i use nvidia-linux-x86.....pkg1
[12:36] <don_jr__> but someone told me how to do it from console only.  I don't know how to get it from console only, most of those sites assume you have X
[12:37] <raffytaffy> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html
[12:37] <kumamoto> don_jr__: raffytaffy method is console
[12:37] <luapv> vbvb: try Adept Manager Manage Packages from the kde menu
[12:37] <nonuda> do_jr__, reconfigue x server then choose nv driver, it make x start on your nvidia card
[12:37] <don_jr__> clicked and opening, thank you
[12:37] <terrestre> kumamoto: lsmod, what i have to find?
[12:38] <don_jr__> raffytaffy if I download one of those files from my laptop how will I transfer it over to my desktop?
[12:38] <terrestre> what do i have to find
[12:38] <raffytaffy> can u burn it onto a disk"?
[12:38] <raffytaffy> or use a mp3 player?
[12:39] <kumamoto> terrestre: is it listed
[12:39] <don_jr__> and which of those files do I need?? heh
[12:39] <terrestre> spca5xx, nop
[12:39] <raffytaffy> Linux IA32
[12:39] <raffytaffy> unless u have 64bit
[12:39] <kumamoto> terrestre: insmod /path/to/spca5xx
[12:39] <kumamoto> terrestre: try that
[12:40] <don_jr__> raffytaffy okay, I'll download that one, buthten how do I transfer it from my laptop to my desktop?
[12:40] <terrestre> kumamoto:
[12:40] <raffytaffy> don_jr__ do u have an mp3 player with a usb cable?
[12:40] <lpane> hello. sorry to drop in the middle of the discution but I also would like to install nvidia driver insted of the nv I have installed now..
[12:40] <terrestre> kumamoto: are you on edgy or feisty?
[12:40] <kumamoto> don_jr__: make sure to add the nvida driver directive to xorg.conf it isn't done automatically
[12:41] <don_jr__> raffytaffy no I don't have an mp3 player at all
[12:41] <luapv> lpane: go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and select the driver appropriate for your system
[12:41] <terrestre> dpkg reconfigure-xserver-xorg
[12:41] <don_jr__> kumamoto I'll get to that when I can, gotta fix myself first! lol
[12:41] <raffytaffy> good question...how can u transfer that driver over to laptop
[12:41] <lpane>  am new to linux..  do I need to remove ou uninstall the nv driver before installing the nvidia?
[12:41] <PhinnFort> lpane: please ignore the others;)
[12:41] <PhinnFort> lpane: use "envy"
[12:41] <PhinnFort> !envy
[12:41] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[12:41] <PhinnFort> !envy | lpane
[12:41] <ubotu> lpane: please see above
[12:41] <terrestre> !beryl
[12:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:41] <raffytaffy> don_jr__ : stupid question
[12:42] <raffytaffy> do u have internet on the other puter?
[12:42] <don_jr__> rffytaffy from the desktop that is console only, can I set up ftp where the file is and get into it from teh console only desktop?
[12:42] <PhinnFort> lpane: it should automate everthing
[12:42] <lpane> well..   I tried with Automatix but it failed to intall
[12:42] <PhinnFort> lpane: try envy
[12:42] <kumamoto> terrestre: edgy I suppose funny thing I don't pay attention to if it is feisty edgy dapper or any other crap
[12:42] <raffytaffy> i was gona see if u can wget it somehow
[12:42] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, i used ENVY and it worked great
[12:42] <lpane> PhinnFort: did you use it?
[12:42] <don_jr__> raffytaffy okay, the one I am on right now, and am downloading the file with is the laptop.  My desktop is the one needing the files.  both are online, the desktop is console only
[12:42] <PhinnFort> lpane: i use the open source ATI Radeon driver, but everyone I know who has used it, had great success
[12:43] <nonuda> envy is my last option..hehe
[12:43] <raffytaffy> yes i know this
[12:43] <lpane> ubotu: you recommend downloading from nvidia website?
[12:43] <PhinnFort> lpane: ubotu is a bot
[12:43] <sdlnxgk> lpane, you have to  kill kdm then alt F1 and run ENVY
[12:43] <don_jr__> raffytaffy file is finished downloading.
[12:43] <raffytaffy> i have an idea don
[12:43] <etalli> how do I change konquerer to show me hidden files and folders?
[12:43] <PhinnFort> lpane: and don't download the drivers from NVidia
[12:43] <PhinnFort> directly
[12:43] <kumamoto> Ati is kind of more straight forward than nvidia
[12:43] <raffytaffy> try this command don_jr__
[12:44] <sdlnxgk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14466/  anyone look at this??
[12:44] <raffytaffy> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run.
[12:44] <raffytaffy> in the console
[12:44] <PhinnFort> raffytaffy: wtf?
[12:44] <lpane> phin: where do i get envy?
[12:44] <raffytaffy> PhinnFort he needs the nvidia driver
[12:44] <PhinnFort> raffytaffy: you shouldn't download the drivers from nvidia directly
[12:44] <PhinnFort> lpane: did you see the link?
[12:44] <etalli> how do I change konquerer to show me hidden files and folders?
[12:44] <PhinnFort> !envy | lpane
[12:44] <ubotu> lpane: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[12:45] <nonuda> !envy | lpane
[12:45] <kumamoto> etalli: view --> show hidden files
[12:45] <don_jr__> raffytaffy no such file or directory was returned to me when I typed that in
[12:45] <sdf_> i want compile c++program with kubuntu how?
[12:45] <kumamoto> terrestre: got it working
[12:45] <etalli> duh
[12:45] <PhinnFort> !compile | sdf_
[12:45] <don_jr__> will try once more incase I misstyped something
[12:45] <ubotu> sdf_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[12:45] <kumamoto> PhinnFort: how do u get that ubotu thingie
[12:45] <PhinnFort> lpane: download http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu4_all.deb and install it
[12:46] <lpane> phin: the link from the bot?
[12:46] <PhinnFort> kumamoto: it's a bot that reacts to commands which starts with !
[12:46] <PhinnFort> lpane: yeah
[12:46] <kumamoto> !vlc
[12:46] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[12:46] <kumamoto> nice
[12:46] <don_jr__> raffytaffy no such file or directory returned....
[12:46] <nonuda> yeah nice..
[12:47] <lpane> phin: I download the link you sent me and run it? that's it?
[12:47] <PhinnFort> lpane: you must install it
[12:47] <Alonea> ok, my windows box on my other hdd on my laptop is completely borked. I can see the drive in linux, but when I try to copy a file from it, it completely crashes linux. Not even magical sys rq works.
[12:47] <PhinnFort> lpane: right click -> ubuntu menu -> install package
[12:47] <PhinnFort> or similar
[12:48] <nonuda> don_jr__, wget http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[12:48] <PhinnFort> lpane: on the file
[12:48] <kumamoto> Alonea: don't know maybe it could be that it is 'read only'
[12:48] <PhinnFort> nonuda: why?
[12:48] <lpane> let me find this install package
[12:48] <PhinnFort> lpane: http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu4_all.deb
[12:48] <nonuda> ain't don want to download it with console?
[12:48] <emoXcore> roms in spanish?
[12:48] <PhinnFort> direct link to the package
[12:49] <emoXcore> spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiishhhhhhhhhhhh??
[12:49] <PhinnFort> !es | emoXcore
[12:49] <ubotu> emoXcore: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:49] <emoXcore> spanish?
[12:49] <emoXcore> _
[12:49] <lpane> emoXcore: que quieres saber?
[12:49] <PhinnFort> !es | lpane
[12:49] <ubotu> lpane: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:49] <Alonea> kumamoto: it was fine before...it started doing this after windows borked itself so bad I cant get into safe mode and the repair function is missing.
[12:50] <etalli> I have messed up my KDE panel, how do I reset it to teh defaults
[12:50] <lpane> phinn: i must confess i am a little afraid to install it..  do i need to remove my nv driver before?
[12:50] <PhinnFort> lpane: the script will handle that automatically
[12:50] <inanimate> Does anybody have any idea how to rip a DVD with K3b 1.0? I click on "Rip DVD" and it just opens up the folder with AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS...
[12:50] <nonuda> lpane, no u don't
[12:50] <lpane> phin:  ok.  5 min. bbs
[12:50] <PhinnFort> lpane: and don't worry, you can have the free nvidia driver and the proprietary installed at the same time
[12:51] <PhinnFort> inanimate: that's what's ripping is about, isn't it?
[12:51] <PhinnFort> inanimate: you want to re-encode?
[12:51] <PhinnFort> to xvid, maybe?
[12:51] <kumamoto> Alonea: reboot it and run chkdsk
[12:51] <PhinnFort> etalli: rm .kde/share/config/kickerrc
[12:52] <kumamoto> inanimate: those are the dirs to use to burn a dvd in k3b
[12:52] <inanimate> PhinnFort: Well with ripping being copying, I can't even get that far (there's no copy option). I could go the Konqueror route, but I thought ripping DVDs was a new feature of K3b. But yes, I would like to encode as well as copy
[12:52] <etalli> PhinnFort, then log out and in, right?
[12:52] <Alonea> kumamoto: I ran that on the cmd prompt off the win cd, and when I do the full it says there are errors, but I can't do the /f parameter on there. its not listed and doesn't work. I also can't expand the file off my disk to replace the one that it says is missing or corrupted. I get access denied.
[12:52] <PhinnFort> etalli: yeah
[12:52] <hansen> can anyone tell me what the /lib/modules/2.6.17-11-generic/volatile/ directory is for and why I only see an nvidia.ko file in there right after installing the restricted modules package? Rebooting seems to clear that dir -- meaning that I have to reinstall the restricted modules pkg every time to be able to start X...
[12:52] <PhinnFort> etalli: or killall kicker & kicker&
[12:52] <don_jr__> nonuda got back a 404 file not found
[12:52] <etalli> ok
[12:52] <PhinnFort> hansen: i believe "volatile" means it's some kind of ramdisk
[12:53] <kumamoto> Alonea: I am stumped too might considered calling MS and ask them what the dealio
[12:53] <hansen> PhinnFort: I suspect something like that, but then someone is supposed to copy stuff there at startup
[12:53] <josht> anyone care to help me with a little problem with alsa? I'm getting a sound delay (of about 1s)
[12:53] <Alonea> kumamoto: my laptop ran out of its warranty last month...I am not paying 90 dollars to talk to a tech
[12:53] <hansen> and appearantly that doesn't happen for  me
[12:53] <PhinnFort> hansen: i suspect it should come from the initrd
[12:54] <inanimate> kumamoto: All right. Well is there a dialogue to copy + encode?
[12:54] <hansen> ic
[12:54] <Alonea> kumamoto: I am figuring a format MIGHT work (otherwise hdd is borked permanently), but there is a file I really want off of there
[12:54] <PhinnFort> hansen: make sure the initrd for the kernel you are running has been regenerated after you installed the restricted modules
[12:54] <nonuda> envy will not work correctly if the nvidia is geforce4 mx 4000, it will download the latest version of the driver, and geforce4 can't work with the latest driver, that's what i got from installing nvidia driver
[12:54] <hansen> so I'd have to rebuild the initrd to include the nvidia driver -- kind of strange requirement for a module that is not needed to boot the system
[12:55] <nonuda> don_jr__, are u sure u r connected to the net?
[12:55] <PhinnFort> hansen: well, I'm not really sure, since it sounds really strange
[12:55] <PhinnFort> hansen: maybe file a bug
[12:55] <don_jr__> nonuda I got it with the ftp site now, thank you very much
[12:55] <nonuda> ahhh..
[12:55] <nonuda> ok
[12:55] <hansen> PhinnFort: ok, thanks. how do I create the initrd? (sorry for the stupid questions, I've sed suse for years and only recently "converted" to kubuntu)
[12:56] <sdf_> what are the advantages of kubuntu?
[12:56] <hansen> s/sed/used/
[12:56] <sdlnxgk> anyone good with "apt-get" ??? please look at my errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14466/
[12:56] <PhinnFort> hansen: I have no idea, it's supposed to be regenerated by the post-processing package scripts, i believe
[12:56] <sdf_> i mean     what are the differencies between kubuntu and windows?
[12:57] <PhinnFort> !advantages
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about advantages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <lpane> Phinn: dpkg: error processing envy (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:  envy Press <enter> to exit...
[12:57] <hansen> sdf_: that would be an apples and oranges comparison...
[12:57] <PhinnFort> lpane: can you paste the whole output?
[12:57] <lpane> phinn: looks like i dont have some dependencies
[12:57] <PhinnFort> lpane: oh, ok, i see now
[12:57] <PhinnFort> wait a sec
[12:57] <lpane> can i install it from apt-get?
[12:57] <sdf_> hansen:    what do you mean?
[12:57] <PhinnFort> lpane: run sudo apt-get install -f
[12:57] <sdlnxgk> sdf_, Kubuntu is free and is Awesome... WindBloze on the other hand is virus infected testing grounds
[12:58] <lpane> phin: what is that do?
[12:58] <PhinnFort> lpane: you know you can just write the first part of my nick and press "TAB" to auto-complete it?
[12:58] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:58] <PhinnFort> lpane: it should fix the depency problems
[12:58] <lpane> PhinnFort: did not know.
[12:58] <lpane> :-)
[12:58] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:58] <kumamoto> Alonea: have u tried mounting it manually via console
[12:58] <hansen> sdf_: that windows it, well, windows and kubuntu is linux (unix-like). My reason for using linux is that it's unix-like and I come from a unix background. Other people might have different reasons
[12:59] <PhinnFort> lpane: your message shows up in red when you type my whole nick
[12:59] <hansen> s/it/is/
[12:59] <PhinnFort> much easier to read
[12:59] <emoXcore> spanish=
[12:59] <lpane> PhinnFort: Ah... thats great. will try sudo apt-get install -f now
[12:59] <emoXcore> #kubuntu-es
[12:59] <PhinnFort> emoXcore: we know
[12:59] <emoXcore> jejej
[01:00] <emoXcore>  i cant speak englih -.-
[01:00] <Alonea> kumamoto: no. It mounts it automatically when I start up kubuntu. I can try
[01:00] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, take a look at this can't seem to get these packages install got this error message after doing update...
[01:00] <sdf_> i want any programs for kubuntu for speed download?
[01:00] <sdlnxgk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14466/
[01:00] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: feisty?
[01:00] <kumamoto> Alonea: is it mounted now?
[01:00] <PhinnFort> sdf_: try KGet
[01:00] <PhinnFort> sdf_: it should be installed by default
[01:01] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, no i'm using Edgy
[01:01] <nonuda> !KGet
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: can you run "ls -l /usr/share/fonts" in a konsole?
[01:01] <Alonea> kumamoto: no. I unmounted it because it was causing crashes if I looked at it for too long. So I unmounted to be on safe side.
[01:01] <PhinnFort> !inf kget
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inf kget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <PhinnFort> !info kget | sdf_
[01:01] <ubotu> sdf_: kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1.1 (edgy), package size 432 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[01:01] <lpane> PhinnFort: i am runnig Dapper Drake... is that ok?
[01:01] <kumamoto> try
[01:01] <PhinnFort> lpane: i believe so
[01:01] <kumamoto> Alonea: try mounting it and try mv or cp the file
[01:02] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, what should it do when I run that??
[01:02] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: what does it say?
[01:02] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: it should give you a line back
[01:02] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, it just goes to next line and displays >
[01:02] <lpane> PhinnFort: it looks like it has installed ok
[01:02] <Alonea> kumamoto: ok.
[01:03] <lpane> PhinnFort: what's next?
[01:03] <PhinnFort> lpane: find the program in the k-menu, i believe under "System"
[01:03] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, wait I messed up let me try it again
[01:03] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: try to run dpkg --configure -a
[01:03] <sdf_> can i read yahoo messeage from kubuntu?
[01:03] <lpane> PhinnFort: ok. there it was.
[01:03] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: oh, ok
[01:03] <PhinnFort> lpane: do you need further instructions?
[01:04] <Alonea> kumamoto: er, how do I mount it? like mount /dev/hda ? (that didnt work)
[01:04] <nonuda> lpane: u just can type envy -t in konsole
[01:04] <PhinnFort> !mount
[01:04] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:04] <PhinnFort> nonuda: that gives a textual UI
[01:04] <PhinnFort> not pretty;)
[01:04] <kumamoto> Alonea: it is ntfs right?
[01:04] <Alonea> kumamoto: yes
[01:04] <kumamoto> Alonea: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /
[01:04] <hansen> nonuda: re geforce4 suggestion: my card is not a geforce4, but I _have_ actually had the newest drivers from nvidia.com installed. But my system broke after the last x.org package upgrade, so I thought it was better to back down a version and use the nvidia driver packages for kubuntu edgy (ie, the one in the restricted modules package)
[01:04] <nonuda> PhinnFort: yup
[01:04] <kumamoto> Alonea: sorry
[01:05] <PhinnFort> hansen: that's a reason not to use the drivers directly from nvidia
[01:05] <lpane> PhinnFort: dont think so. THANTS.
[01:05] <kumamoto> Alonea: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /mnt/pnt
[01:05] <PhinnFort> lpane: you're welcome;)
[01:05] <PhinnFort> (have a happy flight:)
[01:05] <lpane> PhinnFort: ooops
[01:05] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, this is what I got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14475/
[01:05] <hansen> I'm pretty sure I managed to remove all traces of the  newer nvidia.com package, but the problem with the missing nvidia.ko module remains
[01:06] <lpane> install nvidia gave me an error popup without any text on it
[01:06] <kumamoto> where xx is (a-z)(1-9)
[01:06] <hansen> if I reinstall the restricted modules package, the file shows up and can be modprobe'd and then X works perfectly
[01:06] <nonuda> hansen: it was because the installation didn't installed correctly
[01:06] <Alonea> kumamoto: says /mnt/pnt does not exist
[01:06] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: try running "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[01:07] <lpane> PhinnFort: install nvidia gave me an error popup without any text on it
[01:07] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort,  just tried that and still getting the same error message
[01:07] <kumamoto> Alonea: /mnt/pnt isn't an actual dir you will have create one and mount it
[01:07] <PhinnFort> lpane: what text?
[01:07] <sdf_> now i download real player for linux and the file extension is bin
[01:07] <pkundu> how do I install KDE in ubuntu
[01:07] <sdf_> is this right?
[01:07] <kumamoto> /mnt/pnt was reference
[01:07] <pkundu> I use gnome but want to try kde
[01:07] <PhinnFort> pkundu: kubuntu-desktop
[01:07] <PhinnFort> pkundu: install that package
[01:07] <nonuda> pkundu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:08] <pkundu> thank you
[01:08] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: ls -l /usr/share/
[01:08] <Alonea> kumamoto: oh, ok. I put it at /media where it usually goes
[01:08] <lpane> PhinnFort: it opens a shell very quickly and then a small window apears with a error icon and a ok button.   no text at all
[01:08] <kumamoto> Alonea: that is good
[01:08] <PhinnFort> lpane: try running it in a konsole then
[01:08] <PhinnFort> "envy -t"
[01:09] <PhinnFort> sudo envy -t
[01:09] <PhinnFort> i mean
[01:09] <Alonea> kumamoto: how do I get to it? I do cd /media and it gives me permission denied and appending sudo does not work with cd
[01:10] <lpane> PhinnFort: this is the end i suppose... :  ENVY ERROR: Your Operative System does not seem to be supported by Envy
[01:10] <kumamoto> what are the permissions on /media
[01:10] <PhinnFort> lpane: dapper?
[01:10] <lpane> PhinnFort: yep
[01:10] <PhinnFort> lpane: you might have to do it manually, or upgrade to edgy
[01:10] <PhinnFort> !edgy | lpane
[01:10] <ubotu> lpane: Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Edgy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - Release Notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseNotes
[01:10] <PhinnFort> !nvidia | lpane
[01:10] <ubotu> lpane: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <terrestre> !gspca
[01:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gspca - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <hansen> !info initrd
[01:10] <ubotu> Package initrd does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:11] <PhinnFort> !initrd
[01:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about initrd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:11] <Alonea> kumamoto: its not user permissions..its root
[01:11] <terrestre> spca5xx, not work any more, now we have to use gspca
[01:11] <wolferine> will google earth work?
[01:11] <wolferine> or is it just a wine app?
[01:11] <lpane> PhinnFort: thanks. will see if upgrading is easy..
[01:11] <PhinnFort> hansen: i suspect the proprietary driver installer messed something up
[01:12] <nonuda> lpane: upgrading is taking much time coz its very big..hehe but it worth
[01:12] <kumamoto> ok create another dir in your home dir say mkdir /home/<username>/media
[01:12] <PhinnFort> lpane: there are several reasons to upgrade, like booting is much faster;)
[01:13] <kumamoto> chown <username>:<username> /home/<username>/media
[01:13] <hansen> PhinnFort: that's probably true, otoh the reason why I installed the nvidia supplied driver in the first place was that the kubuntu packaged one did not work right away either
[01:13] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort,  what am I looking for in "ls -l /usr/share/"
[01:13] <Alonea> kumamoto: ok, I tried opening up konqueror and going to my media and I can't even open it up anymore
[01:13] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: the line with "font"
[01:13] <PhinnFort> "fonts" i mean
[01:13] <PhinnFort> the folder
[01:13] <PhinnFort> that isn't getting scanned
[01:13] <Alonea> kumamoto: Unable to enter file:///media. You do not have access rights to this location.
[01:13] <sdlnxgk> hansen, had the same problem and used Envy and fixed all that Nvidia working great with 3d drivers :)
[01:14] <pollyo> What is the room for general chitchat?
[01:14] <hansen> PhinnFort: iirc I was not even offered the prop. nvidia driver during X setup, only the OSS "nv" driver that has to 3D etc
[01:14] <kumamoto> Alonea: then cd then sudo umount /media then mount -t ntfs /dev/hdxx /home/<username>/media
[01:14] <pollyo> Actually before I head over to it...
[01:14] <kumamoto> Alonea: hope not too much information at the same time
[01:14] <PhinnFort> hansen: that's because the binary/prop drivers aren't officially supported
[01:14] <hansen> my card is an nvidia quadro fx 3500, maybe that hasn't been tested with kubuntu edgy...
[01:14] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/76778
[01:14] <pollyo> Do I have to take into account anything when I go look for a 750Gig hard drive for Kubuntu?
[01:15] <oem> can someone tell me how to switch from the oem user?
[01:15] <PhinnFort> pollyo: get as good as drive as possible;)
[01:15] <PhinnFort> !oem
[01:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[01:15] <pollyo> PhinnFort:What is considered a good drive?
[01:15] <PhinnFort> pollyo: good speed, lots of cache, etc.
[01:16] <lpane> PhinnFort: I ran: gksu "update-manager -c" but got erros maybe it does not upgrade from daper
[01:16] <pollyo> Anyone have suggestions for USA based sites that sell harddrives?
[01:16] <PhinnFort> lpane: that's for ubuntu, not kubuntu, afaik
[01:16] <hansen> sdlnxgk: sounds interesting, so what did you do? Download from http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html and run? Anything special I should be aware of?
[01:16] <sdlnxgk> PhinnFort, thanks reading bug report now..
[01:16] <kumamoto> pollyo: tigerdirect
[01:17] <kumamoto> pollyo: newegg.com
[01:17] <PhinnFort> sdlnxgk: seems like it's not only you having that problem
[01:17] <Alonea> kumamoto: I still get permission denied
[01:17] <pollyo> Kumamoto: They have been around forever...
[01:17] <lpane> PhinnFort: .. yeah..  u see i am new to this...
[01:17] <Alonea> kumamoto: where ever I mount it, I get permission denied
[01:17] <kumamoto> Alonea: permission errors from where
[01:17] <pollyo> Kumaamoto: I remember purchasing something from them years ago... Atleast 10 years now...
[01:17] <PhinnFort> lpane: so am I;)
[01:17] <PhinnFort> Alonea: NTFS?
[01:18] <PhinnFort> Alonea: use ntfs-3g
[01:18] <Alonea> kumamoto: both cmd and konqueror
[01:18] <sdf_> i download realplear for linux with extension bin           how can i install it?
[01:18] <Alonea> PhinnFort: I have that. just installed it
[01:18] <sdlnxgk> hansen, yes downloaded it from that site and went to ctrl+alt+F1 into console and killed KDM and then installed via console and it worked great.... then come back and configure in KDE
[01:18] <PhinnFort> Alonea: the default ntfs driver doesn't allow other than root to read by default
[01:18] <PhinnFort> Alonea: then I don't think you're using it
[01:18] <kumamoto> Alonea: crap forgot about ntfs-3g
[01:18] <Alonea> PhinnFort: how do I make it work?
[01:18] <PhinnFort> !ntfs-3g
[01:18] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:18] <sdf_> real player gold 10*
[01:18] <kumamoto> must be tired as hell
[01:18] <sdf_> help
[01:18] <terrestre> i can use my webcam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 eeeeeh
[01:19] <PhinnFort> lpane: do you want me to help you upgrade to edgy?
[01:19] <PhinnFort> manually
[01:19] <sdf_> it s the first time i use kubuntu
[01:19] <kumamoto> terrestre: insmod work for u?
[01:19] <sdf_> help please
[01:19] <Alonea> PhinnFort:  i used these instructions to install it : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[01:19] <Alonea> PhinnFort: I did the auto config..
[01:19] <nonuda> !partition
[01:19] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[01:19] <PhinnFort> Alonea: what command do you use to mount?
[01:20] <terrestre> kumamoto: no, theres no more spca5xx, to the new kernel its call gpsca
[01:20] <PhinnFort> !info realplayer
[01:20] <ubotu> Package realplayer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:20] <Alonea> PhinnFort: what kumamoto said to do.
[01:20] <kumamoto> ah
[01:20] <PhinnFort> !info real-player
[01:20] <ubotu> Package real-player does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[01:20] <PhinnFort> kumamoto: use modprobe rather than insmod, or?
[01:20] <Alonea> PhinnFort:sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/alonea/media
[01:20] <PhinnFort> Alonea: i believe you should replace ntfs with ntfs-3g
[01:20] <sdf_> ubotu:i didn t understand
[01:20] <PhinnFort> Alonea: in that string
[01:20] <kumamoto> PhinnFort: yeah modprobe didn't work at the time so insmod was the next viable
[01:21] <nonuda> PhinnFort: is it safe to change a partition where kubuntu installed in it?
[01:21] <PhinnFort> kumamoto: if modprobe doesn't work, you shouldn't use insmod
[01:21] <kumamoto> modprobe -i <module> right?
[01:21] <PhinnFort> nonuda: ?
[01:21] <PhinnFort> kumamoto: i just modprobe <module>
[01:21] <kumamoto> PhinnFort: why not
[01:21] <Alonea> PhinnFort:  WARNING: Deficient FUSE kernel module detected...
[01:21] <PhinnFort> kumamoto: if it won't modprobe, check dmesg | tail
[01:21] <lpane> PhinnFort: i was looking yous links and goggling around..  i looks like the best thisg for me to do is install the ubuntu-desktop first right?
[01:21] <sdf_> how can i install      real player ???????
[01:21] <PhinnFort> kumamoto: modprobe is safer
[01:22] <PhinnFort> lpane: yes
[01:22] <nonuda> PhinnFort: i want to resize my kubuntu partition
[01:22] <PhinnFort> Alonea: just a warning;)
[01:22] <kumamoto> PhinnFort: ah am kind a go getter
[01:22] <PhinnFort> !realplayer
[01:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:22] <PhinnFort> !realplayer | sdf_
[01:22] <ubotu> sdf_: please see above
[01:22] <PhinnFort> lpane: yes
[01:22] <lpane> PhinnFort: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??
[01:22] <sdf_> real player .bin
[01:23] <kumamoto> sdf_: look for helix
[01:23] <Alonea> PhinnFort: ok, will try to copy files out again. If I dissapear its because linux crashed agian
[01:23] <PhinnFort> lpane:   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard
[01:23] <sdf_> what is helix?/
[01:23] <PhinnFort> Alonea: the normal ntfs driver tends to crash stuff;)
[01:23] <PhinnFort> sdf_: it's the free realplayer
[01:23] <lpane> PhinnFort: hmm..  that looks like its gonna be faster..
[01:23] <kumamoto> what is the difference between this edgy and feisty
[01:23] <PhinnFort> sdf_: don't use it if you don't have to
[01:23] <PhinnFort> lpane: afterwards:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <PhinnFort> !feisty | kumamoto
[01:24] <ubotu> kumamoto: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:24] <lpane> PhinnFort: it looks like its allready installed
[01:24] <PhinnFort> lpane: it should be
[01:24] <lpane> PhinnFort:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:24] <PhinnFort> lpane: we're currently just making sure everything is sane before we upgrade
[01:24] <PhinnFort> lpane: this does some of the hardwork:  sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:24] <nonuda> PhinnFort: guess u can't understand my quuestion.. (bad english)
[01:25] <lpane> PhinnFort: wait: this first? sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <PhinnFort> nonuda: are you running ubuntu from the harddisk
[01:25] <lpane> PhinnFort: cause i did that allready in the past weeks
[01:25] <PhinnFort> lpane: yeah, wait until it's finished
[01:25] <chemicalvamp> wireless insnt sane, neither are alot or wired networks
[01:25] <lpane> PhinnFort: ok.  going for sudo sed -e 's/\sdapper/ edgy/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <PhinnFort> lpane: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list afterwards?
[01:26] <lpane> PhinnFort: AHHH...  i understand what this command is going to o!
[01:26] <terrestre> kumamoto: to me the first difference its, openoffice 2.2 and my webcam not freezing the kernel, im on feisty
[01:26] <PhinnFort> lpane: good;)
[01:26] <lpane> PhinnFort: it replaces dapper by edgy!
[01:26] <PhinnFort> yes;)
[01:26] <nonuda> PhinnFort: i running kubuntu from the hdd, i create 3 partition, 10 gb for winblodze, 5 gb for kubuntu and 5 gb is empty fat32
[01:26] <lpane> PhinnFort: DON
[01:26] <kumamoto> terrestre: model of webcam
[01:27] <lpane> PhinnFort: done
[01:27] <PhinnFort> lpane: can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:27] <zenekk> czesc
[01:27] <zenekk> :)
[01:27] <zenekk> :*
[01:27] <PhinnFort> nonuda: you shouldn't touch the partition you're running ubuntu from
[01:27] <PhinnFort> !cz
[01:27] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[01:28] <lpane> PhinnFort: its pretty large..   won i get banned? waht about the linebreaks?
[01:28] <PhinnFort> !paste | lpane
[01:28] <ubotu> lpane: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:28] <PhinnFort> capisce?
[01:28] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:28] <nonuda> PhinnFort: ahhh...damn, btw why? coz i'm running out space
[01:28] <PhinnFort> nonuda: use the livecd
[01:29] <PhinnFort> nonuda: resize from there
[01:29] <zenekk> helo I'm looking for yung women younger than 20
[01:29] <zenekk> for sexual purposes
[01:29] <PhinnFort> zenekk: me too
[01:29] <zenekk> ad?
[01:29] <lpane> PhinnFort: i did it but th page shows me a dirrctory listing..
[01:29] <zenekk> and*
[01:29] <nonuda> ah i see, but i got no cdrom, maybe i can run from winblodze..
[01:29] <PhinnFort> lpane: use rafb.net/paste then
[01:30] <PhinnFort> my favourite
[01:30] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:30] <PhinnFort> nonuda: you can download the gparted livecd
[01:30] <PhinnFort> very small
[01:30] <zenekk> you better delete kubuntu and install vista
[01:30] <zenekk> its muuch better system
[01:30] <nonuda> PhinnFort: link? please
[01:31] <PhinnFort> http://rafb.net/paste
[01:31] <Alonea> it crashed again PhinnFort
[01:31] <lpane> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/tJqfu278.html
[01:31] <PhinnFort> Alonea: :S
[01:31] <zenekk> vista wouldn't crash
[01:31] <kumamoto> lmao
[01:31] <PhinnFort> zenekk: rotfl
[01:31] <PhinnFort> it did for me
[01:32] <Alonea> PhinnFort: what it does, it starts to copy the file, says "stalled" and then it completely locks up. I am so suprised that magical sys rq doesn't even work
[01:32] <PhinnFort> and then it tried to kill my cat
[01:32] <lpane> PhinnFort: that a very cool service for pasting!
[01:32] <PhinnFort> lpane: i know;)
[01:32] <zenekk> vista pasts much better
[01:32] <Alonea> yup..and vista died on me too. Of course every system I have ever had has died on me.
[01:32] <PhinnFort> zenekk: vista is the reason it's crashing (ntfs)
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Alonea: do you have to use ntfs?
[01:32] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:33] <zenekk> I don't believe it
[01:33] <nonuda> gtg...bye guys
[01:33] <PhinnFort> thanks
[01:33] <specialbuddy> how do I upgrade to feisty?
[01:33] <PhinnFort> specialbuddy: see the topic
[01:33] <nalioth> !upgrade | specialbuddy
[01:33] <ubotu> specialbuddy: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:33] <PhinnFort> specialbuddy: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[01:33] <Alonea> PhinnFort: well, the drive is my borked windows system...its media center (xp pro) and it randomly died...
[01:34] <Alonea> PhinnFort: I am suspecting the drive is dead, or half dead anyways.
[01:34] <PhinnFort> Alonea: could be the partition is dead
[01:34] <kumamoto> Alonea: how important is this file
[01:34] <PhinnFort> Alonea: can you paste dmesg?
[01:34] <PhinnFort> maybe the kernel is screaming in pain
[01:34] <Alonea> PhinnFort: it was saying on startup earlier some buffer i/o errors
[01:34] <PhinnFort> Alonea: dying disk, then probably
[01:35] <lpane> PhinnFort: did u get my sources.list?
[01:35] <kumamoto> yup dead disk
[01:35] <PhinnFort> Alonea: if there's a file that you need, though, there's some file rescuing tools available
[01:35] <PhinnFort> lpane: i give it a clean bill of health
[01:35] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:35] <PhinnFort> lpane: continue
[01:35] <PhinnFort> lpane:   sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:35] <Alonea> PhinnFort: ok. thats nice. do they involve putting my hd elsewhere? because its not possible...laptop.
[01:35] <PhinnFort> Alonea: i don't know if those tools work with NTFS, though
[01:36] <PhinnFort> Alonea: they run from livecd's
[01:36] <Alonea> PhinnFort: ah. ok. well, I can hope.
[01:36] <Alonea> PhinnFort: I also have a thumbdrive if that helps any
[01:37] <lpane> PhinnFort: hehe ok.  that other command is going to do the upgrade?
[01:37] <PhinnFort> lpane: that last command is doing the actualy upgrade
[01:37] <lpane> PhinnFort: I read that using apt-get to upgrade is not recommended. is that command the same of apt-get?
[01:38] <PhinnFort> lpane: it is not recommended, but it's the only way afaik in Kubuntu
[01:38] <lpane> PhinnFort: is aptidute == apt-get ?
[01:38] <PhinnFort> lpane: and with me you are safe
[01:38] <PhinnFort> lpane: almost
[01:38] <PhinnFort> lpane: the Debian people (who made both) recommends aptitude over apt-get
[01:38] <lpane> PhinnFort: ... ok  then.. lets go..
[01:39] <PhinnFort> Alonea: if everything is lost, you could buy the recovery tool from grc.com
[01:39] <PhinnFort> it does wonders, afaik
[01:39] <PhinnFort> spinrite
[01:39] <truent> hmm.. firefox.. xchat.. nothing works in kubuntu.. but gnome is fine..
[01:40] <truent> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14485/    for error message
[01:40] <PhinnFort> truent: use Konqueror and Konversation;)
[01:40] <lpane> PhinnFort: its  working...  if i have any problem i'll scream for u..
[01:40] <levent> Hey guys
[01:40] <truent> hah
[01:40] <PhinnFort> truent: that's not error messages
[01:40] <PhinnFort> lpane: i'll probably go to bed soon
[01:40] <PhinnFort> lpane: but feel free to /msg PhinnFort <message>
[01:40] <Levo_75> Again hey guys
[01:40] <PhinnFort> i'll see them in the morning
[01:41] <PhinnFort> !hi | Levo_75
[01:41] <ubotu> Levo_75: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:41] <lpane> PhinnFort:  Leave the following dependencies unresolved: libnotify1 recommends notification-daemon Score is -1221
[01:41] <Alonea> PhinnFort: is there anything free I could use? of the file that I need, I think I have an older copy, though it will take me a couple days to get back to where it was....
[01:41] <Cosmo_>  is there a way that you can set up a shortcut or something that will run terminal commands (for example running terminal commands to run WoW with wine)? I'm fairly new to linux/kubuntu so not sure if this can be done.
[01:41] <truent> thats what come sup when i try to run anything not kde.. or something like that.. infact that error message is from trying to run kate
[01:41] <Levo_75> Adept isn't starting for me
[01:41] <Levo_75> :(
[01:41] <PhinnFort> Alonea: i'm trying to remember the name...
[01:41] <PhinnFort> Alonea: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[01:41] <lpane> PhinnFort: were r u from?
[01:41] <PhinnFort> lpane: norway
[01:42] <truent> how do i get rid of everything kde and reinstall? i tried kubuntu-desktop.. but it doesnt uninstall everything kde related by any means
[01:42] <artabrahao> how change dns server in console?
[01:42] <PhinnFort> you?
[01:42] <Levo_75> #  (Windows 95 and later)
[01:42] <Levo_75> # Microsoft Windows: 3.62 (Windows 3.x)
[01:42] <PhinnFort> artabrahao: nano /etc/resolv.conf
[01:42] <lpane> PhinnFort: ow.. hehe thats far..   got my last mesg:  Leave the following dependencies unresolved: libnotify1 recommends notification-daemon Score is -1221
[01:42] <lpane> PhinnFort: Brasil
[01:42] <Levo_75> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:42] <Levo_75> Wtf?
[01:42] <Alonea> PhinnFort: yup..I still have the older file on my linux..thank kami I didn't delete it after I copied it all over to windows..
[01:42] <PhinnFort> lpane: :D
[01:42] <Alonea> PhinnFort: Is there a way I can tell for sure its dead?
[01:42] <PhinnFort> lpane: can you paste the whole output?
[01:42] <PhinnFort> Alonea: http://servers.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1558230&from=rss
[01:43] <PhinnFort> Alonea: beats me...
[01:43] <PhinnFort> Alonea: could try mounting it from a livecd that knows ntfs well
[01:43] <pollyo> Anyone know if there is a difference between serial ata-300 or sata-300 when they advertise hard drives?
[01:43] <PhinnFort> Alonea: what format is the file?
[01:43] <pollyo> Do they have a hardware chat on irc?
[01:43] <Levo_75> serial ata is sata...
[01:43] <PhinnFort> try #hardware
[01:43] <PhinnFort> pollyo: sata is another interface
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[01:44] <PhinnFort> cables and stuff
[01:44] <pollyo> Levo_75: Ok.  So they just advertise them differently
[01:44] <PhinnFort> artabrahao: try running "sudo nano ..."
[01:44] <Levo_75> Jep
[01:44] <pollyo> PhinnFort: sata is different from serial ata?
[01:44] <PhinnFort> no
[01:44] <PhinnFort> Alonea: PhotoRec, from that same page as I posted, can recover word docs
[01:44] <Levo_75> Sata is short for serial ata
[01:44] <Levo_75> Amirite?
[01:44] <pollyo> PhinnFort: Ok.  I do have a sata in my dell.
[01:45] <lpane> PhinnFort: Leave the following dependencies unresolved: <br>libnotify1 recommends notification-daemon <br>Score is -1221 <br> Accept this solution?
[01:45] <don_jr__> kumamoto you still there?
[01:45] <PhinnFort> lpane: but the whole output, from prompt to prompt
[01:45] <PhinnFort> into the pastebin
[01:45] <PhinnFort> Alonea: all supported formats: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/File_Formats_Recovered_By_PhotoRec
[01:45] <Alonea> PhinnFort: its not a word..its a game save..^^;;; many many hours spent on the thing. there is also a couple program files, but if I have to, I can redownload them
[01:45] <PhinnFort> heh
[01:45] <Alonea> PhinnFort: Oblivion is my crack...
[01:46] <PhinnFort> that might be a tough one
[01:46] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:46] <Alonea> that test disk looks like it might work...
[01:46] <PhinnFort> Alonea: you could maybe try a bart pe
[01:46] <PhinnFort> or whatever they call them
[01:46] <PhinnFort> Alonea: http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[01:46] <don_jr__> I have installed the nvidia drivers for my card and have tried to reconfigure-xserver, that hasn't fixed it yet.  the install said soemthing about altering xorg.conf manually, can anyone help me with this?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> don_jr__: tried envy?
[01:47] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, try running nvidia-xconfig
[01:48] <don_jr__> I was told envy a)wont' work well with edgy and b)screws stuff up...at this point I'll do almost anything just to get my darn computer to startx! lol
[01:48] <PhinnFort> don_jr__: do as the hitman told you
[01:48] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:48] <lpane> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/9Pj64411.html
[01:48] <PhinnFort> thanks
[01:48] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly nvidis-xconfig: command not found
[01:48] <wolferine> will google earth work in *buntu?
[01:48] <lpane> PhinnFort: it's giant
[01:48] <don_jr__> nvidia-config I typed it right on the command box! lol
[01:49] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, how did you install the drivers?
[01:49] <don_jr__> used an install from teh invidia site
[01:49] <PhinnFort> lpane: something is wrong
[01:49] <lpane> PhinnFort: :-(
[01:49] <lpane> PhinnFort: waht?
[01:49] <don_jr__> it told me something about altering the xorg.conf file manually when I was done, but it didin't say what to alter it too
[01:49] <PhinnFort> lpane: but go ahead
[01:50] <PhinnFort> lpane: afterwards, install kubuntu-desktop again
[01:50] <lpane> PhinnFort: I answer Y then?
[01:50] <PhinnFort> lpane: yes
[01:50] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, the nvidia site should have the nvidia-xconfig util for download
[01:50] <PhinnFort> aptitude should thread nicely and don't break anything
[01:50] <Levo_75> Guys i broke adept
[01:50] <Levo_75> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:50] <Levo_75> It sais this
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, actually, i reccomend apt-get nvidia-glx, works better w/ buntu
[01:51] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: have you tried "apt-get update"?
[01:51] <Levo_75> Where?
[01:51] <don_jr__> I'll try that
[01:51] <Levo_75> I typed it in console
[01:51] <hitmanWilly> same drivers, different packaging
[01:51] <Levo_75> *konsole
[01:51] <Levo_75> I use kubuntu dapper drake
[01:52] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: what happened?
[01:52] <Levo_75> I dunno
[01:52] <Levo_75> I added a repository
[01:52] <Levo_75> Then i clicked update
[01:52] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: type it in a konsole
[01:52] <Levo_75> Some random stuff happened
[01:52] <PhinnFort> and try opening it again
[01:52] <Levo_75> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[01:53] <Levo_75> Same shit comes up
[01:53] <Levo_75> :'(
[01:53] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:53] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly I have the nvidia-glx now what's next?
[01:53] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: remove that darn repo, and apt-get update again
[01:53] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:53] <lpane> PhinnFort: it going to download 495MB..
[01:53] <Levo_75> Where do i type this?
[01:53] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, run nvidia-xconfig
[01:53] <PhinnFort> lpane: fun...;)
[01:53] <lpane> PhinnFort: lets exercise patioence
[01:53] <Levo_75> In konsole?
[01:53] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: in a console
[01:54] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, it should have come with the package
[01:54] <Levo_75> Systeem>konsole?
[01:54] <Tm_T> PhinnFort: hm?
 thanks
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: yes
[01:54] <Alonea> PhinnFort: ok, test disk is working its magic...waiting to see if it copies..and dear gods it said all this stuff was wrong with that drive.
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: ?
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Alonea: doesn't sound too good
[01:54] <Levo_75> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[01:54] <Levo_75>   Major opcode:  144
[01:54] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: ignore it
[01:54] <Levo_75>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:54] <Levo_75>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:55] <Levo_75> Failed to open device
[01:55] <Levo_75> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[01:55] <Alonea> PhinnFort: nope, but it is currently copying those files.
[01:55] <Levo_75>   Major opcode:  144
[01:55] <Levo_75>   Minor opcode:  3
[01:55] <jhutchins> Levo_75: That't the support for the Wacom tablets (what, doesn't everybody have one?).
[01:55] <Levo_75>   Resource id:  0x0
[01:55] <Levo_75> Failed to open device
[01:55] <Levo_75> It said this
[01:55] <Levo_75> ok
[01:55] <Levo_75> Now apt-get update
[01:55] <Tm_T> Levo_75: stop flooding
[01:55] <Tm_T> PhinnFort: nothing anymore :)
[01:55] <jhutchins> Levo_75: Those errors are from something your computer doesn't have.
[01:55] <Alonea> PhinnFort: and if it does that, I will be a happy camper and windows can rot.
[01:55] <don_jr__> that dind't help, same errors, no devices detected
[01:55] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:55] <Levo_75> E: Misvormde regel 1 in bronlijst /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[01:55] <Levo_75> Sorry for the flood :(
[01:55] <Tm_T> !paste | Levo_75
[01:55] <ubotu> Levo_75: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:56] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:57] <Levo_75> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list~: Permission denied
[01:57] <Levo_75> ?
[01:57] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: run kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:57] <PhinnFort> copy the content into a pastebin
[01:57] <PhinnFort> like rafb.net/paste
[01:57] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, can you pastebin your xorg.conf file?
[01:58] <lpane> PhinnFort: is this upgrade downloading every program that i have installed now for the new upgraded version?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> lpane: that's the point, yes
[01:58] <tulio__> what is a good pdf viewer?
[01:58] <sdf_> any one see high tension film?????????/
[01:58] <Levo_75> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14487/
[01:58] <don_jr__> nope, would have to type it in manually...can't get to the web page to paste it from the desktop, X won't start at all have to do it all from console
[01:59] <Tm_T> sdf_: one guestionmark should be enough
[01:59] <jhutchins> tulio__: I like xpdf better than kpdf
[01:59] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: nonono;) copy from the text editor window that opens
[01:59] <Levo_75> That never happened
[01:59] <blanky> my kate used to automatically upload changes to remote files when I CTRL+S'd, it doesn't anymore, anyone know why or how to solve this?
[01:59] <tulio__> jhutchins: have you tried gpdf?
[02:00] <PhinnFort> okular owns
[02:00] <jhutchins> don_jr__: lynx - text-based browser.
[02:00] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, ok open it up and look for a line like Driver "nv" or "nvidia"
[02:00] <don_jr__> driver says nvidia, I'm looking at it now
[02:01] <lpane> PhinnFort: ok..  another question: can i use aptitude over apt-get allways? when i see a how-to telling apt-get I just replace it for aptitude?
[02:01] <PhinnFort> lpane: yes
[02:01] <sdf_> tmt t:what do you mean??
[02:01] <PhinnFort> lpane: in fact, the Debian people say you *should*
[02:01] <lpane> PhinnFort: very good to know. thanks
[02:01] <PhinnFort> yw;)
[02:01] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, ok, thats right
[02:01] <lpane> PhinnFort: I will
[02:01] <Levo_75> I fail at linux :(
[02:02] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: didn't a text editor window pop up?
[02:02] <Levo_75> No
[02:02] <don_jr__> when I try to startx I get (EE) No devices detected.
[02:02] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: sure?
[02:02] <Levo_75> Should i reinstall?
[02:02] <Levo_75> PhinnFort i'm really really sure
[02:03] <bigdad1e> hey how do i sync my tmobile mda with kpilot or kandy?
[02:03] <sdf_> how can i resize the desktop   ?????/
[02:03] <PhinnFort> Levo_75: just replace your sources.list
[02:03] <PhinnFort> !sources.list
[02:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:03] <sdf_> as winxp
[02:03] <hitmanWilly> ok, i remember i had this problem once, lemme think
[02:03] <PhinnFort> !source-o-matic
[02:03] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:03] <jhutchins> !easusources
[02:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easusources - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:03] <sdf_> from properties and setting
[02:03] <Tm_T> sdf_: I still wonder why you need to write multiple questionmarks
[02:03] <jhutchins> n'mind
[02:04] <sdf_> are you annoy from me?????????
[02:04] <bigdad1e> jhutchins: do you know how to sync phones?
[02:04] <Tm_T> sdf_: yes, I'm very annoyed
[02:05] <sdf_> sorry
[02:05] <Ubuntulator> morning all
[02:05] <Tm_T> sdf_: no problemo, just keep it nice and clean ;)
[02:05] <Ubuntulator> happy choc fest and all that
[02:05] <bigdad1e> does anyone know how to sync my tmobile mda?
[02:05] <sdf_> ok
[02:06] <Tm_T> or whatever
[02:06] <sdf_> i m very happy because you forgive me
[02:06] <sdf_> thank you
[02:06] <PhinnFort> grumpy
[02:06] <bigdad1e> does anyone know how to sync my tmobile mda?
[02:06] <Tm_T> PhinnFort: thanks
[02:06] <artabrahao> how is possible do not log in kde and go to console?
[02:06] <PhinnFort> :D
[02:06] <jhutchins> sdf_: Your latitude is approximately 30.05, your longitude 31.25
[02:06] <PhinnFort> bigdad1e: maybe with KPilot?
[02:06] <Tm_T> bigdad1e: repeating isn't helping you ;)
[02:07] <bigdad1e> i know
[02:07] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: Nope, sorry.
[02:07] <bigdad1e> kpilot cant find it
[02:07] <Ubuntulator> anyone know of a good gui for samba that covers both the server and client
[02:07] <sdf_> i don t understand
[02:07] <PhinnFort> !info kpilot
[02:07] <ubotu> kpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1887 kB, installed size 4348 kB
[02:07] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: First you need to know what the hardware is - tmobile is the carrier, means nothing.
[02:07] <bigdad1e> thats just for palm pilots
[02:08] <PhinnFort> not just
[02:08] <PhinnFort> for pdas, i think
[02:08] <PhinnFort> !info kitchensync
[02:08] <ubotu> kitchensync: Synchronization framework. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 799 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[02:08] <bigdad1e> i have windows 2.0.3.5 something close to that
[02:08] <jhutchins> bigdad1e: then Alt-F2, gg: <hardware> sync kontact
[02:09] <jhutchins> sdf_: We know.
[02:09] <bigdad1e> now what?
[02:10] <sdf_> i don t know
[02:10] <sdf_> be clear
[02:10] <stefan__> maybe try this for syncing: http://www.sjoerdmulder.nl/wordpress/?p=4
[02:10] <PF-Away> lpane: i'm going to sleep now
[02:11] <stefan__> its imo the easiest way to sync windows mobile devices with ubuntu
[02:17] <eilker> i need vulnerability scanner...i didnt like nessus, do i have more options ?
[02:17] <sdlnxgk> PF-Away, thanks for the help with the fonts that bug fix site did the trick !!!
[02:17] <jhutchins> eilker: nmap
[02:18] <jhutchins> eilker: saint
[02:18] <eilker> jhutchins: nmap is so base, what i need it , give the url, and software will check , do u understand me ?
[02:19] <jhutchins> eilker: http://sectools.org/web-scanners.html
[02:19] <eilker> jhutchins: thanx
[02:19] <eilker> !nikto
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nikto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <specialbuddy> why won't apt upgrade to feisty?
[02:20] <chemicalvamp> sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg-core.. is not correct.. how do you reinstall or re-configure rather)
[02:21] <lpane> PF-Away: ok. thaks!
[02:21] <jhutchins> !fixres | chemicalvamp
[02:21] <ubotu> chemicalvamp: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> chemicalvamp: dpkg-reconfigure -p high xserver-xorg
[02:22] <LeeJunFan> chemicalvamp: sudo ...
[02:22] <chemicalvamp> tyvm, i'll try it
[02:22] <jhutchins> specialbuddy: It will, but it would be better to test the upgrade tool, as it does a better job of replacing old systems with new.
[02:23] <eilker> !SEO > eilker
[02:23] <jhutchins> specialbuddy: dist-upgrade will mostly just try to replace existing packages with new versions.  If there's been a change in what packages handle a certain task, it's harder for apt to handle the switch.
[02:23] <eilker> !Seo > eilker
[02:23] <eilker> !seo > eilker
[02:24] <jhutchins> eilker: try /msg ubotu find seo
[02:24] <jhutchins> eilker: or info seo
[02:24] <terrestre> info seo
[02:24] <terrestre> !info seo
[02:24] <ubotu> Package seo does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[02:25] <jhutchins> Sometimes it helps to !find first.
[02:25] <terrestre> !find me
[02:25] <ubotu> Found: abiword-gnome, abiword-plugins-gnome, alacarte, bluez-passkey-gnome, comerr-dev (and 1394 others)
[02:25] <jhutchins> !info nikto | eilker
[02:25] <ubotu> eilker: nikto: web server security scanner. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.35-1 (edgy), package size 165 kB, installed size 868 kB
[02:26] <eilker> thank you
[02:27] <wubrgamer> .
[02:27] <terrestre> ubuntu bip bip
[02:27] <terrestre> kubuntu bip bip
[02:27] <specialbuddy> jhutchins, so what should I do?
[02:28] <qbert> how can i get programs executed on start up ?
[02:28] <jhutchins> specialbuddy: Check out https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[02:29] <specialbuddy> that's what I'm doing right now
[02:29] <jhutchins> specialbuddy: Is it not working?
[02:29] <specialbuddy> I haven't had anything come up yet
[02:31] <jhutchins> specialbuddy: That's why they call it Beta Testing.
[02:31] <qbert> how come my /etc/profile isnt getting read on startup ?
[02:31] <jhutchins> specialbuddy: There's a link on the page to report problems, and you can ask about it in #ubuntu+1.
[02:31] <specialbuddy> It says, "After updating the archive it should offer to upgrade kubuntu
[02:32] <ajmorris_> i can't run kxdocker : DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-10447' to 'kxdocker'
[02:32] <ajmorris_> ERROR: Communication problem with kxdocker, it probably crashed.
[02:32] <ajmorris_> any ideas?
[02:32] <jhutchins> specialbuddy: Don't tell me, tell someone in the feisty support channel.
[02:32] <specialbuddy> ok
[02:36] <ajmorris_> is there a way to add kxdocker to dcop?
[02:36] <eilker> !ldap
[02:36] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[02:36] <eilker> !nis
[02:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <adabec> exit
[02:40] <adabec> leaving
[02:43] <kristjan_> is where a way to install kubuntu feisty without burning iso?
[02:45] <Shiggs> hi all
[02:45] <Shiggs> I have a question
[02:45] <Shiggs> is anyone awake?
[02:46] <Shiggs> bill_k: can you help me?
[02:46] <Shiggs> nightsky: you too
[02:47] <lpane> Shiggs: hi
[02:47] <Shiggs> yo
[02:47] <TERRESEIRJEIRJE> !es
[02:47] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:47] <Shiggs> ok so my question is: how do I set ny kubuntu system when running under console login to an internet time server?
[02:47] <nightsky> we can always try... what is your major malfunction
[02:47] <Shiggs> my*
[02:48] <Shiggs> I'm running a p2p server and it has time stamps, but they're wrong
[02:48] <lpane> Shiggs: sorry..  dont know
[02:48] <Shiggs> NS?
[02:48] <Shiggs> kk lol
[02:49] <Ubuntulator> anyone know of a good gui for samba that covers both the server and client
[02:50] <Ubuntulator> ?
[02:50] <artabrahao> how is possible do not log in kde and go to console?
[02:50] <nightsky> lets see
[02:50] <nightsky> Shiggs this may help: http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/316
[02:50] <bill_k> Shiggs: are you using network time?  right time zone set up?
[02:50] <Shiggs> how would I check that?
[02:50] <nightsky> arta, ctrl+alt+f1
[02:50] <Shiggs> it's a p2 233 lol
[02:50] <nightsky> so you have no gui installed
[02:51] <Shiggs> I have it installed actually
[02:51] <nightsky> the commands listed on that page are:
[02:51] <Shiggs> but it runs slow and it seems to freeze up when I have Z running
[02:51] <Shiggs> X*
[02:51] <bill_k> you may want to try xubuntu
[02:51] <nightsky> "/usr/bin/rdate -s time.nist.gov"
[02:51] <nightsky> "/sbin/hwclock --systohc"
[02:51] <Shiggs> ahhh awesome
[02:51] <Shiggs> thanks
[02:52] <chemicalvamp> where are amule downloaded files located/
[02:52] <lpane> !xubuntu
[02:52] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[02:53] <nightsky> hope it helps
[02:53] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: You got feisty workin?
[02:54] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: or did I get you mixed up with someone else?
[02:54] <tulio__> chemicalvamp: i think its <YOUR_HOME>/.aMule
[02:54] <artabrahao> When the server start it goes directly to the kde, and I dont want to log and go to console, how is it possible?
[02:55] <Underruner> how about finding what kernal version a person has
[02:55] <don_jr__> Can anoyone explain to me how to get envy downloaded and installed through console only?
[02:55] <nightsky> when you start kubuntu you should see your login screen, at that point press ctrl+alt+f1 thru f6 to get a non-gui login
[02:56] <bill_k> Underruner: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/01/27/how-to-find-your-ubuntu-or-kernel-version/
[02:56] <Underruner> thx
[02:56] <bill_k> yup
[02:57] <emoXcore> windos xp is good
[02:57] <emoXcore> ...
[02:58] <[RIP] d3jake> Can I assume that somebody here can help me installing Wine?
[02:58] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, wget http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.1-0ubuntu4_all.deb
[02:58] <wolferine> [RIP] d3jak install it?
[02:58] <wolferine> or use it
[02:58] <[RIP] d3jake> install
[02:58] <don_jr__> thankyou hitmanWilly
[02:58] <specialbuddy> why am I having so much trouble getting the upgrade to work?
[02:58] <icecruncher> happy easter to all
[02:59] <[RIP] d3jake> and maybe use depending upon if I can get it working myself
[02:59] <AmyRose> [RIP] d3jake: http://winehq.com/site/download-deb
[02:59] <wolferine> sudo apt-get install wine
[02:59] <[RIP] d3jake> tried that
[02:59] <Hirvinen> !wine
[02:59] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:59] <wolferine> well, there are two answers there
[02:59] <[RIP] d3jake> I get a cannot find package, but is refered to by other packages error
[02:59] <wolferine> you have to add SOS into your sites
[02:59] <[RIP] d3jake> when I try the sudo apt-get
[03:00] <[RIP] d3jake> what sites?
[03:00] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly and what's the command to run the .deb file?
 thanks, it works with control alt f1
[03:00] <[RIP] d3jake> I had this working before, but I lost the page that told me how to get the sudo apt-get working
[03:00] <[RIP] d3jake> but then i had to wipe my Liunx install
[03:00] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, sudo dpkg -i <name of .deb file>
[03:01] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly thank you very much, you are a life saver today!
[03:01] <nightsky> [RIP]  if you are using synaptic you can simply update your repositories list
[03:01] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, your X still down?
[03:01] <[RIP] d3jake> okay, that makes sense to me, how?
[03:01] <nightsky> wine is not an "official" ubuntu pkg ... its "community maintained"
[03:02] <nightsky> run synaptic, click "settings" menu then "repositories"
[03:02] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly I had X running with ubuntu, I did a manual apt-get upgrade to edgy...bad idea, through all of this I ended up screwing up my xserver more than I thought I could without messing with teh acctuall code it's self! lmao  So I'm reinstalling ubuntu where I know envy makes it work properly and I'll download kubuntu edgy and burn it and install it properly!
[03:02] <[RIP] d3jake> synaptic, from where? the menu in the lower left?
[03:02] <pollyo> Anyone have suggestions as to how I could setup a drive to share data between a dual boot system.  I was thinking of partitioning my first hard drive for windows and linux and then having a second drive to store data files on for both OSes.
[03:02] <don_jr__> wish there was a way to make the ubuntu alternate CD install kubuntu.....but I havn't seen a way to do it
[03:03] <nightsky> [RIP]  yes click your K menu and synaptic should be under "system"
[03:03] <emoXcore> windos xp yeaaa
[03:03] <emoXcore>  ajuuuaaa
[03:03] <emoXcore>  xD
[03:03] <pollyo> Would I be better off setting up another machine as a file server?
[03:03] <tulio_> how do i uninstall older kernels?
[03:03] <don_jr__> pllyo I"m not sure how, but I know you can mount the windows directory and access the files that way!
[03:03] <[RIP] d3jake> think I found it...
[03:04] <icecruncher> how do you find out which version of kubuntu your running?
[03:04] <tulio_> someone please ping tulio__
[03:04] <pollyo> don_jr__: I guess I could format it ntfs and use ntfs-3g to mount the drive under linux.
[03:04] <[RIP] d3jake> is it the "Adept Manager?
[03:05] <nightsky> [RIP]  you may use Adept yes it is an alternative to synaptic
[03:05] <don_jr__> yes, if you have windows on the HD, and install linux after words and split the HD down the middle, you can then later mount the windows side to swap files between the two, but windows, that I know of, will not recognize the linux side at all
[03:05] <[RIP] d3jake> I didn't see one that said synaptic
[03:05] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, why not just change "nvidia" back to "nv" long enough to download and burn the new ISO?
[03:05] <nightsky> synaptic is only installed with gnome...sorry
[03:05] <[RIP] d3jake> np
[03:06] <[RIP] d3jake> so, "Fetch Updates"
[03:06] <nightsky> [rip]  in adept, click adept menu then manage repositories
[03:06] <nightsky> not yet
[03:06] <[RIP] d3jake> k
[03:06] <Cosmo_> you can install it in kde
[03:06] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly I"m going to try it that way first, but if the NV doens't let me load X then I want to be prepared to install nvidia drivers to get it done
[03:06] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, kewl. got it
[03:07] <don_jr__> just plannin ahead
[03:07] <nightsky> all the repositores that say "universe" you should right click then enable
[03:07] <don_jr__> I want kubuntu so bad, gnome just annoys me
[03:07] <artabrahao> where I need to make changes to do not load kde on startup?
[03:07] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, id suggest uninstalling then reinstalling from scratch if you do go that route
[03:07] <don_jr__> and I think I may have just 1 more blank CD to burn! lol
[03:07] <pollyo> don_jr__: I actually like the look of the gnome under ubuntu
[03:07] <hitmanWilly> envy supposedly lets you do that
[03:08] <[RIP] d3jake> nightsky: where will it say "universe"?
[03:08] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly I will do that, I'll totally wipe the HD when I install kubuntu 6.10
[03:08] <hitmanWilly> :)
[03:08] <don_jr__> then I'll go from there and hopefully not have to use envy
[03:08] <nightsky> [rip]  when you click manage repositories "universe" will be found in the righthand column under "components"
[03:08] <[RIP] d3jake> k
[03:09] <don_jr__> pollyo I guess I've lived in a winblows world for too long, it bugs me that the 'start' button is in the top left corner instead of the bottom....lmao, and I"m a mudder and the good mud clients that are graphical that I"ve found are for KDE not gnome
[03:09] <[RIP] d3jake> nightsky: done
[03:09] <pollyo> don_jr__: That can be changed if I recall correctly.
[03:09] <pollyo> don_jr__: You do not have to keep it at the top of the screen.
[03:09] <nightsky> [rip]  click apply, then close
[03:09] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, if you want, feisty's pretty stable, you could install that since you're upgrading anyway
[03:09] <nightsky> then click fetch updates
[03:10] <[RIP] d3jake> nightsky: done
[03:10] <[RIP] d3jake> k
[03:10] <don_jr__> pollyo maybe but I installed KDE on my laptop here that I've had for over a year and I'm use to it and likeit.
[03:10] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly you say 'pretty stable' I'm a newb to linux, not sure if that's stable enough for me! lmao
[03:10] <nightsky> search "wine"
[03:10] <[RIP] d3jake> its still updating
[03:10] <nightsky> no prob
[03:10] <pollyo> don_jr__: I have kde and gnome on mine.  I use kde for the most part.  I did put the ubuntu with gnome on my uncles though.
[03:11] <[RIP] d3jake> my connect isn't very fast ;)
[03:11] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, thats in linux terms, compared to windows, its more stable than 2000, as a beta
[03:11] <don_jr__> pollyo I just don't want them both on cuase it takes up space
[03:12] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly so it's stable enough for normal use that it won't goof or boink on me for surfing the web or trying to run wine?
[03:12] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, ive had about 2 weeks continuous uptime
[03:12] <pollyo> don_jr__: I'm running feisty and have wine installed.
[03:12] <specialbuddy> should I just wait until fiesty is released?
[03:12] <[RIP] d3jake> nightshy: searched, so when I see "wine", what do I do?
[03:12] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly and can you help me get nvidia drivers running on fiesty?
[03:12] <nightsky> clik the > next to the word wine
[03:12] <[RIP] d3jake> k
[03:12] <nightsky> then click 'request install'
[03:12] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, its easy if you use apt to get them
[03:12] <don_jr__> pollyo I can't get wine to run on this box, it claims there's dependencie errors
[03:13] <Shiggs> hmm
[03:13] <Shiggs> I don't have "rdate"
[03:13] <excitatory> specialbuddy: feisty is already significantly better than edgy
[03:13] <[RIP] d3jake> nightsky: clicked
[03:13] <nightsky> finally click the apply changes button at the top
[03:13] <specialbuddy> well why am I having such a hard time upgrading to it
[03:13] <[RIP] d3jake> downloading
[03:13] <Shiggs> the hwclock worked, but I dunno if it synced with anything
[03:14] <Shiggs> nightsky: anything else?
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> plus edgy's not an LTS version, so support will probably vanish once production feisty hits
[03:14] <martalli> When adept is telling me a version upgrade is available, would an "apt-get dist-upgrade" be the CLI equivalent?
[03:14] <nightsky> shiggs: bugger... no i dont :/
[03:14] <hitmanWilly> or at least start to fade
[03:14] <Shiggs> damn
[03:14] <Shiggs> ok
[03:14] <Shiggs> thanks anyway
[03:14] <nightsky> u tried the time cmd im sure
[03:15] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly I'll get fiesty then, but I'll need help with the nvidia drivers, how long wil lyou be around tonight, my install here is almost done, won't take but an hour to download and maybe an hour to burn then I'll be installing
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> ill be here for another couple hours probably
[03:16] <terrestre> don_jr__: i just find a icon to activated wine in the system admnistrator of fesity
[03:16] <terrestre> feisty
[03:16] <don_jr__> okay, I hope to get it done whiel you're still here! =)
[03:16] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, it really is easy, two steps
[03:17] <don_jr__> terrestre I have that same icon, but when I load the .exe program I want it to run, it does absolutly nothing
[03:17] <terrestre> but the icon its for install
[03:17] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly shoot em at me, I'll write themdown incase your not here, but I hope they are console friendly! lol
[03:17] <terrestre> at least that says to me
[03:17] <don_jr__> terrestre the icon is to install wine?? wow, that'll be really nice and easy then
[03:18] <[RIP] d3jake> nightsky: its installed, now I"ll try to run something under it...
[03:18] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, 1) sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:18] <nightsky> cool
[03:18] <[RIP] d3jake> instead of asking how I"ll find a FAW :)
[03:18] <nightsky> usage is usually $ wine someprogram.exe
[03:18] <[RIP] d3jake> FAQ*
[03:19] <[RIP] d3jake> O.o
[03:19] <terrestre> don_jr__: plus, actually the flash plugint, the jave, autoinstall just sorfing the web, and the multimiedia packages its available onde the add/remove program item
[03:19] <nightsky> use winecfg to configure wine
[03:19] <nightsky> and i'm spent
[03:19] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, 2) nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[03:19] <[RIP] d3jake> I really need to learn how to use the command line better
[03:19] <don_jr__> terrestre that's great, I'm going to get fiesty made up my mind about that, if for no other reason than to keep ubuntu support in general
[03:20] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, that's it
[03:20] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly thanks alot, hopefully that clears up my problem......my installation is at 'cleaning up..." and is stalled at 97% that is really annoying
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, or just follow this link from ubotu
[03:21] <pollyo> don_jr__: Do you know what dependencies you are having trouble with as far as wine is concerned?
[03:21] <hitmanWilly> !ati | don_jr__
[03:21] <ubotu> don_jr__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:21] <ccoffey> i'm trying to swap a hard drive, so i need to copy all the contents off it, mbr and all, to a different drive. i assume i need something like ghost, what's a good free version, or is dd still the way?
[03:21] <pollyo> don_jr__: Oh... Are you upgrading to feisty now?
[03:22] <don_jr__> pollyo yes, it's kind of crazy, it gives me a list of drivers that I need, then when I look at them, I see that I have the versions it looks for
[03:22] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly thank you very much for all the help
[03:22] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, np
[03:22] <don_jr__> pollyo I"m not upgrading just yet, i have to get ubuntu installed and then download fiesty and burn in
[03:23] <don_jr__> when I try to install wine from adept it tells me there's an error it may not have downloaded the packages right or it may break some packages
[03:24] <pollyo> don_jr__: Are you going to wipe out your old setup?
[03:24] <makuseru> is there any application i can add to my system bar thing to show processor usage?
[03:24] <don_jr__> pollyo yes, I"m only installing ubuntu so that I can download and burn fiesty kubuntu then it will be obsolete and gone
[03:24] <hitmanWilly> makuseru, its not in the systembar, but try conky
[03:24] <ccoffey> makuseru: There's a few decent superkaramba themes that do it
[03:25] <pollyo> don_jr__: I was going to ask why not just download the feisty rc5 (or whatever version they are at now)
[03:25] <don_jr__> makuseru did you get your laptop up and running now?
[03:25] <makuseru> yes i did
[03:25] <makuseru> ever get kubuntu"?
[03:25] <[RIP] d3jake> heh, just saw a mouse in my basement....
[03:25] <don_jr__> Durring the install it askes to earase entire disk: or erase entire disk and use LVM, what's the difference??
[03:26] <don_jr__> pollyo my desktop(that I want kubuntu fiesty on) has no OS on it as ofright now.
[03:27] <ccoffey> don_jr__: are you using one disk?
[03:27] <don_jr__> makuseru I'm working on it, I screwed up my xserver really bad when I tried a manual upgrade to edgy, so I"m reinstalling ubuntu now so I can download kubuntu fiesty
[03:27] <don_jr__> ccoffey yes only 1 HD
[03:27] <ccoffey> don_jr__: I wouldn't use LVM then
[03:28] <don_jr__> ccoffey okay, thank you, wasn't sure what it was or meant, I'll give that a shot
[03:28] <don_jr__> ccoffey cna you tell me what the technical difference is between the two? what is LVM exactly?
[03:29] <ccoffey> don_jr__: logical volume managment. i know if you use it on your / partition, you'll have a hell of a time doing and recovery if it goes askew. i'm not sure exactly what it's for but i have an idea, i'll check first before i tell ya
[03:29] <don_jr__> pollyo would you like to see the dependencies list it gives me when I try to install wine?
[03:30] <pollyo> don_jr__: If you are just going to trash the system and do a fresh install that is fine.
[03:31] <ccoffey> don_jr__: it's like very fancy JBOD i think anyway. no advantage what so ever with 1 drive
[03:31] <don_jr__> pollyo okay, on this box I"m on now is where I"m getting the error and I won't be wiping it.  It's my desktop that's going to get fiesty.  this box is my laptop and I cannot install wine on it at all right now, but I"d like to
[03:35] <artabrahao> where I need to make changes to do not load kde on startup?
[03:36] <pollyo> don_jr__: Did you say that your system already appears to have the dependencies installed?
[03:36] <don_jr__> pollyo I belive so, when I aptitude upgrade <dependencie listed> it tells me I have the highest version already
[03:37] <hitmanWilly> question: is there any difference between runlevels 2 and 3 in k/ubuntu?
[03:37] <don_jr__> artabrahao as in what? you want gnomeinstead or you want to get into console instead?
[03:38] <hitmanWilly> because i haven't seen any
[03:39] <[RIP] d3jake> anybody have experiance runing Ventrilo under Wine?
 get inyo console, but is good know gnome instead if you dont mind
[03:41] <don_jr__> artabrahao if you have gnome installed, on the login screen there will be an options button that you can click and select gnome as your session and set it as default, to get into console, at login screen hit ctrl-alt-f1-6 and it will take you to a console login before kde or gnome even get started
nice, but is there a option that Can I change to do not load gui?
[03:44] <[RIP] d3jake> nightsky: thanks for all the help
[03:45] <stinkyfish> where exactly is the "deleted items" folder?
[03:45] <typedestereo> I just installed putty using aptitude
[03:45] <don_jr__> arabrahao I don't know that one, possibly in the options button befoore you log in, you may be able to set the console as your default, will have to look
[03:45] <typedestereo> in what directory is it located?
[03:46] <stinkyfish> yeah, sorry. i sent stuff there and want to clean it up to free up space
 thanks
[03:46] <specialbuddy> is there a room designated to Kubuntu upgrades
[03:47] <pollyo> don_jr__: I really do not know much about the dependency issues.  I've been doing some searching to see if I could find others with a similar situation that you have noted.
[03:47] <pollyo> don_jr__: I haven't found anything.
[03:48] <pollyo> specialbuddy:  I believe they suggest ubuntu+1 for questions about feisty.
[03:48] <pollyo> specialbuddy: Though I do not believe it is specific to the kde portion that kubuntu holds.
[03:49] <jprigot> Trash is in ~/.local/share/Trash
[03:49] <specialbuddy> why is that the guide doesn't work?
[03:49] <typedestereo> so...if I insalled something through aptitude, where would it be?
 champion!!!! thanks a million
[03:50] <hitmanWilly> arabrahao: try installing bum and disabling kdm using it
[03:50] <erz-> a specialist of amarok here ?
[03:50] <don_jr__> pollyo that's interesting...but I"ll make it
[03:50] <pollyo> don_jr__: Do you have the universe open?
[03:50] <pollyo> don_jr__:  Do you have the universe repositories enabled?
[03:51] <pollyo> don_jr__: I just came accross something that stated you could have difficulties if you do not have specific repositories enabled.
[03:51] <jprigot> Generally, you clear Trash by clicking on the icon and selecting "Empty trash bin"
 thanks
[03:52] <artabrahao> a problem, when I log in kde the screen is blank and go to login screnn again, any idea?
[03:52] <don_jr__> pollyo I have universe and multiverse opened and the winehq repository aswell
[03:53] <pollyo> don_jr__: An additional option would be to run in verbose mode:   apt-get -V build-dep wine
[03:53] <terrestre> erz-: hi man
[03:54] <terrestre> !amarock crashed
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarock crashed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <terrestre> jaja
[03:54] <terrestre> !amarock
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <terrestre> !amarok crashed
[03:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok crashed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:54] <terrestre> !amarok
[03:54] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[03:55] <terrestre> !adep crashed
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adep crashed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <typedestereo> also, does anyone have suggestions for a good c++ compiler?
[03:55] <terrestre> !adep crash
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adep crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <terrestre> !adept crash
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <don_jr__> I don't mean to be a smart alec directly, but I"ve always wondered, how does one compile a compiler? lol
[03:55] <terrestre> !adept crashed
[03:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crashed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:55] <typedestereo> don I don't mind
[03:56] <terrestre> !adept crash
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <typedestereo> I'm in an ambitious mood and feel like doing some programming.
[03:56] <pollyo> OMG... I just ran that apt-get on my machine and it wants to install 107 new packages.
[03:57] <typedestereo> 0_o
[03:57] <bronze_1_9> pollyo: and?
[03:57] <typedestereo> what are you trying to install?
[03:57] <pollyo> I already have wine running.
[03:57] <bronze_1_9> pollyo: thats is a normal apt-get behaivor
[03:57] <hitmanWilly> pollyo, build-dep downloads and builds from source iirc
[03:57] <jash> Is there a channel for kubuntu edgy? No users over there.
[03:57] <terrestre> !adept
[03:58] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[03:58] <pollyo> typedestereo: I have wine installed and I wanted to look at what the option  apt-get -V build-dep wine would do.
[03:58] <erz-> where is xorg.conf pls ?
[03:58] <jash> kubuntu feisty!
[03:58] <jash> Sorry
[03:58] <pollyo> hitmanWilly: Oh...
[03:58] <Mena> IS there any way to make opera work on 704
[03:58] <typedestereo> so where does aptitude install its packages?
[03:58] <terrestre> here is some of us using feisty
[03:58] <typedestereo> I just installed putty...and can't find it >_>
[03:58] <terrestre> !adept crash
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about adept crash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <Mena> !deptfix
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about deptfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <jash> Ok, Do you guys have problems with building collections in amarok in kubuntu feisty?
[03:58] <Mena> !adeptfix
[03:58] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:59] <terrestre> thats was i was looking for
[03:59] <Mena> Yeah
[03:59] <jash> My 36000 songs collection built fine in kubuntu edgy, however with feisty it does not work that well. Would try to uninstall amarok, and reinstall it. However it depends on the entire kubuntu-desktop.
[03:59] <terrestre> thanks Mena
[03:59] <hitmanWilly> pollyo: gentoo style
[04:00] <terrestre> !amarokfix
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarokfix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <typedestereo> so where might I find putty?
[04:00] <Mena> terrestre, U R W
[04:00] <erz-> jash: perfetly what i need i had also a collection like 30k mp3
[04:01] <jash> erz: You too have problems?
[04:01] <don_jr__> OMG my ubuntu install keeps stalling at 97% durring the cleaning up...
[04:01] <jash> erz: or have you lost 30k of mp3s in a crash?
[04:01] <jash> :(
[04:01] <erz-> jash: for sure i tried to solve y problem : building my colletion in amarok through a network drive
[04:01] <erz-> nop i still have it lol =)
[04:02] <jash> erz: ah, I have heard about several people who have had trouble with that. I am trying to build from a few ntfs drives (fuse)
[04:02] <erz-> hmm i used smbfs to mount mine
[04:03] <dhq> i upgraded to feisty and now my vmware doesnt work any help
[04:03] <specialbuddy> should I change the sources.list file to feisty instead of edgy?
[04:03] <erz-> is there a link to upgrade to feisty ?
[04:03] <dhq> specialbuddy: i would suggest you to use update-manager
[04:03] <erz-> lol top topic : D
[04:03] <specialbuddy> How do I do that?
[04:04] <dhq> sudo apt-get update-manager or get it from the adept
[04:04] <dhq> then run update-manager
[04:04] <terrestre> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade <--- you can try this
[04:04] <don_jr__> this is retarded....install locked up agian
[04:05] <jash> erz: So you are kept out of your own collection as well. Hmf, you use an alternative player such as banshee?
[04:05] <erz-> nop  today is my first step into kubuntu world =)
[04:06] <dhq> erz-: nice work and good choice
[04:07] <terrestre> mm maybe i need firefox
[04:08] <jash> erz: Ah, welcome! Installed ubuntu a month ago or something. Had a few years in windowsland. Used Linux (Redhat/Mandrake) During 1998-2000, however. So I am not entirely unfamiliar with it.
[04:08] <specialbuddy> If I have kubuntu and ubuntu is being updated to version 7.04, is that a good thing?
[04:09] <erz-> dhq: thx its very wonderfull OS :) Beryl easy to install easy to use so nice =)
[04:09] <terrestre> to me, yes
[04:09] <erz-> jash: Just use several times debain line command as server.... no experience with kde or gnome backend...
[04:10] <erz-> terrestre: i m upgrading into feisty maybe it will be better
[04:10] <don_jr__> terminal is askingme for a cd, I put the cd in the drive and hit enter and ti askes for the CD again, how do I get out of it asking mefor the CD?
[04:10] <terrestre> erz-: remember that is beta
[04:10] <terrestre> jaja
[04:10] <erz-> my beryl cresh too i wouldnt launch again =)
[04:10] <erz-> life is a beat =)
[04:10] <erz-> beta =)
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, try removing the cd from your sources.list
[04:11] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, its under /etc/apt/
[04:11] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly I'dl ove to, but it will only let me keep asking for a CD, it won't get back out to a prompt so I can do anything
[04:12] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, ctrl-c
[04:12] <don_jr__> thank you
[04:12] <specialbuddy> how can I make apapt to upg?rade to feisty
[04:13] <will> Hello, I broke my Adpet, and i was wondering if anyone could help me fix it
[04:13] <will> *Adept
[04:13] <hitmanWilly> will, how is it broken?
[04:14] <will> I tried to add a source and then it won't start
[04:14] <chemicalvamp> soo whats the differnce between a cd install and dvd install cd?
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> will try running sudo apt-get update in a konsole
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> see what happens
[04:15] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp the dvd install cd will have more on it and you have to have a dvd burner to make it work?...
[04:15] <will> I get this: E: Type 'wget' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:16] <will> can I just edit that line out?
[04:16] <Hobbsee> will: kdesu kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list and fix your sources list
[04:16] <Hobbsee> yes.  should be http://foo.bar......
[04:16] <specialbuddy> deb [WWW]  http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-proposed main isn't in my sources so should I change it to that?
[04:17] <artabrahao> a problem, when I log in kde the screen is blank and go to login screnn again, any idea?
[04:17] <don_jr__> artabrahao are you using an nvidia card? that's what it does to mee too
[04:17] <will> Thank you so much Hobbsee and hitmanWIlly!
[04:18] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy before you enter that into your repository read the whole guide
[04:18] <Hobbsee> will: :)
[04:18] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy your better off getting either i386 / amd64 depending on your archetecture
[04:18] <hitmanWilly> will: np
[04:19] <specialbuddy> well I added that and nothing is happening
[04:19] <specialbuddy> but it tells you to enable something that I don't even have
[04:19] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy i REALLY do NOT suggest using that tool.. it can take a loong time to finish.. and it isnt garunted to work
[04:19] <erz-> i strictly followed https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade and nothing happen after restarting adept and fetch again
[04:19] <specialbuddy> well what do I do then
[04:19] <don_jr__> I"m installing from teh ubuntu (dapper I believe) alternate install cd, is it possible to install kubuntu with this?
[04:20] <chemicalvamp> it crashed for me at 99% ind messed everything up.. 10 hours gone to waste
[04:20] <will> Is there an easy way to get wine? The directions on winehq aren't working for me...
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> will sudo apt-get install wine
[04:20] <hitmanWilly> its in the repos
[04:21] <will> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:21] <will> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:21] <specialbuddy> erz, the same thing happened to me
[04:21] <hitmanWilly> will is adept open?
[04:21] <will> yes
[04:21] <chemicalvamp> will endsession abd come back, it will close all programs
[04:22] <hitmanWilly> will you have to close adept to use apt-get
[04:22] <chemicalvamp> hitmanWilly its happened to me before... a program wih no window (not konsole) is hanging
[04:22] <will> I closed it.
[04:22] <specialbuddy> erz I have been trying to figure out how to get feisty to work since 6 and still haven't figured it out
[04:22] <will> Reading package lists... Done
[04:22] <will> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:22] <specialbuddy> it's driving me crazy
[04:22] <will> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:22] <will> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:22] <will> is only available from another source
[04:22] <will> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[04:22] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy heres how it works.. download the iso get a clean install
[04:22] <specialbuddy> I want to just switch over to ubuntu instead of kubuntu since I'm having no luck
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> will: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:23] <specialbuddy> I don't want to download a cd everytime I want to get something new
[04:23] <specialbuddy> it sucks
[04:23] <will> i don't know
[04:23] <will> how can I find out?
[04:23] <will> I am sorry to be such a noob, I am used to gentoo's emerge
[04:23] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy get used to it, cuz that tool is bugged
[04:24] <specialbuddy> what if I switch edgy to feisty in the sources.list
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> will: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe and multiverse repos
[04:24] <terrestre> !feisty
[04:24] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:25] <will> That is working! Thank you again!
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> migrated from fedora myself
[04:25] <specialbuddy> chemicalvamp, I'm sorry if this is an asshole thing to say but "get used to it" is something I could also say about using vista
[04:26] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy i said if you want to you BETA software you need to GET USED to problems
[04:26] <specialbuddy> it's that bad
[04:26] <uciu> hi
[04:27] <specialbuddy> some people were saying it's better then edgy
[04:27] <uciu> a have a question
[04:27] <specialbuddy> I don't know what to think now
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> specialbuddy, it is once you get it up and running
[04:27] <uciu> fin de siecle = modernizm ?
[04:28] <chemicalvamp> specialbuddy & specialbuddy.. IF you can get it running correctly
[04:28] <chemicalvamp> oops meant to click hitman
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:28] <specialbuddy> how do you do that?
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> got it
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> !fi | uciu
[04:29] <ubotu> uciu: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[04:29] <uciu> fin de siecle = modernism
[04:29] <dauoalagio2> what are the KDE dev packages
[04:29] <marco__> probably this has been asked here a zillion times... but I can't play DVD's!!!!!
[04:29] <uciu> i dont understand
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> !dvd | marco__
[04:29] <ubotu> marco__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:30] <terrestre> marc
[04:30] <terrestre> marco__: jaja yeah
[04:30] <terrestre> marco__: usas feisty o edgy?
[04:30] <terrestre> do you use
[04:30] <terrestre> sorry
 no, I'm not using nvidia
[04:30] <uciu> Are humanists here?
[04:31] <don_jr__> artabrahao then I'm not sure why it would boot you to  console instead of loading kde as it's suppose to
[04:31] <marco__> terrestre: uso feisty, con kaffeine, en una Sony Vaio....
 I change resolutoin and now after login a blank sreen appears and I type something but nothing happens
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, try running startx from the console and see what happens
[04:32] <marco__> terrestre: ya baj el xine, y todo lo relacionado de los repositorios y nada!!!
[04:32] <terrestre> marco__: all you need to do is, go to add/remove program in the menu k
[04:33] <terrestre> and search for the word ubuntu, than you could see a packaque with all the extra codecs and install
[04:33] <terrestre> do you understande me?
[04:34] <chemicalvamp> what advantages to dvd install/desktop discs have over regular cd ones?
[04:35] <terrestre> marco__: ??
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, more packages on it
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> less to dwnld
 after startx the log screen appears, agter login a blank screen, I type anything, it appears  but nothing happens
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, so its just KDE thats not starting?
[04:36] <hitmanWilly> X is running
[04:36] <chemicalvamp> how bout drivers hitmanWilly
 X is not kde or gnome?
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, nothing proprietary
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp, legal issues
[04:37] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, KDE/Gnome sits on top of X
[04:38] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, if you're getting any kind of graphics, X is running
 in this server just kde installed
[04:40] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, running kubuntu? then yes
 this server is a ubutu6.10 with apt kubuntu-desktop
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, try booting into GNOME then, see what happens
[04:42] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, select it from the sessions tab on login
[04:44] <artabrahao> > artabrahao, select it from the sessions tab on login
[04:44] <artabrahao> *
[04:44] <typedestereo> what's the run file for putty?
 if the gnome is installed it will appears in tab on login, so I think it is not installed, is the another way to check?
[04:45] <makuseru> is there any application i can add to my system bar thing to show processor usage?
[04:46] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, did you run gnome before KDE on this box?
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, apt-cache search gnome-desktop
 never ran gnome in this server, I did not know that can be this 2 installed
[04:49] <rcc> So, I'm doing an install.... I get the kubuntu screen with the line with the lit up part that goes back and forth, and now it's sitting at a black screen.... Is this normal?
 as result appears gnome-desktop-data and another files, it means that gnome is installed too?
[04:51] <draik> How do I encode an AVI to MP4?
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, if its not showing up in the login menu, its probably not there
 so what the result means?
[04:52] <rcc> hello?
[04:53] <erz-> shit my beryl is gone and wont be reinstalled .. saying to me the score is -49 oO
[04:53] <don_jr__> OMG!!!!!  Thisis the 4th time that ubuntu has stalled at 'cleaning up' 97%..........
[04:53] <cpk1> draik: try using ffmpeg
[04:53] <draik> Thank you cpk1
[04:54] <terrestre> erz-: did you see the effect ?
[04:54] <terrestre> the rotatory window
 I newer here, but I think this is not normal, maybe resolution
[04:55] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, i really don't know what's up with your kde, but that's where the problem is
[04:55] <rcc> I have a CRT....
[04:55] <erz-> terrestre: nop i have a big problem
[04:56] <erz-> i cant remove or install beryl ... nothing happend
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, sorry i couldn't be more help
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> :(
[04:56] <terrestre> mmm
[04:56] <terrestre> erz-: ,  explain that
[04:56] <rcc> hmmm
 thanks a lot!
[04:57] <rcc> and
 really
[04:57] <rcc> it went to a freaking black screen again
[04:57] <rcc> i tried safe graphics mode
[04:57] <rcc> and i have a nVidia card, I think a GeForce4 MX
[04:57] <erz-> apt-get install/remove ... do nothing for beryl package and i have some dependence alone
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, i try to help where i can
[04:58] <don_jr__> Well, thanks everyone who helped me today, I"ll be back tomorrow, this install has me frustrated with it's freezing so I"m going to bed
[04:58] <hitmanWilly> don_jr__, good luck tommorrow
[04:58] <terrestre> erz-: try with sudo aptitude purge beryl
[04:59] <rcc> seriously.
[04:59] <rcc> wtf.
[04:59] <don_jr__> hitmanWilly I'll need it! lmao, going to leave install running right now, if it stop's at 97% again it'll still be here, ifit finishes, then great! lol
[04:59] <terrestre> then sudo aptitude clean, sudo aptitude autoclean, sudo rm .r ./beryl,
[04:59] <erz-> terrestre: nop
[04:59] <terrestre> -r
 the way that I installed, I dont know if is the best, is installed ubuntu and after kde or gnome, try this link http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:00] <terrestre> erz-: nothing happend?
[05:00] <rcc> this is going me problems at the installer
[05:00] <rcc> :(
[05:00] <makuseru> can someoene recomend a program to record and edit audio, that isnt audacity?
[05:00] <draik> cpk1: ffmpeg won't work. Here is my error message.......       Unsupported codec for output stream #0.1
[05:01] <erz-> nop
 as I readed around for nvidia there some configuration, as the problem is during the installatin I used ubuntu
[05:01] <erz-> is there something to clean all package non installed
[05:01] <draik> Does anyone here know how to convert avi to mp4 using ffmpeg or another app?
[05:01] <draik> erz-: sudo apt-get autoclean
[05:01] <draik> erz-: sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:01] <draik> erz-: Both will work for you
[05:02] <terrestre> sudo apt-get check
[05:02] <makuseru> can someoene recomend a program to record and edit audio, that isnt audacity?
[05:02] <cpk1> draik: do ffmpeg -formats and see if it has the codecs you want to use?
[05:03] <terrestre> aducaity jajajjaa
[05:03] <raffytaffy> makuseru: wired
[05:03] <makuseru> what is
[05:03] <rcc> artabrahao, that is a postinstall issue
[05:03] <draik> cpk1: I show mpeg4 and not mp4, should that matter?
[05:03] <rcc> I can't get the freaking installer to come up :'(
[05:04] <cpk1> mpeg4 is mp4
 but in ubuntu all the installatin is in console
[05:04] <cpk1> try saving it as .mpeg4 i guess
[05:04] <rcc> WTF
[05:04] <raffytaffy> makuseru:  http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/Wired
[05:04] <draik> cpk1: Unable for find a suitable output format for 'IJ.mpeg4'
[05:04] <rcc> screen finaly freaking came back
[05:04] <draik> That's the error message I get now
[05:04] <makuseru> oh
[05:04] <makuseru> i thought you said weird
[05:04] <makuseru> oops
[05:04] <rcc> something screwy....
[05:04] <WillLuongo> Hello again, I have successfully installed wine, and it's gui, but I can't find them
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, not on the non-server (desktop) versions
[05:05] <cpk1> hm so mp4 is the right right one
[05:05] <rcc> what TTYs does the installer use (6.10)
[05:05] <draik> cpk1: My wife's iPod uses mp4 for the video
[05:05] <draik> cpk1: That's why I'm trying to convert an avi to mp4.
[05:06] <raffytaffy> draik: u can convert it
[05:06] <draik> raffytaffy: How?
[05:06] <raffytaffy> i believe devede will do this
[05:06] <raffytaffy> !devede
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about devede - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <erz-> dont work ... shit : /
[05:06] <erz-> beryl is hurting me
[05:06] <draik> raffytaffy: I have devede
[05:06] <rcc> there are a metric shitload of ksnapshot procs running
[05:06] <draik> raffytaffy: I will try that, thank you.
[05:06] <raffytaffy> let me see if i know any others one sec
[05:07] <raffytaffy> draik: http://www.gnomefiles.org/category.php?cat_id=12`
to install without video problems just using the server versions, or ther another way?
[05:08] <rcc> can't get into x on this damned thing
[05:09] <Ubuntulator> how do I log into a session as root ?
[05:09] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, iirc the desktop cd's have a text mode installer
[05:09] <rcc> ah, fuck
[05:10] <rcc> I know what's going on
[05:10] <hitmanWilly> rcc do tell
[05:10] <Ubuntulator> !root
[05:10] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:10] <rcc> Any way to force video card detection?
[05:10] <Ubuntulator> !root session
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about root session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <rcc> It's using the wrong card for X
[05:11] <rcc> (I think)
[05:11] <Ubuntulator> !session
[05:11] <dauoalagio2> Hi i have a folder of icons, how can i make it the system icon theme, in kcontrol it says invalid format
[05:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about session - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <rcc> fuck
[05:12] <cpk1> rcc: read-edid can pull information, you need to edit xorg.conf to tell X what to use
[05:12] <draik> raffytaffy: The avi is converting to mpeg. How do I convert it to mp4?
[05:12] <raffytaffy> ahh
[05:13] <rcc> fuck it, I'll just pull the other card out.
[05:13] <raffytaffy> draik: here is your answer  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=360774
[05:13] <raffytaffy> no wait
[05:13] <raffytaffy> it wont
[05:13] <raffytaffy> one sec
 in the desktop cd, kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386, how is possible choose text modeinstallation?
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, when it first boots up, its one of the options
[05:16] <draik> raffytaffy: You're right. It won't work. I just tried it.
[05:17] <raffytaffy> draik: would something that does this qualify?  "Perl-GTK frontend to mencoder for encoding media file to MPEG4."
[05:17] <dauoalagio2> Hi i have a folder of icons, how can i make it the system icon theme, in kcontrol it says invalid format
`so the best way is install kubunto and after the other applications?
[05:18] <raffytaffy> draik: this is for ipod video yes/
[05:19] <raffytaffy> ?
[05:23] <draik> raffytaffy: Yes. My wife's iPod.
[05:24] <raffytaffy> i knowa program for you draik
[05:24] <draik> ok
[05:24] <raffytaffy> draik : http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php/SIVE
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, generally i like text mode myself
[05:24] <hitmanWilly> artabrahao, yes, if you want to use KDE
[05:25] <hitmanWilly> well, gotta go
[05:30] <artabrahao> hitmanWilly> thanks again
[05:31] <lolote> allo all
[05:34] <draik> raffytaffy: THANK YOU.
[05:34] <draik> That seems to be doing the trick
[05:34] <raffytaffy> good
[05:34] <draik> Although, what's with the mp4 muxer program?
[05:36] <raffytaffy> draik: i dont use ipod ; therefore i never had any experience with such issue. im good @ finding programs thou:P
[05:37] <draik> raffytaffy: That you are. Thank you for the research.
[05:37] <raffytaffy> i dont mind it. helps me gain more knowledge
[05:37] <draik> I agree with you on that.
[05:38] <draik> My issue is that I'm never quite sure what I'm looking for in the first place.
[05:38] <draik> One search leads to another.
[05:38] <draik> And it's not always on track.
[05:39] <raffytaffy> i use a few well known websites
[05:39] <raffytaffy> and tricky google terms
[05:40] <raffytaffy> for instance: for your question i googled " how to convert avi mp4 ipod"
[05:40] <raffytaffy> and first few hits were on the money
[05:44] <dauoalagio2> how come in Kopete i can't add myself?
[05:50] <duck_> how do i mount the floppy disk?)
[05:51] <draik> raffytaffy: I googled "ipod video format" first to get a general idea of the format. Then I found a few sites showing how to convert.
[05:52] <raffytaffy> ahh ok
[05:52] <draik> raffytaffy: Unfortunately, they weren't very helpful.
[05:52] <raffytaffy> usually it takes a few tries
[05:53] <draik> Yup
[05:55] <duck_> how do i mount my floppy drive?
[06:02] <kalorin> I usually use 3 screws
[06:02] <kalorin> I'm not sure how YOU mount it
[06:02] <rcc> OK
[06:03] <rcc> Why does the installer claim I have no root filesystem specified?
[06:03] <rcc> When I do, in fact.
[06:05] <zak_> what's the easiest way to join several .mpg files together?
[06:08] <mister_roboto> zak_: cat
[06:08] <bort> hello, how do I gain root access in /usr directory, I want to br able to copy a directory into it
[06:09] <emoXcore> windos xp (A)
[06:09] <emoXcore> iss very good?
[06:09] <zak_> mister_roboto: wait that actually works?
[06:09] <MuJ> bort: sudo cp files /usr
[06:09] <mister_roboto> zak_: yes
[06:10] <bort> MuJ: I want to copy a hole directory, not just one file
[06:10] <bort> MuJ: is it the same command?
[06:10] <MuJ> sudo cp dir/ /usr
[06:10] <MuJ> ;P
[06:10] <DaSkreech> bort: You have a hole in your directory?
[06:10] <MuJ> add -R to that
[06:11] <mister_roboto> zak_: cat file1 file2 ... filen > newfile
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hiya
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hi DaSkreech
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: How are you?
[06:12] <bort> Muj: Thx man
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: good...
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <Hobbsee> emoXcore: ?
[06:12] <zak_> mister_roboto: cool... it didn't even occur to me that something like that might work... thanks
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <emoXcore> 
[06:12] <DaSkreech> emoXcore: Please stop that
[06:12] <mister_roboto> thank you, hobbsee!
[06:14] <juifsournois> hi, about ktorrent: i create a torrent, send it to the tracker, download the marked torrent, try to seed it, it tells me permission denied to access the links that were made in /.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor0/cache/
[06:15] <juifsournois> and wont seed. what's doing this ?
[06:18] <juifsournois> permissions are all to the user running the app
[06:21] <aabrahao> how do i get phpmysqladmin and a list of all packages avaliable?
[06:22] <don_jr__> Hello, con someone help me get my nvidia drivers installed through consoleonly?
[06:22] <soulrider> !envy
[06:22] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[06:22] <don_jr__> soulrider envy isn't working, I've got it and tried says it needs some dependency that's not there and I can't apt-get it
[06:23] <soulrider> don_jr__: ok
[06:23] <soulrider> don_jr__: first thing, install the apckage called nvidia-glx
[06:23] <soulrider> do you know how to do that ?
[06:23] <don_jr__> done it
[06:23] <soulrider> ok
[06:23] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Yo
[06:23] <soulrider> now, lets make a backup of your xorg configuration
[06:23] <soulrider> type
[06:23] <don_jr__> soulrider I installedit, then altered my /tec/X11/xorg.conf file already
[06:24] <soulrider> it should be installed then
[06:24] <don_jr__> DaSkreech Hello there, you missed all my fun, I really goofed up my desktop and had to totally reinstall again, it just finished and I"m trying to get nvidia to work again
[06:24] <soulrider> don_jr__: are you sure its not working ?
[06:24] <don_jr__> soulrider after I did that and did 'startx' it came back with a problem, then again I should probaby reboot eh? lol
[06:24] <soulrider> don
[06:25] <soulrider> ctrl + alt + backspace
[06:25] <soulrider> if you see the logo, youre done
[06:25] <don_jr__> okay, give me a moment, since it's a fresh install and my laptop wasn't loading up very quick I did an apt-get update, it'll be done in a moment and I'll try that
[06:25] <soulrider> ok
[06:26] <soulrider> feisty is comming out soon :)
[06:26] <don_jr__> soulrider yes, I'm installing rightnow off of an ubuntu dapper alternate install disk, then I add in KDE onceit's up and running, I've done this once already today! lol  but envy worked first try earlier, now it didn't....heh
[06:26] <don_jr__> I"m at 60% of the update
[06:27] <soulrider> ok ok, dont worry
[06:27] <don_jr__> I love ubuntu, I won't use another distro of linux now, This place has the best help I've seen.  Love this channel! =)
[06:28] <soulrider> don_jr__: i used to think like that, im using another distro ATM, but i still come here
[06:28] <soulrider> ubuntu has the most awesome community support
[06:28] <soulrider> my dad may start to use linux, and im gonna install ubuntu on his machine
[06:28] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: you install a server install?
[06:28] <don_jr__> soulrider that's cool, I"m just a newb to linux and this type of help is awesome for someone like me.
[06:28] <don_jr__> I'll love this if I can get wine to work even better! lol
[06:29] <soulrider> don_jr__: when you use ubuntu you can get tons of help
[06:29] <don_jr__> DaSkreech no I dind't install the server...though I could have
[06:29] <DaSkreech> so you install the desktop?
[06:29] <soulrider> DaSkreech: if he ahd installed the server one he wouldnt even ahve xorg :P
[06:29] <don_jr__> DaSkreech if I remember right, the last time I installed the server I was left with a command prompt only and for a newb like me, that's not very nice! lol so yes I installed the ubuntu desktop.
[06:29] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: arrrghhh
[06:29] <DaSkreech> noooooo
[06:30] <don_jr__> DaSkreech why?? I can redo it! lol it only takes about an hour
[06:30] <DaSkreech> install the server then at the prompt type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:30] <DaSkreech> and you are done
[06:30] <soulrider> im using arch linux, it didnt have xorg when i installed it. I still cant believe i managed to install and xonfigure it :P
[06:30] <DaSkreech> It's takes like 15 minutes with server
[06:30] <soulrider> DaSkreech: but he ahs to download all the packages! :P
[06:30] <don_jr__> DaSkreech really?? hmmmmm I may ahve to try that then.......get kubuntu  and then I'd still ahve to install the nvidia drivers
[06:30] <don_jr__> let me see if this invidia works or not.
[06:31] <don_jr__> soulrider yeah, but I"ve got all night! lol
[06:31] <DaSkreech> soulrider: He has to do that anyway and he doesn't have to remove gnome
[06:31] <DaSkreech>  that's a pain the butt
[06:31] <don_jr__> honestlly I"m going to download edgy kubuntu ISO once I get this done anyways...unless DaSkreech I can do that through the server install??? that would save me download and burn time! lol
[06:31] <DaSkreech> With KDE you remove one package and you are done
[06:32] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: you can but not for newbs :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> !netboot
[06:32] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:32] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I would think I'd just have to change my sources.list to edgy files and then do the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop wouldn't I?
[06:33] <don_jr__> no...that wouldn't affect the kernel or grub which was probably updated with edgy aswell eh?
[06:33] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Yup
[06:34] <DaSkreech> you could do a dist-upgrade in server
[06:34] <vontux> hello, does anyone know if the guide located here: will work for ubuntu 6.10?
[06:34] <DaSkreech>  waaaay faster
[06:34] <vontux> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[06:35] <don_jr__> reading about netboot now.  so I could install the server, do a dist-upgrade, then download kubuntu desktop from the edgy repo's?  that doesn't sound too hard.
[06:35] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: and it would be waaaaay faster
[06:36] <vontux> hello, does anyone know if the guide located here: will work for ubuntu 6.10? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=98456
[06:37] <don_jr__> Okay, so I install fresh the server, do a dist-upgrade, then apt-get kubuntu-desktop??
[06:37] <DaSkreech> sure
[06:37] <don_jr__> soulrider I did ctrl-alt-backspace and nothing happened, keep in mind I'm on a console/terminal only till nvidia works
[06:37] <don_jr__> DaSkreech and that would have me with edgy over night?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> you would then be on the top edgy
[06:37] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: that's the idea
[06:38] <WillLuongo> Hello, can anyone tell me how to change my default browser?
[06:38] <DaSkreech> vontux: No idea
[06:38] <DaSkreech> !default
[06:38] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[06:38] <soulrider> don_jr__: ohh, i thought you were in KDE
[06:38] <don_jr__> DaSkreech you gonna be on for an hour or so more?  I may need the help.
[06:38] <DaSkreech> sure
[06:38] <vontux> DaSkreech: ok, thx anyway :)
[06:39] <WillLuongo> ubotu: How would I go about changing my web browser?
[06:39] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I"m going to start the server install now
[06:39] <WillLuongo> oops
[06:39] <DaSkreech> vontux: Don't suppose it would kill you to try it
[06:39] <WillLuongo> lol
[06:39] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  you're in kubuntu?
[06:39] <WillLuongo> bobstro: yeah
[06:39] <DaSkreech>  vontux if it helps you can ask in #ubuntu
[06:39] <DaSkreech> the answer would be the same
[06:39] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Hold up. where were you now/
[06:39] <DaSkreech> ?
[06:39] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  system settings-> default applications
[06:40] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  the bot answered appropriate for opening html files and such
[06:40] <don_jr__> DaSkreech I have ubuntu desktop fully installed and trying to get X to start by getting my nvidia drivers to work.
[06:40] <vontux> DaSkreech: well I know it won't kill me to try it, but I figured I'd try to ask before attempting
[06:41] <WillLuongo> bobstro: I don't see a default applications option
[06:41] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: ha ha Well then just wait till next time then
[06:41] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  in system settings panel?
[06:41] <don_jr__> I plan on downloading edgy kubuntu iso once it's up and installing that once it's burnt anyways, if I can get edgy kubuntu this way it saves me time and a CD and I'll knwo how to do it next time.....but, if it's safer and faster to just download I'll do it that way
[06:41] <bobstro> mine's at top right
[06:41] <WillLuongo> bobstro: yes
[06:41] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Ok fine lets go then
[06:41] <WillLuongo> bobstro: my top right is... kde components
[06:41] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: wait
[06:42] <DaSkreech> are you doing it on the machine you are on now?
[06:42] <don_jr__> DaSkreech make up my mind here! lmao
[06:42] <don_jr__> this I"m talking to you on nowis my laptop, it's staying as it is
[06:42] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  hmm. i have personal... default apps
[06:42] <WillLuongo> bobstro: I found it... it is in user accounts for me
[06:42] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: ok so it's a different machine?
[06:42] <don_jr__> I installed ubuntu desktop on it about a year ago, running dapper and I've removed gnome from it properly
[06:42] <don_jr__> yep, 2 different boxes, my desktop PC is theone we are working on, my laptop is the one I'm on talking here right now
[06:43] <don_jr__> so start the server install or burn the cd? lol
[06:43] <DaSkreech> start the install
[06:43] <DaSkreech> server install
[06:43] <don_jr__> it's started now, won't be able to back out after I do the partition and format
[06:45] <don_jr__> I"m going to go with edgy for now, I've heard too much about troubles with fiesty recognizing network cards and don't want to do this again tomorrow! lol
[06:45] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[06:45] <DaSkreech> you can update in two weeks anyway
[06:46] <don_jr__> once it's done and I know it will read everything right I probably will
[06:47] <don_jr__> installing base system now, 40% done
[06:49] <cntb> and /..?
[06:49] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: the next time you may want to make a /home partition
[06:51] <don_jr__> ?
[06:51] <don_jr__> it automatically does that dosn't it?  what would another partition do forme?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Do you understand about partitions?
[06:52] <don_jr__> guess not....
[06:52] <bobstro> DaSkreech:  i wish i'd thought of that last night! just reinstalled my laptop.
[06:52] <don_jr__> why add another partition to the main one and swap?
[06:53] <DaSkreech> bobstro: It's very useful
[06:53] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: ok do you know the FHS?
[06:53] <don_jr__> nope
[06:53] <bobstro> DaSkreech:  yeah, i backup up $HOME but sorta forgot the . files. :)
[06:53] <DaSkreech> !fhs
[06:53] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[06:54] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: read ^^^
[06:54] <bobstro> don_jr__:  save you over-writing your home stuff if reinstalling for one. i got bit last night.
[06:54] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: however the point is that your user's folder is in a folder called home
[06:55] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: all your settings are stored in ~
[06:55] <DaSkreech> ~ is your home folder
[06:56] <bobstro> now i'm having to reorganize all the nice menus i had set up.
[06:56] <aabrahao> sudo apt-get install ubutun-desktop, why does not work?
[06:56] <bobstro> ok... where's the kdm theme control panel these days?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: if you put it on it's own partition then when you reinstall all of the settings for your programs remain the same
[06:56] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: spelt wrong
[06:57] <don_jr__> DaSkreech that makes sense. I'll have to remember that.  the server is installed and booting up for the first time now, what's next? =)
[06:58] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Want to learn a geek's way or just the eeasy way
[06:58] <don_jr__> DaSkreech well....either really, I just want to get it done! lol
[06:58] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: easy way then
[06:58] <DaSkreech> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <don_jr__> it's opened, can I # out the cd listings?? lol
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:59] <don_jr__> change all in here that says dapper to edgy?
[06:59] <downlink> hello
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Yes
[06:59] <don_jr__> ok, starting now
[07:00] <don_jr__> it's spelled that way right? edgy?
[07:00] <don_jr__> and should I do the universe ones aswell and enable them?
[07:01] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: sure why not
[07:01] <don_jr__> ok
[07:01] <DaSkreech> do you understand the sources.list ?
[07:01] <DaSkreech>  you know the difference between edgy and edgy-backports /
[07:01] <DaSkreech> ?
[07:02] <dystopianray> DaSkreech: edgy-backports has a small selection of newer packages backported from feisty
[07:02] <DaSkreech> dystopianray: I know what it is I was asking if he knew :-)
[07:02] <don_jr__> I don't 'know' the difference per se, but I'm not opening up backports right now...unless I should.....but I did change dapper-security to edgy-security insead
[07:03] <DaSkreech>  so he doesn't go editing the entire thing and turning on stuff he doesn't want/need
[07:03] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: ok cool
[07:03] <don_jr__> I know the name will tell the server what packages to grab...
[07:03] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Might as well turn on multiverse as well
[07:03] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: on the line that has edgy universe at the end
[07:03] <aabrahao> sudo apt-get install ubutu-desktop, why does not work? I uncomment sources.list
[07:03] <DaSkreech> just put multiverse after that
[07:04] <don_jr__> I don't see it in here, you'll have to give me those address's so I can add them manually
[07:04] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: spelt wrong
[07:04] <dauoalagio2> how can i add my own screen name to Kopete
[07:04] <aabrahao> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, why does not work? I uncomment sources.list
[07:04] <don_jr__> okay, same address just different end, got it
[07:04] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: try sudo apt-get update
[07:04] <dauoalagio2> aabrahao, what's the error
 cant find the package, with phpmyadmin too
[07:05] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: so the line should end edgy universe multiverse
[07:06] <dauoalagio2> aabrahao: did you allow multiverse and universe
[07:06] <DaSkreech> dauoalagio2: that makes no difference
[07:06] <DaSkreech> !ubuntu-desktop
[07:06] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[07:06] <don_jr__> oh....I added in the entire line then added multiverse. so I have the exact lines twice one with universe at the end andone with mutliverse at the end, should I change it?
[07:07] <dauoalagio2> aabrahao: sudo apt-cache search ubuntu
[07:07] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: nope that's cool
[07:07] <dauoalagio2> what does that returen
[07:07] <don_jr__> DaSkreech okay, what's next?
[07:07] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: save
[07:07] <don_jr__> apt-get dist-upgrade? lol
[07:07] <don_jr__> save what?
[07:07] <don_jr__> and how? and all that good jazz lmao
[07:07] <DaSkreech> there should be a list of instructions at the botto
[07:07] <DaSkreech> ctrl+o I think or ctrl+x
[07:07] <DaSkreech> try ctrl+o
[07:07] <don_jr__> bottom of what?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Of the nano application
[07:08] <don_jr__> oh hell, I already saved the file and exited back to terminal! lol
[07:08] <DaSkreech> right :)
[07:08] <DaSkreech> ok type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:09] <don_jr__> it's running now and will take some time! lol
[07:09] <don_jr__> maybe not, downloads are done and it's installing
[07:09] <don_jr__> after this I'll do what? apt-get kubuntu-desktop?
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[07:10] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: No you don't need to
[07:10] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: try typing apt-get update
[07:10] <don_jr__> oh yes, this will take some time....on get:22 and only 15% done! lol
[07:10] <DaSkreech> sudo apt-get update
[07:10] <chemicalvamp> wow clerts 2 is soo weird
[07:10] <don_jr__> chemicalvamp hi hi
[07:10] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: Yeah You could technically have typed sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop at the end of that
[07:10] <chemicalvamp> hello
[07:11] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: want me to show you some thing fun?
[07:11] <typedestereo> ...well that's odd
[07:11] <chemicalvamp> whats fun? im kinda bored
[07:11] <typedestereo> I was just installing fiest fawn, and the progress bar dissapeared
[07:11] <don_jr__> DaSkreech sure....the desktop is downloading and upgrading, so I"m free on the laptop...what's up?
[07:11] <sonoftheclayr> okay, i have a hardware problem. my dell inspirion 2650 battery won't charge. kubuntu tells me the battery is charging and so does the charge light so i think it is a problem with the power supply, did anyone ever have a similar problem?
[07:11] <typedestereo> and I'm not done.
[07:11] <typedestereo> I accidently closed terminal
[07:11] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: want to know how to get help without the gui?
[07:11] <typedestereo> does this mean my upgrade was cancelled?
[07:11] <bobstro> sonoftheclayr:  i've had batteries go bad and do that, yes.
[07:12] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr yes, it's the battery it's self
[07:12] <DaSkreech> typedestereo: Probably
[07:12] <don_jr__> DaSkreech sure, that's always a pluss, just hope your not talking about irssi cause I can use it already! hehe
[07:12] <typedestereo> ah damnit.
[07:12] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: damn :-(
[07:12] <don_jr__> lol
[07:12] <sonoftheclayr> bobstro don_jr__, you sure? i just don't want to go out and buy a new battery and find out that doesn't work either. i searched around on the dell forums and the 2650 seems to have a lot of power problems
[07:13] <don_jr__> and then I can alt+f1-6 and get to different terminals so while I"m on irssi I can go to another terminal and try out the comands.
[07:13] <aabrahao> sudo apt-cache search ubuntu
[07:13] <bobstro> sonoftheclayr:  well, i'm not sure, i'm just telling you what i've experienced.
[07:13] <dauoalagio2> aabrahao: well
[07:13] <sonoftheclayr> bobstro: thanks anyway, i'll take it into the repair shop soon, if i can bear to live without it :)
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[07:14] <bobstro> sonoftheclayr:  if you have their maintenance, call 'em and let the dude come out and check it.
[07:14] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr I can't say it's 100% fact, but I've had that problem with laptops of my own and it makes sense, it is technically charging, the computer see's it and so does ubuntu.....but the battery it's self won't hold the charge...it's logical aswell.  But if other forums have told you that that particular model has power suply problems that should be easy to check out.
[07:14] <bobstro> sonoftheclayr:  or borrow a battery from someone for a few minutes.
[07:14] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: did you try sudo apt-get update ?
[07:14] <dauoalagio2> aabrahao: have you updated to Edgy?
[07:14] <typedestereo> hm
[07:14] <typedestereo> how can I tell if the install completed or not?
[07:15] <don_jr__> typedestereo install of what?
[07:15] <bobstro> typedestereo:  how were you upgrading?
[07:15] <typedestereo> ...fiesty fawn >_>
[07:15] <typedestereo> aptitude
[07:15] <sonoftheclayr> bobstro: i don't know anyone who has the same battery and i don't think the guys make house calls to us, i'm not exactly near a shop
[07:15] <DaSkreech> typedestereo: reopen a terminal
[07:15] <typedestereo> I closed terminal by mistake, and am not sure whether the upgrade worked
[07:15] <DaSkreech> check if you can sudo aptitude update
[07:15] <typedestereo> right, opened
[07:15] <bobstro> sonoftheclayr:  ah, ok. dell sells their on-site service plan, but you need to have paid for it of course.
[07:16] <don_jr__> DaSkreech downloads completed and it's unpacking and setting up now.
[07:16] <don_jr__> getting lot's of perl warnings
[07:16] <sonoftheclayr> i got the laptop off ebay and it did say that the battery didn't work and only $20 to repair it so that's one of the reasons why i think it's a hardware problem and not battery
[07:16] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:17] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: errors or warnings?
[07:17] <don_jr__> Okay, I"ll be back in a few, gotta talk to my wife for a bit before she falls asleep while all this is updating
[07:17] <bobstro> sonoftheclayr:  well, buying a new battery isn't much of a risk. worst case, you get a handy second battery!
[07:17] <don_jr__> they are warnings :setting local failed warnign: please check that your locale settings:  LANGUAGE = "in", are supported
[07:18] <don_jr__> it's going by really fast but that's what I got off of it.
[07:18] <DaSkreech> warnings are cool
[07:18] <sonoftheclayr> bobstro: true, my brothers an electrician so i'll get him to bring over one of his electrical measure thingys and see if the pins are giving out enough power
[07:18] <DaSkreech> well not really  but they are ignorable
[07:18] <don_jr__> it's generating locales on it's own now...lol
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[07:19] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: what error?
[07:19] <don_jr__> okay, brb going to talk to wife
[07:20] <DaSkreech> tell her hi
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[07:21] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: type ping www.yahoo.com
[07:24] <don_jr__> okay that's done, apt-get kubuntu-desktop starting now
[07:25] <DaSkreech> don_jr__: neat
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[07:26] <don_jr__> This one is going to take a long time.  I"m gonna go get some sleep and we'll work on setting the rest of it up tomorrow.  thanks alot DaSkreech for the advice and help this has saved me alot, it'll be done by morning probably and now I dont'have to finish one install just to download and burn and reinstall again!!
[07:26] <don_jr__> Gnight all have a good one
[07:26] <sonoftheclayr> does the new network manager in feisty not correctly show signal strength for wirelesss in the tray? i just have two bars all the time and the router is less than 2 metres away
[07:27] <DaSkreech> don_jr__-afk: Night
[07:27] <dystopianray> sonoftheclayr: it would depend on your drivers ability to report signal strength
[07:27] <dystopianray> sonoftheclayr: what wireless nic do you have?
[07:27] <sonoftheclayr> dystopianray: i use the madwifi drivers
[07:28] <dystopianray> sonoftheclayr: that should report signal strength properly, maybe there is a lot of interference or something
[07:28] <sonoftheclayr> dystopianray: maybe, but it's usually really strong
[07:29] <chemicalvamp> are there any 3d games for kubuntu?
[07:30] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: what sort of game are you after?
[07:30] <chemicalvamp> something fun
[07:30] <chemicalvamp> and free
[07:30] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: any particular genre? does it have to be 3d?
[07:30] <chemicalvamp> malinybe rpgish
[07:30] <chemicalvamp> is there a site i can browse?
[07:30] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: nethack and angband are great, but not 3d
[07:31] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: packages.ubuntu.com
[07:31] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: that will show what is in the official repos, but there are many more games out there
[07:31] <DaSkreech> chemicalvamp: Yeah Loats
[07:31] <DaSkreech> !games
[07:31] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:31] <DaSkreech> also try happypenguin
[07:31] <DaSkreech> .org
[07:31] <mardi> hi, is there a way i can schedule adept updater to run when I want?
[07:32] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: wesnoth is pretty cool, it's kind of like heroes of might and magic
[07:32] <CpuWhiz> I installed the kubuntu feisty beta, ran all the updates and installed the restricted manager and it said "Your hardware does not need any restricted drivers" even tho I have a nvidia card and a broadcom.
[07:32] <CpuWhiz> am I missing something?
[07:32] <chemicalvamp> whats the funnest rpg? wesnoth?
[07:32] <dystopianray> CpuWhiz: #ubuntu+1
[07:33] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: nethack or angband
[07:33] <DaSkreech> mardi: It already does
[07:33] <DaSkreech> mardi: What do you want it to do?
[07:33] <|lostbyte|> whats the shortcut key to make a windows sticky ?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> chemicalvamp: Ohh try kq
[07:33] <DaSkreech> !kq
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kq - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <DaSkreech> !info kq
[07:33] <mardi> DaSkreech: i'd like to to run late at night, during my ISP 'off peak' time
[07:33] <ubotu> kq: adventure game in the spirit of Final Fantasy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.cvs20060528-3 (edgy), package size 206 kB, installed size 768 kB
[07:33] <|lostbyte|> window*
[07:34] <DaSkreech> mardi: you want it to update for you?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !globulation2
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about globulation2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <DaSkreech> !info globulation2
[07:34] <ubotu> Package globulation2 does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
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[07:34] <chemicalvamp> ok heres a tech question.. really... i typed in nethack in adept.. now how do i filter the results?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: do you have a GUI?
[07:35] <edgy> !xdebug
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xdebug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:35] <edgy> !info xdebug
[07:35] <ubotu> Package xdebug does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:35] <mardi> DaSkreech: sorry, i'd like to schedule adept updater not to auto-run at all, what i have scheduled to run at night is apt-cron, which will fetch the packages
[07:35] <chemicalvamp> is nethack text based?
[07:35] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: you should only have about 10 or so results, install nethack-x11, nethack-qt, nethack-gnome or nethack-console depending on what sort of frontend you want
[07:36] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: yes, but there are graphical frontends
[07:36] <mardi> chemicalvamp: yes
[07:36] <chemicalvamp> im not into text based
[07:36] <rcc> Can someone point me at the repositories I need add to get libdvdcss and mplayer-codecs?
[07:36] <DaSkreech> mardi: ah umm
[07:36] <DaSkreech> remove it? :-)
[07:36] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: it's not text as in typing, text as in the game world is represened as ascii charactesr
[07:36] <DaSkreech> mardi: try the man page
[07:36] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: and if you dont' want any ascii characters install a graphical frontend
[07:37] <DaSkreech> !dvd | rcc
[07:37] <ubotu> rcc: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:37] <mardi> DaSkreech: then i guess i can just apt-get upgrade? No manual entry for adept
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[07:37] <DaSkreech> mardi: not sure about making it not run. read the man page
[07:37] <chemicalvamp> egoboo is 3d, is it anygood?
[07:37] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: can You pastebin your sources.list?
[07:38] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: install nethack-qt
[07:38] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: never played it, never heard of it, it's probably lame
[07:38] <se7en> somebody got amarok transcode running ? i get The script 'transKode' exited with error code: 127
[07:38] <mardi> DaSkreech: i don't have a man page for adept, nor can i find one
[07:39] <dystopianray> se7en: when does this error appear?
[07:39] <mardi> wait, i found one
[07:39] <dystopianray> se7en: I think I needed some library installed to get transkode running libpng3 i think
[07:40] <se7en> dystopianray: yes error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.3:
[07:40] <se7en> but i can't find the lib
[07:40] <dystopianray> se7en: install the libpng3 package
[07:41] <se7en> ok thanks dystopianray works
[07:42] <mardi> DaSkreech: ok, so i can't find one, do you have 'man adept' on your system?
[07:43] <DaSkreech> mardi: hmm
[07:43] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: you can use wine to run your favourite windows games, although they may not always work
[07:43] <DaSkreech> mardi: Open a konqueror window and type man:/ade and see if it auto completes :)
[07:43] <cntb> hi \o
[07:44] <mardi> DaSkreech: no, it does not
[07:44] <cntb> where to read latest about feisty 7.04 ?
[07:44] <DaSkreech> >_<
[07:44] <chemicalvamp> i have qemu and a windows xp install
[07:44] <DaSkreech> cntb: What do you want to read?
[07:44] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: that's going to be nothing but painful and slow
[07:44] <cntb> DaSkreech: when is feisty due ?
[07:45] <chemicalvamp> so install nethack-x11, nethack-qt, and nethack-common?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !feisty
[07:45] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[07:45] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: no, you only need to install one of the frontends
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[07:45] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[07:45] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: if you want a graphical frontend install nethack-qt
[07:45] <cntb> ty DaSkreech
[07:45] <Ashex> how do i figure out the locations of the partitions
[07:45] <DaSkreech> cntb: ^^^^
[07:45] <Ashex> I don't mean /dev/sdb1, but (hd1,0(
[07:45] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: did you pastebin your sources?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Ah grub
[07:46] <DaSkreech> !grub
[07:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:46] <ubuntu_> I have an ubuntu 6.10 live CD, but when trying to boot it freezes. It shows the UBUNTU screen with the bar but it is gray, and buggy. The progress bar goes left and right several times until it freezes. I tried with "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi" added using the extra parameters option. I have an AMD64 x2 and a Soyo Motherboard.
[07:47] <ubuntu_> I've now booted with a Kubuntu 6.06 live CD
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[07:48] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: can You pastebin it
[07:48] <DaSkreech> !paste | aabrahao
[07:48] <ubotu> aabrahao: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:48] <edgy> l/part
[07:48] <dystopianray> ubuntu_: does kubuntu boot?
[07:49] <DaSkreech> dystopianray: yes just not the 6.10 one
[07:49] <ubuntu_> dystopianray: yes it does. I'm using kubuntu now
[07:49] <dystopianray> ubuntu_: have you tried the 7.04 beta?
[07:49] <ubuntu_> nop
[07:50] <ubuntu_> should I?
[07:50] <dystopianray> ubuntu_: if possible I would recommend trying it to see if it also fails to boot
[07:51] <ubuntu_> ok, thanks you. I'll spent the night downloading. I'll be back tomorrow
[07:51] <chemicalvamp> egoboo is actually kinda fun..... if i knew what the heck i as doing
[07:52] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: did you try nethack?
[07:54] <aabrahao> tks
[07:54] <aabrahao> thanks
[07:54] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: paste the sources there and give me back the URL
[07:55] <chemicalvamp> dystopianray yeah it looked really lame
[07:55] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: you will only judge it by looks?
[07:56] <chemicalvamp> no, by the movement and the graphics
[07:56] <DaSkreech> !games | chemicalvamp  try these
[07:56] <ubotu> chemicalvamp  try these: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[07:57] <bobstro> chemicalvamp:  have you tried frozenbubble?
[07:57] <bobstro> chemicalvamp:  (arcade-ish)
[07:57] <Luft> Can anyone tell me how to recover the application panel (Kicker I think) when it goes away and never comes back?  It has happend to me twice now.
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Ahhh that game is crack on multiplayer
[07:57] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: the graphics are irrelevant, the only important thing is the game itself
[07:58] <bobstro> well, "irrelevant" is a pretty personal decision.
[07:59] <dystopianray> well if you only care about graphics you shouldn't be playing games
[07:59] <dystopianray> go watch a movie
[07:59] <bobstro> ahaha, that's funny
[07:59] <bobstro> go tell the games industry
[08:00] <chemicalvamp> if all you want out of a game is a story.. go read a book
[08:00] <bobstro> or play chess
[08:00] <bobstro> nethack was fun 20 years ago. a bit dated now.
[08:00] <Luft> Can anyone tell me how to recover the application panel (Kicker I think) when it goes away and never comes back?  It has happend to me twice now.
[08:00] <dystopianray> bobstro: 20 years ago it was a very different game
[08:00] <chemicalvamp> what i want in a game: decent graphic.. i mean ps1 equivalent at least.. fun.. (duh) playability
[08:01] <bobstro> dystopianray:  under the hood it's the same. the little dog just doesn't compare.
[08:01] <dystopianray> the only thing which makes it 'dated' is that it doesn't have 3d graphics
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Luft: sure you didn't click the "hide arrow" ?
[08:01] <bobstro> dystopianray:  er, it's a pretty basic mapping game.
[08:01] <chemicalvamp> its not like im looking for a WoW quality graphics or anything
[08:02] <DaSkreech> wow doesn't look that good
[08:02] <DaSkreech> chemicalvamp: RPG?
[08:02] <chemicalvamp> yeah i know and it doesnt require alot
[08:02] <bobstro> dystopianray:  i've tried it again out of a sense of nostalgia, but it gets old fast.
[08:02] <aabrahao> Can I remove all # fron source.list?
[08:02] <chemicalvamp> yeah rpg would be nice
[08:02] <Luft> daskreech I do have it set to auto hide but when it messes up I can't get it to display.
[08:02] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: Please paste bin it
[08:02] <unix_infidel_> well, the reason i didnt want gaim was because i didnt want another gtk app on my desktop.
[08:02] <unix_infidel_> and trillian is, bloated.
[08:04] <Luft> The only way I can get the kicker back is to rename the .kde directory and restart KDE.  Real painful 'cause I lose all my settings.
[08:04] <dystopianray> chemicalvamp: you should actually try nethack
[08:04] <chemicalvamp> enough with the nethack.. i tried it.. i seen better graphics in a comic book
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Luft: just move the .kde back
[08:04] <bobstro> Luft:  it doesn't come back when you restart KDE?
[08:05] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: copy the contents to the pastebin site and give us back the URL
[08:05] <DaSkreech> !paste | aa
[08:05] <ubotu> aa: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <crazy_penguin> Good morning! Happy Easter to everyone! :)
[08:05] <Luft> But if I move the .kde back the kicker goes away again.
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Luft: Then it's your settings
[08:05] <Luft> It's like something is corrupted.
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Luft: ask in #kde
[08:05] <dystopianray_> Luft: what problem are you having?
[08:06] <bobstro> Luft:  has this happened more than once. do you get it back then it does?
[08:06] <mardi> egoboo runs like a slideshow for me...
[08:06] <Luft> My kicker app panel sometimes disapears and doesn't come back.  It set to auto hide but it doesn't come back sometimes.
[08:06] <dystopianray_> mardi: sounds like you have no 3d acceleration
[08:07] <Luft> It never comes back unless I rename .kde and restart KDE.  It's like some file gets corrupted.
[08:07] <mardi> dystopianray_: that could be it, i've just installed this kubuntu 2 days ago and have yet to mess with the vid card
[08:07] <dystopianray_> mardi: what video card?
[08:07] <bobstro> Luft:  have you tried right-clicking desktop->run and enter kicker?
[08:08] <Luft> Yep, been there done that.  Nothing happens
[08:08] <dystopianray_> Luft: have you tried deleting your kicker config?
[08:08] <Luft> No.  I don't know where to find it.  I just rename the .kde directory.  What is it called?  kicker.conf??
[08:09] <dystopianray_> Luft: ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[08:09] <mardi> dystopianray_: nvidia geforce 2 pro
[08:09] <dystopianray_> mardi: oh, you'll need the legacy nvidia driver
[08:09] <Luft> thanks dystopianray, I'll try that.
[08:09] <mardi> dystopianray_: yeh, it's a bit old :p
[08:11] <dystopianray_> mardi: install nvidia-glx-legacy and change your driver from "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[08:11] <mardi> dystopianray_: ok, i'll do that now
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[08:15] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: I highly recommend you comment out the cdrom line
[08:16] <specialbuddy> just upgraded to feisty and I like it
[08:16] <dystopianray_> yes feisty is very nice
[08:17] <DaSkreech> Yup
[08:17] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: try commenting that out and then do a sudo apt-get update
[08:22] <mardi> dystopianray_: ok, that's done, changed xorg.conf from nv to nvidia, restarting x now, thanks
[08:22] <dystopianray_> mardi: you'll notice the 'nvidia' logo appear when X starts, if it's working
[08:23] <mardi> ok
[08:23] <dystopianray_> mardi: if it doesn't work change back to "nv" and come back here to yell at me
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[08:26] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: You did an update ?
[08:26] <mardi> dystopianray_: caught my monitor on fire!
[08:26] <icecruncher> coud anyone tell me how to find out what version kubuntu I am running?
[08:26] <AmyRose> Oooh, looky! Hobbsee is an op!
[08:27] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: open a konsole and typpe cat /etc/issue
[08:27] <unix_infidel_> has been for quite a while now.
[08:27] <DaSkreech> AmyRose: Yeah I know
[08:27] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: thanks
[08:27] <AmyRose> I mean she's still got her status ;P
[08:27] <dystopianray_> icecruncher: 'cat /etc/lsb-release'
[08:27] <DaSkreech> I was wondering why she's at the  top of my list
[08:27] <Hobbsee> AmyRose: indeed
[08:27] <AmyRose> darn
[08:27] <Hobbsee> hehe
[08:27] <Hobbsee> why?
[08:28] <AmyRose> Hobbsee: Because I always set my channels to auto-op me
[08:28] <Hobbsee> AmyRose: ahhh
[08:28] <mardi> dystopianray_: you happen to know the nvidia gears command to see 3d acceleration fps stuff thingie
[08:28] <aabrahao>  aabrahao: You did an update ?
[08:28] <aabrahao> *
[08:28] <dystopianray_> mardi: there is no specific nvidia gears, run 'glxgears'
 I just sabe the .list ans made a apt
[08:29] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: sudo apt-get update
[08:30] <markc> anyone happen to have a tascam us-122 usb soundcard ?
[08:30] <chx> apt-index-watch is eating all my resources. I did an /etc/init.d/apt-index-watcher stop but wtf
[08:31] <mardi> dystopianray_: hrm, when run glxgears i get:
[08:31] <mardi> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:31] <mardi> Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[08:31] <mardi> eep, sorry
[08:31] <dystopianray_> mardi: did you install nvidia-glx-legacy ?
[08:31] <mardi> dystopianray_: yup
[08:31] <dystopianray_> mardi: did the nvidia logo appear when X started?
[08:32] <mardi> dystopianray_: yup
[08:32] <dystopianray_> mardi: can you grep /var/log/X.0.log for glx related errors?
 update and upgrade, still not found the phpmyadmin
[08:32] <DaSkreech> !info phpmyadmin
[08:32] <ubotu> phpmyadmin: set of PHP-scripts to administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.8.2-0.2 (edgy), package size 3522 kB, installed size 13752 kB
[08:33] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: It's in universe
[08:33] <mardi> dystopianray_: i also show a nvidia-kernel-common installed, will do that command now
[08:33] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14536/
 past the list again
[08:34] <dystopianray_> mardi: pastebin the results of 'grep -i glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Just did
[08:34] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: that's what you should have
[08:37] <mardi> dystopianray_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14537/
[08:37] <mardi> dystopianray_: i guess the composite thing is the prob
[08:37] <dystopianray_> mardi: you have composite enabled?
[08:38] <mardi> dystopianray_: hehe, i really don't know...
[08:38] <dystopianray_> mardi: can you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[08:38] <mardi> l've just installed this 2 days ago and have yet to mess with anything really
[08:38] <mardi> dystopianray_: sure, one tic
[08:40] <mardi> dystopianray_: i've added it to the bottom of the other: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14538/
[08:40] <DaSkreech> Good night all
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14539/ why I can get the package?
[08:42] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: replace your sources.list with that
[08:42] <dystopianray_> mardi: ok, it sounds like X is loading composite by default
[08:42] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: You may need to recomment out the cdrom line
[08:43] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: do a sudo apt-get update again and you should be able to install pphmyadmin
[08:43] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: see the lines that say universe? I uncommented them
[08:43] <DaSkreech> that's why you could not install phpmyadmin
[08:44] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: night
[08:44] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: Night dude
[08:44] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: how are you?
[08:45] <dystopianray_> mardi: can you put this in your xorg.conf, put it at the end, or the start, or anywhere it doesn't matter, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14541/
[08:45] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: quite good, lol, format, now updating to edgy
[08:45] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: nice
[08:45] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: well, happy easter
[08:46] <DaSkreech> icecruncher: Sure why not? :)
[08:46] <mardi> dystopianray_: done, i'll try it again, thanks! :)
[08:46] <icecruncher> lol
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Hmm gaim is dead Long live pidgin
[08:49] <icecruncher> DaSkreech: pidgin? that a clien?
[08:49] <icecruncher> *client
[08:50] <DaSkreech> Yeah gaim is dead
[08:50] <DaSkreech> http://gaim.sf.net
[08:50] <icecruncher> sob
[08:51] <DaSkreech> They just changed the name. Buck up
[08:51] <DaSkreech>  AOL sued them out of the nest it seems
[08:51] <icecruncher> haha, used to use that in my windows days
[08:52] <mardi> dystopianray_: that worked!
[08:52] <icecruncher> wish they'd change the interface a bit
[08:52] <mardi> dystopianray_: i can now glxgears
[08:53] <dystopianray_> mardi: excellent
[08:54] <mardi> i can't run fgl_glxgears, is there a nvidia equivilant?
 now is geting phpmyadmin. Why it happened
[08:55] <dystopianray_> mardi: not that I know of
[08:55] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: you didn't have universe turned on
[08:55] <DaSkreech> !universe | aabrahao
[08:55] <ubotu> aabrahao: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:55] <dystopianray_> mardi: run this 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[08:55] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: read that
[08:55] <DaSkreech> aabrahao: I have to go now. Glad you got your packages :)
[08:55] <Vincent_k> I want to format my creative muvo but I'm not sure how to.. any suggestions?
[08:55] <mardi> dystopianray_: direct rendering: Yes
[08:56] <dystopianray_> mardi: ok, so your 3d acceleration should be fine
[08:56] <mardi> dystopianray_: yay! thanks much :)
[08:56] <mardi> i'll try egoboo again :p
[08:56] <dystopianray_> Vincent_k: formatting it may break it, if it depends on an existing directory structure and preexisting files
[08:56] <DaSkreech> mardi: Night!
[08:56] <Vincent_k> I,ts an 512mb flash type player
[08:57] <icecruncher> !update
[08:57] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:57] <dystopianray_> Vincent_k: if you're sure that formatting it will still allow it to work you can use mdosfs on it
[08:57] <dystopianray_> Vincent_k: mkdosfs
[08:58] <Iwonder|too> anyone tried a rt2600 pcmia wireless card?
[08:58] <Vincent_k> yeah I read about it but I'm not sure about the actual commands
[08:58] <icecruncher> how can you install rpm's in debian?
[08:58] <mardi> dystopianray_: egoboo works great now, thanks!
[08:58] <icecruncher> (kubuntu)
[08:58] <MuJ> alien
[08:58] <Vincent_k> I want to make a fat32 format
[08:59] <mardi> DaSkreech: good night
[08:59] <icecruncher> MuJ: alien? as in alien name.rpm?
[08:59] <dystopianray_> Vincent_k: find out what device node it is, then $ sudo mkdosfs -v -F 32 /dev/blah
[09:00] <Vincent_k> ok I'll try it out thanks
[09:00] <MuJ> alien --to-deb file
[09:00] <MuJ> dpkg -i file.deb
[09:00] <icecruncher> k
[09:01] <MuJ> man alien tells more :)
[09:02] <aabrahao> so thank you a lot! your are very good and know a lot!
[09:03] <ScottLij> why when I try to run eclipse it tells me that "No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations:  /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java"?
[09:04] <MuJ> wild guess... there's no java virtual machine in /usr/lib/blahblah?
[09:04] <ScottLij> why would it be looking there?
[09:05] <Iwonder|too> thats the normal location for sun java?
[09:05] <ScottLij> then why does "java -version" work?
[09:06] <Iwonder|too> because maybe its not in normal location(ie. the locAtion it would be installed from the website)
[09:06] <MuJ> it's in the other place in your path
[09:06] <Iwonder|too> each distro seems to have ideas of where "normal" is
[09:08] <gabrield> Anybody know if there are .debs for xloadtime? Or a way of fixing the .rpm or source for x86_64?
[09:14] <icecruncher> could anyone give their opinion on which encoder is better  (lame, ogg, flac)?
[09:16] <sonoftheclayr> i love all the kernel upgrades in feisty! recompiling the wireless drivers and finding out that tty flickers and moves around, or maybe that was the bios flash? fun, fun, fun!
[09:20] <Borninfire> Hello from Dallas
[09:20] <ScottLij> I downloaded the jdk1.6.0 binary from the sun website and unpacked it, now how to I install it where it needs to be?
[09:21] <icecruncher> ScottLij: run the installr, you choose during install
[09:21] <Iwonder|too> or symlink it
[09:21] <Borninfire> www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml  <-- Install package instructions
[09:21] <ScottLij> I did:  ./jd2k-whatever.bin   and it just made a new folder on the desktop
[09:21] <icecruncher> sudo?
[09:22] <Borninfire> At the terminal: Type:
[09:22] <ScottLij> ah
[09:22] <Borninfire>  su
[09:22] <Borninfire> Enter the root password.
[09:22] <Borninfire> Change to the directory in which you want to install. Type:
[09:22] <Borninfire>  cd <directory path name>
[09:22] <Borninfire>  For example, to install the software in the /usr/java/ directory, Type:
[09:22] <Borninfire>  cd /usr/java/
[09:22] <Borninfire> Change the permission of the file you downloaded to be executable. Type:
[09:22] <Borninfire>  chmod a+x jre-1_5_0-linux-i586.bin
[09:22] <Borninfire> Verify that you have permission to execute the file. Type:
[09:22] <Borninfire>  ls -l
[09:22] <icecruncher> Borninfire: not everyone has su
[09:22] <icecruncher> lol
[09:22] <Borninfire> use equivalent
[09:23] <icecruncher> yup
[09:23] <ScottLij> Eclipse is looking in the /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/bin/java directory
[09:23] <Borninfire> just use this link, follow the steps
[09:23] <ScottLij> how do I make it look in the 1.6 directory?
[09:23] <Borninfire> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml
[09:24] <ScottLij> that page has no instructions on how to use 1.6 if it's looking in the 1.4 directory
[09:24] <icecruncher> just wondering, is anybody trying thunderbird 2 beta out yet?
[09:24] <Borninfire> sub your directories, youve at least got to be that clever
[09:24] <unix_infidel> why thunderbird when you can use evolution :P
[09:25] <ScottLij> hmm
[09:25] <Borninfire> neither has a good backup system
[09:25] <Borninfire> or archival etc
[09:25] <ScottLij> why when I got to / it only has home and media?
[09:25] <icecruncher> lol
[09:25] <ScottLij> I opened konquerer with the sudo command
[09:25] <se7en> lspci |grep VGA   gives me this 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1) in monitor+display i have nv driver and graphics card do i need nvidia driver and where do i get the right one
[09:26] <pureStylezz> Hey... i just installed kubuntu but my user/pass isnt working..
[09:26] <icecruncher> how about kmail?
[09:26] <Borninfire> always a pain, you might try the nvidia forums, i always recommend a virtual machine if youre having video issues
[09:26] <Borninfire> fuck troubleshoot
[09:27] <pureStylezz> any way to get it back?
[09:27] <icecruncher> pureStylezz: no, don't think so
[09:27] <ScottLij> remember your user and password?
[09:27] <pureStylezz> lol
[09:27] <Borninfire> not really worth it, easier to reinstall
[09:27] <Borninfire> install is fast
[09:27] <pureStylezz> its the good one.. im pretty sure.
[09:27] <pureStylezz> its just isnt working :/
[09:27] <Borninfire> reload
[09:27] <Borninfire> =) youll be back in 10 minutes
[09:28] <ScottLij> how do I see the other folders in konqueror? theres only home and media in /
[09:28] <unix_infidel> anyone know if its possible to make naim use non unicode chars?
[09:29] <Borninfire> kmail doesnt have a good archival system either. . there are several packages for linux, however that do support simple conversion to more common formats, such as PST or NSF.
[09:29] <Borninfire> if thats important to you. . .
[09:29] <Borninfire> i dont think so infidel
[09:29] <unix_infidel> i wish they would make an outlook port for nix.
[09:29] <Borninfire> you can use eudora i think?
[09:29] <unix_infidel> even something similar to entourage.
[09:29] <Borninfire> pine?
[09:30] <Borninfire> yah, entourage is compatible with simple mailbox conversion
[09:30] <Borninfire> its a decent client
[09:30] <Borninfire> i wanna add OSX to my virtual machine library at some point
[09:30] <Borninfire> gotta find a good download
[09:30] <se7en> anybody i need help with 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1) where do i get the right driver
[09:31] <unix_infidel> os x in vm isnt that great.
[09:31] <unix_infidel> actually unless i'm running an os x critical app i prefer nix or windows.
[09:31] <Borninfire> I could always unpack it to a partition if i liked it
[09:32] <hannesduck> hi
[09:32] <Borninfire> yeah i hear its nice for a few things, the shell first of all, and Ive been told its got really good wireless / bluetooth and USB / firewire support.
[09:32] <Borninfire> not really highlights of a VM environment =)
[09:36] <Luft> anyone know anything about the new vb.net compiler in mono 1.2.3?
[09:37] <ScottLij> how do you rename a folder?
[09:39] <Luft> Scott are you trying to rename a folder in a shell ?
[09:39] <ScottLij> yes
[09:39] <Linux_Galore> mv file_old  file_new
[09:39] <Luft> yep, like Galore said
[09:40] <ScottLij> scott@scott-desktop:/$ mv /usr/lib/jdk1.6.0/ /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/
[09:40] <ScottLij> mv: target `/usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[09:41] <Luft> leave off the ending '/'
[09:41] <Luft> mv /usr/lib/jdk1.6.0 /usr/lib/j2sdk1.4-sun
[09:42] <Luft> I'm assuming jdk1.6.0 is a file and you want to rename it to j2sdk1.4-sun
[09:42] <ScottLij> its a folder
[09:42] <ScottLij> how do I delete a folder that isn't empty?
[09:43] <Luft> rm -Rf <folder name>  be real careful
[09:43] <Luft> You can delete your entire file system if you have root priv.
[09:43] <unix_infidel> why not just move to a .trash file and have something automatically delete any file/folder older than N days.
[09:44] <Linux_Galore> hmm Gaim is now called Pidgin
[09:44] <unix_infidel> that's usually what i alias too.
[09:44] <Linux_Galore> http://pidgin.im/
[09:44] <ScottLij> hmm
[09:44] <ScottLij> for some reason it also deleted the other java directory
[09:44] <ScottLij> nm, I know what happened
[09:46] <unix_infidel> ScottLij: most likely symlinked :P
[09:46] <unix_infidel> told you to be careful.
[09:47] <ScottLij> I moved it and didn't copy it
[09:47] <ScottLij> so I did'nt know why two directories were deleted instead of the one I intended to
[09:47] <ScottLij> so no biggie
[09:50] <ScottLij> bah
[09:50] <ScottLij> went through all that work and Eclipse doesn't like java 1.6
[09:51] <Luft> What do you program in?  Java? C#?
[09:51] <ScottLij> mostly Java
[09:51] <ScottLij> some C
[09:51] <Luft> have you tried Netbeans?
[09:51] <ScottLij> it loaded the 2nd time I tried it, weird
[09:51] <Luft> A great IDE
[09:52] <Luft> I like netbeans because it has a drag and drop forms editor that isn't retarded.
[09:53] <vecco> Hi, How in Kubuntu install using "sudo apt-get install" - Kadu ? When I write "sudo apt-get install kadu"and enter my password... "Doesn't exists ibqt3c102-mt and libssl0.9.7" How Can I install this packages... In Adept i see that these packages is installed...
[09:53] <_Johny> Hello guys. Do you know a VOIP program for Linux which works either on windows and linux, and uses a webcam?
[09:54] <PF-Away> _Johny: take a pick on kde-apps.org
[09:54] <_Johny> ok
[09:55] <_Johny> But It isn't neccesary for the program to be KDE comaptible - It can be just a good app for linux at all
[09:55] <ScottLij> eclipse isn't liking the way I configured it
[09:55] <ScottLij> doesn't even want to suggest completions
[09:55] <PF-Away> _Johny: KDE apps are good apps;)
[09:56] <_Johny> PF-Away: I0m going to try then:)
[09:56] <Luft> Scott have you considered using netbeans as your Java IDE?
[09:56] <JackPhil> could any can post something to vox.com
[09:56] <PF-Away> ScottLij: tried Kate?
[09:56] <vecco> How in kubuntu install libqt3c102-mt and libssl0.9.7 !!
[09:56] <PF-Away> ;)
[09:56] <ScottLij> I've used netbeans once before, but that was a year and a half ago
[09:56] <ScottLij> has it improved since then?
[09:57] <Luft> Im learning how to use it.  It really rocks.  Drag and drop forms etc.
[09:58] <vecco> Anybody know? :((
[09:58] <Luft> Probably not vecco.  Sorry...
[09:59] <Luft> It sounds like you don't have a repository with those libs
[10:00] <PF-Away> !info libssl0.9.7
[10:00] <PF-Away> !info libssl
[10:00] <ubotu> libssl0.9.7: SSL shared libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7k-3 (edgy), package size 2228 kB, installed size 5184 kB
[10:00] <ubotu> Package libssl does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:00] <vecco> Yesterday I've installed Kubuntu ver.6.0.6 LTS and I wanna install Kadu and FireFox using "sudo apt-get install" but I can't.. 1 year ago when I had Kubuntu my friend installing these apps using apt-get install and It works ... :(( Please Help.
[10:01] <PF-Away> vecco: why use apt-get?
[10:01] <PF-Away> vecco: just use adept
[10:01] <pureStylezz> WOOT
[10:01] <vecco> In Adept was the same error... Doesn;t exists libqt.. and libssl..
[10:01] <pureStylezz> kubuntu works very well
[10:01] <pureStylezz> :D
[10:02] <PF-Away> vecco: try to update
[10:02] <vecco> how?
[10:02] <pureStylezz> lol
[10:02] <pureStylezz> kubuntu > ubuntu imo
[10:02] <pureStylezz> :D
[10:02] <vecco> I forget all about it
[10:02] <PF-Away> vecco: in adept manager
[10:03] <PF-Away> vecco: click on "Fetch Updates"
[10:03] <vecco> It's diabled
[10:03] <vecco> Ok
[10:03] <vecco> done
[10:03] <PF-Away> vecco: try again
[10:03] <Snowman> stupid question perhaps, but how do I get the system tray to go back to 2 rows of icons instead of 1.  it's getting crowded on that panel.
[10:04] <PF-Away> Snowman: try asking in #kde if noone answers here
[10:05] <vecco> Hmm... When I click "Request Install" (Kadu) then Requested : Break (installation)
[10:05] <vecco> BREAK (install)*
[10:06] <PF-Away> vecco: try running "sudo aptitude install kadu" in the konsole, then
[10:06] <vecco> ok
[10:06] <vecco>  Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:06] <PF-Away> vecco: you must close Adept Manager first
[10:06] <Snowman> you have to exit the gui install/remove app first
[10:07] <vecco> yep
[10:07] <Snowman> yeah, adept.  that's the one :P
[10:07] <vecco> w8
[10:07] <vecco> Unable to resolve dependencies!  Giving up...
[10:07] <vecco> Abort.
[10:07] <vecco> and the same errors with doesn;t exists following packages
[10:07] <PF-Away> vecco: try "sudo apt-get install kadu"
[10:08] <vecco> It doesn;t works
[10:09] <vecco> I've read Kadu documentation and Install Help and I doing that... But IT DOESN'T WORK.. :((
[10:09] <PF-Away> !info kadu
[10:09] <vecco> PL:
[10:09] <vecco> Nastpujce pakiety maj niespenione zalenoci:
[10:09] <vecco>   kadu: Wymaga: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3) ale nie da si go zainstalowa
[10:09] <vecco>         Wymaga: libssl0.9.7 ale nie da si go zainstalowa
[10:09] <vecco> E: Pakiety s bdne
[10:09] <ubotu> Package kadu does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[10:10] <vecco> Polish :P
[10:10] <PF-Away> ah, ok;)
[10:17] <ProvoliK> Hi
[10:17] <PF-Away> !hi | ProvoliK
[10:18] <ubotu> ProvoliK: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:18] <ProvoliK> I am trying to install my NVIDIA graphic card
[10:18] <ProvoliK> maybe I need some help :-\
[10:19] <PF-Away> !envy | ProvoliK
[10:19] <ubotu> ProvoliK: envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[10:19] <ProvoliK> Sorry, I have feisty
[10:19] <ProvoliK> I tried envy but it says that it is not supported
[10:21] <erz-> hi back
[10:21] <crazyrobot> how do you ping an address on a specific port?
[10:22] <crazyrobot> i just want to know if a remote port is open or not
[10:22] <marin> hello
[10:22] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: just sudo nmap <host>
[10:22] <crazyrobot> thanks
[10:23] <crazyrobot> just curious, how many people here run linux on an iMac?
[10:24] <ProvoliK> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.htm <-- page not found
[10:25] <PF-Away> !remember eny is envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. This software is NOT supported by ubuntu and you will not receive aid for it here. More at http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html See !nvidia and !nvidia9
[10:25] <vadim_> hi2all
[10:26] <Marin> nobody speak French here ?
[10:27] <erz-> oui
[10:27] <PF-Away> !fr | Marin
[10:27] <ubotu> Marin: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:29] <pureStylez> :D
[10:29] <PF-Away> :D
[10:37] <crazyrobot> anybody here part of fsf?
[10:37] <PF-Away> tried #fsf ?
[10:38] <crazyrobot> nope, i was curious if anybody here is part of it.  i'd rather be here, i don't like their whole badvista.org campaign.
[10:40] <PF-Away> why not?
[10:41] <PF-Away> it's important that people know what they're buying
[10:42] <_Johny> Is there any hotplug for usb devices available in Kubuntu?
[10:42] <PF-Away> _Johny: if I understand you correctly, yes, but ask in #kubuntu
[10:42] <PF-Away> *u
[10:42] <_Johny> ;)
[10:42] <crazyrobot> that is important, but i'm not one for this whole microsoft, linux, mac war.  each one has their place.  i absolutely will never use anything but linux my whole life.  but the way most people go about the war is very child like.
[10:42] <PF-Away> _Johny: what do you mean?
[10:43] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: badvista isn't part of a OS "war"
[10:43] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: it's about DRM
[10:43] <crazyrobot> people already know, there was a study going, about vista and xp, and 90% or so of people aren't upgrading to vista, they have no need.
[10:44] <_Johny> I mean - a deamon which monitors all what you do with usb devices (plugging) then manage all the permissions by itself so you don't have to change your /dev permissions, which is more secure
[10:44] <crazyrobot> i don't want anybody to run vista.  i think its funny that samba doesn't work with it.  but old version of the protocal like xp, work with it, that means they targeted linux.
[10:45] <crazyrobot> _Johny: there is, but i can't think of what its called... go to sourceforge.net and do a search for usb.
[10:45] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: they don't just target linux, they target all competitors
[10:45] <PF-Away> _Johny: i still don't understand;)
[10:45] <PF-Away> udev?
[10:45] <_Johny> I was told it's called just "hotplug" but so far haven't found it in the repos
[10:46] <crazyrobot> well in proprietary software who doesn't?  steve jobs is WAY worse than microsoft.
[10:46] <crazyrobot> he is one of the main subjects in a book called how to deal with assholes.
[10:46] <_Johny> PF-Away: somethinkg like that, I'd say :)
[10:47] <_Johny> PF-Away: what you don't understand?
[10:47] <crazyrobot> he takes a common peice of technology or hardware, changes it enough to convince people mac came out with it, and then sells it for at least twice as much as other people.
[10:47] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: have you read about how Microsoft got where they are today?
[10:47] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: in my book, Apple is like angels, compared to Microsoft
[10:47] <erz-> Omg i love kubuntu, thx god ! My laptop card reader is recognized and i can read my MS without install anything
[10:48] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: Apple actually uses and supports open standardss
[10:48] <PF-Away> (like XML, OpenGL, etc.)
[10:48] <PF-Away> erz-: :D
[10:48] <_Johny> erz-: :)
[10:48] <crazyrobot> you mean like stealing things from linux like kde, and linux, yes the kernel is written from Mach linux which Linus Torvalds told steve jobs not to use.  and then calls it their own.
[10:49] <crazyrobot> they don't support open standards, try to get a mp4 or m4a from an apple machine and run it on any other machine.
[10:49] <crazyrobot> doesn't work.
[10:49] <crazyrobot> even on an imac asks for a password.
[10:49] <erz-> ^^'
[10:49] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: ?
[10:49] <crazyrobot> steve jobs is all money, where bill gates a couple of months ago, talked about stepping down, and donated billions of dollars to his and his wife organization.
[10:49] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: they use some parts from BSD in their kernel
[10:50] <_Johny> crazyrobot: what organization?
[10:50] <crazyrobot> check out a book called, Just for Fun, its the biography/autobiography of linus torvalds.
[10:50] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: which they are entitled to, according to the BSD license
[10:50] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: do you know how much more money Bill Gates has?
[10:50] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: afaik, he has more money now that Steve Jobs will get in a long time
[10:50] <HessiaNerd> hello
[10:51] <_Johny> HessiaNerd: hello
[10:51] <PF-Away> crazyrobot: and Apple actually invented a lot of the concepts in all modern desktops
[10:51] <HessiaNerd> anyone have advice for a linux newb thinking of switching from gnome?
[10:51] <crazyrobot> well obviously, bill gates has been doing it longer, and what i mean by that is steve jobs was stupid enough to get fired from his own company for a couple years.
[10:51] <crazyrobot> actually the original desktop of macintosh was developed my Xerox, years, and years ago.
[10:52] <crazyrobot> just for fun, the story of an accidental revolutionary.
[10:52] <HessiaNerd> specifically, Id like a _good_ CAD program and Beryl looks nifty
[10:54] <HessiaNerd> anyone here use beryl? or is it more for gnome?...
[10:55] <DarkMageZ> HessiaNerd, it's for both.
[10:56] <HessiaNerd> DarkMageZ: excelent! How, bout a program for syncing music with my Creative Zen?
[10:58] <HessiaNerd> I'm trying to justify switching from gnome to KDE... I would rather not have both.  I guess I just worry about clutter and funky dependency issues
[10:59] <icecruncher> HessiaNerd: lol, i did that, lot's of junk, decided to reformat and clean install
[11:01] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: yea... I tried it for about two days.... just seems messy to me. You prefer KDE? I stuck with gnome, mostly cause thats the install CD I have and my internet connection bloz
[11:01] <wolferine> anyone watch the UFC?
[11:01] <icecruncher> HessiaNerd: yeah, i used the kde cd. lol
[11:02] <HessiaNerd> wolferine: kinda weak.... that lightweight fight with garcia and ... whatshisname was pretty good tho
[11:02] <wolferine> but GSP LOST!!/
[11:03] <wolferine> i couldnt believe it!?
[11:03] <HessiaNerd> it wasnt even that good of a fight...
[11:04] <HessiaNerd> he slipped up a bit, and got knocked DOWN...  I guess theres just not much room for error in those title bouts
[11:06] <HessiaNerd> iecruncher: yea, I just convinced my brother to get both install CDs for 7.04 for me...  I'm just debating which one to actually install
[11:07] <HessiaNerd> anyone here use CAD?
[11:07] <S-Angeli> Hi, I have an external FireWire hd I wish to connect to my kubuntu to backup my entire system. What should I do? When I will plug it in, will it be recognized as "my USB device" and will appear to my desktop or do I have to prepare something before?
[11:08] <stamen> hi
[11:08] <HessiaNerd> S-Angeli: is it really firewire only?
[11:08] <stamen> can somebody give me a link for w32codecs which are working normaly
[11:08] <S-Angeli> no, it does also have usb but I would prefer to use firewire if possible, as know being a bit faster
[11:08] <stamen> please
[11:09] <stamen> I want to download them, I can;t find working mirror for them
[11:11] <S-Angeli> HessiaNerd, ?
[11:12] <S-Angeli> well must go now. Am in a hurry. will ask later on .
[11:12] <S-Angeli> thks for now
[11:14] <HessiaNerd> doh
[11:15] <HessiaNerd> didnt have an answer anyway...
[11:17] <HessiaNerd> so can anyone comment on gnomad, graphiteone / CAD, or the beatdown that happened in UFC tonight?
[11:18] <HessiaNerd> pr0n?
[11:19] <HessiaNerd> I knew a Spawn, he was a crazy ninja/peruvian
[11:19] <HessiaNerd> ninjaed his way into Disneyland....
[11:20] <HessiaNerd> would kick your ass if you called him mexican
[11:20] <icecruncher> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[11:20] <icecruncher> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[11:20] <icecruncher>         LANGUAGE = "en_AU:en",
[11:20] <icecruncher>         LC_ALL = (unset),
[11:20] <icecruncher>         LANG = "en_AU.UTF-8"
[11:20] <icecruncher>     are supported and installed on your system.
[11:20] <icecruncher> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[11:20] <icecruncher> what the heck does that mean
[11:20] <icecruncher> ?
[11:20] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: you from australia?
[11:20] <icecruncher> no
[11:20] <icecruncher> lol
[11:21] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: Peru perhaps?
[11:21] <chijin> my locale is en_AU too for some reason, and i'm in finland
[11:21] <spawn57> what's the aussie locale like?
[11:21] <spawn57> is it full of swear words?
[11:21] <HessiaNerd> yea, like struth aus, and crikey
[11:22] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: change to US or GB english... that _might_ help...
[11:22] <smile> hi linuxuans
[11:23] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: and stop being a socialist
[11:23] <HessiaNerd> hello smile
[11:23] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: jk ;)
[11:23] <smile> my problem is with openoffice in gnome .. i cant see icons .. no problem under kde !!
[11:23] <smile> any help plz ?
[11:23] <HessiaNerd> smile: dont use gnome?
[11:24] <icecruncher> HessiaNerd: heck, i never put it to australia
[11:24] <smile> HessiaNerd: i use both gnome and kde
[11:24] <smile> HessiaNerd: this problm is under gnome only !!
[11:24] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: try to change it?
[11:24] <smile> HessiaNerd: maybe a problem with gtk
[11:24] <icecruncher> how, it is in perl no?
[11:26] <HessiaNerd> icecruncher: what program is this from?
[11:26] <icecruncher> I'm updating the system to edgy, and i got billion of those
[11:27] <usamahashimi> i am having a problem, i have a hard disk and a usb flash drive, when i attached them with my system, the system is giving input/output error, can anyone guide me that how can i fix them?
[11:27] <HessiaNerd> smile: well most likely gtk... Im not a freferent supporter of gnome at this point.
[11:32] <jaaroo> hello there. I have a set of disks and some of them were formerly part of raid array. Is it somehow possible to detect which disks were part of which raid array?
[11:35] <HessiaNerd> AWAY
[11:43] <kraut> moin
[11:43] <HessiaNerd> wie ghets
[11:46] <icecruncher> where can you see teh install log errors?
[11:47] <wolferine> did you google it?
[11:49] <icecruncher> no
[11:50] <ubuntu_> i have a problem
[11:50] <ubuntu_> when i try to install kubuntu, it shows my sata disks in the wonr order
[11:50] <ubuntu_> |wrong
[11:51] <hannesduck> hi
[11:51] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:51] <hannesduck> where can i the 3d efects activate?
[11:52] <ubuntu_> i don't know, i need help myself
[11:52] <wolferine> ubuntu_, what do you mean, wrong order?
[11:53] <ubuntu_> well, sda and sdb are supposed to be sdc and sdd
[11:53] <ubuntu_> and vice versa
[11:53] <ubuntu_> i tried installing, but it looks like it confuses both win2k and bios then
[11:53] <wolferine> jumpers setup properly?
[11:53] <ubuntu_> grub returns error 15
[11:54] <ubuntu_> oh yea, jumpers are right
[11:54] <smile> hi .. how long can I take to upgrade my Dapper ?
[11:54] <ubuntu_> the disks that are supposed to be sdc and sdd are connected to a pci/controller
[11:55] <ubuntu_> while the other two are connected to the mb
[11:57] <ubuntu_> when i install windows, i can choose the order of the disk, just install the drivers in a different order
[12:00] <ubuntu_> i dont need to get the disks in the right order, i just need for them to cooperate
[12:01] <ubuntu_> as it is now, what linux thinks is sda is in reality sdc, which makes problems for grub
[12:02] <icecruncher> smile: depends on internet speeds
[12:02] <icecruncher> smile: 100 kbts about 3 hours for download
[12:02] <smile> icecruncher: i have DSL connexion (128ko) and i can reach 15 kb download speed
[12:03] <icecruncher> devide 100 by 15 and multiply by 3
[12:03] <icecruncher> lol
[12:04] <smile> icecruncher: 20h :-(
[12:04] <icecruncher> sob
[12:04] <icecruncher> try start in the evening, then let it runn over night
[12:05] <ubuntu_> or start when you wake up, and let it run until you go to bed
[12:05] <icecruncher> lol
[12:05] <ubuntu_> although 20h is a bit linger than that
[12:05] <Blissex> ubuntu_: unfortunately the only correct way to do that is to use volume IDs and LILO.
[12:05] <ubuntu_> *longer
[12:05] <ubuntu_> lilo you say
[12:06] <ubuntu_> how can i make the installer use lilo instead of grub then_
[12:07] <Blissex> ubuntu_: after you installed...
[12:07] <ubuntu_> :P
[12:08] <icecruncher> smile: then after download it takes a few more min's for installing
[12:08] <Blissex> ubuntu_: anyhow perhaps you can fix things a bit by moving around cards or cables. But the order in which peripherals are discovered/listed is essentially arbitrary, even if you can wing it sometimes.
[12:08] <ubuntu_> no, the only way i can arrange the order is to install the drivers in a different order
[12:08] <smile> icecruncher: can i do it and cut then continue other time
[12:09] <icecruncher> no, never try that
[12:09] <Blissex> ubuntu_: you main problem is that GRUB uses BIOS order (0x80/0x81/... etc.) and the Linux kernel uses what is in essence PCI order.
[12:09] <ubuntu_> sda and sdb are connected to the mb, and sdc and sdd are connected to a pci-controller
[12:10] <ubuntu_> during win2k install, i need to supply 2 drivers, one for mb and one for pci
[12:10] <icecruncher> smile: is that your average download spee with win or dapper?
[12:10] <icecruncher> *speed
[12:10] <smile> icecruncher: both
[12:11] <oyvind> how do i enable vncserver on kde?
[12:11] <ubuntu_> if i change the order i install the drivers in, i can change the order of the disk pairs
[12:11] <icecruncher> !vnc
[12:11] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[12:12] <ubuntu_> the problem is that if i rewire, windows will be confused instead, and that leaves me here again
[12:12] <ubuntu_> or ms-forums, in that case
[12:12] <icecruncher> lol
[12:14] <ubuntu_> i was hoping i could mount the linux-partition after install, and modify some of the files to make it work
[12:15] <ubuntu_> if not im gonna have to choose another distro that doesnt cause problems, although i tried both fedora and pclos with no luck so far
[12:15] <icecruncher> what is pclos ?
[12:16] <ubuntu_> they get the disks right, but pclos refuses to boot, and fc6 is so full of bugs i tore my hair out getting tvout to work, only to find out that in order to get wine to work, i had to do it over again
[12:16] <SSJ_GZ> icecruncher: PCLinuxOS, I would guess.
[12:16] <ubuntu_> yep
[12:16] <Blissex> ubuntu_: MS Windows can be un-confused by using dangerous editing tricks.
[12:17] <ubuntu_> problem is that grub is the most confused
[12:17] <ubuntu_> i can easily get windows working
[12:17] <Blissex> ubuntu_ I have written about this very issues some docs in my blog, wait a sec. It is much more subtle than you think it is.
[12:21] <sdf_> i want the method to install any program in kubuntu    i entered  adept and make search and it be found new packages i want install it how can i install it?????????/
[12:23] <sdf_> helpppppppppppppppp
[12:23] <ubuntu_> if i use the command line install, can i make kubuntu run lilo instead of grub_
[12:25] <ubuntu_> sdf_: im not too sure, but i think its "apt-get install <program name>", i used yum and rpm myself until yesterday
[12:25] <union> hi
[12:25] <sdf_> i m try
[12:25] <sdf_> anyway thank you
[12:26] <ubuntu_> np
[12:29] <sdf_> ubuntu:i write apt-get install<laffer> in konsole
[12:30] <sdf_> i had syntax error
[12:30] <ubuntu_> if im not wrong
[12:30] <ubuntu_> hmm
[12:30] <vecco> Hi, everyone
[12:30] <ubuntu_> if you check the faq for your distro, im pretty sure it says there
[12:31] <ubuntu_> sdf_ you are not supposed to type the <> by the way
[12:31] <sdf_> how?
[12:32] <vecco> I've reinstalled Kubuntu and I have the same problem with "sudo apt-get install" ... I've tested this command on Kubuntu booted from CD and it worked but if I installed on Hard Drive and Boot from Disk,... I cannot use command "apt-get" ... I connecting with internet by Router (Asmax) ... Please Help Me ! :] 
[12:33] <ubuntu_> im really not too sure on the command myself, i used yum and rpm myself until yesterday
[12:34] <vecco> I try everything methods installing Kadu or other apps... and I can't
[12:35] <ubuntu_> you usually have to be a root user to install, have you tried to sudo?
[12:35] <vecco> I tried sudo.. :[
[12:35] <vecco> I always add sudo before
[12:35] <vecco> usually :p
[12:36] <vecco> I have a Pl language..
[12:36] <vecco> ;p
[12:36] <vecco> meybe whos Pl
[12:36] <vecco> E: Nie udao si otworzy pliku blokady /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:36] <vecco> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[12:36] <vecco> vecco@vecco-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install firefox
[12:36] <vecco> Password:
[12:36] <vecco> Czytanie list pakietw... Gotowe
[12:37] <vecco> Budowanie drzewa zalenoci... Gotowe
[12:37] <vecco> Pakiet firefox nie ma dostpnej wersji, ale odnosi si do niego inny pakiet.
[12:37] <vecco> Zazwyczaj oznacza to, e pakietu brakuje, zosta zastpiony przez inny
[12:37] <vecco> pakiet lub nie jest dostpny przy pomocy obecnie ustawionych rde.
[12:37] <vecco> Jednak nastpujce pakiety go zastpuj:
[12:37] <vecco>   libnss3
[12:37] <vecco> E: Pakiet firefox nie ma kandydata do instalacji
[12:37] <vecco> i can translate it to English..
[12:39] <sdf_> how can i use rpm in kubuntu?
[12:39] <ubuntu_> im not sure if you can
[12:39] <wolferine> wait wait wait
[12:39] <wolferine> vecco what language?
[12:39] <digitx> im installl gentoo (soon)
[12:39] <digitx> ;)
[12:39] <ubuntu_> it is a redhat/fedora thing
[12:39] <wolferine> sdf_, you dont
[12:40] <wolferine> vecco google the ubuntu guide
[12:40] <vecco>   E It has not managed to open file of blockade / var/lib/dpkg/lock 13 - ( ) open Permission denied E it ( / / ) Unable lock the administration directory var/lib/dpkg, are you root? vecco@vecco-laptop ~ $ sudo apt-get install firefox Password Reading letter of (list of) package. Ready construction of tree of dependence. Does not have package ready available version firefox, but other package concerns for it (him). Usually it means, that it scan
[12:40] <vecco> er package or it is not available with the aid of presently put sources. However, they substitute following (step) package him (it) libnss3 E does not have package for installation candidate firefox
[12:40] <vecco> in EN
[12:40] <wolferine> vecco
[12:40] <wolferine> you nned to stop pasting so much
[12:40] <vecco> ok
[12:41] <sdf_> is the redhaat better than kubuntu?
[12:41] <wolferine> what are you trying to do?
[12:41] <wolferine> sdf_, kinda insulting to ask that kinda question in here
[12:41] <vecco> I tried install kadu by: sudo apt-get install Kadu, by Adept
[12:42] <wolferine> kadu
[12:42] <ubuntu_> sdf_, i dont know, i had a lot of problems with setting up Fedora Core 6, but i didn't get kubuntu running at all
[12:42] <sdf_> kinda=???????????
[12:42] <vecco> yep.
[12:42] <wolferine> never heard of it
[12:42] <vecco> and FireFox
[12:42] <wolferine> vecco, what are you using as a reference?
[12:42] <vecco> I didn't use..
[12:43] <wolferine> vecco, use the ubuntu guide (google it)
[12:43] <ubuntu_> hmmm
[12:43] <ubuntu_> found something on the net
[12:43] <sdf_> ubuntu:please give me the complete method to install new programs
[12:43] <wolferine> that will help you to install firefox
[12:43] <ubuntu_> gonna try to get this thing working now
[12:43] <ubuntu_> later all
[12:43] <sdf_> untill now i don t know how i can?
[12:44] <wolferine> sdf_, less talk, more listen
[12:44] <vecco> Plz tell me how to install firefox by sudo apt-get
[12:44] <vecco> and tell me how I have to do
[12:44] <sdf_> wolf:what do you mean?
[12:45] <vecco> hmm... plz w8 May I have find the answer..
[12:45] <wolferine> vecco, can you read?
[12:46] <wolferine> try google
[12:46] <wolferine> you will find it all, easy
[12:46] <sdf_> p
[12:47] <vecco> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   < Why It doesn't work? "gedit"
[12:47] <sdf_> wolferine:can i know how old are you?
[12:48] <intelikey> vecco cause it's not installed ?
[12:48] <vecco> 15
[12:48] <wolferine> sdf_, maybe you might want to consider check there on somethings first
[12:48] <wolferine> as its a great resource
[12:49] <vecco> I have to know why sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't work... It;s from Ubuntu guide..
[12:49] <sdf_> no
[12:49] <intelikey> vecco i told you because it's not installed
[12:50] <vecco> then... How I can use this command... I have to update my repositories
[12:50] <intelikey> vecco gedit is a gnome app   use a kde app seeing that you have kde rather than gnome.
[12:51] <wolferine> good point
[12:51] <intelikey> vecco kate is installed.
[12:51] <vecco> how open sources.list file in Kubuntu?
[12:51] <wolferine> vecco, more reading
[12:51] <vecco> But I can't save this file
[12:51] <intelikey> !sudo
[12:51] <wolferine> he gave you tha answer
[12:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:51] <intelikey> !kdesu
[12:51] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[12:51] <wolferine> !nano
[12:51] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[12:51] <wolferine> !vim
[12:51] <wolferine> !emacs
[12:52] <intelikey> wolferine dont count on vim being there either
[12:52] <intelikey> or emacs
[12:52] <intelikey> but nano is.
[12:52] <wolferine> maybe thats why there is no trigger :)
[12:53] <intelikey> actually no.   all there !calls trigger the same infonode
[12:53] <intelikey> and ubotu doesnt repete
[12:53] <wolferine> repeat
[12:53] <wolferine> hehe
[12:54] <intelikey> you keep my spelling streight and i'll keep your linux streight...  :)
[12:54] <wolferine> sounds good
[01:00] <PF-Away> !vim
[01:00] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:00] <PF-Away> :D
[01:00] <PF-Away> !vim | PF-Away
[01:04] <purez> :o
[01:06] <purez> anyone here^
[01:06] <intelikey> 344 at present
[01:07] <PF-Away> 342?
[01:07] <purez> well
[01:07] <purez> i tryed to install a module but i get an error
[01:07] <intelikey> two are bots several are clones....   most are idle.
[01:07] <PF-Away> 343
[01:07] <purez> i tryed to install madwifi
[01:08] <intelikey> !wifi
[01:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:08] <intelikey> what error ?
[01:08] <purez> FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[01:08] <purez> This
[01:09] <intelikey> what did dmesg say about it ?
[01:10] <PF-Away> purez: where did you get that module?
[01:10] <PF-Away> purez: it's the wrong module
[01:10] <intelikey>  /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/net/ath_pci.ko
[01:10] <PF-Away> purez: please write "/sysinfo" in here
[01:11] <purez> Sysinfo for 'darkstaown-laptop': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: MobileIntel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.80GHz at 1600 MHz (3202 bogomips), , RAM: 411/439MB, 102 proc's, 2.41h up
[01:11] <purez> :p
[01:11] <purez> and
[01:12] <PF-Away> purez: i ask again, where did you get that madwifi module?
[01:12] <purez> its a aircrack module ;p
[01:12] <PF-Away> purez: please use modules supplied with your OS
[01:12] <PF-Away> ;)
[01:13] <icecruncher> !kate
[01:13] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:13] <icecruncher> !code
[01:13] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[01:15] <PF-Away> why isn't nano mentioned amongst the programming editors?
[01:15] <icecruncher> dunno
[01:15] <PF-Away> it's a very viable code editor, with syntax highlighting and everything
[01:15] <intelikey> doesn't qualify
[01:15] <PF-Away> intelikey: how?
[01:15] <icecruncher> why?
[01:16] <intelikey> ask seaves ?
[01:16] <PF-Away> he's not here
[01:16] <PF-Away> intelikey: it was you who said it didn't qualify;)
[01:16] <Hobbsee> !editors
[01:16] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) | Terminal-based editors: vi/vim, emacs, and nano (user-friendly). | HTML/CSS editors: !html | Programming: !code
[01:17] <Hobbsee> !code
[01:17] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, eclipse, pida
[01:17] <icecruncher> !html
[01:17] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[01:17] <PF-Away> AND nano!
[01:17] <PF-Away> nano can be used for HTML too:D
[01:17] <icecruncher> yeha
[01:18] <Hobbsee> meh.  it's in editors
[01:18] <Hobbsee> really, it's pick your favourite editors, rather than trying to list them all
[01:18] <intelikey> ed  sed and echo can be used for writing html.......
[01:18] <PF-Away> Hobbsee: eMacs and VIm (random capitilasiotns) are in both
[01:18] <Hobbsee> i realise that, and they're more popular
[01:19] <PF-Away> Hobbsee: not amongst newcomers;)
[01:19] <PF-Away> Hobbsee: nano is the default editor in both Gentoo and *Ubuntu, afaik
[01:20] <PF-Away> and probably in other distros too
[01:20] <sdf_> when i enter the konsole and i try to enter any location ? it write no such file or directories        why?
[01:20] <PF-Away> sdf_: you must write "cd" first
[01:20] <PF-Away> like "cd /home"
[01:20] <anthony_> im having a big problem with executing binaries through konsole
[01:20] <anthony_> ive triple checked the permissions, it just comes back no such file or directory
[01:21] <anthony_> even though its right there
[01:21] <intelikey> not in your path
[01:21] <PF-Away> anthony_: running "./<binary>"?
[01:21] <mvo7> use ./filename instead of filename
[01:21] <sdf_> i wrote cd/home/name of program that in home
[01:21] <intelikey> or add  ./  to your path
[01:21] <anthony_> yeah, like that, PF
[01:22] <anthony_> nthony@black-ops:~/skype-1.3.0.53$ ls
[01:22] <anthony_> icons    README                skype-callto-handler  skype.desktop.old
[01:22] <anthony_> lang     skype                 skype.conf            sound
[01:22] <anthony_> LICENSE  skype-action-handler  skype.desktop
[01:22] <anthony_> anthony@black-ops:~/skype-1.3.0.53$ ./skype
[01:22] <anthony_> bash: ./skype: No such file or directory
[01:22] <PF-Away> sdf_: use a space between the cd and the dir
[01:22] <intelikey> sdf_  cd/home/name <<<  no such file.      cd /home/name <<<<  that will work.
[01:23] <intelikey> sdf_ learn to use the tab key.   it helps a lot.
[01:23] <icecruncher> anybody know the hotkey to switch between desktops
[01:23] <icecruncher> ?
[01:23] <sdf_> cd/home/name <<<  no such file.      cd /home/name <<<<  that will work.
[01:24] <sdf_> what are the difference
[01:24] <sdf_> ???????/
[01:24] <intelikey> icecruncher ctrl+arrow  ?
[01:24] <icecruncher> no
[01:24] <PF-Away> icecruncher: i've mapped it to ctrl+alt+shift+tab here
[01:24] <intelikey> sdf_ to linux, all the differance in the world.
[01:24] <PF-Away> all the modifier keys I could find
[01:25] <intelikey> icecruncher khotkeys can tell ya
[01:25] <icecruncher> so you can set them?
[01:25] <anthony_> anyone see anything wrong with that?
[01:25] <icecruncher> k
[01:26] <sdf_> you mean the distance between cd and /?
[01:26] <PF-Away> icecruncher: alt+f2, type "kcontrol"
[01:26] <PF-Away> hit enter and search for keys
[01:27] <intelikey> anthony_ tab key.      tab-completion
[01:27] <levent> Haai
[01:27] <intelikey> sdf_ yes
[01:27] <sdf_> i wrote    cd /home/lmule-1.0.2.tar.gz
[01:28] <anthony_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 anthony anthony 15232104 2006-09-30 00:08 skype
[01:28] <intelikey> sdf_ without the space between it's all one word to linux.      with the space it's a single word command with another single word operation for the command to preform
[01:28] <anthony_> anthony@black-ops:~/skype-1.3.0.53$ ./skype
[01:28] <sdf_>  it wrote no such files or directories
[01:28] <anthony_> bash: ./skype: No such file or directory
[01:28] <icecruncher> crap, desktop and kopete just crashed
[01:28] <anthony_> and yes, im using tab completion
[01:29] <intelikey> cd /home/lmule-1.0.2.tar.gz <<<<    highly doubtful that   *tar.gz is a dir.
[01:29] <anthony_> sdf: cd /home ; tar -zxvf lmule-1.0.2.tar.gz
[01:29] <sdf_> i don t understand
[01:30] <intelikey> anthony_ and  ./skype[tab] [tab]     just adds a space after ./skype ?
[01:30] <anthony_> a tar.gz is an archive file it is not a folder, its a file and cannot be cd to
[01:30] <anthony_> you need to extract the archive
[01:30] <icecruncher> anthony_: your trying to install skype, why not get the default intstall packge?
[01:31] <anthony_> im on x86x_64
[01:31] <anthony_> cant find a deb for it
[01:31] <icecruncher> k
[01:31] <sdf_> how can i extract the archive??????/
[01:31] <mrigns_> ...
[01:31] <intelikey> anthony_ could be.   you can mkdir blah.tar.gz    just that most people wont.
[01:31] <anthony_> true, but sdf isn't going to have done that :P hopefully ;)
[01:31] <icecruncher> sdf_: tar?
[01:31] <sdf_> ok
[01:31] <intelikey> !tar
[01:31] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:32] <icecruncher> sdf_: what is the extension?
[01:32] <sdf_> then i extract the archive i want to install this program how?
[01:32] <icecruncher> ./configure if it's there
[01:32] <intelikey> !b-e | sdf_
[01:32] <ubotu> sdf_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[01:33] <icecruncher> !restrictions
[01:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restrictions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:33] <PF-Away> icecruncher: restricions?
[01:33] <icecruncher> forget it
[01:33] <icecruncher> lol
[01:33] <PF-Away> *ctions
[01:33] <PF-Away> ;D
[01:33] <anthony_> running 7.04 on x86_64, can't find any packages for skype, and as i said, can't seem to run anything in konsole, except binaries as part of distro, maybe its my PATH, but im specifying local...
[01:34] <intelikey> !restricted
[01:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:34] <PF-Away> !unrestricted
[01:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about unrestricted - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:34] <icecruncher> ahh, thanks, pain in the rear they are
[01:38] <intelikey> !free formats
[01:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:38] <intelikey> !free
[01:38] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[01:39] <icecruncher> !suse
[01:39] <ubotu> Other !Linux distributions besides !Ubuntu include: Debian, Mepis (using !APT); RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva (using !RPM); Gentoo, Slackware (using other packaging systems)
[01:39] <intelikey> !Ubuntu
[01:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:39] <icecruncher> !kubuntu
[01:39] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[01:39] <PF-Away> !proprietary
[01:39] <PF-Away> !KDE
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proprietary - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[01:39] <icecruncher> !KDE
[01:39] <intelikey> !edUbuntu
[01:39] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[01:39] <anthony_> anyone got any ideas?
[01:40] <icecruncher> !gnome
[01:40] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[01:40] <intelikey> !xUbuntu
[01:40] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[01:40] <mrigns_> what the hell are you doing guys?
[01:40] <anthony_> spamming crap
[01:40] <anthony_> lol
[01:40] <icecruncher> no, just checking out the bot
[01:40] <PF-Away> anthony_: what happens when you try to run them?
[01:40] <mrigns_> !hi
[01:40] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:40] <intelikey> mrigns_ it was quiet and we had a sort of bot war....   it's over now.
[01:40] <anthony_> nothing
[01:40] <anthony_> bash just says "file not found"
[01:40] <PF-Away> !attack icecruncher
[01:41] <anthony_> ive tried even using absolute path to the binary, copying the binary, renaming hte binary
[01:41] <PF-Away> anthony_: then you don't specify the right filename
[01:41] <anthony_> re-chmod, re-chown
[01:41] <PF-Away> anthony_: using tab?
[01:41] <anthony_> done it all
[01:41] <anthony_> yes, using tab, and typing it manually
[01:41] <intelikey> anthony_ where is ?
[01:41] <anthony_> its in my home folder, in the folder created when i extracted the archive
[01:42] <intelikey> anthony_ name of file ?
[01:42] <anthony_> skyp
[01:42] <anthony_> skype
[01:42] <intelikey> anthony_  ls -l ~/skype
[01:42] <intelikey> what does that say ?
[01:42] <anthony_> anthony@black-ops:~/skype-1.3.0.53$ ls -l
[01:42] <anthony_> total 29864
[01:42] <anthony_> drwxr-xr-x 2 anthony anthony     4096 2006-09-30 00:08 icons
[01:42] <anthony_> drwxr-xr-x 2 anthony anthony     4096 2006-09-30 00:08 lang
[01:43] <anthony_> -rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony    22441 2006-09-30 00:08 LICENSE
[01:43] <anthony_> -rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony     2835 2006-09-30 00:08 README
[01:43] <anthony_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 anthony anthony 15232104 2007-04-08 21:38 skype
[01:43] <anthony_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 anthony anthony    12639 2006-09-30 00:08 skype-action-handler
[01:43] <intelikey> that's not what i said do......
[01:43] <anthony_> -rwxrwxrwx 1 anthony anthony 15232104 2006-09-30 00:08 skype-bin
[01:43] <anthony_> -rwxr-xr-x 1 anthony anthony     1813 2006-09-30 00:08 skype-callto-handler
[01:43] <anthony_> -rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony      454 2006-09-30 00:08 skype.conf
[01:43] <anthony_> -rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony      142 2006-09-30 00:08 skype.desktop
[01:43] <anthony_> -rw-r--r-- 1 anthony anthony      125 2006-09-30 00:08 skype.desktop.old
[01:43] <anthony_> drwxr-xr-x 2 anthony anthony     4096 2006-09-30 00:08 sound
[01:43] <anthony_> anthony@black-ops:~/skype-1.3.0.53$
[01:43] <anthony_> skype-bin is a copy of skype, i made trying to run it, it can't find that one either
[01:43] <anthony_> look, im in the
[01:43] <AlCantara> screensaver always crashes x-server. even in the kde-configuration dialog. how can i disable it via configuration-file?
[01:43] <anthony_> im in the ~/skype directory
[01:43] <icecruncher> dude "./skypefile.bin
[01:43] <icecruncher> "
[01:44] <icecruncher> first chmod +x file.bin
[01:44] <intelikey> anthony_ you sure are.    now what does     ls -l ~/skype     tell you ?
[01:44] <anthony_> if you look at the ls output you can see it already has +x for ugo
[01:44] <anthony_> it says no such folder
[01:44] <Linux_Galore> ?? there is a ubuntu skype installer why would you need to chmod anything
[01:45] <intelikey> anthony_ ok seeing you know all things and we can't help you,  don't ask us!
[01:45] <icecruncher> Linux_Galore: he's on X64 and has to use the binary
[01:45] <PF-Away> anthony_: you on 64-bit?
[01:45] <anthony_> yeah
[01:45] <PF-Away> anthony_: try linux32 <name>
[01:46] <anthony_> i just switched over from fedora 6, so this is most frustrating
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> yeah, anther reason I dont use the 64 bit version
[01:46] <Linux_Galore> another*
[01:46] <intelikey> anthony_ you said it was in your home dir.   and the name was "skype"    you can't run   ~/skype    if it's not there.
[01:46] <icecruncher> lol, me too
[01:46] <PF-Away> intelikey: if he can tab-complete it, it's there
[01:47] <intelikey> PF-Away he's not in ~
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> 64 bit is nice bit its not mature yet
[01:47] <intelikey> duh
[01:47] <anthony_> anthony@black-ops:~/skype-1.3.0.53$ linux32 ./skype
[01:47] <anthony_> Cannot execute ./skype: No such file or directory
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> but*
[01:47] <PF-Away> anthony_: drop the ./
[01:47] <PF-Away> anthony_: and tab-complete the name
[01:47] <anthony_> tried that, same thing
[01:47] <PF-Away> anthony_: ldd skype
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> j #ubuntu
[01:48] <anthony_> not a dynamic executable
[01:48] <Linux_Galore> hmm
[01:48] <anthony_> ... thats not right, is it? :P
[01:48] <anthony_> its the static version though, so it might be
[01:48] <PF-Away> sounds bad
[01:48] <anthony_> its not supposed to be linking in anything
[01:48] <PF-Away> anthony_: try file skype
[01:49] <PF-Away> anthony_: it should get libc, at least
[01:49] <PF-Away> afaik
[01:49] <intelikey> anthony_ ~/skype-1.3.0.53/skype-bin
[01:49] <anthony_> ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
[01:50] <pollyo> Yes!  I got my mceusb2 remote working as a mouse!
[01:51] <anthony_> thats it, all it prints
[01:51] <PF-Away> anthony_: try closing and opening a new konsole
[01:52] <anthony_> exactly the same responses
[01:52] <intelikey> anthony_ ~/skype-1.3.0.53/skype-bin --help
[01:52] <icecruncher> several packages are being held back, what to do?
[01:53] <intelikey> icecruncher let them.    means something depends on a specific version.  maybe vidio driver ?
[01:53] <icecruncher> amarok amarok-xine bluez-utils hpijs kaffeine-xine kde-guidance
[01:53] <icecruncher>   kmplayer-base kmplayer-konq-plugins kubuntu-desktop
[01:53] <icecruncher>   python-htmlgen speedcrunch ubuntu-minimal
[01:53] <icecruncher> xine maybe?
[01:54] <intelikey> yeah maybe
[01:54] <pupeno> Hello.
[01:54] <pollyo> Anyone using kdelirc (irkick)
[01:54] <icecruncher> hi
[01:55] <pupeno> After upgrading to Feisty, I can't no longer mount my encrypted file system. I can luksOpen it, but then I get:
[01:55] <pupeno> # mount /dev/mapper/home /home/
[01:55] <pupeno> mount: Operation not supported
[01:55] <pupeno> Any ideas?
[01:55] <icecruncher> !upgrade
[01:55] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:55] <icecruncher> dang it
[01:55] <pollyo> pupeno: Do you have to specify the type of filesystem?
[01:56] <pupeno> pollyo: it doesn't ask for it, but I can try.
[01:56] <sdf_> i want to install lmule program with .tar.gz i have unzibbed the file and then??????/
[01:56] <intelikey> pupeno module ?
[01:56] <intelikey> just a guess.
[01:56] <pupeno> intelikey: specifing the fs doesn't help.
[01:56] <intelikey> sdf_ you didn't read the page ubotu sent you....
[01:56] <pupeno> intelikey: what do you mean by "module ?"?
[01:56] <sdf_> i read it
[01:56] <intelikey> !b-e > sdf_
[01:57] <sdf_> but i didn t understand any thing
[01:57] <icecruncher> !b-e > icecruncher
[01:57] <sdf_> it s the first time to use linux
[01:57] <pupeno> sdf_: installing software not from packages is not for people who don't know what they are doing (or who don't want to learn).
[01:57] <andreasw> does someone use kdevelop for qt developing?
[01:57] <intelikey> pupeno i mean when something is not supported it genericly means the kernel doesn't recognize it.   thus maybe a module is not inserted that needs to be....
[01:58] <PF-Away> pupeno: have you modprobe'd fuse and friends?
[01:58] <intelikey> like support for encripted fs's ?
[01:59] <pupeno> intelikey: agreed, but opening the encrypted fs worked, what doesn't work is mounting it.
[01:59] <PF-Away> !remote
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <icecruncher> sdf_: you extracted it?
[02:00] <sdf_> ya
[02:00] <intelikey> pupeno dmesg  "might"  be helpful.
[02:00] <pupeno> PF-Away: no, but I didn't have to modprobe it on Egdy.
[02:00] <icecruncher> look at 3 stages of compiling packages
[02:00] <PF-Away> pupeno: maybe it modprobed itself
[02:00] <anthony_> *rubs temples*
[02:00] <icecruncher> sdf_: I agree the document is condusing
[02:01] <pupeno> intelikey: indeed, and it's not nice.
[02:01] <intelikey> anthony_ did you get it ?
[02:01] <icecruncher> sdf_: first try './configure'
[02:01] <pupeno> I get these messages in dmesg: http://paste.lisp.org/display/39397
[02:02] <icecruncher> sdf_: in the konsole
[02:02] <pollyo> Anyone using irkick ?
[02:02] <pollyo> or know if it has an official website?
[02:02] <pollyo> it might be known as kdelirc
[02:03] <sdf_> i wrote it in console
[02:03] <icecruncher> sdf_: ahhm, don't forget sudo before that. then all you should 'sudo make', then 'sudo make install'
[02:03] <pupeno> PF-Away: any other thing that fuse?
[02:03] <anthony_> nope
[02:03] <anthony_> everything ive tried just refuses to acknowledge it as a runnable binary
[02:03] <anthony_> ldd says not dynamic
[02:03] <anthony_> file reports no libs
[02:04] <PF-Away> anthony_: dmesg | tail
[02:04] <PF-Away> then
[02:04] <sdf_> icecruncher: for example i have file on desktop and i want to install it      what do i do?
[02:04] <intelikey> anthony_  and you did try    ~/skype-1.3.0.53/skype-bin --help
[02:05] <sdf_> first i enter the konsole
[02:05] <sdf_> icecrucher:then i wrote     what?????/
[02:05] <icecruncher> sdf_: okay let's name the file: bob.tar.gz
[02:05] <anthony_> the last 100 entries are all just scans by the wireless network card
[02:05] <sdf_> then??//
[02:05] <icecruncher> sdf_: first of all you type in 'tar -zxvf bob.tar.gz'
[02:06] <icecruncher> sdf_: 'cd bob'
[02:06] <PF-Away> Microsoft Bob
[02:06] <intelikey> pupeno i agree that don't look good.
[02:06] <pupeno> intelikey: it looks totally screwed.
[02:06] <icecruncher> PF-Away: lol
[02:06] <sdf_>  first of all you type in 'tar -zxvf bob.tar.gz'
[02:06] <sdf_> this in konsole
[02:06] <icecruncher> yeah bob being the filename
[02:06] <pupeno> intelikey: fsck.reiserfs gave an error and ended up with a Aborted (core dumped).
[02:07] <intelikey> eeeek
[02:07] <PF-Away> calm down
[02:07] <pupeno> I'll boot with a livecd of edgy, try to update the backups, and restore the backups with feisty.
[02:08] <PF-Away> pupeno: try running memtest86, mebbe
[02:08] <sdf_> icecrucher:i write 'tar -zxvf bob.tar.gz' in konsole?????????
[02:08] <anthony_> interesting, i tried it with another 32bit binary, and it too is acting the exact same way
[02:08] <intelikey> that thing's gonna blow.
[02:08] <icecruncher> sdf_: yes
[02:08] <mvo7> sdf_ use aptitude as much as possible,only  if there is really-really no other way you can start installing from other sources.
[02:08] <pupeno> PF-Away: was edgy more resistant to memory problems?
[02:08] <mrigns_> reiserfs its just like its inventor. at first break/kill something and after that go missing
[02:08] <icecruncher> mvo7: he's compiling from source, quite a bit of fun
[02:08] <mvo7> oops adept
[02:08] <PF-Away> pupeno: maybe you've damaged your ram since upgrading?
[02:09] <sdf_> icecrucher:then i write cd filename????????/
[02:09] <icecruncher> yes
[02:09] <intelikey> sdf_   tar -zxvf *.tar.gz
[02:09] <intelikey> sdf_   tar xf *.tar.gz
[02:09] <sdf_> icecrucher:then????????
[02:09] <intelikey> cd into the dir it creats
[02:09] <mrigns_> sdf_: one question mark is enough
[02:10] <icecruncher> sdf_: './configure'
[02:10] <pupeno> PF-Away: I'd say that it would bee too much coincidence that the RAM worked for two years and is damaged in the last 30 minutes in which also I am running an upgraded beta version, don't you think?
[02:10] <intelikey> mrigns_ ???
[02:10] <intelikey> :)
[02:10] <mrigns_> :D
[02:10] <PF-Away> pupeno: maybe it got heated
[02:10] <icecruncher> intelikey: you mind helping sdf_ ?
[02:10] <icecruncher> gotta reboot
[02:10] <intelikey> icecruncher yes
[02:10] <icecruncher> k
[02:11] <sdf_> icecrucher :then?????
[02:11] <intelikey> sdf_   ls
[02:11] <pupeno> PF-Away: well, it is easy to proove by trying to access the encrypted data with an edgy livecd
[02:11] <PF-Away> pupeno: i meant the core dumping of the fsck progrm
[02:11] <PF-Away> program
[02:11] <intelikey> sdf_ look for files with all upper case name   LIKE THIS   and read them
[02:11] <sdf_> intelikely:why don tyou help me?
[02:12] <mrigns_> lol
[02:12] <intelikey> sdf_ i am.
[02:12] <PF-Away> he doesn't like you
[02:12] <PF-Away> he wants his money
[02:12] <mrigns_> why not just use amule or kmldonkey instead of compiling some shitty client?
[02:12] <sdf_> icecrucher said:i write /configure right?
[02:12] <intelikey> sdf_   cd into the dir that extracting the tar ball created   and   ls
[02:12] <mrigns_> they are in the repos too
[02:13] <intelikey> sdf_ not until you determine if there is an install script
[02:13] <pupeno> PF-Away: the message is not "segmentation fault" like when you have a "crazy pointer", but "Aborted (core dumped)" and it is after an I/O error, so I wouldn't worry to much about it.
[02:14] <anthony_> its defnitely because its a 32 bit program
[02:14] <pupeno> maybe the cryptsetup changed format and there's a way to open the old format or something like that...
[02:14] <intelikey> sdf_ you don't use generic compilation proceedures until you have determined that there are not "special" procedures that the software maker provided.    so look for files with all caps names  and read them.
[02:15] <lpane> hello. has anyone used Envy to install nvidia driver?
[02:16] <intelikey> lpane several have.  is this a poll ?   or do you have an issue ?
[02:17] <lpane> intelikey: sorry, its not a pool.  i've just restarted from automatic install and my xorg.conf shows 'nv' as driver. also my resolution/refresh is worst than before
[02:17] <sdf_> intelikey:any way that you but  untill now i didn t understand any thing in linux and may be back to windows
[02:17] <sdf_> thank you*
[02:18] <mvo7> anthony_:I use the normal x86 release on my 64 bit cpu, it avoids problems like that
[02:19] <intelikey> lpane what release version ?   feisty ?
[02:19] <anthony_> yeah, i like my dual core
[02:20] <lpane> intelikey:  just upgrade from dapper to edgy
[02:21] <lpane> intelikey: upgraded just so i could use envy
[02:23] <intelikey> sdf_ the three generic commands to building software are  1.  ./configure      2.  make     3. sudo make install         but don't count on that working on all bundles,  and you would be far better off using installer scripts provided by the makers if they exist.    i was and still am trying to help you.   i don't want you to arbitrarrily type in several commands that don't work, and them get even more frustrated and say that 
[02:23] <intelikey> lpane idk....  maybe just change the driver to nvidia and see what it does.   ?
[02:24] <intelikey> if the install went ok, that is.
[02:24] <lpane> intelikey: Ok.. will do some experimenting...
[02:27] <intelikey> sdf_ you were told at the very first that compiling software is not for the novice.   there are litterally houndreds of thousands of things that "can" go wrong, and you need some common knowledge of the system befor you face such things.
[02:28] <Pupeno_> In Edgy, my HD was /dev/hda, now it is /dev/sda and /etc/fstab contain some long UIDs, hash-like, instead of /def/something. What is all this about? something changed on Linux?
[02:28] <sdf_> ok
[02:28] <intelikey> Pupeno_ blkid   it's the fs ident mark.   all fs's have them.
[02:29] <mvo7> Pupeno_: sata is mapped to sdX insteas of hdX now
[02:29] <Pupeno_> intelikey: so you can identify FSs no matten in what device they are?
[02:29] <intelikey> Pupeno_ yes  and  the command    blkid   should show you all fs's on the system.
[02:30] <pepesmith> !seen jucato
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen jucato - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <Pupeno_> mvo7: has SATA even been mapped ot hdX? I've never seen that. And I don't have SATA disks on this computer.
[02:30] <pepesmith> @seen jucato
[02:30] <intelikey> Pupeno_ ide should still exist as /dev/hd*
[02:31] <sdf_> intelikey:now i have program in home "unzibbed program" i wrote     cd /home/program then it wrote no such files or directories
[02:31] <sdf_> intelikey:what do i do???????
[02:31] <intelikey> sdf_ that was because your home is not /home/   it is /home/<sdf_'s user name>/
[02:32] <intelikey> try cd /home/sdf/program
[02:32] <Pupeno_> intelikey: well, I have IDE (P)ATA devices and there's no /dev/hd*.
[02:32] <sdf_> ok
[02:32] <intelikey> and that assumes it was actually in your home dir and not on the desktop
[02:32] <sdf_> i ll try
[02:32] <Pupeno_> edgy is not able to open the encrypted FS, so it seems to be trashed.
[02:33] <intelikey> Pupeno_ hmmm then they are using scsi emulation by default.  i guess      i don't have edgy.   just hoary and dapper.
[02:34] <ssvnyp> hola
[02:34] <jack_> hi my microphone doesnt work in skype (and any other app), i hvae tried everything,can anyone help?
[02:34] <sdf_> it wrote this line cd /home/sdf/program$
[02:34] <intelikey> !es | ssvnyp
[02:34] <Pupeno_> intelikey: that might be it.
[02:34] <ubotu> ssvnyp: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:35] <Pupeno_> How do I load other crypt engines in Egdy live CD? on /proc/crypt I only see md5 and cryptsetup is complaining: "Check kernel for support for the aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher spec".
[02:36] <sdf_> icelikey:checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[02:36] <intelikey> Pupeno_ modprobe
[02:36] <sdf_> this appear after i wrote configure
[02:37] <sdf_> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[02:37] <sdf_> and this
[02:37] <sdf_> icelikey:i don t understand what is this?
[02:37] <sdf_> checking for gawk... no
[02:37] <intelikey> pupeno_  modprobe -l | less    can help you find modules.
[02:37] <sdf_> checking for mawk... mawk
[02:38] <sdf_> icelike:what do you mean?
[02:38] <intelikey> sdf_ it's just trying to determine how to construct the makefile.
[02:38] <Pupeno_> intelikey: nice! I didn't know about that. Thank you!
[02:39] <sdf_> icelikey:how?????
[02:39] <sdf_> can we cht from private room?
[02:39] <sdf_> chat*
[02:40] <intelikey> sdf_ that's what  ./configure does.    it constructs a "makefile"   for the "make"  command to use,     you should only look for "error"   or    "E:"  messages.
[02:40] <intelikey> if you find any of those let us know.
[02:41] <sdf_> icelikey:checking for C++ compiler default output... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[02:41] <sdf_> this is appearing
[02:41] <Pupeno_> Ok. Edgy is capable of opening the encrypted FS, so, it is either a bug on Feisty or an incompatibility. If it is the last, re-creating the FS and restoring backups would do it, if it is the second, I have a long day ahead.
[02:42] <intelikey> ok you didn't install build-essential    which i pointed you at the wiki page several times that tells you "you must install build-essential" befor compiling software on ubuntu
[02:42] <bulb> zdravim
[02:43] <intelikey> Pupeno_ you did check that the same module is inserted in feisty ?
[02:43] <intelikey> just a thought.
[02:43] <sdf_> icelikey:are you follow me?/////
[02:43] <arvid> is there a way to make kubuntu mount my other (internal) harddrives automaticly on startup?
[02:43] <Pupeno_> intelikey: I haven't checked, but the problem is not a missing module, but a scrambled FS.
[02:44] <arvid> I just realized that I'm mounting them manualy on every boot
[02:44] <intelikey> sdf_     ok you didn't install build-essential    which i pointed you at the wiki page several times that tells you "you must install build-essential" befor compiling software on ubuntu
[02:44] <intelikey> sdf_ install  build-essential  and try again.
[02:45] <intelikey> i have to run.  good day, and good luck to your penguin.
[02:45] <sdf_> icelikey:hehehe how can i install build essensial?
[02:45] <hyper_ch> hiho, how can I move the partial-downloaded folder from ktorrent to another location? I tried copy the folder over and alter the ktorrent config but that did not work
[02:45] <intelikey> !b-e | sdf_
[02:45] <ubotu> sdf_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:45] <mvo7> arvid: you can add an automount option in /etc/fstab
[02:45] <mvo7> arvid: i don't know the exaxt syntax right now
[02:49] <mvo7> sdf_: learn to use adept first, it's much easyer than compiling from source
[02:50] <test> when I try to join #php here on freenode i keep getting redirected to #owerflow why is that. Sorry about my nick, can't remember the password for my rigisterd one
[02:51] <Pupeno_> hak5fan: read the topic of #overflow.
[02:52] <sdf_> mvo7:when i try to install build essential
[02:52] <sdf_> it be wrote Reading package lists... Done
[02:52] <sdf_> and
[02:53] <sdf_> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:53] <sdf_> and
[02:53] <sdf_> E: Couldn't find package build-essential
[02:53] <sdf_> what are these?????
[02:53] <hak5fan> Pupeno_: tnx
[02:53] <sonoftheclayr> the first two are normal, the third one is odd
[02:55] <sonoftheclayr> sdf_: try sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:55] <sdf_> ok
[02:56] <sdf_> the same
[02:56] <sdf_> i had the same lines
[02:57] <sonoftheclayr> sdf_: that's really weird. fire up adept and see if it's in there
[02:57] <sdf_> ok
[02:58] <sdf_> i wrote in search in adept build-essential and i have not any resultes
[02:59] <sonoftheclayr> sdf_: this is really weird, it should be in there by default. you haven't messed about with your sources.list file and removed the repos?
[03:01] <sdf_> i don t  understand what do you mean?????/
[03:03] <don_jr__-afk> sdf_ Do this apt-get -f install
[03:03] <don_jr__-afk> sudo apt-get -f install
[03:04] <sdf_> ok
[03:04] <sdf_> : Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:05] <sdf_> this appear
[03:05] <sdf_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:05] <sdf_> and this
[03:05] <don_jr__> sdf_ do you  have adept or synaptic open?
[03:05] <sdf_> ya i have adept
[03:06] <don_jr__> close adept then try again
[03:06] <sdf_> ok
[03:07] <sdf_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:07] <sdf_> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:07] <sdf_> this appear
[03:08] <sdf_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:08] <sdf_> and this
[03:11] <sdf_> don jr:are you follow?????????
[03:11] <Linux_Alien> hi, i'm trying to install kubuntu on a pc that has tv out connected to my tv, what option(s) do i need to specify to stop the screen becoming garbled? i trie nofb but still the same, this happens as soon as it tries to load X
[03:12] <don_jr__> sdf_ I'm here, it's easter morning and I'm playing with my kids. hold on
[03:12] <don_jr__> Linux_Alien that is beyond me there.  What type of card is it?
[03:12] <pollyo> Anyone know where I can find info on kdelirc , kcmlirc, or irkick?
[03:13] <sdf_> are you read this
[03:13] <sdf_>  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[03:13] <sdf_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:13] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: its a radeon 9200 256MB DDR +TV out - i know it can do it as i did it on ubuntu before but don't remember what option i gave it now, was long ago
[03:13] <sdf_> ] Building dependency tree... Done
[03:14] <don_jr__> yeas sdf_ I read it.  I"m not sure what the problem is.  I had that same problem last night, it asking for build-esential
[03:14] <sdf_> don jr:this appear when i run your command
[03:14] <don_jr__> Linux_Alien alrighty, then someone will be able to help you I hope.  I don't know how
[03:14] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: hope so :) thanks
[03:15] <Linux_Alien> is there a text mode?
[03:15] <sdf_> don_jr:now i can t iinstall any new programs?????????/
[03:16] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: no biggie anyway, i'll hook it up to here in a minute :)
[03:17] <Linux_Alien> just curious really
[03:17] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: easter morning? haha i'm in the future, it's nearly tomorrow here
[03:17] <nathan> hey
[03:18] <sdf_> heelpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
[03:18] <sdf_> i need helppppppppppp
[03:19] <sonoftheclayr> sdf_: type in sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:19] <don_jr__> sofoftheclayr Yes, it's easter morning here and I"m about to read the easter story out of the Bible to my kids.
[03:19] <don_jr__> now I need to get my nvidia drivers working on edgy
[03:19] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: i ate most of my chocolate already, i'm still a kid (sort of) :)
[03:20] <don_jr__> sonoftheclayr I'm 27 and have 5 kids and still love chocolate easter candy!! lol
[03:20] <sonoftheclayr> don_jr__: cool, tell them i said hi!
[03:20] <sdf_> don jr:where do you live?????/
[03:22] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: i found this while helping someone earlier, dunno if you even need it, but thought it may be of use - http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#nvidia-driver
[03:23] <markc> debian etch just went stable today
[03:26] <inade> what's the next testing named, markc?
[03:27] <ubuntu_> hi all
[03:27] <inade> hi ubuntu_
[03:28] <ubuntu_> i'm partitioning now to install 6.10 Edgy, but i get a strange error
[03:28] <sonoftheclayr> ubuntu_: we should be able to help
[03:28] <xardias> markc: really? i dont see anything on their homepage.
[03:30] <ubuntu_> i've got a 206gb partition for XP, 1.5gb swap, 8gb for / and 12 for /home (the last 3 are have now SuSE, but i want to install Kubuntu over them)
[03:31] <ubuntu_> and when i select the mount points, i select the 3 last partitions (/, home and swap), but it says to me that i have no selected the root
[03:31] <ubuntu_> (sorry for my english, but i'm spanish) ;-)
[03:32] <ubuntu_> where's the problem?
[03:32] <openstandards> have you selected the mouthpath of / as root
[03:32] <nathan> hey, does anyone know how I can install Compiz?
[03:32] <inade>  /topic
[03:33] <markc> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/debian-announce-2007/msg00002.html ... and /.
[03:33] <ubuntu_> openstandards: yes
[03:34] <don_jr__> Thank you very much Linux_Alien that did it, I'm up and running again!!
[03:34] <Linux_Alien> sweet
[03:34] <openstandards> ubuntu_: no idea then i've never experienced any problems myself so i can't really help
[03:34] <Linux_Alien> any time man
[03:35] <don_jr__> now I need to get wine to work and my life is happy...gotta have some of my mmorpg's! lol
[03:35] <ubuntu_> ok, thank you openstandards
[03:35] <inade> have you tried deleting the partitions before reusing them for kubuntu, ubuntu_ ?
[03:36] <ubuntu_> you mean to delet them in the partitioner and create them again?
[03:36] <inade> yes, ubuntu_
[03:37] <ubuntu_> i'll try now
[03:37] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: well other than cedega, wouldn't you apt-get install wine      or winex ?
[03:38] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: you might want to   apt-cache search wine  to see whats available
[03:38] <niles> hi guys
[03:39] <niles> any kaffeine users got angles to work?
[03:39] <niles> i have a movie with multiple angles but i cant seem to use an of them other than angle 1
[03:42] <ubuntu_> thx for help
[03:42] <ubuntu_> chao
[03:54] <don_jr__> Linux_Alien yes I just got done with wine(sorry for the delay, dressing kids to go to my dads) it's just learning to use it and getting things to run on it that I need to figure out.
[03:54] <don_jr__> where do I go to change resolutions?  that in kcontrol?
[03:54] <sdf_> how can i remove the histroy for websites that i visit for koqueror??????
[03:55] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: i was the same way, just had to experiment a bit to make things work
[03:56] <don_jr__> sdf_ in konqueror click settings->configure konqueror then on theleft find the history button and click it, then click clear history
[03:57] <don_jr__> I gotta change my screen resolution, not sure where to do that in kubuntu
[03:57] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: i just edit the xorg.conf and remove the unwanted resolutions
[03:57] <sdf_> how can i make the screen small as windows
[03:58] <sdf_> from propereties and setting
[03:58] <sdf_> and we change the size
[03:58] <don_jr__> sdf_ do what Linux_Alien just set.  I"m not sure how to do it any other way.
[03:58] <don_jr__> sdf_ just put a # in front of hte lines you don't want used, then if you want to change back all you have to do is remove the #
[03:59] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: no
[03:59] <don_jr__> Linux_Alien no?  crud, I'm not sure which resolution I want to use, I"m oging to have to remove and add them over and over...lol
[03:59] <Linux_Alien> just find the DefaultDepth line, then go to the subsection on that depth and edit the Modes line
[03:59] <Linux_Alien> leave the others alone
[03:59] <don_jr__> sdf_ Don't use hte # sign in front of it....
[03:59] <Linux_Alien> no
[03:59] <Linux_Alien> just edit it
[04:00] <don_jr__> okay, well, a wine installation is going right now, let's hope the program runs after I get it installed and life is happy
[04:00] <Linux_Alien> say if you have Modes "1024x768" "800x600"    etc, and you want 800x600 then just remove the 1024x768 bit
[04:00] <Linux_Alien> it takes the first one on the line
[04:01] <don_jr__> Linux_Alien alrighty, thanks.
[04:01] <Linux_Alien> np :)
[04:01] <sdf_> how can i run mpeg files??????/
[04:01] <sdf_> mp3
[04:01] <Linux_Alien> sdf_: mplayer, xine
[04:01] <don_jr__> sdf_ there are a couple mp3 players built into kubuntu
[04:01] <sdf_> how can i install them???///
[04:02] <sdf_> and from wher i download them?
[04:02] <sdf_> ya
[04:02] <Linux_Alien> sdf_:   apt-cache search <whatever>
[04:02] <Linux_Alien> apt-get install <stuffyoufind>
[04:02] <Linux_Alien> :)
[04:03] <don_jr__> I run the program with wine...it changed my screen resolution and then stopped.....heh
[04:04] <don_jr__> and now screen resolution is stuck where it's at...lmao  this is gonna be fun to learn.
[04:05] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: just restart x
[04:05] <Linux_Alien> it will come back
[04:05] <don_jr__> Linux_Alien lol, thanks...it's always so easy! hehe
[04:06] <Linux_Alien> its because it failed and didn't get to the part of switching it back
[04:06] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: lol
[04:06] <Linux_Alien> don't think too complicated ;) its usually quite easy
[04:06] <don_jr__> Linux_Alien right, now I have to figure out why it failed.  Does wine create a log file I an check?
[04:07] <don_jr__> okay, stupid me....how do I restart x?  I know how to start it if it's off, how do I get it off to restart? lol
[04:07] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: check the readme's man pages etc, make sure you start it in debug mode
[04:07] <Linux_Alien> its been years so am struggling to remember
[04:07] <don_jr__> Okay, can I just do a /etc/init.d/kdm restart?
[04:07] <Linux_Alien> be sure to setup the environment too
[04:08] <Linux_Alien> and specify what version 95/98 etc your going to be doing
[04:08] <Linux_Alien> don_jr__: ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:08] <Linux_Alien> :)
[04:08] <don_jr__> lol, again, another easy solution...but the kdm restart worked too! heh
[04:08] <Linux_Alien> cool :-D
[04:09] <Linux_Alien> as long as it works mate, thats my motto
[04:09] <don_jr__> if I can get wine to work I'll n ever have to use another winblows box again!!!
[04:09] <Linux_Alien> hehehe
[04:09] <Linux_Alien> sweet
[04:10] <Linux_Alien> i'm deleting my xp partition today, never used it in like 6 months
[04:10] <Linux_Alien> i only had it there to do the ISP modem registration
[04:11] <typedestereo> hm
[04:11] <typedestereo> I just updated to fiesty fawn using dpkg
[04:12] <typedestereo> do I have to log back in for it to take effect?
[04:12] <PF-Away> typedestereo: reboot
[04:12] <PF-Away> typedestereo: to update everything
[04:12] <Oleswen> Excuse me I would know what is the browser that you use ?
[04:12] <typedestereo> thanks
[04:12] <typedestereo> though it isn't prompting me to reboot
[04:12] <typedestereo> should it be?
[04:13] <PF-Away> typedestereo: you don't have to reboot
[04:14] <PF-Away> typedestereo: but to use all the new features, you have to
[04:14] <typedestereo> right then
[04:14] <PF-Away> Oleswen: Konqueror
[04:16] <Linux_Alien> bbl :)
[04:17] <Oleswen> The Linux users often use Konqueror or Mozilla ,
[04:17] <Oleswen> ?
[04:17] <PF-Away> Oleswen: yeah
[04:18] <Oleswen> more Konqueror or more Firefox ?
[04:18] <PF-Away> firefox probably
[04:18] <PF-Away> like windows
[04:19] <PF-Away> even though Konqueror is better;)
[04:19] <don_jr__> I personally prefer konqueror, just cause konversation opens konqueror for links, and I'd rather use one browser instead of 2 for different jobs! lol and I've noticed that popups are alot less with knoqueror aswell.
[04:20] <Oleswen> thanks
[04:21] <soulrider> ive been using firefox lately, but sometimes it just freezes
[04:21] <soulrider> so i installed Opera
[04:22] <PF-Away> Opera pwns;)
[04:23] <openstandards> opera isn't the browser of my choice :)
[04:23] <don_jr__> anyone here uses wine?
[04:24] <don_jr__> I just turned on winedebug=warn+all   but I don't know how to run a program I installed with wine, from the command line....
[04:24] <PF-Away> don_jr__: i use it to play Fallout II
[04:25] <don_jr__> how do I run a program I've installed from a command line?  I'm not sure how to set the path, cause I cna't find it....lol outside of wine it's self
[04:25] <don_jr__> and locate doesn't find the file...lol
[04:25] <ubuntu_> Guys I need to partition my hdd in order to install Kubuntu. I have xp installed and have two partitions, I need some help please.
[04:25] <magical_trevsky> don_jr__, the program should be in ~/.wine/drive_c
[04:26] <mvo7> ubuntu_
[04:26] <mvo7> ubuntu_: the second partition is empty or used ?
[04:26] <don_jr__> magical_trevsky duh..thank you very much I was putting the . before the /
[04:26] <ubuntu_> empty
[04:27] <korrx> hi all
[04:27] <don_jr__> is there a way to change resolutions from within kde without altering the xorg.conf file?
[04:27] <mvo7> ubuntu_: then you can choose manual partitioning in the installer
[04:27] <ubuntu_> yes that is what I am doing
[04:27] <ubuntu_> but I am lost
[04:28] <ubuntu_> it is asks me then to select which partition I want to use
[04:28] <jhutchins> don_jr__: Yes.
[04:28] <don_jr__> how do I get into a directory with spaces in the name?
[04:28] <don_jr__> jhutchins where would I find the resolution settings from within kde please?
[04:28] <magical_trevsky> don_jr__, put a \ before the space
[04:28] <ubuntu_> I have one part of 45 for wincrap and the other that I want to use for Kubuntu
[04:28] <magical_trevsky> don_jr__, eg Program\ Files
[04:29] <don_jr__> magical_trevsky thanks alot!
[04:29] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Ok.  Usually we split off a bit for a swap partition, up to about a gig, 2x your ram.
[04:30] <teoma29> I want to remove some programs in Synaptic and some also want to remove 'ubuntu-desktop' I take it I shouldn't let it? :)
[04:30] <jhutchins> don_jr__: You can also use the tab key to auto-complete directory names.
[04:30] <korrx> who do not have any problem with Nvidia ?
[04:30] <akrus> could someone recommend DVD Ripper with support of adding multiple audio streams & subtitles -> XviD+OGG or XviD+MP3 :)
[04:30] <ubuntu_> ok right now I have: /media/sda1 for the 45g  partition and /media/sda2 for the 29gg
[04:30] <don_jr__> korrx my nvidia card works great right now
[04:31] <ubuntu_> with a choice of reformating (when box is ticked)
[04:31] <akrus> korrx: mine as well
[04:31] <korrx> glad to know
[04:31] <korrx> happy :)
[04:31] <akrus> :)
[04:31] <magical_trevsky> akrus, acidrip might do it
[04:31] <akrus> magical_trevsky: yeah, but it's likely impossible to add multiple audio streams :(
[04:32] <korrx> mine does some strange things (if it's a card related problem)
[04:32] <don_jr__> how can I run a program with wine from the konsole?  I've tried path name linux style and path name windows style and niether works.
[04:32] <don_jr__> korrx like what?
[04:32] <korrx> glxgears works well
[04:32] <akrus> don_jr__: wine file.exe
[04:32] <korrx> but
[04:32] <jhutchins> akrus: mplayer.
[04:32] <ubuntu_> I don't want to delete the wincrap partition as I spent all day installing it :-9
[04:32] <akrus> jhutchins: console mode :(
[04:32] <korrx> now only with Vsync on
[04:32] <jhutchins> akrus: Works fine.
[04:33] <korrx> otherwise : regular laggs appears
[04:33] <magical_trevsky> jhutchins, akrus, acidrip is a frontend to mencoder
[04:33] <akrus> magical_trevsky: i know o_O
[04:33] <jhutchins> akrus: In fact, I don't know how to rip with mplayer from the gui.
[04:33] <akrus> jhutchins: no way lol :)
[04:33] <korrx> as if frames cannot adapt to Vsync
[04:34] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: So don't delete it.  Or format it.  Format the other one.
[04:34] <don_jr__> I run 'wine c:\\Program\ Files\\xenimus.exe   and it tells me file can't be found.....
[04:34] <MegaVolt> why you use windows pathnames
[04:35] <don_jr__> just running wine xenimus.exe   and it looks in the system32 folder for it.
[04:35] <ubuntu_> Ok so I tick the reformat box for the 29gg (for Kubuntu), and the windows part shows /media/sda1 and the other one shows /media/sda2 is that right?
[04:35] <don_jr__> MegaVolt cause even if I use linux it still says it can't find  .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/xenius.exe
[04:35] <MegaVolt> is it there ?
[04:36] <magical_trevsky> don_jr__, you need to put ~/ before .wine
[04:36] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Doesn't sound right.  Shouldn't be /media, that's a mount point.
[04:36] <don_jr__> magical_trevsky literally ~ or my entire home directory?
[04:36] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: I think what you want is to go ahead and leave the windows partition to be mounted as /media/sda1, but the other one should become /
[04:36] <ubuntu_> should I delete the second partition then?
[04:36] <MegaVolt> ~/ is your home directry
[04:37] <don_jr__> still tell's me it can't be found
[04:37] <don_jr__> but I can cd right to it
[04:37] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Well, I'd delete it and create a new one with a third partition for swap, but you can just use it without swap if you have plenty of ram.
[04:37] <MegaVolt> try open a console and cd into it
[04:37] <ubuntu_> it is formated as ntfs
[04:37] <MegaVolt> and then wine xenius.exe
[04:37] <jhutchins> don_jr__: So cd to it and run it from there.
[04:38] <MegaVolt> i got a problem installing kubuntu feisty beta on a new intel ore2 duo with geforce 8800 gts: i chose install kubuntu, kernel is loaded and then i see a black screen, nothing happens, evtl ctrl+alt+del doesnt work
[04:38] <MegaVolt> any ideas ?
[04:38] <MegaVolt> install cd is the 64bit normal cd
[04:38] <don_jr__> jhutchins thanks, I got it to run now....it gives me an error..this is gonna be fun...lol
[04:39] <don_jr__> MegaVolt you need to install the nvidia drivers
[04:39] <magical_trevsky> MegaVolt, can you get to a console with ctrl + alt + f1?
[04:39] <ubuntu_> Now I have the former partition showing as hidden
[04:39] <korrx> anyone knows a command to verify if a process is running ghostly ?
[04:39] <ubuntu_> greyed out basically
[04:39] <don_jr__> MageVolt did the same to me and I just gotit fixed this morning
[04:39] <MegaVolt> magical_trevsky: no
[04:39] <MegaVolt> don_jr__: how ?
[04:39] <jhutchins> MegaVolt: Feisty is in #ubuntu+1
[04:40] <don_jr__> MegaVolt sorry, for the missspelling above, but I had the exact same problem, restart the box and get boot in console mode
[04:40] <os2mac> having difficulty adding a printer in cups... attempting to add a tcp/ip printer (its an HP photosmart7660 on a linksys wireless print server) the scanner detects it but I am unable to add the printer.
[04:40] <MegaVolt> ok sorry ... but i think its not really feisty related ... windows xp does behave exactly the same way and 6.06 did too
[04:40] <ubuntu_> so I right click and choose create, and I have create as, partition type and size
[04:40] <jhutchins> os2mac: 	http://tinyurl.com/3csnpd
[04:40] <ubuntu_> it should ne a primary partition or extended one?
[04:44] <acamargob> hi
[04:44] <PF-Away> !hi | acamargob
[04:44] <ubotu> acamargob: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:44] <acamargob> :D
[04:44] <ubuntu_> please guys some help here!
[04:45] <icecruncher> how can you use ubiquity?
[04:45] <PF-Away> ubuntu_: how many partitions do you have?
[04:45] <ubuntu_> 2
[04:45] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(computing)
[04:45] <PF-Away> ubuntu_: use primary then
[04:45] <ubuntu_> one with windoze at 45gg, and the other one free at 29gg
[04:45] <don_jr__> how can I change my resolution from within kde?
[04:46] <PF-Away> don_jr__: System Settings -> Display
[04:46] <acamargob> how can I install java jdk?
[04:46] <jhutchins> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer
[04:46] <don_jr__> PF-Away thanks
[04:47] <PF-Away> !java | acamargob
[04:47] <ubotu> acamargob: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[04:47] <icecruncher> !java > acamargob
[04:47] <icecruncher> sorry
[04:47] <ubuntu_> there is the create as, and partition type that confuse me now
[04:47] <ubuntu_> should it be ext 3 or something else?
[04:47] <don_jr__> lol it won't change it....changes it in the example window, but no real changes on teh desktop when I click apply
[04:47] <os2mac> jhutchins : it never prompts me for a username/passwd it just says failed.
[04:48] <acamargob> what else can i use if not adept?
[04:48] <icecruncher> aptitude
[04:48] <os2mac> acamargob "sudo apt-get update"
[04:49] <os2mac> jhutchins Oh by the way I am on fiesty.
[04:50] <Kispios> An italian?
[04:50] <os2mac> !add printer | os2mac
[04:51] <Kispios> I have a problem with AmaroK
[04:51] <icecruncher> PF-Away: gues what, my entire system f***** up, gotta reinstall
[04:51] <PF-Away> icecruncher: how?
[04:51] <icecruncher> dependacies
[04:51] <PF-Away> :S
[04:52] <jhutchins> icecruncher: that's why it's called beta testing.
[04:52] <icecruncher> dapper???
[04:52] <PF-Away> lol
[04:52] <PF-Away> it should soon be out of beta
[04:52] <icecruncher> LOL
[04:52] <PF-Away> jhutchins: this isn't debian;)
[04:52] <OzeansPrinz> excuse me i opened my com with kubuntu cd. now i am installing kubuntu but for 1 hours it is still installing.i did not finished yet.did i make a mistake or does it takes more than one hour?
[04:52] <Kispios> AmaroK not read My cds
[04:52] <icecruncher> PF-Away: it dapper, not feisty's
[04:53] <ubuntu_> I am stuck still, can I post a screenshot or something to show you guys?
[04:53] <OzeansPrinz> excuse me i opened my com with kubuntu cd. now i am installing kubuntu but for 1 hours it is still installing.i did not finished yet.did i make a mistake or does it takes more than one hour?
[04:53] <icecruncher> OzeansPrinz: it can take longer, I'm stilll waiting for my installer to appear after clicking on it
[04:53] <OzeansPrinz> thank u icecruncher
[04:54] <Kispios> beaucose my system not see the content of cd and dvd
[04:54] <OzeansPrinz> but  i really liked linux it is so nice
[04:54] <icecruncher> np
[04:54] <Kispios> AmaroK not read My cds
[04:54] <Kispios> beaucose my system not see the content of cd and dvd
[04:54] <frojnd> Wht does this mean: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:54] <frojnd> this is when I try sudo apt-get
[04:55] <PF-Away> frojnd: you're running another package program
[04:55] <Kispios> what is the command can be search in apt?
[04:56] <frojnd> PF-Away: how can I kill it couse in terminal there isn't any apt runnung..
[04:56] <PF-Away> Kispios: aptitude search <string>
[04:57] <PF-Away> frojnd: you might be running adept or something
[04:57] <acamargob> Kispios: apt-cache search
[04:57] <sayers> How do I remove a Dir that requires Root yet it has files in it
[04:58] <sayers> sudo rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty doesnt work
[04:58] <soulrider> !adeptfix | frojnd
[04:58] <ubotu> frojnd: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:58] <frojnd> PF-Away: I was running adept, I killed it but I am not able to run apt ..
[04:59] <PF-Away> frojnd: if you're absolutely certain no other package programs are running, do "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock"
[04:59] <soulrider> sayers: try rm -r
[04:59] <PF-Away> and try again
[04:59] <soulrider> !adeptfix | frojnd
[04:59] <ubotu> frojnd: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:59] <PF-Away> !repeat | soulrider
[04:59] <ubotu> soulrider: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:00] <morpheus_74> Hello all.  I just installed K3b on my system running Ubuntu 6.10.  I need to back up a .iso Cd.  If I select CD copy will this make the backup a .iso, or is there something else I need to do?  Also, I noticed I'm given 2 options:  normal copy or clone copy.  What's difference?
[05:01] <frojnd> PF-Away, soulrider didn't help... I ran sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and now it works
[05:02] <ubuntu_> Can somebody guide me with the install/partitioning please as I am going crazy!
[05:02] <morpheus_74> ubuntu_, What do you need help with?  What are you trying to do?
[05:03] <ubuntu_> I am trying to install Kubuntu
[05:03] <ubuntu_> but I am stuc with the repartitioning and what to choose :-(
[05:03] <morpheus_74> ubuntu_, Ok, and you have the Cd in the drive and Kubuntu loaded?
[05:03] <ubuntu_> yes I am passed that Morpheus.
[05:03] <ubuntu_> I am at the Prepare disk spaced window
[05:03] <morpheus_74> ubotu, Alright.  Are you running another os ?
[05:04] <ubuntu_> Yes wincrap xp
[05:04] <acamargob> how can i force links to open in firefox instead of konqueror?
[05:04] <morpheus_74> ubotu, and WinXP is already installed, right?
[05:04] <ubuntu_> and I have two partitions, but one is free and it is 29 gg which I want to use to install K
[05:04] <ubuntu_> Yes xp installed
[05:04] <Kispios> so...apt-cache search program?
[05:04] <[BTF] Chm0d> acamargob,  depends on what program you are using where you click the links
[05:05] <ubuntu_> I think I have to choose manually edit the partition table right?
[05:06] <morpheus_74> ubuntu_, Ok, I assume Gparted is the partition editor that Kubuntu uses?  I am familiar with installing Ubuntu, but I'd assume they are pretty similar.
[05:06] <ubuntu_> yes they look the same to me :-)
[05:06] <ubuntu_> I have three choices, resize, erase or manual edit
[05:07] <morpheus_74> What I did on my pc is left the XP partition alone (make sure you know what partition this is).  Then I created my linux partitions.
[05:07] <ubuntu_> This is where I need help Morpheus
[05:07] <morpheus_74> I had around 20 gigs to make my partitions
[05:07] <ubuntu__> hallo, ist hier jemand der deutsch kann mir helfen wrde?
[05:07] <morpheus_74> I created a root partition /
[05:07] <morpheus_74> a home partition /home
[05:07] <morpheus_74> and a swap partition /
[05:08] <ubuntu_> let's start with root then
[05:08] <morpheus_74> In order of size, I made the root 8gig, the home 10 gig, and the swap 2 gig.
[05:08] <ubuntu_> what is the difference between root and home?
[05:08] <morpheus_74> Ah. The first thing you may be asked to do is to resize the partitions.
[05:09] <ubuntu_> yes
[05:09] <morpheus_74> Root is where all the system "stuff" - for lack of a better word is stored.
[05:09] <ubuntu_> the second partition is greyed out
[05:09] <morpheus_74> home is your space for all your files, music, etc.
[05:09] <ubuntu_> on sda-1 is written in the window
[05:10] <ubuntu_> but strangely the windows partition also has sda-1
[05:10] <morpheus_74> Ok. select the entire 2nd partition by clicking on it, it should highlight a border.
[05:10] <ubuntu_> yes
[05:10] <jhutchins> morpheus_74: Technically, everything is "in" / - that's why it's called the root of the filesystem.
[05:10] <TomStrong> hi peeps,
[05:11] <morpheus_74> now you should see a icon in the upper left that says 'new'.
[05:11] <TomStrong> what is the name of the "tray" applet ?
[05:11] <ubuntu_> no new but create
[05:11] <morpheus_74> jhutchins, You are right.  Thank you for correcting me.  I'm a newbie and still trying to make the switch!  :)
[05:11] <morpheus_74> ubotu, Ok, click create
[05:11] <ubuntu_> me I am in the ditch!
[05:12] <morpheus_74> a box should appear asking you to size the partition.
[05:12] <ubuntu_> create as?
[05:12] <ubuntu_> partition type, label and size
[05:12] <morpheus_74> the as should refer to the type (ext3, ext2), right?
[05:12] <ubuntu_> yes
[05:12] <ubuntu_> which one I choose?
[05:13] <morpheus_74> I use ext3 for root and home, and linux swap for my swap partition.
[05:13] <morpheus_74> so you create one at a time.
[05:13] <morpheus_74> start with root, choose ext3 and select the file size you want.
[05:13] <ubuntu_> so I choose ext3, no label and keep the 29 size?
[05:14] <morpheus_74> ubotu, You'll want to resize root so you have room for your other 2 partitions.
[05:14] <morpheus_74> Try making root 10 gig.
[05:14] <ubuntu_> I don't have to type a label do I?
[05:14] <morpheus_74> ubotu, What are the options for the label
[05:14] <ubuntu_> I want to keep asmuch space as possible for my music and stuff
[05:15] <ubuntu_> none I have to type something if I want
[05:15] <OzeansPrinz> excuse me my kubuntu insatt is opened since one and half hour it is still installing.is there any error or does it take more then one an half hour?
[05:15] <morpheus_74> When I did my install, the next screen asked me what partition I wanted to dedicate to root, home, and swap.
[05:15] <morpheus_74> I think you can leave it empty for now.
[05:16] <OzeansPrinz> excuse me my kubuntu insatt is opened since one and half hour it is still installing.is there any error or does it take more then one an half hour?
[05:17] <ubuntu_> now it asks me to prepare the mount points
[05:17] <OzeansPrinz> any1 can help me? pls
[05:18] <morpheus_74> ubuntu_, This should be where you select what partition size (10 gig, etc) you want to mount.
[05:18] <ubuntu_> windows shows as/media/sda1 and what do I have to choose for the 29gg part then?
[05:18] <ubuntu_> swap/home/boot?
[05:18] <morpheus_74> So you can select the mount point root (/) to go with the partition you sized for root (10gig)
[05:19] <morpheus_74> ubotu, Just leave the windows partition the way it is.
[05:19] <ubuntu_> I have this now:
[05:19] <ubuntu_> The following partitions are going to be formatted:
[05:19] <ubuntu_> partition #2 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) as ext3
[05:19] <morpheus_74> Under the win partition, you should be able to select a new partition and mount point.
[05:19] <ubuntu_> it doesnt seem right
[05:20] <morpheus_74> Which screen are you on?
[05:20] <ubuntu_> I wish they make the installation easier :-)
[05:22] <morpheus_74> ubuntu_, This is the hardest part, and after you do it a time or two it's a breeze.
[05:22] <ubuntu_> I think the mistake I make is to choose 29 in total to create ext 3
[05:22] <ubuntu_> 29 gg
[05:22] <morpheus_74> ubotu, That sounds like that would be it.
[05:22] <morpheus_74> ubotu, You want to split that 29 into 3 different sizes
[05:22] <ubuntu_> so I need to reduce that right?
[05:23] <ubuntu_> I want to keep as much as possible for music and file
[05:23] <matrix> hi, i try to do kind a video demo. what is the best way to play sevral videos simultaneously, lets say, six, evenly arranged on screen?
[05:23] <ubuntu_> my laptop uses 1 gg of ram
[05:23] <morpheus_74> ubuntu_, Yes, 1 partition at 8 gigs, the home at 10 gigs, and then 2 gigs for swap.
[05:24] <morpheus_74> From my understanding, the partition size is all personal preference.
[05:24] <OzeansPrinz> can ony1 help me pls
[05:24] <ubuntu_> I have 29 gg Morpheus, so what would you recommend?
[05:24] <Cosmo_> when I boot up on the grub if I choose ubuntu,kernel 2.6.17-11-generic it boots into a command line but if I choose Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic it boots just fine, how can I fix it so that the first choice boots fine?
[05:25] <korrx> Cosmo : let me guess : only X don't works
[05:26] <Cosmo_> I have no clue, how do I tell (I'm still fairly new to kubuntu/linux)
[05:27] <Tido> does the upgrade tool described at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade not even come up for anyone else?
[05:27] <korrx> ok : I had this problem
[05:28] <ubuntu_> Morpheus how much you think I should choose for ext3 out of the 29gg?
[05:28] <korrx> rebuild a kernel video related module for your new kernel ?
[05:28] <Cosmo_> how do I do that?
[05:29] <ubuntu__> list channel
[05:30] <korrx> with my (f**n)vidia, I lauched a new install with NVIDIA.run
[05:31] <korrx> easy way (but is it good way ?)
[05:31] <fantasy> its this in german ?
[05:32] <benjamin> h
[05:32] <korrx> Cosmo : which videocard you have ?
[05:33] <fantasy> gibts die seite auch in deutsch ?
[05:34] <matrix> can i play multiple videos with mplayer simultaneously?
[05:34] <korrx> vielleicht
[05:34] <Cosmo_> I have a Nvidia Gforce 6600GT
[05:35] <korrx> Cosmo : do you have the nvidia installer ?
[05:35] <bg1256> a
[05:35] <fantasy> kann mir jemand helfen ?
[05:37] <Cosmo_> I think so just trying to find where i put it
[05:37] <korrx> ;)
[05:37] <korrx> slocate NVIDIA*
[05:38] <fantasy> gibts den chatraum auch auf deutsch ?
[05:38] <fdoving> !de | fantasy
[05:38] <ubotu> fantasy: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:39] <fantasy> THANK YOU
[05:39] <Cosmo_> ok I found several, which is the newest version?
[05:42] <korrx> don't remember ?
[05:42] <Cosmo_> ok found the 9775 which acording to Nvidia's site is the newest
[05:42] <korrx> try find the greater n# dequence
[05:43] <korrx> in the .run name
[05:43] <korrx> mine : NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run
[05:44] <korrx> 9775
[05:44] <korrx> good
[05:44] <Cosmo_> just to be on the safe side, downloading a fresh copy now
[05:44] <korrx> I must download it too
[05:45] <Cosmo_> and putting it where I can find it again hehe
[05:45] <korrx> 1.0-9755
[05:48] <Cosmo_> ok got it downloaded
[05:48] <korrx> good
[05:50] <korrx> now try to boot with your new kernel, stay in console and try sudo ./NVIDIA blabla as you're in the appropriate folder
[05:50] <teoma29> anyone know how to adjust brightness on a second monitor? or do I have to configure them as independant? (nvidia driver)
[05:52] <Cosmo_> ok I will try that and see how it works
[05:52] <korrx> ok
[05:53] <gireesh> I have a smp machine but the default in kubuntu is not a smp kernel.. How can i install a smp kernel?
[05:55] <vaio> aloah
[05:56] <korrx> hi
[05:57] <dauoalagio2> after following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP my cupsd.conf doesn't have a Network Options to enter a port on about line 420 in fact it has about 100 lines
[05:59] <markelhas> hi, ppl. how can i set a script to run every time my kubuntu startup?
[05:59] <Iwonder|too> noob question,if i change my repos to festy and do a full upgrade will i get feisty?
[06:00] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: yep
[06:01] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: use  apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:01] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: that just gets a few other packages that apt-get update   wouldn't
[06:01] <Iwonder|too> anything in particular i need to look out for,like grub errors?
[06:01] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: that just gets a few other packages that apt-get upgrade   wouldn't
[06:01] <JohnFlux_> i mean
[06:01] <markelhas> i' need to use ethtool command to set my lan everytime that i start kubuntu how can i do this!? any tips?
[06:02] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: read the link in the topic
[06:02] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: and if your new at this, it might be worth just waiting a week or so more, just to be sure the kinks are ironed out
[06:02] <JohnFlux_> :-)
[06:02] <Iwonder|too> i did,it failed to work,after about 50 tries i figured i was illiterate or there were no upgrades
[06:03] <JohnFlux_> heh
[06:03] <JohnFlux_> does it give an error?
[06:03] <Iwonder|too> no error,the upgrade wizard doesn't start on adept restart
[06:04] <Iwonder|too> well to begin with the full update button doesn't highlight
[06:04] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: I don't know anything about adept sorry
[06:04] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: I can help you if you want to use konsole
[06:04] <JohnFlux_> s/want/don't mind/
[06:04] <nico_> hellow
[06:04] <JohnFlux_> yo
[06:05] <nico_> help me
[06:05] <Iwonder|too> i've ran it before and it workewd just as the link,but i messsed up because i didn't clean my custom repos out of source.list,and resulted in a non bootable system
[06:05] <JohnFlux_> wassup
[06:05] <jhutchins> Actually, there are good reasons to use the update tool, and if it doesn't work you should report it.  You may be able to find help for it in the Feisty channel, which is still #ubuntu+1
[06:05] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: hmm, not good.  so does that mean you boot?
[06:05] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: or did you reinstall or something?
[06:05] <markelhas> i' need to use ethtool command to set my lan everytime that i start kubuntu how can i do this!? any tips?
[06:05] <Iwonder|too> so this time i used the repos from sourcamatic site and just chose feisty
[06:06] <jhutchins> !repeat | markelhas
[06:06] <ubotu> markelhas: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[06:06] <dystopianray_> markelhas: what are you using ethtool for?
[06:06] <Iwonder|too> markelhas: look in /etc/conf.d/network,i think
[06:07] <markelhas> sorry about the repeat :/
[06:07] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: do you need to run ethtool before or after the link is brought up?
[06:08] <mrigns> there is no easter bunny!
[06:08] <Iwonder|too> well more specifically,why are u using ethtool? your nic not reconised or failure to get ip/route?
[06:08] <JohnFlux_> mrigns: just zombies
[06:08] <markelhas> dystopianray_: because if i don't do that i've packet loss when i ping my router. When i type dmesg i've eht0: link down eth0: link up
[06:08] <mrigns> JohnFlux_: :D
[06:09] <dystopianray_> markelhas: what ethtool command are you using?
[06:09] <markelhas> dystopianray_: ethtool -s eth0 duplex full autoneg off speed 100;
[06:10] <dystopianray_> markelhas: so you are having issues with autonegotiation? is it trying to do gigabit by default or something?
[06:10] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: you could add that to a new file  in  /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/
[06:10] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: but follow dystopianray_ first :-)
[06:10] <markelhas> dystopianray_: i don't now, but my lan is 100/10 no giga
[06:11] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: ok thnks
[06:11] <dystopianray_> markelhas: do you think you could pastebin the output of 'ethtool eth0' (or whatever the interface is) before and after you execute that other command with ethtool?
[06:12] <markelhas> dystopianray_: after tyme that comand when i ping my router no more packte loss. I really dont' now why
[06:12] <markelhas> dystopianray_: i can try
[06:12] <markelhas> dystopianray_: can u give the link to past it!?
[06:13] <dystopianray_> !pastebin | markelhas
[06:13] <ubotu> markelhas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <mrigns> !paste
[06:13] <Iwonder|too> so ya say apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:13] <markelhas> dystopianray_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14589/
[06:14] <JohnFlux_> Iwonder|too: yeah
[06:14] <Iwonder|too> k thx
[06:14] <markelhas> dystopianray_: how can i unset the command, can u help out?
[06:14] <dystopianray_> markelhas: well I assume you'll have to bring the interface down and bring it up again
[06:15] <markelhas> dystopianray_: ok
[06:15] <dystopianray_> markelhas: and you might have to unload the nic driver and load it again too
[06:15] <markelhas> be right back
[06:15] <markelhas> dystopianray_: how can i do that!?
[06:16] <dystopianray_> markelhas: do you know what driver your nic is using? what nic do you have?
[06:16] <Edulix> >Z
[06:17] <Edulix> ups :P
[06:17] <markelhas> dystopianray_: this is on-board lan from nvidia, it also have one from 3-com but i cant config it, so i've disabled it
[06:17] <Iwonder|too> man its amazing what a difference g band makes over b
[06:18] <markelhas> dystopianray_: is there any command to reload the nic driver?
[06:19] <dystopianray_> markelhas: yes, run these two commands 'sudo modprobe -r forcedeth' and 'sudo modprobe forcedeth'
[06:19] <Iwonder|too> rmmod and modprobe are your friend
[06:19] <dystopianray_> markelhas: that should reset the card to some default state so that the exact effects of ethtool can be determined
[06:19] <Cosmo_> ok I must not be using the right command, when I put in sudo ./NVIDIA /home/cosmo/Downloads/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run it said ./NVIDIA was a unknown command, what is the correct command to run it?
[06:20] <dystopianray_> Cosmo_: $ sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run
[06:21] <dystopianray_> Cosmo_: you may have to chmod +x the file first if you just downloaded it
[06:21] <dystopianray_> Cosmo_: but you really should be using a .deb
[06:21] <frojnd> !samba
[06:21] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:22] <Cosmo_> to chmod +x it do I just put that plus the file name in the command line?
[06:23] <dystopianray_> Cosmo_: yes that's right, or in kde right click on it go to properties and set the permissions to 'is executable'
[06:24] <eukaryote> Can anyone suggest why some USB devices don't work under kubuntu edgy but do when I run DSL on the same box?
[06:25] <Cosmo_> dystopianray_: thank you very much for the help, I'm trying hard to learn linux because so far I am liking it much more than windows, just have to learn some of the finer points hehe
[06:25] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: edgy and dsl are running wildly differnet kernels
[06:25] <dystopianray_> Cosmo_: no problem, just remember that if you download anything you must specifically mark it as executable to be able to run it
[06:25] <Cosmo_> ah ok
[06:26] <dystopianray_> Cosmo_: although you should rarely ever have to execute any installers since you have package management for most software
[06:26] <markelhas> dystopianray_: now i've packet loss again
[06:26] <markelhas> dystopianray_: after typing does cmds
[06:26] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: sure, but does that mean no go for kubuntu?
[06:27] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: what usb devices aren't working?
[06:27] <Ashex> where do i access kwallet?
[06:27] <chalmer> can somebody tell me how to get "Wine" ?
[06:27] <dystopianray_> Ashex: kwalletmanager
[06:27] <markelhas> dystopianray_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14592/
[06:27] <dystopianray_> chalmer: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:27] <Ashex> ah, thanks dystopianray_
[06:27] <chalmer> ty
[06:27] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: freecom HD; Samsung mp3 just now
[06:27] <dystopianray_> chalmer: or get a newer .deb from edgy-backports
[06:28] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: are they detected at all?
[06:28] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: yes. With the HD dmesg reports "Cannot enable port 4.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?"
[06:29] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: have you tried different usb ports?
[06:29] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: and other distros?
[06:29] <markelhas> dystopianray_: now when i type dmesg the link up and down appens lots of times.
[06:29] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: yes; there are 6 on this old P4, and all have been checked
[06:30] <dystopianray_> markelhas: so even after you do the normal command you run you are still getting packet loss?
[06:30] <dystopianray_> markelhas: what is the result of 'ethtool eth0' after you run that other command that fixes your problem?
[06:31] <Ashex> anyone have experience with grub splash images?
[06:31] <markelhas> dystopianray_: sudo ethtool -s eth0 duplex full autoneg off speed 100;
[06:31] <markelhas> dystopianray_: ups sorry http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14589/
[06:32] <dystopianray_> markelhas: and running that command now gives you no packet loss?
[06:32] <markelhas> dystopianray_: but this time didn't reslved 100% because i steel i've some packet loss
[06:32] <chalmer> dystopianray> is there a program like "Synaptic " that i can use ?
[06:32] <markelhas> dystopianray_: yap
[06:33] <chalmer> dystopianray> is there a program like "Synaptic " that i can use ?
[06:33] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: Only tried a DSL live CD. I _think_ this box had Kubuntu dapper on and it didn't like the USB
[06:33] <korrx> Adept
[06:33] <Ashex> if you want something like the synaptic package manager
[06:33] <dystopianray_> chalmer: adept
[06:33] <Ashex> use adept_manager
[06:33] <chalmer> dystopianray> ok
[06:33] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: do you have any other livecds?
[06:34] <dystopianray_> chalmer: in the kmenyu go to 'system -> adept manager'
[06:34] <markelhas> dystopianray_: i'm having this problem for some weeks, and i simple cant resolve it.
[06:34] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: Not at the moment. What do you suggest?
[06:34] <dystopianray_> markelhas: have you tried using a different cable?
[06:34] <sh4rk0> hello
[06:34] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: ah I'm not really sure, anything will do I guess, fedora core or opensuse maybe
[06:35] <markelhas> dystopianray_: the problem is not from the router, because i've used the same cable on a laptop with kubuntu also and there i don't have packet loss
[06:35] <sh4rk0> #kubuntu-fr
[06:35] <Ashex> Get a knoppix disc
[06:35] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: have you tried looking in the forums or googling for similar problems with your mobo?
[06:35] <markelhas> dystopianray_: yes
[06:36] <eukaryote> I'll make another live CD and check it out
[06:36] <markelhas> dystopianray_: if i use wifi in the laptop no problems to, only on this desktop :( that i use to downloads stuff via p2p
[06:37] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: Yes, I have searched fairly widely. I thought it might be an edgy issue, so that's why I came here.
[06:37] <markelhas> dystopianray_: i really don't now what to do, now i've set the speed to 10 and no packet loss. i don't now if this command is working at all
[06:37] <dystopianray_> markelhas: it could just be that forcedeth is crap in edgy's kernel
[06:38] <jhutchins> markelhas: Have you considered the possibility that your card is bad?
[06:38] <dystopianray_> markelhas: if you can, try the feisty beat livecd, or wait a few days and try the release candidate which should be out later this week
[06:38] <dystopianray_> markelhas: have you tried any other distros or operating systems with the card?
[06:38] <markelhas> jhutchins: i've tryed with 2 different pci cards and the same resultb :(
[06:38] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: have you tried it out with the feisty livecd?
[06:38] <dystopianray_> markelhas: what? different nics are giving the same packet loss problems?
[06:39] <markelhas> dystopianray_: before kubuntu i've used windows xp, and no problems, and i've used it with kubuntu with no problems to when i installed it
[06:39] <dougtx> anyone know about getting volume control buttons on a laptop to work
[06:39] <dougtx> it always worked before, but I did a new install of edgy and they dont work
[06:40] <dystopianray_> dougtx: usually they work by default
[06:40] <dougtx> worked in previous edgy
[06:40] <dougtx> right
[06:40] <markelhas> dystopianray_: yes, diferent nics same problem
[06:40] <dougtx> but this time they dont work...it's strange
[06:40] <Jump86> is it possible to have both KDE and gnome and switch between?
[06:40] <dougtx> yes
[06:40] <dougtx> jump86
[06:40] <Jump86> will not mess up stuff?
[06:40] <dougtx> nope
[06:40] <dougtx> after you install one or the other, just install it
[06:41] <dougtx> it will be a selection at the login screen
[06:41] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: Didn't know feisty was that advanced. Sounds like a good idea.
[06:41] <chalmer> dystopianray>  adept " is'nt showing me it. when i type wine n tha search
[06:41] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: it's set to be released on the week of april 19
[06:41] <jhutchins> !repos | chalmer
[06:41] <ubotu> chalmer: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:41] <jhutchins> !info wine
[06:41] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[06:41] <dystopianray_> chalmer: you need to enable the universe repositry
[06:42] <chalmer> dystopianray>  lol" how do i do that?
[06:42] <markelhas> dystopianray_: how can i update my kubuntu release to the beta one?
[06:42] <eukaryote> dystopianray_: The other solution is to trash this old remaindered PC :-)
[06:42] <dystopianray_> markelhas: I'm not really sure, i think there is an updater, try #ubuntu+1
[06:42] <dystopianray_> markelhas: I would just recommend trying the livecd first though, and seeing if it still has the same problems
[06:42] <jhutchins> markelhas: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[06:42] <dougtx> chalmer: just go into adept
[06:42] <dystopianray_> eukaryote: that is also an option, but it's more satisfying to fix a problem
[06:42] <dougtx> go into manage repositories, right click on the ones you want, and click add
[06:43] <dougtx> then update
[06:43] <chalmer> ok
[06:43] <markelhas> dystopianray_: with the live cd sometimes works ok.
[06:43] <dystopianray_> markelhas: the feisty livecd?
[06:43] <markelhas> dystopianray_: nopes the 6.10
[06:43] <markelhas> dystopianray_: edgy i think
[06:44] <chalmer> dystopianray>  ok
[06:44] <dystopianray_> dougtx: in 'system settings -> accessibility -> input actions' you can setup the multimedia keys to change the system volume using amixer or dcop calls to kmix, if the keys have some keysym associated with them though
[06:44] <dystopianray_> markelhas: if you can try the feisty livecd
[06:45] <sh4rk0_> hacking-tools for security please ??? url ? apt ?
[06:45] <Ashex> if the system reboots during the boot-up, which log should I check?
[06:45] <Cosmo_> I forget what is the terminal command for copying a file?
[06:45] <dougtx> cp
[06:45] <markelhas> dystopianray_: ok, i'm going to download it
[06:45] <dystopianray_> sh4rk0_: what exactly do you want to do?
[06:45] <dougtx> cosmo: cp
[06:45] <dougtx> cp file where you want to copy it
[06:46] <dougtx> cp [file name]  [where it is going] 
[06:46] <markelhas> dystopianray_: if it works can i install it, without lossing my stuff that i have right now?
[06:46] <dougtx> depending where you are sending it, you may need sudo
[06:46] <chalmer> dystopianray>  ok i got Adept open . now what?
[06:46] <dystopianray_> markelhas: I believe so, you can get specific help with feisty in #ubuntu+1
[06:47] <dystopianray_> chalmer: ah i'm not sure, i always edit the sources file manually, dougtx was telling you how to do it in adept earlier
[06:47] <markelhas> dystopianray_: ok then, thnks for the help
[06:47] <chalmer> dystopianray>  O" ok let me hit him up
[06:47] <chalmer> dystopianray>  ty
[06:48] <dougtx> hey chalmer
[06:48] <dougtx> in teh system area of the taskbar
[06:48] <dougtx> just go into adept
[06:48] <sh4rk0_> I would like to test my system has bottom because I do not arrive has
[06:48] <sh4rk0_> to use nessus
[06:49] <sh4rk0_> sorry for my english
[06:49] <korrx> So now Cosmo ??
[06:49] <dougtx> go to view, then manage repositories
[06:49] <dystopianray_> sh4rk0_: there is a ubuntu derivative called 'nubuntu' which is loaded with security related tools, it might be helpful
[06:49] <dougtx> you will see areas grayed out that say "deb" and "deb-src"
[06:50] <dougtx> right click on them, and then click enable, they will turn black
[06:50] <dougtx> after you are done with them, click apply
[06:50] <dougtx> then at the main area click "fetch updates"
[06:50] <dougtx> should be all set
[06:51] <chalmer> dougtx> how did u say that i Adept to get wine?
[06:51] <dougtx> well, you first need to enable all the repositories
[06:51] <sh4rk0_> but I cannot install the apt nubuntu on the kubuntu?
[06:51] <chalmer> ok how do i do that?
[06:51] <dougtx> then it should be as simple as searching for wine in adept
[06:52] <dougtx> or just going to a command line and tryping sudo apt-get install wine
[06:52] <dougtx> but you need to have the proper repositories enabled first
[06:52] <chalmer> ok how do i do that?
[06:52] <dougtx> ok
[06:52] <dougtx> you are in kubuntu, correct?
[06:52] <chalmer> y
[06:52] <dougtx> click on the K in the bottom left corner
[06:53] <korrx> Cosmo_ : all worx now ?
[06:53] <chalmer> ok
[06:53] <dougtx> go up to system, then select ADEPT(package manager)
[06:53] <chalmer> ok
[06:53] <dougtx> enter your password
[06:53] <chalmer> k
[06:53] <dougtx> lemme know when u in there
[06:53] <chalmer> k
[06:53] <dougtx> now click on VIEW
[06:53] <chalmer> im n
[06:53] <dougtx> and then MANAGE REPOSITORIES
[06:54] <chalmer> ok
[06:54] <dougtx> see how there is a bunch of stuff grayed out
[06:54] <chalmer> y
[06:54] <dougtx> the first two shoudl be in black text, right
[06:54] <Oleswen> hi
[06:54] <dougtx> if you look down, you will see two lines that start with "comment"
[06:54] <dougtx> then two that start with deb and deb src
[06:55] <dougtx> right click on the one that starts with deb
[06:55] <dougtx> then click enable
[06:55] <dougtx> do that with all of the lnes that START with DEB or DEB-SRC
[06:55] <dougtx> lemme know when you are done with that
[06:55] <Oleswen> hey, I tried to play to Supertux but the game was very very slow, what is the problem ?
[06:56] <dystopianray_> dougtx: no, not all lines, that'll get him edgy-backports as well, which he might not want
[06:56] <dougtx> oh oh
[06:56] <dougtx> right
[06:56] <dystopianray_> Oleswen: you are probably lacking 3d acceleration
[06:56] <dougtx> just do any marked "edgy
[06:56] <dougtx> edgy updates
[06:57] <Oleswen> I don't understand (I'm French), the game is in 2D, not 3D
[06:57] <Cosmo_> korrx: sorry was afk, yep got it working
[06:57] <dystopianray_> Oleswen: I'm pretty sure supertux uses opengl for it's rendering
[06:57] <korrx> great
[06:57] <Cosmo_> korrx: that fixed it
[06:57] <JohnFlux2> Oleswen: 2D uses 3D acceleration
[06:58] <jhutchins> dougtx: Hey, do you suppose someone could write this up as a web page?  Then they could post it somewhere like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu, and there could be a page explaining what repositories are, like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories, with a link to how to manage them.  We could even put a factoid in the bot for
[06:58] <dystopianray_> Oleswen: what video card do you have?
[06:58] <jhutchins> !repos
[06:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:58] <korrx> I'm happy 4 u
[06:58] <Oleswen> dystopianray_: I don't know
[06:58] <dougtx> jhutchins, sounds good to me
[06:58] <Oleswen> I will see
[06:58] <jhutchins> Sure would save bandwidth.
[06:58] <hammer> anyone here good at drivers?
[06:58] <dougtx> yeah
[06:58] <Nick^69> hi all
[06:58] <dougtx> i guess it really isnt covered anywhere
[06:58] <hammer> seem to be having video card issues
[06:58] <dystopianray_> hammer: what drivers?
[06:59] <dougtx> seems simple to regular users, but new users shoudl have that
[06:59] <sh4rk0_> on the other hand I have a small problem. My mouse blocks itself
[06:59] <sh4rk0_> during 10 seconds every minute
[06:59] <chalmer> dougtx> ok i enabled all grey that said edgy / edgy updates
[06:59] <korrx> Gates sold you windows / GNU gave us the whole house
[06:59] <dougtx> cool
[06:59] <dougtx> ok, now click on apply
[06:59] <Cosmo_> now if I can just get my work software and a few other things working right I should be able to say buh-bye to windows
[06:59] <hammer> e-GeForce 7600 GS
[06:59] <korrx> ^^
[06:59] <dougtx> then close
[06:59] <dougtx> then in the main window of adept, click on "fetch updates"
[07:00] <dougtx> this will allow the program to search the new repositories for available packages
[07:01] <chalmer> dougtx> wine" is what i need to install AOE?
[07:01] <korrx> on which software are you used to work with ?
[07:01] <korrx> cosmo ?
[07:02] <dougtx> ok
[07:02] <dougtx> are you still in adept?
[07:03] <dougtx> go to the search box in adept, and type in wine, and hit enter
[07:03] <chalmer> lol" y
[07:04] <billy> hey, does anybody know of any good tax software for Linux?
[07:04] <Kr4t05> Why does K3b allow you to format DVD+/-RW but not CD-RW?
[07:04] <dougtx> did it bring up a list chalmer?
[07:04] <Kr4t05> billy: GNUCASH?
[07:05] <Kr4t05> Maybe?
[07:05] <korrx> gnucash : escellent
[07:05] <chalmer> dougtx> ok after i click "fetgh updates"  it shows a list of updates thats not install. do i need to install these?
[07:05] <billy> ok, thanks, i'll give it a try
[07:06] <frojnd> :S why I can't get my samba work right? I make a new unix user, also smb user and I went into SystemSettings -> sharing -> file sharing and I added enable LNSHARING,advanced sharing: use samba microsoft R. And I still can't see XP files. oh and XP user has MSHOME group
[07:06] <dougtx> ok, all you need to do is go up to the search box
[07:06] <dougtx> and type in wine
[07:06] <dougtx> dont worry about that stuff for now
[07:06] <chalmer> dougtx> ok
 gnucash is sure a good choice
[07:07] <dougtx> a list shoudl pop up in the bottom left with wine related packages
[07:07] <chalmer> dougtx> y
[07:07] <Kr4t05> korrx: billy was the one who asked.
[07:07] <chalmer> dougtx> like 5 of them
[07:07] <korrx> Ooops
[07:07] <dougtx> look for a package that ONLY says "wine"
[07:08] <chalmer> dougtx> ok
[07:08] <dougtx> right click on "wine", and click on request install
[07:08] <chalmer> dougtx> ok
[07:08] <dougtx> then click on "apply changes"
[07:08] <chalmer> dougtx> ok
[07:09] <dougtx> you shoudl see it start to install stuff
[07:09] <chalmer> dougtx> y
[07:09] <colinmcd> does anyone know if knetworkmanager should work with a centrino wireless (ipw2200) without any configuration??
[07:10] <dystopianray_> colinmcd: works fine for me
[07:10] <dougtx> when it's done, wine should be installed
[07:10] <tuco_> I can't find Firefox to in adept, although I have enabled universe multiverse. I also need to install Ati drivers to run in 1280x800 on my laptop
[07:11] <colinmcd> dystopian...  you didn't have to mess with drivers or anything? i'm having a hell of a time
[07:12] <dystopianray_> colinmcd: try editing /etc/network/interfaces and comment or delete the lines for the wireless network interface
[07:13] <korrx> http://www.mozilla-europe.org/fr/products/firefox/
[07:13] <chalmer> dougtx> ok is this a program?
[07:13] <colinmcd> oh ok cool man thanks..it's weird because i can use 'wireless assistant'..but the networkmanager doesn't even pickup a wireless interface..
[07:13] <dougtx> well that is wine
[07:13] <colinmcd> i'll try that, thanks for the help !!
[07:13] <dougtx> it is what will enable windows software to run in linux
[07:13] <dougtx> what are you trying to run?
[07:13] <dougtx> age of empires?
[07:14] <korrx> http://getswiftfox.com/
[07:14] <chalmer> dougtx> ok is this a program that im gonna need to run b/4 i install that game?
[07:14] <korrx> dorry
[07:14] <dystopianray_> colinmcd: I think network-manager ignores interfaces that are in /etc/network/interfaces, I can't remember
[07:14] <korrx> sorry
[07:14] <dougtx> no
[07:14] <dystopianray_> colinmcd: you'll have to comment or delete the lines and probably reboot
[07:14] <dougtx> you will install the game USING wine
[07:15] <chalmer> dougtx> ok
[07:15] <Cosmo_> anyone have any suggestions for good FPS games or other games available through synaptic?
[07:15] <sparr> any time I run an X app from a terminal, I get some output like this before it starts.  whats up?  "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169"
[07:15] <korrx> try www.warsow.net
[07:16] <chalmer> dougtx> ok , ty
[07:16] <dystopianray_> Cosmo_: nethack is cool
[07:16] <dougtx> so what you would do is say put in the cd
[07:16] <dougtx> go to the directory of the CD
[07:16] <dougtx> and if the aoe install file is install.exe
[07:16] <korrx> ennemy territory (not gpl but free2use/play)
[07:16] <dougtx> you would type in a command prompt
[07:16] <dougtx> wine install.exe
[07:16] <dystopianray_> sparr: that is probably from the wacom devices that seem to be automatically put in xorg.conf, it's fine to ignore them, or remove the devices from xorg.conf
[07:17] <ubuntu_> hi all
[07:17] <korrx> hi
[07:17] <tuco_> thanks korrx, but what I am supposed to do with the file now :-)?
[07:18] <korrx> which one ?
[07:18] <tuco_> reg firefox?
[07:18] <korrx> tuco ?
[07:18] <korrx> ok
[07:18] <tuco_> you gace me the download link in French
[07:18] <tuco_> gave
[07:18] <korrx> sorry 4that
[07:18] <korrx> http://getswiftfox.com/
[07:18] <uciu> gdzie jest katalog z ikonkami?
[07:18] <uciu> w gnome?
[07:18] <tuco_> no worries I can read the language, I just need to know how to install it now
[07:19] <korrx> maybe is it an installer ?
[07:19] <chalmer> dougtx> so i got to open a terminal and type "wine install.exe "
[07:19] <korrx> what's the file's name ?
[07:19] <dougtx> what I would do is,
[07:19] <dougtx> is the aoe game on a cd?
[07:20] <chalmer> dougtx> y
[07:20] <tuco_> it isn't sorry
[07:20] <dougtx> ok, put the cd in the drive
[07:20] <tuco_> just a tar file with firefox. How can I install it now please?
[07:21] <tuco_> it should be in adept no?
[07:21] <korrx> tuco : you must download swiftfox : optimized for your cpu
[07:21] <dougtx> tar -zxvf (filename
[07:21] <tuco_> it is your duo core
[07:21] <korrx> then extract bz2 archive
[07:21] <sparr> thanks dystopianray_
[07:21] <busfahrer> Excuse me, I just tried to change the default app for a text document (no extension), and one of the option was 'use settings from the text group'. No I want to change the default app for the text group instead, how would I go about that?
[07:23] <dystopianray_> busfahrer: you want to change the entire text group?
[07:23] <busfahrer> dystopianray_: the default app for it, not sure whats in it though.
[07:23] <tuco_> Dude why would I want swiftfox really? All I need is firefox and the lovely ati drivers (that give me a hell of a headache)
[07:23] <dystopianray_> busfahrer: the text group includes things like html, xml, latex, calendars and vcards, things you probably don't want to all have the same app assocated with
[07:23] <busfahrer> dystopianray_: Oh, OK. Thank you. :-)
[07:24] <dystopianray_> tuco_: sudo apt-get install firefox
[07:24] <dystopianray_> tuco_: no need to bother with tarballs or swiftfox, it's in the repos
[07:24] <chalmer> dougtx> ok when i inserted tha cd a window "AOE-KDE Deamon " open'd. it says " a new medium has been detected. what do u want to do?
[07:24] <dougtx> ok, just say to do nothing
[07:24] <terrestre> hi
[07:24] <korrx> RIGHT
[07:25] <korrx> better way
[07:25] <dougtx> then open a terminal window
[07:25] <terrestre> i have a question, can be use the same swap for differente linux distro?
[07:25] <chalmer> dougtx> ok
[07:25] <fdoving> terrestre: yes.
[07:25] <dougtx> type /cdrom
[07:25] <dougtx> or no
[07:25] <dougtx> hehe
[07:26] <dougtx> cd /cdrom
[07:26] <dystopianray_> terrestre: yes, but if one of the distros hibernates, booting into another distro will destroy the hibernate image
[07:26] <chalmer> dougtx> ok
[07:27] <terrestre> thanks fdoving and dystopianray_
[07:27] <andreasw> how can you tune your ide devices in feisty? Because everything is scsi now
[07:27] <andreasw> and hdparm won't work
[07:27] <korrx> http://discoverx.wordpress.com/2007/03/12/a-fast-way-to-install-ati-and-nvidia-drivers-in-ubuntu/
[07:27] <terrestre> jaja hi emoXcore
[07:27] <dougtx> now type ls
[07:27] <dougtx> is there an install file?
[07:27] <dougtx> like install.exe
[07:27] <aeergalus> hola hay alguien quer hable espaol?
[07:27] <dystopianray_> andreasw: what tuning do you want?
[07:27] <Brutal-Fashion> Hola
[07:27] <terrestre> hi Brutal-Fashion
[07:27] <Brutal-Fashion> Hi
[07:28] <andreasw> dystopianray_: well I always switched -m16 on
[07:28] <terrestre> how are you Brutal-Fashion
[07:28] <Brutal-Fashion> I need a page in  spanish please?
[07:28] <aeergalus> yo tambien
[07:28] <Brutal-Fashion> I'm fine terrestre
[07:28] <terrestre> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:29] <ace> hi all
[07:29] <chalmer> dougtx> i see a icon that says " aoeinstall.exe"
[07:29] <andreasw> dystopianray_: I also don't see if dma is on or not
[07:29] <ace> anyone manage to get the mplayer plugin to work with opera?
[07:29] <dougtx> ok, so type wine aoeinstall.exe
[07:29] <dystopianray_> andreasw: dma and multimode should be enabled automatically by libata
[07:29] <terrestre> ahiestan las paginasen espaol
[07:30] <dougtx> should start up the aoe install
[07:30] <andreasw> dystopianray_: and where can I see if it is really enabled?
[07:30] <Brutal-Fashion> hey in russian page ?
[07:30] <dystopianray_> andreasw: i'm not really sure
[07:30] <terrestre> para q si no hablas ruso
[07:32] <terrestre> yesterday I tried to install edubuntu, and use the same swap and something goes wrong, so kubuntu lost the swap, so this is a fresh formating ubuntu
[07:32] <JohnFlux2>  andreasw: hdparm  should be able to tell you
[07:32] <chalmer> dougtx> the konsole says this "
[07:32] <chalmer> wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\aoeinstall.exe": Module not found
[07:32] <chalmer> chalmer@kubuntu:/cdrom
[07:32] <andreasw> JohnFlux2: not really
[07:32] <dystopianray_> chalmer: what command did you run?
[07:33] <dougtx> I am not of much help regarding wine, I actually use crossover for the small amount of windows programs I use
[07:33] <chalmer> wine aoeinstall.exe
[07:33] <Brutal-Fashion> Komn rette mich
[07:33] <dystopianray_> chalmer: is the file 'aoeinstall.exe' in the current directory?
[07:33] <andreasw> JohnFlux2: Feisty uses SCSI devices even for ide drives so hdparm won't show any detailed information because it thinks that it is a scsi device
[07:33] <dystopianray_> chalmer: it is case sensitive, Aoeinstall.exe is different from aoeinstall.exe, for eample
[07:33] <terrestre> !ru
[07:33] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:33] <terrestre> !rs
[07:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:34] <terrestre> !ru | Brutal-Fashion
[07:34] <ubotu> Brutal-Fashion: please see above
[07:34] <Brutal-Fashion> thanks
[07:35] <MinceR> i use gdm. when i log out of kde, some of the filesystems i automount at boot get unmounted. how can i prevent this from happening?
[07:36] <chalmer> dougtx> O" my bad. theres no icon on tha cd that says "install.exe , but there is one named "aoesetup.exe"
[07:36] <dystopianray_> MinceR: nothing should be unmounted by a logout
[07:36] <MinceR> i know
[07:36] <MinceR> yet it happens
[07:36] <adaptr> dystopianray_: unless the command to unmount is in the users' logout scripts
[07:37] <adaptr> as they frequently are
[07:37] <terrestre> !en
[07:37] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:37] <chalmer> dougtx> so i need to type "wine install setup.exe"
[07:37] <CarinArr> !bluetooth
[07:37] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[07:37] <dougtx> no
[07:38] <dougtx> I would type in "wine aoesetup.exe
[07:38] <MinceR> i'll check if i can unmount them as non-root
[07:38] <dougtx> from the cdrom directory
[07:38] <chalmer> lol yea thats 1
[07:38] <jash> Has anyone succeded in building large collections (30 000 mp3's) in amarok 1.4.5 with kubuntu feisty?
[07:38] <nightsky> !iptables
[07:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:38] <dystopianray_> chalmer: pastebin the output of 'ls' when you are inside the cdrom directory
[07:39] <MinceR> i can't umount it as user, so i suspect gdm does it for some reason...
[07:39] <jash> Amarok seems to crash on random files, or give me an error message on random mp3's.
[07:39] <dystopianray_> MinceR: gdm shouldn't be mounting or unmounting anything
[07:39] <MinceR> i know, but it happens :)
[07:39] <darryl_> any of you guys use nomachine NX Client to connect to Kubuntu from WinDOZE?
[07:40] <MinceR> where should i look for the logout script?
[07:40] <frojnd> Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.  This is about samba. Does that mean that XP user doesn't has anything under share?
[07:40] <chalmer> dougtx> wheres that at "pastbin" my konsole?
[07:40] <chalmer> dougtx> whats the address
[07:41] <dystopianray_> frojnd: are you using konqueror?
[07:41] <dystopianray_> !pastebin | chalmer
[07:41] <ubotu> chalmer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:41] <frojnd> dystopianray_: yep
[07:41] <dystopianray_> frojnd: specify the machine's ip address directly, smb://192.168.1.2 for example
[07:42] <dystopianray_> frojnd: if there is a valid workgroup, it's possible that a workgroup master server has not yet been assigned, that can take a few minutes
[07:42] <dougtx> doug@doug-laptop:/$ ls
[07:42] <dougtx> bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  var
[07:42] <dougtx> boot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[07:42] <dougtx> just copy paste the contents after typing ls
[07:42] <dougtx> paste it right into the window
[07:42] <frojnd> dystopianray_: now I see XP user, but he can't see me, or my shares..
[07:42] <the_hammer> can someone help me with display drivers? i have e-GeForce 7600 GS video card i see linux IA32 and linux IA64 here http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp i have intel duocore machine but running 32bit kubuntu
[07:43] <dystopianray_> frojnd: you probably need to wait for one of the machines to become the workgroup master
[07:43] <the_hammer> anyone?
[07:44] <frojnd> dystopianray_ ? what do u mean? is there something with workgroups, XP user is MSHOME
[07:44] <chalmer> dougtx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14598/
[07:44] <dystopianray_> frojnd: AFAIK you can't browse a smb workgroup unless a master has been assigned, it can take several minutes for one of the machines to decide to be the workgroup master
[07:44] <darryl_> the_hammer: you never asked a real question
[07:45] <frojnd> dystopianray_>: oh..
[07:45] <spawn57> the_hammer: you need to enable the restricted repositories, and download the restricted kernel modules.
[07:45] <the_hammer> i was asking for help with display drivers
[07:45] <dystopianray_> frojnd: can the xp client specify an ip address to access the shares of directly?
[07:45] <spawn57> the_hammer: and then reconfigure x to use the nvidia driver instead of the nv driver.
[07:45] <frojnd> dystopianray_: let me check
[07:45] <the_hammer> Linux duocore 2.6.20-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Apr 7 03:56:17 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:47] <the_hammer> this is from my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/430028
[07:47] <chalmer> dougtx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14598/
[07:48] <eilker> http://localhost/phpMyAdmin isnt it correct ?
[07:48] <the_hammer> what do i edit if anything needs to be edited?
[07:48] <dougtx> ok, so all you shoudl need to do is go to  cd /media/cdrom0
[07:48] <terrestre> what its the name of the update manager
[07:48] <frojnd> dystopianray_: how can XP user with explorer write similar than me with konqueror smb://IP
[07:48] <dougtx> then type "wine aoesetup.exe"
[07:48] <adaptr> terrestre: erm.. update-manager ?
[07:48] <spawn57> the_hammer: your repositories seem fine, you need to download the linux-restricted-modules for you kernel
[07:49] <adaptr> terrestre: way too obvious, I know - Ubuntu is like that
[07:49] <the_hammer> ok where do i go for that
[07:49] <spawn57> but you're running a 2.6.20 kernel, edgy is 2.6.17, did you recompile that kernel yourself or did you upgrade to fesisty?
[07:50] <the_hammer> the trunk on my sources list is for kernels i just did apt-cache search kernel image and thats the 1 i chose
[07:50] <the_hammer> im still on edgy
[07:51] <spawn57> the_hammer: alright then hopefully they have the package for restricted modules too, do apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules and check if there's a package for 2.6.20
[07:52] <frojnd> dystopianray_: XP user now can see my files, only that he got message that he doesn't has writes to access
[07:52] <c1|freaky> is firefox now called iceweasel in feisty?
[07:52] <spawn57> don't think so, that's more for debian
[07:52] <the_hammer> nope but i did find these
[07:53] <the_hammer> nvidia-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary kernel module source
[07:53] <the_hammer> nvidia-legacy-kernel-source - NVIDIA binary 'legacy' kernel module source
[07:53] <terrestre> adaptr: thanks, its not intalled
[07:53] <adaptr> terrestre: so you messed with it ? or perhaps K uses another tool.. yeah, I think that may be it
[07:53] <spawn57> i'm not sure if those will work
[07:54] <terrestre> adaptr: this is a fresh install, i dont even update, maybe its other name
[07:54] <c1|freaky> maybe he has backports repository added or whatever
[07:54] <adaptr> !update
[07:54] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[07:55] <spawn57> the_hammer:  you might wanna look at nvidia's  help site, it has a shell script that you can download and run, and it'll compile hte module for you.  all you'd have to do is dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server after that and choose the defaults, for everythign except the driver, which should be set to nvidia.   I think the scrip updates your xorg.conf for you though, don't recall clearly
[07:55] <the_hammer> not sure what to do i just know im having display issues
[07:56] <the_hammer> ok can ya help me with a link?
[07:56] <spawn57> i guess, hang on
[07:56] <the_hammer> http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp im here atm
[07:57] <spawn57> the_hammer: graphics driver, GeForce and TNT2, Linux IA32
[07:58] <smile> hi linuxians .. can I program in Pascal with Kdevelop
[07:58] <spawn57> the_hammer: download that file, chmod +x it and run it, you might have to run it as root, in that case do sudo -i, type in your password and run it
[07:59] <the_hammer> i just do sudo su i have a term ready
[07:59] <chalmer> dougtx> it want to install to this directory" c:\program file\microsoft games\age of empires" is that correct?
[07:59] <spawn57> ah that workse as well, sudo -i might be better haha
[08:01] <chalmer> dougtx> it want to install to this directory" c:\program file\microsoft games\age of empires" is that correct?
[08:01] <the_hammer> says i need to close xserver to install not sure how to do this
[08:02] <spawn57> the_hammer: log out of kde, hit ctrl+alt+f1 and log into a console
[08:02] <smile> the_hammer: friend .. i think u need a nVidia driver !!?
[08:02] <spawn57> the_hammer: switch to su, type in invoke-rc.d kdm stop
[08:02] <spawn57> and run it
[08:03] <spawn57> back up your xorg.conf first, incase anythign goes wrong
[08:03] <aaroncampbell> I can't seem to update anything via adept...it keeps giving me an error that there was a problem committing the changes...maybe a package didn't get downloaded right
[08:03] <aaroncampbell> Is there a way to sort of "clear it out" and try again? It looks like a package that I used alien on is working, but causing problems (http://paste-bin.com/11369)
[08:03] <the_hammer> root@duocore:/home/hammer/Desktop# invoke-rc.d kdm
[08:03] <the_hammer> invoke-rc.d: syntax error: missing required parameter
[08:04] <LjL> the_hammer: it's either invoke-rc.d kdm start, or ... stop, or ... restart
[08:04] <spawn57> aaroncampbell: in a console tyr doing, apt-get remove <package name>, yo uhave to be root/sudo
[08:04] <spawn57> it's stop, you forgot the stop
[08:04] <smile> the_hammer: if u need the latest nVidia driver http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html
[08:04] <the_hammer> ahh ok forgot the stop
[08:04] <aaroncampbell> spawn57: I tried that, I get almost the same as what's in that paste from the install -f, but I'll paste it for you
[08:05] <spawn57> alrighty
[08:05] <chalmer> dougtx
[08:05] <aaroncampbell> spawn57: http://paste-bin.com/11376
[08:06] <chalmer> need help installing AOE with wine?
[08:06] <spawn57> try dpkg --purge magicolor2430dl
[08:07] <aaroncampbell> spawn57: error
[08:08] <aaroncampbell> spawn57: exact error: http://paste-bin.com/11377
[08:09] <chalmer> AOE's wants to install to this directory" c:\program files\microsoft games\age of empires "  this cant b the correct direcrory for kubuntu is it?
[08:10] <spawn57> aaroncampbell: crap, I'm not sure what else you can do after that =\
[08:11] <aaroncampbell> spawn57: Now I have a love/hate with alien...it let my printer work...but it jacked everything else.
[08:11] <the_hammer> i have an idea noit sure if this would work but can i wine the drivers from my cd?
[08:11] <spawn57> =\ i never use that, I bet there's a way to salvage it though, not sure how.  You could try asking in #debian
[08:12] <chalmer>  HELP !!!!! AOE's wants to install to this directory" c:\program files\microsoft games\age of empires "  this cant b the correct direcrory for kubuntu is it?
[08:12] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: That's fairly simple.
[08:12] <the_hammer> what are you using to do that chalmer?
[08:13] <openstandards> chalmer: 1, don't type in caps 2, wine creates a directory called drive_c
[08:13] <the_hammer> are u using wine
[08:13] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: First, file a bugreport that shows the "expecting fi" part.
[08:13] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: Are you going to be my hero?
[08:13] <the_hammer> cool game btw
[08:13] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Next, look for the config files and remove them manually.
[08:13] <aaroncampbell> you mean the .postrm file?
[08:14] <chalmer> the_hammer? im useing wine
[08:14] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: You could even go into the svn repository, copy the purge script, and add the missinf fi so it would run.
[08:14] <frojnd> allright guys sugget me any good divx players that support subtitles ?
[08:14] <the_hammer> cool
[08:14] <caris_mere> I had a major crash a few minutes ago.  My computer powered off and wouldn't start again.  it's working now, but I'd like to run tests.  Do you know of any good ones?
[08:14] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: huh?  This isn't in a repository...it's a driver from Konica Minolta
[08:14] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Usually, removing a package will leave any modified config file behind.  All the purge script does is automatically remove them.
[08:15] <the_hammer> it makes a bogus directory kinda BUT to keep track make a folder yourself and put your game in there and point wine to it
[08:15] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: How nice of them to release untested software.
[08:15] <the_hammer> that way ya wont lose track of anything
[08:15] <JohnFlux2> caris_mere: man fdisk    and look for badblocks   for a low level scan of the hard disk
[08:15] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Probably just leave them an email or feedback or something then, I doubt they have a formal bugreport system.
[08:16] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I don't think it's their fault...they released a .rpm, and a .tar.gz...I couldn't get the tar.gz to compile, so I tried alien on the rpm
[08:16] <chalmer> the_hammer? so i leave the default directory c:\program file\microsoft game\age of empires  the same dont change it ?/
[08:16] <JohnFlux2> caris_mere: hmm, no just  man badblocks
[08:16] <caris_mere> JohnFlux2: thanks
[08:16] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: now the printer works, but I can't seem to upgrade any of my packages...I get errors relating to this one
[08:16] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Heh.  Wonder what it cooked up for purge then, I don't believe that's a valid option in rpm.
[08:17] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: not sure.  I really wish I hadn't ever ran alien...
[08:17] <the_hammer> id make a folder and put all the game stuff in there and point wine to it
[08:17] <aaroncampbell> but it's the only solution anyone in here offered to my "I can't get it to compile" issue :|
[08:17] <the_hammer> i dont like defults
[08:17] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: So what errors are you getting?
[08:18] <aaroncampbell> with the compile?  The removal?  Or the upgrading of packages?
[08:18] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: The removal issue is simple.
[08:18] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Just remove the file(s) manually.
[08:18] <chalmer> the_hammer? ok, so where do i creat this folder and what do i name it?
[08:18] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: as for errors updating packages, what errors?
[08:19] <the_hammer> right click and choose make new folder say like on Desktop or your home folder what ever ya like
[08:19] <chx> chijin: hi here. So. knetworkmanager does not work :(
[08:19] <chijin> :-)
[08:19] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: it keeps giving me an error that there was a problem committing the changes...maybe a package didn't get downloaded right
[08:20] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: so I tried to clean it out, and start over...and I got the magicolor issue
[08:20] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:21] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: the magicolor package probably removed ok, if not just run it without --purge
[08:21] <chijin> chx: do you have several network managers running?
[08:21] <chalmer> the_hammer>  what do i name it?
[08:21] <chx> chijin: I believe not
[08:21] <chx> chijin: I am on wired for now
[08:21] <gabrield> Hey. In what situations would .Xdefaults not be loaded? Because it doesnt load in my computer, not even if I put xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults in my .xinitrc
[08:22] <chalmer> the_hammer>  program files? microsoft games?
[08:22] <chijin> chx: if it's not too troubling, you could try restarting the network :-P
[08:22] <chx> chijin: how? The wired network works, the wireless is not even started
[08:22] <chijin> chx: see my latest line in ubuntu+1
[08:24] <chalmer> Help !!! can someone tell me tha directory that i need to install AOE w/ wine?/
[08:26] <S-Angeli> Hi, I have a firewire mount /dev/sdb3 on /media/sdb3 type hfsplus (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000) I want to write on it. What should I do? I always get read only permission
[08:26] <aabrahao> in console how choose start gnome ou kde?
[08:26] <adaptr> S-Angeli: how did you mount it ?
[08:26] <S-Angeli> automatically done by kde
[08:26] <ale__> qualcuno di italiano c'?
[08:26] <chalmer> Help !!! can someone tell me tha directory that i need to install AOE w/ wine?/
[08:26] <aeergalus> hola alguien habla espaol que pueda ayudarme por favor
[08:27] <adaptr> S-Angeli: not my question - as what user ?
[08:27] <S-Angeli> sangeli:x:1000:
[08:27] <adaptr> you need the user(s) option in fstab, man mount
[08:27] <adaptr> or it's some hfs thing, never worked with hfs myself
[08:27] <S-Angeli> one sec.
[08:28] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_hfsplus
[08:28] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: You may need to disable journaling.
[08:28] <chalmer> Help !!! can someone tell me tha directory that i need to install AOE w/ wine?/
[08:28] <bort> I've just installed kubuntu, how do I open my multiverse and universe repositories
[08:29] <fdoving> !software | bort
[08:29] <ubotu> bort: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[08:29] <jhutchins> chalmer: I don't even know what AOE is.  Why are you trying to install it in wine?
[08:29] <S-Angeli> I am back
[08:29] <adaptr> age of empires, a windows game
[08:29] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_hfsplus
[08:29] <adaptr> a Microsoft game, even
[08:29] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: You may need to disable journaling.
[08:29] <jhutchins> So boot to windows, run it there.
[08:30] <chijin> chalmer: i would try to install it where the installer suggests to install it. it probably is ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/ if it suggests Program Files
[08:30] <chalmer> jhutchins> age of empires is a microsoft game and i was told to use wine to install it
[08:30] <chijin> jhutchins: why, if it's perfectly ok to run under wine? :-p
[08:30] <S-Angeli> well, can i mount it with write properties at console rather than messing up with fstab?
[08:30] <S-Angeli> I found a command.
[08:30] <adaptr> yes
[08:30] <S-Angeli> let me try it
[08:31] <jhutchins> chijin: Well, pretty obviously that's not within his capability, so just run it under Windows where it belongs.  That way it won't mess up his kubuntu partition.
[08:31] <S-Angeli> I believe journaling is an issue
[08:32] <jhutchins> chalmer: Better yet, install it under Windows and point your wine configuration at your windows partition.
[08:32] <S-Angeli> well, is it possible then to mount from my imac mac os x a remote partition over my lan?
[08:32] <S-Angeli> This will solve my issue.
[08:32] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: Yes, I believe osx supports nfs, samba, and appletalk.
[08:33] <S-Angeli> what do I have to do in order to make a share of my entire home directory on my kubuntu?
[08:33] <chalmer> jhutchins> b/c im trying to learn this stuff so that i can rely on my windows computer very little
[08:33] <jhutchins> chalmer: So install it under Windows and point your wine configuration at your windows partition.
 what to do on my kubunto to make my share (that I need to create) available to my mac on my LAN?
[08:34] <jhutchins> chalmer: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-89.html
[08:34] <bort> !software
[08:34] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[08:34] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: Figure out what's going to be easiest to mount on the mac, then either set up nfs or samba.
[08:35] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: Macs will usually recognize vfat disks, you could use vfat.
[08:35] <S-Angeli> I do not know how to setup a share on my linux pc
[08:35] <jhutchins> !nfs
[08:35] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[08:35] <jhutchins> !samba
[08:35] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:36] <aaroncampbell> I'm trying to build a package for my printer (konica Minolta Magicolor 2430DL) with this printer driver ( http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ) but this is the output: http://paste-bin.com/11378 which is riddled with errors...can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[08:36] <chijin> i don't think the file system matters when using samba, he could as well share an ext3 partition
[08:36] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: You'll want to know more about what you're doing than you can get off of IRC.
[08:36] <terrestre> S-Angeli, actually the more easy way to share its open konqueror and write "smb://192.168.xxx.xxx and that its
[08:36] <jhutchins> chijin: Correct, anything that can be mounted can be shared, including remotely mounted shares.
[08:37] <jhutchins> chijin: I have shared several iso's mounted via loopback.
[08:37] <chijin> jhutchins: me too :-)
[08:37] <S-Angeli> terrestre, this way is for me getting on a remote pc from my linux. what about creating a share from my linux so that I can browse it from my mac?
[08:38] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: Did you not get the URL's above?
[08:38] <frojnd> aaa, kaffeine drives me crazy. just few minutes ago it was able to load subtitles, and now no text while playing movie. any ideas
[08:38] <jhutchins> S-Angeli: I would recommend nfs, it's more efficient, but samba is easy.
[08:38] <S-Angeli> ok
[08:38] <S-Angeli> let me try
[08:38] <terrestre> but samba its faster than nfs
[08:38] <terrestre> I think
[08:39] <bort> whenever I want to download a package from the adept manager it asks me for the kubuntu cd, why is that?
[08:39] <jhutchins> terrestre: Not according to the benchmarks i've seen.
[08:39] <terrestre> but do you use it?
[08:39] <jhutchins> terrestre: smb has a lot of overhead.
[08:39] <terrestre> because i did
[08:39] <terrestre> and was a pain
[08:39] <jhutchins> terrestre: Yes, I have an NT server here, and I have windows PC's connected to a client's samba server.
[08:39] <chalmer> jhutchins> so i need to go to my windows comp. and shre my c:\ drive on my network. then go back to my linux comp and open samba shares to find it there.
[08:40] <terrestre> jhutchins, my question was, do you use nfs?
[08:40] <jhutchins> chalmer: Well, I was assuming that you had a dual-boot computer.  I wouldn't recommend trying to use a remote C:\ for wine.
[08:41] <jhutchins> chalmer: Did you get that URL on installing software under wine?
[08:41] <Ace2016> Hi all
[08:41] <chalmer> jhutchins> y
[08:41] <Ace2016> Anyone using feisty?
[08:41] <jhutchins> chalmer: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=147
[08:41] <Ace2016> Anyone know how to get rid of the animation that occurs when you click on stuff in konqueror?
[08:42] <jhutchins> Ace2016: Most of the folks in #ubuntu+1 are (that's the feisty channel).
[08:42] <Ace2016> jhutchins: most of them use ubuntu :(
[08:42] <jhutchins> Ace2016: Should be under Configure Desktop/Behavior/Launch Feedback.
[08:43] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: Here is my compile problem I was talking about (now that I got the package removed): I'm trying to build a package for my printer (Konica Minolta Magicolor 2430DL) with this printer driver ( http://printer.konicaminolta.com/support/current_printers/mc2430dl_sup.htm#linux ...the tar.gz has a /debian directory and everything) but this is the output: http://paste-bin.com/11378 which is riddled with errors.
[08:45] <Ace2016> jhutchins: not there, i looked
[08:46] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: you need cups-devel sources
[08:47] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Well, not knowing much about building dpkgs myself, I'm not sure how to troubleshoot the process, but you might want to try building the program and see if that works.  Is there a README file?
[08:47] <jhutchins> adaptr: Remarkable deduction, but it sounds very likely.
[08:47] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: I get very similar output with a ./configure as with trying to build the package
[08:47] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: libcupsys2-dev ?
[08:48] <jhutchins> adaptr: Ah, now I see.
[08:49] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: The README and/or INSTALL file should tell you what dependencies you need.
[08:50] <jhutchins> I hate troubleshooting compiler output, there's so much code that throws irrelevant errors.
[08:50] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: README is empty, and INSTALL doesn't list them :|
[08:50] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: then minolta should be flogged
[08:50] <adaptr> readme should be mandatory
[08:51] <jhutchins> adaptr: MEANINGFUL README should be mandatory!
[08:52] <adaptr> jhutchins: well, any kid of readme is better than none - the fscker responsible should at the minimum list his home address and phone number :)
[08:52] <jhutchins> This is why I'm astonished at people who don't like rpm, at least it lists the dependencies you're missing.
[08:52] <adaptr> yes.. right before it barfs over at least one of them
[08:53] <jhutchins> adaptr: Yeah, but... so does the compile, it's just harder to dig the reason out of all the foo.
[08:53] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: new output: http://paste-bin.com/11379  and the difference between old and new: http://paste-bin.com/pastebin.php?diff=11379
[08:53] <adaptr> well, at least you can remedy the compile.. with rpm's, it's eiethr good or bad
[08:53] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: do you know how I told you to get cups dev ? eliminate based on that, chase them all
[08:54] <jhutchins> adaptr: Easy to fix though, download the listed packages, re-run.  Anyway, they have managers like apt for rpm these days, it was never meant to auto-fetch (predates good mirror availability).
[08:55] <arnewolf> hiho
[08:55] <bobstro> is there an active apt repository for the activeheart theme?
[08:55] <bobstro> the neo.pl repository seems to have died.
[08:55] <adaptr> jhutchins: so you've never come up against dependency hell ?
[08:56] <arnewolf> where does thunderbird store the profile?
[08:56] <adaptr> ~/.thunderbird
[08:56] <dell190> How can i change the "Theme" on kubuntu
[08:56] <adaptr> theme
[08:56] <adaptr> !theme
[08:56] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[08:56] <jhutchins> adaptr: Nothing like what I've come up against trying to compile.
[08:56] <bobstro> yes, but those list the DEAD links, which is why i'm asking
[08:57] <adaptr> jhutchins: well, I dumped red hat after 3 years and switched to debian/gentoo when I finally had enough
[08:57] <jhutchins> adaptr: WHich is what puzzles me, because most of the people who talk about are familiar with compiling.
[08:57] <varaonaid> Hi, I have the 915res package installed installed, but I can't get the display module to allow me to change drivers from the i810.
[08:57] <varaonaid> any ideas how to fix?
[08:57] <jhutchins> adaptr: I've run RPM based distros since RedHat 2.1 and never had trouble resolving dependencies intelligently.
[08:58] <adaptr> jhutchins: I';ve run 6.0 through 7.3, and have had problems every step of the way
[08:58] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: because it was looking for cups/*.h and couldn't find it?
[08:58] <bobstro> varaonaid: you're doing the admin mode thing?
[08:59] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: yes
[08:59] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: that's a sure indication it's missig some source files
[08:59] <jhutchins> chalmer: Getting somewhere now?
[08:59] <Brutal-fashion> Hey !!! guys
[08:59] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: and if you're lucky, they're easy to trace (as in this case)
[09:00] <Brutal-fashion> Spanish page?
[09:00] <Brutal-fashion> please
[09:00] <varaonaid> bobstro: yes,it detects the 945 graphics card, I switch to that choice, exit out (all in admin mode) and nothing is saved
[09:00] <Compleja> !es
[09:00] <jhutchins> !es Brutal-fashion
[09:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:00] <Brutal-fashion> Thank's guuys
[09:01] <bobstro> varaonaid:  fwiw it's the same. i've got a dell with a 945 and the actual driver enabled is the 810.
[09:02] <bobstro> varaonaid:  hang on. i'm getting into it now.
[09:02] <varaonaid> Bobstro: Well, that's my screen too, Dell 945.  Does yours show that you have a 945 with the i810 drivers?  I have some bizarre things happen to the screen upon logout but
[09:02] <varaonaid> Bobstro: still here, glad to wait
[09:02] <bobstro> varaonaid:  yeah, same thing here. i'm on a D420. yes, it lets me select 945, but in hardware settings screen, shows i810 driver.
[09:02] <tulio__> hwo do i split a big file into shorter ones?
[09:03] <bobstro> varaonaid:  i had a hell of a time getting the 1280x800 to work.
[09:03] <bobstro> tulio__:  a text file or binary?
[09:03] <bobstro> tulio__:  you want it by lines or actual file size?
[09:03] <bort> to upgrade from dapper to edgy, what command do I use in the terminal? I tried gksu "update-manager -c"  but it says comand not found
[09:03] <varaonaid> bobstro: well, the res is correct but upon logout the screen goes haywire.  I thought this was perhaps the problem.
[09:04] <vadim_> hi2all
[09:04] <bort> can it be that that command is only for ubuntu gnome?
[09:04] <varaonaid> even though it detects the 945 card, it shows an i810 installed. strange
[09:04] <bobstro> varaonaid:  ah. not sure about that. i have had issues with changes to resolution with docking station.
[09:04] <bobstro> varaonaid:  yes, they use the same driver for a bunch of 'em.
[09:04] <bobstro> varaonaid:  same with nvidia.
[09:05] <varaonaid> OK, well, maybe that's not the problem.  Thanks for confirming that for me.
[09:05] <bobstro> bort:  you can install the update-manager package.
[09:05] <jhutchins> bort: I don't know of an upgrade manager for dapper - edgy, but you should read the wiki, I think it's pretty thorough.
[09:06] <bobstro> bort:  i'm not sure if it's part of a kubuntu install.
[09:06] <smile> hi linuxians .. can I program in Pascal language with Kdevelop ?
[09:06] <bobstro> varaonaid:  i suspect not, but you never know. did you install kubuntu or ubuntu initially?
[09:06] <jhutchins> bort: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[09:06] <bobstro> varaonaid:  i couldn't get it going with ubuntu install but worked just fine with kubuntu for some reason.
[09:07] <bort> jhutchins: I read the wiki, and the command to start the upgrade is gksu "update-manager -c"
[09:07] <bort> jhutchins: but I tried, and it says command not found
[09:08] <jhutchins> !kdesu | bort
[09:08] <ubotu> bort: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:09] <bobstro> bort:  i've used upgrade-manager with kde, but it has to be installed first. sounds like you haven't.
[09:09] <chx> chijin: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetworkmanager/+bug/50770 seems to bite me -- though pulling out network cord and ifdown eth0 did not help. Maybe a reboot will - we shall see tomorrow :)
[09:09] <Brutal-fashion> Hey
[09:10] <jhutchins> bobstro: I'm betting it's the gksu command that's not found.
[09:10] <Photon> Hello World
[09:11] <jhutchins> bobstro: I get command not found for gksu on mine.
[09:11] <bobstro> jhutchins:  it launches for me as normal user, so not sure.
[09:11] <bobstro> jhutchins:  hmmm. i just launched it.
[09:11] <jhutchins> bobstro: Possibly you have gnome?
[09:11] <bobstro> jhutchins:  yes. that's why i was suggesting it may need to be installed.
[09:12] <bort> bobstro, jhutchins: I typed kdesu and it says update-manager command not found
[09:12] <MK_Mike> Hello, I'v booted up today and there is no sound anymore, iv tryed restarting the sound system but it still doesnt work... any ideas?
[09:12] <jhutchins> bobstro: Ah, that's it then.  gksu is a gnome utility, not on kubuntu.
[09:12] <bobstro> jhutchins:  yeah, i've got both installed.
[09:12] <jhutchins> bort: Then install the update manager.
[09:12] <jhutchins> bort: sudo aptitude install update-manager
[09:12] <jhutchins> !info update-manager
[09:12] <ubotu> update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.45.2 (edgy), package size 775 kB, installed size 3652 kB
[09:13] <jhutchins> !info update-manager dapper
[09:13] <ubotu> update-manager: GNOME application that manages apt updates. In component main, is optional. Version 0.42.2ubuntu22 (dapper), package size 727 kB, installed size 2872 kB
[09:13] <arnewolf> adaptr: Great, thank you!
[09:13] <adaptr> arnewolf: ??
[09:13] <arnewolf> I found the thunderbird profile
[09:14] <arnewolf> i was away :-)
[09:14] <bobstro> jhutchins, bort: when i launch update-manager, it asks for password. don't need kdesu etc. methinks.
[09:14] <Photon> whats up everyone?
[09:14] <wayker> I am good :)
[09:15] <erin> I recenlty switch from gnome to kde, and how do you make a link without opening a command line
[09:15] <bobstro> erin:  in konqueror?
[09:15] <erin> bobstro yea
is there a way to do it like you can in  nautilas
[09:17] <wayker> hmm I have tried to switch KDE to Xfce, because I wanted cube desktop :]  But I didnt find where is posible o set it :(
[09:17] <Arwen> is there a GNOME equivalent of kdelibs?
[09:17] <bobstro> erin:  if you drag it to e.g. desktop, it'll ask if you want a link.
[09:17] <erin> ok i want a link to my usb disk in my home folder
[09:18] <erin> that worked thanks
[09:19] <Photon> is debian good?
[09:19] <Photon> v4 has been released...
[09:19] <bobstro> Photon:  debian rocks
[09:19] <smile> Photon: ubuntu is based on Debian
[09:20] <Photon> should i try debian?
[09:20] <jhutchins> Arwen: Many.
[09:20] <Arwen> debian is ok...
[09:20] <Arwen> jhutchins, hmm?
[09:20] <jhutchins> Arwen: Many equivalent libraries.
[09:20] <Arwen> ah
[09:20] <smile> Photon: Debian is like ubuntu .. why u want try ?
[09:21] <Photon> just try it too see if its stable,faster,easier?
[09:21] <bobstro> Photon:  i love debian, but ubuntu is built on top of it with a strong support.
[09:21] <Arwen> jhutchins, but then, there's no one library that all GNOME apps depend on (libgtk2.0 doesn't count) in the same way all KDE apps depend on kdelibs?
[09:21] <bruno_> its not easier
[09:21] <bobstro> Photon:  i wouldn't expect any huge differences, but i think you'll find ubuntu somewhat easier to set up. can't say i've tried debian 4 yet though.
[09:22] <Photon> am going to download it
[09:22] <bobstro> Photon:  unbuntu is striving for a more commercialized support structure. debian tends to favor "pure" licensing.
[09:22] <Arwen> oh, but if you do try Debian, make sure to get the experimental or the testing release
[09:22] <Arwen> the stable Debian release sucks
[09:22] <smile> Photon: good luck !!
[09:22] <Arwen> oh yeah, and Debian doesn't have firefox...
[09:22] <Photon> smile: :)
[09:22] <Photon> wtf
[09:22] <bobstro> Photon:  debian is great for a server install if you just want the basics.
[09:23] <Photon> debian with KDE
[09:23] <bobstro> Photon:  you can set up a VERY small install with debian.
[09:23] <smile> Photon: if u want something different .. try Suse or mandriva
[09:23] <Arwen> or even Foedora Core
[09:23] <bobstro> aieee
[09:23] <smile> Photon: easy to use and stable
[09:24] <bobstro> i'm sticking with apt-based distros myself.
[09:26] <Photon> i think am going to try 3 destr. debian, ubuntu, suse and see which one fits me, is KDE available for all?
[09:27] <adam__> should be
[09:27] <Arwen> Photon, yes, but you have to install X and KDE manually for Debian
[09:27] <Photon> k
[09:27] <Photon> ok
[09:27] <adam__> I dled ubuntu, installed kde and made it default, now the boot screen says kubuntu :)
[09:28] <Photon> Kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE
[09:28] <bobstro> adam__:  you can change it with the alternatives
[09:28] <adaptr> !desktop
[09:28] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[09:28] <adaptr> bah
[09:29] <adam__> Yea, It didn't bug me but I found it interesting i was like wtf
[09:29] <Photon> what does Xfce look like?
[09:29] <Photon> any screenies?
[09:29] <adam__> Very simple
[09:29] <adam__> i used to use vector 5.8
[09:29] <bobstro> adam__:  i've had mine show one on startup, another on shutdown.
[09:29] <adam__> hahah
[09:29] <adam__> on vector, xfce is default i think
[09:29] <Photon> !KDE
[09:29] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[09:29] <adam__> it's pretty good
[09:29] <bobstro> adam__:  a few things get changed as you install other stuff.
[09:30] <Photon> !xfce
[09:30] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:30] <Photon> !gnome
[09:30] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[09:31] <Photon> what do u all mostly use? KDE?
[09:31] <Arwen> !kde
[09:31] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[09:31] <bobstro> adam__:  in alternatives configurator, you can select which you want under usplash-artwork.so
[09:31] <Arwen> Photon, GNOME, it looks cleaner
[09:31] <adam__> !fluxbox
[09:31] <bobstro> Photon:  kde lately
[09:31] <adam__> oh come on
[09:31] <adam__> thanks bob
[09:31] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[09:32] <Photon> which one is better KOffice or OpenOffice?
[09:32] <Arwen> definitely OpenOffice.org
[09:32] <xardias> Photon: i would prefer Openoffice
[09:32] <Photon> :D
[09:32] <bobstro> Photon:  i'd go with oo as well.
[09:32] <admin1> OO is the right choice
[09:32] <Photon> then wats the use of Koffice if there is openoffice?
[09:32] <adam__> I have both
[09:33] <adam__> OO is _much_ better
[09:33] <admin1> agree
[09:33] <admin1> does someone have experience with qemu ?
[09:33] <tmbg> OO is much more capable and  nicer, but it is slower and chews up more resources
[09:34] <bobstro> admin1:  only the old dos package with that name, which probably isn't what you want. :)
[09:34] <erz-> How can be quiet with my NTFS LAN HDDs for reading mp3 & movie correctly ?
[09:34] <kalorin> admin1, yes
[09:34] <kalorin> I used it just long enough to decide to use vmware
[09:34] <adam__> vmware is great
[09:34] <kalorin> and it's free :)
[09:34] <admin1> thx. i try to install WinXP, but did not work proper in VirtualBox. now i read about QEMU
[09:35] <Black_Cat> i am having strange troubles with my cdrom, kubuntu shows messages about i/o errors and "tray open" messages. how do i fix it? this cdrom works okay in windoze...
[09:35] <admin1> vmware is free ?
[09:35] <kalorin> eh?
[09:35] <kalorin> xp works great
[09:35] <kalorin> yeah vmware server
[09:35] <kalorin> www.vmware.com
[09:35] <kalorin> just register for a serial #
[09:35] <adam__> Before i installed ubuntu, i tried it out in VMware, worked better than i thought it would
[09:35] <admin1> oh didnt knew *wonder*
[09:35] <kalorin> install's great, only need th server package
[09:35] <Photon> http://www.xfce.org/images/about/screenshots/4.4-3.png vs http://kde.org/screenshots/images/3.5/02-systeminfo.png
[09:35] <kalorin> oh and it works great
[09:35] <admin1> ok thx a lot, i will try
[09:36] <adam__> yea, if you don't want to use too many resources, use xfce
[09:36] <kalorin> going up to do family stuff now that the ATI drivers are fixed on my machine from last night
[09:36] <kalorin> man what a pain
[09:36] <kalorin> beryl photon?
[09:36] <Photon> ok
[09:37] <adam__> Beryl confused the crap out of me, i just gave up on it
[09:37] <Photon> http://www.xfce.org/images/about/screenshots/4.4-5.png but its xfce...
[09:37] <kalorin> I don't see a point in semitransparent windows and fog effects
[09:38] <adam__> I wanted it for the water ripple :(
[09:38] <kalorin> ah
[09:38] <kalorin> I just wish kubuntu had a reasonable good CPU/Memory/Swap taskbar applet
[09:38] <kalorin> I just want 3 bars 0->100%
[09:38] <kalorin> xubuntu had a great one
[09:38] <kalorin> for xfce
[09:38] <kalorin> kde's tries to be too pretty
[09:39] <aaroncampbell> Something I'm trying to compile is complaining that it can't find jbig.h ...I can't figure out what package I need to get that
[09:39] <adam__> Yea I was about to say, xfce does that nicely
[09:39] <kalorin> adam, yeah Iknow
[09:39] <conanm4> yeah but gnome is just but ugly
[09:39] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: use dpkg -S
[09:39] <kalorin> taht'st he only thing that I really mourn going to kde
[09:39] <kalorin> font support for some reason seems to be better with kubuntu
[09:39] <kalorin> and I actually like adept better than synaptic
[09:39] <kalorin> though both are very good
[09:39] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: dpkg: *jbig* not found.
[09:39] <adam__> I use synaptic and automatix
[09:40] <Photon> can i install xfce on kubuntu?
[09:40] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: tough luck :(
[09:40] <adam__> yup, photon
[09:40] <jack_> i have the problem that when i am idle and only system apps messnger app are running, the cpu load of xorg goes up to 99% and the session freezes, this never happens when i actively use the computer
[09:40] <Photon> ok
[09:40] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: use the package site
[09:40] <jack_> any one any idea?
[09:40] <Photon> am going to try it
[09:40] <adaptr> !packages
[09:40] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[09:40] <conanm4> does anyone here use anything besides kubuntu or the buntus?
[09:41] <ScottLij> Where does Adept download the packages to?
[09:41] <LjL> ScottLij: /var/cache/apt/archives
[09:41] <ScottLij> I'm trying to install the jdk1.4 but it wasn't going anywhere after it downloaded, I showed details and theres a license agreement that I can't accept
[09:41] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: ok, so I did a "locate jbig.h" and it's ~/jbigkit/libjbig/jbig.h  I think I had found the package online, and compiled it...but it obviously can't find in there...
[09:42] <kalorin> eh
[09:42] <kalorin> heh
[09:42] <adaptr> well, no, because you don't compile sources on *buntu unless there is absolutely no other way - and even then, you try to build a deb first!
[09:43] <kalorin> I hate stupid alternatives
[09:43] <kalorin> how lame
[09:43] <mikle> is there a way to set which unicode codepage to use for extended ASCII characters (basically, for non-unicode filenames to use certain page of unicode)?
[09:43] <adam__> I'm used to having to compile, I usually use smaller distros that have no package supprt
[09:43] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: well, no one has offered another "choice" and I don't know how to make a deb
[09:43] <ScottLij> what do you do with a .deb file?
[09:44] <Photon> Photon Mapping
[09:44] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: from the top: what are you trying to do, and how many packages did you install from source in your quest to get it done outside the "ubuntu way" ? :)
[09:44] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: where can I put that .h file so it will be found?
[09:44] <Photon> is there any chat room for game developers?
[09:44] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: that depends on where the makefile expects it to be found
[09:45] <ScottLij> how do you install a .deb file?
[09:45] <adaptr> !pdkg
[09:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pdkg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:45] <adaptr> !dpkg
[09:45] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: I don't even know if I "installed" that, or just built it, but that's the only one.  What I'm trying to do is build a .deb for my printer...you were helping me earlier, but asked me to "chase them all" (the dependency errors)
[09:45] <ubotu> dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.
[09:45] <adaptr> bleh
[09:46] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: what all is in the tarball for the printer driver, and what exactly is it a driver for ? have you ecxhausted any and all available normal printer options for linux or CUPS?
[09:46] <unwyred> is it possible to add the 'hide' button to the toolbar through the command line?
[09:47] <admin1> @Scott -> sudo dpkg -i NAME.deb
[09:47] <ScottLij> thanks
[09:47] <unwyred> I just upgraded to fiesty fawn which seems to have changed my resolution
[09:47] <admin1> np
[09:47] <unwyred> and the toolbar configuration doesn't fully display
[09:47] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: I've tried other drivers, but they don't seem to work at all.  Inside the tar.gz id a bunch of stuff, including a debian directory...
[09:48] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: what's in the debian dir ?
[09:48] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: in researching that, I found that I'm supposed to do something like: sudo dpkg-buildpackage -b   to build a .deb
[09:48] <jack_> i have the problem that when i am idle and only system apps messnger app are running, the cpu load of xorg goes up to 99% and the session freezes, this never happens when i actively use the computer
[09:48] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: correct :)
[09:48] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: changelog  compat  control  copyright  Makefile  Makefile.am  Makefile.in  postinst  postrm  README.Debian  rules
[09:48] <jack_> using kde3.5.6 on a intel centrino core duo
[09:48] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: and readme is empty ?
[09:49] <ScottLij> I've got a license agreement that I can't accept in the terminal, what can I do?
[09:49] <adaptr> ScottLij: feed the "Y" or "yes" sequence to it in a pipe, perhaps
[09:49] <bobstro> ScottLij:  did you let it get down to the bottom?
[09:49] <ScottLij> its at the bottom, yes
[09:50] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: nope, the one in the debian directory has 4 lines
[09:50] <aaroncampbell> magicolor2430dl for Debian
[09:50] <aaroncampbell> --------------------------
[09:50] <aaroncampbell> this package works with cups 1.1.14 or above.
[09:50] <aaroncampbell>  -- sean zhan <sean.zhan@bil.konicaminolta.us>, Wed,  9 Feb 2005 13:56:50 -0500
[09:50] <admin1> @Scott > try "y" / "n" or make use of TAB
[09:50] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: okay, that seems to indicate they have tested it
[09:50] <ScottLij> it was tab, thanks again
[09:50] <unwyred> so can I not do this through the command line?
[09:50] <admin1> :)
[09:51] <unwyred> like I said, my resolution is too low to fully display the configuration window, and I'm rather not blindly tab through everything
[09:51] <unwyred> *I'd
[09:51] <admin1> whats your graphic cars
[09:51] <admin1> card
[09:51] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: The output I get when I try to build: http://paste-bin.com/11380  (if it helps)
[09:51] <bobstro> unwyred:  you've tried ctrl-alt-+
[09:52] <unwyred> I haven't
[09:52] <jhutchins> !fixres
[09:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:52] <unwyred> what does this do?
[09:52] <unwyred> oh
[09:52] <admin1> resize resolution
[09:52] <bobstro> unwyred:  just changes resolution if you've got multiple available
[09:52] <jhutchins> unwyred: Really?  That worked?
[09:52] <pollyo> Anyone using irkick?
[09:52] <unwyred> no, it didn't
[09:53] <jhutchins> unwyred: Ah, too bad.  Check the fixres page if you can.
[09:53] <bobstro> unwyred:  and moving mouse doesn't scroll virtual screen?
[09:53] <unwyred> also on an unrelated note, I had xchat installed before upgrading to fiesty but can't find it in my aplications list
[09:53] <unwyred> no, it doesn't
[09:53] <jhutchins> unwyred: Feisty is actually #ubuntu+1 still.
[09:54] <unwyred> the directory for xchat is there, but it's not listed anywhere on kmenu
[09:54] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: you really need the jbig source :)
[09:54] <jhutchins> unwyred: Can you start it in Alt-F2 or a console?
[09:54] <unwyred> eh, I have more of a general question
[09:54] <unwyred> jhutchins: what's the run file for xchat?
[09:54] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: great...well, I have it...and that's what I was saying I tried to compile...
[09:54] <jhutchins> unwyred: xchat iirc
[09:54] <adaptr> you have it - where ?
[09:54] <unwyred> I haven't been using linux for that long
[09:55] <unwyred> oh
[09:55] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: in my home directory under the jbigkit dir
[09:55] <jhutchins> unwyred: (iirc = If I Recall Correctly)
[09:55] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: it needs to be in the system include tree
[09:55] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: how did you install it ?
[09:55] <unwyred> I know >_>
[09:55] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: I have the *source*
[09:55] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: irrelevant
[09:55] <shadid> i hate ubuntu
[09:56] <adaptr> lucky fro you this is Kubuntu, eh ?
[09:56] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: I just downloaded and extracted so far
[09:56] <unwyred> I hate people who join tech support channels just to say they dislike an os.
[09:56] <admin1> shadid> what are you doing here then
[09:56] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Next step is read README, then INSTALL if provided.
[09:56] <shadid> but i hate ubuntu
[09:56] <shadid> to say thet
[09:56] <shadid> that
[09:56] <_dennis_> sry for the newbie question, i'm using kubuntu, but i want to try another linux, so i need to burn the live cd, whats the 'burn' software for kde, (like nero is for windows)
[09:57] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins and adaptr: I got it from here : http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/jbigkit/  just fyi
[09:57] <shadid> or i expected to say , how can i help u
[09:57] <_dennis_> *distro
[09:57] <bobstro> _dennis_:  k3b is one
[09:57] <_dennis_> tnx bobstro
[09:57] <unwyred> hm
[09:57] <admin1> @dennis :  it is K3B
[09:57] <unwyred> that's odd
[09:57] <aaroncampbell> jhutchins: again, no README, but there's an INSTALL
[09:57] <root_> anyone can help with login problems?
[09:57] <unwyred> I just searched for xchat...and it's not there
[09:57] <bobstro> root_:  go ahead and ask
[09:57] <jhutchins> aaroncampbell: Oh goody, a personal directory.
[09:58] <bobstro> unwyred:  not sure, but is xchat in the usual reposotories?
[09:58] <unwyred> the .xchat2 directory is though
[09:58] <unwyred> hm
[09:58] <unwyred> I'd rather not reinstall it
[09:58] <bobstro> unwyred:  er, repositories. does it show with apt-cache search xchat?
[09:58] <jhutchins> unwyred: That's what the --purge option is about - unless you use it, it leaves the config behind.
[09:58] <jhutchins> unwyred: Why?
[09:58] <adaptr> aaroncampbell: you are talking about the jbigkit package ?
[09:58] <jhutchins> !info xchat feisty
[09:58] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.0-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 295 kB, installed size 796 kB
[09:59] <unwyred> I have a decent color scheme set up...though I suppose I could just compress it and replace it later
[09:59] <unwyred> I'll do that
[09:59] <Black_Cat> I saw xchat in repos today, but for GNOME not KDE...
[09:59] <bobstro> unwyred:  is universe enabled?
[09:59] <jhutchins> unwyred: The .xchat2 file is still there though, so your configuration should still be in it.
[09:59] <unwyred> yeah, I have all my repositories enabled
[09:59] <aaroncampbell> adaptr: yes
[09:59] <unwyred> hm
[09:59] <unwyred> I'll run aptitude and see what happens
[09:59] <jhutchins> Most linux is pretty smart about keeping your configuration and not killing it if you reinstall.
[10:00] <root_> ok... (deep breath) i have trouble logging in... i have entered recovery mode and deleted all the users and created a new one and i can't still login. the login screen appears normally but after i enter the username +password i get a black screen for a sec or so and then i am back on the logon screen once again..
[10:00] <jhutchins> root_: You're not running irc as root, are you?
[10:00] <bobstro> root_:  are you using nis or anything like that?
[10:00] <unwyred> on a related note, I can not abide by konversation :/
[10:00] <bobstro> given his situation...
[10:00] <root_> i am running as root but i dont care
[10:00] <bobstro> unwyred:  i'm trying others but always come back to xchat it seems.
[10:01] <jhutchins> unwyred: I like it better myself, but there's kopete and probably half a dozen other irc clients.
[10:01] <unwyred> heh
[10:01] <root_> everything is pretty f**** up to worry about hacking... :)
[10:01] <bobstro> root_:  you create users with adduser
[10:01] <bobstro> root_:  er, did you?
[10:01] <root_> yup
[10:01] <jhutchins> root_: Point take.  try startx, see what kind of errors you get.
[10:01] <unwyred> I've heard good things about irssi...but it's console based, which I dislike
[10:01] <adaptr> bitchx da bomb
[10:02] <bobstro> jhutchins:  if he's unable to login as user at CLI, it's probably PAM no?
[10:02] <dragonkh> loha
[10:02] <root_> ok at first i dont get what's the difference between recovery and normal mode...
[10:03] <root_> x server behaves normally at recovery mode
[10:03] <bobstro> root_:  is this at X you're trying to log in or CLI?
[10:03] <root_> x
[10:03] <bobstro> root_:  if you change to a console can you login as a user?
[10:03] <wolke> hi! would someone help me set up samba please?
[10:03] <Brutal-fashion>   te keio
[10:03] <root_> yup
[10:04] <bobstro> root_:  ah, ok. that's a good sign. thought you were stuck at CLI too.
[10:04] <root_> xserver does not start from there..
[10:04] <intelikey> i haven't  really played around in ram very much, but; why can't root write in /proc/* ?
[10:04] <wolke> when i install it, i am receiving error messages, such as "/var/lib/dpkg/info/samba.postinst: 61: mv: File too large"
[10:04] <unwyred> xchat installed
[10:04] <root_> in recovery mode works normally ( the xserver)
[10:04] <unwyred> let's see if it kept my configurations
[10:05] <bobstro> root_:  so you're in X as root OK then? if you login as regular user at CLI, can you launch via startx?
[10:05] <unwyred> oh hey, it did :D
[10:05] <unwyred> ...eh?
[10:06] <unwyred> I'm not able to see the user list
[10:06] <unwyred> and there's a channel tab off to the left
[10:06] <bobstro> unwyred:  you gotta drag it open
[10:06] <intelikey> bobstro could he not just as easily use a konsole and su or sudo  ?
[10:06] <bobstro> intelikey:  he can't log into x as a user.
[10:06] <Evian_water> which source do i need to get mplayer via apt-get install mplayer...i just installed kubuntu 6.10 and cant install mplayer with that command
[10:06] <root_> wait bobstro i dont understand...
[10:06] <unwyred> what do you mean drag it open?
[10:06] <jhutchins> !info mplayer
[10:06] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre8-0ubuntu8 (edgy), package size 3461 kB, installed size 8624 kB
[10:06] <bobstro> root_:  does X launch when you start your system normally?
[10:07] <jhutchins> Evian_water: Enable multiverse.
[10:07] <bobstro> intelikey:  so i'm thinking kdm is broken since he can login as same user via CLI login.
[10:07] <intelikey> bobstro then startx will fail too...   "own your home"
[10:07] <jhutchins> root_: Have you checked the fixres page?
[10:07] <jhutchins> !fixres | root_
[10:07] <ubotu> root_: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:07] <bobstro> intelikey:  ?
[10:07] <root_> if the login screen appears normally can i assume xserver or at least a part of it has started normally?
[10:08] <Evian_water> jhutchins: you meaneb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse ?
[10:08] <bobstro> intelikey:  that's part of what i'm trying to determine.
[10:08] <jhutchins> root_: Sortof.  The login screen is kdm, which is not the same as KDE.
[10:08] <Alonea> ok, I had to reinstall my windows system because it borked, how do I get my linux bootloader back?
[10:08] <root_> but kdm uses xserver right?
[10:08] <jhutchins> root_: Look, you can't launch X.
[10:09] <unwyred> so I'm able to drag the user list over...but I can't move the channel/server tabs down
[10:09] <david_88> I Need help with my USB WIFI device it wont auto connect at kubuntu startup.
[10:09] <intelikey> bobstro  permissions problem in his home    ran something like konqureor with sudo   and   BAM !  perms are hosed.         chown username:usergroup /home/userhome -R
[10:09] <jhutchins> root_: kdm uses a seperate config file.
[10:09] <unwyred> where they aren't in the way
[10:09] <root_> hmmmm
[10:09] <bobstro> intelikey:  possibly. that's why i was suggesting bypassing kdm to find out.
[10:09] <bobstro> intelikey:  but he says he just created a new user (via adduser) and same thing so...
[10:09] <Evian_water> jhutchins: it said it could find package "mplayer"
[10:09] <jhutchins> root_: Try just X - uppercase.  That's X without any kDE or whatever.  You'll need Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to get out.
[10:10] <jhutchins> Evian_water: info said it's in multiverse.
[10:10] <intelikey> bobstro interesting....
[10:10] <bobstro> intelikey:  looks like jhutchins is working it with him.
[10:10] <unwyred> fixed.
[10:10] <bobstro> unwyred:  i just went through same thing. default interface is weird.
[10:11] <intelikey> jhutchins  did you have him kill kdm first ?
[10:11] <jhutchins> intelikey: No, no real need to, after all you can have multiple X sessions.
[10:11] <root_> rebooting to test brb
[10:11] <intelikey> you folks know that starting a new xsession is not as simple as just      startx  or  X   don't you ?
[10:11] <jhutchins> Sounds like fixres might have helped him.
[10:12] <jhutchins> intelikey: I know that it can be.
[10:12] <bobstro> intelikey:  but it should work.
[10:12] <intelikey> test it and see
[10:12] <intelikey> maybe i'm wrong
[10:14] <erz-> how can i mount properly ntfs lan HDD ? : |
[10:15] <bobstro> erz-:  it's on a server?
[10:15] <Arwen> erz-, by exporting the HDD over SMB/NTP and then mounting it?
[10:15] <Arwen> erz-, or by using iSCSI?
[10:15] <WillLuongo> erz-: linux doesn't fully support NTFS
[10:15] <erz-> there are on a windows xp workstation
[10:15] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  well, if it's mounted via smb it works ok.
[10:15] <WillLuongo> erz-: sorry, missed the LAN part... like arwen said SMB works
[10:15] <erz-> i mounted with smbfs
[10:15] <david_88> how do i make my usb WIFI auto connect at startup???
[10:16] <Arwen> WillLuongo, well yes, but read and write works, it's NTFS ACLs, compression, and encryption that don't
[10:16] <root_> ok the X worked fine
[10:16] <bobstro> root_:  so you're in as a user?
[10:16] <erz-> i can read my hdd, well i can play music from it, but ... i have errors in playing amarok ( cannont use forward by example )
[10:16] <root_> i got a bunch of warnings and errors but it launced as usual
[10:16] <root_> now you mean?
[10:17] <bobstro> root_:  yes
[10:17] <root_> no i am using the recovery option from the boot menu when you press the Esc key...
[10:18] <intelikey> aka runlevel one
[10:18] <root_> yes
[10:18] <bobstro> root_:  have you tried normal boot?
[10:18] <bobstro> root_:  to see if it works now?
[10:18] <root_> yes i tryed
[10:18] <bobstro> root_:  and?
[10:19] <jhutchins> root_: So X works, but not startx?
[10:19] <root_> yes
[10:19] <root_> i get some errors
[10:20] <david_88> how do i make my usb WIFI auto connect at startup?
[10:20] <jhutchins> root_: Have you been throug the stuff on http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto ?
[10:20] <root_> but i also get errors on X that starts noramlly
[10:20] <root_> *normally
[10:20] <jhutchins> root_: A lot of those errors are for wacom tablets.  Sloppy fix to a non-problem, but irrelevant.
[10:21] <root_> oh no its not a harware issue for sure the pc was working fine till yesterday that i decided to do a restart
[10:22] <jhutchins> root_: Not what I'm talking about.
[10:22] <root_> oh sorry
[10:22] <jhutchins> root_: ubuntu always throws a bunch of errors when you start X, unless you have a wacom drawing tablet or touchscreen.
[10:22] <jhutchins> root_: So the fixres page.
[10:23] <jhutchins> A coder friend says "they're not errors" - I say they shouldn't say "Error" then.
[10:23] <jhutchins> Anyway.
[10:24] <intelikey> i'd have to disagree with your friend.    they are "intentional errors"
[10:24] <HOT> hey folkd, i bet this gets asked a million times but here goes
[10:24] <jhutchins> intelikey: There are distros that do not have that particular problem.
[10:25] <intelikey> indeed
[10:25] <HOT> im running kubuntu feisty and beryl seems fine when for "effects" but when used as the default windows manager i cannot see any text i write altough it is being entered (i know this by swapping back to kde) any ideas?
[10:26] <intelikey> HOT 2.    1. is feisty released yet ?    2. we don't support beryl.
[10:26] <jhutchins> HOT: You can try #ubuntu-effects.
[10:27] <intelikey> !feisty | HOT
[10:27] <ubotu> HOT: The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn") should be released in April 2007. Beta is out! http://www.ubuntu.com/news/Ubuntu704Beta Schedule: !schedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[10:27] <jhutchins> HOT: Beryl doesn't work for a lot of people.
[10:27] <intelikey> !beryl | HOT
[10:27] <ubotu> HOT: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:27] <jhutchins> HOT: There are combinations of hardware/software that do work, but more that don't.
[10:27] <HOT> shame, just nuked a fully working suse 10.2 kde with beryl....grrrrrr
[10:27] <root_> is it possible this beryl is resposible for my problem also?
[10:27] <DivA> !es
[10:27] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:28] <HOT> presumed it would be as straight forward
[10:28] <intelikey> HOT and yes we do hear a lot about it in here....
[10:28] <WillLuongo> I am having problems with my Adept, I tried installing lilypond, but now it gives me retrieval errors on lilypond-data, even when I tell it to remove. Any ideas?
[10:28] <root_> i got it installed recently..
[10:28] <jhutchins> HOT: SuSE cheats.  If you really want beryl, you might still get it working.
[10:28] <Photon> how can i install xfce on kubuntu?
[10:28] <Photon> any command line?
[10:28] <jhutchins> Photon: sudo aptitude install xfce-desktop
[10:28] <Photon> ok thx
[10:28] <HOT> im very close, everything is working except text is not visible, is odd, wish i made a DD of that suse image
[10:29] <Brutal-fashion> O.O
[10:29] <jhutchins> Photon: Sorry, xubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <intelikey> Photon sudo apt-get install xfce4
[10:29] <jhutchins> (Ought be aliased.)
[10:29] <Photon> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "xfce-desktop"
[10:29] <Photon> right....
[10:29] <jhutchins> Photon: Sorry, xubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <Photon> np
[10:30] <intelikey> lot of diff between xfce4 package and xubuntu-desktop package
[10:30] <intelikey> like  kde and kubuntu-desktop
[10:30] <evfreshman2025> can someone help me install Limewire?
[10:30] <intelikey> gnome and ubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <intelikey> !frostwire | evfreshman2025
[10:31] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:31] <Photon> evfreshman2025: lol
Whats so funny?
[10:32] <Photon> evfreshman2025:  nothin nothin
[10:33] <evfreshman2025> umm okay
[10:33] <Photon> ok now i installed xfce now what
[10:33] <intelikey> yep now what ?
[10:33] <Photon> how can i load it
[10:33] <bobstro> Photon:  login using it
[10:33] <bobstro> Photon:  use the session option
[10:34] <Photon> so i should log off
[10:34] <Photon> then log in o
[10:34] <Photon> ok
[10:34] <intelikey> choose your session at login  or switch your de now... you choose.
[10:35] <WillLuongo> I can't apt-get anything because something is wrong with lilypond-data
[10:35] <WillLuongo> Anyone have any ideas?
[10:35] <intelikey> remove lilypond-data ?
[10:35] <evfreshman2025> okay umm well frostwire sucks
[10:35] <evfreshman2025> i cant install anything
[10:35] <evfreshman2025> i dont know how
[10:36] <evfreshman2025> can someone help me out, by telling me step by step
[10:37] <matthew> hellp
[10:37] <matthew> hello too
[10:37] <intelikey> and hellpo to you too
[10:37] <bobstro> stupid console font problem: on my desktop, i can flip back and forth between X and console, and fonts are fine (via console-setup), but on my laptop, they revert to the default fonts. if i do /etc/init.d/console-setup, the font i want comes back.
[10:37] <matthew> I was wondering to whom I should inquire about an adept problem?
[10:37] <Alonea> WillLuongo: did you install something and it ended up being bad? Just remove the lily thing and it should be fine.
[10:38] <Ace2016> matthew: first what is the problem?
[10:38] <jhutchins> !install | evfreshman2025
[10:38] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:38] <Alonea> matthew: just ask your question
[10:38] <evfreshman2025> i dont need help installing Kubuntu
[10:38] <evfreshman2025> i need help installing frostwire
[10:38] <evfreshman2025> 
[10:39] <matthew> It says "You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one."
[10:39] <intelikey> bobstro that sounds like the lappy is using kernel-frame-buffering  as it's x driver      no?
[10:39] <Alonea> matthew: do ctrl+esc and kill any adept processes
[10:39] <bobstro> intelikey:  ah, that could be it. the desktop is nvidia. thanks, that's the hint i need.
[10:40] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  there seems to be a lot on the forums about it.
[10:40] <WillLuongo> Alonea: Yeah, I tried to install lilypond and it ended up being bad. It wouldn't let me remove the package either. I am currently examining editing out line 23 of /var/lib/dpkg/info/lilypond-data.postrm
[10:40] <matthew> Alonea, I only had adept notifier
[10:40] <matthew> and i just killed it.
[10:40] <matthew> no change
[10:40] <intelikey> bobstro  yeah i have bumped that issue a time or two.   anyone that uses the console should avoid fbcon as an x driver at all costs.
[10:40] <Alonea> matthew: is there aptitute or another package manager?
[10:41] <Alonea> *aptitude
[10:41] <matthew> None that I would be aware of.
[10:41] <Alonea> matthew: terminal open?
[10:41] <Alonea> matthew: you could always restart your computer.
[10:41] <bobstro> intelikey:  ah, ok. i do use it frequently so will try reconfiguring again. had some fun with resolution and probably selected it.
[10:41] <matthew> I already rebooted, no change
[10:42] <matthew> I am wondering if there's a way to see which process is locking the /var/lock/dpkg?
[10:43] <adaptr> !lsof
[10:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:43] <intelikey> ok hate to help and run, but you know how it is....   later all and good luck to you penguin.
[10:43] <adaptr> matthew: lsof | grep /var/lock/dpkg
[10:43] <matthew> it's empty
[10:43] <matthew> odd
[10:43] <adaptr> matthew: it will be a package tool of some sort. kill that first, or remove the lock file if it is stale
[10:43] <adaptr> it's ALWAYS empty
[10:43] <WillLuongo> Is there anyway I can delete files as root from the GUI?
[10:44] <adaptr> WillLuongo: specify "as root"
[10:44] <Photon> when i start with xfce4 it doesnt load anything just a background only
[10:44] <bobstro> matthew:  do you have one of the updaters running?
[10:44] <|Iwonder|> short of knowing i'm using feist source,how will i know i'm on feisty?
[10:44] <evfreshman2025> is there any way to install anything like you can on windwos
[10:44] <evfreshman2025> *windows
[10:45] <evfreshman2025> Kubuntu was such a mistake
[10:45] <bobstro> Photon:  no launcher at bottom?
[10:45] <Photon> no
[10:45] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  yes lots of ways. did you try what i suggested?
[10:45] <jhutchins> evfreshman2025: ?  Didn't you even look at that web page?
[10:45] <crsn> hi, there is a problem with a laptop with kubuntu, it nevers shutdown only halts... what can i do
[10:45] <evfreshman2025> they are too confusing
[10:45] <Photon> i just uninstalled and installed it again
[10:45] <Photon> ill try again
[10:45] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  linux may not be for you.
[10:45] <bobstro> evfreshman2025: that's ok. don't worry about it.
[10:46] <evfreshman2025> So how can i install Frostwire or limewire
[10:46] <matthew> bobstro, Sorry for the delay, no, none that I can tell
[10:46] <Trollinator> schon wieder englisch in einem arisch... h, deutschen channel
[10:46] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  if however you wish to give it a try, there is help to be had.
[10:46] <matthew> I am checking now all the open files seeing if something would lock \
[10:46] <WillLuongo> What is console command to delete a file?
[10:46] <adaptr> rm
[10:46] <evfreshman2025> I'll give it a try
[10:46] <WillLuongo> OH YEAH LOL
[10:46] <WillLuongo> Thanks adaptr
[10:46] <jhutchins> bobstro: XFCE you click on the desktop for the menu.
[10:46] <bobstro> matthew:  that's usually what gets me.
[10:46] <evfreshman2025> i just need instructions that are easy to understand
[10:47] <bobstro> jhutchins:  yeah, isn't there usually the "tray" or whatever they call it?
[10:47] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  it's a whole OS, so it won't be trivial. just give it a few minutes and go slow.
[10:47] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  but there are rewards that make it worth it.
[10:47] <adaptr> s/minutes/months/
[10:47] <bobstro> adaptr:  possibly, but not any one thing. :)
[10:48] <jhutchins> bobstro: Well, depends if they did the whole desktop or just xfce.
[10:48] <evfreshman2025> Bobstro: Okay i need the instructions
[10:48] <adaptr> for Linux, definitely - possibly years
[10:48] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  did you try the URL i sent you?
[10:48] <Photon> i still have the problem
[10:48] <evfreshman2025> i didnt recieve a URL
[10:48] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_install_P2P_Gnutella_Client_.28LimeWire.29
[10:48] <jhutchins> Photon: What did you install?
[10:48] <matthew> AH!
[10:48] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  i don't use it myself so can't say if that's best way.
[10:48] <matthew> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:49] <Photon> xfce4
[10:49] <bobstro> matthew:  ah, good.
[10:49] <evfreshman2025> Okay
[10:49] <bobstro> Photon:  well... it *is* a light environment!
[10:49] <jhutchins> Photon: Ok, you may still want to do xubuntu-desktop for a bunch of pre-configured goodies, but try left- or right-clicking on the desktop.
[10:49] <Photon> ...it doesnt work..
[10:49] <matthew> I love the console so much... I can definately get used to knowing what my system is thinking
[10:49] <Photon> nothing works only the background
[10:50] <Photon> which is the same as the login
[10:50] <jhutchins> Photon: In that case, go ahead with xubuntu-desktop.  You're probably missing some parts.
[10:50] <bobstro> matthew:  yes, quite a refreshing change.
[10:50] <raffytaffy> afternoon folks
[10:50] <Photon> i am using kubuntu
[10:50] <matthew> next question: my graphics card doesn't seem to have opengl enabled.
[10:50] <jhutchins> Photon: Right.
[10:50] <Photon> what is missing? how can i install? any command line
[10:51] <matthew> is there a way to re-install the drivers from nvidia safely?
[10:51] <matthew> I tried and got a conflict with the adepted ones
[10:51] <Photon> so....
[10:52] <jhutchins> Photon: Well, you probably need to read the install pages, but sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[10:52] <jhutchins> !install | Photon
[10:52] <ubotu> Photon: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:52] <jhutchins> Photon: Sorry, I get my factoids mixed up.
[10:52] <Photon> k now installing
[10:52] <Photon> just used the command line
[10:52] <Photon> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[10:53] <jhutchins> !software | evfreshman2025
[10:53] <ubotu> evfreshman2025: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[10:53] <jhutchins> Photon: See above.
[10:53] <Photon> ok...
[10:54] <jhutchins> Photon: Are you saying you already installed the macro package?
[10:54] <Photon> yup i installed it then logged off then in with xfce
[10:54] <bobstro> is easyubuntu considered "safe" these days?
[10:54] <Photon> and nothing shows up except background
[10:54] <jhutchins> Photon: Ah.
[10:55] <Photon> and now i ran the command line sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[10:55] <Photon> and now its downloading and installing
[10:55] <jhutchins> Oh, ok.  Good.
[10:55] <Photon> :)
[10:55] <WillLuongo> Is there anyway to apt-get updated versions of libraries? When I try to install my code::blocks IDE I get a bunch of errors, here is an example:
[10:55] <WillLuongo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of codeblocks:
[10:55] <WillLuongo>  codeblocks depends on libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2-2); however:
[10:55] <WillLuongo>   Version of libcairo2 on system is 1.0.2-0ubuntu1.1.
[10:55] <jhutchins> Photon: #xubuntu will have specific help.
[10:56] <jhutchins> !info libcairo2
[10:56] <ubotu> libcairo2: The Cairo 2D vector graphics library. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 375 kB, installed size 656 kB
[10:57] <Photon> should i install Ubuntu then on it install KDE & Xfce
[10:57] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Sounds like the system's a bit out of date, what release are you running?
[10:57] <jhutchins> Photon: No real need to.
[10:57] <WillLuongo> Jhutchins: how can I tell?
[10:57] <bobstro> Photon:  you certainly can do that if you've got the space.
[10:57] <jhutchins> cat /etc/LSB-release (I think)
[10:57] <bobstro> Photon:  but it will slow down updates and such if you don't use all of those.
[10:57] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: in a console
[10:58] <Photon> k
[10:58] <WillLuongo> Jhutchins: It didn'd do anything
[10:58] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: cat /etc/lsb-release
[10:58] <Danker> If i move file to /dev/null will it be deleted?
[10:58] <WillLuongo> Oh wow
[10:58] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Sorry, lowercase.
[10:58] <WillLuongo> I am a whole version behind
[10:58] <WillLuongo> lol
[10:58] <evfreshman2025> F*ck It
[10:58] <evfreshman2025> i cant do it
[10:58] <WillLuongo> Jhutchins: I am running 5.10
[10:59] <jhutchins> !upgrade | WillLuongo
[10:59] <ubotu> WillLuongo: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:59] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: That has 5.10 upgrade info as well.
[10:59] <WillLuongo> Thank you so much jhutchins!
[10:59] <jhutchins> Nice to get one right once in a while...
[11:00] <jhutchins> evfreshman2025: Well, there's a reason Windows is the most popular operating system.
[11:00] <WillLuongo> I know the feeling.
[11:00] <bobstro> hmm. are w32codecs still available?
[11:00] <WillLuongo> I just started using KUbuntu from Gentoo
[11:00] <evfreshman2025> because its eay, and not retarted like Kubutnu
[11:00] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  may not be for you.
[11:00] <jhutchins> !info w32codecs | bobstro
[11:00] <evfreshman2025> if i have a Windows disk, can i install windows ?
[11:00] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  some folks need training wheels. :)
[11:00] <ubotu> bobstro: w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[11:01] <WillLuongo> evfreshman2025: If easy is what you want, Linux might not be for you yet.
[11:01] <bobstro> jhutchins:  hmm. don't see it in apt.
[11:01] <jhutchins> evfreshman2025: If you have to ask that, I would say go find someone who does thsi for a living and pay them to do it.
[11:01] <matthew> In conclusion apt-get > adept
[11:01] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  a big part of what you pay for with windows is that hand-holding.
[11:01] <kb3ocf> whoops, didn't mean to connect... *grumbles* How to fix Konversation so the server list doesn't pop up wen you start the app..
[11:01] <bobstro> kb3ocf:  too late. you're stuck.
[11:02] <evfreshman2025> well i have a windows disk, will windows install if i put it in my drive
[11:02] <evfreshman2025> or will it just F*ck my whole pc up
[11:02] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  it will install windows, so yes.
[11:02] <evfreshman2025> okay thanks
[11:02] <WillLuongo> evfreshman2025: Both. it is the same thing. LOL
[11:02] <kb3ocf> heh. bobstro.. do you know how to make the Server List disappear? It doesn't like my hitting of the X :<
[11:02] <bobstro> hehe
[11:02] <bobstro> kb3ocf:  sorry, no.
[11:02] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  you should be able to install by booting from that disc.
[11:02] <pauljw> :) yes, it will f.... your whole system up... by installing windows  LOL
[11:03] <jhutchins> kb3ocf: Um, how about the "Close" button?
[11:03] <kb3ocf> there is no close button, jhutchins..
[11:03] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  be sure to update regularly and buy some good security software!
[11:03] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  don't forget to register for windows genuine advantage.
[11:04] <jhutchins> kb3ocf: Oh.  I have one. Connect, Close, down at the bottom.
[11:04] <kb3ocf> even when I click the program icon and hit 'close' nothing happens
[11:04] <bobstro> evfreshman2025:  and vista is cheap now. only a couple hundred bucks.
[11:04] <jhutchins> kb3ocf: Sounds like something is stuck.
[11:04] <erz-> Is it possible to mount 2 shared folders into a single folder ?
[11:04] <kb3ocf> I can move it around and stuff, even click the buttons in it..
[11:05] <jhutchins> evfreshman2025: You should probably find someone who knows how to work on computers and do nice things for them.
[11:05] <kb3ocf> which is how I accidently connected here xD
[11:05] <Photon> how can i make sudo modprobe ndiswrapper auto start in kubuntu?
[11:05] <bobstro> kb3ocf:  i have a close button. you just don't want it to pop up?
[11:06] <kb3ocf> correct bobstro... I also don't have a close button though (unless you mean the X in the upper right-hand corner of the Server List box)
[11:06] <jhutchins> kb3ocf: Ctrl-Alt-Esc will turn your cursor into a kill switch.  Just point the skull and crossbones and click.
[11:06] <bobstro> there's an option in configure to avoid having it pop up.
[11:06] <Photon> how can i make "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" auto start in kubuntu?
[11:06] <|Iwonder|> add it to /etc/modules
[11:07] <kb3ocf> uh control-alt-esc didn't do anything
[11:07] <Photon> how ?
[11:07] <jhutchins> Photon: ndiswrapper -m ususally does that for you.
[11:07] <|Iwonder|> with your favorite editor
[11:07] <Photon> jhutchins: THANKS
[11:07] <geggam> i must say ubuntu is very smooth
[11:07] <kb3ocf> it is JUST the server list in Konversation
[11:08] <bobstro> kb3ocf:  is konversation in task bar?
[11:08] <Photon> ok i gtg bye all
[11:09] <WillLuongo> How can I edit a file with root priveleges?
[11:09] <kb3ocf> yes
[11:09] <bobstro> kb3ocf:  maybe right-click there and have it go fullscreen?
[11:10] <|Iwonder|> sudo nano -w <file>
[11:10] <|Iwonder|> or whatever editor u want
[11:10] <geggam> editing sources and changing dapper to feisty is interesting... some fonts are toasted others arent...grub didnt see the new kernel and that update thingy is going nuts now
[11:10] <geggam> other than that quite smooth >:] 
[11:11] <WillLuongo> Wonder: Thank you
[11:11] <__Serge__> Hi
[11:11] <__Serge__> I have a question
[11:11] <__Serge__> How can i have 2 OS in 1 pc?
[11:12] <geggam> vmware
[11:12] <kb3ocf> bobstro didn't work
[11:12] <__Serge__> i'd like to have Ubuntu and WinXP...
[11:12] <bobstro> __Serge__:  you can dual boot, or use virtualization
[11:12] <__Serge__> ???
[11:12] <bobstro> __Serge__:  i'm doing that oon this laptop
[11:12] <kb3ocf> oo
[11:12] <bobstro> __Serge__:  dual booting that is.
[11:12] <kb3ocf> I\ found the option so it won't show the server list at application startup
[11:12] <kb3ocf> that should fix it
[11:12] <kb3ocf> thanks~
[11:13] <__Serge__> I already have intalled Win XP... then how can i install ubuntu??
[11:13] <bobstro> __Serge__:  do you have free disk space ?
[11:13] <crazy_penguin> 'night to all!
[11:13] <geggam> boot the ubuntu cd and click the install thingy on the desktop
[11:13] <__Serge__> yeah, 10 GB
[11:13] <bobstro> __Serge__:  you need to have sufficient room for a linux partion.
[11:13] <bobstro> __Serge__:  10G is plenty. just do manual partitioning and don't zap your windows.
[11:14] <jhutchins> __Serge__: You know how you can get a boot menu on Windows that lets you pick different modes?
[11:14] <jhutchins> __Serge__: ?
[11:14] <__Serge__> well... thant's the problem.... i don't understand that kind of stuff... manual partitioning??? boot menu???
[11:15] <jhutchins> __Serge__: What kubuntu will do is there will be a little menu when you start the PC, it will let you pick Windows or Kubuntu (or some other things).
[11:15] <dragon> hi ive had ubuntu edgy for 2 months and i just did a full update and now have 1 more ubuntu to select how do i remove it
[11:15] <jhutchins> __Serge__: It will start kubuntu by default after a certain time.
[11:15] <jhutchins> !install | __Serge__
[11:15] <ubotu> __Serge__: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:16] <__Serge__> what is Kubuntu, with "K"??
[11:16] <geggam> kde desktop
[11:16] <jhutchins> __Serge__: Ubuntu uses the gnome desktop.
[11:16] <__Serge__> i only know ubuntu
[11:16] <__Serge__> ahhh... ok...
[11:16] <linux__> serge
[11:16] <jhutchins> __Serge__: kde's a little more techie, maybe more like windows.
[11:17] <jhutchins> __Serge__: Has more options, which can be confusing.
[11:17] <__Serge__> i see
[11:17] <__Serge__> then i like more ubuntu...
[11:17] <jhutchins> __Serge__: Gnome's supposed to be very user friendly, but obviously most of us are here because we like KDE better.
[11:18] <ubuntu_> !snack
[11:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <jhutchins> __Serge__: There's also xubuntu, using the lighter xfce desktop, but that's definitely more unixish.
[11:18] <bobstro> gnome is probably great for a new user. a good "mom & dad" interface.
[11:18] <__Serge__> eehhh... what is KDE?
[11:18] <jhutchins> !botsnack
[11:18] <ubotu> Yum!
[11:18] <jhutchins> !kde | serge
[11:18] <ubotu> serge: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[11:18] <ranjan> hi
[11:18] <ubuntu_> !info moonbuggy
[11:18] <jhutchins> __Serge__: It's a collection of software that gives you most of what you want your computer to do.  The programs share common functions for efficiency.
[11:18] <ubotu> Package moonbuggy does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[11:19] <__Serge__> aah, ok... i get it now..
[11:19] <jhutchins> __Serge__: Derived from CDE, the Unix Common Desktop Environment.
[11:19] <ubuntu_> !
[11:19] <dougtx> i just can't get into gnome
[11:19] <dougtx> i dont like the look, or the way it handles things like samba and such
[11:19] <dougtx> out of the box
[11:19] <bobstro> dougtx:  it strikes me as "freedom from choice" alternative.
[11:20] <dougtx> don't get me wrong, it works just fine
[11:20] <__Serge__> So... you say that i just have to insert the Ubuntu CD
[11:20] <ubuntu_> !info moon-buggy
[11:20] <ranjan> pidgin huh!
[11:20] <__Serge__> make a partition and then it will install itself?
[11:20] <ubotu> moon-buggy: Drive some car across the moon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.51-1 (edgy), package size 124 kB, installed size 284 kB
[11:20] <dougtx> but it takes a lot to make it lok nice
[11:20] <dougtx> and I dont lie the default software packages
[11:20] <ranjan> !pidgin
[11:21] <ubotu> pidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept - chances are it will still be called Gaim in Feisty; look for the change in Feisty+1
[11:21] <bobstro> dougtx:  what, you don't like turd-brown?
[11:21] <snama> what new software will there be in kubuntu feisty?
[11:21] <dougtx> haha :)
[11:21] <__Serge__> ?
[11:21] <jhutchins> Bashing gnome is off topic here.
[11:21] <geggam> it is gaim
[11:21] <lupul> can anyone help me with quake 3?
[11:21] <bobstro> sorry, just a bit of humor.
[11:21] <dougtx> i dont know why they dont do something with reg ubuntu
[11:21] <dougtx> it looks like ass...
[11:21] <dougtx> :)
[11:21] <jhutchins> __Serge__: There's an "Install to disk" option on the star menu.
[11:21] <geggam> i just changed the sources list to feisty to see if i could break things
[11:21] <lupul> i got it from the internet by torrents but i can't pla
[11:21] <lupul> y
[11:22] <dougtx> and some of the default software is still very "oldschool"
[11:22] <bobstro> is there something better than menu editor for reorganizing menus?
[11:22] <bobstro> like two-pane drag & drop between windows?
[11:23] <bobstro> ranjan:  well good for you?
[11:23] <geggam> vi ?
[11:23] <jhutchins> bobstro: I don't think so.
[11:23] <ranjan> bobstro: thanks
[11:24] <dougtx> geggam> vi is an editor
[11:24] <bobstro> ranjan:  you know it's telling us what you're listenign toright?
[11:24] <geggam> yes dougtx
[11:24] <geggam> menu edit implies editing
[11:24] <bobstro> er, "listening to"
[11:24] <ranjan> bobstro: yes
[11:24] <geggam> at least for me
[11:24] <bobstro> ranjan:  imagine if everyone did that. channel would be useless.
[11:24] <dougtx> i thought you were asking what it was
[11:24] <geggam> ok... sorry
[11:24] <jhutchins> ranjan: Generally considered rude in tech echos.
[11:25] <ranjan> bobstro: ok thanks
[11:25] <jhutchins> bobstro: That kind of thing is allowed in teh social channels.
[11:25] <bobstro> ranjan:  not to mention nobody really wants to know. it said britney spears.
[11:25] <dougtx> there  have been a lot of people in here to day just asking basic questions
[11:25] <ranjan> bobstro: ok thanks
[11:25] <bobstro> jhutchins:  yeah, but i gripe there too.
[11:25] <dougtx> easter is "install ubuntu and avoid family day" I guess
[11:25] <bobstro> dougtx:  more like "wait for yummy dinner"
[11:25] <geggam> im a BSD sorta guy who has clients interested in ubuntu dougtx so i am installing it and attempting to break it to see what it is like
[11:25] <bobstro> dougtx:  i'm not welcome in kitchen right now.
[11:26] <dougtx> yeah, hah
[11:26] <geggam> ive just been informed that i must go watch movies
[11:26] <dougtx> ubuntu is nice, but IMO it can be pretty easy to break if you go too crazy without a good idea of what you did
[11:26] <dougtx> that is IME of course
[11:26] <bobstro> geggam:  bsd clients?
[11:26] <dougtx> it makes a great OS for the average user
[11:26] <jhutchins> dougtx: Probably true of just about anything.
[11:27] <WillLuongo> I like KUbuntu ok... I actually find it harder to work with than Gentoo, but I think I am kind of abnormal... lol
[11:27] <dougtx> yeah, true, i just have always noticed it being more finnicky than other distros with some stuff
[11:27] <bobstro> dougtx:  i wish i could get more family & customers on it! less to break in many ways, at least if used properly.
[11:27] <dougtx> oh, i mean compared to windows, its night and day
[11:27] <jhutchins> WillLuongo: Probably just stuff in different places, different ways of doing things.
[11:27] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  well, initial install should be faster!
[11:27] <WillLuongo> jhutchins exactly
[11:27] <dougtx> ii mean ubuntu compared to other distos, but from a usability perspective for mom, ubuntu is best
[11:27] <WillLuongo> bobstro It was! that is why I decided to try it
[11:28] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  gentoo was appealing, but i've got 5 machines to keep up to date and novelty of just installing and configuring got old fast. i'm lazy.
[11:28] <WillLuongo> dougtx: I found that once it is set up, for most people any distro will work, it just depends on eye candy.
[11:28] <dougtx> i ust mean I have had weird stuff happen in ubuntu I never had happen in debian
[11:28] <dougtx> ubuntu has given me weird wine issues, like one day something will work, I install another app, then its just broken, with no discernable reason
[11:29] <WillLuongo> bobstro: I can imagine. I just use it on my server (very good for server).
[11:29] <bobstro> i am generally pleased with how things are working on laptops lately. desktop linux has been solid for some time now,a t least for general stuff.
[11:29] <dougtx> i tell you what though, linux has come a LONG way in teh last 10 years
[11:29] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  i use a basic debian install on the server myself.
[11:29] <bobstro> dougtx:  oh god yes.
[11:29] <WillLuongo> bobstro: my wife won't let me put linux on the laptop. she thinks I will break it.
[11:29] <bobstro> dougtx:  i remember trying to get X and printers to work.
[11:29] <WillLuongo> lol
[11:29] <dougtx> i really cannot believe that I can use ubuntu for all my needs
[11:30] <dougtx> using crossover I can even use IE
[11:30] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  hehe, well some things can be tricky. but this is working very well (edgy) with a bit of tweaking.
[11:30] <WillLuongo> bobstro: I know that... try telling her! lol
[11:30] <bobstro> dougtx:  i'm using the ies4linux for msie.
[11:30] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  make her budget for the next round of software upgrades!
[11:31] <jhutchins> !ot
[11:31] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[11:31] <WillLuongo> bobstro: lol
[11:31] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  you could try a dual-boot setup.
[11:31] <WillLuongo> bobstro: unfortunately, we are stuck with software upgrades. We both use professional apps that open source hasn't yet replicated.
[11:32] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  ah, yeah. i'm in same boat for work. at least got family off of MS office.
[11:32] <WillLuongo> bobstro: She doesn't want me to do anything to the laptop with linux. It's her baby, and after I had a crash with slax in dual boot she wasn't having any of it.
[11:32] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  ah, too bad.
[11:33] <WillLuongo> bobstro: Yeah. But I will have a laptop to play with soon enough.
[11:33] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  you clearly need your own laptop. i've got kubuntu on this and it's doing very well overall.
[11:34] <geggam> no bobstro i have databaes clients... my OS choices are driven by applications and use
[11:34] <geggam> database
[11:34] <geggam> i am starting to migrate people to desktops with linux because vista is worthless and people dont wan to buy all new hardware
[11:35] <geggam> ubuntu is very smooth on this dell laptop and i will likely start using this instead of debian
[11:35] <WillLuongo> geggam: vista really is worthless. it makes me sad. Also, sad because ReactOS doesn't really work on any of my physical machines ATM.
[11:35] <bobstro> geggam:  i think it's ready if they can break the "need" for the proprietary crap.
[11:35] <WillLuongo> Debian was my first Linux distro
[11:35] <geggam> mandrake 6.5 was mine
[11:36] <geggam> they only have need for support... give them that and they will need u
[11:36] <bobstro> geggam:  how are you handling networking with linux desktop (e.g. roaming users). i'm tinkering with NIS/NFS but think i need to go LDAP.
[11:37] <geggam> case by case basis bobstro
[11:37] <geggam> some ldap and active directory integration
[11:37] <geggam> things like that
[11:37] <bobstro> geggam:  nfs for home directories?
[11:37] <geggam> i wouldnt
[11:37] <geggam> i just do what the customer wants
[11:37] <bobstro> i want to preserve desktop ("roaming profiles") capability.
[11:38] <geggam> ldap
[11:38] <geggam> same thing as active directory
[11:38] <bobstro> geggam:  oh, you can do desktop / $HOME with LDAP?
[11:38] <geggam> later .. i must go cook now
[11:38] <bobstro> heh, ok
[11:38] <bobstro> funny priorities, but ok.
[11:42] <jeffto> Hi everybody
[11:42] <WillLuongo> Be back later
[11:43] <chemicalvamp> lets say i wanted to duel boot xp mce and edgy, how would i go about doing that/
[11:43] <jhutchins> bobstro: You can do home over nfs.
[11:44] <HymnToLife> chemicalvamp, install Win first, Edgy afterwards, you're there :)
[11:44] <HymnToLife> if win is already installed, resize the win partition and install edgy
[11:44] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: Boot floppies, boot CD's, BIOS that lets you pick boot drive, netboot, or just the standard grub or lilo bootmanager that ubuntu installs.
[11:44] <bobstro> jhutchins:  that's what i'm doing here at home, but i'm wondering how well it scales. i'd like to have a solution that is independent of microsoft.
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> naw ide have to wipe everything
[11:45] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: No you wouldn't.
[11:45] <chemicalvamp> ide prefer to wipe everythig then
[11:46] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: There are also the virtualization systems like vmware, xen, bochs, virtualbox, etc.
[11:46] <chemicalvamp> i have qemu
[11:46] <jhutchins> chemicalvamp: Use fdisk to repartition the drive, install XP to the first partition, then install kubuntu.
[11:46] <Alonea> ok, I need a little help. I am trying to get my grub back and I followed the instructions in the Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader  section, but that didn't work. The thing is, I have 2 hdds. One with windows, one with linux and I am not sure how to change the instructions on that page to fit my situation.
[11:47] <jhutchins> Alonea: Rather than telling us "that didn't work", tell us what did happen, and we will have something to work with.
[11:47] <hunshad> hey all
[11:48] <Alonea> jhutchins: well, it installed perfectly fine, no errors, but my computer is still booting into windows.
[11:48] <hunshad> i have question
[11:48] <bobstro> sounds like grub needs to go on boot drive
[11:48] <hunshad> antivus and spyware are important on kubuntu
[11:49] <Alonea> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:49] <jhutchins> Alonea: what bob said, install grub to the windows drive.
[11:49] <Alonea> thats the page I am following..
[11:49] <troll> hunshad:  no but there is clamav if you want it
[11:50] <Alonea> which section on there am I supposed to follow?
[11:50] <bobstro> Alonea:  do you know which partitions are which?
[11:50] <jhutchins> Alonea: Step six.
[11:51] <bobstro> jhutchins:  is mbr best?
[11:51] <Alonea> jhutchins: of which section?
[11:51] <pollyo> Hello
[11:51] <Alonea> Using the Desktop/LiveCD while preserving Windows Bootloader  that section?
[11:51] <WillLuongo> My apt-get is broken after i updated. It now says:
[11:51] <WillLuongo> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:51] <WillLuongo> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[11:51] <LjL> !adept fix
[11:51] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[11:51] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  are you root?
[11:51] <WillLuongo> thanks LjL
[11:51] <LjL> yeah, are you root indeed
[11:51] <WillLuongo> Bobstro: I sudo'ed it
[11:51] <LjL> permission denied is not the error message i really was thinking about
[11:51] <soulrider> do you guys know if theres a way to empty my swap or to see whats using it? its halfway full and i only got 200mb of RAM in use
[11:51] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  ok. just checking :)
[11:52] <soulrider> and theres nothing that should be using swap
[11:52] <soulrider> vmware was running, but its closed now
[11:52] <McFrosty> Is there a guide for MythTV with 7.04?
[11:52] <WillLuongo> WillLuongo: no problem. always start with the simple stuff... wait a minute! My computer isn't plugged in... ;)
[11:52] <Alonea> bobstro: yes. windows is on hda and linux is on hdb (hdb2 being root)
[11:52] <WillLuongo> oops
[11:52] <archangel_> questions on playing dvd's
[11:52] <WillLuongo> I meant to say that to Bobstro, not myself. lol
[11:52] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  heh
[11:53] <archangel_> easy ubuntu helped and played dvds for a while, but now all 'movie' dvds will not play
[11:53] <bobstro> Alonea:  i think "setup hd(0)" in that step 6 is what you're after.
[11:53] <bobstro> jhutchins:  any reason not to use mbr?
[11:53] <archangel_> home made (camcorder) dvds work
[11:54] <bobstro> Alonea:  did your windows show up in grub menu previously?
[11:54] <Alonea> bobstro: yeah. everything was fine until windows borked and I had to reinstall it
[11:54] <WillLuongo> It still isn't working
[11:54] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  is something else using apt?
[11:54] <archangel_> get same result with kaffiene as with VLC
[11:54] <troll> archangel: You need dvdcss
[11:54] <Alonea> bobstro: I did "Using the Desktop/LiveCD and Overwriting the Windows bootloader" section because i thought that was the one I was supposed to use..I wasn't sure. Someone just gave me that page and thats it
[11:55] <WillLuongo> bobstro: shouldn't be, I did a reboot
[11:55] <troll> it decrypts commecial dvds
[11:55] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  it's just that it's a LOCK issue, so i'm thinking something like that.
[11:55] <archangel_> apt get dvdcss?
[11:55] <bobstro> Alonea:  yes, it was step 6 there we meant
[11:56] <bobstro> Alonea:  did you do that yet?
[11:56] <pollyo> Anyone using Irkick?
[11:56] <pollyo> Also known as kdelirc or kcmlirc
[11:56] <troll> apt-get install libdvdcss2
[11:56] <archangel_> WillLuongo: how do I get it?
[11:56] <bobstro> Alonea:  just substitute what your system responds with for the hd(X) stuff.
[11:56] <archangel_> oh cool
[11:56] <archangel_> thanks
[11:57] <troll> I used automatix2, made it easy but that should work
[11:57] <pollyo> troll: Do you have to add a repository for that?
[11:57] <troll> for automatix2 you do
[11:57] <Ash-Fox> I really hate how firefox stops resolving things after disabling ipv6 in the kernel.
[11:57] <ScottLij> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[11:57] <hunshad> are there viruses and Trojan horse which can affect kubuntu
[11:57] <WillLuongo> bobstro: Can I check the services and kill it?
[11:58] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  yeah, see what package manager might be running. at least that's where i'd start.
[11:58] <hunshad> %c4antivus and spyware are important on kubuntu
[11:58] <archangel_> already at newest version it says
[11:58] <hunshad> antivus and spyware are important on kubuntu
[11:58] <pollyo> hunshad: A Trojan would be able to effect files that are owned by the user running an application from what I understand.  So watch what you run as "sudo"
[11:58] <Alonea> bobstro: I am on the computer that needs to be fixed...
[11:58] <archangel_> So i guess I already have it
[11:58] <bobstro> hunshad:  they won't be as successful, but yes there is the *potential*. i can't say i've seen anything effective.
[11:59] <ScottLij> how do you install dvdcss?  sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 gets this output: E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[11:59] <bobstro> Alonea:  yes, how far did you get with that process?
[11:59] <bobstro> did libdvdread3 supercede libdvdcss?
[12:00] <archangel_> ScottLij: sounds like you need vlc or kaffiene
[12:00] <WillLuongo> bobstro: I don't see any running package managers
[12:00] <mrigns> libdvdread3 if ur on edgy
[12:00] <ScottLij> kaffiene is installed
[12:00] <bobstro> WillLuongo:  possibly just a left-over lock file in /var/lock then?
[12:00] <mrigns> err on feisty
[12:00] <jhutchins> !dvd | ScottLij
[12:00] <ubotu> ScottLij: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:00] <hunshad> o
[12:00] <hunshad> ok
[12:01] <k> isnt there a vlc package?
[12:01] <mrigns> its libdvdread3 now
[12:01] <jhutchins> !adeptfix | WillLuongo
[12:01] <ubotu> WillLuongo: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:02] <archangel_> ScottLij: sorry man, I'm a nebie here. I wish I could help more. I was told to get VLC cause it handled movies better
[12:02] <Alonea> bobstro: I need to write down the instructions real quick. I didn't do any of that option one stuff. I did the second. one. will do the first one in a minute.
[12:03] <archangel_> ScottLij: however, I get the sae result (wont play encrypted movies)
[12:03] <vontux> does anyone in here use an "Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller"
[12:03] <vontux> video card
[12:03] <dragon> yeah i do
[12:03] <bobstro> vontux:  mine's a 945
[12:04] <WillLuongo> I get the following:
[12:04] <WillLuongo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of initramfs-tools:
[12:04] <WillLuongo>  initramfs-tools depends on volumeid; however:
[12:04] <WillLuongo>   Package volumeid is not installed.
[12:04] <WillLuongo> dpkg: error processing initramfs-tools (--configure):
[12:04] <WillLuongo>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:04] <vontux> bostro: do you use tv-out at all?
[12:04] <WillLuongo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:04] <WillLuongo>  initramfs-tools
[12:04] <Alonea> bobstro: Should I write it to the MBR?
[12:05] <dragon> does anyone know how i can look at my fat32 partion bc all i see is cdrom
[12:05] <pollyo> dragon: You might have to mount it.
[12:05] <dragon> ok thx but how do i mount it?
[12:06] <archangel_> can anyone help me on playing encrypted movie dvds?
[12:06] <Dekans> encrypted ?
[12:06] <archangel_> (movie dvds)
[12:06] <Dekans> archangel_: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[12:07] <dragon> archangel is talking about css  lol
[12:07] <archangel_> I did
[12:07] <Alonea> archangel_: on linux, I have no idea. I do all my unencryptions in windows still...is it sony?
[12:07] <archangel_> already at newest version it says
[12:07] <bobstro> what repository does libdvdcss2 live in?
[12:07] <WillLuongo> !adept
[12:07] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[12:08] <Alonea> archangel_: if its sony's accros (or however you spell it), I haven't seen a way in linux yet.
[12:08] <Dekans> bobstro: you must find it on medibuntu if it's not on universe repo
[12:08] <WillLuongo> adept is gone
[12:08] <WillLuongo> i broke something
[12:08] <WillLuongo> lol
[12:08] <archangel_> not sure what your asking Alonea
[12:08] <Dekans> archangel_: wich player do you use ?
[12:09] <archangel_> kaffine and vlc
[12:09] <troll> goto your sources list and make sure the unuverse and multiverse repos are enables
[12:09] <Alonea> archangel_: look on your DVD, if it says sony pictures, then its accros, not CSS
[12:09] <archangel_> ok
[12:10] <Alonea> archangel_: there is the spelling: ARccOS
[12:11] <Alonea> i will be back in a bit..going to try to get my linux back.
[12:12] <archangel_> its touchtone pictures - columbia - hollywood pictures....