[01:32] <AlexLatchford> !nvu
[01:32] <ubotu> nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but ping tonyyarusso to inquire about packages.  See also !html.
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[02:06] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: im not here but that is no longer supported. thats why its not in feisty composer/kompozer/compozer is the replacment. off to eat dinner
[02:07] <AlexLatchford> hmm okay
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[11:17] <gnomefreak> ok morning
[11:23] <ajmitch> hi
[11:27] <gnomefreak> asac: whats the chances if i ask what is going on with this bug "upstream" i get an answer? last reply to bug was 2006-08-09?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> although i dont see this getting fixed in dapper anyway, it doesnt seem like its security related
[11:57] <gnomefreak> what file in debian dir. controls what you see when you click help>about?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> looking to change "Build identifier" as its debian atm
[12:39] <gnomefreak> ok new email for the testing packages (for questions, requests, bugs, and whatever else) mozilla.testing@gmail.com
[12:47] <asac> gnomefreak: good
[12:47] <asac> which bug upstream?
[12:48] <asac> for the debian dir it completely depends on how the package implements things
[12:48] <asac> which package are you interested in?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> upstream bug malone https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278383
[12:58] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 278383 in MailNews: Movemail "Get All New Messages doesn't work with movemail account" [Normal,New] 
[12:59] <gnomefreak> i was looking to change build id for iceape (its debian atm) im sure bugs will file in on that
[01:00] <gnomefreak> and i set up a testing email for the fx3 iceape packages (we need place for bugs to go)
[01:05] <gnomefreak> was trying to get things started before doctors appointment that i need to start getting ready for soon
[01:12] <gnomefreak> the bug above new can be changed to old as hell cant it ;)
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ok time for me to get ready to leave. I posted testing(help wanted) on planet.ubuntu.com so for the time being its there.
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[01:46] <asac> movemail is broken
[01:46] <asac> per-definition
[01:47] <asac> no-questions-to-ask
[01:47] <IdleOne> ok so I just installed the mozilla-browser package and now I cant get it to start up
[01:47] <asac> IdleOne: wherefrom?
[01:48] <asac> what version of mozilla-browser?
[01:48] <asac> iceape?
[01:48] <IdleOne> asac,yeah
[01:48] <IdleOne> but hold on a sec
[01:49] <asac> start iceape :)
[01:49] <asac> don't install mozilla-browser
[01:49] <asac> just iceape
[01:49] <IdleOne> didnt realise it changed name lol
[01:49] <asac> :)
[01:49] <asac> mozilla-browser is just a transition package
[01:49] <asac> it contains nothing
[01:49] <IdleOne> Im glad it saved all my bookmarks
[01:49] <asac> its just that you get a smooth upgrade path if you have used now abandoned mozilla-suite
[01:49] <asac> have fun
[01:52] <IdleOne> ok why do I have IceApe Navigator and Iceape Suite in my Applications menu?
[01:52] <IdleOne> if they both startup the browser
[01:53] <IdleOne> upside is iceape startsup and loads pages alot faster 
[02:27] <hjmf> launchpad
[02:28] <hjmf> launchpad seems to be down
[02:34] <poningru> wfm
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[03:03] <hjmf> yes, seems it is back
[03:06] <boredandblogging> hello, I just saw gnomefreak's post about needing posters, wondering if I can help out
[03:06] <boredandblogging> s/posters/testers
[03:15] <asac> sure
[03:15] <asac> add the apt lines and use the applications :)
[03:16] <IdleOne> asac, I didnt see any repos to add to sources.list. I d/l'ed the debs and install that way
[03:16] <asac> IdleOne: you can set what starts as default
[03:16] <asac> so Iceape suite does not always bring up browser
[03:16] <asac> depends on your settings
[03:16] <asac> ah
[03:16] <asac> wait a sec
[03:16] <boredandblogging> fair enough, should I be trying out the mozilla*.deb or the iceape*.deb?
[03:16] <IdleOne> iceape
[03:16] <asac> deb http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main
[03:17] <asac> deb-src http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com/mozilla-testing feisty main
[03:17] <IdleOne> mozilla is just a meta package
[03:17] <asac> boredandblogging: mozilla*deb contain nothing
[03:17] <asac> just transitional packages
[03:17] <asac> if you install mozilla you will get iceape
[03:17] <asac> so just use iceape
[03:17] <boredandblogging> got it
[03:17] <IdleOne> asac, ty will add to sources
[03:17] <asac> hope they are still the same
[03:17] <asac> gnomefreak: why haven't you mentioned the sources in your mail?
[03:19] <boredandblogging> and bug reports go to mozilla.test@gmail.com, not launchpad?
[03:19] <asac> if you have problems send mail to mozillateam mailing list
[03:19] <asac> i will tell gnomefreak to use that address instead
[03:20] <boredandblogging> ok, thanks for the help
[03:20] <asac> ther are firefox-trunk packages as well :)
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[03:21] <boredandblogging> ahh, I see those
[03:21] <asac> trunk package are the ones to check if they are doing well
[03:21] <asac> is current development head
[03:21] <asac> might be broken the day or the other
[03:21] <asac> though
[04:58] <gnomefreak> i forgot about sources :(
[04:58] <gnomefreak> asac: ok good we can use our mailing list i didnt know if you were on that list.
[05:00] <gnomefreak> i didnt give repos because i didnt want everyone having it just to play with it yet
[05:00] <gnomefreak> want to make sure they are "somewhat stable" before "everyone" uses them
[05:05] <boredandblogging> i've started playing it, seems fine so far
[05:08] <gnomefreak> its fixed sent repos and new place for bugs
[05:09] <gnomefreak> ut oh
[05:23] <gnomefreak> one thing im looking for outside of normal bugs is places ubuntu should be used (example: Help>About it says debian 1.1.1-4.mt1) that on eis already known
[05:29] <gnomefreak> asac: you here?
[05:34] <gnomefreak> asac: when you get back please review bug 103848 (IMHO what should happen because others use it is not a reason to do it and we dont support 3rd party anything) so what difference does it make if it returns linux or gnu...
[05:34] <ubotu> Malone bug 103848 in firefox "OS_ARCH!=Linux " [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103848
[05:35] <gnomefreak> hint f OS_TARGET is not specified, it defaults to $(OS_ARCH), i.e., no
[05:35] <gnomefreak> 943 # cross-compilation.
[05:35] <gnomefreak> 944 #
[05:35] <gnomefreak> s/f/If
[05:40] <gnomefreak> ok anything i need to do besides lay down and think about next meeting? doc gave me muscle relaxers due to 3 week headache if needed ping me ill read away notes when i return.
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ok anything i need to do besides lay down and think about next meeting? doc gave me muscle relaxers due to 3 week headache if needed ping me ill read away notes when i return.  Do me a favour and test the iceape mail and composer and crap. I havent had time to play with it too much yet. Anyway thank you again for testing
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[07:27] <jwendell> Hi. Is gnome-vfs support on 'firefox-gnome-support' package broken?
[07:28] <jwendell> i can't browse any smb or ssh filesystem in firefox (save or open)
[07:36] <jwendell> asac?
[07:57] <asac> what?
[07:57] <asac> ah
[07:57] <asac> i think i have a patch for that
[07:57] <asac> you wanna try?
[07:57] <asac> jwendell: ^^^
[07:58] <jwendell> asac, sure i want
[08:01] <asac> you can build packages?
[08:07] <jwendell> asac, yep, but i'd love if you have i386 binaries (i have to wait 1 hour to build firefox on my machine)
[08:09] <asac> no have amd64 only ... and actually have no package prebuild at hand
[08:10] <asac> i upload patch
[08:13] <asac> jwendell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/patch-filepicker-remote.patch
[08:13] <asac> let me know if that works. Maybe it can go to feisty
[08:14] <asac> but i don't think so
[08:14] <asac> but i would ask ;)
[08:14] <asac> if it doesn't work, then i have no idea
[08:23] <jwendell> asac, is it work for you?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> what file am i patching to test?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> and the patch command if you have it handy to make things fast.
[08:47] <jwendell> 15:47, debuild started
[08:48] <gnomefreak> jwendell: 386?
[08:48] <jwendell> gnomefreak, yep
[08:48] <gnomefreak> k
[08:48] <jwendell> gnomefreak, why?
[08:48] <gnomefreak> because i thought you said you didnt have 386
[08:48] <gnomefreak> oh no you just had to wait sorry
[08:49] <jwendell> gnomefreak, no, i *only* have i386
[08:49] <jwendell> :)
[08:49] <gnomefreak> me too
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[08:58] <feistyman> hello
[08:58] <gnomefreak> ok open prefferences and look for clean cache saved files ,..... ect
[08:58] <gnomefreak> edit>prefferences
[08:58] <feistyman> thanks
[08:59] <feistyman> In preferences, where is "clean cache saved files" I can't seem to find it
[08:59] <poningru> its under privacy
[08:59] <gnomefreak> feistyman: no need go to tools and click clean private data
[08:59] <poningru> right
[08:59] <poningru> private data
[08:59] <gnomefreak> or ctrl+shift+delete
[09:00] <feistyman> should I "clear now"?
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[09:00] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:00] <gnomefreak> feistyman: do you remember what updates you did before this stopped working?
[09:00] <feistyman> ok, I did it
[09:01] <feistyman> I do the updates when it tells me to, usually every day
[09:01] <gnomefreak> give me a link you are trying to download from
[09:02] <feistyman> I'm trying to download any image I see on a web page
[09:03] <gnomefreak> you dont get the download dialog box?
[09:03] <feistyman> This is so weird. It's never done this before. I even tried uninstaling and reinstalling firefox, but it came back exactly the same.
[09:04] <gnomefreak> feistyman: do you  have the download extention by chance?
[09:04] <feistyman> I do the get the box. It asks me what i want to do from a number of choices. If I say "save image as" , it lets me do it, but then nothing is there.
[09:05] <gnomefreak> feistyman: does it work running it in safe mode?
[09:05] <feistyman> gnomefreak, I download ephiphany browser to see if that would save images. It did. But not Firefox
[09:05] <gnomefreak> feistyman: makes me think its an extention you added to firefox
[09:06] <gnomefreak> did you add any prior to this issue?
[09:06] <poningru> feistyman: quick method of checking if its an extension etc is to try a new profile
[09:06] <poningru> !profile folder
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about profile folder - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <poningru> ...
[09:06] <gnomefreak> poningru: running in safe mode does that
[09:06] <feistyman> Maybe you're right. let me check something.
[09:07] <gnomefreak> safe-mode -- no loading of extensions
[09:07] <gnomefreak> s/--/==
[09:07] <feistyman> I think I need to restart firefox to check.
[09:07] <gnomefreak> feistyman: yep
[09:07] <poningru> well right but it still doesnt protect against stupid crap like user.js etc.
[09:07] <feistyman> Can I get back to you then. To this channel?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> asac: patch -p1 <what/apth> <~/patch>
[09:08] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:08] <feistyman> ok. hang on. Thanks, by the way
[09:08] <gnomefreak> get a real cleint and we would have this problem :(
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[09:09] <feistyman> that did it.
[09:09] <feistyman> It works now
[09:09] <gnomefreak> there i remembered the patch command now im awake
[09:09] <gnomefreak> feistyman: dont use that extenstion ;) (what was it)
[09:09] <feistyman> gnomefreak, you were right about the add on
[09:10] <gnomefreak> what one so i know for next time
[09:10] <feistyman> It was called "media pirate". To download videos and such.
[09:10] <feistyman> They should remove it from the add on list, don't you think
[09:10] <feistyman> video downloader is safe, and much better
[09:10] <gnomefreak> feistyman: it is up to them.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> i cant make the call on what mozilla does
[09:11] <feistyman> Anyway, thanks for your help.
[09:11] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:11] <feistyman> I've got one more thing I'm tempted to ask you
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ask
[09:11] <gnomefreak> if mozilla related
[09:12] <feistyman> No, it's Ubuntu related. It has to do with my internet not starting up automatically when I boot up Ubuntu. I have to manually click the double-monitor icon to make internet work (att dsl)
[09:13] <gnomefreak> feistyman: join #ubuntu+1 for that
[09:13] <feistyman> Yeah, ok. Thanks so much for your help. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it, and you!
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[09:14] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:56] <asac> jwendell: i have no idea ... i just coded it because if found it reasonable ... would be great if you can confirm.
[09:57] <jwendell> asac, ok, it's still compiling...
[09:57] <gnomefreak> can test right now i just need the path to put the patch :)
[09:57] <jwendell> 16:57, debuild finished
[09:57] <jwendell> 1:10h compiling :)
[10:01] <asac> gnomefreak: no path ... firefox = apply
[10:01] <asac> jwendell: what system spec?
[10:02] <jwendell> asac, laptop celeron 1.5Ghz, 512MB ram
[10:03] <asac> thats decent then :)
[10:03] <asac> i mean a good time for your system ;)
[10:04] <gnomefreak> asac: it has to be built in (is that what you mean by firefox = apply?)
[10:05] <asac> if you have a patch to firefox you need to apply it
[10:05] <asac> unless you want to use trunk
[10:05] <asac> there you can put it debian/patches
[10:05] <asac> and add name to debian/patches/series
[10:05] <asac> otherwise, i misunderstood what you asked :/
[10:05] <gnomefreak> asac: i have your patch where do i add it locally to test
[10:06] <gnomefreak> faster than building it than testing it
[10:06] <asac> gnomefreak: as i said you have to apply it against firefox by hand ... then build
[10:07] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[10:07] <gnomefreak> any number will do (assuming patching would use 20_patch_filepicker
[10:08] <jwendell> asac, it did not work... where is it supposed to work? on save? open?
[10:08] <gnomefreak> on changing themes if i had to guess
[10:08] <asac> i have no idea ... its what api doc of gtk file picker says
[10:08] <asac> are you on gnome?
[10:09] <asac> where do you see those mounts in other applications?
[10:16] <gnomefreak> your asking jwendell?
[10:20] <asac> yes
[10:20] <asac> :)
[10:20] <asac> as you haven't finished your build most likely :)
[10:20] <gnomefreak> thought so :)
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[10:21] <gnomefreak> the path in the patch i doubt ill find :)
[10:24] <jwendell> asac, i'd guess you have patched the wrong function
[10:24] <gnomefreak> youtube is so stupid :( they put anything on there
[10:25] <asac> jwendell: you sure?
[10:26] <jwendell> asac, 'confirm_overwrite_file' is the name of the function you patched...
[10:26] <asac> which one is right?
[10:26] <asac> you found ;) ?
[10:26] <asac> yeah ... name sounds wierd :)
[10:26] <asac> what did i do?
[10:26] <jwendell> asac, no, i don't know anything from firefox
[10:27] <asac> yeah :)
[10:27] <asac> move it a few lines down
[10:27] <asac> to ::Show
[10:27] <asac> you see it?
[10:28] <asac> actually wait a second :)
[10:28] <asac> you can backout the patch for now
[10:28] <asac> here it comes in a minute
[10:29] <asac> jwendell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~asac/patch-filepicker-remote.2.patch
[10:29] <asac> that should cure you
[10:29] <asac> if it works
[10:30] <asac> the other is really nonesense :)
[10:30] <asac> thanks for finding this ;)
[10:30] <asac> gnomefreak: same for your build :)
[10:31] <gnomefreak> k
[10:31] <gnomefreak> any reason why there is a stray { at the end?
[10:32] <asac> of course :)
[10:32] <gnomefreak> if (parent_widget && parent_widget->group) {
[10:32] <gnomefreak> k
[10:32] <asac> its not garbage if you ask that
[10:32] <asac> its in the code ... so the diff shows it in context
[10:32] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[10:33] <asac> if you look close enough at the patch you should understand what it means
[10:33] <gnomefreak> widget/src/gtk2/nsFilePicker.cpp is what i want to replace?
[10:33] <asac> maybe not the programming part, but definitly, how the file is changed
[10:33] <asac> you have unapply the old patch if you want
[10:33] <gnomefreak> i see the changes
[10:33] <asac> you can edit it then
[10:34] <asac> if you are brave ;)
[10:34] <gnomefreak> "local-only", FALSE, was added
[10:34] <asac> yeah ;)
[10:34] <asac> and backouot the old changes
[10:34] <asac> e.g. look at old patch
[10:34] <asac> and revert it in mind
[10:34] <gnomefreak> shouldnt be too hard to edit it by hand
[10:35] <asac> yeah
[10:35] <jwendell> asac, unfortunately i don't have time to compile it again
[10:35] <asac> jwendell: you don't need a full
[10:35] <gnomefreak> if i see the surrounding parts
[10:35] <asac> recompile
[10:35] <jwendell> asac, just later at home or tomorrow
[10:35] <gnomefreak> jwendell: ill work on it in a bit ;)
[10:36] <jwendell> gnomefreak, thanks, can you (or asac) drop me a mail if it work?
[10:36] <jwendell> wendell _at_ ubuntu.com
[10:36] <gnomefreak> yep
[10:37] <gnomefreak> 3 minutes left on apt-get source
[10:49] <gnomefreak> found it just have to figure out how to keep it in style its in
[10:49] <gnomefreak> ha
[10:52] <gnomefreak> its building
[10:57] <gnomefreak> asac: let me know when you get time for tb 2 build errors
[11:05] <gnomefreak> be back when the sun is out of my eyes :(
[11:05] <gnomefreak> or this finishes whatever is first noticed
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[11:40] <AlexLatchford> trying to get Joost Beta to work through WINE with no success
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[12:11] <gnomefreak> wish they would have given me that file locally :( i think it saves time and work to test locally before building