[12:38] <desrt> http://www.answers.com/topic/gallant
[12:38] <desrt> http://www.answers.com/topic/gnu
[03:13] <bluefoxicy> hmm
[03:13] <bluefoxicy> Gaim is now called Pidgin
[03:14] <bluefoxicy> too late in the Feisty roll-out to change the package name
[03:15] <sn0> nice new name :)
[03:15] <bhale> is that some other language
[03:15] <bhale> or just nonsense.
[03:15] <sharms> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin
[03:16] <bhale> goodness
[03:16] <Burgundavia> and in other news: steve mcintyre is 2nd again
[03:17] <bhale> Burgundavia: dpl?
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> yeah apparently they were tired of AOL trying to sue them
[03:18] <Burgundavia> bhale: yep
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> and AOL was tired of running into a corner and hiding under a newspaper when they realized every new GAIM developer still had lawyers
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> (they would try again when a new dev took lead of the project)
[03:22] <_ion> The feisty gaim package could still be modified to "Provides: pidgin", no?
[03:29] <Fujitsu> A little late for that, and there's little reason.
[03:30] <StevenK> I daresay Debian will handle it, and we'll get a sync for Feisty+1
[03:43] <sn0> nn <3
[05:57] <desrt> is debootstrapping ubuntu-desktop likely to result in even a marginally working system these days?
[06:03] <crimsun> yes. We're reasonably close to RC, so I'd hope so.
[06:04] <desrt> i actually meant that in the general sense
[06:04] <desrt> as in: is this a supported way of installing a working ubuntu system?
[06:05] <crimsun> supported, no.
[06:05] <crimsun> Does it work? Yes.
[06:05] <desrt> that's nice.
[06:05] <desrt> i'm just afraid of all the other magic things that the installer does that won't be done :)
[06:06] <crimsun> Granted you'll have to do some infrastructure work yourself with locale-gen, tzconfig, etc.
[06:06] <crimsun> well, right, that stuff you'd have to do by hand.
[06:06] <desrt> hah.  feisty lacks 'man'
[06:06] <desrt> wow.
[06:06] <desrt> you can tell space is getting tight on the CD when...
[06:08] <desrt> it is mez.
[06:09] <Mez> it's Mr Lortie
[06:09] <desrt> how are you today, sir?
[06:14] <Mez> I'm not a sir yet!
[06:14] <Mez> And I'm tired, just got home from work
[06:19] <desrt> probably doesn't help that this drive has millions of inodes.....
[06:20] <desrt> (like... 70 million of them)
[06:24] <jdong> ouch
[06:25] <jdong> that'll be a pain
[06:25] <jdong> took MIT in excess of 4 days to fsck the mailserver, to the point that they gave up on the procedure
[06:26] <Hobbsee> hahhaa
[06:27] <Hobbsee> excuses for homework not being done are always good :)
[06:28] <jdong> yes they certainly are
[06:28] <jdong> now what's the excuse for why my laundry hasn't been folded 3 hours later....
[06:28] <jdong> hmm.....
[06:29] <Hobbsee> it rained
[06:32] <desrt> blame it on the rain?
[06:32] <jdong> lol :)
[06:33] <Hobbsee> yes.
[06:35] <desrt> god
[06:35] <desrt> erasing all these files is gonna take FOREVER
[06:36] <desrt> ext3 really doesn't scale too well
[06:36] <jdong> well which FS'es erase well?
[06:36] <jdong> basically only reiserfs....
[06:37] <ctan> Hi, can anyone give me information regarding the SoC?
[06:37] <desrt> the reason i erase is because it does everything else so poorly :p
[06:37] <desrt> ctan; this is pretty much exactly the wrong place to ask :)
[06:37] <desrt> ctan; but what did you have in mind?
[06:38] <ctan> well, I submitted my proposal pretty early, but I'm not sure if I was supposed to add it to the SoC wiki too
[06:38] <desrt> nope.
[06:38] <desrt> all tracking is done through the google interface
[06:38] <desrt> if your proposal is in there then you're fine
[06:38] <ctan> oh okay, thanks :)
[06:40] <ctan> could you tell me which channel would be more related to SoC? 
[06:40] <desrt> i'm actually not sure for ubuntu
[06:41] <ctan> cool, what project is that ?
[06:41] <desrt> gnome
[06:42] <ctan> did you get a lot of good proposals?
[06:43] <desrt> most of the proposals were ones that we would not accept, but we definitely have more than enough good ones
[06:43] <ctan> I looked through SoC 2006 accepted proposals, and the nicest ones that I could find were for AbiSource & Internet2
[06:52] <ctan> desrt; is it usually so dead in here, or is everyone just using private messages?
[06:52] <desrt> it's usually more active in here.  it's a holiday weekend, though
[06:53] <desrt> it's also a week before a release so those few people who are on their computers have lots of work to do :)
[06:54] <Burgundavia> are the accepted proposals out yet?
[06:55] <ctan> ah yes, i'm pretty excited about that
[06:55] <desrt> Burgundavia; on wednesday
[06:55] <ctan> nope, not until the 11th
[06:55] <desrt> at "5pm"
[06:55] <desrt> but i wouldn't be too suprised if they're a bit late
[06:55] <desrt> google is tragically optimistic :)
[06:56] <ctan> my application's last modified date still hasn't changed, so I think Ubuntu must be swamped
[06:56] <desrt> the mentor interface to SoC allows us to rank and comment on your application without you seeing the change
[06:57] <desrt> there's also the possibility that your application immediately got ranked negatively and hasn't been looked at since
[06:57] <ctan> hehe yep :P
[07:30] <miyako> hey, I think I found a bug in the Feisty installer
[07:30] <miyako> just though I would stop by and report it, see if there was any debugging info that would be useful to anyone
[07:30] <LaserJock> ok, file a bug on Launchpad
[07:31] <miyako> alright
[07:31] <LaserJock> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug and the Desktop cd installer package is called ubiquity
[07:31] <Saied> hi all
[07:31] <Saied> Seveas: problem with pngtobogl elready exists
[07:32] <Saied> can anyone help me in usplash customization?
[07:33] <Saied> i generated usplash-artwork.so but cant be loaded at boot time
[07:33] <Saied> how can i debug that?
[07:36] <Hobbsee> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/104176/
[07:36] <ubotu> Malone bug 104176 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org-style-crystal recommends  kde-icons-crystal which pulls in KDE for ubuntu users" [High,Confirmed]  
[07:37] <LaserJock> don't ... do ... it
[07:38] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: why?
[07:38] <LaserJock> no reason
[07:38] <LaserJock> I just like saying that ;-)
[07:38] <Hobbsee> LaserJock: apart from the fact htat it's oo.o, and that i wouldnt be test building it, for that reason.
[07:39] <Hobbsee> holy mashed potatoes... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/104176/
[07:39] <ubotu> Malone bug 104176 in openoffice.org "openoffice.org-style-crystal recommends  kde-icons-crystal which pulls in KDE for ubuntu users" [Critical,Confirmed]  
[07:39] <jdong> LaserJock: that's kinda what I was told when I wanted to plug in that 20,000-turn electromagnet to a marine battery....
[07:39] <Hobbsee> Need to get 309MB of source archives. sorry
[07:40] <LaserJock> jdong: hmm
[07:40] <jdong> Hobbsee: it'll unpack to in excess of a 8GB build environment and take 9 hours on a P4 :)
[07:40] <Hobbsee> jdong: that's why i wont test build
[07:40] <jdong> Hobbsee: that's about one of the only things I learned from gentoo ;-)
[07:40] <Hobbsee> lol
[07:40] <LaserJock> 9hr?
[07:40] <jdong> LaserJock: it was 9hr on my A64 3000+
[07:40] <jdong> LaserJock: stock gentoo emerge openoffice.org
[07:40] <LaserJock> I must have been a while since I compiled it
[07:41] <LaserJock> I never remember it taking that long on gentoo
[07:41] <jdong> LaserJock: I'm not sure if advances in the compiler stack have reduced it
[07:41] <LaserJock> KDE was always the killer
[07:41] <jdong> LaserJock: honestly most people emerge openoffice.org-bin
[07:41] <jdong> LaserJock: not the whole openoffice.org source build....
[07:41] <LaserJock> well, it's been a couple years
[07:41] <jdong> LaserJock: OOo takes absurdly long to build
[07:41] <jdong> it's not even funny
[07:41] <jdong> longer than all of KDE combined.
[07:41] <LaserJock> hmm
[07:42] <jdong> you most likely just emerged openoffice.org-bin :D
[07:42] <LaserJock> yeah, I remember before they split it all up
[07:42] <jdong> or ximian-openoffice.org-bin
[07:42] <LaserJock> nah, I built it a few times
[07:42] <jdong> LaserJock: lol once I put /var on a 4GB partition....
[07:42] <jdong> kinda didn't think ahead on that one :D
[07:42] <LaserJock> my memory must have been off
[07:43] <LaserJock> it was probably during one of the "oh, openoffice and KDE updates, I'll come back next week" moments ;-)
[07:43] <jdong> hehehe :)
[07:43] <LaserJock> man I loved Gentoo
[07:44] <jdong> I gotta say it was a fun ride
[07:44] <LaserJock> but thank goodness Ubuntu came around
[07:44] <jdong> as much as I complain about it nowadays, I did have a lot of fun with the OS.
[07:44] <jdong> and Ubuntu came just when I lost faith in Gentoo
[07:44] <jdong> perfect timing
[07:45] <LaserJock> yeah, my problem was always that I never cared about building from source or optimization
[07:46] <LaserJock> I just loved that darn near every Linux app I ever wanted was an emerge away
[07:46] <jdong> I went to gentoo for its up-to-date repos and vast breadth of portage
[07:46] <LaserJock> yep
[07:46] <jdong> I stayed with it for its community.... Inflammatory at times? most certainly... but some of the most effin creative minds of what you can do with a Linux system
[07:47] <jdong> I left because of growing QA issues with updates, and also the rolling updates systems often left upgrade "surprises" for me to fix at the most inopportune times
[07:48] <ctan> doesn't that happen with ubuntu too though?
[07:48] <sharms> ctan: in theory no.
[07:48] <jdong> ctan: not nearly as much
[07:48] <jdong> ctan: our QA mishaps are childsplay compared to some of the Gentoo beefs
[07:48] <jdong> the most infuriating one I remember.. they were pushing a critical mysql security fix....
[07:48] <jdong> and the package forgot to install libmysqlclient40.so
[07:49] <jdong> which effectively zapped the LAMP stack
[07:49] <jdong> ctan: and Ubuntu has fixed update intervals. That is, you deal with major changes every time you choose to upgrade to a new release
[07:49] <jdong> incremental security/bugfix updates are very unintrusive
[07:50] <jdong> you will never apply an apache update to a released version , then have it refuse to start because configfile syntax changed
[07:50] <ctan> ahh, I've never tried gentoo before
[07:50] <ctan> their online documentation is really good though
[07:51] <sharms> yes their wiki is very good
[07:51] <jdong> their documentation and wiki are both superb
[07:51] <jdong> and the tips/tricks section of their forum is even better
[07:52] <jdong> they have some of the neatest mods to a gentoo system
[07:52] <jdong> such as a squashfs root, or a completely boot-to-RAM system
[07:53] <ctan> is it really much faster to have something compiled vs downloading a binary?
[07:54] <jdong> I wouldn't say so
[07:54] <jdong> what makes gentoo 'faster' is more related to the fact that via USE flags, users can exclude unneeded functionality
[07:54] <jdong> it's that extra level of customizability that gives gentoo the edge in that regard
[07:54] <jdong> (also they usually choose not to apply any patches that add certain features at the cost of performance)
[07:54] <ctan> but with even more tweaking needed :-O
[07:55] <jdong> ctan: frankly I think the time spent tweaking/configuring/maintaining is not even remotely close to being justified by the 'performance gains'
[07:55] <ctan> yes, that's why I'm using windows
[07:56] <ctan> uh oh don't flame me :P
[07:56] <jdong> :)
[07:56] <ctan> I love ubuntu-server though
[07:57] <ctan> except my USB was broken from dapper -> edgy
[07:58] <ctan> I think I will be switching to ubuntu for desktop soon, once I get starcraft running under wine
[08:00] <jdong> lol starcraft works ok under wine
[08:00] <jdong> just no battlenet
[08:00] <jdong> (but this is terribly off topic :D)
[08:01] <ctan> yes :)
[08:02] <ctan> i'm going to sleep, g'nite
[02:10] <cjwatson_> desrt: huh? feisty does not lack 'man'
[02:11] <cjwatson_> desrt: sounds like you forgot to install ubuntu-standard
[02:17] <Nafallo> man-db even :-)
[02:17] <cjwatson> apt-cache show man-db, I know what the package name is ...
[02:18] <cjwatson> but desrt was talking about /usr/bin/man
[02:19] <Nafallo> ah. I thought that was the package for that bin :-)
[02:20] <Nafallo> cjwatson: dooh. are you the maintainer for EVERYTHING important? :-)
[02:21] <cjwatson> I took on a fair amount of core stuff about five or six years ago
[02:21] <Hobbsee> Nafallo: no, not upstart.
[02:21] <nhy> what are the correct opengl headers for ubuntu?
[02:22] <Nafallo> Hobbsee: he might aswell have the old init though ;-)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> :P
[02:22] <Nafallo> sysvinit, that's the one :-)
[02:22] <Hobbsee> nhy: #ubuntu for support
[02:22] <nhy> sorry
[02:27] <chaks> hi all
[02:27] <chaks> is there anybody with whom i can discuss regarding Ubuntu AcademicInvolvement as given in this page - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AcademicInvolvement
[02:27] <chaks> thanks
[02:28] <chaks> if this is not the right channel, am sorry :(
[02:31] <Hobbsee> chaks: interesting
[02:32] <chaks> thanks Hobbsee, but not sure which channel I should use :)
[02:32] <chaks> am a Masters Student in University Of Otago
[02:32] <Hobbsee> chaks: probably not here.  maybe #ubuntu-motu.  anyway, i'd look for dholbach, who is the guy who wrote that
[02:32] <chaks> and want to discuss regarding my project
[02:32] <Hobbsee> lots of people are on holidays at the moment
[02:32] <chaks> oh..yea, Easter!
[02:32] <Hobbsee> (the people who'd be able to point you in hte right direction)
[02:32] <chaks> :D
[02:32] <Hobbsee> yeah
[02:33] <chaks> anyways, thanks Hobbsee, will check the #ubuntu-motu channel too
[02:33] <Hobbsee> come back in a couple of days, look for dholbach - he can at least point you to where you shoudl go
[02:33] <Hobbsee> :)
[02:33] <chaks> sure :)
[02:33] <chaks> brb
[02:43] <Pupeno_> Hello.
[02:44] <chaks> hi Pupeno_
[02:44] <Hobbsee> Pupeno_: please see the /topic
[02:44] <Pupeno_> Hobbsee: yes.
[02:44] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:10] <\sh> moins
[03:11] <Nafallo> morning
[03:12] <zyga> hey 
[03:29] <zyga> re
[03:30] <zyga> thank you guys
[04:17] <mjg59> tepsipakki: Hm. When you changed wacom-tools to use /dev/input/wacom, did you update the X server config to match?
[04:18] <Nafallo> according to changelog, he did.
[04:19] <mjg59> Ah, yeah
[04:19] <mjg59> I was looking at the wrong package
[04:22] <tepsipakki> mjg59: yes, it should be fine now
[04:22] <mjg59> tepsipakki: Yup, looks good. Thanks!
[05:04] <okaratas> released for debian 4.0 "etch"
[05:06] <Zic> hello, I have a particular question : in Kubuntu Feisty, the OEM installer is pretty cool, and simply, in Ubuntu Feisty, we always have a poor graphic OEM ...
[05:06] <Zic> anything is planned for this ?
[05:21] <desrt> cjwatson; i just installed the herd5 cd...
[05:31] <Pupeno_> I think I've found at the very least, an incompatibility between Edgy's and Feisty's cryptsetup
[05:31] <Hobbsee> Pupeno_: please file a bug on it
[05:31] <Pupeno_> If any dev whishes for my help in debugging this, I'll be willing to spend some hours in it before I remake my crypted FS restoring the backup.
[05:32] <Pupeno_> Hobbsee: I will.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> seeing as the relevant devs probably arent here
[05:33] <Pupeno_> obviously, my password to launchpad is on the encrypted FS... :/
[05:43] <stgraber> Pupeno_: What kind of problem is that ? (I'm not a developper but I've seen some cryptsetup bugs on LP)
[05:43] <Pupeno_> stgraber: the encrypted FS is not readable.
[05:44] <Pupeno_> stgraber: encrypted in Edgy, not readable in Feisty.
[05:45] <stgraber> Pupeno_: even if you try to mount it manually from the LiveCD for instance ?
[05:45] <Pupeno_> stgraber: I don't have a Feisty LiveCD, but from the Edgy LiveCD it is readable.
[05:46] <stgraber> ok, so when do you actually see the problem ?
[05:46] <stgraber> at boot time ? after ?
[05:46] <Pupeno_> stgraber: when I try to mount the mapping.
[05:47] <Pupeno_> stgraber: manually, on the Feisty install (which was upgraded from Edgy).
[05:47] <Pupeno_> stgraber: it was supousedly to mount automatically, but nevermind that.
[05:47] <Pupeno_> stgraber: I tried fscking it and what is found doesn't resemble a partition.
[05:47] <stgraber> :(
[05:47] <Pupeno_> a filesystem I mean.
[05:50] <jdong> I would expect fscking an encrypted partition would be a pretty futile operation ;-)
[05:51] <Pupeno_> jdong: I am fscking the unencrypted mapping of the partition.
[05:51] <sharms> jdong: I *tried* to resize my ext3 partition, but I didnt realize that ubuntu automatically mounts it, fsck'd it and then updated fdisk for new size
[05:51] <jdong> ah, ok
[05:51] <sharms> it died.
[05:51] <jdong> sharms: ouch
[05:51] <jdong> sharms: I did the same to my XFS the other day -- I remounted it ro to repair it
[05:51] <sharms> ofcourse there is no good way to find superblocks if you resize
[05:51] <jdong> sharms: but it turns out mount lies
[05:52] <jdong> and it wasn't ro....
[05:52] <sharms> ooooh
[05:53] <sharms> ha that is why for now on I am keeping all my important data written down on sticky notes next to my desk
[05:53] <sharms> I think it is the future of datastorage
[05:53] <jdong> lol
[05:53] <jdong> or you can try backups like what I fortunately did :D
[05:54] <sharms> I dont backup my files, I just generally assume they exist in more than 1 place
[05:54] <jdong> lol :)
[05:54] <jdong> I have a friend who does that :)
[05:54] <Pupeno_> When I travel I take only one of the and leave the other behind.
[05:54] <jdong> it turns out his assumptions are kinda flawed
[05:54] <jdong> like he has a RAID0....
[05:55] <jdong> and 2 months ago he swapped out one member for a faster drive
[05:55] <jdong> and last week that faster drive died
[05:55] <jdong> and he plugged in the 2-month-old one
[05:55] <jdong> and expected it to work somehow
[05:55] <jdong> that was a fun phone call :)
[05:56] <sharms> haha
[05:56] <Pupeno_> brb.
[05:57] <jdong> to make matters worse, he is an AVID defragger :)
[05:57] <jdong> so I basically had to tell him he has 4kb perforated versions of all his files now :D
[06:02] <pupeno> I'm back.
[06:18] <pupeno> Ok, I've reported my problem on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-mount/+bug/88213/comments/25
[06:18] <ubotu> Malone bug 88213 in gnome-mount "Feisty does not mount encrypted partition" [Medium,In progress]  
[06:27] <pupeno> Does anybody know any other tests I could run to provide a good report of the problem before re-installing? [about bug 88213] 
[06:27] <ubotu> Malone bug 88213 in gnome-mount "Feisty does not mount encrypted partition" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88213
[06:45] <vciaglia> hi, i think there's a problem with firefox on amd64. When i use multiple tabs and i try to close one of them... i have a server X restart!
[06:49] <andreasw> Hi I use feisty and my CDs get ejected after some time
[06:50] <andreasw> [31145.776312]  ata2: soft resetting port
[06:50] <andreasw> [31148.910237]  ata2.00: configured for UDMA/33
[06:50] <andreasw> [31149.074351]  ata2.01: configured for UDMA/33
[06:50] <andreasw> [31149.074374]  ata2: EH complete
[06:50] <andreasw> [31160.854855]  sr0: CDROM not ready.  Make sure there is a disc in the drive.
[06:50] <andreasw> I find this in the logs
[06:53] <Seveas> !bugs | andreasw 
[06:53] <ubotu> andreasw: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:00] <sharms> andreasw: the best idea there is to check the integrity of the cd first, and also it looks like your cdrom drive might be getting ready to go
[07:00] <sharms> andreasw: most cdrom drives are made very cheap, wouldn't be the first time
[07:00] <andreasw> it worked with 6.10 it works with windows it works with arch it works with freebsd
[07:01] <andreasw> but of course it is a hardware problem
[07:01] <mjg59> The libata ATAPI code is known to be dubious in places
[07:01] <mjg59> It's entirely plausible that it's a kernel problem
[07:02] <mjg59> andreasw: It would be helpful if you could file a bug with that information, and possibly thee previous few lines of dmesg
[07:02] <sharms> andreasw: it is no reason to get mad about it, I am simply saying it was possible
[07:02] <andreasw> it only occurs with audio cds however...
[07:02] <andreasw> data cds aren't ejected
[07:02] <jdong_> mjg59: I think it might be a libata issue too; those don't look like ordinary unreadable-disc kind of errors
[07:02] <mjg59> Interesting.
[07:03] <mjg59> jdong_: Those are just the libata "An  error occured, trying tor ecover" messages
[07:03] <andreasw> the funny thing is k3b reads out from cd even if there isn't any cd in the device
[07:03] <andreasw> it sounds a little bit strange than
[07:03] <andreasw> the output I mean
[07:17] <finalbeta> Anyone for the kernel here? I'm starting to fear Feisty could air with this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/98782 , And that would render it unusable for me. Check out the latest attached dmesg. I hope I don't overstep any boundaries here, but the desperate... :p.
[07:17] <ubotu> Malone bug 98782 in linux-source-2.6.20 "kernel 2.6.20-12/13-386 on Dell Inspiron 8200 means 10 minute boot time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  
[07:18] <finalbeta> It's 15 minutes with la latest kernel.
[07:20] <sharms> finalbeta: I bet there are kernel people at #ubuntu-kernel
[07:21] <finalbeta> Ok, thanks.
[07:21] <andreasw> so many ata bugs
[07:23] <finalbeta> The forums are showing many people with ata problems also. But for many it just seems to be a slower UDMA mode. But one can expect allot of nagging at Feisty release.
[07:31] <sharms> pitti: is that release date 100% or is there a chance it gets pushed back?
[07:34] <Treenaks> sharms: there is always a change it gets pushed back.. however slight :)
[07:34] <Treenaks> change=chance
[07:34] <sharms> I am hoping so, the amount of open bugs is alarming
[07:35] <Treenaks> sharms: you could submit patches :)
[07:36] <sharms> Treenaks: patches are preceded by triaging or organizing, and there is enough triage to last weeks
[07:36] <pitti> sharms: only major regressions/problems will cause it to slip
[08:05] <seb128> hi
[08:05] <seb128> pitti: around?
[09:46] <robertj_> would this fix the legions of "samba doesn't work" posts related to not creating samba users? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSambaIntegrationSpec
[09:48] <robertj_> there are at least 3 bugs opened against that issue a week
[09:52] <robertj_> can someone *pretty-please* take a look at that just to give a first impression/
[11:04] <thepumpkin1979> hi. is there a way to trim the memory workingset for a process?
[11:45] <ColonelKorn> Hey all
[12:05] <Burgundavia> fabbione: you around? I wanted some information on the new clustering stuff in feisty for the release notes
[12:10] <bongy> I want to make a PPC64 build of Ubuntu (for Xbox 360) was thinking about a short cut via apt-get source and debootstrap but maybe there is buildscript out there? Sry if asking in the wrong channel