=== BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.210.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:48] !hdparm [12:48] Sorry, I don't know anything about hdparm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [12:49] !synaptoc [12:49] Sorry, I don't know anything about synaptoc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [12:49] !synaptic [12:49] synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto [12:49] nice [12:51] synaptic FTW [12:54] aptitude > * [12:54] ;) === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-178-111.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:15] dum dee dum === aussieman [n=bobo@55.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman- [n=bobo@55.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === kurt_ [n=kurt@bas6-kitchener06-1177626844.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:24] dum dum gum gum [01:27] !install [01:27] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate [01:27] doo doo dee doo [01:28] music, nice [01:28] boredom tends to do that to us ... === kalikiana [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-152-66.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [01:29] kalikiana: hello [01:29] boredom ey? ok, "forwards I am heavy, backwards I am not. What am I?" [01:29] hi maxamillion :) === atarinox [n=atarinox@c-68-83-2-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] tors_: i code when i'm bored ;) [01:30] maxamillion: roger that === maxamillion gets back to his symbol table generator for the j0 programming language === kalikiana wonders what max is actually doing [01:32] kalikiana: i am taking a compiler theory class this semester and the first part of the compiler is to write a token recognizer and then create a symbol table with the tokens and i am doing it for a programming language that my professor made up called "j0" [01:33] Hmmm [01:33] kalikiana: and after looking through the source code for python i am realizing that i am being required to do it the hard way in my class :( [01:33] The special install disk for Xubuntu doesn't detect my external HD [01:34] snarfer: but the livecd does? [01:34] Yes [01:34] interesting [01:34] maxamillion: well, yes, that's because python already does the heavy lifting for you [01:34] crimsun: huh? [01:34] back in my day, we wrote the parsers et al. in ALGOL [01:35] maxamillion: compare what python & perl do to what you're doing [01:35] maxamillion, You're using python for compiler theory? That's cool :) [01:35] Anyone have an idea? [01:35] crimsun: i am talking about the C source code that makes up the python interpreter ... the methods the python devel team seem to make a little more sense and be easier than what i am learning in class [01:36] maxamillion: that's precisely what I'm referring to [01:36] remember that different doesn't mean worse, although sometimes it does. [01:36] kalikiana: no, my prof isn't teaching in any language, he teaches the theory and we have to go code it [01:36] Well, that's even better! [01:36] the absolute coolest language is Perl for any theory === limbert65 [n=limbert6@65-73-120-26.nas1.ski.ia.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:37] crimsun: well we are doing table driven deterministic finite state automaton ... its not bad, but the tables for the tokenizer is like 30x30 [01:37] it's absolutely sick what you can do with it - and this is coming from someone who prefers to not use Perl === kalikiana laughs at crimsun and punches his nose === kalikiana dislikes perl :P [01:38] keep a look out for what the next major revision of Perl is going to do [01:38] i prefer to not use perl either ... i respect it, but i don't like to code in it [01:38] anyhow, that's all off-topic [01:38] yeah ... it really is :( === maxamillion goes to -offtopic [01:39] Humble request for help..... [01:39] !ask | limbert65 [01:39] limbert65: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [01:39] just today, did a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, and now can't eject optical media from the desktop of file manager, must use command line [01:39] Well [01:39] This is gonna take a whil [01:40] while* === snarfer [n=snarfer@unaffiliated/snarfer] has left #xubuntu [] [01:40] limbert65: did you upgrade to feisty or just get a new kernel update for edgy? [01:40] when I right-click on DVD or CD on desktop, and choose Eject or Unmount, I get "Failed to execute child process 'gnome-eject'. No such file or directory." [01:41] I can umount from command line, then eject manually [01:41] Feisty === kurt_ [n=kurt@bas6-kitchener06-1177626844.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:42] Actually, I had already upgraded from edgy to feisty a few days back, and have been having a few troubles with gstreamer/Rhythmbox, and I decided just to do it again, see if anything improved. [01:43] limbert65: yeah, if its an upgrade in feisty you might need to report a bug, we are still working on getting rid of some final bugs [01:43] Now, can't mount, unmount, or eject using desktop or file manager. [01:43] yeah, it's not exactly shocking, its' just that it was working fine (under Feisty) and now (still under Feisty) isn't. [01:44] Think there's any way to fix it, or should I just keep upgrading? [01:44] limbert65: yeah, some updates fix some issues and create others ... that's why we beta test :) [01:44] I understand that. [01:44] limbert65: just keep upgrading, it should be resolved soon [01:44] Ok, won't worry too much about it then. Not too much trouble to just umount from the terminal. [01:45] limbert65: yeah ... still kind of a bumber though [01:45] Could be worse. Rather minor problem in the larger scheme of things. [01:46] Thanks for the response. [01:46] limbert65: yeah, i assume that resulted when they released a fix for a bug i had recently been monitoring [01:46] limbert65: anytime :) === kurt_ [n=kurt@bas6-kitchener06-1177626844.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === kumamoto [n=kumamoto@68-116-129-113.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has left #xubuntu [] === stephane [n=stephane@modemcable187.120-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #xubuntu === stephane [n=stephane@modemcable187.120-57-74.mc.videotron.ca] has left #xubuntu ["Quitte"] === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.218.210.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Xtreem_ [n=Xtreem@rummers.force9.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === chili [n=chili@pool-70-105-89-229.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:43] Hello. === PiTcReW [n=PiTcReW@c-76-100-32-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:44] I'm new to Xubuntu, everything runs smooth, except my internet connection, can anyone help? === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === boatonzebridge [i=tom@gateway/tor/x-ec00b9f3ddb56e58] has joined #xubuntu === boatonzebridge [i=tom@gateway/tor/x-ec00b9f3ddb56e58] has left #xubuntu [] === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === Shaba1 [n=nunya@ip68-101-167-142.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:41] hello anyone at the keys here? === Shaba1 [n=nunya@ip68-101-167-142.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #xubuntu [] === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.89.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsc1 is now known as Laibsch [04:57] !ask | Shaba1 [04:57] Shaba1: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [04:57] oh, gone already :P === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.89.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === mode/#xubuntu [+o Pumpernickel] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#xubuntu:Pumpernickel] : Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Got a problem? Just ask! Don't ask to ask. | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | 7.04 BETA is out! === mode/#xubuntu [-o Pumpernickel] by Pumpernickel [05:05] hmm === mode/#xubuntu [+o Pumpernickel] by ChanServ === ..[topic/#xubuntu:Pumpernickel] : Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Got a problem? Just ask! Don't ask to ask. | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-users | 7.04 BETA is out! === mode/#xubuntu [-o Pumpernickel] by Pumpernickel [05:05] Dunno how the extra spaces got in there. === cfpvl [n=ubuntu@201.20.213.42.user.ajato.com.br] has joined #xubuntu [05:39] why do i keep getting a "No root file system" (while choosing mount points) during the installation of my xubuntu 6.10? This is the 2nd time i install it and i never got this message for the 1st one... [05:41] cfpvl, Possibly because you need to delete and recreate it [05:41] It's a nasty bug I fear. [05:44] kalinkiana, i did try to format the partition again, but got the same msg... [05:45] you mean i should erase and create the partition again? for the root and swap partitions? === mbadaveinlufkin [n=mbadavei@lfkn-adsl-dhcp-72-26-28-77.consolidated.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:45] is there anyone who can see this? [05:53] still c'ant get pass the mount point selection === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu [06:10] i can see that === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === Jester45 [i=Jester45@d18-244.rt-bras.wnvl.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:15] A 64 bit upgrade to a 32-bit patch for a 16-bit GUI shell running on top of an 8-bit operating system written for a 4-bit processor by a 2-bit company who cannot stand 1 bit of competition (but it's better than a Mac)! [06:16] thats a defanition of MS Windows XP 64bit version [06:18] yeah ... uhmmm, accept for the "but its better than a Mac" line [06:19] Jester45: i would rather run OS X than XP or Vista any day of the week and twice on sunday [06:19] i mean come on .... it comes with a bash shell, python, and ssh built in? who needs anything more? ..... and even if you do, it has java also :P [06:21] im copy/pasting fun things === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:24] lol [06:26] Installing 7.04 beta failed, said my BIOS date was too old. [06:26] Will the alternate install CD work? [06:27] honkytonkwillie: you can try ... but if it says something is wrong with the bios date you might just want to go into your bios and change the system date [06:28] The error message made it sound like a newer BIOS version was necessary, something from year 2000 or newer. [06:31] It may be missing LBA support. Hard to tell without the exact error message. [06:32] What's LBA? [06:34] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_block_addressing [06:37] Something new to look into. Thanks. === samarkand_ [n=samarkan@ool-44c7dded.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #xubuntu === samarkand_ [n=samarkan@ool-44c7dded.dyn.optonline.net] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] === PiTcReW [n=PiTcReW@c-76-100-32-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === snarfer [n=snarfer@unaffiliated/snarfer] has joined #xubuntu [06:57] Hello [06:57] I'm trying to install Xubuntu (again) [06:57] What is "safe graphics mode"? [06:58] Anyone? [07:01] It forces the use of the VESA driver. [07:03] Or, rather, it should. If it isn't working for you, please see bug 59618. [07:03] Malone bug 59618 in xorg ""Safe graphics mode" doesn't use VESA" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59618 [07:32] how do I fix my MBR if its damaged? [07:34] !grub [07:34] grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto [07:34] First link has info on recovering Grub. [07:34] no [07:34] not grub [07:34] I already reinstalled that [07:35] I think its the physical disk part [07:35] !disc [07:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about disc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [07:35] If the disk itself is damaged, get a new disk. [07:36] hrm === honkytonkwillie [n=honkyton@153-211-237-24.gci.net] has left #xubuntu [] === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.89.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has joined #xubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@ubuntu/member/thoreauputic] has left #xubuntu [] === icicled [n=joncfoo@adsl-209-30-163-245.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.89.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.222.242.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === gar1 [n=grcrosby@d216-232-173-250.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #xubuntu === ongardie [n=ongardie@66-100-35-21-static.dsl.oplink.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === TheSheep [i=sheep@atos.wmid.amu.edu.pl] has joined #xubuntu === cga [n=cga@213-140-6-101.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #xubuntu === gar1 [n=grcrosby@d216-232-173-250.bchsia.telus.net] has left #xubuntu [] === freeza [n=bub@24.27.1.159] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman [n=bobo@55.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === freeza [n=bub@24.27.1.159] has joined #xubuntu === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-87-78-35-115.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:24] Hello, I'm experiencing this problem with banshee and xfce: http://www.rafb.net/p/oQ5HKc64.html [10:40] Deviad install XMMS [10:41] or rather...what the heck are you trying to do? [10:41] Clicking on a radio link and listen to it? [10:41] :| [10:41] oh [10:41] well [10:42] something else is using that same lib [10:42] plus i don't think the radio is fully usable yet [10:43] I don't have that library and I ignore the package that contains it [10:43] plus on google I found no reference to it... [10:43] yeah [10:43] I have installed gnome-vfs2 but the library the program needs is not included in that package [10:43] its not fully developed yet [10:43] mmmmm how nice === txwikinger [n=txwiking@82-46-136-83.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@212-41-70-47.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Centos [n=skimo@adsl196-194-46-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === kj0ttdeig [n=twutt@83.84-48-86.nextgentel.com] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host81-158-186-104.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@55.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [11:38] is it possible to get the "mount devices" panel add-on to only show devices in /mnt ? === hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-60-32.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@212-41-102-242.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #xubuntu [11:58] Hi folks. [11:59] I just noticed that the Terminal's manual pages can be found in xfce4-terminal, yet xfce4-terminal is a discontinued project and is replaced by Terminal. Could the maintainers change this to reflect the current state? [12:03] huh? [12:05] http://www.os-cillation.com/index.php?id=42&L=5 is discontinued? [12:07] xfce4-terminal is just the name of the source package and binary package. Are you asking for it to be changed? [12:16] xfce4-terminal is the old name used by Xfce [12:19] no, wait, I see, I have a more recent version than the ubuntu package. [12:19] or xubuntu if you prefer. [12:19] ubuntu ships with 2.6, I use 2.7 [12:20] Maybe that the packagers will change the name for the next packages. === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === schlumpf [n=schlumpf@pd9e8d341.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === karmue [n=karli@e178173224.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #xubuntu === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #xubuntu === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has left #xubuntu ["me] === xoanan [n=xoanan@c-68-54-225-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === xoanan [n=xoanan@c-68-54-225-56.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has left #xubuntu [] === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p3160-ipbf1007marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #xubuntu === larson9999 [n=larson9@74-129-102-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:01] using gparted i copied my xubuntu partions from a 40gb hd to a 100bg drive and booted from the new drive. everything seems to work fine except the keyboard is very slow to respond and if you type two quickly, letters get dropped. wth? [02:02] errrr, rebooted again for fun and works fine. oh well. === larson9999 [n=larson9@74-129-102-59.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === joris_ [n=joris@217-19-28-124.dsl.cambrium.nl] has joined #xubuntu [02:09] Is there a guide to speed up xubuntu? Cause performance is real slow on my old AMD K6 2/300 box === schlumpf [n=schlumpf@pd9e8d341.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #xubuntu ["Verlassend"] === Aldoliel [n=aldoliel@i-195-137-21-239.freedom2surf.net] has joined #xubuntu === b_52Centos [n=skimo@adsl196-143-29-217-196.adsl196-9.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu [02:18] anyone here? [02:19] joris_: sort of [02:20] ah cool! i am looking for a guide to speed up xubuntu any ideas [02:20] ? [02:21] It works real nice but on some things it is real slow [02:22] joris_: firefox will be always slow [02:23] it is not only firefox also synaptic or quod libet etc [02:23] it just takes 7 or 8 sec to start [02:23] you could use fasterfox or what is it called? [02:24] swiftfox? [02:24] yeppa [02:24] that one [02:24] Not tried yet? But it is not only firefox [02:24] deactivate unnecessary services [02:25] so i hoped there was some guide to do this -> ive been looking but couldnt find it [02:26] thats why i came here [02:26] the only thing I can tell you is how to speed up Openoffice [02:26] would be nice as well [02:26] Synaptic is always slow, it's pretty resource intesive [02:27] joris_: you just need to alter the memory settings for it and it will be sped up quite a bit... how much ram have you got? [02:27] 3x 256mb [02:27] and a amd k6 300mhz cpu [02:29] where do i alter the memory settings? [02:30] Tools --> Options --> Memory [02:31] Why do I get the feeling that memory settings aren't going to help? [02:31] I set use for OOo to 100MB [02:31] and Membory per Object to 20MB [02:31] it will speed up OOo [02:31] cool will try now... [02:32] and you could enable systry quickstart [02:39] Seems to help a little bit. I tried swiftfox before on another box, but there was no better performance. Only some crashes [02:41] In terms of speed windows 98 was running ok, maybe xubuntu is just too advanced. Would another distro make more sense. For obvious reasons switching back to windows is not an option... [02:42] joris_: you could use damn small linux [02:44] ok i will look for it or maybe i give up on this old computer... === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu [02:45] I ran xubuntu on a 266mhz laptop - yes things are slow, but I only really used the laptop for irc and browsing the web, used opera as my browser (it's a bit faster than firefox, still takes a while to load up though) [02:46] I might also suggest doing a server install and then installing everything you need yourself, then you don't have the overhead of things like gdm [02:46] install xserver, xfce4, just the services and programs you need.. [02:48] ok good advice -> i think i will try this soon. Is it real necessary to do a fresh install or can i switch some other way? === vorian [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #xubuntu [".:porc::inca::dito::love:."] [02:49] it's rarely *necessary* to do a linux reinstall [02:50] you can pick off the services you don't want one by one, I just think it's easier to go the other way around and just install what you want ;) [02:50] joris_: in some cases it's just easier [02:52] ok true, but i all ready spent several hours to get things working like sound and corrupted fonts [02:57] well thanks for all the advice and i will try a server install later on === apocalypse [n=james@74-130-34-243.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu === alnokta [n=alnokta@wikimedia/alnokta] has joined #xubuntu === WaxyFresh [n=r00t@199-2-58-25.oxfordnetworks.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:36] how would i make xubuntu even more light weight? [03:36] i have 4 gigs 333mhx and 128 of ram [03:36] so im trying to conserve as much resources as possible === pr1de [i=pride4li@6.197.99-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #xubuntu === age6racer [n=age6race@host-87-74-27-85.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:54] Hi all, I'm having trouble with sound output on my laptop. I'm running Xubuntu Edgy (the sound problem exists in all media players but I use XMMS) and my soundcard is an ESS ES1978 (MAESTRO 2E) The sound is garbled and sounds a little like when you play an old warped cassette tape. Any ideas? [03:56] I'm running a low spec system so I guess it could be to do with available virtual memory or buffer sizes? The sound gets much worse when I start using other apps or move windows around the screen. === Mordicus [n=chatzill@APuteaux-154-1-42-193.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [03:58] hello$* [03:59] help :s [04:00] anybody ? === Deviad [n=Deviad__@81-208-83-249.fastres.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:01] !ask [04:01] Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :) [04:01] ok :) [04:01] I updated Xubuntu and now it can't reboot :s [04:02] here is the error message : [04:04] check root = bootarg cat /proc/cmdline [04:04] or missing modules, devices : cat /proc/modules ls/dev [04:04] alert /dev/disk/by-uuid/69d7........................ [04:04] busybox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.1.3-3ubuntu3) Built in Shell (ash) [04:04] /bin/sh : can't access tty; job control turned off [04:05] (initramfs) [04:05] and next nothing more happens [04:08] Do you get anything different from the recovery option? [04:08] how to access recovery options ? [04:09] at the grub menu shortly after switching the machine on [04:10] I get the same error when booting in recovery mode [04:10] it stops at : [04:10] /bin/sh : can't access tty; job control turned off [04:10] (initramfs) [04:10] with the same error messages as above [04:13] full error message is : [04:13] ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/69d7..........(long number)...... doe not exist. Dropping to a shell! [04:16] any idea ? :s === WaxyFresh [n=r00t@199-2-58-25.oxfordnetworks.net] has left #xubuntu [] [04:17] OK, looks like it can't find your root partition, if you boot up in a live CD and ensure your menu.lst points to the right place. [04:18] huh... so I should boot using the live CD ? [04:18] yes [04:19] next, how can I ensure menu.1st is at the right place ? (I'm a linux newbie) [04:21] I booted with the liveCD but I don't know what to do next :s [04:22] menu.lst will be in boot/grub on your root partition, there is a line in it '## ## Start Default options ##' [04:22] a little bellow that willbe a line '# kopt=root=...' [04:24] from the liveCD boot menu, how to access the command line ? may I use "Install a command-line system" ? [04:25] No, go for the first one, I think it's 'use or install'? [04:25] You can open a terminal once it boots up. [04:26] I do not have "use or install", but just "install in text mode" or "install in OEM mode".... there is also a "rescue a broken system" option [04:26] That sounds like an alternative cd rather than a live CD [04:27] you're right ! checking for another CD !!! [04:27] the rescue a broken system ought to do [04:31] I am downloading a liveCD to reinstall... === christof [n=christor@ANancy-256-1-156-230.w90-33.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [04:36] I think it is fixble, but a reinstall might be easier if you've got all your data backed up. === drowfx [n=matthias@blankertz.org] has joined #xubuntu === lypsis [n=lypsis@pd9e1c42c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === drowfx [n=matthias@blankertz.org] has joined #xubuntu === Grey_Loki [n=Loki@host86-136-73-83.range86-136.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #xubuntu === ron_o [n=ron@12-210-178-111.client.mchsi.com] has joined #xubuntu === xjonex [n=jone@dsl-roigw1-fe8ede00-5.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu === keb [n=keb@pdpc/supporter/active/keb] has joined #xubuntu === Carsten_ [i=Carsten@x421aa.wh10.tu-dresden.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:08] !irc [06:08] irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines === Carsten_ [i=Carsten@x421aa.wh10.tu-dresden.de] has left #xubuntu [] [06:13] what do i need avahi-daemon for? the xubuntu desktop depends on it but i don't have any printers to share === Shafto [n=chris@cpc2-oldh6-0-0-cust827.manc.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu === Shafto [n=chris@cpc2-oldh6-0-0-cust827.manc.cable.ntl.com] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === esc_on_g1ml [n=esc@i59F738FA.versanet.de] has joined #xubuntu === michaelpo [n=presario@124.82.20.38] has joined #xubuntu === Dragoonboy [n=jry@CPE-76-177-73-4.natcky.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Nick^69 [n=Nick^69@S0106000103c53368.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:59] hi all === Nick^69 [n=Nick^69@S0106000103c53368.ed.shawcable.net] has left #xubuntu [] === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:14] keb: It's not just for printers - it's a generic Zeroconf service discovery daemon. [07:14] If you don't need it, though, you can just disable it. [07:15] ok. what services does it discover that i don't know about [07:15] or more to the point, what services won't work without it [07:15] keb: macintosh ad hoc networks :) [07:16] hiho [07:16] ok i'm ununstalling it [07:16] hyper_ch: hello there young lad [07:16] thanks [07:16] TheSheep: *smile* I wrote another small little tutorial :) something I struggled with the last two days :) [07:17] hyper_ch: do tell [07:17] TheSheep: how to encrypt a disk in feisty with dm-crypt and luks :) [07:17] hyper_ch: oh, wow, I've been meaning to investigate that myself someday [07:18] TheSheep: it's not yet published with a perm link but have a look : http://www.howtoforge.com/node/2070 [07:18] also submitted it to the tutorials section on ubuntuforums.org :) but there it'll take a little longer [07:19] have a look :) comments are welcomed :) === doug1 [n=dougz@pool-70-105-43-155.rich.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:21] Two successive burn errors (per K3B verify of written data) on Xubuntu Feisty Beta Alternate Install. Verified the .iso against the MD5SUMS file before burn. [07:21] Both CDs also failed Xubuntu's verify CD function. "Integrity test failed. The .pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-12-generic_2.6.20.3-12.11_i386.deb file failes the MD5..." [07:21] Didn't record other CD's error, but believe it failed on same file. [07:21] Never had burn errors on this DVD-RW or the first 70 discs from this spindle of CD-R discs. [07:23] doug1: tried to burn slower? === andrewa2 [n=andrew@adsl-68-248-73-101.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:24] Let K3B pick speed automatically, as usual. Never had problem with any other distro (including Ubuntu Feisty Alphas) or music disks. Only Xubuntu Feisty. [07:26] hyper_ch: I'd remove the parts you're not sure form the 'legal considerations' entirely [07:26] sure about? [07:27] what do you mean where I'm not sure about? [07:28] TheSheep: I know the laws here in Switzerland (that's what I've been studying the last 5 years) and I know the ECHR.... however in the US a court can order you to reveal passwords and you can expect negative consequences if you don't :) === xjonex [n=jone@dsl-roigw1-fe8ede00-5.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #xubuntu [07:29] and why does dd if=/dev/urandom take so long? === Owdgit [n=ron@88-110-188-98.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #xubuntu [07:33] TheSheep: I'll rephrase a few things === doug1 [n=dougz@pool-70-105-43-155.rich.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] === kj0ttdeig [n=twutt@83.84-48-86.nextgentel.com] has joined #xubuntu === Spencer [n=Weiss@cpe-76-190-154-175.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === pzler [n=wouter@cp106655-a.roose1.nb.home.nl] has joined #xubuntu === txwikinger [n=txwiking@82-46-136-83.cable.ubr01.smal.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [07:46] TheSheep: I did now rephrase the legal stuff :) [07:47] i hate legal stuff === Lsi [n=lassi@host-212-149-206-76.kpylaajakaista.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:49] Hi [07:50] on xubuntu my screen saver turn on no matter if I'm active or not. [07:50] Is there a fix for thsi? [07:50] *this [07:53] keb: legal stuff gives me $$$ [07:53] ok its not so bad then [07:54] i just wish everyone would share freely [07:54] freely share what? [07:55] everything online [07:55] Oi. I'm wondering what's that small but somewhat annoying voice anytime I do anything. The more CPU is under siege, the more that sound.. mm.. sounds.. Voice is coming from soundcard and I have seen, would I say heard, it happening only on xfce-environment. Any clues wherefrom I could switch it off? [07:55] keb: download the presentation at the end of this site: http://www.mindjack.com/feature/piracy051305.html [07:55] thanks [07:56] Lsi: no clue === Xtreem [n=Xtreem@rummers.force9.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [07:57] Spencer: it doesn't happen to me [07:57] Lsi did you try running alsamixer in a terminal, maybe one of the audio devices needs muting [07:57] ok [07:57] maybe, I did but didn't find anything useful. [07:58] hyper_ch: sorry, I'm behind a really crappy wireless network [07:58] hyper_ch: I keep getting disconnected :( [07:58] TheSheep: no problem :) [07:58] TheSheep: oh, that is a problem - for you === corevette_ [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-192-230.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === corevette_ [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-192-230.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === rexbinary [n=rexbinar@unaffiliated/rexbinary] has joined #xubuntu === clarklinux [n=clark@ip72-195-129-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === corevette_ [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-192-230.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:01] keb: oh, I checked if I had missed something and by muting my mic boost it went off.. :) [08:01] heh [08:02] does that mean your mic is always on? [08:03] Always recording something [08:11] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683 [08:11] oops [08:11] sorry, disregard that === vorian_ [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has joined #xubuntu === corevette_ [n=corevett@adsl-75-35-192-230.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:12] hi: i'm running xubuntu edgy on a powerbook g3 laptop. I'm tring to get my sonnets aria extreme card working on it, but I don't know how. I have network manager installed but it only recognizes a wired connection. can anybody help me? === vorian_ [n=steve@ubuntu/member/Vorian] has left #xubuntu [".:porc::inca::dito::love:."] === czer323 [i=czer323@cpe-71-66-230-94.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === aussieman [n=bobo@55.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === luzi [n=luzi@217-162-177-40.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #xubuntu [08:29] clarklinux does lspci show the card ? === crdlb [n=crdlb@pool-141-152-139-139.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === freeza [n=bub@24.27.1.159] has joined #xubuntu === clarklinux [n=clark@ip72-195-129-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [08:49] hi: im trying to get my sonnets aria extreme wifi card to work on my powerbook g3 laptop running xubuntu edgy. Im following the instructions on ubuntus wifidocs, and Im up to the part where I have to plug in my wifi card and test the connection. however, whenever I put my wifi card into the pc card slot, every program or process that is network related hangs up. for instance, network manager exits and iwconfig hangs up interminabl === magic_ninja [n=asdfsdf@ip68-103-23-222.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:00] What is the proper way to install perl modules for the entire system using CPAN? [09:02] can anybody help me with my wifi card? === luzi [n=luzi@217-162-177-40.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #xubuntu [] [09:06] hey, i keep getting an error when i try to burn with k3b, its "unable to fixate disk" [09:06] using k3b with ubuntu edgy 6.10 [09:11] !raw [09:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about raw - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [09:11] !fixate [09:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about fixate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [09:16] clarklinux: http://tinyurl.com/2wk6ss [09:17] what does unable to fixate disk mean [09:18] when burning an ISO in k3b [09:18] i can't even find ne google stuff on this error === dougz [n=dougz@pool-70-105-43-155.rich.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Spencer [n=Weiss@cpe-76-190-154-175.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === andrewa2 [n=andrew@adsl-66-72-149-38.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu === chrisw [n=crdlb@pool-151-199-148-165.norf.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:22] Thank you! Earlier, hyper_ch suggested that I could solve my CD integrity issue by burning more slowly. That worked -- both K3B and Xubuntu verified the CD as correct. However, I am now failing at the "Select and Install Software" step (Feisty alternate install beta) and there doesn't appear to be any diagnostic info. Suggestions? [09:23] lol, its a rough one [09:23] dougz: I tend to think the feisty alternate install is still buggy (at least herd5 was when it came to the partitioner) - for feisty I recommend using the desktop cd [09:23] for edgy the alternate [09:26] hyper_ch Thank you. I've had lots of issues with the desktop installers in Dapper and came to distrust them. Also, I need to apply a .deb driver update due to a 3dfx bug introduced in Dapper and still not fixed in the Feisty alphas. Will look into the desktop installer. [09:26] dougz: or get a server install and then fetch xubuntu-desktop from the online repositories :) [09:27] dougz: However desktop cd is more confortable (if it works) than the server one [09:27] Hi [09:27] my ethernet controller doesn't seem to have default drivers [09:27] how can I get drivers for my ethernet port [09:27] whats your ethernet driver [09:27] grr [09:28] ur card [09:28] I'm running an iMac 233 MHz [09:28] hyper_ch: Will server install plus xubuntu-desktop (from Feisty repositories) give the same result as a Feisty beta install? [09:29] dougz: no, it will not add all the default applications [09:29] !cdrecord [09:29] Sorry, I don't know anything about cdrecord - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [09:29] !burn [09:29] CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [09:29] Thank you! [09:30] dougz: but you can manually install them afterwards :) === dougz [n=dougz@pool-70-105-43-155.rich.east.verizon.net] has left #xubuntu [] [09:34] debian etch out as stable now :) === bigfuzzyjesus [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu === v3nkat3sh [n=venk@210.211.183.191] has joined #xubuntu === Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman [n=bobo@55.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === _aussieman- [n=bobo@55.Red-83-32-190.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === clarklinux [n=clark@ip72-195-129-90.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:45] !restricted [09:45] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats === Maximilian1st [n=maximili@212-41-70-47.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #xubuntu [09:47] can someone please help me with my wireless network card? [09:47] it freezes up the computer [09:47] when i plug it in [09:49] usb card? [09:50] pc-card [09:50] i found out more specifically what it's doing [09:50] it won't let me use sudo or su [09:50] clarklinux, did you try inserting other pc cards? [09:50] when I try to it just hangs up === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-155-201.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [09:51] maximilian1st: nope, I dont have any other pc cards to try === andrewa2 [n=andrew@adsl-66-72-149-38.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has left #xubuntu [] [09:51] it shouldn't freeze the computer... hmmm. [09:52] Does it freeze when you type sudo or just after inserting it? [09:52] after sudo [09:52] the big problem is taht I can't do anything now with configureation [09:52] i want to do modprobe bcm43xx === maxamillion [n=adam@r74-192-178-37.htvlcmta01.hnvitx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu [09:52] then iwconfig [09:52] I'm following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsAriaextreme [09:52] What if you sudo su and then insert your card? [09:53] I tried it...then I just can't do anything from sudo [09:53] or su [09:53] even though I'm in it [09:53] also, when I insert the card, network manager exits (crashes?) but it is still listed as a process run by root [09:54] I could be wrong but you don't need to "sudo" anything once you done sudo su. [09:54] haven't tried the command sudo su [09:54] lemme try [09:54] The point of doing sudo is to get root priviledge. [09:54] righjt [09:55] By doing sudo su you log yourself as root [09:55] So you don't need to sudo anything anymore. [09:55] its curious why it would do that [09:55] i'm restarting the laptop right now to try that [10:00] clarklinux, Is your laptop still booting? [10:00] nope [10:01] its up now...so I did sudo su, then plugged in the card, now I'm going to try modprobe + iwconfig [10:02] oaky [10:02] modprobe worked [10:02] iwconifg didn't [10:02] it's hung on it === Chil1 [n=scott-li@pool-70-104-101-111.chi.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [10:02] Hello [10:02] And is the laptop frozen? [10:03] no the laptop isn't [10:03] but nothing is happening [10:03] And outside? [10:03] iwconfig is not turning anything up [10:03] and ifconfig? [10:03] I'm completely new to Ubuntu altogether, but I've really been wanting to try it for a while...any tips for someone who knows nothing about it? [10:03] whats ifconfig [10:04] Chil1, Read the manual. That's a very good tip and you owe me one for it. [10:04] Another question, automatix or easyubuntu? [10:04] I don't use them... [10:05] try one. [10:05] maximilian1st: su says: su: Authentication failure [10:05] but you are already root. [10:05] what do you want to su to? [10:05] had to start a new terminal [10:05] iwconfig hung up [10:05] well [10:05]