| superm1 | majoridiot, have you noticed anything lately with regard to mysql-server not starting up during package installation? | 12:34 |
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| majoridiot | no | 12:35 |
| superm1 | well what i'm seeing is that it stops, starts, and then stops again | 12:35 |
| superm1 | its really weird | 12:35 |
| majoridiot | has started fine on every install i've done lately... probably 30+ total. | 12:35 |
| superm1 | probably directly related to some of my packaging changes then | 12:35 |
| superm1 | i'll see | 12:35 |
| superm1 | yup oops. i put the dependency of mysql-server at the end, not the beginning | 12:39 |
| superm1 | i didn't realize that actually matterd :) | 12:39 |
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| superm1 | majoridiot, okay very nice. the package appears to work correctly now with these changes | 01:30 |
| superm1 | if nothing is installed | 01:30 |
| majoridiot | :) | 01:30 |
| superm1 | it will give you two popups | 01:31 |
| superm1 | one saying that you need to run mythtv-setup when done | 01:31 |
| superm1 | and the other telling your the mysql password for "mythtv" | 01:31 |
| superm1 | keescook, are you around today, or taking the day off for easter? | 01:31 |
| majoridiot | very nice | 01:31 |
| majoridiot | lemme know when you want me to test it | 01:31 |
| superm1 | hopefully later tonite. i cant do a full binary build in a pbuilder because my mirror that i use is in the process of syncing to us.archive.ubuntu.com | 01:32 |
| superm1 | so its missing build deps | 01:32 |
| majoridiot | k | 01:32 |
| superm1 | i've just been extracting the debs and modifying DEBIAN/control | 01:32 |
| superm1 | in the case that someone has already changed the mysql root password, a simple "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common" will let them put in the correct info | 01:34 |
| superm1 | er: in the case that someone has already changed the mysql root password, a simple "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database" will let them put in the correct info | 01:35 |
| majoridiot | excellent. near idiot-proof. | 01:36 |
| superm1 | afaik: completely idiot proof | 01:36 |
| majoridiot | we'll see... | 01:36 |
| majoridiot | LOL | 01:36 |
| superm1 | good point.... | 01:37 |
| superm1 | for packages after feisty is released i'd like to get something setup that will handle securing the root password during install though | 01:38 |
| majoridiot | logical next step, yes. | 01:38 |
| superm1 | okay there is only one other bug then that i wanted to kill before feisty release if possible | 01:39 |
| superm1 | having ALSA be the default | 01:40 |
| superm1 | rather than OSS | 01:40 |
| majoridiot | that would be awesome. it is a pain. | 01:40 |
| majoridiot | small, niggling... but a pain. | 01:40 |
| superm1 | i looked at the source briefly | 01:40 |
| superm1 | and cant seem to identify how it is made defualt | 01:40 |
| majoridiot | is it done source-level or is it a default entry in mythconverg? | 01:42 |
| superm1 | i would have thought source level, because every new machine gets it | 01:43 |
| superm1 | but then again i havent looked at the default entries in mythconverg | 01:43 |
| === majoridiot is thinking mythconverg | ||
| majoridiot | dunno why... just a feeling. | 01:43 |
| superm1 | okay....... i'll check | 01:43 |
| superm1 | well then again, we dont setup the database tables by a SQL file | 01:44 |
| superm1 | so it cant be mythconverg directly | 01:44 |
| superm1 | we only do a username and create the mythconverg database | 01:44 |
| superm1 | mythbackend and mythfrontend create and modify all subtables | 01:45 |
| majoridiot | hm. | 01:45 |
| superm1 | well i think i might have identified how to do it | 02:04 |
| superm1 | if only i could do a test build and make sure :) | 02:04 |
| majoridiot | i was just looking at globalsettings.cpp | 02:05 |
| superm1 | thats where i made the two changes | 02:09 |
| superm1 | i think meerly adding two lines | 02:09 |
| superm1 | for selection types for alsa before it parses /dev | 02:10 |
| superm1 | should do it | 02:10 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, okay the ALSA changes work | 03:24 |
| superm1 | wonderful :) | 03:24 |
| majoridiot | :D | 03:25 |
| superm1 | i got all my bugs that i had set as my own priority fixed | 03:25 |
| majoridiot | great job! | 03:25 |
| superm1 | i'm gonna go jump in the shower and then run to campus. i'll upload these once i get there and you can give them a spin if you like | 03:25 |
| majoridiot | k | 03:26 |
| superm1 | any pages you'd particularly like me to look over tonite? | 03:26 |
| superm1 | the rest of the night i'm going to spend looking over your pages and working on some homework | 03:26 |
| majoridiot | have at any of them, at your discretion | 03:26 |
| superm1 | k | 03:27 |
| superm1 | keescook, when you get back around, i've got patches in bzr for bug 99916, bug 96739, bug 103191, and bug 93341 i'd like you to take a look at | 03:28 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 99916 in mythtv "mythtv-database should better explain the mysql password for root" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/99916 | 03:28 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 96739 in mythtv "User should be told what the mythtv user account password is" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96739 | 03:28 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 103191 in mythtv "ubuntu-mythtv-frontend does not set defaults for media player applications" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103191 | 03:28 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 93341 in mythtv "mythtv should use ALSA by default" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93341 | 03:28 |
| superm1 | they're in revision 24. | 03:29 |
| superm1 | okay catch ya in a bit majoridiot | 03:29 |
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| superm1 | ok majoridiot, things have been uploaded to my repo at http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 if you'd be able to try the binaries. Note, you won't get the indication of the mysql password unless its a fresh install of the mythtv packages | 03:50 |
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| williammanda | hey superm1...is majoridiot coming back soon? | 04:41 |
| superm1 | williammanda, not sure, i just left for the last 20-30 minu | 04:41 |
| superm1 | and didnt realize he left until now | 04:41 |
| superm1 | he was gonna test out some changes in my package | 04:41 |
| williammanda | i updated my lircrc file for firefly...he got the old copy yesterday | 04:42 |
| superm1 | oh firefly does work with ati_usb? | 04:42 |
| williammanda | yes..very nice... | 04:45 |
| williammanda | lay in bed and point at the roof | 04:45 |
| williammanda | i want to use the remote for other programs... | 04:47 |
| williammanda | do i need to create a new lircrc file for every program I want to use the remote with? | 04:48 |
| williammanda | and do I need to put the lircrc file in the .xxxx subdirectory of the program under my user name? | 04:50 |
| williammanda | example home/william/.mplayer | 04:51 |
| williammanda | the lirc website confuses me...... | 04:52 |
| williammanda | it says I can create one lircrc file and place it in the /etc/lircrc directory...but there isn't one | 04:53 |
| williammanda | and if I choose to create mulitple lircrc files....they need to be in the home directory | 04:54 |
| williammanda | i moved the lircrc file for myth to my user directory and it didn't work | 04:54 |
| superm1 | you need to add more sections to your lircrc | 04:57 |
| superm1 | sorry i was afk for a few | 04:57 |
| superm1 | so mythtv is the only app afaik that uses its own lircrc | 04:57 |
| superm1 | everything else you put into ~/.lircrc | 04:58 |
| williammanda | i have tried the lircrc file(s) both ways....all in one file and separate files...neither works except for mythtv | 05:10 |
| williammanda | oh...are you saying..all other programs I want to control need to be in a lircrc file under ~.lircrc?file | 05:12 |
| superm1 | right | 05:12 |
| superm1 | in ~/.lircrc | 05:12 |
| williammanda | where is ~/.lircrc? | 05:12 |
| superm1 | ~/ :) | 05:13 |
| superm1 | ~ is your home directory | 05:13 |
| williammanda | :)....is that under my user name? | 05:13 |
| williammanda | ok ty | 05:13 |
| superm1 | yup, hopefully thats clearer then | 05:14 |
| williammanda | yes...ty...I'll try that | 05:14 |
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| williammanda | ok...i have created a subdirectory.../home/.lircrc | 05:41 |
| williammanda | i have a file called lircrc saved in /home/.lircrc | 05:42 |
| superm1 | williammanda, you mixed that up a bit | 05:47 |
| superm1 | lets say your username is bob | 05:47 |
| superm1 | you should be making a file | 05:47 |
| superm1 | called /home/bob/.lircrc | 05:47 |
| superm1 | and putting sections in that file | 05:48 |
| williammanda | sections being....mplayer, kaffeine, xine, etc....? | 05:49 |
| superm1 | right | 05:52 |
| superm1 | here let me do a short snippet of mine | 05:52 |
| superm1 | for an example | 05:52 |
| superm1 | ubotu, whats a !pastebin address | 05:52 |
| superm1 | !pastebin | 05:53 |
| ubotu | pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic) | 05:53 |
| superm1 | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14666/ | 05:53 |
| williammanda | ok ty | 05:56 |
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| superm1 | keescook, more good news: I nailed down bug 55827 a few minutes ago | 09:53 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 55827 in mythtv "Warning running mythtv-backend: "Authentication Rejected"" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55827 | 09:53 |
| superm1 | added it to the bzr branch. it was a lot easier then i thought | 09:53 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, you there? | 09:53 |
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| superm1 | gardengnome, ping | 06:18 |
| gardengnome | superm1: pong | 06:31 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, i figured out that bug about authentication | 06:33 |
| gardengnome | superm1: nice! | 06:33 |
| gardengnome | i know a few people who are going to love you for that | 06:33 |
| superm1 | bug: #55827 | 06:33 |
| superm1 | bug 55827 | 06:33 |
| ubotu | Malone bug 55827 in mythtv "Warning running mythtv-backend: "Authentication Rejected"" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55827 | 06:33 |
| superm1 | two env variables need to be unset | 06:34 |
| superm1 | during the init script | 06:34 |
| gardengnome | yay :) | 06:34 |
| superm1 | i found the solution by accident when i was comparing the results of a VM install, a headless install over ssh | 06:36 |
| gardengnome | that's really cool. thanks a lot! | 06:36 |
| superm1 | not a problem, this was bugging me too :) | 06:36 |
| superm1 | when keescook comes around later, i'm gonna poke around to get this and 4 other bug fixes i assembled the last few days in | 06:37 |
| keescook | superm1: awsome! I was out all weekend. I'll check that stuff tonight. great work! | 07:23 |
| superm1 | keescook, i'll be around until about 4 or 5 pm central time, and then back on after 10 pm central, so let me know if there is anything that doesnt make sense or look good then | 07:38 |
| keescook | superm1: you got it | 07:47 |
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| majoridiot | ping: williammanda | 10:05 |
| superm1 | oh majoridiot williammanda was looking for you last night | 10:05 |
| superm1 | regarding the firefly remote i believe | 10:05 |
| majoridiot | k. same here. lol | 10:06 |
| superm1 | williammanda wasnt sure about setting up a ~/.lircrc | 10:06 |
| superm1 | i pointed in the right direction afaik | 10:06 |
| majoridiot | great. ty. | 10:06 |
| === majoridiot wonders where his link to the log went | ||
| === majoridiot found it | ||
| majoridiot | the problem with reorganizing is remembering where you "organized" things to | 10:07 |
| superm1 | haha | 10:09 |
| superm1 | you should start using del.icio.us | 10:09 |
| superm1 | and tagging stuff | 10:09 |
| majoridiot | i'd lose the link. | 10:09 |
| superm1 | most likely you will associate the same words with a topic | 10:09 |
| gardengnome | i jsut put everything in my bookmarks | 10:11 |
| gardengnome | and i never look in there... | 10:11 |
| majoridiot | have you had any luck getting composite tv-out working well on an ati? | 10:12 |
| gardengnome | yes, but it was an ati rage 128 and it wasn't pretty... | 10:13 |
| superm1 | cant say i've ever tried - | 10:13 |
| superm1 | do the official ati releases have amdcccle? | 10:13 |
| majoridiot | i got it kinda working in clone mode on the last install... 640x480, horribly fuzzy desktop, but myth was watchable. | 10:13 |
| majoridiot | hm... haven't seen reference to that. | 10:14 |
| superm1 | well i thought it was introduced publicly in last months release | 10:14 |
| superm1 | it has a nice gui way of setting up multiple monitors and tv out and such | 10:14 |
| majoridiot | i found some info yesterday i'm going to try and work from... just wondering if i shouldn't throw the spare 5500fx in. | 10:15 |
| majoridiot | hm. that comes with the standard driver install? | 10:16 |
| gardengnome | heh | 10:17 |
| gardengnome | that's exactly what the ATI drivers needed. another control panel. | 10:17 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, well actually it appears no | 10:18 |
| superm1 | 8.34.8 is the latest in ubuntu repos | 10:18 |
| majoridiot | looking at the ati page again... | 10:18 |
| superm1 | i think the 8.35 series introduced that control panel | 10:18 |
| majoridiot | i saw no reference to that yesterday | 10:18 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, its actually a lot nicer then you'd think | 10:18 |
| superm1 | its fairly comparable to the nvidia-settings control panel | 10:19 |
| superm1 | thats available | 10:19 |
| gardengnome | right. i'm not saying it's bad. i'm just saying that those development cycles could have been dedicated to actual driver development :) | 10:19 |
| majoridiot | agrees. | 10:20 |
| gardengnome | ok, the display manager looks nice. | 10:20 |
| superm1 | well not to say the same developers that do driver development do the control panel | 10:20 |
| majoridiot | updated less OO. rebooting and then trying it. | 10:20 |
| superm1 | but i'm only defending ATI here in this respect because i'm still hoping they can get a release with AIGLX out the door this year :) | 10:21 |
| gardengnome | superm1: it's all about money ;) | 10:21 |
| superm1 | maybe just wishful thinking.... | 10:21 |
| superm1 | completely agreed though about it being about money. last year we saw all this amazing support added for laptop support | 10:22 |
| superm1 | hotkey switching | 10:22 |
| superm1 | power management | 10:22 |
| superm1 | and even a binary daemon for hotkey switching on thinkpads | 10:22 |
| superm1 | can you wonder what was announced one month after this? | 10:22 |
| gardengnome | well, power management is not that bad. but i've heard that the actual driver is horrible. | 10:23 |
| superm1 | Lenovo actively supports SuSE on their series of laptops | 10:23 |
| gardengnome | heh, thinkpads running linux? :) | 10:23 |
| superm1 | so i can imagine there was a flow of money thrown at ATI for that | 10:23 |
| gardengnome | yep | 10:23 |
| superm1 | the actual driver itself is horrible thoug | 10:23 |
| gardengnome | there's money in supporting linux, they just need to realize that. | 10:23 |
| superm1 | i've reported every bug i come across to the beta mailing list, and they get acknowledged, but fixes take ages | 10:23 |
| majoridiot | its-a 1100Kbps from the-a repo | 10:24 |
| gardengnome | AFAIK, they never were really good at driver development. their windows drivers sucked.. at least back then with the radeon 9800 ;) | 10:24 |
| superm1 | oh they still do suck in windows too from what i've heard | 10:25 |
| gardengnome | i'm running nvidia. it works on this box, but the binary blob makes me uncomfortable | 10:25 |
| superm1 | i've accepted having to use binary blobs for the moment - | 10:25 |
| majoridiot | superm1: VERY nice! | 10:26 |
| superm1 | it gets me pretty effects on my desktop, and power management on my laptop | 10:26 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, worked out of the box for you too eh ? :) | 10:26 |
| gardengnome | heh, of course. i'm too pragmatic to complain about working drivers ;) | 10:26 |
| majoridiot | only as far as the first PW popup | 10:26 |
| majoridiot | 1 popup total. | 10:27 |
| majoridiot | no errors. | 10:27 |
| majoridiot | running mythtv-setup... | 10:27 |
| superm1 | it should have gave you two popups | 10:27 |
| superm1 | one telling you about the password | 10:27 |
| superm1 | and one to run mythtv-setup | 10:27 |
| superm1 | if you already had a /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt, it wouldnt tell you about hte password though | 10:27 |
| majoridiot | yes... the first generic popup as well. | 10:27 |
| majoridiot | FEKKIN' BRILLIANT! | 10:30 |
| majoridiot | no errors... including QT nag. | 10:30 |
| superm1 | wonderful :) | 10:30 |
| === majoridiot would suggest only one small change | ||
| superm1 | and ALSA should be default now too | 10:30 |
| superm1 | whats that? | 10:30 |
| majoridiot | the wording for the pop-up to add to mythtv group... | 10:30 |
| majoridiot | i would clarify it a bit that this is the normal "sudo" password.. for complete dolts that might think they are adding a NEW password. | 10:31 |
| majoridiot | e.g.-- "Please enter your sudo password..", etc. | 10:31 |
| superm1 | oh you mean the zenity popup | 10:32 |
| majoridiot | yes | 10:32 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure i'll be able override that directly | 10:32 |
| superm1 | let me see | 10:32 |
| superm1 | Its currently "Please enter your password to add `whoami` to the mythtv group." | 10:33 |
| superm1 | so perhaps "Please enter your current login password to add `whoami` to the mythtv group." | 10:33 |
| majoridiot | or "... your sudo password..." | 10:33 |
| majoridiot | just so there is no confusion among us in the lowest common denominator. ;) | 10:34 |
| superm1 | i dont feel comfortable putting sudo password though - that feels like using sudo in the wrong context | 10:34 |
| majoridiot | true | 10:35 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, what do you think about that? | 10:36 |
| superm1 | needs rewording or no? | 10:36 |
| === majoridiot is wondering that | ||
| gardengnome | i'd favor "current login password" | 10:37 |
| gardengnome | or | 10:37 |
| gardengnome | "Please re-authenticate yourself by entering your current password" | 10:37 |
| majoridiot | current login pw works | 10:37 |
| majoridiot | better than sudo. yes. | 10:38 |
| gardengnome | beryl is... interesting. | 10:38 |
| superm1 | k i updated that | 10:39 |
| superm1 | to current login password | 10:39 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, any other qualms? | 10:39 |
| majoridiot | yes. | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | why does it not properly setup my tuners and channel lineup? | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | :P | 10:40 |
| superm1 | haha | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | no, man... it's absolutely brilliant! | 10:40 |
| superm1 | wonderful. | 10:40 |
| majoridiot | EXCELLENT job! | 10:40 |
| superm1 | thx | 10:40 |
| superm1 | keescook later on when you are taking a look at the packaging changes, i have binaries on http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1 (its a falcon repo, subrepositories are described on that site) | 10:40 |
| superm1 | those are the ones majoridiot was just trying | 10:41 |
| majoridiot | as an ubuntu mythtv user and supporter, i thank you. | 10:41 |
| superm1 | wonder if this will be enough for juski to take off that video he made from his site | 10:41 |
| superm1 | .. | 10:41 |
| majoridiot | video? | 10:41 |
| superm1 | http://www.mythtvtalk.com/juski/mythnoob.wmv | 10:42 |
| === majoridiot seriously hopes this is a parody | ||
| superm1 | either way it is a bit disturbing eh? | 10:43 |
| majoridiot | odd... i read disturbing... saw "retarded" flash in the captions and am now torn. | 10:44 |
| majoridiot | i would be mortified to think i was recorded doing that... let alone posting it on the web. | 10:45 |
| majoridiot | egads... the end is just... | 10:45 |
| superm1 | i really wonder who actually shot that | 10:46 |
| superm1 | if it was juski | 10:46 |
| superm1 | or someone else that just submitted it to him | 10:46 |
| majoridiot | explains a lot, tho. | 10:46 |
| majoridiot | as great as this new package is... and it is AWESOME... | 10:46 |
| majoridiot | i just know they'll find a way to bork it somehow. | 10:46 |
| superm1 | well i can only think of *one* way you can | 10:47 |
| superm1 | if you install it when you have no root password for mysql | 10:47 |
| superm1 | and then you setup a root password | 10:47 |
| superm1 | update the debconf in the package | 10:47 |
| superm1 | and then remove the root password again | 10:47 |
| superm1 | you cant set the debconf for the package to a blank password the second time around | 10:47 |
| majoridiot | considering a simple group addition stumped them, i think it's probably safe to assume that will never happend. | 10:48 |
| superm1 | well for the longest time no one (including myself) identified that the issue causing all these password problems was that | 10:48 |
| gardengnome | superm1, majoridiot: the kid in juski's video is known to the internet community as "angry german kid". he's getting annoyed over unreal tournament in this video - to amuse us. | 10:51 |
| majoridiot | ah. the the captions were parody. | 10:51 |
| gardengnome | superm1, majoridiot: it's supposed to make fun of all the people who demand too much (and also a call for help ;)) | 10:51 |
| superm1 | that makes much more sense here | 10:51 |
| gardengnome | majoridiot: of course! | 10:51 |
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| superm1 | gardengnome, i had no idea | 10:51 |
| gardengnome | heh | 10:51 |
| gardengnome | look him up on youtube. there are several remixes of that kid. | 10:52 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, i wasnt sure if to think this to be serious or have a serious connotation associated with, or an underlying message or what | 10:52 |
| majoridiot | i was hoping it was not meant to be ubuntu-specific... as RTFM is very rarely an answer in the forums or here. | 10:53 |
| gardengnome | superm1: it's a parody. of course, it also shows that he thinks something needs to be done about the mythtv database issue on ubuntu ;) | 10:54 |
| gardengnome | which you have already done | 10:54 |
| superm1 | then i've understood his underlying message:) | 10:55 |
| gardengnome | mind you, it also critizes the supporting community, i think | 10:55 |
| gardengnome | did you guys really think it was some poor german kid trying to install mythtv? | 10:55 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, not sure if that will be good though - i forgot i have a blue theme | 10:55 |
| superm1 | on my laptop | 10:55 |
| superm1 | lol | 10:55 |
| superm1 | you germans are pretty crazy...... | 10:55 |
| gardengnome | BTW, he logs in as "jenetik" to #mythtv-users. that was a reference to a complete.. dork. | 10:56 |
| gardengnome | superm1: heh | 10:56 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, juski does now? | 10:56 |
| gardengnome | superm1: sorry, what do you mean? "jenetik"? that's the kid in the video, so to speak | 10:57 |
| superm1 | oh | 10:57 |
| superm1 | i havent watched it in a while | 10:57 |
| majoridiot | superm1: thaz cool too... i grabbed a cap on install. :) | 10:57 |
| superm1 | sigh...http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/262662 | 11:02 |
| gardengnome | (beryl crashed my box. now i'm back to plain ol' KDE. :)) | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | Probably not. I don't think the package manager actually uses mythtv | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | in anger. | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | Ben | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | ??? | 11:04 |
| superm1 | yea exactly | 11:04 |
| superm1 | i dont respond on this mailing list typically | 11:04 |
| superm1 | but i have to | 11:04 |
| superm1 | in this case | 11:04 |
| majoridiot | jackasses. | 11:05 |
| gardengnome | superm1: keep it short, don't waste too much time - unless you want to ;) | 11:05 |
| majoridiot | superm1: confirmed alsa correctly configures on mythtv meta install and frontend install only | 11:05 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, this isn't the first i have heard of people accusing me of not using my own packages though | 11:06 |
| superm1 | i just wonder where that thought came from | 11:06 |
| gardengnome | probably because you don't show up much there | 11:06 |
| gardengnome | i wouldn't know | 11:06 |
| gardengnome | anyways, it's 11pm and i should study some more | 11:07 |
| superm1 | gardengnome, have a good evening. kick those finals butts :) | 11:07 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, ooh like the shiny new screenshot https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Live/Feisty/Update?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Upgrade.png | 11:11 |
| superm1 | looks nice :) | 11:11 |
| majoridiot | hehe | 11:11 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, also still need to move openssh server to the what next | 11:11 |
| majoridiot | ty | 11:11 |
| majoridiot | i studied with the finest. | 11:12 |
| majoridiot | move it from where? | 11:12 |
| superm1 | i see it on MythTV_Feisty_Backend_Desktop_O | 11:12 |
| majoridiot | yes | 11:12 |
| majoridiot | you said remove from frontend only pages. | 11:12 |
| majoridiot | but leave on backend. | 11:13 |
| superm1 | oh but thats a desktop page | 11:13 |
| superm1 | i was saying pull it from desktop pages all together wasnt i? | 11:13 |
| majoridiot | mayhaps what you meant... ;) | 11:14 |
| majoridiot | i'll move them for desktop as well. | 11:14 |
| majoridiot | (working on the lirc page atm) | 11:14 |
| superm1 | k | 11:14 |
| superm1 | if i catch any minor changes, like typos i'll just fix them k | 11:14 |
| majoridiot | VERY much appreciated. | 11:17 |
| majoridiot | :D | 11:17 |
| superm1 | i was thinking a little more with regard to the commenting out the bind-address thing | 11:18 |
| superm1 | following it should be a quick explanation of how to change your root password | 11:18 |
| superm1 | for mysql | 11:18 |
| === majoridiot cringes | ||
| superm1 | well there is a very very very easy way | 11:18 |
| superm1 | that i learned yesterday | 11:18 |
| superm1 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 | 11:18 |
| superm1 | followed by | 11:18 |
| superm1 | sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database (with the new packaging) | 11:19 |
| superm1 | so perhaps only on the backend only setups | 11:19 |
| superm1 | have that bind address comment | 11:19 |
| majoridiot | i would DEFINITELY prefer that be added to what next. | 11:19 |
| superm1 | and the root password changes | 11:19 |
| superm1 | and then move all three to what next for the others? | 11:19 |
| majoridiot | i can just envision nightmares having the mysql root changed... | 11:20 |
| majoridiot | until it can be added as an install option, i think we are better off adding it as a recommendation in "what next"... | 11:21 |
| williammanda | hey guys | 11:21 |
| majoridiot | to get around those who will find a way to botch it and never get it working to begin with | 11:21 |
| majoridiot | hola williammanda | 11:21 |
| williammanda | major...i have an updated lircrc file if you want it | 11:21 |
| superm1 | okay then at least pull the mysql 127.0.0.1 stuff out of the setups that dont need it i think. | 11:21 |
| majoridiot | williammanda: pls email it. i'm working on that right now. :) | 11:22 |
| williammanda | email pls | 11:23 |
| majoridiot | bind address out of everything but backend only setups? | 11:23 |
| superm1 | i think so | 11:23 |
| superm1 | its just another balance between security and convenience i guess | 11:23 |
| superm1 | what do you think? | 11:23 |
| majoridiot | honestly... | 11:24 |
| superm1 | leave it in? | 11:24 |
| majoridiot | i think the issue of mysql security is rather irrelevant for 99% of mythtv setups... | 11:24 |
| majoridiot | and those that would have an issue, know exactly what needs done. | 11:24 |
| superm1 | that is very true | 11:24 |
| majoridiot | my god... i've been hacked and they stole my favorite channel list! | 11:25 |
| === majoridiot snickers | ||
| superm1 | lol | 11:26 |
| === superm1 would be devastated | ||
| williammanda | major....email sent | 11:29 |
| majoridiot | ty :) | 11:29 |
| superm1 | majoridiot, perhaps some mentions about medibuntu in the mythdvd section. afaik, you need medibuntu debs installed in order to use anything other than perfect | 11:29 |
| superm1 | but i havent tried | 11:29 |
| majoridiot | i haven't even looked at that yet... i haven't used it. | 11:30 |
| majoridiot | i figure i'll flesh out the plugins as i add and configure them myself... unless someone else jumps in. | 11:30 |
| superm1 | i've caught a few other typos around the pages i've been fixing | 11:33 |
| superm1 | i'm not sure if your subscribed and will see them all? | 11:33 |
| majoridiot | great | 11:33 |
| majoridiot | i will see a lot of them... subscribed to most pages. | 11:33 |
| majoridiot | you know how hard it is to catch your own typos | 11:33 |
| superm1 | yea | 11:34 |
| superm1 | well FF 2.0 should catch a lot of them for you though | 11:34 |
| superm1 | you titled one of the pages Fesity too | 11:34 |
| superm1 | but that cant be fixed | 11:34 |
| majoridiot | LOL | 11:34 |
| majoridiot | which one? i'll just move it | 11:34 |
| superm1 | oh i forgot, | 11:35 |
| superm1 | i'll let you know if i come across it again | 11:35 |
| majoridiot | k | 11:35 |
| superm1 | oh and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/Fesity | 11:35 |
| superm1 | lol | 11:36 |
| superm1 | there it is | 11:36 |
| superm1 | i didnt even realized | 11:36 |
| superm1 | s/realized/realize | 11:36 |
| superm1 | before you move it | 11:36 |
| superm1 | make two pages | 11:36 |
| superm1 | because that has GUI stuff and is linked from the server pages | 11:36 |
| majoridiot | damn. | 11:36 |
| majoridiot | idiot. | 11:37 |
| majoridiot | LOL | 11:37 |
| superm1 | haha | 11:37 |
| williammanda | hey guys....can i ask a quick lirc question? | 11:42 |
| majoridiot | NO! | 11:43 |
| majoridiot | lol | 11:43 |
| superm1 | okay majoridiot i've got what i can looked at. i have to get home and ready for work | 11:43 |
| superm1 | i'll be back later tonite | 11:43 |
| majoridiot | thank you! | 11:43 |
| superm1 | catch ya later | 11:43 |
| majoridiot | ttyl | 11:43 |
| majoridiot | what's the Q, williammanda? | 11:43 |
| williammanda | what I have seen so far.....is that I can use the keyboard shortcuts to relate to the lircrc file correct? | 11:44 |
| majoridiot | corect | 11:44 |
| williammanda | ok | 11:45 |
| majoridiot | with two r's | 11:45 |
| williammanda | the prog name ie mplayer.... | 11:45 |
| williammanda | how do i know what is the correct name to use there? | 11:45 |
| williammanda | is it what you type in the console or what? | 11:46 |
| majoridiot | correct | 11:46 |
| williammanda | console? | 11:46 |
| majoridiot | or as identified by a ps or from gnome system monitor | 11:46 |
| williammanda | i use kde | 11:47 |
| williammanda | what would that be? | 11:47 |
| majoridiot | if you ps -ax it will show you what is running | 11:49 |
| majoridiot | that is the name you would associate | 11:49 |
| majoridiot | generally, it will be the same as the command you launch the app with. | 11:49 |
| williammanda | k | 11:50 |
| williammanda | what kinda confuses me is that mythtv is different.... | 11:51 |
| williammanda | ie prog=mythtv | 11:51 |
| williammanda | ps -ax gives me mythfrontend | 11:52 |
| williammanda | that is what you type in the console | 11:52 |
| majoridiot | interesting point | 11:53 |
| majoridiot | what are you trying to add functionality for? | 11:53 |
| williammanda | mplayer in kde | 11:54 |
| majoridiot | should just be mplayer | 11:54 |
| williammanda | k | 11:55 |
| williammanda | in looking at the system log..... | 11:55 |
| williammanda | it confirms that the lircrc is running.... | 11:55 |
| williammanda | says...accepted new client on /dev/lircd | 11:56 |
| majoridiot | ok | 11:56 |
| williammanda | the keyboard shortcut for pause is "p" | 11:56 |
| williammanda | i have that programmed.... | 11:56 |
| williammanda | but it isn't working.... | 11:56 |
| williammanda | prog=mplayer | 11:57 |
| williammanda | button=PAUSE | 11:57 |
| williammanda | config=p | 11:57 |
| williammanda | that is what I have | 11:57 |
| majoridiot | ok... | 11:58 |
| majoridiot | for other apps, i think it needs to be linked to the name of the action in the program... | 11:58 |
| majoridiot | e.g. congif="Pause" | 11:58 |
| majoridiot | config | 11:58 |
| williammanda | instead of the keyboard shortcut "p" | 11:59 |
| majoridiot | hope that helps | 12:02 |
| williammanda | is the lircrc case sensitive? | 12:05 |
| majoridiot | Yes | 12:05 |
| williammanda | ok....i know the remote buttons work.... | 12:06 |
| williammanda | that leaves me with the prog & config fields | 12:06 |
| williammanda | i'm trying to get away from finding out what works by chance | 12:08 |
| majoridiot | k | 12:08 |
| majoridiot | where is your lircrc file located? | 12:08 |
| williammanda | /home/william | 12:08 |
| williammanda | sorry | 12:08 |
| williammanda | /home/william/.lircrc | 12:09 |
| williammanda | that confused to start with....the way myth does it | 12:09 |
| majoridiot | with a symlink in /home/william/.mythtv that points to /home/william/.lircrc? | 12:09 |
| williammanda | confused me | 12:09 |
| williammanda | no.... | 12:10 |
| majoridiot | what is the result of: | 12:10 |
| williammanda | i have two files.....one in .mythtv and one in /home/william/.lircrc | 12:10 |
| majoridiot | ls -l /home/william/.mythtv | 12:10 |
| williammanda | its on another computer | 12:12 |
| williammanda | do u want to know permissions? | 12:12 |
| majoridiot | yes... for the lircrc file in .mythtv | 12:13 |
| williammanda | root for both | 12:13 |
| majoridiot | all the permissions, pls | 12:14 |
| williammanda | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root | 12:15 |
| majoridiot | k | 12:15 |
| majoridiot | and when you edit the lircrc... are you editing that one or ~/.lircrc ? | 12:15 |
| williammanda | /home/william/.lircrc | 12:16 |
| majoridiot | k | 12:16 |
| williammanda | not editing .mythtv/lircrc | 12:16 |
| majoridiot | do: | 12:16 |
| majoridiot | sudo rm ~/.mythtv/lircrc | 12:17 |
| majoridiot | then | 12:17 |
| majoridiot | ln -s ~/.mythtv/lircrc ~/.lircrc | 12:17 |
| majoridiot | what that does: | 12:18 |
| majoridiot | mythtv looks for an lircrc file in the .mythtv directory | 12:18 |
| majoridiot | so the ln command creates a symbolic link pointing to the .lircrc in you home dir | 12:18 |
| majoridiot | which is where lirc itself looks for it. | 12:19 |
| majoridiot | you need to restart the frontend for any changes to your lircrc to take effect | 12:20 |
| williammanda | frontend? mythfrontend? | 12:20 |
| majoridiot | yes | 12:21 |
| majoridiot | just exit and fire it back up | 12:21 |
| majoridiot | each time you change lircrc | 12:21 |
| williammanda | right....i have been restarting programs to test lircrc file | 12:21 |
| majoridiot | k | 12:21 |
| williammanda | so can I have more than one lircrc file or just one? | 12:22 |
| majoridiot | just keep the one | 12:22 |
| majoridiot | with entires for all of your programs in it. | 12:23 |
| williammanda | and that one file will be located at /home/william/.lircrc | 12:23 |
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